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PriceChildbtw, incase anyone wants to help commiecary, jdong reccomends upgrading to ext4: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=97370100:05
* LjL takes note: never upgrade to ext400:06
PriceChild(he doesn't actually, but that's what he says about the upgrade)00:07
bazhangwow.02:01
PiciWhat a pleasant fellow.02:01
jribat least I don't feel so bad about kicking him now02:08
jdongPriceChild: so far I haven't lost any data :D02:12
jdong*knock on wood*02:12
jribjdong: real men don't have backups02:13
jdong:)02:14
bazhang<linuxjoe> fernandesfer, install wine and then install internet explorer, then u should be able to access hotmail with no problems <--as opposed to using ff3?02:15
bazhanghe seems to be giving some odd advice imo02:16
jdonghaha02:17
jdongI'd try faking user-agent first ;-)02:17
jdongbut I wouldn't be surprised if that doesn't work02:17
jdongMS has been clamping down on Hotmail access02:18
PiciIndeed. I've seen a few reports (not only in irc) of Hotmail not allowing Linux users to check their mail.02:18
jdongyeah and I've seen seom comments that it's not as simple as user-agent faking anymore02:18
jdongthey literally did something to the site to render it incompatible with non-IE browsers.02:19
jribwow02:19
jribguys, what can we do about these users trying linux?  Hmm..  Let's alienate them!02:20
ubottuFloodBot2 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit)02:20
ubottuFloodBot3 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit)02:20
jribthat was a lot of victims :/02:21
ubottuFloodBot3 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit)02:32
ubottuFloodBot2 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit)02:32
ubottuFloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit)02:33
nickruddang Pici you take all the fun out of #ubuntu ;(02:35
nickrudit's not even thanksgiving and I've just seen my first christmas commercial. 02:40
lakeofteawhere do i find new firmware for WRT54GS V7.2 ???02:41
nickrudlakeoftea, #ubuntu is the support channel02:42
bazhanglakeoftea, this is not a support channel02:42
lakeofteai was just wondering bc it keeps telling me my router is buggy with DCC exploit 02:43
ubottuFloodBot2 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit)02:44
ubottuFloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit)02:44
jdongcan the IDS feature not be turned off on the WRT54GS?02:45
lakeofteawhat is ids? im so confused02:45
lakeofteanot really, just a little02:45
vorianwhat's up guys02:45
jdongthe "Intrusion Detection System" that is causing your router to react to the DCC exploit02:45
jdongit should be a setting in the web configuration UI02:45
jdongat least I hope such a stupid feature can be disabled.... :-/02:46
lakeofteais it that bad really?02:47
jdongyes.02:49
lakeofteais it ident on port 113?02:49
jdongit looks for a particular string that starts with DCC and disconnects any connection that contains such data in the stream.02:49
lakeofteaso do i want to make sure dcc traffic can go through?  or no ???02:51
jdongno, I wouldn't care too much about it. Just connect to IRC on port 8001 as described in the guide.02:51
jdongmost routers with this bug actually do NOT have a firmware that fixes it02:51
jdongthe vendor simply doesn't think it's a problem02:52
lakeofteaapparently its preventing me from getting into #ubuntu :(02:52
jdongplease follow the instructions in the redirected channel to reconnect on port 800102:53
lakeofteak so i wanna give mirc a port?02:53
jdongcorrect.02:53
lakeofteanice i can do that02:53
lakeofteai was about to flash with openwrt happy i didnt have to go there02:53
lakeoftea:)02:54
jdongnow I wouldn't want to discourage you from doing that!02:54
lakeofteai actually do want to do that but i need to read a book or something on it 1st02:54
jdongI'd personally recommend DD-WRT, but that's just preference.02:54
lakeofteait says i should open 1024-5000 for mirc do you think thats really necessary?02:57
lakeofteaso many ports02:57
jdongwhoa, no way.02:57
lakeofteak good02:57
jdongyou just have to tell mirc that irc.freenode.com is on port 800102:57
jdonginstead of port 666702:58
jdongyou don't need to actually open any ports on the router02:58
lakeofteaohhhh i see02:58
lakeofteathats nice02:58
jdongyour router's "super security feature" only pays attention to port 6667 :)02:58
jdongmakes you feel nice and cozy, huh? :)02:58
lakeofteayes feel much better02:58
lakeofteak brb02:59
voriannice work jdong 02:59
voriancan you start from the beginning please?03:00
jdongthat's what she said?03:02
lakeofteathx jdong working good now03:04
jdongcool :)03:05
vorianlakeoftea: i don't think i'm gonna do that :)03:07
vorian(ident)03:07
vorianmaybe you'll get lucky somewhere else though03:07
Flanneler04:37
Flannel-ot ops?04:37
Flannelhisto spamming04:37
tritiumFlannel: need him gone?04:38
Flannelmm, he's apologising04:38
tritiumok04:38
FlannelNot sure how ascii spam is wrong window,04:38
tritiumI missed it.04:39
ubottuGnea called the ops in #ubuntu ()05:08
FlannelTheres... something05:10
FlannelI just am not sure what.05:10
FlannelAh, found it05:11
Flanneltony_ is that hello sinners guy.  And he's giving out bum information.05:11
Flanneltritium05:11
tritiumFlannel: "hello sinners" guy?05:12
Flanneltritium: yeah05:12
Flanneltritium: Thats how (s)he greets the channel when joining05:12
tritiumI've not encountered him before.05:12
tritiumah05:12
FlannelReally?  interesting05:13
tritiumI don't remember, at any rate.05:14
Gneaokay, sorry if you seem a bit miffed there tritium, but this tony_ guy is giving misleading information to users who have genuine issues05:15
Gneawould you like me to copy and paste some lines?05:16
tritiumNot necessary, Gnea.05:17
GneaThen what is necessary?05:17
FlannelGnea: We'll keep an eye on him, and have read the backlogs.05:17
GneaOkay.05:18
GneaI just get really irritated when someone comes along like that and starts to make trouble. I'm sorry if my frustration has rubbed off onto anyone else.05:21
Myrttiexcuse me, but wth am I doing awake06:42
Tm_Thugging me and listening oifm.fi06:43
elkbuntuTm_T, how's bubbeh?06:51
elkbuntuand wth are you doing on irc?06:51
Tm_Telkbuntu: I have to go to school today06:52
elkbuntu:(06:52
Tm_Tbut baby is fine, will go there before lectures06:52
elkbuntu:)06:53
elkbuntupics, or it didnt happen :P06:53
MyrttiI did some benchmarking yesterday.06:54
Tm_Telkbuntu: as soon as I get those out of that crappy camera06:54
Myrttidecided to test how long it will take for a certain work related command to run on my work desktop vs. my own laptop06:54
Myrttiwork desktop: real 3m3.316s; user 0m15.209s; sys 0m9.577s06:55
Myrttiown laptop: real 122m26.896s;user 0m34.910s; sys 0m37.662s06:55
Myrttiencouraging.06:56
elkbuntuunderclocked laptop?06:59
Myrttithis must be something about the fstab settings07:01
Myrttiand my wifi07:01
Myrttibecause now that I do that with local files instead of doing it to files that are nfs, mounted, the command took real0m34.002s on my laptop07:02
Myrttiprobably the sync07:02
ikoniaI assume everyone else got a dcc attack from bintang07:04
ikonia216.253.117.112] has joined #Ubuntu07:04
Myrttinow, or earlier?07:05
ikoniaearlier on07:05
ikoniaI had about 10 users attack me07:05
MyrttiI got lots of07:05
Tm_Thmm07:06
ikoniaahh couple of them got klined07:06
Myrttiikonia: sync was a bad idea :-P07:15
Myrtti(was it you who with I thought about this aloud last night?)07:15
Myrttianyway07:15
ikonianot sure07:22
ikoniasorry lost connection for a bit then07:22
Mezhow long till asus-tek messages me? (I sent him a message saying no to his FB request - just got this in reply"07:54
Mezlol hehe okey dude hope to see ya or meet ya soon on irc07:54
Meztc bye07:54
MezWarm regards Umakant :P :D 07:54
Tm_T n=ubuntu@80.77.146.50 0949.10 <ubuntu__> onlu gays use ubuntu07:54
Tm_T0949.31 <Tm_T> including you, son?07:54
MyrttiMez: wth lol07:55
ikoniaTm_T: wen was that07:55
ikoniawhen07:55
Tm_T5 minutes ago07:55
MezTm_T: not really the correct response ...07:55
MezMyrtti: you said you blocked him - where's the block button ? :P07:55
Tm_TMez: well I wanted to know his idea, wasn't my plan to call him anything07:55
Tm_TMez: just asking what exactly he is saying07:56
MezTm_T: still comes across badly07:56
MyrttiMez: http://www.facebook.com/privacy/?ref=mb07:56
Mezah well...07:56
Tm_TMez: I notice yes, should have made better sentence07:56
Tm_TMez: unfortunately I'm bit blind for this, my sayings could seem to worse than what I mean07:57
Mezah, under "report person"07:57
MezTm_T: *hugs*07:57
Tm_Tindeed07:57
* Mez wonders what "wii" stands for (in irssi /wii instead of whois every time - better info!)07:58
Tm_Twhois whois07:59
Tm_Tkinda07:59
Mezdamn crontabs07:59
Tm_TWII        whois $0 $008:00
MyrttiWHEEEE08:00
Myrttilol08:00
Tm_Tso, is it "Who Is Is" kinda then =)08:00
Myrttianyway, time to get up from the bed and make coffee08:00
Tm_TMyrtti: baby said his first words already08:00
Myrttiawwwwww08:01
Tm_T"ennääääää" or so08:01
Tm_Tor so it sounds when she cries =)08:01
Tm_Ts/his/her/08:01
MezMyrtti: conversly, for me - sleeping tablet time ;)08:02
MyrttiMez: good luck with that08:02
Mezhuh?08:02
Myrttisleeping meds >__<08:02
elkbuntuhold on... 'baby said his first words' 'or so it sounds when she cries' ... which is it?08:02
Mezyeah, I need them of late... cant sleep... 08:03
Mezand sleeping in the day isn't much fun either :(08:03
Myrttielkbuntu: [10:01] <+Tm_T> s/his/her/08:03
elkbuntuah08:03
elkbuntui missed that line, sorry08:03
Mezcross your fingers I get the job of running the network for the first school in the UK to switch to linux (ltsp ftw!)08:03
ikoniaMez: the first school ?08:04
ikoniaI've done 3 or 4 thorugh research machines08:04
ikoniathrough even08:04
Mezikonia: the first school in the UK to switch to linux...08:05
* Myrtti pulls on The Space Invaders shirt and gets going08:05
ikoniabut I've put Linux deployments in 3 or 4 08:05
MyrttiMez: the first school to publically announce the switch08:05
ikoniausing as you said ltsp 08:05
MezMyrtti: *shrugs*08:05
Myrtti*shrug*08:05
Mezikonia: dunno - but08:05
Mez08:11 <+ikonia> using as you said ltsp 08:06
Mezgrr08:06
Mezhttp://www.openhgs.org.uk/moin.cgi/LinuxProject08:06
ikoniathere is one in Birmingham, one in Swindgon (I think it's swindon) and one somewhere in scotland that I'm aware of08:06
Mezskegness ?08:06
* Mez cant find the info on the swindon one... but meh http://schoolforge.org.uk/index.php/Case_Studies = FLOSS in schools08:07
ikoniathats not scotland08:07
* Mez doesnt know08:07
Mezlol08:07
ikoniaah08:07
* Mez just knows handsworth grammar08:07
ikoniaI'm sure I could mail an old collegue if your interested in the names of the schools08:07
Mezfeel free, you have my email to drop me a line ;)08:08
ikoniaok08:08
Mezanyways - bedtime08:08
ikoniaI'll mail him when I get in the office08:08
ikoniabed time ??? it's 8:0 am 08:08
Tm_T#k has some lovely friends today08:08
Myrttioh my god08:10
Myrttitoday's xkcd made my eyes wet08:10
ikoniatrains in the satation, laters08:11
Tm_Tawww08:12
Tm_T1009.22 -!- Irssi: Starting query in freenode with ubuntu__08:12
Tm_T1009.22 <ubuntu__> come on join irc undernet08:12
Tm_T1009.28 <ubuntu__> ull get a ban08:12
Flannelodd08:16
Tm_Twhat is?08:17
FlannelThat.08:17
FlannelDid you ban him?08:17
Tm_TI did08:17
elkbuntuthe whole tone is bemusing to say the least.08:17
FlannelThat's nice of him.  He's nice enouh to return the favor.08:17
Tm_Tindeed (:08:17
Tm_TMyrtti: ouch!08:23
MyrttiTm_T: I know.08:23
jussi01_Grrr09:04
ikoniawhat is the growl for09:09
elkbuntuhe's using australian internet. he's used to finnish internet. that'd be enough to make me growl09:10
jussi01_elkbuntu: very true09:11
jussi01_but not the main reason. when did the other "me's" depart?09:11
jussi01_ikonia: I pm'ed...09:11
Myrtti[08:15] ~~~jussi01 [n=jussi01@ubuntu/member/jussi01] has quit [SendQ exceeded]09:12
Myrtti2008-11-17 11:12:5409:12
jussi01_and neverf came back... :(09:12
jussi01_but yet, ubottu is still here...09:13
jussi01_what about jussio1 ?09:13
ikoniahow od09:13
Myrttisendq is sendq09:13
ikonialooks like a client issue from the senq message09:13
ikoniaugh lag09:14
Myrttijussi01_: that hasn't been online during my lastlog09:14
jussi01_hrm, incredibly weird09:14
jussi01_both of them down at the same time...09:14
jussi01_Im worried09:14
* Gary must not make comments about jussi01 going down on you...09:16
Garyoh, dear, I typed that out aloud didn't I?09:16
* jussi01_ slaps Gary09:16
Garyi'll go back to trolling #defocus shall I?09:17
jussi01_Gary: yeap :D09:18
Myrtticheeky bastards, the lot of you09:19
jussi01_wgrant: ping09:41
wgrantjussi01_: Hi.10:11
ikonia@btlogin10:11
wgrant(apologies for lag, studying for Linear Algebra exam)10:11
ikoniawow10:12
jussi01_wgrant: do you have any time tomorrow morning for a coffee?10:12
wgrantjussio1, jussi01_, whoever you are now: I've an exam from 0915-1230, so no...10:13
elkbuntujussi01_, come to sydney and i'll chuck a sickie :P10:14
jussi01_elkbuntu: how about a place to stay? :D10:17
jussi01_:P10:17
elkbuntuum... you possibly would have to clear somewhere to do so... i practice the exact opposite of housekeeping10:18
jussi01_nah, seriously, know of any cheap decent hostels?10:18
elkbuntui've got no clue about that stuff, but there's a hotel a block from me that does $85/night rooms. hardly cheap.10:19
ikoniathe gutter ?10:19
Myrttiooh.10:20
Myrtti64-bit flash.10:20
ikoniawhere ?10:20
ikonianot ehard anything on that10:20
ikonianot heard10:20
Myrttihttp://blogs.adobe.com/penguin.swf/2008/11/now_supporting_16_exabytes.html10:20
Myrttiit... works.10:21
Myrtti;___;10:21
ikoniainteresting10:21
jussi01_wgrant: post exam coffee?10:21
ikoniaMyrtti:  an ammusing blog post also10:22
elky_e71heh, i know what im missing still... Games!10:24
wgrantjussi01_: Sure.10:24
Myrttielky_e71: frozen bubble10:25
Myrttihttp://fb-s60.sourceforge.net/10:25
elky_e71what cool games are there for this thing?10:25
elky_e71ooh10:25
jussi01_wgrant: ok, Im driving through sometime, where is the best place to meet you?10:26
wgrantWell, my exam is right near the CBD (in the Royal Exhibition Building), so I don't quite know...10:27
wgrantThat can't be good.10:29
wgrantjussi01_: Did you see my response?10:32
jussi01_wgrant: no. :(10:33
wgrant21:27:55 < wgrant> Well, my exam is right near the CBD (in the Royal Exhibition Building), so I don't quite know...10:33
jussi01_wgrant: ok, Well as I said Im driving, so anywhere works for me, how about southbank somewhere?10:34
elkbuntuyou remember how to drive australian style? :P10:35
wgrantjussi01_: Sure. Easy to get to. I don't know the contents of southbank well.10:35
jussi01_elkbuntu: lol10:36
ikoniaelkbuntu: isn't it just never lift of throttle10:36
jussi01_wgrant: nor do I, but Ill park somewhere around crown...10:36
jussi01_ikonia: with the new draconian laws, its never put your foot down...10:37
wgrantjussi01_: Where shall we meet?10:37
elkbuntuikonia, you'd think so, in sydney10:38
wgrantThe solution to that is to avoid NSW.10:39
wgrantAlthough that's not foolproof.10:39
elkbuntuMyrtti, there's no widescreen version of the frozen bubble :(10:40
Myrttiawwww :-(10:40
jussi01_sigh...10:40
wgrantjussi01_: Why's it so bad?10:41
jussi01_wgrant: my connection?10:41
* elkbuntu tries the teensy resolution of it, to see if it all fits on the screen10:41
wgrantjussi01_: Yes.10:42
elkbuntuwgrant, because it's australian internet, of course.10:42
jussi01_because its my parents place....10:42
wgrantHeh.10:43
* Myrtti huggles jussi01_ 10:43
wgrantFun fun.10:43
elkbuntuMyrtti, the teensy one fits and works, but is teensy10:50
elkbuntuhopefully they make a widescreen version10:50
elkbuntui mean, one that fits properly, even if it has wasted space10:50
* elkbuntu huggles jussi01_10:54
wgrantVery successful.10:55
wgrantThat is the worst Australian Internet connection I've seen for a while...10:55
elkbuntuwgrant, internode have been flaking all over the place lately10:55
elkbuntusomeone find me an s60 version of tuxracer kthxbai10:57
jussi01_ahh, finally11:07
elkbuntuhai.11:09
jussi01_wow, it seems to be sticking around... for now...11:16
wgrantYep...11:16
elkbuntudont jinx yourself, kiddo11:17
* wgrant heads over with some wirecutters.11:18
* jussi01_ goes outside with the shotty...11:19
bazhanghaha11:20
wgrantNoo.11:21
ikoniaopening +1 was a mistake 11:29
wgrantOh, already!?11:29
bazhangyep11:29
bazhangwhen is the alpha!!!!???11:29
wgrantikonia: Jaunty exists... 9.04 does not.11:30
ikoniait doesn't really11:30
ikoniait's based on 8.1011:30
ikoniaI dragged it out of the repos the other night11:30
wgrantAs Jaunty final will be.11:30
ikoniaexactly11:30
wgrantikonia: Jaunty exists.11:31
ikoniadifferes as in core componet from 8.10 ?11:32
wgrantAbout 2000 new versions of packages, with a new glibc, new lots of other stuff...11:33
ikoniaahh so glibc has been updated11:34
ikoniait didn't appear to have been 11:34
wgrantLinux and glibc do not define the distroseries.11:34
ikoniaof course not, but they are core components11:34
ikoniaseeign as the whole OS is linked into glibc I consider it a core component11:35
wgrantAlpha 1 will be the same. Are you saying that Jaunty Alpha 1 is Intrepid?11:35
ikoniano, not at all11:35
MyrttiCAKE IS A LIE11:36
wgrantMyrtti: I beg to differ, so I'll take your cake. Om nom nom.11:37
ikoniawgrant: I am now curious though, has the glibc version been decided for 9.04 or is the current version a place holder ? I would have thought all that discusison would have been finalised at UDS11:39
wgrantikonia: Toolchain stuff is usually largely decided at the previous UDS.11:39
wgrantBecause the toolchain needs to be finished and built a few days after the previous release is released.11:40
ikoniaooh really, so your already locked into roughly speaking to the toolchain compoentns for the next release11:40
wgrantBut in the scheme of things, glibc is very minor.11:40
wgrantEven gcc isn't that huge, and we have no major new gcc this release.11:40
ikoniawgrant: so what about the libc headers, surly you can't decided them now due to the unknown of say - 3 months down the line11:42
ikonia(3 months just an example)11:42
ikoniaactually I assume this could be discussed in -devel 11:42
Myrttichoo11:43
bazhanghehe11:43
wgrantI believe that the general plan is decided at UDS by the toolchain guys. Specifics are worked out later as toolchain component release schedules get more concrete.11:43
bazhang a (n=a@86.46.98.12) has joined #ubuntu  <--wonder if that is the same 'a' from yesterday12:03
bazhang@bansearch a12:05
ubottuNo matches found for a!n=a@86.46.98.12 in any channel12:05
bazhangthat was tdeath again12:14
bazhang[tdeath] (i=tdeath@powerprecision.com): Unknown   [MOELESTER] (i=tdeath@111.45.233.72.static.reverse.ltdomains.com): Unknown12:16
Myrttiyup12:16
bazhangso a /cs b by ident?12:17
bazhangwow a 3rd time12:18
ikoniaoh niglet was tdeath too12:18
bazhangdinner time12:18
elky_e71Irc in bed, lawl 12:19
ikonianice12:20
elky_e71anyway, nini12:26
* Pici conciders a !crosspost factoid13:27
* Pici considers breakfast first though13:28
ikoniaha ha13:29
bazhanghehe13:39
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bazhang* [Guest4468] (n=vincent@cc846502-a.ensch1.ov.home.nl): Vincent van Bruchem14:00
ikoniais he known ?14:03
bazhangaka vincent_, Vinny, and one other I forget. seems to ask really chatty questions/offtopic14:04
bazhang#bansearch seekingtruth14:05
bazhangoops14:05
bazhang@bansearch seekingtruth14:06
ubottuNo matches found for seekingtruth!*@* in any channel14:06
LjLbazhang: that nickname is known to me14:07
LjLi don't remember how bad, though (i rarely do)14:08
bazhangtony_ is seekingtruth ('hello sinners')14:08
bazhangLjL, saw another 'a' in #ubuntu earlier today14:08
bazhang [a] (n=a@86.46.98.12): a14:08
LjLbazhang: the same "a" came back yesterday and trolled me a little14:09
LjLpossibly him, ip looks similar from what i remember14:09
bazhangLjL, though not sure if the one from today was the same one from the last two days14:09
bazhangthough he did talk much the same way14:09
LjLbazhang: i see only three messages from him, is that right?14:13
bazhangLjL, that seems correct14:13
ikoniasorry ljl14:23
ikoniadidn't mean to step on toes14:23
LjLnp, although that might be accidental14:23
ikoniamaybe, didn't appear so 14:24
ikoniadoesn't respond to a pm 14:25
bazhang!crosspost15:37
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about crosspost15:37
bazhanghmm15:37
PiciI didn't add it.15:38
bazhangthat would have been handy in +1 a few minutes ago15:38
bazhangPici, just testing :)15:38
bazhangtrying to draw you from your lair15:39
ikoniaI'd like to see pici-cave15:39
bazhangits a lair15:40
bazhangmost pici-lair15:40
Pici!crosspost is <reply> Please don't ask the same question in multiple Ubuntu channels at the same time. Many helpers are in more than one channel.  Most helpers are in more than one channel and its not fair to them or the other people seeking support.15:45
ubottuI'll remember that, Pici15:45
Picioops15:45
Pici!no crosspost is <reply> Please don't ask the same question in multiple Ubuntu channels at the same time. Many helpers are in more than one channel and its not fair to them or the other people seeking support.15:46
ubottuI'll remember that Pici15:46
PiciHow does that sound?15:46
bazhanggood15:46
bazhangit's 15:46
Pici!crosspost =~ s/its/it's/15:47
ubottuI'll remember that Pici15:47
* Pici shuts his mouth on stuff he doesnt know about16:05
LjjjLPici, thing is that compilers generally generate an assembly file and then just call the assembler, very few of them just directly compile to machine code16:08
ubottuIn ubottu, erUSUL said: runlevels is <reply>In ubuntu/debian all runlevels except 0,1 and 6 are by default equal. Also keep in mind that ubuntu now uses !upstart instead of System V init so there is no /etc/inittab.16:11
LjjjL!runlevels16:11
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about runlevels16:11
ikonia!init16:11
ubottuBoot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto16:11
LjjjL!runlevels is <reply> In Ubuntu all runlevels except 0,1 and 6 are by default equal. Also keep in mind that Ubuntu now uses !Upstart instead of System V init so there is normally no /etc/inittab.16:12
Pici!bootoptions16:12
ubottuIn #ubuntu-ops, LjjjL said: !runlevels is <reply> In Ubuntu all runlevels except 0,1 and 6 are by default equal. Also keep in mind that Ubuntu now uses !Upstart instead of System V init so there is normally no /etc/inittab.16:12
ubottuFor a list and explanation on some of the boot options, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions16:12
Picihrm.16:12
LjjjLplease, add that. several people are indeed confused about it16:12
Pici!runlevels is <reply> In Ubuntu all runlevels except 0,1 and 6 are by default equal. Also keep in mind that Ubuntu now uses !Upstart instead of System V init so there is normally no /etc/inittab.16:12
ubottuI'll remember that, Pici16:12
LjjjLi added "normally" because there can be an inittab, and it's partly respected16:13
LjjjL(very partly... only the default runlevel is looked at)16:13
Piciindoobitily.16:13
erUSULok; thanks16:13
bazhangmiddle clicking with epiphany does not open in new tab?16:16
LjjjLbazhang: yes but that's a bit impractical on the eeepc16:17
bazhangLjjjL, oho16:17
PiciNo middle mouse button?16:17
LjjjLPici: no mouse...16:18
bazhangctrl +t as well I suppose16:18
Myrttictrl-c16:18
PiciLjjjL: My Thinkpad has a middle mouse/touchpad button16:18
MyrttiPici: ...16:18
MyrttiPici: NEWSFLASH! eeePC != Thinkpad16:19
PiciMyrtti: NEWSFLASH! I don't have an eeePC16:19
bazhangwat??16:19
* bazhang has both16:19
LjjjLPici: need to either click both buttons at a time (clumsy as hell), or using the elantech driver, tap with two fingers (less clumsy but can be mistaken for a scroll action)16:19
Myrttineither do I... but it's kinda obvious not all laptops are the same16:19
MyrttiI need painkillers16:20
bazhangMyrtti, why?16:20
LjjjLoverly hot coffee?16:20
PiciI'm guessing back pain.16:21
bazhangoh.16:21
PiciI'm not allowed to have caffeine for at least a week ;(16:21
LjjjLi think i hate touchpads anyway16:21
LjjjLgrrr to microsoft for stopping the eeepc from having a touchscreen16:21
PiciDo you prefer the mousing nipple?16:21
bazhangnever used it16:22
LjjjLPici: not really... i prefer a mouse, i guess16:22
LjjjLor a touchscreen on a device like this16:22
LjjjLor aanyway maybe it's just this touchpad or its driver... but i just can't make fine motions16:23
Myrttiit's really annoying, usually my right side is more sore, but now my left hip feels bad and I can't feel comfortable in any position I'm in16:41
Myrttis/feel/be/16:41
bazhangperhaps a chiropractor or acupuncturist could help16:42
Picior drugs16:42
* erUSUL quits to reboot to 2.6.28-rc5... ciao16:43
MyrttiI'd have to go and complain about my back again to the doctors... I probably need a MRI taken16:48
ubottuSlart called the ops in #ubuntu (faria_-)18:12
MezMyrtti: lol - I just found those CDs I bought when we went shopping on the Sunday - forgot I'd bought them19:06
Myrttiwhee!19:11
Myrttiand it was Monday anyway19:17
Myrttitramp is full of emacs goodness ♥ 19:18
MyrttiI'm doing a mobile start page...19:19
Myrtti*sigh*19:19
MezMyrtti: oh yeah it was monday. *chuckles* I only found them cause I was looking for a signed CD I had hidden away (and it turns out one of the receptionists at work used to go out with the drummer from that band!)19:20
PriceChild Mez don't you work at vB?19:20
ikoniaI hope he still does, I want discount !19:20
MezPriceChild: Not anymore.19:21
Myrttihasn't in ages19:21
* ikonia is out of loop19:21
PriceChildI was gonna say.. "one of the receptionists"19:21
MyrttiI need painkillers, more painkillers, lots painkillers.19:21
MyrttiI didn't get any painkillers.19:21
Pici:(19:21
Myrttiwould it be better if I lied on my back my legs on the bed?19:21
MyrttiI guess it would.19:21
Myrttimoin genii19:22
* Mez throws Myrtti a pack of tramadol19:22
geniiMyrtti: Moin :)19:22
Myrttiow.19:22
jdongMyrtti: ugh I feel your pain, been through similar points in my medical history too.19:22
jdongall I can say is you'll feel miserable in every position...19:22
ikonia<snip>19:23
geniiAnd good afternoon, evening, or morning to others,depending upon your timezones...19:23
ikoniahey genii 19:23
geniiikonia: Hiya19:23
MyrttiI want a bounty bar. damnit.19:27
geniiAre those the ones with lots of cocoanut?19:28
ikoniathey are19:28
ikoniado they still do milk and dark chocolate versions ?19:28
PriceChildfavourite line from the boosh, while eating coconuts, vince: "mmm tastes like bounty"19:28
ikoniaha ha19:29
ikoniaI'm only just finding mighty boosh - so give me a chance to get to know it19:29
PriceChildikonia: you'll have no time when it comes to the crunch19:38
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ikonia?19:39
ikoniathe crunch ?19:40
PriceChildDon't talk to me about the crunch.19:40
ikonia????19:40
PriceChildYou know nothing of the crunch.19:40
ikoniahave I lagged and missed something19:40
ikoniano19:40
ikoniaI'm only on epsidoe 219:41
ikoniaepisode 219:41
ikoniahave I missed something important19:41
* Myrtti kicks Ryanair.com19:59
Myrttiwork you stupid POS19:59
* genii thinks about linux Point 0f Sale terminals20:00
Myrttiwhy is it so difficult to make decent, working websites20:01
MezMyrtti: it's not - there are just crappily educated web developers out there20:10
Myrttihate hate hate hate hate hate hate ryanair20:22
PiciWhat an ugly website20:23
* Mez has a doppleganger20:25
Myrttiit's SLOW and it's HORRIBLE and it's UGLY and it needs to be killed.20:27
Mezmy doppleganger?20:29
PiciSure, why not?20:29
MezI *could* kill it :P20:29
Mez/ns ghost mez_ 20:29
Myrttido /lastlog r4mb0x 20:30
Myrttiat ubuntu20:30
Myrtti(11:04:47 PM) Myrtti: eniro.fi has search that allows to search from yellow pages, maps etc21:06
Myrtti(11:05:11 PM) Myrtti: if you want to search from white pages, you need a passnumber and your phone number as a username21:06
Myrtti(11:06:23 PM) Myrtti: the mobile search form passes both in GET.21:07
* Myrtti facepalms21:07
Myrttipleia2: commencing count down21:14
* pleia2 nods21:14
Myrtti23:14] <heret|c> 16:11 < Camarade_Tux> lol, I did not leave #ubuntu-women21:15
Myrtti[23:14] <heret|c> 16:11 < Camarade_Tux> * Myrtti rolls her eyes21:15
Myrtti[23:14] <heret|c> 16:11 < Camarade_Tux> <Myrtti> this isn't the channel you were 21:15
Myrtti                  looking for.  Move along, MOVE ALONG.21:15
Myrtti[23:14] <heret|c> 16:11 < Camarade_Tux> I had to refrain from typing 's/eyes/tongue' :D21:15
Myrtti[23:15] <Myrtti> so you had to come to the channel and be the idiot he didn't want to 21:15
Myrtti                 be?21:15
Myrtti[23:15] <heret|c> so i thought i'd pick on em. like a online way of putting someone's 21:15
Myrtti                  foot in their mouth for them21:15
Myrtti[23:15] <heret|c> good times :)21:16
Myrtti[23:15] <Myrtti> no offence, but that's what it looks like21:16
Myrtti[23:16] <Myrtti> good times?21:16
Myrttilike21:16
MyrttiOMGLOL.21:16
Myrttiwhat planet have I landed to21:16
Myrttiehh21:17
Myrttihe put me on ignore21:17
pleia2ugh, there are like, herds of them today21:18
Myrttihttp://paste.ubuntu.com/73493/21:19
Myrttipleia2: mind if I kick Camarade?21:19
pleia2go for it21:19
* PriceChild takes a look21:20
* mneptok bursts into flames21:27
mneptokI ARRIVE, UNCLAD AND WITH THE SLENDOR OF DAWN!21:28
mneptok"splendor," too.21:28
PriceChildnot slender?21:28
geniiSplenda?21:28
* mneptok hates it when poor typing skills ruin nude entrances21:28
PriceChildNot interested then.21:28
MyrttiI'm in a foul mood. make him go away.21:32
Myrttiphew.21:32
* ikonia steps back21:32
Myrttithere is only one sustainable resource in the universe.21:33
MyrttiHUMAN STUPIDITY.21:33
* mneptok 's warming rays envelope Myrtti in a comforting glow of pure, unadulterated fury21:33
Myrttisomeday I'll buy a nice good Finnish pesäpallo bat. And gather a group of friends, armed with their Louisville Sluggers and golf clubs and hockey sticks. And go for a vendetta against the human stupidity. The battle will be lost, but the cause will be noble.21:41
ikonia@bansearch tdawgedogg21:44
ubottuNo matches found for tdawgedogg!n=tyler@146.187.186.22 in any channel21:44
Myrtti"kraptronnik: here for the show? would you like to have some soda? hot dogs? pop corn?" almost tempted to ask...21:47
mneptokMyrtti: THEY CAN TAKE OUR HOMES! THEY CAN TAKE OUR CROPS! BUT THEY WILL NEVER TAKE OUR ADVANCED UNIVERSITY DEGREEEEEEEEEES! </mel gibson>21:48
Myrttihttp://paste.ubuntu.com/73500/21:48
mneptok*cuh-lick*21:48
Myrttioh look21:49
MyrttiI've got ubuntu release day emp cannon21:49
ikoniaflash64 is causing pain amongst the blind adoptors21:51
* Myrtti facepalms21:51
Myrttiwell, I *did21:52
Myrtti* warn them21:52
mneptokyes, yes you did.21:57
mneptokthat's a very clean and sparkly conscience you're sporting. :)21:57
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nickrudlol ljl, redirects to the police?22:54
LjLnickrud: yes, the pirate bay is blocked in italy, pending investigation22:55
ikoniaquick thinking22:55
nickrudwow22:55
ikonianickrud: good few places doing that now22:55
LjLikonia, i beg to differ though on the not being up for discussing. he mentioned two sites he can't access, and which he can access in windows, i think that's up to discussion...22:56
nickrudgood few? Just a few good places, or it's good only a few places?22:56
LjLhe didn't say what he's connecting to that site for, and i didn't ask22:56
ikoniaa fair few22:56
nickrudah, that colloquialism I know ;)22:57
ikoniaI'll do better next time22:57
nickrud:P22:57
MyrttiL-G: hello, can we help you?22:58
L-G:) no its ok for me im here to see if there is problems then i can help with to..23:03
ikoniaL-G: support problems are in #ubuntu23:03
L-Gtrue23:04
PiciL-G: You're being forwarded here because you were asked to disable a script in #ubuntu, did you do so?23:04
ikoniaL-G: I see you have been running script and bots23:04
ikoniaahhh Pici your quicker23:05
L-Gyes im have me one irc net and have alot of scrips running.23:05
ikoniaPici: where do you see the forward, I just see the kick23:05
Pici@bansearch L-G 23:05
ubottuMatch: *!*@217-208-139-161-no14.tbcn.telia.com!#ubuntu-ops by elkbuntu in #ubuntu on Nov 16 2008 10:55:51 (ID: 6829)23:05
ikoniaIP not nick23:06
PiciYes, but that IP matches up with L-G here.23:06
PiciAnd it does in my logs as well.23:06
ikoniaI see that, I just searched on nick - sloppy23:06
MyrttiL-G: we don't actually need any scripts/bots on #ubuntu in addition to our own23:07
Pici!give ikonia a test23:07
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)23:07
* L-G gives ikonia a bale of hay23:07
MyrttiL-G: have you disabled all your scripts and bots?23:10
Myrttiatleast in #ubuntu and related channels?23:10
L-G[SERV] #ubuntu #ubuntu-ops :Forwarding to another channel23:11
nickruddoncha just love responsive answers23:11
L-Gi try to rejoin #ubuntu23:11
L-Gim be direktly forward by the irc server to -ops23:12
mneptokTHE SCRIPTS! DID YOU DISABLE THEM?23:12
ikonia!give pici a test23:12
* L-G gives pici Bill Clinton23:12
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)23:12
ikoniadamn scripts are still running23:12
mneptokthat would be a no23:12
PiciL-G: I said that earlier.23:13
Pici18:04:50 <Pici> L-G: You're being forwarded here because you were asked to disable a script in #ubuntu, did you do so?23:13
nickrudL-G, to be explicit, unless you turn off all scripts while you're in #ubuntu you will never get back in23:13
mneptokwhat ain't no country i ever heard of.23:13
LjLwhat the hell23:13
Picimneptok: :d23:13
Picier, :D23:13
LjLikonia: spring cleanings time yay!23:13
* mneptok doffs his full-head latex Sam Jackson mask23:14
L-Ghmm i have alot of scripts i cant disable al of them.23:14
mneptokthen you live on the doorstep. please drive through.23:14
LjLL-G: you only need to disable those that can result in unwanted messages or notices being sent to #ubuntu23:14
MyrttiL-G: har du disablerat dina script och sånt? vi behöver inte dom i våra kanaler23:14
L-Ghmm ok, then i have to try to remove in the chan.23:15
LjLi think almost all of us here live with virtually no scripts, by the way.23:15
LjLwe mostly survived, as of now.23:15
Myrttiehhehheh.23:18
PiciWhat if I want a lemon though?23:24
ikoniayou can't have one23:25
Pici:(23:25
ikoniayou got a bill clinton - be thankful23:25
PiciI can't make lemonade from him.23:25
ikonia!give pici a john mcain23:25
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)23:25
PiciOkay, okay, beggars can't be choosers.23:25
ikoniaha ha23:25
LjLGRRRR23:27
LjLlaunchpad can't hang up konqueror, seriously23:27
LjLevery time i try to look up a bug it takes an era and a half, on the very system that launchpad was created for23:28
mneptokyou stole Mark's laptop?23:31
LjLmneptok: i call that an indefinite duration lend23:34
ikoniacan someone boot in offtopic please23:41
ikoniaand gibbathe hut23:42
ikoniagibbathehut23:42
mneptokikonia: that user is not in -offtopic23:43
ikonialjl got him23:44
ikoniathey are all over freenode23:44
ikonialittle scamps23:44
ikonia##linux, #perl, ##php, #mysql etc23:44
ikoniamay give the ops in ##linux-ops a heads up23:44
LjLi've done that with the gentoo ones, just now23:45
LjLsince that fellow in -ot is in there23:45
LjL(and using a shell, too)23:45
ikoniajust told ##linux-ops23:46
ikoniainteresting they don't respond in all the channels23:47

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