bryce | heya sbeattie | 02:31 |
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sbeattie | bryce: hey | 02:32 |
tjaalton | bryce: nice, I think it would be fine for an SRU | 05:58 |
tjaalton | for jaunty all the shiny stuff should make the patch obsolete for good | 05:59 |
* bryce ndos | 06:08 | |
bryce | I'm working on writing an X smoke test next | 06:10 |
bryce | something I'd committed to doing a long time ago, and the due date of the EOY is coming up... | 06:10 |
bryce | got my pbuilders and chroots updated for jaunty... ready to start in on merges now :-) | 06:13 |
bryce | btw, talked with jesse. they're putting out a 2.4.3 driver | 06:14 |
bryce | however it looks like we already have all the patches that are going to be in it | 06:16 |
tjaalton | were you considering it for intrepid? | 06:55 |
tjaalton | btw, the versions_current -page doesn't load | 06:56 |
tjaalton | your site is not responding :) | 06:56 |
bryce | tjaalton: yeah try :8080 | 07:11 |
bryce | http://bryceharrington.org:8080/X/PkgList/versions_current.html | 07:11 |
bryce | my ISP blocks port 80 | 07:11 |
tjaalton | whee, that works | 07:11 |
wgrant | bryce: Oh, they do that over there too? | 07:12 |
bryce | yeah I was considering 2.4.3 for intrepid. But we already have everything so | 07:12 |
bryce | wgrant: yep. know of a good kludgearound that doesn't require some $10/mo or something? | 07:13 |
wgrant | bryce: Not really. I do some stuff over IPv6 tunnels, but that's not a workaround for everything yet. | 07:14 |
wgrant | But uni has IPv6, so it works for that. | 07:14 |
tjaalton | sigh, why doesn't requestsync work.. hangs when trying to open the smtp connection | 07:28 |
wgrant | tjaalton: Use the launchpadlib backend. | 07:29 |
tjaalton | wgrant: the what? I'll just file a bug if there's no quicker way to do it :) | 07:32 |
wgrant | tjaalton: Make sure you have python-launchpad-bugs installed, and run requestsync with --lp. | 07:36 |
wgrant | That will use the LP API to do things, rather than email. | 07:36 |
tjaalton | wgrant: oh, nice | 07:36 |
tjaalton | I need to login first? | 07:37 |
wgrant | Hmmm, probably. | 07:37 |
wgrant | Not sure how, but there will be docs somewhere... | 07:37 |
tjaalton | hmm, DEBSMTP.. I'll just set that | 07:41 |
bryce | tjaalton: hey got something for ya | 07:48 |
bryce | http://bryceharrington.org:8080/X/PkgList/versions_current.html | 07:48 |
bryce | now with jaunty jackalopes | 07:48 |
bryce | wgrant: not too many docs ;-) | 07:49 |
tjaalton | bryce: great thanks | 07:49 |
bryce | I'm using launchpadlib for the backend for my spamming scripts | 07:49 |
tjaalton | I'll file sync requests and merge some | 07:49 |
tjaalton | hmm libx11 1.1.99.2 | 07:50 |
tjaalton | with handoff stuff | 07:50 |
bryce | I think you have to install launchpadlib out of git. We really need to get the ubuntu package updated | 07:50 |
tjaalton | DEBSMTP worked fine | 07:51 |
tjaalton | with that I can use our own smtp-server. connections outside the network are not allowed | 07:51 |
bryce | cool | 07:51 |
tjaalton | smtp connections that is. otherwise the world would be a bleak place to be | 07:52 |
wgrant | tjaalton: Bleak and more productive? | 07:53 |
tjaalton | wgrant: if your profession is to twiddle thumbs, then yes ;) | 07:53 |
wgrant | I think the Book Meme must be the most complete one I've seen on Planet Ubuntu... | 07:54 |
tjaalton | my home ADSL has been down for nearly five days now, and it's hard to live without it. glad that 3G works on my phone&laptop | 07:55 |
tjaalton | wgrant: yeah, even I participated.. | 07:55 |
wgrant | I noticed :( | 07:55 |
tjaalton | I should write something sensible quickly | 07:56 |
bryce | tjaalton: and risk getting kicked off planet??? | 08:01 |
tjaalton | bryce: <g> | 08:01 |
tjaalton | uh, bryce, xorg-server git doesn't have patch 138 | 10:55 |
tjaalton | git add ftw | 10:55 |
Kano | hi, what about an automatic mac keyboard detection? grep -q Apple /proc/bus/input/devices && echo apple keyboard | 11:52 |
Kano | to set model | 11:52 |
Kano | grep -q "Apple.*Keyboard" /proc/bus/input/devices && setxkbmap -model macbook79 | 12:23 |
Kano | is maybe best | 12:23 |
jcristau | no, it's not 'best', it's ugly. plus, pretty pointless. | 12:27 |
Kano | but it is not detected at all currently | 12:27 |
jcristau | that's ok, it doesn't need to be | 12:28 |
Kano | no mac keyboard has a pc 105 layout | 12:28 |
Kano | is /etc/default/console-setup used for X? | 12:28 |
jcristau | yes. but again, setting the xkb model doesn't change anything, if it's not jp106 or abnt2 | 12:29 |
jcristau | (other than the geometry, but that's usually unimportant) | 12:30 |
Kano | nope, @ is for example at a different place and other extra keys | 12:30 |
Kano | especially with german layout | 12:30 |
jcristau | that doesn't matter... | 12:30 |
Kano | is the console-setup evaluted for x too or not? i read that in a german mag | 12:31 |
jcristau | *sigh* | 12:31 |
Kano | jcristau: btw. i do not own a mac, but i got error reports from em, those do not want/know how to change keyboard layout with live mode every time | 12:33 |
tjaalton | bryce: I've added the patch to git, no worries | 15:21 |
tjaalton | hmm, I can make my laptop fail to resume.. attach to the doc, remove from it and then put to sleep. seems to happen every time | 16:02 |
tjaalton | but it's a kernel bug for sure | 16:02 |
Ng | https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/273899 - anything that jumps out on that one? | 16:06 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 273899 in xserver-xorg-video-intel "IBM thinkpad X200 use G45 and gma 4500 abnormal display 1280 x 800." [Undecided,Confirmed] | 16:06 |
Ng | I have an X200 in front of me for the next couple of hours | 16:06 |
Ng | it's just installing at the moment and then I need to get it working and have sane VGA out, so if anyone wants any info collecting, or tests trying, shout soon :) | 16:07 |
tjaalton | a logfile with modedebugging turned on | 16:09 |
tjaalton | home -> | 16:11 |
Ng | k | 16:12 |
Ng | how for to modedebugging? | 17:19 |
tjaalton | Option "ModeDebug" "true" | 17:21 |
tjaalton | to the driver section | 17:21 |
Ng | ta | 17:30 |
Ng | tjaalton: in the Device section? | 17:38 |
tjaalton | Ng: uh, yes | 17:54 |
Ng | http://mairukipa.tenshu.net/x200-xlog.txt | 17:57 |
Ng | (also attached to the bug) | 17:57 |
tjaalton | it thinks hdmi-1 is connected when it's not | 17:58 |
tjaalton | and since the only shared resolution is 10x7 it's used | 17:59 |
Ng | huh, yeah, xrandr confirms that | 18:00 |
Ng | err what | 18:00 |
Ng | just popped it out of the dock and now it thinks HDMI-1 and -2 are connected | 18:00 |
* Ng reboots with it out of the dock | 18:00 | |
tjaalton | shiny | 18:00 |
Ng | it shipped with a dock :o | 18:02 |
Ng | right, so this brings me in line with what people were saying on the bug. booted out of the dock and the screen res tool shows three monitors now :/ | 18:03 |
Ng | the same trick of disabling the other displays still works though | 18:04 |
Ng | hmm, I guess I could probably use xrandr to force those devices off | 18:28 |
Ng | I have two issues really, getting it fixed properly in Ubuntu, and making this laptop Just Work Right Now ;) | 18:28 |
tjaalton | it's a driver bug which should be upstreamed :) | 19:03 |
bryce | heya | 19:20 |
bryce | wow, AMD totally blew off this week's call. :-/ | 19:20 |
bryce | well I emailed them the 5 bugs, I guess I can mark them committed. | 19:21 |
bryce | er, confirmed | 19:21 |
bryce | tjaalton: hey do you know anything about a ubuntu fork of wacom-tools? | 19:21 |
superm1 | bryce, any word on them about what's fixed in this release (8-11)? | 19:22 |
superm1 | no bug numbers in their release announce unfortunately this time | 19:22 |
bryce | superm1: none | 19:22 |
superm1 | bryce, .... hopefully this submitting bugs to them turns out a little more productive for upcoming releases then... | 19:23 |
bryce | yeah :-/ | 19:23 |
bryce | actually | 19:23 |
bryce | they *did* say that a bug that we report to them _today_, would only show up in a release uh.. 3? months later | 19:24 |
superm1 | oh that's right, they develop 3 months out | 19:24 |
bryce | anyway, so I wouldn't have expected that this release had any fixes for bugs we've reported | 19:24 |
superm1 | except in extreme circumstances | 19:24 |
superm1 | eg what happened with xorg 1.5 | 19:25 |
* bryce nods | 19:25 | |
tjaalton | bryce: it's not forked, we just wanted a newer version than what debian had | 19:26 |
bryce | not sure how much I can say on a public channel, but they described their typical process and it is *quite* different from what we do | 19:26 |
superm1 | as i understand they won't blindly fix a bug even if it's blatantly obvious unless they reproduce the problem | 19:27 |
bryce | tjaalton: ah | 19:27 |
bryce | it's very interesting to me how different (and faster) FLOSS development process cycles are than ones around microsoft stuff | 19:28 |
bryce | tjaalton: ok, I'm getting complaints from debian about this. I guess that explains what they're talking about. | 19:29 |
tjaalton | bryce: if you mean what ron said on the wacom ml I don't see it as a complaint | 19:30 |
bryce | tjaalton: private email | 19:31 |
tjaalton | i should probably subscribe to it | 19:31 |
tjaalton | oh... | 19:31 |
tjaalton | well he should bump the epoch so we could collaborate better :) | 19:32 |
bryce | I'll suggest that | 19:33 |
tjaalton | i've already done that, but got no reply | 19:35 |
tjaalton | let me do that again | 19:35 |
tjaalton | maybe he'll remember :) | 19:36 |
newz2000 | hi, my goal is to get an external monitor connected to my laptop. I don't kneed to use both at the same time, but when I enable the external monitor it sets the virtual resolution and disables compiz. | 20:38 |
newz2000 | is it possible to have the second monitor and compiz? I have a intel 945 gma video card | 20:43 |
jcristau | when you say "it sets the virtual resolution", what do you mean by "it"? | 20:44 |
tjaalton | clone mode should probably work | 20:44 |
tjaalton | but I think the default is to extend the desktop, and that might break it because of the current limitations | 20:44 |
newz2000 | "it" is the screen resolution applet | 20:44 |
newz2000 | the problem with the clone is that it doesn't show the right resolution | 20:45 |
newz2000 | the laptop is 1280x800 the external is 1280x1024 and the highest clone allows is 1024x768 | 20:45 |
jcristau | put one monitor above the other | 20:45 |
jcristau | then you can have 1280x1824 | 20:45 |
jcristau | and compiz | 20:45 |
jcristau | anything > 2048 and you lose | 20:45 |
newz2000 | ah, so 2048x2048 is ok but 2048x2049 and compiz is off? | 20:46 |
jcristau | yes | 20:46 |
newz2000 | if I upgrade the ram and allow more for use by video will that help? | 20:46 |
jcristau | no | 20:46 |
newz2000 | gotcha | 20:47 |
newz2000 | is it possible to disable the internal screen and use the external at it's native res when its present? | 20:48 |
jcristau | 'xrandr --output LVDS --off; xrandr --output VGA --auto' should do that | 20:49 |
jcristau | assuming the external is vga | 20:49 |
newz2000 | ok, I'll try it out. | 20:49 |
newz2000 | Last question, how do I undo the virtual desktop so that I can have compiz again? | 20:49 |
jcristau | change the Virtual directive in xorg.conf | 20:49 |
jcristau | or remove it | 20:50 |
bryce | for anyone not on distro-team@, looks like focus on Jaunty will be on bug fixing. :-) | 21:03 |
tjaalton | bryce: awww.. :) | 22:22 |
tjaalton | wonder what that'll mean in the real world | 22:31 |
bryce | hopefully should mean fewer blueprint specs this time through, and letting folks work on the bug queue instead | 22:32 |
pwnguin | is distro-team publicly archived? | 22:38 |
tjaalton | as long as it doesn't prevent us from uploading the latest cra^H^H^Hstable versions to the archive | 22:38 |
tjaalton | pwnguin: it isn't | 22:39 |
pwnguin | fun | 22:39 |
tjaalton | I've got xorg-server 1.5.3-1ubuntu1 nearly ready. let's declare that as the final upstream version for jaunty :P | 22:41 |
tjaalton | ok ok, I'll stop now.. bedtime it seems :) | 22:42 |
bryce | heh | 22:43 |
wgrant | Are you sure distro-team isn't publicly archived? Lots of private Canonical stuff is accidentally archived publicly on LP. | 22:47 |
pwnguin | heh | 22:55 |
bryce | wgrant: really? | 23:12 |
wgrant | bryce: Yep... | 23:18 |
Ng | distro-team isn't hosted on LP ;) | 23:45 |
* Ng goes to read the thread, but doesn't expect it will really work out like it sounds | 23:46 | |
* wgrant grumbles at this stuff being private. | 23:47 | |
wgrant | The community exists too, guys. | 23:47 |
jcristau | 'community' is just a nicer word for 'free testers' :) | 23:48 |
Ng | most of distro-team@ really isn't very exciting | 23:50 |
Ng | administrivia and cross-posted meeting minutes mostly | 23:50 |
Ng | If it was juicy I'd subscribe myself, but it's just not ;) | 23:51 |
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