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giverahh,have volume,very low00:00
giverfrom the sat tuner00:00
givershould I use any other than alsa?00:02
giverhumm,in mythbuntu setup,when I select mythbuntu option the pc hangs00:52
giverin utilities/setup>setup>mythbuntu00:52
giverwhat that option supose to do?00:53
giverohh,i see,suppose to be mcc00:54
giverbut doesnt start from here for me00:54
giverpc hangs00:54
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zippytech2just installed 8.10 on a new drive with a PVR-150 and none mce remote works on 8.04 bata 1 but booting to 8.10 no go any i deal what's changed?01:09
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zippytech2just installed 8.10 on a new drive with a PVR-150 and none mce remote works on 8.04 bata 1 but booting to 8.10 no go any idea01:12
LonEaglehey, anyone have anygood ideas on how i could merge an old mythtv install with mythbuntu?01:50
LonEaglereally just want to copy the recordings over01:50
hadsJust copy the recordings and the database01:50
hadsYou should be good to go01:51
LonEaglemaybe i can upgrade mythtv on the old box and then update the database01:51
hadsmythbackend will upgrade the database automatically for you.01:51
LonEagleyeah but i'm not going to want to overwrite the database eh?01:51
hadsOr do you have two active databases?01:51
LonEaglewon't that totally screw up the permissions that mythbuntu sets up?01:51
LonEagleno the old box isn't active right now.  just built a new box today.01:52
hadsWell if you haven't started using the new one yet (i.e. there's nothing in the databse you care about) then copy over the recordings and the database01:52
LonEaglejust the mythwhatever database, right, not the one with the mysql settings in it, right?01:53
hadsYeah01:53
hadsmysqldum mythconverg > my_database_backup.sql01:53
hadsmysqldump mythconverg > my_database_backup.sql01:53
LonEagleoh right mysqldump.01:53
LonEaglethen reconfigure all the settings, right01:54
hadsmyth stores all it's settings in the database01:54
hadsOn the new box `mysql mythconverg < my_database_backup.sql`01:55
LonEagleyeah.  well the old box wasn't working with some of the new stuff01:55
LonEagleso i'll still have to tinker01:55
fuxxyThe first time I installed the remote frontend on my ubuntu box, it prompted for some setup information. I've since uninstalled and reinstalled the frontend, How come it's not prompting for setup information again?01:57
LonEagleprobably because you didn't purge the configuration files when you uninstalled01:58
fuxxyLonEagle, I didn't know I was supposed to, I told the package manager to do a complete uninstall..01:59
fuxxyso how do I purge the configuration files?02:00
LonEaglewait that should have02:00
hadsmythfrontend stores it's access details in ~/.mythtv02:00
fuxxyhads, so it's safe to remove the entire ~/.mythtv02:01
fuxxy?02:01
hadsMaybe, depends if you want anything that's in there.02:01
fuxxyhads, shouldnt be anything important to me.02:02
fuxxysigh. It still didn't prompt me for configuration options02:08
hadsWhat do you want to setup?02:09
fuxxyI think I'm missing an option somewhere to specify the backend location02:10
fuxxythis is a remote frontend-only machine.02:10
hadsYou can do it in the frontend setup02:10
fuxxyI can see information in the mysql database, but the frontent pops up the error complaining that it can't connect to the backend server.02:10
hadsSetup > General02:11
fuxxyI'm starting to think the problem is with the backend, but the backend logs aren't complaining.02:12
hadsIs it running?02:12
fuxxyeverything looks correct in setup > general02:12
fuxxyyeah, the backend's running, I'm watching tv on the local frontend at the moment.02:12
hadsYou might have 127.0.0.1 in the backend setup02:12
hadsRun mythtv-setup on the master backend02:13
fuxxyhads, possibly.02:13
fuxxyneed to shut down the backend first, and the wife is still watching House :)02:16
fuxxyThanks, give me a few minuites.02:17
fuxxyyep, 127.0.0.1 for the local backend as well as the master backend.02:23
fuxxyshould I set both of those to the external IP of the box?02:23
hadsYeah02:23
fuxxyor better yet, will a hostname work?02:23
hadsNever tried, I'd use an IP02:23
fuxxyI run dns on my local network.02:23
fuxxyokay, it's a static ip, should be fine.02:24
hadsYeah, I just dish out static IP's with DHCP02:24
fuxxyso that should be it on the backend, correct?02:25
hadsYup02:26
fuxxyit worked02:28
fuxxyhah!02:28
fuxxyOne more question though, I've only got a PVR-150 on my backend. It displays fine on my TV on the local frontend, but now, on my laptop at 1440X1050, the video looks grainy and blurry.02:29
foxbuntufuxxy, thats because its SD and by default the capture res is 480x48002:37
fuxxyfoxbuntu, that's what I thought, just wanted someone to verify, thanks.02:39
MythbuntuGuest42Hi guys/gals. I'm trying to install a new Mythbuntu secondary backend/frontend system. I've already setup a primary backend, and it's working fine.02:48
MythbuntuGuest42I'm in the middle of the install for the FE/2ndary BE, and am stuck at the step where I configure the connection to the master backend.02:48
hadsGo into mythtv-setup on the master backend and set the IP to the IP of the backend rather than 127.0.0.1 :)02:49
MythbuntuGuest42For the MySQL Server, the default was localhost.02:49
MythbuntuGuest42Whoa, sorry, didn't see your r4esponse.02:49
MythbuntuGuest42I'm pretty sure I did that when I installed the master backend, but I'm going to re-check that right now.02:50
hadsSure, just making sure, I've just been helping someone else with that :)02:50
MythbuntuGuest42Cool, thanks.02:50
hadsYou'll want to run mythtv-setup on the secondary backend (if you want to use it as a slave backend)02:50
hadsIf you just want to run a frontend then you'll only need to config in the frontend.02:51
MythbuntuGuest42Yes, on the masterBE, I just ran backend-setup, and the local IP is set to 192.168.3.5.02:51
hadsCool02:51
MythbuntuGuest42Do I need to use the Security PIN somehow, on the frontend?02:51
hadsShouldn't do02:52
hadsYou'll need to put in the backend settings and the mysql settings.02:52
hadsAnd that should be it02:52
MythbuntuGuest42Also, to be honest, I'm not clear what a secondary backend is for. I intended the FE to just be a FE, but since itt has a 200Gb disk I thought I'd make it an addl BE as well.02:52
hadsThe only reason you need a slave backend is for adding extra tuners in that box, running jobs (like comflagging), or extra storage.02:53
MythbuntuGuest42On the FE, I entered all of the SQL values from the mysql.txt on the BE. For the server name, I tried the hostname (mythbe), and also tried the IP.02:53
hadsThat should work02:54
MythbuntuGuest42OOhhh - so if the secondaryBE has a tuner card, I can record another channel? Very cool!02:54
hadsYeah, you can put as many tuner cards as you want in each backend.02:54
MythbuntuGuest42Anyway, back to the problem at hand - I switched to a different tty, and tried pinging the BE - no problem.02:54
MythbuntuGuest42I can ping it by name or IP.02:54
hadsCan you connect to mysql running on the backend from the frontend?02:54
foxbuntuand if you are an insane person like someone I might know, you can have 11 tuners and 2.25TB of storage02:54
MythbuntuGuest42I don't know. How would I try that?02:54
MythbuntuGuest42If only I could afford that!02:55
hadsYou can test that in mythbuntu-control-center02:55
foxbuntulol02:55
hadsOr on the CLI if you prefer02:55
foxbuntuI have bought most of it over several years02:55
MythbuntuGuest42I haven't completed the install yet, so no MCC.02:55
MythbuntuGuest42CLI will do02:55
TheBlasphemerfoxbuntu: I have 4 tuners and 500GB, do I already qualify for insane ;)?02:55
hads`mysql -h frog -u hads -p` - adjust to suite02:56
foxbuntuno, that normal02:56
MythbuntuGuest42OK, give me a minute. BRB02:56
hadserm suit02:56
foxbuntuTheBlasphemer, 4 is fairly common02:56
TheBlasphemeraaaw, shoot...02:56
hadsI only have 3 physical tuners :)02:56
TheBlasphemerfoxbuntu: Yeah, figured, 2 doesn't quite cut it with 2 subsequent recordings on one channel overlapping slightly, and with the PVR-500 set it's pretty easy to add 2 more :p02:57
foxbuntuI actually own a startup business dealing with MythBuntu devices thus the number tuners02:57
TheBlasphemerhads: I have two Hauppauge PVR 500's :)02:57
hadsYeah but you can't do multirec with those :)02:57
TheBlasphemermultirec02:57
TheBlasphemer?02:57
hadsWith DVB you can record all the channels off a multiplex at the same time.02:57
foxbuntuhads, yeah...I havent tried multirec yet...I gotta get several other things working first02:58
TheBlasphemerAh02:58
TheBlasphemerI don't do digital yet02:58
foxbuntuTheBlasphemer, one tuner all channels on the multiplex02:58
TheBlasphemerAnalog is good enuff for me :)02:58
foxbuntuTheBlasphemer, thats how it starts02:58
hadsWorks well, 3 physical tuners and I can record everything that's on :)02:58
TheBlasphemerActually I think I recently read that apparently PAL (which I have) is better than NTSC which is why HDTV takes off so slow here02:59
hadsThey aren't _that_ different :)02:59
TheBlasphemerOh well02:59
TheBlasphemerI considered getting HDTV, but it just doesn't make sense here02:59
TheBlasphemerYou need one of those smartcards to watch it02:59
hadsYou're basically trading a couple of lines of resolution for frame rate.02:59
MythbuntuGuest42mysql -h <hostname> -u <username> -p <password>  ?03:00
hadsYah03:00
TheBlasphemerif you want to watch multiple channels, you need multiple smartcards (except if you only want the free ones, which are the first 3 only)03:00
TheBlasphemerAnd you need a set-top box, and multiple if you want to watch multiple channels at once (or have multiple TVs)03:00
hadsNearly beer o'clock03:00
TheBlasphemerAnd from what I heard, there are no actual PC tuners that accept the format the dutch providers are broadcasting in yet :(03:01
MythbuntuGuest42That syntax seems to have been expecting the dbname where I entered the password.03:01
hadsMythbuntuGuest42: Oh sorry, just -p and it will prompt for the password03:01
hadsWasn't paying attention03:01
MythbuntuGuest42ok03:02
hadsAnd yeah, you could put the database name (mythconverg) there03:02
MythbuntuGuest42awesome - I'm connected to mysql.03:02
MythbuntuGuest42Worked by IP, not by name.03:03
hadsOdd, you must have some issues there.03:03
fuxxyI know that the backend will stream recordings and livetv to the frontend, but what about the local videos, mp3's and pictures that are currently set up on the pre-existing frontend?03:03
hadsNo03:03
MythbuntuGuest42Hmm. My FE has a wifi card, but that's obviously not setup yet. I have a wifi-to-ethernet adapter that I'm using to run a hardwired to the FE right now.03:04
fuxxyare the location of those stored in the mysql database? (If I add them via sshfs/smbfs to the *new* frontend, will it confuse the OLD frontend?)03:04
MythbuntuGuest42I'm guessing there's something going on there.03:04
MythbuntuGuest42I guess I need to figure that out here on my end.03:05
MythbuntuGuest42Thanks for the help so far.03:05
hadsNo worries, g'luck :)03:05
MythbuntuGuest42Damn, sometimes I hate computers. I have no idea what's going on, but I just re-tried things, using the IP, and the test was successful.03:08
ZinnMythbuntuGuest42: Please watch your language.03:08
MythbuntuGuest42Moving on now....03:08
MythbuntuGuest42Thx again.03:08
hadsThat's a little sensitive Zinn :)03:09
MythbuntuGuest42I assume Zinn is a bot?03:10
hadsYah03:10
MythbuntuGuest47hello. i have 8.04 mythbuntu installed and after a power outage here i can no longer connect to it via vnc. it is a headless box in my furnace room. i can ssh into it fine. i have done a netstat and dont see anything on 5900. can someone give me some idea what i should do next?04:53
TimritMythbuntuGuest47=Timrit05:15
TimritI lost the ability to connect to my mythbuntu 8.04 backend over vnc. I can still access it over ssh. Anyone know what vnc server is used? netstat doesnt show port 5900 open. ps aux|grep vnc doesnt show anything. The box sits headless and keyboard/mouseless in my furnace room and it is a PITA to pull out and hook up to a monitor. Any thoughts would be great. Thanks.05:19
foxbuntuTimrit, x11vnc usually05:28
Timritfoxbuntu: should x11vnc show up in ps aux | grep x11vnc?05:29
foxbuntui just checked my machine and it does not05:30
Timrithmmm05:30
Timrithow about netstat | grep 5900?05:30
foxbuntusudo dpkg -l | grep x11vnc05:31
foxbuntuthat will tell you if its installed05:31
Timritit is05:32
Timritit is there05:32
foxbuntuok05:33
foxbuntuone sec05:33
foxbuntuit only shows up as active via netstat, so only when its connected05:34
Timritso now i have to figure out why it is not accepting connections05:34
Timriti have restarted the box.05:35
foxbuntuis gdm running?05:35
Timrithmmmm.05:36
Timritshould gdm-greeter be running?05:36
foxbuntunope05:36
foxbuntuit be logged in05:36
Timritcrap05:37
foxbuntux11vnc wont work if its not05:37
Timriti had auto login setup and working05:37
foxbuntuwell its apparently not05:38
Timriti would love to know what happened. it was fine for a while.05:38
Timritany way to pass those over ssh with -X?05:38
foxbuntucould have been an improper response to an update05:39
foxbuntuTimrit, I think it simpler to fix the problem and restart gdm05:39
foxbuntusudo nano /etc/gdm/gdm-cdd.conf05:40
Timritis pasteing 5 lines in here against the rules?05:41
foxbuntu?05:42
foxbuntuyes05:42
Timritah05:42
foxbuntu!pastebin05:42
Zinnwhen pasting more than 5 lines of data please use http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com so you don't flood the channel.  Then please post the link in the channel.05:42
Timritok05:42
foxbuntuTimrit, here is my working one: http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/m2217e54805:42
foxbuntuobviously with the username changed to <username>05:42
Timrithere is my grep of gdm05:43
Timrithttp://pastebin.ubuntu.com/71677/05:43
foxbuntuyeah05:43
foxbuntuI would suggest to just modify this file to make sure its the same as the one I pasted and restart gdm05:44
foxbuntusudo nano /etc/gdm/gdm-cdd.conf05:44
Timritedited......05:46
Timritrestarted....05:46
Timritand in!!!05:47
Timritwooooo hooooooo05:47
Timritthanks foxbuntu05:47
foxbuntunp05:47
Timritnow if i can fix my floating ip/problem with irssi/bitlbee..........05:47
foxbuntugl05:49
foxbuntuim off05:49
Timritfoxbuntu: thanks again. all is great!05:56
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MythbuntuGuest36Have any of you every used an air mouse with mythbuntu? Is there a proper way to set this up since there isn't mouse support in all menus/screens (e.g. can't click on videos)?06:29
doje_hello, could someone help with a usbuirt ?  the light flashes once and it's not sending correct signals06:30
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zippytechi installed mythbuntu 8.10 on a new hd and now the remote don't work but it works on  8.04 bata 1 PVR150 card any idea's where to look?15:42
giverI need some help with the nvidia 7050 video card,it doesn;t output one monitor and one tv at the same time,should I edit xorg manually?16:46
giverplus,the tv out is black and white16:46
gdusbabekI've looked through the documentation and couldn't find the answer to this:  Are the versions of mythbuntu tied to specific versions of mythtv (e.g., 0.20, 0.21, etc.)?17:44
Davieygdusbabek: yes17:46
Davieyalthough you could change it17:47
gdusbabekAre downgrades simple?  For example, I have a 0.20.2 backend and would like to configure a new frontend with mythbuntu.17:47
superm1no they're not simple generally...17:48
superm1you are better off upgrading your backend in most case17:48
gdusbabekI had a hard time getting the hauppauge blaster working the first time, I don't know if I should take my chances.  Something to look into I suppose.17:49
superm1can always make a backup of your 0.20.2 install17:49
superm1and if something goes badly wrong, restore that backup17:50
Davieyor try dual booting - then you can mount and cp over configs17:51
gdusbabekAll good ideas thanks.  I have a spare drive I could use to attempt a new system with.17:53
superm1yeah rsync the install from one drive to another.  if things fail at all, it's quite easy to restore that old drive17:54
gdusbabekI'll just need to schedule some downtime with the fam.17:54
Davieygdusbabek: book downtime in advance, send emails :)17:55
Lokiasehello, i'm having problems to connect wireless... when I use a cable it works always, wireless (belkin usb stick), gives me always ip 0.0.0.0 .... can someone help?18:21
Lokiaseyeah, tx for helping peopl18:29
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superm1!forums Lokiase|afk18:41
ZinnSorry I don't know about forums Lokiase18:41
superm1!forums | Lokiase|afk18:41
ZinnSorry I don't know about forums | Lokiase18:41
superm1jphillip, i think that | in someone's name breaks things ...18:42
superm1!forums18:42
ZinnThe Mythbuntu forums are located at http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=301.  If you aren't getting a timely response here, there are lots of very active individuals there that may be able to help.18:42
jphillipsuperm1 ya it will I use that to direct stuffs at them, hmmmm18:55
jphillipI can assume \s\|\s is safe I suppose18:56
jphillip!forums | Lokiase|afk19:11
ZinnLokiase|afk: The Mythbuntu forums are located at http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=301.  If you aren't getting a timely response here, there are lots of very active individuals there that may be able to help.19:11
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zippytech2i just upgraded to the 8.10 my pvr150 remote works on 8.04 bata, but not on 8.10 , odd thing is i have another remote that should not work but about have does it will change channels but not anythingk else21:41
zippytech2lol it;s my tv remote21:43
zippytech2i have it set for hauppauge remote21:44
henrik__Anyone knows when daily will be released for 8.10?22:04
superm1henrik__, i assume you mean 9.04?22:25
superm1we're migrating to a new build process for it, and it should start the same day the dailies for ubuntu 9.04 start...22:26
henrik__superm1, I was unclear in my previouse note, when will weekly for mythtv be available for 8.1022:30
superm1henrik__, ah that.  it's on hold for now, we'll probably be discussing it at the meeting this weekend though22:32
henrik__Please try to push int thru, I'm kind of depending on it to get mythtv to work on my ubuntu 8.10 (I was updateing it with weeklys for 8.04 untill it had the lame dependency problem)22:33
henrik__why is it on hold?22:36
superm1to get some other things worked on ( including porting the build process )22:41

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