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nyp4lifeemma: sudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf00:00
nyp4lifeand check in the section "Device"00:00
nyp4lifeshould say Driver "ati" if you haven't done anything to it00:01
emmanyp4life: this is the TOTALITY of my xorg.conf --- http://club-ubuntu.pastebin.com/m7e26f47b00:02
emmaI think that ubuntu decided to do something to make xorg.conf deprecated00:02
szrhawaiican anyone help me on making a .os file00:03
szrhawaiihow do i go about making one00:03
nyp4lifeemma: ok im not sure but i think the default is 'ati' if nothing is there..00:03
emmaOkay yeah it's confusing.00:03
nyp4lifego download radeonhd from adept if you haven't already00:04
emmaI never really understood the old xorg.conf but I was able to follow examples online to make it do stuff I needed. Now they changed it so that xorg.conf doesn't do anything.00:04
emmaI think they must have made it easier some how.00:04
ActionParsnipemma: sudo apt-get install envyng-qt; kdesudo envyng-qt00:05
emmawhat does that do?00:05
ActionParsnip!info envyng00:05
ubottuPackage envyng does not exist in intrepid00:05
ActionParsnip!info envyng-qt00:05
ubottuenvyng-qt (source: envyng-qt): install the ATI or the NVIDIA driver. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.1 (intrepid), package size 103 kB, installed size 472 kB00:05
ActionParsnip!envy | emma00:06
ubottuemma: envyng is an updated version of the *UNSUPPORTED* envy package. It is now part of the ubuntu universe repository (envyng-gtk OR envyng-qt) we suggest you use envyng if every other (official/supported) method fails! it can have various results from works, to fails!!!  if you want the very latest drivers from the manufacturer you use them at your own risk00:06
szrhawaiidoes anyone know where i can find information on making .so files00:06
nejodeemma: try this first, it won't hurt> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fglrx-installer/+bug/284408/comments/1500:06
nejodeemma: then try to install with envy00:06
emmato me it seems like i must have ati00:07
emmai'm using x right now with guis00:07
emmasince I'm definitely not using fglrx, seems like I must be using ati, no?00:08
emmaI think I just need to buy a new videocard, do you guys know what video card will surely work very nicely with Kubuntu?00:08
ActionParsnipemma: try lshw00:08
ActionParsnipemma: see what driver you are on00:09
emmaokay00:09
JediatNightwhy can't i play DVD's on my ubuntu installation ?  I have installed the restricted format codecs and no dvd player ( VLC , mplayer ) is able to play DVDs . .can anyone suggest what's wrong?00:10
_2i just broke over 13 thousand commands by moving a data dir.00:14
_2anyone ever beet that ?00:14
emmathis is what it says in lshw - configuration: driver=fglrx_pci latency=64 mingnt=8 module=fglrx00:14
nejodeJediatNight: have you tried installing libdvdcss?00:15
_2!dvd00:15
ubottuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats00:15
ekontsevoyI am trying to switch from Ubuntu to Kubuntu but there are two issues I can't solve.00:16
ekontsevoyFirst, is font rendering. On Ubuntu I used ot set antialiasing (on) and hinting (slight) - that gave me very beefy, contrasty but slightly blurry funts (simiar to OSX) but on KDE4/Kubuntu it doesn't matter what I do: fonts look pretty much the same (I don't see a difference)00:17
ekontsevoyI ran dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig-config to make sure that I have the native hinting enabled and subpixel rendering was set to "Always". (just like I always did in Gnome). But the level of hinting does not seem to change anything in KDE.00:18
ekontsevoySecond, the wireless. First, Kubuntu does not try to reconnect after I reboot, I have to manually pick my wi-fi. Second, with Intel 5300 agn it sometimes just freezes when connecting (even mouse isn't moving).00:18
kalajsihi00:19
supertonesekontsevoy: system settings has a fonts section in appearance you can force antialiasing00:20
ekontsevoysupertones: yes, that is where I've been doing all this.00:20
ekontsevoySlight/Medium/Full hinting - they all look the same (looks like it's always 'full'). And subpixel rendering is always 'off' regardless of my setting.00:20
supertonesthats all i got :/00:20
supertonesyou are restarting your apps right?00:21
_2ekontsevoy this might sound condesending,  but; you did "apply" the changes didn't you?00:21
ekontsevoy_2: yes I did. When I disable hinting alltogether, then I notice the change (on new apps).00:22
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JediatNighti could fix the dvd issue00:23
_2ekontsevoy i only asked because some comming from gah-know-meh to kde don't notice that where gnome applies everything as soon as you touch it, kde waits until you tell it to apply things.00:24
dwidmann!dvdcss | JediatNight`00:24
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about dvdcss00:24
dwidmann!css | JediatNight00:24
ubottuJediatNight: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats00:24
dwidmannmaybe00:24
dwidmann!dvd | JediatNight00:24
dwidmannguess that's just an alias for the same thing, oh well00:24
ekontsevoy_2: yes, I noticed that difference.00:25
_2dwidmann yeah lots of aliases to that one infonode00:25
dwidmannJediatNight: any rate, long story short, you need to install libdvdcss200:26
bashbinhi00:27
dwidmannhi00:27
bashbina question please....00:27
bashbinyoutube-dl does not work any more00:27
bashbinI guess its because they changed something on youtube's website00:27
bashbina) could someone verfiy if it really dows not work any more?00:27
bashbinb) what else can I do to grad a youtube video?00:28
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dwidmannbashbin: hrm, last time I checked it still worked00:28
bashbindwidmann, youtube-dl URL00:29
bashbinor  youtube-dl -t URL00:29
bashbinlike that?00:29
dwidmannbashbin: youtube-dl URL00:29
dwidmannbashbin: or alternatively, just the last part of the url00:29
bashbinyep, does not work00:29
dwidmannbashbin: hrm, maybe you have a broken copy of the script, have this: http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/1602200:30
bashbindwidmann, this is a python-script, right?00:31
bashbinso I save it as youtube.py ?00:31
dwidmannbashbin: right00:31
bashbinand then I install python ?00:31
dwidmannbashbin: don't forget to chmod +x it00:31
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bashbinof course00:31
bashbindwidmann, 1 moment pls00:32
ubuntuI have a white desktop when I boot into my install, how do I fix this??00:33
_2!ati > ubuntu00:34
ubottuubuntu, please see my private message00:34
ubuntuaha, Im nvidia00:34
bashbindwidmann, http://pastebin.com/d858a8ad00:35
ubuntuI also can't get my wifi going till I can see on the desktop, is there a method to enable a wifi connection from command line?00:35
bashbindwidmann, the XXX in the URL are just because I did not want to paste the real URL00:35
deamoonhi guys00:35
deamooncould u tell mehow could i upgrade mine kde to new one?00:36
deamoonim new on linux00:36
dwidmannbashbin: I've noticed youtube-dl doesn't work on quite all youtube things ... seems to work on most though00:36
dwidmanndeamoon: are you using kubuntu 8.10 or 8.04?00:36
bashbindo what else can I do to get the video down?00:36
dwidmannbashbin: I've no idea00:37
_2deamoon what version are you running ?     show us the output of   lsb_release -r ;kwin --version00:37
bashbindeamoon, I would not upgrade00:37
bashbinstick to 3.x00:37
dwidmannbashbin: maybe you'll find it in your browser cache00:37
deamoony not?00:37
bashbindeamoon, if I say, KDE4 sucks,  we will have war inside here00:37
bashbinbut just stick to KDE 3 as long as its supported00:37
_2joe is better than kate00:37
dwidmannbashbin: if you say KDE4 is incomplete, nobody will argue though.00:38
bashbinmaybe KDE 4 will fullfill all the needed requirements until then00:38
bashbin+1 dwidmann00:38
deamooni c00:38
bashbin_2, I like anna more than lee00:38
dwidmannit's complete enough for daily use by a lot of people, but not everybody ...00:38
deamoonRelease:        8.0400:39
deamoonQt: 3.3.8b00:39
deamoonKDE: 3.5.1000:39
deamoonKWin: 3.000:39
bashbindwidmann, there are many things missing00:39
deamoonthats mine stats00:39
bashbindeamoon, so stick to it00:39
_2deamoon ok you can either install kde4 along side kde3 in your hardy release  or you can upgrade to intrepid which comes with kde400:39
bashbinthats good00:39
bashbin_2, they also told me they would not affect each other00:39
bashbinthey DID00:39
dwidmanndeamoon: if you want to try kde4 before doing an upgrade, you can add the ppa repo and install kde4 side by side with your kde300:39
bashbinKDE4 programs changed a lot of settings from kde3 and changed its behaviour00:39
deamoonand how can i do it00:40
_2!upgrade | deamoon if you are interested, but i tend to agree that one need not break things just because he can.00:40
ubottudeamoon if you are interested, but i tend to agree that one need not break things just because he can.: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes00:40
_2!kde4 | deamoon for parallel installations00:40
ubottudeamoon for parallel installations: KDE 4.1.3 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. Packages can be found at  http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.1.3 - Support in #kubuntu00:40
deamoonomg its so many info that i need to do it morow day its to late here00:41
dwidmannbashbin: KDE3 was *very* mature, and the going thing for years ... expecting what is at least in part a rewrite to be done quickly is expecting a bit much ... KDE 4.2 will be another step towards feature parity ... I can't wait til January00:42
_2and that infonode used to have help on hardy too, but thet seem to have dropped it.00:42
deamoonok ty for replays guys00:42
deamoonbe back morrow00:43
bashbindwidmann, well,  I do not use a lot of things00:43
deamoonbb for now00:43
bashbinI like "kicker"00:43
bashbinand the ALT+F2 dialogue window00:43
bashbinthere is no K Menu00:43
bashbinno icons00:43
bashbinI mount my devices manually00:43
_2dwidmann hehhe kde3 was mature, and kde4 is childish ?   :)))00:43
bashbinso I would come along with icewm00:43
dwidmann_2: childish how?00:43
_2as opposed to mature00:43
bashbinits just flippy and glubby and .... looks like vista00:44
_2but i'll not "punish" you farther00:44
bashbin_2,  maybe the opposite could just be "new"00:44
bashbinso we should really give it time00:44
bashbinguys I need to work00:44
bashbinsorry but time is passing00:44
bashbinsee you soon, love you all00:44
bashbinbye bye00:44
_2bashbin so it is with all children00:44
bashbin;)00:44
dwidmannbashbin: it still retains most of the old themes, switching that isn't hard.00:45
beta-guyhow do I put KDE back to it's default settings?00:54
JontheEchidnabeta-guy: rm -rf ~/.kde00:55
JontheEchidnawhich will raze your kde settings directory00:55
JontheEchidnanext time you log in it will generate a pristine default config00:55
beta-guythank you00:56
_2beta-guy00:56
ptlunnecessary information: I am studying naked for HP-UX certification, the exam will be 9 hours from now.00:56
_2that works   but you can lose other data with it.00:57
ubuntuis there a simple command line way to stop my desktop loading all white?00:57
twylighthow do I make konqueror my main filemanagerthing, and get rid of dolphin?00:57
_2!d3lphin00:57
ubottuDolphin, or more properly D3lphin, is the new default file manager for Kubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon. If you would like to make Konqueror your default file manager again, go to Konqueror - Settings menu - Configure Konqueror - File Associations and change the association for inode/directory and inode/system_directory to Konqueror at the top rather than Dolphin.00:58
ubuntuI really don't want to have to reformat my partition to fix it00:58
_2!ati > ubuntu00:58
ubottuubuntu, please see my private message00:58
ubuntu_2: I have to install the nvidia prioritary driver but I can't get my wifi working without a working desktop, so I'm stuck?00:59
_2!wifi > ubuntu00:59
ubottuubuntu, please see my private message00:59
_2iwconfig01:00
ubuntualso I can't navigate the desktop at all so I can't get to the wizards those example pages were using01:00
_2ubuntu so read the older docs for the same issues  and use the cli methood01:01
ubuntuaha, will try, sorry am very noob at linux as you may guess01:02
ptlI admire your perseverance.01:02
ptlBut I don't understand why you're having so many issues. 8.10 is bugged indeed, but I thought it was not as much.01:03
_2ptl it's one issue really.   nvidia01:03
ptlnvidia for this ubuntu user and ATI for emma.01:03
* mister-tea says hi to _201:03
ptlbad, bad proprietary drivers.01:04
ptl:[01:04
ptlhappily I use a intel video chip.01:04
ptlopen-source driver01:04
ptleverything works stable in KDE, although I can't get Penumbra Linux to start the first mission.01:05
ptl*Penumbra for Linux01:05
emmaI'm going to go buy an nvidia tomorrow night. I've been told that my computer takes a pci type video device, and that nvidia 9000 series will work nicely on Kubuntu?01:05
_2i.e. propriatery      that's the bottom line.       when a distro like ubuntu tries to emulate M$ windoze by "making it idiot proff"  all you get is a higher calabor of idiots.01:05
ubuntuis installing a new nvidia driver as simple as somthing like apt-get install nvidia?01:06
_2no01:06
ubuntudamn, why does kubuntu do this to me, we used to be freinds01:07
ptlit's not ubuntu01:07
ptlit's the proprietary driver providers.01:07
bjaimeshi comunity01:08
ptldamned are they.01:08
digemma: not sure, but I guess any "new" hardware needs some time to settle.01:08
legodude__the open source nvidia drivers are coming along...01:08
bjaimesi not speak english01:08
legodude__hi bjaimes01:09
ptllegodude__: open source nvidia drivers with 3D acceleration?01:09
legodude__what do you speak?01:09
legodude__ptl: not officially01:09
emmabjaimes: que lengua hablas?01:09
_2<ubuntu> is installing a new nvidia driver as simple as somthing like apt-get install nvidia?  <_2> no ...  generally more like   apt-get install kernel-headers linux-source build-essential # download the nvidia package from their site and run some   bash nvidia-blah.bin   and five commands later you are rebooting to a blank screen, then comming in here from windows and asking how to fix it....    ;/01:09
ubuntuok, I think I am defeated, I will reformat and reinstall to see my desktop :(01:09
legodude__.ve01:09
emmabjaimes: hablas espanol?01:09
legodude__touch one01:09
legodude__tough01:09
ptlubuntu: :(01:09
bjaimessi emma01:09
legodude__ubuntu: what is your problem?01:10
emmabjaimes: cool. ningun problema, hay canales para ti01:10
ubuntu_2: LOL01:10
emma!es | bjaimes01:10
ubottubjaimes: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.01:10
bjaimessoy new en linux01:10
ptl.ve? Venezuela? Cool01:10
ptlpretty girls in Venezuela01:10
bjaimesy tengo un brollon01:10
ptlI've been there once for a month01:10
_2ubuntu   i wish that were just a joke...01:10
ubuntuI will be back and in my installed linux with glorious emaeralded borders and desktops for Africa, you'll see!01:11
ptlubuntu: don't forget to upgrade immediately after installing01:11
bjaimesmi problem es que esta añana apague la pc con ubuntu01:12
bjaimesy cuando la inicio ahora en la noche inicia en kubuntu01:12
ubuntuyeah, I have spent the last week building it up and I was at a very nice place with it.01:12
_2ptl  lol01:12
_2Q "what do linux users do?"01:12
ubuntuThen I removed my LAMP server in tasksel and everything just died and was seemingly gone01:12
ptl!es | bjaimes01:12
ubottubjaimes: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.01:12
_2A "they install software."01:12
ubuntuA reformat01:13
bjaimespero no llega a la pantalla de inicio donde se coloca el usuario01:13
bjaimesbay01:14
Gorgorothhello01:14
Gorgorothwhat is kubuntu 8.10 minimum disk space required ?01:14
_2ubuntu heh   "i reload twice a weak, whether i need to or not."  - intelikey     :)))01:14
Gorgorothlike 8 GB?01:15
_2Gorgoroth desktop install 3g01:15
_2Gorgoroth server install 1g01:15
ubuntu_2: I do alot too, I like trying to see how quick I can re-setup all the little tweaks and install all the apps again etc01:15
Gorgoroththanks01:15
_2ubuntu when you get good at installing, you stop installing.    ;/    i installed this system in 200501:16
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ubuntusee this is what I am missing, the bit where when it all falls apart you can rebuild from command line without having to reinstall the whole shebang again01:17
intelikeybtw that quote is accurate,  and old.01:17
JuJuBeeI just upgraded my home computer to  Intrepid.  I have an nvidia (not sure think 8800).  I am getting a flickr every 2-3 seconds and it is driving me nuts.01:19
intelikeyJuJuBee known issue,  check the wiki on that.01:19
JuJuBeeK01:19
intelikeyshould be all kinds of posts about it.01:19
JuJuBeeWhat is the best search term to use?  Tried nvidia intrepid flicker no results01:23
twylightif i send odd messages01:26
intelikeyrandr01:26
twylighti'm fixing my keyboard01:26
lavacano201014JuJuBee: On the Wiki, try just searching nVidia flicker01:27
intelikeytwylight fi01:27
lavacano201014twylight: Gotcha01:27
twylightm  qqqqqqqqqqqqq01:32
twylightrrrrrrrrrbbbbbbbbaeoitaattt01:33
ptl?01:33
ptllol01:33
ptlfixing your keyboard01:34
twylightmore like cleaning01:34
tacosarecool1hello01:35
tacosarecoolhello01:36
happycyclingIf you want to suspend and you need the swap partition to match your ram size, do you need to account for space used my the file system itself?  I setup the partition as 6144MB for 6GB of ram01:36
twylightthis is retarded01:36
intelikeyhappycycling your kernel has to support that much ram and swap   there may be constraints that prevent using suspend to disk with that much ram...  idk.01:37
tacosarecoolI wish I could use desktop effects but it lags01:38
tacosarecool:-(01:39
happycyclingI installed the 64-bit version of kubuntu01:39
happycyclingany way to verify for sure if I did?01:39
twylightif it's working01:40
legodude__uname -a01:40
legodude__will tell you if your kernel is 64bit01:40
legodude__and if you have a lib64 directory01:41
legodude__good signs01:41
happycyclingsays x86_6401:41
legodude__the really cool kids run x86_25601:42
happycycling6GB swap seems massive for the ability just to suspend01:44
legodude__?01:44
happycyclingyour swap partition has to match the size of you RAM right?01:44
happycyclingto suspsend/hibernate?01:45
legodude__shouldn't01:45
happycyclinger suspend*01:45
legodude__on windows it doesn't01:45
happycyclingthat's what people in last night in #ubuntu were saying01:45
legodude__that doesn't make intuitive sense to me01:45
legodude__but I could easily be mistaken01:45
twylight   hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh01:46
intelikeyhappycycling you have to have enough space to write all used ram into swap     yes.01:47
jimmy51_homein 32-bit windows, there's a 4GB limit on RAM utilization due to 32-bit memory address limits.  does the same limitation exist in 32 bit kubuntu?01:47
legodude__intelikey: are you sure about that?01:47
ptllegodude__: I second intelikey01:48
legodude__jimmy51_home: kinda, look at pae01:48
legodude__I could be wrong, but do you have references?01:48
intelikeyjimmy51_home older kernels yes.   i think there is a "big mem" kernel though01:48
happycyclingwell I'm using 64-bit01:48
happycyclingso it sees all of my ram01:48
legodude__if what you two are saying is correct01:49
twylightI hate when hardware doesn't work right01:49
legodude__you need a swap size equal to size of ram + size of swap you want to have01:49
legodude__it seems to me01:49
legodude__also, shouldn't we be saying hibernate?01:50
legodude__and not suspend01:50
intelikeylegodude no    you only need swap = ram+   if you want to suspend while deep into swap01:50
ptltwo different things01:50
legodude__intelikey: that's what I mean, if swap size = memory size then you have no effective swap, no?01:50
intelikeyno01:51
legodude__I'm totally confused then01:51
twylight    eeeeeeeeeeeeeee01:51
legodude__is there a good explanation of this somewhere?01:51
jimmy51_homethanks legodude__01:51
DarkTananyone here use tightVNC?01:51
intelikeyyou are not using the swap for suspend while running,  and when not running  nothing is going to write to swap   or ram for that matter01:51
jimmy51_homeand intelikey01:51
happycyclingyou need a cushion right? For a fudge factor, I tried (6GB) exactly and I'm off due to formating the partition to swap01:51
intelikeyjimmy51_home welcome.01:52
legodude__intelikey: but stuff will be written to swap when you wnat to enter suspend01:52
legodude__you have 2gb ram, 2gb swap01:52
legodude__you have allocated 3gb01:52
legodude__you have 1gb free swap01:52
legodude__what happens?01:52
intelikeyhappycycling prolly not.   unless you are deep into swap you can swapoff -a   at any time and even though you may have been using a little swap   none is actually needed, it will all fit in ram.01:53
happycyclingso should I resize my partitions?  I don't want to reinstall01:53
intelikeylegodude       ^   that.  the kernel will do it's job.01:53
intelikeyhappycycling no.01:54
legodude__meaning...?01:54
totohola alguien que hable español01:54
intelikey!es01:54
ubottuEn la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.01:54
happycyclingSo don't do anything and don't suspend or hibernate?01:55
Sokal-ECis there any program I can use on kubuntu to open MS publisher files?01:55
DarkTananybody know a different remote access app i can use over the internet?01:55
intelikeyhappycycling heh. well that would probably be best.  but that's not what i said.    i.e. don't change your partitions   but as to whether you suspend or not is up to you.01:55
happycyclingso if I do, my machine crashes?01:56
twylight                        01:56
twylight                               01:56
twylightdamn01:56
totoespañol01:57
intelikeyhappycycling ?01:57
happycyclingsuspend or hibernate01:57
happycyclingwill my machine crash?01:57
intelikeyi'm not psychic01:57
* legodude__ thinks suspend to disk needs swap = 2x ram size01:57
intelikeylegodude no.01:57
legodude__why not?01:57
intelikeywhy would it ?01:57
legodude__well01:58
legodude__sorry01:58
intelikeyyou explain why you think it would01:58
legodude__at least size of physical ram01:58
twylight                       m01:58
legodude__I tried to before01:58
twylightDAMN01:58
legodude__2gb ram, 2gb swap, 3gb allocated ram01:58
totoalguien que hable español01:58
happycyclingI matched my ram size exactly when I partitioned, but not sure if suspend/hibernate will work.  I think space was lost due to formatting the partition with swap01:58
intelikey<legodude__> at least size of physical ram <<< correct   ram needs to fit into the aloted disk space.  that's all.01:58
Sokal-ECMS Publisher files?01:59
legodude__intelikey: that's what I said before and you corrected me01:59
Sokal-ECanyone know01:59
legodude__physical ram + desired swap size01:59
intelikey?01:59
legodude__and then make sure you are allocating less "desired swap size"01:59
intelikeylegodude there you go with fitting swap into swap again,  it doesn't work that way.02:00
legodude__intelikey: let me try example02:00
legodude__I have 2gb ram02:00
totoplease alguien que hable español02:01
legodude__I want a "1gb swap size"02:01
legodude__if I never wanted to suspend to disk02:01
legodude__I would set my swap at 1gb02:01
happycyclingyea02:01
legodude__and be done with it02:01
intelikeyswap will be cached back into ram and swap disabled before the disk write process for suspend starts.02:01
legodude__if I wante dto swap to disk02:01
legodude__I would set swap at 3gb02:01
happycyclingas a factor of safety yes02:01
happycyclingyou could do 2GB +200MB just to be safe02:01
legodude__intelikey: is this example correct?02:02
courtjesterghttp://plugindoc.mozdev.org/linux.html02:02
intelikeyi.e.  swap has to be large enough to hold your ram.       and i'm finished.02:02
courtjestergwonder if any of these work for konqueror02:02
legodude__you're wrong, but I'll stop too02:02
twylight                        02:03
twylightfuck it02:03
happycyclinghow close can you make swap to ram size?  There's actual space lost with 'swap' formatting?02:03
intelikeyhappycycling very close.02:03
happycyclingI did mine down to 1MB, probably not enough02:03
happycycling6144MB for 6GB of ram02:04
intelikeyshould work fine02:04
twylightjjjjjjjjjjjjj02:04
happycyclingcool02:04
happycyclingthanks for your help02:04
intelikeywelcome02:04
twylight       02:04
happycyclingwhat is a good reading resource for learning about kubuntu?  The help ubuntu site?02:05
intelikeytwylight what's the problem?   trying to setup a 136 key keyboard ?02:05
happycyclingI'm trying to learn more about the software and system02:05
intelikey!help | happycycling02:05
ubottuhappycycling: Hi! I'm #kubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://tinyurl.com/5zfb6t - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots02:05
twylighttrying to get the gunk out from underneath an acer 290 spacebar02:05
happycyclinguber02:05
twylightit sticks and the space function doesn't work right02:05
intelikeyhappycycling wait   they changed that02:05
twylightbut I've got it fixed I think02:05
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intelikey!contribute | happycycling02:06
ubottuhappycycling: To contribute and help out with Ubuntu, see http://www.ubuntu.com/community/participate02:06
* Sokal-EC-{Surfin is away: Gone away for now02:06
totospanish please02:06
twylighttesting02:06
intelikeythat.02:06
twylightq w e r t y02:06
twylightit works02:06
intelikey!es | toto02:06
ubottutoto: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.02:06
twylightmagnifying glass and tweezers, windex, paper clips and a lot of cursing, but it's working02:06
happycyclingDo you use knoqeror by any chance?  I have weird issues with flash sites.  My router has a flash bandwidth meter (DD-WRT) and it comes in microscopic02:06
twylightkonqueror is a bad web browser02:07
happycyclingokay02:07
happycyclingI use firefox, but this new KDE experience, I'm going all out02:07
intelikeyi actually prefer konqueror  when using a gui.  but i don't do that very often02:08
BluesKajkonq is ok if you configure it right, but getting it right is a chore02:08
unclemikefor 8.10 is there a kde 3.5.9 or 3.5.1002:08
twylightgetting amarok to play mp3's on 6.anything is a chore02:09
intelikeyi have a 136 key  keyboard  but have never set it up correctly twylight,  that's why i asked02:09
happycyclingyea, amarok is causing me a headache with digital 'pops' between songs02:09
happycyclingis there a good gapless player you suggest?02:09
twylightVLC02:10
twylightI suggest VLC for everything02:10
legodude__what's the obsession with gapless?02:10
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twylightincluding wiping your ass02:10
legodude__I've never quite understood it?02:10
intelikeyBluesKaj :)    "default is only the first step on the long road to right"  - me02:10
dohdeedohHello everyone02:10
legodude__hi dohdeedoh02:11
intelikeytwylight language.02:11
happycyclingI'm obsessed with gapless because 90% of my collection is DJ related mixes02:11
legodude__ahhh02:11
legodude__gotcha02:11
legodude__forgot about that02:11
happycyclingso it's a serious mood killer ;-)02:11
legodude__yeah yeah02:11
twylightmy repositories are busted again02:11
dohdeedohI am trying to rip a CD to MP3 with Dolphin like I did with Konquerer and it seems not to show the mp3 option02:11
twylighthow do I fix that?02:11
dohdeedohlegodude_, hello02:12
intelikeydohdeedoh can you not use a free format ?02:12
dohdeedohintelikey, nope, i want them in flac and mp302:12
twylight!repositories02:12
ubottuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories02:12
intelikeytwylight  sudo apt-get update     # pastebin errors02:13
dohdeedohmy car has mp3 cd and I create cds for it02:13
twylightthanks02:13
unclemikedoes kubuntu 8.10 have kde 3.5.9 or 3.5.1002:13
tacosarecoolOk I'm sick of the lag02:13
happycycling4.102:13
happycyclingKDE that is02:13
tacosarecoolTell me how I properly get the graphics drivers02:13
tacosarecoolFlgrx02:13
tacosarecoolIs laggy02:13
intelikey!mp3 | dohdeedoh02:13
ubottudohdeedoh: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats02:13
tacosarecoolRight now02:13
tacosarecool!ati x30002:13
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about ati x30002:13
tacosarecool!ati02:14
ubottuFor Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto02:14
unclemikehappycycling, so you saying for people that dont care dor kde 4.x.x tet is out of luck02:14
dohdeedohhow do I add LAME so that Konquerer and Dolphin see it when I try to rip to mp3?02:15
dohdeedohintelikey, I know about that already, if I wanted to talk to RMS I would02:16
intelikeyunclemike you could always remove all the qt/kde stuff and install the older version stuff from an older repo     not sure what all you will break in the process tho02:16
intelikeydohdeedoh maybe you are.02:16
unclemikeintelikey, thats one thing i liked about mandriva..the newset version that just came out....mandriva 2009...has kde 3.3.10 and 4.1.202:17
unclemikeopps 3.5.1002:17
dohdeedohintelikey, well you are one cool dude and I admire you then. =P  But tell me now how to add MP3 support to Konquerer02:18
dohdeedohxD02:18
dohdeedohI already added lame02:18
intelikeykonq has mp3 support     what did i miss ?02:19
dohdeedohIt doesnt show02:19
dohdeedohI see wav, flac and ogg02:19
intelikeyyou aren't in d3lphen are you ?02:19
twylightthanks for the fix02:19
dohdeedohI already did my flac copy02:19
twylightthat worked great02:19
legodude__dohdeedoh: as an aside, why not do flac->mp302:20
intelikeytwylight welcome02:20
legodude__faster than ripping the cd again02:20
dohdeedohnever though of that... do I lose any quality?02:20
legodude__no02:20
legodude__of course not02:20
legodude__flac is lossless02:20
intelikeyogg can be02:21
dohdeedohhow do i set quality?02:21
legodude__?02:22
dohdeedohholy lagggyyyyy02:22
intelikeyfor the mp3 dohdeedoh ?02:22
dohdeedohjesh02:22
legodude__when converting from flac?02:22
dohdeedohgenerally02:23
dohdeedohthere seems to be nowhere to set any of that02:23
dohdeedohalmost as lame as sound juicer02:23
legodude__ah, dunno, I only use lame from commandline usually02:23
dohdeedohis that like 1000 command switches?02:24
legodude__2313 actually02:24
legodude__takes a while to type02:24
dohdeedohlike a week or so02:24
dohdeedohxD02:24
dohdeedohok02:25
dohdeedohanyone know how to add LAME support to Konquerer to rip mp3's?02:25
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* Sokal-EC is back.02:27
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legodude__ah _2, the kinder gentler intelikey02:28
_2no. just compiled!02:30
xp-killeri conected my tv for sound to my pc but no sound coming out?02:30
draikIs there a way to see a listing of the man pages? I mean in a point-and-click or PDF.02:30
* legodude__ hates man pages02:32
INeedHelpCan someone please help me installing 2 devices into 8.10 i got both to be detected but hitting a stale point02:32
legodude__xp-killer: can you provide any more info?02:32
legodude__INeedHelp: which devices02:32
INeedHelpWinTV USB2 & Microsoft Wireless Xbox360 Headset02:32
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legodude__INeedHelp: how do you know the WinTV USB2 is not installed?02:33
_2draik kde   help02:33
stwestonI'm having trouble connecting to my Wireless network.02:34
INeedHelpit is installed but get this error: WinTC Initialization Error. hTV=0, i read somehwere to use MythTV as a addon component but im stuck02:34
INeedHelpWinTV init...02:34
_2draik   alt+f2   kinfocenter02:34
stwestonMy wireless connection's password is always reverting back to Hexadecimal whenever I select ASCII and try to connect.02:35
tacosarecool!ati02:36
ubottuFor Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto02:36
stweston!wireless02:36
ubottuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs02:36
karanwhen u download a package using adept manager where does the unextracted package get saved02:36
draik_2: kinfocenter didn't want to be run by krunner. It just sits there.02:36
xp-killerlegodude__: ok u know i have my speakers plug in to my pc for sound,now i wanted to plug my tv sound in the pc so i can controle the sound from my tv on my pc.i plug the tv in the back of the pc in the bleur color jack now my speakers are in the grenn that is for output but no sound coming out from wa i sopose to be hearing on the tv02:36
legodude__xp-killer: have you tried playing aroudn with alsamixer?02:38
xp-killerlegodude__: kmix02:39
_2draik oh my02:39
Sokal-ECcan anyone lead me in the right direction02:39
Sokal-ECi need a program that will open microsoft publisher files02:39
_2draik    there is a package    xman    that will also allow pointy clicky manpages02:40
karanwhen u download a package using adept manager where does the unextracted package get saved02:40
legodude__Sokal-EC:  have you tried scribus?02:40
Sokal-ECno i didnt02:40
xp-killerlegodude__: i play with my kmix but i dont know wat belong to wat since the names are weird,i understand on xp easyer02:40
Sokal-ECthnx i will02:40
legodude__Sokal-EC: I don't htink it will work02:41
_2draik but the kmenu  help  should let you browse them.    also konq had an   man://   kio slave i think02:41
legodude__I've never heard of anything else opening publisher files02:41
legodude__but it is worth a try02:41
Sokal-ECdoes anyone in here design web sites?02:43
stwestonI kinda do...02:43
stwestonwhy?02:43
_210011010_2 10011101_2 10011010_202:44
stwestonSokal-EC: ^02:44
umanAnyone know how i can mount a UDF 13346 iso in ubntu 8.10 (in command line or any other way)? Thanks, i can mount iso9660...02:44
Sokal-ECi mean professionally02:44
Sokal-ECi need help bidding a job02:44
stwestonoh... no.02:44
stwestonthat's a bit off-topic for here, though.02:44
_2uman mount -o loop -t udf filename /mount/point/you/want/it/mounted/on/02:45
karanwhen u download a package using adept manager where does the unextracted package get saved02:45
stwestonanyone know if there's a problem with ASCII-encoded WEP Passwords?02:45
_2karan /var/cache/apt/archives02:46
stwestonon Kubuntu, I mena.02:46
stwestonmean*02:46
uman_2 , thanks, worked like a charm, i tried typing the same thing but with iso13346 instead of udf and got an error02:46
binMonkeyhey, guys.02:46
xp-killeri conected my tv for sound to my pc but no sound coming out?02:46
_2uman it shouldn't even need the -t option02:46
Sokal-ECok another kubuntu thingy02:46
Sokal-ECwhy does kaffeine not play url's02:46
uman_2, oh, ok;)02:47
Sokal-ECit always says downloading codecs and then error it already has them02:47
umanAnyone know if you can install dot net in wine somenow? ive tried but have gotten errors . thanks02:47
_2cause url's are not something that can be "played" ?02:47
DoubleD84Has anyone ever had a ext3 partition just stop listing any files located on it. I'm using 8.1002:47
_2!dotnet02:47
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about dotnet02:47
Sokal-ECok more specifically listen.pls tracks02:47
xp-killerlegodude__: I FIND IT I HAD TO LIGHT UP MANY LIGHT :/02:48
Sokal-ECwith live feeds02:48
_2hmmm i thought there was an infonode02:48
stwestonpls files are proprietary, mehtinks02:48
legodude__xp-killer: good, I think02:48
naught101neither gimp nor krita work in kubuntu 8.10?02:48
Sokal-ECohhhh02:48
Sokal-ECdang02:48
stwestonI THINK...02:48
umanubottu, you failed me!!! why!?02:48
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)02:48
_2!mp3 | Sokal-EC02:48
ubottuSokal-EC: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats02:48
DoubleD84naught101: Gimp works fine for me in 8.1002:49
naught101gimp: symbol lookup error: gimp: undefined symbol: babl_get_version02:49
krishnahow do I shrink a penel in intrepid?02:49
naught101damn02:49
krishnas/penel/panel02:49
stwestonanyone know if there's a problem with Kubuntu's ASCII-encoded WEP Password support?02:49
_2lol  penel panel   :)02:50
legodude__naught101: sudo ldconfig ?02:50
_2stweston shouldn't be.   but i can't say for sure02:50
stweston_2: okay.02:50
krishnahow do I autohide a panel too? I used to have trigger points in the corners of my screen that woulld bring a panels to the top02:51
_2!wep | stweston02:51
ubottustweston: WEP is totally insecure, don't use it, the full Wireless Documentation for Ubuntu can be found at:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs02:51
legodude__naught101: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=93642802:51
stweston...02:51
stwestonthat's odd.02:51
_2krishna right click configure   select autohide02:51
stwestonwell, then... I'd better let my network techies know that.02:51
mhd720though a longer key is better, i believe02:52
_2stweston i didn't write the infonode,  i just post them.02:52
stweston_2: okay. good point.02:52
legodude__WEP is garbage02:52
legodude__doesn't provide any security02:52
stwestonwell, I can't deny the fact that we /have/ a WEP pass.02:52
krishna_2: I don't have a "configure". I just see "panel settings"02:52
_2krishna oh kde4   idk.02:53
krishnawhich doesn't seem to have any such option02:53
_2krishna kde4 is lacking in many ways02:53
stwestonwell, thanks for the tip.02:53
naught101thanks lego dude, I had manually install bably and gegl02:54
krishna_is it possible to go back to kde3 in intrepid ibex?02:54
tacosarecoolhello02:55
krishnathis is pretty frustrating. the extreme configurability was the whole reason I favored kde..02:55
naught101krishna: search google for kubuntu intrepid kde302:55
naught101I agree02:55
_2krishna possable    yes. this is linux.    howto,,,  that is a different can of worms02:55
krishnaI was hoping it would be a simple apt-get from the default repositories :)02:56
_2krishna if you find an easy way tell us and i'll pass it on to the bot02:56
tacosarecooldo kate /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc02:57
tacosarecoolin telnet maybe02:57
tacosarecoolThen [Xdmcp] Enable=true ?02:57
_2heh02:57
tacosarecoolhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=611574602:58
happycyclingWhich search function do I use to locate files in ubuntu?03:00
tacosarecoolctrl f?03:00
happycyclingI mean locate a path to the actual program03:00
legodude__which?03:01
happycyclingktorrent03:01
legodude__yeah03:01
legodude__which03:01
happycyclinghow do I find where it's located in / file system? /sbin? /bin etc?03:01
happycyclingwhich what?03:01
legodude__which03:01
legodude__legodude@hivebrainii:/usr/share/man/man5$ which ktorrent03:01
legodude__/usr/bin/ktorrent03:01
happycyclingthanks03:01
happycyclingthe /usr/bin/ktorrent03:02
legodude__which03:02
legodude__that's what I'm telling you03:02
legodude__which commandname03:02
happycyclingoh haha03:02
legodude__really handy03:02
happycyclingI thought it was a question03:02
happycyclingsorry man03:02
Nick-xxhi all wanted to ask if i have a adsl2+ modem/router in bridge mode after connecting to a only wireless router using to authenticate does it still receive the adsl2+ speed, a little stupid but thoug...03:04
legodude__?03:04
legodude__are you asking if the wireless with slow your asdl connection?03:05
tacosarecoolI wanna get open source drivers03:05
walzmynI've got a major problem - when i login I get nothing but colored bars and flashing letters. I have reinstalled the OS and get the same problem. fsck gives nothing and unmounting /home does nothing.03:05
legodude__er03:05
Nick-xxyes legodude03:05
tacosarecoolFlgrx are too laggy03:05
tacosarecoolUnder x30003:05
legodude__will be the bottleneck?03:05
legodude__Nick-xx: probably shouldn't03:05
naught101there's a bash quote...03:05
legodude__if you are on a very weak connection with a very fast asdl it will03:05
_2legodude__ & happycycling   type ktorrent    if you want to know about things like   echo and printf  for example.03:06
legodude__ah03:06
legodude__that's nice too03:06
_2seperates the men from the builtins03:06
_2type type03:07
_2type is a shell builtin03:07
_2type which03:07
_2which is hashed (/bin/which)03:07
legodude__yeah03:08
legodude__what does hashed mean in this context?03:08
_2it's a script03:08
legodude__ah03:08
_2file /bin/which03:08
legodude__ooh, handles aliases nicely too03:08
_2 /bin/which: Bourne shell script text executable03:08
legodude__file is magic03:09
_2type file03:09
legodude__not mine03:09
_2:)03:09
legodude__POSIX standards here baby03:09
legodude__ /bin/which: POSIX shell script text executable03:09
_2legodude well  i ranted about it enough that someone did something      NICE !03:10
legodude__haha03:10
walzmynAny takers on my login problems?03:11
joe-codermy zd8000 has poor sound quality, everything sounds like it's being played through a telephone, and i've had this trouble with every linux i've tried.03:11
joe-codersorry, hp zd8000 laptop03:11
joe-codersound is great on windows.03:11
_2really i griped about so many "bash" scripts in the ubuntu distro   that claim to be "shell" scripts but aren't    that someone toke notice03:11
joe-coderdoes anyone know where i could look to find info on this, what i could google, settings to check, etc?03:11
legodude__joe-coder: #alsa?03:11
tacosarecoolAnyone know how to run x300 on kubuntu without it lagging03:12
joe-coderi'm using alsa, yes03:12
joe-coderis there a way to switch, is that recommended?03:12
tacosarecoolIf you install the driver of course03:12
legodude__joe-coder: I mean, check the channel #alsa03:12
_2!ati > walzmyn03:12
ubottuwalzmyn, please see my private message03:12
joe-coderah, ok03:12
joe-coderthanks03:12
_2walzmyn prolly that    ^03:12
* legodude__ hates udev03:12
* _2 doesn't use udev03:13
legodude__ugh03:13
legodude__time to go study03:13
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happycyclingany gapless players you guys recommend?  VLC skips03:15
walzmyn_2 sorry, i'm having trouble useing this thing in windows. I don't think my problem is the driver03:15
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tacosarecoolOk I've got a problem03:15
walzmyn_2 everytime i've installed before the standard open driver would work at least to get in, this is totally fooking up the system and making me hold down power to restart03:15
tacosarecoolThe default driver works but it's way slower for games03:16
Guest75981cesar03:16
tacosarecoolBut then flgrx03:16
tacosarecoolIs laggy03:16
Guest75981pailas me meti a un chat03:16
_2walzmyn is it locking the kernel or does it still respond to sysRQ hot keys ?03:16
walzmyn_2 i'm not sure03:17
walzmyn_2 everything works fine - graphical login - until I actualy try to log in03:17
walzmyn_2 This began after I used windows to write to my /home partition (long, long story)03:17
_2walzmyn o.O03:18
walzmyn_2 but telling fstab to not mount the /home partition dosen't make the problem go away and i've reinstalled / twice (with format)03:18
JediatNightthere are lot of bots here :/03:18
jimmy51_homewhat ver of kubuntu should i install on an ATOM 330 board?03:19
jimmy51_home(intel's embedded dual core Atom CPU)03:19
_2walzmyn so boot the system,   at the login screen   press  alt+ctrl+f1    login there,    run sudo passwd root    set the root password,     and then run   useradd some_name_here       to add a user.      then press  alt+f7    login to the new user account you just made      if that all works ok then come in here and we'll fix the rest.03:20
* walzmyn starts writing really fast03:21
_2heh  copy paste print03:21
walzmynprint to what?03:22
_2what are computers for....03:22
umanis there a good way to manage songs on an ipod touch 2nd gen in ubuntu intrepid ibex..? my brother has an ipod nano and amrok, sonbird and another program which i dont remember dont workt that well03:22
_2walzmyn no printer ?03:22
_2JediatNight not vary many.   six is all i count.03:23
walzmyn_2 have to unplug, drag the laptop up stairs.... :(03:23
_2k03:23
_2jimmy51_home version ?   prolly 8.4   my openion.03:24
* walzmyn waves03:24
_2!ipod | uman not sure this applies03:24
ubottuuman not sure this applies: For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto - See !RockBox for information on liberating your iPod03:24
jimmy51_home_2: i was wondering on x86 vs amd64 or whatever03:25
jimmy51_homeit's got a 4 GB ram max though.03:25
_2jimmy51_home it's still really just preferance tho03:25
_2what suits you,  suits you best.03:26
jimmy51_home_2: would i see better performance out of the 64-bit ver, even with only 1 or 2 gb of ram?03:26
_2"see"  not with the naked eye03:26
_2"get"  yes03:26
_2pico is better than emacs03:27
* _2 starts an editor war03:27
_2!freedom03:28
ubottufreedom is important. Ubuntu is as free as we can make it, which means mostly free software. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/licensing03:28
_2!linux03:28
ubottuLinux is the kernel (core) of the Ubuntu operating system. Many operating systems use Linux as kernel. For more information on Linux in general, visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux03:28
ptl!vim03:28
ubottuText Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), mousepad (Xfce4) - Terminal-based: nano, vi/vim, emacs - For HTML/CSS editors, see !html - For programming editors and IDE, see !code03:28
ptlkate is pretty but vim is more powerful03:28
_2ptl joins the editor wat03:28
_2war03:28
ptlemacs... I can't say03:28
ptlno03:28
ptlI join the editor Woodstock Party.03:29
* _2 switches sides and accuses ptl of actually starting the editor war03:29
ptlI don't force my own editor upon others...03:29
ptlWhich side are you?03:29
_2the other one03:29
_2:)03:29
ptl!code03:29
ubottuProgramming editors/suites: Terminal-based: vi/vim, emacs - KDE: Kate, KDevelop, Quanta+, Umbrello - GNOME: gvim, gedit, anjuta, eclipse, netbeans, pida03:29
ptl!html03:29
ubottuhtml is HyperText Markup Language, used to build web pages. WYSIWYG editors: KompoZer (was Nvu), Iceape Composer, Amaya - Development environments: Bluefish, Quanta+, Screem - For a howto on HTML coding, see: http://www.w3schools.com/03:29
ptl!scite03:31
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about scite03:31
ptl!info scite03:31
ubottuscite (source: scite): Lightweight GTK-based Programming Editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.76-1 (intrepid), package size 856 kB, installed size 2152 kB03:31
_2!info joe03:32
ubottujoe (source: joe): user friendly full screen text editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.5-2 (intrepid), package size 367 kB, installed size 1168 kB03:32
ptl!info jedit03:32
ubottujedit (source: jedit): a cross platform programmer's text editor written in Java. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.3~pre13.dfsg-0ubuntu3 (intrepid), package size 3240 kB, installed size 27660 kB03:32
ptllol03:32
_2mc -e03:32
ptltoo many options03:32
_2:)03:32
jimmy51_homei use scite03:32
jimmy51_homeand wscite03:32
ptlwscite?03:32
jimmy51_homesame editor on linux and windows03:32
ptlwhat's wscite? Windows-Scite?03:32
ptlOh.03:33
jimmy51_homekeeps me sane03:33
binMonkeycan you guys recommend a friendly programming channel?03:33
jimmy51_homebinMonkey: you're better off going language specific03:33
* _2 jsut writes scripts with "echo" and uses "sed" for editing03:33
twylightbye03:33
jimmy51_homebinMonkey: like #java or #csharp or whatever03:33
* ptl writes scripts with an hexadecimal editor03:33
binMonkeyjimmy51_home: ok.  thanks.03:33
jimmy51_homebe prepared to be humbled though03:34
_2that actually works you know....     isn't the easiest way to get there tho03:34
* binMonkey doubts ptl's sanity.03:34
jimmy51_homeusually people have to let you know how smart they are (by telling you how dumb you are) before they will help you :)03:34
* ptl asks binMonkey not to doubt it - he's insane and proud.03:34
walzmyn_2 no love03:35
_2walzmyn ok   tell me what exactly happened03:35
binMonkeyi knew it!03:35
walzmyn_2 I created the new user account and logged in via graphical login.03:35
jimmy51_homegreat.  i just installed 8.10 over a working win xp install on my new Atom 330 board.... and now i get a black screen.  awesome.03:36
_2yes and  ?03:36
walzmyn_2 i got an error that it could not start "kdeconfig" i think it was03:36
walzmyn_2 when I clicked on OK i got hte same colored bars and flashing letters03:36
ptljimmy51_home: what you use scite for?03:36
jimmy51_homeptl: text editor03:36
ptl*do03:36
binMonkeyummmm.  konversation won't let me log onto another irc server while i'm on this one.  is that normal?03:36
jimmy51_homescripts, xml, etc03:36
_2walzmyn disk full ?03:37
ptljimmy51_home: mail too?03:37
walzmyn_2 should it have created a /home/user?03:37
jimmy51_homemail?03:37
_2walzmyn yeah03:37
binMonkey!scite03:37
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about scite03:37
ptlwhy not? I use vim for mail03:37
walzmyn_2 the /home partition is just about full, but / has half the partition left03:37
walzmyn_2 It did not create a new directory in /home03:38
jimmy51_homewhy would i?  that'd be goofy03:38
ptlWould it?03:38
jimmy51_homeyes03:38
walzmyn_2 I can see /home from here in windows03:38
=== home_ is now known as boobuntu
jimmy51_homethat's like my wife using a torque wrench as a hammer03:38
ptllol03:38
cuzntmine does that too03:39
jimmy51_homea torque wrench is a useful tool, but there are better tools for hammering03:39
binMonkeywalzmyn: can u see russia?  aaaaaahahahahahahaha!03:39
jimmy51_homemy gosh, why do they do that?03:39
ptlwell, I think it depends on what kind of mail you receive. I have no problems using vim for that.03:39
jimmy51_homefirst large metallic object they find in the garage = hammer!03:39
cuzntmeasurment envy03:39
* walzmyn dosen't get binMonkey's joke03:39
_2walzmyn just a sec.   ok i said use useradd  which without the -m wont make the new dir..    should have said use   adduser   sorry my bad.03:39
jimmy51_homeptl: we only send magic-eye encoded jpg's... no text :)03:39
boobuntucan someone pls help me resolve this issue with my nvidia , i am using the right driver, but when change the xconf file. it killed my resolutions for a 24" monitor03:39
jimmy51_homeboobuntu: what ver of kubuntu?03:40
DoubleD84I'm having issues with a partition. It doesn't seem to be mounting properly. I can mount it without error but none of the files are listed anymore. Does anyone have any ideas? I'm running 8.10, ext3 partition03:40
binMonkeywalzmyn: sorry.  when you said i can see /home it reminded me of sarah palin seeing russia from home.  i'm a little drunk.03:40
_2walzmyn so the command i gave will not by default make the user's home dir.03:40
boobuntuim using 8.1003:40
jimmy51_home( in 8.10 you shouldn't have to configure xorg.conf at all, i don't think )03:40
ptljimmy51_home: mind you, I use mutt + vim on my lab, I don't need fancy graphics. On the other hand, I also use gmail.03:40
jimmy51_homeis there a problem with what it autoconfigures?03:40
walzmyn_2 ok, I was just wondering if something ELSE was fookered03:41
boobuntu:) well i edited it to twin view as instructed on ubuntu help site.. and bam lost my 1900 reZ03:41
walzmyn_2 I don't understand why i'm still haveing this problem when i've reinstalled the OS twice03:42
boobuntuwith what? walz03:42
_2walzmyn but.    if you will go and make one more account using    useradd -md /usr/new_home some_name       and test it.  that will prove if it's the home fs or not.03:42
jimmy51_homeboobuntu: ah.  that stinks.  i can only afford one monitor, so i've never messed with dual03:42
boobuntucan u just tell me how to manuall configure to fix reZ even for 103:42
boobuntuthis is piercing my brain at this reZ03:43
walzmynboobuntu with the same disk i installed the thing with the first time03:43
jimmy51_homeboobuntu: i think it's something like "dpkg -reconfigure xserver-xorg"03:43
jimmy51_homecan someone smarter confirm that?03:43
_2walzmyn note; reinstalling the system without formating /home will never change anything in /home03:43
walzmyn_2 would having fstab not mount /home not prove the problem is not in home?03:43
_2no03:43
walzmynthat was a lot of 'not's in one sentance03:43
_2walzmyn having /home not mount will absolutely cause errors logging in as anyone that lives in /home03:44
walzmynWould I be better off backing up /home and just formatting everydamn thing?03:44
_2walzmyn lets try this new user with a home in /usr   just to make sure03:45
walzmynand then of course, removing the driver that lets this crappy OS touch my linux partitions03:45
jimmy51_homeboobuntu: well, i guess i'm the smartest here :)  i think that's the command to reconfigure xserver and you can get it back to defaults03:45
walzmynok03:45
_2walzmyn but.    if you will go and make one more account using  >>>  useradd -md /usr/new_home some_name   <<<    and test it.  that will prove if it's the home fs or not.03:45
_2walzmyn be sure to sudo things or login as root03:46
walzmynright03:46
* walzmyn waves03:46
jimmy51_homei'm going to go clean my caseless atom system parts off of my wife's desk before she comes in here with an air ratchet and smashes them03:46
_2you can't create users or their home dirs with root03:46
DarkTanare there any good programs that work with skype?03:47
_2!skype03:47
ubottuTo install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto03:47
ptljimmy51_home: dexconf03:49
_2jimmy51_home air ratchets are not very good for that.  tell her to use a monkey rench03:49
DoubleD84can someone explain to me what the <dump> and <pass> are used for in fstab?03:49
DarkTanthx, gonna try that03:49
_2DoubleD84 man mount   or man fstab   can03:49
sjdurfeyanyone know of a dreamweaver like app for linux?03:50
_2DoubleD84 not only commands but even some configs have man pages03:50
ptlDoubleD84: did you read fstab's manpage?03:50
_2!dreamweaver03:50
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about dreamweaver03:50
ptlDoubleD84: dump is an old standard unix utility, not used today03:50
ptlDoubleD84: used for backups... but in practice, this field is never used.03:51
DoubleD84I'm just trying to recover a partion that seems to have lost all it's files and I don't know why. I'm a fairly novice user (1 week on 8.10)03:51
DoubleD84it mounts without an error but nothing is listed03:51
_2testdisk03:51
ptlDoubleD84: the sixth field is kind of deprecated too, but as a rule of thumb: 1 for the root filesystem, 2 or 0 for the others03:51
_2!info testdisk | DoubleD8403:52
ubottudoubled84: testdisk (source: testdisk): Partition scanner and disk recovery tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 6.9-1.1 (intrepid), package size 1196 kB, installed size 3768 kB03:52
bucketheadAnybody mind helping me installing a plasmoid on Hardy? The cmake command is failing.03:52
DoubleD84I was reading a post on the forums and it talked about fsck. I just fired it up in konsole and it spat out a warning that there was a bad format on line 19. It's not related to the partition in question but would it have anything to do with it?03:53
DoubleD84should I just post the line?03:53
_2yeah03:54
DoubleD84does fsck start lines counting at 0 or 1?03:54
_2not sure   post both03:54
DoubleD84: /dev/sdb1   /home/dan/BackUp ntfs-3g relatime0 203:55
DoubleD84there are tabs in there I just removed them for viewing purposes03:55
_2relatime and ntfs-3g   are probably not compatable.03:56
DoubleD84that partition mounts fine though. Should I just give it a shot without relatime?03:56
_2i would replace relatime with defaults03:56
DoubleD84: /dev/sdc1/home/dan/VirtualBox  ext3  relatime  0  2  <-- that's the partition in question.. Mounts fine but no files03:56
_2defaults is safe for all lines03:57
walzmynhow the crap does anybody use Kopete?03:57
walzmyn_2 That solved it03:57
_2walzmyn you in there now ?03:57
DoubleD84walzmyn: I lasted less than a day03:57
walzmynSo, what do we think winders DID to my /home partition to screw all this up?03:57
JediatNighti use kopete03:57
_2walzmyn in the new account you just made  ?03:57
walzmynYes, i'm in linux, thank God03:57
walzmynyes03:57
bucketheadwalzmyn: I use it everyday. The history annoys me but everything else seems to work?03:58
_2walzmyn ok open a terminal and    su -03:58
_2use the root password03:58
DoubleD84I've tried pretty anything that's available with a GUI.. Stuck with aMSN03:58
walzmynI've been stuck trying to use it for a couple of days off the live CD and I never could figure how to find my contacts or get in here, i had to install xchat03:58
Ares|LeftWhat's a good free hex editor for Kubuntu?03:59
walzmyn_2 done03:59
_2walzmyn ok   umount /home03:59
walzmyndone03:59
_2walzmyn should be no output the first time you run that.  run it again and it should tell you that /home is not mounted04:00
walzmyncheck04:00
walzmynwhy is there no "n" in that command?04:00
_2walzmyn cause that's it's name04:00
walzmynok04:01
walzmyn_2 /home is unmounted04:01
_2walzmyn  fsck $(grep /home /etc/fstab | cut -f1)04:01
_2you can skip the grep if you know the device name   fsck /dev/blah04:02
walzmyn_2 it's checking04:03
_2call me when it finishes.04:03
walzmyn_2 dude, this is the second time you've helped me with some big problem, I owe you a big thanks04:03
walzmyn_2 you don't live in Atlanta do ya? I'll buy you lunch04:03
_2we aint done yet.  you may lose intrest before we are.....04:04
walzmyn_2 it's an hour past my bedtime now   :)04:04
bucketheadAtlanta?04:04
buckethead*I* live in Atlanta.04:04
bucketheadHa.04:04
walzmyn_2 i'm at the point I can back up and just competely reinstall if I have to04:04
walzmyn_2 might be easier04:04
_2probably not.04:05
DoubleD84well... sh!t.. apparently that partition wasn't even mounted when I thought it was. I never though to ls the directory with it unmounted..04:05
bucketheadWhere is cmake/modules/FindKDE4Internal.cmake found? Its apt-files back to kdelibs5-dev, but that promptly wants to install 120mb of other stuff. I'd rather dump this thing than install that much.04:05
* DoubleD84 is a tard04:05
walzmynfsck is done, _204:06
_2walzmyn clean ?04:06
_2walzmyn ok, if no errors.       mount /home04:07
walzmyn_2 it dosen't say anything, just 6.6% non-contiguous04:07
_2walzmyn that's clean.04:07
walzmynok, mounted04:07
_2walzmyn   df | grep /home04:07
_2wait04:07
_2add -h    df -h | grep /home04:07
walzmyn/dev/sda4                 61G   61G   0  100%   /home04:08
_2walzmyn there's your problem.   partition is full04:09
_2walzmyn probably forgot to take out the trash04:09
_2walzmyn i would suggest   rm -r /home/*/.local      and df it again.04:10
DoubleD84thanks for the help. good night everyone04:10
walzmyn_2 that's the long story04:10
walzmyn_2 When I went back to stick windows on this computer, I accident let the thing format over my backup drive04:10
binMonkey_2: when you said df does that mean defrag?04:10
_2no04:10
walzmynI just a couple of days ago got a progam (windows only ) that restored the drive04:10
_2binMonkey defrag is for windows04:10
walzmynonly place I had big enough to hold all the data was /home04:11
binMonkey_2: that's what i though.  i just wanted to be sure.04:11
walzmynso it was filled up in a 40+ gig dump04:11
_2walzmyn ok can you delete that dump now ?  or is it precious ?04:11
walzmynI think i can delete it. I've repaired the backup drive and copied it over there04:12
walzmyni just coudln't get into linux and I dind't want to do anything else from windows04:12
_2walzmyn ok find it and use   rm /home/<name>/<filename>   on it04:12
walzmynI'll have to do that tomorrow04:13
walzmyni'm about to fall over04:13
walzmynthank you for all the help04:13
_2walzmyn ok.   good luck to your pinguin.04:13
walzmynthan you bunches my friend04:13
* walzmyn waves to all04:13
_2walzmyn04:13
_2don't forget to retighten security as seems good to you.     i.e. the root account we unlocked.04:14
walzmyngood point04:14
_2tomarrow.04:14
_2not now.04:14
walzmyndoubt anybody will think of that password though :)04:15
_2and   you're welcome.04:15
_2walzmyn ;/   your system.   make it as safe as you want it.   :)04:15
_2well i think i just repaired over 13k commands that i broke earlier04:17
jimmy51_homesvideo out looks good until xserver loads, then it has a terrible vertical sync problem and is in black and white.  any ideas?04:18
_2not me jimmy51_home sorry,  that's out of my realm04:19
binMonkeyi just left a python room and those guys are light years ahead of me.04:20
jimmy51_homebinMonkey: :)04:21
jimmy51_home_2: dang04:21
_2jimmy51_home i haven't started any gui today.   and don't own a teli   so....04:24
AlmightyTCan anyone help me finish install of a wireless headset?04:25
DarkTanok, got no audio on skype, docs give me commands i can't execute -_-04:30
DarkTananyone know who to fix that?04:31
DarkTanhow*04:32
grendal_primewerid skype just works usually, even on shitty sound cards..cant help ya out there..what sound card you have something integrated into your laptop?04:33
DarkTandesktop, and it's a sound blaster04:34
grendal_primeveeeerrry werid04:34
grendal_primesorry man cant help ya there..did you install with the package manager04:35
DarkTanyeah04:35
DarkTanadded the repos04:35
DarkTan!skype04:35
ubottuTo install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto04:35
DarkTanis the debian package a better idea?04:37
_2DarkTan what commands you can't exec ?04:38
_2show me error message04:38
DarkTangedit is one04:40
DarkTani think i got it tho, it can play audio now, but can't capture04:40
jussi01DarkTan: change gedit to kate ;)04:40
DarkTanseems my 5.1 cars needs a little more intensive selections04:40
jussi01DarkTan: I find I have to adjust skype settings a bit for my card04:41
JediatNightcan anyone comment on the weather of seattle ?04:42
DarkTanyeah, i think i got it now04:42
DarkTanJediatNight: it sucks04:42
DarkTan:P04:42
_2substitute    s/[gksu,gksudo]/kdesudo/g,s/gedit/kate/g04:42
JediatNighti heard its rains very often there.. how do people live there for christs sake?04:42
JediatNight:p04:42
grendal_primethats what they get for not living in california04:43
_2:)04:43
JediatNightcalifornia seems better.. . you can ride a bike even in winter...04:43
_2gold coast    pfft.04:44
JediatNightit would be "marvelous" ...04:44
JediatNighthow is dallas?04:45
_2who are you asking ?04:46
JediatNight_2: i'm asking you04:46
_2don't know, never been there.04:46
* DarkTan lives in FL, 80something today w00t04:47
JediatNight_2: it seems like your domain name is from Dallas04:47
_2seems you have me confused with my ip....04:47
DarkTanok got it to connect, now i goes to sleep and fiddle tommorow04:47
JediatNightyeah04:47
_2JediatNight don't worry you aren't the first one that recconed me in the wrong   city/state/country/contenant.04:48
JediatNight_2: where you at  ?04:49
_2on the other side.04:49
_2but i do work for them/us04:50
JediatNighthmm...04:50
=== BlinkyToon is now known as Don_Miguel
* JediatNight looks at all the bots in the channel04:52
_2most of the bots in the channel look at JediatNight04:53
thethirdmooseIs phonon compatible with OSS4?04:54
_2!botsnack | JediatNight who you looking at,  i'll run your04:54
ubottuJediatNight who you looking at,  i'll run your: Yum! Err, I mean, APT!04:54
* JediatNight is scared04:55
_2!info phonon04:56
ubottuphonon (source: phonon): metapackage for Phonon multimedia framework. In component main, is optional. Version 4:4.2.0-0ubuntu1 (intrepid), package size 6 kB, installed size 76 kB04:56
binMonkey!botsnack04:56
ubottuYum! Err, I mean, APT!04:56
_2hmmm thethirdmoose i don't know.04:57
binMonkey_2: do more bot tricks, please.04:57
_2like that ?04:58
binMonkeyyes.04:58
JediatNight_2: yes we do like those tricks04:58
binMonkeyi will give you a candy if you do.04:58
binMonkeya special candy.04:58
* JediatNight gives _2 a Hershey bar for the magic tricks he is about to teacch 04:59
* binMonkey gives Jedi +104:59
_2!lag | JediatNight04:59
ubottuJediatNight: You have lag, I don't have lag04:59
binMonkey_2: moar!  dance, bot monkey, dance!05:00
JediatNighthehe05:00
JediatNight!lag | _205:01
ubottu_2: You have lag, I don't have lag05:01
_2ubottu anything05:01
ubottuSo, you wanted to lure me into saying I don't know anything about anything? Yeah, that would be funny, of course. Now leave me alone.05:01
_2ubottu fembot05:02
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about fembot05:02
_2lonely you.05:02
JediatNighti was looking for fembots05:02
JediatNightthere is one : emma .. i saw her.. earlier today.. i wonder where she is now05:03
binMonkeyubottu emma05:03
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about emma05:03
_2JediatNight this is irc "where men are men,  and women are men,  and little children are fbi agents"05:03
JediatNight_2 : what other irc channels are you at?05:04
_2oh a few.05:04
_2doesn't matter05:04
JediatNighti used to be on efnet many years ago... when internet was new05:04
_2when internet was new   :)05:05
JediatNight:)05:05
_2"i invented the internet"  - al gore05:05
JediatNightit was "new" to common folks like us.. back in 199505:05
_2heh   yeah it really was.    i understand that.05:06
_2linux was new then05:07
JediatNightlife was simple then....05:07
_2still is05:07
_2it's what ever you make of it.05:07
JediatNightit depends.. on what we choose.. it can be simple or complicated05:07
JediatNight_2 : true05:07
_2too true   or binary true ?05:08
_2binary true = 005:08
* _2 mussent punish05:08
ptl!lag05:08
ubottuYou have lag, I don't have lag05:08
JediatNightbinary true05:08
JediatNight;-)05:09
leeEh   ok this is stragne but I'll give it a shot lol any who I was opperating the kde 4.1 and I was down loading a debian disk as I was curiouse about it and it was 4.4 gig, no problem there, the problem came when So how the down load rest after it was finished down loading I had this realy wierd thing of an 8.some gigabyte disk, eh what happend, how did the 2 isos merge and has this ever happend to any one befor?05:09
_2true ; echo $?05:09
_2false ; echo $>05:09
_2?05:09
JediatNight_2 : can you do some tricks with the bots ? probably .. we can play with them..05:10
ptllee: I dunno, but I bet your md5sum to verify the image will fail.05:10
leeI was in KDE4.1..funy thing eh, I think something seriously wrong with KDE4 it passed it05:11
leeany wierd it did say "trying to over burn the disk05:11
leeBut you are right after running that it faile miserably lol05:12
leeJsut not sure why KDE  and KB3 didnt catch it05:12
twylightguys05:12
twylightI have an announcement05:12
leeyes05:12
twylightit is my seventeenth birthday05:12
leeHAPPY BIRTHDAY05:12
twylightthanks05:13
leehmm 1 more year and you 1805:13
twylightI know05:13
leehmm fo it to be on topic have you decided what you want to in Linux field of work lol05:13
leeMe, iam 3805:13
_2JediatNight they took all the good infonodes away,   ubottu is just no fun anymore.    it used to say things like    !startaneditorwar > pico is better than vim       or    !startadisktopwar > twm is better than kde     and stuff like that.   it had some "larts"  (clean ones)   and a few just funny blah's    but now it's dull and gets us in trouble if we abuse it.05:13
ptlI am 3405:13
ptlalmost 3505:13
_2!botabuse | JediatNight & binMonkey05:14
ubottuJediatNight & binMonkey: Please investigate with me only with "/msg ubottu Bot" or in #ubuntu-bots.  Search for factoids with "/msg ubottu !search factoid".05:14
JediatNightsometimes when i'm bored.. i like to play with bots05:14
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lee!ubuntu05:14
ubottuUbuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Ubuntu comes with the GNOME interface. To install that from Kubuntu install the ubuntu-desktop package.05:14
ptl!startaneditorwar05:14
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)05:14
leewell taht one still works lol05:14
twylightthanks, you guys make me feel young05:14
twylightyeah, I remember when ubotu would remark about getting mental help if you ask for info on M$ or windoze05:14
leewell, hmm I think that KDE has some seriouse bugs that need squahing05:15
lee*squashing05:15
JediatNighti dont know why.. Obiwan said.. "if droids could think there would be none of us" .....they seem intelligent to me :p05:15
_2what just happened?     did we somehow go from #kubuntu to (twilight zone AOL)    are these kids actually playing the asl game in here ???05:15
JediatNighthappy birthday Twylight05:15
leehehehe, well, you  know for reals, Japan has some amazing real droid like robots that can Run now05:15
twylight_2, we're notplaying the ASL game05:16
JediatNightjapan is into inventing humanoid robots05:16
leehmm I wonder if they use linux for there ai05:16
leelol Hm how can we, American sign language is only good if you have a cam conected to the PC05:16
twylightwe're playing the twylight just turned 17 game05:16
leewaht has american sign language have to do with anything lol05:17
lee<<<<<signs in signed english though05:17
ptlyay, let's change msn and facebook addresses also05:17
ptlexchange05:17
_2lee  wrong acronym05:17
leelol oh the OTHER ASL lol, hehehe05:18
leeI knew waht you were talking aobut lol, jsut heckling ya05:18
JediatNighthow is ASL different from other sign languages? how many are they?05:19
_2besides i thought that was asian rather than americam05:19
_2n05:19
JediatNighti always wondered who invented the sign language.. is it universal or is it different across countries/continents05:20
_2yep05:20
_2:)05:20
_2ever have anyone do that to you.  you as dualistic questions and they answer in the singular05:21
lee ok there is American sign language (ASL) Signed Exact English) Pigeon (slang sign) and Universal Sign Language (rare) then there is  all the different sign language that is all over the different states then there is Sign language form other countrys withere own versions of signs..so literaly its like Linux.....Many Mnay doiffernt Distrso lol05:21
JediatNighthmmmm...interesting05:22
leeno on eperson invneted it05:22
twylightlee05:22
twylighthave you been drinking?05:22
leeNo,05:23
leeIam jsut a bad speller and the spell check isnt working lol05:23
ptlyou have dyslexical typing.05:23
leeah ok , i activated it05:23
_2i'm not lysdexic05:23
twylightthere we go05:23
twylightdyslexics untie!05:23
binMonkeyi invented asl.  al gore05:24
JediatNighti'm drinking05:24
twylightI'm going to do something I probably shouldn't05:24
ptlI invented Al Gore.05:24
_2binMonkey :)05:24
binMonkeyme too!05:24
leeweird it didn't come pre-activated05:24
JediatNighti'm not dsylexisc btw05:24
leeNo I can't drink, this Scotsman's blood can't handle  that kind of eh input05:25
leeat any rate, is this a help channel or general channel lol05:25
_2it's the output that always diverted me05:25
twylightI'm gonna ingest a bunch of codiene, and enjoy my night05:25
leeis confused05:25
binMonkeydoes konversation have spell check?05:26
_2!topic05:26
ubottuPlease read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic05:26
ptlit was a Linux channel, you magically turned it into a A/S/L channel, I think05:26
leeyes it does but not activaated05:26
leeone has to activate it05:26
binMonkeytwylight: you're only seventeen.  stick with cough syrup!05:26
twylightyeah, it should be located between keyboard and chair05:26
twylightno05:26
twylightI hate cough syrup05:26
twylightthe gels are less disgusting but the trip scares me05:26
ptlbinMonkey: try kvirc, kde also and way way more powerful than konversation05:26
leetwylight how about enjoying Life clean and sober05:27
daneelhi all. Having a slight problem with ubuntu netbook-remix in my eee.where did the icons on the left tabs go (see http://www.ph.utexas.edu/~daneel/snapshot1.png )05:27
_2lee can't be done, he's to young05:27
twylightI considered it lee but then decided that the scenic route is more interesting05:27
binMonkeyptl: i'm downloading it now.05:27
leelol I see05:27
JediatNighti'm bored.. lets command the bots to do something.... if there any fembots.. they can do a striptease for all the guys here.. :p05:28
binMonkey!stripbot05:28
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about stripbot05:28
JediatNighthehe05:28
binMonkeydang.05:28
JediatNight_2 :  can you tell the fembots to so something for us?05:28
binMonkeymake the bots dance for us, _2.05:28
_2@time05:29
leelol, I remember a time when and if some one kept heckling the bots they were temporarily banned05:29
ubottuCurrent time in Etc/UTC: November 14 2008, 05:29:04 - Next meeting: Americas Regional Board in 3 days05:29
leehas it changed that much in the last 6 months or have we all just went nuts?05:29
_2lee still are,   just that the ops kinda trust "us" to call them if needed.05:30
leeoh that is cool05:30
leewell a litle fun never hurt anyone05:30
ptlbinMonkey: kvirc is like mirc in that is has lots of fancy features and script language. It also has some veeeeery colorful fucked-up girlie scripts if you search its site.05:31
_2i like this channel when it's not so "ridgid"   and silent.   but!      and i say  BUT! when someone needs help.   lets do remember to shutup and either help them or let others do so.05:31
JediatNighti'm addicted to plain old   stuff like konsole, konversation  ..........05:32
_2!language | ptl05:32
ubottuptl: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.05:32
JediatNightalthough kvirc seems cool05:32
binMonkeyptl: i just discovered konversation.  i was using irssi.  i think i might like fucked up girlie scripts.  do they make it look pretty?05:32
leeany how eh just out of Curiosity eh is KDE 3.5 totally out of the picture for Ibex?05:33
_2!language | binMonkey05:33
ubottubinMonkey: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.05:33
leeooh sensor bot with language05:34
binMonkeysorry.  ptl was giving me some mighty peer pressure, though.05:34
_2folks,   the network rules demand that we keep things family friendly   and so do the chan opps.05:34
leeyeppers and being banned is no fun :)05:34
leeooh not to mention the reputaion one can get05:35
binMonkeyplease don't ban me.  i really like this channel.05:35
binMonkeyyou guys have all been helpful and friendly.05:35
leewell me I am a newby still learning05:35
_2and would like to stay that way05:35
_2@ binMonkey05:35
twylightibex fails05:36
ptlbinMonkey: yes, they make it look pretty. I really like kvirc, I think it's a pretty good IRC client.05:36
twylightkde 4 is unfamiliar territory05:36
twylightand d3lphin I don't like05:36
leeOh I showed a friend Kubuntu and they really liked it, I think I have another conversion from Vista05:36
twylightit makes my inner child cry05:36
_2!d3lpnin | twylight you can change it.05:36
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about d3lpnin05:36
ptlbinMonkey: but as I need text-mode for IRC, I stick to irssi, which I think excels in the console world.05:36
leeeh though the liked the Ubuntu better05:36
twylightI did05:36
_2!d3lphin | twylight you can change it.05:37
ubottutwylight you can change it.: Dolphin, or more properly D3lphin, is the new default file manager for Kubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon. If you would like to make Konqueror your default file manager again, go to Konqueror - Settings menu - Configure Konqueror - File Associations and change the association for inode/directory and inode/system_directory to Konqueror at the top rather than Dolphin.05:37
_2helps if i spell it correctly    no?05:37
twylightyes05:37
leeaye05:37
twylightI changed it back to konqueror05:37
twylightWHO HAS THE SONAR SCREENSAVER05:37
_2k05:37
leegreat m bad spelling is contagious05:37
leeSonar?05:37
_2yeah sonar05:37
_2i like that one05:38
twylightit's supposed to show computers around you based on ping05:38
leeEh not sure, I havn't checked05:38
twylight(not physical location, damn)05:38
binMonkey_2: can you make thunar the default in the same way?05:38
_2only screensaver that isn't just bloat or blank05:38
ptlI had a bot in a channel that swears a lot just so that the daily minimum of bad words is granted.05:38
_2binMonkey probably,    i've never tried.05:38
ptlI mean, I HAVE such a bot.05:38
leeah05:39
binMonkeywhat channel was that?05:39
ptl#truta.org and the bot is Ajudadora.05:39
ptlbut it's in portuguese...05:39
binMonkeyipanema.05:39
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ptlbinMonkey: if you like kvirc, I would recommend the script 'sanvirc'05:40
leeWell, HM some one put to gather a relay Nifty live DVD..has nothing but video and Audio editing on it..Called artist X05:40
twylightmy current screensaver is blocktube05:41
twylightset to wireframe05:41
twylightand it's ridiculously awesome05:41
leebut I am rather Confused on the instructions on how to Transfer everything from that disk to eh this OS05:41
leeMy Current screen save is  Blank screen05:41
binMonkeybrb.  i'm going to try kvirc.05:42
_2my screen saver is blank screen,     but that's about all you get in console05:42
ptlmy current screensaver is echo aaa > /dev/sda, just so that I never get off the computer, always keep it on.05:42
leeOh that is new, they put up , wiki, pastebin up in links that is new05:42
leelol05:43
leemy tv has this funtion on the PC end where if there is no activity it shuts off05:43
leeNot sure hoy it knows this or not though lol05:43
lee*how05:43
leeeh auto power off such a joy05:44
_2same way apm knows that the console is inactive05:44
twylightI have konsole hotkeyed to ctrl-alt-shift-k05:45
_2"it's watching you"05:45
_2!info yakuake05:45
ubottuyakuake (source: yakuake): a Quake-style terminal emulator based on KDE Konsole technology. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.9.3-0ubuntu1 (intrepid), package size 206 kB, installed size 1292 kB05:45
leeI thought It was big brother "doing the watching"05:46
twylightis there a way to configure konsole to have green text instead of white?05:46
leeeh in some rooms the refrain from using coolored chat05:46
_2lee no,  we are too busy keeping an eye on solarus05:46
leeahh ...what is going on with them?05:47
ptltwylight: of course05:47
leehmm I have heard interesting things about that distro lol05:47
JediatNighti'm sleeping.....  later guys05:47
leehavn't tried it05:47
twylightwait I got it05:47
_2twylight sure.   configure it throught it's menu.05:47
Jabrroalaterz05:47
leeWell, so far, Scribus gave me issues in Kubuntu05:48
Jabrroaim usin bcktrack... no issues lol05:48
leethen I have had this weird way to big ISO05:48
leeahh05:48
_2or   \033[1;32m05:49
leeWell, Like I said I am still learning05:49
binMonkeyptl: i kind of like this kvirc.05:49
ptlbinMonkey: it is very good, I like it. And making scripts for it is very easy.05:49
Jabrroawhats a irc script?05:49
Jabrroaim new to irc05:49
Jabrroalol05:50
leehmm to bad none of the newer Ubuntu/Kubuntu work on the PS305:50
Jabrroai have ubuntu 8.04 on my ps305:50
leeonly versions with live sessions work on it :(05:50
binMonkeyptl: were you able to get tabs working in irssi.  i'm 41 and kind of new to all of this.05:50
leeHow did you get it to work, mine jsut wiggs out05:50
Jabrroai just had 8.10 but it was unstable05:50
Jabrroano installed05:50
Jabrroa:)05:50
leonardohi05:50
leehi05:50
leonardoim a newbie05:51
binMonkeyhi.05:51
leonardobye05:51
_2Jabrroa scripts or "batch" files,  are ways to automate things  you can put few or many commands in one script and from there exicute it via one command05:51
leejabbra how did you get 8.4 to work, mine wont accept the text only set up it keeps coming up with one error after another05:52
Jabrroai well heres my config... 4gb PS3 with a 600gb HDD  i just stuck it in and installed05:52
Jabrroai know what batch fles are...05:52
leeLive or alternate?05:52
ptlbinMonkey: tabs? What do you mean by tabs? I use different windows for different channels. Is that what you call tabs? I have 22 windows open right now.05:52
Jabrroai make certain things with them :)05:52
Jabrroacompletely installed05:52
Jabrroa22...?? omg05:53
ptlbinMonkey: anyway, irssi is a text client, so there's no other way to learn it - you'll have to read tutorials, there are no easy buttons or menus. It is very good, but text mode is not for everyone05:53
_2<Jabrroa> whats a irc script?    i was just responding.05:53
supertonesseriously05:53
Jabrroayea thanks lol i diddn't know they were the same05:54
Jabrroasorry05:54
supertonesscripts automate things for ya05:54
binMonkeyptl: i saw a script that sectioned irssi off so that it was kind of like tabs.  i couldn't get it to work.05:54
leeHmm I wonder why mine won't accept taht laternate install05:54
Jabrroalee i completely installed it...05:54
Jabrroalol idk bro05:54
Jabrroacorrupted?05:54
Jabrroamaybe its cuz i have a custom HDD? idk05:55
leeahh I have the 40 gig unit05:55
_2pfft   lee is lysdexic boardkey times some05:55
Jabrroawell i Upgraded mine to a WD 600gb one05:55
Jabrroaso mightbe that05:56
leehmm ok well may I'll do that then05:56
Jabrroamore space :)05:56
Jabrroa nd when they hack the ps3 you will need it05:56
binMonkeyis installing on a ps3 like having a super powerful computer?  what kind of cpu ghz is that comparable to?05:56
leehehee, well I formated mine for most of the hdd to be used for linus instead of the 10 gig thing05:56
Jabrroalol05:56
Jabrroawell its still only 4005:57
Jabrroayea ps is very poerfull05:57
ptlbinMonkey: I don't know this script, but the windows facility of irssi is quite equivalent to tabs. I keep switching between them with ESC-0, ESC-1 etc. (or Alt-0, Alt-1....)05:57
leeit has 7 of 8 processors available and it runs, IBM No drivers for the RSX chip though05:57
ptlbinMonkey: anyway there's an #irssi channel, you should check with them since I don't know this particular script05:57
twylightI love you guys05:57
twylightyou're always there to help fix my computer when I break stuff05:57
leeeh wait I came across something but it was for YDL05:57
Jabrroai run Oblivion on it :)05:57
Jabrroaworkslike a charm05:58
ptlwhat's oblivion?05:58
JabrroaYDL is nice05:58
Jabrroaoblivion05:58
Jabrroa lol05:58
_2ptl just a thought, you can disable that function and have all your channels in one window     not good if you minitor too much text though05:58
leeMy YDL 5 disk got dammaged :(05:58
Skiihow do u turn a wma file into a mp3 file in ubuntu???05:58
ptl_2: I know, I don't like it that way05:58
Jabrroaits an RPG05:59
leebut I have version 605:59
Jabrroai could send you the image file...05:59
Jabrroaoh ok05:59
Jabrroa lol05:59
ptlSkii: mencoder, transcoder if you like the command-line05:59
Skiihow do i do that?05:59
ptlSkii: but since you lose quality when you do this, think twice.05:59
_2!wma | Skii05:59
ubottuSkii: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats05:59
leeHehe well, I loaded it with out enlightenment lol05:59
Jabrroai run elive 1.0 gem on my ps306:00
Skiithe reason why i'm ask'n is cuz i have song's that r into wma but i want them to be in mp3 so i can put them to my mp3 player06:00
leeOh coolio06:00
Jabrroaim on it right now06:00
Jabrroai want to try backtrack06:00
Jabrroaor dreamlinux06:01
Jabrroai use backtrack sometimes though06:01
leeahh06:01
Skiihow do i put a wma into mp3???06:01
binMonkeygood night, guys.06:01
Jabrroause a converter06:01
jussi01!info soundkonverter | Skii06:01
ubottuskii: soundkonverter (source: soundkonverter): audio converter frontend for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.8-2 (intrepid), package size 543 kB, installed size 2100 kB06:01
_2Skii you obviously didn't read what ubottu told you.06:02
leeUbubtu and Kubuntu works great on it as well, jsut confuses me on what os to run     on it06:02
Skiiok06:02
Jabrroalee i will take my 40gb and format it and  see if ubuntu works on it :)06:02
Skiiso then should i use soundkonverter???06:02
Skiiif it's what i want it to do that is???06:03
leejabora ok it should, but I havn't had any luck with that ISO06:03
_2and visit   http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html and   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats   yes06:03
leeunless they can make it live, I am dead in the water06:03
Jabrroaill be back tomorow with ressults lol good luck bro :) peace out everyone06:03
leeok Ill be on tomarow06:04
Jabrroaaight laterz06:04
Skiican someone tell me how can i turn a wma into mp3???06:04
leethanks jabrroa06:04
Jabrroanp06:04
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_2Skii nope, it's not possable.06:04
ptlSkii: soundkonverter should do the job once you have the necessary codecs06:04
Skiiwhy not???06:04
_2cause you don't listen.06:05
leehmm and some arnt free06:05
Skiihow do i get the necessary codecs and how do i get soundkonverter???06:05
_2skii visit   http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html and   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats06:06
Skiinm on how to get soundkonverter i already have it downloading  ^_^06:06
_2don't download it.06:06
Skiinow, how do i get the nessary codecs for it???06:06
_2nope.  it's not possable.06:06
_2i give up.06:06
ptl?06:06
Skiitoo late06:06
Skiii'm srry06:06
ptlwhy it's not possible? lol06:07
Skiii did use adpet manager to get soundkonverter06:07
ptlit's sorta lame, but it's possible06:07
Skiii'm srry06:07
_2ptl cause you just can't tell him,06:07
_2he dont' hear a thing you say.06:07
Skiitell me what???06:07
leehmm jsut a sec, I'll brb06:07
erik_Hello, I'm having trouble getting KDE to update to 4.1.3 from 4.0.5 using adept06:07
Skiii'm rite here, don't play me for a damn idot cuz that's NOT who i am06:07
leeehwait, I am still Downloading06:08
_2erik_ error messages ?06:08
erik_no just can't figure out how the hell to do it lol.06:09
ptlerik_: try that from the console as root, aptitude purge $(dpkg -l | grep -- -kde4 | awk '{print $2}') && aptitude install kubuntu-desktop06:09
erik_used to gnome06:09
erik_Okay give me one second to try that.06:09
leeoh there's a thought, I didn't use the set up disk, instead I did a down load..I wonder if that could be my issue on why Kubuntus givng me such a headache06:09
leeoops I didnt do a purge befor down laoding06:10
leeoops my bad06:10
leeptl I knew I fergot something, I didn't purge lol06:11
erik_That command is in the process of removing KDE406:11
ptlyes06:11
_2ptl not meaning to be critical,  but would ; be better than && in that sting ?     you could leave him without a desktop06:11
ptlbecause the KDE4 you have is not packaged the same way as kubuntu 8.10's kde06:12
leeerg06:12
erik_I still have gnome I can fall back on06:12
ptl_2: you can be critical, I just used && because if this aptitude returns an error is because the removal wasn't successful06:12
erik_If this borks my kde desktop06:12
leeme too and that is waht I am running atm06:12
* mister-tea again says hi to _206:13
erik_Okay, I'm back at the prompt06:13
leeptl i wasn't joking it seriously did that wierd thing with that ISO in KDE06:13
_2yes i realize why,   just thinking that ;.* -f    might be a "safer" methood  but again,  that's your call not mine.06:13
ptllee: I believe you, but that's it, you should also check the md5... anyway, if you can reproduce that, you should file a bug report06:14
leeany idea on waht would cause the system to double the same ISO06:14
leeyeah I leanred a lesson06:14
_2mister-tea by the time i answered earlier you was went.06:14
ptl_2: might be06:14
leeany reloading after deleting that ISO lol06:14
erik_BTW, I'm using Hardy Heron if that makes a difference06:15
_2see     ^06:15
_2:)06:15
* _2 hides again.06:15
* mister-tea sorry06:15
erik_ptl: Okay, where do I go from here?06:16
ptlerik_: ?06:16
leeptl I'll try to reproduce it..I should have take a snap shot06:16
ptlerik_: better use update-manager to upgrade to intrepid ibex06:17
ptlerik_: or just change all the occurences of /etc/apt/sources.list from 'hardy' to 'intrepid', it works too06:17
ptlI am sort of away now, studying HP-UX06:17
leeHM also another bug that I should report on is while running the planetarium, program , while down loading, the down load bar was flashing through the planetarium the strobing  effect was driving me nuts06:19
leeits been a while since I filed a bug reprt06:19
twylightI am so glad my spacebar works properly again06:20
leeok, be back later.. hmm Ill see if I can remmember my old nick to file those bugs..maybe its time for some bug squashing06:21
leeI miss my earlier days of having a c-64 lol06:21
_2lee i still have one.06:21
leelol coolio, I actually fried something in my while writing a program I am not sure though if it was a program though or if it jsut up and died, a few of the ICS were toasted :(06:23
leeCurious though, eh I thaught the chips in those were non programable06:24
leewell the last DVD06:25
leeCrosses his fingers06:25
leeand checking the checksum06:25
_2well i'm out.   thanks guys of putting up with me    i'll come back when i can't stay so long.06:28
leeeh, K3b isn't working? this is really weird, this is just not my day lol06:29
leebbl06:29
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leeOk this is strange since when did they add flushing the cahce in K3b?06:50
Wickedhow can i make it so in konqueror i can right click and choose to add files/folder to archive...or to extract files from archive? konq used to have this but in 8.10 it does not06:50
leenot sure I I ever had that ability in all my times of using Kubuntu06:52
leeso I defaulted and used Fire fox06:52
leeMAybe osme one with more expiereince then I can help uou wicked06:53
leeerg, I never should key while selepy06:54
leewell, sad to say, I am on my way, but sleep becons thy name06:54
BonchBruevichHello, everyone. I've just received the security updates for "login" and "passwd" packages.07:45
BonchBruevichWhere can I read about what was the problem?07:45
Dr_willisfrom the little update tool the Icon runs I see the 'changes' tab. :) and anotehr tab08:07
Dr_willisdisable the root password for virtual machines created with vm-builder08:07
Dr_willis    on Ubuntu 8.10. (LP: #296841)08:07
Dr_willis* debian/rules: use 'DEB_AUTO_UPDATE_LIBTOOL = pre' to work-around new08:08
Dr_willis    libtool (thanks Colin Watson)08:08
Dr_willispasswd change log  are identcial to those08:08
Synergy_Peacehi all08:12
Synergy_Peacei have installed a new dvd writer under intrepid however following error08:12
Synergy_Peaceit cannot mount08:12
Synergy_Peaceonald@synergy:~$ dmesg | tail08:12
Synergy_Peace[  496.231271] sr 1:0:0:0: [sr0] Sense Key : Aborted Command [current]08:12
Synergy_Peace[  496.231279] sr 1:0:0:0: [sr0] Add. Sense: I/O process terminated08:12
Synergy_Peace[  496.231288] end_request: I/O error, dev sr0, sector 249608:12
Synergy_Peace[  496.299737] sr 1:0:0:0: [sr0] Result: hostbyte=DID_OK driverbyte=DRIVER_SENSE,SUGGEST_OK08:13
Synergy_Peace[  496.299756] sr 1:0:0:0: [sr0] Sense Key : Aborted Command [current]08:13
Synergy_Peace[  496.299764] sr 1:0:0:0: [sr0] Add. Sense: I/O process terminated08:13
Synergy_Peace[  496.299773] end_request: I/O error, dev sr0, sector 14008:13
Synergy_Peace[  496.299914] udf: Block 35 of volume descriptor sequence is corrupted or we could not read it.08:13
Synergy_Peace[  496.307098] udf: Block 48 of volume descriptor sequence is corrupted or we could not read it.08:13
Synergy_Peace[  496.307111] UDF-fs: No partition found (1)08:13
Synergy_Peaceplease assist me08:13
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Synergy_Peacehow does one mount a dvd writer on the command line ?08:16
Dr_willissudo mount /dev/dvd /media/directory08:29
Dr_willisor similer...08:29
Dr_willislooks like that dvd may be currupted/dirty08:29
Dr_willis!info wine-gecko08:29
ubottuwine-gecko (source: wine-gecko): Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Web Browser). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 0.1.0-0ubuntu1 (intrepid), package size 5609 kB, installed size 5700 kB08:29
Synergy_Peacedr wiilis message said08:31
Synergy_Peacemount: block device /dev/scd0 is write-protected, mounting read-only08:31
Synergy_Peacemount: you must specify the filesystem type08:31
Dr_willistell it a filesstem type then. :)08:32
Dr_willis-t iso9660 or -t udf08:32
Dr_willisor -t auto  (which is the default I think)08:33
bambang is there any way config usb cdma modem that only support m$08:34
bambang???08:34
Dr_willisIf you are lucky someone has  reversed-enginered some drivers for it.. for linux.08:35
Dr_willisif not.. then no.08:36
Synergy_Peacedr willis mount: block device /dev/scd0 is write-protected, mounting read-only08:36
* Dr_willis is not sure what cdma means.. but thats the general thing for linux.. 08:36
Dr_willisSynergy_Peace,  so?08:36
Dr_willisits a dvd.. it is read only08:36
Synergy_Peaceoh so it should list files08:37
Dr_willisErr... yes.. you shoudl be able to access all files in a 'read only' manner.08:37
alejandrowhy i cant install nvidia propietary modules?08:38
alejandroi have kubuntu 7.1008:38
Dr_willisThat release is a bit out of date.. but you shoudl be able to use the hardware-manager tool to install them08:40
Dr_willisor whatever it was called back then08:40
Synergy_Peacedr willis so it the dvd is mounted however it will not play the dvd08:42
Dr_willislook on the mountpoint.. see wht files are there.. you see files?08:43
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Synergy_Peaceyes08:44
Dr_willisand is this a comercial dvd? or one you made?08:44
Synergy_Peacecommercial08:44
Dr_willisYou did instapp the dcss stuff that lets you play encrypted comercial dvds ?08:44
Dr_willis!dvd08:44
ubottuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats08:44
Dr_willis!medibuntu08:44
ubottumedibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org08:44
peto_hi08:45
Dr_willishttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu     To play encrypted DVDs, the libdvdcss2 package is essential. libdvdcss is a simple library designed for accessing DVDs like a block device without having to bother about the decryption.08:45
Synergy_Peaceyes have dvdcss from mediubuntu08:45
Dr_willisThen you proberly need to tell the player the proper location of the dvd08:45
Synergy_Peaceok08:46
Dr_willisI tend to use vlc, or gmplayer08:46
Dr_willisthey have menus for that08:46
Synergy_Peacei have tryed mplayer totem and dragon08:47
Dr_willisgmplayer - menu -> open -> dvd08:48
Synergy_Peaceis there a way for to start hal manually so as to redect my dvd drive?08:48
Dr_willismplayer is command line.. You could perhaps use 'mplayer /dev/dvd'08:48
sd32uʍop ǝpısdn pǝuɹnʇ llɐ ʇǝƃ ı sǝɯıʇǝɯos08:48
Dr_willisYou may need to tweak your fstab entry08:49
Scopichi all08:49
Scopicanyone know if the GeForce 9600M GS is supported, or were to look? im seeing conflicting reports08:50
Dr_willisIve heard  the latest  cards/drivers have some issues.. I would say check the forums08:50
Scopicyea, nothing concrete there either08:51
Scopicnvidia use to be the way to go, but now I have been hearing that there newest drivers are terrible08:52
Scopicdon't know what truth that has08:52
Dr_willisIve had no issues on my 3 nvidia systems08:52
Dr_willisbut they are not 'cutting edge new'08:52
Synergy_Peacedr willis my fstab entry is08:52
* Scopic nods08:52
Dr_willis8800gtsxxx, 5500,  some laptop,08:52
Synergy_Peace    /dev/scd1       /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec,utf8 0       008:53
ScopicI am shopping for a new laptop, got it narrowed down to about 3. checking there compatibility the best I can before purchase08:54
Dr_willisSynergy_Peace,  i dont even have a entry in my fstab for the cdrom... thats interesting08:54
Dr_williscould be HAL wont touch it - if its in fstab08:54
spawn57hi, i just want to recompile the cifs module with acls enabled, is there away to do this by doing the command 'make modules' against the source ...08:54
Synergy_Peacemaybe the entry is for an old cdrom that i removed08:55
Synergy_Peaceshould i delete the entry in fstab so hal can redect?08:55
Dr_willistry it and see08:56
Dr_willisor comment it out08:56
Synergy_Peaceok08:56
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I_Died_OnceI have a question/problem with kubuntu 8.10 with KDE 4.109:05
I_Died_OnceI've reinstalled twice trying to figure out and restore my system to a working state09:05
I_Died_Oncecomeing off of a fresh install, I go to my settings to change some of the appearance and effects settings... it asks if i want to apply settings, and not its just sitting there09:06
I_Died_Oncenot frozen, as I can move the mouse,m but thats it09:07
I_Died_Once**now09:07
Dr_williskde 4.1 can be very argravating...09:07
I_Died_Oncehow do i restore to a working desktop?09:07
I_Died_Onceit never came back up after trying a new setting09:08
Dr_willisyou could logout and try removing all the users .kde* settings and  log back in09:08
I_Died_Once......ok09:08
christofTry removing / renaming ~/.kde09:08
I_Died_Oncewill try that09:08
I_Died_Onceits telling me its a directory and its not empty09:10
christofmv .kde .kde.sav09:10
Dr_willisIts telling you the truth. :)09:12
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birnissomhi, so am I the only one for whom firefox scrollbars/tabs don't look right with the qt-gtk style?09:35
dwidmannbirnissom: you should be able to set which qt style manually in systemsettings, try manually setting it to something other that "use my kde style" and see if it improves09:38
birnissomdwidmann: well I tried raleigh and it looks even uglier - seem like that's the default gtk application look on kde09:40
birnissomdwidmann: I resolved it more or less with the colorful tabs extension. now I just have strange-looking/behaving scrollbars09:41
dwidmannbirnissom: try the "qt4" option09:41
dwidmannbirnissom: or perhaps "qtcurve"09:41
birnissomdwidmann: yeah that's the one that's giving me problems09:42
Alexandruuo09:42
birnissomI don't have qtcurve09:42
birnissomdwidmann: do you know how I could get that?09:42
dwidmannbirnissom: then install it :)09:42
dwidmannbirnissom: I think it's the kde-style-qtcurve package09:42
dwidmannbirnissom: oh, and on the same page where you set that in systemsettings, it mentions something about a firefox/thunderbird "scrollbar" fix, have you tried it?09:43
birnissomdwidmann: yep tried that09:46
birnissomdwidmann: great, got qtcurve, thanks09:48
KrymHey09:48
dwidmannbirnissom: you're welcome09:48
dwidmannhi krym09:49
birnissomnext question. In the previous adept version I was able to just do a search and basically get the output of apt-cache search something. Can I still do that?09:49
KrymI'm having problems with lampp 1.6.8a and I know this is probably not the right place to go09:49
Krymit's a lib problem09:49
dwidmannbirnissom: dunno, I took 1 look at adept 3.0 and decided I'd much rather use apt-cache/apt-get ...09:50
birnissomdwidmann: well I learned apt-cache/get thanks to adept 3.0. Oh well :)09:51
knusperfroschhi09:53
Krymso..09:53
knusperfroschwhat in the blue fuck happened to adept ion .?09:53
knusperfroschjust deinstalled MB of packages09:53
Krymhello language09:53
knusperfrosch63009:53
dwidmannknusperfrosch: what were you doing that it wanted to remove so much?09:55
knusperfroschadept showed me 14 updates that should deinstall 20kb but after hiting apply it grew up to 63009:55
dwidmannknusperfrosch: hmm09:56
knusperfroschlooks like a really dirty bug in adept09:56
Krymanyway I start up lampp and it gives me :error while loading  shared libraries: libsybdb.so.5: cannot open shard object file: No such..09:56
dwidmannknusperfrosch: do you have any idea what it is that it removed?09:56
dwidmannKrym: try running "sudo ldconfig" and see if that does anything for the problem09:57
dwidmannknusperfrosch: check /var/log/apt/.....09:57
knusperfroschwell i didn't pay attention on it, got blunted by regulare updates so it took some time till i got mistrustfull09:58
Krymno changes09:58
dwidmannknusperfrosch: I know I've been hit with plenty of packages to remove from hardy (like all the *-kde4 packages)09:58
knusperfroschafter seeing mysql passing by and linux-modules-2.6.something i got in panic and killed adept09:58
a_is there a system monitor that tracks and identifys remote connections ?09:59
dwidmannknusperfrosch: having upgraded to intrepid09:59
knusperfroschno kde4 on that machine09:59
dwidmann!adeptfix | knusperfrosch09:59
ubottuknusperfrosch: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »09:59
knusperfroschubottu: in don't care about the db, i care about no internet connection and no kernel modules on that machine. the db is some low prio problem10:00
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)10:00
dwidmannknusperfrosch: apt-get might very well try to remove the same things, run that command, then "sudo apt-get upgrade" to check and see what it wants to do10:00
a_!system monitor10:00
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about system monitor10:00
dwidmannknusperfrosch: was it mid-installation/removal when you shut it down? If so ... you might have to run "sudo apt-get -f install" and maybe also 'sudo dpkg --configure -a"10:00
knusperfroschthat machine is completely screwed up. lan is broken due to hardware defect and wlan got broken due to deinstalled modules10:01
a_anyone here use Konversation? what does it mean when some names are light grey in the list on the right?10:01
a_such as KingOfDos10:02
dwidmannknusperfrosch: in that case ... I hope your /home is on another partition because reinstalling might be the easiest option10:02
knusperfroschdwidmann: for shure it was. that was the only method to stop that amok runnink adept from deinstalling my whole system10:02
knusperfroschdwidmann: god praise the livecd ;)10:02
contrastgreets, everyone10:02
dwidmanna_: I use it. ... I think it means they're set to "away"10:02
dwidmannhi contrast10:03
a_dwidmann: yeah makes sense i guess10:03
JampiterHi - I've got a question which I asked the other day but I forgot the answer10:03
contrasti'm unable to get sound in s/mplayer, tried every audio driver - no dice. any ideas?10:03
dwidmanncontrast: the right one to use, at least in my experience, is "-ao alsa9"10:04
knusperfroschdwidmann: home isn't another partition since i don't see any sense in partitioning a hardisk unless i use more than one OS on it. everything else makes unflexible and wastes disc capacity10:04
dwidmanncontrast: you've tried it with multiple *different* video files?10:04
contrastdwidmann: yep10:04
knusperfroschhas adept any sort of log?10:05
JampiterI recently installed KDE4 on Hardy, but whenever I try to start it it loads up half way through the loading screen before the screen goes black and dumps me back on the login screen. I was told I needed to do a console login and delete a specific file but I can't remember what it was... any ideas?10:05
dwidmannknusperfrosch: well, there are *other* benefits to keeping /home separate10:05
dwidmannknusperfrosch: such as during upgrades, reinstalls, etc ... you don't have to backup anything, all you have to do is go ahead and do it.10:05
contrastdwidmann: that got it, thanks. i didn't try all the drivers on multiple files. whoops10:06
Krymanybody here familiar with lampp10:06
knusperfroschdwidmann: i backup everything, everyday ;) and i got out of the reinstall-os-every-half-year-rhythm since i switched all my machines to FOSS, so this is the first time i have to do so10:08
knusperfroschbut i'd like to find out why adept failed so massively10:08
dwidmannknusperfrosch: try the logs in /var/log/apt/ ... maybe it writes to those as well10:08
noaXess!backup10:08
ubottuThere are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning10:08
JampiterAnyone?10:09
a_hey... can i emulate my ps2 (playstation 2 ) on my linux pc?10:09
dwidmannJampiter: maybe ~/.ICEauthority10:09
JampiterOk, I'll try that10:10
Jampiter...how do I do a console login again?10:10
JampiterAnd how do I delete files in the console... I've never had to do it10:10
dwidmannJampiter: rm filename10:11
Dr_willishttp://linuxcommand.org/10:11
JampiterThanks10:11
JampiterBut how do I login to the console?10:11
Dr_willisalt-ctrl-f110:12
Dr_willislogin: username10:12
Dr_willis:)10:12
JampiterOk10:12
JampiterThanks :)10:12
Dr_willisalt-ctrl-f7 to get back to X10:12
noaXesshm.. i want backup my whole disk to a compressed disk image.. can i do that with dd if=/dev/sda | gzip > /home/sda.bin.gz10:12
JampiterThanks :)10:13
dwidmannnoaXess: you didn't specify an "of" to dd, it won't work10:13
dwidmanndd if=infile of=outfile10:13
JampiterI've pressed CTRL+ALT+F1 and now the cursor's vanished and it's locked up10:13
Dr_willisdont forget the bs option10:13
noaXessdwidmann: but look in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem there is the command dd if=/dev/hda1 | gzip > /home/hda1.bin.gz10:13
JampiterWill it work if I log into KDE3 and delete the file from there?10:14
Krymneed some help with lampp libs10:14
Dr_willisIve seen where some X video drivers mess witht he consoles.. I always disable the framebuffer in such cases10:14
knusperfroschdwidmann: /var/log/dpkg.log is quite verbose but i'll first need a livecd to copy it, since usb-sticks don't work anymore...10:14
dwidmannnoaXess: I would do "dd if=/dev/sda of=sdabackup bs=4096; gzip sdabackup10:14
noaXessdwidmann: you mean first dd command and the gzip command..10:15
dwidmannnoaXess: right10:15
noaXessdwidmann: so i need exact same size of of then for if.. exact same hd size or more..10:15
dwidmannnoaXess: right10:16
noaXessok.. search ing a big hd :)10:16
dwidmannnoaXess: I think you can compress on the fly if you use partimage10:16
noaXessdwidmann: how?10:16
dwidmannnoaXess: well, partimage has a curses gui, it's not a hidden option, it's pretty obvious10:16
knusperfroschLOL adept even deinstalled the kernel10:17
dwidmannknusperfrosch: that's very odd.10:17
noaXessdwidmann: you mean qparted?10:17
noaXessqtparted10:17
dwidmannnoaXess: no.10:17
dwidmann!info partimage | noaXess10:18
ubottunoaxess: partimage (source: partimage): backup partitions into a compressed image file. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.7-1 (intrepid), package size 271 kB, installed size 960 kB10:18
noaXessaha10:18
noaXessinstalling ;)10:19
Krymso im thinking that hardy doesnt work with lampp10:20
Jampiterdwidmann: deleting ~/.ICEauthority didn't work :(10:21
noaXessdwidmann: do you now partimage?10:21
dwidmannJampiter: well you were awfully vague ... that was just one of the possibilities.10:21
JampiterWhat else could I try10:21
JampiterI'm not using graphics accelleration, so could that be a factor?10:22
dwidmannJampiter: who or what told you that you need to delete a file?10:23
JampiterDr_Willis I think10:23
JampiterThe other day10:23
JampiterI didn't actually do it 'cos it started working10:23
JampiterI thought it had fixed itself but now it's gone all weirdy again10:24
dwidmannwell, Dr_willis is around, as of ten minutes ago, why not ask him?10:24
Dr_willisHuh?10:25
* Dr_willis is watching Dr Who. :)10:25
JampiterHi Dr_Willis10:25
JampiterKDe4's still broke - it still goes black and dumps me back on the login screen if I try and log in on it10:26
Jampiter:(10:26
JampiterI think you told me to delete a troublesome file, but I can't remember what it was10:26
Dr_willisI rarely use kde4 so no idea what one it would be10:26
Mojo_risinis it possible to make a panel vertical in KDE 4?10:26
dwidmannMojo_risin: click on the little shell thingon the far side of the panel, then try to drag the panel to the side.10:27
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Mojo_risindwidmann: does not work for me10:28
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dwidmannJampiter: try moving your home directory, (something like, sudo mv $HOME $HOME_backup), then "sudo mkdir $HOME", then try to log in10:29
Dr_willisjust movuing the .kde directorys may do it. :) unless hes using compiz10:29
apadoxhi, how can i see what video driver do I have10:29
dwidmannapadox: grep Driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf10:30
Mojo_risindwidmann: ah ok, one has to drag the configuration area10:30
a_does 8.10 improve performance over 8.04 when trying windows games on wine?10:30
dwidmannMojo_risin: yeah, I was pretty sure that was how to do it ...10:31
JampiterOk dwidmann - I'll try that10:31
dwidmannJampiter: one sec, you might need to "sudo chown $USER:$USER $HOME" after that10:32
JampiterOk10:32
Jampiterdwidmann: On the first one it's saying missing destination file operand10:33
ActionParsnipdwidmann: nice one dude10:33
noaXesshave kde4 on my kubuntu 8.04...10:33
noaXessis there a simple way to remove all kde4 packages?10:33
apadoxdwidmann: no I am on different wifi and it works so it has nothing to do with drivers .. something about my router10:34
noaXessi had it only for testing..10:34
dwidmannJampiter: so, "sudo mv $HOME $HOME_backup" failed?10:34
apadoxabout that wireless wired not connecting if you remember10:34
JampiternoaXess: Sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-kde4-desktop10:34
JampiterYeah it did dwidmann10:34
dwidmannJampiter: no, that's only a meta-package10:34
JampiterAh, ok10:34
dwidmannnoaXess: try removing "kdelibs5"10:35
noaXessdwidmann: and kdelibs5-data too?10:36
dwidmannnoaXess: yeah ... but remove those and *most* of kde4 should be gone just like that, I can't promise that that'll get all of it though.10:36
noaXessokay..10:36
noaXessthanks10:37
noaXessbut.. need i remove all kde4 packages if i upgrade from 8.04 to 8.10?10:37
dwidmannnoaXess: no10:37
noaXesscause the current kde4 install is not in the standard place10:37
a_what is the difference between ubuntu and kubuntu?10:37
dwidmannnoaXess: the upgrade process will remove them for you10:37
noaXessaha.. then.. just upgrade..10:37
noaXessdwidmann: have you done it?10:38
dwidmannnoaXess: follow the instructions on kubuntu.org10:38
noaXessjep ok.. i have it10:38
a_is it just different graphics?10:38
Jampitera_: Ubuntu has GNOME, Kubuntu has KDE10:38
JampiterDifferent user environments and included software10:38
ActionParsnipa_: its a different desktop environment10:38
a_ah10:38
ActionParsnipa_: you can run a different window manager on either but kubuntu by default uses kwin and ubuntu uses metacity10:39
JampiterGaaaah!10:40
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JampiterIs there any other way of moving my home folder?10:40
JampiterEverything I try is saying there's a missing operand10:40
dwidmannJampiter: well, you could try manually typing those paths instead of using the variables10:40
ActionParsnipJampiter: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32504810:41
Jampiterhat would they be?10:41
Jampiter*What10:41
dwidmannJampiter: type "ls /home/"10:41
ActionParsnipcouldnt you just mv it to another location then symlink it?10:41
JampiterI have no idea10:41
dwidmannActionParsnip: then all the files would still be accessible, the idea is to force it to regenerate things, and it'll hopefully work then10:42
apadoxhow can I activate Ati driver in kubuntu10:42
Jampiterdwidmann: moving it has worked now - it's now in /homebackup10:42
ActionParsnipdwidmann: oh i see10:42
Dr_willis!ati10:42
ubottuFor Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto10:42
dwidmannJampiter: you weren't supposed to mv /home itself, but /home/yourusername10:42
JampiterYeah, sorry, that's what I've done10:43
dwidmannJampiter: now, mkdir /home/yourusername10:43
JampiterYep10:43
JampiterAnd done the chown thing.. now trying it10:44
dwidmannJampiter: then, chown yourusername:yourusername /home/yourusername10:44
JampiterYep :)10:44
dwidmannall of those command succeeded, no "permission denied" errors, right?10:44
JampiterNo errors10:44
JampiterIt's loading KDE4 now10:44
JampiterNOOO10:45
JampiterIt's still doing it!10:45
dwidmannno?10:45
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JampiterIt's still dumping me on the login screen10:45
dwidmannJampiter: hmm, well it's certainly not a user config issue then ... restore your files back10:45
JampiterI didn't have any to start with :p10:46
JampiterOk10:46
JampiterAny other ideas?10:47
dwidmannhumm, Jampiter, pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file10:47
mkrahmehjampiter..try to symlink your backup folder from /home/username10:47
Jampiterdwidmann: The other comp isn't on the net.. i think it's just what it would be out of the box10:48
JampiterIt's a fresh install and I don't have any graphics acceleration10:48
Jampitermkrahmeh: ?10:48
paddlerHello, anyone know how to print a PDF file from the command line under Intrepid? I used to use 'kprinter' but I wonder if I should now be using something else.10:49
dwidmannJampiter: maybe if you move the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file, to force it to guess things ... yes, why not try that?10:49
JampiterOk10:49
mkrahmehjampiter..its about finding your config files to load at startup10:50
apadoxwhy do I get this when trying to enable ati driver http://paste.ubuntu.com/71778/10:50
mkrahmehthat s what i ve seen10:51
mkrahmehright?10:51
dwidmannpaddler: kprinter is still present, if it works, use it.10:51
JampiterUh.. dwidmann...10:51
JampiterI've done that and I think it's completely broken10:52
JampiterNo graphics are showing up and I have a red line at the top of the screen10:52
paddlerdwidmann: OK, it's just the upgrade from Hardy to Intrepid removed it and I wondered if kprinter was deprecated. I'm happy to re-install and use it though :-) Thanks.10:52
dwidmannJampiter: ah, video issues afterall perhaps ... what video card do you have?10:53
JampiterNone10:53
dwidmannJampiter: fine, then what integrated graphics do you have?10:53
JampiterOnboard I think10:54
JampiterThis computer's a few years old with no graphics acelleration10:54
dwidmannJampiter: that doesn't help ... type in lspci | less10:54
JampiterIt's jsut restarting.. I'm seeing i that'll make it work a bit10:55
ActionParsnipJampiter: lspci | grep -i vga10:55
mkrahmehjampiter...try: lspci | grep -i vga10:55
JampiterHooray! Login screen's appeared so it wan't completely buggered10:55
JampiterOk, it's not letting me type |10:56
dwidmannah yes, I should have mentioned that you need to "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart", or switch back to kdm (ctrl+alt+f7) then either select restart or hit ctrl + alt + bksp10:56
JampiterIt's just making a wierd noise10:56
dwidmannA weird noise eh?10:57
JampiterI'm using failsafe mode - I can't do a console login for some reason10:57
JampiterI press cTRL+ALT+F1 and it locks up10:57
JampiterI think it's the KDE noise for now being able to type something10:58
a_i have a problem with "write permission" on a linux (.run) installer but i have the adminstrator password... how do i continue installation?10:58
lokaidid you use sudo, a_?10:58
a_lokai: no its an automatic installer you just allow it to run and it does its own thing10:59
lokaiare you installing from the command line?10:59
lokaior is it a GUI thing?10:59
Dr_willisa_,  sudo whatever.run10:59
Dr_williswhat is this .run installing anyway?10:59
a_lokai: no it is a single file designed to install itself from withion a terminal, i do nothing just open it and agree the license10:59
Jampiterdwidmann: Done that and now I just have a black screen with a blinking cursor line at the top left corner11:00
dwidmannJampiter: umm, that's not good :\11:00
apadoxwhy do I get this when trying to enable restricted  ati driver http://paste.ubuntu.com/71778/11:00
dwidmannJampiter: I still want to know what the graphics chipset is .... or we won't have much luck helping you11:01
lokaiyeah you need to run it under using sudo. You need to run it from command line using sudo <program>11:01
a_dr willis: it is whee it puts the files in a folder off the desktop i guess11:01
dwidmannJampiter: lscpi | grep VGA11:01
a_lokai: no you dont type in commands for this11:01
Jampiterdwidmann: It's loading up again11:01
a_lokai you double click it...11:01
dwidmannJampiter: unless you told it to boot to "recovery mode" you might not have much luck, if you can't get to a console11:02
lokaia_: I'm telling you need to use the command line to give it the proper privelages. Theres no way around that, I'm fairly confident.11:02
a_lokai: how should i do that?11:02
lokaiopen up konsole11:02
a_lokai: cannot do it in "properties"?11:02
lokaidont think so.11:02
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lokaitype "cd <directory where the thing is saved>"11:03
lokaitype "sudo <program>" or "sudo sh <program>"11:03
Jampiterdwidmann: I've selected the recovery mode fromt he boot menu11:03
a_lets say my user name is a and could you type in the exact line as i should do in the terminal please , lokai11:04
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dwidmannJampiter: you should be able to get  root shell from there11:04
a_lokai for the desktop11:04
JampiterGreat11:04
JampiterWhat should I do now?11:04
dwidmannJampiter: well, lscpi | grep VGA should tell us the graphics chipset11:04
lokaia_: I don't understand that last bit of your statement11:04
Jampiterdwidmann: It's come up with a choice of resume, root or xfix11:05
JampiterIs it root?11:05
a_lokai: the file is on the desktop, user:a file:worldofpadman.run ... what exactly should i say to the terminal?11:05
dwidmannJampiter: yeah, that's the option you want11:05
lokaitype "cd Desktop" to change your working directory to your desktop11:05
a_right11:05
a_done11:05
lokaiNext try "sudo <programname>"11:05
lokaior "sudo sh <programname>"11:06
lokaiif that doesn't work11:06
a_lokai: i did it and entered password it says "command not found"11:06
Jampiterdwidmann: 01:00.0 VGA compatiable controller: Silicon intedrated Systems [SiS] 630/730 PCI/AGP VGA display adapter (rev 31)11:06
a_ah11:06
a_yes its running again11:07
a_@lokai11:07
lokaithere, it should work now. Using 'sudo' gives whatever command you enter after it root rights.11:07
ActionParsniplokai: if its grapical, you'll need kdesudo11:08
a_lokai: yep is going in now11:08
a_thanks11:08
lokaiActionParsnip: Not necessarily11:08
JampiterDoes that mean anything to you dwidmann?11:08
dwidmannJampiter: kinda, I've never actually come across that, only heard of it11:09
lokaia_: Just make sure you know what you're giving root rights to. ;)11:09
JampiterShould I restart?11:10
dwidmannJampiter: mv the xorg.conf file back,11:10
JampiterOk11:10
dwidmannJampiter: then open it with nano11:10
JampiterOk11:12
ActionParsniplokai: yes necessarily, you can ruin file ownerships and permissions with sudo <gui app name>11:13
JampiterNow what?11:13
ActionParsniplokai: sudo doesnt configure the running environment for gui apps and can cause issues11:13
lokaiActionParsnip: Hm. I've been running systemsetting using sudo for the past couple months without issues...11:14
dwidmannJampiter: go down to the device section, there should be a line for "Driver", which one is it?11:14
ActionParsniplokai: ou'll see11:14
ActionParsnip*you'll11:14
JampiterIt says: Identifier              "Configured Video Device"11:15
lokaiActionParsnip: haha, let's hope not ;)11:15
dwidmannJampiter: like I said, the "Driver" line, is the only one i'm really interested in11:16
JampiterThat's all it has11:16
JampiterThat's the only line in Section "Device"11:16
ActionParsniphttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo11:16
ActionParsnipYou should never use normal sudo to start graphical applications as root. You should use gksudo (kdesudo on Kubuntu) to run such programs.  gksudo sets HOME=~root, and copies .Xauthority to a tmp directory. This prevents files in your home directory becoming owned by root. (AFAICT, this is all that's special about the environment of the started process with gksudo vs. sudo).11:17
ActionParsnipfrom the OFFICIAL documentation11:17
dwidmannJampiter: then perhaps we should add a new line for it11:17
ActionParsniplokai: you can technically use kdesudo for cli apps too11:18
JampiterWhat should I put?11:18
bjaimeshola11:18
dwidmannJampiter, it will be this exactly, including quotes: Driver "sis"11:18
JampiterOk11:18
JampiterNow what?11:19
bjaimes#ubunte-es11:19
dwidmannJampiter: now type "exit" and it will either resume automatically or ask if you want to, (resume boot that is), go for it, hopefully it will help.11:19
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JampiterJust type exit?11:19
JampiterI don't know how to use nano11:20
bjaimes#ubuntu_es11:20
ActionParsniphttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-sis/+bug/8237211:20
dwidmannJampiter: oh, wait .. you need to save first11:20
dwidmannJampiter: I think ctrl + x saves11:21
ActionParsnipJampiter: type as you would, when you are finished press ctrl+x then press y to save and press enter to use the same name11:21
* dwidmann isn't very familiar with nano either11:21
* dwidmann likes vim11:21
JampiterSo where do I type exit? just in the main editing box?11:21
dwidmannJampiter: after exiting nano, yes.11:22
ActionParsnipJampiter: type in the file, press ctrl+x to exit, you will be asked (at the bottom) if you wanna save, press y, then press enter to use the same filename11:22
JampiterOh yeah11:22
JampiterResuming boot now11:22
* ActionParsnip loves nano11:23
* Dr_willis pukes on nano. :)11:23
JampiterYES! OH YES!11:24
JampiterYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES!11:24
JampiterKDE4 WORKS!11:24
JampiterIT WORKS!11:24
JampiterThank you :D11:24
Jampiterdwidmann :D11:24
dwidmannYou're welcome :)11:24
dwidmannenjoy11:24
JampiterThanks :D11:24
ActionParsniphehe awesome11:26
ActionParsnipwtg bro11:26
dwidmannOkay, I'd better go to bed before sun starts to get bright, good night all11:26
ActionParsniphaha11:27
ActionParsnippeace11:27
ActionParsnipjust not emacs :(11:28
JampiterCya dwidmann and thanks for the help :D11:28
ActionParsnipJampiter: now get updates and you are away11:29
ActionParsnipso much nicer in here than #ubuntu11:34
SkEmOanyway, time to sleep, g'nite! ç:D11:43
ActionParsnippeace out SkEmO11:45
SkEmOthanks ActionParsnip :D11:45
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walzmynI've managed to get /home full (100%) and it's causeing login problems. I'm looking at it via CLI - how do I delete files in a way that'll reduce the used side of the partition?12:21
noaXess!backup12:21
ubottuThere are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning12:21
walzmynwas that to me?12:22
ActionParsnipwalzmyn: how big is you ~/.mozilla directory?12:23
walzmyni dunna, why?12:24
ActionParsnipwalzmyn: what folder is largest (you may want to show hidden files)12:24
walzmyni'm trying to empty my trash folder12:24
ActionParsnipwalzmyn: temp internet files are stored there which can be purged12:24
ActionParsnip!trash12:24
ubottuThe location of Trash has changed since 8.04, it is now located in ~/.local/share/Trash | Looking for the trash in previous versions: ~/.Trash12:24
walzmyni've already used rm to delete a big file I knew I had, but it didn't reduce the size of the drive12:24
Dr_williswe need a Trash Standard.. :)12:24
walzmynI'm looking at the trash folder, I want to know the CLI command to get rid of the files12:25
Dr_willis!find trash12:25
ActionParsnipcd ~/.local/share/Trash && rm -rf *12:25
Dr_willistheres some trash cli tools also. :)12:25
walzmynI did that on the other file, and it still says /home is 100% full12:26
Dr_willistrash-cli - command line trashcan utility12:26
walzmynok12:26
ActionParsnipwalzmyn: you need to find out which folders are largest and skim them down some12:26
ActionParsnipwalzmyn: try du ~/ | less12:27
walzmynActionParsnip, I have found the folder I wish to removed stuff from. There's 4 or 5 gigs in here12:27
walzmynBut i've already used rm on a folder that had 2 gigs in it and it did not free up any space12:27
Dr_williskde3 had that filesize/foldersize view in Konwueror.. does kde4 have that?12:28
ActionParsnipwalzmyn: then rm files or rm -rf for folders (make sure you want to remove EVERYTHING in that folder as rm -rf recursively deletes everything12:28
Dr_willisrm'd with the gui or command line?12:28
walzmyncommand line12:28
walzmyndf still reports the partition as slap full12:29
walzmyni just wanted to make sure that before I did rm to all of my Trash folder files that they were actually going to reduce the size of the partition12:29
walzmynused size12:29
walzmynok, did it, df reports 99% now12:31
Dr_willisIf you just have a bunch of directories, however, you can easily figure out which ones are largest by giving the correct arguments to “du” and “sort”. Here is how:12:32
Dr_willisdu -sk * | sort +0nr12:32
ActionParsnipwalzmyn: id jst keep rming stuff, or archive your pr0n / images to dvd / whatever if you dont access them12:32
Dr_willisif that works.. heh12:32
Dr_willisi think sort options have changed12:33
walzmynActionParsnip, if i can get back into my primary user i'm going to do all that12:33
walzmyni had to create a new user with it's home in /usr just to get logged in12:33
walzmynThis was a total screw up all the way around12:33
walzmynI backed up linux and went to wipe my drive to dual boot winders12:34
ActionParsnip!adduser12:34
ubottuTo add new users to your Ubuntu system, follow the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddUsersHowto - For administrative privileges, users need to be made members of the group "admin" - See !sudo12:34
walzmynI forgot to unplug the back up drive and windows formatted it12:34
walzmynso, a couple of days ago, I found an application that could recover the files off my backup drive - but the huge dump filled up /home12:35
ActionParsnipwalzmyn: yikes12:35
Dr_willis'user friendly' :P12:35
walzmynyeah, and it's a good thing I live 3k miles from Redmond12:35
ActionParsnipmicrosoft works :)12:35
walzmynfor who?12:36
ActionParsnipbill12:36
walzmynjust as long as you under stand the pecking order...12:36
walzmynI did all this to play a game12:36
walzmynI told my buddies that when we got tired of this one, never ask again, cause i was done with windows12:37
walzmyno...k...12:39
ActionParsnip?12:39
walzmynI just tried to switch user over to my primary and all I got was a konsole window up in the cornor12:39
walzmynmy reaction exactly12:40
ActionParsnipwalzmyn: log offand select session type as kde12:40
walzmynok12:40
walzmynThat was the problem, last time i'd tried to log in i'd used failsafe12:42
walzmynthank you guys. i'm logging out of this account12:42
* walzmyn waves12:42
ActionParsnipok man12:42
ActionParsnippeace12:42
noaXessif i do sudo dd if=/dev/sda of=/media/disk/hercules-image.bin bs=4096 i get dd: writing `/media/disk/hercules-image.bin': File too large after 4.3gb and dd stops12:45
Dr_williswhat filesystem is that disk?12:46
szalpretty self-explanatory..  what size is /dev/hda, and what size is /media/disk?12:46
noaXess/dev/sda is 200gb and /media/disk 500gb..12:46
noaXessthat should not be a problem12:46
noaXessthe 500gb is vfat..12:47
Dr_willisyou are trying to make a 4+gb file on a vfat filesystem?12:47
noaXessok.. i think thats the prob12:47
noaXessjep12:47
noaXess i try12:47
Dr_willisthats the issue..12:47
szalno wonder it doesn't work, FAT32 doesn't cope w/ files larger than 4 GB12:47
Dr_willisthatw why  i asked what filesystem earlier. :P12:47
noaXessou Dr_willis soory.. not seen..12:48
noaXesswhat fs should i make ext2 or ext3 for the 500gb?12:48
courtjestergddoes mozilla plugin work for konqueror?12:49
szalwhat Mozilla plugin?12:49
courtjesterghttp://plugindoc.mozdev.org/linux.html12:49
courtjestergall of them12:49
noaXesscourtjesterg: just try :)12:49
Dr_willisI always use ext312:51
courtjestergwhat internet browser mail client fo you use? If so say i switched to seamonkey suit van i unistall konqueror and kmal and such?12:51
noaXessDr_willis: ok.. just mkfs it12:51
noaXessi want upgrad to 8.10 but first create a backup :)12:51
* Dr_willis rarely bothers to Install anything12:51
courtjestergthe koranganizer is not very organzied lol12:52
noaXessits not an orange :) courtjesterg12:52
courtjesterg?12:53
noaXesskoranganizer -> korganizer12:53
courtjestergohh but they are uninstallable completely unlike in windows where interent exploer is actually built in aand actually still installed12:53
courtjestergwhen you uninstall it12:54
ActionParsnipcourtjesterg: not strictly true12:54
noaXesscourtjesterg: i think you need uninstall the whole kontact suite12:54
ActionParsnipcourtjesterg: IE uses much of the librarys that are used by explorer so IER installs very little12:54
ActionParsnipcourtjesterg: if you completely uninstalled IE for every file then file browsing via gui would be impossile12:55
courtjestergthats why i asked about if konqueror was like interent exploerr is it built in but noticcce doliphine handles what exploer would normally do with right click on start menu12:56
ActionParsnipcourtjesterg: konqueror is file browsing / www, dolphin is only files. you will find konqueror uses many shared libs which will remain12:57
ActionParsnipcourtjesterg: any orphaned libs unused by other apps can be removed with sudo apt-get autoremove12:57
courtjestergok so using another brower makes no sense really and developing konqueror even more to be useful and compatible would be better12:58
ActionParsnipcourtjesterg: you can use any borwser, even IE12:58
courtjestergyeah but i hate having more then one installed its a waste of space. I used in windows firefox cause IE sucks ;)12:59
ActionParsnipcourtjesterg: i use both, IE is actually better than IE in many ways13:00
courtjestergSo let me try and get konqueror up to date and good for browseing13:00
noaXessis there an extra channel for ubuntu MIP/UMPC?13:00
ActionParsnipcourtjesterg: http://home.comcast.net/~SupportCD/FirefoxMyths.html13:00
ActionParsnipcourtjesterg: just to clear up any confusion13:01
courtjestergok thks13:01
* ActionParsnip uses opera mostly13:02
courtjestergohh question before i go and start on my graphics driver again quick question been haveing problem when activating driver 96 with fonts saw alot of info but makes my head spin anyone got a real resolution to fix the font problem caused by this bug?13:02
ActionParsnipcourtjesterg: is it nvidia?13:03
courtjestergyes13:03
ActionParsnipcourtjesterg: can i see your xorg.conf13:04
courtjestergwhen i activate it in hardware drivers my fonts disappear in my applications it is the reccomended and right driver to use but if i go to 177 they reappear13:04
ActionParsnip!paste13:04
ubottupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)13:04
courtjestergsure hang on13:04
ActionParsnip!fonts13:04
ubottuFont installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer13:04
szalcourtjesterg: well, if the 177 works, use that..  no need to use legacy software if it isn't required by anything13:04
szalcourtjesterg: what gfx card are we talking about anyway?13:05
apadoxhow to make taskbar smaller13:05
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courtjesterggeforce3 64 ram on cards yeah i know but it is good haven't activated the driver yet since my reinstall no downloaded x sever13:06
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szalinterestingly, I used to have a GF2 here, at some point replaced it w/ a used FX5900..  in the process I had my father's 5600 for testing purposes, and after installing the then-current driver for that card and replugging the GF2 the latter worked w/o problems13:08
szalthere he goes..13:08
apadoxhow to make autologin13:09
ActionParsnip!autologin13:09
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about autologin13:09
szal@ all: I'm contemplating trying Intrepid on a 2nd machine (as soon as I get it ;)) & wonder if KDE 4.1.x is playing w/o major problems13:10
ActionParsnipapadox: system settings -> advanced -> user manager -> convenience tab13:10
ActionParsnipszal: its not fully polished but its ok13:10
szalfrom what I've heard so far I'm more inclined to wait for 4.2 for a full-blown installation..  so an additional question is whether KDE 3.5 is still available13:11
* szal is currently on openSUSE 11.0 w/ KDE 3.5.1013:11
ActionParsniphttp://forum.kde.org/showthread.php?tid=11996&pid=16199#pid1619913:12
apadoxthx ActionParsnip .... p.s. it is in login manager :)13:14
Walzmynwhy is the bluetooth app open everytime I log in, even though I tell it to go away and not come back?13:14
szalActionParsnip: so, conclusion --> better wait for 4.2 ;)13:14
ActionParsnipapadox: im on my work lappy and have no access to a kde gui ;)13:15
ActionParsnipszal: try it, you can always install another DE13:15
szalanother thing: how slim an install can one produce?  I was thinking in terms of using the altenate install CD to set up a text-only system and then gradually add things from the repos13:16
szalso would there be a way to install only the bare minimum of KDE instead of the full desktop?13:17
ActionParsnipszal: just dont install kubuntu-desktop as you'll get all the gumf you dont want13:18
k0nd0rhow can i install firefox on kubuntu..i downloaded it but its :S only code13:18
ActionParsnipk0nd0r: sudo apt-get install firefox-3.013:19
szalfor a comparison, in openSUSE there is a pattern called 'kde3-basic' that installs only what is needed to fire up X and a KDE desktop w/ as few things as possible13:19
ActionParsnipszal: you got some research to do dude13:19
k0nd0rthanks i ll try it13:19
szalheh13:19
ActionParsnipk0nd0r: most apps are einstalled from repos13:22
k0nd0rrepos = ?13:23
k0nd0rthe command is sudo apt-get install name?13:23
k0nd0rfor .package files?13:23
k0nd0rfile extensions*13:23
courtjestergok hang on13:24
szal.package?13:24
k0nd0ri got aMSN and it has extension .package13:24
k0nd0rsee there...http://www.amsn-project.net/linux-downloads.php13:24
k0nd0ri want to install a client for msn messenger13:25
ActionParsnip!repo13:25
ubottuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories13:25
courtjestergok how do you want me to paste my x.config?13:25
ActionParsnipk0nd0r: sudo apt-get install amsn13:26
ActionParsnipk0nd0r: or replace amsn with pidgin13:26
k0nd0rk0nd0r@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install amsn13:26
k0nd0rReading package lists... Done13:26
k0nd0rBuilding dependency tree13:27
k0nd0rReading state information... Done13:27
courtjestergbeen told not to paste in window so where do i paste13:27
k0nd0rE: Couldn't find package amsn13:27
k0nd0rsorry for flooding13:27
ActionParsnipk0nd0r: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install amsn13:27
szalk0nd0r: have Universe enabled?13:27
k0nd0rfrom where?:P13:27
k0nd0rits downloading somthing;)13:28
szalshould already be in the sources.list, you just need to uncomment it13:28
ActionParsnipk0nd0r: its from the repos13:28
k0nd0ri just installed kubuntu...first time working with linux..thanks..13:28
ActionParsnipk0nd0r: you wont actually download many apps as what you need is in repos13:29
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k0nd0roh..nice..13:29
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ActionParsnip!paste > courtjesterg13:30
ubottucourtjesterg, please see my private message13:30
k0nd0rthanks actionparsnip13:32
k0nd0ri am ok now with amsn;)13:32
ActionParsnipk0nd0r: anytime13:32
ActionParsnipk0nd0r: and cli installs13:33
k0nd0rcli installs?13:33
k0nd0r=?13:33
ActionParsnip!cli13:33
ubottuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal13:33
k0nd0r i ll get a manual for linux:P i ll learn..so that i wont ask all the time:P13:33
courtjesterghttp://paste.ubuntu.com/71844/13:33
ActionParsnipk0nd0r: you have one, man <command you want a manual on>13:34
courtjestergno fonts bug13:34
k0nd0ryes i know that command..13:34
k0nd0rman man:D13:34
ActionParsnipk0nd0r: exactly13:35
k0nd0r!pidgin13:35
ubottuThe Instant Messenger Client Pidgin (formerly Gaim) (http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Pidgin) supports MSN, XMPP (Jabber, GTalk and variants), AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ, YIM, IRC and others. See also !Kopete13:35
k0nd0rah...i know that one:P13:35
ActionParsnip!amsn13:37
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about amsn13:37
ActionParsnip!info amsn13:38
ubottuamsn (source: amsn): An MSN messenger written in Tcl. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.97.2~debian-0ubuntu3 (intrepid), package size 264 kB, installed size 876 kB13:38
ActionParsnipamsn has support for webcams, pidgin doest. pidgin supports multiple protocols, amsn doesnt13:38
ActionParsnipdepends on your needs13:38
szalKopete works fine for MSN13:38
k0nd0rpidgin has also encryption13:38
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ais there a hotkey for show desktop in ubuntu?13:46
k0nd0rit takes alot of time to install firefox or?..:S13:48
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ActionParsnipk0nd0r: shouldnt do, depends on connection speed and how much needs updating to go with it13:55
bibsthadoes kde have a colour picker?13:55
Dr_williskcolorchooser - color chooser and palette editor for KDE 413:56
Dr_willis apt-cache search color13:56
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bibsthaDr_willis: thanks lemme try13:58
DarkTanok, skype thinks i can hear what it has to say....but i can't. using a sound blaster 32 card14:03
DarkTanany ideas?14:03
twylightgood morning14:04
DarkTanmornin'14:04
ActionParsnipgood ol sb32 :)14:09
szalgood ol' ES1371 :)14:10
ActionParsnipyou know it14:12
bodiis there a way to add custom app launchers in kde4 ? (using intrepid)14:13
ActionParsnipbodi: you you mean like katapult?14:13
ActionParsnip!launcher14:13
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about launcher14:13
ActionParsnip!katapult14:13
ubottukatapult is theapplication launcher for KDE, to be used with applications, bookmarks, and Amarok playlists. Once you have installed, hit Alt+f2 -> katapult, then hit Alt+Space, and type what you want.14:13
bodiActionParsnip: ahh, I thought adding icons to the bottom panel was still possible14:14
ActionParsnipbodi: yeah totally14:14
BluesKaj'morning14:14
ActionParsnipbodi: right click and add a widget to run the app14:14
ActionParsnip14:16 here BluesKaj, g'afternoon ;)14:14
bodibut I can only add things like the standard kde menu, or the moon phase widget ( o_O ) ... nothing useful14:14
ActionParsnipbodi: to add to the kde menu run kmenuedit14:15
bodiActionParsnip: no I was trying to add to the standard panel (that includes the time, desktop icons, etc)14:15
k0nd0rHello, you either have JavaScript turned off or an old version of Adobe's Flash Player. Get the latest Flash player.14:15
bodiActionParsnip: so I open the Add Widgets dialog, search for konsole ... nothing comes up14:16
k0nd0ri did..sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree14:16
k0nd0rDownload done.14:16
bdgraueActionParsnip: he want to add an application launcher (some of his favorite apps ) to the panel14:16
k0nd0rFlash Plugin installed.14:16
ActionParsnipk0nd0r: are you running 64bit ir 32bit?14:16
bodiActionParsnip: then I look into Utilities ... nothing as well14:16
mercutio22the windows partitioner deleted all my partitions!!! Testdisk found all of them but I am not sure how to recover them. Can someone help me out? http://www.pastebin.ca/125614414:16
apadox_how to make taskbar smaller14:17
ActionParsnipbodi: i dont know about those, i dont use kwin14:17
k0nd0roh...its ok now...14:17
k0nd0r64 bit..14:17
ActionParsnipk0nd0r: ok cool14:17
bodiActionParsnip: ah I see. thanks14:17
ActionParsnipk0nd0r: if its ok then cool :)14:17
k0nd0rbut I opened it from konqueror:P14:17
k0nd0rfrom ff its ok:P14:17
patriciaola14:18
ActionParsnipk0nd0r: try sudo apt-get install nsplauginwrapper && nspluginwrapper -i /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so14:18
patriciaque es esto?14:18
ActionParsnipk0nd0r: if you get no flash, use that14:18
twylight!es14:18
ubottuEn la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.14:18
mercutio22I am desperate here14:19
mercutio22please help me out14:19
twylightwhat's the problem, mercutio2214:19
k0nd0rfrom firefox i get flash but from conqueror no...i use ff so no prob:P ..ah...where can i find all the program list that i can install with sudo apt-get install ...[name]14:19
ActionParsnipk0nd0r: apt-cache search <something>14:20
bdgrauek0nd0r: try adept manager14:20
ActionParsnipk0nd0r: or use a gui app like synaptic / adept which will let you search with a (slow) gui14:20
k0nd0rE: Couldn't find package nsplauginwrapper14:20
k0nd0rplugin?:P14:21
ActionParsnipyep, delete the a character14:21
ActionParsnip:)14:21
k0nd0ro14:21
k0nd0r:P14:21
k0nd0ryeye..14:21
ActionParsnipsp14:21
k0nd0rthanks14:21
k0nd0rnspluginwrapper is already the newest version.14:22
k0nd0r;)14:22
ActionParsnipok then the command will now run and flash will be ok14:22
twylightlet's play the highest uptime game14:22
geniiI think you want konqueror-nsplugins   or konqueror-nsplugins-kde414:23
geniitwylight:  9:23AM  up 472 days, 16:26, 6 users, load averages: 0.03, 0.11, 0.0614:24
twylightover a year wow14:24
ActionParsniptwylight: not bad man14:24
twylighthaha no, my uptime is less than 24 hours at this point14:25
twylightthis is a fresh install14:25
apadox_how can i set size of panels14:25
mercutio22twylight, I lost all my partitions14:26
mercutio22twylight, I can see and access them with testdisk14:26
mercutio22twylight, I just don't know how to recover them14:26
BluesKaj!grub | mercutio2214:26
ubottumercutio22: GRUB is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - GRUB how-tos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto14:26
mercutio22BluesKaj, its not a grub problem14:27
twylightpartition stuff is lost on me14:27
mercutio22http://www.pastebin.ca/125614414:27
ActionParsniptwylight: its simple dude14:27
DarkTanok, skype thinks i can hear what it has to say....but i can't. using a sound blaster 32 card14:28
DarkTanany ideas?14:28
BluesKaj!gparted | mercutio2214:28
ubottumercutio22: gparted is a !GUI partitioning program. Type « sudo apt-get install gparted » in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php14:28
mercutio22BluesKaj, http://www.pastebin.ca/125614414:28
BluesKajyeah i saw your partitions , you may have to activate them again14:28
mercutio22BluesKaj, do you know how to ?14:29
BluesKajit happened to me with a windows partition once , but I used gparted to reactivate it , or ultimate boot disk might work too14:30
khakanecould someone help me out? running Hardy Kubuntu, i plug an USB drive in machine, and the device does not show  up in dolphin anymore.  worked fine for months..  when i plugin i DO get a /dev/sd* assignment, but wont show up in dolphin  places14:30
BluesKajkhakane: does it show up in konq ?14:31
mercutio22BluesKaj, gparted just shows one big unallocated space14:31
khakanei dont have konq installed14:31
khakaneno idea14:31
BluesKajkonqueror that is14:32
khakaneya i get what you're saying, and no i dont have it installed14:32
khakanethat program sucks heh14:32
BluesKajtoo bad , I fing konq quite useful14:32
BluesKajfind14:33
Dr_williskhakane,  try mounting it manually?14:33
khakanei can mount it manually no problem14:33
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Dr_willischeck fstab. make sure theres not an ectra entry for  /dev/sda or sdb or somthing similer.14:34
Dr_willisI did a usb thumbdrive install and noticed that my first thumbdrive wouldent mount afterwards.. butr the 2nd i plugged in did. :)14:35
Dr_willishad a 'cdrom' entry pointing to /dev/sda14:35
khakaneive got 2 devices plugged in atm14:35
khakaneneither one are showing up, and one is assigned /dev/sde which ive never used before14:35
mercutio22j #testdisk14:36
BluesKajmercutio22:  what testdisk ?14:37
mercutio22BluesKaj, its a program that recovers partitions and data14:37
mercutio22BluesKaj, I can't find anyone experienced with it though14:38
BluesKajnever used it14:38
ActionParsnipmercutio22: if the data has been written over, its gone14:38
twylight!testdisk14:39
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about testdisk14:39
twylightepic fail14:39
ActionParsnipmercutio22: otherwise you can create an image of the partition with dd_rescue and get the data from the image it creates14:39
ActionParsnipmercutio22: after you have fsck'd it14:39
ActionParsnipmercutio22: you really should have a backup of your data, but i guess you learned the hardest way14:39
szal!info testdisk14:39
ubottutestdisk (source: testdisk): Partition scanner and disk recovery tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 6.9-1.1 (intrepid), package size 1196 kB, installed size 3768 kB14:39
khakaneguh i wish i could find someone who actually knew the backend of linux to help explain why this isnt working14:40
ActionParsnipkhakane: try #gentoo14:40
ActionParsnip!info dd_resuce14:40
ubottuPackage dd_resuce does not exist in intrepid14:40
ActionParsnip!info dd_rescue14:40
ubottuPackage dd_rescue does not exist in intrepid14:40
ActionParsnipgah14:40
khakanethey will just tell me to join #ubuntu14:40
khakaneand then they will tell me to join #kubuntu14:41
khakaneand then im right back here bouncing ideas off the wall14:41
k0nd0rbye all....14:41
k0nd0rthanks for helping me14:41
k0nd0rcya14:41
mercutio22ActionParsnip, I am not sure its writen I think I just lost the partition table14:41
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mercutio22ActionParsnip, ubuntu is backed up alright, I just don't wanna reinstall windows and all the games]14:42
geniimercutio22: There seems a fairly comprehensive site here about testdisk : http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk_Step_By_Step14:42
mercutio22genii, know, but I can't comprehend it very well thats why I am seeking help14:43
ActionParsnipmercutio22: you'd only restore the data you need, not the whole thing14:43
mercutio22ActionParsnip, but everything seems to be there14:43
courtjestergsee this is where i get confused i uninstall my graphics driver 96 the severx and hardware drivers of couarse i didn't restart nort stupid lol, but say if i reinstalled hardware drivers it will reccomend 96 and want me to activate it and x.server always say i use 96 version even if i download 71 or 173 or 177 so is it not just displaying correctly in the x server if i used another driver besides 96? Cause i know fonts work on 17314:44
courtjestergand 177 dunno about 71 even envy say 71 would work but recoomends 9614:44
Kubuntuuuuuudoes anyone know how to solve the "no sound" issue on ubuntu ?14:44
ActionParsnipmercutio22: then you dont need any data recovery if its all there14:44
courtjesterghardware driver and x server never displays any other driver i use besides 9614:45
mercutio22ActionParsnip, what I need is to recover my partition table properly14:45
courtjesterg96 is always in there application even if i uninstalled 96 and used say 17314:45
ActionParsnipmercutio22: then i have no idea, id personally wipe it and restore so you know its good14:45
geniimercutio22: What was the thing you did which erased it? (if you know)14:45
ActionParsnipmercutio22: an fsck may help14:45
ActionParsnip!nosound | Kubuntuuuuuu14:46
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about nosound14:46
ActionParsnipKubuntuuuuuu: run lspci and you will see your soundcard in the list,, you can websearch from there14:46
geniilspci -nn     is very useful because it gives vendor:device  code14:47
khakanecould someone help me out? running Hardy Kubuntu, i plug an USB drive in machine, and the device does not show   up in dolphin anymore.  worked fine for months..  when i plugin i DO get a /dev/sd* assignment, but wont show up  in dolphin  places14:47
twylightguys14:47
mercutio22ActionParsnip, the problem is fsck wont work on ntfs right?14:48
BluesKajKubuntuuuuuu: open alsamixer in the terminal and make sure all volctrls are up to 70 or so , any higher will cause distortion.Use the arrow keys and make sure mute (mm) is off on all ctrls that you plan to use14:48
twylightdoes anyone else have cmatrix installed?14:48
courtjestergi have build in amd sound and creative auidy i used my amd and set the preffer to it14:48
mercutio22genii, I deleted the dell recovery partition from the vista partitioner, and it messed up everything else in the morning14:48
mercutio22genii, I suspect the data is intact though14:48
courtjestergalso in kmixxer  edit channels click on pc speaker so it shows up and make sure it isnt muted cause default it is muted14:48
BluesKajKubuntuuuuuu: unmute by using the "m" key14:49
geniimercutio22: If the numbers given there in your paste from testdisk are exactly accurate you could use (linux) fdisk on commandline to just reinstate the partitions. It will not want to format them like gparted or so14:50
courtjestergkhakane i have the same problem i have 2.0 usb ports even in windows for some odd reason they stoped working after a time dunno why even went out and bought a pci slot usb card14:50
KubuntuuuuuuBluesKaj: all of those are up ..14:50
Kubuntuuuuuuno sound still14:50
ActionParsnipmercutio22: boot to bartpe and scandisk14:50
courtjestergsome usb still work dunno whats up wwith that14:50
khakanemy ports work fine14:50
twylighthooray for usb 3.014:51
courtjestergyeah my ports say they work fine my bios has plug and play enable but some usb devices don't work14:51
courtjestergeven in windows it all odd14:51
courtjestergwhen i was using them14:52
khakanewell all of devices and ports work14:52
khakaneno problems there14:52
BluesKajKubuntuuuuuu: all have "00" in the box at the bottom ?14:52
khakanejust nothing is notifying dolphin a device was plugged in14:52
egonwI have the problem with Kubuntu intrepid that all windows automatically maximize... already mv .kde into .kde.old, checked kwin to be used, but problem remains... suggestions?14:52
KubuntuuuuuuBluesKaj: no it's around 70 as you told me to14:52
twylight!d3lphin | programs that should not have replaced konqueror:14:53
ubottuprograms that should not have replaced konqueror:: Dolphin, or more properly D3lphin, is the new default file manager for Kubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon. If you would like to make Konqueror your default file manager again, go to Konqueror - Settings menu - Configure Konqueror - File Associations and change the association for inode/directory and inode/system_directory to Konqueror at the top rather than Dolphin.14:53
ubuntu_Sysinfo for 'ubuntu': Linux 2.6.27-7-generic running KDE 4.1.2 (KDE 4.1.2), CPU: Intel(R)CeleronCPU1100MHz at 1102 MHz (2205 bogomips), HD: 1/1GB, RAM: 488/494MB, 114 proc's, 29.44min up14:53
ubuntu_sysinfo14:53
khakanewow how can you call dolphin bad14:53
khakaneyou guys like browsing files with a bloated web browser?14:53
BluesKajKubuntuuuuuu: at the bottom of the slider ctrl there a small box which either has an M in it or 00 , make sure the box shows 00.14:53
twylightI simply dislike dolphin14:54
khakanei have a few issues with it, but its linux14:54
khakanethere are issues with *14:54
twylightand if you have issues, find a workaround14:54
twylightmy workaround was going back to konqueror14:54
khakanewhy you think im in here asking questions?14:54
khakanehah14:54
ActionParsniptwylight: you could try thunar14:55
ActionParsniptwylight: or rox14:55
twylightI prefer konqueror14:55
ActionParsniptwylight: then use it14:55
twylightit's served me well for over two years14:55
manuel_hi14:55
ActionParsniptwylight: sounds like me and kde14:56
geniimercutio22: I would suggest to boot to livecd and use fdisk from inside Konsole from there. This way you can be here also for guidance14:56
manuel_wie kann ich in der shell alle verzeichnisse und unterverzeichnise auflisten lassen ? und wie sieht der befehl für nur Dateien aus?14:56
manuel_danke14:56
ActionParsnip!de | manuel_14:56
ubottumanuel_: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de14:56
khakaneok my devices work fine in thunar14:58
khakaneso this is obviously some problem in dolphin14:58
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ActionParsnipkhakane: thunar is pretty nice14:58
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khakaneyea and it seems its not single-click by default14:58
khakanecouldnt STAND that about dolphin14:59
ActionParsnipkhakane: i use cli for file management14:59
twylightoh man14:59
twylightone time I was playing around as root14:59
twylightand I chmodded chmod to 55515:00
khakaneActionParsnip: i normally do, but there are times when i plugin USB device, and i dont feel like tailing a log to see what device name it was given15:00
apadoxhow to se global shortcuts?15:00
khakanewhen i could just 2x click it in filemanager and get a mount15:00
apadoxset*15:00
khakaneOMG check this15:00
khakaneafter installing thunar, dolphin works15:00
ActionParsnipkhakane: then add an entry in fstab and it'll always mount the same :)15:01
ActionParsnipkhakane: weird15:01
khakaneActionParsnip: i plug in different drives every time, that would be a MESS lol15:01
ActionParsnipkhakane: thats how I roll15:01
khakanei never plug the same drive in twice15:01
khakanei do manual hand cleaning of windows machines in my linux15:02
ActionParsnipor just type mount with no params and it'll show whats mounted ;)15:02
geniikhakane: Thats why you use UUID and not /dev/sdX names in the fstab. Then you plug in any number of drives15:02
khakanegenii: im talkin, 1000s of devices15:02
khakanethere is no way im making fstab entries for them when i will never plug them in again15:02
apadoxhow to set global shortcuts? and can I automount ntfs volumes on login15:02
geniikhakane: There are bullions of UUID :)15:02
genii*billions15:02
khakanesure but why bother with them if im only ever gonna use it once?15:02
apadoxanyone?15:05
geniikhakane: Because what happens: You plug HD1 in. It takes /dev/sdd (for instance). You unplug. Plug in HD2. Even now that HD1 is not there a spot is reserved for it of /dev/sdd and then HD2 needs to become /dev/sde   and so on15:05
apadoxwhen i google it it only looks for konqueror shortcuts15:05
twylightglobal shortcuts?15:06
twylightyou mean like hotkeys?15:06
apadoxyes15:07
twylightgo into system settings15:07
apadoxand ...15:07
twylightsee the keyboard icon?15:07
twylightclick that15:07
apadoxthx15:07
twylightno prob15:08
khakanegenii: thats not true15:08
twylightwhat is this desktop effects foolishness15:08
khakanei can unplug drives and plug new ones in and still get /dev/sdd or whatever the first one was15:09
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RiddellJohnFlux: you moved kformula to kdelibs?15:10
khakanegenii: if you are getting those, maybe you should stop using UUIDs :)15:11
RiddellJohnFlux: there's a load of icons that need put into kdebase-runtime (using the oxygen namespace preferably), icons shouldn't be in kdelibs15:11
twylightam I the only one here that obsessively runs fortune when bored15:12
egonwI have the problem with Kubuntu intrepid that all windows automatically maximize... already mv .kde into .kde.old, checked kwin to be used, but problem remains... suggestions?15:14
courtjestergcall me nuts but i installed the gnome hardware driver this in return when i thought it would install like the kde hardware driver it installed actually the synaptic package manager now when i opened it to my surprise it says i  have stuff installed of which would show up in adept was uninstalled also shows lots of other graphics drivers for 96 version15:18
courtjestergany insight on this?15:18
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BluesKajcourtjesterg:  perhaps you could rephrase so the rest od us can understand what you mean15:19
BluesKajof15:19
twylighthave you taken any mind altering drugs recently?15:19
courtjestergi unstalled stuff like envy and such the hardware driver app x server and 96 then i installed the gnome hardware driver app in adept15:20
Riddellegonw: try moving /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kde4-profile/default/share/config/kwinrulesrc and ~/.kde/share/config/kwinrulesrc out the way15:20
courtjestergi thought it was going to install another program looking like the kde hardware driver app in adept15:21
courtjesterginstead install the synaptic package manager which shows more drivers especially for 9615:21
twylightI think I broke the package manager again15:21
courtjestergalso shows the stuff i uninstalled in adept is currently installed15:21
dennistergenii: r u available at all, or lurking?15:22
courtjestergdoes it have to do with the fact maybe i need to restart but not doing that cause i uninstall my graphics in adept and have done that before nothing would show on screen wheni reboot15:22
geniidennister: I'm around casually for small help. But work needs me a lot today so I'm avoiding marathon sessions15:23
BluesKajcourtjesterg: i used this page to guide me thru editing xorg in order to get my ati card running 3D and DRI http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Intrepid_Installation_Guide15:23
courtjestergi am not using ati but nvidia15:24
BluesKajcourtjesterg: maybe there's an equivalent for your graphics15:24
egonwRiddell: no, that does not help :(15:25
telmessosHi all. I just installed Kubuntu's latest version. I want to enable the USB wireless device. Anyone can help me to do it? When I enter lsusb command I get a result of http://paste.ubuntu.com/71884/15:25
telmessoshow can I make it run???15:25
BluesKajcourtjesterg: you have to do some google-linux searching to find the how to's specific to your situation15:25
BluesKajhi dennister  : )15:27
telmessosnoone can help ???15:27
dennisterBluesKaj: hi back :)15:28
dennistercan't stay long today, leaving in an hour15:28
egonwRiddell: tried rm -Rf .kde a couple of times now... and removed the kwinrulesrc and kwinrc from kubuntu-default-settings15:28
BluesKajcourtjesterg:  if you decide to use an open source driver make sure you remove the proprietary driver first, otherwise the proprietary will be the default even if both drivers are installed15:28
testiI use Intrepid, I installed gtk-qt-engine-kde4 and gtk applications now have my kde-4 style, however fonts are way too big and I'd like to change this, but my changes in system settings are ignored.15:29
testiOh, now they're no longer ignored though I restarted firefox several times15:30
telmessosit is great to be ignored by everybody :D thanks all15:30
BluesKaj!ndiswrapper | telmessos15:31
ubottutelmessos: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs15:31
telmessosBluesKaj: do I have to install ndiswrapper?15:31
SkEmOtelmessos: im sorry i dont know how to do it15:31
telmessosSkEmO: anyway thanks mate. ;)15:32
BluesKajtelmessos:  only if your device isn't supported , but I'm not a wireless user so that's all i can tell you15:32
telmessosBluesKaj: normally if a device is not supported is shouldn't be listed on the lsusb command. am i right?15:33
geniitelmessos: The Airnet AWU154 requires ndiswrapper15:34
daniilhello15:34
BluesKajlsusb lists what is plugged in if it's recognized , support is another matter15:34
daniilcan i ask a question ?15:35
telmessosBluesKaj: thanks.15:35
telmessosI'll try to install ndiswrapper15:35
daniilwhat is the command in kubuntu to check how my HDD is parted15:35
geniidaniil: sudo fdisk -l15:35
daniiloki - i try =)15:36
daniilthanks - and how to check which one is primary and wich is logical ?15:36
daniilgoogled a bit but almost all man's pages start with partitioning during the installation process and i have a need to check it on already  installed system15:38
BluesKaj!gparted | daniil15:39
ubottudaniil: gparted is a !GUI partitioning program. Type « sudo apt-get install gparted » in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php15:39
daniilwell that's a sollution - i just thougth there was a way to do it just in the console15:39
daniilwell - about gparted - i am on kubuntu 8.10 and with repositories tuned to archieve.ubuntu  and i says that such pakage is not found15:41
daniil=(15:41
daniilwell i guess it was me doing smth stoopid - i realized what to do now - thanks15:46
BluesKajdaniil:  open adept and make sure third part software sources are enabled15:47
zerotolerancehow do i install firefox in kubuntu?15:47
zerotolerancei have downloaded the tar but do not know where to extract it15:48
khakaneapt-get install firefox ?15:48
daniiloh well - i guess in reality i did some typing error , so now i installed that by adept. thanks anyway =)15:48
khakanemozilla-firefox15:48
zerotoleranceill try it as soon as i get all the updates done15:49
zerotolerancedidnt relize it was downloadong updates15:49
zerotolerancei was using ubunut 8.04 for the first time15:49
zerotoleranceand decided to try kubunutu 8.1015:50
zerotoleranceim a noob tolinux but am ready tolearn it15:50
khakanei havent upgraded to II yet15:50
daniilwell actually gparted don't show exactly primary or logical the partition is. heheh15:50
khakanetoo many issues15:50
zerotolerancereally?15:50
zerotolerancei have a dell mini running 8.04 should i leave it onthere?15:50
telmessoshi all is there a place where I can download the ndiswrapper apt package as a file and install it to a computer.15:52
legodude_anyone familiar with debugging udev?15:53
daniilyeah15:53
legodude_so15:53
legodude_I have a rule that I think should work15:53
legodude_except that it doesn't15:53
daniil| zerotollerance   - leave 8.0415:54
daniilno no sorry15:54
legodude_is there any way to debug it?15:54
daniili don't know how to do it =)15:54
legodude_ah15:54
courtjestergwhich java is everyone using? sun blackdown or ibm jre?15:54
BluesKajtelmessos: it should be in adept15:54
courtjestergi can't find the blackdown plug in that would work with konqueror properly15:55
egonwRiddell: all info I can find it this line in .xsession-errors: kwin: X Error (error: <unknown>[DAMAGE+0], request: XDamageDestroy[DAMAGE+2], resource: 0x1400eb4)15:55
daniil: <courtjesterg>  - try sun15:55
wirechieflegodude maybe man udev might help u15:55
egonwRiddell: can that be the problem? I bug in the ATI driver or so?15:55
courtjestergno sun doesn't work properly in konqueror15:55
courtjestergblackdown would15:55
courtjestergso does anyone know a good link to get it from15:55
courtjestergcause blackdown.org is down i beleive15:56
daniilhmm stupid question - i just installed Ubuntu server (to have PAE in the kernel ) . and now i what to have kubuntu - should i run somth like sudo apt-get install kde4?15:57
courtjestergi really hate this chat room when need help and try to get help never actually get help its a bullshit chat room i never actually get anything fix or done with any help here why do i even bother coming to this chat room  grrrrrrrrrrrrrr15:58
BluesKajdaniil: install kubuntu-desktop15:58
daniilthanxx =)15:58
daniili.e. - apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ?15:59
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BluesKajyeah use sudo15:59
Riddellegonw: I wouldn't have thought so15:59
daniiloki15:59
daniilsure thing =)15:59
daniilwell it is really funny - on my new HP Pavillion dv7 i can't install XP (even after merging with nLite the needed driver for the chipset, still get the blue screen of death) but ubuntu have no problem16:03
legodude_yup16:03
legodude_same with my new laptop16:03
legodude_XP just bluescreens on load from cd16:03
BluesKajdaniil:  do you still have vista on it?16:04
TheFuzzballHow do I make and mount an EXT4 Filesystem?16:05
TheFuzzballI'm running 8.10 btw16:05
daniilyeah16:05
daniili stiil have16:05
daniili just leave it unti i try to boot xp once more16:05
daniilor for gaming16:05
BluesKajthat's why , xp isn't allowed :)16:06
daniilwell16:06
daniili think16:06
geniiTheFuzzball: ext4 is not yet supported16:06
daniilthere might be some hardware trick that hp was forced to put because of th MS request16:06
daniili heard some stories about that16:06
daniilbut16:07
daniilactually they say - if you buy on with vista ultimate pro16:07
legodude_daniil: you mean to block XP?16:07
TheFuzzballI'm building an LFS system based on it, but I can't do that if I can't make it in the first place16:07
daniilyou can have the option for downgrade16:07
daniilyeah16:07
legodude_no16:07
sorush4_hi16:07
sorush4_hi16:07
legodude_I can't believe that16:07
sorush4_!ie4linux16:07
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about ie4linux16:07
daniilwell i just heard =)16:07
legodude_makes no sense16:08
daniiland - look - i got a legal XP dictrib , put all drivers inside via nLITE (drivers from the HP site)16:08
daniiland still - no XP16:08
daniilsure makes no sense16:08
daniilbut that's the brutal truth16:08
daniil=)16:08
wirechiefprobably needs proprietary drivers from hp16:09
geniiTheFuzzball: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-discuss/2008-August/005161.html for why it's not in 8.10    . If you are set on having it, perhaps download it from kernel.org or debian unstable/testing and compile16:10
daniilwell - i got them from HP =)16:10
wirechiefthe hd drivers too ?16:10
daniilthere were already SATA drivers in the distriv16:11
daniilthere were already SATA drivers in the distrib16:11
daniilsince - well , my older dell latop with sata runs fine with this disk16:11
daniil...i think =)16:11
wirechiefwell i dunno, but i do know that with lenovo you need specific model drivers from their website to make vista or xp and each is different16:12
sorush4_hi anyone here used ie4linux on interpid?16:12
daniilany way, i guess you are right - i just have to incorporate all drivers and them try once more, but for now , i am fine with kubuntu16:12
wirechiefyeah, i really like kubuntu 8.04 and would try 8.10 but have to download at night because of my stupid FAP16:13
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Tupac_Shakurhi16:14
lolrenhi16:17
Tupac_Shakurre16:17
lolrenall using ubuntu:-/16:17
lolren:?16:17
lolren:D16:17
lolrencools16:17
lolren;d16:17
Tupac_Shakurnop :)16:17
genii!enter16:17
ubottuPlease try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!16:17
LjLlolren: don't do that. thanks.16:18
jhutchins_wklolren: No, I have a kubuntu system in an office I never go to any more.16:18
lolren:)16:18
jhutchins_wkI run Mandriva on my home desktop and work laptop, build and manage servers using CentOS4, and my home server runs debian and ltsp for my wife's diskless desktop.  The office runs some ancient Gentoo boxes I was supposed to replace, but just when I convinced them to buy new hardware I got a full-time job, so it never happend.16:20
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lolrenuau16:20
lolren:D16:20
lolrenbut still linux16:20
lolren:)16:20
jhutchins_wkYep, nothin' but linux for about six years now.16:20
lolrenmoa16:21
lolren:)16:21
lolrenme 2 i hope16:21
lolren:)16:21
lolrenmai is altii din romania?16:22
lolren:016:22
lolren:-/16:22
genii!ro16:22
ubottuDaca doriti ajutor sau doriti sa discutati despre Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Xubuntu, intrati pe #ubuntu-ro16:22
lolren:)16:23
lolrenms genii16:23
* legodude_ hates udev16:25
daniillinux rulezz - my main job is research in the Chemical Physics field16:32
daniiland well i was not so concerned about the IT stuff and so on16:32
daniilbut just about a year ago i tried first at my home and right after at work kubuntu16:33
daniiland now each time i reallly need to work on windows i feel kind of frusttrated16:33
daniilLinux makes feel hmmm well difficult to say but overall much better16:34
geniidaniil: Do you currently have problem with Kubuntu that requires assistance?16:34
daniilsorry for the offtopic16:34
binMonkeyhi, guys.16:34
binMonkeyis there any way to make the panel autohide in kde4?16:35
jussi01no16:35
daniilno now16:35
binMonkeymaybe later?16:35
daniilthis should be implemented in 4.216:35
daniil=)16:35
binMonkeyok.  thanks.16:35
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daniilwell i've go a quiestion after all16:42
geniiGo for it :)16:42
daniili install kubuntu-desktop , and everything seems to be fine. but now i continues to perform something like - Reloading system log daemon16:43
daniiland it repeated that already twice16:43
geniidaniil: Possibly your /var is full, or else it's just rotating the logs right now16:43
daniilwell - i guess the second since i 've 60 giga for the / partition16:44
geniiIf it's the rotating, might be a clue that there is a lot being logged and maybe look at them16:44
daniilah - now i see , it is just a strange bug - in fact in made it once, but the second line after was already the user@machine: but instead of displaing the name it just showed me the previous line -, i.e. Reloading system log daemon/ as soon as i pressed arrow down, it reduced the string to reloading syste / as soon i pressed enter i displayed the normal : user@machine:16:47
daniilso nothing special after all - some times it is funny just to see the command line to monitor the Ubutu AI =)) hhehe16:48
binMonkeyi'm sorry for another question.  how do i get the plasmoid back that shows files i have in my desktop?16:49
daniiljust add - it is a folder view plasmoid i guess16:50
daniil=)16:50
ubuntuhi people, i am trying to install kubuntu 8.10 but when i click on the icon install nothing happends16:50
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daniiltry to reboot and install just from the menu without launching16:50
daniilthe kubuntu16:51
daniilif doesn't help16:51
maroeyeah thats what i did16:51
leeGood day or evenin which ever may be the case :) ok thi is my question...Is there a way to take an ISO and well basically instead of using DVD roms Use a HDD instead to install them to a primary HDD , I know it sounds kind of corney but, I need to conserve DVDs16:51
maroeno it seems i am on the live version16:51
daniilhmmm...strange16:51
maroeyes it is16:51
daniilcheck the disk for consistency16:51
leehm did you do a media check?16:51
maroeyeah i will brb16:51
daniilmaybe you'll have to reburn16:51
maroeyeah maybe brb laters16:51
maroethanks everybody16:52
daniiltell us how it went16:52
daniil=)16:52
leein other words can I reverse engineer the disk to wirk from a HDD rather then a rom16:53
daniil| lee : well maybe with WUBI ?16:53
leeahh waht is WUBI?16:53
daniilwubi is a windows installer for UBUNTU16:53
daniil=_16:53
theseusHi, I've a problem with my kde4 effects. I have Kubuntu 8.10 installes (64 bit) and a nvidia card with nonfree drivers (and 3d). My installation is an upgrade from 8.04. Nearly all effects are working but if i press "alt + tab" I cannot see any effects also not if I have activated them in systemsettings16:53
daniilcheck the wiki16:53
leeI also have a disk that is live and has no install feature and verry much would like to get that up and running :(16:54
leeEh Isearched till 2 am in the morning lol16:54
daniil?? well liveCD should give you the possibility to install16:54
leehmm is it hidden?16:55
daniilso - just check the CD for consistency and if it fails burn another one16:55
leeits the disk called ArtistX16:55
daniil&16:55
daniil?16:55
daniileh ?16:55
daniilwhat's that16:55
leethe person made am immage with out an install feature16:55
leeits a disk that has variouse audio and vdeo editing software on it16:55
daniilwell - you just need to burn a normal one16:55
daniilinstall and if you need  - just use that artistX disk as a local repository16:56
daniilso you could  use all that stuff16:56
leeah ok..hmm..its a debian based disk16:56
daniilwell then just donwload the packages16:57
leeI was trying to figure out how to net install that16:57
leeahh ok16:57
leewaht pacakges would I be looking for?16:57
daniilwell  - look. on the disk AristX - there should be all that programs what you need16:57
leethe persondid alow a back door accress to be able to change the password so we can become root to that16:57
daniiljust install normally ubuntu16:58
daniiland after that16:58
leeok I have ubuntu already installed16:58
daniiljust check the repositories, might be that those programs are in the official mirrors16:58
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leeah ok16:58
daniilas usual16:59
leeHow many ways are there to make a live DVD?16:59
daniilsudo apt-cache search16:59
daniiloh - u guess a lot16:59
daniili am not an expert though16:59
leeahh16:59
daniilbut check wiki16:59
leeok16:59
daniilthis question for sure is regarded16:59
daniili mean for _SURE_17:00
daniil=)_17:00
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leeahh coolio, well I think its a god thing to learn because there might be a distro one wants to try but not  use up so many cootin picking DVDs lol17:00
lee*good17:01
leewell of to the wikis17:01
leeI guess waht I was trying to say is if the made a Bootable DVD thre needs to be a way to reverse that to made it where you can have a bootable drive lol17:02
slinxhello17:02
slinxnoob questions, how i change wallpaper lol17:02
daniilok - good for you =)17:02
jussi01slinx: which version of kubuntu?17:02
slinx8.1017:02
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jussi01slinx: right click the desktop, desktop settings17:03
slinxok i tryed right clicking desktop before didnt work at all lol, thanks for help:D17:03
villoni!fr17:05
ubottuCe canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr17:05
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* BluesKaj waits for 8.10 to dev a srnsaver app that links to jpegs in the pictures folder...is that too much to ask ? :(17:05
BluesKaj!screensaver17:05
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about screensaver17:05
BluesKaj!info screensaver17:06
ubottuPackage screensaver does not exist in intrepid17:06
genii!info kscreensaver17:07
ubottukscreensaver (source: kdeartwork): Additional screensavers released with KDE 4. In component main, is optional. Version 4:4.1.2-0ubuntu2 (intrepid), package size 671 kB, installed size 1552 kB17:07
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BluesKajgenii:  I'd just like to use the pictures folder as a scrnsvr , but there's no option for that17:09
BluesKajin 8.1017:09
geniiBluesKaj: Compiz?17:13
leehmm17:18
binMonkeydo you guys mind a little off topic post?  i just saw the funniest video.17:19
legodude_do it binMonkey17:20
legodude_as long as it is family17:20
binMonkeyw00t!  http://vimeo.com/21789317:21
binMonkeyfamily friendly i promise.17:21
legodude_kids are pretty amazing17:21
jussi01binMonkey: next time please use #kubuntu-offtopic :)17:22
BluesKajgenii:  no compiz17:22
kullehi there.. is it possible to disable the popups in kopete when a contact person logs on?17:22
binMonkeyjussi01: sorry.17:23
courtjestergso how come the adept package manager haas a firefox version for linux version 3.03 and when you go to the mozilla site there version is 3.0.4?17:26
kullesimple, it just haven't been updated yet17:27
courtjesterghttp://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/17:27
bluecopperafternoon17:27
bluecopperi have a e-systems laptop that is havein a little trouble17:28
bluecopperthe wireless adapter is moving a bit scetchy17:28
bluecopperi ran lspci to get the type of wireless adapter but it doesnt come up in the list17:29
bluecopperthe lan card shows up tho17:29
geniibluecopper: try lsusb17:29
bluecopperok it realtek RTL8187b any driver updates available17:32
geniibluecopper: Not that I know of. Should just use the rtl8187 and sky2 drivers17:34
bluecopperhow do i changes the driver17:35
geniibluecopper: From what to what?17:35
bluecopperfirstly i shud say how do i check which driver its using now and what can i change it to better the performance17:36
bluecopperthe laptop is unable to connect to some networks17:36
bluecopperand u have to be quite close to connect to some17:37
geniibluecopper: To see if rtl8187  or sky2  driver is loaded:     lsmod | grep rtl8187           and     lsmod | grep sky217:37
geniibluecopper: They should BOTH be loaded. The sky2 is for the usb chipset/interface part of the nic and the rtl8187 is actual driver for the wifi17:38
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bluecopperi get output for rtl8187 but none for sky217:39
geniibluecopper:  echo "sky2" | sudo tee -a /etc/modules && sudo modprobe sky217:41
geniibluecopper: See if you get any better use after that.17:41
SilentDishello, i'm looking for a CD ripper for KDE, it used to be part of the kde-multimedia package in kubuntu 8.04, but i'm unable to locate that metapackage anymore, and i have yet to figure out the new adept front end.  any suggestions?17:47
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twylighthey17:53
twylightI just bought a new D-Link laptop PC card17:53
twylightit is apparently not plug and play17:53
SilentDishello, i'm looking for a CD ripper for KDE, it used to be part of the kde-multimedia package in kubuntu 8.04, but i'm unable to locate that metapackage anymore, and i have yet to figure out the new adept front end.  any suggestions?17:53
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geniitwylight: If it's some wifi card probably look into ndiswrapper17:57
Synergy_PeaceSilent i use ripperx17:59
bluecopperok i ran the command the command and got sky2 output gonna test the performance now17:59
twylightis that a package?17:59
twylight!info ndiswrapper18:00
ubottuPackage ndiswrapper does not exist in intrepid18:00
twylight!ndiswrapper18:01
ubottuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs18:01
geniitwylight: Yes the packagename is usually ndiswrapper-utils-1.9                 However it needs other things than just installing it18:01
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twylightI'm thinking let's install the drivers on the disc with wine and hope for the best18:03
geniitwylight: I'd recommend against that. But feel free to do as you please :)18:03
twylightit seems to be working18:05
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twylightepic failure18:06
twylightit looks like I have an advanced bit of hardware that has no driver support as of yet18:07
geniitwylight: Read the ndiswrapper documentation and then use the driver disk .inf and .sys files under ndiswrapper18:08
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ReptileOne noob question: how can I slide and hide the taskbar in Kubuntu 8.1 like in the previous version18:12
defohi, is there any possibility of intalling kde3 under kubuntu intrepid? I have a Dell XPS with nVidia 8600 integrated, and KDE4 is too slow18:14
geniidefo: Not officially sanctioned, but: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=96369518:16
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KWGoDE: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.18:17
KWGoDE: _cache->open() failed, please report.18:17
KWGoDmy laptop gave me this message18:17
KWGoDplease how to fix?18:17
KWGoDanyone?18:18
KWGoDAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH18:19
KWGoDwulululululululululululululululu18:19
Lokiasehello, i'm having problems to connect wireless... when I use a cable it works always, wireless (belkin usb stick), gives me always ip 0.0.0.0 .... can someone help?18:20
defoLokiase: try dhclient wlan018:21
Lokiasedefo: how?18:21
sczgilaehello18:21
KWGoDyeah i ned help too18:22
defoLokiase: open a terminal, then type it there18:22
Lokiaseok18:22
Lokiasegonna try it18:22
defowhat brand is your wireless card?18:22
sczgilaei have kde4 and in the desktop i put one text file with executable permissions, but when i click it, only open kate, and no execute, anyone knows sometinhg?18:23
Lokiasedefo: "no dhcpoffers received"18:24
KWGoDE: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.18:24
KWGoDE: _cache->open() failed, please report.18:24
KWGoDbout that?18:24
KWGoDhow to fix?18:24
KWGoDmaybe?18:25
KWGoDlil bit?18:25
defoLokiase: lspci | grep -i wireless18:25
KWGoDsmon people smarter than me18:25
defois it a usb adapter or a pci one?18:25
Lokiaseusb18:25
Lokiasewireless belkin usb18:25
defowhat brand?18:25
defook18:25
KWGoDyour mothers brand18:25
kubuntu__dual boot question...can i install xp after 8.10 without problems?18:25
Lokiasebut defo18:25
Lokiaseits on mythbuntu18:25
Lokiasenot kubuntu18:26
Lokiasebut their the prob is the same18:26
defook, dmesg | tail does it say anything when you plug it in?18:26
Lokiasethere*18:26
KWGoD.....18:26
KWGoDherro?18:26
Lokiaseits plugged in, i can choose it, use the encryption, give my psw, and it connects... but ip 0.0.0.018:26
sczgilaeLokiase: yes, but be careful with boot.ini,18:26
sczgilaeif you install windows the in boot.ini not appear your linux instalation18:27
defoif you force the ip, gateway and dns server does it work?18:27
KWGoDE: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.18:27
KWGoDE: _cache->open() failed, please report.18:27
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Lokiasei installed mythbuntu from the livecd, only mythbuntu on it18:27
Lokiasedefo, forcing is not a good option, i have 3 pc hare, 2 wired, 1 wireless, the wired works, the wireless not18:28
Lokiasedefo: wireless works but don't give a ip :)18:28
Lokiaseor gateway, ...18:28
sczgilaei have kde4 and in the desktop i put one text file with executable permissions, but when i click it, only open kate, and no execute, anyone knows sometinhg?18:29
geniiKWGoD: Do what the error suggests. But use sudo18:30
geniiKWGoD: eg: sudo dpkg --configure -a18:30
Lokiasesomeone?18:30
sczgilaei have kde4 and in the desktop i put one text file with executable permissions, but when i click it, only open kate, and no execute, anyone knows sometinhg?18:31
binMonkeycan you use wireless n just buy using a wireless n router and card?18:31
jimmy51_anyone ever had trouble with s-video out on an intel GMA 950 integrated graphics chip and kubuntu?  i can't get it to vertical sync once xserver starts18:31
geniiLokiase: If you run afterwards:   sudo dhclient wlan0    (or ath0 or whatever it's called)   does it get a number then?18:31
Lokiasegenii: no18:31
binMonkeysczgilae: cliking won't do it.  right click it and choose execute.18:31
Lokiasegenii: it says:  "no dhcpoffers received"18:32
unforgiven_Hi! I have a problem: NetworkManager erase file /etc/resolv.conf every boot. Could anybody help me?18:32
defoLokiase: http://www.kryogenix.org/days/2007/02/14/belkin-wireless-g-usb-adapter-in-ubuntu-610-edgy18:32
defothe link points to rt73 driver, which I also used for my Edimax USB wireless adapter18:32
geniiunforgiven_: Either use networkmanager and put up with it, or manually define your adapter in /etc/network/interfaces18:32
unforgiven_genii, it defined in /etc/network/interfaces18:33
geniiunforgiven_: If you have a manual entry in there then networkmanager does not alter anything associated with it18:34
Lokiasedefo: dont understand a shit :s18:34
genii!language18:34
ubottuPlease watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.18:34
unforgiven_genii, networkmanager changes only resolv.conf...18:35
Lokiaseafk18:35
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geniiunforgiven_: Then you must have defined it as "dhcp"18:36
unforgiven_genii, iface eth0 inet static18:36
jimmy51_part of my problem is when i've got the machine in my office, where my vga monitor is.... the TV Out config area is greyed out.  When i take it into where the tv is and boot, the signal is unusable by the tv, so i can't see to config.18:37
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besitzer_sadhao18:37
besitzer_hallo18:37
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carohallo18:38
carower kennt sich aus mit laptops_18:38
caro?18:38
carohallo18:38
caroist da wer?18:38
unforgiven_genii, after reboot in resolv.conf i have only: # Generated by NetworkManager18:39
ahi, i don't want firefox to cache whole pages, i have no answer on #firefox, anyone know how?18:40
caroi need help18:41
geniiunforgiven_: Please pastebin /etc/network/interfaces18:41
carosome one here who can german or romania????18:43
ai don't want it to display an online page if it is not connected as i will fool myself into thinking i have todays info...18:43
a(have ) fooled myself into thinking this18:43
unforgiven_http://pastebin.com/m11037eb918:43
ahi, i don't want firefox to cache whole pages, i have no answer on #firefox, anyone know how?18:45
ai don't want it to display an online page if it is not connected as i will fool myself into thinking i have todays info...18:45
a(have ) fooled myself into thinking this18:45
PerSeLHello all18:46
carohey18:46
geniiunforgiven_: "auto eth0" has to go above "iface eth0 inet static" line18:46
caroi need help18:46
genii!ro | caro18:47
ubottucaro: Daca doriti ajutor sau doriti sa discutati despre Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Xubuntu, intrati pe #ubuntu-ro18:47
geniicaro: German in #kubuntu-de or #ubuntu-de18:47
geniiunforgiven_: Yoru have also an eth1 which networkmanager DOES configure?18:48
unforgiven_genii, eth2 disconnected18:49
geniiunforgiven_: Since you have other adapters which are not defined in /etc/network/interfaces the likely issue here is that networkmanager is trying to configure them auto, which overwrites your resolv.conf18:52
unforgiven_genii, thank you!18:53
OxDeadC0deanyone here use amarok-nightly from neon? were you able to install amarok-nightly-kdelibs from today ?18:54
OxDeadC0deI get the dpkg error (with adept, update-manager, and sudo apt-get upgrade) of trying to overwrite `/opt/amarok-nightly/share/kde4/servicetypes/plasma-scriptengine.desktop', which is also in package amarok-nightly18:54
abbiei cant get music cd's to show up in 8.10, but they used to in 718:54
geniiunforgiven_: There would be one of 2 fast workarounds. 1)  sudo chattr +i /etc/resolv.conf                      or 2) edit /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf   to have 2 lines: supersede domain-name “mydomain.com”;    and: prepend domain-name-servers 192.168.x.x             but replace "mydomain.com" with the search domain usually found in resolv.conf and 192.168.x.x with either router ip or some actual dns18:56
awho has firefox and it doesnt show old versions of pages when you are not connected to the internet?18:58
genii!pinning | OxDeadC0de18:58
ubottuOxDeadC0de: pinning is an advanced feature that APT can use to prefer particular packages over others. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto18:58
OxDeadC0dewhat's that have to do with anything genii? :P18:59
Timmyxine seems to have crashed and no sound is coming from amarok or kaffeine18:59
Timmyhow can I fix it?18:59
geniiOxDeadC0de: pin the version you don't want overwritten with a value like 90018:59
OxDeadC0degenii I do want it overwritten, amarok-nightly doesn't work for me yet :P19:00
geniiOxDeadC0de: Then set it to prefer version from particular repo over others. pinning is very configurable19:03
abbiesome music cd's will show up and play, but others won't - is there some protection or something on them/19:03
OxDeadC0demy problem isn't preference, it's that both amarok-nightly and amarok-nightly-kdelibs (Dependency of nighly) have the same file and pkg fails because of it19:04
OxDeadC0debut all is good, amarok-nightly is actually loading for me today and not crashing even without the latest kdelibs for it - yet, I'll just wait till the packages are fixed in the neon repo19:05
TWTNWhello19:08
OxDeadC0de!hi19:08
ubottuHi! Welcome to #kubuntu!19:08
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bassemHi , why everytime i try to install VLC player ... this error occur ... vlc: Depends: vlc-nox (= 0.9.4-1ubuntu3) but it is not going to be installed ... ?19:12
abbiewhat does this mean :  Buffer I/O error on device sr019:12
OxDeadC0deabble: Means there was a problem reading the cd in your cdrom19:12
OxDeadC0debassem if you go to a console and do sudo apt-get install vlc vlc-nox does it work?19:13
abbieany reason why? it's new cd19:13
OxDeadC0deabble cd could be scratched, or it could be a hardware error, or it could be a bad press or burn of the cd19:13
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genii!info vlc-nox19:15
ubottuvlc-nox (source: vlc): multimedia player and streamer (without X support). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 0.9.4-1ubuntu3 (intrepid), package size 2651 kB, installed size 7268 kB19:15
bassemOxDeadC0de: u may need to look at the whole error at      http://paste.ubuntu.com/71994/19:15
geniibassem: Are you on Intrepid?19:15
OxDeadC0debassem and have you listened to apt-get and done what it suggested ?19:16
OxDeadC0deapt-get -f install19:16
bassemOxDeadC0de:  yea i get the same error19:17
bassemgenii:  i did version upgrade from 8.04 to 8.10 ... if that what r u askin abt19:17
ichqiribSORRY mistak that s all19:18
geniibassem: Can you pastebin result of:   apt-cache policy vlc-nox19:18
ichqiribno19:19
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ichqiribrmbr what s that ?19:19
bassemgenii:  check http://paste.ubuntu.com/71999/19:20
geniiichqirib: You are having a one-sided conversation in a public channel19:20
geniibassem: You could try specifying version.eg:   sudo apt-get install vlc-nox=0.9.4-1ubuntu319:21
jonasbethi19:21
jonasbeti have a easy question19:21
jonasbethow can i be root?19:21
jonasbetwhich comand on console?19:22
OxDeadC0dejonasbet you can run programs as root with sudo, sudo apt-get install example for example19:22
bassemgenii: i think  have problems with the whole multiverse components ... i tried wht u hve said and that was the error http://paste.ubuntu.com/72000/19:23
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KhanFusedanother simple question - and possibly proof that I'm walking around cross-eyed.  Last I'd heard, (k)ubuntu 8.10 had shipped with some kind of automatic 'install to persistent USB thumbdrive' option/script.  I couldn't see it when running the live CD, or in the wubi installer ...19:26
geniibassem: Did you do before this:   sudo apt-get update       ?19:27
bassemgenii: i tried it today ... it keeps downloading multiverse and restricted components ... but it halts at some point19:30
bassemgenii: i will check to tell what i exactly read19:31
geniibassem: You need for the update process to complete well so it has a valid list of packages.19:31
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courtjestergok if i was going to download a file should it be .deb .rpm or .tgz? also found out about this little tool19:32
courtjesterghttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alien_(computing)19:32
JontheEchidnadeb is always preferrable, alien is known to be somewhat dangerous19:32
trappist.deb, but in general that's not how you install software19:32
OxDeadC0de.deb, ubuntu is based on debian19:32
JontheEchidna.tgz is uncompiled source code19:33
OxDeadC0deit's best to use apt-get/adept if you can19:33
courtjestergwell i went to adobe and download shockwave plugin19:33
courtjestergthey aso have i belive flex alpha release19:34
geniicourtjesterg: There is no linux shockwave19:34
anubisAny linux DJ's out there?19:34
courtjestergand adobe reader do i need adobe reader19:34
rmkyI need to buy a new laptop. Where can I find out if kubuntu works on it before I buy?19:34
courtjestergadobe has a linux shockwave or i wouldn't be able to download19:34
courtjesterg;)19:34
dwidmanncourtjesterg: flash != shockwave19:34
courtjestergit would of say platform not supported19:34
courtjestergand wouldn't of gave me an option to download it19:35
geniiWho was it had firefox cached pages when in offline? I know the fix now if you're still around19:36
bassemgenii:  i get this error http://paste.ubuntu.com/72004/ .... then when i run update again ... it downloads the same thing over and over ... like i has done nothing b419:36
OxDeadC0decourtjesterg why not just sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras to get flashplayer?19:36
courtjestergno your right its flash not shockwave omg lol19:36
geniibassem: You need to do the instructions for the medibuntu keyring, which is on their site19:37
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courtjestergcause i am begining not to trust that stupid adept get19:37
geniibassem: See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu#Adding%20the%20Repositories19:37
OxDeadC0decourtjesterg dunno, I don't use adept, I use apt-get, sometimes synaptic19:37
courtjestergi install something its out of date or it installs other apps i don't need19:37
dwidmanncourtjesterg: it won't install other things unless they're dependencies, and most of a time there's a good reason for it installing those along with it.19:38
courtjestergwelli am currently working on the plugins for konqueror gave up on my quest to fix the font with driver 96 graphics19:39
courtjestergbug19:39
Lokiase|afkcan someone help me with https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/RalinkRT73#head-cfea35eda750890a23c58873b4183271cc3a650c, dont understand it19:39
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courtjesterghttp://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/otherversions/19:41
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OxDeadC0dewhy don't you use network config lokiiase|afk19:43
OxDeadC0deer, lokiase19:43
bassemgenii: i tried the instructions ... and i got the same key error :S19:43
bassemwhen i try to install medibuntu keyring19:44
courtjestergso how do i do this in Konqueror can also use the Flash plugin if konqueror-nsplugins is installed19:44
courtjestergi checked out the adept plugin19:44
lee__hello, say I was wondering Ubuntu has a program for making a bootable USB device is there something simular for making a bootable HDD?19:44
OxDeadC0debassem what if you do sudo apt-get autoremove && sudo apt-get -f install ? (maybe he has packages from 8.04 still installed somehow that he shouldn't??)19:45
lee__or will that same prgram also recognise a seperate HDD19:45
lee__e h if installed on the pc19:45
lee__meh heck Ill wing it lol19:47
bassemOxDeadC0de: i got  error about unmet dependencies for the package19:47
bassem libxine1-ffmpeg:19:47
lee__Eh I need to rephrase that question, is there a way that I can make a start up with out losing data on an extrenal USB Drive?19:49
sjdurfey anyway to remove duplicate entries from the listings in Amarok when there is only one copy of the file present?19:49
OxDeadC0debassem if you run sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get -f install then sudo apt-get check do you still get that?19:52
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geniiApologies on lag, work required me19:56
geniibassem: Did you do the part: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install medibuntu-keyring && sudo apt-get update19:56
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geniibassem: ?19:56
bassemgenii: yea ... and got the same error :/19:56
bassemabt that key19:56
enojI'm running KDE4 remix and my desktop (widgets) are acting weird - what configuration file can I delete to reset my desktop? (positioning of widgets etc)19:56
bassemOxDeadC0de:  i tried sudo apt-get check .... libxine1-ffmpeg has unmet dependencies which are  "libxine1-ffmpeg" & "libxine1-ffmpeg"19:57
OxDeadC0debassem lol what if you do apt-get remove libxine1-ffmpeg ?19:58
bassempackage sun-java6-jre , has unmet dependencies which are ... sun-java6-bin  & ia32-sun-java6-bin19:59
bassemlolx20:00
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bassemshall i remove sun-java6-jre ?20:01
cuzntsun-java6-jre  is the important 120:02
cuzntimo20:02
mephxis there a way of getting all 10 caracter words of a file by cat | grepping it?20:04
legodude_sure20:05
legodude_with a proper regex20:05
Tupac_Shakurto live or die in La20:06
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legodude_what's the proper way to go about submitting changes to kubuntu?20:09
bassemlegodude_: what do u mean by submitting changes ?20:09
legodude_well, I created a udev file to enable easy use of the powermate device20:10
legodude_as well as some other changes20:10
legodude_how would I go about submitting those?20:10
legodude_try and create a package?20:10
bassemu need to submit or save them ?20:10
legodude_?20:11
bassemOxDeadC0de:  u still there ?20:12
enojI'm running KDE4 remix and my desktop (widgets) are acting weird - what configuration file can I delete to reset my desktop? (positioning of widgets etc)20:12
OxDeadC0debassem sorry was afk, yeah remove that20:13
bassemOxDeadC0de:  the same error abt package  libxine1-ffmpeg , havin unmet dependencies20:14
OxDeadC0dedidn't you already remove libxine1-ffmpeg?20:14
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bassemwhen i tried to remove it gives the same error but with sun-java6-jre: package20:15
bassemany way to remove the whole thing20:16
bassem?20:16
OxDeadC0detry removing both at once20:16
OxDeadC0dedoes anyone else get fps dropping to 30fps with kwin effects alt+tab and zoom (It goes to a stable 30fps so I wonder if it's software forcing it to, instead of hardware/driver issues?)20:16
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FerSeLhello20:17
FerSeLi need a help with kubuntu just switched from the gnome20:17
FerSeLand found a problem to install firefox20:17
geniibassem: Have you tried: sudo apt-get -f install                          or: sudo dpkg --configure -a                     yet?20:18
bassemi tried the -f install ... zero result20:18
Lokiaseback, still looking to solve the prob in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/RalinkRT73#head-cfea35eda750890a23c58873b4183271cc3a650c20:19
OxDeadC0deweird, it goes to 30fps when I zoom, 30 fps when I alt+tab, and stays at 30fps when I alt+tab while zoomed (Doesn't drop again) So I think a couple of the kwin effects modules force kwin to redraw at 30fps?20:20
bassemwhen i tried to remove both .... the error says " package sun-java6-jre is in very insonsistent state ,, try to reinstall "20:20
basseminconsistent*20:21
OxDeadC0de sudo dpkg -r --force-depends --force-remove-reinstreq sun-java6-jre20:22
courtjestergi didn't know java haaad tuts on there page downloading hte developer pack so cool i can learn and get started early my community college has a online computer science course been thinking about taking for a degree20:23
FerSeLanyone can tell me how to install  firefox on kubuntu?20:29
OxDeadC0dethat work bassem?20:29
KhanFusedFerSel ... GUI or in console?20:29
FerSeLKhanFused: I dled it from getfirefox.com20:30
KhanFusedshouldn't have to do it that way -- it's in the ubuntu archives20:30
KhanFusedunless you're looking for the latest point upgrade20:30
stubeFerSel: Should be able install it with Adept Manager.20:31
FerSeLKhanFused: so how should iinstall firefox on kubuntu20:31
Dr_willissudo apt-get install firefox   works for me20:31
FerSeLit open it as archive20:31
KhanFusedin your software manager -- look in the "internet" sub group for Firefox20:31
KhanFusedselect20:31
KhanFusedtell the manager to install it20:31
stubeDr_willis: that too20:31
KhanFusedor, as Dr Willis suggests, in the shell ... apt-get install20:31
FerSeLok i guess done20:32
Dr_willistheres a reason the shell is popular.. :) concise answers :)20:32
FerSeLthanks all20:32
stubeI did it with GUI, all went OIK:20:32
stube*-i20:32
stubeDr_W: yes, just goming there bit by bit....20:33
stube*coming20:33
FerSeLI have problem with my video card: NVIDIA 7300GT20:38
FerSeLwhen i'm    using  what  kubuntu suggest me i get errors20:38
FerSeLand some strange lines etc...20:38
FerSeLhow can i run the driver i dled from nvidia? it's .run20:41
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legodude_when I'm adding a printer20:45
legodude_it is hanging after selecting the driver20:45
legodude_any ideas?20:45
ptlhey20:50
ptljust took my HP-UX certification20:50
ptlgreetings!20:50
legodude_!20:50
legodude_that is still being used!20:50
* legodude_ has nightmares of 10.2020:50
legodude_is it any good nowadays?20:51
ptlTo my job, very mich20:51
ptl*much20:51
ptlit is largely used yet20:51
legodude_what are you running it on?20:51
legodude_and why?20:52
ptlthe corporative world is hidden to us, but it exists and sells big20:52
ptlAIX, HP-UX, Solaris are very much alive and thriving20:52
legodude_I thought it was basically killed when PA-RISC died20:52
legodude_yes, I know AIX and solaris20:52
ptlsome clients of my employer use it20:52
legodude_but HP-UX seems to have lost big20:52
ptlNo... HP-UX runs on Itanium220:52
legodude_yes20:53
legodude_and that's what you're using it on?20:53
legodude_I didn't know that itanium2 was really being used any more either20:53
ptlnope, not yet20:53
legodude_still on pa-risc?20:53
legodude_j?20:53
* genii tinkers with installing Solaris 10 into a VM20:54
geniiBut we grow -ot    ;)20:54
ptlyes, still on PA-Risc20:56
legodude_I got rid of all of my pa-risc machines a while ago20:57
legodude_I did have a soft-spot for the 71220:57
legodude_but in more non-ot, why would the printer wizard crash?20:58
legodude_is there any way to debug it?20:58
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blekhello it's again me and i have allway my probleme give me french channel please21:01
Dr_willis!fr21:02
ubottuCe canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr21:02
blekthank's21:02
ptllegodude_: install kdelibs-dbg21:04
lee__Ok I treid to make a boot up disk from the USB using an ISO. and it failed, my dell can boot from a USB Stick as well waht Am I dong wrong?21:05
lee__its that program that program that is supose to allow you to make a bootable SD card/ or usb stick21:06
lee__Oh hm this time it says I have to rebbot the other iso didnt say taht lol21:07
Dr_willisI use unetbootin to create a bootable thumb drive from a iso image file21:07
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ian1Hi, KDE is freezing on login, can someone help me?  It freezes when the world icon (3rd icon) shows up21:19
ian1anyone?  I've also tried installing xfce4, but that fails to load also and just drops back to kdm21:21
ian1I can't find a log file that has any error messages, but I don't know where to look specifically21:21
Dr_willistry a real light window manager like icewm, or jwm21:22
Dr_willisgo to the console,  stop the kdm service and try 'startx' also - see if tha works21:22
ian1tried that and it doesn't.  Freezes at same point21:22
ian1haven't tried with xfce4 though21:22
Dr_willisati video card?21:23
ian1nvidia21:23
ian1it worked great for a while21:23
ian1don't know what happened21:23
szallooks like if I want KDE3 then I should better go w/ Hardy than w/ Intrepid..  or does anyone have a better proposal?21:23
Dr_willisTHre are some unofficial kde3 packages out for hardy.. but Ive never used them.. and dont plan to.21:24
Dr_willis:)21:24
ian1I'm also having a weird issue with the package manager saying the packages are not-authenticated.. don't know if it's related21:24
Dr_willisoops i mean for Intrepid..21:24
geniiszal: There is an unsupported 3.5 repo for Intrepid if you like21:24
Dr_willis not-authenticated = you dont have the gpg (pgp?) key imported yet.21:24
szalgenii: that I know21:24
ian1didn't used to do that21:25
ian1how to get the gpg key?21:25
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Dr_willisthe medibuntu site has info on getting theirs... but not sure about others...21:26
ian1what's the log file to look at for kde21:26
geniiszal: If you need support best to stay on 8.04 + kde3.521:26
ian1don't see anything in /var/log21:26
oliviermhey there21:26
ian1Anyone know what log file to look at for kde errors?21:27
ahi, i experience a crash/non response from the help files from the default desktop icon. it is when i search something and it gives me the choice to look online which i do... it gives me a "page not found" and then when i press the bar for the desktop help again it crashes/becomes nonresponsive21:27
courtjestergdoes anybody use Konqueror for web browseing i have flash and java plugins on this browser and for some odd reason the app for facebook and myspace which is called yoville just sits at the load window this i have been trying to fuguire out?21:27
courtjestergit ask to install flash i did this21:28
oliviermwould anybody know the dbus way to toggle KWin's compositing on and off?21:28
courtjestergeven when i use firefox it stops at the start screen21:29
aanyways, does ubuntu 8.10 support nvidias physx?21:29
courtjestergwith plugin's21:29
oliviermthere is a (working) keyboard shortcut, but I would like to be able to invoke that from a script21:29
Dr_willisa ive not seen too mich that supports physx :)21:29
Copelia!fr21:31
ubottuCe canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr21:31
courtjesterg does anybody use Konqueror for web browseing i have flash and java plugins on this browser and for some odd reason the app for facebook and myspace which is called yoville just sits at the load window this i have been trying to fuguire out?21:31
courtjesterg[16:28] <courtjesterg> it ask to install flash i did this21:31
courtjesterg even when i use firefox it stops at the start screen21:31
courtjesterg[16:29] <courtjesterg> with plugin's21:31
White_PelicanI lost my taskbar in kde 4.1. how do I get it back?21:36
ptlrm -rf ~/.kde21:36
ptlor21:36
ptlif you still have the panel21:36
White_Pelicanthen reboot?21:37
White_PelicanI don't have the panel21:37
ptldon't?21:37
ptlwow.21:37
White_PelicanI just have the add widget button at the top right21:37
ptlrm -rf ~/.kde then Ctrl-Alt-Backspace21:37
ptland log in again21:37
White_Pelicanok I'll try21:37
White_Pelicanbrb21:37
legodude_how does dragon player output audio?21:38
maxi__hola21:40
maxi__hay algun juego mejor que el urban terror .. que de por si esta muy bueno21:41
legodude_!es21:41
ubottuEn la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.21:41
lee__say does the this "creat a USB start up disk work only for ubuntu ISO's or can other ISOs work aswell?21:42
lee__Yes dragon player out puts audio as far as I know21:43
ReptileHow do I hide the taskbar ?21:44
emmaDo we think that an nvidia 8000 series would run well on kubuntu?21:46
aso what would you need to know to make physx drivers run on ubuntu?21:46
aemma, mine does21:46
emmaa sounds promising..21:46
a8600gs emma21:46
david__#puteo21:46
emmaI want to get a new video card tonight.21:46
aemma, but not the physx drivers21:46
emmaHow can you tell what type of interface you need for your computer?21:46
awhat computer is it?21:47
emmaa - I want to have really nice and full blown graphics. Not hit or miss or problems.21:47
aemma for what purpose? game sor what?21:47
aemma dont buy a card unless you are sure you are buying the right interface21:48
ai have bought cards and sent them back its embarrasing xD21:48
emmaa -- this is my computer -- http://tech.yahoo.com/ps/hp-compaq-presario-sr1750nx/199427624921:48
emmaa - not really mostly games but i want to have nice graphics and all the pop and wizz21:49
White_Pelicanthanks pTL i GOT IT BACK21:49
White_Pelicanoops21:49
White_Pelicansorry caps lock21:49
aits the pci express is the norm for high power cards, emma21:49
emmawhat do you mean?21:50
emmamy computer is pci then right?21:50
emmanot pci 2 or something, just pci ?21:50
athat is the name of the interface PCI express21:50
ayou will have a choice of pci or agp, older cards will do express pci only anyway, emma21:51
White_Pelicanok, now that I have the interface bacl, is there any way to change the taskbar from that ugly black?21:51
aemma, do not take agp x)21:51
White_Pelicanback*21:51
emmaokay but my computer can handle pci you think?21:51
athis one you showed me has pci-e slots21:51
aits written under "expansion"21:52
aand an old pci but no agp so dont buy agp or you'll have to send it back21:52
ptlWhite_Pelican: yes, just change the style :)21:56
White_Pelicanptl, where is that?21:57
White_Pelicanis that the one under system settings, Appearance?21:57
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aMuleLinux?22:00
ptlWhite_Pelican: yes22:00
White_PelicanI'm confused22:00
White_Pelicanobviously :)22:01
lovrehi all22:01
lovreis there a plasmoid for temperature monitoring?22:01
marc__german channel?22:01
White_Pelicando I change the widget style?22:01
genii!de22:01
ubottuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de22:01
White_Pelicanwhat do I change under appearance22:02
White_Pelican?22:02
marc__danke22:02
mephxwhy don't gtk apps become transparent when inactive when defined so in the effects page?22:09
White_Pelicanhu JontheEchidna can you help me out?22:12
White_PelicanI'm trying to learn about changes in kde422:12
White_Pelicanthe panel is black (ya know, where the taskbar is) and I want to be able to change the color scheme22:13
White_PelicanI don't know ho to22:13
White_Pelicancan you help?22:13
ugaWhite_Pelican: the color scheme is defined by the plasma theme22:14
ugayou cannot change the color alone22:14
ugaWhite_Pelican: you'd need to edit the theme yourself22:14
White_Pelicanhow can I edit the theme?22:15
ugaWhite_Pelican: themes are based on svg images22:16
ugayou'll have them under /share/apps/desktoptheme/22:16
White_Pelicanis it under system settings?22:16
ugaWhite_Pelican: no, they are files22:16
White_Pelicanor I need to go to the folder you mentioned?22:16
White_Pelicanah22:16
ugaWhite_Pelican: ~/.kde/share/apps/desktoptheme22:17
White_PelicanOK I think it's becoming more clear22:17
ugathe ones provided within kubuntu are in /usr/share/kde4/apps/desktoptheme/22:17
ugathe ones you installed later, are under22:18
uga~/.kde/share/apps/desktoptheme22:18
White_Pelicanok I have kde 3 and kde 422:18
ugaWhite_Pelican: they are vector images (svg) that you can edit22:18
White_PelicanI should have pointed that out22:18
ugaWhite_Pelican: yups but still22:18
ugakde4 desktop (I guess you are running the kde4 desktop)  colors cannot be altered22:19
ugaonly by editing those images22:19
White_Pelicannot a good idea imho22:19
aboSamoorI want to download amarok 2.0 beta3, and the package I have in repository is 1.92.2-0ubuntu1~hardy~ppa2 are they the same ?22:19
ugaWhite_Pelican: it's designed for artists, not for developers22:19
White_Pelicanhmmm22:19
ugaWhite_Pelican: and artists dont' know how to define how colors should change22:20
JontheEchidnaaboSamoor: nope, the beta3 packages were only released for Intrepid22:20
White_Pelicanit should be designed for end users ;)22:20
ugaor what widgets would not change and which would22:20
Tm_Tuga: White_Pelican: wrong22:20
ugaTm_T: ?22:20
ugaTm_T: in which part22:20
White_Pelican?22:20
Tm_Tuga: they can use systemcolours22:20
Tm_Tuga: all widgets, how much they can use, I don't know, but they can use22:20
ugaTm_T: ah, I didn't know that. How do you embed systemcolors info within the svg?22:20
aboSamoorJontheEchidna, where can I find the sources so I compile mine ?22:20
Tm_Tuga: you don't have to22:20
ugaTm_T: you specify replacements?22:20
Tm_Tuga: atleast my plasma settings have options for that22:21
JontheEchidnaaboSamoor: there should be a source download at amarok's website22:21
JontheEchidnamake sure you have amarok-mysql-dev installled from the ppa22:21
Tm_Tuga: config files that is actually but anyway22:21
Tm_Tuga: haven't actually tried if those are followed but should work22:21
ugaTm_T: where in system settings?22:21
ugaI'm on trunk, but didn't notice this feature22:21
aboSamoorJontheEchidna, is my version is the beta2 or related to 2.0 or it is old version ?22:21
Tm_Tuga: 0021.27 < Tm_T> uga: config files that is actually but anyway22:22
ugaTm_T: yes, but I haven't seen it done anywhere =)22:22
JontheEchidnaaboSamoor: 1.92 is beta2 I think22:22
Tm_Tuga: use $EDITOR then (;)22:22
ugaTm_T: yes, but it's not documented22:23
ugawhat to edit and where22:23
aboSamoorJontheEchidna, if it is beta2 I think i be satisfied with22:23
Tm_Tuga: they have fields there, just alter false to true22:23
ugaTm_T: and I also wonder how it decides which colors to change and which not22:23
ugait cannot be done automatically and work fine on any theme22:23
Tm_Tuga: that's a good question, try22:23
ugawithout the help of the artist22:23
Tm_TI think it was tinting or so22:23
White_Pelicanwell folks thanks for your help. I've decided to stick to kde322:24
ugaTm_T: I've coded custom widgets and it's so hard making them work with any colorset22:24
Tm_TI see22:24
ugaso I can imagine doing these svg tinted must be much harder22:24
ugaTm_T: what's black color tinted?22:24
ugablack22:24
uga=)22:24
ugayou can easily die white, but black...22:25
Tm_Tuga: dunno, I don't have black in my plasma22:25
lovreis there a plasmoid for temperature monitoring?22:26
Tm_Tis in KDE 4.2 atleast22:27
legodude_weather temp?22:28
legodude_or system temp?22:28
Tm_Tsystem temp I'm sure he's meaning22:28
ugathere's one for system temp and one for weather temp anyway22:29
ugaalthough weather one claims always rainy =O)22:29
muxomorHallo, i have such a problem. Kubuntu Gutsy is running on an AMD 2.1 Ghz , videocard Riva TNT2 32mb. The problem: Today internet connection went down, and after that screen went to blank mode.The comp was restarted, but screen doesnt react at anything. At startup the LED lamps on keyboard are lightniing, but nothing more. IOne can't see grub, can't login and ctrl-alt-delete, ctrl-alt-backspace do not work.I read about such problem on22:30
muxomorlaptops, there solution was to make a battery empty, but what about pc?22:30
lovrewhen i try to add new plasmoids and select install from file, there is no superkaramba option...?22:30
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david__Hi I am trying to set up my webcam on 8.10 Kubuntu amd64.. Can anyone help me?22:33
lovrewhats the best archiving software in kubuntu? i have standard Ark, but it has no Extract here.. feature and so on22:35
muxomorit has22:35
david__I think I have dolphin22:36
ugadolphin uses ark22:36
ugaor rather the kio22:36
szalare there possibilities of having a more recent kernel on Hardy other than building one myself?22:38
lovreuga: i like ark, but its not integrated in shell, i dont see Extract here.. when i click on a zip file?22:38
ugain the _shell_?22:38
ugalovre: you must mean in dolphin, not shell I guess22:39
lovreuga: sorry, in dolphin...22:39
ugalol22:39
lovreuga: yes22:39
lovreuga: lol22:39
ugalovre: I have tarballs, and I have extract here as option22:39
lovretar.gz?22:40
ugaand same for a zip, I just checked22:40
ugalovre: yes22:40
ugalovre: but I'm on kde 4.2 from trunk22:40
lovreuga: there is no such option in me22:40
lovreah22:40
ugamaybe it's some particularity of the kubuntu build22:40
lovre4.2 is in beta?22:40
ugalovre: yes22:40
ralphohow do you get 4.222:40
lovreuga: i cba to install that yet... i would like it on kde4.1 tho :D22:40
ugalovre: beta status yet, but not in kubuntu, I mean from svn trunk22:40
ugaralpho: using svn checkout? =)22:41
szalif you use a beta & find a fault, don't complain, instead file a bug :)22:41
ugaditto22:41
ugalovre: I'm still surprised 4.1 didn't have that,... uhm22:42
david__I am still looking for help with a webcam just in case anyone can help.22:42
lovreuga: i cant even compress files before running ark and adding...LOL EPIC FAIL22:43
ugadavid__: I don't have a webcam, but can I suggest you check dmesg and see what happens? and also check permissions22:43
ugadavid__: you could try as root just to test22:44
sumincomcomo hago para ver los videos con kubuntu22:44
ugasumincom: #kde-devel-es22:44
sumincomno me abren22:44
david__uga: you mean in Konsole?22:44
ugasumincom: este canal es solo en inglés...22:44
ugadavid__: yes22:45
sumincomok22:45
ugaif you type dmesg, you'll see the last events that happenned when plugging the camera22:45
sumincomsorry22:45
ugasumincom: no problemo ;)22:45
ugasumincom: pero te recomiendo usar mplayer o xine22:45
ugasumincom: y necesitarás algunos drivers googlea "medibuntu"22:45
sumincomok22:46
sumincomgracias22:46
ugas/drivers/codecs22:46
ugaouch, I said kde-devel-es instead of kubuntu-es22:47
* uga idiot22:47
david__[ 1410.981904] usb 2-8: SN9C105 PC Camera Controller detected (vid:pid 0x0C45:0x60FE)22:48
david__[ 1411.342914] usb 2-8: No supported image sensor detected for this bridge22:49
david__uga: that is what came up22:49
ugadavid__: sounds like the driver didn't support your camera hw22:50
ugabut I'm not the best one to respond to this, given I never owned a webcam22:50
david__that's ok uga I'll try again later thanks22:51
ugadavid__: can you try "lsusb"?22:51
ugait will tell you the device brand and exact model22:51
\KiraIs there a way to Alt-Tab out of a fullscreen game? I can do it in wine, but not in native linux games....22:58
sonic__has anyone been able to get an Andriod G1 phone to mount with 8.10? It worked with 8.04 but stopped about when I installed 8.10.   I  dont even get an option for it to mount. I dont think its being picked up by the kernel even23:01
ugasend me one and I'll try ;)23:01
zerotoleranceso is it worth upgrading to 8.10 yet? i want to put it on my mini23:03
aboSamoortrying to compile kde 2.0b3 I got this error   'ERROR: Could not find KDE4 kde4-config' ?23:03
Dr_williszerotolerance,  only you can decide that - based on your needs.23:13
* Dr_willis has no idea what a 'mini' is23:13
starenkahi, bought a new hdd for my laptop. now i hear the "clicks" - heads being parked. can anybody tell me if the Load_cycle mania is a FUD or tru? My Load count is 2800 in 7 days....23:20
phil_stoneIs there a tool for managing mount points in kde 4.1?23:21
starenka!kde4 | phil_stone23:21
ubottuphil_stone: KDE 4.1.3 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. Packages can be found at  http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.1.3 - Support in #kubuntu23:21
starenkalol23:21
starenkaused to be different channel, right?23:22
phil_stoneOK, in kubuntu at all?  Gnome included?23:23
phil_stoneOr is it vim /etc/fstab?23:23
starenkawell in 3.5 it is in system settings...23:25
phil_stoneYep.23:25
phil_stoneThought it might be there in 4.123:25
phil_stonebut after a hunt, I give up23:25
starenka:))23:26
phil_stonevim it is then23:26
Dr_willisI find it faster to just vi fstab23:26
starenkayou can allways do "sudo nano /etc/fstab"23:26
starenkaphil_stone: http://crap.starenka.net/mp.png23:27
phil_stonevi messes with screen (or it did in 8.423:27
starenkanano is okay23:27
phil_stoneThere really wasn't the warnings for kubuntu 8.10, that it was junk23:30
starenka:p23:30
Dr_willisif you want to use vim a lot. you proberlm want to install the vim-full package23:31
noaXessis kde 4.1.3 very diffrent to kde 4.1.2? i mean.. diffrent to 8.04 with kde4?23:32
Dr_willis4.1.3 i hear has a lot of bug fix's23:33
Dr_williswhich makes sence. :)23:33
phil_stoneDidn't notice any material changes23:33
Tm_Tthere's that too23:34
noaXessi'm not really shure to upgrade to 8.1023:36
phil_stoneIt is missing ALOT from kde 3.523:36
ptlfor me it was good.23:37
noaXessyes thats the point23:37
Tm_Tphil_stone: for me it isn't, KDE4 that is23:37
ptlhowever I don't think it is for everyone. Besides the lack of features there's still lots of bugs.23:37
Dr_willislack of features is a big feature!23:37
Dr_willis:)23:37
phil_stoneLack of features, should use ubuntu...23:38
Tm_Tptl: missing features for who? and what bugs? I haven't any biggies23:38
phil_stoneI agree, I haven't had any big bugs23:38
phil_stoneGood enough for daily use.23:38
Tm_Tsmall ones, I have one23:38
Tm_Twhich isn't bothering me, really23:38
noaXessfeatures like keyboard shortcuts with win-key, like win+1 for eg. firefox.. try it.. it won't work23:38
Tm_TnoaXess: well, I have shortcuts using win-key23:39
Dr_willisI just want to drag icons from the menus to the panel...23:39
Dr_willis:)23:39
noaXessTm_T: try win+1 for firefox23:39
Dr_willisbut i guess im extreme!23:39
Dr_willis:)23:39
Tm_TnoaXess: I don't use firefox23:39
noaXessDr_willis: yes.. thats not really easy23:39
noaXessTm_T: then with any other app..23:39
ptlTm_T: just to tell you an example, on my Intel 965 AGN the icons of applications don't appear in the system tray. Instead, something like broken numbers or a half-KDE-icon appears instead.23:40
noaXessalso panel hiding.. not working23:40
HappySmileManDr_willis: Dragging icons to panel should work in 4.2 I think, you can already drag icons to desktop and from desktop to panel, so I can't imagine it takes much work, and it's definitely a planned feature23:40
noaXessnot yet implemented23:40
Tm_TnoaXess: panel hiding works here23:40
ptlTm_T: also, the 'gkrellm fixation bug', an old bug where gkrellm's position suddenly changes when network is connected or disconnected, continues23:40
noaXessTm_T: is that included in 4.1.3? in 4.1.2 it won't work23:40
Tm_Tptl: sounds fun23:40
Tm_TnoaXess: dunno, I use trunk (that's what developers poke on)23:41
Tm_TnoaXess: could be in 4.1.323:41
noaXesshm..23:41
ptlTm_T: and my setup of khotkeys for screen lock using dbus does not work, although when I click 'test' while configuring it, it works.23:41
noaXessTm_T: do the win+1 shortcut work with any app?23:42
noaXessor win+2..23:42
noaXessor eg. win+e for dolphin23:42
ptlthe list goes on...23:42
Tm_TnoaXess: dunno, I use win+F-keys to switch desktops and stuff23:42
noaXessTm_T: can you please try one?23:42
noaXesstest one?23:43
ptlMy T61 keyboard has workspace left and workspace right23:43
ptlI use them all the time23:43
ptlI love seeing windows fly bye23:43
ptl*fly by23:43
Tm_Tptl: with 9 desks it's too limited (:23:43
ptlTm_T: I have 823:43
Tm_Tyup23:43
Tm_Tand by the time you make one switch, I have swithced from 1 to 5 to 8 or whatever (:23:44
Tm_Tbut yes, good to know it works that way too (:23:44
ptlnot quite so, the workspace left and workspace right are on the down right side of the keyboard, while when you press the Fx keys, you have to raise your hand23:44
ptlthe movement takes some time23:44
Tm_Tptl: I don't rise my hand23:45
ptlbut pressing workspace left and right is always very fast23:45
noaXesswill there be some version steps from 4.1.3 until 4.2?23:45
Tm_TnoaXess: perhaps 4.1.4 bugfix release23:45
ptlI dunno23:45
Tm_TnoaXess: and ofcourse betas and stuff23:46
ptlBut I am eager for using the Cube on KDE 4.223:46
ptlKDE desktop effects are lots more stable than compiz fusion23:47
ptl(or is it "stabler"?)23:47
Tm_Tmore stable23:47
ptlthanks23:48
ari_stresshi hi23:48
ptlBut I love some of the plasmoids, I just can't get used to the thought of letting them below my windows23:49
ptlMy gkrellm is always visible23:49
ptlNo plasmoid, karamba or superkaramba script, gdesklet or screenlets or google widget could replace it yet23:49
binMonkeyhi, guys.23:50
* Dr_willis sticks with Conky23:50
ptlconky is too complicated23:50
ptland I could no get any conky script close to what I want.23:51
* Dr_willis found it rather trivial23:51
binMonkeyconky is second only to yakuake, it is so great.23:51
ptlI'll show you my desktop23:51
ptlhttp://patola.org/mydesk.png23:52
ptltry it23:52
courtjestergreal question that needs a real answer i need to edit my sources from adept so i can run adept i tryed reinstalling and found out a res was the reason why it could start23:53
courtjestergcourtjesterg@courtjesterg-desktop:~$ sudo apt-get --reinstall install adept23:53
courtjesterg[sudo] password for courtjesterg:23:53
courtjestergE: Type 'git://git.kitenet.net/aliengit://git.kitenet.net/alien' is not known on line 46 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list23:53
courtjestergE: The list of sources could not be read.23:53
courtjestergcourtjesterg@courtjesterg-desktop:~$23:53
courtjestergi need to edit that line where do i go to remove it23:53
Dr_willisedit the file then?  its just a text file. /etc/apt/sources.list23:53
Dr_willislike it says23:54
courtjestergthks23:54
Dr_willisYou dont need to use any fancy  tools. :)23:54
ptlsudo vi /etc/apt/sources.list23:54
ptl/git.kitenet23:54
ptldd23:54
ptl<ESC>:x!23:54
Dr_willis:wq ?23:54
ptl:wq is the same as :x23:54
Dr_willis;XXXX!23:55
Dr_willis:)23:55
ptlmy cat is destroying my server23:55
ptljust a moment23:55
binMonkeyis git another editor?23:55
courtjesterglol that cat love it23:55
Dr_willis!info git23:55
ubottugit (source: gnuit): transitional dummy package which can be safely removed. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.9.4-1 (intrepid), package size 11 kB, installed size 60 kB23:55
Dr_willis!info gnuit23:55
ubottugnuit (source: gnuit): GNU Interactive Tools, a file browser/viewer and process viewer/killer. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.9.4-1 (intrepid), package size 292 kB, installed size 1288 kB23:55
ptlgit is something done by linus torvalds to get version control23:55
courtjestergno thought it was a res url for alien but nope i found where i need to covert a rpm file to deb23:55
Grant931uh23:55
Grant931when I run this command I get this output:23:56
Grant931grant@monster:~$ sudo chown grant /home/grant/docs23:56
Grant931chown: changing ownership of `/home/grant/docs': Operation not permitted23:56
binMonkeyptl: is that irssi in yakuake on your desktop?  and are all those tabs on the bottom different channels?23:56
Grant931what should I do?23:56
binMonkeyGrant931: same command but use sudo.23:57
Grant931I did use sudo23:57
binMonkeysorry. i missed that.23:57
Grant931I can't even do it with sudo su23:57
ptlbinMonkey: that is irssi, the tabs on bottom ("shell", "shell 2" and such) are shells doing other things - like telnet, ssh, mutt, and the irssi "window numbers" (1 2 3 4 ...) are above it23:57
ptloh, and there's also screen "windows"23:58
binMonkeyptl: i like that a lot!23:58
ptlthat "0-$ zsh (1*zsh) ..." and such23:58
Dr_willisI like the tool 'terminator' for managing multi terminals also. :)23:58
Dr_willisbut it uses gnome-terminal23:58
ptlyakuake is nice because it rolls from the top of the screen back and forth23:59
ptlthere are some programs like this for gnome but they are not as sofisticated as yakuake23:59

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