[00:03] <mconnor> fta: so... http://people.mozilla.com/~mconnor/trademark-review/Ubuntu/Round%201/
[00:03] <mconnor> do you have more details on any of the xulrunner bzXXX bugs?
[00:03] <mconnor> or, really, [reed] ?
[00:04] <mconnor> also, um, changing venkman's GUID makes me a little sad
[00:05] <mconnor> that's not even user visible
[00:09] <fta> well, it's because we install is in /usr/lib/xulrunner-addons/extensions so it was nice to have a readable name in there
[00:09] <fta> but it's not very important
[00:09] <fta> -is+it
[00:21] <mconnor> I mean, sure
[00:21] <mconnor> but
[00:21] <mconnor> why isn't that upstream?
[00:21] <mconnor> we changed DOMI at some point
[00:22] <mconnor> it just means that a) you could get two copies and b) anything doing any sort of dependency checking will either have to support both cases or it won't work in Ubuntu
[00:22] <fta> .. because we're not that good at pushing our patches just yet, but we have hope, we take our pills
[00:23] <mconnor> is there a bug?
[00:24] <fta> probably not, if we open a bug, we add the patch, here, it probably passed under the radar
[00:24] <mconnor> hrm
[00:24] <mconnor> there's a lot of stuff that should have bugs here
[00:25] <mconnor> this is actually a little depressing
[00:26] <fta> we are a small team with too many things to do, we desperately need help. it's not an excuse, more a fact
[00:26] <asac> mconnor: its my failure to allocate the appropriate time slots
[00:27] <fta> we should probably do a monthly review
[00:27] <asac> and now i am on holiday ;)
[00:28] <asac> mconnor: but as promissed this is really a high prio thing for the beginning of jaunty cycle
[00:28] <asac> e.g. right when i return from holiday
[00:29] <fta> asac, when is that?
[00:29] <asac> i had a time slot before holiday, but then there came stupid legal stuff
[00:29] <fta> asac, i mean, the end of your holidays
[00:29] <asac> fta: officially my first holiday this year ends end-of-next-week
[00:30] <fta> asac, good for you :)
[00:30] <asac> fta: but now i have to do security update ...so i will probably take monday off too ;)
[00:30] <asac> maybe i also have to do urgent SRU for NM while on holiday :(
[00:30] <asac> but i think i shouldnt do that :)
[00:30] <[reed]> asac: everybody here at my school using 8.10 is complaining about 802.1x :(
[00:31] <[reed]> when are you going to push that?
[00:31] <asac> [reed]: does the package fix that for them too?
[00:31] <[reed]> and when are you going to fix the vpn stuff? you already found one bug :)
[00:31] <asac> [reed]: i think we only covered a corner case for those that have "slow" drivers
[00:31] <[reed]> sure
[00:31] <[reed]> it's a corner case
[00:31] <asac> [reed]: the SRU will go up at the same time
[00:32] <[reed]> but at least I can connect to 1x occasionally
[00:32] <[reed]> instead of never before
[00:32] <asac> [reed]: no i dont mean EAP in general, i mean what we fixed. there are a bunch of people in th ebugs that cannot connect at all
[00:32] <[reed]> ah
[00:32] <asac> [reed]: those are clearly driver bugs.
[00:32] <asac> [reed]: anyway. as it seems i will invest the half-day of work it requires to get this up tomorrow evening
[00:33] <[reed]> :)
[00:33] <asac> just dont feel good with patches i have in my pocket and being on holiday :(
[00:40] <mconnor> asac: there's just so many of them, is it so hard to at least file bugs?
[00:59] <asac> mconnor: yes, we have to file bugs while doing things. those bzXXX shouldnt have existed in the first place.
[02:28] <cwillu> is ff3.1b1 packaged in any ppa's that you know of?
[09:42] <armin76> asac: did you had a look at the bug?
[13:00] <fta2> ohoh
[13:00] <fta2>  * Source Package: xulrunner-1.9
[13:00] <fta2>  * Version: 1.9.0.3+nobinonly-0ubuntu1
[13:00] <fta2>  * Architecture: armel
[13:01] <fta2>  * State: Failed to build :(
[13:01] <fta2> but arch "armel" :)
[13:36] <BUGabundo> fta hi
[13:36] <BUGabundo> when do you plan to make Jauny builds of FF3.1 ?
[13:36] <BUGabundo> Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.1b2pre) Gecko/20081110 Ubuntu/8.10 (intrepid) Shiretoko/3.1b2pre ID:20081110142839
[13:37] <BUGabundo> but I'm already testing jaunty!
[13:42] <gnomefreak> BUGabundo: jaunty PPA's have only been working for a few days and the buildd's are also having issues, errors are due to chroot errors
[13:44] <gnomefreak> BUGabundo: your also not on the latest 3.1 version
[13:46] <gnomefreak> fta: asac as i was saying before interupted by work. i have 4 extensions ready for jaunty anytime either have time. they are on my PPA (i finally got finished with firegpg bullshit
[13:46] <gnomefreak> )*
[13:54] <BUGabundo> gnomefreak: I'm using the latest available in the fta PPA
[13:54] <gnomefreak> and from the PPA's it looks like im the only one with jaunty packages at this time
[13:55] <gnomefreak> BUGabundo: no your not
[13:55] <BUGabundo> $ apt-cache policy firefox-3.1
[13:55] <BUGabundo> firefox-3.1:
[13:55] <BUGabundo>   Installed: 3.1~b2~hg20081110r21542+nobinonly-0ubuntu1~fta1
[13:55] <BUGabundo>   Candidate: 3.1~b2~hg20081110r21542+nobinonly-0ubuntu1~fta1
[13:55] <BUGabundo>   Version table:
[13:55] <BUGabundo>  *** 3.1~b2~hg20081110r21542+nobinonly-0ubuntu1~fta1 0
[13:55] <BUGabundo>         500 http://ppa.launchpad.net intrepid/main Packages
[13:55] <BUGabundo>         100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
[13:55] <gnomefreak> BUGabundo: re read what you typed above
[13:55] <BUGabundo> its taken from FF it self
[13:55] <gnomefreak> BUGabundo: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US;  rv:1.9.1b2pre) Gecko/20081110 Ubuntu/8.10  (intrepid) Shiretoko/3.1b2pre ID:20081110142839
[13:56] <BUGabundo> maybe it's a bug.. and it need updating?
[13:56] <gnomefreak> one sec
[13:56] <gnomefreak> yep it does
[13:56] <BUGabundo> Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.1b2pre) Gecko/20081110 Ubuntu/8.10 (intrepid) Shiretoko/3.1b2pre ID:20081110142839
[13:56] <gnomefreak> BUGabundo: yes i posted yours above
[13:56] <BUGabundo> I know
[13:57] <BUGabundo> I just reposted to make sure
[13:57] <gnomefreak> BUGabundo: it needs to be updated but should have been with latest upload
[13:57] <BUGabundo> and checked about.... I was using Nigly tools export
[13:57] <BUGabundo> humm
[13:57] <BUGabundo> ill bug it on LP
[13:57] <gnomefreak> no
[13:57] <BUGabundo> no ?
[13:57] <gnomefreak> its not in ubuntu repos bugs dont get filed on LP
[13:58] <BUGabundo> o
[13:58] <BUGabundo> so against the PPA?
[13:58] <gnomefreak> BUGabundo: no tell us in here or on the mailing list
[13:58] <BUGabundo> just did
[13:58] <BUGabundo> lol
[13:58] <gnomefreak> wait for fta and let him know about it
[13:58] <BUGabundo> emailing then!
[13:59] <BUGabundo> ubuntu-mozillateam@lists.ubuntu.com correct?
[13:59] <gnomefreak> yep
[14:00]  * BUGabundo composing
[14:00] <BUGabundo> email sent gnomefreak
[14:01] <BUGabundo> shouldn't PPA LP Bugs be used for this?
[14:01] <BUGabundo> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/~fta
[14:01] <gnomefreak> fta asac the versions is my PPA are chatzilla ~jjv2 firegpg ~jjv1 linkwidgets ~jjv1 wizz-rss ~jjv2
[14:01] <gnomefreak> BUGabundo: PPA package bugs do not get reported to LP
[14:02] <gnomefreak> use the mailing list or in here.
[14:02] <BUGabundo> so that bug page should be disable!
[14:02] <BUGabundo> it may accumulate bugs that are not seen!
[14:02] <BUGabundo> wrong link
[14:03] <gnomefreak> BUGabundo: what link?
[14:03] <BUGabundo> wait
[14:03] <BUGabundo> getting the correct one
[14:04] <BUGabundo> never mind
[14:04] <BUGabundo> I was confusing ppl with project
[14:04] <BUGabundo> duh
[14:04] <BUGabundo> brb
[14:04] <gnomefreak> and yet with all the work i did sound still dont frigging work
[14:05] <gnomefreak> ber back while email loads
[14:05] <gnomefreak> and waiting for this kid to get tired of my pm
[14:12] <gnomefreak> BUGabundo: more i think about it help>about and about:about are handled by Mozilla.
[14:12] <gnomefreak> fta: anyway we can patch firefox to look at changelog upstream version during build or postinst
[14:14] <gnomefreak> also why im reading emails 3.0.4 and 2.0.0.18 are released
[14:17] <gnomefreak> ha pango fix will be in xulrunner 1.9.1b1 now to find bug report on our end about this
[14:29] <asac> cwillu: look at fta ppa
[14:31] <gnomefreak> we dont support pld linux do we?
[14:32] <gnomefreak> damn it i wish he could forget my pm
[14:39] <fta2> gnomefreak, i will have a look at your extensions after work, ping me after 7pm UTC
[14:39] <gnomefreak> fta2: ok will try
[14:39] <gnomefreak> thanks fta2
[14:39] <fta2> BUGabundo, the package is ready, i'm just waiting for beta 2. i see no point in pusing beta 1, it's old now
[14:47] <gnomefreak> asac: what does firefox use for spelling? hunspell?
[14:50] <asac> yeah
[14:51] <asac> gnomefreak: are those extension versions in your branches too? did you ask for a merge (for those that have ~ubuntu-dev branches yet)?
[14:52] <gnomefreak> asac: not yet, they are there but i have a few pushes to do that i havent gotten to yet. the pushes are just changing target distro
[14:53] <gnomefreak> lixul is corrupt?
[14:53] <gnomefreak> libxul even
[14:53] <gnomefreak> libxul0d to be exact
[14:53] <asac> gnomefreak: libxul doesnt exist forr real
[14:53] <asac> or does it?
[14:54] <gnomefreak> asac: bug 297644 and from this it does
[14:54] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 297644 in xulrunner "package libxul0d None [modified: /var/lib/dpkg/info/libxul0d.list] failed to install/upgrade: corrupted filesystem tarfile - corrupted package archive" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/297644
[14:54] <gnomefreak> think i found a dupe of that too
[14:54] <gnomefreak> nope just broken packages
[14:54] <asac> !info libxul0d
[14:55] <ubottu> libxul0d (source: xulrunner): Gecko engine library. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.8.1.16+nobinonly-0ubuntu1 (intrepid), package size 5593 kB, installed size 14644 kB
[14:55] <asac> lame
[15:00] <sebner> asac: mighty asac you forgot to add a comment :P
[15:00] <gnomefreak> lame == 1.8 since we dont neeed it anymore. AFAIK firefox-2 was only thing that still needs it rest of packages are using 1.9 by Intrepid
[15:09] <gnomefreak> asac: is there a way to use bzr to list only last few commits not pushes? bzr log (something liek that
[15:09] <gnomefreak> like
[15:11] <asac> gnomefreak: bzr log | less
[15:11] <asac> then you can use arrow keys to go up and down ;)
[15:11] <gnomefreak> :)
[15:13] <gnomefreak> asac: IIRC you only have ~dev branches for firegpg maybe chatzilla no other ones
[15:13] <gnomefreak> ill let you know when im done pushing changes so you can make them. let me know the ones you have ill propose a merge
[15:15] <asac> gnomefreak: yeah. when i am not here you can also ask fta for sponsorship and push to ~ubuntu-dev
[15:15] <asac> but i will be in and out today
[15:16] <gnomefreak> ok im done pushing now :) im looking through your branches to see if you have any of them
[15:17] <gnomefreak> yep firegpg is only one you have
[15:19] <gnomefreak> ok proposed firegpg
[15:21] <gnomefreak> asac: fta2  when you get time ~dev branches need to be made for https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~gnomefreak/firefox-extensions/chatzilla.ubuntu https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~gnomefreak/firefox-extensions/linkwidgets.ubuntu https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~gnomefreak/firefox-extensions/wizz-rss.ubuntu
[15:21] <gnomefreak> ok im away for a few minutes my wrist is killing me but will be around if needed
[15:26] <fta2> BUGabundo, what is the problem with the version?
[15:27] <fta2> 3.1~b2~hg20081110r21542 corresponds to revision 21542 committed 2008/11/10
[15:28] <fta2> in "Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.1b2pre) Gecko/20081110 Ubuntu/8.10 (intrepid) Shiretoko/3.1b2pre ID:20081110142839", the ID is the build id, i.e. the build date
[15:28] <fta2> build date >= commit date
[15:43] <gnomefreak> fta2: i think the b2pre
[15:43] <gnomefreak> since b2 is finial as i recall
[15:45] <gnomefreak> ok im going to take a nap for 2 hours or so.
[15:46] <fta2> b2 is final ? really ?
[15:46] <fta2> [reed], ^^ ?
[15:46] <[reed]> it's not
[15:46] <gnomefreak> oh i thought it was
[15:46] <gnomefreak> well atleast our version says it is
[15:47] <gnomefreak> let me see if i still have email maybe i read it wrong
[15:47] <fta2> it's not there; http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/tags
[15:47] <asac> fta2: i think b1 is final ;)
[15:47] <gnomefreak> shit never mind it was 3.0.41
[15:47] <gnomefreak> -1
[15:48] <asac> fta2: so lesson learned: not only being behind cause user confusion ... but also being ahead ;)
[15:48] <gnomefreak> wtf my message was rejected
[15:48] <gnomefreak> asac: i cant propose a mege
[15:48] <gnomefreak> merge
[15:48] <asac> gnomefreak: i cant believe that
[15:48] <asac> gnomefreak: or #launchpad bug ;)?
[15:49] <gnomefreak> asac: asking in #lp
[15:49] <asac> gnomefreak: go to your branch and select "propose for merge" ... then select the ~ubuntu-dev branch
[15:49] <asac> that worked for me
[15:49] <gnomefreak> Subject:
[15:49] <gnomefreak> Re: Proposed merge of ~gnomefreak/firefox-extensions/firegpg.ubuntu into ~ubuntu-dev/firefox-extensions/firegpg.ubuntu
[15:49] <gnomefreak> From:
[15:49] <gnomefreak> John Vivirito <gnomefreak@gmail.com>
[15:49] <gnomefreak> Date:
[15:49] <gnomefreak> Thu, 13 Nov 2008 15:19:50 -0000
[15:49] <gnomefreak> To:
[15:49] <asac> gnomefreak: whats the problem?
[15:49] <gnomefreak> MOTU <universe-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com>
[15:49] <gnomefreak> Your message was rejected
[15:50] <asac> gnomefreak: why do you answer by mail?
[15:50] <asac> gnomefreak: ah ok
[15:50] <asac> gnomefreak: well. thats ok
[15:50] <gnomefreak> i didnt
[15:50] <asac> gnomefreak: its just that universe-bugs apparently needs a subscription
[15:50] <asac> and auto rejects
[15:50] <asac> when you merge the mesasge goes to the branch team
[15:50] <asac> which apepars to be universe-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com for ubuntu-dev
[15:53] <gnomefreak> asac: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~gnomefreak/firefox-extensions/firegpg.ubuntu/+merge/1671
[15:53] <gnomefreak> asac: i should never get a reject
[15:54] <asac> gnomefreak: yeah. but minor issue i guess. better to know that your merge request wasnt mailed anywhere i guess
[15:55] <asac> [reed]: those at your uni that cant connect ... do they all run iwl chipsets? or some even atheros?
[15:57] <[reed]> not sure, will check...
[15:57] <asac> [reed]: would also be interesting to know what kind of AP that is (e.g. a, g, n)
[15:57] <asac> i found that iwl drivers have a bug with "n" networks and perform particularly bad on those
[15:58] <asac> could even be that that bug is higher in the wifi stack and affect all drivers that are based on mac80211
[15:58] <asac> s/higher/lower/
[15:59] <gnomefreak> asac: why do merge requests go to mailing lists?
[15:59] <gnomefreak> its the ML that rejected me
[15:59] <gnomefreak> universe mailing list
[16:00] <asac> gnomefreak: they go to whatever is the default mail address for the user/team that owns the branches you ask a merge for
[16:00] <asac> e.g. ~ubuntu-dev in our case
[16:00] <gnomefreak> universe-bugs-owner@lists.ubuntu.com to be exact. shouldnt LP be handled outside of the ML
[16:00] <asac> gnomefreak: not sure who set that up
[16:01] <gnomefreak> asac: i gave you merge page above
[16:01] <asac> gnomefreak: yeah
[16:04] <asac> gnomefreak: actually i got the "merge" request through email
[16:04] <asac> for firegpg
[16:04] <asac> or did you bounce those to me?
[16:04] <gnomefreak> not bounces i wouldnt think it was mailing list that rejected them
[16:05] <gnomefreak> im asking in ~motu to find out why mailing list has anything to do with it a reject to me is not needed if you get email about the merge
[16:05] <gnomefreak> shit
[16:05] <gnomefreak> asac: dont do that yet latest push isnt listed there
[16:06] <gnomefreak> its up to revo 15
[16:06] <gnomefreak> only see 14 there
[16:06] <gnomefreak> not sure if that is gonna affect merge
[16:06] <fta2> [reed], I just got my CDG-SFO/SFO-CVG-CDG confirmation, not that bad after all
[16:07] <[reed]> ah, cool
[16:07] <[reed]> I'm TUP-MEM-MSP-SFO (and visa-versa)
[16:07] <[reed]> :(
[16:08]  * gnomefreak wonders what was wrong with the names fta2 and [reed] :(
[16:09] <[reed]> what's wrong?
[16:09] <asac> [reed]: TUP?
[16:10] <[reed]> Tupelo, MS
[16:10] <[reed]> my hometown (not college town)
[16:10] <[reed]> my exams end on Dec. 8th
[16:11] <[reed]> I back up my room and go home to Tupelo that night
[16:11] <[reed]> and then fly out early the next morning
[16:11] <[reed]> hehe
[16:11] <[reed]> on the 9th
[16:11] <fta2> oh, not on the 6th/7th ?
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[16:12] <fta2> [reed], waw, TUP-MEM is short
[16:13] <fta2> [reed], ~30 to 40min
[16:14] <[reed]> yep
[16:14] <[reed]> fta2: no, as I said, I have exams that I can't miss
[16:14] <[reed]> semester exams
[16:14] <[reed]> no choice
[16:14] <[reed]> it's either come late or fail all my classes ;)
[16:16] <[reed]> though, I am staying in MV for another week
[16:16] <[reed]> not going home until the 20th
[16:16] <[reed]> going to work at the office
[16:17] <[reed]> I'll change hotels on that Saturday (the 13th)
[16:17] <[reed]> to a much fancier hotel than the one we're staying at
[16:17] <[reed]> ;)
[16:17] <[reed]> I've stayed at the one we're staying at
[16:17] <[reed]> internet connection is horrible
[16:17] <fta2> how was it ?
[16:18] <[reed]> rooms were ok
[16:18] <asac> [reed]: after all the events we had in the past, i think that we took extra care that there is good connection now
[16:18] <[reed]> asac: good connection at Google, sure
[16:18] <fta2> the web site claims internet access is excellent
[16:18] <[reed]> but what about the hotel? :)
[16:18] <[reed]> fta2: lies
[16:18] <asac> [reed]: heh ;) ... thats what i ment :)
[16:18] <asac> but most likely they just failed again
[16:18] <[reed]> MoCo people stay at the Wild Palms all the time
[16:18] <[reed]> and they _always_ complain about the internet there
[16:19] <[reed]> it's really bad
[16:19] <[reed]> like, drop ssh sessions bad
[16:20] <asac> telnet ;)
[16:21] <[reed]> lol
[16:22] <asac> we have 3G support now ;)
[16:23] <asac> i think i have the right to get a CDMA modem for testing while being in US
[16:23] <asac> :)
[16:50] <asac> [reed]: did you hear about any hard regressions yet?
[16:50] <asac> wrt yesterdays release
[16:50] <cwillu> asac, thanks
[16:50] <[reed]> asac: nothing so far
[16:50] <asac> cwillu: did you find it? its already ahead of b1 ... but i guess that shouldnt matter ;)
[16:51] <asac> [reed]: ok cool. i will wait 2 more hours and then instruct security team to push the bits
[16:52] <cwillu> asac, yep.  I've got a firefox session with > 200 tabs open, I have a suspicion that tracemonkey will improve the constant 15% firefox load from all the advert managers running crappy setInterval's
[16:53] <asac> cwillu: yeah :) ... try to enable javascript JIT
[16:53] <asac> not sure if its on by default now
[16:53] <cwillu> it's not
[16:53] <asac> fta2: ? ^^
[16:53] <asac> cwillu: not even for content? ok. give it a try and let us know ;)
[16:53] <cwillu> nope
[16:54] <cwillu> but the keys exist, so it's straightforward to turn it on (well, easier than copy/pasting the name first :p)
[16:54] <asac> imo 200 tabs open is not really something firefox should encourage ;)
[16:54] <asac> but well. apparently you are not the only one using it that way ;)
[16:55] <cwillu> I don't see why it's objectively a bad thing
[16:56] <cwillu> any more than, say, 200 running processes
[16:56] <asac> hmm
[16:56] <asac> i think processes can be swapped better ;)
[16:56] <BUGabundo> fta2 I thought we got nightlies on your PPA
[16:56] <cwillu> that's a fault of firefox, not a fault in my use of it :p
[16:57] <asac> cwillu: i already admitted that there appear to be use.
[16:57] <asac> i would just expect that 80% of the 200 are "left-behind" things
[16:57] <cwillu> asac, that's good.  it means I don't have to beat you :p
[16:57] <asac> similar to all the garbage i regularly have to celan up
[16:57] <asac> on my drives
[16:57] <cwillu> I do a garbage collection every week or so, but there's surprisingly little
[16:58] <asac> cwillu: do you use flashblock at least?
[16:58] <cwillu> lots of api doc, things I want to respond to, things I need to finish reading
[16:58] <cwillu> yep
[16:58] <asac> ok otherwise i would have expected 100% and systemload of 200 ;)
[16:58] <cwillu> I prefer running flash in nswrapper so I can nice it, but flashblock is the easier solution
[16:58] <cwillu> :)
[17:02] <BUGabundo> hi asac. how where the vacations?
[17:03] <asac> BUGabundo: i am still on holiday officially ... was forced to come back because of ffox release
[17:04] <BUGabundo> ah ok! sorry to ear!
[17:04]  * cwillu pokes asac with a stick
[17:08] <cwillu> asac, alternatively, is it a bad sign that I keep my firefox profile in a git repository? :p
[17:08] <asac> cwillu: interesting idea
[17:10] <cwillu> haven't beat up on it enough to trust that commiting with firefox open actually grabs a complete and up-to-date image (or even a usable image)
[17:14] <asac> cwillu: ffox writes stuff on shutdown and sometimes in between
[17:14] <asac> cwillu: sou you should probably commit to git when ffox shuts down
[17:14] <cwillu> I don't shut firefox down very often :p
[17:15] <asac> cwillu: yeah. you could write an extension that flushses pref changes and commit then
[17:15] <cwillu> in theory, if the sqlite db wouldn't be corrupted by a hard reboot, the commit has a chance of being useful
[17:15] <asac> there are other files that might cause more issues though
[17:15] <asac> cwillu: NFS home?
[17:16] <asac> cwillu: sqlite is supposed to do stuff in transactions so corruption should be unlikely
[17:16] <cwillu> nope, local
[17:16] <asac> only issues i know are NFS home
[17:16] <asac> where a cold reboot doesnt release a flock or something
[17:16] <asac>  - but thats more a NFS issue
[17:17] <cwillu> the issue being that git isn't atomic wrt to putting changes in the index file:  it could see an 'atomic' firefox sqlite commit as two distinct modifications, and commit one and not the other
[17:17] <cwillu> there's also a possible problem with the fsync workaround
[17:18] <cwillu> (I run my fs in full logging mode, allowing one to disable the imo overly aggressive fsync'ing :p)
[17:18] <cwillu> (aka, I cause my own headaches :p)
[17:19] <cwillu> 3.1 is coming up right now, once it finishes loading all the tabs I'll turn on the jit and see how long it takes to crash :)
[17:23] <cwillu> oh, jit content is on now.  wasn't on 3.1b1
[17:23]  * cwillu turns on jit content for maximum grief :p
[17:24] <cwillu> jit chrome, rather
[17:28] <cwillu> oh, is there a way to turn off that tab switching nonsense? :p
[18:20] <thunderstruck> fta: i wont be here in 40 minutes when you told me to remind you but the 4 extension uilt for jaunty in my ppa are ready to go. firegpg chatzilla linkwidgets and wizz-rss thanks ill be back tonight or tomorrow
[19:45] <cwillu> hmm... flashblock is ineffective in ff3.1b2pre
[20:04] <fta> hm, liferea is moving away from gecko, 1.6 will be based on webkit
[20:04] <sebner> fta: and the hype goes on ...
[20:11] <fta> crimsun, after a reboot on jaunty, no more sound.
[20:12] <fta> crimsun, i was running jaunty before, but i didn't reboot since the upgrade from intrepid, until now
[20:14] <fta> crimsun, what is pulse-session for?
[20:15] <sebner> fta: hehehe, I had the same and reinstalled intrepid ;P
[20:15] <fta> i won't
[20:17] <fta> no sound with alsa either
[20:20] <fta> http://paste.ubuntu.com/71475/
[20:20] <fta> Audio devices: NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG ???
[20:24] <fta> hmm, now i have some sound
[20:29] <fta> it's the 6.1 config
[20:35] <fta> everything is sent to the front and the front volume was set to 0
[21:05] <rzr> crimsun:
[21:05] <rzr> <cwillu> hmm... flashblock is ineffective in ff3.1b2pre
[21:05] <rzr> crimsun: oopz
[21:06] <rzr> let me check
[21:08] <fta> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GaID1bF6Pz0
[21:46] <mconnor> mmm
[21:46] <mconnor> I really wish you guys filed bugs more often
[21:46] <mconnor> because some of this stuff should Just Work
[21:47] <mconnor> like the one that disables the sw update UI
[21:47] <mconnor> you're already not building the update code, so that UI just shouldn't be there at build time
[21:49] <fta> maybe a problem with incremental changes over time, it makes patches become silently obsolete :P
[21:51] <miik> where i can get 3.0.4?
[21:51] <miik> when you put in repo?
[21:54] <fta> miik, soon, it's ready, but i can't upload it, we need asac, currently on holidays
[21:55] <miik> asac??
[21:55] <miik> oh, its a guy named asac
[21:55] <fta> yes :)
[21:55] <miik> well, think if asac gets hit by a bus, then i cant get update?
[21:55] <miik> there must be some way so we can get update even if people on vacation
[21:56] <miik> its like if i goto the hospital and people say "sorry, we cant take you, the doctor is on a vacation"
[21:56] <miik> or im drowning in the pool and the rescue guy goes "sorry, im on a coffee break"
[21:57] <fta> i understand, you're right, yet, i can't do anything about it. i'm not allowed to push in main
[21:58] <fta> there's a preview in my ppa if you really want it, that's the best i can provide
[21:59] <miik> oh
[22:00] <miik> well, you should tell the guy who is the boss, that you need like some solution to be able to handle stuff incase a guy goes on a vacation, goes missing or gets hit by a buss
[22:00] <miik> if ubuntu gonna be professional, you cant delay stuff cuz one guy is on a vacation
[22:01] <miik> i understand why companies dont want to use linux, when its so badly supported and people can go on vacation and then shit wont get done
[22:01] <fta> asac, ^^ please don't get hit bus
[22:01] <fta> +by a
[22:02] <miik> well i wouldnt want to run an interprise infrastucture then have a vunlerability in something, and then because the guy is on vacation i cant get updates, and we get hacked and loose millions
[22:02] <directhex> miik, you know microsoft only post updates to their entierprise stuff  on a particular day of the week, right?
[22:02] <miik> yes :( on second tuesday each month :(
[22:03] <miik> thats just stupid, its true though
[22:03] <miik> i hope IBM, Red Hat, Novell does better
[22:48] <rzr> asac: gutten nacht
[22:53] <rzr> asac: https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-dev/firefox-extensions/flashblock.ubuntu/+merge/1683
=== rzr is now known as rZr
[23:15] <fta> how can i force an app using libxul-embedding to use xul 1.9 when I have both xul 1.9 and 1.9.1 installed ?
[23:15] <fta> [reed], mconnor, asac: ^^
[23:16] <mconnor> I have no clue, sorry
[23:16] <mconnor> I avoid such things :)
[23:19] <fta> ok, trying in #dev