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spadewarriorhi00:12
Lancelothow do i join a new network using xchat>01:21
Lancelot?01:21
Odd-rationaleLancelot: /connect irc.oftc.net ?01:22
Lancelotk, let me try01:22
Lancelotdidn't work :/01:26
Odd-rationaleLancelot: hmm... dunno then. i don't use xchat... i was just guessing... :P01:28
Lancelotlol, k, that's fine01:28
Lancelotthanks anyway though ;)01:28
Lancelotcan I use ubuntu 8.10 commands in my xubuntu terminal?02:00
TheSheepLancelot: depends, but mostly yes02:01
TheSheepLancelot: you will want to use 'mousepad' instead of 'gedit', that's for sure02:01
wormsxullahello. i have a usb adapter in which i put my phone memory card. on windows, when i "eject" it, the light turns off. on xubuntu, it doesn't shut down when i unmount it. is it normal?02:13
Necrosanyes02:14
wormsxullaso there is no way to be sure it's unmounted? it still appears in thunar02:15
mhd720hello03:25
aaron_can I use ubuntu 8.10 scripts in my xubuntu terminal?04:09
aaron_i mean, do they work?04:09
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Odd-rationaleLancelot: what kind of scripts?04:11
Lancelothttp://www.dailygyan.com/2008/11/10-things-you-should-do-immediately.html04:15
Lancelotthose ones, 0dd-rationale04:15
Odd-rationaleLancelot: you mean those commands?04:24
Odd-rationaleLancelot: all of those commands will work on all ubuntu machines...04:24
Odd-rationaleLancelot: although, i would reccomend getting the info off the official website...04:24
Odd-rationaleLancelot: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu04:25
Odd-rationaleLancelot: Nor am i particularly fond of acroread...04:26
Odd-rationaleLancelot: also, you might just want to install the "ubuntu-restricted-extras" meta-packages, as it contains flash, java, and a bunch more codecs...04:27
Odd-rationaleLancelot: libdvdcss2 and w32codecs can be gotten from medibuntu repo, as shown in the link i posted above.04:27
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Lancelotthanks, 0dd-rationale! :)05:57
R1cochetis there a disk partition/resize tool for hardy?06:11
Robb_Mgparted works R1cochet06:19
R1cocheti have a disk with 3 partitions and 2 OS's i would like to wipe both OS's, install 8.10 and take empty space and attack to old partition06:20
R1cochetattach*06:20
R1cochetRobb_M: can it create join to NTFS?06:20
R1cochetNevermind Thank ¥ou again06:21
Robb_Mim not sure, sorry...im helping in a mulitutde of rooms so im definately lagging in responses.06:24
R1cochetall good i checked their homepage and it says right there cant miss it06:24
R1cochet!gparted06:24
ubottugparted is a !GUI partitioning program. Type « sudo apt-get install gparted » in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php06:24
R1cochetfeatures page06:25
SmegzorI have a xubuntu install that locks up soon after X is started and before the login can be displayed.  It appears to be a problem with the graphics driver it wants to use.  How do I make it use vesa or something?07:28
volohi08:17
hankhi08:31
RAVTUXhello all09:18
RAVTUXGrey_Loki: hi09:21
gabkdllyhi09:22
RAVTUXgabkdlly: whats up?09:23
gabkdllyI am contemplating the possibility to privatize government.  What is up with you?09:24
RAVTUXrecovering from going to the dentist then biting my own lip when it was numb09:26
gabkdllyouch :(09:26
RAVTUXwhen the numbness wore off is it when it really hurt09:27
dosingratWhen trying to install from CD, just when the installer begins loading it switches to the ash shell. We didn't even get to keyboard settings. What might be a problem. ISO file downloaded from Xubuntu site. Thank you.10:40
noniehello,16:19
noniehow can i configure the wifi to 64bit wep passphrase16:20
nonieit shows me 40/128 setting16:20
nonieanyone?16:20
gabkdllyhi16:22
gabkdllymy network configuration tool is only showing me a hexidecimal option and an ascii option.  Then again, I am using gutsy.16:23
gabkdllynonie: did you just go ahead and try the 40/128 option?16:23
TheSheepmaybe they meant 40-128? you know, they can guess by the length of the passphrase you actually enter...16:26
viddgabkdlly, what kind of encryption do you have?16:30
gabkdllyI also use wep16:30
viddgabkdlly, wep only has hex and ascii16:31
viddgabkdlly, check your router's wep settings....it will be set to either hex or ascii16:32
gabkdllyyeah, sorry, I meant to tell that to nonie16:32
viddyou will want it to match16:32
viddah...nvmd then16:33
gabkdllylooks like we lost nonie16:33
nonieim still here just went to the restroom16:36
nonieyep i tried 40/128 just doest work16:36
nonieactually its in my office network16:37
nonieall is running except this16:37
noniei have pclinuxos running wifi without any problem16:37
viddnonie, perhaps you may want to look into wicd16:38
viddhttp://wicd.sourceforge.net16:39
noniewicd, is it on synaptics too.16:39
viddno16:39
nonieill check in the website you gave me. hold on.16:39
viddyou would need to either download the .deb or add the repo16:39
viddnonie, it will require you to completely uninstall the default network manager in *buntu16:40
nonienetwork manager in synaptics?16:41
viddnonie, when you try to install it, it will tell you the conflic16:45
viddfix the conflict and you will be good to go16:45
nonieok i wil try it right now.16:46
nonietnx guys.let you know if it works or not.16:46
viddnonie, i think wicd is used by pclinuxos by defaut16:47
noniegood, then ill be getting two linuxes working....16:47
noniedo i have to remove the network manager first?16:47
viddnonie, wicd is a wonderful tool....VERY simple to get working on any linux16:47
noniei added the wicd website in the repos and the public key16:48
viddnonie, just do the apt-get install.....16:48
nonieok16:48
* vidd added it via dpkg so his install was different16:48
nonieif you install wicd via synaptic it removes the network manager prior to install.16:54
noniejust doing it right now.16:54
nonie_insalled wicd but it cannot detect my wireless interface17:20
nonie_i used ndiswrapper to check the interface and it detects it.17:20
nonie_only on wicd it cannot.17:20
viddnonie_, you need to go into your /etc/network/interfaces and comment out the interface for it17:21
nonie_yep i did it17:22
nonie_the auto lo17:22
nonie_iface lo inet loopback17:22
nonie_it was automatically created after install17:23
nonie_i used application/system/wireless drivers to check if the wireless17:27
nonie_car is detected. but if i try to configure it.17:27
nonie_i cannot17:27
nonie_i configure the network and gives me an error cannot find configuration on network17:28
nonie_i chcked with ndiswrapper -l and it shows the wireless card17:33
nonie_strange...17:37
nonie_anybody?17:40
buzz_anyone here used the "remote desktop viewer" which comes with xubuntu - binary is called "vinagre". if i run it and put in an ip and press connect it jsut crashes!17:55
TheSheepbuzz_: does it show any messages when you run it from terminal?18:09
buzz_TheSheep, yup http://pastebin.com/m730d779f18:10
TheSheepbuzz_: looks like you found a bug, can you please report it?18:11
TheSheep!bugs | buzz_18:11
ubottubuzz_: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots18:11
buzz_thanks yeh i have plenty of open bugs on launchpad. but i was hoping others might have this problem, i fear it is only me,. aah well18:12
TheSheepbuzz_: it might be related to your graphics card and/or drivers18:12
buzz_it is this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vinagre/+bug/287542 but i am unable to fix it like this guy18:13
wormsxulla_hello. can i install a .rpm package on xubuntu?18:13
TheSheepwormsxulla_: yes, but it's not recommended18:13
TheSheepwormsxulla_: better find a deb18:13
wormsxulla_TheSheep: i couldn't find a deb :-( what is the difference?18:13
buzz_TheSheep, any other remote desktop client guis for gtk ?18:14
TheSheepwormsxulla_: rpm's are packages used by redhat and similar distros, they are from different distrbutions18:14
TheSheepwormsxulla_: so there may be difference in what goes where18:15
TheSheepbuzz_: I don't use any, so don't know18:15
buzz_ive confirmed that bug anyway, so it might get attention at some point. although i lost hope with all my open bugs on launchpad for kubuntu related stuff!18:15
wormsxulla_TheSheep: may i show you the site i've found with the package, so maybe you'll see if it's "maybe ok" or "not ok at all"?18:16
TheSheepwormsxulla_: sure18:16
wormsxulla_http://rpmfind.net/linux/rpm2html/search.php?query=mercury-messenger i want the last one in the table18:16
TheSheepwormsxulla_: http://mercury.im/#Download18:18
TheSheepwormsxulla_: does it have to be 1.8?18:19
wormsxulla_TheSheep: this only offers 1.9, and i want 1.818:19
wormsxulla_(i know, i'm weird)18:19
TheSheepwormsxulla_: http://thebachman.info/public/Versions_Ubuntu/mercury-messenger-1.8.deb18:19
wormsxulla_yes. 1.9 is full of bugs :)18:20
wormsxulla_oh18:20
wormsxulla_how did you find it?18:20
TheSheepwormsxulla_: I edited the url for 1.9 ;)18:21
wormsxulla_hmm, it points to 1.918:21
TheSheepbleh18:21
wormsxulla_:) you did what?18:22
TheSheepin the repo there is only 1.9 too :/18:23
wormsxulla_trying to upgrade me without my consent! ;-)18:23
TheSheepwormsxulla_: how about 2.0?18:23
wormsxulla_yeah, i wonder where old deb packages go, they seem to just vanish18:23
TheSheepwormsxulla_: you could ask them18:24
wormsxulla_TheSheep: i'm pretty sure it has (and don't want to experience) MORE bugs. - i've read the forums! i trust 1.818:24
wormsxulla_TheSheep: hehe18:25
wormsxulla_also, i'm on gutsy, so 2.0 will probably want me to be on hardy or something18:25
TheSheepI wouldn't know18:25
TheSheepwormsxulla_: btw, that rpm seems to be made from deb18:26
wormsxulla_nor i! :)18:26
TheSheepwormsxulla_: you could try it with alien18:26
TheSheep!alien18:26
ubottuRPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)18:26
wormsxulla_TheSheep: so that "could" work? according to Your Great Knowledge Of Those Things18:26
wormsxulla_ah18:26
TheSheepwormsxulla_: I have no personal experience with alien18:27
* wormsxulla_ kinda like aliens :)18:27
wormsxulla_but still, not everyone has the latest versions, aren't they kept in some big dustbin on the internet?18:28
wormsxulla_aren't the oldest, i mean18:28
TheSheepwormsxulla_: nope, the internet we use is already the dustbin18:29
wormsxulla_:)18:29
wormsxulla_you're using web 2.0, i'm still on 0.0918:30
viddwormsxulla_, alien is ok in a pinch....but in my experience, getting the latest deb...even if its a version or too behind the rpm works better then alien'ing the rpm in18:44
wormsxulla_vidd: ah. so i should try to find the latest 1.8 deb *somewhere*18:45
wormsxulla_humpf18:45
zoredacheyou could find the source package for 1.8 and recompile it18:46
wormsxulla_zoredache: i don't know how to compile :-(18:48
blender_what was the question18:49
wormsxulla_the question about "compile"?18:55
blender_just says "don't know how to compile"18:56
wormsxulla_yes. that's a fact, not a question :)18:57
blender_anyone know of a better way to use and install bitchx18:58
blender_so what are you trying to install?18:58
blender_compile?18:58
wormsxulla_mercury messenger 1.8 :)18:59
blender_and why do you compile that package19:00
blender_?19:00
blender_they have a .dev19:00
blender_.deb19:00
wormsxulla_i don't19:00
wormsxulla_they do?19:00
wormsxulla_where?19:01
blender_then what's the problem?19:01
blender_http://mercury.im/19:02
wormsxulla_finding the 1.8 deb package when everything which seem to still exist is 1.9 or 2.019:02
blender_is it just for support of msn chat?19:02
blender_the one they have listed is 1.019:03
blender_1.919:03
wormsxulla_so zoredache said: then compile it, and then you arrived while i said: i don't know how to, etc. etc.19:03
wormsxulla_no19:03
blender_compile is super easy19:03
wormsxulla_sure19:03
blender_depending on how many packages you're missing19:03
blender_generally the readme file explains everything19:03
blender_./configure19:04
blender_make19:04
blender_make install19:04
wormsxulla_blender_: thanks, but compiling isn't for me19:04
blender_three very simple commands19:04
blender_ok19:05
blender_so then...you don't have an issue19:05
Odd-rationalewhat about checkinstall19:05
Odd-rationale?19:05
Odd-rationale!checkinstall19:05
ubottucheckinstall is a wrapper to "make install", useful for installing programs you compiled. It will create a .deb package, which will be listed in the APT database and can be uninstalled like other packages. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall - Read the warnings at the top and bottom of that web page, and DO NOT interrupt CheckInstall while it's running!19:05
blender_yeah and19:06
blender_make clean19:06
blender_you know where a nice bitchx package might be found...other than bitchx.org19:07
blender_bitch.com19:07
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volohi21:39
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volo:)21:53
gasmaskHi. I set up a RAID 5 with mdadm, set it up with ext3 filesystem following this guide http://bfish.xaedalus.net/?p=188. I also added this line to fstab to mount on boot: /dev/md0 /var/media auto defaults 0 3. But when I reboot, the array is not mounted, and when I try to mount it, it says it doesn't exist! I then assemble the array with: mdadm --assemble /dev/md0 /dev/sda1 /dev/sdb1 /dev/sdc1 /dev/sdd1. I then can mount it.   How c22:04
gasmaskan I have this happen automatically?22:04
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zoredachegasmask: you might need to updated your /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf22:09
gasmaskhmmm, what would I need to add to it?22:09
zoredacheon my system I let the installer setup the array.  I have a line in there like this -- ARRAY /dev/md0 level=raid1 num-devices=2 UUID=77b3d5b0:fa7122be:77105787:fefc690b22:10
gasmaskok, I'll check that out22:11
zoredachedo a man mdadm.conf to information about the file.  My guess is that you would need to put something like that line that describes your array22:11
gasmaskok, thanks22:12
gasmaskawesome!22:13
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