[01:44] how do you install the edubuntu cdrom via loopback ? [01:44] edubuntu addon [01:53] Should just be able to mount -o loop blah.iso /media/cdrom [01:53] but I've never done it that way [01:54] yeah tried it .. doesnt load the package manager [01:54] just burning an iso in the meantime [01:56] well that works [01:57] yeah, I don't think manually mounting a loopback iso's gonna fire the HAL scripts you need. [01:57] You could just point Synaptic at it manually [01:57] But, since you're burning already :) [01:57] yeah thought about that too [01:57] got given an old laptop so figured i'd throw edubuntu on it for my sisters kids [01:57] and give it to them [01:58] I'm sure they'll have a hoot with it. [01:58] yeah provided the depsolving works with no internet / network access :) [01:59] yeah im sure they will too [02:01] thanks for answer regarding the hal stuff .. had forgot about that ... thought there might of been a script on the cd to launch [02:02] cd seems to humming along okay so far ... would be nice to not use the cd tho and launch via loopback even if it's script to kick it off [02:07] Wonder if there's an "apt-iso" method. [02:24] and failure .. no network connectivity [02:24] wants libgsm :) [02:25] and libavcodec [02:28] most of it seems to work tho [02:29] evening all [02:33] Evening LaserJock! [02:35] sbalneav: how's it going? [02:39] Going good! [02:39] Doing a little "manual labour" this evening :) [02:55] sbalneav: the inside or outside kind? [02:58] The LTSP docs kind :) [02:59] ah [02:59] heh [02:59] sbalneav: you got a bzr branch for that? [02:59] I surely do! [03:00] lp:~ltsp-docwriters/ltsp/ltsp-docs-trunk [03:08] sbalneav: wow, lots of info there [03:08] up to 70 pages now. [03:09] That's what I'd ultimately like to package up somehow [03:09] I'd like people to type "apt-get install ltsp-docs" and get: [03:09] the pdf [03:10] the one big html page [03:10] and if we could somehow make that appear in the gnome help thingy, that'd be great too. [03:11] I think the pdf is sort of the mmost difficult [03:12] gnome help is fairly trivial [03:12] HTML is fairly easy [03:16] Well, the pdf's probably the least necessary of the 3 [03:21] sbalneav: do you need all the autotools stuff? [03:25] Well, makes it handy. [03:26] Wait [03:26] in the package you mean? [03:26] Oh, no [03:26] That's just for building the wibbly bits. [03:31] sbalneav: I just wondered if you really need all that [03:32] sbalneav: you could probably just use a Makefile I'd think [03:33] Someone else coded it up nicely, so I'm just using it :) [04:29] hi. ubuntu ltsp server is up and running well [04:29] :) [04:35] Good. [04:40] now i'm hoping to figure out the ITALC before messing it up royally [04:41] i've been fighting a firewall all week. seems the NICS are taking the same IRQs and i'm still working on it :( [04:45] nn [04:58] i have a question. we'd like to use wacom tablets for art class. usb. is this possible? [04:59] Don't know, I'v never used them [04:59] but I know people HAVE used tablets of some kind on Ubuntu. [05:01] tablets on ubuntu works. you think they will work on a fat client ? or thin client? [05:01] we'd like to use plastic animation paper and artrage [05:02] artrage requires wine. a security risk? [05:02] should windows programs be installed with sudo or as a user [05:03] * Ahmuck needs sleep :( [05:05] well, i need to shut down. i'll be back to ask questions i suppose. is there a meeting next wednesday? [05:07] Ahmuck: we haven't decided on the next meeting [05:08] Ahmuck: watch the edubuntu-users list for an announcement [05:08] LaserJock: So, I got an LTSPManual.xml file. How to I make it appear in Yelp? [05:09] yelp file:///LTSPManual.xml [05:10] You just think yer sooooo smart, don't you. Fancy-pantsed phd boy, with yer simple solutions and rock-n-roll music. [05:11] heah, that's why they pay me the big bucks ;-) [05:11] but with the edubuntu handbook, we had it appearing on the menu on the side. How was that happy magic performed? [05:12] oh, well you install a omf file and call scrollkeeper [05:13] or hmm, that wasn't exactly your question was it [05:13] looks like pap might be a challenge to run on ltsp without copying to every home directory [05:13] having it appear on the side menu is actually totally hackish crap [05:13] k, nn 4 sure now [05:13] the initial menu that you get in yelp is all hard coded [05:13] ah, ok [05:14] sbalneav: you know what you need [05:14] you should have a LTSP diagnostics tool [05:14] A good swift kick in the goolies? [05:14] you run it and it pops up yelp with the help [05:14] Oh, right a diagnostic tool :) [05:15] *and* like puts together all the relevant stuff for a bug report [05:15] We had one of those YEARS ago. Yeah, it'd be great to get one going again. [05:15] like the lts.conf or whatever that is [05:15] Wasn't that hard. [05:15] Excellent idear. [05:15] Where would it send it to? [05:16] Probably better if it just wrote "ltsp-debug.txt" somewhere. [05:16] yeah, that's like a half-a-day hack job. [05:16] yeah, don't need to get all fancy [05:17] I like it. [05:17] but just having a little menu item that'd be like "Help for LTSP" [05:17] I'll do it this weeked. [05:17] You got the manual there? [05:18] Do a yelp on it [05:18] I'm seeing "book.labelLTSP" [05:18] wonder where that's coming from [05:21] where do you see that? [05:25] Right on the first page [05:25] when it first pops up. Upper left, under the big title [05:27] I don't get that [05:27] but I've seen that sort of thing before [05:30] you on intrepid or harrrrrdy [05:30] intrepid [05:31] I'm on harrrrrdy, so maybe it's just a bugaboo [05:31] well, I swear I saw something like that on a different xml file the other day [05:31] I don't think it'll end up in the final product though [05:36] update your branch and check out my new subtitle :) [05:37] lol! [05:39] Hey, if you can't have some fun with it, what's the point. [05:47] * LaserJock strangles KDE [05:47] why is it that they can manage to have a configuration for *everything* but the one thing I want [05:51] I've met Aaron Seigo, and he like TOTALLY hates PHD Chemists. [05:51] THIS WAS HIS REVENGE HAHAHAHAHAHAHA [05:52] No, really, I dunno :) [05:58] sbalneav: dude, I didn't tell you. I got to contribute an honest-to-goodness C++ patch today to a chemistry app [05:59] No way [05:59] O RLY? [05:59] I had to do GTK and everything [06:00] is was mostly a "copy-n-past then modify" job [06:00] but I came up with the idea, hacked it in an afternoon, and got to commit it [06:00] felt good [06:00] Sniff, our little LaserJock, all grown up. [06:00] lol [06:00] If we ever go back to paris, I bet he wont even WANT to go to subway. [06:01] Today, my son, you are.... A MAN!!!! [06:01] Good for you dude! [06:01] Do that for another 15 years, and you can turn out like me [06:01] no, wait. [06:01] run while you can :) [06:01] heh [06:02] Which app? [06:03] gnome chemistry utils [06:03] the main author has been working on a chemical spectrum viewer [06:03] Coolio [06:03] and he had a nifty X-axis adjuster thing [06:03] and I was using it and was like, dude, I need the Y-axis too [06:04] it wasn't purely copy-n-paste because the 2 axes need to be treated differently [06:04] but I added some widgets, spin button and a slider, and got everything hooked up [06:04] and it actually worked [06:09] Rockin! [06:13] well, time for bed [06:14] are we doin' our little bug thing tomorrow night? [06:14] Gonna try [06:14] Should be on around 9 central [06:14] hopefully I'll have some time [06:15] I need to work on both my car and my wife's tomorrow [06:15] PhD Chemisty student + car == looooong time [06:16] Working on your wife will be more fun. [06:16] Oh, wait, working on your wife's CAR, my mistake :) [06:16] pffft [06:16] you Canucks really can't read can you ;-p [06:17] good night [06:17] Night dude! [06:17] I'm off too.