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danilosme15:00
bigjoolsbonjour15:00
matsubara_oops, I'm late15:00
matsubara_:D15:00
danilosjust in time15:00
matsubara_#startmeeting15:00
MootBotMeeting started at 09:00. The chair is matsubara_.15:00
MootBotCommands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE]15:00
matsubara_so, welcome to this week's production meeting15:00
matsubara_who's here today?15:00
mrevellme15:00
rockstarme15:00
sinzuime15:00
intellectronicame15:00
danilosme15:01
flacosteme15:01
bigjoolsme15:01
Ursinhame15:02
matsubara_herb: ?15:02
herbme15:02
matsubara_ok everyone here but stub. I've pinged him already. let's move on and stub can catch up later15:02
matsubara_[TOPIC] Agenda15:02
matsubara_ * Next meeting15:02
matsubara_ * Actions from last meeting15:02
matsubara_ * Oops report & Critical Bugs15:02
matsubara_ * Operations report (mthaddon/herb/spm)15:02
matsubara_ * DBA report (DBA contact)15:02
MootBotNew Topic:  Agenda15:02
matsubara_[topic] next meeting15:02
MootBotNew Topic:  next meeting15:03
matsubara_so, same time next week?15:03
intellectronicai won't be here next week. i'm on holiday15:03
matsubara_intellectronica: can you arrange with someone from your team to send a qa contact?15:03
intellectronicamatsubara_: sure15:03
danilossame time next week is just fine15:03
matsubara_[action] add intellectronica to apologies on MeetingAgenda.15:03
MootBotACTION received:  add intellectronica to apologies on MeetingAgenda.15:03
matsubara_all right then, same time next week.15:04
matsubara_[topic] actions from last meeting15:04
MootBotNew Topic:  actions from last meeting15:04
matsubara_no actions from last meeting.15:04
matsubara_there were a couple of old ones which i cleaned up15:04
matsubara_[topic] oops report & critical bugs15:04
MootBotNew Topic:  oops report & critical bugs15:04
Ursinhaokay15:04
matsubara_Ursinha: please take the stage15:04
Ursinhait will be fast15:05
Ursinhahave one oops, want to know if someone of bugs (which I presume to be the owner) knows about that15:05
Ursinhahttps://lp-oops.canonical.com/oops.py/?oopsid=OOPS-1047S13815:05
ubottuhttps://devpad.canonical.com/~jamesh/oops.cgi/1047S13815:05
* intellectronica looking15:05
Ursinhaintellectronica, thanks15:05
matsubara_hmm that's probably abel's turf15:05
Ursinhamatsubara_, yes15:06
intellectronicai'll relay that to abel. it's black magic to me, tbh15:06
Ursinhaintellectronica, ok, thanks15:06
Ursinhamay I file a bug about it?15:06
Ursinhaintellectronica, I'll do that and give you the #15:06
matsubara_should have already :-)15:06
Ursinhaanyway15:06
intellectronicaUrsinha: plesae do15:06
Ursinhamatsubara_, just saw it man :)15:07
Ursinhaall other bugs are being handled, so no need to mention15:07
matsubara_Ursinha: fair enough15:07
Ursinhare critical bugs15:07
Ursinhawe have one, triaged15:08
Ursinhacode people15:08
matsubara_bug 29744815:08
ubottuLaunchpad bug 297448 in launchpad-bazaar "Launchpad will not do initial mirror of a branch that's the development focus of a project" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/29744815:08
Ursinhabug 29744815:08
matsubara_rockstar: any news about that one?15:08
rockstarmatsubara_, there has been discussion about it, but I'm not sure it's being worked.  That makes me question the Critical status.15:09
matsubara_exactly, can you down the importance to high or find someone to work on it? critical bugs need to be worked on immediately and a IncidentLog reported15:10
rockstarI think me all know the cause.  I'll bring it up in the meeting tonight, and get it assigned and fixed or downgrade the status15:10
rockstar:)15:10
matsubara_great. thanks rockstar!15:10
rockstarI think we're on the same page about this.  :)15:10
bigjoolsbingo15:10
Ursinhagreat15:10
matsubara_great. I think that's all for the oops & critical bugs section15:10
matsubara_thanks everyone15:11
Ursinhathanks guys15:11
matsubara_[topic] * Operations report (mthaddon/herb/spm)15:11
MootBotNew Topic:  * Operations report (mthaddon/herb/spm)15:11
herb- 2008-11-10: Cherry pick r7246 the app servers and private xmlrpc server to fix bug #28806415:11
ubottuLaunchpad bug 288064 in launchpad-foundations "Some timeout oops reports seem incomplete" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/28806415:11
herb- 2008-11-12: Cherry pick r7257 to the scripts server to fix bug #28636215:11
ubottuLaunchpad bug 286362 in rosetta "Import failure: 'POFileImporter' object has no attribute 'addUpdateError'" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/28636215:11
herb- Bugs #118625 and #156453 continue to be a problem. We again had to restart codebrowse several times this week.15:11
ubottuLaunchpad bug 118625 in launchpad-bazaar "codebrowse sometimes hangs" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/11862515:11
herb- Bug #239569 became a real problem this week when coupled with some sort of svn issue with the codeimport worker, as was noted in my email to the list. It ended up effectively DoSing the DB. We've put limits in at the DB level to hopefully prevent this in the future, but we should raise the importances of this bug.15:11
ubottuLaunchpad bug 156453 in loggerhead "production loggerhead branch leaks memory" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/15645315:11
ubottuBug 239569 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/239569 is private15:11
herb- We have a production rollout coming up on 2008-11-19. Have we nailed down the time on that yet?15:11
daniloshey stub :)15:12
danilosherb: I suppose time is something you guys decide on with kiko, no?15:13
matsubara_hey Ursinha, since the cp for bug 288064, did you notice if the timeouts are now sane again?15:13
ubottuLaunchpad bug 288064 in launchpad-foundations "Some timeout oops reports seem incomplete" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/28806415:13
herbdanilos: We get some input. :) I think it's typically decided a bit higher up the chain of command than the LOSAs15:13
danilosherb: and I believe it fluctuates a lot with last-minute fixes, no?15:13
Ursinhamatsubara_, yes, they are15:13
danilosherb: ah, ok15:13
herbdanilos: it does, but it really shouldn't15:13
Ursinhasince it landed to edge it's working ok15:14
danilosherb: yeah, I see your point15:14
matsubara_cool thanks Ursinha15:14
danilosherb: is the date confirmed at least?15:14
matsubara_herb: mrevell sent an announcement with dates and estimated down time15:14
herbdanilos: My understanding is we're firm on the date.15:15
herbmatsubara_: ok. cool.15:15
mrevellMy understand is that we're not really firm on it15:15
danilosherb: cool, thanks15:15
herbmatsubara_: I haven't waded through all my email yet this morning.15:15
mrevellSorry to be a pain but I think there's still some confusion over it15:15
mrevellI may yet have to correct my announcement15:15
herbmrevell: haha15:15
matsubara_oh15:15
herbmrevell: ok15:15
mrevelli've emailed kiko15:15
matsubara_I guess this can be sorted out outside this meeting anyway.15:15
mrevellsure15:16
matsubara_rockstar: any new about the loggerhead bug?15:16
matsubara_s/new/news/15:16
rockstarmatsubara_, I'm making a note to STRONGLY bring it up again.15:16
rockstarWith mwhudson on holiday, we haven't moved too much.15:16
matsubara_been critical for some time now. how do we handle critical bugs outside of the main launchpad code?15:16
rockstarI'll work with beuno and see if we can't get something together.15:17
rockstarmatsubara_, maybe we should bring it in and make it critical with launchpad-bazaar.15:17
rockstarIt's not critical for loggerhead, since they never see it.15:17
herbrockstar: just to give you some idea, it's the most common cause for nagios alarms for the OSAs.  which means our phones ring at us, which means it really annoys us. doesn't necessarily raise the importance, but definitely adds a story to the problem.15:18
rockstarIn fact, the bzr playground for gnome never sees it.  It's just us that is affected by it.15:18
intellectronicaif it can plausibly be dealt with like a critical, maybe it shouldn't be? there's always a risk of debasing that term15:18
rockstarherb, I know the false alarm dance.  I'll do what I can to make some noise.15:18
matsubara_[action] rockstar to work with beuno re: critical loggerhead (bug 156453)15:18
MootBotACTION received:  rockstar to work with beuno re: critical loggerhead (bug 156453)15:18
ubottuLaunchpad bug 156453 in loggerhead "production loggerhead branch leaks memory" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/15645315:18
herbrockstar: thanks15:19
matsubara_thanks rockstar15:19
matsubara_anything else herb?15:19
herbnothing.  thanks15:19
matsubara_ok thank you herb15:19
matsubara_moving on15:19
matsubara_[topic] * DBA report (DBA contact)15:20
MootBotNew Topic:  * DBA report (DBA contact)15:20
stubAll known issues we have had with replication in the staging environment are understood and sorted. I don't see any blockers for switching things on in production this cycle assuming QA doesn't show up anything (in particular, Launchpad APIs).15:20
stubDB patches are all landed except for the Job control system (in discussion between the bazaar team and Mark I believe), and data migration to take advantage of the ProductRelease -> Milestone linkage. When the data migration is done will depend on the functionality of the code rolled out (no point migrating the data on rollout or mid cycle if there is not code in place to maintain the migrated data correctly).15:20
stuboot.15:20
matsubara_thanks stub15:21
matsubara_stub: was an email sent re: the staging db name change?15:21
stubNope.15:22
stubSo the name of the staging db has changed to lpmain_staging and lpmain_staging_slave15:22
matsubara_really?15:22
matsubara_isn't launchapd_staging to lpmain_staging only?15:22
matsubara_stub: can you email the list about that change?15:23
matsubara_thanks stub15:23
stubPeople can query the slave if they want, but they probably don't want15:23
matsubara_stub: all right15:24
matsubara_anything else before I close?15:24
stubNames will change again at some point in the future (I've learnt more now), but the scripts are working fine atm and no gains for messing with it right now.15:24
matsubara_Thank you all for attending this week's Launchpad Production Meeting. See the channel topic for the location of the logs.15:25
matsubara_stub: ok. let us know once it changes :-)15:25
rockstarThanks matsubara_!15:25
intellectronicathanks matsubara_15:25
matsubara_#endmeeting15:25
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Ursinhathanks matsubara_15:26
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danilosthanks all15:27
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