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nhandlerSo the source of the bug was never discovered?00:00
drguildoyeah00:01
nhandlerThen it should be invalid. See http://tinyurl.com/5uubpe00:02
drguildook, thanks.00:03
nhandlerYou're welcome drguildo00:04
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lfaraoneHi, I'm getting an error "104" when submitting bugs via 5aday...00:37
lfaraoneAny idea how I can fix this?00:37
drguildoanybody fancy trying to reproduce a rhythmbox bug?00:44
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bucket529I'm trying to create my first patch for bug 117984 using the wiki. The fix changes one line in an XML file in evolution-data-server, plus the ChangeLog addition. But e-d-s doesn't have a debian/ directory, so debuild fails. The wiki only covers debuild -> deb file -> defdiff to create the patch. Any clever workaround or alternate method?03:11
ubottuLaunchpad bug 117984 in evolution-data-server "Weather calendar getting wrong data" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/11798403:11
RAOFbucket529: You're starting from what package?  If you want to fix this _in Ubuntu_ you start with the relevant source package, make a patch, and apply it; in that case, you're guaranteed to have a debian/ directory.03:14
RAOFbucket529: "aptitude search evolution" suggests the package you're after is evolution-data-server.03:16
bucket529RAOF: I started with 'apt-get source evolution-data-server'. It downloaded the source beautifully. Everything was there...except a debian/ folder.03:16
bucket529RAOF: AS a check, I also pulled the source from the link at packages.ubuntu.com. Same ultimate result.03:17
persiabucket529, Did it downlod a tar.gz and a diff.gz an report an error about dplg-source failing?03:18
RAOFUuur, really?03:18
bucket529persia: Yes, .tar.gz. Yes, diff.gz. No error.03:18
persiaRAOF, Common if devscripts isn't there.  Try it in a chroot.03:18
persiabucket.  Try dpkg-source -x $(whatever).dsc.  This ought get you unpacked source with a debian/ directory.03:19
RAOFpersia: Aaah.03:19
persiaOr at least produce a useful error.03:19
bucket529persia: Will do. Thanks.03:19
persiabucket529, Thanks for helping with a patch :)03:20
persiabucket529, If that doesn't work, apt-get install devscripts and try again.03:20
bucket529persia, RAOF: Success. Got a debian/ this time. Thanks.03:35
bucket529Attached a patch (cross fingers - first try) for bug 117984. Tried patching my own, and it seemed to work. hggdh wanted to see it - I'll ping him tomorrow about it. I'll pause a couple days for feedback/corrections before sending it upstream to Gnome.04:00
ubottuLaunchpad bug 117984 in evolution-data-server "Weather calendar getting wrong data" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/11798404:00
hggdh|awaybucket529, I will have a look at it, and will ping upstream about it (happened to come to my office to get a printout)04:20
hggdh|awaybucket529, did you create the diff from a clean apt-get source?04:23
bucket529hggdh: Er, clean?04:24
hggdh|awaybucket529, if you look at the diff there is a lot of changed lines04:26
hggdh|awayer, is this s debdiff?04:26
bucket529hggdh: The wiki instructions were for a debdiff.04:26
hggdh|awaythen seems OK04:28
bucket529hggdh: If a different format is better, can do...just let me know04:28
hggdh|awaybucket529, a debdiff is good for us; for upstream we will just provide them witha diff04:29
bucket529hggdh: Ah...I will start learning that tomorrow.04:29
bucket529hggdh: I'll attach a diff to the bug once I get there...perhaps tomorrow.04:31
hggdh|awaybucket529, thank you ( and a diff is simpler ;-)04:31
hggdh|awaybucket529, the reason is upstream does not package at all, they provide the source and a bauild process to make the binaries, but no packaging04:32
bucket529hggdh: Good to know. As I wade in the deeper water, the swimming lessons begin to make more sense.04:33
hggdh|away:-)04:37
hggdh|awaybeware of crocodiles04:38
rrittenhouseI'm trying to assign some bugs to their packages. Would this one go to network-manager-applet? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/29790905:35
ubottuLaunchpad bug 297909 in ubuntu "nm-applet remembers the old network after suspend" [Undecided,New]05:35
Hobbseerrittenhouse: n-m-a doesn't exist?05:36
Hobbseenetwork-manager is the source package though05:36
Hobbsee(and yes, it should go there)05:36
rrittenhouseOh ok. I'm trying to get my head wrapped around triaging. I have a lot of time that can be donated to this once I learn what to do :P05:37
rrittenhouseHobbsee: I just did a search for the package in LP and I thought that network-manager-applet would have been the right one..05:38
Hobbseerrittenhouse: bugs go by source packages, not binary packages, to start with05:39
rrittenhousehmm ok05:39
Hobbseei'd guess you found network-manager-gnome?05:39
Hobbseeoh, wait, yes it is05:40
Hobbseei can't spell.05:40
Hobbseenetwork-manager-applet | 0.7~~svn20081020t000444-0ubuntu1 | http://archive.ubuntu.com intrepid/main Sources05:40
rrittenhousehmm05:40
Hobbseerrittenhouse: so, that would either go to the applet, or network-manager itself.  I have a suspicion that network-manager itself should get the card to refresh the available networks after a suspend, so i'd send it to network-manager05:41
Hobbsee(because that should happen no matter which frontend gets used)05:41
rrittenhousetrue. :)05:42
rrittenhouseHobbsee: Thank you. I'm sure i'll have a lot more questions if thats ok :D05:45
Hobbseerrittenhouse: you're welcome.  I'm heading out to work, but i'm sure others will be happy to answer05:46
rrittenhousethanks again05:46
rrittenhouseAssigning packages to bugs; Does that count for 5-a-day? :P05:50
Hobbseeyes05:50
rrittenhouseI thought it read that way on the wiki. Neat. That'll be a good start. I felt that trying to duplicate the bugs or asking for certain info for every little problem was an overwhelming place to jump in.05:52
dholbachgood morning06:13
thekorngood morning07:38
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LaibschIs there a kind soul to push https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mailgraph/+bug/221010 into -proposed?11:50
ubottuLaunchpad bug 221010 in mailgraph "homepage for mailgraph has moved" [Low,In progress]11:50
LaibschThe fix is obvious and I think 0 regression potential11:50
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reichi, I just started to help with bugs and now i could use some kind of mentor with: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/295414  -  things are getting a little confused, I'm not quite shure whether the bug is filed under the right package and whether the duplicate linked there is really related to "our" bug...12:57
ubottuLaunchpad bug 295414 in network-manager "Wireless network keeps disconnecting in Intrepid" [Undecided,Confirmed]12:57
charlie-tcareic: I believe that bug 297022 is back to the WPA failing, while 295414 is driver failing. That would13:07
ubottuLaunchpad bug 297022 in network-manager "Network Manager Problem (dup-of: 295414)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/29702213:08
ubottuLaunchpad bug 295414 in network-manager "Wireless network keeps disconnecting in Intrepid" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/29541413:08
charlie-tcamake 297022 not a duplicate.13:08
charlie-tcaPer comment #12, your bug can be reproduced without network manager, making it probably driver.13:09
reicthx charlie-tca, i thought so too, but wasn't quite sure...13:09
charlie-tcaIf Tobias and Diabolo have the same issues, you might want to make it against the kernel, for that is13:11
charlie-tcawhere the drivers are, normally, now13:11
reicso back to package linux, right? is there anything else i can do now, or will someone from bugcontrol set it to triaged and we'll just have to wait?13:12
charlie-tcaYea, unless the driver is in it´s own package. I´ll triage it if you have all the logs,etc13:13
reici first put it under linux, so i think the logs should yet be attached. thanks a lot! :)13:15
charlie-tcanp, some of these are really hard to keep straight. Keep trying, it comes with time13:19
reicthx, I will :)13:19
charlie-tcaThat dup was a good catch!13:19
charlie-tcareic: done13:24
reicthanks a lot! I'll check in here later... cya!13:25
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chadwikcan someone have a look at bug 295311 for me pls, i'm not sure whether to set it as confirmed by the 2nd commenter as the hardware appears to be very similar, or set it to triaged and leave it to the kernel team to decide if its confirmed?14:53
ubottuLaunchpad bug 295311 in linux "Backlight brightness does not change on Gateway P-6317 laptop" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/29531114:53
toobaz1Hello. Bug 257797, opened since August renders a package (drgeo, ~700 installs on popcon) totally unusable. But unfortunately its Importance is still "Undecided". Since this is slightly frustrating, is there something I can do to solve the problem? Now a patch was provided, but I'm afraid it's veeeeery low on the sponsorship queue, since of its low importance.14:59
ubottuLaunchpad bug 257797 in drgeo "segment fault" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/25779714:59
angusthefuzzchadwik: i would ask the second commenter to file a new bug, as many times these things are very hardware specific.  I would still confirm the bug, as you have followed the kernel debug procedures and all the files are collected.15:00
chadwikangusthefuzz: thanks, it should be set to confirmed rather than triaged even with the hardware being different?15:04
angusthefuzzchadwik: i think your decision to set it to either triaged or confirmed should ignore the second commenter, because as you said, the hardware is different15:06
angusthefuzzchadwik: if you have enough experience and think that it is a genuine bug with enough detail for a fix, then set it to triaged, otherwise it should be confirmed.15:07
chadwikangusthefuzz: ahh ok i see, i'll set it to confimed. thanks again15:07
angusthefuzzchadwik: if the second commenter makes a new bug, and it happens to be the same root cause, we can duplicate it easy enough15:08
angusthefuzzchadwik: thank you for helping15:08
AnAntHello, can someone have a look at: bug 29273815:53
ubottuLaunchpad bug 292738 in console-setup "console-setup needs to be run manually to set fonts for VTs" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/29273815:53
hggdhall: I eeebotu (#ubuntu-bugs-announce) will stop for 5 minutes for a system restart due to package upgrades17:55
bddebianBoo17:57
bucket529hggdh: Upstream patch (diff) attached to bug 11798418:06
ubottuLaunchpad bug 117984 in evolution-data-server "Weather calendar getting wrong data" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/11798418:06
hggdhbucket529, will look at it, thanks18:07
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hggdhbucket529, let's have a private chat18:19
bucket529hggdh: Thanks for your help18:50
chrisccoulsonjust looking at bug 29814018:54
ubottuLaunchpad bug 298140 in ubuntu "System logs can grow to unmanageable levels, consume entire root filesystem" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/29814018:55
chrisccoulsonit seems like a feature request18:55
chrisccoulsonbut shouldn't bug reports be raised against whatever daemons are spamming logs?18:55
chrisccoulsoni know there is effort in the kernel to not fill up log files excessively18:55
krychekwow the number of new bugs is going down19:03
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pwnguinkrychek: is it people giving up or software getting better?19:20
krychekpwnguin: i guess old "new" bugs are being set to incomplete if theyre still an issue19:23
pwnguinlets say i were really insane -- is it possible to run and test jaunty yet?19:24
chrisccoulsonof course19:24
chrisccoulson;)19:24
chrisccoulsoni'm running it at the moment19:24
pwnguinok19:24
chrisccoulsonbut only in a virtual machine19:24
pwnguini guess i'll put that on my todo for tonihgt19:24
krychekim not gonna upgrade before release anymore19:24
chrisccoulsoni would run unstable all the time but my girlfriend would not approve of it19:25
pwnguini have a dual boot system19:25
chrisccoulsonkrychek - why?19:25
pwnguinwhen things break, i've still got a stable ubuntu install19:25
krychektoo many problems.. i still have 3-4 big problems with intrepid19:25
pwnguinbut no point in trying if the archive hasn't been rebuilt etc19:25
chrisccoulsonyou can definately upgrade to jaunty if you're brave enough, but bare in mind that the repositories are in a state of major flux at the moment19:26
pwnguinkrychek: i hear that there's a targetted goal to reduce the number of bugs in jaunty (over say new features)19:26
krychekthat sounds good19:27
pwnguinchrisccoulson: i'm fine with that, as long as there's a consistant set out there. there's some bugs fixed in gnome upstream i'd like to test again19:27
pwnguinchrisccoulson: ive been running ubuntu+1 on my laptop since like edgy19:28
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mikes80Hey guys, I'm trying to learn how to assign bug packages. I've read some stuff on the wiki and watched the screencast. But am still a little confused about how to figure what the right package is. Would I be correct in saying it is the source package that the bug needs to be assigned to?22:49
angusthefuzzmikes80: that is correct, you always assign to the source package22:51
angusthefuzzmikes80: what is the bugnumber22:51
mikes80Thanks. 29817722:52
angusthefuzzbug 29817722:53
ubottuLaunchpad bug 298177 in ubuntu "OpenOffice 3.0 save to smb network fails" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/29817722:53
mikes80Yeah that's the one. How do I figure it out. https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source?22:54
calcsource would be 'openoffice.org'22:54
angusthefuzzcalc: doesnt it sound like it might be past openoffice, like nautilus perhaps?  since the save dialog allows the user to select the share, but the credentials are handled later?22:55
calcoh its almost certainly openoffice, of course the user didn't actually give enough data to be useful, they shoul dhave used apport "Help->Report a bug"22:56
calcsince i can't tell which version they are actually using22:56
angusthefuzzokay calc22:56
calcthe used some weird OOo build number, not even sure where that shows up22:56
calcthey also didn't mention whether they were using gnome or kde, etc22:57
mikes80Guess I picked a bad bug for my first one :/22:58
calcand the OOo 3.0 packages (that i created anyway) haven't been changed in several weeks (or a month maybe) so the fact that it used to work but now doesn't sounds like they may be using some other packages entirely22:58
calcmikes80: hehe :)22:58
calcmikes80: well it still goes to openoffice.org package but the user didn't really give enough information to determine what is going on22:58
angusthefuzzmikes80: you could also set status to incomplete and ask for the info we were discussing :-)22:59
mikes80Okay. How do i request more info. In the comments section?23:00
angusthefuzzmikes80: yes, your you can click the down arrow next to the word New23:01
angusthefuzz*or23:01
angusthefuzzmikes80: were you able to find what I was referring to?23:06
mikes80Yeah sorry. Thanks for the help. :) Hope i've done it right.23:08
mikes80So the incomplete status, is for bugs that don't have enough info?23:08
angusthefuzzlooks like you have, thanks for helping mikes8023:08
angusthefuzzmikes80: you might find this useful, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Status23:09
angusthefuzzmikes80: but yes, if you have to ask a question, the bug is incomplete23:09
calcmikes80: well exact ubuntu version would have been more precise but what you said should be enough to get him to hopefully respond with the correct information :)23:10
mikes80Great thanks guys.23:10
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