| Riddell | ah, such innocence | 00:01 |
|---|---|---|
| ScottK | apachelogger: http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117995653.html?categoryid=19&cs=1 | 03:17 |
| mars_ | hi | 06:57 |
| mars_ | it's the first time i don't upgrade my kubuntu before the release of a new stable version and now i'm wondering if something will popup for telling me that 8.10 is out and that i can upgrade? I think to people wich are not following kubuntu.org and wich would like to stay up to date. | 06:58 |
| yuriy | mars_: no. 8.04 to 8.10 is a huge change, so the developers decided against poping up something asking for people to upgrade | 07:07 |
| supertones | now that kdenlive has been released are there plans for a package? | 07:37 |
| supertones | here is the release announcement if anyone is interested http://www.kdenlive.org/content/2008-11-12-kdenlive-07-released | 07:41 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: one would assume an oil-producing city should have enough money these days ... though it's probably the salad kind of oil ;-) | 11:52 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: you should blog about cmake 2.6.2 | 12:10 |
| NCommander | Do you want cmake backported to hardy? | 12:11 |
| apachelogger | dunno, maybe Riddell already did | 12:12 |
| apachelogger | but in general that would be a good idea | 12:12 |
| smarter | apachelogger: http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/3750 ? :) | 12:12 |
| NCommander | Nope | 12:12 |
| NCommander | Not backported to hardy | 12:12 |
| NCommander | apachelogger, please file a backporting request | 12:12 |
| apachelogger | smarter: nice | 12:12 |
| apachelogger | Riddell++ | 12:12 |
| smarter | who's that pgquiles that advertise his scary PPA? https://edge.launchpad.net/~pgquiles/+archive | 12:13 |
| apachelogger | if only I knew | 12:13 |
| apachelogger | I need rgreening | 12:13 |
| apachelogger | gotta fix that menu issue | 12:14 |
| apachelogger | maybe I should just upload a testing package for now | 12:14 |
| Riddell | NCommander: `if you want to test thta cmake 2.6.2 works in hardy that would be lovely | 12:14 |
| * NCommander shall | 12:15 | |
| apachelogger | jdong: we still didn't talk about how many cookies it takes to make me a backport dude | 12:15 |
| * apachelogger notes that if the networkmanager plasmoid icon had any worse resolution one ould easily count the pixels | 12:16 | |
| Riddell | artwork is still in progress for that | 12:16 |
| apachelogger | yeah, I like the current state though, makes my desktop look geeky :D | 12:17 |
| apachelogger | kubotu: time rgreening | 12:17 |
| kubotu | America - St Johns - Thu Nov 13 08:47 NST | 12:17 |
| apachelogger | oh well, I better upload a testing package | 12:18 |
| Nightrose | smarter: he should be on irc as pgquiles__ right now | 12:22 |
| apachelogger | aahhh | 12:33 |
| apachelogger | rgreening already uploaded a revised patch | 12:33 |
| Riddell | he's good like that | 12:35 |
| apachelogger | I like my versoin better though, it's finer cpp :P | 12:36 |
| * apachelogger merges | 12:36 | |
| apachelogger | Riddell: I find the menu spec a bit weird ... seems only half thought through | 12:38 |
| Riddell | for some reason the case of different desktops having different .menu files was never in it originally and was only added when I complained later | 12:39 |
| apachelogger | IMHO it shouldn't be that way. applications.menu should be regulating the raw menu structure and special desktop files should only care about specifing their specific stuff | 12:41 |
| apachelogger | using the everyDE-gets-its-own-applications.menu-file approach you can technically end up with changing menu structure depending on where you run an application | 12:42 |
| apachelogger | in a KDE environment it would use the kde strucutre, in a GNOME environment with set env var chance is good that kbuildsycoca will be invoked and you get a different menu structure | 12:43 |
| apachelogger | in the openwith dialog for example | 12:43 |
| apachelogger | rgreening: yo | 12:51 |
| rgreening | apachelogger: o/ | 12:52 |
| apachelogger | rgreening: since one of my 5 browser sessions decided to reposte my comment I didn't see your patch, which meant first thing I did today was creating a patch myself, I now merged my approach with yours and upload to experimental right now | 12:53 |
| rgreening | lol | 12:53 |
| apachelogger | rgreening: http://paste.ubuntu.com/71347/ | 12:54 |
| rgreening | I was just going to test my patch (I have built it local on my system) | 12:54 |
| apachelogger | seems to be working | 12:54 |
| apachelogger | at least that is what strace says | 12:55 |
| apachelogger | rgreening: btw, you don't need brackets for a one-line body | 12:55 |
| apachelogger | makes the if look better ;-) | 12:55 |
| rgreening | It's all personal style :) | 12:56 |
| * apachelogger just hopes that he didn't break build when merging | 12:56 | |
| apachelogger | rgreening: ok, let me use the other reason, not using brackets decreases the diff size and thus is preferable :P | 12:56 |
| rgreening | lol | 12:57 |
| rgreening | 2 char | 12:57 |
| apachelogger | that sums up | 12:57 |
| apachelogger | anyway | 12:57 |
| apachelogger | upload finished | 12:57 |
| apachelogger | rgreening: btw, better suggestions how to solve this upstream? | 12:59 |
| rgreening | apachelogger: which PPA? kubuntu-members-kde4? | 12:59 |
| apachelogger | experimental | 12:59 |
| rgreening | I don't remember that one... | 12:59 |
| * rgreening searches | 12:59 | |
| apachelogger | https://edge.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-experimental/+archive | 13:00 |
| apachelogger | rgreening: I think forcing a value upon the prefix upstream makes most sense | 13:00 |
| * rgreening stops searching :) | 13:00 | |
| apachelogger | make the prefix a cmake var and install the application.menu accordingly... force a value upon the prefix var | 13:01 |
| rgreening | apachelogger: Hmm... maybe... | 13:01 |
| apachelogger | that way KDE doesn't need to patched for that stuff anymore and still stays 100% compatible with the somewhat weird spec | 13:02 |
| apachelogger | rgreening: I was ranting about it just before you joined ;-) | 13:02 |
| rgreening | ah... yeah, forgot to leave my session open so I could catch up .. hehe | 13:03 |
| apachelogger | rgreening: http://paste.ubuntu.com/71351/ | 13:04 |
| rgreening | yeah. I agree | 13:05 |
| rgreening | Ideally, if the spec forced the DE's to implement the prefix scheme for DE specific menu's and no prefix for 3rd party stuff, rather than let different DE's collide. | 13:11 |
| apachelogger | well | 13:13 |
| apachelogger | either the spec should find a way to properly define the original idea of having a common applications.menu for all DEs, which eventually brings new problems to be considered in the spec | 13:14 |
| apachelogger | or like you said force different menus in general | 13:14 |
| apachelogger | though I think the former is to be prefered, since the .menus from KDE and GNOME are pretty much the same considering the raw structure | 13:15 |
| supertones | rgreening: i remember you once saying kdenlive-kde4 was of interest to you...They finally released a final version of 0.7 any chance of a package for say experimental? | 13:16 |
| apachelogger | supertones: first jaunty, then experimental I'd say | 13:16 |
| supertones | k | 13:16 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: the cmake hardy upload you did to experimental was contributing to the PPA build loop of death, I now removed the package | 13:19 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: I guess the intrepid one can be removed as well now that it is in backports? | 13:20 |
| Riddell | oops | 13:21 |
| Riddell | yes it can go | 13:21 |
| Riddell | well, at some point we'll want PPA packages that use 2.6.2 | 13:21 |
| Riddell | does that mean 2.6.2 doesn't work in hardy? | 13:21 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: Missing dependencies: debhelper (>= 6.0.7~) | 13:22 |
| * apachelogger tries to remember where we wanted to stuff 4.2-pre-stable-releases in | 13:23 | |
| apachelogger | prolly experimental, so leaving cmake around makes sense :) | 13:23 |
| Riddell | we wanted it in kubuntu-members-kde4, but that's scuppered by us using that for 4.1.3 and not -updates | 13:24 |
| rgreening | supertones: Yeah, I gave it a quick go with the beta a while back, but it needs some newer packages not in the repos. So we need to package those first. Jaunty -> Intripid will def be the path in that case. | 13:25 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: I think we should only move it to members-kde4 once 4.2.0 is out | 13:26 |
| apachelogger | that way we can keep application updates in members-kde4 | 13:26 |
| apachelogger | e.g. amarok-kde4 | 13:26 |
| Riddell | right | 13:27 |
| NCommander | Need any help packaging 4.1.3? | 13:27 |
| Riddell | keep it in -experimental until the .0 | 13:27 |
| Riddell | NCommander: 4.1.3 is all packaged, it just needs us to persuade $powers that it can go into -updates | 13:28 |
| NCommander | ah | 13:28 |
| NCommander | What's a SMALL package that uses cmake to build? | 13:28 |
| Riddell | any idea what dh_ script install debian/copyright? | 13:28 |
| NCommander | builddeb I think | 13:28 |
| a|wen | Riddell: dh_installdocs IIRC | 13:29 |
| Riddell | NCommander: http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=opengtl uses cmake, you can revu it if you like :) | 13:29 |
| Riddell | a|wen: that seems to fix it, thanks | 13:30 |
| * NCommander whacks Riddell | 13:30 | |
| Riddell | I wonder why dh_make gives me a template which doesn't use that | 13:30 |
| NCommander | Riddell, no ack until the lintian errors disappear :-) | 13:30 |
| a|wen | yeah, that sounds weird | 13:31 |
| NCommander | Riddell, Backports ACK on cmake 2.6.2 for Hardy | 13:36 |
| Riddell | NCommander: what about the issue apachelogger said earlier? Missing dependencies: debhelper (>= 6.0.7~) | 13:37 |
| apachelogger | maybe we have >= 6.0.7 in backports | 13:37 |
| apachelogger | PPAs only use -updates | 13:37 |
| apachelogger | Package: debhelper (7.0.13ubuntu1~hardy1) | 13:38 |
| apachelogger | yus | 13:38 |
| Riddell | so we do | 13:38 |
| Riddell | ok, backporting | 13:38 |
| Riddell | NCommander: what's your LP username? | 13:38 |
| NCommander | Riddell, sonicmctails | 13:38 |
| NCommander | Riddell, we backported debhelper 7 <g> | 13:38 |
| * NCommander is very proud of himself for that little magic trick | 13:39 | |
| Riddell | does anyone use debhelper 7? | 13:39 |
| NCommander | You'd be disturbed | 13:40 |
| NCommander | Its why I actually had to fight to get that backported | 13:41 |
| NCommander | But we've yet to break anything | 13:41 |
| NCommander | woo, 95 uploads | 13:43 |
| apachelogger | bug #271516 | 13:44 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 271516 in ubuntu "[needs-packaging] KRadioRipper" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/271516 | 13:44 |
| NCommander | apachelogger, care to REVU the packaging ;-)? | 13:48 |
| apachelogger | NCommander: which one? | 13:48 |
| NCommander | kradioripper | 13:48 |
| apachelogger | at it right now | 13:48 |
| apachelogger | I did already 3 times anyway :P | 13:48 |
| NCommander | When you need the second ACK, I'll review | 13:54 |
| apachelogger | NCommander: you could review monkeystudio | 13:58 |
| apachelogger | jaunty is the thrid targeted cycle to get it in ;-) | 13:58 |
| NCommander | apachelogger, fixing GNOME ATM :-) | 13:58 |
| apachelogger | NCommander: ok, I'll tell you again in 5 years :P | 13:58 |
| NCommander | apachelogger, I'll look at it in 20 minutes | 13:59 |
| seele | so.. status on kubuntu meeting? | 14:01 |
| * NCommander is for | 14:02 | |
| apachelogger | seele: tuesday | 14:02 |
| * apachelogger will write an announcement when he is home | 14:03 | |
| apachelogger | seele: you (KC) will have to do the voting about Arby's application via mail, or postpone to the post-UDS meeting | 14:04 |
| seele | apachelogger: what time on tuesday? | 14:04 |
| apachelogger | 7 UTC I think | 14:04 |
| seele | 2am EST? | 14:05 |
| seele | -5 right? | 14:05 |
| seele | or are we -4 now | 14:05 |
| apachelogger | http://doodle.com/participation.html?pollId=tvt9bb3fvtbqda8v | 14:06 |
| apachelogger | 6th slot on tuesday it is | 14:06 |
| seele | oh.. you mean 14:00 :P | 14:07 |
| apachelogger | that is very possible indeed | 14:07 |
| apachelogger | 19 UTC | 14:07 |
| apachelogger | <3 UTC | 14:07 |
| Riddell | NCommander: new http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=opengtl up, lintian 0 bytes :) | 14:08 |
| seele | yeah, i've got a meeting at the time.. oh well | 14:08 |
| apachelogger | seele: maybe we can even discuss for 3 hours straight, then yuriy could do his vote ;-) | 14:08 |
| NCommander | Riddell, no watch file | 14:08 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: no manpages | 14:08 |
| Riddell | can't say I've ever used watch files | 14:09 |
| Riddell | http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=libspnav needs a revu too | 14:09 |
| apachelogger | however, I don't know if the poor tools even need manpages, caue I can't compile it | 14:09 |
| * apachelogger stars crying | 14:09 | |
| rgreening | apachelogger: kdelibs buiult in experimental | 14:10 |
| rgreening | apachelogger: or just about.. | 14:10 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: is llvm (>= 2.3-1~exp0) not yet in jaunty? | 14:13 |
| seele | apachelogger: did you set the meeting yet? i might be able to do 20:00UTC | 14:14 |
| seele | (or be by soon after starting) | 14:14 |
| apachelogger | seele: nope, though starting at 20UTC should be possible | 14:16 |
| apachelogger | jtechidna and rgreening would only be around for an hour though | 14:16 |
| rgreening | le t me check the time... I may be able to make myself available... | 14:17 |
| jtechidna | bug 297659 | 14:19 |
| jtechidna | won't fix? | 14:19 |
| apachelogger | Nightrose: tell your bf to drop his custom statistics icon and use view-statistics instead | 14:19 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 297659 in ubuntu "kubuntu-desktop + splashy" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/297659 | 14:19 |
| === jtechidna is now known as JontheEchidna | ||
| apachelogger | theming statistics is impossible because it breaks the theme | 14:19 |
| JontheEchidna | actually it doesn't even depend on it in the first place | 14:20 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: opengtl refuses to build here | 14:20 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: it does | 14:22 |
| apachelogger | through kubuntu-artwork-usplash IIRC | 14:22 |
| JontheEchidna | actually it's direct according to apt-cache show | 14:23 |
| JontheEchidna | though if you uninstalled those you would have to uninstall kubuntu-desktop anyway | 14:23 |
| apachelogger | anyway | 14:24 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: ubuntu-desktop probably depends on their usplash theme | 14:24 |
| apachelogger | so there should be a bug against it as well | 14:24 |
| apachelogger | anyway | 14:24 |
| * apachelogger forgot what he wanted to say all along | 14:25 | |
| JontheEchidna | ok, so since the theme itself is in default-settings default-settings should depend on usplash? | 14:25 |
| rgreening | apachelogger: If 20UTC is == 5:30PM (GMT -3:30 here), then I can do it. | 14:25 |
| apachelogger | rgreening: 7th slot @ doodle | 14:26 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: kubuntu-artwork-usplash is a binary package of kds | 14:26 |
| apachelogger | ah! | 14:26 |
| * apachelogger remembers his opinion again | 14:26 | |
| JontheEchidna | so kubuntu-artwork-usplash should do the depending | 14:26 |
| NCommander | apachelogger, what package needed review? | 14:26 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: won't fix, once you change the default splash you don't have a common kubuntu-desktop in the natural meaning anymore | 14:26 |
| apachelogger | NCommander: monkeystudio | 14:26 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: the only sensible solution for this would be to create a kubuntu theme for splashy then kubuntu-desktop can depend on kubuntu-artwork-upslash|kubuntu-artwork-splashy | 14:27 |
| rgreening | apachelogger: you are correct 4:30NST (I forgot we are off NDT now). So, yeah... I can do that. | 14:27 |
| apachelogger | also, I have no clue what splashy is and why one would want ot use this | 14:27 |
| apachelogger | rgreening: for how long? | 14:28 |
| NCommander | apachelogger, why haven't you plus 1ed it? | 14:28 |
| apachelogger | NCommander: because I didn't look at it yet | 14:28 |
| NCommander | ok | 14:28 |
| apachelogger | that package is a biatch to review | 14:28 |
| rgreening | apachelogger: as long as needed. I had a class, but it's cancelled. So, I'm free | 14:28 |
| apachelogger | rgreening: perfect | 14:29 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: I supose you are only one hour around? | 14:29 |
| NCommander | apachelogger, my inital review is good | 14:29 |
| NCommander | I'll test build and do a more indept REVU <g> | 14:29 |
| JontheEchidna | yeah, I'm really supposed to be doing homework at 20 UTC | 14:29 |
| JontheEchidna | or, one hour past that | 14:30 |
| apachelogger | okies | 14:31 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: you don't have any say on the bzr thing anyway :P | 14:31 |
| JontheEchidna | :P | 14:32 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: do you have some opinion on it? | 14:32 |
| JontheEchidna | what exactly about bzr is on the agenda? | 14:32 |
| apachelogger | moving the packaging of all KDE core packages to bzr | 14:32 |
| JontheEchidna | sounds good to me | 14:33 |
| JontheEchidna | that way nobody doing packaging has any excuse for not using batscripts | 14:33 |
| JontheEchidna | :D | 14:33 |
| apachelogger | lol | 14:33 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: why did opengtl refuse to build? llvm deb at kubuntu.org/~jriddell/tmp/ | 14:38 |
| NCommander | apachelogger, monkeystudio looks good so far | 14:41 |
| NCommander | Lintian src/bin clean, builds in jaunty chroot, and installs | 14:42 |
| DaSkreech | emonkey studio ? | 14:42 |
| apachelogger | NCommander: is the source in sensible condition? I had quite some arguments with upstream about proper source distribution | 14:43 |
| NCommander | apachelogger, seems so, but I can't ACK | 14:43 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=libspnav | 14:43 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: and it FTBFS | 14:43 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: http://paste.ubuntu.com/71395/ | 14:44 |
| DaSkreech | Hobbsee: Hiya! | 14:47 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: builds with libx11-dev and looks good otherwise | 14:48 |
| apachelogger | NCommander: why can't you ACK? | 14:48 |
| NCommander | apachelogger, if you have it installed, try making a new project | 14:49 |
| NCommander | Doesn't work, no templates installed | 14:49 |
| apachelogger | oh my | 14:49 |
| NCommander | yeah | 14:49 |
| apachelogger | rgreening: did you give the new kde4libs a testdrive yet? | 14:50 |
| apachelogger | seems to work here | 14:50 |
| ScottK | So other than not working, the package is fine? | 14:50 |
| Riddell | http://arm.com/news/23761.html a whole new arch for NCommander to fix problems on :) | 14:50 |
| NCommander | Yup, I saw | 14:51 |
| * NCommander expected it | 14:51 | |
| apachelogger | the n810 uses arm, doesn't it? :P | 14:51 |
| Riddell | yes | 14:51 |
| NCommander | Riddell, do me a favor and accept svk into proposed | 14:51 |
| NCommander | Yup | 14:52 |
| NCommander | to apachelogger | 14:52 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: why optional? spnav doesn't seem like something you'd want installed unless you know what it is | 14:54 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: good point.. though, why is there no lib? | 14:57 |
| apachelogger | ahhhh | 14:58 |
| Riddell | it's just a static library | 14:58 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: that is the SDK isn't it? | 14:59 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: what? | 15:00 |
| apachelogger | the package | 15:00 |
| apachelogger | anyway | 15:01 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: that description is confusing | 15:01 |
| apachelogger | is it a driver, is it a SDK, is it a project, is it a driver, SDK and project in that single -dev package? | 15:02 |
| * apachelogger is using that | 15:02 | |
| Riddell | all of them | 15:02 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: okies, despite the fact that I have no clue what the use case for this package would be at all, I agree with the extra priority | 15:03 |
| Riddell | use case is koffice2 wants it | 15:03 |
| rgreening | apachelogger: just updating now... | 15:03 |
| apachelogger | ohhh | 15:04 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: add the missing build-dep and you get an ACK | 15:04 |
| apachelogger | rgreening: you might want to write a test case as you are doing this, we will need one for the SRU | 15:05 |
| apachelogger | something like "install wine, download itunes, install itunes with wine, check kde menu" | 15:06 |
| Riddell | new version uploaded to revu | 15:06 |
| rgreening | apachelogger: k. will do.. | 15:07 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: acked an archived | 15:10 |
| Riddell | yay, I am a packager now! | 15:10 |
| DaSkreech | \o/ | 15:10 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=spavenavd appearing in a minute | 15:14 |
| rgreening | apachelogger: test case added to bug 297195 | 15:40 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 297195 in kdebase-workspace "Gnome/KDE applications.menu collision resolution breaks searching in applications-merged dir" [High,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/297195 | 15:40 |
| Riddell | rgreening: don't let pino make you feel bad, that change havn't been uploaded to debian yet, it's only in their svn | 16:09 |
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| DaSkreech | Where are the docs for landscape? | 16:12 |
| rgreening | Riddell: lol. nah, I can see he's an interesting character, so `cat /dev/null > comments` is my friend :) | 16:13 |
| Riddell | he's lovely (most of the time :) | 16:14 |
| Riddell | DaSkreech: you'd need to pay Canonical to get them | 16:14 |
| DaSkreech | Riddell: So how do I append ot the MOTD ? | 16:15 |
| Riddell | echo foo >> /etc/motd ? | 16:15 |
| rgreening | we don't have am2cmake anywhere? dam... was going to try and start looking at porting KlamAv... | 16:17 |
| rgreening | nm.. got if from kdesdk src... | 16:18 |
| ScottK | DaSkreech: Ask kirkland. He put that together. | 16:19 |
| DaSkreech | :-* | 16:30 |
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| === vorian is now known as stevie | ||
| un | is there anything i can do without having kdesvn compiled? artwork needed? bug reportin' needed? | 17:03 |
| un | n/m i think i'll install arch, and compile kdesvn then code... | 17:03 |
| smarter | he would have learned about kde-nightly if he had stayed 2 more minutes :) | 17:06 |
| rgreening | Riddell: for Gnome, they have a software-properties program like our kde version, and it installs a .desktop file to the users menu. should we add a desktop file as well? | 17:06 |
| Riddell | I don't see a reason for having that | 17:07 |
| Riddell | the package manager is the right place to edit package sources | 17:07 |
| rgreening | I suppose. Ok. | 17:08 |
| rgreening | Riddell: what can I work on next? Got anything my size :) | 17:09 |
| Riddell | lots of merges to be done | 17:09 |
| Riddell | k3b, konversation if you know KDE 3 packaging | 17:09 |
| Riddell | take your pick from merges.ubuntu.com | 17:10 |
| rgreening | Ok, I'll have a peek. | 17:10 |
| apachelogger | \o/ | 17:12 |
| rgreening | Riddell: I'll take konversation and try it. Are these recorded anywhere to prevent dup effort? | 17:12 |
| DaSkreech | When is k3b shipping for KDE4? | 17:12 |
| sebas | I understand k3b/kde4 will be ready soon | 17:13 |
| sebas | Probably soon enough for Jaunty | 17:13 |
| sebas | In fact, I hope Amarok, Digikam *and* k3b will make it | 17:13 |
| apachelogger | somehow people say that all the time :P | 17:14 |
| sebas | I'm running digikam4 for some time already, really only minor bugs left | 17:14 |
| sebas | And k3b ... well it starts and looks OK. Didn't try to burn yet | 17:14 |
| apachelogger | sebas: last time I tried it (which was about half a year ago) it also started, but burning ended in an epic fail | 17:15 |
| sebas | Reportedly, it works now | 17:15 |
| sebas | But yeah ... see > believe | 17:16 |
| Riddell | rgreening: no they're not recorded, just ping the channel I guess top stop overlap | 17:16 |
| apachelogger | I guess we should try to accumulate a lot of feedback | 17:16 |
| * sebas tries to get networkmanager plasma applet done in time for Jaunty :) | 17:17 | |
| apachelogger | every issue that can be fixed before jaunty makes me 0.0319% happier | 17:17 |
| apachelogger | sebas: _looking_ good already :) | 17:17 |
| sebas | yeah, we only need to get it to actually work :> | 17:18 |
| Riddell | details.. | 17:18 |
| apachelogger | *nod* | 17:18 |
| apachelogger | you have to see it this way: knetworkmanager is looking bad and not working | 17:18 |
| apachelogger | so in a way the plasmoid is already better ;-) | 17:18 |
| sebas | It's a bit like a supermodel, often the looks are enough to make it a good experience, she doesn't need to actually work ;) | 17:19 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: I think revu ate your spavenavd | 17:21 |
| Riddell | exists here http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=spacenavd | 17:22 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: That's Soyuz that eats uploads. | 17:22 |
| Riddell | helps if I don't typo | 17:22 |
| DaSkreech | apachelogger: How happy are you? | 17:23 |
| apachelogger | DaSkreech: -1290 | 17:25 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: yeah, I was wondering if revu also started doing that | 17:25 |
| yuriy | apachelogger: knetworkmanager not working? | 17:26 |
| ScottK | It's actually much better than it used to be. | 17:26 |
| apachelogger | still too far away from perfect IMHO | 17:27 |
| yuriy | I have an issue with it crashing NetworkManager when trying to connect to a WPA2 network. I've run into this on 2 machines now, but I can't find a bug report on it, so I guess I'll try it again tonight and collect the logs and report | 17:27 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: all the comments in your rules files make them pretty messed up alright :P | 17:36 |
| Riddell | make what messed up? | 17:37 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: the rules file | 17:38 |
| apachelogger | I am afraid my eyes might start bleeding from reading them | 17:38 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: copyright is wrong, license is gpl3+, not BSD | 17:38 |
| Riddell | it's well documented | 17:38 |
| apachelogger | #dh_installmenu | 17:39 |
| apachelogger | #dh_installdebconf | 17:39 |
| apachelogger | #dh_installlogrotate | 17:39 |
| apachelogger | .... | 17:39 |
| apachelogger | is not very good documentation though | 17:39 |
| apachelogger | # Add here commands to compile the package. | 17:40 |
| apachelogger | $(MAKE) | 17:40 |
| apachelogger | is close to redundancy IMHO | 17:40 |
| * apachelogger fiddles with his pbuilder | 17:41 | |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: how about a hook that adds a local dir to the sources.list? | 17:43 |
| apachelogger | certainly would improve the stack building experience | 17:43 |
| === stevie is now known as vorian | ||
| DaSkreech | Does a PDF printer ship by default in KDE4? | 17:56 |
| Riddell | does for Qt apps | 18:01 |
| DaSkreech | Can't print from Okular :( | 18:02 |
| DaSkreech | Well specifically when I have a PDF open | 18:03 |
| Riddell | umm | 18:04 |
| DaSkreech | I know I sound retarded | 18:04 |
| Riddell | I'm sure you have a perfectly rational explanation | 18:04 |
| DaSkreech | I'm trying to get this massive PDF file split into smaller files that I can carry around with memory errors everytime I open it to read | 18:04 |
| DaSkreech | So I want to print the first 100 pages as a PDF then when I'm finished reading that then print another hundred | 18:05 |
| DaSkreech | Instead of lugging around a file I can only open on a full blown PC | 18:05 |
| Riddell | pdfedit? | 18:05 |
| DaSkreech | wouldn't being able to print a PDF from a PDF be easier? :) | 18:07 |
| DaSkreech | why would you put in extra code to take out functionality? | 18:07 |
| rgreening | hmm... print preview in okular takes 100% cpu... | 18:08 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: spnavd.c:50:22: error: X11/Xlib.h: No such file or directory | 18:08 |
| apachelogger | spnavd.c:51:23: error: X11/Xutil.h: No such file or directory | 18:08 |
| apachelogger | rgreening: don't patch it, pino will eat you :P | 18:08 |
| rgreening | lol | 18:08 |
| apachelogger | seriously, pino gets all grumpy when someone is patching around in okular | 18:09 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: doh | 18:09 |
| rgreening | his pet project | 18:09 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: builds with libx11-dev as well | 18:09 |
| apachelogger | rgreening: eating people? | 18:10 |
| rgreening | haha | 18:10 |
| rgreening | Riddell: no Print to PDF option in okular (on a fresh install of Intrepid). Which I assume is due to no default PDF printer being defined anywhere | 18:13 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: W: spacenavd: binary-without-manpage usr/bin/spacenavd | 18:13 |
| apachelogger | W: spacenavd: binary-without-manpage usr/bin/spnavd_ctl | 18:13 |
| apachelogger | W: spacenavd: missing-depends-line | 18:13 |
| rgreening | DaSkreech: ^ | 18:13 |
| DaSkreech | rgreening: try print from Konqueror | 18:13 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: I am going to ignore the manpage stuff, but the empty depends line appears wrongish | 18:13 |
| rgreening | DaSkreech: ah.. hmmm.. ok, the option is in konq but not in okular. | 18:14 |
| DaSkreech | rgreening: are you looking at a PDF? | 18:15 |
| rgreening | DaSkreech: ya | 18:15 |
| DaSkreech | rgreening: open a text file or jpeg | 18:16 |
| Riddell | NCommander: accepted svk | 18:16 |
| NCommander | \o/ | 18:16 |
| Riddell | add needs-verification tag to bug and ask for testers | 18:17 |
| NCommander | I'll test it | 18:17 |
| DaSkreech | hi NCommander | 18:17 |
| NCommander | actually, I need to wait for it to build | 18:17 |
| NCommander | Hi DaSkreech | 18:17 |
| rgreening | DaSkreech: yeah, only gives the option if not already a PDF | 18:17 |
| rgreening | DaSkreech: bug or feature :) | 18:18 |
| * DaSkreech wants to print a PDF to a PDF :-( | 18:18 | |
| rgreening | DaSkreech: convert PDF to odt and then back... (not ideal) | 18:18 |
| * DaSkreech throttles hismelf on the floor | 18:19 | |
| apachelogger | hm | 18:19 |
| apachelogger | PDF -> PNG -> OCR software -> DOC -> ODT -> PDF | 18:19 |
| rgreening | haha | 18:19 |
| apachelogger | you could do that on 6 operatingsystems as well | 18:20 |
| apachelogger | DaSkreech: report a bug at http://bugs.kde.org, for now you probably should try pdfedit | 18:20 |
| DaSkreech | right-o | 18:21 |
| apachelogger | "hello. my name is Q" | 18:24 |
| apachelogger | I like that dude | 18:24 |
| Riddell | are you watching Star Trek pilots? | 18:24 |
| vorian | Q rules | 18:26 |
| * NCommander perfers R | 18:26 | |
| Riddell | either that or James Bond | 18:28 |
| * Riddell goes to see James Bond shortly | 18:28 | |
| vorian | the new one? | 18:28 |
| apachelogger | stark trek pilots \o/ | 18:28 |
| vorian | it's terrible :/ | 18:28 |
| apachelogger | hm | 18:28 |
| apachelogger | as if anyone watches a bond movie for the actual movie :P | 18:29 |
| DaSkreech | There is a new Bond Girl out? | 18:29 |
| vorian | yes | 18:32 |
| apachelogger | the dearest austrian pop radio said there are actually 2 | 18:32 |
| * apachelogger is rofl | 18:35 | |
| apachelogger | q++ | 18:35 |
| seele | the James Bond movie doesn't come out until tomorrow for some of us | 18:50 |
| * seele is going tomorrow night whee | 18:50 | |
| DaSkreech | Heehee | 18:50 |
| DaSkreech | Riddell: how about having okular suggest cups-pdf ? | 18:52 |
| Riddell | DaSkreech: better to file a bug on okular | 18:59 |
| vorian | nixternal: you are a pinko commie | 18:59 |
| vorian | :P | 19:00 |
| Riddell | ? | 19:04 |
| DaSkreech | Riddell: never mind cups-pdf doesn't work :-P | 19:06 |
| DaSkreech | apachelogger: Umm PDFedit is a page editor | 19:15 |
| DaSkreech | apachelogger: Evince fixed it | 19:38 |
| JontheEchidna | apachelogger: would be handy | 19:47 |
| aparedes | Riddell: hi, any new thing or old thing i can help with? | 19:50 |
| DaSkreech | KDe 3.5.10 needs packaging | 19:53 |
| JontheEchidna | I'm pretty sure that every module that doesn't already have a KDE4 version is already at 3.5.10 | 19:56 |
| JontheEchidna | unless you're joking? :P | 19:57 |
| === milian_ is now known as milian | ||
| DaSkreech | :-) | 20:00 |
| DaSkreech | We have pearson in any case | 20:00 |
| apachelogger | 3.5.10? | 20:02 |
| apachelogger | seriously | 20:02 |
| apachelogger | what is so bad about KDE 2?!?! | 20:02 |
| jjesse | apachelogger: i think i just saw that question on kubuntu-users | 20:02 |
| apachelogger | I might have underestimated the kubuntu-users list then | 20:03 |
| apachelogger | http://www.kde.org/screenshots/images/large/kde2final_1.jpg | 20:03 |
| apachelogger | don't you remember kandalf that old lad | 20:04 |
| DaSkreech | I liked Kandalf :-( | 20:04 |
| * DaSkreech was proposing a new mascot for KDE4 | 20:04 | |
| apachelogger | http://dot.kde.org/972331966/972368338/Kde2-5.jpg | 20:05 |
| vorian | wow | 20:07 |
| vorian | that is awesome | 20:07 |
| apachelogger | http://www.linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/reviews/2531/1/ | 20:07 |
| rgreening | anyone here use the grab-merge.sh from merges.ubuntu.com? | 20:07 |
| jjesse | wow those images bring me back | 20:07 |
| apachelogger | there read about it | 20:07 |
| apachelogger | KDE 2 is pure awesomeness | 20:07 |
| mok0 | rgreening: yes, a modified version of it | 20:08 |
| rgreening | mok0: you using dad maybe? | 20:09 |
| mok0 | rgreening: mostly | 20:09 |
| rgreening | ah. | 20:09 |
| rgreening | mok0: I haven't used it before, was just going to try and do the merge for konversation. | 20:10 |
| mok0 | rgreening: just be careful, because it deletes everything in the cwd | 20:10 |
| rgreening | yeah, I know. | 20:10 |
| mok0 | rgreening: I got rid of that part :-) | 20:11 |
| rgreening | mok0: just lookng at the REPORT and I see a bunch of 'C', are these auto merged? and I only need to resolve the 'C*' ones? | 20:12 |
| mok0 | rgreening: those are files with conflicts, you need to edit them and resolve the merging problems. The two versions are both in there, with >>>> and <<<< markers | 20:13 |
| rgreening | oh, I was looking for the +++ ---, that's why I never saw anything... heh | 20:13 |
| mok0 | rgreening: separated by a ======= line | 20:13 |
| mok0 | heh | 20:13 |
| rgreening | ah. cool. | 20:13 |
| mok0 | indeed | 20:14 |
| meson10 | Riddell: ping ? | 20:34 |
| Sime_ | who is Ralph Janke? | 20:44 |
| Nightrose | Sime_: txwikinger | 20:50 |
| txwikinger | yes? | 20:50 |
| Sime_ | thanks. I just saw that he has been working on userconfig-kde4. | 20:50 |
| Sime_ | hi | 20:50 |
| txwikinger | hi | 20:50 |
| Sime_ | someone emailed me asking about the status of guidance + KDE4. | 20:51 |
| Sime_ | I just had a look at launchpad and say your work. ;-) | 20:51 |
| Sime_ | does it work? | 20:51 |
| txwikinger | Well.. it works standalone | 20:51 |
| txwikinger | I did get to integrade it into guidance | 20:51 |
| txwikinger | didnot | 20:51 |
| Sime_ | are you running kde trunk? | 20:52 |
| txwikinger | I also did not find any docu how to do this in KDE4 | 20:52 |
| Sime_ | it should be possible to get it running in systemsettings in KDE 4 too. | 20:52 |
| txwikinger | Well.. I did not find the docu how to connect it to systemsettings | 20:53 |
| txwikinger | I was able to somehow be recognised by systemsettings and the icon be shown | 20:53 |
| txwikinger | but it would not start because the I did not find how to do the logic inside | 20:53 |
| JontheEchidna | hmm, looks like you got farther than yuriy and I did then | 20:54 |
| txwikinger | yes I got it working standalone | 20:54 |
| JontheEchidna | nice | 20:54 |
| Sime_ | in kde trunk -> kdebindings.... tools/kcm_example/ you can see how it should work. | 20:54 |
| txwikinger | ok. I will have a look at it | 20:55 |
| txwikinger | cannot promise when though.. my container will come next week and will will have to move into our place here | 20:55 |
| glade88 | https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase-workspace/+bug/297794 | 20:57 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 297794 in kdebase-workspace "Digital clock widget does not update time when laptop is woken from sleep until minute gets incremented" [Undecided,New] | 20:57 |
| Sime_ | ;-) | 21:05 |
| aparedes | Hello. Is the something i can help out with? | 23:42 |
| DaSkreech | Yes | 23:50 |
| vorian | 3.5.10? | 23:51 |
| vorian | de | 23:51 |
| vorian | ja | 23:51 |
| vorian | vous | 23:51 |
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