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mdkenewz2000: every change should go through the bzr branch so I will fix it there, but best thing is to file bugs so they don't get lost11:00
qensehello13:35
ryanakcanewz2000: could you take a look at bug 297712 please?18:30
ubot3Malone bug 297712 in kubuntu-website "Download web page does not have links to jigdo downloads" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/29771218:30
jarlenqense: you around?19:44
qenseyes19:44
jarlenhow is ubuntu wanted going?19:45
qenseI'm almost finished with the admin queue19:45
jarlenthe entire admin part?19:45
qenseno, just the editing19:45
qenseno removal19:45
qensejust status changing and editng19:45
jarlenok, I'm trying to convince my pal that it's a project worth helping out on19:46
jarlenhe needs some programming to spend his time on :P19:46
qensewell, there is still no searching19:46
qenseif someone else would want to do the skill pages, that would be fine too. Then I could have a look at the theme from madrh19:47
jarlenso, it's like a search function, and the profiles you still need done?19:48
qensewell, next to the skill overview pages of tasks(not profiles, the offered part won't be there yet) yes19:48
qensealthough everything can still use a lot of polishing and isn't that advanced19:49
qensebut with these two things we could start testing to see what actual real world users think of it19:49
jarlenso more like the wanted "posters" themselves?19:49
qensecurrently it's indeed jsut the help needed part19:50
jarlenany idea how it's going with mads' design?19:51
jarlenI remember he contacted me, and I gave him a few pointers, never heard how it worked out though19:52
qensewell, hugh brant also gave some suggestions. I asked him if he could use them, but he didn't really seem to get it, maybe I should have epxlained better what I wanted.19:52
qenseI think I'll have a look at the work he already did and the changes proposed by Hugh Brant and merge them together in the final drupal theme.19:53
qensebtw, you did know that the working branch is at lp:~qense/ubuntu-wanted/qevel ?19:53
qenseonly when a feature is done I upload it to the main one19:54
jarlenno, I don't really look that much into it, just looked a bit that the stuff mads sent over19:54
qenseDid he also send the .zip archive to you?19:54
jarlenis it normal that drupal designs is just randomly scathered all over the html and the design files, instead of being kept in one place?19:55
jarlenit really seemed like a mess19:55
jarlenwell, he hooked me up with some links to some of the stuff being worked at, at that time19:55
jarlenbut it's been a while, didn't really follow up on it19:55
qenseIt's indeed a mess, although the brainstorm theme isn't that clean either.19:55
jarlencould be it's just a drupal mess19:56
jarlenim glad I don't have to work that much with it :P19:56
qenseEverything also needs some polishing. Especially the interface can be a mess. When you create a new task, all skills are listed under each other. There are just three skills in the testing version, but what if more will be used?19:57
qenseThere is also no interface to manage the skills.19:58
jarlenI've made an admin interface for a project at work, I added a "new" button, to some of the drop down menus19:58
jarlenthat "new" selection, would the call a javascript, where you could put in the new options'19:58
jarlen... but that could prove real messy in the long run for a page being used by a lot of different peopple19:59
jarlen-p19:59
qenseI don't think it would be a good idea to let everyone add skills. The approval of tasks is manually done, but everyone can add.19:59
qenseIt would be really helpful if someone else would also code a bit. That way you'd have someone to discuss things with and who can tell you if he/she thinks that certain things can be done better or are just wrong.19:59
qenseIt would also force me to explain my thoughts clearly. ;)20:00
qenseSo if your friend does want to help, he would be very welcome.20:01
jarlenthought so :-920:02
jarlenI might be up for some sparring if needed, but I dunno about the coding itself20:03
jarlenI have a lot of projects on my own already that I can't even get myself started on :P20:03
qensenicolas wrote a mvc-like module20:03
qenseit's based a lot on brainstorm things20:03
qenseDrupal has got some nice hooks, forms are very easy to create, but overall I find at least drupal 5 not that consistent20:04
jarlennever looked much at drupal20:04
jarlenbut really seemed like a mess, from the short look I took for Mads20:05
qensethe brainstorm theme is the main cause for that mess20:05
jarlenso it's the website team's fault?20:05
jarlenthat's not really reassuring :P20:05
qenseI don't know a lot about drupal 6 or 7, but since drupal 5 is the only approved version by canonical we have to use it20:05
qenseI'm not sure who wrote the theme, but there is only one developer for brainstorm20:06
jarlencan't you get a clean version, without their mess?20:06
qenseI'm not sure20:06
jarlenit's easier to make a mess if you got noone stopping you20:06
qensethe problem is that I want to spend time on giving the website more or at least some features rather than cleaning up the code of a theme that is working20:07
qensealthough you do get some weird glitches sometimes20:07
qenseIf someone who isn't afraid of PHP and Drupal and knows how to theme would do that, I'd be very happy.20:10
jarlenheh, don't think I can help you with that, designers seems hard to come by :)20:10
qensethis is the work mads did: https://dl-web.getdropbox.com/get/Photos/ubuntu-wanted-theme.png?w=272a734720:12
jarlenan 404 error? that's not what I told him to :P20:12
qensedo you get a 404?20:12
jarlenyeh20:13
qenseprobably a disguised 40320:13
jarlenbugged server?20:14
qenseno20:15
qensein a sec20:15
qensehttp://www.getdropbox.com/gallery/312625/1/Ubuntu%20Wanted?h=a73d4720:15
qensethis should do the trick20:15
jarlenwell, that's pretty much what he showed me he wanted to do, I guess :)20:17
qenseanother thing that needs to be done! a menu block20:19
qenseCurrently the biggest problem is editing the skills linking table20:25
qenseI'm not sure how to check if the entries already exist or should be created, especially how to do that with as less queries as possible.20:25
qenseI think that I already query a bit too much sometimes.20:26
qensewell, I'm off20:48
qensebye!20:48
jarlenIm trying to create an OpenSSH-key using the guide here: https://help.launchpad.net/YourAccount/CreatingAnSSHKeyPair but I only get to 0 byte files21:19
jarlenanyone who experienced something like that?21:20
jarlenor got a solution?21:26
jarlenall im doing is the "ssh-keygen -t rsa" command, and then fill out as requested21:27

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