[00:01]  * Dr_willis is totally lost as to what a is going on about.. but thats nothing new for  dr_willis
[00:02] <PleXuS> hi all
[00:02] <a> well several people gave me a hard case today when i was asking simple questions so i told them what i thought and it turns out i am blocked from the ubuntu channel
[00:02] <PleXuS> seems that i have troubles with latest kernel when i enable 64Bit HPET in bios
[00:02] <a> i was just enquiring about simple stuff
[00:03] <PleXuS> could it be because i have installed when it was enabled on 32bit?
[00:03] <linux_> boa noite
[00:04] <Wicked> hmm i cant seem to get liquid weather superkaramba to work
[00:05] <Dr_willis> last i heard about 'liquid weather' the developers refused to use the proper #!/bin/bash line at the start of their scripts.. they insisted on using #!/bin/sh when it was WRONG..
[00:05] <Dr_willis> but then again.. with kde4 and its plasmids..  I imagne all these other ways to get desklets/gadgets/gizmos will fall out of favor
[00:05] <Wicked> oh hmm..mine is all black and just says cannot find parts of kross scripting language
[00:06] <Wicked> but ive installed all the packages for fross
[00:06] <Dr_willis> No idea on that.. I just use a firefox extension for my weather :)
[00:08] <a> wow some of the gnome themes look good but theres no point beleiving that everyone can have them cos you'd have to be able to program it yourself
[00:10] <LjL> !offtopic | a
[00:10] <a> well, love to fight my way in but i better go sort my windows out
[00:14] <ActionParsnip> program a theme, thatd be a good one to observe :D
[00:17] <courtjesterg> confused alot ack!!!
[00:19] <courtjesterg> ok am i suppose to use x86 or i386
[00:19] <courtjesterg> i forget
[00:20] <courtjesterg> just read a repot  so long
[00:20] <courtjesterg> i got amd chips  k7d master l mother board
[00:20] <courtjesterg> nvidia
[00:21] <courtjesterg> a socket
[00:21] <ActionParsnip> courtjesterg: what cpu?#
[00:21] <courtjesterg> they are amd athon xps 2200 or 2100 moded to to run in duel mode on the t3 or t4 slit filled with liquid metal so the mainboard treats them like mp but they act like xps
[00:22] <ActionParsnip> courtjesterg: looks 32bit to me
[00:22] <courtjesterg> so thats?/x86? or i386
[00:23] <ActionParsnip> i386
[00:24] <courtjesterg> so i really don't get this am i supposet o remove stuff then add in new stuff?
[00:26] <ActionParsnip> courtjesterg: what are you trying to achieve
[00:26] <courtjesterg> http://paste.ubuntu.com/73136/
[00:27] <courtjesterg> real directions people why can't they just write a short summary i read so many pages and write down word for word directions
[00:29] <courtjesterg> brb
[00:31] <ActionParsnip> courtjesterg: you tried disabling acpi before booting to live cd
[00:32] <courtjesterg> i didn't even use i live cd i am running off my hard drive using 8.10 intrebid
[00:32] <courtjesterg> i don't even use windows
[00:32] <courtjesterg> wine trying to for a game lol
[00:33] <courtjesterg> is there a way to check my kernal version?
[00:33] <ActionParsnip> courtjesterg: then add the boot option to your menu.lst
[00:33] <ThomasHC> courtjesterg: uname
[00:33] <ActionParsnip> !bootoptions | courtjesterg
[00:37] <courtjesterg> is this going to work for kubuntu users?
[00:38] <courtjesterg> oh i can check my kernal number in recovery mode
[00:38] <courtjesterg> just might be a bad kernal install
[00:44] <courtjesterg> 8.10 kernel 2.6.27.7 generic i am using
[00:45] <ActionParsnip> courtjesterg: add the noacpi option to menu.lst
[00:45] <courtjesterg> alright
[00:45] <courtjesterg> got to read that boot link you gave me
[00:53] <courtjesterg> ok i added it to the line at the end
[00:53] <courtjesterg> wrote and updated now a get a graphical interface with this
[00:53] <courtjesterg>  A new version of /boot/grub/menu.lst is available, but the version   │
[00:53] <courtjesterg>     │ installed currently has been locally modified.                       │
[00:53] <courtjesterg>     │                                                                      │
[00:53] <courtjesterg>     │ What would you like to do about menu.lst?
[00:56] <maxbaldwin> What's the fastest command to perform a distribution upgrade with apt-get
[00:56] <maxbaldwin> or whatever the Alt-F2 command is
[00:56] <johnficca> is there a way to fix the icons in the system tray? a lot of them have black boxs around them.
[01:00] <maxbaldwin> is it 'kdesudo adept_manager --dist-upgrade;?
[01:00] <maxbaldwin> someone?
[01:02] <jussi01> johnficca: not yet
[01:04] <brandon__> anyone here?
[01:05] <maxbaldwin> nope
[01:06] <a> whats wrong brandon?
[01:08] <brandon__> Can i update my wubi 8.04.1 to 8.10?
[01:08] <a> yes
[01:09] <brandon__> i won't have any problems?
[01:09] <Dr_willis> We cant predict that.. :)
[01:09] <a> there is some problems i am just looking for the link now
[01:09] <Noxes> Hello?
[01:09] <Dr_willis> Upgrades can have problems.. or they may not . :)
[01:09] <Noxes> Cna I get some help with Ubuntu?
[01:09] <Noxes> Cam*
[01:09] <Dr_willis> !ask | Noxes
[01:09] <Noxes> Can*
[01:10] <courtjesterg> !noapic
[01:10] <brandon__> ok
[01:10] <courtjesterg> noapic
[01:10] <courtjesterg>    Disable the "Advanced Programmable Interrupt Controller (APIC)".
[01:10] <courtjesterg> whats this do
[01:10] <Noxes> OKay I have 2 hard drives in my computer. I have Vista on one, and nothing on the other. Can I install Ubuntu, on the empty one, and boot into that, without affecting Vista files?
[01:10] <courtjesterg> whats an advance programmable interrupt controller
[01:10] <a> http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading
[01:11] <javi> Hello
[01:11] <Noxes> Did that not make sense at all ? >_<
[01:11] <Noxes> Im such a noob.
[01:11] <Noxes> Hello?
[01:11] <Dr_willis> Noxes,  you can dual boot.. yes...
[01:11] <maxbaldwin> it makes sense, Noxes
[01:11] <maxbaldwin> and yes, you can
[01:12] <Noxes> I know that much, but can I just install it on the second hard drive without partions?
[01:12] <Dr_willis> Or you could keep the grub loader on the 2nd hard drive also.. and  tell the bios what hd to boot...
[01:12] <Noxes> and all that such
[01:12] <Dr_willis> It will ahve partitions... unless you do some fancy stuff..
[01:12] <brandon__> just wondering... who else is using wubi?
[01:12] <Dr_willis> the installer can auto-partition the disk if it is all unaloccated
[01:12] <Noxes> Like would I effect Harddrive Vista at all, like can I just tell the installer to partition the Empty Harddrive.
[01:13] <Noxes> And doo all the installing on the empty one.
[01:13] <Noxes> Im sorry If I sound like a Noob.
[01:13] <brandon__> noxes use wubi like me!
[01:13] <Noxes> Wubi?
[01:14] <brandon__> http://wubi-installer.org/
[01:14] <nemisis> Hi all
[01:14] <Dr_willis> Noxes, You do mean 2 actual Hard Drives rigth.. not  a single hard drive with 2 partitions? :)
[01:14] <Noxes> pfft, I want a real install. not a Windows APP
[01:14] <brandon__> its not a windows app
[01:14] <Noxes> Too what I believe, 2 Actual hard drives yes.
[01:14] <Dr_willis> Noxes,  the worse it will do to the windows drive is install the grub boot loader to it..
[01:15] <Dr_willis> Noxes,  if you are truely paranoid.. unhook the windows hard drive.. install linux to the other hd.. put hd back..
[01:15] <Sokal-EC> im trying to edit a .psd file with gimp but nothing changes anyone know what i need to do?
[01:15] <Noxes> Lolol, NIce
[01:15] <Noxes> Okay soo I'll install on Empty, then to boot it up
[01:15] <Noxes> What exactly do I do?
[01:15] <Dr_willis> Tell the bios to boot that hard drive.
[01:15] <Noxes> Howso?
[01:15] <Dr_willis> Depends on YOUR bios
[01:16] <Dr_willis> I hit F9 on my machine to get a 'boot drive menu'
[01:16] <Dr_willis> some machines you may need to enter the bios and change the boot order
[01:16] <Noxes> I have an acer, does that help?
[01:16] <mister-tea> delete does mine
[01:16] <Noxes> how can I tell if it is 2 reall harddrives or just one paritioned one?
[01:17] <Dr_willis> Noxes,  tells me very little...
[01:17] <Dr_willis> Noxes,  LOOK In side the case? :) see 2 shiny metal box's ya got 2 hard drives...
[01:17] <Noxes> Bahh,
[01:18] <Noxes> If it is just a partitioned one, will that really affect things?
[01:18] <Noxes> Btw how do you Proxy a IRC?
[01:18] <Dr_willis> You can dualboot windows and linux just fine..  the installer will put a GRUB BOOT menu you will see whenyou first boot up
[01:19] <Noxes> Does Ubuntu coem with any security programs btw?
[01:19] <maxbaldwin> yes
[01:19] <brandon__> really what?
[01:19] <Noxes> Good..
[01:19] <Noxes> Noww, I shall wait till the iso is done download -_-   Lololol
[01:20] <Noxes> Is anyone here a Ethical Hacker?
[01:20]  * Dr_willis wonders what a vague term like ' security programs' really means.. :)
[01:20] <Dr_willis> 'hacker' has gotten to be such a vague buzz word also. :)
[01:20] <Noxes> =\ OKay, So Ethical Cracker..?
[01:21] <brandon__> noxes i recommend avg anit-virus. I use it for windows and ubuntu
[01:21] <brandon__> http://free.avg.com/download?prd=afl
[01:21] <Noxes> Your one of those hackers that believes any Malicous Cracker should not be called a hacker, arent you?
[01:21] <Noxes> >_>
[01:22] <Noxes> Hey, thats not reall what I asked Brandon, my buddy.
[01:22] <Noxes> Anyways, can anyone here Program C++?
[01:22] <brandon__> you sould use it anyway
[01:22] <Dr_willis> an anti-virus app dosent count as a security program?
[01:22] <Noxes> I feel like such a noob =.=
[01:23]  * mister-tea wonders why you need anti virus in kinux
[01:23] <Noxes> anti-vrus just does scanns, then claims you have to buy a new version to delete them..
[01:23] <Dr_willis> to scan the windows parition - mister-tea  :)
[01:23] <Noxes> kinux?
[01:23] <Noxes> Lolol,
[01:23] <mister-tea> linux
[01:23] <Noxes> Not many linux virus's ehh?
[01:23] <mister-tea> no
[01:24] <Noxes> But then, why do I keep reading about linux hacks? and such..
[01:24] <Noxes> Like telnet shit..
[01:24] <Noxes> Also, can you run MSN On Linux?
[01:24] <mister-tea> hacks are customising your own machine
[01:25] <Noxes> Yeah, uhmm i mean "Cracks"
[01:25] <Noxes> Well nto cracks either..
[01:25] <Noxes> Uhmm
[01:25] <Noxes> not*
[01:26] <Noxes> and the reason I seem like a computer nerd is because im young btw.. very young.
[01:26] <Noxes> Can You run Apache Servers on Ubuntu?
[01:26] <Noxes> Like, to run a website
[01:26] <mister-tea> !server
[01:26] <Noxes> What Linux kernal is on Ubuntu 8.10?
[01:27] <Noxes> BUt wait no, how would you set up a webserevr on a linux then? This is soo confusing.
[01:27] <mister-tea> check out the link
[01:28] <Noxes> can apache atleast run on linux? because... that would make it easier for me.
[01:28] <Dr_willis> You install the web server on the system
[01:28] <Dr_willis> and there ya go...
[01:28] <bazhang> !lamp
[01:28] <Dr_willis> theres are dozens of web servers you can run on linux
[01:29] <Noxes> Im downloading the basic Desktop Ubuntu, would that affect my webserver ideas?
[01:29] <Noxes> you peoplez are really helpful
[01:29] <Dr_willis> You can install any of the servces on ubuntu if you want
[01:30] <Dr_willis> ssh/web/samba/
[01:30] <Noxes> I dont understand ssh, is it like Telnet?
[01:30] <mister-tea> might i suggest some reading on the subject?
[01:31] <Dr_willis> go read/learn ssh.. dont ask... just do it. :)
[01:31] <Dr_willis> !ssh
[01:31] <Noxes> but in general is it like Telnet?
[01:31] <Dr_willis> and forget all about telnet. :)
[01:31] <Dr_willis> it can be used to get a remote shell .. yes...
[01:31] <Noxes> Shell?   Would that be something like Shell Accounts?
[01:31] <Dr_willis> and 10000000+ other fetures
[01:31] <Noxes> Mhmm.
[01:31] <Dr_willis> what are you doing with telnet then if not getting a remote shell?
[01:31] <Dr_willis> ircing? :)
[01:31] <Noxes> Soo, can you only connect to shell accounts through SSH?
[01:32] <Noxes> Ubuntu sounds like such a good OS, why do people hate it?
[01:33] <Noxes> I mean Linux*
[01:33]  * mister-tea decides to sit this one out
 it can be used to get a remote shell .. yes..  <Dr_willis> and 10000000+ other fetures
[01:34] <Noxes> how old are you guys exactly?
[01:34] <Dr_willis> Proberly old enough to be your dad.. ;)
[01:34] <brandon__> 13
[01:34] <Noxes> lolol, im 14...
[01:35] <Dr_willis> Definatly old enough
[01:35] <Sokal-EC> well it seems as far as web development i was duped
[01:35] <Noxes> how old exactly, if you do not mind me asking
[01:35] <Sokal-EC> windows is way better
[01:35]  * mister-tea has kids twice his age
[01:35] <Dr_willis> Sokal-EC,  depends on your needs..
[01:36] <Dr_willis> Sokal-EC,  go back to windows then if you want.. i will stick with linux.
[01:36] <Noxes> Can I use linux to get my own Domain Name?
[01:36] <Sokal-EC> well seems if you need to do flash linux sux
[01:36] <Sokal-EC> lol
[01:36] <Dr_willis> the company making  'flash' sucks in its linux support....
[01:37] <Dr_willis> then again.. im not sure when web development  became totally dependant on flash...
[01:37] <Sokal-EC> maybe but the company making linux applications to edit flash also sux
[01:37] <Sokal-EC> so blah
[01:37] <Sokal-EC> its not
[01:38] <Sokal-EC> but at certain times we need to as per needs of the client
[01:38] <Sokal-EC> simple html is a thing of the past
[01:39] <Sokal-EC> and Kompozer is awesome but keeps crashing
[01:39] <Sokal-EC> so it stinks too
[01:40] <mister-tea> did you come to ask a question or just complain?
[01:40] <Sokal-EC> oh sorry i thought this was a kubuntu users channel
[01:40] <Sokal-EC> not simply a sit back and ask questins channel
[01:41] <Dr_willis> Official Kubuntu support
[01:41] <mister-tea> !kubuntu
[01:41] <Sokal-EC> is there such a channel where kubuntu users can go?
[01:41] <mister-tea> !#kubuntu
[01:41] <Dr_willis> !ot | Sokal-EC
[01:41] <Sokal-EC> ahhhh
[01:41] <Sokal-EC> ok kool
[01:41] <mister-tea> thanks Dr_willis
[01:42] <Sokal-EC> ok a question then
[01:42] <mister-tea> that was the factoid I was looking for
[01:42] <Sokal-EC> any linux apps that can actually open and edit flash?
[01:43] <EDinNY> Anyone know how to replace kde4 with kde3 in 8.1?
[01:44] <EDinNY> or do I re-install?
[01:45] <hoxtonhopper> hi Sokal-EC. I used kompozer a lot but finally abandoned it because of its crashes and hideous html production. [for those that don't know, kompozer is a fork of the WYSIWYG html editor nvu. the fork was done because nvu wasn't being maintained/bugfixed]
[01:45] <EDinNY> There must be a meta to install kde3?
[01:47]  * Sokal-EC-{Surfin is away: Gone away for now
[01:47] <Dr_willis> There are some Unoffical kde3 repos/packages for 8.10 - Ive not used them
[01:48]  * Sokal-EC is back.
[01:48] <jadylson> quem aqui usa o kurumin ?
[01:48] <mister-tea> !br
[01:49] <Sokal-EC> hoxtonhopper:  Any idea how to stop the crashes or is it just an unfixable thing
[01:49] <legodude_> any good way to monitor disk io?
[01:49] <legodude_> specifically IO/s and throughput?
[01:50] <hoxtonhopper> Sokal-EC: apart from submitting bug reports and getting involved in improving the software, no, sorry :)
[01:50] <Sokal-EC> wow that stinks lol
[01:51] <Sokal-EC> any clues as to an app that can edit .psd files?
[01:51] <hoxtonhopper> Sokal-EC: that's the nature of free software. some things are great, some less so. if you want to improve it, you can
[01:51] <Sokal-EC> i know adobe flash does but thats winblows
[01:52] <Sokal-EC> im not that technalogically savy
[01:52] <Sokal-EC> lol
[01:52] <Sokal-EC> i tried gimp but no luck
[01:52] <DarkriftX> anyone know an eggdrop that learns definitions like ubottu does but supports multiple words per definition?
[01:52] <Sokal-EC> f4l no luck
[01:53] <hoxtonhopper> essentially Flash is a non-free format, so isn't well supported
[01:54] <Sokal-EC> indeed
[01:58] <hoxtonhopper> Sokal-EC: I find that the GIMP opens PSD files OK. admittedly the files in question are from a few years ago but still...
[01:58] <Sokal-EC> it opens them fine but i cant change anything
[01:58] <hoxtonhopper> save them as the native GIMP format
[01:58] <Sokal-EC> hmm
[01:59] <Sokal-EC> didnt try that
[01:59] <hoxtonhopper> worth a try
[01:59] <hoxtonhopper> it's .xcf
[01:59] <Sokal-EC> ok
[02:00] <hoxtonhopper> then you can output your stuff as whatever you want, eg png, jpeg, tiff
[02:07]  * Sokal-EC-{Surfin is away: Gone away for now
[02:08] <ahmos> how i can make konqueror show video in thumbinails
[02:08] <powertool08> Could somebody help me with a UUID error? My two internal partitions used to show up under real names not UUID names, and my external used to show up as unmounted and would mount with one click, I have not changed fstab and do not want these disks in my fstab as it worked fine for me before. Change happened after restart and is similar to Bug #141564 but the hald-generate fix does not work
[02:12] <arcol> hello
[02:12] <arcol> hey i have a question about kde 4 and openoffice
[02:13] <arcol> i dont know what is happening but when i open openoffice the system seems crash
[02:13] <arcol> the taskbar dissapear
[02:13] <arcol> heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
[02:14] <Dr_willis> And what version of Openoffice are you using?
[02:14] <arcol> 3.0
[02:14] <arcol> but with 2.4 is the same
[02:15] <axy> hi
[02:15] <axy> alguien que hable español?
[02:15] <Dr_willis> I have heard others have OOo3 crashing Kubuntu in here befor.. No idea on a fix...
[02:15] <arcol> MMMM
[02:15] <arcol> because i dont know but for me is so importnant openoffece
[02:15] <arcol> si
[02:16] <arcol> what can i make
[02:16] <arcol> ?
[02:16] <axy> que pasa
[02:16] <arcol> because it is so bad
[02:16] <arcol> axy
[02:16] <axy> k paso arcol
[02:16] <arcol> anybody?????????
[02:16] <arcol> tengo un problema con openoffice
[02:17] <axy> k pasa?
[02:17] <arcol> cuando lo abro la barra de tareas de kde4 desaparece
[02:17] <arcol> o el sistema se torna complicado
[02:17] <axy> mmmm
[02:17] <arcol> what is teh solution
[02:17] <axy> tque version tienes?
[02:18] <arcol> 3.0
[02:18] <arcol> kde4
[02:18] <arcol> kubutnu 8.10
[02:18] <axy> y es reciente el poblema?
[02:18] <arcol> si
[02:18] <axy> rayos
[02:18] <arcol> porque
[02:18] <axy> alguna modificacion del sistema?
[02:18] <arcol> ?
[02:18] <mister-tea> !es
[02:19] <axy> ok, sorry
[02:20] <arcol> what must i make
[02:20] <arcol> nobody knows
[02:20] <arcol> ??????
[02:21] <muxomor> see error meessages
[02:21] <muxomor> kn logs
[02:21] <arcol> where????
[02:21] <muxomor> "/vr/log/"
[02:22] <muxomor> "/var/log/"
[02:22] <muxomor> sry
[02:22] <muxomor> there is syslog, kdmlog
[02:23] <arcol> and then
[02:23] <muxomor> or run Ksystemlog it will show you logs in gui
[02:23] <arcol> ?
[02:23] <muxomor> then see, if there are error msgs, warnings
[02:24] <muxomor> look at them and you may figure out, where is a problem
[02:24] <muxomor> post here, look in copy-paste in google
[02:25] <binMonkey> hi, guys.
[02:26] <binMonkey> i bought i pcmcia card that worked out of the box but it was slower than my bcm card with ndiswrapper.  does that make sense?
[02:27] <Dr_willis> Odd... trying to watch some flash videos at hulu.com   under opera the things play fine.. with their silly commerical at front and so forth.. under firefox - they like hang for a few min.. then play.. (some times)   Konqueror isent even aprently using the flash plugin.. :()
[02:41] <tacosarecool> hello
[02:43] <K`zan> Anyone here real familiar with memtest86?
[02:44]  * Sokal-EC is back.
[02:44] <K`zan> Got some kingston pc3200 RAM and am running memtest86+ on it, but it doesn't recognize the chipset the RAM is using.  Never seen that before and it strikes me as odd for kingston RAM?!?!?!
[02:45] <K`zan> Memtest86+ is running fine and not finding any issues with the RAM itself, just doesn't recognize the chipset?!?
[02:45] <binMonkey> i bought i pcmcia card that worked out of the box but it was slower than my bcm card with ndiswrapper.  does that make sense?  could my ndiswrapper install be slowing it down?
[02:45] <mini-man> 'ello, how the heck do I lower my DPI below 95? I'd like it to be 75...  I did edit my startx and restarted X, but no dice
[02:46] <tacosarecool> kzan !ram
[02:46] <tacosarecool> !ram kzan
[02:46] <tacosarecool> !ra,
[02:46] <tacosarecool> !ram
[02:46] <binMonkey> !ram | kzan
[02:46] <binMonkey> !ram | k'zan
[02:46] <SkEmO> what can i use to burn dvds on kubuntu?
[02:47] <SkEmO> !kburn xD
[02:47] <tacosarecool> burnaware free edition
[02:47] <tacosarecool> If your doing from windows
[02:47] <tacosarecool> or you can drag and drop the iso to the cd
[02:47] <tacosarecool> dvd
[02:47] <SkEmO> KDE doesent have any apt for defalt?
[02:47] <muxomor> дщд фтв црфе фищге л3и
[02:47] <muxomor> oops, what about k3b
[02:48] <muxomor> it is for default, open your eyes
[02:48] <SkEmO> uhm i dont have that
[02:48] <muxomor> hm
[02:48] <muxomor> k3b in console?
[02:48] <mister-tea> muxomor: what language is that?
[02:48] <SkEmO> lol i found it xD
[02:48] <muxomor> was russian lang, sry
[02:48] <muxomor> you see
[02:49] <mister-tea> no I enjoyed it  :-)
[02:50]  * mister-tea wonders how many letters are in the russian alphabet
[02:50] <muxomor> 33
[02:50] <muxomor> or so :)
[02:51] <powertool08> does anyone know if this is a suspicious command? in the past 3 days this command and similar ones have been run 9 times via sudo from a user that I created that I never login with
[02:51] <powertool08> /usr/bin/gconftool --get /system/http_proxy/use_http_proxy
[02:57] <binMonkey> i bought i pcmcia card that worked out of the box but it was slower than my bcm card with ndiswrapper.  does that make sense?  could my ndiswrapper install be slowing it down?
[02:58] <Donny> Hello I am attempting to Uninstall Kubuntu because it's just not for me - and I know that I'm going to have MBR problems after deleting the partitions.. I am attempting to do "sudo apt-get install ms-sys" and it's not finding ms-sys, which it should, and I'm reading the tutorial from this site, and it told me to make sure the Universal depository was open in the Adept and I did... I have Kubuntu 8.1 installed and I am currently running
[02:58] <Donny> the 8.1 LiveCD. Can anybody help?
[02:59] <alexbobp> I upgraded to kubuntu 8.10, and I miss KDE 3.5.  Is there a way to get it back?
[03:00] <bazhang> alexbobp, no
[03:01] <nickv111> Hey, does anyone in here know of a program that can intercept data going to /dev/dsp and save it to be played later?
[03:05] <pepe> hola
[03:05] <Donny> Hello I am attempting to Uninstall Kubuntu because it's just not for me - and I know that I'm going to have MBR problems after deleting the partitions.. I am attempting to do "sudo apt-get install ms-sys" and it's not finding ms-sys, which it should, and I'm reading the tutorial from this site, and it told me to make sure the Universal depository was open in the Adept and I did... I have Kubuntu 8.1 installed and I am currently running
[03:05] <Donny> the 8.1 LiveCD. Can anybody help?
[03:05] <pepe> no se que es esto
[03:05] <bazhang> !es
[03:07] <Donny> Can nobody help?
[03:07] <blendroid> how come when I bring up the apt-get install for firefox, it says "After this operation, 114MB of additional disk space will be used."  firefox is most definitely not that big, so what could it possibly be preparing to download?
[03:11] <Hydrogen> all of gnome...
[03:17] <blendroid> hydrogen: oh... just noticed that was directed at me, and now that I look back at the konsole, that is what it wants to do...
[03:17] <blendroid> is there any way I can download *just* the program?
[03:18] <blendroid> either that, or get flashplayer to work in my unzipped-tarball-type installation
[03:18] <Hydrogen> yea
[03:18] <Hydrogen> --no-reccomends or something
[03:18] <Hydrogen> i forget the exact command
[03:18] <blendroid> ah, thanks
[03:18] <blendroid> I'll google around
[03:21] <tbr281> what other browser can i use on kubuntu 8.10 besides konqueror and firefox?
[03:21] <Hydrogen> opera!
[03:22] <tbr281> is it in the repo's?
[03:25] <jared> hi
[03:25] <corigo> One feature I'm really missing is placing the mouse over the network connection and it displaying my IP. How can I get my current IP information at the command line?
[03:27] <Dragnslcr> ifconfig
[03:51] <mwilson_> hello...
[03:51] <mwilson_> have a quick one.
[03:51] <mwilson_> I have a XFi sound card..  compiled the new drivers from creative via make and make install...
[03:51] <mwilson_> so, now, what do I have to do to apply them.  A bit new to this.  :)
[03:52] <Israphel> modprobe module_name
[03:52] <dsmith_> where are the desktop panel config files located?
[03:52] <dsmith_> I accidently deleted mine
[03:53] <dsmith_> .kde  ??
[03:53] <Israphel> all ins in .kde
[03:53] <Israphel> all is*
[03:53] <Dr_willis> when you log out/back in - it shoudl restore default files..
[03:53] <mwilson_> oookay, how do I know the module name
[03:53] <mwilson_> ?
[03:54] <dsmith_> I remove some panels by mistake
[03:54] <Israphel> thats the part I don't know
[03:54] <mwilson_> I see a couple of module files in the directory.
[03:54] <dsmith_> let me restore .kde and see if that works
[03:55] <alexbobp> what's the pdf reader in kde4?  kpdf doesn't seem to work.
[03:56] <dsmith_> evince?
[03:56] <dsmith_> I love sbackup
[03:56] <szyszeja> hi
[03:56] <szyszeja> how can i use bluetooth's devices on kde4?
[03:57] <alexbobp> evince is the gnome program
[03:57] <szyszeja> kbluetooth4-devicemanager don't work...
[03:57] <alexbobp> well I just realized konqueror could open it directly, so I'm fine.
[03:57] <mwilson_> man, Gimp is a fantastic program once you get into it...
[03:57] <bill_> came some one answere a quick question?
[03:58] <bill_> when Ubuntu boots up, it gives an error message bout memmory and changing something in my bios
[03:58] <bill_> what is it?
[03:59] <mwilson_> I assume reboot after adding the module?
[03:59] <bill_> no, does this when it boots up
[03:59] <bill_> it flashes by real quick
[04:00] <bill_> and all i know is it says to change a bios setting, but i can't see which it is
[04:00] <bill_> too fast
[04:00] <bill_> any thoughts?
[04:01] <Dr_willis> You can often hit the scroll lock key to pause the messages
[04:01] <Dr_willis> or ctrl-s/ctrl-q
[04:01] <Dr_willis> Mine says somthing about 'apature size, too small, 32mb will be lost' or somthing lik that.
[04:01] <Dr_willis> On a  64bit ubuntu install here
[04:02] <dsmith_> thks guys restoring .kde worked
[04:02] <dsmith_> <---big believer in daily backups
[04:03] <bill_> so it's apature size that needs to be changed in the bios?
[04:03] <Dr_willis> yea i think so.. but i never saw that setting in my laptops bios
[04:04] <bill_> weird
[04:04] <Dr_willis> 4gb ram.. 64bit disrto here.. I dont recall seeing the same message on 32bit live cd.. but not sure on that.
[04:04] <Dr_willis> Not all bios's have all the tweaks. :)
[04:04] <bill_> yeah, it's the 64bit flaver, got an AMD 6400+
[04:05] <bill_> so it doesn't affect ubuntu for this thing coming up then?
[04:05] <jabrroa> i have a AMD 9850 BLACK quad core
[04:06] <jabrroa> works like heaven
[04:06] <jabrroa> wit 64
[04:06] <mwilson_> anyone played with the new ultimate ubuntu 2.0?
[04:06] <mwilson_> any good?
[04:06] <Dr_willis> i have no real problems.. i think its mainly saying you are loseing a little bit of ram
[04:06] <Dr_willis> I dont see much point in the 'ultimate ubuntu' stuff..
[04:07] <Dr_willis> last i checked it out.. they just installed a lot of packages by default..  stuff i dont need.
[04:07] <mwilson_> my understanding is that he did a lot of the common things people install anyways and put it in at the start..
[04:07] <mwilson_> newer kernel too...
[04:07] <mwilson_> perhaps in a virtualbox I'll try it.
[04:08] <Dr_willis> thats proberly the safest way. :)
[04:08] <bill_> virtualbox rules
[04:08] <Dr_willis> I just made my own little batch file that downlaods/installs/tweaks a normal ubuntu install. to be what i want. :)
[04:08] <mwilson_> one complaint about all of these distros...   I want to install the new LyX 1.6.0.1...   repos only have the 1.5.6.0.  the problem I find is that they are everywhere...  I have know idea how the .DEB system is moving these programs and data about.  It's different from debian, to gentoo..  etc...
[04:09] <mwilson_> virtualbox better than vmware?
[04:09] <bill_> it's free
[04:09] <bill_> sun makes it
[04:10] <mwilson_> I know it's free and Sun.
[04:10] <mwilson_> lol.
[04:10] <mwilson_> just curious on it's abilities over theirs.
[04:11] <bill_> not real sure, never fooled with vmware tbh
[04:11] <jabrroa> VOX IS BETTER
[04:11] <jabrroa> VBOX*
[04:12] <bill_> hmmm, don't know that one
[04:12] <jabrroa> virtual box.....
[04:12] <jabrroa> vbox
[04:12] <Hydrogen> virtualbox is very similar to vmware
[04:12] <bill_> the one MS makes it total crap
[04:12] <Hydrogen> as in, almost identical
[04:12] <jabrroa> but its free and better
[04:12] <mwilson_> hmmm.  k.  Ok, time to reboot and see if these Labs drivers work.
[04:12] <mwilson_> brb
[04:13] <andrew__> Quick question... Is anyone else having a problem with their Kopete plug-ins not working?
[04:15] <jabrroa> hey can i text off my yahoo using kopete?
[04:15] <kyle__> hello
[04:16] <kyle__> does anyone know how to download and install "Java" on Ubuntu 8.10?
[04:16] <mwilson_> ok guys.   the xFi drive is in, it's activated so it says.. but no sound.
[04:16] <mwilson_> how does one tell it to use the card and not the on board sound system?
[04:17] <powertool08> kyle__: its in a package called jre something
[04:17] <jabrroa> one changes the device lol
[04:17] <mwilson_> oookay.
[04:17] <jabrroa> lol
[04:17] <jabrroa> hold up
[04:17] <kyle__> when i click . ".exe" it says like error can not read file type.
[04:17] <jabrroa> lol
[04:17] <bill_> disable the onborad audio in ur bios
[04:18] <jabrroa> yea there ya go
[04:18] <powertool08> kyle__: sudo aptitude install sun-java6-jre
[04:18] <mwilson_> lol...
[04:18] <mwilson_> DOH...
[04:18] <bill_> lol
[04:18] <bill_> i c what u did there
[04:18] <jabrroa> :) hehe
[04:19] <kyle__> i kinda have no clue what i'm doing...i'm brand new to ubuntu
[04:19] <jabrroa> .exe must have wine
[04:19] <jabrroa> to emulate it..... its window$
[04:19] <powertool08> kyle__: .exe is a windows program format, linux won't open it without wine
[04:19] <bill_> wine, i can't make it do anything. I got it to run Office2003
[04:19] <bill_> and doom
[04:19] <jabrroa> i win
[04:20] <jabrroa> :)
[04:20] <kyle__> were do i get wine?
[04:20] <jabrroa> winehq.org
[04:20] <kyle__> k
[04:20] <powertool08> kyle__: most of the time you don't need it, there are alternatives
[04:20] <jabrroa> or use synaptic
[04:20] <jabrroa> i use crossover :)
[04:20] <OxDeadC0de> jabrroa adept in kubuntu
[04:21] <OxDeadC0de> synaptic for regular ubuntu
[04:21] <jabrroa> i know but i have both :)
[04:21] <OxDeadC0de> me too ;)
[04:21] <jabrroa> cuz im awesome
[04:21] <szyszeja> how can i use bluetooth's device on kubuntu 810 (kde4)
regular=mediocre. Kubuntu is the elite ubuntu!</flamebait>
[04:21] <OxDeadC0de> i use xover games now, since they had that free day, that was sweet
[04:21] <ptl> please don't kick me, it was just a joke :)
[04:21] <szyszeja> kbluetooth4 dont works
[04:22] <andrew__> I am having a problem with my Translator and Now Listening Plugins in Kopete, anyone have the same issues? Or know why they arent working?
[04:22] <ptl> yes, it doesn't
[04:22] <powertool08> kyle__: open a konsole/command prompt/terminal whatever you wish to call it and type "sudo aptitude install sun-java6-jre" hit enter and it will install java for you
[04:22] <OxDeadC0de> lol we're all in kubuntu, why would we think  you're wrong? :P
[04:22] <ptl> use gnome-bluetooth instead
[04:22] <kyle__> ok
[04:22] <kyle__> wait
[04:22] <kyle__> need to download java again
[04:22] <powertool08> kyle__:  you don't need to download it
[04:22] <kyle__> i emtied my trash..
[04:22] <kyle__> oh
[04:23] <kyle__> i dont?
[04:23] <powertool08> kyle__: that command will download it from kubuntu's software repositories and install it for you
[04:23] <shinobi2> how to tell if i have tomcat installed?
[04:24] <kyle__> umm
[04:24] <kyle__> is that all powertool?
[04:25] <mwilson_> oookay.  onboard sound is off..   still nothing.  sound prefs even crashed.  eh eh eh.
[04:25] <powertool08> kyle__: in most cases it is, if you need it for web browsing try closing and restarting your browser and see if everything works
[04:25] <liu> 有没有朋友知道 Kubuntu怎么打开网上邻居
[04:25] <kyle__> powertool08 after i type that and hit enter and that stuff all says "Done..." am i done?
[04:25] <kyle__> oh
[04:25] <kyle__> ok
[04:26] <mwilson_> failing to connect to the stream.
[04:26] <liu> 有没有朋友知道 Kubuntu怎么打开网上邻居
[04:26] <mwilson_> is there a hot key setup to open a konsole?
[04:26] <mwilson_> hehe
[04:26] <dabud>  i installed ubuntu with a minimalCD and have done something wrong when i partitioned my hard drives which has put some essential files on the wrong drive   can this be changed?
[04:27] <shinobi2> liu, who?
[04:27] <liu> novice
[04:27] <liu> from china
[04:28] <shinobi2> liu, you think i how help you?
[04:28] <kyle__> powertool08: it isnt working my web browser still wont support java
[04:29] <holycow> mwilson_: not the same mwilson from #debian?
[04:29] <powertool08> kyle__: which browser are you using?
[04:29] <mwilson_> holycow: is he a dev or something?  There is another mwilson somewhere on all the time.
[04:29] <colton> How can I change the sound effects on kubuntu?
[04:29] <kyle__> powertool08: deafult( mozilla firefox)
[04:29] <szyszeja> ptl: hi
[04:30] <szyszeja> gnome-bluetooth didn't work
[04:30] <mwilson_> holycow: I don't see him in debian right now though.
[04:30] <holycow> heh no he got banned from there
[04:30] <ptl> szyszeja: to me too :(
[04:30] <holycow> he is the world biggest asshole
[04:30] <powertool08> kyle__: mind if i ask what site is giving you problems?
[04:30] <holycow> more of an asshole than me even
[04:30] <holycow> lol
[04:30] <mwilson_> oh, not me.   :)  I'm more just a painin the ass.
[04:30] <mwilson_> so, any idea on how to get this xfi card to activate?
[04:30] <mwilson_> :)
[04:30] <kyle__> powertool08: personal site...
[04:31] <holycow> mwilson_: not sure, what is an xfi card?
[04:31] <powertool08> kyle__: ok, just thinking for comparing with my setup, anyway, java is enabled in your browser preferences i assume?
[04:32] <mwilson_> holycow: it's the newer soundblaster cards, lol.  They released a driver, I compiled and installed it..  then went back and turned off my bois/motherboard audio.
[04:32] <liu> Want to learn linux
[04:32] <mwilson_> can't get the thing to work.  :)
[04:32] <kyle__> powertool08: yes it is
[04:32] <holycow> mwilson_: did you reboot or modprobed the drivers?
[04:33] <mwilson_> holycow: not sure what else to do.  It shows up in the 3rd party hardware as being in use.  The install did the modprobe, they are in use
[04:33] <liu> I would like to open the my Network places
[04:33] <jabrroa> how would i fix a dns error?
[04:33] <kyle__> is anyone here using Windows XPor Vista?
[04:33] <powertool08> kyle__: sudo aptitude install java-common (might have been installed earlier as a dependency)
[04:33] <mwilson_> jabrroa: you need to find a new DNS server.
[04:34] <holycow> mwilson_: troubleshooting sound related issues is kind of challenging ... the ubunt forums have an entire thread on how to troubleshoot sound issues
[04:34] <holycow> lots of good techniques there, have you looked?
[04:34] <jabrroa> like? lol
[04:34] <liu> like ip address
[04:34] <jabrroa> i use vita or used
[04:35] <jabrroa> *vista
[04:35] <mwilson_> holycow: what site for the forums.
[04:35] <mwilson_> ?
[04:35] <jabrroa> ok ip address lol
[04:35] <holycow> ubuntuforums.org
[04:35] <kyle__> powertool08: still don't work.
[04:36] <jabrroa> i have super LOWWWWW audio
[04:36] <shinobi2> why tomcat is not a buntu supported /maintained app? synaptic did display ubuntu logo
[04:36] <liu> I would now like to sleep
[04:36] <liu> you are go on
[04:37] <shinobi2> tomcat feels like an essential  app.
[04:37] <powertool08> kyle__: i also have this package installed: sun-java6-plugin
[04:39] <kyle__> sudo aptitude install sun-java6-plugin ??
[04:39] <powertool08> kyle__: yes
[04:40] <kyle__> still not working powertool08
[04:41] <kyle__> powertool08: if i told you what for would you be able to help more?
[04:42] <powertool08> kyle__: probably not, I was just thinking it would be easier to compare our settings and make sure its working for me and not broken for everyone
[04:42] <powertool08> kyle__: you could try asking in #ubuntu, its a busier channel
[04:42] <kyle__> powertool: maybe if i did tell you it could help?
[04:43] <powertool08> kyle__: possibly but unlikely, its up to you
[04:43] <mwilson_> Man, Konsole is acting funny..   VERY funny...
[04:43] <jabrroa> lol
[04:43] <jabrroa> y?
[04:43] <holycow> is it winking at you?
[04:44] <holycow> singing and dancing?
[04:44] <holycow> wait, thats not funny
[04:44] <holycow> lol whats it doing?
[04:44] <kyle__> powertool08: my son went over to a friends house and played a game with him online called "runescape".. i don't know what it's about and he wants to play but i need java to work it..the website is called "runescape.com"
[04:45] <holycow> kyle__: install the sun java jre from the repos
[04:45] <holycow> that is all  you need
[04:45] <mwilson_> f'it.  I'm getting a nice turtle beach card.  :)
[04:45] <holycow> tomcat btw, is NOT something you need
[04:45] <jabrroa> lol
[04:46] <kyle__> holycow: how would i do that?
[04:46] <holycow> apt-cache search java sun
[04:46] <holycow> ah here we go
[04:46] <holycow> udo apt-get install sun-java6-jre
[04:46] <holycow> sudo even
[04:46] <jabrroa> *sudo
[04:47] <shinobi2> how to check what's in the repository for buntu 8.10?
[04:47] <jabrroa> lol
[04:47] <jabrroa> ubuntu
[04:47] <shinobi2> i want to find out if tomcat 6 is in there
[04:47] <holycow> shinobi2: apt-cache search whateveryouwanttosearchfor
[04:47] <powertool08> kyle__: sun-java6-bin also if we missed that earlier
[04:47] <shinobi2> holycow, for 8.10? i am on 8.04
[04:48] <holycow> why would you think commands make a difference between versions?
[04:49] <kyle__> still not working guys
[04:49] <holycow> !java
[04:49] <mwilson_> man, konsole scrolling from the bottom of the windows is REAALLLLY messed up.
[04:49] <holycow> kyle__: installing java jre i gave you is all you need BUT
[04:50] <holycow> it sounds like you have been screwing around quite a bit
[04:50] <holycow> y ou probably hosed something
[04:50] <powertool08> kyle__: I don't know, you should have all the packages installed that I have
[04:50] <holycow> uninstall ALL versions of anything java related first
[04:50] <holycow> reinstall what i told you
[04:50] <holycow> then
[04:50] <jabrroa> i have A DNS ERROR
[04:50] <holycow> go to the link in that bot
[04:50] <holycow> there is a section there that tells you how to check what version of java you have set as default
[04:51] <jabrroa> Error releasing ip address: cannot find file specified
[04:51] <holycow> there is a command you can run to select the default version of java on your system (as you can run multiple versions concurrently if you want/need to)
[04:51] <holycow> kyle__: give that a try and see how far you get
[04:51] <kyle__> how do i uninstall all java?
[04:51] <powertool08> kyle__: use the aptitude command but do reinstall instead of install
[04:52] <holycow> what he said, yes
[04:53] <holycow> or if you want to do it visually use synaptic
[04:54] <kyle__> whats better in peoples opinion..."Kubuntu" or "Ubuntu"
[04:55] <holycow> well better is subjective
[04:55] <holycow> i happen to like kde4 a whole lot
[04:55] <powertool08> kyle__: they are basically the same thing, just a matter of preference on a few programs and alittle bit of looks
[04:55] <kyle__> whats the best FREE OS?
[04:55] <jabrroa> kubuntu is better looking and more sys resources
[04:56] <jabrroa> BACKTRACK 3!!!!
[04:56] <jabrroa> BEST EVER lol
[04:56] <jabrroa> :)
[05:01] <bill_> how many ppl dual boot?
[05:01] <bill_> i dual boot vista and ubuntu
[05:02] <bill_> vista is for Combat Arms, if i could get it to run under ubuntu i would only use Ubuntu
[05:02] <powertool08> I technically dual boot, I have an XP partition I never deleted from my pre-ubuntu days, but I never reboot to use it
[05:02] <bill_> lol
[05:02] <bill_> u must not play any games?
[05:03] <jabrroa> i Pla crysis :)
[05:03] <powertool08> not anymore
[05:03] <bill_> in windows?
[05:03] <jabrroa> 32 gb corsair dominator and three nvidia 9800 gtx ultra's 1gb each :)
[05:03] <jabrroa> SLI
[05:03] <jabrroa> and yes
[05:03] <bill_> or did u get crysis to run in linux?
[05:03] <jabrroa> vista
[05:03] <bill_> oh word
[05:04] <jabrroa> wit my nice quad amd
[05:04] <jabrroa> and nitrogen cooling
[05:04] <jabrroa> :)
[05:04] <jabrroa> i play it alot
[05:04] <bill_> nitro cooling, ur rig must have cost some $$$$
[05:05] <bill_> makes my zalman look like a paper weight
[05:05] <jabrroa> i made it lol
[05:05] <jabrroa> just over 5 ft tall
[05:06] <bill_> i've always built my systems, but i don't think i would attempt one like urs
[05:07] <jabrroa> dude i dont look god but its nice :)
[05:07] <jabrroa> it
[05:07] <jabrroa> *it
[05:07] <jabrroa> not i lol
[05:07] <bill_> right
[05:07] <bill_> lol
[05:07] <jabrroa> i look like orlando bloom lol jk
[05:07] <jabrroa> i look better haha
[05:09] <jabrroa> i have seven PCi X16 2.0 slots 2 slots wide each :)
[05:10] <bill_> nice
[05:10] <bill_> u like Ati or Nvidia
[05:11] <jabrroa> nvidia i guess... i dont really care but i use nvidia :) its a beast but i am my city power bill :( 4500 WATTS
[05:11] <jabrroa> lol
[05:25] <sjdurfey> i have everything for Qt4 installed (designer, translator, assistant), but whenever i try to access the assistant tool via the designer, it fails to launch by telling me that its not installed, when it is. anyone know how i can fix this?
[05:34] <ptl> I am. Who isn't?
[05:35] <jabrroa> what?
[05:44] <tbr281> where can i find flash plugin for opera?
[05:44] <tbr281> on kubuntu 8.10
[05:46] <jabrroa> hmmm google? my best answer.... im newerer to linux
[05:46] <nohto> from the adobe website
[05:47] <jabrroa> their ya go bro
[05:47] <jabrroa> well gtg guys.... g'night
[05:48] <eightmillion> i'm going to ask this question in here since #amarok is apparently only used for idling
[05:48] <eightmillion> does anyone know a way I can see how many songs and albums are in my collection in amarok 2?
[05:49] <jabrroa> count :)
[05:49] <jabrroa> lol idk i dont use it
[05:49] <eightmillion> that may take a couple days
[05:49] <jabrroa> lol
[05:50] <jabrroa> same here
[05:50] <chiefwigms> hey guys - question for you - i gotta recompile the kubuntu 8.04.1 kernel (my system says its 2.6.24.21-generic)
[05:51] <chiefwigms> but i can't find it on kernel.org... any ideas?
[05:51] <holycow> well the source is in the repos
[05:53] <Daisuke_Ido> the bigger questions is "why do you *have* to recompile the kernel?"
[05:53] <Daisuke_Ido> question*
[05:54] <chiefwigms> i got a umpc that has enables tap-touching which is extremely annoying
[05:55] <chiefwigms> apparently the only way to fix it is to recompile alps.c with some mods
[05:55] <Daisuke_Ido> ah...  can't be disabled via synaptics?
[05:55] <Daisuke_Ido> that sucks :\
[05:55] <chiefwigms> nope
[05:55] <chiefwigms> :(
[05:55] <Daisuke_Ido> yeah, you can grab the kernel source via the repos, probably the easiest way
[05:56] <chiefwigms> so linux-source-2.6.24 should have all the patches that kubuntu had? so i just modify what i want?
[06:04] <ectospasm> I've got a slow laptop, and KDE4 is just reacting too slow...
[06:05] <ectospasm> Is there any reason to believe ubuntu-desktop will be more responsive?
[06:20] <BigMike> ???? I have ubuntu 7 and I installed KDE desktop but the wireless signal keeps dropping in KDE but not in gnome any one have any ideas why???
[06:25] <andrew__> eightmillion - didnt look in amarok for the quickest way to do it, but you could always go to where your songs/albums/or artists are and click once, press control+A and then press enter and it will go into a playlist and will show you at the bottom, hope that helps
[06:34] <noaXess> good morning
[06:35] <bill_> can't sleep so i'm downloading opensolaris for fun
[06:42] <noaXess> does anybody also have little grafical problem with the main panel? eg. the systray icons sometimes invisible, the clock is blinking.. end also eg. the klipper tool icon is white
[06:42] <Wicked> where can i get the old konqueror service menus?
[06:42] <Tm_T> noaXess: with nVidia?
[06:42] <Wicked> i dont have any of the ones i used to have...like the ark one
[06:42] <noaXess> Tm_T: yep..
[06:43] <Tm_T> noaXess: rumour says it's bug in driver
[06:43] <noaXess> Tm_T: in the 177.80?
[06:43] <Tm_T> noaXess: that too
[06:45] <noaXess> Tm_T: is there any workaround.. or just wait for.. what?
[06:46] <Tm_T> noaXess: workaround: don't use nvidia, or wait for them to really fix even simplest issues
[06:46] <noaXess> Tm_T: have a notebook.. :) can't change graficcard ;)
[06:47] <Wicked> where can i get the old konqueror service menus?
[06:47] <Tm_T> noaXess: oh well, glad I don't have that issue in same scope anymore, KDE 4.2 does it better
[06:47] <Tm_T> Wicked: dunno, I have them
[06:48] <noaXess> Tm_T: is KDE 4.2 available from source?
[06:48] <Wicked> on a fresh install of 8.10 i only have "open with ark" not the extract to or add to archive options
[06:48] <Wicked> i installed both konq-plugins and konqueror-plugins
[06:48] <Tm_T> noaXess: no, not yet, takes to end of january until it's released
[06:48] <noaXess> ok
[06:48] <PSiL0> http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Extract+And+Compress+KDE4?content=84206
[06:49] <PSiL0> for wicked
[06:49] <mrbeano> grrr
[06:49] <mrbeano> piece of junk freezes on install
[06:49] <Wicked> perfect. thanks PSiL0 ....i been googling for ove 20 mins now
[06:49] <PSiL0> now, if anyone can get the applets to work on cairo-dock
[06:49] <PSiL0> i guess i have to enable compiz for that to happen...
[06:50] <mrbeano> god damn it
[06:50] <PSiL0> is there a good dock laucher that runs remotely well on kde 4?
[06:50] <PSiL0> i wasn't to impressed with awn
[06:51] <PSiL0> cairo-dock is the closest to far, but it is crippled to only serve as a program launcher
[07:03] <noaXess> i have tree nvidia device sections in xorg.conf http://paste.ubuntu.com/73249/
[07:03] <noaXess> the firt two are the same, right?
[07:04] <noaXess> the third is for the external connector?
[07:04] <PSiL0> !dashboard
[07:26] <phannguyenhung> hi all
[07:26] <phannguyenhung> I need some help
[07:27] <maxbaldwin> what could be some reasons that 'kdesudo adept_manager --dist-upgrade' doesn't respond/do anything?
[07:27] <maxbaldwin> when upgrading from 8.04 to 8.10
[07:27] <sigma> why is it that when you remove .avi file extensions in kde4 the file keeps its association to a video app, but when you do the same to a .rmvb and certain .mp4 files they lose the associations?
[07:46] <ubuntu__> hi
[07:46] <ubuntu__> i cant make my ubuntu work
[07:46] <ubuntu__> can you helps me
[07:46] <ubuntu__> how do i create foldier
[07:47] <ubuntu__> this is a gay nigger
[07:47] <ubuntu__> i has no idea how uubtuntu workss
[07:47] <Tm_T> ubuntu__: please behave, son
[07:47] <ubuntu__> how do i behave?
[07:52] <beta-guy> when I tried to compile a kernel (first time I got this message Install ncurses (ncurses-devel) and try again but adept doesn't show this library
[07:52] <Tm_T> beta-guy: did you do search?
[07:52] <beta-guy> yeah
[07:52] <beta-guy> I'm just fetching a new list of packages seeing if that'll help
[07:53] <Tm_T> beta-guy: it's prolly libncurses-dev or similar
[07:53] <beta-guy> Tm_T: know of any good webpages on compiling kernels
[07:53] <beta-guy> ?
[07:53] <Tm_T> !kernel | beta-guy
[07:54] <beta-guy> I'm a noob
[07:54] <ptl> !gnu
[07:56] <noaXess> how can i enable more rightclick options in dolphin or konqueror filemanager? like compress file, extract files..?
[07:59] <beta-guy> Should I try compiling a kernel within VMware first, to avoid issues?
[07:59] <beta-guy> I want the experience
[07:59] <beta-guy> learn more about linux
[08:01] <ikyn> anyone here a kismet user, by chance?
[08:07] <ubuntu__> do you love bill gates
[08:07] <ubuntu__> i certanly do
[08:07] <ubuntu__> everytime he releases a windows i love to suck his dick
[08:07] <ubuntu__> anybody there?
[08:10] <beta-guy> thank you
[08:11] <sigma> dam what was up with that guy
[08:11] <Tm_T> nothing, move along
[09:15] <bartolin> ¿Alguien sabe cómo añadir otra distribución de teclado en Kubunto 8.10? Durante la instalación del sistema instalé la distribución en eeespañol y necesito instalar la distribución en ruso. Gracias
[09:16] <jussi01_> !es
[09:20] <histo> Is there a way to get the kde menu back?
[09:20] <histo> I added the widget back but it doesn't look the same now
[09:21] <histo> its just a normal borin menu
[09:21] <histo> brb
[09:29] <histo> okay back now. So is there a way to restore the default kde menu? It disappeared.  If I try to add widget and then put a application launcher on there its not the same.
[09:32] <histo> anyone have this problem? I rebooted and the kicker went nutz and lost the K menu
[09:42] <BobHope> hey all
[09:42] <BobHope> can somebody give me a hand installing this thing? Having problems.
[09:43] <_spm_Draget> dpkg --configure ldap-auth-client says that the package is already installed and configured. But I was never asked for the configuration. How can I force it or remove the configuration?
[09:47] <Dolo> anyone using compiz know how to switch to 4 desktops instead of 4 virtual desktops?
[09:48] <bartolin> Anyone here knows how to add another keyboard layout in kubuntu 8.10? During installation of the distribution system put in Castilian Spanish, and I need to add distribution in Russian. I appreciate suggestions. Thank you
[09:51] <theFariztha> hi anybody, how can i detect my vga card. i'm using ubuntu 7.10 and my vga is ati radeon x1200. Anyone can help me?
[09:54] <tonyf> Hello anyone willing to help sort a screen resolution issue for a kubuntu newbie
[10:02] <delicowa> hi y'all
[10:02] <delicowa> I amtring to create an array in c
[10:02] <delicowa> but when I try to print out the value of a string I get errors
[10:02] <delicowa> and if it compiles successfully I don't get the string printed]
[10:03] <delicowa> help pleas
[10:03] <delicowa> HELP PLEASE
[10:03] <delicowa> HELP PLEASE
[10:03] <bentob0x> I installed packages this morning (adept update), where can I find the name of the packages that were updated
[10:03] <student13x> aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa siema
[10:03] <delicowa> ANY ONE WAKE UP PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[10:04] <delicowa> OK I suppose I need to paste myprogram here
[10:04] <delicowa> #include <stdio.h>
[10:05] <delicowa>  int main()
[10:05] <delicowa> {
[10:05] <delicowa>  char name[2];
[10:05] <delicowa>   name[0]="chioma";
[10:05] <delicowa>  name[1]="okpah";
[10:05] <delicowa>    printf("%s\n",*name[1]);
[10:05] <delicowa> }
[10:05] <delicowa> #include <stdio.h>
[10:06] <delicowa>  int main()
[10:06] <delicowa> {
[10:06] <delicowa>  char name[2];
[10:06] <delicowa>   name[0]="chioma";
[10:06] <delicowa>  name[1]="okpah";
[10:06] <delicowa>    printf("%s\n",*name[1]);
[10:06] <delicowa> }
[10:06] <delicowa> what am I doing wrong
[10:06] <delicowa> #include <stdio.h>
[10:06] <tonyf> A string in C is an array of chars
[10:06] <delicowa>  int main()
[10:06] <delicowa> {
[10:06] <delicowa>  char name[2];
[10:06] <delicowa>   name[0]="chioma";
[10:06] <delicowa>  name[1]="okpah";
[10:06] <delicowa>    printf("%s\n",*name[1]);
[10:06] <delicowa> }
[10:07] <delicowa> WAAAAAAAAAAAKE UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUPPPPPP?
[10:07] <tonyf> name[0] ='e'
[10:07] <delicowa> hopeless ...........
[10:07] <delicowa> finalement THank you
[10:08] <delicowa> ok then  when the program compiles successfully it doesn't print out the whole string instead it prints out some numbers or simply segmentation error
[10:08] <delicowa> what is wrong
[10:09] <tonyf> C is like that it will compile
[10:10] <tonyf> it praobaly thinks C[0] is some sort of pointer
[10:10] <histo> anyone have a system monitor plasmoid that works?
[10:10] <tonyf> the way to do it is declare an array of characters
[10:11] <tonyf> and use strcpy to assign
[10:12] <tonyf> should be done like this
[10:13] <histo> !kdeplasmoids
[10:13] <tonyf>  char   sThisChar2[10] = {0};
[10:13] <histo> !info kdeplasmoids
[10:13] <jonasbet> hi
[10:13] <jonasbet> does anyone know how to mount a dvd?
[10:14] <tonyf> strncpy (sThisChar,&gsLogLine[0],3);
[10:15] <tonyf> use mount specifiying path to the dvd followed by mount point
[10:16] <jonasbet> dvd mount /media/dvd
[10:16] <tonyf> can anyone help with my request
[10:16] <jonasbet> for example this?
[10:16] <tonyf> I've just answerded 2 qustions
[10:16] <tonyf> Hello anyone willing to help sort a screen resolution issue for a kubuntu newbie
[10:16] <histo> jonasbet: sudo mkdir /media/dvd && sudo mount /dev/sdx
[10:16] <tonyf> ill , find a mount example just a sec
[10:18] <bartolin> Anyone here knows how to add another keyboard layout in kubuntu 8.10? During installation of the distribution system put in Castilian Spanish, and I need to add distribution in Russian. I appreciate suggestions. Thank yo
[10:18] <tonyf> /dev/sda1 /mnt/sda1  where /dev/sda1 is the DVD
[10:18] <ActionParsnip> !keyboard
[10:19] <noaXess1> before i upgraded 8.04 to 8.10 i had kde3, kde4 remix.. now my 8.10 works.. but there are a lot of packages installed with packagename ???-kde4..
[10:19] <noaXess1> should they be removed?
[10:19] <bartolin> Thanks tuottu
[10:19] <tonyf> my resolution issues for anyone willing to help is regarding kiubuntu 8.10
[10:19] <tonyf> i get a scrambled screen on login after install
[10:20] <tonyf> will work fine with safe graphics from live CD
[10:20] <ActionParsnip> tonyf: what gfx card you got?
[10:20] <tonyf> How do I change the Thanks intel 965
[10:21] <tonyf> have tried findling with Xorg.conf
[10:21] <ActionParsnip> !i810 | tonyf
[10:21] <ActionParsnip> tonyf: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/i810
[10:21] <ActionParsnip> i hate those intel things
[10:21] <tonyf> thank you
[10:21] <tonyf> Opps
[10:22] <tonyf> please don't hate me for this but]
[10:22] <tonyf> im' a windows developer of some 20 years and
[10:22] <tonyf> trying very hard
[10:22] <tonyf> to switch to kubuntu
[10:22] <tonyf> I HATE VISTA
[10:23] <histo> Yeah i'm banging my head against the wall trying to switch from gnome to kde. Can't install a god damn widget
[10:23] <noaXess1> tonyf: good choice..
[10:23] <noaXess1> switching i mean ;)
[10:23] <tonyf> thank you so painful at the moment though
[10:23] <tonyf> have all theses years of window
[10:23] <ThomasD> tonyf: you'll get there, give it some time ;-)
[10:23] <tonyf> experience its like trying to
[10:23] <histo> Are there currently any working plasmoids
[10:23] <tonyf> learn to walk again
[10:23] <histo> ?????????/
[10:24] <noaXess1> after a upgrade from 8.04 kde4 remix to 8.10.. what about all the ???-kde4 packages? how can i remove them automatically?
[10:25] <tonyf> Actionparsnip what is the general procedure for trying to set graphics when the screen is scrambled
[10:25] <tonyf> is there a safe mode soft of thing ?
[10:25] <ActionParsnip> tonyf: boot to recovery mode in grub menu (esc when grub loads)
[10:25] <tonyf> it was very easy on the old KDE 3.X
[10:25] <ActionParsnip> then you can recover xorg
[10:26] <Kalidarn> i must ask why does kubuntu not have an init script for iptables
[10:26] <tonyf> Ok i've done that before and get to
[10:26] <Kalidarn> every other distro i've uded does
[10:26] <Kalidarn> *used
[10:26] <ThomasD> tonyf: http://tldp.org/LDP/gs/node5.html --> try reading some of these document to get an idea how to work with linux in a professional and efficient way ;-)
[10:26] <Kalidarn> suse/gentoo/archlinux
[10:26] <tonyf> the GUI in low res graphics
[10:26] <RandyCalifornia> Hi!
[10:26] <RandyCalifornia> quick question....
[10:26] <tonyf>  I just can't then select a higher resoloution
[10:26] <tonyf> or change my driver
[10:26] <RandyCalifornia> I'm using Kubuntu Feisty Fawn
[10:27] <RandyCalifornia> in a Ibook G3
[10:27] <RandyCalifornia> I was wondering if I could update my KDE to KDE 4....
[10:27] <ActionParsnip> tonyf: yes you need to tweak xorg.conf to load the driver and use a higher res
[10:27] <RandyCalifornia> is it possible?
[10:27] <ActionParsnip> !kde4
[10:27] <RandyCalifornia> or not?
[10:28] <RandyCalifornia> Apple Ibook compatible?
[10:28] <tonyf> ThomasD not a helpful coment :(
[10:28] <ActionParsnip> http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-To-Install-KDE-4-1-On-Ubuntu-8-04-91034.shtml
[10:29] <ActionParsnip> tonyf: if you read the i810 stuff i gave you it shows you how to get the driver loaded and select resolutions. Can I see your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:29] <RandyCalifornia> like updating to the new version of Kubuntu does not work for the Power Architecture
[10:30] <tonyf> Not at that PC at the moment
[10:30] <Kalidarn> i suppose i needed to read http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/445 ;P
[10:30] <tonyf> but from what i remember
[10:31] <ActionParsnip> RandyCalifornia: ive never done it, id rather save cash if you are gonna buy a macbook then whack linux on it you are wasting your money
[10:31] <RandyCalifornia> ???
[10:31] <tonyf> all it has in the video card section is something like selected driver
[10:31] <RandyCalifornia> I'm using an Ibook right now....
[10:31] <ActionParsnip> tonyf: can you paste it to pastebin so we can see
[10:31] <ActionParsnip> !paste | tonyf
[10:31] <tonyf> on the old KDE 3.5 it seemed far more populated
[10:31] <RandyCalifornia> I'm using Kubuntu and it works just fine
[10:32] <RandyCalifornia> is the new KDE more "heavy"?
[10:32] <ActionParsnip> RandyCalifornia: my point is that mac hardware is expensive for what it is and you will basically have a linux laptop, you'd get a faster system than the mac that is more supported if you buy a regular laptop
[10:32] <ActionParsnip> RandyCalifornia: ive read its lighter in ram
[10:34] <RandyCalifornia> Well, I love mac, not the os but the hardware....
[10:34] <RandyCalifornia> besides I got it for 70 bucks lol
[10:34] <ActionParsnip> oh then bargain
[10:34] <RandyCalifornia> it's not a clamshell. It's a 900 Mhz G3
[10:34] <ActionParsnip> mac gives very little bang for buck with the new ones
[10:35] <ActionParsnip> RandyCalifornia: the adobe flash plugin doesnt work on PPC cpus
[10:35] <tonyf> ActionParsnip I'll be on the same time tomorrow and  ill paste my xorg
[10:35] <ActionParsnip> tonyf: cool
[10:35] <RandyCalifornia> no, it doesn't
[10:35] <ActionParsnip> RandyCalifornia: you'll be running gnash or swfplayer
[10:35] <RandyCalifornia> what does it have to do with the conversation??
[10:35] <RandyCalifornia> wait... does KDE uses Flash??
[10:35] <tonyf> I just do not unterstand why kde 3.x let me choose driver resolution and all sorts of wizzy thaning
[10:36] <ActionParsnip> RandyCalifornia: no, its a web browser plugin
[10:36] <RandyCalifornia> huh?
[10:36] <tonyf> and KDe $ just seems to to lock me out
[10:36] <RandyCalifornia> I know that, but why did you bring that uup?
[10:36] <ActionParsnip> RandyCalifornia: flash is a browser plugin, nothing to do with kde
[10:36] <RandyCalifornia> up*
[10:36] <ActionParsnip> im just saying why its a poor idea to put linux on mac
[10:36] <tonyf> I can't not select driver or resolution through the GUI
[10:37] <ActionParsnip> tonyf: like i keep saying, you need to add lines to xorg.conf
[10:37] <ActionParsnip> tonyf: i gave you the link that tells you how to do it
[10:37] <tonyf> OK thank you will do
[10:37] <mike-solidus> hey, every once in a while for 3 restarts in a row, when kwin starts, my mouse hard locks and the background displays upside donwn and off to the side and up a little bit and no windows show up, or it gets stuck on the final stage of the startup screen or it gets turned into a black screen and bits of distorted background show up
[10:38] <RandyCalifornia> yeah, I knew the disadvantages of using linux on a mac..... When I need youtube I just change to Mac OS
[10:38] <RandyCalifornia> Still, I love it.
[10:38] <mike-solidus> when it does start up succsesfully it says kwin crashed
[10:38] <RandyCalifornia> Kubuntu is faster than Mac OS X
[10:39] <ActionParsnip> mike-solidus: install fluxbox, log off, change session type to fluxbox, does that do the same/
[10:39] <ActionParsnip> RandyCalifornia: depends on config
[10:39] <ActionParsnip> RandyCalifornia: but in your case yes :)
[10:39] <RandyCalifornia> :)
[10:40] <RandyCalifornia> like, I still don't know why it's so hard to watch a 640x480 avi video on a Mac.....
[10:42] <RandyCalifornia> one is the loneliest number that I ever knew......
[10:42] <RandyCalifornia> two could be as bad as one....
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> 2 is the lonliest number, its the lonliest number after number 1
[10:43] <RandyCalifornia> LOL
[10:44] <ActionParsnip> RandyCalifornia: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=pUlw3ACdN5s
[10:45] <RandyCalifornia> no flash on power pc :(
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> gah
[10:45] <RandyCalifornia> wait
[10:45] <RandyCalifornia> using my desktop
[10:48] <RandyCalifornia> LOL cool video! lol
[10:49] <bentob0x> I installed packages this morning (adept update), where can I find the name of the packages that were updated?
[10:54] <ActionParsnip> bentob0x: you could look in /var/apt/cache those are the debs you downloaded
[11:05] <bentob0x> ActionParsnip: thx.  Would you know how can I come back to a previous version of an upgraded package?
[11:06] <ActionParsnip> bentob0x: downgrading is strongly disuaded, it can break stuff
[11:07] <bentob0x> yes but I think I did mess one update as I did put some intrepid updates in hardy
[11:07] <bentob0x> for ... kde 4.1.3 :(
[11:07] <bentob0x> so I need to get that kdelibs5-data back to the previous version
[11:07] <ActionParsnip> oh boy
[11:07] <bentob0x> (basically, since I did the update Konqueror, Dolphin, Kopete etc crash)
[11:07] <bentob0x> yea
[11:07] <bentob0x> T_T
[11:08] <ActionParsnip> thats a really bad call
[11:08] <ActionParsnip> you could try upgrading to intrepid so everything is intrepid flavour
[11:08] <bentob0x> this is my work machine
[11:09] <ActionParsnip> even worse idea then
[11:09] <ActionParsnip> id upgrade, it may work. its all i can suggest really
[11:10] <ActionParsnip> you may be able to boot to live cd, chroot over and uninstall, then remove the intrepid repos and reinstall but i think you re onna have to reinstall dolphin as well as a whole host of other stuff
[11:10] <ActionParsnip> with hardy ones
[11:10] <ActionParsnip> (big mess)
[11:14] <bentob0x> upgrade might be the best I think
[11:14] <bentob0x> I'll run it in a few minutes, I'll see
[11:14] <bentob0x> there is no performance loss between upgrade and fresh install?
[11:14] <ActionParsnip> !upgrade
[11:15] <DexterF> screw kde4 and install 8.04 with the stable and working 3.5.10 till 4 matured to a stable state. </rant>
[11:15] <ActionParsnip> bentob0x: shouldnt be
[11:15] <bentob0x> I got used to kde4 now, the more I use it the more I like it DexterF
[11:16] <DexterF> the more often I see it I consider it hype-ish and beta
[11:16] <ActionParsnip> tis a bit beta
[11:16] <ActionParsnip> just get rid of kwin, its nasty
[11:17]  * dwidmann is using kde4 apps with fluxbox and scarceley ever sees a crash
[11:17] <DexterF> I scarcely see any improvement
[11:18] <DexterF> "look all new does the same sh!t as before but we made all new guis and stuff you won't rerecognize anything again!"
[11:18] <dwidmann> For now there do seem to be as many regressions of functionality as there are improvements ... dependends on the app.
[11:18] <DexterF> "plus cool new features! in 4.2! promise"
[11:18] <bentob0x> I like it
[11:18] <bentob0x> I concede that it's far from being totally stable yet
[11:19] <bentob0x> but I like it
[11:19] <bentob0x> and Dolphin is great (even tho far from Konqueror's file management capabilities)
[11:19] <DexterF> use what you like. by all means. I just needed to evnt :)
[11:19] <DexterF> *vent
[11:19] <bentob0x> :)
[11:23] <ActionParsnip> dolphin is fairly worthless to me, yakuake all the way baby
[11:23] <ActionParsnip> DexterF: i heard someplace it was supposed to be lighter in ram
[11:23] <ActionParsnip> DexterF: i just use what i apt-get upgrade to, im not that bothered
[11:24] <DexterF> hey, if I cared about RAM I wouldn't be using kubuntu ;)
[11:24] <dwidmann> ActionParsnip: countering that point though, if we still have to run old/other apps because they haven't been ported yet ... that kind of loses its benefit for now eh?
[11:24] <DexterF> 4gigs coem at.. what? 60 bucks?
[11:24] <ActionParsnip> dwidmann: what old apps?
[11:24] <ActionParsnip> DexterF: yeah for slow ass ram
[11:25] <dwidmann> ActionParsnip: for example, konversation?
[11:25] <dwidmann> ActionParsnip: amarok?
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> dwidmann: never used it in my life, amarok runs great on my kde 4.1 system
[11:25] <dwidmann> ActionParsnip: koffice?
[11:25] <DexterF> ActionParsnip: ddr2-800
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> DexterF: what latencys though?
[11:26] <DexterF> ActionParsnip: who gives a damn? latency is a hardcore gamer PR myth
[11:26] <ActionParsnip> well ive used slow ram and LL and ive seen a difference
[11:26] <DexterF> sure
[11:27] <dwidmann> latency doesn't make as much difference anymore ... could make a bit of difference years ago though, if you were overclocking (ie: bump up the clock, loosen the timings a bit)
[11:28] <DexterF> even ASUS stated when the CL2/3 discussion on ddr1-pc400 was on that they couldn't spot a difference even at benchmark level, not to speak of the experience working with the machine
[11:29] <ActionParsnip> im just telling you what ive seen DexterF, i dont care what anyone else says. Im not saying everyone should buy it as it doesnt suit everyone but ive noticed a speed increase with lower latency ram
[11:32] <bentob0x> is it better to upgrade to 8.10 right away from live packages or to use the alternate CD first and then do the updates once on 8.10?
[11:33] <dwidmann> bentob0x: won't make a lick of difference
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> i like that
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> lick of difference
[11:33] <dwidmann> hehe
[11:35] <bentob0x> appart from the fact that the upgrade will go a bit faster at the first place
[11:35] <bentob0x> it'll lick less time
[11:35] <kabotage> whats px as mean?
[11:36] <bentob0x> pixel
[11:36] <kabotage> umm sorry, its ps ax
[11:36] <bentob0x> but if you mean xp,  it's a smiley of a guy being cheeky
[11:36] <ActionParsnip> kabotage: ps shows processes
[11:36] <bentob0x> a = all
[11:37] <kabotage> ax means?
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> kabotage: ax is the BSD standard of showing all running processes for all users
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> ef is the standard way to do it
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> ps -ef
[11:37] <bentob0x> kabotage: type in a console: man ps
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> kabotage: you can pipe it into grep to see what you wanna see instead of EVERYTHING
[11:39] <T3rmInAt0r> hi guys, I have just installed phpmyadmin
[11:39] <T3rmInAt0r> how should I open it?
[11:39] <kabotage> bentob0x: thanks
[11:39] <bentob0x> http://localhost/phpmyadmin T3rmInAt0r
[11:40] <bentob0x> uw
[11:40] <kabotage> ActionParsnip: i dont know how to use grep
[11:40] <bentob0x> kabotage: man grep :)
[11:40] <bentob0x> (without the smiley)
[11:40] <bentob0x> man is your friend
[11:40] <bentob0x> he's the man
[11:40] <ActionParsnip> kabotage: ok i'll show you
[11:40] <T3rmInAt0r> bentob0x:  isnt supposed
[11:40] <kabotage> bentob0x: oh yea. lol. thanks xD
[11:40] <ActionParsnip> kabotage: you running firefox/
[11:40] <T3rmInAt0r> to be the GUI for mysql?
[11:40] <dwidmann> kabotage: pipe the output of something else into it (usually), and follow it with whatever word, phrase, or regular expression you want
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> kabotage: fire up firefox
[11:41] <bentob0x> how did you install phpmyadmin T3rmInAt0r?
[11:41] <kabotage> ActionParsnip: firefox is open
[11:41] <T3rmInAt0r> sudo apt-get intall phpmyadmin
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> kabotage: say you wanna kill firefox via pid
[11:41] <T3rmInAt0r> (from a tutorial)
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> kabotage: run ps -ef
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> kabotage: then try ps -ef | grep -i firefox
[11:42] <bentob0x> it is a PHP-built html interface to a MySQL DB yes T3rmInAt0r
[11:42] <ActionParsnip> kabotage: which is more useful
[11:42] <T3rmInAt0r> show it only shows the results with tha base I have connected to it
[11:42] <T3rmInAt0r> :s
[11:43] <ActionParsnip> kabotage: you can even grep, then grep again, using pipes (the | character)
[11:43] <T3rmInAt0r> bentob0x:  is there any way to use a GUI for mysql ?
[11:43] <ActionParsnip> kabotage: you can make massive commands to do lots of stuff for you
[11:43] <bentob0x> I think there is
[11:43] <T3rmInAt0r> (creating tables, insert etc)
[11:43] <bentob0x> let me have a quick look
[11:43] <T3rmInAt0r> :)
[11:43] <T3rmInAt0r> take your time
[11:43] <bentob0x> well, phpmyadmin does that really well
[11:43] <T3rmInAt0r> but how am I supposed to open my DB?
[11:44] <kabotage> ActionParsnip: ahh this is the pipe you talking bout >> |
[11:44] <bentob0x> select your DB on the left panel, in the little drop down menu
[11:44] <ActionParsnip> kabotage: yes
[11:45] <ActionParsnip> kabotage: see how it filtered out what you asked for
[11:45] <T3rmInAt0r> it says "The requested URL /phpmyadmin was not found on this server."
[11:46] <bentob0x> ah
[11:47] <kabotage> ActionParsnip: yea, this pipe thing is awesome. :)
[11:47] <bentob0x> type sudo apt-get install phpmyadmin
[11:47] <bentob0x> do you  have apache installed?
[11:47] <T3rmInAt0r> I did this few mins ago
[11:47] <bentob0x> and PHP?
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> kabotage: yu can also use grep on its own to search files for text
[11:47] <T3rmInAt0r> yes
[11:47] <bentob0x> what do you see when you type http://localhost/ ?
[11:47] <T3rmInAt0r> It works
[11:47] <bentob0x> nice
[11:47] <T3rmInAt0r> and I added also the testphp.php
[11:48] <T3rmInAt0r> with the details of apache
[11:48] <bentob0x> and http://localhost/phpmyadmin/ ?
[11:49] <T3rmInAt0r> The requested URL /phpmyadmin/ was not found on this server.
[11:49] <bentob0x> hmm
[11:49] <bentob0x> strange
[11:49] <T3rmInAt0r> should I start it?
[11:49] <T3rmInAt0r> (any command)
[11:49] <bentob0x> phpmyadmin?
[11:49] <bentob0x> not at all
[11:49] <bentob0x> it's plain PHP files
[11:49] <bentob0x> it's not an application or a service in itself
[11:50] <T3rmInAt0r> so I guess that I need
[11:50] <T3rmInAt0r> to find anothet gui
[11:50] <T3rmInAt0r> for mysql ....
[11:50] <T3rmInAt0r> :(
[11:50] <T3rmInAt0r> which one?
[11:50] <T3rmInAt0r> can you help me?
[11:50] <bentob0x> Type this in a console T3rmInAt0r sudo apt-get install apache2 libapache2-mod-php5 mysql-server php5 phpmyadmin
[11:50] <bentob0x> if you have something missing, it'll install it
[11:50] <bentob0x> if you already have it installed, it won't matter
[11:51] <T3rmInAt0r> I have already done it
[11:51] <T3rmInAt0r> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[11:51] <bentob0x> strange, it should work out of the box
[11:51] <T3rmInAt0r> and I have installed also
[11:51] <phate408> I've never had any issue with it o.O
[11:52] <T3rmInAt0r> mysql-gui-tools-5
[11:54] <T3rmInAt0r> so?
[11:54] <T3rmInAt0r> any salvation?
[11:54] <bentob0x> maybe :)
[11:54] <bentob0x> ok, do you have the following file:
[11:54] <bentob0x> => /etc/apache2/conf.d/phpmyadmin.conf
[11:55] <bentob0x> and if yes, do you have the line: "Alias /phpmyadmin /usr/share/phpmyadmin" in it?
[11:56] <bentob0x> that file should be about 42 lines in size
[11:56] <bentob0x> T3rmInAt0r
[11:57] <T3rmInAt0r> there isn't phpmyadmin.conf
[11:57] <T3rmInAt0r> :S
[11:57] <T3rmInAt0r> strange right?:S
[11:57] <Tetsu> Ciao, c'è qualche italiano qui?
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> !it | Tetsu
[11:58] <ali_> alguien de cordoba
[11:59] <bentob0x> ah
[11:59] <bentob0x> T3rmInAt0r:
[11:59] <bentob0x> sudo apt-get remove --purge phpmyadmin
[11:59] <bentob0x> then reinstall it with sudo apt-get install phpmyadmin
[12:00] <Tetsu> hi, I have a problem with amule adunanza!
[12:02] <T3rmInAt0r> I did it but still there isnt phpmyadmin.conf
[12:03] <bentob0x> hmm
[12:03] <bentob0x> that's not good at all
[12:04] <bentob0x> k I'll paste my file on pastebin, give me 2 mins
[12:04] <T3rmInAt0r> ok
[12:05] <bentob0x> wait
[12:05] <bentob0x> it's a symbolic link
[12:06] <bentob0x> do you have the file: /etc/phpmyadmin/apache.conf
[12:06] <bentob0x> T3rmInAt0r:
[12:07] <T3rmInAt0r> w8
[12:08] <T3rmInAt0r> yup
[12:08] <T3rmInAt0r> so?
[12:09] <bentob0x> so you need to create a symbolic link from /etc/apache2/conf.d/phpmyadmin.conf to /etc/phpmyadmin/apache.conf
[12:10] <T3rmInAt0r> ?
[12:10] <T3rmInAt0r> but I haven't phpmyadmin.conf
[12:10] <T3rmInAt0r> :S
[12:10] <bentob0x> no it is a symbolic link, it's not a file
[12:11] <bentob0x> http://www.tech-recipes.com/rx/172/create_a_symbolic_link_in_unix_solaris_linux/
[12:11] <T3rmInAt0r> yes I know how should I make it
[12:11] <T3rmInAt0r> soft link
[12:11] <T3rmInAt0r> but I haven't the 1st one
[12:13] <bentob0x> T3rmInAt0r: when I do "ls -al /etc/apache2/conf.d/phpmyadmin.conf" , I get: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 28 2008-09-22 00:40 /etc/apache2/conf.d/phpmyadmin.conf -> ../../phpmyadmin/apache.conf
[12:13] <bentob0x> see that little l as very first char at the start of the line?
[12:13] <bentob0x> it means it's a link, not a file
[12:14] <T3rmInAt0r> but I tell you
[12:14] <T3rmInAt0r> that I DONT have this one file
[12:14] <T3rmInAt0r> I type /etc/apache2/conf.d/phpm + <TAB>
[12:14] <T3rmInAt0r> and doesnt exist
[12:15] <T3rmInAt0r> in this directory there is only charset and security
[12:15] <T3rmInAt0r> (only)
[12:15] <bentob0x> and I'm telling you that you need to 'create' that file
[12:15] <bentob0x> via linking
[12:15] <T3rmInAt0r> aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah
[12:15] <bentob0x> :D
[12:15] <T3rmInAt0r> so the source ist th apache.conf
[12:16] <T3rmInAt0r> right?
[12:16] <bentob0x> yep
[12:16] <bentob0x> no
[12:16] <bentob0x> yes
[12:16] <bentob0x> => /etc/phpmyadmin/apache.conf
[12:16] <bentob0x> that's the source
[12:16] <bentob0x> have to be afk for 10 mins, going to get a sandwich, brb
[12:17] <bentob0x> try linking that file and let me know how it works
[12:17] <bentob0x> don't forget to make it root/root for user/group
[12:17] <T3rmInAt0r> so
[12:17] <bentob0x> well, if you sudo ln it it'll be root
[12:17] <T3rmInAt0r> w8
[12:17] <T3rmInAt0r> I don' t get you
[12:18] <T3rmInAt0r> I should do what?
[12:18] <T3rmInAt0r> just make
[12:18] <T3rmInAt0r> ln -s
[12:18] <T3rmInAt0r> then
[12:18] <T3rmInAt0r> ?
[12:18] <bentob0x> yep
[12:18] <bentob0x> go into the /etc/apache2/conf.d/ folder
[12:20] <bentob0x> and do sudo ln -s /etc/phpmyadmin/apache.conf ./phpmyadmin.conf
[12:20] <T3rmInAt0r> yes
[12:20] <bentob0x> in that folder
[12:20] <T3rmInAt0r> i dit it
[12:20] <bentob0x> does it work now?
[12:20] <T3rmInAt0r> nope
[12:20] <T3rmInAt0r> you to take your food
[12:20] <T3rmInAt0r> I come quickly :(
[12:20] <T3rmInAt0r> *and come quickly
[12:21] <bentob0x> do ls -l /etc/apache2/conf.d/phpmyadmin.conf and paste the result here
[12:21] <T3rmInAt0r> sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.backup
[12:21] <T3rmInAt0r> nope
[12:21] <T3rmInAt0r> sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.backup
[12:22] <T3rmInAt0r> nope
[12:22] <T3rmInAt0r> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root   27 2008-11-17 07:19 phpmyadmin.conf -> /etc/phpmyadmin/apache.conf
[12:22] <bentob0x> that looks about right
[12:22] <T3rmInAt0r> and it 's the same with apache.conf
[12:22] <T3rmInAt0r> Yes, I know it
[12:22] <T3rmInAt0r> but doesn't work
[12:23] <bentob0x> k go to pastebin.com and paste the content of your /etc/apache2/conf.d/phpmyadmin.conf file
[12:23] <T3rmInAt0r> ok
[12:24] <T3rmInAt0r> http://pastebin.com/m24f87a4a
[12:25] <noaXess1> after a upgrade from 8.04 kde4 remix to 8.10.. what about all the ???-kde4 packages? how can i remove them automatically?
[12:28] <BusError> hi guys. is there a way to downgrade a 8.10 to kde 3.5 ?
[12:29] <BusError> someone must have a deb source or something ?
[12:33] <bentob0x> T3rmInAt0r: that looks correct, type this: sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[12:33] <bentob0x> and try again
[12:37] <T3rmInAt0r> t3rminat0r@T3rmyMachine:/opt/mysql-gui-tools-5.0$ /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[12:37] <T3rmInAt0r>  * Restarting web server apache2apache2: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.1.1 for ServerName
[12:37] <T3rmInAt0r> apache2: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.1.1 for ServerName
[12:37] <T3rmInAt0r> (13)Permission denied: make_sock: could not bind to address 0.0.0.0:80
[12:37] <T3rmInAt0r> no listening sockets available, shutting down
[12:37] <T3rmInAt0r> Unable to open logs
[12:37] <T3rmInAt0r> (sorry for the flood)
[12:38] <Pici> T3rmInAt0r: You need to use sudo to do that.
[12:39] <T3rmInAt0r> yeah man
[12:39] <T3rmInAt0r> you are right...
[12:39] <jobe> is anyone able to play .WMAs on 64bit kubuntu with amarok? I'm having trouble
[12:40] <T3rmInAt0r> bentob0x:
[12:40] <T3rmInAt0r> ok I did it
[12:42] <stealth_> hi
[12:48] <kosmofield> How can I configure nano to use the same switches each time it starts? :/
[12:48] <Pici> kosmofield: Use a ~/.nanorc   man nanorc has more info.
[12:49] <T3rmInAt0r> bentob0x: out of ideas
[12:49] <kosmofield> Ok
[12:54] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[12:54] <bentob0x> still not working after your apache restart T3rmInAt0r?
[12:55] <T3rmInAt0r> unfortunatelly
[12:55] <bentob0x> running out of ideas myself
[12:55] <bentob0x> it's strange because it should work 'out of the box'
[12:56] <ActionParsnip> bentob0x: wassup?
[12:56] <bentob0x> Swarzie here tries to get his phpmyadmin working
[12:56] <bentob0x> it's installed and his .conf files seems to be ok
[12:57] <bentob0x> yet no http://localhost/phpmyadmin/
[12:57] <bentob0x> but localhost works
[12:57] <ActionParsnip> there are a tonne of folks in ##php maybe they are willing to lend a hand
[12:57] <bentob0x> true
[12:58] <bentob0x> T3rmInAt0r: try to ask on ##php
[13:00] <T3rmInAt0r> ok man
[13:00] <T3rmInAt0r> thanx
[13:00] <T3rmInAt0r> something else
[13:00] <T3rmInAt0r> in kubuntu
[13:00] <T3rmInAt0r> the double click
[13:00] <T3rmInAt0r> how may I change it?
[13:01] <T3rmInAt0r> in order to select a file with a single click
[13:02] <dwidmann>  I've got a question if anyone's feeling up to it. I just ran "make install" ... back when I did my ./configure I set the prefix to ~/linux/soft/ ... when when I'm running make install would it try to write files in /lib/.... (at all, ever)
[13:02] <dwidmann> http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/17180
[13:04] <ActionParsnip> T3rmInAt0r: go easy on enter key dude
[13:04] <dwidmann> T3rmInAt0r: try system settings - > mouse
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> T3rmInAt0r: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/disable-single-click-opening-of-files-in-kde/
[13:06] <T3rmInAt0r> thanx man you saved my life
[13:06] <T3rmInAt0r> :)
[13:06] <ActionParsnip> T3rmInAt0r: just dont
[13:06] <ActionParsnip> type
[13:06] <ActionParsnip> like
[13:06] <ActionParsnip> this
[13:06] <ActionParsnip> or
[13:06] <ActionParsnip> you look
[13:06] <ActionParsnip> like a spazz
[13:06] <Pici> !enter
[13:06] <ActionParsnip> just making an example
[13:06] <dwidmann> ActionParsnip: you do realize you just did that yourself right?
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> its like informing your mum of swearing siblings, you have to say it to give them the info
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> catch22
[13:08] <dwidmann> yup
[13:08] <BusError> hi guys. is there a way to downgrade a 8.10 to kde 3.5 ? I don't care about losing settings -- it has to be better than having to reinstall the whole workstation !
[13:08] <dwidmann> BusError: well .. no.
[13:08] <dwidmann> BusError: though compiling kde3 is possible (I'm working on it right now ... documenting all stumbling blocks in my path as I go)
[13:10] <BusError> it's terrible. I've been using linux since day one, and KDE since 1, I used to compile my own too in 2.x days. it's the first time ever I have to downgrade.
[13:11] <dwidmann> BusError: which troubles might you be having?
[13:11] <kosmofield> how can I configure bc to automatic start with ibase=12 and obase=12 ?
[13:12] <BusError> well I have an nvidia card, with two dvi screen. the speed is terrible, windows appear with garbage in them, even the panel has 'holes' in it. Even old trusted gkrellm has a hole in it's window.
[13:13] <dwidmann> BusError: can't really say i recommend using plasma/kwin if you've got multiple monitors ... I'm using fluxbox right now for the same reason
[13:13] <BusError> so is there a reasonably simple way to downgrade the window manager ?
[13:13] <ActionParsnip> fluxbox just rocks, no messing round with fluff, gets the job done. fast
[13:14]  * BusError search fluxbox in aotitude
[13:14] <BusError> aptitude
[13:14] <ActionParsnip> sudo apt-get install fluxbox
[13:14] <ActionParsnip> no need to search
[13:14] <ActionParsnip> its that easy
[13:15] <BusError> logout/login to activate it ? or is it a kde setting somewhere ?
[13:16] <dwidmann> BusError: just select it in kdm
[13:16] <BusError> ok. brb
[13:16] <ActionParsnip> change your session type in kdm
[13:20] <dwidmann> ActionParsnip: hmm, think it will take him a few minutes to adjust before he comes back?
[13:21] <ActionParsnip> should be quick, log off, change session, log on
[13:21]  * ActionParsnip bets he's lost
[13:21] <ncfi1013> what is bitcomet
[13:21] <ActionParsnip> !torrents | ncfi1013
[13:21] <dwidmann> ncfi1013: a bittorrent client
[13:21] <BusError> no Im not. Im in... its spartiate !
[13:21] <ActionParsnip> ncfi1013: theres others like ktorrent, transmission etc
[13:21] <BusError> but heck, it works
[13:21] <ActionParsnip> BusError: oh yes it does
[13:22] <BusError> it screwed up my single quote character tho
[13:22] <ActionParsnip> BusError: and yuo can run all your kde apps, just a lil faster
[13:22] <blaubaer> how to install a lpd printer with cups
[13:23] <dwidmann> BusError: fix it with xmodmap maybe?
[13:23] <BusError> so is there a reasonabky good tabbed terminal emulator that is not konsole, these days ?
[13:23] <ncfi1013> thanks all
[13:23] <dwidmann> blaubaer: best inteface for setting up printers I've seen is to go to "http://localhost:631"
[13:24] <ActionParsnip> BusError: yakuake does tabbing
[13:24] <dwidmann> ActionParsnip: but he said one that is not konsole :P
[13:24] <ActionParsnip> dwidmann: its a FE to konsole ;)
[13:24] <BusError> dwidmann, looking into that.. wonder why it decided my keyboard was international
[13:24] <ActionParsnip> BusError: if you use fluxbox you now have xterm
[13:25] <ncfi1013> how come when somebody talks to me the responses come in red letters
[13:25] <ActionParsnip> ncfi1013: its a feature of the client
[13:25] <BusError> well I like xterm, but I like tabs too nowadays :D
[13:25] <ActionParsnip> ncfi1013: in pidgin they go bold and yellow
[13:25] <ActionParsnip> BusError: tried yakuake?
[13:25] <ncfi1013> is there any way to change the color
[13:26] <ActionParsnip> ncfi1013: not sure, im sure you could
[13:26] <BusError> ActionParsnip, installing it now
[13:26] <dwidmann> BusError: you won't regret it ... yakuake is awesome
[13:27] <ncfi1013> what color are my questions to you
[13:27] <dwidmann> hmm, I wonder how long kdelibs will take to compile
[13:27] <BusError> OK I need to disable xinerama tho. its very very bizare otherwise :D
[13:28] <ActionParsnip> BusError: if you like it make a symlink in ~/.kde/Autostart
[13:28] <ActionParsnip> dwidmann: AGES!
[13:28] <dwidmann> ncfi1013: if you mention the persons nick, it'll highlight it for them
[13:28] <dwidmann> ActionParsnip: wouldn't be so sure, my cpu is pretty darned good by any standards
[13:29] <ActionParsnip> dwidmann: try it
[13:29] <dwidmann> ActionParsnip: oh, I am, and it's being timed too
[13:29] <ActionParsnip> i'd do compiles on my work servers if i could
[13:30] <codrut> http://code-ahead.com/vote.php
[13:30] <ActionParsnip> tasty dell boxes with 8 intel 3.2Ghz CPUs and 8Gb RAM
[13:30] <dwidmann> ActionParsnip: alias mymake="time make -j -s -l 3.5" --- seems to help a lot
[13:30] <sczgilae> hello
[13:30] <ActionParsnip> nice!
[13:31] <sczgilae> anyone can help me
[13:31] <ncfi1013> dwidman: how do i know which bitcomet client to download/install? how do i know what type of computer i have? whether it's amd64 or x86 or intel x86?
[13:32] <dwidmann> ncfi1013: pull up a terminal and type in "uname -m"
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> ncfi1013: x86_64 = 64bit
[13:33] <sczgilae> i have a text file in my desktop on KDE 4.  i give executable permissions but when i click on it not ejecute, only open kate to see the content but i dont want that.
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> ncfi1013: i686 = 32bit
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> sczgilae: chmod a+x <file>
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> sczgilae: and remove the file extension
[13:33] <ncfi1013> i have an i686
[13:34] <sczgilae> im going to try
[13:34] <ActionParsnip> sczgilae: make sure it has #!/bin/bash as its top line too (in the script)
[13:34] <sczgilae> ok
[13:34] <ActionParsnip> ncfi1013: then youo have 32bit
[13:35] <W8TAH> i am interested in using the kde3 package kworldclock with kde 4 -- how can i go about doing this?
[13:35] <dwidmann> Well, this is just lovely: http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/17190
[13:35] <ActionParsnip> W8TAH: you could compile it maybe
[13:35] <ActionParsnip> W8TAH: does sudo apt-get install kworldclock
[13:35] <ActionParsnip> not fly?
[13:36] <ncfi1013> there is no option for 32 bit
[13:36] <ActionParsnip> ncfi1013: option for what?
[13:36] <sczgilae> ActionParsnip:  thank u. the problem was "#!/bin/bash"
[13:36] <ActionParsnip> sczgilae: easy to remember, hash bang bin bash
[13:36] <ncfi1013> for bitcomet todownload or install
[13:37] <W8TAH> ActionParsnip: apt-get install cant find it
[13:37] <W8TAH> compiling is fine except im on 8.10 which now uses cmake if im not mistaken
[13:37] <ActionParsnip> ncfi1013: bitcomet appear to be a windows client
[13:37] <W8TAH> and i belive that kdeworldclock (from its website) wants automake etc -- and i DONT want to corrupt my installation
[13:37] <ActionParsnip> W8TAH: then get source and compile it
[13:38] <ncfi1013> i am using kubuntu 8.10
[13:38] <W8TAH> ActionParsnip: do they not use different toolchains?
[13:38] <ActionParsnip> ncfi1013: there are a tonne of torrent clients native to kubuntu
[13:38] <ncfi1013> like?
[13:38] <ActionParsnip> W8TAH: no idea, i only use packages
[13:38] <W8TAH> ActionParsnip: ok
[13:38] <ActionParsnip> ncfi1013: ktorrent, transmission
[13:39] <ActionParsnip> ncfi1013: apt-cache search torrent | less
[13:39] <ncfi1013> ktorrent i use already. what's transmission like
[13:39] <ActionParsnip> try it, you might like it
[13:39] <ActionParsnip> !transmission
[13:39] <ActionParsnip> !info transmission
[13:40] <ActionParsnip> !find torrent
[13:40] <Pici> !torrent
[13:40] <ActionParsnip> nice, cheers man
[13:41] <ncfi1013> how do you make a pipe? why do you put an exclamation point before the words info transmission?
[13:41] <ActionParsnip> ncfi1013: it makes ubottu tell us a factoid
[13:41] <Pici> !hi
[13:41] <ActionParsnip> ncfi1013: if s/he knows it
[13:41] <ActionParsnip> !coffee
[13:41] <eros> hi to all, (kde4.1.3) how can i prevent my touchpad scrollbar to switch desktops...?
[13:42] <dwidmann> ActionParsnip: you seem knowledgable, what do you make of this: http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/17190 ?
[13:42] <ActionParsnip> ncfi1013: you'll ave to look at your keyboard for making pipe chars
[13:44] <ActionParsnip> dwidmann: you could try commenting out fcntl.h in kdirwatch.cpp
[13:44] <ActionParsnip> dwidmann: you could try asking in #gentoo too
[13:46] <dwidmann> ActionParsnip: hmm, we'll know in a few minutes then (shouldn't take longer than that to re-hit that error point)
[13:47] <ncfi1013> !kde torrents
[13:47] <ncfi1013> !torrents kde
[13:48] <dwidmann> !torrents | ncfi1013
[13:49] <ncfi1013> which one of these are also for kde: Transmission (GTK and terminal-based), Deluge-Torrent, Freeloader, BitStormLite, BitTornado-GUI (GTK), QTorrent (Qt), Azureus (Java), TorrentFlux (web-based), bittornado, rTorrent, cTorrent, bittorrent, aria2 (terminal-based) - FAQ:
[13:51] <dwidmann> ActionParsnip: hmm, rats
[13:52] <ncfi1013> i am on kubuntu 8.10. will any of those work for me in 8.04?
[13:52] <dwidmann> ncfi1013: probably most if not all of those
[13:56] <dwidmann> ActionParsnip: looks like it says with relation to that file(kdirwatch.cpp), line 74 ... which is the include for linux/inotify.h
[13:57] <ubuntu__> how to add user in recovery mode??
[13:59] <dwidmann> ubuntu__: hehe, the adduser command
[13:59] <ncfi1013> who was it that told me that azureus is not called vuze? because when i look for it in adept azureus comes up as vuze.
[14:00] <ActionParsnip> ncfi1013: looks like sourdiesel in #ubuntu has your answer
[14:01] <ncfi1013> yeah im in ubuntu as well
[14:02] <ActionParsnip> ncfi1013: they use the same repos
[14:02] <ncfi1013> who does?
[14:02] <ActionParsnip> ncfi1013: ubuntu + kubuntu
[14:03] <ncfi1013> so you can see me when im talking in ubuntu? that's so cool
[14:03] <ActionParsnip> ncfi1013: no its 2 different rooms in irc
[14:03] <ncfi1013> what is emerge
[14:04] <ncfi1013> i just saw you say that God loves emerge in ubuntu
[14:04] <noaXess1> !nvidia
[14:05] <ActionParsnip> ncfi1013: thats because you are in both rooms
[14:08] <ncfi1013> is the gnome bittorent client ok for kde
[14:08] <ncfi1013> what about the python
[14:09] <ncfi1013> what is emerge
[14:13] <JackWinter_> hmm, something must have gotten out of synch.  in adept when specifying installation of the msttcorefonts the description shows "nvidia cg toolkit installer", how do i reset ?
[14:15] <tequil> there is anyone who know how to add packages on eclipse??? (thanks)
[14:22] <Guest21232> hello, my usb wifi card belkin F5D7050 does not work in ubuntu, can someone help me?
[14:22] <bobbob1016> I installed kubuntu-desktop alongside my ubuntu-desktop (gnome).  I'm in KDE now, but for some reason, when open a folder, it opens with nautilus, not dolphin (I think that's the kde manager).  How would I change this?  I tried rightclick properties, but I don't see an open with.
[14:26] <ncfi1013> bye guys thanks for all your help going to bed now
[14:27] <MarcoPau> Hello, I haven't been able to print since my last intrepid (very! :-)) upgrade. Cups' error_log says Unable to open MFP port device file!: Cannot allocate memory. Do you have any hint?
[14:37] <ahmos> hi can anybody tell me how to install win32 codecs
[14:38] <Dedi> serioulsy, these memory leaks needs to get fixed. there is already a fixed plasma with 4.1.69 THAKE IT IN GODDAMN
[14:38] <Dedi> its just getting more and more a joke the kubuntu thing
[14:39] <Dedi> twice a day a plasma restart, after some days a X restart... nice nice
[14:39] <Dedi> still running slow like hell after some hours again
[14:40] <BluesKaj> !Patience | Dedi
[14:41] <ahmos> !win32 codecs
[14:41] <Dedi> their are almost never available, and never got any help on this topic, searching for months
[14:41] <BluesKaj> could yo be more specific Dedi ...we realize complaining helps let off steam , but it doesn't help us help you
[14:41] <Dedi> dont care if im get kicked, just need to get out the frustration because nothing is going :>
[14:42] <Dedi> the problem is easy said: there are memory leaks everywhere in kde4
[14:42] <lokai> Dedi: I had the same feelings with KDE4. Its unusuable.
[14:42] <lokai> Its really a pos
[14:42] <BluesKaj> w32codecs | ahmos
[14:42] <BluesKaj> !w32codecs | ahmos
[14:43] <MarcoPau> Hello, I haven't been able to print since my last intrepid (very intrepid! :-) ) upgrade. Cups' error_log says Unable to open MFP port device file!: Cannot allocate memory. Do you have any hint?
[14:44] <Dedi> kde4 its so great... the first hour. i can still look over the many missing features and bugs, but not these memory leaks making it to me needing 5min to start an audio player
[14:44] <BluesKaj> hmm, I wasn't crazy about kde4 either at first either...it seems more stable now, however
[14:44] <BluesKaj> oops repeating myself in my old age
[14:45] <BusError> I switched to lxde after all. its like kde1, amazingly fast :D
[14:45] <BusError> dwidmann, tried lxde ?
[14:45] <BluesKaj> dedi , how about giving us a lowdownon your setup , then maybe we can help
[14:46] <Dedi> kde4 is basicly fast too, until the memory leaks :>
[14:46] <Dedi> BluesKaj: what means lowdownon?
[14:47] <BluesKaj> lowdown on ...a description of your install and pc
[14:48] <alewe> !de
[14:49] <Dedi> BluesKaj: came from hardy, intrepid beta, cleaned complete kde installation at a very late point of the beta, 64bit on a dualcore amd 4000+ with 2gig ram
[14:50] <Dedi> problems are: plasma memory leaks heavy (restart twice a day), X memory leaks, kde-notifier memory leaks (or 50m is just too much for a notifier..), kmail and ksmpt leaking memory (unusable)
[14:52] <BluesKaj> Dedi, have you installed / upgradededv to the "official release" or are you still running the beta version of kubuntu?
[14:53] <Dedi> beta gets automaticly to the offical release when updating regularely
[14:54] <Dedi> i could run a nightly build of kde which should have fixed the plasma memory leak already, but im sure i will run into new problems then
[14:54] <BluesKaj> not necessarily , unless you run adept upgrade wizard
[14:55] <BusError> kde4 is dreadfully slow on my setup. that and the garbaged windows... and all the other usability bugs
[14:55] <BluesKaj> nvidia , BusError ?
[14:55] <BusError> yeah.
[14:56] <BusError> but not only I suspect. like the gkrellm having a frame AND a hole at the bottom...
[14:57] <BluesKaj> !nvidia | BusError
[14:57] <ahmos> BluesKaj: i have a kaffeine problem,it was playing almost all video files now it can't play some files like wmv and asf!
[14:57] <BusError> and plasma taking a few % cpu doing nothing...
[14:57] <BluesKaj> !medibuntu | ahmos
[14:59] <BusError> hmm I already use the binary drivers.
[14:59] <BluesKaj> ahmos, you'll find the right libdvdscss app there, it will allow play of windows drm coded video
[14:59] <BluesKaj> err libdvdcss
[15:00] <ahmos> BluesKaj: thank you, going to try
[15:04] <ahmos> Blueskaj: sorry but what is the libdvdcss
[15:09] <Kalmairn> Good morning.
[15:10] <Kalmairn> I'm struggling; I cannot seem to assign a static IP Address to eth0.  I'll spare everything I've done, I just hope there really is an easy way to do this.
[15:11] <Kalmairn> I can't even find the right configuration file so I can edit by hand.
[15:11] <spawn57> Kalmarin, the file is in /etc/network/interfaces
[15:11] <Kalmairn> Right, I've added 4 lines to that.
[15:12] <Kalmairn> iface eth0 inet static
[15:12] <Kalmairn> Plus 3 lines to define the address, netmask and gateway.
[15:12] <spawn57> did you comment out auto eth0?
[15:12] <bentob0x> what's the story with kdm and kdm-kde4?
[15:13] <spawn57> you need to leave that in?
[15:13] <Kalmairn> Ah.  That might be it.  I don't have an eth0 line; just auto lo.
[15:13] <spawn57> give it a shot
[15:14] <Kalmairn> ...nope.
[15:15] <Kalmairn> Still comes up DHCP.
[15:15] <spawn57> what did you do after you edited the file?
[15:15] <Kalmairn> /etc/init.d/NetworkManager restart
[15:16] <jobe> get hot new stuff doesnt work in ibex 64 kde4. anyone know why or how to fix it?
[15:16] <spawn57> do /etc/init.d/networking restart
[15:16] <Kalmairn> k, jas.
[15:16] <jobe> id downloads it, lists it as being installed (the content, that is) but it doesnt show up as a selectable theme
[15:16] <jobe> ? :(
[15:17] <bentob0x> anybody knows what to use: kdm or kdm-kde4 as default window manager?
[15:17] <jobe> bentob0x: you mean kwin?
[15:19] <trappist> kdm is a display manager
[15:19] <spawn57> isnt' it a login manager?
[15:19] <bentob0x> no it is kdm
[15:19] <bentob0x> or kdm-kde4
[15:19] <trappist> it handles login, but it's a display manager
[15:19] <Pici> kwin is a Window manager, not kdm
[15:20] <jobe> exactly
[15:20] <bentob0x> display manager yes
[15:20] <bentob0x> sorry
[15:20] <tuxs> i very love kafeine and using it for any time(For recording!)!what time is for release kaffeine-kde4?
[15:20] <bentob0x> but I mean, I'm on kde 4.1.3, what should I use?
[15:20] <jobe> ?
[15:20] <bentob0x> kdm-kde4 obviously
[15:20] <spawn57> tuxs: wih i know :P
[15:20] <bentob0x> but it seems to be using kdm atm
[15:20] <spawn57> knew
[15:20] <trappist> bentob0x: *-kde4 whenever it's available
[15:20] <bentob0x> so how do I set it up as default display manager?
[15:21] <trappist> bentob0x: sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm should do it
[15:21] <tuxs> spawn57:heh!what time?
[15:21] <spawn57> wish I knew even
[15:22] <bentob0x> k going to try that, thx trappist
[15:22] <tuxs> spawn57:oh:)
[15:22] <bentob0x> (nice nick btw :)
[15:23] <trappist> thanks :)
[15:23] <trappist> ah, I see you're belgian
[15:23] <bentob0x> indeed :)
[15:24] <trappist> it's at the top of my list of places to visit
[15:24] <spawn57> ..belgium ... the place where french fries were invented
[15:24] <jobe> nice graves
[15:24] <trappist> it'll be a beer and cheese pilgrimage
[15:24] <bentob0x> oh-o: CTRL+ALT+F1 doesn't give me console access anymore
[15:24]  * spawn57 salutes you guys
[15:24] <trappist> bentob0x: what about ctrl-alt-f2
[15:24]  * bentob0x salutes spawn57
[15:24] <bentob0x> same
[15:24] <trappist> what video card?
[15:24] <bentob0x> none of the tty are up it seems like
[15:25] <bentob0x> nvidia
[15:25] <trappist> using nvidia driver, or nv?
[15:26] <bentob0x> the 177.82
[15:26] <bentob0x> I installed earlier on
[15:27] <bentob0x> installing the one via the restricted drivers
[15:27] <trappist> nothing breaks when you try, it just doesn't take you to the tty?
[15:27] <bentob0x> nothing brakes but I have a black screen
[15:28] <bentob0x> k rebooting
[15:28] <bentob0x> also, what's the best to use atm: kwin or compiz?
[15:28] <bentob0x> in terms of responsiveness
[15:28] <bentob0x> (dunno if that exists in english :)
[15:29] <shegman> i try to compile a little program in kdevelop but it breaks with the error message 'X: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting.' does anybody know why?
[15:34] <ralpho> shegman you might need linus to fix.
[15:35] <shegman> you're joking?
[15:35] <ralpho> half
[15:35] <shegman> great -.-
[15:35] <shegman> ok, thanks anyway
[15:35] <trappist> shegman: there's something in /etc/X11 that sets those restrictions - I forget exactly where
[15:36] <shegman> hmm...ok, i search for it.
[15:36] <trappist> shegman: Xwrapper.config
[15:36] <trappist> found it :)
[15:37] <ralpho> there is this too  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=255148
[15:37] <ralpho> dont know clue perhaps
[15:37] <trappist> shegman: per the man page for that file, you can change it to "anybody"
[15:37] <ralpho> xwraper.config
[15:38] <ralpho> every distro someone deals with this.
[15:40] <trappist> bentob0x: on compiz vs. kwin, it depends on your preference.  I use compiz because I like to have the cube.
[15:40] <bentob0x> my tray icons don't seem to refresh
[15:41] <trappist> bentob0x: do you mean they don't save?  what do you mean?
[15:41] <bentob0x> also, when I open the K menu, the first window has all those wierd colored lines across
[15:41] <jonasbet> hi
[15:41] <bentob0x> hi
[15:41] <jonasbet> i can mount a dvd
[15:41] <bentob0x> sure
[15:41] <shegman> ok. thank you alot. x restart
[15:41] <bentob0x> what do I mean about my tray icons?
[15:42] <trappist> bentob0x: yes
[15:42] <bentob0x> they are plain square after a while
[15:42] <trappist> oh, weird
[15:42] <bentob0x> they're clear and normal when I log in first, then they become squared
[15:42] <bentob0x> Konversation was like that until you used my name, then the Konversation icon blinked and became normal again
[15:43] <bentob0x> but the other ones are blue square now
[15:43] <trappist> bentob0x: very strange, I don't know what to tell you about that
[15:44] <bentob0x> I might do a screen capture and send it to the forums
[15:44] <bentob0x> still not using kdm-kde4
[15:44] <bentob0x> although I did a dpkg-reconfigure kdm
[15:44] <thomas__> hi
[15:45] <thomas__> mir gehz gut
[15:46] <thomas__> wie geht euch
[15:46] <trappist> !at
[15:46] <trappist> hrm, is that german?
[15:46] <bentob0x> !de
[15:46] <thomas__> ja
[15:52] <ahmos> i have a problem with kaffeine,it was working proberly but now when i try to open wmv or avi vedio files i get that message (codec package is already installed)
[15:52] <ahmos> any help plz
[15:52] <ahmos> !
[15:54] <shegman> erm...sorry. but it still doesn't work
[15:55] <BluesKaj> ahmos, you need to install w32codecs
[15:55] <shegman> http://paste.ubuntu.com/73381/ here's the full error output
[15:55] <BluesKaj> ahmos, sry , I forgot
[15:55] <ahmos> ]i had installed it
[15:56] <ahmos> but the same problem
[15:57] <ahmos> Blueskaj: so any ideas?!
[16:11] <tino_> buenas tardes sabeis de algunn programas para ver la televisiòn con el AverMedia
[16:11] <trappist> !es
[16:13] <ChrisBookwood_> Hi
[16:14] <ChrisBookwood_> When i make any changes to plasma - like creating a panel, adding widgets and stuff, it all goes back to default after a restart --- Shouldn't plasma be saving my configurations?
[16:14] <vbgunz> is there a way to upgrade to 8.10 *but* in no way destroy my KDE3 home directory?
[16:14] <trappist> ChrisBookwood_: I had that issue... turned out I wasn't logging out properly - I was rebooting from the console
[16:14] <ChrisBookwood_> seriously? Does that really matter?
[16:15] <trappist> vbgunz: your kde3 configs should get upgraded, but it'll likely have a few bugs.  you could just rename your .kde dir first
[16:15] <trappist> ChrisBookwood_: yeah the session manager wants to save your settings when you log out or reboot using the kde menu
[16:15] <trappist> ChrisBookwood_: or you could save it manually through the session manager, I think
[16:15] <ChrisBookwood_> trappist: is that way it takes so long for the computer to log out / log down?
[16:16] <ChrisBookwood_> why***
[16:16] <ChrisBookwood_> because, when i press the logout /close button ,it takes god knows how long before anything happens
[16:16] <ChrisBookwood_> anyways ... i'll try that
[16:16] <ChrisBookwood_> thanks
[16:17] <vbgunz> trappist: I guess what I mean is, currently I have KDE3 and 4 side-by-side because of the kubuntu-kde4-desktop ... I'd really like to upgrade and keep these seperated. is this possible?
[16:17] <trappist> ChrisBookwood_: when you do that, it starts a timer in case you did it by accident, but you can click it so it starts immediately
[16:18] <trappist> vbgunz: I'm pretty sure it is, but I couldn't say how.  right now they're both set up to use ~/.kde, but you could probably configure one to use ~/.kde4 for example.  not sure how, though.
[16:18] <anubis> is there a command to see all info about my computer / maybe which version macbook i have
[16:19] <trappist> anubis: there's definitely no command to see *all* the info about your computer.  but most of what you want to know can probably be gotten from the commandline.  for which version of macbook, I don't know, maybe cat /proc/cpuinfo
[16:21] <ChrisBookwood> trappist: it worked - thanks
[16:22] <ChrisBookwood> now ... Can't i move the default panel to the top?
[16:22] <ChrisBookwood> oh, i found out for myself:D
[16:26] <anubis> trappist: thx mate
[16:26] <anubis> trappist: just for your info it was: sudo dmidecode -s system-product-name
[16:27] <anubis> in the alsamixer how do i select the input or is that selected already ?
[16:27] <trappist> anubis: nice, I never heard of that one
[16:28] <lucax> hey there, im trying to let apps such as firefox to use oxigen theme... ive installed qt and changed in kde settings to let gtkk apps use kde themes, but they dont look ok
[16:28] <ChrisBookwood> Is it possible to make launcher (like awn, but without the task list) with plasma?
[16:28] <ChrisBookwood> or said in another way - is there any such plasmoid?
[16:28] <trappist> lucax: no, they don't :)  especially firefox.  that feature uses a lot of black magic, and it doesn't always work like you'd hope.
[16:29] <lucax> so theres no solution?
[16:30] <trappist> lucax: you'd probably have to fix gtk-qt-engine-kde4, but that wouldn't be trivial.  I just gave up on trying to theme my gtk apps with kde.
[16:31] <lucax> ok... thankss
[16:31] <trappist> lucax: if you just want consistency, try the keramik kde theme with gtk2-engines-geramik
[16:32] <trappist> works somewhat better
[16:32] <lucax> im using laOra theme, its ok... but wanted to have oxigen
[16:33] <rohan> hi.. suddenly my sound recording from mic has stopped working in linux
[16:33] <rohan> i am using the mike which is integrated on the laptop
[16:33] <rohan> it is an acer travelmate 3260, with intel hda audio realtel alc883 chip
[16:33] <rohan> a few days ago, sound was working perfectly in skype, flash apps etc
[16:33] <rohan> now it is not working at all
[16:33] <rohan> if i switch on the mic in "output" section of kmix, i can hear the ambient noise that the mic is generating
[16:33] <rohan> but i can't hear my own voice in any app, or any where else
[16:33] <rohan> i am using kubuntu hardy
[16:34] <lucax> rohan: i had that problem, i turned pulse audio off... it might help you...
[16:35] <chairman_> i have a lil trouble setting up firestarter
[16:35] <lucax> chairman_: doesnt start?
[16:35] <p3> ciao a tutti
[16:35] <Pici> !it | p3
[16:36] <lucax> p3: chau!
[16:36] <p3> scusa click destro dove, scusa ancora
[16:36] <rohan_> lucax: thanks a lot, but how do i turn pulseaudio off/
[16:36] <rohan_> pulseaudio is not installed by default on kubuntu
[16:37] <p3> ciao a tutti
[16:37] <lucax> rohan: try killall pulseaudio as root... and try the mic
[16:37] <rohan> lucax: rohan@ubuntu:~$ sudo killall pulseaudio
[16:37] <rohan> pulseaudio: no process killed
[16:38] <anubis> anyone know how i can select the input source?
[16:38] <anubis> please..
[16:38] <lucax> rohan: mmm then i dont know what else it could be... i had a problem with audio and had to kill pulse, all i know sorry
[16:39] <noaXess> how is the name of the tool for get keyboard events? like events from extra buttons? i can't disable my synaptics toucpad since i've upgraded to 8.10
[16:40] <PSiL0> noaxess: sudo rmmod psmouse
[16:40] <PSiL0> to disable
[16:41] <PSiL0> noaXess: to enable, type sudo modprobe psmouse
[16:41] <noaXess> but why can't i do that over the button?
[16:41] <PSiL0> don't know.. ask the kde developers... I want that functionality myself also... I just found a kludge to the problem
[16:42] <noaXess> PSiL0: ok.. thanks
[16:42] <ChrisBookwood> Is there any way to remove that thing (lock widgets, add widgets) in my upper right corner?
[16:43] <noaXess> ChrisBookwood: you mean on the dashboard.. i don't think so..
[16:44] <ChrisBookwood> not dashboard no - just corner thing
[16:44] <ChrisBookwood> it's enoying it opens underneath my panel when i restart.
[16:44] <PSiL0> noaxess: touchfreeze would be ideal, but it says that my synaptics is not turned on by my xorg.conf
[16:44] <noaXess> PSiL0: hm..
[16:45] <PSiL0> even when I try to edit xorg.conf to add in my synaptics device (a la the old days), touchfreeze throws the same message back to my face
[16:46] <noaXess> PSiL0: is that cause the synaptics touchpad is configured/loaded from HAL.. not from X11?
[16:46] <noaXess> cause after upgrade to 8.10 in my xorg.conf some devices are commented out.. also synaptic
[16:48] <noaXess> ..s
[16:48] <PSiL0> most likely
[16:49] <PSiL0> noaxess: most likely
[16:49] <noaXess> # commented out by update-manager, HAL is now used
[16:50] <PSiL0> noaxess: that could be it
[16:51] <PSiL0> noaxess: is the crash log located in /var/log/?
[16:51] <LordApocolypse> Hello
[16:52] <LordApocolypse> I tried adjusting my Display settings in Kubuntu with KDE v 4.1x and now the machine locked up. I had to power off to restart it now it just boots up into the terminal.
[16:54] <noaXess> PSiL0: what crash log?
[16:54] <LordApocolypse> ?
[16:54] <noaXess> what that mean # commented out by update-manager, HAL is now used... where can i configure HAL devices.. or read more about it?
[16:55] <ChrisBookwood> Is there any AWN like launcher (without task manager thingy) for KDE?
[16:56] <PSiL0> noaxess: I don't know, I'm trying to google the answer myself
[16:56] <PSiL0> chrisbookwood: cairo-dock, only as a launcher though
[16:57] <noaXess> PSiL0: what graficcard do you use in kde4?
[16:57] <PSiL0> noaxess:  I left my terminal on last evening, the screen turned off, I had to poweroff manually
[16:57] <PSiL0> noaxess: ati x2300
[16:57] <Kalmairn> spawn57: Long delayed, but /etc/init.d/networking restart did bring up the static address.
[16:57] <Kalmairn> spawn57: Thanks..!
[16:57] <LordApocolypse> I tried adjusting my Display settings in Kubuntu with KDE v 4.1x and now the machine locked up. I had to power off to restart it now it just boots up into the terminal.
[16:58] <noaXess> PSiL0: ok.. no performance problem in kde4? i had som little.. the main panel sometimes blinking.. have nvidia..
[16:58] <LordApocolypse> is there anyway to restart KDE or do I have to reinstall
[16:58] <PSiL0> noaxess: I saw the my irc session ended at 3am... I just want to know what happened around that time
[16:58] <LordApocolypse> I have an ATI card
[16:58] <noaXess> PSiL0: aha..
[16:58] <noaXess> hm.. syslog, messages in /var/log
[16:58] <PSiL0> noaxess: syslog only began on my reboot :-/
[16:59] <noaXess> hm....
[16:59] <PSiL0> the records only go back to 8am
[16:59] <DaSkreech> LordApocolypse: Logout?
[16:59] <LordApocolypse> pm pls
[16:59] <PSiL0> lord: aticonfig --initial
[17:00] <LordApocolypse> It says command not found
[17:00] <LordApocolypse> I'm in the terminal
[17:00] <PSiL0> noaxess: I have performance issues as well... sometimes I see the card not refreshing fast enough when opening menus or windows
[17:00] <LordApocolypse> screen says userame@username:$
[17:00] <noaXess> ok.. hm.. kde4 prob.. hm.. waiting for next release.
[17:00] <LordApocolypse> I didn't put my real user name in there
[17:00] <LordApocolypse> Mine is slow as heck also.
[17:01] <LordApocolypse> Even when playing a simple game like tuxracer (Before this happened)
[17:01] <PSiL0> hmm, did you install fglrx correctly?
[17:01] <spawn57> Kalmairn: np
[17:01]  * spawn57 goes back to bed
[17:01] <LordApocolypse> I'm not sure what that is
[17:01] <spawn57> cya guys
[17:02] <PSiL0> well, it depends whether your ati is support or not (old)
[17:02] <noaXess> so.. my son needs me :) see ya later
[17:02] <LordApocolypse> It's a 9200 Radeon
[17:02] <LordApocolypse> It's kinda old.
[17:03] <LordApocolypse> When I typed aticonfig--initial it said command not found
[17:03] <ChrisBookwood> PSiL0: bummer that cairo sucks, imo
[17:03] <PSiL0> well, you need to have fglrx installed in order for it to work..
[17:03] <PSiL0> umm..
[17:04] <PSiL0> chrisbookwood: Yeah, the applets are non-existant, so it only serves as a generic launcher for now..
[17:04] <LordApocolypse> Who are you talking to?
[17:04] <PSiL0> It is less crippled than AWN imho
[17:04] <PSiL0> LordApocolyse....hmmm about installing fglrx.. lemme see
[17:05] <LordApocolypse> Ok...
[17:05] <ChrisBookwood> PSiLO: well, i kinda only need it as a launcher, but it looks bad, if you ask me
[17:05] <LordApocolypse> This terminal won't even let me shutdown
[17:05] <LordApocolypse> I have the Kubuntu machine next to me. It's not on the internet ATM
[17:06] <LordApocolypse> It claims that the X server is running
[17:06] <andylockran> what app does KDE use for gpg management ?
[17:06] <PSiL0> LordApocolypse: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Intrepid_Installation_Guide
[17:06] <PSiL0> chrisbookwood: mine looks like the old yzdock
[17:07] <andylockran> K
[17:07] <LordApocolypse> this is the 3rd time I've installed Kubuntu.
[17:07] <DaSkreech> LordApocolypse: Press alt+Ctrl+F7
[17:08] <LordApocolypse> Now the screen blanked out and says get at the top left
[17:08] <DaSkreech> It says what?
[17:09] <LordApocolypse> get
[17:09] <kpkeerthi> Hi Guys... I'm very new to KDE. been using gnome for about 2 yrs. Just installed KDE4
[17:09] <kpkeerthi> what is the best media player for KDE4?
[17:09] <LordApocolypse> !Be Right Back!
[17:09] <kpkeerthi> there is no stable amarok for kde4 yet
[17:10] <PSiL0> !amarok
[17:12] <glade88> I dont seem to be able to use firefox after today's update. I get this http://pastebin.com/m3dc6213b
[17:13] <DaSkreech> LordApocolypse: Press alt+ctrl+bkspc
[17:14] <DaSkreech> kpkeerthi: Amarok for KDE3 still works. Kaffiene and Amarok should be ready to hit rounds in KDE 4.2 in two months (almost to the day)
[17:14] <kpkeerthi> DaSkreech: thanks
[17:15] <kpkeerthi> Any good disc burner apps for KDE4
[17:15] <kpkeerthi> ?
[17:15] <DaSkreech> kpkeerthi: the Default Media plaer for KDE4 in Kubuntu is intended not to be awesome
[17:15] <DaSkreech> kpkeerthi: k3b
[17:15] <glade88> DaSkreech: will k3b hit a kde4 version?
[17:15] <DaSkreech> It's in Beat 2 now
[17:15] <DaSkreech> Beta
[17:16] <glade88> DaSkreech: ty. Not in backports yet?
[17:16] <DaSkreech> Dunno that the would put any betas in backports
[17:17] <DaSkreech> kpkeerthi: It's purpose is to be very simple and no frills
[17:18] <kpkeerthi> r u referring to k3b?
[17:19] <kpkeerthi> anyone has experience with amarok 2 beta? Is it usable? I might try compiling from source if i get favorable feedbacks :)
[17:20] <DaSkreech> kpkeerthi: no Dragon Player the default media player in Kubuntu
[17:20] <DaSkreech> kpkeerthi: read www.kubuntu.org
[17:21] <holycow> how do you stop kopete from making the ping sound on every message outside of a global mute?
[17:21] <glade88> why does kde4 use guidance but not kpowersave? The later, imho, has much, much more functionality.
[17:22] <DaSkreech> glade88: Still being ported ?
[17:23] <PSiL0> glade88: there's powerdevil in kde-apps
[17:23] <PSiL0> although, I had problems compiling it
[17:23] <PSiL0> so, I'm back to using kpowersave in kde4
[17:24] <glade88> DaSkreech: idk.. probably. I have the version for kde3.5.10
[17:24] <DaSkreech> If it works...
[17:25] <DaSkreech> !info powerdevil
[17:25] <glade88> DaSkreech: it does..
[17:25] <DaSkreech> PSiL0: ^^^
[17:25]  * glade88 tries out powerdevil
[17:27]  * glade88 doesnt seem to be able to find the powerdevil executable
[17:27] <kpkeerthi> Compiling amarok2 from svn now...
[17:28] <PSiL0> I wonder if there is a package site for powerdevil
[17:28] <DaSkreech> kpkeerthi: :-) I guess that's safer
[17:29] <kpkeerthi> KDE sleek, shiny and sweet. i used gnome for 2.5 years. will stick with KDE now :)
[17:29]  * DaSkreech is constantly amused by people's reactions to KDE4
[17:30] <glade88> :D
[17:30] <kpkeerthi> I'd be glad if amarok and k3b are available for kde4. but no biggie. will wait.
[17:31] <DaSkreech> kpkeerthi: Both are not tied to core KDE so they can be available whenever they feel like
[17:31] <DaSkreech> Amarok and Koffice are pushing for release.
[17:31] <DaSkreech> k3b is a little bit more time tied
[17:32] <PSiL0> bah...make[2]: *** No rule to make target `/usr/local/share/dbus-1/interfaces/org.freedesktop.ScreenSaver.xml', needed by `daemon/screensaver_interface.cpp'.  Stop.
[17:32] <PSiL0> damn powerdevil
[17:32] <kpkeerthi> which one do you guys recommend for use in kde? koffice or openoffice
[17:33] <DaSkreech> Openoffice certainly if you are doing any kind of production work
[17:33] <glade88> I use oo3
[17:33] <kpkeerthi> ok thanks....
[17:33] <DaSkreech> koffice was fully rewritten as well as adding in new features. Within the same timeline that's a horrible recipe for stabilty
[17:33] <PSiL0> glade88: did you manage to compile powerdevil successfully?
[17:34] <glade88> PSiL0: I installed the deb package
[17:34] <PSiL0> ahhh, can you point me to it?
[17:34] <DaSkreech> I use Koffice though since I really want to help them push it further (they need devs badly) and OOo eats RAM for midwalk snacks
[17:34] <DaSkreech> !info powerdevil | PSiL0
[17:34] <glade88> PSiL0: already in repos I guess.. apt-get should fetch it..
[17:34] <kpkeerthi> I was very disappointed when VLC switched over to QT (I was using gnome then) . KDe certainly has some well polished apps
[17:35] <PSiL0> cool, thanks
[17:37] <glade88> in adept source, which file has the installation progress text?
[17:37] <JackWinter_> in adept the package name and description no longer lines up.  how do i fix ?
[17:39] <glade88> JackWinter_: not really clear. I have the correct description for my packages.
[17:39] <glade88> can you please elucidate?
[17:45] <PSiL0> !powerdevil
[17:45] <PSiL0> how does one bring up the powerdevil gui?
[17:45] <PSiL0> /etc/apt$ powerdevil
[17:45] <PSiL0> bash: powerdevil: command not found
[17:46] <dustin_> Mornin
[17:46] <JackWinter_> glade88: have a look at this: http://stashbox.org/296810/snapshot2.png
[17:47] <dustin_> So I have Ubuntu installed as my primary OS on a 160GB drive and then I have a 250GB drive for Data and recently partitioned it 60GB for XP. I can't seem to get GRUB to dual boot it properly
[17:48] <dustin_> title		Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition
[17:48] <dustin_> map (hd0) (hd1)
[17:48] <dustin_> map (hd1) (hd0)
[17:48] <dustin_> root (hd0,1)
[17:48] <dustin_> chainloader +1
[17:48] <dustin_> clearly this isn't working for me lol
[17:48] <dustin_> I'm missing something I think
[17:50] <dustin_> Windows is installed on /dev/sda2
[17:50] <glade88> JackWinter_: this isnt adept 3.0 is it?
[17:51] <PSiL0> hmm
[17:51] <PSiL0> powerdevil can't be started
[17:51] <PSiL0> either the service is turned off, or there is a problem in DBus
[17:51] <Copelia> !fr
[17:53] <JackWinter_> glade88: says adept manager 2.1.  it's kde 3.10 kubuntu hardy.  think i had something similar once before but some apt command fixed it
[17:54] <ChrisBookwood> Is it possible to install that application (from ubuntu) that makes it super easy to make an install pen of an iso?
[17:54] <glade88> JackWinter_: idk really if 2.1 is still under development. You can try filing a bug.
[17:54] <glade88> !info adept
[17:55] <glade88> that's the one under active devel ^^^
[17:56] <glade88> dustin_: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/307818-post10.html
[17:56] <JackWinter_> i think kde 3.10 is still supported too.  i'm pretty sure it's not a bug per se in adept, rather i need to "reset" my apt
[17:56] <glade88> dustin_: probably skip the 'hide' and 'unhide' lines
[17:56] <dustin_> Hmm ok
[17:57] <glade88> JackWinter_: try dpkg-reconfigure adept
[17:57] <glade88> JackWinter_: do as root
[17:58] <ChrisBookwood> Is there any way to easy make an install pen of an iso on KDE?
[17:59] <JackWinter_> glade88: thanks, that did it.
[17:59] <glade88> JackWinter_: np
[17:59] <PSiL0> glade88: is powerdevil working for you?
[18:01] <glade88> PSiL0: not really. I wasnt able to find its executable
[18:02] <PSiL0> it is in system settings->advance
[18:02] <PSiL0> it is in system settings->advance->system->power management
[18:02] <PSiL0> it won't turn on for me due to a DBus issue.. weird.
[18:03] <PSiL0> all of this while kpowersave is running fine.
[18:03] <DaSkreech> PSiL0: I forget wasnt' powerdevil a plasmoid?
[18:03] <PSiL0> I don't think so..
[18:03] <PSiL0> good question though
[18:03] <DaSkreech> ChrisBookwood: Sure
[18:04] <PSiL0> how can I get around this DBus error
[18:04] <PSiL0> ?
[18:04] <DaSkreech> What's the error?
[18:04] <glade88> PSiL0: right. To start it as daemon, I need the executable
[18:05] <PSiL0> "Powerdevil cannot be started. Either you have its service turned off, or there is a problem in DBus"
[18:05] <PSiL0> I turned on the system display management in system settings->general->display, and I still receive this error message when trying to access it
[18:06] <PSiL0> glade88:  ahh, gotcha
[18:06] <kpkeerthi> woot! amarok2 compiled successfully!
[18:10] <PSiL0> DaSkreech: "Powerdevil cannot be started. Either you have its service turned off, or there is a problem in DBus"
[18:10] <DaSkreech> PSiL0: I'll assume Dbus is running
[18:12] <PSiL0> daskreech: hmm, should I turn it off?
[18:12] <DaSkreech> I hope not :)
[18:12] <PSiL0> daskreech: that's what I figured..
[18:12] <alexej> Sysinfo for 'skipper': Linux 2.6.27-7-generic running , CPU: AMDAthlon64X2DualCore6400+ at 3214 MHz (6429 bogomips), HD: 113/474GB, RAM: 2471/3959MB, 137 proc's, 1.44h up
[18:13] <alexej> :)
[18:13] <DaSkreech> PSiL0: could bug people in #kde
[18:18] <thomas__> hi
[18:19] <thomas__> was
[18:19] <DaSkreech> !hi
[18:22] <Elone> anyone knows about wubi?
[18:23] <Elone> after i install in windows it reboot it go to something initramfs only ..? is that normal?
[18:24] <DaSkreech> Elone: no doesn't sound normal
[18:26] <J-Dii> Just upgraded to 8.10. I am missing some features in Dolphin: 1. "Send as Email attachment", 2. "Compress using Ark". Where did these go?
[18:28] <DaSkreech> J-Dii: Probably need to install Kmail. I think that Ark will be getting an update soon for the Compress using ark option
[18:29] <J-Dii> DaSkreech: Kmail is installed...
[18:29] <DaSkreech> Oh Umm dunno then :)
[18:30] <J-Dii> DaSkreech: But the send mail button should be there for an 8.10 install? maybe I need to reinstall Kmail?
[18:30] <DaSkreech> J-Dii: I never noticed :-(
[18:31] <J-Dii> i see
[18:40] <army23> hey what is the root passwd for vmware kubuntu
[18:40] <DaSkreech> army23: Wot?
[18:41] <army23> i installed vmware
[18:41] <army23> an i download
[18:42] <army23> kubuntu
[18:42] <army23> i can only login as user
[18:42] <army23> lol
[18:42] <army23> not root
[18:42] <army23> lol i need to get my .c programs working
[18:43] <army23> can you help me
[18:44] <Dekans_> army23: no root account activated on ubuntu
[18:44] <Dekans_> use sudo
[18:45] <Dekans_> with your user password
[18:45] <army23> ok
[18:45] <army23> sudo / user
[18:45] <army23> ok
[18:45] <Dekans_> or kdesudo for a graphical app
[18:45] <army23> ok
[18:45] <DaSkreech> army23: type sudo before any command you want to run as root
[18:45] <army23> ok
[18:45] <DaSkreech> army23: The password it asks for is your password
[18:46] <army23> ok thanks
[18:47] <army23> how do i get my .c working i get alot of errors
[18:47] <J-Dii> I noticed that with KDE4 and 3d effects, new windows are ugly (i.e. displaying old crappy data) for a bit. Is there a way to fix that?
[18:47] <DaSkreech> army23:sudo  apt-get install build-essential
[18:48] <DaSkreech> J-Dii: New drvers I would suspect. Xorg needs a lot of work
[18:48] <gioele> hi
[18:48] <DaSkreech> KDE needs loads of optimizations as well but tht's much more likely Drivers
[18:48] <DaSkreech> !hi
[18:48] <gioele> is there a way to make qt4/kde applications use a style similar to the rest of GTK+ applications?
[18:50] <DaSkreech> gioele: That's more a question for #gnome
[18:50] <J-Dii> I see. so everyone experiences that and there is no secret option that fixes this?
[18:50] <gioele> DaSkreech: well, no. I'm looking for a Qt style, not a GTK style
[18:50] <DaSkreech> Kde makes a qt-gtk-engine to help GTK apps look more native ina KDE environment
[18:50] <DaSkreech> gioele: You are looking for an engine
[18:51] <DaSkreech> J-Dii: There is secret options but it's on the driver level and diferent for each person
[18:51] <gioele> DaSkreech: actually I'm looking for the opposite. I'd like to see kde apps conform to what I choose in GTK, not the other way around
[18:52] <DaSkreech> gioele: Precisely. So you need to have a Engine that reads the Gtk options and transforms Qt/Klib apps to that
[18:52] <DaSkreech> That would be provided by the people providing the Gtk options
[18:58] <J-Dii> DaSkreech: can you give me a pointer to these options?
[19:00] <ghaith> hey, i recently installed kubuntu-desktop, i'm new to kde, i've been usign gnome for like 6 years now, so just some questions, how can i move widgets from one panel to another, how do i resize the systemtray so it doesn't take up all the free space, and how do i get the panels to remember their places, i have 2 top panels, one to the right and one to the left (mainly because i couldnt' resize the systemtray)
[19:00] <ghaith> thx
[19:01] <marco__> ciao
[19:01] <gmarzioz> ciao
[19:01] <marco__> da dove dgt?
[19:02] <gmarzioz> sicilia
[19:03] <Tm_T> !it | gmarzioz, marco__
[19:03] <marco__> io modena, sai come funziona la bazza di scaricare da irc?
[19:03] <kaviros> sound problem on kubuntu 8.10 (intel alc880) have you any idea?
[19:03] <marco__> un mio amico mi ha detto che ci sono server dove puoi scaricare
[19:03] <Tm_T> !sound | kaviros
[19:06] <marco__> ciao
[19:07] <noaXess> !akonadi
[19:07] <JontheEchidna> !info akonadi
[19:07] <Tm_T> haha
[19:07] <JontheEchidna> !info akanodi
[19:07] <noaXess> where can i get more information about akonadi? PIM storage system?
[19:07] <kaviros> ubottu i have tried everything
[19:07] <Tm_T> noaXess: techbase.kde.org
[19:08] <kaviros> nothing worked
[19:08] <noaXess> kaviros: have you a external amplifier in kmix?
[19:08] <kaviros> no
[19:08] <kaviros> is fresh setup
[19:08] <ThomasD> anyone need help?
[19:08] <noaXess> kaviros: hav you started alsamixer from konsole?
[19:09] <kaviros> it didnt worked on ubuntu and kubuntu 8.10
[19:09] <kaviros> on 8.04 worked fine
[19:09] <noaXess> kaviros: alt+f2 - konsole - enter
[19:09] <noaXess> was my problem to.. had to enable/disable external amplifier..
[19:10] <noaXess> or start kmix an go to settings / configure channels
[19:10] <kaviros> noaxess please tell me details
[19:10] <noaXess> kaviros: start kmix an go to settings / configure channels
[19:11] <bentob0x> can you create an up-to-date Kubuntu 8.10 CD (or DVD)?
[19:11] <bentob0x> with all the most recent packages
[19:12] <kaviros> it cant start
[19:12] <kaviros> kmix i mean
[19:13] <DaSkreech> J-Dii: Depends on what video card you have
[19:14] <DaSkreech> ghaith: Got answers?
[19:14] <kaviros> noaxess i did it
[19:14] <kaviros> what next
[19:14] <DaSkreech> bentob0x: Yes
[19:15] <ghaith> DaSkreech: nop not yet
[19:15] <DaSkreech> ghaith: which version of kubuntu are you on?
[19:16] <ghaith> 8.10
[19:16] <ghaith> i installed ubuntu actually, then installed kubuntu-desktop, i guess it should be the same
[19:16] <DaSkreech> Ok
[19:16] <noaXess> kaviros: try disable/enable all what you can..
[19:16] <DaSkreech> and you have a problem with the panels being too large?
[19:17] <ghaith> not the panel, the systemtray widget,
[19:18] <kaviros> noaxess there is nothing "eternal"
[19:18] <kaviros> external
[19:18] <ghaith> if i stretch the panel on top, the systray widget is centered, because it's taking up the whole free space, also to overcome that i put 2 panels on top, one right and one left, when i restart they dont' stay in place
[19:18] <kaviros> gia prospathise
[19:18] <DaSkreech> ghaith: Eh?
[19:18] <noaXess> hm.. pcm/front/.. send a screenshot
[19:18] <DaSkreech> ghaith: oh umm Yeah it takes up space as needed I think
[19:19] <DaSkreech> You just want a panel with the Systemtray?
[19:19] <ghaith> no, i'm kind of used to gnome, a top panel with application launchers, systray and clock keeping the bottom panel for the tasks
[19:20] <ghaith> though i want the systemtray aligned right, while the launchers are on the left side, and a seperator in between, when i try to put the systemtray right, it takes up the whole free space and gets centered
[19:20] <VanessaE> I've just finished reinstalling my system (with hardy, after a hard disk error) and am trying to configure my printer.
[19:21] <VanessaE> when I plug it in, KDE recognizes it, pops up a little "thought bubble" that says it's configuring, then says it is ready for use.
[19:21] <yiannis> noaxess kaviros=yiannis
[19:21] <VanessaE> I printed one test page, and now no matter what I do, I can't print anything else, even if I delete and lte KDE re-create the printer.
[19:21] <VanessaE> s/lte/let/
[19:21] <DaSkreech> ghaith: Yeah I'm not sure. I've never tried to add a spacer to a panel
[19:22]  * DaSkreech finishes the koffee
[19:23] <VanessaE> help?
[19:24] <genii> me puts more coffee on for DaSkreech and others...
[19:24] <DaSkreech> VanessaE: Can you see it inthe Systemsettings
[19:24] <VanessaE> I use kde control center, but yes, it shows up
[19:25] <VanessaE> I can configure it, fiddle with it all I like, but it won't print.
[19:26] <bentob0x> DaSkreech: any links for me about how to make that up-to-date kubuntu CD?
[19:26] <DaSkreech> !cd
[19:27] <DaSkreech> !remaster
[19:27] <yiannis> noaxess nothing send i thing
[19:27] <DaSkreech> bentob0x: ^^^
[19:27] <DaSkreech> genii: Do you know of a space plasmoid ?
[19:28] <VanessaE> DaSkreech, I had it working before the reinstall, and in point of fact, I think I had problems printing the last time I had to set it up, too.
[19:28] <genii> DaSkreech: I haven't tinkered enough yet with my kde4 install to know, sorry
[19:28] <bentob0x> nice one, thx DaSkreech
[19:29] <DaSkreech> VanessaE: So you set it up had problems solved hem had it working reinstalled and are now back to having problems ?
[19:29] <yiannis> please problem with sound in 8.10
[19:29] <VanessaE> DaSkreech, correct, and this time I can't figure out what to do to make it work again
[19:29] <VanessaE> I've been all over the web already trying to figure this out
[19:29] <DaSkreech> !sound
[19:29] <DaSkreech> !print
[19:30]  * VanessaE looks...
[19:35] <portal> does this work on anybodys linux? http://www.radiorock.fi/player/
[19:36] <Tm_T> !fi | portal
[19:36] <VanessaE> oh ffs.
[19:37] <VanessaE> crw-rw---- 1 root lp 180, 0 2008-11-17 12:49 /dev/usb/lp0
[19:37] <VanessaE> and I'm not in the lp group.
[19:39] <VanessaE> nope, that's not the issue..
[19:39] <VanessaE> I can't even lpr a text file as root.
[19:40] <VanessaE> I should point out that if I try to add the printer manually, "Local printer" is not one of the types that I can select from
[19:40] <VanessaE> nor does "USB #1" or similar appear in the cups web interface.
[19:40] <VanessaE> yet the computer clearly sees it.
[19:43] <VanessaE> "Unable to open device "hal:///org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/usb_device_4b8_805_H60150312180229220_if1_printer_noserial": Permission denied"
[19:45] <VanessaE> this HAL crap is getting old.
[19:45] <VanessaE> I want it purged from my system.  How do I go about it?
[19:46] <kyle__> hey powertool08
[19:46] <kyle__> what are you doing?
[19:48] <darwin> hi
[19:48] <darwin> my kubuntu desktop is no longer working
[19:49] <darwin> Error message was:  "org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply" : " "Message did not receive a reply (timeout by message bus)" "
[19:49] <darwin> anyone familiar with the bug? is it related to latest update?
[19:49] <Authority> VanessaE: sounds more like an issue with udev/FS permissions than HAL
[19:50] <VanessaE> sigh
[19:50] <darwin> anyone using kubuntu 8.10? is your system still running fine?
[19:50] <kyle__> mine is
[19:50] <White_Pelican> I refuse to use intrepid
[19:51] <VanessaE> Authority, I can't even print as root.
[19:51] <darwin> i think i updated my system last weekend, and now it is no longer working.
[19:51] <White_Pelican> ss darwin
[19:51] <Authority> VanessaE: can you pastebin a CUPS debug log?
[19:52] <VanessaE> Authority, sure, but it's HUGE
[19:53] <Authority> VanessaE: I'm not scared :-)
[19:54] <DaSkreech> !paste
[19:55] <VanessaE> I know how to use a pastebin, but thanks.
[19:55] <VanessaE> working on it now.
[19:57] <noaXess> !kpilot
[19:57] <DaSkreech> White_Pelican: There is Jackolope :-)
[19:57] <VanessaE> waiting for the file to upload...
[19:57] <noaXess> !info kpilot
[19:57] <DaSkreech> !info kpilot hardy
[19:57] <noaXess> DaSkreech: yeah that i know.. but i want i for kde4
[19:58] <noaXess> or is there antother way to sync a palm device? treo 680?
[19:58] <rconan> hello, i'm trying to set the KDE colour scheme for the KDE apps I have running under gnome but the colours section isn't there in systemsettings. Does anyone know how I do this?
[19:58] <DaSkreech> noaXess: They blogged about it recently
[19:58] <noaXess> where?
[20:00] <DaSkreech> http://movingparts.net/
[20:01] <VanessaE> Authority, the log is too big to paste.
[20:02] <Authority> VanessaE: Can you isolate just a single attempt to print?
[20:02] <VanessaE> even the last job's worth of lines is too much.
[20:02] <VanessaE> (about 38000 lines)
[20:03] <Authority> what the heck?  I'm an op in ##cups and I've never seen one that long for a single job
[20:03] <noaXess> DaSkreech: ok.. see. talk now von vanRijn :)
[20:03] <VanessaE> wait, I think it's still pasting..
[20:03] <DaSkreech> noaXess: #kpilot ?
[20:04] <VanessaE> I have the log level set to debug
[20:04] <noaXess> DaSkreech: jep
[20:04] <VanessaE> I'll back it down a step.
[20:04] <Authority> VanessaE: no no no, debug is necessary
[20:04] <VanessaE> ok
[20:04] <VanessaE> I'll leave it be then :)
[20:05] <VanessaE> here, catch.
[20:05] <bluelightning> hi all, simple problem: konversation opens quanta instead of konqueror when clicking links since the intrepid upgrade
[20:05] <rconan> hello, I'm trying to find out how to install the KCM which will let me change the color scheme for KDE apps in SystemSettings
[20:05] <Authority> VanessaE: may not work, I'm NAT'd
[20:09] <VanessaE> my computer just locked up solid.
[20:09] <VanessaE> this is getting REALLY OLD.
[20:10] <noaXess> where can i get nightly build of kubuntu?
[20:10] <Tm_T> noaXess: Jaunty?
[20:10] <army23> how can i compile .c files under vmware
[20:11] <noaXess> Tm_T: for intrepid..
[20:11] <army23> kubuntu
[20:11] <Tm_T> noaXess: there's no dailies for stable release
[20:11] <VanessaE> army23, same as on real hardware, with gcc and friends.
[20:11] <army23> alot of my files of errors
[20:11] <army23> ok thanks vanessae
[20:12] <noaXess> Tm_T: ok where to get the dailies for jaunty?
[20:13] <Tm_T> !jaunty | noaXess
[20:13] <Tm_T> see?
[20:13] <noaXess> Tm_T: ok thanks
[20:13] <rconan> hello, I'm trying to find out how to install the colors KCM
[20:13] <noaXess> Tm_T: other quest.. are ther apackages for kde4.2 and inttrepid?
[20:14] <Tm_T> !neon | noaXess
[20:14] <noaXess> Tm_T: oh :)
[20:14] <Tm_T> noaXess: also see kubuntu.org
[20:15] <Coggz> needing some help with wacom
[20:15] <Coggz> got an unusual problem
[20:15] <un> Tm_T: you know that's going to make people mad, spreading unstableness around in a support channel...
[20:15] <noaXess> Tm_T: are they in this repo? deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-members-kde4/ubuntu intrepid main
[20:16] <Tm_T> un: who people?
[20:16] <un> noaXess: yeah, that's the one 'kde-nightly'
[20:16] <Tm_T> noaXess: I guess yes
[20:16] <noaXess> ok..
[20:16] <un> Tm_T: im just sayin, if a newb came across that, first thing they would do is get the unstable version, for new-ness
[20:17] <Tm_T> un: I know, that's why I don't give hints for that direction to total newbies, usually
[20:17] <Tm_T> un: but noaXess has his pass to borkage and bugs (:
[20:17] <Coggz> cursor jups to the corner of the screen randomly, drawing ugly lines in gimp/xournal...
[20:18] <Tm_T> noaXess: and just to remind you, using those means you're on your own basicly (:
[20:18] <noaXess> Tm_T: no prob.. i know what can happend :)
[20:18] <Tm_T> un: but thanks for your concern
[20:19] <un> Tm_T: oh, cool, just concern for the newblets in here...
[20:19] <Tm_T> un: it's always needed here
[20:19] <un> Coggz: is there a #wacom channel anywhere? or a wiki?
[20:19] <Tm_T> ok kids, this daddy'o goes to sleep, have fun and remember to play nice, kids
[20:19] <Coggz> no channel, wiki turned up blank so far
[20:20] <un> Coggz: hmm, i've never had a wacom go off on me before... you've google'd your hardware name?
[20:20] <Coggz> it is a serial device, it is a tablet pc you see un
[20:23] <andycarr059> why does ubuntu run so slow?
[20:23] <noaXess> Tm_T: i'm trying to search a way to sync my palm treo 680.. and kpilot is only for kde4.2 available
[20:27] <minchina> my thinkpad has started going to black screen when I  minimize firefox
[20:27] <minchina> it doesn't really shut down
[20:27] <minchina> has anyone else had this problem?
[20:29] <un> minchina: no, that sounds like a graphics card problem to me? are you using proprietary or free drivers?
[20:29] <Fade> minchina: I haven't seen that problem, but I do have strange video corruption using the ubuntu nvidia packages on 8.10 with kde4.1
[20:30] <un> minchina: i think there are some cutting edge nvidia drivers out recently, may want to look into those, or you may need to downgrade (hope not)... dunno what else it could be...
[20:30] <minchina> I'm using ati graphics
[20:31] <minchina> fglrx
[20:31] <minchina> I suspect it is driver related also, but I was wondering if anyone had run into this
[20:31] <Fade> well, the nvidia situation is a mess.
[20:31] <Fade> i dunno about ati.
[20:31] <minchina> oh well
[20:31] <minchina> thanks
[20:32] <noaXess> ok.. where is laptop support gone? in 8.04 my laptop was easy to put in sleep mode.. now.. same problem then in 7,04.. i can't reactivate it.. no screen ;(
[20:35] <sanyk> Hi there
[20:35] <Archdevil> question: after installing kubuntu 8.10 I saw an icon in the bottom panel that gave me the option to install drivers for my broadcom wireless card. When I start my system now I do not get that option. How can I automagically install my wireless?
[20:35] <portal> is there a movie edit software for ubuntu?
[20:35] <noaXess> Archdevil: search for drivers in kmenu
[20:36] <Archdevil> thanks!
[20:36] <trappist> portal: apt-cache search video editing
[20:36] <noaXess> portal: for kde 4.x kdenlive
[20:36] <portal> what?
[20:36] <noaXess> www.kdenlive.org
[20:37] <noaXess> Archdevil: got it?
[20:37] <Archdevil> yes, but when I press activate nothing happens
[20:38] <noaXess> Archdevil: you have the option to activate it.. and it is activated, a green symbol?
[20:38] <Archdevil> it says "this driver is not activated" next to the activate button
[20:39] <noaXess> Archdevil: press activate button..
[20:39] <Elone> arrr help~ i installed nvidia driver~ now the usb drive won't boot on my other pc .... ( wubi on usb ) anyone can help?
[20:39] <noaXess> Archdevil: only one to choose?
[20:39] <Archdevil> there is only one to choose, but it is gray
[20:40] <noaXess> hm.. Archdevil was there the question about your password?
[20:40] <Archdevil> yes
[20:42] <noaXess> Archdevil: close it then alt+f2 - kdesudo jockey-kde
[20:43] <noaXess> try to activate then
[20:44] <Archdevil> again nothing happens....
[20:45] <noaXess> hm..
[20:45] <noaXess> Archdevil: open a konsoel and run jockey-kde -l
[20:45] <noaXess> that should also list the drivers..
[20:45] <noaXess> look at jockey-kde --help for more options
[20:47] <Archdevil> it tells me that the driver is disables and not in use
[20:47] <benbloom> I know it's off topic. but does someone know what to call the little logo that is displayed in most browsers next to the address bar?
[20:47] <Archdevil> *disabled
[20:47] <kyle__> does anyone know if there is like.. a workout conversation?
[20:48] <benbloom> nevermind-- it's called a favicon
[20:49] <noaXess> Archdevil: post the list of jockey-kde -l on paste.ubuntu.com, link it here
[20:49] <Archdevil> let me switch to the kubuntu laptop first
[20:52] <benbloom> anyone gotten the new 64bit Flash plugin working? <http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashplayer10/> I've got the Flash10 Plugin working with npwrapper and I don't want to switch if the new release is less than adequate
[20:53] <Archdevil> http://paste.ubuntu.com/73482/
[20:53] <luite> has there been a kernel update for intrepid in the last few days? I have upgraded some packages, but don't remember anything big. problem is that my Xorg crashes often on my computer, which it never did before. it tries to return to low graphics mode, but locks up, then I can only switch to the text terminals
[20:58] <Archdevil> I pasted the jockey-kde output. Can you help me?
[21:01] <Archdevil> noaXess: did you look at my paste?
[21:01] <Machtin> heyho.. what tool could i use to download .dlc-file content?
[21:01] <Machtin> like from rapidshare e.g
[21:02] <fabrisco>  im looking for the terminal command to install the restricvted drivers
[21:02] <fabrisco> VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G72 [GeForce 7300 LE] (rev a1)
[21:02] <Archdevil> fabrisco: jockey-kde
[21:03] <fabrisco> what is  jockey-kde
[21:03] <noaXess> Archdevil: i would trying following: sudo jockey-kde -e kmod:wl --confirm
[21:03] <noaXess> Archdevil: but be aware..
[21:04]  * aware lurks
[21:04] <noaXess> !jockey-kde
[21:04] <noaXess> !info jockey-kde
[21:05] <fabrisco> command to mount an ntfs drive?
[21:06] <irene_> hola
[21:06] <fabrisco> anyone can help me?
[21:06] <maduser> you should be able to mount through dolphin
[21:06] <Archdevil> noaXess: http://paste.ubuntu.com/73485/
[21:06] <irene_> soy realmente nueva por acá, es la primera vez que uso un SO Linux, tengo kubuntu y tengo algunos problemas con mi tarjeta de sonido
[21:07] <ubuntu> Buenas Tardes
[21:07] <noaXess> Archdevil: puh...
[21:08] <JontheEchidna> !es | irene_
[21:08] <noaXess> no more hints..
[21:08] <Archdevil> I am updating my system now
[21:08] <Archdevil> let me see how it works afterwards
[21:08] <irene_> ubottu: gracias
[21:08] <Cesarius> Buenas
[21:08] <Cesarius> Ayuda con kubuntu
[21:10] <noaXess> irene_: ubottu is just a bot :) a AI bot
[21:14] <benbloom> findclear
[21:16] <gommans> noaXess: problem solved. After the reboot the driver is installed and active.............................
[21:16] <noaXess> Archdevil: nice job :)
[21:16] <Archdevil> I should have known.........................
[21:20] <MrInternet> oi, old konversation can't open terminals
[21:20] <MrInternet> !konversation
[21:20] <MrInternet> This is because you disapoint me.
[21:24] <luite> where should I look for more information when Xorg crashes to console? Xorg.0.log and dmesg don't have any information
[21:25] <genii> luite: Perhaps also /var/log/messages
[21:25] <Machtin> how to install sun java on 8.10?
[21:27] <Jampiter> Hmmm
[21:27]  * Jampiter has a question
[21:28] <Jampiter> Can you upgrade Hardy to Intrepid from the ShipIt CD?
[21:28] <Jampiter> Rather than downloading 1500 MB of upgrade?
[21:29] <genii> Not from the Shipit, you need an Alternate
[21:29] <luite> genii: ah good idea, but I can't find anything useful in there either
[21:30] <luite> does dpkg keep some log of when each package was intalled?
[21:30] <genii> luite: The way to use the alternate as a repo is on the upgrade page
[21:30] <Jampiter> genii - Alternate?
[21:31] <genii> Jampiter: Yes. The alternate cd does not have live version of (k)ubuntu to run from cd, only a text installer
[21:31] <genii> luite: Nvm, misdirect
[21:31] <Jampiter> So how do I upgrade using that?
[21:31] <genii> !upgrade
[21:32] <genii> Jampiter: See the link above, it has a section dealing with how to use the alternate cd as a repo
[21:32] <Jampiter> Is that free?
[21:32] <genii> Yes
[21:33] <Jampiter> :D I shall order one then
[21:33] <genii> Jampiter: I'm not sure if they send then through ShipIt. It may be a download-only deal
[21:33] <Jampiter> Ah
[21:34] <Jampiter> Are you sure it can't be done through the regular CD?
[21:34] <DaSkreech> Jampiter: Yes
[21:34] <DaSkreech> UNless you mean the DVD
[21:35] <Jampiter> And can I get that through ShipIt?
[21:36] <Jampiter> I'm guessing not?
[21:36] <DaSkreech> Jampiter: Probably I've never tried for the DVD
[21:36]  * Jampiter looks
[21:49] <dwidmann> Anybody here have any idea why I might get this when trying to compile kdelibs(3.5.9)? http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/17285
[21:51] <cw5411> i have a quick question. Dealing with home maping and a samab server
[21:52] <cw5411> I have a NAS I use, and on windows boxes
[21:52] <jhutchins_wk> dwidmann: Looks like bad sourcxce coed to me.
[21:52] <walbert> Hey folks... how would I go about making my mouse move faster?  The Keyboard/Mouse setting applet inside of System Settings only allows me to toy with the acceleration, not the speed... my monitor is 1920x1200, but only 15", and with the default settings it takes me almost 10 seconds to work the mouse from one side of my monitor to the other
[21:52] <Archdevil> well boys and girls................bedtime for me. Night all!
[21:52] <cw5411> oops sorry for that. But on windows boxes i map my documents to the nas.
[21:52] <dwidmann> jhutchins_wk: that's fun, 'specially seeing as not onlyl did I not write it ... but it was a "release" :(
[21:53] <cw5411> i want to do the same with Kubuntu. is that possible?
[21:53] <jhutchins_wk> dwidmann: I'd suggest looking for errata on that release then.
[21:53] <jhutchins_wk> dwidmann: Where did you get the source?
[21:54] <jhutchins_wk> walbert: You may be able to configure the DPI in your xorg.conf.
[21:55] <walbert> cw5411:  you could certainly add a line to /etc/mtab  mounting your NAS's documents share to /home/<account>/Documents
[21:56] <dwidmann> jhutchins_wk: ftp://ftp.gtlib.cc.gatech.edu/pub/kde/stable/3.5.9/src/
[21:56] <cw5411> walbert: thank you, is there a walk through anywhere?
[21:56] <walbert> jhutchins_wk: I was thinking that, but my xorg.conf has no HID-ish configuration anywhere
[21:57]  * t3rminat0r_ bbbbbbbbb
[21:57] <cw5411> walbert: I have vimedinto my mtab.
[21:58] <cw5411> walbert: Any further direction? Thank you for your help.
[21:58] <walbert> cw5411:  let me see what google has to say...
[21:59] <Fade> nice. adobe released a 64bit flash player for linux
[21:59] <Fade> finally.
[21:59] <Fade> http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10.html
[22:02] <dwidmann> jhutchins_wk: this seems related ... https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/glibc/+bug/268311
[22:02] <Kovert> when i use 3d effects nvidia i think driver mighyt be 96 I loose many of the fonts in my applications any one see this?
[22:02] <walbert> cw5411:  try adding the following line to your /etc/fstab file (edit it for your own network/nas settings, remove quotes) ->  "//machine/sharename /home/cw5411/Documents cifs username=cw5411,password=*****,gid=cw5411 0 0"
[22:03] <yiannis> sound problem with 8.10
[22:04] <cw5411> walbert: I'll give it a try
[22:06] <yiannis> any idea? no sound sinse i updated to kubuntu 8.10
[22:08] <cw5411> walbert:thank you!
[22:08] <cw5411> walbert: now i am going to test it.
[22:09] <luite> is there an ubuntu package for the new nvidia 177.82 driver?
[22:11] <yiannis> any idea? no sound sinse i updated to kubuntu 8.10
[22:12] <trappist> !envy > luite
[22:12] <trappist> err,
[22:12] <trappist> !envy | luite
[22:12] <luite> :)
[22:12] <luite> thanks
[22:12] <trappist> np
[22:13] <dwidmann> jhutchins_wk: I think I've gotten around it ... feels dirty, but it seems to be working
[22:13] <JohnFlux> how do I install the nvidia drivers please?
[22:13] <JohnFlux> from the command line
[22:14] <JohnFlux> I can't load X at the moment :-)
[22:15] <JohnFlux> ubottu: nvidia
[22:15] <dwidmann> JohnFlux: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-177
[22:15] <dwidmann> JohnFlux: then sudo nvidia-xconfig
[22:15] <JohnFlux> dwidmann: i did that
[22:15] <JohnFlux> ah
[22:17] <Elone> hi
[22:17] <Dr_willis> hi
[22:17] <Dr_willis> !hi
[22:17] <dwidmann> !hi | Dr_willis
[22:18] <Dr_willis> !ohmy | dwidmann
[22:18] <Dr_willis> :)
[22:18] <Elone> questions: i just get wubi kubuntu install to usb HD~ is it ok to install both nvidia and ati display driver to it so it can run on different pc ?
[22:19] <jhutchins_wk> dwidmann: If you're working with straight kde source you can get help from #kde and their support forums.  (If you're working with packaged source or bins don't even try there.)
[22:19] <jhutchins_wk> Elone: Either install the least common denominator or both, but you might have trouble switching.
[22:20] <jhutchins_wk> Elone: You will probably not be able to use the full 3D Nvidia driver.
[22:20] <dwidmann> jhutchins_wk: my current solution that seems to be working (though it is dirty) is to comment out the defs for flock and flock64 in the kernel header's fnctl.h
[22:20] <jhutchins_wk> Elone: I don't know though, try it and find out.
[22:20] <jhutchins_wk> dwidmann: Hm.  I'd comment them out in the kde code first.
[22:20] <dwidmann> jhutchins_wk: tried that first, of course
[22:20] <dwidmann> jhutchins_wk: but that didn't work
[22:20] <motosir> hello
[22:22] <dwidmann> and it would seem I've reached hurdle number 4
[22:22] <alx54> hey @all does anybody know a channel for non-kubuntu-chat? (sorry i am new to irc)  ;D
[22:22] <JohnFlux> dwidmann: nvidia-xconfig calls pkg-config  which i don't have installed
[22:22] <trappist> alx54: everything but #kubuntu, I'd guess - or do you mean something more specific, like social chat?
[22:22] <motosir_> hey alx54, I was about to as the same question :)
[22:22] <JohnFlux> dwidmann: a bug in the dependancies?
[22:23] <dwidmann> JohnFlux: you're welcome to install it ... could be a bug in them.
[22:23] <dwidmann> Seems kdelibs's configure doesn't check for a lot of things that it wants when you go to compile it :\
[22:23] <motosir_> is there a good channel to discuss how to get involved in open source projects?
[22:23] <bobbob1016> How can I get my time shown as am/pm not 17:00 or whatever?  And how can I get it so apps from this desktop only show up on panel?
[22:24] <bobbob1016> Just got the this desktop only thing
[22:24] <alx54> trappist its a question about english vocab (i am german) guess everybody whos mother tongue is english could answer that, just dont want to annoy ppl ^^
[22:25] <trappist> alx54: there's a #kubuntu-de, if that answers your question
[22:25] <dwidmann> motosir_: maybe someone in #kubuntu-devel could point you in the right direction :)
[22:26] <motosir_> thanks, Dwidmann.
[22:27] <alx54> thanks trappist, i asked motosir_ who was just about to ask the same question (for general chatrooms) ;d
[22:27] <dwidmann> And here people told me that kdelibs would take agest to compile ... that didn't take long at all.
[22:31] <Kovert>  any one run into the issue witht eh nvidia drivers (think it is build96) where in 3d mode you loose application fonts?
[22:31] <Dr_willis> Kovert,  ive herad of others with the issue..but not seen it myself
[22:31] <Fade> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-177/+bug/289329
[22:31] <Kovert> thanks Dr_willis
[22:31] <Fade> Kovert: there seems to be a lot of nvidia bugs.
[22:32] <dwidmann> Fade: But of course
[22:32] <Fade> also: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-kde4-meta/+bug/254468
[22:32] <Fade> which is the one I'm currently experiencing
[22:32] <Dr_willis> Yep - Nvidia has seem to Stumbled  in their latest offerings..
[22:32] <Kovert> I thought ATI was evil!
[22:32] <Fade> this is an old card
[22:32] <Fade> 7600GT
[22:32] <Kovert> Fade: so is mine
[22:33] <Fade> with the 177.80 drivers shipped with 8.10
[22:33] <Dr_willis> ATI is also having some issues lately
[22:33] <ekontsevoy> When you install Kubuntu 8.10 - the default fonts look pretty bad (blurry and low-constrast). What kind of settings are you guys running?
[22:33] <Kovert> I have a different issue you launch k3b with 3d on and all the menu test is gone
[22:33] <Fade> i think there are some problems with the compositing features in kwin.
[22:33] <Kovert> text
[22:33] <mercurio> holas
[22:33] <mercurio> hi
[22:33] <mercurio> I need help
[22:34] <dwidmann> Dr_willis: ati is always having issues, last I checked
[22:34] <mercurio> Joder
[22:34] <Fade> Kovert: have you tried a different colour scheme?
[22:34] <mercurio> Ningun español?
[22:34] <ekontsevoy> Hm... I don't think that BCI fonts are enabled on Kubuntu. Can someone confirm that?
[22:34] <Kovert> Fade: yes
[22:34] <ekontsevoy> fontconfig-config says that "Native" tuning method is selected but it doesn't look native to mee: glyphs are too jerky
[22:35] <Fade> i have no advice for you. the kubuntu devs are pretty quiet on the forums about this.
[22:35] <Kovert> ekontsevoy: Doesn't Native tuning use a pentonic scale :-)
[22:36] <Dr_willis> I hate when someone Jerks my glyphs
[22:36] <Dr_willis> :)
[22:36] <ekontsevoy> Kovert: not sure what you mean... It used to be the case that for every Ubuntu release there used to be "Turner patches" - freetype deb packages with enabled BCI... Then they started enabling it by default, and now (at least in Kubuntu) they seem to be going backwards: I can't get native hinting with subpixel smoothing... Fonts look kinda zig-zag
[22:39] <Kovert> ekontsevoy: sorry
[22:40] <OxDeadC0de> Weirdness.. I'm trying to compile ogrenewt (Library to combine newton physics sdk and ogre3d sdk) in 8.10 and gcc gives me the error: /usr/include/Newton.h:89: error: ‘size_t’ has not been declared ..
[22:41] <Elone> !help
[22:43] <Apocolypse> Anyone mind walking me through changing my screen resolution in Kubuntu (KDE 4.x)
[22:44] <Apocolypse> It seems to be limited to 800x600
[22:44] <Kovert> No CD/DVD writer found. saw what?
[22:44] <Kovert> how do I fox this
[22:45] <Kovert> I do have one
[22:45] <Thetetsu> hi
[22:45] <Apocolypse> ps I do have an Nvidia ti4600 AGP card installed.
[22:45] <Apocolypse> I took out the troublesome ATI card
[22:45] <Kovert> so it looks lie my cd drive got lost?
[22:47] <kyle__> apocolypse
[22:47] <Apocolypse> Yes?
[22:47] <OxDeadC0de> Apocolypse start the restricted hardware manager, somewhere in kde menu/system or kde menu/settings, install the driver for nvidia
[22:47] <kyle__> nvidi 4200 is bad graphics card
[22:47] <Apocolypse> It's a 4600
[22:47] <Apocolypse> The ATI card was worse.
[22:47] <terran4000> Does anyone know of the solution to the Nvidia driver problem where PowerMizer never speeds up the card?
[22:47] <kyle__> i think umm.the best is..Nvidia 8200 is best out now
[22:48] <Apocolypse> This machine is only an AMD Athlon 1.8Ghz with 1 GB of ram.
[22:48] <kyle__> oh
[22:48] <Apocolypse> It's not worth spending any money on.  LOL
[22:48] <Apocolypse> I don't even think you can put 2 GB of ram in it.
[22:48] <Apocolypse> At least when I bought it, that was the maximum listed
[22:49] <kyle__> mines AMD(i don't kno what kind) 3.4Ghz with like 2-3 gigs of ram
[22:49] <Kovert> ok how do i spec my dvd drive as in /dev/?
[22:49] <Kovert> k3b has lost it
[22:49] <Apocolypse> This sucker is old.
[22:49] <Apocolypse> At least 6 years
[22:50] <terran4000> aha, different question: Is there a nvidia group 'round here somewhere?
[22:50] <kyle__> did you buy it ubunutu(or kubuntu) or was it windows?
[22:50] <Apocolypse> I bought it with windows 98
[22:50] <Apocolypse> lol
[22:50] <kyle__> wow
[22:50] <Apocolypse> Which is no longer on it.
[22:50] <kyle__> i bought mine with windows xp
[22:50] <Apocolypse> It's just a "learning" machine
[22:50] <Apocolypse> This machine came out right around the time XP was coming out.
[22:50] <kyle__> i wonder how to make my own Operating System..
[22:51] <Apocolypse> lol
[22:51] <kyle__> is there a way to edit ubuntu(or kubuntu) .iso files to make your own opperating system?
[22:52] <Apocolypse> I dunno
[22:52] <Kovert> Apocolypse: you have under system hardware manager icon
[22:52] <colton> If I originally installed Ubuntu, and now I would like to uninstall gnome and replace it will kde, how could I do this?
[22:53] <Kovert> sudo apt-get install kde?
[22:53] <kyle__> no.
[22:53] <kyle__> it would be
[22:53] <colton> Ok, how could I uninstall gnome, is what I really mean to ask
[22:53] <kyle__> sudo apt-get reinstall kde
[22:53] <Kovert> adept look for gnome and instakll it
[22:53] <kyle__> sudo-aptitude uninstall gnome
[22:54] <lovre> sorry for ot, but where could i get some answers on image processing (normalization, levels....)?
[22:54] <bdgraue> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[22:54] <Kovert> i agree with kyle__
[22:54] <lovre> can someone invite me to #photoshop?
[22:55] <Kovert> no but we coudl #gimp
[22:55] <kyle__> does anyone know how to install microsoft framework 3.0 or whatever its called in ubuntu and paint.net?
[22:56] <bdgraue> colton: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[22:56] <colton> There are a bunch of applications which are associated with the gnome interface, is there an easy way to get rid of them?
[22:57] <kyle__> yes
[22:57] <Kovert> kyle__: wine?
[22:58] <kyle__> yes
[22:58] <uga> lovre: I doubt anyone using photoshop cares much about the inners of image processing
[22:58] <gekkoo> my xorg.conf is empty..1) why does the xserver work anyway 2) how can i create a new xorg.conf?
[22:58] <colton> thx
[22:58] <uga> lovre: if it's about using them, there's tons of tutorials online
[22:58] <Apocolypse> Kovert I don't see that menu
[22:59] <uga> lovre: and if you use photoshop, maybe you are asking in the wrong channel ;)
[22:59] <Apocolypse> It won't even let me run nvidia-xconfig from root.
[22:59] <kyle__> aoici
[22:59] <uga> gekkoo: these days xorg can autoconfigure settings
[22:59] <kyle__> apoco
[23:00] <kyle__> apoco
[23:00] <kyle__> lypse
[23:00] <uga> gekkoo: for edting xorg.conf, if you use nvidia, run nvidia-xconfig as root, and it'll autoconfigure
[23:00] <Kovert> Apocolypse: ok use adapt to find it and install it
[23:01] <LjL> kyle__, how about trying to make sense
[23:01] <kyle__> about what LjL?
[23:01] <lovre> uga: its not about photoshop and im not using it. Im coding an algorithm in matlab, and it involves image processing.... i just wanted to ask what filter i could use to normalize my input.. or whatever.. dont know exactly what i want... its a bit complex...
[23:02] <lovre> uga: but i know its wrong channel, i just dont know where to ask
[23:02] <LjL> kyle__: well, not spamming the channel with random words would be a start.
[23:02] <kyle__> what are you talking about?
[23:02] <kyle__> im not spamming
[23:03] <LjL> kyle__: i'm talking about this: [23:59:42] <kyle__> aoici [23:59:45] <kyle__> apoco [00:00:01] <kyle__> apoco [00:00:05] <kyle__> lypse
[23:03] <kyle__> i was messing up typing smart one...
[23:03] <kyle__> i was trying to get apocolypse
[23:03] <kyle__> i have NEVER seen you here before...
[23:04] <LjL> and i've never seen *you* here before.
[23:04] <LostBat> anyone know if i can set the KDE to double-click style?
[23:04] <kyle__> you have never talked since i've been here..
[23:04] <LjL> now behave.
[23:04] <kyle__> who do you think you are...
[23:04] <LjL> LostBat: KDE 3 you can, KDE 4 no idea
[23:04] <kyle__> my mom?
[23:04] <kyle__> wow
[23:05] <kyle__> didn't know you were operator..
[23:05] <LjL> kyle__: i said "enough".
[23:06] <kyle__> can i get into #gimp please?
[23:06] <LjL> kyle__: you don't need to ask us
[23:07] <toby_> If I click on "Display" in "System Settings" my screen goes irreversibly black. Does anyone know how I can enable power saving on my monitor?
[23:07] <kyle__> i was just making sure..
[23:07] <toby_>  It's been on solidly since Intrepid was released!!
[23:07] <Apocolypse> Mind did the same thing Toby until I took out the ATI graphics card.
[23:07] <kyle__> who is ChanServ?
[23:07] <Apocolypse> I stuck an Nvidia card in it.
[23:07] <toby_> NVidia here
[23:07] <Kovert> <both here
[23:07] <uga> lovre: normalisation shouldn't be a complex task. it involves resizing the dynamic range by scaling pixel intensity iirc
[23:08] <uga> lovre: not sure if ther will be any channels dedicated to that, you could possibly ask gimp developers
[23:08] <uga> but Matlab includes some nice image processing samples too, and possibly there's normalisation ones in it
[23:09] <uga> photoshop guys only know using the tools ;)
[23:09] <toby_> Is there any CLI or textfile way to enable the monitor energy star settings maybe?
[23:09] <lovre> uga: look at this image, i need to make the bright spot up there not make a difference, i need to make it not so contrasted.... you understand
[23:09] <uga> ie, they dont' care how the usm algo works. They just know it sharpens and enhances contrast of images
[23:10] <uga> lovre: which image?
[23:10] <toby_> ARe they perhaps stored in ~/.kde/share/config/kwinrc ? Could someone look?
[23:10] <lovre> uga: http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/6742/reg003qy4.png
[23:10] <lovre> uga: sorry :d
[23:12] <uga> lovre: uhm, if you do anything like levels adjust (histogram adjust), the image will have the shadows removed, but even then, for the computer there will be contrast
[23:12] <uga> lovre: you can use levels tool, until the brightest part is clipped and turns completely white
[23:12] <uga> that, in histogram, means moving the pixels left
[23:12] <uga> ie, substracting a constant value
[23:12] <lovre> uga: can i pm you a sec?
[23:13] <uga> yes, but not now, I'm about to leave. I have to get up in 5h
[23:13] <lovre> uga: ok.. thanks for your time
[23:14] <uga> lovre: sorry.  I suggest you buy a nice image processing book. There's tons out there
[23:14] <Neremor> hello!
[23:14] <Neremor> i've a question
[23:14] <uga> lovre: and btw, if you want automatic character recognition or something in that line, it's much harder =)
[23:14] <uga> last time I made neural networks for it, it was fun
[23:14] <uga> anyway, gotta go, cya
[23:14] <Neremor> i'm searching for a editor, that provides much features and is simillar to notepad++ for windows
[23:15] <toby_> Someone whose monitor turns off automatically with the screensaver, I would really benefit from your typing $ cat ~/.kde/share/config/kwinrc and putting the contents into pastebin!
[23:18] <Apocolypse> Could someone tell me how to shutdown and restart the Xserver in Kubuntu (KDE 4)
[23:19] <toby_> Apocolypse: ctrl-alt-backspace
[23:19] <Apocolypse> Ok, thanks
[23:19] <Apocolypse> Does that restart it or shut it down?
[23:19] <toby_> It dumps you at the graphical login, kdm
[23:19] <Apocolypse> Ok
[23:19] <Apocolypse> Thanks
[23:19] <toby_> np
[23:20] <Apocolypse> I have to run nvidia-xconfig and it wants me to restart the xserver when I'm done.  That's why I needed to know
[23:20] <xp-killer> kmess not showing what music im listen to no more,how to fix this?
[23:25] <xp-killer> kmess not showing what music im listen to no more,how to fix this?
[23:27] <LostBat> anyone know if i can set the KDE 4 to double-click style?
[23:31] <Dragnslcr> LostBat- you mean the option in Mouse settings
[23:32] <LostBat> Dragnslcr oh i found ~ sorry for n00b question new to linux and kde
[23:33] <BlackSheep> hello?
[23:34] <BlackSheep> can I get some help for Kubuntu here?
[23:35] <camille__> hello I would like to mount /home directory on remote server only at the user login ... what is the best way ?
[23:35] <maduser> why would you want to mount the home dir?
[23:36] <maduser> if it is in the SFH then it is mounted on boot
[23:36] <maduser> you could write a shell script apon login to do so
[23:37] <camille__> for example the /home/user1 dir
[23:38] <camille__> a shell script ok ... but it will executed in user ID no ?
[23:40] <maduser> yeah the way you could do this is buy adding it to sudoers
[23:40] <maduser> it would go but it would be in your id
[23:40] <BlackSheep> hey, Does anybody know how to fix the black/pink screen crash when booting off of live cd? Seems like a graphics issue
[23:41] <camille__> maduser and how do I call the shellscript ?
[23:41] <maduser> whats the file where you put things to boot again?
[23:42] <maduser> I forgot the nme
[23:42] <maduser> name
[23:42] <maduser> int
[23:42] <maduser> add it to int
[23:43] <maduser> so apoon boot the comand in suderos in int will run in your user you loged in with
[23:43] <anubis_> Is Gnome more stable than KDE 4?
[23:54] <BlackSheep> Does anybody know how to fix the pink/black screen issue?
[23:55] <PSiL0> how can I have the advance window settings override a setting from desktop effects?
[23:55] <PSiL0>  I tried to set one application to have its windows not be translucent upon inactivation, while desktop settings is set to 90%
[23:55] <PSiL0> didn't work :-/
[23:56] <erland> Hi, really simple question here hopefully: I'm trying to install KDE 4 on Ubuntu 8.10 - looks like the way you're supposed to do that is through the kubuntu-desktop meta package, but when I try that, it conflicts with displayconfig-gtk and guidance-backends - I don't want to lose my nice automatic monitor set-up & detection under Gnome... what can I do?