| ia | hello, everybody. could someone, please, give me link to good manual for setting up bzr server to work with it via bzr:/-protocol? | 01:02 |
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| jfroy|work | quick question: how do I get the revno of the working-tree? | 01:36 |
| jfroy|work | I'm trying to find a regression by checking out old revisions of a branch, and I want to confirm the revno of the current working tree | 01:36 |
| verterok | jfroy|work: revision-info? | 01:45 |
| jfroy|work | That seems to give me the latest revno of the branch | 01:49 |
| jfroy|work | e.g., gives me the revno of bzr log -r -1 | 01:49 |
| jfroy|work | when a bzr st outputs a message stating my working tree is out of date | 01:49 |
| verterok | jfroy|work: according to bzr help version-info, it shows revision info of the tree | 01:56 |
| verterok | jfroy|work: you could do bzr update to get your tree up to date | 01:56 |
| jfroy|work | indeed, thanks | 01:56 |
| jfroy|work | no that's just the thing, I'm doing a regression analysis, and I wanted to make sure my tree was out of date (at a specific revision) | 01:57 |
| n[ate]vw | I'm trying to install bzr 1.9 on my web host, but getting a build error due to missing Python.h | 01:57 |
| n[ate]vw | How do I use this --allow-python-fallback that it recommends? | 01:57 |
| n[ate]vw | or where do I find an older version? | 01:58 |
| verterok | jfroy|work: maybe you can use lightweight checkouts to have different revisions of the tree around | 01:58 |
| verterok | n[ate]vw: I not an expert, but it looks like your server don't have the development files of python (headers, etc) | 01:59 |
| n[ate]vw | yeah, I'm assuming that's the problem, but the error diagnostic makes reference to this python fallback option | 02:00 |
| verterok | n[ate]vw: if it's a debian based distro, I'n sure a simple: apt-get install python-dev should solve the problem | 02:01 |
| n[ate]vw | but then I get "error: option --allow-python-fallback not recognized" | 02:01 |
| n[ate]vw | it's a shared host, so no can do | 02:01 |
| verterok | hmm, what version of python? | 02:02 |
| n[ate]vw | 2.5.1 | 02:02 |
| jfroy|work | verterok: version-info worked fine | 02:02 |
| verterok | jfroy|work: great! :) | 02:02 |
| jfroy|work | Although indeed, I am getting a bzr exception when trying to checkout if a tree already exits | 02:02 |
| jfroy|work | I have to remove-tree, then co again, with a different revno | 02:02 |
| verterok | jfroy|work: you could do the co in different dirs :) | 02:03 |
| jfroy|work | I don't really care to keep multiple trees | 02:03 |
| jfroy|work | I mean, I could, I suppose | 02:03 |
| jfroy|work | But I'm playing a game of "is it this one?" | 02:04 |
| verterok | hehe, ok. | 02:04 |
| verterok | n[ate]vw: could you pastebin the error? | 02:04 |
| verterok | and the command you are using? | 02:05 |
| n[ate]vw | verterok: http://pastebin.com/d61571c59 | 02:06 |
| n[ate]vw | (original command was 'python setup.py install --home ~/sw') | 02:07 |
| verterok | n[ate]vw: you could simply drop the source there, and bzr should "just work" (mileage may vary) | 02:08 |
| n[ate]vw | that's true, forgot about that option | 02:09 |
| * verterok bbiab | 02:12 | |
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| Leefmc | Question: I am attempting to branch a googlecode project via bzr-svn, and although bzr-svn is downloading the branch information (such as commit logs), it is not actually downloading any code.. Any thoughts as to why? | 12:42 |
| luks | it's not downloading the code at all (ie, the process has finished and no code was downloaded)? | 12:44 |
| Leefmc | luks: Correct | 12:45 |
| luks | that's weird | 12:45 |
| luks | how do you check that? | 12:45 |
| Leefmc | is "bzr branch http-addy-to-trunk" the correct command? | 12:46 |
| Leefmc | erm, minus a space, heh | 12:46 |
| Leefmc | luks: By looking in the directory and seeing zero code | 12:46 |
| luks | in most cases, yes | 12:46 |
| luks | Leefmc: what does `bzr info` say? | 12:46 |
| Leefmc | lemm rebranch it, one sec | 12:46 |
| luks | I think you just have a branch without a working tree | 12:46 |
| Leefmc | ohh thats right | 12:47 |
| luks | which `bzr checkout .` should fix | 12:47 |
| Leefmc | i forgot, if theres no working tree bzr wont show you code | 12:47 |
| Leefmc | that always trips me out. heh | 12:47 |
| luks | hm, I wonder why? | 12:47 |
| Leefmc | My minds all fluxxed from bzr-svn hybrids heh. | 12:48 |
| luks | bzr doesn't show you the code, your shell does | 12:48 |
| Leefmc | luks: Well, i ment that bzr physically hides the code, does it not? | 12:48 |
| luks | Leefmc: no | 12:48 |
| Leefmc | Oh well, maybe thats not the problem then.. lemme bzr info | 12:48 |
| luks | all bzr is interested in is the .bzr directory (in most cases) | 12:49 |
| luks | the working tree matters only if you try to e.g. commit | 12:50 |
| Leefmc | i dont wanna paste it all, so what are you looking for specifically? there is a shared repository, a repository branch, and a parent related branch | 12:50 |
| Leefmc | but the branch, only has one directory in it, .bzr. The file system has zero code in it | 12:50 |
| luks | try bzr checkout . | 12:50 |
| luks | or bzr log | 12:51 |
| luks | if bzr log list something, you just want to add the working tree | 12:51 |
| Leefmc | luks: Ah, you confused me before (or rather 4am with no coffee, confused me, more than likely) | 12:52 |
| Leefmc | luks: So bzr _does_ actually hide the code if you have no working tree | 12:52 |
| luks | Leefmc: it doesn't hide it, it simply doesn't exist | 12:52 |
| Leefmc | ie, without a working tree, code is not visable on the file system | 12:52 |
| luks | Leefmc: you can't hide something that doesn't exist :) | 12:52 |
| luks | well, that's obvious | 12:53 |
| luks | but the working tree is not hidden | 12:53 |
| Leefmc | luks: Well it must exist somewhere on it, because you can essentially download it from bzr when you checkout | 12:53 |
| luks | Leefmc: no, bzr only knows the data to generate it | 12:53 |
| luks | but it doesn't exist in the form of actual files | 12:54 |
| Leefmc | luks: Ah, well imo it still exists within bzr then haha, but now were splitting hairs :) | 12:54 |
| Leefmc | luks: Yea | 12:54 |
| Leefmc | luks: Anyway, thanks | 12:54 |
| Leefmc | luks: Have you delt with bzr-svn much? | 12:54 |
| luks | I wonder how did you get into this situation, though | 12:54 |
| Leefmc | luks: No working tree? | 12:54 |
| luks | yes | 12:55 |
| luks | it's not the default option | 12:55 |
| luks | do you have a repository created with `bzr init-repo --no-trees` or something? | 12:55 |
| Leefmc | luks: Its my workflow of choice, coming from git (gawd, i really do need coffee). I prefer to have many test branches, and one working one on the file system so i never jump around in my IDE. So i have --no-trees defined in my shared repo | 12:55 |
| luks | Leefmc: that's what surprises me, if you know enough to use the --no-trees option, I would have expected you know how to create a checkout :) | 12:56 |
| Leefmc | luks: I do, i just forgot that bzr hid (or rather, didnt make visable, however you wish to lookat it :o) the code within | 12:57 |
| luks | or at least non-existance of the checkout would not confuse you | 12:57 |
| luks | well, you _told_ it to do that | 12:57 |
| Leefmc | Its been a couple months since i've used bzr, so it confused me ;) | 12:57 |
| luks | so that should be the expected behavior | 12:57 |
| Leefmc | well, 4am and no coffee too haha | 12:57 |
| luks | ah :) | 12:57 |
| Leefmc | luks: Actually i told it "--no-trees", and really i had forgotten why i used it, aside from the fact that it allowed me to achieve my desired workflow. | 12:58 |
| Leefmc | So i told it "--no-trees" and i forgot i was telling it "--dont-give-me-any-visible-code" :o | 12:59 |
| luks | heh | 12:59 |
| Leefmc | anyway, i really do need coffee. Thank you for your patience. | 12:59 |
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| GaryvdM | Hi - Is there a way to suppress warnings in bzr. | 13:52 |
| GaryvdM | My client is using bzr-upload. It tries to set chmod's, but my client is using a IIS server for her site, so we get a warning for each file that it can't set the chmod. | 13:53 |
| GaryvdM | I would like to suppress these warning, as they are not a problem in this case. | 13:54 |
| LarstiQ | GaryvdM: I'd file a bug on bzr-upload | 14:10 |
| GaryvdM | Ok - It is a todo in their code. | 14:18 |
| LarstiQ | or fix it yourself if it's not too much trouble :) | 14:20 |
| gour | hi, anyone interested for some benchmark results (doing bzr's vs. gits' fast-import from darcs), take a look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/bzr-fastimport/+bug/232177 | 14:31 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 232177 in bzr-fastimport "Better darcs support needed" [Undecided,New] | 14:31 |
| gour | and i'm bit disappointed that bzr couldn't finish task in more than 5hrs which git did in 20mins :-( | 14:33 |
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| leefmc | Question: I accidentally made a checkout into a no-tree branch. How can i remove the checkout from that directory without harming the branch? | 16:04 |
| LarstiQ | leefmc: `bzr remove-tree` | 16:11 |
| leefmc | LarstiQ: Thank you. | 16:12 |
| leefmc | Wasn't sure if any of those would harm my branch, etc. | 16:12 |
| pygi | I know its saturday, but would anyone here be so kind to help me assemble a TOC? | 21:16 |
| mkanat | kiko: NASA used PRACA for the first time, live, for the Endeavour shuttle launch yesterday. :-) | 21:52 |
| mkanat | kiko: They use bzr for that, too. I think they use bzr as much as they can for their internal projects, now, actually. | 21:53 |
| mkanat | At least, at Ames HCI. | 21:53 |
| mkanat | kiko (and poolie, etc.): I have a little news article that's going to go live about PRACA on bugzilla.org. Maybe you could get them to make a little statement about bzr, too. They're pretty fond of it. :-) | 21:54 |
| kiko | mkanat, wow, no way! is that serious? | 21:59 |
| mkanat | kiko: Yeah! :-) http://www.bugzilla.org/news/#praca | 22:00 |
| mkanat | kiko: They started using it because I use it for ES projects. | 22:00 |
| mkanat | kiko: But bzr is super-convenient for them because there's SO much merging involved in what they do, and there's also a LOT of branching. | 22:00 |
| kiko | you are the man | 22:01 |
| kiko | that's a really cool story | 22:01 |
| mkanat | Thanks! :-) | 22:01 |
| kiko | let's try and get some news out on monday | 22:01 |
| mkanat | kiko: Okay. Do you want me to put you in touch with the people at Ames who use bzr? | 22:01 |
| kiko | yes, if you could forward an email to me I'll do the rest | 22:01 |
| mkanat | kiko: Okay. | 22:01 |
| kiko | nasa, how about that | 22:02 |
| mkanat | :-) | 22:03 |
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| lamalex | does anyone know who the loggerhead maintainer is? Does he/she hang out in here at all? | 23:11 |
| lamalex | I submitted a bug with a patch a few nights about but there's been no activity on the bug | 23:12 |
| lamalex | s/about/ago | 23:12 |
| pygi | lamalex, I think its Michael Hudson | 23:14 |
| pygi | not sure | 23:14 |
| jelmer | lamalex, yeah, Michael Hudson (mwh) or Martin Albisetti (beuno) | 23:46 |
| lamalex | jelmer: pygi: thanks | 23:46 |
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