[03:25] <mssmss> hi
[03:25] <sbalneav> Hello
[03:27] <mssmss> anyone know if ltsp clients lose power, any processes that need to be cleaned up ?l
[03:28] <mssmss> we lost power in our lab yesterday and the clients and server went down and when powered back up ....the clients were extremely slow and would not boot up ...
[03:29] <mssmss> edubuntu 8.04.1, with updates done as of a couple of days ago,
[03:29] <mssmss> I checked the logs and saw dhcp  process vey slow .. discover/offer messages etc. at 15 second intervals
[03:30] <sbalneav> Did you reset the switch or hub that the thin clients and server are connected to?
[03:30] <sbalneav> It might be in a confused state.
[03:30] <mssmss> just a netgear switch .. powerd up along with the clients and server again
[03:32] <sbalneav> Yeah, I'd do a clean reboot of the server.
[03:32] <mssmss> so .. if a edubuntu server / ltsp clients power down unexpectedly, what should I clean up if the system restarts ? Or does the server start from a clean slate ?
[03:32] <mssmss> when power restores ..
[03:32] <sbalneav> Well, here's what I'd do.
[03:33] <sbalneav> Make sure all the clients stay off, do a clean power cycle on the switch, bring the server up cleanly, then power on the clients.
[03:33] <sbalneav> If you just let everything come on at the same time, depending on your network hardware, they may decide your switch is only 10 megabits, or something else.
[03:34] <sbalneav> And for $75 bucks, I'd buy a UPS and throw that on the server.
[03:35] <mssmss> we did have a UPS on site yesterday ... electricial was sic ...and the UPS came with USA scokets, my server had a UK/India power cord .. so could not hook it up ..
[03:35] <mssmss> I am in India ..so power problems are common..
[03:35] <mssmss> electrician was sick ...typos !
[03:35] <mssmss> Thanks Scott....
[03:36] <sbalneav> If power problems are common, you'll definitely want a UPS on things.
[03:37] <mssmss> yes .. I am hoping to get it hooked up today
[03:37] <mssmss> If just the clients lose power ... is it fine or are there some things that need cleaning up on the server ?
[03:43] <sbalneav> Well, there'll be some hung processes, for sure.
[03:43] <sbalneav> You'll need to pkill those.
[03:50] <mssmss> how do I identufy the processes ? grep ltsp ?
[03:52] <sbalneav> No
[03:52] <sbalneav> They're just the users processes, so any of the processes that are run by your regular users.
[03:54] <mssmss> ok..thanks
[22:28] <RamLinux> hi can make a Edubuntu LTSP Classroom Server in a vmware?
[23:10] <pixelated> hmm by topic i am guessing this is edubuntu dev channel, is there a users channel?
[23:12] <HedgeMage> pixelated: This is both.
[23:12] <pixelated> hmm ok
[23:12] <HedgeMage> We're not as big as main Ubuntu, we do it all in one place.
[23:12] <pixelated> ty
[23:14] <pixelated> one small happy family :')
[23:14] <RamLinux>  hi can make a Edubuntu LTSP Classroom Server in a vmware?
[23:15] <HedgeMage> RamLinux: I imagine that you can, but I've never tried and don't know what the performance hit would be.
[23:15] <RamLinux> just for test 1 terminal only maybe 2
[23:16] <HedgeMage> RamLinux: if you need to virtualize, you might consider Xen -- I have seen a server run on a Xen VM without any problems.
[23:16] <HedgeMage> RamLinux: try it and find out is all I can tell you, I don't have much experience with VMware
[23:16] <RamLinux> ok Xen its for win?
[23:17] <HedgeMage> Xen runs on the bottom, you'd put all the OSes on top of it
[23:17] <RamLinux> cool
[23:17] <HedgeMage> I don't really know anything about virtualization on top of windows, I have not run Win since the 90's
[23:17] <rockstar> RamLinux, Xen kinda runs like that.
[23:17] <rockstar> It's not really a HyperVisor though.
[23:18] <RamLinux> ok im documenting the procedure if works i post a vmware functionaly for tests proposals in rapidshare
[23:18] <rockstar> HedgeMage, yes, you can run an LTSP Classroom server in VMware.
[23:18] <HedgeMage> learn something new every day :)
[23:19] <rockstar> Er, that last message was to RamLinux and the first was to HedgeMage
[23:19] <rockstar> HedgeMage, XenServer, a proprietary Xen virtualization solution, is a hypervisor.
[23:20] <HedgeMage> np
[23:20] <RamLinux> houston i got my first problem
[23:20] <HedgeMage> rockstar: ahh, that may be what the organization I did Xen with was using.
[23:20] <RamLinux> There are no free interfaces for usage woth the LTSP Server
[23:21] <RamLinux> im running on my lap 2gb core2duo XP
[23:21] <rockstar> It's confusing, I know.  I did a lot of development on vm software, so I started to understand it a bit better.
[23:21] <HedgeMage> nifty :)
[23:21] <RamLinux> how i create the interfaces to this schema
[23:23] <RamLinux> rockstar any clue?
[23:23] <rockstar> RamLinux, what vm software?
[23:23] <RamLinux> vmware
[23:23] <RamLinux> winxp
[23:24] <RamLinux> Vmware Workstation ACE edition 6.0.2
[23:25] <rockstar> RamLinux, did you run the the vmware setup script?
[23:25] <rockstar> RamLinux, oh, WinXP?  I'm out.  I've never run VMware on XP.
[23:25] <RamLinux> lol
[23:25] <rockstar> (I haven't used windows in a VERY long time)
[23:25] <RamLinux> cool
[23:26] <RamLinux> ok, its for test proposals
[23:27] <RamLinux> cya guys im glad to know you all
[23:27] <RamLinux> im back to play Ut99