[00:00] <Grant931> grant@monster:~$ sudo chown grant /home/grant/docs
[00:00] <Grant931> chown: changing ownership of `/home/grant/docs': Operation not permitted
[00:00] <kdogg> Grant931 use sudo?
[00:00] <Grant931> I did
[00:00] <kdogg> use a /
[00:00] <Grant931> sudo su didn't even work for it
[00:00] <ari_stress> Grant931: it might be a windows partition
[00:00] <kdogg> at the end
[00:01] <Grant931> still didn't work
[00:01] <Frogging101> When I upgraded to Ubuntu 8.10, sound stopped working. It worked before the update. The system detects my sound card, and the devices are all set to ALSA.
[00:01] <Grant931> it's a fat32 partition
[00:01] <kdogg> oh
[00:01] <ari_stress> Grant931: fat32 doesn't support that
[00:01] <Guest96693> Grant931 can't own/mod non-*nix filesystems
[00:01] <Grant931> so then why can't I modify it?
[00:01] <kdogg> is ntfs-configureation tool still around?
[00:01] <kdogg> err
[00:01] <kdogg> lol
[00:02] <Grant931> kdogg: that won't help, it's not ntfs
[00:02] <kdogg> yea
[00:02] <Guest96693> Grant931 can't own/mod non-*nix filesystems   there is no permissions/ownership bits.
[00:02] <ari_stress> Grant931: the trick is to mount it under another directory, and we chown that top directory :)
[00:02] <Grant931> ...I own /home/grant...
[00:02] <ari_stress> Grant931: then you should be able to write in the fat32
[00:02] <Grant931> well, I can't
[00:02] <n8tuser> Frogging101-> try to enable the diff settings when your run alsamixer
[00:03] <ari_stress> Grant931: what's the current owner of the fat32?
[00:03] <Grant931> ...
[00:03] <LoveGuru> howto upgrade kernel to gresec ?
[00:03] <pyrohotdog> Arrgghh if I could just get this CD burning to work this laptop would be complete!
[00:03] <Guest96693> Grant931 man moune has all the details.   i'll give you the short form.    use psyudo ownership/permissions on the entire fs with mount options.    sudo mount -o remount,umask=000 /mount/point
[00:03] <ari_stress> Grant931: how did you mount the fat32?
[00:03] <ari_stress> Guest96693: is correct
[00:03] <Grant931> fstab
[00:04] <methods> how do you tell ubuntu to regenerate hte xorg.conf ?
[00:04] <methods> using the new propreitary nvidia driver i laoded?
[00:04] <ari_stress> methods: sudo dpkg reconfigure gdm
[00:04] <n8tuser> CorpseFeeder-> sudo  ddcprobe  and see if it detects it, if you dont have ddcprobe  install  xprobe
[00:04] <methods> will that take into account that i want to use the driver i selected using restricted hardware ?
[00:05] <Guest96693> Grant931 can't own/mod non-*nix filesystems,   man mount     man fstab     use umask= fmask= dmask=  options.
[00:05] <ari_stress> methods: i've no ideas, usually restricted driver will have it's own setup
[00:05] <n8tuser> methods-> dont know if  X -configure :0   will, try it
[00:05] <CorpseFeeder> ari_stress: how do I boot into recovery? my card is an ATI Radeon RV250 [Mobility FireGL 9000] in a laptop.
[00:06] <wos> can anyone tell me how to set up ubuntu so that you can open a terminal in the folder you're looking at?
[00:06] <ari_stress> CorpseFeeder: when booting, when the the grub menu shows, quickly press ESC, it will bring up the grub option
[00:07] <Guest96693> n8tuser   i have tested X -configure    it breaks my working xorg.conf    ;/    dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg   might be a better option.
[00:07] <n8tuser> Guest96693-> okay,
[00:07] <wos> can anyone tell me how to set up ubuntu so that you can open a terminal in the folder you're looking at?
[00:07] <CorpseFeeder> ari_stress: ok, then what?
[00:08] <ari_stress> CorpseFeeder: there's a recovery menu, choose that
[00:08] <Dr_willis> wos,  i installed that package i mentioned earlier.. and  i go to any folder with gnome file manager.. and it has that menu optiuon on the right click menu
[00:08] <chrisdown> hey, anyone got any idea what to do if when i check the disk for errors it says: I/O error reading from boot cd?
[00:08] <ari_stress> CorpseFeeder: it will then offer you to reconfigure the display
[00:08] <yaptop> what is the lspci command
[00:08] <ari_stress> wos: you need to restart gnome
[00:08] <wos> Dr_willis: i installed that package and it doesnt work
[00:09] <KoFish> How do i change what XLookupString gives 1 bytes: returns using xmodmap?
[00:09] <Dr_willis> wos,  it works fine here
[00:09] <CorpseFeeder> ari_stress: ok.. you have to tell me everything now, cos I will have to reboot and leave this chat to do all this.... ;)
[00:09] <wos> how do you restart gnome ari_stress
[00:09] <Dr_willis> wos,  perhaps log out?
[00:09] <n8tuser> when one presses  alt+sysReq   do you get a save screen shot?
[00:09] <ari_stress> wos: http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2007/05/13/nautilus-open-terminal-terminal-quick-launch/
[00:09] <ari_stress> wos: the hard way is to: ctrl-backspace :)
[00:10] <Guest96693> !doesntwork
[00:10] <Mal3ko> guys..i can't see text at in wine interface..also in programs that it launches
[00:10] <ari_stress> wos: the safe way is to reboot
[00:10] <wos> ari thanks
[00:10] <Gullstad> I'm having problem with videomultimedia on ubuntu. The sound and video is unsynced, and it's really slow playing videos, or watch steams on internett. My computer ain't using all the ram or cpu power when this is happening. The graficcard was supported by ubuntu, and is installed.
[00:10] <ari_stress> n8tuser: that is so DOS :)
[00:11] <n8tuser> ari_stress-> and what is wrong with DOS?
[00:11] <Guest65215> a
[00:11] <mercutio22> gparted is failing to startup with the error message: can't have partition outside the disk!
[00:11] <ari_stress> n8tuser: nothing, i love DOS, many good games
[00:11] <Guest65215> gdmsetup fails
[00:11] <Guest65215> someone help me
[00:11] <n8tuser> ari_stress-> you don know why i even ask what am trying to find out.
[00:11] <Guest96693> n8tuser only when i add B to the key combo
[00:11] <DarkKnight> wen i install flexbuilder... it says java virtual machine not found...how do i install it
[00:12] <Guest65215> gdmsetup fails, someone help me
[00:12] <DarkKnight> wen i install flexbuilder... it says java virtual machine not found...how do i install it
[00:12] <poboy975> hi im havng dhcpd wont start
[00:12] <AutoMatriX> hello folks, how can I save my prefd event sounds in 8.10 ?
[00:12] <CorpseFeeder> I am going to try and screw up my display configuration now. brb... (maybe)
[00:12] <DarkKnight> wen i install flexbuilder... it says java virtual machine not found...how do i install it
[00:12] <pyrohotdog> Blank CDs show up on the desktop, but Rhythmbox still tells me to insert a blank when I try to burn.
[00:13] <Lucifer_> AutoMatrix press save
[00:13] <DarkKnight> bazhang??
[00:13] <kri> do you need f10, f11, f12, f13 to soemthing specific in ubuntu?
[00:13] <n8tuser> Guest96693-> thanks, i wanted to find out what others mapping on that key, its supposed to be for sysrq and then to trigger a shutdown
[00:13] <AutoMatriX> Lucifer_, where is that 'save' button ?
[00:13] <kri> f9, f10, f11, f12 *
[00:13] <Guest65215> help
[00:13] <Guest65215> can anyone help
[00:13] <Guest65215> gdmsetup fails, someone help me
[00:13] <DarkKnight> bazhang??
[00:13] <DarkKnight> wen i install flexbuilder... it says java virtual machine not found...how do i install it
[00:13] <Dr_willis> !ask | Guest65215
[00:14] <Dr_willis> note the 'IF' :)
[00:14] <Lucifer_> next to don't save automatrix
[00:14] <AutoMatriX> Lucifer_, those must be burning somewhere in hell, I suppose ?
[00:14] <n8tuser> !java | DarkKnight
[00:15] <ari_stress> AutoMatriX: very funny :)
[00:15] <Lucifer_> AutoMatrix i understand that you can't find it, im i rght ?
[00:15] <n8tuser> Guest65215-> what happens when you run sudo gdmsetup ?
[00:15] <xd_> wiii
[00:15] <AutoMatriX> Lucifer_, correct, dear
[00:16] <Peter_G> I am completely new to Ubuntu, and have a weird question.  I just installed 8.1 on a laptop.  I have a small game program, about 3M in size.  It is a single file executable, so no installation or packages or anything (sort of like an old DOS program).  But it won't work on Ubuntu.  A friend of mine had the game, and he copied it to his home directory, and it ran.  When I do that, it still won't run.  Is there something in the setting to enable runni
[00:16] <Peter_G> ed to set permissions on it, or something else?
[00:16] <Grant931> hello again
[00:16] <Grant931> thanks for the help before
[00:16] <ari_stress> Peter_G: if it's a dos game, you need to install 'dosemu'
[00:16] <Peter_G> Oh, no, it's not a DOS game.
[00:16] <ari_stress> Peter_G: sudo apt-get install dosemu
[00:16] <nick_> Hi I'm new to ubuntu and linux, where can I configure my devices like in windows?
[00:16] <pyrohotdog> Peter_G: Enter terminal, and chmod +x it.
[00:17] <mneptok> Peter_G: what is the game?
[00:17] <Peter_G> Really quick, it's from a game engine.  Basically, a game without any data, and the user adds the sprites and such.  It's not DOS.
[00:17] <Peter_G> It's called GE Rally.  It was made with the Game Editor game engine.
[00:17] <Grant931> I was reading man mount and I was wondering, is it safe to use just the option "rw" in fstab?
[00:17] <ari_stress> Peter_G: what is the filename?
[00:17] <Guest65215> My gdmsetup wont load completely.It will show for a sec then go off ,wen i load from aterminal it gives some glib errorss
[00:17] <cngzwing> i use cedega play the WOW game, some time my MS go another places the cedega will fail. my laptop is DELL M1330 , video card is Geforce 8400G MS .
[00:17] <AutoMatriX> nick_, which desktop are you running ?
[00:17] <Peter_G> GERally  That's all, no extention.
[00:18] <Guest75461> hello every1
[00:18] <Berri> helloz
[00:18] <ari_stress> Peter_G: do this to check the file type: file GERally
[00:18] <Tetracomm> Hello.
[00:18] <nick_> 8.10
[00:18] <Grant931> hmm
[00:18] <ari_stress> brb
[00:18] <vladi> hello! I neen to set my xchat to ubuntu-it, I'm italian. what can I do?
[00:18] <Guest75461> I need some help please...
[00:18] <Peter_G> Would anyone mind if I got my laptop really quick and fired it up?
[00:18] <vladi> need*
[00:19] <n8tuser> people with Guest*** as nick, can you kindly change to a better nick so tab-autocomplete works better, its hard to type
[00:19] <Guest75461> gotta problem with my numeric pad after installing nvidia drivers from nvidia website
[00:19] <LF|Irssi> oh man trackerd is filling up my HDD! wth
[00:19] <Guest75461> just doesnt work
[00:19] <AutoMatriX> nick that's the # of the distribution, but Id'l like to know if you run kde, gnome or something else ?
[00:19] <Guest75461> any1 has any idea ?
[00:19] <Tetracomm> I got mtpfs to mount my Creative Zen mp3 player, but I have to type in the root password to access the files on it, why?
[00:19] <Grant931> I wish someone would update those damn ext3 drivers for Windows
[00:19] <Grant931> stuck using FAT32 :/
[00:19] <nick_> its gnome i think
[00:19] <Lucifer_> Geust75461: I will help you no problem
[00:19] <Neurolysis> Question - if i install firmware that i am not sure is for my CD-ROM drive (It is either the right one or a slightly different version), and the drive doesn't like it, can i simply put the right firmware back on top of it afterwards without issue?
[00:19] <Dr_willis> Grant931 i tried them out for some time.. and had to many issues also..
[00:20] <Guest75461> and it's not the option on accesibility...tried that already...
[00:20] <Grant931> I would do NTFS, but it's a bit odd
[00:20] <Grant931> not many Open FileSystems out there
[00:20] <Guest75461> and I have no way to edit xorg it disables the nvidia driver...
[00:20] <Grant931> well, good ones anyways
[00:20] <Guest65215> My gdmsetup wont load completely.It will show for a sec then go off ,wen i load from a terminal it gives some glib errors then ends in segmentation error
[00:20] <n8tuser> people with Guest*** as nick, can you kindly change to a better nick so tab-autocomplete works better, its hard to type
[00:21] <WelshDragon> So many guests =\
[00:21] <Daeshim> lol
[00:21] <Lucifer_> Geust75461: don't worry i will help you
[00:21] <Grant931> no kidding
[00:21] <CorpseFeeder> ari_stress..... oh have they quit?
[00:21] <AutoMatriX> nick_,  that's the # of the distribution, but Id'l like to know if you run kde, gnome or something else ?
[00:21] <JAYGRIOT> allright...
[00:21] <l3d> ok
[00:21] <JAYGRIOT> so ...about the keyboard...
[00:21] <JAYGRIOT> any1?
[00:21] <yeryry> ok.. so I upgraded to intrepid.. nvidia was working.. tried to get madwifi working, now nvidia is broken..
[00:22] <fcuk> !sense | Dr_willis
[00:22] <vladi> sorry. Is there someone can help me to set my xchat to ubuntu-it? I'm italian...
[00:22] <Berri> Don't ask me. :P I'm a newbie whom comes here to learn.
[00:22] <DarkKnight> j
[00:22] <Lucifer_> Vladi just delete it
[00:22] <CorpseFeeder> Well that didn't work - I am still getting a message that my graphics card is not detected despite it seeming to run normally after bootup.... What now?
[00:23] <Grant931> I refuse to use murder FS
[00:23] <Tetracomm> When a USB device is plugged in, what is executed? Is it a script? I need to find it. Help?
[00:23] <n8tuser> CorpseFeeder-> sudo  ddcprobe  and see if it detects it, if you dont have ddcprobe  install  xprobe
[00:23] <vladi> Lucifer: I'had remove and re-install xchat, but it's the same...
[00:23] <samr7> anybody use Bluetooth on Intrepid?
[00:23] <Pedrolito> How can I edit the places menu?
[00:24] <speedcore> what is the command to empty recycle bin?
[00:24] <Grant931> can't resize XFS, that's a no-go
[00:24] <speedcore> what is the recycle bin location?
[00:24] <Grant931> NTFS looks promising, but is laden with patents
[00:24] <ari_stress> Pedrolito: open nautilus and add/remove the folder you don't want from the left panel
[00:25] <Peter_G> Okay, I have the information on the game file.  It's in my home directory.  I typed file GERally, and here's what it says:  "GERally: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.2.5, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), stripped"
[00:25] <Pedrolito> ari_stress, I know that for bookmarks, but how can I remove say "search for files"?
[00:25] <Lucifer_> vladi what is wrong whit it, it wont connect?
[00:26] <ari_stress> Peter_G: then do this: chmod 755 GERally, and then ./GERally
[00:26] <ari_stress> Pedrolito: that's a good question! i dont know yet :)
[00:26] <cow_2001> what's a transparent proxy and how do i fix it with regard to BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 error?
[00:26] <CorpseFeeder> n8tuser: I installed xprobe, it responds ddcprobe: command not found.
[00:27] <CorpseFeeder> ari_stress: welcome back.. that recovery mode thing did nothing...
[00:27] <vladi> lucifer: the only channel that I can see about Ubuntu, is this channel.. sorry, my english is maybe not good...
[00:27] <iShock> Hey guys. I'm trying to set up tspc, but it's not going well. Anyone care to help me set it up?
[00:27] <zabbadapp> ...uhm, WTF happened to gnome-look.org ?! ... I can't download a theme from a domain-squatter!
[00:27] <ari_stress> CorpseFeeder: oh sorry :( hmm...
[00:27] <Peter_G> It says, "./GERally: error while loading shared libraries:  libstdc++.so.5:  cannot open shared object file:  No such file or directory"  Does this mean I'm missing libstdc++, and if I install it, it should work?
[00:28] <iShock> Hey guys. I'm trying to set up tspc, but it's not going well. Anyone care to help me set it up? Highlight me if so D:
[00:28] <ari_stress> Peter_G: then we need to install that library
[00:28] <andrew__> just installed ubunut 8.10 no major problems to speak of
[00:28] <ompaul> zabbadapp, nothing
[00:28] <Lucifer_> vladi type "/list "
[00:28] <n8tuser> CorpseFeeder-> sorry it is xresprobe   not xprobe, man my memory is so poor
[00:28] <ari_stress> Peter_G: sudo apt-cache search libstdc, look for the package name we need, and sudo apt-get install packagename
[00:28] <thompa> i have installed both ubuntu and kubuntu. My mouse gesture in ubuntu is the kde one and also it complains now of unfiinished language pack install
[00:29] <vladi> lucifer: no files or directories
[00:29] <d1ng0> I am bit of a complete newbie when it comes to ubuntu (well I ran it years ago on a secondary computer and that was pulled of with a hitch) but I wanted to try and run it on the acer aspire 1355LC notebook I have no, but for some reason that I don't see, I get dumped into a command shell only with several errors about firmware.
[00:29] <ari_stress> andrew__: yeah! i love 8.10, very nice
[00:29] <anjelcarlosomar1> hay alguie que able castellano
[00:29] <andrew__> is it possibale to run itunes?
[00:29] <iShock> Hey guys. I'm trying to set up tspc, but it's not going well. Anyone care to help me set it up? Highlight me if so D: Running II
[00:29] <CorpseFeeder> isn't there supposed to be some issue/work around with Ubuntu 8.10 and ATI FireGl cards? Anyone knwo where to find the info?
[00:29] <Peter_G> So, like they say on Mythbusters, "Well, THERE'S your problem!"  And, presumably, once I install it, run ./GERally again, and see if there are other libraries missing and install those, right?
[00:29] <andrew__> broowed freind spc to download image
[00:29] <CorpseFeeder> n8tuser: Ok.. I will try that
[00:29] <zabbadapp> ompaul: i'm getting redirected to http://www2.searchresultsdirect.com/parking.php4?domain=gnome-look.org&registrar=238091&eq=6f9ee28c3b53cb947e87f56c90d280d3
[00:29] <Lucifer_> vladi look on ubuntuserver tab left on your screen
[00:29] <ompaul> zabbadapp, I ain't
[00:29] <andrew__> is much faste rthen xp ever could be
[00:29] <Anacranom> vladi, no, type in here.. then check parent server
[00:30] <ari_stress> andrew__: you know this? http://www.arinet.org/intrepid-cylinder2.jpeg :)
[00:30] <Grant931> hmm
[00:30] <Grant931> what IS journaling in filesystems? and how does it help me?
[00:30] <ari_stress> Peter_G: yes
[00:30] <andrew__> no
[00:30] <wwpiexec> how to change this munge function to preserve spaces and not chnge them to underscores echo "$@" | sed s,:,\ -,g | tr /\* __+ | tr -d \'\"\?\[:cntrl:\]
[00:30] <Neurolysis> To reiterate my earlier question if I may: Question - if i install firmware that i am not sure is for my CD-ROM drive (It is either the right one or a slightly different version), and the drive doesn't like it, can i simply put the right firmware back on top of it afterwards without issue?
[00:30] <anjelcarlosomar1> dime si a entado en el chat en castellano que able
[00:30] <thompa> is there some way to have kubuntu and ubuntu working together
[00:30] <Grant931> !spanish
[00:30] <Peter_G> I cannot thank you enough.  If you were in the Chicago area, I'd buy you a beer.
[00:30] <poboy975linux> hello
[00:30] <vladi> lucifer: in the tab there is only this channel.. do you want that I type here /list?
[00:30] <Flare183> thompa:
[00:31] <Flare183> opps
[00:31] <Flare183> oops*
[00:31] <Flare183> thompa: Yes
[00:31] <Grant931> !spanish | anjelcarlosomar1
[00:31] <FloodBot2> Flare183: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:31] <ari_stress> Grant931: it means if you power off your computer, the filesystem won't corrupted (hopefuly)
[00:31] <poboy975linux> im haveing a problem with seting up dhcpd config file
[00:31] <iShock> Hey guys. I'm trying to set up tspc, but it's not going well. Anyone care to help me set it up? Highlight me if so D: Running Ibis
[00:31] <thompa> Flare183: I have a few problems
[00:31] <ari_stress> poboy975linux: what about it?
[00:31] <sweet_dreams> Can anyone tell me what PulseAudio is?
[00:31] <aross1> any cairo-dock users that could help with an odd icon problem?
[00:31] <poboy975linux> server wont start
[00:31] <andrew__> no idea on that website
[00:31] <Grant931> that explains why data is destroyed when USB drives aren't properly unmounted
[00:31] <rdw200169_> aross1: cairo-dock is awesome ;)
[00:31] <poboy975linux> doesnt give error
[00:31] <Flare183> FloodBot2: I know
[00:31] <zabbadapp> ompaul: Your DNS-server maybe still haven't updated, so you still get the correct ip, but mine has (i mean that there might be something fishy going on, but has not propagated to all name servers yet?)
[00:31] <Flare183> duh
[00:32] <thompa> Flare183: the cursor is kubuntus and 2 network managers
[00:32] <Flare183> thompa: wow
[00:32] <ari_stress> poboy975linux: to troubleshoot dhcp server, open another terminal and do: sudo tail -f /var/log/syslog, the error will shown there
[00:32] <iShock> Hey guys. I'm trying to set up tspc OR GW6C, but it's not going well. Anyone care to help me set it up? Highlight me if so D: Running Ibis
[00:32] <rdw200169_> aross1: yes, but cairo-dock is tricky when it comes to icons, you have to specify them directly, path-wise
[00:32] <djors> hi everybody
[00:32] <thompa> Flare183: they are little problems but annoying and common
[00:32] <aross1> rdw200169: i agree, but i can't get some of my appli launchers to keep the focus when the program runs.
[00:32] <Dominik1> what does the GNOME settings daemon do?
[00:32] <CorpseFeeder> n8tuser: ok ddcprobe worked, detected the graphics no problem.
[00:32] <Flare183> thompa: look at this factoid
[00:32] <Izinucs> !audio > Izinucs
[00:33] <rdw200169_> aross1: yes, this is a problem with the way cairo-dock tracks the applications running
[00:33] <iShock> Hey guys. I'm trying to set up tspc OR GW6C, but it's not going well. Anyone care to help me set it up? Highlight me if so D: Running Ibis
[00:33] <thompa> Flare183: the 2 network managers is know issue but now I have also complaint of language pack
[00:33] <poboy975linux> ok, can i paste the error msg here?
[00:33] <aross1> rdw200169: such as that i'll have my azureus launcher on the right, and then another one on the left (designating a running program)
[00:33] <n8tuser> CorpseFeeder-> does the settings it display  correct?
[00:33] <Dr_willis> !pastebin | poboy975linux
[00:33] <samr7> who uses bluetooth on Intrepid?
[00:33] <ari_stress> poboy975linux: better use pastebin
[00:33] <Commie_Cary> !ot Commie_Cary
[00:33] <aross1> rdw200169: instead of just having the yellow highlight under the launcher
[00:33] <Commie_Cary> !ot | Commie_Cary
[00:33] <anjelcarlosomar1> en que sala algui que able español
[00:33] <rdw200169_> aross1: for example, to get it to focus thunderbird, i have to put in the cairo-dock launcher 'thunderbird-bin' but i actually run it with
[00:33] <thompa> Flare183: what is a factoid?
[00:33] <Flare183> !startup | thompa
[00:33] <Dominik1> also what is the GNOME Keyring Daemon Wrapper and is it necessary?
[00:33] <rdw200169_> aross1: thunderbird %U
[00:33] <Grant931> !spanish | anjelcarlosomar1
[00:33] <Flare183> !es | anjelcarlosomar1
[00:34] <poboy975linux> ok here goes http://paste.ubuntu.com/72134/
[00:34] <djors> does anybody knows how to setup a avermedia tv card with ubuntu ?
[00:34] <Flare183> Dominik1: Yes
[00:34] <aross1> rdw200169: you mean thunderbird-bin as the command or class?
[00:34] <rdw200169_> aross1: b/c a lot of times the name of the application running doesn't match this executable
[00:34] <thompa> Flare183: OK tanks
[00:34] <ari_stress> ok poboy975linux let me see
[00:34] <Grant931> !spanish > anjelcarlosomar1
[00:34] <rdw200169_> aross1: simply, when you right click on a cairo-dock launcher, you get 'modify launcher' or something like that
[00:34] <CorpseFeeder> n8tuser: yes. it says "oem: ATI MOBILITY RADEON 9000" which is close enough.
[00:34] <Flare183> thompa: np
[00:34] <Dominik1> Flare183: yes to what?
[00:35] <rdw200169_> aross1: this is where i put thunderbird-bin, under command to run, or something like that
[00:35] <ari_stress> poboy975linux: that's not a dhcpd error, are you setting up a dhcp server or as a client?
[00:35] <rdw200169_> aross1: then, when thunderbird is running, i don't have a separate icon
[00:35] <outlaw6860> Hey, I am having problems setting up wireless, I had this card working before I formatted my computer and upgraded to 8.10. the wireless utility did now work before either. I tried going into the console and typed "sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid<myessid> key <my128bitkey>". It seemed to associate with the access point as I was able to get signal strength and link quality to show.
[00:35] <saruji> hey guys got a question: how do I install winff in ubuntu 8.10?
[00:35] <iShock> Hey guys. I'm trying to set up tspc OR GW6C, but it's not going well. Anyone care to help me set it up? Highlight me if so D: Running Ibis
[00:35] <rdw200169_> aross1: just the highlight under the launcher
[00:35] <Dominik1> what does Account information resolver do, is it necessary?
[00:35] <n8tuser> CorpseFeeder-> how about the modes and the rest of the info? if they match, your driver seem to work okay then
[00:35] <aross1> rdw200169: ok, thanks. i've edited most of them by hand already, but i'll have to look into what name they run under
[00:35] <Flare183> Dominik1: your question
[00:35] <poboy975linux> im trying to setup dhcp as server, so i can do a pxe install from this machine to another
[00:35] <Grant931> I wish someone would write a filesystem that worked with both Linux and Windows that has journaling besides MurderFS
[00:35] <rdw200169_> aross1: the problem is, thunderbird won't launch from thunderbird-bin
[00:35] <iShock> Hey guys. I'm trying to set up tspc OR GW6C, but it's not going well. Anyone care to help me set it up? Highlight me if so D: Running Ibis
[00:36] <rdw200169_> aross1: just check using the ps command, like ps -AF, it will tell you the t
[00:36] <aross1> rdw200169: so you have thunderbird-bin as the command and then, say, thunderbird for the class?
[00:36] <rdw200169_> aross1: 'true' name an application is running under
[00:36] <aross1> rdw200169: ok, will do
[00:36] <iShock> Hey guys. I'm trying to set up tspc OR GW6C, but it's not going well. Anyone care to help me set it up? Highlight me if so D: Running Ibis
[00:36] <CorpseFeeder> n8tuser: yes, they all seem to correspond with what I got in 8.04
[00:36] <rdw200169_> aross1: i'm not classing my applications
[00:36] <ari_stress> poboy975linux: the package name is dhcp3-server
[00:36] <aross1> rdw200169: is it not really necessary?
[00:36] <rdw200169_> aross1: i just keep the ones i use all the time, i.e. firefox, thunderbird, etc..., i.e. the ones that i never shut off
[00:36] <iShock> Hey guys. I'm trying to set up tspc OR GW6C, but it's not going well. Anyone care to help me set it up? Highlight me if so D: Running Ibis?????????????????????
[00:37] <rdw200169_> aross1: in the main toolbar
[00:37] <n8tuser> CorpseFeeder-> what was the issue again in yours?
[00:37] <Dominik1> will cpu frequency monitor still work if I deactivate CPU frequency manager?
[00:37] <rdw200169_> aross1: i just right click on the cairo-dock bar and do "+add manual launcher"
[00:37] <poboy975linux> i already installed the dhcp3-server package
[00:37] <aross1> rdw200169: i was under the impression that it would it could keep applis ofthe same class in the same icon
[00:37] <aross1> rdw200169: although it doesn't really work that way
[00:37] <rdw200169_> aross1: it works well for me, the applications i use *all* the time are always there
[00:38] <rdw200169_> aross1: yeah, it's buggy in that respect
[00:38] <ari_stress> poboy975linux: then you need to setup /etc/dhcp/dhcpd.conf, in your pastebin, i don't see any error with dhcp server
[00:38] <rdw200169_> aross1: i like it because it doesn't, ever, crash, and looks a lot nicer than a panel dedicated to running applications
[00:38] <CorpseFeeder> n8tuser: every time I boot the laptop, it says "blah blah blah.. running in low graphics mode.. could not detect your graphics card.. yada yada yada... you need to reconfigure this manually".. then when it finishes booting up, everything looks fine.
[00:38] <guestguestnew> guys, is there a calendar application that is integreated with gnome that automatically notifies you of events you scheduled?
[00:38] <poboy975linux> ok, just a sec
[00:38] <rdw200169_> aross1: that, and it works in metacity, looks like garbage, but it works, so that if compiz crashes, i still have a little access
[00:39] <aross1> rdw200169: yea, it really makes the wife happy that it looks like a mac but without the pricetag
[00:39] <yeryry> CorpseFeeder: I just got that message, but it ended up in lowres..
[00:39] <aross1> rdw200169: but so far the stability has been comendable
[00:39] <ph8> hi all, can anyone tell me how to install codecs so amarok can play .wma files?
[00:39] <poboy975linux> ok here go http://paste.ubuntu.com/72138/
[00:39] <LoveGuru> is there anyhelp with " grsecurity " or any tutorial which one can help me out with install/configuration. thanks.
[00:39] <ari_stress> poboy975linux: this is nice to give you some ideas: http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu_pxe_install_server
[00:39] <aross1> rdw200169: ok, gotta run, thanks for the help!
[00:39] <iShock> Does my friend need to forward a port to install xchat?
[00:39] <n8tuser> CorpseFeeder-> i dont know how to correct that,
[00:39] <CorpseFeeder> yeryry: I get the message every time, but it always loads up gnome in high res like normal
[00:39] <rdw200169_> aross1: but i don't get rid of my gnome panel, i keep that on top, i just use the cairo-dock to keep track of running applications, because trying to keep then in the taksbar using alltray crashes when switching window managers
[00:40] <ari_stress> iShock: what do you mean?
[00:40] <rdw200169_> aross1: good luck!
[00:40] <outlaw6860> ishock: not to install it
[00:40] <aross1> rdw200169: thanks bud
[00:40] <sirjoebob> hey all. is there an easy way to make an iso into a bootable flash drive (NOT ubuntu iso)
[00:40] <iShock> outlaw6860, for me to vncviewer to help him I mean
[00:40] <Izinucs> Where is the login sound located? I'm getting two playing at the same time Hardy & Ibex.
[00:40] <iShock> Does my friend need to forward a port to let me vncviewer in to help him install xchat?
[00:40] <ari_stress> sirjoebob: i believe a CD iso cannot be "burn" into flashdisk
[00:40] <Izinucs> iShock: yes.. 5600-5700 I think
[00:41] <guestguestnew> guys, is there a calendar application that is integreated with gnome that automatically notifies you of events you scheduled?
[00:41] <Grant931> is it safe/secure to just use this line in fstab:
[00:41] <Grant931> Code:
[00:41] <Grant931> # docs
[00:41] <Grant931> /dev/sda5 /home/grant/docs vfat user,rw 0 1
[00:41] <FloodBot2> Grant931: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:41] <ari_stress> iShock: oh. yes
[00:41] <Grant931> or will it open my partition up to attacks?
[00:41] <sirjoebob> ari_stress, thanks. i was just wondering. i am trying specifically to get a bootable Hirens USB disk for a friend who has a toughbook with no optical drive
[00:41] <outlaw6860> ishock: just have him put his computer in dmz but not to leave it like that
[00:41] <ari_stress> Grant931: i think it's ok. who's going to attack your partition?
[00:41] <platius> ph8;  look at http://medibuntu.org
[00:41] <Flare183> ph8: I will hold on
[00:41] <iShock> Hey guys. I'm trying to set up tspc OR GW6C, but it's not going well. Anyone care to help me set it up? Highlight me if so D: Running Ibis?????????????????????
[00:41] <ph8> cheers platius
[00:42] <Grant931> ari_stress: people normally don't need a reason to do malicious activity
[00:42] <Izinucs> Where are sound theme's sounds located? the stock ubuntu one's
[00:42] <outlaw6860> why would a wireless card show up in iwconfig but not ifconfig?
[00:42] <rdw200169_> sirjoebob: shouldn't be a big deal, check this out http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[00:42] <ari_stress> outlaw6860: good question
[00:43] <Grant931> will this cause any vulnerabilties to open up, like someone deleting everything on my partition?
[00:43] <Izinucs> outlaw6860: one for wired one for wireless just in case you have two cards installed.. maybe..
[00:43] <ari_stress> Grant931: no, i don't think so, as long as you secure your samba and ssh
[00:43] <CorpseFeeder> I remember seeing something in the release notes about upgrading from 8.04 to 8.10 relating to an issue with ATI cards, but I can't seem to find it....
[00:44] <Grant931> I don't use samba or ssh
[00:44] <sirjoebob> rdw200169_,  I am trying to put a hirens boot cd on a usb drive. i dont think this will work for that purpose.
[00:44] <ari_stress> Grant931: then at least the physical security of your computer, you will be fine
[00:44] <rdw200169_> sirjoebob: it's simply, if you wanna do it the hard way, a matter of installing grub onto a usb drive, and partitioning accordingly,
[00:44] <ari_stress> rdw200169_: really?
[00:44] <rdw200169_> sirjoebob: anything is possible ;)
[00:45] <outlaw6860> ari_stress: yea but doesn't it use ifconfig to control if the card is up or down and to link an ip address to it?
[00:45] <Grant931> ok, thanks :)
[00:45] <outlaw6860> ari_stress: thats the way I seem to remember it, mabye i'm wrong
[00:45] <sirjoebob> rdw200169_,  i will have to mess with it later. i am about to head out of work. thanks for the help
[00:45] <d1ng0> coud anyone help me, I'm trying to get ubuntu to install on my old aspire 1355LC, but for some reason the installation ends and dumps me back to a command prompt...
[00:45] <rdw200169_> ari_stress: sirjoebob, the bios doesn't care, all it's looking for is a bootloader, this is special for CD's, but not for usb drives, if the motherboard supports booting via USB, it's expecting the same stuff it expects from a HDD
[00:45] <ari_stress> outlaw6860: in my notebook, ifconfig shows wlan0, dont know why it's different in yours
[00:46] <ari_stress> d1ng0: that's difficult, might be hardware probs. you need to google
[00:46] <guestguestnew> guys, is there a calendar application that is integreated with gnome that automatically notifies you of events you scheduled?
[00:46] <guestguestnew> guys, is there a calendar application that is integreated with gnome that automatically notifies you of events you scheduled? not evolution
[00:46] <outlaw6860> ari_stress: using iwconfig I can get the card to associate to the access point but I dont know if the card is up or not
[00:47] <rdw200169_> ari_stress: so it's simply a matter of using grub, or something like it, to direct the bios to the appropriate OS related stuff
[00:47] <Dominik1> is opera open soure?  does anybody know?
[00:47] <Dr_willis> Dominik1,  no its not. as far as ive seen
[00:47] <n8tuser> outlaw6860-> iwconfig does not associate it,  dhclient will
[00:47] <rdw200169_> ari_stress: it's the same rules that apply to a HDD
[00:47] <LF|Irssi> no it's not
[00:47] <ari_stress> outlaw6860: we can see the action in: sudo tail -f /var/log/syslog
[00:47] <rdw200169_> ari_stress: the trick is making sure your mobo supports usb booting
[00:47] <Dominik1> Dr_willis: :(
[00:47] <ari_stress> rdw200169_: nice! :)
[00:48] <outlaw6860> i'll take a look at those two things then
[00:48] <foolz> how do I find out what sound card my computer has from Ubuntu?
[00:48] <rdw200169_> ari_stress: but all is not lost, if you still want to boot via usb, you could use GRUB installed on a HDD to point to a USB drive post BIOS, but that's more difficult
[00:48] <LF|Irssi> rdw200169_: do you know when about "Usb booting" bios/motherboards started coming out? i have a 3 year old dell, but im not sure if it supports that or not.
 be thankfull its  free no $$, and not ad-supported any more. :)
[00:48] <Cav> I am trying to install Ubuntu 8.10 on another computer, I am at step 5 of 7 where it asks for user names, etc...the problem is my keyboard is non responsive.  If I quit the install and restart, I get the same thing each time.  Keyboard works as I swapped with my windows machine.  Been to the install help, and couldn't find anything regarding keyboard issues.  Any help?
[00:48] <LF|Irssi> Dell 2400 Demension
[00:48] <rdw200169_> LF|Irssi: well, i'm pretty sure Dells work, i saw one a couple years ago that supported boot via USB
[00:49] <LF|Irssi> cool
[00:49] <rdw200169_> LF|Irssi: you should check, it's the same place you specify boot order in the bios config
[00:49] <rdw200169_> LF|Irssi: if not, there might be a BIOS firmware for your laptop that enables it
[00:49] <LF|Irssi> ok thanks rdw200169_ ill look into that (its not a laptop) :)
[00:49] <rdw200169_> LF|Irssi: or you could do something much more difficult, this flashing the bios with another one... (don't do it;))
[00:49] <musikgoat> foolz: you can check with lspci | grep "audio"
[00:49] <JAM`> intrepid has broken my webcam :<
[00:49] <ari_stress> Cav: that is so strange!
[00:49] <BrickHaus> guestguestnew: check this out. Pretty simple.   http://lifehacker.com/software/google-calendar/download-of-the-day-google-calendar-notifier-170023.php
[00:49] <platius> foolz lshw sound
[00:50] <croddy> when i type on the numpad, my mouse cursor moves slightly. i remember this was happening to me for a long time before, but i forget what i did to disable it. i'm using gnome on 8.10. anyone know what's up?
[00:50] <n8tuser> JAM`-> into pieces?  hehe
[00:50] <platius> foolz lshw -C sound
[00:50] <croddy> (the mouse moves slightly, but no numbers come out, that is)
[00:50] <foolz> thanks guys
[00:50] <JAM`> n8thyoung, no ;D
[00:50] <rdw200169_> LF|Irssi: yeah, dell's have a surprisingly good history for being on the cutting edge with obscure things like that
[00:50] <rdw200169_> LF|Irssi: as do IBM's
[00:50] <Dominik1> Dr_willis: yea but I like the idea of being open, now I don't know if I wanna support it : (
[00:50] <iShock> Hey guys. I'm trying to set up tspc OR GW6C, but it's not going well. Anyone care to help me set it up? Highlight me if so D: Running Ibis?????????????????????
[00:50] <iShock> Hey guys. I'm trying to set up tspc OR GW6C, but it's not going well. Anyone care to help me set it up? Highlight me if so D: Running Ibis?????????????????????
[00:50] <LF|Irssi> ok good to know thanks :)
[00:50] <rdw200169_> LF|Irssi: but emachines, no, good thing they were killed :)
[00:50] <JAM`> but it used to work on Hardy (and everything I've tried before Hardy), but it doesn't work at all on Intrepid
[00:50] <n8tuser> iShock-> what is that tspc anyways?
[00:51] <Dr_willis> Dominik1,  then dont use it.. :) i keep opera installed as  a backup browser , most of the time.. it does have some neat features
[00:51] <rdw200169_> iShock: i have tspc working right now !
[00:51] <guestguestnew> BrickHaus: but thats an online calendar?
[00:51] <n8tuser> JAM`-> you still have the old hardy? see if the drivers from the old is same as in the new
[00:51] <iShock> rdw200169_ Help me set it up in PM? :D
[00:51] <rdw200169_> iShock: have you ever used ipv6 before???
[00:51] <rdw200169_> sure
[00:51] <iShock> rdw200169_ Yeah, I used freenet6/afraid.org on Windows
[00:51] <croddy> 1234 nevermind, i found it in prefs. but i wish i knew what i did that enabled this.
[00:51] <JAM`> n8thyoung, it doesn't work on the new fedora either
[00:51] <n8tuser> iShock-> stay here on the main channel so that others can share the knowhow
[00:52] <Cav> ari_stress so I take it that is a new one on the install part?
[00:52] <BrickHaus> guestguestnew: Yes. Integrated into a Firefox plugin. So what?
[00:52] <JAM`> there's been some 'improved webcam support' although it seems to have removed support for mine ;o
[00:52] <oakmac> I have an external sound card.  Sometimes it crashes and I have to restart it (it's a hardware problem I've had to years).  When this happens, how do I tell Ubuntu to "reload" this piece of hardware?  Right now I have to reboot my computer in order to get sound back.
[00:52] <Dominik1> Dr_willis: i have 480 megs of ram, I need something much lighter then FF3... mhh FF2?
[00:52] <n8tuser> JAM`-> well you may have to re-install hardy to make it work again..
[00:52] <JAM`> :(
[00:53] <oakmac> the external sound card is USB, btw
[00:53] <n8tuser> JAM`-> well sometimes the latest is not the greatest :)
[00:53] <guestguestnew> BrickHaus: i don't want to put my personal calendar online. or need to have internet access just to open it..
[00:53] <platius> JAM`;  hake sure gspca-source is installed
[00:53] <emilien> Dominik1,  try dillo , or opera
[00:53] <Dominik1> Dr_willis: I already tried seamonkey and swift fox, swift fox wasn't any faster and seamonkey just sucked (no features)
[00:53] <mib_6306it> After setting up 16GB of swap space (I have 8GB of RAM), I'm left with 277 GB of disk space. How would you divide it between / and /home?
[00:53] <Peter_G> Hey, ari_stress:  I did exactly as you said, and it works!  It works like a dream!  Thank you so much for all your help.
[00:53] <Dominik1> emilien: opera isn't open source :(
[00:53] <croddy> Dominik1, epiphany?
[00:53] <BrickHaus> guestguestnew: Ah. Ok. I see. If you don't like that then you should research what Open Office has to offer. I'm sure they have some kind of Calendaring template that you can install
[00:54] <Dr_willis> Dominik1 guess you painted yourself into a corner then... good luck. :P
[00:54] <Dr_willis> links -g ! :)
[00:54] <croddy> i don't know whether epiphany will be any lighter, but it's worth a try
[00:54] <emilien> Dominik1,  dillo is very light but is also very basic ..
[00:54] <Izinucs> Dominik1: elinks?
[00:55] <musikgoat> mib_6306it: your root dir doesn't need to be more than 5 to 10GB
[00:55] <Dominik1> emilien: I would like to support to open source community
[00:55] <musikgoat> mib_6306it: the rest give to /home
[00:55] <mib_6306it> musikgoat: so if I really wanted to be generous I could do 17GB root, 260 home
[00:55] <musikgoat> mib_6306it: assuming you are using this as a personal machine, not a web server or anything
[00:55] <musikgoat> mib_6306it: sure
[00:55] <oakmac> Any thoughts on the sound card issue?
[00:55] <mib_6306it> musikgoat: development machine
[00:56] <oakmac> how to tell ubuntu to reload my USB device?
[00:56] <Dominik1> lol, most importantly it has to be able to synchronize bookmarks, is there one that can do that that is not ff or opera?
[00:56] <musikgoat> mib_6306it: yeah, i cant imagine you'll even come close to using 17GB if home is separate, so have at it
[00:56] <ari_stress> guestguestnew: try xcal, i've just found it
[00:56] <Cav> I am trying to install Ubuntu 8.10 on another computer, I am at step 5 of 7 where it asks for user names, etc...the problem is my keyboard is non responsive.  If I quit the install and restart, I get the same thing each time.  Keyboard works as I swapped with my windows machine.  Been to the install help, and couldn't find anything regarding keyboard issues.  Any help?
[00:56] <Dominik1> and how does FF2 compare, I never used to have issues before FF3 came out, but everybody says FF3 is "faster" so I always though I had different issues
[00:56] <leppie-> having a great time with nvidia drivers if anyone has any suggestions: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=982417
[00:57] <Dr_willis> Cav,  it works on the screens befor that however?
[00:57] <Cav> DrWillia...yes
[00:57] <mib_6306it> musikgoat: thank you
[00:57] <Dominik1> does anyone know where opera installs to? I just installed it but don't see it under internet
[00:57] <emilien> Dominik1,  do a google http://featherlinux.berlios.de/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=2735 for ex
[00:58] <LF|Irssi> Dominik1: its hidden .opera under your /home
[00:58] <musikgoat> mib_6306it: sure
[00:58] <Cav> for keyboard prefs I used the standard USA and USA options.....the keyboard plugged in to the other box is a plain jane basic keyboard.
[00:58] <guestguestnew> ari_stress: ok i'll check it
[00:58] <Dominik1> LF|Irssi: thanks
[00:58] <LF|Irssi> np
[00:58] <ari_stress> guestguestnew: it's rather too simple i'm afraid
[00:58] <Dominik1> is the terminal that comes with xubuntu any faster then the one that comes with ubuntu?
[00:58] <ari_stress> i'll look for more packages
[00:59] <Dr_willis> Dominik1,  i doubt if the terminal programs are that much more optmized/speedier in xubuntu then ubuntu... You could install the xuuntu terminal ifyou like it better...
[01:00] <Dr_willis> I thought Xubuntu used 'Terminall' by default  vs. gnome-terminal in gnome
[01:00] <Dominik1> Dr_willis: the reason why im asking is cause I installed the xubuntu desktop, so now I have alot more applications in the accessories
[01:00] <Izinucs> leppie-: check out the nvidia linux forum. I was there today and just happened to remember something about xinerama causing issues on the 7/8 series boards.. there's also suggestions on how to get more performance out of your card..
[01:01] <Dr_willis> Dominik1,  xfce seems very 'closely' related to gnome in a lot of what it does/libs/other bits..
[01:01] <d1ng0> so, who can help me with the ubuntu 8.10 install problem ? It throws some firmware errors that flash by too fast to notice, and then ends and throws me back to ... a command prompt.
[01:01] <Dominik1> emilien: I find it funny that featherlinux is maintained by the germans : )
[01:02] <Dominik1> Dr_willis: I will now evaluate FF2, if that does the trick I don't have to move to Opera ... hold your thumbs
[01:02] <Meshach> d1ng0: Do you have a corrupted CD?
[01:02] <ari_stress> guestguestnew: i found several interesting packages: gkrellm-reminder - useful reminder plugin for gkrellm, remind - a sophisticated reminder service
[01:02] <d1ng0> no, just had it check itself, nothing wrong with the CD
[01:03] <sachaquel> anyone know where the firefox/thunderbird executable is located? the ones in /usr/bin are some comvulted bash scripts...
[01:03] <Vandalism_dstryr> Does Ubunto 8.X Support a Linksys Wireless PCI adpater?
[01:03] <BrickHaus> d1ng0: look in /var/log/messages to see whats going on. Either corrupted CD or you don't have enough memory to handle the uncompressing
[01:03] <Vandalism_dstryr> ubuntu*
[01:03] <Meshach> Vandalism_dstryr: Yes
[01:03] <Vandalism_dstryr> ^_^ yay!
[01:03] <Meshach> Vandalism_dstyr: AFAIK
[01:03] <emilien> Dominik1,  never tried it , i guess i should always been bit of a firefox fan
[01:03] <Meshach> Ubuntu rules!
[01:03] <guestguestnew> ari_stress: thanks man i'll check it out
[01:04] <BrickHaus> Meshach: Linux rules. When it works.. ;)
[01:04] <ari_stress> guestguestnew: welcome, i'm trying remind and tkremind now
[01:04] <BrickHaus> Meshach: all the fun is getting it to work.. :D
[01:04] <Lancelot> how do I force an un-mount?
[01:04] <bthornton> ﻿I just installed the tomcat-5.5 and tomcat-5.5 admin packages on Ubuntu 8.04.1. I pointed my browser at http://localhost:8180/ and just get a blank page. Is that normal?
[01:04] <Lancelot> i want to un-mount my ext. hard drive
[01:05] <Dominik1> emillien: I have always been FF fan but since FF3 I am started to hate it, bloat makes me upset, just because hardware is advanceing doesn't give the coder the right to slack on efficiency
[01:05] <musikgoat> sachaquel: /usr/lib/
[01:05] <ari_stress> bthornton: it should show you the tomcat welcome page
[01:05] <n8tuser> Lancelot-> sudo fuser -k /dev/sdX
[01:05] <bthornton> ari_stress: That's what I thought. it's connecting but not serving any content
[01:05] <sachaquel> thanks, musikgoat
[01:06] <LF|Irssi> !tomcat
[01:06] <bthornton> all I did was install the packages. did I miss a step?
[01:06] <ari_stress> guestguestnew: remind and tkremind is really nice! i might actually use it
[01:06] <n8tuser> Lancelot-> sudo fuser -k /dev/sdX  or maybe its  -m
[01:06] <BrickHaus>  Lancelot: I believe "umount -f" your drive path. Man umount just to make sure
[01:06] <ari_stress> bthornton: how about sudo /etc/init.d/tomcat restart
[01:06] <guestguestnew> ari_stress: which do you think is better?
[01:06] <Lancelot> ummm
[01:06] <Lancelot> which one? lol
[01:06] <ari_stress> guestguestnew: tkremind is the tk interface (GUI)
[01:07] <bthornton> already tried it. no errors, but still no content
[01:07] <n8tuser> Lancelot-> man fuser  to get better reading and explanations
[01:07] <ari_stress> bthornton: hmmm
[01:07] <guestguestnew> ari_stress: its the gui of remind for gkrellm?
[01:07] <BrickHaus> Lancelot: why are you trying to force and umounting?
[01:07] <CorpseFeeder> I must be blind or stupid... I am SURE I read somewhere in the Ubuntu 8.10 upgrade release notes that there was an issue with ATI graphics cards... but I can't seem to find it anywhere on hlep.ubuntu.com.....
[01:07] <Meshach> BrickHaus: Totally agree!
[01:07] <Meshach> BrickHaus: :D
[01:08] <ari_stress> guestguestnew: it's the GUI for remind. waw! it has some advance options too
[01:08] <DarkKnight> ikonia; u ther
[01:08] <jrib> !notes | CorpseFeeder
[01:08] <Lancelot> because it won't mount my external hard drive properly, BrickHaus. I keep getting an error message
[01:08] <musikgoat> Lancelot: if its not mounting it, then you shouldn't have to umount it
[01:08] <BrickHaus> Lancelot: that sounds like an fstab issue. /etc/fstab
[01:08] <CorpseFeeder> aha - that's it.. fanx!
[01:08] <d1ng0> it doesn't give any errors that I can recognize. I'm like 80% newbie, but familiar somewhat
[01:08] <guestguestnew> ari_stress: does remind notify you automaticall without having to turn it on? i tried sunbird but i needed to open it first before it would give me my reminders
[01:08] <LF|Irssi> This is offtopic but if anyones having issues getting samba working, install the GUI frontend for it,  Gadmin then run 'gadmin' in terminal (its in the repos) it really helped me :)
[01:08] <Lancelot> no, i mean it is there, but for some reason, it doesn't connect
[01:09] <Lancelot> BrickHaus: so how should I type it?
[01:09] <DarkKnight> !stop |LF|Irssi
[01:09] <ari_stress> guestguestnew: yes, it starts with the ubuntu automatically, it even can send you email if you miss it :)
[01:09] <Lucifer_> LF|Irssi i love you for that one
[01:09] <musikgoat> DarkKnight: that seems harsh :-)
[01:09] <LF|Irssi> you're welcome :)  although i got yelled at :(
[01:10] <guestguestnew> ari_stress: cool! but i'm confused, do i need gkrellms for remind?
[01:10] <CorpseFeeder> Hmmm... my card doesn't appear to be in the range of cards mentioned which are supposed to have issues :(
[01:10] <ari_stress> guestguestnew: you only need this: remind and tkremind, no need gkrell
[01:10] <ari_stress> guestguestnew: let me try it by rebooting my ubuntu
[01:10] <BrickHaus> Lancelot: that is more than likely an fstab issue. I don't know. Every user doesn't have the /etc/fstab file configured the same. It all depends on how many drives you have and how they're partioned
[01:10] <DarkKnight> musikgoat; well i was experimenting ubottu messages.....whether it works
[01:11] <Lancelot> BrickHaus: oh. okay, well, sorry, but that doesn't help me at all...
[01:11] <LF|Irssi> ...!ot would of been nicer :P than !STOP
[01:11] <DarkKnight> musikgoat; i have a problem in installing flexbuilder...can u help?
[01:11] <musikgoat> DarkKnight: sorry, i don't even know what that is
[01:11] <Meshach> DarkKnight I have the same problem
[01:11] <musikgoat> DarkKnight: how are you trying to install it?
[01:11] <bigpook> Any xmodmap gurus here?
[01:11] <jrib> bigpook: best to just ask the channel your question.  If someone knows the answer, they will try to answer you
[01:12] <bigpook> k
[01:12] <DarkKnight> musikgota; Meshach; i downloaded it from adobe; and i m installing it then
[01:12] <Meshach> DarkKnight: Me too
[01:12] <DarkKnight> musikgota; Meshach; wen i install i get this error:  Preparing to install...
[01:12] <DarkKnight> Extracting the installation resources from the installer archive...
[01:12] <DarkKnight> Configuring the installer for this system's environment...
[01:12] <DarkKnight> No Java virtual machine could be found from your PATH
[01:12] <DarkKnight> environment variable.  You must install a VM prior to
[01:12] <DarkKnight> running this program.
[01:12] <FloodBot2> DarkKnight: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:13] <bigpook> I want to map 2 keys in xmodmap, for example, win + p = PageUp
[01:13] <bthornton> ah I needed the webapps package
[01:13] <bthornton> thanx
[01:13] <Meshach> DarkKnight: Exactly the same error I get!
[01:13] <musikgoat> DarkKnight: do you have sun-java6-jre installed?
[01:13] <Lucifer_> he's gone
[01:13] <musikgoat> Lucifer_: who?
[01:13] <Meshach> I'm still here and I have the same problem..
[01:13] <musikgoat> !who
[01:13] <DarkKnight> musikgoat; nope;
[01:13] <Code_Bleu> what is the best way to write a script to send keystrokes in linux?  Im wanting to write something that will allow me to automatically go the next page in StumbleUpon without having to keep pressing the keyboard shortcut or mouse clicking.  Any ideas?
[01:13] <Meshach> How do you copy and paste in the commmand prompt?
[01:14] <Lucifer_> my bad
[01:14] <d1ng0> Meshach, as far as I can determine at the moment, it is supposed to start something, but can't. Not showing in the messages
[01:14] <musikgoat> DarkKnight: that is what that error is saying
[01:14] <Lucifer_> srry
[01:14] <musikgoat> Lucifer_: no worries
[01:14] <Vandalism_dstryr> Is there any way to put Net Framework on Ubuntu, or to emulate it in some way?
[01:14] <supertanker> What does the 'lookup' function in Gnome Nettool do? Is there a command line equivilant?
[01:14] <musikgoat> DarkKnight: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre
[01:14] <jrib> musikgoat: highlight to copy, middle click to paste
[01:14] <jrib> Meshach: highlight to copy, middle click to paste
[01:14] <Code_Bleu> Vandalism_dstryr: Mono
[01:14] <BrickHaus> Lancelot: Ok. well. It's your machine. I'm just trying to point you in the right direction. What's the error that your getting?
[01:14] <Vandalism_dstryr> Mono?
[01:14] <darkbishop_> !sg
[01:14] <musikgoat> jrib: i got confused :-)
[01:14] <darkbishop_> !jp
[01:14] <iShock>  iShock.ircforce.org has IPv6 address 2001:5c0:9e3a::1
[01:14] <Meshach> jrib: No, i mean in the terminal, how do you copy and paste
[01:15] <jrib> Meshach: I just told you.  Do you mean without a mouse?
[01:15] <BrickHaus> jrib: with your mouse buttons
[01:15] <DarkKnight> musikgoat; so i need to just install right.... no need of setting any environment path; just see the mess8 again and tell me any other settings r required or not??
[01:15] <Code_Bleu> Vandalism_dstryr: Yes, not sure of the url, just google "linux mono"
[01:15] <darkbishop_> mono is a vb base project that can run vb.net
[01:15] <l7> hi, is anyone familiar with the smartctl command?  my hard drive's Hardware_ECC_Recovered attribute is really high and it makes me wonder if it's a healthy drive
[01:15] <musikgoat> DarkKnight: it should set the path automagically, but if you get the error after installing, head back here
[01:15] <fsufitch> hi. i'm having trouble with my wireless. i jsut got a new router, which is WPA2 not WEP as my old one, and i can't connect anymore. are there problems with ubuntu's wpa support?
[01:16] <jrib> fsufitch: i connect to wpa2 fine
[01:16] <darkbishop_> fsufitch: are u using 8.04 or 8.1
[01:16] <BrickHaus> !wpa
[01:16] <fsufitch> darkbishop, 8.10
[01:16] <DarkKnight> musikgoat; thanxx....can we have a private talk
[01:16] <Meshach> DarkKnigh
[01:16] <Code_Bleu> simulate keypress in linux?  any ideas how?
[01:16] <Meshach> DarkKnight: No please not I want to hear to I have the same problem
[01:16] <BrickHaus> jrib: take a look at that link the ubottu bot spit out..
[01:16] <musikgoat> Meshach: you said you have the same problem, did you install sun-java6-jre
[01:17] <fsufitch> jrib, another laptop works just fine, i know, it might be just mine
[01:17] <mina> Hi
[01:17] <darkbishop_> fsufitch: make sure ur wireless detect the ap... and its should promot you the passowrd
[01:17] <jrib> BrickHaus: do you mean fsufitch?
[01:17] <musikgoat> DarkKnight: keep it in the public
[01:17] <Mba7eth> hi guys ,,,,,, are there any application for controlling internet access period for each user
[01:17] <fsufitch> darkbishop, it does. so i give it the password, and it works for 30 seconds, and then prompts me for it again
[01:17] <BrickHaus> jrib:?
[01:17] <DarkKnight> Meshach; musikgoat has alrady given the solution; i need to personally chat; as this is not the right place to discuss somthing offtopic....
[01:17] <Meshach> Mba7eth: Tell them to stop using the computer... jk jk
[01:17] <jrib> BrickHaus: why do you want me to look at the wifi documentation?
[01:17] <fsufitch> BrickHaus, i was the one askign the question ;) thanks though! :)
[01:18] <mina> I got my voulme is so weak though it is on it is maximum, how to increase it ?
[01:18] <musikgoat> DarkKnight: pm then
[01:18] <mina> I got my voulme is so weak though it is on it is maximum, how to increase it ?
[01:18] <Mba7eth> hi guys ,,,,,, are there any application for controlling internet access period for each user .for big comapnies . i.e. give each user 2 hour of internet access each day
[01:18] <BrickHaus> fsufitch: Oh.. srry
[01:18] <mina> I got my voulme is so weak though it is on it is maximum, how to increase it ?
[01:18] <Vandalism_dstryr> Meh.. Wikipedia's Huggle, a vandal-fighting tool, reqires MS Net framework. darn.
[01:18] <jrib> !repeat | mina
[01:19] <Lancelot> BrickHaus: I sent you a pm
[01:19] <Synx_hm> How do i reset the ubuntu setting that tells it my bios is UTC or Local, i dual boot windows now and need to set it back to bios local
[01:19] <fsufitch> darkbishop_, i think i sent this message to your no-underscore acct: it does. so i give it the password, and it works for 30 seconds, and then prompts me for it again
[01:19] <DarkKnight> Meshach; did u get the solution
[01:19] <leppie-> having a great time with nvidia drivers if anyone has any suggestions: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=982417
[01:19] <fsufitch> darkbishop_, plus, when the dialog comes back and asks me again, the password it lists in the textbox before i change it is a hex monstrosity, not the nice thing i originally put in
[01:19] <Meshach> musikgoat: So do I just do an apt-get and then it's installed or do I have to install it?
[01:19] <darkbishop_> fsufitch: you can add the key in ur network connection manager...
[01:20] <musikgoat> Meshach: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre
[01:20] <fsufitch> darkbishop_, same effect...
[01:20] <Meshach> musikgoat: Then after that I can install flexbuilder right?
[01:20] <musikgoat> Meshach: give it a shot, i don't know if that is the only dependancy that flexbuilder needs
[01:20] <DarkKnight> Meshach; if u put the command as musikgoat has said...it'll install on its own
[01:21] <darkbishop_> fsufitch:sorry cant helpyou on this matter.maybe someone else can help.
[01:21] <Dominik1> are ther eany current distros that are still being maintaned that run on 14 megs of ram?
[01:21] <sergiu> hi, anyone know , how to lunch google gadgets?
[01:21] <sergiu> )
[01:21] <Meshach> DarkKnight; musikgoat; Thanks for the help
[01:21] <fsufitch> darkbishop_, thanks anyway
[01:21] <clever> !install
[01:21] <Hilikus> hey guys
[01:21] <scunizi> Dominik1, anyone suggest DSL (Damn Small Linux)
[01:21] <clever> !deb
[01:22] <Al1_> hi, i have a problem
[01:22] <Hilikus> i have a buzzing sound on only one of my audio channels, i'm using snd-intel8x0. if i modprob -r and modprobe again it stops buzzing, but as soon as i play something it starts again
[01:22] <Al1_> im trying to install Hamachi
[01:22] <Al1_> and i dont know what to do
[01:23] <DarkKnight> !DSL |scunizi
[01:23] <Hilikus> any ideas whats wrong? im pretty sure it's the sound driver
[01:23] <scunizi> DarkKnight, ubottu assumed the normal for internet connections..
[01:23] <musikgoat> Al1_: there are clear detailed instructions on the logmein site where hamachi is distributed
[01:23] <Al1_> i dont know the commands
[01:23] <Hilikus> restarting alsa doesnt work, only modprobing it does but momentarely
[01:23] <Al1_> for terminal
[01:24] <Al1_> im looking right at it
[01:24] <Al1_> i dont know where the make install file is
[01:24] <DarkKnight> scunizi; google out...u'll surely get it
[01:24] <Al1_> and how to run it
[01:24] <Dominik1> scuizi: ill try that
[01:24] <mina> I got my voulme is so weak though it is on it is maximum, how to increase it ?
[01:24] <musikgoat> !build-essentials | Al1_
[01:24] <WebcamWonder> !channels
[01:24] <Meshach> Al1_: Just type make
[01:24] <Code_Bleu> sending key strokes in linux?  What would i use to write a script to press the keys ALT-ESC ?
[01:24] <scunizi> DarkKnight, don't need it .. I was referencing it for someone else..
[01:24] <slestak> ihave an intrepid machine that has a static ip set with NM that will not stick between reboots.  ive googled and looked through launchapd and see some stuff ~sep in beta.
[01:24] <Meshach> Al1_: Then type make install
[01:25] <slestak> anyone else using static ip with II desktop?
[01:25] <WebcamWonder> Does anyone know the "What is the best application" channel?
[01:25] <Al1_> k
[01:26] <musikgoat> never heard of it WebcamWonder, have you checked the freenode channel list?
[01:26] <LF|Irssi> anyone else having java issues with operah? I have the sun-java6-jre package installed already, what am i missing?
[01:26] <LF|Irssi> opera*
[01:26] <Meshach> How do I install Opera via apt-get?
[01:26] <Al1_> how do i define my target/
[01:26] <scunizi> WebcamWonder, #linux, #ubuntu-offtopic, ##windows (no don't go there) :)
[01:27] <musikgoat> Meshach: sudo apt-get install opera
[01:27] <WebcamWonder> scunizi, musikgoat, I don't remember which forum it was, but there was this bot where you could vote on your favourite applications, and find out the best rated applications
[01:27] <WebcamWonder> Does anyone know a good Photo manager?
[01:27] <Meshach> musikgoat: Do you know if you can do multiple apt-get at one time from different terminals?
[01:27] <musikgoat> !best | WebcamWonder
[01:28]  * d1ng0 sighs at his stupid laptop
[01:28] <musikgoat> Meshach: no
[01:28] <oakmac> I have an external sound card.  Sometimes it crashes and I have to restart it (it's a hardware problem I've had to years).  When this happens, how do I tell Ubuntu to "reload" this piece of hardware?  Right now I have to reboot my computer in order to get sound back.
[01:28] <musikgoat> Meshach: one at a time
[01:28] <WebcamWonder> musikgoat, Thank you. :)
[01:28] <musikgoat> WebcamWonder: yw
[01:28] <LF|Irssi> i cant get log-in buttons to work (like the login button on gmail and any other site that uses java buttons like Drupal with Opera 9.62 i have sun-java6-jre installed though
[01:28] <buu> Ok
[01:28] <euzao> !fat32
[01:28] <Meshach> musikgoat: Ok thanks
[01:28] <musikgoat> Meshach: sure
[01:28] <scunizi> WebcamWonder, other then Picassa.. Mapivi looks a little crude but does a good job.. It also offers ipsc (sp?) and exif data manipulation and lossless rotation/edit
[01:29] <Meshach> musikgoat: Added you as friend on the forums
[01:29] <d1ng0> hmm, this is weird .. the gnome display manager *is* actually running, but it showed only a cursor...
[01:29] <WebcamWonder> scunizi, Is it worth running Picasa under Wine?
[01:29] <Vandalism_dstryr> how can I use a program tat specifically requires MS'es Net Framework on Ubuntu?
[01:29] <buu> I'm sure this is some kind of terrible FAQ, but I just installed unbuntu 8.10 on a box with two monitors set up with an ATI Radeon 9200. I'm attempting to follow the steps of various guides on forums, but I seem to be stymied by the fact that dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg is just producing an extremely generic xorg.conf file containing just 3 sections (screen/monitor/etc) each containing just a single identifier line.
[01:29] <ari_stress> guestguestnew: i guest remind is not so cool after all, i'm trying korganizer now
[01:30] <Al1_> no rule to make target 'install' stop
[01:30] <scunizi> WebcamWonder, I also use fspot but I keep forgetting to turn off the feature that moves the pics to new directories.  Picasa works great under wine but might be a little resource hog.
[01:30] <Al1_> ?
[01:30] <buu> Is there a better way to produce an xorg.conf that more accurately reproduces my hardware?
[01:30] <buu> Or a simpler way to enable dual head
[01:30] <musikgoat> Al1_: that means u didn't make before you make install
[01:30] <Al1_> no targets specified
[01:30] <Al1_> and no makefile found
[01:30] <scunizi> buu, check out xrandr which is what is being used for x setup. xorg.conf is just ancillarry and for things like tablets mice etc.
[01:30] <WebcamWonder> scunizi, Sorry to be offensive, I know the rules of this channel but, F-Spot is dog slow
[01:31] <musikgoat> Al1_: do you see a file in the directory called configure?
[01:31] <darkbishop_> Ali: have u run /.configure?
[01:31] <Al1_> i see a makefile
[01:31] <Al1_> readme
[01:31] <musikgoat> darkbishop_: not quite,   ./configure
[01:31] <Al1_> changes
[01:31] <buu> scunizi: Oh, er, ok.
[01:31] <Vandalism_dstryr> Hello?
[01:31] <Vandalism_dstryr> how can I use a program tat specifically requires MS'es Net Framework on Ubuntu?
[01:31] <darkbishop_> sorry typo
[01:31] <Vandalism_dstryr> that*
[01:32] <Al1_> no such file
[01:32] <manolo> what can i do to make my other wifi card work ?
[01:32] <LF|Irssi> Opera java works just fine in PC-BSD...why can't i get it working in Ubuntu? I have sun-java6-jre installed and everything what gives?
[01:32] <darkbishop_> wine.
[01:32] <WebcamWonder> !info Mapivi
[01:32] <n8tuser> manolo-> you're implying that another is already working?
[01:32] <manolo> is a belkin old card
[01:32] <musikgoat> Al1_: the readme here:  http://files.hamachi.cc/linux/README   says it should already be compiled,  and make install should work
[01:33] <Al1_> it doesnt...
[01:33] <musikgoat> Al1_: as root,  so sudo
[01:33] <Al1_> ok
[01:33] <manolo> well yea is a usb that i use with pc n not this laptop
[01:33] <Al1_> same
[01:33] <n8tuser> !who
[01:33] <Vandalism_dstryr> Hello? can anyone anser my question?
[01:33] <Al1_> is there anything i need to do before any of this?
[01:33] <Al1_> like something simple
[01:34] <n8tuser> !enter | Al1_
[01:34] <oakmac> How do I disable and then re-enable a USB device?
[01:34] <Al1_> ubottu: sorry!
[01:34] <TarballabraT> anyone mess with ReactOS?
[01:34] <yeryry> heh
[01:34] <Vandalism_dstryr> Heh, I've accidentally pressed the enter key mid sentence quite a few times.
[01:34] <n8tuser> oakmac-> plug and unplug?
[01:34] <musikgoat> Al1_:  not from what hamachi says...  i'd try asking in #hamachi
[01:34] <buu> scunizi: Hrm, it's complaining that the screen can't be larger than 1600x1200, do I just need to add some kind of mode line?
[01:34] <d1ng0> okay, the error begins when it tries to start Ubiquity and the firmware errors are in b43/ucode5.fw
[01:34] <n8tuser> oakmac-> rather unplug then re-plug it back in?
[01:35] <Al1_> k
[01:35] <kindofabuzz> what's the best way to reset all the stuff in my LAMP server to defaults? purge and reinstall?
[01:35] <n8tuser> kindofabuzz-> yes
[01:35] <kindofabuzz> k
[01:35] <DarkKnight>  musikgoat; i installed; same error again
[01:35] <Vandalism_dstryr> Hello hello? Hello? Hello?
[01:35] <jasta> I seem not to have sun-java5-plugin packages in Ubuntu 8.04?  Does anyone know what that's about?
[01:35] <d1ng0> then there's X server errors that failed to start
[01:35] <n8tuser> d1ng0-> broadcom 43xx chip is infamous for not playing nicely with ubuntu..
[01:35] <jasta> oh, could this be because i'm using amd64?
[01:36] <non-mouse> Hi guys.  I just broke my evolution on ubuntu 8.10 by allowing an udate to evolution-common.  Anyone know how to get evolution back?
[01:36] <oakmac> that didn't work n8tuser
[01:36] <scunizi> buu, brb
[01:36] <d1ng0> n8tuser: I am almost a complete newbie to Unix ...
[01:36] <musikgoat> DarkKnight: one sec
[01:36] <oakmac> here's what happens: my soundcard (which is external USB) crashes every now and then
[01:36] <oakmac> this is a hardware problem
[01:36] <oakmac> when i reset it, Ubuntu still doesn't recognize it and I can't get sound
[01:36] <n8tuser> d1ng0-> being a complete newbie, may I suggest you read a book or do some tutorials on ubuntu or linux in general ?
[01:37] <Vandalism_dstryr> PLZ HELP ME AGAIN! Is it entirely possible for somethign that is only compatible with MS'es Net Framework to run on Ubuntu? Like say, though a program which creates a compatible enviremonet for net. framework to run?
[01:37] <Vandalism_dstryr> enviroment*
[01:37] <conscience> hi!
[01:37] <GodfatherofEire> Quick question, what's the GtkRC file technically for?
[01:37] <musikgoat> DarkKnight: what is the output of echo $JAVA_HOME
[01:38] <Vandalism_dstryr> am I being ignored?
[01:38] <scunizi> buu, what kind of rez are you looking for?
[01:38] <oakmac> Vandalism_dstryr: look up Mono
[01:38] <conscience> can anybody teel me how can i see on firefox when i go to a url what others urls the site go?
[01:38] <d1ng0> n8tuser: okay, not that big a newbie. I mean, I do find my way around most things .. thing is, I have no clue where this error starts precisely.
[01:38] <Vandalism_dstryr> Huggle apparently doesn't work in MOno
[01:38] <DarkKnight>  musikgoat; just an empty space
[01:38] <Vandalism_dstryr> according to the guys in #Wikipedia-en
[01:38] <buu> scunizi: I'm just trying to get dual-head working
[01:39] <WebcamWonder> Vandalism_dstryr, No vandalism tools AFAIK work on Linux as yet
[01:39] <n8tuser> d1ng0-> google for ubuntu broadcom 43xx  and you'll find lots
[01:39] <scunizi> buu ah.. have you tried man xrandr for the docs?
[01:39] <Vandalism_dstryr> AFAIK?
[01:39] <musikgoat> DarkKnight: pastebin what you have from this command: sudo update-alternatives --config java
[01:39] <oakmac> Vandalism_dstryr: in my experience, if you really need to run a Windows program in linux just run it in Linux using VirtualBox
[01:39] <manolo> i where saying if i can make belkin card use ...that is a pcmia for a laptop
[01:39] <WebcamWonder> Vandalism_dstryr, As far as I know
[01:39] <Vandalism_dstryr> Oh...
[01:39] <manolo> any idea plz
[01:39] <oakmac> Vandalism_dstryr: I use VirtualBox inside linux almost every day to trade foreign currency
[01:39] <kri> hi why cant you keybind things with the windows buttom + another buttom?
[01:40] <buu> scunizi: Er, yeah, it mentions --left-of and --right-of, but I told you the error I saw. There's not much else there.
[01:40] <GodfatherofEire> Could somebody tell me exactly what the GtkRC file is and what it is used for?
[01:40] <buu> scunizi: Certainly nothing that specifically addresses this problem.
[01:40] <Eressolar> Right. Anyone have any clue why an Intrepid install via alternate CD leaves me with a grub prompt after reboot, while a Hardy install via alt CD configures grub absolutely fine?
[01:41] <scunizi> buu, sorry I'm not really that good at figuring out these problems.. my machines just seem to work so my experience level is pretty low on video diagnostics
[01:41] <oakmac> Does anyone have an idea on how I can force Ubuntu to reload all of my USB devices?
[01:41] <oakmac> or reload my hardware
[01:41] <scunizi> oakmac, reboot
[01:41] <miickee> I NEED A LINUX COMMAND TO GET RID OF GRUB, NOT AN XP ONE. Anyone can help me please?
[01:41] <Vandalism_dstryr> O_o
[01:42] <oakmac> there is a way to do this without rebooting the kernel; i'm sure of it
[01:42] <Meshach> miickee: No need to shout.
[01:42] <Vandalism_dstryr> What about MIRC? Does that work on Ubuntu?
[01:42] <miickee> You have to in this channel mate lol
[01:42] <scunizi> miickee, are you no longer running linux?
[01:42] <miickee> I am
[01:42] <iShock> Anyone mind helping with IPv6? I'm having some problems with it.l
[01:42] <Meshach> miickee: Post on the forums.
[01:42] <miickee> I just need to get rid of the bootloader first
[01:42] <DarkKnight> muskigoat; http://paste.ubuntu.com/72162/
[01:43] <DIFH-iceroot> Vandalism_dstryr: use xchat or irssi
[01:43] <scunizi> miickee, and what are you planning on using as a boot loader.. lilo?
[01:43] <conscience> can anybody help me with a person that is always trying to get in my ubuntu, and had made some entarnces
[01:43] <exmachina> wtf's the name of the terminal in xubuntu?
[01:43] <musikgoat> DarkKnight: type 6 and enter
[01:43] <exmachina> i can't seem to launch terminal
[01:43] <miickee> No.. I am not going to be running dual boot anymore, I am totally starting fresh.
[01:43] <Vandalism_dstryr> so I can take that answer as a no?
[01:43] <miickee> So my MBR, I want it gone.
[01:43] <DIFH-iceroot> conscience: reinstall and use the backup if there is a break in
[01:43] <DIFH-iceroot> Vandalism_dstryr: correct
[01:43] <Vandalism_dstryr> darn.
[01:43] <musikgoat> Vandalism_dstryr: if mirc works in wine, that would be the only method
[01:43] <DarkKnight> muskigoat; output:  Using '/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/bin/java' to provide 'java'.
[01:43] <conscience> not rigth now
[01:43] <Meshach> Vandalism_dstyr: Install ChatZilla addon for firefox it's what I use and love
[01:43] <kri> hm
[01:44] <d1ng0> n8tuser: those searches turn up with situations where Ubuntu is already installed
[01:44] <conscience> i have rebot
[01:44] <musikgoat> Vandalism_dstryr: but its probly not going to be as good as some of the native irc clients in linux
[01:44] <kri> why can i keybind ctrl+whatever or alt+whatever but not SUPER-L?
[01:44] <musikgoat> DarkKnight:
[01:44] <GodfatherofEire> Could somebody please tell me what the gtkrc file is, what it does, and exactly what it is used for?
[01:44] <Vandalism_dstryr> Stupid XP Activation.... Won't let me install on 2 PC's. Really pisses meh off...
[01:44] <sleeping143> Has anyone heard of any solutions to the Rhythmbox tag bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/rhythmbox/+bug/235945
[01:44] <miickee> Hello??
[01:44] <DarkKnight> muskigoat;ya
[01:44] <scunizi> miickee, If you're going with straight linux and reinstalling then you'll still end up with grub.. it's needed for booting.. you can't get rid of it unless you're using something else.
[01:44] <musikgoat> DarkKnight: ok, now logout and back in and let me know the output of echo $JAVA_HOME again
[01:44] <n8tuser> d1ng0-> you dont have ubuntu installed yet? try using the livecd first
[01:44] <conscience> do you think that is enaugh plus with firestarter with withelist
[01:45]  * Vandalism_dstryr slaps Microsoft with a large trout, shattering it's jaw and rupturing it's eyeballs.
[01:45] <scunizi> miickee, now if you just want to get rid of the Windows reference in grub that's easy
[01:45] <DarkKnight> musikgoat; i need to rush 2 college now...can we meet 12 hrs after from now
[01:45] <BHSPitCSP> Vandalism_dstryr: just install Ubuntu on two machines
[01:45] <musikgoat> Vandalism_dstryr: complain in ##windows, we don't care
[01:45] <sleeping143> And if no one has, does anyone know of a tool for stripping APEv2 tags from mp3 files?
[01:45] <conscience> can you teel me how i can see on firefox the url that is need to enter in the sites so i can add a rule on firestarter
[01:45] <musikgoat> DarkKnight: no, i will not be available at that percise time, let me give you a link if you still have trouble
[01:45] <miickee> No, jeez.. When I reinstall linux it will reinstall grub, ok?
[01:46] <miickee> I just want to get rid of it and install it fresh\
[01:46] <miickee> I want a clean slate to work with
[01:46] <d1ng0> n8tuser: that's what I am trying ... it drops to a command shell, after an error with .. X server when trying to start Ubiquity.
[01:46] <Vandalism_dstryr> BHSPitCSP: If I install Linux on 2 machines, I will not be able to use Huggle without any sort of hassle. I don't want that...
[01:46] <DarkKnight> muskigoat; k ...
[01:46] <lianimator> In Intrepid, you can no longer Ctrl+H to unhide things directly on the Desktop, confirm anyone?
[01:46] <n8tuser> d1ng0-> with a liveCD rom ?
[01:46] <GodfatherofEire> Hello? Could somebody tell me exactly what the GtkRC file is?
[01:46] <miickee> So yeah, all I need is a little command to do what I want.
[01:46] <DarkKnight> muskigoat; i m waiting
[01:47] <miickee> And as far as I know you guys know what it is.
[01:47] <miickee> So could I please get that off you?
[01:47] <scunizi> miickee, then all you need to do is put the live cd in and when you get to the partitioner choose "manual" and delete all partitions, then recreate 3 partitions. on that is 8-12 gigs for root "/".. the next 1 gig for /swap and the rest for /home
[01:47] <musikgoat> DarkKnight: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=6034    <- that will show you how to set a $PATH for $JAVA_HOME but keep in mind the absolute path you saw in your pastebin for the version of java you want
[01:47] <d1ng0> n8tuser: yes, the the LiveCD
[01:47] <miickee> No..
[01:47] <WebcamWonder> Vandalism_dstryr, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Counter-Vandalism_Unit
[01:47] <n8tuser> d1ng0-> then your laptop does not support it, you can try alternatecd  but thats a text install
[01:48] <miickee> I am installing a completely new linux os, and deleting partitions does not remove grub or refresh the mbr
[01:48] <DarkKnight> muskigoat; thanxxx.bye
[01:48] <conscience> can anybody teel me how i can see the urls that is need when enter in some url besides the one i am enter, to make a rule on firestarter
[01:48] <miickee> So yeah, please can I get that command?
[01:48] <scunizi> miickee, doesn't matter the new linux os will overwrite the MBR and create a new grub anyway..
[01:49] <miickee> But the old entries will be in there
[01:49] <scunizi> miickee, no they won't
[01:49] <pino> I have a problem with my Wifi-Connection (not crypted). I can not find my Wifi network with my eee 900. With other PCs I have no problem.
[01:49] <Vandalism_dstryr> WebcamWonder, I'm a vandal-fighter who is addicted to Huggle. I can't stand to use anything else. besides, I've got a copy of XP to use on any one computer to my liking. I am used to XP. I'm putting XP pro on my new laptop, because the idiots at HP decided to use XP Home as the OS for the recovery CD.
[01:49] <miickee> Are you sure?
[01:49] <yeryry> ok so seems the nvidia driver shouldn't work for me after all.. so then why did the restricted thing tell me I should install it.. >.>
[01:49] <lvlefisto> hi, i made a custom iso image using remastersys. i tried to make a LiveUSB using the Intrepid tool but it didn't let me. The iso image is not accepted. How can i make a LiveUSB using this iso image?
[01:50] <scunizi> miickee, the grub list (entries) is located on your main system at /boot/grub/menu.list
[01:50] <Vandalism_dstryr> and I can just put Linux on my tower.....
[01:50]  * Vandalism_dstryr slaps himself for coming up with an idea
[01:50] <miickee> Good, so why am I finding on all these sites that deleting your partition won't delete grub?
[01:50] <LCF> !who
[01:50] <WebcamWonder> Vandalism_dstryr, Well yeah. I am not quite the active anti-vandal, but I do play around with Twinkle. But, doing a little check with bug reports, none of the famous anti-vandal tools yet work on Linux
[01:51] <lyken2> hello
[01:51] <GodfatherofEire> Will somebody please tell me what the GtkRC file is for?
[01:52] <lyken2> quick question. How does one change the graphic interface (desktop)
[01:52] <scunizi> lyken2, to what?
[01:52] <ryanfabros> Hello
[01:52] <ryanfabros> I just installed ubuntu for the first time... I have a question... Anyone can help? :P
[01:52] <lyken2> scunizi: the resolution is too big I can barely see anything
[01:53] <scunizi> lyken2, that's a video card issue.. what kind of card do you have?
[01:53] <musikgoat> lyken2: system -> preferences -> screen resolution
[01:53] <kompulsa_dot_com> I think that mtpfs should come preinstalled on Ubuntu distributions.
[01:53] <d1ng0> n8tuser: a 512MB memory, AMD 2600 should be enough now should it.
[01:53] <lyken2> Musickgoat: tried and failed
[01:53] <musikgoat> lyken2: then listen to scunizi
[01:53] <musikgoat> heh
[01:53] <scunizi> musikgoat, that only works when the video driver is configured correctly
[01:53] <GodfatherofEire> For God's sake, will somebody tell me exactly what the GtkRC file is?
[01:53] <n8tuser> d1ng0-> but video driver for it may not be supported?
[01:53] <musikgoat> scunizi: i misunderstood his statement, thanks
[01:53] <csilk> GodfatherofEire,  GtkRC controls the theme of your desktop, (I think)
[01:54] <lyken2> scunizi: I removed the video card. This pc is one I've found and fixed (mostly)
[01:54] <csilk> GodfatherofEire, also, learnToGoole -_-
[01:54] <csilk> *google
[01:54] <scunizi> lyken2, so what kind of card is in it?
[01:54] <GodfatherofEire> csilk, I did google it, and the only results were for modding it
[01:54] <GodfatherofEire> I couldnt find anything else on it
[01:54] <lyken2> scunizi: onboard, I can't have the video card anymore because when I play video the pc shuts off
[01:54] <ryanfabros> Anyway, I'll just throw this out there: I've tried reading how to install nvidia drivers but when I go to System=>Administration=>Hardware Drivers it's not there (I'm using the latest Ubuntu 8.10 Desktop). Also, I can't set my screen resolution more than 800x600 :(
[01:54] <csilk> GodfatherofEire, I'm sure at somepoint you must of some across description of what it is
[01:54] <musikgoat> lyken2: if you have video, then you have a video card, even if its connected to the motherboard
[01:54] <lianimator> GodfatherofEire: gtkrc is the configuration file of the gtk-window-decorator and the theme
[01:55] <scunizi> lyken2, so it's an onboard video card.. do you know what kind it is?
[01:55] <GodfatherofEire> Ah, thanks lianimator
[01:55] <lianimator> GodfatherofEire: if you were to make a new theme, you'd have to make a gtkrc file
[01:55] <scunizi> lyken2, nvidia? ATI? Intel? SiS
[01:55] <GodfatherofEire> And has there been any word on fixing usplash in 8.10.
[01:55] <lyken2> scunizi:the motherboard says Aopen, but since I've found this custom pc in the junk I know nothing else
[01:55] <musikgoat> GodfatherofEire: you have that beep problem?
[01:55] <ryanfabros> I'm using Nvidia tnt riva btw.
[01:55] <robertcarpenter> is there a way to restrict a copy or move to only files owned by a certain user? like a user filter on cp?
[01:56] <Ruge> w00t
[01:56] <Ruge> got my ubuntu installed
[01:56] <GodfatherofEire> Musikgoat, no, it just doesnt load. Nada, less I use splashy or the default ubuntu usplash
[01:56] <LF|Irssi> !yay | Ruge
[01:56] <musikgoat> GodfatherofEire: oh, then i'm not sure
[01:56] <GodfatherofEire> Lianimator, I just didnt want to mess around with something I had no Idea what it did
[01:56] <scunizi> lyken2, open a terminal from Applications/Accessories and type lspci in all lower case letters.. after hitting enter there will be a lot of stuff listed. Look for the video card reference.
[01:56] <karen> can anyone help me with a xubuntu problem?
[01:57] <BHSPitCSP> !ask
[01:57] <lyken2> scunizi: how do I give you the results without flooding the channel
[01:57] <karen> oook
[01:57] <BHSPitCSP> !pastebin
[01:58] <karen> my touchpad mouse is too slow in xubuntu, how can i modify it?
[01:58] <ryanfabros> I've tried reading how to install nvidia drivers (using TNT RIVA) but when I go to System=>Administration=>Hardware Drivers it's not there (I'm using the latest Ubuntu 8.10 Desktop). Also, I can't set my screen past 800x600. Anyone can advise?
[01:58] <lyken2> scunizi: nvm, I think this is it. 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 65x/M650/740 PCI/AGP VGA Display Adapter
[01:58] <musikgoat> !pastebinit | lyken2 Also this is nice
[01:58] <musikgoat> what?
[01:58] <GodfatherofEire> so, nobody knows of any fix for the boot splash other than to use splashy?
[01:58] <musikgoat> !info pastebinit
[01:58] <LF|Irssi> i think its !info <command> yeah there ya go :)
[01:58] <scunizi> lyken2, Yep.. sounds like it.. hang on and I'll get you a command that might fix it.
[01:58] <musikgoat> LF|Irssi: heh, thanks
[01:59] <lyken2> scunizi: thank you!
[01:59] <lianimator> GodfatherofEire: one day I'll learn how to edit the gtkrc file.. sometimes I spend days tweaking a theme..
[01:59] <Fenix|home> Greetings... how do I go about installing Ubuntu on a computer with a dead CD Rom?
[01:59] <lianimator> Fenix|home: try USB
[01:59] <LCF> fenix USB?
[01:59] <musikgoat> Fenix|home: if your mobo supports it, you could install from usb
[01:59] <scunizi> lyken2, type this in a terminal  sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[02:00] <lianimator> Fenix|home: or borrow a CD-rom from another computer. ;)
[02:00] <graham-pol> Does anyone know how to patch WoW on Ubuntu, it's not cooperating with wine.
[02:01] <Fenix|home> It's an old laptop
[02:01] <Fenix|home> and I don't think it supports USB booting
[02:01] <lyken2> scunizi: was something supposed to open? I got this.  warning: overwriting possibly-customised configuration
[02:01] <lianimator> Fenix|home: how would you install other OSes?
[02:01] <ryanfabros> Okay... I guess I'll just go google again... Bye
[02:01] <musikgoat> Fenix|home: how old?    i would check this out just in case:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[02:02] <Lancelot>  I need help fixing my dbus. I'm getting "DBus error org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken.". It broke when I upgraded from 8.04 to 8.10.
[02:02] <musikgoat> lyken2: your xorg is broken anyways, so thats ok
[02:02] <scunizi> lyken2, that's typical.. now you'll have to restart.  ctrl+alt+backspace will restart the gui but in this case you might be better off just restarting.  You'll loose this connection.. just log back in.
[02:02] <BHSPitCSP> Fixing xorg is a lot trickier ever since they made it bulletproof.
[02:02] <lianimator> Lancelot: what did you do to cause this error? For me, inserting a USB flash drive causes this after "Invalid Mount Option"
[02:02] <graham-pol> Lancelot: I suggest you downgrate to .04 again. 10 minimises video driver support.
[02:03] <BHSPitCSP> It breaks just as often, now it's just more unpredictable :)
[02:03] <lyken2> scunizi: brb
[02:03] <scunizi> k
[02:03] <Fenix|home> musikgoat, doesn't recognise my usb key as a bootable device
[02:03] <Lancelot> lianimator: i inserted a usb external hard drive
[02:03] <musikgoat> BHSPitCSP: that and the new xorg is troublesome
[02:03] <Fenix|home> it's a PIII
[02:03] <c00l2sv> !IRCLogin login
[02:03] <musikgoat> Fenix|home: have you made your usb key bootable?
[02:03] <lianimator> Lancelot: same here..  I have to mount manually
[02:03] <BHSPitCSP> musikgoat: I'm in tty2 right now if that gives you a hint as to my situation
[02:03] <Fenix|home> musikgoat, yes
[02:03] <musikgoat> BHSPitCSP: i'm sorry to hear that
[02:03] <Lancelot> lianimator: and how do i do that?
[02:03] <Fenix|home> right now it's windows bootable
[02:04] <Fenix|home> and it doesn't boot
[02:04] <musikgoat> Fenix|home: what does that mean?
[02:04] <Fenix|home> that it has DOS
[02:04] <c00l2sv> !guys what should I put in config plugins.IRCLogin.UserList to make supybot load its database
[02:04] <c00l2sv> ?
[02:04] <maxbaldwin> Does anyone know how well Ubuntu runs on an eMachine?
[02:04] <musikgoat> Fenix|home: try this: https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/installation-guide/i386/boot-usb-files.html
[02:04] <BHSPitCSP> musikgoat: well, vesa is actually working fine, but I'm trying to get it to use fglrx.
[02:04] <matthias> hi, why cant my wirless card connect to my AP unless the AP is broadcastings its SSID ????
[02:04] <scunizi> maxbaldwin, I have it running on an old one.. 4+ yrs old.. and it works fine
[02:04] <maxbaldwin> c00l2sv: you should try #supybot
[02:04] <lianimator> for me the command is: sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /media/disk
[02:04] <c00l2sv> thx maxbaldwin
[02:05] <lianimator> Lancelot: for me the command is: sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /media/disk
[02:05] <Ruge> hmm
[02:05] <Ruge> maybe i need
[02:05] <Ruge> xubuntu
[02:05] <maxbaldwin> scunizi: Sure, sound works?
[02:05] <lianimator> Lancelot: I think you need to create /media/disk
[02:06] <arve> does anyone have any insight on RAID?
[02:06] <LF|Irssi> is VIM installed by default on most linux distros or just VI?
[02:06] <BHSPitCSP> matthias: I don't know, did you enter your AP's settings?
[02:06] <maxbaldwin> scunizi, how's the Sound working on it?
[02:06] <scunizi> maxbaldwin, I think it's working.. never tested it.. it's a headless server
[02:06] <musikgoat> LF|Irssi: vi is a symlink to vim i believe
[02:06] <BHSPitCSP> arve: I have some very informative pictures of drinking fountains
[02:07] <maxbaldwin> oh. My friend wanted to try ubuntu, but he wanted to know if the sound worked out of the box.
[02:07] <arve> BHSPitCSP: I am having a hard time seeing how that is relevant, but shoot :)
[02:07] <Anonymous02> maxbaldwin, it should
[02:07]  * Vandalism_dstryr begins the long and tedious process of copying his files from his tower to his laptop.
[02:07] <maxbaldwin> I;m sure that since eMachines are older computers, that they would work.
[02:07] <musikgoat> LF|Irssi: oops, actually vim.tiny
[02:07] <scunizi> maxbaldwin, have him try the live cd.. that should tell you.
[02:07] <matthias> BHSPitCSP:  WELL THE FIRST TIME ONLY WHEN ASKING TO CONNECT TO AN ap WITH VISIBLE ap
[02:07] <matthias> sorry caps
[02:07] <LF|Irssi> ok ty musikgoat
[02:07] <ahddm> Hello i was wondering if someone can help me with connecting to a windows share from my laptop
[02:07] <maxbaldwin> !caps | matthias
[02:07] <amriedle> When i boot into Ubuntu (8.10) it just shows a black screen.... any ideas?
[02:07] <matthias> sorry
[02:07] <arve> ahddm make sure you have SAMBA installed
[02:08] <Kalela> Anyone able to answer an Evolution question?  I'm using it with the ubuntu 8.10 install
[02:08] <BHSPitCSP> arve: heh, there was some web page made popular this week which tried to explain RAID configurations with pictures of silly water fountain setups.
[02:08] <ahddm> Yah i can see it in menu
[02:08] <arve> do link! I'm all for a laugh right now :)
[02:08] <LF|Irssi> Im trying to figure out what "primitive" editor to learn vi/vim, nano, Emacs ,,,,,,nano i pretty much got figured out
[02:08] <musikgoat> arve: he wants to connect to windows share, not share his ubuntu files, so smbclient is what he needs
[02:08] <BHSPitCSP> arve: I don't have a browser handy at the moment or I'd link you. It's somewhere in Digg's technology section.
[02:08] <amriedle> musikgoat: i like vim personally
[02:08] <luis_> i need help with ubuntu's networking
[02:08] <musikgoat> LF|Irssi: vi/vim is supreme
[02:08] <scunizi> LF|Irssi, don't forget pico and gedit
[02:08] <musikgoat> amriedle: me too
[02:08] <manolo> belkin is working ppl is working :)
[02:08] <Anonymous02> nano!
[02:08] <lyken2> scunizi: Your a geniouos!, thank you!
[02:09] <LF|Irssi> ok :)
[02:09] <scunizi> LF|Irssi, VI isn't primative just tough..
[02:09] <scunizi> lyken2, it's working?
[02:09] <Ruge> how do u easily change display resolution on ubuntu?
[02:09] <luis_> I can't connect to my ubuntu server via smb
[02:09] <maxbaldwin> scunizi: no pico. nano is the new pico.
[02:09] <lyken2> scunizi: yes, very well
[02:09] <arve> ahddm: vista / xp / * ?
[02:09] <musikgoat> LF|Irssi: ever seen the xkcd about vi?
[02:09] <ahddm> xp
[02:09] <codename> Is there Flash 10 for 64bit
[02:09] <LF|Irssi> no what's that musikgoat ?
[02:09] <lyken2> scunizi: do you still have that code so I can write it down?
[02:09] <luis_> when i go to browse for it doesn't show up
[02:09] <musikgoat> LF|Irssi: sorry offtopic,  but http://xkcd.com/378/
[02:09] <maxbaldwin> muskigoat: show me too.
[02:10] <arve> it -should- work out of the box afaik... what error are yo ugetting?
[02:10] <LF|Irssi> ok thanks guys
[02:10] <ahddm> arve: Im trying to connect now ill gve you error in a sec
[02:10] <matthias> hi guys is there a way to like in my case i double click on a song to play it and vlc starts but if i like to listen to another song and double clicks on a new song than have get 2 songs playing at the same time, a bit annoying ...
[02:10] <Ruge> Found it. How do I get Ubuntu to detect my graphics card?
[02:10] <scunizi> lyken2, that was one of the easiest fixes around.. something told me that would work because you had a different card in there and then removed it... you can see the code at the top of xorg.conf.. 1st paragraph.. type gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:10] <atarinox> Hi, Can anyone recommend an audio player where you can setup the media library similar to Rhythmbox? Something skinnable maybe, and with an EQ?
[02:10] <Kalela> Anyone here able to answer an evolution question - using with ubuntu 8.10 install
[02:10] <ahddm> arve: Sorry, could not display all the contents of "Windows shares on sako": DBus error org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken.
[02:11] <musikgoat> !ask | Kalela
[02:11] <scunizi> Kalela, you have to ask a question
[02:11] <luis_> I can't connect to shares using my ubuntu box i need help please...
[02:11] <amriedle> so anyone have any idea why it would go black screen on boot after loading
[02:11] <lyken2> scunizi: your a great help. I've got to go. Thanks for everything.
[02:11] <arve> ahddm: hmm that's odd. I assume you can ping the machine?
[02:11] <scunizi> lyken2, no problem.. enjouy
[02:11] <amriedle> currently i can manually start gdm and x and it all works fine in recovery mode .....
[02:11] <scunizi> *enjoy
[02:11] <matthias> luis_:  what do you mean share and with whom ?
[02:11] <ahddm> No idea how to honestly
[02:12] <Kalela> Evolution -- Ubuntu 8.10 install -- Is there a way to read messages which are forwarded as an attachment by a user using Outlook?
[02:12] <arve> ping <ip.of.target.machine> in terminal
[02:12] <luis_> It's a share on a ubuntu server that I have here I can connect to it fine using windows but under normal ubuntu can't connect
[02:12] <arve> e.g.    ping 192.168.0.5
[02:12] <scunizi> Kalela, you mean if you forward a message from Evo to someone using Outlook and the forward was an attachment?  Yes
[02:13] <Fenix|home> How well will installing Ubuntu to the drive through a VM work?
[02:13] <maxbaldwin> Does anyone know if there's an ubuntu with wmii as the standard desktop?
[02:13]  * Vandalism_dstryr begins by connecting his external USB HDD enclosure.
[02:13] <musikgoat> Fenix|home: you have the cdrom issue, and you have windows installed?
[02:13] <scunizi> Fenix|home, you mean that you want to install Ubuntu in a vm on a different system?  yes it works
[02:13] <musikgoat> Fenix|home: try !wubi
[02:13] <Vandalism_dstryr> O_o wrong channel
[02:13] <luddite> hi anyone here familiar with cpufreq?
[02:13] <ahddm> Arve: Pinging did not work Im gonna check if i entered correct ip
[02:14] <Fenix|home> musikgoat, I have a CDROM issue and no OS installed on the laptop
[02:14] <Kalela> Scunizi - No... My customer uses Outlook -- he forwarded me two messages within one -- they come as an attachement.  When I try to view them, they are .dat files -- pure text.  The problem is that one of the attachments is an Outlook message with JPGs attached to it.  So, it's all MIME encoded.
[02:14] <Fenix|home> I have a second machine with windows
[02:14] <matthias> luis_:  have installed any program to share yeat ???
[02:14] <ditch64> anybody know a good MAC IRC channel?
[02:14] <musikgoat> Fenix|home: hmm, you said you have an old laptop, does it have floppy?
[02:15] <csilk> Kalela, that is an annpyaing yet interesting problem, I'm afraid there is no easy way to sort that out
[02:15] <luis_> not really
[02:15] <csilk> *annoying
[02:15] <Fenix|home> musikgoat, nope... no floppy.  I have a USB floppy but it doesn't recognise it on boot
[02:15] <Kalela> cislk -- I'm game for hard, if I can fix it and it doesn't require me to train my customers.  lol
[02:16] <scunizi> Kalela, ah. I haven't experienced that.. you should ask in #evolution .. but it's on a different server that I can't remember the name of.
[02:16] <musikgoat> Kalela: that is a stupid outlook feature, adding emails as attachments to an email, i don't know if evolution would be able to transfer them to an inline email
[02:16] <Meshach> ditch64: #mac
[02:16] <matthias> luis_:  have you tried selecting the directory you like to share and right click on it and select from the menu "sharing options", try it an read forums about using it if not clear, it works for me at least ...
[02:16] <tenbytes> hey--any way to open microsoft access files in ubuntu? (mdb)
[02:16] <csilk> Kalela, the only "fix" I can think of is to tell the cusomter you don't use outlook so can't read the outlook file and get him to resend accordingly
[02:16] <luddite> i cant insert p4_clockmod - error is here -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/71675/
[02:17] <Kalela> ok... anyone know that server for #evolution -- to try there first?
[02:17] <Meshach> When I install JRE then It gets to the license agreement then it says ok and I press enter and it does nothing..
[02:17] <ahddm> arve: Is there a way I can check the other computers ip from my laptop the other computer is lagging to hell
[02:17] <Fenix|home> tenbytes, apt-get install mdbtools
[02:18] <Ruge> anyone know
[02:18] <Ruge> how i can set up m y gfx card on ubuntu?
[02:18] <Ruge> it only gives me a native 800x600 res
[02:18] <luis_> I have already have shared folder on the server that is running ubuntu but when I go to Places and then network it doesn't show up at and neither when I type in the Server name
[02:18] <jrib> Meshach: try space bar (tab to move around)
[02:18] <musikgoat> Fenix|home: does your laptops bios have the option for usb to be the first boot device?
[02:19] <scunizi> Ruge, gfx?  you mean geforce?  which model?
[02:19] <arve> ahddm: i guess the router should have a listing, unless you're using an ad-hoc netword (direct cable between pc's)
[02:19] <Ruge> its an ATi Rage Mobility card
[02:19] <Ruge> just wondering if there was a means of auto-detection
[02:19] <Fenix|home> musikgoat, no
[02:19] <Meshach> jrib: Thanks man, that worked .
[02:19] <Ruge> its an old card
[02:19] <buu> Well that's cool. I messed about with xorg.conf and so forth, then ran xrandr to put screens next to each other and it hardlocked X
[02:19] <marcccc> anybody having the bash prompt hang in ibex?
[02:19] <Fenix|home> musikgoat, I'm going to install ubuntu using vm using a physical disk instead of a virtual disk then pop it in the laptop
[02:19] <Fenix|home> that should do the trick
[02:19] <scunizi> Ruge, under System/Admin/Hardware drivers there should be an option to enable the restricted drivers.. after that you're on your own.
[02:20] <ahddm> arve: No ad-hoc ok I can ping it from its internet ip but cannot ping the 192.168.0.xxx ip
[02:20] <Meshach> jrib: It says unknown file type...
[02:20] <matthias> luis_:  do you have any restriction in the router or something like that ???
[02:20] <Ruge> scunizi: cheers mate
[02:20] <Meshach> jrib: I'm installing JDK
[02:20] <musikgoat> Fenix|home: hmm, that may be ok, good luck
[02:20] <Meshach> (Java)
[02:20] <Kalela> Thanks again...
[02:20] <arve> you are probably pinging the router.
[02:20] <scunizi> Ruge, good luck.. others in here should be able to guide you more.
[02:20] <luis_> no I don't have any restrictions on the router
[02:20] <Ruge> hmm, no luck, yeah someone gave me a piece of terminal code yesterday, but i forgot it
[02:21] <luis_> I can connect to the share through windows but not in ubuntu
[02:21] <scunizi> Ruge, this one?..   sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[02:21] <Guest79745> hi
[02:21] <Guest79745> all
[02:21] <Guest79745> pmmepls
[02:22] <buu> What, the entire room?
[02:22] <lianimator> need quick help: how can I recover a file I've JUST removed?
[02:22] <jrib> Meshach: are you using the repositories?
[02:22] <buu> scunizi: xrandr --left-of is hard locking X =[
[02:22] <jrib> !pm | Guest79745
[02:22] <matthias> luis_:  sorry i do not have a clue i could be guessing that a package is missing in nautilus but what package i do not know, just remember that have to do with smb and some other protocol if it helps ..., otherwise sorry ...
[02:22] <Meshach> jrib: What is that?
[02:22] <musikgoat> jrib: i had Meshach install sun-java6-jre,  and he needs to set the $JAVA_HOME env variable how
[02:22] <jrib> Meshach: like synaptic or Add/Remove
[02:23] <musikgoat> for his flex-something program
[02:23] <yagga> lianimator: recover
[02:23] <tenbytes> how do i open mdbtools after it finishes
[02:23] <jrib> musikgoat: but he says he wants the jdk?
[02:23] <Meshach> jrib: Nope, I'm using apt-get
[02:23] <luis_> Mathias, Thanks for trying to help me
[02:23] <musikgoat> jrib: ok, i'm just letting you know where i got him to earlier
[02:23] <luddite> i cant insert p4_clockmod - error is here -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/71675/
[02:23] <lianimator> yagga: thanks, I'll try that
[02:24] <jrib> Meshach: so what exactly gave you the error?  What was "it" in your sentence?  And what was the exact error?
[02:24] <matthias> luis_:  dont you worry sorry that i do not have the solution ...
[02:24] <lianimator> I did cd to /media/disk but I was still in ~/ then I removed some files from my home!
[02:24] <jrib> musikgoat: ah, I see.  Feel free to cut in :)
[02:24] <conscience> is there is a away of knowing what url are require when enter in some site?
[02:24] <conscience> i am not sure is that what i really mean
[02:24] <luis_> I look it up onlione
[02:24] <jrib> conscience: is there a way to make that question make sense?
[02:24] <ahddm> Hello I am having trouble connecting to a windows share from my laptop I can successfully ping it but cannot get a connection, when I got through network folder I get this error: Sorry, could not display all the contents of "Windows shares on sako": DBus error org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout exp
[02:25] <matthias> anybody that can help luis, he can not share files over the network ................
[02:25] <musikgoat> Meshach: as jrib said, what error do you get  (if its more than one line,  pastbin it)
[02:25] <lianimator> yagga: how exactly do I use recover to target my home?
[02:25] <Meshach> musikgoat, jrib, here is the error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/72170/
[02:25] <sherl0ck_> so what is good AUDIO CHAT CLIENT?
[02:25] <matthew> for what sherlock ?
[02:25] <yagga> lianimator: you have it installed
[02:25] <Ruge> scunizi: hmm tried that code n got an error:s
[02:25] <Meshach> sherl0ck: A new technology it's called a phone
[02:26] <musikgoat> Meshach: thats not an error
[02:26] <lianimator> yagga: I've installed it
[02:26] <Meshach> sherl0ck: jk
[02:26] <marcccc> does anybody know what to check for if the bash prompt hangs in gnome-terminal, virtual terminals, etc. Thanks
[02:26] <Awsoonn_> has anyone here gotten teh lego mindstorms RCX2.0 to work with NQC?
[02:26] <sherl0ck_> matthew, to voice chat
[02:26] <musikgoat> Meshach: thats just the information from installing jre
[02:26] <Anacranom> SIT/Q- i have been using ubuntu since 6.10, always fresh install next upgrade dist release, have never had as many issues as with 8.10-- i can load 8.04 and other than adding noacpi acpi=off to the kernel line everything works,,, 8.10-- nothing works= video, sound, nor wireless,,, What Gives?
[02:26] <Meshach> musikgoat: What does it mean? Is it installed now then?
[02:26] <matthew> gyachi is good for yahoo voice chat
[02:26] <scunizi> Ruge, you mean it complaining about overwriting something?  not to worry
[02:26] <matthew> I used to use it
[02:26] <ahddm> Hello I am having trouble connecting to a windows share from my laptop I can successfully ping it but cannot get a connection, when I got through network folder I get this error: Sorry, could not display all the contents of "Windows shares on sako": DBus error org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout exp
[02:26] <lolo> does anyone know of a good way to convert mp4 to to divx and keep the quality?
[02:26] <musikgoat> Meshach: yes, sun-java6-jre is installed,   what is your output of:  echo $JAVA_HOME
[02:27] <jrib> Anacranom: I'm not sure what answer you are expecting.  You haven't provided any relevant details
[02:27] <foxgoat> Hello, my firefox icon in taskbar is not firefox icon ... how to fix this... thanks
[02:27] <Meshach> musikgoat: Thanks for your help only been using ubuntu for about 5 days now.
[02:27] <matthias> luis_:  i got an idea but might lead 2 something but i am nut sure, needs some research ...
[02:27] <matthew> lolo avidemux is a nice program that will convert it
[02:27] <Anacranom> jrib, what?
[02:27] <musikgoat> Meshach: no worries
[02:27] <jrib> lolo3: tried ffmpeg maybe?
[02:27] <foxgoat> Firefox was installed manually and not through synaptic
[02:27] <matthew> get the gtk version
[02:27] <buu> Grahh.
[02:27] <buu> Stupid new xorg things.
[02:27] <matthew> they also have a qt version and command line version
[02:27] <jrib> Anacranom: ask a better question if you are here for support
[02:28] <Ruge> scunizi: yeah its saying "postinst warning: overwriting possible-customised configuration file"
[02:28] <Ruge> and thast it
[02:28] <lolo3> jrib" ffmpeg -i 1.mp4 1.avi does not look good
[02:28] <scunizi> Ruge, don't worry about it..
[02:28] <matthew> lolo avidemux is good
[02:28] <ahddm> Can anyone help lol? Is there another irc I can goto just for network help
[02:28] <Ruge> but then, thats all that it says, and im back in terminal
[02:28] <luis_> mathias , let me know when ready
[02:28] <conscience> the thing is i am trying to make some rules on firestarter becuase i put restrictive whitelist traffic, (cause i am always being hacked or something like that), and i would like to know some url to make rules, for exemple www.youtube.com i need this url plus others, and i am trying to understand how i can see what is the other urls. did i make any sence?
[02:28] <Anacranom> jrib, i put in the 8.04 disk, install fresh.. edit kernel line for noacpi,, all works... do the same with 8.10, Nothing works?
[02:28] <hdixon> Ok, can anyone help me? I upgraded to Ibex, and now the monitor says it cannot display anything. (Change resolution to something or other) I plugged in another monitor, and same thing. Is there a way to adjust the resolution, say in yaboot so I can actually see something? Or did I just hose the system by upgrading? BTW, I'm on a PPC.
[02:28] <musikgoat> ahddm: not if its a problem with ubuntu networking
[02:29] <jrib> Anacranom: right.  How can anyone help you with those details?  Just read your question and put yourself in someone else's shoes.
[02:29] <ahddm> musikgoat: Crud :(
[02:29] <symore_stuff> if i move a website from say root to my home folder do i then need to chown that site ?
[02:29] <Meshach> Is Flex and Flex Builder 2 different apps?
[02:29] <luddite> yes
[02:29] <musikgoat> symore_stuff: umm, the apache2 user needs to own it
[02:29] <matthias> luis_:  try looking at the loggs at /etc/log/..., inthere suppose to be a lots of loggs of the system and maybe you will get a clue ..., i have not used the logs myslef until recently but i hope you can find something there to start messing around ...
[02:29] <gunghomofo> can someone help me? I installed the nvidia version 96 driver to get my hardware acceleration to work, everything worked fine then I set my refresh rate to one my monitor didn't support and the screen went black, looked at xorg and the refresh and resoulution looks like it's set by the nvidia driver, reinstalling the driver doesn't reset it to the old refresh rate
[02:29] <Meshach> luddite: Thanks
[02:29] <ubento> Hello ... need help ... my firefox icon not showing in task bar (showing  a generic icon) how to troubleshoot this?
[02:29] <luddite> np
[02:30] <Guest79745> who day there
[02:30] <symore_stuff> hum
[02:30] <symore_stuff> how do i know that ?
[02:30] <luis_> ok
[02:30] <musikgoat> symore_stuff: ask in #apache
[02:30] <musikgoat> symore_stuff: but it should be listed in /etc/apache2/apache.conf i believe
[02:30] <wobblywu> yay, a new punisher movie
[02:31] <jrib> Anacranom: I guess I'm not being explicit enough.  You need to state exactly what is not working on intrepid and *how* it is not working.  And since this seems to be hardware related, you need to give the channel details about your hardware
[02:31] <wobblywu> the other one wasn't crappy enough
[02:31] <matthias> luis_:  one thinfg that comes in mind is that try a ping to the computer fthat you want to connect to and see what happens, it the server does not respond on ping than ythe communication is blocked entirely or by port ....
[02:31] <conscience> the thing is i am trying to make some rules on firestarter becuase i put restrictive whitelist traffic, (cause i am always being hacked or something like that), and i would like to know some url to make rules, for exemple www.youtube.com i need this url plus others, and i am trying to understand how i can see what is the other urls. did i make any sence?
[02:31] <matthew> lol wobbly
[02:31] <musikgoat> symore_stuff: sorry apache2.conf
[02:31] <symore_stuff> yes i did see it there just getting some strange permissions root still owns most the files
[02:31] <ahddm> Hello I am having trouble connecting to a windows share from my laptop I can successfully ping it but cannot get a connection, when I got through network folder I get this error: Sorry, could not display all the contents of "Windows shares on sako": DBus error org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout exp
[02:31] <symore_stuff> there is also a file sites enabled
[02:31] <Doonz> hey this is offtopic but i figure since i run ubuntu at home and debian on a server mebbe someon could help me out
[02:31] <Doonz> Hey Can someone help me with gproftpd. When i try starting it up after installing through synaptic it gives me this error. COuld not launchmenu item. Details: Failed to execute child process "su-to-root"(No such file or directory)
[02:32] <Meshach> can I install Flex via apt-get?
[02:32] <Meshach> not flex builder just flex
[02:32] <conscience> thanks anyway
[02:32] <uberneen> symore if you're in ubuntu it's probably www-data:www-data so chmod -r /var/www (whatever your site root is) www-data:www-data
[02:32] <jrib> Doonz: install whatever package provides su-to-root
[02:32] <jrib> Doonz: "menu"
[02:32] <matthew> meshach try it the worst thing that could happen is failure to find package ;)
[02:32] <uberneen> chown rather
[02:32] <Meshach> matthew, ok.
[02:32] <irpapabear> hello all :D
[02:32] <matthew> you can look in synaptic too
[02:33] <musikgoat> symore_stuff: be careful moving directories that hold your websites, as apache2 needs to be told where they are,  i'd ask for help in #apache
[02:33] <symore_stuff> noted
[02:33] <symore_stuff> i should know better
[02:33] <Meshach> matthew, it found flex m4, is that adobe flex?
[02:33] <Doonz> ok
[02:33] <gunghomofo> is there a key combo to toggle the refresh rates?
[02:33] <marcccc> Anybody know of a bug where the bash prompt hangs in 8.10
[02:33] <matthew> idk
[02:33] <chris_> #django
[02:34] <dmsuperman> I can't play videos on a large monitor. I play the video fine, but when I try to fullscreen it or scale it up, once it reaches a certain point the application crashes. Here's an error from VLC "X Error of failed request:  BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)" and I get similar errors in other applications. I have 256MB of VRAM on that video card, and 4GB total system memory. I can go fullscreen on a 1280x1024 monitor, but once I re
[02:34] <jrib> marcccc: is this on a fresh install with no modifications?  ie this happened on your first boot?
[02:34] <Meshach> marcccc: I've had it happen to me a couple times, restarting the computer usually helps.
[02:34] <matthew> meshach what are you looking for exactly ?
[02:34] <Meshach> matthew: I'm looking for Adobe Flex for ubuntu 8.10 not flex builder
[02:35] <matthew> I don't even see it in synaptic in 8.04
[02:35] <uberneen> I have a raid 5 with three 1tb disks totalling around 1.9tb.  One of the disks appears to be faulty, but I can't get the raid started without it.  If I get it up and booting my detail says 'active, degraded, resyncing' but it's been on 99% for days.
[02:35] <matthew> i don't use 8.10
[02:35] <Anacranom> jrib, ok, so you dont know why 8.10 dropped the support it had in 8.04... as i stated before, Video, Sound, Wireless...... Video= 600x400, audio= non-existent, wireless does not show available networks, nor allow connecting to a manually configured network, however, 8.04 has NO issues with any of this. That is the question.
[02:36] <ahddm> Need help connecting to windows share
[02:36] <Meshach> Well, I guess I'll just try this flex m4 thing.
[02:36] <matthew> is there details for the package mesh ?
[02:36] <Meshach> yep
[02:36] <genii> !info mesh
[02:36] <genii> Hm
[02:36] <yeryry> Anacranom: I'm having similar problems.. wish I never "upgraded" now..
[02:36] <Meshach> lol
[02:37] <jrib> Anacranom: "the support".  You insist on being vague for some reason.  If you are interested in regressions, then check bugs.ubuntu.com.  If you are here for troubleshooting help then ask a detailed question with specifics like I explained before
[02:37] <Meshach> Well, there is package info here.
[02:37] <marcccc> Meshach: Did that, still hangs - very weird.  Runs up to 50% cpu in the process manager.
[02:37] <Meshach> marcccc: Very peculiar...
[02:37] <musikgoat> Meshach: i don't think there is a package for the flex sdk
[02:37] <tj83> Jrib, I have to admin, i was forced back to 8.04 from 8.10 and its vague because it pertains to so many users abroad with different hardware setups
[02:37] <VastHappyDude> i need some help with extracting .rar files
[02:37] <tj83> admit*
[02:37] <uberneen> I'm under the impression that I can mark that drive as faulty and remove it so I can put in a good spare, but the raid won't start in the mean time.  Ubuntu 8.04 server, any ideas?
[02:37] <musikgoat> Meshach: quoted from Adobe's site: While Flex applications can be built using only the free Flex SDK, developers can use Adobe® Flex® Builder™ 3 software to dramatically accelerate development.
[02:38] <Meshach> musikgoat: I am trying to install the latest version of wine and it says I need flex
[02:38] <VastHappyDude> i try to extract a non password proteced file and it asks for one anyway
[02:38] <matthew> mesh you can get the linux installer on adobes site
[02:38] <musikgoat> Meshach: now we're getting somewhere,  why are you trying to install the latest version of wine, instead of the version in the ubuntu repos?
[02:39] <jrib> Anacranom: you should check the release notes in addition to bugs.ubuntu.com if it's regression info you are interested in
[02:39] <matthew> I would run that
[02:39] <jrib> !notes > Anacranom
[02:39] <matthew> make sure you have all dependencies
[02:39] <buskmann> can enyone help me with my slow torrent downloads? port is open, but still downloading at about 2-4kbs. 150kbs in windows. im using transmission. (nOOb in linux)
[02:39] <Meshach> musikgoat: Because I am trying to install ies4linux
[02:39] <musikgoat> VastHappyDude: that can happen if the compressed file is not complete
[02:39] <VastHappyDude> ok
[02:39] <musikgoat> VastHappyDude: or corrupt
[02:39] <VastHappyDude> ill check for a problem with it
[02:39] <lolren> hy, anyone knows how to install xmms in 8.10?
[02:39] <jrib> !xmms | lolren
[02:39] <marcccc> Meshach: It's pretty useless as it is.. Probably just reinstall.  Just trying to see if it's a well known bug.  Thanks
[02:39] <musikgoat> Meshach: hmm,  and ies4linux cant be intalled with the version in the ubuntu repos?
[02:40] <oOarthurOo> Hi... I can't get my mp3 player to be recognized in Rhythmbox
[02:40] <tj83> !notes > tj83
[02:40] <Anacranom> jrib, i have given as much "support" here as i have received, and more, so drop the ,,, nvm, you're not worth ban
[02:40] <matthew> meshach you can download this    http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flexbuilder_linux.html
[02:40] <jrib> Anacranom: so I'm asking you to give information so that people can actually help you, and you think I'm giving you an attitude.  That's great.
[02:40] <Meshach> musikgoat: ugh... I installed it and it gave an error with some nonsense text and so I thought I would reinstall it...
[02:40] <gunghomofo> can someone tell me if there is a way to change the refresh rate in xwindows with a key combo or something? can ctrl-alt-f2, just can't see xwindows till I can change refresh rate back
[02:40] <CoJaBo> What file system would be best to use on a RAID 5? Any recommendations?
[02:40] <Meshach> musikgoat: ies4linux I mean.
[02:40] <matthew>  once you download it do chmoc +x filename then run it sudo ./filename
[02:41] <matthew> chmod*
[02:41] <Meshach> matthew,  I did
[02:41] <matthew> ?
[02:41] <matthew> it didn't work ?
[02:41] <Ishmali> conscience:  try  #ubuntu-br
[02:42] <musikgoat> Meshach: sounds like you are going down a rabbit hole...   start with installing ies4linux, whatever that is, and then ask for help with you get an error, and we can try to help
[02:42] <Meshach> matthew I got it to successfully install but then when I try to run IE6 or IE7 beta then it gives this box with a bunch of nonsense characters repeatedly and I can't access any webpages.
[02:42] <matthew> did you have eclipse installed ?
[02:42] <Meshach> musikgoat: Should Install it with apt-get?
[02:42] <musikgoat> !file ies4linux
[02:43] <Meshach> heheh
[02:43] <matthew> ?Eclipse
[02:43] <Meshach> musikgoagt: http://www.tatanka.com.br/
[02:43] <musikgoat> Meshach: are you on intrepid or hardy?
[02:43] <Meshach> musikgoat: Intrepid
[02:44] <matthias> how can i dissable multitasking on my music players
[02:44] <uberneen> Is anyone here familiar with software raids or a channel where it would be better to ask?
[02:44] <matthew> mesh do you have eclipse
[02:45] <Meshach> matthew: No I don't know what that is
[02:46] <Meshach> !name | matthew
[02:46] <matthew> it says on the adobe site you need it for flex
[02:46] <Meshach> oops
[02:46] <Meshach> !file eclipse
[02:46] <matthew> sudo apt-get install eclipse
[02:47] <matthew> it is a java ide mesh
[02:47] <musikgoat> Meshach: wait, if your initial reason for all this is just to run ie on ubuntu, don't install eclipse, and i don't think you need flex either
[02:47] <Quintin> Is the alternate install disc still needed to configure sw raid0 on install?
[02:47] <Pici> !who
[02:47] <Meshach> matthew: woah! eclipse is over 500MB's
[02:47] <Meshach> musikgoat: Ok
[02:47] <matthew> musik it is need for it
[02:48] <matthew> mesh mine says 426 kb
[02:48] <BlueEagle> Ok, so I've got a domain name and I want people to be able to send emails to username@domain.com. What do I need to achieve this? I do not need the abillity to send mail from username@domain.com as everybody gets a smtp server from their ISP.
[02:48] <Meshach> !who | matthew
[02:48] <bas23gy> hi all
[02:48] <Meshach> bas23gy: Hello
[02:48] <bas23gy> hello
[02:49] <matthew> maybe it needs other files to work idk
[02:49] <rdw200169_> yeah, matthew, if you just start typing their name, the person you're talking to, and smashing the tab key, irc will show you a list of the names that start with what you typed, try it out!
[02:49] <Meshach> !who | matthew
[02:49] <Meshach> matthew: ;)
[02:50] <matthew> rdw200169_, like this ?
[02:50] <matthew> cool
[02:50] <rdw200169_> matthew: notice how your name gets highlighted, yes!
[02:50] <matthew> lol
[02:50] <uberneen> BlueEagle: Your domain needs an MX record that points to your server and your server would need the appropriate software for recieving mail.
[02:50] <rdw200169_> matthew: my xchat highlights the message b/c it's got my sn in it
[02:50] <matthew> I'm new to irc
[02:50] <rdw200169_> matthew: makes tracking a convo much easier in this busy place
[02:50] <BlueEagle> uberneen: Well the question should have been: Which software do I need. :)
[02:50] <matthew> rdw200169_, thanks
[02:50] <yangxlong02> oo
[02:51] <uberneen> BlueEagle: I use postfix and dovecot.
[02:51] <rdw200169_> matthew: that's why you see people's names mentioned all the time
[02:51] <musikgoat> Meshach: ok, i would start with http://www.winehq.org/site/download-deb
[02:51] <rdw200169_> musikgoat: have you considered letting google handle your mail?
[02:51] <BlueEagle> uberneen: I've had a looksee at the postfix configuration and frankly it scared me. :/ Where can I find a list of alternatives which are easier to configure and doesn't leave me with an open relay?
[02:52] <matthew> rdw200169_, I think I asked someone how to do this a few days ago I probably didn't ask right or something
[02:52] <musikgoat> rdw200169_: me specifically?  i do
[02:52] <musikgoat> rdw200169_: why?
[02:52] <rdw200169_> musikgoat: they will let you use your domain to handle mail, i.e. randy@randywallace.com is handled by google for me using google apps
[02:52] <BlueEagle> uberneen: ie. I need some way to set a username and password when people want to send mail using that smtp server.
[02:52] <hdixon> is there anyone who can help me with my ppc video output problem? anybody?
[02:52] <musikgoat> rdw200169_: i'm aware of that, thanks :-)
[02:52] <BlueEagle> !anyone | hdixon
[02:52] <rdw200169_> musikgoat: keeps you from having to set up postfix and that nightmare....
[02:53] <musikgoat> !offtopic | rdw200169_
[02:53] <hdixon> i already asked it
[02:53] <Meshach> musikgoat: Ok. So just follow the instructions on there?
[02:53] <uberneen> BlueEagle: Postfix is pretty easy, especially next to Sendmail.  If you want a good configuration frontend, try installing webmin.
[02:53] <rdw200169_> musikgoat: why was that off topic?
[02:53] <genii> !webmin
[02:53] <musikgoat> Meshach: yes
[02:53] <BlueEagle> uberneen: Well I couldn't make heads or tails of /etc/postfix/main.cf tbh.
[02:53] <matthew> this is a development channel ?
[02:53] <rdw200169_> musikgoat: i'lll remember not to try to help you
[02:53] <matthew> is 8.10 beta ?
[02:53] <musikgoat> rdw200169_: not really sure how google apps is related to ubuntu support
[02:53] <BlueEagle> !ibex | matthew
[02:53] <genii> matthew: No. and No
[02:53] <rdw200169_> matthew: no, that's ubuntu-dev
[02:54] <Cpudan80> Anyone with VMWare 2.0 ... Is there something we can use besides the web inerface?
[02:54] <musikgoat> rdw200169_: not that i'm trying to be rude or anything
[02:54] <hdixon> Here's my question: I upgraded to Ibex, and now the video output won't display
[02:54] <Cpudan80> *interface
[02:54] <matthew> oh
[02:54] <Cpudan80> I really dont like the all webified gui
[02:54] <matthew> I stick with the lts releases
[02:54] <mkartic> 'No package 'xorg-server' found' <-- how do i fix this? :-\
[02:54] <tedfflamp> 'xorg-xserver'
[02:54] <jrib> mkartic: you want xserver-xorg maybe?
[02:54] <musikgoat> mkartic: do you mean xserver-xorg?
[02:54] <tedfflamp> kk well perhaps so)
[02:54] <star> i don't know why Chinese input can't install?
[02:54] <mkartic> thanks!
[02:55] <rdw200169_> musikgoat: usually, a convo, for me, ends up in a pm anyway, regardless, i find that this is the place most people go for linux generic help, and sometimes, they just want helping doing something specific, which sometimes can be handled outside linux much easier, i.e. google apps or something
[02:55] <Falstaf> I have gotten kdenlive to make this file how do I actually convert it to a avi or mp4 format
[02:55] <zutme> Does anyone else have trouble setting a static ip in intrepid? mine always goes back to dhcp after a reboot
[02:55] <bazhang> star, install and configure scim
[02:55] <matthew> chinese input ?
[02:55] <Fenix|home> musikgoat, using a VM and installing to a physical drive worked like a charm
[02:55] <rdw200169_> musikgoat: and in your situation, postfix is a lot for someone new to ubuntu
[02:55] <musikgoat> Fenix|home: thats awesome!
[02:55] <star> yes
[02:55] <Fenix|home> it's a little slow, but I can live with it
[02:55] <Fenix|home> should have put server on :)
[02:56] <hdixon> ubottu, what I meant was is there a smaller channel where I can ask my question, or a place to get in line, or take anumber? I asked my question about ten minutes ago. It is just too confusing with 1319 people in one chat room!
[02:56] <musikgoat> rdw200169_: i think you may have me confused with someone else, as i haven't talked about mail until you brought it up ;-)
[02:56] <bazhang> star also install the FF plugin quick locale switcher
[02:56] <Fenix|home> ubottu, bot snack
[02:56] <bazhang> rdw200169_, its BlueEagle not musikgoat
[02:56] <ghang> hi , I wan to download fonts , and I type command : sudo apt-get install ttf-* ; and there list out alots of fonts , but there is broken package, how do I install with ignore broken package ? -f or am   is usedless
[02:56] <Fenix|home> ubottu, you don't know what you're missing out on
[02:56] <tedfflamp> too intelligent)
[02:56] <musikgoat> !botsnack
[02:56] <hdixon> ubottu, why are you here?
[02:56] <hdixon> hee hee
[02:56] <Flannel> hdixon: Best way to get help is to repeat your question every 20-30 minutes, eventually someone will come around who knows how to help.
[02:56] <matthew> lol
[02:56] <mkartic> lol
[02:57] <Flannel> ubottu: tell hdixon about yourself
[02:57] <uberneen> BlueEagle:  The stock install of postfix shouldn't relay by default.  You really should just need to tell it what domain to receive for.
[02:57] <hdixon> ok, thanks Flannel. That was what I needed to know
[02:57] <rdw200169_> musikgoat: oh wait, hah, i had you confused with uberneen at 21:51, sorry
[02:57] <Flannel> hdixon: in the meantime, you can try looking in the forums, etc.  (ubuntuforums.org)
[02:57] <rdw200169_> musikgoat: where my statement would have been relevant...
[02:57] <matthew> !bitchx
[02:57] <uberneen> BlueEagle: Webmin makes management a lot easier.  I haven't had any trouble with it in 8.04.
[02:57] <bazhang> matthew, /msg ubottu
[02:57] <musikgoat> rdw200169_: hehe, i was very confused, hence our conversation,  carry on :-D
[02:58] <matthew> ?
[02:58] <hdixon> Ok, I'll check there again. I couldn't find anything before.
[02:58] <mkartic> how do i find a list of running processes [to kill it]? [amarok seems to get lost wen i try starting it on gnome once in a while ]
[02:58] <Flannel> matthew: bitchX isn't in the repos anymore because it essentially became abandonware with some major security holes.  try irssi instead.
[02:58] <bazhang> matthew, dont use the !triggers ; /msg ubottu
[02:58] <matthew> flannel i know it is old just seeing if it was still around
[02:59] <star> i'd kike install fcitx in Ubuntu 8.10,but it can't run,can anyone tell me how to do it?
[02:59] <matthew> bazhang why do you care seriously ?
[02:59] <Flannel> matthew: Keeps the signal to noise ratio high.
[02:59] <matthew> An honest answer please
[02:59] <bazhang> matthew, it adds a lot of noise to a busy channel thats why
[02:59] <nite_johnboy> Hi - What the command to run in Terminal that will Give Size of Hard Drive - How much is being used and how much is free space ? ?
[02:59] <fryguy> nite_johnboy: 'df'
[02:59] <Flannel> nite_johnboy: df -h
[02:59] <bas23gy> ubuntu
[02:59] <ugarit> I have a new server with 4 750GB hard drives and 4 GB of RAM and I want to use RAID 0,1,5, or 10 with LVM.  How should I partition the hds?
[02:59] <bas23gy> marry
[03:00] <nite_johnboy> Flannel: Will write it down this time - Thanks much.
[03:00] <zutme> Is there any way to keep a static ip in intrepid? It reverts to dhcp after every reboot for me
[03:00] <LF|Irssi> you will love irssi when you type /lastlog <search word goes here>  OMG it's to die for :)   *me hides from the !ot LF|Irssi command*
[03:00] <Fenix|home> ugarit, that's an interesting question... many people have different philosophies with partitioning
[03:00] <matthew> cool thanks bazhang
[03:00] <hellspawn> help! can't fix user permissions on a mounted drive.
[03:00] <matthew> bazhang, thanks****
[03:01] <fryguy> hellspawn: be more specific
[03:01] <jrib> hellspawn: what filesystem?
[03:01] <BlueEagle> uberneen: I think I'm going to try xmail. Thanks for the pointers tho. :)
[03:01] <musikgoat> !raid | ugarit  Start with reading here:
[03:01] <Fenix|home> ugarit, if you're going to make one large disk then my philosophy is make one large partition, otherwise you'll have people tell you that you should use a partition for / a partition for /home (your largest partition) one for /var and another for /tmp
[03:01] <nite_johnboy> Flannel: The " -h " outputs into Human Readable form correct ?
[03:01] <hellspawn> /dev/sdb1       /media/home            vfat    rw,user,nomand    "fstab line"
[03:01] <jrib> LF|Irssi: you know about #ubuntu-offtopic right?  You should join :)
[03:01] <Flannel> nite_johnboy: correct
[03:01] <uberneen> Is anyone here experienced with mdadm and raid5?  I'm running ubuntu server 8.04 and I have 3x 1tb drives making a ~2tb array.  One drive is faulty.  The array will come online and I can read it, but it says my state is "active, degraded, resyncing" but I've been at 99% rebuild status for days.
[03:01] <nite_johnboy> Flannel: Cool thx
[03:01] <LF|Irssi> hehe ok fine :)
[03:01] <musikgoat> LF|Irssi: its fun in there :-)
[03:01] <fryguy> nite_johnboy: -h and -H present it in 2 different human readable levels, see the manpage for details
[03:02] <hellspawn> fryguy: for some reason chmod commands don't take effect!
[03:02] <jrib> !vfat > hellspawn
[03:02] <matthias> anyone that can help with bluetooth problems ...
[03:02] <matthew> hellspawn add your user to the usb group
[03:02] <fryguy> hellspawn: there are no permissions on a fat filesystem (nothing applicable to what you are doing at least)
[03:02] <sb118> hey i just got ubuntu intrepid on my dell xps 1530. The NVIDIA driver is installed, but i still see circles and lines on pictures and backgrounds.  How do i fix this?
[03:02] <matthew> fat like fat 32 people still use that ?
[03:03] <nite_johnboy> fryguy: yes I forgot there is difference in Linux using capitals compared to windows command line - thanks for reminder....
[03:03] <fryguy> hellspawn: the permissions are set at mount time, you can mount as a different user by specifying uid and gid in the mount options, among other solutions
[03:03] <star> i'd kike install fcitx(Chinese input ) in Ubuntu 8.10,but it can't run,can anyone tell me how to do it?
[03:03] <hellspawn> fryguy: I know .. root and regular user cannot write files to partition
[03:03] <hellspawn> or chmod an existing folder to change permissions
[03:04] <Daeshim> Hostname: kimbo - OS: Linux 2.6.27.4-dynashell-grsec/i686 - Distro: Debian lenny/sid - CPU: Pentium III (Coppermine) (996.763 MHz) - Processes: 115 - Uptime: 9d 8h 47m - Users: 5 - Load Average: 0.00 - Memory Usage: 90.57MB/503.29MB (17.99%) - Disk Usage: 2.09GB/35.51GB (5.88%)
[03:04] <fryguy> hellspawn: like i said, there are no applicable permissions to change, chmod is for changing permissions on unix-style filesystems
[03:04] <d> how do i use usplash
[03:04] <hellspawn> ohh geez
[03:04] <Guest29338> how do i use usplash
[03:04] <musikgoat> hellspawn: paste the output of mount
[03:04] <musikgoat> *pastebin
[03:04] <bazhang> star sudo apt-get install fcitx
[03:04] <yeryry> ok so removing the nvidia device from xorg.conf and keeping the nv one that was there in there fixed my resolution.. now I just need to try to fix madwifi..
[03:04] <Daxx> hi all, im trying to find a good disto of ubuntu, but not bloated with apps and such anyone know any?
[03:05] <independente> qual a função desse canal
[03:05] <matthew> fryguy, there is dos2unix and unix2dos
[03:05] <manolo> matthew fat 32 support windows & linux
[03:05] <hellspawn> /dev/sda1 on / type ext3 (rw,relatime,errors=remount-ro)
[03:05] <hellspawn> proc on /proc type proc (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
[03:05] <hellspawn> varrun on /var/run type tmpfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,mode=0755)
[03:05] <hellspawn> varlock on /var/lock type tmpfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,mode=1777)
[03:05] <hellspawn> udev on /dev type tmpfs (rw,mode=0755)
[03:05] <FloodBot1> hellspawn: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:05] <hellspawn> devshm on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw)
[03:05] <Flannel> !br | independente
[03:05] <manolo> n ps3
[03:05] <fryguy> matthew: those are for converting line endings, it has nothing to do with permissions
[03:05] <Daxx> hi all, im trying to find a good disto of ubuntu, but not bloated with apps and such anyone know any? i have ubuntu hardy
[03:05] <matthew> oh
[03:05] <fryguy> Daxx: debian
[03:05] <uberneen> Daxx: I like to get the xubuntu alternate cd and choose the text only installation.  From there you can apt-get anything you like.
[03:06] <Daxx> is debian pretty barebones?
[03:06] <hellspawn> whoops
[03:06] <bazhang> !minimal | Daxx only 9mb
[03:06] <fryguy> Daxx: yes
[03:06] <hellspawn> http://paste.ubuntu.com/72187/
[03:06] <nite_johnboy> fryguy: Do you know why the " -h " syntax reports a smaller size than the " -H " syntax ?
[03:06] <Flannel> Daxx: Debian, and Ubuntu, can be configured to be as heavy, or as light, as you'd like them to be.
[03:06] <musikgoat> hellspawn: now paste /etc/fstab
[03:06] <fryguy> nite_johnboy: the manpage tells you the details, -h calculates using 1024 for a kilobyte, -H uses 1000 for a kilobyte
[03:07] <independente> algum canal de programação em java
[03:07] <scientes> my samba server isnt showing up in the browsing but it works if i address it?
[03:07] <scientes> how do i make it show up?
[03:07] <bazhang> independente, english here please
[03:07] <ugarit> musikgoat Fenix|home should I make identical /boot and swap on each haddrive?
[03:07] <nite_johnboy> fryguy: Ah - that's it - will be more pro-active and read Man pg. 1st - would answered what I asked .....
[03:07] <Flannel> independente: ##java
[03:08] <hellspawn> http://paste.ubuntu.com/72190/
[03:08] <Lamo> Having problems with my x86_64 install of Ibex freezing randomly on me. Worried it might be my 32GB solid state drive. Can someone point me in the direction of the valid log files for before i had to restart? thanks.
[03:08] <independente> ##java
[03:08] <scientes> Lamo, try dmesg
[03:08] <luisp797> hello
[03:08] <genii> Lamo: /var/log/messages    also dmesg
[03:08] <Flannel> independente: /join ##java
[03:09] <luisp797> i need help connecting to a share in ubuntu
[03:09] <musikgoat> hellspawn: you can try adding defaults to the options for /dev/sdb1
[03:09] <bas23gy> hello bob...
[03:09] <liye> hey guys, i have a HP p1008 printer sharing on network, i want to use it via samba. however, it seems that 8.04's hplip doesn't support p1008 yet
[03:09] <bas23gy> hello bob
[03:10] <hellspawn> musikgoat: thanks. will see what happens
[03:10] <bazhang> bas23gy, do you have an ubuntu support question
[03:10] <luisp797> i need help connecting to a share
[03:10] <musikgoat> wouldn't nomand option be a problem as well?
[03:10] <fryguy> luisp797: until you ask a question, nobody can help you
[03:10] <musikgoat> guess its too late
[03:10] <Daxx> is fedora bloated?
[03:10] <matthew> omg I leave the pc for 5 mins and the kid takes over and plays pjam
[03:11] <musikgoat> Daxx: ask in #fedory
[03:11] <musikgoat> *fedora
[03:11] <independente> digitei o comando e não dá certo
[03:11] <Dulak> Daxx: it is a little bloated but it's not horrible
[03:11] <bazhang> independente, /join #ubuntu-br   /join ##java
[03:11] <yeryry> hmm.. there isn't a network config GUI thing now?
[03:11] <fryguy> yeryry: NetworkManager
[03:12] <fryguy> yeryry: specifically nmapplet
[03:12] <sb118> im getting circles and lines in pictures.  I think its a graphics driver problem.  the driver is installed.  how do i fix this?
[03:12] <luisp797> I have two shares one is for guest access and the other is private when i go to my private I type in my password and it won't let me in..
[03:12] <fryguy> luisp797: are you specifying your domain or workgroup correctly?
[03:12] <luisp797> workgroup
[03:13] <donald> Liye:  If you have the HP Laserjet P1008, go to http://openprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=HP-LaserJet_P1008 for PPD support in CUPS for this printer.
[03:13] <Lamo> scientes, genii, thanks
[03:13] <fryguy> luisp797: are you specifying it correctly?
[03:13] <musikgoat> luisp797: some windows workgroups are by default mshome
[03:14] <luisp797> yes for some reason the server won't authenticate my username and password ubuntu is the server with the share
[03:15] <fryguy> luisp797: so what username are you using
[03:15] <javagamer> How come I can't get the latest release of HedgeWars through synaptic?
[03:15] <luisp797> my login name I use to login to the ubuntu server
[03:15] <fryguy> luisp797: and what is the workgroup
[03:16] <luisp797> WORKGROUP
[03:16] <fryguy> luisp797: use WORKGROUP\luisp797 instead of just luisp797 when you log in from windows
[03:16] <exmachina> how do i mount a securom protected iso in linux? It seems to recognize the mounted setup.exe as data file and not MS executable
[03:16] <fryguy> luisp797: also if you are connecting from vista, you might need to look up how to disable NTLMv2 or not require it.  I'm unsure if the version of samba that is in ubuntu is affected by that or not
[03:16] <donald> Liye:  Did you see my post?
[03:17] <lizsac> hi
[03:18] <manolo> lizsac hi
[03:18] <yeryry> fryguy: it seems to be saying its already running, but I don't see it...
[03:18] <lizsac> hey what's the utility that controls the video to output to tv?
[03:18] <fryguy> exmachina: if you can identify the contents of the disc, then it is successfully mount
[03:18] <lizsac> i was using it before but forgot what it is now
[03:18] <donald> Liye:  If you have the HP Laserjet P1008, go to http://openprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=HP-LaserJet_P1008 for PPD support in CUPS for this printer.
[03:18] <fryguy> yeryry: should be an icon in the top gnome-panel, over on the right hand side
[03:18] <Anonymous02> Anyone know of an online dictionary with an API?
[03:18] <donald> Liye:  If you have the HP Laserjet P1008, go to http://openprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=HP-LaserJet_P1008 for PPD support in CUPS for this printer.
[03:18] <exmachina> fryguy, the problem is, wine thinks my .exe is a data file
[03:18] <fryguy> exmachina: so run it from a command line
[03:19] <lizsac> it's the same control panel for multiple monitors
[03:19] <lizsac> tvout etc
[03:19] <exmachina> fryguy, what do you mean? I did wine setup.exe and it tells me it's a bad EXE
[03:19]  * yeryry on xubuntu.. its not showing anywhere
[03:19] <luisp797> fryguy- I am connecting from another ubuntu machine
[03:19] <fryguy> luisp797: so then refer to my previous statement
[03:20] <fryguy> exmachina: no idea
[03:20] <fryguy> yeryry: this channel is for ubuntu, join #xubuntu
[03:20] <shiki9> hello
[03:20] <yeryry> ooh
[03:21] <lizsac> hey what's the utility that controls the video to output to tv?
[03:22] <luisp797> i still can't connect as workgroup\luis
[03:22] <Sinani201> Hi everyone!
[03:22] <luisp797> I can connect to the guest share
[03:23] <luisp797> any ideas?
[03:23] <fryguy> luisp797: ni
[03:23] <fryguy> no
[03:24] <Quintin> is the alternate install disc still needed to configure software raid??
[03:24] <fryguy> Quintin: yes
[03:24] <Quintin> ok
[03:24] <fryguy> as far as i know
[03:24] <Quintin> that's fricking stupid :|
[03:24] <fryguy> Quintin: why
[03:25] <Agapito> hi
[03:25] <Quintin> fryguy: that should be obvious
[03:25] <fryguy> Quintin: it's not
[03:25] <WebcamWonder> Does anyone know of a way to transfer all the tags from F-Spot to digiKam?
[03:25] <Quintin> fryguy: it is.  I won't debate it with you.
[03:26] <javagamer> hi
[03:26] <scunizi> WebcamWonder, that's one of the problems with Fspot.. it maintains it's own database.. if you tag pics in Mapivi they are imbedded.
[03:26] <sb118> my firefox isn't opening.  I tried downloading seamonkey and konqueror.  They didn't open either.  I have no access to google to search for a solution. someone please help
[03:27] <fryguy> sb118: open up a terminal and type "firefox" and explain what happens
[03:27] <scunizi> sb118, install elinks.. it's a terminal based browser.. works good
[03:27] <musikgoat> sb118: are they not opening, or are webpages not loading?
[03:27] <laobing> #ubuuntu-cn
[03:28] <arkaoss> why would I suddenly not be able to login to synaptic with my root password?
[03:28] <fryguy> arkaoss: password changed, got removed from the admin group, that's about the only 2 reasons
[03:28] <sb118> fryguy: nothing. it just goes to the next line.
[03:28] <arkaoss> i can still change things in a bash prompt.
[03:28] <genii> arkaoss: PErhaps because root is not supposed to have a password, and you're intended to use the regular password your user with sudo/admin rights has
[03:29] <sb118> musikgoat: they don't open
[03:29] <fryguy> sb118: and gives you a prompt again?
[03:29] <sb118> fryguy: yeah
[03:29] <WebcamWonder> scunizi, What about digiKam? If I were to retag them from digiKam, will they maintain their tags in the file itself?
[03:29] <fryguy> sb118: run 'ps aux | grep firefox'
[03:29] <arkaoss> genii : thats what I get for switching back & forth from CentOS to Ubuntu
[03:29] <scunizi> WebcamWonder, I don't know.. never used it
[03:30] <lizsac> there's like a hidden utility somewhere it's not in my menu that controls video output to multiple monitors
[03:30] <Daxx> ok im downloading ubuntustudio
[03:30] <lizsac> i've just forgotten the name to it
[03:30] <Daxx> do i have to butn to a cd
[03:30] <sb118> fryguy: i got this "sb118     6665  0.0  0.0   3236   800 pts/0    R+   22:30   0:00 grep firefox"
[03:30] <Daxx> burn*
[03:30] <fryguy> sb118: and nothing else?
[03:30] <sb118> fryguy: no thats it
[03:30] <fryguy> sb118: 'mv ~/.mozilla ~/.mozilla.BAK' and run firefox again
[03:32] <jimdb> hi, does anyone know how to re-enable the super key?  independently of compiz (with it turned of), I still can't use the super key.  is there an entry in the gconf-editor that will allow me to turn it back on?
[03:32] <sb118> fryguy: "mv: cannot stat `/home/sb118/.mozilla': No such file or directory"
[03:32] <fryguy> sb118: uh, maybe it's firefox, 'mv ~/.firefox ~/.firefox.BAK'
[03:32] <fryguy> jimdb: use xmodmap
[03:32] <jimdb> fryguy:  what is that?
[03:32] <Swilky> hey Hi guys just wondering if someone would help me I have an access point setup to use a raduis server  but the auth always fails this is the debug http://rafb.net/p/n9KaXp63.html
[03:33] <fryguy> jimdb: a utility for changing modifier keys
[03:33] <sb118> fryguy: same thing
[03:33] <jimdb> it isn't listed in the ubuntu repositories
[03:33] <ubuntu1024> I installed the kernel update this week and my 3945 wireless broke
[03:33] <fryguy> jimdb: it's already installed, it's a core component of x11
[03:33] <arkaoss> Swilky are you in CT?
[03:33] <fryguy> ubuntu1024: so reinstall the driver for it
[03:34] <Swilky> CT?
[03:34] <ubuntu1024> it worked out of the box for 8.04
[03:34] <ubuntu1024> it no longer works out of the box.
[03:34] <arkaoss> NM my bad.. Connecticutt US..
[03:34] <fryguy> sb118: 'ls -la ~' find the directory that has firefox, and move it out of the way temporarily
[03:34] <arkaoss> i got a friend tring to setup Radius on his router.
[03:34] <fryguy> ubuntu1024: right, you upgraded your kernel so you need to upgrade the driver
[03:34] <ubuntu1024> yes, so I upgraded to 8.10 to try and solve that
[03:34] <Swilky> im in perth australia
[03:35] <musikgoat> heh
[03:35] <ubuntu1024> but the situation persists
[03:35] <lizsac> ok thanks
[03:35] <solarion> is there a reason that the fonts cache gets regenerated for every font instead of at the end of the install?
[03:35] <ubuntu1024> I tried installing the backport packages but that didn't work
[03:35] <sb118> fryguy: i found ".mozilla.bak" but i don't know what you mean move it out the way
[03:35] <arkaoss> I knew A guy in perth too, but never heard from him online.
[03:35] <blackflag_> i got a newb question if anyone can answer plz--  do i need to install the ati drivers to get 1360x768 res?
[03:36] <fryguy> sb118: it's already been moved
[03:36] <fryguy> blackflag_: you need some driver for your video card yes.
[03:36] <Swilky> so can anyone see why its not working in the debug? http://rafb.net/p/n9KaXp63.html
[03:36] <sb118> fryguy: oh okay
[03:36] <ubuntu1024> also, installing ndiswrapper and using the windows intel drivers made it unbootable.  that was bad
[03:36] <jimdb> fryguy: i have a super key on the keyboard and it used to work.  this program looks like it is used to define the key sequences that relate to the super key.
[03:36] <fryguy> sb118: running firefox now?
[03:36] <genpfault> I have an eeepc 1000, the one with the 8GB SSD and 32GB flash; I want to have my /home on the 8GB and union a directory on the flash on top of it.  Should I use unionfs or aufs?
[03:36] <fryguy> jimdb: right
[03:36] <blackflag_> =/  i've been having trouble getting any sort of driver to work.
[03:37] <sb118> fryguy: nope
[03:37] <fryguy> jimdb: if you run xmodmap, is super or hyper keys listed?
[03:37] <fryguy> sb118: "sudo firefox"
[03:37] <lifestream> Does anyone know of a dock (like awn) that I can put on the LEFT or RIGHT side of the screen? (not cairo  *barfs guts*)
[03:37] <sb118> fryguy: that worked thanks
[03:37] <fryguy> sb118: nonono
[03:37] <jimdb> fryguy:  it says mod4 Super_L (0xce), Hyper_l (0xcf)
[03:38] <sb118> fryguy: what?
[03:38] <fryguy> sb118: that's not teh way to do this.  that working means that there is some setting file in your home directory that is causing firefox to break. pastebin the output of ls -la
[03:38] <uberneen> sb118: Try firefox -a -P
[03:38] <fryguy> jimdb: so x11 is correctly identifying and using the super key, simply assign keybindings to it
[03:39] <liye> donald: hey, sorry for delayed reply. so can i set it via Printing tool provided by the distro?
[03:39] <ubuntu1024> so how exactly do I get the 3945 wireless driver to work on 8.10?  The liveCD doesn't have working wireless either
[03:39] <ghazban> hullo
[03:39] <matthew> I think I smoked entirely to much marijuana
[03:40] <musikgoat> matthew: tmi?
[03:40] <musikgoat> heh
[03:40] <javagamer> matthew:...
[03:40] <matthew> musikgoat, I'm still here to help
[03:40] <arkaoss> wwhat would be easier to edit an initrd file to get it to boot off an ext3 parition instead of an lvm. or just make a LVM
[03:40] <bloodrock> good smoke some more
[03:40] <lifestream> What happened to Gnome-look? Did they forget to renew their domain or something? It is no longer ;___;
[03:40] <matthew> musikgoat, your still here lol
[03:41] <sb118> fryguy: how do you do that? sorry im new to all this.
[03:41] <musikgoat> matthew, yes, i have no life :-)
[03:41] <ghazban> how do i make a program autostart when ubuntu starts?
[03:41] <fryguy> sb118: paste.ubuntu.com, paste the output of ls -la there
[03:41] <Quintin> ghazban: put it in init scripts
[03:41] <matthew> musikgoat, this is why i love ubuntu the people are great
[03:41] <matthew> !offtopic | me
[03:41] <fryguy> lifestream: gnome-look is fine, and dns is valid, and the website is still there
[03:41] <matthew> There before anyone else could
[03:42] <lifestream> fryguy,  weird, i get a parked page
[03:42] <fryguy> lifestream: it's .org, not .com
[03:42] <gkasinath> afternoon everyone!
[03:42] <lifestream> fryguy,  I know
[03:42] <bazaab> Afternoon!
[03:42] <bazaab> well, evening here :)
[03:42] <scunizi> Evening!
[03:42] <sb118> fryguy: okay done
[03:42] <gkasinath> how are you doing bazaab?
[03:42] <fryguy> sb118: give us the url
[03:43] <sb118> fryguy: http://paste.ubuntu.com/72196/
[03:43] <bazaab> Well.  Finally made the full time switch to Linux a few days ago :)
[03:43] <Anacranom> fryguy, if that shows no result, try a cd /home and then ls -l and look at the perms, ran into similar last week
[03:43] <musikgoat> !yay | bazaab
[03:43] <gkasinath> anyone here have ubuntu 8.10 on Dell Dimension 5150?
[03:43] <matthias> bluetooth help
[03:44] <donald> Liye:  If you have the HP Laserjet P1008, go to http://openprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=HP-LaserJet_P1008 for PPD support in CUPS for this printer.
[03:44]  * gkasinath envies bazaab. I m dying to do the switch. and just cant.. :( 
[03:44] <uberneen> sb118: try sudo mv ~/.mozilla ~/.mozilla.bak
[03:44] <matthias> bluetooth headset connection to skype ...
[03:44] <matthew> matthias, why do you want blue teeth ?
[03:44] <drog> sudo mv * .
[03:44] <fryguy> sb118: 'sudo rm ~/.mozilla; sudo mv ~/.mozilla.bak ~/.mozilla.bak.bak'
[03:44] <fryguy> err
[03:44] <bazaab> Well gkasinath.. I only made the switch once I got steam and city of heros working :)
[03:45] <fryguy> sb118: 'sudo rm -rf /.mozilla; sudo mv ~/.mozilla.bak ~/.mozilla.bak.bak'
[03:45] <bazaab> I already used open source and alt desktops on my windows box
[03:45] <gkasinath> lol bazaab!
[03:45] <drog> I hope wine runs diablo 3, cause I'll be playing it for around 7 years no doubt
[03:45] <scunizi> bazaab, I'm curious .. what other desktops are you using on windows?
[03:45] <fryguy> eh, i just run windows now
[03:45] <gkasinath> I need help figuring out the sound card problem with ubuntu 8.10 on Dell Dimension 5150
[03:46] <fryguy> !ask | gkasinath
[03:46] <drog> gkasinath, #ubuntu
[03:46] <matthew> drog it is made bye the same people who make wow and that runs great in wine
[03:46] <bazaab> I was using a version of Black Box and ...<thinking>...
[03:46] <matthew> Blizzard
[03:46] <matthew> And yes lich kind works in wine
[03:46] <matthew> king*
[03:46] <bazaab> omg.  I have had a brain fart.
[03:46] <gkasinath> drog, I am in that room, arent I?
[03:47] <fryguy> gkasinath: you are
[03:47] <thomasite> Hello. My laptop is running on 8.10. Do you recommend upgrading to OpenOffice 3.0? Thanks!
[03:47] <matthias> matthew:  why bluetooth ???, make life simpler no cables .... do you know how to setup and troubleshoot bluetooth headset ...
[03:47] <gkasinath> !ask
[03:47] <fryguy> thomasite: run whatever version is available in the repositories
[03:47] <scunizi> bazaab, np.. at close to 50 I have many
[03:47] <bazaab> :)
[03:47] <sb118> fryguy: i get "rm: cannot remove `/home/sb118/.mozilla': No such file or directory" and "vm: cannot stat `/home/sb118/.mozilla.bak': No such file or directory" when i run the second one
[03:47] <bazaab> I turn 30 this year!  I am catching up!
[03:47] <drog> gkasinath, seriously, #ubuntu
[03:48] <gkasinath> !ask | gkasinath ubuntu 8.10 sound card dell dimension 5150
[03:48] <matthew> matthias,  I don't have bluetooth I thought about getting a hook up for my laptop so I can hook up my phone
[03:48] <matthias> matthew:  your phone will probably work great, dont you worry ...
[03:48] <gkasinath> I sure am doing something wrong here.. I cant work out what ubottu and drog are indicating as wrong though.. :(
[03:48] <bazaab> Oh!  and LiteStep!
[03:48] <fryguy> sb118: paste the output of ls -la again
[03:48] <thomasite> fryguy, How do I know the OpenOffice version that's available in the repositories?
[03:48] <fryguy> gkasinath: just ask your question
[03:49] <matthew> I found a program that can use bluetooth and your phone to text on your pc
[03:49] <scunizi> bazaab, get out of the chair once in a while and do something.. otherwise you'll end up creeking... NOT me!
[03:49] <bazhang> thomasite, its 2.4
[03:49] <thomasite> Wait. There's a column for the latest version there.
[03:49] <gkasinath> okie, fryguy here goes the question again.
[03:49] <fryguy> thomasite: use apt-cache show, or synaptic to examine packages available
[03:49] <matthias> anyone that can help with bluetooth headset hokkup ???
[03:49] <bazaab> I have a 22month old,... trust me I am out of the chair plenty keeping up with him :)
[03:49] <gkasinath> ubuntu 8.10 and dell dimension 5150 sound card problem - help
[03:49] <ubuntu1024> I upgraded to 8.10 and my intel 3945 wireless doesn't work.  It also doesn't work with the 8.10 liveCD, but it worked with 8.04 before the latest kernel update.
[03:49] <fryguy> gkasinath: ... what is the problem with your soundcard. When we say "ask a question" we mean "ask a question"
[03:50] <gkasinath> ah ok.
[03:50] <thomasite> THanks. I've been using 2.4 for months now. Now that OO 3.0 is available but is not yet in the repositories, do you think it's not advisable to upgrade to 3.0?
[03:50] <matthias> ubuntu1024:  broadcom wirless card ...
[03:50] <bazhang> ubuntu1024, open a terminal and type ifconfig; how many entries
[03:50] <gkasinath> No sound from sound card after upgrade to 8.04 and 8.10
[03:50] <ubuntu1024> um
[03:50] <fryguy> thomasite: probably not
[03:50] <ubuntu1024> not broadcom, definitely intel 3945abg
[03:51] <bazhang> matthias, not broadcom intel
[03:51] <thomasite> fryguy & bazhang: thanks a lot. I have to content myself with the 2.4 then.
[03:51] <scunizi> bazaab, teenagers are what create grey hair
[03:51] <matthew> can a standard wireless connect to bluetooth network ?
[03:51] <bazhang> ubuntu1024, how many entries
[03:51] <ubuntu1024> 2 entries, lo and eth0 wired ethernet
[03:51] <thomasite> Another question: Anyone who uses R (the statistical software) here, please help me. Thanks.
[03:51] <drog> gkasinath, just messing with you, what card? (lspci)
[03:51] <fryguy> matthew: no
[03:51] <matthew> fryguy, thanks
[03:51] <test34> Can I have davfs2 automount webdav resources using an xml "file.davmount" ?
[03:51] <bazaab> scunizi: thanks... but I have a few years thank goodness!
[03:51] <matthias> ubuntu1024:  check what module uses the wireless in my case with broadcom i needed to change module=ssb to module=ndiswrapper and everything okey ...
[03:51] <matthew> fryguy, so I need like a usb bluetooth thingy
[03:51] <ubuntu1024> um
[03:52] <ubuntu1024> ndiswrapper made it unbootable
[03:52] <ubuntu1024> I had to delete the windows driver to get it to boot again
[03:52] <sb118> fryguy: http://paste.ubuntu.com/72200/
[03:52] <gkasinath> drog, you had me there! Here is the lspci output : Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family)
[03:52] <gkasinath> I looked up the help on ubuntuforums for this.. tried the advises all in vain
[03:53] <devin> hey guys
[03:53] <devin> xubuntu rules
[03:53] <fryguy> sb118: and if you type 'sudo rm -rf ~/.mozilla' you get an error?
[03:53] <drog> gkasinath, compiled and installed the latest alsa using the proper instructions for the chip on the alsa wiki??
[03:53] <exmachina> devin you're a fag
[03:53] <devin> hey that's mean
[03:53] <drog> !language
[03:53] <devin> but don't ban him
[03:53] <drog> dawg is obvy not a cigarette
[03:53] <sb118> fryguy: no it just goes the next line and gives me a prompt
[03:53] <genii> fryguy: If you use sudo with relative ~ you are deleting /root/.mozilla    and not /home/somename/.mozilla
[03:53] <ubuntu1024> hey
[03:54] <ubuntu1024> I tried sudo modprobe iwl3945 and something happened
[03:54] <CapTech> devin: I totally agree.  xubuntu FTW.
[03:54] <devin> thx guys
[03:54] <ubuntu1024> that is, it gave no error
[03:54] <manunderground> hey would Ubuntu run on a netbook? running a 1.6 ghz atom processor
[03:54] <ubuntu1024> and then iwconfig actually showed something
[03:54] <gkasinath> drog, I vaguely remember doing that. I m sorry I tried so many things, I cant remember now. Lemme go back to the wiki and jog my memory
[03:54] <fryguy> manunderground: sure
[03:54] <musikgoat> ubuntu1024: usually  something happens
[03:54] <exmachina> gentoo for the win
[03:54] <bazhang> manunderground, yes
[03:54] <devin> i'm running xubuntu on my acer aspire one
[03:54] <krish> how can I install Wordpress on ubuntu server 8.04 edition and configure the server?
[03:54] <devin> just got it!
[03:54] <ubuntu1024> ok it's trying to connect now
[03:54] <bazhang> exmachina, please remain ontopic
[03:54] <ubuntu1024> hmm
[03:54] <fryguy> genii: sudo does not exhibit that behavior for me
[03:54] <manunderground> bazhang, fryguy: great, well, super slowly?
[03:54] <fryguy> manunderground: no
[03:54] <devin> haha exmachina just helped me install xubuntu
[03:55] <Bsims> Silly question can I use debbootstrap to move from ubuntu back to mother debian or am I better off doing a clean reinstall
[03:55] <bazhang> manunderground, you may wish to use lxde instead of gnome though
[03:55] <devin> ya use xubuntu
[03:55] <test34> manunderground: it works on my 800mhz but it's not great
[03:55] <lifestream> .... help? I just changed my DNS settings on Network Manager (yes, they are correct) and now none of my firefox pages open. But I can talk here just fine!...
[03:55] <bazhang> Bsims, reinstall
[03:55] <Bsims> bazhang: I like wmaker for a light desktop but I am oldfashioned
[03:55] <lifestream> Does Network Manager just plain suck?
[03:55] <krish>  how can I install Wordpress on ubuntu server 8.04 edition and configure the server?
[03:55] <bazaab> Bsims: I would reinstall...
[03:55] <fryguy> lifestream: so change the DNS settings back
[03:55] <musikgoat> lifestream: close and reopen firefox?
[03:55] <matthew> lifestream, why do you say that
[03:56] <lifestream> fryguy,  that'd be nice, assuming I knew what my ISP ones were
[03:56] <matthew> lifestream, better than knetworkmanager :P
[03:56] <test34> krish: you need php module for your webserver
[03:56] <ubuntu1024> hey
[03:56] <musikgoat> lifestream: use 4.2.2.1
[03:56] <lifestream> musikgoat,  tried it, thanks anyway ;____; lol
[03:56] <ubuntu1024> I fixed my wireless by typing modprobe iwl3945
[03:56] <mneptok> lifestream: they should be set by DHCP
[03:56] <Bsims> Yeah thats what I was thinking but I hate to reinstall things though I should be able to just dump my /etc/ back in from backup
[03:56] <bazhang> ubuntu1024,  good news
[03:56] <ubuntu1024> now how do I make it so that will automagically happen on startup?
[03:56] <krish> test I have php installed on my server
[03:56] <fryguy> lifestream: dhcp will provide you with dns entries, if your isp does not use dhcp or pppoe then you were provided with DNS servers to use in documentation
[03:56] <lifestream> mneptok,  yes i know but i dont want to use my ISP dns because they... suck!? and they got those "helpful" search pages. so i changed to opendns which has always worked for me
[03:56] <manunderground> test34, bazhang, fryguy: well comparing the atom processor to say Pentium M or Centrino 1.6 how would things settle?
[03:56] <matthew> what is that 1024 ?
[03:56] <genii> fryguy: After testing I agree it works as you say
[03:57] <mneptok> lifestream: do you use a router?
[03:57] <lifestream> musikgoat, yes id love to upgrade NM or even ditch it for WICD but i can't go online, so...
[03:57] <grncdr> I've got a funny situation. I removed a bunch of old kernel images manually, forgot I'd done that, and then tried to remove them and they're associated modules with apt
[03:57] <matthew> ubuntu1024, you can make a script
[03:57] <hosstest> Does anyone currently use Ventrillo over Wine?
[03:57] <ubuntu1024> I want to make it so I don't have to type sudo modprobe iwl3945          to get my wireless working
[03:57] <test34> manunderground: I'm not sure but I'm sure there is plenty of benchmarks on the web
[03:57] <Flannel> grncdr: linux-image-*
[03:57] <fryguy> genii: sudo doesn't run a login shell by default, so it will not change the current environment variables, so HOME for example is unchanged
[03:57] <ubuntu1024> where can I throw that in?
[03:57] <Flannel> grncdr: is the package
[03:57] <mneptok> fryguy: PPPoE does not handle DNS or IP. it's solely for authentication.
[03:57] <lifestream> mneptok,  yes i do use a router, but opendns settings always worked for me. however i used to work wicd. now im using NM and those settings are not working.
[03:57] <grncdr> Flannel: that matches all the image packages
[03:57] <Bsims> grncdr: and now there nothing for apt to remove but the entry in its DB is there correct?
[03:57] <matthias> anybody knows how to connect an btheadset
[03:58] <fryguy> mneptok: right, but implementations used by ISPs are almost always accompanied by a DNS providing mechanism
[03:58] <Flannel> grncdr: correct.  You want to remove the older version numbers.
[03:58] <grncdr> Bsims: yes exactly
[03:58] <manunderground> thanks a lot everyone
[03:58] <mneptok> lifestream: hardcode the OpenDNS servers into the router. the router is doing your DHCP.
[03:58] <bazhang> matthias, /msg ubottu bluetooth
[03:58] <lifestream> mneptok,  actually I.... don't think that NM is even remembering the settings?! I just went back and it shows the ISP DNS ....
[03:58] <fryguy> mneptok: which is why i made that small clarification for the small chance that he was using PPPoE and was attempting to regain original DNS IPs
[03:58] <mneptok> fryguy: that mechanism is DHCP
[03:58] <tethtibis_> odd.
[03:58] <grncdr> Bsims: and  beyond this, I currently have no kernel installed
[03:58] <matthias> bazhang:  ?
[03:58] <test34> krish: just download wordpress and unzip in your htdocs folder.. and follow instructions.. its very simple
[03:59] <grncdr> Bsims: /msg?
[03:59] <Bsims> Sure grncdr
[03:59] <bazhang> !bluetooth > matthias
[03:59] <Flannel> !info wordpress | krish, test34
[03:59] <krish> ok test
[03:59] <lifestream> mneptok,  It's not my router sadly. But why mess up my neighbors router (i pay 5 bucks per month )  if Wicd worked just fine... I  just did a fresh install and figured "hey, NM should do just fine" so I went to change the DNS and now, bam, nothing x-D!
[03:59] <fryguy> mneptok: yes, but if we had just said DHCP, and he said "oh, i use PPPoE" we would have had to clarify it as an additional statement, I bunched it into a single sentence. you chose to expand it out to multiple lines of chat. I was just trying to be concise is still mostly correct, and correct especially in the context as given.
[03:59] <Flannel> krish: Easier to just get it from the package manager.  You'll be sure to get updates that way.
[03:59] <krish> test34
[03:59] <gkasinath> mneptok, what is the actual URL for openDNS? is it www.opendns.org?
[03:59] <Carefree> hello
[03:59] <Dulak> I wouldn't use the wordpress package, get the latest version and update it whenever there is an update
[03:59] <bazhang> krish, please dont test here
[03:59] <Bsims> grncdr: want me to save you some time?... open a terminal and cd /var/cache/apt/archives/ and sudo dpkg -i the kernel debs
[04:00] <krish> ok Flannel
[04:00] <mneptok> gkasinath: URL? or DNS server addresses>
[04:00] <mneptok> ?
[04:00] <lifestream> mneptok,  the funny thing is , even though NM shows the ISP dns now, my firefox pages still wont load. No, it's not working offline :P
[04:00] <krish> Flannel can you pls elloborate on what u said
[04:00] <Carefree> Is there anything I can do to make wine work better?
[04:00] <Carefree> on ubuntu?
[04:00] <Flannel> krish: install the "wordpress" package, then you'll have wordpress, and it'll get upgrades.
[04:00] <Sinani201> Hi people
[04:00] <krish> ok
[04:00] <sb118> fryguy: any ideas?
[04:00] <Dulak> the package upgrades are crazy slow compared to the regular wordpress
[04:00] <mneptok> lifestream: pick one. use DHCP, or use static. this mix and match is not going to be pleasant.
[04:01] <fryguy> sb118: 'mv ~/.mozilla.bak ~/.mozilla.bak.bak'
[04:01] <gkasinath> mneptok - uumm the dns server address(es) if it makes any sense
[04:01] <lifestream> mneptok,  i've used opendns for months now...  with no problem whatsoever... *doubletake*
[04:02] <Sinani201> Does anyone know why Frets on Fire lags so much?
[04:02] <bazhang> Sinani201, are you using compiz
[04:02] <fryguy> Sinani201: 3d card configured incorrectly
[04:02] <gkasinath> drog, I havent done what was written in : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto, is that what you advised to do?
[04:02] <Sinani201> Well, how do I configure it correctly?
[04:03] <Carefree> any ideas on how to make wine work better?
[04:03] <l3d> is there a nvidia settings app to change the settings of the card in linux?
[04:03] <Sinani201> I don't know
[04:03] <Sinani201> Lemme check
[04:03] <fryguy> Sinani201: identify the correct driver for your card, install any kernel level drivers necessary for it, ensure it's being used in your xorg configuration (/etc/X11/xorg.conf)
[04:03] <scunizi> l3d, yes.. install nvidia-settings and also read the nvidia linux forum on the nvidia site
[04:03] <fryguy> Carefree: what's wrong with how it works now
[04:04] <Carefree> fryguy: It just doesnt start some applications
[04:04] <l3d> ok thanks
[04:04] <xcerca> has anybody installed ubuntu on a psp , any luck ?  sorry i asked this same question an hour ago when i was setting up my wireless gateway to connect my psp and screwed it up , but everything works now....    i've seen fedora installed on a ps3 but anybody know about ubuntu on a psp ?
[04:04] <Carefree> actually, it doesnt start almost anything.
[04:04] <jimmy_> hello!
[04:04] <bazhang> Carefree, check the appdb and ask in #winehq
[04:04] <bazhang> !appdb | Carefree
[04:04] <drog> gkasinath, dawg, if all else fails, http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Module-hda-intel
[04:04] <fryguy> Carefree: there's a database of applications how well the work over at winehq, there are also some provided workarounds for some situations, I suggest checking that out.  Also, join #winehq and ask some wine specific questions there.
[04:04] <Sinani201> OK, I'm installing nvidia-settings
[04:05] <mneptok> lifestream: so then what changed?
[04:05] <sb118> fryguy: "mv: cannot stat `/home/sb118/.mozilla.bak': No such file or directory"
[04:05] <xcerca> Carefree what seems to be the problem , sorry i just joined...
[04:05] <gkasinath> drog - thanks for that mate. I'll give them a shot and see how it goes.
[04:05] <Sinani201> So, what do I do in the nvidia settings?
[04:05] <Carefree> oh, just it won't open installers and stuff
[04:05] <fryguy> sb118: are you running these commands repeatedly or something? The command only needs to be run once when i tell you.
[04:06] <Carefree> i'm trying to install itunes, but the installer won't even open or anything
[04:06] <Carefree> no errors
[04:06] <Carefree> nothing at all
[04:06] <Anacranom> Carefree, i have many successes with wine, 1- what version u use, 2 check here http://appdb.winehq.org/appbrowse.php?catId=0
[04:06] <Sinani201> iTunes isn't authorized on Linux
[04:06] <lifestream> mneptok,  I don't know? I haven't used NM much. I always install wicd instead. But I did a fresh install and since it was connecting to my wireless fine, I figured I would stick with it
[04:06] <fryguy> Carefree: itunes is in the appdb, go take a look at it
[04:06] <xcerca> i tunes...   why not use amarok or rythm box,  they can update an ipod also...
[04:06] <bazhang> Carefree, iTunes via wine works but is very very slow
[04:07]  * mneptok blinks
[04:07] <Sinani201> Ummm...
[04:07] <Sinani201> so
[04:07] <mneptok> why iTunes?
[04:07] <bazhang> indeed
[04:07] <oOarthurOo> how else would you access the itunes store
[04:07] <lifestream> iTunes is always very slow, even on Win/Mac :P
[04:07] <Sinani201> How do I fix my nvidia card so that it works with FoF?
[04:07] <mneptok> oOarthurOo: why would you *want* to?
[04:07] <Exsequor> Hi everyone I have just used cat to dump /dev/sda1 to a file. Can anyone explain how to extract the contents from that file?
[04:07] <stargazer> hey guys, i need a terminal to start up when i run a launcher so that it can run wine right after, any ideas ?
[04:07] <derrek_> connect #dellmini
[04:07] <xcerca> Carefree , I've had success with wine also...   but what do you want itunes for ?
[04:07] <bazhang> lifestream, this is glacially slow compared
[04:07] <jason__> can anyone here answer a quick python question for me ?
[04:07] <Sinani201> Python is evil
[04:07] <fryguy> Exsequor: what do you want to extract it to?
[04:08] <oOarthurOo> mneptok: There is a show my dad likes called take home chef, but they only make the video podcasts of recipes available via the itunes store.
[04:08] <Sinani201> Python wants to mind-control you
[04:08] <lifestream> jason__,  how about #ubuntu-programming? (i think thats the correct channel anwyay)
[04:08] <bazhang> Sinani201, please thats not helpful
[04:08] <jason__> ok ill go right there thank you
[04:08] <mneptok> oOarthurOo: why would you patronize a store that tells you what OSes you can and cannot run, and what music player you must run?
[04:08] <Sinani201> Ummm...
[04:08] <Sinani201> So
[04:08] <Sinani201> How do I configure my nvidia graphics card so it works with FoF?
[04:08] <fryguy> mneptok: is the philosophy of itunes on topic?
[04:08] <stargazer> hey guys, i need a terminal to start up when i run a launcher so that it can run wine right after, any ideas ?
[04:08] <Sinani201> Someone please help me.
[04:08] <Exsequor> fryguy, a folder on a partition
[04:09] <oOarthurOo> mneptok: I've written a letter to the discovery channel, but I'm no idealist or purist so until they change their ways my dad wants to watch the podcasts and so I installed itunes via wine.
[04:09] <xcerca> Sinani201 does it not work now ?
[04:09] <bazhang> Sinani201, install nvidia-settings, also disable compiz
[04:09] <mneptok> fryguy: take a giant step back out of my face, please
[04:09] <fryguy> mneptok: ? i'm just asking a question
[04:09] <lifestream> x-D
[04:09] <Sinani201> There is no compiz to disable
[04:09] <xcerca> bazhang , why do you need to disable compiz for that ?
[04:09] <musikgoat> oOarthurOo: podcasts can be listened to without itunes :-)
[04:09] <bazhang> oOarthurOo, you can get the podcasts without itunes
[04:10] <musikgoat> heh
[04:10] <musikgoat> netcasts if you will
[04:10] <fryguy> Exsequor: what you grabbed is an entire block device. There is no easy way to extract individual files from it.  Especially if the device is larger than the amount of ram you have on your machine
[04:10] <Sinani201> Someone help me, and I'll stop annoying all of you
[04:10] <bazhang> Sinani201, did you install and run nvidia-settings
[04:10] <Sinani201> Yes
[04:10] <Sinani201> I have it opened right now
[04:11] <mneptok> Sinani201: you'll stop annoying us with or without help. holding our patience for ransom is a decidely flawed strategy.
[04:11] <oOarthurOo> musikgoat: bazhang I accept your challenge. If you can show me how to get these podcasts without installing itunes I will go upstairs and remove it from my parents computer immediately http://tlc.discovery.com/fansites/takehomechef/podcasts.html
[04:11] <bazhang> Sinani201, what card and what driver and how installed
[04:11] <xcerca> make sure you do sudo nvidia-settings , so that you can save the changes
[04:11] <fryguy> Exsequor: excuse me, a partition of a block device, but the other part of the statement is still true
[04:11]  * Bsims greatly prefers amarok to itunes 
[04:11] <Bsims> stargazer: should be in the save sessions
[04:11] <Exsequor> fryguy, the file is just over 24mb
[04:11] <Bsims> stargazer: Hrm add a ; xterm after the command in launcher?
[04:11] <Sinani201> Umm
[04:11] <Bsims> what is FoF?
[04:11] <Sinani201> Lemme check my graphics card
[04:11] <FloodBot1> Bsims: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:11] <Sinani201> FoF is Frets on Fire
[04:11] <fryguy> Exsequor: /dev/sda1 ?
[04:11] <Sinani201> It's like Guitar Hero
[04:12] <Exsequor> fryguy, yes sda1 is only 24mb
[04:12] <ohmygod_> bazhang, can you help me? I've upgrade, but the problem is still there.
[04:12] <fryguy> Exsequor: i'm unsure what's going on or what exactly you are trying to do then. I am unable to help you
[04:12] <Sinani201> Anywho, I'll go look at my graphic card settings
[04:12] <bazhang> ohmygod_, on your eeepc?
[04:12] <Sinani201> Hold on
[04:12] <Exsequor> fryguy, I am trying to grab the contents of a mystery partition on my dell mini
[04:12] <ohmygod_> bazhang, Yes
[04:12] <musikgoat> oOarthurOo: awe, they only publish through itunes, thats dumb, its soo easy to publish podcasts through rss
[04:12] <fryguy> Exsequor: you should use mount
[04:12] <Bsims> Oh dumb question Sinani201 are you running the non-free nvidia drivers?
[04:12] <bazhang> ohmygod_, what is the problem are you are having; please be clear, all on one line thanks
[04:12] <oOarthurOo> musikgoat: Yup. It is beyond stupid. And I've written them to make that sentiment known.
[04:12] <Exsequor> fryguy, I did mount it and the contents have weird mime types or something
[04:13] <xcerca> Sinani201 run the command in a terminal " sudo nvidia-settings"   make whatever changes you need, then apply. then try running your game again
[04:13] <irpapabear> hey ya fryguy
[04:13] <Exsequor> fryguy, there are also a lot of repeat file names
[04:13] <stargazer> Bsims: xterm isn't popping up.
[04:13] <fryguy> Exsequor: well there you go.  catting it isn't going to give better results than mounting
[04:13] <musikgoat> oOarthurOo: if only apple would allow free podcasts to be downloeaded with out itunes...
[04:13] <l3d> ok here is a question for you I have two lcd's and both set to a res of 1028x768 @75htz now one is a 19inch wide and the other is a 17 inch normal one I was wondering why when I go to play a game say just for argument sake extreme tux racer the 17 inch plays with no issue but the 19 always give me input out of range. I am wondering why when is the same resolution?
[04:13] <Bsims> stargazer: Heh, was a guess, it works when launched from bash in a command-line
[04:13]  * oOarthurOo concurs with musikgoat
[04:14] <fryguy> l3d: set your LCDs to 60hz and see if that solves the problem
[04:14] <Exsequor> fryguy, Catting got everything off the partition whereas copying from the mounted partition renames all the duplicate filenames
[04:14] <Sinani201> It says I'm not using the X driver
[04:14] <ohmygod_> bazhang,when I login desktop by a normal account, the whole desktop and toolbar will be not responding. but if I login by 'root', that's all ok.
[04:14] <fryguy> Exsequor: catting gets it as a byte stream, without any usable filesystem information
[04:14] <bazhang> ohmygod_, you are using the ubuntu kernel or a 3rd party one
[04:15] <Exsequor> fryguy, I want that partition in its entirety
[04:15] <Hilikus> is there a way to reinstall my sound software? drivers etc?
[04:15] <ohmygod_> bazhang, ubuntu eee kernel.
[04:15] <Bsims> Exsequor: may I suggest dd instead?
[04:15] <fryguy> Exsequor: so then cat it, or use dd
[04:15] <bazhang> ohmygod_, the array org one?
[04:15] <co_eMo> jjjj
[04:15] <ohmygod_> bazhang, that's in the apt source.
[04:15] <Exsequor> Great idea!
[04:15] <gkasinath> FusionHDTV Hybrid and MythTV tuning problem
[04:15] <fryguy> Exsequor: if you want to actually DO something with the partition, you need to mount it
[04:15] <frybye> hi - am trying to use VLC to record video + sound from a logitech communicate stx webcam. re: sound am not sure what device- entry to make in vlc - pse see http://paste.ubuntu.com/72206/
[04:15] <l3d> nope
[04:15] <Exsequor> What is the syntax?
[04:15] <Sinani201> Ummm
[04:15] <Exsequor> I used dd to backup a tape years ago
[04:15] <fryguy> Exsequor: dd if=/dev/sda1 of=/tmp/whatever bs=1024  is an example, read the manpage
[04:16] <Sinani201> What changes should I make in nvidia-settings?
[04:16] <devin> make-mutex --- has anyone got this error b4?
[04:16] <ohmygod_> bazhang, what?
[04:16] <fryguy> devin: pastebin a log
[04:16] <gkasinath> drog - I m compiling the alsa-driver as per the wiki at the moment. Will let you know how it goes.
[04:16] <w33d5> ok so i know i can stream HD to my box via firewire or USB but can someone point me in the right direction as to how i can get the recorded programs from my comcast dvr short of removing the dvr HD?
[04:16] <poboy975linux> hello again, i have a question about installing ubuntu via network pxe
[04:16] <frybye> I have tried entering :- /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:02.0/usb1/1-1/1-1:1.2  but it did not work...?
[04:16] <lifestream> ARRRG how can I make Network Manager use its' default values so I can go online again? It shows the default stuff but it doesn't go anywhere
[04:16] <hosstest> Anyone have Ventrilo installed via Wine?
[04:17] <fryguy> hosstest: join #winehq for application specific wine issues
[04:17] <bazhang> ohmygod_, your apt sources use the array org kernel repo
[04:17] <bazhang> ohmygod_, who told you to enable the root account
[04:18] <hosstest> fryguy: I am in there and they are comotose.
[04:18] <mcquaid> My gf got a samsung yp-s3 media player, it's only mtp.  i hadn't upgraded yet but then upgraded to 8.10 as I read the latest libmtp supports this player
[04:18] <ohmygod_> bazhang, I'm take a try by myself. because all my account cann't work.
[04:18] <fryguy> hosstest: that's unfortunate.  check out www.winehq.org then
[04:18] <mcquaid> but it's still not detected
[04:19] <mcquaid> the libmtp site it pretty lacking in info: http://libmtp.sourceforge.net/compatibility.php
[04:19] <bazhang> ohmygod_, you are using the array org kernel (not ubuntu); enabling the root account what changes have you made? if you can remember that is
[04:19] <Bsims> lifestream: tell Network Manager to go check its filesystem... set the info you need in /etc/network/interfaces
[04:19] <poboy975linux> hi, i'm installing ubuntu to a laptop via pxeboot. that part is working great. when it gets to the choice in install to pick a package, every one i have tried stops at 6% and the computer just sits there
[04:19] <drog> gkasinath, sweet
[04:20] <daveUMR> is there any special circumstances with model fields that wont exclude in a form?  I even have the model field set to blank=True, and its excluded in the form, yet it shows up.  dpaste: http://dpaste.com/90909/
[04:20] <ohmygod_> bazhang, no, It's all for the problem.
[04:21] <bazhang> ohmygod_, what are you talking about? what changes have you made using the root account?
[04:21] <ohmygod_> bazhang, I have no make some change , I think
[04:21] <lifestream> Bsims, ... *scratches head* check its filesystem? I got network settings open and all I see is Connections General DNS Hosts.  interfaces file shows:     auto lo  [enter] iface lo inet loopback
[04:21] <bazhang> ohmygod_, how did you install
[04:21] <brick1> how do I change which plugin for flash firefox uses?
[04:21] <bazhang> ohmygod_, was it via usb or external dvd
[04:21] <brick1> I want to use nonfree because gnome's isn't working
[04:21] <bazhang> brick1, which one are you using
[04:21] <ohmygod_> bazhang, via external cd-rom
[04:21] <bazhang> brick1, the nonfree is in synaptic
[04:22] <brick1> bazhang: FF3
[04:22] <Bsims> lifestream: sorry was a bit of a joke, the command to check a filesystem is fsck which sounds a lot like a dirty word... is this wireless or wired?
[04:22] <bazhang> brick1, hardy or ibex
[04:22] <Anacranom> fryguy, hosstest , all ppl, plz stop  sending ppl there, like asking questions in a graveyard,,, thats why i'm educating myself on wine, so i  can help others,,,  that place is dead 75% of the time
[04:22] <brick1> bazhang: I installed it.  The problem started when I upgraded to Ibex
[04:23] <bazhang> Anacranom, wine app specific questions are rightly redirected there.
[04:23] <ohmygod_> bazhang, It's working well for many months. I'm using normal accoun until that account cann't work
[04:23] <bazhang> Anacranom, people just need to be patient
[04:23] <bazhang> ohmygod_, when did it stop working
[04:23] <Anacranom> bazhang, but there's no one there...
[04:23] <ohmygod_> bazhang, about five days ago
[04:24] <bazhang> Anacranom, thus the need for patience
[04:24] <Bsims> bazhang: true enough but still no need to be a jerk about it, thats why I moved from Debian to Ubuntu, that and at the time Debian Sid was uninstallable and stable was too stale
[04:24] <bazhang> ohmygod_, what happened to make it stop working
[04:24] <bazhang> Bsims, referring to debian? not sure what you are talking about
[04:24] <Bsims> ohmygod_: what's not working?
[04:24] <joebodo> is session saving broken in 8.10 - my session is never saved even though i have that option enabled
[04:25] <Bsims> bazhang: yeah refering to debian and the RTFM only answer...
[04:25] <Bsims> joebodo: I beleve so, I think its a known bug
[04:25] <brick1> read 2 f'ing manuals!
[04:25] <joebodo> bsims k - thx
[04:25] <poboy975linux> hello, is anyone familier with installing ubuntu via pxeboot?
[04:25] <matthias> btheadset help do not know how to connect headset ...
[04:25] <ohmygod_> bazhang, I don't know about it, I just remove abiword and gnumeric by apt, and install another office suit, eio
[04:25] <brick1> pxeboot sounds nifty
[04:26] <Bsims> brick1: whats not working for ya? I don't feel like looking up through the scroll <g>
[04:26] <bazhang> ohmygod_, how did you install that suite
[04:26] <ohmygod_> Bsims,when I login desktop by a normal account, the whole desktop and toolbar will be not responding. but if I login by 'root', that's all ok.
[04:26] <lwizardl> hi
[04:26] <brick1> lwizardl: yo
[04:26] <ohmygod_> bazhang, by deb file
[04:26] <Bsims> ohmygod_: Ah I know what it could be...
[04:26] <Bsims> try chowning your home directory back to your user name
[04:27] <poboy975linux> i'm currently installing onto a laptop via pxeboot, its worked great until select and install software, no matter which package i pick, eg.. kubuntu, edubuntu, ubuntu, mythubuntu etc. they all seem to stop and hang at 6%
[04:27] <Anacranom> heh, bazhang , no, if ppl need help with an issue, and that issue is wine, then tell them up front,, go to #winehq but tell them that there is no one there and to be willing to wait days
[04:27] <brujo> dam
[04:27] <brujo> anyone know hot to send commands to tty?
[04:27] <ohmygod_> bazhang, I have installed that deb file in my x61 first. It's fine
[04:27] <brujo> for example i want to do "ls" command to /dev/tty1 from  C program
[04:28] <fryguy> brujo: manipulating the tty device in /dev/ works on some platforms, unsure if it works in ubuntu
[04:28] <Bsims> ohmygod_: chown -r user:group /home/user as root as you enabled it or use sudo
[04:28] <ohmygod_> bazhang, so I installed in eee pc
[04:28] <brujo> i can open /dev/tty
[04:28] <brujo> but if i send commands console just print
[04:28] <brujo> but don't execute
[04:28] <Bsims> brujo: what exactly are you trying to do?
[04:28] <lwizardl> can someone help me with seting up a network. even links work be good. I'm wanting to have 4 machines in the network, 1 main server (holds all data), 2 machines thatkeep updating the information as needed to the main server, and then 1 machine the view it all
[04:29] <brujo> i want to open a program on /dev/tty1
[04:29] <fryguy> brujo: tty is a display interface, it doesn't run commands. there is a getty displayed on the screen that accepts logins
[04:29] <brujo> and on /dev/tty2 open program written in c and manipulate program
[04:29] <Bsims> lwizardl: google for samba and rsync
[04:29] <fryguy> brujo: run what you want and redirect it's output to the tty you want it to appear in using the redirection operator
[04:29] <Bsims> brujo: something wrong with opening a plain xterm and doing it there
[04:30] <fryguy> lwizardl: unison might also be appropriate for you as well
[04:30] <Bsims> lwizardl: I'd be happy to talk to you in detail in pm on what you are trying to do
[04:30] <putra_k> satu
[04:31] <putra_k> a
[04:31] <Bsims> lwizardl: you may be able to get by with plain ssh connections to the server depending on what you are wanting to do with it
[04:31] <brujo> how to redirect?
[04:31] <fryguy> lwizardl: exporting NFS mounts so that everything is always in sync might be appropriate as well
[04:31] <brujo> can you explain me that?
[04:31] <fryguy> brujo: ls > /dev/tty1
[04:31] <fryguy> brujo: for example
[04:32] <Bsims> brujo: man bash in a terminal it will explain all of that
[04:32] <poboy975linux> hello anyone familier with ubuntu install via pxeboot? is there a way to skip the package install, and do it later?
[04:32] <outbackwifi> !hi
[04:32] <brujo> okthnaks
[04:32] <fryguy> brujo: if you are programming it, instead of using stdout (file descriptor 1), open /dev/tty1 as a file and write the output on that file descriptor
[04:32] <nikyo> Hello all[D[D[DHello all.. Just testing out my blackberry remoted into my ubuntu box
[04:32] <Bsims> poboy975linux: Not a clue sorry...
[04:32] <lwizardl> ok Bsims i'm going to pm you
[04:32] <Bsims> feel free lwizardl
[04:33] <outbackwifi> !hi | Nikyo on a blackberry
[04:33] <brujo> sorry but what is a file descriptor?
[04:33] <poboy975linux> humm....ok any idea which package would be best? i use gnome on my desktop and would like that on laptop, but it doesnt seem to be a choice.
[04:33] <nikyo> lLol thank you
[04:33] <droopsta915> Has anyone installed on an acer travel mate 2480?
[04:33] <fryguy> brujo: outside of the scope of the channel.  It's covered in most introductory programming books (under the chapter on I/O)
[04:34] <droopsta915> Has anyone installed UBUNTU on an acer travel mate 2480?
[04:34] <droopsta915> sorry
[04:34] <outbackwifi> no mate not me
[04:34] <brujo> ok thanks
[04:35] <mixed-_-> hello
[04:35] <bullgard4> What does 'bttv' stand for in /usr/share/linux-doc-2.6.24/Documentation/video4linux/bttv/Cards?
[04:35] <mixed-_-> !bbtv
[04:36] <joebodo> brooktree i belive
[04:36] <fryguy> bullgard4: brooktree tv
[04:38] <daveUMR> im making changes to some files and they arent taking (for example a urls file).  i have maxchild set to 1 in my apache config.  any ideas?
[04:38] <TarBar> This is weird, my xchat is working all the time but for every 2 in 3 web pages i visit in firefox on ubuntu 1 of them doesn't load and takes like 30 seconds to load?
[04:38] <fryguy> daveUMR: ? can you be more specific as to "they arent taking" means?
[04:39] <n8tuser> TarBar-> can you paste your /etc/resolv.conf and also your /etc/hosts  file?
[04:39] <TarBar> Paste it here?
[04:39] <xcerca> anybody know the channel for ubuntu on psp talk,  how would i find that ?
[04:39] <Flannel> !pastebin | TarBar
[04:39] <fryguy> !pastebin | TarBar
[04:39] <TarBar> ok
[04:39] <bullgard4> fryguy: I googled that there are 'Brooktree TV' cards. Is 'Brooktree TV' a manufacturer? Did it set some software standards?
[04:39] <daveUMR> fryguy:  well, for example i just added a url mapping in my urls.py file... and when i refresh the page.. it gives me the page not found error, and list the urls its looking at.. and the url mappings havent changed
[04:40] <fryguy> bullgard4: original, yes
[04:40] <Dulak> bullgard4: it was a chipset used in a lot of tv tuner cards
[04:40] <n8tuser> bullgard4-> yes brooktree is one of those pioneering chip makers
[04:40] <fryguy> daveUMR: urls.py is a part of what
[04:40] <daveUMR> a specific application, not the main
[04:40] <jason__> anyone know a good python help irc?
[04:40] <Flannel> jason__: ##python
[04:40] <n8tuser> and a different company from brooktrout..
[04:40] <jason__> thanks
[04:40] <fryguy> jason__: dive into python is a good book, join ##python for an irc channel about it
[04:40] <bullgard4> fryguy, Dulak, n8tuser: Thank you for your help.
[04:41] <fryguy> daveUMR: this is #ubuntu, try asking your question in the channel for whatever application you are using.
[04:41] <bazhang> jason__, dive into python is in the ubuntu repos
[04:41] <jason__> i may get that book
[04:41] <daveUMR> ah shit, thought i was in django
[04:41] <jason__> o its free?
[04:41] <daveUMR> fryguy:  sorry dude, thought i was in django
[04:41] <bazhang> yes
[04:41] <droopsta915> can some see this pastebin and tell me if my laptop is good with ubuntu.http://paste.ubuntu.com/72214/
[04:41] <bazhang> jason__, just install it
[04:41] <fryguy> daveUMR: most likely you need to restart the application after changes are made, or toggle a configuration setting that will cause changes to core files to be autodetected and reloaded
[04:41] <TarBar> Sorry i'm a newbie how do i get to this files?
[04:41] <jason__> ok
[04:41] <jason__> hold on a sec
[04:42] <n8tuser> TarBar-> cat /etc/resolv.conf   and  cat /etc/hosts
[04:42] <bazhang> TarBar, paste.ubuntu.com
[04:42] <daveUMR> thanks for the help fryguy  sorry i wasnt in the right channel :)
[04:42] <bazhang> TarBar, then paste the file there and give us the url
[04:42] <TarBar> ok
[04:43] <usser> TarBar, or sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[04:43] <usser> TarBar, cat /etc/resolv.conf | pastebinit
[04:43] <TarBar> alright
[04:43] <jason__> thanks guys
[04:43] <veryangryman> guys, i upgraded from 8.04 to 8.10 and suddenly my internet connections are capped to around 30kb/s for each connection
[04:44] <n8tuser> veryangryman-> what tools are you using to measure that data rate?
[04:44] <veryangryman> just a normal download
[04:44] <ohmygod_> bazhang, ! I remembered. at first, I found there is a .gvfs file in my user's home directory, it's user and group is all ?. I cann't del it. so I reinstalled gvfs and nautilus.
[04:44] <veryangryman> n8tuser: and... i rebooted the server with the 8.04 livecd...
[04:45] <n8tuser> veryangryman-> i dont think thats accurate, plus you are doing multiple downloads?
[04:45] <veryangryman> n8tuser: and the download came at full speed with this 8.04cd
[04:45] <usser> ohmygod_, that thing is supposed to be here...
[04:45] <fryguy> veryangryman: www.speedtest.net
[04:45] <TarBar> Here it is
[04:45] <TarBar> http://paste.ubuntu.com/72215/
[04:45] <bazhang> ohmygod_, why did you want to delete it
[04:45] <veryangryman> and now i test again
[04:45] <veryangryman> and it seems to be fine, wtf!
[04:46] <veryangryman> forget what i said..
[04:46] <bazaab> I went to speedtest.net and it said my avg download speed was 29MB/s
[04:46] <mneptok> veryangryman: we already did ;)
[04:46] <bazaab> Not bad for 6MB cable :P
[04:46] <n8tuser> TarBar-> and you can easily resolve websites url or takes a long time?
[04:46] <ohmygod_> bazhang, I want to mv all files to another account's home directory,then found it
[04:46] <outbackwifi> maybe you should change your nick to something more appropriate :P
[04:46]  * outbackwifi veryImpatientMan
[04:46] <bazhang> ohmygod_, that is not the way to do it
[04:46] <bazhang> !home | ohmygod_
[04:47] <bazhang> ohmygod_, read that link
[04:47] <fryguy> veryangryman: tcp/ip is packet based, there are no bandwidth guarantees for any given connection (unless you are connecting between virtual circuit type connections like a T1, blah blah blah)
[04:47] <veryangryman> ok
[04:47] <TarBar> n8tuser I can load up say 3 site fine then on the fourth it seems like it stops but then takes about 40 seconds and then loads the site
[04:48] <fryguy> TarBar: do you have flash installed?
[04:48] <n8tuser> TarBar-> that is expected, if the site has lots of redirects and download massive amount of graphics
[04:48] <grendal_prime> ok i finally got it to install. but there is some sort of problem whith the graphical greeter.  it just shows up black.  If i uninstall gdm then i can fire up the desktop with startx. but..if i try and do anything requireing a sudo it tells me it is unable to copy the Xauthorization file ??
[04:48] <bazhang> TarBar, what site
[04:48] <TarBar> Let me try hold on
[04:48] <TarBar> now google isnt loading
[04:48] <grendal_prime> its making me nuts..
[04:49] <fryguy> TarBar: do you have flash installed?
[04:49] <n8tuser> TarBar-> any kind of error?
[04:49] <TarBar> Yes i have installed flash
[04:49] <grendal_prime> but at least i can see a desktop on the fkn machine finally
[04:49] <bazhang> TarBar, install flashblock
[04:49] <fryguy> TarBar: uninstall flash, restart firefox and see if the behavior persists
[04:49] <TarBar> ok
[04:49] <Dominik1> feisty had etc/inittab file where can I find this in 8.10?
[04:50] <fryguy> TarBar: i suspect you are visiting sites that have flash components in them (advertisements, whatever), and when you exit the site, the flash library isn't getting deinitialized correctly, which causes firefox to lock up for a time)
[04:50] <grendal_prime> Im totally down with not using the graphical greeter...not a big fan??
[04:50] <n8tuser> Dominik1-> upstart replaced it, it simulates sysv init system
[04:50] <fryguy> TarBar: it happens in some configurations.  Not much that can be done about it, since flash is proprietary.
[04:50] <grendal_prime> but it seems to cause more problems because of the user agent switcher i think
[04:50] <TarBar> ah
[04:51] <fryguy> Dominik1: upstart might have moved it (upstart is a replacement for the older sysv style init).  take a look at the upstart documentation (upstart.ubuntu.com i think), and see if that gives any enlightenment
[04:51] <TarBar> hmm i cant find where it is installed
[04:51] <Dominik1> n8tuser: im trying to disable virtual terminals, how do I do this in 8.10
[04:51] <Peddy> How do I find out if my graphics card has direct rendering enabled?
[04:51] <fryguy> Peddy: glxinfo | grep -i direct
[04:52] <Peddy> thanks fryguy
[04:52] <TarBar> wow disabling flash did make a difference..
[04:52] <actionfigure> anyone know why xgl is not in the synaptic?  i dont know where to get it installed
[04:52] <deuceswild> Hey guys, I am running ubuntu off of the livecd fine, but when boot it from the hd, my computer suddenly loses power.
[04:53] <bullgard4> deus: Please be more specific: What do you mean by 'loses power'?
[04:54] <actionfigure> anyone?
[04:54] <deuceswild> It just suddenly turns off.
[04:54] <deuceswild> Like you pulled out the battery or  whatever.
[04:54] <deuceswild> And it has never happened using XP
[04:54] <fryguy> deuceswild: likely an issue with the acpi implementation of your motherboard
[04:54] <martin_> can anyone offer my any advice as to where to put eclipse downloaded from there website, what the best directory to place it, btw I'm using xubuntu!
[04:55] <actionfigure> 8.10 doesnt seem to come with xgl ....where do i get the deb?
[04:55] <deuceswild> is there a switch i can try?
[04:55] <n8tuser> Dominik1-> visit /etc/event.d/  and remove the tty you dislike
[04:55] <fryguy> martin_: /opt is a suitable location for external binary packages
[04:55] <martin_> okay, thanks fryguy
[04:55] <bof> hai everyone
[04:55] <bullgard4> deuceswild: Please analyze you /var/log /syslog
[04:55] <bullgard4> deuceswild: Please analyze your /var/log /syslog
[04:56] <martin_> i was thinking about /usr/local/bin - is that sensible?
[04:56] <warriorforgod> deuceswild: I would try booting grub with the noapic and acpi=off parameters.
[04:56] <deuceswild> ok
[04:56] <xorlim> fryguy: how would the binary packages be "external"?
[04:56] <deuceswild> i will try it
[04:56] <grendal_prime> does it make any sence that not having the graphical greeter installed would cause a problem with running apps as root?
[04:56] <fryguy> martin_: it will work, but typically /usr/local is used for things tha are compiled locally and aren't part of your package manager.  For things that you are obtaining that are pre-packaged and precompiled, the filesystem hierarchy standard dictates that those should go in /opt
[04:56] <deuceswild> And what should I do with syslog?
[04:56] <Bsims> martin_: /usr/local/bin is traditonal
[04:57] <bof> i love 8.10
[04:57] <grendal_prime> bof: it wont run on my stuff
[04:57] <grendal_prime> not the insp 1100 anyway
[04:57] <n8tuser> bof  you dont own a broadcom 43xx chip wifi dont you?  hehe
[04:57] <martin_> okay, thanks guys, i'm going with /opt
[04:57] <Bsims> martin_: opt would work as well
[04:58] <Zakaullah> I am encountering the following error again and again during openmoko build process: "ERROR: Task 1596 (/home/zakaullah/moko/openembedded/packages/e17/illume_svn.bb, do_fetch) failed" can any body help me get rid of this.
[04:58] <actionfigure> sigh
[04:58] <spanglesontoast> anyone know why my sound keeps disappearing can't play any music etc anymore
[04:58] <fryguy> xorlim: external as in "not created by you"
[04:58] <Bsims> spanglesontoast: using the new gnome?
[04:58] <spanglesontoast> I'm sure I had a pulse audio thing in the mixer it's gone
[04:58] <spanglesontoast> yes Bsims
[04:58] <Zakaullah> hi everyone
[04:59] <bof> n8tuser why u ask
[04:59] <fryguy> Zakaullah: ask in #openmoko
[04:59] <n8tuser> bof  if you have that chip, you'd not going to say the same :P
[04:59] <actionfigure> anyone know?????????
[05:00] <Zakaullah> yah dear i mistakenly pasted here sorry
[05:00] <fryguy> actionfigure: pretty sure all of the xgl stuff has been merged into the latest version of X
[05:00] <Bsims> spanglesontoast: because pulseaudio sucks basicaly kill it and try again I use kde and it still uses alsa I think as backend
[05:00] <bof> n8tuser try ndiswrapper?
[05:00] <actionfigure> fryguy, when i try to run compiz it says its not installed
[05:01] <Pranka> I'm using Linux Mint 4 (based on Ubuntu Gutsy), i was wondering why everytime i try to install Firefox 3 through synaptic, i get a granparadiso web browser (firefox 3 preview)..it freezes a lot
[05:01] <bof> http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&ct=res&cd=3&url=http%3A%2F%2Fubuntuforums.org%2Fshowthread.php%3Ft%3D405990&ei=cFceSdG9A6CiMoaWufoJ&usg=AFQjCNGrEX934BTbQucpB5S1IAJdoOfSeQ&sig2=BdlBlWcgJJP5FqevlZSKgg
[05:01] <Bsims> actionfigure: and is it installed?
[05:01] <martin_> another question regarding xubuntu, does anyone know how to browse networked drive graphically?
[05:01] <dippo> can anyone tell me the Right Way to switch my window manager from metacity to sawfish in ubuntu 8.10?
[05:01] <actionfigure> Bsims, thats what im saying...i dont know....i looked in synatic and i dont see it
[05:01] <fryguy> actionfigure: compiz is installed and configured by default in recent versions of ubuntu
[05:01] <dippo> I just upgraded and it switched it to metacity.. I can't remember the proper way to set it back
[05:01] <actionfigure> fryguy, so why am i getting that error?
[05:01] <fryguy> dippo: install sawfish, run sawfish --replace, and then make sure that it's changes take effect in your gnome-session (run the session manager)
[05:02] <actionfigure> Bsims, how do i check if its installed?
[05:02] <fryguy> actionfigure: you probably uninstalled/changed something related to compiz.  Or you have a very strange driver configuration
[05:02] <Bsims> actionfigure: in a terminal type "sudo dpkg -l|grep compiz"
[05:02] <n8tuser> Dominik1-> visit this   http://www.linux.com/feature/125977
[05:02] <fryguy> martin_: join #xubuntu for xfce specific questions
[05:03] <fryguy> martin_: or #xfce
[05:03] <actionfigure> ii  compiz                                    1:0.7.8-0ubuntu4                      OpenGL window and compositing manager
[05:03] <mixed-_-> martin_:  just mount it and them use nautilus and put the location of the file in the "location", like "/mnt/network-drive"
[05:03] <martin_> okay thanks fryguy
[05:03] <actionfigure> Bsims, and a few more lines too
[05:03] <Bsims> actionfigure: Ok so its installed...
[05:03] <actionfigure> Bsims, so why do i get that message saying its not installed..and when i run it compiz it freezes my computer
[05:03] <dippo> fryguy: yeah, I tried that.. no dice.. the session prefs have auto-start apps and a tab/button to "remember currently running applications" but that didn't work
[05:04] <poboy975linux> question, once I start a pxeboot install, can i restart the pxeserver computer without messing up the install? does it pull all the apps off the internet? or is it getting info from server?
[05:04] <Bsims> actionfigure: dunno thats wierd
[05:04] <fryguy> Pranka: this is support for ubuntu, not mint.  ask in mint support channels about issues with their repositories
[05:04] <dippo> there's a "window manager" entry in the startup apps which runs /usr/bin/gnome-wm, which led me to think that isn't really the best place to change it
[05:04] <martin_> mixed- , I'm got a vanilla xubuntu installed, no nautilus!
[05:04] <Bsims> actionfigure: try deleteing .compiz out of your home directory... and do sudo apt-get install --reinstall compiz
[05:04] <fryguy> dippo: add it manually.  also look at setting the WINDOW_MANAGER environment variable, or change to using a .xsession file that loads gnome-session how you want
[05:04] <Pranka> fryguy: I apologize, but I can't find the mint chans.
[05:04] <Pranka> >_>;
[05:05] <Pranka> Thanks anyways.
[05:05] <actionfigure> Bsims, ok thanks
[05:05] <dippo> okay.. surprised there's not a simpler way to do that in this day and age
[05:05] <fryguy> Pranka: there is a community link right on the linux mint home page that highlights several mechanisms for contacting people for support, including irc
[05:05] <Buntai> what is the best download manager in firefox using ubuntu?
[05:05] <dippo> i saw someone mention using gconf-editor to change the window-manager key, but it wouldn't preserve my changes
[05:06] <Bsims> actionfigure: never ran into that before, but deleting .compiz basicaly starts you over and thats what the reinstall should do.. if that doesn't work do sudo apt-get remove --purge compiz and then reinstall compiz with sudo apt-get install compiz
[05:06] <Pranka> fryguy: Thank you very much. :)
[05:06] <actionfigure> Bsims, theres no .compiz in my home dir
[05:06] <assem> sometimes my flash player (non-free plugin) stops working after prolonged sessions in firefox 3.  if i restart firefox it starts working again.  i can't seem to google this problem.  any advice?
[05:06] <Marfi> what is an audio format / program i can use to rip a CD to be compatable with 5.1 surround sound?
[05:06] <Bsims> actionfigure: Ok so its never been ran before
[05:06] <Buntai> hello..what is the best download manager in firefox??anyone know???
[05:07] <fryguy> Buntai: what is wrong with the default mechanism for downloading files
[05:07] <actionfigure> Bsims, i tried running it but my computer freezes
[05:07] <Bsims> actionfigure: I'm assuming you are running gnome? try turning on advanced desktop effects
[05:07] <Buntai> fryguy: its slow
[05:07] <fryguy> assem: you are out of luck
[05:07] <actionfigure> Bsims, i can try to run it right now
[05:07] <Bsims> actionfigure: whats your video card
[05:07] <fryguy> Buntai: it will operate at the full speed of the connection available
[05:07] <bullgard4> lspci prints: "02:02.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR5212 802.11abg NIC (rev 01)." How can I determine its associated driver?
[05:08] <actionfigure> Bsims, intergrated agp graphic card
[05:08] <gkasinath> drog, I m back. The wiki guide was most helpful. I recompiled the alsa driver, lib and utils. That worked!
[05:08] <Buntai> i want it fast like Internet download manger
[05:08] <Bsims> bullgard4: google for AR5212
[05:08] <fryguy> assem: depending on the flash you need, you can try other flash solutions like swfdec or gnash
[05:08] <assem> fryguy, is this a known issue?
[05:08] <Bsims> bullgard4: its an atheros AR5212 card if that narrows things down
[05:08] <fryguy> assem: yep
[05:08] <Bsims> actionfigure: intell or who?
[05:08] <actionfigure> compiz
[05:08] <actionfigure> Checking for Xgl: not present.
[05:08] <actionfigure> Blacklisted PCIID '8086:1132' found
[05:08] <actionfigure> aborting and using fallback: /usr/bin/metacity
[05:08] <FloodBot1> actionfigure: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:09] <fryguy> actionfigure: note the second line of that paste...
[05:09] <ferfactor> how i can change the name of the particions of my hard disk
[05:09] <actionfigure> fryguy, ok?
[05:09] <fryguy> actionfigure: the problem isn't that you are missing xgl, it's that you have a weird video card with a weird driver setup, like i mentioned about 10 minutes ago
[05:09] <Frogzoo> ferfactor: tune2fs
[05:09] <Bsims> ferfactor: Um to what?
[05:09] <assem> fryguy, interesting... do you happen to know some keywords to describe this issue? i'd like to google and read some more about it.
[05:09] <fryguy> actionfigure: i'm guessing you have an ATI radeon card that is a few years old?
[05:09] <actionfigure> fryguy, so theres not way around it?
[05:09] <ferfactor> rename
[05:09] <ferfactor> Bsims, rename
[05:09] <actionfigure> fryguy, i have an intergrated card
[05:09] <bullgard4> bascule: Googling is no sure method. I presume that there is a more reliable method in Ubuntu.
[05:10] <Bsims> tune2fs will do it
[05:10] <actionfigure> Bsims, it doesnt say what kind it is
[05:10] <Zuwer> Hi
[05:10] <bullgard4> Bsims:  Googling is no sure method. I presume that there is a more reliable method in Ubuntu.
[05:10] <fryguy> actionfigure: there is something with either your card or the drivers available for your card that don't allow it to run correctly with compiz.  Visit the compiz homepage, there is an environment variable that you can set to bypass it, but it's not recommended and will likely cause extreme system instability
[05:10] <Bsims> actionfigure: lspci -v and msg me the results
[05:10] <bazhang> http://madberry.org/2008/11/how-to-get-atheros-ar242x-to-work-on-810-intrepid-ibex/ bullgard4
[05:10] <Zuwer> I'm running Ubuntu 8.04 and for some reason all sound has cut out, even the start up sounds
[05:11] <Zuwer> How can I fix this problem?
[05:11] <bullgard4> bascule: Excuse me, I directed my message errorneously to you.
[05:11] <Bsims> bullgard4: you asked, its how I'd determine the chipset... its either gonna work magicly or its gonna take hacking if it will work at all
[05:11] <Debolaz> Has anyone here made CoreAVC work in Ubuntu? I can't seem to get xine to pick it up.
[05:12] <tamara> Hello. is it possible to hibernate into a swap file? I don't have a swap partition.
[05:13] <Flannel> tamara: yes.  Any sort of swap will work.
[05:13] <Frogzoo> Flannel: interesting..
[05:13] <Bsims> bullgard4: first hit for Atheros Communications Inc. AR5212 driver ubuntu is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/258043 it could be ya ran into a known bug
[05:13] <Zuwer> How do I get sound back, it won't work at all, running Ubuntu 8.04
[05:13] <Zuwer> ?
[05:14] <gkasinath> Zuwer, whats your sound card?
[05:14] <raldi> I can only get my wifi working via nm-applet, and so I can't use it in text mode. Is there a way to get nm-applet to dump out what it's doing behind the scenes?
[05:14] <Zuwer> lol idk :/
[05:14] <Zuwer> onboard is all i know
[05:14] <actionfigure_> Bsims, http://pastebin.com/d3d144b86
[05:15] <bazhang> Zuwer, open a terminal and type alsamixer
[05:15] <fryguy> Zuwer: lspci -vvv and find out
[05:15] <actionfigure_> fryguy, thanks for your help...its greatly appreciated
[05:15] <bazhang> Zuwer, make sure nothing is muted
[05:15] <Zuwer> nothing is from what i can tell
[05:15] <someguy_001> hello guys, i'm thinking of installing Ubuntu on an external hard drive on my computer and I have a few questions.
[05:15] <abarbaccia> if i build a virtual machine and want to connect to it via ssh from the host machine, do i need to setup a network bridge?
[05:16] <bazhang> Zuwer, then go into sound preferences and try the different choices (ie not autodetect), preferably alsa
[05:16] <someguy_001> how will I dual boot if I do that?
[05:16] <Zuwer> ok
[05:16] <fryguy> abarbaccia: no
[05:16] <thiebaude> zumer:open up volumn control and see if your sound card is listed
[05:16] <Bsims> raldi: take a look in /proc/net?
[05:17] <fryguy> someguy_001: install a bootloader somewhere and use it. if your motherboard supports booting from external drives that's likely the best option
[05:17] <actionfigure_> Bsims, you can see the second device is the vga
[05:17] <gkasinath> someguy_001, I dual boot with Ubuntu on a USB hard drive and Windoze on the internal HD.
[05:17] <Zuwer> Can't hear anything :/
[05:17] <Sinani201> I dual boot, as well
[05:17] <abarbaccia> fryguy: how do i connect to it then?
[05:17] <Bsims> actionfigure_: its an Intel Corporation 82815 Chipset Graphics Controlle which should be enough grunt for compiz but I'm not sure
[05:17] <fryguy> abarbaccia: connect to the IP that was assigned to the virtual machine
[05:17] <actionfigure_> Bsims, ok ..thanks for your help...
[05:18] <Sinani201> Does anynoe know why Frets on Fire is lagging a lot on my computer>
[05:18] <Bsims> actionfigure_: I run nvidia but at least you have something to google on
[05:18] <raldi> Bsims: which "file"?
[05:18] <someguy_001> okay, cause I gots a really old comp with ubuntu, and i'm thinking of getting a new one with both windows and ubuntu.
[05:18] <abarbaccia> ... it picked up a 10. address while my machines are all 192.168.1. addresses
[05:18] <fryguy> Bsims: it's not an issue with grunt, it's an issue with compatibility. a couple of cards have some quirks with them that cause them to not run compiz correctly
[05:18] <actionfigure_> Bsims, the 71?
[05:18] <Sinani201> Umm
[05:18] <Sinani201> Can someone please help me>?
[05:18] <Bsims> raldi: I'm not sure... I'm still looking myself
[05:18] <thiebaude> actionfigure:if graphics card has to support 3d rendering
[05:18] <grendal_prime> whats the gnome equiv of kdewallet?
[05:18] <fryguy> Sinani201: glxinfo | grep -i direct
[05:19] <actionfigure_> thiebaude, ok thanks
[05:19] <fryguy> grendal_prime: i'm guessing.. gnucash
[05:19] <raldi> Bsims: I would have thought it would create a wpa_supplicant conf file or something
[05:19] <thiebaude> yw
[05:19] <Zuwer> bazhang, cant hear anything still
[05:19] <raldi> but i can't find evidence of one
[05:19] <Bsims> raldi: I dunno I was guessing
[05:19] <rpfaff> any thoughts on gOS?
[05:19] <Sinani201> Fryguy, was that supposed to fix it?
[05:19] <Sinani201> In the Terminal?
[05:19] <fryguy> Sinani201: no, it's supposed to return you one line of text that might give a clue as to what the problem is
[05:19] <actionfigure_> Bsims, thanks again
[05:19] <actionfigure_> fryguy, thanks again
[05:20] <Sinani201> oh
[05:20] <actionfigure_> ill have to get a new graphic card
[05:20] <Bsims> actionfigure_: yeah a google says it no workie
[05:20] <fryguy> actionfigure_: take some time to look around the compiz site and forums to make sure i'm not wrong.
[05:20] <Bsims> fryguy: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-607640.html says its a no go
[05:20] <grendal_prime> fryguy: umm no no like a wallet app that you use to keep passwords in...windows users call it password safe
[05:20] <actionfigure_> Bsims, lol.....thanks
[05:21] <Sinani201> The Terminal says: direct rendering: No (If you want to find out why, try setting LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose)
[05:21] <Sinani201> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[05:21] <Peddy> Using commandline, how could I delete all files (and not folders) in a certain folder?
[05:21] <Bsims> actionfigure_: best of luck I'm due for a mainboard upgrade and new video card
[05:21] <fryguy> grendal_prime: there is a gnome keyring manager right in the menu, installed by default, isn't there?
[05:21] <Peddy> Sinani201: I just joined, but are you having a direct rendering problem? I had one, and I fixed it. It came after some recent updates, correct?
[05:21] <fryguy> Peddy: cd to teh directory, find . -type f -exec rm {} \;
[05:21] <actionfigure_> Bsims, thanks..ill get a new one soon :) thanks again..always wondered by my computer graphics ran slow
[05:21] <Bsims> I bought mine just after the current amd boards went live... three or four years ago <g>
[05:22] <abarbaccia> fryguy .. it picked up a 10. address while my machines are all 192.168.1. addresses
[05:22] <Sinani201> Peddy: I don't think I have a rendering problem; it's just that the game is lagging like crazy
[05:22] <Peddy> Sinani201: Does Direct Rendering say 'no'?
[05:22] <fryguy> abarbaccia: right, that's to be expected, so you should be able to ssh to the 10. address
[05:22] <grendal_prime> fryguy: well this was orgianlly a gnome install that was converted to a kde desktop now its going back...
[05:22] <thiebaude> i have an intel 815 so i cant run compiz,:-(
[05:22] <Sinani201> Peddy: It says no.
[05:22] <fryguy> Sinani201: you need to install the proper driver for your video card
[05:22] <grendal_prime> wich is why i asked the question in the first place...but...well you didnt know the circumstance
[05:22] <Bsims> think I'll actually go dual core this time, intel and nvidia I just hate spending as much on a video card as processor cpu and ram
[05:22] <actionfigure_> thiebaude, i feel your pain
[05:22] <Sinani201> ok
[05:22] <thiebaude> haha, this old dell
[05:23] <ruff> anyone here that can help with usb gamepad support?
[05:23] <bullgard4> Bsims: Your first Google hit does not help me. If I google for 'Ubuntu', 'driver' and "AR5212" in English, I obtain 27500 hits. Too much to be useful. You probably did not understand: What is the name of the driver that drives the AR5212 in my Ubuntu 8.04.1?
[05:23] <Sinani201> fryguy: What kind of driver should I get?
[05:23] <fryguy> !ati | Sinani201
[05:23] <Peddy> Sinani201: Try chmod 666 /dev/nvidia* as root
[05:23] <Peddy> Sinani201: That fixed it for me.
[05:23] <Bsims> bullgard4: its an atheros one, I'm unsure I don't use a laptop
[05:23] <Peddy> Sinani201: My games were lagging heaps as well, the FPS was jumping alot.
[05:23] <Peddy> a lot*
[05:24] <bullgard4> Bsims: Thank you for your effort.
[05:24] <Sinani201> Peddy: Was I supposed to put that in the Terminal? IT didn't work
[05:24]  * Bsims has a dumb question... whats a good drop dead stable chipset for Intel's middle road motherboards I don't want any hacking needed I want it to be detected out of the box on a LTS ubuntu release with no quirks
[05:24] <Peddy> Sinani201: In the terminal, and put a 'sudo' before it.
[05:25] <Sinani201> oh
[05:25] <fryguy> Bsims: chipset for what
[05:25] <Bsims> bullgard4: my pleasure, this is my way of trying to give back to the community
[05:25] <fan> Why my pc can't setup ubuntu 8.10 ，my cpu is amd 9850 4870 Fx motherbord i use ubuntu 8.10 dvd ,can't into setup
[05:25] <Sinani201> Peddy: It still doesn't work :(
[05:25] <bullgard4> [Ubuntu 8.04.1] lspci prints: "02:02.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR5212 802.11abg NIC (rev 01)." What is the name of the driver that drives this chip?
[05:25] <fryguy> fan: you need to be more specific
[05:25] <Bsims> fryguy: I'm in the market for a new Motherboard... I want stable, and it to work out of the box all auto-detected
[05:25] <Peddy> Sinani201: Do glxinfo | grep -i direct
[05:26] <thiebaude> fan:did you boot from the cd?
[05:26] <thiebaude> did
[05:26] <fryguy> Bsims: you want what autodetected?
[05:26] <Sinani201> Peddy: I already did that; it says no
[05:26] <Bsims> fryguy: everything... northbridge, intergrated nic
[05:26] <fryguy> Sinani201: click the link i gave you before
[05:26] <fryguy> Bsims: pretty much anything will
[05:26] <Peddy> Ok, do 'sudo chmod 666 /dev/nvidia*' and restart your game.
[05:27] <bazhang> bullgard4, did you blacklist any drivers
[05:27] <Peddy> How would I remove all empty directories in a folder using commandline?
[05:27] <bullgard4> bazhang: No.
[05:27] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=875117 bullgard4 please check here
[05:27]  * Bsims grins last time I upgraded, nforce chipsets were iffy if the very latest if that tells you anything
[05:27] <someguy_001> will realtek 8187b work on intrepid?
[05:27] <ruff> exit
[05:27] <bazhang> someguy_001, yes
[05:28] <someguy_001> alright!
[05:28] <poboy975linux> i use a asrock 775Dual-880 Pro motherboard, its worked on first try
[05:28] <davenull> someguy_001: Most everything wil work, it is more of a matter of will it *not* work.
[05:29] <fryguy> Peddy: do you have a command called "cleanlinks"
[05:29] <poboy975linux> its dual core 3gh 2gig DDRII
[05:29]  * Bsims laughs and goes to haunt newegg... I'm gonna keep my case... got to love an antec sonata II
[05:29] <Sinani201> Hold on
[05:29] <Peddy> fryguy: That looks good, thanks.
[05:30] <ditch64> im trying to install ubuntu on my computer and its gettifng stuck at 78% configuring system locales
[05:30] <ditch64> nay suggestions
[05:30] <ditch64> any*
[05:30] <fryguy> ditch64: have you verified the installation media
[05:30] <ditch64> fryguy: not too sure what that means
[05:30] <bazhang> ditch64, is this an upgrade or a fresh install, and from what version to what version if so
[05:30] <davenull> ditch64: It is a known issue with the kernel in gusty.
[05:31] <ditch64> fresh install 8.04
[05:31] <ditch64> this is hardy
[05:31] <bazhang> ditch64, how long
[05:31] <Peddy> fryguy: I just did cleanlinks, and it cleaned my WHOLE system. Could this be bad?
[05:31] <ditch64> its been like this for like 10 minutes
[05:31] <fryguy> Peddy: probably
[05:32] <Baatti> is there a good site/downloadable book to learn everything there is to know about Ubuntu/Linux/Intrepid?
[05:32] <ditch64> bazhang: this is a fresh insall
[05:32] <davenull> Baatti: Yep, google.
[05:32] <ditch64> install*
[05:32] <Flannel> Baatti: try help.ubuntu.com
[05:32] <Flannel> davenull: please be helpful
[05:32] <Baatti> flannel thanks
[05:32] <Bsims> Baatti: I will tell you the most important command on a linux machine "man man"
[05:33] <Baatti> and davenull, I'm not finding anything real in depth
[05:33] <Bsims> that is the manual to the built in manual
[05:33] <Baatti> bsims gotcha I was doing that
[05:33] <Baatti> thanks Flannel and Bsims, and not so much thanks to davenull
[05:33] <bazhang> ditch64, what cpu and how much ram; I would let it time out/go for a bit longer
[05:33] <Bsims> Baatti: http://tldp.org/
[05:34] <davenull> Baatti: The key is not to treat your search as an ubuntu search, but as a linux search, some of the most valuable sites dont have ubuntu in the article.
[05:34] <Bsims> its the website for the linux documentation project some if it may be outdated
[05:34] <Bsims> but the concepts are the same
[05:34] <bazhang> !rute
[05:34] <poboy975linux> he already left
[05:34] <Peddy> fryguy: you asked me if I had the command, and I tried it out. By default, it does the whole filesystem. It removed a bunch of tmp directories, can I risk a reboot?
[05:34] <bazhang> yep
[05:34] <fryguy> Peddy: no idea
[05:35] <Bsims> Peddy: yeah
[05:35] <Bsims> tmp is nothing
[05:35] <Bsims> assuming you are meaning /tmp
[05:35] <rpfaff> i have 7.04, how do i upgradE?
[05:35] <Flannel> !upgrade | rpfaff
[05:35] <bazhang> !upgrade > rpfaff
[05:36] <Bsims> rpfaff: bear in mind kde on da ibex is 4.x only I had to hunt to find a 3.5 series repo
[05:36] <poboy975linux> ok so my install keeps hangin at 6% installing ubuntu desktop. any ideas? is there a way to do install with full verbose so I can see exactly what happening?
[05:36] <rpfaff> k cool, tengo mike
[05:36] <fryguy> poboy975linux: try the alternative installer
[05:36] <Bsims> Sorry if kde 4.x is too unstable/sucks too hard currently for Debian Sid I don't want it
[05:36] <bazhang> poboy975linux, did you md5 the iso
[05:36] <ditch64> im trying to install ubuntu on my computer and its gettifng stuck at 78% configuring system locales
[05:36] <ditch64> any suggestions
[05:36] <poboy975linux> its installing via netboot
[05:36] <bazhang> Bsims, please chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:37] <iain> I installed Ubuntu, but I can't get online and metacity segfaults.  Anyone know why the network tray icon appears on the first boot but not subsequent ones?
[05:37] <dope> can someone help me get sound working in pidgin?  it only doesn't work in pidigin
[05:37] <bazhang> ditch64, what cpu and how much ram; let it go a bit longer
[05:37] <fryguy> dope: edit | preferences, there is a sound configuration right there
[05:37] <iain> ditch64: Have you tried the Alternate CD?
[05:37] <bazhang> iain, what version of ubuntu
[05:38] <dope> fryguy: i've flipped it to every possible combination and nothing
[05:38] <poboy975linux> its installing from the mini.iso, how do I md5 it?
[05:38] <Bsims> bazhang: I didn't bother to check kubuntu till I upgraded the fact that 8.10 will upgrade you to kde4 and ignore your previous .kde4 directory and mangle the existing kde3x one is kinda usefull info
[05:38] <iain> bazhang: 8.10.  I just installed from Alternate CD (I have a separate /home partition which I kept)
[05:38] <ditch64> iain: alternate cd?
[05:38] <davenull> ditch64: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=865679
[05:38] <bazhang> !alternate
[05:38] <fryguy> ian_brasil: likely something in your old home directory that isn't compatible with the new version of gnome
[05:39] <iain> ditch64: That's what I used because the LiveCD was failing on me.
[05:39] <poboy975linux> how about this....I have a good install cd...how can i tell pxeboot to use that for install instead of the mini.iso?
[05:39] <fryguy> iain: read above, i got the wrong nick
[05:39] <Bsims> poboy975linux: its in the upgrade instructions somewhere... let me google
[05:39] <ditch64> the thing is, i have installed this multipule times on this machine,
[05:39] <fryguy> iain: try cleaning out some of the hidden directories that have gnome settings in your home directory
[05:39] <ditch64> iain: this is just a different hard drive
[05:39] <iain> fryguy: I deleted all my prefs except for games and some stuff.  I deleted .config and .gconf etc.
[05:39] <bbell> Does anybody know where to find the kernel boot parameters for bluetooth (specifically disabling it)?  I've looked in kernel-parameters.txt, src/linux/Documentation, Google, and everything I can think of, but no mention of anything.
[05:40] <fryguy> iain: did you maybe miss something?
[05:40] <et3> I'm having problems installing Diablo 2 with Wine
[05:40] <bazhang> poboy975linux, the minimal probably no need to md5
[05:40] <Bsims> poboy975linux: take a look here http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading though I am sure you did already
[05:40] <iain> fryguy: I'm sure I didn't.  I really deleted almost everything because I didn't want any problems.
[05:40] <dope> console beep won't even work in pidgin
[05:40] <bazhang> et3, what specific problems and have you use wine before
[05:40] <davenull> et3: That question will best be posed to the wine guys.
[05:40] <Bsims> poboy975linux: gksu "sh /cdrom/cdromupgrade"
[05:40] <IOU> does anyone know how to fix "temp.entries:262: parser error : Couldn't find end of Start Tag param line 262"
[05:41] <iain> Oh, and metacity doesn't work even on the new "guest" account which is a clean account every time one uses it
[05:41] <IOU> while running apt
[05:41] <bullgard4> bazhang: Thank you for your help concerning finding the Atheros AR5212 driver.
[05:41] <IOU> now it seems im stuck in dependency hell
[05:41] <bazhang> bullgard4, was that helpful
[05:41] <ditch64> im not too sure if this makes any difference but the HD is out of a mac
[05:41] <Bsims> See ya all later...
[05:41] <et3> bazhang: The cds tell me to insert the "play cd" when it is already in
[05:41] <et3> davenull: which channel would you suggest then?
[05:41] <bazhang> et3, you have configured wine?
[05:41] <fryguy> et3: #winehq
[05:41] <davenull> et3: Let me check.
[05:42] <bullgard4> bazhang: Yes. One guy there gave a hint to another guy, and that worked for me too.
[05:42] <DCPom> when i go to gnome-look.org on my linuxbox, it redirects to a holder page, but when i find it on a mac it works fine. anyone know what would cause this?
[05:42] <IOU> one mo, i'll pastebin the entire output
[05:42] <et3> bazhang: yes.  It has the cd path in the drives section
[05:42] <bazhang> bullgard4, good news
[05:42] <et3> fryguy: thanks.  I'm joining that channel now
[05:42] <fryguy> DCPom: different DNS servers
[05:42] <bazhang> et3, and this game is known to work with wine? (via appdb)
[05:42] <fryguy> bazhang: it is
[05:43] <DCPom> fryguy, can i fix it?
[05:43] <IOU> heres the entire apt output. Comes up on every apt command except clean: http://pastebin.com/m33b3327a
[05:43] <poboy975linux> Bsims * sorry I'm installing to a laptop with no cd drive. its booting up into pxe server on this linux desktop. the pxe tutorial had me download a prepackaged file and it setup the mini.iso. is there a way to change it to use the install cd I have from the server through the pxeboot?
[05:43] <fryguy> DCPom: change your DNS servers so they match, /etc/resolv.conf is one way to change
[05:43] <gds_lumut> shasha
[05:43] <bazhang> IOU, what are you trying to do when you get that error
[05:43] <ditch64> bazhang: i have installed ubuntu many times on this computer with no problems
[05:43] <IOU> anything. It first came up doing an apt-get upgrade yesterday
[05:43] <bazhang> gds_lumut, english please
[05:45] <bazhang> ditch64, that is an odd error that normally only occurs when upgrading between versions
[05:45] <ditch64> bazhang: so should i try 8.10?
[05:45] <ReyRey> Im a runner and have been thinking are there any apps for Ubuntu to track running? or anything like that?
[05:45] <quentusrex> How do I configure ALSA to use my new USB headset rather than my onboard sound?
[05:45] <iain> What app is the network tray icon?  The "Network Configuration" under Preferences is different (and seems less featureful and understanible than the one in 8.04)
[05:46] <ditch64> bazhang: by the way this is a MAC HDD, i cleaned it off so were installing it from a PC and then going to throw it into the macbook pro?
[05:46] <bazhang> ditch64, unless you have capped downloads, I would try the livecd and see how ibex works for you
[05:46] <quentusrex> NVM, found it.
[05:46] <fryguy> iain: nmapplet
[05:46] <ironfroggy_> how can i get postgres to not start at boot?
[05:46] <davenull> ditch64: Mac hdds are the same, just normal drives.
[05:46] <ditch64> davenull: thats what i figured
[05:46] <bazhang> !macbook
[05:47] <iain> fryguy: "command not found" on the LiveCD
[05:47] <bazhang> ditch64, there is a wiki for installing directly to a macbook pro
[05:47] <fryguy> iain: maybe it's nm-applet
[05:47] <ditch64> bazhang: you see the thing is the Cd rom on the macbook is screwed so im installing it from a normal computer
[05:47] <iain> fryguy: Ah yes; sorry
[05:47] <ditch64> bazhang: so its a normal install as of now
[05:48] <bazhang> ditch64, I see
[05:48] <davenull> ditch64: That might not be a great idea, generaly, you dont want to install on one computer, and then put it into another.
[05:48] <IOU> i need to find where this temp.entries file is coming from
[05:48] <CYREX> need help with some connection issues am having
[05:48] <ironfroggy_> i cant manage to search for this. all i can find are tips on making it start postgres, but i dont want to.
[05:48] <ditch64> bazhang: ya right now im talking to you on my macbook pro with my ubuntu/windows HD in it
[05:48] <bazhang> IOU, what are you trying to do when that error occurs
[05:49] <iain> I'm off to try launching nm-applet on my HDD installation; will report back if I can get online
[05:49] <IOU> ditch64, tried creating a USB install ?
[05:49] <CYREX> it seems everyday i get disconnected after some period of time am not quite sure how long it is
[05:49] <ReyRey> Im a runner and have been thinking are there any apps for Ubuntu to track running? or anything like that?
[05:49] <ditch64> IOU: i tried but i could never get the USB drive to boot
[05:49] <CYREX> have to do a dhclient at least twice a day
[05:49] <IOU> bazhang, anything that uses apt. Upgrade, remove, autoremove etc
[05:49] <bazhang> ReyRey, track running? not sure what you mean
[05:49] <CYREX> am connected via ethernet to a adsl modem
[05:50] <CYREX> using ubuntu 8.10
[05:50] <IOU> CYREX, try setting static network values rather than relying on dhcp ?
[05:50] <CYREX> on a intel mobo dp35dp with the lan device the mobo has
[05:50] <Mike9091> I'm trying to increase the font size of the 'xmessage' command (ie xmessage -fn 14 "hello world" but am unsure of the syntax. Anyone know how?
[05:50] <poboy975linux> ok, whats the best way to make an iso of my install cd? or am i gonna have to redownload it?
[05:50] <CYREX> you think that would work, i mean the isp company gives me a dynamic ip
[05:51] <fryguy> poboy975linux: use cat or dd on the device for your cdrom, (/dev/cdrom i think)
[05:51] <IOU> poboy975linux, dd if=/dev/cdrom of=OS.iso
[05:51] <ReyRey> bazhang like when you go running, runners track their times and distance and ext..there are dime of dozen types of programs for this on windows and im hoping there is something similiar for linux. a diary/log to track your progress for excercising.
[05:51] <gaminggeek> Hello
[05:51] <IOU> wait, cat works for creating iso's ?
[05:51] <fryguy> IOU: yes
[05:51] <IOU> nice
[05:51] <poboy975linux> ok, thanks
[05:52] <bazhang> ReyRey, I'm sorry I am not sure there
[05:52] <CYREX> need backup
[05:52] <Mike9091> ReyRey are you usinng a gps?
[05:52] <CYREX> i dont think that would be the answer
[05:52] <gaminggeek> I have plugged an external monitor into my laptop but ubuntu wants to have the external one as the main screen rather than the one in the laptop
[05:52] <fryguy> IOU: in some cases it works better than dd (we've been doing some DVD transcoding on a transcoder farm i built at work), and we ran into a handful of DVDs that dd failed with, and cat succeeded with
[05:52] <gaminggeek> I want it to be the other way around
[05:52] <IOU> fryguy, whats the syntax of the command your using?
[05:52] <ubd> hello yesterday i have installed a package called xubuntu-restricted, however i cnt find it now (just installed xubuntu)
[05:53] <fryguy> IOU: for cat?   cat /dev/cdrom > whatever.iso
[05:53] <IOU> awesome
[05:53] <ReyRey> mike9091 no im not using a gps..im currently putting my info manually in an excel sheet but hoping a program exist to compute data and such
[05:53] <bazhang> ubd, xubuntu-restricted-extras?
[05:53] <IOU> okay im gonna remove all the offending packages and see if dpkg comes right
[05:53] <Mike9091> Oh., sorry, can't help.
[05:53] <IOU> dont wanna really re-install if i can avoid it
[05:54] <ubd> bazhang, i am not sure it was a package consisting of useful restricted things like mp3 etc
[05:54] <fryguy> IOU: been spending a fair amount of time over the past couple of days looking at the source code for cat and for dd trying to find why one would succeed with a DVD where one would fail, unfortunately i haven't found anything conclusive yet :(
[05:54] <howdy_> Does anyone have suspend-to-RAM working in 8.10 on a MacBook Pro?
[05:54] <bazhang> ubd, you wont find 'it' anywhere, it is spread all around your system
[05:54] <ubd> bazhang may it be on the install cd
[05:54] <ubd> it was a virtual package
[05:55] <bazhang> ubd, no, thus the appellation restricted
[05:55] <Mike9091> I'm trying to increase the font size of the 'xmessage' command (ie xmessage -fn 14 "hello world") but am unsure of the syntax. Anyone know how?
[05:55] <fryguy> Mike9091: does the manpage for xmessage show the syntax
[05:55] <bimberi> ubd: xubuntu-restricted-extras
[05:56] <ubd> well i cant find it
[05:56] <Mike9091> no, it doesn't mention anything about fonts, but I know it's possible from googling. xmessage -font is a valid option (though not present in the man page)
[05:56] <bazhang> ubd, what specifically are you looking for? it is many different components
[05:56] <IOU> Bah this is bugging the heck outta me
[05:57] <Mike9091> If you type    #xmessage -fn 'FreeSans.ttf' test     you'll see what I mean.
[05:57] <ditch64> bazhang: would changing versions that im installing work?
[05:58] <ubd> it is not on synactic i enabled all repos
[05:58] <ubd> i am looking for media codec java and etc
[05:58] <bazhang> ditch64, as I said that is an odd error related to upgrading from gutsy to hardy (via net) so not sure; you may wish to try ibex though as it has better support for many components etc
[05:59] <ditch64> !ibex
[05:59] <ubd> when i search xubuntu in syaptic i only find docs artwork desktop //
[05:59] <bazhang> ubd, why look for them? just try and use the various items
[05:59] <ubd> i am noob that is why i am looking for it
[05:59] <IOU> gonna re-install
[06:00] <ubd> :D
[06:00] <bazhang> ubd, try to play an mp3 or view a page on the internet with flash
[06:00] <bimberi> ubd: it's in the multiverse repository, which you probably don't have enabled.
[06:01] <howdy_> Mike9091: try running editres to see if you can set some X resources for xmessage
[06:01] <bimberi> ubd: Settings -> Repositories   in Synaptic
[06:01] <howdy_> now... has anyone on here used Ubuntu on a MacBook Pro?
[06:02] <howdy_> or... does anyone have suspend-to-RAM working (on any machine)?
[06:02] <Mike9091> ok, never used editres, will play with it now.
 Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 02)
[06:02] <poboy975linux> ok so in a netboot scenario, what does the mini.iso provide?
[06:02] <ubd> i enabled multiverse already. may be the server is lame
[06:02] <ubd> ill try another server
[06:03] <howdy_> Mike: to get started, use Commands > Get Tree to capture the resources for the xmessage; window, and use Commands > Show Resource Box to edit the resources for a given widget (selected from the tree)
[06:03] <[mbm]> Mike9091: use xfontsel to select the font and size, hit select and it'll be copied to clipboard .. paste it somewhere and then use that string for xmessage's -fn option
[06:04] <flaccid> i just upgraded to intrepid from hardy and it seems to have changed the logical device naming of my partitions so it cannot boot. its like it has swapped sda1 and sda2 around. what is the problem and how to fix. the same sort of thing happened last upgrade
[06:04] <ubd> if anyone has restrected extras in his synaptic can you tell me the server you are using
[06:06] <flaccid> actually seems that in each release the logical naming scheme changes. my hda has now changed to sda and the update-grub on upgrade doesn't seem to produce the right logical names. seems like ubuntu is majorly flawed here
[06:06] <lain_wired> Hi all.
[06:06] <flaccid> hmm and this channel is always the case of too many indians and no chiefs...
[06:07] <lain_wired> I'm having an odd connection issue with Intrepid.
[06:07] <Kumo> any idea how I can slave the volume cocntrols on my laptop to control headphone volume as well?
[06:07] <[mbm]> flaccid: edit your /boot/grub/menu.list .. there will be an old root= line, hange it and run update-grub
[06:07] <poboy975linux> there were lots of chiefs earlier
[06:07] <lain_wired> Every time the modem is turned off (then on again), ubuntu can't find the connection, unless I remove the ethernet cable and plug it back it.
[06:07] <Flannel> flaccid: Hardy should have been using sda as well.  However, most places use UUID now, if not all.
[06:07] <flaccid> [mbm], did that but it doesn't update it correctly. i've changed it manually but for people who don't know this they are stuffed
[06:07] <lain_wired> I'm not sure why it's not automatic really.
[06:07] <Mike9091> ok trying both those....
[06:08] <bryan_> how do i get games to work on linux
[06:08] <[mbm]> flaccid: oh; file a bug report if you want the person in charge of the package to actually fix it; I just know the workaround
[06:08] <bazhang> bryan_, which games
[06:08] <Kumo> bryan:  Patience.  Lots of patience.
[06:08] <bryan_> pc games like diablo
[06:08] <Kumo> Wine
[06:08] <bazhang> bryan_, via wine
[06:08] <poboy975linux> youll have to try wine
[06:09] <bryan_> k ty
[06:09] <flaccid> [mbm], done that twice in the past with no success. i'll just accept that ubuntu sux :)
[06:09] <bazhang> bryan_, check the appdb for which work
[06:09] <bazhang> !appdb > bryan_
[06:09] <Kumo> The only other alternative is to run a VM
[06:09] <laobing> UBUNTU-CN
[06:09] <laobing> #ubuntu-cn
[06:10] <Flannel> laobing: /join #ubuntu-cn
[06:10] <poboy975linux> whats the -cn mean?
[06:10] <bazhang> china
[06:10] <poboy975linux> ahhh
[06:11] <[mbm]> flaccid: yep, I hear the next version of vista is going to be so much better :)
[06:11] <poboy975linux> sheesh, this is gonna take all night to install.
[06:11] <bimberi> At least the "indians" know their trolls :)
[06:12] <flaccid> [mbm], windows aint a real OS. i prefer something like freebsd.
[06:12] <olskolirc> hey what is another good graphic editor like gimp for linux
[06:12] <Flannel> olskolirc: GIMP is available for Linux
[06:12] <matthew> freebsd is classic
[06:12] <Quick0ne> Hello.
[06:12] <olskolirc> other than gimp Flannel we got anything else?
[06:12] <poboy975linux> humm...noob question, but how do I change my nick? i'm using pidgin msgr to talk in here
[06:12] <[mbm]> flaccid: so why are you running ubuntu?
[06:13] <Vastlee> Is it possible to see a windows shared directory through Ubuntu?
[06:13] <matthew> !inkscape
[06:13] <Flannel> poboy975linux: /nick foobar
[06:13] <Flannel> !samba | Vastlee
[06:13] <[mbm]> Vastlee: yes.
[06:13] <Kumo> Anyone else see the new Bond?
[06:13] <Mike9091> [mbm] Thank you very much, xfontselect gives me the syntax I needed!
[06:13] <olskolirc> wow thanks matthew
[06:13] <Flannel> Kumo: #ubuntu-offtopic for non-support topics, thanks
[06:13] <Quick0ne> I would like a small bit of help with wireless configuration, I just now installed Ubuntu 8.10 on a Dell laptop, a Inspiron B130 and I cannot get it to recognize the wireless onboard controller or connect to a wireless network.
[06:13] <tritium> Kumo: stay on topic, please
[06:13] <bazhang> Kumo, please discuss in #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:13] <Flannel> !away > poboy975sleep
[06:13] <matthew> yeah
[06:13] <flaccid> [mbm], bsd has less vendor support than linux in general
[06:14] <[mbm]> Mike9091: surprised people are still using the old programs
[06:14] <poboy975sleep> ahh sorry, didnt know that command
[06:14] <poboy975sleep> thanks
[06:14] <[mbm]> flaccid: oh, they weren't interested in fixing your grub issues either?
[06:15] <Quick0ne> When looking for a place to go to for assistance with Ubuntu issues, this was one of the locations suggested.  Is this in fact the correct place to go?  If not, would someone be willing to at least point me in the right direction?
[06:16] <bazhang> Quick0ne, this is it
[06:16] <Quick0ne> Ok.
[06:16] <Quick0ne> I had asked my question and had not received any replies.
[06:16] <Quick0ne> So wasn't sure if this was the right place.
[06:16] <ubd_> how can i learn my local ip
[06:16] <Quick0ne> I will repeat the question.
[06:16] <Mike9091> mbm, it's probably never been used for this purpose before, but since you asked....I'm using it to pop up a message on a mythbuntu box, when I'm ssh'd in remotely (to send messages to those in the house watching tv, movies etc..)
[06:17] <Quick0ne> I would like a small bit of help with wireless configuration, I just now installed Ubuntu 8.10 on a Dell laptop, a Inspiron B130 and I cannot get it to recognize the wireless onboard controller or connect to a wireless network.
[06:17] <bazhang> ubd_, ifconfig
[06:17] <bingungaja> why can't i install flash player plugin in my webbrowser ? (http://img238.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot5vd8.png)
[06:17] <ubd_> ty bazhang
[06:17] <flaccid> Quick0ne, if someone doesn't answer, then logically nobody can help with your question
[06:17] <bazhang> bingungaja, via synaptic
[06:17] <bazhang> flaccid, please stop
[06:17] <flaccid> despite over 1000 people..
[06:17] <tux9778> hi quickone have you checked your restricted drivers?
[06:17] <matthew> Quick0ne, go to system>admin>hardware drivers
[06:17] <marcel> help whi is the germen ubuntu server?
[06:17] <[mbm]> Mike9091: actually that's pretty much exactly as intended
[06:17] <flaccid> start
[06:17] <bazhang> #ubuntu-de marcel
[06:18] <Quick0ne> I am getting "No proprietary drivers are in use on this system."
[06:18] <iain> nm-applet claims it's connected, but I can't even ping the router.  What would cause this?
[06:18] <marcel> #ubuntu-de
[06:18] <matthew> And see if it recognizes your wireless
[06:18] <bingungaja> bazhang: for browser plugin by synaptic ? can u tell me how to do it please ?
[06:18] <Quick0ne> I cannot use the wired connection, either, I just discovered.
[06:18] <matthew> Have you done an update ?
[06:18] <Quick0ne> No, I can't.
[06:18] <bazhang> bingungaja, you want the nonfree plugin
[06:18] <marcel> #ubuntu - de
[06:18] <Quick0ne> I have no current method of reaching the internet from that laptop.
[06:18] <Flannel> marcel: /join #ubuntu-de
[06:18] <bazhang> marcel, /join
[06:18] <Quick0ne> I am currently on my desktoip.
[06:18] <tux9778> quickone i'm using 8.04 on mine and it works like a charm couldn't get 8.10 to install for some odd reason
[06:18] <matthew> You probably have to enable some repos and update
[06:18] <marcel> ohh okay
[06:18] <Quick0ne> It installed just fine.
[06:19] <deigel> i have the atheros AR242 rev 01 wifi on intrepid.  i have tried the usual linux-backports-modules-intrepid and i seem to still get no wifi on my laptop.  i'm unsure what to try, i know for others, this package worked, i think i read it may have stopped working in the latest kernel update.  any ideas how to get this one to work ?
[06:19] <bazhang> Quick0ne, what video card
[06:19] <Quick0ne> No idea.
[06:19] <matthew> bazhang, wireless
[06:19] <Quick0ne> Video is working fine.
[06:19] <Quick0ne> I'll enable repos in synaptic, just a sec.
[06:19] <Vastlee> Seems I often have to copy code and run it in a terminal.  Does anyone know of a firefox extention that would allow me to highlight code then right click and "Run in Terminal"?
[06:19] <bazhang> http://madberry.org/2008/11/how-to-get-atheros-ar242x-to-work-on-810-intrepid-ibex/ deigel
[06:19] <deigel> thank you bazhang
[06:20] <mphone> hi everyone .can anybody tell me how to use GCoherence?
[06:20] <bingungaja> bazhang: the issue is like this : i open wordpress website, and then a pop up menu asking me to install missing plugin (which is flash), then after a while, it stated that it failed to install, so what must i do, so that my browser can work perfectly
[06:20] <bazhang> deigel, you're welcome
[06:20] <matthew> Quick0ne, can you get a connection with a network cable ?
[06:20] <tux9778> quickone is your laptop hooked up using a ethernet connection?
[06:20] <[mbm]> Vastlee: somehow that doesn't seem like a good idea
[06:20] <flaccid> hmm this seems like another pathetic ubuntu release. time to start submitting bugs. cyas
[06:21] <matthew> tux9778, why repeat what i say ?
[06:21] <matthew> tux9778, jk :P
[06:21] <tux9778> ok matthew :P
[06:21] <Quick0ne> In the software sources in Synaptic, I've got Canonical, Community, Proprietary, Software restricted all checked.
[06:21] <Quick0ne> Should that cover me?
[06:21] <matthew> yeah were they already checked >?
[06:21] <bazhang> flashplugin-nonfree bingungaja
[06:21] <Flannel> Quick0ne: yes
[06:22] <Quick0ne> Yes, they were.
[06:22] <SeaOfTea> ubuntu /w compiz rules
[06:22] <Quick0ne> Hm...
[06:22] <Quick0ne> I can't even get it to recognize the ethernet port connection either.
[06:22] <gigel2006> how can I switch to ath5k from ath9k (i have a ath9k chipset)? also does anyone have the madifi channel?
[06:22] <[mbm]> SeaOfTea: the novelty of the effects wears off fast
[06:22] <ditch64> so if i wanted to upgrade an existing system from 8.04 to 8.10 with out losing everything, how would i do that?
[06:22] <matthew> are you using eth0 ?
[06:22] <bingungaja> bazhang: i checked the synaptic : flashplugin has already installed ....
[06:22] <Quick0ne> No, I have no drivers installed as far as I can tell.
[06:22] <bingungaja> bazhang: i checked the synaptic : flashplugin-nonfree has already installed ....
[06:23] <Quick0ne> Forgive me, I haven't used Ubuntu in 18 months now.
[06:23] <Flannel> !upgrade | ditch64
[06:23] <Quick0ne> I have forgotten most of what I learned.
[06:23] <[mbm]> ditch64: run update-manager
[06:23] <Quick0ne> I am getting "no network devices available"
[06:23] <tux9778> quickone how i got my wifi to work on my dell inspiron is hooked it up with a network cable went to system hardware drivers and clicked on the checkboxes and then asked if you would like to install some packages and i said yes and then restrated worked for me quickone
[06:23] <SeaOfTea> [mbm]: I use it for the features like expo
[06:23] <Quick0ne> Yes, but I have it hooked to a network cable and it won't even recognize that!
[06:23] <bazhang> bingungaja, did you restart firefox? what site?
[06:24] <matthew> tux9778, that is how I do it with my hp laptop
[06:24] <bimberi> Quick0ne: Are the network devices enabled in the BIOS?  (if they're working under another O/S that would be "yes")
[06:24] <Quick0ne> OHHHH wait a fucking minute.
[06:24] <Quick0ne> *fucking idiot disabled the LAN*
[06:24] <SeaOfTea> if only I could get window rules to work, I would have the best os eva
[06:24] <Flannel> Quick0ne: please watch your language
[06:24] <bazhang> Quick0ne, please no cursing
[06:24] <tux9778> cool matthew witch version u runnin on urs?
[06:24] <matthew> switch was off ?
[06:24] <Quick0ne> Oh, sorry about that baz.
[06:24] <Quick0ne> Won't do it again.
[06:24] <matthew> tux9778, ubuntu ?
[06:24] <tux9778> yes
[06:24] <matthew> tux9778, 8.04
[06:24]  * Quick0ne apologizes for the language.
[06:24] <[mbm]> SeaOfTea: only feature I still have enabled is translucent terminals; atleast when with terminal windows 3 layers deep on my desktop I still get a sense of when something is printed
[06:24] <Quick0ne> Thanks guys, I should have it from here.
[06:25] <tux9778> same here matthew u couldn't install 8.10 either?
[06:25] <Quick0ne> Thank you for pointing out the obvious.
[06:25] <bingungaja> bazhang: i'm using flock, wordpress my newly blog, the flashplugin has already installed long before it asked from the browser i guess ....
[06:25] <Quick0ne> :)
[06:25] <matthew> I can install it there are a few apps I couldn't get working
[06:25] <iain> Why can I see access points, connect to one, and get an IP address but be unable to ping the router/AP?
[06:25] <matthew> I have 8.10 on a usb stick
[06:25] <tux9778> ok matthew i couldn't even install 8.10 so i tried 8.04 works like a charm
[06:25] <matthew> I'm doing an experiment now
[06:26] <[mbm]> iain: check the routing table?
[06:26] <tux9778> cool matthew
[06:26] <bimberi> iain: the router/ap might not answer pings
[06:26] <matthew> tux9778, try installing with the alternate install cd
[06:26] <SeaOfTea> [mbm]:  You can also bind all kinds of shortcuts like viewport switching and what not.  If used properly I think compiz can make you a real power user.
[06:26] <iain> [mbm]: I don't know what that means; could you explain?
[06:26] <matthew> I use 8.04 on my laptop for the lts
[06:26] <tux9778> matthew alternate install cd?
[06:27] <[mbm]> iain: not without several paragraphs and a few diagrams ;)
[06:27] <matthew> yeah
[06:27] <gigel2006> How can I change to ath5k from ath9k ??
[06:27] <iain> bimberi: I can ping it from this PC though, just not the one with Ubuntu
[06:27] <tux9778> so matthew use another cd?
[06:27] <matthew> http://www.ubuntu.com/GetUbuntu/downloadmirrors#alternate
[06:27] <matthew> it is a text install
[06:27] <matthew> instead of the live cd
[06:27] <SeaOfTea> gigel2006: do you have ath9k installed?
[06:27] <matthew> that is how I got it working
[06:27] <Jordan_U> gigel2006: "sudo rmmod ath9k; sudo modprobe ath5k"
[06:27] <gigel2006> SeaOfTea: yes and ath9k chipset
[06:28] <iain> [mbm]: what file would that be?
[06:28] <gigel2006> Jordan_U: and that's it ?
[06:28] <Jordan_U> gigel2006: But ath5k might not support your card
[06:28] <SeaOfTea> gigel2006: thats it
[06:28] <Jordan_U> gigel2006: That will do it temporarily
[06:28] <picachu> Hey. where can I download a ubuntu ISO that is up to date? (Not the Oct 30 ISO, but a nightly, maybe?) I want to check if a newer version works
[06:28] <tux9778> thanks matthew i'll stick with 8.04 lol
[06:28] <gigel2006> Jordan_U: I knwo but worth a try since ath5k supports injeciton and 9k DOESNT
[06:28] <matthew> lol I will to for my laptop lol
[06:28] <[mbm]> iain: *shrug* ok, I have a bit of time .. do you know what an ip address is? (yes I know this is a dumb place to start)
[06:28] <baby-d> hey im looking for a tv torrent open for apps? anyone?
[06:29] <matthew> 8.04 is supported longer than 8.10
[06:29] <iain> [mbm]: Yes; I do :-)
[06:29] <baby-d> oops i mean sign ups
[06:29] <tux9778> matthew do you own a mp3 player?
[06:29] <matthew> yeah I have 2
[06:29] <[mbm]> iain: and your wireless device has the correct ip address? (probably starts with a 192.168.x.x)
[06:29] <tux9778> cool matthew witch ones?
[06:29] <iain> [mbm]: Yeah
[06:29] <bimberi> iain: ah, not that then :|
[06:29] <matthew> both are cowon iaudio
[06:30] <matthew> they come with linux software
[06:30] <ddgoose> picachu, you could download the mini.iso, and point it at a mirror that shows as up to date on the apt mirror list.
[06:30] <[mbm]> iain: know what a network mask is?
[06:30] <tux9778> not those matthew ipods and such ones
[06:30] <iain> [mbm]: No, but I know what mine is
[06:30] <matthew> I don't have an ipod
[06:30] <matthew> never will have one
[06:30] <[mbm]> iain: 255.255.255.0?
[06:30] <tux9778> i had one matthew and didn't like it lol
[06:31] <iain> [mbm]: Yeah, also written as 24 (I can guess why)
[06:31] <[mbm]> iain: ah, so you know binary?
[06:31] <matthew> I support hardware companies that support linux
[06:31] <vioz> ubuntu is the best in the world
[06:31] <gigel2006> Jordan_U: SeaOfTea:  module ath5k not found.
[06:31] <tux9778> thats cool matthew
[06:31] <vioz> windows is the fucking operation system
[06:31] <Jordan_U> gigel2006: ath5k is in linux-backports-modules I believe, let me check though
[06:32] <iain> [mbm]: Yeah but I haven't used it since my C class a year ago
[06:32] <thomasite> Hello. Is "sudo apt-get autoremove" safe?
[06:32] <gigel2006> Jordan_U: sudo apt-get install linux-backports-modules ?
[06:32] <matthew> anyone know if you can custom make a usb pin drive then disc dump that drive and burn that image to dvd and use it as a live dvd ?
[06:33] <picachu> Guys, I need a "nightly" build of 8.10, and i know it exists, but where do I find them?
[06:33] <[mbm]> iain: the netmmask represents the bits in the ip address that are constant, so if you have a 192.168.1.100 ip and a netmask of 255.255.255.0, the "192.168.1" is constant between all the devices on the network; to get to anything outside that range, it needs a gateway
[06:33] <Jordan_U> picachu: Nightly builds were for pre-release versions
[06:34] <picachu> Oh. I'm doomed. Thanks anyway :(
[06:34] <iain> [mbm]: That was my guess, except I don't understand the gateway part.
[06:34] <Jordan_U> picachu: What do you need a nightly build for ?
 Jordan_U: sudo apt-get install linux-backports-modules ?
[06:35] <[mbm]> iain: that part's simple .. it's any device connected to two or more networks .. it's that kid in class that you ask to pass messages for you .. they pass it off to the next person (gateway) until it finally reaches the destination
[06:35] <matthew> nightly build ?
[06:35] <iain> So would that be the router or the modem?
[06:35] <lucile> hi
[06:36] <[mbm]> iain: depends on how things are connected; ever heard of a program called traceroute?
[06:36] <iain> Yeah
[06:36] <lucile> somebody help me please
[06:36] <lucile> i cant enter to the Ubuntu-es
[06:36] <SeaOfTea> Does anyone know if there are any games or fun apps that use circular scrolling?
[06:36] <picachu> Jordan_U: after installing 8.10 I guess insane crashes everywhere. Apps don't load, Network manager doesn't like my WEP connection (I think those errors were a think of the past?) and *sigh* more things like that. I can't even do updates to see if the problem is fixed. I could use 8.10 but I really want updated versions of programs, like Gnome-Do. The version in Hardy is useless for me
[06:36] <bazhang> lucile, type /join #ubuntu-es
[06:37] <lucile> ok thx
[06:37] <gigel2006> How can I search repositories ? apt-cache ?
[06:37] <Jordan_U> gigel2006: sudo apt-get install linux-backports-modules-intrepid
[06:37] <bazhang> apt-cache search gigel2006
[06:37] <gigel2006> Jordan_U: I don't have interpid though
[06:37] <[mbm]> iain: every packet you send has a TTL - a time to live .. each time the message is repeated by a gateway the TTL decreases; when the TTL expires, the gateway sends back an error message saying the TTL was too low
[06:38] <SeaOfTea> poor packets
[06:38] <Jordan_U> gigel2006: Ahh, then you will have to find a package for or build ath5k. Does ath_pci work?
[06:38] <[mbm]> iain: traceroute works by purposely starting with a low TTL and slowly increasing it, so it gets error messages back from each "hop" (gateway) between source and destination
[06:38] <gigel2006> bazhang: THANKS
[06:38] <lucile>  is /join #ubuntu-es ??
[06:38] <iain> TBH traceroute isn't installed by default so if you think I might need it to fix my connection let me know and I'll download it on this PC and put it on a flash drive.
[06:38] <bazhang> gigel2006, you're welcome
[06:38] <bazhang> lucile, yes
[06:38] <tux9778> matthew what apps do u use to scan wifi networks?
[06:39] <gigel2006> Jordan_U: no idea
[06:39] <iain> [mbm]: Ah, so that's how it finds each link in the chain.
[06:39] <gigel2006> Jordan_U: I just need the ath5k driver
[06:39] <gigel2006> Jordan_U: No repositories for it ?
[06:39] <SeaOfTea> I believe you will have to disable mad wife if you wish to use ath5k
[06:39] <Jordan_U> iain: tracepath is basically the same thing
[06:39] <SeaOfTea> mad wifi
[06:39] <lucile> if u want enter in this channel , nobody into of channel
[06:39] <Jordan_U> gigel2006: I don't know off hand
[06:40] <deuceswild> Hey Guys. I was in here earlier because when I boot Ubuntu from the HD, my computer suddenly turns off, but it works fine from the livecd. Someone in here told me to try booting with noapic acpi=off and it seems like it works now.
[06:40] <[mbm]> iain: taceroute or tracepath is handy to have when your network isn't working
[06:40] <gigel2006> SeaOfTea: how do I do that ?
[06:40] <CjMaster> Quick questions: I know that lots of applications and files slows down windows, but does it slow down ubuntu?
[06:40] <deuceswild> I noticed there is a bios update available for my computer. Do you think that might fix it?
[06:40] <SeaOfTea> deuceswild: That's how I have to boot
[06:40] <Jordan_U> deuceswild: It might
[06:41] <[mbm]> iain: next bit of useful info, a routing table .. if you type "route -n" at the prompt you
[06:41] <SeaOfTea> You have to blacklist it
[06:41] <[mbm]> iain: you'll see your routing table
[06:41] <graydot> deuceswild, when I used that option, my system heated up like crazy
[06:41] <Lymies> For some reason with my perl installation, it doesn't understand the 'use' statements. Thats something thats so basic in perl, so theres gotta be something wrong here. I just used the line 'use strict;' and it gives me this error: line 3: use: command not found
[06:41] <deuceswild> I don't want to have to burn a 1.4 megabyte cd
[06:41] <gigel2006> How can I find my kernel version?
[06:41] <deuceswild> I'll keep an eye on the temp.
[06:41] <deuceswild> But the fans do run
[06:41] <SeaOfTea> gigel2006: uname -r
[06:41] <Lymies> gigel2006, uname -r
[06:41] <supertanker> Do I need to have this "RPC" service sitting on my computer with a port open?
[06:41] <gigel2006> SeaOfTea: Lymies: ty
[06:42] <iain> [mbm]: tracepath 192.168.2.1 returns 2 lines with my PC's IP address.  Since it doesn't return 192.168.2.1 I assume it's not reaching the router; is this correct?
[06:42] <iain> Ah now this is strange; it's reporting a different IP address for my box than ifconfig does
[06:42] <SeaOfTea> gigel2006: You should really think about upgrading to 8.10, it would make loading ath5k a hell of lot easier
[06:42] <[mbm]> iain: each line has an ip addres, netmask (genmask) and gateway .. the list is sorted from the most restrictive to least restrictive netmask
[06:42] <gigel2006> SeaOfTea: I HAVE 8.10
[06:43] <gigel2006> SeaOfTea: is that intrepid ?
[06:43] <Jordan_U> gigel2006: 8.10 is intrepid ( or technically the development codename for 8.10 was intrepid )
[06:43] <SeaOfTea> yeppers
[06:44] <gigel2006> Jordan_U: OH so I can try your command now
[06:44] <SeaOfTea> that's why I thought you were in something else, cause you said you didn't have intrepid
[06:44] <Jordan_U> Lymies: What is the #! line in your script?
[06:44] <[mbm]> iain: what's the basic layout of your network? internet comes in a cable/dsl model, which is then connected to a router which is then connected to all the computers?
[06:44] <Jordan_U> gigel2006: Yes
[06:44] <Lymies> Jordan_U, #!/usr/bin/perl -w
[06:45] <Jordan_U> Lymies: How are you calling your script?
[06:45] <Lymies> flac2mp3.pl
[06:45] <iain> [mbm]: Yes, and I'm upstairs from the crappy wireless router with a crappy wireless connection, on account of there being no ethernet port in this room.
[06:45] <Lymies> and its in /usr/bin/local
[06:45] <Lymies> which is in my path
[06:45] <iain> But it's not so crappy that I should be able to see it but not ping it; I could connect at least under 8.04
[06:46] <gigel2006> Jordan_U: Error inserting lbm_cw_mac80211 Unknown symbol in module
[06:46] <[mbm]> iain: your cable/dsl router has builtin wireless?
[06:46] <netdur> help, samba shares don't see each other
[06:46] <iain> My router does; not my cable modem
[06:46] <SeaOfTea> gigel2006:  somethings wrong with the driver
[06:47] <SeaOfTea> gigel2006: Did you install the backports module
[06:47] <gigel2006> SeaOfTea: yes, do I have to restart ?
[06:47] <deuceswild> Hey Seaoftea: I was just wondering what happens when you don't boot with noapic acpi=off
[06:47] <Jordan_U> Lymies: Odd, because perl doesn't give "command not found", shells do. Can you check that /usr/bin/perl is not a symlink to /bin/sh or something like that ( though I don't see why it would be )
[06:48] <SeaOfTea> gigel2006: try a restart, and if that doesn't work disable madwifi
[06:48] <[mbm]> iain: and it probably also has a DHCP server for handing out ip addresses, so upon connecting to the wireless network, you should get an ip of 192.168.1.x, a netmask of 255.255.255.0 and a gateway of 192.168.1.1 - right?
[06:48] <thomasite> ! fslint
[06:49] <gigel2006> SeaOfTea: how do I disable madwidi ?
[06:49] <iain> Replace the third bit with a 2 (192.168.2.1), but yeah
[06:49] <SeaOfTea> deuceswild: My boot locks up if I don't boot with those options
[06:49] <Lymies> Jordan_U, /usr/bin/perl: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.6.8, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), stripped
[06:49] <Lymies> no symlink
[06:49] <Jordan_U> Lymies: That's really odd
[06:49] <[mbm]> iain: and from your wireless connection can you ping anything 192.168.2.* ?
[06:50] <SeaOfTea> gigel2006: you should be able to actually through system -> administration -> hardware drivers
[06:50] <gigel2006> SeaOfTea: ok , im going to try it
[06:50] <iain> [mbm]: On any other box, yeah
[06:50] <SeaOfTea> give it a shot
[06:51] <Vastlee> What is the linux command to go up a directory.  i.e. cd.. in windows
[06:51] <Jordan_U> Vastlee: cd ..
[06:51] <[mbm]> iain: I'm guessing that besidess a wireless connection, that machine also has an ethernet connection?
[06:51] <SeaOfTea> lol
[06:51] <Vastlee> Oh you need a space, got it
[06:51] <chuckmoney> Vastlee: you can also do cd ../ just to be sure but yeah, cd .. works.
[06:51] <SeaOfTea> rofl, (01:51:01 AM) Vastlee: What is the linux command to go up a directory.  i.e. cd.. in windows
[06:52] <iain> [mbm]: Yeah, but it isn't connected to anything
[06:52] <iain> Oh, crap, I just thought of something:
[06:52] <Vastlee> I never put a space in there in windows, wasn't used to it
[06:52] <deuceswild> Vastlee: that got me too
[06:52] <[mbm]> iain: if the ethernet connection still has an ip address, the computer will become confused about which device to use
[06:52] <deuceswild> I made an alias for it though
[06:52] <eric> HOw do i install flashplayer on ubuntu 8.04 ?
[06:53] <iain> When I installed from the alternate CD, it asked for network setup info, and I gave it a static IP address, because that's what I used under 8.04.  But nm-applet has been assigning it an IP address from the DHCP pool.
[06:53] <Songwind> I need to make an "ls" alias for my Windows workstation in the office and save myself some grief.
[06:53] <chuckmoney> SeaOfTea: don't make fun of him.  The difference between "I didn't know I needed a space" and "I don't know how to disable madwifi" is a very small one
[06:53] <deuceswild> Songwind, have you used powershell?
[06:53] <iain> Sure enough, 'ifconfig eth0' shows that static IP address.
[06:53] <Vastlee> Eric, I went to adobe's site and they actually had a download for the package installer
[06:53] <Vastlee> Made it very easy
[06:53] <FuLio> Vastlee, Alright ty
[06:54] <iain> How can I get rid of that setting?
[06:54] <netdur> help, samba shares can see each others but can't access shared files
[06:54] <SeaOfTea> I'm not making fun of him, its just ironic that the answer was in the question
[06:54] <[mbm]> iain: ifdown eth0, then edit /etc/network/interfaces and remove the eth0 section
[06:54] <Songwind> deuce:  I just noticed it got installed via SMS sometime this week, but I haven't really used it much yet.
[06:54] <deuceswild> you should try it out
[06:54] <Songwind> I did use it long enough to know that it doesn't have "grep" :)
[06:54] <chuckmoney> eric: you can drop to a terminal and run "sudo apt-get install flashplayer-nonfree" and that should do it.  you may also need libflashsupport, but usually that's not needed.
[06:55] <deuceswild> really? I thought it would have an alias built in to the equivilant
[06:55] <thanakrit> hi
[06:55] <fuxxy> Is North America NTSC sample rate 32000 Hz? I 'm getting an error in mythbackend log "2008-11-15 00:54:45.507 MPEGRec(/dev/v4l/video0) Warning: Audio sample rate 32000 Hz is not supported by ivtv driver, using 48000 Hz instead."
[06:55] <Songwind> Not that I noticed.  I am pretty used to findstr now.  I generally only grep once per windows session nowadays. :)
[06:55] <Jordan_U> Lymies: Is there anything before "use" ?
[06:56] <Lymies> Jordan_U, nope
[06:56] <iain> [mbm]: Do I need to run a command after that to register the change?
[06:56] <chuckmoney> fuxxy: nope.  you either need 11500Hz, 24000, or 48000.
[06:56] <Jordan_U> Lymies: How did you install perl?
[06:56] <Lymies> Jordan_U, it runs fine if i use 'perl /usr/local/bin/flac2mp3.pl' but just not if i use 'flac2mp3.pl'
[06:56] <[mbm]> iain: no; the ifdown part was to make it forget the eth0 settings, editing the file is just so it doesn't reapply then on a reboot
[06:56] <iain> RT
[06:57] <iain> OK*
[06:57] <chuckmoney> Lymies: you need to add PERL as the interperater to the first line of the script itself
[06:57] <fuxxy> chuckmoney, I'm assuming I set that in the myth frontend. Know where specificlally?
[06:57] <iain> I can ping my router now, but can't tracepath it.  Why would that be?
[06:57] <Debolaz> Hmm, an application is segfaulting, but I'm not getting any coredumps for it. It's not a setuid, it's my (writable) directory it's being run in.. Is there any particular reason I'd not get a core dump?
[06:57] <Lymies> chuckmoney, the first line of the script is #!/usr/bin/perl -w
[06:57] <Xial> I don't quite know how to describe this. I just reflexively pressed win+R to run something, and now my screen is moving around when I move the mouse. Tapping escape doesn't make it stop, and pressing the same keys again does not help. What did I just break?
[06:57] <Jordan_U> Lymies: You aren't running ". flac2mp3" are you?
[06:58] <Lymies> Nope. I'm running flac2mp3.pl
[06:58] <[mbm]> fuxxy: most audio cards require 44.1Khz or 48Khz so the software converts .. the original 32Khz comes from whatever source material you used
[06:58] <picachu> QUESTION ~ Say I want to install Hardy, is there a way I don't have to go through installing all the updates? Like, get a more recent CD? Not Intrepid?
[06:58] <chuckmoney> Lymies: no clue why it would be failing then, since those commands are basically one and the same.  try checking your $path and see if one of the other locations listed first also has perl in it
[06:58] <chuckmoney> fuxxy: not that I know of, I run the standard ubuntu desktop, not myth.
[06:58] <Songwind> Xial:  like it's on a cube?
[06:59] <Songwind> Xial:  try right-clicking?
[06:59] <Jordan_U> Lymies: As a test to see that the #! line isn't being ignored replace /user/bin/perl -w with /bin/cat, when you "run" your script it should simply print itself
[06:59] <[mbm]> iain: can you ping something outside your router (google?)
[06:59] <chuckmoney> fuxxy: though if it doing it at 48000 for you automatically, you can safely ignore the error.  32000 may just be the frew of your input source, so maybe you can't change it anyway.
[07:00] <fuxxy> chuckmoney, LiveTV recording profile is set to 48000, but there's a note tht says "btaudio may only allow 32000"
[07:00] <Xial> Songwind: Not like a cube, but more like a picture that's been zoomed in upon and is panning. Right-click on the desktop had no effect other than to open a menu offering to change backgrounds.
[07:00] <iain> [mbm]: Yes, but I again can't tracepath it.
[07:00] <[mbm]> iain: wouldn't worry too much about the tracepath then
[07:00] <Songwind> Xial:  ah, you changed viewport size.
[07:01] <iain> [mbm]: OK
[07:01] <iain> [mbm]: I really appreciate your help.
[07:01] <[mbm]> iain: np.
[07:01] <Vastlee> I'm trying to create this samba share, and in the documentation I need root rights to edit my fstab, naturally I can't save the file after editing it.  So how do I give myself root rights?
[07:01] <chuckmoney> fuxxy: ignore that.  it's just saying your bluetooth input or output may not run at a full 48k.  again, audio systems like that, especially bluetooth, are made to shift automatically on the fly.  you can ignore it.
[07:01] <[mbm]> Vastlee: sudo
[07:01] <fuxxy> chuckmoney, ok.
[07:02] <iain> OK, on the the next problem :P
[07:02] <Vastlee> I was editing this file with gedit, is it possible to do it from there?
[07:02] <fuxxy> chuckmoney, I've got a PVR150, I would assume the pvr150 would record at 48000 hz sample rate natively.
[07:02] <chuckmoney> fuxxy: worst case your sound will just barely sound a little degraded, best case it's just a warning and your bluetooth can do 48k fine.  either way, it's not worth trying to fix...if it even can be fixed.
[07:02] <[mbm]> Vastlee: although with ubuntu you don't need to edit the samba file, you can just right click on folders and share them
[07:02] <iain> Metacity segfaults, so I have no WM.  What might cause this?
[07:03] <Vastlee> Ahh that's good news.  Thanks mbm
[07:03] <Neurologic> I'm looking for a few opinions, of some very useful/'gotta-have' type of applications available through the package manager?
[07:04] <Xial> Songwind: Okay. I think I figured it out. It stopped sliding and being blurry, which helps.
[07:04] <iain> Neurologic: why would you install something just because someone else can't live without it?
[07:04] <Songwind> Xial: Cool.  I never use that feature so I was trying to figure out how to turn it off :)
[07:04] <woody86> Would there be any differences between the way Kubuntu and Ubuntu work that would make one better to run on a 64bit dual-core AMD?
[07:05] <Xial> Songwind: Strangely, all I did was an alt-tab, and it just blinked.
[07:05] <Jordan_U> iain: Is there any output from "metacity --replace" before it segfaults ?
[07:05] <[mbm]> iain: just run metacity again to restart the WM .. if you're really interested in why it crashed you can gdb it
[07:05] <Neurologic> iain, Not really for me, just told a friend to get Ubuntu, and she wanted some applications to try out, I told her "Ubuntu starts with most anything you really 'need' but...I'll look around"
[07:05] <chuckmoney> Neurologic: Thunderbird, Gossip, X-Chat, Banshee.  Beyond that I mainly just use the default apps.  Tilda, if it works with your graphics card and you do a lot of console work.  Maybe WINE if you need to run basic windows programs.  Hmm...not much else.
[07:05] <badfish69> how do i kill all instances of terminal?
[07:05] <Neurologic> chuckmoney, A lot of the same things I thought too, thanks =)
[07:06] <chuckmoney> badfish69: drop to a terminal and run "killall gnome-termi9nal"
[07:06] <[mbm]> badfish69: figure out the name of the terminal (like gnome-terminal) and then: killall gnome-terminal ?
[07:06] <Vastlee> To share a folder after installing Samba, do I just right click - properties - permissions and change the group to sambashare?
[07:06] <chuckmoney> badfish69: what [mbm] said :)
[07:06] <[mbm]> Vastlee: thought it was right clikc -> sharing options .. not on a ubuntu machien right now to check
[07:07] <iain> Jordan_U: No.  With or without --replace, it just says "segmentation fault".  There's not even a flicker of a WM trying to show up.
[07:07] <iain> Neurologic: then: Kobo Deluxe is a fun game
[07:07] <Vastlee> I didn't see sharing options when I did a right click on the folder
[07:07] <badfish69> ty
[07:07] <Vastlee> Maybe I don't have Samba setup right?
[07:07] <chuckmoney> Vastlee: yeah, it's just Sharing Options
[07:07] <[mbm]> Vastlee: you might need to log in again afeter installing samba
[07:07] <Neurologic> iain, alright =)
[07:07] <Vastlee> k will try thanks
[07:07] <nomad77> !swat | Vastlee
[07:07] <chuckmoney> Vastlee: and it should prompt you to install samba the first time you try to share one if you don't already have samba installed.
[07:09] <my_haz> when using the live cd, where is the hardisk mounted?
[07:09] <chuckmoney> Neurologic: If she wants a fun game you could also suggest Freeciv.  It's the only 2D thing I've ever sank 7 hours of my life into per play
[07:10] <prosthetics> hey guys
[07:10] <Neurologic> chuckmoney, lol! I will then, though thunderbird? Not a fan of Evolution?
[07:10] <prosthetics> many around at the moment?
[07:10] <Star568> hi all, may i have suggestion how to partation a 16 G flash drive for USB startup?
[07:10] <chuckmoney> my_haz: /media/disk maybe?  Not sure.  Everything should be mounted under /media or /mnt.  You can just run "mount" in terminal and it'll tell you.
[07:10] <[mbm]> my_haz: probably isn't mounted, but if it is it'll be in /media
[07:10] <prosthetics> Star, u running linux or windows?
[07:10] <prosthetics> windows: use the hpo format utility
[07:10] <Star568> linux
[07:10] <prosthetics> linux: no idea :/
[07:10] <prosthetics> solaris i can tell you as well :)
[07:10] <picachu> Star568:  5GB for Ubuntu, 1GB for Swap, the rest for /home
[07:11] <my_haz> [mbm]: so how would i dd (as in disk destroy) it ?
[07:11] <prosthetics> picachu, he still needs to make it bootable
[07:11] <ubd> i have a 1 port ethernet adsl modem, it is a zyxel 660r, i coected a netgear ap to it. i have 2 laptops but one of them frequetly disconnects (actually does not disconnect but receive nothing when the other laptop is used) is not it possible to use 1 port modem with two pcs
[07:11] <Jordan_U> Star568: Do you want to make a bootable Ubuntu install?
[07:11] <chuckmoney> Neurologic: Not so much against evolution as for Thunderbird.  I don't use most of the groupware-centric stuff in Evolution and I use Gossip instead of Pidgin so it makes more sense to run Thunderbird with Lightning.  Smaller, faster, everything I need, nothing I don't.
[07:12] <my_haz> ubd: not directly, not like if you had a router
[07:12] <[mbm]> my_haz: figure out the name of the device you want to destroy and then read the dd man page :)
[07:12] <prosthetics> Guys, i havent run my ubuntu in a while, are ati drivers for 48xx series working nowadays?
[07:12] <Jordan_U> Star568: In 8.10 you can just go to System > Administration > Create USB Startup Disk
[07:12] <iain> Ooh, I figured it out.  Updated apt now that I'm online, and reinstalled metacity and metacity-common.
[07:13] <Neurologic> chuckmoney, hmm, good point
[07:13] <Jordan_U> Lymies: Still there?
[07:13] <chuckmoney> ubd: Indeed, as my_haz says, if you have only a wireless AP, not a Wireless ROuter, then the only way to service both laptops would be to either buy a router, or else add a second wireless card to one laptop and use it as a bridge for the other laptop.,
[07:13] <my_haz> [mbm]: so what you suggest for a the REGEX for  `dmesg | grep REGEX` should be?
[07:13] <[mbm]> ubd: if you paid for multiple ip addresses, you can plug an ethernet switch into the adsl, otherwise go buy a 'cable/dsl router' and plug that in .. that will only use on adsl ip address
[07:13] <Star568> jordan: my question is 16G for fat32 will waste a lot space
[07:14] <[mbm]> my_haz: the first disk is usually /dev/sda and the first partition on that disk is /dev/sda1
[07:14] <CjMaster> Quick questions: I know that lots of applications and files slows down windows, but does it slow down ubuntu?
[07:14] <ubd> my_haz, i checked from the modem (is also a router/gateway i think) laptops healthly gets seperate ip like 192.168.1.3 and .4  ap get 192 168.1.2 and the gateway 168.1.1
[07:14] <my_haz> [mbm]: ok i will try that
[07:14] <ubd> i dot see any problem here
[07:14] <picachu> CjMaster: What do you mean? You mean having them just installed, or running all those applications?
[07:15] <CjMaster> Installed
[07:15] <Jordan_U> my_haz: Be careful though, you don't want to destroy the wrong disk :)
[07:15] <Star568> picachu: what's the next step to do when i boot up with the USB drive?
[07:15] <my_haz> Jordan_U: hehe
[07:15] <my_haz> ok wish me luck
[07:15] <chuckmoney> my_haz: yes, and if that fails, check /dev/hda.  Older drives (like really old IDE drives) will sometimes be /dev/hda.  any new drive - SATA or SCSI - will be /dev/sda
[07:15] <[mbm]> my_haz: why are you dd'ing the drive ?
[07:15] <picachu> CjMaster: no, it won't slow Ubuntu down.
[07:15] <iain> my_haz: be sure to grok the bs option in the man page, or it will take forever.
[07:15] <my_haz> [mbm]: because i want to destroy the data so that its fresh
[07:16] <my_haz> iain: bs=1 ?
[07:16] <chuckmoney> my_haz: but /dev/hda will often be your CD drive too so only look for /dev/hda if you have no /dev/sda
[07:16] <[mbm]> my_haz: just reinstalling or are you going to sell the drive?
[07:16] <my_haz> [mbm]: i am giving the drive away
[07:16] <[mbm]> my_haz: if you're just reinstalling you don't actually need to wipe the drive; if you're giving the drive away you may want to use /dev/urandom as a source when dd'ing
[07:16] <chuckmoney> my_haz: may I suggest using dban?
[07:17] <picachu> Hey...... how can I plugin my USB drive from Live CD? It doesn't show on desktop, not even on nautilus sidebar
[07:17] <Star568> picachu: do i need to "install ubuntu" when the USB bootup screen show up? will it install it on my USB drive only ?
[07:17] <chuckmoney> my_haz: Derik's Boot & Nuke.  the most utterly simple way to wipe any drive make-the-NSA-work-overtime clean.
[07:18] <iain> my_haz: 1M or larger, although IIRC too large can cause problems.
[07:18] <iain> but (IIRC) the default is to process only 4k at a time or something
[07:18] <picachu> Star568:  Sorry, I have never installed to USB before. Someone said you install from ... System->... something.
[07:18]  * [mbm] notes that dding a drive is also a way to fix remapped sectors that show up in the SMART diagnostics
[07:19] <my_haz> chuckmoney: is dban its onw bootable?
[07:19] <iain> my_haz: For most uses, you can wipe the partition tables and save a lot of time.  If you're trying to erase confidential data, dd may not be secure enough (or it may), in which case research DBAN.
[07:19] <chuckmoney> picachu: you may have to plug in your drive BEFORE you boot from the CD for it to be detected.
[07:19] <vastlee> Man, next time a newb like me asks about Samba shares you guys should just tell them to search for Samba in the Add/Remove thing.  That gui in there did it all for me.  Thanks for all the help though guys, it works great.
[07:19] <my_haz> there is nothing on the drive the NSA would give to **** about, i am just being careful
[07:19] <chuckmoney> my_haz: yes, it fits on a single floppy but they have a 10MB ISO image available.
[07:19] <picachu> chuckmoney:  It's a drive that I use as if it was internal: its always plugged in
[07:20] <[mbm]> iain: if you overwrite the drive with a known value like /dev/zero then the minor variations from 0 can be used to recover the old data .. if you use a random source then it's not likely to be recovered
[07:20] <my_haz> dd will be secure enough for this
[07:20] <my_haz> thanks all
[07:21] <chuckmoney> picachu: well...just use the desktop installer icon and when it asks you to pick a drive be sure you pick your USB one.  if it's not a choice, then ask again.
[07:21] <[mbm]> any recovery of a dd'd drive will involve taking the disk apart and reading the magnetic strength on the surface of the disk, so even a /dev/zero is enough in most cases
[07:21] <picachu> chuckmoney:  I don't want to isntall to USB, I just want to edit a file in it
[07:22] <hsarkar> need some help regarding cron
[07:22] <picachu> type    man cron   ?  ^^;
[07:22]  * [mbm] wonders if any data recovery services deal with SSD's yet
[07:23] <herb> hsarkar: ask your question
[07:23] <iain> chuckmoney: If it fits on a floppy why is the ISO 10M?
[07:23] <iain> [mbm]: OK.  For a random source, is DD faster than DBAN?  For a large drive, at least DBAN has a progress bar, which is helpfus psychologically.
[07:23] <vastlee> Could anyone suggest a good file sync program?  I'd like to sync any new files I get with my usb drive.  I need one with a fairly simple gui since I'm special
[07:24] <hsarkar> http://pastebin.com/m6dd8caa0
[07:24] <kindofabuzz> rsync
[07:24] <chuckmoney> iain: I think they have to do some extra stuff for floppy emulation
[07:24] <hsarkar> I am running above script in using cron
[07:24] <[mbm]> iain: maybe, not sure what dban does .. most of the secure delete utils overwrite several times .. as for the progress bar, a dd variant called dd_rescue will show you the byte offset and speed
[07:24] <vastlee> That's a command line program though isn't it?
[07:24] <hsarkar> but the lines containing httrack dosent get executed
[07:24] <kindofabuzz> yeah, you're on linux, you should be learning all the cli you can
[07:24] <kindofabuzz> makes things even faster
[07:24] <chuckmoney> iain: and DBAN is faster at a standard 3-pass all0-'s than DD.  faster by far, mainly because of the lack of overhead from having to run a kernel, much less a full desktop.
[07:24] <[mbm]> kindofabuzz: not sure that's true anymore
[07:25] <vastlee> I certainly hope not.  If Linux wants to actually contend with an MS operating system it's going to have to continue to make strides in being idiot (me) proof.
[07:25] <herb> hsarkar: is httrack in your path? perhaps setting the path explicitly in the script would work for you.
[07:26] <kindofabuzz> [mbm], sure it is, yes ubuntu made things easier for newcomers, but the cli is still faster than opening gui's and doing things, as long as you know the commands
[07:26] <hsarkar> yes
[07:26] <euxneks> vastlee, there has been more progress in that area in the last year than microsoft has done in the past decade
[07:26] <hsarkar> I can execute the script manually from command line
[07:26] <vastlee> I agree completely, but Linux still has a long way to go.  I'm doing my best but 90% of the Linux stuff is still completely greek to me
[07:26] <kindofabuzz> !rsync | vastlee
[07:26] <[mbm]> kindofabuzz: while it's true you can do anything via the commandline, and often faster than the gui, I don't believe learning the cli is required for using ubuntu .. if someone asks for help with something like changing the resolution, there's a control panel for that .. telling them to edit xorg.conf directly is just going to scare them away from linux
[07:26] <euxneks> vastlee, it gets easier :)
[07:27] <hsarkar> herb: path is not a problem, as I have exported its path
[07:27] <kindofabuzz> [mbm], i didn't tell them to just use the cli, i just said rsync is what they want
[07:27] <euxneks> [mbm], you can't deny that a lot more options open up with CLI
[07:27] <vastlee> Encouraging :)
[07:27] <iain> [mbm]: AFAIK, DBAN is configurable how paranoid it is (can do a single overwrite), but its useful because it has an option for doing a DOD-compliant wipe, which is required in some branches of gov't
[07:27] <herb> hsarkar: try setting path in the script or use the full path... also to help you debug you can set the first line to bash -x which might expose the issue while running with cron.
[07:27] <hsarkar> rsync works fine
[07:27] <chuckmoney> kindofabuzz: AFAIK, an average user can run Ubuntu without ever touching a console.  Openoffice, Firefox, Evolution, etc, can all be operated 24/7 without use of a CLI.  If you want to start tinkering with samba then you're running a server, and anyone who goes bonkers when they open a console shouldn't be running an open deamon on their system anyway.
[07:27] <Jordan_U> Lymies: Still there?
[07:27]  * [mbm] loves the commandline, but at the same tiem I know that many people associate that with an era that passed long ago and are absolutely scared of it
[07:28] <chuckmoney> kindofabuzz: but honestly, no, CLI isn't manditory for Joe Deskclerk.
[07:28] <euxneks> vastlee, pretty much because of the way Linux is built, if you have a problem it's solvable - I find it very hard to claim the same with Windows or MacOSX
[07:28] <hsarkar> herb: where will cron logs appear in /var/log/cron ?
[07:28] <Hotshot`> anyone here have any knowledge of wubi?
[07:28] <euxneks> vastlee, OSS for the win :)
[07:28] <kindofabuzz> lol Joe Deskclerk
[07:28] <vastlee> I am actually a big fan of the entire community.  I personally think the Linux/Ubuntu community is one of the strongest testaments that altruism still exists in humans.
[07:28] <herb> hsarkar: yes.  you can set a mail to in the cron itself so it'll mail output to an account, if you want.
[07:29] <euxneks> vastlee, well that can be argued on philosophical grounds but yes, there is a lot of help out there for ubuntu users :)
[07:29] <hsarkar> herb: ok will try that
[07:29] <euxneks> :D
[07:29] <herb> Hotshot`: what would you like to know?
[07:29] <[mbm]> iain: dod doesn't wipe their disks, they put them through an industrial sized shredder and grind it down to metal fragments
[07:29] <Hotshot`> herb,  i decided to fully upgrade my ubuntu to a real partition
[07:29] <[mbm]> that's just how paranoid they are
[07:29] <Hotshot`> and found out about LVPM
[07:30] <Hotshot`> and i have no idea if its supported for 8.10
[07:30] <Hotshot`> herb, LVPM has been tested on installs created by Wubi 8.04, Wubi 7.10, Wubi 7.04, and Lubi 7.04.
[07:30] <Hotshot`> thats what it says on their page
[07:30] <euxneks> [mbm], I have a friend who works in a digital forensics lab and he says there isn't much you can do in terms of software to prevent someone from getting data from your drive
[07:30] <Hotshot`> http://lubi.sourceforge.net/lvpm.html
[07:31] <euxneks> [mbm], physics of magnets and all that :D
[07:31] <kindofabuzz> vastlee, found you a rsync gui, it's called grsync, it's in the repos
[07:31] <chuckmoney> iain and [mbm]: actually, military personel are often given laptops that they can take home with them and use off base, etc.  They use DBAN (like actual DBAN, not something that'd their own dban-equiv) to clean those laptops before re-installing a default disk image to them.  I live near the Air Force ROTC base that handles most of the Air Force's web site stuff and yeah, for their take-home laptops, they specifically use DB
[07:31] <chuckmoney> AN
[07:31] <grendal_prime> anyone know of a chess engine i can get for my kid.  hes 5 wants to play chess all the time..but he never gets to win beacuse the engins are all whipping the crap out of him..i want to get him an engine i can gear up  after he has beatten it a few times.
[07:32] <vastlee> Thanks Chief, will check it out
[07:32] <herb> Hotshot`: I haven't used lvpm before.  I suspect that it'll work fine with 8.10 just like it does with 8.04.  but I can't be sure.
[07:32] <kindofabuzz> why not just by a chess board and let him beat you?
[07:32] <eydaimon> grendal_prime: why an engine? there's plenty of people to play with online
[07:32] <kindofabuzz> buy*
[07:32] <Jordan_U> euxneks: A strong degaussing coil does the trick nicely :)
[07:32] <Hotshot`> herb,  im just afraid if it messes up
[07:32] <chuckmoney> grendal_prime: don't think there is one, since most chess engines are coded to be...well...hard.  you can try GNOME Chess and see if he can beat it on the easiest setting.
[07:32] <euxneks> Jordan_U, or a microwave probably :D
[07:32] <grendal_prime> i thought i could do that with crafty but well... eydaimon you missed the part about him being 5.
[07:32] <Hotshot`> i have done a lot of customizing in my ubuntu
[07:33] <Jordan_U> euxneks: Thermite too
[07:33] <euxneks> Jordan_U, or you could bring it to your local weather radar :)
[07:33] <Hotshot`> anyways ill give it a go.
[07:33] <Hotshot`> ill brb
[07:33] <herb> Hotshot`: stick around for a bit. maybe someone else will have input on lvpm.
[07:34] <[mbm]> euxneks: more or less true, but you can make it really really hard to recover
[07:34] <Hotshot`> herb,
[07:34] <Hotshot`> http://lubi.sourceforge.net/lvpm-screenshots/use/1.png
[07:34] <Hotshot`> it appears that i can just transfer
[07:35] <Hotshot`> if the transfer doesnt work
[07:35] <Hotshot`> then ill just wait for an official 8.10 build
[07:35] <herb> Hotshot`: you should be able to move to file off to another disk if nothing else, yes.
[07:35] <chuckmoney> euxneks: yanno, you could run the drive through dban scramble, then dban o, and then finally spend $29 on the curiously strong rare earth magnets from thinkgeek, and I'd be willing to bet your friend in the lab wouldn't find anything by next christmas.  Hard drives are actually a lot more susceptable than you might think.
[07:36] <[mbm]> chuckmoney: the really secure stuff they grind up the drive
[07:36] <chuckmoney> euxneks: I have a cell phone with a very weak magnet that holds the keyboard on it.  it once killed 30 sectors in a laptop drive - with the laptop drive powered off inside the laptop.
[07:36] <Hotshot`> yeah thanks a lot herb :)
[07:36] <herb> Hotshot`: loopback files can also be mounted in ubuntu.  so you *could* convert the machine to ubuntu and mount the file to copy over all your customisations.
[07:37] <herb> mount -o loop <filename> <mountpoint>
[07:37] <karab44> Hi what's best with C++ ? Code::Blocks, Anjuta or Eclipse ?
[07:37] <Hotshot`> ill be right, booting into puppy linux live CD to change my partitions
[07:37] <euxneks> chuckmoney, I think you would be correct about the magnet part :)
[07:37] <Hotshot`> ill keep you updated herb
[07:37] <[mbm]> chuckmoney: the stonge the magnet, the smaller the magnetic field is
[07:37] <herb> Hotshot`: good luck.
[07:37] <Hotshot`> ty :)
[07:38] <jerbear> what package contains rgb.txt and how do i reinstall it?
[07:38] <euxneks> chuckmoney, I think there was some software solutions that you could use to prevent them from accessing your data, but it's hard enough that not many people do it. :)
[07:38] <Flannel> jerbear: dpkg -S /path/to/rgb.txt
[07:38] <[mbm]> chuckmoney: those rare earth magnets probably won't do much sitting outside the drive, they'd need to be closer to the disk surface
[07:39] <euxneks> chuckmoney, most of the harddrives he has to actually get information from are pedophiles and sickos like that
[07:39] <[mbm]> euxneks: bet he has an interesting porn collection
[07:39] <chuckmoney> euxneks: try truecrypt.  it's fairly easy and will do "whole disk" encryption (i.e. even the OS itself) and looks like random noise until you decrypt it.  the better solution to scrambling a working drive is starting the drive off scrambled from the beginning :P
[07:40] <euxneks> in any case he comes to D&D with some fairly interesting stories :D
[07:40] <SeaOfTea> Syndaemon is great and all but I use <super>+scrolling for different short cuts.  Has anyone figured out a way to just disable tapping while typing?
[07:40] <[mbm]> chuckmoney: yes, but slows down access to the drive and the encryption can be broken given enough time and a brute force
[07:41] <jerbear> ummm... this is strange... x11-common installs /usr/share/X11/rgb.txt which is a symlink to /etc/X11/rgb.txt, which doesn't appear to be contained in any package. either way that symlink is broken on my system (intrepid)
[07:41] <chuckmoney> chuckmoney: whole disk AES-twofish-serpent takes around 12,000 years.  2,400 if you have a very large grid working in tandem.  a subpoena would be much more effective :P
[07:41] <simon_b2> anyone knows how to disable power saving on usb?
[07:41] <[mbm]> chuckmoney: there have been a few interesting cases where the encryption key was recovered from memory after the computer was turned off
[07:41] <Ryno> just installed nvidia driver, cant see anything now
[07:41] <chuckmoney> wow...not sure why I just told myself that
[07:42] <chuckmoney> [mbm]: yes but that requires literally freezing the ram within about 45 seconds.
[07:42] <jerbear> anyone else missing /etc/X11/rgb.txt?
[07:42] <Jordan_U> Ryno: White screen?
[07:42] <Dany> ciao a tutti
[07:42] <Dany> !list
[07:42] <Ryno> bbblack
[07:42] <chuckmoney> [mbm]: as in coated in ice freezing, not as in BSOD freezing
[07:42] <kafle> hey, i'm trying to run the command 'chroot .' but it fails saying that /bin/bash does not exist. Can anyone please tell me why
[07:43] <Ryno> still get to the login, and can get in blind, but visually...nothin
[07:43] <nomad77> SeaOfTea: http://linuxchronicles.wordpress.com/2008/06/24/ubuntu-disable-touchpad-while-typing/ there's also ubuntu-forum posts
[07:43] <[mbm]> chuckmoney: yep, can of duster upsidedown to freeze the ram and the contents will stay there for 30 min or more
[07:43] <Jordan_U> kafle: Does the directory you are in contain bin/dash ?
[07:43] <chuckmoney> just wondering if anyone else here has an ASUS EEE 901...the custom kernel for it from Array.org somehow won't work with SHMConfig
[07:44] <[mbm]> chuckmoney: of course there are other tricks too like grabbing a copy of ram over firewire
[07:45] <haxeri> huomenta
[07:45] <chuckmoney> [mbm]: also they found that at random the key goes into SWAP space and/or the pagefile.  Good reason to just buy more ram :)
[07:45] <jerbear> i'm seeing the same behavior as this: http://ph.ubuntuforums.com/showthread.php?p=6020629
[07:45] <jerbear> it seems odd that /etc/X11/rgb.txt would just disappear
[07:45] <chuckmoney> [mbm]: I agree it's not perfect but truecrypt is about as close to perfect as anyone outside the NSA can probably get :P
[07:45] <Hotshot`> ok herb, i created the partitions
[07:45] <Hotshot`> starting the LVPM transfer now
[07:46] <herb> Hotshot`: excellent.
[07:46] <SeaOfTea> nomad77: That kind of the what I was saying already.  I tried syndaemon but it disables button 2-5 so none of my shortcuts work.  I just want to disable tapping, not scrolling or mouse movement or the middle or right buttons.
[07:47] <[mbm]> chuckmoney: I'd argue it's better to have several encrypted partitions rather than one whole disk encryption; leave the partitions unmounted when you aren't using them so even if some keys are recovered it's not the entire drive
[07:47] <[mbm]> chuckmoney: also think that luks under linux does just as good of a job as truecrypt
[07:48] <chuckmoney> [mbm]: have you read about the way truecrypt hides a partition within a partition.  provides plausable deniability.  works great when you mount /home/yourname inside the hidden partition :)
[07:48] <mboman> ﻿Got problem getting Ant picking up classes (jgoodies) in my /usr/share/java directory that has been installed by apt on my Ubuntu 8.04 machine.
[07:48] <kafle> Jordan_U: no, should it?
[07:48] <nomad77> SeaOfTea: maybe this?  http://ge.ubuntuforums.com/showthread.php?p=6077364 bout midway down
[07:49] <[mbm]> chuckmoney: one interesting quirk of truecrypt (and probably luks) is that the passphrase is within the first 1M of the partition
[07:49] <jerbear> where in the hell is /etc/X11/rgb.txt? how could such an obvious screwup make it into intrepid?
[07:50] <[mbm]> chuckmoney: which means that an IT department can setup truecrypt with a known passphrase, backup the fist 1M of data; let the user change the passphrase -- all IT has to do then is replace the first 1M and it's back to the original passphrase
[07:51] <SeaOfTea> jerbear: 8.10 is way different, it relies on HAL.  Though I'm not sure this answers your question.
[07:51] <nomad77> jerbear: in hardy its here  /usr/share/X11
[07:51] <Ryno> help, after i enabled nvidia driver i get blank screen after reboot
[07:51] <jerbear> nomad77: no, it's a symlink to /etc/X11/rgb.txt, which is gone
[07:51] <abayomi> #join Nagios
[07:51] <chuckmoney> [mbm]: that would break the drive.  any data encrypted after the user changed his passphrase and before it reset it would be unreadable.
[07:51] <Jordan_U_> jerbear: Have you filed a bug report?
[07:52] <Jordan_U_> kafle: If you are trying to run a shell in the chroot ( which is the default if you don't specify a command to run ) then it should
[07:52] <not0ne> Can i work with apache2 on a dev. server without internet connexion ?
[07:52] <[mbm]> chuckmoney: nope, you don't understand what's actually happening
[07:52] <jerbear> Jordan_U_: i haven't
[07:52] <abayomi> #Nagios
[07:53] <[mbm]> chuckmoney: the passphrase isn't used to protect the data, it's used to protect a very long key; once you have that key, the passphrase is irrlevent
[07:53] <Jordan_U> jerbear: Please do ( unless one has already been filed )
[07:53] <nomad77> jerbear: actaully its symlinked to /etc/X11/rgb.txt
[07:53] <[mbm]> chuckmoney: if you don't believe me, try it yourself ;)
[07:53] <jerbear> nomad77: yes, that's exactly what i said
[07:53] <jerbear> nomad77: which is gone
[07:53] <not0ne> please : Can i work with apache2 on a dev. server without internet connexion ?
[07:54] <chuckmoney> [mbm]: the last time someone told me "you don't understand" I became the sole server admin at that job.  you don't know me but those words spell doom for everyone who utters them to me.  I'm open to learn but tread lightly.  and FYI I have tried it.  only works with basic any-idiot-could-crack-it-by-hand blowfish encryption.
[07:54] <nomad77> jerbear: if all else fails do an updatedb then locate -i rgb.txt. or bootup live-cd and copy to install
[07:55] <Jordan_U> jerbear: emacs-snapshot-common provides a "/usr/share/emacs/23.0.60/etc/rgb.txt"
[07:55] <jerbear> nomad77: i have. it's not there
[07:55] <chuckmoney> [mbm]: else, with AES, it breaks the data.  only wayn to recover it is to restore what the user set it to, save a diff of every change they made, re-set it to the original, then apply the diff.  it's a pain in the butt and I spent 9 hours unable to boot a $2800 laptop just to prove that to a friend of mine.
[07:55] <[mbm]> chuckmoney: the passphrase you type in is used to recover the key; the key is then used to encrypt/decrypt the data .. with a the backup you have the key and a known passphrase
[07:56] <Ryno> help, after i enabled nvidia driver i get blank screen after reboot
[07:56] <Build-A-Bear> eyah, i just updated nvidia, and now my highest rez is 640
[07:56] <Build-A-Bear> its supposed to be 1430
[07:56] <jerbear> Jordan_U, nomad77: i've used apt-file to search for any reference to rgb.txt... no package provides /etc/X11/rgb.txt. that sounds like a problem
[07:56] <abayomi> Help, I installed kubuntu and downloaded ubuntu gnome desktop environment
[07:56] <nomad77> Build-A-Bear: rerun nvidia-xconfig?
[07:57] <abayomi> everytime I switch to gnome the computer fan stops to roll
[07:57] <chuckmoney> [mbm]: correct, but only with blowfish.  truecrypt doesn't use that method with AES, DES, Serpent, or any combination thereof.
[07:57] <Jordan_U> jerbear: Possibly the path has just changed, x11-common provides "/usr/share/X11/rgb.txt"
[07:57] <abayomi> and that makes my computhoter
[07:57] <kazim59> I'm runnng 8.04. How do I update to 8.10?
[07:57] <jerbear> Jordan_U: yes, which is a symlink to /etc/X11/rgb.txt... which is gone
[07:57] <Jordan_U> !upgrade | kazim59
[07:58] <Jordan_U> jerbear: Ahh, sorry
[07:58] <chuckmoney> [mbm]: and it wouldn't work with a combo.  if it did, then you would gain zero additional security from using multiple ciphers.
[07:58] <nomad77> jerbear: afaik its part of xorg probly xorg-server
[07:58] <kazim59> Jordan_U: also, how are updates doing for other people? Success Rate?
[07:58] <jim_p> abayomi: there is some setting in some bioses for automatic control of the cpu fan. can you check that first?
[07:58] <abayomi> Help my computer fan is not working on ubuntu
[07:58] <jerbear> nomad77: according to the package contents, it's not
[07:58] <[mbm]> chuckmoney: I've seen the trick demonstrated, although I'm not sure which cypher was used .. was a few years ago
 Help my computer fan is not working on ubuntu <- he is die ?
[07:59] <chuckmoney> [mbm]: i.e. if the passphrase decoded the key, then using AES and Serpent both would provide no extra entrophy over just AES.  only with blowfish, where the security is from running several rounds of it, does the method you describe work, and that's the only time truecrypt uses it
[07:59] <nomad77> jerbear: then must be a freedesktop.org thing
[07:59] <abayomi> I'm a newbie jim
[07:59] <abayomi> How do I check the settings
[07:59] <jim_p> abayomi: lol. does this hapen in kde as well?
[07:59] <jerbear> nomad77: what? are you kidding?
[08:00] <abayomi> But it's working on kde
[08:00] <abayomi> I have both environment
[08:00] <[mbm]> chuckmoney: *shrug* all I know is that the IT department used to pull that trick for setting up employee laptops
[08:00] <jim_p> abayomi: its a dekstop, not laptop right?
[08:00] <abayomi> It's a laptop
[08:00] <nomad77> jerbear: i can pastebin mine be a minute
[08:00] <chuckmoney> [mbm]: by all means, send me a link if you have one.  if cracking AES-Serpent is as easy as you say then I have about 35 clients I need to call tomorrow and schedule a repair for.
[08:00] <jim_p> abayomi: then its some bugus module. can you give me some more info?
[08:01] <jerbear> nomad77: that's only a bandage... this is a bigger problem
[08:01] <Build-A-Bear> nomad77: no go
[08:01] <abayomi> Well the fan is not just working
[08:01] <lain_wired> If someone replied, I may have missed it, I was distracted.
[08:01] <[mbm]> chuckmoney: it's not a generic attack, it actually requires that you have a backup of the header that uses a known passphrase
[08:02] <lain_wired> So, my issue is that ubuntu (8.10) isn't automatically detecting the connection when the modem is turned on. I have to remove and then insert the ethernet cable before it responds.
[08:02] <[mbm]> chuckmoney: which means that you need a backup of each employee's machine to pull it off
[08:02] <jim_p> abayomi: but if i dont know what hardware is there, i cant thinnk of the module!
[08:02] <chuckmoney> [mbm]: understood, but that's not that hard to achieve.  a simple DD limiting it to 1MB and knowing the old passphrase, means when people change their passphrase once a month they're accomplishing nothing.
[08:03] <abayomi> ok
[08:03] <[mbm]> chuckmoney: exactly
[08:03] <SeaOfTea> zomg I'm going to pass out
[08:03] <abayomi> My computer is HP pavilion dv9000 series
[08:03] <chuckmoney> [mbm]: which is why if this is still a bug or is a bug in AES-Serpent I would really like to know, but I've only seen this with Blowfish back on Truecrypt 4.
[08:04] <abayomi> Intel centrino duo
[08:04] <nomad77> jerbear:  http://pastebin.com/d59a04613
[08:04] <jim_p> lain_wired: remove network manager piece of junk software and use that little gnome network applet
[08:04] <lain_wired> Hullo!
[08:04] <lain_wired> Just to check, anyone seeing this?
[08:04] <Ark3kGT> yeah
[08:04] <SeaOfTea> no
[08:05] <SeaOfTea> liar
[08:05] <Ark3kGT> haha
[08:05] <jim_p> abayomi: can you also check what "services" does kde start? and compare them to gnomes
[08:05] <abayomi> How do I do that
[08:05] <abayomi> ?
[08:06] <[mbm]> chuckmoney: http://www.truecrypt.org/faq.php ".. Is there a way for an administrator to reset a volume password or pre-boot .. "
[08:06] <chuckmoney> lain_wired: yes, we're seeing it, and jim_p gave you a somewhat less-than-elegant answer too.  basically, yes, you can try remobing the GNOME network-manager but from the sound of it your problem may be larger than that.
[08:06] <Build-A-Bear> this is whacky, compiz is working, but my rez is stuck on 640
[08:06] <Ark3kGT> Hey where can I get help for a ubuntu issue? here maybe or is there a room for that?
[08:06] <[mbm]> chuckmoney: seems to state exactly as I describe it
[08:06] <herb> Ark3kGT: we might be able to help.  what's the problem?
[08:07] <Flannel> Ark3kGT: There is, you're in it.
[08:07] <lain_wired> chuckmoney, ah, well I might try ... wait, is that a typo or an actual word?
[08:07] <jim_p> abayomi: check inside your ~/.kde/Autostart
[08:07] <chuckmoney> lain_wired: typo.  removing is the actual word
[08:08] <lain_wired> I thought it might be, just best to check. :D
[08:08] <[mbm]> chuckmoney: how about a "sorry" ? :)
[08:08] <Ark3kGT> Yeah I installed 8.10 a few days ago and everything went smoothly wireless still didn't work but thats usual. however during the installation load, I noticed that in order to load the os I had to hold down a key
[08:09] <ac> I'm having trouble getting my mic to work. Any tips? Honestly I'm not even sure I have a mic, though there is a rather suspitious looking hole in my laptop
[08:09] <chuckmoney> [mbm]: still reading.  you will get an apology when it is due :P
[08:09] <SeaOfTea> Ark3kGT: you can fix that
[08:09] <Ark3kGT> how?
[08:09] <Ark3kGT> please>
[08:09] <Ark3kGT> ?
[08:09] <ac> *suspicious
[08:10] <abayomi> there nothing there
[08:10] <Flannel> Ark3kGT: You only have to push the key for it to load during install?
[08:10] <Omar87> Raising the Elephants doesn't work with me, even though it seems enabled usable. Could this be a bug worth reporting? (NOTE: I'm on 8.10)
[08:10] <nomad77> ac: i think most are part of webcam video driver
[08:10] <abayomi> Do I have to boot kde to know that
[08:11] <Ark3kGT> and after the install I must hold the key to load the OS
[08:11] <lain_wired> chuckmoney, if I remove network-manager, won't I then be unable to connect?
[08:11] <SeaOfTea> Ark3kGT: gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.1st
[08:11] <lain_wired> ie, then unable to reinstall?
[08:11] <Omar87> enabled *AND* usable..
[08:11] <Jordan_U> Ark3kGT: What wireless chipset? Did you try System > Administration > Hardware Drivers?
[08:11] <jim_p> abayomi: no you can view it from gnome
[08:11] <ac> nomad77: my laptop does not have a camera
[08:11] <Flannel> Ark3kGT: Which key? and at what point of booting?
[08:11] <Ryno> black screened after nvidia drivers installed, help
[08:11] <chuckmoney> lain_wired: no, you can still connect.  removing network-manager simply removes the applet.  well...and it also disables "roaming mode"
[08:12] <abayomi> There is notthing in the directory
[08:12] <jim_p> abayomi: can you please do a         sudo modprobe speedstep_centrino  ?
[08:12] <Jordan_U> Ryno: Do you know how to go back to the nv driver?
[08:12] <nomad77> ac: i'd check the mfr's website for docs and/or driver info
[08:12] <chuckmoney> lain_wired: you might also want to try going to System > Administration > Network and change your ethernet adapter from "roaming mode" to "DHCP"
[08:12] <lain_wired> Hm, okay.
[08:12] <Jordan_U> Ryno: And how did you install the nvidia driver?
[08:12] <chuckmoney> lain_wired: then if that fails, remove network-manager.
[08:13] <ac> nomad77: do you really need a driver for a /microphone/?
[08:13] <Ark3kGT> My computer won't even load the OS unless I press a key on my keyboard and hold it down until the orange ubuntu loading line completes an entire cycle. This also happened with the installation CD, although my laptop was fine with Hardy
[08:13] <ac> nomad77: the sound works fine
[08:13] <nomad77> no idea then hmm
[08:13] <lain_wired> chuckmoney, just as a sidenote, it was set to loopback, rather than ethernet. I can't say I'm entirely sure why.
[08:13] <blackgraz> anyone know of a simple CLI program to transcode avi to DVD image file (bin)
[08:13] <Ryno> Jordan, long story short, i bricked my laptop earlier, all i had was 7.04, upgraded to 7.10, it picked up the nvidia onboard so i installed, rebooted and now black
[08:13] <Ark3kGT> My system:
[08:13] <Ark3kGT> HP Compaq Presario V6719NR Notebook PC
[08:13] <Ark3kGT> Amd64 Athlon X2
[08:13] <Ark3kGT> Nvidia Graphics
[08:13] <Ark3kGT> Atheros Wireless Card
[08:13] <FloodBot1> Ark3kGT: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:14] <Ark3kGT> sorry for the flood
[08:14] <SeaOfTea> Ark3kGT: try adding pci=noacpi to the end of kernel line
[08:14] <abayomi> Jim it works when I try to install some package
[08:14]  * SeaOfTea test
[08:15] <Ryno> so it prompted me saying restricted drivers can be used so i installed it
[08:15] <Ark3kGT> SeaOfTea: am the pinnacle of noob so I am kinda not understand
[08:15] <jim_p> abayomi: :| like when the cpu revs up its speed?
[08:15] <Jordan_U> Ryno: You can get to a terminal by pressing ctrl+alt+F1, from that terminal log in and run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh"
[08:15] <Ark3kGT> and wouldn't that have adverse affects
[08:15] <Iron_Blood> Hi all
[08:16] <jim_p> abayomi: please call me as jim_p , it makes my taskbar blink and me to look at xchat
[08:16] <Iron_Blood> Could I get someone default sources.list for 8.10 desktop edition. I mess up mine.
[08:16] <Iron_Blood> :(
[08:16]  * Debolaz ponders if he'll be able to play high resolution h264 in ubuntu.
[08:16] <[mbm]> Debolaz: nvidia card?
[08:17] <Debolaz> [mbm]: Yes.
[08:17] <[mbm]> Debolaz: you saw the press release earlier today?
[08:17] <Debolaz> [mbm]: No?
[08:17] <chuckmoney> [mbm]: Well...I stand partially corrected.  Apparently, for this to work, the Administrator has to use Truecrypt itself to backup the header, hence dd wouldn't work, and I'm willing to bet it will require the Administrator to enter the passphrase once to verify it too.  So yes, an IT guy could do this, but no, it's not an open vulnerability because you'd have to be able to successfully mount the truecrypt volume before you c
[08:17] <chuckmoney> ould copy the header.
[08:18] <[mbm]> Debolaz: it was on slashdot and a few other sites; nvidia has released a new api which rumor has it can do hardware h264 decoding
[08:18] <Debolaz> Interesting..
[08:18] <Debolaz> Still, most likely won't help me today.
[08:18] <[mbm]> chuckmoney: I've seen it done with dd :/
[08:18] <Debolaz> If I just could get CoreAVC to run.
[08:18] <chuckmoney> [mbm]: So...sorry, I guess.  I won't be calling clients but a few of them use other people to manage their work networks so I will certainly let them know to double-check what their other Techs are doing for them.
[08:19] <Debolaz> I've gotten to the point where xine-lib will try to load the decoder, but it just segfaults. Without even so much as a core file to look at.
[08:19] <Iron_Blood> Could I get someone get me the default /etc/apt/sources.list for 8.10 desktop edition. I mess up mine.
[08:19] <Jordan_U> Debolaz: Why are you using xine?
[08:20] <Debolaz> Jordan_U: Because I couldn't get mplayer to compile with the patch.
[08:20] <Debolaz> Jordan_U: I'm going to spend some time trying to get it to run with mplayer today though.
[08:20] <Jordan_U> Debolaz: Which patch?
[08:20] <Debolaz> Jordan_U: The patch for CoreAVC.
[08:20] <lain_wired> Oh hey, I forgot, there was one other issue.
[08:21] <lain_wired> My webcam is working fine currently, except that the image is too long (and just to test, I held a CD up, and the CD is longer than it is wide.)
[08:21] <lain_wired> Mostly I'm looking to adjust this?
[08:22] <Hotshot`> herb,  it worked!
[08:22] <Debolaz> Jordan_U: Afaik, mplayer can't load the win32 CoreAVC decoder without it.
[08:23] <herb> Hotshot`: awesome. glad to hear it.
[08:23] <Debolaz> I'll have a look at the nvidia thingibang too though.
[08:24] <Hotshot`> now I just have to go ahead and move all my documents from old windows partition to new ubuntu one
[08:24] <Hotshot`> delete wubi installation on windows
[08:25] <Build-A-Bear> fixed it by copying over an old xorg
[08:25] <Hotshot`> and do another partition edit and fix the new aprtitions
[08:25] <Build-A-Bear> 8.10 def has some major nvidia probs tho
[08:25] <Build-A-Bear> and they aint nvidia's fault :P
[08:25] <herb> Hotshot`: the first two parts shouldn't be too bad.
[08:25] <[mbm]> Build-A-Bear: ati problems too, although those are ati's fault
[08:26] <Build-A-Bear> [mbm]: i was never impressed by ati
[08:26] <Build-A-Bear> yay i got my ttys back too
[08:26] <[mbm]> Build-A-Bear: I decided to give them another chance shortly after they announced all the opensource stuff .. big mistake
[08:26] <Build-A-Bear> cool
[08:26] <Hotshot`> yeah its easy
[08:27] <owen1> i thought the new gimp has only one window..i just upgrade my ubuntu and my gimp looks the same. why?
[08:27] <[mbm]> Build-A-Bear: even stupid stuff that I didn't think could break, broke .. every time I try running mythtv my whole desktop goes scrambled before the mythtv menu even shows up
[08:28] <[mbm]> (and that's without compiz or any effects)
[08:28] <Hotshot`> Just going to be a long process moving all my music
[08:29] <chuckmoney> Build-A-Bear: nvidia-glx-new + twinview + compiz = houtrs and hours staring at /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:29] <Iron_Blood> mbm: what are you guys talking about?
[08:29] <phillip_> hi! hmm, is there some GUI for Vmware  on Ubuntu ?
[08:29] <chuckmoney> Build-A-Bear: EnvyNG Nvidia Driver + Twinview + compiz = awesome
[08:29] <[mbm]> Iron_Blood: I was just saying the ati driver is crap
[08:29] <Iron_Blood> aww kk
[08:29] <chuckmoney> Build-A-Bear: so it's basically all about the driver.  The Envy drivers, for whatever crazy reason, seem to work miracles.  At least for NVidia.
[08:30] <[mbm]> Iron_Blood: although if you know how to fix it I'd love to know
[08:30] <[mbm]> phillip_: yes.
[08:30] <Flannel> !nickspam > supremeWarlock
[08:31] <phillip_> [mbm]: oh? I downloaded vmware and would prefure to do configuration via a GUi?
[08:31] <WIGGMPk> how much of an improvement over Hardy is Ibex?
[08:32] <Iron_Blood> mbm: I would love to tell you if I knew how
[08:32] <Omar87> I tried to install Python 2.6, and after that, something wrong seems to have occurred. My mouse started to transform into a plus-shaped ( + ) cursor and the system reboot started act a little bit strangely, Exaile media player doesn't start.. I'd be honored if you guys help me fix this. Thanks.
[08:32] <navap> If I wanted to install a nice small http server, what would be some recommended options? Anyone have a link to a useful comparison?
[08:32] <[mbm]> phillip_: the vmware installer asks you a few text questions, but after installed, vmware is a gui
[08:32] <cafuego> WIGGMPk: vmware doesn't support that
[08:32] <gigel2006> How can I enable a 3d desktop and spin it around like I see in some youtube videos? (my ubuntu desktop only has 2 faces)
[08:32] <cafuego> gigel2006: Enable the cube plugin
[08:32] <WIGGMPk> cafuego: think you wanted phillip_
[08:32] <cafuego> WIGGMPk: I did too
[08:33] <gigel2006> cafuego: how and where ?
[08:33] <phillip_> [mbm]: oh intresting, thanks all :)
[08:33] <ArkoldThos> gigel2006: what ubuntu are you using?
[08:33] <gigel2006> ArkoldThos: 8.10
[08:33] <[mbm]> gigel2006: set the pager (thing at the bottom corner of the screen by the trash) to 4 desktops and enable the compiz desktop cube effect
[08:33] <Debolaz> Humm... the process to install nvidia drivers manually in ubuntu certainly seemed hairy.
[08:33] <ArkoldThos> navap: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiny_web_servers
[08:33] <Iron_Blood> Is it me? Or is it always hard/difficult to set up email server on ubuntu or any linux distro
[08:33] <phillip_> another question, i found after upgrading kernel's to the new intrpid, wireless adapter is no longer working, yet under hardware devices it is listed there? yet drop down of networking shows no wireless network. however inside network manager the wireless is not greyed out to add? anyone experience this?
[08:33] <ArkoldThos> there is a comparation
[08:34] <gigel2006> [mbm]: how do I set it to 4 ?or enable the compiz cube effect?
[08:34] <ArkoldThos> gigel2006: i say because I read that 8.06 had a bug that compiz and gnome wasn't in 'sync' with the number of desktops
[08:34] <ArkoldThos> so, enable the compiz cube effect
[08:34] <ArkoldThos> they should now be in sync
[08:35] <ArkoldThos> if it just shows 2 faces on the cube
[08:35] <[mbm]> Debolaz: process isn't too bad, most of the hairy stuff is just disabling the one that comes with ubuntu
[08:35] <navap> ArkoldThos: That doesn't really tell me much other then their development language and software license.
[08:35] <ArkoldThos> add the other 2 desktops
[08:35] <Omar87> I tried to install Python 2.6, and after that, something wrong seems to have occurred. My mouse started to transform into a plus-shaped ( + ) cursor and the system reboot started act a little bit strangely, Exaile media player doesn't start.. I'd be honored if you guys help me fix this. Thanks. (I'm using Ubuntu 8.10)
[08:35] <laobing> have redcora core 5?
[08:35] <gigel2006> ArkoldThos: how do I enable it ?
[08:35] <Debolaz> Good thing I have a laptop here so I can still troubleshoot effectively on the web if things explode in my face.
[08:35] <ArkoldThos> gigel2006: you need to install compizfusion-effects-config or smth package, use apt-cache search compiz config
[08:35] <[mbm]> gigel2006: pager -> right click -> properties -> workspaces = 4 .. for the desktop cube it might help if you isntall ccsm and click the desktop cube option in ccsm
[08:35] <ArkoldThos> navap: well, i like lighttpd =)
[08:36] <laobing> Redcora Core 6?
[08:36] <phillip_> anyone having issue with vpnc and creating pptp connections inside ubuntu intrpid?
[08:36] <ArkoldThos> aww, i am outdated :P i dont use ubuntu
[08:36] <Neremor> i've a problem with wine
[08:36] <ArkoldThos> i use kubuntu :(
[08:37] <Neremor> I would like to run a .NET based program using wine, but i get the following error message:
[08:37] <gigel2006> [mbm]: ArkoldThos: oh ok thanks a lot guys!
[08:37] <Neremor> The assembly was not found in the Global Assembly Cache, a path listed in the MONO_PATH environment variable, or in the location of the executing assembly (/home/jonathan/.wine/drive_c/Programme/ImoConnect/).
[08:37] <navap> ArkoldThos: How does one choose, they all seem to have all the same features
[08:37] <Neremor> and wine is telling me something about microsoft visual basic ver 8.0.0.0.0.0 ;) one line above
[08:37] <gigel2006> Does anyone know if TOR is in the repositories? I tried apt-cache search tor and got thousands of entries
[08:37] <ArkoldThos> navap: well lighttpd is used in youtube, sourceforge, the pirate bay, etc etc
[08:37] <ArkoldThos> and is quite very light
[08:37] <ArkoldThos> and fast
[08:37] <Neremor> i've read that i have to install mono but i already installed many mono packages
[08:37] <ackbahr> Hello everyone! I had two partitions on my HD, and when I removed one I damaged something with GRUB (error 22). I know there is a working menu.lst on the partition that remains (it was the original config of the computer), how can I (from live CD of course) use this menu.lst? Thanks!
[08:37] <Flannel> !info tor | gigel2006
[08:37] <navap> ArkoldThos: Good enough for me :)
[08:38] <ArkoldThos> wikipedia, meebo and other sites also use lighttpd
[08:38] <[mbm]> gigel2006: tor is in there somewhere, might be in universe
[08:38] <dovel> Neremor: have have you tried crossover etc for something a bit more robust than wine?
[08:38] <Flannel> navap: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[08:38] <ArkoldThos> navap: and here a real comparation sorry about the other :P http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_web_server_software
[08:38] <Neremor> no
[08:38] <Neremor> i thought crossover isn't free?
[08:39] <gigel2006> [mbm]: yes it says in component universe, how do I install that ?
[08:39] <navap> Flannel: I want to break the pattern and not go for the A in LAMP :b
[08:39] <ArkoldThos> Neremor: one day it was
[08:39] <Flannel> navap: Any particular reason/
[08:39] <Omar87> I tried to install Python 2.6, and after that, something wrong seems to have occurred. My mouse started to transform into a plus-shaped ( + ) cursor and the system reboot started act a little bit strangely, Exaile media player doesn't start.. I'd be honored if you guys help me fix this. Thanks.
[08:39] <ArkoldThos> apache isn't lightweight :o
[08:39] <[mbm]> gigel2006: synaptic -> settings -> repositories; click universe
[08:40] <navap> Flannel:  I've always used it, wanted to try something new, and am running ubuntu in virtualization so want to try and keep stuff as light as possible
[08:40] <dovel> Neremor: I also found that wine-doors was awesome for making sure that things were installed properly - dependencies and the like
[08:40] <ArkoldThos> well going to sleep
[08:40] <ArkoldThos> gn
[08:40] <dovel> making sure that everything is installed well could solve your problems
[08:40] <gigel2006> [mbm]: sorry for being a total noob but where is synaptic
[08:40] <navap> Goodnight
[08:40] <woody86> can anyone help me to make my screen resolution work? Its not under the options
[08:40] <[mbm]> gigel2006: menu at the top - system -> administration -> synaptic
[08:41] <navap> gigel2006: Might just be system>synaptic
[08:42] <gigel2006> [mbm]: synaptic package manager?
[08:42] <[mbm]> gigel2006: yep
[08:43] <gigel2006> if I click repositories I get the server windows, etc.
[08:44] <[mbm]> gigel2006: menu at the top of synaptic - settings-> repositories
[08:44] <Neremor> hm i've seen the program i try to run several times running with nothing else than wine
[08:44] <gigel2006> [mbm]: yes it didnt work but ok I just did a search for TOR and found it in the main synaptic wondow
[08:44] <Neremor> i'm sure i just have to install some packages
[08:45] <gigel2006> [mbm]: THANKS!
[08:47] <dovel> Neremor: wine-doors is a package designed to make installing things on wine easy - it can help you install anything that your application may depend on
[08:48] <dovel> Neremor: it can make instaling basic windows functions really easy
[08:57] <jim_p> !sensors
[08:58] <Saroset> Okay, I need a little help installing.
[08:59] <Saroset> Windows Boot manager: Windows failed to start.
[09:00] <Saroset> I get that message when I try to select anything other than Windows, loading from CD.
[09:00] <gigel2006> Could not display /etc/privoxy/config, HOW can i veiw these files in GUI ?
[09:02] <jim_p> gigel2006: gedit /etc/privoxy/config
[09:02] <gigel2006> jim_p: yes that's the command I was looking for
[09:02] <gigel2006> jim_p: THANKS
[09:03] <helpme> can i get some help connecting to me vnc server please? :)
[09:03] <jim_p> gigel2006: keep in mind that you wont be able to edit it as it is
[09:03] <gigel2006> jim_p: ya with sudo I know :)
[09:04] <majnoon> what is the official name now ??
[09:04] <kanhiya78> will anyone tell me why my computer hangs during installing real player packages and my cpu usage goes to 100%
[09:04] <kanhiya78> and i had to emergency shutdown
[09:04] <[mbm]> majnoon: intrepid?
[09:05] <helpme> can i get some help connecting to me vnc server please? :)
[09:05] <kanhiya78> i did same thing three time and got same thing
[09:05] <majnoon> not sure am checking
[09:05] <majnoon> downloading the iso now
[09:05] <[mbm]> majnoon: not sure what your question was
[09:06] <kanhiya78> anybody listening to me
[09:06] <majnoon> intrepid is the latest offial version ??
[09:06] <[mbm]> majnoon: yep
[09:06] <majnoon> *official
[09:07] <kanhiya78> hey anybody please tell me how to select all the packages using apt on cd
[09:07] <robacarp> can someone with gutsy installed help me `locate dpkg-gettext.pl` .... its a long story, but I lost mine
[09:07] <kanhiya78> anybody have answer?
[09:08] <kanhiya78> 1269 people in the room but nobody is answering me
[09:08] <[mbm]> majnoon: here's a hint; the release numbers look like this: 8.10 .. the 8 means 2008 and the 10 means october .. each release also has a name like intrepid ibex, these names are a simple alphabetical order and the next release will have a name starting with j
[09:08] <joot> kanhiya; Please be patient   I do not know but why do not use the online option???
[09:11] <Hotshot`> kancerman,
[09:11] <Hotshot`> oops
[09:11] <Hotshot`> kanhiya78,
[09:12] <Hotshot`> what do you need mate?
[09:12] <Omar87> I tried to start Exaile from the terminal, and it gave me this output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/72269/
[09:12] <Omar87> Please, help.
[09:12] <kanhiya78> Hotshot`: : i tried to install real player and downloaded .deb file but package manager stopped responding and i was not able to close him also my CPU usage increases to 100% and it was not coming down and i had to do emergency shutdown after waiting for five minutes
[09:12] <LCF> Omar87 I will help you
[09:13] <LCF> !ask
[09:13] <Omar87> LCF: I didn't ask to ask a question. I asked for help after I posted my problem. ;-)
[09:14] <kanhiya78> package manager stopped responding while installing real player for linux
[09:14] <Hotshot`> can you try installing it again?
[09:14] <kanhiya78> yes but same result
[09:14] <Hotshot`> hmm
[09:14] <Hotshot`> hold on
[09:15] <Omar87> I tried to start Exaile from the terminal, and it gave me this output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/72269/ Please help.
[09:15] <Saroset> Little help installing? I keep getting the error: Windows failed to start. I'm not sure why the unbuntu installer is considered windows =[
[09:16] <LCF> omar87 try "sudo exaile"
[09:16] <medc> one question i have a file 150 Mb and i need to compress really down.....what do you recomend?????
[09:16] <kanhiya78> Hotshot`: are you there?
[09:16] <Hotshot`> yes kancerman  read your PM
[09:19] <Saroset> Anyone?
[09:19] <mariusp> Hi all, does anyone know if usplash works with hibernate? In the configuration file (/etc/hibernate/common.conf) I only see options for bootsplash.
[09:19] <spairo> hi guys!
[09:20] <spairo> www.hitechlinux.es.tl
[09:23] <sat_804> hello i have an interesting problem here.  I have to know where is the list of all the items in the places menu.  I want to map a windows drive on my ubuntu 8.10 machine and i would like to know how can i create a shortcut from my places menu to my desktop.  I have the share in my places menu but when I right click on it I don't get the "send this item to desktop " option
[09:23] <Sertse> anyone tried making an iso out of thier currently installed system?
[09:23] <ditch64> i just upgraded from 8.04 to 8.10, aaaand it deleted my Nvidia drivers, any idea where i can get drivers for a Geforce 8800 GTS
[09:23] <Omar87> LCF: I just tried sudo exaile, and it gave me the exact same output. And when I keep trying to invoke it, the mouse curson takes the plus ( + ) shape, and completely stops responding to my clicks.
[09:23] <kindofabuzz> ditch64, when you update the new install you will get the drivers that work, they weren't there for the release
[09:24] <ditch64> kindofabuzz: what do you mean?
[09:24] <kindofabuzz> ditch64, you said you just installed 8.10? have you ran the update yet?
[09:24] <BulBulRed> network-manager: how do you start this from the command line?
[09:25] <ditch64> kindofabuzz: i get an error screen now that says i gotta resolve the issue
[09:25] <ditch64> kindofabuzz: and i dont think i can get to the normal os
[09:25] <kindofabuzz> ditch64, huh?
[09:25] <sat_804> to make my query clear I want to create a kind of soft link to the item in the places menu on the desktop.  like for example i did ln -s ~/Documents mydocuments in the desktop folder.  but I don't know where are all the other items i mean where is the path
[09:25] <kindofabuzz> oh low graphic mode?
[09:25] <ditch64> ya
[09:25] <ditch64> but it wont go to low graphics mode
[09:26] <kindofabuzz> just go into low graphics mode and do an update of the system
[09:26] <ditch64> it says wait one minute while we restart the server x
[09:26] <ditch64> but nothing happens
[09:26] <kindofabuzz> ctrl alt bckspace
[09:26] <Omar87> I tried to install python 2.6, and something went wrong. The mouse keeps going out of control, Exail and Emesene don't start.. The update manager is acting weird. Please help me.
[09:26] <ditch64> well i just restarted the computer so im gonna see if it goes now
[09:26] <dc> Hi There, I am new to Linux and would like to know, if there is a web gui based client for XDCC Fetching like Torrentflux for Torrents?
[09:27] <ditch64> kindofabuzz: nope same thing
[09:27] <kindofabuzz> ditch64, just go into low graphic mode and update
[09:27] <ditch64> kindofabuzz: i would if it would actually go into it
[09:28] <kindofabuzz> ditch64, give it a minute then if nothing, ctrl+alt+backspace
[09:28] <ditch64> kindofabuzz: ahh this is aggrevating, i did ctrl alt back and nothing
[09:29] <kindofabuzz> ditch64, or mess with those other options
[09:29] <ditch64> kindofabuzz: lol i would but idk what im doing there
[09:29] <kindofabuzz> what do you have? i forget
[09:29] <ditch64> Nvidia Geforce 8800 GTS
[09:29] <kindofabuzz> you won't hurt nothing, it's already messed up
[09:29] <kindofabuzz> no i mean what options do you have right now
[09:29] <ditch64> its soon to be softmodded to a quadro 4400
[09:30] <ditch64> oo
[09:30] <ditch64> ummmmm
[09:30] <ditch64> i just restarted, give me a second
[09:30] <kindofabuzz> it's linux man, no need to restart
[09:30] <ditch64> haha well when i get a blank screen with no options
[09:30] <kindofabuzz> well, yeah you may have had to with that
[09:30] <dc> Anyone got a suggestion for an web based gui client for XDCC fetching (like Torrentflux) ?
[09:31] <BulBulRed> network-manager: how do you start this from the command line with SUDO in GNOME ?
[09:31] <kindofabuzz> sudo network-manager?
[09:31] <BulBulRed> doesn't work..
[09:31] <ditch64> kindofabuzz: it gave me the option to restore it to default, well see how that works
[09:31] <kindofabuzz> yeah try that
[09:31] <BulBulRed> network-manager-gnome is installed and working, i can start it from the Systems>administration menu
[09:32] <kindofabuzz> sudo network-manager-gnome
[09:32] <BulBulRed> BUT any changes result in read-only.. i want to start it thrue CLI with SUDO
[09:32] <kindofabuzz> sudo network-manager-gnome
[09:32] <ditch64> im upgrading this computer, at the moment, so well see im gonna let this config file stay the same
[09:32] <Omar87> I tried to install python 2.6, and something went wrong. The mouse keeps going out of control, Exail and Emesene don't start.. The update manager is acting weird. Please help me.
[09:32] <kindofabuzz> gksudo network-manager-gnome
[09:33] <kindofabuzz> Omar87, uninstall it?
[09:33] <joot> Kinofabuzz: it is listed as   NetworkManager  in apropos
[09:33] <BulBulRed> doesn't work.. i don't see any command for network*
[09:33] <BulBulRed> and dpkg tells me: network-manager, network-manager-gnome, network-manager-kde is installed
[09:33] <TarBar> Can anyone help me? sites like google and ask.com take about a minute to load. or don't load at all. i have tried using the guides that speed firefox up to no avail. Any help?
[09:34] <Omar87> kindofabuzz: the problem is, it doesn't even appear to have been installed.
[09:34] <BulBulRed> TarBar: using a (slow) proxy?
[09:34] <kindofabuzz> Omar87, type python --version
[09:34] <TarBar> Nope no proxy
[09:34] <Frogzoo> TarBar: disable ipv6
[09:34] <TarBar> i have
[09:35] <joot> BulBulRed: it is listed as NetworkManager  in apropos
[09:35] <harvey> Hi people, I just installled the new 8.10 and I cant play DVDs, can anyone direct me to a good site tutorial, Ive already googled it and that hasnt helped. Much thanks.
[09:35] <BulBulRed> hmm sudo NetworkManager doesn't start anything
[09:36] <kindofabuzz> harvey, http://www.debuntu.org/how-to-play-dvd-under-ubuntu-linux
[09:36] <BulBulRed> but he asked me to be root, so it def is installed
[09:36] <ditch64> kindofabuzz: what exactly am i suppose to update
[09:36] <histo> !dvd | harvey
[09:36] <ditch64> kindofabuzz: like where am i going to find it?
[09:36] <TarBar> Any ideas :S?
[09:36] <kindofabuzz> ditch64, what do you mean?
[09:36] <harvey> thanks ubottu and kindofabuzz
[09:36] <ditch64> kindofabuzz: the driver that it wants me to install, is whats causing this
[09:37] <kindofabuzz> ditch64, did you get into the system yet?
[09:37] <Frogzoo> TarBar: in firefox: about:config you set network.dns.disableIPv6;true
[09:37] <ditch64> kindofabuzz: ya
[09:37] <kindofabuzz> ditch64, system > administration > update manager
[09:37] <ditch64> kindofabuzz: says its current
[09:37] <kindofabuzz> assuming you're on gnome
[09:37] <kindofabuzz> did you hit check?
[09:37] <ditch64> kindofabuzz: ya im on gnome, and yes i hit check
[09:37] <ditch64> kindofabuzz: i JUST upgraded the computer so its current files
[09:38] <kindofabuzz> ditch64, so no 3d is that what you're saying?
[09:38] <ditch64> kindofabuzz: yup
[09:38] <ditch64> kindofabuzz: no fancy stuff, its basically why i use it haha not to mention that its the most stable OS ive ever used
[09:39] <kindofabuzz> ditch64, run glxinfo | grep direct
[09:40] <TarBar> Yes Frogzoo i did do that
[09:40] <Saroset> How... Do I get rid of the Windows Boot Manager?
[09:40] <ditch64> kindofabuzz: umm what kinda result was i suppose to get from that
[09:40] <kindofabuzz> ditch, a yes or a no
[09:40] <jim_p> !nagios
[09:41] <ditch64> i got Xlib: Extention GLX missing on display o:o
[09:41] <BulBulRed> jim_p: i have some nagios experience.. there is also a channel called #nagios on this server i think
[09:41] <ditch64> 0:0
[09:41] <ditch64> kindofabuzz: it said that like 20 times in a row and i only entered it once
[09:41] <TarBar> Froogzoo but its weird because its only slow at times and other times its fast
[09:41] <kindofabuzz> ditch64, ok
[09:42] <BulBulRed> TarBar: could be your network
[09:42] <jim_p> BulBulRed: thanks. its about a friend of mine. he gets an email that the server is down every 30 seconds. can he make it like once a day intill he fixes the problem?
[09:42] <BulBulRed> try monitoring or speed tests
[09:42] <Frogzoo> TarBar: maybe that particular site has a dns problem?
[09:42] <BulBulRed> try another browser if you think it's FireFox..
[09:42] <jim_p> !sound
[09:43] <gomer> Anyone here got a clue on bluetooth headsets?
[09:43] <kindofabuzz> ditch64, sorry i don't anything else to do now. i just know the basics of vid card drivers, i'm sure someone else here can help though. google is your friend too =)
[09:43] <TarBar> Not my network i'm dual booting between ubuntu and windows windows is fine and ive tried google,youtube,ask.com,wikipedia.org etc and sometimes they load fast sometimes not at all or very slow.
[09:43] <platius> hmm I wonder what ditch64 sees with System > Administration > Hardware Devices?
[09:43] <BulBulRed> jim_p: you can find that information in the configuration files of that specific server
[09:43] <kindofabuzz> yeah
[09:43] <kindofabuzz> platius, good idea
[09:43] <kindofabuzz> lol
[09:43] <ditch64> kindofabuzz: for sure thank you very much
[09:43] <kindofabuzz> ditch64, System > Administration > Hardware Devices
[09:44] <platius> too late
[09:44] <kindofabuzz> activate your driver if it's there
[09:44] <jim_p> BulBulRed: so it is a server problem? ok thanks
[09:44] <kindofabuzz> is he gone?
[09:44] <kindofabuzz> oh well
[09:44] <BulBulRed> jim_p: if you get a message every 30secs telling "server down" and it really is down
[09:44] <platius> kindofabuzz;  nice try
[09:44] <Omar87> kindofabuzz: I'm trying to get the output for "python --version", but it takes some time get it. Now, if press ctrl-c during that and try "python --version" again it does give me the completely output instantly, but then it takes the mouse away from me, in a way that my clicks are no more effective, I can no longer do anything at all but moving the cursor or hitting ctrl-alt-back space on the keyboard.
[09:44] <BulBulRed> jim_p: that means that you configured a check to run every 30 seconds and notification
[09:45] <BulBulRed> jim_p: you can change the notification frequency
[09:45] <jim_p> BulBulRed: ok thanks
[09:45] <TarBar> Could it be a MTU problem?
[09:45] <BulBulRed> jim_p: check documentation: http://www.nagios.org/docs/
[09:45] <BulBulRed> search for "notification" and "object configuration"
[09:45] <kindofabuzz> Omar87, open up Synaptic and search for python, if you see that 2.6, uninstall it
[09:45] <Omar87> Note: My writing is way much better than that but I was just in a hurry. Please excuse me. :)
[09:46] <woody86> how can I swap over so I use KDM by default, rather than GDM?
[09:46] <BlueEagle> Why would Xmail attempt to listen on port 79 (back orifice)
[09:46] <BlueEagle> ?
[09:46] <kindofabuzz> woody86, install kde-desktop, then at the gdm you choose kde instead of gnome
[09:46] <kindofabuzz> oh i read wrong
[09:46] <kindofabuzz> lol
[09:47] <TarBar> ):
[09:47] <Omar87> kindofabuzz: I tried that, moments ago. Python 2.6 doesn't even exist there.
[09:47] <kindofabuzz> Omar87, don't know what to tell you really, sorry
[09:47] <Gabbsmo> Hi. I am new to linux. I've been testing PCFluxboxOS for a while now, but I don't like it that much. There is a lot of stuff in it that I don't need or want. I've been thinking of a alternative install (with flubox and so on) of Ubuntu 8. But will my PC be slow the the debian core? Specs: Pentuim III 733Mhz, 256MB RAM, Geforce MX 32Mb.
[09:47] <woody86> kindofabuzz, I have them both installed already, but I was doing something while it was installing, and when that window popped up I accidentally authorized it to use GDM
[09:47] <jim_p> BulBulRed: thanks
[09:48] <BulBulRed> np
[09:48] <BlueEagle> woody86: have you attempted to dpckg-reconfigure the package?
[09:48] <ziroday> Gabbsmo: you can go with fluxbuntu, but its not really designed for systems that weak
[09:48] <BlueEagle> -c
[09:48] <CorpseFeeder> HELP!!! I upgraded from 8.04 to 8.10 and now I keep getting an annoying nag about "couldn't detect graphics card correctly... blah blah blah... you need to configure this manually.. yada yada yada... running in low graphics mode.. etc..." And then it boots normally and all supported screen modes work perfectly, the graphics card appears to be detected correctly and gnome is not running in low res mode at all... yet the stup
[09:48] <kindofabuzz> woody86, sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm, choose kdm
[09:48] <kindofabuzz> then reboot
[09:49] <rOoNy911> Is there an easy way to have sound on a YouTube vid and movie at the same time? :(
[09:49] <woody86> kindofabuzz, ok, thanks :)
[09:49] <ziroday> rOoNy911: which version of ubuntu?
[09:49] <DIFH-iceroot> rOoNy911: yes, start a youtube video and a movie at the same time
[09:49] <kindofabuzz> flash takes over sound
[09:49] <rOoNy911> ziroday the newest one
[09:49] <DIFH-iceroot> kindofabuzz: not for me
[09:50] <ziroday> rOoNy911: so 8.10, intrepid ibex?
[09:50] <rOoNy911> yeah :D
[09:50] <rOoNy911> im new to linux :s
[09:50] <Omar87> kindofabuzz: I'm trying installing python-all. Maybe this might help.
[09:50] <BlueEagle> rOoNy911: You will need to use a software sound mixer for that to work if it doesn't work out of the box as far as I know.
[09:50] <kindofabuzz> DIFH-iceroot, well it used to be that way, may have changed with flash 10
[09:50] <ziroday> rOoNy911: intall the package flashplugin-nonfree-extrasound
[09:50] <kindofabuzz> or that =)
[09:50] <rOoNy911> ziroday: mmmmk
[09:50] <ziroday> BlueEagle: not true
[09:50] <DIFH-iceroot> kindofabuzz: i am using 8.04 and flash is != 10
[09:50] <rOoNy911> ziroday: from synaptics?
[09:50] <BlueEagle> rOoNy911: ie. hardware mixing is detected for most soundcards, but when they are not you'll have to set up a software solution.
[09:50] <ziroday> rOoNy911: yep
[09:51] <kindofabuzz> DIFH-iceroot, you should get 10, much much better
[09:51] <rOoNy911> thanks a lot fellas :D
[09:51] <rOoNy911> how do i quote someone in IRC?
[09:51] <Adamant> not very ... chatty ..
[09:51] <kindofabuzz> copy paste
[09:51] <DIFH-iceroot> kindofabuzz: less cpu-usage?
 how do i quote someone in IRC?
[09:51] <rOoNy911> I mean like ziroday: Hello or something
[09:51] <ziroday> !tab | rOoNy911
[09:51] <BlueEagle> ziroday: Well then I guess it's just me who can't get it working.
[09:52] <ardchoille> rOoNy911: type their nick
[09:52] <ziroday> BlueEagle: what version of ubuntu?
[09:52]  * kindofabuzz this?
[09:52] <Adamant> i just started,  this is deeply convusing ..
[09:52] <Adamant> .. confusing ..
[09:52] <rOoNy911> ahhh mk
[09:52] <Omar87> kindofabuzz: Isn't it weird that Ubuntu supports Python 3.0, but doesn't seem to support Python 2.6?
[09:52] <BlueEagle> ziroday: Last time I tried was gutsy.
[09:52] <rOoNy911> Omar87: Not really?
[09:52] <ziroday> BlueEagle: ah okay, well if you are using hardy or intrepid there are packages you can install which try to fix it
[09:52] <kindofabuzz> Omar87, yeah i noticed that when you started talking about it, i looked it up, 2.5 and 3.0 in repos but no 2.6
[09:52] <Adamant> attention rawr ...
[09:52] <rOoNy911> Omar87: wouldn't the newer releases support more OS's?
[09:52] <Adamant> sigh.
[09:53] <ziroday> Adamant: do you have a question we can help you with?
[09:53] <rOoNy911> Adamant: Yes?
[09:53] <musikgoat> Adamant: if you have a question, just put it out there, its a support channel, otherwise, you can chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:53] <Adamant> how would i expand my ubuntu partition without losing other files ?
[09:53] <kindofabuzz> Omar87, 2.5 is all you need right now
[09:53] <Omar87> kindofabuzz: Could it be because 3.0 is more mature?
[09:53] <rOoNy911> Adamant: I wanna know that as well.
[09:53] <BlueEagle> ziroday: I will try putting ubuntu back on my main box then. I've been dabbling with arch on it for a while.
[09:53] <Adamant> earlier my xp crashed like 6x so i said .. " go die "
[09:53] <kindofabuzz> AdmiralNDP, gparted
[09:53] <kindofabuzz> Adamant, gparted
[09:54] <kindofabuzz> Omar87, not sure
[09:54] <Henning> Question: When my computer boots up, it doesn't go into GNOME, but stays in the terminal instead. Now what do I do?
[09:54] <ziroday> Henning: any errors?
[09:54] <SeaOfTea> Adamant: with a live cd gparted is included
[09:54] <Adamant> theres no way .. ?
[09:54] <CorpseFeeder> my graphics card is ATI Radeon RV250 Mobility FireGL 9000... Ubuntu 8.10 is having some problem with it during boot up, but it works perfectly once the gnome desktop loads.. What on earth is going on with 8.10?
[09:54] <kindofabuzz> Henning, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[09:54] <Omar87> kindofabuzz: That's true. I've learned my lesson. :)
[09:54] <Adamant> wow my chat is glitchy..
[09:54] <BlueEagle> Henning: Which installation method did you use?
[09:54] <Henning> ziroday: None that I know of, although Intrepid is sorta dodgy so far
[09:54] <Adamant> like 15 lines at a time instead of .. 1 ..
[09:54] <ziroday> Henning: okay, you can try type in startx to see if it errors out
[09:54] <Henning> I installed from the LiveCD without booting into Ubuntu first
[09:55] <kindofabuzz> Henning, then once in gnome or whatever, go to services and make sure gdm is checked
[09:55] <Henning> what is GDM?
[09:55] <Adamant> i downloaded 8.4 then mounted in daemon tools and installed
[09:55] <BlueEagle> Henning: That means that you probably have the alternate install cd.
[09:55] <Adamant> and sudo isnt working, do i have to do something special ?
[09:55] <kindofabuzz> Henning, the thing you don't have, graphical display manager
[09:55] <Adamant> it keeps asking for a password..
[09:55] <BlueEagle> Henning: log in with the username you created and install gnome-desktop
[09:55] <Henning> No, I used the LiveCD
[09:55] <Henning> and it ran GNOME for a few days
[09:56] <kindofabuzz> Adamant, use your password
[09:56] <Henning> but then I rebooted and this happens
[09:56] <ziroday> Henning: did startx give you any errors?
[09:56] <Adamant> sigh.
[09:56] <BlueEagle> Henning: It supports installing off the bat now?
[09:56] <DIFH-iceroot> who to see the vesion of a program (not installed) with apt-get?
[09:56] <DIFH-iceroot> how
[09:56] <montamer> hi which package contain groupadd, useradd commands???
[09:56] <ziroday> BlueEagle: yes
[09:56] <Henning> blueeagle, pretty sure, yeah
[09:56] <Yondering> hello.. is there an updated version of sun java6 for ibex yet?  mine's still hanging quite regularly..
[09:56] <Omar87> kindofabuzz: For some reason, the mouse keeps going out of control. It keeps taking the shape of a plus sign ( + ).
[09:56] <ziroday> DIFH-iceroot: apt-cache policy <packagename>
[09:56] <RizR> Setup dual monitor with ATI/Ubuntu/fglrx?
[09:56] <BlueEagle> Henning/ziroday: Good. I didn't know that (either). I feel like I'm lagging behind here. :)
[09:56] <kindofabuzz> Omar87, that's weird, just from installing 2.6? which has nothing to do with graphics or mice
[09:57] <kindofabuzz> Omar87, have you tried restrting X?
[09:57] <kindofabuzz> ctrl -alt bckspace
[09:57] <Omar87> kindofabuzz: How do I do that?
[09:57] <BlueEagle> RizR: Define two devices, monitors and screens in xorg.conf and set the orientation in server layout.
[09:57] <Henning> ziroday, wasn't there some sort of keystroke to change from the window manager to the terminal interface?
[09:57] <kindofabuzz> or log out
[09:58] <Omar87> kindofabuzz: I tried that many times.
[09:58] <DIFH-iceroot> ziroday: thx
[09:58] <ardchoille> Henning: ctrl+alt+f1
[09:58] <ziroday> Henning: you mean ctrl alt F7 to go to the graphical area?
[09:58] <CorpseFeeder> does anyone here know anything about reconfiguring graphics to avoid errors at boot up at all?
[09:58] <RizR> BlueEagle: did you have experience with it?
[09:58] <Henning> ziroday, mnaybe
[09:58] <nathanael> hello
[09:58] <CorpseFeeder> HELP!!! I upgraded from 8.04 to 8.10 and now I keep getting an annoying nag about "couldn't detect graphics card correctly... blah blah blah... you need to configure this manually.. yada yada yada... running in low graphics mode.. etc..." And then it boots normally and all supported screen modes work perfectly, the graphics card appears to be detected correctly and gnome is not running in low res mode at all... yet the stup
[09:59] <rOoNy911> ziroday: theres no flashplugin-nonfree-extrasound in synaptics :(
[09:59] <BlueEagle> RizR: Not with ati, but it's driver independent iirc.
[09:59] <nathanael> I am having trouble with my Broadcom wireless, and
[09:59] <Omar87> kindofabuzz: Is there a way to regain control over it from the terminal?
[09:59] <BlueEagle> RizR: However xinerama and glx weren't best of pals last I checked.
[09:59] <ziroday> rOoNy911: open a terminal and type in sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree-extrasound
[09:59] <BlueEagle> !broadcom | nathanael
[09:59] <Henning> ziroday, nope, it just gives me an empty black screen with a blinking cursor
[09:59] <nathanael> lspci doesn't seem to work, as running lspci -H1 shows the wireless , but lspci -H1 doesn't
[09:59] <rOoNy911> ziroday: Thanks :D
[09:59] <RizR> BlueEagle: I'm trying to setup using big desktop. Found couple of to-the-point how tos that claim to work but they just dont for me :-)
[10:00] <CorpseFeeder> my graphics card is ATI Radeon RV250 Mobility FireGL 9000... Ubuntu 8.10 is having some problem with it during boot up, but it works perfectly once the gnome desktop loads.. What on earth is going on with 8.10? This error every time it boots is very annoying.....
[10:00] <rOoNy911> ziroday: E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[10:00] <rOoNy911> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[10:00] <BlueEagle> RizR: Did you copy and paste or did you read and understand?
[10:00] <ziroday> rOoNy911: close synaptic first :)
[10:00] <rOoNy911> ziroday: o_O
[10:00] <Saroset> Can someone please help me dig myself out of this mess I'm in?
[10:00] <rOoNy911> ziroday: lol ok thanks
[10:00] <ziroday> Henning: okay, go back to the terminal and type in sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[10:00] <ziroday> Saroset: we need to know the mess to help you
[10:00] <histo> CorpseFeeder: what is the error?
[10:00] <BlueEagle> !anyone | Saroset
[10:00] <nathanael> I do not know if this problem is related to the new kernel (2.6.27 ) or not, as lspci would show the wireless card in ubutnu hardy
[10:01] <histo> !ask | Saroset
[10:01] <rOoNy911> ziroday: cameron@cameron-laptop:~$ sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree-extrasound
[10:01] <rOoNy911> Reading package lists... Done
[10:01] <rOoNy911> Building dependency tree
[10:01] <rOoNy911> Reading state information... Done
[10:01] <rOoNy911> Package flashplugin-nonfree-extrasound is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[10:01] <FloodBot1> rOoNy911: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:01] <rOoNy911> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[10:01] <RizR> BlueEagle: read and understood mostly. Copied when could becuase cant copy everything.
[10:01] <BlueEagle> RizR: Ok, and at what point did it not work?
[10:01] <histo>  05:01:43 up 54 min,  2 users,  load average: 0.00, 0.08, 0.31
[10:01] <RizR> BlueEagle: ok. could you define "server layout orientation" please?
[10:01]  * histo ugh power outage
[10:01] <Saroset> Holy hell, I've asked questions already. Right now, I have a computer with no boot manager that is trying to load over a network. This started when no one would tell me how I can use or get rid of the Windows boot manager because it wouldn't let me install.
[10:01] <ziroday> rOoNy911: pastebin :). what does lsb_release -a say?
[10:02] <BlueEagle> RizR: I'll see if I can find a how-to. ;)
[10:02] <nathanael> sudo lspci -H1 gives me this: 30:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11a/b/g (rev 02), but lspci doesn't show the wireless card when run without the -H1 option
[10:02] <histo> Saroset: what are you trying to install?
[10:02] <yao_ziyuan> how do i bring Home, My Computer, etc. to Desktop?
[10:02] <darkbishop_> i cant retract rar file... its said un supporter something.... what should i use beside achive manager
[10:02] <Henning> ziroday, it says * starting GNOME display manager, gives an okay and goes right back to the console prompt
[10:02] <CorpseFeeder> histo: I can't say word for word what the error is cos it is during boot up and I can't copy/paste it. but the jist of it is "graphics card not detected correctly. .. running in low graphics mode.. you need to configure it manually".. then it boots up normally and there are NO graphics problems and it is NOT running in low graphics mode.
[10:02] <Saroset> Kubuntu.
[10:02] <BlueEagle> RizR: http://wiki.osuosl.org/display/howto/Set+Up+Dual+Monitors+-+xorg.conf is the setup I am thinking about
[10:02] <ziroday> Henning: okay, switch to the graphical area (ctrl+alt+f7)
[10:02] <Saroset> Which doesn't matter at the moment. If I can find a camera this will become easier.
[10:02] <Henning> ziroday, does this mean gnome is already running but I'm still stuck in the console?
[10:02] <RizR> BlueEagle: one of three things happens: 1. it just clones desktop. 2. crashes x server. 3. who screen comes as unrecognizable horizontal lines.
[10:03] <Henning> ziroday, empty black screen
[10:03] <darkbishop_> !rar
[10:03] <rOoNy911> ziroday: http://paste.ubuntu.com/72282/
[10:03] <histo> Saroset: so when you try to install kubuntu you are getting errors?
[10:03] <solarbaby> Ubuntu is more supportive then my underwear
[10:03] <histo> CorpseFeeder: well then I wouldn't worry about it but you can try looking in dmesg or /var/log/syslog
[10:03] <BlueEagle> RizR: Now, the bus-ids you need to alter ofcourse. Other than that it should work.
[10:03] <ziroday> rOoNy911: what did the output of lsb_release -a say?
[10:03] <Saroset> histo, I cant even get to the install yet.
[10:03] <RizR> BLueEagle: on right now my server layout says: Section "ServerLayout"
[10:03] <RizR>         Identifier     "aticonfig Layout"
[10:03] <RizR>         Screen      0  "aticonfig-Screen[0]-0" 0 0
[10:03] <RizR> EndSection
[10:03] <FloodBot1> RizR: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:03] <rOoNy911> ziroday: Pardon? :s
[10:04] <BlueEagle> RizR: Now, again. It's not always xinerama works well with *glx
[10:04] <ziroday> Henning: odd, so gdm and x is started but nothing appears?
[10:04] <histo> Saroset: okay why not... I'm sorry I missed your original problem. I caught something about you are trying a network install?
[10:04] <Henning> yuo
[10:04] <Saroset> histo, I deleted my boot manager and windows partition while tinkering.
[10:04] <Henning> *yup
[10:04] <histo> Saroset: okay.
[10:04] <ziroday> rOoNy911: can you pastebin the output of the command lsb_release -a
[10:04] <BlueEagle> !paste
[10:04] <RizR> BlueEagle: how do I find bus ids for my card?
[10:04] <histo> Saroset: do you have physical access to the machine?
[10:04] <Saroset> Yup.
[10:04] <CorpseFeeder> histo: I'd love to not worry about it, but I have to click through about 3 error confirmation screens every damned time I boot the computer.. it sucks. I need to find out how to stop this bogus error nagging me every time. it is frustration x 10000
[10:04] <rOoNy911> ziroday: Ive no idea what GDM is let alone lsb_release
[10:05] <Omar87> I'm facing this error after a failed attempt to install Python 2.6 from source: http://paste.ubuntu.com/72269/ Please help.
[10:05] <ziroday> Henning: but it has a blinking cursor?
[10:05] <histo> CorpseFeeder: ahh its a pop window when X loads? Look in /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[10:05] <Henning>  ziroday, when I press alt+ctrl+f1 to get back into the console, it says there that there was a fatal server error (no screens found)
[10:05] <ThomasD> hi
[10:05] <Henning> ziroday yes, there is a cursor
[10:05] <ThomasD> can anyone tell me how I can get a list of all upgradable backages with apt-get?
[10:05] <CorpseFeeder> histo: ok... hold on
[10:05] <ThomasD> packages*
[10:05] <ziroday> rOoNy911: when you type in lsb_release -a what version of ubuntu does it say you are using?
[10:05] <histo> Saroset: and do you need to recover your windows partition? Or are you just trying to install kubuntu alone.
[10:06] <roony911> ziroday: Ah! Mk
[10:06] <ziroday> Henning: um, okay. So your xorg hasn't started?
[10:06] <BlueEagle> RizR: lspci
[10:06] <ardchoille> ThomasD: sudo apt-get upgrade
[10:06] <Saroset> histo, at this point neither of those seems possible. I'd prefer to just get kubuntu installed though.
[10:06] <RizR> ah. obvious. thanks.
[10:06] <roony911> ziroday: It says 8.04 but im sure i downloaded 8.10 last nite :S
[10:06] <BlueEagle> RizR: For me it's 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device (rev 02)
[10:06] <histo> Saroset: do you have a kubuntu cd?
[10:06] <Saroset> histo, yes
[10:07] <ziroday> roony911: right, you need to install libflashsupport for hardy :)
[10:07] <histo> Saroset: then boot the kubuntu cd.
[10:07] <Gullstad> I'm having problem with videomultimedia on ubuntu. The sound and video is unsynced, and it's really slow playing videos, or watch steams on internett. My computer ain't using all the ram or cpu power when this is happening. The graficcard was supported by ubuntu, and is installed.
[10:07] <BlueEagle> RizR: http://paste.ubuntu.com/72284/ drops a few unneccessary (how is that spelt) modes that you'll never use anywys.
[10:07] <RizR> BlueEagle: mine's 01:00.1...just use it in this format?
[10:07] <Saroset> histo, that's the problem. There's nothing to boot it.
[10:07] <Henning> ziroday, yes
[10:07] <remoteCTRL> what is actually new in intrepid?
[10:07] <ThomasD> ardchoille: no, that upgrades all packages
[10:07] <BlueEagle> RizR: that would be PCI:1:0:1
[10:07] <jim_p> !sound
[10:07] <ziroday> !notes | remoteCTR1
[10:07] <histo> Saroset: your bios controls what the machine trys to boot first. Not the boot manager on the physical hard drive.
[10:08] <Henning> ziroday, and for some reason my num lock key is active :)
[10:08] <roony911> ziroday: u legend :D
[10:08] <remoteCTRL> ziroday: thabks man
[10:08] <BlueEagle> RizR: or something like that.
[10:08] <ardchoille> ThomasD: it also returns a list of everything that can be upgraded
[10:08] <ThomasD> ardchoille: I only want to know which ones are upgradable, dont want to upgrade em
[10:08] <CorpseFeeder> histo: the log contains http://paste.ubuntu.com/72286/
[10:08] <ziroday> Henning: ouch confusing, any specific errors it gives as to why x was not started?
[10:08] <RizR> BlueEagle: sorry to be annoying. How did you convert from 01:00.1 to 1:0:1?
[10:09] <Saroset> histo, my bios seems to hate me.
[10:09] <BlueEagle> RizR: drop the first of each double digit
[10:09] <Henning> ziroday, well just the no screens found thingy
[10:09] <histo> Saroset: why is that? can you change the boot sequence?
[10:09] <Darwin-LTS> hello I accidentally deleted the "start" bar which is located at the bottom of the screen, I attempted to create a new one but windows won't get minimized to it, how can I create it back
[10:09] <natschil> can somebody please help me with my Broadcom wireless card and intrepid. I am running it on a hp Compaq 6715 laptop. Windows Vista uses the wireless card fine, but when I run lspci, it is not found. only if I run lspci -H1, I get this output 30:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11a/b/g (rev 02). I think it might be related to the new kernel. Can somebody please help?
[10:09] <BlueEagle> RizR: I think PCI:1:00:1 would work too, but I haven't tried that.
[10:10] <Saroset> histo, yes. I've moved everything up, down, on, off, and it seems to make no difference at all in the behaviour.
[10:10] <RizR> alright. let me try.
[10:10] <BlueEagle> natschil: Did you read the link ubottu gave you?
[10:10] <ardchoille> Darwin-LTS: you need to add the aplet "window list" to the panel
[10:10] <histo> natschil: has it ever worked? And I believe for the broadcomm cards you need the firmware
[10:10] <RizR> thanks for the help :)
[10:10] <ziroday> Henning: okay, can you edit your xorg.conf. Go to the Device Section and replace Driver "something" to Driver "vesa"
[10:10] <histo> Saroset: well you would make the cdrom first then the hard drive second etc.... Then save the configuration.
[10:10] <Henning> ziroday, i forgot where the xorg.conf is located
[10:10] <BlueEagle> !broadcom > natschil
[10:10] <ziroday> Henning: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:10] <DIFH-iceroot> hm, why there is a adobe flash 10 in the repos? i though there would be never an upgrade in the repos, just fixes?
[10:11] <histo> Saroset: Why do you think you deleted your windows partition?
[10:11] <Darwin-LTS> ardchoille, way to go, thanks
[10:11] <Darwin-LTS> just did it
[10:11] <ardchoille> Darwin-LTS: yw :)
[10:11] <natschil> yes, it worked in hardy BlueEagle: The problem is not related to the driver, but to the fact that lspci usually doesn't find the card, even though it found it in hardy
[10:11] <histo> Saroset: do you want to join #ubuntu-classroom theres a little less chat in there it would be easier to follow.
[10:11] <ziroday> DIFH-iceroot: In intrepid flash 10 is included
[10:11] <Saroset> histo, sure.
[10:11] <DIFH-iceroot> ziroday: in 8.04 also
[10:12] <ziroday> DIFH-iceroot: ah sorry, I misread your question
[10:12] <DIFH-iceroot> ziroday:    500 http://archive.canonical.com hardy/partner Packages  there is adobe flash 10
[10:12] <Neurolysis> Hey guys, I have just been trying to install 8.10, but I keep on getting 'I/O error' on the cd, so i have went to 8.04 which is working, except when i go to install it says the following:
[10:12] <histo> Saroset: let me know when you are there. you can /j #ubuntu-classroom
[10:13] <CorpseFeeder> histo: so... was there anything of importance in my Xorg.0.log file ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/72286/
[10:13] <Neurolysis> (initramfs) [115...] ata1.00: revalidation failed errono=-5
[10:13] <ziroday> DIFH-iceroot: flash 10 is included in hardy-backports, but not in the normal hardy repos
[10:13] <idanm> Hello, Is there a way to control the entire screen's brightness instead of a single element (window, dock, etc...) ??
[10:13] <Neurolysis> status: {DRDY}
[10:13] <DIFH-iceroot> ziroday: ok dont know that the repo is a backport-repo
[10:13] <BlueEagle> natschil: Does the fact that lspci doesn't list the device without a parameter void the rest of the guide?
[10:13] <DIFH-iceroot> ziroday: i thought it is the normal partner-repo
[10:13] <natschil> BlueEagle: what do you mean?
[10:14] <Neurolysis> And then it says 'exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x0 action 0x2 frozen
[10:14] <ziroday> DIFH-iceroot: the canonical repo is maintained by canonical. Not by ubuntu.
[10:14] <remoteCTRL> ziroday: errr those release notes mainly list known issues, i.e. bugs, is that all that is new in intrepid?:D
[10:14] <idanm> Anyone ?
[10:14] <DIFH-iceroot> ziroday: ok i thought its the same
[10:14] <Neurolysis> idanm: You've got to be patient.
[10:14] <DIFH-iceroot> ziroday: like suse and novell
[10:14] <ziroday> remoteCTR1: gimme a sec
[10:14] <remoteCTRL> ziroday: sure, thanks
[10:15] <ziroday> remoteCTR1: you want this http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/intrepid/beta
[10:15] <BlueEagle> natschil: -H1 just uses a different way of accessing the devices.
[10:15] <idanm> Neurolysis K, just thought nooneaw my Q.
[10:15] <histo> CorpseFeeder: hrm.. no I would try searching the forums
[10:15] <ziroday> remoteCTR1: but remember, its only a very, very brief overview.
[10:15] <remoteCTRL> ziroday: looks better though, thanks
[10:15] <Neurolysis> idanm: You're not the only one waiting for a response, just be patient :)
[10:16] <xrhstaras66> Help
[10:16] <BlueEagle> natschil: Now you may have some luck making yourself a member of the group that the device belongs to, but other than that if lspci -H1 can find it then the kernel can too.
[10:16] <idanm> Neurolysis: I said OK ;-)
[10:16] <xrhstaras66> !help
[10:16] <BlueEagle> natschil: Now, be aware that I have never used a broadcom device so the fact that lcpci's standard method doesn't find it might prevent the drivers from working, however I don't think it would.
[10:16] <PerSeL> hello can someone link me a guide how do i open those archive files i prefer to install openoffice 3 and not getting the 2.x from sudo apt-get
[10:17] <xrhstaras66> Help can't boot ubuntu 8.10 , "APERTURE SIZE" AND THEN FREEZES
[10:17] <BlueEagle> PerSeL: Which are "those" archive files?
[10:17] <BlueEagle> PerSeL: are they .tar.gz or somesuch?
[10:17] <natschil> BlueEagle: Doesn't lspci use the kernel to find the devices?
[10:18] <PerSeL_> y how do i make it as a program
[10:18] <PerSeL_> like you know just install the 3rd version of openoffice
[10:18] <BlueEagle> natschil: It does, but also -H1 just uses a different method of accessing hardware that requires root privileges. The kernel does have root privileges.
[10:18] <ziroday> Perlboy: let me get a link for you, one sec
[10:18] <xrhstaras66> Help can't boot ubuntu 8.10 , "APERTURE SIZE" AND THEN FREEZES
[10:18] <BlueEagle> PerSeL: If you do not know how to unpack an archive I do not recomend you attempt to compile OOo from source.
[10:18] <xrhstaras66> Help can't boot ubuntu 8.10 cd for installation or live  ,it says "APERTURE SIZE" AND THEN FREEZES
[10:18] <media> What program could i use to long on to a windows computer
[10:18] <CorpseFeeder> why am I getting an error about graphics card detection at all when it works fine after boot up? aaaarrghhh!!!
[10:18] <PerSeL> BlueEagle: now i know how to unpack
[10:19] <BlueEagle> !build-sessentials | PerSeL
[10:19] <ziroday> PerSeL: you need to add this repo to get get OpenOffice.org 3 https://launchpad.net/~openoffice-pkgs/+archive
[10:19] <BlueEagle> !build-sessential | PerSeL
[10:19] <PerSeL> but i want to make it as program and those files in archives or extracted
[10:19] <BlueEagle> hmm..
[10:19] <natschil> is there a way to tell the kernel to use -H1 by default?
[10:19] <xrhstaras66> Help can't boot ubuntu 8.10 cd for installation or live  ,it says "APERTURE SIZE" AND THEN FREEZES
[10:19] <macvr> hi all... i seem to have lost ALL the font settings i had set in the appearances font tab... but i have a backup of my system... but i dont know where the font config is saved... does anyone know where the font config is saved?
[10:20] <media> sorry what program could i use to log on to a windows computer at anouther house
[10:20] <BlueEagle> !build-essential | PerSeL
[10:20] <BlueEagle> there we go.
[10:20] <DIFH-iceroot> media: vnc
[10:20] <CorpseFeeder> HELP!!! I upgraded from 8.04 to 8.10 and now I keep getting an annoying nag about "couldn't detect graphics card correctly... blah blah blah... you need to configure this manually.. yada yada yada... running in low graphics mode.. etc..." And then it boots normally and all supported screen modes work perfectly, the graphics card appears to be detected correctly and gnome is not running in low res mode at all... yet the stup
[10:20] <natschil> what is also strange, is that one time when I booted lspci did show me broadcom device, and jockey told me there were restricted drivers available, but the internet wasn't working, so I couldn't download them
[10:20] <BlueEagle> !attitude CorpseFeeder
[10:21] <media> thank u i had it installed could not rember name
[10:21] <BlueEagle> I'm totally missing the factoids today. :/
[10:21] <CorpseFeeder> :)
[10:21] <yeryry> CorpseFeeder: nvidia?
[10:21] <BlueEagle> !attitude | CorpseFeeder
[10:21] <CorpseFeeder> yeryry: ATI
[10:22] <macvr> hi all...does anyone know where the font config is saved? i seem to have lost ALL the font settings i had set in the appearances font tab... but i have a backup of my system... but i dont know where the font config is saved... so does anyone know where the font config is saved?
[10:22] <yeryry> ah, dunno then.. I fixed that warning (and only getting low res) by removing a second Device entry from xorg.conf
[10:23] <CorpseFeeder> yeryry: maybe I have a second device in xorg.conf too?
[10:23] <yeryry> CorpseFeeder: maybe? Have a look..
[10:23] <Henning> ziroday, finally I've managed to edit the xorg.conf. now what do I put in there?
[10:23] <remoteCTRL> hmmm seem as if there is not much new in intrepid..
[10:23] <CorpseFeeder> yeryry: I get the warning about only low res, but I don't actually get low res when it loads GDM
[10:24] <busfahrer> Excuse me, is the default Ubuntu kernel a tickless one?
[10:24] <yeryry> CorpseFeeder: yeah.. If its similar to what I had then I guess its failing to load the bad one and loading the good one
[10:24] <CorpseFeeder> yeryry: where do I find the Xorg.conf file?
[10:25] <yeryry> erm /etc/X11/ or something
[10:25] <busfahrer> CorpseFeeder: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:26] <treefolk> CorpseFeeder: sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:26] <PerSeL> to run windows mobile file in ubuntu i need emulator?
[10:26] <treefolk> ;P
[10:27] <CorpseFeeder> yeryry: the file is empty (apart from ## comments and section start/ends)
[10:27] <edlv> how do i play .ape files?
[10:28] <macvr>  hi all...does anyone know where the font config is saved? i seem to have lost ALL the font settings i had set in the appearances font tab... but i have a backup of my system... but i dont know where the font config is saved... so does anyone know where the font config is saved?
[10:29] <remoteCTRL> errr with hwat command do i invoke an upgrade to intrepid?
[10:30] <CorpseFeeder> my xorg.conf file contains no configuration data... this could be my problem - how do I "fill" it?
[10:30] <ziroday> !upgrade | remoteCTRL
[10:30] <remoteCTRL> ziroday: kk thanks
[10:30] <ziroday> Henning: sorry, I had to pop out. In Section "Device" what does Driver say?
[10:30] <busfahrer> Excuse me, is the default Ubuntu kernel a tickless one?
[10:31] <ziroday> busfahrer: I believe so
[10:31] <madduck> what package do I need to install to allow grip to convert to mp3?
[10:31] <Henning> ziroday, section device says Identifier "Configured Video Device"
[10:31] <madduck> or is there a better ripper you would suggest for me (well, my cousin) to use?
[10:31] <pengo> how do i check my cpu power management settings (laptop)
[10:31] <pengo> it used to be in the power management before i upgraded to 8.10
[10:32] <ziroday> Henning: it should say Driver "something"
[10:32] <ziroday> Henning: somewhere in there
[10:32] <RizR> BlueEagle: no luck. X server crashes. error is no screens found.
[10:32] <eightyeight> madduck: lame won't handle it?
[10:32] <Henning> ziroday, it doesn't
[10:32] <ziroday> madduck: convert what to mp3?
[10:32] <madduck> ziroday: CDs ripped
[10:32] <Henning> ziroday, the whole file is awfully short
[10:32] <madduck> eightyeight: I can't find lame in its recommends or suggests
[10:32] <ziroday> Henning: okay add a line that says Driver "vesa"
[10:32] <ziroday> madduck: um, can't use sound juicer?
[10:32] <freex> hi all
[10:33] <ziroday> Henning: in that section
[10:33] <madduck> ziroday: sure, would you suggest that instead?
[10:33] <ziroday> madduck: sound juicer, it rips and can convert cd's to mp3's
[10:33] <Henning> ziroday, now it won't let me type anything
[10:33] <madduck> that's what I want. Just install and no multiverse stuff needed?
[10:33] <ziroday> Henning: how did you open it?
[10:34] <ziroday> madduck: you probably need the mp3 codecs
[10:34] <Henning> ziroday I'm using vi
[10:34] <madduck> ziroday: what are they called and where do I get them? I do not have an Ubuntu system and need to tell my cousin how to do it on hers...
[10:35] <aboSamoor> I am running make depend, it gives errors for .c files so i have to change them to .cc. Although it was compiled in the first time ???
[10:35] <eightyeight> madduck: if you're going to be ripping mp3, you'll need the encoder out of multiverse. i don't know of a 'free' one
[10:35] <madduck> eightyeight: okay, this makes sense. Could you please suggest one that will work with sound-juicer?
[10:35] <saykou> any one knoes how to use wubi
[10:36] <eightyeight> madduck: i don't rip mp3s, but if i were, i would probably turn to sound-juicer and lame.
[10:37] <bazhang> !mp3
[10:37] <eightyeight> madduck: i use sound-juicer for flac and ogg, and it works great
[10:37] <denysonique> Kamil: Hi
[10:37] <ziroday> Henning: you have to open it as root with sudo vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:37] <denysonique> Kamil: How can I help you?
[10:38] <madduck> eightyeight: my cousin's ipod cannot play ogg or flac so those are of no use to her
[10:38] <Henning> ziroday, that's what I did. I'm in vi, looking at the file, but when I try typing, it does weird stuff
[10:38] <eightyeight> madduck: understood. i'm just showing my support for sound-juicer
[10:38] <ziroday> madduck: sorry was away, the instructions bazhang gave you will do the trick
[10:38] <Sertse> hi guys, I finished setting up my desktop.. is there a easy to copy the whole thing over to my laptop?
[10:38] <madduck> bazhang: thanks!
[10:39] <ziroday> Henning: try open it with nano. Do sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:39] <bazhang> madduck, you're welcome
[10:39] <Henning> ziroday, okay, how do I quit vi without saving?
[10:39] <PerSeL> what program i need to open .rar file?
[10:39] <dr_willis> esc :q!
[10:39] <CorpseFeeder> anyone got any more thoughts on my graphics nag screen error at boot up and empty xorg.conf file problem?
[10:39] <dr_willis> !rar | PerSeL
[10:39] <ziroday> Henning: :q! I believe
[10:39] <Sertse> saving me the need to install, remove the apps, do my customisation etc again on the 2nd comp.
[10:40] <bazhang> Sertse, you want to clone?
[10:40] <Kamil> Hey guys, i just installed kubuntu on this comp but i cant get internet to work on it, it works only on xp. Can any1 help me ?
[10:40] <Sertse> probably, if that's its called.
[10:41] <bazhang> Kamil, open a terminal and type ifconfig ; how many entries
[10:41] <bazhang> !cloning | Sertse
[10:41] <Henning> ziroday, done. what now?
[10:41] <denysonique> Kamil: yeah boot ubuntu, login as root
[10:41] <Melik> hey guys i have a quick question, would anyone be willing to help me out in private message?
[10:41] <Kamil> ok
[10:41] <denysonique> Kamil: and then do ifconfig
[10:41] <kemalist> hello
[10:41] <denysonique> Kamil: and save the results
[10:41] <bazhang> denysonique, Kamil use sudo not root
[10:41] <eightyeight> Sertse: there isn't an "easy" way, but there are options available. checkout clonezilla
[10:41] <ziroday> Henning: okay, save, quit and do startx again
[10:42] <kemalist> I have a problem, i checked forums, but it seems peculiar to me
[10:42] <NicEXE> I enabled the bycubic filter on compiz-fusion and I can't see any component (buttons etc.) How to disable the bycubic filter using the root terminal?
[10:42] <kemalist> my new notebook freezes randomly
[10:42] <denysonique> Kamil: type: sudo ifconfig
[10:42] <kemalist> with kernel panic, while loading X
[10:42] <Henning> ziroday, again, fatal error, no screens found
[10:42] <Sertse> thanks :)
[10:42] <Kamil> thanks guys
[10:42] <denysonique> Can someone explain why you have sudo su, not just su in ubuntu?
[10:43] <ziroday> Henning: argh. Do sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:43] <kemalist> cause you will never know root's password
[10:43] <kemalist> :P
[10:43] <bazhang> denysonique, you dont want to use sudo su; only sudo
[10:43] <eightyeight> denysonique: because the sudo is superior to su
[10:43] <bazhang> !sudo
[10:43] <Melik> Hey you know the menu bar at the top left, I go to Places > Home and it gives me this error message: Could not open location 'file:///home/melik' No application is registered in handling this file
[10:43] <NicEXE> I enabled the bycubic filter on compiz-fusion and I can't see any component (buttons etc.) How to disable compiz-fusion using the root terminal?
[10:43] <Melik> how can i fix this?
[10:43] <bazhang> NicEXE, what is bycubic filter
[10:43] <ziroday> Melik: let me get a link for you
[10:44] <eightyeight> denysonique: btw, you should be doing 'sudo -i' instead of 'su -'
[10:44] <denysonique> eightyeight: ie?
[10:44] <denysonique> eightyeight: superior?
[10:44] <Melik> thank you ziroday :)
[10:44] <histo> NicEXE: just hit alt+f2 in gnome and type in metacity --replace and hit enter
[10:44] <epiclulz> hey any of you guys read the two kevin mitnick books?
[10:44] <brrrrrradical> could somebody help me with encoding videos for my ipod classic 6g? i cannot get an ffmpeg  to work for me on intrepid
[10:45] <eightyeight> denysonique: ie: 1) it logs. 2) it's granular for giving access to commands. 3) it discourages logging in as root
[10:45] <bazhang> epiclulz, please discuss in #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:45] <ziroday> Melik: http://ubuntulinuxtipstricks.blogspot.com/2008/10/intrepid-update-faq.html read point 12)
[10:45] <NicEXE> histo: I will boot with recovery mode and select root terminal... There si now GUI methode
[10:45] <epiclulz> thanks
[10:45] <NicEXE> *is
[10:45] <NicEXE> *no
[10:45] <Henning> ziroday, I ran that command and startx'ed, it seems to be working
[10:45] <ziroday> Henning: great
[10:46] <bazhang> brrrrrradical, what command are you using with ffmpeg
[10:46] <Henning> ziroday, this means that from now on it'll run fine?
[10:46] <NicEXE> histo: I will boot with recovery mode and select root terminal... There is no GUI methode
[10:46] <ziroday> Henning: should do
[10:46] <Kamil> Hey, how do i open the terminal ?
[10:46] <histo> NicEXE: You would have to edit xml files in your home I believe.
[10:46] <brrrrrradical> bazhang: i have been trying to use a gui: both thinliquidfilm and winff
[10:46] <ziroday> Kamil: Applications > Accessories > Terminal
[10:46] <histo> NicEXE: I just explained a gui method
[10:46] <Henning> ziroday, alright, great. thanks for your help!
[10:47] <ziroday> Henning: sorry it took so long
[10:47] <PerSeL> i downloaded from rarlab rarlinux 3.8 how do i install this archive to use it as a program?
[10:47] <pengo> how do i check my cpu power management setting?
[10:47] <Melik> yay thanks ziroday, it works now
[10:47] <histo> NicEXE: you don't need to be able to see to type. Just hit alt+F2 and type in "metacity --replace" without the quotes and hit enter.
[10:47] <ziroday> !rar | PerSeL please read the instructions in here
[10:47] <bazhang> PerSeL, no need; install from repos
[10:47] <Henning> ziroday, ain't no thang. :) thanks a lot anyway
[10:47] <slaxaxe> hi room....
[10:48] <PerSeL> bazhang: so how do i use the program?
[10:48] <Henning> ziroday, and have a nice day
[10:48] <Henning> cheers!
[10:48] <ziroday> Henning: you too
[10:48] <PerSeL> bazhang: i have file to unpack using rar
[10:48] <depape> some of our clients upload files to our server via ftp, now I am running a cron script to process these files, is there a way to know if "the files are completly uploaded"? every hint is welcome
[10:48] <Melik> today i am officially a linux user
[10:48] <slaxaxe> anyone familiar with Gnome-Do ?
[10:48] <bazhang> PerSeL, did you install the package?
[10:48] <ziroday> slaxaxe: yes, whats wrong?
[10:48] <PerSeL> bazhang: which one? so i guess none
[10:49] <depape> can i use something like is_file_in_use()? to detect if this file is still uploading?
[10:49] <bazhang> PerSeL, likely the one listed in the !rar link above
[10:49] <tARrAScH> Hello! How can I enter this menu: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Screenshot-GNOME_Keyring.png Was that menu removed in 8.10, since I can't seem to find it
[10:49] <Kerpal> How does one setup a formula for the summation of a fraction such as index=0 count=4 1/(k^2+1)
[10:49] <PerSeL> bazhang well i read it but i guess didn't understood which one?
[10:49] <Kerpal> oops
[10:50] <Kerpal> wrong chan
[10:50] <gavimobile> folks i just did a clean install of ubuntu, and i want to install my graphics card properly... if i enable my restricted driver, AND i use envy to install my nvidia driver, would that be a bad idea?
[10:50] <bazhang> PerSeL, once it is installed you can just right click extract
[10:50] <slaxaxe> ziroday: when I click on the icon in the menu / panel... Gnome-Do doesn't start... where as when I run it in terminal with sudo gnome-do ... it runs... only after taking password.... I tried using the same thing on the panel.... "run application in terminal" ... the terminal opens and asks for password.... please tell me how to run it normally....
[10:50] <bazhang> gavimobile, what version of ubuntu
[10:50] <PerSeL> bazhang: so what i type: sudo apt-get install XXX?
[10:51] <gavimobile> 8.04 and im updating now to the 8.10
[10:51] <bazhang> PerSeL, yes, once the correct repos are enabled
[10:51] <Annirak> My CPU fan is on full blast after a fresh install of 8.10-server.  I need to get it to enable fan scaling.  I've attempted to install lm-sensors, but all the howtos I found were years out of date.  What do I do?
[10:51] <PerSeL> bazhang: so how it called so i can search for it
[10:51] <tARrAScH> gavimobile, I've heard envy is always bad to use :s, I think that would be what ubottu says, try !envy
[10:51] <bazhang> gavimobile, in intrepid there will be no need for that envyng
[10:52] <bazhang> gavimobile, just go to hardware drivers
[10:52] <gavimobile> so the restriced driver is good enough
[10:52] <ziroday> slaxaxe: in the terminal does typing gnome-do make it start?
[10:52] <gavimobile> it seems when i install the restricted driver.. then alot of time my movies are choppy
[10:52] <gavimobile> my video
[10:52] <brrrrrradical> could somebody give me a rundown on how i can convert videos to mp4 for my ipod...
[10:53] <ziroday> brrrrrradical: you can use avidemux
[10:53] <PerSeL> bazhang: i just type in terminal... sudo apt-get install rar
[10:53] <gavimobile> or ffmpeg
[10:53] <CorpseFeeder> since my problem is unsolvable, what is the easiest way to downgrade from 8.10 to 8.04?
[10:53] <slaxaxe> ziroday: no it doesn't start...
[10:53] <brrrrrradical> ziroday: mmmk ... but do you?
[10:53] <bazhang> PerSeL, if you read the link
[10:53] <brrrrrradical> gavimobile: ffmpeg would be my choice if i could get it to work
[10:54] <bazhang> PerSeL, unrar
[10:54] <gavimobile> brrrrrradical, once you install it, you might want to read the manual
[10:54] <brrrrrradical> gavimobile: thnx for that ;)
[10:54] <PerSeL> bazhang: thanks
[10:55] <gavi> brrrrrradical, i wish i could be more detailed... what i did was i searched for sample commands
[10:55] <PerSeL> how do i run windows mobile program?
[10:55] <kongove> hello
[10:55] <gavi> i changed the file name and the bitrate of the sample commands and it worked for me!
[10:55] <bazhang> PerSeL, which app
[10:55] <PerSeL> igo
[10:55] <kongove> Is there anybody use git-send-email?
[10:55] <gavi> PerSeL, is that a windows application?
[10:55] <kongove> I can't find this command. in 8.10
[10:55] <slaxaxe> ziroday: I found this when I run gnome-do in terminal "Failed to create directory /home/human/.local/share/gnome-do: Access to the path "/home/human/.local/share" is denied."
[10:55] <PerSeL> windows mobile application
[10:56] <gavi> PerSeL, so check the wine website if its compatable
[10:56] <PerSeL> it won't run in windows only in windows mobile
[10:56] <tARrAScH> How do I remove my password for GNOME Keyring, I don't want to enter it every session anymore
[10:56] <gavi> if not you might want to look in to vbox
[10:56] <brrrrrradical> gavi: ok, i will look into it. cheers :)
[10:57] <gavi> brrrrrradical, also someone posted above a gui which can do it... but i havent found a good gui for converting multimedia in linux yet
[10:57] <rien-ne-va-plus> hi everyone
[10:57] <kongove> Hello
[10:57] <brrrrrradical> gavi: yer theyre all pretty weak ... but thinliquidfilm was working :(
[10:57] <kongove> Is there anyone use git-send-email?
[10:57] <brrrrrradical> does anybody know anything about floola? i set it up with my ipod and now it closes on startup
[10:57] <gavi> brrrrrradical, cool
[10:57] <rien-ne-va-plus> I've got a little problem, im trying to watch dvb-t with totem, but it seems like i cant figure out which plugins he needs
[10:58] <ziroday> slaxaxe: okay, that looks like a permissions problem. What are the permissions on ~/.local and I presume your are human?
[10:58] <rien-ne-va-plus> i installed kaffeine, which works, but i prefer not to have all the KDE modules installed
[10:58] <PerSeL> and wine do not support windows mobile files
[10:58] <rien-ne-va-plus> so what do i need to install, to watch dvb-t with totem?
[10:58] <gavi> hey does anyone know if vhcs can be installed in ubuntu 8.04 or 8.10
[10:59] <ziroday> brrrrrradical: yes I do use avidemux and its very easy. It has a prebuilt options for ipod so you load your video select the ipod preload and its off
[10:59] <Gaspode42> Can anybody help me get my system running again? I am (was) running 8.04.1 (2.6.24-21) and tried to install some software by hand. Now the system wont boot - it starts normally, clears the screen and givies the animated cursor and then goes no further. I have tried booting in safemode and doing 'fix X server' but his does not help. Any assistance would be much appreciated.
[10:59] <safa>  I've got a little problem,i can't change my screen luminosity
[11:00] <gavi> Gaspode42, try changing the kernel
[11:00] <s4n7o> Muy buenas. Quería pedir ayuda sobre un problema de sonido que tengo con el sonido en Ubuntu Hardy 8.04. Mi tarjeta de sonido es una realtek ALC8800 y mi problema es q se escucha muy bajo, demasiado diria yo. He subido todo en el alsamixer y en el volumen normal y nada. He intentado mil cosas y nada. Agradeceria la ayuda. ;)
[11:00] <slaxaxe> ziroday: just checked... I am human... :) ... .local properties shows the owner as root ... I guess that should be changed... but how ?
[11:00] <tARrAScH> !spanish | s4n7o
[11:00] <PerSeL> anyone can help me with windows mobile program to run on linux
[11:01] <Gaspode42> gavi: Tried the other option in grub but get same response or is that not what you mean? I am new to all this which is probable why I broke it to start with!
[11:01] <gavi> PerSeL, did u rread what i wrote before?
[11:01] <bazhang> PerSeL, perhaps wine
[11:01] <orgthingy> damn sound problems
[11:01] <orgthingy> if i left my laptop turned on @ night
[11:01] <PerSeL> wine do not support it
[11:01] <gavi> Gaspode42, hrm... maybe save everything in your /home/ directory and reinstall ubuntu
[11:01] <orgthingy> then come back @ morning.. it simply doesnt work anymore
[11:01] <PerSeL> i read the futures
[11:01] <ziroday> slaxaxe: one sec
[11:02] <orgthingy> why does ubuntu have these annoying sound problems :|
[11:02] <gavi> PerSeL, than vbox
[11:02] <bazhang> PerSeL, perhaps virtual box then
[11:02] <phanter> hi there
[11:02] <dekkong> orgthingy: I have no sound problems at all
[11:02] <ziroday> slaxaxe: okay. do you know how to show hidden folders?
[11:02] <phanter> i am now in puppy linux because my xubuntu install refuses to install GRUB. How can i install GRUB from here?
[11:02] <Gaspode42> gavi: OK I was hoping I did not have to do that as I have no media and can't remember how I did it to start with. Oh well such is life! ;-)
[11:03] <Thehotsauce> Hey guys, i typed: sudo config in terminal just like u told me to do but then it asks me for a password.. i donno what the pass is. Can you help me ?
[11:03] <zai> salut
[11:03] <abayomi> Help, I just installed ubuntu 8.10 on my laptop but the speaker and the earpiece are working together at the same time
[11:03] <zai> comment on va sur ubuntu fr
[11:03] <ziroday> !fr | zai
[11:03] <gavi> Gaspode42, what do u mean, no media?
[11:03] <bazhang> zai /join #ubuntu-fr
[11:03] <orgthingy> dekkong : weird
[11:03] <slaxaxe> ziroday: in terminal or file manager? ... enabled show hidden files and I saw the properties from file manager
[11:03] <orgthingy> abayomi : hmm, click on sound icon @ gnome-panel (top)
[11:04] <orgthingy> then configure it
[11:04] <bazhang> Thehotsauce, ifconfig
[11:04] <dekkong> orgthingy:can u explain your problem?
[11:04] <PerSeL> It looks like Vbox also don't support windows mobile
[11:04] <orgthingy> dekkong : it doesnt play at all
[11:04] <orgthingy> :-)
[11:04] <orgthingy> thats my problem..
[11:04] <Gaspode42> gavi: I also have SUSE on this box and it got rather confusing (for me) when I did the install. I will have to download again?
[11:04] <Thehotsauce> yeah i typed it ifconfig
[11:04] <orgthingy> if i like keep my laptop opened at night
[11:04] <ziroday> slaxaxe: file manager, you want to do it in the terminal you can do chmod u=rwx ~/.local
[11:04] <orgthingy> then come back at morning, it doesnt play sound anymore
[11:04] <bazhang> PerSeL, then you may wish to check the ubuntuforums
[11:04] <gavi> PerSeL, vbox is virtual windows
[11:04] <dekkong> orgthingy: when did you install it?
[11:04] <orgthingy> dekkong : it?
[11:04] <Thehotsauce> then it asks for a password
[11:04] <dekkong> orgthingy: Ubuntu
[11:05] <bazhang> Thehotsauce, just ifconfig not sudo ifconfig
[11:05] <kafle> find
[11:05] <Thehotsauce> ok ty
[11:05] <orgthingy> dekkong : i had debian since 90's.. then ubuntu since 6.06.. sound problems started liek this  year in ubuntu
[11:05] <Tyrath> On boot the ubuntu logo and progress bar are outside the screen. Is there any way to fix this?
[11:05] <gavi> if it doesnt work in vbox, which i doubt, than u must install windows alone
[11:05] <dekkong> orgthingy: ok and you use ALSA?
[11:05] <phanter> i guess I have to work with chroot, but I am not sure how to do this.
[11:05] <orgthingy> dekkong : audiotestsrc wave=sine freq=512 ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink: Failed to connect: Connection refused  (sound prefrences when i want to test it)
[11:05] <phanter> I can chroot the drive, but what then?
[11:05] <tolstiy> hi all, name me pliz analog of ActiveSync for Ubuntu
[11:06] <gavi> Gaspode42, i didnt really understand... all the information though was saved in you /home/username diectoy
[11:06] <orgthingy> i think so
[11:06] <ziroday> orgthingy: I have the same issue as well, if you find a fix please tell :)
[11:06] <gavi> Gaspode42, so just save that diectoy and reinstall
[11:06] <orgthingy> ziroday : i found a solution in 8.04
[11:06] <orgthingy> but it doesnt seem to work in 8.10
[11:07] <Gaspode42> gavi: Yes I understand what I mean is I will have to download OS again as I can't find the DVD!
[11:07] <slaxaxe> ziroday: did that.... no luck....
[11:07] <Tyrath> anyone?
 i think so
[11:07] <gavi> Gaspode42, you can always download netinstalls which are under 200 mbs
[11:07] <ziroday> slaxaxe: so the file permissions didn't change?
[11:07] <fogobogo> Tyrath: what?
[11:08] <Tyrath> fogobogo: the ubuntu logo and progress bar are half outside the screen on boot
[11:08] <gavi> Gaspode42, are u using suse or ubuntu?
[11:08] <phanter> maybe you know why it does not install GRUB (i booted from a USB device to install xubuntu on my eeepc900)
[11:08] <slaxaxe> ziroday: I guess so
[11:08] <Tyrath> fogobogo: would you know how to fix this?
[11:08] <ziroday> slaxaxe: um, do it with sudo infront
 I want it to recognize when I plug in the earpiece
[11:08] <slaxaxe> ziroday: yup did that
[11:08] <orgthingy> abayomi : i dont have same issue
[11:08] <ziroday> slaxaxe: and the file permissions don't change?
[11:08] <funkyHat> In evolution, when I sign a message with PGP can I make it put the signature in a header rather than in text in the body of the email?
[11:08] <Gaspode42> gavi: At the moment I am running SUSE and I can't get the ubuntu to boot - they are both on the same box.
[11:08] <orgthingy> abayomi : ive been using linux since 90's.. first time i see this issue, please report this bug to ubuntu :)
[11:09] <gavi> Gaspode42, i see
[11:09] <fogobogo> Tyrath: seems to me that either the wrong framebuffer is loaded or the monitor isnt calibrated for such a low videomode
[11:09] <gavi> Gaspode42, i dont know anything about suse, but i hope it would use ext2 or ext3 for disk partitions
[11:09] <fogobogo> Tyrath: brb
[11:09] <slaxaxe> ziroday: yea.... I check all again.... no change in permissions
[11:09] <gavi> that means it should be easy for you to back up
[11:10] <ziroday> slaxaxe: impossible. You sure you tried it with sudo infront?
[11:10] <tolstiy> help me, please, with my windows mobile smartphone.
[11:10] <Gaspode42> gavi: Thanks, I will go and have a play ...
[11:10] <slaxaxe> ziroday: need a screenshot ?
[11:10] <Tyrath> fogobogo: well the thing is I set vga=791 in menu.lst because the only way I can run fbi is if it's on that mode
[11:10] <ziroday> slaxaxe: I believe you :). try it with a new user
[11:10] <fogobogo> Tyrath: load an other framebuffer
[11:11] <slaxaxe> ziroday: new user ?
[11:11] <fogobogo> Tyrath: fb2 for example
[11:11] <ziroday> slaxaxe: create a new user and see if the issue persists there
[11:12] <Tyrath> fogobogo: I wouldn't know how to do that :/
[11:13] <slaxaxe> ziroday: I upgraded  ubuntu from 7.10 to 8.04 then again from 8.04 to 8.10 ... does this have to do anything with it ?
[11:13] <fogobogo> Tyrath: there are probably many ways. but i would recommend you edit grubs menu.lst
[11:13] <fogobogo> Tyrath: as root. there should be the kernel line
[11:14] <slaxaxe> ziroday: did that a week back...
[11:14] <fogobogo> Tyrath: sorry. my bad
[11:14] <ThomasD> is it safe to remove dbus? i installed xubuntu on an old box and I use it as router and firewall
[11:14] <fogobogo> Tyrath: it aint there.
[11:14] <Tyrath> fogobogo: I couldn't potentially screw up my whole OS could I? I've just spent ages reinstalling and setting everything up again after I screwed up a partition
[11:14] <Kamil> Hi, i typed ifconfig in terminal like u told me to do but stil i have no internet on my linux
[11:14] <Neurolysis> Hey guys, if anyone could take a look over this thread and just tell me what is wrong - you don't even have to tell me how to fix it if you don't know or don't have time, I just need to work out what the hell is going on: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=982819
[11:14] <bazhang> ThomasD, why would you want to do that?
[11:15] <ThomasD> bazhang: ist a dependency of consolekit
[11:15] <fogobogo> Tyrath: well.. it might happen that you wont be able to boot so easily if you had typonitis
[11:15] <denysonique> Kamil: what did ifconfig say?
[11:15] <bazhang> ThomasD, what are you trying to achieve
[11:15] <cafuego> dd
[11:15] <zsb> hej!
[11:15] <Edu> HY
[11:15] <fogobogo> Tyrath: anyway. lets try something else
[11:15] <ThomasD> bazhang: and colsolekit has a bug, it always opens 50-100 instances
[11:15] <BlueEagle> Do I need an imap server or can I just run a pop3 server?
[11:15] <fogobogo> e
[11:15] <Edu> I have a problem
[11:15] <slaxaxe> ziroday: brb..
[11:16] <Kamil> my ip mask and everything, also said that its connected
[11:16] <Edu> hellow
[11:16] <denysonique> Kamil: yes but we need the details
[11:16] <bazhang> ThomasD, dont remove it
[11:16] <denysonique> Kamil: what exactly it said.
[11:16] <ThomasD> bazhang: is dbus a necessary package, thats all i need to know
[11:16] <Edu> I have a probliem wit the pc on ubuntu
[11:16] <fogobogo> Tyrath: do you know your way with rmmod and modprobe?
[11:16] <ThomasD> Edu: you have problem with ubuntu on pc
[11:17] <Edu> yes
[11:17] <bazhang> Kamil, how many listings in ifconfig
[11:17] <Tyrath> fogobogo: lol. sorry I'm also trying to get a better version of vim. the one that comes preinstalled on ibex is very outdated
[11:17] <Edu> wit the grapics !!
[11:17] <orgthingy> ziroday : open terminal and type "sudo  alsa force-reload"
[11:17] <orgthingy> now sound works
[11:17] <Edu> of the scrim
[11:17] <orgthingy> dirty solution, but it works :)
[11:17] <Tyrath> fogobogo: whilst I've used modprobe once I had absolutely no idea what I was doing = no
[11:18] <Edu> Tomas ?¿
[11:18] <bazhang> Edu, please tell us your problem all on one line; dont use the enter key so much
[11:18] <ThomasD> Edu: what is your native language?
[11:18] <Edu> my native language is spanis
[11:18] <ThomasD> !es | Edu
[11:18] <fogobogo> Tyrath: i see. basically when you boot up the kernel loads all your hardware drivers
[11:18] <Edu> okey
[11:18] <Edu> tanks
[11:18] <fogobogo> Tyrath: those drivers are called modules since they arent compiled into the kernel
[11:19] <Tyrath> fogobogo: ahh ok
[11:19] <steveccc> hi all - i have installed 8.10 and very impressed but I wondered if it is possible to create an encrypted disk - i have a usb disk which i would like to fully encrypt
[11:19] <Tyrath> fogobogo: this won't effect my ability to have the console vga setting on 791 will it?
[11:19] <fogobogo> Tyrath: modprobe now tries to add another driver(module) that might give some benefit
[11:19] <fogobogo> Tyrath: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrameBuffer
[11:19] <fogobogo> Tyrath: had a look there?
[11:20] <Tyrath> |wget
[11:20] <Tyrath> grr sorry - thought that would let me use shell
[11:20] <orgthingy> i dont get it, why is ubuntu's wiki in https :P ?
[11:20] <Tyrath> does anyone know how to use shell whilst in irssi or do I have to open another console?
[11:20] <fogobogo> Tyrath: /exec does i think
[11:21] <Tyrath> fogobogo: I'd do it with elinks anyway
[11:21] <orgthingy> tyrath : ?.. anyway, ctrl+shift+t
[11:21] <Tyrath> orgthingy: doesn't seem to be working :/
[11:21] <orgthingy> tyrath : just get ROXterm :P
[11:21] <orgthingy> hell with gnome-terminal
[11:21] <tolstiy_> !help
[11:21] <riegersn> !search terminal
[11:21] <phanter> \\bye
[11:22] <bazhang> tolstiy_, use virtual box for that
[11:22] <bazhang> oops
[11:22] <Tyrath> !ROXterm
[11:22] <fogobogo> Tyrath: especially have an eye on the last few lines
[11:22] <gnuskool> steveccc, it is possible, though sadly i dont have a definitive method to tell you, but i read it somewhere, not much help , i know, but wait a while, someone might answer
[11:23] <steveccc> gnuskool - ok thanks
[11:23] <tolstiy_> bazhang, active sync for windows on vbox?
[11:23] <bazhang> steveccc, you can use truecrypt
[11:23] <bazhang> !truecrypt
[11:23] <Tyrath> fogobogo: you're explaining to me a way to fix the grub framebuffer yes? cause the thing is my GUI looks perfect and console looks perfect so it's just boot that needs work
[11:23] <tarun> hi
[11:23] <tarun> everyone
[11:23] <bazhang> tolstiy_, for your windows mobile phone?
[11:23] <steveccc> bazhang: is it simple to use
[11:23] <orgthingy> Tyrath : sudo apt-get install roxterm
[11:23] <orgthingy> !roxterm
[11:23] <orgthingy> w00t
[11:23] <bazhang> steveccc, fairly so
[11:23] <Tyrath> fogobogo: boots looks < GUI looks && boot looks < console looks
[11:24] <BlastuR> anyone know how i can reconfigure which sound mixer is regulated when i use my "volume wheel" on the keyboard in ubuntu? I have adjusted the volume control in traybar so it uses the correct mixer, but it doesn't seem to apply to the 'volume wheel'..
[11:24] <tolstiy_> bazhang, yeap, i-mate wm 2005
[11:24] <Tyrath> orgthingy: what is it?
[11:24] <blz777__> Hello, i just managed to enable the direct rendering of my openchrome video card, but i'm using ubuntu 7.10 and i have a lot of updates that want to be downloaded and installed, so my question is: how can i update and not damage my video drivers!?
[11:24] <orgthingy> Tyrath : something better than gnome-terminal and konsole
[11:24] <yacek19> hi
[11:24] <yacek19> I replaced my old 2x2GB ram with new 2x2GB ram units. When I leave my laptop for several minutes, I can boot linux successfully, but when I stress the ram with memtest, then reboot, I get kernel panic at boot
[11:24] <yacek19> please please help me
[11:25] <Fiberchunks> howdy, what's the package name for the opengl development libraries
[11:25] <Tyrath> orgthingy: I don't understand what you mean by better - they all take unix commands... they all do similar things. and additionally I can use console to view images, listen to music, surf the web, etc. so I don't see the point
[11:26] <fogobogo> Tyrath: http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-HOWTO/Framebuffer-HOWTO.html <--might help you too
[11:26] <smokewon> Hey there, does anyone know of any channels on this server that can help me get some infomation regarding dhcp pool addressing? sorry of being offtopic
[11:26] <fogobogo> orgthingy: rxvt-unicode is damn neat
[11:26] <woody86> so what's the whole point of having the "Desktop Box" thing rather than just having the icons appear on the desktop like they always do?
[11:26] <Tyrath> can someone explain to me why the default vim on ibex (whilst apparently it is 7.1 according to --version) doesn't have the :syntax on option?
[11:26] <Frogzoo> smokewon: what's to know?
[11:27] <fogobogo> Tyrath: :set syntax?
[11:27] <smokewon> Frogzoo this bascially: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=982844
[11:27] <Tyrath> fogobogo: tried that
[11:27] <smokewon> ^my thread
[11:27] <fogobogo> Tyrath: :help syntax?
[11:27] <Tyrath> fogobogo: Sorry, no help for syntax
[11:28] <Tyrath> fogobogo: that's what it tol me
[11:28] <BulBulRed> Tyrath: sudo apt-get install vim
[11:28] <BulBulRed> the default (i think) is a lightweight version
[11:28] <BulBulRed> (not sure)
[11:28] <Tyrath> BulBulRed: ah k
[11:28] <fogobogo> Tyrath: mine works. but then again im not in ubuntu
[11:28] <Tyrath> BulBulRed: will give it a shot
[11:28] <Tyrath> fogobogo: that would explain a lot :P
[11:29]  * Tyrath actually does love ibex tho. it is so sexy
[11:29] <freex> re
[11:29] <freex> hi all
[11:29]  * Tyrath just hates how when his computer is about to power out how he doesn't get a notification
[11:30] <tolstiy_> can I start ActiveSync under wine?
[11:30] <dida> hi all, i'm having problem extracting a tar.bz2 file
[11:30] <Tyrath> dida: tar jxvf <filename.tar.bz2> should do it
[11:31] <BulBulRed> btw Tyrath: there is an option: syntax <on/off> in the vimrc file
[11:31] <BulBulRed> try enabling it (if disabled)
[11:31] <dida> yeah Tyrath, got this when i ran that:
[11:31] <BulBulRed> "sudo vim /etc/vim/vimrc"
[11:31] <dida> bzip2: Data integrity error when decompressing.
[11:31] <dida> 	Input file = (stdin), output file = (stdout)
[11:31] <dida> It is possible that the compressed file(s) have become corrupted.
[11:31] <Tyrath> BulBulRed: yep. for some silly reason there's no .vimrc file either haha
[11:31] <Tyrath> BulBulRed: I sorta use vim a fair bit so I get some of the ins and outs
[11:31] <dida> Tyrath: i check the md5sum
[11:32] <BulBulRed> are you sure? try finding it: "sudo updatedb && locate vimrc"
[11:32] <Tyrath> BulBulRed: I just reinstalled ibex the other day, hence the problem
[11:32] <dida> and they're the same
[11:32] <BulBulRed> ah
[11:32] <Tyrath> BulBulRed: I've already tried locate .vimrc to no avail
[11:32] <lee_1> hi, I followed the tutorial at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=622018 (but on 8.10) and I just get told I have specified an undefined video mode... what am I doing wrong?
[11:32] <Tyrath> BulBulRed: I also tried apropos .vimrc to no avail :P
[11:32] <fogobogo> Tyrath: theres often none given.
[11:32] <BulBulRed> Tyrath: than it is best to reinstall vim
[11:32] <BulBulRed> and alter vimrc to your best wishes
[11:33] <fogobogo> Tyrath: usually you have some template though somewhere for .something files
[11:33] <BulBulRed> here's an example: http://www.robodesign.ro/files/linux/.vimrc
[11:33] <BulBulRed> :p
[11:33] <Tyrath> dida: that is extremely odd. I'd suggest reinstalling tar or installing mc
[11:33] <BulBulRed> or get e-book: "hacking VIM"
[11:33] <BulBulRed> it's a great help
[11:33] <BulBulRed> brb
[11:33] <KFC> how to using ubuntu setup a vpn ????
[11:34] <fogobogo> KFC: with openvpn
[11:34] <lee_1> does anyone know how I can get my tty video modes to 1440x900 (nvidia 8600 gt)?
[11:34] <KFC> openvpn is server for vpn ?
[11:35] <fogobogo> KFC: ask google. he knows
[11:35] <histo> !info openvpn
[11:36] <tolstiy_> !info synce
[11:37] <supervivid> hi
[11:37] <supervivid> i' having some problem with my Dell XPS, anyone can help?
[11:38] <pyrohotdog> Is there a way to launch the screensaver for only one of two displays?
[11:38] <steveccc> bazhang: just installed truecrypt - dont suppose you know your encryption algorithms do you - i have a choice but dont know what is more secure or what is standard etc
[11:39] <supervivid> #ubuntu-au
[11:39] <bazhang> steveccc, hang on, just reading the faq
[11:40] <steveccc> bazhang: its crazy some encrypt 3 times with 3 keys
[11:40] <Frogzoo> steveccc: only if you take your CP seriously..
[11:41] <bazhang> http://www.truecrypt.org/docs/?s=tutorial steveccc I would start here; there are screenshots and everything
[11:41] <steveccc> frogzoo: cp? i just want my usb disk encrypted so that people cant get my work if i loose it - not securing national data or anything - thus was thinking aes as its pretty standard isnt it
[11:41] <Frogzoo> steveccc: aes is fine
[11:42] <smokewon> is it possible to have a dhcp service assign an address scope on a C class range and another scope on say like B class range?
[11:42] <smokewon> *same dhcp service
[11:42] <Frogzoo> smokewon: on different vlans, yes
[11:42] <smokewon> oh ok, thanks
[11:43] <Neurolysis> supervivid: it is often better to state the question instead of asking if people can help
[11:43] <Tyrath> BulBulRed: well I wgeted your .vimrc link into ~ and it seems to have solved the vim syntax issue :P
[11:43] <supervivid> ok, sorry
[11:44] <supervivid> http://paste.ubuntu.com/72309/ - please refer to my syslog
[11:44] <supervivid> i'm running Intrepid on a Dell XPS 1330
[11:44] <Tyrath> BulBulRed: I must add. The colors are really pretty :P
[11:46] <supervivid> my system stopped responding at 7am in the morning, and the only way to recover it is by rebooting the system by pressing on the power button
[11:47] <Enselic> supervivid: are you sure it is not only the X server that has hanged?
[11:47] <Thaurwylth> File system problem. I made a copy of my HD with cp -a (basically) and also changed /etc/fstab on the new disk accordingly. However, on boot the system still tries to force old UUID data.
[11:47] <mrbeano> is the intel x4500 going to work with linux ... ever
[11:47] <Tyrath> would anyone know how I could configure irssi to let me go to links that people post, like through piping the link into another prog or something - even better, opening up the link in another prog
[11:47] <Thaurwylth> Suspicion: Is this an initrd problem?
[11:47] <mrbeano> this is so frustrating
[11:48] <Thaurwylth> And if yes, how to edit initrd stuff in U8.04?
[11:48] <supervivid> i;m not too sure, clicking on the mouse buttons, keyboard keys, does not revive blank screen
[11:48] <mrbeano> *sigh*
[11:48] <bziobnic2> my apt directory shows '?' for owner and group and root can't reset them
[11:49] <CorpseFeeder> how do I enable restricted drivers?
[11:49] <bziobnic2> the perms in 'ls' display as:?---------  ? ?         ?           ?                ?
[11:49] <kemalist> any known issue about compaq hp laptops?
[11:49] <Tyrath> also would anyone use alpine and know how I could set it up so that i don't have to constantly type my passwords for my email clients
[11:49] <steveccc> frogzoo: it takes a while doesnt it - predicting 2 days to format and encrypt
[11:49] <kemalist> ubuntu keeps freezing itself randmoly
[11:49] <aprilhare> hello. my intrepid install defaults to opening pdf files with text editor. how can i change that to a pdf application?
[11:49] <bziobnic2> I can't delete or change the permissions on /var/lib/apt and I can't install anything
[11:49] <Kamil> hey, for the person who asked what my ifconfig message says: http://rafb.net/p/OEBKRv22.html
[11:50] <Kamil> and internet still not workin :(
[11:50] <Tyrath> bziobnic2: it's not hard. I can't remember how to do it though. have a hunt for a linux/ubuntu tutorial. maybe search up USER= PASS= in google?
[11:50] <aprilhare> to be exact, it defauts to gedit for pdf files.
[11:50] <Tyrath> so I'm guessing no-one uses alpine or irssi :/
[11:51] <Tyrath> anyhow I'm going to roll cause I have an exam in 2 days
[11:51] <mrbeano> anyone ?
[11:51] <Tyrath> thanks for the help people
[11:53] <Kamil> Hey guys, just installed linux on this comp and the internet wont work on it, i was told to type in ifconfig in terminal but it still wont work, heres what the ifconfig says: http://rafb.net/p/OEBKRv22.html
[11:53] <darx> hi folks,
[11:53] <darx> can somebody confirm if youtube videos are loading?
[11:54] <Frogzoo> darx: is the pope catholic?
[11:54] <aprilhare> hello. my intrepid install defaults to opening pdf files with text editor. how can i change that to a pdf application? to be exact, it defauts to gedit for pdf files.
[11:54] <tARrAScH> mrbeano , restate your problem, not your frustration. Since people swinging by the chat know your problem
[11:54] <darx> Frogzoo: Perhaps
[11:54] <BulBulRed> aprilhare: select a pdf, right click it, properties
[11:54] <BulBulRed> "open with"
[11:54] <BulBulRed> change that to pdf program
[11:54] <mrbeano> tARrAScH, i can't find anyone anywhere who has got this working
[11:55] <tARrAScH> mrbeano: I have no idea what your problem even is
[11:55] <BlastuR> Kamil, your network card has no IP address
[11:55] <mrbeano> tARrAScH, the intel gms x4500hd graphics card bombs
[11:55] <aprilhare> Frogzoo, actually he can be a layperson under catholic law. and records can be lost regards baptism. so as such yes a pope might not *theoretically* be catholic. but the current one is :D
[11:55] <mrbeano> the best i can do with it is 800x600 in VESA mode
[11:55] <Kamil> how do i set it up ?
[11:55] <mrbeano> it blows
[11:55] <martin_> drax, yes they are
[11:55] <BlastuR> Kamil, do you have a DHCP server running on your network, or do you use a static IP?
[11:55] <Frogzoo> aprilhare: lol wtf?
[11:55] <kemalist> any known issue about compaq hp laptops?
[11:55] <kemalist> ubuntu keeps freezing itself randmoly
[11:55] <Kamil> static IP
[11:56] <darx> martin: thanks
[11:56] <martin_> okay
[11:56] <BlastuR> Kamil, which version of Ubuntu are you using?
[11:56] <tARrAScH> mrbeano: erm, so you can't increase your resolution due to the graphic card doesn't work properly?
[11:56] <Kamil> kubuntu 6.06
[11:56] <mrbeano> the native driver doesn't work, period
[11:56] <aprilhare> BulBulRed, no such option. you select open with, a menu appears, you can select the pdf  app and open the pdf file with it, but no default option.
[11:56] <aprilhare> BulBulRed, that is, once selected it forgets.
[11:56] <BlastuR> Kamil, open /etc/network/interfaces in your favorite editor (as root)
[11:57] <CorpseFeeder> how do I enable restricted drivers? where do I find the option to turn them on?
[11:57] <BulBulRed> did you try opening another pdf aprilhare ?
[11:57] <subbu> hi  i hv a compaq presario v2000 laptop with intrepid, how do i setup dual monitor?
[11:57] <Kamil> ok and then what ?
[11:57] <BlastuR> CorpseFeeder, in the menu System -> Administration -> Hardware drivers
[11:57] <aprilhare> BulBulRed, as many as i can find. same thing.
[11:58] <BulBulRed> aprilhare: the "properties > open with" says: "Select an application to open X.pdf and other files of type "PDF""
[11:58] <martin_> does anyone know how to remove unwanted driver/kernel modules that are not needed?
[11:58] <BulBulRed> hmm ok
[11:58] <aprilhare> BulBulRed, tried that it forgets every time
[11:59] <CorpseFeeder> BlastuR: ok.. thanks. I think there is something wrong because my hardware drivers window is empty.
[11:59] <aprilhare> it's got gedit on the brain :) still doing it.
[11:59] <edward__> hello
[11:59] <edward__> hello
[11:59] <CorpseFeeder> hi
[11:59] <BulBulRed> aprilhare: you could try it the hard way
[11:59] <BulBulRed> aprilhare: sudo vim /usr/share/applications/defaults.list
[11:59] <BlastuR> Kamil, add this: http://pastebin.com/m40cdbb84
[12:00] <andres01> hello
[12:00] <denysonique> Kamil: you have dynamic ip
[12:00] <BulBulRed> brb
[12:00] <denysonique> Kamil: do you have a router
[12:00] <denysonique> ?
[12:00] <Kamil> yes im using a router
[12:00] <BlastuR> he said he have a static IP
[12:00] <BlastuR> oh okay
[12:00] <Kamil> no no, i have a router
[12:00] <denysonique> BlastuR: he doesn't what that means
[12:01] <sainathas> i used devilspie to move my application from one view port to another .But it is not being focussed
[12:01] <CorpseFeeder> I have a graphics card which apparently is unsupported in 8.10. How do I downgrade to 8.04 without losing all my data?
[12:01] <denysonique> BlastuR: doesn't know.
[12:01] <sainathas> the focus remains at first view port
[12:01] <BlastuR> Kamil, in that case, just add "auto eth0" and "iface eth0 inet dhcp" in your /etc/network/interfaces (one line each)
[12:01] <BlastuR> Kamil, and then do "/etc/init.d/networking restart" from a root terminal
[12:02] <aprilhare> thanks BulBulRed but i'll stick to nano. vim sends me blind (and confused). :)
[12:02] <ardchoille> What is ~/.gegl-0.0 used for in Intrepid?
[12:02] <sainathas> can u tell me how to change focus into port which i have moved my application?
[12:02] <denysonique> BlastuR: so kubuntu doesn't have it by default?
[12:02] <BulBulRed> hehe aprilhare try "vimtutor"
[12:02] <BlastuR> denysonique, no idea :)
[12:02] <Kamil> BlastuR: thanks
[12:02] <BulBulRed> to help you work with vim :p
[12:02] <Thaurwylth> So, does initrd store information about hard disks somewhere? If yes, can it be edited somehow?
[12:02] <ardchoille> nvm, found it: gegl - Generic Graphics Library Test Program
[12:03] <denysonique> what is the default dhcpcd in kubuntu?
[12:03] <aprilhare> BulBulRed, vim left me traumatised
[12:03] <aprilhare> :
[12:03] <aprilhare> :
[12:03] <FloodBot1> aprilhare: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:03] <BlastuR> denysonique, i run ubuntu intrepid myself so
[12:03] <denysonique> BlastuR: it would be better if Kamil would run the dhcpcd client first
[12:03] <aprilhare> ok the default application is listed thus: application/pdf=evince.desktop
[12:04] <aprilhare> have i missed someting
[12:04] <denysonique> BlastuR: and then we can help him with editing the file
[12:04] <BlastuR> denysonique, really? not dhclient?
[12:04] <kkady32> webcam zc0303 not work in 8.10 with gspca driver
[12:04] <denysonique> BlastuR: I by dhcpcd i meant dhcp cliend
[12:04] <denysonique> BlastuR: I by dhcpcd i meant dhcp client
[12:05] <CorpseFeeder> my graphics card worked perfectly in 8.04. In 8.10 I get "Ubuntu is running in low-graphics mode. Your screen, graphics card, and input device setings could not be detected correctly. You will need to configure these yourself" I don't know how to do what it asks and no one here seems to know either. So I have no choice but to go back to 8.04. How do I do that without over-writing my drive?
[12:05] <aprilhare> BulBulRed, where do i go from here?
[12:06] <tARrAScH> corpsefeeder have you googled 'Ubuntu 8.10 <graphics card name>' ?
[12:06] <CorpseFeeder> tARrAScH: yes... it does not show up at all
[12:06] <tARrAScH> CorpseFeeder: ok, a though break then :(
[12:07] <ardchoille> CorpseFeeder: which graphics card do you have?
[12:08] <RUMMY> what is best for user ubuntu 8 10 or 8 04
[12:08] <kkady32> webcam zc0303 not work in 8.10 with gspca driver,in 8.04 was work perfekt
[12:08] <CorpseFeeder> ardchoille: ATI Radeon RBV250 [Mobility FireGL 9000]
[12:09] <CorpseFeeder> ardchoille: *no B
[12:09] <ardchoille> CorpseFeeder: ok, lemme look at something
[12:09] <tARrAScH> CorpseFeeder: I reinstalled kubuntu 8.10 on ubuntu 8.10 and then back to ubuntu 8.10 with hardly any problem. Downgrade should  be somewhat harder, but I had no problems at all getting almost everything to work as normal again
[12:09] <tARrAScH> CorpseFeeder: however, i had my /home on separate partition
[12:09] <ardchoille> CorpseFeeder: have you been through this page? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[12:10] <aprilhare> grrr still cannot open a pdf file by simple double clicking - any other ideas?
[12:10]  * aprilhare is open to ritual sacrifice
[12:10] <Typhox> hi
[12:11] <CorpseFeeder> ardchoille:  my card is too old to be supported by the fglrx drivers
[12:11] <Typhox> How do I get my Screen to my beamer?
[12:11] <ardchoille> CorpseFeeder: Oh, ok, that's too bad :(
[12:12] <Typhox> On Windows I just have to press Fn + F8 to switch the mode from LCD to CRT
[12:12] <Typhox> But on Linux I did not find a possibility yet
[12:13] <dr_willis> Typhox,  that often depends on the specific laptop/chipset
[12:13] <CorpseFeeder> ardchoille: why was support for my card in the restricted drivers dropped between 8.04 and 8.10?
[12:13] <dr_willis> Typhox,  ie: i got one laptop - that works.. and another it dont. :)
[12:13] <DarkestSoul> "﻿Invalid or damaged Bootable partition" at boot while trying to boot ubuntu setup with stick ... installed new mbr, nothing changed ... any ideas?
[12:13] <CorpseFeeder> If it worked in 8.04, why was support for my card dropped in 8.10?
[12:14] <leafw> humm ... howcan one re-set the masrter boot record?
[12:14] <leafw> for some reason, the MBR ended up in the USB from which I installed the system
[12:14] <Typhox> So, It is not possible on my Laptop to send the screen to a CRT ?
[12:14] <ardchoille> CorpseFeeder: I think you'd need to ask ATI, I don't think Ubuntu has any say over that
[12:14] <eightyeight> leafw: 'grub-install /dev/sda', or whatever your drive is
[12:14] <a> hi, i have some difficulty making a shortcut
[12:14] <leafw> eightyeight: thank you
[12:14] <eightyeight> leafw: np
[12:15] <Typhox> The NVIDIA X Server Settings seem to be very buggy
[12:15] <eightyeight> a: making a symbolic link you mean?
[12:15] <Typhox> And the extern view is not shown in the "Screen-Resolution"-Dialog
[12:15] <a> eightyeight i want to start a program without searching for it
[12:15] <CorpseFeeder> Do I have to back up my home directory, format my computer and reinstall 8.04, then copy my home directory back to fix it?
[12:16] <a> eightyeight it has no entry in the menu or ion the desktop
[12:16] <CorpseFeeder> Is there no other option to fix this? I need a solution to this within the next 30 days.
[12:16] <eightyeight> a: alt-f2, then type the name of the executable
[12:16] <eightyeight> a: or install gnome-do, press win-space, and do the same
[12:16] <kdogg> a you can create an icon for it too
[12:17] <a> but can i create a link to it or an icon that i just click?
[12:18] <eightyeight> a: right-click desktop, create launcher, fill out the forms, and that should be it
[12:18] <a> kdogg yeah thats what i am trying to do
[12:18] <macpo3> network flaming dismanager - I plugged a mobile phone in via usb to read the sim, got a few network manager messages, now I seem to have lost all ability to resolve dns except manually with the host command - any suggestions?
[12:19] <eightyeight> macpo3: are the contents of /etc/resolv.conf what you would expect?
[12:19] <macpo3> doing manual host lookups and echoing lines to the end of /etc/hosts is not my idea of using a network
[12:19] <kdogg> a right click on the desktop, click create launcher, and type the name of the program in the command box
[12:19] <eightyeight> macpo3: if 'host' is working, then you probably don't have a dns issue
[12:19] <a> eightyeight, it wants a command set which one should i set?
[12:19] <CorpseFeeder> I can't believe upgrading from 8.04 to 8.10 could have caused such an unfixable problem... I don't understand why my video card was detected and working in 8.04 and can't be detected in 8.10.... :(
[12:19] <a> or kdogg
[12:19] <eightyeight> a: whatever the command is
[12:19] <a> its a .exe
[12:19] <jrib> CorpseFeeder: what card?
[12:20] <eightyeight> a: compiled for windows?
[12:20] <macpo3> thank you eightyeight, I think resolv.conf is the issue ..... I can use host for manual lookups only if I specify a server
[12:20] <CorpseFeeder> jrib: ATI Radeon RBV250 [Mobility FireGL 9000]
[12:20] <a> no its a compiled for linux
[12:20] <yereth> hi guys
[12:20] <eightyeight> macpo3: np
[12:20] <yereth> what would you consider the nicest music player on gnome?
[12:20] <kdogg> a, if your program needs a function passed you will have to find out what options there are, but mainly you just need the program name
[12:20] <yereth> I was always using amarok
[12:20] <yereth> anything that can compete?
[12:20] <jrib> CorpseFeeder: did you check if the release notes apply to your card? (I don't know anything about ati cards)
[12:20] <a> kdogg no it wants a command
[12:20] <kdogg> a, what program we talking about?
[12:21] <eightyeight> yereth: exaile is pretty good
[12:21] <a> kdogg i just want to launch this certain file "double click" command
[12:21] <a> kdogg UrbanTerror
[12:21] <yereth> exaile? also with last.fm support and a bit like the amarok playlist?
[12:21] <yereth> uranterror rocks!
[12:21] <yereth> urbanterror*
[12:21] <CorpseFeeder> jrib: yes, there was some mention about ATI cards in the release notes, but they refered to a different range of cards and a different issue.
[12:21] <eightyeight> yereth: yeah. it has a last.fm plugin. banshee is pretty good with last.fm too
[12:21] <a> UrT
[12:21] <dr_willis> Well you have inmpled a, that you are usiong gnome,,  so.. it depends  on if you really areusing gnome or not.
[12:21] <Newb`s> yereth: no , tremulous rox
[12:21] <yereth> Newb`s: tremulous?
[12:21] <kdogg> maybe urbanterror -f    ??That would be like full screen
[12:22] <jrib> CorpseFeeder: so what exactly is your issue?  Does X not start at all?  What driver are you using?
[12:22] <a> dr_willis, its gnome or K something right? i have "about gnome" and stuff
[12:22] <yereth> eightyeight: banshee?
[12:22] <dr_willis> a - sounds like you are usign gnome then..
[12:22] <yereth> I heard this guy talk about some super player on gnome :P
[12:22] <eightyeight> yereth: another good player. isn't that what you asked?
[12:22] <yereth> but can't remember which it was
[12:22] <yereth> yes
[12:22] <Newb`s> yereth: tremulous = http://tremulous.net/
[12:22] <Newb`s> yereth: a very very good game :)
[12:22] <dr_willis> drag antying from the gnome menu, to the desktop to make a launcher, then right click onit to edit its properties.. make it launch whatever you want
[12:22] <yereth> Newb`s: taking a look :)
[12:22] <CorpseFeeder> jrib: my graphics card worked perfectly in 8.04. In 8.10 I get "Ubuntu is running in low-graphics mode. Your screen, graphics card, and input device setings could not be detected correctly. You will need to configure these yourself" I don't know how to do what it asks and no one here seems to know either. So I have no choice but to go back to 8.04. How do I do that without over-writing my drive?
[12:22] <a> dr_willis, it lauches from system files but hasn't installed a shortcut for me in the games folder or the desktop
[12:22] <yereth> eightyeight: so it has a nice library as well?
[12:23] <eightyeight> yereth: i like it
[12:23] <dr_willis> if you have an icon in the menus that launches.. drag the icon to a panel.
[12:23] <dr_willis> or the desktop
[12:23] <yereth> eightyeight: alright trying
[12:23] <kdogg> a, go to a terminal and type urbanterror
[12:23] <jrib> CorpseFeeder: if you are resolute on returning to 8.04, you can only do that by making backups of your data (unless your /home is on its own partition) and reinstalling 8.04
[12:23] <martin_> can anyone explain to me why xfce4 / xubuntu uses more RAM than debian gnome or KDE?
[12:23] <kdogg> a, then tell us what it says
[12:23] <cutee> lo
[12:24] <leafw> when inserting a USB pen, it can't be mounted: apparently only root can. How can this be fixed?
[12:24] <a> dr_willis, nope no icon at all just a folder in the system I can only find if i search, obviously not installed right but the functions are ok
[12:24] <macvr>  hi all...does anyone know where the font config is saved? i seem to have lost ALL the font settings i had set in the appearances font tab... but i have a backup of my system... but i dont know where the font config is saved... so does anyone know where the font config is saved?
[12:24] <CorpseFeeder> jrib: I am only resolute on returning to 8.04 if there is no way to get 8.10 working... so far that seems to be the case :(
[12:24] <eightyeight> leafw: are you inserting the drive during gnome? or a virtual tty?
[12:24] <BlueEagle> RizR: There should be other errors before that.
[12:24] <leafw> eightyeight: in gnome
[12:24] <jmmg> hello guys
[12:24] <yereth> I just run ./ioUrbanTerror.x86_64 which works fine
[12:24] <jrib> CorpseFeeder: can you answer all the questions I asked?
[12:24] <eightyeight> leafw: and it is not auto-mounting to /media/?
[12:25] <markginter31> leafw did you run nautilus as root at any point?
[12:25] <leafw> eightyeight: I can do sudo moutn /dev/sdb1 /mnt/usbpen ... but doesn't automount in gnome
[12:25] <a> does "choose command" mean choose program to open with the launcher?
[12:25] <jmmg> could you help me with a problem with my ati GPU drivers?
[12:25] <leafw> markginter31: no. Just installed the system
[12:25] <markginter31> leafw hmmm... version?
[12:25] <leafw> eightyeight: no, it's not automounting to media
[12:25] <BlueEagle> jmmg: Not unless you tell us what the problem is.
[12:25] <leafw> markginter31: ubuntu-eee 8.04.1
[12:25] <eightyeight> leafw: what is the fs on the drive?
[12:25] <nerovengene> how do I get the version of the packages available in the package repository before installing it, in ubuntu, using the console?
[12:25] <leafw> eightyeight: FAT32
[12:25] <dr_willis> leafw,  i had a issue where the fstab file had an extra/wrong entry for a cdrom drive  - it wouldent auto mount /dev/sda1 thumb drives automatically because of that.. check the fstab may be a good starting point
[12:26] <jmmg> ok, well, my problem is when I enabled the fglrk drivers for ati
[12:26] <leafw> dr_willis: thanks, doing that
[12:26] <eightyeight> leafw: is autofs installed and running on /media?
[12:26] <ardchoille> nerovengene: apt-cache policy package-name
[12:26] <markginter31> jmmg and...
[12:26] <jmmg> ubuntu load in text mode and if I wait a seconds load in low resolution mode
[12:26] <macvr>  hi all...does anyone know where the font config is saved? i seem to have lost ALL the font settings i had set in the appearances font tab... but i have a backup of my system... but i dont know where the font config is saved... so does anyone know where the font config is saved?
[12:26] <leafw> eightyeight: chcking ...
[12:26] <dr_willis> leafw,  it did this - i think because i installed from a thumbdrive/unetbootin installed drive
[12:26] <jmmg> if I review tje xorg logs I can read No screens found
[12:26] <martin_> apt-cache show packagename gives more info nerovengene
[12:27] <CorpseFeeder> I am quite annoyed about having to reinstall 8.04 because that means I will need to go through all the tedious setup to get DVDs and music and all that multimedia stuff working again plus reinstalling all 3rd party apps again :( not to mention loads of update downloading again ... the whole situation sucks :(
[12:27] <macpo3> is there a command with apt-get or dpkg to produce a list of the installed packages? I want to check 2 machines and see what the differences are
[12:27] <markginter31> macvr - there's a fontconfig cache type thing (limited knowledge) -- maybe looking for something like that?
[12:27] <leafw> eightyeight: autofs must be intalled, otherwise nautilus wouldn't popup a dialog saying it can't be mounted, right?
[12:27] <BlueEagle> jmmg: !pastebin your xorg.conf please
[12:27] <BlueEagle> !pastebin | jmmg
[12:27] <a> this "create lancher" says there is an error opening the "child" file (i made the command as the program i wanted"
[12:27] <jmmg> ok, wait a second
[12:27] <jrib> CorpseFeeder: of course.  I understand.  But if you want me to try to help you, you need to give me the information I ask for...
[12:27] <CorpseFeeder> jrib: sorry, what other questions?
[12:27] <BlueEagle> jmmg: Also the error log from the x-server will be helpful
[12:27] <jrib> CorpseFeeder: what driver are you using?
[12:27] <eightyeight> leafw: well, it's just a thought. if autofs is configured to mount devices on /media, then nautilus won't
[12:28] <BlueEagle> jmmg: /var/log/X(something)
[12:28] <natschil> how do I specify for a module to be autoloaded on boot?
[12:28] <macvr> markginter31: i dont know what i'm looking for... but i thought that the old config has to be stored somewhere so i could copy settings again...
[12:28] <jmmg> pastebin?
[12:28] <eightyeight> macpo3: dpkg-query -l | grep ^ii
[12:28] <BlueEagle> jmmg: atleast the last 40 lines
[12:28] <BlueEagle> jmmg: as ubottu told you.
[12:28] <leafw> eightyeight: dpkg-query does not list autofs
[12:28] <nerovengene> how can I install a package from a different(unstable) distribute of ubuntu? I need that later version
[12:28] <jmmg> Section "Monitor"
[12:28] <jmmg> 	Identifier   "aticonfig-Monitor[0]-0"
[12:28] <jmmg> 	Option	    "VendorName" "ATI Proprietary Driver"
[12:28] <jmmg> 	Option	    "ModelName" "Generic Autodetecting Monitor"
[12:28] <jmmg> 	Option	    "DPMS" "true"
[12:28] <FloodBot1> jmmg: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:28] <jmmg> EndSection
[12:28] <BlueEagle> jmmg: No, no, no!
[12:29] <BlueEagle> !pastebin | jmmg
[12:29] <markginter31> macvr - it seems to me I remember messages about having defoma perform font handling - or some such.
[12:29] <CorpseFeeder> jrib: I don't know. Nothing right now it seems. Screen is fixed at native resolution.
[12:29] <eightyeight> leafw: and you say this is a fresh install on an eeepc?
[12:29] <BlueEagle> !pastebin > jmmg
[12:29] <jrib> CorpseFeeder: pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[12:29] <martin_> nerorevenge, find a repo and add it to your source.list file, although I extremely do not recommend!
[12:29] <macvr> markginter31: ok... any memory of the location of the file?
[12:30] <martin_> a repo with the updated software you require,
[12:30] <CorpseFeeder> jrib: my xorg.conf file is empty. I will pastebin the Xorg.0.log file shortly...
[12:30] <markginter31> nerovengene -- did you try downloading and installing the package?
[12:30] <jrib> CorpseFeeder: you are positive it is absolutely empty?
[12:30] <jmmg> http://paste.ubuntu.com/72329/plain/
[12:30] <BlueEagle> CorpseFeeder: that is /etc/X11/xorg.conf right?
[12:30] <jmmg> sorry
[12:31] <nerovengene> markginter31, hmm not yet.. thats a good idea.. but should I download dependencies too then?
[12:31] <BlueEagle> jmmg: It's ok. You're not the first. :)
[12:31] <jmmg> ;)
[12:31] <CorpseFeeder> jrib: it is not completely empty - all the # comments are there and the section start/ends, but there is no configuration data in there at all. - here is the other file I pastebinned earlier today http://paste.ubuntu.com/72286/
[12:32] <martin_> nerorevene, should solve dependencies if the dependencies are in currently enabled repos
[12:32] <BlueEagle> jmmg: Also look in /var/log for your error log from the X-server and grab the last 30 lines from that file.
[12:32] <jrib> CorpseFeeder: pastebin the xorg.conf as well
[12:32] <BlueEagle> jmmg: That will help alot.
[12:32] <markginter31> nerovengene -- use the package installer and it should fetch the dependencies that it can.  If it can't -- then maybe set a temporary line in your sources.list file.  Risky -- but if you *need* the file you may be willing to risk it.
[12:32] <jmmg> ok, wait another second
[12:32] <BlueEagle> CorpseFeeder: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:32] <martin_> try and install it and see if any errors come up
[12:32] <nerovengene> hrm ok :)
[12:32] <vladuz976> hi
[12:32] <CorpseFeeder> BlueEagle: I have already done that several times.. it fails to enter anything at all into xorg.conf
[12:33] <BlueEagle> CorpseFeeder: Which desktop system are you trying to use? Gnome? KDE? Xfce4?
[12:33] <leafw> eightyeight: yes, fresh install from this morning
[12:33] <jmmg> http://paste.ubuntu.com/72331/plain/
[12:33] <jmmg> there is
[12:33] <Bupsss> hi, does anybody know if i can use the make command creating the files in a different folder?
[12:33] <eightyeight> leafw: which version of ubuntu? 8.10?
[12:33] <BlueEagle> CorpseFeeder: See if this installs anything: sudo apt-get install gnome-desktop
[12:35] <leafw> eightyeight: 8.04.1
[12:35] <jmmg> /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[12:35] <CorpseFeeder> jrib: here - http://paste.ubuntu.com/72332/ BlueEagleI will try that.. please hold on...
[12:35] <Vekio> ehlo
[12:36] <eightyeight> leafw: just curious, but unmount it (if mounted), then 'sudo partprobe'
[12:36] <BlueEagle> jmmg: cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log|grep \(EE\)
[12:36] <BlueEagle> jmmg: That will be more useful I think.
[12:36] <yereth> omg the default sound mixer of gnome sux
[12:36] <Thaurwylth> So, let's say I'm in BusyBox after a failed boot and need to create a new initrmfs image. What to do?
[12:36] <CorpseFeeder> BlueEagle: couldn't find package. I am using gnome GDM desktop now.
[12:37] <sja> утро всем
[12:37] <leafw> eightyeight: inform the OS of partition table changes? Look, it does recognizie it. it Just fails to mount it, claiming not enough permissions.
[12:37] <BlueEagle> CorpseFeeder: my bad. The package is gnome-desktop-environment
[12:37] <jmmg> BlueEagle: http://paste.ubuntu.com/72333/plain/ Is this what you want?
[12:37] <bazhang> !ru | sja
[12:38] <jrib> CorpseFeeder: pastebin: apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-video-ati
[12:38] <eightyeight> leafw: yes. this will prompt nautilus to attempt a mount. look, i'm helping you troubleshoot
[12:38] <CorpseFeeder> BlueEagle: ok that is installing now..
[12:39] <CorpseFeeder> jrib: ok.. but wait I am installing something suggested by BlueEagle first...
[12:39] <raddy> Hello Everybody
[12:39] <jrib> CorpseFeeder, BlueEagle: that's not really necessary...
[12:39] <eightyeight> leafw: check this setting in gconf-editor: /apps/nautilus/preferences/media_automount
[12:39] <eightyeight> leafw: should be checked
[12:39] <BlueEagle> jmmg: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=926530
[12:39] <leafw> bizarre: now it mounted. After the same drive had been unounted, now it mounted it ...
[12:39] <raddy> What are the art works available for Ubuntu 8.10
[12:39] <leafw> eightyeight: ... without changing anything
[12:39] <BlueEagle> jmmg: That's the most relevant link I found when googling for the last error message you got.
[12:39] <eightyeight> leafw: yup
[12:39] <sja> bazhang, ubottu sorry.
[12:39] <jmmg> ok, I'll try this
[12:40] <jmmg> thanks you very much, blueeagle
[12:40] <macvr> hi all... how do i open these files >>>/home/oo/.fontconfig/fead999820af564e710f751b67fbdc1a-x86.cache-2 <<< ???
[12:40] <ardchoille> raddy: http://www.gnome-look.org
[12:40] <BlueEagle> jmmg: You're welcome. :)
[12:40] <CorpseFeeder> jrib: should I abort the install? is it safe to abort part way through?
[12:40] <jrib> macvr: I don't know, but why would you want to open them?
[12:40] <yereth> why can't gnome handle urbanterror full screen?
[12:40] <raddy> ardchoille
[12:40] <jrib> CorpseFeeder: if it's already installing, no
[12:40] <leafw> eightyeight: media_automount was set to true
[12:40] <yereth> it tries to hijack my mouse all the time
[12:40] <raddy> ardchoille : i mean official artwork
[12:40] <ardchoille> raddy: ah, ok
[12:40] <macvr> jrib:  i seem to have lost ALL the font settings i had set in the appearances font tab... but i have a backup of my system... but i dont know where the font config is saved...
[12:41] <CorpseFeeder> jrib: ok - I will let it run it's course
[12:41] <vladuz976> upgraded to 8.10 and getting problems with xorg. Error is something like "compatible nvidia driver not found" i pasted my Xorg.0.log here http://rafb.net/p/Hoi3K068.html    does anyone have a solution to this?
[12:41] <raddy> ardchoille : themes, wallpaper bootsplash etc
[12:41] <eightyeight> leafw: i don't know then. i don't have an eeepc. although i can't imagine it would be any different than a standard hardware install, i can't say for sure. sorry mate
[12:41] <jrib> macvr: probably somewhere in gconf
[12:42] <leafw> eightyeight: thanks for the help in any case. Seems that it just needed to see the drive twice -- some glitch on some file that wasn't updated properly
[12:42] <jrib> macvr: or ~/.fonts.conf if you have it
[12:42] <eightyeight> leafw: are you logged into the gui as root, or regular user? nautilus won't automount if logged into the gui as root
[12:42] <ardchoille> raddy: apt-cache search artwork | grep ubuntu
[12:42] <leafw> eightyeight: regular user, of course. I am not crazy.
[12:42] <eightyeight> leafw: i know. couldn't hurt to ask though. :)
[12:42] <CorpseFeeder> jrib: it is done. I will now pastebin apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-video-ati
[12:43] <macvr> jrib: i only have ~/.fontconfig... which location is the gconf files saved? so that i could restore the old ones?
[12:43] <leafw> eightyeight: :)
[12:43] <sum-it> how can i change default display manager to gdm
[12:43] <jrib> macvr: ~/.gconf/
[12:43] <Muntrue> Hey guys, Im trying to install Ubuntu on my PC here but on every CD I try i get a bunch of errors along the lines of "Buffer i/o something something HDA1" and then it quits with a kernal panic.. what do I do !?
[12:43] <tarfax> hi, should a subdirectory of /usr/lib be getting searched for .so files at runtime?  if not, i have libs in a subdir, what should i be doing with them?
[12:43] <kri> hi ive made a fresh intall of ubuntu 8.10, when i go to alsamixer i cant only see the 'Master'? where is rest?
[12:43] <dude> hey guys, can I somehow install ubuntu on another partition, when I'm inside windows? I want to boot from it later.
[12:44] <markginter31> can anyone successfully suspend/resume their laptop?
[12:44] <CorpseFeeder> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu.com/72337/
[12:44] <richaoj> kri - look under preferences
[12:44] <jrib> sum-it: /etc/X11/default-display-manager iirc.  But you should be able to just do: sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[12:44] <jmmg> BlueEagle: I do it, Have I to restart?
[12:44] <macvr> jrib: ok... i can see all the gconf-editor files... any idea which specific name the file would have or which category it would be under?
[12:45] <ActionParsnip> !opera > ActionParsnip
[12:45] <sum-it> thanks
[12:45] <kri> richaoj: how do i look under preferences for alsamixer?
[12:45] <markginter31> sum-it dpkg-reconfigure gdm (maybe?)
[12:45] <richaoj> double click on the volume control and then click on prefences, you should be able so choose what volume controls you want.
[12:46] <sum-it> thanks markginter31
[12:46] <markginter31> sum-it - np but lookin gup the list jrib beat me to it :)
[12:46] <kri> richaoj: "Alsamixer v1.0.17, Usage: alsamixer [-h] [-c <card: 0...7> [-D <mixer device>] [-g] [-s] [V <view>] [-a <abst>] ...
[12:46] <sum-it> i am having trouble with hibernate option in ubuntu. it doesn't hibernate it
[12:46] <markginter31> sum-it I can hibernate but not suspend
[12:47] <CorpseFeeder> jrib: did you see my paste?
[12:47] <dude> Do people even see what I write? :o
[12:47] <markginter31> sum-it do you get to the point where it shuts down and then it locks starting up?
[12:47] <markginter31> dude - I did now.. :)
[12:47] <ardchoille> dude: yes
[12:47] <sum-it> i cant do anything neither suspend nor hibernate
[12:47] <jrib> CorpseFeeder: ok.  Well here is what I see.  X should be trying to load that ati driver, but it's jumping straight to vesa.  Then at the end it's throwing weird errors.  ( /var/log/Xorg.0.log )
[12:47] <dude> oh how nice
[12:47] <markginter31> sum-it laptop?
[12:47] <sum-it> no desktop
[12:48] <dude> I guess nobody active here knows the answer to my problem then
[12:48] <sum-it> it just hangs up no display and no harddisk activity
[12:48] <jrib> CorpseFeeder: have you tested if a live cd works without issue?
[12:48] <markginter31> sum-it why would you suspend/hibernate?
[12:48] <kri> richaoj: It opens right if i 'alsamixer -D hw:0' .. i want that to open with just 'alsamixer' as deafult
[12:48] <sum-it> because it doesnt give me option of shutdown from the desktop
[12:48] <CorpseFeeder> jrib: I don't have a live CD. I upgraded through the "upgrade" button in software update.
[12:48] <macvr>  jrib: ok... i can see all the gconf-editor files... any idea which specific name the file would have or which category it would be under?
[12:48] <ardchoille> dude: some of us haven't used windows in years and have forgotten much about it
[12:49] <markginter31> sum-it what desktop are you using?
[12:49] <jrib> macvr: not offhand.  I'm not even certain they are there
[12:49] <sum-it> and if it does then too it must hibernate
[12:49] <sum-it> i have c2d 6550, asus p5ne sli, 2gb of ram
[12:49] <jrib> CorpseFeeder: well trying a live cd might be a good idea.  If it "just works" then it means your upgrade messed up somewhere
[12:49] <macvr> jrib: ok... i can see the font settings like hinting, and others... will keep looking thanx
[12:50] <sum-it> with nvidia gf 7300gt
[12:50] <markginter31> sum-it what driver are you using for the nvidia card?
[12:50] <sum-it> its nv i suppose
[12:51] <Muntrue> Hey guys, Im trying to install Ubuntu on my PC here but on every CD I try i get a bunch of errors along the lines of "Buffer i/o something something HDA1" and then it quits with a kernal panic.. what do I do !?
[12:51] <markginter31> sum-it just to clarify -- you didn't install the proprietary nvidia driver?
[12:51] <kri> Hi, i have to open alsamixer with the command 'alsamixer -D hw:0' to get everything up, what do i have to do so i get the same when i just hit 'alsamixer'?
[12:51] <CorpseFeeder> jrib: I remember it mentioned something about having to disable restricted drivers during the upgrade process and it said I would need to re-enable them, but there were no hardware drivers to enable in the hardware drivers window after the upgrade comjpleted.
[12:51] <markginter31> Muntrue - try a different harddrive?
[12:51] <sum-it> so how it will do that?
[12:52] <markginter31> sum-it go to System-Administration-Hardware Drivers and it should give you the option to install the nvidia driver.
[12:52] <CorpseFeeder> jrib: I will download and burn a 8.10 live CD, but that is going to take me hours on my connection.
[12:52] <sum-it> yes i installed too that
[12:52] <jmmg> Hello again BlueEagle
[12:52] <markginter31> sum-it oh
[12:52] <jmmg> I restart ubuntu but don't fix the problem
[12:52] <jrib> CorpseFeeder: no, your card might have been using restricted drivers before, but in intrepid you must use the xserver-xorg-video-ti driver.  If you were using fglrx before and didn't disable them before the upgrade, that might explain some of these issues
[12:52] <sum-it> and then my effects start woeking
[12:52] <markginter31> sum-it can you check your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file and see if it lists the 'nvidia' driver?
[12:52] <sum-it> i will do that
[12:53] <sum-it> but  i cant do it now
[12:53] <Muntrue> Hey guys, Im trying to install Ubuntu on my PC here but on every CD I try i get a bunch of errors along the lines of "Buffer i/o something something SR0" and then it quits with a kernal panic.. what do I do !?
[12:53] <Muntrue> markginter31, Sorry the error stated SR0 not HDA1.. that was a mistake :)
[12:53] <SBarbadillo> hi all, i need a disk expert
[12:53] <SBarbadillo>  end_request: I/O error, dev sdc, sector 0
[12:53] <sum-it> i suppose it says something like that
[12:53] <markginter31> Muntrue - that makes a difference.  it would seem to suggest that something is wrong or not cooperating with your cd drive
[12:54] <jrib> CorpseFeeder: we can try to explicitly set the ati driver in xorg.conf and see what happens
[12:54] <markginter31> Muntrue -- can you boot into and OS and use the cd drive without problems?
[12:54] <sum-it> nvidia new at restricted-hardware-drivers
[12:54] <SBarbadillo> my usb disk cannot be mounted anymore!!!
[12:54] <CorpseFeeder> jrib: I don't think I was using fglrx drivers. As I recall my card was not supported by that. I think the restricted drivers in use may have been for some other hardware...
[12:54] <markginter31> sum-it -- that's the driver you're using -- the nvidia-new one?
[12:54] <SBarbadillo> have to throw it away
[12:54] <dude> ardchoille: ok, seems like i'm bound to use the debian-windows-installer, it's not so far off at least :)
[12:54] <Muntrue> markginter31, No sir.. I tried the live and alternate CD and both give me these errors when i select either install or boot from CD
[12:54] <SBarbadillo> ?
[12:55] <jrib> CorpseFeeder: can you verify that /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/ati_drv.so exists?
[12:55] <Muntrue> markginter31, But when I use the CD drive in windows there are no problems at all
[12:55] <CorpseFeeder> jrib: how do we set this to explicitly use AT?
[12:55] <CorpseFeeder> *ATI
[12:55] <CorpseFeeder> ok..
[12:55] <sum-it> yes i use nvidia-new probably updated by my internet connection i suppose
[12:55] <kri> i have to open alsamixer with the command 'alsamixer -D hw:0' to get everything up, what do i have to do so i get the same (master + PCM etc not just master) when i just hit 'alsamixer'?
[12:55] <SBarbadillo> please, any suggestion to check if it is recoverable?
[12:55] <jmmg> someone can help me with my GPU???
[12:55] <markginter31> Muntrue - ok -  that's what I was looking for - confirmation that the drive works.  Did you try burning the cd at a slower speed?  I've run into that once or twice, and that 'fixed' it for me...
[12:56] <CorpseFeeder> jrib: the file exists
[12:56] <jrib> jmmg: you need to be more specific
[12:56] <jrib> CorpseFeeder: pastebin the output of 'lspci'
[12:56] <jmmg> I enable ati drivers for 3d aceleration but when I start pc, ubuntu load in text mode
[12:56] <macvr> jrib:found it... this is the location of the custom font config >>> ~/.gconf/desktop/gnome/interface/%gconf.xml <<< thanx
[12:56] <markginter31> jmmg -- what card do you have?
[12:56] <Muntrue> markginter31, I have burned it at 8x 4x and even 1x.. all the same problems
[12:56] <jmmg> if i wait aa seconds, ubuntu load in low-graphics-mode
[12:56] <jmmg> ATI Radeon 3850 512
[12:57] <jmmg> hd 3850
[12:57] <jrib> macvr: great
[12:57] <tdeath> Intel Integrated 965 express
[12:57] <tdeath> i win
[12:57] <jrib> !enter | jmmg
[12:57] <kri> where do i find '.asu oundrc'?
[12:57] <markginter31> Muntrue - whoa - you're way ahead of me :)  That's strange indeed.  Are you burning it on the same drive you're reading it from?
[12:57] <jmmg> ok, sorry
[12:57] <CorpseFeeder> jrib: here - http://paste.ubuntu.com/72344/
[12:57] <markginter31> jmmg -- version of Ubuntu?
[12:57] <jmmg> 8.10 interpid
[12:58] <markginter31> jmmg fresh install?
[12:58] <Muntrue> markginter31, No im not. Because for some reason the drive im burning it with does not see the disk as boot disk. So i had to swap it into a DVD drive to boot
[12:58] <jmmg> yes
[12:58] <Petein> are there any other better file manager rather than nautilus?
[12:58] <Petein> *managers
[12:58] <jrib> CorpseFeeder: are you comfortable restoring your old xorg.conf from a tty if this fails?  By the way are you downloading the iso now from the failsafe X?
[12:58] <markginter31> Muntrue - can you swap drives around to try booting the cd from a different one?
[12:58] <jmmg> If i see the xorg logs, i can read the following error: "no screens found"
[12:58] <umesh> blogs related to computers
[12:59] <markginter31> jmmg - what driver is listed in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file?
[12:59] <rmn> is there a way to get updated info from blkid - or something similar? it doesn't reflect hardware changes (backup hdd hot-swap)
[12:59] <Muntrue> markginter31, Due to powercable shortage i can only have 1 drive on at the same time. So its either the CD-RW drive or DVD drive. When i hook up the CD-RW drive it will not boot into CD at all
[12:59] <jmmg> I use fglrx
[12:59] <markginter31> Muntrue - interesting.  Are you reseting the jumpers on the back of the drives when you switch them around?
[13:00] <Muntrue> markginter31, Not at all
[13:00] <goro> ty
[13:00] <koko2> hal
[13:00] <markginter31> Muntrue - just double check those -- depending on their configuration they may be set to master/slave/cable select and that (maybe?) is causing troubles?
[13:00] <koko2> linux
[13:00] <cw-brad> I need help with bluetooth headset
[13:01] <CorpseFeeder> jrib: I can restore my old xorg.conf. what do you mean by failsafe thingy?
[13:01] <markginter31> jmmg -- and - just once again - how did you go about installing the fglrx driver?
[13:01] <BlueFusion> hey - i'm trying to install onto a CF card via a CF-SATA adaptor, the install fails during Copying files... any ideas?
[13:01] <jmmg> I try to enable the fglrx driver of ubutnu, I try to install manually the official fglrx driver of ATI and don't work.....I try with envyNG and the same problem
[13:01] <Muntrue> markginter31, What would you recommend ?
[13:01] <sum-it> is  there is something like restore points in ubuntu
[13:01] <Muntrue> markginter31, Keep both of them on cable select ?
[13:01] <jrib> CorpseFeeder: I mean, if this fails, you may be left with no X and have to login at ctrl-alt-f1 (ctrl-alt-f7 to get back)
[13:01] <andychinghe> #surabaya
[13:02] <kri> where do i found asoundrc / asound.conf ~ ?
[13:02] <markginter31> Muntrue -- if you can only have one drive hooked up at a time I would set them both to master -- if you could set them up at the same time then of course you'd want one set to slave -- but that doesn't appear to be the case
[13:02] <CorpseFeeder> jrib: I can do that
[13:02] <cw-brad> has anybody tried to get buletooth headset working?
[13:02] <markginter31> jmmg -- ok you've tried an awful lot -- so that may be 'confusing' things here.
[13:02] <Muntrue> markginter31, Allright ill try it.. Ill get back to you
[13:02] <jmmg> tell me
[13:03] <BlueFusion> hey - i'm trying to install onto a CF card via a CF-SATA adaptor, the install fails during Copying files... any ideas?
[13:03] <cw-brad> kri  | sudo gedit ~/.asoundrc  -
[13:03] <markginter31> jmmg - are you comfortable typing commands on the command line in a virtual terminal?
[13:03] <rwaw> hmm, so i have this X3100 card, its really crap, but i figured i should be able to play something on it. so i tried quake2max and its very slow, even on the lowest setting. but the weird hting is that the game mcgees alice, which is based on quake3 works fine, (running with wine!) but openarena lags like hell
[13:03] <rwaw> it does not make sense for me, could someone help
[13:03] <jmmg> sorry, i'm a noob and my english isn't very well
[13:03] <koko2> fd
[13:03] <jrib> CorpseFeeder: ok.  In your xorg.conf, in the Device Section, under the Identifier line, add (; means newline): Driver "ati"; Busid "PCI:1:0:0"
[13:04] <CorpseFeeder> jrib: btw there is about 1 hour 15 mins left on the ISO download
[13:04] <koko2> this in medan indonesia
[13:04] <markginter31> jmmg - that's fine -
[13:04] <kri> cw-brad: is not there
[13:04] <CorpseFeeder> jrib: ok
[13:04] <jrib> CorpseFeeder: if this fails, be sure to grab a copy of your /var/log/Xorg.0.log so you can pastebin it.   If you want, you can wait for the download to finish
[13:04] <markginter31> jmmg - I speak english and my english isn't very well :)
[13:04] <jmmg> ;)
[13:04] <BlueFusion> jrib?
[13:04] <BlueFusion> jrib?
[13:04] <BlueFusion> oops
[13:04] <jrib> BlueFusion: ?
[13:05] <jmmg> what do you want to say with "are you comfortable typing commands "?
[13:05] <BlueFusion> jrib, hey - i'm trying to install onto a CF card via a CF-SATA adaptor, the install fails during Copying files... any ideas?
[13:05] <jrib> BlueFusion: nope
[13:05] <kri> cw-brad: i cant find it not in ~/home/user/ or in etc
[13:05] <BlueFusion> hmkthx jrib
[13:05] <koko2> http://itkokomtc.blogspot.com
[13:05] <|MUSE|> hey, is ubuntu sever a good replacement for a windows server? I would like things such as a domain controller, DNS server, ﻿OpenAdap directory (user accounts) or equivalent, mail server with web interface that is not linked to user accounts, etc.
[13:05] <markginter31> jmmg - for instance - in a terminal on the broken machine i would want you to run the command "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[13:05] <goro> mirc
[13:06] <jmmg> ok, I will do this
[13:06] <alcockell> Morning..
[13:06] <jrib> CorpseFeeder: so if you're going to wait for the download, we can check some other things: pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old and the output of 'dkms status'
[13:06] <markginter31> alcockell - mornin'
[13:06] <alcockell> I know it may be a dumb question - but I'm a bit scared about accepting the latest security updates...
[13:06] <rubicon> anybody familiar with Compiz? Have a few quick questions about settings.
[13:06] <markginter31> alockell - ?
[13:07] <markginter31> rubicon - maybe -- shoot...
[13:07] <|MUSE|> ﻿rubicon: just ask
[13:07] <Aldarius> in OpenOffice, how i can fill a cell with the auto-complete function without pressing Enter, so pressing Tab like in Excel?
[13:07] <alcockell> .. still running 8.04.1 and did not accept the updates to -21.. as they broke a load of laptops.
[13:07] <markginter31> alcockell - oh
[13:07] <rubicon> looking for setting that auto resizes windows so all fit on screen
[13:07] <jrib> rubicon: #compiz-fusion is a better place to ask about compiz settings questions
[13:07] <markginter31> rubicon -- I remember seeing something like that in the ccsm
[13:07] <alcockell> I bought mt Thinkpad R61i preinstalled from Linux Emporium..
[13:07] <rubicon> cool, thanks
[13:08] <Aldarius> in OpenOffice, how i can fill a cell with the auto-complete function without pressing Enter, so pressing Tab like in Excel?
[13:08] <alcockell> ... and if they did a load of tweaks, I wuldn't know...
[13:08] <CorpseFeeder> jrib: ok
[13:08] <markginter31> alcockell -- maximumize may do it...
[13:08] <blz777> hello, i want to ask you to explain to me what's the difference between ubuntu 7.10 and ubuntu 8.10, cause i have 7.10 and just installed all the updates that 7.10 gave me
[13:08] <blz777> and i'm using 7.10 cause i can't install my video drivers on 8.10
[13:09] <rwaw> why do my native linux games (opengl) run slower then games emulated in wine?
[13:09] <markginter31> blz777 - lots of improvements to the Desktop
[13:09] <blz777> markginter31: what else am i loosing not using 8.10
[13:09] <alcockell> Would it be worth me waiting to update until 8.04.2 comes out?
[13:09] <blz777> and can i somehow update all the stuff that 8.10 has without installing it?
[13:09] <jrib> !upgrade | blz777
[13:09] <markginter31> blz777 -- personal preference issues -- I like the touches that are added, the updated drivers for devices , etc
[13:10] <blz777> jrib: but i will i lose the drivers for my video if i upgrade?
[13:10] <jrib> !notes | blz777
[13:10] <woody86> what's the terminal command to reconfigure gdm?
[13:10] <jrib> woody86: sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[13:10] <CorpseFeeder> jrib: here - http://paste.ubuntu.com/72349/
[13:10] <markginter31> woody86 sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[13:10] <woody86> jrib, markginter31 thanks guys :D
[13:10] <blz777> markginter31: can i upgrade and not lose my video drivers?
[13:10] <alcockell> ... vendor is still running -19 and told me to untick anything mentioning -21... or would that break the login package that just came up in Update Manager?
[13:10] <jrib> CorpseFeeder: ah, you tried with ati here?
[13:11] <markginter31> blz777 that I don't know.  You can black list packages for upgrading -- but that may (will) break things.
[13:11] <blz777> :(
[13:11] <markginter31> blz777 what doesn't work with 8.10?
[13:11] <alcockell> Pretty worrying that Hardy is currently not really in an upgradeable state... if you don;t know the hardware...
[13:11] <blz777> markginter31: i have a laptop Fujitsu Siemens amilo pro v2030 with integrated video card
[13:12] <markginter31> blz777 what kind of integrated video card?
[13:12] <blz777> markginter31: and i always have HUGE difficulties making it work ok
[13:12] <jrib> alcockell: well it works if you don't use closed binary drivers...
[13:12] <blz777> markginter31: with openchrome drivers, vn800 something..
[13:12] <CorpseFeeder> jrib: here is the output of the other thing http://paste.ubuntu.com/72350/
[13:12] <alcockell> Markginter31 - I'm running a Lenovo Thinkpad R61i-7650EBG...
[13:12] <jrib> CorpseFeeder: hmm.  fglrx is there
[13:12] <markginter31> blz777 oh - ok - it's a via
[13:13] <blz777> markginter31: yes :(
[13:13] <jmmg> markginter31, i do it
[13:13] <markginter31> jmmg -- ok -- are you able to boot back into your desktop now?
[13:13] <CorpseFeeder> jrib: I tried just copy/pasting an old backup xorg.conf into the current one. that didn't work.
[13:13] <blz777> markginter31: so i managed to make it work with direct rendering with 7.10 and i'm thinking now if i should upgrade to something else
[13:13] <jmmg> but this wizard only ask me about my keyboard
[13:13] <alcockell> Is this entire sysem safe with latest updates form Recommended and Security?
[13:13] <blz777> markginter31: but i'm worried not to lose my video drivers
[13:13] <jrib> CorpseFeeder: right.  I think our goal at the moment is to get rid of fglrx: aptitude search '~i~nfglrx'
[13:13] <alcockell> I am new to Linux...
[13:13] <jmmg> is this normal?
[13:14] <blz777> markginter31: can you help me decide :D ?
[13:14] <markginter31> blz777 - you're afraid of losing stuff.  I think I'd do a lot of googling to see if there's a noticable success rate with your card -- maybe check ubuntuforums.org too?
[13:14] <jrib> alcockell: if you aren't using -proposed, they should be fine
[13:14] <markginter31> blz777 -- not without a lot more info.  But - hey - I'd say go for it -- it's not my laptop :)
[13:14] <blz777> markginter31: i've checked and as far as i noticed, it works fine with 7.10 and i have 7.10 now :D
[13:14] <blz777> markginter31:  :D:D
[13:14] <Marsjanin> Hello. Does anybody seen an effect like this: http://img.nopaste.pl/upload/compiz_491e9bdbc9476.png ? I've got it under COMPIZ after upgrade Ubuntu to 8.10. When using other winmanager, there's all OK; when using gmome-based apps, also, this shot is made under Opera, and it looks the same with KDE and Amarok. And, finally, menus are appearing by fade - and that part of second, when they're not appeared completly, the letters are visible.
[13:15] <markginter31> blz777 - hm - did you try to live-cd for 8.10?
[13:15] <cricido> hi all
[13:15] <jmmg> markginter32: but this wizard only ask my about my keyboardk..... is this normal??
[13:15] <CorpseFeeder> jrib: that lists some stuff... now what?
[13:15] <blz777> markginter31: yes.. but it's with a bad resolution
[13:15] <cricido> i have a question
[13:15] <blz777> markginter31: i've actually installed 8.10 but couldn't make my video work on more than 640x480
[13:15] <Aldarius> in OpenOffice, how i can fill a cell with the auto-complete function without pressing Enter, so pressing Tab like in Excel?
[13:15] <jrib> CorpseFeeder: purge whatever relates to fglrx (make sure it doesn't want to do something stupid like nuke your whole system)
[13:15] <markginter31> jmmg -- yeah -- it asks you about keyboard, video driver, monitor size ...
[13:15] <alcockell> JRIB - what is this "should" business?  Don't Canonical certify hardware as WILL work with Ubuntu?
[13:15] <cricido> i have e eeepc asus and i nee to install ubuntu
[13:15] <Marsjanin> cricido: rule#1: Don't ask to ask, just ask :)
[13:16] <blz777> markginter31: ok.. so i'll wait till someone gets a solution for my video on 8.10 :) till then i'll satisfy myself with 7.10 :)
[13:16] <jmmg> no, only about my keyboard, no aske me about my video driver or monitor size
[13:16] <cricido> can i have problem?
[13:16] <blz777> markginter31: or maybe try to update to 8.04
[13:16] <markginter31> blz777 - I really don't know anything about via drivers ... so - I think what you said is the best solution
[13:16] <CorpseFeeder> jrib: should I do that through synaptic? I am not familiar with the terminal commands for purging packages etc...
[13:16] <blz777> markginter31: thanks for your time :) i really appreciate it
[13:16] <markginter31> blz777 np
[13:16] <jrib> CorpseFeeder: sure, that's fine
[13:16] <jrib> CorpseFeeder: it's just: aptitude purge PACKAGE
[13:17] <blz777> and also i want to thank all the people here in this room.. you are a great help to us all!!
[13:17] <blz777> :)
[13:17] <alcockell> What I am concerned about is the active bug 290113 that could leave my machine in an unbootable state
[13:17] <alcockell> .. if I update;.
[13:17] <CorpseFeeder> jrib: do I need to sudo that?
[13:17] <markginter31> blz777 -- what's the max resolution on your laptop?
[13:17] <jrib> CorpseFeeder: yep
[13:17] <blz777> markginter31: well i don't know.. but it works fine now on 1024x768
[13:17] <ardchoille> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg used to ask me about a lot of stuff (kb options, monitor stuff, etc) back in Dapper, but it doesn't do that now. How can I get that back?
[13:17] <jmmg> markginter31: no, only about my keyboard, no aske me about my video driver or monitor size
[13:17] <cricido> i tried to install ubuntu eee version bua it stoped
[13:18] <markginter31> blz777 that's probably it ... did you find this page --> http://www.mail-archive.com/openchrome-users@openchrome.org/msg01171.html
[13:18] <CorpseFeeder> jrib can I list all packages to purge on the same command line? do I just separate them with spaces?
[13:18] <markginter31> jmmg -- and that was with sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver -xorg?  hmmm ...
[13:18] <jrib> ardchoille: why do you want to?  input devices are no longer configured in xorg.conf by default
[13:18] <cricido> i tried to install ubuntu eee version but it stopped at the first screen
[13:18] <jmmg> yes
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[13:18] <FloodBot1> el_zewbo: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:18] <jrib> ardchoille: wiki.ubuntu.com/X
[13:18] <jmmg> markginter31: yes
[13:19] <markginter31> jmmg -- you need to check the file /etc/X11/xorg.conf and see if it lists fglrx in there anywhere
[13:19] <jrib> CorpseFeeder: aptitude purge package1 package2 ...
[13:19] <ardchoille> jrib: Because I son't remember the proper syntax for adding all of that to xorg.conf
[13:19] <jmmg> yes, this line is in this file
[13:19] <cricido> i not able to press install ubuntu can you help me
[13:19] <el_zewbo> HAIL SATAN
[13:19] <jrib> ardchoille: right, I just said xorg.conf wasn't used anymore
[13:19] <Tetracomm> Can someone recommend a program better than Audacity?
[13:19] <markginter31> jmmg -- ok - for now lets change that back to "ati"
[13:19] <ardchoille> jrib: Ah, ok
[13:19] <jrib> el_zewbo: please stay on-topic -- ubuntu support
[13:19] <el_zewbo> Tetracomm: adobe audition
[13:20] <blz777> markginter31: no, thanks but i think i won't experiment for now :)) it's too tricky with such a video under the hood :-P
[13:20] <alcockell> Apologies if I sound a little paranoid - this is my sole machine... and worried that after the 2.6.24-19 to 2.6.34-21 debacle it would leave my machine hosed - and I'd have to send it back to Birmingham to get fixed
[13:20] <mrbeano> SUCK
[13:20] <jrib> ardchoille: what kind of settings do you want?  The release notes tell you how to setup the keyboard
[13:20] <jrib> mrbeano: do you have an ubuntu support question?
[13:20] <markginter31> blz777 - aw-shucks.  You've got the whole weekend, no? :)
[13:20] <Bowo_27> nz
[13:20] <blz777> markginter31: and all the homework in the world for Monday.. :D (i'm a student 2nd year)
[13:20] <mrbeano> jrib, the intel x4500mhd card refuses to work
[13:20] <CorpseFeeder> jrib: it says "Leave the following dependencies unresolved:   jockey-common recommends fglrx-modaliases      Score is -12" what does that mean?
[13:20] <jmmg> markginter31: sorry, I reinstall xorg after our conversation and now this line isn't in this file
[13:20] <jrib> mrbeano: ask the channel
[13:20] <mrbeano> jrib, no verson of X11 that i can find will drive it properly
[13:21] <Tetracomm> el_zewbo: I'm talking about a free program.
[13:21] <jmmg> markginter31: before our conversation, sorry
[13:21] <el_zewbo> Tetracomm: just get a torrent
[13:21] <jrib> CorpseFeeder: don't remove that package (fglrx-modaliases)
[13:21] <markginter31> jmmg -- no that's fine.  We're just trying to get you to the point you can log into GNOME
[13:21] <bazhang> !info rosegarden
[13:21] <CorpseFeeder> jrib: ok
[13:21] <jrib> el_zewbo: do not talk about piracy here.
[13:21] <mrbeano> but worse of all, it's not clear whether it SHOULD work or not
[13:21] <Tetracomm> elzewbo: Is there a version for Linux?
[13:21] <el_zewbo> Tetracomm: i dunno, just run it on a windows box
[13:21] <jmmg> markginter31: ok, i'll go to restar, wait a minute
[13:22] <markginter31> jmmg - k
[13:22] <jrib> CorpseFeeder: by the way, while googling for ati info, I came across some /var/log/Xorg.0.log with backtraces similar to yours.  You may want to try to find them too (I've since closed them)
[13:22] <bazhang> Tetracomm, check out rosegarden or ardour
[13:22] <markginter31> blz777 understood ... It's best to wait...
[13:22] <el_zewbo> what was that for?
[13:22] <ardchoille> jrib: That link you gave me tells me quite a bit and it has other links.. looks like this will get what I want. Thank you :)
[13:22] <jessid> hello. i have Ubuntu 8.10 and I would like to run a comand automatically as root when my laptop starts. I dont want the user to notice this and ask for the password. How can I do that? Thank
[13:22] <blz777> markginter31: :)))
[13:22] <bazhang> el_zewbo, stay on topic
[13:22] <el_zewbo> i am on topic
[13:22] <el_zewbo> i was answering his question
[13:22] <jrib> el_zewbo: if respond to someone, then be helpful
[13:22] <cricido> i not able to press install ubuntu can you help me
[13:22] <bazhang> el_zewbo, or you will be removed again
[13:22] <el_zewbo> sorry, i thought i was being helpful
[13:23] <el_zewbo> audacity isnt really that good
[13:23] <el_zewbo> so i suggested audition
[13:23] <fus10nx> Is anyone here using multiple desktops?
[13:23] <mrbeano> this blows
[13:23] <alcockell> Oh - on the media recording software question - does anyone kow whether AudioRoom has been ported to Linux?
[13:23] <cricido> anyone have a eeepc?
[13:23] <chombee> Anyone know why network manager isn't automatically reconnecting to my home network anymore, since I upgraded to intrepid? Is that a bug?
[13:23] <jrib> !notes > ardchoille
[13:23] <CorpseFeeder> jrib: I removed the fglrx things..
[13:24] <ardchoille> jrib: Thanks
[13:24] <jrib> ardchoille: there's the notes.  Search for 'console-setup' I think
[13:24] <ardchoille> ok
[13:24] <Tetracomm> elzewbo: Thank you.
[13:24] <bazhang> !equivalents > alcockell
[13:24] <jrib> CorpseFeeder: alright.  Can you reboot at this point just to make sure none of the fglrx stuff is getting loaded?
[13:24] <el_zewbo> chombee do this: sudo cd /etc/network && rm -rf /
[13:24] <CorpseFeeder> jrib: ok
[13:24] <jrib> chombee: don't do that
[13:24] <wskyygyquk> what are you talking about?
[13:25] <CorpseFeeder> jrib: I will need to wait for the ISo to download first :(
[13:25] <jrib> CorpseFeeder: ok
[13:25] <chombee> el_zewbo --- thanks but best not tell people to rm -rf, I deleted my entire filesystem by mistake once
[13:25] <jmmg> markginter31: well, I'm here
[13:25] <jrib> CorpseFeeder: run 'lsmod | grep fglrx'
[13:25] <jrib> chombee: he's gone :)
[13:25] <jmmg> markginter31: now load the ddefault driver of ubuntu
[13:25] <Tetracomm> jrib: Why did you do that to el_zewbo? He didn't offend again.
[13:26] <markginter31> jmmg -- when you say default do you mean 'ati' or 'vesa'
[13:26] <jrib> Tetracomm: he just told chombee a command that would delete every file on his system
[13:26] <chombee> jrib -- and I just noticed he said "rm -rf /", what a lovely guy
[13:26] <CorpseFeeder> jrib: it lists no modules
[13:26] <jrib> chombee: right.  He messed up the syntax anyway
[13:26] <Tetracomm> jrib: Oh, ok.
[13:27] <jrib> CorpseFeeder: hmm. ok.  You can try restarting X again with the ati explicitly stated in there again if you want.  I would like to see what happens after a reboot though (we'll wait for your download if it still fails)
[13:27] <jmmg> markginter31: well, when i reinstall xorg...http://paste.ubuntu.com/72352/plain/
[13:28] <jmmg> markginter31: I don't know what is the driver now
[13:28] <CorpseFeeder> jrib: um.. I can't restart X while the download is still downloading - that would quit firefox.
[13:28] <jrib> CorpseFeeder: ok.  I thought you were downloading some other way because you tried with ati before.  We'll just wait then
[13:29] <markginter31> jmmg -- in a terminal on your desktop type 'glxinfo'
[13:29] <jrib> CorpseFeeder: in the meantime, you can google the errors in the latest Xorg.0.log
[13:29] <CorpseFeeder> jrib: ok
[13:30] <jmmg> markginter31: http://paste.ubuntu.com/72353/
[13:31] <PsiTrax> ive xubuntu and trying to share some folder with samba, but in "Shard Folders" dialog all buttosn are disabled. Samba is installed and running and im in the sambashare group?
[13:31] <markginter31> jmmg you don't need the fglrx driver
[13:31] <jmmg> no¡¡
[13:32] <markginter31> jmmg at the top of that file it says  "direct rendering: Yes" -- so all the bells and whistles of your card should 'just work'
[13:32] <blz777> markginter31: i have another problem now.. how can i repair my synaptic packages list :D ?
[13:32] <markginter31> jmmg -- honestly -- at this point everything should work just fine for you
[13:32] <CorpseFeeder> jrib: what exactly am I supposed to be googling for? I didn't see any (EE) lines in my xorg.0.log file
[13:32] <markginter31> blz777 -- dunno - I'd have to do a bit of research...
[13:32] <jrib> CorpseFeeder: look at the bottom
[13:32] <jmmg> markginter31: if I wanna 3d aceleration... I need the fglrx driver, I think this
[13:33] <markginter31> jmmg -- you have 3d acceleration
[13:33] <jmmg> oO
[13:33] <markginter31> blz777 -- http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Debian/package-database-rebuild.html
[13:33] <M0badedr> hello everybody
[13:33] <ce_kalem> hello jga...
[13:33] <markginter31> jmmg -- type glxgears in a terminal and it should show you nice spinning gears.
[13:34] <jmmg> markginter31: I surprised, I thinked that I haven't got 3d aceleration if i don't install fglrx driver
[13:34] <markginter31> jmmg -- that's not the case.  That's why I had you type the glxinfo command to see if 3d accelaration (direct rendering) was enabled.
[13:34] <ultraskeptic> Have you ever used ubuntu on a pentium II 400 MHz based machine, with 256 MB of RAM, ATI Agp video card and 40GB of ram? The overhead is too high?
[13:34] <CorpseFeeder> jrib: I am lost.... is this the right paste I am supposed to be looking at? http://paste.ubuntu.com/72286/
[13:34] <tyty> oi
[13:35] <ardchoille> markginter31: 3d acceleration is not direct rendering
[13:35] <tyty> hi
[13:35] <jrib> CorpseFeeder: http://paste.ubuntu.com/72349/
[13:35] <markginter31> ardchoille -- but it's closely related enough? no?
[13:35] <jmmg> markginder31: ok, thanks you very much for your time markginter31, I apreciate this so much
[13:35] <fus10nx> !@%$!!!!!!!!
[13:35] <fus10nx> what the FUCK!
[13:35] <FloodBot1> fus10nx: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:35] <jrib> CorpseFeeder: does 'dkms status' no longer return fglrx by the way?
[13:35] <beba> Anyone know of a tutorial to convert a Kubuntu desktop to Ubuntu (not just removing the kubuntu-desktop and installing ubuntu-desktop instead) but a complete process?
[13:36] <jrib> fus10nx: please watch the language in here
[13:36] <fus10nx> why is my max resolution 1280x480?
[13:36] <fus10nx> ok
[13:36] <fus10nx> sorry
[13:36] <jrib> beba: that is the complete process...
[13:36] <fus10nx> is there a way to force a higher resolution?
[13:36] <jrib> !x > fus10nx
[13:36] <M0badedr> any one can help me i wanna use firewall for controling bandwidth
[13:36] <reaper> beba: it's called metapackages :D
[13:36] <CorpseFeeder> jrib: oh fanx... and dkms status returns no file now.
[13:36] <beba> jrib: It is not, because a lot of KDEs packages are left over and the login is KDM and I am unable to switch users and do a lot of things
[13:37] <PsiTrax> ive xubuntu and trying to share some folder with samba, but in "Shard Folders" dialog all buttosn are disabled. Samba is installed and running and im in the sambashare group?
[13:37] <beba> reaper: What do you mean?
[13:38] <ultraskeptic> Have you ever used ubuntu on a pentium II 400 MHz based machine, with 256 MB of RAM, ATI Agp video card and 40GB of ram? The overhead is too high?
[13:38] <ilaiho> is ubuntu still as likely to break as it was at the past?
[13:39] <CorpseFeeder> jrib: ok.. I am still unsure what I should google for from that file... I see the backtrace bit at the bottom.. but is means nothing to me...
[13:39] <reaper> beba: kubuntu-desktop groups all the packages required for kubuntu , same thing with ubuntu
[13:39] <CorpseFeeder> *it
[13:39] <M0badedr> i wanna config the firewall for controling bandwidth any ideas....
[13:39] <jrib> !puregnome | beba
[13:39] <n8tuser> ultraskeptic-> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LowMemorySystems
[13:40] <jrib> CorpseFeeder: i would just try the lines in the backtrace to see if you can turn up anyone having the same issue
[13:40] <ultraskeptic> n8tuser: thankz
[13:40] <M0badedr> guys????
[13:41] <jrib> CorpseFeeder: throw in stuff like Xorg.0.log and ati
[13:41] <markginter31> M0badedr -- what have you tried?
[13:41] <beba> jrib: Ah perfect! But my login manager and splash screens will still be KDE/Kubuntu
[13:42] <pc06> hi
[13:42] <jrib> beba: maybe not.  Those packages should get removed
[13:42] <markginter31> pc06 - hi
[13:43] <TheMafia> Does Hardy have the ntpd package? I cannot seem to location it
[13:44] <jrib> TheMafia: apt-cache search -n ntp
[13:45] <xjkx> i was listening to music on  rhythmbox then i closed the software, now i want to listen to youtube videos but there is no sound, i am into this since weeks, anybody around ??
[13:45] <xjkx> if i reboot it works, but thats bad
[13:45] <jrib> xjkx: what version of ubuntu?
[13:45] <xjkx> last
[13:45] <jrib> !version | xjkx
[13:45] <markginter31> xjkx -- 8.04 or 8.10
[13:46] <xjkx> Ubuntu 8.04.1
[13:46] <fus10nx> Can anyone PLEASE tell me why my resolution won't go above 1280x480?
[13:46] <jrib> xjkx: it's a known issue on 8.04.  It should go away if you upgrade to 8.10
[13:47] <fus10nx> i am trying everything and it's not working
[13:47] <fus10nx> in Windows I can have my displays so 2304x864 with dual view
[13:47] <pvh_sa> my f-spot 0.5.0.3 on intrepid is crashing with a BadRequest - anyone else seeing this? got ideas?
[13:47] <jrib> fus10nx: did you try the recommendations in the link I sent you?
[13:47] <fus10nx> yes
[13:47] <ardchoille> How do I get gnome-terminal to re-read ~/.bash_aliases after editing the file?
[13:47] <xjkx> jrib: :// do you know what process i could kill/restart so it would work ?
[13:47] <jrib> ardchoille: source ~/.bash_aliases
[13:47] <xjkx> i ain't upgrading now
[13:47] <ardchoille> thanks
[13:47] <CorpseFeeder> jrib: this sounds similar to my issue http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6083749
[13:48] <jrib> xjkx: try restarting pulseaudio: /etc/init.d/pulseaudio restart
[13:48] <fus10nx> i mean, i am forcing my resolutions -- Option "MetaModes" "2304x864,2304x864; 1024x768,1024x768"
[13:48] <markginter31> pvh_sa -- nope
[13:48] <funkyHat> xjkx: do you have pulseaudio-esound-compat installed?
[13:48] <BillyLeeCN1> :)
[13:48] <jrib> CorpseFeeder: yes!  This is what I saw
[13:48] <markginter31> fus10nx -- you're using fglrx?
[13:48] <markginter31> fus10nx -- 8.04 or 8.10
[13:49] <fus10nx> 8.04
[13:49] <markginter31> fus10nx -- and fglrx?
[13:49] <xjkx> funkyHat: how do i check that
[13:49] <markginter31> fus10nx -- because I'm familiar with using xrandr and the stock ati driver to acheive mega screens...
[13:49] <fus10nx> Do you think I'd have better luck with 8.10 or something?
[13:49] <fus10nx> well this is nvidia....
[13:49] <fus10nx> but I was trying to force it with xrandr
[13:49] <fus10nx> --fb
[13:50] <fus10nx> and it still won't go :/
[13:50] <markginter31> fus10nx -- oh -- not sure how to help you with nvidia :( sorry
[13:50] <benoka> hi all, i recently installed ubuntu and downloaded a file that needs a "perl client" to run; can someone give me an example of a perl client?
[13:50] <markginter31> fus10nx -- you're using the prorietary driver? -- I don't think xrandr plays with that...
[13:50] <fus10nx> i'm using the nvidia-glx-new
[13:50] <fus10nx> but even just manually editing the xorg.conf file -- am trying to force the modes
[13:50] <Wobert_> Is it possible to set up a virtual webcam, that can show images, mpeg, avi ect ?
[13:51] <funkyHat> xjkx: look for it in synaptic package manager or do 'aptitude show pulseaudio-esound-compat | grep State'
[13:51] <fus10nx> I've been trying to get this to work for several days and I just don't think ubuntu can do the resolutions like Windows can
[13:51] <markginter31> fus10nx -- ok - I sort of lied about nvidia knowledge -- but it's been over a year since I tinkered ... what i ran into before had to do with the monitors and their sections in the xorg file
[13:51] <Tetracomm> I am trying to install libsigc++ and it won't: http://pastebin.com/d500f499a Help?
[13:51] <fus10nx> markginter31: haha YOU LIAR! -- so exactly what did u have to do?
[13:51] <markginter31> fux10nx -- so maybe focus on the monitor issues and forcing particular vsync and hsync lines and that may fix it for you...
[13:51] <fus10nx> ok
[13:52] <CorpseFeeder> jrib: i have to sleep. I will just have to leave this thing downloading overnight and get back to it in the morning.
[13:52] <fus10nx> so the monitor section of xorg.conf you mean?
[13:52] <jrib> CorpseFeeder: k
[13:52] <markginter31> fus10nx -- but I remember spending waaaaay too much time on that ....
[13:52] <fus10nx> grrr
[13:52] <dreivier_> hi. I have a ubuntu 8.04 2.6.24-21-xen systems configured with lvm+sw raid. this is working so far, but after rebooting the system it has all lvm partitions deactivated. If I do modprobe dm_mod and reactivate the lvm volumes, everything is working again. Any ideas how to fix this?
[13:52] <fus10nx> why can't this just be easier :/
[13:52] <markginter31> fus10nx -- yeah - I think so .. again - it's been a while ...
[13:53] <ottoshmidt> A4Tech Webcam doesn't work properly on 8.10, it did on 8.04 :((((
[13:53] <markginter31> fus10nx -- it's way easier with ati at this point :)
[13:53] <markginter31> at least for me ...
[13:53] <loner__> HI guys, my webcam is no longer detected since i upgraded from 8.04 to 8.10, does anyone know how to fix it ?
[13:53] <maek0> hi all .. which version of xorg is in Intrepid ?? is it 7.4 ??
[13:53] <markginter31> loner___ go see the person in person? :)
[13:53] <fus10nx> i don't understand modelines what so ever
[13:53] <Wobert_> lol
[13:53] <fus10nx> do you know how that all works?
[13:53] <markginter31> maek0 1.5.2 I believe ...
[13:54] <markginter31> fus10nx - you mean with ati?
[13:54] <fus10nx> just in general
[13:54] <fus10nx> what all the damn numbers mean
[13:54] <loner__> markginter that sure will work
[13:54] <markginter31> fus10nx -- you mean for the hsync/vsync (monitor stuff) ...
[13:54] <fus10nx> i am looking at an example
[13:54] <fus10nx>  Modeline        "1280x1024_60.00"  108.88  1280 1360 1496 1712  1024 1025 1028 1060  -HSync +Vsync
[13:54] <Typhox> How do I rebuild my xorg.conf???
[13:54] <platius> loner__; is gspca-source installed?
[13:54] <fus10nx> what the hell are all those numbers for?
[13:55] <markginter31> fus10nx -- can you paste your xorg file in the pastebin site?
[13:55] <jrib> markginter31: 7.4, yes
[13:55] <maek0> markginter31, thanks
[13:55] <loner__> platius let me check
[13:55] <fus10nx> certainly
[13:55] <markginter31> jrib -- too many numbers :)
[13:55] <fus10nx> just a second please
[13:55] <loner__> platius no it's not
[13:55] <jrib> markginter31: erm, right.  somehow maek0 got the info he wanted :)
[13:55] <Typhox> Please I have to know how to rebuild my xorg.conf ...
[13:55] <fus10nx> I just added the mode line so exclude that for now until I test it in a few seconds
[13:55] <fus10nx> http://pastebin.com/m25d45ece
[13:56] <platius> loner__; you need it
[13:56] <Typhox> ...
[13:56] <loner__> platius i'm installing it
[13:57] <fus10nx> markginter31: and just so you know, the only resolution it let's me choose is 1280x480
[13:57] <fus10nx> if I go to the ubuntu screen resolution application
[13:57] <markginter31> fus10nx -- ok - I'm completely guessing -- but you may need a second monitor section for your second monitor.
[13:57] <fus10nx> well as of right now it's doing an extended desktop
[13:57] <fus10nx> jhust so you are aware
[13:57] <loner__> platius the webcam is still not detected, do i have to reboot ?
[13:58] <Typhox> So I have to reinstall ubuntu because my xorg.conf-File is invalid??
[13:58] <markginter31> fus10nx -- sorry, remind me of your original question then?
[13:58] <adobongkangkong> hi, does anyone knows if iphone3g works under virtualbox?
[13:58] <fus10nx> I am trying to increase the screen resolution
[13:58] <adobongkangkong> !iphone
[13:58] <markginter31> Typhox -- sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[13:58] <fus10nx> something to the effect of 2304x864 (windows handles that fine with my projectors)
[13:58] <adobongkangkong> !ifuse
[13:58] <platius> loner__; probably  http://lwn.net/Articles/291036/ here is a list
[13:59] <ph8> does anyone know a way to limit nautilus operations on my root partition / to say... 12mb/s so that big file moves (like the 150gb i'm currently moving) don't make my computer crawl?
[13:59] <markginter31> fus10nx -- so it's stretching out the 1240x480 the whole way rather than the 2304x864?
[13:59] <fus10nx> correct.
[13:59] <fus10nx> it is in fact seeing it as 1 large display which is great
[13:59] <fus10nx> just the resolution is off
[14:00] <markginter31> fus10nx -- so it 'appears' correct but reports the wrong resolution?
[14:00] <rien-ne-va-plus> hi guys, whats the best way to watch analog TV with ubuntu?
[14:00] <fus10nx> exactly
[14:00] <PerSeL> can anyone tell me the mid ubuntu edition channel if there is
[14:00] <markginter31> fus10nx -- is this more of an annoyance the a problem?  or is there something it's not allowing you to do?  have you tried the nvidia-tool?
[14:00] <adobongkangkong> hi, does anyone knows if iphone3g works under virtualbox?
[14:01] <fus10nx> no, it's a problem. And yes whenever I try the nvidia-settings tool I can't click on things the application jumps around my screen
[14:01] <fus10nx> it's quite strange
[14:01] <fus10nx> and then i thought maybe it was the ubuntu install so i did a fresh install....twice
[14:01] <markginter31> fus10nx -- hmm ... I think this is beyond me ... sorry :(
[14:01] <irm> Has anyone encountered unexpected behavior with uswswap?
[14:02] <platius> rien-ne-va-plus;  what tuner car do you have?
[14:02] <Na-Fiann> Hi, I was wondering, since the xorg.conf is largely empty since 8.04, where is configuration done? I ask this, because it used to be very easy to see what video driver you're using, but now it just says "configured video device" which tells me exactly nothing. Why are the settings hidden these days?
[14:02] <loner__> platius my webcam is not in the list, thanks anyway
[14:02] <fus10nx> it's OK. Thanks for trying
[14:02] <ActionParsnip> hey all
[14:02] <rien-ne-va-plus> platius: i think its a typhoon tv tuner card, im not sure
[14:02] <dr_willis> Na-Fiann,  you can still use a customized xorg.conf if you have some old ones.. X is supposd to 'auto configure' for the most part these days. it dosent always work
[14:03] <dr_willis> Na-Fiann,  the x logs may give you mor einfo on what drivers its using exactly
[14:03] <ActionParsnip> is it possible to make opera running on ubuntu appear to be another browser?
[14:03] <Na-Fiann> dr_willis: if I change xorg.conf, do the changes stay if there is an update?
[14:03] <rien-ne-va-plus> platius: i think no drivers are installed :/
[14:04] <dr_willis> Na-Fiann,  never noticed.. i would imagine they should
[14:04] <Frogging101> Sound isn't working since I upgraded to Ubuntu 8.10. The devices are set to ALSA, sound isn't muted, the system detects my sound card, and it worked before the update.
[14:04] <ActionParsnip> Na-Fiann: yes they are persistant
[14:04] <markginter31> ok - anyone here fight with suspend/resume before?
[14:04] <Na-Fiann> ok ty
[14:04] <Frogging101> yes i did
[14:04] <oneboy> halo
[14:04] <Frogging101> On Ubuntu, there are many problems with suspending and resuming
[14:04] <markginter31> Frogging101 -- check and see if an external amplifier? device is chosen in the preferences -- i've run into this before
[14:05] <ActionParsnip> Frogging101: oh so many
[14:05] <Frogging101> yes it was selected
[14:05] <markginter31> unselect it and try your sound
[14:05] <Frogging101> okay
[14:05] <threexk> hello.  I accidentally pressed some keys and made my screen all blurry.  What did I do?
[14:05] <ph8> does anyone know a way to limit nautilus operations on my root partition / to say... 12mb/s so that big file moves (like the 150gb i'm currently moving) don't make my computer crawl?
[14:06] <markginter31> threexk - i think you pressed some keys and made your screen blurry
[14:06] <markginter31> :)
[14:06] <platius> rien-ne-va-plus;  sudo lshw -C multimedia
[14:06] <Frogging101> markginter31: It doesn't work :(
[14:06] <markginter31> threexk -- are you using compiz?
[14:06] <threexk> markginter31: yes, I mean, which keys did I press?
[14:06] <threexk> markginter31: yes, I think so
[14:06] <ActionParsnip> ph8: you could look into hdparam
[14:07] <threexk> markginter31: I know the packages are installed at least
[14:07] <markginter31> Frogging101 -- ok -- only other suggestion would be to max out all available volumes one by one to find which one it is .. sorry...
[14:07] <Frogging101> markginter31: Okay
[14:08] <rien-ne-va-plus> platius: SAA SAA7134/SAA7135HL
[14:08] <markginter31> threexk -- I see a blur windows option in the ccsm - but it doesn't give a key combination -- did you try logging out and back in -- you can force an X reload with ctrl-alt-bkspc
[14:08] <Frogging101> markginter31: crap it doesn't work
[14:08] <Frogging101> still
[14:08] <markginter31> Frogging101 -- what sound chipset
[14:08] <platius> rien-ne-va-plus;  install tvtime from synaptics and see if it works
[14:09] <Frogging101> aplay -l returns: INTEL ICH6
[14:10] <argetlam> anyone here like the new look of ubuntu with ibex?
[14:10] <fus10nx> markginter31: i think i may have found the problem
[14:10] <fred_> .
[14:10] <Frogging101> argetlam: jes
[14:10] <markginter31> fus10nx -- ? I'm currious
[14:10] <fus10nx> how can I disable beryl and compiz all together?
[14:10] <gonzaloaf_laptop> hello, how can I generate the locales for es_ES.UTF-8 in order to enable support for mountint ntfs-3g filesystems?
[14:10] <fus10nx> markginter31: i belive it's realated to beryl and compiz, i will let you know once i disable them
[14:10] <markginter31> Frogging101 -- http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6046299#post6046299
[14:10] <platius> rien-ne-va-plus; http://tvtime.sourceforge.net/cards.html#saa7134
[14:10] <markginter31> fus10nx -- now that would make some sense :)  Good luck!
[14:11] <fus10nx> i just gotta figure out how to shut it off :)
[14:11] <rien-ne-va-plus> platius: thanks, ill try to figure out myself
[14:11] <markginter31> fus10nx -- it should be in the appearance preferences
[14:11] <platius> rien-ne-va-plus;  tvtime should work
[14:12] <NSR> hello, does anyone know how to make a usb to serial work in 8.10?
[14:12] <markginter31> NSR for what?
[14:12] <tomcathp> hi all ! I would like to sync my Windows Mobile pda phone with ubuntu Hardy. anyone help me ?
[14:12] <fus10nx> well it fixed my application from jumping around the screen but I never turn on beryl only compiz
[14:12] <NSR> mouse
[14:13] <M0badedr> i wanna moniter the traffic
[14:13] <markginter31> NSR - it doesn't just plug in and work?  Is it a reaaaally new mouse?
[14:13] <markginter31> fus10nx -- you can use synaptic to get rid of beryl/compiz
[14:14] <fus10nx> k
[14:14] <gonzaloaf_laptop> hello, how can I generate the locales for es_ES.UTF-8?
[14:14] <argetlam> Frogging101: you really like the default look?
[14:15] <fus10nx> can i just do a "sudo apt-get remove compiz" and "sudo apt-get remove beryl" ?
[14:15] <M0badedr> i'm using iptables
[14:15] <NSR> its a serial mouse
[14:15] <M0badedr> i wanna log the traffic
[14:15] <paul68> BlueEagle: did you succeed with your kernel?
[14:15] <yagga> !wireshark
[14:15] <gonzaloaf_laptop> !locale
[14:15] <markginter31> fus10nx -- I find it easier to use synaptic -- it'll search down the packages for you and then you choose 'completely remove'
[14:16] <markginter31> gonzaloaf_laptop --> maybe? http://forum.ntfs-3g.org/viewtopic.php?p=205
[14:16] <BulBulRed> fus10nx: here's an (outdated!!) : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=569654&highlight=LIBGL_DEBUG%3Dverbose+glxinfo|less&page=2
[14:16] <BulBulRed> check STEP 1
[14:16] <fus10nx> does beryl install automatically?
[14:16] <M0badedr> guys
[14:16] <BulBulRed> and STEP 4
[14:16] <fus10nx> cus i'm searching for beryl and i cant find it :/
[14:17] <BulBulRed> it's now known as Compiz
[14:17] <markginter31> fus10nx -- it would just be compiz -- beryl was rolled back in
[14:17] <bazhang> fus10nx, there is no beryl
[14:17] <NSR> my mouse is connected to a usb adapter
[14:17] <Ohmu_> How to find where a symbolic link is linking to?
[14:17] <fus10nx> oh ok
[14:17] <markginter31> NSR - oh --
[14:17] <BulBulRed> http://www.compiz-fusion.org/ --> "Compiz Fusion is the result of a merge between the well-known Beryl composite window manager and Compiz Extras, a community set of improvements to the Compiz composite window manager."
[14:18] <fus10nx> so just search for compiz
[14:18] <markginter31> fus10nx - yep
[14:18] <markginter31> NSR -- did you sudo modprobe usbserial?
[14:18] <bazhang> fus10nx, what are you trying to do
[14:18] <BulBulRed> Ohmu_: ls -lah
[14:18] <bazhang> just alt f2 metacity --replace
[14:19] <alin> how i update my ubuntu's version?
[14:19] <NSR> no
[14:19] <bazhang> !upgrade > alin
[14:19] <fus10nx> fantastic, it's un-installing now
[14:19] <alin> k
[14:19] <markginter31> NSR - dunno -- maybe that would work?  I don't have a serial mouse ...
[14:19] <Stalker72> What makes Deluge better than Transmission?
[14:19] <panfist> i had 4 disk drives plugged into my system. i created a raid array of those four drives then shut down. i plugged in an additional drive and attempted to transfer files to the raid array. the transfer froze and i rebooted. the new drive now doesn't show any partitions in /dev, just the drive itself /dev/sda. fdisk -l tells me that /dev/sda1 does exist. blkid tells me that only /dev/sda exists and it is of type mdraid. what do i have to d
[14:20] <alin> thx
[14:20] <alin> and how i know my ubuntu version?
[14:20] <paul68> alin: uname -r
[14:20] <markginter31> Stalker72 -- I think you're asking a personal preference question.  Whichever works for you better is what makes it best
[14:21] <bazhang> !version > alin
[14:21] <paul68> alin: oeps is kernel version
[14:21] <yagga> cat /etc/*-release
[14:21] <markginter31> oh - I get it -- Mr. Ubottu(o)?  Funny ..
[14:21] <bazhang> Stalker72, ask in #ubuntu-bots
[14:22] <Stalker72> bazhang: What do you mean, and how?
[14:22] <NET||abuse> hmm, thunderbird, enigmail ubuntu 8.10 64bit, doesn't work, i need to get a pgp mail system that is easy to use and works on mac/linux/windows,, anyone know how to get enigmail working,  or got another suggestion?
[14:22] <bazhang> !best > Stalker72
[14:22] <leleobhz> someone here got problem mounting cryptoloop FS's created on ubuntu 8.04 in 8.10?
[14:22] <Frogging101> markginter31: it still doesn't work!
[14:23] <Stalker72> bazhang: How do I join that channel?
[14:23] <bazhang> Stalker72, /j #channelname
[14:23] <Stalker72> bazhang: Thanks
[14:24] <Frogging101> markginter31: It still doesn't work!
[14:24] <markginter31> Frogging101 -- hmm ... dunno how to help any better than that forum post...  double check all your steps just to make sure.  It seems like a lot to follow ...
[14:24] <Stalker72> bazhang: How can I communicate with bots? :P
[14:24] <Frogging101> is ActionParsnip still here?
[14:25] <Frogging101> Sound isn't working since I upgraded to Ubuntu 8.10. The devices are set to ALSA, sound isn't muted, the system detects my sound card, and it worked before the update.
[14:26] <EggsOverGreasy1> Is there an Intel video configuration tool similar to the Nvidia settings tool? I made a fresh install of 8.10 on a box w/Intel video card, and it gives me 1152x864 (4:3) as the default resolution. I can switch to 1280x1024 but aspect ratio is 5:4, which leaves a black space. I noticed the xorg config file seems blank, some text but no settings.
[14:26] <alin> how i login into shells using ubuntu?
[14:26] <Frogging101> Sound isn't working since I upgraded to Ubuntu 8.10. The devices are set to ALSA, sound isn't muted, the system detects my sound card, and it worked before the update and external amplifier is unchecked.
[14:26] <markginter31> EggsOverGreasy1 -- none that I know of.  This wouldn't be a BIOS setting (stretch) would it?
[14:26] <Stalker72> bazhang: How do I ask the bots?
[14:27] <yagga> Stalker72: precediew/ !
[14:27] <EggsOverGreasy1> bios. I don't think so. I've had pclinuxos and ubuntu 7 running no problems.
[14:27] <maty> how do i mount a raid linear in unbuntu
[14:27] <Stalker72> precediew/ !
[14:27] <Stalker72> yagga: ???
[14:27] <markginter31> EggsOverGreasy1 -- that would seem to indict the new driver in 8.10
[14:27] <Frogging101> Sound isn't working since I upgraded to Ubuntu 8.10. The devices are set to ALSA, sound isn't muted, the system detects my sound card, and it worked before the update and external amplifier is unchecked.
[14:27] <yagga> Stalker72: !google for example
[14:28] <Frogging101> !google
[14:28] <mib_hn7qwy1g> g8
[14:28] <Stalker72> !google
[14:28] <EggsOverGreasy1> yeah, i would install a new driver but...
[14:28] <Stalker72> yagga: I don't get it .........
[14:28] <maty> how do i mount a linear raid "two harddisk"
[14:28] <mib_hn7qwy1g> g8
[14:28] <yagga> Stalker72: ok sry man
[14:28] <Frogging101> Sound isn't working since I upgraded to Ubuntu 8.10. The devices are set to ALSA, sound isn't muted, the system detects my sound card, and it worked before the update and external amplifier is unchecked.
[14:29] <ActionParsnip1> hey all
[14:29] <Frogging101> Sound isn't working since I upgraded to Ubuntu 8.10. The devices are set to ALSA, sound isn't muted, the system detects my sound card, and it worked before the update and external amplifier is unchecked.
[14:29] <ActionParsnip1> how can i purge settings from apps if i uninstalled them but didnt use --purge
[14:29] <Tetracomm> I am trying to install libsigc++ and it won't: http://pastebin.com/d500f499a Help?
[14:29] <ActionParsnip1> ?
[14:30] <derspankster> Rhythmbox can't find my music on my server since 8.10 install. Path is correct, Totem can play files OK.  Worked in Hardy.
[14:30] <bazhang> Tetracomm, why do you need that
[14:30] <ActionParsnip1> Tetracomm: sudo apt-get -f install
[14:30] <Frogging101> Sound isn't working since I upgraded to Ubuntu 8.10. The devices are set to ALSA, sound isn't muted, the system detects my sound card, and it worked before the update and external amplifier is unchecked.
[14:30] <ActionParsnip1> Tetracomm: sudo apt-get clean
[14:30] <ActionParsnip1> Tetracomm: sudo apt-get update
[14:31] <Tetracomm> bazhang: I am trying to install Gnusound
[14:31] <bazhang> !info gnusound
[14:31] <bazhang> Tetracomm, install from repos
[14:31] <Frogging101> GNUsound? would that solve problems like this: Sound isn't working since I upgraded to Ubuntu 8.10. The devices are set to ALSA, sound isn't muted, the system detects my sound card, and it worked before the update and external amplifier is unchecked.
[14:31] <Tetracomm> bazhang: That is what I am using.
[14:32] <Frogging101> !info sound
[14:32] <Frogging101> !sound
[14:32] <NET||abuse> hmm, so anyone have a solution, ubuntu 64bit thunderbird, need pgp encryption and if it can work on at least my bosses windows laptop w/thunderbird also that would be great.
[14:32] <Frogging101> Sound isn't working since I upgraded to Ubuntu 8.10. The devices are set to ALSA, sound isn't muted, the system detects my sound card, and it worked before the update and external amplifier is unchecked.
[14:33] <Tetracomm> Actionparsnip1: http://pastebin.com/d3897e4c0
[14:33] <maurice_> hello what package do i need when my theme manager says the theme will not look as intended because the required gtk theme is not installed?
[14:34] <Frogging101> Sound isn't working since I upgraded to Ubuntu 8.10. The devices are set to ALSA, sound isn't muted, the system detects my sound card, and it worked before the update and external amplifier is unchecked. How do I get it working?
[14:34] <derspankster>  Rhythmbox can't find my music on my server since 8.10 install. Path is correct, Totem can play files OK.  Worked in Hardy.
[14:34] <codazoda> I've got a command I have to run every time I suspend my system.  After it wakes up, I have to reset the rate on my wlan0 interface using iwconfig.  Where can I put that command to get it to run automatically on wake up?
[14:34] <cumulus007> !nvidia
[14:34] <Delaya> hey need help moving multiple files (a folder) over network with scp is it possible?
[14:35] <cumulus007> !nv
[14:35] <cumulus007> !codecs
[14:35] <Frogging101> Sound isn't working since I upgraded to Ubuntu 8.10. The devices are set to ALSA, sound isn't muted, the system detects my sound card, and it worked before the update and external amplifier is unchecked. How do I get it working?
[14:35] <ActionParsnip1> Tetracomm: sudo dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/libsigc++-1.2-5c2_1.2.7-2_i386.deb
[14:35] <jrib> Delaya: scp -r
[14:35] <cumulus007> thanks
[14:35] <alin> how i get things on my windows partition? using ntfs write??~!
[14:35] <jrib> alin: install and run ntfs-config
[14:35] <Delaya> jrib: that will move the whole folder?
[14:35] <Frogging101> !soundcard
[14:35] <Frogging101> !module
[14:35] <alin> oh thx
[14:35] <jrib> Delaya: yes
[14:36] <Frogging101> oh noses
[14:36] <Frogging101> Sound isn't working since I upgraded to Ubuntu 8.10. The devices are set to ALSA, sound isn't muted, the system detects my sound card, and it worked before the update and external amplifier is unchecked. How do I get it working?
[14:36] <snoopcat> Are there any updates for gimp?
[14:36] <musiclife> hello
[14:36] <Frogging101>  
[14:36] <Frogging101>  
[14:36] <FloodBot1> Frogging101: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:36] <Frogging101> whoops
[14:36] <alin> and how do i get that?
[14:36] <Frogging101> Sound isn't working since I upgraded to Ubuntu 8.10. The devices are set to ALSA, sound isn't muted, the system detects my sound card, and it worked before the update and external amplifier is unchecked. How do I get it working?
[14:37] <Tetracomm> Actionparsnip1: http://pastebin.com/d792ef645
[14:37] <M0badedr> can i connect the server via firestarter to conf. it
[14:37] <snoopcat> That happened to me...
[14:37] <jrib> alin: same way you get all other software in ubuntu.  You use a frontend to APT like system -> administration -> synaptic
[14:37] <snoopcat> I had to get a new sound chip
[14:37] <Masterkiller> i'm trying to build a kernel using ubuntu live cd but when i go to do make modules_install i always run out of virtual disk space (memory) does anyone have any suggestions?
[14:37] <alin> oh
[14:37] <alin> thx
[14:37] <alin> :)
[14:37] <Frogging101> Sound isn't working since I upgraded to Ubuntu 8.10. The devices are set to ALSA, sound isn't muted, the system detects my sound card, and it worked before the update and external amplifier is unchecked. How do I get it working?
[14:37] <fus10nx> YES!
[14:37] <fus10nx> got it to work
[14:37] <fus10nx> YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES!
[14:38] <codazoda> What script runs commands on resume from suspend?
[14:38] <musiclife> !list
[14:38] <maek0> Masterkiller, buy some more RAM ?? Its dirt cheap nowdays
[14:38] <mib_hn7qwy1g> k
[14:38] <mib_hn7qwy1g> ohh
[14:38] <snoopcat> whats the difference between ubuntu and kubuntu?
[14:38] <Frogging101> does nobody know how to fix my sound problem? Ive tried so many things.
[14:38] <maek0> snoopcat, ubuntu uses GNOME and kubuntu uses KDE
[14:39] <snoopcat> oh...
[14:39] <snoopcat> whats kde?
[14:39] <snoopcat> lol
[14:39] <jrib> snoopcat: a different desktop environment.  Ubuntu and Kubuntu just have a different set of default packages
[14:39] <codazoda> snoopcat, it's a window manager.
[14:39] <M0badedr> do anyone knows anything abt firestarter ????
[14:39] <Frogging101> !lol | snoopcat
[14:40] <snoopcat> wow.
[14:40] <jrib> M0badedr: someone probably knows something about it.  Ask a better question
[14:40] <Frogging101> Sound isn't working since I upgraded to Ubuntu 8.10. The devices are set to ALSA, sound isn't muted, the system detects my sound card, and it worked before the update and external amplifier is unchecked. How do I get it working?
[14:40] <codazoda> Frogging101, that is annoying, stop.
[14:40] <h4wk0> !repeat | Frogging101
[14:40] <M0badedr> i wanna use firestarter to conf my iptables but the server i'm installing the iptables do not have any kde
[14:41] <maxbaldwin> What's a good torrent client?
[14:41] <_pirinto_> I've added this line to crontab as root
[14:41] <_pirinto_> @reboot /home/cesi/scripts/mount_usb_drive.sh
[14:41] <jrib> M0badedr: why do you need kde for firestarter?
[14:41] <_pirinto_> but this does not seem to work. /var/log/syslog reports that the job is run, but I do not see any results. What am I doing wrong?
[14:41] <jrib> !torrent | maxbaldwin
[14:41] <M0badedr> so can i connect the iptables form another ubuntu desktop computer
[14:41] <jrib> _pirinto_: why are you using cron for that?
[14:41] <maty> hey
[14:42] <maxbaldwin> jrib: what do you suggest/use?
[14:42] <DawnLight> hey friends. NetworkManager is overwriting my /etc/resolv.conf and i react emotionally. how do i control myself? no, really... can i get NM to not touch that file, or some other way to define a static nameserver?
[14:42] <maty> i need to access this harddrive well two there raid linear how do i access them from ubuntu?
[14:42] <jrib> maxbaldwin: btdownloadcurses, you probably won't like it
[14:42] <_pirinto_> somehow adding that line to fstab (mounting an usb-drive) makes ubuntu stall at bootup telling me that the drive does not exist
[14:42] <maty> i need help >_< 1tb at risk
[14:43] <jrib> _pirinto_: is the usb drive always connected?
[14:43] <elmer> hello
[14:43] <_pirinto_> jrib: yes
[14:43] <maxbaldwin> jrib: well... I'll stick to transmission then.
[14:43] <codazoda> maty: The short answer, mount them.  Depends on what type they are, how they are formatted, etc.
[14:44] <_pirinto_> jrib: I had this line on fstab before:
[14:44] <_pirinto_> jrib: /dev/sda1       /media/usbdisk  ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       1
[14:44] <ubd> there is one thing i dont understand. when installing programs from synaptic. it succesfully downloads and installs dependencies, however when uninstalling it does not remove useles libraries etc or does it
[14:44] <M0badedr> jrib: i wanna use firestarter to conf my iptables on the server but the server does not have any kde can i manage it thrugh my desktop
[14:44] <jrib> _pirinto_: use UUID not /dev/whatever
[14:45] <_pirinto_> jrib: ok I'll google it up, thanks
[14:45] <jrib> M0badedr: you mean you have no X on the server?
[14:45] <M0badedr> what does u mean by x???
[14:45] <maty> how do i mount a RAID?
[14:45] <maxbaldwin> M0badedr: graphical environment? like GNOME or KDE?
[14:45] <jrib> _pirinto_: just do 'ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid/' to find the UUID and then use UUID=whatever_it_is instead of /dev/sda1
[14:45] <derspankster> Sorry but just one more time.  Rhythmbox can't find my music on my server since 8.10 install. Path is correct, Totem can play files OK.  Worked in Hardy.
[14:46] <M0badedr> ya i do not have X
[14:46] <maxbaldwin> M0badedr: so your in a shell / terminal?
[14:46] <M0badedr> can i use my ubuntu desktop to connecte the server(iptables) to conf it
[14:46] <syntaxeus> Does anyone know if PHP's fopen, fwrite and fread locks the file beeing read and thus is safe for concurrent calls?
[14:46] <_pirinto_> jrib: I ran the program blkid and got the UUID, was that correct also?
[14:46] <froduntu> good morning (at least for me) chanel
[14:46] <jrib> _pirinto_: yep, that works
[14:46] <M0badedr> ya in a shell
[14:47] <geirha_> DawnLight: dhclient is the one overwriting your resolv.conf. man dhclient.conf and edit /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf accordingly
[14:47] <maxbaldwin> froduntu: good morning to you also.
[14:47] <rhe> kgsdfg
[14:47] <kemik25> hi everyone.. nice to meet you all..
[14:47] <maxbaldwin> M0badedr: I'm not too experienced with servers, but I think firestarter is client side, therefore you maybe want to go to #ubuntuserver
[14:47] <rhe> hjvhk
[14:48] <M0badedr> ok
[14:48] <maxbaldwin> rhe: no.
[14:48] <kemik25> i am having problem with usb headset .. anyone could help...
[14:48] <maty> ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid/ < syas no such file
[14:48] <DawnLight> geirha_: thanks
[14:48] <jrib> M0badedr: I guess you could do this, I don't really see why though.  You could set rules on your desktop using firestarter and then run 'sudo iptables-save' to get the rules... then transfer them over and set them up....  I think it makes more sense to just install X if you really need to use firestarter on the server, or to learn to use ufw which is easier to work with than iptables
[14:48] <jane_> hello
[14:48] <jrib> maty: what version of ubuntu
[14:48] <kemik25> ubuntu 7.10..
[14:48] <jane_> not sure
[14:49] <maxbaldwin> jrib: what is the ubuntu server channel?
[14:49] <froduntu> got a slight issue... can't login in gnome, it says to check .xsession-errors and when I do there are a couple of lines, that show errors, one of the first is sabayon-apply no profile for 'user' found
[14:49] <jane_> never used this before
[14:49] <shampoo> jane_, irc ?
[14:49] <kemik25> i bought new plantronics headset but no sound... the device detected as Plantronics Headset (alsa mixer). any one can help...
[14:49] <jrib> froduntu: pastebin the file
[14:49] <jane_> irc ?
[14:49] <jrib> maxbaldwin: #ubuntu-server
[14:50] <shampoo> jane_, you said "this" before.. what is "this" ?
[14:50] <DawnLight> geirha_: but... my configuration in /etc/network/interfaces is static... no dhcp client should be running
[14:50] <froduntu> jrib: excuse my ignorance what do you mean by pasten bin the file ?
[14:50] <jrib> !paste | froduntu
[14:50] <maxbaldwin> jrib: thanks.
[14:50] <maty> how do i mount an id?
[14:50] <jrib> maty: huh?
[14:51] <howitzermod_> ok sorry again how do i join the channel #python it tells me i have to be identified when i try
[14:51] <jrib> !register | howitzermod_
[14:51] <maty> GUIID
[14:51] <maty> i mean UUID
[14:51] <maty> is it the number or the long name?
[14:51] <M0badedr> what is the chat room for ubuntu server #ubuntuserver no one in it
[14:51] <jrib> !uuid | maty
[14:51] <jrib> M0badedr: did you read what I told you?
[14:52] <DawnLight> oh, i've just purged network-manager. period. thanks
[14:52] <M0badedr> u told me to go to #ubuntuserver
[14:52] <jrib> M0badedr: no I didn't...
[14:52] <nikolam> Who is the moron that destroyed help.ubuntu.com search and put it into Google?
[14:52] <nikolam> Grrr
[14:52] <jrib> M0badedr: I guess you could do this, I don't really see why though.  You could set rules on your desktop using firestarter and then run 'sudo iptables-save' to get the rules... then transfer them over and set them up....  I think it makes more sense to just install X if you really need to use firestarter on the server, or to learn to use ufw which is easier to work with than iptables
[14:52] <maty> cant you just give me an example
[14:53] <maxbaldwin> M0badedr: _I_ told you to go there, but the chanel's wrong. do what jrib says, he's good at that kind of stuff.
[14:53] <M0badedr> jrib where???
[14:53] <M0badedr> go where???
[14:53] <jrib> :/
[14:53] <froduntu> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu.com/72373/
[14:53] <_pirinto_> jrib: One question, does this syntax look ok?, (considering the UUID is correct)
[14:53] <_pirinto_> 46a17a48-30b1-42c4-b90b-0070338bdfcf       /media/usbdisk  ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       1
[14:54] <jrib> _pirinto_: no, you need UUID= at the beginning
[14:54] <_pirinto_> ah thanks
[14:54] <adminuser> adiom,hjnhuydjkmggk
[14:54] <jrib> maty: I don't know what you are trying to do
[14:55] <maty> i have two hdd sata they was setup as a linear raid i want to mount them on unbuntu to get a file
[14:55] <ubd> is there a way to change quickly between keyboards en-ger-chinese etc
[14:55] <froduntu> I pasted the file... I know you are being spread quite thin
[14:55] <jrib> maty: I don't know anything about raid
[14:55] <PerSeL> where can i get the ubuntu pda's edition? or it's the moblin one? if so what pda's it supports?
[14:56] <jrib> froduntu: are you using sabayon?
[14:56] <maty> well how do i mount a HDD by the UUID an example
[14:56] <froduntu> I have no idea what sabayon is
[14:56] <jrib> maty: you just want to mount it once?
[14:56] <maty> yes
[14:56] <ubd> is there a way to change quickly between keyboards en-ger-chinese etc
[14:56] <ubd> is there a way to change quickly between keyboards en-ger-chinese etc
[14:56] <ubd> aargh
[14:56] <FloodBot1> ubd: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:56] <jrib> maty: you wouldn't use UUID.  Just use mount on the block device...
[14:57] <maty> how
[14:57] <_pirinto_> jrib: Ok, just to be sure:
[14:57] <_pirinto_> UUID=46a17a48-30b1-42c4-b90b-0070338bdfcf       /media/usbdisk  ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       1
[14:57] <_pirinto_> y/n?
[14:57] <jrib> maty: mount DEVICE MOUNT_POINT
[14:57] <jrib> _pirinto_: shouldn't be 1 at the end
[14:57] <maty> device as in /dev/sda1
[14:57] <_pirinto_> alright
[14:58] <jrib> maty: so now you know it's: mount /dev/sda1 MOUNT_POINT
[14:58] <maty> i tried that
[14:58] <jrib> !who | maty
[14:58] <jrib> maty: and what happened?
[14:58] <maty> it says linux raid member
[14:58] <drjors> !who
[14:59] <maty> "unkown filesystem type"
[14:59] <EggsOverGreasy1> I did a fresh 8.10 install on a Sony desktop running an Intel graphics card, where Ubuntu 7.x and PCLinuxOS have installed no problem, but now on 8.10 while it installs okay I have 1152x864 (4:3) as the default resolution and while I can switch to 1280x1024 the aspect ratio is wrong at 5:4, which leaves a black space. I noticed the xorg config file seems blank, some text but no settings. Is there an Intel video configurati
[14:59] <dulak> maty: you have to mount the md device, not the partition directly
[14:59] <jrib> _pirinto_: I mean, the 1 should be a 2 or a 0 depending on whether or not you want it to be fscked or not
[14:59] <dulak> maty: like /dev/md0 instead of /dev/sda1 as an example
[14:59] <dulak> maty: check /dev for mdX devices
[15:00] <maty> dulak theres no md*
[15:00] <_pirinto_> jrib: yeah I kinda got that.  thank you jrib
[15:00] <maty> i just looked
[15:00] <LjL> ubd: sure, add the "keyboard indicator" applet to your panel
[15:00] <bazaab_> Question -- What's a good antivirus program for linux?  More for scanning archives and such than the actual filesystem.
[15:00] <hyperair> does anybody know where i can find typeinfo.h?
[15:00] <froduntu> I can come back later, my kde is working
[15:00] <hyperair> it seems missing
[15:00] <froduntu> so that should help for now
[15:00] <jrib> bazaab_: clam
[15:00] <Tetracomm> I can't install libsigc++ and gnu sound and other programs won't work, help?: http://pastebin.com/d792ef645
[15:00] <bazaab_> jrib: thanks.  I should have thought of that since I carry it on my usb stick lol
[15:01] <jrib> Tetracomm: why are you using dpkg like that?
[15:01] <maty> dulak: theres no md*, i just looked
[15:01] <maurice_> anyone know what gtk theme i need? theme manager says its not installed/
[15:01] <ardchoille> !info google-earth
[15:01] <poboy975sleep> quick question, how do I mount an usb dvd burner? I plugged it it, but it doesnt show up
[15:01] <LjL> ardchoille: it's in medibuntu
[15:01] <lucabecchetti> hi boys, i create a repository in /home/svn/repos and all work fine, form more computers i con checkout the repos, now i go to my webroot from console and in /var/www/proj i checkout a repository with users test, then i create a post-commit script, but i recevie this error, svn: Can't open file '/var/www/proj/.svn/lock': Permission denied, if i use sudo all it's ok, i use ubuntu server, some idea?????
[15:01] <ardchoille> LjL: Ah, thank you
[15:01] <Masterkiller> when do i need to use mkintird for a kernel and when dont i?
[15:01] <dulak> maty: what does "cat /proc/mdstat" say?
[15:02] <heret1c> ælo :)
[15:02] <maxbaldwin> lucabecchetti: no, but #ubuntu-server might have an idea.
[15:02] <Viflux> When I try to Import into Thunderbird, the only option is "Text File".  Anyone know why?  Also, if there's a more appropriate channel to ask this question in, please let me know.
[15:02] <lucabecchetti> thanks
[15:03] <fus10nx> Anyone here know how I can get mplayer to play across both of my screens?
[15:03] <maty> dulak: it says no such file or direcotry
[15:03] <poboy975linux> hello, i could use some help mounting a usb dvd burner
[15:03] <lee_1> does anyone know a distribution which is just the bare minimum to run, no extra stuff? i havent had much success building with lfs
[15:03] <dulak> maty: something is broke, you said it was raid 1?
[15:04] <imp0steur> can I get help?? I cant make
[15:04] <maxbaldwin> lee_1: xubuntu?
[15:04] <jrib> imp0steur: what are you making?
[15:04] <maty> its linear
[15:04] <maty> which ever raid that is
[15:04] <lee_1> maxbaldwin: i mean no gui
[15:04] <dulak> maty: how about "mdadm --detail --scan --verbose" that show anything?
[15:04] <lee_1> maxbaldwin: basically a kernel and the base packages
[15:04] <imp0steur> musictracker
[15:05] <bazhang> lee_1, try the minimal install
[15:05] <lee_1> uh, ok
[15:05] <bazhang> !minimal | lee_1
[15:05] <maxbaldwin> lee_1: ubuntu with alternate text install, but that might be semi-bloated. Just a shell.
[15:05] <bazhang> lee_1, its 9mb
[15:05] <jrib> !compile > imp0steur
[15:05] <imp0steur> No matter what i make, I get this message make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
[15:05] <maty> madam isnt installed
[15:05] <lee_1> cool ill try it , thanks
[15:05] <maty> is there another way?
[15:06] <dulak> maty: it doesn't think you have a raid array, mdadm is used to create raid arrays, so no idea, sorry
[15:06] <qah> Hello
[15:06] <dulak> maty: how did you create the raid in the first place?
[15:06] <maty> it was already done on my network harddrive
[15:06] <amriedle> hey everyone, when i log into Ubuntu 8.10 (clean install, updated video driver - since ati) i get a black screen and input to monitor turns off any ideas?
[15:06] <maty> its just i screwed up something on it
[15:07] <maty> and need to mount in on another system to change some stuff then i can put it back
[15:07] <maty> i changed the chown of the root :\
[15:07] <maty> which made busy box stop SUing me
[15:07] <Marsjanin> Hi again... Let me repeat my question I asked few hoiurs ago: Has anybody seen an effect like this: http://img.nopaste.pl/upload/compiz_491e9bdbc9476.png ? I've got it under COMPIZ after upgrade Ubuntu to 8.10. When using other winmanager, there's all OK; when using gmome-based apps, also, this shot is made under Opera, and it looks the same with KDE and Amarok. And, finally, menus are appearing by fade - and that part of second, when th
[15:07] <Marsjanin> appeared completly, the letters are visible.
[15:07] <qah> I have a question. Are there any "simple" open source projects? I have look at some projects on source forge, but all of that programming is kinda hard for me to understand. I am okay with programming, but I wanted to look at some open source stuff.
[15:07] <dulak> maty: it's really broken, it is not recognized as a raid array, but the partitions are marked as raid
[15:08] <maty> its the live cd does that matter?
[15:08] <maty> im running unbuntu off the live cd
[15:08] <raboof> after upgrading to intrepid, my intel PRO/Wireless 2200BG network card becomes unavailable after suspend/resume
[15:08] <trypto> hey guys i got a problem with my ubuntu 8.10
[15:08] <raboof> when I do 'dhclient eth1', it seems to run, but I don't see any DHCP packets in ethereal
[15:08] <trypto> can someone help me?
[15:08] <raboof> what could be the problem?
[15:09] <[maurice]> hello
[15:09] <[maurice]> can someone say my nick
[15:09] <dulak> maty: try modprobe raid1
[15:09] <dulak> maty: then check lsmod and see if raid1 is listed
[15:10] <Marsjanin> [maurice]: what? :D
[15:10] <Vinceman> ik ben gekickt uit offtopic, ik ga nu hier zieken
[15:10] <irm> Vinceman: This is an english speaking channel.
[15:10] <dulak> maty: it's raid0 my bad
[15:11] <Marsjanin> [maurice] I think it's French and I don't speak French, and got terrible accent in French-like words :)
[15:11] <paul68> BlueEagle: are you awake?
[15:11] <_pirinto_> jrib: it didn't work
[15:11] <_pirinto_> but when I did a mount -a as root afterwards it mounted as usual
[15:12] <[maurice]> how can i enable system beep?
[15:12] <jrib> _pirinto_: did you get errors?  (before you said it was saying the device did not exist)
[15:12] <_pirinto_> and the line in /etc/fstab was:
[15:12] <_pirinto_> UUID=46a17a48-30b1-42c4-b90b-0070338bdfcf       /media/usbdisk  ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       0
[15:12] <amriedle> [maurice]: its enabled by default did you disable it
[15:12] <magcius> [maurice], echo "\a" should do it
[15:12] <[maurice]> no, im assuming i dont have one then
[15:12] <irm> Can anyone identify what font this is: http://kerneled.org/projects/elf/49334.png
[15:13] <magcius> or not...
[15:13] <RhysU1> Any recommendations for a graphical GNU info reader?
[15:13] <_pirinto_> jrib: where should I check syslog or messages in /var/log
[15:13] <Phlogi> why is openoffice3 not added to current release?
[15:13] <jrib> magcius: you need echo -e
[15:13] <jrib> _pirinto_: both I guess.  I don't know offhand
[15:14] <magcius> jrib, thanks
[15:14] <_pirinto_> jrib: ok, I'll chck
[15:14] <Frogging101> Sound isn't working since I upgraded to Ubuntu 8.10. The devices are set to ALSA, sound isn't muted, the system detects my sound card, and it worked before the update and external amplifier is unchecked. How do I get it working?
[15:15] <[maurice]> anyone know why it says i dont have the required gtk theme installed when i go to the theme switcher?
[15:16] <adminuser> A4FHYGFVO,M  UVVRTRDSX
[15:16] <maty> dulak: i did the probe and checked and raid1 is there
[15:16] <jrib> adminuser: please write english
[15:16] <Frogging101> Sound isn't working since I upgraded to Ubuntu 8.10. The devices are set to ALSA, sound isn't muted, the system detects my sound card, and it worked before the update and external amplifier is unchecked. How do I get it working?
[15:17] <dulak> maty: linear is raid0, so do it for raid0
[15:17] <maty> ok done
[15:18] <nikin> hy
[15:18] <maty> raid0 is there
[15:19] <Frogging101> Sound isn't working since I upgraded to Ubuntu 8.10. The devices are set to ALSA, sound isn't muted, the system detects my sound card, and it worked before the update and external amplifier is unchecked. How do I get it working?
[15:19] <dulak> maty: ok check for /proc/mdstat
[15:20] <maty> command not found
[15:20] <Ione> Hey all
[15:20] <jrib> _pirinto_: it might be that usb isn't setup before the things in fstab are mounted.  If you don't put your usb in fstab and login it should be automatically mounted though.  Is there a reason you don't want to do this?
[15:20] <Ione> does anyone know if it's possible to assign custom functions to the keypresses of an old USB keyboard?
[15:20] <dulak> maty: it's not a command: cat /proc/mdstat
[15:21] <unop> Ione, give us an example of what you'd like to do.
[15:21] <nikin> i Have a Bt878 based TV tuner, and i bought a Swann Outdoor Color Camera and hooked it up on the Composite ... It works fine Execept it has no color... I have tried all the settings of PAL and NTSC and Pal-Nc works the best but no color is present
[15:21] <cricido> i tried to install ubuntu eee version bua it stoped
[15:21] <cricido> i tried to install ubuntu eee version but it stopped at the first screen
[15:21] <_pirinto_> jrib: I had it like that before (I use dapper btw) but I didn't want to use X anymore so instead for it automounting when it entered GNOME I tried to add it to my fstab
[15:22] <Ione> for example have the 'g' key on my second keyboard launch gedit but keep my main keyboard functioning normally
[15:22] <maty> dulak: ok done, says personaliites : [raid1] [raid0] unused devices <none>
[15:22] <Frogging101> Sound isn't working since I upgraded to Ubuntu 8.10. The devices are set to ALSA, sound isn't muted, the system detects my sound card, and it worked before the update and external amplifier is unchecked. How do I get it working?
[15:22] <nikin> Here in Hungary the TV norm is PAL-GB so i thought maybe the Camera and the Tuner are Incompatible (cam is PAL (AU UK))
[15:22] <dulak> maty: ok now see if there are any md* devices in /dev
[15:23] <maty> dulak: nope
[15:23] <dulak> maty: not sure how to get it working then, without mdadm
[15:23] <nikin> cricido: Grab a normal ubuntu install hook up the wired network, download the kernel from array dot org
[15:23] <cricido> if will iinstall ubuntu
[15:23] <cricido> normal?
[15:23] <SafeWay> hi how to reset viritual screen settings?
[15:23] <lee_1> whats the difference between the linux-generic and linux-image-x.x.x.x-generic packages?
[15:24] <nikin> cricido: if you have a 900 The liveCD will be ok.. If a 700 i would do a Minimal Console Install
[15:24] <Dai> is there a solution for the problem : "can't write any email on hotmail with last firefox and last (k)ubuntu ?"
[15:24] <cricido> i have 700
[15:24] <maty> dulak: im installing mdadm
[15:25] <nikin> normal = not the eee versionű
[15:25] <Ione> not possible?
[15:25] <Frogging101> Sound isn't working since I upgraded to Ubuntu 8.10. The devices are set to ALSA, sound isn't muted, the system detects my sound card, and it worked before the update and external amplifier is unchecked. How do I get it working?
[15:25] <_pirinto_> jrib: the weird thing i s that running mount -a solves it all, maybe I should add that to crontab with a @reboot flag
[15:25] <cricido> yes i undestand
[15:25] <unop> Ione, i'm not sure how that would be done - as far as i know, xorg can only support one keyboard per display. even if you were able to have multiple keyboards, having xorg differentiate keystrokes from the second keyboard would be difficult.
[15:25] <nikin> I had a 700 i installed a minimal console isstem with 8.04 Disc
[15:26] <cricido> ok
[15:26] <nikin> Connected to the network thru the cable
[15:26] <nikin> went to array.org, got the repos there installed the eee kernel
[15:26] <cricido> now i download ubuntu normal iso
[15:26] <nikin> restarted
[15:26] <nikin> and made some tweaks also available on the website.
[15:27] <nikin> cricido: the 8.04?
[15:27] <maty> dulak: will it work in live cd?
[15:27] <dulak> maty: I don't know, never done it from a livecd
[15:27] <jrib> _pirinto_: here's how one person got around it: http://blog.symbiotic-development.com/2008/05/05/mounting-removable-drives-at-boot-in-eeexubuntu/ there must be a better way though
[15:27] <cricido> i have only ubuntu-eee-8.04.1.iso
[15:27] <Ione> unop: It doesn't need to be parsed as 'keystrokes' though does it not in the same way a keybord would do, it would function more like a game controller
[15:27] <maty> dulak: seems to be working fine
[15:27] <Ione> anyway it was just an idea i had no idea of the tecnical limitations
[15:27] <cricido> i tried to install ubuntu eee version but it stopped at the first screen
[15:27] <nikin> cricido: but do not download 8.10
[15:28] <nikin> it has no support yet AFAIK
[15:28] <maty> dulak: i mean installing fine
[15:28] <maty> dulak: ok installed
[15:28] <jvm_> hi. my ubuntu 8.10 forgets it's ethernet configuration with every restart. why?
[15:28] <dulak> maty: mdadm --detail --scan --verbose
[15:28] <nikin> i dont know the eee version sorry... cant help you installing that
[15:28] <Ultrahex> when i am booting into Ubuntu 8.10 i get a black screen and video input turns off (note i can rum gdm/x properly from recovery mode just fine)
[15:28] <BlueEagle> dulak: Have you set it up in /etc/network/interfaces ?
[15:28] <Frogging101> hello
[15:29] <cricido> wait go i have to download normal ubuntu iso 8.04?
[15:29] <cricido> is it correct?
[15:29] <jeromeg> hello
[15:29] <BlueEagle> Ultrahex: Check that your monitor can handle the settings in xorg.conf
[15:29] <Ultrahex> BlueEagle: will do brb
[15:29] <maty> dulak: ok, did that was it suppose to output anything
[15:29] <nikin> cricido: yes i believe
[15:29] <Ultrahex> exit
[15:29] <jeromeg> anyone running ubuntu on amd64 here ? I need three seconds of your time to test build something ?
[15:29] <_pirinto_> jrib: thanks I'll do some reading there, thanks again
[15:30] <dulak> maty: it should show your raid array
[15:30] <nikin> what kind of eee do you have?
[15:30] <Phlogi> why is openoffice3 not added to current release?
[15:30] <BlueEagle> Ultrahex: If you're using an older monitor you might have to specify the sync ranges.
[15:30] <jrib> _pirinto_: he just adds mount commands to /etc/rc.local
[15:30] <maty> dulak: nothing happens
[15:30] <unop> Ione, well, the idea is you need a program to act on the input coming from the second keyboard - and as far as xorg goes, that input is keystrokes - but xorg can't tell if a keypress like G comes from the first or second keyboard.
[15:30] <dulak> maty: it's not seeing that array at all
[15:31] <arpu> hello
[15:31] <magcius> Yo.
[15:31] <arpu> i do a  update from 8.04 -> 8.10 sevrer with sudo do-release-upgrade
[15:31] <maty> dulak: how do i fix?
[15:31] <Dai> is there a solution for the problem : "can't write any email on hotmail with last firefox and last (k)ubuntu ?"
[15:31] <arpu> at the beginning the program said i need to run liloconf + /bin/lilo ?
[15:32] <lee_1> damnit why does the minimal installer keep throwing errors at me because it fails to install the kernel!?
[15:32] <nikin> unop: there was a project about running 4 monitors keyboards and mice on one computer for 4 users... dont know much about it.. but maybe worth a googleing
[15:32] <lee_1> dpkg returned error code 1
[15:32] <dulak> maty: start over and reinstall, I am not sure why it won't recognize the array
[15:32] <lee_1> what does that even mean?
[15:32] <dulak> maty: raid0 sucks like that, any error on either disk jacks both
[15:32] <unop> Phlogi, I believe OO.org 3 is currently beta
[15:32] <RinTinTigger> programs dont minimize to the top panel anymore...can someone help?
[15:32] <maxbaldwin> lee_1: what were you using before?
[15:32] <lee_1> maxbaldwin: nothing
[15:32] <BlueEagle> lee_1: Did you check the md5sum to verify that the download isn't corrupt?
[15:32] <arpu> can i rebbot now ? without lilo ?
[15:33] <Phlogi> unop: nope, not at all
[15:33] <lee_1> BlueEagle: this is the minimal install cd
[15:33] <adobongkangkong> how can I make virtualbox detect my usb devices in my ubuntu hardy host. I followed instruction on editing stuff in /etc/init.d but still unable to mount any usb devices.
[15:33] <mercutio22> I am reposting a question here from yesterday, please don't get insane at me. I think I can be more specific this time. Gparted won't show my partitions because my partition table is bad and some partitions are laying off the disk. http://paste.ubuntu.com/72395/
[15:33] <maxbaldwin> lee_1: you weren't using ubuntu before?
[15:33] <maty> dulak: what you mean?
[15:33] <unop> nikin, that's multi-seat xorg - not really what he wants, he's on a single seat configuration wanting to use two keyboards
[15:33] <unop> nikin, anyway, he's gone.
[15:33] <lee_1> maxbaldwin: no, this is on a machine with what (was) a blank HDD
[15:33] <BlueEagle> lee_1: Never mind. I mis-read you.
[15:33] <erkin> hi, i have a newly bought fujitsu siemens laptop and cant connect to wireless networks on ubuntu. i need help
[15:33] <arpu> the grub menu list shows me only
[15:33] <lee_1> its failed on both linux-generic and linux-image-2.6.27-7-generic kernels
[15:33] <RinTinTigger> can anyone help? Programs dont minimzie to the top panel anymore (like amarok)
[15:33] <arpu> title           Ubuntu 8.04, kernel 2.6.24-16-server
[15:34] <dulak> maty: when you stick the two drives together into 1, any error on either disk makes the entire array bad, which means you double your chance of data loss for no increase in performance
[15:34] <maxbaldwin> lee_1: Maybe get ubuntu + gnome and strip what you don't need. like apt-get remove gdm. probably won't help if it's a kernel error.
[15:34] <mercutio22> is there a way to fix it? I know they are starting at the proper cylinders, its just the end thats messed up
[15:34] <BlueEagle> erkin: in a terminal run `lspci` and identify which kind of wireless network adapter you have.
[15:34] <nikin> unop: i see... i was just thinking on how they separated the keyboards in that project... :)
[15:34] <kampret> hi
[15:34] <lee_1> maxbaldwin: i dont want to do that, i'd rather build a system up than cut one down
[15:34] <adobongkangkong> how can I make virtualbox detect my usb devices in my ubuntu hardy host. I followed instruction on editing stuff in /etc/init.d but still unable to mount any usb devices. Do i need linux headers installed? If so which one?
[15:34] <lee_1> why the heck is it failing at the kernel, its like the last task in installing the base
[15:34] <froduntu> jrib, I solved it, just wanted to relay, turns out I didn't have pulse audio
[15:34] <erkin> BlueEagle, 04:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR242x 802.11abg Wireless PCI Express Adapter (rev 01)
[15:35] <BlueEagle> !atheros
[15:35] <nikin> RinTinTigger: you have a program list there ?
[15:35] <maxbaldwin> lee_1: can't help you, sorry.
[15:35] <lee_1> :(
[15:35] <mercutio22> so, is there a way to take away that last cylinder from partitions 4 and 7?
[15:35] <adobongkangkong> !virtualbox
[15:35] <Dai> is there a solution for the problem : "can't write any email on hotmail with last firefox and last (k)ubuntu ?"
[15:35] <froduntu> jrib, I'm talking about my previous issue not being able to log into ubuntu
[15:35] <jeromeg> anyone running ubuntu on amd64 here ? I need three seconds of your time to test build something
[15:35] <unop> nikin, well, they separate each set of devices to a particular display and run multiple displays.
[15:35] <BlueEagle> mercutio22: gparted should be able to do that iirc.
[15:35] <jrib> froduntu: ah, right.  I forgot about you :)  Glad you got it
[15:36] <rien-ne-va-plus> does anyone here have experience with tvtime?
[15:36] <NoVARaif> morning all - I just recently upgraded my home server from 8.04 LTS to 8.10, and now my samba shares and printers are unavailable to either my Windoze or Mac boxes....  anyone up to sharing some troubleshooting pointers?
[15:36] <jrib> froduntu: in the future use the person's nick when responding to questions
[15:36] <unop> Phlogi, http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-To-Install-OpenOffice-org-3-0-in-Ubuntu-8-10-96449.shtml
[15:36] <Tetracomm> jrib: Someone told me to.
[15:36] <rien-ne-va-plus> for some reason it seems to not work with my tv-card, even though its flawlessly detected
[15:36] <maty> dulak: how do i fix?
[15:36] <froduntu> jrib, that's ok you were really busy, at the time
[15:36] <BlueEagle> erkin: Read the link that ubottu provided and hollor back when you've got a more spesific idea as to where it fails. :)
[15:36] <froduntu> jrib, so I just left quietly... but thanks
[15:37] <erkin> thx BlueEagle
[15:37] <jrib> Tetracomm: well I don't see why
[15:37] <lee_1> argh, now its going red and telling me it failed to run dpkg --force-depends --install var/cache/apt/archives/libc6_2.8~somestuff.deb
[15:37] <mercutio22> BlueEagle> gparted can't see my partitions, it gives an error "Can't have a partition outside the disk!
[15:37] <lee_1> this is a rather problematic cd
[15:37] <maty> dulak: im going to put the hardrives back into the network thing and see if it works :\
[15:37] <nikin> rien-ne-va-plus: what about other TV programs? motv xawtv?
[15:37] <NoVARaif> I've looked at the samba logs, reinstalled samba after backing up my smb.conf, and am not sure where to go from here?
[15:38] <Tetracomm> jrib: I really want to install some plugins and GnuSound. :(
[15:38] <rien-ne-va-plus> nikin: i have problems getting xawtv to work, is there a channelscan somewhere?
[15:38] <lassesandberg> hello guys.. im about to use distro upgrade thingy to upgrade to 8.04 (from 7.10).. im wondering is it possible to set up a system restore point or something, anything short of taking a snapshot backup of the entire partition.. its because last i tried upgrading like taht ubuntu went haywire and had to reinstall, and start from scratch, would hate for that to happen again
[15:39] <kri> hi, i have to open alsamixer with the command 'alsamixer -D hw:0' to get everything up, what do i have to do so i get the same (master + PCM etc not just master) when i just hit 'alsamixer'?
[15:39] <lee_1> so it fails installing the kernel, then if I try to install again it fails at libc6
[15:39] <maxbaldwin> lassesandberg: backup ~/ then do it.
[15:39] <trypto> hey guys
[15:39] <lee_1> ok, how much space is required for the ubuntu "base" system
[15:39] <trypto> is there someone who's a BLOGGER?
[15:39] <maxbaldwin> hello trypto
[15:39] <jpds> !ot | trypto
[15:40] <nikin> rien-ne-va-plus: not in xawtv but there is one in motv
[15:40] <lassesandberg> maxbaldwin wont that only backup my user? are you sure if i then went back and overwrote that my entire ubuntu system would restore to 7.10 as it is now?
[15:40] <rien-ne-va-plus> nikin: where do i get motv?
[15:41] <nikin> rien-ne-va-plus: sudo apt-get install motv
[15:41] <maty> dulak: do you know general linux
[15:41] <maxbaldwin> lassesandberg: if you have settings you want to keep, backup ~/. if you don't care, and have certain files, back them up to a flash disk or something.
[15:41] <icqnumber> is there a way to activate input methods options in firefox, like it is for other gtk applications?
[15:41] <Ultrahex> BlueEagle: so i checked my xorg.conf it seems to be fine, i even added the resolution settings that were missing but still the same thing happens
[15:41] <trypto> guys i'm looking for COLLABORATORS to keep a BLOG UP
[15:41] <ActionParsnip1> !ot | trypto
[15:41] <rien-ne-va-plus> nikin: negativ, cant find the package
[15:42] <lassesandberg> maxbaldwin: its not just settings, its the entire system.. if my distro upgrade fails and ubuntu completely screws up and wont start, will my personal user settings make any difference?
[15:42] <bazhang> trypto, try in #ubuntu-offtopic not here
[15:42]  * NoVARaif wonders if there is anyone who could help with his samba troubleshooting efforts?
[15:43] <nikin> rien-ne-va-plus: ok then lets fall back to tvtime
[15:43] <ActionParsnip1> NoVARaif: sup?
[15:43] <maty> is it possible to change the owner of a file if your the owner but you dont have permissions to change it:\
[15:43] <ActionParsnip1> NoVARaif: samba is easy
[15:43] <Ultrahex> maty: root/sudo
[15:43] <nikin> rien-ne-va-plus: so what do you experience in tvtime?
[15:43] <BlastuR> hey.. i have a dual monitor setup, (nvidia based card).. it seems to work fine, i have 2 desktops. The only problem is, when i start programs on screen 2, they appear on Screen 1 .. and i can't move them back to screen 2 (they just move to workspace #2 of screen 1)
[15:44] <ActionParsnip1> maty: sudo chown <new owner> <file>
[15:44] <unop> maty, only root can give files away like that.
[15:44] <NoVARaif> morning ActionParsnip1 !  I upgraded from 8.04 LTS to 8.10 last week....  Samba seems to have lost it's mind after working previously for a couple versions of ubuntu
[15:44] <maty> Ultrahex: I cant
[15:44] <BlastuR> anyone know how to configure ubuntu to start programs in the "focused" screen instead of always screen #1?
[15:44] <maty> i cant access root
[15:44] <rien-ne-va-plus> nikin: i open the software and start a channel scan, but no channels are detected, i already tried a different cable, but that doesnt seem to be the problem
[15:44] <NoVARaif> ActionParsnip1: Now, my shares and printers are unavailable to my Windoze and Mac clients
[15:44] <Ultrahex> maty: why can you not run sudo or use root >?
[15:44] <ActionParsnip1> unop: can the original owner of the file transfer ownership?
[15:44] <mdddddd> !ops
[15:44] <rien-ne-va-plus> nikin: the card is detected as SAA7134 compatible, its a typhoon tv tuner rds
[15:44] <maty> su: BusyBox binary has insufficient rights to set proper GID for applet!
[15:44] <ActionParsnip1> NoVARaif: can i see your /etc/samba/smb.conf
[15:44] <icqnumber> is there a way to activate input methods options in firefox, like it is for other gtk applications?
[15:44] <jrib> mdddddd: yes?
[15:45] <nikin> rien-ne-va-plus: did you check the input settings? PAL SECAM NTSC and theese things?
[15:45] <unop> ActionParsnip1, not as far as i know - only the super user can do that.
[15:45] <nikin> rien-ne-va-plus: which country are you in?
[15:45] <ActionParsnip1> unop: makes sense though
[15:45] <jrib> techman224: describe your actual issue
[15:45] <mrkris> anyone here have issues getting rmagick to install on ubuntu 8.10 server ?
[15:45] <unop> ActionParsnip1, yea, but some other unixes allow that tho - and you can see why that'd be allowed.
[15:45] <NoVARaif> ActionParsnip1: Sure, I just can't recall the name of the site where I can post things temporarily? lol
[15:45]  * NoVARaif slurps his coffee
[15:45] <ActionParsnip1> !paste | NoVARaif
[15:45] <thiebaude> hi actionparsnip
[15:45] <Ultrahex> I am still fighting with the issue that Ubuntu 8.10 boots into a black screen... i can only boot into Ubuntu from recovery mode manually and everything for the most part works, any ideas
[15:46] <ActionParsnip1> hi thiebaude
[15:46] <rien-ne-va-plus> nikin: so i cannot figure out, where the problem is, whether tvtime has problems with the card, the card with the system, or the card with the broadcaster. ive set PAL europe, there is not much more settings to make. i tried the tvtime configurator, which doesnt have more settings either
[15:46] <NoVARaif> ActionParsnip1: back inna few
[15:46] <Markooki> is there any particular problem with downloading ubuntu or xubuntu? i've been trying to download it many times, firefox, gwget, bittorrent, it always fails. ubuntu servers are over-used?
[15:46] <lee_1> what are the kernel option differences in linux-image-2.whatever-generic and *-server?
[15:46] <Ultrahex> Markooki: try a differnt mirror
[15:46] <nikin> rien-ne-va-plus: did you try other settings?
[15:47] <rien-ne-va-plus> nikin: i tried the tvtime-scanner as well, which didnt detect any signals, so id like to test out whether tvtime is linked correctly to the card
[15:47] <Markooki> but why dont they use torrents?
[15:47] <Ultrahex> Markooki: there is torrents for Ubuntu
[15:47] <nikin> rien-ne-va-plus: france is SECAM
[15:47] <rien-ne-va-plus> nikin: well yeah ill try some out... really not much to mess around with
[15:47] <ActionParsnip1> lee_1: its a server kernel more optomised for server use (background processes more attended would make sense)
[15:47] <rien-ne-va-plus> nikin: thanks, but im in germany ;)
[15:47] <lee_1> ActionParsnip1: ok
[15:47] <NoVARaif> ActionParsnip1: http://paste.ubuntu.com/72400/
[15:48] <nikin> rien-ne-va-plus: Germany is PAL BG  :D
[15:48] <Bupsss> hi, is it possible to do a make in a specific dir?
[15:48] <Markooki> Ultrahex: yes, but there are also connection exceptions :'-(
[15:48] <Bupsss> i mean creating the files in a folder i want
[15:49] <nikin> rien-ne-va-plus: did you try to hook up a video or a DVD on it?
[15:49] <rien-ne-va-plus> nikin: yeah so thats my current setting...are there other tools to at least test the tv-card? like a raw scanner like it exists for dvb-t ?
[15:49] <icqnumber> is there a way to activate input methods options in firefox, like it is for other gtk applications?
[15:49] <Ultrahex> Markooki: then there must be something wrong with your system/internet cause i am fine grabing packages etc
[15:49] <kat> Hey everyone. I have NVIDIA GeForce 8600M GT, and just upgraded to 8.10 and now it doesn't work. Im in "low resoution mode". How do I make it work?
[15:49] <eternau74> hi, does somebody know how to get the ip of a certain website?
[15:49] <eternau74> there was a command but I can remember it
[15:49] <ActionParsnip1> NoVARaif: looks nice, id add "valid users = <username>" to each. and also add "invalid users = root" for security
[15:49] <lee_1> eternau74: hostname domain.com
[15:49] <rien-ne-va-plus> nikin: i have another tv-card (dvb-t) and a dvd drive plugged to the system, but i want to watch via the analog tv-card
[15:49] <unop> eternau74, dig  domainname.com
[15:49] <lee_1> host*!!
[15:49] <lee_1> not hostname xD
[15:50] <ActionParsnip1> NoVARaif: have you ran sudo smbpasswd <user name>
[15:50] <mooded> kat, go to system->system settings->hardware drivers or smth like that. there install nvidia proprietary drivers (177 series)
[15:50] <eternau74> there we go, thanks =)
[15:50] <kri> where is the bashrc in ubuntu?
[15:50] <icqnumber> is there a way to activate input methods options in firefox, like it is for other gtk applications?
[15:50] <NoVARaif> ActionParsnip1: I'll do that .. brb
[15:50] <Markooki> Ultrahex: i don't think it's the same servers for images, as packages.. seems most servers are running heavy since the release of 8.10
[15:50] <maxbaldwin> kri: ~/.bashrc
[15:50] <sloucher> just ping it eternau74 "ping yahoo.com"
[15:50] <cricido> where can i find eee ubuntu version ?
[15:50] <lee_1> sloucher: but host is designed for that job specificially
[15:50] <unop> Bupsss, it depends, do you want to build the source in a certain directory or install the compiled binaries to a specific target directory?
[15:50] <maxbaldwin> sloucher: ping www.yahoo.com. I think it needs the www
[15:51] <kat> mooded, i've done that.. but when i restart it says it doesnt work
[15:51] <bazhang> !eeepc
[15:51] <ActionParsnip1> NoVARaif: also make sure you can ping between the systems by name and ip for completenesss
[15:51] <Bupsss> unop, i want to build the source in a certain directory.... i dont want to overwrite the files in my system
[15:51] <unop> maxbaldwin, yahoo.com and www.yahoo.com probably point to different hosts - both are valid
[15:51] <bazhang> icqnumber, quick-locale-switcher
[15:51] <kat> mooded, it says this driver is activated and currently in use....  ? but it's not
[15:51] <maxbaldwin> unop, okay.
[15:52] <icqnumber> bazhang, what is this
[15:52] <maxbaldwin> wasn't sure, I thought web sites needed the www.
[15:52] <mooded> kat, how did you get the info that its not in use ?
[15:52] <bazhang> icqnumber, its a ff plugin to change input method
[15:52] <kat> mooded, when i restarted
[15:52] <mooded> kat, do a "glxinfo| grep -i direct"
[15:52] <icqnumber> !info quick-locale-switcher hardy
[15:53] <bazhang> icqnumber, not in repos; get from firefox addons site
[15:53] <unop> maxbaldwin, not necessarily, the www is just a convenience and most hosts forward to www if not specified like google.com and yahoo.com, etc
[15:53] <kat> mooded, a bunch of lines saying "GLX missing on display"
[15:53] <mooded> kat - is glx loaded in your xorg.conf then ? (did you manually adjust anything in that file, btw ?)
[15:54] <maxbaldwin> unop: ok, sure. I know my school doesn't do that.
[15:54] <kat> not that i know of.... but mooded , brb. i gotta do something.
[15:54] <lee_1> what is an LTSP Chroot?
[15:54] <ActionParsnip1> !chroot
[15:54] <unop> Bupsss, let's say you've extracted the source to /foo/   mkdir  build; cd build; ../configure; make # etc
[15:55] <lee_1> i know what a chroot is
[15:55] <lee_1> but what the hell is LTSP?
[15:55] <maty> is it possible to enable SSH to allow null passwords
[15:55] <platius> rien-ne-va-plus;  I see  PAL,PAL-m,PAL-N,PAL-NC,PAL-60 as choices in tvtime inputs
[15:55] <unop> lee_1, Linux Terminal Server Project
[15:55] <lee_1> unop: what would this be used for?
[15:55] <rambo3> stations
[15:55] <virtualstefan13> question: Do you use DOCK? specifically what dock?
[15:55] <rambo3> teminal stations
[15:55] <lee_1> for use by who?
[15:56] <lee_1> can i leave LTSP chroots out?
[15:56] <icqnumber> bazhang, i think it is something else, i need that option input methods->cyrillic transliterated in firefox
[15:56] <unop> lee_1,  setting up a terminal server - so that dumb client can use the desktop and applications on the server  rather than have them installed on the clients.
[15:56] <lee_1> unop: ok, so I guess I can install without this?
[15:56] <virtualstefan13> anyone knows a dock like OS X
[15:56] <ActionParsnip1> lee_1: http://developer.novell.com/wiki/index.php/KIWI-LTSP
[15:56] <NoVARaif> ActionParsnip1: I cannot ping my server by name from one of the XP workstations... I don't know if I ever setup DNS...  Being a home network, would you recommend DNS or something else on the ubuntu server?
[15:56] <lee_1> ok, i'll not use this then
[15:57] <ActionParsnip1> NoVARaif: does ip work? you should get dns from your router
[15:57] <bazhang> !awn | virtualstefan13
[15:57] <dr_willis> !dock
[15:57] <unop> lee_1, unless you see yourself needing this, i don't think you need to enable this option.
[15:57] <NoVARaif> ActionParsnip1: yep, can ping the server by ip addy
[15:57] <dr_willis> i get all sorts of video issues with AWN. :()
[15:57] <ay^> uh.. I have a problem.. My system just today started getting kernel panics fairly random it seems, where can I read about what might gone wrong?
[15:57] <lee_1> ok, what about LILO over GRUB? which is best for a single-booting system?
[15:57] <fus10nx> is there a way to fully hide the main, top Ubuntu taskbar?
[15:57] <rambo3> !avahi
[15:57] <virtualstefan13> thanks anyways... tried kiba dock.. dont know how to install.. hehehe
[15:58] <dr_willis> lee_1,  lilo is rarely used these days..
[15:58] <ActionParsnip1> NoVARaif: yu could put the samba server on static ip then add an entry to it in your HOSTS file
[15:58] <NoVARaif> ActionParsnip1: something else is going on....  I can't browse to my server from the xp client anymore
[15:58] <Masticor1> I get "conversion error" when I try copy a dvd with dvd95. Anyone know how to fix this?
[15:58] <lee_1> dr_willis: but is it good or crap for a single-booting system?
[15:58] <ActionParsnip1> NoVARaif: via ip or name?
[15:58] <mooded> fus10nx, there is nothing like an "ubuntu" panel.
[15:58] <NoVARaif> ActionParsnip1: can't browse to it via IP addy anyway..
[15:58] <bazhang> Masticor1, what is dvd95
[15:58] <icqnumber> bazhang, i think it is something else, i need that option every time i right click on the input field in firefox, in pop up menu-> input methods->cyrillic transliterated in firefox
[15:58] <mooded> fus10nx, i guess you mean the "gnome panel"
[15:59] <bazhang> icqnumber, not sure there sorry
[15:59] <the_alamo> where can i find the blueprint for the next release of ubuntu?
[15:59] <NoVARaif> ActionParsnip1: in a way, I'd rather avoid dealing with hosts files on each client
[15:59] <Masticor1> bazhang: dvd ripping tool
[15:59] <bazhang> Masticor1, try k9copy
[15:59] <mooded> fus10nx, i guess you could just remove the panel via right-click->delete this panel.. (but i dont know if thats a useful thing)
[15:59] <Masticor1> bazhang: I get errors there too
[15:59] <lee_1> damnit, now grub fails to install- what a waste of time
[15:59] <NoVARaif> ActionParsnip1: while i've only been dabbling with ubuntu as needed (as the best replacement for a Windoze server IMHO, I'm not afraid to try new things :)
[16:00] <lee_1> lilo it is...
[16:00] <platius> Masterkiller; have you tried acidrip?
[16:00] <ty> hello people
[16:00] <Masterkiller> platius, no i havent
[16:00] <ty> acidrip works great
[16:00] <platius> Masterkiller;opps
[16:01] <NoVARaif> ActionParsnip1: I've worked with, and supported, Windoze machines for many years, as I'm sure most of us have.  I just got tired of all the BS and overhead of maintaining a windoze server at home and started the conversion to linux and mac wherever possible on my network
[16:01] <mooded> lee_1, only know grub failing when the boot-directory is on an xfs-partition or at least not on a ext3-partition..
[16:01] <ty> Masterkiller: acid-rip works great
[16:01] <lee_1> mooded: hah, you got it, it is xfs
[16:01] <ActionParsnip1> NoVARaif: eww mac is nasty ;)
[16:01] <NoVARaif> ActionParsnip1: my 'conversion' started about 2 years ago
[16:01] <rsc-> just a curious question, what other DAWs do (ex-)buzzers use now?
[16:01]  * NoVARaif rofl
[16:01] <maty> Hey does anyone know about configing ssh
[16:01] <maty> ?
[16:01] <lee_1> mooded: i've installed lilo now
[16:01] <mooded> lee_1, make a small ext3-partition for the boot-directory..
[16:01] <ty> i used to copy blockbuster movies until i got told by blockbusters to stop
[16:01] <mooded> lee_1, also an option.
[16:01] <ty> i got in big trouble
[16:02] <lee_1> mooded: seems to have worked
[16:02] <rsc-> oh oops.
[16:02] <rsc-> wrong window.
[16:02] <mooded> lee_1, sure it works.. but lilo sucks compared to grub ,)
[16:02] <lee_1> mooded: its a single-OS computer so its not an issue
[16:02] <ty> irc.tyspage.doesntexist.com
[16:02] <ty> does that work
[16:02] <ty> http://irc.tyspage.doesntexist.com
[16:02] <ActionParsnip1> NoVARaif: nice, if it accessed by a windows machine, add the name / ip to the hosts file and it will be resolved
[16:03] <lee_1> Is there any way for a Ubunty system to clear the screen (tty1) before running the getty / login prompt thing?
[16:03] <mooded> lee_1, the number of os doesnt matter ,) i really appreciate the possibility to change whats going to be booted at the bootmenu..
[16:03] <ActionParsnip1> NoVARaif: id set the file server to static ip to make life way easier
[16:03] <nevyn_> Hey, I'm having some trouble with triple booting a MacBook Pro (penryn). I installed MacOS, then Windows, then Ubuntu, selecting defaults at all steps. After this, MacOS and Ubuntu works, but Windows bluescreens after a few seconds of its progress bar (it worked before installing Ubuntu). I installed refit, gptsynced, whereafter Windows couldn't find hal.dll; I fixed the boot.ini, and Windows once again starts booting; ho
[16:03] <mooded> lee_1, you dont have that option in lilo.. (for example when you switch kernels asf..)
[16:03] <NoVARaif> ActionParsnip1: server has been static IP forever ;)
[16:03] <lee_1> mooded: meh, this is only a vm for testing, i wanted to get a base system, although I wouldn't really call even an ubuntu base system "small"...
[16:04] <ActionParsnip1> good, then add the name / ip to the windows hosts file and it will circumvent dns
[16:04] <AkariChan>  question: how do i enable more than 2 desktops in xfce with compiz enabled?
[16:04] <ricgomez> hi, I'm having some problems with bind in chroot : couldn't open pid file '/var/lib/named/var/run/bind/run/named.pid': No such file or directory
[16:04] <mooded> lee_1, desktop oriented distros tend to be a lot bigger than needed for serverlike tasks..
[16:04] <AkariChan> cuz no matter how i set it, it defaults back to 1 table
[16:04] <lee_1> mooded: i spose, but i'm still quite happy with it
[16:04] <locustmage> I wanting to build a LFS. Is Ubuntu an ok enviornment or should i use the livecd for LFS? Has anyone tried it? LFS website doesnt recommend Binutils versions over 2.17 but ubuntu's is higher...along with the version of gcc. should i Be fine?
[16:04] <Masterkiller> anyone know how to chroot using the live cd? command not found??
[16:05] <mooded> lee_1, fine :)
[16:05] <ty> no
[16:05] <ty> bye people
[16:05] <bazhang> !chroot
[16:05] <ty> http://irc.tyspage.doesntexist.com
[16:05] <ty> see if that works
[16:05] <lee_1> mooded: actually at 321mb its not too bad, i tried some other "base" distros and they were all bigger/same with less functions.
[16:05] <ty> !google
[16:05] <ActionParsnip1> ty: Ty's IRC
[16:06] <Masticore> I only want to copy the dvd not ripping it to a .avi. I get erros with dvd95 and k9copy. Anyone know what it can be? libs I need or something?
[16:06] <ty> yes
[16:06] <conscience> can anybody say if this site http://www.youhide.com/ is safe ?
[16:06] <redhawk> use dvdshrink with wine
[16:06] <ty> it connects to my irc
[16:06] <NoVARaif> ActionParsnip1: the hosts file on my XP Media Center is over 263k in size, thanks to spybot S&D ... rofl
[16:06] <mooded> lee_1, yup isnt too bad.. but for servertasks i still prefer good old pure debian ;)
[16:06] <sp00f> i have it now ubottu..thanks
[16:06] <Masticore> redhawk: Does that copy the dvd or "shrink" it?
[16:06] <ty> ActionParsnip1: Its a cool php script that connects to my irc
[16:07] <redhawk> both
[16:07] <xcerca> conscience  , what do you mean , see if it's safe ?
[16:07] <redhawk> shrinks to 4.4gb
[16:07] <lee_1> mooded: fair enough, i use ubuntu server on mine, i think i'm a bit of a ubuntu fanboy :X
[16:07] <mooded> lee_1, hehe :)
[16:08] <lee_1> why is there an irc user on a base system, i dont even have an ircd installed
[16:08] <ActionParsnip1> ty: what plugin does it use. I cant see anything
[16:08] <ty> java
[16:08] <ty> or you can connect to my irc using xchat
[16:08] <ActionParsnip1> ty: ahh, java makes my entire system die
[16:08] <ty> tyspage.doesntexist.com
[16:08] <conscience> if i can go to that site and put passwords and usernames , i am trying to see if is possible to just have that site on an withelist of firesttarter
[16:08] <ty> oh
[16:08] <locustmage> I wanting to build a LFS. Is Ubuntu an ok enviornment or should i use the livecd for LFS? Has anyone tried it? LFS website doesnt recommend Binutils versions over 2.17 but ubuntu's is higher...along with the version of gcc. should i Be fine?
[16:08] <ty> you can connect with xchat
[16:08] <ty> tyspage.doesntexist.com
[16:08] <bazhang> ty, please stop
[16:08] <ty> channel #help
[16:08] <ty> ok
[16:09] <frith> is there a recommended webmail client?
[16:09] <mooded> locustmage, i guess using the livecd is the better way...
[16:10] <mooded> locustmage, _if_ that livecd contains the necessary build-env at all.. (its been a long time since i used lfs)
[16:10] <ActionParsnip1> frith: there are many mail clients, none are "recommended"
[16:10] <ActionParsnip1> frith: try a few, see what you like
[16:10] <riz_> hi
[16:10] <ty> DO any1 of yall still use windows?
[16:10] <NoVARaif> ActionParsnip1: I added my server to the XP machines hosts file, and of course, can now ping it by name ..brb
[16:10] <frith> ActionParsnip1, fair enough
[16:10] <locustmage> ok, i figured that would probably be better, but wasnt sure. just wanted to see if anyone tried lately. they have a 6.3 version. so hopefully... Lol.
[16:10] <riz_> where can i go and see what usb devices are plugged in?
[16:11] <_pirinto_> jrib: thanks for the help it seems to work now
[16:11] <bazhang> ty please chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:11] <ActionParsnip1> NoVARaif: good lad ;)
[16:11] <Skyrail> I've just installed ubuntu, it's a simple thing but the tab-completion for apt-get doesn't work, any idea how to fix it?
[16:11] <locustmage> nope not for about 2 yrs
[16:11] <NicEXE> I was playing Frets on Fire but when I quit the game my mouse pointer stuck in the middle of the screen. what should I do in order to fix it?
[16:11] <ty> awsome
[16:11] <ty> !
[16:11] <NoVARaif> ActionParsnip1: I am a geek, and I take instruction well, particularly from those whom I can learn from ;)
[16:11] <ty> i hate windows
[16:11] <ActionParsnip1> NicEXE: restart x is a good cure
[16:11] <mooded> Skyrail, apt-get not in path ?
[16:11] <ty> well cya l8r peoples
[16:11] <ActionParsnip1> NoVARaif: learning is good :)
[16:12] <bazhang> ty not here ; #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:12] <lee_1> is there any way to install the x11 base and not have it auto start and stuff, i want to run simple things with no window manager
[16:12] <NicEXE> ActionParsnipl: how to restart X?
[16:12] <Skyrail> mooded: how do you mean?
[16:12] <UnknownUser56> my ubuntu 8.10 download is ending in 2h
[16:12] <NoVARaif> ActionParsnip1: that's why I have no hair left, rofl
[16:12] <conscience> to any one who is interested on security i say that put your firestarter or firewall in withelist and them add this rule www.youhide.com
[16:12] <locustmage> I started dual booting Xandros and XP then I moved to Linux Mint then I found Ubuntu
[16:12] <UnknownUser56> woooooo
[16:12] <ty> bazhang:thank you
[16:12] <ActionParsnip1> NicEXE: ctrl + alt + backspace
[16:12] <NoVARaif> ActionParsnip1: between learning/burnin' brain cells and tryin' to pull it out, ain't much left ;)
[16:12] <UnknownUser56> Contrary to populat belief ,Windows is pretty good
[16:12] <UnknownUser56> lol @ action
[16:12] <ActionParsnip1> NoVARaif: hehe, is wisdom inversely proportional to hair?
[16:13] <sye> windows is good? hehe
[16:13] <mooded> Skyrail, --> echo $PATH, and look for dir /usr/bin (it definitely _should_ be there, but just to check)
[16:13] <riz_> anyone have any expirience with hauppauge usb tv tuner on ubuntu?
[16:13] <NoVARaif> ActionParsnip1: meh, who knows?  If I don't have hair, it's one less thing to worry about whilst showering :D
[16:13] <locustmage> this really isnt the place to get into a windows is pretty good argument
[16:13] <locustmage> lol
[16:13] <bazhang> !windows
[16:13] <Polysics> hi all
[16:13] <Polysics> my webcam refuses to work on 8.10
[16:13] <Polysics> i've installed the v4l packages from the PPA
[16:13] <Skyrail> mooded: yeh it's there :/
[16:13] <sye> I miss windows - not!
[16:13] <Polysics> and put the LD line in /etc/profile
[16:13] <NoVARaif> ActionParsnip1: where can I check, on the ubuntu box, to see if it's denying HTTP calls from the client machines?
[16:14] <Polysics> but i suspect i am missing the gscpa module in the kernel
[16:14] <Polysics> if my webcam uses the gscpa module, shoudl i see something like that in lsmod?
[16:14] <locustmage> the only thing i miss about windows is the games.. Wine is too buggy and Cedega costs
[16:14] <NoVARaif> ActionParsnip1: I can ping the silly thing, now by IP and name, but firefox on the client is still lost lol
[16:14] <Polysics> locustmage, do like me, buy a xbox 360, less money, always run newer games
[16:14] <mooded> Skyrail, so what exactly are you doing where you think there should be something completed via tab ?
[16:14]  * NoVARaif is thinking about recycling the network stack
[16:14] <platius> Polysics; install gspca-source
[16:14] <UnknownUser56> try ip:port ?
[16:15] <Polysics> platius, then?
[16:15] <Polysics> if theere is a then :-)
[16:15] <Skyrail> mooded: well I've done it before on numerous previous installs, apt-get install <use tab completion of package names here>
[16:15] <Roland123> while trying "make install" the app tells me that can't find SDL.h... where to get it?
[16:15] <platius> Polysics; phone call
[16:15] <locustmage> yeah but the big one I want to play is on PS2 (which i have just not online) and windows... FFXI Im a big FF freak and ive never played that one yet
[16:15] <UnknownUser56> google is hiding the headers
[16:15] <lee_1> Roland123: probably in some libsdl-dev or something
[16:16] <TheLostShaman> alllopp
[16:16] <TheLostShaman> anybody can help me plz
[16:16] <lee_1> Roland123: likely libsdl1.2-dev
[16:16] <Phlogi> why is openoffice3 not added to current release? I don't get it... that sucks
[16:16] <JaxxMaxx|> FFXI is not that great.   may have improved in the years its been since I was a player, though
[16:16] <locustmage> because they thought they would let open office work out their bugss
[16:16] <mooded> Skyrail, oh.. that kind of completion would be new to me.. i guess its a bash-specific configuration thing then... prolly in /etc/bash_completion - but cant you tell any details..
[16:16] <Polysics> i guess you can get a PS2 for vry little money these days
[16:17] <Skyrail> mooded: fair enough, I'll just use apt-cache search from now on then :) thanks
[16:17] <locustmage> i read the release details. same reason Kubuntu isnt relying fulling on KDE 4
[16:17] <mooded> Skyrail, np ,)
[16:17] <Polysics> it might be jsut me, but since i got the 360 and a good lcdtv i never booted a windows game again :-)
[16:17] <locustmage> well the issue is before i got into linux i bought the windows version of FFXI and then i never had the internet...
[16:18] <platius> Polysics; http://lwn.net/Articles/291036/ here is a list of supported devices
[16:18] <locustmage> now i do and i run linux. ironic huh?
[16:18] <Roland123> lee_1: tnx, but any idea on GL/glext.h?
[16:18] <Polysics> platius, the cam works flawlessy in 8.04, i just wanted to avoid downgrading the kernel if possible
[16:18] <Polysics> also because i have no idea HOW to downgrade :-)
[16:19] <locustmage> well i dont try to compare MMORPGs, but rather a fan of the series
[16:19] <lee_1> Roland123: No idea, if its to do with OpenGL, its probably a libsomething :) try looking for lib*-dev packages in synaptic
[16:19] <Polysics> after quitting WoW i won't play another MMORPG again
[16:19] <ashleyp> http://www.unsere-nackte-pyjamaparty.net/?id=1083665
[16:19] <platius> Polysics; I will have to move my cam to my 8.10 to check for you will take a minute
[16:19] <Polysics> it's like having a job in your free time too
[16:19] <Polysics> platius, many thanks
[16:20] <Polysics> my cam is a Logitech Quickcam E2500
[16:20] <lee_1> Roland123: might be libgl1-mesa-dev but i dont know
[16:20] <NoVARaif> ActionParsnip1: On the server, I can get to the generic http site for my server, as well as port 631 for printer admin and 10000 for webmin
[16:20] <NoVARaif> ActionParsnip1: I'll be back shortly...  gotta go check on the roomie
[16:20] <Polysics> i'm really lookign forward to Left 4 Dead
[16:20] <lee_1> Roland123: or maybe freeglut3-dev, i wouldnt know
[16:20] <Polysics> the demo is killer
[16:20] <ghostlines> is port 25 used in combination with other ports for sending secure mail? Or are other ports only used when sending secure mail?
[16:20] <Masterkiller> what kind of trouble am i going to run into building a kernel using ubuntu live cd on a broken red hat box?
[16:21] <locustmage> lol. yeah left for dead 4 looks interesting
[16:21] <ghostlines> my isp blocks port 25, so i was wondering if i can get by that by using ssl/tls to send secure mail via other ports
[16:21] <mooded> ghostlines, 25 is smtp in combination with tls only.. ssl-smtp is normally on 465
[16:21] <Polysics> i wasn't blown away by Fable 2, almosta disappointment
[16:21] <locustmage> I actually just played Resident Evil 4 its hard as hell
[16:21] <Polysics> basically if you don't do side quests the game is over in 3 hours
[16:21] <bazhang> !offtopic
[16:22] <Polysics> hmm, looking at lsusb, there is no webcam entry in there
[16:22] <kat> mooded, hey
[16:22] <kat> mooded, you still therE?
[16:22] <Polysics> there's a generic "Logitech Inc," thing
[16:22] <mooded> kat, ye..
[16:22] <ActionParsnip1> Polysics: is it turned on?
[16:22] <locustmage> see this is why i dont use irc
[16:23] <kat> mooded, what was it you wanted me to do?
[16:23] <Polysics> ActionParsnip1, there is nothing to turn it on on it :-)
[16:23] <Polysics> just the snapshot button
[16:23] <locustmage> im not going to switch rooms everytime idle conversation leads in a certain direction
[16:23] <Polysics> let's hope i didn't buy the ONLY webcam model that is not supported by Linux :-)
[16:24] <mooded> kat, check in xorg.conf --> 1. is "Driver"=nvidia in the "Device section" , 2. is there a Load "glx" in your "module section" ?
[16:24] <ActionParsnip1> Polysics: ok, just checking
[16:24] <krashero> hi everyone
[16:24] <Polysics> locustmage, in a sense, they are right... still, Fable 2 isn't worth 50$ :-)
[16:24] <mez_> how do i see what the name of my network card is? i mean the brand and type
[16:24] <krashero> eat my shit, assholes \o/
[16:24] <tynar> sometimes my keys does not work they are 6 7 y u h j n m, I am using dell inspiron any suggestions?
[16:24] <Polysics> the line that apperas when the cam is connected in lsusb is:  Bus 005 Device 003: ID 046d:089d Logitech, Inc.
[16:24] <krashero> r
[16:24] <krashero> r
[16:24] <krashero> r
[16:24] <FloodBot2> krashero: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:25] <Tetracomm> Was anyone here able to install Laoe?
[16:25] <Polysics> it doesn't show when it is not so i suppose it is the cam
[16:25] <the_alamo> when will google video chat support linux
[16:25] <Polysics> the_alamo, if it's built on flash it already should
[16:25] <Meshach> Hello All.
[16:25] <mooded> the_alamo, ask google ,)
[16:25] <kat> mooded, where do i find that file?
[16:26] <kat> yea im a noob
[16:26] <Tetracomm> and Synaptic says this: "E: /var/cache/apt/archives/libsigc++-1.2-5c2_1.2.7-2_i386.deb: trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/libsigc-1.2.so.5', which is also in package libsigc++" Help?
[16:26] <mooded> kat, in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[16:26] <jerbear> anyone here use nx free edition with intrepid? i'm trying to verify a problem that i'm seeing
[16:26] <tynar> jerbear i have used nx with suse
[16:26] <jerbear> tynar: i think intrepid is key here
[16:27] <KlrSpz> ﻿question, i used to have apache installed on this server, and someone manually removed it, when i try to re-add it, it doesn't install the init.d scripts or /etc/apache2 folder; how do i do a fresh install?
[16:27] <jerbear> tynar: thanks though :)
[16:27] <Polysics> hmm, m-a a-i gspca says "Couldn't create the /usr/src/linux symlink!"
[16:27] <kat> mooded,  yes and yes
[16:27] <Polysics> how odd
[16:27] <pw-toxic> hi, if i press alt + right mouse key, the window context menu does open... i really need to disable this
[16:28] <tynar> sometimes keys don't work, they are 6 7 y u h j n m, how can make them work everytime?
[16:28] <tynar> known issue?
[16:28] <platius> Polysics; doesn't want to work in 8.10
[16:28] <Polysics> platius, actually, if i manage to install the gspca driver it should
[16:28] <pw-toxic> i play world of warcraft..
[16:28] <AkariChan> question: is it possible to enable scim in wine applications?
[16:28] <_Zeus_> tynar: i'd say there's something wrong with your keyboard?
[16:28] <Polysics> unfortunately installing it fails
[16:28] <mooded> kat, strange then .. humm.
[16:28] <pw-toxic> and my windows always disappears due to this hotkey
[16:29] <platius> Polysics; ok
[16:29] <Polysics> platius, actually, if i manage to install the gspca driver it should
[16:29] <Polysics> unfortunately m-a a-i gspca borks
[16:29] <kat> mooded, do you use the same card?
[16:29] <tynar> _Zeus_ definitely, i found same problems in google, it seems it is Dell's mistake
[16:29] <platius> Polysics; synaptic does a build
[16:30] <_Zeus_> tynar: well, then i'd say you are out of luck :(
[16:30] <mooded> kat, i'd check /var/log/Xorg.0.log for any error-messages while starting
[16:30] <SafeWay> hi.. when i go in to compiz config there is nothin to change.. the window i empty.. why?
[16:30] <_Zeus_> tynar: laptop?
[16:30] <_Zeus_> SafeWay: do you have compiz installed?
[16:30] <SafeWay> yes
[16:30] <mooded> kat, nah.. i just 9800gt i think..
[16:30] <tynar> <_Zeus_ : yes, inspiron
[16:30] <abo> hello, anybody quickcam 5000 pro working with skype ?
[16:30] <NoVARaif> ActionParsnip1: I'm back :)  Any other suggestions?
[16:30] <_Zeus_> tynar: i'd hit eBay for a replacement keyboard
[16:31] <pepeluch0> are you need sex?? , pic and videos p0rn  click here :   http://www.fotovacaciones.telefonica.com/catalogo.php?voto=1&codigo=WA0AA3&pagina=1
[16:31] <ActionParsnip1> NoVARaif: so you can ping the linux box, do you have any fancy firewall configs?
[16:31] <kent> is any one using the Thomson TG 787 gateway here? I cant find a manual for it. Need to mount an usb-drive connected to it, and I cant mount it write-able.. :(
[16:31] <SafeWay> _Zeus_ - yes, and restarted
[16:31] <NoVARaif> ActionParsnip1: not that I'm AWARE of ... rofl... where should I start checking?
[16:31] <Polysics> platius, actually, synaptci just installs the package
[16:31] <Polysics> how do i build it?
[16:32] <_Zeus_> SafeWay: huh.  have you tried running ccsm from the command line?
[16:32] <_Zeus_> see if there are any errors?
[16:32] <tj83> !version
[16:32] <ActionParsnip1> NoVARaif: if its not configured you will be ok
[16:32] <kat> mooded, i really wouldn't know what to look for... do you have time to look at my file?
[16:32] <tynar> _Zeus_: this laptop has already finished his life, I want to use it for testing some applications, anyway,
[16:32] <platius> Polysics; ah
[16:32] <_Zeus_> tynar: ah
[16:32] <_Zeus_> tynar: well, ssh is an option
[16:32] <ActionParsnip1> NoVARaif: are you asked for a username and password if you access \\servername\sharename?
[16:32] <mooded> kat, upload it to some pastebin.. ill have a look at it, but cant promise ill find anything ,)
[16:32] <_Zeus_> just leave it as a dumb terminal that you never sit at
[16:32] <bakarat> i need a graphical tool that basically does "tail -f" and allows colouring of keywords
[16:32] <NoVARaif> ActionParsnip1: webmin reports, under network/linux firewall, that 1 IPtables firewall rule is apparently set by a script
 the same there
[16:33] <tynar> _Zeus_: yeah likely will use ssh
[16:33] <Polysics> ok, how do i downgrade my kernel?
[16:33] <_Zeus_> how do i do a tracert in ubuntu?
[16:33] <Polysics> to 2.6.24 (hoary)
[16:33] <|DarkSmoke|> hey guys
[16:33] <ActionParsnip1> NoVARaif: id check what that is, you could restart the samba service
[16:33] <|DarkSmoke|> i did an apt-get source of a prog
[16:34] <_Zeus_> nm, tracepate
[16:34] <NeoThermic> is there any way to search to see if a package is in apt via an online script?
[16:34] <_Zeus_> *h
[16:34] <dmulholland> hey, i copied a load of files from a windows ntfs partition into my linux home directory and when i do ls in the folder from the commmand line, they show with a background behind them where as normal folders made with mkdir dont. is there something different about them and how can i make the windows ones the same as the linux ones?
[16:34] <ikonia> NeoThermic: apt-cache search $package name
[16:34] <|DarkSmoke|> i want to compile and create a deb package, i remember running some script "rules" in the debian/ folder, but i forgot what to do exacly
[16:34] <|DarkSmoke|> anyhelp?
[16:34] <unop> NeoThermic, http://packages.ubuntu.com
[16:34] <NeoThermic> ikonia: I'm not running and can't run apt
[16:34] <NeoThermic> unop: ooh, thanks
[16:34] <mooded> Polysics, learn how to build a current kernel on your os first.. then try downgrading and fighting with gcc / libc / headers / asf dependencies..
[16:34] <ikonia> NeoThermic: look in the repos
[16:34] <kat> mooded, http://pastebin.com/m114eb3ea
[16:35] <NoVARaif> ActionParsnip1: I'm not sure where to start looking to find the rule that's running... any suggestions?
[16:35] <SafeWay> _Zeus_ -
[16:35] <the_newbie> hello, is anyone familiar with the WD mybook world edition, or anyone has it?
[16:36] <ActionParsnip1> |DarkSmoke|: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-92016.html
[16:36] <ikonia> the_newbie: I've used them
[16:36] <Polysics> mooded, can't i simply do it with apt-get?
[16:36] <ikonia> the_newbie: there is a usb and firewire edtion
[16:36] <rien-ne-va-plus> platius: i tried all input settings for tvtime, but i get nothing. i come to think that the cable is dead, ill see if i can check with another computer
[16:36] <ActionParsnip1> NoVARaif: no idea man, sorry. you could try sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart
[16:36] <|neon|> i bee trying for weeks to make my desktop settings stay after i reboot, i.e. theme and how it looks, i can change it but once i reboot changes revert back to default, i am using gnome ubuntu 8.10 and tried session manager withou any luck,   suggestions? thx
[16:37] <NoVARaif> ActionParsnip1: done, restart / reload successful for samba
[16:37] <ikonia> |neon|: your not using a livecd are you ?
[16:37] <the_newbie> ikonia, by any chance, do you know if it is possible to connect it wirelessly to my laptop using a router, but without an internet connection?
[16:37] <ActionParsnip1> NoVARaif: are you asked for auth if you type //servername/sharename in a windows run box?
[16:37] <ikonia> the_newbie: don't see why not
[16:37] <mooded> Polysics, i think not, it wont work without problems i guess.. you _could_ try it, but no guarantee for things working afterwards
[16:37] <Ximilus> hello everyone
[16:37] <ikonia> the_newbie: it should just can an IP and can be accessed via the ip address
[16:37] <NoVARaif> ActionParsnip1: what I got there was "No service is operating at the destination network endpoint on the remote system." .. brb
[16:37] <NeoThermic> and via the cli is there any way to tell what version of ubuntu I run?
[16:38] <NeoThermic> (uname -a isn't overly descriptive)
[16:38] <_Zeus_> NeoThermic: lsb_release -a or cat /etc/issue
[16:38] <ActionParsnip1> NeoThermic: lsb_release -a
[16:38] <SafeWay> hi.. when i go in to compiz config there is nothin to change.. the window i empty.. why?
[16:38] <NeoThermic> ooh
[16:38] <usser> NeoThermic, lsb_release -a
[16:38] <_Zeus_> SafeWay: did you run it from the console like i said?
[16:38] <SafeWay> någon svensk
[16:38] <NeoThermic> merci _Zeus_ and ActionParsnip1
[16:38] <Daejeo> guys, i want to run my own dns server. i have register domain i.e.  abc.com. now i want run dns at ns1.abc.com . what should i tell to my domain provider?
[16:38] <SafeWay> _
[16:38] <ikonia> NeoThermic: the kernel cersion normally gives it away also
[16:38] <mooded> kat, do you have multiple cards ?
[16:38] <Ximilus> hello i want help
[16:38] <SafeWay> _zeus_ - yes and no change
[16:38] <rien-ne-va-plus> anyone: i have a problem connecting to a printer on my ubuntu machine from a windows machine
[16:38] <the_newbie> ikonia, I am not very familiar with this IP thing, I'm still learning... Do you know of a webpage where I can learn more about it? besides google
[16:39] <_Zeus_> SafeWay: no, you're supposed to look at the output
[16:39] <Ximilus> i have local host and i want to remote access to my other computers
[16:39] <kat> mooded, no
[16:39] <mooded> kat, and try to remove Load "dri" from xorg.conf (modules section)
[16:39] <ikonia> the_newbie: no
[16:39] <rien-ne-va-plus> i can access CUPS, but dont know how to connect to the printer
[16:39] <nalys> !trash
[16:39] <_Zeus_> SafeWay: there won't be a change
[16:39] <ikonia> the_newbie: google will return results on ip networking
[16:39] <Polysics> ok, if i give up on getting the webcam working, will the bug get fixed sometime?
[16:39] <Polysics> there is a bug filed already
[16:39] <mooded> kat, also - is there somewhere a "Driver" = vesa thing ?? (since it loads that driver too)
[16:39] <Polysics> is there any hope it realyl gets fixed? :-)
[16:40] <mel> how do i get my sound ta work
[16:40] <Daejeo> guys, i want to run my own dns server. i have register domain i.e.  abc.com. now i want run dns at ns1.abc.com . what should i tell to my domain provider?
[16:40] <dr_willis> I got to wonder why they just dident make a soft link from .Trash to ~/.local/share/Trash
[16:40] <SafeWay> _Zeus_ - When i Type "ccsm" it opens compiz config and its a empty window
[16:40] <shiki9> hello fellow ubuntites
[16:40] <_Zeus_> SafeWay: you're supposed to look at what it says in the terminal
[16:40] <_Zeus_> SafeWay: do you know what a terminal is?
[16:41] <the_newbie> anyone knows how could I set my external hdd (mybook world ed.) to work on a offline wireless network ?
[16:41] <rien-ne-va-plus> does anyone know where i find the firewall under ubuntu?
[16:41] <SafeWay> nothing
[16:41] <SafeWay> _zeus_ - nothing
[16:41] <Guest73983> my ubuntu hangs
[16:41] <lagaffe> qu'elle antivirus sous thunberd
[16:41] <dr_willis> !firewall | rien-ne-va-plus
[16:41] <Daejeo> guys, i want to run my own dns server. i have register domain i.e.  abc.com. now i want run dns at ns1.abc.com . what should i tell to my domain provider? how do i set ns1.abc.com with provider?
[16:41] <ikonia> the_newbie: the wirless network is online, just not connected to the internet
[16:41] <Guest73983> offline wireless network  how ?????
[16:42] <mel> hey i just set up ubuntu 8.04 an i cant get my sound ta wrk
[16:42] <ikonia> the_newbie: you need to contact the support resources for western digital, as this is not an ubuntu issue
[16:42] <Guest73983> read manual of hdd
[16:42] <NoVARaif> ActionParsnip1: I vaguely recall something about windoze boxes using two different ports for SMB connections.  I further recall seeing errors about that in one of the server logs, I think I put a line in my smb.conf to force the server to use only one port
[16:42] <NoVARaif> brb
[16:42] <the_newbie> ikonia, allright
[16:42] <SafeWay> _zeus_ - yes i know what the treminal is
[16:42] <Ximilus> what can we do with the terminal ??
[16:42] <Lavagolemking> I am having "fatal errors" in installing the grub menu. Is anyone good at troubleshooting GRUB-related issues?
[16:42] <the_newbie> Guest73983, I meant without an internet connection
[16:43] <ikonia> Lavagolemking: explain the problem
[16:43] <Lavagolemking> ﻿ikonia: Error 17: Cannot mount selected partition
[16:43] <Ximilus> i will try alone
[16:43] <Ximilus> good bye
[16:43] <Polysics> anyway, it all boils down to: i have no /dev/video0 device
[16:43] <ikonia> Lavagolemking: ok, so your grub config is pointing at the wrong partition, or a partiion that can't be mounted
[16:44] <Polysics> no video devices at a
[16:44] <Polysics> *ll :-)
[16:44] <ikonia> Lavagolemking: tell me about your system, how many disks ?
[16:44] <mel> hey this is what my sound is sayin
[16:44] <Lavagolemking> 1 hard drive. I just purchased it and could send you a link to the summary.
[16:44] <ActionParsnip1> NoVARaif: here's mine dude: http://pastebin.com/f41d2252c
[16:44] <szx0> Does anyone here use Logwatch?
[16:44] <Lavagolemking> (full hardware specs)
[16:44] <ikonia> Lavagolemking: please put the output of "sudo fdisk -l" in a pastebin please
[16:44] <mel> no gstream voulme control plugins found
[16:44] <ActionParsnip1> NoVARaif: may help, mine works with windows clients
[16:44] <CCoolty> http://www.gorepairme.com/url/index.php
[16:45] <Guest73983> halo
[16:45] <SafeWay> ubuntu is a crappy OS, and bad suport.. going back to Windows..
[16:45] <ikonia> SafeWay: stop that please
[16:45] <magcius> SafeWay, what exact
[16:45] <ikonia> SafeWay: your welcome to not use it and use windows if you don't like it
[16:45] <rien-ne-va-plus> i cant figure out why my printer isnt published in the local network
[16:45] <Guest73983> ubuntu can spoooooof   ip address
[16:45] <ikonia> Guest73983: no
[16:45] <magcius> SafeWay, what exactly are your beefs with Ubuntu?
[16:45] <Guest73983> what
[16:45] <szx0> Ubuntu rocks
[16:46] <bazhang> Guest73983, no
[16:46] <Guest73983> ikonia
[16:46] <joshux> Does windows have "support" ?
[16:46] <mez_> how do i see what the name of my network card is? i mean the brand and type
[16:46] <Polysics> well, i find it amusing that talking about videogames is offtopic, while saying stupid things is on topic
[16:46] <Guest73983> windows is for lamers
[16:46] <SafeWay> wow, now you respond..
[16:46] <ikonia> Guest73983: stop that
[16:46] <ActionParsnip1> joshux: for what?
[16:46] <bazhang> Guest73983, please stop
[16:46] <ikonia> Polysics: silly things are not ontopic
[16:46] <ikonia> Polysics: this is ubuntu support only
[16:46] <szx0> Can anyone help me determine what this means? http://pastebin.com/dcf67844 It's a log of access attempts to my box
[16:46] <dr_willis> joshux,  their support aparently is focused on  the idea of 'passing the buck to other companies being the problem' and 'reformat/reinstall'
[16:46] <Lavagolemking> ﻿ikonia: It will be a moment. I have to hook it into my school's network. Wireless isn't working yet.
[16:46] <ActionParsnip1> joshux: you could head to ##windows
[16:46] <ikonia> Lavagolemking: no problem
[16:46] <Guest73983> i have code that can destroy network and runs on ubuntu baby
[16:46] <Shoopuf1> I am trying to install from the CVS but it says "cannot make directory CVS in .: Permission denied"
[16:47] <Polysics> oh LAWDY
[16:47] <joshux> ActionParsnip1, I was asking Safeway :-p
[16:47] <Polysics> the kick is up... and it's good!
[16:47] <panfist> sudo blkid tells me that i have a disk /dev/sda of type mdraid....can I change the type without changing anything else that's on the disk?
[16:47] <joshux> He said ubuntu has bad support
[16:47] <mez_> how do i see what the name of my network card is? i mean the brand and type
[16:47] <SafeWay> joshux - yes, languge?
[16:47] <Polysics> well, ubuntu, being free, has decent support, tbh
[16:48] <otaku2038> mez_: try as root lspci
[16:48] <kemalist> mez_, lspci
[16:48] <SafeWay> *language
[16:48] <Polysics> i actually get more support on my free ubuntu than on my paid windows, but maybe it's just me
[16:48] <ActionParsnip1> Polysics: you have a number you can ring to get answers
[16:48] <alcockell> Point taken, Polysics.. I suppose it's a different mindset.
[16:48] <Guest73983> mez i think u can google that
[16:48] <Guest73983> 2 simple to think
[16:48] <Polysics> then again, things like the v4l bug make me want to set things on fire :-)
[16:49] <alcockell> ... which can even be a bit of a mental switch if you happen to work in professional IT support...
[16:49] <Polysics> ActionParsnip1, ever tried actually calling? :-) i think i solved problems the guy at the call center had, the last time i tried :-)
[16:49] <mon^rch> lol
[16:49] <ActionParsnip1> Polysics: ive never needed it. i have the web
[16:50] <Polysics> at least ubuntu doesn't make you "expect" anything, everything that comes is good, being it free and not asking anything in return save for the occasional small donation
[16:50] <Guest73983> my ubuntu 8.0 hangs
[16:50] <Polysics> which you can even skip, if you like
[16:50] <dmulholland> what's the default icon directory in ubuntu
[16:50] <dmulholland> ?
[16:50] <shiki9> what other  vector graphics apps are there in ubuntu so far i found inkscape which is great
[16:50] <Lavagolemking> ﻿ikonia: http://pastebin.ca/1257035
[16:50] <ikonia> Lavagolemking: ok
[16:51] <ikonia> Lavagolemking: ubuntu is not installed on that disk
[16:51] <ActionParsnip1> dmulholland: /usr/share/pixmaps/
[16:51] <Guest73983> ubuntu ultimate rocks
[16:51] <alcockell> Polysics - however, there are higher customer expectations around Ubuntu now - especially with it being the default install on some laptops..
[16:51] <Lavagolemking> Hmm... it did a format and ditched the former OS.
[16:51] <bazhang> !offtopic
[16:51] <ActionParsnip1> Guest73983: how is it different to LTS version?
[16:51] <bazhang> please take chat to #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:51] <alcockell> Apologies.
[16:51] <ikonia> ActionParsnip1: it's not an ubuntu release
[16:51] <jrib> dmulholland: you can use ~/.icons/
[16:51] <bazhang> ActionParsnip1, he is muted
[16:52] <Lavagolemking> ﻿ikonia: I can also see the installed files on /media/disk.
[16:52] <ikonia> Lavagolemking: the partition types are marked as HPFS/NTFS
[16:53] <ikonia> Lavagolemking: the ubuntu installer wouldn't do that
[16:53] <alcockell> Nah - sounds like XP or Vista..
[16:53] <Palomides> how do I create an image of a disk?
[16:53] <alcockell> Or W2003..
[16:53] <ActionParsnip1> ikonia: didnt think so, there's a mandriva ultimate :)
[16:53] <Lavagolemking> Yes, but gparted is reading a FAT16, NTFS (9.77 GB) and a giant EXT3.
[16:53] <eydaimon> How can I make the sound louder? It's awefully soft, and my headphones don't have a volume control
[16:54] <ikonia> Lavagolemking: fdisk is only showing 2 partitions which is a worry
[16:54] <Polysics> i probably have a different problem - maybe the webcam isn't even supported
[16:54] <Lavagolemking> The installed encountered a "fatal error" in installing GRUB.
[16:54] <bazhang> eydaimon, open terminal and type alsamixer
[16:54] <Polysics> i have no /dev/video0
[16:54] <Polysics> in fact, applications don't crach or report anything, they just say there is no webcam connected
[16:55] <hateball> Palomides♖ I use Clonezilla for cloning tasks. Grab the Livecd and off you go
[16:56] <NoVARaif> ActionParsnip1: Finally remembered the Samba port thing for windows clients.. they use 139 and 445 alternately to connect to shares, and to eliminate superfluous log entries, i put "smb ports = 139" in my smb.conf ... So, I don't that THAT is the firewall issue... still dgging
[16:57] <Lavagolemking> ﻿ikonia: http://www.cse.ohio-state.edu/~swaneybr/s.png
[16:57] <Lavagolemking> It's showing 3 there.
[16:58] <mindrape> df -Th
[16:59] <mooded> Mez, use lspci to see the cards details..
[16:59] <ikonia> Lavagolemking: looks like your disk layout i corrupted there
[16:59] <ikonia> Lavagolemking: I would a.) reboot to make sure the disk was read correctly b.) re-install
[16:59] <abchirk> what is a good recording program for voice?
[16:59] <Lavagolemking> It's a brand new computer, so I'm guessing the disk isn't corrupt.
[17:00] <NoVARaif> ActionParsnip1: odd... I just tried a "sudo ufw status" and was told it's not loaded? rofl
[17:00] <mooded> Lavagolemking, ikonia said the layout might be corrupt not the disk itself.
[17:01] <Lavagolemking> Ah, makes more sense. I did get a broken HD out-of-the-box once though...
[17:01] <ActionParsnip1> NoVARaif: you could use netstat to check the process is listening to the right port and is running
[17:02] <Rioting_pacifist> my screen goes crazy when i resume from a suspend to ram
[17:03] <ActionParsnip1> Rioting_pacifist: welcome to suspend hell
[17:03] <mooded> ^^
[17:03] <bsnider> does anybody know where archive mounter mounts images? what is the path?
[17:03] <frith> what package has php file info?
[17:04] <ActionParsnip1> bsnider: make it mount something, then run mount in terminal. it will say
[17:04] <Rioting_pacifist> its wierd tho because the system works perfectly just both x and cli but the screen is unusable
[17:04] <Lavagolemking> ﻿ikonia: The ext3 file system creation in partition #1 of SCSI1 (0,0,0) failed.
[17:04] <Rioting_pacifist> and the system used to suspend/resume ok (when it worked)
[17:04] <ActionParsnip1> Rioting_pacifist: you could restart x but it kinda defeats the point of suspend
[17:05] <Rioting_pacifist> ActionParsnip1: that doesnt do anything, both the cli and x stay screwed
[17:05] <nalys> hello, I have following the following problem with intrepid: both my /root/.local/share/Trash/files and /home/nalys/.local/share/Trash/files are empty when I open these folders with nautilus. Though Trash isn't empty and when I want to empty it it says "read only file system", so I guess I have to change the rights with sudo chmod but I can't get to these files, I don't understand where they...
[17:05] <nalys> ...are...
[17:05] <icheyne> I can't get Java to work. If I type java -version I get nothing. BUT according to apt-get, I have sun-java6-bin and -jre installed.
[17:05] <ActionParsnip1> Rioting_pacifist: ive never used suspend, i think its worthless and causes a tonne of grief
[17:05] <Rioting_pacifist> i have messed with my statup/shutdown services since it worked fine, but vbesave is still set to 2345
[17:06] <Rioting_pacifist> well my startup is slowed down by a fsck bug nobody seams to care about and i autosuspend when idle
[17:06] <jennifer> hallo
[17:06] <ActionParsnip1> hi jennifer
[17:06] <jennifer> hi
[17:07] <jennifer> Hola!
[17:07] <NoVARaif> ActionParsnip1: I'm gonna bounce my network stack.. back shortly
[17:08] <jennifer> OIé!
[17:08] <yagga> !es
[17:08] <fus10nx> Anyone have an idea why my sound works in Ubuntu but when i use mplayer it says Audio: No Audio ?
[17:08] <jennifer> como??
[17:09] <ActionParsnip1> fus10nx: run it from terminal, you will get intelligent output
[17:09] <fus10nx> thats where I am running it from
[17:09] <ActionParsnip1> fus10nx: can you pastebin the output
[17:09] <ActionParsnip1> !paste
[17:09] <fus10nx> oh
[17:09] <fus10nx> i see
[17:09] <fus10nx> ERROR: Could not open required DirectShow codec wma9dmod.dll.
[17:10] <ldiamond> I need help here, I'm unable to install firefox using apt-get. Also, all versions of Firefox that I installed kept crashing constantly.
[17:11] <szx0> I configured my firewall, wrote the rules out to an iptables.rules file, configured my interfaces file to save/restore the rules on reboot.... but it doesn't work... Every reboot actually wipes out my iptables-rules file to defaults (no rules). What's going on?
[17:11] <icheyne> ldiamond, sudo aptitude firefox-3.0
[17:11] <ldiamond> I installed it from the repo, kept crashing, I installed it from the FF site, kept crashing, I installed the newer version from FF site, crashed again, now I'm unable to install it from the repo again
[17:11] <ActionParsnip1> fus10nx: sudo apt-get install w32codecs
[17:11] <NoVARaif_> ActionParsnip1: I'll be a sum'bitch!  I rebooted the network gear and guess what???? I was prompted for userid/pwd when I attempted to remap a network drive from the XP client to the ubuntu box
[17:11] <Bupsss> hi, i just compiled the gdm with a tiny modification
[17:12] <fus10nx> thanks
[17:12] <Bupsss> did make, and make install
[17:12] <fus10nx> ill give that a shot
[17:12] <ldiamond> icheyne, you mean sudo aptitude install firefox-3.0 ?
[17:12] <ActionParsnip1> NoVARaifnice one bro, probably relates to the DNS badness
[17:12] <Bupsss> but i see no updates when i reboot... what did i do wrong?
[17:12] <icheyne> ldiamond, yes
[17:12] <ldiamond> icheyne, that doesnt work as I stated before
[17:12] <ActionParsnip1> ldiamond: is it all sites it crashes on?
[17:12] <fus10nx> heh
[17:12] <fus10nx> umm
[17:13] <fus10nx> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[17:13] <fus10nx> is only available from another source
[17:13] <fus10nx> E: Package w32codecs has no installation candidate
[17:13] <icheyne> ldiamond, sudo aptitude reinstall firefox-3.0?
[17:13] <fus10nx> any idea what else it may be called?
[17:13] <ldiamond> ActionParsnip1, yes, no matter what site, with no plugin or addon, even in safe mode
[17:13] <bazhang> fus10nx, get from medibuntu
[17:13] <bazhang> !medibuntu
[17:13] <Lavagolemking> I'm going to have to work on this later...
[17:13] <ldiamond> icheyne, that worked, Ill test if it crashes
[17:14] <ldiamond> icheyne, usually takes less than 5 min
[17:14] <mib_z3430d> any idea why my lamp won't run php pages
[17:14] <ActionParsnip1> ldiamond: try: mv ~/.mozilla ¬/.mozilla_old; firefox &
[17:14] <mib_z3430d> it makes me try to download the php file instead
[17:14] <ActionParsnip1> d'oh, thats not right
[17:14] <ActionParsnip1> ldiamond: mv ~/.mozilla ~/.mozilla_old; firefox &
[17:14] <ldiamond> ActionParsnip1, I already erased .mozilla many times in order to fix crashes
[17:14] <fus10nx> wahoo
[17:14] <fus10nx> ok
[17:14] <fus10nx> awesome!
[17:14] <NoVARaif_> ActionParsnip1: all the XP clients drive mappings have returned on my media center pc.. gonna check roomie's Xp machine, then my mac
[17:14] <fus10nx> thanks a lot
[17:14] <ldiamond> ActionParsnip1, didnt help
[17:14] <NoVARaif_> brb
[17:14] <FloodBot2> fus10nx: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:15] <vladuz976> is there a solution to the nvidia driver problem?
[17:15] <ActionParsnip1> ldiamond: hmm any info in the terminal when firefox crashed?
[17:15] <vladuz976> downgrading to 173 fixes that?
[17:16] <ldiamond> ActionParsnip1, Nop, it crashes and nothing is output on the terminal
[17:16] <u007> hi, anyone know how to reset my xfce panel? my notification area does not show nm-applet even thou its activated in the session, please help~~
[17:16] <ldiamond> ActionParsnip1, This thing is driving me crazy!
[17:16] <ActionParsnip1> ldiamond: id also mv ~/.mozilla_old ~/.mozilla
[17:17] <ActionParsnip1> ldiamond: sudo apt-get --purge remove firefox-3.0; sudo apt-get autoremove; sudo apt-get clean; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install firefox-3.0
[17:17] <Jack_Sparrow> ActionParsnip1 IF he was installing manually he could have more /firefox directories
[17:17] <icheyne> ldiamond, have you tried epiphany
[17:18] <icheyne> nice enough browser
[17:18] <nalys> hello, I have the following problem with intrepid: both my /root/.local/share/Trash/files and /home/nalys/.local/share/Trash/files are empty when I open these folders with nautilus. Though Trash (and I can't go to this folder when I run nautilus as root (don't know why)), isn't empty and when I want to empty it it says "read only file system", so I guess I have to change the rights with sudo...
[17:18] <nalys> ...chmod but I can't get to these files, I don't understand where they are...
[17:18] <le000> hi
[17:18] <vladuz976> no one here has this nvidia driver problem after upgrading?
[17:18] <ldiamond> icheyne, no
[17:18] <le000> i cannot see the syslog on the system log menu...
[17:18] <vladuz976> I've seen tons of posts on the forum, but no solution yet. anybody?
[17:18] <ldiamond> ActionParsnip1, I already tried purging, but not all of the above, Ill try them next time FF crashes
[17:18] <ActionParsnip1> nalys: id chown the folder to you just to make sure its got the right owner
[17:19] <mooded> vladuz976, the last one i talked to finally reinstalled 8.04.. since none of the nvidia-drivers worked in 8.10 for him / her / whatever
[17:19] <ActionParsnip1> ldiamond: it basically removes firefox and all its gumf, then cleans your apt-cache so you are forced to download fresh
[17:19] <ActionParsnip1> ldiamond: or you could use opera :D
[17:19] <vladuz976> mooded, so for some people it works, for others it doesn't?
[17:20] <vladuz976> mooded, what does it depend on?
[17:20] <mooded> vladuz976, i guess solving it depends on your knowledge about kernel-compiling asf...
[17:20] <icheyne> is there a workable alternative to sun-java?
[17:20] <icheyne> I can't get it to work
[17:20] <mooded> vladuz976, i have 9800gtx nvidia and it works.. (but i installed 8.10 directly, no update or so)
[17:20] <ldiamond> ActionParsnip1, yea I already downloaded opera, but I kinda like google toolbar in FF, and some other extensions
[17:20] <vladuz976> mooded, i am thinking of doing that too
[17:20] <ldiamond> ActionParsnip1, so Opera wouldnt be as nice (eventho its faster, for now)
[17:20] <vladuz976> really too bad that distro upgrade still doesn't wokr
[17:20] <NoVARaif_> ActionParsnip1: THANK YOU...  I can't believe my network stack partially hiccuped.  Thanks for your help!
[17:21] <vladuz976> after so many years
[17:21] <Jack_Sparrow> ldiamond it can be some of those extensions causing your issues.  Many are not truely stable
[17:21] <nalys> ActionParsnip1: Oh wait, problem seems solved... I had forgotten that I had directly deleted these files from an extern device...so I just unplugged it for the first time since, nd now the files are gone....why is that?
[17:21] <mooded> vladuz976, yup.. but its a stoneage-old prob and really really not trivial to solve..
[17:21] <NoVARaif_> ActionParsnip1: Now, I'm off to finish setting up my ubuntu box as a backup target for mac's time machine
[17:21] <maty> is there a way of checking the password for a user is correct without trying to login as the user?
[17:21] <NoVARaif_> have a great day, y'all
[17:21] <Stargazer> There's a couple items in the Trash that i can't delete. any ideas ?
[17:21] <ldiamond> Jack_Sparrow, I also tried FF with no extension, no plugin, no addon, safemode, still crashes
[17:22] <vladuz976> mooded, I'd install from CD, but no blank cds, lol
[17:22] <jrib> Stargazer: sudo chown -R $USER: ~/.local/share/Trash/
[17:22] <mooded> vladuz976, damn ;))
[17:22] <vladuz976> mooded, usb boot doesn't work for me somehow
[17:22] <vladuz976> mooded, guess I gotta wait til tomorrow and buy some cds
[17:22] <Stargazer> Jrib, i can delete other items, just two folders with some stuff is always there.
[17:22] <mooded> vladuz976, thats prolly the least problematic way ;)
[17:23] <sammi_curr72> i have a wireless question
[17:23] <vladuz976> just wonder if that's gonna make any difference
[17:23] <mooded> !ask | sammi_curr72
[17:24] <sammi_curr72> how do i install a modded wireless driver for the rt2870 from nemesis.. it's in a bz2 format, but when i make install, i get error 2?
[17:24] <Stargazer> Jrib: "Error removing file: Permission denied" on something called phpblog (folder)
[17:24] <mooded> sammi_curr72, first you need to upload a trace of the error-messages to some pastebin, second, make someone look at it.
[17:24] <nalys> Stargazer: read my questions, I had the same problem, I think you maybe deleted these files directly from an external device could that be?
[17:24] <mooded> sammi_curr72, error 2 doesnt say anything at all
[17:25] <Netcowboy> hello , I'm tryn to connect to  a vpn but since I'm using gnome-ppp to connect to my usb modem network manger report I'm offline so I can't connect to vpn any help ?
[17:25] <ActionParsnip1> sammi_curr72: make nistall needs sudo
[17:25] <sammi_curr72> i'll paste in a second.. hold on
[17:25] <nalys> Stargazer: If so, just unplug it.
[17:25] <Stargazer> Nalys, i deleted it from a local dir. nothing external.
[17:26] <nalys> Stargazer: Ah ok, sry then.
[17:26] <vladuz976> mooded, do you have anymore links regarding this topic, maybe you know of some i haven't read yet
[17:26] <DarkKnight> hey i m not able to get the correct screen resolution..though i tried using all the available resolutions.....can anyone help me get the appropriate screen resolution
[17:26] <mooded> vladuz976, nope.. dont have any links.. only some years of linux experience ,) so i only point out common tarpits mostly ,)
[17:27] <sammi_curr72> here comes the message i gety
[17:27] <maty> dont suppose anyone can help me with su: BusyBox binary has insufficient rights to set proper GID for applet!
[17:27] <sammi_curr72> brett@metal-desktop:~/dls/RT2870$ sudo make && make install
[17:27] <sammi_curr72> [sudo] password for brett:
[17:27] <sammi_curr72> make -C tools
[17:27] <sammi_curr72> make[1]: Entering directory `/home/brett/dls/RT2870/tools'
[17:27] <sammi_curr72> gcc -g bin2h.c -o bin2h
[17:27] <sammi_curr72> make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/brett/dls/RT2870/tools'
[17:27] <FloodBot2> sammi_curr72: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:27] <transporter> hello guys
[17:27] <z28> hello all
[17:27] <vladuz976> mooded, so just out of curiousity, with every release you do a fresh install?
[17:27] <transporter> guys i need help
[17:28] <koruptidpryde> anybody know if there has been any progress in the issues with the hda-intel mic volume issues??
[17:28] <z28> wondering if someone knows of a linux distribution that has a web server, webmail server and all managed with a web gui
[17:28] <DarkKnight> hey i m not able to get the correct screen resolution..though i tried using all the available resolutions.....can anyone help me get the appropriate screen resolution
[17:28] <ubuntu_> I have avant and awn installed--how do I use the dock?
[17:28] <Netcowboy> Sorry for repeating  , I'm tryn to connect to  a vpn but since I'm using gnome-ppp to connect to my usb modem network manger report I'm offline so I can't connect to vpn any help ?
[17:28] <koruptidpryde> z28, the server version of ubuntu should have installables for that
[17:28] <mooded> vladuz976, nope.. i compile my kernels on my own if i need it.. and update the rest respectively.. (only 8.10 was a fresh install, since its my first ubuntu.. used debian for ages before)
[17:28] <Jack_Sparrow> vladuz976 Nope, many have a seperate /home so they can upgrade without having a fresh install to deal with.  Many have two linux installs, one stable and one for testing/destroying and playing
[17:28] <koruptidpryde> Netcowboy, one moment
[17:29] <sammi_curr72> sorry about that.. i'm new to this
[17:29] <Azureus> Hello guys..I have a pretty nasty problem here. I have an Windows XP Machine that's running putty on it and an ubuntu machine that's running an ssh server. Let say that i want to connect to a hl server that's restricted by my isp from the windows machine. I know that Half Life is using the following ports: TCP  6003,7002 UDP: 27005, 27010-27011 and 27015. As far as i know SSH does not support udp traffic tunneling but i had saw somewhere (can't remember wher
[17:29] <Netcowboy> koruptidpryde,  ok
[17:29] <z28> thanks koruptodepryde
[17:29] <koruptidpryde> Netcowboy, there is a newer version in a PPA I just need to remember which one, lol
[17:29] <kri> hm where is the volume controll icon placed?
[17:29] <vladuz976> Jack_Sparrow, how is? a separate /home gonna avoid a fresh install
[17:29] <vladuz976> ?
[17:30] <Netcowboy> koruptidpryde,  lol ok for da recoard I spend 24 hours on google fourms for nothing :s
[17:30] <Jack_Sparrow> vladuz976 Let me find a link that explains it
[17:30] <mooded> sammi_curr72, use "pastebin.com" to paste large amount of lines
[17:30] <DarkKnight> hey i m not able to get the correct screen resolution..though i tried using all the available resolutions.....can anyone help me get the appropriate screen resolution
[17:30] <mooded> sammi_curr72, and paste the url to it afterwards in here..
[17:30] <koruptidpryde> Netcowboy, the newest network-manager from the network-manager PPA got it working for me
[17:30] <koruptidpryde> Netcowboy, deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/network-manager/ubuntu intrepid main
[17:31] <kri> ive made a link to alsamixer runned in terminal mode (alsamixer -D hw:0) and i want the deafult volume controll icon for it)... where is that icon located?
[17:31] <koruptidpryde> Netcowboy, https://launchpad.net/~network-manager/+archive
[17:31] <Jack_Sparrow> vladuz976 V
[17:31] <olga> hey guys i need some help i just got connected to the net today after installing ubuntu
[17:31] <Jack_Sparrow> vladuz976  http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/separatehome
[17:31] <vladuz976> Jack_Sparrow, i think i understand your point, put /home on a separate partition, so you don't have to worry about it when upgrading?
[17:31] <olga> i am unable to play any mp3 files
[17:31] <kri> ive also made a alias for it so it will be runed directly when type alsamixer in terminal or run but i want the icon to
[17:31] <Jack_Sparrow> vladuz976 yes
[17:31] <sammi_curr72> http://paste.ubuntu.com/72441/
[17:31] <koruptidpryde> olga, you need to add several packages from mediabuntu
[17:31] <olga> i tried downloading the packages that would be necessary but still couldn't play
[17:31] <koruptidpryde> !mediabuntu
[17:32] <koruptidpryde> damn you
[17:32] <Netcowboy> koruptidpryde,  I did this lol , but I doesn't work for me , tell me how you did it
[17:32] <DarkKnight> hey i m not able to get the correct screen resolution..though i tried using all the available resolutions.....can anyone help me get the appropriate screen resolution
[17:32] <DarkKnight> hey i m not able to get the correct screen resolution..though i tried using all the available resolutions.....can anyone help me get the appropriate screen resolution
[17:32] <olga> what should i do????
[17:32] <vladuz976> Jack_Sparrow, but i upgraded to 8.10 from 8.04 and run into nvidia problems that people with a fresh install don't have.
[17:32] <Jack_Sparrow> DarkKnight Pleas hole down the repeats
[17:32] <mooded> DarkKnight, dont repeat questions too often ,)
[17:32] <Lucifer__> hello question, How do i share files on my Ubuntu PC, whit my WinVista PC.    I know it uses samba but how do i configure it ?
[17:32] <Azureus> Hello guys..I have a pretty nasty problem here. I have an Windows XP Machine that's running putty on it and an ubuntu machine that's running an ssh server. Let say that i want to connect to a hl server that's restricted by my isp from the windows machine. I know that Half Life is using the following ports: TCP  6003,7002 UDP: 27005, 27010-27011 and 27015. As far as i know SSH does not support udp traffic tunneling but i had saw somewhere (can't remember wher
[17:32] <koruptidpryde> olga, medibuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu
[17:32] <vladuz976> Jack_Sparrow, so i am saying, another partition is not going to help me in this case
[17:32] <icheyne> Lucifer_, !samba
[17:32] <mooded> DarkKnight, you could manually insert the possible resolution configs into /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[17:33] <vladuz976> Jack_Sparrow, what would help is a rolling release
[17:33] <olga> how do i play mp3 files guys plz help!!!
[17:33] <Jack_Sparrow> vladuz976 it would not help with that, but it will help with a variety of other issues
[17:33] <vladuz976> instead of these distroupgrades
[17:33] <olga> its driving me crzy
[17:33] <ackbahr> Hi there! I mseed up my MBR BUT I still have (can see it from LiveCD) the /boot/grub/ folder... How do I restore this from live CD?
[17:33] <Jack_Sparrow> !mp3
[17:33] <soundray> Lucifer__: right click a folder and select Sharing options
[17:33] <xcerca> anybody installed ubuntu on a psp ?
[17:33] <ackbahr> Messed up, I mean....
[17:33] <koruptidpryde> Netcowboy, you add the source to the bottom of your /etc/apt/sources.list, then refresh your package cache and it *should* give you a newer package
[17:33] <vladuz976> Jack_Sparrow, yes, but i backup my /home anyways, so i always have it handy if anything happens
[17:33] <mooded> !help
[17:33] <DarkKnight> mooded; but i m unable to know which fits best..
[17:33] <twocats1fish> I must download the entire 700 meg ISO just to get a "live CD"? I just need a CD bootable GUI to save some data from the HDD to a USB memory. Tips?
[17:33] <Lucifer__> yeah ok soundray but windows won't see the files
[17:34] <mooded> DarkKnight, which did you run on windows then ? ( i just assume you used windows before )
[17:34] <magnetro1> twocats1fish→ you downloaded the right CD
[17:34] <soundray> Lucifer__: can you see the share, though?
[17:34] <xcerca> twocats1fish , i'd go with the whole live cd , do you have a slow connection or somthing ?
[17:35] <Netcowboy> koruptidpryde,  I know this I did it and have been upadating , i tried it again and I still cant connect cause I can't click one my vpn name cause it like I'm not connnected to any network
[17:35] <sammi_curr72> did anyone get a chance to look at my paste yet?
[17:35] <koruptidpryde> mooded: what's this "windows" of which you speak? I do see this beautiful "vista" when looking through the double paned glass attached to my wall.
[17:35] <Lucifer__> soundray nope
[17:35] <twocats1fish> No, I don't have a slow connection, but I don't like waiting.
[17:35] <koruptidpryde> Netcowboy, microsoft vpn?
[17:35] <DarkKnight> mooded; i used 640 x 480.....but on ubuntu...this resoution is very different
[17:35] <soundray> Lucifer__: which version of Ubuntu do you have?
[17:35] <Lucifer__> soundray latest 8.10
[17:35] <Netcowboy> koruptidpryde,  pptp.relakks.com I'm tryn to connect to this
[17:36] <magnetro1> twocats1fish→ the ubuntu CDs will download as fast as your connection, especially if you get it via bittorrent
[17:36] <soundray> Lucifer__: have you looked at the help?
[17:36] <soundray> !samba > Lucifer__
[17:36] <fus10nx> if I setup a cron job can I just schedule it to run 1 time only?
[17:36] <koruptidpryde> Netcowboy, is that a microsoft pptp?.... if so you have ti enable MPPE with 128-bit and stateful encryption
[17:36] <Shoopuf> How do I get PHPMyAdmin onto my website, I'm using Apache and Hardy LTS... Website works but need PHPMyAdmin.. i only have command line access, no GUI
[17:36] <Lucifer__> soundray im gonna read it now
[17:36] <mooded> DarkKnight, that sounds pretty awkward.. what do you mean with "it is very different" ?
[17:36] <fus10nx> I am trying to launch the same program on 2 seperate machines at the same time so I figured making a script to launch the program and it's switches would be fine and then I can just setup cron to run them both since each will be ntp time sync'd
[17:36] <fus10nx> just wanted to make sure i could do a cron to run only 1 time
[17:37] <TheGreatGoatBahh> Does anyone know if ShipIt is actually shipping the CDs yet ?
[17:37] <DarkKnight> mooded; well it seems to be smaller....in ubuntu
[17:37] <soundray> Lucifer__: did you have to install samba when you enabled sharing?
[17:37] <ActionParsnip1> fus10nx: sounds fine
[17:38] <koruptidpryde> Shoopuf, phpmyadmin needs to go into the hosted directory.... from there you'll need to edit the config file for phpmyadmin
[17:38] <Netcowboy> koruptidpryde, I'm brb I'll come to ask later
[17:38] <sammi_curr72> mooded: can you take a look at that paste file?
[17:38] <YmS> soundray Lucifer here I'm gonna reboot Ubuntu moment please
[17:39] <perlsyntax_> How do i install the emacs 23 on ubuntu?
[17:39] <soundray> YmS: always a good idea after installing a service
[17:39] <mooded> DarkKnight, so if everything looks smaller this can mean 1) you currently use a higher res than 640x480 2) you use another, smaller, monitor ? ;) 3) somehow the screen doesnt fill all parts of your monitor ?
[17:39] <Azureus> Hello guys..I have a pretty nasty problem here. I have an Windows XP Machine that's running putty on it and an ubuntu machine that's running an ssh server. Let say that i want to connect to a hl server that's restricted by my isp from the windows machine. I know that Half Life is using the following ports: TCP  6003,7002 UDP: 27005, 27010-27011 and 27015. As far as i know SSH does not support udp traffic tunneling but i had saw somewhere (can't remember wher
[17:39] <mooded> sammi_curr72, whats the url ?
[17:39] <sammi_curr72> http://paste.ubuntu.com/72441/
[17:39] <perlsyntax_> anyone ha emacs 23 installed?
[17:40] <olga> guys it is asking for a specific codec when i am trying to play the mp3 file when i try to download it downloads the whole package but fails to download some specific codecs
[17:40] <ActionParsnip1> !codecs | olga
[17:40] <Azureus> Hello guys..I have a pretty nasty problem here. I have an Windows XP Machine that's running putty on it and an ubuntu machine that's running an ssh server. Let say that i want to connect to a hl server that's restricted by my isp from the windows machine. I know that Half Life is using the following ports: TCP  6003,7002 UDP: 27005, 27010-27011 and 27015. As far as i know SSH does not support udp traffic tunneling but i had saw somewhere (can't remember wher
[17:40] <jetsaredim> is there some sort of issue with evolution where it keeps going into offline mode?
[17:40] <DarkKnight> mooded;now currently i put 800X600....but the icon sizes are large...how do i reduce them
[17:40] <tolebass> .
[17:41] <ActionParsnip1> Azureus: so your isp is stopping yu connecting to the server?
[17:41] <Azureus> yes
[17:41] <ActionParsnip1> Azureus: you got a router?
[17:42] <Azureus> yep
[17:42] <ActionParsnip1> Azureus: you forwarding the ports to the server machine
[17:42] <mooded> DarkKnight, umm sorry no idea..
[17:42] <Azureus> ActionParsnip1: yes
[17:43] <mooded> DarkKnight, somewhere in the system->settings options i guess
[17:43] <ActionParsnip1> Azureus: just checking
[17:43] <Azureus> ActionParsnip1: but the thing is that ssh can't tunnel udp connections
[17:44] <ActionParsnip1> Azureus: http://martybugs.net/smoothwall/puttyvnc.cgi may help, its for vnc but you can use the tunnel for anything
[17:44] <Azureus> ActionParsnip1: i'll take a look..thank you
[17:44] <mark___> I want to send a file to a Mac using pal.  What do I need?
[17:44] <Sinani201> Hi, everyone!
[17:44] <mooded> sammi_curr72, since there seem to be no missing files i would guess you try to compile against the wrong version of some modules..
[17:44] <olga> guys unable to play any youtube videos
[17:45] <mooded> sammi_curr72, details could prolly be found on the page of the module creator
[17:45] <olga> saying outdated flash player or javascript not enabled
[17:45] <Stalker72> How can I remove Sun Java 6 Runtime? It says "Cannot remove 'sun-java6-bin'. When I type "apt-cache rdepends sun-java6-bin" in Terminal, it comes up with "sun-java6-jre", "|sun-java6-jre" and "sun-java6-jdk". Help appreciated! :-)
[17:45] <sammi_curr72> mooded: great (groan) so the next thing to do would to be to figure which module i need?
[17:45] <ackbahr> See you all!
[17:45] <olga> HELP
[17:45] <mark___> Are you living under a repressive regime, olga?
[17:46] <olga> oh u won't beleive it
[17:46] <sammi_curr72> mooded: thanks for the help
[17:46] <olga> im very new to this
[17:46] <mark___> If you are say nothing just in case the secret police are monitoring this chatroom
[17:46] <mooded> sammi_curr72, nope, the next thing i would try is looking for the correct sources for your current setup :)
[17:46] <Stalker72> How can I remove Sun Java 6 Runtime? It says "Cannot remove 'sun-java6-bin'. When I type "apt-cache rdepends sun-java6-bin" in Terminal, it comes up with "sun-java6-jre", "|sun-java6-jre" and "sun-java6-jdk". Help appreciated! :-)
[17:46] <ActionParsnip1> olga: have you installed flash?
[17:47] <olga> pls help guys
[17:47] <mooded> sammi_curr72, and btw.. dont do make as root .. only make install should be done as root if necessary.
[17:47] <mark___> That would help
[17:47] <olga> unable to play youtube videos
[17:47] <sammi_curr72> mooded: the problem i'm running into is i have the rt2870 wireless driver, but it doesn't support monitor mode.  this modded one supports it
[17:47] <mark___> Install flashplugin-nonfree
[17:47] <sammi_curr72> mooded: will do
[17:47] <olga> i tried downloading flash did not work
[17:47] <mark___> From the repositories
[17:47] <olga> still the stupid error msg
[17:48] <mark___> Olga. Open synaptic
[17:48] <Trackilizer> exit
[17:48] <olga> k
[17:48] <Av1> how do i make webcam to work in ubuntu
[17:48] <oxyph> olga: I'm assuming this is using Firefox?
[17:48] <Sinani201> Does anyone here know why FoF wont open?
[17:48] <mark___> Now type flash into Search
[17:48] <olga> ya
[17:48] <sigmab3ta> hey guys riddle me this.
[17:48] <mark___> Look for flashplugin
[17:48] <mooded> sammi_curr72, soso .. sniffing ,) if you wont find a driver-version compatible with your sys you will have to get your sys compatible with the driver.. meaning recompiling your own kernel probably asf..
[17:48] <rdw200169_> !question
[17:48] <sigmab3ta> say i want to have a terminal open with a constantly updating readout of dmesg
[17:48] <sigmab3ta> how would i do that
[17:49] <oxyph> olga: type about:plugins in the URL bar for Firefox and tell me the version of flash you are running
[17:49] <Stalker72> How can I remove Sun Java 6 Runtime? It says "Cannot remove 'sun-java6-bin'. When I type "apt-cache rdepends sun-java6-bin" in Terminal, it comes up with "sun-java6-jre", "|sun-java6-jre" and "sun-java6-jdk". Help appreciated! :-)
[17:49] <rdw200169_> sigmab3ta: easy, tail -f /var/log/syslog
[17:49] <Av1> can anyone tell me how to install my webcam in ubuntu
[17:49] <olga> k gimme a sec
[17:49] <rdw200169_> sigmab3ta: if you want it to stop, ^C
[17:49] <sigmab3ta> rdw200169_: a thousand internets to you, my good man
[17:50] <rdw200169_> sigmab3ta: you tried it already?
[17:50] <sinan2> how can i get the uid of the logged in user?
[17:50] <sigmab3ta> rdw200169_:  yes.
[17:50] <rdw200169_> sigmab3ta: sweet
[17:50] <mooded> sinan2, type "id"
[17:51] <lostinside> Sorry koruptidpryde  I had to do somthing , I update it , then I goto connection manger and add a new vpn but I can't connect cause connection manger assume that there's no internet connection cuase I'm using gnome-ppp
[17:51] <sinan2> mooded: thanks !
[17:51] <transporter> k i typed plugins
[17:51] <sigmab3ta> how would i make it do an infinite number of lines
[17:51] <rdw200169_> sigmab3ta: that will do it
[17:51] <mooded> sinan2, np.
[17:52] <sigmab3ta> well by default tail only does 10 lines
[17:52] <rdw200169_> sigmab3ta: the -f
[17:52] <rdw200169_> sigmab3ta: check the man page on what -f does ;)
[17:52] <transporter> OXYPH i typed plugins in
[17:52] <transporter> now what m i searching for????
[17:52] <ActionParsnip1> sinan2: do you have 3d drivers installed?
[17:52] <sigmab3ta> yaeh it says it appends data... but i only see 10 lines and i'm fairly sure the log is longer than that
[17:53] <koruptidpryde> lostinside, PPTP is not a connection on its own... you have to have a primary connection first
[17:53] <oxyph> transporter: scroll all the way down to the bottom of the page, and try and find the version of Shockwave Flash
[17:53] <rdw200169_> sigmab3ta: it's still running, when syslog adds something, it appends to stdout, the terminal
[17:53] <manzur> hello
[17:53] <manzur> how are you people
[17:53] <manzur> ?
[17:53] <transporter> see it is showing that i already downloaded the correct flash player java is enabled but still no youtube
[17:53] <rdw200169_> sigmab3ta: unless you specify somewhere else, but that's kinda pointless b/c syslog is already a file...
[17:53] <lostinside> koruptidpryde,  I'm connecting now using gnome-ppp :/
[17:53] <mark___> We're still alive
[17:53] <manzur> hello mark
[17:53] <ActionParsnip1> Stalker72: sudo apt-get --purge remove sun-java*
[17:53] <rdw200169_> sigmab3ta: well you could pipe it to a unix pipe over a network, but that's complicated
[17:53] <koruptidpryde> lostinside, PPP != PPTP
[17:54] <ElFede> hello
[17:54] <NekroJakub> Okay, I'm on a LiveCD now, about to install Ubuntu again after a critical situation... Anyway, I have some unallocated space for use, but when I choose the Guided - Use longest unallocated space option in the installer it shows Ubuntu taking all of the HDD after the operation, and I don't want to take any risks... So, does it just show it like that but in reality it'll just use the free space? I really, really would like to, you know, keep my data i
[17:54] <Guest25484> yo
[17:54] <transporter> stop it with the jokes now tell me what????
[17:54] <sigmab3ta> rdw200169_: are you sure /var/syslog is the right file? im getting a completely different output from dmesg and tail
[17:54] <Stalker72> ActionParsnipl: Ok, thanks..
[17:54] <manzur> hello ElFede
[17:54] <transporter> comon Mark
[17:54] <lostinside> koruptidpryde,  I know that
[17:54] <rdw200169_> sigmab3ta: whoops, it's /var/log/syslog
[17:54] <Guest25484> i need help
[17:54] <ElFede> i'm trying to install Red Star on my computer
[17:54] <transporter> now what m i supposed to do???
[17:54] <transporter> still no youtube
[17:54] <manzur> what is red star
[17:54] <manzur> ?
[17:54] <rdw200169_> sigmab3ta: you can do /var/log/messages too
[17:54] <sigmab3ta> no that's what you put before
[17:55] <ElFede> it's a linux distro
[17:55] <koruptidpryde> lostinside, try adding your PPP to network manager.... I believe it supports PPP now
[17:55] <ElFede> cuban linux
[17:55] <lostinside> koruptidpryde, I'm connecting to internet using dailup usb modem , so I can't connect it with connection manger that's why I'm using gnomeppp
[17:55] <ElFede> anyway, i'm having problems with DCOPserver
[17:55] <YmS> soundray: i just rebooted shared a folder, but how do i find it in Windows Vista
[17:55] <sigmab3ta> rdw200169_: i think it's /var/log/messages
[17:55] <ElFede> i'm from the Live CD now
[17:56] <koruptidpryde> lostinside, hmm.... okay, give me a moment to think this through
[17:56] <ActionParsnip1> transporter: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install flashplayer-nonfree nspluginwrapper; nspluginwrapper -i /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so
[17:56] <soundray> YmS: don't know about Vista, sorry
[17:56] <ActionParsnip1> transporter: that'll sort you
[17:56] <lostinside> koruptidpryde,  ok :)
[17:56] <transporter> mark r u there???????
[17:56] <manzur> i want to ask you people something
[17:56] <ElFede> but when I boot from the HD installation, it says that DCOPserver is not active
[17:56] <manzur> do you know
[17:56] <Nikyo> Hi I have a question about Firestarter on Ubunto 8.10 Ibex. For some reason when I try to connect from another computer to ubuntu via VNC firestarter block the connection of the ubuntu computers name, but not the i.p. address of the ubuntu computer. Even if I add the i.p. and name of the other connecting computer in the firestarter policy.
[17:56] <rdw200169_> sigmab3ta: forgive me, i find the syslog to be much more useful than messages, you must be debugging a driver issue or something
[17:56] <manzur> why galaxium messenger
[17:56] <manzur> is like dead
[17:56] <koruptidpryde> lostinside, what error message (if any) does it give you?
[17:56] <manzur> this project is like dead
[17:56] <sigmab3ta> rdw200169_: no, nothing of the sort, im just curious
[17:56] <transporter> what should i do?????
[17:56] <sigmab3ta> rdw200169_:  the day i stop learning is the day i die
[17:57] <transporter> i cannot see youtube videos
[17:57] <rdw200169_> sigmab3ta: well, it's one of my to 10 favorite commands, tail -f
[17:57] <YmS> soundray maybe you can tell if ubuntu uses a "workgroup" ?
[17:57] <rdw200169_> sigmab3ta: mostly b/c it works over ssh
[17:57] <lostinside> koruptidpryde,  no error on connection manger cause I can't click on it :/
[17:57] <ActionParsnip1> transporter: run that command I gave you in terminal
[17:57] <soundray> YmS: can you open a terminal and run 'smbclient -L localhost'. Your share should be listed. Hit Return when asked for a password
[17:57] <ActionParsnip1> transporter: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install flashplayer-nonfree nspluginwrapper; nspluginwrapper -i /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so
[17:57] <transporter> tell me the command one more time
[17:57] <rdw200169_> Nikyo: you should get messages in the syslog of dropped traffic
[17:57] <lostinside> I mean I can't click on the vpn connection I create
[17:57] <YmS> soundray im gonna try it
[17:57] <ActionParsnip1> transporter: then close all firefoxes
[17:58] <benjamin> hi
[17:58] <benjamin> I need some help...
[17:58] <ActionParsnip1> !ask | benjamin
[17:58] <koruptidpryde> lostinside... if you left click on connection manager and go to the subheading "vpn" it doesn't list the vpn you added?
[17:58] <rdw200169_> Nikyo: try this: cat /var/log/syslog | grep IP_ADDRESS_OF_CONNECTING_COMPUTER
[17:58] <sigmab3ta> rdw200169_: for the record it was kern.log i was looking for =)
[17:58] <ActionParsnip1> transporter: when you fire it up you'll have flash
[17:58] <rdw200169_> sigmab3ta: see, you're already outpacing the teacher, good ;)
[17:59] <lostinside> koruptidpryde,  It's listed but not available
[17:59] <manzur> hello!
[17:59] <koruptidpryde> lostinside, hmm
[17:59] <benjamin> I can;t get proftpd to work..... I have set it up... etc.. it is active... I try and log into it from localhost and everytime I get login incorrect
[17:59] <benjamin> any ideas?
[17:59] <koruptidpryde> lostinside, is the dial-up USB modem connection to a wired or cell network?
[17:59] <rdw200169_> benjamin: proftpd is pretty complicated, have you considered vsftpd?
[18:00] <lostinside> Ev-do koruptidpryde
[18:00] <benjamin> nope
[18:00] <benjamin> :)
[18:00] <ElFede> i cannot start KDE when I boot from the HD installation, DCOPserver is missing
[18:00] <koruptidpryde> lostinside, EVDO should be supported under the "Mobile Broadband" section of NetMan
[18:00] <transporter> ok gimme just a min k action parsnip1
[18:00] <benjamin> is it better?
[18:00] <lostinside> ok wait lemme check
[18:01] <ActionParsnip1> transporter: np man, tab complete my name dude
[18:01] <sigmab3ta> next question: in dmesg, what is the meaning of those numbers on the left? i can surmise they're some method of keeping time, but it's incomprehensible to me
[18:01] <YmS> soundray: how do change the workgroup ?
[18:01] <rdw200169_> sigmab3ta: it's like the unix time in complicated form
[18:01] <rdw200169_> sigmab3ta: zulu time on crack
[18:01] <rdw200169_> sigmab3ta: down to the millisecond i believe
[18:02] <ElFede> what is DCOPserver?
[18:02] <benjamin> I am trying vsftp
[18:02] <sigmab3ta> i see
[18:02] <Nikyo> rdw200169_: I know it is dropping the connection when I use the ubuntu computers name. It's weird becasue I have allowed that computer to connect to the ubuntu computer using the policy in firestarter. So it can be a port that firestarter is blocking, because any port that is being requested should be allow per poilcy. Connecting to the i.p. address accoss the LAN to ubuntu comptuer is fine, just not requesting a name. If I disable fiestarte
[18:02] <Nikyo> r, I can connected using the ubuntu computer name.
[18:02] <koruptidpryde> lostinside, I have to admit to not being a guru.... so I'm sort of bouncing ideas in hopes that we reach a fix for you.. the "two heads are better than one" theory, lol
[18:02] <rdw200169_> sigmab3ta: syslog puts those in a more useful form for you ;)
[18:03] <mark___> So. Linux to Mac file transfer
[18:03] <ActionParsnip1> mark___: id use samba
[18:03] <koruptidpryde> mark___, samba will == win
[18:03] <YmS> Stephan nee
[18:03] <rdw200169_> Nikyo: unless there's a NAT Firewall getting in the way
[18:03] <Nikyo> rdw200169_: sorry I was typing to fast, forgive SP
[18:03] <lostinside> koruptidpryde,  sure lol
[18:03] <rdw200169_> Nikyo: are you doing this through a NAT Router?
[18:03] <koruptidpryde> mark___, you can also share via NFS.... will be a little harder to do tho
[18:03] <mark___> What about my friend's ignorance of his computer's name?
[18:04] <mark___> How do I cure that?
[18:04] <koruptidpryde> mark___,  hammer?
[18:04] <ActionParsnip1> mark___: get him to find it out
[18:04] <mark___> He doesn't know how. It's a Mac
[18:04] <tolstiy> anybody uses wm-based phones?
[18:04] <sigmab3ta> rdw200169_: well tailing the kern.log is making it eradable too
[18:04] <koruptidpryde> mark___, don't hate on the mac.... one sec and I'll see what I can do
[18:04] <Lucifer_> tolstiy yes
[18:05] <Lucifer_> !ask
[18:05] <sigmab3ta> i mostly just wanted to see if i was right about whether or not it was timekeeping
[18:05] <koruptidpryde> mark___, is he on the same physical network at the moment?
[18:05] <mark___> No
[18:05] <transporter> k actionparnship1
[18:05] <mark___> He's offline
[18:05] <transporter> awwww
[18:05] <ActionParsnip1> transporter: better?
[18:05] <koruptidpryde> mark___, okay.... so how were you planning to get to the shared files?
[18:05] <soundray> YmS: by editing /etc/samba/smb.conf -- see https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/configuring-samba.html
[18:05] <transporter> k i typed in the command that he gave me
[18:05] <mark___> I was planning to send him one
[18:05] <transporter> gave me a bunch of stuff
[18:05] <tolstiy> i can't get access to my phonebook and storage card
[18:06] <transporter> hmmm
[18:06] <bigtimenoob> Hey guys I have a question, I deleted wine files doing sudo nautilus , and now when I do sudo apt-get purge wine, then sudo apt-get install wine, it just shows the same wine file that has them all deleted
[18:06] <lostinside> koruptidpryde,  didn't found that but I got into another thing, I install Kvpnc I got some error messages
[18:06] <bigtimenoob> any ideas?
[18:06] <koruptidpryde> mark___, that I understand.... but are you trying to do so over a network or the internet?
[18:06] <YmS> soundray: I love you :)
[18:06] <ActionParsnip1> transporter: install all it says and the wrapper will manage flash for you
[18:06] <mark___> The internet
[18:06] <lostinside> koruptidpryde,  debug: [pppd] sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 ]
[18:06] <lostinside> debug: [pppd] LCP: timeout sending Config-Requests
[18:06] <Nikyo> rdw200169_: Nope.. this is going across the LAN. On another computer on the lan, I can add that to firestarter policy and then connect thru the local LAN like say my ubuntu computer is 192..168.1.50, If put that into vnc, no problem. Now if I put in the ubuntu name from that same computer on the lan and put in the Ubuntu computer name say "happyUbuntu" then it drops. Maybe I should talk to the firestarter DEV team?
[18:06] <transporter> no its says command not found
[18:07] <koruptidpryde> lostinside, be right with you
[18:07] <Azureus> How can i add new user accounts in openssh?
[18:07] <ActionParsnip1> transporter: at what point?
[18:07] <soundray> YmS: okay, let's plan our wedding
[18:07] <lostinside> :)
[18:07] <ActionParsnip1> Azureus: you dont, the local accounts are used
[18:07] <rdw200169_> Nikyo: did you add the host hames to /etc/hosts? so firestarter can translate the hostname to ip address?
[18:07] <YmS> lol
[18:07] <ActionParsnip1> transporter: can you pastebin me the who text?
[18:08] <koruptidpryde> mark___, then a "local" exchange method won't help you unless you guys set up a vpn.... I would recommend using a direct file transfer using pidgin.... the mac client I believe is "Adium"
[18:08] <transporter> it gives me a bunch of stuff says something multiverse and says at the end something like this
[18:08] <mark___> Pidgin fts are damned slow :(
[18:08] <transporter> im trying
[18:08] <ActionParsnip1> !paste | transporter
[18:08] <AzizLight> hi everybody
[18:08] <ActionParsnip1> mark___: fts?
[18:09] <transporter> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[18:09] <transporter> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[18:09] <transporter> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[18:09] <transporter> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[18:09] <transporter> bash: nspluginwrapper: command not found
[18:09] <FloodBot3> transporter: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:09] <mark___> file transfers
[18:09] <rdw200169_> Nikyo: in order to use hostnames in place of ip's, you HAVE to either have a DNS server that can translate that hostname (that firestarter can reach) or, you have to have an entry in /etc/hosts
[18:09] <illissius`> hi
[18:09] <ActionParsnip1> transporter: use pastebin!
[18:09] <transporter> there it is man
[18:09] <illissius`> problem: my VTs are sometimes (e.g. now) completely blank
[18:09] <benjamin> great thanks :)
[18:09] <AzizLight> I know there is a shortcut to use the argument used with the previous command in a terminal but what is that shortcut please?
[18:09] <koruptidpryde> mark___, okay.... well then you need to find a direct connection method that is linux/mac.... let  me attempt to do the work for you by google. :-P
[18:09] <UnknownUser56> My ubuntu 8.10 iso finished downloading,what problems do I have to face during install ?
[18:09] <benjamin> it is much easier
[18:09] <rdw200169_> Nikyo: otherwise, firestarter has no idea what to use for ip address, b/c hostnames don't matter to firestarter
[18:09] <ActionParsnip1> transporter: do you have synaptic running or anything like that
[18:09] <transporter> ya
[18:09] <Azureus> ActionParsnip1: well...if i want to connect to my ssh server using openssh client for windows i do not get to chose the user..instead i get to write the password for a user that does not exist on the ssh server's machine
[18:09] <UnknownUser56> any experience for installing it,do tell
[18:09] <rdw200169_> Nikyo: or iptables, for that matter
[18:09] <mark___> I was going to use gFTP
[18:09] <illissius`> (I ctrl-alt-F* from X to something else, and get a black screen. ctrl-alt-F7 back to X works fine.)
[18:09] <ActionParsnip1> transporter: thats why, close it when its appropriate
[18:10] <transporter> close it now
[18:10] <transporter> and then type in the command
[18:10] <LongbowSir> Greetings I have a question about the possibility of reverting from Ubuntu 8.10 back to 8.4  ???
[18:10] <ActionParsnip1> Azureus: how do you connect to the ssh server?
[18:10] <ikonia> LongbowSir: not really
[18:10] <rdw200169_> LongbowSir: good luck ...
[18:10] <LongbowSir> darn !
[18:10] <ActionParsnip1> transporter: yep, you can only have 1 app connected to the packages
[18:10] <UnknownUser56> why longbowsir ? Anything particlar
[18:10] <Azureus> ActionParsnip1: ssh -w0:0 serveraddress
[18:10] <transporter> oh ok
[18:10] <koruptidpryde> mark___, if he is connecting to you then you need to install an FTP daemon on your system and forward the FTP port on your router to your machine
[18:10] <ActionParsnip1> !downgrade | LongbowSir
[18:11] <transporter> can u gimme the command one more time plz :)
[18:11] <LongbowSir> all My video quit since the change to 8.10
[18:11] <ActionParsnip1> Azureus: try ssh username@server
[18:11] <koruptidpryde> lostinside, okay.... I'm drawing a blank... my PPP knowledge sucks
[18:11] <koruptidpryde> lostinside, what wireless provider are you using?
[18:11] <lostinside> koruptidpryde,  Sudani
[18:11] <soundray> illissius`: the default text mode seems to be incompatible with your video setup. Try setting vga=0x317 or similar as a kernel boot option
[18:11] <soundray> !bootoption | illissius`
[18:11] <soundray> !bootoptions | illissius`
[18:11] <ActionParsnip1> transporter: better?
[18:11] <Azureus> ActionParsnip1:but i need the -w0:0 parameter..i'm gonna try ssh -w0:0 username@server
[18:12] <koruptidpryde> lostinside, ouch.... okay, let me see...
[18:12] <ActionParsnip1> Azureus: sounds good
[18:12] <lostinside> koruptidpryde,  it's not listed
[18:12] <illissius`> soundray: it's inconsistent though... after some boots, the VTs work fine, at other times they don't (like now)
[18:12] <illissius`> i have no clue what makes the difference
[18:12] <Nikyo> rdw200169_: Ah.. that that's why.. I'll work on what you said.. I can understand now what is going on, Thank You so much for your help!
[18:12] <Azureus> ActionParsnip1:it works! thanks again :)
[18:12] <rdw200169_> Nikyo: hey, no problem
[18:12] <illissius`> (also, I can still type into them and make things happen, I just don't see what I'm doing)
[18:13] <south_korea> :> hi ~
[18:13] <koruptidpryde> lostinside, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6178081#post6178081
[18:13] <LongbowSir> so is their any time table as to when the fixes will come out so video chat will work again?
[18:13] <soundray> illissius`: it's video mode black magic. Try my suggestion -- alternatives to 0x317 (which is for 1024x768) are here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VESA_BIOS_Extensions#Linux_video_mode_numbers
[18:13] <ted_____> Hello, can somebody help me with apt-get issue?
[18:13] <koruptidpryde> lostinside, googled "PPP ubuntu sudani"
[18:13] <Nikyo> rdw200169_: If I figured out how to connect to SSH on Ubuntu, from my blackbery, like I did last night, I'll be able to get this to work..
[18:13] <ikonia> ted_____: just ask the question
[18:14] <illissius`> soundray: ok, i'll try that.. thanks
[18:14] <koruptidpryde> lostinside, hope that helps
[18:14] <lostinside> koruptidpryde,  actully I wrote that one :S but it's about connection with wvdial
[18:14] <Azureus> 1 more question: how can i access the sshd_config file?
[18:14] <ikonia> Azureus: open it in a text editor, /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[18:14] <koruptidpryde> lostinside, >_< afraid I'm at the limits of my helpfulness
[18:14] <ActionParsnip1> Azureus: sudo nano / gksudo gedit
[18:15] <ted_____> I deleted some files on a program, then decided I didn't need the program anymore so I did apt-get purge <program> , now I need the program so I did apt-get install <program> and its still missing the core files on it that were deleted
[18:15] <Azureus> ActionParsnip1:ok thanks
[18:15] <lostinside> koruptidpryde,  it's ok thanks :)
[18:15] <|neon|> i bee trying for weeks to make my desktop settings stay after i reboot, i.e. theme and how it looks, i can change it but once i reboot changes revert back to default, i am using gnome ubuntu 8.10 and tried session manager withou any luck,   suggestions? thx
[18:15] <ikonia> ted_____: what was the program ?
[18:15] <ted_____> wine
[18:15] <ValentineXX> hello i was installing ubuntu restricted extras that Configuring sun-java6-jre license something like that opened in terminal how to accept and quit that?
[18:15] <ikonia> ted_____: have you tried the -reinstall option ?
[18:16] <DIFH-iceroot> ValentineXX: enter
[18:16] <bkw> Anyone who can tell why I get "ERROR: Not a valid vname: rmin in line GPRINT:rmin:Min %6.0lf" when I comment in those two lines commented out in my script here: http://pastebin.ca/1257072 ?
[18:16] <ted_____> I have tried that through the synaptic package manager
[18:16] <ted_____> but not through apt-get
[18:16] <ikonia> bkw: join #bash
[18:16] <DIFH-iceroot> ValentineXX: tab and enter
[18:16] <ValentineXX> DIFH-iceroot: enter doing nothing
[18:16] <ikonia> bkw: thats a big script to start debugging based on your output
[18:16] <weewere> anyone able to help with a kernel version issue?
[18:16] <ValentineXX> DIFH-iceroot: thanks :D
[18:16] <ikonia> weewere ask
[18:17] <ikonia> ted_____: not sure why you'd not get the missing files
[18:17] <DIFH-iceroot> !ask | weewere
[18:17] <weewere> i ended up with 2.6.25 after upgrading, but apparently 2.6.27 is the latest.  I can install 2.6.27-generic through synaptic, but I don't see how to get the ubuntu version
[18:18] <ValentineXX> !wine
[18:18] <ikonia> weewere: how did you end up with 2.6.25
[18:18] <DIFH-iceroot> weewere: 8.04 or 8.10 ?
[18:18] <LongbowSir> Is their a fix so video chat will work with 8.10 ,it worked under 8.4 but not since the upgrade
[18:18] <weewere> ikonia: it was the default after upgrading from 8.04 to 8.10
[18:18] <ActionParsnip1> !mp3
[18:19] <bkw> ikonia: it is not a big script.. I'm pretty sure my variable definitions are correct so I donno why it complains about rmin and wmin
[18:19] <ikonia> weewere: there is no 2.6.25 kernelin the repos
[18:19] <ikonia> bkw: join #bash
[18:19] <bkw> already there
[18:19] <droopsta915> Whats recommended to install today. 8.04 or 8.10?
[18:20] <ikonia> weewere: ok, a collegue has just shown me where the .25 kernel is
[18:20] <weewere> ikonia: in synaptic, the linux-image-386 package lists the latest version as 2.6.25.2.3
[18:20] <Meshach> Hello everyone. I installed wine and ies4linux (A internet explorer emulator for linux) and it's not working properly, it says "You are not allowed to do that because the administrator has restrictions in place"..
[18:20] <ikonia> weewere: yes, your the second person to ask this question and we couldn't figure out where .25 was coming from
[18:20] <Azureus> i see that on www.perturb.org/dysplay/entry/770/ it sais "Note: the PermitTunnel option must be turned on..." but when i checked the sshd_config file i haven't found any "PermitTunnel" ..should i add it to sshd_config file?
[18:20] <Neremor> hello!
[18:21] <Neremor> i don't know whether i should ask here or in kde channel or somewhere else, but i just give it a try ;)
[18:21] <Neremor> ok
[18:21] <ikonia> weewere: so when you instal .27 does it now show up in your grub menu ?
[18:21] <Neremor> i would like to create my own kdm theme
[18:21] <remy> Can someone help me get 8 bpp working on ubuntu 8.10 for me?
[18:21] <Neremor> can i download a template for that somewhere?
[18:21] <Azureus> i see that on www.perturb.org/dysplay/entry/770/ it sais "Note: the PermitTunnel option must be turned on..." but when i checked the sshd_config file i haven't found any "PermitTunnel" ..should i add it to sshd_config file?
[18:21] <Neremor> where are kdm themes saved?
[18:22] <weewere> ikonia: it does, the issue is that i can only get 2.6.27-generic through synaptic, where i'd prefer the version with ubuntu patches
[18:22] <philsheldon> hi all, need some basic help, using 8.10 and need to reset a users xorg.conf, seems like the file has gone and dpkg-reconfigure doesn't edit screen info anymore. Is there a command to run the new xorg config GUI? help
[18:22] <ikonia> weewere: what patches ?
[18:22] <ikonia> weewere: the .27 has ubuntu related patches in
[18:22] <ikonia> weewere: what makes you think it's missing patches and what patches do you want ?
[18:23] <droopsta915> Whats better today. 8.04 or 8.10?
[18:23] <ikonia> droopsta915: depends on your needs and wants
[18:23] <dek> I am trying to install a program called TkIsem, when i try to execute it I get: "Error in startup script: couldn't load file "/usr/local/tkisem/tkisem.so": libtk8.3.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory". I have tk8.3 package installed. Any idea how I can fix it?
[18:24] <remy> does anyone know how to get 8 bpp working on ubuntu 8.10? I'm using the built in drivers that 8.10 offers
[18:24] <ikonia> dek: you've compiled it against the wrong librarys/paths
[18:24] <weewere> ikonia: i assumed there was an ubuntu-specific kernel since I've never had to install a generic kernel before, but if not I guess there's no problem
[18:24] <droopsta915> ikonia: I use it for pictures, music, internet.
[18:24] <gwennn> hello everybody
[18:24] <ted_____> Is it possible to choose a specific directory which apt-get installs a program too?
[18:24] <tolstiy> hi
[18:24] <ikonia> weewere: generic is just a name as in X86, rather than 386/486/586/686 specific
[18:24] <ikonia> ted_____: no
[18:24] <philsheldon> anyone know the command to launch the new xorg.conf configuration GUI in 8.10??
[18:24] <Pici> weewere: 'ubuntu-specific'? All of the kernels in the repositories are compilbed by the Ubuntu devs.
[18:24] <dek> ikonia: i havent compiled it, I converted a .rpm package to .deb using alien
[18:25] <ikonia> droopsta915: 8.04 will be supported for longer
[18:25] <weewere> ikonia: gotcha, thanks
[18:25] <ikonia> dek: there you go then
[18:25] <ikonia> dek: it's not meant for an ubuntu system so it wants things in the wrong locations/different versions
[18:25] <droopsta915> THANKS
[18:25] <remy> so no one knows how to get 8 bpp to work correctly in ubuntu 8.10?
[18:25] <gwennn> I'd like to change some icons like the trash one...where is?
[18:25] <Meshach> Hello everyone. I installed wine and ies4linux (A internet explorer emulator for linux) and it's not working properly, it says "You are not allowed to do that because the administrator has restrictions in place"..
[18:25] <Meshach> Anyone know how to fix this?
[18:25] <dek> ikonia: ok, so I guess I will have to create symbolic links :P
[18:25] <Finnish> Is ATI 8.11-driver working ok?
[18:26] <ikonia> dek: that won't fix version issues,
[18:26] <remy> yes, the ati driver is working fine.
[18:26] <ted_____> Is it possible to move C:drive on wine to a different location on computer?
[18:27] <ikonia> ted_____: should be yes
[18:28] <gwennn> how can I change trash icon?
[18:28] <koruptidpryde> mark___, https://launchpad.net/linuxdcpp http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct_Connect_(file_sharing)
[18:28] <sirjoebob> gwenn: you can change it by getting a different icon set or changing it under system, preferences, appearance
[18:29] <gwennn> thanks
[18:30] <sirjoebob> gwennn, np. you can get more themes at gnome-look.org :)
[18:30] <szx0> i'm trying to save my firewall configuration so that it reloads on reboot, but for some reason on reboot my saved iptables.rules is empty to default?
[18:31] <remy> fixme:xrandr:X11DRV_XRandR_SetCurrentMode Cannot change screen BPP from 32 to 8 :: someone help with this?
[18:31] <philsheldon> anyone know how to force 8.10 to auto detect x settings?
[18:32] <fus10nx> if I have a bash file called mplayer.bsh and I want that to start everytime I turn on my machine, what is the command to do that? Becuase I can't just put ./mplayer.bsh   --- needs to have the full path for instance /home/me/mplayer.bsh -- but that doesn't work I need the ./ before it I belive but then it gets confused with file paths
[18:32] <fus10nx> any idea?
[18:32] <ddgoose> philsheldon, sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[18:33] <Jeremy93283> Anyone know if there is image software out there for a web site that can do boxed descriptions like flickr has ( http://www.flickr.com/photos/bea_k63w-wa/2832193449/ ) and can zoom in and out of the image like on Google Maps?
[18:33] <fus10nx> doh
[18:33] <fus10nx> nevermind
[18:33] <philsheldon> thanks for responding, that command doesn't work anymore in 8.10, only configures keys etc?
[18:33] <szx0> I configured my firewall, setup my pre-up/post-down rules... but on reboot my iptables.rules file does not contain any of the rules that I added.....is there some other process or application that wipes out my iptables.rules file on boot up????
[18:34] <szx0> I configured my firewall, setup my pre-up/post-down rules... but on reboot my iptables.rules file does not contain any of the rules that I added.....is there some other process or application that wipes out my iptables.rules file on boot up????
[18:35] <szx0> I configured my firewall, setup my pre-up/post-down rules... but on reboot my iptables.rules file does not contain any of the rules that I added.....is there some other process or application that wipes out my iptables.rules file on boot up????
[18:35] <koruptidpryde> szx0, sounds like another daemon is overwriting the configuration
[18:35] <Meshach> Hello everyone. I installed wine and ies4linux (A internet explorer emulator for linux) and it's not working properly, it says "You are not allowed to do that because the administrator has restrictions in place"..
[18:36] <Meshach> Anyone know how to fix this?
[18:36] <koruptidpryde> szx0, and please don't paste so often..... it is obnoxious
[18:36] <tolstiy> How I can get access to a memory card and a phonebook of my smartphone? (windows mobile 5.0)
[18:36] <SpeCon> Hi all, I'm about to install ubuntu again because windows sucks. The problem with my computer here is, when i boot up from the live cd. i can choose install ubuntu. when it tries to go further i get a black screen with "cannot access tty"
[18:36] <szx0> koruptidpryde, yup I know its obnoxious, I help out quite a bit here... just need this asap
[18:36] <SpeCon> what can i do to help out this?
[18:36] <LjL> tolstiy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/WindowsMobile
[18:36] <krish> I am not able to view the results of Ajax programs on firefox iam using ubuntu 8.04
[18:37] <SpeCon> if i install debian or an other distro like mandrake i don't have anny issues on this computer
[18:37] <koruptidpryde> szx0, it sounds like there may be a gnome firewall daemon overwriting your config.... see if there is a gnome iptables daemon or something installed (*starts looking into what software in gnome might mess with iptables*)
[18:38] <LjL> szx0: does your iptables.rules file contain the rules *before* you reboot?
[18:38] <sirjoebob> Does anyone know how to enable a mouse click sound on Ubuntu similar to how it works on Mac
[18:38] <tolstiy> LjL,  big thanks
[18:38] <LjL> !ttyerror | SpeCon
[18:38] <szx0> koruptidpryde, It's a Ubuntu x86_64 GNU/Linux Server Edition... headless, no X or Gnome anywhere
[18:38] <SpeCon> yes thats what i get ljl
[18:38] <philsheldon> anyone know the command to launch the new GUI in 8.10 that configuires X?
[18:39] <doctor> How do I disable the screensaver in GNOME via the console - IE without using the screensavers applet in the System menu?
[18:39] <krish> hi
[18:39] <philsheldon> hello
[18:39] <cyberfin> Hiya, just a quickie: I have battered my home dir quite a bit to the point I'm not confident I should upgrade to 8.10 directly. My thought was to back up the home dir, recreate it and then upgrade. Is this the right way to go?
[18:39] <szx0> LjL, Yes it does contain the rules before a reoobt
[18:39] <KR-data> what is the best way to find a wireless card that works out of the box with Ubuntu?
[18:39] <rdw200169_> cyberfin: it's pretty simple, to switch back and forth
[18:40] <krish_> hi
[18:40] <remy> fixme:xrandr:X11DRV_XRandR_SetCurrentMode Cannot change screen BPP from 32 to 8
[18:40] <LjL> szx0: well, a fix would be to just use a different filename to save the rules to.
[18:40] <maxbaldwin> cyberfin: sure, sounds pretty good.
[18:40] <krish_> can anyone help me with ajax programs
[18:40] <rdw200169_> cyberfin: what you can do, when you re-install--and this means i'm assuming you keep /home on a separate partition--is just install without specifying a separate /home partition
[18:40] <magcius> krish_, what do you mean?
[18:40] <szx0> LjL, that's true I'm going to try that now
[18:41] <rdw200169_> cyberfin: then, you can play around with the old /home by specifying it in /etc/fstab and rebooting to see which config you like more
[18:41] <krish_> iam not able to view the results of ajax in firefox. iam using ubuntu 8.04
[18:41] <rdw200169_> cyberfin: the default or the old one
[18:41] <cyberfin> ok... so I keep home on the main partition... not an option but otherwise good idea
[18:42] <valon> hey guys I need some help please.
[18:43] <krish_> hey i was logged n someone suddenly disconnected me
[18:43] <krish_> how can it be done?
[18:43] <cyberfin> I suppose the question bears, after i delete my home dir (yes, I like radical ways), I can just go ahead and upgrade? I've got EnvyNG installed and stuff. No harm?
[18:43] <mora_> Ubuntu has started freezing for me after upgrade to 8.10 (never experienced that earlier, had ubuntu installed since 7.04 on this computer). I dont use compiz. Anyone know how i can troubleshoot that? any log I can look in after booting up again for example?
[18:43] <LjL> cyberfin: err how do you expect to do anything in your system (including upgrading) after you have deleted your home directory?
[18:43] <valon> i have just installd 8.10 and enabled my nvidia GeForce 3 ti 200 driver, but I'm getting allot of blury shades on the text... like dark rendering over the text
[18:44] <deigel> i am considering disabling hal from polling my dvd drive on my laptop to conserve battery.  i am curious how this might effect dvd writer/playback use ?
[18:44] <Syzothermy> hey all.. My wifi won't reconnect after the connection was lost. The network manager finds access points, but it won't connect to any of them.
[18:44] <Koordin> hi i have a weird problem ; when i try to uninstall tcl/tk8.4, apt-get uninstall also ocaml ; and when tcl/tk8.4 is installed, this bring forth conflicts with tcl/tk8.5 and amsn does not work. so how can i do to remove tcl/tk8.4 without removing ocaml ?
[18:44] <LjL> cyberfin: also, having "stuff" (as in third-party packages/repositories) can definitely do harm on upgrading.
[18:44] <Koordin> uninstalls*
[18:44] <matthew> valon that is a compiz issue
[18:44] <doctor> mora_:  i always have a freezing issue when i distupgrade.  this occurred between 7.10 and 8.04, and again from 8.04 to 8.10
[18:44] <valon> matthew, do you know how to fix it ?
[18:45] <matthew> use metacity
[18:45] <mora_> doctor: so.. it goes away eventuelly? is that what you are saying?
[18:45] <doctor> mora_: no.
[18:45] <matthew> or find a good gtk 2.x theme
[18:45] <joaopinto> doctor, you mean, using the update manager ?
[18:45] <doctor> mora_: the best solution i've found is to put your /home on a separate partition and just reinstall the base system instead of upgrading.
[18:45] <doctor> joapinto: correct.
[18:45] <krish_> doctor pls use some hot water to release the freeze
[18:45] <matthew> I use a greyhound theme works great
[18:45] <valon> matthew, what about emerald
[18:45] <matthew> I don't use emerald
[18:45] <doctor> joaopinto, correct.
[18:45] <cyberfin> that answers my question then. Thanks LjL. My thought was to create a new user and upgrade from that account, importing old configs and files as and when needed from the backed up home folder
[18:46] <doctor> krish_: i prefer using my sonic screwdriver.
[18:46] <valon> but it happens over all text google search results etc
[18:46] <deigel> i am considering disabling hal from polling my dvd drive on my laptop to conserve battery.  i am curious how this might effect dvd writer/playback use ?
[18:46] <ldiamond> FIREFOX keeps randomly crashing
[18:46] <LjL> cyberfin: you can do that. just be sure to create the new user *first*, and delete the old *later*
[18:46] <ldiamond> No addon, no plugins, no extensions.
[18:46] <matthew> what video card do you have again valon ?
[18:46] <Koordin> hi i have a weird problem ; when i try to uninstall tcl/tk8.4, apt-get uninstalls also ocaml ; and when tcl/tk8.4 is installed, this bring forth conflicts with tcl/tk8.5 and amsn does not work. so how can i do to remove tcl/tk8.4 without removing ocaml ?
[18:46] <valon> matthew, one sec
[18:46] <Syzothermy> guys, can I have some help with my wifi? thanks :P
[18:46] <LjL> cyberfin: also, be sure to give it administrator privilege (otherwise that's a trip to recovery mode)
[18:46] <nosorog> Hi all, how i can install voxware codec in ubuntu?
[18:46] <cyberfin> Lol. Already done. But thanks for the advice :)
[18:46] <valon> matthew, nVidia Corporation NV20 [GeForce3 Ti 200]
[18:47] <mora_> doctor: alright. thanks for the tip. Iäve got home on a separate partition so i guess I should be able to reinstall w/o too much trouble.
[18:47] <matthew> Have you tried installing the drivers with envyng
[18:47] <krish_> nosorog, u can install it using a computer with ubuntu installed on it
[18:47] <valon> matthew, no
[18:47] <matthew> valon, sudo apt-get install envyng
[18:47] <cyberfin> Off I go, wish me luck... bb.
[18:47] <joaopinto> mora_, that is not likely to be related to the upgrade process itself
[18:47] <doctor> mora_: just be smart and rename your home directory first with the livecd.  and back /etc/ up in case you need to reference anything.
[18:47] <matthew> if it doesn't see it you probably need to enable universe and multiverse repos and reload
[18:48] <matthew> once you install it do
[18:48] <matthew> sudo envyng -t
[18:48] <valon> ok
[18:48] <matthew> it will get your drivers and install it for you
[18:48] <matthew> just follow the directions
[18:48] <joaopinto> mora_, if your system freezes with the new kernel/xorg. reinstalling will not help
[18:48] <doctor> mora_: you can then just copy stuff like your .mozilla, .purple directories/etc directly into the new home directory and you'll be fine.  you can even copy your desktop settings, and then you won't even lose your wallpaper.  ;]
[18:48] <Koordin> hi i have a weird problem ; when i try to uninstall tcl/tk8.4, apt-get uninstalls also ocaml ; and when tcl/tk8.4 is installed, this bring forth conflicts with tcl/tk8.5 and amsn does not work. so how can i do to remove tcl/tk8.4 without removing ocaml ?
[18:48] <ghostlines> if mail is sent with tls security via port 587, can everyone still receive it?
[18:49] <joaopinto> Koordin, you can't, because ocaml needs tcl/tk8.4
[18:49] <netizen> halloo to all
[18:49] <mora_> joapinto: perhaps, but I've got to try something... gotta start somwhere :)
[18:49] <joaopinto> ghostlines, yes, that encryption is just between your client ant the smtp server
[18:49] <Koordin> joaopinto: so how can i do ? because amsn needs tcl.tk8.5 and there is a conflict between those
[18:50] <mora_> doctor: alright, thanks alot for your help.
[18:50] <joaopinto> mora_, there are specific procedures to debug system freezes, reinstalling is not one of them :)
[18:50] <doctor> mora_: sure.
[18:50] <mora_> jaopinto: could you point me in the right direction?
[18:50] <doctor> joaopinto, while normally i'd agree with you my upgrade issues were all but unresolvable.
[18:51] <doctor> joaopinto: i spent multiple days debugging each time, and the freezing was never the only issue.  recently moving from hardy to intrepid, for example, x wouldn't restart or shut down - it'd just hang until a hard-reboot.
[18:51] <verwilst> hi
[18:52] <joaopinto> doctor, well, I am just advocating this process after a discussion with the ubuntu developers, we strongly discouraged me to not suggest fresh reinstall
[18:52] <verwilst> doctor: talking about freezes after being idle?
[18:52] <joaopinto> they...
[18:52] <verwilst> btw, somebody has the problem that he has to click several times before the click is actually "registered" in intrepid?
[18:52] <doctor> joaopinto: had idle freezes when i went to hardy.  but if suggesting a clean install isn't kosher, i'll stop suggesting it.
[18:53] <valon> matthew, i cant seem to get envyg
[18:53] <Meshach> Well, nevermind I got ies4linux working.. IE6 at least.
[18:53] <Meshach> later guys
[18:53] <verwilst> i sometimes have to click 5 times before it's actually clicked
[18:53]  * Meshach waves goodbye
[18:54] <matthew> valon did you see my private message
[18:54] <mora_> joaopinto: got a freeze just now, sry. Could you point me in the right direction on how to troubleshoot this, then?
[18:54] <joaopinto> mora_, I am searching for the wiki entry
[18:55] <tucuna> anyone seen this: http://colonos.wordpress.com/2008/11/13/the-xmms-in-gnulinux-manifesto-v01/ ??
[18:55] <NekroJakub> Can anyone aid me a little with my Ubuntu installation?
[18:55] <karname> hello , in ibex when i configure pppoe with pppoeconf , when i resart my wireless device that i connect with it don't show , when i configure again with lan , after again restart also my lan don't show , what do i do?
[18:55] <tucuna> NekroJakub - whats the problem?
[18:55] <NekroJakub> tucuna: I just don't want to screw up this time. I'll explain on private, if you mind.
[18:55] <Syzothermy> hey all.. My wifi won't reconnect after the connection was lost. The network manager finds access points, but it won't connect to any of them.
[18:56] <tucuna> NekroJakub - as you like
[18:56] <joaopinto> mora_, when the system freezes, can you CTRL-ALT-F1 ?
[18:56] <mikebeecham> hi guys...I wonder if you can help...I have some .wma files, the id3 tags I cannot edit in Rhythmbox or EasyTag...I believe it's because I do not have read or write permissions
[18:56] <mikebeecham> how can I add these permissions?
[18:56] <Koordin> how can i make an alias with spaces ?
[18:57] <joaopinto> mora_, better, give a read at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSystemCrash
[18:57] <mora_> joaopinto, no, it's a complete hardware lockup. hardware switch is the only way.
[18:57] <remy> fixme:xrandr:X11DRV_XRandR_SetCurrentMode Cannot change screen BPP from 32 to 8
[18:57] <mora_> joaopinto, alright thanks. I'll do that
[18:57] <remy> someone help with that?
[18:57] <maple1> I just took a bunch of codeine and can't feel anything
[18:57] <maple1> what am I doing wrong?
[18:57] <BleSS> how to configure the microphone?
[18:57] <maple1> is it because I'm on windows?
[18:58] <LjL> Koordin: use quotation marks. "
[18:59] <mikebeecham> hi guys...I wonder if you can help...I have some .wma files, the id3 tags I cannot edit in Rhythmbox or EasyTag...I believe it's because I do not have read or write permissions
[18:59] <mikebeecham> how can I add these permissions?
[18:59] <illissius> it's not safe to use intelfb together with the intel driver for x.org -- is it?
[18:59] <deigel> i get this error when i try and run aticonfig aticonfig --set-powerstate=1 Parse error on line 34 of section Module in file /etc/X11/xorg.conf	"Disable" is not a valid keyword in this section.
[18:59] <Gnea> BleSS: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=238820
[19:00] <apisznasdin> mikebeecham https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions
[19:01] <jackdaw> hey all, i have a 2nd HD and it always mounts noexec, i tried to change mtab to stop this but on reboot it has noexec again
[19:01] <jackdaw> fstab is setup with exec in the options for that diskl
[19:01] <kho_zhi> hi
[19:01] <remy> don't use mtab
[19:01] <sirjoebob> Anybody know how to enable a mouse click sound in Ubuntu?
[19:02] <bruenig> !info python
[19:02] <mikebeecham> is there a .wma to .mp3 converter application in ubuntu?
[19:02] <kho_zhi> my ubuntu have graphics driver issue on dell inspiron 1420 ....
[19:02] <jackdaw> remy, well i didn't even know it existed till i had this issue, i tried to change things in fstab to be right but when the disk gets mounted its noexec...
[19:02] <bruenig> is there no 2.6?
[19:02] <jannott> You need something special to run ubuntu on bochs?
[19:02] <Syzothermy> hey all, can someone help me with my ubuntu 8.10 wifi?
[19:02] <bruenig> where is python 2.6 fellows
[19:03] <kho_zhi> im having nvidia 8400 m GS GPU on my laptop
[19:03] <KR-data> does the D-Link DWL-G122 work out of the box on ubuntu?
[19:03] <rrittenhouse> Is there any way to get VMWare server to work in Intrepid? I can't get it to install because of my kernel version....
[19:03] <jackdaw> rrittenhouse, i have same problem
[19:03] <jannott> !bochs
[19:04] <jannott> !qemu
[19:04] <rrittenhouse> jackdaw, It's really annoying. I was hosting our development website on my box and after an upgrade it went wonky! gah.
[19:04] <rrittenhouse> jackdaw, Upgraded to Ibex and it just does about the same thing.
[19:04] <jackdaw> rrittenhouse, you could use qemu perhaps?
[19:04] <rrittenhouse> jackdaw, I tried. It seemed way to darn buggy
[19:04] <jackdaw> rrittenhouse, it's a ploy to stop ubuntu users using vmware, qemu is supier slow on my box...
[19:04] <Sereros> wow, here are so damn much people
[19:04] <jenn> anyone know anything about developing evolution?
[19:05] <rrittenhouse> jackdaw, Yeah its just not ready
[19:05] <musikgoat> !language | Sereros
[19:05] <jenn> looking for an easy feature to add
[19:05] <kho_zhi> hi...
[19:05] <Sereros> okey okey.. my nvidiadriver still don't work with the new version :'(
[19:05] <kho_zhi> nid help in ubuntu intrepid ibex
[19:06] <kho_zhi> wah
[19:06] <kho_zhi> does it matter if i continue using it?
[19:06] <jenn> easy evolution feature to develop?
[19:06] <|Dede|> If I can access my root partition with "/", what do I have to enter to access my other partition called "System"
[19:07] <Sereros> !language Sereros
[19:07] <fryguy> |Dede|: you need to mount the partition somewhere first
[19:07] <paul68> BlueEagle are you here?
[19:07] <fryguy> |Dede|: if ubuntu has autodetected this and already mounted it, it's probably in /media/
[19:08] <pianohacker> I have an Intrepid laptop with a default of qwerty layout (so others can log in), and dvorak on my user. This works at startup, but a usb keyboard I have attached randomly switches back to qwerty
[19:08] <BleSS> Gnea: thanks! the mic. works now
[19:08] <kho_zhi> Sereros , does it matter i continue using without the nvidia driver ?
[19:09] <pianohacker> Does anyone know why this might happen?
[19:09] <paul68> I can ping from router 1 to my eth0 on the server but I can't reach eth1 on my server fron the eth0 side from the accesspoint on eth1 I can reach my server but not eth0 can someone help me with that please
[19:09] <fryguy> pianohacker: check if you are using evdev for your input devices, and try defaulting back to the standard xorg way of doing input devices
[19:09] <mikebeecham> I wonder if anyone can help.  I have an album in wma format.  it wont let me edit the ID3 tags.  When I look at the properties of each of the individual files, the permission options are all greyed out...how can I change this?
[19:09] <fryguy> paul68: are both interfaces on the same subnet?
[19:09] <pianohacker> fryguy: Thanks, I believe I am; would that just involve creating the necessary entries in xorg.conf?
[19:09] <fryguy> pianohacker: right
[19:09] <pianohacker> awesome
[19:09] <kho_zhi> yo all , does it matter i continue using without the nvidia driver ?
[19:10] <fryguy> pianohacker: likewise, if you are using standard methods, try using evdev. I'm guessing the keyboard is getting "desynced" on the usb bus, gets redetcted, with default settings
[19:10] <fryguy> kho_zhi: no it doesn't matter
[19:10] <paul68> fryguy: yes but different ip's eth0 is on 192.168.0.10 and the eth1 is on 192.168.1.22
[19:10] <kho_zhi> ok thanks
[19:10] <Guest38416> I have an issue with ubuntu with a clean install of 8.04, recompiling the kernel fixes the problem but I lose sound and wireless.  Is there a way to get all the information I need right now to make the sound a wireless work and then recompile and use that info in order to fix what changes after I recompile?
[19:10] <ikonia> Guest38416: why are you recompiling the kernel ?
[19:10] <musikgoat> paul68: those are different subnets, if you mask is 255.255.255.0
[19:11] <fryguy> Guest38416: just reinstall/recompile the drivers for the new kernel
[19:11] <paul68> musikgoat: mask is 255.255.255.0
[19:11] <fryguy> paul68: then those are different subnets, and you will need to define a route between them
[19:11] <DiiPhantom> hello all
[19:12] <paul68> fryguy: how do I achieve that?
[19:12] <fryguy> paul68: use the route command
[19:12] <jim_p> can i group my "contacts" in pidgin, protocol-wise? all msns together, all ircs together and all jabbers together
[19:12] <HarigeHarry> Everybody "A TABLE"
[19:12] <fryguy> jim_p: you can organize your buddy list however you want.  just drag and drop entries around
[19:13] <musikgoat> paul68: also if you want permanent static routes, you can read this: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-add-permanent-static-routes-in-ubuntu.html
[19:13] <fryguy> jim_p: keep in mind that an alias can have multiple screen names associated with it, and the point of pidgin is to make your different protocols transparent and not matter
[19:13] <|Dede|> fryguy: Can Windows still affect if Ubuntu can mount the partition, even after it has been shut down?
[19:13] <paul68> fryguy: this is the result of route -n http://paste.ubuntu.com/72491/
[19:13] <fryguy> |Dede|: occasionally it can, yes
[19:13] <|Dede|> fryguy: I cannot access my partitions... It says "Unable to mount"
[19:13] <DiiPhantom> hi all, i am very new here, i get around very easey in windows, but im having dificulti here
[19:14] <fryguy> |Dede|: look at ntfsfix
[19:14] <tripitakit> |Dede|: if win has been closed not properly it can freeze the partition...
[19:14] <DiiPhantom> can anyone help me with installing my nvidia drivers?
[19:14] <fryguy> |Dede|: assuming it's an ntfs partition
[19:14] <jim_p> fryguy: not my buddy list. i know how to do that. i just want my msn contacts to be seperate from the jabber ones for instance. making a group to group all msn contacts and name it "msn" is hillarious
[19:14] <ikonia> DiiPhantom: they should already be installed
[19:14] <tarelerulz> I am trying to get friend to try Ubuntu/linux out .   How much space does Ubuntu really need to work?
[19:14] <ikonia> DiiPhantom: if you go into the system menu, you'll see an administraiton menu, then a hardware drivers menu
[19:14] <|Dede|> so that means, startup windows, and shut it down properly, and it should work?
[19:14] <DiiPhantom> well its not detecting my refresh etc etc
[19:14] <ikonia> DiiPhantom: you should be able to enable it in there
[19:14] <yaser> any one knows whether its possible to have rounded corners in Gnome menus?
[19:14] <DiiPhantom> let me see
[19:14] <tripitakit> DiiPhantom: look at the restricted driver icon on the panel or in the system/admin menu
[19:14] <fryguy> jim_p: your contacts ARE your buddy list, unless i'm misunderstanding whta you mean
[19:15] <paul68> musikgoat: can I pm you please
[19:15] <musikgoat> paul68: no, i'm not a routing guru, sorry, just giving you a pointer
[19:15] <yaser> tarelerulz, not very much, I cant be more precisa but I can ensure that with 4Gb you are fine
[19:15] <fryguy> talisein: couple gigabytes for standard installs
[19:15] <DiiPhantom> it says "no propietary drivers are in use on this system"
[19:15] <jim_p> fryguy: yes they are. but i cant make smaller groups of them to keep the protocols seeprated
[19:15] <jim_p> fryguy: can i make an example?
[19:15] <|Dede|> trpitakit: so that means, startup windows, and shut it down properly, and it should work?
[19:15] <paul68> musikgoat: not saying that you are but need to understand this also
[19:15] <ikonia> DiiPhantom: what video card do you have ?
[19:15] <fryguy> jim_p: yes, you can, but i'm saying you should be grouping PEOPLE together, not protocols
[19:16] <DiiPhantom> evga 8800gts
[19:16] <tripitakit> |Dede|: yes it's a good try
[19:16] <fryguy> |Dede|: or just use ntfsfix like i said
[19:16] <musikgoat> paul68: everyone benefits from public convo's
[19:16] <ikonia> DiiPhantom: in the menu do you see any drivers available for use ?
[19:16] <DiiPhantom> nope
[19:16] <paul68> musikgoat: true there
[19:16] <DiiPhantom> in that same window u mean?>
[19:16] <ikonia> DiiPhantom: thats right
[19:16] <DiiPhantom> no nothing its empty
[19:16] <tripitakit> fryguy: do ntfsfix unfreeze a froze ntfs too?
[19:16] <fryguy> 8800GTS isn't supported by the nvidia driver included in 8.04 if i remember correctly.  not sure if that's applicable here or not
[19:16] <tarelerulz> yaser,  The iso is 600+ and all most 700 mb .  Is any of that compress and therefor uncompressed when you install it.
[19:16] <fryguy> tripitakit: pretty sure
[19:17] <DiiPhantom> i have 8.10
[19:17] <tripitakit> fryguy: ty, didnt know taht
[19:17] <|Dede|> fryguy, do I have to download that?
[19:17] <paul68> musikgoat: ok what do I need to according to this example so that eth1 can communicate with eth0
[19:17] <ikonia> DiiPhantom: can you please pastebin the output of the command "lspci" please.
[19:17] <fryguy> |Dede|: no idea
[19:17] <jim_p> fryguy: lets say my friend X is online on msn, and my friend Y is online on jabber. pidgin shows both of them as online, in an "online" list with an icon that denotes their protocol
[19:17] <tripitakit> |Dede|: probably u need tu apt-get install it
[19:17] <yaser> tarelerulz, yes of course
[19:17] <musikgoat> paul68: this is a more detailed outline and clear info: http://www.comptechdoc.org/os/linux/usersguide/linux_ugrouting.html
[19:17] <DiiPhantom> ikonia: want me to put it in the terminal right?
[19:17] <|Dede|> E: Couldn't find package ntfsfix
[19:17] <fryguy> jim_p: right
[19:18] <yaser> tarelerulz, it is decompressed, I would say that to 1.2-1-,4Gb
[19:18] <ikonia> DiiPhantom: yes please and pastebin the output
[19:18] <fryguy> |Dede|: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/hardy/man8/ntfsfix.html
[19:18] <yaser> tarelerulz, 1.2-1,4Gb
[19:18] <DiiPhantom> wat do u mean with pastebin :(
[19:18] <jim_p> fryguy: i want X to be on msn users and Y to be on jabber users!
[19:18] <ikonia> !pastebin > DiiPhantom
[19:18] <Azureus> how can i edit /root/.ssh/authorized_keys ?
[19:18] <ikonia> Azureus: open it in a text editor
[19:19] <ikonia> Azureus: although your root user should not have an authorized_keys file
[19:19] <paul68> musikgoat: ok thanks
[19:19] <fryguy> jim_p: so then manipulate the groups to do that. it's trivial to create new groups and move users around.  No idea why you would care what protocol you are using to connect with somebody, but just create a new group and move them around however you want
[19:19] <ikonia> Azureus: more so as ubuntu locks the root user
[19:19] <DiiPhantom> brb
[19:19] <|Dede|> fryguy: Thank you, i had to search for ntfsprogs
[19:19] <DiiPhantom> ill read that
[19:19] <toffer_dif> I want to burn some .avi files so I can watch them on a standard DVD-player. Does anyone know a good program to convert the files to .vob?
[19:19] <ikonia> toffer_dif: mencoder
[19:19] <Azureus> well..i tried to edit it with a text editor but it couldn't be saved
[19:19] <tripitakit> |Dede|: ntfsfix  comes with the ntfsprogs package
[19:20] <fryguy> toffer_dif: ffmpeg has provider better performance and quality in my experience
[19:20] <ikonia> Azureus: why are you setting up ssh keys for the root user
[19:20] <ikonia> Azureus: ubuntu locks the root user
[19:20] <tarelerulz> I If you do the windows installer rout and it  installs the  image file and then it set up grub.  How would you undo the grub part and  go back to what you normally would have ?  a normal windows boot up process .
[19:20] <Uplink> my custom login sounds are not playing, anyone help please?
[19:21] <Azureus>  Ikonia: i'm not realy sure what i'm doing realy...i'm just trying to setup a vpn network
[19:21] <fryguy> tarelerulz: put windows media in, start up recovery console, and type fixmbr
[19:21] <tripitakit> tarelerulz: i think there is fixmbr prog in win
[19:21] <droopsta915> whats the best vde player for ubuntu?
[19:21] <ikonia> Azureus: you shouldn't be doing that
[19:21] <droopsta915> video
[19:21] <toffer_dif> I'll test them, thanks =)
[19:21] <ikonia> Azureus: ssh keys are nothing to do with a vpn
[19:21] <fryguy> droopsta915: i like mplayer
[19:21] <Uplink> droopsta915: vlc maybe
[19:21] <Azureus> Ikonia: well that's what i found in a tutorial
[19:21] <Uplink> !vlc
[19:22] <droopsta915> ill try mplayer, thanks
[19:22] <Uplink> !vcl
[19:22] <Uplink> lol
[19:22] <ikonia> Azureus: then I suggest you ask the person who wrote the tutorial as it doesn't sound like it's meant for ubuntu
[19:22] <Azureus> Ikonia: debian-administration.org/articles/539
[19:22] <Uplink> my custom login sounds are not playing, anyone help please?
[19:22] <ikonia> Uplink: you just asked 30 seconds ago
[19:22] <Uplink> 2 minutes ago
[19:23] <jim_p> !blacklist
[19:23] <Uplink> my timestamps dont lie
[19:23] <AnythingJe> Hey guys, I'm trying to get Ushare to work (streaming to my xbox360)  It runs fine, but the xbox times out when it tries to connect (it can see it, just can't connect).  I don't have iptables, and I've disabled ufw... any ideas what it could be?
[19:23] <ikonia> Uplink: ok - then leave it 10 - 15 minutes between repeats
[19:23] <tarelerulz>  Thanks , fryguy ,  my Friend is hardcore windows user and not someone that really wants to switch if he can't undo thing in case he don't like it.  That is why I ask about all that.  I know with Ubuntu there are lot of way to try it out . I don't know other then how to install it and run it.
[19:24] <tripitakit> Uplink: but it's not polite to repeat so  often a question... pls wait someone to answer
[19:24] <fryguy> tarelerulz: i'm a windows user as well, glad i could help
[19:24] <ikonia> Azureus: that tutorial is doe debian not ubuntu, ubuntu has some differences with regard to the root user
[19:24] <ghostlines> how to get postfix to send mail via port 587
[19:24] <rdw200169_> AnythingJe: It might be the default iptables drop policy
[19:24] <rdw200169_> AnythingJe: you can't get rid of iptables
[19:24] <AnythingJe> /etc/init.d/iptables start
[19:24] <AnythingJe> bash: /etc/init.d/iptables: No such file or directory\
[19:24] <ikonia> rdw200169_: iptables has no policy defined by default
[19:24] <|Dede|> fryguy: What should I enter as "device"? I tried "System" and "/media/sda1" of which both wont work :S
[19:25] <Azureus> Ikonia: can you suggest me an easy to follow tutorial, if it's not too much that i ask ofc ...:)
[19:25] <fryguy> |Dede|: if your partition is sda1, it would be /dev/sda1
[19:25] <rdw200169_> AnythingJe: ikonia: no, ubuntu, by default, implements iptables drop on input,output,forward
[19:25] <|Dede|> fryguy: thanks
[19:25] <tripitakit> |Dede|: </dev/sda1
[19:25] <ikonia> Azureus: I don't know of one off the top of my head
[19:25] <ikonia> rdw200169_: default policy on my install is none
[19:25] <rdw200169_> ikonia: there's no such thing as that
[19:25] <rdw200169_> ikonia: check the output of iptables -L
[19:25] <ikonia> rdw200169_: I just did
[19:25] <AnythingJe> so how do I change that to allow all (I'm within a network, so will be fine)?  And why don't I have an /etc/init.d/iptables?
[19:26] <Cipher> hey guys
[19:26] <rdw200169_> ikonia: so you have a line like Chain INPUT (policy DROP)
[19:26] <ikonia> rdw200169_: no
[19:26] <rdw200169_> ikonia: then the iptables kernel modules aren't loaded
[19:26] <Cipher> anyone know how to make my ubuntu810 support plug and play usb harddriver
[19:26] <rdw200169_> ikonia: you're playing with fire ;)
[19:26] <pepelucho> sex un live ... are you need sex?? , pic and videos p0rn  click here :   http://www.peruanasricas.com
[19:27] <ikonia> rdw200169_ what ?
[19:27] <rdw200169_> ikonia: it's bad not to have any firewall whatsoever
[19:27] <tripitakit> ikonia: fast
[19:27] <fryguy> default iptables on my system is drop on input/output/forward as well
[19:27] <ikonia> rdw200169_: I have network related firewalls, not host based
[19:27] <AnythingJe> would "ufw disable" do the trick? does ufw work by creating iptables rules for me? or are they two separate firewalls that both have to be disabled?
[19:27] <ikonia> rdw200169_: and thats the default ubuntu install
[19:28] <rdw200169_> look, i'm not arguing this
[19:28] <ikonia> rdw200169_: neither am I
[19:28] <kubuntu__> I have read the ubunut 8.04 live cd has a partition program in it, is that true?
[19:28] <fryguy> kubuntu__: yes
[19:28] <tarelerulz> I am trying to make home partition on running system  and it says to move the old home.  with that just change where that file is mounted or copy of the files to  different place on the disk mounted as  old home?
[19:28] <tripitakit> kubuntu__: gparted
[19:29] <musikgoat> AnythingJe: ufw is a front end to iptables
[19:29] <paul__> Does anyone know about programming in c++ on linux?
[19:29] <ikonia> paul__: tons of people in ##c++
[19:29] <fryguy> paul__: ##c++
[19:29] <paul__> alright i'll check it out
[19:29] <Fermio91> hi guy, i've wow in ubuntu, someone can help me?
[19:30] <fryguy> !ask | Fermio91
[19:30] <AnythingJe> musikgoat: awesome great, so "ufw status" gives me "Firewall not loaded" should imply that I allow all connections, right?
[19:30] <musikgoat> AnythingJe: yes
[19:30] <AnythingJe> Guess that still doesn't explain why my xbox times out when it tries to connect to Ushare :-/
[19:31] <kaos_nk2> is there a way to control the file manager that automount is used with on ubuntu?
[19:31] <|neon|> how do i install a gtk theme under gnome?
[19:31] <kaos_nk2> I'd like to replace nautilus with rox-filer
[19:31] <Entied> Is there a webcam which works straigh out of the box?
[19:31] <fryguy> kaos_nk2: automounting happens at the filesystem level, any filemanager you use will show the effects of it
[19:31] <musikgoat> AnythingJe: does the xbox see the ushare?
[19:32] <joaopinto> Entied, Logitech E3500
[19:32] <tarelerulz> TI can see it I have sen tutorial about doing just that.
[19:32] <tripitakit> kaos_nk2: maybe u mean the default file manager
[19:32] <paul68> musikgoat: do you know the command for showing your ipfonfig with default gateway?
[19:32] <kaos_nk2> tripitakit: quite possibly
[19:32] <ikonia> paul__: netstat -rn
[19:32] <fryguy> paul__: use route to show the default gateway
[19:32] <paul68> ikonia: thanks
[19:32] <rdw200169_> paul__: or ip route
[19:32] <tripitakit> kaos_nk2: so the question is how to make rox you default file manager
[19:32] <kaos_nk2> tripitakit: I don't suppose merely removing nautilus would help?
[19:32] <kaos_nk2> tripitakit: so it seems, yes
[19:32] <tripitakit> kaos_nk2: no it wont helo
[19:33] <AnythingJe> musikgoat: Sort of... if I wait 5 minutes or so it appears but doesn't let me connect... it disappears if I wait longer though
[19:33] <tripitakit> *help
[19:33] <|neon|> how do i install a gtk theme under gnome?
[19:33] <kaos_nk2> tripitakit: so, where is the default file manager defined?
[19:33] <tripitakit> kaos_nk2: at the moment i cant remember
[19:33] <ikonia> |neon|: open the look and feel menu and drag the theme in
[19:33] <kaos_nk2> ah, alright
[19:33] <tripitakit> kaos_nk2: i'd look for it..
[19:33] <fryguy> |neon|: one way is to put it under ~/.themes and it will show up in the preferences | appearance dialog
[19:33] <|neon|> kaos_nk2: thx
[19:33] <tripitakit> kaos_nk2: but i'm sure if u google fo that quetion u'll find it out
[19:33] <Guest85702> lost all files on my desktop dropped to a root shell and i can see them with the ls command. I also can't currently view or write anything to my desktop any ideas on how to fix it?
[19:33] <AnythingJe> musikgoat: so it fades in and out.... which makes me not surprised that the connection times out
[19:33] <ikonia> Guest85702: define lost all files
[19:33] <ikonia> Guest85702: what happened
[19:34] <rdw200169_> Guest85702: you gotta kill nautilus
[19:34] <kaos_nk2> well I saw some examples of replacing nautilus with other file managers, but most of them were scripts used in place of nautilus, there must be a way to define the default file maanger?
[19:34] <Guest85702> there no longer appear on my desktop
[19:34] <tripitakit> kaos_nk2: funny, one reason for me to upgrade to interpid is the tabbin in nautilus!
[19:34] <musikgoat> AnythingJe: can you pastebin your ushare.conf?
[19:34] <rdw200169_> Guest85702: when you kill nautilus it'll restart on it's own
[19:34] <jwtodd> hey all ... silly question ... command to determine the version of ubuntu?
[19:34] <ikonia> jwtodd: lsb_release -a
[19:34] <jwtodd> thx :)
[19:34] <kaos_nk2> tripitakit: i love rox XD
[19:34] <fryguy> !version | jwtodd
[19:35] <Guest85702> if i go to /home/john/Desktop under my user name nothing is in the desktop folder
[19:35] <tripitakit> kaos_nk2: i like it too.. but wont make it the deafult
[19:35] <|neon|> look and feel menu?
[19:35] <ikonia> |neon|: appearece
[19:35] <AnythingJe> musikgoat: Ya, configure file here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=983131
[19:35] <|neon|> system / preference / appearance?
[19:35] <Guest85702> if i drop to a root shell prompt i can use the ls command and there there just not showing up under my user name
[19:35] <ikonia> |neon|: correct
[19:35] <ikonia> Guest85702: then that data is gone
[19:35] <fryguy> Guest85702: see is where, what directory
[19:35] <kaos_nk2> there are several annoying thing about nautilus i can't bother to try to configure, first is having to double click everything, and second is the fact i can't delete anything, just send it to teh trash bin
[19:36] <tripitakit> kaos_nk2: in system preferences there is a preferred apps ..
[19:36] <craigbass1976> nyone familiar with cinellera?
[19:36] <kaos_nk2> things*
[19:36] <kaos_nk2> tripitakit: yeah, I looked there already, no sign for a file manager
[19:36] <ikonia> Guest85702: ahh sorry you can see them with ls
[19:36] <fryguy> kaos_nk2: both of those are easy fixes
[19:36] <|neon|> i try dragging into that it says invalid theme, trying to install mira gtk 2.*
[19:36] <Uplink> ok i solved my problem
[19:36] <Uplink> ubuntu bugg
[19:36] <Guest85702> yes but only in a root shell
[19:36] <tripitakit> kaos_nk2: hummm in the confiuration editor as well?
[19:36] <jaxdahl> how can i determine whether my laptop's memory card reader is supported by ubuntu?
[19:36] <kaos_nk2> fryguy: care to tell me where I find them quickly?
[19:36] <fryguy> |neon|: do what i said before, put it into your ~/.themes directory and it will show up in the dialog (if it's just gtk and not a whole theme you will need to click customize and find it there)
[19:36] <ikonia> |neon|: |neon| then it's not a valid theme file
[19:37] <fryguy> kaos_nk2: shift-delete to delete permanently, just like in windows, and single/double click is right in the preferences menu
[19:37] <musikgoat> AnythingJe: few moments
[19:37] <tripitakit> kaos_nk2: *configuration editor
[19:37] <Guest85702> john@john-desktop:~$ cd Desktop
[19:37] <Guest85702> bash: cd: Desktop: Permission denied this is what happens when i try using my user name
[19:37] <ikonia> Guest85702 ls -la /home/$username
[19:37] <craigbass1976> How do I get video off a disc (my camera records to dvd and has no firewire output) into cinelerra?  Is there a built in ripper?  I try with acidrip, k3b, etc and I can only seem to get audio along with the video.
[19:37] <Pabix> Hello! I'm looking for a way to run a graphical command as another user… is there a simple way?
[19:37] <jaxdahl> as far as i can tell, the kernel recognizes the memory card reader when i do lspci
[19:38] <jaxdahl> but nothing happens when i insert a memory card -- is it supposed to be automatic?
[19:38] <fryguy> Pabix: gksu or gksudo
[19:38] <Guest85702> john@john-desktop:~$ ls -la /home/$john
[19:38] <Guest85702> total 28
[19:38] <Guest85702> drwxr-xr-x  4 root root  4096 2008-11-08 12:49 .
[19:38] <Guest85702> drwxr-xr-x 20 root root  4096 2008-11-10 23:14 ..
[19:38] <Guest85702> drwxr-xr-x 45 john john  4096 2008-11-15 14:29 john
[19:38] <FloodBot3> Guest85702: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:38] <Guest85702> drwx------  2 root root 16384 2008-11-08 12:43 lost+found
[19:38] <Pabix> fryguy, will try, thanks
[19:38] <ikonia> Guest85702: please show me the output of id
[19:38] <vicky_> Hi everyone, im new to ubuntu.
[19:38] <ikonia> Guest85702: then pastebin the output of "ls -la /home/john/Desktop
[19:38] <craigbass1976> fryguy, how would the command go if I wanted to fire up, say, xmms2 as bob from my terminal?
[19:38] <paul68> ikonia: this is my route info without adapting it http://paste.ubuntu.com/72491/  this is what I want to add is this correct ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/72494/   line 1 and 3 are comments
[19:39] <fryguy> craigbass1976: no idea
[19:39] <tripitakit> welcome vicky_
[19:39] <lakitu> is there an Ubuntu "safely remove" usb drive?
[19:39] <tripitakit> lakitu: unmount
[19:39] <fryguy> lakitu: right lcick on the drive and umount it
[19:39] <ikonia> paul68: I've not been following your question, so I don't know the whole situation
[19:39] <lakitu> k
[19:39] <Frogging101> Guest85702, that's my computer name
[19:39] <craigbass1976> lakitu, unmount it first.  I just pull them out
[19:39] <kho_zhi> hi all
[19:39] <kho_zhi> having sound issue on intrepid ibex
[19:39] <kho_zhi> can forward me to ubuntu sound channel?
[19:40] <bombshelter13> Hey guys, how can I make NetworkManager associate itself with my WPA2 Wifi network before a user logs into Gnome from GDM? Currently, it does not login to the Wifi until the Gnome desktop launches.
[19:40] <Frogging101> When I run a program in wine, the words on the buttons and windows are gone
[19:40] <fryguy> bombshelter13: you will need to use something other than networkmanager to do that
[19:40] <paul68> ikonia: I can connect from my 1st router to my eth0 on the server but can't connect to eth1 when I'm connected to switch behind eth1 I can connect to the server but not to eth0
[19:40] <Hoj0> frogging
[19:40] <Hoj0> are you trying to use steam>
[19:40] <Hoj0> ?
[19:40] <Frogging101> yes
[19:40] <Frogging101> steam?
[19:40] <musikgoat> AnythingJe: if ushare is running, can you tell me what following gives you:  ps aux | grep ushare
[19:40] <Frogging101> what is steam
[19:41] <Hoj0> nvm, you need to get the associated font that that program requires
[19:41] <fryguy> Frogging101: there is a font you need to install, go follow the directions on how to install steam in wine
[19:41] <Hoj0> nevermind
[19:41] <Hoj0> he isnt using steam i thought that was what he needed lol
[19:41] <Frogging101> !steam
[19:41] <Frogging101> steampowered?
[19:41] <bombshelter13> fryguy: What would you recommend using instead? I'm surprised there's no way of manipulating Network Manager from a startup script :/
[19:41] <jwtodd> hey ... i've been having trouble getting ubuntu to recognize the higher resolutions for my geforce 8800 card using the hw drivers in 8.0.4 ... thinking about trying envy. thoughts?
[19:41] <hinan> exit
[19:41] <Hoj0> nevermind frogging
[19:41] <Frogging101> fryguy: where do I find steam?
[19:41] <fryguy> bombshelter13: because networkmanager isn't running until you log in
[19:41] <Hoj0> you probably need the true type font for the program you want to use in wine
[19:42] <Frogging101> where do i get the fonts
[19:42] <fryguy> Frogging101: if you aren't trying to install steam, then ignore everything
[19:42] <Hoj0> try driverguide.com
[19:42] <AnythingJe> musikgoat: I get: dan       6984  0.0  0.0  64664  2820 pts/0    Sl+  11:50   0:00 ushare -t -w -x -f /etc/ushare.conf  I'm currently running it manually with those -t -w -x commands... also tried running at a service or manually with just -x, all have the same behavior
[19:42] <Hoj0> what program are you trying to run frogging
[19:42] <paul68> fryguy: this is my route info without adapting it http://paste.ubuntu.com/72491/  this is what I want to add is this correct ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/72494/   line 1 and 3 are comments
[19:42] <musikgoat> AnythingJe: try adding the -r command
[19:42] <Frogging101> Limewire installer
[19:43] <firefly2442> How do I turn off all logging to /var/log/  ?
[19:43] <Frogging101> It worked on my laptop
[19:43] <Hoj0> use the linux version.....
[19:43] <musikgoat> AnythingJe: sorry, no
[19:43] <fryguy> paul68: no idea. i'm not a networking engineer, and i do my networking on freebsd, not linux, so I can't offer you any meaningful advice
[19:43] <joaopinto> firefly2442, you can't
[19:43] <musikgoat> AnythingJe: it was -x that i was saying, but nevermind
[19:43] <Frogging101> It's not the one i want
[19:43] <fryguy> Frogging101: use frostwire instead
[19:43] <tripitakit> joaopinto: maybe killing logd ?
[19:43] <paul68> musikgoat: this is my route info without adapting it http://paste.ubuntu.com/72491/  this is what I want to add is this correct ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/72494/   line 1 and 3 are comments
[19:44] <Guest85702> ikonia http://paste.ubuntu.com/72499/
[19:44] <Frogging101> fryguy: I don't think it's a font issue, there are no words in the wine control panel either
[19:44] <fryguy> Frogging101: then check out the appd at www.winehq.org, or ask in #winehq
[19:44] <joaopinto> tripitakit, that will not stop all the logs, it will just stop the syslogd logs
[19:44] <firefly2442> joaopinto: hmmm, I'm trying to prevent writes to disk (it's a SSD)
[19:44] <Frogging101> fryguy: I installed and used it on my laptop
[19:44] <bombshelter13> fryguy: no way to construct an init.d script that would launch it earlier?
[19:44] <tripitakit> joaopinto: oh, ty :)
[19:44] <fryguy> bombshelter13: it's a graphical application, so no
[19:44] <joaopinto> firefly2442, you could move /var/log to a ramdrive
[19:45] <Guest85702> can't access anything under my user name
[19:45] <firefly2442> joaopinto: I have /tmp moved to a temporary ramdisk, could I move /var/log there too?
[19:45] <Frogging101> fryguy: so how do I make wine work
[19:45] <fryguy> Frogging101: check out the appd at www.winehq.org, or ask in #winehq
[19:45] <CuriosTiger> Howdy all. Has anyone tried using Enlightenment in Intrepid?
[19:45] <joaopinto> firefly2442, yes
[19:45] <fryguy> CuriosTiger: do you have a specific question?
[19:46] <FFEMTcJ> has anyone used unison? what do you think of it
[19:46] <DiiPhantom> ikonia: i did the pastebin
[19:46] <firefly2442> ok thanks :)
[19:46] <fryguy> FFEMTcJ: works fine
[19:46] <ikonia> DiiPhantom: what's the url
[19:46] <DiiPhantom> http://paste.ubuntu.com/72500/
[19:46] <bombshelter13> fryguy: I guess I'll configure GDM to auto-login and then xlock itself, then :/
[19:46] <fryguy> bombshelter13: or use something other than network manager
[19:46] <ikonia> DiiPhantom: your using vmware
[19:46] <BleSS> how to build a cd iso?
[19:46] <DiiPhantom> yea
[19:46] <paul68> musikgoat: what is your opinion please?
[19:46] <ikonia> DiiPhantom: thats why it's not seeing an nvidia card
[19:46] <fryguy> BleSS: cat /dev/cdrom > file.iso
[19:46] <ikonia> DiiPhantom: there is no direct hardware access in vmware
[19:47] <DiiPhantom> ohh i see
[19:47] <DiiPhantom> :( lol
[19:47] <fryguy> BleSS: or dd if=/dev/cdrom of=file.iso bs=1024
[19:47] <bombshelter13> fryguy: Can you recommend something I could use?
[19:47] <BleSS> fryguy: so easy??
[19:47] <ikonia> DiiPhantom: so your virtual machine can't see an nvidia video card, just a virtual card
[19:47] <PsynoKhi0> greetings
[19:47] <fryguy> bombshelter13: /etc/network/interfaces, wicd, iwconfig
[19:47] <BleSS> fryguy: thanks!
[19:47] <ikonia> DiiPhantom: 00:0f.0 VGA compatible controller: VMware Inc Abstract SVGA II Adapter
[19:47] <musikgoat> paul68: one moment
[19:47] <FFEMTcJ> fryguy: i want to keep my /home folders the same on my desktop and my laptop.. it should do that without a problem correct?
[19:47] <bombshelter13> hmm, i'll take a look at those
[19:47] <AnythingJe> musikgoat: Thanks for trying.  Guess I won't be able to watch any today.  I'll just wait for a reply to my thread... Though there were 3 or 4 other posts of people with the same issue which never got any replies :-/
[19:47] <DiiPhantom> oh ok
[19:47] <fryguy> FFEMTcJ: right
[19:47] <FFEMTcJ> ty
[19:47] <DiiPhantom> so i guess ill install it directly into the harddrive
[19:47] <DiiPhantom> :)
[19:48] <musikgoat> AnythingJe: i saw that,  i'd check around on some xbox forums too
[19:48] <Guest85702> ikonia  is it possible to just change the permissions for my desktop folder back to my user name?
[19:48] <musikgoat> AnythingJe: good luck
[19:48] <fryguy> Guest85702: chmod and chown can do that
[19:48] <AnythingJe> musikgoat: thanks :-D
[19:48] <PsynoKhi0> looking for opinions at to why ubuntuzilla can't write to .gnupg when I'm the owner of that folder, note that ls -al will only show ??? instead of privileges unless I drop a sudo in front
[19:49] <Frogging101> nobody in #winehq is answering
[19:49] <paul68> ikonia: ok
[19:49] <paul68> musikgoat: ok
[19:49] <DiiPhantom> ikonia:  oh ok, so i guess i have to install it directly into the hardrive to acually TRY ubuntu itself eh?
[19:49] <fryguy> Frogging101: so then be patient, or pursue the other option that was given to you, which is www.winehq.org
[19:49] <ikonia> DiiPhantom: if you want
[19:49] <Guest85702> u happen to know what command to use to also include all the sub-folders as well?
[19:49] <cs_student> How do I set up a program to run on start-up?
[19:49] <PsynoKhi0> cs_student: under Sessions
[19:50] <Frogging101> fryguy: okay
[19:50] <urbands> a
[19:50] <alan|> i'm trying to write a bash script that takes a command that ends up with a number and converts to to fahrenheit and for some reason i am an idiot about it
[19:50] <CuriosTiger> fryguy: Never tried forklifting out Gnome in favor of another environment before, and I'm not aware of an e-Ubuntu distro (ala Kubuntu)
[19:50] <fryguy> Guest85702: both of those command will be recursive if you specify them to be
[19:50] <CuriosTiger> fryguy: So, mainly wanted some pointers before I try it.
[19:50] <PsynoKhi0> cs_student: System > Settings > Sessions
[19:50] <CuriosTiger> (or only a "yeah I did it and it works fine"
[19:50] <fryguy> CuriosTiger: install enlightment, log out when you log back in, select the englightenment session, make it the default, and you are done
[19:50] <poppy75> how can i setup a vpn that so my remote computers can access my /media/storage directory?
[19:50] <musikgoat> paul68: from first glance, that seems correct,  lines 2 and 4, what is your route look like after adding them
[19:50] <musikgoat> ?
[19:50] <poppy75> namely windows pcs
[19:50] <mgm-> any idea why udevd is hanging on a fresh install of 8.10? I'm running the updates now
[19:50] <Guest85702> so sudo chmod 755 /home/john/Desktop  should do the trick then?
[19:51] <DiiPhantom> ikonia:  but i can still install themes without the video card drivers right?
[19:51] <jaxdahl> how can i determine whether my laptop's memory card reader is supported by ubuntu? as far as i can tell, the kernel recognizes the memory card reader when i do lspci, but nothing happens when i insert a memory card -- is it supposed to be automatic?
[19:51] <fryguy> poppy75: install something like openvpn. They provide plenty of howtos on their site for configuration
[19:51] <ikonia> DiiPhantom: the drivers are built into the kernel, so you already have them
[19:51] <PsynoKhi0> poppy75: argh no VPn, been beating my heaad on a wall half of yesterday trying to make it work
[19:51] <oleavr> anyone found a definite fix for iwlagn/4965AGN causing kernel panics when used with an N AP? installing linux-backports-modules-2.6.27-7-generic didn't seem to fix it here...
[19:51] <paul68> musikgoat: did not add them yet wanted confirmation on syntax first will be back with the output after brb
[19:51] <CuriosTiger> fryguy: I'll give it a shot. Thanks.
[19:52] <poppy75> heh PsynoKhi0 what problems are you having?
[19:52] <PsynoKhi0> poppy75: but you can check the page I used http://adventuresinswitching.blogspot.com/2007/12/ubuntu-and-microsoft-vpn-setup-or-how-i.html
[19:52] <bushwacker> Hello I have installed phpmyadmin, but I cannot access it at localhost/phpmyadmin
[19:52] <jwtod1> hey ... i just used envy to config my nvidia 8800 card and all seems well. the h/w drivers tools reflects the nvidia driver is in use. now, i'd like to up my resolution to 1680x1050 as my samsung t220 monitor supports that. ideas?
[19:52] <alan|> can anyone assist me with writing a shell script?
[19:52] <fryguy> !ask | alan|
[19:53] <cs_student> Also whats the hotkey for running a command from the terminal without keeping the terminal open?
[19:53] <bushwacker> cs_student, command &
[19:53] <droopsta915> whats the easiest way to get all media working after install. Movie, music, and pictures, etc..
[19:53] <fryguy> cs_student: nohup is the best solution
[19:53] <paul68> musikgoat: this is the result http://paste.ubuntu.com/72504/
[19:53] <fryguy> !codecs | droopsta915
[19:53] <PsynoKhi0> poppy75: I could connect but not access the remote computer, though I suspect it was a conflict in the IPs (was trying to conenct from a LAN to another LAN, both had 192.168.x.x setups)
[19:53] <bushwacker> so why can't I see phpmyadmin?
[19:53] <alan|> i'm trying to write a shell script that takes "nvidia-settings -q [gpu:0]/GPUCoreTemp | grep "Attribute" | sed -e "s/.*: //g" -e "s/\.//g"" and then changes it to fahrenheit
[19:53] <alan|> via script
[19:53] <poppy75> i see
[19:53] <musikgoat> paul68: running aft for 5 min, brb
[19:53] <musikgoat> *afk
[19:53] <Hasone> I downloaded a folder a friend sent me, and when I opened it it had "QX" added to the end of every file. what would I put into the command line to remove it from multiple files at once?
[19:53] <paul68> musikgoat: ok
[19:54] <Hasone> *filename
[19:54] <lakitu> hey, do i unmount a drive before running fsck on it?
[19:54] <fryguy> alan|: bash supports basic math operators, and you have access to bc if you need it
[19:54] <lakitu> & what are the advised arguments i need to pass it?
[19:54] <fryguy> lakitu: use the umount command
[19:54] <lakitu> fryguy: ok
[19:54] <alan|> fryguy: so do i just use that command as a variable ?
[19:54] <fryguy> alan|: or store the results of that command into a variable
[19:55] <PsynoKhi0> anyway... who's been using ubuntuzilla here?
[19:55] <alan|> fryguy: i wish i knew how to use that
[19:55] <fryguy> alan|: there are plenty of introductory texts to bash scripting available.  Would be worthwhile to check some out
[19:55] <Billenium> For some reason... the bottom bar has gone crazy, there are pale white lines, and i can't open anything...
[19:55] <manzur> restart it
[19:56] <bushwacker> any ideas?
[19:56] <Billenium> and i cannot click anything on the top bar either.
[19:56] <Billenium> :|
[19:56] <tripitakit> Billenium: restart the session..
[19:56] <alan|> fryguy: i've been attempting to read through them but for some reason i haven't really been able to find anything super informative for my particular application
[19:56] <Billenium> tripitakit: how?
[19:56] <fryguy> alan|: VAR=`yourcommandhere` will store the result of command into VAR
[19:56] <Billenium> like log-out/restart computer?
[19:56] <tripitakit> Billenium: control-alt-backspace
[19:57] <fryguy> Billenium: ctrl-alt-backspace to kill X11
[19:57] <Billenium> will everything i have open still be there? I have a feeling it wont, and i really need everything that is open... like unsaved things etc.
[19:57] <jwtod1> ideas as to how best to crank up my resolution from the default 1280x1024 to 1680x1050?
[19:57] <fryguy> Billenium: no
[19:57] <tripitakit> Billenium: no it wil be lost
[19:57] <fryguy> jwtod1: edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf to have the settings you need
[19:58] <Billenium> this sucks...
[19:58] <jwtod1> fryguy: thx
[19:58] <Fermio91> someone can help me to resolve a problem with WoW in Wine: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=983262
[19:58] <joaopinto> !wine | Fermio91
[19:58]  * Billenium cries
[19:58] <paul68> fryguy: this is the result http://paste.ubuntu.com/72504/   is this correct?
[19:58] <tripitakit> Billenium: control-alt-f1
[19:58] <tripitakit> Billenium: then kill and restart gnome-panel
[19:58] <fryguy> paul68: like i said before, i can't help you anymore
[19:59] <BleSS> fryguy: when is created a cd iso image, is there any difference when is used bs=1024 and when is used its value by default?
[19:59] <tripitakit> Billenium: then control-alt-f7 to get back to x
[19:59] <paul68> fryguy: np
[19:59] <fryguy> BleSS: one takes a lot more cpu than the other
[19:59] <BleSS> ok, thx
[19:59] <musikgoat> #ubuntu-networking
[19:59] <alan|> fryguy: thats what i've done, but i think its not using the entire command.. just "nvidia-settings" when i put quotes around it it doesn't work either
[19:59] <Fermio91> joaopinto: please read before post...
[20:00] <fryguy> alan|: use `, not '
[20:00] <paul68> musikgoat: thanks
[20:00] <BleSS> fryguy: I'm supposed that with bs=1024 takes less cpu
[20:00] <joaopinto> Fermio91, we don't support wine here, please read the bot suggestions, thanks
[20:00] <tripitakit> Billenium: to kill gnome-panel use  killall gnome-panelm then gnome-panel to restart
[20:00] <alan|> fryguy: you're a genius, it works
[20:00] <alan|> fryguy: thank you
[20:00] <paul68> musikgoat: I am the only person there
[20:00] <musikgoat> paul68: no, i was checking if it exists, which it does not
[20:00] <kho_zhi> haiz...
[20:00] <paul68> musikgoat: ok
[20:00] <kho_zhi> ubuntu intrepid ibex doesnt work on my laptop
[20:00] <russell__> hello everyone: is there an irc chan for help with 'C' programming?
[20:00] <kho_zhi> sound issue
[20:01] <kho_zhi> can help...
[20:01] <jwtod1> fryguy: suggestions/pointer to adding a 1680x1050 modeline to xorg.confg? how to gen that line?
[20:01] <paul68> musikgoat: still can't ping the other eth cards :-(
[20:01] <fryguy> russell__: ##c
[20:01] <musikgoat> paul68: it was a typo, heh, after setting that,  what are your tests showing you now?
[20:01] <fryguy> jwtod1: no idea
[20:01] <paul68> musikgoat: this is the result http://paste.ubuntu.com/72504/
[20:01] <musikgoat> paul68: can you summarize what is working and what is not
[20:01] <jwtod1> k
[20:01] <russell__> fryguy: I tried to join but it says I am banned...wtf?
[20:02] <Jordan_U> russell__: Try identifying / registering your nick
[20:02] <russell__> jordan_U: i'm a real irc noob, how do I do that sir?
[20:03] <fryguy> russell__: /msg nickserv help
[20:03] <paul68> musikgoat: ping to 192.168.0.10 from router 192.168.0.1 is working
[20:03] <illissius> Q: in a VT, in env | grep -i lang I have LANG=en_US.UTF-8, but if I do the same in konsole in KDE, I only have LANGUAGE=en_US, which means my KDE session isn't using UTF8
[20:03] <illissius> any idea why this might be & how to fix it?
[20:03] <billenium> okay... i did CRTL+ALT+backspace, then i cannot login. It is just a blank tan screen. I tried 5 times.
[20:04] <billenium> Now im in failsafe terminal.
[20:04] <paul68> musikgoat: ping from router 192,168.0.1 towards 192,168.1.22 is not working
[20:04] <DiiPhantom> ikonia: Where can i go to install themes?
[20:05] <fryguy> DiiPhantom: put them into ~/.themes
[20:06] <DiiPhantom> where i do though? i know of gnome-look but its like people just go and dump things there, i dont see something like an application for them
[20:06] <Cloffy> Hi there, I have a couple of ubuntu problems I wanted to check out
[20:06] <musikgoat> paul68: and what is the output of ifconfig?
[20:06] <DiiPhantom> whats gtk1 and gtk2?
[20:06] <fryguy> DiiPhantom: you download a theme, put it into ~/.themes
[20:06] <bruenig> they are tool kits, one came before the other one, guess which
[20:06] <DiiPhantom> ok
[20:07] <Cloffy> I re-graded from Kubuntu, and now my mouse pointers are screwed up and changing from what they were in Kubuntu to like this Ubuntu theme
[20:07] <manzur> who knbows in here
[20:07] <ice-man> any user of anjuta here?
[20:07] <manzur> what is expected
[20:07] <manzur> for jaunty
[20:07] <manzur> ?
[20:07] <fryguy> manzur: #ubuntu+1
[20:07] <Cloffy> this room is too busy :-/
[20:07] <michalski-bj> hello can? anyone recommend a graphical GPG manager
[20:07] <un> Cloffy: plenty of other 'less vague rooms for your topic'
[20:08] <PsynoKhi0> looking for opinions at to why ubuntuzilla can't write to .gnupg when I'm the owner of that folder, note that ls -al will only show ??? instead of privileges unless I drop a sudo in front
[20:08] <bcurtiswx> hey all, in intrepid how do i set my hostname and domainname,
[20:08] <Cloffy> un, yeah?
[20:08] <un> Cloffy: are you having a problem with ubuntu?
[20:08] <Cloffy> yupp
[20:08] <Cloffy> un, yes, I am
[20:08] <un> bcurtiswx: the file /etc/hostname
[20:09] <bcurtiswx> un, ty
[20:09] <un> Cloffy: what's your problem?
[20:09] <PsynoKhi0> bcurtiswx: /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts I think
[20:09] <un> bcurtiswx: PsynoKhi0 is right
[20:09] <PsynoKhi0> bcurtiswx: changing them can make you lose sudo though afaik, be careful
[20:09] <Cloffy> un, I have several. The first would be minor but irritating: the mouse pointers keep changing among two themes. And the application for setting them doesn't really work.
[20:10] <russell__> how do I log in to add name to my account?
[20:10] <bcurtiswx> PsynoKhi0, really.. lose sudo... seems odd
[20:10] <xcerca> anybody know how i can transfer pics and movies to my psp in ubuntu ?
[20:10] <un> Cloffy: when the pointer changes like that, it is due to the program that's controlling it (which might give it an X11 pointer, a KDE pointer, or a GNOME pointer)
[20:10] <PsynoKhi0> bcurtiswx: didn't happen to me but read about it a couple of times
[20:10] <un> Cloffy: try changing your mouse themes across all environments
[20:11] <droopsta915> should i disable proprietary drivers?
[20:11] <fryguy> no
[20:11] <Cloffy> un, like... how? I mean... in, say, skype it changes to a KDE theme... but how can I stop that?
[20:11] <un> droopsta915: not unless you want some of your hardware to stop working :)
[20:11] <droopsta915> fryguy: is that for me?
[20:11] <bcurtiswx> PsynoKhi0, may i pm you?
[20:11] <fryguy> droopsta915: yes
[20:11] <droopsta915> ok thanks
[20:11] <Cloffy> un, I re-graded from Kubuntu to Ubuntu
[20:12] <un> Cloffy: ccsm (compizconfig-settingsmanager) can set a universal mouse theme I think...
[20:12] <Cloffy> un, ok, let's check it out
[20:12] <PsynoKhi0> bcurtiswx: at your own risks
[20:12] <un> Cloffy: systemsettings, for kde mouse, gnome-appearances, for gnome mouse, xfce4-control-panel, for X11 mouse
[20:12] <fryguy> .Xdefaults can as well
[20:12] <musikgoat> Cloffy: how did you "re-grade"
[20:12] <PsynoKhi0> j/k :D
[20:13] <No1> xcerca ???
[20:13] <Cloffy> musikgoat, apt-get install ubuntu-desktop, then apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop
[20:13] <musikgoat> !puregnome | Cloffy This may help
[20:13] <un> Cloffy: fwd: musikgoat
[20:14] <\Kira> my ubutnu server isnt recognizing anything when I put a disk in. I know the machine tends to not automount things... How could I mount the cd?
[20:14] <daMaestro> w00t
[20:14] <Cloffy> musikgoat, ubottu, ok, I'll check it out - but I got rid of all KDE I could in Synaptics (except for some important looking libraries)
[20:14] <fryguy> \Kira: use the mount command
[20:15] <daMaestro> so there is a new driver for the BCM4328 ... what's it's name/upstream?
[20:15] <un> \Kira: sudo mount /cdrom
[20:15] <michalski-bj> can anyone here point me in the direction of a good gui for gpg key management
[20:15] <Cloffy> musikgoat, ubottu, un: I don't want to get rid of some of my KDE applications though :p
[20:15] <\Kira> fryguy: yeah, I know that part, but I dont know the device location
[20:15] <un> michalski-bj: kde-look.org: qgpg
[20:15] <fryguy> \Kira: /dev/cdrom, though it should be in your fstab so you don't need to specify it
[20:15] <michalski-bj> un: thank you
[20:15] <\Kira> un: mount: special device /dev/scd0 does not exist.. It doesnt seem to find it
[20:16] <musikgoat> Cloffy: oh, well, that command removes a ton of un-needed stuffs,  skip what you wish
[20:16] <un> Cloffy: then use compiz to set a universal mouse theme, or the applications i noted above...
[20:16] <\Kira> fryguy: /dev/cdrom doesnt exist
[20:16] <musikgoat> the libs and stuff are what could fix the mouse issue
[20:16] <daMaestro> is it just supported by the b43/fwcutter driver now?
[20:16] <Cloffy> un: yeah, I'm looking for it :)
[20:16] <un> \Kira: sounds like a hardware issue? didn't wiggle free did it?
[20:16] <fryguy> \Kira: look at dmesg and /var/log/messages and make sure the cdrom was actually detected
[20:16] <musikgoat> Cloffy: un's advice may be the easiest solution
[20:16] <\Kira> fryguy: okay
[20:17] <rien> hi guys, i've got a really strange problem with cups and windows. i can print from windows using a cups printer, but it doesnt work from word2007
[20:17] <\Kira> un: well, I have 3 different drives that ive tried on two different computers, and neither work, mabye Its something im doing... Im gonna look at dmesg, one sec
[20:17] <rien> i mean, i can print the testpage, from acrobat reader, from an editor but not from word 2007
[20:18] <musikgoat> paul68: did you get things worked out?  i was waiting to see your ifconfig to confirm your eth0 and eth1 info
[20:18] <Cloffy> musikgoat, un: I double checked but am still unable to find how to change the pointers in CompizConfig :-/
[20:18] <lorenzo> hi, some of my applets disappeared from the icon tray. Like the network manager, and even deluge, amule, rhythmbox wont appear up there. how do i fix it please? thanks a lot
[20:18] <un> rien: cuz word 2007 sucks... :? i dunno tho, i just had to say that...
[20:19] <rien> un: lol thanks for the highlight -_-
[20:19] <paul687> musikgoat: lost connection can you please post your remarks again thanks
[20:19] <un> Cloffy: google it, i think it's under the General Settings page... you have to know the X11 mouse theme name...
[20:19] <defo_> hi
[20:20] <Cloffy> un, oh, yeah, I remembered - I did that.... didn't work
[20:20] <\Kira> un, fryguy: I didn't find anything in dmesg that resembled a cd drive, but I dont know exactly were to look. I think this is a problem ill try on the forums, because its been bothering me for the longest time and I havnt gotten around the fixing it.
[20:20] <musikgoat> paul687: paste your ifconfig output
[20:20] <\Kira> un, fryguy: thanks for the help
[20:20] <defo_> how do I mount a .bin CD rom image, it has no .cue file, i've tried to mount it with loopback but it says the filesystem is not iso9660 :(
[20:20] <fryguy> \Kira: is the drive detected in BIOS?
[20:20] <paul687> musikgoat: from the server or my laptop?
[20:20] <un> Cloffy: that's wierd, might have typed it wrong, it's case-space-special charachter sensitive, for some reason... try the other apps i mentioned, they make it easier...
[20:20] <\Kira> fryguy: well, the server is headless, so I cant currently look
[20:21] <musikgoat> paul687: from the server/router
[20:21] <fryguy> \Kira: no serial console that can look at the bios?
[20:21] <un> defo_: try poweriso...
[20:21] <\Kira> fryguy: I wouldn't know, I dont know anything about serial consoles
[20:21] <Jordan_U> lorenzo: Try right clicking the pannel -> Add to pannel -> Notification area
[20:21] <Cloffy> un, I did just now, I typed in the right name, hit Enter, the pointer changed in that window, but moving out of the window it changed back again
[20:22] <Cloffy> un, maybe I just need a compiz --restart
[20:22] <paul687> musikgoat: http://paste.ubuntu.com/72519/
[20:22] <un> Cloffy: yea, i dunno, that's wierd, might be an artifact from your upgrade... my mouse theme is universal...
[20:22] <un> Cloffy: no compiz --restart wont help...
[20:22] <Cloffy> un: oh, ok
[20:23] <un> Cloffy: maybe an X11 restart? but i doubt it... restart X11 with Ctrl+Alt+Bkspc
[20:23] <Cloffy> un: I have had several restarts since the install - no good
[20:23] <lorenzo> Jordan_U, awesome, that fixed it! thanks a lot!
[20:24] <Cloffy> un: besides, it looks like it's half this theme half that
[20:24] <Jordan_U> lorenzo: np
[20:24] <musikgoat> paul687: is this machine intending to be a bridge?
[20:25] <Cloffy> un: just checked: hovering over OpenOffice's menu and title bar - the pointers change accordingly
[20:25] <Oprtz> somebody please have a look on the link, why i get this error, i can use my internal camera with ekiga but... http://unhabitat.org.pk/hr
[20:25] <fryguy> musikgoat: it wouldn't be a bridge, it would be a router
[20:25] <Oprtz> somebody please have a look on the link, why i get this error, i can use my internal camera with ekiga but... http://img404.imageshack.us/my.php?image=camoramawm2.jpg
[20:25] <krypt0h> hi. i managed to get the 8.04 alternate cd on a usb drive, and it boots from it
[20:25] <paul687> musikgoat: no the purpose is that I connect from lan towards my server and practise with iptables
[20:26] <musikgoat> fryguy: ok, i'm just wondering why he isn't using a general .1 addess for the lan side
[20:26] <krypt0h> the only problem is that the installer cannot detect a cdrom and the installer fails
[20:26] <paul687> musikgoat: the layout of my network is as follows isp router eth0 server eth1 switch with wifi
[20:26] <fryguy> musikgoat: because he has no idea what he's doing
[20:26] <musikgoat> fryguy: fair enough,  paul687 ok, thanks, one sec
[20:27] <musikgoat> paul687: is eth0 and eth1 static?
[20:27] <paul687> fryguy: I know I'm not that smart but I'm trying to figure this out so bare with me
[20:27] <fryguy> paul687: and you have your kernel configured to do packet routing on eth1 right? and a dhcp client to hand out address to devices connected on the eth1 switch
[20:28] <paul687> musikgoat: hold on
[20:28] <krypt0h> anyone know how i can get the installer to look on the usb drive for the files rather than a cdrom?
[20:28] <musikgoat> if so, for your sake and others, set eth1 to 192.168.1.1,  fryguy dhcpd doesn't really have to be running
[20:28] <paul687> fryguy: dhcp is configured
[20:28] <crazy3k> Does anyone know how do I know the IP of the router I'm connected to? I want to access it's configuration via web.
[20:29] <musikgoat> fryguy: at least to get things started
[20:29] <Cloffy> OK, next problem - is there a way to have Compiz running, but still to have an old-school Alt-Tab without any darn thumbnails?
[20:29] <Nubbie> krypt0h: download an ibex net installer
[20:29] <fryguy> Cloffy: ccsm can configure pretty much every aspect of compiz that you want
[20:29] <No1> crazy3k :- portforwarding.com
[20:29] <Cloffy> fryguy: yeah, I know, but tweeking that never solved the problem
[20:30] <fryguy> Cloffy: then you are out of luck
[20:30] <PiraTaG> hi
[20:30] <PiraTaG> hola
[20:30] <PiraTaG> xD
[20:30] <Cloffy> fryguy, the thumbnails won't go away :)
[20:30] <paul687> musikgoat: eth0 and eth1 are static
[20:30] <Cloffy> fryguy, and turning the crap off leaves me with no Alt-Tab
[20:30] <fryguy> Cloffy: then you are out of luck
[20:30] <krypt0h> Nubbie: whats that? isn't there an option i can pass at boot time?
[20:30] <PiraTaG> como instalo el efecto berly en mi ubuntu?
[20:30] <enterusername> hi
[20:30] <fryguy> !es | PiraTaG
[20:30] <enterusername> does anyone here use CCONTROL and ubuntu with distcc"
[20:30] <jannott> Phuck! I just deleted /boot folder :O
[20:31] <paul687> musikgoat:just a remark if I put eth1 to 192.168.1.1 doesn4't this interfear with the wifi that has as gw 192.168.1.1?
[20:31] <fryguy> paul687: right
[20:32] <poppy75> hey, how can i list all the mysql user accounts?
[20:32] <musikgoat> paul687: the wifi is not giving out IP's is it?  you have it set to AP mode?
[20:32] <fryguy> poppy75: ask in #mysql
[20:32] <poppy75> fryguy i did but noone answered
[20:32] <un> Cloffy: disable all the switcher plugins in compiz (ring, switcher, box switch, etc...)
[20:32] <fryguy> poppy75: that doesn't give you an excuse to ask in here
[20:32] <paul687> musikgoat: true but since the default gw is 192.168.1.1 I'm getting in trouble right
[20:32] <DIFH-iceroot> poppy75: just select users from the mysql.user table
[20:32] <musikgoat> paul687: you don't have to have the eth1 be .1 but in normal conventions, you set the gw for your lan (eth1) to .1
[20:32] <kri> do i have to run gconf-editor as root to get the changes to apply?
[20:33] <Cloffy> un, that leaves me with no Alt-Tab at all
[20:33] <krypt0h> ok, so when i boot from the USB drive, what do i have to do to get it to not check the cdrom drive and just load everything off the usb drive?
[20:33] <poppy75> fryguy yes because noone ever asks about applications in here
[20:33] <No1> !rules
[20:33] <un> Cloffy: that's not good, gnome, or kde should take back control of those keys... you have a screwed up installation somehow...
[20:33] <K-Z> hay un canal de ubuntu en español?
[20:34] <Jordan_U> !en | K-Z
[20:34] <Cloffy> un: I've seen people say the same thing on the net
[20:34] <K-Z> thanks ubottu
[20:34] <Jordan_U> !es | K-Z
[20:34] <vocal9> hello guys, i have a folder on my desktop which i can't delete, i've restarted etc nothing works, when i right click delete isnt there, its as if the folder doesnt exist but its stil there how can i get rid of it??
[20:34] <No1> can i ask what are the rules for the help channel please ?
[20:34] <K-Z> ok und
[20:34] <fryguy> vocal9: what is the directory
[20:35] <un> Cloffy: say what? you install is flipped up, or their alt-tab won't go back to regular?
[20:35] <musikgoat> paul687: what do you mean the def gw is 1.1,  on what device?  the wifi should just be a switch on your lan, allowing the wireless and wired lan devices (all in the .1.x range) to talk, and all internet traffic should head for the def gw (eth1), which "should" be .1.1
[20:35] <e451l1> what shall i switch off or comment so as ubuntu will stop to write something to my disk?
[20:35] <vocal9> fryguy, directory is /Desktop/
[20:35] <cellofellow> I'm trying to set up a manual IP address for my eth0 card (still use NetworkManager to manage wlan0). I've set it up but I get "Don't seem to have all the variables for eth0/inet." when I try to bring it up.
[20:35] <fryguy> vocal9: no the directory that you are trying to delete
[20:35] <vocal9> Xaphire (it was a theme i downloaded)
[20:35] <Cloffy> un: unchecking the compiz switchers leaves people without alt-tab
[20:35] <Cloffy> un: looks like a bug
[20:35] <fryguy> vocal9: if you open up a terminal, is it there when you ls ~/Desktop
[20:36] <un> Cloffy: it goes back to kde's on mine...
[20:36]  * fryguy doesnt' miss gnome or compiz at all..
[20:36] <vocal9> fryguy,  yes it is there, it is actually in purple color.
[20:36] <fryguy> vocal9: what happens if you rm it there
[20:36] <Cloffy> un: maybe it's GNOME/Ubuntu then
[20:36] <un> fryguy: yeah, i don't use either now... just kde4's compositing
[20:36] <paul687> musikgoat: ok changing them now
[20:36] <musikgoat> paul687: kk
[20:36] <un> Cloffy: dunno... never happened to me...
[20:36] <fryguy> i don't use kde either
[20:36] <tadas_> mint 6 is out
[20:37] <un> tadas_: ahh? when did this happen?
[20:37] <e451l1> why does xorg-dev + ati proprietary druver = shaded windows of graphical applications?
[20:37] <vocal9> fryguy,  rm: cannot remove `Xaphire': Is a directory
[20:37] <tadas_> rc1 only
[20:37] <fryguy> vocal9: rm -rf
[20:37] <cellofellow> sudo ifup eth0Don't seem to have all the variables for eth0/inet.
[20:37] <cellofellow> What's that mean?
[20:37] <paul687> musikgoat: new interfaces file http://paste.ubuntu.com/72526/
[20:37] <fryguy> cellofellow: need to configure /etc/network/interfaces most likely
[20:37] <vocal9> vocal9,  works!! how come it didn't delete normally?
[20:38] <Cloffy> un: thanks... this means I'll try to live with my problems till the next reinstall :) Maybe I will dare to move to Debian some day
[20:38] <cellofellow> fryguy: http://rafb.net/p/wUBfUn49.html
[20:38] <majnoon> how force disk check on next boot??
[20:38] <cellofellow> fryguy: looks ok to me.
[20:38] <musikgoat> ok, so can your lan hit the server, and beyond?
[20:38] <fryguy> cellofellow: netmaks
[20:38] <musikgoat> paul687: ^^
[20:38] <cellofellow> fryguy: ok, thanks :)
[20:39] <SANiK> Hello - would any of you know if there exists an AMD Ubuntu live CD that looks like Mac OS X
[20:39] <SANiK> I do know one can get Ubuntu to look like OS X, but I'm wondering if there's a premade live CD
[20:39] <dr_willis> SANiK,  one was on 'distrowatch' just the other day.. not 64bit.. but it sure tried to look like OS-X
[20:40] <majnoon> how force disk check on next boot??
[20:40] <paul687> musikgoat: done that but still no go on pinging from 192.168.0.1 to 192.168.1.1
[20:40] <fryguy> SANiK: there is not, at least nothing officially sanctioned
[20:40] <dr_willis> SANiK,  and its not 'official' :) and was 8.04 not 8.10 release based also.. but i did work
[20:40] <un> Cloffy: no... debian isn't what you want if you didn't get the mouse pointer thing...
[20:40] <dr_willis> SANiK,  i think however it defaulted to german. :)
[20:40] <tadas_> dreamlinux tried to copy X. with Xfce
[20:40] <musikgoat> paul687: is that on the server, or from another device in the .0.x pool?
[20:41] <_mortal> hi, Is there a good driver for WinModems?
[20:41] <un> Cloffy: maybe mint, or partition /home and / and /usr separate, that way you can change systems, but not settings, or lose your files...
[20:41] <dpick> is there a way to change to directory with a space in it with mc?
[20:41] <Cloffy> un: dunno, this is some kind of a smart bug that got it's way in while switching GUI's
[20:41] <dr_willis> SANiK,  comfusion  	ComFusion is an Ubuntu-based live DVD featuring out-of-the-box support for a variety of Compiz Fusion effects and a Mac OS X-like user interface.
[20:41] <paul687> musikgoat: from laptop on 192.168.0.x pool
[20:41] <Commie_Cary> !ot | Commie_Cary
[20:42] <GSMX> what do you people think of songbird?
[20:42] <paul687> musikgoat: should I do a reboot?
[20:42] <fryguy> GSMX: it's an application that plays music, like dozens of others available
[20:42] <Annirak> Hi, I have a clean install of 8.10-server amd64.  The CPU fan has been running at 100% since I installed  and it's driving me crazy.  The BIOS was not controlling the fan properly, but I figured that Ubuntu should be able to do the job.  How can I get this fan under control?
[20:42] <musikgoat> paul687:  PM ok?
[20:42] <paul687> musikgoat: ok
[20:42] <Cloffy> un: but are the settings that universal? won't different distributions have different... ideas about where things should be?
[20:42] <Cloffy> un: ok, that was a silly question :p
[20:43] <GSMX> fryguy: i know, but are there any must-have feautures rhythmbox or banshee don't have?
[20:43] <fryguy> GSMX: no idea. try it out and see if you prefer it over other players
[20:43] <dpick> GSMX: its pretty buggy, and doesn't really any features amorak doesn't
[20:44] <dpick> GSMX: it just looks like itunes
[20:44] <GSMX> i saw it's not in the normal repos :/
[20:44] <GSMX> they refer to getdeb.com
[20:44] <Jordan_U> Cloffy: There are relatively few actual differences between distributions, they run almost all the same software with minor differences in version / patches
[20:44] <fryguy> Jordan_U: i would offer a differing opinion to that
[20:45] <Cloffy> Jordan_U: yeah, I sorta realize that. I was just wondering about, say GUI settings...
[20:45] <rdw200169_> GSMX: they just released a new beta, it's pretty interesting
[20:45] <owen1> how to install only the minimum when using aptitude install?
[20:45] <meoblast001> hi
[20:45] <Jordan_U> Cloffy: Gnome is Gnome, Compiz is Compiz.
[20:45] <Neodemi> has anyone here ever successfully used gnomoradio/
[20:46] <meoblast001> i have a hardy haron ISO.. how do i use it as an upgrade medium wihout burning it?
[20:46] <rdw200169_> GSMX: if you just get the tarball, it will run from the expanded tarball without any 'make'
[20:46] <vicky_> does anyone know the name of that tool that reads broken partitions and recovers files? Its like disk tools
[20:46] <fryguy> meoblast001: mount it on loopback device
[20:46] <rdw200169_> GSMX: it's a good way to see if you want it or not
[20:46] <meoblast001> fryguy: how
[20:46] <Jack_Sparrow> meoblast001 you dont unless it is the server edition that you have
[20:46] <GSMX> rdw200169_: that's how i came there :P but if dpick says it has a itunes like interface, i'm not going to try it, itunes sucks
[20:46] <fryguy> meoblast001: using the mount command, read the manpage
[20:46] <meoblast001> ok
[20:46] <Cloffy> Jordan_U:  but evidently I have run into some compiz problems while switching from KDE to GNOME
[20:46] <meoblast001> and its alternative
[20:47] <rdw200169_> GSMX: the best 'music' player i've used is foobar2000, using wine, it's not without it's difficulties, though, getting working straight in linux
[20:47] <fryguy> i use foobar2000 as well, but in windows, not via wine
[20:47] <enterusername> does anyone use CCONTROL in compilign
[20:47] <enterusername> i cant get it to work its saying Failed to create pipe:24
[20:47] <dpick> GSMX: foobar2000 is awesome, its what i use on windows, i use moc (music on cosole) in linux
[20:47] <Jack_Sparrow> meoblast001 if the disk is alt then you can add it as a source and upgrade
[20:48] <meoblast001> ok
[20:48] <meoblast001> but its not a disk... its an ISO
[20:48] <meoblast001> i dont have any more blank cd's
[20:48] <rdw200169_> dpick: GSMX; well it's possible to use it in ubuntu ;)
[20:48] <Jordan_U> !iso | meoblast001
[20:48] <Jack_Sparrow> meoblast001 you can mount an iso, but way easier to spend a nickel and burn a cd
[20:48] <dminor_> wadddup!
[20:48] <fryguy> meoblast001: why not just upgrade through the upgrade manager and download packages, are you worried about bandwidth usage or something?
[20:48] <enterusername> where can i find documentation on cc?
[20:48] <dpick> rdw200169: i tried it via wine, i just don't really like using wine
[20:49] <GSMX> wine always has some kind of buggy feel
[20:49] <dminor_> does anyone know how to revoke execute privelages?
[20:49] <fryguy> dminor_: chmod -x
[20:49] <dminor_> i mean for an entire user
[20:49] <fryguy> dminor_: not possible
[20:49] <meoblast001> fryguy: i hate having to download a lot of data and slow down my internet connection
[20:49] <rdw200169_> dpick: GSMX, like i said, it's not without it's difficulties
[20:49] <dminor_> i thought maybe you could give them aliases for what they need to run
[20:49] <dminor_> someone said you could
[20:50] <fryguy> dminor_: then you would need to execute the contents of those aliases
[20:50] <erUSUL> dminor_: disable the account.
[20:50] <fryguy> dminor_: and you would need to execute a shell
[20:50] <rdw200169_> dpick: GSMX, regardless, in my perspective, it was worth it
[20:50] <dminor_> ?
[20:50] <triphoppa> hello
[20:50] <triphoppa> I registered this nick but I cant speak in the ##C chan how do I speak?
[20:50] <rdw200169_> dpick: GSMX, on top of everything, foobar is by far the fastest at scanning a collection
[20:51] <erUSUL> dminor_: if the user can not execute anything the account/computer is useless
[20:51] <dminor_> you can do this in windows
[20:51] <GSMX> rdw200169_: true
[20:51] <dminor_> well in windows there are parental controls
[20:51] <fryguy> dminor_: well you can't do it in linux
[20:51] <dminor_> you can disable all programs but the ones that you want the user to run
[20:51] <dminor_> in vista at least
[20:51] <rdw200169_> dpick GSMX, but exaile and songbird are picking up quick
[20:52] <triphoppa> how do you "speak" in another chan?
[20:52] <dminor_> what irc client?
[20:52] <meoblast001> uhhhh software sources manager cant find the new cd
[20:52] <fryguy> !upgrade | meoblast001
[20:53] <triphoppa> xchat
[20:54] <dminor_> sorry no idea, did you try /join ing a channel?
[20:54] <dminor_> like /join #linux
[20:54] <triphoppa> I'm in the chan but I cant speak
[20:54] <dminor_> i use esc + 1,2,3
[20:54] <seronis> can someone refer me to a good irc client for ubuntu that lets you turn off all the stupid system messages and supports ctrl+tab for switching between channels ?
[20:54] <dminor_> to switch windows
[20:55] <meoblast001> i did that
[20:55] <dminor_> seronis, irssi is good, but like i said you have to use esc + 1,2,3 for swithcing channels
[20:55] <meoblast001> and it doenst prompt me to upgrade
[20:55] <meoblast001> software sources manager cant find the cd
[20:55] <fryguy> dminor_: or alt, or ctrl-n ctrl-p
[20:55] <fryguy> dminor_: or alt + arrow keys
[20:55] <dminor_> oh nice
[20:55] <dminor_> yep
[20:56] <dminor_> :)
[20:56] <simon_b> can someone look at the http://pastebin.ca/1257170 ? is this response OK for an 5.1 sound card?!
[20:56] <meoblast001> ok now its working
[20:56] <simon_b> because on another 7.1 system i get http://pastebin.ca/1257171
[20:56] <Caithness> my GPT is messed up.  the linux partition is labeled as an EFI boot partition. can anyone help me fix it, and also get rid of the MBR?
[20:57] <triphoppa> ##C :Please register with services and use the IDENTIFY command (/msg nickserv help) to speak in this channel: how do I do this?
[20:57] <webnewsreader> Hi, I get an error booting by pxe img with ubuntu 8.04. - this kernel requires the following features not present on the CPU: 0:6 - It's a Intel M 1.4
[20:57] <fryguy> triphoppa: follow the directions given (/msg nickserv help)
[20:57] <holotone> ust enabled the proprietary nvidia drivers on the new install of ibex on my (gui) server, and all I get after the ubuntu "loading" graphic is a thin 1 or 2 px line at the top of the screeen
[20:58] <holotone> hear the login screen sound
[20:58] <fryguy> holotone: so then stsop using the new drivers
[20:58] <triphoppa> fryguy: I have but I must be doing something wrong
[20:58] <holotone> and the thin 1px line is the same color as the login screen background
[20:58] <holotone> fryguy: how can I get in and disable them? I can't log in!@
[20:58] <maty> how do you set
[20:58] <dminor_> how can i change the default xterminal into xterm?
[20:58] <maty> -rwsr-sr-x  permissions on something
[20:58] <holotone> it's almost like my screen reslolution is set to 1280x1
[20:58] <fryguy> holotone: boot from cd, go to one of the 6 other virtual terminals, or use the failsafe login option in your session manager
[20:59] <fryguy> triphoppa: ....
[20:59] <holotone> fryguy: how do I do get to failsafe login
[20:59] <fryguy> triphoppa: /msg nickserv help, follow the directions about how to use the identify command
[20:59] <Caithness> when i open gparted, the only option i can find is to create a partition table, but that says it will erase the entire disk
[20:59] <fryguy> holotone: it's in the session menu when you first log in
[20:59] <holotone> fryguy: I can't see the login screen, it's only 1px tall!
[20:59] <fryguy> holotone: so then use one of the other options presented
[20:59] <dminor_> link it to x-terminal-terminal-emulator?
[20:59] <holotone> I see the ubuntu "loading" screen just fine
[20:59] <holotone> fryguy: crud, don't have a livecd, left it at work
[20:59] <dminor_> er.. no that is already linked, dman
[21:00] <fryguy> holotone: so then use one of the other 6 virtual terminals
[21:00] <fryguy> holotone: i presented you with 3 options
[21:00] <maty> can someone tell me how to set -rwsr-sr-x  permissions on something
[21:00] <holotone> fryguy: ooh, right - What should I do once I have one of the virtual terminals up?
[21:00] <maty> 3,0 can someone tell me how to set -rwsr-sr-x  permissions on something
[21:00] <fryguy> holotone: edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf, specifically find an older version and use that
[21:00] <fryguy> maty: use the chmod command
[21:00] <triphoppa> fryguy: You are already logged in as triphoppa: that is the message I get
[21:01] <sreta> \nick Sreta
[21:01] <holotone> fryguy: thanks, I'll give it a shot
[21:01] <maty>  but i dont understand the three lots of rw rw rw
[21:01] <fryguy> maty: the manpage does a good job of describing permission octets
[21:01] <Stalker72> When I try to install Ubuntu restricted extras, I get a message saying "Cannot install 'ubuntu-restricted-extras'. If I write "apt-cache rdepends ubuntu-restricted-extras" in Terminal, it tells me "|non-free-codecs". What do I have to do?
[21:02] <robertolier> shut up jaggie
[21:02] <robertolier> hehehe
[21:02] <maty> grr ok can't you just tell me then ill read after i need to do a quick fix here i changed some permissions on my network harddrive and had to plug it directly into a comp
[21:02] <robertolier> k
[21:02] <webnewsreader> Any help to run drbl on client Intel M ?
[21:02] <le000> hi, i cannot run a program. It says it doesnt exist but it does exist...!
[21:02] <fryguy> maty: i did tell you, it's in the manpage for chmod
[21:02] <fryguy> le000: what program
[21:03] <Jordan_U> le000: What program, how are you trying to run it?
[21:03] <le000> quake2 binary
[21:03] <fryguy> le000: is the binary in your path?
[21:03] <fryguy> le000: or are you referring directly to the absolute path of the binary
[21:03] <le000> its on /usr/local/games/quake2
[21:04] <le000> its on my path
[21:04] <Stalker72> When I try to install Ubuntu restricted extras, I get a message saying "Cannot install 'ubuntu-restricted-extras'. If I write "apt-cache rdepends ubuntu-restricted-extras" in Terminal, it tells me "|non-free-codecs". What do I have to do?
[21:04] <fryguy> le000: echo $PATH
[21:04] <le000> do you want the output?
[21:04] <fryguy> le000: yes
[21:05] <le000> /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games
[21:05] <maty> how do you get out of the man page :\
[21:05] <fryguy> le000: /usr/local/games/quake2 isn't there
[21:05] <fryguy> maty: hit q
[21:05] <le000> what?
[21:05] <fryguy> le000: /usr/local/games/quake2 isn't in your path
[21:05] <le000> so, how do i fix that?
[21:05] <maty> Cheers
[21:05] <triphoppa> fryguy: ...help
[21:06] <fryguy> le000: add it in your .bashrc file.  export PATH=/usr/local/games/quake2:$PATH
[21:06] <fryguy> triphoppa: ask in #freenode
[21:06] <le000> ok, i will try
[21:06] <Jordan_U> fryguy: AFAIK you can't add a single binary to your path, only directories
[21:06] <Caithness> oh, are GParted and GNU Parted two different utilities?
[21:06] <Killer--Tux> need help with ftp
[21:06] <le000> ﻿export PATH=/usr/local/games/quake2:$PATH is the string?
[21:06] <fryguy> le000: you'll need to log out and log back in for that to take effect. for the time being you can just run it by specifying absolute path
[21:06] <Killer--Tux> want to make my own ftp
[21:06] <fryguy> le000: right
[21:06] <biberao> hi
[21:06] <Killer--Tux> can someone help me set it up
[21:06] <meoblast001> wtf is my ubuntu upgrade iso trying to download 4 hours of packages?
[21:06] <fryguy> Killer--Tux: so then install an ftp daemon and off you go
[21:06] <meoblast001> i burned the iso so i wouldnt have to do that
[21:06] <Jordan_U> Caithness: Yes, Gparted is a GUI which uses gnu parted as a back end
[21:07] <biberao> i cant maximize any application on ubuntu any way to fix this?
[21:07] <fryguy> meoblast001: because the upgrade is 1000+ packages
[21:07] <meoblast001> so why would it have to download them?
[21:07] <meoblast001> just get them off the disc
[21:07] <Killer--Tux> fryguy  .... can you suggest a good deamon
[21:07] <meoblast001> and upgrade
[21:07] <fryguy> biberao: maximize works fine in a default ubuntu install, what changes have you made to your window manager configuration
[21:07] <le000> ok, im gonna loggout
[21:07] <fryguy> !ftpd | Killer--Tux
[21:08] <fryguy> meoblast001: you need to mount the disc and tell software sources to look for it there
[21:08] <webnewsreader> Hi, I get an error booting by pxe img with ubuntu 8.04. - this kernel requires the following features not present on the CPU: 0:6 - It's a Intel M 1.4
[21:08] <Killer--Tux> fryguy  would i be able to access it in windows ?
[21:08] <triphoppa> fryguy: thx man ;)
[21:08] <meoblast001> fryguy: i ran the cdupgrade.sh off the disk
[21:08] <fryguy> Killer--Tux: by using an ftp client, just like you would any other ftp
[21:08] <Xtreme_Great> I got a D-Link DWL G122 wireless card, and I can't make its promiscuous mode work in Ubuntu Hardy
[21:08] <moshdj2uk> After upgrading (downgrading?) to 8.10 today, I have no sound, no wireless network, pidgin crashes constantly, and more. eth0 is working, just. After a minute or so, the connect halts, but doesn't drop. Why is my networking buggered up and how do I get my wireless working again?
[21:08] <meoblast001> if i have to deal with this crap i just wont upgrade
[21:09] <Xtreme_Great>  I checked ubuntuforums, and found that rt-73 (it was something like that) would work. Installed that. Even installed the linux-wlan-ng, but all in vain. Nothing works.. What should I do?
[21:09] <fryguy> Xtreme_Great: so find a set of drivers that support promiscous mode and install those
[21:09] <meoblast001> brb im gonna restart
[21:09] <fryguy> meoblast001: seems like a perfectly reasonable option
[21:09] <Jordan_U> moshdj2uk: With so much going wrong it sounds like the upgrade might not have finished, try running "sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[21:10] <dminor_> hello?
[21:10] <dminor_> how can i creat a shortcut to xterm?
[21:10] <fryguy> moshdj2uk: i had similar things happen to my upgrade.  Has happened to a few people over the past couple of weeks.  I'd recommend restoing your backup and just continuing to use 8.04
[21:10] <biberao> i cant maximize any application on ubuntu any way to fix this? <--
[21:10] <moshdj2uk> Jordan_U: Already done, with very little luck. :(
[21:10] <Xtreme_Great> fryguy: That's what I'm asking: Which one would work, because the tech support says that the chipset is not present to support monitor mode, but i found out on ubuntuforums that it was working for them. Rather it's a prism chipset. Technically that should work. Isn't that?
[21:10] <fryguy> dminor_: the same way you create a shortcut to anything else, xterm is probably in /usr/bin/
[21:10] <le000> it still doesnt works
[21:11] <fryguy> Xtreme_Great: no, different chipsets work differently
[21:11] <dmsuperman> When I play a video fullscreen in VLC there's a small green long going along the bottom of the video (in between the video and the black area caused by fullscreen)
[21:11] <fryguy> le000: echo $PATH again
[21:11] <le000> ok
[21:11] <maty>  Ami right in thinking S is same a s in terms of permissions?
[21:11] <fryguy> maty: no
[21:11] <le000> /usr/local/games/quake2:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games
[21:11] <philippe_> Hello. Can I use every Ubuntu packages in Xubuntu?
[21:11] <Xtreme_Great> fryguy: But it has monitor mode. I'm quite sure. Other people are using that. They suggested rt-2300. That's not working for me...
[21:11] <moshdj2uk> fryguy: I thought someone might suggest that. :) How do I go about downgrading? Just change the sources from Ibex to Hardy and then apt-get update?
[21:11] <fryguy> le000: and what is the command you are trying to run
[21:11] <maty> how do i set little s :S
[21:11] <webnewsreader> Since my other question seams hard to answer here it is an easy one: how to get the file size (no graphical gui)
[21:12] <un> philippe_: yes
[21:12] <le000> ./quake2
[21:12] <fryguy> moshdj2uk: there is no downgrade procedure. just restore your backup
[21:12] <maty> i set it but when i did ls -l
[21:12] <maty> it was big S
[21:12] <fryguy> webnewsreader: ls -lh will list filesizes
[21:12] <le000> that's on /usr/local/games/quake2
[21:12] <fryguy> webnewsreader: if you want directories use du
[21:12] <webnewsreader> thank you
[21:12] <fryguy> webnewsreader: if you want disks use df
[21:12] <moshdj2uk> fryguy: Would one have been created before the upgrade?
[21:12] <dmsuperman> When I play a video fullscreen in VLC there's a small green long going along the bottom of the video (in between the video and the black area caused by fullscreen)
[21:12] <fryguy> le000: ./quake2 will try to run quake2 from the current directory, that's certainly not what you want (unless your pwd is /usr/local/games/quake2)
[21:12] <fryguy> moshdj2uk: no
[21:13] <le000> im on the quake2 folder right now
[21:13] <fryguy> moshdj2uk: should be common sense to create a backup of a system before going through a major upgrade
[21:13] <Dominik2> does an ISO image compress?
[21:13] <le000> im on the quake2 folder, so i do ./quake2
[21:13] <fryguy> Dominik2: usually no
[21:13] <moshdj2uk> fryguy: It must be something I lack then. :)
[21:13] <biberao> help please <--??
[21:13] <fryguy> le000: ls -l and paste the results
[21:13] <biberao> i cant maximize any application on ubuntu any way to fix this? <-----
[21:13] <le000> ok
[21:13] <Stalker72> When I try to install Ubuntu restricted extras, I get a message saying "Cannot install 'ubuntu-restricted-extras'. If I write "apt-cache rdepends ubuntu-restricted-extras" in Terminal, it tells me "|non-free-codecs". What do I have to do?
[21:13] <fryguy> le000: use a pastebin
[21:14] <Dominik2> fryguy: so the DSL ISO I downloaded claims to be 11 megs but when I mount it it has 48 megs of stuff on it?
[21:14] <fryguy> Dominik2: no idea
[21:14] <Dominik2> fryguy: oh well I dl again
[21:15] <le000> here's the pastebin http://pastebin.com/m23f7c6a5
[21:15] <juan> pkmfv
[21:15] <john> anything special to do in intrepid to run 2 wired network cards?
[21:15] <fryguy> le000: and what is the output of ./quake2
[21:15] <Dominik2> I need to record audio from a Flash file and then be able to analyze it (slowing down, etc) what programs do you suggest?
[21:16] <le000> that the specified file doesnt exists
[21:16] <zeygari> server otrere.irc.gr
[21:16] <fryguy> le000: what is the exact output
[21:16] <funkyHat> Guest12703: not usually, are you having problems?
[21:16] <Guest12703> yes if i hook up the other nic to my router i lose all network connectivity it worked great in hardy
[21:16] <le000> bash: ./quake2: The file or directory doesnt exist.
[21:16] <webnewsreader> is anyone suceded to run ubuntu 8.04 on Intel mobile ?
[21:17] <juan> hola
[21:17] <fryguy> le000: and the output of pwd?
[21:17] <le000> /usr/local/games/quake2
[21:18] <Assurbanipal> hi everyone, i try to install ubuntu 8.10, but system freezes. it is beacause of my gpu drivers. is it possible to get them annd install the ati drivers from command line?
[21:18] <funkyHat> Guest12703: try removing any custom configuration from the network connections settings window
[21:18] <Guest12703> both nics are set to auto
[21:18] <fryguy> le000: no idea what the problem is
[21:19] <fryguy> Assurbanipal: using the alternative install cd should accomplish that
[21:20] <le000> so
[21:20] <le000> who knows?
[21:20] <\Kira> whats a good tool to backup a computer over a network? I would perfer one in the respritories thats easy to use. Im going to be backing up my computer to a external harddrive on a server every week. I dont want the computer to complain if the server is off, though.
[21:20] <fryguy> \Kira: rdiff-backup is my personal choice
[21:20] <Assurbanipal> fryguy, i just installed the alternate cd, but when it loads x, system freezes
[21:21] <\Kira> fryguy: thanks, ill look into that
[21:21] <fryguy> Assurbanipal: so change the driver
[21:21] <Assurbanipal> fryguy, how
[21:21] <tuxedocurly> Hey, is there a driver i can download for my Pinnacle TV tuner? I have the linux OS
[21:21] <fryguy> Assurbanipal: edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[21:21] <maty>  How do you get out of VI i forget
[21:21] <fryguy> maty: :q
[21:21] <maty> on its own?
[21:21] <BusError> anyone know about how to make a kernel .deb ? seems the infirmation in the net is obsolete. make-kpkg generated a .deb that is 280MB in size !
[21:21] <musikgoat> :q or :wq  maty
[21:21] <Assurbanipal> fryguy, can u guide me innto it plz?
[21:21] <tuxedocurly> ﻿Hey, is there a driver i can download for my Pinnacle TV tuner? I have the ubuntu OS
[21:22] <fryguy> Assurbanipal: no
[21:22] <byonix> hi, anyone can help me setting up Globe Trotter Fusion+HSDPA from T mobile PCMCIA Modem in ubuntu 8.04
[21:22] <musikgoat> maty: second writes what you've edited
[21:22] <maty> k
[21:22] <tuxedocurly> ﻿﻿Hey, is there a driver i can download for my Pinnacle TV tuner? I have the ubuntu OS
[21:23] <todd_> any know of a way get webcam data via java in ubuntu?
[21:23] <musikgoat> !repeat | tuxedocurly
[21:23] <quentusrex> What is the best way to exchange public keys with another person?
[21:23] <quentusrex> Not sign each others keys, but exchange the public keys.
[21:23] <fryguy> quentusrex: in person, on paper, then destroy the paper in front of each other afterwards
[21:23] <musikgoat> quentusrex: by email?
[21:23] <quentusrex> For private encrypted communication.
[21:23] <tuxedocurly> ﻿﻿Hey, is there a driver i can download for my Pinnacle TV tuner? I have the ubuntu OS.
[21:23] <musikgoat> quentusrex: public keys are public for a reason
[21:24] <deathtech> Hello all
[21:24] <quentusrex> how would I easily import someone's public key?
[21:24] <Dustin> hey all
[21:24] <BillyLeeCN> :)
[21:25] <dminor_> is there a way to cascade and whatnot?
[21:25] <deathtech> Im having a really hard time with getting my wireless set to start at boot, I have followed multiple tutorials, and for some reason i just cant get it to come up. I have to log in locally through gnome and use network manager to connect. I use this Machine as a toy, so i can browse the web and goof off at work, so obviously it is quite important to me
[21:25] <fryguy> dminor_: unsure if that's an option in metacity or compiz, but there are dozens of window managers available.  You can certainly find one that has the features that you want
[21:25] <dr_willis> dminor_,  thats normally a window maanger feature.. not seen that  in any of them lately.. there may be a way.. but ive not seen it.
[21:25] <Basmati> &quit
[21:26] <funkyHat> Guest12703: I guess you've tried playing with all the settings in the network manager applet? Sorry I'm a little stuck for ideas here, there's a request on brainstorm that seems related http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/14688/
[21:26] <fryguy> deathtech: networkmanager doesn't start until gnome starts, so you need to log in.  if you want your wireless interface to be up before that, look at iwconfig, /etc/network/interfaces, and iwconfig
[21:26] <dminor_> what is a minimalistic window manager that has tiling?
[21:26] <fryguy> dminor_: i use xmonad
[21:26] <Guest12703> ok thanks i'll check it out
[21:26] <todd_> any know of a way get webcam data via java in ubuntu?
[21:26] <deathtech> fryguy: yes thats my complaint , i have done that and it wont function so im forced to use networkmanager
[21:26] <Jordan_U> deathtech: Are you using 8.10
[21:27] <tuxedocurly> ANYONE? Is there a driver i can DL for my pinnacle TV tuner card???
[21:27] <deathtech> Jordan_U : Yes sir
[21:27] <fryguy> !repeat | tuxedocurly
[21:27] <JohanT> hi.. i cant get my atheos wifi to work
[21:27] <keithclark> I have a laptop here running PCLINUXOS and I want to switch it over to Ubuntu, but the CDROM drive is not working anymore.  What are my options?
[21:27] <tuxedocurly> ﻿ANYONE? Is there a driver i can DL for my pinnacle TV tuner card???
[21:27] <webnewsreader> I get this error booting pxe: This kernel requires the following features not present on the CPU: 0:6
[21:27] <webnewsreader> Unable to boot - please use a kernel appropriate for your CPU.
[21:27] <ikonia> !install > keithclark
[21:28] <ikonia> tuxedocurly: you've been asked to stop asking every few seconds
[21:28] <fryguy> keithclark: pxeboot might be available, usb drive might be available, hard drive transplant is an option, buying a cheap external cd drive is an option
[21:28] <tuxedocurly> But i like asking every few seconds
[21:28] <tuxedocurly> ﻿ANYONE? Is there a driver i can DL for my pinnacle TV tuner card???
[21:28] <deathtech> Jordan_U : Oddly Enough it worked with 8.04
[21:28] <vocal9> fryguy,  what command can i use to fully remove KDE (im on XFCE now)
[21:28] <fryguy> vocal9: no idea, why are you asking me?
[21:28] <JohanT> okej, some one thath can help me with my atheos?
[21:28] <DIFH-iceroot> vocal9: sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop
[21:28] <deathtech> vocal9 : sudo apt-get remove kde
[21:28] <keithclark> fryguy, laptop will not boot from usb, external cd is not an option
[21:29] <vocal9> fryguy, because i hear you are one of the greats
[21:29] <fryguy> vocal9: lol, you must have me confused with someone else
[21:29] <keithclark> fryguy, I just want a simple, no cost solution if one is available.
[21:29] <fryguy> keithclark: so then see if pxeboot or a hard drive transplant are suitbale options
[21:29] <JohanT> hi
[21:29] <keithclark> fryguy, pxeboot?
[21:29] <fryguy> keithclark: i gave you 4 options, look into them :)
[21:29] <scientes> anybody ported rh's xen guis?
[21:30] <byonix> hi, anyone can help me setting up Globe Trotter Fusion+HSDPA from T mobile PCMCIA Modem in ubuntu 8.04
[21:30] <Jordan_U> deathtech: System -> Preferences -> Network Connection. Set your Wireless connection to automatically connect and be a system setting and it should connect at boot
[21:30] <dminor_> does anyone know how to change my window manager, manually throught the configuration files?
[21:30] <scientes> can i run xen on a desktop kernel?
[21:30] <dminor_> it used to be like .xinit
[21:30] <JohanT> i installed ubuntu on a aspire one, and my wifi is dead..
[21:30] <fryguy> keithclark: yes pxeboot, a mechanism for boot a computer from data on another computer (also BOOTP, but that's not used much)
[21:30] <biberao> bye
[21:30] <Dustin> is there some update for ubuntu 8.10 intrepid usplash so you can change boot screen?
[21:30] <erUSUL> !usplash
[21:31] <fryguy> Dustin: usplash has been around for a while to change the boot screen
[21:31] <scientes> hoe can i recompile all my drivers for another kernel automatically
[21:31] <vocal9> deathtech, it says 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 38 not upgraded.  However, i still have all the K* apps etc which i want all removed
[21:31] <meoblast001> hi
[21:31] <meoblast001> i mounted an Intrepid Alternate ISO and it didnt ask me if i want to use it as an upgrade disk
[21:31] <fryguy> dminor_: change window manager in your gnome-session options, or run a custom .xsession file with the WINDOW_MANAGER environment variable set
[21:32] <woody86> how can I make GDM start up by default again? I disabled it in Services, but now that it's not running, I can't reenable it??
[21:32] <Dustin> when i try changing the usplash it just shows text instead of the picture, tried using startup manager to change the "picture"
[21:32] <n800user> I need to run a program as root, but sudo ./flasher-3.0 -r doesn't work
[21:32] <fryguy> !work | n800user
[21:32] <deathtech> vocal9 : I would try sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop
[21:32] <meoblast001> i guess i just wont upgrade
[21:33] <zeygari> server otrere.irc.gr
[21:33] <JohanT> hi.. need some help
[21:33] <fryguy> meoblast001: probably a smart choice
[21:33] <meoblast001> although im getting sick of pulseaudio/alsa problems
[21:33] <n800user> I need to run a program as root, but sudo ./flasher-3.0 -r gives the error (not found)
[21:33] <meoblast001> i cant run more than 1 program to use sound at a time
[21:33] <meoblast001> very irritating
[21:33] <BillyLeeCN> vocal9  : remove kdelibs4c2alibarts1c2a
[21:33] <deathtech> Jordan_U : I set it to a System Setting, i do not see an option to Auto Connect at boot however
[21:34] <fryguy> n800user: what is the output of ls -l flasher-3.0
[21:34] <meoblast001> does anyone know how to fix that?
[21:34] <scientes> how do i reconpile my drivers for another kernel
[21:34] <JohanT> i installed ubuntu on a aspire one, and my wifi is dead.. can some one help me?
[21:34] <n800user> -rw-r--r-- 1 myuser myuser 40236 2008-11-04 18:58 flasher-3.0
[21:34] <Annirak> hi, I need help setting up lm-sensors on intrepid.  I have installed the lm-sensors package and run sensors-detect, but my output from sensors shows only the (wrong) CPU temperature
[21:34] <scientes> a open-source driver and nvidia driver did not work when i used ubuntu server kernel last
[21:34] <scientes> Annirak, look through all the sensors, sometimes the names are wrong
[21:35] <keithclark> fryguy, can you point me to a good instruction page for using pxeboot?
[21:35] <asdfa> sicp-concurency.ss
[21:35] <meoblast001> is it even possible to fix the hardy sound problems?
[21:35] <vocal9> deathtech, Couldn't find package kdelibs4c2alibarts1c2a
[21:35] <calwig> hi everyone, where can i get information about bluetooth?
[21:35] <calwig> !bluetooth
[21:35] <vocal9> deathtech,  removing kde-desktop gives me same thing,  0 removed, 0 added etc
[21:36] <deathtech> vocal9: how did you initially install KDE ? Did you install Kubuntu ?
[21:36] <BillyLeeCN> kdelibs4c2a       libarts1c2a
[21:36] <paul68> back
[21:36] <vocal9> vocal9, no 'm on xubuntu btu iu installed kde after using install kde4
[21:36] <fryguy> keithclark: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/Netboot
[21:36] <Annirak> scientes: the only modules to load for me were k8temp and it87
[21:37] <keithclark> fryguy, thank you.  Appreciated.
[21:37] <scientes> Annirak, i mean look through all the temps, also on my k10 the drivers doesnt exist yet
[21:37] <scientes> Annirak, on my Athalon 2400+ for example it was "system temp" or something that was thae actual temp
[21:37] <vocal9> deathtech,  no 'm on xubuntu btu iu installed kde after using install kde4
[21:37] <deathtech> vocal9: use Synaptic
[21:38] <Annirak> scientes: Ok, thanks, I'll try to track it down
[21:38] <DrSeptapus> has anybody had any problems with left 4 dead in wine?
[21:38] <vocal9> deathtech, theres a billion things to select tho
[21:38] <ikonia> DrSeptapus: you may find #winehq better to ask that sort of thing
[21:38] <deathtech> vocal9: login and laucnh it From System-> Preferences
[21:38] <ikonia> DrSeptapus: more wine users in there
[21:38] <DrSeptapus> thanks
[21:38] <asdfa> !paste
[21:38] <scientes> DrSeptapus, if wine is having trouble go to winehq.com and add the wine repo and upgrade
[21:38] <asdfa> sorry wrong channel
[21:38] <deathtech> vocal9: search KDE metapackage , or search for KDE individually
[21:39] <DIFH-iceroot> vocal9: kubuntu-desktop is what you are searching for
[21:40] <Annirak> scientes: I have it working now, thanks
[21:40] <scientes> np
[21:41] <n800user> I get a command not found when I try to do sudo ./flasher-3.0     or sudo /flasher-3.0     (I put flasher-3.0 in the / directory)
[21:41] <scientes> it sucks there is no k10/phenom suport
[21:41] <ZeiP> Hi. I've installed Sympa from the Ubuntu packages and am having some troubles getting it to list all the languages I need to support: it's currently listing only Finnish and English (US), when supported_langs is set to "en_US,fi,fr" (without quotes). I also have checked that the French translation file indeed exists and is named & located congruently with the Finnish one. I've restarted Sympa and Apache. Anyone know which rain dance I should dance to make…
[21:41] <ZeiP> … it detect also French?
[21:41] <dr_willis> n800user,  you are usign the wrong path then.. or  its not excecutable... use 'tab' completion to properly spell the names also.
[21:42] <scientes> how can i get drivers working for the server kernel before switching?
[21:42] <farciarz84> hi tell me pleas if it is a good idea to install xubuntu on my laptop?
[21:42] <ikonia> farciarz84: try it - see if you like it
[21:42] <billenium> I cannot login to GNOME ubuntu... It just shows a screen.
[21:42] <dr_willis> farciarz84,  how can we know that? its your laptop... if you want it insatll it.. if not.. well....
[21:42] <billenium> of tan color.
[21:43] <dr_willis> farciarz84,  the xubuntu desktop  cd - lets you test it out befor installing
[21:43] <basso> Hello!
[21:43] <n800user> ls
[21:43] <basso> I got problems with the Catalyst Control Center
[21:43] <basso> It wont start
[21:44] <basso> and dosn't even show me an error
[21:44] <[sZ]SparkyFlary> which one should i get nasm or hla?
[21:44] <farciarz84> how adventages I can get of installing 32bit instead of 64
[21:44] <farciarz84> I've heart that sound will suffer
[21:44] <csilk> farciarz84, is your laptop 32 or b4 bit?
[21:44] <ikonia> farciarz84: not really
[21:44] <csilk> **32 0r 64
[21:44] <farciarz84> core2duo 64bit
[21:45] <farciarz84> what are disadvantages of using xubuntu ?
[21:46] <DIFH-iceroot> farciarz84: a poor/minimal IDE
[21:46] <keithclark> fryguy, that info seems old
[21:46] <csilk> farciarz84, only downside to 64bit is the poor web browser java plugin suppoer afaik
[21:46] <csilk> *support
[21:46] <csilk> DIFH-iceroot, ?
[21:46] <billenium> orget this, im switching back to windows...
[21:46] <DIFH-iceroot> csilk: xbuntu = xfce4
[21:46] <dr_willis> csilk,  cant say that ive noticed that issue.. but i havent paid much attention. ;)
[21:47] <csilk> dr_willis,  I was going on what I read in the forums
[21:47] <farciarz84> csilk but it is possible to instal eric4 and amarok?
[21:47] <csilk> farciarz84,  I would assume so
[21:47] <jrib> hmm, programmer's dvorak seemed like a good idea until i tried to use alt-# to switch channels
[21:47] <csilk> billenium, what grfx card you got?
[21:47] <Dominik2> Audacity doesn't recognize any playback devices, how can I fix this seeing how other programs (amarok) can playback just fine
[21:48] <jNoxx> I like rhythmbox
[21:48] <jNoxx> Or amarok
[21:48] <aquarius> Gnome isn't remembering my running applications when I log out and back in again. (I've ticked "remember running applications".) Do I need to poke something else to make it work?
[21:48] <csilk> vlc :D
[21:48] <root_> how would i go about transfering ALL settings (wallpaper, menus, etc.) from a user account to the root account?
[21:48] <dr_willis> csilk,  :) i decided to test out 64bit.. and can honestly say.. ive not noticed any problems.. Other then no zsnes. :)
[21:48] <CoJaBo> What filesystem would be best for a RAID 5?
[21:48] <ikonia> CoJaBo: doesn't matter
[21:49] <ikonia> CoJaBo: file system has nothing to do with raid
[21:49] <csilk> dr_willis, yeah I was reading from a 2 year old post
[21:49] <csilk> my bad
[21:49] <dr_willis> csilk,  heh.. :) 2 years ago.. yea.. 64bit was a baby.. it seems to be rather mature now.
[21:49] <root_> is there like a root directory under home for desktop settings etc?
[21:50] <CoJaBo> ikonia: Some filesystems have RAID-specific format options, like Ext3. I am wondering if these also apply to Ext4 or possibly other file systems.
[21:50] <Chiselhuk_Plus1> Can anyone tell me how to make a photo smaller (for emailing purposes in Ubuntu Gutsy? :)
[21:50] <scientes> why does my hard drive not work after resume?
[21:50] <ikonia> CoJaBo what raid options does ext3 have ?
[21:50] <root_> chiselhuk, try saving the file as jpeg
[21:50] <Billy> hello. I did a fresh ubuntu install, and it asked me to install some ATI graphics drivers (sorry, I foolishly didnt bother reading properly). Anyway, it downloaded and installed, and after restarting I can't see the screen. Anyone know how I can revert back to the way it was?
[21:50] <root_> go to console and try and remove it with apt-get
[21:51] <Billy> root_, haven't a clue what I'd be trying to remove?
[21:51] <CoJaBo> ikonia: Stride I think its called. Its supposed to arrange data so it will benefit from RAID speed improvements.
[21:51] <ikonia> CoJaBo I see no options in the man page
[21:51] <root_> umm
[21:51] <root_> i think fglrx
[21:51] <root_> so try sudo apt-get remove fglrx
[21:52] <ikonia> CoJaBo: the only option is sripe-width
[21:52] <sudo_man> hai
[21:52] <ikonia> CoJaBo: stripe-width sorry
[21:52] <woody86_> anyone know how to make GDM start by default again if I've disabled it? or at least how to start gdm for now?
[21:52] <Billy> root_, that was it, fglrx
[21:52] <root_> add an entry in your startup manager
[21:52] <csilk> root_, what grfx card you got?
[21:52] <basso> I got problems with the Catalyst Control Center, It wont start, and it wont give any error once pressed upon
[21:52] <root_> ati radeon x1150
[21:53] <csilk> root_, also, are you using irc as root?
[21:53] <CoJaBo> ikonia: An example command I have seen is "mkfs.ext3 -b 4096 -E stride=16,stripe-width=48", I can't find anything saying if that works with Ext4 tho.
[21:53] <root_> yes
[21:53] <csilk> why?
[21:53] <root_> how do i transfer all my settings n stuff from a user to root?
[21:53] <scientes> my hard drive cant read on resume
[21:53] <csilk> good answer -_-
[21:53] <csilk> scientes, sounds like an acpi issue?
[21:53] <root_> i have issues with some apps that only wanna run as root and it would be easier to just transfer all to root
[21:54] <ikonia> CoJaBo: yes, thats just a stripe size, you'll find that won't make a difference unless you mirror it into your raid stripe sizes
[21:54] <DIFH-iceroot> root_: just use sudo
[21:54] <csilk> root_, deffinatly not a good idea
[21:54] <Billy> root_, stupid question, but how do I load up a terminal without actually logging in?
[21:54] <Billy> cd only way?
[21:54] <CaptainCanuck> guys whats the equivalent of System> Administration> Network for 8.10?
[21:54] <root_> i know its not a good idea but i wanna try it out
[21:54] <ikonia> Billy: what ?
[21:54] <scientes> X resumes to a screen but is frozen, cant log in in terminal, read errors on every activity
[21:54] <ikonia> Billy: how do you expect to launch a terminal without logging in
[21:54] <fryguy> Billy: there are virtual terminals on 1-6, not sure if that's useful to you or not
[21:54] <DIFH-iceroot> Billy: crtl + alt + f1
[21:54] <root_> yeah ctrl+alt+f1
[21:54] <Billy> i can't see the screen due to graphics
[21:54] <scientes> Nvidia SATA controller card
[21:54] <fryguy> scientes: known issue in some suspend configurations, the uuid of the drive changes on resume
[21:54] <fryguy> Billy: ctrl-alt-f1
[21:54] <CaptainCanuck> root_ whats the equivalent of System> Administration> Network for 8.10?
[21:54] <vasil> hi guys
[21:54] <Billy> ctrl alt f1 should give me a terminal
[21:54] <DIFH-iceroot> root_: dont use something stupid like a root for yur work, just use sudo
[21:55] <csilk> root_, "try it out"? it's going to be exactly the same only you will be logged in as root
[21:55] <ikonia> Billy: boot into "safe" or "recovery" mode from the grub menu
[21:55] <csilk> what is there to try?
[21:55] <Billy> right, im going for it, back soon to tell how it went
[21:55] <Billy> ikonia, ahh yeah, thanks
[21:55] <Billy> be back
[21:55] <scientes> fryguy, so maybe would fix if i mounted by /dev/sxx???
[21:55] <root_> it's all pretty much the same
[21:55] <csilk> root_, yeah, just much more dangerous
[21:55] <root_> comapred to what ?
[21:55] <fryguy> scientes: no idea
[21:55] <csills> Hello   anybody familiar with midi playback for firefox on ubuntu?
[21:55]  * Chiselhuk_Plus1 wonders if she's invisible and what she'll do with her new powers!
[21:55] <root_> yeah im willing to be dangerous for my stuff to work
[21:55] <DIFH-iceroot> !root | root_
[21:55] <vasil> anyone up for a challenge?
[21:55] <ikonia> Chiselhuk_Plus1: we don't need to see you wonder that in this support channel please
[21:55] <CoJaBo> ikonia: Is there a way to find out is Ext4 supports it? I'd guess it would since it is based on Ext3, but is the command to do Ext4 any different?
[21:56] <CaptainCanuck> root_: my problem is the exact same as this: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-863724.html
[21:56] <ikonia> CoJaBo: read the man page
[21:56] <csilk> root_, your stuff will work without being dangerous
[21:56] <ikonia> CoJaBo: thats all I've just done
[21:56] <CaptainCanuck> except i cant find System> Administration> Network
[21:56] <CoJaBo> ikonia: Which one or ones should I read?
[21:56] <Chiselhuk_Plus1> ikonia:: I asked a question and got no reply, is why I'm asking. :)
[21:56] <root_> where does the root home directory reside?
[21:56] <fryguy> root_: /root/
[21:56] <csilk> root_, /root
[21:56] <root_> ok cool
[21:57] <csilk> root_, what wont work as a normal user, I'm sure there is a simple way to fix it
[21:57]  * dr_willis finds its scary that someone running as root.. is asking those kind of questions...
[21:57] <dr_willis> :)
[21:57] <ikonia> Chiselhuk_Plus1: as I said - we don't need to see you ponder it, ask a question and wait for a reponse, filling up the channel with more noise makes other peoples questions get lost
[21:57] <root_> i cant remember lol but it would make life easier just running as root
[21:57] <csills> * I run ubuntu apps as root sometimes
[21:57] <yereth> hi guys
[21:57] <csilk> root_, it will ultimatly lead to life being harder running as root
[21:57] <root_> oh
[21:57] <root_> i dont see how
[21:57] <yereth> I just installed ubuntu 8.10, instead of kubuntu 8.04
[21:58] <vasil> was wondering if someone could help? - got vaio vgn-nr330e running on ubuntu 8.10 but wireless is not working
[21:58] <ikonia> yereth: install the package kubuntu-desktop if you want it to be like kubuntu
[21:58] <yereth> and now I am experiencing very shaky graphics in urbanterror, a quake 3 mod
[21:58] <csilk> root_, one wrong/bad command etc and game over for your installation
[21:58] <matthieu_> hi
[21:58] <yereth> ikonia: no.. I'm just having trouble with my graphics
[21:58] <csills> anyway does anybody know much about getting midi playback going on ubuntu?
[21:58] <fryguy> yereth: so install a graphics driver that supports 3d acceleration
[21:58] <yereth> I have the nvidia restricted drivers installed
[21:58] <CaptainCanuck> root_ basically i want to know how to change a DNS address on intrepid
[21:58] <dr_willis> root_,  i dont see how it makes it easier... but do what you want.. take a hammer to your pc if you want. :) we dont care..
[21:59] <yereth> and I get a steady 60 fps, which is capped
[21:59] <yereth> but it still looks shaky
[21:59] <yereth> without frame droppings
[21:59] <fryguy> CaptainCanuck: edit /etc/resolv.conf, but you should find the cause of the problem though, because it will reset on you
[21:59] <root_> yeah i run windows in the same machine without an anti-virus as i run as admin on that, i'm a safe guy
[21:59] <Chiselhuk_Plus1> Wot software can I use to resize a jpg file to make it smaller to email? :)
[21:59] <yereth> you guys have a clue how this could be?
[21:59] <CaptainCanuck> the cause is rogers, the fucking shit heads (its an ISP)
[21:59] <dr_willis> Chiselhuk_Plus1,  gimp  is handy
[21:59] <fryguy> Chiselhuk_Plus1: imagemagick
[21:59] <yereth> my videocard is by far good enough
[21:59] <root_> so if i copy all files from /home/user on top of /root will everything like transfer over?
[21:59] <gva123> hi all
[21:59] <paul__> can somebody help me out with a nasty route problem on my server ?
[21:59] <csilk> root_, windows won't allow you to easily nuke itself, linux will
[22:00] <nothing12345> Hi, could anyone help me with Counterstrike source?
[22:00] <fryguy> root_: when you blow up your system by running as root, don't come back here asking for help
[22:00] <yereth> can I tweak my xorg.conf to get a more steady performance?
[22:00] <Chiselhuk_Plus1> dr_willis: Thank u, I believe it's user friendly too?
[22:00] <root_> hehe in windows just delete a random reg key and it will explode lol
[22:00] <vasil> anyone got an idea on the wireless shit?
[22:00] <fryguy> nothing12345: #winehq, www.winehq.org
[22:00] <csilk> fryguy,  he ownt be able to :)
[22:00] <csilk> *wont
[22:00] <Chiselhuk_Plus1> fryguy: I'll look at that one too!
[22:00] <dr_willis> Chiselhuk_Plus1,  my wife can use it..  its a full featured image editor...
[22:00] <ikonia> vasil: mind your language please
[22:00] <root_> hey its my system and i make images from time to time, i can just restore
[22:00] <gva123> i have a dell d830 running interpid, i recently updated my bios and it seems that i brick the machine, does anyone have an idea how to recover?
[22:00] <nothing12345> I have just 14 fps^^
[22:00]  * csilk facepalms
[22:01] <yereth> did anyone experience shaky graphics on urbanterror or another opengl game with 8.10?
[22:01] <fryguy> root_: have fun
[22:01] <csills> facepalms?
[22:01] <paul687> ikonia can you give it a try to help me out with a route problem on my server? would be much appreciated
[22:01] <Chiselhuk_Plus1> dr_willis: Good to know your wife is a convert like me! lol
[22:01] <ikonia> paul687: what's the problem ?
[22:01] <dr_willis> root _ while its restoreing some day after you trash the system... youmay want to read up on bash/shell basics. :)
[22:01] <root_> i don't see how it's dangerous running as root if you know what you're doing
[22:01] <Chiselhuk_Plus1> dr_willis: Thank you for your assistance!
[22:01] <csilk> root_, but you dont know what you're doing
[22:01] <dr_willis> root_,  i dont think we are convinced you do know what you are doing.
[22:01] <btQuark> hello everybody
[22:01] <un> root_: cuz i can take over your computer from irc... that's why it's dangerous... lol
[22:02] <root_> really...
[22:02] <yereth> no one can help me here?
[22:02] <yereth> :(
[22:02] <btQuark> did anyone try the radeon or radeonhd drivers here?
[22:02] <un> root_: yeah... root isn't a good idea...
[22:02] <tensei> Is there anyway to set the top gnome panel in ubuntu 8.04 back to default settings?  Or do I have to manually do it?
[22:02] <Commie_Cary> yus
[22:02] <ikonia> yereth: what do you want ?
[22:02] <meoblast001> hi
[22:02] <paul687> ikonia: I have at this point the following setup isp dlink router with 192.168.0.1 eth0  ip 192.168.0.10 server eth1 with ip 192.168.1.1 linksys/ap
[22:02] <Commie_Cary> btQuark, no 3d accel
[22:02] <gva123> i have a dell d830 running interpid, i recently updated my bios and it seems that i brick the machine, does anyone have an idea how to recover?
[22:02] <btQuark> i am suffering from that fucktarded fglrx driver and a firegl v5200
[22:02] <ikonia> yereth: your using a closed source 4rd party driver
[22:02] <meoblast001> i noticed a bug that made me very angry and i dont know where to post it at
[22:02] <paul687> and can't connect from linksys to eth0 and vice versa
[22:02] <root_> oh well im gonna risk it
[22:02] <sambagirl> if i use ubuntu desktop in stead of server, the only real difference is that the desktop is complete and graphicl as the server is watered down but i wont lose aything i should just gane more things right?
[22:02] <un> root_: i love when ppl do...
[22:02] <Commie_Cary> btQuark, it has no 3d acce;
[22:02] <yereth> ikonia: my graphics are extremely shaky on a quake 3 game, while I have nvidia drivers installed that came packaged with 8.10 and I do have a steady 60fps
[22:03] <un> root_: makes you learn more... good for ya
[22:03] <yereth> ikonia: I don't understand why it's still shaky :(
[22:03] <root_> yeah it does
[22:03] <ikonia> yereth: as I said your using a 3rd party closed sourced driver....
[22:03] <fryguy> sambagirl: the kernel is a bit different too
[22:03] <ikonia> paul687: sorry, explain that again, what's your router ip
[22:03] <meoblast001> i was playing Sonic 3D Blast in Gens fullscreen opengl on.... i wanted to save my progrss so i exited fullscreen... as soon as i exited fullscreen, gnome screensaver started... gnome screensaver and opengl fought for top level rendering.. i tried typing in my password about 600 times and it kept telling me i was wrong... where should i file that bug at?
[22:03] <yereth> ikonia: yes, but yesterday it worked perfectly when I was still running kubuntu 8.10
[22:03] <sambagirl> but it should still be able to do what i would do in server still yes?
[22:03] <root_> thats why its so easy to become a master at learning windows, it messes up all the time so u get experience at fixing it
[22:03] <btQuark> Commie_Cary : i've read different things that starting from 1.2.3 radeonhd is supposed to have 3d and the manpage of radeon talks about dri too
[22:03] <ikonia> yereth: your using a different destop now
[22:03] <fryguy> meoblast001: launchpad
[22:04] <Commie_Cary> :O
[22:04] <yereth> ikonia: so I should just accept performance getting a downgrade?
[22:04] <Commie_Cary> btQuark, REALLY!?!
[22:04] <csilk> the aweful ting is, root_ may well run as root without ever nukeing his system making him believe root is the best way to run a linux machine, eventually that may translate into his future unix admin career where strangley the bank he works for loses millions thanks to an apache running as root error -_-
[22:04] <meoblast001> fryguy: but under what? opengl, gens, or gnome-screensaver?
[22:04] <btQuark> and that fscking fglrx driver completeley fails on video+compiz
[22:04] <yereth> ikonia: or you suggest if I'd use KDE4 it could be different?
[22:04] <ikonia> yereth: no, I didn't say that, but go back to kubuntu and see if the desktop makes a difference
[22:04] <fryguy> meoblast001: it'll get put in the correct place (or likely just thrown away)
[22:04] <btQuark> Commie_Cary: no bs. read their manpages. radeonhd even has a ppa
[22:04] <yereth> ikonia: can try
[22:04] <Commie_Cary> btQuark, I know, im  using that stinky flgx driver
[22:04] <meoblast001> fryguy: why would it get thrown away?
[22:04] <btQuark> Commie_Cary: BUT on 8.10 they crash
[22:04] <paul687> ikonia: the layout is as follows isp mode; => dlinkrouter with 192.168.0.1 eth0 with ip 192.168.0.10 server eth1 with 192.168.1.1 and linksys ap
[22:04] <fryguy> meoblast001: unsure
[22:04] <Commie_Cary> btQuark, awww
[22:05] <CoJaBo> Is it possible to even use Ext4 in Ubuntu?
[22:05] <meoblast001> i thought i was gonna start having an i hate linux day today but i quickly forgave it
[22:05] <Commie_Cary> btQuark, but video+compiz issue can be fixed with VLC
[22:05] <ikonia> paul687: ok, so what's eth0 plugged into
[22:05] <Iamelite> I keep trying to use gparted, and whenever i unmount to make changes, it automatically remounts. (Xubuntu 8.10)
[22:05] <btQuark> at least the nvidia drivers work until you experience that fucking black window bug
[22:05] <Commie_Cary> use VLC, but on the VLC settings
[22:05] <Aero745> Hello everyone, I have interpid thinkpad laptop and after reinstalling open office packages yesterday I noticed my sound stopped working today
[22:05] <btQuark> i do
[22:05] <paul687> ikonia: it's plugged into the dlink
[22:05] <Aero745> can someone help me diagnose it please?
[22:05] <Iamelite> I dont want it to remount
[22:05] <quentusrex> Is there a way to let a user have read and write permissions to a special directory owned by another user and group?
[22:05] <woody86_> anyone help me out? "Configuration file "/home/steve/.kde/share/config/kdesudorc" not writable."
[22:05] <ikonia> paul687: ok, so me the output of netstatn -rn in a pastebin please
[22:05] <Commie_Cary> btQuark, in the setting select "X11" and not "flgx"
[22:05] <btQuark> Commie_Cary: yea, i know you can switch to X11 rendering - but what a help
[22:05] <fryguy> quentusrex: add the user in question to the group
[22:05] <nothing12345> Does anyone here convert Videos for the PSP with MEncoder or ffmpeg?
[22:06] <fryguy> nothing12345: i build a 25 machine encoder farm at work that uses mencoder and ffmpeg
[22:06] <btQuark> Commie_Cary:  it's like going back to stoneage cpu-based unaccelerated rendering by freewill
[22:06] <dr_willis> nothing12345,  i have ages agoo.. followed some guide/faq i saw on the mplayer/mencoder faq/docs
[22:06] <btQuark> that actually created real load on my core duo whilst not looking too good
[22:06] <nothing12345> hm
[22:07] <nothing12345> I wanna convert vid's 4 the psp to h264 and aac
[22:07] <Aero745> Hello everyone, I have interpid thinkpad laptop and after reinstalling open office packages yesterday I noticed my sound stopped working today
[22:07] <nothing12345> I dont need a gui..
[22:07] <paul687> ikonia: and I can reach my server from that side and I can also reach my server when I am directly connected to the linksys
[22:07] <paul687> ikonia: http://paste.ubuntu.com/72559/
[22:07] <nothing12345> Does anyone have the perfect parameters 4 the psp? XD
[22:07] <dr_willis> nothing12345,  what does a gui have to do with it.. :) i recall the mencoder faq mentioned how to covnet to psp video format.
[22:08] <ikonia> paul687: you've got 2 default routes
[22:08] <dr_willis> nothing12345,  nothing is perfect.. i imagine i  depends on your needs and the video you are convertring
[22:08] <nothing12345> I just found "convert to MP4 - MP4 Codec" not to H264
[22:08] <paul687> ikonia: I also checked that when I have an ip 192.168.1.2 directly connected to eht1 I can ping eth1 and can also ping eth0 but can't ping dlink at 192.168.0.1
[22:08] <billy> recovery mode fixed it, couldnt actually remove the package :)
[22:09] <Aero745> Hello everyone, I have interpid thinkpad laptop and after reinstalling open office packages yesterday I noticed my sound stopped working today, can someone help me diagnose.  I also noticed that my alsamixer has only one bar "master" usually it has a ton of them
[22:09] <paul687> ikonia: ok how do I resolve this please?
[22:09] <ikonia> paul687: will I would remove the default route 0.0.0.0         192.168.1.1     0.0.0.0         UG        0 0          0 eth1
[22:09] <snikker> someone know how set 3d view with cairo dock?
[22:09] <ikonia> paul687: as your internet is provided by eth0
[22:09] <billy> how can I install the ATI proprietary drivers when it doesnt work when I load up after installing when it automatically does it?
[22:09] <ikonia> paul687: so eth1 doesn't need a default route
[22:10] <fryguy> billy: are you sure your card is supported by that driver
[22:10] <paul687> ikonia: ok how do I do this please?
[22:10] <Marcinq> Jesus Who tell me how can I log in to root
[22:10] <fryguy> !root | Marcinq
[22:10] <ikonia> route del
[22:10] <ikonia> Marcinq: you don't login as root
[22:10] <ikonia> Marcinq: thats disabled
[22:10] <fryguy> it's actually not disabled, you just shouldn't do it
[22:10] <Sandblasted> hi
[22:11] <ikonia> fryguy: the root password is disabled
[22:11] <Aero745> Hello everyone, I have interpid thinkpad laptop and after reinstalling open office packages yesterday I noticed my sound stopped working today, can someone help me diagnose.  I also noticed that my alsamixer has only one bar "master" usually it has a ton of them
[22:11] <paul687> ikonia: and then sorry still learning so I don't know the complete syntax or is this going to delete all routes?
[22:11] <Marcinq> Sudo....what ?
[22:11] <fryguy> ikonia: "sudo su" will log you in as root in a default install of either 8.04 or 8.10
[22:11] <ikonia> Marcinq: sudo $command"
[22:11] <ikonia> fryguy: no - that will give you a root shell, you can't login as root at either a tty or a desktop
[22:11] <Sandblasted> i have to questions... can anyone help me
[22:11] <Sandblasted> ?
[22:11] <Arbe> how do i list all users in ubuntu through command line?
[22:11] <ikonia> Arbe: cat /etc/passwd
[22:12] <csilk> !ask | Sandblasted
[22:12] <Arbe> oh
[22:12] <Arbe> thank
[22:12] <Arbe> sXD
[22:12] <Aero745> ikonia, do you know anything about sound in ubuntu?
[22:12] <Arbe> *thanks XD
[22:12] <FloodBot2> Arbe: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:12] <fryguy> ikonia: ikonia sudo su - provides a login shell, equivalent to logging in as root.  There's more ways to obtain a login than through a getty or a display manager
[22:12] <Sandblasted> ok
[22:12] <ikonia> Aero745: depends what the question is
[22:12] <raboof> my system is using APIC, and various devices (2 usb ports, my sound card and my network card) are assigned to IRQ 16.
[22:12] <volpe> ciao
[22:12] <Marcinq> sudo su but id doesnt work
[22:12] <Arbe> "don't use Enter as punctuation" D:
[22:12] <ikonia> fryguy: your just nitpicking now
[22:12] <Sandblasted> tank-u
[22:12] <Arbe> that's what i do the most D:
[22:12] <volpe> !list
[22:12] <fryguy> ikonia: i would argue you are doing the same
[22:12] <paul687> ikonia: and then? sorry still learning so I don't know the complete syntax or is this going to delete all routes?
[22:12] <raboof> if i understand correctly, it's good for realtime audio performance to move the usb ports and eth0 to higher IRQ channels
[22:12] <ikonia> fryguy: not in relation to what the guy is asking
[22:12] <raboof> how do I do that?
[22:12] <Sandblasted> so. first question
[22:13] <Aero745> ikonia my sound stopped working lol,alsa mixer only has one bar "master" and that's it, usually it has lots of different bars for microphones and stuff.  Sound is unmuted and my music player gives no error or anything
[22:13] <Arbe> okay so next question: how do i list all ftp accounts?
[22:13] <ikonia> paul687: it won't delete all the routes, you need to just delete the route 0.0.0.0 route for eth1
[22:13] <Aero745> ikonia: it used to work yesterday, I don't know what happened
[22:13] <paul687> ikonia: ok how would the complete command be route del and then?
[22:13] <ikonia> Arbe: depends what ftp is set to auth agains, if it's default is system accounts its the same as /etc/passwd
[22:13] <ikonia> paul687: come on - you need to do a little looking for yourself
[22:14] <meoblast001> how do you get XGL info?
[22:14] <meoblast001> i cant remember the command
[22:14] <ikonia> paul687: I'm trying to help but I'm not doing everything for you
[22:14] <Sandblasted> how do i make my user have the same admin rules as root?
[22:14] <Arbe> Ikonia: well, i have an ftp account named "arbe" that i created through a control panel
[22:14] <Arbe> but it doesn't show up in /etc/passwd
[22:14] <csilk> !root | Sandblasted
[22:14] <ikonia> Arbe: what control pannel ?
[22:14] <ikonia> Sandblasted: put the user in the admin group
[22:14] <Arbe> WebFusion. It's a dedicated server company. The control panel is terrible :P
[22:14] <Arbe> the ftp daemon is proftpd i think though
[22:14] <ikonia> Arbe: no idea then
[22:15] <ikonia> Arbe: contact the isp
[22:15] <Arbe> oh. tnever mind.
[22:15] <ikonia> Arbe: we can't support their tools
[22:15] <Arbe> Thats understandable.
[22:16] <csilk> Arbe,  I used webfusion, what's your prob?
[22:16] <Aero745> can someone help me diagnose a problem with no sound?
[22:16] <Arbe> I want to make an FTP account that connects to /home/, not /home/[user]
[22:16] <Sandblasted>  ikonia: i already done that
[22:16] <Arbe> so I can manage other people's files easier
[22:16] <csilk> Arbe, VPS?
[22:16] <paul687> ikonia: understood is this the correct syntax? route del -net 0.0.0.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 gw 192.168.1.1 dev eth1
[22:17] <Arbe> no, dedicated server
[22:17] <ikonia> paul687: looks ok, not sure about the dev syntax though
[22:17] <THE_GFR|WORK>  it says "this swf file is know to cause bugs in swfdec decoder playback canceled"
[22:17] <Baatti> is there any good WebCam software for Ubuntu?
[22:17] <Baatti> something like ManyCam or WebcamMax?
[22:17] <Baatti> Wine just isn't cutting it with either of those programs
[22:17] <paul687> ikonia: ok giving it a go
[22:18] <csilk> Arbe, for a start I would advise you use ssh for security reasons. Second, I though you could only ssh into /home/~user. Maybe you could make your user so it can access other users files? like a semi-superUser?
[22:18] <ikonia> paul687: out of interest can you paste your /etc/network/interfaces file in a pastebin please.
[22:18] <Baatti> is there any good WebCam software for Ubuntu?
[22:18] <csilk> fyi Arbe, ssh2 has a sFTP facility that you can use with an ftp client that supports ssh2 such as gftp.
[22:19] <Arbe> Oh you're right. I downloaded that with PuTTY.
[22:19] <tr9stan> I need to know how make all my new windows open in the middle of my screen instead of the top left? Can someone help me?
[22:19] <csilk> you're using putty on linux?
[22:19] <Arbe> no, i'm on windows
[22:19] <csilk> oh
[22:19] <Arbe> connecting to linux server through PuTTY
[22:19] <Arbe> :P
[22:19] <csilk> ok in that case I don't think you can use gftp
[22:19] <Pici> Arbe: Are you running Ubuntu at all here?
[22:20] <Arbe> Yes
[22:20] <csilk> there is a windows equivalent though
[22:20] <Arbe> I should imagine there is, aha
[22:20] <Arbe> It wasn't a big problem, I was just interested
[22:20] <Arbe> I mainly came here incase I did have any problems. Right now the only thing confusing me is whether all the symbols that appear when I move around in Pico are actually being saved as part of the files i'm editing ..
[22:20] <csilk> Interesting that you thought the Ubuntu community could help your windows/web host problem
[22:20] <Arbe> aha.
[22:20] <Arbe> Sorry :P
[22:21] <paul687> ikonia: giving me an error message root@server:~# route del -net 0.0.0.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 gw 192.168.1.1 dev eth1 SIOCDELRT: No such process  http://paste.ubuntu.com/72564/
[22:21] <ikonia> paul687: drop the dev option
[22:21] <paul687> ikonia: ok
[22:22] <paul687> ikonia: same result
[22:22] <coz_> snikker,  hey guy ..sorry i was away from my system  and you were in # cairo-dock?
[22:22] <paul687> or drop everything and start from 0
[22:22] <paul687> ikonia: or drop everything and start from 0
[22:22] <Meshach> Hey Guys, I am trying to install xvidcap (it's a .deb file) and I'm using package installer to install it and it says "Error: dependency is not satisfiable: liblame0". What does that mean?
[22:23] <tensei> what is the terminal command to remove things, like to install its' sudo apt-get install... is there a sudo apt-remove???
[22:23] <ikonia> paul687: I assume your using sudo
[22:23] <Chousuke> Meshach: it means you should install from the repos
[22:23] <snikker> coz_: yes
[22:23] <coz_> snikker, ok if you still need help meet be back there :)
[22:23] <Meshach> tensei: sudo apt-get autoremove <application>
[22:23] <snikker> coz_: ok
[22:24] <Chousuke> Meshach: xvidcap is in multiverse
[22:24] <paul687> ikonia: to my opinion the eth1 should have another ip then the default gw yes I use sudo
[22:24] <Meshach> Chousuke: So unzip it and install it the normal way? :)
[22:24] <paul687> ikonia: in the network interfaces that is
[22:24] <tensei> meshach thanks
[22:24] <fryguy> tensei: apt-get remove
[22:24] <Chousuke> Meshach: hm?
[22:24] <Chousuke> Meshach: aptitude install xvidcap
[22:24] <Meshach> Chousuke: Thanks for the help.
[22:24] <Chousuke> Meshach: after you've enabled multiverse that is.
[22:25] <Meshach> Chousuke: How do I do that? Sorry... Only been using ubuntu for about a week.
[22:25] <rog_garcia> apt-build is great?
[22:25] <xFlipx> anybody willing to help with an install problem?
[22:25] <Chousuke> Meshach: hmm, I wonder what the recommended way is
[22:25] <xFlipx> ubuntu gets to splash screen then freezes
[22:25] <Chousuke> !multiverse
[22:26] <Chousuke> Meshach: check out those links
[22:26] <xFlipx> on both live cd and install options
[22:26] <Meshach> Chousuke: Will do. Thanks
[22:26] <admin_masu3701> hello there..i have a problem with my splash when the system boot
[22:26] <guntbert> ikonia: paul687's paste: two lines in eth1 look odd to me: network 192.168.1.1 and gateway 192.168.1.1
[22:26] <rog_garcia> The Realtek 81329D (reality one Silan) is supported in ubuntu 8.10?
[22:26] <admin_masu3701> the splash wont come up
[22:27] <admin_masu3701> it just come up at the login
[22:27] <xFlipx> splash is freezing install on me
[22:27] <Meshach> guys, I have another question. When you're doing UNIX programming the
[22:27] <Meshach> Excuse me accidentally hit enter, let's try that again.
[22:27] <dynavox> how can i get Xchat to Ident me automatically on login?
[22:27] <paul687> guntbert: I know and I stated this out to the other person that helped me out but he wanted me to try this
[22:27] <Meshach> When you are doing UNIX programming does the "|" character mean "and"?
[22:28] <Baatti> or
[22:28] <admin_masu3701> Meshah: it mean or
[22:28] <Meshach> Baatti: Thanks. What is the AND symbol?
[22:28] <Baatti> &&
[22:28] <Meshach> Baatti: Ah. That's good, I remember now, it's just like PHP
[22:28] <ikonia> paul687: sorry, I was distracted
[22:28] <Baatti> mhmm
[22:29] <paul687> ikonia: np
[22:29] <Baatti> lik almost all dev language
[22:29] <joebodo> !wifi
[22:29] <guntbert> paul687: ok, just stepping in late, so I don't know details :), wouldn't want to interfere
[22:29] <ikonia> paul687: lets look at this the easy way, can you pastebin your interfaces file
[22:29] <tensei> i have awn installed, i can't remember how I installed it, how do I get rid of it?!
[22:29] <paul687> http://paste.ubuntu.com/72564/
[22:29] <paul687> guntbert: no your not :-)
[22:29] <admin_masu3701> can anyone help me with splash
[22:30] <Meshach> !define Kernel
[22:30] <admin_masu3701> it doesnt come up when i booot
[22:30] <Meshach> admin_masu3701: You have to turn off automatic login
[22:30] <paul687> ikonia: changed the ip of the eth1 from 192.168.1.1 to 192.168.1.22 the change was sugested by musikgoat
[22:31] <paul687> ikonia: *back to
[22:31] <ikonia> paul687: what difference is that going ot make ?
[22:31] <dynavox> howdy, folks. can anyone recommend a decent DVD authoring app for Ubuntu?
[22:31] <ikonia> paul687: I don't know your network, hence the question ?
[22:31] <Meshach> admin_masu3701: System -> Administration -> Login Window
[22:31] <demonist> oh boy
[22:31] <demonist> is ubuntu strictly for people who want to save money?
[22:32] <paul687> ikonia: well if my ap has 192.168.1.1 and my eth1 as also the 192.168.1.1 then there is going to be a problem right
[22:32] <recon> HI are there any mouse touchpad gestures available in ubuntu?
[22:32] <Baatti> Brasero Disc Burn
[22:32] <Meshach> !who | Baatti
[22:32] <guntbert> !ot | demonist
[22:32] <gbear14275> is there a way to revert an ubuntu installation back to the default settings?
[22:32] <ikonia> paul687: apologies, I've got to leave
[22:32] <paul687> ikonia: no problem
[22:32] <Baatti> ok Meshach
[22:33] <paul687> guntbert:  can you help me out here perhaps easier in pm?
[22:33] <acu> I want to use one of my DV Camcorder (with firewire) as a Webcam - can anyone direct me to some solution ?
[22:33] <dynavox> Baatti, were you trying to help me?
[22:33] <Meshach> Baatti: No problem man. As long as you have there nickname in the message then it will alert them that they have a new message.
[22:33] <Baatti> dynavox:  yeah
[22:33] <guntbert> paul687: lets try it in the channel, can you restate your problem please?
[22:33] <Guest44215> Hello!
[22:33] <lenswipe> does anyone know how to share the homes folder in samba?
[22:33] <gbear14275> Is there a way to repair ubuntu/kubuntu installs?
[22:34] <dynavox> Baatti, Thanks! So, it's not just for burning disks. I can make a console-playable DVD using Brasero?
[22:34] <Meshach> Guest44215: Hello.
[22:34] <dr_willis> acu,  every time i ever tried that under windows.. the dv camcorder would auto-shut down after 5 min or so to save battery.. it did an ok picture.. but   i had to keep messing with it.
[22:34] <lenswipe> depending on the username and password typed i want the user to be given a different home directory
[22:34] <Baatti> gbear14275: there should be a repair option on the .iso when you boot
[22:34] <lenswipe> anyone got any ideas?
[22:34] <lenswipe> cos it worked before on gutsy
[22:34] <lenswipe> but it doesnt seem to work on hardy
[22:34] <paul687> guntbert: ok I have this setuo isp dlinkrouter with 192.168.0.1 => eth0 192.168.0.10 server eth1 192.168.1.22 and linksys ap
[22:34] <dr_willis> acu,  not tried under linux.. but   the sameissue may happen.
[22:34] <Baatti> dynavox: hrm, I'm not entirely sure to be honest...
[22:34] <lenswipe> anyone?
[22:34] <gbear14275> Baatti, so the best way would be to burn a new ISO?
[22:35] <gbear14275> and then wipe and reinstall?
[22:35] <dynavox> Baatti, thanks anyway. :)
[22:35] <Cloffy> Baatti: I think you're confusing it with Windows :p
[22:35] <lenswipe> oi
[22:35] <Baatti> gbear14275: yeah
[22:35] <Cloffy> Baatti: ..about the repair
[22:35] <Baatti> cloffy could be
[22:35] <gbear14275> baatti, thanks
[22:35] <Baatti> cloffy oh???
[22:35] <acu> dr_willis : what do you use in Linux - what application can be used to use my miniDV
[22:35] <lenswipe> *sings to get attention*
[22:35] <paul687> guntbert: I can ping from dlink towards my server but don't reach eth1 the same goes when I'm connected to the linksys however when I'm directly connected to eth1 I can ping eth1 and eth0
[22:35] <lenswipe> (8) Shooby dooby dooby...(8)
[22:35] <Baatti> cloffy I thought I saw a repair option on my install!
[22:35] <paul687> guntbert: but can't connect to the internet from eth1
[22:35] <Cloffy> Baatti: I did a couple installs today, but don't remember anything like that :-/
[22:35] <xFlipx> is there a way I can output the install text so I can see where this install is freezing?
[22:36]  * Meshach slaps lenswipe :P
[22:36] <neibo> lenswipe: google samba tutorial ubuntu
[22:36] <guntbert> paul687: I think we better pm :)
[22:36] <gbear14275> is the upgrade released yet?
[22:36] <hausha> How do I overwrite a folder and it's files with random data a couple of times to shred out the contents and properly delete
[22:36] <Baatti> Cloffy: yeah, I saw it on both Hardy and Intrepid
[22:36] <dr_willis> acu,  My latest minidv  i havent even tried the firewire on it.. its all digital..i plug it in via usb and it shows up as a usb hard drive..
[22:36] <lenswipe> neibo: i know how to work samba normaly its just this part isnt working
[22:36] <Cloffy> Baatti: a repair would probably be a new / install while leaving /home and /usr or smth alone :p
[22:36] <hhhh> !list
[22:36] <lenswipe> and neibo: there is nobody in #samba either
[22:36] <fryguy> hausha: /dev/urandom is a source of entropy-generated pseudorandom data, you can pipe the output of it into a file to overwrite it
[22:36] <Cloffy> Baatti: OK, my bad then
[22:36] <admin_masu3701> Meshach: how do i do that?
[22:37] <hausha> fryguy thanks I'll try that
[22:37] <Baatti> Cloffy: ah, gotcha, no, you are most likely correct about that
[22:37] <Baatti> I R GNEWB
[22:37] <fryguy> hausha: you might also want to look at the "shred" utility for performing reasonably secure deletes on files
[22:37] <Sandblasted> veetle in ubuntu how?
[22:37] <lenswipe> can someone please help me instead of filling the channel with useless crap
[22:37] <dr_willis> !find smbnetfs
[22:37] <fryguy> hausha: if you need to delete your entire hard drive, the DBAN boot CD is the recommended option
[22:37] <Baatti> lenswipe: what is your major malfunction?
[22:37] <Meshach> admin_masu3701: Go to System -> Administration -> Login Window then click on security tab and uncheck login automatically.
[22:38] <Pici> !attitude | lenswipe
[22:38] <gbear14275> !attitude
[22:38] <lenswipe> Pici: thats the kind of useless crap im reffering to
[22:38] <Sandblasted> question: veetle in ubuntu, how?
[22:38] <gbear14275> ... hmm was curious if that would do anything
[22:38] <Baatti> !kick lenswipe
[22:38] <Pici> lenswipe: Your attitude is whats causing you not to get answers.
[22:38] <admin_masu3701> Meshash: its uncheck
[22:38] <Baatti> :(
[22:38] <lenswipe> Baati: rather than sharing individual home directories i used to just share a folder called homes
[22:38] <dr_willis> lenswipe,  the default smb.conf file in the /etc/samba/ dir has comments that you uncomment to let each user access their own home directory as a share.. you MUST give the users a samba passwiord beforhand with 'sudo smbpasswd -a USERNAME' however
[22:38] <gbear14275> ok, sorry to bug everyone again, but can 32bit ubuntu support 4 gig's of ram with PAE extensions?
[22:39] <gbear14275> and are they turned on by default?
[22:39] <Sandblasted> i'm not lenswipe :)
[22:39] <Pici> gbear14275: Yes. The -server kernel supports PAE, -generic does not.
[22:39] <lenswipe> dr_willis: i want to shre the folder homes so that depending on the password typed each user gets a different share mapped to them
[22:39] <lenswipe> it used to work before
[22:39] <gbear14275> pici, so go 64bit desktop version if I need 4 gig of ram support?
[22:39] <lenswipe> i just shared a folder called homes
[22:39] <Cloffy> gbear14275: as far as I remember, 32bit architecture only supports 3GB RAM
[22:39] <acu> dr_willis ok I have a camera with usb and I can see as hard drive - but can I make it as usb webcam ? -- I have also a firewire camcorder (MiniDV)
[22:39] <dr_willis> lenswipe,  JUST the password/ not the username/password?
[22:39] <lenswipe> it no longer works in hardy for some reason
[22:39] <Sandblasted> veetle in ubuntu, how?
[22:39] <lenswipe> no the username and the password
[22:40] <dr_willis> lenswipe,  its working here for me under  8.10 same as it always has...
[22:40] <Pici> gbear14275: That would be the best if you need the restricted modules that are only built for the -generic kernels.
[22:40] <Sandblasted> cu cu ?
[22:40] <lenswipe> dr_willis: the user would map the network drive \\machinename\homes
[22:40] <gbear14275> Cloffy, there are ways to get around the 32 bit address limit although I am not an expert on them enough to speak about them in detail
[22:40] <lenswipe> type their login details in the box
[22:40] <lenswipe> and then they would get given their share
[22:40] <TheMafia> Where would I put the Shmconfg line in Intrepid so I can use gsynaptics?
[22:40] <Cloffy> gbear14275: oh, great, ok then
[22:40] <absion> Is there a way to restart the sound driver ...or something of that sort in Intrepid Ibex? After i suspend my laptop and it comes back from suspend i can never get any mp3s to play ...no sound...
[22:40] <lenswipe> and depending on the password they would ge a different shrae
[22:40] <Sandblasted> hmmmm
[22:40] <TheMafia> The xorg.conf file is nearly empty
[22:40] <jrib> !x > TheMafia
[22:40] <demonist> through the summer rain of 1845
[22:40] <Sandblasted> anyone out there?
[22:40] <dr_willis> lenswipe,  each gets their own home name.. yes..  user bgates gets \\server\bgates   and algore gets \\server\algore   actually i think each user sees it as \\machinename\home
[22:40] <demonist> the coach had finally arrived
[22:41] <billenium> When i attempt to login to ubuntu i just get a blank screen, then a grery box appears in the corner (top left).
[22:41] <Baatti> absion did you install all the codecs?
[22:41] <lolguy125> sup
[22:41] <absion> yes... it works when i restart ubuntu
[22:41] <Pici> demonist: Do you have an Ubuntu question or are you just going to say random things?
[22:41] <lenswipe> dr-willis: no, i mean rather than having it like that, its possible to just share a folder called homes so \\server\homes
[22:41] <lenswipe> dr_willis: like that
[22:41] <Baatti> absion then the issue is??
[22:41] <lolguy125> guys
[22:41] <lolguy125> i have
[22:41] <lolguy125> 1 thing
[22:41] <dr_willis> lenswipe,  for my user   \\BLACK\homes   is the same as \\BLACK\willis
[22:41] <lolguy125> to say
[22:41] <dr_willis> lenswipe,  they both work for him.
[22:41] <FloodBot2> lolguy125: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:42] <ironfroggy_> I am having trouble with ssh key auth between two boxes. actually only with one specific pair of keys.
[22:42] <lolguy125> DCC SEND ALLAHDURKAMOHAMMADJIHAD
[22:42] <hhhh> lista film
[22:42] <lenswipe> dr_willis: can we take this to PM please
[22:42] <dr_willis> black is my fileserver name. :) due to it having a black case.
[22:42] <absion> i was wondering if there's a way to just restart the driver/service without restarting the whole system
[22:42] <LjL> i kinda had that feeling.
[22:42] <lenswipe> dr_willis: its hard to explain in this busy chatroom
[22:42] <ironfroggy_> I've tried -vvv and I don't get any output telling me why the key is failing, but im sure its being tried
[22:42] <scientes> i installed uswswap and my old swap partition keeps showing up
[22:42] <Baatti> lol
[22:42] <scientes> that no longer exista
[22:42] <Julius_Caesar> http://www.microsoft.com/about/companyinformation/timeline/timeline/docs/di_Hobbyists.doc
[22:42] <Julius_Caesar> http://www.microsoft.com/about/companyinformation/timeline/timeline/docs/di_Hobbyists.doc
[22:42] <Julius_Caesar> http://www.microsoft.com/about/companyinformation/timeline/timeline/docs/di_Hobbyists.doc
[22:42] <dr_willis> lenswipe,   i can pastebin my smb.conf if you want..
[22:42] <scientes> how do i deal with this
[22:42] <ironfroggy_> and i've reverified that the fingerprint in my agent matches that of the public key in the remote authorized_keys
[22:42] <ironfroggy_> Anyone have a tip for debugging this from this point?
[22:42] <lenswipe> dr_willis: can we just take this toPM because its hard in this busy chatroom, thanks :)
[22:42] <lenswipe> !pm
[22:43] <declension> anyone got a clue how to fix this kinda error from wine; Error: API mismatch: the NVIDIA kernel module has version 177.80,
[22:43] <declension> but this NVIDIA driver component has version 177.82.  Please make
[22:43] <declension> sure that the kernel module and all NVIDIA driver components
[22:43] <declension> have the same version.?
[22:43] <fryguy> ironfroggy_: the permissions of public and private key files need to be very specific.  ssh -vvv should give you a clue as to what is wrong with the setup
[22:43] <arno-t> hi anyone got experience with comparing processors? I'd like to know what is best: a 2.4GHz Celeron or a 1.5GHz Pentium 4?
[22:43] <dr_willis> lenswipe,  http://pastebin.com/f2e163a99
[22:43] <dr_willis>      if you want to compare.. i gotta go check on the wife.. be back in 20 min or so.
[22:43] <fryguy> arno-t: would need to know quite a bit more than that about the processors
[22:43] <Pedro> hi could anyone help me configuring dwm for ubuntu? thanks
[22:43] <ironfroggy_> fryguy: ssh-add would complain about that, no?
[22:44] <ironfroggy_> local private key is readable only by me
[22:44] <fryguy> Pedro: dwm is configured by editing config.h and recompiling it.  as far as I know, ubuntu only provides a default configuration.  if you want to change it's configuration you will have to grab the source yourself
[22:44] <ironfroggy_> and its verified in my agent
[22:44] <sambagirl> if i have a ethernet connection from my macbook to my thinkpad do i need a cross over cable or can i just use a regular ehernet cable?
[22:44] <Pedro> fryguy: where do i grab the source
[22:44] <fryguy> Pedro: wwww.suckless.org/dwm i think is the url
[22:44] <Lin> hi. my gdm session is starting with wrong resolution in my LCD, leading to a blank screen, after I login my resolution back to work (1280x1024), how can I force GDM to start in that resolution?
[22:44] <Pedro> fryguy: it doesnt open here
[22:45] <Pedro> fryguy: are you sure thats it
[22:45] <Pedro> fryguy: firefox gives me an error
[22:45] <fryguy> Pedro: yes i'm sure that's it
[22:45] <fryguy> Pedro: http://www.suckless.org/dwm, according to the first google result
[22:45] <Pedro> fryguy: it doesnt open here
[22:45] <Baatti> lol, suckless
[22:46] <gbear14275> ok, i think my install is fubar
[22:46] <TheMafia> Anyone aware of any tricks to getting Evolution on Intrepid workign with Exchange? I have duplicated settings from a Gutsy system and still can't connect
[22:46] <fryguy> Pedro: sounds like your dns configuration is wonky then, it's dns entry hasn't been updated in quite some time so your dns provider shouldn't be out of date
[22:46] <Pedro> fryguy: what do you mean
[22:46] <gbear14275> I'm thinking about just going in and deleting repositories... there any reason... i SHOULDN'T do that?
[22:46] <Pedro> fryguy: how do i fix my dns
[22:46] <arno-t> fryguy, ok its a pentium 4 1.5GHz/256/400/1.75V well that's what is printed on it. And the celeron is according to /proc/cpuinfo 2.4Ghz 128kB cache, stepping 9, .. anything else?
[22:46] <high-freq> need help
[22:46] <high-freq> make: *** No rule to make target `include/config/auto.conf', needed by `include/config/kernel.release'.  Stop.
[22:47] <fryguy> Pedro: specify dns servers that resolve the domain correctly
[22:47] <Pedro> fryguy: how do i do that
[22:47] <high-freq> thats when i do sudo make oldconfig && make prepare
[22:47] <Tetracomm> Hello.
[22:47] <Baatti> peace
[22:47] <Tetracomm> Dkpg is working because of a libsigc++ error, help?: http://pastebin.com/d235be2ef
[22:47] <high-freq> in the kernel source...so how do i make oldconfig
[22:47] <fryguy> Pedro: a temporary way is to edit /etc/resolv.conf, if you are using dhcp to obtain information from your ip however you will need to change dhclient configuration so that it doesn't overwrite dns entries.  If you are using network manager change from roaming to dhcp and specify dns entries there.
[22:48] <Pedro> fryguy: what?
[22:48] <Pedro> fryguy: i dont know if i have dhcp or not
[22:48] <ironfroggy_> I'm curious, when watching the verbose output doing an ssh connection, it distinguishes between messages saying its "Offering public key:" and "Trying private key:" but what do those mean when they all the keys it tries are my private keys?
[22:48] <fryguy> Pedro: then you do
[22:48] <Pedro> i just turn my computer on and my internet instantly works
[22:48] <Pedro> fryguy: how do i fix it
[22:48] <fryguy> Pedro: i just told you
[22:49] <Guest18961> hii every body
[22:49] <Lin> hi
[22:49] <Pedro> fryguy: i didnt understand
[22:49] <Guest18961> helpp
[22:49] <stackd> how do i run this .iso file on windows?
[22:49] <Pedro> fryguy: i need to edit this /etc/resolv.conf?
[22:49] <Pedro> fryguy: ok hold on
[22:49] <fryguy> Pedro: i can't make it clearer
[22:49] <ironfroggy_> stackd: you dont run an ISO
[22:49] <stackd> it wont run and i want to run lunix ;/
[22:49] <Lin> stackd: iso file should be burn on a cd
[22:49] <xubuser> Hello People.
[22:49] <fryguy> stackd: you can use daemontools to mount an iso image in windows
[22:49] <xubuser> is Urban Terror in one of the ubuntu repos?
[22:49] <fryguy> stackd: which will allow you to view the contents of it and run it
[22:49] <Guest18961> exit
[22:49] <ironfroggy_> stackd: have you ever "run lunix" before?
[22:50] <stackd> i think so
[22:50] <stackd> i think it ran 1 rtime but not sure ;/
[22:50] <jlaroche> could anyone help me with getting my 7.1 speakers working in ubuntu (I am running version 8.10 64bit)
[22:50] <Pedro> fryguy: when i try to edit it it says "permission denied"
[22:50] <Pedro> and then it doesnt let me open it
[22:50] <fryguy> Pedro: you need to have root permission to do it
[22:51] <Pedro> fryguy: ?
[22:51] <ns5> hello?
[22:51] <ns5> I am having name server woes
[22:51] <ironfroggy_> stackd: you should probably play around with a Live CD before doing any installation.
[22:51] <ns5> with the BIND tool
[22:51] <ironfroggy_> ns5: is your nick just a coincidence?
[22:51] <jlaroche> hello everyone. I need some help setting up 7.1 speakers in Ubuntu 8.10 (64bit)
[22:51] <ns5> yeah
[22:51] <fryguy> Pedro: are you sure the domain doesn't work as provided?  I highly doubt your isp is giving you a dns server with a hole at this one domain
[22:51] <Myrtti> Pedro: sudo nano /etc/resolv.conf
[22:51] <fryguy> jlaroche: what's wrong with them
[22:51] <Pedro> fryguy: it doesnt open
[22:51] <Pedro> firefox does even give out any errors
[22:52] <Pedro> Myrtti:
[22:52] <Pedro> Myrtti: bash: sudo: command not found
[22:52] <ironfroggy_> Pedro: define "doesnt open"
[22:52] <jlaroche> fryguy: they are not working - only getting sound out of my front left and front right speakers
[22:52] <ewtwetewt325> ow do i Flood People off  with UDP Perl? =)
[22:52] <Pedro> ironfroggy_: it just gives me a blank page
[22:52] <Pedro> and doesnt do anything
[22:52] <fryguy> jlaroche: what are you playing to test?
[22:52] <jlaroche> fryguy: i am using songbird
[22:52] <fryguy> jlaroche: playing back mp3s?
[22:53] <Pedro> fryguy: i just tried to open it with gedit instead of kedit and now it says the file doesnt exist
[22:53] <Pedro> fryguy: wtf
[22:53] <Pedro> just tell me how i get the source for dwm
[22:53] <ironfroggy_> Pedro: maybe the site's server is down?
[22:53] <jlaroche> fryguy: yeah. Also... I dualboot between ubuntu and winxp and I have 7.1 in xp (under itunes and whatever other software)
[22:53] <fryguy> jlaroche: almost every mp3 is only recorded in 2 channel stereo, it doesn't contain any sonic information in the rear or center channels, so there is ntohing for the speakers to play back
[22:53] <mnemonic_> buenas
[22:53] <sXs`Lereyn-> Bonsoir, quelqu'un peut-il m'aider a comprendre pourquoi quand je vais sur mes sites hebergé sur mon dédié je telecharge les fichiers php ?
[22:53] <Pedro> ironfroggy_: fryguy said it was working for him................
[22:53] <ironfroggy_> Pedro: maybe you're trying to fix a problem that doesn't actually exist?
[22:53] <Pici> !fr | sXs`Lereyn-
[22:53] <fryguy> Pedro: i did tell you how to get it.  I'm sorry that your isp doesn't resolve that domain, there is nothing i can do about that
[22:53] <ewtwetewt325> how Overlaod to the udp Flooding ?
[22:53] <Fephisto> Hey, some questions about ubuntu:  If it works on wubi, will it necessarily work on normal ubuntu install?  (i.e., I won't have to worry about not having the drivers if it works on wubi)  Also, do I have to worry much about networking or will it autoconfig?  (I now pretty much nothing about networking despite my experimentation).  I'm half-considering wiping my current system with Vista and...
[22:53] <Fephisto> ...going totally Ubuntu, thanks.
[22:53] <jlaroche> fryguy: it works fine in windows
[22:54] <ironfroggy_> Pedro: maybe it has to do with your session there. maybe its a bug in their code and its crashing like that.
[22:54] <ironfroggy_> try some browser other than firefox?
[22:54] <hipdad> hello?
[22:54] <Pedro> ironfroggy_: like what?
[22:54] <ironfroggy_> or try it in a different profile or after clearing your cookies/?
[22:54] <Pedro> ironfroggy_: i dont have any other browsers
[22:54] <fryguy> jlaroche: the player you are using in windows probably has a signal processor that generates fake sound information, take a look at similar options for players in linux
[22:54] <ironfroggy_> konqueror?
[22:54] <fryguy> !players | jlaroche
[22:54] <ironfroggy_> whatever gnome ships with?
[22:54] <hipdad> anybody know how to get cups-pdf to work for all users not just root?
[22:54] <jaiFai> Pedro,  opera
[22:54] <ns5> I really like the ubuntu distro I must have a few of these around and they really get their stuff done, with zsh and some fluxbox they can be a real wonder
[22:54] <ns5> but uh
[22:54] <Pici> Fephisto: If it works fine in Wubi, then it will work fine for a full install.  The only possible issues that I can think of would be RAID related.
[22:54] <icqnumber> !codecs
[22:54] <ns5> BIND is really tricky
[22:54] <Pedro> jaiFai: how do i install it
[22:55] <Pici> !who
[22:55] <xubuser> is there any games in the ubuntu repos? shoot em ups?
[22:55] <Fephisto> Pici:  thanks.
[22:55] <jaiFai> synapshit
[22:55] <Fephisto> #leave
[22:55] <jlaroche> ubottu: so its songbird
[22:55] <Pici> jaiFai: Watch your language here, thats not appropriate.
[22:55] <Pici> !bot | jlaroche
[22:55] <Pedro> jaiFai: im sorry?
[22:56] <jaiFai> i didnt know the spoonfeeding was allow sorry
[22:56] <jaiFai> pedro i think you need to ask someone else
[22:56] <jlaroche> too bad... songbird is the most intuitive and esthetically  pleasing music player I've seen in linux
[22:56] <high-freq> where the hell is the kernel src at
[22:56] <Pedro> jaiFai: like who?
[22:56] <high-freq> in /usr/src right?
[22:56] <Pedro> jaiFai: cant you help me?
[22:56] <Pici> !kernel > high-freq
[22:56] <levidos> where should i store my music files? in my home folder or on a separate ntfs partition?
[22:57] <levron> god I love ubuntu
[22:57] <Pedro> sheesh
[22:57] <Pedro> i thought there were competent people in here
[22:57] <jaiFai> like someone that has the time to spoon feed how to install a borwser in unubtu?
[22:57] <DIFH-iceroot> levron: /home
[22:57] <fryguy> levron: whatever you want.  I store mine on an nfs-mounted raid array
[22:57] <raboof> high-freq: yeah iirc - try 'dpkg -L whateverpackageholdsthekernelsource'
[22:57] <Pici> Pedro: Whats the problem?
[22:57] <levron> lol levidos was asking
[22:57] <Pedro> jaiFai: and that someone would be?
[22:57] <levron> not me
[22:57] <levidos> :)
[22:57] <Pedro> Pici: i cant access http://www.suckless.org/dwm/
[22:57] <Pedro> Pici: I need help configuring dwm
[22:58] <niklaus> can I download some files via rsync?
[22:58] <Pici> Pedro: Can you access any websites?
[22:58] <high-freq> raboof, i'm just tryin to figure out why my friggin virtualbox aint workin now
[22:58] <jaiFai> Pedro,  i dont help people that expect support
[22:58] <Pedro> Pici: yeah
[22:58] <Pedro> Pici: just that
[22:58] <fryguy> !work | high-freq
[22:58] <jaiFai> i help ppl that give feedback
[22:58] <Pedro> jaiFai: i want support but its not my fault that you just refuse to help
[22:58] <itson> how come mount -t smbfs -o username=bla,password=bla //bla/bla /mnt/bla doesnt work?
[22:59] <Pedro> jaiFai: what kind of feedback can i give when i dont even get stuff to work
[22:59] <high-freq> VirtualBox kernel driver not installed. The vboxdrv kernel module was either not loaded or /dev/vboxdrv was not created for some reason. Re-setup the kernel module by executing '/etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup' as root.
[22:59] <fryguy> !work | itson
[22:59] <high-freq> and let one person say run that command bs
[22:59] <high-freq> course i did
[22:59] <fryguy> high-freq: so install the kernel module for it, it's right in ubuntu repositories
[22:59] <Codemaster|Mobil> so this is odd... initially my gnome panels weren't working at all, but i reinstalled ubuntu-desktop and now they thankfully are. However, now my fonts seem to be much different, my awn doc has stopped working, and my background doesn't show up... this is really getting annoying
[22:59] <Pici> Pedro: Can you ping suckless.org ? This doesnt look like a browser issue to me.
[22:59] <jaiFai> Pedro,  GOOGLE  howto install opera in ubuntu ... you are just being a pain
[23:00] <fryguy> high-freq: apt-cache search virtualbox, and what you need to install should be obvious
[23:00] <high-freq> i'll check again
[23:00] <Maeva> is there a default P2P client in ubuntu 8.10 (gnome) ?
[23:00] <Codemaster|Mobil> anyone have any ideas?
[23:00] <ph8> hi all - i've got no sound (but i do have video) in flash vids in firefox on intrepid - any idea what i can do?
[23:00] <Pedro> jaiFai: if you want to help someone that expects support but just tell them to google their problem, why even bother responding
[23:00] <fryguy> Maeva: transmission is the default client i think
[23:00] <Codemaster|Mobil> Maeva: the bittorrent one, transmission
[23:00] <itson> i am trying to mount a shared network drive though samba, but mount -t smbfs is not the right command i dont think.. can someone help me mount this share?
[23:00] <Pedro> Pici: it times out here
[23:00] <Pici> jaiFai: Enough with the attitude, If you don't want to provide support here we're not forcing you to stay.
[23:00] <Maeva> thanks guys
[23:00] <Ktj> hi
[23:00] <high-freq> fryguy, not the ose version
[23:01] <Ktj> anybody know how is xfire client called for ubuntu?
[23:01] <jaiFai> Pici,
[23:01] <jaiFai> shut up!
[23:01] <Ganandorf> hey guys i am using gimp as teh alternative to photoshop and i want to add more fonts, brushes, and soem eyelash stuff i download they are in gih/gif but i can't copy them into the  respected folders what do i do
[23:01] <Neodemi> is there something equivalent to netstat in ubuntu?
[23:01] <ph8> erm
[23:01] <ph8> netstat?
[23:01] <fryguy> Neodemi: netstat is in ubuntu
[23:01] <ph8> it's there..
[23:01] <Neodemi> dah
[23:01] <Neodemi> doh*
[23:01] <Codemaster|Mobil> so this is odd... initially my gnome panels weren't working at all, but i reinstalled ubuntu-desktop and now they thankfully are. However, now my fonts seem to be much different, my awn doc has stopped working, and my background doesn't show up... this is really getting annoying
[23:01] <Pici> Pedro: I'm guessing its a routing issue then, because I can access it here. Using a different browser won't help
[23:02] <Pedro> Pici: how do i fix it then?
[23:02] <Pedro> i really wanted to get dwm working today
[23:02] <yard_> open up a terminal  and  type  netstat
[23:02] <kernando> hello. how can i get chinese characters option in amsn?? i still want my comptuer to run english but just hace to option in amsn to type in chinese characters
[23:02] <Pici> Pedro: If you can access other websites, and not this one, and it works for me, then it sounds like something outside of your control.
[23:02] <Neodemi> i see it now. why didnt i think of trying that earlier
[23:02] <Pedro> Pici: is there any other way of installing dwm?
[23:03] <fryguy> Pedro: if you don't like the configuration that ubuntu provides, then no
[23:03] <ewtwetewt325> how Overlaod to the udp Flooding ?
[23:03] <Ktj> xfire client for ubuntu?
[23:03] <Pici> Pedro: You can try asking in #dwm at irc.oftc.net
[23:03] <high-freq> anyone familiar with virtualbox and not the virtualbox-ose
[23:03] <ewtwetewt325> ow do i Flood People off  with UDP Perl? =)
[23:03] <transporter> hello
[23:03] <Pici> ewtwetewt325: We do not support such things in this channel.
[23:03] <Codemaster|Mobil> so no one has any idea how to fix this very frequent issue?
[23:03] <Pedro> Pici: i see thanks
[23:03] <Pedro> fryguy: thanks
[23:03] <fryguy> Pedro: don't bother doing that.  #dwm is oriented to people who know how to compile and write source code.  They will likely ignore you if you come in there asking how to download it.
[23:03] <Codemaster|Mobil> i get this stupid issue every few months
[23:03] <Codemaster|Mobil> it's highly annoying and no one can ever help
[23:03] <ewtwetewt325> attack in Method who perl hash ??
[23:04] <Aero745> Hello everyone, I have interpid thinkpad laptop and after reinstalling open office packages yesterday I noticed my sound stopped working today, can someone help me diagnose.  I also noticed that my alsamixer has only one bar "master" usually it has a ton of them
[23:04] <Pedro> fryguy: oh........
[23:04] <Codemaster|Mobil> i swear, i should just switch to another distro
[23:04] <Pici> fryguy: He can't access the website from his location, they might have a mirror.
[23:04] <fryguy> Codemaster|Mobil: luckily there are plenty to choose from
[23:04] <fryguy> Pici: no
[23:04] <Aero745> Codemaster what's the problem?
[23:05] <ewtwetewt325> stop Hack the irc
[23:05] <Codemaster|Mobil> Aero745: i had a few issues this morning - no gnome-panels were showing up at all, so i reinstalled ubuntu-desktop and now all of the fonts are odd (ie - bigger), my theme isn't being used, and my background isn't showing up
[23:05] <ewtwetewt325> using Perl for attrack you ach Me
[23:05] <Aero745> codemaster: on a fresh install?
[23:05] <fryguy> Pedro: might have something to do with 17:51:38     stackd| i think so
[23:05] <fryguy> 17:51:46     stackd| i think it ran 1 rtime but not sure ;/
[23:05] <fryguy> whoops
[23:05] <Pedro> fryguy: what?
[23:06] <fryguy> Pedro: might have something to do with WEEVIL.PWNS.MS
[23:06] <Codemaster|Mobil> Aero745: no, this was installed weeks ago, then i stopped using my laptop for a week or so, booted it up again and had this issue
[23:06] <fryguy> Pedro: probably call your ISP
[23:06] <Codemaster|Mobil> almost as if it broke itself, annoyingly enough
[23:06] <Ganandorf> i am using gimp 2.0 how do i update it to teh newest version
[23:06] <Pedro> fryguy: my isp is really bad :( but ill try thanx
[23:06] <Aero745> Codemaster|Mobil: As I understand, your login screen shows up fine, you log in and you get nothing but a black desktop?
[23:07] <r0lly> HOLA
[23:07] <Codemaster|Mobil> Aero745: that was the issue this morning; i reinstalled ubuntu-desktop and the gnome-panels show up, now, but the fonts are messed up, background doesn't show up, and it isn't using the theme it is set to supposed to be using
[23:07] <arno-t> fryguy, I saw the discussion took off a bit up there... :( ok its a pentium 4 1.5GHz/256/400/1.75V - well that's what is printed on it. And the celeron is according to /proc/cpuinfo 2.4Ghz 128kB cache, stepping 9, .. anything else I should detail?
[23:07] <r0lly> spanish
[23:08] <fryguy> arno-t: processor stepping, core revision, fsb.
[23:08] <Aero745> Codemaster|Mobil: so you have theme/font issues on a fresh install?
[23:08] <nothing12345> does anyone have cedega?
[23:08] <Codemaster|Mobil> Aero745: semi-fresh, yes
[23:09] <starenka> !es "
[23:09] <declension> Nov 16 00:00:26 nzxt kernel: [ 7812.854347] NVRM: API mismatch: the client has the version 177.82, but this kernel module has the version 177.80.....? -should i unistall 178.80 and reinstall 178.82? -any clue anyone?
[23:09] <starenka> !es | r0lly
[23:09] <nothing12345> I get only 15 fps when I want to play counterstrike source with wine 1.0 :(
[23:09] <Aero745> Codemaster|Mobil:  Semi-fresh?  Where did you get your distro?  I'm just trying to trace the cause of the problem because this shouldn't happen on a fresh install
[23:10] <Codemaster|Mobil> Aero745: this is normal intrepid
[23:10] <Aero745> from the website?
[23:10] <Codemaster|Mobil> yes
[23:10] <jordan_> how can you see what version of ubuntu you got?
[23:10] <arno-t> fryguy, well I can't see those in cpuinfo... any tool/program to get those values?
[23:10] <fryguy> !version | jordan_
[23:10] <Codemaster|Mobil> i've installed compiz, eclipse, a few other things and used it for a week or two so it's not necessarily fresh
[23:10] <Aero745> can you fix the fonts by going to System>Pref>appearance?
[23:10] <fryguy> arno-t: no
[23:10] <Codemaster|Mobil> but not much has been changed
[23:10] <Codemaster|Mobil> Aero745: i'll see
[23:11] <fryguy> Codemaster|Mobil: compiz is installed by default, what exactly did you do
[23:11] <Codemaster|Mobil> Aero745: if i switch the rendering around, nothing changes
[23:11] <seriousstorm85> hi, i have recently upgraded to Ibex but for some reason i can't seem to find my router from the available wireless in previous ubuntu versions i didn't have this prblem and i even upgraded to ibex using my wireless router
[23:11] <Aero745> Codemaster|Mobil: Go to the "fonts" tab, and play around with that.  I don't know what you mean by "messed up" is the antialiasing not working or font too small?
[23:11] <Codemaster|Mobil> the font's too large
[23:11] <joebodo> !wifi
[23:11] <Codemaster|Mobil> and my theme isn't being used, more or less
[23:11] <arno-t> fryguy, ok would the best maybe be benchmarking with some tool, reboot and try with the other cpu then benchmark that, maybe?
[23:12] <Aero745> so if you reduce the font size there, the old font remains?
[23:12] <MeRodent> Codemaster|Mobil, you haven't changed screen res have you?
[23:12] <fryguy> arno-t: probably
[23:12] <Codemaster|Mobil> yes i have
[23:12] <samurai> hi all
[23:12] <Codemaster|Mobil> Aero745: such as if i set it to human, the title bar is a turquoise color, instead of brown
[23:12] <r0lly> olazz
[23:12] <r0lly> hello
[23:12] <r0lly> speake spanish??
[23:12] <fryguy> !es | r0lly
[23:12] <samurai> can someone answer a compiz-fusion/intrepid question
[23:12] <fryguy> !ask | samurai
[23:12] <MeRodent> !es > r0lly
[23:13] <Meshach> Hello all. I installed xvidcap and when I try to record something it closes.
[23:13] <r0lly> ok
[23:13] <kindofabuzz> how do i remove files in a dir but keep one dir that's in that dir =)
[23:13] <Aero745> I don't know what to tell you codemaster, it seems like some config file was changed to mess it up, you can try reinstalling GDM if you want - just back everything up
[23:13] <richard_> Firefox 3.0.4 is out  and  cannot see it on the repos, how do i do to 3.0.4 appear on the repos, or add mozilla repos?
[23:13] <Codemaster|Mobil> Aero745: lovely :/
[23:13] <Codemaster|Mobil> how would i go about reinstalling GDM entirely
[23:13] <fryguy> kindofabuzz: probably the easiest way is to move that one dir to like /tmp, delete everything, then move it back
[23:13] <seriousstorm85> hi, i have recently upgraded to Ibex but for some reason i can't seem to find my router from the available wireless in previous ubuntu versions i didn't have this prblem and i even upgraded to ibex using my wireless router
[23:14] <kindofabuzz> fryguy, ok, no filters for rm?
[23:14] <samurai> fryguy: I have just upgraded to intrepid on a machine. Compiz and all worked fine before. I have an nvidia graphics card whose driver is being used currently but each time I try to get compiz-fusion working it complains about an intel driver
[23:14] <Aero745> Codemaster|Mobil: this isn't a common problem, and I'm sure ubuntu didn't detect the fact that you haven't used it for a while and broke itself, sorry I can't be more help
[23:14] <fryguy> kindofabuzz: depends on what you need to do
[23:14] <icqnumber> !info libpam-keyring
[23:14] <Aero745> I'm not sure what else to tell you
[23:14] <Codemaster|Mobil> Aero745: so how would i completely reinstall gdm
[23:14] <icqnumber> !info libpam-gnome-keyring
[23:14] <fryguy> richard_: it won't be in the repositories for a while (and i think ubuntu policy won't put it there until version 9.04)
[23:15] <nintendork32> help, the terminal isnt loading
[23:15] <Lin> hi. my gdm session is starting with wrong resolution leading to a blank screen, after I login my resolution back to work (1280x1024), how can I force GDM to start in that resolution (1280x1024)?
[23:15] <Aero745> codemaster|Mobil: so if you reinstall ubuntu-desktop you think this problem will come back?
[23:15] <Codemaster|Mobil> Aero745: I've already done that :/
[23:15] <Codemaster|Mobil> Aero745: that's what fixed the panels
[23:15] <richard_> fryguy, then how do i do? , Download the .deb and install? first uninstall 3.03? if yes how :p
[23:15] <richard_> :D
[23:15] <Aero745> In that case, if he themes aren't being applied on a fresh install, I'd say your ubuntu image is bad
[23:16] <fryguy> richard_: you are on your own for doing package maintenance outside of what is provided in the ubuntu repositories
[23:16] <Aero745> try validating it
[23:16] <seriousstorm85> hi, i have recently upgraded to Ibex but for some reason i can't seem to find my router from the available wireless in previous ubuntu versions i didn't have this prblem and i even upgraded to ibex using my wireless router
[23:16] <Codemaster|Mobil> Aero745: it's not completely fresh, i'd say it's a few weeks old, so
[23:16] <Meshach> I installed xvidcap and when I try to record something it closes. I'm using Ubuntu 8.10
[23:16] <ironfroggy_> ok so could someone tell me the difference between 'Offering public key: some key here' and 'Trying private key: some other key' and why ssh says one or the other about a particular key?
[23:16] <nintendork32> hmm ever since yesterday ubuntu has sucked
[23:16] <nintendork32> everything crashing
[23:17] <nintendork32> and i am not reinstalling ubuntu i have already done that once
[23:17] <fryguy> ironfroggy_: ssh works by exchanging a pair of keys, one which is publicly available, and another which is known only to you (typically called id_rsa on modern versions of ssh).  A key-exchange occurs so that both the ssh client and the ssh server can verify the integrity of keys and the identify of the user connecting
[23:18] <Meshach> nintendork32: You must be doing something wrong..
[23:18] <nintendork32> Meshach what can i do wrong by going to Aplications-Aceesories->terminal
[23:18] <ironfroggy_> fryguy: this is all stuff i understand. but i dont understand why it says its "Offering public key" in this particular instance, and giving the location of what is, in fact, a private key file.
[23:18] <Insectoid> I'd ask in #wubi but it looks to be empty: Does wubi modify the vista bcd store?
[23:18] <seriousstorm85> hi, i have recently upgraded to Ibex but for some reason i can't seem to find my router from the available wireless in previous ubuntu versions i didn't have this prblem and i even upgraded to ibex using my wireless router
[23:18] <Billy> i have vista and ubuntu dual booting. I want to remove ubuntu (as im going to install 8.04 instead of 8.10) but I don't want to wreck it such that I can't boot into vista, whats the best way to go about that?
[23:18] <fryguy> ironfroggy_: what is the file that it is offering
[23:19] <nintendork32> Think i should update to 8.10
[23:19] <jordan_> i just dled flash player and then i try to play something in firefox and it says don't have flash player, how do i check if i have it installed?
[23:19] <Meshach> nintendork32: Lots of things go wrong when you type the wrong thing in the terminal.
[23:19] <nintendork32> ive heard bad things abour it
[23:19] <fryguy> jordan_: about:plugins
[23:19] <nintendork32> Mesach i cant open it
[23:19] <fryguy> nintendork32: so then don't upgrade
[23:19] <Meshach> nintendork32: It's not bad. Very good.
[23:19] <Codemaster|Mobil> Billy: if you remove 8.10 and install 8.04, it'll still install grub and let you boot into vista
[23:19] <nintendork32> fryguy: i havent done it
[23:19] <ironfroggy_> it is my /home/ironfroggy/web.id_rsa which is the private key for the web user at the remote box
[23:19]  * nintendork32 updates
[23:20] <Billy> Codemaster|Mobil, will it not leave ubuntu 8.10 in the menu?
[23:20] <fryguy> ironfroggy_: why do you have the private key of another machine
[23:20] <Codemaster|Mobil> well, i'll try to reinstall gnome, i hope it works
[23:20] <jlaroche> Thanks for the help guys.
[23:20] <Codemaster|Mobil> Billy: it wont have 8.10
[23:20] <mepholic> 𝑺𝑼𝑷 𝑮𝑼𝒀𝑺
[23:20] <ironfroggy_> fryguy: to authenticate when i access it?
[23:21] <Billy> Codemaster|Mobil, cheers, will give it a go
[23:21] <fryguy> ironfroggy_: you are doing this backwards and wrong
[23:21] <thompa> Hi. how do I purge kubuntu-desktop?
[23:21] <jordan_> fryguy what do you mean about:plugins you mean in firefox?
[23:21] <ironfroggy_> i have to have my private key in order to authenticate as the remote user, correct?
[23:21] <fryguy> ironfroggy_: if you want to connect to a remote machine, you generate a public private key pair, and put the public key into authorized_keys on the remote machine
[23:21] <Aero745> Hello everyone, I have interpid thinkpad laptop and after reinstalling open office packages yesterday I noticed my sound stopped working today, can someone help me diagnose.  I also noticed that my alsamixer has only one bar "master" usually it has a ton of them
[23:22] <ironfroggy_> fryguy: yes... thats what i have.
[23:22] <ironfroggy_> i have the private key here and it has the public key in authorized_keys. thats what ive said.
[23:22] <fryguy> ironfroggy_: so why do you have the private key of another machine
[23:22] <jordan_> how do you get rid of joining and leaving messages in xchat?
[23:22] <ironfroggy_> and i know this has worked in the past. it was used to checkout my working copy (svn) and now i can't update.
[23:22] <ironfroggy_> because i can't authenticate.
[23:22] <dr_willis> jordan_ right click on the tabs/channels and its in the menu items
[23:22] <fryguy> ironfroggy_: like i said, you are doing it backwards and wrong
[23:22] <ironfroggy_> fryguy: i dont understand what you are saying. i have exactly the setup you described me as needing.
[23:23] <ironfroggy_> i have my private key _here_
[23:23] <ironfroggy_> and the other machine has the matching public key _there_
[23:23] <ironfroggy_> isnt that precisely what you said?
[23:23] <zsquareplusc> ironfroggy_: mannuall yuse ssh to connect once (not using svn). does it print errors? maybe the server fungerprint has changed, or your key has wrong permissions
[23:23] <fryguy> ironfroggy_: yes, and that's not what you were asking about before.  before you were claiming that ssh was using the private key of another machine
[23:23] <cloudy_nz> fungerprint?
[23:23] <LF|Irssi> lol
[23:24] <zsquareplusc> thanks for proofreading :-)
[23:24] <ironfroggy_> zsquareplusc: that is what i am trying to test it. i verified the fingerprints all match. i get no errors, it simply says its trying the key but then goes on to try others. i assume the key fails. and then it asks me for a password.
[23:24] <ironfroggy_> the user has no password.
[23:25] <fryguy> does the private key file have the correct permissions?
[23:25] <ironfroggy_> fryguy: i dont understand what you mean there, but that isnt my situation. my situation is, in fact, as you describe it should be.
[23:25] <ironfroggy_> yes.
[23:25] <ironfroggy_> if it didnt, ssh-add would have refused it.
[23:25] <jordan> So firefox still thinks i don't have flash player?
[23:25] <LF|Irssi> Its ok Jorden Opera in ubuntu refuses to think i have Java
[23:26] <mEck0> hi! I removed my printer from CUPS web-interface, then I saw there was a segmentation fault and I wasn't enable to click on any links in the interface anymore, got like page cannot be shown... so I rebooted ubuntu 8.10 and though it would be ok, but now I can't even log in into ubuntu :( doesn't work with gnome or not even via a terminal :( what can I do? I have access to a root terminal from recovery mode. can I list user accounts from the t
[23:26] <fryguy> ironfroggy_: then you don't have the authorized key file set up correctly on the remote machine.
[23:26] <Dominik2> how can I set up printer shareing, and or file shareing over a wirless router network (internet -> router -> 3 laptops, id like those laptops to be able to comunicate)
[23:27] <ironfroggy_> fryguy: thats the first thing i checked. it contains the matching public key.
[23:27] <zsquareplusc> ironfroggy_: so you have added your private key to your local ssh-agent? or are you passing it on the command line?
[23:27] <kemalist> ubuntu seems to provide random problems on my Compaq Presario C795EL
[23:27] <kemalist> it panics randomly
[23:27] <varlena> Can someone give me the executive summary of the risks of updating to ubuntu 10?  I won't have to reload stuff I've apt-get'd will I?
[23:27] <fryguy> ironfroggy_: then to the best of my knowledge your installation of ssh is broken on either the client or the server. I don't know what else to offer you
[23:29] <PeskyJ> I just plugged in a scanner and ran X-sane which seems to eb what comes with ubuntu, it complains a lot about no colour ICC/ICM profile and I've had a search and can't find one for this scanner (Epson CX6400) - is there such a thing as a default profile I can use?
[23:29] <zsquareplusc> ironfroggy_: if the server was updated and your key is some months old, it maybe one of the ones suffering from that security issue. thus the server might have a blacklist and reject your key
[23:29] <damian__> how can I get my wireless to work?
[23:29] <raboof> the hardy rt kernel (2.6.24) has better MIDI performance compared to the intrepid one (2.6.27)
[23:30] <mepholic> 𝑺𝑼𝑷 𝑮𝑼𝒀𝑺. 𝑫𝑶𝑬𝑺𝑵'𝑻 𝑼𝑵𝑰𝑪𝑶𝑫𝑬 𝑹𝑬𝑨𝑳𝑳𝒀 𝑅𝐸𝐴𝐿𝐿𝑌 𝐑𝐄𝐀𝐋𝐋𝐘 𝕣𝕖𝕒𝕝𝕝𝕪 𝖱𝖤𝖠𝖫𝖫𝖸 𝗋𝖾𝖺𝗅𝗅𝗒 𝗥𝗘𝗔𝗟𝗟𝗬 𝗿𝗲𝗮𝗹𝗹𝘆 𝘙𝘌𝘈𝘓𝘓𝘠 𝘳𝘦𝘢𝘭𝘭𝘺 𝙍𝙀𝘼𝙇𝙇𝙔 𝙧𝙚𝙖𝙡𝙡𝙮 𝚁𝙴𝙰𝙻𝙻𝚈 𝚛𝚎𝚊𝚕𝚕𝚢 𝒓𝒆𝒂𝒍𝒍
[23:30] <mepholic> 𝒚 𝑟𝑒𝑎𝑙𝑙𝑦 𝐫𝐞𝐚𝐥𝐥𝐲 𝑺𝑼𝑪𝑲
[23:30] <kemalist> ubuntu seems to provide random problems on my Compaq Presario C795EL
[23:30] <kemalist> and what's worse, i can't force halfduplex
[23:30] <raboof> trying to diagnose why, i noticed /proc/interrupts showed a 'radeon' entry on 2.6.27, not on 2.6.24. what might cause that?
[23:30] <zsquareplusc> ironfroggy_: do you have access to the servers /var/log/auth? check that for messages
[23:31] <Pedro> ��� ����. �����'� ������� ������ ������ ������ ������ ������ ������ ������ ������ ������ ������ ������ ������ ������ ������
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[23:31] <Pedro> ＳＵＰ ＧＵＹＳ
[23:31] <raboof> ???? ?? ?????? ??. ??.
[23:31] <n9xph> damian do you have the wireless driver for your network adapter?
[23:31] <NsOmNiAc> has anyone seen problems connecting to a windows shared drives since installing Intrepid ?
[23:32] <varlena> Doesn't anyone have opinions on risks to upgrading to 8.10?
[23:32] <Sniff> join #kav
[23:32] <vaurdan> Hey
[23:32] <zsquareplusc> NsOmNiAc: are you asking because you have? if so. is there an error message?
[23:32] <n9xph> nsomniac I had a problem with that also
[23:32] <Pedro> ������ ������ ������ ������� ������ �������� ������ ����'� ���
[23:32] <fryguy> varlena: upgrading rendered my systems useless
[23:32] <Pedro> ������ ������ ������ ����
[23:32] <NsOmNiAc> I could with the version before Intrepid but when a fresh install of Intrepid no longer able to see the shared windows drives and other samba shared drives on teh network
[23:32] <vaurdan> I've a problem. How do I activate my PC Speaker on ubuntu? I need to work with it on a application
[23:32] <NsOmNiAc> n9xph: How did you resolve the issue ?
[23:33] <varlena> fryguy, you're kidding, right?
[23:33] <fryguy> varlena: no
[23:33] <vaurdan> cause when I do "beep" i don't ear nothing...
[23:33] <raboof> vaurdan: sometimes you can enable it in alsamixer
[23:33] <varlena> fryguy: what does useless mean in this case exactly?
[23:33] <mepholic> what
[23:33] <damian__> how can i get my laptop to detect my wireless card?
[23:33] <vaurdan> Its PCM?
[23:33] <mepholic> Pici, what was that for
[23:34] <mepholic> i'm going to file an abuse report
[23:34] <fryguy> varlena: video card isn't compatible with new version, sound card wasn't compatible
[23:34] <n9xph> damian you need the driver for your network adapter
[23:34] <Pici> mepholic: What was with the random unicode characters?
[23:34] <vaurdan> I just have Master, PCM, IEC952, EXT Mic and Int Mic
[23:34] <iamelite> Does anyone know how to make a Box with a firewire card, emulate itself as a boot medium, for a computer with firewire to boot from?
[23:34] <mepholic> Pici, sorry, my keyboard was in japaneese mode
[23:34] <dr_willis> iamelite,  trying to boot an apple?
[23:34] <vaurdan> I've put PCE at 100% and I can't still ear the beeps
[23:34] <mepholic> I'm still filing an abuse report
[23:34] <varlena> fryguy, ugh.  that's ugly. I assume you rolled back.  I have no idea how to rollback.
[23:34] <iamelite> dr_willis, yes sir!
[23:34] <|Porsche> hey anyone knows how to troubleshoot audio?
[23:35] <fryguy> varlena: no, i just stopped running ubuntu
[23:35] <damian__> how can i get a driver? the download is .exe
[23:35] <LF|Irssi> dude you got kicked, get over it, its not like it was a ban
[23:35] <raboof> |Porsche: iirc there's a pretty huge wikipage on one of the ubuntu wikis
[23:35] <dr_willis> iamelite,  :) ive never done it . sorry.. i only got one iMAC. ive just heard they can do that. trick.
[23:35] <NsOmNiAc> n9xph: Did you find a way to resolve connecting to other samba/windows shared drives ?
[23:35] <ironfroggy_> I finally tracked the problem down to the remote user's home being group writable
[23:35] <ironfroggy_> which i dont understand being a problem
[23:35] <vaurdan> well?
[23:36] <n9xph> damain you need the make and model info for the wireless device then you can find the driver for it
[23:36] <LF|Irssi> NsOmNiAc: have you tried Gadmin? (GUI front end to Samba)
[23:36] <ironfroggy_> (~/.ssh was not group writable, just ~)
[23:36] <vaurdan> I've a problem. How do I activate my PC Speaker on ubuntu? alsamixer doesnt activate it
[23:36] <|Porsche> hmm how do i get there raboof?
[23:36] <raboof> |Porsche: not sure, google i guess :)
[23:36] <zsquareplusc> ironfroggy_: an other user could install its own private key and so gain the identity with a remote log in. that is why sshd refuses to work with that setup
[23:36] <MyLastBreath> attempting to install a Linksys WUSB54 on ubuntu 8.10, how can i determine the verision of the card?
[23:36] <NsOmNiAc> LF|Irssi: nope haven't tried it but will now
[23:37] <fryguy> ironfroggy_: didn't i tell you that the permissions for ssh are very very specific?
[23:37] <n9xph> nsomniac my solution was to install 7.10 instead because it works well
[23:37] <|Porsche> ive tried that already
[23:37] <ironfroggy_> zsquareplusc: but .ssh/ would need to be writable for that, not just ~ right?
[23:37] <icqnumber> is there any way to stop nm-applet from prompting the password (wpa wlan) every time i start my laptop?
[23:37] <|Porsche> my problem is quite peculiar my sound work, but suddenly it stops working
[23:37] <ironfroggy_> fryguy: yes and i checked everything that i knew of mattered. i checked permissions on all my keys, private and public, and .ssh/
[23:37] <icqnumber> it is so boring...
[23:37] <zsquareplusc> ironfroggy_: yes, unless ssh is also reading other files from ~
[23:37] <fryguy> ironfroggy_: and the problem was .ssh/ right? i guess that wasn't checked
[23:37] <kasutaja> icqnumber, can
[23:38] <ironfroggy_> no
[23:38] <iamelite> dr_willis, I simply MUST get this ****er to boot. I feel i am so close and i just learned of this trick.
[23:38] <ironfroggy_> the problem was /home/web/
[23:38] <kasutaja> icqnumber, can't it remember the passwd?
[23:38] <ironfroggy_> not /home/web/.ssh/
[23:38] <iamelite> IS THERE SOMEONE IN THIS CHAT BRILLIANT ENOUGH TO HELP ME!?
[23:38] <unop> !CAPS
[23:38] <|Porsche> icqfroggy: yes there is you have to configure your laptop so that it will connect during the bootup sequence
[23:38] <fsbano> the ubuntu-server alright with xen dom0?
[23:38] <ronny> hi
[23:38] <fsbano> *have*
[23:38] <fsbano> 8.10
[23:38] <iamelite> Caps isnt shouting...
[23:39] <zsquareplusc> it is
[23:39] <Sniff> join #kav
[23:39] <rdw200169_> iamelite: so what, you're trying to boot from firewire, right
[23:39] <NsOmNiAc> yes it is
[23:39] <icqnumber> kasutaja, it can, it is a keyring prompt,
[23:39] <iamelite> Its slightly bigger letters
[23:39] <vaurdan> can someone help?
[23:39] <unop> iamelite, it is on IRC - and you don't have to, so why do it?
[23:39] <|Porsche> icqnumber: check this out http://dilationtime.wordpress.com/2008/06/07/linux-automating-wireless-connection/
[23:39] <iamelite> rdw200169_   eeeeyup
[23:39] <fryguy> !ask | vaurdan
[23:39] <ronny> anyone got an idea how to set up network-manager in order to make it asign a fixed ip + network/dnsforwarding to a usb net device (my openmoko freerunner mobile phone)
[23:39] <rdw200169_> iamelite: mac or pc?
[23:39] <rathel> Some websites won't load for me, I'm thinking it may be my ISP but I thought somebody here might have some ideas to try, I tried restarting my modem and routers and use different computers/OS's and nothing seems to work.
[23:39] <kasutaja> icqnumber, there is a package for automatic keyring login
[23:39] <iamelite> rdw200169_   imac g3
[23:39] <vaurdan> fysaen, I already write it...
[23:39] <vaurdan> I've a problem. How do I activate my PC Speaker on ubuntu? alsamixer doesnt activate it
[23:40] <icqnumber> kasutaja, which one?
[23:40] <rdw200169_> iamelite: well, i'm sure it's similar to setting up a separate linux partition on a mac, using something like rEFIt
[23:40] <icqnumber> kasutaja, libpam-gnome-keyring?
[23:40] <icqnumber> kasutaja, if so i have it installed
[23:40] <paul687> rdw200169_: hi how are you I need your help my friend
[23:40] <rdw200169_> iamelite: since this isn't related to ubuntu, i'm sorry, but i can't help more, you should research rEFIt
[23:41] <iamelite> rdw200169_  I am attempting to install ubuntu on my  imac g3 however i do not have a working disk drive
[23:41] <Eressolar> vaurdan: What is the result of the command " lsmod | grep pcspkr "
[23:41] <kasutaja> icqnumber, see this http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2007/07/12/automatically-unlocking-the-default-gnome-keyring-pam-keyring/
[23:41] <ironfroggy_> zsquareplusc, fryguy: thanks for all the help
[23:41] <zsquareplusc> vaurdan: if you use the speaker applet to open the mixer. then check eth settings of the mixer. there may be options for "mono out" or somthing that enable the controls for that output
[23:41] <rdw200169_> iamelite: right, but you're discussing a highly specific situation, that can only be solved by doing more research into the workings of EFI
[23:42] <vaurdan> vaurdan@neopt:~$  lsmod | grep pcspkr
[23:42] <vaurdan> pcspkr                  4224  0
[23:42] <icqnumber> kasutaja, is it for intrepid?
[23:42] <rdw200169_> iamelite: and finding out if rEFIt, or something like it, can solve your problem
[23:42] <Sniff> join #milw0rm
[23:42] <NEWK> I tried to turn on the visual effects but I got "desktop effects could not be enabled"
[23:42] <kasutaja> icqnumber, don't think it matters
[23:42] <rdw200169_> iamelite: IF rEFIt is capable of booting from firewire, then you must figure out how to get the boot manager thing working, regardless, this is a rEFIt related issue, not ubuntu
[23:43] <Eressolar> vaurdan: using gnome and 8.10?
[23:43] <icqnumber> !info libpam-keyring
[23:43] <vaurdan> 0.4
[23:43] <NEWK> Does that mean my PC is incapable of them or that I jsut need to fiddle with it more or install something?
[23:43] <vaurdan> *8.4
[23:43] <icqnumber> kasutaja, it is, because there is no such a package in intrepid
[23:43] <kasutaja> libpam-gnome-keyring
[23:43] <Fezzler> How do I check if a package is installed - like sun-java5-jre
[23:44] <kasutaja> Fezzler, dpkg -L sun*
[23:44] <rathel> Some websites won't load for me, I'm thinking it may be my ISP but I thought somebody here might have some ideas to try, I tried restarting my modem and routers and use different computers/OS's and nothing seems to work.
[23:44] <kasutaja> Fezzler, small -l
[23:44] <Fezzler> Or libswt3.2-gtl-jni
[23:44] <vaurdan> Eressolar, 8.4 and Gnome
[23:44] <NEWK> Hey, I tried to turn on the visuall effects but I got an error. Does that mean I can't do that on this PC or do I need to keep fiddlign with it or install soemthing?
[23:44] <kasutaja> rathel, can you ping these?
[23:44] <Eressolar> vaurdan: Alright, I don't remember the exact setting in 804, but try System > Preferences > Sounds > and under another tab at the top of the window should have an option for activating pc speaker.
[23:44] <rathel> kasutaja, Yes.
[23:45] <kasutaja> rathel, wget these?
[23:45] <vaurdan> Eressolar, no I dont
[23:46] <rathel> kasutaja, Just tried and yes.
[23:46] <f3ng14> how to use mail command to send mail?
[23:46] <dick-richardson> anyone using podget? mine isn't removing any old files
[23:46] <Fezzler> kasutaja: I don't understand output
[23:46] <kasutaja> rathel, then this is browser issue instead
[23:46] <zsquareplusc> NEWK: maybe no 3d acceleration of your graphics card. you may need to install restricted drivers to enable 3d support. check out the "drivers" item in the preferences
[23:46] <AzizLight> when I hold Alt and use the mouse (left click) I can move the window. How can I disable that please?
[23:46] <icqnumber> kasutaja, i have this package installed by default
[23:47] <kasutaja> Fezzler, the output is in table, which has header, ii means installed
[23:47] <Eressolar> vaurdan: Hrm, sorry then. I know there's an option under the sound options to toggle the pc speaker, but I can't recall its location in 8.04
[23:47] <icqnumber> kasutaja, habe you tried that your self?
[23:47] <icqnumber> have*
[23:47] <Fezzler> kasutaja: so "un" mean uninstalled
[23:47] <kasutaja> icqnumber, did you change your password?
[23:47] <rathel> kasutaja, Wait, I can wget 1 but not the other.
[23:47] <vaurdan> Ok. Can you send me a Screenshot of your computer?
[23:47] <NEWK> I don't see a drivers item in my preferences
[23:47] <SeJo> someone heard about a derivate of ubuntu with an antelope as logo?
[23:47] <SeJo> should be new
[23:48] <icqnumber> kasutaja, what for it is the same as for log in
[23:48] <icqnumber> is there any way to stop nm-applet from keyring prompting the password (wpa wlan) every time i start my laptop? on intrepid
[23:48] <zsquareplusc> NEWK: sorry i don't know its name in english. it should be in the system settings (admin?)
[23:49] <NEWK> thanks, I'll check there
[23:50] <kasutaja> icqnumber, but do you have gnome-keyring installed?
[23:51] <rathel> kasutaja, Got any ideas? seems I can wget 1 out of the 3 websites I know that are not working for me but are working for my friend.
[23:51] <hakr> hai
[23:51] <hakr> Hercules Deluxe Optical Glass Webcam Driver 2.8.0.0 <------ Anyone know how I can get this working on 8.10 ?
[23:52] <kasutaja> rathel, your friend gets these from the same network?
[23:52] <otacon967> Problem.  My wireless card is not responding in 8.04.  I have followed the instructions in the help.  Installed the ndiswrapper GUI front end (forget what its called) and used the driver that my windows vista partition uses for the wireless card.  The "Use Windows Driver" window says that the driver is installed, but the wireless still is not functioning.  I also went into the terminal and...
[23:52] <otacon967> ...checked that ndiswrapper had the driver installed and had done the modprobe.  I'm out of ideas.
[23:53] <JigmeDatse> I'd like to get gimp-print installed on my sister's Hardy computer, and it looks like it won't install, so I'm wondering if there's an alternative that provides similar functionality.
[23:53] <AzizLight> how can I disable the Alt+Drag(left moust) shortcut in ubuntu please?
[23:53] <rathel> kasutaja, No, he's on different ISP, I can't get to those on any computer on my network.
[23:53] <hakr> no one?
[23:53] <zsquareplusc> hakr: with "lsusb" you can get a list of USB devices. find the webcam and search the web for the numbers (like 1234:5678)
[23:53] <Tyrath> would anyone know how I can change the permissions of /dev/fb0? I've looked up tutes but I don't get it. Apparently the permissions are set in the /udev/rules.d directory but I can't find the file that does /dev/fb0
[23:54] <kasutaja> rathel, most probably your ISP. Find some proxy, if you really need these
[23:54] <Anacranom> otacon967, what chipset is your card?
[23:54] <JigmeDatse> I'm more a gentoo girl myself, but I thought Ubuntu would be easier for them to use.
[23:55] <PriceChild> JigmeDatse: What do you mean by "won't install", what're you doing and what's the error?
[23:55] <Tyrath> the issue it that everytime I try to run fbi I get the message cannot open /dev/db0 Permission Denied
[23:55] <kasutaja> rathel, but I am curious why some of there are wget-able
[23:55] <otacon967> Broadcom BCM94311MCG wlan mini-PCI (rev 02)
[23:55] <cali_> my wpn111 wireless adapter is not working on 8.10
[23:55] <rathel> kasutaja, Yeah I know proxying works, I am using tor and it seems to work.
[23:55] <kasutaja> Tyrath, sud?
[23:55] <Tyrath> /dev/db0 = /dev/fb0
[23:55] <NEWK> OK, I checked out my drivers...
[23:55] <kasutaja> Tyrath, sudo?
[23:55]  * UbuntuARMNetbook Waves hello to all 
[23:55] <NEWK> it says "no proprietary drivers are in use on this system"
[23:56] <UbuntuARMNetbook> Has someone been able to get the webcam working with Ubuntu 8.10
[23:56] <JigmeDatse> PriceChild, I'm not totally clear, but it looks like a dependency is missing, or gimp-print is completely missing.
[23:56] <UbuntuARMNetbook> ?
[23:56] <NEWK> What does that mean in regards to my visual effects?
[23:56] <Tyrath> kasutaja: I can use sudo yes. but that becomes annoying when I try to run fbi through other progs. I'd rather someone tell me how to alter the permissions
[23:56] <damian__> i down loaded the driver for my laptop wireless, but its a .exe file. what can i do to get the driver working?
[23:56] <PriceChild> JigmeDatse: could so you're trying sudo apt-get install gimp-print ?/
[23:56] <UbuntuARMNetbook> damian - the .exe files do not work for Ubuntu
[23:56] <Tyrath> kasutaja: I should have the permissions I don't understand why
[23:57] <UbuntuARMNetbook> Damian - You will have to find drivers within repos of Ubuntu or download the source code and compile it yourself
[23:57] <tyso1> does anyone know a link to how i can remove the built in version of fire fox and upgrade to the newest version?
[23:57] <JigmeDatse> PriceChild, to get my sister to do so, yes.
[23:57] <Tyrath> damian__: you can open .exe files using wine
[23:57] <damian__> how do i get my wireless to work?
[23:57] <UbuntuARMNetbook> tyso1 - try purge command
[23:57] <PriceChild> !gimp-print
[23:57] <damian__> if i use wine, will that install the driver?
[23:57] <tyso1> arm net book what is that?
[23:57] <PriceChild> !info gimp-print
[23:57] <kasutaja> Tyrath, as you can sudo you have the permissions, but for safety and security reasons admin actions cannot be performed as user
[23:57] <Tyrath> could anyone help me change my udev permissions? or do I have to reinstall udev or something?
[23:58] <JigmeDatse> PriceChild, I think I could figure it out if I was infront of her computer, but it's a 12 hour drive away from me.
[23:58] <PriceChild> JigmeDatse: There doesn't appear to be a package called gimp-print in Ubuntu.
[23:58] <UbuntuARMNetbook> Damian - I have just joined the room. So what is the acutal issue you had with the wireless
[23:58] <PriceChild> JigmeDatse: have you added a 3rd party repository and are trying to use that?
[23:58] <Tyrath> kasutaja: before I reinstalled ibex I had permissions. for some reason now I don't
[23:58] <nintendork32> im wanting to repartion my disk so /home will be its own partition but it seems i have to unmount  root (/) that doesnt seem safe
[23:58] <tarelerulz>  damian__:  ndiwrapper is how I got my wireless working. as for the .exe  that might be an installing program . So you could use wine to run it .
[23:58] <zsquareplusc> Tyrath: i thing fb0 is there at boot time even before udev is run. so it is not set up with udev rules
[23:58] <kasutaja> Tyrath, you did something special to get these?
[23:59] <JigmeDatse> I don't recall adding a 3rd party repository, but I may have.  That may be the solution.
[23:59] <eumario> Alright, I have a problem with Gnome-Screensaver on my EeePC with Ubuntu Eee 8.04.1, whenever I lock the screen with the Gnome lock Screen, I move my mouse to unlock it, enter my password, and it doesn't accept it.  Any thoughts?
[23:59] <Tyrath> kasutaja: opening a basic program shouldn't require typing sudo unless it's configuration related
[23:59] <UbuntuARMNetbook> tyso - the command is: sudo apt-get remove --purge firefox
[23:59] <Tyrath> zsquareplusc: so how would I set up its permissions then?
[23:59] <UbuntuARMNetbook> Tyso - try that and let me know if that helps
[23:59] <NEWK> This channel is too crowded to get good support
[23:59] <NEWK> is there a less crowded one?
[23:59] <Tyrath> kasutaja: nope. just reinstalled ibex
[23:59] <kasutaja> JigmeDatse, maybe it's replaced by gimp-gutenprint
[23:59] <JigmeDatse> PriceChild, I am not set on gimp-print, but it's what I'm using in Gentoo, and it does wonders for my printing.
[23:59] <lianimator> NEWK: #ubuntu-offtopic?