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evandcjwatson: re partman-target> will do09:23
CIA-2localechooser: cjwatson * r141 ubuntu/ (49 files in 3 dirs): merge from Debian 2.0814:00
CIA-2installation-report: cjwatson * r63 ubuntu/ (25 files in 3 dirs): merge from Debian 2.3814:12
CIA-2installation-report: cjwatson * r64 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 2.38ubuntu114:14
CIA-2localechooser: cjwatson * r142 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 2.08ubuntu114:15
eolo999hi, i came here just to ask for materials on installer preseeding... the wiki docs at https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/installation-guide/hppa/preseed-using.html starts to much in the middle and it's quite messy...14:15
cjwatsonwell, perhaps it starts in the middle because it isn't the first part of the relevant chapter in the guide :)14:17
cjwatsongo to the end of the page and follow the link labelled "Introduction"14:17
cjwatsonthe installation guide is the best material on preseeding we have14:18
cjwatsonyou do have to read all of it though14:18
cjwatsonrather, all of that appendix B14:18
eolo999cjwatson: i started from the beginning ;)...14:18
cjwatsonwhat exactly is confusing you?14:18
* eolo999 tries to make things clear in his mind...14:19
eolo999cjwatson: i think the big picture it's not well explained and that many 'agents' get involved without being presented properly (initrd, debconf database, bootloader, etc.)...14:28
eolo999imho it seems to be clear to insiders of the d-i ;)14:30
cjwatsonI think perhaps it's also clear if you've read the entire installation guide from the beginning14:31
cjwatsonwhich might be a lot to ask14:31
cjwatsoninitrd: initial ram disk containing the "core" of the installer: everything that runs before "Retrieving installer components" is in the initrd14:32
cjwatsondebconf database: database containing all the questions and answers involved in the installer, including some internal ones that aren't actually shown to the user14:32
cjwatsonbootloader: perhaps wikipedia is a better reference there14:32
eolo999cjwatson: i know what's initrd, debconf, and other things... do you really think the preseeding guide it's well done?14:34
cjwatsonI'm not saying it's perfect, but I'm not going to get into a vague conversation about it because I'm precisely one of those "insiders" and it's hard for me to know what isn't obvious to everyone else14:35
cjwatsonthe best way to improve it would be to file *specific* bug reports about *specific* things that weren't clear14:35
cjwatsonpreferably one item at a time14:36
eolo999cjwatson: i'll try to do it :)14:36
cjwatsonalso, you said it wasn't clear to you14:36
cjwatsonand yet you brought up things that you say you do understand14:36
cjwatsonso I'm not sure I understand if you have a specific problem yourself?14:36
cjwatsonI'm happy to help if so14:36
eolo999cjwatson: thx14:37
CIA-2debian-installer: cjwatson * r987 ubuntu/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Move mainline architectures to 2.6.27-9 kernels.14:50
CIA-2partman-target: evand * r737 ubuntu/ (66 files in 3 dirs): (log message trimmed)15:26
CIA-2partman-target: * Resynchronise with Debian. Remaining changes:15:26
CIA-2partman-target:  - Use UUID= fstab syntax for all partitions if a UUID is available, and15:26
CIA-2partman-target:  add a comment above each UUID to indicate the corresponding device at15:26
CIA-2partman-target:  install time.15:26
CIA-2partman-target:  - Disable automatic mounting of USB removable devices.15:26
CIA-2partman-target:  - Don't use UUIDs in fstab for those device types that volumeid.postinst15:26
CIA-2debian-installer: cjwatson * r988 ubuntu/ (13 files in 3 dirs): Move ports architectures to 2.6.27-1 kernels.23:46

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