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lukehasnonameEvening gents03:25
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pittibonjour seb12808:45
seb128hello pitti!08:45
pittiseb128: FYI, doing the ekiga 3 update ATM08:45
seb128cool, thanks08:45
seb128grrr at xulrunner breaking $webbrowser, brb08:47
seb128lool: hi, do you still need the evince hildon patch? it has been disabled some time ago and nobody complain but there is still a copy in the package I'm wondering if it should stay there09:23
seb128lool: I think we stopped using it because it was using the hildon fileselector changes and that was not working in intrepid09:27
pittiseb128: argh, ekiga 3 forgets *all* configuration settings from 2 :(10:07
seb128pitti: urg, upstream deserves some kicking there10:08
pittiit starts with the wizard, doesn't know my SIP numbers in evo any more, no call history any more, etc.10:08
pittiso I'm not sure at all whether I should upload this now10:08
seb128could you try to figure if that's an upstream choice or a bug?10:09
seb128we are not likely to do the upstream work there so if that's a choice we can decided to stay on the current version for ever or upload the new one10:09
pittiseb128: I'll file some bugs upstream, let's see10:12
seb128ok10:12
pittiseb128: using @ekiga.net numbers doesn't even work any more10:14
pittigah10:14
pittiseb128: ok, done, and mentioned the upstream bugs in bug 27408510:41
ubottuLaunchpad bug 274085 in ekiga "Please update Ekiga to 3.00" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/27408510:41
seb128pitti: thanks10:41
huatsmorning everyone10:48
seb128hello huats10:49
huatshey seb12810:49
lukehasnonameWhat package involves the top menus in Gnome?11:23
seb128lukehasnoname: what do you mean exactly?11:23
lukehasnonamewell,11:26
lukehasnonameI don't exactly know where to start, but I very strongly prefer the "fedora" style of the top menus, where the preferences and system menus are broken into smaller groups of similar tasks11:27
lukehasnonameand just for kicks I was wondering what packages are involved in fixing that, so that I could "patch" the issue I have on my own11:28
seb128lukehasnoname: gnome-menus has the layouts and the applications .desktop set their own categories then so you might need to change those too11:30
lukehasnonamethanks, I'll check and see if that is what I want11:32
lukehasnonameI really should go to bed though11:32
lukehasnonameit's 5:30am and I have class at 1011:32
kagouHi12:36
seb128hey kagou12:38
loolseb128: Thanks for the headsup, I think we're using plain evince gtk for now for the reason you described14:27
loolseb128: ideally, we'd reenable it with an evince-hildon build, just removing the hildon-fm part, but we can do that anytime14:27
seb128lool: does it make easier if we keep the patch copied in the debian directory somewhere meanwhile?14:28
loolseb128: I don't understand14:29
loolseb128: You mean you propose to put the patch somewhere?14:29
loolseb128: Anywhere is fine14:29
seb128lool: the current package has the patch copied in the debian directory but not used since it didn't apply and we didn't want to block the update, so we copied it out of the patches directory14:30
loolseb128: Oh right, just rename it to .patch.disabled if you like14:30
seb128that's what we did14:30
seb128the question was whether we should keep it under this name or if we can drop it14:31
seb128ie, will it be useful when you try to hildonize it again14:31
loolseb128: It's easiest to find it like this, but if it's a pain, remove it14:31
seb128no it's not, I was just wondering if you planned to hildonize it again some day14:32
seb128I'll keep it14:32
seb128lool: otherwise I've been looking at syncing pygobject and pygtk on debian14:32
seb128did you try to build the new pygtk?14:32
loolseb128: Let me check14:32
loolseb128: BTW I'm not supposed to do distro stuff this week14:33
seb128the make checks breaks there because it tries to access the su recently-used14:33
loolseb128: Yeah, I recall that testsuite failure14:33
loolseb128: I didn't look into it, but I made the testsuite not fail the build14:33
loolseb128: I didn't merge any of the late pygtk/pygobject work to debian though14:34
loolToo much in a hurry back then14:34
seb128lool: ah, I didn't know, there is no hurry those will likely wait next week anyway because debian bumped the python version to 2.5 which will force to rebuild eveything which uses python2.4-gobject14:34
seb128and there is a CD planned for this week14:34
loolI see14:34
seb128anyway enough distro questions for you for now then, thanks for replying ;-)14:34
loolhappy to help :)14:36
lool(It's ok to answer short questions, just can't start any real distro work)14:36
seb128pedro_: you closed bug #83326 too quickly, the crash is a gnome-keyring one, they dupped the upstream bug wrongly or reassigned to the wrong component14:48
ubottuLaunchpad bug 83326 in gnome-keyring "[apport] [feisty] gnome-keyring-daemon crashed with SIGSEGV in strcmp()" [Medium,Won't fix] https://launchpad.net/bugs/8332614:48
pedro_seb128: ok looking at it14:49
pedro_seb128: i'll re open it and re assign the upstream one14:50
pedro_seb128: thanks!14:50
seb128pedro_: thank you ;-)14:50
seb128fta: are you still interested to look at the cairo update?14:58
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asacseb128: hi ... do you know anyone from upstream we could bribe to take a look at the at-spi patch from gnome bug 558028  (lp 278095)?15:31
ubottuGnome bug 558028 in atkbridge "atkbridge makes firefox remote client crash during shutdown/atexit" [Major,Unconfirmed] http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=55802815:32
ubottuLaunchpad bug 278095 in at-spi "MASTER crash in getenv() ... spi_atk_bridge_exit_func()" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/27809515:32
seb128asac: hello, no I don't really know the a11y contributors, you should try asking to themuso rather15:33
asacseb128: yeah did so i -devel. just thought you might know more ;)15:33
seb128was worth asking but I don't ;-)15:34
seb128mvo: bug #29736215:52
ubottuLaunchpad bug 297362 in gnome-games "package gnome-games-data 1:2.24.1-0ubuntu2 failed to install/upgrade: short read in buffer_copy (backend dpkg-deb during `./usr/share/python-support/gnome-games-data/glchess/chess/board.py')" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/29736215:52
seb128mvo: would it be possible to filter out those errors? or autoduplicate rather15:53
seb128that's a dpkg bug or something?15:53
james_wwould a bug pattern work?15:53
seb128james_w: aren't bug pattern specific to a source or binary component?15:54
james_wnot sure, sounds likely though15:54
mvoseb128: I will add it15:56
seb128grrrrrr, xulrunner stucked again, how can we ship such crappy softwares15:57
seb128need to restart15:57
seb128_re16:01
seb128_mvo: thanks16:01
asacseb128: xulrunner? during what use case?17:06
asacflash? or general epiphany bustage?17:07
seb128asac: still the same issue I gave you valgrind logs about during the hardy cycle17:07
seb128asac: it sometimes crash or hang when you close it17:08
asacok crash.17:08
seb128no, crash is alright17:08
seb128sometime it hangs17:08
seb128and blocks any other new instance17:08
seb128the stacktrace looks similar when it hangs17:09
seb128I think I read on some debian bug that the next xulrunner upload will fix a similar issue17:11
seb128let's see if it's fixed this cycle ;-)17:11
asacseb128: fixed upstream or in debian?17:11
asaclet me search for the bug17:11
seb128the debian maintainer wrote in a bug that the next xulrunner upload to debian should fix the issue17:12
seb128dunno if the fix is an upstream one or a debian specific change though17:12
asachmm buglist of xulrunner in debian is quite short17:17
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seb128the bug is one assigned to epiphany-browser, I would have read the comments otherwise, I just read pkg-gnome bugs there17:18
seb128but there was no useful detail17:18
asacseb128: would be grateful for a bug id ;)17:19
asacno pending bugs in epiphany-browser atm17:19
seb128asac: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=50444117:19
ubottuDebian bug 504441 in epiphany-gecko "epiphany-gecko crashes on quit" [Important,Open]17:19
asacseb128: a bit strange. the crash has a line number upstream doesnt have in nsThreadUtils.cpp17:34
asaclooked at debian diff.gz and it seems they have a tentative fix17:34
asacthat would make the file match that line number again17:34
asacbut that means the fix doesnt work17:35
asachttp://paste.ubuntu.com/73407/17:35
seb128they didn't do any upload since they added the comment though17:35
asaca bit strange because the crash is a null deref17:35
seb128which would suggest the change has not been uploaded yet17:35
asacyeah. must be17:36
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pittiif I have a gconftool --dump output, how can I feed that back into gconf?20:02
pittifound it (--load)20:15
* calc thinks he might be getting an ear infection :\21:08
calcnever had one of those before though so not quite sure what it feels like21:09
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