/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2008/11/17/#kubuntu-devel.txt

Arbymorning all08:18
Hobbseemorning!08:21
ardchoillehttp://ardchoille.nfshost.com/Blog/2008111612:21
ardchoilleJust thought you might want to hear about a kubuntu user frustration and hope it gets better with Kubuntu12:21
ardchoilleYou good folks should fork kde 3.5.9 and keep that as your base.12:22
nixternalwhile we are at it, why don't we just fork all of michael jackson's songs and the 1980s along with it...hey, why not fork KDE 2.x too!12:42
Arbywhee, every logical fallacy about KDE4 collected into one handy reference.12:46
Arbywell done that man :)12:46
nixternallol12:46
Hobbseehe's right that something like gnome's easier to learn, than the transition from kde3 to kde4, though.12:55
Hobbseealthough it certainly doesn't have all its settings in one place either12:55
ArbyI have't been around linux all that long but didn't gnome go through something similar with gnome 2.0?12:58
rgreeningmorning dudes and duettes o/13:17
rgreenings/duettes/dudettes13:17
apacheloggerseems like policykit-kde is getting into 4.213:46
Riddellaaron has his way?13:46
apacheloggerwould policykit go into kdegraphics? :P13:47
apacheloggerRiddell: there's a thread on the release list13:48
Riddellwhat's it got to do with graphics?13:48
apacheloggeraaron being master of kdegraphics13:48
apacheloggeranyway, of course dirk is very much in favor, so there isn't much choice anyway, because he could just refuse to roll the 4.2 tarballs if policykit doesn't get in ;-)13:49
JontheEchidnabug 297806 is weird14:04
ubottuLaunchpad bug 297806 in kdebase-workspace "Please set "Needs root privs" to "true" for About Me in systemsettings" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/29780614:04
JontheEchidnaactually I think his diagnosis is wrong, but the error dialog they give you is wrong too14:05
JontheEchidnabecause changing things actually works, but you get that error dialog14:06
JontheEchidnaonly password changing is truly broken14:06
JontheEchidnakde rev 885339 <314:18
ubottuhttp://websvn.kde.org/trunk/?rev=885339&view=rev | svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk -r 88533914:18
RiddellJontheEchidna: cor14:20
Tonio_hi there14:22
JontheEchidnaA wild Tonio appears!14:24
JontheEchidnaI choose you Pikachu!14:24
RiddellI must be too old for that popular culture reference14:25
jjesseRiddell: you never followd pokemon?14:26
rgreeningRiddell: how about "by the power of Greyskull"14:27
jjesseall i know about pokemon is pikachu14:27
rgreeninglol14:27
Riddellrgreening: now you're talking14:27
rgreeningWe are showing our age . haha14:27
jjessebut thunder cats was better14:28
rgreeningAnyone remember Rocket Robin Hood? Now that was a good cartton14:28
* jjesse is ashamed to admit i have the first season of thundercats on dvd14:28
apacheloggerrgreening: any regression reports on our xdg patch?14:28
apacheloggeruhhh14:29
apacheloggergreyskull14:29
* apachelogger takes a post-it to stop by at the video store14:29
rgreeningapachelogger: I haven't heard, though I haven't looked.14:33
NCommanderRiddell & rgreening: How old are you O_O?14:33
* rgreening looks through bugs14:33
rgreeningNCommander: 3714:33
NCommanderrgreening, Your nearly double my age14:34
rgreeninglol14:34
* rgreening remembers a time when "Eat my Shorts" was taboo to say on tv...14:34
ScottKrgreening is still a youngster, really.14:41
rgreeningapachelogger: nothing in bug reports re: xdg on kdelibs and xdg14:41
rgreeningScottK = rgreening + 8 (iirc) :)14:42
ScottK~, yes.14:43
apacheloggerrgreening: well, we only have it in experimental, so I suppose there won't be any bug reports ;-)14:44
apacheloggerrgreening: I guess we should promote the fix to jaunty and intrepid-backports soonish14:44
apacheloggerand tell the debian14:44
rgreeningapachelogger: Yes, it would be prudent I think. It works here for me. It would be nice to get someone with a mixed DE to try it. Someone with Gnome DE and try some kde apps under it...14:45
apacheloggerrgreening: Hobbsee might be able to test14:45
rgreeningthat would be nice, at least it would be a test case in the other direction... since we know the KDE side works.14:47
apachelogger"Adept update warning icon" I always thought about that as a notification really14:50
RiddellNCommander: did you look at that kde4libs/adept link issue?14:50
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: We've had reports on the opposite side of things saying it was too scary14:52
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: how could that icon be scary? Oo14:53
* JontheEchidna shrugs14:53
apacheloggerI can partially reproduce a "not very visible", but certainly not a "it scares me"14:53
JontheEchidnathe old icon, I mean14:53
apacheloggerwell, the old was just wrong ... on a dimensional point of view14:54
apacheloggerwhich makes it scary IMHO :P14:54
JontheEchidnalol14:54
NCommanderRiddell, oh, shoot, it slipped my mind, let me get right on that14:54
apacheloggerany minions at hand?14:55
apacheloggerI lost the list of source packages and file names for bug 28491514:55
ubottuLaunchpad bug 284915 in kdebase-runtime "Khelpcenter missing docs list" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/28491514:55
apacheloggerthe one I posted looks incomplete TBH14:55
rgreeningapachelogger: what do you need?15:02
* rgreening puts on minion hat15:02
apacheloggera list of applications/kioslaves/kcms that are listed in KHC but don't actually have any docs15:03
apacheloggerbest with desktop file of app/kio/kcm, source package and for all of kde15:03
jjesseisnt there a list of that on techbase for todo for kde docs or am i missing hte point15:07
NCommanderRiddell, I think I got it fixed15:08
apacheloggerjjesse: missing it a bit, despite the fact that they have no docs they wrongly claim that they have doc in their desktop file, which makes that stuff show up in KHC15:09
jjesseah so they will no longer show up in KHC then, i understand15:13
apacheloggeraye15:13
rgreeningapachelogger: so, what exactly do you want to happen? For each package, patch to remove the doc info?15:13
rgreeningapachelogger: if so, I can start in on that.15:14
vvinetdoes anyone have the command to force reloading/recaching of all kde libs/bin on a system, apart from reboot?15:16
rgreeningapachelogger: or do you want me to see if I can patch KHC to look for the Doc and verify existance and popup notification to install package if not found (i.e. use install-package option for missing docs)15:17
apacheloggerrgreening: I just need a list of stuff to change, I am going to do the changes in KDE directly15:17
apacheloggerrgreening: it popups a notification, but that one is not useful at all, distribution integration greatly appreciated ;-)15:18
rgreeningapachelogger: yeah, so I could hack in the install-package support15:19
apacheloggereven then the desktop files are wrong15:19
apacheloggerrgreening: I think a more general upstream approach makes more sense15:19
apacheloggerit's not exactly top priority, since KHC is widely broken anyway15:19
rgreeninglol15:19
rgreeningwhat do you want me to do then...15:20
RiddellNCommander: ooh?15:20
NCommanderRiddell, nope, false alarm15:21
NCommanderRiddell, I can however reproduce the FTBFS locally now15:21
apacheloggersudo apt-get install kde -> start khc -> go through every item -> notes the one that fail to load -> try to find the underlying desktop file (e.g. ar.protcol or ksystemlog.desktop) -> run dpkg -S DESKTOPFILE -> note desktop file name and source package15:21
apacheloggerrgreening: ^15:21
apacheloggerin short: aggregate a list of wrong desktop files15:21
* apachelogger thinks it's time to go home soonish15:22
rgreeningapachelogger: ok. on it.15:25
Nightroseapachelogger: still no sound in neon after latest updates :(  i have no backend in phonon now15:37
Nightroseany package that i need?15:37
NCommanderRiddell, this build failure is freaking anonying. Its something in updates causing the failure, I just have no idea what16:05
RiddellNCommander: me neither :(16:07
RiddellI can't see any likely candidates16:07
NCommanderRiddell, it looks like its an issue with kde4libs16:08
NCommanderBut ... O_o;16:08
NCommanderHow is that even possible16:08
Riddellthe kde4libs chanange is in (what should be) an unrelated area16:08
NCommanderRiddell, it looks like something in that change caused a path from the buildds to get hardcoded into the binary16:10
NCommanderOk16:15
NCommanderI found the issue16:15
NCommanderIts a cmake bug16:15
Riddellooh?16:15
NCommanderin /usr/share/kde4/apps/cmake/modules take a look at KDELibsDependenciesInternal.cmake16:16
NCommanderThere our hardcoded path16:16
Riddelland one goes wrong?16:17
NCommander??16:17
Riddell??16:17
NCommanderWhat do you mean "and one goes wrong"?16:17
RiddellI don't know, you were explaining to me what the problem was16:18
NCommanderWell, its this hard coded path that breaks things miserably16:18
NCommanderThis file is dymanically generated by cmake at build time16:18
NCommanderMy guess is the version of cmake in intrepid has a bug, and only manifiested itself when kdelibs was updated16:19
NCommanderI'm going to try rebuilding kde4libs, maybe it will resolve itself16:20
NCommanderIf not, then we need to possibly update cmake16:20
NCommanderSo Riddell if a binary rebuild doesn't fix kde4libs, but an updated cmake does, can we simply dump the newest cmake into updates :-)?16:33
Riddellif you convince pitti16:34
NCommanderRiddell, assuming I'm right, we'll have to dump cmake into updates, then rebuild kde4libs, and then simply retry adept16:34
NCommander:-P16:34
NCommanderRiddell, talked to cjwatson. He said to hack kde4libs to strip out the hardcoding16:45
Riddellit does seem like the sort of thing which would be hacked into the post build of kde4libs16:47
Riddells/would/could/16:47
NCommanderRiddell, how's your regex :-)16:49
ScottKNCommander: One problem we have with the newer Cmake approach is that -security is always built against -release and I think having -security and -updates build against two different versions would not be great.16:50
NCommanderI forgot about that16:51
NCommanderScottK, well, I know where we have to make the change16:53
NCommanderScottK, is your regex any good?16:53
ScottKNope.16:53
NCommander:-P16:53
ScottKI have to break out "Mastering Regular Expressions" every time I do a new one.16:54
NCommandersame as me16:54
ScottKhttps://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=175409 looks worth considering for Jaunty.16:56
ubottuKDE bug 175409 in general "There is no easy way to reload the groupdav source" [Normal,Unconfirmed]16:56
NCommanderRiddell, I've confirmed the bug17:12
RiddellNCommander: ooh la la17:14
RiddellNCommander: so what was the change in cmake?17:14
NCommanderNo, I just confirmed it happens in intrepid, but not jaunty on a fresh rebuild17:14
NCommander:-P17:14
Riddellah17:15
NCommanderapachelogger, ping17:15
DaSkreechk3b KDE4 edition is in beta now?17:27
NCommanderRiddell, it looks like this entire chunk of code saw an massive rewrite from KDE 4.1.2 -> jaunty KDE 4.118:24
RiddellNCommander: which chunk?  in cmake?18:27
NCommanderthe cmake support code in KDE 4.118:27
jjessefor those going to UDS, anyone else getting  in around 8pm Sunday nigth to the airport18:29
NCommanderjjesse, which airport18:31
NCommanderRiddell, ok, it seems the bug is actually kdelibs, and I'm an idiot :-)18:32
NCommanderI'll see if I can cherry pick the fixed code from 4.1.3718:32
NCommander&8318:32
NCommander*7318:32
jjessesan fransisco18:32
jjessesfo18:32
NCommanderI *might*18:32
jjessewould like to share a ride18:33
NCommanderSure18:34
NCommanderBut I'm not sure yet on the times :-)18:34
jjesseah havent booked flight?18:35
NCommanderNo, I have18:35
NCommanderI just don't remember18:35
NCommanderwhat time I'll be arriving18:35
NCommanderbut I perfer to use public transportation and all that18:35
jjesseNCommander: fill out the wiki page udsjaunty/attendees18:35
NCommanderjjesse, I did18:36
jjesseNCommander: does it list your fligts?  causei could look there18:37
Riddellthe public transportation is usually not practial18:37
NCommanderjjesse, check for Michael Casadevall18:37
jjessergreening: from the wiki it looks like you arrive around the same time as me, we should share a ride18:37
Riddellthere's a train which does about once a day and then you need a bus to the hotel which might go one a day too18:37
NCommanderRiddell, ??, SF's public transportation system isn't that bad18:38
jjesse835 pm18:38
jjessewait it shows as 08:35 you arrive early sunday morning18:38
NCommanderO_O?18:38
RiddellNCommander: it's not in SF proper, it's way out in suburbs that claim to be their own cities18:38
NCommanderI do?18:38
NCommanderRiddell, *wince*18:39
NCommander     Depart: WASHINGTON DULLE,DC  5:43 PM             Conf: NKTMP118:40
NCommander     Arrive: SAN FRANCISCO,CA  8:35 PM18:40
NCommanderNo, I'm arriving Sunday night18:40
NCommanderRiddell, that cab could run 50 dollars easily, even more.18:40
jjesseNCommander: exactly why i want to split it18:41
NCommanderjjesse, sure, no problem, maybe we can find someone else. But some cabs in SF when I was there charged per person18:41
NCommander;.;18:41
RiddellNCommander: yeah but it's the only practical way in my experience18:41
NCommanderRiddell, I'll walk :-)18:41
RiddellNCommander: so sharing is a good idea (if you're sponsored you can claim it back of course, make sure you get a receipt)18:41
* NCommander walked across SF last time I was here18:42
jjesseNCommander: cool18:42
NCommanderRiddell, I can?18:42
NCommanderWOOO!18:42
jjesseNCommander: yeah you gotta keep receipts and turn them in18:42
NCommanderNice18:42
Riddellfor travel18:42
jjessethe3 hard part is remembering to turn in your receipts18:42
NCommanderjjesse, well, if we share a cab, I guess we can get it for free :-) *shot*18:42
Riddellno receipts needed for food, that's a per diem18:42
NCommanderRiddell, I'm looking at the backport the fix from the newer KDE libs18:44
rgreeningjjesse: sure thing. I have another body as well. So, that's 3 of us to share. The other is Stéphane Graber (stgraber)18:44
RiddellNCommander: have you tracked down something that was fixed?18:44
NCommanderRiddell, possibly, working on it18:45
NCommanderRiddell, I think I hit paydirt, I managed to get cmake to buid the dependency files with correct paths, now I just need to make sure it builds, and clean up the fix18:49
apacheloggerNightrose: dunno18:50
Nightrose:(18:50
apacheloggerNCommander: 4.2 beta1 is soon to be uploaded really18:50
NCommanderapachelogger, this is for proposed18:50
apacheloggeroh, i see18:50
apacheloggerNightrose: ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh18:53
Nightrose?18:54
apacheloggeroh my picard18:54
Nightrose;-)18:54
Nightrosetell me honey18:54
apacheloggerphonon-xine was in runtime at the time 4.2.0 got released18:54
apacheloggerhold on18:55
apacheloggerNightrose: isn't your toilet called jean-luc18:55
Nightroseit seems to be yea18:55
apacheloggermost nicely18:55
Riddell4.2.0 got released?18:55
apacheloggerRiddell: phonon18:56
apachelogger    checkOutEval(comp, "KDE/kdebase/runtime/phonon", "kdebase-minimal/phonon")18:56
apacheloggerso, how do I get that to use the stable branch18:56
apachelogger-.-18:56
Tm_Tphonon has always 0.1 more than KDE in version number, evil isn't it18:56
apacheloggerneon just wasn't designed for that crap18:56
Riddellright18:57
NCommanderapachelogger, so what can I do to help w/ KDE 4.218:57
Riddelljoin the kubuntu ninjas when packging18:57
apacheloggerNCommander: report to JontheEchidna, he'll be leading the packaging for beta118:57
RiddellI'm doing 4.1.73 currently18:57
* NCommander reports to JontheEchidna 18:57
JontheEchidnahai ^_^18:58
smarterRiddell: I saw that, impressive :)18:58
* smarter wonders if he should starts updating all his packages18:59
NCommanderRiddell, can you accept something into proposed w.o a SRU ACK?18:59
apacheloggerpitti will eat you without SRU ACK18:59
Riddellsmarter: it's a bit broken currently, waiting for pkg-kde-tools to move to main18:59
RiddellNCommander: not in main, only pitti does that18:59
* NCommander nods18:59
Riddelluniverse needs motu-sru ack18:59
NCommanderI thought that was to move from proposed->updates19:00
Riddellshould have an ack before it gets accepted into proposed19:02
Riddellyou can upload all you want though, it'll get stuck in unaccepted19:02
Riddellunapproved19:02
Riddellwhatever it's called19:02
Riddellkimono (kde c#) working! http://www.kubuntu.org/~jriddell/tmp/kimono.png19:04
apacheloggerChecking out KDE/4.1/kdebase/runtime/phonon to /home/apachelogger/intrepid/root/svn/kdebase-minimal/phonon19:05
apacheloggerNightrose: there is a 7% chance sound will work with the new kdebase19:05
Nightrosewohooo19:06
NCommanderRiddell, I got a proposed fix19:07
RiddellNCommander: excellent19:08
NCommanderRiddell, https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde4libs/+bug/299164 - care to accept the nomination for intrepid?19:08
ubottuLaunchpad bug 299164 in kde4libs "Can't compile against libsolid in intrepid" [Undecided,New]19:08
Riddelldone19:09
smarterbtw, what happened to extragear 4.1.3 packaging?19:10
Riddellextragear didn't appear19:11
Riddellalthough I see it has now, it just wasn't announced to packagers19:11
smarterhmm19:11
RiddellI also saw helio muttering that he might have used the wrong scripts to make them so possibly best not to bother19:15
* apachelogger got the better script anyway :P19:17
rgreeningAny reason for KFind not to appear in the K-Menu? Perhaps it needs a shortcut in Favorites or a top level entry.19:35
rgreeningIs there a way to subscripe in launchpad only to KDE related bugs?19:37
Riddellkubuntu-bugs mailing list tries to19:38
rgreeningah. ok.19:38
* rgreening unsubscribes to LP bugs list... OMG it's busy19:38
^seelenn^ryanakca: Evening, I got your memo, can help you in an hour or so20:56
^seelenn^had to have a full re-install last night because of a massive fail20:56
ryanakca^seelenn^: splendid, I'll do homework 'till then :)20:57
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a|wendoes callking dh_icon in a rules file make a difference in KDE?21:27
smarter"dh_icons is a debhelper program that updates Freedesktop icon caches when needed, using the update-icon-caches program provided by GTK+2.12."21:29
smarterguess not21:29
smarterdo you know kde packages which still use plain debhelper?21:29
* ^seelenn^ has finished cleaning the upstairs21:34
^seelenn^ryanakca: Am ready to help, what do you nedd me to do21:35
Arbyanybody around with decent PyQt or Qt knowledge?21:35
Simeyes21:35
Arbyexcellent21:36
ArbyI'm failing to set the state of a checkbox21:36
Arbyhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/73496/21:36
Arbysetting the text label works21:36
a|wensmarter: so it shouldn't be very necessary having a call to it?21:36
Arbyas soon as I uncomment the setCheckState lines it crashes21:36
ArbySime: ^^21:37
Arbyclearly I'm doing something wrong21:37
smartera|wen: not sure21:37
a|wensmarter: only universe packages (which we either import or merge with debian)21:37
smarterletting it shouldn't hurt anyway21:37
smarterArby: what object type is chkPMakeDefault?21:38
Arbysmarter: QCheckBox21:38
a|wensmarter: it's our only diff to debian (knutclient) ... so if it isn't necessary it would be good to get back in sync21:38
SimeArby: is the checkbox connected to a slot? (it might be a signal loop!)21:38
ArbySime: yes21:39
Arbyself.connect(self.chkPMakeDefault, SIGNAL("stateChanged(int)"), self.chkPMakeDefault_stateChanged)21:39
Arbythat looks wrong actually21:40
Simesee if it is jumping into self.chkPMakeDfault....21:40
Arbyhow do I check that? conveniently placed print statement?21:40
Arbyor is there a clever way21:40
smarteralso, if you only need to check/uncheck the box, consider using setChecked(true) instead of setCheckState()21:40
ArbyI tried that and failed, let me try again, it would be simpler21:41
smarteryou could try the python debugger21:41
smarterhttp://www.python.org/doc/2.5.2/lib/module-pdb.html21:41
SimeArby: print statement is best21:41
Arbyit doesn't seem to be going into self.chkPMakeDefault_stateChanged.21:44
Arbyit crashes as soon as it hits21:45
Arbyself.chkPMakeDefault.setChecked(state)21:45
Arbyargh fail21:45
Arbyneed to change that back21:45
Arbynot that it matters, still crashes21:46
ArbySime, smarter Am I actually using Qt.Checkstate correctly?21:47
ArbyI didn't really understand what I was supposed to do21:47
smarterthere's no need for Qt.CheckState21:48
smarterjust use setChecked(true)21:48
ArbyI tried, it still crashed.21:48
smarteryes, because the problem is elsewhere21:49
smarterI was just saying that since you don't need checkstate, using setChecked was better 'cause simpler21:49
Arbyah, right I see. I'll change it back21:49
Arbyhmm, the backtrace is missing all the debugging symbols. Any idea what package I need21:51
* Arby pokes apt-cache21:51
Riddella|wen: dh_icon is needed to ensure the app icon appears in Gnome's application menu21:56
a|wenRiddell: thx ... and it has no function in KDE what so ever?21:57
Riddellno21:58
RiddellKDE's icon cache is clever enough to just work21:58
Riddellbut we want our app icons to be available to gnome21:58
a|wenRiddell: also if this is our only diff to debian?21:59
Riddellyes22:00
RiddellNCommander: no patch yet for that kdelibs issue?22:01
NCommanderRiddell, have the patch its still compiling :-/22:02
NCommandercorrection22:02
NCommanderJust finished22:02
NCommanderLet me make sure I can build adept now22:02
Riddellgood luck22:02
NCommander??22:03
NCommandergood luck on what?22:03
a|wenRiddell: thx for clarification22:03
NCommanderRiddell, ok, grabbing adepts build deps ...22:04
ArbySime: you were right, it was a signal loop. thanks for the hint22:16
Arbyis this a reasonable solution22:17
Arbyhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/73520/22:17
Arbyor is that just crack22:17
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SimeArby: that is one solution. I just use a flag variable to 'guard' each slot. I've got this in a python @decorator so it is real neat.22:28
ArbySime: but it's not going to make people go 'arrgh god don't do that' ?22:30
motosir_hello22:30
ArbySime: Also, what do you mean by a guard variable?22:31
Arbydo you mean as in @pyqtSignature("")?22:31
Arby(sorry for the flood of questions, just a beginner)22:31
SimeArby: my @decorator is neater. :-) http://paste.ubuntu.com/73532/22:32
SimeArby: put @block in front of your slots and that will 'disable' signals (kind of)22:33
ryanakcaapachelogger: you running the meeting tomorrow?22:33
ArbySime: do you mean like this http://paste.ubuntu.com/73533/ ?22:37
Riddellhi motosir_22:37
Arbynot that I can actually follow what that wrapper does22:37
SimeArby: yes22:37
ryanakcaRiddell: btw, you can see what we have so far for the screenshot plugin on my testsite... huats is helping me debug why the admin interface isn't working... once we get that sorted out, we'll be able to add more screenshots and have the next / prev buttons working22:38
ArbySime: where do I put the definition? In a file somewhere and import it?22:38
ArbyI don't know how to define decorators22:39
SimeArby: it is the same as this code: http://paste.ubuntu.com/73534/22:39
SimeArby: it just adds that if around the method.22:39
SimeArby: it is just another plain python function.22:39
SimeArby: decorators are just functions which add stuff to other functions.22:40
Hobbseeapachelogger: test what?22:41
Riddellryanakca: where's your test site?22:44
Riddellryanakca: who's huats?22:44
Riddellryanakca: will sysadmin allow this module?22:44
Hobbseehuats is a guy on irc22:44
ryanakcaRiddell: One of the *ubuntu-fr webmasters... or at least he writes their modules22:45
Hobbseenow a motu, i think?  or a uuc, at least.22:45
ryanakca... and they've allowed it on the ubuntu-fr, I've talked about it with newz2000, and he doesn't see any reason why they wouldn't allow it on another one of their sites22:45
ArbySime: so would something like http://paste.ubuntu.com/73541/ work?22:46
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