/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2008/11/16/#ubuntu-irc.txt

XangCan someone clean up ubuntu-es please? There is a flooder.02:23
PiciLjL, elkbuntu: Around? ^^02:25
elkbuntui cant do anything to help, sorry02:25
elkbuntuat least, i dont think02:25
Picielkbuntu: ack, I assumed that the irccouncil had access there, doesnt look like it.02:26
Picieffie_jayx just took care of it02:27
XangIt is being taken care of now. Thanks.02:27
Xang:)02:27
elkbuntuyep02:28
elkbuntuhe struck as i entered02:28
[NikO]uBOTu-fr have autoban feature with flood and repeat detection02:28
elkbuntuthe main channels do too02:29
elkbuntuwith the floodbots02:29
effie_jayxhello all04:37
effie_jayxLjL,  ping04:38
effie_jayxanyone around?04:38
naliothhola04:39
tritiumhello04:39
effie_jayxsorry to cry wolf, just to ask on what to do04:48
effie_jayx#ubuntu-es seems a mess and it is basically bad IRC admin04:48
effie_jayxI am one of the ops, but policies are comanded in a team and the teams seems very disfunctional04:49
effie_jayxall the people have very different ideas of what we want from the channel04:49
elkbuntueffie_jayx, is that the cause of the flooding today?05:58
effie_jayxnot the cause05:59
effie_jayxthe lack of active ops05:59
effie_jayxflooding happens everyday05:59
elkbuntu:(05:59
effie_jayxthe fact that there are no good ops to herd the crowds there... leads to flodding05:59
effie_jayxsomehting must be done06:00
effie_jayxI mean, #ubuntu-es must be a central point for all spanish speaing locos06:00
effie_jayxit is were we give support06:00
effie_jayxit is the equivalent of #ubuntu but in spanish06:00
elkbuntuagreed on both counts.06:01
effie_jayxit is redundant to give support in each and every spanish loco irc channel06:01
elkbuntuhas there been a meeting of the ops of the channel?06:01
effie_jayxlast one last year06:01
effie_jayxthing is .. PELICANO06:02
effie_jayxthe guy is so overprotective over his role06:02
effie_jayxand I am honest here. I admit I haven't been that active myself06:02
effie_jayxbut there are issues that scale to the point of ops contradicting eachother06:03
effie_jayxelkbuntu, a meeting you suggest... I say yes. but it has to be a meeting iwth members of the ubuntu-irc team as well06:03
effie_jayxpelicano is not easily convinced that we need new ops.06:04
effie_jayxand LjL knows of what I speak06:04
elkbuntuthen ljl and jpds are probably your best bet as representatives.06:05
effie_jayxelkbuntu, great, I shall arrange for this to happen then06:05
effie_jayxelkbuntu, btw the name changed... it is santiago javier06:07
elkbuntueffie_jayx, heh06:47
[NikO]effie_jayx: perhaps, if needed ubotu-fr can join and activate flood/repeat protection, that will help for the lack of active ops11:15
effie_jayx[NikO], that would be usefull12:20
[NikO]ok12:21
[NikO]bot will need a OiA flag12:23
effie_jayx[NikO], OiA?, sorry I am not IRC bot literate12:23
[NikO] /msg chanserv access #ubuntu-es add uBOTu-fr +OiA12:24
[NikO]i thinks12:25
effie_jayxufff12:25
effie_jayx[NikO], I might have to wait for the founder of the channel for him to give it access12:30
[NikO]ok, bot is in, when it s done, just kick him12:30
effie_jayx[NikO], when it's done?12:31
[NikO]when access change12:31
effie_jayxok12:32
MTecknologyAnybody around?19:20
PriceChildWhat's up?19:21
jussi01heya MTecknology19:21
MTecknologyjussi01: hi19:21
MTecknologyI'm taking over the Ubuntu SD LoCo Team and wanna make sure I'm doing the channel right. I've been using it a while and the guy before me used it but now that I've taken over the team, it's starting to have activity.19:22
MTecknologyI was hoping somebody could make sure I'm handling things appropriately so I don't tick anyone off19:22
jussi01SD?19:22
jussi01PriceChild: is your man :D19:22
MTecknologysouth dakota19:22
jussi01ahh19:23
jussi01so -us-sd ?19:23
MTecknologyyup19:23
MTecknologyI imagine I'm handling things pretty well, but I figure if I wanna someday be important, I should start by doing things correctly.19:25
MTecknologyPriceChild: ??19:25
MTecknologywow, i know a lotta people in here...19:26
MTecknologyin here that I know... **19:27
PriceChildLooks fine to me.19:27
MTecknologyPriceChild: What did you even look at?19:28
PriceChildJust that you're not doing anything silly and unnecessary like always opped, tis nice to have freenode/staff on flags etc.19:28
MTecknologyPriceChild: I wanted to give myself +R on the channel too but I wasn't able to. I thought +f gave me that ability19:29
PriceChild+f lets you grant flags you have yourself.19:30
MTecknologyoh19:30
jussi01MTecknology: this is a good resource: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcTeam/CreatingChannels19:30
MTecknologyso I pretty much need to either get +F or get all flags?19:30
MTecknologyI was also curious if atoponce should be there or not19:31
PriceChildI'm trying to remember whether there's a reason you should have +R or not.19:31
MTecknologyI'm guessing that's just another standard irc user19:31
PriceChildMTecknology: there's no harm in leaving him there is there?19:31
PriceChildI assume he gave you the access you currently have.19:32
MTecknologyprobably not19:32
MTecknologyno19:32
MTecknologydjennewe19:32
MTecknologyI've never met atoponce19:32
MTecknologyPriceChild: should I maybe add *!*@ubuntu/member/* +votiA19:33
[NikO]..19:34
MTecknologymaybe not those flags, but +V maybe?19:35
[NikO]no19:35
MTecknologyok19:35
[NikO]http://freenode.net/channel_guidelines.shtml19:35
MTecknology[NikO]: I was looking at the link jussi01 gave me :P19:35
* jussi01 slaps MTecknology19:35
jussi01:P19:35
MTecknology?19:35
MTecknologyjussi01: did I get you in trouble? :P19:36
jussi01MTecknology: no... lol it was a playful slap19:36
MTecknologyso was my joke ;)19:36
jussi01MTecknology: you forgot the :P19:36
MTecknologyoh - I got up Friday morning - 4hr sleep since then19:37
jussi01lol19:37
MTecknologyPriceChild: so - conduct this channel similar to every other ubuntu channel and all will be good?19:39
MTecknologyoh - only one person can have +F, right?19:40
PriceChildyep, there's a channel guidelines page on the wiki, can't link it to you to it though sorry19:40
MTecknologyPriceChild: so since I'm taking over the thing completely, +F is probably a good idea?19:41
PriceChildis it required?19:41
PriceChildis there a reason its a good idea?19:42
MTecknologyI mean if I want to manage who is on the access list?19:42
PriceChildYou don't need +F for that.19:42
MTecknologythen I need to have every flag?19:43
MTecknologyso I can grant/remove them from others?19:43
MTecknologyerr - I have them already, don't I?19:44
PriceChildI Don't think that's true. /msg chanserv help flags19:44
MTecknologydon't think which part is true?19:45
PriceChildyou need +F19:45
MTecknologyand if he gives me +F, then he loses it?19:46
PriceChildFour people may hold +F.19:46
MTecknologyoh - ok19:47
MTecknologyHow many people hold it for -offtopic?19:47
MTecknologynow I'm just curious19:47
jussi01MTecknology: /msg chanserv access #ubuntu-offtopic list19:48
MTecknologyoh - i had it in my head that an access list was privlidged19:48
PriceChildaccess list is *normally* viewable by all, wheras +A is required for flags.19:50
MTecknologyoh19:50
MTecknologywell - someday maybe I'll get the privledge of being on that list19:51
MTecknologyfor now I get to practice with a live channel :P19:51
* jussi01 blacklists MTecknology's nick...19:51
jussi01:P19:51
MTecknologyhey - at least I never asked for it19:52
MTecknologyI am starting to consider applying though19:52
jussi01dont...19:52
MTecknologyno?19:52
jussi01applying for ops gets you nowhere... :D19:52
MTecknologyeh - am I still here?19:53
jussi01yes19:53
MTecknologyno, not ops19:53
MTecknologymember19:53
jussi01oh...19:53
jussi01go on then!!19:53
jussi01:D19:53
MTecknology:P19:53
jussi01(oops)19:54
MTecknologyI honestly doubt I'll ever be an op anywhere other than -us-sd19:54
jribwhy?19:54
jribwe should know I guess :)19:54
jussi01MTecknology: what makes you think that?19:55
MTecknologyidk - I just don't think I've ever given much to prove I'd be a useful op19:55
MTecknologyunless the LoCo proves something or trying to help in #u, but in my head that only helps me have a chance at member, not ops19:56
jussi01MTecknology: relax... :D19:56
MTecknologyhuh?19:56
MTecknologyI wasn't freaking out19:56
MTecknologyor was i?19:57
jussi01MTecknology: thing is, IMHO, the people selected to be ops are usually the ones who can be relied upon to have a level head, consistently. ;)19:57
MTecknologydang, I'm too tired to be able to answer that :P19:57
jussi01hehe19:58
jussi01MTecknology: you heard of this wonderful thing called, errr... sleep????19:58
MTecknologyI think the only time my head isn't level is when I'm really really bored, tired, and irritated. All at the same time.19:58
MTecknologybut those times I usually close irc, pound through what's ticking me off, and not fall asleep thinking about it19:59
MTecknologylike friday night19:59
MTecknologyOn the bright side though, dang I like how our wiki and website look.20:00
jussi01 MTecknology, go to bed... now... you are beginning to ramble :D20:00
MTecknologysorry20:00
MTecknologyYou should hear me when I'm trying to talk now20:00
MTecknologyI can't go to sleep just yet though, I'm occupied in something else20:01
MTecknologyjussi01: I'm thinking about bugging stdin and seeing if he wants to write more code to create a second database for factoids though. One that's filled with constants and one that has changes. So that changing a constant factoid, puts a new entry in the changing db and the bot looks at that one first.20:03
jussi01MTecknology: what would be the benefit of that?20:09
MTecknologyjussi01: sync up w/ the public factoids database and then add my own to it20:10
jussi01MTecknology: I can assure you he doesnt want to write more code atm though, I already have him doing several thiongs :D20:10
MTecknologyor whoever is using it. But he has more important things going on with that code by a long shot20:10
MTecknologyeh - yup20:10
* jussi01 goes to make breakfast...20:13
MTecknologyjussi01: I'm probably just going to need to keep a script to modify the factoid changes. Perhaps I can handle writing the code for that and hand it to stdin to see if it's useful20:13
MTecknologyat least then I'll have sone something useful with my life :P20:14
MTecknologyanyway - sorry to flood the channel with useless crap - g'night20:14
MTecknologyday... w/e20:14
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