[09:36] <Arby> trying to debug a crash in ktimetracker
[09:36] <Arby> do we have Qt debugging symbols anywhere other than in libqt4-dbg
[09:37] <Arby> I've still got missing symbols in the backtrace
[10:06] <devfil> Riddell: can you take a look at bug 297161 ?
[10:52] <Havoc][> hello!
[13:31] <usr> Hello. It would be possible to include "sysinfo:/" in Kubuntu? http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=58704
[13:37] <usr> It's a nice KIO Slave, and Mandriva Linux and OpenSUSE have got it since years ago.
[15:01] <seele> in adept, does it use a different icon for security updates vs. software updates?
[15:01] <jjesse> am i doing something wrong that konsole is not saving its window size etc after logging out and logging back in?
[15:03] <seele> jjesse: no it's a bug in konsole
[15:03] <jjesse> seele ok thanks
[15:26] <echidnaman> jjesse: do you have KDE 4.1.3 installed? Apparently it's supposed to be fixed in 4.1.3
[15:27] <jjesse> echidnaman: dont know wuill check
[15:27] <jjesse> have kde 4.1.3 installed
[15:34] <JontheEchidna> works for me (tm)
[15:46] <jjesse> JontheEchidna: hrm will have to take a look at things
[15:47] <JontheEchidna> We had a patch for Konsole we were using to work around a bug in KDE 4.1.2 that caused a problem just like yours
[15:47] <JontheEchidna> we removed the patch for 4.1.3 because a proper fix had been made upstream
[15:48] <jjesse> yay for proper fixes
[17:59] <glade88> hm. I still have the amarok-nightly-kdelibs error after todays update
[21:15] <yuriy> wow this is the first I've seen of almost consistently positive comments about kde4. feels kind of unreal.   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=980980
[21:28] <ryanakca> Oooh, merges :D
[21:29] <Tm_T> yuriy: I like 90% of times see positive comments
[21:29] <Tm_T> but I'm on the wrong side I guess
[21:30] <yuriy> I'm under the impression that ubuntu forums tend to be more negative toward anything KDE
[21:30] <Tm_T> I don't do forums really, so... (;)
[22:47] <sebas> Moin
[22:47] <sebas> Is anybody aware of changes in dbus permissions in the last couple of days in intrepid?
[22:47] <jjesse> moin
[22:48] <sebas> gpg-agent, kwalletd, networkmanager and some solid stuff is broken here at once
[23:23] <Riddell> sebas: no, but check intreipd-changes
[23:23] <Riddell> or see what's new in /var/cache/apt/archive
[23:24] <sebas> archives has nothing suspicious
[23:24] <sebas> What's intrepid-changes?
[23:28] <Riddell> mailing list of new packages
[23:28] <Riddell> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/intrepid-changes/2008-November/thread.html
[23:29] <Riddell> can't see anything directly dbus related.  new qt and kde4libs concievably
[23:31] <Riddell> ooh, build failures for armel arriving in inbox :)
[23:34] <sebas> I don't think it's KDE related
[23:34] <sebas> I also cannot start nm-applet under my normal account
[23:34] <sebas> The common thing I see, that pretty much everything requiring dbus doesn't work
[23:35] <sebas> ** (nm-applet:7890): WARNING **: <WARN>  applet_dbus_manager_start_service(): Could not acquire the NetworkManagerUserSettings service.
[23:35] <sebas>   Message: 'Connection ":1.377" is not allowed to own the service "org.freedesktop.NetworkManagerUserSettings" due to security policies in the configuration file'
[23:35] <sebas> this happens when starting nm-applet under my own account
[23:35] <sebas> it works if I start it as root on my DISPLAY