[00:00] <fryguy> storrgie: you can disable network manager if you want
[00:00] <storrgie> how do i set up wireless with wep?
[00:00] <kdog> djalmafilho, hi
[00:00] <storrgie> the place i steal wireless from uses wep lol
[00:00] <djalmafilho> my system clock is 3 hours later, how i can fix it?
[00:00] <fryguy> djalmafilho: set your timezone correctly, and/or don't get UTC mixed up
[00:00] <kdog> djalmafilho,  change your timezone
[00:01] <kdog> lol
[00:01] <djalmafilho> how i set timezone in command
[00:01] <matthias> no idea anyone
[00:01] <mib_q216db> hey whenever i turn my computer on, i have to navigate to the network connection that i use, type my password in and then it will connect.  im on 8.10
[00:01] <storrgie> fryguy: the thing that i guess im most concerned about is that network manager knows the mac of my interfaces... but when i edit the /etc/network/interfaces file i dont know how to put those in...
[00:02] <parkerhiggins> is there any way i can choose between gnash and swfdec if i have both installed?
[00:02] <whitethunder922> fryguy: looks like 2.6.27-7 actually did get installed but it wasn't listed in GRUB as an option, any idea why that might be?
[00:02] <fryguy> storrgie: there is a manpage for the interfaces file that highlights everything you need, and plenty of documentation from other sources.  Keep in mind that debian proper uses the same configuration mechanism so you can tap into that documentation as well
[00:02] <fryguy> whitethunder922: no
[00:03] <dmulholland> hey, does anyone know if they've managed to hack the changes Apple made to the iTunes 7 DAAP? So that other applications can read music from the share?
[00:03] <bastid_raZor> whitethunder922; whatever error you had probably stopped the installer before it could update-grub
[00:03] <bastid_raZor> djalmafilho; dpkg-reconfigure tzdata
[00:03] <chupy> i need help i compile the alsa driver and know i dont have sound... know my sound card isnt detect how can came back when i have sound please help
[00:03] <djalmafilho> bastid_raZor: thanks
[00:03] <whitethunder922> bastid_raZor: ok, so now that the updater thinks it's all updated, how do i get it to try again or revert if it can't upgrade?
[00:04] <fryguy> whitethunder922: try dpkg-reconfigure
[00:04] <bastid_raZor> whitethunder922; in a terminal run sudo update-grub .. see if it lists the new kernel
[00:04] <bastid_raZor> fryguy; fail
[00:05] <edju> network manager never recognizes that there is a wireless connection present.  I have to run iwconfig essid . . .   for it to work.  Any advice appreciated.
[00:05] <Berri> Hello Random people I don't know...
[00:06] <ConstantineXVI> !hello | Berri
[00:06] <whitethunder922> bastid_raZor: i can't find any program called update-grub
[00:06] <captainc> Anyone here use KVM for desktop virtualization? I would use VirtualBox, but I want SMP.
[00:06] <rootrot> Hi,the latest ubuntu update(im not sure which one because i didint look) has left my other computer without the internet and it crashes at boot time.
[00:06] <Jeremy93283> Hi
[00:06] <Jeremy93283> How do I format my SD card in ubuntu as FAT, NOT FAT32/FAT16?
[00:06] <fryguy> rootrot: probably easiest to reinstall old version.
[00:07] <bastid_raZor> whitethunder922; what did you type and what is the error.
[00:07] <mib_q216db> hey whenever i turn my computer on, i have to navigate to the network connection that i use,click it, then type my password in and then it will connect.  im on 8.10
[00:07] <bastid_raZor> fryguy; if you don't know the answer. DON'T answer.
[00:07] <ghost3> I have firestarter running and I keep getting request to port 43497 from LOTS of ip address..any ideal what port 43497 is? I googled it with no results
[00:07] <fryguy> bastid_raZor: I do know the answer
[00:07] <root> this the ubuntu channel
[00:07] <ConstantineXVI> ghost3: running a bittorrent client?
[00:08] <whitethunder922> bastid_raZor: i think i discovered the error... looks like 8.10 installed LILO and destroyed GRUB, so reinstalling now...
[00:08] <chupy> i need help i compile the alsa driver and know i dont have sound... know my sound card isnt detect how can came back when i have sound please help
[00:08] <bastid_raZor> fryguy; so a reinstall is easier than fixing the current issue. right.
[00:08] <djalmafilho> how to works my broadcom wireless, i have kernel 2.6.27.4 with b43 and b43legacy module compiled!
[00:08] <ghost3> ConstantineXVI not running
[00:08] <kdog> !root | root
[00:08] <fryguy> bastid_raZor: that seems to be the general consensus for most hardware related issues that people are having because of the upgrade to 8.10, yes.
[00:08] <ghost3> root im usin
[00:08] <kdog> lol
[00:09] <ghost3> root im using ubuntu...thats why im asking if ubuntu is using port 43497 for anything
[00:09] <fryguy> bastid_raZor: 8.10 has rendered more than a couple of systems useless or nearly so after the upgrade
[00:09] <Guest77234> if this is the ubuntu channel can anyone tell me if ubuntu supports radeon hd 2400 cause i can't get it to work right on suse 11 kde 3.5 so i was gonna switch to ubuntu
[00:09] <chupy> please someone help me
[00:09] <chupy> i need help i compile the alsa driver and know i dont have sound... know my sound card isnt detect how can came back when i have sound please help
[00:09] <bastid_raZor> fryguy; that i agree with.
[00:09] <fryguy> Guest77234: it doesn't seem to support it under 8.10, works on 8.04 however
[00:09] <KableKiB> next
[00:09] <KableKiB> !next
[00:10] <KableKiB> !pb
[00:10] <rootrot> how do i check what version of ubuntru im running?
[00:10] <ConstantineXVI> ghost3: AFAIK, ubuntu doesn't have anything open by default; pop open your BT client and see what port it's set to
[00:10] <something> has anyone gotten the madwifi driver to work on ubuntu 8.10?
[00:10] <kdog> rootrot,  uname -r
[00:10] <erUSUL> !version | rootrot
[00:10] <something> I've been using the ath5k from the backports but the connection speed is terrible
[00:10] <ConstantineXVI> something: for what atheros?
[00:10] <kdog> oh my bad
[00:11] <chupy> i need help i compile the alsa driver and i dont have sound... know my sound card isnt detect how can came back when i have sound please help
[00:11] <djalmafilho> how to do my wifi broadcom works?
[00:11] <grendal_prime> gnome blows
[00:11] <something> ConstantineXVI, I don't know, how do I find that out?
[00:11] <grendal_prime> sorry but it does
[00:11] <mib_q216db> hey whenever i turn my computer on, i have to navigate to the network connection that i use, type my password in and then it will connect.  im on 8.10
[00:11] <Jeremy93283> Can you format as FAT in ubuntu?
[00:12] <fryguy> grendal_prime: thankfully there are plenty of other options for graphical user interfaces to pick from.  Try one of those
[00:12] <ConstantineXVI> rootrot: system -> about ubuntu
[00:12] <Guest77234> ty fryguy i do appreciate the advice have a good night
[00:12] <ConstantineXVI> Jeremy93283: have gparted installed?
[00:12] <temppy> Jeremy93283: sure, just use something like gparted I think
[00:12] <Jeremy93283> Yes I do
[00:12] <grendal_prime> i like kde ive been using it for 4 years
[00:12] <Jeremy93283> But they just have fat32/fat16 coming up
[00:12] <Aeolien> Jeremy93283: That will work for you then
[00:12] <grendal_prime> mostly on pure debian
[00:12] <Jeremy93283> I want FAT
[00:12] <ghost3> ConstantineXVI bittorrent is listing on port 51413.. im getting hit after hit for access to port 43497 by lots of people.
[00:12] <ConstantineXVI> Jeremy93283: what do you need just FAT for?
[00:13] <temppy> Jeremy93283: I think those are fat, but are you talking about something unusual?
[00:13] <fryguy> ghost3: it's possible that you have a dynamically assigned IP and the previous owner of your IP was running bittorrent on that port
[00:13] <chupy> noene help me ¬¬ i need help i compile the alsa driver and i dont have sound... know my sound card isnt detect how can came back when i have sound please help
[00:13] <something> ConstantineXVI, looks like AR5BXB63 (AR5006x)
[00:13] <Aeolien> Jeremy93283: Do you want the original 12-bit version?
[00:13] <Jeremy93283> ConstantineXVI - SD card for my camera
[00:13] <ConstantineXVI> Jeremy93283: easiest way would be to have your camera format it
[00:13] <Jeremy93283> My camera doesnt detect my memory card
[00:13] <Jeremy93283> Its an 8GB SDHC card
[00:13] <Jeremy93283> It worked before
[00:13] <Jeremy93283> Now I'm trying to get it to work again
[00:14] <Out_Cold> how do i find my cdrom's /dev/ location?
[00:14] <ConstantineXVI> Jeremy93283: SDHC has to be FAT32
[00:14] <mgolisch> Jeremy93283: maybe you formated it the wrong way
[00:14] <chupy> hey does someone see my messages?
[00:14] <mgolisch> some cameras expect the whole device to be formated with a filesystem
[00:14] <mgolisch> ie dont have partitions at all
[00:14] <ghost3> fryguy good ideal, I am on dialup...why can't I find info for port 43497 in google and no results for bittorent though?
[00:14] <temppy> chupy: I see you
[00:14] <Jeremy93283> mgolisch - Formatted it the wrong way?
[00:14] <Out_Cold> yes chupy we all see.... be patient mate.
[00:15] <chupy> ok sorry
[00:15] <fryguy> ghost3: bittorrent doesn't default to that port.  Most bittorrent clients pick a very high port at random
[00:15] <Jeremy93283> ConstantineXVI - OK I formatted the card as FAT32. My Ubuntu detects it, but when I put it in my camera it doesnt detect it, even when I'm trying to format it in camera it doesnt detect it.
[00:15] <napoleon> hi guys, i messed around with session properties, changing window-manager to something else, and now I regret it and want to change it back to default. Is there a way to get the default install session properties back?
[00:15] <mgolisch> Jeremy93283: did you create partitions on it?
[00:15] <ConstantineXVI> Jeremy93283: do you have another machine running something else to check it in?
[00:16] <Jeremy93283> mgolisch - No i just formatted it
[00:16] <Jeremy93283> mgolisch - how do I add partitions?
[00:16] <ghost3> fryguy ok thanks. should I keep blocking that port or open it? :D
[00:16] <napoleon> oh, nvm. i just need to delete the .gnome stuff
[00:16] <fryguy> ghost3: doesn't matter
[00:16] <snolahc> Hello World !
[00:16] <ConstantineXVI> Jeremy93283: formatting it to fat32 puts a partition on it
[00:16] <ConstantineXVI> !hello | snolahc
[00:16] <mgolisch> Jeremy93283: usualy you dont have to do that
[00:16] <Jeremy93283> ...
[00:16] <mgolisch> windows for example formats the whole thing
[00:17] <mgolisch> without creating partitions on it
[00:17] <orangutanonstilt> hi room
[00:17] <mgolisch> maybe the camera expects it to be like that
[00:17] <Lta> snolahc, exit(42);   :)
[00:17] <mib_q216db> when i boot up i have to navigate to and click on my wlan0 connection then give my password to connect, how o i make it automatic
[00:17] <ConstantineXVI> Jeremy93283: find a windows machine or some other piece of hardware, see if they recognize it at all
[00:17] <Jeremy93283> I dont have one...
[00:17] <mercutio22> hi
[00:17] <Biophile> I keep receiving an error when I install things: system-tools-backends
[00:17] <Jeremy93283> I have windows 98
[00:17] <Jeremy93283> Would that detect the thing?
[00:17] <devi> I will try
[00:18] <mercutio22> Am I the only one without animated progress bars?
[00:18] <ConstantineXVI> Jeremy93283: probably, if it detects any other usb drive
[00:18] <Jeremy93283> ConstantineXVI: I have a Mac and it detects the card
[00:18] <grizlo42> hi i want to set up my desktop to have different images as wallpaper for each workspace
[00:19] <ConstantineXVI> Jeremy93283: okay, card seems fine.  have you checked any other cards in that camera?
[00:19] <grizlo42> but i still want icons on the desktop
[00:19] <grizlo42> i can use compiz
[00:19] <grizlo42> is this possible?
[00:19] <mgolisch> if it worked before you must have done something different this time
[00:19] <matthias> hi, how can i know how my computer feels and if all drivers are okey for the computer ...
[00:19] <erUSUL> mib_q216db: install libpam-gnome-keyring
[00:19] <Jeremy93283> ConstantineXVI: I dont have any
[00:20] <orangutanonstilt> I've searched the forums but can't find an answer to a problem. My scanner seems to be getting 'stuck at one end of the scan cycle' i.e. it should bring the scan head back to the rest position but it doesn't, it doesn't finish the scan cycle either, the scanner however works fine under redmond, my scanner is a UMAX astra 2100
[00:20] <ConstantineXVI> matthias: does everything work?  the drivers are okay
[00:20] <Aeolien> matthias: Do you have Ubuntu installed already?
[00:20] <mgolisch> Jeremy93283: but the exact same card worked before?
[00:20] <caiphn> What torrent client does someone recommend for Ubuntu? I'm running 8.10.
[00:20] <erUSUL> caiphn: deluge
[00:20] <fryguy> caiphn: i prefer rtorrent
[00:20] <mgolisch> deluge!
[00:20] <Aeolien> matthias: If not, try out a live cd. If so, simply try using your devices.
[00:20] <mgolisch> yeah or rtorrent + screen
[00:20] <mgolisch> :)
[00:20] <bsusa> hello
[00:20] <ConstantineXVI> caiphn: i like transmission, which ubuntu ships with
[00:20] <mercutio22> animated bars please! https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gtk2-engines/+bug/18671
[00:20] <Out_Cold> how do i find out what my cdrom is mapped as? ie /dev/hdc or something
[00:20] <caiphn> Two Deluge, one RTorrent. ... and one transmission. Thanks for advice!
[00:21] <chupy> i need help i compile the alsa driver and i dont have sound... know my sound card isnt detect how can came back when i have sound please help
[00:21] <mib_q216db> when i boot up i have to navigate to and click on my wlan0 connection then give my password to connect, how do i make it automatic
[00:21] <erUSUL> ls -l /dev/cdrom*
[00:21] <erUSUL> mib_q216db: install libpam-gnome-keyring
[00:21] <matthias> ConstantineXVI:  yes but after seeing for a while on youtube the system is going slower and the cpu resourses used according to system monitors tells me 80 % and i can barely see anything in youtube without the screen is like lagging ...
[00:21] <Jeremy93283> mgolisch: Yes
[00:22] <grizlo42> oh and im running gnome
[00:22] <Biophile> I keep getting an error at the end of an installation, but the install works: system-tools-backends
[00:22] <grizlo42> not kubuntu
[00:22] <matthias> ConstantineXVI:  and the cpu fans goes in full speed when i have problems ...
[00:22] <mgolisch> Jeremy93283: how did you format it?
[00:22] <mgolisch> Jeremy93283: manualy? using mkfs?
[00:22] <Jeremy93283> Gparted
[00:22] <mgolisch> i see
[00:22] <Biophile> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[00:23] <mib_q216db> erusul.  ill do that, does it come with 8.10? can i just have it install auto from synaptic
[00:23] <matthias> Aeolien:  already installed hade similar problem in hardy, guessing gthe adobe flash player have to do with it but i am not sure ...
[00:23] <Biophile> should I be concerned?
[00:23] <bsusa> could someone please tell me which TV Tuner card is the best compatable one for Mythbuntu 8.04, and the remote control 100% compatable?
[00:23] <mgolisch> id try to intialize it with a new empty dos disklabel and format the whole device with fat32
[00:23] <erUSUL> mib_q216db: yes
[00:23] <mgolisch> some cameras expect it that way
[00:23] <mgolisch> and windows formats them like that too
[00:23] <Meshach> scunizi: How do you use gedit to create a script?
[00:23] <espacious> hello, i used to connect to my AP with my usb adapetr in Ubuntu since i upgraded(reinstalled) i cant make it work. it works via ndiswrapper and need a sis driver i setuped all right but when i try to manualy connect to my ap the network manager or better the whole pc frezes.can please someone assist me a bit?
[00:23] <mib_q216db> erusul why do i have to, what it it? thanks for the help
[00:24] <mib_q216db> is
[00:24] <Felyk> #ubuntu-br
[00:24] <espacious> ist an TrendNet TEW-424UB v.2
[00:24] <erUSUL> mib_q216db: it unlocks all passwords including the wifi one when you log in
[00:24] <Jeremy93283> mgolisch: How do you initialize it with a new empty dos disklabel?
[00:24] <mib_q216db> ok thank you
[00:25] <b3ta> hi,can u remove  apackage completly using apt-get?
[00:25] <grizlo42> i am thinking of buying a dell 530N, and I want to get a graphics card to go with it, since they do not include it any more cause there isn't support for HD yet.  what type of slot does the 530 have? pci, pci x16?
[00:26] <mgolisch> Jeremy93283: overwrite the first 512byte with zeros then call fdisk on it and just save, create no partitions, then use mkfs.vfat -F32 on the whole device
[00:26] <chupy> i need help i compile the alsa driver and i dont have sound... know my sound card isnt detect how can came back when i have sound please help
[00:26] <Meshach> Does anyone know how to use gedit to create a script??
[00:26] <Jeremy93283> mgolisch: Are there instructions somewhere to do all this?
[00:27] <mgolisch> no idea
[00:27] <fryguy> Meshach: run gedit, write the script, save the file...
[00:27] <Aeolien> meshach: Don't forget to make the script executable.
[00:27] <peary> following https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallLirc/Hardy using my remote shows up in the "irw" output but is not recognized by applications, even after using the lircrc generator
[00:27] <Meshach> fryguy: I mean using the terminal
[00:27] <Meshach> Aeolien: Thanks. :)
[00:28] <chupy> i need help i compile the alsa driver and i dont have sound... know my sound card isnt detect how can came back when i have sound please help
[00:28] <fryguy> Meshach: gedit is a graphical application.  What do you mean?
[00:28] <Jeremy93283> mgolisch: How do you zero out on ubuntu and how do you call fdisk on it and just save?
[00:28] <peary> Meshach, gedit doesn't use the terminal, try nano instead
[00:28] <James_UK> any grub experts in the house please ?
[00:28] <Meshach> peary, fryguy: Thanks for the info.
[00:29] <peary> !ask | James_UK
[00:29] <profanephobia> Hi all, I'm trying to setup mobile broadband over bluetooth and cant get networkManager to find the device
[00:29] <chupy> i need help i compile the alsa driver and i dont have sound... know my sound card isnt detect how can came back when i have sound please help
[00:30] <Aeolien> James_UK: What are you having an issue with?
[00:30] <James_UK> booting WinXP
[00:30] <Aeolien> James_UK: Are you trying to install xp over ubuntu?
[00:30] <mgolisch> Jeremy93283: maybe easier would be to use gparted, delete the existing partition on it, then quit gparted, unplug and plug back in, note the devicename and thenn call sudo mkfs.vfat -I -F32 /dev/yourdevicehere
[00:31] <thomas> ubottu and all others: Does a channel exist covering ubuntu-eee?
[00:31] <Jeremy93283> ok
[00:31] <mgolisch> Jeremy93283: but be very cautious to make sure you use the right device, you might screw up some other hardisk or something if you use the wrong device file here
[00:31] <opiemsith1> can somebody tell me why the icons in the taskbar are sometimes replaced by blue squared in kde4?
[00:31] <kdog> ho do i use remote desktop?
[00:31] <kdog> how*
[00:32] <chupy> i need help i compile the alsa driver and i dont have sound... know my sound card isnt detect how can came back when i have sound please help
[00:32] <profanephobia> Hi all, I'm trying to setup mobile broadband over bluetooth and cant get networkManager to find the device
[00:32] <Meshach> fryguy: I tried to save a file in a folder owned by root and it says I don't have permission.
[00:32] <fryguy> Meshach: so then save the file as root, or save it to a different directory
[00:33] <fryguy> Meshach: if the directory is owned by root you probably shouldn't be putting things there
[00:33] <Meshach> fryguy: How do I save the file as root? Also, it has to be in the same folder
[00:33] <thomas> @all: Does anybody know a channel covering ubuntu-eee
[00:33] <fryguy> Meshach: like i said, you are probably working with the wrong directory because of some misconception you have.  to work as root, use sudo or gksu
[00:33] <Jeremy93283> mgolisch: Still nothing...
[00:33] <eviking5> i have a dual boot Win XP / Ubuntu 8.10 on my laptop. Now I suddenly need to be able to run Kubuntu 8.04 for a work project. I really don't need the Win partition anymore... Is it possible to install Kubuntu 8.04 without touching/ruining my Ubuntu 8.10 partition. And have dual boot Ubu 8.10 / Kubu 8.04 (and maybe a small XP)
[00:34] <Meshach> fryguy: How do I use sudo when I'm in the graphical application: gedit?
[00:34] <fryguy> Meshach: use gksu, as i just mentioned
[00:34] <grizlo42> ok well nvm then....
[00:34] <grizlo42> *sigh*
[00:34] <dimension128> Anyone interested in trying to help me troubleshoot why I can see the workgroups but no computers (including myself) for the samba shares? Everyone else can access my shares. Newly installed Ubuntu 8.10, samba and smbfs both installed.
[00:34] <grizlo42> i guess ill have to figure it out myself
[00:34] <Meshach> fryguy: I'm so sorry for my complete ignorance but how do I use gksu?
[00:34] <peary> Meshach, gksudo
[00:34] <kansan> desktop-igloo ~/workspace/emptyspace/vendor: svn propset svn:externals openx https://svn.openx.org/openx/tags/2.6/openx-2.6.3/svn: Setting property on non-local target;   needs a base revision.   ... how do i defeat this evil message?
[00:34] <peary> gksudo gedit
[00:35] <Meshach> peary: ???
[00:35] <peary> kdog, do you want to connect to a remote desktop, or let others connect to yours?
[00:35] <chupy> 3:13] Pantoja dice:
[00:35] <chupy> el k755 secret
[00:35] <chupy> [18:33:15] Pantoja dice:
[00:35] <chupy> el q sale en la tv
[00:35] <FloodBot3> chupy: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:35] <Meshach> peary: please go more in depth
[00:35] <peary> Meshach, in console type "gksudo gedit"
[00:35] <chupy> i need help i compile the alsa driver and i dont have sound... know my sound card isnt detect how can came back when i have sound please help
[00:36] <legend2440> thomas: #ubuntu-eeepc
[00:36] <peary> !es | chunger
[00:36] <peary> oops
[00:36] <peary> !es | chupy
[00:36] <thomas> @legend2240: thanks! :-)
[00:36] <Meshach> peary: Thank you it worked1
[00:37] <chupy> spanish channel dont help they dont know
[00:37] <peary> chupy, can you try to explain in english?
[00:37] <chupy> yes
[00:38] <chupy> i need help i compile the alsa driver and i dont have sound... know my sound card isnt detect how can came back when i have sound please help
[00:38] <peary> Meshach, glad to hear, just be careful since when you are running a program as root, it is possible to change or damage system files :)
[00:38] <kdog> peary, im trying to connect to my friends ubuntu system to help him out
[00:38] <rootrot> how do i undo the last update in ubuntu?
[00:38] <Meshach> peary: Yes, I am aware of that and am taking precautionary measures. :)
[00:38] <panfist> i am trying to get sound in mplayer. i know which device from aplay -l i want to use but i dont know the proper suboptions to put in mplayer -ao alsa:dont know what goes here
[00:38] <fryguy> rootrot: you restore your backup
[00:39] <[T]ank> is it possible to have a command that should be run by root be automatically run for any users that logs in? I would want it to be run just after they enter in their user name and password and their session starts up.
[00:39] <[T]ank> if so, how can i do that?
[00:39] <mwilson_> hey guys..   this is silly..  but I'm used to sabayon..
[00:39] <rootrot> fryguy: and if you dont have a backup?
[00:40] <mwilson_> why won't it take my password when going into superuse  (su command)
[00:40] <AkariChan> question; is there a way to back up the system with compression as an image other than the traditional tar method?
[00:40] <fryguy> rootrot: out of luck, short of manually grabbing the list of packages, apt-src'ing them and recompiling the previous versions and manually reinstalling them one by one
[00:40] <EJ> [T]ank: did ndiswrapper work out for you ?
[00:40] <mwilson_> I don't like typing sudo and entering password every time.
[00:40] <Meshach> peary: I try to open the app I just made with python and it's in a folder owned by root and it says permission denied...
[00:40] <fryguy> mwilson_: use sudo, not su
[00:40] <AkariChan> !backup
[00:40] <Meshach> Anyone know what sudo stands for?
[00:40] <fryguy> Meshach: super user do
[00:40] <[T]ank> EJ: wasnt trying anything with ndiswrapper. all of my devices work very nicely.
[00:41] <dimension128> rootrot: in synaptic you can use the force version option, if the older version of the package in question is still available.
[00:41] <Meshach> fryguy: Cool, thanks!
[00:41] <mwilson_> fryguy I'd rather not...   lots of commands and having to type the pass over and over.
[00:41] <peary> kdog, try internet -> remote desktop viewer, if it's not there install with add/remove
[00:41] <fryguy> mwilson_: so then sudo su
[00:41] <AkariChan> !cloning
[00:41] <mwilson_> lol..  that will work?
[00:41] <peary> Meshach, can you put the script in your home directory or a subdirectory?
[00:41] <AkariChan> !sbackup
[00:41] <fryguy> mwilson_: of course it will, why wouldn't it
[00:41] <eviking5> i have a dual boot Win XP / Ubuntu 8.10 on my laptop. Now I suddenly need to be able to run Kubuntu 8.04 for a work project. I really don't need the Win partition anymore... Is it possible to install Kubuntu 8.04 without touching/ruining my Ubuntu 8.10 partition. And have dual boot Ubu 8.10 / Kubu 8.04 (and maybe a small XP)
[00:41] <giacomo> helloo
[00:41] <fryguy> eviking5: yes
[00:41] <peary> chupy, ahh ok, keep repeating your question and hopefully someone will know the answer :)
[00:41] <mplsleprechaun> can someone tell me how to delete grub? i have a gateway laptop that had windows on it, i installed ubuntu because a friend told me about it. i didnt like it so i tried to reinstall windows and it says it cant find a compatible hard drive. so my question; how do i get rid of grub so i can install windows again?
[00:42] <giacomo> I've got a problem "Cannot mix incompatible Qt libraries"
[00:42] <Meshach> peary: Unfortunately no, not without a lot of hassle.
[00:42] <fryguy> mstrobert: put yoru windows installation media in and run fixmbr from it's recovery console
[00:42] <cgillogly> question: anyone know why GVFS makes files read-only when i connect to a server using www-data, but when i connect to another server (using root because of the retarded previous admin) it doesn't do that ... the permissions on the dir and files i'm trying to edit from are correct, 755 & 644 (dir / file)... server is hardy and client is ibex
[00:42] <eviking5> fryguy: great. it wont ruin my existing MBR?
[00:42] <mwilson_> tis odd.  didn't reqire that for gentoo.
[00:42] <Meshach> peary: in my python script is there a way to login as root before opening the app?
[00:42] <fryguy> eviking5: of course it will, that's kind of the point
[00:42] <chupy> i have here 2 hours and nobody answrs me
[00:42] <peary> Meshach, idk anything about python :)
[00:43] <peary> chupy, have you been to ubuntuforums.org ? that is a good place to search and post
[00:43] <zafirex> Hey all.. just installed Intrepid, and now Xorg doesn't recognize a keyboard/mouse.  Can still switch back to terminal with CTL-Alt-F1.  Looks like there's no keyboard description file in /usr/X11R6.  Any ideas on how to reinstall the files?
[00:43] <fryguy> chupy: i was here 14 hours yesterday and didn't get any of my issues resolved.
[00:43] <matthias> what does this means: (WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x61
[00:43] <chupy> but maybe someone responf you XD
[00:44] <chupy> *responde
[00:44] <fryguy> chupy: nothing helpful
[00:44] <verne> www.planetwebspace.net/linux.html - anyone know the answer?
[00:44] <verne> its a question..
[00:44] <chupy> here nobody but i will wait
[00:44] <eviking5> fryguy: hmm. ok. can I just install the new distro the usual way, grab half of my XP partition and use for it, and after installation, i can boot into XP, 8.10 and 8.04?
[00:44] <fryguy> eviking5: right
[00:45] <mwilson_> thanks fryguy
[00:45] <eviking5> fryguy: great. thanks a lot for helping out!
[00:45] <verne> To mount directories automatically when booting (such as the home directories of a server), you need to make corresponding entries in the file ____.
[00:45] <verne> a. /etc/fstab c. /mnt/config
[00:45] <verne> b. /etc/mount d. /etc/rc.d/config
[00:45] <fryguy> verne: a
[00:45] <inflex> When the -hell- will Ubuntu stop messing with my Firefox paper size and margins! *ARUGH*
[00:45] <mercutio22> guys, my ubuntu does not display animated progress bars like every other ubuntu pc. Can someone help me find a fix for it?
[00:45] <ivan> does this look like vmware tools is responsible for the e1000 crash? http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/8413/e1000crashmaybese0.png < does that loo
[00:45] <inflex> Anyone else having troubles with paper-size margins on NON-US machines (eg, A4 paper)
[00:46] <Meshach> peary: Thanks for your help anyway. :)
[00:46]  * inflex sets his paper, margins... works fine until Ubuntu does a particular update and -wham-, it's reverted back to US Letter *curse*
[00:46] <caiphn> Hello everyone. Another question: I'm noticing right now when downloading media plug-ins that my transfer rates are awful, anywhere from about half a k to up to 15k a second. This is a lot slower than the other machines in my house, is there anything I should be checking?
[00:46] <manolo> on my wifi air station usb when start searching n connecting onmy local network the entire operation frezz ...any idea
[00:47] <profanephobia> Hi all, I'm trying to setup mobile broadband over bluetooth and cant get networkManager to find the device
[00:47] <verne> after modifying /etc/fstab, what command makes the system read the changes?
[00:47] <hellmitre> hai
[00:47] <Aeolien> verne: mount -a
[00:47] <hellmitre> verne, you just save the new copy back to /etc/ and reboot X
[00:48] <verne> thx Aeolien
[00:48] <hellmitre> hai
[00:48] <J-_> Currently I'm in Ubuntu 8.04 and can't view ustream streams. IS there anyway to fix this problem? It has happened to me once already on another install. Intrepid worked fine with ustream too.
[00:49] <Aeolien> Hello hellmitre, can we help you with anything?
[00:49] <J-_> I have flash installed.
[00:49] <zafirex> Any ideas on how to reinstall keyboard description files for Xorg?
[00:50] <hellmitre> actually, Aeolien I'm just trying to figure out BitchX
[00:50] <hellmitre> :\
[00:50] <hellmitre> sorry
[00:50] <fryguy> hellmitre: bitchx is old and development has stopped for it, you should consider another choice
[00:50] <panfist> does anyone know how i can recompile my kernel with a larger pagesize?
[00:50] <chupy> i need help i compile the alsa driver and i dont have sound... know my sound card isnt detect how can came back when i have sound please help
[00:51] <hellmitre> fryguy, what would you recommend for terminal irc client?
[00:51] <fryguy> panfist: download the kernel sources, run make config (or menuconfig), make the applicable changes, and follow make-kpkg directions to make a .deb out of it and install
[00:51] <hellmitre> I mean I use Xchat but this is fun and archaic
[00:51] <fryguy> hellmitre: irssi
[00:52] <hellmitre> alright
[00:52] <panfist> fryguy i will give it a shot
[00:52] <hellmitre> irssi is newer and more maintained?
[00:52] <fryguy> hellmitre: right
[00:52] <panfist> fryguy i am trying to build a raid5 array with 4x 1TB drives and 4kb seems like too small of a block size
[00:52] <chupy> i need help i compile the alsa driver and i dont have sound... know my sound card isnt detect how can came back when i have sound please help
[00:52] <fryguy> panfist: that has nothing to do with your pagesize
[00:53] <profanephobia> Hi all, I'm trying to setup mobile broadband over bluetooth and cant get networkManager to find the device
[00:53] <matthias> anyone know how to check helt on intrepid and find problems
[00:53] <matthias> sorry helth
[00:54] <csilk> *health
[00:54] <csilk> matthias, what exactly do you mean by "health"?
[00:54] <panfist> fryguy isnt the answer yes and no? you divide the array into chunks which can be a multiple of your page size, but you still have to put a filesystem on the raid array which can have blocks no bigger than the page size...right?
[00:54] <fryguy> panfist: page size has nothing to do with block size on a block device
[00:54] <panfist> fryguy i mean divide the array into stripes
[00:54] <ldiamond> I need getting my Ipod to work on Ubuntu 8.10
[00:54] <zetheroo> can someone tell me where the ath5k package is?
[00:54] <panfist> fryguy every where i read it says that the maximum block size of a file system is the page size of the kernel
[00:54] <Odd-rationale> !ipod | ldiamond
[00:54] <matthias> csilk:  my computer is dragging after a while of usage and i have high cpu usage on my dual core laptop
[00:55] <fryguy> panfist: that is incorrect
[00:55] <ldiamond> nice
[00:55] <ldiamond> google didnt help on this one
[00:55] <panfist> fryguy for example ext2 ext3 and xfs support block size greater than 4k but you must recompile the kernel with a larger page size because the default page size is 4k
[00:55] <Rolcol> Is ubuntu 8.10 supposed to be the newest software?  I see a lot of updates.
[00:55] <fryguy> Rolcol: no
[00:56] <caiphn> Anyone have any idea on this? When I first restart the machine, it auto connects to my wireless network and it shows the bars at the top .. then about 5-10 minutes later, the bars disappear altogether and my wireless usb adaptors light goes out
[00:56] <fryguy> Rolcol: it's a collection of packages that the maintainers of the distribution deemed stable for release
[00:56] <mib_rk5m9i> fryguy: What is the latest ubuntu you can get hands on?
[00:56] <fryguy> mib_rk5m9i: 8.10 is the latest release version.  There are beta versions for 9.04 floating around if you want to track those
[00:56] <caiphn> I'm running 8.10
[00:56] <csilk> zetheroo, not included in the intrepid repo I'm affraid
[00:56] <panfist> fryguy could you please explain because i am very confused now
[00:56] <mib_rk5m9i> fryguy: Thank you, i was looking for that 9.04 stuff.
[00:56] <Ajuna> For a new 8.10 kubuntu user, where can I found the package for screensavers?
[00:57] <zafirex> Any ideas on how to reinstall keyboard description files for Xorg?  Or other pointers on troubleshooting a dead keyboard in X?
[00:57] <skylarS> where is hostname stored?  there is no /etc/sysconfig/network not an /etc/hosts ...
[00:57] <zetheroo> csilk: thanks ... its actually a module ... and its in  linux-backports-modules-intrepid
[00:57] <fryguy> panfist: page size is a function of virtual memory management.  It has nothing to do with blocks of data on a storage medium
[00:57] <skylarS> where is hostname stored?  there is no /etc/sysconfig/network nor an /etc/hosts ...
[00:57] <mib_rk5m9i> zafirex: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[00:57] <skylarS> sorry for the repeat but the first had ambiguous meaning...
[00:57] <ldiamond> I need help syncing my Ipod using Amarok.
[00:57] <csilk> zetheroo, sprry, my bad. I was just about to say it is in intrepid backports
[00:58] <georgy_28> skylarS, : /etc/hostname
[00:58] <skylarS> georgy_28, nothing tab-completes host
[00:58] <profanephobia> Hi all, I'm trying to setup mobile broadband over bluetooth and cant get networkManager to find the device
[00:58] <skylarS> georgy_28, my bad
[00:59] <skylarS> georgy_28, thanks, I should have just used grep or locate I suppose
[00:59] <RyanPrior> In a video game, I want to redirect the letter "q" to numpad 7 since the game never uses q but frequently uses numpad 7, and the latter is a pain to reach for. Can somebody tell me how to do that?
[00:59] <panfist> fryguy: from http://oss.sgi.com/projects/xfs/ the maximum block size is 4k which is the page size of the kernel
[00:59] <GOE> hi people
[00:59] <GOE> please, could someone help me?
[00:59] <panfist> fryguy "So, XFS supports filesystem block sizes up to 64 kilobytes (from 512 bytes, in powers of 2), when the kernel page size allows it. "
[00:59] <[T]ank> anyone know how to make the live cd installation on a usb disk not prompt for language? I just want it to default to english and I am trying to find the file to edit to make that happen. Ive made all the other changes I want except that one.
[01:00] <zafirex> mib_rk5m91: Thx, trying
[01:00] <GOE> please could someone help about using 64 bits?
[01:00] <panfist> goe what do you need to know
[01:00] <GOE> yes please
[01:00] <GOE> I've now installed ubuntu 32 bits
[01:00] <peary> panfist, you are both talking about different meanings for "page size"
[01:01] <caiphn> Anyone have any idea on this? When I first restart the machine, it auto connects to my wireless network and it shows the bars at the top .. then about 5-10 minutes later, the bars disappear altogether and my wireless usb adaptors light goes out.. I know I just asked this, is there a forum I should try or another way to try to get help for this? It's a bit hard to search for this as there are
[01:01] <caiphn> a few variables involved.
[01:01] <GOE> but I want to use 64 bits
[01:01] <fryguy> GOE: so reinstall
[01:01] <Odd-rationale> caiphn: try ubuntuforums.org
[01:01] <panfist> peary well what other page size would require me to recompile the kernel
[01:01] <Aeolien> GOE: They are fundamentally different. Reinstalling is the easiest way to switch.
[01:01] <caiphn> Odd-rationale: Thanks.
[01:01] <GOE> I've seen on the internet some problems and incompabilites that it can bring
[01:02] <GOE> but I don't know how it's going these days
[01:02] <peary> panfist, fryguy was referring to the page or swap file, which does not really have anything to do with the kernel
[01:02] <GOE> I'd like to know if it has gotten better
[01:02] <fryguy> peary: no i'm not
[01:02] <Aeolien> GOE: A live cd is the best way to do that
[01:03] <panfist> fryguy so can you please elaborate?
[01:03] <matthias> anybody that knows how to troubleshoot in ubuntu like in my case the high cpu load ...
[01:03] <GOE> what's a "live CD"?
[01:03] <Dr_willis> GOE,  ive had very few issues with 64bit - i decided to test it out with the 8.10 release... cant say that ive had Any issues that i can even recall...
[01:03] <Dr_willis> !livecd
[01:03] <peary> fryguy, oh ok, saw you mention virtual memory
[01:03] <Sn0oP_ShAkE> "try before you buy(install)"
[01:04] <GOE> undersootd willis
[01:04] <peary> Dr_willis, the only trouble it gives me is with Java and Flash
[01:04] <skylarS> matthias, install sysstat
[01:04] <zafirex> mib_rk5m91: SUCCESS! Thanks :)
[01:04] <leotrimi> Enter text here.../join #albachat
[01:04] <profanephobia> Hi all, I'm trying to setup mobile broadband over bluetooth and cant get networkManager to find the device
[01:04] <GOE> actually I'm afraid of installing 64 bits and get high problems
[01:04] <matthias> skylarS:  thanks
[01:04] <fryguy> panfist: if you think you know more about the kernel developers and want to tune the page size for your system, then feel free to recompile your kernel and change settings how you want.  They are set the way they are for a reason; if you think you know better feel free to change them.  I told you what you needed to get the kernel sources, how to make changes, and where to look to find directions on recompiling it on debian-based systems.  Is there something 
[01:05] <dewente> how to see an email in  Sent new password to: root@localhost ?
[01:05] <skylarS> matthias, and then iostat within that might help
[01:05] <zafirex> Now to find out if that pesky kernel panic freeze is still there after upgrading from hardy...
[01:05] <dewente>  Sent new password to: root@localhost ? how can i get getting ?
[01:05] <GOE> does is really have a better performance than 32 bits?
[01:05] <fryguy> GOE: no
[01:05] <linxeh> it depends how you defined performance
[01:06] <ldiamond> I cant get my Ipod to work with amarok, can anyone help me
[01:06] <dewente>  Sent new password to: root@localhost    how can i read that ?
[01:06] <FireTalon> login as root
[01:06] <FireTalon> and type pine
[01:06] <GOE> it's about playing some games
[01:06] <fryguy> dewente: log in as root and check the maildir for him using mutt, mailx, thunderbird, or any other mail client you want
[01:06] <Sn0oP_ShAkE> dewente 'sudo mail'
[01:06] <panfist> fryguy you were telling me i was wrong about what a page size is, not that i am messing with dangerous options. i dont want to prove you wrong. but if you are saying i am wrong then educate me please
[01:06] <GOE> Counter strike source, call of duty, quake...
[01:06] <unfo> hi all.  Does xterm come with Ubuntu, or only gnome-terminal does?
[01:06] <zetheroo> how would I know if the ath5k module is loaded and working?
[01:07] <unfo> GOE: could you please repeat your original question?
[01:07] <panfist> fryguy because i hardly want to go off and recompile my kernel if i my whole reason for doing that is based on a false notion
[01:07] <GOE> my processor is an AMD x2 5200
[01:07] <fryguy> panfist: for that filesystem it appears to be limited by some arbitrary kernel setting.  If you really want to go against all recommendations and change the block size, then do that
[01:07] <ubuntu> hola
[01:07] <unfo> !ops please ban ka2u
[01:07] <GOE> yes
[01:07] <zetheroo> anyone?
[01:07] <Belboz99> hey all, anyone here have experience with the Atheros wireless chipsets on 8.10?
[01:07] <zetheroo> Belboz99?: I am working on that at the moment
[01:08] <Belboz99> I need some help getting my wife's laptop back on the wireless
[01:08] <fryguy> panfist: we use XFS on multi-terrabyte iscsi-backed servers at work, and have not run into a scaling problem that warrants changing the block size from the default.  If you feel yours does, then follow my hints for how to do it and go right ahead
[01:08] <unfo> zetheroo:  please have patience.  And never say "anyone?"; instead, repeat your entire question on one long long line.
[01:08] <Belboz99> zetheroo: cool, maybe we can help each other out a little
[01:08] <zetheroo> how do I know if the ath5k module is loaded and working?
[01:08] <zetheroo> Belboz99: sure
[01:08] <GOE> I'd like to know more about 64 bits. Because I've seen on the internet people having problems of incompatibilities when they want to use 32 bits programs
[01:08] <Belboz99> zetheroo: try a dmesg | tail after loading the module
[01:08] <panfist> fryguy well if you say you use the default at work are you running multiterrabyte iscsi backed servers on ubuntu desktop? i doubt it. maybe your kernel already has a larger block size.
[01:08] <fryguy> GOE: so ask a question
[01:09] <fryguy> panfist: it doesn't
[01:09] <panfist> fryguy the issue isnt whether the option should or should not be changed, but you were telling me i had the wrong idea about what the page size was. do i have the wrong idea or not, because you have planted a seed of doubt in my mind now
[01:09] <GOE> ok then
[01:09] <GOE> I'll ask
[01:09] <unfo> GOE: yes.  I recommend 32bit Ubuntu, even if you have a 64bit PC.  It's simpler.
[01:09] <fryguy> panfist: you are right
[01:09] <dewente> hey people many thanks for all that answered !
[01:10] <GOE> ok
[01:10] <zetheroo> Belboz99: http://pastebin.com/m7d43ac05
[01:10] <Odd-rationale> GOE: i'd, too, reccomend using 32bit until your are absolutely conformtable with chroot and stuff like that...
[01:10] <DJ_Mario> whats the difference between 64bit and 32bit ubuntu
[01:10] <zetheroo> Belboz99: that is the output
[01:10] <DJ_Mario> other than the processing capabilities
[01:10] <GOE> I realize that everybody prefer using 32 than 64 due to compab.
[01:10] <Tyrath> has anyone run into this error before: using "DejaVu Sans Mono-16", pixelsize=16.67 file=/usr/share/fonts/truetype/ttf-dejavu/DejaVuSansMono.ttf
[01:10] <matthias> skylarS:  where can i find the program after i insrtalled it
[01:11] <panfist> fryguy the reason i wanted to experiment with a different block size is when i am transferring over 5GB the throughput is steadily 70MB/s until after 5GB has been transfered then the transfer rate steadily declines until about 30MB/s
[01:11] <fryguy> DJ_Mario: one is compiled using a 32-bit compiler for use on the i386 platform, one is compiled with a 64-bit compile for processors that support the amd64 instruction set (or emt64, in the case of intel chips)
[01:11] <zetheroo> Belboz99: generally speaking the wireless capabilities do not seem to function as good as in Hardy ...
[01:11] <skylarS> matthias, open a terminal and run $iostat
[01:11] <DJ_Mario> fryguy: yeah i already knew that
[01:11] <fryguy> panfist: disks aren't univeral speeds
[01:11] <panfist> fryguy i doubt that it takes 5GB of transfers to max out any kind of buffer effects on the transfer. then again i doubt a different page size will help either
[01:11] <Belboz99> zetheroo: agreed :(
[01:11] <fryguy> panfist: it won't help
[01:11] <mellery_> rhythmboxs internet radio and podcast downloading broke for me after an update, how can I fix it please?
[01:12] <matthias> skylarS:  no the sysstat ...
[01:12] <panfist> fryguy so do you have any idea why i have this repeatable effect of the file transfer slowing down after 5GB?
[01:12] <skylarS> matthias, fmi $man iostat   iostat is part of sysstat... i don't know what else if anything sysstat has
[01:12] <zetheroo> Belboz99: when I do lsmod I see ath5k there ... like this : ath5k                 106496  0
[01:12] <fryguy> panfist: because the disk isn't a universal speed, or possibly it's buffering a lot and you are running out of ram and/or disk cache. or the file is fragmented
[01:12] <ubuntu> hola
[01:12] <skylarS> matthias, what exactly are you trying to do again, I just got here
[01:13] <cables_malo> HELP! i sent my X her computer and her wireless dropped out! i cant go there to fix it
[01:13] <ubuntu> hay alguien que sepa español aqui
[01:13] <unfo> ubuntu: hello.  Please change your nickname.  /nick somenewname
[01:13] <Odd-rationale> !es | ubuntu
[01:13] <cables_malo> ndis was installed and working
[01:13] <ubuntu> ok gracias
[01:13] <cables_malo> now it sais no wlan0 is there
[01:13] <Tyrath> does anyone use fbgs?
[01:13] <Tyrath> !fbgs
[01:13] <try2free> hi, how to make custom paper size?
[01:13] <peary> mellery_, did the settings in rhythmbox get erased?
[01:13] <Belboz99> zetheroo: I have the same
[01:13] <DJ_Mario> cables_malo: i was just gonna suggest ndiswrappers too
[01:13] <Bling> hi
[01:13] <zetheroo> Belboz99: basically I am just trying to get the latest Atheros driver installed ... and I heard that ath5k was the way to go ..
[01:14] <andre_pl> I just got my hands on an 8.04 server at racksapce and it cme with a default encoding that is NOT utf8. I've tried everything I can to get rid of it and go back to just otf8 but its not working and postgres will not let me create any utf8 databases as a result. can anyone help?
[01:14] <mellery_> peary: i dont think so, all my music and feeds are still ther
[01:14] <Belboz99> zetheroo: yeah, I've heard similar
[01:14] <cables_malo> DJ_mario: the NDIS was working, but i was on eth0 (cable)
[01:14] <zetheroo> Belboz99: but aside from that I am on wireless right now .. and its working ... I just don't think its working as good as it could or should be
[01:14] <Belboz99> zetheroo: can you scan with your card?
[01:14] <cables_malo> at my house that is
[01:14] <Belboz99> oh?
[01:14] <matthias> skylarS:  i want to figure out what is causing so high cpu usage since the movies clips that i am seeing in youtube seems to be like freezing and the picture is out of sync with the sound in youtube ... and everthing else take like for ages to start when i have high cpu if that is the main casue or anything else ...
[01:14] <Belboz99> better than I've got then :/
[01:14] <cables_malo> i cant go there because she always gives up the puss and then i will be "involved" again
[01:14] <DJ_Mario> cables_malo: i cant think of anything else. sorry
[01:14] <zetheroo> Belboz99: yes .. my card was working from the start ... but it was unstable and dropped out frequently
[01:15] <Ashex> Does ubuntu use ~/.xinitrc?
[01:15] <fryguy> Ashex: no
[01:15] <Belboz99> zetheroo: last time this laptop had a wifi-connection it was estimating 1/2 hour to transfer 200MB of video :(
[01:15] <zetheroo> Belboz99: is your wifes card working at all?
[01:15] <Belboz99> zetheroo: not at all
[01:15] <Ashex> fryguy, what does ubuntu use instead?
[01:15] <Belboz99> zetheroo: it was before the 8.10 upgrade
[01:15] <skylarS> matthias, hmm sounds like video configuration issues
[01:15] <zetheroo> Belboz99: have you made sure that ath5k is not blacklisted?
[01:15] <Bling> how install realplayer ?
[01:15] <pawan> hi
[01:16] <fryguy> Ashex: xinitrc is used from running startx manually.  when using a display manager, there are session files located in various spots depending on distro.  If you want to use the equivalent of .xinitrc when using a display manager, use .xsession and, in the case of ubuntu, use the session for custom xclient script
[01:16] <ardchoille> !realplayer | Bling
[01:16] <matthias> skylarS:  i hope that that is the only thing have ATI mobility radeon x1400 and i have used envy to install the driver and i have the latest driver for my video card ...
[01:16] <Ashex> fryguy, thanks
[01:16] <skylarS> Bling, search "realplayer linux" download, follow instructions
[01:16] <try2free> ubuntu not support for custom paper?
[01:16] <pawan> not able to activate geforce fx 5200 drivers
[01:16] <Belboz99> zetheroo: I get a "resource temporarily unavailable" when doing:  iwlist wlan0 scanning
[01:16] <pawan> on 8.10
[01:17] <skylarS> matthias, envy is like a graphical installer or something?
[01:17] <DJ_Mario> anyone know how to monitor ubuntu during boot up? other than disabling status bar and reading text?
[01:17] <zetheroo> Belboz99: are you trying to use the default driver and module or the ath5k one?
[01:17] <Belboz99> zetheroo: every now and then it picks up the other machine
[01:17] <matthias> skylarS:  yes an installer for nivida and ATI cards
[01:17] <Belboz99> default
[01:17] <Bling> thanks
[01:17] <giacomo> hey support team, I've found a bug in intrepid! How can I help the community now?
[01:17] <Belboz99> zetheroo: we're doing an ad-hoc network, due to lack of Master support on the card in the Router PC
[01:18] <matthias> skylarS:  i suspect that the adobe flash player have something in it to .... i guess ....
[01:18] <fryguy> giacomo: go to launchpad and file a report
[01:18] <DJ_Mario> giacomo: suscribe to the Launchpad IRC and tell them or something like that
[01:18] <DJ_Mario> at least i think Launchpad has an IRC
[01:18] <Belboz99> zetheroo: that one is using a Ralink card, the Server / Router that is
[01:18] <skylarS> matthias, did you download from adobe or use package-man?
[01:18] <zetheroo>  Belboz99: in order to use the ath5k module you have to install linux-backports-modules-intrepid ... have you done this?
[01:18] <giacomo> launchpad irc?
[01:18] <Belboz99> zetheroo: yeah
[01:18] <zetheroo> Belboz99: should not matter what the Router is .
[01:18] <lap> someone know how to disable PulseAudio ?
[01:18] <cables_malo> has anyone had a problem with NDIS on reboot?
[01:18] <matthias> skylarS:  i used synaptic ...
[01:19] <zetheroo> Belboz99: I am going to reboot ... brb
[01:19] <cables_malo> NDIS was working, now there is no wlan0
[01:19] <matthias> cables_malo:  what wlan car do you have ...
[01:19] <Uplink> why does my GEDIT takes AGES to load?
[01:19] <try2free> anyone knows how to get support for printing under ubuntu 8.04?
[01:20] <andre_pl> Can anyone help me to get ubuntu 8.04 server to use ONLY en_US.UTF-8?
[01:20] <cables_malo> 8835 or something... i cant lspci because i dont have the box here
[01:20] <ardchoille> Uplink: You using a weird icon theme? that happened to me when I used the Mac4Lin icon theme but chaning the icons fixed gedit
[01:20] <skylarS> matthias, you could try purging that install of flash and going with the downlad from adobe.. last time I dealt with flash, the apt version didn't even work at all
[01:21] <matthias> skylarS:  thanks i will try ...
[01:21] <Uplink> ardchoille: yea lol
[01:21] <ardchoille> Uplink: you using Mac4Lin ?
[01:21] <matthias> cables_malo:  if you have broadcom you need to look for the work around in that case ...
[01:21] <Uplink> ardchoille: nope...
[01:21] <ardchoille> ok
[01:21] <skylarS> matthias, what kind of cpu/mem are you running with?
[01:21] <skylarS> or how much I should say matthias
[01:22] <matthias> skylarS:  dual core 2G with 2Gb mem
[01:22] <skylarS> Uplink, use vim :P
[01:22] <Uplink> skylarS: i do :)
[01:22] <matthias> skylarS:  something like that ,'...
[01:22] <skylarS> try2free, you have to find instructions for your specific printer likely
[01:22] <zetheroo> I am back
[01:22] <Bling> I want to learn to hack using linux ?
[01:23] <try2free> skylarS: where do i find it?
[01:23] <skylarS> matthias, def has to be video/flash issue I would think
[01:23] <try2free> skylarS: please help, because i need it badly
[01:23] <matthias> skylarS: something like that 2Mhz an 2 Gb memory, i hope so too ...
[01:23] <chainoo> #ubuntu-es
[01:23] <Belboz99> wb zetheroo, I'm compiling the latest ath5k now
[01:23] <matthias> skylarS:  have to go home, thanks for the help ...
[01:24] <Dr_willis> Bling,   the term 'hack' has gotten to be meaningless to most people - its such a buzzword these days..  Go learn to 'program'  is a better idea
[01:24] <ardchoille> dr:)
[01:24] <skylarS> try2free, probably have to use a google search for your model try: ubuntu model    ...maybe cups in the search
[01:24] <Flannel> Bling: There's a number of languages you can learn.  The best way to start participating is to find some software you're interested (or that you enjoy using, etc) and then see what language it uses, and consider learning that language.  A popular language to learn right now (with plenty of documentation) is python, there's two good resources: http://www.python.org/doc/ and http://diveintopython.org/
[01:24] <uND99> Hi"
[01:24] <zetheroo> Belboz99 if the module has the number zero with it does that mean it is not using any hardware? ath5k                 106496  0
[01:25] <cables_malo> ok... i have to explain how to spell "lspci" in her language and she has: Marvell Technology Group Ltd. 88w8335 [Libertas]
[01:25] <wisnut_> anyone able to get wep, key 2 to work in 8.10 for a intelpro 5300?
[01:25] <Belboz99> zetheroo: I'm not sure
[01:25] <skylarS> try2free, what printer?
[01:25] <cables_malo> i installed it with NDIS and it was working... i know i connected to my neighbot
[01:25] <try2free> skylarS: i have driver from cups but not how to customize the paper size. i need for using it in wine. my printer is epson LQ2180
[01:25] <Bling> Well, I want to learn a programming language, but do not know what to chose ?
[01:25] <cables_malo> she unpacked it and it has no wlan0
[01:26] <fryguy> Bling: learn c, or python.
[01:26] <skylarS> try2free, ooo, do you have windows partition?
[01:26] <wisnut_> seeing wlan0, able to scan and see cells, but no connection. . . . .
[01:26] <tecnicodpc> Yea i Know what you saw
[01:26] <Sn0oP_ShAkE> zetheroo, the 0 means 0 other modules using that module iirc
[01:26] <try2free> skylarS: no, i am using wine for my application
[01:26] <Viflux> Bling: Learn how to program, then learn a language.
[01:26] <zetheroo> Sn0oP_ShAkE: so it could be working then ...
[01:26] <zetheroo> ?
[01:26] <skylarS> try2free, try asking the #wine people sounds like a tough problem...
[01:27] <Sn0oP_ShAkE> yes
[01:27] <skylarS> try2free, the printer works in ubuntu?
[01:27] <Flannel> Bling: this question is actually better asked in #ubuntu-offtopic, if you wouldn't mind moving there, it'd be appreciated.
[01:27] <lap> someone know how to disable PulseAudio ?
[01:27] <ardchoille> Bling: Python is really easy to grasp, I'd recommend that
[01:27] <try2free> skylarS: i try already, seems not responding. may be wrong procedure to ask?
[01:28] <Sn0oP_ShAkE> zetheroo, it atleast shows that the module loads fine
[01:28] <lap> i've done the settings in sound pref (gnome) and sessions (startup programs)
[01:28] <pawan> hi
[01:28] <lap> but i still get pulse* running
[01:28] <skylarS> try2free, might have to wait if not much traffic there, I'm a big fan of vmware
[01:28] <pawan> how to install compiz and how to automatically login
[01:28] <Guest43676> test
[01:28] <Guest43676> eekkk
[01:28] <try2free> skylarS: are you ever try to make custom paper size?
[01:28] <skylarS> lap, you might have to change your boot script
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[01:28] <bastid_raZor> +-g,l''';llkdd   y6 oo u; oib9oi  i ioioo o o vu/ivop5r
[01:29] <skylarS> try2free, not really, inside the box maybe but then -> pdf -> someone elses printer
[01:29] <Pici> bastid_raZor: finished?
[01:29] <DJ_Mario> ?
[01:29] <Bling> I want to learn a programming language, but do not know what to chose ????
[01:29] <seronis> question:  in both 8.04 and 8.10 when using the built in remote desktop feature i am unable to type parenthesis in any Wine program andim unable to do ctrl+shift+tab to reverse navigate windows.  it handles as though i merely did ctrl+tab
[01:29] <Belboz99> zetheroo: rebooting
[01:29] <skylarS> Bling, choose python and then go to off-topic
[01:29] <fryguy> Bling: you've already been told 1. some good choices for an initial programming language 2. the correct location to ask that question (hint: not here)
[01:29] <try2free> skylarS: and your customize successfull?
[01:29] <z3ro> hi, could someone confirm whether the ubuntu 8.10 cd includes the e1000e ethernet driver?
[01:30] <bastid_raZor> Pici; that was my daughter. i left xchat in focus while it was suppose to be firefox and her games
[01:30] <Guest43676> kk
[01:30] <FloridaGuy> how do i remove gnome...i upgraded from 7.10 to 8.04 to 8.10....now gnome is screwed up...so i want to uninstall and reinstall it
[01:30] <seronis> is this a known issue of the built in vnc server or is it my client ?
[01:30] <z3ro> I'm trying to find some livecd that has a driver for the ethernet chip on this laptop.
[01:30] <Pici> bastid_raZor: I figured you were cleaning your keyboard or a cat :)
[01:30] <skylarS> try2free, well, it's very easy to customize paper-size in LaTeX but I really don't know anything about printing... other than finding someone who has had nearly my exact problem...
[01:30] <fryguy> FloridaGuy: just remove the . directories pertaining to gnome in your home directory and restart gnome
[01:31] <giacomo> how can I print system informations to post on launchpad?
[01:31] <bastid_raZor> Pici; sesame street  games encourage my daughter to randomly press keys. at 2y 7m she is doing very well for learning on the computer
[01:31] <try2free> skylarS: thanks, i try in #winehq
[01:31] <Bling>   Thank you, I think I will learn python
[01:31] <FloridaGuy> fryguy, whats that going to do
[01:31] <skylarS> FloridaGuy, how is gnome screwed up?
[01:32] <fryguy> FloridaGuy: going to get rid of all of your gnome settings so that the defaults will be used/generated
[01:32] <Arthemax> ps
[01:32] <zafirex> Who needs random keygens when you have a 2y 7mo ? :)
[01:33] <woody86> how can I re-format a USB drive in ubuntu?
[01:33] <ardchoille> hehe
[01:33] <khaled> khaled
[01:33] <skylarS> FloridaGuy, what fryguy said seems legit heh you can use $ls -a to see those dirs
[01:33] <FloridaGuy> panel and window themes look just like windows 2000....if it open and window it either sitts on top of another or on top of the panel....and missing the title part of windows at the top..with the close ( x )
[01:33] <Dr_willis> woody86,  you mean delete existing filesystems on it? and create new ones.. or reformat an existing one? Gparted can do  either task with a nice gui.
[01:34] <Dr_willis> woody86,  or use the mkfs command line tool with the proper optuons
[01:34] <skylarS> FloridaGuy, and $rm -r .gnome* should do it ? fryguy ?
[01:34] <dns> no no ..
[01:35] <skylarS> well from the home dir in question
[01:35] <fryguy> skylarS: probably not. there's a lot of directories in your home dir related to gnome (there's .gnome2 in addition to what you mentioned to name one quickly)
[01:35] <woody86> Dr_willis- well, I just want to delete any information on it, and make a new filesystem if I have to
[01:35] <FloridaGuy> skylarS, what you just said should uninstall gnome
[01:35] <skylarS> fryguy, how to use reg exp to get them all in one line?
[01:35] <fryguy> skylarS: you don't
[01:36] <skylarS> FloridaGuy, so ls -a in the home dir to find them
[01:36] <Dr_willis> woody86,  it has a filesystem. :) if you want to reformat the filesystem gparted, or mkfs can do that.
[01:36] <FloridaGuy> i dont want to remove directory's..i want to uninstall gnome and reinstall it
[01:37] <skylarS> FloridaGuy, then I have .gnome, .gnome2 and .gnome2_private which can be removed with rm -r
[01:37] <woody86> Dr_willis- ok, thanks :)
[01:37] <WiredGuy> has anyone gotten the madwifi to work with WPA2 in ubuntu 8.10?  I tried using the ath5k driver for my laptop but it's super duper unstable and slow and it doesn't have support for the LEDs...
[01:37] <irpapabear> test
[01:37] <fryguy> FloridaGuy: doing so isn't going to have any effect. the newly installed version will still use your settings in your home directory, and you'll be exactly back to where you started
[01:37] <Dr_willis> FloridaGuy,  'uninstall/reinstalling' programs will not reset the users settings...
[01:37] <mttr> is there a mapi connector for ubuntu with thunderbird
[01:37] <skylarS> fryguy, Dr_willis thanks, I always wondered why that was so
[01:38] <Dr_willis> FloridaGuy,  'uninstall/reinstalling'  is the MS-windows 'method' that people have been trained to try - in hope of things working.
[01:38] <z3ro> btw, can someone also confirm the kernel version on the 8.10 livecd? I don't want to get the old kernel which has the e1000e corruption bug.
[01:38] <Dr_willis> skylarS,  if one thinks about it.. you dont want  the system admin by remoiving some program to be messng with EVERYONES home directory... :)
[01:38] <Dr_willis> skylarS,  rember Linux is a 'multi user operating system' from the ground up. :)
[01:39] <skylarS> Dr_willis, that's what I was just thinking about ;)
[01:39] <seronis> z3ro:  that was fixed awhile ago
[01:39] <FloridaGuy> Dr_willis, well then whats causeing my gnome to look like ms windows 2000 and windows to over lap one another or over lap the panel
[01:39] <fryguy> FloridaGuy: incompatible or inconsistent settings across versions of gnome in your home dir
[01:40] <Dr_willis> FloridaGuy,  as a test.. make a new user.. see if the issue affects them.. if it does NOT affect them.. then its an issue with your Specific users gnome settings..
[01:40] <FloridaGuy> and missing the top of the window where the close (x) is
[01:40] <juancarlospaco> delete all hidden files
[01:40] <Dr_willis> Ive noticed some video glitzes with compiz and the 'top' of the title bar on my laptop.
[01:40] <FloridaGuy> Dr_willis, did that lat night
[01:40] <z3ro> seronis: so the ubuntu-8.10-desktop-i386.iso is fine to use? eg includes the driver (and a recent enough version to not have that bug)
[01:40] <fryguy> FloridaGuy: 1. what were the results of doing that  2. why didn't you tell us this already/
[01:41] <ardchoille> FloridaGuy: the missing "x" is due to your window manager (Metacity) not running. and the lack of themes sounds like gnome-settings-daemon isn't running either.
[01:41] <wisnut_> new question:  why can i get wlan0 to connect fine through iwconfig but the "network configuration" gui does nothing?
[01:41] <fryguy> wisnut_: they use different ways of making a connection, it's very possible that one will work when another doesn't
[01:41] <FloridaGuy> ardchoille, where do i fix that
[01:41] <fryguy> FloridaGuy: we told you what to do already
[01:41] <ardchoille> FloridaGuy: open a terminal and type: metacity &
[01:42] <ardchoille> FloridaGuy: see if there are any errors
[01:42] <seronis> z3ro: fixed a month ago.  that version of the kernel was never in an official repo.  it was experimental
[01:42] <seronis> z3ro: the livecd uses the patched one
[01:42] <n8tuser> wisnut_-> also you can not really get wlan0 to connect with iwconfig, you have to use dhclient or ifup to make the connection
[01:42] <pawan> how to hide
[01:42] <pawan> desktop icons
[01:42] <z3ro> seronis: ok, cool. :) thanks :)
[01:42] <wisnut_> fryguy:  thx. . .i put key 2 config into the gui, but couldn't connect. . .once i forced iwconfig to a essid, it asked for keyring access, then connected
[01:42] <pd4> This happens every time I update: Failed to fetch cdrom:[Ubuntu 8.10 _Intrepid Ibex_ - Release i386 (20081029.5)]/dists/intrepid/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  Please use apt-cdrom to make this CD-ROM recognized by APT. apt-get update cannot be used to add new CD-ROMs
[01:42] <pd4> Failed to fetch cdrom:[Ubuntu 8.10 _Intrepid Ibex_ - Release i386 (20081029.5)]/dists/intrepid/restricted/binary-i386/Packages.gz  Please use apt-cdrom to make this CD-ROM recognized by APT. apt-get update cannot be used to add new CD-ROMs
[01:42] <pd4> Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.-What do I do?
[01:43] <musikgoat> pawan: name the file starting with a .   like .hiddenfile
[01:43] <fryguy> pd4: change your software sources to not include cdroms
[01:43] <FloridaGuy> ardchoille, i get [ 1 ] 15358
[01:43] <yofel> hi, I'm trying to get 'WPA2 Enterprise' working with TLS in the new NM 0.7.0 but the 'connect' button is never enabled. Any help?
[01:43] <AkariChan> Hello everyone
[01:43] <jrib> pawan: you want to hide all icons on the desktop?
[01:43] <pd4> Thank YOU fryguy
[01:43] <musikgoat> pawan: sorry, my suggestion was incorrect
[01:44] <irpapabear> hello AkariChan
[01:44] <AkariChan> Quick Questoin: anyone experienced in using dd /dev/hda and pipe it to gzip?
[01:44] <fryguy> AkariChan: ask the question you really want to ask
[01:44] <AkariChan> i have many, thats why i want someone to tlak to me in pm
[01:44] <musikgoat> pawan: that will hide it from the file browser (nautilus),  which i find interesting, shouldn't the desktop support hidden files?
[01:44] <AkariChan> don't want to flood the channel
[01:44] <jrib> AkariChan: just ask one at a time
[01:45] <ardchoille> AkariChan: that will go much faster using PartImage
[01:45] <fryguy> well, i was using dd on block devices today at work
[01:45] <ardchoille> !sysresccd | AkariChan
[01:45] <AkariChan> ardchoille: it doesn't back up the whole disk
[01:45] <ardchoille> AkariChan: It backs up partitions
[01:45] <AkariChan> i want to be able to back up the whole /dev/sda block, not just a partition.
[01:45] <DanGJavaGeek_> anyone know of a guide to using ubuntu as a server (file, other) in a windows classroom computer lab?
[01:46] <AkariChan> whcih includes the boot block as well
[01:46] <ardchoille> AkariChan: you can use PartImage on each partition
[01:46] <ka2u>  I'm sorry. The problem was irc proxy.
[01:46] <Frogzoo> AkariChan: dd if=/dev/sda of=sda.img
[01:46] <pawan> how to install compiz
[01:46] <AkariChan> ardchoille: i know but it does not restore grub
[01:46] <fryguy> pawan: it's already installed
[01:46] <matt__> What is a good distro for running of a flash usb drive?
[01:46] <FloridaGuy> ardchoille, on metacity &...it gave [1] 15358..that mean anything
[01:46] <ardchoille> FloridaGuy: no idea
[01:46] <AkariChan> Frogzoo: exactly. i wa sthinking piping it to gzip
[01:46] <Dr_willis> DanGJavaGeek_,  You may want to clarify its specific tasks.. and how 'in a classroom' differers from say.. any other use of it as a server. :)  Samba for fileserving to windows machines, ssh for terminal access,  and so forth...
[01:46] <fryguy> FloridaGuy: no it doesn't mean anything
[01:47] <raDeon> does anybody know how i can switch back and forth from full screen rdesktop on my windows computer to my linux computer?
[01:47] <AkariChan> Frogzoo: dd if=/dev/sda | gzip /mnt/mydrive/backup.gz
[01:47] <AkariChan> will that work ?
[01:47] <ardchoille> FloridaGuy: now try: gnome-settings-daemon
[01:47] <Frogzoo> AkariChan: yeah, I think that's legit - maybe throw bs=1000000 in there too for speed
[01:47] <ardchoille> FloridaGuy: now try: gnome-settings-daemon &
[01:47] <FloridaGuy> s how do i find out if there runing out no and start them
[01:47] <AkariChan> I know. but gzip will do pretty well with those padding 0s right?
[01:47] <fryguy> AkariChan: dd doesn't support directing the output to standard out, so you can't pipe it to another application
[01:47] <millertime_018> hey...
[01:47] <Frogzoo> AkariChan: should do, try it
[01:47] <raccoonworld> hi guys
[01:47] <AkariChan> fryguy: it does.
[01:48] <fryguy> AkariChan: so then your command would work, why are you asking?
[01:48] <Dr_willis> Frogzoo,  i dont think  the BS option needs to be that large either.. theres a upper limit to how much of a gain you get for the sizes.
[01:48] <millertime_018> i updated from ubuntu 8.04 to 8.1 and it offered to remove outdated programs/packages
[01:48] <Tyrath> does anyone know how I could avoid this error: ioctl VT_GETSTATE: Invalid argument (not a linux console?) ?
[01:48] <millertime_018> but i said no...
[01:48] <millertime_018> how do i do that now?
[01:48] <AkariChan> fryguy:  i am asking to make sure if it is exactly what i think it will do.
[01:48] <z3ro> matt__: I saw this article on hackaday... might be useful http://hackaday.com/2008/10/30/battle-of-the-thumb-drive-linux-distros/
[01:48] <DanGJavaGeek_> Dr_willis - thanks - I'd like to use ubuntu server to manage everything if possible (samba, ssh, windows domain stuff, etc.)
[01:48] <ubuntu> #ubuntu.es
[01:48] <fryguy> millertime_018: apt-get autoremove should do it
[01:48] <FloridaGuy> [2] 15375
[01:48] <FloridaGuy> [1]   Segmentation fault      metacity
[01:48] <FloridaGuy> mike@mike-desktop:~$ [1]+  Segmentation fault      metacity
[01:48] <FloridaGuy> bash: gnome-setting-daemon: command not found
[01:48] <FloodBot3> FloridaGuy: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:49] <Tyrath> does anyone open images/pdf files in console?
[01:49] <fryguy> FloridaGuy: try metacity --replace
[01:49] <Dr_willis> DanGJavaGeek_,  Samba, and ssh are trivial to get going.. No idea on the Domain Login./other stuff.. I would check the samba-doc package and the boosk in there.. Ive never done those tasks..
[01:49] <AkariChan> then, to restore the block device , gunzip -dc myfile.gz | dd of=/dev/sda
[01:49] <Tyrath> as in... so they open up in console
[01:49] <AkariChan> ?
[01:49] <raccoonworld> know the video overlay on consol mode??
[01:49] <DanGJavaGeek_> Dr_willis - will do, thanks very much
[01:49] <Frogzoo> Tyrath: acroread blah.pdf ?
[01:49] <z3ro> Tyrath: pdftotext --layout for pdf files.
[01:49] <AkariChan> Frogzoo: then, to restore the block device , gunzip -dc myfile.gz | dd of=/dev/sda
[01:49] <theGZA> how do i know what version of Ubuntu I have?
[01:49] <AkariChan> i assume?
[01:49] <FloridaGuy> segmentation fault
[01:50] <Frogzoo> AkariChan: zcat, but yeah
[01:50] <Tyrath> z3ro: I was hoping there was a way to enable formatting :/
[01:50] <ale_> ci sono italiani in chatt ???
[01:50] <Tyrath> z3ro: because I wanted the pictures to show up aswell
[01:50] <z3ro> Tyrath: the --layout option usually gets the formatting pretty good... of course, you're not going to see images.
[01:50] <musikgoat> theGZA: type lsb_release in the terminal
[01:50] <fryguy> !version | theGZA
[01:50] <caiphn> I just posted a problem I have to the ubuntuforums website. Does anyone know if i'll receive a response via email automatically when a reply occurs or if I have to change a setting?
[01:50] <ardchoille> interesting, I didn't know I had pdftotext :)
[01:50] <ale_> niente italiani mi sa
[01:50] <Tyrath> z3ro: yeh see the pdf files contain diagrams that I do wish to see
[01:51] <ardchoille> !it | ale_
[01:51] <theGZA> 'No LSB modules are available'
[01:51] <FloridaGuy> wouldent just reinstalling it give me a clean install of gnome
[01:51] <z3ro> Tyrath: I think there is some console image viewer though... based on aalib, iirc.
[01:51] <Tyrath> z3ro: I have a prog which can apparently do it, but when I try to use it I get the error message: ioctl VT_GETSTATE: Invalid argument (not a linux console?)
[01:51] <bluechaos1986> hi, my wireless internet keeps getting d/ced. could anyone help me out? i have a d-link ar5413
[01:51] <musikgoat> theGZA: sorry, add -a
[01:51] <lap> someone know how to disable/remove PulseAudio properly ?
[01:51] <skylarS> FloridaGuy, not according to people who are more knowledgeable than me...
[01:51] <theGZA> edgy 6.10, mm
[01:51] <matt__> z3ro: Thanks!
[01:51] <z3ro> matt__: no problem :)
[01:52] <z3ro> Tyrath: not sure about that, it might expect a framebuffer console?
[01:52] <ardchoille> FloridaGuy: reinstalling would give you a new install of gnome, but that won't help if the problem resides in your gnome settings
[01:52] <Tristam> Intrepid apparently doesn't like booting from my clunky old scsi drive.
[01:52] <matt__> z3ro: Ever try anything like that?
[01:52] <skylarS> lap, you could purge it with apt if you never want to see it again... or you could just take it out of your boot script.. now where was that pesky boot script?
[01:52] <libervisco> Hi, how do I change resolution of console?
[01:52] <Tyrath> z3ro: is bash not a framebuffer shell?
[01:52] <lap> skylarS: yeah : 0
[01:52] <lap> skylarS: where it is ?
[01:52] <schnoowork> anyone know why my lamp setup might not be recognising PHP files if i have libapache2-mod-php5 installed ?
[01:52] <z3ro> matt__: nope, I haven't tried any of those before... I don't really use usb drive distros.
[01:53] <libervisco> oh wait I remember now
[01:53] <Frogzoo> libervisco: /etc/default/console-setup
[01:53] <fryguy> schnoowork: did you restart apache after installing mod-php
[01:53] <z3ro> matt__: but it might at least give you a comparison of a few of them.
[01:53] <libervisco> Frogzoo: in grub actually, but yeah that too :)
[01:53] <libervisco> thanks
[01:53] <schnoowork> fryguy, yes. It just tries to download the php file like it wasnt actually included into apache :\
[01:53] <z3ro> Tyrath: if you're running a terminal inside X, then no. if you're on one of the virtual consoles, then maybe (depends if it's setup or not)
[01:53] <schnoowork> but a2enmod says Module php5 already enabled :\
[01:53] <lap> skylarS: ?
[01:54] <skylarS> lap, let me try to solve this problem... I'm thinking....
[01:54] <musikgoat> schnoowork: is php5 installed?
[01:54] <z3ro> Tyrath: usually it's some kernel boot options to enable FB console.
[01:54] <ardchoille> schnoowork: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[01:54] <Tyrath> z3ro: I think fbi is supposed to work under X
[01:54] <basy> hi i'm looking for available repositary in slovakia.  i used ftp.tuke.sk but there is only /debian from now ...
[01:54] <z3ro> Tyrath: but I'm just guessing. the "invalid argument" error isn't very descriptive. so it could be something else.
[01:55] <schnoowork> ahh i see they use tasksel to install now :\
[01:55] <schnoowork> i just did it the old fashion way
[01:55] <ardchoille> schnoowork: so did I and mine works
[01:55] <Tyrath> z3ro: I saw somewhere that someone edited /boot/grub/menu.lst and set vga=<specific dimension> and it worked. But when I tried nothing happened. Is that because I have to restart to get the changed to take effect?
[01:55] <Out_Cold> can someone help me figure out why i get this dd error?? http://pastebin.com/m125c6cbd
[01:55] <ardchoille> schnoowork: did you read the Troubleshooting PHP 5 bit?
[01:55] <espacious> any help with that?
[01:55] <espacious> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=698883&highlight=tew424ub
[01:56] <fryguy> Tyrath: changes to /boot require a reboot to take effect
[01:56] <Tyrath> fryguy: ah k
[01:56] <[T]ank> I think that I have found how to remove the language selection in the boot menu from the live cd. I think it is in the file named bootlogo. I opened this in a hex editor, but I do not know much about editing hex. anyone able to tell me what I need to change to make the live cd boot up with english as the default language instead of having to make the selection?
[01:56] <irpapabear> your quite good at this stuff fryguy!
[01:56] <Tyrath> fryguy: any tips with editing the boot file because I'm scared I'll screw something up. If I'm not wrong a single # is executed still but a double ## indicates something is commented out
[01:56] <skylarS> what file says what daemons to start at boot?
[01:56] <fryguy> irpapabear: lol, i am not really
[01:56] <Flannel> [T]ank: If you just wait for it to time out, it boots with english.
[01:57] <theGZA> when i do apt-get upgrade it says "could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock" .. hmmm odd? i tried to pgrep for 'lock' or 'lists' but couldn't find it..
[01:57] <fryguy> Tyrath: no idea, i don't use grub so I couldn't tell you
[01:57] <irpapabear> is impressed...and taking notes
[01:57] <Flannel> Tyrath: no, any number of #s is a comment.
[01:57] <[T]ank> Flannel: yeah... but thats a pain... I guess i could find where the default timeout is and change it to 0
[01:57] <theGZA> err, apt-get update, not upgrade
[01:57] <Dr_willis> Hmmm...  I just got a popup asking for a temp directory..  from firefox it seems...   'NetX Open source JNLP Client"   Not sure if that came from the igoogle page, or what.. anyone seen this sort of dialog befor? it is some spam/trick or a Legit thing?
[01:57] <ardchoille> theGZA: close any other package managers you have open
[01:57] <musikgoat> theGZA: end syntaptic or any gui update managers if they are running
[01:57] <Flannel> Tyrath: You want to add vga to your boot?
[01:57] <Tyrath> Flannel: so why is half the boot file commented out then?
[01:57] <Flannel> [T]ank: No idea
[01:57]  * z3ro going to watch a movie while the livecd downloads... (yes, the internet sucks here :()
[01:57] <Tyrath> Flannel: I do indeed
[01:57] <theGZA> i have none open visually, musikgoat and ardchoille
[01:58] <theGZA> that i can see
[01:58] <theGZA> can i manually kill?
[01:58] <Flannel> Tyrath: The commented stuff (up at the top) isn't actually read by grub, but by update-grub, which generates the uncommented stuff, for GRUB to read.
[01:58] <musikgoat> theGZA: you can check the processes running with ps aux
[01:58] <skylarS> /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit is where in ubuntu?
[01:58] <Tyrath> Flannel: ah k. so if i wish to add vga resolution i don't comment it out?
[01:58] <Flannel> Tyrath: so, near the top, you'll find a defoptions line, it's commented, and probably has quiet and splash in it right now.  You want to add it to that.
[01:58] <fryguy> skylarS: probably in /etc/init.d, ubuntu uses sysV style init, not bsd-style
[01:59] <Flannel> Tyrath: You want to add it permanently, correct?
[01:59] <Tyrath> Flannel: so defoptions=vga=<dimensions>x<dimension>?
[01:59] <Flannel> fryguy: We use upstart now, although are still more or less sysV compatable
[01:59] <Tyrath> Flannel: I guess. I don't know. I want to be able to use fbi
[01:59] <Awsoonn> I have an Atheros Communications Inc. AR242x 802.11abg Wireless PCI Express Adapter (rev 01) that jockey tried to install automagicly, but it does not show up as an interface, please advise
[01:59] <FFForever> how come when the music app player is open firefox cant play noises :/
[02:00] <fryguy> Tyrath: no, it takes a single integer number, different numbers correspond to different modes, there is a lookup somewhere of which numbers correspond to what, maybe a manpage for grub, i'm unsure
[02:00] <skylarS> fryguy, you know what rc stands for?
[02:00] <Tyrath> Flannel: I usually comment stuff out that I change, just incase
[02:00] <fryguy> Flannel: note sysv STYLE init
[02:00] <Flannel> Tyrath: no, it doesn't quite work that way.  They're encoded.  Why don't you first do this: add vga=ask to the end of that, the line becomes: # defoptions=quiet splash vga=ask
[02:00] <Out_Cold> can someone help me figure out how come i get this input/output error with dd? http://pastebin.com/m125c6cbd
[02:00] <Flannel> fryguy: No, it's not a sysV style init. It's upstart.
[02:00] <FloridaGuy> someone just let me know what package removes all of gnome...
[02:00] <fryguy> skylarS: resource configuration is what i refer to it as, it's true designation is ambiguous however and there is no 1 correct answer
[02:00] <Flannel> skylarS: in dpkg?
[02:01] <irpapabear> why would you wnat to remove gnome
[02:01] <Tyrath> Flannel: and what's that do?
[02:01] <skylarS> Flannel, I am trying to find where to remove daemons from starting at boot
[02:01] <lexvegas> Hey, I have a kind of stupid question. What does the vertical line in help forums mean?
[02:01] <ethana21> My sound settings keep reverting in the volume control thingy when I close it
[02:01] <ethana21> mutes all the sound in, but it actually doesn't..  what's up with that?
[02:01] <FloridaGuy> right now..im in kde 4.1...
[02:01] <Flannel> Tyrath: well, that by itself doesn't do anything, once that's saved, do `sudo update-grub` and then it'll generate a new menu.lst based on the modified config
[02:01] <ethana21> skylarS: install bum
[02:01] <Dominik> I can download a driver for XFree86 4.3 or X.)rg 6.8 which one does Ubuntu use?
[02:02] <musikgoat> lexvegas: its called a pipe,  as in this?   |
[02:02] <ethana21> skylarS: Boot Up Manager allows you to select all services that load on startup
[02:02] <skylarS> ethana21, I'm doing it for the learning experience
[02:02] <lexvegas> yes
[02:02] <Flannel> Tyrath: What vga=ask does is asks you for your vga parameter each boot.  You'll be able to try a few, and then once you find one that works well for you, you can permanently make it use that.
[02:02] <lexvegas> what does it mean
[02:02] <Tyrath> fryguy: I saw someone somewhere doing vga=<number>x<number> and apparently it worked
[02:02] <musikgoat> lexvegas: pipe takes the output of the beginning and sends it to the command after the pipe
[02:02] <bulux> hi, i'm considering to acquire a PCMCIA device GlobeTrotter Fusion+HSDPA, is it supported by ubuntu 8.04?
[02:03] <ethana21> bulux: is there a particular reason you'd like to use 8.04 instead of 8.10?
[02:03] <fryguy> Flannel: the example jobs in upstart run the same scripts as old system-v init packages on the same events, using the system-v compatibility tools to generate runlevel events.  <--  It uses system v init scripts, therefore it behaves in a systemv style, closer to the ATT system V specification, and further from true posix. right?
[02:03] <Tyrath> Flannel: couldn't I just find the recommended setting for fbi somewhere?
[02:03] <theGZA> I'm on edgy 6.10 - it seems like the packages and support = gone... is there an easy way that I can upgrade to whatever the latest is? Hardy? Feisty?
[02:03] <johnnyg> is the software that runs brainstorm.ubuntu.com itself open source? If not, is there a similar open source software available?
[02:03] <fryguy> Flannel: maybe you aren't clear on what my definition of "style" is
[02:03] <ludwig> greetings all, is there an ibex ubuntu tool for configuring two monitors?  two different resolutions
[02:03] <ethana21> theGZA: Intrepid
[02:03] <n8tuser> Tyrath try vga=791
[02:04] <lexvegas> Okay, how do you type it into terminal?
[02:04] <matt__> Anyone have any experience with Slax? Does it have some sort of package management?
[02:04] <ethana21> theGZA: I'd do a clean install
[02:04] <skylarS> could lap just remove a line from a file in /etc/init.d so that pulse audio will not start on boot?
[02:04] <Tyrath> n8tuser: do you use fbi?
[02:04] <bulux> ethana21: the LTS version
[02:04] <musikgoat> lexvegas: on most keyboards it looks like a colon but longer marks, and its above the \
[02:04] <ethana21> theGZA: I think the oldest thing you can dist-upgrade from is like...
[02:04] <FloridaGuy> isent there one meta package that removes it
[02:04] <ethana21> ohhh, LTS to LTS?
[02:04] <theGZA> ethana21: Problem is... I have 3 main partitions.. 1 for windows, 1 for ubuntu ( ext 3 ) and the other is for.. boot or something
[02:04] <n8tuser> Tyrath-> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=258484&highlight=kernel+booting+parameters
[02:04] <musikgoat> lexvegas: shift + \
[02:04] <ethana21> bulux: you should be able to just run dist-upgrade in the command line
[02:04] <lexvegas> ok
[02:04] <lexvegas> thanks alot
[02:04] <Tyrath> n8tuser: ty - looking now
[02:04] <ethana21> or upgrade-manager -d or something
[02:04] <musikgoat> lexvegas: yw
[02:05] <Flannel> !upgrade | bulux
[02:05]  * ethana21 forgot 6.whatever was LTS
[02:05] <Flannel> ethana21: 6.06
[02:05] <luke__> whats up people
[02:05] <ethana21> luke__: we are very busy chilling.
[02:06] <ethana21> just listening to some rap, editing some images in the G-PIMP
[02:06] <FloridaGuy> !remove gnome
[02:06] <bulux> ethana21: yes, but i need internet connection, so i'm thinking to acquire the GlobeTrotter Fusion+HSDPA, but i have doubt about the 8.04 support, can you tell me?
[02:06] <skylarS> FloridaGuy, did you try th posited solution?
[02:06] <Flannel> Tyrath: http://www.gentoo-wiki.info/Framebuffer scroll down to vesafb section
[02:06] <nickrud> !purekde
[02:06] <ethana21> I can't, but 8.10 is a lot more likely to support it than 8.04
[02:06] <nickrud> FloridaGuy, ^^
[02:07] <bluechaos1986> hi, my wireless internet keeps getting d/ced. could anyone help me out? i have a d-link ar5413
[02:07] <FloridaGuy> skylarS, right now i would rather use kde.....i more a kde person
[02:08] <ludwig> any chance that anyone has experience setting up two monitors with different resolution?
[02:08] <Ajuna> Does anyone use KDE (Kubuntu)?  I installed the kscreensaver package but I can't find the settings for it anywhere in KDE
[02:08] <nickrud> FloridaGuy, no need to remove gnome, just log into the kde desktop
[02:08] <n8tuser> bluechaos1986-> maybe position your antenna differently?
[02:08] <fryguy> ludwig: all of my attempts to do this with 8.10 have failed, I would recommend going back to 8.04, which seems to have better support for this (at least given my hardware configuration)
[02:08] <Ajuna> I'm using 4.1
[02:08] <Dominik> Do I need drivers for XFree86 or X.Org?\
[02:08] <fryguy> Dominik: X.org
[02:08] <FloridaGuy> nickrud, i want to remove it
[02:08] <skylarS> where would:    /etc/inittab   be in ubuntu?
[02:08] <Dominik> fryguy: thanks
[02:09] <nickrud> Dominik, all drivers are included in Xorg, except for the binary ones from ati and nvidia; those are accessible through system->admin->hardware drivers
[02:09] <nickrud> !purekde | FloridaGuy
[02:09] <bluechaos1986> yeah i did that, but on windows xp it stays connected
[02:09] <bulux> ethana21: thank you for your comments, i really appreciate it
[02:11] <Dominik314> nickrud: I am trying to install Radeon 9000 driver from ATI for a Mobility Radeon 9000 card, I read that that driver works fine for that card under windowz I hope I get the same luck under linux
[02:11] <pawan> hi
[02:11] <Out_Cold> can someone help me figure out how come i get this input/output error with dd? http://pastebin.com/m125c6cbd
[02:11] <nickrud> Dominik314, try using the system->admin->hardware manager version before trying to install the one you download from ati. The provided one is much easier to install
[02:12] <Dominik314> nickrud: that doesn't suggest anything
[02:12] <pawan> i am getting firex updated needs to restart browser every time i start my browser
[02:12] <tomy> whiteline
[02:12] <tomy> hi
[02:12] <tomy> are u here
[02:12] <tomy> ?
[02:13] <tomy> can someone help me
[02:13] <nickrud> Dominik314, ohh, 9000, that one has decent support from the xorg driver. 3d and all, iirc
[02:13] <Dominik314> nickrud: and the open source driver for ATI just don'st cut it, I have 64 megs of dedicated graphics and I better NOT be lagging when I scroll through webpages, if I can't get my graphics supported I can't get Ubuntu supported, which would make me cry
[02:13] <tomy> help
[02:13] <fryguy> !ask | tomy
[02:13] <Out_Cold> !ask | tomy
[02:13] <tomy> ok
[02:13] <nickrud> Dominik314, I have a 8800gt, and it lags in firefox anyway. Everything else is fine
[02:13] <Dominik314> nickrud: you mean the one that is used by default? if so no its not decent, if it is not the one that Ubuntu installed itself, how do I get it?
[02:13] <tomy> jow to remove ubuntu
[02:14] <tomy> how to remove ubuntu
[02:14] <tomy> ?
[02:14] <fryguy> tomy: repartition your machine, remove the partitions for ubuntu, put windows installation media in, get to recovery console and type "fixmbr"
[02:14] <Out_Cold> tomy, why are you trying to remove it?
[02:14] <pawan> how to install opera
[02:14] <tomy> i will reinstall it in windows
[02:14] <KyTiX> lol I love how people are asking questions in the 1st person lol.
[02:15] <fryguy> pawan: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser
[02:15] <Dr_willis> Out_Cold,  its reached the end of the disk.. its done.. it then exits with that message..
[02:15] <Dominik314> nickrud: that is unacceptable! I just can't belive that linux would have these problems, but I am told it is the fault of the driver, not linux
[02:15] <Out_Cold> follow fryguy's help
[02:15] <nickrud> Dominik314, that's the one.
[02:15] <tomy> where do i type fixmbr
[02:15] <ethana21> KyTiX: How else would they ask them?
[02:15] <KyTiX> in your boot up cmd
[02:15] <Dr_willis> Out_Cold,  if you use the BS=XXXXX option. it will copy much faster also.
[02:15] <Out_Cold> Dr_willis, with the input/output error as well though?
[02:15] <KyTiX> you might need your windows cd?
[02:15] <tomy> on the teminal?
[02:15] <KyTiX> no
[02:15] <Out_Cold> what would be the XXX's?
[02:15] <nickrud> Dominik314, that's an easy thing to get confused about. Linux is the kernel: everything else is applications. X is an application.
[02:15] <Dr_willis> Out_Cold,  its reading till it cant read no more. :) basicially..   4013539328 bytes (4.0 GB) copied
[02:16] <tomy> i do but it aways says bootmanager missing
[02:16] <fryguy> tomy: like i said, put your windows installation media in, get a recovery console, and type it there
[02:16] <tomy> wat recory console
[02:16] <KyTiX> ^^ yeah.
[02:16] <Out_Cold> Dr_willis, but i only get 3.5 gb out of it..
[02:16] <Dr_willis> Out_Cold,  some block size ##. checn the dd man page.. normally its like 1024, or 2048 or something.
[02:16] <fryguy> tomy: the one on your windows installation media
[02:16] <Dominik314> nickrud: so is it the xserver or the drivers fault?
[02:16] <tomy> do i do it right now or resart my computer
[02:16] <KyTiX> tomy --> do you have your windows cds? that you used to install windows?
[02:16] <Dr_willis> Out_Cold,  I copy dvd's that way all the time. and never have issues with them.
[02:16] <Dominik314> nickrud: eitherway if I can't fix it it means no Ubuntu on this mashine, and id cry
[02:16] <tomy> yes
[02:17] <tomy> windows vista
[02:17] <nickrud> Dominik314, the driver is part of Xorg. that's why it's package name is xserver-xorg-video-ati
[02:17] <Out_Cold> copy dvd movies? like past restrictions?
[02:17] <fryguy> tomy: like i said, put your windows installation media in, get a recovery console, and type it there
[02:17] <KyTiX> tomy --> boot from them, then hit r after it loads, then typ fixmbr there
[02:17] <Baversjo> Hello! I'm having a problem with GRUB, I cannot boot XP up. Here is my installation order (did it all in one go); Vista -> XP -> Ubuntu Desktop. After that I repaired Vista using the DVD so I could boot it up. I'm now able to boot Ubuntu and Vista but not XP. I can see the XP-partition in the filsystem as well as the vista partition. How can I boot XP using GRUB? I'm also using KGRUBEditor
[02:17] <tomy> on cd
[02:17] <tomy> or ubuntu
[02:18] <fryguy> tomy: on the cd
[02:18] <Dominik> nickrud: so is there anything I can try before I try to forcefully jam a driver in there that will probabily not work
[02:18] <gustavo> Olá
[02:19] <KyTiX> tomy -> once your boot up your windows install cd's you can go to the recovery terminal from there. Then you type fixmbr there. simple as pie.
[02:19] <nickrud> Dominik, there's a paper floating around about optimizing those older cards, I've been googling but haven't run across it yet
[02:19] <gustavo> essa lista é internacional?
[02:19] <Arthemax> hi
[02:19] <tomy> wats that mean?
[02:19] <gustavo> tem algum brazuca na área?
[02:19] <tomy> ok
[02:19] <tomy> ganna restart my computer
[02:19] <tomy> ?
[02:19] <KyTiX> yes
[02:19] <Flannel> !br | gustavo
[02:19] <Arthemax> i installed ubuntu a couple of days ago, but when I logged in today, I'm suddenly not sudo anymore :(
[02:19] <KyTiX> with windows cd's in
[02:20] <gustavo> valeu
[02:20] <ethana21> Arthemax: you mean you're not in the sudoers group?
[02:20] <Flannel> Arthemax: What output do you get from the `groups` command?
[02:20] <ethana21> It won't let your user use sudo?
[02:20] <caiphn> I just posted a problem I have to the ubuntuforums website. Does anyone know if i'll receive a response via email automatically when a reply occurs or if I have to change a setting?
[02:20] <fryguy> caiphn: why not just go and review your settings and see?
[02:20] <ethana21> caiphn: make sure you're subscribed to the thread you posted
[02:20] <Flannel> caiphn: #ubuntuforums is the place to ask
[02:20] <Arthemax> magne adm dialout cdrom plugdev lpadmin sambashare cedega
[02:20] <KyTiX> caiphn: agree with fryguy :)
[02:21] <naphelge> isn't xubuntu-desktop available in the 8.10 repos? i don't see it
[02:21] <Flannel> Arthemax: Correct.  You're not in the admin group.
[02:21] <boog> Hi, is anyone available to help me atm?
[02:21] <fryguy> !ask | boog
[02:21] <boog> Hi is anyone available to help me atm?
[02:21] <ethana21> boog: state your question and we'll see
[02:21] <Flannel> naphelge: It is.  It's in universe.
[02:21] <Baversjo> Hello! I'm having a problem with GRUB, I cannot boot XP up. Here is my installation order (did it all in one go); Vista -> XP -> Ubuntu Desktop. After that I repaired Vista using the DVD so I could boot it up. I'm now able to boot Ubuntu and Vista but not XP. I can see the XP-partition in the filsystem as well as the vista partition. How can I boot XP using GRUB? I'm also using KGRUBEditor. (Sorry for doublepost)
[02:21] <Arthemax> Flannel: but i was yesterday.
[02:21] <Tyrath> alright thanks heaps people fbgs now works!!!!
[02:22] <boog> Im going to blast my laptop and i was wondering if there is a way to save all my configuration and settings so i can just paste it back to my new ubuntu
[02:22] <Tyrath> infact fbi as a whole now works
[02:22] <naphelge> ok i just installed ubuntu & aptitude search xubuntu-desktop came up with nuthing... hrmmm i see kubuntu-desktop nps
[02:22] <Flannel> Arthemax: Do you have any other users?  Were you playing with anything group related?  with cedega?
[02:22] <Tyrath> vga=791 fixed it perfectly
[02:22] <KyTiX> Baversjo -> so you have partioned your hd 3 times correct?
[02:22] <Flannel> naphelge: You need to update.  sudo apt-get update
[02:22] <caiphn> I'm not sure what the name of that particular option is.
[02:22] <fryguy> boog: backup your /home directory, that contains all of your user settings for the applications that you run
[02:22] <Baversjo> KyTiX: Yes
[02:22] <Tyrath> the only setback is for some weird reason when I boot up the ubuntu progress bar and everything is shifted over to the right hand side of the screen. is that suppose to happen?
[02:22] <naphelge> Flannel.. okies i haven't done update/upgrade yet
[02:22] <boog> fryguy, will it also save the config for cf? \
[02:22] <Tyrath> - or does that just happen on the first boot?
[02:22] <naphelge> thanx
[02:23] <KyTiX> Baver -> what does it say when you try to start xp? or is it even showing up?
[02:23] <fryguy> boog: cf?
[02:23] <kthef> I always backup my home, etc, folders
[02:23] <nickrud> Baversjo, first thing I'd do is clone the vista boot stanza in grub, but point it at the xp partition (hdx,x)
[02:23] <Flannel> naphelge: when you update, you'll get the list of packages from the internet.  Right now, you don't know about them.
[02:23] <boog> fryguy, compiz fusion?
[02:23] <Arthemax> No other users. I did look a bit in the users and groups options, but i'm quite sure i didn't edit anything there.
[02:23] <fryguy> boog: yes
[02:23] <pogztimz> i plugged a 100GB Mass Storage on Ubuntu 8.04, how can make use of it? i,m planning to share it with the network?
[02:23] <Baversjo> KyTiX: I don't get it shown in GRUB at all
[02:23] <boog> fryguy, and xmms?
[02:23] <n8tuser> Tyrath-> your monitor has an adjustments itself, put them in auto mode
[02:23] <fryguy> boog: yes, all of the applications you use, the settings are stored in your home directory
[02:23] <Tyrath> n8tuser: how do I do that?
[02:23] <KyTiX> Baversjo -> let me check something first 1 sec.
[02:23] <n8tuser> Tyrath-> press menu ?
[02:24] <boog> fryguy, ty so much, just one more question , how can i view my saved links of websites?
[02:24]  * Tyrath doesn't understand
[02:24] <Flannel> Arthemax: Apparently you've removed yourself from the admin group.  But this is fixable.  Reboot to the recovery console (hit escape to see the grub menu, choose recovery console) then adduser username admin (where "username" is the username of your user) then `init 2` will get you to a regular GUI boot
[02:24] <n8tuser> Tyrath then pull out the manual for your monitor
[02:24] <fryguy> boog: there should be a bookmarks file in ~/.mozilla somewhere
 hi, i plugged a 100GB Mass Storage on Ubuntu 8.04, how can make use of it? i,m planning to share it with the network?
[02:24] <Arthemax> Flannel: Ok. Thank you :)
[02:24] <Tyrath> n8tuser: you're talking using the xserver yeah?
[02:24] <Baversjo> nickrud: Vista is (hd0,0), how would i clone it?
[02:24] <Dominik> is there an application that clears out the memory? for example when I close tabs in firefox memory doesn't become available imidiatly
[02:25] <fryguy> Dominik: the linux kernel will allocate memory as is necessary
[02:25] <n8tuser> Tyrath-> you pulled out the monitor manual yeah?
[02:25] <Dr_willis> Dominik,  linux will clear it out when its needed...
[02:25] <boog> fryguy, well thankyou alot tho,
[02:25] <bulux> anyone can direct me or tell me how to set up GT Fusion+HSDPA PCMCIA modem in ubuntu 8.04?
[02:25] <Tyrath> n8tuser: you mean man monitor?
[02:26] <Tyrath> n8tuser: apparently there's no manual entry for monitor
[02:26] <n8tuser> Tyrath-> nope, a hard copy , look into how you configure it, so it can auto adjust
[02:26] <KyTiX> Baversjo -> have you tried editing your menu.lst?
[02:26] <think_linux> hello....how do i update ubuntu without restarting every time??
[02:26] <Tyrath> n8tuser: where do I find that?
[02:26] <fryguy> think_linux: the only time a restart is required is when a new kernel or kernel modules are installed.  This is an uncommon occurrent
[02:26] <fryguy> occurence*
[02:26] <Dr_willis> think_linux,  reboots are only needed to apply kernel updates. which are not 'everytime' :
[02:26] <Tyrath> n8tuser: oh wait don't worry I just found it
[02:27] <ardchoille> When I installed the nvidia drivers a month ago using the Hardware Drivers tool, it made my tty's all blank. I now have a new machine and want the nvidia drivers. Has this been fixed yet?
[02:27] <think_linux> ok i see!
[02:27] <think_linux> :)
[02:27] <tomy> a
[02:27] <tomy> it dosent work
[02:27] <Dominik> Dr_willis: fryguy: this is what I don't get, I have two mashines running Ubuntu, the first is using 400 megs of memory but only running FF3 with three tabs, Pidgin, and Htop, the second is running FF3 with 20 tabs, Pidgin, Htop, Terminal but only uses 320 megs of ram, how is that possible? the mashine that is using only 320 megs has 1 gig installed so it wouldn't have a problem with more, but the mashine with 400 megs only has 469 megs
[02:27] <pogztimz> i plugged a 100GB Mass Storage on Ubuntu 8.04, but i cant see it?
[02:27] <pogztimz> anyone pls
[02:27] <tomy> can i just make a windows boot disc
[02:27] <KyTiX> ardchoille: try installing from command line this time.
[02:27] <Baversjo> KyTiX: No. I have no experience in this area :P I'm trying to use the GRUB editor but when I create a new entire the partition doesn't show up in the suggestions
[02:27] <fryguy> Dominik: different usage patterns yield different amounts of ram usage
[02:27] <Dr_willis> Dominik,  unused ram - gets used as cache.. and released when its needed..  dont worry about the  ram ussage.. thats your 'windows training' kicking in. :)
[02:28] <ardchoille> KyTiX: that does the same thing. I think the problem is with the driver itself
[02:28] <tomy> how can i removw ubuntu
[02:28] <Dr_willis> Dominik,  you rarely hear linux users worry/talk about tweaking their ram ussage
[02:28] <Dominik> fryguy: Dr_willis: sketchy...
[02:28] <fryguy> tomy: what is wrong with the directions you were previously given
[02:28] <Tyrath> n8tuser: nope the help files just say to use the applet
[02:28] <tomy> it dosent work
[02:28] <pawan> firefox error message ur browser needs to be restarted every time
[02:28] <Kudi> Can someone help me with This last question for CIS?: Explain the naming conventions used to identify Internet host name computers
[02:28] <fryguy> tomy: what didn't work about it
[02:28] <Dr_willis> Dominik,  time to google./read up on memory ussage in linux I guess.. its not an issue.
[02:29] <Dominik> Dr_willis: I had to tweak my swapiness : P
[02:29] <Flannel> !doesntwork | tomy
[02:29] <KyTiX> Baversjo: Boot up in grub and pick edit settings and see if you can add windows.
[02:29] <Tyrath> n8tuser: but the thing is I don't know where the applet it
[02:29] <Dr_willis> Dominik,  i dont even touch  swap that i notice.. :)
[02:29] <n8tuser> Tyrath-> look for button called menu on your monitor, look in the back, front, underneath, top, where ever
[02:29] <nickrud> Baversjo, was away for a bit; did you get an answer?
[02:29] <Baversjo> KyTiX: Ok brb :)
[02:29] <tomy> it
[02:29] <Dr_willis> Oh wait im using 50K of swap now! egads! reboot!
[02:29] <KyTiX> ardchoille -> Whats the exact video card you have?
[02:29] <Dr_willis> :)
[02:29] <fryguy> Kudi: DNS recursive search through domains, blah blah blah.  not going to do your homework for you, but that should get you started
[02:29] <Kudi> an someone help me with This last question for CIS?: Explain the naming conventions used to identify Internet host name computers
[02:29] <pogztimz> anyone pls tell me how to acces the 100GB i just pluggen in the usb?
[02:30] <ardchoille> KyTiX: nvidia GeForce 6200
[02:30] <fryguy> pogztimz: probably in /media
[02:30] <Flannel> Kudi: #ubuntu-offtopic, not here, thanks
[02:30] <Baversjo> nickrud: Not sure, but I'm going to try to add it in the grub loader, BRB :)
[02:30] <Dr_willis> pogztimz,  mount it.. access it..  check dmesg to see where its at...
[02:30] <think_linux> kudi : is that a test question? lol
[02:30] <Ajuna> Does ubuntu compile their kernels with the high memory option for 32-bit limitation on 3GB of RAM?
[02:30] <Dr_willis> pogztimz,  check places -> computer ->  to see if its there
[02:30] <KyTiX> ardchoille: is it like a XXX edition or something?
[02:30] <ardchoille> KyTiX: I think it's nvidia-glx-177
[02:30] <Flannel> Ajuna: Only the server kernel has PAE
[02:30] <nickrud> Baversjo, before you do, maybe we can identify what partition you should point at
[02:30] <Kudi> lol no homework
[02:30] <Dr_willis> pogztimz,  if its ntfs filesystem. you may need to install/run the ntfs-config tool to fully access it.
 what commands should i type?
[02:30] <n8tuser> Ajuna-> can you please google for why linux is limited to 3gig ram..there are lots of articles on this
[02:30] <Ajuna> So is it worth going 64-bit or is it too much a headache?
[02:31] <think_linux> kudi : what class?
[02:31] <Tyrath> n8tuser: I can't find it but don't worry about it. I'll fix this up sometime later
[02:31] <fryguy> think_linux: computer information systems 101
[02:31] <Dr_willis> Ajuna,  ive had no issues with 64bit so far.. :)
[02:31] <Tyrath> would anyone know if there's a way to view formatted word documents in shell?
[02:31] <ardchoille> KyTiX: the drivers worked fine i Dapper, Edgy and Feisty if that helps
[02:31] <Kudi> concepts of inforsystems
[02:31] <n8tuser> Tyrath-> look around your monitor, its a physical button or switch, maybe next to on/off
[02:31] <Tyrath> like if I can view pdf's there's a good chance there's a way to view word docs aswell
[02:31] <fryguy> Tyrath: there isn't, a terminal can only display text
[02:31] <KyTiX> ardchoille -> what version are you running?
[02:31] <Flannel> Kudi: This channel is for Ubuntu support only, you should ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:32] <fryguy> Tyrath: well, a terminal emulator.  Some consoles have higher levels of graphics support (via things like framebuffers).
[02:32] <ardchoille> KyTiX: no nvidia drivers installed on this machine yet, was waiting for that bug to be fixed
[02:32] <Tyrath> fryguy: but then how come I can view pdf's all formatted and everything using fbgs in shell?
[02:32] <KyTiX> ardchoille -> what version of ubuntu are you running?
[02:33] <ardchoille> KyTiX: Oh, sorry, Ubuntu 8.10
[02:33] <intangir> obama sucks
[02:33] <Dominik> intangir: off-topic
[02:33] <Ajuna> so if you upgrade version of ubuntu with seperate / and /home partitions?  Is there anything special I have to do during the install to avoid wiping out my user data?
[02:33] <Tyrath> fryguy: actually if there was a simple way to view pictures and text that would be ideal
[02:33] <intangir> Dominik: hehe its a test
[02:33] <Dominik> intagir: ?
[02:33] <fryguy> Ajuna: no
[02:33] <Tyrath> fryguy: using antiword does something funny with the tables and it aggrivates me when I go to edit files after they've been reformated by antiword
[02:33] <Flannel> Ajuna: If you're upgrading, that data wont be overwritten anyway.  If you're reinstalling, just make sure you mark home as being used as home, but not formatted.
[02:33] <intangir> Ajuna: just dont format it
[02:34] <Appl3Kork> is there a way to install from an .rpm without using Alien?  I'm trying to install the network adapters for my laptop, that are on a USB Drive?
[02:34] <intangir> Ajuna: what Flannel said
[02:34] <Ajuna> okay thanks
[02:34] <Appl3Kork> so I can't really connect to the internet to get alien
[02:34] <giacomo> heyyy
[02:34] <Ajuna> I'm reinstalling
[02:34] <Tyrath> fryguy: ie, if I antiword myfile.doc | vim - it puts weird lines and things everywhere and doesn't show pictures
[02:34] <Flannel> Appl3Kork: You can sneakernet it, download the deb to your thumbdrive
[02:34] <Tyrath> fryguy: I understand that vim won't show pictures anyway
[02:34] <giacomo> do you know how to solve "Cannot mix incompatible Qt libraries" ?
[02:35] <Tyrath> fryguy: nor tables
[02:35] <fryguy> Tyrath: well, command line terminals aren't meant/designed for displaying graphics, so you are going to get poor results in general
[02:35] <Baversjo> Ok Guys I did not get far, how can I add windows as you said in GRUB boot loader?
[02:35] <nickrud> Baversjo, what partition is the xp?
[02:35] <ardchoille> Flannel: sneakernet, hehe, first I 've heard that term for that :)
[02:36] <Baversjo> nickrud: Number 3
[02:36] <Tyrath> fryguy: fair enough, fbgs doesn't do a bad job of formatting pdf's even tho the quality is a little less - which I don't mind
[02:36] <Ajuna> So is my /home partition affected at all by switching from 32-bit to 64-bit reinstall of 8.10?
[02:36]  * nickrud is feeling really old right now, he remembers when sneakernet was the only net
[02:36] <nickrud> Baversjo, on the first drive?
[02:36] <fryguy> Ajuna: probably not (mine is/was,  but for different reasons)
[02:36] <Ajuna> Okay thanks fry
[02:36] <Tyrath> hey, is it just me or does ubuntu do a great job of rendering DVDs - or is that just because I've updated to a good graphic driver?
[02:36] <Baversjo> nickrud: Not sure how i can get that in Ubuntu, but I know It's three. And yes, the first and only drive :)
[02:36] <nickrud> Baversjo, ok, you want to use (hd0,2) in the cloned stanza.
[02:37] <knopf> hi. is there a software that provides a menu interface for blocking/allowing countries using the "blockacountry.com" database? I would like to have a simple menu that shows "y" or "n" next to each of these countries and updates the /etc/hosts.deny files.
[02:37] <Ajuna> So during the install use manual settings with my partition lay out so it doesn't reformat my /home parition?
[02:37] <Tyrath> - cause when I watched starwars the other day it looked awesome quality
[02:37] <Tyrath> - like the best I think I've ever seen
[02:37] <Ajuna> or use the 'guided options'?
[02:37] <Demian> hi
[02:37] <Baversjo> nickrud: That doesn't say me much :( What is the "stanza"?
[02:37] <Tyrath> hi Demian
[02:37] <Demian> i am using tvtime but get no sound
[02:37] <Demian> i tried to run a command i found:
[02:37] <Dominik> nickrud: any luck on that paper?
[02:37] <[T]ank> does ubuntu not use the grub.conf? I am in live cd and not finding it.
[02:37] <Demian> sox -q -c 0.5 -s -w -r 48000 -v 1 -t ossdsp /dev/dsp1 -t ossdsp -w -r 48000 /dev/dsp
[02:37] <Flannel> [T]ank: menu.lst
[02:37] <JoshGr> hey guys, I'm trying to use Gnat-GPS to create, compile, and build ADA programs.  I've used it before and it works to perfection.  Suddenly, a few days ago, when I run "gnat-gps" from bash I get "raised SYSTEM.ASSERTIONS.ASSERT_FAILURE : glib-graphs.ads:352" and the program never launches.  Ive tried uninstalling and re-installing but the same issue arises.  Does anyone have any idea or would this be a better question for gnat-gps supp
[02:38] <Demian> it produces sound, but with lag
[02:38] <fryguy> Tyrath: probably because of updated drivers, or lack of viewing from high quality transports before
[02:38] <[T]ank> ah... thats right, thanks
[02:38] <Demian> anyone know what that command does, or have another hint?
[02:38] <Tyrath> fryguy: I just didn't get the same quality on windows for some strange reason...
[02:38] <nickrud> it's the section tht begins with # This entry automatically added by the Debian installer for a non-linux OS , mentions windows, and ends with chainloader	+1 . Make a copy of that, and change the hd to (hd0,2) <-- that's the right format for the hard drive definition
[02:38] <nickrud> Dominik, nope.
[02:38] <Tyrath> has anyone used wine for playing games designed for windows? and what were the results?
[02:38] <Tyrath> Demian: have you updated your sound drivers?
[02:39] <fryguy> Tyrath: I use the same player in every operating system i use, so it generally looks the same (and not as good as my dedicated dvd player)
[02:39] <dmulholland> hey, what's the name of the kernel package in ubuntu? I want to install an old kernel (i've added the repo, just cant find the name for the kernel package, only found the headers so far)
[02:39] <Flannel> dmulholland: linux-image-version-arch
[02:39] <dmulholland> thanks Flannel
[02:39] <Tyrath> fryguy: lol. really bizarre. but I'm convinced it's the best quality I've seen. unless it just looks better because it's rendered on a smaller screen and hence less pixels to worry about
[02:39] <carbon_monoxide> !codec
[02:40] <fryguy> Tyrath: games generally work fine
[02:40] <nickrud> Demian, I looked for the author and ati 9000 (I know it covered that) and every link that google provided. Not there, so I guess he never put it on the net, just circulated it among reviewers
[02:40] <Baversjo> nickrud: Ok I'll try that now in the Grub editor, ty :D
[02:40] <Tyrath> fryguy: high quality games?
[02:40] <[T]ank> Flannel: sorry to be lame here, every instance of the menu.lst while in the live cd is just an example... where should that file be?
[02:40] <nickrud> Dominik, that last was for you, sorry Demian
[02:40] <Tyrath> fryguy: like 3D third or first person games
[02:40] <Demian> it's ok
[02:40] <fryguy> Tyrath: my 30" monitor has about 2x the pixels of my 61" televsion, so that might be part of it. and yes high quality games
[02:40] <[T]ank> should it be /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:40] <Flannel> [T]ank: That file doesn't really exist for the liveCD, since the liveCD doesn't use GRUB.  What are you hoping to accomplish?
[02:40] <Dominik> nickrud: lol I missed it
[02:41] <Demian> Tyrath: don't know, ubuntu does by itself right?
[02:41] <Dr_willis> Live cd most likely does not have a menu.lst
[02:41] <nickrud> Dominik, look back, it was addressed to dem ian
[02:41] <Dominik> nickrud: got it
[02:41] <dmulholland> Flannel, I'm on an i386 machine but shud I install generic or i386 kernel?
[02:42] <Flannel> dmulholland: generic is what you should use, unless generic gives you problems, then fall back to the 386 one
[02:42] <Tyrath> fryguy: I tried playing KOTOR 2 via windows using a mount. and the graphics display was fine, but my cursor didn't display and the sound didn't work :/
[02:42] <[T]ank> Flannel: just trying to find some way to remove this damn language menu prior to selecting the image ;-)
[02:42] <dmulholland> thanks Flannel
[02:42] <Flannel> [T]ank: Try: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization
[02:42] <Tyrath> Demian: try: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[02:42] <nickrud> Dominik, I got on the list, but since I never had one of the older ati cards I didn't review it, except for basic details
[02:42] <[T]ank> ooo cool and helpful. ... reading now
[02:42] <Tyrath> Demian: actually what distribution are you running? - i'm not sure if this will affect it though
[02:43] <Demian> Tyrath: nothing to upgrade. ubuntu 8.04
[02:43] <Demian> i get sound, and it is ok, it only happend with tvtime, and I should run that script (sox command) to listen, but it has lags
[02:44] <Tyrath> Demian: did you install the latest version of the app?
[02:44] <Tyrath> Demian: if so did you install from apt, debian package, or source (ie, tarball)
[02:45] <Demian> Tyrath: apt
[02:45]  * Tyrath wonders if elinks would state on some pages that javascript isn't enabled if it actually is...
[02:45] <Tyrath> Demian: what does <program name> --version return?
[02:46] <Guest96434> Hey guys!!! how do you fix Hotmail? mine is hippitty gaga boubou! I can't write in the text field. Hotmail is broken boohoo
[02:46] <Tyrath> Guest96434: what browser are you using?
[02:46] <Guest96434> firefox
[02:46] <theGZA> IE7.
[02:46] <dmulholland> Guest40333, in firefox type in about::config
[02:46] <theGZA> use IE7 perhaps ;p
[02:46] <Guest96434> and then?
[02:46] <dmulholland> Guest40333, make that about:config
[02:46] <theGZA> ms = hotmail = trident
[02:46] <Demian> Tyrath: tvtime 1.0.2.
[02:46] <dmulholland> Guest96434, then search for useragent
[02:47] <Guest96434> found it
[02:47] <dmulholland> Guest96434, look for the one with vendor in the title and change the value to Firefox
[02:47] <think_linux> anyone good with ettercap in here???
[02:47] <Guest96434> current value is Ubuntu
[02:47] <dmulholland> Guest96434, change it to Firefox
[02:47] <Out_Cold> i was trying to install kde 4.1 and i get this error.. Can not install 'kubuntu-kde4-desktop' (E:Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.)
[02:47] <Guest96434> you meant general.useragent.vendor     right?
[02:48] <dmulholland> Guest96434, then all should work
[02:48] <dmulholland> Guest96434, yes
[02:48] <Guest96434> how do i save it? just close it?
[02:48] <dmulholland> Guest96434, yes
[02:48] <Dr_willis> Guest96434 or use some 'useragent changer extension'  - then again.. you could email Hotmail a nasty letter. :)  if your email worked..
[02:48] <Tyrath> Demian: I think that's the latest version :/
[02:49] <Dr_willis> Yet another reason i only use hotmail rarely.
[02:49] <Ajuna> Does anyone have a suggestion for an audio player that provides gapless playback?  Amarok inserts 'pops' and 'clicks' in between songs
[02:49] <Guest96434> a MILLION thanks dmulholland!!!!! waaaaaaahooooooo!
[02:49] <Guest96434> it works
[02:49] <ahughes> hey, anyone sucessfully using a USB HDTV tuner card? I'll put ubuntu 8.10 on my ps3 tonight, but not sure if I can expect a USB HDTV tuner to work
[02:49] <dmulholland> no worries, had to fix it for my fiancée th other day
[02:50] <Dr_willis> Hotmail Firefox Breakage --> http://support.mozilla.com/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?locale=en-US&forumId=1&comments_parentId=195460
[02:50] <Tyrath> Demian: hope this helps: http://tvtime.sourceforge.net/problems.html
[02:50] <Guest96434> wonderful
[02:50] <compu73rg33k> I have two minitors i'm setting up as dual monitors. I'm using the nVidia X Server settings. I can put the second monitor in Twin View but if I configure it to be a "Separate X Screen" it tells me to save my X Configuration and restart X server. I do so but when I restart the monitor is disabled again.
[02:50] <Tyrath> I really can't offer support for a while I gotta study for my last exam
[02:50] <Tyrath> sorry
[02:50] <Tyrath> thanks for the help tho
[02:50] <Guest96434> Good luck tyrath
[02:50] <compu73rg33k> So I can have twin view with dual monitors but cannot have them each be a separate x screen...or is this later option impossible b/c it would require two instances of xserver?
[02:50]  * Tyrath will prob offer assistance again after the exams except for small issues
[02:50] <Tyrath> Guest96434: thanks
[02:50] <dmulholland> compu73rg33k, you are generally easier with Twinview
[02:51] <compu73rg33k> I just don't like how if I switch workspaces the other screen switches workspaces too
[02:51] <dmulholland> compu73rg33k, twinview has advantages in being able to drag windows across
[02:51] <compu73rg33k> Could i make one screen have one workspace and the other have multiple ones? :x
[02:51] <dmulholland> compu73rg33k, if you set the windows to always on top then in effect you can
[02:52] <fryguy> compu73rg33k: changing your x monitor config isn't going to affect that, that's how your window manager works.  You should change your window manager if you don't like it's behavior (or modify it's settings if that is possible/appropriate)
[02:52] <cads> hey i'm here in 8.10, and I'd like to install kdevelop package... that requires the kde libraries but for some reason it's also trying to install a bunch of kde apps. Is there any way to avoid installing dolphin and kde icons etc, and install only what is needed by kdevelop/
[02:52] <dmulholland> compu73rg33k, i normally did that with a terminal on one of the screens
[02:52] <compu73rg33k> set it to always on top?
[02:52] <Dr_willis> compu73rg33k,  Its not impossible to run 2 instances of the X server..  :) but i rarely use my 2 moniotors that way.. Ijust use one WIDE desktop
[02:53] <compu73rg33k> Yeah I suppose that's what I'll do the set always on top should be a sufficient solution I think
[02:53] <dmulholland> compu73rg33k, right click the window on the task bar and there is the option
[02:53] <fryguy> compu73rg33k: there are plenty of other window managers available to try if ubuntu's default choice doesn't suit you
[02:54] <compu73rg33k> Yeah i see. So in the NVIDIA X Server Settings is the "run separate x screen" option only supposed to be used when using a single monitor? or is it supposed to function like i was asking for?
[02:55] <fryguy> compu73rg33k: it's just another way of configuring dual monitors. It won't change how those monitors are presented to your window manager
[02:55] <schnoowork> ok this is wierd, i followed the troubleshoot section on the isntalling lamp page and my browser still wants to download the .php files kind of like the AddHandler isnt even installed :S
[02:56] <Dr_willis> compu73rg33k,  with it - i belive you some how spawn a seperate X session, and you could  Jump from one monitor to the other with alt-ctrl-F7 and alt-ctrl-F8    So you could for example have a Media Player on Monitor #2 thats not bothered by anyone doing stuff on #1
[02:56] <panfist> in the default ubuntu skin if you open a folder in nautilus it has the icon in the bottom panel as the file ops dialog. someone could accidentally right click > close it thinking they are closing a file browser window and cancel a file operation without confirmation
[02:57] <Out_Cold> how do i mount an iso file?
[02:57] <compu73rg33k> Yeah that's what I was going for Dr_willis although I don't really have the time or desire to put forth a lot of extra work to get that configured
[02:57] <carbon_monoxide> !jre
[02:57] <Flannel> !iso | Out_Cold
[02:57] <fryguy> right, and you would need to deal with clipboard sharing, keyboard/mouse sharing, and it will take the resources of 2 x servers, and usually graphics cards can only provide acceleration to one x session at a time (the driver will obtain a lock on the device for acceleration), so one x server will take up much more cpu than the other
[02:57] <dmulholland> compu73rg33k, sometimes it will work as you were asking, I got it working once but it isnt great to be honest
[02:57] <Dr_willis> compu73rg33k,  i dont use it that way anyway..I drag the media player to monitor #2 and just mazamize it.. :) twinview max's it to JUST that monitor.. muche less hassle.
[02:57] <dmulholland> compu73rg33k, the lack of ability to drag windows across made it a pain
[02:58] <dmulholland> compu73rg33k, especially when you are used to doing that on dual monitors at work in windows
[02:58] <Soopa> hi all, I'm trying to play World of Warcraft using wine.  Everything works fine, but my 5.1 sound doesn't work (it just comes out of two speakers).  Anyone know where to look regarding this issue?
[02:58] <compu73rg33k> yeah I can see how that would actually be a bigger set back than just setting things to always on top
[02:58] <Dr_willis> Twinview in wide-screen mode. :)lets you drag stuff around from one monitor to the other.
[02:58] <compu73rg33k> who uses windows? :P
[02:58] <fryguy> compu73rg33k: i do
[02:58] <compu73rg33k> :(
[02:58] <Dr_willis> I gotta hook my my other monitor this weekend..
[02:58] <compu73rg33k> tri-view?
[02:58] <Out_Cold> thanks Flannel
[02:58] <kansan> i have a repo, and i'm trying to bring in some external projects with svn:externals but i'm starting to hate life.  i have the root, and then i have: /vendor, and specifically /vendor/openx.  its my desire to throw https://svn.openx.org/openx/tags/2.6/openx-2.6.3/ into the /vendor/openx, then commit my project... .so from the /vendor/ directory i did: svn propedit svn:externals . ;   and put in:  openx https://svn.openx.org/openx/tags/2.6/o
[02:58] <kansan> penx-2.6.3/ .... then within /vendor/ i did svn update;  (1) when i had already added openx to the svn repo i got:  "Fetching external item into 'openx'; svn: Working copy 'openx' locked; svn: run cleanup blah; "... (2) when i didnt have it added i got:  "Fetching external item into 'openx'; Skipped '.' ... what to do now?
[02:59] <Dr_willis> I normmally use 1 monitor + 1 tv :)
[02:59] <fryguy> kansan: ask in #subversion
[02:59] <Flannel> kansan: Try #svn
[02:59] <lym> away
[02:59] <kansan> no one has asnwered that all dayu
[02:59] <panfist> fryguy is 40MB/s a normal speed for software raid5 over four drives?
[02:59] <kansan> bhtanks though
[03:00] <fryguy> panfist: depends on the drives and the controller they are on, among other things
[03:00] <fryguy> my current raid5 array does about 250mb/s in both directions.  it's also a hardware array now.  When it was a software array it was doing roughly the same speeds
[03:01] <fryguy> that's with 5 disks, with 4 it was doing just over 200
[03:01] <compu73rg33k> Ah dmulholland the real option we were discussing is "Always on visible workspace"
[03:01] <panfist> fryguy they are wd10eacs 1tb 5400rpm 16mb cache on amd sb700
[03:01] <dmulholland> compu73rg33k, yeah you're right :) my bad
[03:01] <fryguy> panfist: sorry, i don't have encyclopedic knowledge of the performance of every hard drive/controller configuration on the market
[03:02] <compu73rg33k> Anyway my other problem is with the ctrl + X hotkey. For some reason when I installed ubuntu intrepid, ctrl + x has been hotkeyed as close window for only a select few applications, namely XChat, Calculator and gftp
[03:02] <sjdurfey> are there plans to update the version of Eclipse in the repos anytime soon? the repo is two releases behind
[03:02] <fryguy> sjdurfey: no
[03:02] <compu73rg33k> I've specifically chosen close window to be ctrl + shift + w which also works in those 3 programs
[03:02] <Byrnison> Aptitude wants to remove about twenty packages on any operation. How do I fix this?
[03:02] <Flannel> sjdurfey: There are.  You can get specifics in #ubuntu-motu
[03:02] <sjdurfey> Flannel: thanks
[03:03] <zhan_zr> Byrnison: Cancel your operation
[03:03] <Guest82961> ok im going crazy here i cannot get intreped to work with an intel integrated video card on a dell inspiron 1100
[03:03] <Guest82961> ive tried everything.
[03:03] <Guest82961> has anyone done this ?
[03:03] <Byrnison> zhan_zr: That isn't the problem, I simply don't know how to fix it.
[03:04] <zhan_zr> Byrnison: What do you want to fix?
[03:04] <Guest82961> I can only get it working with vesa.  and yes i have the a32 bios update
[03:04] <Byrnison> zhan_zr: I would appreciate it not asking to remove 20 packages! Sorry...
[03:04] <Flannel> Byrnison: What package are you removing?
[03:04] <zhan_zr> Byrnison: Generally, you can't
[03:04] <wene> hello
[03:05] <zhan_zr> Byrnison: There are very complex dependcies between them.
[03:05] <Byrnison> zhan_zr: It's probably because I removed the kde metapackage, now it wants to get rid of everything kde depended on...
[03:05] <Flannel> Byrnison: Use apt-get instead of aptitude
[03:05] <theGZA> if i have 4 partitions, 1 ext3 ( this ubuntu 6.10 ), 1 windows main, 1 ntfs storage ( 400 gb ) and 1 for swap ( 3 gb ) .. will it be a pain just to upgrade the ubuntu itself? i should be ok with 8.10 CD?
[03:05] <zhan_zr> Byrnison: You can't use a package on the air
[03:05] <theGZA> Flannel: Why not aptitude?
[03:05] <zhan_zr> Byrnison: They have their base package.
[03:06] <Flannel> theGZA: Because aptitude gets overzealous with automated removal at times.
[03:06] <wene> i have added a mount point in the properties of a manually mounted partition and now, i cannot mount it because there is a wrong character in the mount location. do you know where i can modify it ?
[03:06] <panfist> fryguy 40MB seems low for drives that should get 80MB in a single drive configuration. i think i will do some detailed performance tests with more settings and post a review.  i cannot seem to find a good recent analysis. the linux raid wiki could use some elaboration on typical performance
[03:06] <Flannel> theGZA: of course, he still hasn't told us what package he's removing
[03:06] <zhan_zr> Byrnison: Such as, if you don't have a X system, how can you use a gnome desktop.
[03:06] <Byrnison> Never mind, I figured it out... I had to run "aptitude install" on all the packages it was trying to get rid of for me.
[03:07] <Flannel> zhan_zr: You can have gnome without an X server, not without an X client.
[03:07] <Byrnison> Technically I don't use Gnome at all, but KDE... although more recently I'm starting to appreciate wmii.
[03:07] <fryguy> Flannel: "an X client?" what do you mean
[03:07] <zhan_zr> Flannel: Oh, I didn't know about this.
[03:08] <Ajuna> If you have 6 gigs of ram should your swap partition be 6 gigs?
[03:08] <Ajuna> that's a ton of space
[03:08] <Out_Cold> Ajuna, 1 gb is plenty
[03:08] <rww> Ajuna: if you want to use suspend/hibernate, yes
[03:08] <Flannel> fryguy: X has clients and servers.  You connect to a X client with an X server, and can run stuff on the client machine where its displayed on the server machine.
[03:08] <Ajuna> damn
[03:08] <Byrnison> The problem was that when I installed the kde meta-package, it pulled in dependencies I did not want. When I removed them, it also removed the kde meta-package, as dependencies ensured. The problem was that aptitude wanted to be "smart" and remove the other, "unnecessary" dependecies in addition.
[03:08] <After_Math> Can anyone tell me or give me a link to a good guide on how to install Windows after an Ubuntu installation?
[03:08] <fryguy> Flannel: right, so gnome doesn't HAVE an x client, it IS an X client, right?
[03:09] <Flannel> fryguy: No, gnome runs inside X on the client side.
[03:09] <fuxxy_> fryguy, gnome is a windowmanager that runs on top of an X server.
[03:09] <fryguy> fuxxy_: no it's not
[03:09] <Byrnison> fuxxy_: Gnome is a desktop environment, not a WM.
[03:09] <Frijolie> when you install something from a tarball, once it's installed is it safe to delete the newly created directory?
[03:09] <Byrnison> Frijolie: yes.
[03:09] <fryguy> Flannel: what client does it run inside of
[03:09] <Flannel> fryguy: What?
[03:09] <Flannel> fryguy: X
[03:10] <After_Math> !windows
[03:10] <zhan_zr> Frijolie: Yes
[03:10] <fryguy> Flannel: you just said it runs inside X on the client side.  Which client does it run inside of if it isn't an x client itself?
[03:10] <Frijolie> Byrnison: thanks
[03:10] <Byrnison> fryguy: Technically, Gnome is several programs. There is a program that draws the panels, a program that draws the background, and so on.
[03:10] <olskolirc> hey guys what program do we use such as Dreamweaver for M$ Windows?  anyone know?
[03:10] <Frijolie> zhan_zr: thanks
[03:10] <Byrnison> fryguy: An X client is merely any program making use of the GUI.
[03:10] <Byrnison> fryguy: Some of which are part of Gnome.
[03:10] <skylarS> olskolirc, html wysiwyg?
[03:10] <Out_Cold> olskolirc, kompozer is a WYSIWYG web developer app
[03:10] <Ajuna> So I have to calculate what 6GB is in MB to mark sure my swap isn't too small for suspend/hibernate?
[03:11] <oakmac1> What is the command to reload my hardware?  something involving udev?
[03:11] <musikgoat> Ajuna: 6x1024
[03:11] <fryguy> Byrnison: yes, i realize that, flannel seems to be suggesting something different, so I am seeking clarification (I use x clients on a remote x server on a daily basis, so i'm looking for some clarification here)
[03:11] <Ajuna> ah thanks
[03:11] <olskolirc> yes sKylarS
[03:11] <olskolirc> oh ok ty Out_Cold
[03:11] <Flannel> fryguy: with X, the "server" is run on the machine with the keyboard, mouse, monitor.  The clients are on the machine you're connecting to remotely (or not so remotely)
[03:11] <AstralSin> i just installed intrepid on my laptop but i get a grub error 15 on reboot, any known fixes for this?
[03:12] <fryguy> Flannel: yes, I understand that. So is gnome an x Client, or does it run inside of one like you suggested before?
[03:12] <musikgoat> heh
[03:13] <Appl3Kork> ok so I just downloaded the tar.gz file of alien, but how do I install it through terminal?
[03:13] <Flannel> Appl3Kork: download the deb, http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid/alien
[03:13] <jrib> Appl3Kork: throw it in the trash.  You don't need it.  In general, avoid alien
[03:13] <Appl3Kork> all the tutorials show how to install by doing sudo apt-get install alien, but I have no internet access, cause the drivers arent installed
[03:13] <Appl3Kork> ok
[03:13] <Appl3Kork> thanks
[03:13] <fryguy> Flannel: and how does this affect the interactions of things like xpra, xnest, xmove, and other compositing techniques of forwarding a client to another x server transparently?
[03:13] <Flannel> Appl3Kork: then just double click the deb
[03:14] <Appl3Kork> thanks Flannel
[03:14] <cpro> hey can any budy please tell me how to do video chat using google cat in ubuntu
[03:14] <panfist> fryguy any explanation for why large file transfer inevitably stop?
[03:15] <fryguy> no
[03:15] <oakmac1> I have an external sound card that will occasionally crash (it used to do this in Windows, so I know it's specific to this piece of hardware).  When I reset the sound card I have no sound in Ubuntu.  How can I tell Ubuntu to "reload" my hardware?
[03:15] <panfist> other than they complete lol
[03:15] <musikgoat> panfist: disk space?
[03:15] <panfist> musikgoat i dont think so, its 100GB onto 3TB
[03:15] <musikgoat> seemed too easy :-)
[03:16] <fryguy> Flannel: "gnome runs inside X on the client side."  can you clarify this statement?  I'm confused
[03:16] <panfist> can i get some more feedback by moving in the command line?
[03:16] <Appl3Kork> Flannel, I opened the deb file, and it says in red Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: debhelper
[03:16] <jrib> panfist: -v maybe?  check dmesg
[03:16] <Flannel> Appl3Kork: then you'll need to download debhelper too (if you look at that site, it lists the dependencies, should be two more clicks)
[03:17] <Appl3Kork> what are dependencies anyway?
[03:17] <jrib> Appl3Kork: things that are depended on
[03:17] <jrib> Appl3Kork: why do you need alien?
[03:18] <panfist> the last thing i see in dmesg is clean mount: [ 4432.022884] Ending clean XFS mount for filesystem: md0
[03:18] <Flannel> cpro: Google Talk does audio through jingle (which is a protocol extension), jingle also supports video, so if google is using that, you may be able to use any of the number of clients that support jingle with varying degrees of success, there's a list here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jingle_(protocol)
[03:18] <After_Math> no one can give me info on how to install Windows? after installing Ubuntu?
[03:18] <jrib> !grub > after_math
[03:18] <panfist> aftermath the general rule is to always install ubuntu last
[03:19] <jrib> After_Math: install windows and then reinstall grub
[03:19] <genii-around> After_Math: It's usually done the other way round so you can boot both
[03:19] <cpro> Flannel thanks let me try
[03:19] <rww> After_Math: I've used http://apcmag.com/how_to_dualboot_vista_with_linux_linux_is_already_installed.htm before and it worked for me
[03:19] <hillshum_> How do I connect to a server using a terminal?
[03:19] <After_Math> thanks jrib , genii-around I know, but I dont use windows, but I feel like playing WoW again so I want to install it again
[03:19] <Eulalia> In htop, my cpu is stuck at 100% :\
[03:19] <jrib> After_Math: apparently wow runs in wine
[03:19] <fryguy> hillshum_: how do you want to connect to a server? telnet? ssh? http? ftp?
[03:19] <Eulalia> Two of my programs are 60%+
[03:20] <Out_Cold> hillshum_, ssh x.x.x.x
[03:20] <After_Math> jrib, is it easy though?
[03:20] <Eulalia> And SIGTERM won't kill them :\
[03:20] <Eulalia> Nor will SIGKILL
[03:20] <jrib> After_Math: I don't know.  Check appdb.winehq.org
[03:20] <panfist> after_math you can resize your partitions in ubuntu, reinstall windows, then reinstall grub from the live cd to boot into your original ubuntu. or you can run wow in wine
[03:20] <jrib> !wow | After_Math
[03:20] <hillshum_> http i think (fileshare a home network
[03:20] <hillshum_> )
[03:20] <atarinox> Quick question: what are these app launchers that look like OSX? here: http://www.gnome-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=1&id=91647&file1=91647-1.jpg&file2=91647-2.jpg&file3=&name=deviant+desktop+%5Boct.+08%5D
[03:20] <After_Math> thanks rww
[03:21] <After_Math> I guess I can try Wine again
[03:21] <Eulalia> Why can't I kill these programs?
[03:21] <Eulalia> :|
[03:21] <musikgoat> atarinox: i believe thats awn (avant window manager)
[03:21] <musikgoat> !awn | atarinox
[03:22] <rww> Eulalia: which processes are they?
[03:22] <zheng_> f
[03:22] <olskolirc> after i put all of my files in a folder, what is the command to turn it into an .iso?
[03:23] <fryguy> Flannel: "gnome runs inside X on the client side."  can you clarify this statement?  I'm confused
[03:24] <hillshum_> fryguy: i need to connect to a home network but the docs leave out some xfce stuff i need
[03:25] <musikgoat> olskolirc: is this just a data image olskolirc or do you plan to use it for video?
[03:25] <[T]ank> so I am trying to customize my livecd and am getting the following error when trying to make some changes: make: mkbootmsg: Command not found. make: *** [bootdir] Error 127
[03:25] <[T]ank> what am i missing
[03:25] <olskolirc> data musikgoat
[03:25] <[T]ank> google not helping at this point
[03:25] <heavy> how do i find out where apt-get installed files from a paackage?
[03:25] <ubuntu> Can any body help me installing my ubuntu 7.10
[03:25] <Flannel> heavy: dpkg -L package
[03:25] <musikgoat> olskolirc: you can use brasero for a gui, or dd for the terminal
[03:25] <fryguy> heavy: you can use dpkg -L (i think, review the manpage for switches) to list the contents of a package
[03:25] <musikgoat> olskolirc: which do you prefer?
[03:26] <Out_Cold> sure ubuntu what's up?
[03:26] <heavy> Flannel: fryguy: thanks guys
[03:26] <olskolirc> terminal
[03:26] <musikgoat> dd if=/location of=name.iso
[03:26] <musikgoat> olskolirc: ^^
[03:27] <olskolirc> oh im not making one right now musikgoat this is for future reference
[03:27] <olskolirc> in case i have to tonight
[03:27] <musikgoat> olskolirc: thats the command
[03:27] <olskolirc> ok thanks
[03:28] <FloridaGuy> everyone was right..uninstalling and reinstalling gnome...dident help the problem
[03:30] <subdolus> how can I find out what gfx drivers my install has for Xorg?
[03:30] <subdolus> ie, a list of abvailable drivers
[03:30] <subdolus> -b
[03:31] <Smegzor> I can't boot into the live session on one computer.  The only cd's that have worked are knoppix and puppy.  I need to disable lots of stuff.  What should I put in the boot options?  I have already tried the basics suggested by the cd.
[03:31] <xiooli> anybody knows how to change the theme of gnome at a system level?
[03:32] <idisjunction> Smegzor - does the computer have enough RAM?
[03:32] <ubuntu> can i install ubuntu wiyhout booting from the live cd?
[03:32] <ubuntu> can i install ubuntu wiyhout booting from the live cd?
[03:32] <ubuntu> can i install ubuntu wiyhout booting from the live cd?
[03:32] <FloodBot3> ubuntu: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:32] <Appl3Kork> Flannel, everytime I go to open one of the deb files, it says it needs another deb file, and just keeps going?  Is there any other options to doing this?  I tried ethernet, but it's not connecting.
[03:32] <Smegzor> 256mb (barely)
[03:32] <idisjunction> Ubuntu needs 512
[03:32] <fryguy> Flannel: "gnome runs inside X on the client side."  can you clarify this statement?  I'm confused
[03:32] <Flannel> ubuntu: Yes.  Use the alternate CD
[03:32] <Flannel> fryguy: No, I won't.  Stop trolling.
[03:32] <fryguy> excuse me?
[03:32] <ubuntu> can i install ubuntu without booting from the live cd?
[03:32] <ubuntu> can i install ubuntu without booting from the live cd?
[03:32] <ubuntu> can i install ubuntu without booting from the live cd?
[03:32] <FloodBot3> ubuntu: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:33] <xiooli> anybody knows how to change the theme of gnome at a system level?
[03:33] <FloridaGuy> medacity installed..gnome-settings-daemon is installed.....gnome is reminding me of widows 98..2000...if i open xchat...then open a terminal...the terminal sits on top of xchat..and i cant get to it....the bat at the top of the windows that has the close (x) and the minamise is gone...
[03:33] <Smegzor> hmm..  will the alternate cd allow me to at least run a shell?  I want to get sshfs set up so I can scan the computer and fix all the virii on it.
[03:33] <Flannel> Smegzor: No, alternate CD is just an installer, no live system
[03:33] <fryguy> Flannel: I want to run gnome on a remote x server, and want to know what this X client I need to install is that you mention
[03:33] <idisjunction> Yes, you can run a shell from the alternate. You can install from it, too
[03:34] <idisjunction> Try a Xubuntu LiveCD first
[03:34] <fryguy> what just happened?
[03:34] <GeorgeAScott> im wanting to install on an old powermac g3.  do i have to download the ppc iso? or can i somehow use one of my other installers?
[03:34] <Smegzor> ok well i'll grab the alternate cd and give it a shot.  I could just boot into XP and scan from there but that wouldn't be cheating.
[03:34] <Dominik> can I upgrade/downgrade/swith from ubuntu to Xubuntu without reinstall?
[03:35] <Flannel> Dominik: you can.  install the xubuntu-desktop package to install xubuntu, if you want to remove Ubuntu, you can do that too.
[03:35] <ubuntu> can i install ubuntu without booting from the live cd?
[03:35] <Flannel> !purexfce | Dominik
[03:35] <idisjunction> Yes. sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop. sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[03:35] <ubuntu> can i install ubuntu without booting from the live cd?
[03:35] <ubuntu> can i install ubuntu without booting from the live cd?
[03:35] <ubuntu> can i install ubuntu without booting from the live cd?
[03:35] <FloodBot3> ubuntu: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:35] <PseudoOne> uh
[03:35] <Dominik> Flannel: id like to be able to switch in log in session, I like gnome, but most of the time I prolly won't need it
[03:36] <Flannel> Dominik: right.  Then all you have to do is install xubuntu-desktop, and you'll be able to choose at GDM
[03:36] <Dominik> so I don't need synaptic manager, I just do install xubuntu-desktop?
[03:36] <Dominik> mhh, that sounds too easy
[03:36] <Flannel> Dominik: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop will work, or you can use synaptic, or whatever your favorite package manager is
[03:37] <VPS|KDE> Flannel: why do most of chan ops on freenode stay deopped until needed? just curious
[03:37] <FloridaGuy> looks like i might have to go back to mint to get a working gnome
[03:37] <Flannel> Appl3Kork: It can't go too far, since alien doesn't depend on a whole lot.  Synaptic has the capability to generate a download script for all the packages needed, but I believe you'd (obviously) have to be connected at least once first, to get the list of everything
[03:38] <Dominik> ok, my swap partition turns off after every reboot, and also after hibernate/suspend, which causes my system to crash after resume, not enough mem... what do I do?
[03:38] <michelcias> hey there.. can anybody speak with me?
[03:38] <Flannel> VPS|KDE: Its freenode policy. http://freenode.net/channel_guidelines.shtml
[03:38] <VPS|KDE> ah ok
[03:38] <Guest95727> hey guys... just wondering if there is a shortcut key to minimize everything to see the desktop?????
[03:39] <[T]ank> anyone know how to get past that make error?
[03:39] <alex_> hey I am trying to install new v4l modules from this website (http://linuxtv.org/v4lwiki/index.php/How_to_build_from_Mercurial) and I am hanging up on this line (look in the Errata - Loading Modules section): "for file in `find /lib/modules -name "*.ko"`; do if  -e $file.gz ; then echo "$file.gz should be removed"; fi; done" only I get an error that says -e isn't a command. Can anyone translate this and figure out what I should add to fix this?
[03:40] <wene> is there someone that have 5 mins to loose with my mount problem ?
[03:40] <alex_> wene what's wrong
[03:40] <X4D> Hi, I'm trying to follow the instructions on this guide https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VirtualBoxNetworking but when I restart the network I get failed to bind address already in use, what IP's should I use ?
[03:41] <jblack> Does anyone know of a new version of libgtkmm-2.4-dev coming in for intrepid? There's a pair of small bugs in the headers that have been fixed upstream back in august, that seem to still be present in intrepid (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gtkmm2.4/+bug/275397)
[03:41] <wene> i have changed the properties of a mounted partition and unmounted it. and now, i cannot mount it anymore because it tells me that there are bad characters int he mount point
[03:41] <alex_> what did you change
[03:42] <alex_> (what fs also)
[03:42] <DKPhoenix> can anyone help with an ati x850 driver issue in 8.10?
[03:43] <wene> i have a partition formated in fat and i mounted it with double clicking on the hard disk icon, and i have changed the properties
[03:43] <idisjunction> X4D - You shouldn't use the 10.10.x.x range listed if your router also operates in that range.
[03:43] <alex_> which properties did you change - title? flag?
[03:43] <alex_> did you change the name to something with punctuation or something other than basica alphanumeric characters?
[03:44] <n8tuser> X4D  can you paste your ifconfig -a  and /etc/network/interfaces contents?
[03:44] <Hilton> Has anyone heard any updates on the whole issue with Ubuntu 8.10 / ati driver / fglrx driver / R300-series cards?
[03:44] <jimmy01> where should i go to discuss ubuntu server edition?
[03:44] <DerFicker> Hi guys.How can I mount a s60 v2 phone via bt in linux?
[03:45] <DerFicker> actually ubuntu 8.04
[03:45] <wene> alex: in the "colume" tab i have changed "mount point" in "parameters"
[03:45] <wene> "volume"*
[03:45] <L33B> I have an issue, i cannot for the life of me figure out how to get my 1600x1050@60 hz to stick, any ideas?
[03:45] <alex_> wene from what to what
[03:45] <compu73rg33k> Where's the option in CompizConfig Settings Manager to stop from scrolling to the next desktop with the mouse wheel
[03:46] <compu73rg33k> very annoying especialy since when you get to a desktop with a window it stops the scrolling so its' a pretty useless feature
[03:46] <koops> 8.10 has a lot of problems with xserver... dont know whats going on there
[03:46] <ahughes> whats up with MythTV, does that only work with v7.10?
[03:46]  * arrogance is back.
[03:46] <fryguy> I'm trying to run gnome on a remote x server.  Someone told me I need to install an x client for gnome to run in.  What client is this and how do I install it?
[03:46] <Guest95727> hey guys... just wondering if there is a shortcut key to minimize everything to see the desktop?????
[03:46] <jimmy01> hey guys, what channel should i go to to discuss the server edition?
[03:46] <X4D> n8tuser: http://pastebin.com/d4bff77ff
[03:47] <compu73rg33k> Guest95727, if you install compizconfig-settings-manager you can configure that
[03:47] <compu73rg33k> I'm not sure if it's enabled by default though
[03:47] <alex_> compu73rg33k go to viewport switcher and the third tab
[03:47] <n8tuser> jimmy01-> here is okay
[03:47] <DerFicker> @<fryguy> its the button on the lower left that does the job
[03:47] <Guest95727> ohh ok
[03:47] <X4D> n8tuser: my first router uses 192.168.1.1 and the second is in 10.1.1.1
[03:47] <alex_> compu73rg33k disable move next and move prev
[03:47] <fsufitch_> hi. i'm using ubuntu 8.10 on a dell xps m1330. I can't burn CDs, as no matter what i do, when i put in a blank CD the computer never recognizes there is actually any media (full or blank) inserted. the same drive burned fine in hardy, and can also read CDs right now.
[03:47] <fryguy> DerFicker: ?
[03:47] <wene> alex: values were empty and i added /mnt/my-partition
[03:47] <DerFicker> opps sorry
[03:48] <DKPhoenix> is anyone else having problems with graphics drivers in 8.10?
[03:48] <Hilton> hmm
[03:48] <compu73rg33k> Thanks alex_
[03:48] <Hilton> Just a question: Can anyone see my lines?
[03:48] <alex_> wene did you mount as superuser
[03:48] <jimmy01> I want to set up a home server on an old desktop computer. Would it be easier to just install the Ubuntu desktop edition and configure it to be a server, or should I install the server edition??
[03:48] <n8tuser> X4D-> what do you mean you have a 2nd router? can you elaborate on your network layout?
[03:48] <jpablanche> what is the channel for java?
[03:48] <alex_> wene try and undo that  - normally nautilus should automatically mount volumes in the sidebar
[03:48] <onthefence9281> i'm having trouble with my java on ubuntu 8.04, how od i make sure i am running the latest java?
[03:48] <jpablanche> java channel is but registration required
[03:48] <n8tuser> jimmy01-> same difference really,
[03:48] <alex_> wene just click on it
[03:48] <rdw200169_> jimmy01: it's best to install ubuntu server... because it won't have X Windows
[03:49] <n8tuser> onthefence9281-> java -version should tell you
[03:49] <jimmy01> can I start X windows from terminal, i mean does it just not boot running x windows?
[03:49] <Smegzor> If I put wubi on the pc, does windows run in the background when I'm using wubi or is it more like a dual boot?
[03:49] <rdw200169_> jimmy01: are you ... comfortable... on the terminal?
[03:49] <jpablanche> the channel for java is required registratioon?
[03:49] <jimmy01> yes
[03:49] <n8tuser> jpablanche-> visit the nicer folks in undernet.org  much much nicer java people there
[03:49] <rdw200169_> jimmy01: it doesn't install any of that stuff, at all
[03:49] <fryguy> jimmy01: it's not installed. you would have to install it afterwards if you wanted to use it
[03:49] <compu73rg33k> What's the difference between viewport switcher hotkeys and the Wall hotkeys?
[03:49] <compu73rg33k> I guess viewport switching bindings just wouldn't use the wall stuff?
[03:50] <jpablanche> ok ill try
[03:50] <jimmy01> ok, i see
[03:50] <onthefence9281> n8tuser: is openJDK 1.6.0 just as good as sun version? will they be detected the same by all programs/IDEs?
[03:50] <jimmy01> thanks a lot for the help guys!!!
[03:50] <rdw200169_> jimmy01: but the server gurus suggest *strongly* that you refrain from using X windows on a server
[03:50] <jimmy01> because of the memomry and cpu usage??
[03:50] <rdw200169_> jimmy01: do you have a monitor to use while you install ubuntu server?
[03:50] <X4D> n8tuser: the first router 10.1.1.1 is connected to the telephone line and that connects directly to a WRT54GL 192.168.1.1 where the rest of the machines are connected to.
[03:50] <narothepharoh> Whats a good program to compress files so you can send through email?
[03:50] <fryguy> Flannel: can you help me? you were the one who guided me so far.
[03:50] <jimmy01> yes
[03:50] <n8tuser> onthefence9281-> my experience with non sun java has been lots of hair pulling, id stick with sun java, if it was me
[03:50] <rdw200169_> jimmy01: no, it's more related to the ports and such that X windows utilizes, networkwise
[03:51] <jimmy01> why do ask about the monitor?
[03:51] <Flannel> fryguy: Please drop it.  You're not actually in need of support, and are only contributing to noise.
[03:51] <onthefence9281> n8tuser: ok i think i just installed teh sun version, how do i make it my default or w/e?
[03:51] <narothepharoh> Whats a good program to compress files so you can send through email?
[03:51] <fryguy> Flannel: I sure am in need of support. I stated my question above.  Is there a problem with my question?
[03:51] <rdw200169_> jimmy01: you can't install the normal version of ubuntu server without one, because they don't enable serial access, or ssh access, via the normal installer
[03:51] <n8tuser> onthefence9281-> use update-alternatives,  google for the instructions
[03:52] <rdw200169_> jimmy01: but it is possible without, you would have to rebuild the cd, but since you have a monitor, it's not that big of a deal
[03:52] <n8tuser> X4D-> and does that config work?
[03:52] <narothepharoh> Whats a good program to compress files so you can send through email?
[03:52] <rdw200169_> jimmy01: just keep in mind, that if there is a problem, and you can't access it via ssh, that you'll have to plug in the monitor
[03:52] <jimmy01> so I have to install all of those capabilities after the install directly on the server terminal (using the monitor)
[03:52] <boobsbr> hi all! I would like to thank everyone a lot, because Intrepid helped me solve a problem I had with my video card drivers since Hardy. the power cable was disconnected from the video card and X/GDM diagnosed it. THANK YOU Ubuntu commmunity!!!
[03:52] <genii-around> narothepharoh: 7zip
[03:53] <n8tuser> !who
[03:53] <X4D> n8tuser: yes it's been working for the past 3 years perfectly
[03:53] <wene> alex: i can see it on the left side bar, but i dont have the properties anymore, i only have the "mount" option that is not working
[03:53] <sazma> I upgraded to 8.10 and now my flash plugin freezes after firefox has been up for a while. Works fine at first, and then gets all wonky. I've removed pulseaudio, install nonfree-flashplugin-extraaudio(or w/e) and I can't seem to make it work reliably... done a lot of googling and tried a lot of stuff. Anyone have any pointers?
[03:53] <rdw200169_> jimmy01: sort of, the best way is to install ssh-server via taskselect during the install
[03:53] <matthias> hi hiw do i install glibc and where do i get glibc, the repository and if so glibc-source or some where else ...
[03:53] <rdw200169_> jimmy01: then, if you set up networking during the install, you should be able to reboot and ssh in there, and unplug the monitor
[03:53] <n8tuser> X4D-> somehow i missed the issue you are having? if any?
[03:53] <rdw200169_> jimmy01: but this depends on all the networking of course,
[03:53] <jimmy01> nice.. sounds like a lot of fun
[03:53] <fryguy> matthias: you already have glibc installed
[03:54] <cishpix> narothepharoh: bzip is good and very small capacity
[03:54] <onthefence9281> n8tuser: thanks, that helped
[03:54] <n8tuser> X4D-> you guest is not able to access the internet?
[03:54] <rdw200169_> jimmy01: it's possible to give yourself a serial back-door, but that requires a null-modem cable, and perhaps a usb-serial adapter if your motherboard doesn't have a direct 9-pin serial port
[03:54] <narothepharoh> genii-around: how can i get it? it wont install on terminal.
[03:54] <matthias> fryguy:  i tried dpkg -s glibc and tells me it is not installed ...
[03:54] <rdw200169_> jimmy01: or parallel port
[03:54] <onthefence9281> anyone know how well e17 works on ubuntu?
[03:54] <X4D> n8tuser: Well I followed the instructions on this guide https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VirtualBoxNetworking and I get an error ~$ sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[03:54] <X4D>  * Reconfiguring network interfaces...                                          Set 'vbox0' persistent and owned by uid 0
[03:54] <X4D> dnsmasq: failed to bind listening socket for fe80::80e3:4dff:feee:e552: Address already in use
[03:54] <X4D> Failed to bring up vbox0.
[03:54] <FloodBot3> X4D: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:55] <jimmy01> it is an old HP desktop computer
[03:55] <n8tuser> onthefence9281-> you're welcome, good luck
[03:55] <jimmy01> I am unsure of the specs off hand.
[03:55] <genii-around> !info p7zip | narothepharoh
[03:55] <rdw200169_> jimmy01: i personally believe that a monitor should *never* need a monitor, it's not apropos for the situation, so i always go back and enable serial access all over the place
[03:55] <rdw200169_> jimmy01: then again, i've been in situations when a monitor wasn'
[03:55] <rdw200169_> jimmy01: t available...
[03:55] <giacomo> I've just deleted the whole qt* group of packet and reinstalled vlc with the dependencies, same "Cannot mix incompatible Qt libraries" . Anybody else has this problem
[03:56] <matthias> fryguy:  or how do i verify package installed and version, i am going to install my video card driver for ati mobility radeon x1400 ...
[03:56] <jimmy01> you sound very knowledgable rdw200169
[03:56] <rdw200169_> jimmy01: i mean, server need a monitor... heh
[03:56] <jimmy01> I want to use the server to tunnel to from school.
[03:56] <n8tuser> X4D-> what changed from the last 3 years that you said were working?
[03:56] <rdw200169_> jimmy01: check this out, it documents how to enable serial access if you wanna look into it: http://greamin.com/server/ServerGuide.html
[03:56] <jimmy01> We are blocked from things like IRC chat.
[03:56] <fryguy> matthias: i am unsure of that
[03:56] <X4D> I followed the guide here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VirtualBoxNetworking but I get an error dnsmasq: failed to bind listening socket for x... Address already in use
[03:57] <matthias> fryguy: ok
[03:57] <rdw200169_> jimmy01: whooops. http://greamin.com/server/server_guide.html
[03:57] <fryguy> matthias: maybe dpkg --get-selections? I dunno
[03:57] <rdw200169_> jimmy01: ah, that's easy, just use ssh tunneling
[03:57] <rdw200169_> jimmy01: over port 80
[03:57] <n8tuser> X4D-> dont you need to restart vbox also in priority perhaps?
[03:58] <X4D> n8tuser: when I restart the network, so I'm a little confused on what IP's I should set up in the interfaces file for vbox to connect
[03:58] <jimmy01> One more question rdw because you are so helpful.
[03:58] <rdw200169_> jimmy01: shoot
[03:58] <giacomo> I've just deleted the whole qt* group of packet and reinstalled vlc with the dependencies, same "Cannot mix incompatible Qt libraries" . Anybody else has this problem ?
[03:58] <n8tuser> X4D-> what changed from the last 3 years that you said were working?  you added an interface?
[03:58] <jimmy01> I have a wireless router, and two computers on the network. I have to forward the SSH port in order to tunnel to one of my computers from school correct?
[03:59] <rdw200169_> jimmy01: yes,
[03:59] <X4D> n8tuser: no problems with my connections outside of Virtualbox, thing is Virtualbox is not connecting properly
[03:59] <jimmy01> any details on that process?
[03:59] <narothepharoh> genii-around: how do i run after installed? i cant find it anywhere
[03:59] <n8tuser> X4D-> inside your guest, check your route table
[04:00] <rdw200169_> jimmy01: there are several ways to approach this, the best is to get a free domain, or buy your own (godaddy.com) and set up a zonedns account for dynamic ip address update, then either use ddclient, or if your wireless router supports it, update your IP on the DNS server that way
[04:00] <rdw200169_> jimmy01: this gets you around the issue of dynamic ip assignment from the ISP
[04:00] <X4D> n8tuser: ok, will do, thanks
[04:01] <jimmy01> yes, that is the problem! this is great.. I use comcast. what is the ddclient?
[04:01] <Doitle2> I've encountered a bit of a problem with Ibex in VMware... I can get to the login screen, enter my username and password and then it accepts them and the screen goes a pinky salmon color and just hangs
[04:01] <rdw200169_> jimmy01: then, you forward the port the ssh server is running on to the server, i.e. in this situation it would be port 80 to get around a restrictive firewall
[04:01] <Baatti> I need some help making my Atheros AR5007EG wireless LAN card work on Ubuntu 8.10
[04:01] <genii-around> narothepharoh: Fileroller should now have this format as an option
[04:01] <jpablanche> please tell me what java channel is the most reliable?
[04:01] <fryguy> I'm trying to run gnome on a remote x server.  Someone told me I need to install an x client for gnome to run in.  What client is this and how do I install it?
[04:01] <n8tuser> jimmy01-> and if you get caught, be ready to get kicked out of school?
[04:01] <matthias> anyone have an idea on how to get version of packages installed, tried dpkg but i am not sure if it is correct ...
[04:01] <rdw200169_> jimmy01: you would test this from outside your home network by doing a $ ssh user@domain:80
[04:02] <Doitle2> ##java here on freenode is pretty good jpablanche
[04:02] <Baatti> matthias I've still not got it working
[04:02] <rdw200169_> jimmy01: it's unlikely unless their running some amazing proxy software, b/c ssh runs encrypted, incl. the tunnel
[04:02] <n8tuser> jpablanche-> you have not visited what i suggested earlier?
[04:02] <jpablanche> ##java is required registration
[04:02] <Doitle2> you just need to be identified with nickserv
[04:02] <jpablanche> yes its good
[04:02] <n8tuser> !who | jpablanche
[04:02] <Doitle2> I've found it to be a heck of a lot more helpful than #java on efnet
[04:02] <rdw200169_> jimmy01: so, for example, their layer 7 proxy, i.e. squid proxy or something like that, would have to catch a ssh tunnel
[04:02] <jpablanche> yes how to veriry and to be a member of nicksrv
[04:03] <jpablanche> verify
[04:03] <rdw200169_> jimmy01: but they wouldn't see the traffic
[04:03] <Baatti> I need some help making my Atheros AR5007EG wireless LAN card work on Ubuntu 8.10
[04:03] <matthias> Baatti:  no, still fighting, but i am going to reinstall the video card by using amd:s ovn driver instead of envy and go on from there and see what happens ...
[04:03] <jimmy01> sounds really great.. quite above my head
[04:03] <narothepharoh> genii-around: Fileroller? I dont have this.
[04:03] <jimmy01> so my main problem is getting around the dynamic ip addressing
[04:03] <jpablanche> cannot join registration is required how to register?
[04:03] <jimmy01> will the server help me with that problem?
[04:04] <Doitle2> jpablanche type /msg nickserv register
[04:04] <rdw200169_> jimmy01: in your situation, you don't really need a server
[04:04] <subdolus> how do I find out which hsync and vertfresh values I should use in xorg.conf ?
[04:04] <subdolus> short of finding my manual
[04:04] <n8tuser> jimmy01-> easy to find out, have a client connected to an irc channel, and just check the ip address :P
[04:04] <rdw200169_> jimmy01: an ubuntu desktop installation would easily do this task
[04:04] <jimmy01> well, i wanted to set up a permanent linux box at home
[04:04] <Doitle2> it should tell you you need some more parameters like an email and username or something. Just follow the directions it sends you and it should be fairly straight forward
[04:04] <rdw200169_> jimmy01: so you can do other stuff on it, than just tunneling internet access to a blocked network?
[04:04] <matthias> friends i found a way to verify package versions, the command from terminal is aptitud show <package name>
[04:04] <genii-around> narothepharoh: "Archive Manager"
[04:05] <jimmy01> what do you mean
[04:05] <jimmy01> run other programs or what
[04:05] <jimmy01> can the ssh control the entire computer
[04:05] <rdw200169_> jimmy01: other server stuff, like a webserver or fileserver or something
[04:05] <jimmy01> oh ok
[04:05] <uuuuuuuuu> what is a securty risk to have tcp packets in my network with source port 0?
[04:05] <n8tuser> matthias-> there is an option too in dpkg,  dpkg which is behind the apt* commands
[04:05] <rdw200169_> jimmy01: honestly, if you don't intend to push a lot of traffic, i.e. hundreds of hits on a webserver, a full server isn't technically necessary
[04:06] <jimmy01> ok
[04:06] <rdw200169_> jimmy01: then again, i run my normal desktop constantly, so i'm perhaps an exception
[04:06] <matthias> n8tuser:  ok
[04:06] <Anacranom> rdw200169_, take a look at this , would this work for jimmy01 ?  http://www.wood-bee-co.com/woodbeeco/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=40&Itemid=66
[04:06] <rdw200169_> jimmy01: the point i'm making is that, if you're comfortable running your normal desktop while at school, or whatever, a server is kinda overkill
[04:06] <Dominik> how do I do swapon automatically on boot?
[04:06] <yaptop> hello all.  I'm having an issue where I have no sound at all and it's not just something simple like i have mute on.  does anyone have suggestions
[04:07] <hollanbm> hey all, is there anyway i can force a certain app to open on a certain workspace
[04:07] <jimmy01> ok, i think i might forget about the server and just set up an extra desktop computer to tunnel through then
[04:07] <blinkn1> hello
[04:07] <jimmy01> is that the idea
[04:07] <matthias> well boys let me get started and uninstall the existing video card driver and install amd:s own ..., see you in a while ...
[04:07] <rdw200169_> Anacranom: jimmy01: why would you set up an extra desktop?
[04:07] <rdw200169_> Anacranom: not really, ssh, on it'
[04:08] <lianimator> I have a very strange problem with a subtitles file srt. I cannot open it in gedit but the sub plays in VLC. when I open it in nano, it shows some weird symbols.. '^@' in between letters
[04:08] <rdw200169_> Anacranom: s own already does tunneling, it's one of the 'hidden' features, think of PuTTY tunneling which is more documented
[04:08] <rdw200169_> Anacranom: then we get into socks protocol, etc...
[04:08] <jimmy01> perhaps i am new and missing the idea, but I thought I need two computers, one at home and one at school
[04:08] <rdw200169_> jimmy01: ah, yes, of course, i see
[04:09] <rdw200169_> jimmy01: this of course requires 2 computers
[04:09] <jimmy01> use the school computer and tunnel through the home computer using ssh
[04:09] <jimmy01> both running desktop ubuntu
[04:09] <jimmy01> right?
[04:09] <Doitle2> Trying to tunnel around the packet shapers eh jimmy? :P
[04:09] <rdw200169_> jimmy01: yeah, kinda multipurpose, you're not going to do a lot of 'server' work, so you can dual-purpose your home desktop for
[04:10] <myk_robinson> hey. How do I reset desktop effects? It wont enable now, however I can run compiz-fuzion just fine.. Now when I boot, the desktop is running plain, and I have to manually enter "compiz --replace" twice
[04:10] <rdw200169_> jimmy01: a regular ubuntu usage
[04:10] <schnoowork> anyone know why the php5.load apache module doesnt have any of the AddType functions anymore. Its impossible to view php files without it :\
[04:10] <rdw200169_> myk_robinson: yeah, compiz, when it crashes, defaults back to metacity
[04:10] <jimmy01> sounds good to me.. although i do want to get the server experience
[04:11] <jimmy01> Thanks so much for the help!
[04:11] <jimmy01> You guys are really knowledgable.
[04:11] <myk_robinson> rdw200169_: compiz works fine.. I messed around with the desktop effects thing in appearance, and now that is trying to take over apparently.
[04:11] <n8tuser> schnoowork-> ask the nice folks in #php perhaps? those are not ubuntu support questions
[04:11] <rdw200169_> myk_robinson: you should check out the script in the /usr/bin/compiz, and perhaps edit accordingly
[04:11] <rdw200169_> jimmy01: you can still operate a normal installation of ubuntu as a server
[04:11] <rdw200169_> jimmy01: i'm running a webserver on my desktop as we speak, i.e. greamin.com
[04:12] <jimmy01> really?
[04:12] <jimmy01> how does that work
[04:12] <jimmy01> or any webpages that detail the process
[04:12] <rdw200169_> jimmy01: easy, apt-get install apache2
[04:12] <jimmy01> ok
[04:12] <rdw200169_> jimmy01: of what, setting up a webserver?
[04:12] <jimmy01> i will look into it
[04:12] <jimmy01> yea
[04:12] <Maud> hey wassup?
[04:12] <jimmy01> apache2 does that then?
[04:13] <rdw200169_> jimmy01: you should check out the ubuntu server guide, it details a lot of the simple stuff of running a server
[04:13] <jimmy01> ok
[04:13] <rdw200169_> jimmy01: which is more than posible using ubuntu destkop
[04:13] <jimmy01> thanks
[04:13] <jimmy01> ok
[04:13] <jimmy01> great
[04:13] <FloodBot3> jimmy01: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:13] <freddy_engels> I'm trying to connect to an openWRT device via ssh, but after I login it immediately kicks me out. Is this likely a problem with the openWRT device or is there something clever I can do with ssh?
[04:14] <n8tuser> freddy_engels-> its in the remote end, the sshd settings there
[04:14] <freddy_engels> The command I am using is just "sudo ssh root@openWRT"
[04:14] <Cmclean> Just an open question..... How hard is it to run a webserver off a non-server Ubuntu computer? And will it be like renting space from a host?
[04:14] <IMfang> question: why does my internet connect at 512kbps, but I only get 62kbps download????
[04:14] <rdw200169_> myk_robinson: compiz runs from that script, and sometimes it causes problems during the boot-up of grub
[04:14] <rdw200169_> myk_robinson: i mean gnome
[04:14] <freddy_engels> n8user: Any idea how I could change those settings, since I can't connect to it?
[04:14] <stickboy> if i upgrade to 8.10 through update manager, my files and settings are protected, correct?
[04:14] <schnoowork> n8tuser, im talking about the PHP which is in synaptic though :\. it should be whoever builds the php version for ubuntu
[04:14]  * Len1nbarracuda Hola
[04:15] <freddy_engels> stickboy: Yeah, but you should backup anyway.
[04:15] <rdw200169_> freddy_engels: you don't need to sudo that
[04:15] <myk_robinson> this didnt occur until i messed with "desktop effects" under appearance. Before, i had eveyrthing set fine using CCSM. not sure why it wont initialize properly now
[04:15] <n8tuser> freddy_engels-> you cant from the client side, you have to get in to the server side
[04:15] <Len1nbarracuda> alguna chica que use ubuntu
[04:15] <Len1nbarracuda> ?
[04:15] <IMfang> thanx for the help.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[04:15] <genii-around> !es | Len1nbarracuda
[04:15] <oldmuttonhead> Hi everyone!
[04:15] <Cmclean> Just an open question..... How hard is it to run a webserver off a non-server Ubuntu computer? And will it be like renting space from a host?
[04:15] <n8tuser> schnoowork-> you may get a clearer answer though if you are in the correct channel
[04:16] <seronis> cmclean:  10 minute easy
[04:16] <blinkn1> Imfang:its 512 kilobits per second and 62 kilobytes per seconds. 8bits make 1 byte
[04:16] <badfish69> is 'gdb pidgin | /home/myname/Desktop/pidgin.txt' an acceptable execution of this line?:    'gdb <program> 2>&1 | tee gdb-<program>.txt'     ?
[04:16] <Cmclean> seronis: And like a prof. hosting service?
[04:16] <Uplink> =/
[04:16] <seronis> 10 minutes will get apache, mysql, php up and running
[04:16] <rdw200169_> Cmclean: yeah, i was talking about this with jimmy01, and yes, it's simply a matter of installing apache, and all that, via apt-get
[04:16] <carbon_monoxide> !3gp
[04:16] <rdw200169_> Cmclean: i don't understand what you mean by 'renting space from a host'?
[04:17] <Cmclean> 1 sec
[04:17] <seronis> Cmclean: depends,  its a web server.  it will run web pages and handle php properly
[04:17] <Cmclean> oh ok
[04:17] <n8tuser> Cmclean-> but please do a tutorial on LAMPP so you get familiarized with what it takes to run such services
[04:17] <Cmclean> I want a home server to run like a normal webpage    www.cmclean.com            for example
[04:17] <J-_> Anyone know of a nice tutorial to install flash 10 in Hardy?
[04:17] <J-_> for 64bit?
[04:17] <rdw200169_> Cmclean: well, i do the same thing with greamin.com
[04:18] <Uplink> how do i delete cookies in my browser using JS?
[04:18] <rdw200169_> Cmclean: and i do it on ubuntu desktop, so i don't have to run another computer
[04:18] <Cmclean> And how hard is it to work with it? Like I HATE terminal code etc.
[04:18] <oldmuttonhead> Question:  I'm running Ubuntu 8.04 on an old Asus Z71a notebook that I built awhile back.  It has an NVidia 6600 video card.  The resolution doesn't seem right.  It says it is 1280 x 800, but it is no where near that, I'm sure.
[04:18] <voox> is it possible to run ubuntu 64bit on an intel core duo? (laptop)
[04:18] <oldmuttonhead> I'm very new to Ubuntu.. not sure how to fix this
[04:19] <phoenix> test
[04:19] <mefistofeles> Hi, just wondering if there's a way to get fortran's g77 compiler in ubuntu intrepid 8.10, thanks
[04:19] <seronis> Cmclean:  work with what?   you edit your web pages the same way you would anywhere.   a text editor or WYSIWYG editor for the pages
[04:19] <rdw200169_> Cmclean: beyond setting up the correct permissions for where you store the webpages (i.e. web-data) and editting the apache files regarding where the sites are located and stuff, not a big deal
[04:19] <seronis> the isntructions are here    http://www.bluenoseddog.co.uk/2008/09/how-to-setup-a-test-ubuntu-webserver-lamp-in-10-minutes/
[04:19] <n8tuser> oldmuttonhead->  verify with   xdpyinfo
[04:19] <badfish69> how do i make gdb report on pidgin to /home/myname/Desktop/pidgin.txt in terminal?
[04:19] <Cmclean> thx
[04:19] <rdw200169_> Cmclean: if you really hate the terminal that much, you can run and manage an apache installation using webmin, but
[04:19] <giacomo> how can I "stop" ubuntu upgrading a certain package?
[04:19] <n8tuser> oldmuttonhead-> also  if you have   ddcprobe you can use that to verify
[04:19] <Cmclean> ah yes
[04:19] <rdw200169_> Cmclean: it's a bigger pain according to me
[04:20] <rdw200169_> Cmclean: i prefer doing it on the cmd line
[04:20] <phoenix> hi
[04:20] <Cmclean> also what's the diff between running on a server or a GUI? Speed?
[04:20] <rdw200169_> Cmclean: and, when you deal with things related to server stuff, it's often the case that the best way to get things done is on the terminal
[04:20] <n8tuser> badfish69-> gdb as in debugger?
[04:20] <badfish69> n8tuser: yes
[04:20] <zx> soft
[04:20] <oldmuttonhead> xdpyinfo says 1280 x 800
[04:20] <seronis> Cmclean: the webserver doesnt run with a gui.  its a  'service'
[04:20] <Cmclean> yes I know but like I=n00b
[04:20] <genii-around> Cmclean: The server kernel is also especially tweaked for serving
[04:20] <badfish69> n8tuser: having a constant crash problem with msn, would like to get it to the code monkeys
[04:20] <rdw200169_> Cmclean: this relates to the opinion held by most, if not all, server gurus that the command line is the most reliable and safe
[04:20] <Cmclean> i meant normal GUI version of 8.10
[04:21] <n8tuser> badfish69-> i dont know off hand, but i suggest man gdb
[04:21] <n8tuser> badfish69-> also you can use strace or ltrace to help you out too
[04:21] <fryguy> I'm trying to run gnome on a remote x server.  Someone told me I need to install an x client for gnome to run in.  What client is this and how do I install it?
[04:21] <seronis> Cmclean:  im using 8.10 desktop edition and have apache running.
[04:21] <mefistofeles> Hi, just wondering if there's a way to get fortran's g77 compiler in ubuntu intrepid 8.10, thanks
[04:21] <badfish69> 8.1 is out now?
[04:21] <Cmclean> yes
[04:21] <rdw200169_> Cmclean: yeah, that's what i'm talking about, the point i'm trying to make, is that there's no 'gtk' tool for administering an apache webserver
[04:21] <badfish69> cool
[04:21] <fryguy> badfish69: 8.10, yes
[04:21] <voox> can someone tell me if a laptop with core 2 duo can run the 64bit edition of Linux?
[04:22] <oldmuttonhead> The only reason why I think it's off is that websites don't really "fit" on my screen.
[04:22] <voox> *ubuntu
[04:22] <seronis> 8 = 2008,  10 = october
[04:22] <fryguy> voox: it can
[04:22] <n8tuser> mefistofeles-> apt-cache search  fortran    see if anything shows up
[04:22] <bucket529> ﻿mefistofeles: g77 is already in the repos.
[04:22] <seronis> this == november.  so yes 8.10 is avialable
[04:22] <mefistofeles> n8tuser, bucket529 its not
[04:22] <kristofer> I've got a broadcom bcm4309 - it worked in feisty/gutsy with the bcm43xx driver, but now in intrepid it doesn't work with the new b43 driver. any ideas about it?
[04:22] <try2free> hi, how to make custom paper size available in wine?
[04:22] <NeoGeo64> I'm running 8.10 and it keeps forgetting my static IP settings, and to get online I have to reconfigure it at every boot.  Why?
[04:22] <bucket529> ﻿mefistofeles: Where are you seeing that it's not?
[04:22] <n8tuser> mefistofeles-> then maybe in someone else's private repository, google for it?
[04:23] <J-_> How can I install flash 10 in Hardy 64bit?
[04:23] <rdw200169_> NeoGeo64: well, you can manually specify them in /etc/network/interfaces
[04:23] <mefistofeles> n8tuser, bucket529 http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=g77&searchon=names&suite=intrepid&section=all
[04:23] <rdw200169_> NeoGeo64: that would solve your problem!
[04:23] <NeoGeo64> heh the network mgr should work tho
[04:23] <komputes> J-_: www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhflmkV3bhQ and for 64-bit  http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/install-flash-10-ubuntu-linux-64bit.html http://www.howtoforge.com/installing-adobe-flash-10-on-a-64bit-ubuntu-8.04
[04:23] <NeoGeo64> im not one for hacking
[04:23] <NeoGeo64> i just wanna make it remember my settings
[04:23] <rdw200169_> NeoGeo64: *should* is the key work, i personally despise the NetworkManager
[04:23] <J-_> KoFish:  .....
[04:23] <bucket529> ﻿mefistofeles: Aha. It ended with Hardy. One sec...
[04:23] <J-_> whoops.
[04:24] <NeoGeo64> 8.04 had no problem
[04:24] <n8tuser> mefistofeles-> apt-cache search  fortran    see if anything shows up, you were using g77.. try this
[04:24] <J-_> komputes:  ...thanks.
[04:24] <aaron_> Is this the right place to ask about gnome screenlets?
[04:24] <mefistofeles> n8tuser, bucket529 they say "use gfortran", but fotran 95 is not the same as 77. And some apps need 77 only. So Im kind of stuck
[04:24] <komputes> np
[04:24] <rdw200169_> NeoGeo64: NetworkManager is still in heavy development
[04:24] <Cmclean> Umm TOTALLY random but where is a good guide to IRC???
[04:24] <NeoGeo64> so why implement it then
[04:24] <NeoGeo64> seriously
[04:24] <NeoGeo64> it *doesnt* work
[04:24] <mefistofeles> n8tuser, I've tried, there is no g77 in intrepid
[04:24] <mefistofeles> at least on offical repos
[04:24] <rdw200169_> NeoGeo64: it's the best way to get wireless working right, wireless has always been notorious for being difficult, i.e. iwconfig
[04:24] <n8tuser> mefistofeles-> then maybe you have to go back to using hardy or gutsy
[04:24] <NeoGeo64> im using wired
[04:24] <bucket529> ﻿mefistofeles: You can always download the g77 deb from Debian.
[04:25] <unique> cannot connect to ad hoc mod
[04:25] <unique> mode
[04:25] <rdw200169_> NeoGeo64: yeah, most of the work related to NetworkManager is related to wireless, it stinks for wired
[04:25] <mefistofeles> bucket529, debian doesnt have it as well, thats probably why ubuntu also doesnt
[04:25] <Cmclean> Um random complete guide to IRC?
[04:25] <n8tuser> unique-> if your driver does not support it, then it wont connect
[04:25] <rdw200169_> NeoGeo64: get some practice! do a 'man interfaces'
[04:25] <genii-around> fryguy: The client machine architecture basically dictates what X clients you can install on them. If *nix then the usal one. If Windows then something like Xming
[04:25] <L> d
[04:25] <mefistofeles> n8tuser, downgrade is not an option this time :S
[04:25] <rdw200169_> NeoGeo64: to learn how to edit the file
[04:26] <unique> dose the madwifi drivers support it?
[04:26] <L> #linux-quebec
[04:26] <Cmclean> like all commands and stuff
[04:26] <bucket529> ﻿mefistofeles: Hmm. It's showing in Debian stable. There's nothing in unstable, which may be why Intrepid didn't pick it up. Looking on Debian now...
[04:26] <rdw200169_> NeoGeo64: you can test the configuration using the cmd line tools, ifup, ifdown
[04:26] <n8tuser> mefistofeles-> there is always SuSE and RedHat enterprise level
[04:26] <komputes> Cmclean: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[04:26] <rdw200169_> Cmclean: just do a /help
[04:26] <fryguy> genii-around: the clients are running on *nix.  What is this X client I need to install so that gnome can run on a remote x server?
[04:26] <mefistofeles> n8tuser, oh no hehehe, actually I just cant reinstall anything... I'd try to compile g77 from source (if possible)
[04:27] <tsedreyt> hi, can some help me with a problem with "dpkg: --set-selections does not take any argument"
[04:27] <drone_> does anyone know how I can print a page of labels that aren't all the same with Glabels?
[04:27] <drone_> I looked for an option but couldn't find it
[04:27] <matthias> hi what does POSIX mean and how do i install it ...
[04:27] <genii-around> fryguy: The X client is just X itself. So you already have it if they have have some kind of desktop already
[04:27] <rdw200169_> matthias: posix isn't an application, it's a standard
[04:27] <NeoGeo64> well i wont be using 8.10 since it cant even remember my settings
[04:27] <Gubernur_> net 7000
[04:27] <n8tuser> mefistofeles-> just curious, what project are you using fortran for?
[04:27] <JaHSon> wazzaaaa
[04:28] <fryguy> so I have to run X on the client?  How do I run that? startx or something?
[04:28] <thomasite> Hello. How do I know if OpenOffice 3.0 is already 'supported' by Ubuntu?
[04:28] <Cmclean> Should be
[04:28] <JaHSon> MR IRIZARRY
[04:28] <mefistofeles> n8tuser, Center of Wave Phenomena... http://timna.mines.edu/cwpcodes/index.html
[04:29] <tsedreyt> So I am trying to load my programs, I run "sudo dpkg --set-selections /home/package.selections && apt-get dselect-upgrade
[04:29] <tsedreyt> " and get that --set-selections does not take any argument, what am I going wrong? Thanks for the help.
[04:29] <jpruss> Hey, I enabled 3d mode in KDE, and now I can't turn it off, can anyone give me any tip how to reset KDE to defaults via terminal? (as KDE is currently unusable in its state)
[04:29] <matthias> rdw200169_:  than what does  it stand for, when i am installing the amd video driver for my video car it fails and have some of version problem and POSIX gets into my head, what does POSIX stands for ...
[04:29] <JaHSon> mr irirzarrrrrrry
[04:29] <n8tuser> mefistofeles-> i asked because i have not used that since 86..hehe
[04:29] <bucket529> ﻿mefistofeles: Will http://packages.debian.org/etch/i386/g77/download work?
[04:29] <Cmclean> Can someone go through wifi setup??? sorry Uplink :(
[04:29] <eirizarry1974> yo JahSON whats good
[04:30] <Uplink> Cmclean: yea i was gonna help you yesterday =/
[04:30] <JaHSon> waz goooody
[04:30] <usser> jpruss, just remove ~/.kde and ~/.kde4
[04:30] <jpruss> usser: thanks
[04:30] <kristofer> why don't I get any scan results from sudo iwlist wlan0 scan
[04:30] <mefistofeles> bucket529, I'll try, but tomorrow, since it's a machine from the campus
[04:30] <matthias> rdw200169_:  it says the follwong software needs to be installed POSIX shared memory ...
[04:30] <mefistofeles> n8tuser, still widely used
[04:30] <mefistofeles> n8tuser, though bit underground
[04:31] <n8tuser> mefistofeles-> i know, just like cobol perhaps? hehe
[04:31] <[T]ank> getting a make error says: make: mkbootmsg: Command not found
[04:31] <[T]ank> cant figure out what package i need. please help
[04:31] <Cmclean> Umm wifi run through? My thing doesn't work normally or I'm just "special"
[04:31] <mefistofeles> n8tuser, not sure, but no one beats fortran in numerical methods yet :P
[04:31] <unique> dose anyone know of any speech Recognition for ubuntu?
[04:32] <tsedreyt> So I am trying to load my programs, I run "sudo dpkg --set-selections /home/package.selections && apt-get dselect-upgrade" and get that --set-selections does not take any argument, what am I going wrong? Thanks for the help.
[04:32] <fryguy> genii-around: sorry I didn't prepend your name to my previous statement, did you see it?
[04:32] <n8tuser> mefistofeles-> yeah the good ole days.. hehe
[04:32] <mefistofeles> n8tuser, hehe yeah
[04:32] <komputes> Cmclean: thats the ubuntu channels sorry - for the commands, http://www.greenday.net/chat/commands.html
[04:32] <gaara> any1 know how to add iso of interpid into the repository?
[04:32] <J-_> gah, firefox seriously is at a standstill now. won't let me click anything after install flash 10 in hardy. :(
[04:32] <Dominik> my system is freezing up with IOWaits again, I still have 60 megs of ram free, and swap is not in use, what do I do I can hardly type?
[04:32] <Nubbie> unique: there is one program, it's a panel applet, i'm not sure how effective it is though.
[04:32] <mefistofeles> gaara, I thoink you could mount it and do apt-cdrom
[04:33] <komputes> gaara: what do you mean?
[04:33] <subdolus> how can I check what my vertical refresh and sync and stuff in console?
[04:33] <subdolus> for my monitor
[04:33] <gaara> i tried mounting it
[04:33] <gaara> and adding as cd rom in the sources
[04:33] <jimmy01> hey guys, is there a way to close or even kill x-windows in ubuntu desktop version and just use linux from the terminal?
[04:34] <gaara> but that basically unmounts and mounts back again...but since there is not actual dvd it gives anb error
[04:34] <jimmy01> and then how to restart x windows from the terminal
[04:34] <genii-around> fryguy: For remote, you might want to look into xdmcp
[04:34] <fryguy> jimmy01: /etc/init.d/gdm stop will accomplish what you want
[04:34] <thomasite> Hello. How do I know if OpenOffice3.0 is already supported by Ubuntu? Thanks!
[04:34] <sri> howdy
[04:34] <fryguy> genii-around: I do not want to forward a display manager, just gnome
[04:34] <jimmy01> thanks a lot fryguy
[04:34] <sri> how do I get packages for ffmpeg that supports aac and xvid?
[04:34] <jimmy01> how about hot to restart the xwindow
[04:34] <sri> it looks  like the default intrepid doesn't have it.
[04:34] <fryguy> genii-around: how do I start X client to do this?  Do i run startx ?
[04:34] <sri> I looked at this page:http://www.digitalself.org/2008/10/31/ffmpeg-with-xvid-h264-and-libfaac-on-ubuntu-intrepid/
[04:34] <komputes> gaara: when you mounted the CDROM it did not prompt you to install packages
[04:35] <komputes> gaara: where did you mount it?
[04:35] <sri> but it failed on apt-get source ffmpeg
[04:35] <tsedreyt> Hi, I am trying to load my programs, I run "sudo dpkg --set-selections /home/package.selections && apt-get dselect-upgrade" and get that --set-selections does not take any argument, what am I going wrong? Thanks.
[04:35] <Doitle2> Any thoughts on my hang after login problem with Ibex in vmware?
[04:35] <gaara> komputes: mounted it in /media/cdrom
[04:35] <les> sri:  you'll need the source repos enabled to get the soruce
[04:35] <genii-around> fryguy: Just running X will not allow it to use apps from another box.
[04:35] <fryguy> genii-around: what steps must I take to make this possible
[04:35] <sri> les: ok, I have it for mediabuntu, but I guess not for the others. let me check
[04:36] <kanhiya78>  please anyone one of you solve my screen resolution  problem ; my laptop is able to produce resolution up to 1280x? but using ubuntu ; maximum resolution available is 800x600 ; please anybody help me  and i am new to linux and using it from last two weeks
[04:36] <komputes> gaara: are you using desktop or server edition?
[04:36] <unique> i wonder if there is somthing where you can set voice commands to run preset commands...
[04:36] <gaara> desktop
[04:36] <Dominik> what causes IOWaits and what are they?
[04:36] <komputes> gaara: so you see it on your desktop
[04:36] <sri> les: what line are we looking for I have a deb-src for archive.us intrepid main restricted
[04:36] <jpruss> usser: how do I delete dirs ?
[04:36] <needhelpnoob> Hi everyone
[04:37] <Cmclean> Uplink: sry Pidgin crashed
[04:37] <needhelpnoob> I have a problem resizing my partition using gparted
[04:37] <Uplink> Cmclean: dont use pidgin for IRC... use xchat :)
[04:37] <residentskitz> hey everybody.  i cant connect to my router or internet in ubuntu, but it works fine in xp.  i have my network connections set to DHCP (Auto) and nothing else set, and it is a wired connection.
[04:37] <bucket529> ﻿mefistofeles: You're right - g77 support in Debian was dropped in favor of gfortran. That's another reason it's not in Intrepid. Source: http://wiki.debian.org/GfortranTransition
[04:37] <les> sri: add universe and multiverse to that list
[04:37] <Cmclean> Uplink: Why?
[04:37] <fryguy> genii-around: someone else mentioned tunneling through ssh.  I see the -X option in the manpage for ssh.  Can I start X on the client and connect to the X server this way?  If so, how do I start X on the client?
[04:37] <kanhiya78>  please anyone one of you solve my screen resolution  problem ; my laptop is able to produce resolution up to 1280x? but using ubuntu ; maximum resolution available is 800x600 ; please anybody help me  and i am new to linux and using it from last two weeks
[04:37] <Uplink> Cmclean: just do it :p dont ask
[04:37] <les> sri:  just after the main/restricted is fine
[04:37] <Cmclean> Uplink: Ok dling now
[04:37] <mefistofeles> bucket529, yeah, :( too bad
[04:37] <Uplink> Cmclean: kk good boy
[04:37] <komputes> gaara:  when you mounted it, did it not prompt you to install packages from the cd (perhaps it said add-on cd)?
[04:37] <WelshDragon> lol Uplink
[04:38] <cmdrsmith> HELP:: I LOST MY NETWORK MANAGER ICON IN THE TOP RIGHT
[04:38] <Cmclean> me too
[04:38] <cmdrsmith> CAN ANYONE HELP ME
[04:38] <sri> les: thanks I will check that.
[04:38] <Cmclean> me too
[04:38] <needhelpnoob> anyone able to tell me if it's possible to burn a DVD while using ubuntu livecd?
[04:38] <Uplink> WelshDragon: lol ;D
[04:38] <sri> cmdrsmith: first, turn off your caps lock.
[04:38] <komputes> Cmclean: the interface in pidgin is not very good for IRC, but if you only like joining one channel it may be ok, but X-Chat has many more options.
[04:38] <gaara> komputes: no it did not ask me to install packages from cd...the dvd is basically the ubuntu8.10 dvd...
[04:38] <sri> cmdrsmith: it creates a bad  first impression, it's like someone coming into the room and shouting.
[04:39] <jpruss> usser: how do I delete a folder with files in it via console?
[04:39] <Cmclean> Umm Xchat IRC or Xchat-GNOME Irc?
[04:39] <needhelpnoob> ﻿anyone able to tell me if it's possible to burn a DVD while using ubuntu livecd?
[04:39] <cmdrsmith> sorry but i am freaking out
[04:39] <bucket529> ﻿mefistofeles: With the g77n deb, you should -in theory- be good until you need something that depends on gfortran...or until it get uninstalled by your next release update.
[04:39] <genii-around> fryguy: If you have X forwarding enabled in your ssh on the server you can just do the startx inside an ssh session
[04:39] <tsedreyt> So I am trying to load my programs, I run "sudo dpkg --set-selections /home/package.selections && apt-get dselect-upgrade" and get that --set-selections does not take any argument, what am I going wrong? Thanks for the help.
[04:39] <WelshDragon> Cmclean, xchat
[04:39] <gaara> i've installed ubuntu from the cd...and now i want to add the dvd as the repository....thru an iso image....mounting it does not do anything
[04:39] <Cmclean> kk thx
[04:39] <sri> cmdrsmith: see if you have nm-applet running.
[04:39] <cmdrsmith> how i am brand new
[04:40] <sri> cmdrsmith: that's the gui part
[04:40] <usser> jpruss, rm -r /foldername
[04:40] <needhelpnoob> ﻿anyone able to tell me if it's possible to burn a DVD while using ubuntu livecd?
[04:40] <fryguy> genii-around: don't I need to start X on the client before I can run x clients on the x server??
[04:40] <needhelpnoob> and if so how?
[04:40] <kanhiya78> can anyone of you solve my display problem
[04:40] <Cmclean> needhelpnoob: Why?
[04:40] <kanhiya78> means screen resolution
[04:40] <needhelpnoob> cause i grub is screwed up
[04:40] <needhelpnoob> and i cant boot into ubuntu
[04:40] <caiphn> Does anyone know how I restart my wireless? Like reconnect to it? It's disappeared from the top right, not sure how I restart it.
[04:40] <Cmclean> needhelpnoob: bad burn?
[04:40] <needhelpnoob> plus i installed ubuntu within windows
[04:40] <needhelpnoob> so i can reinstall grub
[04:41] <[T]ank> looks to me like i have mkboot on my computer... do i need to edit a path or something to make this work?
[04:41] <[T]ank> /usr/sbin/mkboot
[04:41] <Cmclean> needhelpnoob: like Virtualization?
[04:41] <fryguy> genii-around: startx (according to the manpage) is just a wrapper for xinit which "is used to start the X Window  System server"  I don't want to run a server on the client, i'm already running the server on the server
[04:41] <Guido> hello
[04:41] <genii-around> fryguy: The basic Q is if you want the server to be running the X and then sending the result to your remote box, or if you want X to be running on the client and just forwarding the X app from the server to it
[04:41] <cmdrsmith> ok so any suggestions?
[04:41] <Guido> <---noob and I need help
[04:41] <kanhiya78> how to get highr resolution
[04:41] <Cmclean> needhelpnoob: Tryusing Wubi it like installs Ubuntu through Windows
[04:41] <needhelpnoob> Cmclean: no i installed ubuntu for dual boot within windows
[04:41] <Cmclean> needhelpnoob: oh ok
[04:41] <tsedreyt> Hey can anyone help me out with a terminal command? I am kind of stuck....
[04:41] <needhelpnoob> Cmclean:  i dont have windows atm
[04:41] <Dominik> lol im hitting the x on the ff3 window but it just doesn't do anything
[04:42] <WelshDragon> tsedreyt, what's the problem?
[04:42] <kanhiya78> my graphics card is sis mirage 3 graphics
[04:42] <fryguy> genii-around: I want to be running the X server on the machine that it belongs on, namely the one with the display and input devices
[04:42] <needhelpnoob> Cmclean:  im trying to repartition my drive and format the partition with a virus on it
[04:42] <usser> tsedreyt, shoot
[04:42] <Guest87642> ok first how do I identify so I can keep my name
[04:42] <ezzieyguywuf> i'm getting the following error when trying to play a cd in rhytmbox, any suggestoins? : "gstream error. state change failed"
[04:42] <tsedreyt> Thanks, I just did a clean install
[04:42] <caiphn> Is it a service I need to restart or how does it work?
[04:42] <Dominik> update: a gmail script was causeing trouble
[04:42] <Cmclean> needhelpnoob: I don't know about partitioning sry
[04:42] <caiphn> Anyone?
[04:42] <komputes> gaara: To add CD-ROM to sources.list, issue the following command: $ sudo apt-cdrom add
[04:42] <tsedreyt> and I saved my programs in a dpkg package
[04:42] <cmdrsmith> so any ideas on how to get that back
[04:42] <tsedreyt> So I am trying to load my programs, I run "sudo dpkg --set-selections /home/package.selections && apt-get dselect-upgrade" and get that --set-selections does not take any argument, what am I going wrong? Thanks for the help.
[04:42] <cmdrsmith> i tried the nm-applet
[04:42] <komputes> gaara: the run sudo apt-get update
[04:43] <ezzieyguywuf> needhelpnoob: use gparted to format your drive
[04:43] <jimclassic> hello
[04:43] <fryguy> genii-around: and I want X clients to connect to this server.  How do I start X on the clients to make this happen?
[04:43] <kanhiya78> i think nobody is listening to me
[04:43] <needhelpnoob> anyone know how to burn a DVD while booted into a livecd?
[04:43] <ezzieyguywuf> lol needhelpnoob you can't do that
[04:43] <Guest87642> Can anyone tell me how to "identify" when I get here so I can keep my name?
[04:43] <needhelpnoob> ezzieyguywuf:  why?
[04:43] <freddy_engels> needhelpnoob: do you have two DVD drives? :P
[04:43] <needhelpnoob> yes i do
[04:43] <needhelpnoob> but it wouldnt let me do it
[04:43] <Flannel> !register > Guest87642
[04:43] <fryguy> Guest87642: /msg nickserv help and that should walk you through the basics of getting your nickname set up on this server
[04:44] <needhelpnoob> im guessing since the livecd uses ram
[04:44] <tsedreyt> Usser or WelshDragon : any ideas?
[04:44] <ezzieyguywuf> needhelpnoob: because the livecd is already in your cd-drive and needs to remain there for the os to remain running, so you can't insert a blank disc
[04:44] <les> Guest87642: /msg nickserv help register
[04:44] <WelshDragon> tsedreyt, try "sudo dpkg --set-selections < /home/package.selections
[04:44] <needhelpnoob> ezzieyguywuf:  i have a 2nd dvd writer though
[04:44] <needhelpnoob> ezzieyguywuf:  but when i try to write it comes up with an error
[04:44] <ezzieyguywuf> needhelpnoob: oh, in that case just connect it and you should be good. it might take a while though
[04:44] <freddy_engels> needhelpnoob; what error?
[04:44] <ezzieyguywuf> needhelpnoob: whats the error
[04:44] <needhelpnoob> let me check
[04:44] <genii-around> fryguy: You can run X on a headless box and forward the results to a machine which is not headless. The work is done on the headless server. You can also run an X server on the client which then remotely stored X apps from the server can be shunted to and ran. etc etc
[04:45] <usser> tsedreyt, never done that hang on i'll check how it works
[04:45] <ezzieyguywuf> can anyone help my with my rhytmbox problem? i try to play a CD and get the following error : gstreamer error, state change failed
[04:45] <cmdrsmith> I cant get back my Network icon for the networks
[04:45] <cmdrsmith> can anyone help
[04:45] <tsedreyt> thanks guys
[04:45] <WelshDragon> tsedreyt, Did that work?
[04:45] <fryguy> genii-around: the X client runs on the headless box, and forwards the result to an X server that has a display and input devices.  How do I start X client on the headless box so that gnome can run inside of it
[04:45] <needhelpnoob> ezzieyguywuf:  it just says there was an error writing to disk
[04:45] <freddy_engels> cmdrsmith, what do you mean?
[04:45] <exmachina> ugh wtf it seems like all .exes on my mounted  dvd iso is a "BAD EXE" format
[04:46] <ezzieyguywuf> needhelpnoob:  probably its not a writable disk then?
[04:46] <joanki123> i'm using ubuntu and my printer suddenly stopped printing - any help? suggestions?
[04:46] <needhelpnoob> ezzieyguywuf:  nope, ubuntu is detecting it as a writable disk
[04:46] <ezzieyguywuf> joanki123: is there a paper jam?
[04:46] <tsedreyt> yeah that + the othre half of my command worked, thanks a lot welshdragon
[04:46] <tsedreyt> and thanks usser for the thought
[04:46] <tsedreyt> I really appreciate it guys
[04:46] <needhelpnoob> ezzieyguywuf:  and i set it to write on my 2nd dvd writer
[04:46] <joanki123> no, my printer icon doesnn't even come up ezzieyguywuf
[04:46] <WelshDragon> tsedreyt, Cool, you're welcome =)
[04:46] <ezzieyguywuf> needhelpnoob: i'm sorry then, i don't know what the problem might be
[04:46] <freddy_engels> cmdrsmith, if you mean there is no NetworkManager icon, you can easily add it back by right-clicking the panel and finding it
[04:46] <joanki123> the one that normally does when i print something
[04:46] <needhelpnoob> ezzieyguywuf:  could it be something to do with the fact that livecd is loaded on ram and has no temp file to use?
[04:47] <cmdrsmith> freddy it aint there
[04:47] <ezzieyguywuf> eh, it could very well be
[04:47] <joanki123> ezzieyguywuf, any suggestions?
[04:47] <usser> tsedreyt, try that cat  /home/package.selections | sudo dpkg --set-selections && apt-get dselect-upgrade
[04:47] <cmdrsmith> it gives me some othere stuff
[04:47] <caiphn> Does anyone know how I restart my wireless? Like reconnect to it? It's disappeared from the top right, not sure how I restart it.
[04:47] <freddy_engels> needhelpnoob: That seems possible.
[04:47] <ezzieyguywuf> joanki123: hm... system>>administration>>printing then select new and try to add it manually?
[04:47] <mindrape> caiphn - sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid yourssid                sudo dhclient wlan0
[04:47] <needhelpnoob> freddy_engels:  you know how i could get around that?
[04:47] <jimclassic> how can i get xipmsg in ubuntu
[04:47] <Dominik> hi I just changed to an xfce session, how come my taskbars are different, and can I no longer use the same gnome applets?
[04:48] <joanki123> ezzieyguywuf, but it was working just earlier today?
[04:48] <cmdrsmith> i cant see what network i am on
[04:48] <cmdrsmith> this is bad
[04:48] <ezzieyguywuf> Dominik: its because your in xfce, which is not gnome. does that make sense?
[04:48] <mindrape> Dominik - well... the obvious answer would be gnome is not xfce
[04:48] <akahig1> got a partitioning issue that I need to fix and I need some advice... my boot partition is too small to upgrade to Ibex.  I have the space to delete the fs then recreate it larger (from the live CD), but I don't know how to reinstall grub and get everything back working again...
[04:48] <joanki123> WEIRD i printed a testpage, ezzieyguywuf and that works, but ooffice won't print
[04:48] <ezzieyguywuf> joanki123: oh...weird. maybe your usb cable is bunk?
[04:48] <mindrape> cmdrsmith - sudo iwlist wlan0 scan
[04:48] <freddy_engels> needhelpnoob, Maybe try a different liveCD distro? knoppix or puppylinux would maybe be good
[04:48] <fryguy> genii-around: or is gnome itself (specifically gnome-session), an X client that implements the X protocol, and there is no need to run an X client around gnome, and whoever told me so was wrong?
[04:48] <Dominik> ezzieguywuf: so my desktop settings are completly different too?
[04:48] <joanki123> it works , ezzieyguywuf for the test page
[04:48] <ezzieyguywuf> joanki123: wow, that is weird.
[04:48] <needhelpnoob> freddy_engels:  i would but atm i dont have any other OS to write a dvd with
[04:49] <mindrape> Dominik: basically, yes... it's a different desktop environment.
[04:49] <fryguy> genii-around: is gnome an X client, or does it run inside of one?
[04:49] <needhelpnoob> freddy_engels: do you know how i can delete windows folders? i tried using rm -rf and it woudlnt let me
[04:49] <GuidoGTP> Thank you for the help on registering my nick
[04:49] <Dominik> mindrape: don't quite understand that concept, but xfce is amazing fast :)
[04:49] <thiebaude> !x
[04:49] <ezzieyguywuf> Dominik: what do you mean? i'm trying to say that its a different desktop environment which uses different settings, so your gnome settings won't work. it has its own way of displaying bars etccc and the gnome-applets won't work (i don't think)
[04:49] <freddy_engels> needhelpnoob, you could try writing damn smalll linux to a USB drive and try burning the CD from there?
[04:49] <mindrape> Dominik - XFCE is like a stripped down Gnome or KDE.  If you want even faster than that you can go for fluxbox.
[04:50] <fryguy> thiebaude: we are talking about remote X servers, that factoid isn't applicable here.
[04:50] <needhelpnoob> freddy_engels:  thanks for the suggestion.. i may try it out
[04:50] <freddy_engels> needhelpnoob, did it give an error message?
[04:50] <usser> Dominik, or openbox
[04:50] <Dominik> mindrape: fluxbox, is that for ubuntu?
[04:50] <needhelpnoob> freddy_engels:  i'll paste in a second. one moment
[04:50] <Dominik> mindrape: sorry I have been linux user for 3 days
[04:50] <ezzieyguywuf> i cannot for the life of me get rhytmbox to play a cd can someone PLEASE help me! i desperately want to listen to this clapton album :-d
[04:50] <thiebaude> yup,i use it, dominik
[04:50] <Dominik> thlebaude: whats the install command?
[04:50] <GuidoGTP> Anyone know if I can use my DYNEX wireless network adapter with ubuntu.... I just installed it and would like to get onto the internet...
[04:51] <thiebaude> sudo apt-get install fluxbox
[04:51] <mindrape> Dominik - fluxbox, openbox, icewm... there are differences between Desktop Environments (XFCE, Gnome, KDE and now enlightenment) and Window Managers (icewm, fluxbox, openbox, etc)
[04:51] <needhelpnoob> freddy_engels: this is what i get: rm: cannot remove directory `/media/disk/WINDOWS1/assembly/GAC_32/System.EnterpriseServices/2.0.0.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a': Operation not supported
[04:51] <caiphn> mindrape: It stated back "unknown hardware address type 801, and the wireless icon in the top right did not re-appear. The essid, is that a value I'm supposed to put in or is it just essid?
[04:51] <needhelpnoob> freddy_engels: basically "operation not supported"
[04:51] <mindrape> caiphn - man iwconfig       it will tell you the paramters you can pass.
[04:51] <freddy_engels> what kind of filesystem is the windows partition? FAT32 or NTFS?
[04:51] <Dominik> mindrape: thanks, makes sense
[04:51] <FloridaGuy> i figured out my problem....metacity was segfaulting....reinstalled it....restarted it....now my themes only work halfway....panel..menu dont them..windows do
[04:51] <needhelpnoob> NTFS
[04:52] <mindrape> caiphn - sudo ifconfig            do you have a wlan0 or is your wmaster0?
[04:52] <caiphn> Sorry, I'm new to this, I don't know.
[04:52] <caiphn> I'll check with that.\
[04:52] <needhelpnoob> any ideas?
[04:52] <mindrape> caiphn - pull up an xterm and type that command in.
[04:52] <cmdrsmith> if i put in the command nm-applet -enable
[04:53] <caiphn> I have both a wlan0 and a wmaster0
[04:53] <freddy_engels> needhelpnoob, Do you have read and write permissions?
[04:53] <Dominik> ok guys, when I was in gnome I could switch work spaces with my mousewheel, can I enable such a feature in xubuntu, or am I out of luck?
[04:53] <caiphn> My problem is that after 10 minutes, my wireless drops, and I haver to reboot. I was just wondering if there was a manual way to turn it back on.
[04:53] <caiphn> Everytime I reboot, it works for 10'ish minutes.
[04:53] <gluonman> I'm trying to follow synergy configuration instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynergyHowto and I'm stuck where I'm supposed to start the server after creating .synergy.conf. The terminal output is at http://paste.ubuntu.com/71195/
[04:53] <caiphn> I just installed the OS today.
[04:53] <needhelpnoob> freddy_engels:  yes i do
[04:54] <kanhiya78> 1344 people in the room and no one is here to answer my question
[04:54] <needhelpnoob> freddy_engels:  it let me delete the majority of the folder. just a few that i suspect have windows viruses in them
[04:54] <mindrape> Dominik - go read up on the XFCE, Gnome, and KDE sites... each of them have different features and have various levels of configurability... pick the one that works for you.  You can also go to their channels #XFCE, #Gnome, #KDE and ask more detailed questions or get specific help.
[04:54] <caiphn> I have a wlan0:avahi and wmaster0
[04:54] <freddy_engels> needhelpnoob:Hm...
[04:55] <kanhiya78> this is community
[04:55] <freddy_engels> The files you suspect are viruses are not getting deleted?
[04:55] <psynophile> Here's my question: I have an eSATA controller installed in a PCI-E slot. When I try to boot the machine, ubuntu doesn't detect ANY drives, not even /dev/sda. Same thing happens with the boot/install/live disk. Thing is, if i turn the RAID box that I have attached to the eSATA controller OFF, then ubuntu works fine. When I turn it on after ubuntu is loaded, then it detects all of the drives. Help?
[04:55] <mindrape> caiphn - pull open an xterm and run            tail -f /var/log/messages    .... leave it open and watch for the next time your wireless fails.
[04:55] <mindrape> caiphn - also... pull open an xterm and type dmesg          see if you get hardware failures in there too.
[04:55] <Dominik> mindrape: im running on 460 megs and 800 mhz, I need very light environment
[04:55] <mindrape> caiphn - you will need sudo in front of the tail -f command.
[04:56] <thiebaude> kanhiya78:if someone knows the answer to your question they will have an answer
[04:56] <mindrape> Dominik - well then go with a no frills window manager but don't complain about its lack of features.
[04:56] <needhelpnoob> freddy_engels:  yes
[04:56] <myles7897> help, my times font is messed up. I've tried reinstalling msttcorefonts and nothing. Can someone help? http://i37.tinypic.com/jzjmue.png
[04:56] <Dominik> mindrape: I see. : )
[04:56] <kanhiya78> thiebaude: oh rally
[04:56] <needhelpnoob> freddy_engels: i suspect that to be the case. since it let me delete everything but certain folders such as "temp/cookies" etc
[04:57] <thiebaude> domink:i use fluxbox and have all the features of gnome
[04:57] <freddy_engels> needhelpnoob: Can you perform any operations on those files?
[04:57] <mindrape> Dominik - how big is your harddrive?
[04:57] <mindrape> was that 460 megs memory?  Do you mean 512mb?
[04:57] <needhelpnoob> freddy_engels: like what? lol im inexperienced with ubuntu xD
[04:57] <unfo> myles7897: why do you need Times New Roman?  :)
[04:57] <alex_mayorga> hi, the wireless card associates to my access point just fine, but then I can't ping the router or any website, can anyone help, please?
[04:57] <myles7897> unfo, school
[04:57] <needhelpnoob> freddy_engels: i can rename them
[04:57] <needhelpnoob> freddy_engels: if that counts as an operation
[04:58] <fryguy> thiebaude: how is that possible?
[04:58] <abchirk> thiebaude and what is with xfce4. has fluxbox more settings then xfce4? I miss on xfce4 e.g. the drag&drop options
[04:58] <unfo> myles7897:  I don't understand.
[04:58] <abortd> fluxbox is just a window manager right?
[04:58] <kanhiya78> how to find what graphics card i am using
[04:58] <mindrape> alex_mayorga: sudo ifconfig... what is your IP?  Did you grab a 169.x.x.x address?
[04:58] <freddy_engels> needhelpnoob: what does "ls -l" say?
[04:58] <myles7897> unfo, ,my school requires times new roman font. unless you know of a font that looks pretty much the same...
[04:58] <thiebaude> fryguy:all the programs i have on gnome i run in fluxbox
[04:58] <unfo> kanhiya78:  why do you want to know?  :)
[04:58] <abchirk> kanhiya78 lspci | grep vga
[04:58] <psynophile> unfo: his font is set to "Times New Roman" but the type is some decorative font...lol, no idea how he managed to do that
[04:58] <unfo> myles7897:  use Times instead.
[04:58] <mindrape> kanhiya78 - lsmod will tell you what module is loaded.
[04:58] <caiphn> mindrape: dmesg does not report any hardware failures that I can see, it does have quite a lengthy list here though. It does state that wlan0: link is not ready at the very end of it, but nothing that pertails to wireless... it also says that 8187B chip detected
[04:58] <fryguy> thiebaude: so you run gnome with a different window manager?
[04:58] <firestorm> Hi there. I am not running gnome's WM (metacity). Am using fluxbox but want to load gnome's keyboard controls which include multimedia keys etc. How can I do that?
[04:58] <caiphn> and that support is experminetal, but I don't imagine that has anything to do with the wireless
[04:59] <needhelpnoob> freddy_engels: total 4
[04:59] <needhelpnoob> drwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4096 2008-11-13 01:07 assembly
[04:59] <snigapoe> how to get the times new roman font into ubuntu???
[04:59] <alex_mayorga> mindrape: it gets an IP 192.168.1.115
[04:59] <caiphn> pertails = pertains
[04:59] <myles7897> don't have times. link to download?
[04:59] <thiebaude> fryguy:yes exactly, because i only have 512 mb of ram
[04:59] <mindrape> caiphn - is it a usb wireless card?  pci?  pcmcia?
[04:59] <unfo> snigapoe:  are you myles7897?
[04:59] <kanhiya78> unfo: i am using laptop and i have screen reolution problem
[04:59] <caiphn> USB
[04:59] <abortd> psynophile: probably renamed his font to times new roman or whatever you said
[04:59] <alex_mayorga> mindrape: the router/AP is on 192.168.1.1
[04:59] <unfo> kanhiya78:  what is your entire problem?  Do not tell me, tell the whole channel.
[04:59] <mindrape> snigapoe: sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts
[04:59] <abchirk> kanhiya78 sorry lspci | grep -i vga
[05:00] <n8tuser> alex_mayorga-> paste in pastebin your route -rn  and /etc/resolv.conf
[05:00] <caiphn> I'm goin to restart the system and use the tail command. I'm also going to look around for a glossary so I can start figuring out what these commands are doing
[05:00] <mindrape> alex_mayorga: sudo iwconfig         pastebin the text for me to read.
[05:00] <psynophile> fallore_: maybe sudo aptitude -y reinstall msttcorefonts ?
[05:00] <fryguy> thiebaude: i just don't run gnome on most of my machines because I seldom have a need for the features.  I do on one machine though, which is the question i've been asking that I can't seem to get an answer for
[05:00] <needhelpnoob> freddy_engels: any suggestions? :D
[05:00] <snigapoe> if i got some other font in window how can i copy them into ubuntu??
[05:00] <unfo> snigapoe: why do you want to?
[05:00] <freddy_engels> needhelpnoob: you're doing this as root, right?
[05:00] <psynophile> snigapoe: it depends, are they truetype fonts?
[05:00] <alex_mayorga> n8tuser: route: invalid option -- 'r'
[05:00] <needhelpnoob> freddy_engels:  yes
[05:01] <alex_mayorga> !patebin
[05:01] <snigapoe> not sure..coz i keept in window quiet long ago
[05:01] <metrick> How do you mount .iso files on ubuntu? i have 8.10
[05:01] <thiebaude> fryguy:i might have missed your original question
[05:01] <n8tuser> alex_mayorga-> route -n
[05:01] <snigapoe> few of them is chinese font
[05:01] <fryguy> I'm trying to run gnome on a remote x server.  Someone told me I need to install an x client for gnome to run in.  What client is this and how do I install it?
[05:01] <unfo> myles7897: ok, use Serif.  Do you have a serif font on your computer?
[05:01] <gluonman> If someone is familiar with synergy, it would be cool if you could check out my predicament. The tutorial I'm following is at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynergyHowto and I just created .synergy.conf. But when I issue the following command: synergys -f --config synergy.conf, I get the output pasted at http://paste.ubuntu.com/71195/
[05:01] <snigapoe> which i require to use it
[05:01] <alex_mayorga> !patebin
[05:01] <mindrape> unfo - please stop trolling by the way by asking people "why they want to know" the answer to their questions...
[05:01] <psynophile> metrick sudo mount -o loop /path/to/iso/file.iso /where/you/want/to/mount/it
[05:02] <thiebaude> fryguy:yea, i wish i could help, i dont even know what a x-server is
[05:02] <unfo> mindrape:  how is that trolling?  Most people should never need Microsoft Times New Roman.
[05:02] <freddy_engels> needhelpnoob, No, I'm not certain what to do.
[05:02] <mindrape> unfo - you, sir, are and idiot.
[05:02] <elitist> heloo
[05:02] <psynophile> try FreeSerif instead of Times New Roman
[05:02] <needhelpnoob> freddy_engels:  ok thanks for helping anyway
[05:02] <psynophile> I prefer it
[05:02] <n8tuser> mindrape-> kindly tone it down please
[05:02] <mindrape> unfo - most developers code stylesheets to request specific fonts and dont always list generic fonts like serif and sanserif
[05:03] <unfo> mindrape:  they don't specify graceful degradations?
[05:03] <mindrape> n8tuser - scroll up and read his comments to everybody... if you want to tell somebody to tone it down direct it at him.
[05:03] <mindrape> unfo - not in all instances... lurk more on the internet and you'll know this.
[05:03] <ditch64> K i have a 64 bit AMD processor, is there going to be a big difference if i run the 32 bit version as opposed to the 64 bit version?
[05:03] <fryguy> ditch64: no
[05:03] <mindrape> unfo - there are plenty of sites out there that list ONLY arial, times new roman, etc...
[05:03] <rdw200169_> ditch64: i agree, no
[05:03] <metrick> Im not to sure how mounting works, but i want to mount an iso image i have then copy it to a partition
[05:03] <unfo> mindrape: and does Ubuntu not substitute in FreeSerif?
[05:03] <unfo> firestorm:  what key did you press?  what did you expect should happen?  what happened?
[05:04] <rdw200169_> metrick: that's easy, mount -o loop file.iso /directory/to/mount
[05:04] <mindrape> unfo - ubuntu has made the msttcorefonts package available.  Stop trolling.  /rant
[05:04] <psynophile> metrick: it's more complex than that b/c you have a boot sector and ISO types, what are you trying to do?
[05:04] <needhelpnoob> can anyone help me force delete a folder? (rm -rf does not work)
[05:04] <alex_mayorga> mindrape, n8tuser, http://paste.ubuntu.com/71203/ and thanks BTW
[05:04] <daaaman64> Hi all, I need a tool to shrink my current ubuntu partition, and add a new one.
[05:04] <fryguy> daaaman64: gparted
[05:04] <unfo> myles7897:  repeat:  ok, use Serif.  Do you have a serif font on your computer?
[05:04] <thiebaude> unfo:they sure have
[05:04] <daaaman64> I can't remember if you can do this.
[05:04] <needhelpnoob> daaaman64: use gparted
[05:04] <mindrape> unfo -why do you want to know why people want to know?  (how would you like if I asked you this same idiotic question every time you asked them that?)
[05:04] <daaaman64> gparted? alrighty thanks. I need to install windows for something.
[05:04] <ditch64> thank you
[05:04] <unfo> mindrape:  because most people do not actually need msttcorefonts.
[05:05] <mindrape> unfo - well plenty of people want it and a package is available.  Clearly there is a need.
[05:05] <fryguy> daaaman64: consider running windows in a virtual machine.  It might be a better option for you
[05:05] <unfo> snigapoe:  did you try FreeSerif?
[05:05] <daaaman64> fryguy, been there done that. This doesn't run good enough.
[05:05] <mindrape> just because you don't know doesn't mean a need doesn't exist.
[05:05] <psynophile> metrick: if you're just trying to get the files out of it, i think that you can just right click the ISO and extract all...
[05:05] <daaaman64> Thanks though
[05:05] <snigapoe> nope...
[05:05] <needhelpnoob> ﻿can anyone help me force delete a folder? (rm -rf does not work)
[05:05] <unfo> mindrape:  many people who use the package don't need the package.
[05:05] <snigapoe> anyway resolve later
[05:05] <rdw200169_> daaaman64: and there are a few free virtual machines that will do it
[05:05] <snigapoe> gtg now..
[05:05] <snigapoe> thanks for your help
[05:05] <mindrape> unfo - many who do do
[05:05] <FloodBot3> snigapoe: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:05] <needhelpnoob> ﻿can anyone help me force delete a folder? (rm -rf does not work)
[05:05] <psynophile> needhelpnoob: sudo rm -rf
[05:05] <n8tuser> alex_mayorga-> do not have both wireless and ethernet connected to same router as your host does not know which interface it will route traffic (it may try both?)
[05:05] <firestorm> unfo: tried the Fn+vol up (hotkeyed with the UP arrow)... in gnome/metacity this will change volume up
[05:05] <metrick> I saved the iso image from my Windows CD, and my windows doesnt work anymore so i need to figuer out how to boot from that iso image
[05:05] <fryguy> why is everyone repeating what I say like 10 seconds later? am I lagging really badly or something?
[05:06] <needhelpnoob> psynophile: i used sudo
[05:06] <daaaman64> rdw200169, yes thanks. I use virtual box, unfortunately, this is a game building program my school gave out.
[05:06] <needhelpnoob> psynophile: it did not work
[05:06] <mindrape> unfo - there are perfectly good reasons to be able to use the same fonts when viewing/editing documents or webpages, especially for print purposes.
[05:06] <psynophile> metrick: burn it to a cd?
[05:06] <needhelpnoob> ﻿can anyone help me force delete a folder? (sudo rm -rf does not work)
[05:06] <snigapoe> wao...the way i type consider as flood??
[05:06] <alex_mayorga> n8tuser, the problem would occur even when I'm not wired to the router
[05:06] <mindrape> needhelpnoob - what error do you get?
[05:06] <psynophile> needhelpnoob: what's the name of the file or folder?
[05:06] <daaaman64> is there a way to install windows with out it runnin gover my bootloader? :(
[05:06] <rdw200169_> mindrape: unfo, yes, not to mention compatibility for wine
[05:06] <fryguy> daaaman64: no
[05:06] <mindrape> rdw200169 - exactly.
[05:06] <unfo> daaaman64:  yes.  you need VirtualBox.  You will not have 3D or DirectX support in Windows.
[05:06] <needhelpnoob> this is the error i get: rm: cannot remove directory `/media/disk/WINDOWS1/assembly/GAC_32/sd/2.0.0.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a': Operation not supported
[05:07] <metrick> Psynophile: I dont have a cd burner T_T
[05:07] <n8tuser> alex_mayorga-> well, just have one interface up at a time..it may confuse your routing
[05:07] <needhelpnoob> i have write permission
[05:07] <needhelpnoob> read/write permission]
[05:07] <psynophile> needhelpnoob: that's on a windows partition, why do you need to delete it?
[05:07] <mindrape> needhelpnoob: /media is a mount point
[05:07] <daaaman64> unfo, I'm using virtualbox, the games I'm creating run like crap in it.
[05:07] <unfo> daaaman64: ah.
[05:07] <mindrape> needhelpnoob - umount it instead of deleting it.
[05:07] <needhelpnoob> psynophile: it has a virus on it
[05:07] <needhelpnoob> psynophile: so i need to delete
[05:07] <mindrape> needhelpnoob - df -Th         that will show you what device it is and it's mount point.  man umount.
[05:07] <daaaman64> fryguy, does ubuntu have a grub restoring programming that I can use if I boot from the disc?
[05:07] <rdw200169_> daaaman64: rock on with the partition shrink then
[05:07] <fryguy> daaaman64: sort of
[05:07] <usser> daaaman64, try vmware workstation it has 3d support
[05:07] <fryguy> !grub | daaaman64
[05:08] <needhelpnoob> mindrape: i want to delete the folder since it has a virus on it
[05:08] <unfo> usser: are you 100% sure?  I doubt the 3D support works perfectly.
[05:08] <daaaman64> thanks fryguy
[05:08] <alex_mayorga> n8tuser, when I'm only wireless I get associated to the AP, but the only IP I can ping it's the IP assigned by DHCP, not the router, not any other host or site, any ideas
[05:08] <mindrape> needhelpnoob - well umount it then when you mount it dont mount it read only (ro).... check your /etc/fstab to see if it is set to automount and remove the ro option.
[05:08] <jonathon> i have a file i need to isntall but can only be done as it is .tar i can not find any others for it, as i had 5 people help me find an easy install so i must compile it from source, can anyone help me?
[05:08] <unfo> firestorm:  you are on an extremely high-traffic channel.  Please repeat your question as a full question.  Make sure that, all on one line, you specify:  your Ubuntu version, what key you pressed, what you wanted to happen, and what actually happened.  Prefix your question with "all, unfo, ".
[05:08] <n8tuser> alex_mayorga-> your wifi seems associated, can you also paste your ifconfig -a results?
[05:08] <fryguy> unfo: it came out in the most recent version of vmware, it's still very experimental, and pretty useless still
[05:08] <usser> unfo, i ran max payne 2 in workstation on nvidia 8600 worked fine
[05:09] <unfo> so who is right?  fryguy or usser?
[05:09] <psynophile> needhelpnoob: windows uses a file system called NTFS, it's proprietary, there's only experimental support for writing to NTFS partitions in linux. You can READ all day long, but writing is more difficult....
[05:09] <needhelpnoob> mindrape: mind giving me instructions on how to unmount?
[05:09] <giacomo> anybody with the "Cannot mix incompatible Qt libraries" error?
[05:09] <Flannel> psynophile: Actually, ntfs-3g is stable now
[05:09] <n8tuser> alex_mayorga-> once you are associated, compare the route -n  results in wifi and what you get when only using ethernet
[05:09] <daaaman64> fryguy, I"ve tried it an vmware also :( no luck
[05:09] <needhelpnoob> psynophile: i know. but i was able to delete other files in the folder
[05:09] <psynophile> Flannel: really? awesome
[05:09] <alex_mayorga> n8tuser: http://paste.ubuntu.com/71206/
[05:09] <mindrape> needhelpnoob - /msg me and I'll give you some step by step instructions.
[05:09] <usser> fryguy, unfo in 6.5 of workstation(the latest) it was released. I tried a couple of games they seemed to run with no problem
[05:10] <needhelpnoob> mindrape:  did you get my msg?
[05:10] <usser> daaaman64, you probably tried vmware server, 3d support only availabe on non-free workstation
[05:11] <n8tuser> alex_mayorga-> it seems to be okay, the metric for your wireless is 2 while 1 for eth0
[05:11] <fryguy> I'm trying to run gnome on a remote x server.  Someone told me I need to install an x client for gnome to run in.  What client is this and how do I install it?
[05:11] <psynophile> well, i doubt that anyone can help me, but here's my question again:
[05:11] <alex_mayorga> n8tuser, so I just unplug the ethernet and do route -n?
[05:11] <unfo> fryguy: why not just use vino instead of remote X?
[05:12] <unfo> vino is easier.
[05:12] <alex_mayorga> I'm pretty certain I would get dropped from the net, what else do you want me to try?
[05:12] <fryguy> unfo: what is vino
[05:12] <psynophile> Here's my question: I have an eSATA controller installed in a PCI-E slot. When I try to boot the machine, ubuntu doesn't detect ANY drives, not even /dev/sda. Same thing happens with the boot/install/live disk. Thing is, if i turn the RAID box that I have attached to the eSATA controller OFF, then ubuntu works fine. When I turn it on after ubuntu is loaded, then it detects all of the drives. Help?
[05:12] <n8tuser> alex_mayorga-> yah, but always start from clean, either eth0 only or wlan0 only
[05:12] <mynous> hwo do you find out what version of iptables you are running?
[05:12] <unfo> mynous:  why?
[05:12] <mindrape> iptables -L
[05:13] <mynous> kernel: [553530.520904] TCP: Treason uncloaked! Peer 89.180.17.161:36562/38969 shrinks window 2656125677:2656128497. Repaired.
[05:13] <mynous> lots of that
[05:13] <psynophile> iptables --version
[05:13] <unfo> mynous:  so just ignore it?  :)
[05:13] <alex_mayorga> mynous: iptables -V
[05:13] <mynous> thx
[05:13] <kingsofleon> anyone know of a good tutorial for packaging .deb files or on where files should be located etc?
[05:13] <fryguy> unfo: vino won't work in my situation.  do you have a solution to the question as asked?
[05:13] <unfo> kingsofleon:  what are you packaging?
[05:13] <alex_mayorga> n8tuser, do I need to reboot then or just unplug?
[05:13] <unfo> fryguy:  no :(  anyone?
[05:13] <Flannel> kingsofleon: Check the topic in #ubuntu-motu
[05:14] <n8tuser> alex_mayorga-> no need to reboot, you can use sudo ifdown eth0 to disable
[05:15] <unfo> kingsofleon:  repeat : what are you packaging?
[05:15] <psynophile> is there an IRC channel where someone can ask more "advanced" or more complicated questions?
[05:16] <psynophile> for ubuntu
[05:16] <jon_high9000> hi. is there a way to download free podcasts from itunes store website?
[05:16] <metrick> I have herd that you can mount iso files on virtual drives and copy the data into a created partition to install windows, can anyone tell me how this works?
[05:16] <caiphn> mindrape: Hi, so should something be happening?
[05:16] <unfo> psynophile:  please repeat your original question, then I will answer your last question.
[05:16] <psynophile> Here's my question: I have an eSATA controller installed in a PCI-E slot. When I try to boot the machine, ubuntu doesn't detect ANY drives, not even /dev/sda. Same thing happens with the boot/install/live disk. Thing is, if i turn the RAID box that I have attached to the eSATA controller OFF, then ubuntu works fine. When I turn it on after ubuntu is loaded, then it detects all of the drives. Help?
[05:16] <caiphn> mindrape: Sorry, with the tail command?
[05:17] <unfo> psynophile:  is it a server machine?
[05:17] <caiphn> mindrape: When the Wireless connecction dropped, should something have occured?
[05:17] <Flannel> psynophile: You should try the Alternate CD
[05:17] <psynophile> unfo: not really...
[05:17] <psynophile> Flannel: why?
[05:17] <mindrape> caiphn - yes... lsusb
[05:17] <Flannel> psynophile: Because it provides support for RAID/LVM/etc while installing.
[05:17] <mindrape> is it still listed in there?
[05:18] <exmachina> how come when i do lsmod | grep CDemu    nothing shows up even though i restarted it with /etc/init.d/cdemud restart    (sucessfully)
[05:18] <exmachina> i tried grep -i
[05:19] <psynophile> Flannel: don't know if this is clear from my question or not, but I'm not installing ubuntu *onto* the raid array, i'm installing it onto the hdd on the desktop machine...does that matter?
[05:19] <whileimhere> Can someone suggest a tool to use to easily and graphically manage services running on my laptop?;
[05:19] <psynophile> whileimhere: bum
[05:20] <whileimhere> Okay is that in synaptic?
[05:20] <thiebaude> whileimhere:htop
[05:20] <psynophile> whileimhere: yea, should be
[05:20] <Flannel> psynophile: You could try it.  It might be that the RAID makes the desktop CD's stuff freak out
[05:20] <wos1> .
[05:20] <daaaman64> lol okay how do I edit the partition I'm currently on if I can't unmount it? :P
[05:20] <wos1> !BlueZ
[05:20] <try2free> where to get printer driver for epson lq 2180?
[05:20] <unfo> whileimhere: which services?
[05:20] <daaaman64> can this not be done?
[05:20] <Appi> anyone help me. I am unable to open the browser
[05:20] <psynophile> Flannel: yea, it's freaking out alright...okay, i'll give it a shot, thank you
[05:20] <wos1> could someone help me with BlueZ
[05:21] <Flannel> psynophile: or, just disconnect it while installing, then reconnect later
[05:21] <Dominik> ok, how come my BIOS can support screen brightness change, but UBUNTU can NOT? that seems very weak
[05:21] <whileimhere> unfo: I know that most of the services on my laptop are not needed but there are some like acpid and apmd that I am not sure about.
[05:21] <isilion> nas
[05:21] <psynophile> Flannel: yea...i've thought about putting some instructions on it for the user..but..meh, i dunno..just seems like it'd be easy to mess up for him
[05:22] <wos1> can anyone help me with blueZ
[05:22] <kusanagi_> when i chmod in gftp in some remote files, it gives me several "special" options: SUID SGID and sticky... do you know what this 3 means?
[05:22] <unfo> whileimhere:  I don't know the answer to your original question.  I strongly suggest you just leave them all enabled.  Why do you want to disable some?
[05:22] <daaaman64> Can I shrink a partition I am currently running on?
[05:22] <isilion> help. window manager has gone in firefox window. only in that window. it not aappears minimize, maximize or close buttons
[05:22] <psynophile> Flannel: not to mention ubuntu has to be fully up before it will detect the drives...i've already lvm'ed and mdadm'ed into a raid 5
[05:22] <isilion> nor title
[05:22] <SimTech> can someone help me with my code http://codepad.org/SPyfLFnc, everything works except, the output first three digits outputs all 7 :S
[05:22] <alex_mayorga1> n8tuser: here's whit wifi only http://paste.ubuntu.com/71207/ still no go :(
[05:23] <caiphn> mindrape: It's the first one on the list.
[05:23] <whileimhere> unfo: It seems the more enabled the slower the laptop.
[05:23] <n8tuser> alex_mayorga-> can you ping 192.168.1.1  ?
[05:24] <unfo> whileimhere:  what is too slow about your laptop?  word processing?  web browsing?  flash movies?  games?  what?
[05:24] <isilion> help. window manager has gone in firefox window. only in that window. it not aappears minimize, maximize or close buttons nor title.
[05:24] <alex_mayorga1> n8tuser: negative, that's as deep as I've got
[05:24] <ardchoille> Ok, I solved my "blank tty after installing nvidia" problem. The 177 and 173 drivers cause the problem but replacing them with the 96 drivers seems to fix the issue.
[05:24] <whileimhere> unfo: apps opening closing and the graphics progs go slower as well
[05:25] <unfo> whileimhere:  which apps and graphics progs especially?
[05:25] <n8tuser> alex_mayorga-> lets have your wifi re-acquire an ip address.  sudo  ifdown wlan0;  sudo ifup wlan0
[05:25] <alex_mayorga1> n8tuser: does it have anything to do with the bogus wmaster0  Link encap:UNSPEC  HWaddr 00-1A-92-1A-98-FE-38-66-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00  ?
[05:25] <n8tuser> alex_mayorga-> and lets see if you can ping 192.168.1.1
[05:25] <giacomo> help please "Cannot mix incompatible Qt libraries"
[05:26] <euxneks> how do I blacklist a USB peripheral from showing up in ubuntu?
[05:26] <alex_mayorga1> n8tuser, I can't unless I'm "wired"
[05:26] <whileimhere> GIMP Open office.
[05:26] <n8tuser> alex_mayorga-> lets have your wifi re-acquire an ip address.  sudo  ifdown wlan0;  sudo ifup wlan0   <-- this first
[05:26] <gluonman> Is anyone familiar with the process of setting up a synergy server?
[05:26] <isilion> help. window manager has gone in firefox window. only in that window. it not aappears minimize, maximize or close buttons nor title. nor panel its showed when firefox windows is active. please help
[05:27] <n8tuser> alex_mayorga-> and lets see if you can ping 192.168.1.1 after
[05:27] <Hilton> Greetings all. I'm reinstalling Ubuntu. It's been sitting at 82% "Scanning the mirror" for 15+ minutes now. Is there a way I can force it past this?
[05:27] <bazhang_> isilion, you using compiz?
[05:28] <alex_mayorga1> n8tuser, weird ifdown: interface wlan0 not configured
[05:28] <bazhang_> Hilton, give it a bit more time
[05:28] <isilion> yes bazhang_
[05:28] <Hilton> How much time can it possibly need to download a package list?
[05:28] <bazhang_> isilion, first disable it
[05:29] <unfo> Hilton:  come join me in #ubuntu-bugs
[05:29] <n8tuser> alex_mayorga-> and if you sudo ifup wlan0   ?
[05:29] <bazhang_> Hilton, this is via gui or command line
[05:29] <isilion> how bazhang_ ? must uninstall?
[05:29] <Hilton> gui installer.
[05:29] <Ketzu> Howdy fellas
[05:29] <Ketzu> I'm having a bit of a weird problem here
[05:29] <bazhang_> isilion, no; alt f2 metacity --replace
[05:29] <n8tuser> Hilton-> thats where it attempts to find repositories, just wait a lil more
[05:29] <alex_mayorga1> n8tuser: Ignoring unknown interface wlan0=wlan0. yet it shows under ifconfig
[05:29] <Ketzu> I have a DVD tat I can't seem to read all the contents of
[05:29] <unfo> Hilton:  please repeat your question there.
[05:29] <isilion> ok
[05:30] <Ketzu> It's a data DVD. Is there some sort of decryption software I should be getting?
[05:30] <isilion> firefox windows still the same
[05:30] <n8tuser> alex_mayorga-> verify with  sudo lshw -C network
[05:30] <bazhang_> isilion, restart ff with compiz off
[05:30] <isilion> ok i closed all, opened one and its fixed. thx
[05:31] <grendal_prime> ok this is really pissing me off where can i download a copy of gutsy 7.10?
[05:31] <n8tuser> Ketzu-> partially you can read some of the contents?
[05:31] <isilion> bazhang_, should i alt f2 compiz --replace && emerald --replace?
[05:31] <Ketzu> n8tuser: Yeah.
[05:31] <grendal_prime> it is the only version that will run on this machine i have..everything else will not support the video card
[05:31] <unfo> grendal_prime:  then you should file a bug report.
[05:31] <grendal_prime> everyone has..
[05:31] <Ketzu> n8tuser: It's the wow expansion actually. I can see the installer and DirectX folder, but none of the game files
[05:31] <bazhang_> isilion, you may wish to check some of the compiz plugins or use a different window decorator than emerald
[05:31] <n8tuser> Ketzu-> ask the originator of it?
[05:31] <grendal_prime> that has one of these machines
[05:32] <alex_mayorga1> n8tuser: paste?
[05:32] <grendal_prime> and there are posted fixes wich none of work.
[05:32] <aeosynth> where do I go to edit visual effects settings? I want the entire window to show when I resize, instead of just seeing a blue screen thing
[05:32] <n8tuser> alex_mayorga-> yes
[05:32] <Hilton> grendal_prime: Radeon card? :P I feel you.
[05:32] <Ketzu> n8tuser: Of the DVD?
[05:32] <isilion> what other windows decorator?
[05:32] <Dominik> November
[05:32] <ccg> on a system where a sata harddrive is mounted under / , df and /etc/fstab dont even show the device, where i can find out the device ?
[05:32] <bazhang_> aeosynth, you have ccsm installed?
[05:32] <gluonman> Anyone here savy with synergy?
[05:32] <unfo> grendal_prime:  everyone has?  Tell me the Launchpad bug number please.
[05:32] <alex_mayorga1> n8tuser: how long would my MAC address be wandering around in pastebin :(
[05:32] <grendal_prime> i just need a word processors machine... no even better Hilton dell inspiron laptop with an intel 1810 vid card.
[05:32] <aeosynth> bazhang: I'm on intrepid ibex, nothing special installed
[05:33] <grendal_prime> integrated with dri shared memory needs.
[05:33] <n8tuser> Ketzu-> well, maybe it is encrypted indeed
[05:33] <bazhang_> aeosynth, then install it (!ccsm)
[05:33] <roshan> does anyone know what the feature was called where you can roll up a window to just its titlebar and back?
[05:33] <n8tuser> alex_mayorga1-> i dont know
[05:33] <gavagai> Can i make gnometerminal display a title for the hostname after I ssh ?
[05:33] <faryshta> Hi, I tried this command $ sudo mount /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom
[05:33] <alex_mayorga1> n8tuser: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/71212/
[05:33] <gavagai> after i ssh into a server it still has my machine's user and hostname in the title
[05:33] <roshan> does anyone know what the feature was called where you can roll up a window to just its titlebar and back? i don't seem to have it after i installed intrepid. do i have to enable it somewhere?
[05:34] <faryshta> And gives me this message error $ The special dispositive /dev/cdrom don't exists
[05:34] <euxneks> is there a way to forcibly prevent Ubuntu from connecting to a device?
[05:34] <bazhang_> roshan, check the plugins in ccsm
[05:34] <unfo> euxneks:  why?
[05:34] <euxneks> vi USB I mean
[05:34] <grendal_prime> there are 5 different websites posting fixes for this none of wich work..and a 6th site that says...dont bother with anything past 710.  its proven broken.  crappy part i was running debian stable on the thing for like a year
[05:34] <unfo> grendal_prime:  Tell me the Launchpad bug number please.
[05:34] <roshan> bazhang_: i know i checked but i didnt see it which was why i was asking as to if anyone knew what it was called
[05:34] <euxneks> unfo, well I have an iPod touch I want to pass through to virtualBox and it's getting locked by ubuntu before I can do that
[05:35] <hollanbm> Does anyone know how to force apps to open in a specific window
[05:35] <grendal_prime> where is this launchpad i will find it on there
[05:35] <Kengine> how do I install latex in Ubuntu ? says latex command not found, do I use "sudo apt-get install latex" ?
[05:35] <hollanbm> specific workspace*****
[05:35] <unfo> euxneks:  ah.  I don't know the answer.  Please ask again.
[05:35] <bazhang_> roshan, let me check mine hold on a second
[05:35] <IntangibleLiquid> hi, RMIT is hosting the first Barcamp event in HCMC, they provide us with free wifi access via their proxy. I can get the wifi without authentication but need to log onto the proxy, how do i set up a proxy connection on Ubuntu/Firefox?
[05:35] <unfo> Kengine:  did you look on Google yet?  :)
[05:35] <Serway> hey guys, what editor do you recccomend for a beginner ruby on rails user?
[05:35] <mindrape> Kengine: yes
[05:35] <unfo> Serway:  gedit
[05:35] <roshan> bazhang_: ok thank you
[05:35] <aeosynth> thanks bazhang =)
[05:35] <mindrape> Kengine - dont listen to unfo he is a troll
[05:35] <faryshta> Hi, I tried this command $ sudo mount /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom
[05:35] <faryshta> And gives me this message error $ The special dispositive /dev/cdrom don't exists
[05:35] <euxneks> How do I prevent Ubuntu from taking over a USB device I want to load in a virtualbox?
[05:35] <faryshta> I can't use my cdrom
[05:35] <Ketzu> n8tuser: How would I decrypt it?
[05:36] <n8tuser> alex_mayorga1-> oh you have the infamous broadcom 43xx  chips..sorry i would not be much help with that one
[05:36] <mindrape> faryshta - dmesg and look for the specific device name for your cdrom... it might not be /dev/cdrom
[05:36] <hollanbm> euxnets: you need to plug it in, then remove it and replug it in, that shuold work
[05:36] <giacomo> could someone post me the "ldd /usr/bin/qtconfig" of an up-to-date intrepid ?
[05:36] <Kengine> mindrape: E: Package latex has no installation candidate
[05:36] <gavagai> Kengine, sudo apt-get install texlive-latex-base
[05:36] <Kengine> mindrape: I tried tex too
[05:36] <n8tuser> Ketzu-> i dont know, security is black magic to me
[05:36] <gluonman> Synergy anyone?
[05:36] <alex_mayorga1> n8tuser, can you contribute anything to the bug report?
[05:36] <gavagai> Kengine, do aptitude search latex for more
[05:37] <roshan> unfo: can you help me? firefox seems to be display passwords when i enter it into the password field instead of asteriks
[05:37] <mindrape> Kengine: texlive
[05:37] <kkathman> anyone here know for sure if acpid is a mandatory process on a plugged in desktop unit?
[05:37] <faryshta> mindrape, I will try, the command gives a lot of responses
[05:37] <n8tuser> alex_mayorga1-> if i have to contribute i can perhaps, but as of now, i have none, however you can if you have a bug
[05:37] <Kengine> mindrape: holy crap, thats 136MB :(
[05:37] <giacomo> I'm back
[05:38] <Kengine> mindrape: thanks man
[05:38] <unfo> roshan:  maybe someone else here can.  Please do not ask me for help.  Ask everyone.  Please repeat your question without the "unfo:" in it.
[05:38] <mindrape> Kengine - tetex-base, tetex-bin, tetex-extras  maybe smaller?
[05:38] <Hilton> n8tuser: I gave up after 30 minutes of scanning mirrors.
[05:38] <roshan> unfo: i know. i just like annoying trolls. backfiring is what it's called
[05:38] <Hilton> console, kill apt-get did the trick! :P
[05:38] <Kengine> mindrape: nah, I will download it anyway
[05:38] <Hilton> Install continuing as normal.
[05:38] <n8tuser> Hilton-> oh well, then start from scratch again
[05:38] <unfo> roshan:  how am i trolling?
[05:38] <alex_mayorga1> n8tuser: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/b43-fwcutter/+bug/286071
[05:39] <grendal_prime> ok unfo here ya go there are 132 entrys for this bad boy
[05:39] <grendal_prime> https://launchpad.net/+search?field.text=inspiron+1100+video
[05:39] <n8tuser> alex_mayorga1-> as ive said if its the infamous one, i am of no help on that
[05:39] <bazhang_> roshan, I could not find it; I am currently asking in #compiz-fusion
[05:39] <wos1> can somebody please help me install some BlueZ libraries and tools???????????????????????????
[05:39] <unfo> grendal_prime:  I need a bug number please.
[05:40] <alex_mayorga1> !b43
[05:40] <mindrape> unfo - you are very obvious about your trolling... playing the denial game isn't going to make you any less of a troll.
[05:40] <roshan> bazhang_: ok i'll try and ask in the channel myself then. it's on freenode right?
[05:40] <abortd> alex_mayorga1: http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43
[05:41] <abortd> is that what you need?
[05:41] <unfo> roshan:  mindrape:  how am i trolling?
[05:41] <wos1> bazhang_: flannel: can you help me with BlueZ
[05:41] <bazhang_> roshan, it is decided by the decorator; I am asking them for alternatives to emerald
[05:41] <n8tuser> alex_mayorga1-> also can you paste your /etc/network/interfaces file, to confirm what i see in your previous paste ?
[05:41] <faryshta> mindrape, sorry I can't find anything which mention CD or cd, I used the grep command to find it.
[05:41] <ardchoille> !compiz > me
[05:41] <mindrape> unfo - why do you want to know?
[05:41] <kusanagi_> when i chmod in gftp in some remote files, it gives me several "special" options: SUID SGID and sticky... do you know what this 3 means?
[05:41] <FAJALOU> hi i am trying to decrypt some files; i copied the key over to the other computer:  but when i rightclick>decrypt it says that i don't have the right key... What am i doing wrong?  thanks
[05:41] <bazhang_> roshan, its #compiz-fusion ; /j #compiz-fusion
[05:42] <n8tuser> alex_mayorga1-> like this line have..     ip=192.168.1.116
[05:42] <roshan> bazhang_ thanks i got it
[05:42] <mindrape> faryshta: look for something w the vendor information, not CDROM...
[05:42] <roshan> unfo: this is what i got it from: <mindrape> Kengine - dont listen to unfo he is a troll
[05:42] <mindrape> !grub | needhelpnoob
[05:42] <Ohmu> My file firefox downloader is getting like 10% of a file then finishing.  No error.  Just says 'done'.  This is odd.
[05:42] <unfo> mindrape:  because if I knew what I was doing wrong, I could stop doing it.
[05:42] <alex_mayorga1> n8tuser: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/71213/
[05:43] <matthias> hi anyone have a functional deriver for ati mobility radeon x1400 workijg in ubuntu intrepid ibx or version 8.10
[05:43] <unfo> roshan:  perhaps mindrape was wrong when he said that.
[05:43] <unfo> matthias:  do you need 3D?
[05:43] <mindrape> perhaps that is something a troll would say?
[05:43] <alex_mayorga1> abortd: do they have an IRC?
[05:43] <roshan> unfo: ok then im sorry
[05:43] <unfo> roshan:  it's ok.
[05:43] <abortd> no idea
[05:43] <FAJALOU> hi i am trying to decrypt some files; i copied the key over to the other computer:  but when i rightclick>decrypt it says that i don't have the right key... What am i doing wrong?  thanks
[05:43] <unfo> mindrape:  true.  But I sincerely believe I am not a troll.
[05:43] <Hilton> n8tuser: For future reference, "Scanning the mirror..." hangups can be cured by dropping to console and killing apt-get. Installation continued as normal, with no apparent side-effects so far (now running the installed OS)
[05:44] <abortd> alex_mayorga1: there is a #wireless chan
[05:44] <matthias> unfo: i guess so, doesent all need 3d, well for now my movies is flicking ...
[05:44] <Hilton> n8tuser: Thought you'd like to know.
[05:44] <mindrape> unfo - obvious troll looking to not get /kb'd is sincere in his denial.
[05:44] <n8tuser> alex_mayorga1-> odd that your ethernet also show that ip address 192.168.1.116
[05:44] <grendal_prime> ok unfo here ya go this is exactly the same problem im having
[05:44] <grendal_prime> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/289945https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/289945
[05:44] <unfo> mindrape: true.
[05:45] <n8tuser> Hilton-> is it continuing the install?
[05:45] <unfo> grendal_prime: i will look, 1 sec
[05:45] <mindrape> unfo why do you sincerely believe you are not a troll?  Why do you have to believe and why don't you just know?
[05:45] <Hilton> n8tuser: Install continued, completed, and I'm now in the fresh desktop.
[05:45] <alex_mayorga1> n8tuser: might it be the dhcp on my router messing around?
[05:45] <mindrape> unfo - why do I have to question you and be completely beligerent for you to get the point that when people come to a support channel they are allowed to ask questions and not be told to go google or asked why they want to know?
[05:45]  * kkathman is having difficulty determining WHO the troll is :)
[05:45] <n8tuser> Hilton-> alright dude, i hope everything worked
[05:45] <bazhang_> mindrape, what is the issue
[05:45] <FAJALOU> hi i am trying to decrypt some files; i copied the key over to the other computer:  but when i rightclick>decrypt it says that i don't have the right key... What am i doing wrong?  thanks
[05:46] <Hilton> n8tuser: Everything appears normal. I think it was just hung on a slow or non-responsive mirror.
[05:46] <unfo> mindrape:  the latex user would have been satisfied by google.
[05:46] <needhelpnoob> anyone know how to solve my grub problem? Error 15: File not found when i use "find /boot/grub/stage1" command
[05:46] <unfo> mindrape:  I think
[05:46] <n8tuser> alex_mayorga1-> i dont really know, you have not elaborated on how your network setup is, and how many nic cards you have
[05:46] <djhash> matthias: do you have compiz running?
[05:46] <n8tuser> Hilton-> okay
[05:46] <unfo> grendal_prime:  could you please repaste those two links on two separate lines?  I can't click.
[05:47] <mindrape> unfo - wouldn't all users here be satisfied by google?  You think there is something in here we know that google doesnt?
[05:47] <alex_mayorga1> n8tuser, I have a router WRT54GC linksys and my laptop has both a broacom wireless and wired card
[05:47] <grendal_prime> by the way i tried to extract the 710 that came with my 1420 and install it..it installed but is..funky cause it was actualy a system restore disk so it sucked
[05:47] <grendal_prime> sure
[05:47] <bazhang_> mindrape, please let it go
[05:47] <unfo> mindrape:  not all users can be satisfied by google, but some can.
[05:47] <grendal_prime> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/289945
[05:47] <blinkn1> hello
[05:47] <grendal_prime> sorry i didnt realize that happend
[05:47] <unfo> hi
[05:47] <kkathman> bazhang_,  thank you!
[05:47] <mindrape> bazhang_: I really cant... trolls need to be kicked or silenced.  If you wont then silence me... I refuse to let him continue being rude to people.
[05:47] <alex_mayorga1> and an ethernet cable conects my laptop to the router, because the wireless wouldn't work at al
[05:47] <NinjaELF> Hello everyone!
[05:47] <unfo> hi
[05:47] <n8tuser> Hilton funny thing is, once a malfunctioning app appears, you will start doubting if your install was really completed or not
[05:47] <NinjaELF>  :)
[05:48] <abortd> mindrape: this is like all the google answers in a live chat i bet you also like answering machines when you call tech support right?
[05:48] <azfira> ritha
[05:48] <bazhang_> please take all non-support chat to #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:48] <mindrape> abortd - you just proved my point.  :)
[05:48] <NinjaELF> Is it posible to restrict the mouse movements so the point will not go outside of a defined box area?
[05:48] <needhelpnoob> hey guys let's all just get along eh?
[05:48] <abortd> ok
[05:49] <Appl3Kork> i plugged in ethernet to my laptop, and it was showing in the top right that it was actually trying to connect?  Does that mean that my ethernet driver is already installed?
[05:49] <needhelpnoob> :D
[05:49] <abortd>  atleast i did something then right?
[05:49] <matthias> djhash:  tried that but my flickering still remains, i am reinstalling it ...
[05:49] <abortd> :P
[05:49] <djhash> matthias: dont
[05:49] <unfo> bazhang_: mindrape: Kengine: roshan: ok I joined #ubuntu-offtopic, let's please take this there
[05:49] <FAJALOU> hi i am trying to decrypt some files; i copied the key over to the other computer:  but when i rightclick>decrypt it says that i don't have the right key... What am i doing wrong?  thanks
[05:49] <needhelpnoob> .j #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:49] <djhash> matthias: the problem is that some video players want to use opengl to play the video while compiz is using that.. if you use VLC.. i can show you how to stop the flickering
[05:50] <matthias> djhash:  yes i am using vlc
[05:50] <djhash> matthias: what version do you have
[05:50] <grendal_prime> unfo i can run it in vesa mode...but damn if i can get the black border to  to disapear and anything but vesa just black screens and calles up the the xorg dbug box thing...wich is lame by the way. because even when i put the old vesa config back it still just crashes untell i reboot the box. and yes ive gone to a tty and killed x the old fashoned way and tried resatrting it a half a dozen diff ways.
[05:51] <azfira> aaaaaaaaa
[05:51] <phoenix24> Hi, Can anyone please guide me on How does one go about compiling eclipse-IDE ?
[05:51] <bazhang_> azfira, please stop
[05:51] <unfo> azfira:  please do not press Enter in mid-sentence.
[05:51] <giacomo> anybody here?
[05:51] <unfo> phoenix24:  why compile it yourself?
[05:51] <unfo> giacomo:  no, i am not :)
[05:51] <n8tuser> alex_mayorga1-> the way you have your interfaces file, thats not how i would set up mine, id specify the interfaces instead of just lo
[05:51] <needhelpnoob> anyone able to help me? when i run: find /boot/grub/stage1. i get Error 15: File not found
[05:51] <Neurologic> hmm, I'm having an issue with Evolution Mail, it crashes upon opening preferences?
[05:51] <unfo> grendal_prime:  Please repeat that last line more clearly.
[05:51] <mindrape> unfo - quit asking people why they want to do something.  Just help them or be quiet.
[05:51] <grendal_prime> does anyone know of a location  where i can get an iso of 710?
[05:51] <alex_mayorga1> n8tuser, I never modified manually
[05:52] <unfo> Neurologic:  please join me in #ubuntu-bugs, and repeat your question there
[05:52] <matthias> djhash:  vlc i guess latest one ..., let me check ...
[05:52] <alex_mayorga1> n8tuser, I'm comming all the way from intrepid alpha, so  that might be the problem
[05:52] <alex_mayorga1> n8tuser, how should it look?
[05:52] <faryshta> mindrape, sorry still can't find it :(
[05:52] <n8tuser> alex_mayorga1-> possibly, id do a fresh install
[05:52] <needhelpnoob> ﻿anyone able to help me? when i run: find /boot/grub/stage1. i get Error 15: File not found
[05:52] <grendal_prime> the part about killing X the old fashoned way?  or restarting it half a dozen diff ways?
[05:52] <drunk> grendal_prime, http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[05:52] <bazhang_> http://releases.ubuntu.com/7.10/ grendal_prime
[05:52] <matthias> djhash:  0.9.4 of vlc
[05:52] <faryshta> I was using my DVD last week don't know what happened.
[05:53] <penguin-up> where do i find my ubuntu version number?
[05:53] <n8tuser> alex_mayorga1-> id remove all those # comment lines
[05:53] <needhelpnoob> ﻿anyone able to help me? when i run: find /boot/grub/stage1. i get Error 15: File not found
[05:53] <bazhang_> !version > penguin-up
[05:53] <grendal_prime> ya bazhang_ thanks but that never resolves
[05:53] <needhelpnoob> anyone able to help me? when i run: find /boot/grub/stage1. i get Error 15: File not found
[05:53] <alex_mayorga1> n8tuser, also iface lo inet loopback line?
[05:53] <grendal_prime> ive found half a dozen links that point there and i never see anything materialize
[05:53] <djhash> matthias: ok.. run vlc-> tools-> preferences-> at the bottom.. show ALL settings -> video  then on the right side.. change it from default to X11
[05:53] <matthias> djhash:  got from the repo ...
[05:54] <needhelpnoob> ﻿anyone able to help me? when i run: find /boot/grub/stage1. i get Error 15: File not found
[05:54] <n8tuser> alex_mayorga1-> id remove all those # comment lines  effectively specifying all the interfaces
[05:54] <bazhang_> grendal_prime, works fine here
[05:54] <unfo> phoenix24:  mindrape:  Nobody should ever suffer to build eclipse themselves.  Why would you want to compile it yourself?
[05:54] <drunk> sounds like the file isn't there needhelpnoob
[05:54] <unfo> It is available prebuilt.
[05:54] <raheem> needhelpnoob: did u try with sudo grub or just grub only
[05:54] <needhelpnoob> sudo grub
[05:54] <needhelpnoob> i installed ubuntu through windows
[05:54] <unfo> wubi?
[05:54] <needhelpnoob> *within windows
[05:54] <needhelpnoob> yes i think so
[05:54] <naenae87> ok guys who can help me
[05:54] <grendal_prime> bazhang_: oh come you you have to be kidding me?
[05:54] <needhelpnoob> whatever the livecd offers
[05:55] <djhash> matthias: or tools->preferences->video.. then change output to X11..
[05:55] <phoenix24> unfo, I'm a lazy geek with lots of time at disposal.
[05:55] <raheem> the live cd offers everything, so which one u selected ?
[05:55] <needhelpnoob> so im guessing cause of that the directory names are different?
[05:55] <rubydiamond>  /join #emacs
[05:55] <needhelpnoob> i think wubi
[05:55] <mindrape> unfo - there are plenty of reasons to compile something.  Gentoo exists for the joy of it.
[05:55] <Trae> anyone know how to lock a window in metacity so it won't move until you unlock it?  I'm playing World of Warcraft under Wine, and trying to keep from moving the window around the screen accidently  (playing in windowed mode)
[05:55] <phoenix24> unfo, well there are other reasons too. 1, performance. 2, feature. etc.
[05:55] <matthias> djhash:  done
[05:56] <needhelpnoob> raheem: any ideas?
[05:56] <raheem> !grub
[05:56] <mindrape> unfo - nobody should have to suffer through you questioning why they want to do something when they come to get support.
[05:56] <djhash> matthias: now try playing a movie
[05:56] <VPS|KDE> you could try 'locate stage'    if that file is new, you might have to do 'sudo updatedb' first
[05:56] <matthias> djhash:  let me try ...
[05:56] <grendal_prime> bazhang_: can you get an ip for me?
[05:56] <unfo> phoenix24:  I don't know the exact command you need, but it is something like sudo apt-get build-dep eclipse -yq && apt-get source eclipse -yqb
[05:56] <needhelpnoob> thanks VPS|KDE
[05:56] <mindrape> unfo - just because you have preconceived notions and preferences doesn't mean the rest of the world shares them.
[05:56] <VPS|KDE> yw
[05:56] <grendal_prime> it is not resloving for whatever reason
[05:56] <mindrape> unfo - your bias towards binary-only installs is disturbing.
[05:56] <bazhang_> !offtopic | mindrape
[05:56] <alex_mayorga1> n8tuser: sorry to abuse your kindness, but would you pastebin the suggested /etc/network/interfaces ?
[05:56] <mindrape> bazhang_: tell it to unfo.
[05:57] <mindrape> bazhang_: he isn't helping people.  He is questioning them incessantly.
[05:57] <naenae87> ok i got a wireless G usb card that i need instructions on how to install in Xubuntu or Ubuntu is fine since they are essintially the same thing. and please make an easy to understand website. maybe give me a few to work with if you gott em.
[05:57] <faryshta> I can't use my CDROM, need help.
[05:57] <mindrape> I am helping people and trying to help them avoid him.  If you want to kick me knock yourself out... who will help people out though?
[05:57] <mindrape> You'll have unfo to question them... if that is what you want then /kb me.
[05:57] <azfira> #kendari
[05:57] <matthias> djhash:  GREAT WORK ...
[05:57] <djhash> matthias: have fun with your unflickering video ;-)
[05:57] <grendal_prime> grrrrrrrrr this makes no sence
[05:58] <unfo> phoenix24:  did that start working for you?  It might take 12 hours to finish.
[05:58] <azfira> rirhy
[05:58] <matthias> djhash:  thanks , onbe more thing ...
[05:58] <VPS|KDE> dont let the small things bother you mindrape, life's way too short for that :)
[05:58] <alex_mayorga1> naenae87, what happens when you plug it?
[05:58] <phoenix24> unfo, that's pathetic.
[05:58] <naenae87> nothing it doesnt recognize it
[05:58] <naenae87> i gotta install the drivers
[05:58] <mindrape> VPS|KDE - I take a lot of time to help people out... I've been in the community for years and people like unfo ruin it.
[05:58] <skurk3n> hi!!!
[05:58] <unfo> phoenix24 what is pathetic?
[05:58] <unfo> skurk3n: hi
[05:58] <djhash> matthias: shot
[05:58] <onthefence9281> how do i get wine to read and install the new WoW expansion DVD?
[05:58] <djhash> shoot
[05:58] <skurk3n> UBUNTU on a ps3 ???
[05:58] <mindrape> VPS|KDE - I can just as easily /part but I am trying to help people out.
[05:58] <unfo> onthefence9281: did you try #winehq yet?
[05:59] <phoenix24> unfo, 12 hrs is way too much :(
[05:59] <onthefence9281> unfo: is that on this network?
[05:59] <unfo> phoenix24:  it might be less.
[05:59] <bazhang_> onthefence9281, yes
[05:59] <unfo> phoenix24:  but eclipse is huge.  Save me and you time and effort:  use apt-get to install it.
[05:59] <faryshta> can someone help me to get my cdrom recognized?
[05:59] <drunk> UBUNTU on a 360?
[05:59] <unfo> onthefence9281: yes
[05:59] <matthias> djhash:  i hade earlier today i was looking at clips in youtube and installed the adobe flash player from the repos but after 1 hour or so the cpu load was up in 80%, nay experiance with that ....
[06:00] <onthefence9281> unfo, bazhang_: thnx
[06:00] <skurk3n> drunk on a playstation 3
[06:00] <naenae87> ﻿ok i got a wireless G usb card that i need instructions on how to install in Xubuntu or Ubuntu is fine since they are essintially the same thing. and please make an easy to understand website. maybe give me a few to work with if you gott em.
[06:00] <VPS|KDE> well im sure everyone can appreciate that passion mindrape , shame not everyone has that fire in their belly. (ill shut up now before being told to join #Ubuntu-offtopic)
[06:00] <drunk> sounds interesting, i have no pS3 though
[06:00] <matthias> djhash:  i guess have to do with adobe but as well an guess with no evidence ...
[06:01] <needhelpnoob> VPS|KDE: so when i find that folder i replace /boot/grub/stage1 with wherever stage1 folder is found. but it still gives me file not found error
[06:01] <alex_mayorga1> !flood > naenae87
[06:01] <grendal_prime> never mind bazhang_ i got the ip..it still never comes through ..what the hell country is that in..america may be filtering it.
[06:01] <grendal_prime> hehehe
[06:01] <needhelpnoob> what do i do in this case?
[06:01] <unfo> VPS|KDE:  come join me in #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:01] <djhash> matthias: seems like everyone and their mothers are having problems with flash and firefox.. some are slow, some take too much memory, some have no sound, some take too much CPU.. i've heard it all.. the only thing I can think of.. is to reinstall flash-nonfree-plugin
[06:01] <tilkster> hey guys quick questioun
[06:01] <unfo> needhelpnoob:  what case?  don't tell me, tell everyone.
[06:01] <unfo> tilkster:  don't ask to ask, just ask :)
[06:01] <tilkster> i want to cehck out a source code from an svn directory
[06:01] <tilkster> i have ubuntu server edition
[06:01] <tilkster> no gui
[06:01] <tilkster> what is the apt-get command
[06:01] <tilkster> for svn
[06:01] <unfo> tilkster:  what is the URL?
[06:01] <FloodBot3> tilkster: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:01] <Flannel> tilkster: subversion is the package name
[06:01] <Flannel> tilkster: sudo apt-get install subversion
[06:01] <tilkster> apt-get subversion?
[06:01] <Cpudan80> tilkster: subversion
[06:01] <tilkster> kk
[06:02] <djhash> matthias: sorry.. i meant.. flashplugin-nonfree
[06:02] <tilkster> how do i use it thoug
[06:02] <alex_mayorga1> naenae87, what happens when you plug the card?
[06:02] <naenae87> nothing
[06:02] <Neurologic> Can someone give me an answer about the issue I have with Evolution mail? I can't open my preferences.
[06:02] <naenae87> it doesnt recognize it
[06:02] <VPS|KDE> i would unfo but I gotta go in a few :)  I'm already burning the midnight oil
[06:02] <matthias> djhash: pretty popular head ache than ..., never tought about logging in thr loggfiles for evidence of some kind in /etc/logs/ ...
[06:02] <drumstyk1> hey guys, is there a command to list ethernet connections?
[06:02] <needhelpnoob> ok unfo, im trying to install grub. im trying to find stage1 folder as the tutorial suggests
[06:02] <woody86> irc_skip_motd
[06:02] <Flannel> tilkster: You should have instructions on the projects page, but it'll be something like: svn checkout http://server.net/path/to/svn/
[06:02] <unfo> Neurologic:  please join me in #ubuntu-bugs, and repeat your question there
[06:02] <needhelpnoob> but i get folder not found error
[06:02] <nite_johnboy> Hi - Running new upgraded Ibex over previous Heron - Is there a simpler or quicker way to turn off my computer - As it is now - I use CTRL/ALT/DELETE to Log Out then two more steps to actually shutdown - Any idea's ? ?
[06:02] <Neurologic> unfo, I have -_- You didn't answer.
[06:02] <abortd> !ndis wrapper > me
[06:03] <drunk> if your installing flash to use with konqueror sometimes you have to register the .so file in the preferences matthias djhash
[06:03] <unfo> Neurologic:  oops I will look again.
[06:03] <tilkster> righti  knw the adress
[06:03] <unfo> needhelpnoob:  don't tell me, tell everyone.  All on one line.
[06:03] <tilkster> so its
[06:03] <naenae87> is there a better room then this because no on is helping me
[06:03] <drunk> abortd.. ndiswrapper?
[06:03] <tilkster> svn checkout
[06:03] <tilkster> svn checkout "website"
[06:03] <tilkster> and it will DL the stuff?
[06:03] <alex_mayorga1> naenae87: try to run this in a terminal "lspci | grep etwork"
[06:04] <n8tuser> alex_mayorga1-> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/71213/  this is yours, i would remove all the # from line 5 to line 15 assuming those interfaces are available
[06:04] <needhelpnoob> ok guys. i type this into console: grub> find /usr/lib/grub/x86_64/stage1. i get file not found error. what do i do?
[06:04] <abortd> yeah drunk
[06:04] <djhash> naenae87: !patience
[06:04] <matthias> drunk thanks for the advice but i am using firefox, maybe time to try opera ...
[06:04] <drunk> what's your question
[06:04] <naenae87> ok ill try it
[06:04] <djhash> !patience | naenae87
[06:04] <abortd> !ndiswrapper > me
[06:04] <Flannel> tilkster: Thats a common configuration, you'll be able to get specific instructins from the project itself.
[06:04] <drumstyk1> hey guys, is there a command to list ethernet connections?
[06:04] <naenae87> lol
[06:04] <nite_johnboy> What is fastest - easiest way to turn off computer - Running Intrepid Ibex ? ?
[06:04] <crashatau> drumstyk: ifconfig :)
[06:04] <matthias> djhash:  thanks for your opinions, i will try it, thnaks again, and the movieworks great, thanks to you ...
[06:04] <grendal_prime> ya the releases never resolves and the ip never comes through ither..werid..i found a copy somewere else though thanks guys.
[06:05] <drumstyk1> thanks crashatau
[06:05] <djhash> naenae87: did you check forums... google.. documentation..
[06:05] <alex_mayorga1> n8tuser: do I need to add a wmaster0 too?
[06:05] <n8tuser> alex_mayorga1-> nope
[06:05] <unfo> nite_johnboy:  pull the plug.  But it will wreck your computer.
[06:06] <n8tuser> alex_mayorga1-> after the mods, you just have to type   /etc/init.d/network restart  no need to reboot
[06:06] <nite_johnboy> unfo: funny guy -
[06:06] <Flannel> unfo: Please don't give bad answers, if they are tongue in cheek
[06:06] <drumstyk1> nite_johnboy: can't you just click on your name in the top right and select "shutdown"?
[06:06] <drunk> i've configured my /etc/network/interfaces file Flannel crashatau... used auto eth0 inet static and added an address line with an IP and a subnet line with the subnet mask. ran /etc/init.d/networking restart and when I if config it doesn't list the IP i hardcoded in the interfaces file.  am i missing something?
[06:07] <Flannel> nite_johnboy: `sudo shutdown -h now` is equivalent to a few things, but that's certainly a way to shut it down.
[06:07] <naenae87> i need a website
[06:07] <fryguy> nite_johnboy: if your computer supports acpi and is configured correctly, pressing (not holding) the power button on your computer will bring up a dialog for shutting the machine down safely.  If configured correctly, I believe this is the easiest way to shut down a machine
[06:07] <naenae87> that tells me how to do this
[06:07] <naenae87> i got one last time
[06:07] <faryshta> drumstyk1, ifconfig
[06:07] <naenae87> oh ya ALEX that comand you gave me did nothing
[06:08] <n8tuser> drunk-> look at the interfaces file, the mods you made are still there?
[06:08] <drunk> i've erased them since
[06:08] <alex_mayorga1> n8tuser: does this one looks beter http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/71225/ ?
[06:08] <PUNISHER> Hi all!
[06:08] <n8tuser> drunk-> re-insert them and do same steps
[06:08] <nite_johnboy> drumstykl: I do not see my user name on screen anywhere vsince I upgraded to Ibex.
[06:08] <drumstyk1> thanks faryshta, i am trying to find the "device interface" of my windows mobile phone so i can add it to /interfaces
[06:09] <djhash> naenae87: when you ran that command.. was the usb wifi card plugged in?
[06:09] <unfo> Flannel:  good point.
[06:09] <unfo> nite_johnboy:  press the Shut Down button.  How slow is it?  Is it especially slow on your PC?
[06:09] <drunk> i just leave it blank.. while the verbose start up is going loading network fails.. but i can connect with a systray network manager icon which icons' slightly off color so i don't really mess withit
[06:09] <naenae87> yes
[06:09] <n8tuser> alex_mayorga1-> yeah that looks good, but now you will have both eth0 and wlan0 connected to same router, perhaps comment out one of them
[06:09] <djhash> naenae87: is there an LED on the wifi.. to show that its turned on.. when you plug it in.. or does it even not turn on
[06:10] <nite_johnboy> Flannel: Thanks - Might try that - Since I upgraded to Ibex - Have to use Ctrl+alt+delete to log out then (2) more steps before I actually select to turn off computer - Kind of annoying !
[06:10] <faryshta> Ahh then open nautilus and on go Places->Network.
[06:10] <faryshta> drumstyk1,
[06:10] <drunk> i just leave it blank.. while the verbose start up is going loading network fails.. but i can connect with a systray network manager icon which icons' slightly off color so i don't really mess withit n8tuser
[06:10] <drunk> ok n8.. will edit the file
[06:10] <PUNISHER> men, how I can make up my webcam Ali corp?
[06:11] <PUNISHER> on Bisoncam chipset
[06:11] <n8tuser> drunk-> i am not fond of gui, i dont know what other options is available to be clicked on the gui
[06:11] <naenae87> ya
[06:11] <naenae87> its got a light
[06:11] <drunk> n8tuser, i'm currently using my ethernet connection.. so that would disable my connection if i restart the network with those settings correct?
[06:12] <drunk> nevermind
[06:12] <fryguy> I'm running gnome on a remote X server.  It's running very slowly though.  Someone told me I had to run gnome inside of an X client.  Will this speed up gnome?  I have a picture of the process list (warning, the image is quite large, approximately 4.5mb): http://rattlesnake.ath.cx:81/xclient.png -- If someone can tell me what I'm doing wrong and what x client to run to speed things up it would be appreciated.
[06:12] <n8tuser> drunk-> yeah it will
[06:12] <djhash> naenae87: ok.. type this.. "dmesg | tail"
[06:12] <n8tuser> !who | naenae87
[06:13] <nite_johnboy> fryguy: I have a fairly new rig - latest dual core - 4gb's ram etc. etc. power house - this could be another option. If you read what I posted Flannel - this explains my problem.
[06:13] <PUNISHER> oh my God...
[06:13] <givemeaname> WTB help installing WOTLK on linux ubuntu 8.10
[06:13] <alex_mayorga1> n8tuser, I've commented out eth0 I'm now going to restart, do I remove the cable?
[06:13] <n8tuser> alex_mayorga1-> sure, to ensure eth0 is not acquiring any
[06:14] <virmin> evenin' all :)
[06:14] <alex_mayorga1> OK
[06:14] <alex_mayorga1> BRB
[06:14] <virmin> good work tonight guys! :)
[06:14] <djhash> !pastebin | naenae87 use this to show me what you got
[06:14] <wng-> anyone install the new WoW expansion yet?
[06:14] <givemeaname> wng-, i'm trying now, it's not working
[06:14] <virmin> WoW... is that Wishing of Wankoff?
[06:14] <naenae87> i dont know what pastebin is
[06:14] <wng-> givemeaname: i'm working on it too, where are you at?
[06:14] <tilkster> how do i remove a directory>
[06:15] <tilkster> like delete it?
[06:15] <virmin> gnnnnnnnnnnnnnrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
[06:15] <fryguy> tilkster: rmdir
[06:15] <tilkster> rm?
[06:15] <tilkster> rmdir
[06:15] <FloodBot3> tilkster: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:15] <drunk> havn't seen this before.. "SIOCDELRT: No such process" after network restart, http://pastebin.com/f33504278 my interfaces file and i'm still connected
[06:15] <tilkster> there are thigns in the directory
[06:15] <tilkster> im gettingf an eror directory not empty
[06:15] <tilkster> i want to delete the entire directory and files in it
[06:15]  * virmin looks upon the battle-plans, his status... and says, f**k it! WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!
[06:15] <faryshta> tilkster, you can use rm -rf directory/
[06:15] <fryguy> tilkster: so remove those things. you can also use rm -r to recursively remove the contents of a directory.  it removes everything though, so be careful
[06:16] <faryshta> but I don'r recommend it.
[06:16] <bazhang_> virmin, no cursing here
[06:16] <tilkster> sweet!
[06:16] <tilkster> thanks
[06:16] <faryshta> be careful.
[06:16] <faryshta> if you delete something with this you will never get it back tilkster
[06:16]  * virmin say, oh, hello ,hazhang, didn't see you there darling... I think I'm in trouble,,,,
[06:16] <virmin> RAAWWWWR!!!
[06:16] <fryguy> unless you pay people money
[06:16] <bazhang_> !offtopic | virmin
[06:16] <djhash> naenae87: where you at?
[06:17] <paul68> n8tuser:  you used earlier the dig -x + ip  remember ? how come that we got to see the practicly all the info on that guy and when I do this for me you can't make anything out of that is that in a way a different way of securing things or am I wrong
[06:17] <luke_> dang this is a strict room
[06:17] <lgc> I could use some expert help in setting sshd. Anyone?
[06:17] <fryguy> !ask
[06:18] <lgc> fryguy, you talking to me?
[06:18] <fryguy> yes
[06:18] <n8tuser> paul68 its his external ip i used, and i tried to resolved his ip address,  now if you want to use same, its dependent on a nameserver able to resolve it for you
[06:19] <lgc> fryguy, I have my ssh server running, listening to port 22. But still I'm not able to connect to it.
[06:19] <BigUrsis> What mount options would make a media user / group me. (I.e. I am mounting a cd with sudo mount -t udf -o ro,unhide  /dev/scd0 /media/cdrom and it's user is 503 and default group is dailout (on all files))
[06:19]  * virmin is stuck between the ubuntu channels and global free speech :s
[06:19] <drunk> havn't seen this before.. "SIOCDELRT: No such process" after network restart, http://pastebin.com/f33504278 my interfaces file and i'm still connected n8tuser
[06:19] <greghere> I cant connect to the internet or network with Ubuntu 8.04, I have tried everything. Any help appreciated
[06:19] <virmin> you love me?
[06:19]  * virmin seeks sympathy
[06:19] <virmin> 5
[06:19] <virmin> 4
[06:19] <virmin> 3
[06:19] <virmin> 3
[06:19] <giacomo> could someone help me please? I've " Cannot mix incompatible Qt libraries" on just compiled virtualbox-ose
[06:19] <virmin> 2
[06:19] <virmin> 1
[06:19]  * virmin goes for an all out battle...
[06:19] <drumstyk1> faryshta: do you know how i would find the "device interface" of my phone that is connected via usb?
[06:19] <ferronica> from where i ca download Compiz-fusion?/
[06:19] <drumstyk1> i am supposed to add iface <interface of your device> inet dhcp to my etc/network/interfaces and i am stumped
[06:19]  * virmin RAWRRR!
[06:19]  * virmin bites skulls! :D
[06:19]  * virmin hehehes
[06:19] <virmin> That was fun, no?
[06:19] <mylisto> hey everyone
[06:19] <mylisto> wondering if anyone knows how to get mp3 functions (exporting) working with audacity
[06:19] <mylisto> in pclinux I just had to search for libmp3lame in the packager...
[06:19] <mylisto> but I can't find out how to do it in ubuntu
[06:20] <fryguy> lgc: are you behind a device doing firewall duties or Network address translation? are you sure the daemon is running
[06:20] <abortd> !compiz < ferronica
[06:20] <mylisto> I think I can drag the libmp3lame folder into /usr/lib
[06:20] <virmin> Ooops, forgot I was on the run there!!!
[06:20] <mylisto> but when I try that I get access denied...
[06:20] <n8tuser> drunk-> i dont know what your networking restart script saw and spit out the error..
[06:20] <unfo> virmin:  please keep non-support to #ubuntu-offtopic.
[06:20] <mylisto> How do I switch over to admin?
[06:21] <faryshta> drumstyk1, then on nautilus go /media/
[06:21] <faryshta> or computer:///
[06:21] <drunk> did you look at my interfaces file.. does it look correct?
[06:21] <drunk> n8tuser,
[06:21] <lgc> fryguy, so says the log file. I can also do 'ssh localhost' sucessfully. But when I try it with the IP address, it won't do.
[06:21] <n8tuser> drunk-> thats a script by the way, so you can edit and see what it does step by step
[06:21] <fryguy> lgc: from what machine
[06:21] <After_Math> i Know this isnt a windows channel but when I tried to install windows on a partition, I used windows to delete a partition, and create a new one, then when I click next, it says that the format or something about the new partition is insufficient for windows install and doesnt procede, wtf?
[06:22] <lgc> fryguy, when I do 'ssh IP_of_my_machine', if that's what you mean.
[06:22] <unfo> After_Math:  OT.  to ##windows please.
[06:22] <naenae87> djhash check your private msgs i wrote you
[06:22] <drumstyk1> faryshta: i really appreciate the pointers but nothing new is showing up there :(
[06:22] <unfo> naenae87: djhash: could you please keep it public?
[06:23] <n8tuser> drunk looks okay to me
[06:23] <fryguy> lgc: from where?
[06:23] <paul68> n8tuser: I did use my external ip aswell and the only thing I could see was that I'm at telenet.be but could not see any names and stuff like you got with that guy
[06:23] <djhash> unfo: n
[06:23] <drunk> would i put the host & domain name in that file as well n8tuser??
[06:23] <faryshta> then on nautilus go Places->Media or Places->Computer
[06:24] <givemeaname> anyone having trouble installing the wow expansion?
 You can now speak again. Please ask your question, giving the relevant Pastebin URL.
 I'm seeing it all in slow-motion, and I'm thinking I shouldn't bow down...
[06:24] <virmin>  kill me... and I will be back, oh yes!  will I! :D :D :D :D :D
[06:24] <virmin> * virmin cackles
[06:24] <virmin>  virmin has a minor following in certain circles
[06:24] <FloodBot2> virmin: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
 Let me free :)
[06:24] <virmin> Noo-ooo-ooo!!!!
[06:24] <n8tuser> paul68-> same kind of info was spit out
[06:24] <abortd> how do i switch my update serveR?\
[06:24] <abortd> i set my clock to toronto time now i download from canada
[06:25] <n8tuser> drunk host and domain goes to  /etc/hosts  file
[06:25] <After_Math> when did #wine become invite only?
[06:25] <lgc> fryguy, from wherever I try: from my machine called "x", as in 'ssh user@x' or from a remote machine "y" I'm connected to.
[06:25] <BigUrsis> After_Math→ guessing wow release
[06:25] <Flannel> After_Math: #winehq
[06:25] <fryguy> lgc: are these machines on the same network segment?
[06:25] <virmin> don't strike me down!!!
[06:25] <lgc> fryguy, not at all.
[06:25] <giacomo> could someone help me please? I've " Cannot mix incompatible Qt libraries" on just compiled virtualbox-ose
[06:26] <fryguy> lgc: so then there's likely a firewall or device doing network address translation in the way
[06:26] <n8tuser> paul68-> also i said its dependent on the name server too
[06:26] <unfo> giacomo:  no clue, sorry.  But do you get the same error message on precompiled virtualbox-ose from apt?
[06:26] <lgc> fryguy, I've enabled port 22 on my router.
[06:27] <giacomo> yes unfo
[06:27] <alex_mayorga> n8tuser, didn't help
[06:27] <giacomo> the same for vlc
[06:27] <giacomo> I'm compiling vlc right now
[06:27] <fryguy> lgc: "enabled?" is it forwarded to the correct machine?
[06:27] <n8tuser> alex_mayorga-> what happened?
[06:27] <alex_mayorga> n8tuser, I've now removed everything but lo, still no go
[06:27] <sjovan_> After_Math: it's winehq
[06:27] <unfo> giacomo:  let me verify: you get the error message "Cannot mix incompatible Qt libraries" on precompiled virtualbox-ose from apt????
[06:28] <lgc> fryguy, you got me there.
[06:28] <After_Math> sjovan_, thanks
[06:28] <n8tuser> alex_mayorga-> your the one with broadcom bcm43xx chip right?  i can not assist you on that, i've lost too much hair already..hehe
[06:28] <giacomo> unfo, pvt
[06:28] <unfo> giacomo:  it is better not to PM without asking first.
[06:28] <paul68> n8tuser: ok thanks
[06:28] <unfo> giacomo:  let's keep it in channel.
[06:28] <fryguy> lgc: the router needs to know what to do with those ssh packets when it sees them
[06:28] <giacomo> ok
[06:28] <giacomo> yes, I receive the same message
[06:28] <alex_mayorga> n8tuser, no problems, thanks on trying anyway, that would teach me to go all intel next time :)
[06:28]  * drunk uses a broadcom bcmxx chip set alex_mayorga 
[06:28] <jonna> alex_mayorga: I too am working on a BCM43xx right now, and need assistance.
[06:29] <unfo> giacomo:  odd.  And vbox doesn't start?
[06:29] <n8tuser> paul68-> you're welcome, good luck
[06:29] <jonna> So I'm guessing I just missed all of the broadcom help?
[06:29] <giacomo> no
[06:29] <giacomo> the same for vlc, qtconfig, keepassx
[06:29] <[T]ank> i have an shell script i have built and the last command i have in it is /etc/init.d/gdm restart. It brings gdm down but never comes back up. if i just run that command from terminal it works right... what do i do differently in a shell script to make that happen correctly?
[06:29] <paul68> jonna alex_mayorga  what version of ubuntu are you working on?
[06:29] <lgc> fryguy, can't I suppose the router is doing the correct thing since we are speaking, or is it application-specific?
[06:29] <alex_mayorga> 8.10
[06:30] <givemeaname> i need to copy a file from cd to hdd, is there someone who can tell me how to do it with a terminal via sudo command, or to give my user permissions to do it via click and drag?
[06:30] <n8tuser> alex_mayorga-> me and several others just cant somehow get bcm43xx to work ..thats all, some are able to make it work though
[06:30] <fryguy> lgc: you initiated an outgoing connection to irc.  ssh is an incoming connection to the router, they behave differently
[06:30] <alex_mayorga> how do I reset all my networking configs to a clean state, just in case?
[06:30] <rdw200169_> [T]ank: probably has something to do with the $DISPLAY variable
[06:30] <drunk> i use 8.10.. still not sure how i got my linksys wireless card to work, it connects though
[06:30] <paul68> alex_mayorga: can you check in system admin hardware drivers to see if your card is there?
[06:30] <unfo> giacomo:  that is odd.  What have you tried to resolve the problem so far?  (For quicker response, write "unfo: " at the beginning of each line you write to me.  Otherwise I cannot guarantee any response at all.)
[06:30] <lgc> fryguy, okey, so how do I find out. Ifconfig?
[06:30] <alex_mayorga> n8tuser, is ndiswraper an option for me?
[06:30] <[T]ank> rdw200169_: never messed with that, what do i do different?
[06:30] <fryguy> lgc: sure
[06:31] <alex_mayorga> paul68, it's there and activated
[06:31] <n8tuser> alex_mayorga-> a very good possibility yes, ndiswrapper
[06:31] <rdw200169_> [T]ank: just specify that DISPLAY=:0 in your script, that could help
[06:31] <alex_mayorga> !ndiswrapper
[06:31] <giacomo> unfo, I really need virtualbox please unfo help me in tracking down the problem, it's a week that I'm fighting. I've checked ldd timestamps of the libs
[06:31] <[T]ank> so just a line that says DISPLY=:0
[06:31] <[T]ank> thats it?
[06:31] <giacomo> unfo, I've gdb backtrace too
[06:31] <n8tuser> alex_mayorga-> also try it without  encryption too, just to get it going, then you can add it later
[06:32] <paul68> alex_mayorga: ok and what if you check under hidden wifi etwork and you enter your credentials there what is going to happen?
[06:32] <alex_mayorga> n8tuser, how do I nuke all so I "start clean"?
[06:32] <unfo> giacomo:  do you know how to find the key 3 lines of the backtrace?  can you tell me them?
[06:32] <drunk> giacomo.. theres a way to download virtualbox, the non-OSE edition from the virtualbox website.. download via the .deb file after you remove the OSE version & see if it works
[06:32] <lgc> fryguy, 'inet dirección:192.168.1.67  Difusión:192.168.1.255  Máscara:255.255.255.0', as regards eth1. But that is general info, not ssh-specific.
[06:32] <n8tuser> alex_mayorga-> what you got now is clean enuff to start off fresh
[06:32] <rdw200169_> [T]ank: yeah, set the environment variable in the scriopt
[06:32] <fryguy> lgc: so tell your router to forward port 22 traffic to 192.168.1.67
[06:32] <unfo> drunk:  giacomo is having problems with vlc, qtconfig, and keepassx too.
[06:33] <judgen> quick check. if "sudo sysctl net.ipv4.ip_forward" shows a =1 then forwarding should work?
[06:33] <giacomo> drunk, I'll do that , but before I need to start keepassx to retrieve my passwords
[06:33] <givemeaname> i so shouldn't have installed linux........
[06:33] <rdw200169_> judgen: yes
[06:33] <giacomo> unfo, immediatly, gimme a second
[06:33] <laobing> #ubuntu-cn
[06:33] <alex_mayorga> now is't weird because the nm applet says that my wireless is "device is unmanaged" :(
[06:33] <judgen> rdw200169_: i dont have a firewall, and the dhcp3-server gives the windows computer a ip. Why wont it work?
[06:34] <unfo> tilkster: what are you trying to check out?
[06:34] <lgc> fryguy, let me see if I can find that out...
[06:34] <rdw200169_> judgen: do you have a NAT running...?
[06:34] <giacomo> unfo, this is the vlc backtrace http://pastebin.com/d63e5ea75
[06:34] <rdw200169_> judgen: i.e., you you have a rule in iptables that says...
[06:34] <unfo> onthefence9281: did #winehq solve your problem?  what happened?
[06:34] <unfo> giacomo:  please tell me the key 3 lines here.
[06:34] <fryguy> I'm running gnome on a remote X server.  It's running very slowly though.  Someone told me I had to run gnome inside of an X client.  Will this speed up gnome?  I have a picture of the process list (warning, the image is quite large, approximately 4.5mb): http://rattlesnake.ath.cx:81/xclient.png -- If someone can tell me what I'm doing wrong and what x client to run to speed things up it would be appreciated.
[06:34] <rdw200169_> judgen: iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o wan_interface -j MASQUERADE
[06:35] <giacomo> #3  0xb7998795 in qt_message_output () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4
[06:35] <giacomo> #4  0xb7998872 in qFatal () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4
[06:35] <giacomo> #5  0xb7aa45cc in QObjectPrivate::QObjectPrivate () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4
[06:35] <giacomo> #6  0xb148927e in QDBusAbstractInterfacePrivate (this=0x9ef5508, serv=@0xb239ef08, p=@0xb239ef04, iface=@0xb239eec8, con=@0xb239ef84, isDynamic=false)
[06:35] <FloodBot2> giacomo: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:35] <owen1> i try to send the video to the VGA output. i try this command but i can't see anything on the external monitor -  xrandr --verbose --output VGA --mode 1024x768 --pos 0x0   any idea?
[06:35] <rdw200169_> judgen: if there's no NAT taking place, the router can't translate the forwarded traffic to the internet
[06:35] <unfo> giacomo:  no, not that.  I mean the "Application 'foo' crashed with signal SIGSEGV at bar.c line 1234", plus the line of code in question.
[06:36] <rdw200169_> judgen: because iptables also performs the double-duty of NAT translation, among other things
[06:36] <drunk> i've seen that on mine before.. you can try what i tried.. edit your /etc/networking/interfaces file and put a # before every line to blank it out.. i have the network-manager packages installed.. restart your network and see if it works
[06:36] <alex_mayorga> for other with bcm43xx https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/b43
[06:36] <rdw200169_> judgen: has to do with the conntrack related stuff...
[06:36] <paul68> rdw200169_: Hi how are you can you check out this script please and tell me what you think of it also have a question about line 135 and 136 don't I need to modify the popname into the port number? http://paste.ubuntu.com/71232/
[06:36] <n8tuser> fryguy-> look into using NXclient or FreeNx  to get amazing speed.. i dont have the details, google for it please
[06:36] <rdw200169_> paul68: ah, welcome back
[06:36] <giacomo> unfo, do you mean recompiling the application with the debugging symbols?
[06:36] <alex_mayorga> drunk: thanks, will try that
[06:37] <paul68> rdw200169_: made some adaptions hope you aprove with this
[06:37] <drunk> then again there is something wrong with my network at the moment, I can't get static IP's to stick to my ethernet card alex_mayorga
[06:37] <fryguy> n8tuser: nxclient is a replacement X server.  I already have my X server configured.  Somebody told me I need to run gnome inside of an X client, how do I do that?
[06:37] <unfo> giacomo: no.  Use what you have now.  I mean run it, wait for it to crash, then tell me the "Application 'foo' crashed with signal SIGSEGV" line, plus the line after that, from gdb.
[06:37] <judgen> rdw200169_: i think i have located the problem with your help. I had specified the wrong interface in rc.local
[06:37] <judgen> thanks
[06:38] <aeosynth> Is there an easy way to get rid of the gnome-panel other than uninstalling it in synaptic?
[06:38] <fryguy> right click on it and remove it
[06:38] <rdw200169_> paul68: why have lines 6 and 7?
[06:38] <unfo> giacomo:  I warn you that I must go and get back to coding soon.
[06:38] <aeosynth> doesn't work when there's only one left
[06:38] <n8tuser> fryguy-> nope, it does not replace X server, it augments it..read up on it..
[06:39] <stopgo> does anyone have experience setting up a mail server?  i'm trying to understand what different functions dovecot and postfix serve.
[06:39] <fryguy> n8tuser: I have, and i've read up on xpra, xmove, and xnest.  None of them are applicable for my situation
[06:39] <unfo> stopgo:  come join me in #ubuntu-server
[06:39] <paul68> rdw200169_: oeps my bad should be eth0 and eth1
[06:39] <rdw200169_> paul68: ;)
[06:39] <n8tuser> fryguy-> oh well, tuff luck
[06:39] <stopgo> ok unfo
[06:39] <metrick> How do i create a partition and copy files to it?
[06:39] <metrick> on ubuntu 8.10
[06:40] <ropetin> metrick: a partition on what?
[06:40] <paul68> rdw200169_: was replacing all my eth0 and eth1 didn't see that this was also replaced
[06:40] <fryguy> n8tuser: is there an X client that gnome runs inside of? or was I misinformed and gnome itself is an xclient?
[06:40] <abortd> how do i change my update server?
[06:40] <metrick> My hdd
[06:40] <metrick> or secondary Hdd
[06:40] <loquitus_of_borg> Anybody know a solution to this sound problem I am having? Basically, my sound was fine in Hardy. With Intrepid, sound is all screwy. ALSA does not seem to work too well, and even with OSS turned on (which I did not have to use before), a lot of my video files cannot play audio. When I try, I get static
[06:41] <ropetin> metrick: create a partition with gparted
[06:41] <alex_mayorga> drunk: so can I nuke  /etc/network/interfaces entirely, or is that too much?
[06:41] <n8tuser> fryguy->not to sure
[06:41] <n8tuser> fryguy->not too* sure
[06:41] <metrick> How would i then copy files to it?
[06:41] <drunk> try it and see if it works.. you may have to put it back the way it was
[06:41] <giacomo_> unfo, sorry I'm back
[06:41] <givemeaname> anyone know how to install the WOTLK xpac?
[06:41] <rdw200169_> paul68: in 135 and 136, you can either specify those ports in environment variables, or use the names from /etc/services
[06:41] <judgen> rdw200169_: Dang, no go.
[06:41] <giacomo_> unfo, but with no debugging symbols you wont have the "line after that"
[06:41] <unfo> giacomo_: that is ok.
[06:41] <aeosynth> since I'm using a dock (AWN) I don't want or need the gnome panel, any easy way to get rid of it? Right-click into 'remove panel' doesn't work, nor does killing it from session options (since 8.10 doesn't have session options)
[06:41] <metrick> ropetin: or do you know of a guide?
[06:42] <ropetin> metrick: Once the partition is created, put a file system on it, then copy like normal
[06:42] <ropetin> metrick: I'll look for one...
[06:42] <metrick> ropetin:Thank you =]
[06:42] <gluonman> Anyone familiar with setting up a synergy server? I'm stuck on a step.
[06:42] <paul68> rdw200169_: ok is it usefull to seperate the tcp and udp variables or is it better to keep them together?
[06:42] <alex_mayorga> drunk: what's the package name for nm-applet?
[06:43] <ropetin> metrick: I won't vouch for this 100%, but it looks OK...
[06:43] <ropetin> metrick: http://www.smorgasbord.net/how-to-install-second-hard-drive-in-ubuntu-linux/
[06:43] <rdw200169_> paul68: hmm... i prefer separating them
[06:43] <unfo> gluonman:  I am not, but try #synergy.  Write your whole question on one long long line then wait eight hours.  You might get a response, might not.  Else try the Synergy mailing list.
[06:43] <metrick> ropetin: cool thanks :D
[06:43] <givemeaname> how do you become a root user without using the 'sudo'command (aka not in a terminal)
[06:43] <paul68> rdw200169_: like I do right now correct
[06:44] <gluonman> unfo, okay
[06:44] <drunk> alex_mayorga, i think it's part of the network-manager packages
[06:44] <giacomo_> unfo, http://pastebin.com/d613be81f
[06:44] <fryguy> givemeaname: if you need it graphically, gksudo or gksu should work, gksudo seems to be preferred
[06:44] <unfo> giacomo_: i look
[06:44] <iamelite> Hello, i was wondering if anyone knows the most effective way to run windows programs on ubuntu. If anyone has clever advice i am willing to listen and experiment.
[06:44] <unfo> giacomo_:  what qt libraries have you ever installed?
[06:44] <fryguy> iamelite: install windows in a virtual machine or use wine are the 2 primary choices
[06:45] <rdw200169_> paul68: lines 140-159, the rest of the FORWARD table, are pointless
[06:45] <unfo> iamelite: you forgot to tell us which programs :)
[06:45] <rdw200169_> paul68: i mean 140-168
[06:45] <lgc> fryguy, I see no option on the router referring to port 22.
[06:45] <chmac> Anyone else notice a slight delay when alt-tabbing between windows in intrepid?
[06:45] <Appl3Kork> how do you open a tar.bz2 file?
[06:45] <iamelite> fryguy, binary translation is slow. Wine is much faster, but lacks files and driver compatability.
[06:45] <unfo> Appl3Kork: what is the filename?
[06:45] <nabcore> tar xfvj file.tar.bz2
[06:45] <givemeaname> fryguy, so you mean go to a terminal and type that?
[06:45] <Appl3Kork> zlib-1.2.3.tar.bz2
[06:45] <Ayabara> I get this error when I try to connect to work with vpnc "resolvconf: Error: /etc/resolv.conf must be a symlink"
[06:45] <rdw200169_> paul68: because the first accept, entry 2 in the FORWARD table, line 131, kills all the accepted traffic
[06:45] <fryguy> imaginativeone: no one mentioned binary translation
[06:46] <gluonman> unfo, #synergy is freaking empty.
[06:46] <fryguy> givemeaname: or run it from the alt-f2 prompt, whatever
[06:46] <unfo> giacomo_: Do a Google search for: ubuntu "Cannot mix incompatible Qt libraries"
[06:46] <rdw200169_> paul68: all the allowed users' traffic will never get past line 131
[06:46] <giacomo_> unfo, this is what I have installed http://pastebin.com/m7480be75
[06:46] <unfo> giacomo_: Click the first hit.  Then click the link to the bug.  Is that the precise bug you have?
[06:46] <rdw200169_> paul68: and line 138 kills the rest of the non-allowed traffic
[06:46] <rdw200169_> paul68: so there's nothing left to filter
[06:46] <Appl3Kork> zlib-1.2.3.tar.bz2 is the filename
[06:46] <giacomo_> unfo, I've passed page by page a lot of times but no solution
[06:46] <givemeaname> fryguy,  thank you for the lead, i'll see what i can do with it (wish me luck)
[06:46] <fryguy> iamelite: do you have a specific windows program you are having problems running?
[06:47] <unfo> gluonman:  you are annoying the people there.  state your entire question on one long long line then wait 8 hours.  :)
[06:47] <unfo> giacomo_: repeat: Do a Google search for: ubuntu "Cannot mix incompatible Qt libraries". Click the first hit.  Then click the link to the bug.  Is that the precise bug you have?
[06:47] <rdw200169_> paul68: kill line 122
[06:47] <gluonman> unfo, alright. Though it is sometimes hard to not be annoying when I've already asked the question I think 8 times over the last 2 hours.
[06:47] <Appl3Kork> I'm just trying to install the rpm package from a tar.gz that I extracted, but I can't seem to figure that out either..
[06:47] <giacomo_> unfo, I don't think so, they are tolking about misplaced libraries, but mines are in the correct position
[06:47] <iamelite> fryguy, with my novice eye i am trying to get webcam integrated into chat programs. Also certain chat programs do not work, i would guess to say they are virtual basic.
[06:48] <unfo> gluonman:  i know, it's hard :)  also email the mailing list.
[06:48] <givemeaname> fryguy, what about for copying stuff from one folder to the next?
[06:48] <unfo> giacomo_: hmmmm
[06:48] <{^KinG^}> alx@alx-b0x:~$ mp4ize Series/Dr\ House/4ta\ Temporada/HMD\ 4x10\ It\'s\ A\ Wonderful\ Lie.avi
[06:48] <{^KinG^}> sh: Syntax error: Unterminated quoted string
[06:48] <{^KinG^}> Couldn't figure out aspect ratio.
[06:48] <{^KinG^}> any can help me ? why dont work mp4ize
[06:48] <balle_> hey i have a problem with a folder, it says that only root is the owner, how do i change that to me?
[06:48] <fryguy> givemeaname: doing it from the command line is fastest.  if you insist on using a gui, 'sudo nautilus' should give you what you need
[06:48] <Appl3Kork> so no one knows I guess...
[06:48] <gluonman> unfo, thanks.
[06:48] <balle_> hey i have a problem with a folder, it says that only root is the owner, and only root can put stuff in and change it and stuff.. how do i change that to me?
[06:49] <unfo> Appl3Kork: you must ping me when you respond, otherwise i will not see your reponse in this sea of text.
[06:49] <unfo> Appl3Kork: why do you need zlib?
[06:49] <giacomo_> unfo, I can post a ldd if you want
[06:49] <givemeaname> fryguy, if thats the case, then how do you copy an installer.exe to a folder using the terminal?
[06:49] <{^KinG^}> balle_ man chown
[06:49] <rdw200169_> paul68: on line 168, kill all the subnet declarations, keep it simple, only specify output device, let the other tables restrict and filter traffic, that's not the job of the NAT table
[06:49] <fryguy> {^KinG^}: remove the quote from the filename before giving it to mp4ize
[06:49] <unfo> giacomo_: ok.  have you ever installed qt yourself?
[06:49] <giacomo_> unfo, to check that the libraries are there
[06:49] <paul68> rdw200169_: in a way I was doing a bit of overkill on lines 140 til 168 ;-)
[06:49] <fryguy> givemeaname: the cp command
[06:49] <Appl3Kork> unfo: to do ./configure for the rpm-4.4.2.3
[06:49] <balle_> king: just chown and then the directory?
[06:49] <drunk> balle_, "sudo chown balle_:balle_ /home/folder"
[06:50] <unfo> Appl3Kork: why do you want rpm-4.4.2.3?  cc: mindrape
[06:50] <paul68> rdw200169_: I deleted everything from 140-168
[06:50] <rdw200169_> paul68: $IPTABLES -t nat -A POSTROUTING -i $LAN -o $WAN -j MASQUERADE
[06:50] <judgen> damn nat, i cant get it to work properly
[06:50] <balle_> drunk: thx i'll try it out
[06:50] <saintmike> can someone help me with the ubuntu 8.04 server edition installation step failed?
[06:50] <{^KinG^}> fryguy how i understan d that
[06:50] <Appl3Kork> cause I have my drivers that are rpm to install
[06:50] <mindrape> unfo - stop annoying people.
[06:50] <rdw200169_> judgen: see my note to paul68
[06:50] <unfo> saintmike: see #ubuntu-server
[06:50] <giacomo_> unfo, in the meanwhile I'm compiling vlc with the debugging symbols, but I this it's useless because it's not a "crash"
[06:50] <unfo> mindrape: reread the question :)
[06:50] <fryguy> {^KinG^}: use mv to rename the file
[06:50] <Appl3Kork> unfo: and I can't connect to the internet on the laptop
[06:50] <iamelite> fryguy, pending I use a windows virtualization is there any tips you can offer to improve the performance, in theoretical or otherwise?
[06:50] <saintmike> yes sir...
[06:50] <Appl3Kork> unfo: the network adapters didn't come installed...
[06:51] <unfo> Appl3Kork: what driver?
[06:51] <xTheGoat121x> Evening... I have an odd question.  I have a partition that is shared between Windoze and Ubuntu... it's in need to defragmentation, but I'm curious if degragging in Windows would have an effect on the partition in Linux, or vice versa... (it's a FAT32 partition)
[06:51] <Appl3Kork> a network driver
[06:51] <givemeaname> this sure doesn't make me like linux too much
[06:51] <unfo> xTheGoat121x: do not bother defragging.  It is a waste of time.
[06:51] <mindrape> unfo - so he can install rpm packages. It's a legitimate question.  Don't question people on why they want help.
[06:51] <Appl3Kork> one for wireless the other for ethernet
[06:51] <givemeaname> either that or wow.....
[06:51] <mindrape> They are here for help.  Not to be pestered.
[06:51] <rdw200169_> paul68: you can keep those statements, just put them before the final DROP and ACCEPT lines for the appropriate subnet groups
[06:51] <fryguy> iamelite: get a processor that supports native virtualization helps.  Or find a native chat application that does what you need
[06:51] <unfo> Appl3Kork:  which wireless?  which ethernet?
[06:51] <xTheGoat121x> unfo... seriously
[06:51] <drunk> Appl3Kork, you can try to use ndiswrapper, i did but i don't think it worked.. it showed the windows dirvers installed with the device active, but it still wouldn't connect
[06:51] <unfo> giacomo_: yes it is useless.
[06:51] <judgen> rdw200169_:  i missed the first part of that while rebooting...
[06:51] <rdw200169_> paul68: because, keep in mind, iptables goes through the tables from entry 0 to the last entry
[06:51] <giacomo_> unfo, I think it's something related to libraries link
[06:51] <unfo> giacomo_: you installed qt yourself to check that the libraries are there?
[06:52] <Appl3Kork> drunk: well these are the linux drivers
[06:52] <fryguy> I'm running gnome on a remote X server.  It's running very slowly though.  Someone told me I had to run gnome inside of an X client.  Will this speed up gnome?  I have a picture of the process list (warning, the image is quite large, approximately 4.5mb): http://rattlesnake.ath.cx:81/xclient.png -- If someone can tell me what I'm doing wrong and what x client to run to speed things up it would be appreciated.
[06:52] <rdw200169_> judgen: sudo iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -i $LAN -o $WAN -j MASQUERADE
[06:52] <unfo> Appl3Kork:  those are the Fedora Linux drivers.  You are on Ubuntu Linux.
[06:52] <rdw200169_> judgen: $LAN is your LAN interface, and $WAN accordingly
[06:52] <Appl3Kork> what are fedora drivers?
[06:52] <paul68> rdw200169_: I put the new masquerade line under the first masquerade right
[06:52] <giacomo_> unfo, I've installed qt from ubuntu packages (up-to-date intrepid)
[06:52] <saintmike> i have tried using iso and cd installers for ubuntu 8.04 server edition and still has the same error...after not installing any software intaskel...
[06:52] <unfo> xthegoat121x: yes, seriously.
[06:52] <rdw200169_> paul68: that's why it used to be called ipchains...
[06:52] <faryshta> mindrape, I am back I think it is a hardware issue, didn't wished to boot from liveCD until I beat the computer.
[06:53] <shadowwulf> is there a command i can run at the bash prompt to upgrade and or fix broken packages if my system wont boot ?
[06:53] <rdw200169_> paul68: just replace it
[06:53] <faryshta> Now I am burning a DVD.
[06:53] <unfo> giacomo_: what is the command you used to install it?  Also, are you using hardy, intrepid, or another ubuntu?
[06:53] <giacomo_> unfo, I've removed with purge all the qt world before
[06:53] <xTheGoat121x> unfo, even on a shared partition?  Cuz it's always had an effect in Windows for me.
[06:53] <Appl3Kork> when I downloaded the linux drivers from the manufacturers website, it didn't say that it was just for fedora
[06:53] <unfo> xTheGoat121x: even then.
[06:53] <rdw200169_> paul68: you only need one NAT declaration, and it should be simple, unless you have more than one internet connection of course, but that's not the case here
[06:53] <fryguy> shadowwulf: if it's a broken package, try "sudo apt-get update" then "sudo apt-get upgrade"
[06:53] <Appl3Kork> in fact it didn't say that at all
[06:53] <giacomo_> unfo, as I said, intrepid ubuntu 8.10 up-to-date, no pinned packages
[06:53] <xTheGoat121x> unfo, and I know that it has no effect in Linux
[06:53] <drunk> shadowwulf, sudo apt-get install --fix-missing
[06:53] <giacomo_> unfo, no backports etc
[06:53] <saintmike> anyone has any idea?
[06:53] <balle_> drunk: balle@balle-laptop:~$ chown balle /usr/lib/eclipse
[06:53] <balle_> chown: changing ownership of `/usr/lib/eclipse': Operation not permitted
[06:53] <rdw200169_> paul68: iptables does not intend to filter in the NAT tables
[06:53] <dubbyz> hey anyone im running ubiquity and was wondering how i could obtain root on a block device
[06:54] <unfo> fryguy: drunk: please try harder to figure out what is wrong with shadowwulf's PC before making suggestions :)
[06:54] <judgen> iptables v1.3.8: Can't use -i with POSTROUTING rdw200169_
[06:54] <fryguy> unfo: lol, are you serious?
[06:54] <unfo> fryguy: yes
[06:54] <bdheeman> hi
[06:54] <unfo> hi
[06:54] <paul68> rdw200169_: ok this is the new version http://paste.ubuntu.com/71236/
[06:54] <Flannel> xTheGoat121x: Defragging isn't a waste of time.  And, yes, if your partition your ubuntu is on is heavily fragmented, that will slow down your wubi install (Don't ask me by how much)
[06:54] <unfo> giacomo_: when did your Qt problems start?
[06:54] <rdw200169_> judgen: then don't use that, it's not 100% necessary
[06:54] <drunk> shadowwulf, "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install --fix-missing" not sure how to enter the password though, perhaps add that to your /etc/rc.local file
[06:54] <giacomo_> unfo, when I dist-upgraded to intrepid
[06:55] <rdw200169_> judgen:  sudo iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o $WAN -j MASQUERADE
[06:55] <saintmike> anyone tried installing ubuntu 8.04 server edition?
[06:55] <unfo> giacomo_: hmmm, you should have said that.
[06:55] <rdw200169_> saintmike: yeah
[06:55] <unfo> giacomo_: ok please repeat the question to everyone in #ubuntu+1
[06:55] <giacomo_> unfo, not ALL the qt applications are not working, some of them, like yakuake for example, are working correctly
[06:55] <xTheGoat121x> Flannel, this isn't a Wubi install.  I dual boot, but use one partition that I share between Windows and Ubuntu as a central location for storing files
[06:55] <Flannel> giacomo_, unfo: Intrepid is in #ubuntu, it's been released.  #ubuntu+1 is for Jaunty
[06:56] <Kengine> how do I get the horizontal view in open office word, not I have vertical view, i want to have a document so I can edit it seeing vertically
[06:56] <bdheeman> install dies in between, somewhere while copying files, checked the install cd/disk which is ok
[06:56] <unfo> Flannel: giacomo_: oops
[06:56] <shadowwulf> ok im getting a bunch of xserver-xorg-video-tga -nv -nsc etc. depends on xserver-xorg-core
[06:56] <dubbyz> anyone know if i could use ubiquity to edit files on my hard drive?
[06:56] <saintmike> rdw200169:i have a strange problem installing ubuntu server sir can you help?
[06:56] <unfo> giacomo_: which work?  which don't?
[06:56] <rdw200169_> paul68: INT_NET=10.20.2.22... wrong, INT_NET=10.20.2.0/24... correct
[06:56] <giacomo_> Flannel, my problem is in intrepid, not jaunty
[06:56] <shadowwulf> and then E: unmet dependencies
[06:56] <rdw200169_> saintmike: shoot
[06:56] <shadowwulf> try using -f
[06:56] <bdheeman> and there is no log where i may look in to
[06:56] <Flannel> giacomo_: I know, you're in the right channel.
[06:56] <rdw200169_> saintmike: just make sure you say my sn with the _ so i see it bolded...
[06:57] <paul68> rdw200169_: corrected
[06:57] <ditch64> i have a quick question, my /boot/grub/menu.list file is empty and i need to back it up so i can install windows and then restore grub, buut if its empty.... what do i do??
[06:57] <rdw200169_> paul68: kill line 37
[06:57] <judgen> rdw200169_: im really appriciative about your help, but i still cant get it to work.
[06:57] <rdw200169_> paul68: the newline thing i mentioned won't work
[06:57] <rdw200169_> paul68: with the emtpy line
[06:57] <dubbyz> anyone know if i could run ubuntu live cd to edit files on my hard drive?
[06:57] <saintmike> rdw200169 : i tried installing through a cd and an iso but still says the same installation step failed...
[06:58] <drunk> what step saintmike
[06:58] <bdheeman> can i install intrepid in an extended partition?
[06:58] <rdw200169_> judgen: can you paste the output of iptables-save > file?
[06:58] <MTecknology> dubbyz: what was your question?
[06:58] <giacomo_> unfo, as far as I know, yakuake and stellarium are working, vlc keepassx virtualbox qtconfig not
[06:58] <drunk> bdheeman, i don't think so
[06:58] <rdw200169_> judgen: or just iptables-save
[06:58] <MTecknology> bdheeman: yes - but /boot can't be
[06:58] <paul68> rdw200169_: I keep the \ but loose the blank line did that for all the others to
[06:58] <giacomo_> unfo, if you want me to try one just ask
[06:58] <drunk> good to know MTecknology
[06:58] <rdw200169_> saintmike: yah, what step
[06:58] <dubbyz> MTecknology: I am running ubuntu live cd, and was wondering if i could use it as a way to edit root files on a hard drive
[06:58] <MTecknology> bdheeman: /boot needs to be on a primary partition in order to boot off of an extended
[06:59] <saintmike> rdw200169 : i usually get stuck installing the software...it says only the base system is installed....
[06:59] <rdw200169_> paul68: ;)
[06:59] <bdheeman> i see, that's why install script dies
[06:59] <unfo> giacomo_: why are some working and some not?
[06:59] <MTecknology> dubbyz: ya, just mount the partition and edit away - careful what you're doing though
[06:59] <rdw200169_> saintmike: does it get onto the internet? i.e. do you set up networking?
[06:59] <judgen> rdw200169_: where do i find it?
[06:59] <paul68> rdw200169_: with a good teacher I'm a quick learner thought I was pretty clever with the limited and access variable ;-)
[07:00] <saintmike> rdw200169 : not yet...
[07:00] <ditch64> i have a quick question, my /boot/grub/menu.list file is empty and i need to back it up so i can install windows and then restore grub, buut if its empty.... what do i do??
[07:00] <giacomo_> unfo, nice question, I suppose it depends to what kind of library it uses
[07:00] <drunk> dubbyz, "sudo fdisk -l" to figure out the correct file /dev/sda partition.. then "sudo mount /dev/sda /mnt" and the files will be in the /mnt folder
[07:00] <rdw200169_> judgen: it's a command
[07:00] <saintmike> rdw200169 : our instructor asked us not to configure the network yet.....
[07:00] <giacomo_> unfo, I think qt3 is working qt4 not
[07:00] <rdw200169_> judgen: part of iptables
[07:00] <giacomo_> unfo, but I'm not sure about this
[07:00] <unfo> giacomo_: check, then tell me.
[07:01] <mindrape> giacomo_: if you'd like help /msg me... unfo will just confuse you and lead you down random paths of google links he finds that he thinks are relevant.
[07:01] <rdw200169_> paul68: seems to work to your advantage
[07:01] <bdheeman> but the arch and debian are working fine from extended partition, only fedora is in a primary one
[07:01] <saintmike> rdw200169_: our instructor said it maybe a hardware failure....
[07:01] <judgen> rdw200169_: seems im forwarding wrong stuff... how do i remove the wrongful entries.
[07:01] <shadowwulf> how do i fix 'could not resolve' issues ?
[07:01] <saintmike> rdw200169_ : or media...but i downloaded a new one...it still says the same....
[07:02] <unfo> giacomo_: if you do move to pm, please tell me so I will know the issue is on hold.
[07:02] <rdw200169_> saintmike: that's certainly possible, are you aware ubuntu keeps a logfile of the install?
[07:02] <saintmike> yes....
[07:02] <MTecknology> ditch64: I think you can boot to a live cd and copy the menu.list file from the live session and also copy that to your system
[07:02] <paul68> rdw200169_: do I need to specify anything else to make it all work or is this how you would do it the way we discussed it earlier this week?
[07:02] <m__> hello all
[07:02] <shadowwulf> i am getting http errors .. and could not resolve
[07:02] <bdheeman> rdw200169_: plz let me where is the log file
[07:02] <saintmike> rdw200169_ : yes...but i could not finish any installation due to this err...
[07:03] <rdw200169_> paul68: you dont' really need to specify anything else for it to work the way you want, you could insert some more logging lines for debugging purposes
[07:03] <dubbyz> drunk: nope, sudo vi file  == permission denied
[07:03] <saintmike> rdw200169_ : btw, im using vmware 5.5 now...
[07:03] <drunk> nope.. don't vi anything
[07:03] <saintmike> rdw200169_ : does it matter?
[07:03] <rdw200169_> paul68: i prefer a light touch when it comes to setting up iptables, you could follow the syslog to find stuff you want to stop
[07:03] <MTecknology> shadowwulf: what website are you looking at?
[07:03] <unfo> MTecknology: shadowwulf: this was previously discussed with fryguy and drunk :)
[07:03] <rdw200169_> saintmike: perhaps, i always have problems with the kernel installation on vmware, i have to install the generic kernel for it to reboot
[07:04] <unfo> shadowwulf: please ping people when replying to them.  Do it like this:  "drunk: "
[07:04] <fryguy> what?
[07:04] <rdw200169_> saintmike: also, during install, you can try to switch vty's
[07:04] <paul68> rdw200169_: or do I need to add for the restricted ips the 80 port for allowing them to access the internet
[07:04] <saintmike> rdw200169_ : so what do you suggest i should do?
[07:04] <paul68> rdw200169_: define light touch?
[07:04] <fryguy> unfo: why are you saying my name
[07:04] <NicEXE> I have just connected a serial mouse to my PC what should I do in order to work? (only the ps2 mouse works currently)
[07:04] <judgen> saintmike: the kernel modules has to be regenerated for that particular versoin. But i think you get a free upgrade to the 6.* version where all that is fixed.
[07:04] <ditch64> MTecknology: ya but everything works fine, but the file is still empty
[07:04] <ditch64> MTecknology: on both my machines
[07:04] <drunk> dubbyz, "sudo fdisk -l" lists all your partitions.. the files you want are one one of those partitions.. "mount /dev/sda /media" will mount the particular partition in the /media folder.. then use your file manager to navigate to your files
[07:05] <rdw200169_> saintmike: well, for the best troubleshooting, you should install via ssh, and use that to monitor the installation from the syslog...
[07:05] <shadowwulf> drunk,  i am getting a cant resolve http error
[07:05] <rdw200169_> saintmike: but you have to rebuild the cd for that
[07:05] <metrick> when i try to mount a second hard drive in the terminal it says i need to be a root user, why is that?
[07:05] <rdw200169_> saintmike: check this out: greamin.com/server/server_guide.html for how to do that...
[07:05] <unfo> shadowwulf:  in your case, you want to ping both drunk and fryguy, since they both told you suggestions on how to resolve your problem.  :)
[07:05] <saintmike> rdw200169_ :so where can i get that?
[07:05] <bdheeman> gota - ubiquity: Fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on X server :0.0. in the install debug/log
[07:06] <rdw200169_> saintmike: haha beat you to the punch..
[07:06] <shadowwulf> unfo, so how would i do that ?
[07:06] <MTecknology> ditch64: I'm not sure. I think there's more than one way that grub saves the boot options. I'm not really sure though, sorry...
[07:06] <dubbyz> drunk i did all that, i mounted /dev/sda1 (the hard drive with linux root) I can view all files, actually my problem is that I am unable to write to any of them, even as root, so lets say i wish to sudo gedit /etc/sudoers
[07:06] <unfo> gluonman: do tell them #synergy your question also.  :)
[07:06] <shadowwulf> unfo,  type it twice ?
[07:06] <dubbyz> it will open with [read-only]
[07:06] <rdw200169_> paul68: if you make a firewall too restrictive, you always wonder why you can't do something
[07:06] <dubbyz> so i think its a mount option
[07:06] <MTecknology> dubbyz: you mounted read only
[07:06] <chmac> Is it possible to use boolean and searches on the ubuntu forum?
[07:06] <unfo> shadowwulf:  you say "drunk, fryguy, blah blah blah"
[07:06] <saintmike> rdw200169_: thanx...
[07:06] <dubbyz> but in mount -o rw
[07:06] <dubbyz> i did mount /dev/sda1 /mnt -o rw
[07:06] <fryguy> unfo: why do you keep saying my name
[07:06] <shadowwulf> drunk, fryguy  i am getting a unable to resolve http error
[07:06] <drunk> dubbyz, perhaps try "sudo chown dubbyz:dubbyz /media/folder"
[07:06] <rdw200169_> paul68: on the other hand, instead of blocking something, log it, to make sure the firewall is catching it in the right place, you can use something like, tail -f /var/log/syslog to watch what the firewall is doing
[07:07] <mmap> ugh
[07:07] <chmac> Ok, got a whole page on it, should have searched before asking :)
[07:07] <bazhang> unfo, please stop
[07:07] <unfo> fryguy: i was telling shadowwulf to ping you re. the unbootable PC.
[07:07] <gaara> somebody help
[07:07] <unfo> bazhang: ok
[07:07] <ditch64> MTecknology: k thanks
[07:07] <gluonman> unfo, mindrape is currently helping me. If we can't figure it out, I'll go back to #synergy. Thanks, though.
[07:07] <gaara> Updating database of manual pages ...
[07:07] <rdw200169_> paul68: particularly if you have a bunch of interesting LOG entries, the syslog will tell you everything you want to know about the logged packet, source ip, dest ip, port, etc...
[07:07] <mmap> haha, mindrape is a fag
[07:07] <gaara> its in that status forever
[07:07] <dubbyz> hmm
[07:07] <fryguy> unfo: why? you don't approve of the way I helped him, so why are you pointing him at me?
[07:07] <bdheeman> Saw signal 11.  Server aborting.
[07:07] <bdheeman> Window manager warning: Fatal IO error 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) on display ':0'.
[07:07] <paul68> rdw200169_: understood so at this point it is to restrictive even for the full access users, where would you put these loggings in the iptables
[07:07] <shadowkill> evening all
[07:08] <bdheeman> what's wrong
[07:08] <unfo> fryguy: i think you should have inquired more into why the PC wasn't booting Xorg before suggesting a command to type.
[07:08] <rdw200169_> saintmike: by light touch, i mean, if i think i want to block something, i start logging it first, then block later, knowing i won't block something i don't want to, and so on
[07:08] <drunk> when does it say that bdheeman?
[07:08] <unfo> fryguy: but now you are the supporter
[07:08] <MTecknology> Can somebody tell ditch64 if there's any other way to store the boot list in grub other than the default menu.list file? I can't do the research atm.
[07:08] <fryguy> unfo: no i'm not
[07:08] <rdw200169_> paul68: it's fine for the full access users, right now they have full access based on line 131
[07:08] <gaara> $ sudo dpkg --configure -a gives              Setting up man-db (2.5.2-2) ...
[07:08] <gaara> Updating database of manual pages ...
[07:08] <gaara> someone plz help...
[07:09] <unfo> fryguy: by answering shadowwulf's question, you are taking on shadowwulf's support case.
[07:09] <gaara> its been updating forever
[07:09] <gaara> and ever
[07:09] <bdheeman> drunk: while running install script
[07:09] <FloodBot2> gaara: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:09] <timreichhart> does anybody got a rs232 external modem 56k for sell
[07:09] <bazhang> unfo, fryguy chat elsewhere please
[07:09] <drunk> MTecknology, ditch64, perhaps save the list below the **other operating systems** line in the menu.lst file??
[07:09] <paul68> rdw200169_: 131 old version I presume?
[07:09] <rdw200169_> FloodBot is such a jerk, sometimes we slip when we type really fast!
[07:09] <MTecknology> drunk: He said that everyting boots fine, but that file is empty
[07:10] <Ohmu> How can I stop my mic feeding into the headphone out?
[07:10] <bdheeman> drunk, it interrupted/crashed the install and restarted gdm
[07:10] <rdw200169_> paul68: new one
[07:10] <drunk> perhaps the file being used is on a different boot sector or whatever?
[07:10] <timreichhart> does anybody got a rs232 external modem 56k for sell or could somebody tell me what be the best modem to use for fax server
[07:10] <drunk> stored on his windows partition?
[07:10] <rdw200169_> paul68: anyone from the accepted network is getting stopped and accepted there, and never sees the rest of the table
[07:10] <metrick> every time i try to mount my second hdd it says only root can do that, how can i mount this second hard drive
[07:10] <metrick> ?
[07:10] <drunk> stored on his windows partition? MTecknology
[07:11] <MTecknology> drunk: no idea. I'm too tired to keep in here though. I'm useless
[07:11] <paul68> rdw200169_: sorry but shouldn't that be line 126
[07:11] <saintmike> rdw200169_: sir i went to the site you told me....is there any other posible solution to my issue?hehehehhe
[07:11] <drunk> metrick, use the sudo command
[07:11] <paul68> rdw200169_: otherwhise I'm in the limited section
[07:11]  * bdheeman /var/log/installer/dm has (EE) config/hal: NewInputDeviceRequest failed
[07:11] <drunk> what else are you doing for 5 minutes MTecknology
[07:11] <timreichhart> does anybody got a rs232 external modem 56k for sell or could somebody tell me what be the best modem to use for fax server
[07:11] <rdw200169_> saintmike: of course, but you have to figure out how to send vty switches to the virtual machine
[07:11] <unfo> timreichhart: see www.ebay.com or www.craigslist.com or IRC ##hardware
[07:12] <rdw200169_> saintmike: i.e. ctrl+alt+f4
[07:12] <fryguy> I'm running gnome on a remote X server.  It's running very slowly though.  Flannel told me I had to run gnome inside of an X client.  Will this speed up gnome?  I have a picture of the process list (warning, the image is quite large, approximately 4.5mb): http://rattlesnake.ath.cx:81/xclient.png -- If someone can tell me what I'm doing wrong and what x client to run to speed things up it would be appreciated.
[07:12] <metrick> drunk: it says i need to add filesystem type
[07:12] <saintmike> rdw200169_:  ok...
[07:12] <rdw200169_> paul68: here's what i have for line 131 $IPTABLES -A FORWARD -i $LAN -o $WAN -s $ACCESS -j ACCEPT
[07:12] <metrick> specify filesystem type*
[07:12] <timreichhart> sorry unfo that information you just gave is useless
[07:12] <MTecknology> drunk: fine - I'll ignore sleep for a few minutes...
[07:12] <paul68> rdw200169_: then you are on the old version my friend
[07:12] <rdw200169_> paul68: and that one gives full access to the ones that get it
[07:12] <drunk> fryguy, startx??
[07:13] <timreichhart> does anybody got a rs232 external modem 56k for sell or could somebody tell me what be the best modem to use for fax server for ubuntu
[07:13] <unfo> timreichhart: why? :)
[07:13] <fryguy> drunk: startx is for running an x server
[07:13] <drunk> i thought that started gnome though
[07:13] <rdw200169_> paul68: it's the one that has the $LAN variable fixed, etc...
[07:13] <unfo> timreichhart: why was it useless?
[07:13] <paul68> rdw200169_: but I guess I need to have to yes
[07:13] <MTecknology> ditch64: could you ls -l /boot/grub/
[07:13] <saintmike> rdw200169_: what's that for?
[07:13] <timreichhart> because unfo I can type in 56 modem for anything
[07:13] <MTecknology> ditch64: pastebin that
[07:13] <paul68> rdw200169_: add port 80 for the restricted ones
[07:13] <bazhang> timreichhart, check in ##hardware NOT here
[07:13] <rdw200169_> saintmike: what, the key sequence?
[07:13] <shadowwulf> drunk, fryguy  suggestions on a non resolve http error ?
[07:13] <paul68> rdw200169_: otherwise no internet for them right
[07:13] <unfo> timreichhart: you cannot buy hardware on this IRC channel.
[07:13] <unfo> timreichhart: it is off-topic here.
[07:13] <rdw200169_> paul68: right
[07:14] <timreichhart> please read what my message said unfo
[07:14] <Ohmu> timreichhart, also: post once only! or you'll get ignored.
[07:14] <drunk> not sure why copying file to an external driver would give resolve errors
[07:14] <unfo> timreichhart: what does "I can type in 56 modem for anything" mean?
[07:14] <judgen> rdw200169_: http://judgen.googlepages.com/iptables-save
[07:14] <drunk> not sure why copying file to an external driver would give resolve errors shadowwulf
[07:14] <timreichhart> please ohmu look at the message
[07:14] <drunk> drive*
[07:14] <paul68> rdw200169_: also udp and tcp or is tcp enough?
[07:14] <wwjohnson3> i am extremely new to ubuntu and am trying to get both my ati tv wonder 200 and remote wonder plus to work.  could someone assist me with this
[07:14] <bazhang> timreichhart, no.
[07:14] <timreichhart> it says OR
[07:14] <bazhang> timreichhart, that is offtopic here
[07:14] <judgen> rdw200169_: still cant get it to work
[07:14] <rdw200169_> judgen: no, i don't want the file! i want the output from running the command!
[07:14] <saintmike> rdw200169_: would it solve my problem if i use a higher version of vmware?
[07:14] <timreichhart> how the hell can it be off topic when it said OR
[07:14] <rdw200169_> saintmike: i don't know
[07:15] <shadowwulf> drunk,  sorry dont think that answer was for me
[07:15] <judgen> rdw200169_: that is the output silly. just named it badly its a txt file
[07:15] <unfo> wwjohnson3:  Sorry, too busy, I can't.  But please repaste us your question with more details included.  Use a longer line.
[07:15] <Flannel> timreichhart: This is an Ubuntu channel, not a Hardware channel.  There are other channels for that.  Thanks.
[07:15] <vlt> Hello. Can I run the latest security update including "dbus" while users are logged in?
[07:15] <timreichhart> please read my message
[07:15] <Ohmu> timreichhart, I'm ignoring you for spamming.  Suggest you drop it or you'll get kicked.
[07:15] <saintmike> rdw200169_: what key sequence are you refering to?
[07:15] <unfo> timreichhart the first part was off-topic.  The second part was ontopic.
[07:15] <rdw200169_> judgen: and eth0 is your internet connection, right?
[07:16] <drunk> haha
[07:16] <bazhang> !hcl | timreichhart
[07:16] <timreichhart> I suggest Ohmu and unfo better read what I was asking
[07:16] <judgen> rdw200169_: eth0 is wan and eth1 is lan
[07:16] <unfo> timreichhart: repeat: the first part was off-topic.  The second part was ontopic.
[07:16] <MTecknology> ditch64: you working on that?
[07:16] <timreichhart> I dont care
[07:16] <bazhang> timreichhart, please read that link
[07:16] <Cpudan80> Just ban him already
[07:16] <timreichhart> please read my message
[07:16] <rdw200169_> saintmike: the one from 22:12
[07:16] <rdw200169_> saintmike: 2:12
[07:17] <{^KinG^}> fryguy now i have error  from xvid
[07:17] <{^KinG^}> Unknown codec 'libxvid'
[07:17] <fryguy> {^KinG^}: so then install that codec, apt-cache search can help you find it
[07:17] <Cpudan80> {^KinG^}: install it
[07:17] <unfo> timreichhart: if you repeat the ontopic part of your question, maybe someone will help you.  If you are using Ubuntu Server Edition, repeat it in #ubuntu-server for best reponse.
[07:17] <judgen> hi Cpudan80
[07:17] <Cpudan80> {^KinG^}: I think it's just sudo apt-get install xvid32
[07:17] <rdw200169_> judgen: ok, then this might be related to routing, can you tell me if there's a line that contains the word 'default' when you run the command 'ip route'
[07:17] <Cpudan80> judgen: hello hello
[07:18] <givemeaname> why do i have 2 folders named cdrom and cdrom0 if i only have 1 drive? they both bring me to the cd in my drive.....
[07:18] <wwjohnson3> what channel should i go to find out how to setup my ati tv wonder 200 and remote wonder plus on ubuntu?
[07:18] <timreichhart> i have went over that chat room and that chat is dead
[07:18] <rdw200169_> givemeaname: ones a symbolic link to the other
[07:18] <Cpudan80> givemeaname: one is a symlink to the other one
[07:18] <drunk> givemeaname, i think one is a symlink
[07:18] <timreichhart> so that is why I came over to here
[07:18] <Buntu765_> How Do I get the Fire Effect too work with desktop effects in 8.10?
[07:18] <bazhang> !offtopic | timreichhart
[07:18] <saintmike> rdw200169_: sorry sir...what exactly are you refering "2:12"
[07:18] <{^KinG^}> Cpudan80 dont exist xvid32
[07:18] <Cpudan80> givemeaname: basically to support legacy (or perhaps just bad) programs that default to /dev/cdrom
[07:18] <{^KinG^}> i have install libxvidcore4 and libxvidcore4-dev
[07:18] <Cpudan80> hrm...
[07:19] <Cpudan80> {^KinG^}: how bout ubuntu-restricted-extras ?
[07:19] <jcarter_> anyone have any clue as to how to make a Linksys wireless PCMIA card work in Ubuntu 8.04 on an IBM T31 laptop?
[07:19] <judgen> rdw200169_: http://judgen.googlepages.com/ip_route
[07:19] <unfo> giacomo_: sorry, must go now.
[07:19] <rdw200169_> saintmike: it's a time, from the chat log, regardless, i'm referring to the act of VTY switching, i.e. in ubuntu desktop, you can see 6 tty's by typing, accordingly, ctrl+alt+f1, ctrl+alt+f2, etc...
[07:19] <givemeaname> oh so it's not an error or bad thing, it's a precaution, thank you
[07:19] <{^KinG^}> i have that too Cpudan80
[07:19] <judgen> rdw200169_: and yes
[07:19] <rdw200169_> saintmike: ctrl+alt+f8 is the gdm, xwindows tty
[07:19] <Cpudan80> givemeaname: yeah - don't get rid of it
[07:19] <timreichhart> this why most people dont switch to ubuntu/linux not must help or support
[07:19] <paul68> rdw200169_: you mentioned the etc services file earlier I presume it's the one on the server side then?
[07:19] <Things> Would someone be able to help me with setting up my wireless card in Ubuntu ?
[07:19] <{^KinG^}> ubuntu-restricted-extras ya está en su versión más reciente.
[07:19] <{^KinG^}> 0 actualizados, 0 se instalarán, 0 para eliminar y 0 no actualizados.
[07:19] <kraant> Bah upgraded to 8.10 and now I have no sound
[07:20] <bazhang> !wifi | Things
[07:20] <{^KinG^}> me too kraant
[07:20] <{^KinG^}> im back to 8.04 but now dont work mp4ize
[07:20] <jcarter_> Things: that's my problem, too.
[07:20] <{^KinG^}> :S
[07:20] <Cpudan80> Things: usually you can just put the card in and boot it up
[07:20] <Things> Ive looked at it, but I cant figure it out
[07:20] <saintmike> rdw200169_: do i have to do that at vmware?
[07:20] <rdw200169_> paul68: the /etc/services files contains generic port numbers for popular services, you should read it, you can use the canonical name provided as an alias to mentioning the port numbers
[07:20] <Cpudan80> Things: Does it not show up in restricted drivers?
[07:20] <rdw200169_> saintmike: without using ssh, yes
[07:20] <{^KinG^}> fryguy whats i need to install
[07:20] <Things> The card gets power, and ubuntu knows its there, it just wont communicate with anything
[07:20] <rdw200169_> saintmike: it might be tricky, sending it those key combos
[07:21] <paul68> rdw200169_: so when it states pop3 I just can mention pop3 after dport?
[07:21] <Cpudan80> Things: but it doesnt show up in restricted drivers or network manager?
[07:21] <rdw200169_> saintmike: if i'm not mistaken, though, i think the installer runs on vty1
[07:21] <bazhang> Things, open a terminal and type ifconfig; how many entries
[07:21] <saintmike> rdw200169_: ok il try...
[07:21] <rdw200169_> paul68: i'm pretty sure, yes
[07:21] <Things> Nope
[07:21] <ramontayag> i downloaded themes from here: http://www.junauza.com/2008/08/10-beautiful-themes-for-ubuntu-intrepid.html but I don't know how to install them.  When I go themes > add, nothing shows up when I browse the extracted tar balls
[07:21] <kraant> {^KinG^}, jcarter_ Any ideas on why? I can get the tone in the sound preferences but no sound elsewhere which is strange
[07:21] <Things> it doesnt have a auto eth0 thingy like ethernet does
[07:21] <rdw200169_> paul68: i'm not 100% on that, but i'm pretty sure, i think i read it in the manpage for iptables
[07:21] <drunk> jcarter_, install ndiswrwapper and download windows drivers for your card "sudo ndiswrapper -i /folder/Lsbcmds.sys && sudo modprobe ndiswrapper" the light on the card should start blinking, click on your network icon and connect to wireless networks.. add "ndiswrapper" to your "/etc/modules" file to add to startup
[07:21] <ditch64> MTecknology: nvm i got it thank you
[07:21] <Cpudan80> Things: type iwconfig at a prompt and see what it says
[07:21] <ditch64> MTecknology: it was LST not LIST haha
[07:22] <rdw200169_> saintmike: i think the debconf installer runs on vty1, and the syslog output is on vty4, might be 2, i can't remember
[07:22] <rdw200169_> saintmike: so ctrl+alt+f2 or ctrl+alt+f4 should show you the syslog output
[07:22] <judgen> rdw200169_: any ideas?
[07:22] <Things> I get http://www.mibbit.com/pb/van5HQ
[07:22] <paul68> rdw200169_: ok
[07:23] <Things> I did set it to infrastructure
[07:23] <rdw200169_> saintmike: more often than not, it looks like a bunch of stuff you would see doing normal apt-get stuff
[07:23] <saintmike> rdw200169_: okies....
[07:23] <rdw200169_> saintmike: that's where you would catch the errors
[07:23] <rdw200169_> judgen: ok, from the router, can you ping google.com?
[07:23] <saintmike> rdw200169_: but i tried it and does nothng...
[07:23] <caiphn> newbie here, can anyone tell me how to tell what driver my usb wireless adaptor is using?
[07:23] <rdw200169_> saintmike: when the installation fails, do you get back to the debian installer main menu?
[07:23] <judgen> rdw200169_: from the computer that routs. yes im using it to talk to you innit?
[07:24] <saintmike> rdw200169_: yes....
[07:24] <judgen> rdw200169_: from the routed computer, no
[07:24] <Cpudan80> Things: so the card is working...
[07:24] <rdw200169_> judgen: and your users are getting ip's via dhcp?
[07:24] <saintmike> rdw200169_: yes sir...i get back to the menu....
[07:24] <judgen> rdw200169_: yes. and dns works too.
[07:24] <Cpudan80> Things: albeit in the wrong mode  ... hrm ... odd
[07:24] <Things> It wont communicate though
[07:24] <skylarS> caiphn, thinking...
[07:24] <Things> I cant get onto internet or anything
[07:24] <rdw200169_> judgen: have you tried manually assigning an ip/subnet/gateway/dns?
[07:24] <Cpudan80> Things: What version of Ubuntu are you using?
[07:24] <Things> it doesnt even connect
[07:24] <aaron_> hi how would I change the start up screen for ubuntu?
[07:24] <Things> 8.10
[07:24] <rdw200169_> judgen: on a user to make sure that works?
[07:24] <Cpudan80> Things: Well right now it says your using Ad-hoc
[07:25] <judgen> rdw200169_: i can try it
[07:25] <saintmike> rdw200169_: if i try to run taskel...i says the same thing....could not proceed installtion...
[07:25] <rdw200169_> saintmike: well then, you can get the logfile there
[07:25] <bazhang> !usplash | aaron_
[07:25] <Things> I have tried changing it to Infrastructure
[07:25] <rdw200169_> saintmike: just go to the very bottom of the menu, and get into a terminal
[07:25] <Things> or w/e it is
[07:25] <Cpudan80> Things: If you right click the network manager icon on the taskbar and hit properties
[07:25] <rdw200169_> saintmike: after the failure
[07:25] <Cpudan80> Things: err edit connections
[07:25] <Cpudan80> Do you have a wireless tab in that window?
[07:25] <saintmike> rdw200169_: ok...im opening vmware-0.log
[07:25] <rdw200169_> saintmike: it should be stored in, /target/var/log/syslog or /var/log/syslog, i can't remember which the installer uses
[07:26] <Things> yup
[07:26] <rdw200169_> saintmike: no, not that file.
[07:26] <rdw200169_> saintmike: i'm talking about in the running vm
[07:26] <Cpudan80> Things: and you've setup your wifi in there?
[07:26] <Things> I put in my networks SSID
[07:26] <saintmike> rdw200169_: ops sorry
[07:26] <ferronica> how to install Compiz-Fusion 07.8 on ubuntu 8.10???
[07:26] <judgen> rdw200169_: hay freakin hey! it works  now... i had a minor spelling error in the nameservers section =) Haha sometimes im such a noob
[07:26] <Things> when I added a connection
[07:26] <rdw200169_> judgen: of the dhcp file?
[07:26] <saintmike> rdw200169_: how am i gona do that?
[07:26] <judgen> rdw200169_: yes
[07:26] <paul68> rdw200169_: and tcp 25 for smtp right?
[07:26] <Cpudan80> Things: does your APs use security ?
[07:26] <rdw200169_> judgen: that's wehre i was going next...
[07:27] <ramontayag> how do i install these themes? i downloaded themes from here: http://www.junauza.com/2008/08/10-beautiful-themes-for-ubuntu-intrepid.html but I don't know how to install them.  When I go themes > add, nothing shows up when I browse the extracted tar balls.
[07:27] <Things> Nope
[07:27] <rdw200169_> judgen: the static ip thing made you think of it?
[07:27] <Cpudan80> Things: very odd......
[07:27] <rdw200169_> paul68: for non ssl, yes
[07:27] <judgen> rdw200169_: definitly
[07:27] <Cpudan80> Things: have you tried rebooting with the configs all set?
[07:27] <rdw200169_> judgen: nice ;)
[07:27] <Things> No I havent ...
[07:27] <givemeaname> GRUB is for linux/ubuntu correct?
[07:27] <Things> hmmm
[07:27] <rdw200169_> saintmike: in the debian installation menu that it kicks you back to , there an option to open a shell
[07:27] <rdw200169_> saintmike: it's at the bottom i believe
[07:28] <Things> Its a ACX 111 card, which apparently is hard to get working in ubuntu ?
[07:28] <rdw200169_> saintmike: this is after the
[07:28] <rdw200169_> saintmike: failed installation of pacakges
[07:28] <saintmike> rdw200169_: yes i seethat...
[07:28] <mictor> can anyone help me with my sd reader problem?
[07:28] <judgen> rdw200169_: im very thankful for your time. i cant overstate this but thanks alot. youve made my day allready and its only 07:28 =)
[07:28] <kraant> Oh hey changing all my sound from autodetect to pulse audio fixed everything... heh
[07:28] <paul68> rdw200169_: where should you insert logging rules in the current script
[07:28] <rdw200169_> judgen: hey, no problem, we've all been there
[07:28] <saintmike> rdw200169_: okies....i try to check it...
[07:28] <mictor> i have ubuntu 8.04 running on my eee pc 901
[07:28] <rdw200169_> saintmike: once you get into the shell, you can root around the filesystems
[07:29] <nabcore> The ACX 111 drivers are not very good at all (and it's not just an ubuntu thing), they have issues and are really maintained that well
[07:29] <{^KinG^}> Unknown codec 'libxvid'
[07:29] <rdw200169_> saintmike: the /target/ directory is where the debian installer is putting your new ubuntu server
[07:29] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=571188 Things check this
[07:29] <judgen> givemeaname: grub is a bootloader that works with all OS'es that has ext support and can load any os that has filesystem loading without problems.
[07:29] <AzuShika> soo...
[07:29] <ferronica> how to install Compiz-Fusion 07.8 on ubuntu 8.10???
[07:29] <rdw200169_> saintmike: everything else is imaginary in the ram
[07:29] <Cpudan80> Things: dunno
[07:29] <caiphn> newbie here, can anyone tell me how to tell what driver my usb wireless adaptor is using?
[07:29] <Cpudan80> Things: usually when you get this far you're good to go...
[07:29] <judgen> ferronica: just sudo apt-get install compiz-fusion
[07:29] <rdw200169_> ferronica: try to find a Personal ARchive that keeps up the latest versions
[07:29] <jcarter_> drunk_, thanks for the input, but you're talking to a novice. I've heard of ndiswrapper, but don't know how to get it.
[07:30] <skylarS> caiphn, netstat | more is not what you want...
[07:30] <crdlb> ferronica: you already have it, the only thing missing is the settings manager (compizconfig-settings-manager)
[07:30] <rdw200169_> ferronica: i can't remember what version ubuntu 8.10 is default with
[07:30] <ferronica> judgen: will this command do all
[07:30] <Things> "2. The ESSID of your router must be broadcasted and not hidden"
[07:30] <Things> Whats a ESSID ?
[07:30] <drunk> jcarter_, "sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper" hit tab a couple of time and pick the newest ones.. install the necessary dependencies it asks you to as well
[07:30] <ferronica> crdlb: from where Add/Remove?
[07:30] <skylarS> caiphn, iwconfig doesn't have it...
[07:30] <crdlb> judgen: you know there is no such package? :)
[07:30] <Cpudan80> Things: Effective SSID
[07:30] <Cpudan80> Things: basically the SSID
[07:31] <rdw200169_> saintmike: regardless, there's most definitely log files that will help you with the installation, there's also an option to send the log files to another computer, if the installation server has bon-a-fide network access
[07:31] <Cpudan80> Things: Fancy APs can do multiple SSIDs at once
[07:31] <Things> Tryin to convert from Windows here, so total Linux nub lol
[07:31] <saintmike> rdw200169_:  sir im now in the target directory...
[07:31] <crdlb> ferronica: from wherever you like: apt-get, synaptic, add/remove
[07:31] <judgen> ferronica: just load up synaptic, search for compiz and youll find the needed packages.
[07:31] <rdw200169_> saintmike: excellent!, now i'm assuming that during this installation, there was an error, and that we're expecting to catch it now?
[07:31] <judgen> crdlb: there used to be... dont they have a "ghost package"?
[07:31] <Cpudan80> Things: gotta start somewhere ;-)
[07:32] <saintmike> rdw200169_: yes....
[07:32] <PUNISHER> Hello
[07:32] <Stevethepirate> Anyone recognise this login screen: http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_UqUwVPikChs/SRlZfNgopmI/AAAAAAAAHlE/iEOhSEAdCTQ/s1600-h/interpid_ibex_mockup_part_3.jpg
[07:32] <paul68> rdw200169_: where should you insert logging rules in the current script
[07:32] <rdw200169_> saintmike: ok then, go to the directory /target/var/log
[07:32] <crdlb> judgen: I don't think that was ever a package; 'compiz' has always installed everything (except for ccsm)
[07:32] <caiphn> skylarS: nope
[07:32] <Stevethepirate> [the theme that is]
[07:32] <judgen> Stevethepirate: yes that is smoke login screen for gdm
[07:33] <rdw200169_> paul68: really, that's up to you, everyones firewall is different, in that, everyone is trying to prevent or allow different things....
[07:33] <saintmike> rdw200169_: yes im here
[07:33] <judgen> Stevethepirate: i think its available at gnome-look
[07:33] <jcarter_> drunk_, thanks. Now I just need to wire the laptop to my router. It's just a few feet away. I'll get there.
[07:33] <rdw200169_> saintmike: now, try this, tail -n 20 syslog
[07:33] <skylarS> caiphn, $network-config            main>preferences>wifi
[07:33] <rdw200169_> saintmike: but don't paste here, please...
[07:33] <paul68> rdw200169_: understood in the given script where should you put the loggings to see what is going on ?
[07:33] <saintmike> rdw200169_: yes...
[07:33] <Stevethepirate> judgen: link?
[07:34] <rdw200169_> paul68: depends, what do you want to see most?
[07:34] <Stevethepirate> I was looking on gnome-customize and gnome-look earlier
[07:34] <saintmike> rdw200169_: but i does nt do anything...
[07:34] <Things> Oh
[07:34] <rdw200169_> saintmike: the file is empty? try this, cat syslog
[07:34] <Things> when wireless tries to connect to my AP
[07:34] <saintmike> rdw200169_: same thing
[07:34] <judgen> Stevethepirate: sorry..
[07:34] <Things> it seems to get disconnected at the "getting IP" stage, or whatever its called
[07:34] <rdw200169_> saintmike: or at least see if the file exists, i.e. 'ls'
[07:35] <Cpudan80> Things: hrm...
[07:35] <Stevethepirate> judgen: K, /me looks more
[07:35] <Cpudan80> Things: but it works under windows?
[07:35] <saintmike> rdw200169_: yes it does exist
[07:35] <Things> Yeah
[07:35] <rdw200169_> saintmike: do this, 'cd /var/log/
[07:35] <Cpudan80> Things: and the AP is broadcasting the SSID ?
[07:35] <ramontayag> any ideas on installing those themes?
[07:35] <Things> It shows up in the windows wireless network manager, so I guess it is
[07:35] <rdw200169_> saintmike: maybe that's where it put it...
[07:36] <rdw200169_> saintmike: i can't remember
[07:36] <ubd> i am using a laptop with a broken lcd, laptop is connected to a 1650* monitor. i would like to be able to close the lid and use at native resolution of the monitor. can you help me?
[07:36] <Cpudan80> Things: is the output of iwconfig still the same as before?
[07:36] <paul68> rdw200169_: well see what is going on and eventually track possible attacks
[07:36] <judgen> Stevethepirate: i can provide you with a more beatufil gdm theme though =) http://gnome-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=1&id=92952&file1=92952-1.png&file2=&file3=&name=Evolution
[07:36] <saintmike> rdw200169_: yes sir im here...
[07:36] <Stevethepirate> judgen: http://www.gnome-look.org/index.php?xsortmode=alpha&logpage=0&xcontentmode=150&page=117
[07:36] <rdw200169_> any interesting files in there?
[07:36] <Stevethepirate> Goes straight from SL to SN
[07:36] <ramontayag> ubd, first don't close the lid.. a lot of heat gets dissipated via the keyboard
[07:36] <C0p3rn1c> mythtv-setup crashes on a clean ubuntu interpid install,where should i file a bug report?
[07:36] <rdw200169_> saintmike: try it again, tail syslog
[07:36] <jcarter_> drunk_, ndiswrapper not found! Now what?
[07:36] <alex_mayorga> ok looks like I'll need to try a reinstall and see if that helps with my networking blues
[07:37] <Cpudan80> Things: interesting .. my laptop doesnt have an ESSID box in the network manager
[07:37] <alex_mayorga> if I install ubuntu on top of ubuntu, would it preserver my data?
[07:37] <Cpudan80> Things: can you screenshot that window (with the config thing) ?
[07:37] <rdw200169_> paul68: well, you can't log everything, or the syslog would get swamped
[07:37] <saintmike> rdw200169_: same thing...
[07:37] <Cpudan80> alex_mayorga: install ubuntu on top of ubuntu ?
[07:37] <ubd> ramontayag, :PP
[07:37] <bazhang> paste.ubuntu.com of ifconfig Things and give us the url
[07:37] <paul68> rdw200169_: lol also true
[07:38] <Things> ok
[07:38] <alex_mayorga> Cpudan80, like a Win32 "repair install" kind of thing
[07:38] <rdw200169_> paul68: honestly, you might want to try something like ntop, to track usage
[07:38] <djxcqtion> wats up mates
[07:38] <Stevethepirate> judgen: Lulz.
[07:38] <Cpudan80> alex_mayorga: oh ehh yes I think
[07:38] <ubd> ramontayag, do you know if i can disable the view on laptop but use the external only?
[07:38] <rdw200169_> paul68: it does a pretty good job of tracking how much of what everyone is using, and then you know what you want to block
[07:38] <aaron_> I'm still confused with the usplash thing I did this: sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u  what do I do after that?
[07:38] <saintmike> rdw200169_: it sill does nothing sir....
[07:38] <Stevethepirate> Its actually called "Intrepid Ibis GDM theme"
[07:38] <Stevethepirate> http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Intrepid+Ibex+GDM?content=86712
[07:38] <Cpudan80> alex_mayorga: Like if you end up downgrading some packages, there is a chance stuff wont work
[07:39] <rdw200169_> saintmike: are there any interesting files in the directory?
[07:39] <Freku> maybe a bios setting in your laptop
[07:39] <rdw200169_> saintmike: i.e. 'installation_log' or something like that?
[07:39] <ramontayag> ubd: i'm no expert so best if someone else helps you out there. but you gotta do some editing in x11.. i always feel like i'm gonna destroy something when i do that.
[07:39] <Things> http://paste.ubuntu.com/71253/
[07:39] <c_korn> hello
[07:39] <saintmike> rdw200169_: mail.err.....
[07:39] <judgen> aaron what are you trying to do?
[07:39] <rdw200169_> ramontayag: for good reason...
[07:39] <paul68> rdw200169_: I already have a tracking on persons trying to connect through ssh and warning me by mail if someone making an attempt on that part
[07:39] <c_korn> this is my xorg.conf http://paste.debian.net/21347/
[07:39] <drunk> ubd, are you using nvidia?
[07:39] <ubd> freku bios cant ıdentıfy the monıtors there are two options: auto/both
[07:40] <saintmike> rdw200169_: duno if it means something....
[07:40] <rdw200169_> paul68: that's pretty paranoid.
[07:40] <aaron_> I want to change my usplash screen when I login
[07:40] <ramontayag> rdw200169_: hehe.. yeah :)
[07:40] <c_korn> but the edid information are not being loaded when X starts up
[07:40] <alex_mayorga> Cpudan80, I'll try that tomorrow I guess
[07:40] <Cpudan80> Things: is your ethernet cable plugged in?
[07:40] <rdw200169_> saintmike: nah, not that one...
[07:40] <Fish-Guts> hello. i have a problem with the clipboard in rdesktop under hardy. i connect to a windows 2003 terminal server, using RDPv5 and i pass -r clipboard:PRIMARYCLIPBOARD. but the clip doesn't work all. any ideas what might be the problem?
[07:40] <ubd> drunk: no i have an intel chip
[07:40] <Cpudan80> Things: you cant run both things at once
[07:40] <rdw200169_> saintmike: alright, do an exit
[07:40] <rdw200169_> saintmike: i.e. type exit
[07:40] <Things> I know, im on ethernet now, but when i'm not, wireless wont connect at all
[07:40] <rdw200169_> saintmike: and get back to the debian installer menu
[07:40] <rdw200169_> saintmike: what are the last three options in the menu?
[07:40] <drunk> c_korn, "sudo nvidia-settings"
[07:41] <judgen> aaron there is a gnome app for that: sudo apt-get install startupmanager
[07:41] <Cpudan80> Things: But You need to unplug the ethernet cable to test those setting changes
[07:41] <Things> when I click on the network icon on the taskbar, my wireless network isnt in the list
[07:41] <aaron_> oh thank you so much ^^
[07:41] <Cpudan80> hrm.............
[07:41] <bazhang> Things, does iwconfig show your essid
[07:41] <Things> Yes
[07:41] <saintmike> rdw200169_: i dont think its getting back to menu...
[07:41] <judgen> aaron_ there is a gnome app for that: sudo apt-get install startupmanager
[07:41] <bazhang> Things, using wep/wpa/none
[07:41] <paul68> rdw200169_: I know don't mind if that person connects through ssh since it's someone that helped me out building the server, but just want to make sure that (since he's more experienced then me) is trying to take over my server for whatever reason without me knowing it
[07:41] <rdw200169_> paul68: what are you using to do that, or is it a specific part of ssh?
[07:41] <Things> No encryption
[07:41] <judgen> c_korn: what are you trying to do?
[07:42] <paul68> rdw200169_: no it's a script that I put together
[07:42] <bazhang> Things, sudo dhclient wlan0 followed by your user password
[07:42] <rdw200169_> paul68: ah, what i'm talking about takes statistical information on the whole mess
[07:42] <rdw200169_> paul68: http://www.ntop.org/news.html
[07:43] <saintmike> rdw200169_: its showing ">"...
[07:43] <c_korn> drunk: and what then? the point is that my display has a max resolution of 1280x800. and no other resolution can be chosen. so I acquired the edid information of the display and also activated lower resolutions. (to play some 800x600 only games)
[07:43] <Things> hmm
[07:43] <rdw200169_> saintmike: and you typed 'exit'?
[07:43] <Things> brb i'll unplug ethernet
[07:43] <saintmike> rdw200169_: yeah
[07:43] <rdw200169_> saintmike: and it won't let you out?
[07:44] <saintmike> rdw200169_: yeah
[07:44] <djxcqtion> mates i need some help
[07:44] <rdw200169_> saintmike: alright, try running dmesg
[07:44] <skylarS> djxcqtion, gogogo
[07:45] <saintmike> rdw200169_: it still nothing....
[07:45] <djxcqtion> mate i need some help with torrentflux-b4rt 1.0-beta2
[07:45] <rdw200169_> paul68: using ntop, you would know if you need to block something
[07:45] <saintmike> i thing i have to reset my vmware.....
[07:45] <djxcqtion> logiing on to my server i get a rellay weird error mssage
[07:46] <needhelpnoob> hi can someone be kind enough to help me with reinstalling grub?
[07:46] <paul68> rdw200169_: this is the script that I have for notifying me when someone enters through ssh http://paste.ubuntu.com/71257/
[07:46] <needhelpnoob> iv read the tutorials but it doesnt help
[07:46] <drunk> c_korn, http://pastebin.com/ffec331d
[07:46] <djxcqtion> Error with function.fopen / function.filesize in my server
[07:47] <rdw200169_> paul68: fancy!
[07:47] <rdw200169_> saintmike: what a pain...
[07:47] <djxcqtion> ?? can anyone help solve this extremely annyoninhg issue
[07:47] <needhelpnoob> hi can someone help me to reinstall grub? i've read the tutorial but it doesnt help
[07:47] <{^KinG^}> Ubuntu Unknown option "–enable-gpl"
[07:47] <{^KinG^}> why i see that
[07:47] <rdw200169_> saintmike: alright, can you 'chroot /target' ?
[07:47] <saintmike> rdw200169_: yeah....
[07:47] <bazhang> djxcqtion, install from repos
[07:48] <saintmike> rdw200169_: any suggestion to prevent installation error sir?>
[07:48] <ikonia> needhelpnoob: what's the issue
[07:48] <rdw200169_> saintmike: there's no way to know, until we figure out the error that's preventing it!
[07:48] <drunk> needhelpnoob, use the live cd to partition your drives the same way you have them, make sure you choose NOT to format any of them and install, it will install grub without changing any of your files
[07:48] <xukun> I,m using ubuntu 8.04 64 bits, I can't view the video from Youtube. I know I need some kind of plugin for firefox to display this but which one for 64bits?
[07:48] <rdw200169_> saintmike: what i want to try now, is installing ssh-server, and try to get in that way
[07:48] <saintmike> rdw200169_: i had just restarted the vm and it does nt do a thing...
[07:48] <bazhang> sudo apt-get install torrentflux djxcqtion
[07:49] <needhelpnoob> ikonia: i installed ubuntu 8.04 within windows. so im not sure if those instructions will help
[07:49] <rdw200169_> saintmike: switch the boot order, to use the cd first
[07:49] <ikonia> needhelpnoob no that changes things
[07:49] <needhelpnoob> so what should i do instead?
[07:49] <rdw200169_> saintmike: now that there's something on the "hdd" it's trying to boot there.. but you have to specify cd, so it tries that first
[07:49] <saintmike> rdw200169_: cd is the first boot order sir...
[07:49] <ikonia> needhelpnoob: what is the problem
[07:49] <rdw200169_> saintmike: and it doesn't do anythign?
[07:49] <needhelpnoob> well when i find stage1 folder it says file not found
[07:49] <MHz128> hey all!
[07:50] <djxcqtion> bazhang
[07:50] <ikonia> needhelpnoob: why are you messing with grub - what is the problem that caused this
[07:50] <djxcqtion> can i pm mate
[07:50] <saintmike> rdw200169_: im using .is...
[07:50] <bazhang> djxcqtion, lets keep it in channel
[07:50] <saintmike> rdw200169_: im using .iso...
[07:50] <MHz128> What is the name of the app used to display system information and network statistics on the dekstop? its common in linux screenshots, however i cant figure out what it is!
[07:50] <djxcqtion> mate its just that i have yto show u the error mssg
[07:50] <needhelpnoob> ikonia: i was booting into ubuntu using windows bootloader. now i have deleted windows and can not get into bootloader menu
[07:50] <saintmike> i think i have to do the same procedure agein...
[07:51] <rdw200169_> saintmike: regardless, it won't bring you to the installation menu fro mthe cd?
[07:51] <djxcqtion> i have been gettig
[07:51] <needhelpnoob> ikonia: and also my ubuntu was installed within windows on an ntfs disk
[07:51] <djxcqtion> thsi mssge whenever i log in to my server
[07:51] <ikonia> needhelpnoob: and you won't because your grub stage one files where on the windows parrition
[07:51] <bazhang> djxcqtion, no need; install the intrepid version (its version 2.4.1)
[07:51] <saintmike> rdw200169_: duno....
[07:51] <bazhang> MHz128, conky
[07:51] <needhelpnoob> ikonia: so what can i do about it?
[07:51] <ikonia> needhelpnoob: if you have deleted your windows data - then the grub data will be gone
[07:51] <rdw200169_> saintmike: y'know, you could try using VirtualBox, i nkow for a fact that it installs fine from that
[07:51] <{^KinG^}> Ubuntu Unknown option "–enable-gpl"
[07:51] <{^KinG^}> Ubuntu Unknown option "–enable-gpl"
[07:52] <MHz128> bazhang, ive installed conky, but its more of a terminal based display....
[07:52] <ikonia> needhelpnoob: you've installed "within windows" - so you've deleted your ubuntu data also
[07:52] <goofrider> can i get some help please? i'm having a hard time chainging group/user SIDs
[07:52] <needhelpnoob> ikonia: there is a folder called ubuntu on my windows partition. it has a folder called boot and "stage1"
[07:52] <saintmike> rdw200169_: would intalling a higher version help?
[07:52] <rdw200169_> MHz128: conky is awesome...
[07:52] <ikonia> needhelpnoob: so you still have your windows data/partition ?
[07:52] <rdw200169_> saintmike: of vmware?
[07:52] <woody86> why is opera not available under add/remove programs any longer?
[07:52] <saintmike> rdw200169_: yes
[07:52] <needhelpnoob> ikonia: yes
[07:52] <bazhang> !opera > woody86
[07:53] <MHz128> rdw200169_, are there themes for it? mine looks like a terminal window
[07:53] <rdw200169_> saintmike: bollocks to vmware... wait did i say that?
[07:53] <ikonia> needhelpnoob: then what do you mean when you say you've removed windows ?
[07:53] <saintmike> rdw200169_: hehehehhehehe
[07:53] <rdw200169_> MHz128: no, but there are a lot of config file versions in a few threads on ubuntu-forums
[07:53] <saintmike> rdw200169_: anyway, thanx sir....gona take a coffee and cigarete....hehehehehe
[07:53] <needhelpnoob> ikonia: i removed everything within the windows partition apart from ubuntu folders since they were affected by viruses
[07:53] <rdw200169_> MHz128: and a big mention of major modifications to conky in lifehacker.com
[07:54] <MHz128> cool
[07:54] <needhelpnoob> ikonia: now i need some way of booting into my existing ubuntu installation
[07:54] <saintmike> rdw200169_: helps keep me cool....hahahahha
[07:54] <drunk> MHz128, if that program is running on my desktop how do i figure out what it's called?
[07:55] <rdw200169_> saintmike: seriously, take a shot at vbox, it's free, you don't have to use a 'machine-creator' like you do for the 'free' vmware player...
[07:55] <rdw200169_> saintmike: and it works very very well....
[07:55] <MHz128> drunk, ???
[07:55] <needhelpnoob> ikonia: anythign to suggest?
[07:55] <saintmike> rdw200169_: yeah....i think im gona do that....
[07:55] <ikonia> needhelpnoob: I see, well I don't know how wubi interfaces with ntfs partitions without windows
[07:56] <saintmike> rdw200169_: i dont recall having any ubuntu installations with desktop edition...
[07:56] <needhelpnoob> ikonia: so there's nothing i can do?
[07:56] <rdw200169_> paul68: there are also a lot of fantastic network monitoring tools that work on the command line for watching your traffic...
[07:56] <rdw200169_> saintmike: what do you mean?
[07:56] <goofrider> can i get some help please? i'm having a hard time chainging group/user SIDs
[07:56] <ikonia> needhelpnoob: I didn't say that, I said I don't know how wubi sets up grub to interface within ntfs partitons without windows
[07:56] <paul68> rdw200169_: thanks this script is going to send every hour from 8 am to 22 pm and keeps everything behind after 10 pm till the next day
[07:56] <c_korn> drunk: thanks. will test that later
[07:56] <needhelpnoob> ok thanks anyway
[07:57] <akrill> anyone here have experience setting up bind9 on ubuntu?
[07:57] <ikonia> akrill: what's up
[07:57] <BlackDex> Hello there,
[07:57] <BlackDex> I have a problem
[07:57] <paul68> rdw200169_: if you have some links I will look into it
[07:57] <saintmike> rdw200169_: i meant errors in ubuntu desktop installation...
[07:57] <BlackDex> i have a new screen 24" Samsung
[07:57] <BlackDex> it supports a resolution of 1920x1200
[07:57] <MHz128> rdw200169_, what is the extension for config files for conky? test.conf ?
[07:57] <BlackDex> but i can't get it to display this
[07:57] <akrill> ikonia: having trouble getting bind to respond to queries. keep getting a 5(REFUSED)
[07:57] <rdw200169_> saintmike: it might be something to do with the standard debian installer, i don't know, only that ubuntu destkop, (not alternate) uses ubuquity instead of the deb installer
[07:58] <ikonia> akrill: what policyes have you setup in your named.conf ?
[07:58] <rdw200169_> MHz128: i think it's ~/conkyrc
[07:58] <saintmike> rdw200169_: what version of vbox would you suggest....
[07:58] <BlackDex> A friend of mine has the same display and there it works fine
[07:58] <BlackDex> but he installed ubuntu after he got the new screen
[07:58] <rdw200169_> saintmike: i use the svn version, but it's a bit of a pain to get working, b/c you have to compile it
[07:59] <akrill> ikonia: i have the default configuration right now. (aside from adding a nameserver to forwarders)
[07:59] <akrill> ikonia: so, no policies.
[07:59] <MHz128> rdw200169_, .conckyrc means hidden correct?
[07:59] <ikonia> akrill: show me your config in a pastebin
[07:59] <saintmike> rdw200169_: wait....would ubuntu server allow installation in hdd through usb?
[07:59] <rdw200169_> MHz128: yeah,
[07:59] <saintmike> rdw200169_: with vmware....?
[07:59] <gareth_> hey there dvds refuse to play in my intrepid ibex install any ideas?
[07:59] <rdw200169_> saintmike: what do you mean?
[07:59] <saintmike> rdw200169_:  or with typical installtion?
[08:00] <xukun> is there a way to play Youtube video on ubuntu 8.04 64bits?
[08:00] <saintmike> rdw200169_: i have this desktop pc...lying around and an hdd w usb....
[08:00] <ikonia> xukun: isntall the flashplugin-nonfree package
[08:00] <BlackDex> i have tried to change the xorg.conf, but without success
[08:00] <rdw200169_> saintmike: with the way linux works, it shouldn't matter
[08:00] <akrill> ikonia: k hang on
[08:00] <saintmike> rdw200169_: can i install ubuntu server in usb?
[08:00]  * MHz128 Conky is awesome!!!
[08:00] <rdw200169_> saintmike: sure, shoudn't matter
[08:00] <saintmike> yeah....
[08:01] <saintmike> rdw200169_: maybe il try that...
[08:01] <saintmike> but i only have 7 gb of free space....
[08:01] <xukun> ikonia, that is already installed.
[08:01] <rdw200169_> saintmike: in the partition manager, from the installer, just specify /dev/sda, or something like that, just like a SATA drive
[08:01] <saintmike> rdw200169_: would it matter?
[08:01] <rdw200169_> saintmike: just depends on whether or not the installer correctly detects the drive, it should
[08:02] <akrill> ikonia: http://dpaste.com/90420/
[08:02] <saintmike> rdw200169_: okies....
[08:02] <Mba7eth> how can i test if a firewall in the middle is blocking port 80 using nmap ?
[08:02] <saintmike> rdw200169_:  il try that...
[08:02] <rdw200169_> saintmike: the installer won't care that it's usb, it gets a standard /dev/ assignment just like any other drive
[08:02] <metrick> when i try to mount my secondary hard drive using the command mount /dev/sdb /my/location it says i need to specify a filesystem type. the filesystem type is fat32, how do i enter that into the command properly?
[08:02] <saintmike> rdw200169_: okies...
[08:02] <goofrider> anyone can help me change SIDs in Samba? I spent all day searching the interwebs already
[08:02] <rdw200169_> saintmike: just make sure you're installing to the right drive, sometimes it's hard to tell from the partition manager
[08:02] <ikonia> akrill: what is 172.16.0.23 ? is that your machine ?
[08:03] <gareth_> hey there dvds refuse to play in my intrepid ibex install any ideas?
[08:03] <rdw200169_> metrick: it's vfat
[08:03] <saintmike> rdw200169_: yeah..im gona remove the drive m using....to keep it safe...hehehhehe
[08:03] <rdw200169_> metrick: i.e. mount -t vfat /dev/*** /mount/***
[08:03] <smokewon> Hey can someone here take a look at my post here on the forums, i need a bit of help: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=6166187&postcount=1
[08:03] <giacomo_> could someone help me please? I've " Cannot mix incompatible Qt libraries" on just compiled virtualbox-ose
[08:03] <metrick> thank you
[08:03] <akrill> ikonia: no, thats my ISPs nameserver
[08:04] <paul68> rdw200169_: if you have some links I will look into it
[08:04] <ikonia> akrill: is your isp's name server set to allow delegation from you ?
[08:04] <rdw200169_> metrick: you should read the manpage on mount for the options for that partition type, i.e. permissions etc...
[08:04] <rdw200169_> paul68: for what/
[08:04] <akrill> ikonia: that's a great question. i have no idea.
[08:04] <ikonia> akrill: if the answer is no - thats why your getting refused
[08:04] <akrill> ikonia: alright, then im guessing probably not. hang on
[08:04] <rdw200169_> paul68: ah, yes, check this, http://www.greamin.com/server/RichServer.html
[08:05] <ikonia> akrill: most isp's dns servers will not be setup to accetp queries from external dns servers
[08:05] <rdw200169_> paul68: all the application names are linked to their appropriate develper portals, etc...
[08:05] <paul68> rdw200169_: thanks
[08:06] <rdw200169_> paul68: check out iptraf, it's pretty powerful
[08:06] <rdw200169_> alright, off to bed
[08:06] <akrill> ikonia: that's apparently not the problem, i just changed it to a dns server i know allows such queries and it still gives me a 5(REFUSED)
[08:06] <ikonia> akrill: which dns server ?
[08:07] <ikonia> akrill: query and delegation are two different things
[08:07] <gareth_> hey there dvds refuse to play in my intrepid ibex install any ideas?
[08:07] <paul68> rdw200169_: will do
[08:07] <akrill> ikonia: opendns's servers
[08:07] <ikonia> akrill: do they allow delegation ?
[08:07] <ikonia> akrill: I thought they where just dns zone hosts
[08:08] <akrill> ikonia: they allow delegation, im pretty sure yes
[08:08] <akrill> ikonia: https://www.opendns.com/smb/start/device/bind
[08:09] <ikonia> akrill: ok - thats a good call
[08:09] <ikonia> akrill: so what does the named logs say
[08:09] <davidw> can you guys think of any reason this is not 'high' priority? https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/intrepid/+source/wpasupplicant/+bug/272185
[08:10] <con-man> im having trouble reading a dvd that was put in my drive, its a data-disc, am I missing anything do I need to install something?
[08:10] <con-man> its the WoTLK expansion, but there are only 2 files on the disc both 1.3 MB
[08:10] <akrill> ikonia: great question -- where is the log file located? i wasnt able to find it. (i figure i have to set up logging in the named.conf first?)
[08:10] <ikonia> akrill: thats correct, set it up, or run bind with a debug option of -d 9
[08:11] <akrill> ikonia: ok hang on a sec
[08:11] <goofrider> gareth_, did u install w32codes and libcss, etc?
[08:11] <con-man> anything to read dvds?
[08:12]  * davidw goes to fuck around with the driver
[08:12] <bazhang> davidw, no cursing
[08:12] <goofrider> con-man, data-dvds should be readable without extra tools. Is the disc readable on a different comp? can the drive read CDs?
[08:12] <ikonia> davidw: you know the rules on the language
[08:12] <davidw> ikonia, no, I didn't, sorry
[08:13] <con-man> goofrider: drives are fine, no other computer to try
[08:13] <con-man> goofrider: Im getting permissions issues
[08:13] <akrill> ikonia: 13-Nov-2008 08:13:32.195 security: info: client 10.1.0.100#35011: query (cache) 'freshmeat.net/A/IN' denied
[08:13] <goofrider> con-man, oh
[08:13] <needhelpnoob> anyone able to help me with gparted?
[08:13] <akrill> ikonia: nothing specific beyond that
[08:13] <giacomo_> could someone help me please? I've " Cannot mix incompatible Qt libraries" on every qt4 program
[08:14] <needhelpnoob> im getting errors in gparted when partitioning a drive. can anyone help?
[08:14] <ikonia> akrill: have you turned teh debugging up to 9
[08:14] <goofrider> con-man, you need to be in the "cdrom" group
[08:15] <metrick> I finally mounted my secondary drive but i cant write to it, how do i add permissions to write to it?
[08:15] <akrill> ikonia: aah, no. doing that now
[08:15] <paul68> rdw200169_: if I connect an accesspoint to my server on the 2nd eth do I need to do another nat translation or is that done automaticly?
[08:15] <goofrider> <--- I still need help with samba BTW
[08:16] <akrill> ikonia: recursion not available?
[08:16] <metrick> or how to i make it so i can copy files onto that drive?
[08:16] <needhelpnoob> ﻿im getting errors in gparted when partitioning a drive. can anyone help? i can pastebin the error log!
[08:16] <mddd> hi anyone there
[08:16] <akrill> ikonia: thats the only interesting new log msg
[08:16] <paul68> rdw200169_: just to be sure
[08:16] <ikonia> akrill: ok so add "recursion yes;" to the named.conf
[08:16] <mddd> can some please help me in installing nvidia drivers
[08:16] <ikonia> akrill: you may ewant to then consider locking down the dns server as you are opening it up with that option
[08:17] <ikonia> akrill: your isp may ake you off the network if you have an open dns server (just a heads up)
[08:17] <needhelpnoob> ﻿﻿im getting errors in gparted when partitioning a drive. can anyone help? i can pastebin the error log!
[08:18] <ikonia> needhelpnoob: what is the error ?
[08:18] <goofrider> can anyone help me? Whenever I try to change the samba user SID with pdbedit, I get the error "tdb_update_sam: struct samu ([username]) with no RID!
[08:18] <goofrider> "
[08:18] <mddd> does anyone know how to install nvidia drivers in ubuntu 8.10
[08:18] <knittl> hi ubunteros! i'm having a description how to connect to a vpn… but only for windows machines. can anybody help me, i can't connect (connection failed is the error message…)
[08:19] <ikonia> mddd: open thhardware drivers manager from system -> administration and enable the nvidia drivers
[08:19] <rootrot> Hi i named my computer "david keresh" and now everyuthing on it says david,how can i change this?
[08:19] <akrill> ikonia: the server is already locked down, and my ISP wont care about an open DNS server.
[08:19] <akrill> ikonia: the log is still saying recursion isnt avaiable...
[08:19] <ikonia> akrill: according to your config file it's not open
[08:19] <ikonia> akrill: according to your config file it's not locked down
[08:19] <needhelpnoob> ikonia: it puts the error in a html file. do you want me to pastebin it for you?
[08:19] <mddd> ikonia: i did ,i intalled the 177 drivers also but they don't work as when i try to use visual effects ,the message comes u can't use
[08:20] <akrill> ikonia: well, i mena the server itself is locked down tight. the only DNS traffic allowed in is coming over a secure VPN
[08:23] <ikonia> akrill: sorry - lost my connection for a moment
[08:23] <ikonia> mdeslaur: what video cad do you have
[08:23] <ikonia> needhelpnoob: just explain the problem
[08:23] <akrill> ikonia: no problem. i had said that the server itself is locked down pretty tight -- pretty much the only traffic allowed is comes over a secure vpn
[08:23] <milligan_> Anyone know of a good guide to usage of jailer from the repos ?
[08:24] <q0r3> hey all.  just did a fresh install of 8.10 a few days ago.  i have all the repos enabled, but i don't see the lamp package anywhere in synaptic.  any ideas?
[08:24] <joebodo> !nfo jailer
[08:24] <ikonia> akrill: so you now have te allow recursion option
[08:24] <joebodo> !info jailer
[08:24] <ikonia> akrill: and you have restarted bind
[08:24] <knittl> hi ubunteros! i'm having a description how to connect to a vpn… but only for windows machines. can anybody help me, i can't connect (connection failed is the error message…)
[08:24] <needhelpnoob> ikonia: i try partitioning my drive. halfway through the process it comes up with an error. the error isnt described, only that it has been posted in a file on my root folder. i can pastebin the contents of the log for you?
[08:24] <needhelpnoob> ikonia: also im using gparted
[08:24] <akrill> ikonia: yup. and its still saying recursion isnt available in the log
[08:24] <ikonia> needhelpnoob: ok
[08:25] <ikonia> akrill: show me your updated file please.
[08:25] <needhelpnoob> ikonia: http://pastebin.com/m7d008d1
[08:26] <q0r3> ...anyone know what happened to the LAMP package in synaptic?
[08:26] <ikonia> needhelpnoob: the error is clear. " #
[08:26] <ikonia> The NTFS journal file is unclean. Please shutdown Windows properly before
[08:26] <ikonia> #
[08:26] <ikonia> using this software!
[08:26] <FloodBot2> ikonia: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:26] <ikonia> needhelpnoob: your disk is "dirty" your not in a good sitatuion
[08:26] <akrill> ikonia: actually hang on just one sec i think i have an idea
[08:26] <needhelpnoob> ikonia: :S
[08:27] <needhelpnoob> ikonia: what would you suggest?
[08:27] <ikonia> needhelpnoob: you need to boot into windows and run chkdisk - but as you don't have windows thats an issue
[08:27] <ikonia> akrill: no problem
[08:27] <ikonia> needhelpnoob: my suggestion is to install ubuntu properly, not using in my opinion bad/pointless technologies like wubi
[08:27] <paul68> rdw200169_:  are you still present?
[08:28] <needhelpnoob> ikonia: yep. also i tried installing windows onto that partition. it runs chdisk but freezes at 20% for a long time. should i leave that running/will it finish checking the disk?
[08:28] <ikonia> needhelpnoob: depends on the state of your disk
[08:28] <needhelpnoob> ikonia: i tried installling ubuntu from livecd. on the partition part of install it gives me an error saying partition is too small.. even tho i set it to use free space (200gb+)
[08:29] <ikonia> needhelpnoob: free space - is not unallocated
[08:29] <test124> test
[08:29] <ikonia> needhelpnoob: from what you have said you have %100 allocated space
[08:29] <try2free> where to get printer driver for epson lq 2180?
[08:29] <needhelpnoob> ikonia: so the partitioner wont automatically resize the partition and use the free space?
[08:30] <ikonia> needhelpnoob: you have no free space
[08:30] <ikonia> needhelpnoob: your space is %100 allocated
[08:30] <needhelpnoob> ikonia: :S
[08:30] <ikonia> needhelpnoob: delete the partition
[08:31] <needhelpnoob> ikonia: im trying to avoid that since i have a lot of valuable stuff stored on it. with no space to back it up on my other drives
[08:31] <ikonia> needhelpnoob: your out of luck then
[08:31] <needhelpnoob> ikonia: if i could just burn gparted live cd from ubuntu live cd...
[08:31] <ikonia> needhelpnoob: you can't
[08:31] <Mba7eth> how can i test if my firewall is dropping my packets ?
[08:31] <ikonia> needhelpnoob: you have %100 allocated space and a dirty ntfs disk
[08:32] <akrill> ikonia: so its doing the recursive query if i query from localhost but not if i query from a host on the VPN
[08:32] <goofrider> anyone can help me with samb pdbedit to change sid?
[08:32] <akrill> ikonia: so im guessing i have to explicitly allow recursive queries from those hosts?
[08:32] <ikonia> akrill: ahhh so you need to set some poicies I'm guessing to open it up more
[08:32] <ikonia> akrill: although from your config it looks quite open
[08:33] <bluefoxx> hiya. i have a screen res problem here. i just installed Ibex on my tecra 8200, after tiring of windows screwing my schoolwork up. problem here is, though everything runs nice enough, x shows up in 800x600 oon a 1024x768 native screen, with no option to go higher. the internal adaptor is a trident cyberblade xp if that helps any
[08:33] <bluefoxx> now in the past i would have edited xorg.conf but as i hear it, we obliterated the need for that somehow
[08:33] <bluefoxx> anyone here able to help out ?
[08:33] <Frogzoo> Mba7eth: iptables -L -v
[08:34] <ziroday> bluefoxx: editing the xorg.conf works. Tried installing the trident drivers?
[08:34] <BlackDex> Distro: Ubuntu 8.10 (Intrepid). I have a 24" monitor which supports a resolution of 1920x1200, but i can't select this resolution. A friend of mine has exact the same monitor, and the same distro, and the same desktop computer, and it works like a charm on his computer. The only difference is that he installed ubuntu after the 24" monitor was connected, and i had ubuntu already installed before. I have tried to change the xorg.conf but no
[08:34] <BlackDex> success.
[08:34] <BlackDex> I googled also, but all speak about editing the xorg.conf. What can i do to fix this? Thx in advance
[08:34] <Mba7eth> Frogzoo: thanks alot :)
[08:34] <ziroday> BlackDex: tried copying and using his xorg.conf?
[08:35] <test124> bluefoxx: maybe u can try "Xorg -configure" to automate the xorg.conf, just need to replace /etc/X11/xorg.conf (after backup) with the recently created.
[08:35] <needhelpnoob> ikonia: this is what im looking at atm: http://img259.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotqp6.png
[08:35] <bluefoxx> ziroday, is that nessiciary>? i thought trident was kind of dead, and drivers were too
[08:35] <bluefoxx> test124, xorg.conf is still around than?
[08:35] <BlackDex> ziroday: he has the same xorg.conf :S
[08:35] <ziroday> bluefoxx: believe so about the drivers. What drivers do you normally use?
[08:35] <ziroday> BlackDex: does the issue happen on a livecd?
[08:36] <ikonia> needhelpnoob: how does that change anything from what I've said ?
[08:36] <BlackDex> nope
[08:36] <ziroday> bluefoxx: you might want to read this as well http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-763964.html
[08:36] <test124> bluefoxx: "Xorg -configure" does create a xorg.conf in local dir. this needs to be moved in the standard /etc/... thing. at least worth a try
[08:36] <needhelpnoob> ikonia: lol ok
[08:36] <akrill> ikonia: hmmm how would i set up a policy that would allow recursion for 10.1.0.0/16?
[08:36] <bluefoxx> ziroday, the default ones here, my laptops generally have not got a nvidia/ati gpu in them
[08:36] <needhelpnoob> ikonia: sorry to repeat... but that means i cant continue from that step?
[08:36] <ikonia> akrill: hang on I'll pastebin my own config - I'm using views so that may give you a clue
[08:37] <mddd> hey i was able to install the nvidia drivers ,thanx ikonia
[08:37] <ikonia> needhelpnoob: you are locked in your istuation
[08:37] <ziroday> bluefoxx: okay, right well it sounds like you have done this before? You can use the same settings in xorg.conf just fine
[08:37] <mddd> i just needed to restart
[08:37] <akrill> ikonia: ok, cool.
[08:37] <ditch64> !grub
[08:37] <bluefoxx> ziroday, i have edited my xorg.conf in the past, but that was between 7.04 and 8.04
[08:38] <ziroday> bluefoxx: looked under System > Administration > Hardware Drivers and System > Preferences > Screen Resolution?
[08:38] <bluefoxx> ziroday, and it always had all the parts done already
[08:38] <ikonia> akrill: it will be a bit over the top - but shows you how to use the acl's
[08:38] <ziroday> bluefoxx: what edits would you make?
[08:38] <bluefoxx> ziroday, first thing i did
[08:38] <bluefoxx> ziroday, mostly things under a pre-made 'screens' and 'monitors' sections
[08:39] <BigMike> .
[08:39] <r3c0n> please can anyone tell me how to increase the log level so i get a better understanding of whats going on with amavis and spamassasin?
[08:39] <bluefoxx> ziroday, change the default/capable resolutions
[08:39] <ziroday> bluefoxx: well you can still edit xorg.conf with those changes you used to make and it will work just fine
[08:39] <bluefoxx> oh?
[08:39] <ziroday> bluefoxx: yep
[08:39] <r3c0n> log level "depth"
[08:39] <Mba7eth> if a linksys router is filtering port 80 .... is it possible for some packets to pass thru ? - if high traffic is passing at the same time ?
[08:39] <mddd> can some please tell me the best screen recorder for ubuntu which is free
[08:39] <BigMike> ????why I am getting so many upgrades for ubuntu with KDE desktop installed???? Is there really that many at this time all at once????
[08:40] <bluefoxx> ziroday, xorg -configure?
[08:40] <bazhang> !screencast | mddd
[08:40] <ziroday> bluefoxx: eh?
[08:40] <bluefoxx> is that the command to run?
[08:40] <ziroday> BigMike: they are security and reliability updates
[08:40] <mddd> bazhang:is screencast the best one? i
[08:40] <ikonia> akrill: http://paste.ubuntu.com/71274/
[08:40] <ziroday> bluefoxx: sorry, you want to edit your xorg.conf manually. Correct?
[08:40] <Frogzoo> BigMike: ubuntu often spams updates shortly after release
[08:40] <ziroday> !best > mddd
[08:41] <bluefoxx> ziroday, yes, but it is empty.
[08:41] <ziroday> mddd: and I would recomend gtk-recordmydesktop
[08:41] <akrill> ikonia: awesome. thanks
[08:41] <test124> bluefoxx: "Xorg -configure" after an X kill (ctrl+backspace, ATTENTION! irc iwll quit ;)) then copy to /etc/X11/xorg.conf the created file
[08:41] <BigMike> ok ty I am just afraid to get version 8  is all it wont run on my laptop
[08:41] <ikonia> akrill: I've removed my public ip's and replaced with "public_ip" where one should be,just fyi
[08:41] <test124> bluefoxx: but backup the old xorg.conf before
[08:41] <bluefoxx> ziroday, let me log on to freenode on my desktop than > >
[08:41] <mddd> ok i will try both
[08:41] <mddd> thanx
[08:41] <ziroday> bluefoxx: it should not be empty, how are you opening it?
[08:41] <bluefoxx> test124, it's blank
[08:41] <akrill> ikonia: i figured.
[08:41] <bluefoxx> it exists, but is utterly blank
[08:42] <test124> bluefoxx: hehe ah yeah. well try "Xorg -configure while X is killed (ctrl backspace)" and there should be more content than after a live cd instal
[08:42] <test124> bluefoxx: at leats it was for me :p
[08:42] <ziroday> bluefoxx: okay, that really shouldn't be. You sure you have the file location correct /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:42] <marko-_--> how can i play .ria files in ubuntu ?
[08:42] <akrill> ikonia: bingo! had to use allow-query along with recursion yes
[08:42] <akrill> ikonia: thanks :-)
[08:42] <bluefoxx> yes
[08:43] <bluefoxx> even /exec cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf did nothing
[08:43] <ikonia> akrill: no problem
[08:43] <ikonia> akrill: some of the error messages can be a little confusing
[08:43] <gaintsura> David Allen Greer (Chocolate News) is doin this white woman with black baby skit, and the babys name is ubuntu =D lol
[08:43] <ziroday> bluefoxx: that is most odd. You can try the recover xorg (or something similar) in the recovery area
[08:43] <Flannel> gaintsura: #ubuntu-offtopic, not here, thanks.
[08:43] <akrill> ikonia:  indeed  o.o i really appreciate the help :-)
[08:43] <ikonia> akrill: not a problem
[08:44] <bluefoxx> like i said, gotta switch to my desktop
[08:44] <test124> bluefoxx: as said. give it a try. kill X (ctrl backspace), type "Xorg -configure" and see if the newly created xorg.conf.blablabla has content. ;)
[08:44] <gaintsura> my bad =X
[08:44] <ziroday> marko-_--: can they open in inkscape or gimp?
[08:44] <bluefoxx_> heh, silly me, used pass from another network
[08:46] <drumstyk1> could someone help me find a good program that would reformat an avi movie for playing on my 320x320 cell phone screen?
[08:46] <ziroday> drumstyk1: try using avidemux
[08:47] <knittl> hi ubunteros! i'm having a description how to connect to a vpn… but only for windows machines. can anybody help me, i can't connect (connection failed is the error message…)
[08:47] <ikonia> drumstyk1: mencoder is good
[08:47] <drumstyk1> are either one of those noob friendly? aka have a gui? :)
[08:48] <bluefoxx> ziroday; can't kill xorg, only restarts
[08:48] <bluefoxx> even a kill -9
[08:48] <test124> bluefoxx: sudo killall gdm
[08:48] <bluefoxx> test124; ty
[08:48] <metrick> how do i make a mounted fat32 drive mountable?
[08:48] <ditch64> "hd0,0" means what? HD 1 partition 0?
[08:49] <ziroday> ditch64: correct
[08:49] <kanhiya78> hello everyone
[08:49] <ditch64> kanhiya78: so if windows is on partition 3 i have to tell it hd0,3?
[08:49] <metrick> i know with ext3 its like chmod 777, right? but what about for fat32 because i cant write any files to it
[08:49] <grep65535> ditch64: hd(0,2)
[08:49] <bluefoxx> ziroday; test124; Got it so far, will let you know if it works from here(if you want) thanks for all the help ^_^
[08:50] <ditch64> grep65535: thank you
[08:50] <sken> hello
[08:50] <test124> bluefoxx: good ;)
[08:50] <fosco_> metrick: make a mounted drive mountable? it has no sense :-?
[08:50] <grep65535> ditch64: 0 = partition 1, 1 = partition 2, etc
[08:50] <test124> does anybody know how to disassemble the mbr "dd if=/dev/hda of=... count=1" first 512 bytes? objdump wont recognize it as valid input.
[08:50] <metrick> lol,
[08:50] <sken> what are the packages that are being download when i write sudo apt-get update
[08:50] <sken> ?
[08:50] <grep65535> metrick: if it's mounted, the it's already.. mountable right?
[08:50] <bluefoxx> oog...now to hackup the xorg.conf file > >
[08:50] <metrick> lol let me reword
[08:50] <ditch64> grep65535: so dev/sda3 means partition 3?
[08:51] <ditch64> but partition 3 =2
[08:51] <ziroday> sken: they are basically lists of the packages that the server has and some other info
[08:51] <test124> bluefoxx: does it have content now?
[08:51] <marko-_--> ziroday, .ria files are video files it means Rich Internet Application
[08:51] <bluefoxx> test124; yes, but not all that i can work off of
[08:51] <kanhiya78> i am using ubuntu 8.10 and everytime when it comes out from sleep  i found it hanged and i have to do emergency shutdown
[08:51] <kanhiya78> is it a BUG
[08:51] <bluefoxx> anyone willing to share a xorg.conf that has a LCD defaulting to 1024x768@60Hz?
[08:51] <grep65535> dich64: /dev/sda3 = partition 3
[08:51] <kanhiya78> and how to report it
[08:52] <ziroday> marko-_--: really? http://filext.com/file-extension/RIA says different. Where did you get it from?
[08:52] <test124> bluefoxx: with the newly created xorg.conf u could try resolution manager! it should give more options to u.
[08:52] <metrick> second hard drive mounted, finally, but when i have it formatted to fat32 [the partition] i cant copy anyfiles onto the drive
[08:52] <marko-_--> ziroday, from mininova i downloaded some guitar lesson videos and the readme file says i should install RiffWorkspace.msi
[08:52] <metrick> but when i have the drive formatted to ext3 i can copy files onto it
[08:52] <metrick> better?
[08:52] <metrick> =]
[08:52] <ditch64> grep65535: thank you i got it working
[08:52] <bluefoxx> test124; is taht an extra i need to isntall or is that the default one?
[08:52] <sken> so can i update the pc by this command? ziroday
[08:53] <kanhiya78> i am using ubuntu 8.10 and everytime when it comes out from sleep  i found it hanged and i have to do emergency shutdown
[08:53] <kanhiya78> is it a ug
[08:53] <BigMike> ????Anyone know how long this upgrade for gutsy will take??? I am using cable seems to be stalling on file 4 and telling me 88 days :)
[08:53] <kanhiya78> sorry bug
[08:53] <ziroday> sken: that finds all the upgrades. To upgrade the actual pc do sudo apt-get upgrade
[08:53] <test124> bluefoxx: the default one should now give more options IF the newly createdt xorg.conf is placed in /etc/X11/xorg.conf. at least it was for me.
[08:53] <ziroday> BigMike: it depends on too many factors and is near impossible to predict
[08:54] <BigMike> ok can I select a few files for each day?
[08:54] <mddd> can any one help me : my ntfs drives of windows and data drive are not being displayed in ubuntu
[08:54] <kanhiya78> did anyone face such type of problem like me
[08:54] <ziroday> marko-_--: from their website: # Microsoft Windows XP, 2000, or Vista (not available for Mac or Linux)
[08:54] <kanhiya78> like system hangs after coming out of slleep
[08:54] <marko-_--> yea i know :(
[08:55] <ziroday> marko-_--: so thats a no :)
[08:55] <metrick> kanhiya78: that happened to me a little while ago, i had to reinstall then it started to work, i dont know what the problem is tho
[08:55] <marko-_--> but i thought maybe there's an application on linux that runs .rif files ...
[08:56] <kanhiya78> i installed it inside windows and i had to reinstall all the packages
[08:56] <metrick> is anyone here good with hard drive mounting, formatting, and such?
[08:56] <ziroday> marko-_--: it would seem not
[08:56] <mddd> why are my other partitions of my drive not being displayed ,they are in ntfs format
[08:56] <marko-_--> .ria... what a stupid format
[08:56] <BigMike> hard to do I would have to unselect almost 500 upgrades a day :)
[08:56] <BulBulRed> mddd: you need to install a package for this: ntfs-config. Install this by (sudo apt-get install ntfs-config) and then run it (sudo ntfs-config OR menu): enable read and write support
[08:57] <metrick> T_T
[08:57] <kanhiya78> how to add all the packages in APTONCD
[08:57] <mddd> thanx bulbulred ,how di i enable read and write support
[08:57] <BulBulRed> mddd: by checking the checkboxes for this in the ntfs-config dialog
[08:57] <dirtyhawk> metrick: what's the problem?
[08:58] <kanhiya78> how to use APTONCD
[08:58] <gunnarahlberg> can someone help me with my messed up xorg.conf? I'm on a Lenovo T61 and got problems after upgrading 8.04->8.10
[08:58] <mddd> ok thanx bulbulred
[08:58] <gunnarahlberg> the screen goes blank on reboot
[08:58] <fosco_> metrick: add umask=000 to its fstab line
[08:58] <kanhiya78> i am going to stop my internet connection after two weeks
[08:58] <dal_home> hey all, I have two machines running kubuntu, both running programs that output sound. rather than hook up a pair of speakers to each computer I was hoping to be able to forward the sound from one machine over the network to the other and just use one set of speakers hooked up to that machine. Anyone know of a way to achieve this?
[08:58] <test124> bluefoxx: works?
[08:59] <metrick> and that will let me copy wiles to my Fat32 HDD?
[08:59] <viviersf> gunnarahlberg, press control + alt + F1 , log in, type : sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:59] <kanhiya78> and if i need to reinstall ubuntu ; how to use aptoncd
[09:00] <gunnarahlberg> vivierfs and then ctrl + alt + f7 to get back, right?
[09:00] <bluefoxx> test124; just rebooted
[09:00] <ziroday> gunnarahlberg: or go to the recovery are and use the Fix xserver (or something similar) option
[09:00] <bluefoxx> nope
[09:00] <test124> bluefoxx: :/
[09:00] <bluefoxx> still only have 320x240-800x600
[09:00] <gunnarahlberg> well, I've done both options and here are the result: booting with failsafe works
[09:00] <bluefoxx> doesnt even use display streatch like it's supposed to :\
[09:01] <test124> bluefoxx: the resolution of 1024xX is mentioned in the new xorg.conf?
[09:01] <Kartagis> do i need wpa_supplicant to be able to load wireless certificate into ubuntu?
[09:01] <bluefoxx> no
[09:01] <bluefoxx> i dont recall how to make it do that
[09:02] <test124> bluefoxx: then my chinese is over. ;) at last i would try "man xorg.conf" and would input my custom resoltion manually to xorg.conf. if this doesnt work, idt try to look if its some driver thingie. maybe as a first hint for going further... ;)
[09:02] <kanhiya78> i want to install all packages on my friend computer
[09:02] <bluefoxx> > >
[09:03] <kanhiya78> he has no working internet connection
[09:03] <test124> bluefoxx: but at least u got some content now  :D
[09:03] <bluefoxx> tahts why i asked if anyone had the screens/monitor section of a xorg.conf defaulting to 1024x768@60 to share...
[09:03] <kanhiya78> and how to install all packages from my computer to his computer using aptoncd
[09:03] <lassesandberg> hello ppl, i have a problem mounting a dvd, i got ubuntu 7.10. its a 7.7gb dvd and i think its in udf format. anyway it mounts somewhat okay, but when i take propeties on it, it says under contents : 2 items, totalling 1.3 mb(some contents unreadable). and below it says 7.7gb used.. and inside the dvd i only see a few of the files meant to be there :O do i need some special drivers or something for big dvds? normal ones work fine, and this on
[09:03] <gunnarahlberg> ziroday: thank you, i've got some more now - the problem is in the nvidia driver. now if I only new which nvidia driver to re-install, I'd be really happy
[09:04] <ziroday> bluefoxx: do you have the xserver-xorg-video-trident package installed and have you selected trident as your driver?
[09:04] <ziroday> gunnarahlberg: what card?
[09:04] <bluefoxx> ziroday; not sure
[09:04] <bluefoxx> i *just* installed
[09:04] <gunnarahlberg> ziroday: dunno, how do I find out?
[09:04] <ziroday> bluefoxx: well can you try install that package
[09:04] <bluefoxx> and besides setting a root password and changin the theme
[09:04] <bluefoxx> this is the first thing i decidede to tackle
[09:04] <ziroday> gunnarahlberg: what does lspci | grep -e vga say?
[09:04] <Kartagis> do i need wpa_supplicant to be able to load wireless certificate into ubuntu?
[09:04] <bluefoxx> cause i cant work with anything under 1024 efficiently i find
[09:05] <ziroday> bluefoxx: did you install the package I asked you to?
[09:05] <kanhiya78> can no one here does not know how to use apt on cd
[09:05] <gunnarahlberg> ziroday: ah, that says nothing as I'm in failsafe without nvidia right now. That's the only way to get X up :(
[09:05] <bluefoxx> ziroday; about to check
[09:05] <ziroday> gunnarahlberg: it will still say something even if you are in failsafe
[09:06] <test124> bluefoxx: try ziros hint. if that doesnt work, try in xorg.conf WITHIN '   Section "Screen"  '  the following '    SubSection "Display" (NEWLINE) Virtual 1024 768 (NEWLINE) EndSubSection    '
[09:06] <bluefoxx> ziroday; installing now...'
[09:06] <Viper111> plz help
[09:06] <bobslaede> my boss is trying to make me switch to vista, what should i tell him? :)
[09:06] <ziroday> gunnarahlberg: sorry correction lspci | grep VGA
[09:06] <gunnarahlberg> ziroday: much better - 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation Quadro NVS 140M (rev a1)
[09:06] <Viper111> i need help my server is restarting alone its runing into runlevel 6 anybody can help
[09:06] <ziroday> gunnarahlberg: ooh thats an odd looking one, gimme a sec
[09:06] <kanhiya78> bobslaede: give him a cup of tea and show features of ubuntu:-D
[09:07] <grep65535> bobslaede, his return on investment will be low
[09:07] <gunnarahlberg> ziroday: thank you!
[09:07] <bobslaede> he knows ubuntu, its a active directeory, security all-alike thing
[09:07] <bluefoxx> out of curiosity(as i'm purchasing one soon, if i have cash) has anyone had luck with IBM thinkpad T42+Ibex? and if so, how was it?
[09:07] <bobslaede> how, cant spell
[09:07] <bobslaede> wow
[09:07] <bobslaede> hah
[09:08] <bluefoxx> test124; ziroday; the package didnt fix it
[09:08] <grep65535> bobslaede, i've seen ppl with ubuntu working well with AD, just takes reading
[09:08] <rdw200169_> paul68: yeah, i thought i was going to bed, but then the #ubuntu chatroom on HanIRC sucked me in ;)
[09:08] <bluefoxx> i will try the before option
[09:08] <gunnarahlberg> ziroday: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/NVidia_Quadro_NVS_140m ?
[09:08] <ziroday> bluefoxx: check out www.thinkwiki.com there's great linux help there for thinkpads. Did you select trident to be used by xorg?
[09:08] <gunnarahlberg> ziroday: not really sure what it's telling me though
[09:08] <bluefoxx> ziroday; hows that?
[09:08] <ziroday> gunnarahlberg: gimme a sec :)
[09:09] <gunnarahlberg> ziroday: ok :)
[09:09] <bobslaede> grep65535: yeah, i've read about it, but i'm not sure if it works with windows server 2007, or 8 or whatever its called
[09:09] <try2free> how customizing a paper setting for a printer?
[09:09] <test124> bluefoxx: try "Xorg -configure" again, ghe cud now include the driver autom to xorg.conf
[09:09] <ziroday> bluefoxx: well what does the Driver "something" line say?
[09:10] <paul68> rdw200169_:  just a quick question if I add a accespoint to my second nic of the server then I don't get into trouble with nat translation or am I wrong?
[09:10] <ziroday> gunnarahlberg: sure, according to there you can either use the NV (opensource driver) or the NVIDIA (propriatery driver)
[09:10] <bluefoxx> heh...crashed it >.
[09:10] <ziroday> gunnarahlberg: if you go for nvidia you will want the -177 one
[09:10] <babo> how do i connect to wireless with ubuntu ?
[09:10] <bluefoxx> and oh wow, reisub shows a bluescreen
[09:10] <rdw200169_> paul68: no, the best way to prevent problems is to bridge the lan interfaces
[09:10] <kanhiya78> i have sis graphics card and i do not know it is supported by ubuntu or not because i am not able to get higher resolution than 800x600
[09:10] <gunnarahlberg> ziroday: thank you so much!
[09:10] <rdw200169_> paul68: that's what i always to
[09:11] <rdw200169_> paul68: so there's always one path, according to iproute2 and iptables, for lan-wan wan-lan
[09:11] <paul68> rdw200169_: how does that work?
[09:11] <kanhiya78> here is my output from terminal       compatible controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 771/671 PCIE VGA Display Adapter (rev 10)
[09:11] <paul68> rdw200169_: ok
[09:11] <bluefoxx> kanhiya78; old laptop?
[09:11] <kanhiya78> no
[09:11] <rdw200169_> paul68: it's like saying "eth0 and eth1 belong to the interface bri0"
[09:11] <bluefoxx> or just old PC?
[09:11] <kanhiya78> no
[09:12] <kanhiya78> just manufactured in march 2008
[09:12] <rdw200169_> paul68: it's like multiplexing several interfaces into one, thereby creating a bridge, or in easier terms a imaginary ethernet switch
[09:12] <paul68> rdw200169_: I see and how do I achieve this?
[09:12] <rdw200169_> paul68: comes from the old networking days when there was a distinction between a bridge and a switch
[09:12] <babo> how do i connect to wireless with ubuntu ?
[09:12] <kanhiya78> bought in june 2008
[09:12] <rdw200169_> paul68: apt-get install bridge-utils i think
[09:13] <bluefoxx> kanhiya78; oh, SIS...i was thinking S3...sorry about that. anyways, to my knowlage, you'll have to edit xorg.conf like i'm trying to figure out
[09:13] <kanhiya78> i am new to linux
[09:13] <PararaPatxin> hi kanhiya78
[09:13] <rdw200169_> paul68: there's some examples here of it's usage, http://greamin.com/server/PastWork/UbuntuGateway.html
[09:13] <givemeaname> me too kanhiya78
[09:13] <test124> bluefoxx: have u rerun "Xorg -configure" with the newly drivers installed? does xorg.conf have the new driver in it?
[09:13] <rdw200169_> paul68: it's the brctl lines, (bridge control)
[09:13] <kanhiya78> PararaPatxin:  hi
[09:14] <kanhiya78> givemeaname: oh you are also kanhiya78
[09:14] <bluefoxx> test124; it shows VendowName   "Trident Microsystems" under "Device" section
[09:14] <paul68> rdw200169_: ok you are just a walking server encyclopedia :-)
[09:14] <rdw200169_> paul68: then, once you have a bridge interface, use it as your lan interface
[09:15] <rdw200169_> paul68: sweet!
[09:15] <givemeaname> kanhiya78, no i mean i'm new to linuz too
[09:15] <test124> bluefoxx: and does it have some 1024xX content too?
[09:15] <selinuxium> hi all, how can I see what a printer is up to via cli?
[09:15] <givemeaname> so new i can't spell it right
[09:15] <bluefoxx> test124; under this it also has BoardName "SyberBlade/XP"
[09:15] <ct529> hi! If you have a deb package, how do you get information on the compilation flags? I have read the manual pages but did not find the information ....
[09:15] <Frogzoo> selinuxium: lpq -q
[09:15] <Frogzoo> selinuxium: lpq -a
[09:15] <bluefoxx> test124;  it however, contains *nothing* about any specific resolutions...
[09:16] <kanhiya78> givemeaname:  are you happy with linux
[09:16] <test124> bluefoxx: ok if it now has trident which it didnt have before maybe u should tryy the newly xoerg.conf again and try the gnome resoution setting thingie
[09:16] <bluefoxx> graphics seem very finicky on linux...i once booted a p3 450+tnt2 and a 14" CRT and got 1600x1200
[09:16] <test124> :D
[09:16] <rdw200169_> paul68: now, when google crawls the irc logs of this chat, it'll come up with that statement when i google rdw200168 and encyclopedia...
[09:16] <xuan> he he he empty
[09:17] <sigizmund> bluefoxx: so how did it work? :)
[09:17] <bluefoxx> test124; that is the new xorg.conf i'm trying[i just tried to tab-complete that]
[09:17] <paul68> rdw200169_: is there somewhere a howto since I come on your firewall example
[09:17] <kanhiya78> i have just only one problem which is resolution
[09:17] <givemeaname> kanhiya78, i'm not a fan of M$ as for linux, it's an exotic beast waiting to be tamed
[09:17] <vincent> can anybody send a singularity into space please for me?
[09:17] <bluefoxx> sigizmund; the 1600x1200? very poor refresh
[09:17] <test124> bluefoxx: ok if u tried and stil there only shows 800xX in gnome resol manager... tell :p
[09:17] <PararaPatxin> I think I've found a kind of bug in Ubuntu 8.10 Desktop's MySQL Server
[09:17] <rdw200169_> paul68: i dunno, it's pretty easy to use, the comand brctl
[09:17] <sigizmund> bluefoxx: wicked :)
[09:18] <voox> what's a good panel to use with openbox?
[09:18] <Viper111> anybody knows about smoothwall
[09:18] <rdw200169_> paul68: you just create the bridge, brctl addbr bri0
[09:18] <bluefoxx> test124; i generally steal the section parts i need from pre-made xorg.conf files :\
[09:18] <kanhiya78> givemeaname:  my english is weak
[09:18] <rdw200169_> paul68: add the interfaces, brctl addif eth0
[09:18] <rdw200169_> paul68: and you're done
[09:18] <mddd> hey when i run  sudo ntfs-config dialog ,and select the ntfs partitions the apply button goes gray and can't be clicked ,why
[09:18] <rdw200169_> paul68: you can even learn more about it, by doing a brctl show
[09:19] <givemeaname> kanhiya78, what language do you speak?
[09:19] <rdw200169_> paul68: t6hen, the interface bri0 is just like any other interface
[09:19] <Iejoor> Hello. When I plug in a USB storage device, ubuntu asks what I want to do with it. If I select "always choose this option for this type of device", how/where can I change that configuration later?
[09:19] <paul68> rdw200169_: ok
[09:19] <rdw200169_> paul68: the rule of thumb is, though, to remove all the ip addresses from the attached interfaces to prevent problems
[09:19] <kanhiya78> givemeaname: hindi ,haryanvi,and english
[09:19] <test124> bluefoxx: the sense behind installing the drivers and then "Xorg -configure" is that the resolution manager may show up more available resols. but one thing u can try AFTER u tried that...
[09:19] <rdw200169_> paul68: furthermore, you should put those interfaces into promiscuous mode, so they will communicate with each other (switching...)
[09:20] <kanhiya78> givemeaname: hindi is my mothertongue
[09:20] <mddd>  hey when i run  sudo ntfs-config dialog ,and select the ntfs partitions the apply button goes gray and can't be clicked ,why
[09:20] <bluefoxx> test124; i'm about to try that codeline you gave me
[09:20] <paul68> rdw200169_:  ok now I'm lost lol
[09:20] <kanhiya78> givemeaname: i am from INDIA
[09:20] <GreeenTea> Hello, I'm a BSD user. I was curious on what Ubuntu had to offer?
[09:20] <test124> bluefoxx: see the priv dlg? i sent u excerpt
[09:20] <simon1245> Hi all
[09:20] <mddd> please can some one help me out
[09:20] <givemeaname> kanhiya78, i should i chose hindi on that rossetta stone demo lol
[09:21] <test124> agt least worht a try
[09:21] <paul68> rdw200169_: but I guess we will discuss this another day since it is already late for you
[09:21] <GreeenTea> mddd: With what, dear?
[09:21] <rdw200169_> paul68: it has to do with the kernel logic, non-promiscuous mode means that the kernel will flag strange packets, like packets that are not coming from it,
[09:21] <mddd>  hey when i run  sudo ntfs-config dialog ,and select the ntfs partitions the apply button goes gray and can't be clicked ,why
[09:21] <bluefoxx> test124; now i did
[09:21] <rdw200169_> paul68: but promiscous mode will move all traffic
[09:21] <rdw200169_> paul68: it's too late now...
[09:21] <kanhiya78> ubuntu 8.10 does not support my graphics card i think
[09:21] <paul68> rdw200169_: that's why I said we do this the next time
[09:22] <rdw200169_> paul68: regardless, the most important thing about the brige concept, is making sure to change all your references to the old lan interface to the bridge interface
[09:22] <rdw200169_> paul68: like i said, it's too late for me to sleep...
[09:22] <uc4y> hi
[09:22] <kanhiya78> because when i install it on my friend computer it works fine and extra effects also enabled
[09:23] <paul68> rdw200169_: so you are going to do a 24 hour straight sorry about that
[09:23] <kanhiya78> in 8.04 it was not supporting my sound card
[09:23] <rdw200169_> paul68: it's not you, it's the other channel, i got sucked into a korean conversation, in a korean chatroom
[09:23] <voox> how do i set pypanel to start at boot with openbox?
[09:23] <kanhiya78> i think i have to wait for 9.04 to support my graphics card
[09:24] <rdw200169_> kanhiya78: what do you have?
[09:24] <kanhiya78> i HAVE LAPTOP
[09:24] <paul68> rdw200169_: this means that if I understand you correctly I have to bridge the router before my server with eth0 and that I have to bridge eth1 with the switch behind it
[09:24] <rdw200169_> kanhiya78: no need to yell... i mean what video card?
[09:24] <kanhiya78> rdw200169_: A compatible controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 771/671 PCIE VGA Display Adapter (rev 10)
[09:25] <gammy> Dude are you kidding me? launchpad can't track your bloody subscribed bug threads?!?!
[09:25] <rdw200169_> kanhiya78: and it doesn't work at all?
[09:25] <mddd> ok i got it
[09:25] <uc4y> halo
[09:25] <kanhiya78> no maximum resolution here available 800x600
[09:25] <uc4y> hoey
[09:26] <TB`> Hi katherine
[09:26] <rdw200169_> paul68: oh man, at this point, a picture or flow chart would be helpful...
[09:26] <paul68> rdw200169_: ok
[09:26] <rdw200169_> kanhiya78: but you do have working video, right?
[09:26] <kanhiya78> rdw200169_: my laptop is able to have 1200x--
[09:26] <mddd> stupid question ,but how can i increase the number of workspace(desktops) from 2 to 4
[09:26] <kanhiya78> rdw200169_: yes i can play video
[09:27] <rdw200169_> kanhiya78: you *might* have to specify those resolutions, or that resolution, in a xorg.conf file...
[09:27] <needhelpnoob> hi
[09:27] <kanhiya78> rdw200169_: but i wnt little high resoulutionm
[09:27] <rdw200169_> kanhiya78: in order to force the x server to support them
[09:27] <needhelpnoob> ikonia
[09:27] <sansiro> ciao
[09:27] <needhelpnoob> are you still around to help?
[09:27] <kanhiya78> rdw200169_: i am new to linux how to configure
[09:28] <rdw200169_> kanhiya78: that's what i'm talking about, for some reason, X.org is detecting *some* resolutions, but not all of them...
[09:28] <TB`> Where can I buy Ubuntu?
[09:28] <TB`> Sorry I am new
[09:28] <mddd> how can i increase the number of desktops from 2 to 4
[09:28] <Frogzoo> TB`: you have to d/l the warez version
[09:28] <rdw200169_> TB` ubuntu is free!
[09:28] <test124> Frogzoo: :D
[09:28] <TB`> The warez release? From torrents surely?
[09:28] <rdw200169_> TB` don't listen to Frogzoo...
[09:28] <test124> got a working serial for ubuntu? ;)
[09:28] <kanhiya78> it may be
[09:28] <laobing> #ubuntu-cn
[09:29] <TB`> I will search torrent sites for it - what version is the latest?
[09:29] <TB`> When is 8.04 out
[09:29] <test124> eeeh...
[09:29] <kanhiya78> rdw200169_: how to force to detect all possible resolutions
[09:29] <sansiro> ho bisogno di aiuto ho installato wine e adesso ho le finestre tutte bianche
[09:29] <rdw200169_> TB`... seriously, it's free
[09:29] <mddd> how can i increase the number of desktops from 2 to 4
[09:29] <TB`> Don't try and scam me rdw200169_ - I know your kind
[09:29] <rdw200169_> kanhiya78: that's not really possible, as far as i know
[09:29] <TB`> Just want to buy a legit version
[09:29] <abe3k> hi guys, I want to make an .sh file that will run a command every 2 seconds . can any one help me please ?
[09:29] <rdw200169_> TB` are you crazy? just go to ubuntu.com, and download it
[09:29] <mddd> how can i increase the number of desktops from 2 to 4
[09:30] <TB`> Ok, queers
[09:30] <needhelpnoob> lol nice trolling TB
[09:30] <paul68> rdw200169_: current layout is like this isp => first router => server (2nics) => second router with wifi
[09:30] <test124> u can download it legit way :p
[09:30] <TB`> Rofl
[09:30] <mddd> how can i increase the number of desktops from 2 to 4
[09:30] <kanhiya78> rdw200169_: is there any chance 8.10LTS  will solvethisproblem
[09:30] <TB`> It's fun to come in here for a laugh
[09:30] <test124> it smells fishy
[09:30] <bluefoxx_> i smell a kick?
[09:30] <rdw200169_> TB`: why don't you go bother some other channel
[09:30] <TB`> Because this one is the best
[09:30] <mddd> can some one please help me
[09:31] <TB`> I was looking for kate` but she is away
[09:31] <abe3k> can any one help me make an .sh file with an infinite loop that will repeat itself every 2 seconds ?
[09:31] <rdw200169_> kanhiya78: it's possible
[09:31] <gammy> abe3k: How does it repeat if it's infinate?
[09:31] <rdw200169_> kanhiya78: i don't know though, i haven't upgraded yet
[09:31] <dirtyhawk> TB`: try "sudo apt-get install kate"
[09:31] <Frogzoo> abe3k: while true; do blah ; done
[09:31] <gabbler> hi does anyone know if 8.10 desktop supports lvm
[09:31] <mddd> how can i increase the number of desktops from 2 to 4
[09:31] <rdw200169_> abe3k: that's easy, just put in a sleep line
[09:31] <ghaleb> hello, I have this simple python script to add users to ldap, but the command printed into two lines http://rafb.net/p/xYgiNF11.html
[09:31] <abe3k> Frogzoo : but how do I make a delay for 2 seconds inside the loop ?
[09:31] <gammy> mddd: right-click on the window selection applet thingy and set the number of rows/cols.
[09:31] <mddd> how can i increase the number of desktops from 2 to 4
[09:32] <TB`> Head developer of Ubuntu has given me alpha release of Ubuntu 9.0
[09:32] <fosco_> mddd: it depends on the window manager
[09:32] <abe3k> ok ok sleep :P
[09:32] <kanhiya78> rdw200169_: so i am just waiting for 8.10 LTS but i have upgraded to 8.10 intrepid
[09:32] <rdw200169_> abe3k: on the command line, try this 'sleep 2'
[09:32] <Frogzoo> abe3k: actually, no I'm not doing your homework :P
[09:32] <gammy> mddd: (Presuming you're using default settings in gnome)
[09:32] <dirtyhawk> abe3k: try the command "sleep 2"?
[09:32] <mddd> yes i am
[09:32] <rdw200169_> kanhiya78: there will never be an LTS 8.10
[09:32] <ghaleb> mddd: just right click and preferences
[09:32] <mddd> yeah i got it
[09:32] <mddd> thanx
 its not a homework its just somethiing I want to make :P
[09:32] <grep65535> TB`, yea well I've got the pre-alpha to Linux 2.8
[09:32] <rdw200169_> kanhiya78: the last LTS was 8.04, and the next won't be for a while
[09:32] <kanhiya78> rdw200169_: i do not understand
[09:32] <Gr3yW0lf> how come ubuntu 8.04 is using a sd driver and naming my pata disks as sda, sdb etc etc .... i also see this using hdparm:  IO_support    =  0 (default) 16-bit) ::  HDIO_GET_DMA failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device ???
[09:32] <TB`> Whoop de fucking do grep65535 - have a cookie
[09:33] <grep65535> ;-)
[09:33] <gammy> abe3k: while true; do echo "something"; sleep 2; done
[09:33] <gammy> abe3k: :P
[09:33] <TB`> This channel is lamer than I thought
[09:33] <TB`> I'm out
[09:33] <abe3k> thanks guys, I'll give it a try
[09:33] <Ruge> hey guys, im using an old lapto here, reckons its feasable to use an old ubuntu install (FiestyFawn) since my lapo is old as it is?
[09:33] <[mbm]> Gr3yW0lf: with libata everything is a sd* device
[09:33] <needhelpnoob> how do i list all the hard disk drives on my computer?
[09:34] <fosco_> needhelpnoob: sudo fdisk -l
[09:34] <gammy> Ruge: It should work with the lastest release. Preferably using something other than gnome though.
[09:34] <paul68> rdw200169_: current layout is like this isp => first router => server (2nics) => second router with wifi
[09:34] <needhelpnoob> thx fosco_
[09:34] <rdw200169_> !LTS
[09:34] <rdw200169_> kanhiya78: LTS versions of ubuntu only come out every couple years
[09:34] <test124> still anybody knows how to disassemble the MBR "dd if=/dev/hda of=./a ...", while objdump doesnt recogn it as valid fformat?
[09:34] <kanhiya78> rdw200169_: i used 8.04 for three days only
[09:34] <Gr3yW0lf> mbm, how come dma is not working, it used to work... i'm getting real slow performance off this disk, users complaining that ubuntu is slow!! :/
[09:34] <Ruge> Yeah, its just at the moment im on a terrible net connection, and this 7.04 disc is sitting here in front of me, so was thinking of installing tonight to see what its like
[09:34] <AdvoWork> hmm, if i create a share on my windows box //ip/share$ and then in etc/fstab to //ip/share$ /home/myshare  cifs exec    if i copy something to /home/myshare/ will it only ever be in /home/myshare and not on my windows box? i want the windows box to have a copy of it, not just a pretend copy
[09:35] <kanhiya78> rdw200169_: than i upgraded and i am new to linux
[09:35] <rdw200169_> paul68: wow, that is a lot
[09:35] <dirtyhawk> Ruge: you probably should try the recent version (intrepid). if your laptop's really slow, try xubuntu
[09:35] <gammy> Ruge: Odds are that a more recent version will work a lot better and (of course) is safer.
[09:35] <Ruge> oh  isee
[09:35] <ct529> hi! If you have a deb package, how do you get information on the compilation flags? I have read the manual pages but did not find the information ....
[09:35] <Ruge> hmm
[09:35] <paul68> rdw200169_: sorry
[09:35] <gammy> Ruge: You could always get a minimal install?
[09:35] <kanhiya78> rdw200169_: so next version will be 9.04 right?
[09:36] <dirtyhawk> Ruge: Xubuntu uses the lightweight Xfce desktop environment instead of Gnome. runs faster on old hardware
[09:36] <rdw200169_> kanhiya78: yes
[09:36] <Ruge> oh i see
[09:36] <rdw200169_> kanhiya78: your problem is solveable, but i don't think, reluctantly, that it can be solved without doing a bit of typing... to say the least
[09:36] <gammy> Ruge: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[09:36] <Gr3yW0lf> ::/dev/sda :: Timing cached reads:     2 MB in  4.44 seconds = 461.53 kB/sec :: Timing buffered disk reads:    6 MB in  6.03 seconds = 1019.11 kB/sec ....arrrrgh! :(
[09:36] <rdw200169_> kanhiya78: b/c with 8.10, they don't use a xorg.conf file anymore, for x windows
[09:36] <Ruge> i see, thanks for that
[09:37] <kanhiya78> i rdw200169_i mean to say 8.10 intrepid is final
[09:37] <[mbm]> Gr3yW0lf: look at hdparm -I /dev/sda .. it should tell you the drive is in a udma mode
[09:37] <rdw200169_> kanhiya78: so, for you to be able to specify the higher resolutions, you would have to create a new xorg.conf file...
[09:37] <rdw200169_> kanhiya78: yes
[09:37] <kanhiya78> rdw200169_: how
[09:37] <rdw200169_> kanhiya78: albeit, not to include security and bug fix updates, etc...
[09:38] <test124> good bye :p
[09:38] <Ruge> wowsers
[09:38] <Ruge> 10MB?
[09:38] <rdw200169_> kanhiya78: before we go that far, other owners of that laptop *must* have the same problem you do, what model laptop do you have?
[09:38] <Ruge> for minimal!?
[09:38] <dirtyhawk> Ruge: or try http://xubuntu.org
[09:38] <Ruge> how is that possible!
[09:38] <kanhiya78> rdw200169_: i am updating it daily
[09:38] <rdw200169_> kanhiya78: let's see if someone else has had the same problem... this is one of the subtle benefits to owning a laptop...
[09:38] <needhelpnoob> hi can anyone help me to delete a folder. i've used sudo rm -rf and it wont let me
[09:38] <error404notfound> whenever I try to install something, I get http://pastebin.com/m1d496544, the installation completes though...
[09:38] <dirtyhawk> Ruge: well, no programs, just the kernel.
[09:38] <Ruge> i just get the drivers as i use them?
[09:39] <Ruge> ahh, i have no idea how to use the linux interface
[09:39] <Ruge> <-- n00b
[09:39] <needhelpnoob> <--- bigger noob
[09:39] <kanhiya78> rdw200169_:  yes
[09:39] <Gr3yW0lf> mbm looks like its set to udma4 but udma5 is supported according to hdparm -I (thanks for your help by the way :) :: DMA: mdma0 mdma1 mdma2 udma0 udma1 udma2 udma3 *udma4 udma5
[09:39] <needhelpnoob> ﻿hi can anyone help me to delete a folder. i've used sudo rm -rf and it wont let me
[09:39] <Ruge> im running 1GHz PIII, 256MB Ram, 32mb ATi Rage Mobility GFX, 20GB HDD (backup laptop)
[09:39] <paul68> rdw200169_: is that a problem concerning bridging or is it feasable?
[09:39] <rdw200169_> kanhiya78: so, what specific laptop do you have?
[09:40] <AdvoWork> im doing sudo mount -a and its giving me this error: mount error 11 = Resource temporarily unavailable  any ideas why?
[09:40] <kanhiya78> rdw200169_: what to tell
[09:40] <rdw200169_> paul68: so you have only 2 interfaces on the server, and they are wan/lan, right?
[09:40] <Gr3yW0lf> how to change it to udma5? how risky is that?
[09:40] <kanhiya78> rdw200169_: specifications or brand name
[09:40] <rdw200169_> kanhiya78: like, the name of the laptop from the label under neath
[09:40] <rsmith16384> can i get someone to test my ftp port forwarding?
[09:41] <rdw200169_> kanhiya78: like "acer 4866 series" or something
[09:41] <paul68> rdw200169_: yes the wan is connected to the first router the lan towards the second
[09:41] <kanhiya78> ok
[09:41] <rsmith16384> need to know if you see folders when clicking this link...
[09:41] <rdw200169_> paul68: and that's it?
[09:41] <needhelpnoob> ﻿hi can anyone help me to delete a folder. i've used sudo rm -rf and it wont let me
[09:41] <linguini> How does one disable the Network Manager managed interfaces?
[09:41] <auswald> Anyone here that can help me with my weird permissions and ownership on /media/cdrom0?
[09:41] <[mbm]> Gr3yW0lf: you can change it with hdparm's -X option but it's likely your system doesn't support it
[09:41] <kanhiya78> rdw200169_: it iS HCL K3003
[09:41] <dirtyhawk> Ruge: than Xubunut
[09:41] <rsmith16384> ftp://guest:guest@robertandkarensmith.com
[09:41] <dirtyhawk> Ruge: than Xubutu
[09:41] <needhelpnoob> ﻿hi can anyone help me to delete a folder. i've used sudo rm -rf and it wont let me
[09:42] <rdw200169_> kanhiya78: is HCL a brand name?
[09:42] <dirtyhawk> needhelpnoob: "rmdir FOLDERNAME"
[09:42] <kanhiya78> rdw200169_: yes
[09:42] <gammy> needhelpnoob: What is it telling you?
[09:42] <needhelpnoob> dirtyhawk: thanks i'll try
[09:42] <abe3k> how do I make the sh file have no output in the terminal , just like a silent mode ?
[09:42] <linguini> needhelpnoob: what does it say?
[09:42] <paul68> rdw200169_: well the current router is acting as gateway and wifi at this point and is connected to the server and then the second router Is going to be attached to the 2nd nic
[09:42] <needhelpnoob> gammy: it says operation not possible
[09:42] <kanhiya78> rdw200169_: it is biggest brand in india
[09:42] <needhelpnoob> or something similar
[09:42] <Ruge> is Xubuntu downloadable in a minimal form (so i can get drivers as I need them)?
[09:42] <gammy> abe3k: Dude aren't you even *trying* to find this on google?
[09:42] <rdw200169_> kanhiya78: ah, i see now!\
[09:42] <auswald> Anyone here that can help me with my weird permissions and ownership on /media/cdrom0?
[09:43] <dirtyhawk> Ruge: not without using a commandline shell
[09:43] <rsmith16384> can someone test my port forwarding? ftp://guest:guest@robertandkarensmith.com
[09:43] <gammy> abe3k: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prog-Intro-HOWTO-3.html
[09:44] <gammy> abe3k: Google is your friend.
[09:44] <kanhiya78> rdw200169_: i also contact with hcl but they give me clear answer that no support for linux
[09:44] <needhelpnoob> gammy: this is what happens rm: cannot remove directory `/media/sdb1/aaaaaa/Templates': Operation not supported
[09:44] <atax> Hi all, when changing directories in Nautilus for example from /usr to /usr/bin, it takes Nautilus approx 40 seconds, before displaying the directory content (my pc is 2 months old, running Ubuntu 8.10). Any ideas?
[09:45] <gammy> needhelpnoob: Is the device read-only?
[09:45] <Freku> seems to work
[09:45] <rdw200169_> kanhiya78: yeah, ubuntu forums, reluctantly, comes up completely dry
[09:45] <paul68> rdw200169_: brb
[09:45] <rdw200169_> kanhiya78: pretty uncommon for ubuntu!
[09:45] <dirtyhawk> needhelpnoob: "rm" is for deleting files, not directories.
[09:45] <babo> how do i connect to wireless with ubuntu ?
[09:45] <ditch64> someone here familiar with grub?
[09:45] <rsmith16384> did you see any folders?
[09:45] <needhelpnoob> dirtyhawk: ok i'll try it out
[09:45] <gammy> dirtyhawk: Incorrect. rm -r implies "remove directories and their contents recursively"
[09:45] <[mbm]> ditch64: can be used to delete directories with -r
[09:45] <gammy> dirtyhawk: from rm(1).
[09:45] <needhelpnoob> ok so im doing it right then?
[09:46] <Gr3yW0lf> using hrparm -X is quite risky :P ... oh fun!! :)
[09:46] <kanhiya78> rdw200169_: they told me that if linux support your hardware automatically than it is ok otherwise they cannot do anythind
[09:46] <auswald> Anyone here that can help me with my weird permissions and ownership on /media/cdrom0?
[09:46] <rdw200169_> kanhiya78: yeah, that's the normal response ;)
[09:46] <gammy> needhelpnoob: I bet the drive is read-only :P
[09:46] <ditch64> for real tho, im trying to reinstall grub and it wont probe for devices, and i type setup (hd0) and it says invalid device requested
[09:46] <dirtyhawk> gammy: "rm -r X" meaning "delete X recursively", not "delete folder X".
[09:46] <needhelpnoob> gammy: drwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4.0K 2008-11-13 01:01 aaaaaa
[09:46] <gammy> dirtyhawk: Actually, look at the manual.
[09:47] <needhelpnoob> rwx means i have read/write/execute amarit?
[09:47] <needhelpnoob> *amarite
[09:47] <gammy> needhelpnoob: yes but it can still be read-only.
[09:47] <kanhiya78> rdw200169_: yes this is simple response to get rid of
[09:47] <[mbm]> Gr3yW0lf: it should default to the fastest udma mode both the computer and drive support
[09:47] <needhelpnoob> gammy: how do i fix this?
[09:47] <gammy> needhelpnoob: For example, imagine a locked floppy drive or SD card  set to "locked".
[09:47] <sebsebseb> so   64bit proccessor?  model name	: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4200+   ,but is there any real advantage of  gettring rid of hardy 32bit and putting ibex 64bit on?
[09:47] <sebsebseb> 2GB RAM
[09:47] <needhelpnoob> gammy:  yea i see ur point
[09:47] <woody86> what are the minimum requirements to run ubuntu or xubuntu?
[09:47] <sebsebseb> what advantage would I gain with 64bit Ubuntu?
[09:47] <needhelpnoob> gammy: so what should i do?
[09:48] <kanhiya78> rdw200169_: linux is not so much popular in india
[09:48] <ditch64> sebsebseb: probably not
[09:48] <Kartagis> hello? do i need wpa_supplicant to be able to load wireless certificate into ubuntu?
[09:48] <ditch64> sebsebseb: nothing from what i heard
[09:48] <sebsebseb> woddy86: 256mb RAM however  with  128MB and a swap partition already on there,  you can run  Ubuntu
[09:48] <rdw200169_> paul68: i though you said you had a switch on the lan side?
[09:48] <gammy> needhelpnoob: Do you know where the physical device is?
[09:48] <[mbm]> sebsebseb: you probably won't notice a difference; becomes important when you have >4G ram
[09:48] <ditch64> im trying to reinstall grub and it wont probe for devices, and i type setup (hd0) and it says invalid device requested
[09:48] <kanhiya78> rdw200169_: i am trying  my best to distribute it
[09:48] <rdw200169_> kanhiya78: well, this problem is not completely impossible to solve
[09:48] <needhelpnoob> gammy: ..ugh.. what do you mean by that? i know the name of the drive..
[09:48] <rdw200169_> kanhiya78: let's try something:
[09:48] <sebsebseb> mbm: maybe it has more than 2GB RAM,  is there a way to find out?
[09:48] <kanhiya78> rdw200169_: ok suggest me
[09:49] <gammy> needhelpnoob: Ok here's a simple test. Can you *create* a file in that directory?
[09:49] <[mbm]> sebsebseb: free -h
[09:49] <rdw200169_> kanhiya78: dpkg-reconfigure xorg-server
[09:49] <rdw200169_> kanhiya78: i think that's the right command...
[09:49] <needhelpnoob> gammy: yes i can
[09:49] <rdw200169_> kanhiya78: that should be a sudo command
[09:49] <kanhiya78> rdw200169_: i do not know
[09:49] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[09:49] <JihadJack> hey folks, if i have a xubuntu box, do i get a desktop if i ssh to it from an ubuntu laptop ? or do i need to use some kind of RDC ?
[09:49] <needhelpnoob> gammy: i've also succesfully managed to delete other files. it just wont let me delete folders which i suspect are infected with viruses
[09:50] <LukeL> sebsebseb your bios should report the actual amount of ram
[09:50] <gammy> needhelpnoob: ok. What does rm --verbose -r <directory> say?
[09:50] <ActionParsnip> JihadJack: ssh only give you cli
[09:50] <ditch64> !grub
[09:50] <ActionParsnip> JihadJack: you could vnc over the ssh connection
[09:50] <auswald> Anyone here that can help me with my weird permissions and ownership on /media/cdrom0? noob at this and the permissions are stopping me from installing something from a CD
[09:50] <kanhiya78> rdw200169_: here is otput
[09:50] <ActionParsnip> JihadJack: or use xforwarding
[09:50] <rdw200169_> kanhiya78: wait, i meant, xserver-xorg
[09:50] <[mbm]> JihadJack: ssh will give you a commandline
[09:50] <kanhiya78> ok
[09:50] <sebsebseb> well even with 2GB I guess for some things there will be a bit of an advantage with 64bit Ubuntu?
[09:50] <ditch64> sombody please PM me when theyre free
[09:50] <Ruge> hmm just to see performance, and if i like the environment, i might try a 7.04 install 2nite, and get the latest version off a friend when i go to his place
[09:51] <paul68> rdw200169_: well yes but it also handles wifi
[09:51] <needhelpnoob> gammy: it has a bunch of lines saying operation not supported and one with this: rm: cannot remove `/media/sdb1/aaaaaa/Microsoft/Windows/WER/ReportQueue/Report05786e2d': Input/output error
[09:51] <linguini> I don't understand "we don't touch ifupdown managed interfaces in gutsy network-manager anymore. Servers should usually not be run on network-manager manged interfaces. Use /etc/network/interfaces instead."
[09:51] <rdw200169_> paul68: and you just wanna throw another wireless router on the switch?
[09:51] <JihadJack> ActionParsnip, if i use xforwarding can i log into both machines at once? or am i only logged into the xubuntu machine?
[09:51] <ActionParsnip> sebsebseb: if you have 64bit hardware your data will flow quicker, for desktops under 3Gb I always install 32bit
[09:51] <gammy> needhelpnoob: io error. That *heavily* indicates drive failure. Do you see anything in dmesg about this?
[09:51] <ditch64> nevermind
[09:52] <Ayabara> a friend tried 8.04->8.10 upgrade now, and something went wrong. /boot/grub/menu.lst shows 8.10-stuff, but at boot he only sees 8.04 options
[09:52] <kanhiya78> rdw200169_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/71294/
[09:52] <sebsebseb> ActionParsnip:  2GB RAM
[09:52] <needhelpnoob> gammy: uh... what's dmesg? and what should i do with it xD
[09:52] <linguini> I think I need to change the networking on my ubuntu server to avoid a mysql startup problem.
[09:52] <[mbm]> sebsebseb: not particularly .. just means that the computer deals with 64bit numbers instead of 32bit numbers .. guessing you're not doing any heavy math that requires 64bit, and your memory fits in a 32bit number .. so not much point
[09:52] <gammy> needhelpnoob: type 'dmesg'. Do you see any errors related to this?
[09:52] <St3rnchen> hi
[09:52] <sebsebseb> ActionParsnip: it's got hardy 32bit on here now,  and  I am thinking about if I remove stuff from it after upgrade or before,  or just clean install with Ibex 64bit
[09:52] <ActionParsnip> JihadJack: the xserver is not constrained to running on the loccal system, if you have suitable libs you can see and use your apps as if they were local
[09:52] <rdw200169_> kanhiya78: yeah, i meant xserver-xorg
[09:53] <ct529> hi! If you have a deb package, how do you get information on how was the package configured at compilation time?
[09:53] <ActionParsnip> sebsebseb: if you are changing architectures i'd do a clean install
[09:53] <sebsebseb> mbm: maybe so ,but if I am going to clean install  UBuntu anyway
[09:53] <rdw200169_> kanhiya78: i.e. dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:53] <kanhiya78> rdw200169_: type full command
[09:53] <needhelpnoob> gammy: there are few lines similar to this: [  616.695613] Buffer I/O error on device fd0, logical block 0
[09:53] <ActionParsnip> JihadJack: or you cn vnc over, tbh you can do most tasks at cli
[09:54] <paul68> rdw200169_: not quiet it's going to be an switch combined with accesspoint
[09:54] <gammy> needhelpnoob: fd0. That's a floppy drive. I am assuming that it's not related? Or is your /media/sd* actually your floppy?
[09:54] <sebsebseb> ActionParsnip:  well hardy has quite a lot of stuff I won't really want in the Ibex install.   so  may as well clean install and do 64bit I think as well,  even if nothing will really be gained from it, but if the hardware can do it, may as well I guess
[09:54] <JihadJack> ActionParsnip, cheers for your help =P
[09:54] <rdw200169_> paul68: and you're only using 2 interfaces on the server?
[09:54] <kanhiya78> rdw200169_: now window opens what to do
[09:54] <paul68> rdw200169_: yes I do
[09:54] <grep65535> sebner, you on intel or amd?
[09:54] <auswald> Anyone here that can help me with my weird permissions and ownership on /media/cdrom0?
[09:55] <rdw200169_> paul68: so, it's just like the blue portion of this: http://www.greamin.com/server/_images/RichNet1.png
[09:55] <hellues> ns identify muhhaha
[09:55] <needhelpnoob> gammy: lol no it's a hdd. i dont see any errors relating to sdb1
[09:55] <ActionParsnip> sebsebseb: if you have your ~/ backed up sufficiently, the settings for your apps will (majoritively) transfer
[09:55] <dirtyhawk> auswald: What do you mean by "weird"?
[09:55] <gammy> needhelpnoob: Ok
[09:55] <kanhiya78> rdw200169_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/71295/
[09:55] <sebsebseb> ActionParsnip:  yeah well there isn't really anything to back up on this PC,   except for if anything .mozilla and things like that
[09:55] <gammy> needhelpnoob: What if you tail /var/log/syslog, anything?
[09:55] <auswald> Dirty: basically im trying to install something from a CD, and the permissions are not allowing me to - im new to ubuntu so i dont quite understand the problem exactly
[09:55] <kanhiya78> rdw200169_: here is output of command
[09:56] <rdw200169_> kanhiya78: select yes, or the default for most of the options
[09:56] <auswald> Dirty: Was also being helped about it in wine forums (its WoW: WOTLK) and they said to come here and ask about the permission problems
[09:56] <ActionParsnip> sebsebseb: well run your backup just before and restore later, if your ~/ is on a separate partition then even better
[09:56] <needhelpnoob> gammy: just this Nov 13 09:50:58 ed-desktop ntfs-3g[6841]: Delete failed: Operation not supported
[09:56] <kanhiya78> rdw200169_: ok
[09:56] <rdw200169_> kanhiya78: there should, at some point, be presented a list of screen resolutions to select
[09:56] <gammy> needhelpnoob: Ah that's interesting
[09:56] <kanhiya78> rdw200169_: ok
[09:56] <sebsebseb> ActionParsnip:  yep seperate partiiton is good, but not needed for this PC
[09:57] <kanhiya78> rdw200169_: please wait
[09:57] <Acid> ciaoooo
[09:57] <dirtyhawk> auswald: My name's not "Dirty". However, did you try to look at System -> Users and Groups and check your permission to use CD-ROM-drives?
[09:57] <Acid> !it
[09:57] <ActionParsnip> sebsebseb: it makes backups easier and if your system falls over the partition will be untouched. makes reinstalles easier
[09:57] <paul68> rdw200169_: yes but instead of having a switch with a seperate wifi I use the linksysrouter as switch and accesspoint to wifi
[09:57] <needhelpnoob> gammy: also this Nov 13 09:50:58 ed-desktop ntfs-3g[6841]: Record 188408 has no FILE magic (0x44414142)
[09:57] <auswald> Dirtyhawk: Let me take a peak at that
[09:58] <rdw200169_> paul68: it shouldn't be a problem, as long as you don't let another DHCP server screw up IP address management
[09:58] <dirtyhawk> auswald: wait a sec; wine? do you want to install a windows-application?
[09:58] <sebsebseb> ActionParsnip: I know, but   this PC well it's lame.  it's sadly in  XP Home 32bit most of the time when on,  since my parnats are locked into Windows.   my little brother who is 7 will use Ubuntu  again if I put on some better games for him,  and I will  sometimes use this computer,  but I got my own so yeah
[09:58] <gammy> needhelpnoob: do you recognise the directory names which are failing to be deleted?
[09:58] <orgthingy> sound aint working anymore, everytime i have to REBOOT to have sound working again?
[09:58] <needhelpnoob> gammy: the thing is i had other files on those folders and they deleted fine. i deleted a 15gb or so worth of files and it left a few out.. saying operation not supported
[09:58] <orgthingy> whats this
[09:58] <sebsebseb> ActionParsnip: also only got 15GB for Ubuntu which should be ok, unless I go ISO crazy  or something.
[09:58] <orgthingy> what kind of lame bug is this o__O
[09:59] <auswald> Dirtyhawk: yes i do, but the people over on the wine IRC said there was a problem with my cdrom permissions
[09:59] <gammy> needhelpnoob: I bet you they're reparse points
[09:59] <rdw200169_> paul68: on any one segment of a network, two dhcp server working autonomously never ever play nice, and wreak all sorts of havoc
[09:59] <gammy> needhelpnoob: Such files cannot be deleted with ntfs-3g yet.
[09:59] <sebsebseb> ActionParsnip:  could resize XP on here I know and my Dad probably would never notice, an Gparted has been rather good when it came to resizing XP, but if it goes wrong hummm
[09:59] <ActionParsnip> sebsebseb: yeah 15Gb is way enough, you need about 2Gb for a comfortable install
[09:59] <needhelpnoob> gammy: yes. they are from my old windows installation .. i think they are the folders infected withviruses
[09:59] <paul68> rdw200169_: I try not to lol I put everything on static however is this setup going to be a problem for the bridging?
[09:59] <rdw200169_> paul68: ah, you don't need it
[09:59] <dirtyhawk> auswald: sutoid question, but: did you install wine?
[09:59] <dirtyhawk> stupid
[09:59] <rdw200169_> paul68: i got the story wrong
[09:59] <auswald> dirtyhawk: of course i did lol.
[10:00] <ActionParsnip> sebsebseb: just remember to backup so you can recover if stuff goes wrong
[10:00] <needhelpnoob> gammy: so there's nothing i can do? ...if not.. is there a way i could do it through windows?
[10:00] <dirtyhawk> auswald: ok, just wanted to be sure
[10:00] <sebsebseb> ActionParsnip:  I knew 64bit wasn't really about speed, but   as a result,   it probably won't run that much better than 32bit Ubuntu  or  32bit XP on this computer?
[10:00] <dirtyhawk> auswald: sry
[10:00] <gammy> needhelpnoob: Which version of ubuntu are you running?
[10:00] <kanhiya78> rdw200169_: did not get any option for resolution only option for keyboard was there
[10:00] <|Chrizz|> I have a dualboot. Ubuntu and windows XP. Is it possible to configure virtualbox, that it loads its stuff from the windowsxp dir?
[10:00] <rdw200169_> paul68: bridging is for situations, like mine in the server guide, when you have several interfaces, for example, eth0, eth1, eth2, eth3, eth4, etc...
[10:00] <needhelpnoob> gammy: 8.04
[10:00] <auswald> dirtyhawk: its understandable
[10:00] <needhelpnoob> gammy: 64bit
[10:00] <sebsebseb> ActionParsnip:  and maybe hardly any if any at all gain will be done, but may as well do it if the hardware suppourts I Think
[10:00] <ActionParsnip> sebsebseb: i doubt it. plus web plugins are more supported in 32bit
[10:00] <paul68> rdw200169_: sorry I am not that well equiped :-)
[10:00] <rdw200169_> kanhiya78: *sigh* what a pain! in my past, i was always presented with a list of resolutions...
[10:00] <linguini> Freaking NetworkManager/avahi-daemon/mysql !
[10:00] <ActionParsnip> sebsebseb: if thats the intention of the system id definately go 32bit
[10:00] <sebsebseb> ActoinParsnip: yes, but the 32bit ones can be run on 64bit UBuntu
[10:00] <rdw200169_> kanhiya78: it's not your fault, it's x.org's
[10:00] <paul68> rdw200169_: have to keep my wife happy though
[10:01] <auswald> Dirtyhawk: my "normal" user has full permissions on everything, But root has no permissions at all. Could that be the problem?
[10:01] <ActionParsnip> sebsebseb: its very little gain for a tonne more work. give it a go, see what you reckon
[10:01] <sebsebseb> ActionParsnip: well FLash will be used yes, but  I heard before that Java is the issue not  FLash
[10:01] <kanhiya78> rdw200169_: what can i do?
[10:01] <paul68> rdw200169_: otherwhise she is going to get crazy and mad and while she's pregnant that's not a pretty sight
[10:01] <rdw200169_> paul68: bridging is for situations when you want eth0 + eth1 + eth2 = bri0
[10:01] <rdw200169_> paul68: ?
[10:01] <paul68> rdw200169_: yes
[10:01] <rdw200169_> kanhiya78: i dunno yet, lemme google around a bit
[10:02] <gammy> needhelpnoob: you could always try upgrading ntfs-3g, however if my guess is correct then it isn't a bug.
[10:02] <ActionParsnip> sebsebseb: flash is still flakey, nspluginwrapper helps lots
[10:02] <needhelpnoob> gammy: ok thanks for the help :D i'll try it out
[10:02] <gammy> needhelpnoob: I don't know if it is possible in windows. Unfortunately I know nothing of it. You could simply try removing them from windows I suppose
[10:02] <jinx_> I need some help getting ufs write support working
[10:02] <sebsebseb> ActionParsnip: well even on 32bit Ubuntu there can be FLash issues,  I have experiend that on my other PC
[10:02] <gammy> needhelpnoob: Sure.
[10:02] <orgthingy> meh
[10:02] <orgthingy> anyone?
[10:02] <dirtyhawk> auswald: that sounds barely possible. but as you want to install it for your user (not for root) it should not be a problem. can you open the cd in file-browser and copy the instal files to your desktop?
[10:02] <orgthingy> sound problems here?
[10:02] <ActionParsnip> sebsebseb: its a proprietary software, its gonna have issues
[10:03] <jinx_> anyone familiar with this online at the moment?
[10:03] <Guest60226>  hi just installed moodle with synaptic on Ubuntu HH, but can't find how to activate it (or any docs)
[10:03] <sebsebseb> ActionParsnip: yep indeed
[10:03] <auswald> dirtyhawk: cant, everytime i try to copy the files it says i dont have permission to
[10:03] <ActionParsnip> sebsebseb: but adoe are too stupid to release info so an open plugin can e made
[10:03] <rdw200169_> kanhiya78: can you paste this file: /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[10:03] <kanhiya78> rdw200169_: i can wait for 9.04 right? i am not able to find solution for my resolution
[10:03] <kanhiya78> rdw200169_: ok
[10:03] <mynoonq8> hi
[10:03] <sebsebseb> ActionParsnip: well for a few things where wine won't cut it and probably not cedega or codeweavers either,  or they would if I Knew how to get working
[10:03] <rdw200169_> kanhiya78: we're not done yet ;)
[10:04] <rdw200169_> kanhiya78: b/c i don't make a very good quitter...
[10:04] <sebsebseb> ActionParsnip:  I will have a XP  SP1  VM  that is offline.   XP SP1  since I don't need SP2/3 for that,  and also if I do that then I got 4GB or so wasted with that crap
[10:04] <paul68> rdw200169_: whats your question my friend?
[10:04] <sebsebseb> ActionParsnip:  where as  XP SP1 in virutalbox VM is only like 1GB :D
[10:04] <grep65535> sebsebseb, I'm running Ubuntu 8.10 x64 right now, been running it since release of 'stable' and so far I've had no problems at all
[10:04] <ActionParsnip> sebsebseb: just use wine instead of cedega
[10:04] <rdw200169_> paul68: all that stuff about your wife getting mad.
[10:05] <ActionParsnip> sebsebseb: cedega is paidfor software
[10:05] <kanhiya78> rdw200169_:  /etc/X11/xorg.conf ? command not found
[10:05] <rdw200169_> paul68: seemed like the train got derailed
[10:05] <sebsebseb> ActionParsnip:  could have Flash running in Winblows VM if  it was ever nessarey, but  I don't think that will be the case even on 64bit Ubuntu :D
[10:05] <grep65535> sebsebseb, and i watch movies, usually have 30-60 tabs in firefox open, skype, tons of things... I've only been unable to install like 2 firefox extensions and 1 trivial app in synaptic
[10:05] <sebsebseb> ActionParsnip: oh yeah and the Windows plugin will work in Wine anyway
[10:05] <rdw200169_> kanhiya78: alright, on the command line: "sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[10:05] <paul68> rdw200169_: thats the side affect I get when I spend to much time behind my computer ;-)
[10:05] <rdw200169_> kanhiya78: copy, paste, please
[10:05] <rdw200169_> paul68: ah, i see
[10:05] <dirtyhawk> auswald: open a terminal and try "cp -r -v <CDROM> /home/<USERNAME>/Desktop/temp" with <CDROM> being your CD-drive and <USERNAME< your username. and paste the output to paste.ubuntu.com
[10:05] <ActionParsnip> sebsebseb: ive not really had issue with it, ive just heard stuff in here
[10:06] <ActionParsnip> sebsebseb: flash seems ok in opera
[10:06] <Doodz> hey peoples:  If I have installed a Wifi PCI Card and Ubuntu 8.10 doesn't pick it up automatically.  Does anyone know how I install new hardware such as a PCI card in Ubuntu ?
[10:06] <ActionParsnip> Doodz: lspci
[10:06] <ActionParsnip> Doodz: then websearch from there
[10:06] <Mal3ko> what does cmd "cat" do actually?
[10:06] <grep65535> sebsebseb, Cedega contributes to the Wine project anyway, so you're getting the same product, just it wont be holding your hand on the execution
[10:06] <sebsebseb> grep65535:   model name	: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4200+  and 2GB RAM  I probably won't gain much from 64bit UBuntu, but may as well since the hardware can do it
[10:06] <rdw200169_> Mal3ko: catenate,
[10:07] <ActionParsnip> Doodz: you shouldve looked on the HCL list and bought the most linux friendly wifi card you could
[10:07] <kanhiya78> rdw200169_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/71297/
[10:07] <gammy> Mal3ko: 'cat' concatenates files.
[10:07] <webnewsreader> Hi ! Anyone familiar with DRBL and Clonezilla ?
[10:07] <gammy> Mal3ko: By default, it does it to stdout.
[10:07] <zauber> I would like to connect to my home network from my iphone through a vpn. I have a dlink router and a ubuntu (feisty) machine behind it on the home network. I was thinking I could configure some vpn-server to run on the ubuntu machine. Seems like a common enough setup but I'm having a hard time finding simple step-by-steps for this. Anyone got good ideas?
[10:07] <grep65535> sebsebseb, I'm using AMD as well, so far i've had not issues
[10:07] <sebsebseb> grep65535: I think you meant Codeweavers does,  Cedega don't they just took wine code years ago and never gave anything back
[10:07] <rdw200169_> Mal3ko: old school term for 'dump the contents out'
[10:07] <ActionParsnip> Mal3ko: it can be used to output text from text files
[10:07] <auswald> dirtyhawk: for CDROM it would be like E: or something of the like correct?
[10:07] <grep65535> sebsebseb,  oh yea.... crossover..  i switched'm
[10:07] <ActionParsnip> !vpnd
[10:07] <Mal3ko> oh..i get it now..
[10:07] <Doodz> ActionParsnip: Cool thanks... so if Ubuntu doesn't pick it up then I don't have much chance of installing the one I've got ?
[10:08] <sebsebseb> and yes I would rather use  open source wine, then the propritary ones
[10:08] <dirtyhawk> auswald: no, it should be "/media/disc/" or something like that.
[10:08] <rdw200169_> kanhiya78: that's the whole file?
[10:08] <ActionParsnip> Doodz: depends on the chip on the card
[10:08] <grep65535> sebsebseb, I'm running AMD also, no problems at all with flash or the other popular "problems" of x64, and my systems is used constantly every day
[10:08] <sebsebseb> however sometimes the propritary ones can be useful
[10:08] <Doodz> Action: ok lets pretend it has a linux friendly chip
[10:08] <gammy> Mal3ko: Actually it means "to link together" or "to chain"
[10:08] <C0p3rn1c> pfff since I went from ubuntu 8.04 to 8.10 I can't get my nvidia geforce 2 pro working anymore :(
[10:08] <kanhiya78> rdw200169_: i have selected all
[10:08] <ActionParsnip> zauber: if your router is a vpn server you can connect to that and act as if you are on the LAN
[10:08] <sebsebseb> ,but in my case it  would always be try app in wine first, then if no good there, try in others, then if no good in that yep Windows vm.  and that's fine unless a 3d game of course
[10:08] <rdw200169_> gammy: whatever..
[10:09] <kanhiya78> rdw200169_: let me paste it again
[10:09] <gammy> rdw200169_: The difference is significant.
[10:09] <rdw200169_> kanhiya78: no that's ok
[10:09] <ActionParsnip> sebsebseb: 3d accelleration in virtual systems doesnt really run great
[10:09] <grep65535> sebsebseb, my reason for 64bit was basically 'why not'   I've got 4GB ram, but i only ever use about 2-3 at any time
[10:09] <sebsebseb> well this computer has only 2GB RAM
[10:09] <sebsebseb> ,but even so
[10:09] <sebsebseb> why not?
[10:09] <rdw200169_> gammy: yes, but the term catenate, or concatenate, whatever is chain, add
[10:09] <Doodz> ActionParsnip: ok lets pretend it has a linux friendly chip
[10:09] <zauber> ActionParsnip: ah. so I'll need to setup my ubuntu machine as gateway? port forwarding through the router won't work?
[10:09] <ActionParsnip> zauber: if not then port forward to a system to manage vpn and run a VPNd
[10:09] <grep65535> sebsebseb, for pretty dang good windows-app interoperability I use VirtualBox
[10:09] <ActionParsnip> Doodz: then absolutely
[10:09] <kanhiya78> rdw200169_: somebody two days ago said to delete some lines from it
[10:09] <zauber> ActionParsnip: cool. thanks
[10:10] <rdw200169_> gammy: the colloqial understanding, according to unix users, is dump contents
[10:10] <ActionParsnip> zauber: if your router can act as a VPN server then you have no work to do :)
[10:10] <paul68> rdw200169_: to resume I don't get into trouble for the nat translation between 2nd nic and switch?
[10:10] <kanhiya78> rdw200169_: and he was not able to solve my problem
[10:10] <Doodz> ActionParsnip: Ubuntu would just pick it up automatically and it would work ?  would manual intervention sometimes be required ?
[10:10] <sebsebseb> ActionParsnip:  yes I know 3D is out for vm's
[10:10] <rdw200169_> paul68: no, there shouldn't be a problem
[10:10] <ActionParsnip> Doodz: you REALLY should have looked at compatible cards though, saves heartache
[10:10] <grep65535> sebsebseb, I installed ubuntu_64 expecting to run into a wall of problems, and it ended up being mostly hype
[10:10] <rdw200169_> paul68: you can add as much garbage behind that switch as you want
[10:10] <sebsebseb> grep65535:  yep  Virtualbox or    Qemu :D
[10:10] <ActionParsnip> Doodz: if its compatiible, very little if none
[10:11] <Doodz> ActionParsnip: ok so have you got a link for compatible ubuntu cards ?
[10:11] <ChrisW> hey all, I want to get Ubuntu running on some machines of mine, but I have some peripherals that only have windows drivers/software... is it possible to run those drivers software in a windows vm on linux?
[10:11] <rdw200169_> paul68: go ahead and chain several switches together with a few old-school 5baseT bridges
[10:11] <ActionParsnip> Doodz: lspci will tell you what it is and you can then look at how to configure it
[10:11] <ActionParsnip> !hcl | Doodz
[10:11] <rdw200169_> paul68: the server won't care, or know
[10:11] <paul68> rdw200169_: ok thanks
[10:11] <Doodz> ubottu: thanks
[10:11] <rdw200169_> paul68: as far as it's concerned, it's all layer1/layer2 traffic
[10:12] <gammy> rdw200169_: A simplified explanation, sure. "concatenate" still doesn't *mean*, nor is it analogous to "dump".
[10:12] <SlimeyPete> ChrisW: you mean you want to be able to use the peripherals in Linux, or just in your Windows VM? Are they USB?
[10:12] <paul68> rdw200169_: you still keep surprising me with the knowledge that you have please do remind me when you have that book ready
[10:12] <auswald> dirtyhawk: basically just get cannot create directory : no such file or directory, think im doing it wrong
[10:12] <sebsebseb> grep65535: well it's a bit like that with WIndows even,  will it work well 64bit WIndows etc etc
[10:12] <rdw200169_> paul68: as long as ip addresses are correct, there shouldn't be a problem
[10:13] <rdw200169_> gammy, i'm refferring to the programmers definition, the same guys that wrote the cat command for instance, in that they mean for it to mean, 'add junk together', i.e. 'conCATenate strings' and so on...
[10:13] <gammy> rdw200169_: Please remember that "dump" implies *emptying* something.
[10:13] <Mal3ko> one more, how do we create a filelist containing all files in a folder?
[10:13] <grep65535> sebsebseb, yea, I stripped down Vistax64 with vlite and it installs fine and runs apps fine,  in fact I've only run into one problem with vista64, and it had a quick fix via 1 search on google
[10:13] <dirtyhawk> auswald: okay, try to open a terminal and do "cd /media/ && ls"
[10:13] <kanhiya78> rdw200169_: have you finished searching on google
[10:13] <gammy> rdw200169_: That's why I'm objecting here..
[10:13] <rdw200169_> gammy: yes, but it's rather pointless to expect someone to under stand, 'could you please 'concatenate' that to the terminal?
[10:13] <Mal3ko> along with their relative paths
[10:13] <auswald> dirtyhawk: now what?
[10:14] <dirtyhawk> auswald: one of the directories in there is your CD-Drive
[10:14] <kanhiya78> rdw200169_: now what to do/
[10:14] <auswald> dirtyhawk: yeah, CD drive is /media/cdrom0/
[10:14] <dirtyhawk> auswald: maybe "disc"
[10:14] <gammy> rdw200169_: Yes. But "join this with that" isn't hard to understand, and it's not implying anything that's factually incorrect.
[10:14] <gammy> rdw200169_: so I really don't see the problem with saying that :)
[10:14] <sebsebseb> grep65535: do you think I will get any noticable gain in 64bit Ubuntu and only 2GB RAM?  and usage well  native Linux games,   Firefox,  some WIne stuff, and that's about it
[10:14] <dirtyhawk> auswald: sounds good. then "cd ./cdrom0"
[10:14] <rdw200169_> gammy: if it hasn't made itself blindingly obvious in this room yet, nevermind
[10:15] <bluefoxx> oi! is Section "Modes" still valid in xorg.conf?
[10:15] <gammy> rdw200169_: channel, not room ;) Haha
[10:15] <grep65535> sebsebseb, gain, no, but not any loss either
[10:15] <ChrisW> SlimeyPete: I mean use them in the Windows VM, they don't have drivers/software for linux
[10:15] <rdw200169_> kanhiya78: honestly, i'm at a loss
[10:15] <sebsebseb> grep65535:  the games  3D and 2D
[10:15] <auswald> dirtyhawk: you mean cd to /media/cdrom0/ ?
[10:15] <grep65535> sebsebseb, you'll be year 2038 compliant though ;-)
[10:15] <laobing> #ubuntu-cn
[10:15] <ActionParsnip> bluefoxx: do you mean for graphical resolutions?
[10:15] <ChrisW> they're a combination of USB and PCI
[10:15] <bluefoxx> ActionParsnip; ye
[10:15] <bluefoxx> a
[10:15] <dirtyhawk> auswald: "mkdir ~/Desktop/temp/ && cp -r -v /media/cdrom0/* ~/Desktop/temp/"
[10:15] <sebsebseb> grep65535: maybe there will be a very tiny gain it will just hardly be noticable
[10:15] <ActionParsnip> bluefoxx: some gfx cards still use it, so yes
[10:16] <rdw200169_> gammy: look, i'm a staunch grammar nazi like many, and i'm writing a research paper on the use of punctuation, but there's a line drawn on this, the use of the command 'cat'
[10:16] <kanhiya78> rdw200169_: ok leave it but will you tell me how to use webcam using ubuntu
[10:16] <grep65535> sebsebseb, I'm using the nvidia driver, so 3D should run fine
[10:16] <dirtyhawk> auswald: should copy everythink from the cd to your desktop
[10:16] <paul68> rdw200169_: can I throw in my new dhcp config and bindconfig onto my server without getting the things screwed up? or is that given the current setup not a whise Idea?
[10:16] <rdw200169_> kanhiya78: no, i've never used one...
[10:16] <bluefoxx> i have a laptop with a internal LCD that runs native to 1024x768 but ubuntu *always* defaults to 800x600 with no other options
[10:16] <grep65535> sebsebseb, it's just a matter of what architecture the source for the app is compiled against i think, apps dont actually have to be build to utilize the extended functionality
[10:16] <ActionParsnip> bluefoxx: yeah i'd add the modes line, see what you get
[10:17] <sebsebseb> grep65535:  my Dad bought this PC not me, but still why sell a 64bit proccessor  with only 2GB RAM?
[10:17] <kanhiya78> bluefoxx: i have same problem
[10:17] <bluefoxx> ActionParsnip; thanks
[10:17] <rdw200169_> bluefoxx: looks like you and kanhiya78 have something in common
[10:17] <rdw200169_> ah, she beat me
[10:17] <dirtyhawk> auswald: does it work?
[10:17] <ActionParsnip> bluefoxx: you can always remove it / modify if its not good
[10:17] <bluefoxx> rdw200169_; yes, i noticed that earlier
[10:17] <rdw200169_> take that, FloodBot2
[10:17] <saujiro> assalamu alaikum?
[10:17] <auswald> dirtyhawk: getting no such file or directory still
[10:17] <kanhiya78> bluefoxx: and it has not been solved yet
[10:17] <gammy> rdw200169_: Dude saying "dump" implies removing the original contents and this is *not* okay to say to someone. I really don't see your problem with this fact. Sure it might be obvious for an English-speaking person, but if you're in bloody india or czech it might not be as clear and will surely lead to confusion. So let's just drop this, ok?
[10:18] <kanhiya78> bluefoxx: i am new to linux and you
[10:18] <grep65535> sebsebseb: future compliance, cuz the whole RAM/OS thing is a separate issue altogether from what hardware to bundle together
[10:18] <dirtyhawk> but you can "cd /media/cdrom0"?
[10:18] <bluefoxx> i found the code http://paste.ubuntu.com/71300/ in another xorg.conf
[10:18] <auswald> yes
[10:18] <rdw200169_> gammy: depends on how you specify the definition of dump
[10:18] <sebsebseb> grep65535: meaning?
[10:18] <dirtyhawk> auswald: then try "ls" there
[10:18] <grep65535> sebsebseb: I got my Opteron with only 2GB initially, and I got my Core2Duo with only 512MB on it initially
[10:18] <dirtyhawk> if there's nothin in it, your cd-drive is not mounted correctly
[10:18] <gammy> rdw200169_: the definition is pretty damn solid.
[10:18] <bluefoxx> kanhiya78; been using on and off[depending on if i want to games or work] for a year and a half
[10:18] <SlimeyPete> ChrisW: the USB ones *might* work via VirtualBox's USB passthrough. The PCI ones won't work in a VM - the VM can't see the real PCI devices that are in teh ssytem, only emulated ones.
[10:18] <ActionParsnip> bluefoxx: thats a lot, wowser
[10:18] <grep65535> sebsebseb, but both are 64-bit capable
[10:19] <sebsebseb> grep65535: if the RAM is upgraded?   then it can do 64bit well?
[10:19] <auswald> dirtyhawk: Shows DirectX and Installer.exe - the 2 items in the folder
[10:19] <sebsebseb> more RAM and then it can do 64bit well?
[10:19] <rdw200169_> gammy: not if you use the computer science definition
[10:19] <kanhiya78> bluefoxx: i found someone who has same problem
[10:19] <bluefoxx> kanhiya78; oh?
[10:19] <ActionParsnip> sebsebseb: the more ram will allow more concurrent applications
[10:19] <grep65535> sebsebseb: the RAM has nothing to do with the 64-bit aspect of it.  It's just... 32-bit OS's simply won't read the ram over 3.8GB, regardless of your CPU bits
[10:19] <paul68> rdw200169_: can I throw in my new dhcp config and bindconfig onto my server without getting the things screwed up? or is that given the current setup not a whise Idea? as I still need to buy the second switch
[10:19] <dirtyhawk> auswald: what does "wine /media/cdrom0/installer.exe" produce?
[10:20] <rdw200169_> paul68: oh yeah, sorry ;)
[10:20] <babo> how do i connect to wireless with ubuntu ?
[10:20] <dirtyhawk> auswald: or "Installer.exe", remember linux to be case-sensitive
[10:20] <auswald> dirtyhawk: wine: could not load L"E:\\Installer.exe": Module not found
[10:20] <rdw200169_> paul68: is the second switch going to be piggy-backed on the first?
[10:20] <kanhiya78> bluefoxx: fedora did not work a bit, solaris did not work a bit, but ubuntu works on my system
[10:20] <gammy> rdw200169_: You mean like the explanation of a core dump? I'm a software developer and I still don't have a clue at your "computer science definition" nor can I actually find one that differs from the English(British) one.
[10:20] <ActionParsnip> babo: install your wifi adapter properly, then use something like wifi-radar to configure the connection
[10:20] <gammy> rdw200169_: If you can point me to one I'd gladly read it.
[10:21] <sebsebseb> grep65535:  64bit Ibex then it will be on here
[10:21] <babo> ActionParsnip, can't i just use gnome ?
[10:21] <paul68> rdw200169_: the second switch is going to get attached to the 2nd nic of the server
[10:21] <ActionParsnip> babo: yes you can, but gnome wont do anything to your wifi adapter
[10:21] <babo> ActionParsnip, why a wifi adapter ? i have a wireless card
[10:21] <rdw200169_> paul68: where's the first going?
[10:21] <bluefoxx> kanhiya78; ubuntu is supposed to be new-user friendly. solaris is generally for Sun Microsystems machines [or in my case it is] and fedora i have yet to find time to test
[10:21] <ActionParsnip> babo: same thing
[10:21] <babo> ActionParsnip, how do i connect properly using gnome ?
[10:22] <ActionParsnip> babo: you need to make sure proper drivers are installed first
[10:22] <sebsebseb> bluefoxx:  not quite so true now.  Solaris is becoming more like Linux a lot more like UBuntu in fact
[10:22] <grep65535> sebsebseb: when it comes to something as significant as an architecture upgrade like that, the best thing I can tell you is, give it a shot, if it doesn't work out well, then you know that for *your* hardware you need to wait a bit longer
[10:22] <kanhiya78> bluefoxx: after reading some files system hangs using solaris or fedora , at last i try ubuntu and it works
[10:22] <babo> ActionParsnip, right. after that. how do i connect using gnome ?
[10:22] <dirtyhawk> auswald: seems to be a bit of pretty old software you want to install. it sounds to me as if it wants to use windows-drive-names, and that of course does not work on linux, for "E:" does not make sense there
[10:22] <grep65535> sebsebseb: but, in my experience, it's been flawless
[10:22] <ChrisW> SlimeyPete: oh, rats :-(
[10:22] <rdw200169_> gammy: http://www.thefreedictionary.com/dump entry 4.
[10:22] <ActionParsnip> babo: you can use network manager in your system tray
[10:22] <sebsebseb> grep65535: I don't really understand so much the difference between 32bit and 64bit
[10:22] <auswald> dirtyhawk: Its World of warcraft: wrath of the lich king. Just came out 2 hours ago :P
[10:22] <kanhiya78> bluefoxx: still there is something that i want from ubuntu
[10:23] <ActionParsnip> babo: gnome is only the desktop environment, the rest are programs
[10:23] <ChrisW> maybe on that box I'll just need to run Ubuntu on a vm on Windows
[10:23] <babo> ActionParsnip, Network Settings ?
[10:23] <ChrisW> what's the best way of doing that?
[10:23] <sebsebseb> ChrisW:  what WIndows apps do you want to run?
[10:23] <dirtyhawk> auswald: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=980629
[10:23] <grep65535> sebsebseb: the difference the way I understand it is difficult to explain easily,  the difference is in the programming.  And essentially should only matter to programmers
[10:23] <ActionParsnip> babo: yeah, you need to use the standard gnome app to configure the connection
[10:23] <bluefoxx> sebsebseb; oh? i only have a copy i intend to install on a old sunblade 150 that needs some parts... [RAM, keyboard] and tested it on a friends machine[we collect odd discarded computers. i have a sparc classic to use for IC once i get it a hdd]
[10:23] <dirtyhawk> auswald: google is your freind
[10:23] <ActionParsnip> dirtyhawk: so is ask.com :)
[10:24] <sebsebseb> bluefoxx: well opensolaris you can run on a PC,  and it seems solaris itself as well
[10:24] <grep65535> sebsebseb: to us, 64-bit is just a wider pipe for data to flow through, and enables applications to run smoother, and essentially do everything you'd expect next generation processors to do
[10:24] <paul68> rdw200169_: the first nic is connected to the first router after the isp modem
[10:24] <babo> ActionParsnip, System->Administration->Network ?
[10:24] <bluefoxx> hmm
[10:24] <ActionParsnip> babo: you got it
[10:24] <babo> ActionParsnip, where does it list all available networks?
[10:24] <auswald> dirtyhawk: thanks i'll give that a try
[10:24] <tripitaka> Hello, I've got an old laptop with no CDROM, and no USB boot. How can I get ubuntu on it?
[10:24] <ActionParsnip> babo: if your wireless adapter isnt configured you wont be able to configure it
[10:24] <dirtyhawk> auswald: looks like the exactly same problem. i hope it helps
[10:24] <kanhiya78> bluefoxx: i installed it on my friend's pc and there it works best and my friend says wow but i was thinking how can i say wow for my computer
[10:25] <rdw200169_> gammy: so how about this, why don't we agree to disagree, and say that the 'cat' command conveniently, when used without arguments, pipes, or redirections, PRINTS the contents of a particular file to the stdout
[10:25] <grep65535> tripitaka: floppy, net install?
[10:25] <ville> tripitaka: buy and external cd-rom drive
[10:25] <ActionParsnip> !wifi | babo
[10:25] <paul68> rdw200169_: where this router is currently also active as accesspoint for the wifi devices
[10:25] <dirtyhawk> auswald: have fun with it
[10:25] <ActionParsnip> babo: read that
[10:25] <gammy> rdw200169_: Cool - I have never ever seen that before. It's not in any other dictionary I know of. unfortunately, it uses the term 'transfer from', meaning 'convey from one place to another', implying removal from the previous destination! :D But yes, the definition is still understandable, obviously.
[10:25] <babo> k thanks
[10:25] <tripitaka> grep65535: It has an onboard NIC, and a floppy drive
[10:25] <Inf_lappy> is there a bug with network manager and how it meassures wireless connection quality? i'm sitting 1m from my access point and it's showing 5% right now
[10:25] <the9a3eedi> Hi. My laptop had a problem with the motherboard, so I had to go and fix it. Once I had it returned, they apparently changed the motherboard with another model's motherboard, so some components have changed.. namely the graphcis card. it's changed from 8600m GT to 9500m GS .. And now ubuntu (actually X11) is pretty unusuable, so I was wondering if theres a nice way to reconfigure X11.
[10:25] <sebsebseb> grep64435: ok sure, but since the proccessor can suppourt it, it seems:  model name	: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4200+
[10:26] <sebsebseb> I may as well do it
[10:26] <tripitaka> ville: with no USB boot, how is an external CD going to help?
[10:26] <ActionParsnip> Inf_lappy: you got latest updates?
[10:26] <ActionParsnip> Inf_lappy: it may be an acpi issue
[10:26] <Inf_lappy> never did that when i was running hardy
[10:26] <gammy> rdw200169_: I would prefer we agree on something more solid. We both know, for example, that cat secretes yummy data..
[10:26] <gammy> rdw200169_: hu hu ;)
[10:26] <grep65535> tripitaka: maybe you could find a network install boot floppy image, I'm not sure where though,   but I know net install iso's are between like 26-40MB only, there's gotta be something for ubuntu
[10:26] <ActionParsnip> Inf_lappy: well you got a whole new OS so its different
[10:27] <kanhiya78> rdw200169_: ok thanks for trying a lot and spending your time with me. But my problem is still there.OKAY  bye have a good day/night
[10:27] <tripitaka> grep65535: I was hoping to find a network install floppy
[10:27] <gammy> rdw200169_: and by the way, thanks for that link.
[10:27] <rdw200169_> paul68: so you're gonna replace the wifi router you're using now to surf the net with a switch?
[10:27] <grep65535> sebsebseb: give it a shot, the only way to find out is try.
[10:27] <ActionParsnip> Inf_lappy: try a different network management app, it may report different
[10:27] <sebsebseb> grep65535: yep
[10:27] <Inf_lappy> ActionParsnip, i'm pretty sure it's a display problem because i'm pulling at full speed from archive.org
[10:28] <ActionParsnip> Inf_lappy: then just ignore it
[10:28] <rdw200169_> gammy: i'm sure you're just waiting to use that definition against someone else that uses the word dump
[10:28] <tripitaka> is there a pxelinux.0 with the default ubuntu release?
[10:28] <gammy> rdw200169_: :D
[10:28] <ChrisW> hmm, what virtualisation software would people recommend that would let me run an ubuntu vm on a windows box?
[10:28] <rdw200169_> gammy: just do me a favor, and don't forget about the serial comma
[10:29] <|Chrizz|> Im trying to reinstall ubuntu with a dualboot of XP. Neet do do the formatting manually. What does ubuntu need? (not the size, but the other things like ext3,swap etc
[10:29] <mgolisch> ChrisW: virtualbox?
[10:29] <ActionParsnip> |Chrizz|: depends entirely on use
[10:29] <ChrisW> mgolisch: url?
[10:29] <mgolisch> http://www.virtualbox.org/
[10:29] <ActionParsnip> |Chrizz|: you need at very least / and swap
[10:30] <grep65535> tripitaka: I'm askin google
[10:30] <|Chrizz|> ActionParsnip: I had / and swap  minutes ago, but it gave me lots of errors, saying it cant write to my home directory etc.
[10:30] <gammy> rdw200169_: I do prefer the oxford or, harvard comma!
[10:30] <ActionParsnip> |Chrizz|: you could make a partition for /home
[10:30] <JonathanEllis> Hi. I have 3 hard drives in my machine. The first device has three partitions: (1) a windows partition (not mounted in linux), (2) my linux root partition (mounted as /) and (3) swap partition. The second device has two partitions: home (mounted as /home) and swap. The third device has one partition which I am using as extra space (mounted as /home/jonathan/extraspace). The problem is that the third device also appears on the desktop
[10:30] <Tyrath> hi folks
[10:31] <JonathanEllis> and I dont want it to.
[10:31] <rdw200169_> gammy: *anger*, i'll stick with the columbia way of doing things, thank you very much
[10:31] <ditch64> mmmk, now im running into another problem
[10:31] <ditch64> i reloaded grub i guess in the wrong place, aaand now i cant load ubuntu, but i cant load it to the right place because it wont work
[10:31] <|Chrizz|> ActionParsnip: But al the others in the mount point list (/boot /tmp /usr /var /srv /opt /sur/local), Do i have to make partitions for those too then?
[10:31] <xukun> I made some changes through the ATI Catalsys Control Center for my crt tv's  but now when I reboot the system x crashes, how can I undo this? there is?
[10:32] <ActionParsnip> !grub | ditch64
[10:32] <grep65535> tripitaka: try here: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/install-ubuntukubuntuedubuntuxubuntu-without-cdrom-drive.html
[10:32] <rdw200169_> gammy: and when i'm typing i'll--wait never mind--sidebar whenever the heck i want
[10:32] <ActionParsnip> |Chrizz|: no they can be folders in /
[10:32] <ditch64> ActionParsnip: theres nothing really that will help me though
[10:32] <Tyrath> ok. I don't know if this makes any sense but somehow I know that ubuntu isn't incharge of my computer because windows runs boot. how can I change this?
[10:32] <ActionParsnip> |Chrizz|: just like /home can
[10:32] <ActionParsnip> ditch64: you need to boot to live cd to reinstall grub properly
[10:32] <grep65535> tripitaka: I gave it a quick skim so i haven't read *all* of it, but it may help you
[10:33] <|Chrizz|> ActionParsnip: I'll let it reinstal now, lets see what it does. thx
[10:33] <Tyrath> ActionParsnip: does that apply to me and my situation aswell?
[10:33] <gammy> rdw200169_: Wow you've gone way over my head :).
[10:33] <ditch64> ActionParsnip: ok, im on live CD now when i type sudo grub, it doesnt probe for devices, ill put in setup (hd0) and it says not a valid device, but i know for a face it is
[10:33] <Tyrath> ActionParsnip: the thing is... I never installed of a live cd
[10:33] <ActionParsnip> Tyrath: yeah, reinstall grub over the windows bootloader
[10:33] <rdw200169_> gammy: i go to columbia u., we compete with harvard in the ivy league
[10:33] <ditch64> ActionParsnip: fact*
[10:33] <Tyrath> ActionParsnip: can I do that without reinstalling ibex again?
[10:33] <ActionParsnip> ditch64: read the guide, its all there
[10:34] <ActionParsnip> ditch64: try sudo fdisk -l to see partitions / disks
[10:34] <fogobogo> well well well
[10:34] <ActionParsnip> Tyrath: totally, read the link
[10:34] <tripitaka> grep65535: this assumes you have an existing working installation. I'm going to give PXE a go
[10:34] <ActionParsnip> Tyrath: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub -
[10:34] <gammy> rdw200169_: Ahh. I've never been to the U.S. :|
[10:34] <Tyrath> ActionParsnip: sorry, i missed the link. and can't find it. what was it again?
[10:35] <ActionParsnip> Tyrath: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub
[10:35] <Tyrath> ActionParsnip: ah k thanks
[10:35] <jaynrach> hi all, Im having probs getting my trust webcam to work on ubunutu, any ideas please?? its usb2
[10:35] <gammy> rdw200169_: Do you actually stay in dorms there?
[10:35] <grep65535> tripitaka: ah, good call, my co-worker i think did that with success awhile back
[10:35] <ActionParsnip> !webcam | jaynrach
[10:35] <rdw200169_> gammy: god, no, i pay for a garbage room in upper manhattan
[10:35] <ditch64> ActionParsnip: Error 17: Cannot mount selected partition
[10:35] <Tyrath> ActionParsnip: I'm currently in console mode (i keep on forgetting to open up a terminal lol) is there anyway I can copy that to the buffer so I can put it across consoles?
[10:36] <jaynrach> k, thanks, will try
[10:36] <ActionParsnip> ditch64: then you need to verify you are using the correct partition
[10:37] <rdw200169_> gammy: a fourth floor walk-up with no air-conditioning
[10:37] <ditch64> ActionParsnip: my boot partition is on partition 1
[10:37] <ditch64> ActionParsnip: grub is loaded to hd0,1
[10:37] <fogobogo> ditch64: ok
[10:37] <ActionParsnip> Tyrath: yeah you can write it to a file I guess, if its konsole / terminal yu can copy / paste
[10:37] <gammy> rdw200169_: Ah that's more like it I suppose!
[10:37] <xukun> anybody?
[10:37] <ActionParsnip> ditch64: well you need to verify stuff, if its all correct it'd boot
[10:38] <fogobogo> xukun: what?
[10:38] <rdw200169_> gammy: sure... i come back from iraq just to get the same thing...
[10:38] <xukun> fogobogo, I made some changes through the ATI Catalsys Control Center for my crt tv's  but now when I reboot the system x crashes, how can I undo this? there is?
[10:39] <Tyrath> ActionParsnip: yeh. it doesn't work for me. anyhow I retyped the link but can't find where it specifies how to do it without a live CD
[10:39] <ditch64> ActionParsnip: ahh, my boot is set to sda3, i forgot the command to change it to sda1
[10:39] <xukun> fogobogo, without the crt tv connected(s-video) everything works
[10:39] <fogobogo> xukun: sorry. no idea about ati
[10:39] <ActionParsnip> ditch64: see
[10:39] <ActionParsnip> ditch64: check stuff over if its no good ;)
[10:40] <ditch64> ActionParsnip: lol, well hey, i JUST did this on my buddys computer and it worked exactly how im doing it tho
[10:40] <tripitaka> jaunty is -current, right?
[10:40] <ActionParsnip> Tyrath: ive not done it without cd man
[10:40] <ActionParsnip> ditch64: different system, dude
[10:40] <ditch64> ActionParsnip: whats the command to change the boot partition
[10:40] <ActionParsnip> ditch64: unless his partitions are identical to yours
[10:40] <tripitaka> grep65535: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/jaunty/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/
[10:40] <vincent> why does aMSN use V4L and camorama not?
[10:40] <ActionParsnip> !bootoptions | ditch64
[10:40] <ditch64> ActionParsnip: ya they are, we installed them next to each other
[10:40] <ditch64> ActionParsnip: thx
[10:41] <ct529> If you have a package installed, how do you get information on how was the package configured at compilation time?
[10:41] <Tyrath> ActionParsnip: when I do fdisk -l it tells me: cannot open /dev/sda :(
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> Tyrath: sudo fdisk -l
[10:42] <grep65535> tripitaka: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation  <--- a fat list of install methods
[10:42] <ditch64> ActionParsnip: another problem, i booted the computer and got to grub and said i cannot mount the selected partition
[10:42] <Tyrath> ActionParsnip: lol thanks
[10:42] <grep65535> tripitaka: nice
[10:42] <bluefoxx> hehe
[10:42] <ditch64> ActionParsnip: might this be the reason
[10:42] <bluefoxx> fixed it
[10:42] <bluefoxx> just have to see if it will allow more resolutions now...
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> bluefoxx: wtg
[10:43] <JonathanEllis> I have mounted an extra partition as /home/jonathan/extraspace but a media icon for it still appears on the desktop, showing as "6GB Media". Can I rename this or hide it, but yet still have usb sticks show on the desktop?
[10:43] <gammy> rdw200169_: Move to Sweden. No a/c required.
[10:43] <Guest66995> why does aMSN use v4l and does camorama not?
[10:43] <fogobogo> Guest66995: why not? i mean there shouldnt be any problem with that
[10:43] <rdw200169_> gammy: nah, i like capitalism too much
[10:43] <bluefoxx> dang
[10:43] <ActionParsnip> Guest66995: make a symlink to v4l so camorama is ok
[10:44] <bluefoxx> still stuck at 800xfreaking 600
[10:44] <Tyrath> ActionParsnip: is it normal to only get one partition showing?
[10:44] <gammy> rdw200169_: Haha! Well, I'm going to lunch. Have a good one.
[10:44]  * bluefoxx really hates this resolution
[10:44] <ActionParsnip> Guest66995: or configure camorama to use v4l
[10:44] <rdw200169_> gammy: enjoy your tea
[10:44] <Tyrath> ActionParsnip: it tells me: dev/sda1 and that's it
[10:44] <Tyrath> ActionParsnip: shouldn't there be the windows one there aswell?
[10:44] <ActionParsnip> Tyrath: you should have 2 at least, / and /swap
[10:44] <ActionParsnip> Tyrath: if its on the same disk then yes
[10:44] <Guest66995> camorama is ok, aMSN isn't
[10:45] <ditch64> ActionParsnip: would this problem that i have be the reason that it couldnt mount the selected kernal or w/e when i got to grub?
[10:45] <Guest66995> fogobogo ActionParship
[10:45] <Guest66995> fogobogo ActionParsnip
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> Guest66995: then invert what i said
[10:45] <|Chrizz|> my friend on msn: "I was installing ubuntu, but it gave me a bluescreen"
[10:45] <Guest66995> configure aMSN to use not use v4l
[10:45] <Tyrath> ActionParsnip: see that confuses me, cause if I want to work on windows I still have to mount a partition :/
[10:45] <Guest60226> hi after installing moodle using synaptic if I go to http://localhost/moodle I just see a blank page
[10:46] <ActionParsnip> Guest66995: whatever thin amsn uses, make a symlink to v4l
[10:46] <subdolus> whats a bash command that can search a directory recursively and display identicaly named files?
[10:46] <Guest66995> HOW?
[10:46] <ardchoille> I turned on normal effects but my titlebar disappeared. What am I doing wrong?
[10:46] <subdolus> anyone?
[10:46] <grep65535> |Chrizz|: ask him if his Ubuntu serial is still valid
[10:46] <ActionParsnip> Tyrath: well yea for booting, then grub kicks windows chainloader off and you get windows booting
[10:46] <C0p3rn1c> is there any1 in here who can get the medion 7134 card to work?
[10:46] <Aperculum> do you know if ubuntu is going to include easy-to-use backup utility as default sometime soon?
[10:46] <C0p3rn1c> http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/DVB-T_PCI_Cards#Medion
[10:46] <ActionParsnip> Guest66995: kill caps
[10:46] <Guest66995> ln -s
[10:47] <bluefoxx_> ok, well, i have X working again, but it's not liking the way my xorg is i think. anyone want to see what i missed? Section "ServerLayout"
[10:47] <bluefoxx_> 	Identifier     "X.org Configured"
[10:47] <bluefoxx_> 	Screen      0  "Screen0" 0 0
[10:47] <bluefoxx_> 	InputDevice    "Mouse0" "CorePointer"
[10:47] <bluefoxx_> 	InputDevice    "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
[10:47] <FloodBot3> bluefoxx_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:47] <Aperculum> there was great article about timevault somewhere
[10:47] <Guest66995> ?
[10:47] <Tyrath> ActionParsnip: ah fairenough
[10:47] <bluefoxx_> EndSection
[10:47] <grep65535> doh
[10:47] <|Chrizz|> grep65535: LOL.
[10:47] <vinny> ActionParsnip ln -s aMSN v4l?
[10:47] <|Chrizz|> Guest60226 Is there a webpage in the install directory?
[10:47] <ActionParsnip> Guest66995: find out what amsn uses as cam, then find out what camorama uses then symlink. if youo give me the 2 devicenames i can give you the command
[10:48] <ActionParsnip> vinny: its gonna be something like sudo ln -s /dev/vl /del/<whatever amsn uses>
[10:48] <avoinea> hey guys !
[10:48] <ActionParsnip> something along those lines
[10:48] <grep65535> well at least bluefoxx fixed it lol
[10:48] <avoinea> I have a problem with skype and my mic, any hints ?
[10:48] <Setheck> Can someone help me with connecting to an HDTV and compensating for overscan?
[10:49] <grep65535> avoinea: what kinda mic? built into cam, headphones, ...
[10:49] <bluefoxx_> anyways
[10:49] <bluefoxx_> ok, well, i have X working again, but it's not liking the way my xorg is i think. anyone want to see what i missed? http://paste.ubuntu.com/71310/
[10:49] <avoinea> grep65535: external connected to my notebook
[10:49] <grep65535> avoinea, usb?
[10:49] <cYmen> I set a keyboard layout in xorg.conf but it seems to change to something else on every reboot or logout or whatever. Where else can this be controlled?
[10:50] <avoinea> grep65535: mic = microphone, sorry, not usb
[10:50] <fogobogo> cYmen: xorg.conf
[10:50] <avoinea> :)
[10:50] <xyzabc> how it is the easies way to schrunk a NTFS partition to install ubuntu
[10:50] <Setheck> Is there a specific chat for X11/nvidia/video help?
[10:50] <xyzabc> easiest way
[10:51] <ActionParsnip> xyzabc: gparted in livecd
[10:51] <grep65535> avoinea: make sure all your sound input isn't muted, unfortunately the volume manager differs depending on your hardware i think
[10:51] <C0p3rn1c> Setheck:  just ask your question here
[10:51] <threequarks> has anyone else experienced gnome not loading from the live cd of ibex.  i get the mouse cursor and a light brown background, but gnome never loads.
[10:51] <threequarks> just wondering if this is a common problem.
[10:51] <ditch64> great, now i have 2 partitions marked as boot
[10:51] <|Chrizz|> You got to be kidding me..
[10:51] <xyzabc> i have two partitions one with the operational system and other with data, i wanna reshrunk the data partition.. piece of cake, right?
[10:51] <|Chrizz|> I was installing ubuntu on my laptop, battery died, so laptop shut off. Now my grub loader is dead :O
[10:52] <fat_rat> http://en.securitylab.ru/nvd/362744.php is 8.04 safe?
[10:52] <xyzabc> |Chrizz|:  hehe
[10:52] <grep65535> avoinea: alsa always mutes my fiance's mic every time she reboots for some reason
[10:52] <Setheck> C0p3rnlc: I am trying to hook up an HDTV to ubuntu 8.10 but the screen seems to be overscanning to larger than the TV's physical size, is there a way to correct this?
[10:52] <xyzabc> install without energy? that's too much adrenaline for me
[10:53] <bluefoxx> |Chrizz|; you should be on a adaptor when installing anyways. never safe to do anything on battery only[never smart at least]
[10:53] <|Chrizz|> xyzabc: I forgot to plug in the adapter. About your problem, eh, In the partitioner, you can rsize them
[10:53] <ActionParsnip> !nvidia | Setheck
[10:53] <xyzabc> that's cool
[10:53] <xyzabc> i'm a old school linuxer but i'm long time just using OSX :-)
[10:53] <Setheck> Thanks, I will look
[10:53] <Tyrath> ActionParsnip: is it bad if something is mounted on /host ?
[10:54] <tripitaka> grep65535: Thanks for the advice
[10:54] <xyzabc> in my time there was some limitation about install a linux over 1024 cyllineder and shits like that
[10:54] <Tyrath> ActionParsnip: cause it told me windows was mounted on /host
[10:54] <grep65535> avoinea: also, when I add "input source"s from my volume>preferences, I can choose between 'front mic' and 'mic'  amongst others, might want to make sure that's all set correctly as well
[10:54] <elkbuntu> xyzabc, keep the language clean please :)
[10:54] <grep65535> tripitaka: np :)
[10:54] <C0p3rn1c> Setheck: I had some problems with tv-out too, you better google the awnser, I dident find it yet sorry
[10:55] <ActionParsnip> Tyrath: you can mount to any folder you lie (just not in /proc)
[10:55] <C0p3rn1c> brb
[10:55] <avoinea> grep65535: I see, making some tests
[10:55] <Iscariot> Hey, I was wondering if there was anyone here that could help me in setting up a KVM.
[10:55]  * avoinea playing with sound settings ... :)
[10:56] <Tyrath> ActionParsnip: ok I've got this dilemma. when I check the partitions it shows up with only one - windows. so there's no way for me to mount ubuntu
[10:56] <Iscariot> (kernel virtual machine not keyboard video mouse)
[10:57] <ronny> hi
[10:57] <ActionParsnip> Tyrath: id try a reboot, see if it helps some
[10:57] <Tyrath> ActionParsnip: I'm thinking that could be partially because I'm reading the live CD tutorial
[10:57] <Tyrath> ActionParsnip: could that be it? and is there actually a non live cd tutorial?
[10:57] <Setheck> C0p3rn1c: you have over/underscan issues that remain unresolved?
[10:58] <aksci> my firefox crashes everytime i open up a new profile on orkut!!!
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> Tyrath: no idea, ive always pointed folks to that guide
[10:58] <aksci> has any1 faced d same thing>
[10:58] <ronny> i just installed virtualbox, but all i get when traing to run is "Could not find VirtualBox installation. Please reinstall."
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> aksci: killall firefox; mv ~/.mozilla ~/.mozilla_old; firefox &
[10:58] <grep65535> avoinea: hopefully this isn't your case: http://linux.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/Ubuntu/2008-10/msg02814.html
[10:58] <aksci> @ronny, is it the non-ose version?
[10:58] <_ruben> Iscariot: try #ubuntu-virt
[10:58] <avoinea> ActionParsnip: grep65535: Ok, playing with sound recorder I hear some noise ...
[10:59] <vinny> ActionParsnip I still don't get what you mean
[10:59] <Iscariot> Thanks ruben
[10:59] <johansja> anyone using partimage here?
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> vinny: about what?
[10:59] <vinny> what /del/ ?
[10:59] <vinny> your quicklink command
[10:59] <ardchoille> johansja: I use partimage weekly
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> vinny: ok i'll do this slow
[10:59] <|Chrizz|> I made a small typing error, system beep scared the * out of me :( (its loud)
[11:00] <vinny> its gonna be something like sudo ln -s /dev/vl /del/<whatever amsn uses>
[11:00] <ActionParsnip> vinny: everything in your system is represented as a folder in /dev
[11:00] <johansja> ardchoille: what is the normal filesize needed to backup a 40gb partition?
[11:00] <aksci> ActionParsnip,  is this to move my private data to another?... will this remove all my private settings?
[11:00] <vinny> including video0
[11:00] <johansja> *partition size
[11:00] <ActionParsnip> vinny: some programs expect certain device names for hardware but this is not always the case
[11:00] <vinny>  ActionParsnip as a folder or as a file?
[11:00] <adam7> |Chrizz|: sudo rmmod pcspkr should stop it from beeping at you
[11:00] <grep65535> avoinea: awesome, i have one more link for you to check out unless it's working >>
[11:01] <ActionParsnip> vinny: so if you know the one it is, you can create a symbolic link to essentially make a copy of the dev
[11:01] <ardchoille> johansja: No idea. My sda1 is 6gb and it packs down to under a gig with gz compression
[11:01] <|Chrizz|> adam7: Im still reinstalling ubuntu, so there is not much shutting off at the moment.
[11:01] <ardchoille> How do I get a titlebar when I have effects turned on? Titlebar disappeared.
[11:01] <ActionParsnip> vinny: the system sees it as identical, you can create symlinks to files or folders, its transparent to the system
[11:01] <vinny> the program expects the dev to use v4l but it doesn't so I make a symbolic link from dev to 4vl
[11:02] <vinny> v4l*
[11:02] <ActionParsnip> vinny: so (example) if a webcam is represented by /dev/webcam but gyache expects it on /dev/goats you can run sudo ln -s /dev/webcam /dev/goats and it will then work
[11:02] <|Chrizz|> grep65535: My friend is really believing the serial key story
[11:03] <cYmen> what do you use to edit runlevels?
[11:03] <ActionParsnip> vinny: dont symlink /dev thats gonna cause hell
[11:03] <vinny> ok but what if gyache expects it to worktogether with  with 4vl
[11:03] <ActionParsnip> vinny: you make the symlink inside /dev/
[11:03] <grep65535> |Chrizz|: next in line is to ask if he burned the ISO with the activation crack on it  ;-)
[11:03] <vinny> to parallely startup 4vl
[11:03] <chuk_m> does anyone know in which package the sound card drivers on 8.04 are?
[11:03] <ActionParsnip> vinny: no idea, its jus a file, the kernel will handle any resource squabbles
[11:03] <vinny> let me try
[11:03] <|Chrizz|> rofl
[11:04] <vinny> ActionParsnip so then I'll have to rename video0 to video and make ln -s video0 video + 4vl or something
[11:05] <mercutio22> I am desperate here. Yesterday I went to sleep and today I woke up to find grub is gone and my ubuntu partition is marked as unallocated space! I did open the vista partition editor yesterday to check how my hd was partitioned. Can someone help me verify if my files are still here and if its recoverable?
[11:05] <grep65535> |Chrizz|: just think windows, and torture at will with these hybrid questions lol
[11:05] <grep65535> mercutio22: doh!
[11:05] <vinny> ActionParsnip don't leave me now!
[11:06] <mercutio22> oh man... all my work
[11:06] <mercutio22> all the fine tuning
[11:06] <ActionParsnip> vinny: no,
[11:06] <grep65535> mercutio22: too bad it wasn't the other way around right?  Vista deserves it.
[11:06] <[mbm]> mercutio22: vista will display anything it doesn't understand as unpartitioned space, but that won't actually delete it
[11:06] <hellboy3> hey how many of you know chris pirillo
[11:06] <ActionParsnip> vinny: if a program expects a name that is different from what it expects yuoo make a symlink
[11:06] <ActionParsnip> vinny: thats all there is to it
[11:07] <mercutio22> mbm, really, how can I undo the damage then?
[11:07] <grep65535> mercutio22: unless you have an ext driver, looking at it from within Vista might not really tell you much
[11:07] <vinny> ActionParsnip!!!!!!!
[11:07] <ubuntu> hello
[11:07] <ActionParsnip> vinny: ?
[11:07] <ubuntu> where can i get help with external hdd and grub? :)
[11:07] <mercutio22> grep65535: I am looking at it from the ubuntu live cd now
[11:07] <ikonia> ubuntu just ask the question
[11:07] <grep65535> mercutio22: boot with a liveCD and try to repair GRUB...... oh i c .. hmm
[11:08] <[mbm]> mercutio22: are you sure it is damaged? what exactly did you do
[11:08] <vinny> if I link it to 4vl won't it forget to run video0 afterwards?
[11:08] <Blaze> ok, so i have hdd external usb and i have windows xp installed on my internal hdd
[11:08] <hsarkar> I hibernated my system, it failed to hibernate, I had to restart manually, then sound stopped working, am using ubuntu 8.10
[11:08] <ActionParsnip> vinny: if its a symlink, its exactly the same thing just with 2 names
[11:08] <Guest24655> during the installation of Ubuntu i told it to put the grub files on /dev/sdb2
[11:08] <mercutio22> mbm I am not sure it is damaged. Gparted display it as unallocated space
[11:08] <Guest24655> or just /dev/sdb
[11:08] <ActionParsnip> vinny: i cant see how i can be any clearer
[11:08] <Guest24655> but now when i try to boot from the usb hard disk i get an error 22
[11:09] <JonathanEllis> I have several partitions mounted via fstab. One of them (which is mounted as /home/jonathan/extraspace appears on the desktop labelled "6.5GB Media" and in "Computer" as if it were a usb stick or CD ROM mounted in /media. It's only this one partition that is doing this and it's rather annoying. Any ideas how to stop this behaviour?
[11:09] <vinny> I'll try I'll try
[11:09] <[mbm]> mercutio22: did you move any partitions?
[11:09] <Guest24655> so.. can anyone guide me
[11:09] <grep65535> mercutio22: tell vista "you're fired!", then proceed to say that to the next person you see. u'll feel better maybe. :-/
[11:09] <ActionParsnip> vinny: check pm
[11:09] <apadox> hi, can omeone help me .. i can't connect to a wireless network that have no encription on and i can connect normaly via windows xp
[11:09]  * ActionParsnip takes out his spoon
[11:10] <Blaze777> ok.. i don't think anyone noticed so i'll try to ask again
[11:10] <mercutio22> mbm, no, I just clicked on top of my linux partition wondering whether it could be resized. But I did not apply any changes
[11:10] <ActionParsnip> apadox: have you installed wifi drivers
[11:10] <ikonia> Blaze777 we did
[11:10] <Blaze777> :D
[11:10] <hellboy3> can any one help me setup wine in ubuntu 8.10 ,i am downloading it right now from add remove programs
[11:10] <Blaze777> sorry, ok
[11:10] <grep65535> avoinea: mic workin?
[11:10] <apadox> ActionParsnip yes, i can see network in network manager
[11:10] <ikonia> !wine > hellboy3
[11:10] <apadox> and other networks too
[11:10] <JonathanEllis> !wine @hellboy3
[11:10] <grep65535> mercutio22: you could try mounting it, success vs failure at that might say something significant about the state it's in
[11:11] <hellboy3> ok so i am changing my channel
[11:11] <mercutio22> grep65535: how do I do that?
[11:11] <ActionParsnip> apadox: means nothing, run lshw -C network
[11:11] <ActionParsnip> apadox: if it says unclaimed yu need a driver
[11:11] <grep65535> mercutio22: in terminal, type    fdisk -l      and note which /dev/ it's on
[11:12] <grep65535> mercutio22: then        mount /dev/xxxx
[11:12] <JonathanEllis> mercutio22: I am guessing vistas partition editor will have changed things even though it didnt tell you. Probably the best bet is to boot your system from a livecd and then use ubuntus partition editor to fix things
[11:12] <grep65535> mercutio22: sorry,   mount /dev/xxxx   /to/some/place
[11:12] <apadox> ok actionparsnip .. going reboot .. something else to do while I am in linux?
[11:12] <mercutio22> grep65535: the output says it cannot open /dev/sda
[11:12] <vinny> sorry for pissing you off
[11:12] <Blaze777> ikonia: can you help me solve my Error 22 (grub) problem?
[11:12] <grep65535> hmm, with liveCD which directory is writeable, anyone know/remember?
[11:13] <gtrml> Which codec do I have to install to watch mms-streams?
[11:13] <hellboy3> can some one tell me what is the channel for wine
[11:13] <ikonia> Blaze777 you've installed grub pointing at the wrong partition
[11:13] <Blaze777> i know..
[11:13] <Blaze777> ikonia: so where should i install it?
[11:13] <[mbm]> mercutio22: guessing if anything it only nuked the partition table; just run fdisk and recreate the parition in the same spot
[11:13] <ikonia> Blaze777 where ever your boot data is
[11:13] <grep65535> mercutio22: mount /dev/sda1 /tmp
[11:13] <mercutio22> mbm
[11:13] <ikonia> Blaze777: grub is on the correct master boot record
[11:13] <mercutio22> grep65535: hang on, mdm might be right
[11:13] <ikonia> Blaze777: but it points at non-existant boot data
[11:14] <Blaze777> ikonia: how can i solve this problem?
[11:14] <grep65535> mercutio22: well,    fdisk /dev/sda      and see what IT says about your partition table      should just be  'p'  to print it out
[11:14] <ikonia> Blaze777 re-apply grub to look at the correct boot info
[11:14] <mercutio22> mbm, how exactly do I recreatle the partition table?
[11:15] <Blaze777> ikonia: can you guide me to do that?
[11:15] <ikonia> !grub > Blaze777
[11:15] <mercutio22> grep65535: ok, saw your msg now.. just a sec
[11:16] <Tyrath> I think I've worked out what the problem is. When I look at the partition list it says that the system of the partition is NTFS. do i need to reconfigure the partition?
[11:16] <aksci> !mod
[11:16] <mylisto> hey everyone...back for more :)
[11:16] <mercutio22> grep65535: it says unable to open /dev/sda so I guess I have to mount it first?
[11:17] <Tyrath> !partition
[11:17] <[mbm]> mercutio22: sda is a disk, not a partition
[11:17] <|Chrizz|> ActionParsnip: It works after a reinstallation
[11:17] <mylisto> I'm trying to add some plugins into my audacity plugin folder...which is at /usr/share/audacity
[11:17] <mylisto> but I don't have permission to do so...
[11:17] <mylisto> How can I get permission?  Do I need to be root?
[11:17] <aksci> can any1 help me with my firefox?... it crashes everytime i open up a new profile on orkut. i want to do this without affecting my current settings
[11:17] <Tyrath> mylisto: yes
[11:17] <Tyrath> mylisto: sudo -i
[11:17] <mylisto> thanks
[11:17] <grep65535> mercutio22: yea, sda is the disk   "sda1" is the first partition (if it exists) sda2, sda3, etc
[11:17] <punktalk> anyone can help with video card?
[11:17] <aksci> can it be due to installation of any addon or pluggin?
[11:19] <mercutio22> grep65535, mbm ok, I see. From the partition editor i' d guess my partition is /dev/sda4
[11:19] <Tyrath> how do I make windows and ubuntu into separate partitions?
[11:19] <mylisto> tyrath: I did that...but I still don't have acccess
[11:19] <grep65535> mercutio22: fdisk shouldn't really have much advantage over gparted,   if you're not used to CLI tools
[11:19] <aksci> Tryath, separate partitions as in?
[11:19] <Tyrath> mylisto: how did you do that?
[11:19] <kongove> Hello. everyone.
[11:19] <mylisto> went to terminal and did sudo -i
[11:19] <Tyrath> aksci: as in if I do fdisk -l I only get one partition showing
[11:20] <mylisto> so now it says root@username
[11:20] <grep65535> mercutio22: you could try mounting sda4 to somewhere then
[11:20] <Mal3ko> guys, how do we create a filelist containing all files in a folder, along with their relative paths?
[11:20] <mercutio22> grep65535: mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[11:20] <Tyrath> mylisto: that's bizarre - what are you typing?
[11:20] <grep65535> mercutio22: mount /dev/sda4 /tmp
[11:20] <mercutio22> oh man
[11:20] <aksci> Tryath, they're already installed on a separate partition right?
[11:20] <mylisto> then I tried to drag a plugin into /usr/share/audacity/plug-ins
[11:20] <grep65535> mercutio22: mount -t ext3 /dev/sda4 /tmp
[11:20] <Tyrath> Mal3ko: ls -l
[11:20] <mylisto> whats bizre?
[11:20] <mylisto> bizzrfe
[11:20] <mylisto> bizzare
[11:20] <grep65535> mercutio22: depends on what you used.. if default I believe it's ext3
[11:21] <Tyrath> mylisto: bizarre = weird
[11:21] <kleftisx> Hello, I have upgrade to Ubuntu 8.10 (amd64). And when going to activate desktop effects normal or extra i get the following error: "The Composite extension is not available."
[11:21] <mylisto> no it says root@mylisto-latop:
[11:21] <callkalpa1> anyone using mysql server
[11:21] <[mbm]> mercutio22: you shouldn't need to specify -t ext3 .. mount will guess if you don't tell it
[11:21] <callkalpa1> ?
[11:21] <grep65535> mercutio22: I'm saying /tmp only cuz I forget what else is writable under liveCD
[11:21] <ditch64> in grub when i type find /boot/grub/stage1 it says HD0,1  well i type setup hd0,1 and it doesnt work says error 17 cannot mount selected partition
[11:21] <m0niker> hello all
[11:21] <[mbm]> mercutio22: what livecd are you using?
[11:21] <Mal3ko> Tyrath: i mean list like this: /home/user/Desktop/file1.txt & /home/user/Desktop/file2.txt
[11:22] <subir> is it wise to install LAMP from source on Ubuntu server or the default installtion from CD is fine?
[11:22] <basti> Mal3ko, ls -aR > list.txt
[11:22] <mercutio22> grep65535, mbm: yes, my partition was ext3. http://www.pastebin.ca/1255137
[11:22] <basti> play wit the ls options Mal3ko
[11:22] <grep65535> subir: default is fine unless you need some specific configure/make options set
[11:22] <mylisto> not sure what I need to do
[11:23] <mercutio22> mbm theintrepid ibex one
[11:23] <Baversjo> Hello! I have Installed Vista -> XP -> Ubuntu and I can boot Vista and XP in grub now but how can i add XP?
[11:23] <usamahashimi> Hello everyone!
[11:23] <usamahashimi> How can I share my DSL (internet) with 2 more PCs?
[11:23] <subir> grep65535, i need to have LAMP with SVN, mysqladmin and trac or something as well
[11:23] <JonathanEllis> ﻿JonathanEllis: This is a test - please ignore
[11:23] <[mbm]> mercutio22: type "fdisk -l" .. any lines ending with "83 linux" ?
[11:23] <bazhang> !ics | usamahashimi
[11:23] <icqnumber> !grub | Baversjo
[11:23] <subir> grep65535, so is it fine w/ the default installation of LAMP on ubuntu server?
[11:24] <ditch64> in grub when i type find /boot/grub/stage1 it says HD0,1  well i type setup hd0,1 and it doesnt work says error 17 cannot mount selected partition
[11:24] <grep65535> mercutio22: maybe checking the disk, what ya think |mbm|? fsck.ext3 /dev/sda4
[11:24] <grep65535> subir: I'm not sure about trac
[11:24] <[mbm]> grep65535: checking the obvious first, otherwise it's file -s /dev/... to see what the partition is
[11:24] <aksci> ditch64, shouldn't you first put root (hd0,1)?
[11:24] <mercutio22> mbm  that outputs Cannot open /dev/sda
[11:24] <grep65535> subir: I don't see why you couldn't just add it after anyway
[11:24] <mylisto> could anyone explain to me why I can't move a file to /urs/share/audacity/plug-ins
[11:25] <mylisto> I'm root
[11:25] <ditch64> aksci: ya i have done that but it still doesnt boot
[11:25] <icqnumber> !dualboot | Baversjo
[11:25] <neeto> what's the command to save your session?
[11:25] <subir> grep65535, ok
[11:25] <mercutio22> grep65535: fsck.ext3: Attempt to read block from filesystem resulted in short read while trying to open /dev/sda4
[11:25] <mercutio22> Could this be a zero-length partition?
[11:25] <ditch64> aksci: something that might help though, when i boot it says error 12 or something, cannot mount selected partition, BUT i press E on the root thing and change it from HD0,0 to HD0,1 it boots
[11:25] <benpicco> Hi, what causes my gnome panel to shuffle randomly?
[11:26] <ditch64> aksci: but it wont save
[11:26] <Baversjo> icqnumber: thx I'll try that
[11:26] <aksci> try editing /menu.lst
[11:26] <grep65535> mercutio22: hmm.. well given that you see "sda4" ... u do see that somewhere right?  that means that it's not "unallocated space"
[11:26] <mercutio22> mbm, grep65535, ok, the problem is the real partition is /dev/sda6
[11:27] <[mbm]> mercutio22: how'd you figure?
[11:27] <mylisto> can anyone help me?
[11:27] <ditch64> nvm i think i got it BRB
[11:27] <aksci> ditch64, how mean it wont save?... edit it with sudo
[11:27] <ditch64> aksci: like at the bootloader
[11:28] <grep65535> mercutio22: and you get a grub error, so ....then you should have sda1 somewhere
[11:28] <ditch64> aksci: i have a chance to edit stuff
[11:28] <Aque0s> Hey all, I am here on my new ubuntu installation - I decided to drop Windows all together and am going to run Linux
[11:28] <ditch64> aksci: i can temporarly change it manually,
[11:28] <chuk_m> could someone on 8.04 please run  dpkg -S snd-maestro3 and tell me which package is it  part of
[11:28] <mercutio22> grep65535, mbm http://www.pastebin.ca/1255139
[11:28] <ditch64> aksci: brb
[11:28] <ditch64> aksci: thanks
[11:28] <mylisto> me to aque0s:
[11:28] <aksci> ditch64  sudo nano ~/menu.lst
[11:28] <mylisto> loev it so far
[11:28] <Aque0s> I have a DELL Latitude D820 laptop, which is fully 'supported', so im happy
[11:28] <Fish-Guts> hello. i have a problem with the clipboard in rdesktop under hardy. i connect to a windows 2003 terminal server, using RDPv5 and i pass -r clipboard:PRIMARYCLIPBOARD. but the clip doesn't work all. any ideas what might be the problem?
[11:28] <mercutio22> mbm I counted in the partition editor gui
[11:29] <grep65535> mercutio22: maybe that's yer swap er something, if you say sda6 is the right one
[11:29] <Aque0s> but - (mostly to learn more) I started with Ubuntu Minimal (8.10) so i literally have nothing
[11:29] <usamahashimi> bazhang, thanks, lemme check it
[11:29] <[mbm]> mercutio22: that's not the partition
[11:29] <grep65535> mercutio22: do you remember your partition layout?
[11:29] <Aque0s> I have installed E17, using the easy_e17.sh script
[11:29] <Aque0s> and xchat, and a few other apps
[11:29] <ndlovu> if I change my motherboard, will ubuntu adapt by itself or could it cause problems?
[11:29] <Aque0s> but I need help installing all my drivers and getting my system up to scratch
[11:29] <aksci> my pidgin crashes as soon as i join this chatroom!... can ne1 get whats wrong?
[11:29] <tdn> I need to set up an Ubuntu pc in KIOSK mode for a cyber cafe. Is there a recommended way of doing this in Ubuntu? I have not been able to find any very useful info on this.
[11:30] <wayneward> yolp
[11:30] <wayneward> is there a channel for gos?
[11:30] <wayneward> or just use ubuntu like..
[11:30] <mercutio22> grep65535, mbm how do I take a screenshot of a window, I could paste you the view from gparted, so you can know better
[11:30] <grep65535> ndlovu: I've done that with Fedora and it worked fine on 2 servers, Ubuntu = linux, so shouldn't be too much difference
[11:31] <Aque0s> Anyone willing to take me through this process?
[11:31] <Aque0s> PLEASE :D
[11:31] <grep65535> mercutio22: print-screen key work?
[11:31] <_StefanS_> hi there
[11:31] <ndlovu> grep65535, I'll plug and pray :)
[11:31] <[mbm]> mercutio22: trying to figure out why it isn't showing sda ; wondering if the livecd loaded support for the disk
[11:31] <_StefanS_> any solutions for that issue with java applets under firefox 3 ?
[11:31] <chuk_m> PLEASE someone here running HARDY run dpkg -S snd-maestro3 and tell me which package is it from
[11:31] <mercutio22> grep65535: that takes a pic from the whole desktop
[11:31] <usamahashimi> bazhang, this is about ubuntu guide, i am asking about the hardware and its setup?
[11:32] <grep65535> ndlovu: good luck... with the kernel now-a-days it *should* be fine
[11:32] <_StefanS_> thats the issue where firefox freezes, and uses 100% cpu
[11:32] <aksci> my pidgin crashes as soon as i join this chatroom!... can ne1 tellme whats goin wrong?
[11:32] <mercutio22> mbm I think the vista partition editor screwed the partition table like you said
[11:32] <Oprtz> when i click to start wifi-radar program it gives me followoing error (Failed to execute child process "su-to-root" (No such file or directory)
[11:33] <LordCrc> hi, are there any free solutions to getting basic (software) opengl over vnc?
[11:33] <aksci> mrecutio22, you on a lappy?... with preinstalled vista?
[11:33] <[mbm]> mercutio22: sda is the disk, not the partition .. livecd should be able to see the disk .. I don't understand why fdisk said it couldn't read sda
[11:33] <aksci> mercutio22, you on a lappy?... with preinstalled vista?
[11:33] <[mbm]> mercutio22: dumb question .. when you ran "fdisk -l" .. were you logged in as root?
[11:33] <grep65535> [mbm] wouldn't it just be a matter of mounting the partition with grub on it, and   grub install /dev/sdaX ?
[11:34] <aksci> [mbm], the prob is with the partitions vista set,... they're not in order... you'd get a line at the end saying partitions aren't in order
[11:34] <Baversjo> That gave me no luck. XP is not showing in the Grub-loader list, how can I fix that? I can see vista and Ubuntu, but not XP
[11:34] <neeto> LordCrc: It's a curious question, I think I managed to do it once a while ago using windows, and I wasn't able to get a stable framerate probably because of bandwidth
[11:35] <grep65535> somebody needs to take vista outside behind the shed and off it
[11:35] <ActionParsnip> !webcam > vinny
[11:35] <Tyrath> what's a program that allows me to create partitions? I don't currently have ubuntu hooked up to a partition. it's running off the windows partition :/
[11:35] <mercutio22> mbm dumb me, no.
[11:36] <LordCrc> neeto: im using my laptop for all my uni work, and this is for a visualization class, but it's much more comfortable to develop on my desktop machine, so i vnc over :)
[11:36] <Mal3ko> mmh..list cmd can't do the filelist i want
[11:36] <aksci> Baversjo, edit the ~/grub/menu.lst if xp doesn't exist ther!
[11:36] <[mbm]> mercutio22: right, so, anythign ending with "83 linux" ?
[11:36] <b3ta> hi can any one point me to a good latest doc on postfix+squirell mail
[11:36] <grep65535> [mbm] mercutio22 ahha
[11:36] <laobing> #ubuntu-cn
[11:36] <LordCrc> however that doesnt work so well when i have to run the apps locally :)
[11:36] <mercutio22> mbm, grep65535 http://www.pastebin.ca/1255143
[11:36] <Baversjo> aksci: It doesn't. should I just copy the vista entry and change the partition?
[11:37] <apadox> hi .. I have trouble connecting to my wireless network
[11:37] <apadox> i did lshw -C network here http://www.pastedump.com/paste/145
[11:37] <grep65535> oh my
[11:37] <Oprtz> when i click to start wifi-radar program it gives me following error (Failed to execute child process "su-to-root" (No such file or directory) any solution ?
[11:37] <[mbm]> mercutio22: try "file -s /dev/sda5" (as root)
[11:37] <aksci> Baversjo, no, just add another entry with the your xp partition properly.
[11:38] <luddite> i cant get cpu frequency scaling to work on my laptop. intel celeron M540 1.86Ghz CPU
[11:38] <grep65535> [mbm] that last partition doesn't have much space put to it...
[11:38] <Baversjo> aksci: How should I do that?
[11:38] <vladimir68> :-D
[11:38] <[mbm]> grep65535: just cruious what that partition is
[11:38] <aksci> Baversjo, sudo nano ~/grub/menu.lst
[11:38] <grep65535> [mbm], agreed on that
[11:39] <mercutio22> mbm /dev/sda5: x86 boot sector
[11:39] <neeto> LordCrc: I see. unfortunately, I don't think the vnc protocol is robust enough to handle the kind of traffic that would demand :/
[11:39] <LordCrc> hmm
[11:39] <LordCrc> bugger
[11:39] <ndlovu> my server randomly powers off, but there's an LED that stays lit on the motherboard... I haven't had a chance to test the memory yet, and now it's powering off a second after switching on. I'm thinking it could be CPU, motherboard or memory... anything else that could do this?
[11:39] <Baversjo> aksci: Could you help me determine which one is the XP partition when I do Fdisk, I can't figure it out
[11:40] <grep65535> ndlovu: power supply, or issues with the power connections.. ?
[11:40] <|Chrizz|> I have windows XP on the 1th partition, and ubuntu on the 2nd partition. Can i log in to windows while working in ubuntu?
[11:40] <aksci> try mounting the drive...
[11:40] <LordCrc> well cheers anyway, ill have to do it the hard way then :)
[11:40] <[mbm]> mercutio22: ok, guessing that gap 23201-38587 is where the partition used to be
[11:40] <grep65535> ndlovu: it's happened before...but then again.. all the things you mentioned have caused that too. so...
[11:40] <rdw200169_> ndlovu: you should look into an PCI card that reads the BIOS error code(s)
[11:40] <mercutio22> mbm, grep65535 http://imagebin.org/31081
[11:40] <neeto> LordCrc: Theoretically, I think the only way to do it would be to have like an openGL server that you could connect to with an openGL rendering client or something... they might have something like that?
[11:40] <davidw> so, any ideas how I can help get a bug fixed sooner, in terms of helping out?  this one is driving me nuts, and it's really embarassing that such a big regression crept into 8.10: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/272185
[11:40] <ndlovu> grep65535, well, the LED stays lit on the motherboard
[11:41] <aksci> Baversjo, try mounting the drive... you can get wher you've installed xp
[11:41] <ndlovu> grep65535, so there must be some power there
[11:41] <rdw200169_> ndlovu: does the computer speaker beep, ever?
[11:41] <k3pp0> hi
[11:41] <LordCrc> neeto: ah... i'll have to check that out, thanks
[11:41] <grep65535> ndlovu: sometimes P/S's die slowly, sometimes just dont get enough power.... and the other day when i was messing around in a case i unhooked a power connector somehow and it had same symptoms
[11:41] <rdw200169_> ndlovu: that means the BIOS posted...
[11:41] <Baversjo> aksci: It's mounted, how can I get which partition It is when It's mounted?
[11:41] <ndlovu> rdw200169_, nope... no beep
[11:42] <Baversjo> aksci: Here is Fdisk  -l, http://pastebin.com/d354db5df
[11:42] <aksci> Baversjo, if you're on a live disk, try gparted, sudo gparted
[11:42] <mercutio22> mbm yep!
[11:42] <ChrisW> is there a *lightweight* iso I can download for ubuntu?
[11:42] <ndlovu> grep65535, that could be it... I wish I had some spares around to test the various components: that's probably the only way to know for sure
[11:42] <Baversjo> aksci: I have installed the system, no Live disk :P
[11:42] <Frogzoo> ChrisW: nope
[11:43] <bazhang> !minimal | ChrisW
[11:43] <grep65535> [mbm] i'd be ready to call S O L on that....as far as ubuntu is concerned
[11:43] <rdw200169_> ndlovu: chances are your motherboard is not posting
[11:43] <ChrisW> I see Ibex is 700Mb, and I only have about 200Mb transfer left on this 3G card ;-)
[11:43] <bazhang> ChrisW, the minimal is 9mb
[11:43] <[mbm]> grep65535: I've recovered worse
[11:43] <grep65535> ndlovu: make sure everything's connected power-wise, possible even just unhook all but 1 drive to make sure... then start swapping parts if that doesn't work
[11:43] <ndlovu> rdw200169_, it used to shut down randomly when it was already up and running, so it used to post
[11:43] <rdw200169_> ndlovu: did it beep before the problem?
[11:43] <ChrisW> okay, will give it a go
[11:43] <LordCrc> ah, i almost forgot to ask
[11:43] <aksci> Baversjo, it has to be dev/sda1/...  but how can you install windows vista then?
[11:44] <|Chrizz|> WTF. I just got a popup: "You can't stop this operation by clicking cancel." The only button that i can clik says: "Cancel"
[11:44] <aksci> Baversjo, you cannot install vista or xp on a non-primary partition
[11:44] <grep65535> [mbm], true, but ...being walked through it over IRC? ;-)
[11:44] <rdw200169_> ndlovu: POST, is something like "pre operation system test" or something like that
[11:44] <LordCrc> is there any way to make linux/ubuntu NOT completely unresponsive under heavy memory load? i was quite suprised by this, since in this regard, my windows box is W A Y better
[11:44] <Mechdave> |Chrizz|, Looks like you are mounting a removable drive
[11:44] <[mbm]> mercutio22: ok, easy fix .. fdisk /dev/sda, then n for new partition, e for extended .. and then just accept the defaults and hit p
[11:44] <rdw200169_> ndlovu: it's when the bios tests the motherboard
[11:44] <ndlovu> rdw200169_, I don't remember for sure, but I imagine it would have done what it needed to since it loaded linux fine
[11:44] <grep65535> ndlovu: I did all that in reverse order only to discover my own mistake the long way ;-)
[11:44] <[mbm]> mercutio22: pastebin the results
[11:45] <Tyrath> can anyone help me put ubuntu on its own partition?
[11:45] <rdw200169_> ndlovu: i agree with the former poster though, that this is probably a power or temperature related issue, that should have been solved long ago
[11:45] <mercutio22> mbm, whats the extended partition?
[11:45] <rdw200169_> ndlovu: random shutdowns are an indication of a major issue
[11:46] <Tyrath> I've got one partition with both windows and ubuntu on it
[11:46] <wayneward> any way to get rhytmn box to remember my daap shares?
[11:46] <Tyrath> as a result I can't have ubuntu handling boot as windows rules the partition
[11:46] <rdw200169_> ndlovu: could even be something obscure like the compound between the cpu and the heat sink
[11:46] <ditch64> ok, straight out, some of you people can kinda be cocky, but very helpful, im happy you guys are here to help, i have learned a lot so far, thank you thank you thank you
[11:46] <ndlovu> rdw200169_, seemingly hard to pin down major issues :)
[11:46] <rdw200169_> ndlovu: did you build the computer, or is it off the shelf?
[11:46] <Mechdave> wayneward, for my DAAP shares rhythmbox just downloads the list after about 2 - 3 secs of clicking on the share
[11:46] <Baversjo> aksci: This is how I installed everything; First of the disk was totaly formated, nothing on it. Then I installed vista on a 80 gb partition (created in vista installation). Then I installed XP on a 20 GB partition created in the XP installation. I now had 200 unpartitioned diskspace. I Installed Ubuntu on all that diskspace.
[11:46] <woody86> when I try to install 8.10 on my laptop, it keeps on giving me different disk errors. What's a good program to run to check if the disc is ok or not?
[11:47] <[mbm]> mercutio22: legacy crap .. you can only have 4 partitions on the disk, after that one of the 4 has to be an "extended partition" with more partitions inside .. that blue outline you see in your screenshot
[11:47] <rdw200169_> woody86: scandisk
[11:47] <Baversjo> aksci: 200 gb*
[11:47] <Mechdave> woody86, try fsck
[11:47] <king2676> hello, im newbie in ubuntu, i wanted to deploy domain controller and together with file server, is there any guides of pdf books that i can follow?
[11:47] <mercutio22> mbm http://www.pastebin.ca/1255145
[11:47] <ndlovu> rdw200169_, I also suspected temperature, but I checked that with sensors, and it was fine... since it powers off at startup now, it's unlikely to be temperature. It was an off-the-shelf computer
[11:47] <wayneward> i have to tell my rythmn box the daap address everytime i use it!
[11:47] <rdw200169_> woody86: it's the best, but you have to pay for it... sorry, i meant spinrite
[11:48] <grep65535> king2676L howtoforge.com has some stuff I believe
[11:48] <Tyrath> Baversjo: if I have ubuntu and xp on the same partition can I relocate ubuntu to another partition?
[11:48] <Mechdave> wayneward, no DAAP should export the share across your network
[11:48] <Mechdave> wayneward, what DAAP server you using?
[11:48] <wayneward> mt-daaps
[11:48] <hellboy3> hey i tired record my desktop and it workek and i was also able to run half life 2 episode 2 in wine ,i wanted to record the creen ,but when i record in the video ,the recording is somewhat unclear in the gaming window
[11:48] <king2676> grep65535  thanks i'll check this one
[11:48] <wayneward> it just shows on amarok
[11:48] <Baversjo> Tyrath: I have no idea, I'm new to Ubuntu
[11:48] <aksci> Baversjo, so during installation?... did ubuntu prompt you for xp settings?!
[11:48] <[mbm]> mercutio22: you forgot the rest of it
[11:48] <rdw200169_> ndlovu: are you using an ungrounded power source? i.e. an old building or something?
[11:48] <wayneward> on rhtymn box i have to add
[11:49] <woody86> Mechdave, rdw200169_ ok, what would be something I can do from a live cd??
[11:49] <Tyrath> Baversjo: ah k. See I thought you installed both to different partitions. In which case I thought you would have set up a separate partition for each?
[11:49] <JonathanEllis> Can anyone tell me please, what is the function of the nosuid flag within fstab?
[11:49] <Baversjo> aksci: It asked me to import my documents but I declined.
[11:49] <[mbm]> mercutio22: n <enter> e <enter> <enter> <enter> ... until you get back to the Command prompt, then p <enter> to show what it's about to do
[11:49] <wayneward> im running rythmn box 0.11.5
[11:49] <usamahashimi> What router (company) is recommended for DSL sharing?
[11:50] <[mbm]> mercutio22: (it doesn't actually do anything until you tell it w)
 is ebox in ubuntu is also a good one?
[11:50] <Mechdave> woody86, from live distro open a terminal and sudo umount -a
[11:50] <ndlovu> rdw200169_, nope, it's going to an APC ups
[11:50] <mercutio22> mbm, sorry man, I am a little confused. I will do that now
[11:50] <grep65535> [mbm], mercutio22, good luck w/ that guys, sleep time for me >< hopefully it works out
[11:50] <Mechdave> then run fsck /dev/sda
[11:50] <aksci> Baversjo, post in your ~/menu.lst.  if your vista is /sda1,... your xp should be /sda5
[11:50] <mercutio22> grep65535: ok, thanks for the help
[11:50] <yao_ziyuan> my ubuntu in macosx look (without the docker): http://i37.tinypic.com/j94xg7.png
[11:50] <Mechdave> then run sudo fsck /dev/sda
[11:50] <mercutio22> grep65535: good night
[11:50] <wayneward> im runnng gos its just like mac osx!!
[11:50] <aksci> Baversjo, but thats apparantly not possible as neither vista nor xp allows installation on an extended partition
[11:51] <rdw200169_> ndlovu: well, that kills the easy questions...
[11:51] <king2676> has anyone tried ebox-ubuntu here?
[11:51] <rdw200169_> king2676: i messed with it a little bit
[11:51] <JonathanEllis> JonathanEllis: This is a test to see if the sound works when someone says my name. Please ignore
[11:51] <grep65535> king2676: I dont know much about ebox, but I'd start here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/eBox
[11:51] <[mbm]> mercutio22: see above for fdisk commands
[11:51] <Mechdave> mercutio22, that is ok, the disk will still partition ok
[11:51] <wayneward> ebox for the xbox?
[11:51] <rdw200169_> king2676: i would give it some more time to get into a more stable state, it's still missing a lot of features
[11:52] <Baversjo> aksci: http://pastebin.com/d133f0ae2
[11:52] <aksci> Baversjo, okay Partition 1 does not end on cylinder boundary... is the error! so you might have installed xp the way Tyrath has, on the same drive
 thanks
[11:52] <rdw200169_> ok, JonathanEllis
thanks
[11:52] <Baversjo> aksci: Oh no!
[11:53] <rdw200169_> king2676: that, and ebox has a bad habbit of taking total control...
[11:53] <mercutio22> mbm Its asking me where the " first cilinde" is. Can I just push enter, selecting the default option?
[11:53] <Baversjo> aksci: But I can see 2 windows partitions in the Ubuntu interface, the one on 80 gb and the one on 20
[11:53] <[mbm]> mercutio22: yep
[11:53] <Mechdave> mercutio22, just push enter
[11:53] <JonathanEllis> ﻿rdw200169_: Thanks. That works. Now I dont have to stare at the screen constantly in case I miss someone answering my questions :-D
[11:53] <[mbm]> mercutio22: when you get back to the prompt, do 'p <enter>' to show the partitions
[11:53] <JonathanEllis> Can anyone tell me what the nosuid flag is for when I mount filesystems in fstab?
 i just check it but i like the gui coz its better than webmin, since still not good thats not promising if im going to try it if its still having bugs
[11:54] <[mbm]> JonathanEllis: means that chmod +s doesn't work on the filesystem, which means applications can't run as root unless you're logged in as root
[11:54] <FloodBot3> !netsplit
[11:54] <|Chrizz|> Baboom! Netsplit ftw
[11:55] <|Chrizz|> Baboom! Netsplit ftw
[11:55] <mercutio22> mbm, I Defaulted the "last cylinder" as well, now I am back at the fdisk command options
[11:55] <Mechdave> JonathanEllis, it means you cannot run that file as sudo
[11:55] <Tyrath> yes! I just worked out how do make a new partition!
[11:56] <JonathanEllis> ﻿[mbm]: and Mechdave: Thanks. Is that a good thing? Is it recommended to set this flag on all partitions?
[11:56]  * Sorcererbob high 5's Tyrath
[11:56] <[mbm]> mercutio22: now: p <enter> (and pastebin the result)
[11:56] <Tyrath> thanks Sorcererbob
[11:56] <aksci> try putting another entry... http://pastebin.com/m357eb8fb
[11:56]  * Tyrath feels so intelligent all of a sudden
[11:56] <Mechdave> JonathanEllis, Depends on what you are doing with your system
[11:56] <[mbm]> JonathanEllis: it's a security thing, but some programs need root permissions or they won't work, so you can't do it on your main filesystem
[11:56] <Baversjo> aksci: Do you know a solution? :P
[11:56] <Tyrath> I mean I sort of cheated cause I used GParted instead of console, but still...
[11:57] <mercutio22> mbm ok, I don' t see the swap partition. and " e" wasn' t accepted as an option. http://www.pastebin.ca/1255148
[11:57] <JonathanEllis> Mechdave and mbm: I am adding separate partitions in fstab for /home and /home/jonathan/extraspace. Should I set this flag on those?
[11:58] <Mechdave> JonathanEllis, Personally I would not do it filesystem wide as it can screw a lot of things up really bad... I just stick with maybe making my home directory no suid if you are paranoid
[11:58] <chilli0_> LOL netsplit
[11:58] <ikonia> chilli0_ why is that funny ?
[11:58] <JonathanEllis> Mechdave: So what will it prevent me screwing up?
[11:58] <Baversjo> aksci: sda5 is the Windows XP
[11:58] <[mbm]> mercutio22: did you originally have a swap partition?
[11:58] <chilli0_> it looks funny on mi iPod touch
[11:58] <JonathanEllis> Mechdave: I am, after all, reasonably paranoid
[11:59] <aksci> Baversjo this http://paste.ubuntu.com/71328/ sorry
[11:59] <rdw200169_> JonathanEllis: since windows, we all have reason to be....
[11:59] <EF_Codd> I want to do some sort of transparent disk/ partition encryption like with FreeBSD and gbde and geli. What options do I have with the ubuntu repositories?
[11:59] <Mechdave> JonathanEllis, All the nosuid flag will do is stop anyone gaining sudo root privileges and executing files in your home directory
[11:59] <EF_Codd> It'll need swap encrption
[12:00] <Baversjo> aksci: Sorry?
[12:00] <Mechdave> JonathanEllis, If someone is logged in as root, well they can do what they want
[12:00] <EF_Codd> I said I'll be needing answers.
[12:00] <mercutio22> mbm yes... I think something is wrong. You see in the screenshot I sent you.. the last partition is fat32, I thought it would be my swap partition
[12:00] <Mechdave> JonathanEllis, for a desktop I would not worry about it
[12:00] <JonathanEllis> How do I get rid of the annoying ﻿"<some user> left the room (quit: Client Quit)." messages? Sometimes the window scrolls by a hundred lines and I lose sight of the discussion
[12:00] <JonathanEllis> Mechdave: Thanks
[12:00] <RealKillaz> hi I have a GM965/GL960 videocard... can you guys guide me howto setup so I can go to a resolution higher then 1024x768
[12:00] <king2676> thanks guys i'll be back later
[12:01] <[mbm]> mercutio22: kkeep in mind that fdisk is showing you the partitions in a different order
[12:01] <RealKillaz> it's an intel videocard
[12:01] <Mechdave> JonathanEllis, no worries
[12:01] <ditch64> JonathanEllis: i wish i knew
[12:01] <JonathanEllis> ﻿Can anyone tell me how to change the volume level for my swap partition?
[12:01] <mercutio22> mbm ok, i see now
[12:02] <ditch64> JonathanEllis: you mean the size?'
[12:02] <EF_Codd> Well, from all my searching it looks like you can't. Guess I'll have to stick with FreeBSD. I can't believe there isn't an equivalent solution.
[12:02] <ikonia> EF_Codd wait for a response
[12:02] <ikonia> EF_Codd: you've waited 2 minutes
[12:02] <mercutio22> mbm, still... my swap is missing
[12:02] <[mbm]> mercutio22: all the fdisk command I gave you did was mark the unallocated space linux (and it still hasn't changed it on disk yet)
[12:03] <ferronica> when i paused playing movie on VLC , again restarted there is no sound!
[12:03] <EF_Codd> ikonia yes. patience is a virtue.
[12:03] <ditch64> just an FYI, i wouldnt play around with partitions while your booted, my HD ate itself because of that, use Live CD if your going to play with partitions
[12:03] <schnoodles> has anyone run into the bug (kinit: no resume image, doing normal boot...) when trying to boot into 8.10 ?
[12:03] <JonathanEllis> ditch64: No. I mean the partition volume label. I like to set a descriptive volume label for each partition so that if everything screws up and my mount points get lost I can see in GParted what each partition is supposed to be for
[12:03] <Mechdave> ferronica, try #vlc
[12:03] <mercutio22> mbm ok, I know. Should we try to apply that or should I worry where my swap is?
[12:04] <Mechdave> JonathanEllis, prolly not a good idea to change the volume name
[12:04] <[mbm]> mercutio22: bring up another root terminal; apt-get install gpart; gpart /dev/sda
[12:04] <ferronica> Mechdave: not only vlc, no sound from from PC
[12:04] <ditch64> JonathanEllis: ya im with mechdave on that one
[12:04] <EF_Codd> Well, there is no linux equivalent.
[12:04] <JonathanEllis> Mechdave and ditch64: Why? I have successfully labelled all my other partitions so I know what they are
[12:04] <ferronica> Mechdave: Rhythmbox no sound
[12:05] <tta> any ubuntu-devs? usb-creator, only able to use *buntu-desktop*.iso ? no other distro allowed?
[12:05] <EF_Codd> that makes me sick
[12:05] <metrick> If i have a windows xp iso, no cd burner, and no longer have windows, how can i install the windows program? without cd burning of course, dont have a burner atm
[12:05] <mercutio22> mbm gpart has no installation candidate
[12:05]  * ditch64 is back
[12:05]  * ditch64 is back
[12:05] <RealKillaz> anyone can help me with the intel videocard setting itto higherresolution?
[12:05] <Sorcererbob> metrick: its going to be wayyyy to  much effort. Just go and borrow a disk from someone
[12:05] <Sorcererbob> too *
[12:06] <ditch64> JonathanEllis: idk, someone told me not to when i wanted to, sooo lol
[12:06] <tonio> ciao a tutti
[12:06] <mercutio22> mbm gpart has no installation candidate
[12:06] <mercutio22> opos
[12:06] <mercutio22> sorry
[12:06] <[mbm]> mercutio22: hmm .. are we just screwing around trying to see if the partition can be recovered or are you trying to get data off the linux partition?
[12:06] <sajuuk> hey guys, im trying to get Eve online to work on ubuntu...  how do update my drivers for direct3d so that it doesnt crash? eve uses direct 3d but apparently wine can translate that direct3d into opengl, how can i get it to work?
[12:06] <JonathanEllis> metrick: What country are you in? I could burn it and mail it you if you like
[12:06] <panfist> last night i started a file transfer that got 99% completed from one drive to a raid array on the local system. it was frozen at 99% complete for 8 hours. now im trying to unmount to the drive and it says it is busy
[12:06] <metrick> sorcererbob: if you know how, ill take the long way, no one i know has their windows disk anymore
[12:07] <metrick> jonathanellis: hmm?
[12:07] <Sorcererbob> metrick, you could set up a network boot server and do a pxe boot from your machine. Trust me when I say its easier to install a new CD ROM drive
[12:07] <Mechdave> JonathanEllis, all worry about is make sure that the partitions have the correct mount point as that in itself tells me what they are :)
[12:07] <EF_Codd> ikonia where's all my answers?
[12:07] <imot> hy
[12:07] <EF_Codd> who the hell is running this shambles?
[12:07] <JonathanEllis> ﻿metrick: If you want I can burn your windows iso to cd and mail it to you
[12:07] <EF_Codd> I want answers and I want them now!
[12:08] <mercutio22> mbm I would like to recover the partition with its data, but if something goes wrong I have a backup of my documents, I am not totally wasted. I just didn t wanna loose all the work tuning my ubuntu desktop
[12:08] <imot> ht
[12:08] <Tyrath> I really can't figure out how to put ubuntu on sda2
[12:08] <mercutio22> mbm so what do you say?
[12:08] <Mechdave> EF_Codd, we all are volunteers here, you can always google the question yourself
[12:08] <donald> Anyone know why Intrepid didn't have support for the Broadcom BCM4318 network card "out of the box"?
[12:08] <Tyrath> sda2 being a second partition I managed to create
[12:08] <histo> wow 80% usage of 4 cpus
[12:08] <JonathanEllis> ﻿EF_Codd: This is a chat room. Everyone here is a volunteer. If you want priority support I suggest you pay for it
[12:09] <rdw200169_> histo: what do you think of the Phenom?
[12:09] <EF_Codd> Mechdave I have. I found nothing. I thought perhaps one of the thousand users here had done similar through hacking together something.
[12:09] <hateball> donald╸ Proprietary firmware
[12:09] <EF_Codd> It makes me ill.
[12:09] <JonathanEllis> ﻿EF_Codd: And a little politeness goes a long way!
[12:09] <EF_Codd> why can't you just admit there is no similar solution?
[12:09] <[mbm]> mercutio22: fire up synaptic, settings->repositories and select universe .. either use synaptic or apt-get to install gpart
[12:09] <apadox> ok my problem .. i can't connect to wireless (no ecnrypt) and i cant connect to wired network  ( same wireless and wired router work on windows) and wired network works on other routers  this is lshw net and dhclient eth0 http://www.pastedump.com/paste/146
[12:09] <imot> ku
[12:10] <donald> You would at least think the basic install would have included ndiswrapper.  I had to go "wired" and download it first to get my network up.
[12:10] <imot> ?????????
[12:10] <EF_Codd> I've given my life to *nix, and this is how I get repaid?
[12:10] <JonathanEllis> ﻿EF_Codd: http://www.ubuntu.com/support/paid
[12:10] <EF_Codd> no wonder no one uses this debian lite anymore
[12:11] <Sorcererbob> apadox: what about wlan0?
[12:11] <mercutio22> mbm, got it, wilco.
[12:11] <savvas> tta: I've just added xubuntu alternate and it accepted it
[12:11] <apadox> Sorcererbob wireless is on eth1
[12:12] <rdw200169_> well, EF_Codd finally left
[12:12] <tta> savvas, yeah, I meant other than *buntu, like zenwalk or fedora or similar
[12:13] <rdw200169_> never mention the question, or introspective comment, hmm... i wonder how I could help, what a freeloader
[12:13] <mercutio22> mbm *** Fatal error: dev(/dev/sda): seek failure.
[12:13] <[mbm]> mercutio22: you need to run gpart as root ;)
[12:13] <mercutio22> mbm done that
[12:13] <Sorcererbob> ah true
[12:14] <|Chrizz|> What is the best music player in ubuntu?
[12:14] <[mbm]> mercutio22: can you pastebin it?
[12:14] <adam7> !best | |Chrizz|
[12:14] <savvas> tta: https://fedorahosted.org/liveusb-creator/ :) or maybe https://edge.launchpad.net/liveusb works for other distributions
[12:14] <mercutio22> mbm sure
[12:14] <Sorcererbob> |Chrizz|, come on. Thats fairly subjective. have a look at rythmbox - the default. I like it best :)
[12:14] <adam7> |Chrizz|: that said, people usually like amarok (kde) or the one that comes with ubuntu or exaile or somethign similar
[12:14] <Tyrath> I keep getting this error /boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly :(
[12:14] <Tyrath> - what does that mean?
[12:15] <mercutio22> mbm http://www.pastebin.ca/1255155
[12:15] <Tyrath> all I'm trying is move ubuntu to a new partition
[12:15] <[mbm]> Tyrath: grub stores part of the bootup on the disk .. that's saying it can't find that data on the disk
[12:15] <Mechdave> Tyrath, it means that stage1 is not in the right place or it is corrupted
[12:15] <tta> savvas, thanks for additional info, I were already aware of those, but were just wondering why default app in ubuntu is limited only to *buntu :(
[12:15] <Tyrath> Mechdave: how do I change that?
[12:16] <[mbm]> mercutio22: wrong paste .. gpart ?
[12:16] <Mechdave> Tyrath, do you have a bootable system?
[12:16] <Tyrath> Mechdave: I need to reinstall grub on a new partition if I want grub to control the system
[12:16] <Tyrath> Mechdave: I have no idea
[12:16] <Mechdave> Tyrath, Ok now is ubuntu still running?
[12:16] <jaycee> does any body know how to make the keyboard shortcuts of volume control work for both speaker nd earphones
[12:16] <Tyrath> Mechdave: I've got two partitions and two OS only on one partition
[12:16] <Tyrath> Mechdave: ubuntu is runnin atm
[12:17] <mercutio22> mbm http://www.pastebin.ca/1255155
[12:17] <jpablanche> how to login to NickServ ?
[12:17] <jpablanche> what is the command?
[12:17] <Mechdave> Tyrath, Ok now, you want windows to boot as well?
[12:17] <Tyrath> Mechdave: I want to put ubuntu on its own separate partition instead of being on the win partition
[12:17] <[mbm]> mercutio22: you're not logged in as root on that terminal
[12:17] <ikonia> jpablanche join #freenode and ask
[12:17] <Sorcererbob> mercutio22: try "sudo gpart /dev/sda"
[12:17] <Tyrath> jpablanche: / /nickserv IDENTIFY <password>
[12:18] <Tyrath> jpablanche: //nickserv IDENTIFY <password>
[12:18] <mercutio22> mbm, yes I am, in the second and third attempt
[12:18] <Tyrath> without the double /
[12:18] <Mechdave> Tyrath, separate partition or hard drive?
[12:18] <Tyrath> only one /
[12:18] <Tyrath> Mechdave: separate partition
[12:18] <Tyrath> Mechdave: I've got ubuntu on the win partition
[12:19] <RealKillaz> it seems like I'm the only one facing this problem :-(
[12:19] <Tyrath> Mechdave: as in sda1 is windows and ubuntu
[12:19] <mercutio22> mbm, can you see?
[12:19] <[mbm]> mercutio22: yeah.. odd
[12:19] <Tyrath> Mechdave: whilst sda2 is empty
[12:19] <Mechdave> Tyrath, I am a little confused, I have never seen ubuntu installed on a win partition...
[12:19] <rdw200169_> Mechdave: it's part of wubi
[12:19] <rdw200169_> !wubi
[12:19] <savvas> tta: probably because each distribution has its own differences, not sure though.. good point, you could file a bug report about it: https://bugs.launchpad.net/usb-creator/+filebug
[12:20] <Mechdave> rdw200169_, Aah thanks
[12:20] <tta> savvas, already on it ;)
[12:20] <Tyrath> Mechdave: if I mount sda1 it shows the windows files
[12:20] <Tyrath> Mechdave: if I mound sda2 it has one file in it called lost+found
[12:21] <Mechdave> Tyrath, Ok best way I can think of is back up your /home directory and do a full native reinstall on sda2
[12:21] <Tyrath> Mechdave: given sda1 takes up a lot of space I can only assume it has ubuntu on it aswell
[12:21] <[mbm]> mercutio22: sudo gpart -C 38913,255,63 /dev/sda
[12:21] <JonathanEllis> I have several partitions set up in fstab. One of them also appears as a media icon on the desktop, which is annoying. Any ideas please?
[12:21] <Tyrath> Mechdave: is there noway I can just install grub on sda2?
[12:21] <Mechdave> Tyrath, then uninstall wubi on /dev/sda1
[12:21] <Tyrath> !wubi
[12:21] <savvas> tta: notify me when you're done, I'd like to confirm it :)
[12:22] <Mechdave> Tyrath, you can but it won't do what you want :)
[12:22] <tta> savvas, ok.
[12:22] <Tyrath> Mechdave: what if I then set sda2 to boot?
[12:22] <mercutio22> mbm sme thing : *** Fatal error: dev(/dev/sda): seek failure.
[12:22] <Mechdave> Tyrath, but from what I understand you only have lost+found on sda2
[12:22] <Tyrath> Mechdave: the thing is I've set up ubuntu the way I like it. and reinstalling and fixing up everything will take ages. I had a bunch of issues when I first installed that I no longer have anymore :/
[12:22] <mercutio22> mbm maybe the entire partition was deleted
[12:23] <Tyrath> Mechdave: also I've written a bunch of files, installed a bunch of progs, removed a bunch of progs
[12:23] <[mbm]> mercutio22: program scans the disk itself looking for the partition
[12:23] <Dexter> hello to all
[12:23] <Tyrath> Mechdave: surely there's got to be someway I can just shift ubuntu to a partition?
[12:24] <Tyrath> Mechdave: or, install grub on the other partition and make that the default partition
[12:24] <ikonia> Tyrath not really
[12:24] <Mechdave> Tyrath, try the wubi faqs, I am not aware of any way
[12:24] <ikonia> Tyrath grub goes on the mbr not a partition
[12:24] <sajuuk> hey guys where can i download drivers for a 852GM/855GM 20061017 x86/MMX/SSE2 graphics card?
[12:24] <mercutio22> mbm I read in the manual it should be doing that. Its working though. Should we try the fdisk thing?
[12:24] <Dexter> i am a russian man
[12:24] <adam7> !ru | Dexter
[12:24] <punktalk> heyy i love irc big fan, people here are a huge help. that being said i have a pretty big problemmm =///
[12:24] <ikonia> sajuuk intel card ?
[12:24] <sajuuk> for ubuntu of course
[12:24] <sajuuk> yep
[12:24] <sajuuk> its for eve online
[12:24] <punktalk> can anyone help?
[12:24] <Tyrath> ikonia: so then what's the ubuntu boot if it's not grub?
[12:24] <James_UK> hello, can anyone help me boot winXP from grub please. Grub is installed on The linux partition which is on IDE2 Slave, XP is installed on SATA. Grub can see XP is there but it will not boot up
[12:24] <adam7> !enter | sajuuk
[12:25] <ikonia> Tyrath it is grub
[12:25] <Dexter> do you all have rassian people&
[12:25] <[mbm]> mercutio22: since gparted doesn't want to tell us the proper size of the partition you might aswell go back to fdisk and write the modfied partition to disk, giving the entire unallocated space to linux .. that'll let you mount it and backup any data
[12:25] <xukun> does anybody know a good howto get working pc's s-video to crt tv? like things to put in xorg and so on.
[12:25] <Dexter> on this flat&
[12:25] <Tyrath> ikonia: so then why does windows go on a partition and not ubuntu?
[12:25] <boubbin> can irun application from terminal without sounds? the application (pingus) doesnt have disable sounds option and it really has horrible sound effects :)
[12:25] <adam7> !ru > Dexter
[12:25] <mercutio22> mbm ok, good call
[12:25] <ikonia> Tyrath because it's a different os
[12:25] <Sorcererbob> James_UK: can we see a pastebin copy of /boot/grub/menu.lst ?
[12:25] <punktalk> anybody here who can help with driver problem?
[12:26] <mercutio22> mbm how do I apply the changes?
[12:26] <ikonia> punktalk whats up
[12:26] <[mbm]> mercutio22: w
[12:26] <James_UK> sure Sorcererbob give me a min pls :)
[12:26] <Tyrath> ikonia: so are you saying you can't install ubuntu onto a seperate partition?
[12:26] <adam7> ikonia: Tyrath: is it possible to just dd the wubi file onto a parition?
[12:26] <Tyrath> ikonia: cause I don't get how ubuntu can take control of a system if it's not
[12:26] <ikonia> Tyrath I'm saying you can't move wubi
[12:26] <sajuuk> oh my OS is hardy heron, not intrepid
[12:26] <mercutio22> mbm
[12:26] <Tyrath> !wubi
[12:26] <mercutio22> mbm I have to recover grub as well right?
[12:27] <ikonia> adam7 thats an interesting point, I'd guess no, unless you put a good ammount of work in to make sure your disk sizes match
[12:27] <Mechdave> Tyrath, you can use LVPM to move wubi to a partition
[12:27] <punktalk> ikonia: nvidia graphics card. dl driver thru hardware drivers, have to fix x-server to get back here. it says its in use, but not enabled.
[12:27] <ikonia> adam7: don't forget wubi just puts it on a "file" on the nfs disk
[12:27] <punktalk> ikonia: i need to find out how to load it without my visual failing.
[12:27] <Tyrath> Mechdave: does ubuntu control your boot?
[12:27] <ikonia> punktalk what happens when you click enable
[12:27] <adam7> ikonia: yeah, never used wubi, it was just a suggestion :) getting the sizes to match would be a pain though
[12:27] <ikonia> punktalk: hav you rebooted since downloading
[12:27] <Mechdave> Tyrath, http://lubi.sourceforge.net/lvpm.html
[12:27] <punktalk> asks me to restart
[12:27] <adam7> Tyrath: if you have some sort of external hard drive, you can back up the wubi install and then restore it to a real partition
[12:27] <ikonia> adam7 I agree, potentially yes, but a real big effort
[12:27] <Mechdave> Tyrath, it can
[12:27] <punktalk> ikonia: yes. it asks me to restart and i get the same problem.
[12:27] <ikonia> punktalk restart ?
[12:27] <schnoodles> is it possible to change your aptitude sources from within bash as where im trying to update from alot of the urls are broken
[12:27] <JonathanEllis> Is it good practise to have a dedicated boot partition? Currently I have winxp on a primary partition which is also the boot partition. Of course, when I eventually get round to deleting windows then I will need to rebuild GRUB so wondered if I should be proactive and make a small partition just for that. By the way, what is the point of primary partitions instead of making one extended partition and then making all partitions logical ones?
[12:27] <[mbm]> mercutio22: just mount the partition, copy data off it and then reinstall linux properly .. not worth trying to recover any more with the partition in that state
[12:28] <punktalk> ive restarted when it asks me to several times, yes why?
[12:28] <Tyrath> Mechdave: so then you must have ubuntu running its own partition, no?
[12:28] <mercutio22> mbm... agreed
[12:28] <adam7> JonathanEllis: windows can't install on extended. if you plan on having more than one linux distro a boot parition won't hurt
[12:28] <sybux> Hi all, I've got some problem with a sshfs mount.
[12:28] <Mechdave> JonathanEllis, I always have a dedicated /boot as if anything goes wrong ( as it has done) it is easier to access it from a grub boot floppy
[12:28] <sybux> I can edit files throw vi but not with gedit anyone know why ?
[12:29] <adam7> sybux: do you need root to access it?
[12:29] <Tyrath> sybux: try sudo gedit
[12:29] <punktalk> ikonia: any ideas? thanks for the help man.
[12:29] <Mechdave> Tyrath, If you set up grub to boot both Ubuntu and XP then Ubuntu must live on its own partition
[12:29] <savvas> punktalk: which nvidia graphics card do you have? can you post the output of this command (Applications > Accessories > Terminal): lspci | grep -i nv
[12:29] <ikonia> punktalk what card do you have ? I missed that
[12:29] <sybux> I've also tried but it also bad. I can only open the file in read-only mode
[12:29] <JonathanEllis> Mechdave and adam7: Thanks. So windows can only run from a primary partition - that sucks! But then so do most things MS - I should be used to it. Am I right in thinking you cant move a primary partition either?
[12:30] <punktalk> nvidia GeForce 8600 GTS.
[12:30] <punktalk> savvas: ill do that, hang on.
[12:30] <sybux> Tyrath: actually I open my sshfs connection with root
[12:30] <Tyrath> Mechdave: see the thing is if I want to change boot settings I have to use boot.ini on windows :/
[12:30] <punktalk> savvas: what exactly should i look for with that command line? it gives a lot.
[12:31] <adam7> JonathanEllis: I can't think of a reason you couldn't. What I would recommend (since you can only have three primary partitions) is one primary boot partition, one primary partition for whatever your current OS is (that way, if you need Windows in the future you can easily reinstall) and one extended partition for everything else
[12:31] <mercutio22> mbm it looks like it was windows
[12:31] <ditch64> hey could there be anything in the bios of my computer thats not letting me boot from grub? i get error 21 EVERY time on this stupid desktop nomatter what everybody tells me to do
[12:31] <mercutio22> oh man
[12:31] <Mechdave> Tyrath, that is right while you are running wubi, but if you use LVPM to put Ubuntu on sda2 then you use grub to change settings
[12:31] <savvas> punktalk: a line for "VGA"
[12:31] <adam7> sybux: if you add a -o allow_others option to the sshfs command anyone can access it
[12:31] <punktalk> 03:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation GeForce 8600 GTS (rev a1)
[12:31] <Tyrath> Mechdave: how do I do that?
[12:31] <sybux> adam7: it says :  option allow_other only allowed if 'user_allow_other' is set in /etc/fuse.conf
[12:32] <Mechdave> JonathanEllis, I have never worried about it... although I suppose you could use gparted
[12:32] <yedday> Can anyone tell mme the open source linux alternative to PDF XCHANGE VIEWER?
[12:32] <[mbm]> mercutio22: ohwell, should be able to get data off it .. just not worth the effort to figure out the exact partition size
[12:32] <adam7> Tyrath: do you have an external hard disk, usb flash drive, or something? you can just back up the wubi install, then restore it on a proper partition
[12:32] <savvas> punktalk: post the output of this command now: apt-cache policy nvidia-glx-177 | grep Installed
[12:32] <tta> savvas, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/usb-creator/+bug/297634
[12:32] <Mechdave> Ok visit this site for instructions on LVPM --> http://lubi.sourceforge.net/lvpm.html
[12:32] <Tyrath> adam7: how much space will I need?
[12:32] <savvas> thanks tta
[12:33] <Mechdave> Tyrath, Ok visit this site for instructions on LVPM --> http://lubi.sourceforge.net/lvpm.html
[12:33] <adam7> Tyrath: depends on the size of your install
[12:33] <punktalk> savvas: W: Unable to locate package nvidia-glx-177
[12:33] <Tyrath> adam7: for ibex?
[12:33] <adam7> Tyrath: is it a fresh install? have you installed any additional packages?
[12:33] <Tyrath> adam7: i've installed and deleted packages, written files, etc.
[12:33] <jaycee> Can anyone tell me how to make the keyboard shortcuts of volume control work for both speaker nd earphones?
[12:34] <mercutio22> mbm... i can' t mount the partition
[12:34] <histo> rdw200169_: I just bought a phenom for a friend i'm building a system for. But i'm not running one with 4 cpus. I'm running a multi xeon system.
[12:34] <savvas> punktalk: this now: lsb_release -drc | xargs
[12:34] <[mbm]> jaycee: system->prefs->sound and set the mixer
[12:34] <JonathanEllis> adam7: At the moment, I have a primary partition with winxp on it. Thats my boot partition. Then I have an extended partition with Hardy on a logical partition and another logical partition for swap. Then i have a separate hard disk with a large extended partition with a logical partition mounted as /home and another logical partition for swap. I was told there are speed advantages to spreading swap across two separate physical devices
[12:34] <adam7> ikonia: do you know if the wubi file is a bit-for-bit copy of the root partition
[12:35] <[mbm]> mercutio22: what error message?
[12:35] <rdw200169_> histo: ah, i assumed, my bad
[12:35] <ne2k__> I'm trying to transcode to MPEG PS with mpeg2 video and mpeg2 audio using vlc, but I get an "ffmpeg encoder error: cannot open encoder" -- I have installed ffmpeg. what is missing?
[12:35] <punktalk> savvas: Description: Ubuntu 8.04.1 Release: 8.04 Codename: hardy
[12:35] <ikonia> adam7 not %100, but I don't believe it is
[12:35] <ikonia> adam7: my opion - no
[12:35] <rdw200169_> histo: i was pretty stoked when i did the same thing for a friends' computer...
[12:35] <Mechdave> JonathanEllis, How much ram do you have?
[12:35] <ikonia> opinion
[12:35] <JonathanEllis> 1GB
[12:35] <adam7> ikonia: ok, just thinking that one could stick the livecd, mount it loopback, copy the files onto a real partition, and reboot
[12:35] <mercutio22> mbm http://www.pastebin.ca/1255178
[12:36] <rdw200169_> histo: phenom can do number crunching heavy processing tasks like a champ, like encoding mp3's
[12:36] <savvas> punktalk: this one: apt-cache policy nvidia-glx-new | grep Installed
[12:36] <rdw200169_> histo: or heavy network processing...
[12:36] <[mbm]> mercutio22: file -s /dev/sda6
[12:36] <punktalk> savvas:   Installed: 169.12+2.6.24.14-21.51
[12:37] <divine_> hi. ubuntu 8.10 does not allow dvd drive to be used, ubuntu has set the permissions so that no normal user has access, how can i fix this?
[12:37] <mercutio22> mbm /dev/sda6: data
[12:37] <divine_> this is in my /etc/fstab: /dev/scd0       /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec,utf8 0       0
[12:37] <savvas> punktalk: and this: glxinfo | grep direct
[12:37] <Mechdave> JonathanEllis, I have swap on the same drive as the system with little or no slowdown, yo could put swap on a separate hard drive for added speed if you want
[12:37] <adam7> JonathanEllis: if you use a lot of swap, having two hdds are a major advantage. If you plan to wipe your Windows install, what I would do is wipe it, then use gparted to resize that parition so that it's about 40MB smaller, and then make a 40MB boot partition at the beginning of the disk (assuming 40MB is enough for /boot)
[12:37] <[mbm]> mercutio22: means our guess about where to put the partition was wrong
[12:37] <adam7> JonathanEllis: if you never use swap, then there is no advantage to having it on two disks (ie, you have 6 GB of ram)
[12:38] <ditch64> !lilo
[12:38] <rdw200169_> Mechdave: JonathanEllis: it is *always* best to have enough ram, that you never need swap...
[12:38] <mercutio22> mbm, I see...
[12:38] <punktalk> savvas: alright, what part of that do u want? theres a lot.
[12:38] <ditch64> well grub doesnt work grr
[12:38] <savvas> punktalk: paste it at www.pastebin.com :)
[12:38] <ActionParsnip> divine_: mines identical
[12:38] <Mechdave> rdw200169_, that is correct, although when compiling a kernel I always use a little swap
[12:38] <Tyrath> Mechdave: An error has been encountered in accessing this page
[12:39] <ActionParsnip> divine_: when you say access, do you mean read or write or both
[12:39] <vpereira> there is any usb wlan token that is plug and play with ubuntu?
[12:39] <Mechdave> Tyrath, try again, it may just be a timeout
[12:39] <divine_> ActionParsnip, write access, currently the permissions are: drwxr-xr-x 3  501 dialout  592 2008-08-29 09:54 cdrom0  -- and i cant use chmod on that dir, it should be in /etc/fstab
[12:39] <JonathanEllis> ﻿rdw200169_, adam7, Mechdave: I only have 1GB of RAM and no more space to install anymore. Since I have two hard disks lying around and needed them both anyway for storage space it seemed sensible to have two swap partitions for load balancing. If I had a newer machine I would just buy more RAM but that would involve spending more pennies than I can spare right now
[12:39] <Tyrath> Mechdave: same deal
[12:39] <ActionParsnip> !wifi | vpereira
[12:39] <boubbin> can irun application from terminal without sounds? the application (pingus) doesnt have disable sounds option and it really has horrible sound effects :)
[12:40] <Tyrath> !lvpm
[12:40] <Tyrath> !LVPM
[12:40] <punktalk> savvas: sorry, the second one
[12:40] <adam7> JonathanEllis: yeah, 1GB is enough for nearly everything.
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> divine_: you cant write to a cd like that, you need an app
[12:40] <|Chrizz|>  "firefox ix already running, but is not responding"
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> !burner | divine_
[12:40] <|Chrizz|> How did i kill a process again?
[12:40] <Tyrath> !tv
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> |Chrizz|: ps -ef | grep fire
[12:40] <Mechdave> Tyrath, odd for sourceforge...
[12:40] <[mbm]> mercutio22: either play around with gpart or start the reinstall
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> |Chrizz|: then kill its PID
[12:41] <Tyrath> Mechdave: it doesn't use javascript or anything does it?
[12:41] <rdw200169_> JonathanEllis: wow, you're in the dark ages!
[12:41] <mercutio22> mbm... ok man, thanks for having all the trouble.. I will try to get gpart to work somehow
[12:41] <Mechdave> Tyrath, not that I know of...
[12:41] <divine_> ActionParsnip, actually, i just wanna run Installer.exe with wine, but i think it fails over permissions, "dialout" is the group owner and non-existing user 501 is the owner of the cdrom; thats doesnt seem right
[12:41] <savvas> punktalk: ok we'll have to re-create xorg.conf, execute this command and tell me when done: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[12:42] <vpereira> i just wanna know if somebody tried once a usb wlan token that works out of the box with ubuntu
[12:42] <JonathanEllis> ﻿rdw200169_: Yes its a six year old PC but thats the great thing about linux - it flies along compared to windows
[12:42] <punktalk> =) thanks man
[12:42] <rdw200169_> JonathanEllis: touche
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> divine_: with drwxr-xr-x everybody can execute
[12:42] <|Chrizz|> thx ActionParsnip
[12:42] <punktalk> savvas: it asks for my password? but i cant type......
[12:43] <Tyrath> Mechdave: ok it's working now. I left out the http:// and for some weird reason it didn't work
[12:43] <savvas> punktalk: type it in (it won't show dots or stars or anything) and press enter
[12:43] <[mbm]> vpereira: don't hold your breath; most cheap wifi stuff uses broadcom chipsets
[12:43] <Mechdave> JonathanEllis, you can get away with no swap if you want with 1Gb of ram
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> divine_: add yourself to the group "dialou"
[12:43] <punktalk> oh wow alright (im super newb btw) thanks man
[12:43] <Mechdave> Tyrath, strange :/
[12:43] <a_>  hi, i got ubuntu for my curiosity but if i cant figure out how to work a .run that isnt available on the package manager i wont have a graphics card and have to wipe it for windows again. any tips?
[12:44] <savvas> punktalk: we all passed that (weird) test ;)
[12:44] <a_> i didnt
[12:44] <JonathanEllis> Mechdave: Well the swap partitions are not taking up too much of my 80GB of hard disk space so I will leave them there. I guess ubuntu wont use them unless it needs to
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> a_: you need to chmod a+x <filename>.run
[12:44] <punktalk> savvas: this came up, also what happened when i 'fix x-server':    xserver-xorg postinst warning: overwriting possibly-customised configuration
[12:44] <punktalk>    file; backup in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.20081113044344
[12:44] <punktalk> (oops sorry. hahahah thanks savvas)
[12:44] <Mechdave> JonathanEllis, that is true
[12:44] <savvas> punktalk: that's ok, anything else?
[12:44] <[mbm]> a_: sh *.run
[12:44] <lovey> hi
[12:44] <rdw200169_> JonathanEllis: you can see if it uses it in the System Monitor applet in gnome
[12:44] <JonathanEllis> Adam7: Unfortunately I am not willing to delete windows yet as I have one application that I need (to transfer data to my mobile phone)
[12:44] <a_> mbm: means nothing to me
[12:45] <punktalk> savvas: uhh nope just took me back to the regular command line.
[12:45] <ActionParsnip> a_: run it in terminal
[12:45] <ActionParsnip> !terminal | a_
[12:45] <savvas> punktalk: ok great, do this now: sudo apt-get install --reinstall nvigia-glx-new
[12:45] <a_> with filepath aor anything?
[12:45] <ActionParsnip> a_: you need to be in the same folder as the file, or you can specify the file with absoluteness
[12:45] <jrib> a_: what .run?  What is it for?
[12:46] <punktalk> savvas: E: Couldn't find package nvigia-glx-new
[12:46] <|Chrizz|> Why cant 2 diffrent programs send sounds over my soundcard?
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> jrib: sounds like an nvidia driver to me
[12:46] <savvas> punktalk: my bad, try this: sudo apt-get install --reinstall nvidia-glx-new nvidia-settings
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> |Chrizz|: are you using alsa?
[12:46] <[mbm]> both ati and nvidia use the self extracting run files
[12:46] <punktalk> ahh thank you savvas
[12:46] <a_> thats what i want nividia drivers for 7800 gs and its downloadable from nvidia but its a run file
[12:47] <JonathanEllis> Adam7: I dont know if WINE will work talking to a mobile phone on a USB cable. Suppose I could try it
[12:47] <|Chrizz|> ActionParsnip Yes
[12:47] <jrib> a_: Use System -> Administration -> Hardware Drivers
[12:47] <Mechdave> a_, ok you need to navigate to the same directory as the .run file through a terminal
[12:47] <rayb0t> hey does anybody use wine + steam here? i'm trying to install steam and it does not seem to install completely. trying to run it gives me various missing .dll problems..
[12:47] <jrib> a_: a .run is not optimal
[12:47] <savvas> punktalk: tell me when it's done
[12:47] <punktalk> just finished
[12:47] <Mechdave> a_, then type sh name_of_file.run
[12:47] <punktalk> XD dude... thank you so much.
[12:47] <a_> jrib: whatever works
[12:47] <a_> will do dave
[12:47] <jrib> rayb0t: check appdb.winehq.org
[12:48] <savvas> punktalk: n/p, just hold a second :)
[12:48] <punktalk> =) aight
[12:48] <mercutio22> mbm, have you heard of testdisk?
[12:48] <divine_> ActionParsnip: think i know the problem, this is the permission on the files on the cdrom: drwx------ 2 501 dialout     492 2008-08-29 09:54 DirectX
[12:49] <a_> terminal said "can't open file"
[12:49] <divine_> ActionParsnip, so it denies everyone access because user 501 does not exist. where does ubuntu get this info from? where?
[12:49] <savvas> punktalk: ok, execute this: sudo nvidia-xconfig
[12:49] <ActionParsnip> divine_: then you're stuck as its a ROM (read only memory)
[12:49] <ircdef> /q
[12:49] <iss> cn?
[12:49] <ActionParsnip> divine_: depends wherre it was burned
[12:49] <iss> ubuntu-cn?
[12:49] <iss> how to join ubuntu cn
[12:49] <IdleOne> !cn
[12:49] <a_> should i put the full path in?
[12:49] <Mechdave> a_, have yo followed the instructions from nvidia?
[12:50] <iss> "/join ##ubuntu-cn"?
[12:50] <divine_> ActionParsnip, the permissions are NOT on CD/DVD! Ubuntu does that, not the dvd
[12:50] <a_> they give none
[12:50] <[mbm]> mercutio22: haven't tried it .. did it work?
[12:50] <Mechdave> a_, yes
[12:50] <savvas> punktalk: paste the output to www.pastebin.com
[12:50] <IdleOne> iss: /join #ubuntu-cn
[12:50] <punktalk> savvas: kk
[12:50] <a_> "not supported" xp
[12:50] <iss> oh..
[12:50] <iss> thx
[12:50] <punktalk> there
[12:50] <a_> what about xconfig... will it run the correct drivers of the net?
[12:50] <Mechdave> a_, you have got the linux install?
[12:50] <a_> i have ubuntu
[12:50] <vpereira> would be cool if ubuntu could support wireless usb sticks..
[12:51] <Tyrath> Mechdave: is lvpm supposed to take a while to download?
[12:51] <vpereira> i'm checking the internet a lot of peole have the same problems
[12:51] <inSanity_> hi ppl, I'm new to freenx
[12:51] <Mechdave> a_, you have got the ubuntu install?
[12:51] <jrib> vpereira: would be cool if hardware manufacturers...
[12:51] <a_> its an older one but its updated
[12:51] <rdw200169_> jrib: agree.
[12:51] <Mechdave> Tyrath, dunno, never tried to do anything with it
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> divine_: yep, ubuntu will do that if you selected biurn for Linux only afaik
[12:51] <inSanity_> Can anyone help me with freenx? I can setup a connection but then the window disappears
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> divine_: i'd make the group then add your user to it
[12:51] <savvas> punktalk: ok now save your work, log out, wait until it shows the login screen, press CTRL+ALT+Backspace and login, then come back to fix the resolution
[12:52] <divine_> ActionParsnip, well this is an official dvd for World of Warcraft. i should convince ubuntu to mount it as my normal user with proper permissions, probably in /etc/fstab as parsed option
[12:52] <a_> is there an app whee i can browse and select a .run to run?
[12:52] <lianimator> where do I copy a ttf font file to install?
[12:52] <Pici> !fonts | lianimator this should help
[12:52] <punktalk> savvas: dude, youre a god. thank you so much.
[12:52] <jrib> a_: why aren't you just using the intended method for installing nvidia drivers I told you about?  It's a gui
[12:52] <|Chrizz|> Why cant 2 diffrent programs send sounds over my soundcard? (Using ALSA)
[12:52] <mercutio22> mbm its gonna take a while to finnish I have to go to work, I will finish later. If you are here, I will tell you how it went
[12:52] <divine_> ActionParsnip, only user gets permissions, not even the group (zero permisions on the files). ill search a bit tho. seems this is a common problem for ubuntu.
[12:53] <punktalk> savvas: lol save my work
[12:53] <inSanity_> |Chrizz| that's because they both use ALSA and that's one of the features it has
[12:53] <mercutio22> mbm thanks a lot for your effort. I appreciate it. be back later
[12:53] <Ongavezirr> Ongavezir the Holyness come back again
[12:53] <ActionParsnip> divine_: you could copy to your HDD then chown / chmod
[12:53] <ActionParsnip> divine_: then rm when its installed
[12:53] <savvas> lianimator: in ~/.fonts/ folder and then execute: fc-cache -f ~/.fonts/
[12:53] <inSanity_> Anyone familiair with freeNX ?
[12:54] <ActionParsnip> !freenx
[12:54] <inSanity_> ActionParsnip: I followed the instruction
[12:54] <Mu5> Anyone play world of warcraft, can not install WotLK ... any help?
[12:54] <ActionParsnip> inSanity_: i dont use it, i use ssh
[12:55] <inSanity_> but it gets stuck when itś  setting up a connection to 127.0.1.1:5000
[12:55] <Ongavezirr> Where is the muttafucka holy shit fat linuks-penguin now?
[12:55] <a_> hey i bet someone could write a tutorial how to use .run files
[12:55] <ActionParsnip> a_: theres tonnes
[12:55] <jrib> a_: did you see what I told you?
[12:55] <iss_> why my keyboard cant use backspace and direction key .
[12:55] <divine_> ActionParsnip, yeah doing that now. just hoped it worked like it should ;(
[12:55] <Mechdave> a_, what is the url of the file you have got?
[12:55] <bazhang> a_, for that there is no need
[12:55] <a_> jrib: it said "cant open file"
[12:55] <Mechdave> Pici, thanks
[12:55] <a_> its the nvidia drivers for graphics
[12:55] <inSanity_> ActionParsnip: yeah I use that on my servers too, but this is desktopping ;)
[12:55] <a_> i will find it
[12:56] <ActionParsnip> a_: whats the name of the file?
[12:56] <jrib> a_: no it didn't.  You aren't using System -> Administration -> Hardware Drivers
[12:56] <iss_> and when i use keypad ubuntu will logout
[12:56] <ActionParsnip> inSanity_: then ive no idea
[12:57] <ne2k__> inSanity_: polish keymap?
[12:57] <a_> i will look at hardware drivers so but i still need to use .run files after that
[12:57] <jrib> a_: no.  You don't need the .run at all.  And you probably will never need it.  Use repositories to install software by using System -> Administration -> Synaptic
[12:58] <davidw> so, I'm at my wits' end....
[12:58] <a_> i have only system>admin>restricted drivers and it says i dont use any
[12:58] <Mechdave> a_, I am with jrib
[12:58] <a_> i WILL need .run files
[12:58] <jrib> a_: what version of ubuntu?
[12:58] <davidw> do you guys have any ideas for workarounds for the messed up wireless in Intrepid?
[12:58] <bazhang> a_what card
[12:58] <savvas> a_: which graphics card?
[12:58] <C0p3rn1c> how do you fix the overlay problem with tvtime?
[12:58] <a_> i have some for games such as sauerbraten they are not in the package manager
[12:58] <a_> nvidia 7800 gs
[12:58] <jrib> !info sauerbraten | a_
[12:59] <asociacija> hello..please tell me how to play m2ts format? if i try to play it with VLC only sound is..
[12:59] <paul68> rdw200169_: you still awake my friend?
[12:59] <lianimator> savvas: I can't find a ~/fonts/ folder. I found /usr/share/fonts/ though.
[12:59] <a_> ubottu: size more like 360mb
[13:00] <a_> xD
[13:00] <savvas> lianimator: I said .fonts, dot fonts :)
[13:00] <jrib> a_: it depends on other packages
[13:00] <a_> what does?
[13:00] <jrib> a_: sauerbraten
[13:00] <lianimator> savvas: there is only ~/.fontsconfig/
[13:00] <a_> yes it does but it installs off a .run (and so does lots of stuff)
[13:00] <lianimator> savvas: would it be the same if I created a ~/.fonts/ folder?
[13:00] <savvas> lianimator: mkdir -p ~/.fonts/
[13:00] <savvas> lianimator: yep :)
[13:01] <a_> (such as my nvidia drivers)
[13:01] <jrib> a_: you can do whatever you want, but you're just making your life harder and compromising the security of your system by installing things through run files
[13:01] <metrick> I just got a pioneer dvr-103va DVD/RW but whenever i try putting it into my comp it tells m its an unknown device, all i have is ubuntu, no windows. Is there a way i can put this driver on and install it on ubuntu?
[13:01] <metrick> sorry for the confusing question
[13:01] <savvas> a_: execute this (Applications > Accessories > Terminal): sudo apt-get install envyng-core; sudo envy-ng
[13:01] <savvas> a_: follow the instructions
[13:02] <lianimator> savvas: thanks. that worked.
[13:02] <savvas> lianimator: note that ~/.fonts makes it accessible only for your user account :)
[13:02] <a_> jrib: if it says .run what can i do? its not on the package manager
[13:02] <lianimator> savvas: yup, figured. I'm the only user ;)
[13:02] <a_> here is the address of the drivers someone was looking for : http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/177.80/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-177.80-pkg1.run
[13:03] <fogobogo> o rly?
[13:03] <savvas> a_: use envyng: sudo envyng -t
[13:03] <jrib> a_: sauerbraten and nvidia drivers are both in the package manager.  You never answered my question about your version of ubuntu
[13:03] <serengeti> hi, is it possible to update & add packages to a system installed using usb-creator?
[13:03] <bazhang> a_ that is not needed
[13:03] <inSanity_> ne2k__: no sorry, just plain us international
[13:03] <a_> jrib: sauerbraten wasnt last night and nvidia has no clue which one is the driver....
[13:04] <jrib> a_: and again you fail to answer my question....
[13:04] <a_> jrib: i also need them for my mother board how do i figure out what to install?
[13:04] <EF_Codd> Is $69.99 a good deal for a fully loaded Gutsy Gibbon Ubuntu? It's second hand
[13:04] <a_> what questioon?
[13:04] <EF_Codd> On 2 CDs
[13:04] <jrib> a_: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[13:04] <ditch64> hey im in supergrub on my desktop, is there anyway i can freakin skip grub so i can install LILO?
[13:04] <a_> oh version? its almost 2 years old but updated online
[13:04] <jrib> EF_Codd: you are just by CDs?
[13:04] <jrib> !version | a_
[13:05] <savvas> a_: paste at www.pastebin.com the output of this command: lsb_release -a; sudo lshw
[13:05] <JonathanEllis> Any opinions on what is a good size for a winxp partition that I wont use much. It will only have a small number of applications and no documents, pictures, sounds or anything like that?
[13:05] <jrib> EF_Codd: you are just buying CDs?
[13:05] <EF_Codd> jrib well, the guy is going to install it for me, so I don't actually get the CDs. But he said it's 2 CDs worth of stuff
[13:05] <a_> what is a shell and savvas... wehere do i enter that command?
[13:05] <EF_Codd> He said I could make a full image or something later with dd
[13:05] <a_> pure noob here
[13:05] <JonathanEllis> I dont want to give it too much space
[13:05] <jrib> EF_Codd: all the software is free in ubuntu
[13:05] <EF_Codd> jrib not for fully loaded, he said
[13:06] <EF_Codd> jrib said it had grub and everything
[13:06] <jrib> EF_Codd: you should ask for details.  grub is free.
[13:06] <savvas> a_: I gave you a command earlier, which you haven't read, menu Applications > Accessories > Terminal
[13:06] <JonathanEllis> Or more to the point. What is a good amount of free space on a winxp partition?
[13:06] <a_> this ubuntu is feisty rib 7.04
[13:06] <punktalk> savvas: u still here?
[13:06] <EF_Codd> jrib hmm, I already put down a $30 deposit
[13:06] <savvas> a_: ah, then never mind :)
[13:06] <a_> say again what to type but exactly what to type
[13:06] <savvas> a_: feisty is outdated, upgrade to at least gutsy or hardy
[13:06] <savvas> punktalk: yep
[13:06] <jrib> a_: feisty is EOL and no longer supported.  You need to upgrade
[13:07] <jrib> !upgrade > a_
[13:07] <a_> i upgraded on the auto is it not anyn use?
[13:07] <savvas> punktalk: had problems? :\
[13:07] <EF_Codd> jrib ah ok. He said he can do a Feisty Fawn for me for $50 even if I do it today
[13:07] <EF_Codd> i mean only if I do it today
[13:07] <jrib> EF_Codd: feisty is EOL, it's no longer supported
[13:07] <a_> right io am looking at upgrading stuff thanks
[13:07] <EF_Codd> jrib :( I can't really afford more than $70
[13:07] <whyameye> is there any way that I can set the input volume of my sound card so it "sticks" between reboots i.e. I set a volume and when I reboot that volume setting is retained from the last session?
[13:07] <punktalk> savvas: hey man. yeahhh =/. it just gave me the same "running in low resolution mode" bs and the screen was all off center, tried replugging the cords and restarting the moniter, didn't do anything.
[13:07] <ikonia> EF_Codd: I thought you where going to bsd
[13:08] <punktalk> savvas: i had to fix x-server again
[13:08] <ikonia> EF_Codd: your parting comment said ubuntu was rubbish and you where going back to bsd - why are you still here ?
[13:08] <EF_Codd> ikonia I've been using FreeBSD for years
[13:08] <EF_Codd> ikonia I wanted to troll a bit
[13:08] <ikonia> EF_Codd: stop now
[13:08] <EF_Codd> no
[13:08] <EF_Codd> kick me
[13:08] <savvas> there you go :)
[13:08] <chadeldridge> lol
[13:08] <punktalk> lol
[13:09] <PUNISHER> Здравствуйте, ребята!
[13:09] <savvas> punktalk: ok wait a sec
[13:09] <bazhang> !ru | PUNISHER
[13:09] <PUNISHER> Облазил все, что только можно, помогите с bluetooth
[13:09] <punktalk> aight thanks man
[13:09] <igors> hi all..anybody could help to change a file encoding? thats what's i'm trying: http://dpaste.com/90462/
[13:09] <a_> yeah i have upgrades, thanks, will shout again with my new problems l;ater xD
[13:09] <PUNISHER> I, I forget that is english channel =)
[13:09] <PUNISHER> I have a problem at my Bluetooth adapter
[13:10] <PUNISHER> Can you halp me?
[13:10] <Yuretsz> ls
[13:10] <ActionParsnip> !info pidgin > vinny
[13:10] <PUNISHER> Bus 001 Device 006: ID 1131:1004 Integrated System Solution Corp. Bluetooth Device
[13:10] <JonathanEllis> !info pidgin
[13:10] <ActionParsnip> pidgin rocks
[13:11] <savvas> punktalk: can you paste at www.pastebin.com the output of: cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[13:11] <punktalk> yep
[13:11] <savvas> ActionParsnip: empathy does too :p
[13:11] <ActionParsnip> savvas: or install pastebinit
[13:11] <PUNISHER> Bus sdtool browse show "connection time out"
[13:11] <hellboy3> hi
[13:12] <susi_> #so.cs.unibo.it
[13:12] <Ruge> hey guys
[13:12] <ActionParsnip> !hi | ruge
[13:12] <Ruge> im installing ubuntu right now..but ran into an issue
[13:12] <ActionParsnip> Ruge: wassup
[13:12] <serengeti> igors, I think it's all right - if there are only ascii characters in the file, it will show up as ascii and not utf-8
[13:12] <Ruge> i just booted off the disc
[13:12] <Ruge> and ran ubuntu
[13:12] <punktalk> savvas: there it is
[13:12] <Ruge> but its all garbled on my screen!
[13:12] <Ruge> i can only read 1/2 of teh error msg
[13:13] <ActionParsnip> Ruge: did you md5 check the image you downloaded as well as checking the disk for errors?
[13:13] <SiDi> Hi
[13:13] <serengeti> igors, utf-8 is the same as ascii for the basic characters
[13:13] <whyameye> Ruge: define garbled.
[13:13] <SiDi> Does anyone know which file is modifed by vino-preferences, please?
[13:13] <Ruge> i burnt an ubuntu image directly from a CD that game with a magazine
[13:13] <Stargazer> Hey all, i'm using hardy heron. i know it's not my download speed cause i can download something at my max speed, 60kB/s, so is it the servers or something cause my updates are downloading at like 6000B/s ?
[13:13] <vinny> so amsn can't handle it pidgin can't with what can you talk with live webcam image?
[13:13] <Ruge> i see like 3 screens in 1 monitor, overlapping each toher
[13:13] <ActionParsnip> Ruge: have you checked the cd for defects when it forst boots
[13:13] <Ruge> looks like a resolution thing
[13:14] <Ruge> hmmm i didnt check the disc
[13:14] <vinny> that's great Ruge
[13:14] <Ruge> how could i do that?
[13:14] <savvas> punktalk: execute this: sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[13:14] <ActionParsnip> Ruge: give it a check to to be sure
[13:14] <ActionParsnip> Ruge: read the first thing you see when the cd initially loads
[13:14] <ActionParsnip> Ruge: you could also read this
[13:14] <whyameye> Ruge: I think there is an option to boot in VGA mode or safe graphics or something like that. Have you tried that?
[13:14] <vinny> the year is almost 2009
[13:14] <ActionParsnip> !bootoptions | ruge
[13:14] <Ruge> cheers
[13:15] <ActionParsnip> Ruge: you could try disabling acpi
[13:15] <Ruge> ill reset my laptop
[13:15] <Ruge> and find that option
[13:15] <Ruge> <--- n00b lol
[13:15] <punktalk> lol k
[13:15] <savvas> punktalk: done? :)
[13:15] <Mechdave> Ruge, I think you will be needing no frame buffer option
[13:15] <punktalk> yep. need to add to apps?
[13:16] <Ruge> no frame buffer option?
[13:16] <savvas> punktalk: execute this: cat /var/log/Xorg.0.* | pastebinit
[13:16] <OxDeadC0de> anyone know if ide-scsi was replaced with something? I can't find it anywhere, nor ide-cd
[13:16] <Ruge> ive got it checkign my disc atm
[13:16] <savvas> punktalk: give me the link when it's done
[13:16] <punktalk> http://pastebin.com/f370a94e1
[13:16] <Stargazer> Hey guys, why are the hardy updates so slow ?
[13:17] <vinny> Stargazer, what do you mean?
[13:17] <punktalk> jesus christ
[13:17] <vinny> HEY
[13:17] <[mbm]> OxDeadC0de: after the kernels switched voer to the new libata code everything switched to scci sd* devices anyway
[13:17] <vinny> don't misuse the name of the Lord punktalk!!
[13:17] <savvas> punktalk: ok wait
[13:17] <Mechdave> Ruge, no worries
[13:17] <OxDeadC0de> [mbm] so if I want to load the kernel module for an ide cd/rw what module do I load?
[13:17] <deadtommy> ver irc.easynews.com
[13:18] <OxDeadC0de> ide-sd?
[13:18] <vinny> so many people logging on and off there's no trackable conversation possible here
[13:18] <Tyrath> is wubi wubildr.exe ?
[13:18] <Stargazer> Vinny, i can download someting from say rapidshare at my full 60kB/s. but when something downloads and gets updated in hardy it goes at about 12kB/s.
[13:18] <vinny> maybe hardy is just so knew everybody wants stuff from it
[13:18] <vinny> of course, I'm just a peabrain
[13:18] <punktalk> k
[13:18] <[mbm]> OxDeadC0de: load the module? let hal take care of that at startup, no need to manually load modules
[13:19] <Stargazer> Vinny, hardy is 8.04. the new one is intrepid which 8.10.
[13:19] <OxDeadC0de> [mbm] well hal isn't working for this guy then, it's not loading his cd/rw
[13:19] <vinny> intrepid is really cool I can tell you from here
[13:19] <BulBulRed> [14:18] <vinny> so many people logging on and off there's no trackable conversation possible here
[13:19] <BulBulRed> i just disabled messages like join, part, quit, topic changes, ...
[13:20] <BulBulRed> i just see people typing, that's all
[13:20] <BulBulRed> maybe you could try that :)
[13:20] <ActionParsnip> OxDeadC0de: its loaded by default
[13:20] <bazhang> vinny, please chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[13:20] <punktalk> savvas?
[13:20] <OxDeadC0de> He says his cd/rw was working fine in 2.6.24, but now in 2.6.27 it doesn't
[13:20] <waylandbill> I upgraded to intrepid recently and my IDE cd writer is missing. I thought maybe ide-scsi didn't load and maybe I could modprobe it, but the module isn't even there. What can I do to load the ide cd drive?
[13:20] <OxDeadC0de> that's him right there
[13:20] <waylandbill> that's me. :-)
[13:21] <Tyrath> thanks for the help before anyhow
[13:21] <Tyrath> catch you
[13:21] <djmrsmith> i need some help :-) i think im in the wrong channel though
[13:22] <gaben> hello from  HU
[13:22] <djmrsmith> i run xubuntu, i upgraded to 8.10 and now i lost my vpn settings and do not remember how to re configure to connect
[13:22] <djmrsmith> where can i find my old config?
[13:23] <savvas> punktalk: what happened exactly?
[13:23] <Ruge> hmmm
[13:23] <Ruge> no errors found
[13:23] <savvas> punktalk: what happened exactly?
[13:24] <waylandbill> I jumped in the channel just as someone was saying that it is loaded by default, which I assume means ide-scsi, but there's no ide-scsi.ko to load in my filesystem.
[13:24] <OxDeadC0de> they said ide-scsi was depricated and replaced so it was removed (I think that's what they said at least)
[13:25] <punktalk> with twhat?
[13:25] <punktalk> savvas: when?
[13:25] <asociacija> can anyone remind the link where to install 9500gt properly on hardy?
[13:25] <dob1> hi, why every time i start ubuntu i have to edit the network connection property? it doesn't save it?
[13:25] <savvas> punktalk: when you logged out
[13:25] <bdheeman> hi, friends!
[13:25] <James_UK> looking for a grub guru to help me boot windows xp from grub... XP installed on SATA, Grub and Ubuntu on IDE2 Slave
[13:25] <savvas> punktalk: it showed the login screen or did it say anything?
[13:26] <bdheeman> anyone out there help me make my wireless connection up plz?
[13:26] <JonathanEllis> Im just creating a ﻿small 100MB dedicated boot partition. I have ubuntu and winxp dual booting on this machine. I intend to put GRUB on the boot partition. At least I guess thats where it should go. I assume its best to make the boot partition ext3 NOT NTFS. Or would ext2 be better?
[13:26] <punktalk> ahh. when i log back in, it gives me a messed up screen where its mega off-center but loops back on the other side. it says 'ubuntu is running in low graphics mode, something something driver"
[13:26] <Guest86393> Alguém Brasil:
[13:26] <Guest86393> Alguém do Brasil?
[13:26] <Ruge> Yo, i just checked the disc, no dramas, would i have to do anything to the VGA option
[13:26] <Pici> !br | Guest86393
[13:26] <punktalk> savvas: when i hit ctrl+alt+bkspce it gives the regular login screen, but still all offcenter and stuff. i could log on, but it was impossible to actually do anything. x-server fix, back here.
[13:27] <jayson_r> JonathanEllis: you can use ext2 for /boot - it doesn't need journaling
[13:27] <Guest86393> #ubuntu-br
[13:27] <djmrsmith> anybody know?
[13:27] <fosco_> Guest82961: type /join #ubuntu-br in your IRC program
[13:28] <savvas> punktalk: dude, that's normal :)
[13:28] <savvas> punktalk: you could login, right?
[13:28] <James_UK> looking for a grub guru to help me boot windows xp from grub please... XP installed on SATA, Grub and Ubuntu on IDE2 Slave
[13:28] <djmrsmith> upgraded to 8.10 and lost all my vpn settings... how i get them back?
[13:28] <ubd> how do ı change the permissions of a usb drive
[13:28] <punktalk> well.. yeah. but it was too hard to see anything, get anything done. i couldn't even check the driver state
[13:29] <bdheeman> hello
[13:29] <savvas> punktalk: execute this: gksu nvidia-settings
[13:30] <savvas> punktalk: do you see "X Server Display Configuration
[13:30] <DarkKnight> hey i m planning to learn flash....is it possible for me to learn in ubuntu...whatare the tools reuired
[13:30] <savvas> punktalk: do you see "X Server Display Configuration" in the menu?
[13:30] <DarkKnight> hey i m planning to learn flash....is it possible for me to learn in ubuntu...whatare the tools required
[13:30] <punktalk> !!!!! yes!!!!!!!!!
[13:30] <punktalk> savvas! ok wait... need to navigate this properly......
[13:30] <rdw200169_> DarkKnight: last thing i read, codeweavers cracked running macromedia flash in linux
[13:31] <savvas> punktalk: ok, click "detect displays"
[13:31] <rdw200169_> DarkKnight: regardless, you're gonna buy some software, it's proprietary stuff, that flash
[13:31] <ubd> how do ı change the permissions of a usb drive
[13:31] <savvas> punktalk: did that? :)
[13:31] <punktalk> savvas:      You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver. Please edit your X configuration file (just run `nvidia-xconfig` as root), and restart the X server. (popup)
[13:31] <DarkKnight> rdw200169_; so its codeweaver...the open source..??
[13:31] <JonathanEllis> ﻿jayson_r: Thanks. What is journaling? And by the way, does the boot partition have to be mounted within ubuntu since doesnt ubuntu get loaded after boot?
[13:31] <tolis> guys anyone know how to install ventrilo?
[13:32] <ubd> how do aeeeeeeeeeee change the permissions of a usb drive
[13:32] <savvas> punktalk: hm.. ok close nvidia-settings
[13:32] <punktalk> k
[13:32] <Tyrath> hey just a thought. wubi is an exe file no?
[13:32] <savvas> Tyrath: yes
[13:32] <punktalk> savvas: i mean, i just hit ok. im just sitting at the regular x Server settings
[13:33] <Tyrath> in which case if I install that on a different partition, will that partition be operating under windows or linux?
[13:33] <tolis> how can i install ventrilo at linux?
[13:33] <James_UK> tolis you have to use WINE there is no Linux client
[13:33] <tolis> o ok thanks
[13:33] <savvas> punktalk: ok close nvidia-settings, press Quit and Quite and wait, I'll try something :)
[13:34] <James_UK> looking for a grub guru to help me boot windows xp from grub please... XP installed on SATA, Grub and Ubuntu on IDE2 Slave
[13:34] <punktalk> savvas: awesome =) thanks so much dude
[13:34] <Kartagis> what package do i need for X libraries?
[13:34] <natschil> hello
[13:35] <natschil> I have a problem with ubuntu : lspci doesn't show my wireless card, but lspci -H1 does
[13:35] <metrick> I now have only ubuntu! however my dvd burner will not show up,  rather nothing reads. and my computer takes it as unkown. is there anyway that I can scann the Drive and find the driver for it?
[13:35] <asociacija> hello.. i installed 9500gt "new" drivers from adept.. and it still shows pc is using vesa drivers.. any help?
[13:35] <savvas> punktalk: do this again: sudo nvidia-xconfig; cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | pastebinit
[13:36] <Kartagis> what package do i need for X libraries? xlibs?
[13:36] <Pici> !xlibs | Kartagis
[13:36] <punktalk> savvas: i just checked the hardware drivers, says nvidia is enabled and in use =)
[13:36] <fosco_> asociacija:  (just run `nvidia-xconfig` as root), and restart the X server.
[13:36] <punktalk> im gonna test it, hang on
[13:36] <savvas> punktalk: very well
[13:36] <metrick> T_T cant find help anywhere with this one
[13:36] <tolis> how can i use wine to install ventrilo?
[13:36] <natschil> does anyone know the difference between lspci and lspci -H1
[13:37] <natschil> please?
[13:37] <JonathanEllis> Can I move an extended partition or once its written is it set in stone?
[13:37] <asociacija> thanks fosco_ i will try
[13:37] <Kartagis> thank you
[13:37] <fosco_> natschil:  -H1    Use direct hardware access via Intel configuration mechanism  1.
[13:37] <Pici> natschil: Have you read the lspci manpage? This option is explained.
[13:37] <fosco_> just read man lspci
[13:37] <sinan> how can i know the chip running on my wireless network card?
[13:37] <divine_> tolis, simply double click a .exe in ubuntu. make sure you have latest wine (1.1.8) by looking on winehq.org (select download then ubuntu and you see instructions how to configure your package manager to include updates to wine
[13:38] <Ruge> crud
[13:38] <Ruge> i still get the gfx problem
[13:38] <bazhang> sinan, pci or usb
[13:38] <ubuntu_> how do i install programs onto ubuntu
[13:38] <fosco_> sinan: lspci
[13:38] <punktalk> savvas: lol. it said i have no directx8/drivers, exactly what it said last time. i assume it still broken.... but it looks fixed!!!!!!!! D=
[13:38] <Ruge> i see 1 1/2 screens on my display
[13:38] <fosco_> ubuntu_: just run synaptic
[13:38] <sinan> bazhang: pci, but i can't use lspci :)
[13:38] <ubuntu_> whats that?
[13:38] <bazhang> sinan, why not
[13:38] <Ruge> and that "there was an error starting GN...."
[13:38] <zhaozhou> Is there an application to kinda paste ALL info about a screen? I.e. everything from resolution to horizontal sync?
[13:39] <Pici> !software | ubuntu_
[13:39] <ubuntu_> thank you
[13:39] <sinan> bazhang: i am in an embedded system, lspci doesn't exist ! :)
[13:39] <Ruge> should i take a picture of my screen?
[13:39] <Ruge> and show u guys?
[13:39] <Ruge> looks funny.
[13:39] <savvas> punktalk: highlight me if you need me
[13:40] <Trae> anyone know about Metacity?  I need to know how to make a window sticky where it won't resize.  (heh I'm playin World of Warcraft in a windowed mode and need to make sure I don't accidently resize the window)
[13:40] <Ruge> any takers? :)
[13:40] <Kartagis> ǃqtü
[13:40] <Kartagis> ǃqt
[13:40] <natschil> yes,  have read the manpage pici, but I do not understand why running lspci normally doesn't detect the wlan card Note: It was detected in hardy
[13:40] <Mu5> Need help unmountint dvd and giving proper uid/gid values , anyone familiar?
[13:41] <emorris> hi, in my grub boot menu, it has Debian blah blah kernel instead of Ubuntu, is there any way to change it back? Obviously i could just change it in menu.lst, but it would put it back after each kernel upgrade
[13:41] <James_UK> looking for a grub guru to help me boot windows xp from grub please... XP installed on SATA, Grub and Ubuntu on IDE2 Slave
[13:41] <savvas> punktalk: highlight me if you need me
[13:41] <punktalk> savvas: thanks for all the help man
[13:41] <Mu5> Does anyone know how to unmount dvd?
[13:41] <punktalk> im probably just unhelpable D= lol.
[13:41] <savvas> punktalk: it works? :)
[13:42] <emorris> zhaozhou: maybe xprop -root , although it might not quite be what you want
[13:42] <punktalk> savvas: nah =/
[13:42] <Kartagis> ǃqt3
[13:42] <natschil> is there a way to set lspci to use the -H1 option by default?
[13:42] <punktalk> savvas: man i just wanna play some Warcraft III......
[13:42] <Mu5> I just wanna play Wrath Of the Lich King!!!
[13:42] <fosco_> natschil: alias lspci="lspci -H1"
[13:42] <Ruge> anyone help?
[13:42] <Mu5> I am not able to install
[13:42] <savvas> punktalk: ok, do this again: sudo nvidia-xconfig; cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | pastebinit
[13:42] <punktalk> mu5: WotLC looks tight
[13:43] <Mu5> I bought it , and i cant install on linux...
[13:43] <emorris> Ruge: what's the problem?
[13:43] <punktalk> savvas:    http://pastebin.com/f7a264c35
[13:43] <natschil> thx fosco, will try that
[13:44] <Kartagis> what's thw package for qt 3 header files?
[13:44] <Ruge> emorris: hey mate, i just burnt an image on Ubuntu, and ive booted it up on my old laptop, i got to the first screen but its all garbled, i see 1 1/2 screens on my display, and i get a box that i can see half of, saying "there was an error starting the GN.." (thats all i see), any hints?
[13:44] <natschil> thx fosco, but this doesn't work as I need root provileges to run lspci -H1
[13:44] <Mu5> Anyone familiar with unmounting dvd ... /unhide
[13:44] <fosco_> Kartagis: aptitude search qt3 | grep headers
[13:45] <savvas> punktalk: done it?
[13:45] <punktalk> i posted the link
[13:45] <punktalk> yes
[13:45] <emorris> Ruge: press ctrl+alt+f2, this should take you to a terminal, correct?
[13:45] <fosco_> natschil: you asked the way to do it, that's the way
[13:45] <savvas> damn internet
[13:45] <Kartagis> fosco_, nothing returned
[13:45] <Ruge> yep, i see the terminal
[13:45] <punktalk> savvas: thats right yeah?
[13:46] <fosco_> libqt3-headers
[13:46] <Mu5> well gonna go blow blizzard up now
[13:46] <natschil> thx, but I still have thw problem with linux not finding my wlan card
[13:46] <Ruge> this is the first time im ever using linux, so bear with me =)
[13:46] <savvas> punktalk: sorry, I got disconnected, give me the link
[13:46] <natschil> (Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11a/b/g (rev 02) by the way)
[13:46] <jaunty> hi
[13:46] <bdheeman> anyone out there who may help me make my wireless connection up please?
[13:46] <emorris> Ruge: ok, now type sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg    <--this will ask you a few questions, then attempt to reconfigure the GUI
[13:47] <jaunty> there used to be a doc in the wiki of how to upgrade alsa version, where is that?
[13:47] <punktalk> aight http://pastebin.com/f7a264c35
[13:47] <Ruge> emorris: its thinking..
[13:47] <jaunty> !alsa
[13:47] <savvas> punktalk: what's your default resolution?
[13:48] <Ruge> emorris: attempt to audodetect video hardware
[13:48] <punktalk> u good savvas?
[13:48] <gille> hej
[13:48] <punktalk> idk how to check the default, but it should be 1680x1020
[13:48] <DarkKnight> hey which software to use to learn flash
[13:48] <savvas> punktalk: what resolution you used to use? 1024x768 ?
[13:48] <savvas> ah ok
[13:49] <punktalk> when i used windows, 1680,1020. but it looks like its 1680 now, which is weird.
[13:49] <killerTAGG> hello
[13:49] <emorris> Ruge: yes
[13:49] <punktalk> savvas: idk what my res is right now, u know how to check?
[13:49] <killerTAGG> !list
[13:50] <savvas> punktalk: no, no need, I found it, wait please
[13:50] <Ruge> emorris: use kernel framebuffer device interface?
[13:50] <punktalk> savvas: oh aight i found it too lol
[13:50] <emorris> Ruge: yes
[13:51] <emorris> Ruge: do you have an unusual keyboard layout?
[13:51] <Ruge> emorris: its generic, ntohing fancy
[13:51] <Ruge> emorris: i blazed thru it, now im at a screen with X.Org server modules that should be loaded by default:
[13:52] <emorris> Ruge: what's it asking?
[13:52] <emorris> 1 sec
[13:52] <savvas> punktalk: try this: sudo wget http://pastebin.com/pastebin.php?dl=m5134243b -O /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[13:52] <savvas> punktalk: tell me when it's done
[13:53] <Ruge> emorris: Configuring xserver-xorg  This option is recommended fo rexpreienced users only. Im most cases, all of these modules should be enabled.
[13:53] <punktalk> savvas: done
[13:53] <psynophile> is Flannel here?
[13:53] <emorris> Ruge: just accept the default, i guess
[13:54] <savvas> punktalk: ok now log out, press ctrl+alt+backspace and login back - don't go yet, wait I want to tell you something else
[13:54] <savvas> punktalk: if when you login, you have the same problem, press CTRL+ALT+F1 and login from the linux console, type: sudo apt-get install irssi
[13:55] <bdheeman> may I have your attention please?
[13:55] <kamil> hello
[13:55] <punktalk> k
[13:55] <savvas> punktalk: it will install irssi for you, and irc client. you type: irssi and then: /connect irc.ubuntu.com and /join #ubuntu
[13:55] <Ruge> emorris: yep gone thru it, its gone back to thinking.. ill wait
[13:55] <punktalk> oh man i need to write that all down hahaha.
[13:55] <emorris> Ruge: what version of ubuntu you using?
[13:56] <Ruge> emorris: a slightly older version, cuz i was lazy to download (and im using 2001 laptop)
[13:56] <gammy> Every time a user calls a process va crontab, the sh process becomes defunct. This is in intrepid. Has anyone experienced this?
[13:56] <savvas> punktalk: it's not that hard: 1) sudo apt-get install irssi 2) irssi 3) /connect irc.ubuntu.com 4) /join #ubuntu :)
[13:56] <Ruge> emorris: yep done, im back to terminal
[13:56] <savvas> punktalk: install irssi now if you want
[13:56] <emorris> Ruge: any idea which one?
[13:56] <Ruge> emorris: 7.04 FiestyFawn
[13:56] <emorris> Ruge: ok, now      sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[13:56] <Ruge> emorris: ill get updated version later, just testing out my laptop performance atm
[13:57] <emorris> Ruge: newer versions of ubuntu have better hardware support
[13:57] <Ruge> emorris: even if my hardware is from 2000/2001?
[13:57] <savvas> punktalk: ok now you may log out and do what said :) If I'm not here, execute: gksu nvidia-settings and try to correct your display
[13:57] <bazhang> Ruge, what video card
[13:57] <kamil> I have a problem with sound it is listed as a bug, somebody came up with a solution some time ago but I don't know exactly what should I do the solution is "...with "options snd-hda-intel enable_msi=1" set in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base (no other alsa option, no kernel option) I have success." anyone know what to do ??
[13:57] <emorris> Ruge: did you try that restart command?
[13:57] <punktalk> alright man, thanks so much
[13:58] <Ruge> bazhang: ATi RAGE Mobility, detected by FiestyFawn
[13:58] <Nirodh> Hi, I'm having problems with my new monitor, I can't set it to 75hz for some reason, can somebody help me please?
[13:58] <Ruge> hmmm
[13:58] <punktalk> savvas: youre a god. hope this works.
[13:58] <savvas> punktalk: if it's not in center, try change it from your monitor (there should be some buttons on your monitor to correct the width and height of the display
[13:58] <Kartagis> hello? do i need wpa_supplicant to be able to load wireless certificate into ubuntu?
[13:58] <punktalk> indeed
[13:58] <Ruge> Starting GNOME Display Manager........ [fail]
[13:58] <adam7> Nirodh: is it an LCD?
[13:58] <savvas> punktalk: ok, go :)
[13:58] <punktalk> =) thanks man
[13:58] <Nirodh> adam7: Yes it is
[13:58] <joaopinto> kamil, you need to edit /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base
[13:58] <savvas> n/p :)
[13:59] <Kartagis> punktalk, did you tell me or someone else?
[13:59] <bia> ciao
[13:59] <kamil> ﻿:joaopinto : I know but how exactly ??
[13:59] <punktalk> ?
[13:59] <Ruge> emorris: looks like my GNOME Display Manager is failing
[13:59] <joaopinto> kamil, and add "options snd-hda-intel enable_msi=1"
[13:59] <bazhang> Ruge, you should try at least gutsy on that
[13:59] <punktalk>  someone else. thanks for everything savvas
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[13:59] <adam7> Nirodh: I suspect most LCDs only support up to 60Hz
[13:59] <Ruge> hmm
[13:59] <emorris> Ruge: what does it do/say?
[13:59] <kamil> ﻿joaopinto: no deleting no installing any files or smt like that?
[13:59] <bia> hello
[13:59] <joaopinto> kamil, gksudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base
[13:59] <adam7> Nirodh: why would you need more than that? they don't flicker like the CRTs do
[14:00] <craigbass1976> couple of quickies...  I need to make an instructional video.  Which app should I be gunning for? I want to be able to speed up the video a bit (like charlie chaplin movies) and insert subtitles.  I also need at least a stereo audio track for background music
[14:00] <joaopinto> kamil, it's about editing a text file and adding a line with the option
[14:00] <Ruge> emorris: i typed your command, "* Stopping GNOME Display Manager... [ OK ]"  then  "* Starting GNOME Display Manager... [FAIL]"
[14:00] <kamil> ﻿joaopinto: if that's a;; that would be great
[14:00] <craigbass1976> The next question...  I post code on rafb.net.  Were would someone post a picture in the same manner?
[14:00] <Nirodh> adam7: This is flickering like wild when I watch anything fast-paced or scroll quickly
[14:01] <adam7> Nirodh: ah, that's probably because you have the desktop effects turned on
[14:01] <adam7> Nirodh: can you disable compiz-fusion?
[14:01] <dli> I followed pulseaudio howto, but no default sink found within pulseaudio manager, paman
[14:01] <osubuck> system> preferences> appearance, use no effects
[14:02] <Nirodh> adam7: Yes I've just disabled it, I'll try putting on a video and seeing what happens
[14:02] <osubuck> think that's what you're looking for
[14:02] <FloridaGuy> after i got metacity working...my themes work half a**.....panel and menu wont themes
[14:02] <slinx> hello
[14:02] <kamil> ﻿joaopinto: thanks I think now only one restart and hopefully everything will work..
[14:02] <adam7> !hi | slinx
[14:03] <slinx> im using kubuntu now when i try to install ubuntu 7.10 or 8.04 it goes to busybox and wont install?
[14:03] <Ruge> emorris: any ideas?
[14:03] <bazhang> slinx, why not upgrade via the net
[14:03] <pawan> whats up
[14:03] <adam7> !offtopic
[14:03] <slinx> how do i upgrade to ubuntu 7.10?
[14:03] <Nirodh> adam7: Yes! It worked perfectly, thank you very much
[14:03] <bazhang> slinx, what version are you on
[14:04] <slinx> kubuntu 8.04
[14:04] <kamil> ﻿joaopinto: bye & thanks
[14:04] <bazhang> slinx, you mean 8.10?
[14:04] <slinx> yes my mistake
[14:04] <adam7> Nirodh: no problem :) it's too bad that the compiz doesn't play nice with videos. Everyone has that problem, I think
[14:04] <scientes> how do i grep a bunch of files?
[14:05] <Ruge> gahh damn ubuntu! if only i understood you!
[14:05] <bazhang> slinx, did you check the package manager?
[14:05] <emorris> Ruge: hmm, that's a pain. i know in intrepid, you can remove /etc/X11/xorg.conf, and it will sort it out for you, but I think in your case you would have to edit that file by hand, which can be a bit of a pain. I'm not sure I can help you much more, but maybe someone else can. 7.04 is a very old release and not supported any more. As bazhang you really need gutsy or newer, but if you're going to download anything you may as well get intrep
[14:05] <emorris> id.
[14:05] <FloridaGuy> anyone here
[14:05] <slinx> for what
[14:05] <bazhang> err update manager
[14:05] <scientes> Ruge, ubuntu isnt hard to learn :)
[14:05] <scientes> Ruge, makes more sense than windows
[14:05] <RizR> adam7, Nirodh: I play vids fine with compiz. got emerald on as well.
[14:05] <Ruge> emorris: no dramas mate, ill get the latest copy off a mate and give it a go
[14:05] <emorris> Ruge: in intrepid it's much more likely to 'just work'
[14:05] <Nirodh> RizR: How'd you manage that?
[14:06] <adam7> RizR: what video card do you have? I know my ATI card hates videos
[14:06] <bazhang> Ruge, you may want to try the livecd first
[14:06] <Ruge> scientes: heh its good, today's the first time ive ever touched something related to linux
[14:06] <RizR> Nirodh: out of the box.
[14:06] <RizR> adam7: ati redeon x600
[14:06] <RizR> not a fancy one.
[14:06] <slinx> brb 2mins
[14:06] <sternocera> Hi all. I have a zebex USB barcode scanner that works under opensuse 10.3, but does not work under xubuntu 8.04. Anyone have any idea why that might be? Thanks.
[14:06] <adam7> RizR: using fglrx or the open source driver?
[14:06] <scientes> Ruge, but it is differnt :)
[14:06] <laobing> #ubuntu-cn
[14:06] <RizR> adam7: do you want any output/logs from my box?
[14:06] <RizR> adam7: fglrx
[14:06] <scientes> how do i grep a folder of files for a line?
[14:06] <Ruge> bazhang: livecd.... ive got and old LiveCD on me heh
[14:07] <adam7> RizR: really? maybe you have to change the video display mode in the video player to get that to work?
[14:07] <Pretto> how to list services started on boot?
[14:07] <Ruge> btw how do i exit the terminal?
[14:07] <adam7> Ruge: type exit
[14:07] <RizR> adam7: nop. nada. It was a problem in emmmm 7.10. but since 8.04 its all well.
[14:07] <Ruge> damn old copy, goes back to terminal again
[14:07] <adam7> RizR: hm, you're just lucky then ;)
[14:08] <Ruge> maybe its time to ditch the 7.04 lol
[14:08] <RizR> adam7: :) may be. but gives me enough to brag my windows buddies
[14:09] <adam7> RizR: and to some of us :)
[14:09] <scientes> what should i do if my gedit preferances never stick between uses?
[14:09] <adam7> Does anyone have falcon working in Intrepid?
[14:09] <Ruge> rofl exit isnt working for me lmao
[14:09] <adam7> Ruge: try ctrl+d
[14:10] <Ruge> nopes, same result, back to terminal
[14:10] <RizR> adam7: :-) not intentional.
[14:10] <Ruge> maybe its cuz my GNOME thing is failing
[14:10] <mymini> id
[14:10] <adam7> RizR: I'll have to look into that sometime and see if I can duplicate your success
[14:11] <craigbass1976> couple of quickies...  I need to make an instructional video.  Which app should I be gunning for? I want to be able to speed up the video a bit (like charlie chaplin movies) and insert subtitles.  I also need at least a stereo audio track for background music
[14:11] <Pretto> is there a way to list services that  starts during boot time?
[14:11] <RizR> adam7: what card you're on?
[14:11] <slinx> ok so how i net install ubuntu 7.10 from kubuntu 8.10?
[14:11] <adam7> RizR: ATI 3850 w/ fglrx on intrepid
[14:11] <adam7> RizR: Can't work on it now, though :(
[14:12] <bazhang> slinx, you want to add gnome to kubuntu 8.10?
[14:12] <aaron_> how do I install cairo-dock in intrepid?
[14:12] <Ruge> yeah i dunno
[14:12] <Dr_willis> !msg ubottu  uuid
[14:12] <Ruge> think ill give up on fiestyfawn
[14:12] <bazhang> !blkid
[14:12] <TemulentAlexa> server
[14:12] <craigbass1976> Pretto, do a ps -ef and that will tell you everything that's running.  If you hit Ctrl+Alt+F1 frmo the login screen (once you log in, there's more stuff running) you'll see.  Do a ps -ef > ~/running-processes.txt if you want to peruse it later.  Ctrl+Alt+F7 will get you back to the login screen
[14:13] <slinx> i want to get a linux which i can run compiz on without complications, kubuntu im using at moment is giving me headaches with compiz
[14:13] <J6dof> trying to install hsf modem driver in intrepid , but neither the deb package nor the source code work
[14:13] <J6dof> any solution ?
[14:13] <bazhang> slinx, what version are you on now of kubuntu
[14:13] <craigbass1976> slinx, is it kubuntu or your graphics card?
[14:13] <slinx> 8.10 32bit
[14:13] <bazhang> install ubuntu-desktop slinx
[14:13] <Pretto> craigbass1976, i just wanna list those services started during boot time... like the chkconfig on rpm distros
[14:13] <slinx> it might be my graphics card, i have ati
[14:14] <RizR> slinx: ubuntu (one with gnome version)
[14:14] <ghostlines> even if tls/ssl is used with postfix, does the initial connection still need to use port 25?
[14:14] <craigbass1976> Pretto, dunno then
[14:14] <e-frame> J6dof: i can install the hsf modem, but my sound get problem ( dell vostro 1400 )
[14:14] <slinx> is there a way to install ubuntu gnome version via net install?
[14:15] <Pretto> craigbass1976, thank you anyway
[14:15] <bazhang> slinx, yes
[14:15] <slinx> can i please have steps:D
[14:15] <bazhang> slinx, just install ubuntu-desktop
[14:15] <slinx> ok how i install ubuntu desktop
[14:15] <ghostlines> my isp blocks outgoing port 25 connections, so i wanted to use tls/ssl that use other ports for the connection, but i'm not too sure if this can work
[14:15] <savvas> scientes: close gedit, and execute this: cd $HOME; sudo chown -R $USER:$USER .gnome2 .gconf
[14:15] <bazhang> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop slinx
[14:15] <savvas> scientes: run gedit again and see if it works
[14:15] <xmatrix> slinx, i believe wat bazhang is trying to explain to you is, open terminal, sudo apt-get ubuntu-desktop
[14:15] <J6dof> how can i install dell's conexant hsf driver in intrepid ?
[14:16] <scientes> ahh yesm, the sudo problem
[14:16] <bazhang> slinx, that is the package name.
[14:16] <Ruge> this is the error im getting: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=651136
[14:16] <natschil> hello
[14:16] <bazhang> slinx, open a terminal and type that
[14:16] <slinx> ok installing now
[14:16] <natschil> I have this problem with my broadcom wireless
[14:16] <MistrJ> hi how can i install j2me enviorment for ubuntu ?
[14:16] <natschil> lspci only detects it if I type sudo lspci -H1
[14:17] <bazhang> slinx, when it is done installing then logout and choose gnome from session (at login window)
[14:17] <natschil> I have a feeling this might be because of the new kernel
[14:17] <slinx> ok
[14:17] <kri> hi i have some dependency problems when trying to install transmission (i need libgtk2.0-0 and that needs libcups2 but i have libcupsys2). If i sudp apt-get remove libcupsys2 many programs dpending on that will be broken, what would i do?
[14:17] <slinx> thanks for help, tryed fixing like 9000 times:P
[14:17] <jangli> Hi. I just installed bacula and mysql on a new ubuntu 8.10, but bacula-dir doesn't start at boot... according to the log, it can't connect to mysql. starting it manually after boot works fine. according to ls /etc/rc2.d mysql should start before bacula-dir. what could be wrong?
[14:17] <bazhang> np :)
[14:18] <RizR> adam7: just checking the version of fglrx on my box. your card doesnt seem to be in the list of officially supported card.
[14:18] <RizR> adam7: dono much about it but seems strange.
[14:18] <savvas> scientes: if that doesn't do it, try removing the gedit configuration files: find $HOME -name "*gedit*"
[14:18] <scientes> it owkred thx
[14:18] <jimcooncat> jangli -- don't know, but maybe mysql takes a while to start and bacula's too fast
[14:19] <lianimator> is there a plugin to show Now Playing song in pidgin?
[14:19] <savvas> n/p :)
[14:19] <adam7> RizR: are you using the one that is in the restricted manager?
[14:19] <lianimator> musictracker no longer works.. "no PIDGIN" error while compiling
[14:19] <natschil> con somebody pease help?
[14:19] <Pretto> craigbass1976,  found, sysv-rc-conf package
[14:19] <adam7> lianimator: is there a pidgin-dev package or a purple-dev package? you might install them before compiling
[14:19] <RizR> adam7: yep. version: 2:8.543-0ubuntu4 and package name is xorg-driver-fglrx
[14:20] <RizR> adam7: installs couple of more packages with it.
[14:20] <scientes> where did the gui go for creating new keyrings other than my login one?
[14:20] <jangli> jimcooncat: is there a way to make bacula wait for mysql to start?
[14:20] <adam7> RizR: you're using Hardy, right?
[14:20] <RizR> intrepid
[14:20] <RizR> adam7: intrepid
[14:20] <adam7> scientes: it's called seahorse, should be in accessories
[14:20] <adam7> RizR: oh, so you have the same one I do then
[14:20] <adam7> hm
[14:20] <RizR> adam7: but upgraded from hady
[14:20] <adam7> RizR: so did I
[14:20] <ph8> i've got a vanilla intrepid install that can't play MKVs in xine - it can in VLC mind - any ideas what i need to install? I swear my old hardy install could
[14:21] <scientes> that option was removeed in intrepid though
[14:21] <scientes> adam7
[14:21] <adam7> RizR: my fglrx might be weird though, because I have installed versions that weren't in the Ubuntu repos
[14:21] <RizR> adam7: what your experiences have been like with open source driver?
[14:21] <adam7> RizR: I've used radeonhd, it works ok, but no 3d accel
[14:21] <e-frame> i found this http://linux.dell.com/files/ubuntu/hardy/modem-drivers/hsf/hsfmodem_7.68.00.09oem_i386.deb but when i install it, my sound get problem. the speakers works well, but the headphone output got no sound. any help?
[14:21] <jimcooncat> jangli, if you find the upstart piece that starts bacula, you could put a sleep command in there. Or you could use monit to start bacula up instead, and have monit check for a connection to mysql
[14:21] <scientes> oh it was just oobscured thx adam7
[14:21] <lianimator> adam7: installing pidgin-dev will install 59 new packages 20 MB to download, 79 MB more disk space.. does this look correct?
[14:21] <xmatrix> is there any features in ibex that is essential and would make a user switch?
[14:21] <xmatrix> from hardy
[14:21] <adam7> lianimator: I don't know, but probably.
[14:21] <gmaq> Any recommendations for Bluetooth Adaptors that work OOTB with Gutsy?
[14:21] <adam7> xmatrix: if you're happy with Hardy, no point in switching
[14:22] <bazhang> xmatrix, check the notes
[14:22] <bazhang> !notes
[14:22] <lianimator> adam7: worth a try.
[14:22] <adam7> lianimator: yep. Usually the -dev packages make the compilers happier
[14:23] <Ruge> okay my ubuntu looks fine on safe mode
[14:23] <scientes> can i encrypt my home directory after having installed?, i can easily move my files from and then back
[14:23] <adam7> !encrypt
[14:23] <jangli> jimcooncat: wouldn't sleep make the whole bootprocess stop for that time?
[14:23] <lianimator> does ubottu need a brain upgrade?
[14:23] <scientes> lol
[14:23] <bazhang> !truecrypt
[14:23] <adam7> bazhang: thanks :)
[14:24] <bazhang> np :)
[14:24] <RizR> adam7: cant think of something. putting this topic to sleep for now I guess :)
[14:24] <scientes> i know a out truecrypt its great, but for partition encrypton it seems like not the thing
[14:24] <Ruge> emorris: heh, the safe mode booting of Ubuntu looks perfect
[14:24] <Ruge> emorris: but there "was an error starting the GNOME Settings Daemon"
[14:25] <ubuntu_> hello?
[14:25] <b3ta> hi in ubuntu,how should i add services to default run level
[14:25] <adam7> !hi | ubuntu_
[14:25] <jimcooncat> jangli: you'd have to figure how to do it just for bacula. You could put it in the start portion of /etc/init.d/baculad (or whatever that's called)
[14:25] <adam7> b3ta: update-rc.d should do it
[14:25] <RizR> !runlevel |b2ta
[14:25] <RizR> !runlevel |b3ta
[14:25] <Ruge> hey
[14:25] <Ruge> could i be getting errors
[14:25] <RizR> !run-level |b3ta
[14:25] <Dr_willis> !upstart
[14:25] <Ruge> cuz im running ubuntu off the disc?
[14:26] <ubuntu_> hi, I'm trying to install ubuntu; can anyone give me some help? Thanks a lot in advance
[14:26] <JonathanEllis> Hi. I am trying to find info on what /boot is for and failing. Can anyone help please?
[14:26] <savvas> scientes: you can use an encrypted ~/Private directory: http://tombuntu.com/index.php/2008/09/23/encrypted-private-directory-in-ubuntu-810/ and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EncryptedPrivateDirectory
[14:26] <RizR> ubuntu_: in what stage do you need the help?
[14:26] <scientes> savvas that not what i want
[14:27] <jimcooncat> jangli: the monit test would be much smarter though; bigger learning curve of course
[14:27] <Dr_willis> JonathanD,  thasts where all your kernels and grub/menu files are normally kept.
[14:27] <ubuntu_> step 4 of 7, partitioning, there's a blank list (probably 'cause the hard disk is completely empty)
[14:27] <adam7> JonathanEllis: /boot is where the grub configuration file lives, and where the init images (not the right word) live
[14:28] <RizR> !partition
[14:28] <RizR> !partition | ubuntu_
[14:29] <jangli> jimcooncat: I'm just testing with a sleep in /etc/init.d/bacula-director .... but you're right, I would also prefer monit... so sleep to make it work quickly while learning to configure monit ;-)
[14:29] <JonathanEllis> So if I am dual booting with winxp. Is there an advantage in having a separate partition for /boot. I gather if I put another linux distro on then they shouldnt share /boot if that contains the kernel. So I guess a separate partition for GRUB which I make bootable would be the best bet and leave /boot on my / partition
[14:29] <jimcooncat> jangli: sure, I would think five second would be plenty, but you may have to play with it
[14:29] <JonathanEllis> Wish I could put the right punctuation in when I ask a question!
[14:30] <Ruge> anyone have any idea why GNOME cant acccess Daemon?
[14:30] <mibbot> i'm running a minimal, but have no sound. Have installed: alsa-base alsa-utils linux-sound-base
[14:30] <mibbot> any ideas?
[14:30] <ubuntu_> thanks, I'll try that, but I have to say, none of the buttons in the partition menu is working, I can only click one 'cancel' or 'back'
[14:30] <jangli> jimcooncat : testing with 50 at first, just to make sure ;-)
[14:30] <Nirodh> mibbot: Run alsa-mixer and make sure everything is unmuted
[14:31] <Nirodh> mibbot: m to unmute
[14:31] <Ruge> actually ill try tmrw
[14:31] <Ruge> thanks for your help all
[14:31] <mibbot> Nirodh: alsamixer gives me: alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory
[14:32] <emorris> in my grub boot menu, it has Debian blah blah kernel instead of Ubuntu, is there any way to change it back? Obviously i could just change it in menu.lst, but it would put it back after each kernel upgrade
[14:32] <Nirodh> mibbot: Whoops sorry, I meant alsamixer not alsa-mixer
[14:33] <adam7> mibbot: try sudo alsamixer
[14:33] <adam7> mibbot: if that works, you probably need to add yourself to the audio group
[14:33] <chazco> Hi... just to confirm - is it safe to move a laptop which is in Ubuntu suspend mode?
[14:33] <mibbot> adam7: thanks, yes, sudo alsamixer works
[14:33] <jimcooncat> anyone know how to deal with changing ssh host keys simply? I'm testing remote installations and the SOMETHING NASTY warning keeps stalling me until I remove the bad key.
[14:33] <adam7> chazco: move? like pick up and take somewhere else? should be...
[14:34] <slinx> it installed everything then said unable to install some archives?
[14:34] <chazco> adam7 - Put into into a case and take it somewhere else... i imagine the HDD is switched off?
[14:34] <Pretto> anyone know if wubi replaces the bootloader?
[14:34] <slinx> unable to fetch*
[14:34] <vikkio> someone know how to put the network manager in the up panel??
[14:34] <adam7> chazco: put your ear next to it -- if you don't hear anything, it's off. But in general, suspend should shut down the HDD
[14:35] <jimcooncat> instead of dumping me out to edit known_hosts manually, I want to just say Yes to change the key
[14:35] <vikkio> someone know how to put the network manager in the up panel??
[14:35] <chazco> heh, the low-tech solution :) Thanks
[14:35] <Sact> vikkio: Right click the panel > add to panel
[14:35] <vikkio> is not there
[14:35] <adam7> chazco: that's how I always check :D
[14:35] <nootrope> any idea when the ubuntu repository will update django to 1.0?
[14:35] <mibbot> adam7: any ideas how to add to group from command line
[14:35] <unclemike> i had truble with metacity dying..now i got it working ..but themes arent working right?
[14:35] <vikkio> Sact: is not there the applet network manager
[14:36] <Sact> vikkio: Do you not mean network monitor? That should be there
[14:36] <vikkio> sact: yes...but isnt the same
[14:36] <adam7> mibbot: sudo vim /etc/group (probably not recommended) or use usermod
[14:36] <mmo|> Is the BBC content in totem ONLY audio? Or are there any videos?
[14:37] <Gnea> mibbot: sudo vigr
[14:37] <mmo|> I only get audio when I try any of it
[14:37] <vikkio> Sact: do you have msn?? i send you two screenshoot
[14:37] <Sact> vikkio: You could upload them to www.petaimg.com
[14:37] <vikkio> Sact: can we talk in pvt i hate this chat
[14:38] <Sact> vikkio: Sure
[14:38] <JonathanEllis> Sorry to ask the question again. I had to go away so couldnt see if there had been a response. ﻿If I am dual booting with winxp, is there any advantage in having a separate partition for /boot? I gather if I put another linux distro on then they shouldnt share /boot if that contains the kernel. So I guess a separate partition for GRUB which I make bootable would be the best bet and leave /boot on the same partition as /? Or would it be better to cr
[14:38] <adam7> JonathanEllis: /boot is where the grub configuration file lives, and where the init images (not the right word) live
[14:39] <unclemike> hello ! anyone out there...been trying to fix same problem sence last night
[14:39] <JonathanEllis> adam7: Yes I saw that answer, thanks. Hence my next question
[14:39] <James_UK> looking for a grub guru to help me boot windows xp from grub please... XP installed on SATA, Grub and Ubuntu on IDE2 Slave
[14:39] <adam7> JonathanEllis: oops, sorry, I can't read :)
[14:39] <serengeti> nootrope, django's already at 1.0 in intrepid
[14:39] <vikkio> Sact: answer me in pvt
[14:40] <adam7> JonathanEllis: one advantage is that /boot/grub/menu.lst will be shared among all distros
[14:40] <slacker_nl> does anyone know if it is possible to restrict a user so he can only access the pc via the console and not via ssh?
[14:41] <orly_owl> Is there a GIMPShop package for hardy somewhere?
[14:41] <slacker_nl> if so, how would one do this?
[14:41] <JonathanEllis> adam7: Thanks. But wouldnt it be a bad thing for the kernels to be shared?
[14:41] <Gnea> slacker_nl: turn off or remove ssh-server
[14:41] <slacker_nl> Gnea: haha, not an option
[14:41] <unclemike> !metacity
[14:41] <adam7> JonathanEllis: I *think* (I'm by no means an expert) that each distro has a different kernel naming scheme
[14:42] <orly_owl> !GIMPShop
[14:42] <adam7> slacker_nl: poke around in /etc/ssh
[14:42] <slacker_nl> adam7: k
[14:42] <Vicky95> hi, i need a subseven for ubuntu but dont find in synantic
[14:42] <elefante_branco> The installer encountered an error copying files to the hard disk:
[14:42] <elefante_branco> [Errno 5] Input/output error
[14:42] <elefante_branco> This particular error is often due to a faulty CD/DVD disk or drive,
[14:42] <elefante_branco>  or a faulty hard disk. It may help to clean the CD/DVD, to burn the CD/DVD
[14:42] <elefante_branco>  at a lower speed, to clean the CD/DVD drive lens (cleaning kits are often
[14:42] <elefante_branco>  available from electronics suppliers), to check whether the hard disk is
[14:42] <FloodBot3> elefante_branco: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:42] <sinan> how can i get the pci id of a device installed on my pc ?
[14:43] <James_UK> can anyone help with Dual booting XP please. XP installed on SATA, Ubuntu 8.10 installed on IDE2 Slave
[14:43] <Yuretsz> How can I make QT apps to looks native in Gnome?
[14:43] <Vicky95> where download a subseven for ubuntu hardy ??
[14:43] <unclemike> 1388 users and not no help
[14:43] <Gnea> !dualboot | James_UK
[14:44] <Gnea> !patience | unclemike
[14:44] <Yimpolo> unclemike: What's the problem? I just logged on
[14:44] <abortd> it looks like gdesklets is bulky anyone have any thoughts on performance after installed or?
[14:44] <nootrope> serengeti, thanks!
[14:44] <kri> hi i have some dependency problems when trying to install transmission (i need libgtk2.0-0 and that needs libcups2 but i have libcupsys2). If i sudp apt-get remove libcupsys2 many programs dpending on that will be broken, what would i do?
[14:44] <James_UK> Gnea i've been there and its still not any help to me :/ Grub doesnt seem to be able to boot XP
[14:44] <slowz> Vicky95, There is no "subseven" for linux period
[14:45] <unclemike> Yimpolo, last night metacity died got that fixed....now my themes work mhalf A** panel wont theme and menu's wont theme
[14:45] <Jethro1> good morning folks, anyone around to help a newb?
[14:45] <abortd> OMG where do i get sub7 for linux?!
[14:45] <slacker_nl> adam7: thnx, sshd_config DenyUsers directive
[14:45] <abortd> how about netbus or BO!\
[14:46] <nootrope> what's the least traumatic way to upgrade from Heron to Intrepid?
[14:46] <bombshelter13> Hey, does anyone know what I have to do to completely remove GFVS from my Ubuntu system without destroying Nautilus?
[14:46] <abortd> Jethro1: ask your question
[14:46] <Vicky95> where download a subseven for ubuntu hardy plz, i need
[14:46] <bazhang> Vicky95, what is subseven
[14:46] <Jethro1> i have an ATI radeon 7000 with support for multiple monitors, how can i get the second monitor working?
[14:46] <bombshelter13> Nautilus appears to depend on GVFS, which doesn't seem to make sense... I'm willing to compile things myself, I just neeed to know what.
[14:46] <prince_j1mmys> Vicky95: this is the ubuntu help channel. you don't need "subseven"
[14:46] <James_UK> Subseven is a script kiddy hacking tool
[14:47] <abortd> bazhang: lol a windows script kiddy tool
[14:47] <Gnea> James_UK: well that doesn't tell me anything. what *have* you tried so far, exactly?
[14:47] <prince_j1mmys> Vicky95: so go away.
[14:47] <bazhang> Vicky95, not here
[14:47] <tarelerulz> I have been using Abobe flash player  alot .  every cool chat room program and anything cool on the net use it ,but it ways runs up my cpu or crash or something not good.  Is there any tutorial how to to get it working right.
[14:47] <bazhang> abortd, thanks
[14:47] <Vicky95> ok
[14:47] <Thomsen> Having sound problems here, wine and the testsound in the sound panel are very crappy/noisy, also the sounds cut after 1/2 secs
[14:47] <Thomsen> other sounds work fine :/
[14:47] <JonathanEllis> Adam7: OK. That would make sense. In that case I guess I should make a boot partition. Although http://preview.tinyurl.com/6a8rvy says                       "A Separate /boot partition is not very good for people who want to boot more than one Linux operating system because iit is tricky to get more than one Linux to share the same Separate /boot partition peacefully. For that, you need a 'Dedicated GRUB Partition', which contains only GRUB files and
[14:47] <Thomsen> alsa/oss/pulse, it doesn't matter, it stays bad
[14:47] <Gnea> James_UK: please keep the chat to the channel
[14:47] <abortd> np
[14:47] <Gnea> !pm | James_UK
[14:48] <lianimator> compile musictracker for pidgin says xmms2 is required to build xmms2 support. can I build without xmms2 support? also it says PCRE library is required. How do I install that?
[14:48] <Jethro1> did see my question?
[14:48] <Carkus> does anyone know of an easy way to completely reinstall all the sound modules, etc? i think ive broken alsa, and now i cant get it working again..
[14:48] <James_UK> i have XP installed on SATA, ubuntu and grub installed on IDE2Slave.... no matter what (hd1,0) etc i try windows will not boot from grub
[14:49] <FrancisN> I know this isn't strictly an Ubuntu problem, but does anyone know how to use, say, dd to repair a USB flash drive?  I managed to mess it up so badly it can't read the partition table anymore
[14:49] <unclemike> that nice the one person that goes to help.....after 12 hrs..quits
[14:49] <Gnea> FrancisN: you might get some good results with sfdisk
[14:49] <slowz> lianimator, Ive never complied pidgin but you can have a look at ./configure --help and see if there is a flag to disable xmms2 support
[14:50] <Jethro1> i have an ATI radeon 7000 and with windows i had multiple monitors but after the switch i cant get ny secondary monitor to work, anyone know how to get multi monitor support with ubuntu??
[14:50] <yyyyyy> okay, does anyone has problem using compiz + google earth in ubuntu 8.10???
[14:50] <Gnea> unclemike: so what's your problem?
[14:50] <bombshelter13> Anyone know where I can get a packaged NON-GFVS enabled version of Nautilus for Ubuntu Hardy?
[14:50] <FrancisN> Gnea: What exactly would I do?  I just want to erase everything on the drive, hopefully make it usable again
[14:51] <yyyyyy> everytime when my compiz is on, google earth program seems to be flickering...
[14:51] <FrancisN> I'm looking through the man page, but it doesn't seemt o have what I need
[14:51] <unclemike> Gnea, metacity died last night got it fixed..now my themes wont theme the panel and menu
[14:51] <Gnea> unclemike: just the themes aren't showing up? did you do a distro upgrade? what changed?
[14:51] <Gnea> unclemike: i mean, what changed prior to metacity croaking?
[14:51] <rbd__> hey guys, what happened to libxml-dev in 8.10?
[14:51] <unclemike> Gnea, nothing
[14:52] <RizR> !dualhead |Jethro1
[14:52] <jangli> jimcooncat: even 50s sleep didn't work... very strange. maybe a permissions problem? when /etc/rc2.d/S92bacula-dir is started at boot, what user is it running? when i start it manually, I user "sudo /etc/rc2.d/S92bacula-dir start", so root user
[14:52] <rbd__> and is there a page that shows the new and depreaciated packages from 8.04->8.10?
[14:52] <Gnea> FrancisN: oh, you can dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/device_name_of_your_usb
[14:52] <Gnea> FrancisN: make sure to sudo that
[14:52] <FrancisN> Gnea: I think I've found my problem.  sfdisk just crashes whenever I try to do something, saying that my partitions extend past the physical end of the drive
[14:52] <Jethro1> thanks so much bot
[14:53] <Gnea> unclemike: well, not 'nothing' ever causes something like that to happen - something happened and it probably happened behind the scenes
[14:53] <adam7> JonathanEllis: Maybe that would work better for what you want
[14:53] <unclemike> Gnea, i upgrade from 7.04 to 7.10 to 8.04 to 8.10
[14:53] <hellboy3> does any one know how to use gtkpod to put videos on my ipod
[14:53] <Gnea> unclemike: under what timeframe?
[14:53] <syock> I want to use a virtual desktop on a Linux OS without admin rights. What are the possible options? I saw on Wikipedia that you don't need root to use QEMU.
[14:53] <Jethro1> !xinerama
[14:54] <unclemike> Gnea, all sence yesterday..sence 8.04 and 8.10 cd's wouldent install
[14:54] <Gnea> !sudo | syock
[14:54] <jimcooncat> jangli: like I said, I'm not familiar with your software. Most daemons start as root and drop priviledges. Bacula maybe not? ps probably has a flag to find out which user it's running as.
[14:54] <JonathanEllis> ﻿!DualHead
[14:54] <syock> Gnea: I don't have admin rights. I can't sudo
[14:54] <Gnea> unclemike: i see. have you tried making a new user account for the 8.10? does metacity croak there too?
[14:54] <jangli> jimcooncat: flag?
[14:54] <Whitor> Hi. I'm having a weird problem. After installing Intrepid I can only connect to one wireless access point. (coincidentally or not, its the one I was connected to while upgrading) I have Xirrus Wi-Fi monitor installes ... and I can 'see' other networks ... my computer just won't connect to them.  My settings are identicle (except for ssid and wep key) so I am fairly certain its not a settings issue. any ideas ?
[14:55] <JonathanEllis> Adam7: Sorry to repeat part of the question, but: ﻿My /boot directory is 105MB so would a 200MB partition for /boot allow enough room for expansion? How big should the GRUB partition be?
[14:55] <Whitor> installed*
[14:55] <unclemike> Gnea, 8.10 was when metacity died
[14:55] <jimcooncat> jangli: flag == command line option. I meant anyway
[14:55] <Gnea> unclemike: i understand. try making a new account, login with it, and see if metacity is still being a punk
[14:56] <Xeph> Hi there, i'm trying to backup some DVDs i filmed at vacation, using k9copy. Ripping and shrinking works fine, but there's no *.iso after all. Does anyone have an idea how to solve that?
[14:56] <AbortD> does intrepid use a different partitioning tool than gparted or do you just have to apt-get it
[14:56] <AbortD> well i know you have to apt-get it
[14:57] <bazhang> unclemike, what theme
[14:57] <FrancisN> Gnea: New problem, I can't do anything with the drive, sfdisk crashes saying unrecognized partition table
[14:57] <syock> Do you need to be root to use QEMU in the first place?
[14:57] <FrancisN> How would I make a new partition table?
[14:57] <Gnea> bazhang: i'm guessing that his local info from the older version is interferring with the newer version - he did hop 4 distro versions in 1 day
[14:58] <RizR> JonathanEllis: 105??? that's the biggest I've heard it to be :-) In my opinion 200M should be fine. others?
[14:58] <jimcooncat> jangli: "sudo ps -Al | grep bacula" should show you the UID in the third column
[14:58] <Gnea> FrancisN: did you do the dd thing?
[14:58] <bazhang> Gnea, agreed; just wanted to see if it worked here
[14:58] <FrancisN> yeah, I did the dd thing, it finished
[14:58] <FrancisN> Gnea: now it's telling me there's no partition table whenever I try to do something with it
[14:58] <Gnea> FrancisN: okay, forget sfdisk then. use fdisk on it and create a partition
[14:58] <unclemike> bazhang, deepgreen...over glossed...blue-joy
[14:59] <FrancisN> Gnea: I've figured out how to make one, but what sort of table should I make? msdos, aix, etc.?
[14:59] <Gnea> FrancisN: right, that's what dd did too - totally zero'd out the drive
[14:59] <JonathanEllis> ﻿RizR: And how big should the grub partition be? I will make that the bootable partition so it will just have the MBR and the grub executable files
[14:59] <alexander>  ~pastebin
[14:59] <rayb0t> anybody here play quake wars? i'm having network issues with it :(
[14:59] <Gnea> FrancisN: how big is it?
[15:00] <FrancisN> Gnea: 2gb flash
[15:00] <RizR> JonathanEllis: 200M is big enough.
[15:00] <Gnea> FrancisN: i'd stick with a fat32 format then - do you have qparted installed?
[15:00] <disposable> i have downloaded an intrepid iso. how do i put it on a usb drive so that it's installable from there? (my laptop does not have a cd drive, and i don't have windows) simply point me at a howto or something please.
[15:01] <AbortD> i swear gparted is acting stupid
[15:01] <FrancisN> I'm planning on using fat32, but it's not asking me for partition type, it's asking me for partition *table* type
[15:01] <bazhang> !usb | disposable
[15:01] <FrancisN> Gnea: nevermind, I'll just use msdos partition table type, and see what happens.
[15:01] <FrancisN> Thanks for the help
[15:01] <bazhang> disposable, also check out unetbootin
[15:01] <Gnea> FrancisN: ah ok - try 6 fat16 for the partition type :)
[15:01] <AbortD> bazhang: do you have any idea why gparted is graying out all the functions and not letting me create a partition?
[15:02] <FrancisN> Gnea: Well, I have to use fat32, I'm trying to make a ubuntu bootable usb
[15:02] <FrancisN> Thanks!
[15:02] <bazhang> AbortD, are you trying to edit a mounted partition?
[15:02] <RizR> AbortD: permissions? did you run it like sudo gparted?
[15:02] <joaopinto> actually, gksudo gparted
[15:02] <AbortD> RizR: yes
[15:02] <AbortD> im trying to edit and add partitions bazhang
[15:03] <bazhang> AbortD, you didnt answer my question though
[15:03] <AbortD> well no
[15:03] <AbortD> not first but if i dont edit the partition to allow free space would it blank out the new partition button?
[15:03] <jimcooncat> Why does "StrictHostKeyChecking ask" not work in /etc/ssh/ssh_config?
[15:03] <bazhang> AbortD, use the livecd or the gparted livecd
[15:04] <atarinox> Can anybody tell me...I'm trying to find some themes for Intrepid on gnome-look.org. How do I tell what category of theme would work? GTK, GDM, Compiz? I know Intrepid has Compiz installed by default, but are those the only themes I can choose from?
[15:04] <kamil> hi guys
[15:04] <JonathanEllis> ﻿/msg NickServ help commands
[15:04] <unclemike> unclemike, they still dont work
[15:04] <AbortD> bazhang: my cdrom no longer wants to open :P
[15:04] <adam7> JonathanEllis: I'm not exactly sure, to be honest. I need to go though, but I'm sure someone else here knows.
[15:04] <JonathanEllis> adam7: Thanks
[15:05] <hellboy3> are there any softwares like imovie for ubuntu
[15:05] <Gnea> unclemike: any luck?
[15:05] <jangli> jimcooncat: hmmm.... i'll check monit tonight at home I think... thx for your help
[15:05] <ShdwShinobi> Hi! My audio stops working after about a day and I can't get it to come back without a restart. Does anyone know how I can fix this?
[15:05] <unclemike> Gnea, nope
[15:05] <raheem> !video
[15:05] <JonathanEllis> ﻿Rizr: 200M for Grub and 200M for /boot?
[15:05] <Gnea> unclemike: what about changing sessions?
[15:05] <hellboy3> are there any softwares like imovie or like  movie maker  for ubuntu
[15:06] <pronoy> can anyone guide me how to get a daemon icon for a good media player like totem or rythmbox ???
[15:06] <jimcooncat> jangli -- no problem. Should be easy for you to set up just for this, but you might get carried away
[15:06] <newbie> ciao
[15:06] <TheBlasphemer> Is there a way to start a program from SSH (seeing the console output there), but having the windows open on the desktop ?
[15:07] <RizR> AbordD: what does eject command says
[15:07] <unclemike> Gnea, whats that going to do...im already in the new user
[15:07] <rrittenhouse> Can you share an ssh key between two different machines like I can a PGP key? I'm guessing no.
[15:07] <ikonia> rrittenhouse sure
[15:07] <ikonia> RizR: I use one key to access 200+ machines
[15:07] <JonathanEllis> ﻿/msg NickServ help
[15:07] <RizR> JonathanEllis: grub is usually very small. few MB should be more than enough. you don't usually need a separate partitiion for it. just stick it in /boot
[15:08] <pronoy> can anyone guide me how to get a daemon icon for a good media player like totem or rythmbox ???
[15:08] <rrittenhouse> ikonia: I have a laptop with an ssh key that I want to access different servers with but without generating another key I wondered if on my Desktop I would have to generate another ssh key to get into the same servers
[15:08] <disposable> bazhang: thank you
[15:08] <bazhang> disposable, your welcome
[15:08] <ikonia> RizR: no, just put your public key on as many servers as you want, as long as you keep the private key your fine
[15:08] <ikonia> rrittenhouse no, just put your public key on as many servers as
[15:08] <ikonia> you want, as long as you keep the private key your fine
[15:09] <BulBulRed> i run a ssh server at home right now
[15:09] <rrittenhouse> ikonia: Ok. Thx
[15:09] <jderrick> Regarding Intrepid, NetworkManager is now supposed to start before you login to Gnome, yet my default install does not behave this way. I have to login before my static IP is setup. Is there something I need to do for it to start at the login screen other than manually edit /etc/network/interfaces ?
[15:09] <JonathanEllis> rizr: Thanks. Its just that http://preview.tinyurl.com/6a8rvy seems to recommend a separate partition for grub. I am a bit confused whyit says a /boot partition might not be a good idea
[15:09] <BulBulRed> i work with three keys
[15:09] <BulBulRed> and a crontab script
[15:09] <JonathanEllis> adam7: Thanks for all your help
[15:09] <BulBulRed> so i can shedule when someone has access
[15:09] <syock> Is there a virtual machine that you can run as guest user? One that you can download, unpack and run
[15:09] <BulBulRed> for instance my work pc doesnt need access during the night, because i am not there...
[15:10] <ikonia> BulBulRed do you have a question ?
[15:10] <BulBulRed> and i do encourage working with a passphrase
[15:10] <BulBulRed> no ikonia, sorry
[15:10] <BulBulRed> i know: other channels for that
[15:12] <RizR> JonathanEllis: because /boot (without grub) is where kernel images and init files live. if you share it among different distros it'll contan kernels from all of them.
[15:12] <RizR> JonathanEllis: seems a big messy.
[15:13] <spree> Something odd is going on when I first start the computer: The GUI for the login screen is off-center on the monitor by about 2 inches. If I auto-adjust my monitor, the video centers itself. What should I do? NVidia 6100 amd64 Intrepid
[15:13] <JonathanEllis> rizr: So I am looking for a sensible place for grub to live because at the moment its in my winxp partition which I dont feel comfortable with. Then someone else recommended having a separate partition for /boot for resilience
[15:14] <ikonia> JonathanEllis grub lices ont he mbr
[15:14] <ikonia> lives
[15:14] <akahige> got a question about samba permissions... I had a shared directory on my desktop that is no longer shared, and won't let me as a user re-share it.  I had moved /var onto a different partition, and everything seems to be working, but then I discovered this... can anyone help me troubleshoot...?
[15:15] <spree> akahige: #samba
[15:15] <RizR> JonathanEllis: sorry. someone else might be able to help.
[15:15] <akahige> spree: thanks.  I'm wondering if there aren't probs with my having copied /var.  thoughts on that?
[15:16] <JonathanEllis> ikonia: So if I just put the MBR on the dedicated /boot partition then I am done, yes?
[15:16] <ikonia> JonathanEllis the mbr is the master boot record - it's on the boot sector of the disk, it's nothing to do with partitions or file systems
[15:16] <qlaiaqu> are there have chinese?
[15:16] <ikonia> !cn > qlaiaqu
[15:17] <kkady32> hello,who cann help me about webcam vimicro zc0303 -use gspca driver,pls mess privat me
[15:17] <komputes> does ubuntu have a USB protocol analyzer in its repositories?
[15:17] <atax> Hi all, where do i change my IP-Address / Gateway in Ubuntu 8.10?
[15:18] <ikonia> kkady32 I'm sure someone will respond in channel
[15:18] <ikonia> atax: open the networking configuration tool from system -> preferences
[15:18] <ferronica> how to connect remote using internat IP address
[15:18] <spree> akahige: i don't know about samba, ask #samba
[15:18] <JonathanEllis> ikonia: Now I am confused. My winxp partition is labelled with a boot flag in GParted
[15:18] <komputes> atax: you click on the network manager icon, two computers in the top right of the panel
[15:18] <babo> Has anyone else had problems using dyndns as a dynamic DNS service. Mine works on/off ...
[15:18] <ikonia> JonathanEllis that doesn't matter
[15:18] <ikonia> ignore the flags
[15:18] <ikonia> JonathanEllis: ignroe teh flags
[15:18] <komputes> atax: sorry, right click > edit connections
[15:18] <n8tuser> JonathanEllis-> http://users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/p15.htm  a very good guide for you
[15:19] <ikonia> babo that service isnothing to do with ubuntu
[15:19] <kkady32> ikonia:ok
[15:19] <zhaozhou> atax, komputes, there not two computers if you're using wireless
[15:19] <kkady32> hello,who cann help me about webcam vimicro zc0303 -use gspca driver?that work in 8.04 but not in 8.01
[15:19] <kkady32> 8.10
[15:19] <komputes> zhaozhou: i'm afraid i don't understand
[15:20] <atax> komputes, ikonia : I made change there before, i change from DHCP to static-ip adresses, .. my mashine simply ignores what i enter in there! Any idea?
[15:20] <atax> changes
[15:20] <chadeldridge> When i start I am only getting a desktop and no login screen .. please help
[15:20] <ikonia> atax how do you know your machine ignores what you enter there ?
[15:20] <qlaiaqu> thanks for you message
[15:20] <zhaozhou> komputes, if you're using wireless, and are not connected via a TP network cable, then the icon changes. (:
[15:20] <komputes> zhaozhou: yes, the icon changes
[15:21] <spree> atarinox: assuming it's the first network card, (remove []'s): sudo ifconfig eth0 inet [ipaddress] netmask [subnet]
[15:21] <atax> ikonia, komputes I try to go over a new gateway to the internet, and via tracepath i can see that the old gateway is still beeing used!
[15:21] <JonathanEllis> ikonia and ﻿n8tuser: Thanks
[15:21] <chadeldridge> When i start I am only getting a desktop and no login screen .. please help
[15:21] <komputes> atax: i think you may need to set other parameters like DNS servers
[15:21] <ikonia> atax a gateway you'll have to re-run /etc/init.d/networking stop/start
[15:22] <spree> atarinox then to set your gateway type sudo route add default gw [ip adress] eth0
[15:22] <ikonia> Vinceman your nick is not Vinceman - thats owned by someone else, pelase stop trying to use it
[15:22] <FWP-> yo
[15:22] <komputes> atax: not just address, mask, gateway
[15:22] <chr12is05> hi all
[15:23] <spree> atax: then type sudo /etc/init.d/networking stop and sudo /etc/init.d/networking start
[15:23] <Vinceman> ikonia?
[15:23] <atax> komputes, ikonia : I almosst certain I did a /networking restart but to be on the safe side ill try again
[15:23] <komputes> atax: a good way to test this, if you type 64.233.187.99 in firefox's address bar, do you get google?
[15:23] <Vinceman> that was me! it was always me!
[15:23] <atax> spree, : will do, thx
[15:23] <spree> atax: also to set your DNS servers edit /etc/resolv.conf
[15:23] <ikonia> Vinceman: you keep changing nick between Vinceman and guest**** so either identify to sort your nick out, or stop using it
[15:23] <chr12is05> anyone having problems connecting to wep encrypted wireless n/w on hardy?
[15:23] <Vinceman> I am identified now
[15:23] <komputes> spree: atax: or set them in NetworkManager
[15:24] <atax> komputes, I know, thx
[15:24] <noiz> gnubien> noiz: ok, ask in #ubuntu if this kernel: 2.6.25-2-386   is the kernel version that ubuntu 8.10 uses
[15:24] <spree> komputes there you go, assuming he's not using ubuntu server addition without a GUI
[15:24] <noiz> somone answere that? :D
[15:24] <ikonia> noiz it's not
[15:24] <noiz> oh god
[15:24] <noiz> nowonder it not playng any sound -.-
[15:25] <Dr_willis> Linux cowbuntu 2.6.27-7-generic #1
[15:25] <noiz> brb going to the alsa channel
[15:25] <komputes> spree: sorry, i might have missed the sentence where he said that
[15:25] <IcyPolecat> Mac address ranges and bridged interfaces across cards from different vendors. Are the any guidelines as to how to generate the address or do you think it safe to just randomly generate one
[15:25] <noiz> gnubien> noiz: ok, ask in #ubuntu how to upgrade your kernel to the ubuntu 8.10 kernel version
[15:26] <ikonia> noiz please show me "lsb_release -a"
[15:26] <spree> atax: anyway here's some useful docs for you http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-debian-ubutnu-set-default-gateway-ipaddress/
[15:26] <noiz> wich part of it ikonia?
[15:26] <ikonia> noiz the version
[15:26] <kri> noone in #transmission is willing to tell me how to install transmisison 1.3.4 and if i apt-get with the respositories 'deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/bortis/ubuntu hardy main' and 'deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/bortis/ubuntu hardy main' it installs 1.4 ... anyone?
[15:27] <atax> spree, : thanks, is that already for ubuntu 810, or the version before that?
[15:27] <chadeldridge> Can someone please help me .. i have no login prompt in X
[15:27] <spree> atax: it works in a lot of different types of linux
[15:27] <noiz> noiz@nOiz1337box:~$ uname -r
[15:27] <noiz> 2.6.25-2-386
[15:27] <noiz> this?
[15:27] <FloodBot3> noiz: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:27] <ikonia> noiz no - did I say uname -r ?
[15:27] <noiz> oh a
[15:27] <ikonia> noiz: I asked for the output of lsb_release -a
[15:27] <DanielK00000> Hi
[15:28] <noiz> No LSB modules are available.
[15:28] <noiz> that dosnt sound good :O
[15:28] <ikonia> noiz your not using ubuntu
[15:28] <noiz> yes i am LOL!!!
[15:28] <noiz> Description:	Ubuntu 8.10
[15:28] <ikonia> noiz cat /etc/lsb_release
[15:28] <noiz> cat: /etc/lsb_release: No such file or directory
[15:28] <noiz> i have a ubuntu cd -.-
[15:29] <sharperguy> Anyone know a decent tool for drawing entity/relationship diagrams?
[15:29] <aba-> dia
[15:29] <DanielK00000> Something is up with my SD memory card for my camera. It was working fine then all of a sudden it stopped working in my Kodak camera. I tried it in other brands of camera and it worked fine, but I tried it in the same brand camera, Kodak, and none of them read the card. Anyone have this problem before?
[15:29] <raheem> interesting
[15:29] <noiz> lol so ikonia whats up whith this -.-
[15:29] <ikonia> do sudo apt-get update
[15:30] <noiz> it was alll working SOOO well when i had 8.04 LTS
[15:30] <narcoclepsy> the 8.1 update fixed one of my main gripes about Ubuntu I am so pleased :-)
[15:30] <yedday> hey all
[15:30] <noiz> It did bad to my sound :P
[15:30] <ikonia> noiz: stop talking randomly and listen to what people are asking you to do to help resolve this
[15:31] <noiz> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[15:31] <noiz> i lold
[15:31] <ikonia> noiz sudo apt-get update
[15:31] <yedday> tell me guys, why is it so hard to make an application, that can read AND append notes to pdf files? -> scribus freezes all the time, pdfedit is totally userunfriendly, pdf x-change view over wine has issues in saving the files...
[15:31] <raheem> !attitude
[15:31] <noiz> oooh
[15:31] <noiz> doing em now :D
[15:31] <noiz> and its done :P
[15:31] <spree> atax: by the way i found this guide indespinsible, particularly chapters 2-4 http://www.linuxhomenetworking.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page
[15:31] <churl> i finally turned off "save last session" and now firefox wont load pages/ip's/bookmarks/history  it's just a white page   on a related note, ktorrent stopped working as well
[15:31] <ikonia> noiz sudo apt-get upgrade
[15:32]  * yedday wishes an application that can read AND append notes/highlight sections to a pdf file!
[15:32] <noiz> oh
[15:32] <Dr_willis> yedday,  that foxit pdf viewer - had some editor  software from the company also.  not sure if that has a linux port like the reader does...
[15:33] <noiz> ikonia possible that it will help my problems out?
[15:33] <James_UK> i have XP installed on SATA, ubuntu and grub installed on IDE2Slave.... no matter what (hd1,0) etc i try windows will not boot from grub, can anyone help?
[15:33] <ikonia> noiz I don't know - that will bring you up to date
[15:33] <raheem> James_UK: should'nt it be sda
[15:34] <yedday> Dr_willis: no wine programs anymore for me
[15:34] <Dr_willis> raheem,  not in grub speak
[15:34] <raheem> oh, i c
[15:34] <noiz> ldconfig deferred processing now taking place
[15:34] <narcoclepsy> noiz: it fixed my sound??
[15:34] <noiz> and it ended
[15:34] <noiz> wait tryng
[15:34] <Dr_willis> yedday,  foxit reader has a native linux reader.. it MIGHT have a native linux editor also
[15:34] <narcoclepsy> now i can play sound asynchronously from more than one program at a time through the same sound card
[15:34] <James_UK> grub makes no distinction between sda and hda :/ this is where i get confused
[15:34] <noiz>  nope when i press "test" it still says a error
[15:34] <narcoclepsy> noiz: but it worked before?
[15:35] <Dr_willis> James_UK,   grub enumerates drives differently..  then linux does.. it also starts counting at 0, you did try hd0,0 ?
[15:35] <noiz> when i had 8.04 LTS yes
[15:35] <ikonia> noiz you will need to reboot after the updates
[15:35] <noiz> at 8.10 NO
[15:35] <yedday> Dr_willis: Foxit PDF Editor, which allows you to modify content of a PDF file, is non-free.
[15:35] <spree> James_UK post your /boot/grub/grub.conf to pastebin.com so we can read it
[15:35] <narcoclepsy> check this out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting#head-882ddc981673f44656e4f791858e9a586a007705
[15:35] <Dr_willis> yedday,  yep.. thats rigth.
[15:35] <narcoclepsy> maybe it will help
[15:35] <noiz> k il brb in few minutes dan
[15:35] <ikonia> noiz: you should have a new kernel
[15:35] <Dr_willis> yedday,  but did it have a linux port?
[15:35] <narcoclepsy> oh if you didn't reboot.. yeah. try that first
[15:35] <spree> James_UK post your /boot/grub/menu.lst to pastebin.com so we can read it, sorry grub.conf is redhat
[15:35] <yedday> Dr_willis: that doesn't matter if it's non-free
[15:36] <Dr_willis> yedday,  guess ya dont need it that badly then.
[15:36] <James_UK> Dr_willis: i tried hd0,0 ...
[15:36] <James_UK> spree: just loading it now
[15:37] <churl> HELP :) i finally turned off "save last session" and now firefox wont load pages/ip's/bookmarks/history  it's just a white page   on a related note, ktorrent stopped working as well
[15:37] <syock> Dr_willis: I thought Foxit for Linux is no longer supported?
[15:37] <dfgas> what is it called when people take a picture behind their monitor then put it as their background so it looks like you are looking right through your monitor?
[15:37] <Dr_willis> syock,  no idea.. i only reacently discoverd it had a linux version..  just my luck if its dead.
[15:37] <James_UK> spree: http://pastebin.com/d61ffdff3
[15:37] <Gnea> dfgas: illusion?
[15:38] <yedday> Dr_willis: no, but c'mon, that would be very neat, if one could edit pdf files! There must be a huge amount of people that would be VERY lucky about it
[15:38] <Dr_willis> syock,  it has a preview version it seems.. No mention of it..
[15:38] <syock> Dr_willis: Hmm, it says "tested on Fedora 4 and SuSE Linux 10.0" that's quite recent. Probably 2006
[15:38] <Dr_willis> yedday,  the windows version of their editor is 30 day demoware I think.. :) if it worked in wine... well...
[15:38] <Mac40DO> Hi! I have a problem with cups: I have to wait a few minutes after printing, before cups will print again. The only way to force cups to print immediatly again is to diconnect and reconnect the usb-cable of the printer.
[15:39] <Dr_willis> syock,  ive only recently been using it under windows.   It would be nice to hafe some alternatives in linux. :(
[15:39] <syock> yedday: what have you tried so far? How about PDFedit?
[15:39] <yedday> as said: I only get problems with wine. why not just have it in kpdf or xpdf?
[15:39] <yedday> syock: tried: pdfedif, scribus, xchange viewer
[15:40] <syock> yedday: xournal and jarnal?
[15:40] <spree> James_UK: Well you're saying that Windows XP resides on the third hard drive, second partition
[15:40] <dfgas> transparent desktops  :D found it
[15:40] <syock> jarnal's quite unstable for me though
[15:40] <yedday> syock: no, xournal: I'll give that one a try then
[15:40] <James_UK> spree: well... i have been changing them from 0,0 to 1,0 to see if i can get it to boot... 2,1 was just the last place i left it saved
[15:41] <yedday> rest is all buggy and freezing all the time
[15:41] <spree> James_UK: where's it actually located
[15:41] <grobda24> Hello. I have problems with losing windows that no longer appear on the task bar but do in task manager. I'm using Compiz and Emerald.
[15:41] <noiz> k
[15:41] <noiz> it didnt help :(
[15:41] <spree> James_UK: this is computer arithmetic so 0 is 1, 1 is 2, etc
[15:41] <noiz> tho it did a driver check after the reboot
[15:42] <syock> yedday: not that I'm recommending those 2, as they are more geared towards tablet PCs
[15:42] <syock> yedday: but do check out
[15:42] <Bupuntu> hi all
[15:42] <noiz> did the admin who helped me before went away?
[15:42] <James_UK> spree: XP is on the one and only SATA drive.... Ubuntu is on IDE2 Slave, but i also have another 2 IDE drives (storage only) plus one SCSI (storage) I just cant seem to locate the SATA to boot XP
[15:42] <yedday> syock...
[15:42] <Bupuntu> is there anyone who could help me with the sources of the login screen?
[15:42] <noiz> Whers the helper who tryed to help me before
[15:43] <amerinese> what command can i use to check what DNS servers i'm using?
[15:43] <James_UK> spree: the only way i can get into XP is to change the boot order of my bios so that the SATA is first
[15:43] <raheem> noiz: !attitude
[15:43] <noiz> God i never gona get my sounds and other devized
[15:43] <spree> James_UK: eliminating a more base-level problem, are you sure the HD is being detected by the BIOS?
[15:43] <Yuji1> How do I remove system accounts such as "sync" etc?
[15:43] <Dr_willis> James_UK,  I cheated once and made a grub boot entry for every drive on the system then tried them all.. :) but I think the grub command line has a 'tab completion' feature that can show you waht disks it sees. and the proper name/# for them
[15:43] <syock> yedday: I tried just now. Doesn't quite make the cut. You can't save directly; you had to export the file again as PDF
[15:43] <spree> James_UK: oh, okay
[15:43] <syock> yedday: btw, that was xournal
[15:43] <ikonia> Yuji1 remove them using the yuser tool in systems -> administration
[15:43] <noiz> Could somone please help me whith my sounds and other problems on ubuntu?
[15:43] <Yuji1> ikonia: I only see my account and root..
[15:43] <ikonia> Yuji1: although I don't know why you'd want to do that
[15:44] <noiz> ooh ikonia it didnt work :(
[15:44] <Yuji1> ikonia: Experimentation..
[15:44] <ikonia> Yuji1: system accounts normally have a reason for being there, probably why the systems manager gui can't see them
[15:44] <ikonia> Yuji1: man userdel
[15:44] <James_UK> spree: the SATA hdd isnt detected as the drive alone... the boot option in bios is to boot from "bootable addin card" which is the SATA controller on teh motherboard
[15:44] <Yuji1> I know the purpose of system accounts.
[15:44] <fr500-work> hi
[15:44] <inzi85> hi everyone
[15:44] <Yuji1> Ubuntu...how to remove is weird.
[15:44] <fr500-work> why is apache2 so much different on intrepid
[15:44] <boubbin> can i run application from terminal _without sounds_? the application (pingus) doesnt have disable sounds option and it really has horrible sound effects :)
[15:45] <noiz> Oh well guess i cant listen anything at all,even cant watch this weeks family guy(thats the most depressing thing)
[15:45] <fr500-work> I mean the default site for instance
[15:45] <fr500-work> I can get to it fine from my lan
[15:45] <fr500-work> but not from outside
[15:45] <Yuji1> How can I allow them to be shown in that tool?
[15:45] <inzi85> has anyone installed a skystar2 dvb card on ubuntu and made it work? mine gives and error frontend drivers not found
[15:45] <ikonia> Yuji1 probably can't
[15:46] <noiz> Ikonia wud u try to help me out again?
[15:46] <spree> James_UK: knowing that, it's becoming more likely that we'll need to have the bootloader on your sata instead of your ide drive
[15:46] <noiz> or u have no idea anymore howto?
[15:46] <Yuji1> I found no yuser tool, but if you mean users-admin...?
[15:46] <inzi85> has anyone installed a skystar2 dvb card on ubuntu and made it work? mine gives and error frontend drivers not found
[15:46] <yedday> syock: but still, xournal seems to be the most (i.e. only) stable one..
[15:47] <mib_v5ygil> I have a fringe hardware question, is it possible with say the nvidia drivers to set a refresh rate as high as 600Hz
[15:47] <noiz> Oh god somone besides ikonia wana help me out?
[15:47] <mib_v5ygil> I have a friend who wants to use linux for a holography project
[15:47] <James_UK> spree: the only reason for me putting Grub on the ide with ubuntu was to keep the 2 OS completely seperate. That way if xp hdd dies i can still boot linux and visa versa
[15:47] <spree> noiz: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting follow it
[15:47] <mib_v5ygil> And he needs a high refresh rate.
[15:47] <noiz> spree the thing is before the 8.10 evrything absoulutly evrything was okey
[15:48] <spree> mib_v5ygil: #nvidia #hardware
[15:48] <spree> mib_v5ygil: you're in the wrong place pretty much guaranteed
[15:48] <noiz> oh and if i press "test" @ the sound prreferences it sends me errors
[15:48] <spree> noiz If you're not willing to do what i suggest then i can't help you
[15:48] <Yuji1> ikonia: See, curious about sync, man, lp, news, and uucp. LSAT, mhm.
[15:48] <noiz> i am :)
[15:49] <inzi85> has anyone installed a skystar2 dvb card on ubuntu and made it work? mine gives and error frontend drivers not found
[15:49] <ikonia> Yuji1 what's curious ?
[15:49] <Yuji1> noiz: I'd suggest not using autodetect just to see?
[15:49] <khu> 1426 utilisateurs =)
[15:49] <spree> James_UK sorry im not ignoring you
[15:49] <noiz> aplay: device_list:215: no soundcards found...
[15:49] <noiz> i dont use it
[15:49] <James_UK> spree: no problem :)
[15:49] <Yuji1> ikonia: What their purposes are, and why I'd need them.
[15:49] <Toznoshio> Hi community, are there any quest games with good graphics in Hardy's repositories? Any recommendations?
[15:49] <ikonia> Yuji1 depends what your doing, lp for printing support / cups for example
[15:50] <Yuji1> ...And why does some one need a seperate account for it?
[15:50] <raheem> !games
[15:50] <noiz> the thing is it had "audio usb" thing if i had 8.04 LTS and now it dont have it :/
[15:50] <mikethk> hello..... What to type to in terminal to show path? Like wine/path to wow/wow.exe   but how you type the path?
[15:50] <noiz> aplay: device_list:215: no soundcards found...
[15:50] <noiz> WTF is that?
[15:50] <noiz> i have a soundcard -.-
[15:50] <ikonia> noiz don't need to see "wtf"
[15:50] <spree> noiz what sound card
[15:50] <ikonia> !wtf >no
[15:50] <ikonia> !wtf >noiz
[15:50] <noiz> AC97
[15:50] <kri> hi can i boot the disc from a harddrive and install it from there (ubuntu-8.10 i386)
[15:50] <spree> mikethk pwd
[15:51] <ikonia> kri not really
[15:51] <Yuji1> mikethk: Unsure what you mean..
[15:51] <spree> Yuji1: he means pwd
[15:51] <Yuji1> Oh.
[15:51] <noiz> oh well :/
[15:51] <Yuji1> Any Unreal Tournament-style Ubuntu games? I've heard of some alien-game like that..
[15:51] <Dr_willis> mikethk,   learn how paths work? and use the tab key to complete long names.. :)  wine is .wine/STUFF
[15:51] <kri> ikonia: (external drive)
[15:51] <inzi85> does anyone know if after installing directx9 using winetricks, games work better?
[15:51] <nicolas> hey, i've downloaded the madwifi 0.9.4 and i cant make it work, help? i have an atheros ar242 in an amd64 bits
[15:52] <ikonia> kri doesn't matter
[15:52] <noiz> Yujil: so spree i cant do anything until Check that you have the proper modules installed.
[15:52] <noiz>  and i dont know what do install
[15:52] <websas> hello, when i want to install official nvidia drivers it says i need to turn of xorg( graphics ) how to ?
[15:52] <noiz> But whats whith the 8.10 point if the 8.04 wasnt tha tbuggy?
[15:52] <noiz> No yujil i got hacked there.. dont like it
[15:52] <C0p3rn1c> ﻿can somebody help me getting this tv-card to work? My sound doesnt work .﻿I have the Philips TV/Radio Card CTX918, (Medion 7134), PCI . http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/DVB-T_PCI_Cards#Medion http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m1bc9851c
[15:52] <ikonia> websas what is wrong whith the ubuntu packaged driers ?
[15:52] <xukun> can someone please tell me what to put in xorg.conf for my crt tv to work with s-video?
[15:53] <nicolas> im usin ubuntu 8.04
[15:53] <spree> James_UK somebody's probably going to say OMG DONT DO IT ITS NOT UBUNTU but check out the GAG bootloader http://gag.sourceforge.net/  might be easier in your situation
[15:53] <Yuji1> noiz: Lamer. And change hacked to cracked please.
[15:53] <Yuji1> You offend some people.
[15:53]  * Yuji1 -lip curl-
[15:53] <James_UK> spree:  thanx m8
[15:53] <noiz> Well yeah yujil but IS it my problam that the 8.10 is buggy_?
[15:53] <ikonia> noiz drop tha ttitude if you want help
[15:53] <iamelite> Hello my friends. I shall make my point: In ubuntu 8.10/Ibex - Gnome - I have installed VM ware Workstation. Upon boot of the VM the compter frezzes and 2 LEDs blink on Keyboard. Is anyone Familiar with this problem? Thank you for your time.
[15:53] <spree> hope that helps
[15:53] <ikonia> noiz: he's trying to help
[15:53] <Yuji1> noiz: A lot of people have had luck.
[15:53] <noiz> He aynt.
[15:53] <websas> ikonia my 9500gt doesnt work..i tried whole day..using new drivers from adept..then tried envyng..now i completely finally uninstalled everything sucessfully..
[15:53] <sinan1> I am trying to use ndiswrapper, i got the PCI ID, the list of drivers linked to from the Ubuntu help is dead, where am i supposed to find the drivers?
[15:53] <noiz> he told me to go to windows..
[15:53] <Yuji1> I had a lot of problems from the upgrade too.
[15:53] <noiz> is that helping?
[15:54] <spree> noiz step 1) give up and do exactly what we tell you to
[15:54] <Yuji1> sinan1: NDisWrapper uses Windows drivers..that help any?
[15:54] <noiz> I did
[15:54] <noiz> nothing worked so far
[15:54] <mikethk> Dr_willis, Oki so what would I have to write in terminal if I want to show the path? I suggest Wine/disk /folder /folder/wow.exe but dossent work...
[15:54] <ikonia> noiz no-one told you to go to windows
[15:54] <nicolas> im using ubuntu 8.04/hardy and i cant make my atheros ar242 wlan to work, any help??
[15:54] <noiz> Ikonia wrong i wont do that -.-
[15:54] <ikonia> noiz no-one told you to go to #windows
[15:54] <spree> noiz what did you say your soundcard was, manufacturer and model?
[15:54] <Hideme> Any insight as to why my sound works somedays and others it doesn't?
[15:54] <nicolas>  im using ubuntu 8.04/hardy 64 bits and i cant make my atheros ar242 wlan to work, any help??
[15:54] <Xeph> Yuji1: More quake-like, but you'd try nexuiz, warsow, maybe world of padman, or of course UT (guess you know they run on ubuntu?)
[15:54] <noiz> nvidia ac97 or sumth
[15:55] <Yuji1> I told him to go back to Windows if he isn't willing to deal with small problems such as sound not working.
[15:55] <Dr_willis> mikearr,  'show' the path? use the ls command, to see what files/directories exist.. the current path is shown with the 'pwd' command.     rember that linux IS case SenEseTivE
[15:55] <inzi85> is using winetricks with directx9 better than using cedega?
[15:55] <Yuji1> Xeph: UT3 doesn't, for Linux...sad too, isn't it?
[15:55] <spree> noiz pastebin the output of lspci please
[15:55] <spree> noiz type lspci in the terminal and put on pastebin.com
[15:55] <sinan1> Yuji1: i'll try to find the windows driver from Intel then ..
[15:55] <atax> Hi all, when adding a new ide-harddisk I can t mount it, because there is no reference to it in /etc/fstab. What program do I have to run to create the fstab entrees?
[15:55] <noiz> ye ye i know :D
[15:56] <nicolas> hi!! im using ubuntu 8.04/hardy and i cant make my atheros ar242 wlan to work, any help??
[15:56] <Dr_willis> mikethk,  you may want to spend an hr or so reading a few bash/shell beginner guides.  to learn the fundamentals.  see the !shell and !cli and !bash factoides
[15:56] <noiz> http://pastebin.com/m25530b7b
[15:56] <DarkKnight> hey i wanted to learn flash on ubuntu...what do i use??
[15:56] <Xeph> Yuji1: ah, well, ut99/03/04 do. thought you werent talking about 3, sorry. as far as i know, there were plans to port it to linux. wasn't there a demo released for linux?
[15:57] <spree> nicolas: http://ronymattar.com/blog/?p=9  google is your friend, you should use it
[15:57] <Xeph> Yuji1: Quake Wars was btw definately ported
[15:57] <Yuji1> Xeph: Not that I know of. Besides, if I overclock my NVidia in Linux, it kills over.
[15:57] <ikonia> DarkKnight there are no real flash tools
[15:57] <websas> any help ikonia for my 9500gt ?
[15:57] <Yuji1> I'm...not a Quake fan...
[15:57] <noiz> spree: http://pastebin.com/m25530b7b
[15:57] <Yuji1> >.>;
[15:57] <jimcooncat> mikethk: echo $PATH
[15:57] <ikonia> websas: wounds like your right to get the later drivers
[15:57] <inzi85> nicolas if u r using gnome, then try installing gparted
[15:57] <DarkKnight> ikonia; wats codeweaver?
[15:57] <ikonia> !envyng > websas
[15:57] <Yuji1> nicolas: ndisgtk GUI to NDISWRapper..
[15:57] <ikonia> DarkKnight a cross-over platform "emmulator" for want of a better word
[15:57] <Yuji1> *Wrapper
[15:57] <kri> hm about quake, there is game called warsow? any walhack packages avaible somewhere?
[15:57] <Xeph> me neither... :P well, if your hardware's not fast enouth to run UT3,... Yuji1
[15:58] <Yuji1> ...It is Xeph, I can run UT3 full graphics on this old Dell Dimension 4500.
[15:58] <websas> i tried envyng today it doesnt work..
[15:58] <kri> wallhack* for warsow...
[15:58] <spree> DarkKnight: Adobe Director is one of the most Wine-compatible applications. you'll need to use Director in wine.
[15:58] <Yuji1> No lag either, 50 FPS.
[15:58] <DarkKnight> ikonia.. word??? u mean word doucument???
[15:58] <noiz> and spree,the funny thing is that it detects my c-media usb phones but still aynt working :P
[15:58] <Yuji1> I can run it in Windows..if overclocked a little.
[15:58] <ikonia> Yuji1: kri may want to take this to #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:58] <noiz> http://pastebin.com/m25530b7b id u didnt see
[15:58] <spree> websas Completely forget about evnyng it stopped working after Gusty
[15:58] <ikonia> DarkKnight: emmulator for want of a better "word" as it's not an emmualtor
[15:58] <danilebeau> Hello!! iz got a problem.. I can't view youtube videos, whyyyyyyyyyy?
[15:58] <danilebeau> :'(
[15:59] <ikonia> danilebeau: install the package "flashplugin-nonfree"
[15:59] <kri> danilebeau: flash plugin you need
[15:59] <Yuji1> ikonia: You mean the UT3? I'm more for asking why Ubuntu kills over and locks up when I try overclocking it.
[15:59] <spree> websas: #nvidia helped me 6 months ago when i had these problems they'll help you
[15:59] <ikonia> Yuji1 the random games discussion though
[15:59] <noiz> Spree ? u still helping me?
[15:59] <xukun> is there really no one who can help me with this?
[15:59] <inzi85> #quit
[15:59] <Yuji1> ikonia: Oh, yes. Sorry. >.>;
[15:59] <danilebeau> oki doki, imma try that. thanks ikonia and kri
[15:59] <Yuji1> xukun: With what?
[15:59] <noiz> spree_ http://pastebin.com/m25530b7b
[15:59] <spree> danilebeau: Are you using an intel x86 processor or a amd64 bit processor
[16:00] <xukun> Yuji1, can someone please tell me what to put in xorg.conf for my crt tv to work with s-video?
[16:00] <ikonia> xukun: you can get xorg help in #xorg
[16:00]  * spree shrugs
[16:00] <rdw200169_> xukun: you got nvidia?\
[16:00] <Yuji1> ...Ah...Not a X-Server expert at all.
[16:00] <ikonia> xukun: you need to work out the cards output
[16:00] <noiz> oh well ..spree didnt u want to see the : http://pastebin.com/m25530b7b
[16:00] <spree> noiz sorry
[16:00] <spree> noiz im not ignoring you
[16:00] <noiz> np spree :D
[16:00] <xukun> rdw200169_, no ati with s-video
[16:00] <akahige> why is it that in the gnome file permissions editor, there is no "video" entry? there's audio and dvd playback, but nothing for video files.  am I missing something?
[16:00] <xukun> ikonia, the what?
[16:01] <rdw200169_> xukun: ah, nevermind, i know how to do it with nvidia only, sorry :(
[16:01] <noiz> nahh spree im just a little mad because of the fact that i have family guy on the desktop but i need watch it and laugh :D
[16:01] <sken> hello
[16:01] <Yuji1> akahige: I'm guessing a "yet-to-come" feature.
[16:01] <ikonia> xukun the card output, then configure a seperate screen defination for that output, #xorg will have some guys to help and tutorials
[16:01] <sken> how can i install this ? firefox-3.0.4.tar.bz2
[16:01] <ikonia> sken you don't
[16:01] <xukun> ikonia, ok thanks
[16:01] <rdw200169_> xukun: something like that is direcltly related to the ati drivers, you should check out the ati website for more help
[16:01] <ikonia> sken: ubuntu packages firefox for you
[16:01] <noiz> Well spree letme know when u have time :)
[16:01] <Yuji1> Use Synaptic Manager?
[16:01] <sken> does anybody has any clue>?
[16:01] <ikonia> sken ubuntu packages and updates firefox for you
[16:02] <Yuji1> sken: About?
[16:02] <Yuji1> If for Firefox...use Synaptic Manager.
[16:02] <sken> where can i find the package
[16:02] <akahige> Yuji1: I'm trying to edit them in defaults.list, but they don't "take". is tehre a way to force reload that file?
[16:02] <ikonia> sken it's already installed on ubuntu releases
[16:02] <sken> u mean in ubuntu?
[16:02] <ikonia> sken: you should be able to see the firefox application at the top of your screen
[16:02] <Yuji1> akahige: Wait, what do you mean? Edit what?
[16:03] <spree> noiz: try reinstalling the package esound
[16:03] <Muhammad_Saad> Hello, Can Open Office be configured to use Pango font rendering engine?
[16:03] <noiz> k
[16:03] <akahige> Yuji1: edit the default open with permissions for video files
[16:03] <sken> explain dude
[16:03] <noiz> spree lol i didn thave that installed :D
[16:04] <Yuji1> Properties..Tab: Open With
[16:04] <aurel42> Howdy. I'm watching Flash movies using a Virtualboxed WinXP, because on Gnome, I get severe video and sometimes audio stutter. Anybody happen to know a better workaround? (Yes, compiz is enabled, and no, I can't switch it off, I got addicted to that crack-for-the-eye)
[16:04] <spree> noiz well that would be a problem :)
[16:04] <rdw200169_> xukun: you should probably start here http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Configuring
[16:04] <noiz> spree: do i need to restart?
[16:04] <noiz> because well still dont work :/
[16:04] <Yuji1> akahige: For specific extensions, load the file properties dialog and select tab "Open With"
[16:04] <ikonia> noiz please show me uname -r now
[16:04] <rdw200169_> aurel42: you too, do you have nvidia?
[16:04] <xukun> rdw200169_, thanks a lot
[16:05] <aurel42> rdv
[16:05] <aurel42> rdw200169_: yes, proprietary drivers
[16:05] <akahige> Yuji1: that forces me to go "file type by file type"... isn't there something more global? (like defaults.list?)
[16:05] <rdw200169_> xukun: sorry i couldn't help more
[16:05] <noiz> ikonia: 2.6.25-2-386
[16:05] <aurel42> s/proprietary/restricted/
[16:05] <Yuji1> akahige: Not that I am aware of. :(
[16:05] <rdw200169_> aurel42: nvidia proprietary, i'm sure,
[16:05] <spree> noiz type alsamixer and make sure your volume siders are up
[16:05] <xukun> rdw200169_, that is ok
[16:05] <akahige> Yuji1: thnx
[16:05] <raheem> noiz, what is going on there, i wonder
[16:05] <Yuji1> akahige: No problem. :)
[16:05] <rdw200169_> aurel42: i had those problems too, then i upgraded my drivers, and they went away
[16:05] <peepsalot> can I install a single package from Intrepid onto a Hardy box without fully upgrading?
[16:05] <noiz> No mixer elems found
[16:05] <Jaymac> afternoon all - just upgraded to intrepid on my laptop (sony vaio sz3xwp) and noticed drastically reduced battery life.. running powertop gives me the following: A USB device is active 100.0% of the time:
[16:05] <Jaymac>  - I have nothing plugged into my usb ports.. any ideas?
[16:06] <noiz> ikonia:No mixer elems found
[16:06] <sken> how can i install this package? firefox-3.0.4.tar.bz2
[16:06] <ikonia> noiz: then you have not updated
[16:06] <ikonia> sken: you don't
[16:06] <Yuji1> Jaymac: Try running from a LiveCD to see if its the Intrepid upgrade perhaps?
[16:06] <whyameye> akahige: choose the file, then right click and choose "props" and you can change globally in the "open with" tab there.
[16:06] <ikonia> sken: ubuntu managers firefox for you
[16:06] <noiz> ikonia: i did .. and i even restarted.
[16:06] <aurel42> rdw200169_: you upgraded to drivers directly from nVidia? they got something new that isn't packaged yet?
[16:06] <Yuji1> sken: You were told how. Use Synaptic Manager..
[16:06] <spree> noiz sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart
[16:06] <ikonia> noiz: your kernel is still not an ubuntu kernel release
[16:06] <Jaymac> Yuji1: sorry when I said upgrade, I meant a fresh install :)
[16:06] <raheem> ubuntu 8.10 comes with 2.6.27.x.x kernel, as far as i know
[16:06] <ikonia> raheem correct
[16:07] <Yuji1> Jaymac: Ah. :( Not sure then.
[16:07] <sinan1> anyone has managed to run a wlan with an iwlwifi driver in adhoc mode?
[16:07] <davidw> beware of 8.10 if you use wireless with WPA
[16:07] <Yuji1> Hrm, some old CD-Rom drives are detected as USB driven..
[16:07] <noiz> ikonia: but i did updates etc :/
[16:07] <Yuji1> Perhaps...?
[16:07] <ikonia> noiz: can you please go to /boot/grub and put in a pastebin the file "menu.lst"
[16:07] <ikonia> noiz: your system is not ubuntu 8.10
[16:07] <Jaymac> Yuji this laptop is 18 months old...
[16:07] <Masterkiller> how can i specify which gcc to use during a compile?
[16:07] <raheem> ikonia: just a thought, did he choose to update to only LTS
[16:07] <Jaymac> Yuji1: this is the device: /sys/bus/usb/devices/4-2
[16:07] <peepsalot> can I upgrade a single package to the version in intrepid repos, on my hardy box?
[16:08] <ikonia> raheem doesn't matter, 8.04 is still on .24
[16:08] <noiz> ikonia: it is ..i did some weird things in terminal and it sayd it is
[16:08] <Yuji1> Hrm. :/ Not sure then.
[16:08] <noiz> ikonia: but il do the thing u asked
[16:08] <ikonia> noiz please paste the /boot/grub/menu.lst in a pastebin
[16:08] <Spydermonster> Hi guys i have an IRC question and im new to IRC how do i ensure ive registered my nick name and how do i check my mail on IRC ?
[16:08] <jimcooncat> is there a way to install stuff like gedit without installing X? I'd like to use over SSH -X.
[16:08] <Yuji1> I've had a few people wondering why it shows a USB device plugged in on 2K when it was the CD drive. Just thought a possibility.
[16:08] <spree> noiz: did you do the sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart
[16:08] <noiz> spree: yes
[16:08] <spree> noiz: if that didnt work do sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils reset
[16:09] <noiz> spree: ikonia tlking to me and says i dont have a 8.10 kernel w/E
[16:09] <noiz> k
[16:09] <sken> you suck
[16:09] <noiz> ikonia: bash: /boot/grub/menu.lst: Permission denied
[16:09] <raheem> !language
[16:09] <ikonia> noiz PLEASE paste the output of the file /boot/grub/menu.lst
[16:09] <Yuji1> >.>;
[16:09] <sken> i am telling you that i want to update firefox
[16:09] <spree> noiz the wrong kernel can certainly cause problems but i don't know if that's going to fix it. Talk to ikonia
[16:09] <Yuji1> sken: I have told you how. Twice now.
[16:09] <Masterkiller> omg that was a bad word?
[16:09] <noiz> ikonia: there was no output.
[16:09] <ikonia> noiz use sudo to edit it
[16:10] <spree> noiz: sudo
[16:10] <Yuji1> sken: System > Administration > Synaptic Manager Install the latest Firefox through that.
[16:10] <ikonia> noiz: sudo to open it
[16:10] <Masterkiller> how can i specify which gcc to use during a compile? or anyone know how to change the symlink?
[16:10] <Jaymac> Yuji, if the device is 4-2, does it mean that this is the device: Bus 004 Device 002: ID 044e:300c Alps Electric Co., Ltd Bluetooth Controller (ALPS/UGPZ6)
[16:10] <ikonia> Masterkiller: how many version do you have on your system ?
[16:10] <Yuji1> Jaymac: Mhm.
[16:10] <sken> firefox-3.0.4.tar.bz2 i downloaded that how can i install it?
[16:10] <noiz> ikonia: bash: /boot/grub/menu.lst: Permission denied
[16:10] <Jaymac> so i need to kill my bluetooth
[16:10] <ikonia> noiz open it in a text editor
[16:10] <Yuji1> sken: I have told you now 3 times. I won't again.
[16:10] <Masterkiller> ikonia, just 2, 4.3 and 4.1 trying to compile a kernel that wont work with 4.3 i need 4.1
[16:10] <noiz> ikonia: how?
[16:11] <Yuji1> Jaymac: Try killing it, filling battery, benchmark life of it.
[16:11] <ikonia> sken: you don't use those - you let ubuntu manager/update it for you
[16:11] <ikonia> noiz: sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst
[16:11] <whyameye> Masterkiller: when you type ./configure --help does it tell you? I think you set an env var named CC or something.
[16:11] <spree> noiz type sudo nano... and ikonia beat me to it
[16:11] <raheem> sken: since u insist to install firefox on ur own, please see the help page in firefox download page & follow it
[16:11] <ikonia> Masterkiller CC=/usr/bin/gcc-version
[16:11] <jimcooncat> sken https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware; good luck
[16:11] <noiz> ikonia: http://pastebin.com/m489ceb75
[16:11] <noiz> spree: http://pastebin.com/m489ceb75
[16:12] <Masterkiller> ikonia, thanks bud
[16:12] <kri> sken: tar zxvf yourfile.tar.gz (it will untar your file). then go to the dir then 'sudo ./configure' then 'sudo make' then 'sudo make install' if im not wrong. :)
[16:12] <spree> ikonia LOL
[16:12] <jimcooncat> sken, you won't get some of the niceness that ubuntu's package offers
[16:12] <ikonia> noiz: thats not the whole file
[16:12] <sken> i searches synaptic and i did't find anything about the new version
[16:12] <noiz> ikonia: yes it is!
[16:12] <ikonia> kri you are wrong
[16:12] <noiz> ikonia: wana screenshot?
[16:12] <Yuji1> noiz: I'd use sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[16:12] <kri> ikonia: what part?
[16:12] <spree> noiz you cut the file off please scroll down and include the rest lol
[16:12] <Crusher> usually where smb.conf is located? how can i find anything using command line?
[16:12] <ikonia> kri: you need to specify some specific build time options
[16:13] <Jaymac> Yuji1: I killed bluetooth via the Services tab.. now I'm being told a USB device is active 0.2% of the time :)
[16:13] <Yuji1> If you don't have gedit, substitute for a text editor that you do or install it via sudo apt-get install gedit
[16:13] <noiz> spree: wana see a screenshot?
[16:13] <kri> specific build time options?
[16:13] <Rioting_pacifist> my fsck stops my boot doing anything for 5 seconds, and bootchart shows it as zombied, the checkfslog shows nothing but i cant seem to get a boot log
[16:13] <ikonia> kri: you can't just blindly configure && make && make install software
[16:13] <ph8> does anyone know how i can check if my PC is receiving signals through my X-fi + creative speaker's remote control?
[16:13] <Jaymac> Yuji1: that's a better number
[16:13] <Yuji1> Jaymac: Success? :D
[16:13] <ph8> does anyone know how i can check if my PC is receiving signals through my X-fi + creative speaker's remote control? e.g. the next track button
[16:13] <Rioting_pacifist> 1) how do i get a boot log / where is it
[16:13] <Yuji1> Jaymac: Wonderful then. :)
[16:13] <kri> ikonia: you cant? :)
[16:13] <raheem> noiz: i guess this is not going anywhere, and won't if we continue this way, i guess
[16:13] <spree> noiz or just type sudo cat /etc/grub/menu.lst and copy/paste the whole thing
[16:13] <noiz> oh lol
[16:13] <Jaymac> Yuji1: nope, it's back again.. damn
[16:13] <Yuji1> spree: I forgot about cat, woah. -_-
[16:13] <sken> i searched synaptic and i did't find anything about the new version
[16:14] <raheem> goodluck noiz
[16:14] <Yuji1> Jaymac: Then have Ubuntu disable/not use it.
[16:14] <Yuji1> Then it should fix..
[16:14] <Crusher> usually where smb.conf is located? how can i find anything using command line?
[16:14] <xukun> when I make changes with the Ati Catalyst Control Center where does it save the configuration? it seems not xorg.conf.
[16:14] <Yuji1> sken: Type "firefox" in the Synaptic search textbox.
[16:14] <ikonia> sken it may not have been updated yet
[16:14] <Crusher> usually where smb.conf is located? 	 	how can i find anything using command line?
[16:14] <Jaymac> Yuji1: apart from disabling it in services, how do i do that?
[16:14] <Rioting_pacifist> 2) can i set the fsck to be nice so even if it zombies the boot can continue (its costing me about 11 seconds EVERY boot (even if it doesnt do a fsck))
[16:14] <sken> i did that
[16:14] <ikonia> sken: ubuntu's update-manager will alert you to when updates are available
[16:14] <Crusher> usually where smb.conf is located? how can i find anything using command line?
[16:15] <noiz> ikonia: its hard to copy it -.- cant scroll up whilecopyn it
[16:15] <Yuji1> Jaymac: ...Hrm, never used BlueTooth so I'm not sure?
[16:15] <ikonia> Crusher /etc/smb
[16:15] <sysdoc> Anyone know of a Linux app for scanning and OCR?
[16:15] <gonzaloaf_laptop> hello after upgrading from 8.04 to 8.10 my virtualbox stop working, how can I solve that? the error message is "" * No suitable module for running kernel found.
[16:15] <Dr_willis> Crusher,  the locate command is handy for that.. its in /etc/samba/ by the way
[16:16] <Rioting_pacifist> !virtualbox
[16:16] <ackbahr> Hi guys! To test 8.10, I installed it alongside 8.04 and when I was certain it worked, I upgraded 8.04 to 8.10. The problem is that the upgraded one can't display properly. So can I export some settings from the working 8.10 onto the non-working one?
[16:16] <ikonia> noiz: sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[16:16] <Yuji1> ackbahr: ...I'd rather fresh install than that..
[16:16] <jimcooncat> does emacs or vim come with training wheels? I need a better editor.
[16:16] <Crusher> Dr_willis: thanks
[16:17] <ackbahr> Yuji1: Yes, but I have many other settings, you know....
[16:17] <spree> sysdoc: here's a review of all of the OCR programs http://groundstate.ca/ocr
[16:17] <Yuji1> ackbahr: As did/do I.
[16:17] <noiz> ikonia: done what now
[16:17] <Dr_willis> jimcooncat,  run/read through vimtutor   - vim is worth learning well...
[16:17] <Dr_willis> !info vimtutor
[16:17] <Yuji1> ackbahr: What specifically is the problem?
[16:17] <Dr_willis> !vimtutor
[16:17] <gonzaloaf_laptop> Rioting_pacifist, vbox send me here to ask for help
[16:17] <ikonia> noiz: sudo cat /boot/grub/menu.lst | pastebinit
[16:17] <jimcooncat> thanks Dr_w
[16:17] <Masterkiller> ikonia, hmm still now working. i do a gcc -v and it still says 4.3
[16:18] <jimcooncat> thanks Dr_willis I'll give it a shot!
[16:18] <ikonia> Masterkiller thats because your executting gcc from the command line
[16:18] <ikonia> Masterkiller: CC=/usr/bin/gcc-whatever
[16:18] <ackbahr> Yuji1: When I boot, it tells me it cannot configure the display so do I want to reconfigure it myself? When I say "yes" nothing happens....
[16:18] <ikonia> Masterkiller: you may have to export CC
[16:18] <Masterkiller> i also did a make clean and it said built with 4.3 doh
[16:18] <Yuji1> Ah I had that problem.
[16:18] <noiz> ikonia:http://pastebin.com/f1b7ed54c
[16:18] <Yuji1> Check your menu.lst in grub to see if you're using the latest kernel.
[16:18] <hellboy3> which software can i use to convert video files to ipod (mp4 )
[16:18] <Yuji1> I told it to keep my old kernel and well, Nvidia hated it.
[16:18] <sysdoc> spree, thanks much
[16:19] <Rioting_pacifist> gonzaloaf_laptop: i dont use vbox but the page may list the modules you need to reinstall
[16:19] <ackbahr> Yuji1: [17:18] <Yuji1> Check your menu.lst in grub to see if you're using the latest kernel. ==> Is this for me?
[16:19] <Yuji1> Ubuntu, yes?
[16:19] <noiz> ikonia:well how wrong it is? :D
[16:19] <sken> why i can't press the button in firefox help<check for update?
[16:19] <hersto> for a few days my 8.10 Update Manager does not want to display changes of packages. Says "The list of changes is not available". Any ideas?
[16:19] <ikonia> noiz seems very
[16:19] <Dr_willis> sken,  yse the package maanger to update/upgrade firefox. not that button.
[16:19] <Yuji1> So update to the latest kernel, make sure your menu.lst is updated to it, log on (it may ask to configure graphics, continue in low graphics) install latest nvidia, done. Shutdown restart.
[16:19] <Yuji1> Thats how I got it to work.
[16:19] <Rioting_pacifist> gonzaloaf_laptop:  for 8.04 sudo apt-get install virtualbox-ose virtualbox-ose-modules-`uname -r` for 8.10 it may be different but it may work
[16:20] <noiz> ikonia: and how to fix ?
[16:20] <hellboy3> does any one know any video converting software for ipod (mp4)
[16:20] <HansiFlick> Hello - did anybody need support in german language?
[16:20] <spree> sysdoc: http://code.google.com/p/ocropus/ seems to be very cool but it's just barely out of beta, very new its not an ubuntu package
[16:20] <noiz> ikonia: doctor how worse is the situation :P
[16:20] <spree> sysdoc you'll need to build it yourself
[16:20] <ikonia> noiz someone is telling me that your running an alpha version of ubuntu 8.10
[16:21] <noiz> ikonia: it was a autoupdate -.-
[16:21] <Dominik314> i am haveing problems changing brightness on a dell inspiron 8200, I can change brightness via fn keys in bios, but not in Ubuntu, what can I do?
[16:21] <noiz> ikonia: well at the update manager
[16:21] <ackbahr> Yuji1: Thanks!
[16:21] <Yuji1> ackbahr: Worked?
[16:21] <noiz> ikonia: and how do i get the thing right?
[16:21] <ikonia> noiz can you do "sudo cat /etc/sources.list | pastebinit" please
[16:21] <ackbahr> Yuji1: Not tried yet, but that's already something to try! :)
[16:21] <Dr_willis> pastebinit /etc/sources.list
[16:22] <Dr_willis> will work :)
[16:22] <raheem> looks like it is a mess
[16:22] <ackbahr> So long folks!
[16:22] <Yuji1> ackbahr: :)
[16:22] <ikonia> Dr_willis thank you, didn't know that
[16:22] <Dr_willis> with a sudo :)
[16:22] <noiz> ikonia: cat: /etc/sources.list: No such file or blablabla
[16:22] <noiz> cat: /etc/sources.list: No such file or directory
[16:22] <noiz> KeyboardInterrupt caught.
[16:22] <Dr_willis> its /etc/apt/sources.list also. :)
[16:22] <ikonia> Dr_willis thank you
[16:22] <ikonia> noiz  /etc/apt/sources.list
[16:22] <Yuji1> ikonia: pastebinit? ????
[16:23] <ikonia> Yuji1: yup
[16:23] <Yuji1> ikonia: You mean "pastebin" it. ?
[16:23] <noiz> ikonia: bash: /etc/apt/sources.list: Permission denied
[16:23] <ikonia> Yuji1 nope, apt-get install pastebinit
[16:23] <Yuji1> noiz: Try sudo before that all.
[16:23] <kri> ok now there will be 320gb 7200rpm 16mb cache or 500gb 7200rpm 16 mb cache, what to chose? whats that catch good for?
[16:23] <Yuji1> ikonia: Awesome! :D
[16:23] <ikonia> noiz sudo cat /etc/apt/sources.list | pastebinit
[16:23] <kri> the last one had only 8mb cache*
[16:23] <ikonia> Dr_willis: how do you deal wuith sudo
[16:23] <ikonia> Dr_willis: in terms of pastebinit
[16:24] <kri> wrong channel
[16:24] <noiz> chttp://pastebin.com/f48d1f12e
[16:24] <Yuji1> 500 is slower, but stores more.
[16:24] <noiz> ikonia: http://pastebin.com/f48d1f12e
[16:24] <Dr_willis> ikonia,  sudo pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list   should work
[16:24] <Yuji1> 320 is faster, stores less. Obvious?
[16:24] <raheem> Dr_willis: awesome :)
[16:24] <Dr_willis> 8mb cache vs 16mb cache.. id go with the bigger HD...
[16:24] <ikonia> noiz this is an EE pc ?
[16:24] <Jaymac> Yuji1: I filed a bug report.. well there already was one so I updated it.. removing btusb solves the problem
[16:25] <noiz> ikonia: ee? no lol im from EE tho :D
[16:25] <Yuji1> Jaymac: :) There you go. Problem solved.
[16:25] <Jaymac> Yuji1: well disabling bluetooth isn't much of a solution!
[16:25] <noiz> ikonia: if u mean Estonia tho :P
[16:25] <Yuji1> ...Well an attempt to one.
[16:25] <ikonia> noiz don't worry
[16:25] <noiz> ikonia: wha u mean? :O
[16:26] <noiz> ikonia: fixable? :O
[16:26] <ikonia> noiz I have to be honest, I don't see how you could have got this kernel on your system,
[16:26] <raheem> me either, love to know
[16:26] <ikonia> noiz: it's not in the intrepid or hardy repos
[16:26] <ikonia> noiz: I've been told it is in a git tree, but that wouldn't explain how you've got it
[16:27] <noiz> ikonia: But it was all fine when i had 8.04 why is 8.10 so buggy or so
[16:27] <ikonia> noiz your not using a proper 8.10 install
[16:27] <noiz> ikonia: and i have a cd fo that
[16:27] <noiz> ikonia: i used the update manager. how was tha tnot right?
[16:27] <raheem> noiz: when did u download it, btw
[16:27] <raheem> the cd, i mean
[16:27] <noiz> raheem: abaut 3 days ago.
[16:27] <ikonia> noiz I don't know at the moment, it looks like a very early alpha version at best
[16:28] <akahige> is there a copy modifier to leave owner/group intact?
[16:28] <noiz> ikonia: but so wtf how did i get that.? :O
[16:28] <lirit> how can I get ISO_Level3_Shift to map to control key?
[16:28] <raheem> one week back i did an upgrade, on my hp 6720s laptop, went smoothly
[16:28] <Yuji1> akahige: Not sure what you mean. >.>;
[16:28] <ikonia> noiz I asked you not to use wtf
[16:28] <noiz> ikonia: sorry for the bad word :P
[16:28] <DJones> noiz: Did you download it from the ubuntu website, or was it from a torrent?
[16:28] <noiz> djones: i have a autoupdate manager...
[16:29] <Yuji1> akahige: You mean copy files with the permissions as well?
[16:29] <noiz> djones: or well just a "update manager" that says my os is up to date
[16:29] <akahige> Yuji1: I copied /var to a different fs (from the live cd) and I'm finding that some of the files don't have the same group as the original
[16:29] <Yuji1> akahige: Trying to copy an installation over another? -_-
[16:29] <raheem> noiz: sourcelist pls, as ikonia suggested
[16:29] <dli> akahige, cp -p
[16:29] <OxDeadC0de> how do i get debug symbols for apps like xulrunner and firefox? is there a special repo for them or what?
[16:29] <jp__> hi all ! pretty new to ubuntu . got kmobiletools loaded but does not recognise my motorola c650 mobile phone . anyone could help me at all please ?
[16:29] <noiz> raheem: i gave it to him alrdy
[16:29] <ikonia> raheem: it's "fine" I've got it here
[16:29] <dli> akahige, or, cp -a (archive mode)
[16:29] <Yuji1> dli: Useful to know. :)
[16:30] <FWP-> Hi
[16:30] <Hideme> Any insight as to why my sound just stops working for no reason after reboot?
[16:31] <akahige> Yuji1 / dli: thanks!
[16:31] <iamelite> Hello, I have run into issue with 8.10. Upon starting any virtualization, the system freezes, and my keyboard blinks. I believe i have narrowed it down to something dealing with the ***USB*** As Vbox OSE without USB works, but Vbox closed with USB freezes
[16:31] <Crusher> when i try to share a folder in a network this errror is shown...
[16:31] <noiz> ikonia: oops even the ppl on the #ubuntu aynt getting it why evrything is like it is :D
[16:31] <Yuji1> Hideme: See my notice.
[16:31] <dli> akahige, you can use: cp -ax to copy the whole ubuntu system, I guess
[16:31] <Crusher> when i try to share a folder in a network this errror is shown...http://pastebin.com/d20187555
[16:31] <ikonia> noiz I can't explain why your system is in the state it is in, I really have no answer for that
[16:32] <FWP-> you tell me
[16:32] <scientes> can i use gparted via ssh?
[16:32] <noiz> ikonia: But what state it is exactly?
[16:32] <ikonia> scientes I wouldn't
[16:32] <ikonia> noiz I mess with a non-existant kernel
[16:32] <Yuji1> noiz: Try a fresh download today, burn, install. ?
[16:32] <noiz> ikonia: it cant be like even u or noone else can handle this situation
[16:32] <jp__> anyone could help with kmobiletools issues please ?
[16:32] <noiz> yujil:i have a ubuntu cd alrdy a original one..
[16:32] <scientes> how should i partiton via command line then?
[16:32] <ikonia> Crusher: change the owner ship of the directory to yourself
[16:32] <akahige> dli: doesn't that assume that your entire system is one the same fs?
[16:32] <ikonia> scientes do it on the local box
[16:32] <Yuji1> Try a new fresh one today if the problem can't be solved here?
[16:32] <noiz> yujil: but AFTER i updated Even the boot from cd aynt working so yeah :D
[16:32] <unclemike> Gnea, finaly got it working ....after doing a reinstilation of desktop-panel...desktop-panel-data..gnome settings.....did a metacity --replace for the 2nd time..loged out and back in and works fine
[16:33] <Crusher> got it
[16:33] <noiz> ikonia:tbh i cant even format :P
[16:33] <ikonia> noiz I personall would get an 8.10 cd from http://www.ubuntu.com and re-install
[16:33] <ikonia> personally
[16:33] <dli> akahige, yes, but with a little more tweaks, you can do it. of course, /boot/grub/menu.lst /etc/fstab, /etc/modules, etc
[16:33] <noiz> ikonia: how i activate it?
[16:33] <ikonia> noiz: thats simpley because I can't expalin why your box is like it is
[16:33] <noiz> ikonia:id love to do that :D
[16:33] <ikonia> noiz: you dno't need to activate it
[16:33] <scientes> whats the other comand line tool other than parted
[16:33] <ikonia> noiz: it's free
[16:33] <noiz> ikonia: yeah how i activate it?
[16:33] <mon^rch> is anyone having multiple errors upon first boot after installing Intrepid?
[16:33] <ikonia> noiz: you don't activate it
[16:33] <scientes> like something like the bsd one
[16:34] <noiz> ikonia:i mean i get a iso from there ay?
[16:34] <ikonia> noiz: go to the download link on the url I gave you
[16:34] <Dulak> scientes: cfdisk or fdisk
[16:34] <kronos_> I was wondering if it was possible to share an internet connection from Ubuntu 7.10 to Windows xp via ethernet cable.  the windows box is saying its hooked up to a lan but i'm not sure where to look to figure out how to do it
[16:34] <noiz> ikonia: i didnt dl the ubuntu 8.190 from there
[16:34] <noiz> 8.10*
[16:34] <ikonia> noiz then install from that cd
[16:34] <noiz> ikonia: update manager did that for me
[16:35] <ikonia> noiz update manager doesn't download CD
[16:35] <Yuji1> kronos_: You should have an ethernet cable that is reversed in the two and set your Ubuntu up as DHCP server to it. Personally I'd say its easier going through windows for that.
[16:35] <noiz> ikonia: u mean i just download it and then?
[16:35] <ikonia> noiz: then burn the cd and boot from it
[16:35] <Yuji1> Windows instructions I have are absolute. I do that all the time.
[16:35] <Hideme> Yuji1:  Ah yes, it asla wasn't checked off. I've now checked it, do I need to manually start the service right now (I don't want to reboot)?
[16:35] <Exry> I got a problem with my /home disk
[16:35] <Yuji1> ikonia: Burn the ISO*
[16:35] <noiz> ikonia: my BOOTING aynt working -.-
[16:35] <kri> how can i find out if my harddrive is sata300?
[16:35] <Rioting_pacifist> kronos_: 1st you need to make sure your using the correct cable/ have clever cards, can you ping the ubuntu box from the windows box
[16:35] <Yuji1> Hideme: You can. :)
[16:35] <ikonia> noiz what?
[16:36] <noiz> ikonia:i have a 6.06 LTS ubuntu cd
[16:36] <Yuji1> kri: Open up your chassis, take a peak.
[16:36] <noiz> ikonia: i cant boot it anymore :P
[16:36] <kri> Yuji1: is a laptop
[16:36] <ikonia> noiz your not listtening
[16:36] <StrikeTeam> hey guys anyone know how to fix the issue with EVOLUTION MAIL, that when u have a HTML signature setup, the next time you open evo mail and type a new message, the signature is all in HTML code???
[16:36] <akahige> dli: It looks like I have two options... I can drop back to the live cd and recopy the original /var fs ... or, is there a way to compare the original and running /var's from the running system and change the owner / group settings?
[16:36] <Yuji1> noiz: Latest out is 8.10, download it and such.
[16:36] <unclemike> from upgrade from 7.04..to 7.10 to 8.04 to 8.10 in 1 day...is there anything left in the system from the other versions that i might want to get rid of
[16:36] <Hideme> Yuji1:  Just "asla" in a terminal?
[16:36] <Yuji1> kri: dmesg maybe?
[16:36] <noiz> yujil: i dont have a cd -.-
[16:36] <ikonia> noiz: go to http://www.ubuntu.com and download and burn the 8.10 - then boot from that cd
[16:36] <Exry> I got a problem with my /home disk, on boot it says unclean shutdown and futher that sdb (/home) is broken. But I can see the disk with all files udner Vista. How can I use it again? :(
[16:36] <Crusher> ikonia:but how can i change the ownership?
[16:36] <noiz> ikonia: god aynt u listening i cant boot form a cd ...
[16:36] <Yuji1> Hideme: Ah, hrm. Google restart alsa. ?
[16:36] <ikonia> Crusher: chown and chmod
[16:36] <Pici> noiz: Why not?
[16:37] <noiz> pici: i have no idea after the 8.10 update
[16:37] <unclemike> !upgrade
[16:37] <ikonia> noiz the 8.10 is not hing to do with this
[16:37] <noiz> ikonia:neways i think i have a glitch what happened
[16:37] <dli> akahige, which part of /var messed up?
[16:37] <ikonia> noiz: to boot froma cd - ubuntu has not even loaded
[16:37] <kri> Yuji1: how do i grep that text that comes into a file?
[16:37] <Pici> noiz: The only reason you wouldn't be able to boot from a CD would be a physicaly hardware issue, and 8.10 has nothing to do with that.
[16:37] <Yuji1> noiz: Listen please. Use any working computer to download Ubuntu 8.10. Burn the ISO and use that CD, the new one you just burn, to install Ubuntu. Do a completely fresh install.
[16:37] <needhelp> Hello, what is the reason for that Ubuntu doesn't find the memory stick, but when I switch to Windows, it finds it and loads it immediately ?
[16:37] <jp__> HELP kmobiletools PLEASE ... ?
[16:37] <akahige> dli: well I *know* my samba directory had some probs.  don't know what else *might* have issues...
[16:37] <noiz> ikonia: i have 8.04 LTS and 8.10 together,u see i had 8.04 and i USED the update manager to update the 8.10 and it only gave me the updates not the full thing :O
[16:37] <Yuji1> kri: I have never used grep. Autistic, I can't understand grep. >.>; lol
[16:37] <noiz> ikonia:may i be right?
[16:38] <kronos_> nope its saying destination unreachable
[16:38] <ikonia> noiz very wrong
[16:38] <ikonia> noiz: update manager does not download a cd
[16:38] <Rioting_pacifist> kronos_: if your sure the computers are properly connected, then you need to use a firewall to bridge the connections and you may need to kill NetworkManager, but youll probably be able to find a howto to talk you thought the bridging
[16:38] <noiz> ikonia:NO IT JUST UPGRADES
[16:38] <dli> akahige, I don't know samba
[16:38] <ikonia> noiz: open a web browser - go to http://www.ubuntu.com, download the 8.10 cd, burn the cd, then boot from it
[16:38] <noiz> ikonia: ur not listening to me
[16:38] <Yuji1> Rioting: Personally I'd prefer a hub, Windows with ICS, mhm..
[16:38] <noiz> ikonia: im explaining why it is like this :P
[16:38] <Pici> noiz: Your current Ubuntu install is irreparable.
[16:39] <akahige> dli: I think I got the samba thing fixed... but it was just luck that I ran across the problem...
[16:39] <Yuji1> noiz: You aren't listening to their resolutions..
[16:39] <ty> !botsnack
[16:39] <Dominik314> my laptops brightness adjust is os independent, however UBUNTU overwrites the commands when I hit the FN up key (to increase brightness).  How do I tell ubuntu to stop doing this and just let the bios controll the brightness?
[16:39] <noiz> ikonia: yujil i dont have a cd ffs -.-
[16:39] <Yuji1> Dominik314: ADES Manager?
[16:39] <Exry> Ubuntu tells me that my /home disk is defect. But i can see it and use files with Vista. How can I make Ubuntu see my /home again? :(
[16:39] <raheem> noiz: why u can't follow what is told by those, that's the only solution u got buddy
[16:39] <Hideme> Yuji1:  Damn, didn't fix it.  Any other suggestions?
[16:39] <ty> does any1 know about making an irc bot for ircd-hybrid
[16:39] <ikonia> noiz get one, or order one for free from ubuntu.com
[16:39] <jp__> well ... NO thx AT ALL ... ...
[16:39] <Dominik314> Yuji1: what is that where do I find it?
[16:39] <Yuji1> Dominik314: Try keyboard shortcuts?
[16:39] <ikonia> !offtopic > ty
[16:39] <kri> Yuji1: 'SATA max UDMA/133' ?
[16:39] <Yuji1> kri: :)
[16:39] <rothchild> afternoon, is it possible to access a Novell NetStorage server using ubuntu (intrepid)?
[16:40] <ikonia> rothchild: how is it being shared ?
[16:40] <rothchild> https
[16:40] <FloodBot3> !netsplit
[16:40] <ikonia> rothchild sure
[16:40] <Pici> !patience | jp__
[16:40] <alex_> [B/[B[B[B/quit
[16:40] <kri> Yuji1: wtf is that supose to mean?
[16:40] <ty> !offtopic
[16:40] <ty> !offtopic > ty
[16:40] <ikonia> kri please stop using wtf
[16:40] <abchirk> lol
[16:40] <Yuji1> Hideme: ? You run in low until you can install Nvidia. Then shutdown restart, Nvidia should be ok with it and then reconfigure, use default generic or new.
[16:40] <noiz> ikonia: cant u listen i could just b00t my 6.06 LTS and upgrade that to 8.04 THEN evrything worked
[16:40] <Yuji1> kri: Means yes, but please do not use offensive words.
[16:40] <noiz> ikonia: but when i insert the cd it wont boot it
[16:40] <rothchild> ikonia any tips I've tried putting the address in both nautilus and firefox but it just times out
[16:41] <kri> Yuji1: well is my drive just ide? thought it was sata, i have full encryption on.. but?
[16:41] <ikonia> rothchild check your network settings, make sure it's on the right network
[16:41] <Yuji1> noiz: Can't you listen? Ikonia has been very nice helping you and has offered resolutions. If you wish not to take them, then their is no purpose in you being here right? Just try Ikonia's resolution..
[16:41] <kri> Yuji1: cause im thinking of upgrading disc to SATA300 disc but that would not work?
[16:41] <noiz> ikonia: i did this http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading
[16:41] <ikonia> noiz: order a free cd from ubuntu.com - if your CD doesn't boot you have a hardware erorr, and nothing we do or say will help
[16:41] <noiz> ikonia: and all went bad!
[16:41] <Dominik314> Yuji1: there is no setting in it for shortcuts
[16:41] <Yuji1> kri: Not sure.
[16:41] <raheem> noiz: boot from a cd is set through the bios
[16:41] <rothchild> ikonia: I'm trying to get remote access over the web
[16:41] <ikonia> noiz: I know you did the upgrade - that is dead now - lets stop talking about that
[16:41] <Hideme> Yuji1: Nvidia kernel?
[16:41] <noiz> ikonia: that page i followed and this happened because of that page
[16:41] <Yuji1> Dominik314: Then I am not sure..
[16:41] <Yuji1> Hideme: Mhm.
[16:41] <ikonia> rothchild: is that server listening public on the web
[16:41] <noiz> ikonia:just check the page .
[16:42]  * Yuji1 sets ignore on noiz.
[16:42] <ikonia> noiz: I know what that does
[16:42] <jp__> did not mean no offense ...
[16:42] <needhelp> Hello, I have a 4GB memory stick which works fine in Windows. But when I plug it in while using Ubuntu on the same comp, nothing happens, and I can't find it there. Any ideas?
[16:42] <KillGuta> Hello all
[16:42] <noiz> ikonia: well i did that..
[16:42] <ikonia> noiz: get the cd from ubuntu.com - if you can't use it you have a hardware error
[16:42] <ikonia> noiz: you did that - it's not worked, it can't be fixed - stop talking about it
[16:42] <Yuji1> needhelp: It isn't automounting.
[16:42] <noiz> kk
[16:42] <ikonia> noiz: I'm telling you how to get a working system
[16:42] <rothchild> I'm not directly on the network, I've got instructions for xp (so yes I'm guessing it's on the web) all there is is the address though, no port settings or anything, is that correct?
[16:42] <KillGuta> How do I make Emerald my default theme manager?
[16:42] <needhelp> Yuji1: what should I do?
[16:42] <KillGuta> I got it working only by emerald --replace in the console
[16:43] <jp__> Pici / ubottu : did not mean no offense ... :-)
[16:43] <mon^rch> can anyone point me to a gpg for exaile hardy?
[16:43] <ikonia> rothchild speak to the guys who gave you the instructions as I don't know without understanding yoursetup
[16:43] <Dr_willis> KillGuta,  install/use that fusion-icon tool - is one easy way
[16:43] <Yuji1> needhelp: Well, I'd try googling for "automount usb drives Ubuntu"
[16:43] <Dr_willis> !info fusion-icon
[16:43] <ikonia> rothchild: the easy answer is "yes ubuntu can connect to your https servers"
[16:43] <KillGuta> Dr_willis: But I want it on every time I start ubuntu
[16:43] <rafa> www.golgle.com.br
[16:43] <raheem> noiz: i did follow that way & it worked well for me
[16:43] <Dr_willis> KillGuta,  Yes.. as i said.. that tool can set that...
[16:43] <KillGuta> ok thanks
[16:44] <raheem> anyway, start over buddy
[16:44] <noiz> raheem: and i did the same and it didnt for me :) so no probs il jsut format etc
[16:44] <rafa> www.orkut.com.br
[16:44] <ikonia> rafa stop
[16:44] <raheem> rafa: this is an ubuntu support channel, just in case u didn't notice
[16:45] <raheem> good luck noiz
[16:45] <rothchild> thanks ikonia, it's my partners work I'll get her to follow up, it appears to work from windows just 'create new network place' drop in the address and away you go, it asks for user and pwrd I'll try and find out what they've got going at the other end
[16:45] <rafa> www.orkut.com.br
[16:46] <raheem> good job there ikonia
[16:46] <Yuji1> :)
[16:46] <KillGuta> um...
[16:47] <KillGuta> it didn't do anything
[16:47] <Yuji1> ikonia: USB drive in dmesg reports (hangs boot as well) device descriptor errors. Bad thumb drive for Linux? Works in Windows. USplash never shows any more after the upgrade to 8.10. Not sure.
[16:47] <Yuji1> KillGuta: Emerald to automatically replace?
[16:47] <blinkiz> I need some help understanding how Evolution can work with public keys (GPG). Does it exist a easy search feature (or plugin) to search for public keys within Evolution?
[16:47] <KillGuta> Yea
[16:47] <ikonia> Yuji1 device descriptor errors intersting thats normally a bad "definiton" of the device eG: " a disk" rather than "a usb disk of this size made by this company"
[16:47] <Yuji1> Session Manager, "Add"
[16:47] <KillGuta> My theme isn't changing
[16:48] <Yuji1> Select it in the Emerald Theme Manager..
[16:48] <KillGuta> yes I know, but I select an imported theme but nothing happens
[16:48] <mngoldeneagle> Hi... I'm having difficulties getting Ubuntu to work on my computer.  Whenever I log into the GUI, the screen goes all black.  I've tried upgrading and removing FGLRX entirely, but nothing seems to work.  Any suggestions?
[16:48] <Yuji1> "Nothing Happens" Was it installed?
[16:48] <SOF4LNX> BUG BUG BUG, FIX: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gadmin-proftpd/+bug/276181
[16:48] <KillGuta> oups nevermind
[16:48] <KillGuta> got it working :D
[16:48] <Yuji1> KillGuta : Good. :)
[16:48] <south_korea> Paddy_EIRE, Hey, :) I have 8.10_x86, You were right :) Cd was broken, I don't know why but I waste 5 Cds to copy it right. and Finally....I have dream came true THANK YOU :D
[16:49] <Yuji1> ikonia: Well I did use TrueCrypt...
[16:49] <ikonia> Yuji1 interesting so maybe thats why it doesn't have info on it
[16:49] <Yuji1> ikonia: >///> And any resolution you think?
[16:49] <IcyPolecat> is it possible to have multiple bonded interfaces (eg bond0 = eth0 & eth2 bond1 = eth1 & eth3)?
[16:49] <Yuji1> Would a simple format do it?
[16:49] <ikonia> Yuji1 decypt it first ?
[16:49] <Yuji1> ikonia: Ah...if it won't mount or work...how?
[16:50] <south_korea> ** i need personal organizer. please suggest me one ~ :)
[16:50] <ikonia> Yuji1 access the device - not the file system
[16:50] <ikonia> Yuji1: eg: /dev/$whatever
[16:50] <Yuji1> And I figure the name by...?
[16:50] <tsunami> I am trying to setup my partitions to avoid grub 18 error (my bios is very old and needs the boot at the begining of the disk).  Will the guided partitioner do this automatically with ubuntu 8.10 or do i need to set it up manually?
[16:50] <south_korea> ** i use Gnome :)
[16:50] <Yuji1> ikonia: O.o; Using usb<tab><tab> shows like, a billion usb devices.
[16:51] <ikonia> Yuji1 /var/log/syslog should show you which one it is when you plug it in
[16:51] <Yuji1> tsunami: If you know what you're doing, it'd be better to manually do it to make sure, right?
[16:51] <SOF4LNX> IcyPolecat: Also see bridging
[16:51] <Crusher> http://pastebin.com/d20187555 this is what i got when i tried to share a folder on the network....... help pls
[16:51] <mngoldeneagle> Umm... can anyone help me with my blank screen issue?
[16:51] <Yuji1> ikonia: No dir/file.
[16:51] <_pirinto_> Does anyone know if it's possible for  vmware workstation and vmware server to coexist installed on ubuntu?
[16:51] <Yuji1> Oh wait.
[16:51] <Yuji1> Sudo. Ignore.
[16:51] <south_korea> tsunami, avoid grub ? means remove grub ?
[16:51] <ikonia> Crusher I told you how to fix this
[16:52] <needhelp1> Everyone, I need some help with gnome.  Wheni boot my computer i get the desktop background but never get the login screen, just a rotating wait symbol.
[16:52] <tsunami> Yuji1 ...i don't...
[16:52] <ikonia> Crusher what part did I not explain ?
[16:52] <Crusher> ikonia: sory  but it didn't worked
[16:52] <tsunami> south_korea I am avoiding a grub error
[16:52] <tsunami> not avoiding using grub
[16:52] <ikonia> Crusher what did you do
[16:52] <Yuji1> tsunami: Ah...Just let Ubuntu try? Or have you?
[16:52] <Crusher> ikonia: chown root:kailash smb.conf
[16:52] <Paddy_EIRE> south_korea: I am really happy things are working out for you mate.. Nice one :D
[16:52] <south_korea> do you want to re-install grub (?) @ tsunami
[16:52] <Yuji1> tsunami: You could also try updating BIOS?
[16:52] <ikonia> Crusher your not root
[16:52] <IcyPolecat> SOF4LNX: don't want to bridge - want to bond / team. Have one bond interface up - now am trying to get the second online and am having problems
[16:53] <south_korea> Paddy_EIRE, Thank you :D
[16:53] <ikonia> Crusher and you don't change the config file
[16:53] <ikonia> Crusher: you change the directory you want to share
[16:53] <KillGuta> Hey what's that package called that gives you an bar like on Mac?
[16:53] <Yuji1> IcyPolecat: You mean like two dongles to two APs? >D Er...
[16:53] <tsunami> Yuji1 ..last year and needed it manually (no bios update) I forget my specific settings but ill see if this guided partitioner will allow it to work.
[16:53] <Yuji1> KillGuta: No clue. I've wanted it for a while.
[16:53] <south_korea> tsunami, have you try, um.. rescue mode ?
[16:53] <Crusher> ikonia: can u explain the command in detail...i m totally messed up
[16:53] <ikonia> Crusher: it says in the error message "cannot share path /media/Blend/EURO PREDICTION"
[16:53] <tsunami> south_korea I have an empty disk
[16:53] <south_korea> tsunami, have you try, you can re-install grub
[16:54] <IcyPolecat> Yuji1: 2 physical NICs bonded into one virtual nic for resiliance
[16:54] <south_korea> tsunami, have you try, use live-cd(ubuntu)
[16:54] <Yuji1> tsunami: Cross-fingers and try. If it doesn't, I could help but eh..
[16:54] <rothchild> ikonia: just incase it amuses you I just spoke to her and typically (for her organisation) the instructions are wrong, I now have the correct address and it's working
[16:54] <ikonia> Crusher: what is there to explain - change the direcotry you want to share so that you (not root) are the owner
[16:54] <ikonia> rothchild excellent, glad your working
[16:54] <tsunami> south_korea my grub needs its own partition
[16:54] <south_korea> tsunami, have you try, bootable ubuntu-cd i mean
[16:54] <Yuji1> IcyPolecat: You can do that without custom drivers??? :O
[16:54] <Crusher> ikonia: i will try
[16:54] <dromer> hmmm, somehow X can't detect my tv anymore, when I tell nvidia-settings to detect screens the tv blinks for a bit but no results
[16:54] <maek0> will the ubuntu devs push the NVIDIA 177.82 driver out on updates in Intrepid ??
[16:54] <Yuji1> dromer: Select it manually?
[16:54] <south_korea> tsunami, yes
[16:54] <hellboy3> can some tell me why compiz replaced beryl
[16:54] <KillGuta> Yuji1 try Avant-window-navigator !
[16:54] <south_korea> tsunami, of course it needs partition to install
[16:54] <IcyPolecat> Yuji1: yup, or rather the kernel drivers let you do it
[16:54] <dromer> Yuji1: eh? I can't select it if it;s not detected
[16:55] <Dr_willis> !beryl
[16:55] <rothchild> while I'm on though does anyone know how to stop the large balloon message from network manager each time I connect to my wireless AP?
[16:55] <SOF4LNX> IcyPolecat... /sbin/ifconfig bond0 192.168.0.xxx netmask 255.255.255.000
[16:55] <south_korea> tsunami, you just said you have an error when you boot your system right ?
[16:55] <SOF4LNX> /sbin/ifenslave bond0 eth0
[16:55] <SOF4LNX> /sbin/ifenslave bond0 eth1
[16:55] <SOF4LNX> /sbin/route add default gw 192.168.0.xxx
[16:55] <FloodBot3> SOF4LNX: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:55] <Dr_willis> hellboy3,  they merged
[16:55] <hellboy3> ok
[16:55] <Yuji1> IcyPolecat: Egad, serious?! Yay better wireless from...the...neighbors, any way, love aircrack. Is your friend. >.>;
[16:55] <south_korea> tsunami, that means you need to re-install grub
[16:55] <tsunami> south it just needs a dedicated partition in the begining of the drive because my bios is so old it cant search beyond a small section of the disk
[16:55] <south_korea> tsunami, if you formatted your hard-drive already
[16:55] <tsunami> thats what I am doing now
[16:56] <south_korea> tsunami, ok, so do you know how ?
[16:56] <IcyPolecat> SOF4LNX: ok - will try it manually although already have bond0 setup and working - now need bond1 on different subnet
[16:56] <SOF4LNX> IcyPolecat: yes
[16:56] <hellboy3> can i back up my ubuntu hard drive partition into a ntfs drive as a file or folder
[16:56] <south_korea> tsunami, ok ok wait i missed your msg..
[16:56] <Sh3r1ff> tsunami: create a boot partition on the disk
[16:56] <Omar87> Does the "Raising Skinny Elephants Is Utterly Boring" trick still work in Ubuntu 8.10?
[16:57] <dromer> Omar87: it should :P
[16:57] <south_korea> tsunami, hmm..;;
[16:57] <Yuji1> dromer: Trick?
[16:57] <Crusher> ikonia: chown root:kailash Audio       yields nth. Audio is the directory i wanna share
[16:57] <Yuji1> free the fish kind?
[16:57] <IcyPolecat> all I get from the first command is bond1: ERROR while getting interface flasgs: no such device
[16:57] <dromer> Yuji1: eh?
[16:57] <spree> Sh3r1ff my keyboard doesn't have a sysctrl key :/
[16:57] <tsunami> Sh3riff you mind if i pm you?
[16:57] <Crusher> ikonia: is the syntax correct?
[16:57] <Yuji1> dromer: Said some thing along a skinny elephant trick? ???
[16:57] <Sh3r1ff> tsunami: go ahead
[16:57] <south_korea> tsunami, ok now i understood
[16:57] <dromer> Yuji1: I didn't say it, I just replied
[16:57] <spree> !magicnumber
[16:57] <needhelp1>  Everyone, I need some help with gnome.  Wheni boot my computer i get the desktop background but never get the login screen, just a rotating wait symbol.
[16:57] <needhelp1> (11:52:02 AM) PB
[16:57] <south_korea> tsunami, :P
[16:58] <Yuji1> What is it?
[16:58] <south_korea> tsunami, make extra partition for it then ?
[16:58] <Omar87> dromer: because I tried to use it a couple of minutes ago, and it didn't work.. -_-
[16:58] <dromer> Yuji1: google is your bestest friend
[16:58] <spree> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key  <-- what he's talking about with the skinny elephants
[16:58] <ChrisBookwood> Hey - i'm looking for an application which can export and import all my firefox setting, bookmarks, plugins, everything
[16:58] <pronoy> can anyone tell me which music player has a daemon tray icon ???
[16:58] <Yuji1> Ah right.
[16:58] <IcyPolecat> pronoy: most of them. Rythambox and Amarok do
[16:58] <Yuji1> pronoy: I wish Totem did..
[16:59] <dromer> Omar87: ok, wierd, ctrl+alt+sysrq+b should definatly reboot your system, rseiub is just the best way to siconnect all services and stuff iirc
[16:59] <spree> Sh3r1ff that will ONLY WORK if CONFIG_MAGIC_SYSRQ is enabled at kernel compile time
[16:59] <dromer> disconnect
[16:59] <south_korea> tsunami, to make extra partiton for grub, you need to use fdisk
[16:59] <rothchild> ChrisBookwood: http://mozbackup.jasnapaka.com/ google is your firend
[17:00] <pronoy> IcyPolecat: how to activate rythmbox's daemon icon ?
[17:00] <rothchild> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/2109 I've used this too and it's a good'un
[17:00] <netsrot_> Hi, when I try to mount cdrom it chages owner and group to 501 dialout, where do I change this?
[17:00] <Sh3r1ff> pronoy: open it ;)
[17:00] <south_korea> tsunami, i meant to solve your problem, use console cmd, that will be better
[17:00] <Omar87> dromer: I'm trying it right now, it doesn't work.. That's very weird..
[17:00] <SOF4LNX> 'rhythmbox'
[17:00] <dromer> Omar87: I'm not going to try it ;)
[17:00] <dromer> Omar87: but it's very oldskool, maybe the kernel-devs removed it
[17:01] <needhelp1> is there a way to manually start the graphical login window or should it just start with gdm ?
[17:01] <Omar87> dromer: Lol, I didn't say you will. :D
[17:01] <ChrisBookwood> rothchild: yeah, well, not exactly your friend, since it gave you an exe file:D
[17:01] <Tuteras> opa
[17:01] <Tuteras> alguem na area?
[17:01] <ChrisBookwood> rothchild: not to be clever or anything,;)
[17:01] <dromer> so, anyone an idea how I can get X to see my tv again? :(
[17:01] <pronoy> Sh3r1ff: lol thanks :)
[17:02] <Omar87> dromer: Yeah, it's an old trick, but sometimes it's your last resort, I mean, sometimes you just need it.
[17:02] <Sh3r1ff> pronoy: u can use music applet in combination with rythmbox, amongst other players
[17:02] <netsrot_> How do I reset all configuration about cdrom in udev?
[17:02] <IcyPolecat> SOF4LNX: should be there automatically. Or File Close instead of Quit. Or install the PPA version which should support it from the close toolbar button
[17:02] <Sh3r1ff> pronoy: it adds an applet to your panel to control rythmbox
[17:02] <dromer> Omar87: yup, strange that it doesn't work for you
[17:02] <pronoy> Sh3r1ff: ?? other music applet ?
[17:02] <dromer> Omar87: lemme try it for funs ;) I'm running Kubuntu 8.04 btw
[17:03] <rothchild> ChrisBookwood: cool, sorry the first one wasn't the one it was the second one, which is the second google search (what you mean you don't have WINE up and running ;-))
[17:03] <Sh3r1ff> pronoy: it is called music-applet
[17:03] <spree> Sh3r1ff what does this say?: sudo cat /boot/config-2.6.24-21-server|grep CONFIG_MAGIC
[17:03] <SOF4LNX> np
[17:03] <IcyPolecat> SOF4LNX: all I get from the first ifconfig command is bond1: ERROR while getting interface flasgs: no such device
[17:03] <spree> Sh3r1ff what does this say?: sudo cat /boot/config-<latest version>|grep CONFIG_MAGIC
[17:03] <pronoy> Sh3r1ff: no idea what you mean....sorry
[17:04] <Omar87> dromer: I'm trying to play an on-line game called "second life", and this game just keeps strangling my entire system the moment I start controlling my character in it, I try to Raise The Elephants and it just doesn't work..
[17:04] <SOF4LNX> IcyPolecat: setup network interfaces or virtual interfaces so they match your IP/subnet settings first
[17:04] <ChrisBookwood> rothchild: i'm not sure what you mean, but i found this extension, which seem to do the thing: http://customsoftwareconsult.com/extensions/febe/febe.html
[17:04] <ikonia> Crusher you are not the user root
[17:04] <ikonia> Crusher: stop trying to make root the owner
[17:04] <Robespierre> Hello, i'm having trouble getting my splash screen to show, all it shows is the text
[17:04] <IcyPolecat> SOF4LNX: so I need to setup say eth2 to use the subnet I want?
[17:04] <SOF4LNX> IcyPolecat: I would think so, yes
[17:05] <Sh3r1ff> pronoy: it is an applet that lets you contral rythmbox (play, pause, forward, ...) when the rythmbox window is not active
[17:05] <south_korea> ikonia, wanted help tsunami;; but i was short to answer his problem..;;; Bye ~
[17:05] <spree> Omar87 what does this say?: sudo cat /boot/config-<latest version>|grep CONFIG_MAGIC
[17:05] <ikonia> south_korea what ?
[17:05] <south_korea> ikonia, he needs some answer about grub
[17:05] <spree> Omar87 latest version being the most recent filename in that folder
[17:06] <Robespierre> Hello
[17:06] <ikonia> south_korea ok ????
[17:06] <Omar87> spree: It says: "No such file or directory"
[17:06] <Robespierre> my splash screen stopped displaying, all i get is text
[17:06] <Robespierre> i have been trying to get usplash to work
[17:06] <akahig1> my Ibex live CD keeps booting into an initramfs shell instead of the live desktop... is there something I can do to fix that?
[17:06] <south_korea> ikonia, i meant i wanted answer but i'm beginner..;;;; i'm sorry for him;; anyway..bye
[17:07] <spree> Omar87 what does this say?: sudo cat /boot/config-(press the tab key twice to get a list of the files, pick the latest one)|grep CONFIG_MAGIC
[17:08] <dromer> Omar87: worked btw ;)
[17:08] <SOF4LNX> IcyPolecat: pretty cool stuff, let me know when you have bonded :)
[17:09] <IcyPolecat> SOF4LNX: no luck yet. Weird as bond0 was realy easy to setup bond1 is being a total pita
[17:09] <rothchild> ChrisBookwood: yup that FEBE is the one in the second link I posted and it works good. WINE is an application to make windows apps (.exe) run on Linux
[17:09] <erb> what is that command thats similar to that of cp and mv but the syntax is somewhat like if="FILE1" fi="FILE2" ??
[17:09] <SOF4LNX> IcyPolecat: subnet issue maybe. make sure you take the bonds down before bonding up again
[17:09] <spree> Omar87 are you still having trouble? here, type ls /boot/config* pick the latest version filename and type sudo cat /boot/thatfilenameyoujustfound|grep CONFIG_MAGIC
[17:10] <IcyPolecat> erb: dd? if= of=?
[17:10] <Sh3r1ff> erb: dd ?
[17:10] <Omar87> spree: It says "CONFIG_MAGIC_SYSRQ=y"
[17:10] <achadwick> erb: dd
[17:10] <Peter_Swinkels> When trying to run pacman4console the game complains about the terminal resolution and won't work. The manual doesn't tell anything useful, I can't find anything on the internet. I've tried several things in a terminal window (GNOME) and a tty terminal. Do I have to use something like "mode con cols=x rows=y" like you would do in DOS?
[17:10] <IcyPolecat> SOF4LNX: possibly - will try that
[17:10] <erb> thanks alot
[17:11] <FFForever> how do i install apache with php and python support?
[17:11] <SOF4LNX> IcyPolecat: Copy and init script as bonding, then you can do "bonding up/down"
[17:11] <noiz> lol another problem :O when i choose the boor from cd it just starts totaly normaly -.-
[17:11] <Baversjo> Hello, how can I add entries for Vista and XP in GRUB instead of having an option for loading the vista bootloader in GRUB?
[17:11] <SOF4LNX> and/an
[17:11] <spree> Omar87: then yes the elephant trick works
[17:12] <achadwick> Peter_Swinkels: just resize your Terminal window...
[17:12] <Omar87> spree: Strange, it doesn't work with me though..
[17:12] <LoveGuru> Hii have a quick question, i forget to edit a file with sudo permission now when i m gonna save it . i got a stuck with permissions. is there anyhow i can copy all text? i m using " nano " as editor thanks
[17:12] <d0netsFN> hey i was getting an error when i would sudo apt-get update
[17:12] <FlodBoot1> hii guys
[17:13] <d0netsFN> sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/status*
[17:13] <d0netsFN> someone told me to do that
[17:13] <Crusher> :D
[17:13] <d0netsFN> Reading package lists... Error!
[17:13] <d0netsFN> E: Could not open file /var/lib/dpkg/status - open (2 No such file or directory)
[17:13] <d0netsFN> E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
[17:13] <d0netsFN> now i get that
[17:13] <FloodBot3> d0netsFN: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:13] <user_____> hi, i have installed the nautilus-terminal extension. how can you bind it to a keyboard shortcut?
[17:13] <Peter_Swinkels> achadwick, that doesn't work. I set the size of the terminal window (it is displayed in a tooltip while resizing)  to 32x29  as specified by the game
[17:13] <jpds> !aptfix > d0netsFN
[17:13] <Sh3r1ff> LoveGuru: write the file to another location and copy it as root and change permissions
[17:13] <Omar87> spree: What are the buttons I need to press exactly?
[17:14] <spree> Omar87  *** this will cause your system to reboot immediately *** but to test try pressing Alt + SysRq + B
[17:14] <LoveGuru> Sh3r1ff: well its too big.. and it take 3 hours to write :<
[17:15] <Sh3r1ff> LoveGuru: try changing the permissions before saving and change them back afterwards
[17:15] <Omar87> spree: Instead of rebooting, the system takes a snapshot of the desktop.
[17:15] <dromer> Omar87: ctrl+alt+sysrq+<r,s,e,i,u,b>
[17:15] <achadwick> Peter_Swinkels: I can run it fine at 32 rows high, 29 cols wide in gnome-terminal under Hardy.
[17:15] <Baversjo> Is there a way to load the Windows kernel in GRUB?
[17:15] <SOF4LNX> spree: whats this "SysRq" key look like ?
[17:15] <dromer> spree: I thought ctrl was supposed to be in there as well ..
[17:15] <d0netsFN> jpds
[17:15] <Peter_Swinkels> achadwick, I'm using intrepid ibex
[17:15] <spree> !dual-boot
[17:16] <d0netsFN> $ sudo dpkg --configure -a
[17:16] <d0netsFN> dpkg: failed to open package info file `/var/lib/dpkg/status' for reading: No such file or directory
[17:16] <dromer> SOF4LNX: it's usually your printscreen-key
[17:16] <tsunami> Trying to setup my partitions with a boot sector and am having dificulties making decisions on the new partition
[17:16] <SOF4LNX> aha, thanks dromer
[17:16] <d0netsFN> woops , i tried yours too
[17:16] <spree> Baversjo there you go
[17:16] <d0netsFN> $ sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[17:16] <d0netsFN> dpkg: failed to open package info file `/var/lib/dpkg/status' for reading: No such file or directory
[17:16] <FFForever> where is my httpd.conf?, i open /etc/apache2/httpd.conf and its blank :/
[17:16] <Sh3r1ff> tsunami: create /boot as first partition on your disk
[17:16] <Baversjo> spree: Are you sure? I don't want to chain-load the vista boot loader, i want to load XP directly in GRUB
[17:17] <LoveGuru> Sh3r1ff: ya thanks it workout :)
[17:17] <SOF4LNX> FFForever: install "apache2" and some other stuff, somehow (the apache debs are weird)
[17:17] <Sh3r1ff> LoveGuru: don't forget to change the permissions back ;)
[17:17] <Omar87> dromer: Nope, nothing happens...
[17:17] <spree> Baversjo and you never considered typing "dual boot xp linux" in google?
[17:17] <LoveGuru> Sh3r1ff: ya i did :) thanks for notifying me :)
[17:17] <jeremiedunord> y'a personne qui parle francais ?
[17:17] <Flannel> FFForever: Ubuntu uses the debian method of config, all of your configs are collected in various files inside of /etc/apache2/
[17:17] <tsunami> Sh3r1ff, Primary or Logical | what is the minimum size of the disk i can allocate? (or how big is grub?) | ext3? |
[17:17] <Flannel> FFForever: What are you looking to change?
[17:18] <FFForever> SOF4LNX, the apache server is running i see the It Works! message..., i want to change where it sees my document root (i wanna move it to my home dir)
[17:18] <Baversjo> spree: I'm tripple booting now, but I don't want to use the vista boot loader (chainloading). I want to be able to select XP, Vista and Ubuntu directly in GRUB.
[17:18] <rothchild> how do I get rid of the big balloon notification when network manager connects to my wireless?
[17:18] <SOF4LNX> FFForever: but you have a blank httpd.conf ?
[17:18] <dromer> Omar87: what system are you running?
[17:19] <Flannel> FFForever: That'd be in /etc/apache2/sites-available/  but, why not just use userdir?
[17:19] <FFForever> Flannel, because i want localhost to go to /home/chris/Desktop/php XD
[17:19] <Omar87> dromer: Ubuntu 8.10
[17:19] <FFForever> its only for dev anyways....
[17:19] <Peter_Swinkels> achadwich, I see what the problem is, the game specified the required dimensions as "rows,columns" rather than "columsn,rows" as would expect. Do you know how to run the game in a tty terminal?
[17:19] <dromer> Omar87: ok, I'm on 8.04 .. so things might have changed
[17:19] <Sh3r1ff> tsunami: primary, ext3, and take 512MB for boot
[17:19] <cgillogly> question: when i use Connect To Server to connect to my web server as www-data (using public key auth) i cannot create directories and when I open files they open as read-only... permissions on the files are correct...server is 8.04, server is 8.10...any ideas?
[17:19] <Omar87> dromer: that's possible.
[17:20] <Omar87> dromer: Maybe it still works the same way as before, but with a bit different key combination.
[17:20] <dromer> shouldn't
[17:20] <dromer> it's basically a kernel override
[17:21] <ubuntu__> hello
[17:21] <tsunami> Sh3r1ff, how should I allocate the rest of the disk?
[17:21] <dromer> so it's really weird
[17:21]  * dromer reboot to try different nvidia driver
[17:21] <Omar87> dromer: mhmm.
[17:21] <DarkKnight> is ther any tools for building flash
[17:21] <Sh3r1ff> tsunami: like you normally would do
[17:21] <Sh3r1ff> tsunami: create at least a / and a swap partition
[17:21] <tsunami> mount at / or something else?
[17:22] <Sh3r1ff> tsunami: and create perhaps also a partition for /home
[17:22] <atax> Hi all, when adding a new ide-harddisk I can t mount it, because there is no reference to it in /etc/fstab. What program do I have to run to create the fstab entrees?
[17:22] <DarkKnight> is ther any tools for building flash
[17:22] <tsunami> how big should my swap be?
[17:22] <Sh3r1ff> atax: vim ;)
[17:22] <Slart> atax: any text editor
[17:22] <Sh3r1ff> tsunami: take the double of the amount of ram you have
[17:23] <Slart> atax: not joking here.. it might sound cruel but I don't think there's a gui for it
[17:23] <Peter_Swinkels> Does any one know how to run pacman4console in a tty terminal (outside a graphical environment?
[17:23] <atax> hmmm, and where can i see (get an overview) of what storage device are currently plugged in to my pc? (like the diskmgmt.msc on windows)?
[17:23] <SOF4LNX> atax: also search freshmeat.net
[17:23] <Slart> atax: cat /etc/mtab in a terminal will show you currently mounted stuff
[17:24] <IcyPolecat> SOF4LNX: ok giving up for today - will try again tomorrow
[17:24] <FFForever> SOF4LNX, why does it say localhost/cgi-bin/test.py 404 not found when i can see it :/
[17:24] <DarkKnight> is ther any tools for building flash
[17:24] <Guest77908> why wont my computer let me install downloaded games or anything
[17:24] <spree> DarkKnight http://osflash.org/linux
[17:24] <SOF4LNX> IcyPolecat: alright, good luck
[17:24] <Zapa> :
[17:24] <Zapa> XD
[17:24] <Zapa> leaving.... cyaññ
[17:24] <wiijii> Evening all. Got a little issue with sound (Alsa and Pulseaudio) if someone wouldn't mind giving me a hand...
[17:24] <Slart> Guest77908: because you're doing something wrong
[17:24] <Anqu> hi, I have a problem. On my old laptop I could not install ubuntu, because my hd, cd or cd drive were faulty. I thought it was the hd and got another (often used by someone else) laptop and have the same problem, so I think my CD could be broken.
[17:25] <Guest77908>  why wont my computer let me install downloaded games or anything
[17:25] <spree> wiijii it's almost definitely pulseaudio's fault
[17:25] <IcyPolecat> SOF4LNX: thanks - will keep you posted
[17:25] <Anqu> Can I install ubuntu somehow whithout the cd while started as live session_
[17:25] <Slart> Anqu: there is a "check cd" option when you boot with the cd, have you tried it?
[17:25] <wiijii> spree: yeah I assumed that's the case. All went down the pan when I upgraded to 8.10
[17:25] <Anqu> no
[17:25] <SOF4LNX> FFForever: change file/directory owner
[17:26] <wiijii> If I kill X, rmmod snd_hda_intel, then modprobe it, all is well
[17:26] <Guest77908> %C11
[17:26] <atax> Well thanks so far, but in /etc/mtab there will only be mounted stuff, if I just connect a harddisk, how can I find out its name (hda, hdb, hdc). I of course need to know this to make the fstab-entrees!?
[17:26] <Anqu> hm, that wohld be an option, but what can I do if it is faulty?
[17:26] <wiijii> But when I first boot, alsamixer gives me one channel, pulseaudio
[17:26] <spree> wiijii https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PulseAudio
[17:26] <Slart> atax: you can use the Partition Editor to find out what the drive is called
[17:26] <denneb> .fr
[17:26] <denneb> Yo
[17:26] <FFForever> SOF4LNX, i set it 777
[17:26] <alex_s> fhgfhjjghfjkhkj
[17:27] <FFForever> same thing....
[17:27] <spree> wiijii there's a Removal section
[17:27] <donkdonk> how do i set a static ip address?
[17:27] <spree> donkdonk hey!
[17:27] <Guest77908> is there anyway i can reinstall windows without losing all my files
[17:27] <spree> donkdonk ifconfig eth0 inet ipaddress netmask subnet
[17:27] <atax> Slart, ok, that i guess would be step forward, something like fdisk you mean i guess?
[17:27] <donkdonk> spree: hello
[17:27] <donkdonk> not working...
[17:27] <spree> donkdonk explain
[17:28] <spree> donkdonk ifconfig eth0 inet <theip> netmask <thesubnet>
[17:28] <Slart> atax: yes, and this one actually has a gui =).. it's called gparted (Gnome partition editor).. system, administration, partition editor if it's installed.. "sudo apt-get install gparted" to install it if it isn't here
[17:28] <wiijii> Anyone here played with an Arduino at all?
[17:28] <alex_s> is there any way i can install ubuntu  by replacing windows in the same patrtion?
[17:28] <Sh3r1ff> donkdonk: edit /etc/networking/interfaces and chage eth0
[17:28] <donkdonk> spree: i know this. i am getting a "destination: host unreachable." from ping
[17:28] <donkdonk> Sh3r1ff: i did
[17:29] <atax> ok Slart (and the rest of you guys), thanks!
[17:29] <spree> donkdonk i got you on private
[17:29] <Slart> atax: you're welcome
[17:29] <Sh3r1ff> donkdonk: can you ping the default gateway?
[17:29] <wiijii> ipconfig eth0 up?
[17:29] <donkdonk> Sh3r1ff: no
[17:29] <Sh3r1ff> donkdonk: is the interface up?
[17:29] <d0netsFN> ok now i am trying to install sipie ( a sirius player for ubuntu)
[17:30] <d0netsFN> sudo apt-get install mplayer python-setuptools python-wxgtk2.6
[17:30] <d0netsFN> i do that
[17:30] <d0netsFN> Fetched 8456kB in 15s (537kB/s)
[17:30] <d0netsFN> E: Couldn't configure pre-depend libc6 for findutils, probably a dependency cycle.
[17:30] <d0netsFN> and i get that
[17:30] <donkdonk> Sh3r1ff: i guess. i issued the command but i dont actually see where it says "up"
[17:31] <d0netsFN> any ideas?
[17:31] <Sh3r1ff> donkdonk: do ifup eth0
[17:31] <donkdonk> Sh3r1ff: says eth0 already configured
[17:31] <Sh3r1ff> donkdonk: do route add default gw "ip of the default gw"
[17:32] <Vastlee> I'm new to Ubuntu, previous windows uers, I'm trying to get my WiFi to work.  I've downloaded a drive that is supposed to work for my Atheros card called MadWifi, the problem is I don't know how to install it.  Can anyone give me an idea?
[17:32] <Vastlee> driver*
[17:32] <Slart> !wifi | Vastlee, check out this link
[17:32] <kleftisx> Hello, I have upgrade to Ubuntu 8.10 (amd64). And when going to activate desktop effects normal or extra i get the following error: "The Composite extension is not available." any ideas how to solve tis problem?
[17:32] <Dr_willis> Vastlee,  most likely its allready in the package maanger.  check that link and the forums first
[17:32] <Vastlee> Thanks
[17:33] <Slart> kleftisx: try installing  some kind of driver for your graphics card that offers hardware acceleration
[17:34] <Sh3r1ff> donkdonk: can you ping the default gateway now?
[17:34] <kleftisx> Slart: in hardware drivers: The driver is activated and currently in use.
[17:34] <donkdonk> Sh3r1ff: no
[17:35] <Robespierre> Hello, can I have some help getting my splash screen to work again?
[17:35] <tsunami> Is there a benefit to having your file partition divided up between more than just /.  like /home or /dev
[17:35] <spree> donkdonk check ethtool eth0 and mii-tool -v
[17:35] <Sh3r1ff> donkdonk: do a pastebin of route
[17:35] <spree> donkdonk: these check your link settings for duplex, etc
[17:36] <donkdonk> mii-tool -v: operation not permitted
[17:36] <Slart> tsunami: there are some advantages.. /home on a separate partition will save you some trouble when reinstalling.. /var could be put on a separate one since it holds lots of stuff that can get very large..
[17:36] <spree> donkdonk sudo mii-tool -v eth0
[17:36] <Slart> kleftisx: hmm..then I don't really know why it doesn't work.. ati card?
[17:37] <hellboy3> can i dual boot kubuntu with ubuntu
[17:37] <donkdonk> spree: yea, no go
[17:37] <bartho_> i have a big problem, i replaced my windows with ubuntu. now i want to open my windows data partiton, but then i must authorisise myself, but i dont have any password. when i boot with knoppix i can use the partition. what soude i do? i always get after i insert a password: cannot mount volume
[17:37] <spree> donkdonk you're root or a sudoer right?
[17:37] <donkdonk> root
[17:37] <spree> donkdonk and mii-tool isn't working? okay try ethtool eth0
[17:37] <hellboy3> ibartho_ :are u using live cd
[17:38] <kleftisx> Slart: yes Ati X1300
[17:38] <donkdonk> ethtool works, just says link ditected
[17:38] <bartho_> hellboy3 no i installed it
[17:38] <vincent_> how do you run jnlp files?
[17:38] <hellboy3> then u must have set some user name and password
[17:38] <RediXe> I need to some how put the ESC in a file created by nano.    I know I can do CTRL+Shift+U and I can enter in 001B which is the ESC key but it's like it's not reading that I put it in there. Is there anyway to do this?
[17:38] <spree> donkdonk does it support auto-negotiation?
[17:39] <hellboy3> bartho_: u must have set password and username then
[17:39] <donkdonk> spree: does not say anything about that
[17:39] <igorzolnikov> vincent_, have you installed jre?
[17:39] <bartho_> hellboy3 what? i dont understand it.
[17:39] <spree> donkdonk thats weird usually it has like 10-15 lines of output
[17:39] <hellboy3> barthi_ u installed ubuntu right?
[17:39] <spree> donkdonk: do you have more than one networking device on this system
[17:39] <Slart> kleftisx: have you checked the forums? there's probably more ati users out there.. or ask again in here and mention you've got an ati card
[17:39] <bartho_> hellboy3 yes
[17:40] <hellboy3> then u must have set a username and password while installing it ;@nartho_
[17:40] <Wipster> hi, I'm having trouble muting the playback of my microphone through my speakers, in alsamixer I go to playback and reduce mic to 0 and in capture put it up high, but this seems to set playback back to the same level, is there a way to fix this?
[17:40] <kleftisx> Slart: i have already ask in forums, but with the current suggestions the problem is still there. i will try to ask again here. thanks for ur time.
[17:40] <bartho_> hellboy3 yes i did
[17:40] <hellboy3> @bartho_ then did u forget the password
[17:41] <Slart> kleftisx: you're welcome, hope you get it fixed
[17:41] <bartho_> hellboy3 no i type my user password. and nothing happen
[17:41] <RediXe> I need to send my printer the ESC actually and I have no idea how to do that. lpr file.txt prints fine and hence why I am trying to put the ESC in it.
[17:41] <mpalatnik> the ESC?
[17:41] <spree> donkdonk what does ethtool -S eth0 say for your error count
[17:41] <hellboy3> @bartho_: ok got to add remove programs
[17:42] <bartho_> hellboy3 i need to auth at every login so i know the password
[17:42] <donkdonk> its rebooting atm
[17:42] <bartho_> hellboy3 ok and then?
[17:42] <hellboy3> @bartho_ ok then search for ntfs configuration tool
[17:42] <hellboy3> @bartho_ :download it
[17:42] <StrikeTeam> hey guys anyone know how to fix the issue with EVOLUTION MAIL, that when u have a HTML signature setup, the next time you open evo mail and type a new message, the signature is all in HTML code???
[17:42] <spree> donkdonk you never answered as to whether there were multiple NIC's
[17:42] <Vastlee> According to this documentation my Atheros Wireless card should work "out of the box".  But I don't even see it as an available device in Linux.
[17:43] <donkdonk> spree: just one
[17:43] <spree> donkdonk you'll need to reenter than network information btw it didnt save
[17:43] <vincent_> igorzolnikov can you install that from the repos?
[17:43] <donkdonk> i got distracted. i have other problems now
[17:43] <bartho_> hellboy3 installed
[17:44] <bartho_> hellboy3 when i start it it find a device
[17:44] <hellboy3> now go to system tools and run ntfs configuration utility @bartho_
[17:44] <NicEXE> I can't navigate to http://rapidshare.com unless i type http://www.rapidshare.com (www is the difference) How can I fix this?
[17:44] <bartho_> hellboy3 what mount point shoud i add?
[17:44] <spree> donkdonk one torubleshooting question: has this NIC ever worked in this current configuration of this system before
[17:44] <hellboy3> @bartho_ : any name
[17:45] <spree> man Nexuiz is hella fun
[17:45] <mikebeecham> hi guys...I cant seem to empty the recycle bin of a folder.  Inside the folder is another folder, called ".Deps".  Can anyone help please?#
[17:45] <donkdonk> spree: this is vmware client I just installed. it was on dhcp and it worked fine. i tried to change it to a diffrent network and a static network and its not working
[17:45] <bartho_> hellboy3 then i go into the folder /media/name and there is nothing
[17:46] <Slart> mikebeecham: you can find the folder and delete it using the terminal..
[17:46] <igorzolnikov> vincent_ i mean sun-java6-jre
[17:46] <bartho_> hellboy3 aahhh but i see the error: only root can mount ....
[17:46] <hellboy3> @bartho_ no drive is shown on ur desktop now
[17:46] <mikebeecham> Slart...would you mind guiding me in that?
[17:46] <Slart> mikebeecham: sure
[17:46] <mikebeecham> Slart: thanks mate
[17:46] <spree> donkdonk in that case the issue might not be ubuntu it might be the vmware bridge
[17:46] <Slart> mikebeecham: you can try something else first.. might be easier
[17:46] <donkdonk> well i am a retard
[17:46] <bartho_> hellboy3 what must i do that not only the root can do this
[17:47] <donkdonk> the vmware host is not on the same network that the guest needs to be on
[17:47] <mikebeecham> Slart...would it help on PM?
[17:47] <Slart> mikebeecham: install "trash-cli".. "sudo apt-get install trash-cli"
[17:47] <mikebeecham> here is fine though also
[17:47] <Dr_willis> !info trash-cli
[17:47] <Slart> mikebeecham: nah, the channel is pretty calm at the moment.. if it's ok with you?
[17:47] <hellboy3> @bartho_ : go to places :do u see ur drive there
[17:47] <spree> donkdonk i keep telling you that
[17:47] <gavagai> Once in awhile after my laptop suspends the keyboard and mouse don't work.  not often, but sometimes.  it just happened and i noticed that there was some text on the screen about anacron.  does anyone know about a problem with anacron locking up the keyboard and mouse?  i can fix it by suspending the laptop again and bringing it back, but i'd like to figure out the problem.
[17:47] <Dr_willis> I need to mention that one to the gyys at work. :)
[17:47] <mikebeecham> Slart: of course :D
[17:47] <mikebeecham> Slart: installing now
[17:47] <bartho_> yes
[17:47] <bartho_> hellboy3 yes
[17:47] <mikebeecham> Slart: done installing
[17:47] <sfire> gavagai: I have that same problem occasionally
[17:48] <hellboy3> @bartho_ so it worked or not
[17:48] <Meshach> Hello all
[17:48] <eraevion> hi
[17:48] <sfire> gavagai: I have found its when I touch the mouse before its up and running
[17:48] <eraevion> i have a problem with eee pc
[17:48] <rhigby> hello
[17:48] <eraevion> (yes, xandros..)
[17:48] <eraevion> how can I reinstall system completely?
[17:48] <gavagai> sfire, interesting.  i may have been resting my hand on the trackpad
[17:48] <Slart> mikebeecham: ok, open a terminal.. you now have a couple of new commands that handles the trash can.. one is "empty-trash".. try running it
[17:48] <eraevion> I have a 2gb sd card
[17:48] <Meshach> eraevion: Format and reinstall
[17:48] <eraevion> and I need help, like immediately
[17:48] <sfire> gavagai: thats the same thing I do sometimes
[17:48] <gavagai> i'll stop doing that and maybe this will go away
[17:48] <Dr_willis> !eee
[17:48] <bartho_> hellboy3 i always see the drive. but i only can mount it as root. what must i do that i always can use it with my user account?
[17:48] <mikebeecham> Slart: didnt work
[17:49] <sfire> gavagai: however I don't have a solution :(
[17:49] <Slart> mikebeecham: ok, try running it as root "sudo empty-trash"
[17:49] <donkdonk> anyone know what /dev/rtc is?
[17:49] <gavagai> it's not a big deal.  it would be if i couldn't fix it by just closing the screen again
[17:49] <mikebeecham> Slart: nope
[17:49] <mikebeecham> folder is still there
[17:49] <Meshach> eraevion: To reinstall, all you have to do is reformat your hard disk and reinstall ubuntu..
[17:49] <tr3ei> hi... :) i have a simple question :) (i think) : How do i auto mount my NTFS partitions ? I would prefer a name of a file to edit (and the location for that file) or... a graphical interface, if something like this exists
[17:49] <needhelp1> Can someone please help me for a min, I am unable to get a login screen after starting ubuntu.  I get the background and a mouse cursor and nothing else.  PLEASE HELP
[17:49] <Slart> mikebeecham: hmm.. ok.. well, it was worth a try
[17:49] <eraevion> Meshach, but how?
[17:49] <Dr_willis> donkdonk,  real time clock perhaps...
[17:49] <donkdonk> Dr_willis: well yes, but...
[17:49] <eraevion> Meshach, I dont have cd/dvd, just sd card
[17:50] <hellboy3> @bartho_ so u are not able to mount them ,well then i relly have no cllue ,i mean ur doing everything right
[17:50] <lorenzo> hi, i installed kubuntu desktop on my Ibex just tro try it out. now i would like to remove it, but if i mark the package in synaptic it says it only will remove a 49kb package. how do i remove all of KDE without messing up my ubuntu? thanks
[17:50] <Meshach> eraevion: Follow this link http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/ubuntu-help/114937-how-format-disks-re-install-ubuntu.html
[17:50] <NicEXE> I can't navigate to http://rapidshare.com unless i type http://www.rapidshare.com (www is the difference) How can I fix this?
[17:50] <Slart> mikebeecham: try starting nautilus as root "gksudo nautilus"
[17:50] <jacob_> why wont it let me install sony acid beat maker
[17:50] <Vastlee> This is the 3rd time I've tried switching to Ubuntu from Windows, and this is the 3rd time I've been unable to do so because I can't get my wireless card installed.
[17:50] <mikebeecham> Slart: there
[17:50] <zaishaza> hi, is there an easy way to change the screen resolution without messing around with xorg.conf? the options in the preferences menu are no good.
[17:50] <Southern_Gentlem> LjL, set in to the joint office please
[17:51] <Southern_Gentlem> step
[17:51] <Slart> mikebeecham: be careful with this window.. you can do very nasty stuf with it
[17:51] <needhelp1> Can someone please help me for a min, I am unable to get a login screen after starting ubuntu.  I get the background and a mouse cursor and nothing else.  PLEASE HELP
[17:51] <mikebeecham> Slart: will do only what you say :D
[17:51] <sfire> NicEXE: a easy way would be to create a entry in the hosts file point rapidshare.com to the correct place (I'm sure there is a better way though)
[17:51] <SOF4LNX> needhelp1: Hosed HD ?
[17:51] <Slart> mikebeecham: go to /home/<yourusername>/.local/
[17:51] <Guest91291>  why wont it let me install sony acid beat make
[17:51] <needhelp1> SOF4LNX: no ..everything else is working just no graphical login screen
[17:52] <Oprtz2> i delete the trash icon by mistake, how to get back the trash icon ?
[17:52] <mikebeecham> Slart: there.  there is a folder called share
[17:52] <SOF4LNX> needhelp1: Hit CTRL + ALT + Backspace
[17:52] <Slart> mikebeecham: yes, and inside that one is a folder called Trash
[17:52] <rhigby> Has anybody has an issue with the f1 -f6 console screen being black, but letting me issue commands?
[17:52] <needhelp1> SOF4LNX: goes back to the same screen
[17:52] <mikebeecham> Slart: yes
[17:52] <SOF4LNX> needhelp1: CTRL + ALT + F1 or F7 ?
[17:52] <cognitiaclaeves> is there a channel on freenode for help with legal issues (such as understanding the GPL and how it might relate to your project?)
[17:52] <bananaman> hi i need a little help for ubuntu
[17:52] <Slart> mikebeecham: and inside Trash there are two folders, files and info.. delete anything in these folders
[17:52] <rhigby> Yes.
[17:52] <rhigby> I just get a black screen
[17:52] <mr_polite> !ask
[17:53] <SOF4LNX> needhelp1: Then you can check /var/log/messages for the error
[17:53] <Meshach> eraevion: Follow this link to install linux from bootable sd card
[17:53] <bananaman> i deleted my taskbar by accident
[17:53] <Meshach> eraevion: http://wiki.gpl-devices.org/wiki/Installing_Linux_on_booting_SD_card
[17:53] <mikebeecham> Slart: you're a star!!!
[17:53] <bananaman> how can i get it back?
[17:53] <mikebeecham> emptied it
[17:53] <Slart> mikebeecham: you might want to press Ctrl+H to show hidden files
[17:53] <Slart> mikebeecham: ah.. it worked?
[17:53] <mikebeecham> Slart: yessir
[17:53] <mikebeecham> thanks SO much
[17:53] <mr_polite> bananaman: you're referring to teh gnome panel?
[17:53] <Slart> mikebeecham: sweet.. you're welcome
[17:53] <NicEXE> I can't navigate to http://rapidshare.com unless i type http://www.rapidshare.com (www is the difference) How can I fix this?
[17:53] <mikebeecham> have a pint on me
[17:53] <Oprtz2> i delete the trash icon by mistake, how to get back the trash icon ?
[17:53] <Slart> mikebeecham: don't forget to close that nautilus window when you're done
[17:53] <Meshach> NicEXE: Simple fix: type www before the domain name
[17:54] <mr_polite> bananaman: are you referring to the gnome panel?
[17:54] <tr3ei> Auto mount NTFS => HOW ?
[17:54] <bananaman> yep
[17:54] <jimcooncat> on ubuntu-server, can I simply install something that detects a usb drive and mounts it under /mnt or /media?
[17:54] <libervisco> Hi
[17:54] <bananaman> the gone-panel
[17:54] <kri> ./configure -prefix=/usr –bindir=/usr/bin –sbindir=/usr/sbin =  error: invalid variable name: –bindir
[17:54] <Slart> Oprtz2: right click on the panel.. "Add to panel", find the trashcan and click ok
[17:54] <bananaman> i deleted it
[17:54] <kri> ?
[17:54] <mr_polite> bananaman: did you delete both of them?
[17:54] <libervisco> I have an issue with totem and mp3 playback, I can't move the slider to change song position
[17:54] <bananaman> just the panel at the top
[17:54] <Slart> jimcooncat: if nothing is broken usb sticks are already mounted in /media
[17:55] <everything_> What is a good GUI FTP server for ubuntu?
[17:55] <Slart> jimcooncat: ah.. server.. sorry..
[17:55] <mr_polite> bananaman: right click the bottom panel and click New Panel
[17:55] <Slart> !ftp
[17:55] <jimcooncat> Slart: on my desktop it is, not hte server
[17:55] <bananaman> ok
[17:55] <Slart> !ftpd
[17:55] <Meshach> everything_: Filezilla
[17:55] <NicEXE> Meshach: I have to work with around 100 files at the time. this does not fix my problem
[17:55] <SOF4LNX> bananaman. gnome-panel ... Then you had to answer a question that asked "Do you want to delete this panel". And now you miss it ? :=)
[17:55] <Oprtz2> Slart: ahhh cool, trash icon is back, but its not inside the 4 desktop at right cornor
[17:55] <Vastlee> Can someone please tell me how to install the MadWifi drivers?  My Atheros wifi card isn't showing up as a device like my ethernet is.
[17:55] <mr_polite> bananaman: you'll need to reconfigure the panel that should appear that the top of the screen
[17:55] <bananaman> how?
[17:55] <SOF4LNX> bah
[17:55] <Vastlee> I've downloaded and extracted the latest MadWifi drivers, I just don't know how to install them.
[17:55] <spree> Vastlee there's a google on that
[17:55] <everything_> meshach, they dont 'ahve a server for linux i believe or not at least that you can get with apt-get
[17:55] <jimcooncat> Slart: you cogitate faster than I can type
[17:56] <faryshta> Vastlee, I will help you on personal messages.
[17:56] <bananaman> i got empty taskbar
[17:56] <mr_polite> bananaman: after you create the new panel, right click it and select Add to Panel
[17:56] <Slart> Oprtz2: you can move it if you want.. you can right click on almost anything on the panel and uncheck "lock" and it will make way for you
[17:56] <Meshach> NicEXE: Follow this link http://www.crazyengineers.com/forum/general-help/7647-why-do-i-have-type-www-browsers-address-bar-access-google.html
[17:56] <spree> Vastlee somebody asked that like 20 minutes ago search on google its in the top 5 if you search for that card's name + ubuntu
[17:56] <bananaman> and then..
[17:56] <mr_polite> bananaman: its not a taskbar, its a panel
[17:56] <Oprtz2> Slart:  okie, thanks dude
[17:56] <Meshach> everything_: Try this; sudo apt-get install filezilla
[17:56] <bananaman> ok sry
[17:56] <mr_polite> right click it and select add to panel to choose what you want to add
[17:56] <bananaman> i was a windows user :S
[17:57] <SOF4LNX> tsktsk
[17:57] <mr_polite> its ok, we're were all once lost
[17:57] <bananaman> then after add to panel?
[17:57] <mr_polite> you choose what you want from teh window that pops up
[17:57] <rhigby> I am having issues with a black screen on the f1-f6 consoles.  Anyone know what would cause this?
[17:57] <everything_> Meshach, this will get me the server and client?
[17:57] <jimcooncat> I see usbmount package, but it's not installed on my desktop either
[17:57] <bananaman> what do i add now?
[17:57] <mr_polite> what do you want?
[17:57] <KarlsBerg> Hello,
[17:57] <mr_polite> its up to you now
[17:58] <bananaman> How can i do that?
[17:58] <SOF4LNX> bananaman: if you want to add a new panel you dont select "new panel", you select "fish eyes" :=)
[17:58] <jimcooncat> rhigby: possibly video mode problems?
[17:58] <bananaman> :)
[17:58] <mr_polite> i have gnome menu, the user switcher and the logout button on mine
[17:58] <SOF4LNX> hehe
[17:58] <KarlsBerg> someone can explain me please why since i connect the fisrt time my usb mouse, now the touchpad of the laptop not working
[17:58] <mr_polite> did a window pop up when you lcicked add to panel?
[17:58] <Meshach> everything_: Excuse me sorry, I just looked into it and you can't have server version, I'm sorry for the inconvience.
[17:58] <KarlsBerg> ubuntu 8.10 (Aspire one)
[17:58] <rhigby> jimcooncat: My GUI is working great, and I can issues commands...
[17:58] <bananaman> just what i needet a fish :S
[17:58] <Meshach> !ftp | everything_
[17:59] <bananaman> how can i add it back?
[17:59] <KillGuta> Anyone know of a good iso mounter (preferably with an GUI nooby friendly :) )
[17:59] <bananaman> i miss it so much =)
[17:59] <mr_polite> you highlight it in the add to panel window and click "add"
[17:59] <everything_> Meshach, i need a server not a client this is interesting
[17:59] <SOF4LNX> ubottu: "FileZilla" - Has nice FTPES
[17:59] <SOF4LNX> yes
[17:59] <SOF4LNX> ad
[17:59] <SOF4LNX> d
[17:59] <Slart> KillGuta: there is a gnome iso mounter.. I don't like it myself though..
[17:59] <FloodBot3> SOF4LNX: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:59] <SOF4LNX> 3 == ok > x !1
[17:59] <KillGuta> Slart you know how to use it? :)
[18:00] <{^KinG^}> alx@alx-b0x:~/Vídeos$ mp4ize El_zoologico_de_morelia_la_verdad.avi
[18:00] <{^KinG^}> Couldn't figure out aspect ratio.
[18:00] <{^KinG^}> alx@alx-b0x:~/Vídeos$
[18:00] <rhigby> jimcooncat: I am not that well versed on working with drivers in linux.  I too and a MS convert.  And I am running Intel 915 for video, I believe.
[18:00] <{^KinG^}> why i see that kinda
[18:00] <FloodBot3> {^KinG^}: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:00] <Slart> !info gisomount
[18:00] <bananaman> Pls can somebody of 1451 ppl tell me how can i get my gnome-panel back???
[18:00] <KillGuta> thanks Slart!
[18:00] <Slart> KillGuta: I think I tried it once.. I find it easier to write the line in the terminal
[18:00] <SOF4LNX> bananaman: eat some more bananajamma ?
[18:00] <mr_polite> bananaman: i just told you
[18:00] <bananaman> :S
[18:00] <SOF4LNX> ;)
[18:00] <Meshach> everything_: if you need a server look at this https://help.ubuntu.com/6.06/ubuntu/serverguide/C/ftp-server.html
[18:01] <bananaman> what do i add to the panel?
[18:01] <SOF4LNX> puhleze
[18:01] <faryshta> bananaman, I also had your issue. I could never fix it on Hardy.
[18:01] <Slart> !info gmountiso | KillGuta, wow, there's two..
[18:01] <bananaman> :'(
[18:01] <faryshta> What I done was install Xfce and forget about GNome.
[18:01] <spree> bananaman type Alt+F2 and type in gnome-panel
[18:01] <bananaman> ok
[18:01] <bananaman> and then
[18:01] <spree> and then press enter
[18:02] <bananaman> ok
[18:02] <mr_polite> he deleted a panel and wants it back
[18:02] <mr_polite> gnome-panel is running
[18:02] <r3dxp> im trying to copy all of the contents of this WOW game dvd into a folder in my external harddrive.. what command would i have to use?
[18:02] <Meshach> bananaman: Here is a link i ran into this problem yesterday http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=980167
[18:02] <bananaman> ok
[18:02] <slashzul> My ubuntu workstation has no printertool what package would that be under?
[18:02] <jimcooncat> rhigby: I wish I could help you more; video's not really my thing. I do see a package called "console-setup" that might apply
[18:02] <Meshach> Anyone have any experience with python programming?
[18:03] <spree> Meshach #python
[18:03] <_Andrew> When I right click on a file and sign it do I upload the .sig with the binary? How do I check the binary with the .sig?
[18:03] <SOF4LNX> bananaman: Next answer is You misspelled it.
[18:03] <spree> Meshach bye
[18:03] <Meshach> spree: Thanks
[18:03] <rhigby> jimcooncat: I will check it out.  Thanks for the help though.
[18:03] <r3dxp> :x
[18:03] <Meshach> spree: You trying to get rid of me :D
[18:03] <bananaman> sry
[18:03] <spree> Meshach stay if you want but no python
[18:03] <Meshach> spree: No problem, I'll ttyl
[18:04] <r3dxp> what syntax would i have to use to copy dvd to my hd?
[18:04] <bananaman> ok i got only the applicatons
[18:04] <bananaman> and what about the clock?
[18:05] <_Andrew> r3dxp: did you try a program like dvd::rip ?
[18:05] <bananaman> and the other stuff
[18:05] <KarlsBerg> someone can explain me please why since i connect the fisrt time my usb mouse, now the touchpad of the laptop not working in Ubuntu 8.10
[18:05] <SOF4LNX> Yeyclock
[18:05] <bananaman> ok
[18:05] <_Andrew> r3dxp: It's in add/remove programs
[18:05] <spree> r3dxp the easy way is to use deeveedee
[18:05] <spree> r3dxp it should be built in
[18:05] <r3dxp> :\
[18:05] <hwilde> !dvd > r33
[18:06] <hwilde> !dvd > r3dxp
[18:06] <martin__> karlsberg, have you checked mouse settings for options?
[18:06] <rrittenhouse> I'm using Ubuntu 8.04 Server and I am using an SSH key to connect to my webserver as www-data. Everything comes up as read only and I am unable to use nautilus to create folders or edit files. Any ideas?
[18:06] <spree> r3dxp it's DeVeDe sorry
[18:06] <spree> !dvd
[18:06] <r33> hwilde ?
[18:06] <KarlsBerg> martin_, of course not
[18:06] <bananaman> what else to add to the gnome-bar?
[18:06] <spree> r33 he typoed
[18:06] <hwilde> r33, autocomplete for r3dxp
[18:06] <r33> oh
[18:06] <KarlsBerg> as whats
[18:06] <hwilde> how many r3* do we have
[18:07] <SOF4LNX> bananaman: the magick eyes! :=)
[18:07] <bananaman> :)
[18:07] <bananaman> they look scary :S
[18:07] <r3dxp> lol
[18:07] <r3dxp> \
[18:07] <KarlsBerg> martii, go check
[18:07] <SOF4LNX> Lol
[18:07] <_Andrew> When I right click on a file and sign it how do I check the binary with the .sig?
[18:08] <hwilde> what are the best and worst parts about Intrepid so far ?
[18:08] <Masterkiller> so i did an export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-4.1 but it still shows up as 4.3 do i need to do an env-update or something for this to take effect?
[18:08] <r3dxp> video card driver sucks for me
[18:08] <mr_polite> hwilde: worst: no legacy nvidia support
[18:08] <r3dxp> i am not liking this so far
[18:08] <r3dxp> :(
[18:08] <hwilde> mr_polite, I have a new nvidia 8600gts :)
[18:08] <rrittenhouse> I'm using Ubuntu 8.04 Server and I am using an SSH key to connect to my webserver as www-data. Everything comes up as read only and I am unable to use nautilus to create folders or edit files. Any ideas?
[18:08] <mr_polite> hwilde: good on ya. nvidia thanks you for your money
[18:09] <SOF4LNX> r3dxp: dvdrip ?
[18:09] <hwilde> rrittenhouse, www-data only has permissions on certain folders like /var/www
[18:09] <spree> rrittenhouse sounds like your remote server has permissions issues
[18:09] <spree> yeah what hwilde just said
[18:09] <mr_polite> my mx440 work just fine for what i need, but its broken in 8.10
[18:09] <rrittenhouse> spree, hwilde The perms appear to be correct. I'm thinking it may be a more complicated issue.
[18:10] <SOF4LNX> r3dxp: there are lots of those apps around for you to google
[18:10] <mr_polite> should i buy a new video card just for working drivers?
[18:10] <hwilde> rrittenhouse, ls -l /var/www   is it owned by www-data?   cd there and try to make a folder.
[18:10] <mr_polite> or stick with the LTS release of Ubuntu until the driver issue for my hardware is sorted out
[18:10] <hwilde> mr_polite, who needs justification to buy new hardware
[18:10] <Otto_> any1 experience with ubuntu & joikuspot ?
[18:10] <spree> rrittenhouse i was about to type something similar. hwilde will help you i'm deferring to him
[18:10] <rrittenhouse> hwilde, /var/www is owned by root BUT i'm editing a folder under www
[18:11] <rrittenhouse> which is owned by www-data
[18:11] <hwilde> rrittenhouse, ok so that works right ?
[18:11] <Masterkiller> i have installed gcc 4.1 (default is 4.3) but when i try to compile this kernel it keeps using 4.3 even when I type CC=/usr/bin/gcc-4.1 make  any help?
[18:11] <rootrot> How do  i mount this .mdf file?  david@IceWeasel:~/Desktop/Deus Ex GOTY$ dir
[18:11] <rootrot> Deus\ Ex\ GOTY.mdf  Deus\ Ex\ GOTY.mds
[18:11] <SOF4LNX> rrittenhouse: why not login as root over that ssh session and be done with it ?
[18:11] <rrittenhouse> hwilde, /var/www/joomla is owned by www-data and I am not able to create a folder or edit anything there
[18:11] <spree> hwilde could be his file mod's
[18:12] <loopkick> 198.136.32.82:80
[18:12] <SOF4LNX> rrittenhouse: user and group owner ? .. thats odd
[18:12] <hwilde> rrittenhouse, type in "whoami"
[18:12] <spree> FYI, setting your web content read only is generally an excellent idea
[18:13] <rrittenhouse> hwilde, When we SSH in its fine! It's only when we mount it with GVFS
[18:13] <hwilde> rrittenhouse, ah you did not say GVFS   that is obviously your issue there :)
[18:13] <rrittenhouse> lol ;) sorry
[18:13] <SOF4LNX> spree: or better yet, read only by everone else but the webistrator :=)
[18:13] <Omar87> Where do I find the drivers for my built-in Bluetooth device?
[18:13] <Meshach> Well, I got my python script working. Yipee!
[18:14] <spree> SOF4LNX i disagree. Read only for everybody and if you want to modify it you make it writeable
[18:14] <SOF4LNX> In the everwebz noone can hear you laugh :=)
[18:14] <quibbler> Meshach, congrats
[18:14] <rhigby_> Is anybody here good with video?
[18:14] <SOF4LNX> spree: good for webmasters i think
[18:14] <mohamad> hello guys
[18:14] <rhigby_> drivers that is...
[18:14] <Meshach> quibbler: Thanks, ubuntu has great support!
[18:14] <mohamad> my firefox is always starting in offline mode
[18:14] <Rob> Is it possible to update OpenOffice 3.0 on Ubuntu 8.10?
[18:14] <mohamad> anyone can help?
[18:15] <SOF4LNX> press "online" :)
[18:15] <Meshach> mohamad: Hello, go to file and uncheck "work offline"
[18:15] <spree> SOF4LNX good to protect your content from you making some sort of disasterous mistake
[18:15] <hwilde> rrittenhouse, do you have "errors=remount-ro" in your /etc/fstab ?   it is probably getting errors and remounting the entire fs in read-only mode
[18:15] <rrittenhouse> hwilde, I have a desktop machine that I can connect to with GVFS and I can create folders their respective home dir
[18:15] <Omar87> mohamad: Where r u from?
[18:15] <SOF4LNX> spree: ftp access to sites is standard.
[18:15] <mohamad> leb
[18:15] <mohamad> you?
[18:15] <Rob> Is it possible to update OpenOffice 3.0 on Ubuntu 8.10?
[18:15] <Omar87> mohamad: Jordan/ :)
[18:16] <hwilde> !ot > Omar87
[18:16] <rrittenhouse> hwilde, I'm using the "places -> connect to server" feature..
[18:16] <hwilde> rrittenhouse, sorry I thought you had an ssh and keys questions.  I don't know about gvfs.  it is probably getting errors on mount and that is why it's read-only
[18:16] <SOF4LNX> Ubåttu: maybe theres a social channel ?
[18:16] <hwilde> !offtopic
[18:16] <yates> what's the package command to search for an application?
[18:16] <yates> the command-line version
[18:17] <spree> SOF4LNX i'm working on a script that automatically makes the files writeable when an FTP user logs in and makes them read-only when they log out
[18:17] <yates> ,apt
[18:17] <hwilde> yates, aptitude search <packagenamehere>
[18:17] <Rob> Is it possible to update OpenOffice 3.0 on Ubuntu 8.10?
[18:17] <hwilde> yates, do you know about the tab key?  type in apt and hit tab twice
[18:17] <needhelp> Hello, after I updated my system, the network doesn't work on that computer. Here are the settings: http://paste.ubuntu.com/71433/. Any suggestions ?
[18:17] <KillGuta> Anyone know an memory editing program such as Cheat Engine but for linux?
[18:17] <inSanity_> Rob: yes it is
[18:17] <KillGuta> I want to hack Windows programs, not linux
[18:18] <SOF4LNX> apt-cache search package
[18:18] <SOF4LNX> man apt-cache
[18:18] <Rob> inSanity_: how would I do it? lol
[18:18] <SOF4LNX> odd they havnt merged those apt-get and apt-cache etc yet.
[18:18] <inSanity_> Rob: download the deb packages from the OO site
[18:18] <SOF4LNX> Rob: apt-get update openoffice
[18:18] <rockyrock> is there any list for the phones that are supported under Ubuntu 8.10 to use the 3G??? Is iphone supported?
[18:18] <inSanity_> and install them
[18:18] <Rob> Thanks
[18:18] <yates> hwilde, SOF4LNX: thanks
[18:18] <SOF4LNX> np
[18:18] <SOF4LNX> np
[18:19] <hwilde> rockyrock, did you google this at all?    https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone
[18:19] <inSanity_> SOF4LNX : is the package recently updated then?
[18:19] <LoveGuru> Hi, Newbie Question.. im Looking for " iptables" help. wanna learn it. is there anyone can help with that?
[18:19] <LoveGuru> !iptable
[18:19] <SOF4LNX> rhythmbox and ipod/phone works nicely
[18:19] <hwilde> !iptables | LoveGuru
[18:19] <Omar87> Where do I find drivers for my bluetooth device/
[18:19] <Omar87> ?
[18:19] <hwilde> !bluetooth | Omar87
[18:20] <rockyrock> hwilde: nope
[18:20] <SOF4LNX> inSanity_: to have and what to know is it was most likely so :)
[18:20] <rockyrock> hwilde: i'm just asking cuz i wanna buy a new phone but i want it to be supported under Ubuntu 8.10
[18:20] <hwilde> rockyrock, google "iphone +ubuntu"
[18:20] <rockyrock> hwilde: maybe i'll buy a sonyericsson ;)
[18:20] <inSanity_> SOF4LNX: what is this? a quiz? :p
[18:20] <rockyrock> hwilde: i dunno yet
[18:20] <hwilde> rockyrock, move to singapore and get a phone that runs linux
[18:20] <Rob> inSanity_: how do I open the deb package with installer?
[18:20] <LoveGuru> hwilde: This page does not exist yet. You can create a new empty page, or use one of the page templates
[18:20] <hwilde> Rob, dpkg -i
[18:21] <SOF4LNX> inSanity_: No, only sanity my friend :)
[18:21] <hwilde> LoveGuru, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo
[18:21] <LoveGuru> hwilde: thanks.
[18:21] <KomiaPoika> hi
[18:22] <KomiaPoika> how can i mount a install cd iso in nfs in ubuntu?
[18:22] <rhigby_> In 8.10 is there a gui that will let me configure my video card directly?
[18:22] <FFForever> how can i stop apache/mysql from auto booting at start?
[18:22] <Slart> rhigby_: if you have an nvidia card you can use nvidia-settings
[18:23] <Omar87> When I hit "lspci | grep blue", I don't get anything. Does this mean that my bluetooth device is not recognized by the system?
[18:23] <Slart> KomiaPoika: type !mount here in the channel for some wisdom from the bot.. what kind of install cd is it?
[18:23] <rhigby_> Slart: I use a laptop, Intel chipset card
[18:23] <soundray> FFForever: 'sudo update-rc.d servicename remove' (see man update-rc.d)
[18:23] <FFForever> kk
[18:23] <rootrot> How do i mount this .mdf?: david@IceWeasel:~/Desktop/Deus Ex GOTY\Deus\ Ex\ GOTY.mdf
[18:23] <Slart> rhigby_: what kind of stuff are you looking to configure?
[18:24] <rhigby_> if I hit alt-ctrl-f1 I get a black screen
[18:24] <rhigby_> all f keys actually.
[18:24] <ubuntu> >charset iso-8859-15
[18:24] <Slart> rootrot: convert it to an iso using mdf2iso, then mount as usual
[18:24] <Slart> !info mdf2iso
[18:25] <t0lkman2> hey ppl, i use ubuntu, how can i define the place where window opens?
[18:25] <t0lkman2> my pidgin's windows open in top-left corner always
[18:25] <Slart> rhigby_: not really sure if there is anything you can do about that.. but there might be someone else in the channel who knows better
[18:25] <admin_masu3701> anybody...can someone help me with my system...i cant suspend it...when i do it stop at a black screen with alot writings
[18:25] <dvyjones> My web stopped working :( Everything on the net works, I can connect to SSH to chat here, read my mail, connect to IM, but everything that's on port 80 doesn't work (I think, haven't tested websites on non-80 port)... Any ideas on fixing it? It has happened before.
[18:25] <Odd-rationale> t0lkman2: try using devilspie
[18:25] <Odd-rationale> !info devilspie | t0lkman2
[18:25] <t0lkman2> thanks
[18:26] <SOF4LNX> dvyjones: what did you Do! :) .. firewall ?
[18:26] <Omar87> My bluetooth device doesn't seem to be recognized by the system. Please help.
[18:26] <dvyjones> I don't think I've set up any firewalls...
[18:26] <matteo_> hi all, i have no sound in firefox flash videos since i upgraded to INTREPID IBEX any tips?
[18:26] <rhigby_> Slart: That is cool... I have been reading the ubuntu forums trying to figure it out
[18:26] <loopkick> hello
[18:26] <rhigby_> Slart: I can issue commands, so I know the console is up, just a black screen
[18:27] <soundray> dvyjones: can you check with 'env | grep -i http' whether you have any proxies set?
[18:27] <hwilde> dvyjones, try in a command line  "wget www.ubuntu.com"   does it work ?
[18:27] <matthew> anyone have a good recipe for chocolate chip cookies ?
[18:27] <norbur> join #networking
[18:27] <hwilde> !offtopic > matthew
[18:27] <dvyjones> soundray: Nothing there...
[18:27] <t0lkman2> also not really important question, why can't i resize input place in pidgin only static number of lines i can choose in options
[18:27] <matthew> this isn't the food network
[18:27] <dvyjones> hwilde: Resolves just fine, hanging on connecting :(
[18:27] <matteo_> hi all, i have no sound in firefox flash videos since i upgraded to INTREPID IBEX any tips?
[18:27] <leohartx> if i install many applications, will my ubuntu run slower ?
[18:27] <soundray> dvyjones: what about hwilde's suggestion?
[18:27] <t0lkman2> in gaim i could resize with mouse
[18:28] <hwilde> dvyjones, what were you changing previous to this breaking
[18:28] <hwilde> or did it never work
[18:28] <e\ectro_> I am having an issue with Ubuntu 32/64 where on bootup, it hangs on X with a black screen and mouse cursor.  If you exit out of X and try and log into the console, it just hangs and never gets to the shell prompt.  If you reboot into single user mode, there is NOTHING in the logs detailing what may be the culprit.  Has anyone else seen this type of behavior exhibited?
[18:28] <e\ectro_> Intreipd
[18:28] <dvyjones> Nothing... I was going to eat dinner, and when I came back nothing works...
[18:28] <matthew> matteo are you running any other programs that are using sound when you try to use your browser ?
[18:28] <hwilde> e\ectro_, /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?
[18:28] <dvyjones> Hmm, I'll go to check some other comps on the network just in case...
[18:29] <e\ectro_> hwilde: its not X, I can kill X and try and log into the console with no shell prompt.
[18:29] <hwilde> dvyjones, maybe you are blocked by a parental filter or firewall
[18:29] <hwilde> e
[18:29] <Slart> rhigby_: I know that other graphics cards also have problems with those ttys.. for a while nvidia cards just died when you tried it
[18:29] <hwilde> e\ectro_, if you hit Ctrl+Alt+f1 can you login?
[18:29] <matteo_> hi all, i have no sound in firefox flash videos since i upgraded to INTREPID IBEX any tips?
[18:29] <hwilde> !sound > matteo_
[18:29] <e\ectro_> hwilde:  accepts password, never get a shell prompt
[18:29] <Omar87> My bluetooth device is not listed in the lspci, it's not recognized by the system, is there any drivers I must install?
[18:30] <hwilde> e\ectro_, are you out of diskspace?  sounds like it can't write your .session
[18:30] <hwilde> Omar87, google for your device + ubuntu
[18:30] <e\ectro_> /dev/sdb1             688G  545G  109G  84% /home
[18:30] <SOF4LNX> matteo: you could remove gnash and gnash-plugin then install flash 10 for linux but itll be less secure since its not updated as gnash is
[18:30] <NekroJakub> Okay, this is driving me pretty nuts. My show desktop button used to show my desktop, but now it first maximises everything, and THEN shows it. Halp needed.
[18:30] <admin_masu3701> is there a canadian chennel?
[18:31] <hwilde> NekroJakub, did you get all the backups
[18:31] <e\ectro_> /dev/sda1             144G  6.5G  130G   5% /
[18:31] <hwilde> !ca | admin_masu3701
[18:31] <ikonia> !ca
[18:31] <hwilde> 2slow
[18:31] <KomiaPoika> Slart: openbsd
[18:31] <matthew> matteo sudo aptitude install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[18:31] <NekroJakub> hwilde: What do you mean by that?
[18:31] <KomiaPoika> !mount
[18:31] <hwilde> NekroJakub, run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[18:31] <SOF4LNX> matteo: so on that point its as uncool as windows (theres auto update for flash somewhere on their site)
[18:31] <boteeka_> Omar87: My Bluetooth dongle is recongnized, but I still can't use it. In Intrepid the bluetooth system is somehow messed up, at least so it seems.
[18:31] <Slart> KomiaPoika: ah.. I don't think you can boot from a mounted iso, if that's what you're trying to do
[18:32] <leohartx> if i install many applications, will my ubuntu run slower ?
[18:32] <SOF4LNX> NO
[18:32] <boteeka_> Omar87: see https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/283064
[18:32] <ikonia> leohartx: if you "use" many it will
[18:32] <Slart> leohartx: not if you don't run them all at once
[18:32] <KomiaPoika> Slart: no but i can upgrade
[18:32] <NekroJakub> hwilde: I have no idea what should that accomplish... You know what I mean, right?
[18:32] <KomiaPoika> Slart: i just need to mount the iso in nfs
[18:32] <rhigby_> Slart: If I hit, for example, F2, it will try to go to the ttys, then pops back to the GUI, If i hit it a seond time, it will stick, with the black screen.
[18:32] <Slart> leohartx: but of course.. if you install more programs there will be more files around.. updating will take longer etc etc
[18:32] <matteo_> hi all, i have no sound in firefox flash videos since i upgraded to INTREPID IBEX any tips?
[18:32] <hwilde> NekroJakub, if you don't have all the updates maybe that is why your show desktop is not happy
[18:33] <ikonia> !sound >>>> matteo_
[18:33] <hwilde> !alsa > matteo_
[18:33] <ikonia> !sound >matteo_
[18:33] <matthew> matteo people have given you tips
[18:33] <cypr1nus> does anyone know, how to make obmenu to find and place in menu all installed apps?
[18:33] <NekroJakub> hwilde: I googled it and it seems to be connected with Compiz... Still, let's see.
[18:33] <hwilde> !flash > matteo_
[18:33] <matteo_> !flash
[18:33] <hwilde> NekroJakub, if it's not workin right, get all the updates
[18:33] <matthew> matteo sudo aptitude install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[18:33] <SOF4LNX> leohartx: Though if those apps also requires to start at boot then itll be slower but nowhere near as slow as windows
[18:33] <hwilde> NekroJakub, maybe you get lucky and somebody fixed it
[18:34] <NekroJakub> hwilde: No, it still works that way, one click shows desktop, the other maximises all windows.
[18:34] <DocUSN-USMC> how can i get my webcam working in 8.10 all i get is static
[18:34] <Slart> rhigby_: I don't want to try it myself.. nvidia might have fixed that bug in the newer drivers but I don't want to restart if they haven't =)
[18:34] <NekroJakub> It worked differently right after install, then it always minimised everything, which I LIKE very much.
[18:34] <rootrot> How would i use mdf2iso to convert this to .ISO?   ~/Desktop/Deus Ex GOTY\Deus\ Ex\ GOTY.mdf
[18:35] <t0lkman2> why i need two loggers in services setting? (anacron,atd)
[18:35] <t0lkman2> ?
[18:35] <calwig> hi, is there a link where i can see how an interfaces file can be set up for wireless automatic setup under wlan0, using WPA2 Personal?
[18:35] <DocUSN-USMC> anyone here know how to get a webcam running in 8.10
[18:35] <dvyjones> hwilde: No, it was some router problem, restarted it and everything works...
[18:35] <KarlsBerg> what is really madwifi-tools?
[18:35] <Drako_Tags> Morning.
[18:35] <SOF4LNX> leohartx: I suppose you could make it really slow if you code a for-loop with no sleep time at all and then add it to the startup of your init or desktop startup but then people will compalin alot if you ever thought of releasing it hehe
[18:36] <hwilde> dvyjones, there you go
[18:36] <hwilde> calwig,   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=318539
[18:36] <DocUSN-USMC> whats the command for looking up valid devices
[18:36] <cw-brad> does anybody know how to make ubuntu from scratch?
[18:36] <SOF4LNX> lspci or lsusb
[18:36] <hwilde> !compile > cw-brad
[18:37] <Drako_Tags> I was wondering if anyone is having issues with the havp update.
[18:37] <ratpoison> hello! I can't listen to sound when playing video files. I have Emu 1212m (which isn't used at all) and VIA VTA82xx which is configured to play sound through pulseaudio
[18:37] <Masterkiller> hey i have an ubuntu 6.10 cd i want to use as a live cd because it comes with gcc 4.1 on it. the package repo's are closed to this version i believe, any suggestions what i should do to get a repo working? switch it to etch or something?
[18:37] <DocUSN-USMC> that doesnt give me the dev/video0 or dev/video1
[18:37] <cw-brad> hwilde not copile ubuntu
[18:37] <jabba> hello
[18:37] <SOF4LNX> cw-brad: what would be the point ? .. see LFS (Linux From Scratch)
[18:37] <jabba> just updated my notebook to Intrepid Ibex, but i am missing the network-manager in gnome
[18:37] <cw-brad> well im makeing a page in the comuity dock
[18:38] <jabba> can't use my wlan up to now
[18:38] <issackelly> How do I escape a command line argument in a shell script? (passing a folder name to sed..and it gets confused)
[18:38] <jabba> any suggestions why the manager is missing?
[18:38] <DocUSN-USMC> the lspci or lsusb isnt the command i need. i need the one that shows you what audio/video compenents are under what dev/videoX and such
[18:38] <hwilde> issackelly, /msg me an example of what you want to do
[18:38] <cw-brad> here is my page im makeing
[18:38] <cw-brad> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizationFromScratch
[18:38] <hwilde> DocUSN-USMC, lspci -v
[18:38] <SOF4LNX> cw-brad: Im having a problem understanding that, can you clarify ?
[18:38] <kx86br> Is there any good repository with good security app for ubuntu 8.10? like (metasploit) thankx in advanced
[18:38] <calwig> hwilde Thank you, hey a minute ago that was the forum article I had seen. I thought it wasnt useful but it is. So now i can confirm it from you :)
[18:38] <cw-brad> i wana add more stuff to it
[18:39] <effi> hello
[18:39] <effi> i have a question, can someone help me?
[18:39] <needhelp1> This is really ultra frustrating, can someone please help out out ... i get this message in my syslog and i am unable to get a graphical login screen :: GDM: WARNING: Couldn't authenticate user
[18:39] <aaron_> hi is it possible to skin pidgin?
[18:39] <Pici> !ask | effi
[18:39] <fosco_> aaron_, pidgin uses gtk theme
[18:39] <boteeka_> aaron_: no
[18:40] <Meshach> Hello. My htdocs folder says in the properties "owned by: nobody"
[18:40] <aaron_> hmm ok...and I was wondering how do you change the look of your GDM screen?
[18:40] <SOF4LNX> cw-brad: Imtowannahave allthecools, howtodos ?
[18:40] <SOF4LNX> :)
[18:40] <Masterkiller> hey i have an ubuntu 6.10 cd i want to use as a live cd because it comes with gcc 4.1 on it. the package repo's are closed to this version i believe, any suggestions what i should do to get a repo working? switch it to etch or something?
[18:40] <xorand> does anyone know when open office 3 will be available in the ubuntu repos?
[18:40] <effi> ok :D i just registered a new user and i wanted to make one administrator and one normal user without the rights to delete or modify data, now i cannot logon root in the start menu, because it says, the administrator cannot login from that menu... but now i can only log in as a normal user and cant even open the terminal anymore...
[18:41] <boteeka_> aaron_: System -> Administration -> Login window
[18:41] <needhelp> Hello, after I updated my system, the network doesn't work on that computer. Here are the settings: http://paste.ubuntu.com/71433/. Any suggestions ?
[18:41] <aaron_> thanks ^^
[18:41] <boteeka_> np
[18:41] <leohartx> how do i clean hidden folder & file ( .<apps name>) in home/<username>/ which no longer use ?
[18:41] <Meshach>  Hey guys, does anyone know know how to create file in htdocs
[18:42] <unclemike> anyone have a 8.10 source.list they can send me or copy and paste to a pasting site
[18:42] <LoveGuru> something problem with my connection.. when i did " sudo ifdown eth0 " after that its not going to be UP gave me error. " postconf: Fatal: open /etc/postfix/main.cf: No such file or directoy. there is already a pid file /var/run/dhclient.eth0.pid with pid 3787 killed old client process, Removed pid file ..
[18:42] <effi> nobody has an idea how to fix it again?
[18:43] <xorand> what does sudo ifup eth0 do?
[18:43] <DocUSN-USMC> hmm... this isnt working.. im trying to find the dev/video controller for my webcam and lsusb -v isnt showing it....
[18:43] <Drako_Tags> I have been having this issues with the havp update: "E: /var/cache/apt/archives/havp_0.86-1ubuntu0.1_i386.deb: subprocess new pre-removal script returned error exit status 1"  Anyone know what is wrong and how to fix it?
[18:43] <NekroJakub> Is there any way to change the show desktop button from minimise-maximise to just minimise all?
[18:43] <matthew> effi system> admin > user groups
[18:44] <komputes> does anyone know of an open source project which aims into the integrate a way to snapshot/backup and then restore a "steady state" based on dates the backups were made -  similar to windows with system restore, or mac os x with time machine
[18:44] <effi> matthew the problem is, i dont have that menu anymore, because im now logged in as a normal user without admin rights...
[18:44] <leohartx> how do i clean hidden folder & file ( .<apps name>) in home/<username>/ which no longer use ?
[18:44] <boteeka_> effi: it is maybe late, maybe you should have just used the Guest account
[18:44] <matthew> you have no super user account ?
[18:44] <xorand> rm .hiddenfolder?
[18:44] <Enissay> how can i convert my dvd movies to a divx with multiple sounds and subtitles?
[18:44] <effi> metthew: only the root account
[18:45] <xorand> or rm -fv .hiddenfolder?
[18:45] <effi> matthew and a normal user account
[18:45] <LoveGuru> xorand: the command works " sudo ifup eth0 "  but in the last gave me error "postconf: fatal: open/etc/postfix/main.cf: No such file or directory
[18:45] <matthew> can you log into root
[18:45] <matthew> and get to that menu
[18:45] <xorand> LoveGuru, so what is the issue then?
[18:45] <LoveGuru> the last line.. it doesn't matter.
[18:46] <LoveGuru> *fatal*
[18:46] <effi> i cant log in as root... because he says, the root cannot log in from the normal login-menu
[18:46] <xutyl> hi
[18:46] <t0lkman2> i installed devilspie
[18:46] <ikonia> effi: root is disabled from logging in
[18:46] <t0lkman2> and how to use it?
[18:46] <leohartx> xorand: i mean the hidden folder of uninstalled progs
[18:46] <xorand> LoveGuru, so what didn't it do that is should do / what did it do that it shouldn't (apart from displaying a nasty message)
[18:47] <leohartx> how do i clean hidden folder & file ( .<apps name>) in home/<username>/ of uninstalled programs ?
[18:47] <SOF4LNX> effi> system user configuration in the menu /// enable root %s %d
[18:47] <matthew> effi can you log in as root in a shell ?
[18:47] <mikele> join /ubuntu-it
[18:47] <cw-brad> so has anybody thought about installing ubuntu from scratch
[18:47] <mikele> join /#ubuntu-it
[18:47] <effi> matthew what is shell?
[18:47] <matthew> like tty3 ctrl alt f3
[18:47] <matthew> then do su -
[18:47] <maggo79> hi, has anyone tested the new ati drivers (8.11)? -> I'm getting a MD5 error. http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/linux/linux-radeon.html
[18:47] <SOF4LNX> cw-brad> like we all did, from CD ?
[18:47] <matthew> do you have your actual root password ?
[18:47] <mikele> join #ubuntu-it
[18:47] <effi> yes
[18:47] <xorand> leohartx, take a flamethrower and burn them out (that is, after they've been uninstalled by apt - even then, try clean with apt)
[18:48] <matthew> try that and make a new user
[18:48] <matthew> su -
[18:48] <eross> I want to know, why if hardy is LTS that the latest gimp, blender, etc.. aren't LTS also in the repos?
[18:48] <mikele> help can I entry in ubuntu-it server?
[18:48] <kansan> what do we need for apache
[18:48] <xutyl> hi, is there someone who's hacker? i have to ask him one thing about a virus
[18:48] <cw-brad> not just from cd
[18:48] <matthew> then adduser name
[18:48] <xutyl> hi, is there someone who's hacker? i have to ask him one thing about a virus
[18:48] <Guest21695> hi, in ubuntu graphviz has a bug, i have read on launchpad that the bug can be fixed by a patch, but i dont know how to perform the patch in ubuntu, i can get 2 files from this site https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/graphviz/+bug/192590 one is a .patch file and the other is a .debdiff file, how to i patch the software?
[18:48] <effi> ok
[18:48] <matthew> the passwd name
[18:48] <Pici> xutyl: We do not support such things here.
[18:48] <mikele> join #ubuntu-it
[18:48] <Pici> eross: Because LTS doesn't mean that it will have the latest packages.  It means that the latest security updates will be provided.
[18:49] <SOF4LNX> Guest21695> nick up properly
[18:49] <effi> matthew ok thanks, i will try that out
[18:49] <leohartx> xorand: i had tried with sudo apt-get clean, autoremove, but it didnt work as i want
[18:50] <t0lkman2> i've installed ubuntu without swap disk, is it very slowdown my comp ;[?
[18:50] <matthew> well make the user and see if you can log in with it and change those settings
[18:50] <matthew> if not let me know so we can fix it
[18:50] <svampen_85> SOF4LNX: sorry didn't notice
[18:50] <SOF4LNX> Tja
[18:50] <mikele> Hi, someone can help me to install driver for my EPSON DX 4450??
[18:50] <SOF4LNX> >(
[18:50] <zetto> всем здравствуйте
[18:50] <xorand> leohartx, a mate of mine had the same problem.  He ended up manually deleting the files (flamethrower - he came right too)
[18:50] <Dreaman> здраствуй маладеж
[18:50] <Dreaman> ::)
[18:50] <svampen_85> any1 how do i apply debdiffs or patch ?
[18:51] <greencookie> I'm getting choppy sound on my hp pavilion running Ibex, I'm guessing ubuntu installed wrong driver?
[18:51] <docta_v> if i'm booting from RAID1 and i want grub to manage installing to both disks, do i just edit the device.map to make hd0 set to md0?
[18:51] <zetto> помогите плз оч надо помощь
[18:51] <Pici> !ru | zetto
[18:51] <Meshach> Hey, does anyone know why I can't create a new file in my HTDOCS folder using XAMPP??
[18:51] <matteo_> hi all since i updated to INTREPID IBEX i can't hear any sounds from flash videos, any tips?
[18:51] <SOF4LNX> skitfedora, laer byta from FC10
[18:51] <t0lkman2> zetto use #ubuntu-ru channel
[18:51] <mikele> EPSON DX 4450 driver???
[18:51] <Ayabara> I want to upgrade transmission to v1.40. What's the decent way of doing this if I want to be sure I get future updates? Add some repo? Build from source?
[18:51] <xorand> does anyone know when open office 3 will be available in the ubuntu repos?
[18:51] <gammy> svampen_85: Those patches are to be applied to the source code of the software. However, you're using binary packages.
[18:51] <eross> so any apache security updates or mysql could be left behind in hardy then..
[18:52] <matthew> effi you still there ?
[18:52] <leohartx> xorand: hmm, ok i'll spend my time for it, thankyou
[18:52] <SOF4LNX> Eah, nu ryker fedoraskiten
[18:52] <SOF4LNX> &quit
[18:52] <maggo79> xorand: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/openoffice-pkgs/ubuntu intrepid main
[18:52] <xorand> leohartx, yw and good luck :)
[18:52] <gammy> svampen_85: You basically have two choices. Wait until a new binary package is released (possibly it already has in -proposed) or you remove the package and build it manually from source, which is not recommended.
[18:52] <xorand> maggo79, thanks
[18:52] <matteo_> hi all since i updated to INTREPID IBEX i can't hear any sounds from flash videos, any tips?
[18:52] <FWP-> hey
[18:53] <mikele> EPSON DX 4450 DRIVER?
[18:53] <entilzha> Hi all, is anyone else experiencing occasional system lockups since upgrading to Intrepid?
[18:53] <eross> matteo_ i have onboard audio, and I had to turn my volume way up in mixers, anywhere else I could find to barely hear something
[18:53] <eross> on my ibex box
[18:53] <entilzha> I'm talking about seemingly random total system freeze, on a Thinkpad T60
[18:53] <gammy> entilzha: Thousands of things can cause that. You'll have to me more specific.
[18:54] <xorand> matteo_, have you given flash permissions to the sound driver.  I had the same problem with no sound.  Ended up to be a setting in the embedded player by the sound controls
[18:54] <denny> if an ubuntu box gets to displaying the GDM background, but doesn't load up the login window, what might have gone wrong?  :)
[18:54] <SOF4LNX> ÅÄÖ ... FC10 is compromised
[18:54] <entilzha> Since I cannot figure a cause, nor can do anything to figure out what happened, I don't know what else to specify.
[18:54] <Meshach> Does nobody know the answer to my question?
[18:54] <gammy> entilzha: Soooooooooo what have you tried?
[18:55] <gammy> entilzha: I mean what software have you tried disabling, what other reports have you found, have you run hardware tests, have you checked logs, have you done anything at all?
[18:55] <entilzha> gammy: I'm not that familiar with the system
[18:55] <entilzha> Wouldnt know which logs to check
[18:55] <svampen_85> gammy: there are new realeses from graphviz but when i download the deb file and try to install it it says "error:dependency is not satisfiable libgd2-noxpm libgd2-xpm? I have alredy installed these packages...
[18:55] <gammy> entilzha: So basically "It's broke how do I fix it!" ?
[18:55] <gammy> entilzha: If you're not that familiar with the system, then the claim that it worked before intrepid is false.
[18:56] <entilzha> gammy: Well, it's kinda like that, but I was hoping others have the same thing so I could just follow a recipe to fix it. I have been using Ubuntu since Edgy. It never locked up before my upgrade recently.
[18:56] <rabe> hi everyone
[18:57] <_346L3_> Hello :D
[18:57] <gammy> svampen_85: google gives a lot of interesting places to start :P
[18:57] <hwilde> !upgrade > hwilde
[18:57] <gammy> entilzha: Sure, I've had ubuntu intrepid freeze randomly
[18:57] <gammy> entilzha: it was due to not running mdadm in monitor mode on my DATA RAID5 in LVM. I presume you don't have three hard drives in your laptop.
[18:57] <effi> matthew hey, it didnt work out
[18:57] <rabe> i am trying to use Irfan View 4.2 with WINE but it does not start ... any experiences with that??
[18:58] <entilzha> gammy: no, just one, so no raid configuration
[18:58] <gammy> entilzha: My point is, everyone had had a system crash randomly. Without more information, it is not possible to locate the fault.
[18:58] <tsunami> would anyone mind helping me out with a moblock install...?
[18:58] <entilzha> gammy: can you point me to any logs to look into?
[18:58] <entilzha> dmesg or smth?
[18:59] <gammy> entilzha: All logs reside in /var/log/
[18:59] <gammy> entilzha: look for information occurring prior to the lockup.
[18:59] <gammy> entilzha: run memory tests.
[18:59] <greencookie> I have a dual boot lappy with win vista 64 bit and Intrepid Ibex; Is there any way I can run Ibex from inside Vista?
[18:59] <greencookie> I mean without restarting the computer.
[18:59] <matteo_> hi all since i updated to INTREPID IBEX i can't hear any sounds from flash videos, any tips?
[18:59] <SOF4LNX> Hmm, does xchat adjust to other langugeas now and discards the users language ?
[18:59] <greencookie> matteo_, i think it has something to do with pulseaudio and alsa conflicts
[18:59] <gammy> entilzha: Have you tried disabling X. What new software do you have that didn't come with the previous install. Etc etc etc. Classical fault-finding.
[19:00] <SOF4LNX> Stonado
[19:00] <NekroJakub> Why doesn't my show desktop button minimise all windows anymore? Now it first minimises them, then when I click again maximises them. Is there any way, any way at all, to reverse that change? It deeply saddens me, it worked so perfectly before...
[19:00] <rabe> i am trying to use Irfan View 4.2 with WINE but it does not start ... any experiences with that??
[19:00] <gammy> entilzha: the *least* you have to do is provide exact specs on that machine, which driver you were using, which software was running, the logs and most importantly, try to *reproduce the fault*
[19:00] <Grey_Loki> rabe, might wanna ask in #winehq instead :)
[19:01] <ltgg0524> since 8.10 online upgrade, locked out as admin, cannot 'su'  ... any tips for newbie?
[19:01] <gammy> ltgg0524: use sudo.
[19:01] <Finnish> Me-Tv is giving me a error : "Failed to open video stream: No demux plugin" Whats this?
[19:01] <entilzha> gammy: thx for the infos. I'll try and see if I can find what trigger it. Last time I was just running X-chat and Subspace, so I will try and see if that triggers it..
[19:01] <gwi> Does anyone know why apt-get dist-upgrade says there is nothing to do, while I want to upgrade from 8.04 to 8.10?
[19:01] <matteo_> hi all since i updated to INTREPID IBEX i can't hear any sounds from flash videos, any tips?
[19:01] <SOF4LNX> To piss everyone off we make an ubuntu, make it very varying and perhaps bad so that new users will think this is GNU/Linux ? ... Fix the bugs please!
[19:02] <gammy> entilzha: remember, ubuntu has a lot of help on the site.Look in the topic for more info.
[19:02] <gammy> matteo_: You seriously need to STOP repeating that.
[19:02] <GaMbi_DK> So.. when Im playing (frozen-bubble, Teeworlds etc..) how Do I "Alt+tab" out of it?.. was beginning to thing it wasnt possible.. but then a guy send me a msg via aMSN and it jumped to desktop.. now I cant get back in the game thought.. any help?
[19:02] <NekroJakub> Why doesn't my show desktop button minimise all windows anymore? Now it first minimises them, then when I click again maximises them. Is there any way, any way at all, to reverse that change? It deeply saddens me, it worked so perfectly before...
[19:03] <entilzha> gammy: any pointers as to which logs may contain lockup info?
[19:03] <hwilde> matteo_, reinstall alsa, reinstall flash, reboot.  don't open any other programs.
[19:03] <hwilde> entilzha, /var/log/syslog  /var/log/messages
[19:03] <gammy> entilzha: syslog*, message*, daemon*, Xorg*
[19:03] <SOF4LNX> matteo_: google gnash and then flash. gnash install is crippled in you version of ubuntu maybe ?
[19:04] <entilzha> aah
[19:04] <entilzha> Nov 13 19:57:50 MBS-NB158 kernel: [  455.024006] CE: hpet increasing min_delta_ns to 50624 nsec
[19:04] <entilzha> is that a good thing?
[19:04] <gammy> entilzha: That's fine.
[19:04] <NekroJakub> Why doesn't my show desktop button minimise all windows anymore? Now it first minimises them, then when I click again maximises them. Is there any way, any way at all, to reverse that change? It deeply saddens me, it worked so perfectly before...
[19:04] <gwi> ﻿Does anyone know why apt-get dist-upgrade says there is nothing to do, while I want to upgrade from 8.04 to 8.10?
[19:04] <gammy> entilzha: most things will be fine..
[19:04] <NekroJakub> *sigh* Sorry for the spam, I'm desperate.
[19:04] <LoveGuru> i just edit "/etc/sudoers" file i just want to know how to run that file after that it going to be work?
[19:04] <Novalty> gwi, System > Admin > software sources - then go to the updates tab, and change the box to Nornal releases instead of LTS
[19:05] <_346L3_> Em... I have a question about compiling the kernel on intrepid... has somebody done it and could assist me with my question, please?
[19:05] <rdevabha> Hi
[19:05] <SOF4LNX> NekroJakub: Dont say sorry if its correct for you. What version of Ubuntu ?
[19:05] <entilzha> Nov 13 19:51:13 MBS-NB158 pulseaudio[6026]: ltdl-bind-now.c: Failed to find original dlopen loader.
[19:05] <entilzha> hmm, that could be it
[19:05] <rdevabha> i have  a  very  big  problem  with apt-get  , can anyone help me here
[19:05] <entilzha> Nov 13 19:51:13 MBS-NB158 pulseaudio[6028]: main.c: setrlimit(RLIMIT_NICE, (31, 31)) failed: Operation not permitted
[19:05] <entilzha> Nov 13 19:51:13 MBS-NB158 pulseaudio[6028]: main.c: setrlimit(RLIMIT_RTPRIO, (9, 9)) failed: Operation not permitted
[19:05] <NekroJakub> SOF4LNX: 8.10
[19:05] <gammy> SOF4LNX: He said sorry for saying the question multiple times.
[19:05] <GaMbi_DK> rdevabha, maybe.. ask the question
[19:05] <rdevabha> My  Ubuntu  version is   8.10
[19:06] <SOF4LNX> NekroJakub: 8.04 and 8.10 seems alright to me... ill go test it right now
[19:06] <hwilde> !enter | rdevabha
[19:06] <hwilde> rdevabha, what is your prob
[19:06] <entilzha> gammy: thanks again, I'm gonna try and reproduce this/ find what's the cause
[19:06] <gwi> @Novalty: I already did that, update-manager is showing the "upgrade" button next to the message that 8.10 is available. It just doesn't do anything after displaying the release note and downloading the 2 upgrade program files.
[19:06] <gammy> entilzha: Go for it.
[19:06] <yates> how do i switch to root? not sudo, but permanently?
[19:06] <_346L3_> sudo su?
[19:06] <_346L3_> :D
[19:06] <wwpiexec> in nautilus preferences->media   I can only choose specific options to be done when inserting audio CD.. I want to run a self-made script is there a file I can edit to add the script to it? (basically I just want to make it change cwd to ~ and run abcde)
[19:06] <entilzha> :)
[19:06] <hwilde> !sudo | yates
[19:06] <needhelp1> Can anyone help me with this error in 8.10 ... i get no login prompt in X and this is in my /var/log/syslog :::  GDM: WARNING: Couldn't authenticate user
[19:06] <boteeka_> yates: su -
[19:07] <needhelp> Hello, after I updated my system, the network doesn't work on that computer. Here are the settings: http://paste.ubuntu.com/71433/. Any suggestions ?
[19:07] <genii> boteeka_: sudo -i    is preferred
[19:07] <Pici> yates: sudo -i
[19:07] <matthew> is there really a difference to using gksudo then to sudo ?
[19:07] <yates> boteeka: i'm getting authentication failures
[19:07] <rdevabha> My  systems  processor is  AMD  Phenom  and   I am  not able to play   mp3   files   ,  When i  play  mp3   i could hear  the  sound   very  MINUTE......   very very  less ....
[19:07] <BobRock> hi
[19:07] <LoveGuru> ioi just install "squid" from repo.. i just want to know which version i installed.
[19:07] <yates> HEY FOLKS: I SAID ___NOT___ SUDO!!!
[19:07] <boteeka_> genii: thnaks, I did't know that :)
[19:07] <gammy> yates: sudo -s. You really shouldn't though.
[19:07] <Pici> LoveGuru: dpkg -l squid   is one way
[19:08] <boteeka_> yates: do you surely know your password?
[19:08] <_346L3_> yates: you don't have that much of a choice... :D
[19:08] <rdevabha> Any   solution for   my MP3  problem   i mentioned  above  ...?
[19:08] <wwpiexec> !root | yates
[19:08] <maggo79> yates: have you tried starting in recovery mode?
[19:08] <GaMbi_DK> rdevabha, specify plz
[19:08] <boteeka_> ubottu: LOL
[19:08] <GaMbi_DK> rdevabha, you hear the sound very minute? very very less?
[19:08] <NekroJakub> S0F4LNX: I can tell you what I know, it seems to be tied in with Compiz, it's true that I changed around some settings but I didn't touch show desktop, in fact both the show desktop plugins are off and were off at the time.
[19:08] <genii> yates: Ubuntu is extensively sudo based. You'll find it difficult not to be required to use it
[19:08] <DocUSN-USMC> does anyone here know how to set upa webcam in 8.10
[19:09] <SOF4LNX> NekroJakub: I have no such panel applet. Do you ?
[19:09] <yates> i simply want to manage some system files (tex font files in /etc/texmf, to be precise) and i tire of sudo-ing every damn thing
[19:09] <rdevabha> Any   solution for   my MP3  problem   i mentioned  above  ...?
[19:09] <boteeka_> ubottu: ok, sorry, I'm new here
[19:09] <SOF4LNX> gammy: thats alright
[19:09] <yates> thanks - sudo -s works.
[19:09] <NekroJakub> S0F4LNX: What do you mean, the show desktop applet? It's in the bottom-left corner in GNOME by default.
[19:09] <gammy> NekroJakub: It's probably a daft key conflict don't you think?
[19:09] <GaMbi_DK> rdevabha, it's kinda hard to help you if you dont specify the problem
[19:09] <wwpiexec> yates: just to be clear.. we cannot tell you how to activate the root account.. we can't really be responsible about what happens to your computer if you do start doing stuff as root..
[19:09] <kernel_geek> i will look into the webcam gimme a sec
[19:09] <khu> rebonjour à tous
[19:09] <_346L3_> bonjour :D
[19:09] <_346L3_> mhm...
[19:10] <needhelp1> Can anyone help me with this error in 8.10 ... i get no login prompt in X and this is in my /var/log/syslog :::  GDM: WARNING: Couldn't authenticate user
[19:10] <SOF4LNX> NekroJakub: i dont have that and i have upgraded from 8.04
[19:10] <NekroJakub> gammy: It seems like a feature, I mean I saw show desktop work like that in KDE I think, but before it just minimised always
[19:10] <DocUSN-USMC> does anyone here know how to set upa webcam in 8.10
[19:10] <wwpiexec> in nautilus preferences->media   I can only choose specific options to be done when inserting audio CD.. I want to run a self-made script is there a file I can edit to add the script to it? (basically I just want to make it change cwd to ~ and run abcde)
[19:10] <gammy> NekroJakub: Just yesterday I had it deadlock on me because I enabled the magnifier plugin at the same time as the advanced magnifier plugin :
[19:10] <rdevabha> My  systems  processor is  AMD  Phenom  and   I am  not able to play   mp3   files   ,  When i  play  mp3   i could hear  the  sound   very  MINUTE......   very very  less ....
[19:10] <khu> je suis entrain de graver ubuuntuuuu =))
[19:10] <Pici> !fr | khu
[19:10] <_346L3_> my question about the compilation of the kernel on ubuntu 8.10: has anybody tried to do it? i can't compile the kernel, as it seems the ubuntu-addons are broken...
[19:10] <wwpiexec> rdevabha: your sound problem is not associated in any way whatever processor you hace..
[19:10] <Pici> !kernel | _346L3_
[19:10] <rdevabha> the  problem is   with  playing   MP3   files  , i think there is  some  mess up hapened  with  Audio  Codecs
[19:10] <kernel_geek> webcam guy: have you tried this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam ?
[19:10] <khu> merciii
[19:10] <SOF4LNX> khu: schmurrdidoo
[19:10] <khu> il me semblé bien lol
[19:10] <yates> wwpiexec: gee, thanks. I think, after using linux heavily for 3 years on several sytems (lightly for 10 years), i think i got the root thing down. but thanks.
[19:11] <NekroJakub> gammy: So how does your show desktop button work?
[19:11] <_346L3_> mhm... I know all these howtos...
[19:11] <GaMbi_DK> rdevabha, yea saw that.. you are not able to play MP3.. but you can hear it very MINUTE very very less?  what do you mean?
[19:11] <snikker> i'm unable to install "language-pack-gnome-it-base" package, some hint?
[19:11] <wwpiexec> yates: pm me if you wnt to know how
[19:11] <gammy> NekroJakub: I'm not too sure what you were talking about earlier, but may I recommend you get the compizconfig-settings-manager package.
[19:11] <yates> how to what?
[19:11] <_346L3_> i followed a few of them, because i suspected i was doing something wrong...
[19:11] <raro89> ciao
[19:11] <gammy> NekroJakub: I don't have one I'm afrain.
[19:11] <gammy> NekroJakub: Er, afraid.
[19:11] <yates> get root passwd?
[19:11] <wwpiexec> yates: the root thingy
[19:11] <rdevabha> Off course  i am aware  it is  nothing to do with  processor  , But   just   for  info  i gave   that  , how can i solve  my  Problem  with  Playing  MP3  files  ... Please  help
[19:11] <yates> sudo -s works fine
[19:11] <wwpiexec> yates: ok..
[19:11] <boteeka_> yates: maybe you should just use your own password
[19:11] <SOF4LNX> khu: Guten morgen, bom dia, good morning, god morgon, lahastalavista :)
[19:11] <NekroJakub> gammy: I got that package already, I'll double-check to make sure.
[19:12] <boteeka_> yates: your user's password
[19:12] <gammy> NekroJakub: Ah
[19:12] <_346L3_> the problem is: the parts of the kernel compile quite nice... until it tries to compile the addons ubuntu added to the source...
[19:12] <maggo79> yes, sudo -s is better than sudo -i cause you stay in the same directory
[19:12] <NekroJakub> gammy: Yeah, I have it.
[19:12] <_346L3_> it then exits with complaints about undefined functions etc...
[19:12] <teicah> any1 w/logitech optical usb 3button+wheel with the side button not working?
[19:12] <GaMbi_DK> rdevabha, yea I know.. but I dont understand the problem.. when you try to play MP3 files what happens?
[19:12] <_346L3_> I did everything as it was recommended in the official ubuntu-howtos...
[19:13] <wwpiexec>  _346L3_: undefined functions means that some dependecies are not met..
[19:13] <rdevabha> I mean   when  playing the  mp3  files  , the  sound   comes   very   very  less  in the sense  , i should   keep  my  Ear  attached  to speaker    with   Full   sound  enabled  in the   player   ...
[19:13] <_346L3_> mhm...
[19:13] <_346L3_> which could these be?
[19:13] <gammy> NekroJakub: I just re-read your post while trying my newly added desktop button thinger.
[19:13] <wwpiexec> _346L3_: can you pastebin your output for "./configure"
[19:13] <_346L3_> i added every package that was mentioned in the howtos...
[19:13] <gammy> NekroJakub: So the problem is what - that it toggles between min/max instead of always mimimizing?
[19:13] <_346L3_> k... wait a sec
[19:13] <rdevabha> Gstreamer   is  installed  also
[19:13] <NekroJakub> gammy: Exactly. It always minimised before.
[19:14] <gammy> NekroJakub: Ok. It seems nice as it is to me. I wonder - how do you maximize them again then?
[19:14] <rdevabha> All  Gstreamer   packages are  installed and  i've  tried  installing  all nonfree packages   of  Ubuntu  and   No  luck  ....
[19:14] <C0p3rn1c> to get my tv-tuner working :the mercurial package is for dvb-t support?
[19:14] <LoveGuru> Pici: well thanks "package name -version" works
[19:14] <rdevabha> I mean   when  playing the  mp3  files  , the  sound   comes   very   very  less  in the sense  , i should   keep  my  Ear  attached  to speaker    with   Full   sound  enabled  in the   player   ...
[19:14] <NekroJakub> gammy: By clicking the button again. But I don't want that... *sigh* And I do swear it didn't do that before.
[19:14] <rdevabha> All  Gstreamer   packages are  installed and  i've  tried  installing  all nonfree packages   of  Ubuntu  and   No  luck  ....
[19:14] <wwpiexec> !repeat | rdevabha
[19:14] <_346L3_> wwpiexec: wait a sec... the VM is booting ;)
[19:14] <gammy> NekroJakub: No I mean, how did you do it *before* :)
[19:15] <SOF4LNX> NekroJakub: Im curious, how did you get that thing that doesnt get installed by default in Ubuntu 8.10 ?
[19:15] <GaMbi_DK> rdevabha, ok.. so the MP3 is workin it seams.. you fooled around with the volume? try going to sound options in top bar right side.. turn up "Master" and "PCM"
[19:15] <C0p3rn1c> !dvb
[19:15] <rdevabha> Master  and  PCM  are  enabled  already
[19:15] <raro89> ciao
[19:16] <GaMbi_DK> rdevabha, only MP3 you got trubbles with? Do you hear the logon sound okay?
[19:16] <NekroJakub> gammy: Before my desktop showed every time I clicked. All windows minimised.
[19:16] <rdevabha> No   there is  no login  Sound  EVEN  ....
[19:16] <NekroJakub> gammy: If I opened one and clicked the button, it'd minimise just show the desktop again.
[19:16] <SOF4LNX> NekroJakub: Im curious, how did you get that thing that doesnt get installed by default in Ubuntu 8.10 ?
[19:16] <rdevabha> No  login   Sound    coming  even
[19:16] <gammy> NekroJakub: Ok. Well I see what you're upset about (the fact that there is no option for changing this behavior)
[19:16] <GaMbi_DK> rdevabha, try turning up your speakers then :)
[19:16] <NekroJakub> S0F4LNX: I had it from the start, that show desktop button.
[19:17] <marino2> hola
[19:17] <rdevabha> Speakers are  ON  :)   Any  real  solution for the  problem  please  ...?
[19:17] <SOF4LNX> NekroJakub: I cant see it over here...
[19:17] <GaMbi_DK> rdevabha, do you got ANY sounds playing right? movies.. games.. etc
[19:17] <SOF4LNX> Hola!
[19:17] <rdevabha> When  playing   Movies  , VIDEO   is   Crystal  CLEAR  ....
[19:17] <NekroJakub> S0F4LNX: It's default in GNOME I am sure.
[19:17] <NekroJakub> gammy: Yeah, why did it change all of a sudden.
[19:18] <GaMbi_DK> rdevabha, try playing the MP3 in the same program as you play movies.. just to test
[19:18] <SOF4LNX> NekroJakub: Ubuntu does other things that is not "default"
[19:18] <wwpiexec> in nautilus preferences->media   I can only choose specific options to be done when inserting audio CD.. I want to run a self-made script is there a file I can edit to add the script to it? (basically I just want to make it change cwd to ~ and run abcde)
[19:18] <dekkong> hello ! anyone running elisa media center here?
[19:18] <rdevabha> I am  playing the  movies  and  Audio  in  TOTEM  Player   ,  but  AUDIO  alone  is   Coming   very  MINUTE   .....
[19:18] <SOF4LNX> NekroJakub: Like the sudo issue for example ... that is weird sorcery right there
[19:19] <rdevabha> That   means   i need  to  keep  my whole  concentration to  hear that  plays
[19:19] <wwpiexec> rdevabha: check the volume levels in alsamixer
[19:19] <NekroJakub> S0F4LNX: What isn't in Linux? :P
[19:19] <GaMbi_DK> rdevabha, oooh mute? :P
[19:20] <inzi85> hey everyone
[19:20] <rdevabha> alsamixer   is   not  running   when  i am  trying to  execute   that   from    RUN  Application  Box ...?
[19:20] <_346L3_> wwpiexec: uhm... the output of ./configure is quite simple... o.O "bash: ./configure: No such file or directory"
[19:20] <GaMbi_DK> rdevabha, go to System-> preferences-> sound
[19:20] <inzi85> does anyone know how to install windows dvb card drivers on linux
[19:20] <rdevabha> yes  i went  to   SOUNDS   after   that  ..?
[19:20] <wwpiexec> _346L3_: you said you're trying to compile from source?
[19:20] <GaMbi_DK> rdevabha, then change the mixer to Alsa
[19:20] <_346L3_> yep
[19:20] <khakane> could someone help me out? running Hardy Kubuntu, i plug an USB drive in machine, and the device does not show up in dolphin anymore.  worked fine for months..
[19:21] <needhelp> Hello, need help! My network doesn't work anymore after I upgraded Ubuntu!
[19:21] <fdr> hi! If I try to use brasero to burn a data project on a DVD it works perfectly, but if I try to prepare a video-dvd instead, when I open the burn dialog then the "Burn" button is always grayed out... what may I do about it? Thanks!
[19:21] <wwpiexec> _346L3_: ok.. are you runing "./configure" from within the directory of the source?!
[19:21] <_346L3_> the kernel 2.6.27-7 out of the sources from ubuntu
[19:21] <C0p3rn1c> inzi85: you need the mercurial package
[19:21] <khakane> and i can say the machine is reading the device and assigning it a /dev/sd*
[19:21] <_346L3_> yes...
[19:21] <SOF4LNX> The gnu/mc edit mode is totally ruined as well. It should show a nice and function..highlighted codergui but somehow its been destroyed. The same in Fedoracrap. Lets all enjoy and not be angry about anything because its somehow good and productive (Crazy people)
[19:21] <inzi85> mercurial package?
[19:21] <rdevabha> yeah  MIXER  is set   to   " HDA ATI  HDMI (Alsa Mixer) "
[19:21] <_346L3_> out of the same directory the makefile etc resides in...
[19:21] <rdevabha> MIXER  is set   to   " HDA ATI  HDMI (Alsa Mixer)
[19:21] <inzi85>  C0p3rn1c could pls tell me a little more about it pls
[19:22] <boteeka_> needhelp: did you used wireless connection before?
[19:22] <wwpiexec> _346L3_: is there an autoconfig file?
[19:22] <_346L3_> well...
[19:22] <inzi85> C0p3rn1c could pls tell me a little more about mercurial pls
[19:22] <_346L3_> i configure it over "make menuconfig"
[19:22] <needhelp> boteeka_: yes, and still wireless. It's not on this computer that the problem is, but on another comp in the house.
[19:22] <C0p3rn1c> inzi85: http://www.clivecooper.co.uk/dvb/index.html
[19:22] <GaMbi_DK> rdevabha, try pushing the "Test" at all 3 first.. any of em not playing a "dooooooh"
[19:23] <_346L3_> i use the config that came with ubuntu, which was used to compile my currently running kernel, as a draft
[19:23] <boteeka_> needhelp: When I upgraded to Intrepid, my wireless settings got lost too
[19:23] <khakane> mmm no ideas :|
[19:23] <SOF4LNX> It is time to move to a good dist where coders arent "stars" but just coders and help instead of beeing planted and headwragled into some shit that some idiot thought could be good for some evil reason
[19:23] <inzi85> thank you C0p3rn1c could pls tell me a little more about it pls
[19:23] <wwpiexec> _346L3_: why dont you simply go through the normal proceedures for compiling it.. and then redirect stdout and stderr to a file.. and then pastebinit
[19:23] <inzi85> oop
[19:23] <inzi85> thank you C0p3rn1c much appreciated
[19:23] <gwi> ﻿Does anyone know why apt-get dist-upgrade says there is nothing to do, while I want to upgrade from 8.04 to 8.10?
[19:23] <sken> hello
[19:23] <boteeka_> needhelp: I clicked the network-manager icon in the notification area and re-setup my wireless connection, and it worked
[19:23] <needhelp> boteeka_: I can pastebin the settings if you think you can see any errors...
[19:24] <orci> hi, when i select print from evince print menu evince hangs, how can I see some error messages?
[19:24] <_346L3_> wwpiexec: I guessed these WERE the normal procedures for compiling it?
[19:24] <KB3RWV> reinstall resh
[19:24] <sken> how can i find any cool ubuntu themes?
[19:24] <ganymede> hey, does anyone know a program that ican use to check how much data is being transferred via USB? like ifstat or top, but for USB
[19:24] <KB3RWV> fresh
[19:24] <needhelp> boteeka_: have tried that already
[19:24] <matthew> wow I totally screwed up xchat
[19:24] <GaMbi_DK> rdevabha, any luck?
[19:24] <boteeka_> needhelp: at least you see your AP there?
[19:24] <sken> how can i find any cool ubuntu themes?
[19:24] <rdevabha> Yes  there are   4   things   , Among  4    from three  , i could here  that  TEST   sound   very  very   Minute  .....  means     LESS ... as  i  should  keep  my whole  concentration  there  ....
[19:25] <needhelp> boteeka_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/71433/
[19:25] <GaMbi_DK> rdevabha, ok.. what are they set to?
[19:25] <_346L3_> I follow the steps out of the ubuntu-tutorials and neither they nor the ones from other tutorials were helpful in this... I'll compile it, but please be patient... It takes a long time until the error appears...
[19:25] <rdevabha> what  should  i  select  for   "  SOUND  Capture  Device  "  Settings  shown  there    ...?
[19:25] <wwpiexec> _346L3_: usually it is ./configure and then make ... but i've never compiled kernels before.. but i didn't think it was any different.. seems like they just use make with config options and flags.. maybe there is someone else here who can help.. sorry
[19:25] <StrikeTeam> hey guys anyone know how to fix the issue with EVOLUTION MAIL, that when u have a HTML signature setup, the next time you open evo mail and type a new message, the signature is all in HTML code???
[19:25] <matthew> sken   http://www.gnome-look.org/
[19:25] <rdevabha> They are  all set  to  "  Auto Detect  "    (  3  of  them  )
[19:25] <GaMbi_DK> rdevabha, change em to ALSA - Advanced Linux Sound Architecture
[19:26] <Net> #ubuntu-hu
[19:26] <GaMbi_DK> rdevabha, then push test
[19:26]  * khakane punches USB drives
[19:26] <matthew> sken download gtk 2.x themes
[19:26] <matthew> those are what you use
[19:26] <boteeka_> needhelp: from your iwlist scan it shows that your wireless hardware is ra0 not ra1
[19:26] <rdevabha> it   shows  3 different  sub options   with same  ALSA  ....   like  Anolog  and   Digital  etc.,
[19:26]  * SOF4LNX kicks the T-virus in the butt
[19:26] <_346L3_> wwpiexec: mhm... no problem, but thanks anyway... :-| only problem is: you were the only one responding to this... :-/
[19:26] <sken> you mean from the site?
[19:27] <needhelp> boteeka_: how do I change to ra0 ?
[19:27] <matthew> yeah
[19:27] <boteeka_> needhelp: try ifconfig ra0
[19:27] <khakane> could someone help me out? running Hardy Kubuntu, i plug an USB drive in machine, and the device does not show up in dolphin anymore.  worked fine for months..
[19:27] <uvacav> anyone know why they took away the current session tab gnome-session-properties? I'm trying to tell gnome-panel not to auto restart when i kill it and that used to be how you do it
[19:27] <boteeka_> needhelp: what it says?
[19:27] <webnewsreader> Hi ! Anyone familiar with DRBL and Clonezilla ?
[19:27] <khakane> but i am getting assigned a /dev/sd* for the device
[19:27] <matthew> they tell you how to install them
[19:27] <GaMbi_DK> rdevabha, yea.. change em to ALSA..
[19:27] <wwpiexec> _346L3_: usually when the compiler says function undefined.. either the programmer messed up.. (which is prob. not the case).. or there is a dependency missing.. and the code is linking to a file that doesnt exist and calling a function in there..
[19:27] <GaMbi_DK> rdevabha, then push test to see if the sound is right..
[19:27] <matthew> I like the greyhound theme :)
[19:28] <rdevabha> When  i  set  to  ALSA  , that  minimal   sound is also  not  coming  , that  comes  when it is  set  to auto Detect....
[19:28] <gd1> hi
[19:28] <SOF4LNX> webnewsreader: clonezilla seems nice, go for it. drbl--- njäeh
[19:28] <gd1> how can i FORCE apt-get to REDOWNLOAD repo list?
[19:28] <GaMbi_DK> rdevabha, if it isnt.. then try the other options till you find one that works
[19:28] <ikonia> gd1 apt-get update
[19:28] <_346L3_> mhm... then the problem is: what other dependencies does the kernel have? I followed a few steps, even written for 8.10...
[19:28] <needhelp> boteeka_: yes, it found the ethernet card
[19:28] <gd1> ikonia: it does not
[19:28] <ikonia> gd1: sure it does
[19:28] <gd1> ikonia: it tells Hit e Ign to every package
[19:28] <gd1> to every list sorry
[19:29] <ikonia> gd1: pardon ?
[19:29] <rdevabha> All  the  other  are  not  working  even the  OSS
[19:29] <wwpiexec> _346L3_: are you sure the information is not outdated.. or maybe run through the steps.. you might have mistyped something..
[19:29] <ikonia> gd1: it parses the sources.list file, then checks the repos listed
[19:29] <gd1> I want it to forget about the current list of packages
[19:29] <rdevabha> Only that  Auto Detect  Works  ...
[19:29] <gd1> ikonia: it has got a cache
[19:29] <gd1> ikonia: how can I destroy it?
[19:29] <ikonia> gd1: what current list of packages ?
[19:29] <webnewsreader> I have a server with adrbl and clonezilla but I couldn't figure out how to create and insert disk images on it
[19:29] <GaMbi_DK> rdevabha, odd.. installed any codecs when trying to play MP3 for the first time?
[19:29] <gd1> ikonia: the list of available packages
[19:29] <sken> how can i download cool themes from synaptic
[19:30] <ikonia> gd1: when you do an update it should update that cache
[19:30] <needhelp> boteeka_: it found the ethernet card with ifconfig ra0.... what now?
[19:30] <sken> i mean what themes?
[19:30] <_346L3_> I ran it on a virtual machine... I simply copy&pasted these commands. and a typing-error in the howto is nearly impossible, as the commands are the same in different howtos
[19:30] <rdevabha> Just  2 days  back  i shifted  from  Win XP   to Ubuntu   ... i've   got   frustrated   with  XP   and   installed  Ubuntu  , not even the    Dual boot.... if  sound  works   that is  more than  enough  for me  ,  i'll never  go back to  XP  ....  Thanks  for  Helping  me  ...
[19:30] <gd1> ikonia: there has to be some mess since I can install some packages because they depend on others which are available BUT not the correct version
[19:30] <matteo_> hi all, anyone knows how to have a textual boot, without the loading bar? THX ALOT
[19:30] <boteeka_> needhelp: try ifconfig ra0 up,may need sudo
[19:30] <ikonia> gd1: can you explain the problem ?
[19:30] <gd1> ikonia: package A version 1.0 depends on package B version 1.1, but package B is still 0.9
[19:30] <ikonia> gd1: apologies, not sure I %100 follow
[19:30] <wwpiexec> _346L3_: hmm.. where is the howto?
[19:30] <gd1> ikonia: never mind. look at the exampe
[19:30] <_346L3_> http://blog.avirtualhome.com/2008/10/28/how-to-compile-a-custom-kernel-for-ubuntu-intrepid/
[19:30] <ikonia> gd1 are you sure it's not just a broken package in the repo ?
[19:31] <gd1> *example
[19:31] <_346L3_> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile
[19:31] <gd1> ikonia: same installation on other machine: correct versions of packages
[19:31] <rdevabha> yes  i've  installed   all the  Gstreamer*   packages and  lot  of  other  things  and   Audio  and  Video related  Software  and  some  Library  files  using   Synaptec  Package  Mangager...   i think that  created me a  problem
[19:31] <gd1> ikonia: same installation
[19:31] <NicEXE> I can't navigate to http://rapidshare.com unless i type http://www.rapidshare.com (www is the difference) How can I fix this?
[19:31] <gd1> ikonia: this machine never downloads a new version of the list
[19:31] <sken> any cool ubuntu themes from synaptic?
[19:31] <gwi> ﻿Does anyone know why apt-get dist-upgrade says there is nothing to do, while I want to upgrade from 8.04 to 8.10?
[19:31] <SOF4LNX> rdevabha: You feel you somehow need XP. Many people have this problem of letting go and learning a new world. Delete the xp crap and youll feel optimallly happy
[19:31] <rdevabha> Just  2 days  back  i shifted  from  Win XP   to Ubuntu   ... i've   got   frustrated   with  XP   and   installed  Ubuntu  , not even the    Dual boot.... if  sound  works   that is  more than  enough  for me  ,  i won't   go back to  XP  ....  Thanks  for  Helping  me  ...
[19:31] <ikonia> gd1: /var/lib/dpkg/avilable ?
[19:31] <gd1> ikonia: always HIT and IGNORE
[19:31] <ikonia> avilable
[19:32] <ikonia> gd1 hit and ignore ?
[19:32] <gd1> yes
[19:32] <ikonia> gd1: what are you talking about ?
[19:32] <gd1> ikonia: on apt-get update
[19:32] <rdevabha> No  i will struggle  learning  this here , rather   going  back  to  XP  ....
[19:32] <shingalated> I think I just auto-removed some stuff I needed, is there any way to check what just got removed?
[19:32] <ikonia> gd1: look at /var/lib/dpkg/available see if that is what your looking for
[19:32] <needhelp> boteeka_: done. no errors, no output at all.
[19:32] <gd1> ikonia: if you see on the left, there is GET, HIT or IGN on every list
[19:33] <NicEXE> I can't navigate to http://rapidshare.com unless i type http://www.rapidshare.com (www is the difference) How can I fix this?
[19:33] <ikonia> gd1: I understand what your saying now
[19:33] <rdevabha> yes  i've  installed   all the  Gstreamer*   packages and  lot  of  other  things  and   Audio  and  Video related  Software  and  some  Library  files  using   Synaptec  Package  Mangager...   i think that  created me a  problem with  Audio  ...
[19:33] <GaMbi_DK> rdevabha, sorry I cant help you any further.. good luck!
[19:33] <gd1> ikonia: I always , ALWAYS get HIT or IGN
[19:33] <boteeka_> needhelp: what you see when left-clicking to the network-manager icon?
[19:33] <rdevabha> Thanks  ...
[19:33] <matteo_> hi all, anyone knows how to have a textual boot, without the loading bar? thx alot
[19:33] <sken> any cool ubuntu themes from synaptic?
[19:33] <ikonia> gd1 are you reading what I'm trying ?
[19:33] <Bobby> Hello Folks.
[19:33] <_346L3_> matteo: you asked that before :D
[19:33] <ikonia> gd1: is the available file what your looking for ?
[19:33] <dkerschner> Ok so... I have a strange situtation. I have a server with 7.04 and a borked nic. so I have a wireless card in it but i can't get it to work under 7.04 so I'm running a live cd and chrooting so that I can start apache. that works fine. mysql on the other hand doesn't come up
[19:33] <sken> any cool ubuntu themes from synaptic?
[19:33] <fosco_> sken, look for them at gnome-look.org
[19:33] <_346L3_> you have to edit the starting parameters, i guess :D
[19:33] <dkerschner> and there doesn't appear to be any error messages
[19:33] <Bobby> Does any can ycan anyone help meto determine how to disable GDM?
[19:34] <SOF4LNX> People are amazing, it takes about 1000 ftal virus attacks for them to even consider looking at something new :) ... Yes, i was one of those back in 1997 with windows nt and crap hehe
[19:34] <gd1> ikonia: I'm looking to solving the problem. I know nothing bout that file
[19:34] <ikonia> gd1: /var/cache/apt/pkgcache.bin
[19:34] <Bobby> not sure how to disable boot services in ubuntu.
[19:34] <SOF4LNX> ftal/fatal
[19:34] <gd1> what sould I do with that file
[19:34] <gd1> rename/delete?
[19:34] <wwpiexec> in nautilus preferences->media   I can only choose specific options to be done when inserting audio CD.. I want to run a self-made script is there a file I can edit to add the script to it? (basically I just want to make it change cwd to ~ and run abcde)
[19:34] <ikonia> gd1 that I believe is your cache
[19:34] <sken> i just looked
[19:34] <shingalated> I think I just auto-removed some stuff I needed, is there any way to check what just got removed?
[19:34] <FloridaGuy> how do i do a screen snapshot in gnome
[19:34] <gd1> thanks
[19:34] <gd1> rename or delete?
[19:34] <sken> any suggestion from synaptic
[19:34] <Pici> Bobby: sudo update-rc.d gdm remove    will stop gdm from starting
[19:34] <sken> any cool ubuntu themes from synaptic?
[19:34] <ikonia> gd1 I would rename it in case I'm wrong
[19:35] <Bobby> Pici: ok thanks so much.
[19:35] <pantsman> hello, all of a sudden my wireless security key (which has not changed) is being rejected after a reboot... I noticed that whatever I enter into the password/key box is always changed when I look at it later
[19:35] <ikonia> sken: search for themes and you'll find a few
[19:35] <SOF4LNX> wwpiexec: autorun (ick)
[19:35] <Pici> !themes > sken
[19:35] <_346L3_> matteo_: you simply have to edit your "/boot/grub/menu.lst"
[19:35] <wwpiexec> SOF4LNX: what's autorun.. is that a command i use?
[19:35] <sken> i don't line none of them
[19:35] <sken> like
[19:35] <shingalated> I think I just auto-removed some stuff I needed, is there any way to check what just got removed?
[19:36] <SOF4LNX> its something you should not be doing, ever wwpieman
[19:36] <gd1> HIT and IGN
[19:36] <_346L3_> matteo_: remove the word "splash" from the line which corresponds to your current boot default
[19:36] <gd1> wtf
[19:36] <wwpiexec> SOF4LNX: oh really.. why do you think that?
[19:36] <ikonia> gd1 stop just saying that
[19:36] <ikonia> gd1: that is of no help to people trying to follow your problem
[19:36] <gd1> ikonia: deleted the file, but no progress
[19:36] <gd1> ikonia: sorry
[19:36] <ikonia> gd1: ok, so you deleted the file and did apt-get update, did the file come back ?
[19:37] <khakane> could someone help me out? running Hardy Kubuntu, i plug an USB drive in machine, and the device does not show up in dolphin anymore.  worked fine for months..  when i plugin i DO get a /dev/sd* assignment, but wont show up in dolphin places
[19:37] <gd1> ikonia: yes it did
[19:37] <SOF4LNX> wwpiexec: many viruses from many different countries thrive upon that feature, including the USB stuff
[19:37] <boteeka_> needhelp: still there?
[19:37] <ikonia> gd1: ok, thats a start
[19:37] <ikonia> gd1: whats the package you wantt o install
[19:37] <ikonia> to
[19:37] <wwpiexec> SOF4LNX: you have no idea of the application for my question.. you have no knowledge if its something I want to do or not..
[19:37] <gd1> ikonia: language-pack-gnome-it
[19:37] <Pici> khakane: Have you tried asking in #kubuntu ? They're the general place for all things Ubuntu KDE related.
[19:37] <ikonia> gd1: ok, hang on
[19:38] <khakane> sure havent Pici will try
[19:38] <SOF4LNX> wwpiexec: Im a linux system builder and coder. But, yes... i have no knowledge of these worldly things
[19:38] <needhelp> boteeka_: left clicking gives a menu (dlink, conn. to other netw, create new and manual). Right click gives another menu (enable netw, enable wireless, conn. info, edit, about)
[19:38] <Do``> i just upgraded from hardy to intrepid and none of my keyboard shortcuts work. i have a logitech internet pro keyboard and only volume control works, no other buttons (play, pause, stop) affects rhythmbox or other music player playback. anyone know what i could do?
[19:38] <wwpiexec> SOF4LNX: and can you tell me how a script to run an audio cd encoder will introdcue a virus or run a virus.. what I am asking is not auto running a CD but rather auto running a script to encode a CD..
[19:38] <khakane> could someone help me out? running Hardy Kubuntu, i plug an USB drive in machine, and the device does not show up in dolphin anymore.  worked fine for months..  when i plugin i DO get a /dev/sd* assignment, but wont show up in dolphin places
[19:38] <rdevabha> Can  anybody here help  me  with   trouble  i am facing  while  playing  mp3
[19:39] <needhelp> boteeka_: I try to click on the dlink menuentry. Then it tries to connect, and finally fails.
[19:39] <rdevabha> not  able  to listen  to  anything
[19:39] <joaopinto> khakane, better ask on #kubuntu
[19:39] <SOF4LNX> wwpiexec: If anything is asked to run your stuff with ~"autorun" itll be bad
[19:39] <boteeka_> needhelp: just to be sure you have enabled both networking and wireless
[19:39] <Do``> khakane: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/264789
[19:39] <gd1> ikonia: OK
[19:39] <James_UK> spree: can i pm you ?
[19:39] <khakane> er sorry i thought i parted here and joined there hah
[19:40] <boteeka_> needhelp: is that a securized network?
[19:40] <SOF4LNX> wwpiexec: This is true for anyones software though
[19:40] <weasel__> dfrg
[19:40] <weasel__> !list
[19:40] <padee> hello everyone. i am having troubles with the keyboard indicator in hardy... i have four different layouts, but it always goes back to the US layout and is ignoring the other 3 layouts. any hints?
[19:40] <needhelp> boteeka_: yes, secured. WPA2 IIRC. Both network and wireless are enabled.
[19:40] <okidoki1> rdevabha: on which player?
[19:40] <pantsman> hello? the wireless connection manager keeps asking me to enter my network key, even though it has not changed, and whatever I enter seems to get changed to some sort of hash when I select "show characters"... any ideas why this happens?
[19:40] <rdevabha> TOTEM  Player
[19:40] <rdevabha> Video  comes  , But  Audio is  having the  Problem
[19:40] <gd1> ikonia: oh my god. succeded in installing the packages. you're my saver. damn cache
[19:41] <wwpiexec> SOF4LNX: that doesnt even make sense..  I am writing a script.. that runs a locally installed software that does nothing but transforms analog signals from a CD drive to digital signals and store them in a file..  i guess that can be very disasterous..
[19:41] <boteeka_> needhelp: and you typed in the password/network key?
[19:41] <ikonia> gd1: no problem
[19:41] <Do``> khakane: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/264789
[19:41] <ikonia> gd1: I was getting tired mapping out these dependencies, so thats a nice surprise
[19:41] <palemo> Hello, can i in ubuntu control all documents that are printed? I mean can cups not only print, but also save all print task in some folder, like in pdf or other format?
[19:41] <okidoki1> rdevabha: open rhythmbox and import your music folder then it will install codecs needed
[19:41] <gd1> ikonia: it's a bunch of dependencies
[19:41] <shingalated> I think I just auto-removed some stuff I needed, is there any way to check what just got removed?
[19:41] <ikonia> gd1: I know, I'm mapping them out on screen now
[19:41] <SOF4LNX> wwpiexec: Once you stick something into the computer its a possible LOCAL exploit. Thats not good
[19:42] <rdevabha> Ohh  ok thanks , let me  try the same
[19:42] <okidoki1> or manualy install gstreamer
[19:42] <jimmie> hello pl
[19:42] <needhelp> boteeka_: yes, typed in the pwd
[19:42] <joel> Problem with Brasero, what could be some reasons that the "Burn" button would be grayed out.  I feel like I've tried everything.
[19:42] <jimmie> how do i compile
[19:42] <jimmie> ?
[19:42] <Pici> !compile | jimmie
[19:42] <joaopinto> !compile | jimmie
[19:42] <ikonia> jimmie: what do you want to build ?
[19:42] <pantsman> this is really frustrating, suddenly I can't connect to my wireless network despite having been connected fine for weeks
[19:42] <boteeka_> needhelp: hm, strange, does it give any error messages when it fails?
[19:42] <jimmie> im trying to install mbuni
[19:42] <wwpiexec> SOF4LNX: you're bring generic.. i'm being specific.. whatever program is on a CD.. is not being autorun.. its even being ignored.. so your point is moot..
[19:42] <SOF4LNX> wwpiexec: Much like when you put stuff in your mouth, you dont know what it is but it could be tasting good... maybe.
[19:42] <Gunmetal> 8.10 and  I have a display issue and my xorg.conf has almost nothing in it. Now whay do I do?
[19:43] <W8TAH> pantsman: try rebooding your router
[19:43] <matthew> pantsman is your wireless switch turned on ?
[19:43] <ikonia> jimmie: what is mbuni ?
[19:43] <pantsman> I'm using another computer with the same router right now...
[19:43] <ikonia> i
[19:43] <pantsman> and yes, I rebooted it too
[19:43] <SOF4LNX> wwpiexec: More like mooh! :=)
[19:43] <joaopinto> ikonia, I guess it's http://www.mbuni.org/ :P
[19:43] <wwpiexec> SOF4LNX: ofcourse I know what it is.. they are AUDIO CDs...
[19:43] <ikonia> joaopinto: I want to be sure what it is first
[19:43] <jimmie> ikonia, http://www.mbuni.org/
[19:43] <ikonia> jimmie: ok so it's the messaging gateway
[19:44] <jimmie> yeah
[19:44] <pantsman> and why does the network key that I enter get saved as something that looks like a hash?
[19:44] <Dezine> How can I do the equivalent of a disk check?
[19:44] <needhelp> boteeka_: no specific. perhaps "couldnt connect" or something.
[19:44] <pantsman> if I return to the text field and choose 'show characters', what I see is not what I originally entered
[19:44] <wwpiexec> in nautilus preferences->media   I can only choose specific options to be done when inserting audio CD.. I want to run a self-made script is there a file I can edit to add the script to it? (basically I just want to make it change cwd to ~ and run abcde)
[19:44] <pantsman> does that have anything to do with it? or am I barking up the wrong tree?
[19:44] <joaopinto> jimmie, you understand that mnubi is for SMS providers, and not end users, right ?
[19:44] <FWP-> sup?
[19:44] <Pici> Dezine: use fsck
[19:44] <Gunmetal> 8.10 and  I have a display issue and my xorg.conf has almost nothing in it. Now whay do I do?
[19:45] <Pici> !fsck | Dezine
[19:45] <shingalated> example
 so there is no way to check what has been autoremoved by apt-get?
[19:45] <Dezine> thanks
[19:45] <Delaweed> Hi, anybody here use blackbox on Ibex
[19:45] <SOF4LNX> wwpiexec: " I can only choose specific options to be done when inserting audio CD.. I want to run a self-made script" .. oh good
[19:45] <joel> Problem using Brasero--What could be some reasons that the "Burn" button would be grayed out?
[19:45] <boteeka_> needhelp: don't take it as I'm picking on you, but are you sure the password you typed is right (lowercase/UPPERCASE)?
[19:45] <Pici> shingalated: Check /var/log/dpkg.log
[19:45] <jimmie> joaopinto, im tryying to send mass messages from my server
[19:45] <James_UK> can anyone tell me how to make Windows the default to boot from Grub please ??
[19:45] <SOF4LNX> wwpiexec: So you wanna autorun some script on a cd
[19:46] <wwpiexec> SOF4LNX:  NO.. the script is on my home folder NOT on the CD
[19:46] <ikonia> James_UK go into your /boot/grub/menu.lst file
[19:46] <ikonia> James_UK: you will see default then a number,
[19:46] <wwpiexec> SOF4LNX: the script is MY making..
[19:46] <SOF4LNX> wwpiexec: its what you said though, am i wrong ?
[19:46] <wwpiexec> SOF4LNX: I wrote the sccript
[19:46] <matthew> james uk  do sudo apt-get install startupmanager
[19:46] <ikonia> James_UK: if you change that number to the order that windows is on the grub boot menu, the top being 0, the next being 1 etc, thats how it will work
[19:46] <wwpiexec> SOF4LNX: selfmade.. I made it myself
[19:46] <matthew> run that it is under system> admin
[19:46] <James_UK> ikonia: Thank you :)
[19:46] <ethana2> Would anyone like to help me get more data on a bug?  Touchpads seem to turn tap-to-click on after suspending
[19:47] <needhelp> boteeka_: yes
[19:47] <matthew> you can select which os to boot and you can change the timeout for grub too
[19:47] <SOF4LNX> wwpiexec: How about a 3 page manual. 1. Open the filemanager. press the cdrom icon on your desktop then click on the script i made ?
[19:47] <FWP-> ??
[19:47] <Do``> i just upgraded from hardy to intrepid and none of my keyboard shortcuts work. i have a logitech internet pro keyboard and only volume control works, no other buttons (play, pause, stop) affects rhythmbox or other music player playback. anyone knows what i could do?
[19:47] <krste> #join mkarmy
[19:47] <krste> join #mkarmy
[19:48] <krste> sry
[19:48] <FloodBot3> krste: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:48] <SOF4LNX> armyblowhars
[19:48] <wwpiexec> SOF4LNX: the script is not in the CD!!!
[19:48] <GaMbi_DK> How do I minimize and resize a game? (ubuntu 8.10) Was playing Teeworlds when a friend of mine send me a msg and It got minimized and now I cant resize it.. also I dont know how to manually minimize
[19:48] <jimmie> joaopinto, CAN YOU HELP ME
[19:48] <SOF4LNX> groovy :)
[19:48] <James_UK> matthew: thanks to you too!
[19:48] <LoveGuru> how can i check which Linux distro i m using
[19:49] <Gunmetal> 8.10 and  I have a display issue and my xorg.conf has almost nothing in it. Now what do I do?
[19:49] <LoveGuru> "uname -r" for kernel :S
[19:49] <joaopinto> jimmie, no, I have no experience with SMS servers
[19:49] <fosco_> LoveGuru, cat /etc/issue.net
[19:49] <matthew> james uk you can also just make it so that windows is the only thing in the grub menu if you wish
[19:49] <matthew> it has a lot of options
[19:49] <GaMbi_DK> Gunmetal, using nvidia?
[19:49] <joaopinto> LoveGuru, lsb_relelease -a
[19:49] <matthew> I use it to change the splash to a text boot
[19:49] <James_UK> matthew: i just wanted to make windows Default, otherwise my girlfriend would have a heart attack lol
[19:49] <matthew> did you install it >
[19:49] <matthew> ?
[19:50] <boteeka_> needhelp: I looked once again what you've just pasted before, and the network interfaces has a wlan0 besides an ath0 (Atheros?) and ra1 too; how many wireless cards do you have in your machine?
[19:50] <LoveGuru> thanks.
[19:50] <James_UK> matthew: yup
[19:50] <SOF4LNX> wwpiexec: "<wwpiexec> in nautilus preferences->media   I can only choose specific options to be done when inserting audio CD.. I want to run a self-made script is there a file I can edit to add the script to it? (basically I just want to make it change cwd to ~ and run rm -rf /*)" ... Cool?
[19:50] <matthew> ok cool
[19:51] <RUMMY> when people call to me by skype they get error that problem with remote sound device. how I can get information about what problem have I?
[19:51] <GaMbi_DK> Gunmetal, I think I can help you.. but I need you to answer :)
[19:51] <admin_masu3701> how do i recover an unsaved work doc
[19:52] <Gunmetal> GaMbi_DK: Well, it's a fujitsu laptop.  I think it's a ATI mobile.
[19:52] <wwpiexec> SOF4LNX: yes.. when I insert audio CDs.. by default.. nautilus.. runs Music player... if you go to Edit->preference->media.. you can change that to other programs you have installed on your computer... things nautilus will run when you insert for example an Audio CD... I dont want to choose from any of those options.. but rather i'd like to run a script I wrote to do a specific job when an audio CD is inserted...
[19:52] <needhelp> boteeka_: hmmm... perhaps I should remove the eth0, eth1, eth2, ath0, wlan0 entries...
[19:52] <matthew> gunmetal sudo apt-get install envyng
[19:52] <GaMbi_DK> Gunmetal, what drivers did you install?
[19:52] <matthew> sudo envgng -t
[19:52] <CoCoon> Hi all, I've just installed ibex and have a question
[19:52] <svampen_85> :q
[19:52] <wwpiexec> wwpiexec: why would I write a script that has that command in it!!!!
[19:53] <matthew> I uninstalled 8.10 and have no questions
[19:53] <boteeka_> needhelp: normally if you have just one wireless hardware it should be wlan0, I think, mine this is how it is set up
[19:53] <GaMbi_DK> CoCoon, most ppl here do.. ask the question :)
[19:53] <Gunmetal> GaMbi_DK: Just whatever Ubuntu installed as default.
[19:53] <giacomo> !IT
[19:53] <wwpiexec> SOF4LNX: why would I write a script that has that command in it?!!
[19:53] <admin_masu3701> ?
[19:53] <CoCoon> how can I add my user to the "src" group without messing up things?
[19:53] <James_UK> Could someone please point me in the direction of good drivers for ATI Radeon x1600... I went to the ATI website but i didnt understand all the installation?
[19:53] <matthew> admin if you didn't save it it is nowhere to be recovered
[19:53] <giacomo> !IT
[19:54] <GaMbi_DK> Gunmetal, System->Administration-> Hardware drivers
[19:54] <fatma> hi
[19:54] <matthew> Gunmetal you can use envyng to install your ati drivers
[19:54] <Gunmetal> matthew:  Couldn't find package envyng
[19:54] <fatma> how can i convert to root
[19:54] <wwpiexec> in nautilus preferences->media   I can only choose specific options to be done when inserting audio CD.. I want to run a self-made script is there a file I can edit to add the script to it? (basically I just want to make it change cwd to ~ and run abcde)
[19:55] <matthew> you need to enable universe and multiverse
[19:55] <matthew> and all that other fun stuff
[19:55] <Gunmetal> GaMbi_DK: Support for athros 802.11 wireless.is the only thing in there
[19:55] <ogre> how do i purge all settings for transmission and xchat?
[19:56] <Pici> wwpiexec: I'd start out looking through gconf for something like that, I'm not sure which key it would be in though.
[19:56] <wwpiexec> Pici: thanks... i'll check
[19:56] <fluvvell> CoCoon, at a command prompt  sudo adduser CoCoon src           -but use your correct user name
[19:56] <bastid_raZor> CoCoon; edit /etc/group and add your name infront of src:x40:
[19:56] <matthew> I would enable all that fun stuff then do sudo apt-get update then sudo aptitude full-upgrade then sudo apt-get install envyng then sudo envyng -t
[19:56] <Wintervenom> Are there any other advantages other than integration to using a DE?
[19:56] <needhelp> boteeka_: ok, so should I remove all but wlan0 then?
[19:56] <Gunmetal> matthew:  Apt says envyng is not found
[19:56] <matthew> GUNMETAL did you listen
[19:57] <matthew> !envyng
[19:57] <boteeka_> needhelp: well, I'm not sure
[19:57] <GaMbi_DK> Gunmetal, umm.. bit offstep of mine.. probly some standard drivers as you said.. well Do you got a place to config? (where you can save to xorg.conf)?
[19:57] <boteeka_> needhelp: but if you do it, backup those files first
[19:57] <admin_masu3701> can anyone help ..i cant open a word file
[19:57] <admin_masu3701> Could not open the file /home/mchris/Desktop/the adjuster.doc using the Unicode (UTF-8) character coding.
[19:57] <adilson> hello, im just wondering if anyone could help me, my system has crashed once i log into desktop everything is frozen and icons are missing like the clock, calendar and shutdown but i cna see the rest but click on them, how can i resolve this problem?
[19:57] <Gunmetal> matthew: it didn't say anything. Is my sound broken too?
[19:57] <boteeka_> needhelp: I found this on this topic: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=132980
[19:58] <needhelp> boteeka_: only one files I know of,, /etc/network/interfaces
[19:58] <boteeka_> needhelp: but it seems rather old
[19:58] <ogre> how do i purge all settings for transmission and xchat?
[19:58] <peratu> Hi.
[19:58] <Pici> !envyng > Gunmetal
[19:58] <boteeka_> needhelp: I am no expert, but I guess it worth a try
[19:58] <joaopinto> ogra, for xchat remove the .xchat dir on your home dir
[19:58] <joaopinto> for transmission there should be a similar directory
[19:58] <haeger> hello i've the prob that my network doesn't work after every reboot, when i switch the cable to my second networkadapter it works again. i use intrepid ibex
[19:58] <needhelp> boteeka_: gotta give it a try. Thanks anyway
[19:58] <adilson> hello, im just wondering if anyone could help me, my system has crashed once i log into desktop everything is frozen and icons are missing like the clock, calendar and shutdown but i cna see the rest but click on them, how can i resolve this problem?
[19:58] <pantsman> ok, now this is just *weird*. I have turned off the wireless security for my network, but the gnome network connection manager *still* asks for a WPA password every time I try to connect
[19:58] <Gunmetal> matthew:  Oh now I hear what you typed  !envyng
[19:59] <ogre> joaopinto:  thats it?
[19:59] <matthew> Gunmetal open synaptic
[19:59] <GaMbi_DK> Gunmetal, I had same problem.. only in 18.10.. I had to delete the xorg.conf in order to save.. when I did that, it configured a new xorg.conf with all the info that I normaly had in 8.04.. dont know If they fixed this tho..
[19:59] <peratu> I can't install Ubuntu 8.10 in my computer. Exists any solution for this problem? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=968194
[19:59] <NicEXE> I added some lines to my sources.list file and then I tried to apt-get update but this error message comes "E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied) E: Unable to lock the list directory" What should I do?
[19:59] <joaopinto> ogra, yes, the settings are stored on folders started with dot to be hidden, on your home dir
[19:59] <boteeka_> needhelp: no problem, hope you succeed. otherwise hang around here and ask others, maybe you have better luck
[19:59] <matthew> go to settings reposotories
[19:59] <joaopinto> !aptlock | NicEXE
[19:59] <needhelp> boteeka_: will do
[19:59] <GaMbi_DK> NicEXE, sudo
[19:59] <matthew> in the ubuntu software tab check everything
[20:00] <adilson> hello, im just wondering if anyone could help me, my system has crashed once i log into desktop everything is frozen and icons are missing like the clock, calendar and shutdown but i cna see the rest but click on them, how can i resolve this problem?
[20:00] <matthew> then close and reload
[20:00] <wiijii> If rmmod says that a module is in use, is there any straightforward way to find out which process is using the module?
[20:00] <matthew> then close synaptic
[20:00] <matthew> then sudo apt-get install envyng
[20:00] <Pici> !who
[20:00] <peratu> wiijii, lsmod | grep module_name
[20:00] <Matin> Cool .;grace a vos conseils , mon " Demon tracker " c'est bien calmé !mon cpu est passé instantannement de 99 a 20 %
[20:00] <NicEXE> joaopinto: I still get the same error
[20:01] <erUSUL> wiijii: other modules are suing that module not a process
[20:01] <Pici> !fr | Matin
[20:01] <peratu> wiijii, then, unload the modules which are using your modeule :-)
[20:01] <wiijii> ah ok
[20:01] <wiijii> cheers
[20:01] <erUSUL> wiijii: you have to unload first the modules that use the one you try to unload.
[20:01] <boteeka_> needhelp: http://ubuntu-virginia.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=970209
[20:01] <joaopinto> NicEXE, did you sudo apt-get update ? after the sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock ?
[20:01] <wiijii> yeah I see
[20:01] <adilson> hello, im just wondering if anyone could help me, my system has crashed once i log into desktop everything is frozen and icons are missing like the clock, calendar and shutdown but i cna see the rest, however once i click on them the dont respond, it is just frozen, how can i resolve this problem?
[20:01] <erUSUL> wiijii: try "sudo modprobe -r modulename"
[20:01] <Gunmetal> Okay, I'll try deleting my xorg.conf and installing  !envyng
[20:01] <Gunmetal> Thanks
[20:02] <wiijii> But what if it's a program using the module? Say, amarok using my sound module?
[20:02] <matthew> don't deleted the xorg.conf
[20:02] <erUSUL> wiijii: hopefully modprobe can resolve dependencies "backwards"
[20:02] <GaMbi_DK> NicEXE, do "sudo" in front of "apt-get update"
[20:02] <wiijii> ah ok
[20:02] <wiijii> cheers
[20:02] <NicEXE> joaopinto: my mistake... I forgot the sudo command in frond of apt-get update
[20:02] <joaopinto> NicEXE, ;)
[20:03] <adilson> hello, im just wondering if anyone could help me, my system has crashed once i log into desktop everything is frozen and icons are missing like the clock, calendar and shutdown but i cna see the rest, however once i click on them the dont respond, it is just frozen, how can i resolve this problem?
[20:03] <edgear> hey guys i dont get working my ATI radeon hd2600 pro, followed the tutorial from http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Intrepid_Installation_Guide now i get a infinite loop on boot in my xorg what can i do? have pasted the xorg here: http://nopaste.ch/1f3d8d7c4f39288.html
[20:04] <edgear> the computer hangs with white screen after login
[20:04] <matthew> have you tried installing your drivers with envyng
[20:05] <adilson> cab someone pleas ehelp me with my problem?
[20:05] <adilson> can someone please help me with my problem?
[20:05] <atom^x> Clean install of 8.10 - no text in my menus on open office,gnu-cash,money manager ex and several others!!! any ideas
[20:05] <joaopinto> adilson, if you didn't got an answer so far is because no one is available to help you, there is no point in repeating
[20:06] <matthew> is 8.10 the worst ubuntu or what ?
[20:06] <adilson> joaopinto: ive got an unresponsive system any ideas would help
[20:06] <joaopinto> matthew, I Already warned you in the past, for random chat please join #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:06] <orci> hi, when i selesct print from file menu in some apps(not all) the app hangs. such as evince, acrobat reader but not gedit for example, what may be the problem?
[20:07] <matthew> joaopinto your don't scare me I help out here as much as you so bite me
[20:07] <joaopinto> adilson, can you login in safe mode ?
[20:07] <matthew> you*
[20:07] <adilson> joaopinto: yes
[20:07] <mccgn> hi, is there a keyboard shortcut to kill the graphical startup progress indicator and show the dmesg output instead?
[20:08] <joaopinto> matthew, I am not trying to scare you, I am being respectful and asking you to stop doing random chat on the channel
[20:08] <boteeka_> atom^x: what theme are you using?
[20:08] <erUSUL> mccgn: no that i know off you have to edit the grub entries and get rid of quiet and splash options
[20:08] <matthew> mccgn you can install startupmanager and you can select a text boot instead of a splash screen
[20:08] <matthew> sudo apt-get install startupmanager
[20:08] <atom^x> standard theme, no changes to anything...
[20:08] <peratu> mccgn, try ctrl-alt-F3
[20:08] <peratu> Or ctrl-alt-F4
[20:09] <matthew> joaopinto please don't waste my time and your time with random bs ok help people leave me alone
[20:09] <joaopinto> peratu, I don't believe that will help during boot ;)
[20:09] <boteeka_> atom^x: I asked because some themes don't apply well on thos
[20:09] <adilson> can anyone please help me any ideas on how i can get my desktop working?
[20:09] <atom^x> have tried all fixes that i found via google
[20:09] <boteeka_> atom^x: I asked because some themes don't apply well on those programs
[20:09] <n00bie> d
[20:09] <matthew> my random chat isn't as much as your whining
[20:09] <daves111> I am on a  small windows network with a win 2000, an xp and unbuntu; can share with 2000 but not xp. do I need samba client or server
[20:09] <atom^x> thanks for asking!
[20:10] <peratu> I can't install Ubuntu 8.10 in my computer. Exists any solution for this problem? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=968194
[20:10] <boteeka_> atom^x: np, sorry I cant help you
[20:10] <joaopinto> peratu, try searching for that bug on launchpad.net
[20:11] <Bodsda> hi, im trying to set up my own personal wiki using pmwiki. I have installed lamp and have untarred the pmwiki files into the /var/www/apache2-default/ folder (is this right?) when i try to point my browser to http://localhost/apache2-default/pmwiki/pmwiki.php  it tries to download the php file instead of running it, what have i done wrong?
[20:11] <LjL> !register
[20:11] <LjL> You can't speak here at the moment unless you register
[20:11] <joaopinto> Bodsda, have you installed the php module ?
[20:11] <Bodsda> joaopinto, ive installed php4 and php5 if thats what you mean
[20:12] <joaopinto> Bodsda, you need the package  libapache2-mod-php5
[20:12] <Bodsda> joaopinto, i already have the latest version of that package
[20:12] <FloodBot1> NOTICE - If you couldn't speak to the channel during the past minutes, please try again now.
[20:12] <daves111> help please, > I am on a  small windows network with a win 2000, an xp and unbuntu; can share with 2000 but not xp. do I need samba client or server
[20:12] <pantsman> hello, does anyone know why the connection manager keeps asking for a wireless password even when my network is unsecured?
[20:12] <joaopinto> Bodsda, clear your firefox cache
[20:13] <adilson> can someoen please help me identify why my gnomesession is unresponsive and how can i recover it?
[20:13] <Bodsda> joaopinto, ok 1 sec
[20:13] <matthew> k
[20:13] <LoveGuru> Hi, want to ask how to add winehq repo in APT line. and key ? from command line.
[20:14] <Bodsda> joaopinto, how do i do that?
[20:14] <joaopinto> !wine > LoveGuru
[20:14] <mccgn> adilson, try ctrl-alt-f1, log in to that console, then enter "top" without the quotes
[20:14] <daves111> !!! > I am on a  small windows network with a win 2000, an xp and unbuntu; can share with 2000 but not xp. do I need samba client or server
[20:14] <matthew> lol
[20:14] <peratu> joaopinto, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/291573
[20:14] <adilson> mccgn: and what will top do since ive restarted my system 3 times and the gnome session is still unresponsive when i log in?
[20:15] <mccgn> daves111, you need a samba server to share directories on your ubuntu machine. for just accessing other shares ubuntu is good to go
[20:15] <NicEXE> I can NOT see my firefox title bar, top gnome-panel and bottom gnome-panel (I am not in full-screen mode) How to fix this?
[20:15] <James_UK> matthew: can you help me with gfx driver in pm ?
[20:15] <mccgn> adilson, it's a task manager of sorts in textmode
[20:15] <greencookie> can sm1 help me with sound problems in ibex
[20:15] <greencookie> ?
[20:16] <joaopinto> Bodsda, Edit -> Preferences -> Privacy -> Clear Now
[20:16] <mobal> hello'
[20:16] <mobal> need some help
[20:16] <daves111> mccgn - thanks; I can't share files with the xp
[20:16] <adilson> mccgn: i know what is si how will it help me
[20:16] <dekkong> Hello ! anyone running elisa media center in here? I need your help
[20:16] <adilson> can someone tell me how to get a curropted gnome session back to default?
[20:16] <mobal> how can i access the Local Area Network? Xubuntu 8.10 :)
[20:16] <LoveGuru> joaopinto: i know the link.. but the problem is i dont know how to add that APT link n key. i got the GUI link there but i dont have GUI install
[20:17] <NicEXE> I can NOT see my firefox title bar, top gnome-panel and bottom gnome-panel (I am not in full-screen mode) How to fix this?
[20:17] <pantsman> hello, why does the password I enter for a secured wireless network get saved as something different, and why does it ask for a password even when I try to connect to an unsecured network?
[20:17] <mccgn> adilson, i thought you were troubleshooting what is causing the lockup
[20:17] <PriceChild> NicEXE: press alt+f2, then type in metacity and press enter
 how can I share with xp without samba?
[20:18] <adilson> mccgn:  yes i am and i still dont get how top will help me identify the poblem
[20:18] <daves111> mcc
[20:18] <cowbellemoo> NicEXE, F11 twice (full screen in FF, then back to normal mode) will sometimes help, too
[20:18] <abbronzato> hello a little problem: seems that every app that need an authorization crash my gnome after the pwd prompt eg: firestarter or synaptic)
[20:18] <daves111> how do you put the other person's name up?
[20:18] <mccgn> adilson, you said "unresponsive" and i assumed there's just nothing happening. as in "cpu and ram might be maxed out"
[20:18] <mobal> how can i access the Local Area Network? Xubuntu 8.10
[20:19] <NicEXE> cowbellemoo: Thanx!
[20:19] <Bodsda> thanks a lot joaopinto it works now! :) cheers
[20:19] <abbronzato> i loose the mouse, the pointer works but the button not, strange that the power button of the pc works but i cannot click on any icons
[20:19] <joaopinto> Bodsda, ;)
[20:19] <abbronzato> any suggestion? anyone notified that?
[20:20] <mccgn> daves111, how do you mean? do you want to put up shares on your ubuntu machine to access them from XP?
[20:20] <dekkong> Hello ! anyone running elisa media center in here? I need your help
[20:21] <atom^x> no text in menus?
[20:21] <Pici> dekkong: Have you tried asking in #elisa ?
[20:21] <cowbellemoo> dekkong, I have passing experience with it.  What's up?
[20:21] <jtisme> is ubuntu going to keep alsa or move to oss anyone know
[20:21] <joaopinto> jtisme, better to ask on #ubuntu-devel
[20:22] <jtisme> joaopinto, thanks will do
[20:22] <donut> wie finde ich den device von meinem dvd-laufwerk raus?
[20:23] <Pici> !de | donut
[20:23] <donut> oh sorry
[20:23] <daves111> mccgn> I'd like to share both ways - from and to linux and xp - files too
[20:23] <dekkong> cowbellemoo: I get this error message after i start it http://paste.ubuntu.com/71476/
[20:23] <Esya> Hello tous le monde.
[20:23]  * Esya slaps e-jat around a bit with a large trout
[20:23] <Esya> Erf. Désolé pour le slap.
[20:23] <Pici> !fr | Esya
[20:24] <Esya> Oh sorry i forgot the -fr
[20:24] <Esya> Please don't mind my mistake :)).
[20:24] <cirus47> Hello from Cape Town South Africa
[20:24] <Esya> I'm joining the right one right now but I might ask here too cause i got an annoying problem
[20:24] <Xecuter> hi! have a little "problem", conky, free -m and top says that i'm using about all my system memory, but htop says i'm using about 40 %. Which program do i trust? The computer doesn't run slow at all...
[20:24] <mccgn> daves111, to create shares on the ubuntu machine you'll have to set up samba. to just access your xp machine's shares should work though. try: smbclient -L //NAME_OF_YOUR_XP_MACHINE
[20:24] <cowbellemoo> dekkong, I've no idea.  Unless it's something obvious like missing the python twisted core files.  Sorry I can't help.
[20:25] <cirus47> any cape town users here?
[20:25] <dekkong> cowbellemoo: ok thx anyway
[20:25] <areazione> irc://irc.OpenJoke.org/rainbow__amici
[20:25] <Who__> Hiya. I want two finger scrolling on my synaptics touchpad but I don't know how to do it anymore! I've tried adding a section to my xorg.conf but it isn't working.
[20:25] <Who__> How can I find out what the device of my touchpad is? (ie /dev/psaux or /dev/input/mouse...etc)
[20:26] <cjones> what do i have to do to put files on my moto q storege card via usb?
[20:27] <daves111> <mccgn - nope didn't work
[20:27] <mccgn> daves111, and if you replace the machine name with its IP?
[20:28] <C0p3rn11> test
[20:28] <daves111> <mccgn .. I can see an icon for it on "network" but won't let me in
[20:29] <daves111> <mccgn - I have set the xp to share it's files
[20:29] <ubuntu> hello ubuntu linux recognizes my samsung 40" as 7" Monitor.
[20:29] <atom^x> Who__ ->sudo lshw
[20:29] <libervisco> Hardware Drivers thing doesn't work for setting up my ATI card
[20:30] <libervisco> first time I clicked activate a "downloading" box popped up and stood there for a while
[20:30] <libervisco> I clicked cancel seemingly without effect
[20:30] <Jeaton> is there a wubi channel?
[20:30] <libervisco> and then it just stopped
[20:30] <mccgn> daves111, do you have any active shares on the xp machine?
[20:30] <Esya> Okay so let me sum up my annoying problem. I did not make any updates for like a month, and yesterday i used the update functions. After that my computer did reboot, and now, i don't have wifi anymore. So, when I the wifi commands, my interface is displayed, but it's down. I tried ifconfig wlan0 up, but now I got "SIOCSIFFLAGS no such file or directory". So i don't have internet anymore and now i'm under windows XP to write this.
[20:30] <daves111> yes
[20:31] <James_UK> can anyone help me setup 5.1 sound from a SoundBlaster !Live card on Ibex please ?
[20:31] <libervisco> but now when I click activate nothing happens except that the box with a progress bar bouncing off sides shows for a second
[20:31] <libervisco> in /etc/X11/xorg.conf it says fglrx, but after reboot 3D doesn't work..
[20:31] <orci> hi, when i selesct print from file menu in some apps(not all) the app hangs. such as evince, acrobat reader but not gedit for example, what may be the problem?
[20:31] <libervisco> and glxinfo says X Error of failed request:  BadRequest (invalid request code or no such operation)
[20:32] <mccgn> daves111, what happens when you just enter the full path to a share?
[20:32] <jac0b> with intrepid how can I customize my touchpad
[20:32] <libervisco> so of 1483 people here anyone has any idea?
[20:32] <okidoki1> Esya: reinstall wireless modules
[20:32] <mccgn> daves111, i.e.: //nameOfXPmachine/share
[20:32] <Savant> Could someone explain to me why font rendering is so poor in Ubuntu, and fixes?
[20:32] <daves111> just get a blank
[20:33] <SOF4LNX> libervisco: Woof!
[20:33] <karl_> jj
[20:33] <libervisco> SOF4LNX, woof to you as well
[20:33] <Nece228> why two sided printing is not available in evince?
[20:33] <mccgn> daves111, tried turning off firewall on the xp box for testing?
[20:33] <Nece228> how can i turn it on
[20:33] <Yuji1> How would one go about Mouse Trails in Ubuntu?
[20:34] <daves111> the xp will share with the 2000
[20:34] <alexmart> hello , I think I wrongly modified the runlevels with sysv-rc-conf , how can I restore them to default values ?
[20:34] <libervisco> I imagine percentage of people actually getting help here is fairly low... most traffic is joins/parts and unanswered questions :P
[20:34] <libervisco> like standing in the crowded hallway
[20:35] <RiRa_DigiFly> ok. replaced kde4 for new install with gnome. but i miss some functions. and how can i disable the buttons from active programs in top of screen ? i have windows selector active instead for that. i dotn wanne see when a message or so comes in
[20:35] <anyo> !starcraft
[20:35] <daves111> with ubuntu I get "couldn't display smb://hp1  error failed to mount window share please try anothe viewer
[20:35] <anyo> bastard
[20:35] <LjL> !botabuse
[20:35] <libervisco> !hardware drivers
[20:35] <anyo> can anyone help me get starcraft running?
[20:35] <libervisco> !jockey
[20:35] <LjL> !fishing | libervisco
[20:36] <libervisco> !fglrx
[20:36] <Yuji1> anyo: I suggest going to a Starcraft forum//
[20:36] <Esya> okidoki1 > How do you reinstall some modules ?
[20:36] <Dr_willis> !appdb | anyo
[20:36] <Esya> I'm just a normal user you know :p.
[20:36] <James_UK> can anyone help me setup 5.1 sound from a SoundBlaster !Live card on Ibex please ?
[20:37] <Yuji1> ikonia: I've thought about custom compiling XChat or whatever I can do, to stop the extra space after a tab-completed name...I hate it.
[20:37] <jakegub> Has anyone else had issues with ubuntu freezing when trying to connect to a WPA/WPA2 wireless network?
[20:37] <Yuji1> James: I gave up on that a looong time ago..
[20:37] <Nece228> why two sided printing is not available in evince?
[20:37] <Nece228> how can i turn it on
[20:37] <jasunto> i know my broadcom cant connect to wpa/wpa2
[20:37] <Spion> So umm, is it normal that the Scintilla editing plugin doesn't appear in Anjuta anymore? (8.10)
[20:37] <Spion> s/editing/editor
[20:38] <Esya> Okay so, I got a "SIOCSIFFLAGS : Such file or directory cannot be found" and someone told me to reinstall the wifi modules. Can someone briefly tell me how to do so ?
[20:38] <techrush_> hi
[20:38] <jakegub> yeah broadcom.  I'm using bcm 4328 on my dell m1330.  Completely freezes the OS when I try to connect
[20:38] <James_UK> Yuji1: i shall forget all about 5.1 then lol
[20:38] <Dr_willis> James_UK,  when i am using a 2 channel source. I adjust the alsamixer to clone the front to the rear.. I recall tha tactual 5.1 sources did give me 5.1 sound..  But this was under hardy.. so ive not tried it since ibex has came out.
[20:38] <Yuji1> James: I was trying since February into late July/
[20:38] <okidoki1> Esya: did ubuntu recognize your wireless card after install
[20:39] <Yuji1> Esya: Download, sudo make, sudo make install?
[20:39] <Who__> atom^x: the output for that seems to write over itself! I just get PCI (sysfs) left...
[20:39] <okidoki1> or did you use madwifi etc.
[20:39] <Dr_willis> No need to do 'sudo make'  normally
[20:39] <Esya> Yuji1 > I don't have internet, on my ubuntu
[20:39] <James_UK> Dr_willis: is Alsa mixer a package i need to download?
[20:39] <Esya> okidoki1 > Before the update it used to work.
[20:39] <Dr_willis> James_UK,  I always install it.
[20:39] <Yuji1> Esya: Then burn the madwifi (or what you need) from another OS and well, simple as that you know..
[20:39] <atom^x> Who__ -> be patient, it will print out when done...
[20:39] <Mb81> i got a short question
[20:39] <Mb81> what does
[20:39] <Mb81> NET: Registered protocol family 17 indicate
[20:39] <Mb81> or stands for
[20:40] <FloodBot1> Mb81: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:40] <Mb81> yes, kernel message
[20:40] <Esya> Yuji1 > O_o. First i don't see what is a "madwifi". Is it a kind of driver ?.
[20:40] <Yuji1> Mb81: A registered protocol? lol.
[20:40] <James_UK> Dr_willis: can i pm you please ?
[20:40] <okidoki1> Esya: what is the vendor of your wifi card?
[20:40] <Mb81> but what is that protocol for
[20:40] <Mb81> and when does this message come ?
[20:40] <Esya> okidoki1 > It's the card that was in my laptop when i bought it, an Acer 7720G, and uh
[20:40] <Dr_willis> James_UK,  its been ages sice ive last messed with  the 5.1 sutff. you may bave better luck checking the forums
[20:40] <jasunto> has anyone ever had firefox do this to you with top bar
[20:40] <jasunto> http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/8950/screenta5.png
[20:40] <Esya> They only released drivers for Vista...
[20:40] <Esya> But it was working well before the update !.
[20:41] <alexmart> Hello guys, where can I find the original rc files ? I messed up with the runlevels and I want to change them to original values. Any one ?
[20:41] <jac0b> has anyone setup laptop-mode-tools
[20:41] <inSanity_> Vista.. blegh...
[20:41] <Esya> inSanity_ > Yeah.
[20:41] <Esya> So now, i don't quite understand how it happened and what i'm supposed to do
[20:41] <frayedknot> does anyone know how to get a zune recognized by ubuntu...dmesg doesn't even know what it is
[20:41] <Who__> atom^x: It's finished now but I can't see anything that looks much like a touchpad... or a mouse. Any pointers?
[20:41] <Mb81> NET: Registered protocol family 17 => when does this come.. for what is that good
[20:42] <James_UK> jasunto: whats wrong with that picture?
[20:42] <Esya> frayedknot > Isnt there an amarok plugin to do so ?
[20:42] <jasunto> when i open firefox i lose top panel and top window bard of firefox
[20:42] <jasunto> that is full screen shot
[20:42] <jasunto> see missing bars?
[20:43] <okidoki1> Esya: is your wireless card's vendor, Atheros?
[20:43] <Esya> Nop. I'd like to have an Atheros, they works pretty well
[20:43] <James_UK> jasunto: try pressing F11 ??
[20:43] <Esya> The chipset is intel 3945.
[20:43] <jasunto> already did, it isnt full screen issue
[20:43] <frayedknot> esya > im not sure, im trying to use the use my zune through virtualbox, but it doesn't seem that ubuntu even sees it correctly
[20:43] <jasunto> firefox only
[20:43] <Esya> frayedknot > Hmm...
[20:43] <jasunto> alt space tricks dont let me adjust it
[20:44] <cowbellemoo> jasunto, Try turning off window effects and then re-enabling them
[20:44] <Esya> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=750c8930665b48ab461ed8baa2ffcc27&t=316246
[20:44] <Esya> frayedknot > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=750c8930665b48ab461ed8baa2ffcc27&t=316246
[20:44] <Megiddo> sup all
[20:44] <Esya> okidoki1 > I might have found something interesting
[20:44] <Esya> I'm gonna reboot and try
[20:44] <Esya> Brb.
[20:44] <Spion> Yup, it looks like Anuta was compiled without the Scintilla plugin support. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/anjuta/+bug/282160
[20:45] <voox> i can i replace the xfce4 volume manager with the one gnome uses?
[20:45] <Spion> :(
[20:45] <voox> *how
[20:45] <niggles> Hey guys, I have a question about csh scripts in terminal
[20:45] <Megiddo> >_>
[20:45] <jasunto> crap, had to move top panel and find hidden under, but oculd never grab without moving panel
[20:45] <Mahalo> Hey folks, on my way to completely linux...with one last issue. My Ubuntu Intrepid desktop. I added a HDD that formerly has M$ XP on it and I'm trying to get Ubuntu to see it and automount it so can use it for storage.
[20:45] <Megiddo> has anyone heard about AMD's dragon series processors
[20:45] <gd1> hi I need to install linux-headers-2.6.24-20 but it is no longer available anywhere
[20:46] <Mahalo> Any pointers to a site with steps?
[20:46] <n0s> can the permissions in the output of ls -l be shown in numerical format?
[20:46] <joaopinto> gd1, why should you need headers for a kernel that you don't have installed ?
[20:46] <gd1> joaopinto: because I have it installed
[20:46] <joaopinto> n0s, man ls
[20:46] <loopkick> hi guys
[20:46] <loopkick> i cant surfin now
[20:47] <joaopinto> gd1, sudo apt-get install  linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[20:47] <loopkick> i dont know why!
[20:47] <Spion> Mahalo, in my experience it should usually appear automatically. If it doesn't its possible that it has a NTFS partition which was not cleanly unmounted.
[20:47] <joaopinto> it is available unless you removed changed the main repository
[20:47] <voox> how can i replace the xfce4 volume manager with the one gnome uses?
[20:47] <superman> cansomebody help me i have update my hardy pc to ibex
[20:47] <superman> but now i have no internet connect
[20:47] <jasunto> anyone with a working broadcom on 8.10?
[20:47] <joaopinto> voox, try asking on #xubuntu
[20:47] <gd1> joaopinto: package ...yadayada.... has no candidates to install
[20:47] <voox> joaopinto, oh yah haha thanks
[20:47] <Mahalo> Spion, that is what happened...
[20:47] <Spion> Mahalo, when that happens I usually mount it from the command line using --force
[20:48] <superman> and i have a ralink rt2500 card
[20:48] <joaopinto> gd1, check that you have the standard repositories enabled
[20:48] <Spion> (I'm not sure if its completely safe, but so far it worked fine)
[20:48] <atom^x> Who__ -> u might try "cat /proc/bus/input/devices"
[20:48] <gd1> joaopinto: all of them. sources included
[20:48] <orci> hi, when i selesct print from file menu in some apps(not all) the app hangs. such as evince, acrobat reader but not gedit for example, any ideas what may be the problem?
[20:48] <Mahalo> hmm... sudo mount sda1 --force
[20:48] <gd1> no candidates to install whatever that means
[20:49] <Megiddo> TOO MANY PEOPLE!
[20:49] <Spion> Mahalo, I think it would be something like mount --force /dev/sdaX /media/EmptyDirectory
[20:49] <daves111> quit
[20:49] <daves111> exit
[20:49] <Spion> sudo mount ... :) sorry
[20:49] <Who__> atom^x: /devices/platform/i8042/serio4/input/input8 looks like it. Would that be the path to specify in xorg.conf?
[20:50] <daves111> <exit
[20:51] <RediXe> /dev/usb/lp0: permission denied when I try to echo "blah" >> /dev/usb/lp0 ... any way to fix this?
[20:51] <gd1> joaopinto: what can I do
[20:51] <Mahalo> Spion, I have no idea what is still on there...
[20:52] <Mahalo> I formatted using ext3
[20:52] <knoppix> list
[20:52] <joaopinto> gd1, can't help, i am not using hardy  :\
[20:52] <gd1> I use intrepid
[20:53] <gd1> Stick with old kernel cause new is not good for me
[20:53] <SOF4LNX> I am Darth Vader! :)
[20:53] <gd1> takes up to 1 hour to boot
[20:53] <joaopinto> RediXe, you are not expected to do that with a regular user
[20:53] <gd1> strange things happen...
[20:53] <Mahalo> I see /dev/sda1 =  ext3
[20:53] <Spion> Mahalo, you formatted the new disk? so its not NTFS anymore? hm
[20:53] <Mahalo> Old disk, was NTFS with boot part on it, for sure.
[20:54] <joaopinto> gd1, ah, you are using an unsupport configuration, the linux headers package for that version is available on the hardy repos, not on intrepid
[20:54] <Spion> erm, /dev/sda1 would probably be the old disk.
[20:54] <Mahalo> can I parted it to make it 100% clean?
[20:54] <gd1> joaopinto: I would like to use the new kernel but it just does not work
[20:54] <RediXe> joaopinto: Is there a way to make it work as a regular user?
[20:54] <gd1> joaopinto: it does not boot
[20:54] <gd1> joaopinto: stuck, frozen
[20:55] <Spion> Mahalo, well, you can use gparted to see in what state it is right now
[20:55] <joaopinto> RediXe, you could chmod a+rw the device, but that is not safe
[20:55] <gd1> joaopinto: I would like to file a bug but it's 99% useless. When a kernel is not good for your system, it will never be
[20:55] <bipolar> Is anyone here using an at&t "mercury" 3g usb dongle with hardy? if so I've built a package to update the sierra module to support it that I need some testing on :)
[20:55] <Mahalo> kk, it is working on it now. (gparted is)
[20:55] <joaopinto> gd1, well, if you file a bug during development it is likely to get some attention and fixed
[20:55] <Shishire> is the eth0 device a socket file?
[20:56] <gd1> joaopinto: I dunno if it's a bug
[20:56] <Spion> Be careful though... :)
[20:56] <joaopinto> gd1, kernels are not bad for any particular system, on your case it's a regression, since you had a working kernel, so you should have filed a bug
[20:56] <gd1> joaopinto: I see no errors, just freeze
[20:56] <joaopinto> gd1, if you can boot with hardy but not with intrepid, it's a bug
[20:56] <gd1> joaopinto: is there any log I can investigate and post to the dev's
[20:56] <gd1> joaopinto: otherwise just saying "er, it does not work" is useless for them
[20:57] <chupy> i need help i compile the  alsa driver and i dont have sound... my sound card isnt detect how can came back when i have sound, please help
[20:57] <Spion> Mahalo, btw, how many disks did gparted find?
[20:57] <joaopinto> gd1, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProcedures#Kernel
[20:57] <RediXe> joaopinto: Why is it not safe? It's just giving access to the printer no?
[20:57] <Mahalo> Spion, /dev/sda1 114.48 GiB + 7.84 MiB unallocated
[20:58] <gd1> joaopinto: well, digital photos are ok . I see
[20:58] <Mahalo> gparted sees 2.
[20:58] <joaopinto> RediXe, yes, which I am not sure it's safe, since you are giving access to the raw device
[20:58] <Spion> two  in the upper-right dropdown? or just two partitions in the list
[20:58] <Mahalo> My main one, /dev/sdb
[20:58] <Spion> oh, so /dev/sdb is the main.
[20:58] <Mahalo> + as  said...
[20:59] <Mahalo> yep
[20:59] <Mahalo> thanks
[20:59] <Mb81> again, what does Registered protocol family 17 stand for exactly ? probably to much to ask
[20:59] <gd1> THANK YOU
[20:59] <Mahalo> Wierd thing is I was able to copy my music to it earlier, but could not mount after reboot.
[20:59] <RiRa_DigiFly> how can is start Gconf. websites say i need that to disable flashing of new taskbar items. or better complete the running program buttons.
[21:00] <RiRa_DigiFly> i cant find it in the menu\
[21:00] <Mahalo> Glad I only copied and didn't cut or delete original files
[21:00] <Mahalo> fstab doesn't see it at all
[21:01] <Spion> hmm, you might need to add it there.
[21:01] <test_> hi@all
[21:02] <test_> is there a way to reset the system-wide sound configuration?
[21:02] <jtisme> test_  system->preferences->sound
[21:02] <chupy> i need help i compile the  alsa driver and i dont have sound... my sound card isnt detect how can came back when i have sound, please help
[21:03] <rootrot> how do i convert this ~/Desktop/Deus Ex GOTY\Deus\ Ex\ GOTY.mdf to an ISO file?
[21:03] <test_> rootrot, search for mdf2iso
[21:03] <Dr_willis> !mdf
[21:04] <Dr_willis> rootrot,  that wont let you get past any game-cd copy protection.
[21:04] <jtisme> chupy does it see your sound cards when you execute  aplay -l
[21:04] <test_> jtisme, no, which file do i have to delete to reset all sound configs?
[21:04] <chupy> no
[21:04] <rootrot> Dr_willis: Im aware of that
[21:05] <jtisme> test_ just go to  system->preferences->sound  to reset system wide sound values
[21:05] <Dr_willis> rootrot,  and the fuseiso (isofuse?) tool can mount that file withoug needing to convert it. (or last the docs say it can)
[21:05] <chupy> i have already do that but it says that i dont have sound cards
[21:05] <rootrot> Dr_willis: thank you,is that in the repos?
[21:06] <Dr_willis> !info fuseiso
[21:06] <jtisme> chupy when you execute  dpkg -l |grep -i alsa  what alsa pkgs come up
[21:06] <rober1> hello every body
[21:06] <jtisme> chupy dont list them here thou
[21:06] <rezao> does anyone know when one will be able to edit files over bluetooth?
[21:06] <rezao> like mount a bluetooth device and edit a text file on it and save
[21:07] <chupy> this http://paste.ubuntu.com/71498/
[21:07] <jtisme> chupy ok hold on
[21:07] <chupy> ok
[21:08] <VPS|KDE> I keep getting this error when i try to run certain apps in terminal:  (xchat:26310): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: :0
[21:08] <rootrot> Dr_willis: Do you know what arguments must be run with fuseiso to convert the file?
[21:08] <ravengears> Hello! I just installed a Audigy Sound Blaster 128 Sound Board in my machine but i can't hear any sound from it. I deactivated the mainboard soundboard but still I can hear anything. Please help!
[21:08] <Dr_willis>  VPS|KDE  you are  some how runnign it as a different user..
[21:08] <jtisme> chupy what hardware r u on
[21:08] <Dr_willis> rootrot,  it does NOT convert it.. it allows a user to mount the file to a directory
[21:08] <VPS|KDE> Dr_willis: no, i always run it as the same user
[21:09] <chupy> this 00:07.0 Audio device: nVidia Corporation MCP67 High Definition Audio (rev a1)
[21:09] <kuwanger> I've been having an odd problem.  For some reason, my firewall rules keep being replaced, seemingly at random, with rules that result in most traffic being dropped.
[21:09] <chupy> but before i compile it i had sound
[21:09] <Dr_willis> VPS|KDE,  then your DISPLAY variable or somting else is getting messed up.  It only  has the issue with specific apps?
[21:09] <c0p3rn1c> is there any1 who can help me get my saa7134 dvb going
[21:09] <c0p3rn1c> M
[21:09] <c0p3rn1c> ?*
[21:10] <jtisme> chupy why did you compile
[21:10] <VPS|KDE> Dr_willis: with GUI type apps yeah
[21:10] <chupy> all but it says me error 2
[21:10] <ravengears> Hello! I just installed a Audigy Sound Blaster 128 Sound Board in my machine but i can't hear any sound from it. I deactivated the mainboard soundboard but still I can hear anything. Please help!
[21:10] <jtisme> chupy what did you compile
[21:10] <VPS|KDE> something got update4d and it told me to restart the computer then that's when it started Dr_willis
[21:10] <chupy> i put sudo make uninstall but nothing
[21:10] <chupy> i reinstall alsa and pulse audio and nothing
[21:11] <Dr_willis> VPS|KDE,  with every gui app? check the value of your DISPLAY variable..  echo $DISPLAY ,
[21:11] <jtisme> chupy but why the recompile
[21:11] <Dr_willis>   
[21:11] <joaopinto> chupy, why did you recompile if you had sound working ?
[21:11] <chupy> i am a stupid only for see what happens :S
[21:11] <VPS|KDE> Dr_willis: :0
[21:11] <jtisme> chupy an interseting answer
[21:11] <_vistor> Im having a problem i cant seem to find any documentation online for. Ive recently installed 8.10 and alsamixer suddenly started using pulseaudio. So i changed back to "HDA Intel" in the gnome settings menu and restarted alsa with /sbin/alsa reload. this works but whenever i reboot it reverts back to pulseaudio. Does anyone know what i have to do to make it "stick" ? (alsactl store wont work)
[21:12] <VPS|KDE> that's what it shows
[21:12] <rootrot> Dr_willis:  neermind i figured it all out
[21:12] <ravengears> dr_wills can you help me with my problem please?
[21:12] <jtisme> chupy but we all do those sort of thing ;/
[21:12] <Dr_willis> VPS|KDE,  well thats correct then..  try making a new user and see if the same issue affects them perhaps.
[21:12] <chupy> also someone say me tahat if i do that i will make my microphone work
[21:12] <VPS|KDE> ok
[21:12] <Atax> Hi, anyone know a few benchmark-tools that I would find on most common linux-distributions (benchmarking for harddisk/filesystem, my RAM, the network)?
[21:12] <weatherkid> If anyone needs help just PM me.
[21:12] <lynx> Hello
[21:12] <jtisme> chupy ahh now the real problem
[21:13] <lynx> can any one help with my cam
[21:13] <lynx> ?
[21:13] <jtisme> chupy are u on a laptop or desktop
[21:13] <joaopinto> !anyone | lynx
[21:13] <ravengears> Hello! I just installed a Audigy Sound Blaster 128 Sound Board in my machine but i can't hear any sound from it. I deactivated the mainboard soundboard but still I can hear anything. Please help!
[21:13] <weatherkid> lynx PM me and I will help you
[21:13] <chupy> teh problem i want my sound back and i dont know how to do that
[21:13] <joaopinto> weatherkid, help should be provided on the channel so that other users can benefit from it, not on PM
[21:14] <jtisme> chupy r u on a laptop or desktop
[21:14] <chupy> laptop
[21:14] <jtisme> ok 3 stack
[21:14] <chupy> an hp dv6000 series = hpdv6951la
[21:14] <Baversjo> Hello! How can I define the bytes-per-inode when creating a partition in GParted?
[21:14] <joaopinto> Baversjo, that's a filesystem setting, not a partition setting
[21:15] <ravengears> Hello! I just installed a Audigy Sound Blaster 128 Sound Board in my machine but i can't hear any sound from it. I deactivated the mainboard soundboard but still I can hear anything. Please help!
[21:15] <Who__> Is there some crazy trick to making skype work properly?
[21:15] <weatherkid> joaopinto it is easier for me to work on Pm then main channel so i can see what people are saying
[21:15] <Who__> skype video, that is
[21:15] <jtisme> chupy at this point i would --force reinstall all the pulse audio pkgs you sent me in the pastebin and reboot after that and see what u have at that time
[21:15] <Who__> my webcam works in luvcview, but not in skype
[21:15] <joaopinto> weatherkid, they just need to prefix the text with your nick, if they are talking to you, it works fine
[21:15] <Baversjo> joaopinto: Ok, so it has nothing to do with Gparted?
[21:15] <ravengears> please help me
[21:16] <jtisme> chupy also we need to look at /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base but that can come later
[21:16] <mohaa> why is xorg.conf empty on ibex ?
[21:16] <joaopinto> Baversjo, I don't think gparted allows such an hard core tunning
[21:16] <chupy> ok  wait me...
[21:16] <joaopinto> mohaa, because most of the settings are not auto configured
[21:16] <_vistor> I need help with saving my settings in alsamixer. Ive changed to HDA intel but a reboot reverts to Pulseaudio. Does anyone know what i have to do to make the changes "stick" ? (no, alsactl store wont work)
[21:16] <ravengears> :(
[21:16] <jtisme> mohaa, empty or just a few lines
[21:16] <joaopinto> _vistor, no idea, but what's wrong with your pulseaudio ?
[21:17] <_vistor> joaopinto: pulseaudio gives me one "Master" channel
[21:17] <jamnz> I need HELP, please. I try to stop Xserver but cannot. I tried ctrl+alt+backspace, sudo init 1 & gdm stop. I even tried sudo killall xorg. nothing works. Any ideas? I need to install software.
[21:17] <chupy> is sudo aptitude --force reinstall?
[21:17] <_vistor> joaopinto: I want to be able to use the front, back etc..
[21:17] <Baversjo> Baversjo: Ok, but you can't change it after you have created the partition/filesystem as far as I can see. So I have deleted my ext3 partition now so I can create a new one, could you help me with that?
[21:17] <ty_> tyspage.doesntexist.com/6667 channel #help
[21:17] <ty_> can someone see if that works?
[21:17] <zloy> hi all
[21:17] <ty_> thats my irc
[21:17] <georgy_28> ! update-alternative
[21:17] <Baversjo> joaopinto: Ok, but you can't change it after you have created the partition/filesystem as far as I can see. So I have deleted my ext3 partition now so I can create a new one, could you help me with that?
[21:17] <Dr_willis>    
[21:18] <jtisme> chupy no  sudo apt-get --reinstall install pkg_name
[21:18] <ravengears> :(
[21:18] <joaopinto> Baversjo, you just need to use mkfs.ext3 /device
[21:18] <chupy> ok tahnks
[21:18] <joaopinto> where device is your partition device name
[21:18] <zloy> ext3 is not good fs
[21:18] <spree> ty_: change the / to a :
[21:18] <_vistor> Is noone else having this problem? Alsamixer shows pulseaudio and not your normal HDA Intel or whatever oyu use...
[21:18] <zloy> reiserfs is better
[21:18] <mohaa> jtisme   joaopinto  i was looking for the touchpad settings and all I see is a commented xorg
[21:18] <ty_> ooops
[21:19] <ty_> tyspage.doesntexist.com/6667 channel #help
[21:19] <ty_> type that into xchat
[21:19] <spree> zloy reiserfs is a real killer!
[21:19] <miik> when nvidia 177.82 in repo?
[21:19] <Baversjo> joaopinto: Ok, but it seams very complicated and I don't really know which arguments I should use :(
[21:19] <zloy> no
[21:19] <ty_> or you could just type tyspage.doesntexist.com
[21:19] <vassler> i need to know why its telling me why it cant find package compizconfig-settings-manager .. ccsm?
[21:19] <ty_> same thing
[21:19] <zloy> it
[21:19] <zloy> it's not right
[21:19] <georgy_28> ! update-alternatives
[21:19] <spree> zloy you do get that, don't you? the creator is a convicted murderer
[21:19] <jtisme> mohaa, X config is more automatic in 8.04 up but settings in xorg.conf are used if they are present in xorg.conf
[21:20] <ty_> someone tell me if it works
[21:20] <ty_> tyspage.doesntexist.com/6667 channel #help
[21:20] <zloy> ok, creator is killer, but fs is good
[21:20] <liquid> hello room
[21:20] <ty_> my irc
[21:20] <ty_> tyspage.doesntexist.com/6667 channel #help
[21:20] <ty_> tell me if that works
[21:20] <joaopinto> Baversjo, only one argument is required, the device name
[21:20] <spree> zloy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans_Reiser
[21:20] <liquid> Could somebody help me install the nvidia driver
[21:20] <zloy> spree: i know that
[21:20] <ty_> !botsnack
[21:20] <mohaa> jtisme: is there a tool to fecth that automatic configuration of X
[21:21] <joaopinto> Baversjo, man mkfs.ext3 if you want to know about other parameters
[21:21] <ty_> on ubuntu 8.10 there is
[21:21] <ty_> and 8.04
[21:21] <Baversjo> joaopinto: Ok, I'll try :) Thx
[21:21] <zloy> spree: but i talk about file system, not it creator
[21:21] <RiRa_DigiFly> howto remove the buttons from panelsbar. the make me crazy. i don need to see direct whats running and flashing. window selector is doing that. it with gnome
[21:21] <vassler> i need to know why its telling me why it cant find package compizconfig-settings-manager .. ccsm?
[21:21] <jtisme> mohaa i dont know the answer to that question perhaps some one else
[21:21] <_vistor> Still looking for an answer how to stop alsamixer to revert from  HDA Intel to Pulseaudio after a reboot. Anyone? :/
[21:21] <viat0r> what happened to asterisk  channel?
[21:22] <ty_> on ubuntu 8.10 there is a tool to automaticly config your graphics
[21:22] <viat0r> used to be tons ofppl there
[21:22] <ty_> and if your running 8.04 boot up into recovery mode and hit xfix
[21:22] <Savant> Whilst running irssi, with a newly installed font (monaco) -- when I switch between windows, residue from the previous window remains. Is there a fix for this? Is this even a common problem?
[21:22] <DasEi> Did somebody else had (little) errors with apt ~update/grade the last 2 days ? (yesterday keyerror, dissapeared today, now one hash mismatch )
[21:23] <ty_> no
[21:23] <viat0r> damn
[21:23] <ty_> irc.tyspage.doesntexist.com/6667 channel #help
[21:23] <Savant> Anyone?
[21:23] <ty_> someone tell me if that works for them!
[21:24] <SpriteSODA> hi guys, i need some tips
[21:24] <ty_> ok
[21:24] <ty_> on what?
[21:24] <SpriteSODA> Wireless internet connection
[21:24] <jtisme> !ask
[21:24] <ty_> ok
[21:24] <Savant> ...
[21:24] <NekroJakub> Okay, now I really have a problem.
[21:24] <LoveGuru> Hi, im trying to uncompress a tar.gz file in to my home dir but it gave me error in return " tar -zxvf /media/cdrom0/package.tar.gz /home/user/packanme " it gave me error saying " tar: /home/user/Packagename: NOt Found in archive
[21:24] <SpriteSODA> after some struggles i managed to config my USB adapter to log in
[21:24] <SpriteSODA> and its working
[21:24] <SpriteSODA> but
[21:24] <ty_> login to router?
[21:24] <SpriteSODA> after about 5 mins
[21:25] <SpriteSODA> the connection is lost
[21:25] <ty_> hmmm
[21:25] <NekroJakub> Ubuntu seems to hang when I boot it up, while loading the login screen. It's stuck at the moment when you can see an orange background and your cursor in the working animation.
[21:25] <SpriteSODA> and then it wont log in
[21:25] <ty_> what usb adapter?
[21:25] <SpriteSODA> in my windows it doesnt happen
[21:25] <czarnista> hello, how to catch wireless on/off event?
[21:25] <zloy> spree: where are you?
[21:25] <SpriteSODA> so its not the adapter
[21:25] <ty_> and what system
[21:25] <SpriteSODA> hmm
[21:25] <SpriteSODA> DRUC U3
[21:25] <jamnz> how to kill Xserver in Ubuntu ?
[21:25] <SpriteSODA> system?
[21:25] <SpriteSODA> intel E7200
[21:25] <lenswipe> does anyone know how to make ubunt play tunes with the sytem beep?
[21:25] <FloodBot1> SpriteSODA: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:25] <SpriteSODA> ubuntu 8.10
[21:25] <ty_> 8.40,8.10
[21:25] <ty_> hmm
[21:25] <lenswipe> you can do it on smoothwall but i cant find out how to do it on ubuntu
[21:26] <ty_> mine works great with 8.10
[21:26] <DasEi> jamnz: running gnome ?
[21:26] <lenswipe> anyone have any ideas?
[21:26] <jtisme> jamnz,  cntl        +alt + backspace
[21:26] <SpriteSODA> u got DRUC U3?
[21:26] <viat0r> !ot
[21:26] <SpriteSODA> i got it installed with Windows Drivers Installer
[21:26] <ty_> no
[21:26] <SpriteSODA> ndisgtk
[21:26] <ty_> what wireless adapter?
[21:26] <jamnz> jtisme, I tried ctrl+alt+backspace, sudo init 1, and so on. i need to get GDM Stop to work.
[21:26] <jamnz> however, I cannot kill xserv
[21:27] <DasEi> jamnz: /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[21:27] <jtisme> jamnz, sudo killall gdm
[21:27] <DasEi> *sudo
[21:27] <kuwanger> Hmm..looking into it, I think this might have all been the work of the avahi-daemon. :/
[21:27] <jamnz> DasEi that didnt work either :-(
[21:27] <ty_> jamnz: accesories,terminal then type shutdown 0
[21:27] <DasEi> jamnz:sudo  /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[21:27] <SpriteSODA> hmmm
[21:27] <chupy> jtisme: i have reinstall now what?
[21:27] <ty_> or cntrl alt f1
[21:27] <jtisme> chupy do u hav sound
[21:27] <SpriteSODA> Wistron NeWeb DRUC-U3
[21:28] <chupy> no
[21:28] <mercutio22> mbm are you on?
[21:28] <ty_> I have no clue why its not working
[21:28] <jamnz> brb
[21:28] <jamnz> trying
[21:28] <ty_> ok
[21:28] <chupy> i reboot?
[21:29] <jtisme> chupy, did you reboot
[21:29] <chupy> no do i have to do it?
[21:29] <ty_> yes!
[21:29] <chupy> ok XD
[21:29] <pantsman> oh my goodness
[21:29] <jtisme> chupy, yes i would and lets see what happens
[21:30] <ty_> irc.tyspage.doesntexist.com/6667 channel #help
[21:30] <ty_> help me
[21:30] <ty_> does it work?
[21:30] <ty_> irc.tyspage.doesntexist.com/6667 channel #help
[21:30] <FloodBot1> ty_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:30] <_vistor> last try. :) I changed alsamixer to use HDA Intel with all the volumebars but it reverts to pulseaudio after a reboot. Does anyone know what conf-file i need to edit to stop it from reverting?
[21:30] <c0p3rn1c> my lexmark 3500-4500 is not supported, isnt there ANY way around this except buying a new one?
[21:30] <liquid> How can I exit the xserver to install the nvidia driver?
[21:30] <ljuwaidah> How can i get my bluetooth wireless earphones to work?
[21:31] <RiRa_DigiFly> :( back to 8.04 + kde 3.5.
[21:31] <ljuwaidah> liquid: ctrl + alt + bkspc
[21:31] <joaopinto> liquid, CTRL ALT F1, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[21:31] <liquid> joaopinto, Thank you sir
[21:32] <ljuwaidah> i heard blueman helps but i can't install it in intrepit because it needs libbluetooth2 and that's deprecated now
[21:32] <ljuwaidah> *can
[21:32] <ty_> Someone tell me if irc.tyspage.doesntexist.com channel #help
[21:32] <ty_> tell me if it works!
[21:32] <isildur> hi
[21:32] <ty_> !ubottu
[21:32] <ty_> !g ubuntu
[21:32] <liquid> joaopinto, How do I  start it again sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start?
[21:32] <ty_> !G
[21:32] <_vistor> ljuwaidah: you can "force install" libbluetooth2 manually though..
[21:32] <chupy> i have reboot and.. i still having no sound
[21:32] <joaopinto> liquid, yes, but if you are installing a new driver you need to reboot for it to be loaded
[21:33] <ljuwaidah> _vistor: i was hoping i can find such an option :)
[21:33] <liquid> joaopinto, Thank you, whats the reboot command?
[21:33] <loquitus_of_borg> Anybody can tell me of a way to record what is going on, on my desktop, INCLUDING audio? all the programs I am trying are unable to get at the sound because the app that is being recorded has locked the sound card!
[21:34] <joaopinto> liquid, reboot :)
[21:34] <marko__> loquitus_of_borg, kill the app that locked the sound card
[21:34] <ljuwaidah> loquitus_of_borg: cat /dev/audio > sound.raw
[21:34] <chupy> jtisme: i have no sound yet
[21:34] <c0p3rn1c> joaopinto: to reboot the xserver ctrl-alt-backspace
[21:35] <ljuwaidah> that's pretty hackish and low quality
[21:35] <lynx_> is weatherland there
[21:35] <joaopinto> c0p3rn1c, the idea is not to "reboot" the x server, is to reboot the system :)
[21:35] <lynx_> ?
[21:35] <jtisme> chupy,  aplay -l
[21:35] <c0p3rn1c> joaopinto: aha :)
[21:35] <liquid> joaopinto, Thanks again here it goes
[21:35] <chupy> no sound cars were found
[21:35] <c0p3rn1c> is there any1 who can help me get my saa7134 dvb going ?
[21:36] <jtisme> chupy, lspci any audio card
[21:36] <loquitus_of_borg> marko_: what I mean is... I am running a program that takes in input from the mike. I am trying to record the whole session. but the program that I am running seems to make the sound card unavailable to any other app to record with
[21:36] <lynx_> please help with cam? PM please
[21:36] <jtisme> !please
[21:36] <joaopinto> lynx, the help is provided on the channel, not on PM, please describe your problem
[21:36] <chupy> 00:07.0 Audio device: nVidia Corporation MCP67 High Definition Audio (rev a1)
[21:36] <c0p3rn1c> !webcam
[21:37] <marko__> loquitus_of_borg, aha... then i don't know the solution
[21:37] <_vistor> ljuwaidah: I ran into it earlier today, ppl using XBMC were having problems too because of that lib for some reason. you can find the file at launchpad.net just install as a normal packet with aptitude ? :)
[21:37] <lynx_> I tried your site no progress
[21:37] <fubu> n.net
[21:37] <lynx_> yes web cam
[21:37] <d0nets> i keep getting this
[21:37] <d0nets> E: Couldn't configure pre-depend libc6 for findutils, probably a dependency cycle.
[21:37] <jtisme> chupy, is there a line in  /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base similar to  snd-hda-nvi... model=3stack
[21:37] <d0nets> when i try to install things via apt-get
[21:38] <loquitus_of_borg> Isn't there some way to instruct the system to send all sound output to a second device as well
[21:38] <Baversjo> I have a problem with Ext2 IFS For Windows. The problem is that the ext3 filesystem doesn't meet a requirements for the windows program. The utility mountdiag says the following: "The volume has an Ext2/Ext3 file system, but the Ext2 IFS 1.11 software did not
[21:38] <Baversjo> mount it because the file system has an inode size unequal to 128 bytes (inode
[21:38] <Baversjo> size: 256 bytes). The only way to solve it is to back up the volume's files and format the file
[21:38] <Baversjo> system: give the mkfs.ext3 utility the -I 128 switch. Finally, restore all
[21:38] <Baversjo> backed-up files." I've tried the following: "mkfs.ext3 -m 0 /dev/sda6 -i 128" But the program says that the inode ratio needs to be at least 1024.
[21:38] <FloodBot1> Baversjo: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:38] <ljuwaidah> _vistor: I can find what exactly on launchpad?
[21:38] <_vistor> ljuwaidah: libbluetooth2.deb , well there are many other places, this is just one :) Or i might have misunderstood you?
[21:39] <lynx_> I have a vgn - sz640 vaio and my webcam does't work I tried almost everythimg it works with ekiga only
[21:39] <lynx_> any solutions
[21:39] <chupy> jtisme: no
[21:39] <lynx_> ?
[21:39] <joaopinto> Baversjo, the ext2/ext3 windows driver is buggy, why don't you just use ntfs/fat32 to interchange data ?
[21:40] <ljuwaidah> _vistor: i thought you were talking abut blueman, thanks, i'll try to download it :)
[21:40] <joaopinto> lynx, if it does not work with a specific application, then you need to contact the application author, since it's properly configured and works at the OS level
[21:40] <_vistor> ljuwaidah: oh, good luck
[21:40] <Baversjo> joaopinto: Okeeey :P
[21:41] <lynx_> thank joaopintp
[21:41] <c0p3rn1c> if a modprobe loads a driver that doesnt apply to your hardware dmesg doesnt say anything?
[21:41] <walmis> ljuwaidah: you can get the backported blueman for intrepid from http://launchpad.net/~blueman/+ppa
[21:41] <chupy> nothing like that only some snd
[21:41] <Baversjo> joaopinto: How good is the NTFS support in Ubuntu now? I've heard it's been in experimental stage for many years now.
[21:41] <_vistor> lynx_: give an exemple of a program is it NOT working in pls
[21:41] <jtisme> chupy, you probably need a line similare to  snd-hda-nvidia model=MC67...    MC67 is the model number of you sound card
[21:41] <c0p3rn1c> Baversjo: NTFS works pretty well
[21:41] <Tetracomm> Hello.
[21:41] <walmis> ljuwaidah: sorry, it's https://edge.launchpad.net/~blueman/+archive
[21:41] <Macros42> hey guys - I'm on Feisty atm and I need to upgrade to a higher version to install Wrath of a Lich King - if I edit the sources file to change all refs Feisty to Hardy will that go ok?
[21:42] <lynx_> cheese
[21:42] <dxlr8r> I try to install gcc-4.1 in Ubuntu 8.10... and it tells me everything went alright. but I can not see the gcc-4.1 binary anywhere... I have tried using "find / -name "gcc" | grep 4.1" to
[21:42] <Tetracomm> Where can I get a desktop widget that tells me how much system resources are in use?
[21:42] <ljuwaidah> walmis: that sounds better than downloading libbluetooth2
[21:42] <Macros42> my main concern is my RAID1 setup
[21:42] <r1n90> Anybody know how to switch off the main speakers when plugging in the headphone ?
[21:42] <jtisme> chupy, search google for  snd-hda-nvidia  hp  and see what it tell you
[21:42] <Baversjo> c0p3rn1c: Gr8
[21:42] <_vistor> Baversjo: i use a 100 gig ntfs parition as medialibrary and ive never had any problems with it. automounting via fstab and it works like a charm
[21:42] <joaopinto> dxlr8r, what package have you installed ?
[21:42] <chupy> ok let me search
[21:43] <_vistor> ljuwaidah: agree, i didnt know that one existed. my appologies
[21:43] <dxlr8r> joaopinto: gcc-4.1 and cpp-4.1
[21:43] <Baversjo> _vistor: :D
[21:43] <ozzloy> what package gives me md5 on ubuntu?
[21:43] <joaopinto> Baversjo, the current ntfs support is not the one that has been experimental for many years, it was reimplemented a few years ago
[21:43] <c0p3rn1c> no dvb guru's in here?
[21:43] <ozzloy> like say i want to find somethings md5sum
[21:43] <lynx_> _vistor cheese pigicam etc
[21:43] <joaopinto> dxlr8r, dpkg -L gcc-4.1
[21:43] <ozzloy> never mind
[21:43] <jtisme> chupy, another thing since you did have audio at one time
[21:43] <guntbert> ozzloy: md5sum :) at the command line
[21:44] <joaopinto> ozzloy, md5sum is a default utility on ubuntu
[21:44] <chupy> nothing that affects audio
[21:44] <jtisme> chupy, you may need to force remove alsa and pulse audio pkgs and reinstall both
[21:44] <mercutio22> I lost my partition table. Anyone here has experience with testdisk?
[21:44] <ljuwaidah> walmis: errr... do i need to add the repo to download it?
[21:44] <Baversjo> joaopinto: Nice, I'll try that :P I'm a DJ so I don't want all my music to disappear xD
[21:44] <jtisme> chupy, i need to go outside for about 10
[21:44] <walmis> ljuwaidah: yes
[21:44] <Macros42> anybody?
[21:44] <stodan> is it possible to boot ubuntu from usb hdd, when bios does not allow booting from usb hdd?
[21:44] <mercutio22> Testdisk displays my partition table correctly
[21:44] <dxlr8r> only the docs get installed joaopinto
[21:44] <joaopinto> Baversjo, anyway, data that matters always has backups :)
[21:44] <Anon> Can anyone help get my Ubuntu 8.10 to use my wireless adapter ?
[21:44] <mercutio22> I wonder how to write to the disk
[21:44] <chupy> ok i will do it
[21:45] <Macros42> Anon: what adapter is it? I had probs with teh BCM one
[21:45] <liquid> joaopinto, It kinda worked when I went to install it is said it Unable to build the NVIDIA kernel module
[21:45] <_vistor> Baversjo: seems we have that incommon too :) If i can you can
[21:45] <Baversjo> joaopinto: Guess I'll have to buy another drive
[21:45] <stodan> i tried moving boot to local hdd, but still grub was complaining about missing partitions
[21:45] <CoCoon> hi all, any experience with dvb-t devices? (usb)
[21:45] <joaopinto> liquid, did you install "build-essential" and the linux headers ?
[21:45] <Anon> macros42 SNU6500 USB adapter 11g philips
[21:45] <_vistor> Anon: do you know what card/chip it is? (im asuming it didnt autodetect it and works out of the box...)
[21:45] <mhd720> linux headers?
[21:45] <dxlr8r> joaopinto: 4.2 does not work either. only installs document to /usr/share/doc/
[21:46] <Macros42> hmm mine was an onboard one - tail /var/syslog and see if it mentions the card
[21:46] <liquid> joaopinto, Im sure I have the build essentials where do I find the linux headers
[21:46] <Baversjo> A new question. How can I create a NTFS file system in Ubuntu? Or should I do it in Vista?
[21:46] <c0p3rn1c> if a modprobe loads a driver that doesnt apply to your hardware dmesg doesnt say anything?
[21:46] <joaopinto> dxlr8r, the binaries are provided by gcc-4.1-base which is a dependency to gcc-4.1
[21:46] <Baversjo> You could do it on the live-cd
[21:46] <Macros42> Anon: /var/log/syslog I mean
[21:46] <oskar-> c0p3rn1c: that depends on the driver, i think
[21:46] <Anon> _Vistor: Not a clue, I think i just need the driver and wondered if anyone knew where to get hold of it
[21:46] <dxlr8r> joaopinto: my wrong. I meant the -base packages
[21:46] <joaopinto> dxlr8r, ops, wait it's not
[21:46] <dxlr8r> no binaries there
[21:47] <joaopinto> dxlr8r, sorry I am wrong
[21:47] <|Chrizz|> Hmm
[21:47] <|Chrizz|> How can i hook up a second monitor to my pc in ubuntu?
[21:47] <Macros42> anyone any idea about upgrading directly from Feisty to Hardy?
[21:47] <dxlr8r> joaopinto: so now what? most I try to compile it?
[21:47] <Macros42> or do I have to go through Gutsy first?
[21:47] <bazhang> Macros42, you cant
[21:47] <c0p3rn1c> CoCoon: maybe this will help: http://www.clivecooper.co.uk/dvb/index.html
[21:47] <bazhang> Macros42, need to go via gutsy
[21:47] <joaopinto> dxlr8r, maybe better asking on #ubuntu-devel
[21:47] <dxlr8r> ok
[21:47] <Baversjo> _vistor: Did you create your partition in Vista/XP or Ubuntu?
[21:47] <c0p3rn1c> oskar-: ok thx
[21:47] <GaMbi_DK> so NO ONE knows how to get from a game to my dekstop? (alt+tab in windows)
[21:48] <LBdDiane> hello
[21:48] <dxlr8r> thank you joaopinto :)
[21:48] <joaopinto> dxlr8r, erm, there is /usr/bin/gcc-4.1
[21:48] <LBdDiane> should my notebook HP dv6000 work with ubuntu ??
[21:48] <dxlr8r> no joaopinto... not here
[21:48] <Macros42> dammit I'm not looking forward to this ...
[21:48] <|Chrizz|> LBdDiane: Yes
[21:48] <liquid> joaopinto, Which linux headers
[21:48] <joaopinto> dxlr8r, gcc4.1 --version
[21:49] <LBdDiane> last time i tested... my notebook wasnt working goof |Chrizz|
[21:49] <joaopinto> liquid, sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[21:49] <dxlr8r> aptitude install gcc-4.1-base , only installes to /usr/share/docs here joaopinto... I have no gcc-4.1 binary
[21:49] <|Chrizz|> LBdDiane: My friend has thesame laptop, and it works perfectly fine
[21:49] <joaopinto> dxlr8r,
[21:49] <joaopinto> dpkg -S /usr/bin/gcc-4.1
[21:49] <joaopinto> gcc-4.1: /usr/bin/gcc-4.1
[21:49] <LBdDiane> ok
[21:49] <deagle> hello all
[21:49] <LBdDiane> maybe my setup wasnt good
[21:49] <liquid> joaopinto, linux-headers-2.6.27-7-generic is already the newest version.
[21:49] <liquid> linux-headers-2.6.27-7-generic set to manually installed.
[21:49] <dxlr8r> joaopinto: dpkg: /usr/bin/gcc-4.1 not found.
[21:50] <Masticore> How do I fix 100% width in conky? gap_x 0 fixed the gap on the left side, but not the other side. Any ideas?
[21:50] <Kingsy101> I am trying to search a few files in a folder to see which file contains a certain text.. how is this done with the GUI window?
[21:50] <ed0n0n> hi, I have a trouble with sound driver, it works fine, but after not using it for a lomg time, like half an hour or so, it is disabled somehow, and I can't use it anymore, can I restart it somehow?
[21:50] <mercutio22> can someone help me out here? I lost my partition table or so it seems
[21:50] <GaMbi_DK> maybe someone can just tell me if there is such a thing? I dont know If ppl dont see my question or if they simply just dont know :) is there an alternative to "Alt+tab" in ubuntu?
[21:50] <gromeo> apt-get update fails on me with no space left on device, but I have 103 G left
[21:50] <Macros42> alt-tab works in ubuntu
[21:50] <joaopinto> dxlr8r, dpkg -L gcc-4.1, I go the the binaries listed there
[21:50] <gromeo> so it saiys "failed, run dpkg --configure -a" - I do it - dies with "no space left on device" on compiling th ekernel
[21:50] <mercutio22> GaMbi_DK: you can set any key combo in compiz
[21:50] <GaMbi_DK> Macros42, yea.. but not in games
[21:50] <joaopinto> dxlr8r, package version 4.1.2-23ubuntu3
[21:51] <dxlr8r> joaopinto: I do not... clean install, not installed a single package more
[21:51] <Phusion> hey there folks, I'm running 8.10 and after a java plugin install I seem to of lost the interface to firefox, reinstalling doesn't seem to help
[21:51] <Masterkiller> hey when i download something using apt-get does it keep the downloaded files aorund? where would they be?
[21:51] <deagle> does anyone know how to stretch the desktop out a few more pixels without specifying a new resolution?
[21:51] <GaMbi_DK> mercutio22, that will allow me to minimize a game?
[21:51] <gromeo> how come it be "no space left" it has plenty of space ...
[21:51] <deagle> Masterkiller: yep, /opt if i'm not mistaken
[21:51] <dxlr8r> yeah joaopinto... same here
[21:51] <guntbert> dxlr8r: what gives 'which gcc'?
[21:51] <joaopinto> dxlr8r, sudo apt-get install --reinstall gcc-4.1
[21:51] <digitalice> Hello
[21:51] <deagle> Masterkiller: my bad, /var?
[21:51] <Masterkiller> DEAgle, Empty hmmm
[21:52] <digitalice> got a prb here ...
[21:52] <mercutio22> GaMbi_DK: I guess that depends on the game
[21:52] <digitalice> when i try to install ubuntu
[21:52] <digitalice> the installer hangs
[21:52] <deagle> Masterkiller: /var/cache/apt
[21:52] <Phusion> deagle: your monitor's settings on the front of it
[21:52] <Masterkiller> deagle, ok found em thanks :)
[21:52] <deagle> there :P
[21:52] <dxlr8r> that worked joaopinto... thank you :) I have it now :)
[21:52] <GaMbi_DK> mercutio22, ok.. thx
[21:52] <joaopinto> dxlr8r, great :)
[21:52] <deagle> Phusion: my monitor won't let me :(
[21:52] <Phusion> deagle: then no.
[21:52] <lee_1> how would I load an md5sum of a file into a variable in bash?
[21:52] <ed0n0n> does anyone know how to restart audio driver? should be something liek sudo /etc/init.d/sound restart Can you help please?
[21:52] <gromeo> anyone?
[21:52] <pulse00> hi all. anyone knows which ubuntu package contains libtoolize ?
[21:52] <deagle> but, but, but...
[21:53] <deagle> 8.04 was just fine
[21:53] <liquid> joaopinto, What are the linux headers
[21:53] <joaopinto> lee_1, md5=$(md5sum $file)
[21:53] <dxlr8r> joaopinto: now to compile old version of wine to get fonts to work in Warhammer DoW :P
[21:53] <Phusion> ed0n0n: need to restart the alsa server
[21:53] <pavlaner> GoogleEarthLinux.bin how i install this?
[21:53] <oskar-> mercutio22: try "testdisk", http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk
[21:53] <digitalice> hey
[21:53] <joaopinto> liquid, you have those installed already, they are required to build kernel modules
[21:53] <gromeo> apt-get update fails on me with no space left on device, but I have 103 G left
[21:53] <deagle> :( now i got a half inch black border on each side
[21:53] <GaMbi_DK> anyone knows how to minimize a game? (frozen-bubble, Teeworlds, nexuiz, quake3, UT2k4 etc etc)
[21:53] <digitalice> need some hel over here!
[21:53] <gromeo>  so it saiys "failed, run dpkg --configure -a" - I do it - dies with "no space left on device" on compiling
[21:53] <digitalice> :(
[21:53] <joaopinto> lol dxlr8r
[21:53] <ed0n0n> Phusion: How do I do that?
[21:53] <lee_1> joaopinto: but that leaves the " - filename" stuff there
[21:53] <bazhang> digitalice, did you md5 the iso
[21:53] <digitalice> yes
[21:53] <guntbert> !enter | gromeo
[21:53] <jtisme> chupy, where r u at now
[21:53] <joaopinto> gromeo, your disk is full
[21:53] <liquid> joaopinto, I just did an apt-get an installed them
[21:53] <bazhang> digitalice, also burn at very low speed and do the disk integrity check
[21:53] <gromeo> no it is not
[21:53] <digitalice> the CD is not corrupt
[21:53] <joaopinto> liquid, so it's fine, your problem is not missing headers
[21:54] <gromeo> df -h shows 103 g left
[21:54] <bazhang> digitalice, md5 is nothing about the cd
[21:54] <digitalice> nah, the CD is fine
[21:54] <joaopinto> lee_1, then you need to use either cut or awk, to get only a part
[21:54] <digitalice> no?
[21:54] <Phusion> ed0n0n: go to Administration -> services and find Alsa, uncheck and re-check
[21:54] <bazhang> nope
[21:54] <joaopinto> lee_1, better ask on #bash or a scripting channel
[21:54] <Masterkiller> if i'm planning on using an initrd with my kernel, do i still need to modules_install?
[21:54] <liquid> joaopinto, Hummmm Thats weird what does it mean nvidia kernel modual
[21:54] <bazhang> !md5 | digitalice
[21:54] <digitalice> but i guess the CD is fine
[21:54] <lee_1> ok, but the people in #bash are scary :(
[21:54] <ed0n0n> Phusion: thank you
[21:54] <liquid> *module
[21:54] <joaopinto> lee_1, :P
[21:54] <guntbert> gromeo: pastebin the output of df -h please
[21:54] <bazhang> digitalice, dont guess; verify
[21:54] <digitalice> im running live session now
[21:55] <digitalice> ok
[21:55] <pavlaner> kanenas ellinas?
[21:55] <digitalice> im downloading stuff to verify the hash
[21:56] <digitalice> i think the CD its fine ...
[21:56] <n0s> why do you think
[21:56] <aguitel> are openoffice 3.0 opening pdf files?
[21:56] <digitalice> the instalation hangs while creating USER
[21:56] <gromeo> http://pastebin.com/m39291121
[21:56] <gromeo> it dies on updating the kernel...
[21:56] <gromeo> 40 M left isn't enough on /boot?
[21:56] <bazhang> digitalice, how much ram and did you try any boot params to the kernel
[21:57] <digitalice> i got 1 gb ram
[21:57] <digitalice> and i did not used any parameter
[21:58] <StrikeTeam> hey guys anyone know how to fix the issue with EVOLUTION MAIL, that when u have a HTML signature setup, the next time you open evo mail and type a new message, the signature is all in HTML code???
[21:58] <_vistor> Still looking for an answer how to stop alsamixer to revert from  HDA Intel to Pulseaudio after a reboot. Anyone? :/
[21:59] <guntbert> gromeo: should be enough
[21:59] <AzizLight> hi everybody
[21:59] <nibblecat> hi.  if I install a new software from source, say, gstreamer... how do I tell the operating system to check the source headers instead of the headers that were there from the OS installation?
[21:59] <gromeo> guntbert how do I check why it does that
[21:59] <AzizLight> I typed y relevant when setting a value
[21:59] <Riz1> want to enable "big desktop". any help?
[21:59] <gromeo> seems reeealy strange to me
[21:59] <deagle> _visitor: HDA Intel: is it an integrated audio device?
[21:59] <Riz1> got an ati redeon card with one vga and one dvi output
[21:59] <mercutio22> need help recovering my partition table. Can anyone give me a hand?
[21:59] <Enissay> i've downloaded a documentary, after extraction, i can hear nothing -in vlc and mplayer- , when i open it with avidemux, it says that he can't initialize audio device!!! please help....
[22:00] <oskar-> mercutio22: try "testdisk", http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk
[22:00] <jtisme> _vistor, do you have  snd-hda-intel model=...  in your /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base file
[22:00] <loquitus_of_borg> anybody know of any way to make it so that I can have two programs that can both see the input from the mike?
[22:00] <oskar-> mercutio22:  or didn't it do the job?
[22:00] <alesan> hi my mother is lamenting the fact her PC does not shutdown anymore
[22:00] <alesan> how can I fix that?
[22:00] <deagle> alesan: tell her to push the power button? :P
[22:00] <mercutio22> oskar-: yeah, it seems to get my partitions right. Can you guide me?
[22:00] <guntbert> gromeo: I'm not sure, try if there is anything in the log-files, maybe?
[22:01] <jtisme> deagle touche!
[22:01] <mercutio22> oskar: let me brief you
[22:01] <digitalice> hey?
[22:01] <digitalice> mmm
[22:01] <oskar-> mercutio22: i am sorry. i only know of "testdisk" because of "photorec". but i never used it
[22:01] <gromeo> guntbert: where :)
[22:01] <CoCoon> I keep getting the this error in dmesg: dvb-usb: error while querying for an remote control event
[22:01] <digitalice> hey
[22:01] <digitalice> i cannot install ubuntu over here
[22:02] <digitalice> error while creating user
[22:02] <mercutio22> oskar, ok, thanks man
[22:02] <digitalice> dunno why :D
[22:02] <n0s> and we gave you a suggestion
[22:02] <_vistor> jtisme: I do and it works if i change the settings in the sound meny (gnome) and reload alsa with /sbin/alsa reload. its just that whenever i reboot it reverts to pulseaudio
[22:02] <ed0n0n> Phusion: It does not work, I also tried restating alsa-utils by console and says [OK] for stop and restart. Sound doesn't play anyway :( Don't know what to do
[22:02] <alesan> deagle, you do not understand; the shutdown procedure begins, but it will hang. The "bar" will not get completely black it will stop in the middle
[22:02] <guntbert> gromeo: virtually all log-files are in /var/log
[22:02] <gromeo> yes there is a folder named apt
[22:02] <gromeo> term.log is empty
[22:03] <alesan> deagle, I do not see how pressing the ACPI button would help. at that point she can just cut the power like she does anyway after shutdown
[22:03] <deagle> alesan: i know all about it, i got the same thing. I've tried all i know and haven't gotten anywhere =\
[22:03] <guntbert> gromeo: and I have dpkg.log there
[22:03] <alesan> deagle, did you install the thing new or update from the previous one?
[22:04] <_vistor> jtisme: sounds to me like i need to edit a config-file somewhere but i a bit cautius about doing that if im not sure which one
[22:04] <deagle> alesan: installed 8.1 new thanks to a busted hdd
[22:04] <Hayloe> hey, I'm new to linux. like just deleted XP this morning and Im having some troubles installing drivers for my GeForce 8600GT on Ubuntu.. any help?
[22:04] <jtisme> _vistor, there r still some conflicts with pulseaudio and alsa it is all over the net have you googled any of this
[22:04] <ljuwaidah> gtg, later, thank you guys
[22:04] <alesan> deagle, 8.1?
[22:04] <digitalice> hey
[22:04] <deagle> 8.10
[22:04] <digitalice> can someone help :S
[22:04] <alesan> oh I see
[22:04] <deagle> zeros to the right are useless :P
[22:04] <digitalice> over private?
[22:04] <deagle> (after a decimal)
[22:04] <n0s> digitalalice: what did the md5 say
[22:04] <jtisme> _vistor, u r probably right but i cant tell you which one
[22:05] <nomike> re
[22:05] <alesan> deagle, no, it represents the month
[22:05] <colton> Is it possible to embed php into an xhtml file?
[22:05] <_vistor> jtisme: I have for quite a while im afraid and ive realized that im not the only one having problems with the pulseaudio. It just seemed to me I had manually "solved" the bug but all i need is to make it boot with the changed settings
[22:05] <deagle> alesan: oooooh, so that's how that works :P
[22:05] <alesan> ubuntu has a year.month release thing
[22:05] <guntbert> gromeo: do you have /var/log/dpkg.log?
[22:05] <greencookie> woot irssi via connectbot on my g1
[22:05] <_vistor> jtisme: no worries, thanks for takin time.
[22:05] <gromeo> yes
[22:05] <ed0n0n> colton: ask either in #xhtml or #php that is not an issue for this channel
[22:05] <gromeo> let me show you one mor epastebin just a sec
[22:06] <nomike> wollte euch nur bescheid geben, daß die anleitung die ich vorher erwähnt habe (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=902860#6) wunderbar funktioniert...
[22:06] <deagle> jtisme: whatcha'll trying to configure?
[22:06] <Hayloe> could anybody help me in installing drivers for my 8600GT ?
[22:06] <greencookie> .pa
[22:06] <sliwowitz> I have a problem - an update to 8.10 left my system unbootable. It started with a load of errors during installation nad now manifest itself as /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.8' not found (required by /lib/libselinux.so.1)
[22:06] <nomike> könnt also wenn nochmal jemand dannach fragt auf die aktuelle zeit im chanlog verweisen.....
[22:06] <jtisme> _vistor, for the short term workaround put the  /sbin/alsa reload  in /etc/rc.local file and it will exec each time you boot
[22:06] <AzizLight> I typed gconftool-2 --set /desktop/gnome/interface/gtk_key_theme Emacs --type string in a terminal to get emacs keybindings in firefox's text fields but it turned out to suck. now if I put --unset instead of set it gives me this message: Value type is only relevant when setting a value. How can I get the normal key bindings back please?
[22:06] <Phusion> ed0n0n: not really sure from here man, have you ever had sound working on that hardware?
[22:06] <deagle> Hayloe: is it on the list of now unsupported "legacy" cards?
[22:06] <nomike> Danke nochmal...und gute nacht....
[22:06] <ed0n0n> Phusion: all day long
[22:07] <sliwowitz> Upon furhter investigation, I found that the updater didn't install the initrd image
[22:07] <gromeo> http://pastebin.com/m9a792d1
[22:07] <Phusion> ed0n0n: it just suddonly stopped working?
[22:07] <_vistor> jtisme: haha, ill do that for now, hopefully it does it before any other process starts using it.
[22:07] <nomike> cu
[22:07] <Hayloe> deagle, where would I see that list?
[22:07] <stoneDJay> hi... after 8.10 upgrade, my acpi doesnt work right anymore... crap
[22:07] <stoneDJay> how can i fix it?
[22:07] <sliwowitz> and therefore didn't even update my grub config etc. So to start some intelligent debugging:
[22:08] <Phusion> I also have a question, has anyone ever seen firefox completely lose its interface? when I run it in Ubuntu I see just the File Edit View etc dropdown menus and nothing else, not the gnome bar or anything-- this happened after a failed java plugin update
[22:08] <gromeo> guntbert, dpkg.log just says that initramfs-tools is half configured and that's it
[22:08] <Phusion> reinstalling hasn't worked
[22:08] <gromeo> last entry
[22:08] <sliwowitz> Is there a way to install initrd image from the LiveCD?
[22:08] <Masterkiller> sliwowitz, i'm trying to do the same
[22:08] <digitalice> hey
[22:08] <digitalice> md5 is fine
[22:09] <Masterkiller> sliwowitz, my first problem is i've run out of space (memory) trying ot make modules_install DOH
[22:09] <ed0n0n> Phusion: I went to dinner, I came back, screensaver was on, and tried to play music again but could not. I was using xmms2, restarted it but nothing. Then tried Audacious, hunged up. Then amarok and says xine cannot find a driver. I restart alsa etc, but cannot play music anymore, and dont want to restart, If I do It will play music again. Using AC'97 motherboard sound.
[22:09] <Phusion> yikes!
[22:09] <Phusion> not sure man, I take it you've rebooted :/
[22:09] <deagle> ed0n0n: do you have another sound card or just the MoBo's?
[22:10] <sliwowitz> Masterkiller I had no such problems. The install just started throwing a lot of errors due to unconfigured packages etc.
[22:10] <ed0n0n> deagle: only Mobo' s
[22:10] <deagle> ed0n0n: there went my idea :P
[22:10] <guntbert> gromeo: sorry, I'm a bit out of my depth there :(
[22:10] <Masterkiller> sliwowitz, check this out, except on the live cd its a diff version of initrd http://lissot.net/partition/ramdisk.html
[22:11] <sliwowitz> Masterkiller> It finished at around 50% telling me that the installation is complete, but some packages didn't install
[22:11] <ed0n0n> Phusion: this started happening since last kernel update, If I am not wrong.
[22:11] <Masterkiller> sliwowitz, ah ok so you are doing an install, i'm repairing a kernel :(
[22:11] <Phusion> ed0n0n: must be loading wrong driver
[22:11] <oskar-> sliwowitz: you can try to boot from live cd, mount the system, chroot into it, and then try to install the missing things. if you need instructions regarding chroot, look perhaps at the gentoo handbook, here: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=1&chap=6#doc_chap1
[22:11] <ed0n0n> Phusion: I have been playing music for hours...
[22:11] <sliwowitz> Masterkiller Actually I was doing an upgrade
[22:11] <Masterkiller> i need to find stuff to delete while running this live cd to make room for my module install :(
[22:11] <deagle> ed0n0n: lsmod | grep snd
[22:12] <gromeo> how can I enlarge /boot partition guys
[22:12] <deagle> ed0n0n: look for snd AC97 or something like that
[22:12] <gromeo> if / is all other left on device?
[22:12] <gaintsura> hey all, I just ran update manager and it seems to be a constant problem, Every time mysql-server-5.0 updates, it fails and I have to manually remove and install it again, does anyone have any suggestions?
[22:12] <sliwowitz> oskar- That was my first idea, but I'm not sure if I can run anything inside the chroot, because every command runs into the libc issue
[22:12] <gaintsura> gromeo: shrink / with gparted, and grow /boot with gparted
[22:12] <ed0n0n> deagle: it's there in many diff lines
[22:12] <deagle> :s
[22:13] <Muniz> Hiho
[22:13] <deagle> open volume control
[22:13] <gromeo> can't install gparted my apt is broken
[22:13] <stoneDJay> hi... after 8.10 upgrade, my acpi doesnt work right anymore... how can I fix it?
[22:13] <sliwowitz> oskar- it goes like: chown: /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.8' not found (required by /lib/libselinux.so.1)
[22:13] <pyBry_> So, I looked at /etc/groups, it appears that group 0 is the root group trying to figure out how to change ownership of a file.
[22:13] <pyBry_> What is interesting is that there are 30+ groups listed, but it looks like there is something off.
[22:13] <pyBry_> It looks like there are no members in the groups.
[22:13] <pyBry_> They are in the format:
[22:13] <pyBry_> NAME:x:ddd:  # shouldn't there be something here?
[22:13] <pyBry_> There should be a list of the users in that group after the digits, correct?
[22:13] <FloodBot1> pyBry_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:13] <AzizLight> I typed gconftool-2 --set /desktop/gnome/interface/gtk_key_theme Emacs --type string in a terminal to get emacs keybindings in firefox's text fields but it turned out to suck. now if I put --unset instead of set it gives me this message: Value type is only relevant when setting a value. How can I get the normal key bindings back please?
[22:13] <oskar-> sliwowitz: is the libc missing, or is it only missing in the initrd/because of an empty initrd?
[22:14] <oskar-> i would give it a try
[22:14] <ed0n0n> Phusion: deagle: gonna restart an see if it works,
[22:14] <chamuscas> hello people
[22:14] <ed0n0n> brb
[22:14] <cwill747> !hi | chamuscas
[22:14] <deagle> ummm
[22:14] <deagle> no?
[22:14] <deagle> ed0n0n: what did you change?
[22:14] <jtisme> !hello |chamuscas
[22:14] <oskar-> sliwowitz: you can also download the libc-package and install it from the live cd with some of these dpkg-* command
[22:15] <sliwowitz> oskar- those would be different issues. but libc is here
[22:15] <Guest30230> welcome  du schweitz
[22:15] <ed0n0n> deagle: nothing, I just notices the other day, that after reebot it works, so that's what Im doing, Tell you about it, after reboot
[22:16] <deagle> righty-oh's
[22:16] <sliwowitz> oskar- I'd like to solve the initrd issue first.
[22:16] <Guest30230> i my proplems for monitor schrieft grand
[22:17] <tapas> hi, i have absolutely no luck with neither ath_pci et.al. and ath5k
[22:17] <tapas> i see no networks at all
[22:17] <tapas> using a cardbus netgear ar5000 card
[22:17] <pyBry_> I was looking in /etc/group and it appears that although I have 30+ groups, there are no  group members listed.
[22:17] <pyBry_> They are in the format: GroupName:x:ddd:
[22:17] <pyBry_> There should be a list of the users in that group after the digits correct?
[22:19] <DiabloHorn> good evening
[22:19] <jtisme> pyBry_, depends not all groups have more than one user
[22:20] <gromeo> how can I resize partitions from the command line?
[22:20] <gromeo> resize /, make it smaller, resize /boot, make it bigger?
[22:20] <Lucifer_> yooooooooo
[22:21] <jtisme> gromeo, you have to use  gparted  boot cd not from cli
[22:21] <gromeo> it's a UMPC no cd
[22:21] <DiabloHorn> does anyone have experience chrooting apache2 in ubuntu?
[22:21] <Lucifer_> what is a good irc bot 4 Ubuntu >?
[22:21] <jtisme> gromeo, what is a umpc
[22:21] <gromeo> laptop with no cd
[22:21] <pyBry_> It looks like only one of the groups has a member. Does a user not have to be in a group?
[22:22] <gromeo> and apt is broken due to lack of free space on /boot
[22:22] <Masterkiller> can i remove my /var/cache? using live cd need more disk space
[22:22] <stoneDJay> How can I activate my compiz again after upgrade to 8.10?
[22:22] <Lucifer_> what is a good irc bot 4 Ubuntu >?
[22:22] <jtisme> Lucifer_, xchat is what i use
[22:22] <gavagai> Gnome Terminal seems to do something nonstandard.  when i am ssh'ed into another server and then suspend my laptop, when i bring it back online the terminal window is just frozen.  it doesn't realize that it has lost the connection.  in other terminals it has always noticed that the connection is lost.  how can i change this behavior?  it is annoying to have to close the terminal and start another
[22:23] <jtisme> gromeo, hmm i am thinking
[22:23] <Dulak> MasterKiller: you can chroot into your / and run apt-get clean to clear out /var/cache/apt, don't do it manually
[22:23] <oskar-> gavagai: press "~" and then "."
[22:23] <jtisme> gromeo, how did you install OS
[22:23] <Masterkiller> Dulak, ok, not taking it off my real install just the working live environment. deleting docs and whatever i can find to make temp room to finish my kernel modules_install
[22:24] <chamuscas> how can i open or run a file.run :p
[22:24] <gromeo> using live usb
[22:24] <Lucifer_> i have a irc server, and i want a bot that makes channels automaticly en gives certain op rights.  any ideas ?
[22:24] <gavagai> oskar-, thanks.  i just tried that.  it didn't do anything.
[22:24] <Lucifer_> to certain people
[22:24] <gromeo> I think I fixed it :)
[22:24] <Masterkiller> Dulak, can you think of anything else i can delete from live cd environment?
[22:25] <gromeo> deleted some crap from /boot (a temp kernel file)
[22:25] <jtisme> gromeo, interesting
[22:25] <gromeo> but still knowing how to do it from comand line would help
[22:25] <benj007> hi
[22:25] <Pretto> does anyone here know how to make Acer Bison Webcam work on ubuntu?
[22:25] <oskar-> gavagai: it should tell the ssh client to terminate the connection
[22:25] <YlandeFaran> Doesn't "archive manager" manage .rar files?
[22:26] <YlandeFaran> How do I get the content of a .rar file?
[22:26] <Dulak> MasterKiller: I don't get what you're doing
[22:26] <jtisme> gromeo, i dont know of a shrink/grow from the command line for /
[22:26] <benj007> how are you ?
[22:26] <es-web> Hi, when i plug my headphones in, the speakers in my laptop is not muted but keeps on playing. I have a Intel HDA card
[22:26] <Dulak> MasterKiller: you're trying to master acustom livecd with your own kernel?
[22:26] <jtisme> gromeo, maybe someone else does
[22:27] <Masterkiller> Dulak, removing open office files helped a lot. well i am compile a kernel. i've booted into a live cd (old kernel had panick) and with all the packages it took to compile the kernel it took up all the memory (or virtual disk) so i can't complete the modules_install so i can copy it ot my boot drive
[22:27] <benj007> I'm on a fresh intrepid installation but the "quick search" feature in Synaptic doesn't find anything
[22:27] <Masterkiller> dulak, just trying to free up the virtual disk from live cd
[22:27] <|Chrizz|> How can you install themes on gnome?
[22:27] <MattP2> I apologize that my problems are very "noob"ish, but I'm really trying to find this out on ym own as much as I can.  A:  My network button on the top right panel disappeared, I was able to add a similar button back, but it no longer has the drop down menu to choose networks.  Was this due to an update perhaps?
[22:27] <Dulak> Masterkiller: yeah not sure what all it puts on there you can delete, never had to do that before
[22:28] <chupy> jtisme: are you there?
[22:28] <acrousey> what happened to the "Screen and Graphics" app in Intrepid? I just got a new screen, and I was hoping that I would be able to just go into that app because it is a GUI where you can go in and just pick out your monitor from a list of brands and models. Anyone know how to get into that anymore in Ibex?
[22:28] <jtisme> chupy, yes
[22:28] <MattP2> Because of this, I can no longer figure out how to enter my credentials to log onto the universities encrypted ethernet connection
[22:28] <chupy> nothing
[22:28] <MattP2> Anyone know what's happening?
[22:28] <Scunizi> I'm running ibex live cd and find that gparted can't find my SATA drive for some reason, but can find my ide drive. Any hints, tips, advice?
[22:28] <jtisme> chupy, do u have sound
[22:28] <chupy> i dont have sound yet
[22:29] <jtisme> chupy, nothing on internet about your type of card
[22:29] <chupy> yes
[22:29] <platius> Pretto; http://lwn.net/Articles/291036/   says the latest version gspca should support Bison
[22:29] <oskar-> MattP2: it is likely, that nm-applet has crashed. it is a very unstable piece of software, obviously only tested for very common cases. press alt+f2, type "nm-applet" and press OK
[22:29] <|Chrizz|> Does anyone know where i can find themes for gnome?
[22:29] <chupy> i do some things but dont solve the problem
[22:30] <scientes> how do i open another gdm that iwll let me log in again?
[22:30] <DIFH-iceroot> |Chrizz|: google, gnome-look.org, arts.gnome.org
[22:31] <jtisme> chupy, when you go to system->preferences-> sound what r the names of the devices in the dialog boxes there
[22:31] <Scunizi> scientes: a different one? or just to restart the one you have?
[22:31] <|Chrizz|> DIFH-iceroot: I searched on google, and hgot on the gnome website, but none of the themes work
[22:31] <Masterkiller> dulak, when i do a df it shows that the unionfs is full at 100% but all the other drives varrun, varlock, udev, devshm, lrm, tmpfs are all at 0% or 1% any way i can get the make modules_install to use that instead?
[22:31] <chupy> there arent devices
[22:31] <scientes> Scunizi, another one, cause the switcher applet wont let me log in twice
[22:31] <oskar-> scientes: from gnome via the logout dialog, from console with "gdmflexiserver" or maybe others
[22:31] <DIFH-iceroot> |Chrizz|: then describe your error to the whole channel
[22:32] <MattP2> Thank you oscar, now I have the net work settings box, but I have no idea where I can put my credentials in.  I know the university uses the wireless encryption 802.1x, i'm not sure what to call it when it's wired.  I feel like I had a diferent menu before, am I just crazy?
[22:32] <Scunizi> scientes: you could create another user and do it that way.. but I don't know how to log in twice with two instances of gdm
[22:32] <Scunizi> * and the same user name
[22:32] <ed0n0n> Phusion: Have restarted and Sounds Cool!
[22:33] <ed0n0n> Phusion: Just don't know why that happens :(
[22:33] <chupy> i also put this line in alsa-base options snd-hda-nvidia model=hp probe_mask=8
[22:33] <AlexPalmer> Hi.  I have been having problems with my computer crashing after updating to 8.10
[22:33] <AlexPalmer> any ideas?
[22:33] <oskar-> MattP2: right click on that icon, edit connections, edit you eth0 connection. there you should find the 802.1X settings
[22:34] <mr_polite> AlexPalmer: reinstall 8.04. Ibex is a mess
[22:34] <AlexPalmer> ok
[22:34] <AlexPalmer> is there a way to do that without deleting all the files?
[22:34] <mr_polite> theres a reason its an LTS
[22:35] <mr_polite> AlexPalmer: only if you've created a separate partition for /home and whatever else you dont want to lose
[22:35] <Scunizi> Help. Trying to reinstall after a motherboard & HD replacement. Ibex doesn't see my SATA(300) drive at all! any solutions?
[22:35] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[22:35] <Guest50862> Hello, i have a laptop Fujutsu Siemens Amilo pro v2030 and Ubuntu 8.10 installed, but i can't fix my resolution to 1024x768
[22:35] <Guest50862> now it is 640x480
[22:35] <oskar-> AlexPalmer:  maybe your problem can be solved without the trouble of downgrading, if you describe it a bit
[22:35] <ActionParsnip> Scunizi: does it show up in sudo fdisk -l?
[22:35] <Guest50862> can somebody help me?
[22:35] <AlexPalmer> ok, so there is no way to do a downgrade similar to the way i upgraded through synaptic monitor
[22:35] <phantomcircuit> my DVD drive won't open and theres a cd in it
[22:35] <phantomcircuit> it was working fine a minute ago
[22:36] <mr_polite> AlexPalmer: otherwise you can just backup your stuff and do a fresh install 0 this time remembering to create a /home partition
[22:36] <Scunizi> ActionParsnip: no
[22:36] <phantomcircuit> also mount /dev/scd0 /media/cdrom0 doesn't work
[22:36] <ActionParsnip> Scunizi: does it show up in BIOS?
[22:36] <phantomcircuit> help
[22:36] <Scunizi> ActionParsnip: yes. I just got done loading windows on it.
[22:36] <AlexPalmer> i'm confused about that mr_polite
[22:36] <es-web> Is there a way to mute the speakers in my laptop when I plug my headphones in?
[22:36] <TerminalError> is there a way to save maybe not even the files but save what programs have been installed mr_polite not necessarly from the synaptic but at least the ones from the proram you download from add/remove if possible
[22:36] <AlexPalmer> create a new /home partition?
[22:36] <Guest50862> can somebody help me :) ?
[22:36] <ActionParsnip> phantomcircuit: sudo eject /dev/scd0
[22:36] <AlexPalmer> or save my old one and make a new one for 8.04
[22:36] <mcquaid> i just upgraded a 8.04 box to 8.10.  so far so good except wireless.  it works if I connect to the wireless network while in gnome, but i have no net outside of gnome
[22:37] <mcquaid> this box is mainly used for mythtv, so I just run a barebones WM and not gnome
[22:37] <mr_polite> AlexPalmer: its really simple. when youre setting up your new install, have the installer create a separate home partition
[22:37] <ActionParsnip> Scunizi: ceck dmesg for kernel errors releating to the drive / sata controller beeing loaded
[22:37] <AlexPalmer> ok
[22:37] <ActionParsnip> Scunizi: dmesg | less
[22:37] <|ns|nR8> my sound works but not in youtube..ive reinstalled flash non free...anyone ?
[22:37] <mcquaid> /etc/network/interfaces looks the same, is that not used anymore?
[22:37] <mercutio22> Guest50862: go into system>settings>screen resolution
[22:37] <chupy> when i test the sound it says me this audiotestsrc wave=sine freq=512 ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink: Failed to connect stream: Invalid argument.
[22:37] <phantomcircuit> ActionParsnip, thanks, any idea what would cause that to happen?
[22:37] <mr_polite> AlexPalmer: that way no matter what, you always have your /home
[22:37] <AlexPalmer> ok
[22:37] <AlexPalmer> that's a good idea
[22:37] <Guest50862> mercutio22: i don't see a thing if i set it to a higher resolution
[22:38] <AlexPalmer> i think it usually crashes when in transmission, but it has crashed while not using transmission
[22:38] <Guest50862> mercutio22: i'm using a laptop (with unichrome drivers)
[22:38] <mr_polite> you might want to do /opt aswell, just incase you instal a lot of apps that are distro independent
[22:38] <Guest50862> mercutio22: amilo pro v2030
[22:38] <ActionParsnip> phantomcircuit: no idea dude
[22:38] <ActionParsnip> phantomcircuit: did it pop out?
[22:38] <phantomcircuit> yup
[22:38] <oskar-> mcquaid:  then you should deactivate networkmanager and manage the connections on your own. there are many tutorials for setting up wpa_supplicant out there
[22:38] <AlexPalmer> is there a way to save my transmission info so when i load into 8.04 i can start where i left off?
[22:39] <mercutio22> Guest50862: did you find the system>preferences>screen resolution thing?
[22:39] <Guest50862> mercutio22: i know where it is
[22:39] <ActionParsnip> phantomcircuit: uber
[22:39] <mcquaid> oskar-, if i disable networkmanager will it work like it did before 8.10? and how do i disable network manager?
[22:39] <Guest50862> mercutio22: but i can't chose any other
[22:39] <ActionParsnip> phantomcircuit: id reboot if its good to do so
[22:39] <Guest50862> mercutio22: i've changed my xorg.conf file
[22:39] <mcquaid> afaik networkmanager just read settings from /etc/network/interfaces
[22:39] <mercutio22> Guest50862: now clic Detect displays
[22:39] <Guest50862> mercutio22: nothing happens
[22:39] <phantomcircuit> ActionParsnip, alright
[22:39] <|ns|nR8> my sound works but not in youtube..ive reinstalled flash non free..anyone help ?
[22:40] <mcquaid> and right now i'm doing this without encryption so no need for wpa_suppplicant
[22:40] <YlandeFaran> When I try to start "vlc" from the terminal, nothing starts. I get this message: http://rafb.net/p/QSTcz665.html
[22:40] <mcquaid> it's just not working outside gnome even though interfaces looks like it did before
[22:40] <mercutio22> Guest50862: whats your video card?
[22:40] <paul___> How do I build an application from source?
[22:40] <ActionParsnip> |ns|nR8: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=590989
[22:40] <|ns|nR8> thanks
[22:40] <DIFH-iceroot> paul___: there is no *.deb?
[22:40] <ActionParsnip> |ns|nR8: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/edubuntu-users/2007-July/001338.html
[22:40] <paul___> nope
[22:40] <Slart> paul___: you mean compile something like.. apache or something?
[22:41] <paul___> yes
[22:41] <DasEi> !compile > ﻿paul___
[22:41] <paul___> I have a makefile
[22:41] <DIFH-iceroot> paul___: look at the readme, normally ./configure & make & make install
[22:41] <ActionParsnip> |ns|nR8: if you are running 64bit linux, try nspluginwrapper -i /path/to/flashplayer.so file thingy
[22:41] <ActionParsnip> |ns|nR8: it can help
[22:41] <Slart> paul___: it's usually ./configure, make, sudo make install.. but it can be different
[22:41] <Guest50862> mercutio22: S3G uniChrome Pro IGP integrated
[22:41] <Slart> !compile
[22:41] <Guest50862> mercutio22: i think
[22:41] <mercutio22> Guest50862: pastebin the output of lspci | grep Video
[22:41] <sliwowitz> oskar- after getting my encrypted partitions to mount from the livecd, chroot doesn't work. every command just throws /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.8' not found (required by /lib/libselinux.so.1)
[22:42] <Guest50862> mercutio22: how do i pastebin 0:) ?
[22:42] <oskar-> mcquaid: perhaps you can uninstall network-manager. please ask others for a clean way. i only read this recommendation somewhere ;-)
[22:42] <sliwowitz> oskar- I guess I may try to just copy all files belonging to libc package from the livecd to the harddrive
[22:42] <DIFH-iceroot> !pastebin | Guest50862
[22:42] <AlexPalmer> is it possible to save my transmission download history in 8.10 and put it into 8.04 when i downgrade so i can start off where i started
[22:42] <oskar-> sliwowitz: you should do something similar to that:
[22:43] <ActionParsnip> AlexPalmer: if you look in ~/ do you see a .trasmission folder or similar?
[22:43] <mercutio22> Guest50862: www.pastebin.ca
[22:43] <DasEi> AlexPalmer: safe the torrent-file and the started !ut-files, can use any manager
[22:43] <oskar-> sliwowitz: one moment....
[22:43] <Guest50862> mercutio22: it gives me nothing :(
[22:43] <AlexPalmer> ok.  i'll look.  thanks
[22:43] <Guest50862> but glxgears work
[22:43] <Guest50862> mercutio22: but glxgears work
[22:43] <Scunizi> ActionParsnip: any ideas?  I got rid of "quiet splash" on boot and noticed that when the sys was loading it mentioned "driver "sd" needs updating. Please use bus_type methods"  Any ideas?
[22:43] <elpargo> anyone here has a xps m1530 ? I'll looking for feedback as to how well it works.
[22:43] <chupy> jtisme: any ideas?
[22:44] <mercutio22> Guest50862: ok, thats right. pastebin the output of lspci
[22:44] <Rioting_pacifist> samaba maxed out at about 1mb/s on a wireless connection, is this a samba limit or is something just setup wrong?
[22:44] <Pretto> platius, my "Bus 005 Device 003: ID 0402:5602 ALi Corp. Video Camera Controller"   is not there :(
[22:44] <ShinobiTeno> Hey people! I have a question regarding shell scripting.
[22:44] <ShinobiTeno> I make a simple script with comparsion "if [ $myvariable -ne 0]".
[22:44] <ShinobiTeno> BUT if myvariable has ". :)", or ". :" in it, like in "Hello. :)", test function, [ ], produces an error "binary operator expected".
[22:44] <ShinobiTeno> How to correct this? any ideas???
[22:44] <ActionParsnip> Scunizi: http://www.mail-archive.com/linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org/msg249400.html
[22:44] <Rioting_pacifist> Pretto: is this a swively webcam
[22:44] <jtisme> chupy, sorry no other than force uninstalling all alsa and pulseaudio and reinstalling
[22:45] <oskar-> sliwowitz: load the libc-ubuntu-package file (.deb), and then install it with: dpkg --root=/mnt/myharddisc -i libcxxxx.deb
[22:45] <chupy> i have already do it and nothing :S i will have to format
[22:45] <jtisme> chupy, not sure if that would do it but that would be my next step
[22:45] <mercutio22> Pretto: I made that camera work once
[22:45] <Pretto> Rioting_pacifist, I instaled it on windows and it shows "Bison webcam"
[22:45] <AlexPalmer> DasEi:  I am in the .transmission folder.  I see a cache folder, gtk folder and torrents folder, aswell as a file called stats.benc
[22:45] <RickX> has anyone else had problems getting chromium (asteroids game) working in Heron?
[22:45] <sliwowitz> ok. seems much better than my idea
[22:45] <Rioting_pacifist> yeah but is it one that physically swivels?
[22:45] <oskar-> sliwowitz: maybe that's it. but maybe more is broken. then it could get much work, where a clean installation might be better
[22:45] <jtisme> chupy, but be4 doing that ask your quesiton again in the channel to see if anyone else responds
[22:45] <Pretto> mercutio22, do you have the steps needed?
[22:46] <Guest50862> mercutio22: there it is http://paste.ubuntu.com/71538/
[22:46] <blz777> mercutio22: i am blz777 :)
[22:46] <chupy> ok i will try....
[22:46] <Pretto> I am wait support for it since feisty
[22:46] <blz777> mercutio22: :D (changed my nick from guest)
[22:46] <Pretto> waiting*
[22:46] <chupy> thanks
[22:46] <ActionParsnip> Scunizi: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/mandriva-30/driver-sd-needs-updating-please-use-bustype-methods-667380/
[22:46] <AlexPalmer> ActionParsnip:  I found the ~/.transmission folder
[22:46] <mercutio22> blz777: gotcha
[22:46] <sliwowitz> oskar- yes. I keep my home partition separate, so if it wouldn't work by 1:30 AM I'm opting to just press the Install button
[22:46] <blz777> mercutio22: :)
[22:46] <AlexPalmer> what should i do next?  copy it?
[22:47] <DasEi> AlexPalmer: 1) you had a torrent file, which you start the d/l with > safe that   2)you told transmission where to store d/l's > safe folder (including subfolders)
[22:47] <oskar-> sliwowitz: ok, good luck ;-)
[22:47] <csilk> !dns
[22:47] <mercutio22> blz777: I guess this is it: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. CN700/P4M800 Pro/P4M800 CE/VN800 [S3 UniChrome Pro] (rev 01)
[22:47] <sliwowitz> oskar- even if the update failed horribly, I doubt any other OS would let me do the reinstall that easily
[22:47] <georgy_28> !bind
[22:47] <AlexPalmer> oh.  i think i deleted the .torrent file i had
[22:47] <blz777> mercutio22: yes it is :)
[22:47] <scientes> any way to get the enlightment menu on the desktop in gnome?
[22:48] <scientes> and add in enlightment
[22:48] <ActionParsnip> AlexPalmer: ok, create a new user and copy it to the new users ~/ to test what you can achieve
[22:48] <mercutio22> blz777: hold on, lets search google for known issues
[22:48] <AlexPalmer> ok
[22:48] <AlexPalmer> thank you
[22:48] <Pretto> mercutio22, ??
[22:48] <blz777> mercutio22: i've tried :( but with not much success
[22:48] <benj007> I'm on a fresh intrepid installation but the "quick search" feature in Synaptic doesn't find anything :(
[22:49] <Rioting_pacifist> Pretto: if we are talking about an internal laptop webcam, there are 2 seperate problems 1) the usb connection assigns it a new address on swiveling and the webcam doesnt like it so isnt picked up by lsusb 2) no drivers so you need to install alpha drviers from sourceforge
[22:49] <chupy> i need help i compile an alsa driver (before doing that i have sound) i want to go back when i have sound... i have already tried reinstalling alsa pulse and many other things so please help
[22:49] <chupy> know i dont have sound
[22:49] <mercutio22> Pretto: it was a long time ago... I remember there was a google group that were reverse engineering the driver
[22:49] <DasEi> benj007:apt-cache search     in terminal ?
[22:49] <Pretto> Rioting_pacifist, it is internal
[22:50] <ActionParsnip> Scunizi: http://marc.info/?l=linux-scsi&m=121000463825804&w=2
[22:50] <chupy> any ideas?
[22:50] <Rioting_pacifist> yeah, when it shows up then a build of the m560x driver SHOULD work with it, but when it doesnt show up a cold reboot is the only way ive found of getting it added to lsusb
[22:51] <hatemtmtm> hi i want to install new font ?! how
[22:51] <benj007> thanks DasEi, yes it works with apt-cache search, for example for mplayer "quick search" in synaptic only returns "pulse audio"
[22:51] <smkeesle> have a 8.04 box that will not boot. Errors "ALERT! /dev/disk/by-uuid/xxxxxxx does not exist" and dumps me to busybox session
[22:51] <Pretto> Rioting_pacifist, i think i did a lot of reboots here since feisty :D
[22:51] <benj007> and nothing for a lot of name,
[22:51] <sliwowitz> oskar- Great! I can now chroot into the new environment
[22:51] <benj007> but i have not filters set
[22:52] <chupy> hatemtmtm: sudo nautilus... fonts are on usr/share/fonts and paste
[22:52] <Pretto> Rioting_pacifist, do you know where I can download and compile that driver?
[22:52] <oskar-> sliwowitz: that's fine :-)
[22:52] <Rioting_pacifist> i think theyre on sourceforge but it is alpha software
[22:52] <hatemtmtm> chupy:thnx
[22:52] <DasEi> benj007:I#am actually on hardy, have ibex on another machine, but - sources.list ?  search in everywhre activated ?   and apt-cache search accepts wildcards
[22:52] <ShinobiTeno> no one??
[22:52] <mercutio22> blz777: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-laptop-and-netbook-25/chinese-laptop-founder-unichrome-pro-graph-card-drivers-568900/
[22:52] <FWP-> yo
[22:52] <gourdin> I just upgrade to intrepid
[22:53] <Rioting_pacifist> Pretto: http://m560x-driver.sourceforge.net/
[22:53] <gourdin> my screen blink every 5 sec on X
[22:53] <gourdin> Is this a known bug ?
[22:53] <smkeesle> from Busybox, I see no /dev/disk directories
[22:53] <DasEi> gourdin : ati card ?
[22:53] <chupy> i need help i compile an alsa driver (before doing that i have sound) i want to go back when i have sound... i have already tried reinstalling alsa pulse and many other things so please help know i dont have sound
[22:53] <gourdin> DasEi: intel
[22:53] <sliwowitz> oskar- but 'update-initramfs -c -k all' updated only the old kernel from 8.04.. that's weird
[22:53] <gourdin> 945
[22:53] <mercutio22> blz777: looks like more people have your issue
[22:53] <benj007> DasEi: mplayer is in the list and my sources are the defaults sources, no problems (ok with the normal search in synaptic, but not with the quick one)
[22:53] <ActionParsnip> gourdin: try dropping your refresh rate slightly
[22:53] <Pretto> thank you Rioting_pacifist
[22:54] <blz777> mercutio22: i know this :) i have used ubuntu before
[22:54] <wazon> hey
[22:54] <DasEi> gourdin : had the same after fresh install, had to configure xorg manually (used an old from hardy)
[22:54] <blz777> mercutio22: but haven't used it for a while.. :) hoped that someone solved that problem
[22:54] <wazon> could someone recomend me dovecot or courier?
[22:54] <smkeesle> what sets up the /dev/disk/by-uuid directory?
[22:54] <blz777> mercutio22: i always have great difficulties making my video work
[22:54] <chupy> any ideas?
[22:54] <gourdin> DasEi: oki, great :)
[22:55] <gourdin> ActionParsnip: how ?
[22:55] <Rioting_pacifist> Pretto: np i hope you get it working, it worksforme when lsusb shows my device
[22:55] <FWP-> I'll find out
[22:55] <AlexPalmer> my headphone jack on my Vaio VGN-FZ240E doesn't work.  The audio card is recognized but not the audio jack.  does anyone have a fix, i have been unable to find one
[22:55] <Pretto> Rioting_pacifist, here lsub  always show it :D
[22:55] <oskar-> sliwowitz: hm, try to install the kernel package of 8.10, apt-get install linux-image   (?)  sorry, i must leave. nearly midnight for me here ;) gn8
[22:56] <gourdin> ActionParsnip: my refresh rate is on "Auto" it wont accept something else
[22:56] <DasEi> ﻿AlexPalmer: gnome or kde ?
[22:56] <AlexPalmer> gnome
[22:56] <sliwowitz> oskar- it's near midnight here as well
[22:56] <Rioting_pacifist> hmm perhaps my internal wire is broken :(
[22:56] <neuratix> how can i see what is using my sound-device?
[22:56] <matreya6> I'm trying to get DVD playback to work. I have followed the instructions and got lidvdcss installed. I'm using Intrepid Ibex (64 bit)
[22:56] <AlexPalmer> it didn't' work in 8.04 or 8.10.  i believe that it did however in 7.1
[22:56] <sliwowitz> oskar- Thanks for your help. I guess I'll make it from here
[22:56] <AlexPalmer> 7.10*
[22:56] <DasEi> ﻿AlexPalmer: try gnome-mixer > switches> phone
[22:57] <AlexPalmer> where is that?  the gnome-mixer
[22:57] <fen`> all my windows applications running under crossover are having font corruption, any ideas (i've tried installing msttcorefonts) example:http://www.f3n.org/stuff/outlook-wine-fontcorruption.png
[22:57] <ActionParsnip> gourdin: try specifying it in xorg.conf
[22:57] <chupy> well in ubuntu is something like sistem restore on windows or time machine on mac... i dont want back up tools.
[22:57] <omucuvaca> hello again...is there a way to create a RAID array after installing ubuntu? i have a second SATA drive that i want to mirror on
[22:57] <gourdin> I don't have any console when ctrl alt F1
[22:57] <Dr_willis>   fen`  ive heard theres some nvidia/driver/font issue.. bvut ive not seen it happen to me..
[22:58] <Daejeo> anyone used ISPconfig?
[22:58] <fen`> Dr_willis: would that be the case even withouth running compiz?
[22:58] <Sk33t> sup dudes
[22:58] <Daejeo> i just installed, but i am unable to access
[22:58] <Dr_willis> fen`,  no idea. Ive not been paying attention to the people mentionign the problem.
[22:58] <AlexPalmer> DesEi:  where do i find gnome-mixer?  is it an application?
[22:58] <mercutio22> blz777: it seems your card is produced by the chinese. I had a problem with a camera made in china as well. The company that made it, ali corp, would not diclose the driver code so there was no good driver for linux
[22:58] <Dr_willis> night all...
[22:59] <neuratix> how can i see what is using my sound-device?
[22:59] <blz777> mercutio22: :(
[22:59] <gourdin> omg
[22:59] <gourdin> this is bullshit
[22:59] <Raylz> AlexPalmer: doubleklick on the speaker symbol in your panel
[22:59] <matreya6> VLC plays encrypted DVD's but crashes after a few seconds with bad visuals. I'm using a SATA DVD RW from Asus via Intel ICH10 chipset on Intrepid Ibex 64 . I've got all codecs installed, including libdvdCSS. I get lot's of Buffer I/O error on my drive sr1
[22:59] <omucuvaca> uhmm...any help with my RAID problem? :(
[22:59] <tilkster> hey guys.. if i want to download an earlier revision in svn what is hte command
[22:59] <tilkster> svn checkout...
[22:59] <tilkster> so like im downloading revision 10 right now
[23:00] <tilkster> buti  want to DL revision 9
[23:00] <chupy> well i will have to format
[23:00] <tilkster> ...
[23:00] <AlexPalmer> ok, thanks
[23:00] <tilkster> svn check wht "website?
[23:00] <AlexPalmer> i'm trying it now
[23:00] <tilkster> svn checkout ???? website?
[23:00] <tilkster> but like how?
[23:00] <Raylz> matreya6: libdvdcss isnt enought anymore
[23:00] <Raylz> matreya6: im having problems with a lot of dvds too
[23:00] <Cmclean> umm my sound just stopped working... I had it on for a long time...
[23:00] <mercutio22> blz777: sorry man, keep searching...
[23:00] <romanskij> hiho ubuntu user
[23:01] <blz777> mercutio22: 10x a lot :)
[23:01] <Raylz> matreya6: dont buy dvds
[23:01] <matreya6> Raylz: What do you need as extra codecs/ libs?
[23:01] <matteo_> Hi all, anyone knows a good partition manager to DOWNLOAD? Thx alot
[23:01] <Pici> matteo_: gparted
[23:01] <egoflux> do u guys know how the whole dvd region thing works/
[23:01] <Pici> !gparted | matteo_
[23:01] <Raylz> matreya6: id be happy to know it, just dont buy dvds ;)
[23:01] <ActionParsnip> !ot | egoflux
[23:01] <Cmclean> It works in all regions    1-6?
[23:01] <Raylz> matreya6: anything with drm should be boycotted
[23:01] <matreya6> Raylz, That's hardly an answer, I have hundreds of DVD's that used to play fine on my other box using Hardy on a PATA DVD drive
[23:02] <ActionParsnip> matteo_: gwget
[23:02] <ubuntu_newbie> Does anyone know anything about NVidia restricted drivers?>
[23:02] <romanskij> need a agere / lucent usb modem driver can somebody help
[23:02] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu_newbie: what of them?
[23:02] <mercutio22> blz777:
[23:02] <egoflux> there's always a prick
[23:02] <ActionParsnip> romanskij: what does lsusb say?
[23:02] <mercutio22> blz777: have you tried this? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenChrome
[23:02] <Raylz> matreya6: and they dont work on ibex anymore?
[23:02] <blz777> mercutio22: i'm trying it now :)
[23:03] <ActionParsnip> egoflux: 1. watch yuor language 2. This is Ubuntu support. asking how dvd regions is not ubuntu related
[23:03] <romanskij> oha i´m not on the ubuntu machine
[23:03] <DasEi> ﻿ubuntu_newbie: sth, not everything
[23:03] <romanskij> but it detects it
[23:03] <Slart> !ask | ubuntu_newbie
[23:03] <ubuntu_newbie> ActionParsnip: When I activate them, my resolution sets to like 600x400 and I get change it.
[23:03] <hatemtmtm> i want to install my vga driver ati radion x1100
[23:03] <egoflux> anyone know how to change the dvd region on ubuntu?
[23:03] <matreya6> Raylz: My old box is KT600 based, my new box IntelICH10 that's several generations between them. I'm almost sure it's my SATA giving problems as the other box has Ibex installed as well (32 bits)
[23:03] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu_newbie: install nvidia-settings and run it with gksudo
[23:04] <egoflux> ActionParsnip, there, shut up...and prick isn't a swear word
[23:04] <Macros42> well feisty->gutsy upgrade is nearly completed - it was nice knowing you guys :D
[23:04] <Slart> egoflux: I don't think ubuntu cares about regions
[23:04] <ActionParsnip> egoflux: its a british swearword
[23:04] <egoflux> not an american swear word...
[23:04] <mikebeecham> I'm a fairly new Linux user, come across from Windows....do I need to defrag my hard drive, from time to time?
[23:04] <Macros42> Slart: can you play regioned disks without setting a region?
[23:05] <egoflux> using that logic i could say fag as many times as i wanted to
[23:05] <egoflux> fag = cigarrete in england
[23:05] <Slart> Macros42: on a software player, I think so
[23:05] <tripitakit> mikebeecham: no u dont need to do it
[23:05] <matreya6> Raylz: Buffer I/O errors are not DRM-related. They are driver failures. My Drives work perfectly under Windows XP 64, so it must be the drivers or the kernel.
[23:05] <Macros42> Slart: nvm - I just remembered I never installed decss on my htpc :D that's possibly why I couldn't play them :D
[23:05] <Slart> Macros42: but I can't really say I've played a lot of commercial dvds in my computer..
[23:05] <VPS|KDE> mikebeecham: no, you dont need to defrag
[23:06] <Raylz> matreya6: ok, i just had very bad experiences with dvds
[23:06] <ActionParsnip> egoflux: its used in the same context as any agressive noun, just drop it, its not cool
[23:06] <mikebeecham> tripitakit: why not?  Is it that Linux works differently from windows in that respect?  What happens when I delete files from my hdd?
[23:06] <Macros42> Slart: me neither - htpc in place for months - tried my first dvd on Monday
[23:06] <mikebeecham> same question for VPS|KDE
[23:06] <Slart> Macros42: that sounds more plausible =)
[23:06] <AlexPalmer> my computer just crashed again using 8.10!!!
[23:06] <AlexPalmer> number and scroll lock are flashing and the hdd light is off
[23:06] <glaksmono> hello, for some reason
[23:06] <matreya6> Raylz, I understand that from you, but I'm a semi-pro DVD reviewer, so it's crucial I get this to work.
[23:06] <VPS|KDE> mikebeecham: the filesystem that linux has does all that for you
[23:06] <glaksmono> when i minimize the window, i don't see the application on the bottom panel :(
[23:06] <glaksmono> any ideas?
[23:07] <mikebeecham> VPS|KDE: cool
[23:07] <glaksmono> i don't see the minimized application on the bottom panel :(
[23:07] <tripitakit> mikebeecham: it works differntly yes,
[23:07] <Whyvas> glaksmono try ctrl-alt-backspace
[23:07] <Slart> mikebeecham: linux handles the placing of files differently from windows.. you might still get some fragmentation but it's not really something you can do about it.. well.. apart from not filling your drives completely
[23:07] <mikebeecham> VPS|KDE: so is there any maintenance that I need to be concerned about, or is that just a windows concern?
[23:07] <Macros42> cruel
[23:07] <VPS|KDE> mikebeecham: also you dont have to restart your computer, just restart X if something goes screwy :)
[23:07] <matreya6> [ 5089.658273] end_request: I/O error, dev sr1, sector 1412
[23:07] <matreya6> [ 5089.658280] Buffer I/O error on device sr1, logical block 353
[23:07] <ActionParsnip> glaksmono: right click panel -> add (something) and add program list or similar  ( i dont use gnome )
[23:08] <VPS|KDE> mikebeecham: nope, its all automatic, no need for virus scanners either
[23:08] <Slart> mikebeecham: there was a defrag program some time ago but if I recall correctly it was a 50/50 chance of trashing the file system when you used it =/
[23:08] <mikebeecham> VPS|KDE: restart X is just ctrl+alt+backspace?
[23:08] <VPS|KDE> aye
[23:08] <Macros42> mikebeecham: yep
[23:08] <mikebeecham> this just gets better and better :D
[23:08] <VPS|KDE> !Virus
[23:08] <Masterkiller> if i rm something from command line i dont have to clear anything to make it permanantly gone do i?
[23:08] <Macros42> does anyone know of a gnome version of yakuake?
[23:08] <glaksmono> it's still doesn't work :(
[23:08] <Slart> Masterkiller: nope.. it's gone
[23:08] <Whyvas> Masterkiller, no, it's gone
[23:08] <Macros42> -version +equivalent
[23:08] <ActionParsnip> glaksmono: just add the "window list" to the "toolbar"
[23:08] <matreya6> Macros42, try tilde
[23:09] <glaksmono> ActionParsnip, how?
[23:09] <mikebeecham> now to find a media center better than itunes
[23:09] <mikebeecham> media player**
[23:09] <Raylz> Macros42: tilde didnt meet my expectations
[23:09] <Macros42> mikebeecham: they're all better than itunes :D
[23:09] <Whyvas> mikebeecham try synaptic
[23:09] <mikebeecham> Macros42: lol
[23:09] <matreya6> mikebeecham, Rythmbox works fine for me.
[23:09] <glaksmono> ActionParsnip, i got it
[23:09] <ActionParsnip> glaksmono:  right click taskbar -> add item (or add something, i cant be exact)
[23:09] <Macros42> tried it before - no comparison to yakuake
[23:09] <glaksmono> ActionParsnip, Thanks a lot!
[23:09] <tripitakit> i do like exaile
[23:09] <ActionParsnip> glaksmono: np
[23:10] <Raylz> mikebeecham: try amarok or banshee
[23:10] <ActionParsnip> Macros42: yakuake is kde based so gnome users would install a tonne of kde libs
[23:10] <ActionParsnip> Macros42: i use kde + yakuake, its awesome
[23:10] <Macros42> -would +do - I'm a gnome user and I have installed yakuake - it's worth the extra libs tbh
[23:10] <VPS|KDE> <3 KDE
[23:11] <Macros42> o_O - better switch to the lappy - think the upgrade is complaining
[23:12] <AlexPalmer> if i changed the kernel (i don't know how to though) would that possibly stop the crashes i got with 8.10?
[23:12] <Sorcererbob> unlikely
[23:12] <AlexPalmer> i just don't want to lose my transmission stuff
[23:12] <aprilhare> Hello: question: When I disconnect my HP LaserJet printer and reconnect it, the printer is disabled and must be reenabled in the System->Administration->Printing menu. is there a way to force it to "plug and play" properly? If not, is this a genuine bug?
[23:12] <getxsick> hi, is there a channel related to ubuntu-eee distribution?
[23:12] <Raylz> AlexPalmer: depends on what causes the error
[23:12] <Raylz> AlexPalmer: if it doesnt work try hardy ;)
[23:12] <AlexPalmer> ok.  i have no idea what is causing the problems.  I was in hardy and updated through synaptic
[23:12] <RamLinux> hi can make a Edubuntu LTSP Classroom Server in a vmware?
[23:12] <Raylz> AlexPalmer: ibex isnt "stable" yet
[23:12] <AlexPalmer> and then the problems came
[23:12] <ActionParsnip> AlexPalmer: read all the logs you can to diagnose
[23:13] <Raylz> AlexPalmer: ye, such updates cause these problems
[23:13] <RamLinux>  hi can make a Edubuntu LTSP Classroom Server in a vmware?
[23:13] <AlexPalmer> it just totally crashes and i have to hold the power buttong
[23:13] <egoflux> is virtual box in the repos?
[23:13] <Riz1> anyone know how to setup big desktop for dual monitors?
[23:13] <AlexPalmer> button
[23:13] <Raylz> AlexPalmer: always install the new version, dist-upgrading is a btch
[23:13] <Riz1> have been banging my head with this once since evening
[23:13] <Masterkiller> if i JUST need to do a make modueles_install what packages do i need?
[23:13] <VPS|KDE> yes it is egoflux
[23:13] <panfist> if i try to unmount something and i get a message that is busy, how can i force unmount
[23:14] <AlexPalmer> Raylz:  ok, thanks for the advise.  is there a way to dist-downgrade?
[23:14] <mr_polite> AlexPalmer: id suggest, again, reverting to the LTS release: 8.04. this time on your install make a /home partiont so you dont lose data/settings/themes when you upgrade downgrade or install a whole different distro
[23:14] <Macros42> WTF - my upgrade just aborted
[23:14] <Raylz> AlexPalmer: that wouldnt solve your problem
[23:14] <AlexPalmer> so i can keep my transmission
[23:14] <Raylz> AlexPalmer: you mean the torrent client?
[23:14] <AlexPalmer> i just don't want to lose the transmission
[23:14] <AlexPalmer> yeah
[23:14] <AlexPalmer> i am like 90 percent done with this file
[23:15] <Macros42> this is not going to end well - upgrade to gutsy just aborted with an error and now the pc is rebooting
[23:15] <Smegzor> I've added a 2nd drive to a computer that has xp on the 1st drive.  The 2nd drive has xubuntu on it and I did a grub repair, but when I reboot its still giving me the windows mbr, not grub.  What do I do now?
[23:15] <AlexPalmer> and it has taken over a week
[23:15] <Raylz> AlexPalmer: backup your home dir
[23:15] <AlexPalmer> i don't want to have to start over
[23:15] <mr_polite> AlexPalmer: what version of transmission are you running?
[23:15] <mikebeecham> hmmm...seems the big debate online is banshee vs rhythmbox
[23:15] <mikebeecham> pah!
[23:15] <ActionParsnip> AlexPalmer: then just finish the download and then do what you were gonna do
[23:15] <AlexPalmer> ok.  1.34
[23:15] <AlexPalmer> it crashes whenever i try to use transmission
[23:15] <AlexPalmer> after about 10 minutes
[23:15] <Smegzor> mikebeecham: amarok all the way :)
[23:15] <mr_polite> AlexPalmer: install the newest version of transmission, you'll need to add a repo
[23:16] <mr_polite> or find a deb
[23:16] <mr_polite> latest is: 1.40b2
[23:16] <Raylz> mikebeecham: only use gnome + amarok ;)
[23:16] <AlexPalmer> ok.  i was wondering, because i have 1.40 on my mac but couldn't get it to upgrade
[23:16] <AlexPalmer> thanks, i'll try to find the repo on their site
[23:16] <mr_polite> let me check my repo list
[23:16] <mikebeecham> Raylz: I really dont like the KDE 'feel'
[23:16] <VPS|KDE> hey now
[23:16] <mr_polite> nvrmind - you can find it
[23:16] <Uplink> where can i find login themes?
[23:17] <AlexPalmer> thanks mr_polite
[23:18] <panfist> how do you force kill a process...sudo kill pid is not working
[23:18] <AlexPalmer> killall then the app name
[23:18] <VPS|KDE> kill -9
[23:18] <mr_polite> panfist: killall app name
[23:18] <AlexPalmer> or kill and the process number
[23:19] <Dejas> Hello. I am trying out ubuntu using the "run from cd" option and am having problems connecting to my wireless network.  As per the help guide, I tried a "sudo lshw -C network" but did not see my device listed.  I found a reference on the internet to "sudo lsusb" and using that command I *can* see my device.  The local help files do not adddress the issue of the device not being listed in lshw... what would be the next step?
[23:19] <ActionParsnip> panfist: sudo kill -9 <pid>
[23:19] <antares> hello every1
[23:19] <panfist> thank you everyone
[23:20] <mr_polite> antares: hello
[23:20] <VPS|KDE> if its a hung GUI app you can just type 'xkill' in a terminal  and click on the app that refuses to die
[23:20] <mercutio22> can someone please helo me out? I lost my partition table
[23:20] <mercutio22> I am desperate
[23:20] <mr_polite> !ask
[23:20] <antares> i've got a problem here...i have a HP compaq laptop with integrated wlan&bluetooth...the problem is when i press the button to turn them on, the blue LED doesn't go on, and only the wlan works, the bluetooth no?
[23:20] <mercutio22> oh cmon
[23:21] <Smegzor> Uplink: http://www.gnome-look.org/ and http://www.kde-look.org/
[23:21] <mercutio22> I lost my partition table man! Whats wrong with you?
[23:21] <Uplink> Smegzor: yea but what are the themes called?
[23:21] <antares> any ideas?
[23:21] <georgy_28> !bluetooth | antares
[23:22] <Smegzor> in gnome look, i think you want gdm themes
[23:22] <CarlFK> how can i disable compbiz from the comand line?
[23:22] <CarlFK> load is over 6, but I do have a ssh connection
[23:22] <Dejas> Can anyone comment on what it means when my wireless USB nic is listed using "lsusb" but not "lshw -C network" ?
[23:23] <AlexPalmer> mr_polite: thank you, i got the new version of transmission installed.
[23:23] <tripitakit> killall compiz; metacity &
[23:23] <m1dn1ght> Hey guys - anyone ever had any trouble with ctrl+alt+f1,2,3,4 etc not switching consoles?  Suddenly noticed not working for me.  Neither is the "printscreen" key.
[23:23]  * lifestream asks: Hey, I'm about to reinstall ubuntu so I thought I'd install Xubuntu instead o of Ubuntu. The only question of concern is: Do MOUSE  Previous Song/Next Song work on XUBUNTU?
[23:23] <granado> buenas noches a tod@s
[23:23] <lifestream> m1dn1ght,  is this after you woke up your computer from suspend or hibernate?
[23:23] <tripitakit> CarlFK: in gnome, killall compiz; metacity &
[23:23] <antares> georgy_28, yeah... For Gutsy Gibbon (7.10) and above most of the instructions below are obsolete. For 7.10, just plug in your supported adapter and an icon appears in the top right. Right click to setup your preferences. Devices will auto connect to your PC and you can setup security as you connect each device, e.g. your phone.
[23:23] <CarlFK> tripitakit: why the &?
[23:23] <antares> but it doesn't
[23:23] <antares> i can not plug it in
[23:23] <antares> it's integrated
[23:23] <tripitakit> CarlFK: to puti in background so u can eit the teminal leavin metacity on
[23:23] <m1dn1ght> lifestream: nope - I'm totally non acpi or apic so suspend or hibernate is out of question
[23:24] <antares> is there a command in terminal to turn it on? or to see if it's there at all?
[23:24] <Smegzor> Uplink: in kde look i think u want kdm themes
[23:24] <lifestream> m1dn1ght, Grrr sorry, I thought you might have had a similar issue to mine
[23:24] <Uplink> Smegzor: GDM
[23:24] <m1dn1ght> lifestream:  Ah :)  sorry
[23:24] <tripitakit> CarlFK: maybe the real effect is not that one but i got it like this
[23:25] <antares> anyone?
[23:25] <tripitakit> CarlFK: if u dont use & when u close the terminal u kill metacity too
[23:25] <Smegzor> Uplink: good luck finding gnome desktop themes on the kde site ;)  i assume you're running gnome so gdm on gnome look for you.
[23:25] <matteo_> hi all anyone knows how to creat a network between my pc and my laptop (for data exchange) with my wireless router?
[23:25] <Uplink> Smegzor: yes u assumptions are correct
[23:26] <AlexPalmer> is there a way to schedule a program shutdown?  I know how to schedule a system shutdown but have wanted to shut down a program at a certain point in time.
[23:26] <Riz1> anyone know how to setup big desktop for dual monitors?
[23:26] <Riz1> have been banging my head with this once since evening
[23:26] <georgy_28> antares : try hciconfig to see if device is up
[23:26] <ActionParsnip> !samba | matteo_
[23:26] <deagle> hello all
[23:26] <antares> georgy_28, nothing happened
[23:26] <mr_polite> deagle: hello
[23:26] <Ultimax> hay im having some problems with my resolution ubuntu cant detect my displays and the fixes from the faq dont seem to work
[23:26] <deagle> anyone gotta clue as to where the session management thingie for startup programs went?
[23:26] <CarlFK> tripitakit: got it.  thans
[23:26] <deagle> mr_polite: you're so rude :P
[23:27] <georgy_28> antares so device is not up
[23:27] <ActionParsnip> matteo_: that will allow you to share data, it depends what system interaction you desire
[23:27] <tripitakit> CarlFK: ur welcome
[23:27] <mr_polite> lol
[23:27] <matteo_> both my PC use Ubuntu, so i don't have to Use Samba for Networking isn't it?
[23:27] <antares> georgy_28, how do i make it up :)
[23:27] <ActionParsnip> !startup | deagle
[23:27] <deagle> ActionParsnip: nautilus?
[23:27] <Cmclean> I need video help. Everytime I start up my comp (8.10) the login screen in like 640 x 480 and looks like crap. Then after I login in it remains 640 x 480. So I go Preferences -> Screen Resolution. Max size 640 x 480. Then i go Admin -> Nvidia X serve settings and change it through there. It usually is on Auto but I change it to 1024 x 768. So how do I have the login screen normal and have my screen normal?
[23:28] <miamoto_musashi> anyone able to help me setup a loopback device that is owned (or at least fully accesasble) by non root user?
[23:28] <ActionParsnip> deagle: what of it?
[23:28] <Riz1> !bigdesktop
[23:28] <deagle> Cmclean: xorg.conf, take out the resolutions you don't want
[23:28] <Riz1> !big-desktop
[23:28] <Riz1> !dual
[23:28] <Riz1> !dualmonitor
[23:28] <egoflux> anyone use virtualbox?
[23:28] <deagle> ActionParsnip: it's not on the list but it keeps starting up
[23:28] <ActionParsnip> !dualhead | Riz1
[23:28] <AlexPalmer> egoflux: i have
[23:28] <tripitakit> !xinerama
[23:28] <ActionParsnip> deagle: any particular folder?
[23:28] <Cmclean> deagle: Umm i kinda a n00b so...
[23:28] <n8tuser> Cmclean-> whats the default if you do  xrandr -q
[23:28] <lifestream> Does anyone know if people are still seeding Ubuntu a lot? I was thinking of burning a CD real quick before I leave to my sisters house (200 miles away)
[23:29] <miamoto_musashi> egoflux: i do or have done
[23:29] <miamoto_musashi> am trying to now
[23:29] <boskoop> !DualHead
[23:29] <Cmclean> only 1 screen
[23:29] <Ultimax> i cant get any res options in x org config but over all i have the same problem
[23:29] <Riz1> ActionParsnip: want big desktop :) turns out compiz doesnt like dualhead/xinerama.
[23:29] <deagle> Cmclean: google is your friend then!
[23:29] <deagle> :D
[23:29] <miamoto_musashi> wassup egoflux
[23:29] <Cmclean> deagle: can you run through it?
[23:29] <deagle> ActionParsnip: i replaced it with rox but it keeps launching on startup (nautilus)
[23:30] <deagle> Cmclean: run wha?
[23:30] <ActionParsnip> deagle: then uninstall nautilus
[23:30] <Cmclean> deagle: How to fix the res problem
[23:30] <antares> georgy_28, i've read that it could be a problem in bios... i think there is an option to turn it on or off there... what do u think?
[23:30] <egoflux> AlexPalmer, miamoto_musashi, cant get vista running
[23:30] <boskoop> Cmclean: what kind of graphics card are you using?
[23:30] <georgy_28> antares : sudo /etc/init.d/bluetooth start then again hciconfig
[23:30] <CarlFK> what is update-apt-xapi and why is it soaking up my cpu?
[23:30] <miamoto_musashi> ah, k haven't tried that sorry
[23:30] <egoflux> oh waity
[23:30] <egoflux> i think i know why
[23:30] <egoflux> hold on
[23:30] <AlexPalmer> have you gone to system, administration, users and groups and added vbox permissions?
[23:30] <Cmclean> boskoop: sec
[23:30] <Ultimax> im using a nividea 760 gs
[23:30] <Pretto> Rioting_pacifist, http://paste.ubuntu.com/71552/
[23:30] <georgy_28> antares, : that's possible
[23:30] <n8tuser> Cmclean-> whats the default rez if you do  xrandr -q
[23:31] <deagle> Cmclean: sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf  goto the bottom look for a whole bunch'o "1920x1200" "1612x913" etc and delete the ones you don't use
[23:31] <deagle> simple as that :D
[23:31] <Cmclean> GeForce4 MX 440 with AGP8X (GPU 0
[23:31] <antares> antares@antares-nest:~$ sudo /etc/init.d/bluetooth start
[23:31] <antares>  * Starting Bluetooth services                                           [ OK ]
[23:31] <d0nets> ok im back, had to walk to class
[23:31] <deagle> ActionParsnip: i need it for easy USB auto-detection and stuff
[23:31] <deagle> :P
[23:31] <AlexPalmer> egoflux: has it ever worked?
[23:31] <deagle> it was fine in 8.04
[23:32] <d0nets> so anyone know what i do about the findutils and libc6?
[23:32] <ActionParsnip> deagle: hmm lemme websearch
[23:32] <d0nets> shit nevermind class is aboot to start
[23:32] <ActionParsnip> deagle: is it always teh same folder opened?
[23:32] <Ultimax> wow im going to a form this irc is just 2 crouded
[23:32] <antares> georgy_28, did u get what i pasted? ... i did the hciconfig then and it went in to a new row...nothing happened
[23:32] <AlexPalmer> ever since upgrading to 8.10 i cannot get it to stop crashing
[23:32] <[yzf600]> does ubuntu 8.10 autofs support LDAP entries like this: dn: cn=/layout,nisMapName=auto.master,dc=subasic,dc=sciatl,dc=com   objectClass: nisObject   nisMapName: auto.master
[23:32] <Cmclean> deagle: thx going to try
[23:32] <deagle> ActionParsnip: no folder opens, just the desktop stuff
[23:32] <ActionParsnip> AlexPalmer: its not fully polished yet
[23:32] <egoflux> nope...i didn't install the modules tho...doing that right now...
[23:32] <[yzf600]> the source package says it does
[23:32] <naenae8765> ok im having some problems with this older laptop of mine its a dell latitude CPx. i just recently installed Xubuntu 8.10 on it. and everything was working great. Untill i installed all the security and recomended updates. after it sseems now everytime i start it up i have no Panels. (the long bars that go across the top and bottom of the screen) they have dissapeared. and this is a problem because i need them to access my 
[23:32] <AlexPalmer> yeah, I know
[23:33] <[yzf600]> but I can't get it to work
[23:33] <matreya6> Raylz: My apologies, the solution was to install regionset. My DVD now plays perfectly and much, muuuch better than on Windows :-D
[23:33] <deagle> Cmclean: you won't see any changes (obviously) until you restart
[23:33] <georgy_28> antares: nothing else ?
[23:33] <AlexPalmer> How long do you expect before the next update.  I am wondering whether i should just go back to 8.04 and accept a week's loss of files
[23:33] <paspro>  
[23:33] <antares> georgy_28, no...
[23:33] <AlexPalmer> i know i can partition
[23:33] <egoflux> AlexPalmer: do i need the openvz or generic modules?
[23:33] <egoflux> or both?
[23:33] <antares> georgy_28, shoud there be an output?
[23:33] <deagle> Cmclean: just hit Ctrl.+Alt+backspace (save and close out stuff before you do so)
[23:33] <AlexPalmer> i am not sure, how did you install it?
[23:34] <deagle> LOL!
[23:34] <egoflux> AlexPalmer: from synaptic i selected virtualbox
[23:34] <egoflux> brb
[23:34] <georgy_28> antares: yes, normally you see you bluetooth device
[23:34] <AlexPalmer> egoflux:  oh, i tried that once but had problems.  try downloading it off virtualbox.org
[23:34] <AlexPalmer> and run it
[23:34] <antares> georgy_28, ok...i'll go try the bios thing
[23:35] <antares> tnx
[23:35] <georgy_28> antares, : good luck
[23:35] <Cmclean> deagle: umm there is no default res thingy when I do that....
[23:35] <deagle> Cmclean: who in the what now:?
[23:36] <Cmclean> deagle:  the command you gave      sudo get some file conf.x
[23:36] <mikem> hi, trying to set up virtual-planner on apache running on my box. i'm following this: http://virtual-planner.palepurple.co.uk/wiki/InstallationGuide Step 1.2.1 says to modify the apache config & restart apache. I tried modifying /etc/apache2/apache2.conf and /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default according to that, but i don't get the proper result. what am I missing?
[23:36] <lifestream>  *** Hey, I'm about to reinstall ubuntu so I thought I'd install Xubuntu instead o of Ubuntu. The only question of concern is: Do MOUSE  Previous Song/Next Song work on XUBUNTU?
[23:36] <EagleScreen> hello, i have a Broadcom BCM4312 wireless card, it works with the restricted driver "wl" in Ubuntu 8.10. Where can I obtain that driver to can export it to another distribution?
[23:36] <deagle> Cmclean: -.-
[23:37] <deagle> Cmclean: i'll step u through it
[23:37] <EagleScreen> is it in restricted repository?
[23:37] <AlexPalmer> Cmclean: i think he said sudo gedit conf.xorg
[23:37] <AlexPalmer> but i didn't check
[23:37] <Cmclean> AlexPalmer: likely
[23:37] <deagle> Cmclean: sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[23:37] <lifestream> Any of you able to use mouse buttons in XFCE (next/previous song, etc) on xfce without manual setup
[23:37] <AlexPalmer> that is how you edit the xorg.conf file he mentioned earlier
[23:38] <TurboBee> does anyone use freenx to remotely connect to their ubuntu box?  If so have you figured out a way to disconnect with out logging out?  (so your applications are still running when you log back in)
[23:38] <Smegzor> i've kinda worked out my problem with grub.  i set up xubuntu with the hd on a 2nd pc in which it was the only drive so both disks have an MBR.  Grub is repaired the wrong MBR.  How do I get it to replace the Windows MBR on drive 0 instead of repairing the MBR on drive 1?
[23:38] <Cmclean> deagle: okay got it
[23:38] <mr_polite> why does pidgin irc stop scrolling with the room?
[23:38] <Cmclean> use Xchat!
[23:38] <deagle> Cmclean: goto where it says Section "Screen"
[23:38] <TurboBee> nm i think i got it
[23:38] <truebosko> Hi, I'm trying to download Banshee 1.4 and it says (from Universe) when doing apt-get .. how do I specify to fetch from Universe repo?
[23:38] <VPS|KDE> irssi!
[23:39] <Cmclean> deagle: yes
[23:39] <Jeaton> i just installed wubi and booted to it
[23:39] <deagle> Cmclean: Subsection "Display" then modes "1280x1024" "1600x1200" etc
[23:39] <Jeaton> and after i inputted my username and password, it takes me to a blank screen
[23:39] <Jeaton> just a screen with a wallpaper
[23:39] <boskoop> Cmclean: so whats your desired resolution?
[23:40] <Cmclean> 1024 x 768
[23:40] <deagle> Cmclean: ...?
[23:40] <deagle> awesome
[23:40] <deagle> delete the other ones then
[23:40] <Cmclean> wait
[23:40] <deagle> o_O
[23:40] <Cmclean> deagle: http://paste.ubuntu.com/71556/
[23:40] <boskoop> :D
[23:40] <deagle> hhmmm...
[23:41] <Cmclean> deagle: thas the whole thing ctrl+a      paste
[23:41] <RickX> I just installed sensor modules from sensors-detect, and audio is not fast and high pitched. Does anyone know what ma have happened?
[23:41] <panfist> i had to reboot because i could not force unmount a drive...no matter what I did it was busy even with umount -l. then ubuntu took 10 minutes to boot because it kept repeated ata01 bad crc error over and over. now, i can no longer mount that filesystem. gparted can see the partition, filesystem type, and free space, but the device doesnt exist in /dev. any help please?
[23:42] <RickX> ... audio IS fast and IS high pitched.. sorry.
[23:42] <ActionParsnip> panfist: try lsof | grep <mountpointname> | less
[23:42] <Smegzor> yay!  i fixed grub :D  I had told it to setup hd1 instead of hd0 :X
[23:42] <VPS|KDE> !yay Smegzor
[23:43] <VPS|KDE> ...
[23:43] <VPS|KDE> epic fail
[23:43] <Smegzor> lol
[23:43] <VPS|KDE> anyways congrats :)
[23:43] <panfist> actionparsnip i just see a column of ~
[23:43] <deagle> Cmclean: http://paste.ubuntu.com/71560/
[23:43] <deagle> replace the Section "Screen" with that
[23:43] <deagle> make sure you know how to use xchat command line just in case :P
[23:44] <Smegzor> i don't know if this pc will actually work with xubuntu. it has rejected almost every live cd I threw at it.
[23:44] <Jeaton> i installed wubi, and booted to it, did my username and password, then it takes me to a blank screen
[23:44] <Jeaton> any ideas?
[23:44] <Cmclean> deagle: sorry
[23:44] <Cmclean> ???????/
[23:44] <Jeaton> by blank, i mean just a wallpaper
[23:44] <ActionParsnip> panfist: lsof shows all opened files so you can grep for stuff to make it intelligent
[23:44] <deagle> Cmclean: copy/paste that into the xorg.conf file
[23:44] <deagle> Cmclean: overwrite your Section "Screen" with that one
[23:45] <Cmclean> deagle: http://paste.ubuntu.com/71561/
[23:45] <LoveGuru> i just installed " squid " and did conf. when i try to open website it gave me error in return :< " The following error was encountered: Access Denied. Access control configuration prevents your request from being allowed at this time. Please contact your service provider if you feel this is incorrect.
[23:45] <Cmclean> deagle: thas the new file
[23:45] <deagle> good
[23:45] <Cmclean> deagle: save?
[23:45] <deagle> again, make sure your know how to use xchat command line before your restart xserver
[23:45] <deagle> yes, save
[23:46] <Chaotic_Descent> how do you, from FireFox, make a file that's a shortcut to a web address? I don't even know what that's called. I keep finding search results about how to add to your FireFox bookmarks, which isn't it. :(
[23:46] <binarymutant> how can I copy paste with mutt?
[23:46] <fen`> LoveGuru: you need to configure your access control lists to allow computers you want to acces the new
[23:46] <fen`> net*
[23:46] <finer_recliner> question: how i can stop tor from automatically starting on bootup? i dont use it very often, so i'd like to manually decide when it gets started
[23:46] <riegersn> is there a good equivlant to nnscript+mirc for linux? xchat just doesn't do it for me
[23:46] <AlexPalmer> deagle: do you know how i could transfer my transmission downloads over to another computer and finish them up there?
[23:46] <LoveGuru> fen`: i m new with that. and i can't figure out where is the problem  :< i check all file in which clause i have to change something :<
[23:46] <boskoop> deagle: doesn't the xorg.conf needs a Section "ServerLayout"?
[23:47] <Cmclean> deagle: thanks works great!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[23:47] <georgy_28> !update-rc.d
[23:47] <VPS|KDE> riegersn: no
[23:47] <Cmclean> !lol
[23:47] <deagle> Cmclean: :D yey!
[23:47] <Cmclean> lol?
[23:47] <torgrim_> laughing out load
[23:47] <zipIock> hii guys
[23:47] <LoveGuru> fen`: could you please help me  :< i can't figure out :<
[23:47] <riegersn> VPS|KDE, whats the default irc client in kde ?
[23:47] <jeeves_Moss> is there an easy way to access my ext3 partition from Windows?
[23:47] <fen`> see pm
[23:47] <zsquareplusc> i've now tried the "create USB start disk" feature two times and it failed to bood for the second time... (1st: crc error 2nd: vesamenu not found)... ideas?
[23:47] <LoveGuru> okie
[23:47] <ddgoose> riegersn, mirc works fine under wine
[23:48] <lifestream> Question...    Does anyone know what is the package responsible for making my mouse media buttons work? NOT KEYBOARD
[23:48] <abcd1> hi, i have problems connecting with my wireless card, i have an acer aspire 5715z laptop, with an atheros ar242x card, i have installed the backport modules and blacklisted ath_pci and ath_hal, so only ath5k is up, when i do "sudo ifconfig wlan0 up" it does go "up", but i can't scan any wireless networks
[23:48] <deagle> AlexPalmer: sure, just take with you the partially downloaded files and the original .torrent file to the other PC, paste the partials, open the .torrent file and you should be good to go
[23:48] <Cmclean> how do you say something about yourself in the 3rd person on an IRC     I think there is a command...
[23:48] <riegersn> im running it now, its not really that great with the nnscript installed. a lot of visual glitches for me
[23:48] <VPS|KDE> riegersn: not sure i just recently switched to KDE sorry. I use xchat and Irssi personally.
[23:48] <deagle> "/me does this or that"
[23:48]  * deagle does this or that
[23:48] <zsquareplusc> Cmclean: /me
[23:48]  * Cmclean is running away
[23:48] <AlexPalmer> ok.  thank you
[23:48] <jeeves_Moss> deagle, any ideas on accessing a EXT3 partition from windows?
[23:48] <deagle> np!
[23:49]  * Cmclean is going to #windows to go on a hatin' spree!
[23:49] <AlexPalmer> i want to be able to downgrade back to 8.04 or at least reinstall
[23:49] <georgy_28> finer_recliner, : you can do that with the update-rc.d command, google to know to use it
[23:49] <deagle> jeeves_Moss: there's a program --i think it's called ext3 viewer-- or something like that
[23:49] <Chaotic_Descent> Can Ubuntu even have files that are shortcuts to web addresses?
[23:49] <jeeves_Moss> deagle, will it let me r/w?
[23:49] <deagle> jeeves_Moss: last i used it, it would only let you read, not write
[23:49] <Mo0oSaH> jeeves_Moss: try ext2ifs
[23:49] <deagle> =\
[23:49] <finer_recliner> georgy_28: thanks for the recommendation, ill look into it
[23:49] <abcd1> hi, i have problems connecting with my wireless card, i have an acer aspire 5715z laptop, with an atheros ar242x card, i have installed the backport modules and blacklisted ath_pci and ath_hal, so only ath5k is up, when i do "sudo ifconfig wlan0 up" it does go "up", but i can't scan any wireless networks. i am running ubuntu 8.10 32bit
[23:50] <filosofixit> Anyone know the progress of the Network-Manager-PPTP bug?
[23:50] <zsquareplusc> Chaotic_Descent: not as symlinks but as shortcut files, yes
[23:50] <jeeves_Moss> Mo0oSaH, have you tried it?  I'm attempting to recover 500+Gb of data from a disk that I CAN'T loose
[23:50] <deagle> >_O anyone know how to PERMANENTLY kill nautilus from CLI?
[23:50] <deagle> i want that sucker DEAD
[23:50] <Mo0oSaH> jeeves_Moss: Yes, I use it every day when I have to log into windows for certain programs.
[23:50] <Chaotic_Descent> zsquareplusc: what do I search for on the web for info on that? what's it called? web shortcut file?
[23:50] <node357> deagle, pkill nautilus ?
[23:51] <jeeves_Moss> Mo0oSaH, ok, thanks.  as I Said, I CAN'T loose this data
[23:51] <ddgoose> deagle, try -> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[23:51] <AlexPalmer> does anyone know how to create a volume (or whatever it's called) of a file that is too big to copy to a fat32 drive, so i can copy the volumes seperately
[23:51] <deagle> node357: :( it comes back to life
[23:51] <Mo0oSaH> jeeves_Moss: Yea, I understand... I know it works for me but I can't guarantee anything.
[23:51] <abcd1> hi, i have problems connecting with my wireless card, i have an acer aspire 5715z laptop, with an atheros ar242x card, i have installed the backport modules and blacklisted ath_pci and ath_hal, so only ath5k is up, when i do "sudo ifconfig wlan0 up" it does go "up", but i can't scan any wireless networks
[23:52] <deagle> ddgoose: my goal is to replace nautilus with rox :) but thanks though, appreciate the gesture
[23:52] <Mo0oSaH> deagle: killall nautils?
[23:52] <jeeves_Moss> Mo0oSaH, thanks again
[23:52] <deagle> Mo0oSaH: nope
[23:52] <Cmclean> dang banned from windows...............
[23:52] <Mo0oSaH> jeeves_Moss: np =)
[23:52] <zsquareplusc> Chaotic_Descent: just drag the address of a firefox window to the desktop and see what you get :-)
[23:52] <boskoop> jeeves_moss: http://www.fs-driver.org/ i'm using it to on my dualboot laptop
[23:52] <Chaotic_Descent> zsquareplusc: I need to CREATE the files first. I can't do that.
[23:52] <boskoop> :(
[23:52] <Chaotic_Descent> zsquareplusc: I was hoping I could find the info online but I can't.
[23:53] <abcd1> hi, i have problems connecting with my wireless card, i have an acer aspire 5715z laptop, with an atheros ar242x card, i have installed the backport modules and blacklisted ath_pci and ath_hal, so only ath5k is up, when i do "sudo ifconfig wlan0 up" it does go "up", but i can't scan any wireless networks
[23:53] <zsquareplusc> Chaotic_Descent: well if you do that you get a file you can look at. so you can learn how to create such files manually
[23:53] <Chaotic_Descent> zsquareplusc: dragging the address from FireFox to my file browser creates a file that's not a link to the address, but more like "Save page as"
[23:53] <Chaotic_Descent> zsquareplusc: I don't have a file to do that with.
[23:53] <filosofixit> It is really frustrating not beeing able to connect to my universty's network over vpn (pptp) after I upgraded to intrepid :( Anyone that could help me?
[23:54] <zsquareplusc> Chaotic_Descent: ok, i dragged the icon left of the http address. but it creates a shortcut here
[23:54] <Markov> hello, I am trying to rip CDs in mp3 format using sound juicer. I do no see MP3 in the list of Output Formats, but I do see it when I click on Edit Profiles... How can I use the MP3 "profile" to rip my album?
[23:54] <binarymutant> how can I copy paste in mutt with a mouse?
[23:55] <deagle> middle button?
[23:55] <deagle> X11 uses it
[23:55] <Chaotic_Descent> zsquareplusc: ... on mine it just saves the HTML file. =(
[23:55] <greghere> when installing Ubuntu, and at the partitioning stage, whats the difference between "/" and "/boot" ?
[23:55] <skylar_> where is grub.conf
[23:56] <boskoop> greghere: / ist the root partition, which means that root is mounted there
[23:56] <zsquareplusc> Chaotic_Descent: see PM
[23:56] <deagle> greghere: /boot will be accessed when you boot the computer / is where everything else goes
[23:56] <schnoowork> anyone know what folder i need to back up to save my evolution email accounts ?
[23:56] <greghere> boskoop, What if I used /boot?
[23:56] <boskoop> greghere: if you want to add a sepparate partition for your boot-files you can add a /boot partition
[23:56] <skylar_> setup grub.conf to boot this vmlinuz file as kernel and initrd.img as the initrd.  <- there is no grub.conf...
[23:57] <AlexPalmer> does anyone know how to create multiple small zip files out of one big file?  I have a file too big to store on a fat32 hdd
[23:57] <boskoop> greghere: you always need a / (root) partition
[23:57] <jrib> AlexPalmer: any problem with just using 'split'?
[23:57] <linxeh> AlexPalmer: you could just run "split" on it for now, and cat them together etc
[23:57] <linxeh> AlexPalmer: longer term you could repackage it as a multi-part zip
[23:57] <AlexPalmer> what is split?  is it a preinstalled application? and will i be able to reassemble them in OS X
[23:57] <greghere> so I could use /boot for boot files, / for linux install and /home formy stuff?
[23:57] <droopsta915> is there an open office chat?
[23:58] <jrib> !openoffice | droopsta915
[23:58] <boskoop> greghere: /root partition is optional
[23:58] <deagle> greghere: that would be the idea :D
[23:58] <jrib> AlexPalmer: yes, you have the 'cat' command on osx
[23:58] <boskoop> greghere: right
[23:58] <AlexPalmer> jrib: can you explain the steps for me.  thanks
[23:58] <borislav_simic> whatever I do I can not watch you-tube on ubuntu
[23:58] <droopsta915> I know what it is, I have a few questions and was wondering if there is a room to ask in?
[23:58] <linxeh> AlexPalmer: yes, definitely. OSX has everything you want available (look at macports.org too for other options)
[23:58] <ddgoose> deagle, look here for your non sarcaastic answer :P -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=48169
[23:58] <greghere> boskoop, so if I used /boot and /home all would be ok?
[23:59] <AlexPalmer> ok, thanks
[23:59] <Mo0oSaH> borislav_simic: are you running 8.10?
[23:59] <borislav_simic> yes
[23:59] <Orchid`> so i canot get yahoo isntant messenger to work on hardy heron anyone know woow to fix this?
[23:59] <boskoop> greghere i use /boot for my boot files too (size 100MB)
[23:59] <boskoop> nope
[23:59] <Cmclean> Orchid`: you using pidgin?
[23:59] <jrib> AlexPalmer: you would split the files (split's man page should be an easy read), then to put the together you just do: cat file1 file2 ... fileN > file
[23:59] <boskoop> you absolutely need a / partition
[23:59] <funkyHat> Orchid`: you can use pidgin instant messenger to connect to yahoo IM
[23:59] <deagle> ddgoose: i've tried that method like 29834729834 times before, it don't work
[23:59] <borislav_simic> i tried all the available browsers
[23:59] <AlexPalmer> linxeh: would i type 'sudo split /home/___
[23:59] <AlexPalmer> jrib:  ok, thanks