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[10:12] <histo> Saroset: you there
[10:12] <Saroset> histo, I'm in here.
[10:13] <histo> Alright explain to me what happened from the begining.
[10:13] <Saroset> Okiedokie.
[10:13] <Saroset> The windows boot manager kept telling me that Windows failed to start when I was attempting to load the Kubuntu install CD.
[10:13] <Saroset> I asked for advice in IRC and got absolutely nothing, soooo I went out and researched.
[10:13] <Saroset> I managed, after a few tries, to replace the boot manager.
[10:14] <histo> what did you do to replace it?
[10:14] <Saroset> I installed something. It did work.
[10:14] <histo> Do you remember what that was or how you installed it?
[10:15] <Saroset> http://www.boot-us.com/
[10:15] <Saroset> I realized it wouldn't load from CD and then very rapidly managed to delete the windows partition and the boot manager itself. (PEBKAC there.)
[10:15] <histo> well just so you know the windows error you were receiving had nothign to do with kubuntu.
[10:15] <Saroset> Hm?
[10:16] <histo> That error comes up when windows fails to start ex: if you reset the machine while windows is loading. But you can just select "Start windows normally" and it would boot in to windows.
[10:16] <Saroset> Wasn't trying to boot into Windows. Was attempting to get the Kubuntu CD to load.
[10:17] <histo> How did you delete the windows partition?
[10:18] <Saroset> Using boot-us while in windows.
[10:18] <Saroset> And then... I restarted the computer. *sigh*
[10:19] <histo> It sounds like you just deleted the mbr not actually the window partition it self.
[10:19] <Saroset> Hope?
[10:19] <histo> If you want yoru windows back you can boot a  windows cd in recovery mode then select fixmbr.  If not and you want ot install kubuntu. We need to make sure your machine can atleast boot to a cd.
[10:20] <histo> Which do you want to do?
[10:20] <Saroset> Would prefer to try Kubuntu.
[10:20] <histo> So you don't need any of your windows stuff or data correct?
[10:20] <Saroset> But! My computer keeps attempting to load to NIC, no matter what I do.
[10:20] <Saroset> Nope.
[10:20] <histo> Yeah thats just the bios for the nic.
[10:21] <histo> Alright can you get in the bios right now and tell me what the boot sequence is set to?
[10:22] <Saroset> 1. USB Floppy 2.ATAPI CD/DVD ROM Drive 3. Notebook Hard Drive 4. USB Diskette on Key 5. USB Hard Drive 6. (Disabled) Network Adapter
[10:22] <Saroset> Apparently, disabled means use only.
[10:23] <histo> no that screen you see is just a post screen built in to your hardware. Its not actually trying to boot off of it.
[10:23] <histo> alrigth and when you have the kubuntu cd in and try to boot the computer just goes to the network card boot screen?
[10:23] <Saroset> Yah.
[10:23] <histo> Alright well disable everything but the cdrom.
[10:23] <Saroset> Keeps trying to connect, fail, connect, fail.
[10:24] <histo> Save and exit
[10:24] <Saroset> Doesn't allow them to be disabled.
[10:24] <histo> Put the cdrom first
[10:24] <histo> IS the network card listed in the boot sequence?
[10:25] <Saroset> As disabled, yes.
[10:25] <histo> There should be an option in teh bios somewhere for netboot. Look also for a setting called netboot.
[10:25] <histo> peripherials
[10:25] <Saroset> Internal Network Adapter Boot?
[10:25] <histo> yes
[10:26] <Saroset> Currently disabled.
[10:26] <histo> k. Now make sure the kubuntu cd is in and save and exit.
[10:26] <histo> Make sure you watch the screen as it boots it may say something like "press any key to boot from cd"
[10:27] <histo> Or it may have an option like Press F10 for boot manager.
[10:27] <Saroset> Nothing. Just jumped straight to attempting boot from network.
[10:27] <histo> Okay did you see anythign like press F1 or F2 F3 F4 etc... to configure. prior to that screen?
[10:28] <histo> What kind of laptop is this?
[10:28] <Saroset> Wait, something about esc for boot menu.
[10:28] <Saroset> HP.
[10:28] <histo> Okay hit esc then right when that comes up and select cdrom
[10:29] <histo> The problem with a lot of these hps is that they put their stupid splash image covering the boot process. But you can usually disable the splash image int he bios settings somewhere.
[10:29] <Saroset> FFS, it's doing the same thing.
[10:29] <Saroset> I selected CD/DVD and it sounded like it started.
[10:29] <Saroset> CD spun.
[10:30] <histo> Did it say press any key to boto from cd?
[10:30] <Saroset> Nope.
[10:30] <Saroset> Boot Menu:
[10:30] <Saroset> 1.  ATAPI CD/DVD ROM Drive
[10:30] <histo> Do you have any other cds that are bootable? Like windows or a restore cd for the laptop? Just to make sure.
[10:31] <Saroset> Hm, one minute while I look around.
[10:31] <histo> That the kubuntu cd isn't bad.
[10:32] <Saroset> Found Vista (T_T)
[10:32] <histo> Put that in and see if it will boot to that.
[10:32] <histo> Just to make sure we aren't dealing with a bad cd
[10:33] <Saroset> Yup, it loaded.
[10:33] <Saroset> I'm... Going to crawl under a rock?
[10:33] <histo> No not a big deal happens to the best of us.
[10:33] <histo> I'm not sure if the vista cd has a recovery mode or not.
[10:34] <Saroset> Wait... Was I just supposed to burn the ISO straight to the CD?
[10:34] <histo> If it does you can try running fixmbr to fix the master boot record. But it sounds like the kubuntu cd you have is bad.
[10:34] <histo> Yeah but there should be files on the cd not just one iso file.
[10:34] <Saroset> Oh?
[10:34] <histo> You need to use a program to burn the iso to the cd. You can't just use windows drag and burn
[10:35] <Saroset> That would explain a bit.
[10:35] <histo> iso files are an image of the finallized cd.
[10:35] <histo> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[10:35] <histo> Do you still have a working machine with a cd burner?
[10:36] <Saroset> Yes.
[10:36] <Saroset> Thank you very much btw.
[10:37] <histo> okay well just copy the iso off of the cd you have currently to that machine. Then follow the directions for the burning iso to cd. Basically download infra Recorder which is free and use that. If this is a windows machine I assume.
[10:37] <Saroset> Yup, XP.
[10:37] <histo> That link i posted has a download link for infra recorder.
[10:37] <Saroset> Already installing.
[10:39] <Saroset> Much love for you.
[10:39] <histo> np
[10:39] <histo> can't sleep so this is how I waste some time.
[10:40] <Saroset> Actually, that's how this started
[10:40] <Saroset> >.>
[10:42] <histo> pretty much how I started with linux to. And where I gain most of my computer knowledge.
[10:44] <Saroset> I'm just flat too stressed to sleep and got sick of Vista getting slower every week.
[10:44] <Saroset> I had Kubuntu for a while on both my laptop and desktop.
[10:44] <Saroset> Desktop is funky as is and couldn't make it work.
[10:44] <Saroset> Laptop was wonderful though.
[10:45] <histo> Couldn't get kubuntu to work on the desktop?
[10:45] <Saroset> Dude, this thing is weird even with Windows running.
[10:45] <Saroset> The microphone randomly stops working.
[10:46] <Saroset> Kubuntu also kept having issues with my GeForce 6800
[10:47] <histo> Was this an older version of kubuntu that you tried?
[10:47] <Saroset> WOO! New CD works! <3.
[10:48] <Saroset> Yah, probably more than a year ago.
[10:49] <Saroset> I'm probably one of the five people in the world who enjoys the games made for Linux.
[10:49] <Saroset> Most of 'em aren't complex, but they are very inventive due to their constrictions.
[10:49]  * persia suspects the number is *much* greater than five, especially because there are more than that many people just on the games packaging team
[10:50]  * Saroset scuttles under rock.
[10:50] <Saroset> O.O Whoa! My wireless network card looks like it might work...
[10:50] <Saroset> I had trouble with that last time.
[10:50] <histo> Was last time with an older version of ubuntu?
[10:51] <Saroset> Yes. I don't remember which version.
[10:52] <histo> Yeah the development cycle is fast in linux and new stuff gets supported better with each version.
[10:56] <Saroset> Thanks again. Like, cant tell you how much I appreciate this.
[10:56] <histo> no problem.  Since your up and going i'm going to venture back in to #ubuntu
[10:56]  * Saroset is EBKAC
[10:56] <Saroset> kk =] Thanks!
[10:56] <histo> Saroset: remember there is also #kubuntu