[00:11] <DaveDixonII> I have a problem
[00:12] <DaveDixonII> http://pastebin.com/d6dbb6ede
[00:19] <boerni> Hallo
[00:20] <boerni> Ich habe hier in Virtualbox xubuntu installiert. Ich hab am Gastsystem einen UMTS Stick und eine DSL16k leitung. xubuntu soll in der vm nur über die UMTS leitung laufen. wie stell ich das am besten an? das hostsystem ist gentoo linux
[00:22] <DaveDixonII> boerni: 	
[00:22] <DaveDixonII> Ich nicht sprechen Deutsch
[00:25] <boerni> german xubuntu support channel avaiable?
[00:25] <DaveDixonII> there is #ubuntu-de
[00:26] <L_Ryuzaki> hi
[01:11] <L_Ryuzaki> hi piju
[01:30] <Icomey> Howdy.
[01:34] <Icomey> I'm trying to share a folder with my roommates Windows XP computer, and I don't know where to start
[02:29] <zmjjmz> Much quieter :)
[02:30] <zmjjmz> Anyone know how to get a Broadcom 4306 working in Intrepid?
[02:45] <zmjjmz> Nvm, google helped me
[03:28] <thekanclub> hi
[03:28] <thekanclub> does anyone know how to mount windows partition
[03:44]  * DaveDixonII is sleeping. do not disturb.
[04:17] <kids> I just switched from Kubuntu to Xubuntu. I have a storage hard drive that is a Sata drive and I can't seem to access it. Any suggestions.
[04:19] <kids> Is anyone in Xubuntu to help?
[04:19] <abhishek> ATI drivers ftl... :(
[04:19] <kids> pardon
[04:20] <abhishek> I'm having trouble getting ATi drivers for my radeon 2600m
[04:21] <abhishek> my screen looks like a tv getting bad reception.. :\
[04:21] <kids> I'm not sure about that. I'm trying to get xubuntu to recognize my SATA drive.
[04:21] <abhishek> I'm not sure which is worse...
[04:21] <abhishek> It worked before when I had Ubuntu 8.04 on Wubi
[04:22] <abhishek> but if I install the restricted driver that Xubuntu gives me, the login screen doesn't even show up... just a black screen.
[05:10] <kids> Anyone know how to get shockwave player plugin into firefox?
[05:30] <Ahmuck> www.adobe.com
[05:40] <engbyrew> I have a question about desktop environments...
[05:41] <engbyrew> If I load KDE on an Xubuntu machine, how do I switch to the KDE?
[05:42] <engbyrew> Can I set it up to ask me which desktop to load upon boot-up?
[07:23] <afner03> hello
[07:23] <afner03> is there anybody outthere?
[07:24] <afner03> I have a question... who knows which is the default username and password for xubuntuś live cd
[07:24] <afner03> ?
[07:38] <afner03> ??
[10:32] <volo> hi
[10:52] <hhh2> hi do u know a linux gui xfce/gnome irc client ?
[10:52] <hhh2> not xchat
[10:52] <hhh2> now i try tinyirc but there are no colors
[10:56] <hhh2> and it's in terminal
[11:01] <hhh2> quassel
[11:01] <hhh2> from synaptic
[11:03] <PsiTrax> hey guys
[11:03] <PsiTrax> im struggling with vnc for running x-session
[11:03] <PsiTrax> but X could not load the libvnc.so because of dlopen: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libvnc.so: undefined symbol: NumCurrentSelections
[11:04] <PsiTrax> googl knows only a bug report, can i use tightvnc for this too?
[12:28] <pedrito> Hello. I am a new Linux user. I have successfully installed Xubuntu in an IBM Thinkpad600. However the only hardware that was not recognized was the audio card (CS4239). I have found this page to how to configure the card but I fell a bitt loss. Here is the link to the page http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/CS4239
[12:29] <pedrito> How can I  install the Linux ALSA driver for the CS4239 card?
[12:35] <ubd> xfce thinks that i have 2 screens how do i fix this
[12:53] <Necrosan> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8-6eAYHOBE
[12:59] <abec> hi all, i have a java process thath sucks me costantly around 30% of the memory, anyone know how can i see what is it doing?
[13:01] <abec> oh ok i think i found it, it is working for azureus....
[13:02] <TheSheep> Necrosan: go to #xubuntu-offtopic
[13:05] <TheSheep> pedrito: try the command: sudo modprobe snd-cs4236
[13:06] <pedrito> TheSheep: Hi.
[13:06] <pedrito> TheSheep: the module is not installed. I found information how to install the module
[13:06] <abec> other question: how is thath possile that there isn't  the program "mail" on xubuntu?
[13:07] <pedrito> TheSheep: @ the http://www.alsa-project.org site
[13:07] <abec> neither in apt
[13:07] <TheSheep> abec: because it's a desktop distribution, not server?
[13:07] <TheSheep> abec: you can install it
[13:07] <TheSheep> pedrito: ok
[13:07] <pedrito> TheSheep: I am currently installing the drivers following the on site instructions
[13:08] <TheSheep> pedrito: good luck
[13:08] <pedrito> TheSheep: Thanks a lot for the attention :)
[13:08] <TheSheep> abec: it's in mailutils packagae
[13:12] <abec> does that mean that i have to add some repo?
[13:15] <TheSheep> abec: no, you just have to install the mailutils package
[13:17] <abec> TheSheep: ah ok, thanks:)
[13:53] <pedrito> TheSheep: Errors found on the installation of snd-cs4236 (the driver module compatible with cs4239)
[13:55] <pedrito> TheSheep: When I run "sudo modprobe snd-cs4236" the terminal opens a virtual keyboard, and when I close such window the terminal shows the following information:/usr/local/sbin/soundcard-on: line 6: the: command not found
[13:55] <pedrito> /usr/local/sbin/soundcard-on: line 18: syntax error near unexpected token `)'
[13:55] <pedrito> /usr/local/sbin/soundcard-on: line 18: `turned off)'
[13:55] <pedrito> FATAL: Error running install command for snd_cs4236
[13:56] <pedrito> TheSheep: the compiler shows erros during the ALSA-utils module compilation
[13:58] <pedrito> TheSheep: I followed the instructions shown in the site: http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Module-cs4236
[14:17] <pedrito> someone with experience with compilation of ALSA drivers?
[14:23] <vidd> pedrito, the drivers built into the kernel dont work?
[14:29] <pedrito> vidd: the module is not recognized automatically and is also not found in the distribution
[14:29] <pedrito> vidd: I when to the ALSA project site and found there the instructions for installation
[14:30] <pedrito> vidd: http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Module-cs4236
[14:30] <pedrito> vidd: However at the moment of alsa-utils installation I get many errors
[14:31] <pedrito>  When I run "sudo modprobe snd-cs4236" the terminal opens a virtual keyboard, and when I close such window the terminal shows the following information:/usr/local/sbin/soundcard-on: line 6: the: command not found<pedrito> /usr/local/sbin/soundcard-on: line 18: syntax error near unexpected token `)'<pedrito> /usr/local/sbin/soundcard-on: line 18: `turned off)<pedrito> FATAL: Error running install command for snd_cs4236
[14:31] <pedrito> vidd:  When I run "sudo modprobe snd-cs4236" the terminal opens a virtual keyboard, and when I close such window the terminal shows the following information:/usr/local/sbin/soundcard-on: line 6: the: command not found<pedrito> /usr/local/sbin/soundcard-on: line 18: syntax error near unexpected token `)'<pedrito> /usr/local/sbin/soundcard-on: line 18: `turned off)<pedrito> FATAL: Error running install command for snd_cs4236
[14:31] <vidd> pedrito, i can read
[14:32] <pedrito> vidd: sorry again :(
[14:32] <vidd> please pastebin the errors you get when you try to compile
[14:32] <vidd> !pastebin | pedrito
[14:34] <pedrito> vidd: how I can do that? How can I capture the result of "sudo ./configure ; sudo make ; sudo make install" ?
[14:35] <vidd> pedrito, you dont make as root
[14:35] <vidd> that is what likely caused your issue
[14:35] <vinnl> vidd, you also don't configure as root, right? Only "make install"
[14:36] <pedrito> vidd: ok I will try to do that without sudo. I will let you know
[14:36] <vidd> vinnl, its been a LONG time since i compiled from sourse
[14:36] <vinnl> vidd, yeah, here as well
[14:36] <vidd> pedrito, only sudo the make install
[14:36] <vinnl> But I suppose configure just checks whether your system can handle it, while make install. well, installs it system-wide :)
[14:36] <pedrito> vidd: thanks
[14:37] <vinnl> Though I don't suppose sudo ./configure and sudo make should cause problems
[14:37] <vidd> and if you sudo make...then only root can use it
[14:39] <vidd> i know it causes some kind of compile error that make install cant overcome
[14:40] <pedrito> vidd: I got the result... I got many errors. How can send you the result of pastebin?
[14:40] <vidd> pedrito, are you in a windowed environment?
[14:40] <pedrito> yes
[14:40] <pedrito> vidd: xfce
[14:41] <pedrito> vidd: my terminal emulator is mrxvt
[14:41] <vidd> IDK how to copy from that terminal emulator
[14:42] <vidd> but you need to be able to copy its output
[14:42] <vinnl> Select, right click, copy?
[14:42] <vidd> and if removing all the stuff you did b4 and recompiling correctly does not fix the issue, i dont know what will
[14:42] <pedrito> vidd: vinnl: yes I know that... can I past all that here in the irc?
[14:43] <vinnl> pedrito, no, paste it at the pastebin then post the link here
[14:43] <vidd> pedrito, absolutely NOT!
[14:43] <pedrito> vidd: ok I got it.
[14:43] <vidd> hence why i said "PASTEBIN
[14:43] <pedrito> vidd: http://paste.ubuntu.com/72889/
[14:43] <vidd> !pastebin | pedrito
[14:43] <pedrito> vinnl: http://paste.ubuntu.com/72889/
[14:45] <vidd> pedrito, what is the permissions and owner of the ./config file?
[14:45] <vinnl> vidd, ah, he's not in his home directory...
[14:45] <vinnl> So I suppose he'd need to do it as root :P
[14:45] <vidd> but he CAN'T do it as root
[14:46] <pedrito> vidd: -rwxr-xr-x  1 root root 575938 2008-11-12 11:04 configure
[14:46] <vidd> he needs to get the directory into his home directory, chown it to himself, and run it
[14:46] <vidd> probably needs to chmod it to 777 too
[14:47] <pedrito> vidd: so I need to move the /usr/src/alsa to ~/pmsalves/   ?
[14:48] <pedrito> vidd: to do all the compilation from source from my home user directory?
[14:48] <kids> Any idea why I can't get my SATA drive to be found in Xubuntu?
[14:49] <pedrito> vidd: I followed the instructions stated on the ALSA project site...  :(
[14:50] <pedrito> vidd: I will try again everything again.
[15:00] <vidd> pedrito, when you do the ./config, the make and the make install.....
[15:00] <vidd> do them one at atime
[15:01] <vidd> if you mash them together like ya did before, your error logs will be harder to read and trace
[15:06] <pedrito> vidd: ok ...
[15:07] <pedrito> vidd: here is the result of make install as root. ./configure and make as normal user http://paste.ubuntu.com/72900/
[15:08] <vidd> kids, is it an internal or external drive? and was it there when you installed?
[15:11] <vidd> pedrito, you see those .ko files that the command cant find?
[15:12] <pedrito> vidd: yes I see...
[15:13] <pedrito> vidd: it appears to be the problem... however I have no idea how to solve that...
[15:14] <slow-motion> hi
[15:14] <vidd> find where they are on your system and put them into your /lib/modules/2.6.24-21-generic/kernel/sound/acore folder
[15:14] <vidd> hellow slow-motion
[15:14] <pedrito> vidd: thanks for the tip
[15:15] <slow-motion> hi vidd
[15:19] <slow-motion> can listen also plays webradios that use *.pls files?
[15:20] <vidd> every release they add more worthless trash to the default install
[15:20] <vidd> how many media playes do they think we need?
[15:22] <vidd> slow-motion, dunno about listen....but libxine1-plugin and libxine-ffmpeg will let firefox and gxine play them
[15:23] <vidd> i think that god-awful tavasty gstreamer has a package that will let totem play it too
[15:23] <slow-motion>  <vidd> how many media playes do they think we need? < one for tv (default install of course) would be nice *veg*
[15:23] <slow-motion> yes i played them with totem before "listen"
[15:23] <vidd> slow-motion, how many computers have tv cards?
[15:24] <vinnl> slow-motion, have you seen Mythbuntu? :)
[15:24] <vidd> you want that crap, you go get myth
[15:24] <slow-motion> i used totem for dvb-t
[15:25] <slow-motion> much handmade stuff and a playlist with the stations
[15:25]  * vidd has always used xine-based stuff...cuzz it works and is light
[15:26] <vidd> gstreamer takes half of what xine has and M$-sizes it
[15:26] <slow-motion> mplayer was xine too?
[15:27] <vidd> dunno...i use gxine front-end
[15:28]  * vidd picked up the mantle for xine-over-gstreamer back in breezy.....
[15:29] <vidd> they may have made significant improvements to gstreamer since then...but i dont care....xine has always done what i needed it to
[15:30] <slow-motion> i need to get dvbt running again
[15:30]  * vidd thinks the devels need to realize that "hey....there is still room left on the live cd" is no excuse to add more apps that do the same thing
[15:31] <slow-motion> and i case of this distri they get payed
[15:31] <slow-motion> i think
[15:32] <vidd> i never heard of transmissions until i had to track it down and purge it in HH, and i never heard of listen until you asked about it (and i realize i have to cut that out too)
[15:33] <vinnl> vidd, there was no alternative to Transmission installed already
[15:33] <vinnl> And Totem is supposed to be a movie player, listen an audio player
[15:34] <vidd> vinnl, and there is still no compelling reason for it to be on the default install either
[15:34] <vinnl> vidd, how about that people use it?
[15:34] <vidd> totem is a media player...music, movies, tv, dvds, etc
[15:34] <vinnl> Yeah but they label it as "Movie" player, and it's not really designed to manage your music collection, is it?
[15:34] <vidd> vinnl, its in the repos....so its mindless to add
[15:35] <slow-motion> some time ago i played dvds with totem. even with the dvd menue
[15:35] <vinnl> vidd, Xfce is in the repos
[15:35] <vinnl> slow-motion, nice, it can do that already? :)
[15:35] <slow-motion> yes i think i got it running. but dont remember how
[15:36] <vidd> vinnl, you darn well that xfce is a hefty collection of apps
[15:36] <vinnl> vidd, OK, then Firefox is in the reps.
[15:36] <vinnl> slow-motion, you probably used Xine as backend :P
[15:37] <vidd> vinnl, a web browser has been a standard componant of OS's since 94
[15:37] <vidd> sorry....98
[15:37] <vinnl> vidd, yeah, so? Why does that make it a valid component? People didn't do BitTorrent in '98
[15:38] <vinnl> But they do now
[15:38] <vidd> vinnl, you expect ppl to get assistance from google searches
[15:38] <vinnl> *sigh*
[15:38] <vinnl> vidd, so what about Abiword then?
[15:39] <vidd> without some kind of browser out of the box, you get no google searches
[15:39] <vidd> vinnl, another piece of bloat
[15:39] <vidd> xfce comes with mousepad
[15:39] <vinnl> vidd, OK, so Firefox is the only useful application on Xubuntu?
[15:39] <vidd> thunderbird
[15:39] <vinnl> So why do you need Mousepad? You can Google on how to install a text editor, right?
[15:39] <vidd> mousepad, thunar
[15:39] <vinnl> Or on how to install Thunderbird
[15:40] <slow-motion> i dont know why there are so many default games
[15:40] <vidd> slow-motion, its all one package
[15:41] <vidd> it was an "all or none" thing
[15:41] <slow-motion> that new audio recorder is a nice idea. but listen can be removed
[15:42] <vidd> and why is there no default IRC client?
[15:42] <vidd> and dont start that crap about "pidgin is for IRC"
[15:42] <vinnl> So now IRC is used more often than BitTorrent?
[15:42] <slow-motion> i preefer dosbox and a good java interface to play games
[15:42] <vinnl> (Xchat is in Intrepid btw)
[15:42] <vidd> lets see....how do you get support?
[15:42] <slow-motion> xchat is nice as a default client
[15:42] <pedrito> vidd: Sorry to interrupt our discussions. New problems now on alsa-utils... here is the output of "make" http://paste.ubuntu.com/72910/
[15:43] <vinnl> That doesn't mean more people need it
[15:43] <vidd> we get support with email, web pages, and irc
[15:43] <vinnl> I'm not saying you shouldn't include an IRC client, I'm saying if you include that, why not include a BitTorrent client?
[15:44] <vinnl> Xubuntu doesn't aim to "provide a full package that allows you to get support for that package"
[15:44] <vinnl> It aims to "provide a usable desktop"
[15:44] <vinnl> (in short :P)
[15:44] <vidd> vinnl, im not really that apposed to a bit torrent client...i  am apposed to so many different types of the same thing
[15:45] <vinnl> vidd, well, you could only argue that Listen has a little bit overlap with Totem, but Xubuntu does a good job otherwise
[15:46] <vidd> there is a remote desktop viewer installed by defualt?
[15:46] <vidd> and how many ppl need that?
[15:47] <vinnl> How is that overlap?
[15:47] <vidd> vinnl, differnt group of gripes
[15:47] <vinnl> ?
[15:51] <pedrito> vidd: I have to go offline. I will try to find the solution later during the week. Thanks for your supervision and teaching.
[16:08] <karen|> How can i get my pointer to move faster?  it's really difficult to navigate with the touchpad when it moves slowly
[16:09] <vinnl> karen|, in the Settings Manager, open the Mouse settings
[16:09] <vinnl> You can then increase the acceleration
[16:10] <karen|> oh snap
[16:10] <karen|> i would have never found that
[16:10] <karen|> thank you SO MUCH
[16:10] <karen|> :D
[16:10] <vinnl> You're welcome :)
[16:11] <vinnl> The Settings Manager is a good start whenever you want to configure stuff ;-)
[16:11] <karen|> i see this now, i was afraid that I'd have to do stuff in the terminal
[16:11] <karen|> (i'm totally new to linux)
[16:11] <TheSheep> karen|: you can also install the gsynaptics-mcs-plugin package and have the settings for your touchpad in the settings manager then
[16:11] <vinnl> Heh, you almost never have to do that if you don't want to :)
[16:11] <karen|> see, Sheep, that's what I had read online
[16:12] <karen|> and it wanted me to activate something with the terminal
[16:12] <karen|> and i was so lost :(
[16:12] <TheSheep> karen|: you can do it with synaptics, no need for terminal :)
[16:12] <karen|> wtf
[16:12] <karen|> the internet lies to me then
[16:12] <vinnl> karen|, often, when you read documentation online, it tells you to do stuff in the terminal even if you can do it without
[16:12] <karen|> :(^2
[16:12] <vinnl> karen|, also, make sure the documentation doesn't just apply to "linux", but to "xubuntu" or at least "ubuntu" :)
[16:13] <TheSheep> because it's easier to describe 'type this' than 'find the icon that looks kinda like a very sick cactus, and click on it'
[16:13] <karen|> oh yea, i made sure of that
[16:13] <vinnl> Exactly
[16:13] <karen|> lol very sick cactus
[16:13] <vinnl> TheSheep, a sick cactus? xD
[16:13] <vidd> karen|, its easier for the user to copy/paste from web page to terminal
[16:13] <karen|> i just need to get used to the terminal
[16:13] <karen|> damn windows has me brainwashed :P
[16:13] <vinnl> :P
[16:14]  * vidd used to be afraid of the terminal when he first started
[16:14]  * vinnl isn't afraid anymore, but really doesn't prefer it :P
[16:14] <karen|> hehe
[16:15] <vidd> now i complain when i have to do things in windows because i have to click 80 times instead of type seven words
[16:15] <karen|> i'm thinking of getting the xubuntu book, kinda take things from the beginning
[16:15] <vinnl> Is there a Xubuntu book?
[16:15] <karen|> aye
[16:15] <vinnl> Link?
[16:15] <karen|> http://www.lulu.com/content/324330
[16:15] <vidd> karen|, just make sure its not from M$ press!
[16:16] <karen|> :x
[16:16] <vinnl> karen|, that's just the Desktop Guide, you can read that on your computer as well :)
[16:16] <karen|> i know, but i like to have things separate from the computer when I'm reading
[16:16] <vinnl> Ah :)
[16:16] <vinnl> karen|, though take note, this seems to be the Desktop Guide for Xubuntu 6.06
[16:16] <karen|> ah ha
[16:16] <karen|> ill do some more digging
[16:17] <MUTU> hi, I inserted an SD Card in my new laptop. How do I view its contents please?
[16:17] <vinnl> MUTU, it ought to show up on the left in the file browser
[16:19] <MUTU> it does not get mounted
[16:19] <MUTU> perhaps my sd card reader is not supported?
[16:21] <vinnl> I wouldn't know, I don't really know anything about SD cards
[16:21] <vinnl> Is it connected through USB?
[16:22] <vinnl> MUTU, if it is, you might try running the command "lsusb"... Don't ask me why, but it's worked for me in the past ;-)
[16:23] <vinnl> But I'm off now, good luck :)
[16:26] <vidd> MUTU, is your card reader internal or usb?
[16:38] <karen|> what's a good audio player for xubuntu?
[16:39] <TheSheep> listen
[16:39] <TheSheep> it's the default in 8.10
[16:41] <MUTU> vidd internal
[16:41] <MUTU> part of the laptop
[16:42] <vidd> MUTU, does lspci show the device?
[16:42] <TheSheep> or lshw
[16:43] <MUTU> 00:0b.0 CardBus bridge: O2 Micro, Inc. OZ711M1/MC1 4-in-1 MemoryCardBus Controller (rev 20)
[16:43] <MUTU> 00:0b.1 CardBus bridge: O2 Micro, Inc. OZ711M1/MC1 4-in-1 MemoryCardBus Controller (rev 20)
[16:43] <MUTU> 00:0b.2 System peripheral: O2 Micro, Inc. OZ711Mx 4-in-1 MemoryCardBus Accelerator
[16:43] <vidd> !pastebin |MU
[16:43] <vidd> !pastebin | MUTU
[16:45] <MUTU> http://paste.ubuntu.com/72955/
[16:50] <the-erm> I've got a really weird problem.  Maybe someone in here will know the answer.
[16:52] <the-erm> I can "od /dev/input/event2" from an ctrl+alt-f1 screen then press buttons on my remote and get output
[16:52] <the-erm> however if I press ctrl+alt+F7 and run the same command I get nothing.
[16:53] <the-erm> I wanted to write something that if input came from the remote, it would do something differently
[17:00] <mutu> sorry about that
[17:00] <mutu> didn't realise my battery was on charge
[17:05] <L_Ryuzaki> hi
[17:17] <karen|> is there a file system that both windows and xubuntu recognize?  cuz i'd like to have a partition (or external harddrive) where i can store files, but so both systems can open things
[17:18] <vidd> karen|, have gparted set up a partition with fat32 file system
[17:18] <karen|> gparted, hmm
[17:18] <vidd> both windows and linux can read and write without any
[17:18] <vidd> *issues
[17:19] <karen|> fat32, that can only have a certain amount of GB on it right?
[17:19] <TheSheep> windows can read ext2/3 partitions with additional driver
[17:19] <TheSheep> karen|: 4GB max file size
[17:19] <karen|> :oooo
[17:19] <TheSheep> !ext2
[17:19] <TheSheep> !ext3
[17:21]  * vidd recommends that you do not give your virus magnet the ability to read(and trash) your linux setup
[17:21] <karen|> :(
[17:21] <vidd> setting up the partition  with fat 32 or ntfs is safest
[17:22] <vidd> !ntfs
[17:24] <vidd> karen|, is this for a dual boot system? or for multiple systems sharing an external drive?
[17:24] <karen|> dual boot
[17:24] <karen|> xubuntu actually hogged up more space than i wanted it to
[17:25] <TheSheep> karen|: you can boot the livecd and resize the partition
[17:25] <karen|> i had assigned 38gb to windows and 15 to xubuntu.  there was about 55gb of unallocated space that i was going to partition later according to what i wanted/needed
[17:25] <TheSheep> karen|: with parted
[17:25] <vidd> with a dual boot, i would definantly stay away from installing the driver that lets windows read/write to your linux partition
[17:25] <karen|> awesome, ill need to do that
[17:26] <vidd> karen|, if you had installed with wubi, you would already have your systems able to "talk" to each other
[17:27] <karen|> i figured keeping them separate was a good idea
[17:28] <karen|> oh anyway, speaking of windows and viruses
[17:28] <karen|> is there an antivirus that i need for xubuntu?
[17:31] <vidd> heh....in order to have a viral infestation of your linux box....you have to find a virus that will run in linux, then download it, then make it executable, and finally run it as root
[17:31] <karen|> ah vidd, you make linux seem like heaven.  i like it.
[17:32]  * knome is back
[17:32] <knome> hello everybody
[17:32] <karen|> hello
[17:32] <vidd> karen|, you may want to look into getting a root kit hunter though
[17:32] <karen|> okies
[17:32]  * vidd recommends rkhunter
[17:33] <vidd> a root kit is spyware for linux
[17:33] <vidd> they are less common, but more dangerous then spyware on windows
[17:33] <karen|> eesh
[17:34] <vidd> a compromised linux machine is used as a general of the zombied windows soldiers of a bot-net
[17:34] <vidd> as long as you practice good security techniques, you should have little issue with them
[17:35] <karen|> gotcha
[17:35] <karen|> just out of curiosity, where do these things usually hide?  programs? web pages?
[17:36] <vidd> usually on web pages, or from hackers directly attacking your machine
[17:37] <karen|> ohhh
[17:37] <karen|> how do i install this :oOoO
[17:38] <vidd> sudo apt-get install rkhunter
[17:38] <vidd> or open up synaptic (since your still not used to the terminal) and you will find it
[17:39] <karen|> i gave the terminal a shot, it seems to be doing okay :O
[17:39] <karen|> i think...it finished
[17:39] <vidd> its like the 7 or 8 hundreth program into the "r"s =]
[17:39] <karen|> :D?
[17:39] <karen|> lol
[17:40] <karen|> i will learn the terminal, it is definitely easier and quicker
[17:40] <vidd> XD
[17:40] <vidd> plus the terminal has tab-complete....
[17:40] <karen|> what's that?! :D?
[17:42] <TheSheep> if you type something and press 'tab', it will complete it
[17:42] <vidd> you could type sud[tab]apt-g[tab]ins[tab]rkh[tab]
[17:42] <vidd> and it would fill out the missing caracters
[17:42] <TheSheep> it's very fast
[17:43] <vidd> notice it puts the spaces in for you too
[17:44] <vidd> and if you are not sure the package or command name but know the first one or two characters of it....
[17:44] <vidd> you can hit tab twice and it will show you all the choices
[17:44] <karen|> cool
[17:45] <vidd> (eat your heart out, Billy!)
[17:45] <karen|> i think ill need to find a website with some terminal commands
[17:45] <karen|> lol
[17:48]  * vidd has a few systems that dont even have keyboards, mice or monitors (headless servers)
[17:49] <vidd> 100% command-line over ssh
[17:54] <karen|> :0
[17:54] <karen|> and what is it that you are serving with your servers
[17:55] <vidd> ftp, email, web pages
[17:55] <karen|> ah ha
[17:55] <vidd> torrent servers
[17:55] <vidd> im working on a media server right now
[17:56] <Freddy2> hi
[17:56] <karen|> cool :3
[17:56] <vidd> so all my movies and music are on one machine, and i can play them from any computer in the world via a web browser
[17:56] <Freddy2> how can i upgrade to intrepid? i've tried sudo aptitude dist-upgrade but "nothing" happens
[17:57] <Freddy2> and on the updates manager i can only see hardy as upgrading option
[17:57] <TheSheep> !upgrade
[17:57] <Freddy2> thx
[17:57] <vidd> Freddy2, sudo update-manager -d
[17:57] <karen|> pseudo
[17:58] <Freddy2> still hardy at most
[17:58] <vidd> dist-upgrade does nothing if you never update the sources
[17:59] <vidd> Freddy2, what version are you currently on?
[17:59] <Freddy2> gusty
[17:59] <Freddy2> i need 2 jumps?
[17:59] <vidd> Freddy2, ya cant jump past hardy
[18:00] <Freddy2> so.. that's it
[18:00] <vidd> you have to get hardy before you can upgrade to II
[18:01] <vidd> since hardy is LTS, you will be able to go directly from 8.04 to 10.4
[18:01] <vidd> you can also go from DD to HH since its LTS to LTS
[18:03] <vidd> heh...they will even need to support upgrading from 6.06 to 10.04 for servers
[18:04] <vidd> and hopefully not a double-bounce to do it
[18:37] <martin101> fishy
[18:37] <martin101> did that information help you?
[18:52] <farciarz84> hi
[18:52] <farciarz84> real problems with xubuntu
[18:52] <farciarz84> ...
[18:52] <farciarz84> :(
[18:53] <farciarz84> sombebody will helps me?
[18:53] <martin101> shoot
[18:53] <farciarz84> ok
[18:54] <farciarz84> first of all x64 8.10 xubuntu I have
[18:54] <farciarz84> problem skype on my laptop
[18:54] <farciarz84> doesn;t work a microphone
[18:54] <martin101> I not on 64bit but I'll attempt to help
[18:54] <Freddy2> don't abuse with enter
[18:55] <farciarz84> check all option in skype and sound in my xubuntu preferences but nothing helps
[18:55] <martin101> does it work in sound recorder?
[18:55] <farciarz84> on windows/opensuse it wored good
[18:56] <farciarz84> i will check
[18:56] <martin101> ok
[18:57] <farciarz84> nope
[18:58] <farciarz84> internal mic, mic, and mic boost desn't
[18:58] <farciarz84> no sound level
[18:58] <martin101> are you sure it not muted in volume control?
[18:59] <farciarz84> there is no mute option - all source are full volume
[18:59] <martin101> under switches it the correct one device selected?
[19:00] <martin101> *is the
[19:00] <farciarz84> yes it is HDA intel #0
[19:01] <martin101> is their another device list under the switches section?
[19:01] <farciarz84> laptop is 6910p core2duo bussiness line of hp
[19:01] <farciarz84> only default
[19:02] <martin101> does sound playback work?
[19:03] <farciarz84> yes it work good
[19:04] <farciarz84> works
[19:04] <farciarz84> have no ide
[19:04] <martin101> umm sounds stranges as it would appear your sound card is recognised.
[19:04] <farciarz84> idea, in ubuntu thre were some option like open system, alsa, pulse audio
[19:05] <farciarz84> and everything work poor as poor but worked
[19:06] <farciarz84> does xfce have some influence in sound ?
[19:06] <martin101> not really
[19:06] <farciarz84> hmmm
[19:06] <martin101> i've just discovered my mic does work!
[19:07] <farciarz84> stragne becouse i need skype to my work
[19:07] <farciarz84> and becouse of that stupid thing i need to reinstall my system
[19:07] <farciarz84> as I see xfce works pretty good and I like it
[19:07] <martin101> oh no, my one does work!
[19:08] <farciarz84> what can I do ?
[19:09] <TheSheep> wasn't there some trick to get skype to work? I remember reading somethnig on the forums...
[19:09] <martin101> do you have the ICH8 Family of devices?
[19:09] <TheSheep> !skype
[19:10] <martin101> there's not point in trying to get skype to record if you can't in sound recorder yet
[19:11] <TheSheep> farciarz84: maybe some of these hints will work: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype#4.%20ALSA%20Configuration
[19:11] <farciarz84> ok tnx guys I will try to read that all stuff
[19:11] <TheSheep> (Xubuntu still uses ALSA, not pulseaudio like Ubuntu)
[19:12] <TheSheep> powodzenia
[19:12] <farciarz84> :)
[19:12] <martin101> does it really?
[19:14] <martin101> I found pulse audio on ubuntu to be rather buggy and was surprised when xubuntu didn't have such problems! maybe that's why
[19:16] <farciarz84> I like unix system but can't realise how to a mature distribution can not provide a good sound or graphic handler in common devices
[19:17] <farciarz84> shame on linux in that part of system
[19:18] <vidd> farciarz84, the device isnt "common" on servers....which is *nix largest base
[19:18] <martin101> linux has made great strides in the past few years!
[19:19] <vidd> its not linux's fault OEM's dont pony up the source or release quality drivers
[19:20] <martin101> yeah I agree vidd
[19:20] <martin101> shame
[19:48] <BadHorsie> hum, for some reason i have the root file system as read-only, dmesg reports no errors and at boot time i never saw the usual fsck message when something goes wrong and you have to remount rw...
[19:49] <BadHorsie> even when i try sudo mount -n -o remount rw /; it remains as ro... also i noticed /etc/fstab contains all but one line commented... the only uncommented line refers to /media/cdrom0, whereas the sda4 device which is in my case the root file system is commented...
[19:59] <fauli> hey, anyone able to help me with setting up teamspeak?
[20:00] <vidd> fauli, what help do you need?
[20:00] <fauli> i want to have music running while talking in teamspeak, but it doesnt work
[20:00] <vidd> i dont understand
[20:01] <fauli> i am able to talk in teamspeak, i also hear other people
[20:01] <vidd> do you want to hear the person talking to you or do you want to hear music?
[20:02] <fauli> i want to hear music while being online in ts
[20:02] <vidd> if they are coming in on the same channel, then one wins and the other doesnt
[20:02] <TheSheep> fauli: configure dmix
[20:02] <vidd> fauli, are you looking for streaming audio, or like cd's and such?
[20:02] <TheSheep> fauli: it teamspeak uses alsa and not oss
[20:02] <fauli> mom, gonna try
[20:03] <vidd> and im off to smoke
[20:03] <TheSheep> fauli: if ts uses oss, then there is no way to do it other than getting an audio card with multiple channels
[20:03] <TheSheep> and even then I'm not sure
[20:03] <fauli> how do i configure dmix?
[20:04]  * vidd thinks teamspeak uses oss
[20:04] <TheSheep> fauli: http://alsa.opensrc.org/home/w/org/opensrc/alsa/index.php?title=DmixPlugin#5._The_simple_approach:
[20:05] <vidd> at least it did when i ran a server
[20:05] <TheSheep> oh, you could run it with aoss...
[20:05] <TheSheep> fauli: that page has lots of useful info
[20:06] <fauli> how can i run it with aoss?
[20:06] <TheSheep> fauli: scroll up on that page
[20:08] <fauli> omg :D thats complex
[20:46] <owen1> how to run adobe air app from the terminal?
[21:48] <volo> hi
[21:48] <martin101> hello
[23:02] <james30070> hello
[23:05] <james30070> i need help
[23:58] <dissociative> I'm under xubuntu 8.10 livecd and I need to access the /home partition of another distro that is installed in the hdd but I can only access the user directories as root, is there a way to access the user directories as non root?