/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2008/11/16/#ubuntu-ops.txt

FlannelHi SeaPhor, how can we help you today?02:51
SeaPhorI am here to apologize, we have config'd a bot for our channel and it has sent a request to you for "learning" a new factoid, we are looking into the config to stop this and will not do any further until we have it,,, sorry, here is the log... <Anacranom> !learn wbc is http://www.woodbeeco.com02:51
SeaPhor<Anacranom> ummmmm----   <Earth> Your edit request has been forwarded to #ubuntu-ops.  Thank you for your attention to detail02:51
FlannelSeaPhor: ah, it's not actually forwarding here.  Although it's likely trying to.02:51
SeaPhorwell, i wanted to come and present apology if it was, we are trying to get things in order but do not want to affect others02:53
FlannelHi tj83, how can we help you today?02:53
FlannelSeaPhor: Thanks for your concern.02:53
tj83Flannel, I'm here with SeaPhor , we are working on the bot... and was doing a test and figured i would make sure it did not bleed over here again.02:54
FlannelSeaPhor: If you add people to the editors, they'll be able to just edit.  That might be a good workaround for the time being02:54
FlannelI believe theres a simple config variable to make it world editable.  but, I haven't looked at that code in forever.02:54
SeaPhorwell, just want to stay on good terms with you all, thanks, and if any are bored and just want to hang-out or help, stop by any-time02:56
SeaPhorg'night02:56
tj83Flannel, thanks for the help02:56
bazhangyao_ziyuan105:54
Flanneler, where?05:57
FlannelI could swear I just saw that nick, but can't find it anymore05:57
tritiumHe was in #ubuntu, but left a moment ago.05:58
bazhangin #ubuntu, already quit; was saying 'ubuntu is so fragile now' without asking any support questions05:58
FlannelAh.  That's why I recognized it05:58
bazhanghe has been doing that for a long time; previously was about scim/skim not working; turns out he never configured the global engine for it.05:59
elkbuntuCustomer: My computer wont work. Tech: Did you turn it on? Customer: Oh. Nevermind.06:03
bazhanghaha06:03
elkbuntuthat's basically the scenario06:03
bazhangugh. more sudo su from fryguy06:13
Flannelcall him on it06:33
Zirodaysomeone might want to pop into -offtopic06:48
stdinand +m it hopefully06:49
Zirodaystdin: mmm well just the ones that currently cliam they are drunk06:49
stdinthat's probably 50% of the channel 50% of the time06:49
stdinat any rate, I keep sane by not have +o in there06:50
stdinif it get's worse (probably will), use the ops trigger06:51
* Flannel notes we need more ops with +o in -ot, but everyone already knows that.06:52
stdinone day, just for fun. give everyone in -ot +o on join. and just see what happens...06:53
Flannelstdin: nah, they have GodWars MUDs for that.06:54
stdinI think it would be a competition of who can type '/kick' fastest06:54
elkbuntustdin, no, the channel would literally explode from all the inflated egos07:02
Mez_hmm. Quassel isn't that bad.07:17
Mez_though it doesn't support ipv6 it seems07:18
Myrtti*yawn*10:51
elkbuntu<heyuxiang> !give csabee ask10:52
elkbuntu<fosco_> ACTION gives csabee a bag full with Michael Jacksons dropped noses10:52
elkbuntu<ubottu> Sorry, I don't know anything about give csabee ask10:52
elkbuntu<L-G> ACTION gives csabee a girl guide10:52
elkbuntusigh.10:52
Myrtti*sigh*10:53
elkbuntufosco was alive, L-G has been forwarded here10:56
elkbuntuhow do i mark this in the bot?10:56
MyrttiTIME TO JUMPGLOMP Tm_M!11:15
Tm_Mindeed11:26
* Myrtti prods11:26
Myrtti[13:27] < GFree> Hi. Got a bit of a problem here. I've recently been called "gay" by a  guy from school because he saw my laptop running Linux (Ubuntu). How do I  resolve this issue? Can I file a bug report?11:28
MyrttiI'm tempted to answer "and my friends call me a girl and weirdo, so what?"11:31
Tm_Mhaha11:35
Tm_Mok, lunch done, back to hospital11:35
ubottuIn ubottu, ardchoille said: xdvdshrink is XDVDShrink is a project in BASH and Perl-Gtk2 that allows you to create fair-use archival copies of DVD content on single-layer writable DVDs. See http://dvdshrink.sourceforge.net11:41
Myrttiyou didn't congratulate him, I'm disappointed11:41
elky_e71congrat for what?11:44
Myrttihe became a daddy yesterday 1830 EET11:47
ikoniaMyrtti: have you got a moment please ?11:47
elkbuntuoh11:47
Myrttia girl, 3700g11:47
Myrttiikonia: for you dear, always11:48
ikoniais a pm ok as it's a bit off-topic ?11:48
Myrttiikonia: you're asking from a Finn11:48
ikoniafair enough11:48
Myrttiikonia: I wouldn't mind as I know you from elsewhere than -ot and u11:48
ikoniasuper11:48
MyrttiI get freaked out by total strangers pm'ing me and if there's no context in their pm's11:49
ikoniaelkbuntu: how you getting on with the device now ?12:19
elky_e71Good. just got the simplyubuntu theme and the hardy wallpaper on it12:21
ikoniaooh12:21
ikonianice ?12:21
elky_e71Elkbuntu.net/simplyubuntu.html if you want shortcuts12:22
elkbuntuthe text on the home screen is a little too close to the heron wallpaper, tweaking now.12:23
* Gary pm's Myrtti (just to freak her out)12:27
MyrttiGary: sorry, I know you12:28
Garybut do you now!  mwhahahaa12:28
jribjrib.net is nicer than elkbuntu.net12:32
elkbuntumuch furrier12:36
ikonialooking12:37
ikoniaMyrtti: did you say http://www.babinokia.com/ put dodgy apps on your phone ?12:40
Myrttiikonia: ownskin.com12:40
ikoniaah12:40
MyrttiI don't know if they're dodgy12:40
MyrttiI just don't want them there12:40
ikoniastuff your not comfortable with then12:40
elkbuntuwhich one were you thinking of?12:42
ikoniawho me ?12:43
elkbuntuya12:43
ikoniagod knows, just browsing12:44
elkbuntubtw, how do i switch to a digital clock, rather than this analog thing that is impossible to read?12:46
elkbuntunevermind, found it. missed it before12:47
ikoniatook me ages to find that too12:48
elky_e71:)12:51
ikoniadid you know the E71 doesn't support the old nrg ring tones ?12:53
elkbuntupurdy http://www.babinokia.com/2008/02/21/glamur-v3-update/13:00
ikoniaelkbuntu: got that one13:05
elkbuntui put that one on the 'business' profile, and the ubuntu one on the 'personal' profile13:07
Myrttigo to hell with your expensive E-series phones13:10
elkbuntu:P13:10
elkbuntuAU$550 isnt that expensive :P13:11
elky_e71such a purdy phone too. And i can type properly now without almost dropping it13:15
ikoniaI don't think I'll use the two profile option13:15
elky_e71ikonia, which color did you get?13:15
Myrttiyou do have the mobile barcoder on your firefox, do you ;-)13:15
ikoniaelky_e71: trying menu13:15
ikoniaMyrtti: of course13:15
elkbuntuMyrtti, of course.13:15
Myrttigoodygood.13:16
Myrttithe one on the sandbox is much better though13:16
elkbuntuit needs a better border around the barcodes though13:16
Myrtti(the one in the sandbox has)13:16
ikoniaI need to get an 8GB card tommorow13:16
ikonianeed to put up a better fight with tomtom too13:17
elkbuntuit keeps trying to use the > of the menu as part of the barcode, heh13:17
Myrttihttps://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addons/versions/278013:17
Myrttielkbuntu: thanks for that theme, it fits perfectly on my sand coloured n9513:20
elkbuntuMyrtti, :)13:20
ikoniaelkbuntu: blackglamur is what I webt for13:21
elkbuntui meant phone color13:21
ikoniawent for13:21
ikoniaooh, mine is the grey, not white one13:22
elkbuntusame. backreadable buttons ftw13:22
ikoniaagreed13:22
elkbuntuthat's the only reason i went with the grey. seriously.13:23
ikoniaI'm going to have to get a white one thoug13:23
ikoniathough13:23
ikoniamy girlfriend wants one now that she's seen mine13:24
elkbuntuhaha13:24
ikoniaso she can have the white one13:24
Myrtti*grumble*13:25
ikoniawhy grumble ?13:25
* elkbuntu huggles Myrtti13:25
elkbuntujealousy13:25
ikoniaah13:25
elkbuntuwe're dangling shiny in front of a Finn.13:25
ikoniawell I tried about 10 different phones in the last 2 months and this by far is the best of all compromises13:25
MyrttiI don't want a new phone I don't want a new phone I don't want a new phone I don't want a new phone I don't want a new phone I don't want a new phone13:25
ikoniasize/wright/functions/looks/interface etc etc13:25
ikoniaweight I meant13:26
* elkbuntu huggles Myrtti again.13:26
ikoniawipes the floor with the blackberry bold13:26
Myrttiblackberry ewwww13:26
ikoniaI liked it, I have to admit13:26
Myrttiewwww13:26
ikoniabig jump from my plebby 6300 13:26
elkbuntubut it's crackberry. it comes with a stigma.13:26
Myrttiok, talking about blackberry turned me off13:27
Myrttithanks ikonia13:27
ikoniaelkbuntu: yes, and it was quite a big handset13:27
elkbuntuthe bold is bigger than this?13:27
ikoniayes13:27
ikoniawider13:27
ikoniafatter13:27
elkbuntuugh13:27
ikoniaa tad taller, although I'm not certain about that13:27
elkbuntuMyrtti, i've lasted years with a 3310s then a samsung e720. i deserve this phone, goddamit13:28
Myrttiyes, you do13:29
ikoniaI'm never normally giddy about phones, but this is worth it13:29
elkbuntuikonia, totally agreed.13:29
elkbuntuit's a phone that will fill the gap for numerous years to come13:30
ikoniayes, 13:30
ikoniaI can't see me changing for a while13:30
elkbuntuwifi [x]  3g [x]  kitchen sink [ ]13:31
elkbuntuputty [x]  irc [x]13:32
Myrttithough...13:32
MyrttiI have 5Mpix camera.13:32
Myrttiso...13:32
MyrttiI'm actually happy with mine.13:32
elkbuntu:)13:33
elkbuntusee, you'd never survive with a piddly 3.2mpx13:33
MyrttiI wouldn't13:33
Myrttias I don't own a camera13:33
MyrttiN96 on the other hand...13:33
elkbuntudo i need to slap you out of this, or suggest the iphone?13:34
Myrttino, I'm just teasing myself13:34
MyrttiI still have a year left in my contract13:34
elkbuntu:)13:34
Myrttithough I could sell my phone right now and buy a new one13:34
* elkbuntu bought hers outright13:35
Myrttiit's not sim locked after all13:35
elky_e71i just realised, i haven't even made a phonecall on this yet13:38
elky_e71surely i need more software on this than just putty and jmirc though...13:42
Myrttilocation tagger, mobbler, smsscheduler, screenshot tool, gmail13:43
elkbuntulocation tagger? mobbler? why would i want to schedule sms's?13:43
MyrttiI couldn't do without mobbler...13:44
Myrtti*shrug*13:44
elkbuntulocation tagger for pics, aha.13:44
elkbuntuah, mobbler is internet radio13:44
MyrttiI can ask one of my friend who was developing e71 what she has on  her phone13:50
elky_e71you can,we likely have different tastes though13:54
elky_e71anyway, gnite13:54
Myrttihttp://jaiku.com/channel/Nokia/presence/4903988913:59
ikoniaelkbuntu: look at lifematta, 14:48
ikoniaMyrtti: I'd be interested14:48
tockitjis it posible to see milestones in future development of ubuntu ? :p14:54
ikoniaUDS has not appened yet14:55
ikoniaso the next release has not been defined 14:55
ikoniathere are blueprints though, and you'd be better asking in #ubuntu-devel14:55
ikoniatockitj: anything else you need help with ?14:57
ikoniatockitj: hello ?14:58
ikoniatockitj: hello ?15:00
bazhang!idle | tockitj 15:01
ubottutockitj: Please keep in mind that this channel is for operator/abuse questions only, and we ask you to part when you have no further business here, in order to keep track of users with pending inquiries.15:01
tockitjikonia, thanks :-)15:04
tockitjthat was helpfull, I will part now15:04
bazhang@bansearch a15:26
ubottuNo matches found for a!n=a@86.46.86.160 in any channel15:26
LjLbazhang: i have a feeling that will change soon15:27
bazhangLjL, he was trolling in #kubuntu yesterday; spamming a multi-line song (can I sing a song...)15:28
LjLbazhang: did you intend to ban a?15:38
bazhangLjL, yes15:38
LjLbazhang: then you haven't banned his latest host, but a previous one. check the /whowas15:38
bazhangdid I make some error?15:38
LjLbazhang: look at your bansearch output above15:39
bazhangthe /whowas has no listing LjL 15:39
Frogging101hi15:39
LjLbazhang: let's talk about it later15:39
LjLFrogging101: hi15:39
LjLFrogging101, on freenode ops get +o on request, yes15:40
LjLas for your previous question, the floodbots are there to stop people from flooding, as you found out yourself by... flooding15:41
LjLi recommend you avoid such tests in the future as #ubuntu is a busy channel15:41
Myrttido I want to know the story behind this?15:41
LjLMyrtti: not much of a story15:42
Myrttinoted15:42
LjLFrogging101: any more ops questions?15:45
Frogging101LjL: Why are you an op?15:46
LjLFrogging101: because other ops chose me as one some time ago.15:47
Frogging101Cool15:47
bazhang[a] (n=a@86.46.86.160): a  that was the correct one; the one I did was: [a] (n=a@aari209.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl  <--should I remove it?15:47
bazhangnot sure how that happened though15:48
LjLbazhang: leave them both for now, the .pl host reminds me of something too15:48
LjLi'll remove it if my logs prove me wrong15:48
bazhangLjL, okay thanks. not sure how that could have happened though15:48
LjL"a" can probably be a common nickname, but i'm not excluding it's the same person in this case15:48
LjLbazhang: your client probably was confused15:49
bazhangLjL, thanks15:49
LjLbazhang: which only goes to show that the latter hostname is also suspicious15:49
LjLbazhang: anyway, /whowas a does show stuff for me15:49
bazhang[a] (n=a@217.119.119.77): a that is what I get for /whowas15:50
LjLbazhang: 15:55
LjL[16:41:53] [314] a n=a 86.46.86.160 * a [16:41:54] [Whois] a is online via irc.freenode.net (Sun Nov 16 15:36:01 2008).15:55
LjL[16:41:54] [314] a n=a 217.119.119.77 * a [16:41:54] [Whois] a is online via irc.freenode.net (Sun Nov 16 14:16:22 2008).15:55
LjL[16:41:54] [314] a n=a 217.119.119.77 * a [16:41:54] [Whois] a is online via irc.freenode.net (Sun Nov 16 14:16:00 2008).15:55
LjL[16:41:54] [314] a n=a aari209.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl * Java User [16:41:54] [Whois] a is online via irc.freenode.net (Sun Nov 16 12:36:33 2008).15:55
bazhangwow15:55
bazhang<faria_> Good dA_ShArP  <--keeps randomly doing that when people pose questions15:57
LjLbazhang: anyway the .pl one was never in #ubuntu, so i don't know what happened15:57
bazhangLjL, pehaps related to chanserv.py15:57
LjLbazhang: yes, it probably looked at /whowas because the fellow had already left when you banned15:58
LjLbazhang: and got it wrong15:58
bazhangLjL, aha that would explain it perhaps15:58
bazhangready to +m faria_15:59
Myrttimwahaha15:59
bazhanghehe15:59
LjLbazhang: is a bot15:59
bazhangno I'm not!16:00
ubottuNovalgina2Fast called the ops in #kubuntu ()16:00
Myrttiand it disconnected already?16:00
bazhangfor help with realmedia16:01
ubottuNotADJ called the ops in #ubuntu ()16:08
Myrttikrish__: do you want me to calculate how small precentage of the population of this channel has changed in between your questions to point how useless it is to repeat that question over and over again?16:12
Myrttialmost, almost pressed enter16:12
bazhangerr you did press enter16:13
MyrttiI did.16:14
MyrttiHOW can someone install mediawiki and not know how to access logs?16:15
MyrttiI'm baffled16:15
Myrttiplease, please tell me I'm dreaming16:15
LjLwho's doing the k-lines? there's still two users with ircap ident and realname in #ubuntu, unsure whether they're clones or just people using that script16:25
LjLoh, lika and chema probably *were* clonebots after all16:28
LjL[17:28:30] <-- lika has left this server (" [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][").16:29
LjL[17:28:30] <-- chema has left this server (" [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][").16:29
bazhang@bansearch matthew_17:05
ubottuNo matches found for matthew_!n=matthew@cpe-74-69-58-11.rochester.res.rr.com in any channel17:05
ikoniabazhang: didn't you ban him last night ?17:09
bazhangikonia, I removed him only17:10
ikoniaah17:10
bazhangikonia, I think he should be watched though17:10
bazhanghe sent me a very nasty PM when I !coc him17:10
bazhangdoes everyone one have attention deficit disorder?17:21
bazhangerr -one17:21
Myrttione just has to love rsync17:26
Myrttiwould someone look at the mutes and bans in #ubuntu17:46
Myrttisome of them might be a bit stale17:46
Myrttior should I crack open my xchat and see17:46
bazhangthe only bans I have are well deserved ie very few17:46
jussi01Morning all!17:47
bazhanghi!17:47
ikoniamorning 17:47
jussi01its 4.30am and I cant sleep...17:47
ikoniathats early17:48
jussi01ikonia: my rhythm is screwed...17:48
bazhangnetyire in -ot17:49
jussi01again?17:50
bazhanghe will not stop.17:50
bazhangafter repeated warnings.17:50
Tm_Thi hi jussi01 17:50
ikoniajussi01: I can imagine17:50
jussi01Tm_T: heya17:50
Tm_Tjussi01: baby came17:50
jussi01Tm_T: great! alls well?17:50
bazhangcongrats Tm_T !17:50
Tm_Tyup17:50
Picibleh18:21
Myrttiglögi ♥ 18:32
Tm_Tawww18:32
Tm_Twhat should I drink18:32
MyrttiI bought half a kilo of French roast coffee18:43
Myrttinomnomnomnomnom18:43
Mezhmm - asus-tek just tried to add me on facebook18:48
jussi01hehe18:48
Tm_Tsome people do use facebork?18:48
MyrttiMez: I just the other day removed *and* blocked him from my friends list18:50
Myrttihe is *super* creepy18:50
MezMyrtti: but I don't even know him...18:50
MezI've never spoke to you18:50
Myrttihe is weird18:50
Myrttistrange puppy18:51
Tm_TMez: you never spoke to who?18:51
MyrttiASUS-tek18:51
Tm_T2050.44 <+Mez> I've never spoke to you18:51
Tm_T(;)18:51
Mezs/you/him/18:52
Tm_T(:18:52
jdongwhom.18:52
jussi01oh my... he is adding me to facebook also...18:52
Myrttiwait until he adds you to your skype roster18:53
Myrttithen you're in trouble18:53
Myrttithat's when I freaked out.18:53
MezMyrtti: thats why I don't accept these people in the first place18:54
jussi01I rejected the request...18:54
MyrttiMez: I did accept him with limited access to my info in facebook18:54
MyrttiI did decline his request for skype though.18:55
Myrttiif you want the log, I've got it in pastebin in notime18:55
PriceChildclick ignore?xs18:55
MezMyrtti: nah, no issue... I just wouldnt accept the FB request in the first place (even with limited) - if I don't know and trust them, they don't get access (and my family have limited access!)18:56
Myrttimm18:56
Myrttinow, what was I really doing18:57
MezMyrtti: procrastinating?>18:58
Myrttiyes, thats it18:58
Myrttiprocrastinating filing hours18:58
Myrttibut you fellows can be my guest in trying to explain to him why I don't want him cyberstalking me19:08
MyrttiI didn't seem to get my message through with him19:08
ikoniawho is cyber stalking you ?19:09
ubottujoaopinto called the ops in #ubuntu ()19:10
Tm_Tikonia: I am19:11
Myrttiikonia: I seem to have my fanclub19:11
ikoniacould be worse....19:11
PriceChildjussi01: he'd done a nasty -R command earlier too.19:11
MyrttiVinterbound, ASUS-tek etc.19:11
jussi01PriceChild: ahh19:11
PriceChildresorted to the stallman being gay thing when nobody did anything19:11
ikoniait ammuses me how people think that it is a bad thing, if stallman was gay ?19:12
ikonianot sure how that would effect the software he wrote19:12
jussi01PriceChild: I was trying to find anything else he said before deciding on a remove or ban19:12
Myrttijussi01: you and your silly quassel.19:12
PriceChildjussi01: "/lastlog nick" is your friend :D19:13
Myrttijussi01: get a proper client, like irssi.19:13
PriceChildnot just irssi that does that right?19:13
MyrttiPriceChild+19:13
Myrtti119:13
MyrttiPriceChild: who cares. Thou shall not have other clients.19:13
Myrtti:-D19:13
jussi01PriceChild: Myrtti we have an equvalent, but its 6.15 am, and im not the quickest at this time19:13
* jussi01 growls19:14
Myrttijussi01: excuses schmexcuses19:14
PriceChildjussi01: "back in aus" now?19:14
jussi01PriceChild: yeah19:14
jussi01on holiday19:14
ikoniaPriceChild: jussi01 IS an aussie19:14
ikoniait is confirmed19:14
jussi01:D19:14
PriceChildjussi01: ah on a holiday, visited before?19:15
Myrtti*snork*19:15
PriceChildI'm done now.19:15
jussi01/ar PriceChild out!!!19:15
jussi01:D19:15
* Myrtti pours a tub of vegemite on jussi01 19:15
Myrttinomnom. savory19:15
jussi01lol19:16
MyrttiI wonder what I'll do that little jar of marmite I've got now19:16
Myrttiwould it do nicely in trying to fix holes in my wall?19:16
jussi01no19:16
Myrttidamn19:17
MyrttiI'm sure the guinea pigs wouldn't like it either19:17
Myrttitoo salty anyway19:17
jussi01actually they might19:17
jussi01some animals, like rabbits also, really likesalt19:17
jussi01You can buy salt blocks for them to lick19:18
MyrttiI know19:18
MezMyrtti: marmite jars make great ballistic missiles19:19
geniiGood afternoon, evening, or morning19:36
jussi01genii: I needs coffee...19:37
* genii hands jussi01 a large Kubuntu mug of coffee ....19:37
Myrttioooh, coffeee!!!!!11119:37
jussi01thanks!19:38
* genii puts on a large pot of coffee so everyone can have some19:38
geniiMyrtti: Moin :)19:38
* Tm_T hides19:38
geniiHeh19:39
* Myrtti goes to make some *real* French roast and smiles at genii19:42
Myrttiwant to try ;-)19:43
geniiMyrtti: Thanks, but I'm one of those pizza leftovers for breakfast people19:43
Myrttiso am I19:43
MyrttiI just drink so little coffee I prefer the little I drink to be actually good19:44
geniiAh19:44
Myrttiand I like my coffee with milk, and no other roast fits with milk as well as Parisien19:45
geniiFrench toast with real maple syrup is good. Almost worth foregoing the pizza for, in fact19:45
geniiMyrtti: For some reson I misread "roast" for "toast". Never mind me, I still need more caffeine... ;)19:46
Tm_Tgenii: have a pint of coffee with me19:47
Myrttigenii: and I misread your french toast with real maple syrup as french roast, and didn't even blink19:57
Tm_Taww19:58
* genii sips from the pint of coffee supplied by Tm_T19:59
Tm_Tgenii: I'm father now, you see20:00
* Myrtti drinks her french roast with milk and vanilla from a bowl20:00
genii?20:00
* Myrtti returns to filing hours20:00
MyrttiTm_T: no pics yet?20:00
Tm_TMyrtti: I do, but have to find a way to get 'em20:01
Myrttiah20:01
genii#ubuntu seems hopping20:08
Tm_Tno working bluetooth, no working way to retrieve pics via usb either20:10
Tm_Toh boy...20:10
Myrttiwould anyone have a good set of nice options to put in fstab for mounting nfs stuff? I've got user,_netdev,exec,sync already20:22
geniinodev20:23
Myrttirw?20:23
geniirw or not is set on the nfs server export, usually20:24
Myrttitrue20:24
MyrttiI think that's good.20:25
Myrttidouh20:26
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Myrttiomg. I haz pink-bliss.el in my console emacs.21:11
dethklokhello. for some reason I have been banned in the main chat for ubuntu on freenode. I don't remember any innopropriate discussion in the chat? could someone tell me what happened?21:24
jrib@bansearch dethklok21:24
ubottuNo matches found for dethklok!i=dethklok@modemcable037.53-83-70.mc.videotron.ca in any channel21:24
Tm_Tdethklok: your realname21:24
Tm_Trealname "fuck you" isn't quite appropriate21:25
dethklokoh sorry 21:25
dethkloklol 21:25
dethklokI was a bit drunk when I installed the irc app 21:25
Tm_Tthat's not an excuse21:26
dethklokok so if I change it, it will be ok?21:26
Tm_Tshould be21:27
dethklokok thank you 21:27
MyrttiI bought a leek today. I considered for a full minute of doing my own version of leekspin. I'm sick in my head.21:48
MyrttiQED.21:48
Tm_Tok21:48
Tm_Tjussi01: slow, you (;21:56
jussi01Tm_T: awww... give me a chance!21:56
Tm_Tjussi01: I don't, when I'm at it21:56
jussi01Was waiting for one last one...21:56
geniiThe guy did have a point but was being pretty snide21:57
Tm_Tpoint or not, rudeness is nogo21:57
geniiYes, true21:57
Myrttihttp://dev.rssowl.org/show_bug.cgi?id=832 <-- hehehe21:58
MyrttiI'm a meanie21:58
ubottudev.rssowl.org bug 832 in general "Licence not defined / easily found *anywhere*" [Normal,Closed: fixed]21:58
Myrttiafter six months, it got fixed.21:59
Picijrib: Do you always remove with the appear process in the messagE?22:04
jribPici: I started to a few days ago22:04
Picijrib: Ah.  First time I've noticed it.22:05
Myrttinice document, that22:05
ubottuIn #ubuntu-offtopic, dmsuperman said: !ljl is i don't have a factoid, and i won't ever have a factoid22:19
jussi01ikonia: ping?22:22
ikoniajussi01: what's up22:36
LjLikonia:  23:37:03 up  8:52,  2 users,  load average: 0.52, 0.50, 0.6822:37
ikoniaLjL: touch'e22:37
Commie_Caryhello, why dosnt ubottu know who linus is22:44
Tm_Twhy should it?22:44
Tm_T!linus22:45
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about linus22:45
FlannelCommie_Cary: feel free to submit a factoid22:45
PriceChildFlannel: why?22:45
LjL!scope22:45
Tm_TFlannel: IMHO it is not needed22:45
ubottuWe don't need factoids for *everything* ;)22:45
LjL!wikipedia22:45
ubottuwikipedia is a free online encyclopedia, you can find it at http://wikipedia.org22:45
FlannelI never said we did need one.22:45
FlannelBut, regardless of need, people are free to submit factoids they think we ought to have.22:45
Tm_TFlannel: but you didn't answer to original question either =)22:45
Tm_Ttrue that22:45
PriceChildI think it'd be a better use of everyone's time to question the need of one, than ask someone to sbumit it, then question it.22:46
FlannelPriceChild: Why do you think we ought not to have a Torvalds one?22:47
LjLbecause it's got nothing to do with ubuntu22:47
LjLubotu isn't an encyclopedia22:47
Flannel!debian22:47
LjLit contains support information relating to ubuntu22:47
ubottuUbuntu and Debian are closely related. Ubuntu builds on the foundations of Debian architecture and infrastructure, with a different community and release process. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship - Remember, !repositories meant for Debian should NOT be used on Ubuntu!22:47
PiciJust ask yourselves how many times you think someone has already requested the factoid or how many it will be requested in the future.22:47
PiciRequested the factoid from the bot, that is.22:47
FlannelLjL: Historical Data is relevant. I'd argue (not that this means much), that a Linus factoid is much more relevant than a wikipedia one.22:47
LjLFlannel: that's a disambiguation factoid, which exist because people confuse debian and ubuntu22:48
LjLFlannel: indeed, the !wikipedia factoid is outside ubotu's scope22:48
FlannelLjL: Yeah, I was expecting a bit different.22:48
LjLpretty ironically22:48
LjLand i think that was intended too22:48
Flannel!rms22:48
ubotturms is Richard Matthew Stallman, founder of the GNU project. See !gnu and also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Stallman22:48
LjLwell that's a factoid that obviously escaped my attention22:49
FlannelI don't see what harm would come from having a linus factoid either.22:49
LjL!forget rms22:49
ubottuI'll forget that, LjL22:49
jribwell there's a bug in ubottu22:49
Pici!bug22:49
ubottuIf you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots22:49
jribyeah yeah yeah, after dinner :)22:50
Pici:)22:50
LjLFlannel: what harm would come? no direct harm. only the indirect harm that people would naturally feel legitimized to add less and less relevant factoids.22:50
FlannelLjL: honestly, What harm comes from linus and rms factoids?  You just said it yourself, they're hardly ever called.22:50
LjLthe ubotu database is finite (and i'm sure the admins would like to keep it that way), and its search features are only useful if there's not a million factoids to search from22:51
FlannelLjL: Ubottu is about educating people.  A framework and some background is an important part of being an active member of any community.22:51
PriceChildIf they're hardly ever called, what's the point?22:51
LjLalso, when people fish the bot by typing random factoids in #ubuntu, they shouldn't be rewarded by the factoid actually existing22:51
FlannelLjL: technical solutions to social problems aren't solutions.22:52
Commie_Cary!ext422:52
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about ext422:52
Commie_Cary!ext322:52
ubottuext3 is the default filesystem on Ubuntu, and the most popular on Linux. You can read/write from Windows to ext3 via http://www.fs-driver.org22:52
PiciRMS has been called in the past, at least in -offtopic22:52
PriceChildFlannel: I disagree.22:52
LjL!rms-#ubuntu-offtopic is <reply> Richard Matthew Stallman, founder of the GNU project. See !GNU and also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Stallman22:52
ubottuI'll remember that, LjL22:52
LjLand i disagree too22:52
PriceChildFlannel: ubottu isn't a replacement for real education from real people. Bot answers are hardly ever exact to someone's individual situation.22:52
FlannelPriceChild: fishing for a factoid is a different problem than having a hit.22:52
PriceChildTHey're normally really useful because they contain that one nugget which is hard to remember, and contributes.22:52
PiciOR something small that often gets requested.22:53
PriceChildyeah, just something we cba to type out 10 times a day22:53
Flanneler, not a differnet problem.  But gettig a hit has nothing to do with whether or not youre fishing.22:53
Commie_Cary Richard Matthew Stallman looks like marx22:59
PiciCommie_Cary: Is there anything else we can help you with?23:01
MyrttiCommie_Cary: quick quick, I haven't got my share of kicks filled yet23:02
MyrttiI'm running behind my quota23:02
LjLMyrtti: soft quota or hard quota?23:03
PiciSshh! Quotas are supposed to be a myth!23:03
LjLoh right sorry23:03
Myrttioops23:03
Myrttieenie meenie miney moe...23:04
Myrttitick... tock... tick... tock...23:05
LjLMyrtti: you still using analog clocks?23:05
MyrttiLjL: very much so23:05
LjLi can't read analog clocks.23:05
MyrttiLjL: http://flickr.com/photos/myrtti/2493743685/23:05
MyrttiI can't do digital23:06
Myrttithat's why I've got analog one as a screenlet on my desktops23:06
LjLwhen i was 12, a mean teacher shock-trained me into learning to tie my shoelaces23:06
LjLbut they never, never managed analog clocks on me.23:06
Commie_CaryPici, helping me upgrade from ext3 to ext423:10
LjLCommie_Cary, /topic23:11
Myrttithis little piggie went to market23:12
LjLoh come on, you're better than a piggie.23:13
LjLslightly.23:13
Pici:)23:14
LjLMyrtti: the confusion due to that kick ruined my game of globulation!23:33
Myrttioh dear23:33
LjL(from the bestseller book of excuses "Why I never won at Globulation")23:33

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