[00:04] <blendroid> coreymon77: I figured out the problem; I had to go into kwifimanager's settings and click "activate" for Config 1.  just thought I'd let you know your effort wasn't wasted ;)
[00:05] <coreymon77> blendroid: are you serious?
[00:05] <coreymon77> blendroid: that was the problem?
[00:05] <blendroid> yep
[00:05] <coreymon77> LOL!
[00:05] <blendroid> well, the last problem anyway XD
[00:05] <coreymon77> well, everything working now?
[00:05] <DaSkreech> blendroid: so apt-get update works now?
[00:06] <blendroid> I'll check; the connection speed went back to normal, but it seems I still can't bring up sites in the browser...
[00:06] <coreymon77> ...
[00:06] <blendroid> dang, and I thought I was one bothering you..
[00:06] <blendroid> *done
[00:06] <coreymon77> you could always try taking away the static
[00:07] <blendroid> maybe
[00:07] <blendroid> shall try
[00:08] <DarkTan> anyone in here use TightVNC?
[00:08] <blendroid> oh, the gateway field cleared again..
[00:08] <emma> hey guys how do i hide kicker temporarily?
[00:08] <emma> it's covering up text i need to see
[00:09] <coreymon77> blendroid: how does that happen?
[00:10] <blendroid> I have no idea
[00:10] <emma> There's no way to hide the panel in kde?
[00:10] <blendroid> it's like every other time I bring up the network settings, it's gone
[00:11] <DarkTan> coreymon77: what panel?
[00:11] <blendroid> maybe once I put in a static address it'll work again
[00:11] <coreymon77> DarkTan: meh?
[00:11] <DarkTan> what are you trying to hide?
[00:12] <blendroid> YES! it's working!
[00:12] <blendroid> (the apt-get update thing)
[00:12] <blendroid> wheeee
[00:12] <kesnol> emma maybe you can movede hidden windows pressing Alt and dranging it
[00:13] <blendroid> and the browser's working!
[00:13] <coreymon77> DarkTan: what the heck are you talking about?
[00:13] <coreymon77> blendroid: yay!
[00:13]  * DarkTan headdesks
[00:13] <blendroid> well, I guess I can finally stop bothering you XD
[00:13] <DarkTan> wrong person, srry
[00:13] <coreymon77> blendroid: youre not bothering me
[00:13] <coreymon77> blendroid: im here for a reason, its my pleasure to help out
[00:13] <blendroid> haha, well, I hope not
[00:14] <andi_> question, if the oktal number is 111 is that rwx or is it xwr? I have to read from front or from back?
[00:14] <blendroid> see ya later (again) and thanks for the help!
[00:14] <coreymon77> bye
[00:15] <ectospasm> andi_: 111 is --x--x--x, only executable, not readable or writable
[00:15] <ectospasm> so in effect, useless
[00:16] <ectospasm> unless you're talking about umask
[00:16] <ectospasm> and I always have to look that up
[00:17] <andi_> mh, i talked about chmod....and i thought 100 is only executable
[00:17] <ectospasm> Remember that each octal digit is three bits, rwx
[00:18] <ectospasm> so octal digit 1 is --x
[00:19] <ectospasm> if you want rw and no x, use octal digit 6.  So 666 is rw-rw-rw-
[00:19] <andi_> yes, an 6 is 011 or?
[00:19] <ectospasm> six is 110
[00:20] <ectospasm> 011 is 3
[00:20] <andi_> mh    okay, i think i'm dumb^
[00:20] <ectospasm> no, you probably haven't studied octal representations as much as I have
[00:20] <andi_> so i have to read from back...
[00:20] <andi_> oo1 = 1
[00:20] <andi_> 011 = 3
[00:21] <andi_> 111 = 7
[00:21] <andi_> right?
[00:21] <ectospasm> yep
[00:21] <ectospasm> and 010 = 2
[00:21] <ectospasm> and 100 = 4
[00:21] <andi_> and 110 = 6 :)
[00:21] <ectospasm> like I said before, 110 = 6
[00:21] <ectospasm> yep
[00:22] <ectospasm> so each digit in chmod's numerical argument is three bits, rwx.  rwx = 111 = 7
[00:22] <ectospasm> rw- = 110 = 6
[00:22] <ectospasm> et.
[00:22] <ectospasm> c
[00:22] <andi_> I thought the other way around, that 100 = 1, 110 = 3.....
[00:22] <andi_> okay clear
[00:22] <andi_> thx
[00:22] <ectospasm> I forget if that's big endian or little endian
[00:23] <ectospasm> I think it's little, but I may be wrong
[00:23] <lucax> cant see files on desktop!! im using kde4 and compiz...
[00:23] <lucax> any ideas whats goin on??
[00:23] <ectospasm> why would you want files cluttering your desktop? This isn't Winders
[00:23] <boboso> is there a way to install kubuntu on a hd using a usb external hd or flash drive?
[00:24] <ectospasm> boboso: you'd probably have to use the alternate CD for that one
[00:24] <ectospasm> just mark the external HD/USB key as where you install it, and it should work OK
[00:24] <lucax> boboso: u can... install it and then change /boot/grub/system.something to read hd0,0
[00:24] <lucax> u dont need special cds to do this
[00:25] <ectospasm> lucax: you've got to get the filesystem and whatnot onto the external HD
[00:25] <lucax> i want to be able to use the desktop as a desktop! i want to see files on my desktop
[00:25] <ectospasm> and afaik you can't do that with the standard live CD
[00:25] <ectospasm> Or at least you couldn't in previous releases
[00:25] <lucax> ive installed ubuntu in a pendrive usb
[00:25] <Princess> join #ubuntu-fr
[00:26] <boboso> the only reason i ask is cause kubuntu doesnt seem to like my dvd drive
[00:26] <lucax> i had to change some stuff on menu.lst and system.map
[00:26] <ectospasm> the speak french their, and my francais is rusty
[00:26] <ectospasm> s/their/there
[00:26] <lucax> boboso: theres a web that tells how to install from pen, linuxfrompendrive.com or something like that
[00:26] <Machtin> is there a graphical unpack tool which actually works?
[00:27] <ectospasm> Machtin: what's wrong with CLI?
[00:27] <Machtin> cli?
[00:27] <ectospasm> command line interface
[00:27] <lucax> Machtin: u probably need to install unrar or tar or whatever extencion u need first to actually use the kde tool for that
[00:27] <Machtin> nothing.. i love unp.. but it doesn't work right now
[00:27] <ectospasm> good ol' tar, unzip, gunzip, bunzip2
[00:28] <Machtin> it's .rar
[00:28] <ectospasm> the unrar command works very well for me
[00:28] <ectospasm> but it's a CLI tool
[00:29] <ectospasm> using linux without knowing how to use the CLI is like driving a car without knowing how to check the oil
[00:30] <Machtin> i actually do like the console..
[00:30] <Machtin> just wanted to know whether there is a graphical tool which is.. easier.
[00:31] <ectospasm> I dunno, I never use graphical tools for that
[00:31] <Machtin> sometimes i got my hands on the keyboard.. and it's quite some effort to put one to the mouse then.. and sometimes i just got the mouse in my hand and won't want to reach out for the keyboard :p
[00:31] <ectospasm> I don't even use synaptic or adept
[00:31] <andi_> ectospasm: how can I read or write for example an mp3 data? or how can I executable a .txt data?
[00:31] <boboso> lucax: www.pendrivelinux.com is that the site your were talking bout?
[00:32] <ectospasm> andi_: what do you mean?  ID3 tags for MP3?  Or a conversion tool?
[00:32] <lucax> boboso: yeah that one hehe sorry
[00:32] <ectospasm> If you want to execute .txt, you'll need to mark it as executable
[00:32] <andi_> now, I try to understand chmod....
[00:32] <lucax> no one here knows how to allow kde4 to show files on desktop??
[00:32] <andi_> if an txt has the executable status what does that mean
[00:33] <Hendershot> hello everyone
[00:33] <boboso> lucax np...sry if i missed something but all i see on that page is how to install linux onto a flash drive and run it from there.  i want to install it to a regualr hdd but instead of using a cd/dvd drive use a flash drive instead
[00:34] <ectospasm> andi_: you need to change the magic number for it to actually be an executable file
[00:34] <lucax> boboso: if u follow that guida and do what it say, u are goin to be able to install from there... because u are copying the files not installing them, just do it and ull see trust me
[00:34] <ectospasm> hence the shebang "#!" at the beginning of shell scripts
[00:34] <courtjesterg> hey what firewall does everyone use or recommend
[00:34] <courtjesterg> !firewall
[00:35] <ectospasm> courtjesterg: if you want a standalone firewall distribution, I'd recommend IPCop
[00:35] <courtjesterg> firestarter blocked me from booting in my os last time
[00:35] <ectospasm> it's what I uese
[00:35] <Hendershot> can anyone help me with kubuntu
[00:35] <courtjesterg> ipcop
[00:35] <Hendershot> ?
[00:35] <ectospasm> it's a bit out of date
[00:35] <ectospasm> but
[00:35] <courtjesterg> i'll check it out
[00:35] <ectospasm> or you can check out smoothwall
[00:35] <ectospasm> I think IPCop is a fork of smoothwall
[00:37] <Hendershot> any can some one please help me with kubuntu
[00:37] <pgreptom> Hi, I went from a 19" ws to a 22" ws.. changed resolutions with nvidia's tool.. but whenever i try to go into appearance or display in system settings(kde4), kde tries to go into an unsupported resolution, probab ly the old 1440x900 that no longer works, and my screen goes blank.  Any ideas?
[00:37] <Hendershot> i need help with the visual stuff it turns black
[00:37] <ectospasm> Hendershot: what's your specific problem?  "Help with Kubuntu" is awfully broad
[00:37] <Hendershot> may i pm you ectospasm
[00:37] <Hendershot> ?
[00:37] <Hendershot> i will tell you there
[00:37] <ectospasm> no, not now
[00:37] <Hendershot> =]
[00:37] <ectospasm> say it here
[00:37] <Hendershot> ok
[00:38] <Hendershot> ok
[00:38] <Hendershot> i changed the display settings
[00:38] <DaSkreech> lucax: start a Folderview plasmoid
[00:38] <Hendershot> so that it has a snowfall
[00:38] <Hendershot> well display effects
[00:38] <DaSkreech> Hendershot: What do you want?
[00:38] <Hendershot> and i changed a few others
[00:38] <DaSkreech> Oh Ok :)
[00:38] <Hendershot> and i clicked apply
[00:38] <DaSkreech> continue
[00:39] <Hendershot> then the screen turned black
[00:39] <Hendershot> so i restarted it
[00:39] <Hendershot> and it loaded normal
[00:39] <ectospasm> looks like your setup doesn't like those configs
[00:39] <Hendershot> went to the login screen
[00:39] <Hendershot> normal
[00:39] <Hendershot> so i loged in
[00:39] <Hendershot> and once again the black screen
[00:39] <Hendershot> i heard the welcome chime
[00:39] <Hendershot> and everything
[00:40] <Hendershot> i just cant see what im doing
[00:40] <DaSkreech> Hendershot: mv ~/.kde/share/config/kwinrc ~/kwinrc.bkup then login again
[00:40] <Hendershot> where do and how do i do that
[00:40] <Hendershot> im very new at kububtu
[00:40] <ectospasm> alt-F1, login in, voila
[00:40] <Hendershot> and programming
[00:40] <Hendershot> where do i do the alt+FI
[00:40] <Hendershot> F1*
[00:40] <ectospasm> ctrl-alt-f1 from the login screen
[00:41] <Hendershot> ok thank you everyone
[00:41] <Hendershot> does that command restore the desktop
[00:41] <Hendershot> ?
[00:41] <ectospasm> mv erases the configs, restores the defaults
[00:41] <Hendershot> and where do i put ~/.kde/share/config/kwinrc ~/kwinrc.bkup
[00:41] <Hendershot> ahhh
[00:42] <Hendershot> and where do i put ~/.kde/share/config/kwinrc ~/kwinrc.bkup
[00:42] <ectospasm> actually, mv moves them to a backup location
[00:42] <ectospasm> "mv ~/.kde/share/config/kwinrc ~/kwinrc.bkup"
[00:42] <ectospasm> all on the command line
[00:42] <ectospasm> without quotes
[00:42] <Hendershot> i just installed kububtu a few hours agi so im very new at this
[00:42] <Hendershot> ok so a terminal command line
[00:42] <Hendershot> ?
[00:42] <ectospasm> get a beginning UNIX book, why don't ya?
[00:42] <Hendershot> yah i will have to get that
[00:43] <DaSkreech> Hendershot: hey
[00:43] <ectospasm> O'Reilly has an excellent one, Learning UNIX
[00:43] <Hendershot> hey
[00:43] <DaSkreech> Hendershot: Let me walk you through
[00:43] <Hendershot> thank you ectoplasm
[00:43] <ectospasm> I've got one that's 15yrs old and it's still 80% applicable
[00:43] <Hendershot> ok thank you da
[00:43] <Hendershot> daskreech
[00:43] <ectospasm> ectospasm
[00:43] <DaSkreech> On the Login that's black press alt+ctrl+Bkspc to restart the GI server
[00:43] <DaSkreech> GUI
[00:43] <Hendershot> opps sorry
[00:43] <boboso> lucax u still around?
[00:43] <Hendershot> the login isnt black
[00:44] <Hendershot> its after i log in
[00:44] <ectospasm> you could also do failsafe KDE at that point, couldn't he?
[00:44] <Hendershot> i tried to
[00:44] <Hendershot> it did nothing
[00:44] <Hendershot> that would help
[00:44] <DaSkreech> then press alt+ctrl+F1 to get to a terminal. login then type mv ~/.kde/share/config/kwinrc ~/kwinrc.bkup
[00:44] <ectospasm> Oh, shot in the dark shot down
[00:44] <Hendershot> ahhh
[00:44] <DaSkreech> then press alt+ctrl+F7 to go back to the GUI and login again
[00:44] <DaSkreech> lucax: You gone?
[00:44] <Hendershot> ok thank you guys i have to write that down
[00:44] <Hendershot> one sec
[00:45] <DaSkreech> ectospasm: Don't berate the guy for not buying a book a few hours after installing :-P
[00:45] <DarkTan> anyone in here use TightVNC?
[00:45] <Hendershot> tehn i have another prooblem for you guys lol =]
[00:45] <DaSkreech> Hendershot: Bring them on
[00:45] <Hendershot> lol you bet i will
[00:45] <Hendershot> one sec so i can write that command down
[00:45] <DaSkreech> !tab | Hendershot
[00:46] <DaSkreech> Hendershot: Just so you know. makes life eaier
[00:46] <DaSkreech> easier
[00:46] <DaSkreech> When you get KDE back I can show you how to login here without a GUI so you can get help even if you break things pretty badly
[00:46] <DaSkreech> !irssi
[00:46] <Hendershot> ohh tyhanl you
[00:48] <jonatas> ninguem fala portugues ou español
[00:49] <DaSkreech> !es
[00:50] <andi_> can anybody explain me umask? i'm to dum for it...
[00:50] <Hendershot> ok now for the next problem
[00:51] <Hendershot> i cant connect to the internet using this
[00:51] <Hendershot> Network Card: #1 (Sierra Wireless HSDPA Network Adapter - Packet Scheduler Miniport (7Mb/s) 2.07MB In, 0.47MB Out)
[00:52] <Hendershot> any i deas theres
[00:53] <DaSkreech> andi_: do you understand permissions ?
[00:53] <DaSkreech> !wifi
[00:53] <Hendershot> ok thank you sir mam?
[00:54] <Hendershot> how long has everyone been using linux
[00:54] <Hendershot> ?
[00:54] <andi_> DaSkreech: I understand chmod with octals, but not the strange umask
[00:55] <DaSkreech> Hendershot: since about 4 months before I was born
[00:55] <Hendershot> lol darn
[00:55] <DaSkreech> andi_: Ok you understand that when you create a file it gets permissions?
[00:55] <Hendershot> and dude im like so confused at the internet thing
[00:56] <DaSkreech> Don't stress it too much. Simple thing is that Wifi manufacturers pay no heed to Linux
[00:56] <Hendershot> well its a wireless air card that is used for labtops
[00:56] <Hendershot> its a aircard 881u
[00:56] <andi_> DaSkreech: Yes, read - write - executabele
[00:57] <DaSkreech> andi_: For three different set of people
[00:57] <andi_> DaSkreech: there are groups, owners, an the rest of the world
[00:59] <Hendershot> ohh and guys the aircard has a built in installer
[00:59] <Hendershot> it uses 3g watcher
[00:59] <Hendershot> what do i do ?
[01:00] <Hendershot> To determine what wireless card/chipset you have, open up a terminal and type the following.
[01:00] <Hendershot> lspci -v | less
[01:00] <Hendershot> is that what i should do?
[01:00] <Hendershot> and i plug it into a usb port
[01:01] <Hendershot> Then, scroll to find your wireless device and note down its details. For USB devices, type lsusb instead.
[01:02] <Hendershot> how do i type the first letter in this lspci -v | less
[01:02] <Hendershot> lspci -v | less
[01:02] <DaSkreech> Hendershot: press alt+F2 then type in konsole
[01:02] <DaSkreech> andi_: Right
[01:03] <Hendershot> ahh ok thank you
[01:03] <DaSkreech> andi_: and for the octal number of no permissions you would get ??
[01:03] <Hendershot> konsole
[01:03] <Hendershot> um
[01:03] <DaSkreech> You get a terminal ?
[01:03] <andi_> 000?
[01:03] <Hendershot> in not in linux
[01:04] <Hendershot> in microsoft
[01:04] <DaSkreech> Hendershot: oh well when you get to linux
[01:05] <Hendershot> lol
[01:05] <Hendershot> if i do i cant connect
[01:05] <Hendershot> cause i still cant figure out how
[01:06] <DaSkreech> Ah it's all wireless :)
[01:06] <DaSkreech> ok
[01:06] <Hendershot> l0ol
[01:06] <Hendershot> its a usb
[01:06] <courtjesterg> isn't smoothwall a in windows application i checked out the site?
[01:06] <Hendershot> connection
[01:06] <oscar> I FREED THE FISH AND NOW IT WONT GO AWAY
[01:07] <Hendershot> can some one help me with that connection problem
[01:07] <Hendershot> im not sure what to type
[01:07] <Hendershot> and stuff
[01:08] <ectospasm> andi_: umask is easy.  It sets the file permissions using the operation & (bitwise AND):  umask & 0777 = file permissions by default
[01:08] <courtjesterg> anybody tryed KMyFirewall?
[01:08] <ectospasm> not I
[01:08] <Hendershot> and how do i type this
[01:08] <DaSkreech> courtjesterg:
[01:08] <Hendershot> |
[01:08] <DaSkreech> It's a Linux distro
[01:09] <DaSkreech> andi_: ok how about full permissions ?
[01:09] <DaSkreech> Hendershot: it's above \
[01:09] <andi_> DaSkreech: 777
[01:09] <Hendershot> above??
[01:10] <DaSkreech> andi_: Ok Umask takes away from 777 (really 666) to get the default permissions of a file
[01:10] <Hendershot> \
[01:10] <ectospasm> a umask of 777 means every file you create will have permissions of 777 by default, which is probably not what you want.
[01:10] <DaSkreech> Hendershot: Shift + \
[01:10] <Hendershot> |
[01:10] <Hendershot> ahh
[01:10] <Hendershot> thank you
[01:10] <oscar> how do i get rid of the fish
[01:10] <Hendershot> shoot it
[01:11] <DaSkreech> oscar: Which ?
[01:11] <DaSkreech> oscar: Gnome ?
[01:11] <andi_> mh okay, in my linux book stands somethiong like that, umask 022 ; chmode +w test.txt
[01:11] <andi_> what does taht mean?
[01:11] <oscar> yeah
[01:11] <oscar> gnome haha
[01:12] <DarkTan> anyone in here use TightVNC?
[01:12] <Hendershot> opps
[01:12] <DaSkreech> andi_: you set the umask to 022 which means that it subtracts that from 666 to get the file permissions of a new file
[01:12] <ectospasm> hmmm, it appears umask isn't in kubuntu's man pages by default
[01:12] <DaSkreech> oscar: :-) Finding easter eggs already
[01:12] <DaSkreech> DarkTan: Want to ask the real question ?
[01:12] <oscar> :)
[01:12] <ectospasm> DaSkreech: that's right... I've been looking in the wrong place
[01:13] <DaSkreech> ectospasm: It's not an application
[01:13] <ectospasm> umask is a command
[01:13] <courtjesterg> hey are we using firefox or swiftfox whixh is optmized and built for linux?
[01:13] <ectospasm> to set the umask
[01:13] <DarkTan> ok how do i change the password on TightVNC?
[01:13] <Hendershot> ok guys when i get the connection and get on konversation how do i get bac into this room
[01:13] <Hendershot> and this server
[01:13] <DarkTan> (i wanted to make sure someone whoud know what i was talking about first.)
[01:13] <ectospasm> Hendershot: connect to freenode, /join #kubuntu
[01:14] <Hendershot> what port?
[01:14] <Hendershot> and everything
[01:14] <ectospasm> freenode should be a standard IRC network, but I don't use konversation so I don't know
[01:14] <ectospasm> 6667
[01:14] <Hendershot> ok thank you
[01:14] <DaSkreech> courtjesterg: firefox
[01:14] <DarkTan> konversation to have this channel saved automaticly
[01:15] <Hendershot> well guys ill see you on linux i hope
[01:15] <Hendershot> itl take me close to 10 minutes
[01:15] <Hendershot> to get it working
[01:15] <DaSkreech> Hendershot: Konversation will connect here by default if you ahve net
[01:15] <Hendershot> ahve net?
[01:15] <DaSkreech> andi_: Does that make sense to you?
[01:15] <Hendershot> huh
[01:15] <DaSkreech> Hendershot: Yeah internet
[01:15] <DaSkreech> Otherwise it's kinda hard to get here :)
[01:15] <Hendershot> can you show me a screen shot of where that is?
[01:15] <Hendershot> please
[01:16] <courtjesterg> ok thanks yeah going to stop looking for another browser and just use firefox. When i download from adept i can update it normalling from with in the browser correct?
[01:16] <Hendershot> and one of like how to do it
[01:16] <DaSkreech> If you have wired internet then you can get here easy
[01:16] <Hendershot> lol
[01:16] <DaSkreech> courtjesterg: no
[01:16] <Hendershot> lol
[01:16] <Hendershot> ok
[01:16] <DaSkreech> Hendershot: I'll be gone though
[01:16] <DaSkreech> I'm walkingout now
[01:16] <Hendershot> ohh
[01:16] <Hendershot> cruf
[01:16] <Hendershot> well dude take are
[01:16] <courtjesterg> it doesn't update like in windows
[01:16] <Hendershot> care
[01:16] <Hendershot> and thanks for all of your help
[01:17] <andi_> DaSkreech: actually not :)
[01:17] <DaSkreech> courtjesterg: no that was disabled. You will ge the updates in like two days
[01:17] <DaSkreech> andi_: Do you get the importance of 666 ?
[01:17] <killer_> hmm. still trying to figure out how to get my bottom panel to fit the full screen width, any hints?
[01:17] <DaSkreech> Hendershot: Come by here anytime though
[01:17] <ectospasm> DaSkreech: umask is a builtin command in bash
[01:17] <Hendershot> yes i will its a great room
[01:17] <Hendershot> tahnks
[01:17] <DaSkreech> ectospasm: I know that the description for it is in help umask
[01:17] <DaSkreech> Hi Dr_willis
[01:18] <Dr_willis> moo!
[01:18] <courtjesterg> I can do this manully   maybe i will try
[01:18] <andi_> 666 is read-write- ~ read-write- ~ read-write- ~
[01:18] <Hendershot> ok guys take care
[01:18] <Hendershot> ?
[01:18] <DaSkreech> courtjesterg: Slight delay you get the same update though
[01:18] <Hendershot> bye for now
[01:18] <DaSkreech> andi_: Right. Your umask is subtracted from that
[01:18] <DaSkreech> andi_: So a umask of 022 would give you want permissions ?
[01:19] <courtjesterg> yeah well 3.0.4 has been out for sometime and it still hasn't gotten the update in adept
[01:19] <dig> courtjesterg: ya
[01:19] <andi_> I don't know, what do you mean with subtract? what is from who how subtracted?
[01:19] <DaSkreech> courtjesterg: Jackalope is being prepared. Give them a chance to do that shift first :)
[01:20] <DaSkreech> andi_: Your umask is subtracted from 666 to get the default file permissions
[01:20] <DaSkreech> So you said your book said to set umask to 022 ?
[01:20] <courtjesterg> fine what do they hadd something to it is that why we have to wait for adept instead of manually doing it our selfs?
[01:20] <DaSkreech> courtjesterg: They take something out
[01:20] <andi_> 666 - 022?
[01:21] <DaSkreech> andi_: Right
[01:21] <courtjesterg> why do they take something out when mozilla builds it for linux hmm what do they take out i wonder
[01:21] <DaSkreech> courtjesterg: Because they have paid support customers
[01:22] <courtjesterg> spyware?
[01:22] <dig> sorry, what is 022?
[01:22] <courtjesterg> adware?
[01:22] <DaSkreech> canonical needs to ensure that Mozilla doesn't updatesomething that would break other packages they put out
[01:22] <courtjesterg> i see
[01:22] <DaSkreech> courtjesterg: If Mozilla updates the rendering engine it can break Gnome which is bad for Ubuntu when they can't control that
[01:22] <DaSkreech> dig: umask
[01:22] <DaSkreech> andi_: What do you get when you do that ?
[01:23] <andi_> its 644
[01:23] <courtjesterg> i use kubuntu and kubuntu says its not a fork even though it kinda is just hasn't migrated all the way from ubuntu
[01:23] <DaSkreech> courtjesterg: So when Mozilla updates Ubuntu takes it and runs through some tests to make sure it doesn't break anything package it and send it out
[01:23] <DaSkreech> andi_: Right so if you create a brand new file what permissions do you expect it to have ?
[01:23] <andi_> rw-r--r--?
[01:24] <DaSkreech> courtjesterg: That would make it not a fork
[01:24] <DaSkreech> andi_: Right. so make a new file and see if it has those permissions
[01:24] <courtjesterg> yeah just designed different in looks and using the kde but using the gnome as well odd even weird
[01:25] <DaSkreech> courtjesterg: it doesn't use Gnome
[01:25] <andi_> yes, it works, but i thnk its so much complicate, if i want to make a file's permissions, i have to think about 5min till i know what to do.....:)
[01:26] <DaSkreech> andi_: Not really :-)
[01:26] <DaSkreech> andi_: make a dir and play with it for about 30 minutes after that it gets real reasy
[01:26] <DaSkreech> andi_: well make a sub dir and play with the permissions on that as well
[01:27] <|DarkSmoke|> guys
[01:27] <courtjesterg> so in new version do they plain on taking konqueror out and just sticking firefox embed in? Cause Konquoeror is a good browser just doesn't work with everthing hence i can us it to view myspace but the flash i think doesn't work or isn't supported or is the java while seamonkey does except the flash backgrounds are white so going to test my plugins in firefox and see what i can get
[01:27] <|DarkSmoke|> i got my Documents folder empty
[01:27] <|DarkSmoke|> it wasn't empty...
[01:27] <|DarkSmoke|> wtf happened?
[01:27] <|DarkSmoke|> ;
[01:27] <|DarkSmoke|> :/
[01:27] <andi_> DaSkreech:  okay I'll practice , thanks for your help
[01:28] <courtjesterg> if i am correct the only java that works with konqueror is blackdown.org so i been told and nobody can find this download anywhere cause its blocked and the site is gone
[01:29] <courtjesterg> sun isn't fully supported shame they should app this browser up more and do a plugin data base for this browser
[01:29] <courtjesterg> migrate the firfox source included with the kounqueror browser
[01:29] <DaSkreech> |DarkSmoke|: You deleted the things inside
[01:30] <|DarkSmoke|> nope i didn't
[01:30] <DaSkreech> courtjesterg: no Kubuntu will never ship with firefox
[01:30] <|DarkSmoke|> im not a noob or something
[01:30] <|DarkSmoke|> :/
[01:30] <|DarkSmoke|> could it be a corrupted filesystem or something?
[01:30] <DaSkreech> |DarkSmoke|: For one directory?
[01:30] <DaSkreech> unlikely
[01:30] <|DarkSmoke|> could it be the upgrade of KDE? :/
[01:31] <DaSkreech> possible but also unlikely
[01:31] <courtjesterg> yeah but they can use features that firefox has since it is open source and actually add the features firefox has to konqueror this i would like to see
[01:31] <RobotGuy> Where does Ubuntu/kubuntu store the settings for network stuff?
[01:31] <DaSkreech> courtjesterg: :-)
[01:31] <DaSkreech> I'm out guys I gotta run
[01:31] <RobotGuy> Is it in /etc/network/interfaces?
[01:32] <courtjesterg> after i get my system finish to why i like it and understand the os bettre think i download both source codes sounds like a project!
[01:33] <DaSkreech> courtjesterg: I like you
[01:33] <courtjesterg> xoxo
[01:33] <courtjesterg> lol ;)
[01:33] <DaSkreech> RobotGuy: should be or in the HAL interfaces
[01:35] <DaSkreech> !commands > oscar
[01:37] <Ash-Fox> How do I reset the menus and file associations to default in Kubuntu intrepid? I've done numerous upgrades, moved from various distributions to another while keeping my home directory. Unfortuantely now it's become quite messy with lots of dead applications in menus, associatinos that don't work etc. I don't want to delete my KDE profile because there is a lot of things in KDE I wish to keep, from kopete, kmail settings and mail t
[01:37] <Princess> join #ubuntu-fr
[01:41] <dig> Ash-Fox: right click the "Star button", menu editor->settings->restore (something like this)
[01:41] <infidel> what does one have to go to get `apt-get' to install xchat on this thing ?
[01:43] <infidel> freaking Kubuntu doesnt freaking have Firefox and Xchat! ..how do I survive!?!?! ..hooww!
[01:47] <infidel_> would someone help me use apt-get to work on Kubuntu?
[01:47] <Ash-Fox> dig, alright, and for file associations?
[01:49] <mister-tea> infidel_:  just install it from synaptic
[01:49] <mister-tea> or package manager in kubuntu
[01:50] <infidel_> mister-tea, working on synaptic already.. thanks though!
[01:50] <dig> Ash-Fox: I need to check it out.
[01:50] <Ash-Fox> dig, alright. well thanks for the information you've given so far.
[01:51] <mister-tea> or sudo apt-get install xchat
[01:51]  * mister-tea knows it is listed in synaptic
[01:51] <infidel_> mister-tea, apparently sudo apt-get install xchat says no package
[01:51] <infidel_> same for firefox
[01:52] <infidel_> lets see if synaptic has it listed
[01:52] <mister-tea> go to synaptic and search irc you will see it
[01:52]  * mister-tea loaded it last week
[01:53] <infidel_> okie dokie
[01:53] <tacosarecool> Hello
[01:54] <trappist> is there any excuse for knetworkmanager to be using 20% cpu, or is this a bug?
[01:54] <trappist> it's been pretty consistent
[01:56] <mister-tea> it's needy? :-)
[01:56] <tacosarecool> How come my kubuntu lags even my ubuntu
[01:57] <oscar> how do i make gnome defualt
[01:57] <tacosarecool> go into gnome
[01:57] <tacosarecool> logout
[01:57] <tacosarecool> Go to default
[01:58] <tacosarecool> or reinstall kubuntu desktop
[01:58] <mister-tea> oscar: on the splash screen choose gnome and make it for every start
[01:58] <oscar> alright hold
[01:58] <mister-tea> go to menu
[01:58] <tacosarecool> How come my gnome and kde lags?
[01:58] <CapaH> Can anyone here tell me why sendmail just hangs? It doesn't send any email
[01:58] <tacosarecool> Oh
[01:59] <tacosarecool> Because in 8.10 there are rendering issues
[01:59] <tacosarecool> I was like what the heck when I saw stickam on 8.10
[01:59] <Hendershot> hey guys im back
[02:00] <Hendershot> i need help still with the internet connection
[02:00] <tacosarecool> Ok can anyone help me
[02:00] <Hendershot> this is a nother xp
[02:00] <Dr_willis> hmm?>
[02:00] <CapaH> tacosarecool, with what?
[02:00] <Hendershot> ectoplasm
[02:00] <mister-tea> xp?
[02:00] <Hendershot> windows
[02:00] <Hendershot> lol
[02:00] <tacosarecool> It's lagging
[02:01] <tacosarecool> Even gnome
[02:01] <mister-tea> !windows
[02:01] <tacosarecool> it was fine on 8.04
[02:01] <Hendershot> the wireless card i have i can not get it to connect to kubuntu
[02:01] <Hendershot> i cant seem to get it to work
[02:01] <Hendershot> or even find that its connected to the computer
[02:02] <mister-tea> have you checked the wiki?
[02:02] <Hendershot> what is the wiki
[02:02] <mister-tea> !wireless
[02:02] <tacosarecool> And I have to open .bins in the command prompt
[02:02] <Hendershot> its a sierra wireless aircard 881u
[02:02] <Hendershot> usb
[02:03] <Hendershot> i have the kubuntu open in another machine
[02:03] <mister-tea> the wiki will list the compatible hardware :-)
[02:03] <Hendershot> well what if it isnt
[02:03] <Hendershot> can i get a driver
[02:03] <mister-tea> sol
[02:03] <Hendershot> or something
[02:03] <draik> For Kopete users, how do I get WebCam to work? I did it in the past (read: 8.04) and can't seem to get it working this time around.
[02:03] <Dishevelled_User> hello?
[02:03] <infidel_> mister-tea, apparently apt-get starting behaving normally after installing synaptic O_o and I am back to life with FF and XC running here :)
[02:04] <mister-tea> ok yea
[02:04] <tacosarecool> I don't know why stickam isn't working cartoon network with my webcam works
[02:04] <mister-tea>  :-P
[02:04] <infidel_> this thing can get notorious too ;-)
[02:04] <Hendershot> ok guys brb
[02:05] <ptl> !windows | ubottu
[02:05] <ptl> lol
[02:05] <Dishevelled_User> hey does anybody know how to fix the black/pink bug on start up?
[02:08] <Dr_willis> Old Skool Comedy!
[02:08] <CapaH> Running sendmail is *SLOW* - does anyone know why that may be?
[02:09] <tacosarecool> !flash
[02:09] <BobHope> does anybody else get a black/pink screen on startup of 10.8?
[02:09] <mister-tea> 10.8?
[02:09] <Dr_willis> dyxlic version #';s
[02:09] <Dr_willis> :)
[02:09] <mister-tea> o
[02:10] <courtjesterg> !geforce
[02:10] <courtjesterg> !nforce
[02:10] <mister-tea> dyslexics untie!
[02:11] <BobHope> anybody get the same problem
[02:11] <courtjesterg> !pimps and hoes
[02:11] <courtjesterg> i can't spell
[02:11] <BobHope> !cortjesterg being straight
[02:11] <BobHope> lol
[02:12] <mister-tea> !botabuse
[02:12] <courtjesterg> i really never understood weather or not i am dislistic i mean nobody ever told me why i went to speech in schoola nd human resources for like ever with the metal handicapp and other kids but i am not diagonised with a handicap odd i find my past
[02:13] <mister-tea>  :-D
[02:14] <mister-tea> dyslexics untie!
[02:14] <BobHope> does anybody actually solve kub problems in here?
[02:14] <mister-tea> !ask
[02:15] <courtjesterg> i actually still haven't got my cd/rewrite to read disks nor fix my font bug with driver 96 grahpics say when you click n file and such nope nothing i can't even see the names in right window
[02:16] <killer_> ok.. what is the best replacement panel for plasma?
[02:16] <tacosarecool> DLP
[02:16] <tacosarecool> Plasma burns
[02:16] <courtjesterg> the drive is there read in bios and k3b just doesn't read was fine in windows
[02:16] <tacosarecool> I'd recommend led
[02:16] <tacosarecool> I like samsung
[02:17] <mister-tea> !best
[02:17] <killer_> I cannot find kicker in synaptic lists
[02:17] <courtjesterg> well the fonts blink in and out when it changes
[02:17] <courtjesterg> say if i click enter in this with words the names on the right blick on /off
[02:18] <courtjesterg> and it just blink when someone joins the chat hmm anybody know how to fix this bug?
[02:18] <killer_> is there no kicker panel for kde now?
[02:19] <courtjesterg> my fonts when i  click on file and such dispaly on browsers its just in application like konversationa and such like that wold music player
[02:20] <tacosarecool> !lag
[02:20] <tacosarecool> !laggy
[02:20] <courtjesterg> anybody else running a geforce 3 and what driver are you using?
[02:20] <tacosarecool> !ati x300
[02:20] <tacosarecool> !.bin
[02:20] <mister-tea> !ati
[02:21] <Frederick> folks how do I add source to the path of a project in kdevelop?
[02:21] <killer_> how do I get the panel hide arrow on the ends?
[02:21] <hendersho> ok guys i have a asmall problem with connecting to kubuntu
[02:21] <hendersho> using a wirless modem
[02:22] <hendersho> ive been to the sight
[02:22] <mister-tea> !enter
[02:22] <hendersho> http://www.sierrawireless.com/faq/ShowFAQ.aspx?ID=1077
[02:22] <hendersho> sorry man its how i type.
[02:22] <killer_> hendersho I have a SIerra 885.. what do you a have?
[02:22] <hendersho> 881U
[02:23] <killer_> hendersho: what kernel do you have
[02:23] <hendersho> i cant get it to get reconized by the comp the driver is instaled and everything the 3g watcher deos not come up
[02:23] <hendersho> kbn 4.1
[02:23] <hendersho> kbu?
[02:23] <killer_> hendersho: do "uname -a" on command line
[02:23] <oscar> how do i open a .run file?
[02:24] <hendersho> ok ill do that real quick
[02:24] <hendersho> do i need to have the wireless car in when i do that
[02:24] <mister-tea> hendersho: check this link out it has instructions for edu should be the sameish
[02:24] <mister-tea> https://wiki.edubuntu.org/NetworkManager/Hardware/3G
[02:24] <killer_> hendersho: do you have ATT service?
[02:24] <hendersho> ok thank you
[02:24] <hendersho> wat is ATT
[02:24] <hendersho> i have centennial
[02:25] <hendersho> can i type uname -a that in a termial ?
[02:25] <killer_> hendersho: hmm.. I got mine working on ATT in about 20 mins
[02:26] <hendersho> what is ATT
[02:26] <courtjesterg> !paste
[02:26] <draik> !webcam
[02:26] <killer_> hendersho: AT&T cellular
[02:26] <mister-tea> killer_: his instructions are going to take longer according to what I read
[02:26] <killer_> hendersho: are you talking about a cellular modem.. right?
[02:26] <hendersho> um its a usb air card
[02:26] <killer_> mister-tea: I used webmin
[02:27] <killer_> mister-tea: hendersho: PPP Dialup Client under Networking section
[02:27] <courtjesterg> http://paste.ubuntu.com/72661/
[02:27] <mister-tea> the page I listed had some notes about how but it won't be simple
[02:27] <tacosarecool> oscar
[02:27] <tacosarecool> Use the command prompt
[02:27] <hendersho> killer what do you mean?
[02:27] <killer_> hendersho: mine to .. USB aircard... Mercury 885 by Sierra Wireless
[02:28] <courtjesterg> i have used opengl with this graphics card using 96 driver
[02:28] <hendersho> hummm do you have  a screen shot of how thats connected
[02:28] <hendersho> and set up
[02:28] <mister-tea> hendersho: try lsudb
[02:28] <mister-tea> lsusb
[02:28] <courtjesterg> still i get the feeling not working properly
[02:28] <killer_> hendersho: it's a USB.. I just plug into my laptop
[02:28] <hendersho> ok ill try it one sec
[02:29] <mister-tea> your paste is for pci devices
[02:29] <killer_> hendersho:  what does /var/log/messages tell you when you plug it in
[02:29] <courtjesterg> especially with this kinda bug and start up sometimes when click on start it tv screen black and such that blinks and goes away quick  sometimes when expanding windows as well
[02:29] <hendersho> the drivers instaled
[02:29] <Dr_willis> !ppa
[02:30] <hendersho> let me see wait killer how do i get to /var/log/messages
[02:30] <killer_> hendersho: pastebin me the output from "lsmod |grep sierra"
[02:31] <killer_> hendersho: open a terminal screen like, konsole
[02:31] <mister-tea> you need a space in there
[02:31] <hendersho> i didnot understand what you said killer sorry
[02:31] <killer_> hendersho: K -> Applications -> System -> Terminal
[02:31] <hendersho> how do i pastebin you the outut when i dont have a conection
[02:31] <mister-tea> between the pipe and the grep
[02:31] <hendersho> ok im there
[02:32] <killer_> hendersho: no probs.. I'll walk you thru it
[02:32] <hendersho> ok ill be walking back and forth to the comps so one second ok
[02:32] <killer_> hendersho: in that screen type "uname -a"
[02:32] <killer_> paste her
[02:32] <killer_> here
[02:32] <hendersho> how do i do that i have not a flash drive
[02:32] <hendersho> or anything
[02:33] <hendersho> to paste it in
[02:33] <killer_> hendersho: are you on two different machines? one you are typing to me on .. and one trying to install aircard to?
[02:34] <mister-tea> yes
[02:34] <hendersho> yes
[02:34] <killer_> hendersho: aahh..
[02:34] <hendersho> one aircard though
[02:34] <killer_> ok
[02:34] <hendersho> the uname -a i will tell you what it said in a moment ill write it down
[02:35] <killer_> hendersho: I just want the main number .. example 2.6.25 -(something)
[02:35] <tacosarecool> My kubuntu lags sometimes
[02:35] <tacosarecool> so does gnome
[02:35] <courtjesterg> !paste
[02:35] <killer_> tacosarecool: how much RAM do you havev?
[02:36] <tacosarecool> 2 gb
[02:37] <hendersho> 2.6.27-7-generic #1 SMP
[02:37] <courtjesterg> can someone have a look at my x config file and make sure it all looks ok! http://paste.ubuntu.com/72667/
[02:37] <hendersho> .............i686 GMU/Linux
[02:37] <tacosarecool> But my graphics card is ati x300
[02:38] <tacosarecool> Wait brb
[02:38] <hendersho> killer
[02:38] <courtjesterg> i read this f you have the right version of linux-restricted-modules installed and 3D acceleration still isn't working, open your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file for editing with gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf or kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf if using Kubuntu. Be sure that the Driver entry under Section "Device" is set to "nvidia" (Gutsy and older).
[02:39] <courtjesterg> noticed mine is set to monitor
[02:39] <hendersho> nope
[02:39] <courtjesterg> i found this info here in the trouble shooting section
[02:39] <courtjesterg> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[02:40] <Sokal-EC> i need a little help getting my airlink rt61 wireless card to work anyone available?
[02:41] <lovre> hi all
[02:41] <Sokal-EC> howdy
[02:41] <lovre> i have a problem with firefox flash straming video, the sound is not synchronised with the video...
[02:41] <killer_> hendersho: ok.. I'm looking up some info
[02:41] <hendersho> hey killer i gave you the numbers
[02:42] <hendersho> ok thank you
[02:42] <mister-tea> Sokal-EC: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/48087
[02:42] <killer_> hendersho: 881 or 881U ?
[02:43] <Sokal-EC> yes mister?
[02:44] <courtjesterg> why doesn't harware drivers display the other drivers say 173 and such and only the 96 recommened?
[02:44] <courtjesterg> odd very odd
[02:44] <mister-tea> Sokal-EC: are you on 8.10?
[02:44] <Sokal-EC> yupp
[02:45] <hendersho> 881U
[02:46] <killer_> hendersho: ok.. the link you put here is the right one
[02:46] <hendersho> ok
[02:47] <killer_> no patch needed for your kernel version
[02:47] <hendersho> but what do i do to install it to get it connected
[02:47] <killer_> hendersho: how far did you get in the instructions?
[02:47] <hendersho> cause i do not know the password it was never told to us
[02:47] <hendersho> what instrctions
[02:48] <killer_> hendersho: no pass needed.. or you will have to call tech support for centennial and ask them
[02:48] <hendersho> ok
[02:48] <hendersho> well what do i do now?
[02:48] <killer_> hendersho: on my setup .. kppp would not let me leave user and pass blank.. I put "1" (a one) in user and in pass, to make it happy.. apparently the ISP ignores it
[02:48] <hendersho> i am getting the networkmananger open
[02:49] <hendersho> um so should i do the same
[02:49] <killer_> hendersho: instructions on  http://www.sierrawireless.com/faq/ShowFAQ.aspx?ID=1077 ... did you do "modinfo sierra"
[02:49] <hendersho> m
[02:49] <hendersho> um let me do it now im not sure if i did
[02:51] <killer_> hendersho: look at the output from modinfo and find where it shows the version number
[02:52] <hendersho> ive done it before but i think it told me that there was a error.
[02:52] <hendersho> i had to restat the comp it messed up
[02:53] <killer_> no.. modinfo would not mess up anything
[02:53] <killer_> hendersho: do it again
[02:54] <hendersho> 1.3.2
[02:55] <hendersho> is that what you needed
[02:55] <tacosarecool> Ok I know the problem
[02:55] <tacosarecool> The permissions
[02:55] <tacosarecool> KDE is on top of gnome
[02:55] <tacosarecool> If I uninstall gnome
[02:55] <tacosarecool> then
[02:55] <courtjesterg> when working in x server settings  and you press save current configuration where do i save this file to when prompted? .nvidia-settings-rcv it lets you search where to save
[02:56] <courtjesterg> !x server
[02:56] <pangloss> !sound
[02:57] <Dr_willis> ' working in x server settings '   - where exactly are you working/what app are you running?
[02:57] <courtjesterg> no seriously where do i save my x server settings i haven't done this yet
[02:57] <courtjesterg> the app is nvidia x server settings in system
[02:57] <Dr_willis> X settings are stored in xorg.conf for the main settings
[02:58] <Dr_willis> theres the 'nvidia-settings' tool and the 'nvidia-xconfig' tool
[02:58] <Dr_willis> That icon is proberly launching the nvidia-settings tool.
[02:58] <killer_> hendersho: yep you have the 1.3.1 or newer
[02:58] <courtjesterg> when working in this app it asks at the bottom to save current configuration and the file it gives name it gives to save
[02:59] <courtjesterg> .nvidia-settings-rc
[02:59] <killer_> hendersho: did you download the ppp scripts?
[02:59] <ratchet__> what is the code i need to use to install Google earth?
[02:59] <hendersho> no
[02:59] <Dr_willis> google earth is in the medibuntu repos I think
[02:59] <killer_> http://www.sierrawireless.com/resources/support/Software/Linux/ppp-scripts.tar.gz
[03:00] <courtjesterg> let me get my x-config
[03:00] <hendersho> cause how do i get them on the aircard
[03:00] <hendersho> or even on my linux
[03:00] <killer_> hendersho: unzip that and follow the instructions
[03:00] <juanantonio> Hello
[03:00] <hendersho> does it go in the aircard?
[03:00] <killer_> hendersho: I think that kppp may require this to be done
[03:01] <killer_> hendersho: no it goes into your kubunutu
[03:01] <juanantonio> Anyone knows a program for Kubuntu like Pocket DivX Encoder for Windows? I'm trying with Avidemux, is it the solution?
[03:01] <hendersho> ok but how do i transfer the files
[03:01] <killer_> hendersho: burn CD?
[03:01] <hendersho> killler: my kubuntu is not up
[03:01] <hendersho> its a 1 kb file lol
[03:01] <courtjesterg> here is my x.config file in nano
[03:01] <courtjesterg> http://paste.ubuntu.com/72677/
[03:01] <Dr_willis> juanantonio,  perhaps tell us what you are trying to do.. not  'som,thing like some app that we mayu have never used' :)
[03:02] <killer_> hendersho: download on your current machine and unzip and read the text files
[03:02] <hendersho> ok will do
[03:03] <courtjesterg> using 96 driver and a gefore3 http://paste.ubuntu.com/72677/
[03:03] <juanantonio> Ok. I'm trying to convert DivX to 320x240 so that it fits into my PDA screen
[03:04] <ThomasHC> hullo
[03:04] <juanantonio> I need to pass 275-300 kbts in video, and 64 kbts stereo MP3 audio
[03:04] <hendersho> where can i get the zip file to extract it
[03:04] <tacosarecool> Ok I've got a permissions problem under kde4
[03:04] <hendersho> what is it called
[03:04] <juanantonio> No more quality needed, the screen is 2'8", any idea?
[03:05] <tacosarecool> How do I completely remove gnome
[03:05] <killer_> hendersho: I have to go soon.. it took me a few attempts to get mine working.. but mostly I had to actually read thru the docs, text, webpage carefully a couple of times, but I did get it working
[03:05] <tacosarecool> I'll get my permissions back right?
[03:05] <tacosarecool> I have my permissions for some reason under gnome
[03:05] <Dr_willis> mencoder/ffmpeg can  most liklely do it  juanantonio  - but im not sure of the right options..  the mencoder faq and ffmpeg faq both had lots of examples of  messing eith divx i recall
[03:05] <killer_> hendersho: what operating system are you on right now?
[03:05] <Dr_willis> Avidemux can proberly do it also. :)
[03:06] <tacosarecool> If I uninstall gnome will I get my permission back
[03:06] <tacosarecool> Will I?
[03:06] <tacosarecool> !permissions
[03:06] <juanantonio> Mencoder? Ok. Is it in the repos?
[03:07] <hendersho> xp
[03:07] <tacosarecool> Anyone?
[03:07] <hendersho> killer XP
[03:07] <Frederick> folks can anyone here give me some help with kdevelop? I need to add sources to a project
[03:07] <tacosarecool> I need help
[03:07] <juanantonio> 'Cause with Avidemux I'm already searching for the right options
[03:08] <tacosarecool> !help
[03:08] <Dr_willis> mencoder and ffmpeg from medibuntu would have most of the features.. but they are command line tools
[03:09] <Dr_willis>  check the avidemux forums perhaps for your specific player and what optuons to use.
[03:09] <tacosarecool> Anyone?
[03:09] <killer_> hendersho: goto ultimatezip.com and install it
[03:09] <Dr_willis> juanantonio,  at one time i had a script for avidemux that would convert a whole directory to  specific formats.. :) but i lost it.
[03:09] <hendersho> ok thank you killer
[03:09] <killer_> hendersho: then  you can unzip tar.gz files and read them
[03:09] <hendersho> =]
[03:10] <hendersho> thank you
[03:10] <hendersho> wow dude is it free
[03:10] <killer_> hendersho: pppd scripts is just a set of text config and script files, you can read them all
[03:10] <tacosarecool> Anyone having problems with stickam
[03:10] <killer_> hendersho: yes :)
[03:10] <tacosarecool> I found the solution!
[03:10] <tacosarecool> Get twit live desktop
[03:10] <tacosarecool> Then
[03:10] <juanantonio> No problem, I'm trying MP4 or AVI output encoding with xVID, the Pocket PC will read everything...not with Windows Media, of course
[03:10] <tacosarecool> Allow it to access your camera and microphone
[03:10] <hendersho> is there a free trial killer
[03:11] <courtjesterg> ok i've been doing research and for some odd reason they talk about int he x config file it is suppose to say driver now mine doesn't even have a section that says driver also read that 96 isn't supported but i am running amd chip set that does support see so i shouldn't be affected
[03:11] <courtjesterg> and use the nv my hardware driver is active to 96
[03:12] <hendersho> ok once i
[03:12] <hendersho> killer: ok once i get that read how do i transfer it over to my linux?
[03:13] <juanantonio> I will continue, bye
[03:13] <Dr_willis> The xorg.conf file under the latest X releases.. has grown VERY minimal - due to X  autoconfuiguration features.
[03:13]  * thomas[away] is away: Gone away for now
[03:13] <killer_> hendersho: usb drive
[03:14] <Dr_willis> You can still use the older style xorg.confs :) i am using some of my one ones now.. or the nvidia-settings tool / nvidia-xconfig tools  can make one..
[03:14] <hendersho> um let me try to do that ill have to disconect the air card though cause i need one more space
[03:14] <killer_> hendersho: no prob.. just unplug it until you have all the files you need onto your kubuntu machine
[03:15] <killer_> hendersho: how much download GB does centennial cellular give you each month?
[03:16] <killer_> hendersho: can you put a SD car into your 881U?
[03:19] <hendersho> no i canot
[03:19] <hendersho> i have unlimited
[03:19] <hendersho> and my usb drive will not show up on the linux system
[03:20] <hendersho> killer:
[03:22] <tacosarecool> is kde 4.1.3 worth upgrading too?
[03:22] <hendersho> yes
[03:22] <tacosarecool> Ok
[03:23] <tacosarecool> Does it fix the weird permissions
[03:23] <coreymon77> tacosarecool: do you already have kde4?
[03:23] <tacosarecool> Yeah
[03:24] <coreymon77> then yes
[03:24] <coreymon77> all updates are worth it
[03:24]  * ThomasHC is back.
[03:24] <oscar> i am trying to install something to /usr/local/games/wop/ and it says i have no write permission
[03:24] <oscar> any help?
[03:24] <kaist> heya
[03:25] <kaist> my brother's computer lost power suddenly last night, and as a result, my dbus configuration got messed up bad
[03:25] <draik> Has anyone heard from ardchoille, oxdeadc0de, or russlar?
[03:25] <kaist> how would I restore it to defaults?
[03:25] <hendersho> yah its not to bd
[03:25] <hendersho> um
[03:26] <hendersho> reinstall it maybe?
[03:27] <kaist> it would default to whatever config was already there if I plain reinstalled it
[03:27] <hendersho> yup
[03:27] <kaist> which means the current messed up config would still be there
[03:28] <hendersho> ohh right
[03:28] <hendersho> um
[03:28] <draik> In 8.04, I had a Public File Server next to my K Menu. Is this now a widget or app that I can re-install?
[03:28] <hendersho> check the connections check for burn wires
[03:28] <kaist> ???
[03:28] <kaist> our transformer blew, the computer is fine
[03:29] <courtjesterg> HMM i pressed when reading somthing cntrol alt f1 said it restarted the x server
[03:29] <kaist> just I used xfs instead of ext3, and i'm regretting it
[03:29] <courtjesterg> my fonts appear why? Now its time to do some looking around
[03:29] <courtjesterg> yeah it blanked out alll the way and i had to do a reboot
[03:29] <tacosarecool> hello
[03:29] <courtjesterg> didn't expect that
[03:29] <tacosarecool> Ok theres a weird thing going on in kde
[03:30] <hendersho> killer
[03:30] <tacosarecool> how come like adobe air installers
[03:30] <hendersho> ti dont have a usb drive
[03:30] <hendersho> i*
[03:31] <tacosarecool> Can anyone help me?
[03:31] <courtjesterg> ok in my device manager that 96 is no longer activated to what it says but says there is a driver just a different version active
[03:32] <tacosarecool> Can anyone help me?
[03:32] <hendersho> i cant im new to it
[03:33] <courtjesterg> so i asume if i activate this recooment 96 driver again no fonts and i am assume i bet 177 drivers are active is there a way to see what version driver is currely active for my graphics card?
[03:33] <mister-tea> lsmod?
[03:34] <CyD> courtjesterg: nvidia-settings tells you if nothing else
[03:35] <CyD> dmesg | grep NVIDIA or such as well
[03:36] <ratchet__> how do i fix this?  http://paste.ubuntu.com/72687/
[03:38] <draik> ratchet__: It's in the repos.    sudo apt-get install googleearth
[03:38] <tacosarecool> Can anyone help me?
[03:38] <tacosarecool> !help !help
[03:39] <hendersho> !help
[03:40] <tacosarecool> help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[03:40] <courtjesterg> i am asumeing even when i do dowload and active that 96 driver and still view my x config file nothing is written to it and there fore it is never really installed correctly i have used envy and such and it even tells me the same and correct driver to use int he pass
[03:41] <tacosarecool> Hey draik can you help me?
[03:41] <draik> tacosarecool: What's your issue?
[03:41] <tacosarecool> Weird permissions under kde
[03:41] <tacosarecool> But under gnome I can install a air app without a pass
[03:41] <ratchet__> i did what you said and it gave me this http://paste.ubuntu.com/72689/
[03:42] <hendersho> ok guys brb
[03:42] <tacosarecool> Also when I try to install a air app under kde 4 it says install failed
[03:42] <courtjesterg> i asumeing this cause i have looked at others x file online and none show what mine does and have loads way for information on it so nothing is being writtent o my x config file
[03:42] <hendersho> wait where do i unstall the file killer_
[03:43] <PSiL0> umm, I have a question... How can one install cairo-dock applets in kubuntu...
[03:43] <tacosarecool> when I try to install a air app under kde 4 it says install failed
[03:43] <PSiL0> the synaptics package, nor the plugin package, did not contain any
[03:43] <courtjesterg> what is alt f2 for?
[03:44] <tacosarecool> search
[03:44] <PSiL0> court: command line
[03:44] <tacosarecool> When I try to install a air app under kde 4 it says install failed
[03:47] <draik> !repose | ratchet__
[03:47] <draik> !repos | ratchet__
[03:47] <killer_> hendersho: just unzip it into a temporary location and read it.. it tells you where to put it
[03:48] <hendersho> i cant read it
[03:48] <hendersho> there is no text files
[03:50] <su8044> hi everyone, anyone willing to help a complete noob in kubuntu?
[03:50] <hendersho> hey man im a neb too
[03:50] <hendersho> noob*
[03:50] <killer_> hendersho: they are all text files
[03:50] <su8044> good, maybe we can help each other..
[03:51] <hendersho> humm i cant seem to find it
[03:51] <hendersho> yah maybe
[03:51] <killer_> hendersho: sorry.. on your sierra link.. scroll down to "Connecting using PPP
[03:52] <su8044> know how to install a good pdf reader?
[03:52] <hendersho> ok what do you need
[03:52] <PSiL0> i thought kubuntu came with one..
[03:52] <PSiL0> okular, no?
[03:53] <su8044> don't know, it doesn't come preinstalled, and i would like something like foxit reader or anything alake
[03:53] <PSiL0> http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2008/06/23/install-adobe-acrobat-reader-812-on-ubuntu-804/
[03:53] <su8044> *alike
[03:53] <PSiL0> !acrobat
[03:53] <PSiL0> !acroread
[03:54] <su8044> no, not acrobar reader please... i hate it
[03:54] <PSiL0> then use okular
[03:54] <PSiL0> sudo apt-get install okular
[03:54] <su8044> ok, thanks... i'll try it
[03:55] <PSiL0> as for a plugin for firefox, I don't know... I use the acrobat plugin :p
[03:55] <PSiL0> !pdf
[03:55] <PSiL0> there
[03:56] <jimmy51_home> oh yeah... there's some dumb issue where firefox can't open your pdf viewer
[03:56] <jimmy51_home> i have that trouble as well
[03:56] <su8044> don't know about linux, but in windows acrobat takes about 100MB+ to install
[03:56] <jimmy51_home> i just download them, open local, and delete
[03:56] <su8044> foxit takes about 2MB
[04:03] <PSiL0> i can view pdfs in firefox just fine with adobe's pdf plugin...
[04:03] <courtjesterg> yes it working
[04:03] <PSiL0> Damn, I hope I don't sound like a shill for them
[04:03] <courtjesterg> no more bug the 96 driver is active  woot
[04:05] <twylight> sup, Rioting_pacifist
[04:06] <hendersho> brb i think
[04:11] <courtjesterg> !xconfig
[04:11] <courtjesterg> thats what i had to do to get the 96 driver working
[04:12] <tacosarecool> !FixRes
[04:12] <courtjesterg> my res is fine
[04:13] <courtjesterg> i had to reconfig and restart the x server to even activate the driver and actually see it is there
[04:13] <courtjesterg> even when it was suppose to be activate another words it didn't even know
[04:13] <courtjesterg> or used the driver even when it was activated the first time
[04:14] <courtjesterg> so it showed i was using it when in fact i never was
[04:15] <mefisto__> I'm running hardy, but also have kde4 installed from a ppa. I can't get widgets to appear in the list after installing them
[04:15] <courtjesterg> i dunno jack about widgets only about the right click and drag to screen and such
[04:15] <courtjesterg> and lock and unlock
[04:16] <courtjesterg> even open new panels and put my note pad in the panel
[04:24] <courtjesterg> now this looks like a real xconfig file: http://paste.ubuntu.com/72698/
[04:25] <courtjesterg> i am so proud of my self yes i am
[04:25] <courtjesterg> took a week to realize and fix
[04:25] <courtjesterg> after 5 reinstalls of the os
[04:26] <courtjesterg> or more actually
[04:26] <draik> Is anyone here using nVidia version 96? I am using it and the menu for KNetworkManager, Amarok and Konversation do not appear. Has anyone found a fix for this issue?
[04:26] <courtjesterg> me =)
[04:26] <courtjesterg> i had the same problem
[04:26] <courtjesterg> i jsut fixed it
[04:27] <draik> courtjesterg: You referencing the nVidia 96?
[04:27] <courtjesterg> yeah
[04:27] <courtjesterg> !xconfig
[04:27] <courtjesterg> i had to restart the x server and reconfig it
[04:28] <courtjesterg> actually i restart the xx server
[04:28] <courtjesterg> in sudo nano
[04:28] <draik> What did you reconfigure?
[04:28] <PSiL0> ahh
[04:28] <uman> HI everyone. IM in really big trouble.  I powered off my ubuntu 8.10 box without closing down vmware and now i cant open my xp virtual machine. I keep on getting the followin error. Please help. Thanks
[04:28] <uman> This virtual machine appears to be in use.
[04:28] <uman> If this virtual machine is already in use, press the "Cancel" button to avoid damaging it. If this virtual machine is not in use, press the "Take Ownership" button to obtain ownership of it.
[04:28] <courtjesterg> using alt f1
[04:28] <courtjesterg> then didn't know it reboot
[04:29] <courtjesterg> then went into nanop sundo nano
[04:29] <courtjesterg> reconfig the x server from there
[04:29] <courtjesterg> then reboot the x server
[04:29] <courtjesterg> then uninstalled and reinstalled the driver
[04:29] <courtjesterg> reboot i beleive something along that lines
[04:29] <wildbat> hihi
[04:30] <courtjesterg> !xconfig
[04:30] <wildbat> anyone what packages i should get to view MEPG4 and rmvb?
[04:34] <mefisto__> !medibuntu
[04:35] <uman> how do i delete a directory in terminal_
[04:36] <mefisto__> uman: if it's empty, rmdir
[04:36] <mefisto__> uman: if not empty, rm -r (but be careful with that command)
[04:38] <uman> thanks
[04:41] <mefisto__> wildbat: is rmvb a realplayer file?
[04:42] <wildbat> yea
[04:43] <wildbat> looking something like k-lite mega codec
[04:43] <mefisto__> wildbat: you might need realplayer for those. I don't know. but medibuntu will make installing w32codecs easy for just about everything else
[04:43] <dig> hi, just wonder how to access windows share files within kubuntu?
[04:45] <dig> !samba
[04:52] <mefisto__> wildbat: just tried playing a rmvb file. it opened and played in kaffeine for me
[04:53] <wildbat> mefisto__: so i just install media Medibuntu
[04:54] <mefisto__> wildbat: add the medibuntu repo, then install w32codecs and anything else you want that's in the medibuntu repo
[04:55] <mefisto__> wildbat: on the medibuntu website, see "Repository Howto"
[04:59] <ubuntu> hello, I am testing uboootinit this looks like it is going to be a great litle program
[04:59] <ubuntu> htough I never could get anything to boot of my USB stick lol
[05:00] <wildbat> mefisto__: than
[05:00] <wildbat> mefisto__: thanks you
[05:00] <mefisto__> no wildbat
[05:00] <ubuntu> wildbat, have you heard of Ubootinit?
[05:00] <mefisto__> *np
[05:01] <ubuntu> well, to see if it actualy does waht it says lol
[05:02] <msalmeron> hola
[05:03] <mr---t-> !es
[05:03] <PSiL0> !jp
[05:03] <mr---t-> ho;a is spanish
[05:03] <PSiL0> too bad there isn't a "real alternative" package for *nix
[05:03] <ubuntu> soo no I can not speak any spanish nor japanese
[05:04] <PSiL0> !rm
[05:04] <PSiL0> !realmedia
[05:04] <wildbat> btw;  anyone know about wubi ~ installation? is it possible to mount c:/
[05:04] <wildbat> c:\document and setting to /home
[05:08] <hacker> Hi, I'm trying to upgrade from 8.04 to 8.10.
[05:08] <hacker> this is on a iBook G4 (ppc)
[05:09] <hacker> the usual adept trickery does'nt quite work
[05:09] <hacker> so I got the alternate CD.
[05:10] <hacker> sudo /media/cdrom/cdromupgrade exits with:
[05:11] <hacker> gpgv: Good signature from "Ubuntu CD Image Automatic Signing Key <cdimage@ubuntu.com>"
[05:11] <hacker> and dies.
[05:11] <hacker> What should I do?
[05:12] <hacker> hello?
[05:12] <hacker__> anyone?
[05:13] <mefisto__> hacker__: no response means nobody here has suggestions
[05:14] <PSiL0> yeah, I would have pointed him to sudo..
[05:14] <PSiL0> oh wait..
[05:16] <PSiL0> !kubuntu
[05:22] <courtjesterg> wow now i have a font bug after restart blah
[05:22] <courtjesterg> !font
[05:23] <courtjesterg> fonts are kinda ink out sort of
[05:23] <courtjesterg> and my desktop effects are gone
[05:23] <courtjesterg> no fade no wobble
[05:24] <courtjesterg> !effects
[05:25] <courtjesterg> i don't have compiz installed see baotu that later have more fish to fry
[05:31] <courtjesterg> hjtfj
[05:31] <courtjesterg> !xconfig
[05:32] <courtjesterg> gg
[05:32] <courtjesterg> !fixres
[05:36] <courtjesterg> h
[05:37] <courtjesterg> h
[05:47] <courtjesterg> h
[05:55] <heather> woot
[05:55] <heather> any humans here?
[05:56] <heather> are you human zeltak?
[05:57] <heather> ok borred guess ill talk to myself
[06:08] <courtjesterg> h
[06:08] <courtjesterg> i am so into a graphics interface in teh nano for setting up my x config how i forgot but setting rule babes suck!1
[06:09] <courtjesterg> i think when i restarted it broght up the back up i dunno what it did got to fix
[06:10] <courtjesterg> yeah i am a story teller leave it be lol
[06:12] <freeRag> >	is it possible to start a game on a dedicated x server ?
[06:13] <PSiL0> court: so, doing the xorg config setup help out in any way?
[06:16] <courtjesterg> ~$ sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:16] <courtjesterg> dunno re doing this
[06:18] <courtjesterg> nah i restart that x server thing and everything fonts were fine except my effects where gone restarted my computer now effects still gone and i got ink blurs on my fonts
[06:18] <courtjesterg> freerag a dedicated server is connected all the time
[06:19] <courtjesterg> you can run a server from your machine except you have to make sure you have a good system adn good conenction to accept the load
[06:19] <courtjesterg> most people run two systems one for server and one for there selfs
[06:19] <courtjesterg> a t1 connection is usually for servers of game
[06:20] <courtjesterg> i once tryed running a server say halflife i could jump around in the maps i tested and played in but when someone joined they get frozen and can't play
[06:20] <courtjesterg> i don't have a t1 connection
[06:22] <courtjesterg> i got 2 cpus athon xp which are mod to run in duel mode and fixed on t4 or t3 wwith liquid metal to trick the k7d l master motherboard thinking they are mp chips
[06:22] <courtjesterg> and not that much ram
[06:22] <moj0rising> hi. I'm running kubuntu 8.04 and am suddenly having a problem playing dvds even though I've had libdvdcss2 installed and used to be able to play them w/ no problems.
[06:22] <moj0rising> anyone know what might be the issue there?
[06:22] <courtjesterg> but they still run as xp chips
[06:29] <courtjesterg> ok what ever i did i restarted again its good ohh let me check to see if my driver is active lol
[06:30] <courtjesterg> no driver isn't active
[06:31] <courtjesterg> !xserver
[06:31] <courtjesterg> !xconfig
[06:31] <courtjesterg> is there a list online wher ei can save a doc with all commands and what they do?
[06:31] <courtjesterg> commands for nano
[06:53] <courtjesterg> hm can't write to my own documents?
[06:54] <courtjesterg> ohh too long of a file name
[06:54] <skunkpimp_> First thing I would check is user permissions/access, it is a Unix thing after all. Filename would do that too. :P
[06:55] <courtjesterg> well what is the default userr i installed the system on my computer
[06:55] <mefisto__> too long? how long? Maybe it's spaces in the filename, not the length
[06:55] <courtjesterg> lots of spaces and name
[06:55] <courtjesterg> NVIDIA Accelerated Linux Driver Set README and Installation Guide
[06:55] <skunkpimp_> I would avoid symbols, especially #, which I've seen screw things up.. hah
[06:55] <courtjesterg> that was going to be the name
[06:56] <skunkpimp_> # is the comment sign for bash, for one..
[06:56] <courtjesterg> saving it from the site cause i can't bookmark for some odd reson
[06:57] <courtjesterg> ohh i can retard
[06:57] <mefisto__> courtjesterg: you can use quotes to include filenames with spaces, or use the  \  like this: File\ with\ spaces\ in\ the\ filename.txt
[06:59] <courtjesterg> http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/96.43.05/README/README.txt
[07:00] <rithy> hello​​​
[07:00] <rithy> can​​anyone​help​
[07:00] <abortd> i just installed windows on a partition it killed grub i reinstalled everything so windows is out of my grub menu now i try to fix it how the ubuntu website says and the windows boot option wont work any ideas?
[07:00] <courtjesterg> help with what specify
[07:01] <abortd> hm
[07:01] <courtjesterg> i am only a bot i can do so much!
[07:02] <mkquist> abortd: so grub didnt find the windows install when you reinstalled it huh?
[07:02] <abortd> no
[07:02] <mkquist> abortd: what is it doing?
[07:02] <abortd> nothing
[07:02] <abortd> it shows all of the linux ones
[07:02] <mkquist> abortd: no error?
[07:02] <abortd> i opened up the grub file
[07:02] <mkquist> abortd: or is there no option for windows?
[07:02] <abortd> and there was no windows in there
[07:02] <abortd> yes no option
[07:02] <abortd> there we go
[07:03] <abortd> good wording
[07:03] <mkquist> abortd: ic, so youll have to add it manually
[07:03] <abortd> yes
[07:03] <abortd> i tried
[07:03] <abortd> the one i used was botched
[07:03] <rithy> Abortd
[07:03] <mkquist> abortd: and it doesnt show in grub at boot then...
[07:03] <abortd> rithy
[07:03] <abortd> yes it shows with the one i put in there but doesnt work
[07:03] <rithy> I​have​problem​
[07:04] <mkquist> abortd: so probably just needs some tweaking...
[07:04] <rithy> with​my​computer​here
[07:04] <abortd> yeah well i dont know how to tweak it :P
[07:04] <mkquist> abortd: can you pastebin your grub file?
[07:04] <abortd> thats what im asking you
[07:04] <abortd> sure thing bossman
[07:04] <mkquist> lol
[07:04] <rithy> when​I​type​the​word​​​​​​​I​can​not​see​the​spaceing​
[07:05] <mefisto__> abortd: can you pastebin your /boot/grub/menu.lst ?
[07:05] <rithy> do​you​have​any​idea​how​to​do​it
[07:05] <abortd> hold on
[07:05] <mkquist> mefisto__: of course... lol
[07:05] <rithy> ???????????
[07:05] <abortd> i will brb i think i fixed it
[07:05] <rithy> My​Kubutu
[07:06] <courtjesterg> how come harddware manager doesn't let you activate any other drivers besiddes the one it recommends and only one it shows
[07:06] <raven__> where is the OSX-like global menu option in KDE 4
[07:06] <ferfactor> how can i move the panel to other part of the screen?
[07:07] <raven__> panel settings, then drag the edge of the stuff that appears around
[07:07] <raven__> it's a long fight to move panel to another part of the screen :p
[07:07] <courtjesterg> i think i am going to retry envy
[07:07] <courtjesterg> i swear i can use a higher driver with my card besides 96
[07:08] <courtjesterg> if i remeber right i have in the pass
[07:09] <mahi> is it possible to install kscreesaver into kubuntu 8.10?
[07:10] <courtjesterg> i have no use for screensavers i am a bot
[07:10] <twylight> I should not be up this late
[07:11] <PSiL0> abortd: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows?action=show&redirect=RestoreGrub
[07:11] <PSiL0> whops
[07:11] <PSiL0> 2late
[07:12] <PSiL0> *shrugs*
[07:12] <PSiL0> abortd: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows?action=show&redirect=RestoreGrub
[07:12] <twylight> sudo ./getfood_havecigarette_sleep.sh
[07:12] <PSiL0> hmmm, reminds me that I have to reinstall xp over my vista partition.. man, I wish I installed xp instead
[07:12] <abortd> i think its because i didnt adjust the hd0?
[07:12] <abortd> i tried that setup
[07:13] <PSiL0> maybe...
[07:13] <mefisto__> twylight: you should do that in your home, so you won't need sudo
[07:13] <PSiL0> who knows, I might be in your shoes tomorrow
[07:13] <abortd> hd0 is where its trying to boot windows from right?
[07:13] <twylight> mefisto__: I don't have a home
[07:13] <abortd> you will be
[07:13] <twylight> mefisto__: I live in a youth shelter
[07:14] <PSiL0> I think so, like I said, I haven't tried it myself yet, but it is well-known taht windows has to be in front of the queue..
[07:14] <PSiL0> I hate those types of kids
[07:14] <abortd> it has to be the front partition?
[07:15] <PSiL0> unfortunately, I do not think I am the best person to be answering your questions now.
[07:15] <PSiL0> !windows
[07:15] <PSiL0> !microsoft
[07:15] <abortd> this is a discussion on grub
[07:16] <PSiL0> !grub
[07:17] <mahi> is it possible to install kscreesaver into kubuntu 8.10?
[07:17] <mefisto__> kscreensaver?
[07:17] <mahi> yeah I just want to get some savers but can't find anything in my packages on adept
[07:19] <mahi> im grabbing the kscreensaver package from a site but wondering if it doesn't work seeing it's not in the intrepid repositories
[07:20] <mefisto__> it should be there... http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid/kscreensaver
[07:21] <mahi> hmm, I keep udating my packages and not able to find it though they appear to be updating fine
[07:22] <courtjesterg> this is odd how this fireefox browser is not the same browser used in windows with the same version number why is preferences in edit when it usually is in tools
[07:23] <courtjesterg> sea monkey has theres in edit as well
[07:23] <mahi> mefisto__ :how do I manually update my package list from a source I know has kscreensaver?
[07:24] <courtjesterg> they are disableing some functions the browser it looks like hmmm
[07:24] <courtjesterg> forget what i say i am like a detective
[07:25] <mefisto__> mahi: is this source an ubuntu repository?
[07:26] <mefisto__> mahi: I don't have intrepid installed, but it seems kscreensaver should be installed by default, and should be in official repos
[07:27] <courtjesterg> i think i born with a tail and they choped it off one day
[07:27] <courtjesterg> seriouly
[07:33] <courtjesterg> Whats launchpad? I mean i am kinda tired hearing about ubuntu when  i am using kubuntu i mean two seperate forums supposely two sepeerrate linuxs 2 different sites grrr
[07:33] <courtjesterg> plus talk about plug-ins
[07:35] <courtjesterg> i mean if you are going to name an os then the plug-ins should be named for that os not hear lets do this and still call some plug-in are from this place so what happened when ubuntu no longers want to support this project of kubuntu?
[07:36] <mefisto__> ??? what are you talking about?
[07:36] <courtjesterg> same development team wworking on two linux os's
[07:36] <courtjesterg> i mean with the help of the community
[07:37] <courtjesterg> i think i answer my own questions i am odd
[07:37] <courtjesterg> besides what is launchpad again lol>?
[07:38] <mefisto__> launchpad is a website, for software (ubuntu) developers
[07:38] <courtjesterg> the launchpad plugin intergration for ubuntu users but i use kubuntu that is my point
[07:43] <courtjesterg> oh sidebar extension is nice
[07:43] <mefisto__> well they could call it "for kubuntu users" but it would be exactly the same
[07:45] <courtjesterg> biofox i am not a enginner of biology science but  it is nice
[07:53] <ectospasm> courtjesterg: Ubuntu and Kubuntu are virtually identical.  They just have two different graphical frontends by default.  If you've got Kubuntu installed, an "aptitude -y install ubuntu-desktop" turns it into Ubuntu.
[07:54] <ectospasm> vice versa with "aptitude -y install kubuntu-desktop" on Ubuntu
[07:54] <ectospasm> the underlying operating system is the same
[07:57] <courtjesterg> it sound like o+ and o- blood lol
[07:58] <dig> Ash-Fox: regarding to file associations: system->system settings->advanced->file associations (You need to go throught it one by one, but I guss most of them should be default)
[07:59] <courtjesterg> whats the difference between graphic drivers the linux ia32 drivers and the linux freebsd x86?
[08:00] <courtjesterg> they both have the same driver version numbers
[08:00] <courtjesterg> http://www.nvidia.com/object/unix.html
[08:02] <Apples_Tree> Hey I'm having a few problems getting my soundcard to work. It's supported by ALSA, the correct driver has been loaded but no sound
[08:03] <ectospasm> Apples_Tree: check mixer levels
[08:03] <ectospasm> make sure the master channel isn't muted
[08:03] <Apples_Tree> Tried that but alsa mixer(and kmix) aren't muted
[08:04] <ectospasm> what about the PCM mixer?
[08:04] <Apples_Tree> Nope, nothing was muted
[08:04] <mefisto__> more than one soundcard?
[08:04] <ectospasm> are you 100% positive you have the speakers in the correct output port?
[08:04] <Apples_Tree> Yes, inbuilt and another
[08:05] <ectospasm> gotta select the proper card for output
[08:05] <Apples_Tree> How can I do that ?
[08:05] <mefisto__> Apples_Tree: it might be using the other soundcard
[08:05] <ectospasm> I don't recall, it just works for me... :-/
[08:05] <Apples_Tree> Yeah possible, I haven't been able to test the other though
[08:06] <mefisto__> Apples_Tree: "asoundconf list" to find out the names of the cards
[08:07] <mefisto__> Apples_Tree: and "sudo asoundconf set-default-card <card-name>" to choose the default
[08:07] <Apples_Tree> Brb it seems editing .../alsa-base has caused the card to not be detected anymore
[08:07] <Apples_Tree> Thanks for everything so far, I'll be back in one sec
[08:08] <ectospasm> hmmm... I thought I had onboard sound... maybe I disabled it in BIOS.  It's been years since I did that, so I probably just forgot
[08:10] <Kalidarn> hey does anyone remember how to solve the 'bad passhprase' problem with kmail
[08:11] <Kalidarn> (i remember it was an upstream issue as i'd had the same problem in gentoo and archlinux) i forgot how i fixed it
[08:11] <Kalidarn> :P because now its happening in kubuntu intrepid too
[08:11] <Kalidarn> plus i don't want to manually do things to symlinks which i think i did in archlinux to fix it
[08:12] <Kalidarn> i did check https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnupg/+bug/262748
[08:12] <Kalidarn> rather https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pinentry-qt4/+bug/281487
[08:12] <Kalidarn> i think gpg-agent isnt running
[08:12] <Apples_Tree> Back
[08:14] <Kalidarn> perhaps i need to add eval `gpg-agent -- daemon` to a sh in autostart
[08:14] <Kalidarn> for when kde opens
[08:14] <Kalidarn> but there should be a nicer way
[08:14] <Kalidarn> ls
[08:14] <beta-guy> can some one help me with wireless issues?
[08:15] <ectospasm> not I
[08:15] <Kalidarn> what sort of card do you haces
[08:15] <ectospasm> I haven't dealt with wireless in a long time
[08:15] <Kalidarn> have, i know nothing about NDIS wrapper so don't ask me ;)
[08:15] <Apples_Tree> Ok my soundcard is now set as the default , but when I just tried then modprobe snd- fails
[08:15] <ectospasm> ndiswrapper should be considered an unsavory solution, IMO
[08:16] <ectospasm> Apples_Tree: what's the failure message?
[08:16] <beta-guy> when I had Vista on my laptop it was getting near perfect signal, now with Kubuntu, with the laptop in the exact same place I get 2/4 bars according to Knetworkmanager. it also keep cutting out on me, how can I get this working right?
[08:17] <Apples_Tree> ectospasm: FATAL: Module snd_ not found.
[08:17] <ectospasm> Apples_Tree: um, snd- needs to be snd-<something>
[08:18] <ectospasm> where <something> is the driver for your card.
[08:18] <ectospasm> should be loaded automatically
[08:18] <ectospasm> Apples_Tree: lsmod | grep snd
[08:18] <ectospasm> should already be loaded
[08:19] <Apples_Tree> Lol so it does, thanks for catching that
[08:19] <beta-guy> anyone have any idea how to resolve this? it's kind of annoying playing games or watching video and being interrupted in the middle...
[08:20] <ectospasm> beta-guy: complain to your wireless manufacturer for not providing complete, open source drivers for your adapter.
[08:20] <ectospasm> ...or ditch that adapter altogether and get one that's supported under Linux
[08:20] <beta-guy> so no tweak to enable high power on the card or anythign?
[08:20] <ectospasm> I dunno, look at the documentation for the driver you're using
[08:20] <Apples_Tree> Driver has been modprobbed lol. Reboot and hope for success ?
[08:21] <beta-guy> that might void the warranty
[08:21] <beta-guy> how do you modprobe?
[08:21] <ectospasm> what warranty?  Loading an open source driver voids a warranty?  That's lame, and there's no way to enforce it anyway
[08:21] <beta-guy> replacing the network card
[08:21] <beta-guy> not loading a driver :p
[08:21] <Apples_Tree> Oops sorry beta-guy I was talking to ectospasm
[08:22] <courtjesterg> does anyone use the adept  settings hardwaare drivers app i can't find it after download?
[08:22] <ectospasm> beta-guy: is this a laptop?
[08:22] <beta-guy> yeah
[08:22] <ectospasm> beta-guy: you can get a card adapter that's fully supported, and ignore the onboard
[08:23] <courtjesterg> i've been using nvidia x erver settings
[08:23] <ectospasm> I've done that on a couple of laptops over the years, works fine
[08:23] <beta-guy> you mean PCMCIA cads?
[08:23] <ectospasm> beta-guy: yeah
[08:23] <beta-guy> ok
[08:23] <ectospasm> do research first
[08:23] <ectospasm> find one that has the best Linux support, and use that
[08:23] <Kalidarn> i must say after using gentoo for 2 years
[08:23] <ectospasm> that can be more difficult than it seems
[08:23] <Kalidarn> and using archlinux for one.
[08:23] <Kalidarn> i do very much like intrepid kubuntu ;)
[08:23] <Kalidarn> i like the fact its not as nubby as opensuse
[08:24] <courtjesterg> wwhere did this xchat come from
[08:24] <Kalidarn> and annoiyng
[08:24] <ectospasm> Kalidarn: I've never used archlinux, but Gentoo should be strictly for learning
[08:24] <Kalidarn> gentoo is good for dev stuff
[08:24] <Kalidarn> nice and up to date but.. compiling can be a pain on slower systems
[08:24] <Kalidarn> archlinux is nice too as its rolling release
[08:24] <Kalidarn> but not really useful for production servers, i'd use debian for that
[08:24] <Kalidarn> or a enterprise distro that has more focus on security
[08:24] <Kalidarn> ie apparmor/selinux
[08:25] <Kalidarn> or openbsd
[08:25] <Kalidarn> or debian as that does too
[08:25] <Apples_Tree> ectospasm:  Sound is working. Thanks a bunch : ) I hope you have a nice day
[08:25] <Kalidarn> ive heard good things about ubuntu based servers though
[08:25] <ectospasm> Is openbsd still being actively maintained?  I thought it fell by the wayside
[08:25] <Apples_Tree> And mefisto__ too . Thanks alot
[08:25] <ectospasm> ubuntu server is a snap to setup
[08:25] <Kalidarn> (last time i used kubuntu was breezy) and i must say it was a lot crappier than it is now ;)
[08:25] <ectospasm> Kalidarn: welcome back, then
[08:26] <Kalidarn> yar ive tried all distros
[08:26] <ectospasm> we should move this discussion to OT
[08:26] <Kalidarn> ive used fedora core 5 for about 6-12 months too and opensuse for about the same time
[08:26] <Kalidarn> true
[08:26] <Kalidarn> what is the ot channel for kubuntu?
[08:26]  * Kalidarn forgot
[08:26] <ectospasm> Kalidarn: kubuntu-offtopic
[08:26] <ectospasm> s/k/#k/
[08:26] <Kalidarn> ah kk
[08:27] <Kalidarn> so is there a nice wiki article describing this annoying gpg issue
[08:27] <Kalidarn> i know gpg is a pain in the ass in kde4
[08:36] <courtjesterg> oh my this extendion make firfox so much better then before wonders if there is a css/html editor in here or plugin
[08:36] <courtjesterg> just need it aas a file viewer
[08:47] <courtjesterg> hhm didn't ever notice software security device in firefox interesting
[08:48] <courtjesterg> can change password but no password is currently set
[08:48] <courtjesterg> adavnce device manager start clicking on a few things
[08:48] <courtjesterg> in firefox
[08:57] <twylight`sleep> night
[08:57] <courtjesterg> you know i was thinking maybe hal is the reason why my cd/rewrite isn't reading disks
[09:08] <mefisto__>  courtjesterg: can you manually mount cd's?
[09:16] <courtjesterg> to device manager?>
[09:16] <courtjesterg> look up in aadept about mount i beleive there is some app's in there
[09:17] <Saroset> In konsole, how do I open something? Like, system.ini in wine?
[09:17] <mefisto__> courtjesterg: like this: sudo mount /dev/scd0 /media/cdrom
[09:19] <flueken> did someone know a tool to find equal files in a directory? i need that to find equal mails in the kmail mail directory..
[09:19] <Saroset> Nevermind.
[09:21] <mefisto__> flueken: I think diff can do that
[09:22] <flueken> mefisto__: did you know how? i don't know how i can find with diff equal files in one directory with sub directories..
[09:31] <flueken> mefisto__: "dupes" seems to be the tool i was looking for :-)
[09:40] <jose> hola
[09:41] <jose> alguien me puede ayudar
[09:41] <ThomasD> !es | jose
[10:06] <courtjesterg> ok i have java plug-in 1.6.0_110 and shockwave flash 10.0r12 installed on my firefox  something isn't work right cause in konqouer at leaast i can see youville trying to load in facebook
[10:07] <courtjesterg> here i can't
[10:07] <courtjesterg> yoville
[10:21] <courtjesterg> see there is somehting wrong i click on start in this flash java application game and i go no where
[10:21] <courtjesterg> took awhile to load been trying to get this going
[10:26] <courtjesterg> !flaash
[10:26] <courtjesterg> !flaash
[10:26] <courtjesterg> !flash
[10:32] <sourcemaker> when I click on a URL... then quanta is used as default browser instead of konqueror... how can I configure konqueror as prefered once?
[10:34] <courtjesterg> interesting maybe the font bug isn't a bug looked in systmatic packagemager and a bunch of fonts are in there that aren't installed for reasons of course
[10:34] <courtjesterg> for x86
[10:34] <courtjesterg> when i typed in flash
[10:42] <histotest> There is no plasmoid for a terminal on the desktop?
[10:43] <histotest> Is there a plasmoid for a terminal?  sry thats a little better.
[10:48] <Ayabara> anyone with an nvidia 8600M GT card that have good tips on how to get better performance in Kubuntu 8.10?
[10:48] <vladi_> histotest: yes.. there is a plasmoid for a terminal. click mouse dx on the desktop, and choose what you need..
[10:55] <mysticfrost123> hello iam getting logged out after upgrading to 8.10
[10:55] <mysticfrost123> anyone can help please
[10:57] <aaa_> hello
[11:21] <Ayabara> !nvidia
[11:23] <courtjesterg> http://www.untangle.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=273&Itemid=747&gclid=CKCNvf7J-ZYCFQO5GgodA26iXQ
[11:23] <courtjesterg> firewall and some
[11:25] <costin> need help plzz what is channel Romanian ? ubuntu?
[11:29] <costin> ?
[11:31] <zhcxc> hi
[11:34] <Wardj3> Hello, is there a way in the IRC client Konversation to make modes appear before someone's nick when they talk in a channel? eg.: <@Ward>, <%Ward>, etc
[11:35] <dbeaver> hi
[11:36] <dbeaver> Hello
[11:38] <courtjesterg> !moddes
[11:38] <courtjesterg> !modes
[11:39] <Wardj3> !konversation
[11:39] <Wardj3> :(
[11:39] <ThomasD> !info konversation
[11:40] <Wardj3> !info konversation modes
[11:40] <Wardj3> o
[11:47] <maximilian_> hey
[11:47] <maximilian_> any kubuntu 8.04 / 8.1 users here?
[11:52] <starenka> hi. what repo should i add i want to intall just some apps from kde4? (ktorrent etc
[11:53] <starenka> (using kde 3.5)
[11:55] <Walex3> starenka: not so simple. KDE is a very integrated package, where all apps share an enormous amount of code/data. So you need to install at least the base and libs packages anyhow.
[11:55] <courtjesterg> is dolpin really needed? i mean look we have konqouer i really hate it when i have same programs that do the same thing waste of space
[11:55] <starenka> yep i already got those as i used kde4 before (and then stopped and left some application from kde4 i use)... i just need the repo
[11:56] <marc-andre> is adept not searching in third-party repos?
[11:58] <poezer> hello
[11:59] <marc-andre> hiho
[11:59] <marc-andre> i mean adept in 8.10
[11:59] <poezer> anyone uk here?
[11:59] <Ayabara> I have both gnome and kde installed. does it matter if I run gdm or kdm?
[11:59]  * marc-andre = France
[11:59] <poezer> cool
[11:59] <marc-andre> Ayabara: not really
[12:00] <Ayabara> marc-andre: great. thanks.
[12:00] <poezer> i prefer kde
[12:00] <marc-andre> me too
[12:00] <marc-andre> :D
[12:00] <poezer> im running ubuntu ultimate edition 2.0
[12:01] <marc-andre> ultimate edition ? never heard of that... *googles*
[12:01] <lakis1982> i have kubuntu intrepid ... in the desktop switcher , if i am in desktop 1 and i open some windows , and then i switch to desktop 2 , those windows are also opened but minimized... is there a way to make desktop 1 have its own windows opened , desktop 2 to have some other windows ,  desktop 3 some other windows and so on .... ???
[12:01] <poezer> very good distro m8 probably the best one
[12:03] <marc-andre> mhmm, looks nice
[12:03] <poezer> very good os
[12:04] <marc-andre> lakis1982: imho you just right-click on the taskbar and choose the second possibility
[12:04] <poezer> how do i install my ati driver? anyone know have atihd 4850
[12:04] <marc-andre> poezer: does ubuntu not propose you the proprietary driver dialog?
[12:05] <marc-andre> poezer: else try envy
[12:05] <lakis1982> mard andre what you mean ?
[12:05] <marc-andre> or envy-ng
[12:05] <poezer> does envy work with ati/
[12:05] <marc-andre> poezer: yes
[12:05] <poezer> cool
[12:05] <poezer> ati-driver-installer-8-11-x86.x86_64.run is what i downloaded
[12:05] <marc-andre> poezer: with envy i installed my ATI on work to support multiscreens
[12:06] <poezer> i think ati make better cards tbh
[12:06] <desu> http://www.linux.com/feature/137106
[12:06] <marc-andre> poezer: preverably use envy
[12:06] <poezer> great thanks
[12:07] <marc-andre> desu: that article concerns 1.8, maybe 2.0 is improved?
[12:07] <desu> probably... dunno, haven't tried 2.0 yet...
[12:08] <marc-andre> i stick to the good ole original xD
[12:08] <poezer> theres so much installed i cannot find anything lol
[12:08] <marc-andre> i prefer a slack system where i add what _i_ want :D
[12:08] <lakis1982> marc-andre ???
[12:09] <marc-andre> lakis1982: yes?
[12:09] <lakis1982> what you mean right click on taskbar ?
[12:09] <marc-andre> lakis1982: are you under gnome or kde?
[12:09] <lakis1982> i dont see any option
[12:09] <lakis1982> kde 4.1
[12:09] <marc-andre> lakis1982: just a sec
[12:09] <lakis1982> ok
[12:10] <courtjesterg> !envy
[12:11] <marc-andre> lakis1982: the bar on the bottom, there where your programs are, you right click on the free space
[12:11] <lakis1982> ok and then?
[12:11] <marc-andre> then you have "configure taskbar" or something similar
[12:11] <lakis1982> task manageger setting you mean ?
[12:11] <marc-andre> yes
[12:12] <lakis1982> ok
[12:12]  * marc-andre is using the french version...
[12:12] <lakis1982> and what do i chooose?
[12:12] <marc-andre> then choos the second possibility
[12:12] <lakis1982> ok lets see
[12:12] <marc-andre> "show only the actual desktop"
[12:12] <marc-andre> or something
[12:12] <lakis1982> niceee
[12:12] <lakis1982> thanks pal
[12:12] <marc-andre> ;)
[12:14] <marc-andre> but back to my question : does adept not search in third party repos??? i added the repo for TA Spring and i don't find spring in adept, but in the console when i install manually without searching 'spring' it installs it
[12:15] <lakis1982> something else for anyone knows....  i have two hard disks in my kubuntu intrepid ... the small one 80gb on which i have installed the kubuntu , and one bigger 320gb which i have them ust for storing documents , media etc... when i log in do kubuntu and i go to open local disk 320gb it always asks me for a password .... how can i make it to never ask for a password when i try to get into the local disk ???
[12:15] <marc-andre> ok, i take back the searching in the console, apt-cache results spring... but adept still doesn't show any result...
[12:16] <ilham> hello. what is app to open 3gp video
[12:16] <marc-andre> lakis1982: do you share the second harddisk with another operating system?
[12:16] <marc-andre> ilham: videolan player
[12:16] <marc-andre> VLC short
[12:16] <lakis1982> yes..because on the 80gb hard disk i have installed kubuntu and windows vista as a second OS , and i have the 320gb hard disk for storage only ....
[12:17] <ilham> marc-andre: I'll try
[12:17] <marc-andre> lakis1982: i have the same "problem", but i didn't bother to look for a solution...
[12:17] <poezer> linux makes vista look like a toy
[12:17] <telmessos> Hi all. I need to install ndiswrapper to my desktop computer which has no internet connection at the moment. is there a direct download link for APT package of ndiswrapper to download. Also I need to learn with which command I will install it after I transfer the file to my desktop computer.
[12:17] <marc-andre> telmessos: what do you want to install ?
[12:17] <Dr_willis> lakis1982,  thats because the drive is not listed in fstab. so its not automounting.. but it mounts by hal - when you first access it.
[12:17] <courtjesterg> !xconfig
[12:18] <Dr_willis> lakis1982,  the fix is to put a proper fstab entry for it in /etc/fstab
[12:18] <lakis1982> yes
[12:18] <lakis1982> is there a way to make it automounting automatically?
[12:18] <Dr_willis> install/run ntfs-config  may do it for you -if its ntfs
[12:18] <courtjesterg> !11rm
[12:18] <courtjesterg> !rm
[12:18] <lakis1982> its ntfs
[12:18] <Dr_willis> lakis1982,  the fix is to put a proper fstab entry for it in /etc/fstab   <<<<------------------  Using the ntfs-config tool.. is one way
[12:18] <telmessos> marc-andre: ndiswrapper. but the computer I will install has no internet connection. I will download the APT file to this computer. and transfer it to the other computer with a Flash Disk
[12:19] <marc-andre> telmessos: no, i meant what you need to make working with ndiswrapper
[12:19] <poezer> thanks for the info on envy it worked driver is installed,
[12:19] <marc-andre> poezer: :D good to hear
[12:19] <telmessos> marc-andre: USB wireless device
[12:19] <marc-andre> telmessos: what brand?
[12:20] <lakis1982> let me install it through adept manager
[12:20] <Dr_willis> poezer,  you will proberly have tor erun that envy tool after every kernel upgrade
[12:20] <poezer> i downloaded some sound drivers from asus for my onboard sound but i cannot figure out the installation procedure
[12:21] <telmessos> marc-andre: brand is Inca. I will tell you what it writes when I get a lsusb
[12:21] <Dr_willis> poezer,  they actually had downloadable linux drivers? thats amazing.
[12:21] <poezer> yea its a asus p5e3 premium wifi x48 board
[12:22] <telmessos> marc-andre:  Bus 001 Device 002 : ID 0457:0163 Silicon Integrated Systems Corp. 802.11 Wireless LAN Adapter
[12:22] <lakis1982> dr willis?
[12:22] <lakis1982> i installed ntfs-config
[12:22] <lakis1982> what should i do ?
[12:22] <Dr_willis> err.. Run it...
[12:22] <poezer> set it to read and write
[12:22] <lakis1982> i run it
[12:23] <Dr_willis> i forget if ond has to do a kdesudo ntfs-config or just 'ntfs-config'
[12:23] <Dr_willis> example fstab entry for my ntfs windows drive ->
[12:23] <Dr_willis> # Entry for /dev/sdb1 :
[12:23] <Dr_willis> UUID=0A5E19E75E19CC77 /media/vista ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_US.UTF-8 0 1
[12:23] <courtjesterg> !xserver
[12:24] <marc-andre> telmessos: what ubuntu do you use?
[12:24] <courtjesterg> !server
[12:24] <courtjesterg> !xorg
[12:24] <telmessos> marc-andre: Kubuntu's latest version
[12:24] <telmessos> I downloaded 3-4 days ago.
[12:25] <lakis1982> it gives me a list with only one hard disk .. it says dev/sda1 ... is this my 320gb disk ?
[12:25] <telmessos> marc-andre: sorry lost connection for a min. did you write sth for me ?
[12:26] <marc-andre> telmessos: nope :)
[12:26] <lakis1982> it saysenable write support for external device..should i check it ???
[12:26] <Dr_willis> lakis1982,  how many hard disks do you have?
[12:26] <ilham_> marc-andre: thanks. I just add vlc to open 3gp file. but where is the sound?
[12:26] <lakis1982> two
[12:26] <lakis1982> one 80 gb for the os installed
[12:26] <lakis1982> and one 320gb for storage
[12:27] <Dr_willis> notes that a single hard DISK may have 2+ filesystems and thus show up under windows as c: and D: you are not confuising that are you?
[12:27] <marc-andre> ilham: uhmm, no idea...
[12:27] <Dr_willis> the ntfsconfig tool would only show ntfs filssytems i imagine
[12:27] <Dr_willis> lakis1982,  you could alwyas check all the disks with 'sudo fdisk -l'
[12:27] <lakis1982> 80 gb has two fileystems because i have two os installed ..vista with ntfs and kubuntu with ext3
[12:28] <poezer> set ntfs config to read and write mode then you will se windows
[12:29] <lakis1982> ok
[12:29] <lakis1982> my 320gb is listed ans /dev/sdb
[12:29] <telmessos> marc-andre: will you tell me where I can download the APT package for it ?
[12:29] <lakis1982> but there isnt win the ntfs config
[12:29] <poezer> synaptic package manager installs everything
[12:30] <marc-andre> telmessos: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/n/
[12:30] <ilham_> anyone, open 3gp file with vlc. but there is no sound. any idea?
[12:31] <poezer> system.administration.synaptic package manager
[12:31] <telmessos> marc-andre: thanks but I don't even know which package to download this is my 2nd day in Kubuntu. Please tell me what to download from here.
[12:32] <Dr_willis> run vlc from a terminal, look for error emssages/info ilham_
[12:32] <lakis1982> what shhould i do ?
[12:33] <telmessos> marc-andre: I just need to download a file which I can install with the package manager of Kubuntu
[12:34] <ilham_> Dr_willis: here is, no suitable decoder module for fourcc `samr'
[12:35] <Dr_willis> ilham_,  theres the issue then..  ive never heard of that codec.
[12:35] <Dr_willis> lakis1982,  you may want to be a bit more clear on what youve done and what problem you are having exactly.
[12:36] <ilham_> Dr_willis: any idea? this is common files from nokia phone.
[12:36] <Dr_willis> adding ntfs filesystems to fstab can be done in several different ways.. personally I just manually edit the file.
[12:36] <Dr_willis> ilham_,  maybe  some special codec that only nokia supports. time to hit google I guess..
[12:38] <marc-andre> telmessos: just a sec
[12:38] <ilham_> Dr_willis: anyway thanks
[12:39] <marc-andre> telmessos: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/n/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper-common_1.52-1ubuntu1_all.deb
[12:39] <marc-andre> telmessos: this file is IMHO what you need
[12:39] <marc-andre> telmessos: and you install it in the console with dpkg -i
[12:42] <telmessos> marc-andre: I couldn't understand the last thing you said about installation
[12:44] <marc-andre> telmessos: on your second PC you go into the console (Konsole) and execute the command 'sudo dpkg -i ndiswrapper...deb'
[12:44]  * marc-andre brb
[12:44] <telmessos> ok thanks :)
[12:50] <marc-andre> re
[12:53] <telmessos> marc-andre: re.. I get a error message of "No ndiswrapper utils found!" I downloaded the utils file from the address you gave. But the funny thing is on this computer the file is listed on the flash disk. but when I plug the flash disk to the Kubuntu computer the file does not appear
[12:54] <marc-andre> telmessos: did you unplug correctly the flasdisk on the internet pc?
[12:55] <courtjesterg> think i fuguired out why my cd/rewrite is working download app hall device manager
[12:55] <telmessos> marc-andre: do I need to do it. this is also linux. Pardus Linux.
[12:55] <marc-andre> telmessos: everytime you need to 'eject' an usb-device
[12:56] <marc-andre> telmessos: else the files are not correctly written on the device (flash-drive)
[12:56] <courtjesterg> in scsi hot adapter it goes scsi device the list my cd-rom and flooy drive tthen sstarts a new scsi device
[12:57] <courtjesterg> it should i believe be where the other two are but tis not
[12:57] <telmessos> marc-andre: did it. but still it doesn't appear on the Kubuntu computer.
[12:57] <telmessos> ah... it seems to be a hidden file
[12:59] <marc-andre> telmessos: hidden?
[12:59] <UnknownUser56> when I tried booting from the live cd ,this happens .. odd - http://i412.photobucket.com/albums/pp205/None_0x04/error.jpg
[13:00] <telmessos> marc-andre: for some reason it was a hidden file. I just changed the settings of KDE as "Show hidden files" and it suddenly appeared.
[13:00] <UnknownUser56> anyone here know the problem ?
[13:07] <zer0o> hi guys, if an app crashes when im not here but i need it to keep running, is there a way, a script or i dunno for this app to be re-runned after any crash?
[13:07] <marc-andre_> zer0o: cron
[13:08] <zer0o> marc-andre_: what's that?
[13:08] <marc-andre_> zer0o: you need to write a little script that verifies if the script is running and in case not starts the programm
[13:08] <marc-andre_> zer0o: 'man cron'
[13:08] <zer0o> as if i was able to do that :D
[13:09] <marc-andre_> zer0o: look up some tutos about bash scripting
[13:09] <zer0o> alright
[13:09] <zer0o> thanks
[13:10] <courtjesterg> !guest
[13:10] <courtjesterg> is there aa way to create a guest account on my computer how do make another user?
[13:12] <UnknownUser56> when I tried booting from the live cd ,this happens .. odd - http://i412.photobucket.com/albums/pp205/None_0x04/error.jpg
[13:13] <zer0o> marc-andre_: is kron, not cron
[13:13] <zer0o> right?
[13:15] <marc-andre_> zer0o: no
[13:15] <zer0o> i think for kde it is
[13:16] <marc-andre_> zer0o: has nothing to do with KDE nor GNOME
[13:16] <marc-andre_> zer0o: it's linux base
[13:16] <marc-andre_> zer0o: anacron, cron
[13:16] <marc-andre_> zer0o: what ubuntu do you have?
[13:17] <zer0o> kubuntu
[13:17] <zer0o> hardy heron
[13:18] <zer0o> and nothing matches with cron
[13:18] <zer0o> but there's a kron which is a task scheduler
[13:18] <marc-andre_> zer0o: open Konsole and type 'man cron'
[13:26] <zer0o> where's located the .amule bin file? (it would be .exe on xp)
[13:27] <Dr_willis>  try 'which amule'
[13:29] <BluesKaj> howdy
[13:30] <telmessos> marc-andre_: are you still here ?
[13:30] <Dekans> does someone have an ATI 4870 card ?
[13:30] <Thor> zer0o: why dont you use the locate command or find from KDE?
[13:31] <zer0o> found it
[13:31] <zer0o> now the question is
[13:35] <marc-andre_> telmessos: yes
[13:36] <Machtin> hm
[13:36] <Machtin> when i want to create an alias which is supposed to stay.. not just for one console-session
[13:36] <Machtin> in which file do i have to save it?
[13:39] <marc-andre> Machtin: ?
[13:39] <Dr_willis>  .bashrc or .bash_profile
[13:39] <vallhalla81> hi there all just a quick question how do i stop the windows switching when i go over the edge? thankyou
[13:40] <Dr_willis> Machtin,  or those scripts read some other file you can use.
[13:40] <telmessos> marc-andre: I installed ndiswrapper and installed the driver. I added alias with the command of ndiswrapper -m. But when I try to modprobe ndiswrapper I get an error message of "FATAL" Could not open '/lib/modules/2.6.27-7-generic/kernel/ubuntu/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko' : No such file or directory
[13:40] <vallhalla81> sorry windows should read work space
[13:42] <marc-andre> telmessos: try : 'sudo find / * | grep ndiswrapper.ko'
[13:43] <guren> hi guys.. i still have a problem with kopete when connecting to yahoo "17 - remote host connection closed". Is anyone else experiencing the same problem?
[13:44] <Lord_Drachenblut> guren: I had that problem last night but it seems to have stopped for me now
[13:44] <marc-andre> guren: sorry, it works for me
[13:46] <guren> Lord_Drachenblut: Sometimes the problem stops for me too.. but today, it only worked for me once
[13:48] <tyler_> hi my name is tyler
[13:49] <telmessos> marc-andre: no result
[13:50] <ubujack> hoping someone can help me.  just rebooted my kubuntu 8.04 since i had installed updates a couple of days ago.  now it seems like x can't access the nvidia drivers anymore.  am booted from another partition, but have access to the fs in question.  any ideas ?
[13:50] <tyler__> tyler1ma
[13:51] <PhilRod> ubujack: what's the exact problem you're seeing?
[13:52] <ubujack> PhilRod: i think startx is failing to start the xserver.  so it's kinda looping in the kdm init
[13:52] <tyler_> hii
[13:53] <tyler_> hi my name is tyler
[13:53] <ubujack> PhilRod: i can login in a shell, but i can't get kde up and running anymore.
[13:54] <PhilRod> ubujack: ok. Does lsmod show the nvidia driver?
[13:54] <tyler_> please go tailk to me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[13:54] <ubujack> hm, don't know.  am booted from another partition now so i can reach irc :)
[13:56] <PhilRod> ubujack: ok. Then I'd suggest the following: reboot to ubuntu, "sudo emacs /etc/X11/xorg.conf" and change "Driver nvidia" in section "Device" to "Driver nv". That'll change to using the opensource driver and then you can at least get into X to continue debugging
[13:57] <Dr_willis> emacs? :)
[13:57] <ubujack> PhilRod: thanks will give that a try.
[13:58] <tyler_> do want to play mario with level editor? click on http://pouetpu.pbwiki.com/SMF_480X360
[13:58] <tyler_> hi allcle
[13:58] <PhilRod> Dr_willis: what else would anyone want to use as an editor? ;-)
[13:59] <tyler_> hi ailce
[13:59] <Dr_willis> is emacs even installed by default :)
[14:00] <tyler_>  do want to play mario with level editor? click on http://pouetpu.pbwiki.com/SMF_480X360
[14:00] <tyler_>  do want to play mario with level editor? click on http://pouetpu.pbwiki.com/SMF_480X360
[14:01] <Dr_willis> tyler_,  err.. no we dont..
[14:01] <Dr_willis> :P
[14:03] <tyler_>  do want to play mario with level editor? click on http://pouetpu.pbwiki.com/SMF_480X360
[14:03] <tyler_>  do want to play mario with level editor? click on http://pouetpu.pbwiki.com/SMF_480X360
[14:04] <walke1> hi, can anybody help on installing ubuntu ?
[14:04] <walke1> i got error :(
[14:04] <tyler_>  do want to play mario with level editor? click on http://pouetpu.pbwiki.com/SMF_480X360
[14:05] <PhilRod> op please
[14:08] <walke1> thanks...
[14:08] <Guest42315> guys i have some problem:-p
[14:09] <PhilRod> Novalgina2Fast: what is it?
[14:09] <Novalgina2Fast> when i try to play to guild wars(with wine)
[14:09] <Machtin> thanks Dr_willis
[14:10] <Novalgina2Fast> the game closed
[14:10] <Novalgina2Fast> and this is the error in terminal
[14:10] <Novalgina2Fast> err:seh:raise_exception Exception frame is not in stack limits => unable to dispatch exception.
[14:14] <Novalgina2Fast> someone know why?
[14:15] <Novalgina2Fast>  ok,don't worry^^
[14:15] <Novalgina2Fast> but i have an other problem so
[14:16] <Novalgina2Fast> when i play(with all the players) a file .rm
[14:16] <Novalgina2Fast> the audio is later respect the video
[14:17] <tyler_>  do want to play mario with level editor? click on http://pouetpu.pbwiki.com/SMF_480X360
[14:18] <tyler_>  do want to play mario with level editor? click on http://pouetpu.pbwiki.com/SMF_480X360
[14:23] <LjL> PhilRod: when something like that happens and no op seems to notice, please use the command !ops (don't do it now)
[14:23] <PhilRod> ok, thanks LjL
[14:28] <ncfi1013> what can .flac be converted to so it will play on a cd player and what software would i have to use?
[14:30] <Tallken> hi all! how do I debug kopete crashing? kopete-dbg package doesn't exist in Intrepid Ibex (Kopete crashes when opening Settings window)
[14:31] <PhilRod> ncfi1013: take a look at k3b in the first instance - it can probably do what you want
[14:32] <PhilRod> Tallken: kdenetwork-dbg maybe
[14:32] <ced_> hi.
[14:32] <ncfi1013> ok now all i need to know is what can .flac be converted to so it will play on a cd player?
[14:32] <ced_> How do i use ventrilo on linux?
[14:33] <JackWinter> PhilRod: hi, sorry got sidetracked by the phone.  changing xorg.conf from nvidia to nv allowed me to reboot.  what's should i do next to troubleshoot my boot problem ?
[14:33] <Araneidae> Trying to switch ubuntu -> kubuntu, installed kubuntu-desktop and select KDE destop manager.  Get a black themed screen with a hard disk icon, but when I click ... just a black screen, nothing else...
[14:33] <ncfi1013> would avidemux work to convert the .flac files to mp3?
[14:33] <ihor> zdorovenki bulu
[14:34] <PhilRod> JackWinter: try 'lsmod' in a konsole. Do you see nvidia anywhere in the output?
[14:34] <JackWinter> Araneidae: there are more differences between kubuntu and ubuntu than the window manager.  so installing kde won't give you a kubuntu install...
[14:34] <ced_> hi guys,  i have a question...
[14:34] <ced_> how do i use ventrilo
[14:34] <Araneidae> Ah... Well, I *thought* I was folllowing instructions ...
[14:34] <ced_> on linux?
[14:34] <Tallken> PhilRod: thanks, will try kdentwork-dbg :)
[14:35] <ced_> i'd really appreciate any help
[14:35] <Araneidae> For example: http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/9369 only suggest what I did.
[14:35] <JackWinter> PhilRod: nope, nothing starting with nv at all
[14:36] <ced_> No one knows..?
[14:36] <PhilRod> JackWinter: ok, try 'sudo modprobe nvidia', then lsmod again. What do you get?
[14:36] <PhilRod> ced_: what's ventrilo?
[14:36] <ced_> ..
[14:36] <ced_> It's a program you can use to communicate while gaming
[14:36] <Araneidae> Or: http://www.kubuntu.org/faq#kubuntu-desktop , the Kubuntu FAQ says to install kubuntu-desktop and go
[14:37] <Araneidae> (links to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE )
[14:37] <PhilRod> ced_: if it's a windows program you'll want to try running it under wine. If it's ported to linux, then either install a package for it, or install it from the site of the people who make it
[14:37] <JackWinter> Araneidae: there is pulseaudio, there are the installed programs, there seem to be some processes running under kubuntu which are missing on ubuntu.  My reccomendation would be to put your /home on a separate partition, and then a small 10gb partition for each os install.
[14:37] <Araneidae> I want to get rid of pulseaudio, it's causing me grief
[14:38] <Araneidae> Multi-boot?  Eww
[14:38] <ced_> PhilRod: I tried, but it seems it doesnt want to use the linux audio drivers.
[14:38] <courtjesterg> !x86
[14:38] <ncfi1013> ok now all i need to know is what can .flac be converted to so it will play on a cd player?
[14:38] <Araneidae> Oh well..
[14:38] <courtjesterg> ok question what the difference betwqeen x86 and i686?
[14:39]  * Araneidae gets the feeling that ubuntu is going through a period of breakage.
[14:39] <courtjesterg> is one amd and other intel?
[14:40] <Araneidae> Could somebody maybe edit https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE to say that this doesn't work (and maybe at the same time make the HelpingKubuntu link actually go somewhere)?
[14:40] <JackWinter> Araneidae: i did install ubuntu over kubuntu like that once, but the result was a mess.  imo multiboot is the best way to go.  i also made a small 2mb partition for /boot/grub.  that allows me to keep my bootmenu away from install progs.  for the rest sorry don't know enough to help you with the kde install...
[14:40] <courtjesterg> i ggot amd chips and a miccrostar main board kd7 master L board
[14:40] <Araneidae> JackWinter, well thanks for the info.
[14:41] <Araneidae> I'll think about the multi-boot.  Unfortunately I've already installed on a single partition large hd.
[14:41] <Ozzy> wtb help
[14:41] <courtjesterg> nvidia, 96.43.09, 2.6.27-7-generic, i686: installed this is the install i have but noticed nvidia also has the x86 download
[14:41] <JackWinter> PhilRod: here is the output of the first command: FATAL: Could not open '/lib/modules/2.6.24-16-rt/updates/dkms/nvidia.ko': No such file or directory
[14:42] <Ozzy> how do I disable stickykeyzzzzz
[14:42] <lovre> how do i change the label of my USB stick?
[14:42] <JackWinter> PhilRod: so i guess there is no driver installed anymore ?  should i reinstall it ?
[14:42] <PhilRod> JackWinter: yup, that sounds right
[14:43] <ced_> lovre: select the USB stick and right click-> properties
[14:43] <courtjesterg> screen wheres my mothernoard hand book
[14:43] <JackWinter> PhilRod: ok, i'll try envyng.  i have a backup xorg.conf now.  bb l8er.  thanks
[14:43] <ced_> lovre: there you can change stuff
[14:43] <ncfi1013> ok now all i need to know is what can .flac be converted to so it will play on a cd player?
[14:43] <PhilRod> yw JackWinter
[14:43] <lovre> ced_:  ok thank you
[14:44] <zgmf-x20a> hey anyone out there using the asus f3sv series by any chance? trying to get the webcam up and running
[14:44] <ced_> Hey, does anyone know how to disable sticky keys?
[14:44] <ced_> No one knows howto disable sticky keys?
[14:45] <ncfi1013>  ced,disable sticky keys in system settings under the keyboard picture
[14:45] <ced_> thanks ncfi1013
[14:45] <ncfi1013> welcome
[14:45] <lovre> ced_: when i try it, it says access denied... ?
[14:45] <courtjesterg> hardware manager won't let me activate my driver i had envyinstalled uninstaled it through the package manager
[14:46] <ced_> lovre: is it mounted with proper access rights?
[14:46] <courtjesterg> !envy
[14:47] <ced_> ncfi1013: it seems it still isnt working.
[14:47] <courtjesterg> !remove envy
[14:47] <lovre> ced_: i dont know, i didnt configure anything, it automonted. I can copy stuff from it, but i cant change anything
[14:47] <ncfi1013> ced im sorry under accessability>modifier keys tab
[14:47] <ced_> lovre: can you copy stuff TO it?
[14:47] <ncfi1013> still in system settings. remeber to click apply>ok
[14:47] <ced_> ncfi1013: ill try, thanks
[14:48] <lovre> ced_: yes, i can
[14:48] <ced_> lovre: hm. well, i have to be honest, i don't know then..
[14:49] <lovre> ced_: ok, thank you for your time
[14:49] <ced_> lovre: no probleme
[14:50] <ncfi1013> ced did it work?
[14:51] <ced_> ncfi1013: yes, thanks
[14:52] <ncfi1013> good welcome
[14:52] <ncfi1013> would i have to use avidemux to convert .flac files to mp3 format?
[14:52] <Araneidae> Is there a bug database for Kubuntu?  I still haven't found it
[14:56] <JackWinter> PhilRod: thanks for the help.  got my system back and running.
[15:00] <KR-data> can someone give me a pastebin of an menu.lst from grub with xp and kubuntu
[15:02] <supertones> so all packages get compile for arm now too? launchpad must have a nice server farm of compile machines
[15:03] <supertones> oh nm about the now i see april 2009
[15:04] <alexei_> hi, I switched to Gnome on kubuntu 8.10 and get both gnome- and kdenetworkmanager startin on login. How do I disable the latter?
[15:11] <courtjesterg> !rm
[15:14] <slow-motion> hi
[15:17] <a> hi, how do i create a shortcut?
[15:19] <weedar> It would seem that hotmail doesn't work under Linux anymore - is anyone able to reply to or compose emails with firefox/opera/whatever in linux?
[15:19] <LjL> !shortcuts | a
[15:20] <a> not "keyboard" shortcuts, file shortcuts, LjL
[15:20] <LjL> a: no such thing in Linux.
[15:20] <LjL> a: you might want to create symlinks, perhaps.
[15:20] <LjL> that can be done using the "ln" command with the "-s" option
[15:21] <a> ljl, i can make shortcuts from stuff in the applications menu so obviously  there is such a thing
[15:21] <ncfi1013> would i have to use avidemux to convert .flac files to mp3 format?
[15:22] <LjL> a: "shortcut" is a Windows term, it simply doesn't make any sense in KDE. perhaps if you actually state what you intend to achieve, i can tell you what's the way.
[15:23] <lovre> how do i make a script "run in terminal" ? i dont see that option in kubuntu 8.10
[15:23] <LjL> a: although i'm on KDE 3, so if you're on 4, things might be quite different
[15:24] <a> ljl, i have gnome
[15:24] <LjL> a: then why the heck are you asking here? and for that matter, asking both here and in #ubuntu concurrently
[15:24] <LjL> way to make people waste their time
[15:24] <courtjesterg> """kdesudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[15:24] <courtjesterg> much better than normal sudo nano
[15:24] <a> you ask here and get no answer, you ask somewhere else....?
[15:25] <LjL> a: if you aren't running KDE you have no business asking here to begin with
[15:25] <a> yeah thanks
[15:25] <courtjesterg> ccan even access with root permissions and delete files that way
[15:25] <a> what are you looking at ubuntu for if you don't know anything about it?
[15:26] <courtjesterg> when you go to save aas just right click and delete stuff in root before you save
[15:26] <LjL> !offtopic | a
[15:26] <lovre> when i run a script from a konsole, it works, when i run it with Run (ALT+F2), it seems to start, but i dont see it. It appears in task manager, but i dont see the gui. Splash screen apears and dissapears. (the application is matlab)
[15:27] <technikk> please stop write stupid things....!
[15:27] <technikk> :/
[15:27] <ncfi1013> isn't gnome part of the linus/kde universe
[15:27] <a> ubottu, what is your purose?
[15:27] <LjL> !bot | a
[15:28] <courtjesterg> no i am only a bot, please don't think your the only bot =)
[15:28] <courtjesterg> !bot | b
[15:28] <medol> I need help. I have a problem with Kubuntu 8.04. My computer, after few minutes/hours, stacks. I can do nothing with it
[15:28] <bazhang> a please stop now
[15:29] <courtjesterg> they do have 8.10 you know
[15:29] <ncfi1013> would i have to use avidemux to convert .flac files to mp3 format?
[15:29] <LjL> !botabuse > courtjesterg    (courtjesterg, see the private message from ubottu)
[15:29] <courtjesterg> have you tryed the grub menu  wwhen booting and do recoverry?
[15:29] <LjL> ncfi1013: not necessarily, you can use "flac" piped to any mp3 encoder
[15:30] <LjL> ncfi1013: also, you could use soundkonverter if you like GUIs
[15:30] <ncfi1013> download soundkonverter thru adept?
[15:35] <Ozzy> any ideas how to extend my taskpanel onto my second screen?
[15:46] <Novalgina2Fast> hi guys,why when i see a real media file the audio is before of the video
[15:46] <Novalgina2Fast> so someone talk in the audio and the in the video open the mouth XD
[15:46] <Novalgina2Fast> and then*
[15:49] <Kovert> I have 2 disk both set up on same computer 1 XP the other intrepid. I want to leave XP as sda1 and add intrepid as sdb1 as well as putting grub on sda is there a guide to this and how do I boot back into intrepid (with the origional seyp cd?)
[15:49] <BluesKaj> still tring to figure how to get the screensaver to link to my pictures folder
[15:50] <BluesKaj> trying that is
[15:50] <Kovert> well setup cd
[15:50] <BluesKaj> !grub | Kovert
[15:50] <Kovert> !grub
[15:51] <Kovert> BluesKaj: thanks!
[15:52] <BluesKaj> Kovert:  NP :)
[15:52] <Guest98963> Hey guys...I seem to be running into some occasional problems with assorted apps text disappearing.
[15:53] <Guest98963> for example the Konversation chat program I am using lists the users to the right then disappears until it refereshes.  Any ideas?  I also saw this with the KNetwork Manager, which is leading me to think it could be related to my KDE install of some type.
[15:55] <draik> !nvidia
[15:59] <ThomasHC> hullo
[16:00] <Novalgina2Fast> !ops
[16:00] <LjL> Novalgina2Fast: yes?
[16:00] <draik> glxinfo gives me a segfault and I cannot run glxgears. How can I get it to work with my nVidia 96 driver?
[16:00] <Novalgina2Fast> sorry for the ops.....i don't know but so,i have a problem with the file real media(.rm)
[16:01] <heather> woot its a great day
[16:03] <dthacker> yes it is
[16:04] <courtjesterg> i found the thread for my geforce 3 96 driver with my font bug
[16:04] <courtjesterg> http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=122178
[16:04] <rustygates213> well i think my day is going to be spent looking for the kids sippy cups
[16:05] <serenity> hi there
[16:05] <BluesKaj> i have an hr before my yardwork project deadline (self imposed) , but I would like to know how ppl are configuring the screensaver on Intrepid ...can't seem to find a way to make it work .
[16:06] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[16:06] <serenity> is there a repo for the new nvidia 180.06 driver?
[16:06] <serenity> ppa or such?
[16:06] <ActionParsnip> is it possible to change the colour of the bottom plasma bar in kubintu?
[16:07] <Illusioneer> kde
[16:10] <courtjesterg> problem has been fixed system appearance system settings enabled antiasing use full i don't hace excluded checked
[16:10] <courtjesterg> geforece 3 http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=122178
[16:10] <courtjesterg> my dpi are at 96
[16:11] <courtjesterg> use the rgb default
[16:12] <courtjesterg> you all should see i am using konquoer as my research bookmarks all this stuff i got bookmarks omg lol
[16:12] <BluesKaj> !screensaver
[16:13] <draik> !glx
[16:14] <courtjesterg> what about glc is that 177 and 173?
[16:14] <courtjesterg> glx
[16:20] <draik> I'm using nVidia version 96 and I do not have glx
[16:25] <Guest76784> hola
[16:27] <thomas__> hi
[16:28] <courtjesterg> http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=1838646#post1838646
[16:28] <courtjesterg> can anyone confirm the section about the wine font part
[16:28] <courtjesterg> in the above link and i not really understanding where to put this file
[16:28] <courtjesterg> what is fx
[16:29] <courtjesterg> also the url they used
[16:29] <courtjesterg> system url
[16:29] <courtjesterg> !wine
[16:30] <thomas__> was ist los
[16:31] <BluesKaj> !de | thomas__
[16:32] <thomas__> was genau
[16:32] <rustygates213> so you have never used wine before?
[16:33] <rustygates213> hum
[16:33] <rustygates213> well its pretty self expl
[16:33] <rustygates213> anyway found all the sippy cups
[16:34] <|DarkSmoke|> guys
[16:34] <|DarkSmoke|> where did kbluetooth end up?
[16:34] <|DarkSmoke|> i can't find it in kubuntu
[16:34] <|DarkSmoke|> i used to use in hardy :/
[16:35] <JontheEchidna> it's kbluetooth4, but it doesn't work with the latest bluetooth so it doesn't really matter anyway
[16:36] <Leander256> read the release notes of intrepid, it's not working because of a last minute bug
[16:36] <draik> How do I get GLX running with nVidia version 96
[16:36] <JontheEchidna> oh, maybe they removed it since it doesn't work
[16:37] <|DarkSmoke|> and it will not work until the next release of kubuntu? :s
[16:38] <|DarkSmoke|> wait
[16:38] <|DarkSmoke|> it is installed
[16:38] <|DarkSmoke|> but i don't have a shortcut in my kmenu
[16:38] <|DarkSmoke|> ..
[16:38] <rustygates213> what is avahi?
[16:39] <rustygates213> and what would make it take over a network card
[16:40] <draik> rustygates213: Avahi is a system which facilitates service discovery on a local network.
[16:40] <Leander256> |DarkSmoke|: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/IntrepidReleaseNotes#Kubuntu%20Bluetooth%20support
[16:42] <rustygates213> its like the plug and play of networks
[16:42] <rustygates213> but ...
[16:42] <retro_> nVidia version 96 is in some non standart repo
[16:42] <rustygates213> i have had nothing but proublems with it
[16:43] <retro_> nVidia 96 is in interpid-backports
[16:43] <rustygates213> network works for about 3 months then avahi takes over
[16:44] <rustygates213> so my wireless is wlan0
[16:45] <rustygates213> then adds wlan0-avahi
[16:45] <courtjesterg> courtjesterg@courtjesterg-desktop:~$ sudo regedit settings.txt
[16:45] <courtjesterg> wine: /home/courtjesterg/.wine is not owned by you
[16:45] <courtjesterg> courtjesterg@courtjesterg-desktop:~$
[16:45] <courtjesterg> i placed a text file in wine and ran it as this url said
[16:46] <courtjesterg> http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=1838646#post1838646
[16:46] <alexei> hi, so did anybody manage to get subpixel rendering in QT apps together with slight hinting (only horizontal lines) comparable to that in GTK  apps?
[16:46] <courtjesterg> is that correct output i wonder or should i of saved it else where besides wine
[16:46] <alexei> see http://labs.trolltech.com/blogs/2008/09/01/subpixel-antialiasing-on-x11/ for problem description
[16:46] <courtjesterg> i am using subpixel
[16:47] <courtjesterg> i believe
[16:47] <alexei> courtjesterg:  start 'kmag' to see it
[16:47] <|DarkSmoke|> so
[16:47] <|DarkSmoke|> if i compile an older version of bluez
[16:47] <|DarkSmoke|> would  kdebluetooth4 support it?
[16:48] <courtjesterg> start kmag in nano?
[16:48] <GillesMM> hello I have ubuntu ad 6 pc on window EOM Do I need to have XP PRO for the 6 PC if I install SMB on my kubuntu ?
[16:49] <courtjesterg> kmag is fine
[16:49] <alexei> in command line. Are you using 8.10?
[16:49] <courtjesterg> yes
[16:49] <courtjesterg> i am using interpid
[16:49] <newton> hi
[16:50] <courtjesterg> 8.10 96 graphics driver just fix the font bug using antialases and subpixles
[16:50] <courtjesterg> trying to fix the wine problem till they come out with a fix
[16:50] <alexei> courtjesterg:  when you zoom on letters in kmag are the borders colored?
[16:50] <courtjesterg> as descripted in the url up above
[16:51] <courtjesterg> --color nah it show just as it would onmy screen
[16:52] <draik> courtjesterg: You're using nVidia version 96, right? If so, do you have GLX working?
[16:52] <courtjesterg> i should use kmag at night in the dark or stare at porn cleavge j/k
[16:52] <laureline> hi, I need help ! I installed Kubuntu on my laptop, but wifi doesnt work anymore... how should I do to bring it back ?
[16:53] <courtjesterg> i have no use for kmage really unless it was for viewing work done in gimp or something
[16:53] <courtjesterg> !wifi
[16:54] <courtjesterg> http://www.kubuntuforums.net/ also check these forums with search
[16:55] <courtjesterg> !xconfig
[16:55] <TWTNW> hello!
[16:55] <TWTNW> can somebody help me?
[16:55] <lokai> dont ask to ask, just ask
[16:56] <TWTNW> how do I install xgl?
[16:56] <lokai> !xgl
[16:57] <lokai> sorry, I don't know what that is =(
[16:58] <rustygates213> !avahi
[16:58] <rustygates213> lol
[17:00] <rustygates213> ok im bored
[17:00] <rustygates213> welcome bill
[17:01] <rustygates213> so has anyone else had a problem with avahi?
[17:15] <ebresie> hey guys...I just "updates" my Ubunut to kubuntu, and now a number of my KDE applications are acting funny.  For example, when I try to use Konversation, I get the system icon which when I click on it, shows the menu items briefly, then they disappear with only the icons showing up.  Anyone known how to get around this?
[17:18] <TWTNW> I have to go! thanks and bye!
[17:20] <Serva> Hi. I am right now using Windows Vista and I want to install Kubuntu Hardy Heron. I am trying to burn a bootable iso image but don't know how to do that. Can someone please tell me the software name that I could use to burn the bootable iso
[17:20] <Serva> The iso I burnt on the cd, using power iso, isn't bootable
[17:21] <draik> Serva: You should ask someone using Windows... type this:  /j #windows
[17:21] <rustygates213> there are several apt to burn a iso image
[17:21] <oscar> you can use nero
[17:21] <oscar> or poweriso
[17:21] <rustygates213> nero works
[17:22] <oscar> or alcohol 120%
[17:22] <rustygates213> i would just use what ya got
[17:22] <draik> I have used Nero for years.
[17:22] <rustygates213> ya me too
[17:22] <oscar> if you dont have any of those programs you can make a bootable flash driver
[17:22] <draik> Alcohol 120% for other purposes; mainly mounting.
[17:22] <oscar> drive*
[17:23] <rustygates213> make sure that your down load is good
[17:23] <draik> oscar: Too much work. Probably be better off with a free app from download.com
[17:23] <rustygates213> and dont burn it as files
[17:23] <rustygates213> nero
[17:23] <draik> Serva: If you need an ISO burning app, go to download.com and search for "burn ISO"
[17:24] <rustygates213> just go to nero site
[17:24] <rustygates213> im sure they got free trials
[17:24] <oscar> http://cdburnerxp.se/
[17:24] <oscar> cdburnerxp is a free application to burn iso images
[17:25] <rustygates213> or send me 1 dollar and ill burn ya a copy
[17:28] <Dr_willis> theres a dozen 'free' iso burner tools for windows..
[17:28] <thehammer> hi, if I start another Xserver sound isn't working from the second one
[17:29] <Dr_willis> thehammer,  the user logged into the fist one may have the sound card 'locked' since they are accessing it..
[17:29] <thehammer> alsa isn't even find a sound card
[17:30] <ralpho> Download the ISORecorder Power toy
[17:30] <thehammer> second Xserver: thehammer@thehammer:~$ aplay -l
[17:30] <thehammer> aplay: device_list:215: keine Soundkarten gefunden...
[17:37] <Ramblurr> has anyone had problems with booting the new kernels in 8.10?
[17:39] <amin> compiz
[17:41] <courtjesterg> got fixed they need to write better i  have the understanding of a lawyer over here got to be exact and direct to persion
[17:51] <joe-coder> I have a FAT32 formatted flash drive
[17:51] <joe-coder> when i copy test1.txt, Test2.txt and TEST3.TXT, TEST3.TXT becomes test3.txt, but the others come through fine
[17:51] <joe-coder> this breaks my sync programs.
[17:52] <draik> Does anyone have GLX working on nVidia version 96?
[17:53] <Ricardo_> how can I get the last version of AMAROK?
[17:53] <Ricardo_> :d
[17:54] <Ricardo_> :P
[17:54] <Dr_willis> source or check ppa repos, or perhaps backports repo
[17:54] <Dr_willis> !ppa
[17:55] <Dr_willis> joe-coder,  you can mount fat filesystems with different options to manage the filename/case changes
[17:58] <joe-coder> Dr_willis: my flash drive doesn't have an entry in /etc/fstab but seems to be handled automatically.  how do i change this?
[18:01]  * thomas[away] is away: Gone away for now
[18:01]  * thomas__ is back.
[18:02] <draik> How can I configure my system tray to put the order of the apps per desktop, not order by which they were opened?
[18:03] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[18:03] <maxbaldwin> draik: no idea
[18:03] <maxbaldwin> hey ActionParsnip
[18:03] <jhutchins> draik: As far as I know it doesn't do that.
[18:04] <draik> jhutchins: Ok. At least it's good to know I'm not completely blind or oblivious to settings.
[18:04] <maxbaldwin> draik: maybe you can move them around?
[18:05] <draik> maxbaldwin: Nope. Tried that already.
[18:05] <draik> OxDeadC0de: HEY!
[18:06] <OxDeadC0de> hi draik, long time ^^
[18:06] <draik> 2-3 weeks, IIRC
[18:08] <deamoon> hi there
[18:08] <joe-coder> it would be nice if you could rearrange the order of tasks on the taskbar
[18:08] <deamoon> do any 1 uses VirtualBox ose?
[18:08] <joe-coder> nope
[18:08] <deamoon> i got problem with it
[18:09] <deamoon> or crossfire
[18:10] <ActionParsnip> deamoon: i used to use it
[18:10] <deamoon> which 1?
[18:10] <ActionParsnip> deamoon: vbox
[18:10] <deamoon> ok
[18:10] <ActionParsnip> deamoon: wassup?
[18:11] <deamoon> could u help me cos im geting error mesedge and have no clue whats wrong
[18:11] <ActionParsnip> ok can you pastebin the command and error
[18:12] <Koordin> can i restore a file that i've deleted today several hours from now ? if yes how can i do so ?
[18:12] <Ricardo_> how can i install AMAROK 2?
[18:13] <ActionParsnip> Ricardo_: only way ive seen is compile source
[18:14] <deamoon> http://pastebin.ca/1257829
[18:17] <judgen> how do i kill the power saving of the screen? It does get a little annoying when watching a movie.
[18:19] <ActionParsnip>  Ricardo_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=672858
[18:19] <judgen> !power management
[18:20] <ActionParsnip> judgen: head to screen saver / power settings and check in there. I dont use gnome but i can point you in the right area
[18:21]  * thomas[away] is away: Gone away for now
[18:21] <judgen> ActionParsnip: i dont use gnome either.
[18:22] <ActionParsnip> judgen: sorry im in bot rooms
[18:22] <ActionParsnip> judgen: let me click around
[18:24] <ptl> !exclamation mark
[18:27] <ActionParsnip> judgen: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=706502
[18:28] <Ricardo_> !exclamation mark
[18:39]  * thomas__ is back.
[18:39] <marcelo> hi
[18:49]  * thomas[away] is away: Gone away for now
[18:51] <DarkriftX> if i wanted to try out gnome a bit what  would be the parent package i would install?
[18:51] <DarkriftX> !gnome
[18:51] <DarkriftX> lol, nevermind
[18:51] <DarkriftX> almost forgot about ubuttu
[18:52] <DarkriftX> bot*
[18:52] <DarkriftX> hrmmm, i dont have a dm, would it be bad to install gnome? i use startx to start x, how will i choose which wm i want?
[18:53] <ncfi1013> would i have to use avidemux to convert .flac files to mp3 format?
[18:53] <coreymon77> DarkriftX: and why dont you have a dm exactly?
[18:53] <DarkriftX> kde4 killed it :(
[18:53] <DarkriftX> bigg long mess, but it doesnt work
[18:53] <DarkriftX> even after 3 reinstalls
[18:54] <coreymon77> ouch
[18:54] <DarkriftX> yeah...
[18:55] <DarkriftX> nobody in here could help me fix it, so im fine with command line login and startx
[18:55] <DarkriftX> just dont know how ill tell it to use gnome like that
[18:55] <DarkriftX> unless i edit my xorg
[18:55] <DarkriftX> .co
[18:55] <DarkriftX> damn keyboard
[18:55] <coreymon77> well, installing ubuntu-desktop would actually install gdm
[18:55] <DarkriftX> hrmmm, gdm might work
[18:56] <DarkriftX> kde should be fine though right?
[19:00] <joseph> !minimalist
[19:06] <courtjesterg>  after you have wine installed and say installed a game now do i need to install microsoft direct x and run it off of wine or is that what x.org is for?
[19:07] <courtjesterg> i have mastered my os
[19:07] <courtjesterg> =)
[19:10] <Coggz> hi all, does anyone here use Wings3D
[19:12] <maximiliano> hi
[19:12] <Coggz> hi
[19:13] <Coggz> hi all, does anyone here use Wings3D
[19:20] <sigp239> How do I add real video codec so that gstreamer can play it?
[19:22] <rmartim> good afternoon :D
[19:23] <faemir> anyone know why my kde programs won't retain size, only position.
[19:23] <faemir> ? *
[19:24] <jussi01> sigp239: try installing kubuntu-restricted-extras
[19:25]  * thomas__ is back.
[19:26] <PSiL0> how to bring up the kde menu using the meta key????
[19:26] <DarkriftX> ahhhh! startx now starts in gnome by default, how do i make gdm start so i can choose?
[19:28] <DarkriftX> if it werent so ugly i might like this
[19:31] <PSiL0> !shortcut
[19:31] <PSiL0> !keyboard
[19:31] <PSiL0> damn, I knew that
[19:33] <ncfi1013> would i have to use avidemux to convert .flac files to mp3 format?
[19:33] <faemir> ncfi1013: use ffmpeg
[19:34] <cbarcley> I've just upgraded to kubuntu 8.10 and it's not working anymore
[19:34] <cbarcley> Can anyone help my?
[19:39] <jussi01> !elaborate | cbarcley
[19:41] <ncfi1013> faemir what is ffmpeg
[19:41] <genii> !info ffmpeg
[19:41] <cbarcley> I had version 8.04 Hardy installed and upgraded to version 8.10
[19:41] <cbarcley> the last step was to reboot.
[19:42] <jussi01> cbarcley: so what doesnt work?
[19:42] <jussi01> what does it do now when you reboot?
[19:42] <cbarcley> how i only see the cli login
[19:42] <cbarcley> login does work and
[19:43] <jussi01> cbarcley: please try the following command: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[19:43] <jussi01> cbarcley: follow the dialouges then reboot
[19:44] <cbarcley> ok, I'll try, tanks
[19:44] <cbarcley> thanks
[19:48] <cbarcley> cli only
[19:57] <lalartu> hi all
[19:57] <serenity> is it possible to install kde-nightly next to my normal kde4 installation?
[19:58] <lalartu> anybody can help me? i installed kubuntu 8.04 and i can't change keyboard layout
[19:59] <eamon> hey is there a place where i can download msn for linux
[19:59] <lyhana8> Hi, i'm trying to get openjdk working with firefox, what is the plugins to install ?
[19:59] <Tm_T> eamon: Kopete you mean? it's there already
[20:00] <lalartu> russkie est'??
[20:00] <eamon> where abouts
[20:00] <Tm_T> eamon: Kopete is in your application menu
[20:00] <genii> !ru | lalartu
[20:00] <eamon> im using ubuntu
[20:01] <eamon> nah dosnt seem to be there
[20:01] <lyhana8> Look for pidgim.
[20:01] <Tm_T> !msn | e
[20:01] <Tm_T> gah
[20:01] <Tm_T> eamon: see what ubottu said
[20:02] <lyhana8> Eamon:  pidgin.
[20:02] <eamon> oh yeah iv got pidgin its pretty handy
[20:02]  * genii hands Tm_T a pint of coffee
[20:02] <eamon> but cant use web cam
[20:02] <lyhana8> Not yet supported...
[20:03] <lyhana8> You can try to install kopete or amsn.
[20:03] <eamon> where do i get those from
[20:04] <lyhana8> Look for package manager on the 'system' menu.
[20:04] <lyhana8> Is it your first time on linux ?
[20:05] <eamon> nah but havnt been using it long.  iv only just got my linux box working after some-one spilt bong water down the side of it.  and iv just sold my win pc so this linux box is my only computer now
[20:05] <lyhana8> Maybe you should ask on the #ubuntu channel instead of the #Kubuntu.
[20:05] <eamon> oh it kubuntu different from unbuntu
[20:06] <lyhana8> Do you find the 'package manager' it's called synaptic.
[20:06] <lyhana8> A bit yeah, the global frontend is different, but the underground system is similar, you can mix Gnome apps (Ubuntu) and KDE apps (Kubuntu)
[20:09] <DaSkreech> oscar: how
[20:15] <DaSkreech> oscar: you ?
[20:15] <oscar> good
[20:16] <oscar> thinking about trying to fix my audio in kde
[20:16] <DaSkreech> Me too
[20:16] <DaSkreech> can't be bothered
[20:17] <DaSkreech> Ibex messed it all up :(
[20:17] <oscar> :(
[20:19] <DaSkreech> I can hear but it's so low my bone marrow doesn't cringe anymore when I start to play music
[20:19] <DaSkreech> and I have to turn the sound down to hear anything in videos
[20:21] <e24s>  /msg nickserv identify e24s
[20:21] <e24s>  /msg nickserv identify e24s
[20:21] <genii> e24s: I'd recommend changing your password immediately now. Especially to something that is not also your nick
[20:22] <oscar> hahahaha
[20:23] <e24s> kto mi pomoze  postawic serwer www kubuntu
[20:23] <e24s> prosze o pomoc
[20:24] <DaSkreech> !register
[20:24] <Sokal-EC> any web developers in here?
[20:24] <DaSkreech> !jp
[20:24] <DaSkreech> !ask | Sokal-EC
[20:25] <e24s> !register
[20:25] <Sokal-EC> sheesh
[20:25] <DaSkreech> Sokal-EC: Simply ask your question
[20:25] <Sokal-EC> what is the best flash editor for kubuntu with a gui?
[20:26] <DaSkreech> Adobe Flash I would wager
[20:26] <e24s> !register
[20:27] <Sokal-EC> what is the best pdf editor?
[20:27] <DaSkreech> e24s: What language ?
[20:27] <DaSkreech> Sokal-EC: pdfedit
[20:27] <e24s> poland
[20:27] <DaSkreech> Though really anything works since you can print anything to a PDF
[20:27] <DaSkreech> !info cups-pdf
[20:27] <DaSkreech> !polish
[20:28] <DaSkreech> e24s: If that helps ^^
[20:28] <Sokal-EC> ok if i use apt-get to install something and i want to remove it how do i go about that?
[20:28] <DaSkreech> apt-get remove package
[20:28] <DaSkreech> It will remove the binaries and leave the settings alone
[20:28] <Sokal-EC> ahh
[20:28] <Sokal-EC> seems logical lol
[20:28] <DaSkreech> If you reinstall the package you will get back the same settings that you had before
[20:28] <genii> !pl | e24s
[20:29] <DaSkreech> so you can feasibly remove a bunch of stuff for space and reinstall later and pick up where you left off
[20:30] <e24s> tak
[20:31] <Sokal-EC> is there a apt-get for adobe flash?
[20:31] <Dr_willis> !flash
[20:31] <genii> !info flashplugin-nonfree
[20:31] <Dr_willis> Sokal-EC,  install the kubuntu-restricted-extras package to get flash and java and other bts you proberly want
[20:31] <DaSkreech> Sokal-EC: No
[20:32] <DaSkreech> Dr_willis: He's talking about a flash editor
[20:32] <DaSkreech> !gnash
[20:32] <DaSkreech> Assuming that Sokal-EC is a he
[20:32] <genii> Sadly, Gnash .. um ... sucks might be the right word
[20:32] <Dr_willis> he is? wasent very clear on it.. :P)
[20:32] <Dr_willis> Most flash sites dont work with the Browser in my Wii any more. :(
[20:33] <Dr_willis> I find flash... annoying..
[20:33] <DaSkreech> genii: Yes it does but have you seen the odds they have gone up against?
[20:33]  * thomas[away] is away: Gone away for now
[20:33] <DaSkreech> Dr_willis: Don't worry Next firmware update will have a new browser for you to buy
[20:34] <DaSkreech> !away | thomas[away]
[20:34] <Sokal-EC> lol yeah im a he
[20:36] <e24s> jaki jest kanal polski prosze o pomoc
[20:38] <genii> e24s: Ten język od język angielski tylko tutaj
[20:38] <e24s> oki jaki polski kanał
[20:39] <genii> e24s: /j #ubuntu-pl
[20:39] <e24s> oki n]
[20:42] <TimS> My iPod is connected to my PC, but I am not sure which node its connected to, how can I find out?
[20:42] <starenka> darn. same problem again. i uninstalled some kde4 libs and now i don't have GTK styles config tingies in my kcontrol (kde3). anyone know how to ge those back?
[20:49] <vlt> TimS: lsusb
[20:49] <TimS> Bus 002 Device 011: ID 05ac:1261 Apple, Inc. iPod Classic
[20:51] <TimS> I need to know which /dev/ its on so I can eject it
[20:51] <vlt> TimS: Aah, ok. What does `mount` say?
[20:51] <levidos> how can i set different wallpapers for my workspaces?  i'm using compiz
[20:53] <TimS> vit: Its not mounted
[20:53] <vlt> TimS: When it's not mounted you can just remove it.
[20:54] <DaSkreech> genii: what was that?
[20:54] <TimS> vit: if it was on /dev/sdc1 and you do eject /dev/sda1 the iPod displays "OK to disconnect", At the moment, it displays eject before disconnect
[20:55] <TimS> iPod wants to be ejected :/
[20:55] <Quark> I preffer KDE4 to KDE3.5
[20:55] <DarkSmoke> Quark: its still has to mature dough
[20:55] <DaSkreech> Quark: Hooray for you
[20:55] <vlt> TimS: What happens when removing it?
[20:55] <DarkSmoke> to become as good as kde3.5
[20:55] <genii> DaSkreech: I told him in Polish "English only here" then he wanted to know how to get to the polish channel
[20:55] <TimS> vit: Umm, not sure :p
[20:56] <TimS> Lets find out
[20:56] <DaSkreech> genii: Ah what was the question he asked? Been asking it for a while
[20:56] <Quark> It's nice and flash, but not slow and crashy like Vista.
[20:56] <Quark> *flashy
[20:56] <TimS> It displays the message "OK to disconnect"
[20:56] <TimS> Which is odd, as it has been
[20:56] <Quark> Hey, why did they hire Windows Vista to be a prison guard?
[20:57] <Quark> Because it always locks up! Ha... ha.....
[20:57]  * DaSkreech turns off humour bot 3000
[20:57] <TimS> ha
[20:58] <jabrroa> sup
[20:58] <Quark> gas prices.
[20:59] <PSiL0> does anyone know how to bring up the kde menu using the meta key????
[20:59] <TimS> (they are going down)
[20:59] <genii> DaSkreech: Basically "who do I talk to on web about sales of ubuntu server"
[20:59] <jabrroa> nope they have dropp two bucks :)
[20:59] <Quark> Well, the joke worked a while ago.
[20:59] <DaSkreech> genii: Ah yeah that's a good question. I wonder how many languags they speak at Canonical
[20:59] <jabrroa> lol yes it did'
[20:59] <TimS> Your weight?
[21:00] <DaSkreech> PSiL0: Edit your plasmarc
[21:00] <jabrroa> nope :)\
[21:00] <TimS> People say that a lot to me
[21:00] <Quark> Haven't heard that one.
[21:01] <martin101> Does anyone find the kubuntu really buggy and slow?
[21:02] <Quark> martin101: no. not if you don't install stuff you don't need
[21:02] <Quark> and keep everyting 'clean'
[21:02] <vlt> PSiL0: Does Alt+F1 still work in KDE4?
[21:03] <PSiL0> vlt: thanks
[21:03] <jabrroa> lol
[21:03] <PSiL0> vlt: how can I map it to the meta though?
[21:03] <martin101> I meant to a clean install, compared to mandriva's KDE's implementation, kubuntu seems slow and the graphics seems buggy
[21:03] <DaSkreech> martin101: It can be. Slowness is normally linked to a bad driver
[21:04] <starenka> which package let you set gtk styles in kcontrol?
[21:05] <martin101> I attempted to use it a laptop with intergrated graphics, as I love ubuntu but prefer KDE but I can't stand the instability problems with kubuntu, which is a shame!
[21:05] <DaSkreech> martin101: Possibly kubuntu is the first on the release cycle to put out KDE so They may get things out first but other distros have more time to polish
[21:05] <DaSkreech> martin101: Which video card?
[21:06] <martin101> Mobile GM965/GL960
[21:07] <PSiL0> ahhh...
[21:07] <PSiL0> under system settings->keyboard->keyb shortcuts->plasma workspace
[21:08] <DaSkreech> martin101: Hmm with GMA drivers?
[21:08] <martin101> yep, the standard ones what come with the OS
[21:09] <martin101> also madriva makes firefox look acceptable and well integrated compared to kubuntu
[21:10] <jabrroa> i have a sound problem when someone can help
[21:11] <martin101> I really like KDE4 and ubuntu/debian as a OS, and so I would love to use Kubuntu, but as stated above, it really slow and seems clunky!
[21:12] <martin101> Does anyone know of another debian based KDE4 distro?
[21:14] <woden1> Is KDE better than GNOME?
[21:15] <genii> !best | woden1
[21:15] <Quark> woden1: for me, yes
[21:15] <woden1> Quark:  I have not used KDE in maybe 7 or so years.
[21:16] <woden1> I was thinking of trying it out
[21:16]  * ThomasHC is back.
[21:16] <jabrroa> hehe
[21:16] <jabrroa> backtrack and elive
[21:16] <Tm_T> ThomasHC: please don't use publickaway
[21:16] <woden1> How do I resize my Windows partition to make it smaller so I can install Kubuntu?
[21:16] <Tm_T> woden1: installer can handle that
[21:16] <ThomasHC> Tm_T: what?
[21:17] <woden1> So should I just download Kubuntu 8.10?
[21:17] <Tm_T> !away | ThomasHC
[21:17] <ThomasHC> sorry, konversation does it auto
[21:17] <martin101> I really like KDE
[21:18] <woden1> What do you like about it martin?
[21:18] <Quark> ThomasHC: no it doesn't...
[21:18] <Quark> Did it?
[21:18] <ThomasHC> actually it does
[21:19] <martin101> it feels more intuitive than gnome,
[21:19] <Tm_T> ThomasHC: shouldn't by default
[21:19] <ThomasHC> mine did, ahh well
[21:19] <Tm_T> ThomasHC: anyway, please change
[21:19] <woden1> Why is kubuntu i386, instead of i686?
[21:19] <ThomasHC> will do
[21:19] <Tm_T> ThomasHC: thanks
[21:19] <ThomasHC> woden1: we all ask oursleves that...
[21:19] <dethklok> hi could anyone help me? I have been trying to assembly and run some nasm assembly code, but I have a 64 bit version of ubuntu. When I try run it tell me it is i386 code. Is there a way to change to mode to 32 bit in ubunutu or do I need to reinstall 32 bit ubuntu?
[21:19] <dethklok> its nasm btw
[21:19] <ThomasHC> no problem Tm_T
[21:20] <woden1> ThomasHC: So what is the answer?
[21:20] <ThomasHC> To maintain support for old hardware
[21:20] <ThomasHC> which, that old hardware doesnt run Ubuntu anyway, so......
[21:20] <Tm_T> false, we don't support i386 anymore IIRC
[21:20] <BluesKaj> dethklok, insatll an app called ia32 with apt or adept
[21:20] <dethklok> ok what is that?
[21:20] <Tm_T> it just remains in the name
[21:21] <dethklok> so just install "sudo apt-get ia32"?
[21:21] <BluesKaj> dethklok, it enables 32bit apps on 64 bit machines
[21:22] <woden1> Tm_T: so Why am I downloading something called kubuntu-8.10-desktop-i386.iso
[21:22] <BluesKaj> dethklok, yup
[21:22] <woden1> Instead of kubuntu-8.10-desktop-i686.iso
[21:22] <Tm_T> woden1: that's 32-bit image
[21:22] <dethklok> ok thanks I will try it
[21:22] <woden1> Tm_T:  Yea, so why not 32-bit i686?
[21:22] <ThomasHC> Tm_T: but i686 is a feature in proc that are somewhat modern(oh, last 8 years maybe, or more)
[21:22] <dethklok> for some reason I have been banned from the regular gnome ubuntu chat?
[21:22] <ThomasHC> i686 is 32 bit
[21:23] <Tm_T> ThomasHC: I know, it's actually is that, just named as i386 or so
[21:23] <woden1> dethklok: #ubuntu-ops
[21:23] <Tm_T> -is
[21:23] <ThomasHC> wierd
[21:23] <woden1> Tm_T: So you are telling me that all packages are compiled with i686 optimization?
[21:23] <woden1> Tm_T:  In the kubuntu-8.10-desktop-i386.iso
[21:23] <Tm_T> woden1: or so, cannot remember was it that or i586
[21:24] <Tm_T> woden1: anyway, it doesn't support 386 or so anymore
[21:24] <douche>  what pretty things does 8.10 have? beryl is dead isnt it?
[21:24] <Tm_T> douche: KDE4
[21:24] <ThomasHC> douche: beryl and compiz came back together to form Compiz-Fusion, but I recommend using Kwin in KDE
[21:25] <woden1> Tm_T:  No not 386......do you understand what we are talking about?  I'm not talking about running on a 386 processor.  I'm talking about compiling the packages with i386 optimizations.
[21:25] <martin101> have easy would it be to use compiz fusion instead the KDE4 effects in kubuntu?
[21:25] <Tm_T> woden1: I know, that's what I'm telling you
[21:25] <douche> Im not getting any effects really
[21:25] <douche> I dont think fglrx is installed
[21:25] <Tm_T> woden1: optimizations, if you build with 686 features, you cannot run in older anymore
[21:26] <Tm_T> martin101: easy enough
[21:26] <woden1> Tm_T:  Ok yes.  So, I think i686 covers maybe 99.9% of all existing PCs?
[21:26] <Tm_T> perhaps
[21:27] <martin101> how do you do, if I can, I'd seriously consider giving kubuntu another go, I guess I could address the speed issues later!
[21:27] <Tm_T> martin101: IIRC just install compiz stuff and change your window manager in systemsettings -> user defaults
[21:28] <martin101> oh okay
[21:29] <woden1> Tm_T: I mean seriously, who is using an original Pentium processor?
[21:29] <jabrroa> how much ram will kubuntu support? i have 32GB of corsair dominator.  is it compatible? and what about video
[21:29] <Tm_T> woden1: I'm still using 486sx
[21:29] <woden1> Tm_T:  With what OS?
[21:30] <Mr-S> woden1 >> I am in my mp3 / firewall  box :)
[21:30] <woden1> Wowzers...
[21:30] <Tm_T> woden1: currently WfW 3.11, it has broken floppy so installing another OS is tad bit harder
[21:31] <woden1> Sheesh lol
[21:31] <genii> jabrroa: With 64bit install it will see your 32Gb no problem
[21:31] <woden1> Okay I guess some people are still using the original Pentiums
[21:31] <Sokal-EC> does anyone know a flash editor for kubuntu
[21:31] <Sokal-EC> i tried the f4l thing and no good
[21:32] <Mr-S> Sokal F4l (Flash for Linux )
[21:32] <woden1> Whats the difference between the DVD and the CD iso?
[21:32] <Sokal-EC> been there
[21:32] <Mr-S> sorry no other options
[21:32] <Sokal-EC> why wont f4l open a swf file?
[21:32] <Sokal-EC> do i need to run it as su?
[21:32] <Tm_T> woden1: DVD has live-cd and "alternative installer" in it
[21:32] <martin101> Mr-S the easiest option would probably use a windows app under wine!
[21:33] <Mr-S> martin > i like your thinking
[21:33] <woden1> Is there any advantage to the amd64 iso?
[21:33] <Sokal-EC> how do i run wine then I have zero experience working with it
[21:33] <Mr-S> you can get the Adobe CD suite running with wine, but hell you will need lots lots of coffee
[21:33] <Sokal-EC> i have a flash project i need done asap for a client
[21:36] <Mr-S> Sokal > I am afraid you need to fire up windows ....
[21:36] <Sokal-EC> oh barf
[21:36] <Sokal-EC> lol
[21:36] <Sokal-EC> can nvu edit flash?
[21:37] <martin101> Sokal-EC - sudo apt-get install wine
[21:38] <martin101> locate the windows exe and right click it, open with windows loader!
[21:38] <Sokal-EC> i have it installed i just dont know how to use it
[21:38] <Sokal-EC> ok
[21:39] <martin101> under gnome, i think you can just double click the exe, as far as I remember under kde you have to open it with wine I think
[21:39] <woden1> Sokal-EC:  You just open up a terminal, type wine <path to executable>
[21:40] <Tm_T> martin101: works in KDE too if all is set right
[21:40] <woden1> Does the amd64 iso contain an amd64 kernel plus all packages compiled 64bit?  Or is it just amd64 kernel with all packages being 32bit?
[21:40] <martin101> yeah, but I don't think after just installing it it works that way
[21:40] <Tm_T> woden1: ofcourse all in 64bit
[21:40] <Tm_T> woden1: wouldn't it be nonsense otherway
[21:41] <woden1> Tm_T: So to get flash working you need to run 32-bit browser?
[21:41] <Tm_T> woden1: no
[21:41] <woden1> Tm_T:  I dont know if it would be nonsense.  I have Debian with amd64 kernel and all my packages are 32bit.  Why is that nonsense?
[21:41] <jabrroa> ok thanks and what about sli? i have three Nvidia 9800's gtx edition 1 gb
[21:41] <martin101> there is a wrapper to run flash in 64bit browser if i remember rightly
[21:42] <Tm_T> woden1: would be nonsense to make separate image just for that
[21:42] <woden1> Tm_T:  What do you mean seperate image?  A separate ISO?
[21:42] <Tm_T> yes
[21:43] <woden1> You mean a separate one for 64bit kernel + 32bit packages and a separate one for 64bit kernel + 64bit packages?
[21:44] <indiraider> hey this is dethklok
[21:44] <indiraider> ia32 isn't working
[21:44] <indiraider> is it ia32-libs?
[21:44] <Tm_T> woden1: no, only first one alone
[21:44] <Tm_T> indiraider: perhaps
[21:45] <woden1> Tm_T:  yea, I mean you are saying it would be nonsense to make both of those images..right?
[21:45] <woden1> indiraider:  What is ia32-libs?
[21:45] <histo> woden1: for running 32bit apps on 64bit
[21:45] <indiraider> it is supposed to be an extention so I can run my assembly 32bit nasm
[21:45] <Tm_T> woden1: no, but it would be nonsense in every way
[21:45] <histo> !swfdec-mozilla
[21:46] <histo> hrm... no swfdec in repos?
[21:46] <jabrroa> anyone?
[21:46] <indiraider> so are you sure ia32-libs? it won't mess up my install?
[21:46] <woden1> histo:  so if you have ia32-libs installed, you can execute 32bit apps?
[21:47] <Tm_T> !find swfdec
[21:47] <Tm_T> woden1: yes that's the plan
[21:47] <indiraider> "invalid operation ia32-libs
[21:47] <indiraider> "invalid operation ia32-libs"
[21:48] <Tm_T> indiraider: what was the command you tried?
[21:48] <indiraider> sudo apt-get ia32-libs
[21:48] <genii> put "install" in there
[21:48] <indiraider> in the konsole
[21:48] <genii> indiraider: sudo apt-get install ia32-libs
[21:49] <woden1> indiraider:  sudo -i
[21:49] <woden1>  apt-get install ia32-libs
[21:49] <jussi01> !flash64
[21:49] <indiraider> indiraider@indiraider-laptop:~$ sudo apt-get install ia32-libs
[21:49] <indiraider> Reading package lists... Done
[21:49] <indiraider> Building dependency tree
[21:49] <indiraider> Reading state information... Done
[21:49] <woden1> jussi01:  Is Firefox the browser for Kubuntu?
[21:49] <indiraider> ia32-libs is already the newest version.
[21:50] <indiraider> ia32-libs set to manually installed.
[21:50] <uman> Hi everyone one, i have a programming question and dont know where to ask it so i would really appreciate it if you guys could help me out or tell me where to ask it. All i want to do is a simple little app (in visual c++ or visual basic 2008) where i have a list of words in the source code and when i run the app i can see the first word in like a form box or somthing, then there should be a button i can click that makes the first word that was in the form
[21:50] <uman> box be replaced by the second word. when that button is pressed again, the previous word is replaced by the next and so on. Im desperate, i really need this. Thanks in advance. (i guess it could also be in python if i use the text editor, and i need it to run in windows xp. Thanks
[21:50] <Tm_T> woden1: Konqueror
[21:50] <indiraider> The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
[21:50] <indiraider>   linux-headers-2.6.24-19
[21:50] <indiraider>   linux-headers-2.6.24-19-generic
[21:50] <indiraider> Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them.
[21:50] <indiraider> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[21:50] <indiraider> this is what I'm getting
[21:50] <jussi01> !paste | | indiraider
[21:50] <Tm_T> uman: #c++ ?
[21:50] <genii> indiraider: In future please do not paste into the irc channel, but use pastebin instead
[21:50] <ThomasHC> uman: umm, isn;t this a linux channel? lol
[21:50] <woden1> Tm_T:  I am glad that Kubuntu uses Konqueror....the web browser for KDE.  One thing I do not like about Ubuntu is that it uses Firefox instead of Epiphany.
[21:51] <genii> ThomasHC:  #linux is the linux channel. This is the Kubuntu channel
[21:51] <woden1> indiraider:  Pastes: http://paste.ubuntu.com
[21:51] <ThomasHC> genii: no crap, but it is a linux related channel
[21:51] <indiraider> sorry
[21:51] <ThomasHC> And he;s using Visual Basic
[21:51] <ThomasHC> so.....
[21:52] <genii> ThomasHC: "in visual C++ OR visual basic"
[21:52] <Tm_T> ThomasHC: don't be rude
[21:52] <woden1> So what is the first thing that you would tell a KDE user that hasn't tried KDE in about 7 years and has been using GNOME exclusively this entire time.
[21:53] <Tm_T> woden1: KDE has a great flexibility
[21:53] <woden1> Yea I'm excited to try it
[21:53] <indiraider> so does anyone have a solution to my problem?
[21:53] <Tm_T> woden1: anyway, this is getting non-support kind so see you in #kubuntu-offtopic
[21:53] <ThomasHC> Tm_T: Sorry, but when someones being a smart ***
[21:53] <kkathman> Tm_T,  in everything but KDE4 that is :) hehe
[21:53] <woden1> Can I run the Kubuntu.iso installer from Debian?  I'd rather not have to reboot off the CD.
[21:53] <Tm_T> kkathman: well in KDE4 too here
[21:53] <Tm_T> woden1: no you can't IIRC (:
[21:53] <kkathman> yes Tm_T  you have THE magic system :)
[21:53] <Tm_T> ThomasHC: no
[21:53] <woden1> Tm_T: Didn't know there was a kubuntu-offtopic, cool thanks.
[21:53] <kkathman> hehe
[21:54] <Tm_T> kkathman: true that
[21:54] <woden1> Tm_T: That would be pretty cool if you could run the installer from within a linux distro
[21:54] <ThomasHC> Tm_T: or is just too stupid for life
[21:54] <Tm_T> ThomasHC: stop
[21:55] <ThomasHC> doing what?
[21:55] <Tm_T> ThomasHC: we don't like rudeness
[21:55] <ThomasHC> I'm not trying to be rude
[21:55] <ThomasHC> And guess what
[21:55] <Tm_T> but you are (:)
[21:55] <ThomasHC> I don't like smart ***s
[21:55] <swajak> *cough cough*  Calling all compiz-aware diggers to laugh in the face of  http://digg.com/mods/Customize_Your_Own_Killer_Enigma_Desktop
[21:56]  * genii sips his coffee
[21:56] <woden1> What are the currently the biggest limitations/problems with Kubuntu 8.10 that most users should be aware of?  Is there a FAQ?
[21:56] <jabrroa> will three SLI nvidia 9800 gtx 1 gb work with kubuntu?
[21:56] <Tm_T> woden1: first, see release notes
[21:56]  * kkathman pats Tm_T  on the back :)
[21:56] <ThomasHC> alright..fine
[21:56] <indiraider> !paste
[21:56] <ThomasHC> I'll just watch
[21:57] <Tm_T> ThomasHC: pleae read guidelines
[21:57] <Tm_T> !guidelines > ThomasHC
[21:57] <jabrroa> ?????
[21:57] <woden1> That wiki.kubuntu.org/FAQ link in the topic list redirects to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions
[21:57] <Tm_T> jabrroa: what I know, should, but cannot promise for sure
[21:58] <jabrroa> ok thanks
[21:59] <jabrroa> and last thing what about a AMD phenom 9850 black quad core?
[21:59] <Tm_T> what about it?
[21:59] <indiraider> ok this is what I am getting when I try to link a simple hello world nasm assembly.
[21:59] <indiraider> http://paste.ubuntu.com/73085/
[21:59] <jabrroa> compatible?
[21:59] <woden1> I believe this is the proper URL for the FAQ:  http://www.kubuntu.org/faq
[22:00] <Tm_T> jabrroa: that is processor?
[22:00] <indiraider> I am banging my head on the table guys
[22:00] <jabrroa> yes i have all gaming hardware... top of the line and im switching to linux for speed
[22:00] <jabrroa> its a proccesor
[22:01] <Tm_T> jabrroa: then there CANT be any problems
[22:01] <jabrroa> ??
[22:01] <jabrroa> i dont get what you mean
[22:01] <Tm_T> jabrroa: processor should never have compatibility issues with operating system, if you're asking that
[22:02] <jabrroa> ok
[22:02] <uga> jabrroa: but most your games won't run =)
[22:02] <jabrroa> i think i will do 64-BIT kubuntu then
[22:02] <Tm_T> uga: sure?
[22:02] <jabrroa> im smart enough ::) ill get em
[22:02] <uga> Tm_T: 99%
[22:02] <Tm_T> uga: all my games do work
[22:02] <jabrroa> I HATE windos
[22:02] <sourcemaker> how can I settup the name of my host? I receive the following tcpdump "arp who-has notebook tell router" but my hostname is "sourcemaker"?
[22:02] <uga> Tm_T: he's a gamer from windows
[22:03] <jabrroa> yea well i play cryis
[22:03] <uga> Tm_T: all his windows games are ported to linux?
[22:03] <Tm_T> uga: so am I in that sense
[22:03] <jabrroa> tm-t what games exactly lol
[22:03] <uga> Tm_T: I seriously doubt more than 10% game makers care about linux
[22:03] <Tm_T> uga: I know, but doesn't mean the games _HE_ plays are an issue
[22:03] <jabrroa> i play games like crysis and bioshock
[22:03] <Tm_T> uga: all games I play has native ports or works with WINE
[22:03] <jabrroa> way new. way extreme.
[22:04] <uga> Tm_T: that means that statistically he's got 90% at least games that dont' run in linux
[22:04] <jabrroa> ill get em
[22:04] <uga> Tm_T: wine? or you mean the paid for counterpart =)
[22:04] <jabrroa> ??
[22:04] <jabrroa> counterpart?
[22:04] <Tm_T> uga: I mean WINE, Cedega is way less compatible
[22:05] <jabrroa> oh
[22:05] <uga> jabrroa: the company that produces wine, has especial versions that are optimized for running games and most office applications
[22:05] <jabrroa> oh ok
[22:05] <uga> like crossover office, which is not free
[22:05] <jabrroa> work better?
[22:05] <Tm_T> uga: and statistically he doesn't have "all" games (:)
[22:05] <uga> jabrroa: yes
[22:05] <Tm_T> jabrroa: works better in some cases, I guess
[22:05] <robinr> simpler to install
[22:06] <uga> Tm_T: statistically most the famous games are from those companies that only produce for windows
[22:06] <jabrroa> hmm :) i have expendable resources sooo.... i think it will cost less than my cooling system lol
[22:06] <Tm_T> uga: I know
[22:06] <Tm_T> uga: still doesn't mean all games he plays are those
[22:06] <Tm_T> anyway, this is getting sidetracked heavily
[22:06] <uga> well, ask him and get prove
[22:06] <uga> I did my calculations ;)
[22:06] <joao_> preciso de uma ajuda
[22:07] <joao_> como instalo o mozila firefox 3 no kubuntu
[22:07] <Tm_T> !es | joao_
[22:07] <joao_> alguem que habla em portugues
[22:07] <jabrroa> i play these games on most part: Crysis, Call of duty 4, Bioshock, Oblivion, and mass effect
[22:08] <Tm_T> !br | joao_
[22:08] <joao_> obrigado
[22:08] <joao_> thanks
[22:08] <Tm_T> jabrroa: see appdb.wine-hq.org or something like that
[22:09] <jabrroa> ok
[22:09] <Tm_T> should have a list of applications and how they work with WINE
[22:11] <Guest48820> does anyone know when the next release of kde is planned?I'm running 4.1 on my acer and having some graphic probs
[22:11] <jabrroa> CALL OF DUTY 4!! lol its on the list!!
[22:11] <Dr_willis> its constantly being updates.. i think 4.1.3 is in the works..  from what i hear in here.
[22:12] <Guest48820> do i have to add specific sources for updates?
[22:12] <joao_> nao estou conseguindo entrar no canal #kubuntu-br ou pt
[22:12] <joao_> sera que tenho que me cadastrar pra entrar no canal
[22:12] <Dr_willis> No idea what reos have 4.1.3 if any.. they may appear in the backports repo.
[22:13] <Guest48820> ok thx
[22:13] <Dr_willis> KDE 4.1.3 -is what i have..
[22:13] <jabrroa> tanks everybody
[22:13] <Dr_willis> so they must be in the backports repos.
[22:14] <Dr_willis> The application Konqueror (konqueror) crashed and caused the signal 6 (SIGABRT).
[22:14] <Dr_willis> Weee!@
[22:14] <Dr_willis> :)
[22:15] <uga> Dr_willis: impossible, sure it's your fault
[22:15] <uga> Dr_willis: I mean... you sure didn't type anythign in the url line, right?
[22:15] <uga> you're not meant to type in anything there!
[22:15] <uga> and neither click buttons
[22:15] <Dr_willis> No.. i went to the 'midnight commander' profile. :)
[22:15] <uga> oh, and menus are meant for advanced users only
[22:16] <uga> see? couldn't be the browser's fault ;P
[22:16] <jabrroa> lol
[22:17] <Dr_willis> but i am an advanced loser..
[22:17] <Dr_willis> :)
[22:18] <Mr-S> sorry Dr_willis no menu option on this one :)
[22:19]  * Dr_willis goes back to fvwm and plays freecol
[22:20]  * thomas[away] is away: Gone away for now
[22:20] <Tm_T> ...
[22:20] <Dr_willis> ---
[22:20] <Tm_T> thomas[away]: I said something, didn't I ?
[22:21] <andrew__> Is there a problem with the installer ?  I have loa screended 8.10 on two different laptops and both times the physical screen size has not been recognised.  (It was reported as 1280x1024 on the older laptop and 1980x1400 on the newer)  Both are limited to 1024x768.
[22:22] <Dr_willis> ive noticed the live cds getting the res wrong on my machines also.
[22:27] <ThomasHC> Tm_T: I hit the wrong hotkey
[22:28] <Tm_T> ThomasHC: just disable that feature? (;
[22:28] <courtjesterg> anybody have a digital camera and wants to download still pictures to there computer?
[22:28] <ThomasHC> been a bit busy
[22:28] <ThomasHC> but just did
[22:29] <Tm_T> ThomasHC: thanks
[22:29] <ThomasHC> Sorry, been coding a lot
[22:29] <Tm_T> courtjesterg: some of us wants and does, why?
[22:29] <courtjesterg> camera.app in systimatic packagemager to run press alt f2 type camera it will make a folder multimedia thats where the pics downlaod too
[22:29] <courtjesterg> download it
[22:29] <Tm_T> no I wont
[22:29] <Dr_willis> I dont need it. :P
[22:30] <courtjesterg> dunno it haad my camera on file but it did nothing so i downloaded this and worked fine
[22:30] <Dr_willis> I plug in my camrea and  it shows up as a usb thumb drive.. :)
[22:30] <courtjesterg> now taking nude videos and posting on the interent for my personal collection is another story ;)
[22:31] <Tm_T> !ohmy | courtjesterg
[22:31] <jabrroa> fag
[22:31] <courtjesterg> yeah i got an hp photosmartm547 i am using its on file
[22:31] <Tm_T> jabrroa: what?
[22:31] <courtjesterg> i really want that cannon from bestbuys
[22:31] <jabrroa> courtjseter
[22:32] <courtjesterg> !ohmy | jabrroa
[22:32] <jabrroa> haha
[22:32] <andrew__> are we in a camera discussion group or does anyone have any ideas about the installer for Kubuntu 8.10 ?
[22:32] <jabrroa> installer?
[22:32] <courtjesterg> what about the installer?
[22:32] <courtjesterg> worked fine
[22:33] <jabrroa> i installed on my ps3
[22:33] <jabrroa> work like butter
[22:33] <courtjesterg> i stuck it on disk and installed great
[22:33] <andrew__> It has twice (on two different laptops) failed to recognise the physical limits of the screen size.
[22:33] <courtjesterg> are you running it in default
[22:34] <courtjesterg> or try runnin git in fail safe
[22:34] <courtjesterg> or options
[22:34] <courtjesterg> sounds like you have it installed just the resoultion you are complaining about
[22:35] <andrew__> I stuck the CD in and installed Kubuntu.  Screen size was set to 1280x1023 on the older laptop and 1980x1400 on the newer.  Both have _physical_ screen sizes of 1024x768
[22:35] <courtjesterg> !x
[22:36] <ThomasHC> !
[22:36] <courtjesterg> !xconfig
[22:37] <andrew__> I fixed the resolution problem on this laptop, but then I have been around Linux for a while.  A newbie would still be scratching their head wondering where the menu is ...
[22:38] <courtjesterg> dunno if you can't fix it normally with the config file i don't know what to tell you try deleteing all your config files and backups through root and making a new one
[22:38] <courtjesterg> edit the res your self in the xconfig file
[22:39] <andrew__> I am not concerned about me.  The _Installer_ is wrong and needs fixed.
[22:39] <Tm_T> andrew__: hmm, I'm not sure if all hardware can be supported and recognized automatically without support from manufacturers
[22:40] <courtjesterg> i prefer to use !kdesu kate
[22:40] <andrew__> I thought physical sizes could be recognised ?  All previous versions I have installed did.
[22:41] <courtjesterg> well if the installer is bad it obvious to download and install with a new one!
[22:41] <andrew__> Is there a new one ?  I got my CD soon after 8.10 was released.
[22:41] <courtjesterg> all my hardware has been reconized
[22:42] <courtjesterg> i just can't gt my rewriteable to read disk think its a hardware malfunction
[22:42] <courtjesterg> just clicks like a bad starter in a car dieing
[22:43] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[22:43] <ThomasHC> hello ActionParsnip
[22:46]  * ActionParsnip listens to the wind blow
[23:04] <courtjesterg> *courtjesterg listens to th egothic channel in amarok
[23:04] <courtjesterg> hm
[23:05] <ThomasHC> anyone know a webkit browser for KDE/WT usin g the latest webkit?
[23:05] <ThomasHC> *using
[23:17] <courtjesterg> !alt f2
[23:18] <courtjesterg> i am looking for run command to use the magnifying program and the desktop record program anybody know what they are called?
[23:19] <ActionParsnip> courtjesterg: edit the menu to find out the command
[23:19] <courtjesterg> edit the alt f2 menu?
[23:20] <courtjesterg> i beleive i do not know how to edit my menu
[23:20] <courtjesterg> one is kmag i know this
[23:20] <isaacj87> I've been playing around with kde-nightly and I noticed that the Oxygen plasma theme has been changed up. Do you think it'll be possible to have the Oxygen theme from KDE4.1?
[23:20] <ActionParsnip> kmenuedit
[23:20] <courtjesterg> ok
[23:23] <ActionParsnip> courtjesterg: you may be able to assign a key combination to trigger it
[23:23] <courtjesterg> how come after i installed my graphics driver desktop effects no longer work?
[23:23] <ActionParsnip> courtjesterg: or simply type it in the run box thingy
[23:23] <courtjesterg> yeah it was in desktop effect but they don't work
[23:24] <courtjesterg> hey what is the meta key anyway?
[23:24] <courtjesterg> i did reassign but nothing
[23:24] <faemir> Anyone here know if it's possible to get packages for kde for kubuntu that don't have feature removal in them?
[23:24] <ActionParsnip> courtjesterg: glxinfo | grep -i direct
[23:24] <courtjesterg> is that in nano or command line
[23:25] <courtjesterg> nano said yes
[23:25] <ActionParsnip> courtjesterg: its a cli command (in konsole)
[23:25] <courtjesterg> direct rendering
[23:25] <ActionParsnip> nano is a text editor only
[23:26] <ActionParsnip> ok thats cool
[23:26] <courtjesterg> now what?
[23:26] <ActionParsnip> courtjesterg: sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[23:26] <ActionParsnip> or
[23:26] <ActionParsnip> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=686524
[23:27] <ActionParsnip> courtjesterg: that will give you compiz-fusion
[23:28] <courtjesterg> ok thks man appreciate it
[23:28] <ActionParsnip> courtjesterg: np bro
[23:28] <courtjesterg> i got here in adept sometime installing through lonsole doesn't post icons and such
[23:30] <courtjesterg> actually they are all plugins
[23:30] <ActionParsnip> courtjesterg: its the same system, the debs downloaded in each system have icons
[23:32] <Wicked> !plasmoids
[23:32] <Wicked> :(
[23:32] <ActionParsnip> !find plasm
[23:33] <Wicked> i need a good system monitor
[23:33] <Wicked> cpu usage,mem usage,network load....
[23:34] <ActionParsnip> Wicked: superkaramba
[23:34] <Wicked> yea
[23:34] <ActionParsnip> !info superkaramba
[23:34] <Wicked> i tried a few SK ones...but they didnt work right
[23:34] <lrentz> everyonce in awhile  my system tray icons will go weird.  Anyone else having this problem?  Using the nvidia driver.
[23:35] <lrentz> if I switch to a terminal and come back they are fine.
[23:35] <ActionParsnip> lrentz: yeah i got that, no idea
[23:35] <Wicked> yea i have that too lrentz
[23:35] <lrentz> the only way I know to refresh it is to switch to a terminal and come back.
[23:36] <lrentz> how about you
[23:36] <ActionParsnip> lrentz: i just kinda ignore it, i use yakuake mostly
[23:36] <courtjesterg> ohh while you are here actionparsnip been trying to fuguire out why my cd/rewrite doesn't see any media when i put in a disk. Bios sees it my sysle sees it even in |shw and such even when i mount it spits the disk out no media
[23:37] <lrentz> hmm.   Never heard of it.  What is it?
[23:37] <ActionParsnip> !info yakuake
[23:37] <lrentz> ubottu:  thanks
[23:39] <lrentz> If I remember correctly.  I didnt have the problem until I switched to the restricted driver though.
[23:40] <ActionParsnip> courtjesterg: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/220957
[23:40] <ActionParsnip> lrentz: ive had it always in kde 4.1
[23:41] <ActionParsnip> courtjesterg: are you a member of the cdrom group?
[23:41] <ActionParsnip> courtjesterg: and burn
[23:41] <lrentz> ActionParsnip: this is the first time I have switched to kde 4:x
[23:41] <ActionParsnip> (the group 'burn')
[23:41] <courtjesterg> nice thanks but i notice it says hardy useing 8.10 intrepid.... No i dunno know that not familar
[23:42] <ActionParsnip> courtjesterg: type groups in konsole
[23:42] <courtjesterg> whats the cdrom /burn group
[23:42] <courtjesterg> k
[23:42] <ActionParsnip> courtjesterg: yu need to be in those groups
[23:43] <courtjesterg> aalright i just typed groups
[23:43] <courtjesterg> adm dialout cdrom plugdev lpadmin admin sambashare
[23:43] <courtjesterg> what is this?
[23:43] <ActionParsnip> courtjesterg: thats what groups you are a member of
[23:43] <ActionParsnip> id add yourself to burn and cdrom
[23:43] <courtjesterg> sambasshare
[23:44] <courtjesterg> !sambashare
[23:44] <courtjesterg> !groups
[23:44] <courtjesterg> forget it look it up
[23:44] <courtjesterg> afk to internet pm if needed
[23:45] <ActionParsnip> lrentz: what are you burning with?
[23:56] <a> it's bad if you can't ask questions
[23:56] <a> not if you don't mean bad or can't be lead
[23:57] <Dr_willis> 0_o
[23:58] <a> say you lived in a house which houses may be brick or wood and you joined the trailer park or the communal tents and they all snobbed you
[23:58] <a> even though you loved these places after a while you invited the biggest out and kicked the little guy cos they just told you to go elswhere