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rlaagerandrews: You probably want to work on gparted. You should contact them.00:09
andrewsrlaager:  I saw gparted on Launchpad is that the main project.00:11
rlaagerandrews: This is most likely off-topic for this chat room. Google gave me this: http://gparted.sourceforge.net/00:12
andrewsrlaager: thanks00:12
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GodfatherofEireI know that I'm probably going to be re-directed, but have any of you specifically dealt with the usplash setup for the previous releases, and/or working on it for Jaunty?00:28
HobbseeGodfatherofEire: would suggest checking the changelog of the package 'usplash' to see who's been working on it.00:29
Hobbseethat appears to be pitti, who will be asleep at the moment (he's in germany)00:30
GodfatherofEireTHank you Hobbsee.00:30
HobbseeGodfatherofEire: you're welcome00:30
Hobbseeyou'll probably have to wait 7+ hours, i expect00:30
GodfatherofEireWhere would I find this Changelog, however?00:30
Hobbseeaptitude changelog usplash00:30
GodfatherofEireIch kann warten Hobbsee (I think that'd be it)00:31
Hobbseeor changelogs.ubuntu.com00:31
HobbseeGodfatherofEire: :)00:31
GodfatherofEireWell, thanks for the help, looks like I'll be back in a bit.00:31
Hobbseegood luck :)00:32
GodfatherofEireThanks.00:33
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jdongare there any future plans for proper 32-bit library support on x86-64, instead of our ia32-libs hack?02:05
TheMusojdong: WOuldn't that mean apt/dpkg multi-arch support?02:06
jdongTheMuso: yeah, I guess02:07
RAOFThat seems to have died a quiet death.02:08
jdongI was hoping we can do away with scripts like getlibs02:11
RAOFIt'd be nice.02:15
RAdamswhy did they change the default inode size to 256 in a new intrepid install? that borks so many utilities for cross-platform FS access...03:37
RAdamswhat makes 256 blocks so great?03:38
RAdamsand, how do I install ubuntu in such a way as to prevent that from happening again? I'll have to reformat as it is03:38
blahblehhello, i've been thinking about/working on a little app, that would be similar in purpose to #ubuntu, but would allow each end-user with their own problem to have their own little "room" - ie: it's just for their problem. anyone coming in who wants to help can have a look at all the problems people have listed and want live help for, and go in and out; the advantage being that a person can get help from one or more people without inter05:38
persiablahbleh, Something like answers.launchpad.net, except interactive?05:39
Hobbseeblahbleh: you got cut off, too05:39
blahblehpretty much, yeah. #ubuntu is good because you don't need an account or anything ad can get right into it; this would be similar05:39
blahblehhobbsee: where did i get cut off?05:40
persiaPersonally, I suspect the main issue is that there's little opportunity for collaboration and cooperation.  One of the great strengths of places like #ubuntu is that as each of us learns more we can help those learning those things whilst seeking help for that which we don't yet understand.05:40
Hobbseemore people without inter05:40
blahbleh"the advantage being that a person can get help from one or more people without interference from other people who have their own problems. good idea or bad idea? should i keep going? (not even sure if this is the right place; if not, point me :-) )"05:41
persiaIt's probably not the right place, but the location of the right place escapes me.05:42
persiaThat said, I still don't think it's good.  Look at the throughput at answers.launchpad.net as compared to the forums.05:42
blahblehpersia: good point with collaboration... i was thinking that anyone using the app can roam between rooms if they want to, preferably as long as they keep on the same subject as the OP. it would be a bit like ubuntuforums in that respect05:43
persiaIt's the same issue: a.l.n expects people to want to solve problems, and look for them (which happens, but to a moderate degree).  the forums encourages people to answer simple questions so that more complex questions get the attention of others, because it's not separate.05:43
persiaWell, maybe.  With the right design, it might work.  The trick is maintaining the incentive for people to answer simple stuff, and build the sense of working together towards a common goal.05:44
blahblehthanks very much for the insight, persia :-)   i suppose part of the #ubuntu incentive is that it's *fun*, and incredibly easy05:47
persiaYep :)05:47
blahblehi think i'll keep at it (it's good coding practice anyway, and i have heaps of free time at the moment)05:47
dholbachgood morning06:45
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pittiGood morning06:52
dholbachhi pitti06:52
Hobbseehey pitti, dholbach!06:53
dholbachhi Hobbsee, hi iulian06:53
iulianMorning Daniel.06:54
iulianHey Hobbsee.06:54
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pittiRiddell: does your "breaks adept" comment in bug 278602 apply to the intrepid SRU or jaunty?08:07
ubottuLaunchpad bug 278602 in kde4libs "Error loading module Embeddable Image Viewer" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/27860208:07
pittiasac: is bug 27809508:20
ubottuLaunchpad bug 278095 in firefox-3.0 "MASTER crash in getenv() ... spi_atk_bridge_exit_func()" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/27809508:20
pittiasac: ... an issue in firefox at all?08:20
Riddellpitti: to the SRU version10:05
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ikoniawgrant: possibly to pick up here ?11:44
wgrantikonia: Possibly. You might get better results here from people who know what they're talking about.11:45
ikoniaI think your quite on track11:45
ikoniaI was just curious to how things like the libc headers are decided if the toolchain components are picked up pretty quick after the current release11:46
ikoniathe headers are a good/easy example11:46
cjwatsonhow they're "decided"? I don't understand the question11:46
ikoniacjwatson: from a previous discussion it was explained the the toolchain for current+1 is finalised quite quick after current release11:46
ikoniaso would I be right in thinking that they are picked from a "current" libc header availability say based off 2.6.27 , or is there prospective choices such as say 2.6.29 headers11:47
cjwatsonoh, you mean linux-libc-dev?11:47
cjwatsonit's built directly from the kernel packaging11:48
ikoniathats one example yes11:48
cjwatsonso it always matches whatever kernel is current in the release11:48
ikoniacjwatson: that part I would expect however, the current jaunty kernel is 2.6.27, which measn the headers would be based from the .27 kernel11:48
sorenikonia: We don't start from scratch with every release.11:48
sorenikonia: When Jaunty came into existence, it was identical to Intrepid.11:48
ikoniaso if you swap later on to say 2.6.29 will your headers follow that or stay with .2711:48
cjwatsonikonia: yes, that'll be changed whenever the kernel team get a new kernel in place11:49
cjwatsonthe headers will follow that11:49
ikoniathat makes sense11:49
ikoniaperfect11:49
cjwatsonit's not ideal that it tends to be a while before the kernel is available so in a sense the toolchain is always going to change quite a bit after the initial bootstrap, but the kernel team are only human and it does take time; I don't think it's all that important in practice11:51
ikoniacjwatson this is what I suspected, which makes sense now returning back to a prevsious conversation which made me ask this question11:52
persiaI think we usually get someone in the range of 3-5 packages that need readjustment for the changes per cycle, which is not unmanageable.11:52
persias/someone/somewhere/11:52
ikoniapersia really, that few ?11:52
persiaikonia, While the kernel changes a lot, the libc headers from the kernel don't tend to change too wildly.  Depends on which package uses the feature that just went from deprecated to obsolete.11:53
ikoniapersia yes, they have stabiliised a lot since the ed of the LLC project,11:53
ikoniapersia: I just would have expected more breakage11:53
persiaWell, there's certainly the possibility of breakage that I don't hear about :)11:53
ikoniaI just remember how fussy things like libc and binutil where to header changes, even slight ones11:54
ikoniaso I'm surprised that you don't have more breakages, it is a positive thing that you don't though11:54
cjwatsonit's not that bad nowadays.11:54
ikoniaI guess I see more due to the cross-compiling process, rather than the native build, which isn't a good benchmark11:55
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ikoniainteresting info, thansk chaps11:57
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seb128doko: you really don't want to use requestsync?13:10
kagouHi13:12
kagoutkamppeter, what do you think about my comment on #294671 ?13:13
seb128do we have a list of packages which have a newer version in debian experimental than ubuntu somewhere?13:22
mvoseb128: if we don't have one, I could write you one I think13:24
seb128mvo: I can probably hack something too, I was just wondering because for GNOME all the recents versions are in experimental so that's what we want to base updates on13:25
seb128and I expect it's not only GNOME since debian is frozen for a while13:25
joaopintois there an easy way to set conditional name resolution, like using different dns server ips based on the hostname domain ?13:27
sorenWhere's the documentation for the format of the files in /usr/share/pam-configs?13:29
cjwatsonsoren: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PAMConfigFrameworkSpec13:30
mvoseb128: whatever you prefer, I was thinking of something very simple based around the apt.Cache(rootdir=debian-experimental); cache.update(); and again for jaunty13:31
persiaseb128, mdt can generate that fairly easily.  Do you think it's useful to have a persistent list?13:31
sorencjwatson: Thanks.13:32
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seb128persia: what is mdt? that would be useful to have an idea on things we might want to update13:33
gesermulti-distro-tools13:33
seb128persia: usually there is not so many things there but during freezes they upload to experimental a lot of things which would go usually to unstable13:33
geserhttp://qa.ubuntuwire.com/multidistrotools/13:33
seb128geser: ok, still doesn't tell me a lot13:33
seb128looking13:33
mvogeser: interessting, is the source available?13:34
persiaseb128, It's a tool to compare versions of sortware between debian-format archives.  Very handy.  Originally put together by the Utnubu folk.13:34
seb128mvo: I did something around those lines previous cycle to list merges to do for the desktop team I think, let me have a look if I still have the code around13:34
persiamvo, There should be a link to the source on that page.  If not, check LP.13:34
gesermvo: wgrant should have access to the scripts used on ubuntuwire, I just have a old checkout from somewhere13:36
cjwatsoncould somebody do me the favour of a quick MIR review? bug 29903213:43
ubottuLaunchpad bug 299032 in isoquery "please promote isoquery to main" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/29903213:43
cjwatsonit's on my critical path for getting the installer working for alpha 113:44
Haeginhi, can a preseed file contain commands that are executed before being passed to the client?13:57
cjwatsonexecuted on the server?13:58
Haegincjwatson: yeah13:59
cjwatsonHaegin: no, but there are other approaches that can get you similar effects; what are you actually trying to do?13:59
Haegini want to set a hostname for the client without knowing anything about the client, i really don't care what hostname it gets, it just needs to be unique13:59
Gast171dfdds14:00
Haegini am installing ubuntu on about 10PCs in an afternoon each week and netbooting them seems the solution14:00
cjwatsonHaegin: use preseed/include and point it at a CGI script that generates something unique14:00
cjwatsonHaegin: or just feed out hostnames using DHCP14:00
Haegincjwatson: i tried the hostnames using dhcp approach and the only thing i could find wanted me to prefill the config files with maps between mac addresses and hostnames14:01
cjwatsondhcp assigns IP address, reverse-DNS ...14:03
cjwatsonyou have a finite pool of IP addresses right? :-)14:03
Haeginyeah :)14:03
cjwatsoncomment in netcfg says:14:03
cjwatson                 * Default to the hostname returned via DHCP, if any,14:03
cjwatson                 * otherwise to the requested DHCP hostname14:04
cjwatson                 * otherwise to the hostname found in DNS for the IP address14:04
cjwatson                 * of the interface14:04
cjwatsonso just seed your DNS server with the IP address range in question14:04
Haeginit is currently giving an error of "" not being a valid hostname which is the problem I am trying to avoid14:05
HaeginI think for simplicity i will use the include in the preseed file14:06
Haeginthanks cjwatson14:06
cjwatsonno problem14:07
pitticjwatson: if you are too busy with getting d-i in shape, I can do the installation-report merge; shall I?14:07
NCommanderdholbach, ping14:07
dholbachNCommander: pong14:07
cjwatsonpitti: it's ok, I'll do it now14:07
cjwatsonpitti: you can do the isoquery MIR in exchange :-)14:07
pitticjwatson: hehe, deal14:07
pitticjwatson: I didn't get a mail, and it's not on https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mir/+subscribedbugs, hm14:10
pittiyou mean "write it" then, I take it14:11
tkamppeterkagou, pitti, I have also already thought about SRUing bug 294671. Therefore I have nominated it for Intrepid.14:11
ubottuLaunchpad bug 294671 in gutenprint "Driver reports "ColorSpace is not supported" for Canon iP4500" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/29467114:11
* pitti subscribes ubuntu-mir to bug 299032 and does it14:12
ubottuLaunchpad bug 299032 in isoquery "please promote isoquery to main" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/29903214:12
cjwatsonpitti: oh, sorry, I forgot to subscribe ubuntu-mir to the bug14:13
cjwatsonpitti: I wasn't expecting you to write it, no :)14:13
kagoutkamppeter, oh great, thanks !14:13
cjwatsoninstallation-report done14:14
pittitkamppeter: nomination accepted; however, we should let this mature a bit more, I feel14:14
pitticjwatson: bzr merge FTW :)14:14
cjwatsonyeah, not exactly hard work :)14:14
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tkamppeterkagou, it turned out that the Poppler-based pdftoraster filter has not only problem with SpliX but also with Gutenprint and perhaps also with other drivers. Therefore we will not proceed as we did with the SRU for SpliX (adding the Ghostscript-based pdftoraster to Intrepid's driver package) but we should generally replace the pdftoraster driver by the new one.14:24
tkamppeterkagou, with this we will wait for a certain time to see whether the Ghostscript-based pdftoraster driver does not show other problems.14:25
kagouok14:25
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asacpitti: not really understood if its ffox14:37
asacpitti: but its likely that the root cause is somewhere in ffox14:38
asacpitti: somehow nspluginwrapper 1.1.2 wasnt built (not attempted) on i38614:59
asacwhile 1.1.0 is properly available14:59
asacboth were uploaded during intrepid15:01
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persiaasac, I suspect you still have 1.1,0-0ubuntu1 for i386, rather than 1.1.0-0ubuntu2, based on upload dates and P-a-s commit logs.15:07
asacpersia: do you see a reason in pas commit logs?15:07
persiaasac, Nope.  The relevant commit is http://cvs.debian.org/srcdep/Packages-arch-specific?rev=1.712&root=dak&view=markup15:08
persiaasac, Sorry.  Didn't scroll to the right enough.  "64-bit wrapper for 32-bit i386 plugins"15:09
asacsuper15:10
asacbut no bug ;)15:10
asaci would like to see what triggers these kind of things15:10
persiaNo.  P-a-s changes aren't managed by bugs.15:10
asachow are they?15:10
persiaemail to the P-a-s committers requesting changes.15:10
persiaChanges get posted to debian-dak@lists.debian.org for review.15:12
asacso who to CC ... rmurray, infinity ... anyone else?15:13
cjwatsonasac: mail addresses at the top of the file15:14
asaccjwatson: thanks15:15
asachmm. rmurray is not in there15:15
asacok sent15:20
zerwasIs there any work going on in implementing support for intrepid in debootstrap? (scripts/intrepid is missing in http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/d/debootstrap/debootstrap_1.0.10ubuntu1~intrepid1.tar.gz )15:22
asaczerwas: you mean jaunty?15:23
zerwasasac: no, i meant intrepid. i wonder why the package i linked to does not contain a file called intrepid15:24
cjwatsonzerwas: it's not missing, it's created as a symlink to gutsy at runtime15:25
cjwatsoner, build-time15:25
cjwatsonsee Makefile15:25
zerwascjwatson: oh ... i tried to symlink it manually but failed. thanks for the hint, i'll have a look15:25
cjwatsonzerwas: fear not, intrepid supports debootstrapping intrepid ;-)15:25
cjwatsonzerwas: get the binary package rather than the source package if you can15:25
zerwasd'oh! there it is. thanks.15:26
asacTheMuso: do we know anyone from at-spi upstream we could poke to take a look at patch in gnome bug 558028 (lp 278095)15:34
ubottuGnome bug 558028 in atkbridge "atkbridge makes firefox remote client crash during shutdown/atexit" [Major,Unconfirmed] http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=55802815:34
ubottuLaunchpad bug 278095 in at-spi "MASTER crash in getenv() ... spi_atk_bridge_exit_func()" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/27809515:34
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emgentflashplugin 64bit is out: http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/flashplayer10/libflashplayer-10.0.d20.7.linux-x86_64.so.tar.gz16:13
cjwatsonkees,jdstrand_: is it OK if I copy all the packages from intrepid-security that are newer than jaunty into jaunty? the list is: dovecot 1:1.1.4-0ubuntu1.2; enscript 1.6.4-12ubuntu0.8.10.1; linux 2.6.27-7.16; procps 1:3.2.7-9ubuntu2.116:16
cjwatsonalso pam 1.0.1-4ubuntu5.3 from intrepid-updates16:16
emgentDktrKranz: pinghe ponghe16:26
wasabiso at some point something started rebuilding /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf. Debconf I'm assuming. Except it lost the send "<hostname>" setting.16:33
wasabisup with that?16:33
wasabiI thought we'd just fixed that in hardy.16:34
slangasekcjwatson: I wouldn't worry about pam, I have an update pending for that (but it also doesn't hurt if you do copy it :)16:34
wasabiHmm. No. Broke in hardy. Well then.16:35
NCommanderpitti, ping16:36
slangasekwasabi: eew?  dhclient.conf is a conffile and shouldn't be rebuilt.16:36
cjwatsonslangasek: copied for tidiness, then16:36
wasabiI just installed a clean hardy, and dhclient.conf is a single line long... and 'looks' generated. And dpkg-dist exists, with the original Debian content16:36
wasabiI'm not sure what the thought here is.16:37
slangasekwasabi: I'm not seeing this on my hardy install16:37
wasabiHmm.  Well. I just finished the install. Server install.16:38
NCommandercjwatson, mind if I ask you an SRU question?16:38
wasabiLet me dig through post* stuff and see if I can find it16:38
cjwatsonNCommander: better to ask than to ask to ask ...16:38
NCommandercjwatson, during my efforts to resolve a FTBFS in adept in intrepid-proposed, it seems that the cmake shipped with intrepid has a bug that causes it to hardcode in the paths of some libraries from the build-envrionment, i.e. /build/buildd, etc.16:39
liwcjwatson, can I ask slangasek if I can ask Keybuk whether he's OK with me asking sabdfl about presenting him with a question on the general topic of asking me a question?16:39
cjwatsonkees,jdstrand_: copied dovecot and enscript; linux and procps go together and I might just wait for the kernel team to get an upload together16:39
cjwatsonliw: :-P16:40
slangasekEMETAOVERFLOW16:40
wasabislangasek: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dhcp3/+bug/221881         Seems to be the same problem.16:40
ubottuLaunchpad bug 221881 in dhcp3 "dhcp3-client does not send hostname" [Undecided,New]16:40
NCommandercjwatson, the version of cmake in jaunty and intrepid-backports has this bug resolved16:40
wasabiOh well. Man. I thought we had this stuff solid now.16:40
wasabiGuess not.16:40
NCommandercjwatson, it wasn't caught because it seems only the last update to cmake caused it to manifest, and kdelibs wasn't rebuilt until a small patch was added via updates16:40
slangasekwasabi: that doesn't seem to be a report of the problem of dhclient.conf being munged to death, though?16:41
wasabiIt's not clear whether it is or not.16:41
NCommandercjwatson, I've been trying to find the commit in cmake's CVS that fixed this, but I don't see any explicate references to a bug that would cause this, it might have been unintentionally fixed. Is it possible we could drop the newer cmake into proposed/updates if I can't isolate the necessary change? (I'm working to see if there is a less invasive solution, but its not looking promising)16:41
wasabiHe says he also has a dhclient.conf.dpkg-dist, which I do too.16:41
wasabiClean install and I ended up with a .dpkg-dist16:42
wasabiI don't know what's doing it either. none of the maintainer scripts seem to be touching it.16:42
slangasekso my best guess is that something is creating the dhclient.conf before dhcp3-client is installed; then the installer is using the default "use locally modified version" option non-interactively16:43
wasabiAhh.16:43
wasabid-i must be doing it16:43
cjwatsonNCommander: the least invasive option would be to fix it just in the packages where it causes a problem; I'm a bit scared of any cmake changes given its reverse-build-dep list16:43
slangasekbut I've never seen this in practice.  I've also never done a server install.16:43
slangasek(not a persistent one, anyway)16:44
slangasekwasabi: you said your dhclient.conf was one line long, what's the line?16:44
wasabi"request subnet-mask, broadcast-address, time-offset, routers, domain-name,    domain-name-servers, host-name, ntp-servers;"16:44
wasabiFunny spacing included.16:44
slangasekhmm16:44
cjwatsond-i stopped copying dhclient.conf to the target system in intrepid due to conffile problems like this16:44
wasabiOkay. So this is just a hardy problem ya'll have fixed16:44
slangasekah, so this is resolved for intrepid but present in hardy16:44
cjwatsonI believe so16:44
NCommandercjwatson, fair enough, although I think my hack meter might self-destruct from the necessary fixes16:45
cjwatsonthis is just from scanning the netcfg changelog though16:45
cjwatsonNCommander: if it is necessary, I'd like a second opinion from another Kubuntu developer as well; just because I don't know the area at all myself16:45
wasabiI've noticed -updates has become a bit more liberal lately. Could this be something for consideration?16:48
slangasekwasabi: if a reasonably self-contained fix is possible, we could roll that into 8.04.2, yes16:59
kirklandpitti: ping, regarding your comments to https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/25963117:06
ubottuLaunchpad bug 259631 in ecryptfs-utils "Cannot open Private directory after a reboot when "Automatic Login" enabled" [Medium,Fix committed]17:06
kirklandpitti: i responded in the bug;  will need some feedback from you either here or there before proceeding.17:11
keescjwatson: cool, thanks.17:17
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keescjwatson: I'm fine with copying the kernel/procps stuff too, unless the kernel team actually objects for some reason.17:18
slangasekkees: hee, upstream has looked at the per-user env pam_environment patch, and reports that it's full of memory leaks17:20
keesslangasek: interesting.  it's been a while since I've looked at that.17:20
keesI think tollef wrote it originally.  which processes would see the leak?17:23
Mithrandirgdm17:24
keesMithrandir: ah-ha!  I couldn't think of something that was long-running.  (ssh exits, login exits)17:25
keesslangasek: looks like it should be easy to fix.17:25
Mithrandirmaybe gdm-login would be the one.17:25
keesMithrandir: looks like callers of _pam_parse just need to free all the passed variables?17:27
Mithrandirkees: yeah, I think so.17:28
Mithrandir"full of memory leaks" is probably a slight exaggeration, but fixing this would be good anyway.17:28
keesMithrandir: yeah, agreed.  just a slow build-up of a few strings per login.17:29
Mithrandiryup17:29
Mithrandirso you'll run out of memory if you log in and out two million times and only have 64MB RAM.17:29
Mithrandir(ok, it leaks a bit more, but less than 1k per login, I think, so not exactly a big problem)17:31
pittiNCommander: pong17:58
pittikirkland: replied17:59
kirklandpitti: yeah, sorry about that ... i should have explained that more clearly in the SRU details18:00
pittikirkland: no need to be, was just a misunderstanding18:00
kirklandpitti: i'll add a couple of lines to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedPrivateDirectory on how to establish those symlinks18:01
NCommanderpitti, cjwatson answered my question18:18
jelmerDoes anybody know whether Ian Jackson hangs out on IRC?18:30
cjwatsonnot routinely on this network18:31
cjwatsonprobably best to e-mail him18:31
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zulslangasek: ping what do you think of https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/282298?19:50
ubottuLaunchpad bug 282298 in samba "Intrepid: No Access to NAS (samba<=2.2.x) shares any more" [Medium,Confirmed]19:50
slangasekzul: the NAS is insecure and they should migrate to something newer; and if they don't like that answer they have to re-enable 'client lanman auth', which is now disabled by default upstream19:53
zulslangasek: ok19:54
slangasekzul: oh, but there's a patch that fixes a protocol compatibility issue with Samba 2.2?19:54
slangasekthat would be sensible to apply, then; I assumed this was the known password encryption compat issue19:54
slangasekand is appropriate for SRU19:55
zulslangasek: yeah theirry did the path I was just going to upload to proposed now19:55
directhexhm, usplash looks completely busted when a widescreen console mode is forced19:59
mohbana_is anyone using the 64bit flash plugin20:00
directhexmohbana_, just trying it out20:01
mohbana_directhex: i'd also like to but i'm afraid something will break20:02
mohbana_something. flash is always crashing my machine it's absurd20:02
directhexmohbana_, thedailyshow.com is no longer a guaranteed browser crash20:05
joaopintomohbana_, you can't break nothing, except that if flashes crashes your browser will crash20:06
directhexjoaopinto, which nspluginwrapper has been doing for years20:08
directhexhm. usplash is very confused. how do debug it.....20:08
directhexsigh. bollocks to it. i'll just try a non-widescreen fb mode, and file a bug20:14
directhexurgh, 1024x768 is still fail20:15
directhexhm. if i can pick between usplash fail or console fail, do i file a bug against usplash or the kernel?20:20
NCommanderpitti, hola20:29
wgrantgeser: http://people.ubuntuwire.com/~fujitsu/bzr/multidistrotools/, for future reference. I think there's only one new revision since I last pushed to lp:~ubuntu-qa/multidistrotools/ubuntuwire, however.20:30
wgrantThere are a few changes in the dead Debian branch that I should probably merge at some point, but nothing too significant.20:30
pittihi NCommander20:31
NCommanderpitti, in the mood to sponsor and process an SRU for intrepid in main for me :-)?20:32
pittiNCommander: can do, but not today any more (about to fall to bed, not feeling well)20:33
pittiNCommander: can you please subscribe me to the bug? I'll do it tomororw20:33
NCommanderpitti, sure. SRU is subscribed, but I'll add you specifically20:33
pittiNCommander: SRU is fine, too, I get that20:33
pittiArneGoetje: did you send a CFT to -translators@?20:57
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CeriandI'm trying to make some changes to the configure.in file for pango to get it to compile for directfb22:57
Ceriandi run autogen.sh and it completes with a warning: configure.in:40: version `pango_version()' doesn't follow Gnits standards22:57
Cerianddoing ./configure works fine22:57
Ceriandbut when i try to run make it gives me the same error as above22:57
Ceriandanyone more versed in autoconf-fu care to help me out?22:58

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