[00:05] <PriceChild> btw, incase anyone wants to help commiecary, jdong reccomends upgrading to ext4: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=973701
[00:06]  * LjL takes note: never upgrade to ext4
[00:07] <PriceChild> (he doesn't actually, but that's what he says about the upgrade)
[02:01] <bazhang> wow.
[02:01] <Pici> What a pleasant fellow.
[02:08] <jrib> at least I don't feel so bad about kicking him now
[02:12] <jdong> PriceChild: so far I haven't lost any data :D
[02:12] <jdong> *knock on wood*
[02:13] <jrib> jdong: real men don't have backups
[02:14] <jdong> :)
 fernandesfer, install wine and then install internet explorer, then u should be able to access hotmail with no problems <--as opposed to using ff3?
[02:16] <bazhang> he seems to be giving some odd advice imo
[02:17] <jdong> haha
[02:17] <jdong> I'd try faking user-agent first ;-)
[02:17] <jdong> but I wouldn't be surprised if that doesn't work
[02:18] <jdong> MS has been clamping down on Hotmail access
[02:18] <Pici> Indeed. I've seen a few reports (not only in irc) of Hotmail not allowing Linux users to check their mail.
[02:18] <jdong> yeah and I've seen seom comments that it's not as simple as user-agent faking anymore
[02:19] <jdong> they literally did something to the site to render it incompatible with non-IE browsers.
[02:19] <jrib> wow
[02:20] <jrib> guys, what can we do about these users trying linux?  Hmm..  Let's alienate them!
[02:21] <jrib> that was a lot of victims :/
[02:35] <nickrud> dang Pici you take all the fun out of #ubuntu ;(
[02:40] <nickrud> it's not even thanksgiving and I've just seen my first christmas commercial. 
[02:41] <lakeoftea> where do i find new firmware for WRT54GS V7.2 ???
[02:42] <nickrud> lakeoftea, #ubuntu is the support channel
[02:42] <bazhang> lakeoftea, this is not a support channel
[02:43] <lakeoftea> i was just wondering bc it keeps telling me my router is buggy with DCC exploit 
[02:45] <jdong> can the IDS feature not be turned off on the WRT54GS?
[02:45] <lakeoftea> what is ids? im so confused
[02:45] <lakeoftea> not really, just a little
[02:45] <vorian> what's up guys
[02:45] <jdong> the "Intrusion Detection System" that is causing your router to react to the DCC exploit
[02:45] <jdong> it should be a setting in the web configuration UI
[02:46] <jdong> at least I hope such a stupid feature can be disabled.... :-/
[02:47] <lakeoftea> is it that bad really?
[02:49] <jdong> yes.
[02:49] <lakeoftea> is it ident on port 113?
[02:49] <jdong> it looks for a particular string that starts with DCC and disconnects any connection that contains such data in the stream.
[02:51] <lakeoftea> so do i want to make sure dcc traffic can go through?  or no ???
[02:51] <jdong> no, I wouldn't care too much about it. Just connect to IRC on port 8001 as described in the guide.
[02:51] <jdong> most routers with this bug actually do NOT have a firmware that fixes it
[02:52] <jdong> the vendor simply doesn't think it's a problem
[02:52] <lakeoftea> apparently its preventing me from getting into #ubuntu :(
[02:53] <jdong> please follow the instructions in the redirected channel to reconnect on port 8001
[02:53] <lakeoftea> k so i wanna give mirc a port?
[02:53] <jdong> correct.
[02:53] <lakeoftea> nice i can do that
[02:53] <lakeoftea> i was about to flash with openwrt happy i didnt have to go there
[02:54] <lakeoftea> :)
[02:54] <jdong> now I wouldn't want to discourage you from doing that!
[02:54] <lakeoftea> i actually do want to do that but i need to read a book or something on it 1st
[02:54] <jdong> I'd personally recommend DD-WRT, but that's just preference.
[02:57] <lakeoftea> it says i should open 1024-5000 for mirc do you think thats really necessary?
[02:57] <lakeoftea> so many ports
[02:57] <jdong> whoa, no way.
[02:57] <lakeoftea> k good
[02:57] <jdong> you just have to tell mirc that irc.freenode.com is on port 8001
[02:58] <jdong> instead of port 6667
[02:58] <jdong> you don't need to actually open any ports on the router
[02:58] <lakeoftea> ohhhh i see
[02:58] <lakeoftea> thats nice
[02:58] <jdong> your router's "super security feature" only pays attention to port 6667 :)
[02:58] <jdong> makes you feel nice and cozy, huh? :)
[02:58] <lakeoftea> yes feel much better
[02:59] <lakeoftea> k brb
[02:59] <vorian> nice work jdong 
[03:00] <vorian> can you start from the beginning please?
[03:02] <jdong> that's what she said?
[03:04] <lakeoftea> thx jdong working good now
[03:05] <jdong> cool :)
[03:07] <vorian> lakeoftea: i don't think i'm gonna do that :)
[03:07] <vorian> (ident)
[03:07] <vorian> maybe you'll get lucky somewhere else though
[04:37] <Flannel> er
[04:37] <Flannel> -ot ops?
[04:37] <Flannel> histo spamming
[04:38] <tritium> Flannel: need him gone?
[04:38] <Flannel> mm, he's apologising
[04:38] <tritium> ok
[04:38] <Flannel> Not sure how ascii spam is wrong window,
[04:39] <tritium> I missed it.
[05:10] <Flannel> Theres... something
[05:10] <Flannel> I just am not sure what.
[05:11] <Flannel> Ah, found it
[05:11] <Flannel> tony_ is that hello sinners guy.  And he's giving out bum information.
[05:11] <Flannel> tritium
[05:12] <tritium> Flannel: "hello sinners" guy?
[05:12] <Flannel> tritium: yeah
[05:12] <Flannel> tritium: Thats how (s)he greets the channel when joining
[05:12] <tritium> I've not encountered him before.
[05:12] <tritium> ah
[05:13] <Flannel> Really?  interesting
[05:14] <tritium> I don't remember, at any rate.
[05:15] <Gnea> okay, sorry if you seem a bit miffed there tritium, but this tony_ guy is giving misleading information to users who have genuine issues
[05:16] <Gnea> would you like me to copy and paste some lines?
[05:17] <tritium> Not necessary, Gnea.
[05:17] <Gnea> Then what is necessary?
[05:17] <Flannel> Gnea: We'll keep an eye on him, and have read the backlogs.
[05:18] <Gnea> Okay.
[05:21] <Gnea> I just get really irritated when someone comes along like that and starts to make trouble. I'm sorry if my frustration has rubbed off onto anyone else.
[06:42] <Myrtti> excuse me, but wth am I doing awake
[06:43] <Tm_T> hugging me and listening oifm.fi
[06:51] <elkbuntu> Tm_T, how's bubbeh?
[06:51] <elkbuntu> and wth are you doing on irc?
[06:52] <Tm_T> elkbuntu: I have to go to school today
[06:52] <elkbuntu> :(
[06:52] <Tm_T> but baby is fine, will go there before lectures
[06:53] <elkbuntu> :)
[06:53] <elkbuntu> pics, or it didnt happen :P
[06:54] <Myrtti> I did some benchmarking yesterday.
[06:54] <Tm_T> elkbuntu: as soon as I get those out of that crappy camera
[06:54] <Myrtti> decided to test how long it will take for a certain work related command to run on my work desktop vs. my own laptop
[06:55] <Myrtti> work desktop: real 3m3.316s; user 0m15.209s; sys 0m9.577s
[06:55] <Myrtti> own laptop: real 122m26.896s;user 0m34.910s; sys 0m37.662s
[06:56] <Myrtti> encouraging.
[06:59] <elkbuntu> underclocked laptop?
[07:01] <Myrtti> this must be something about the fstab settings
[07:01] <Myrtti> and my wifi
[07:02] <Myrtti> because now that I do that with local files instead of doing it to files that are nfs, mounted, the command took real0m34.002s on my laptop
[07:02] <Myrtti> probably the sync
[07:04] <ikonia> I assume everyone else got a dcc attack from bintang
[07:04] <ikonia> 216.253.117.112] has joined #Ubuntu
[07:05] <Myrtti> now, or earlier?
[07:05] <ikonia> earlier on
[07:05] <ikonia> I had about 10 users attack me
[07:05] <Myrtti> I got lots of
[07:06] <Tm_T> hmm
[07:06] <ikonia> ahh couple of them got klined
[07:15] <Myrtti> ikonia: sync was a bad idea :-P
[07:15] <Myrtti> (was it you who with I thought about this aloud last night?)
[07:15] <Myrtti> anyway
[07:22] <ikonia> not sure
[07:22] <ikonia> sorry lost connection for a bit then
[07:54] <Mez> how long till asus-tek messages me? (I sent him a message saying no to his FB request - just got this in reply"
[07:54] <Mez> lol hehe okey dude hope to see ya or meet ya soon on irc
[07:54] <Mez> tc bye
[07:54] <Mez> Warm regards Umakant :P :D 
[07:54] <Tm_T>  n=ubuntu@80.77.146.50 0949.10 <ubuntu__> onlu gays use ubuntu
[07:54] <Tm_T> 0949.31 <Tm_T> including you, son?
[07:55] <Myrtti> Mez: wth lol
[07:55] <ikonia> Tm_T: wen was that
[07:55] <ikonia> when
[07:55] <Tm_T> 5 minutes ago
[07:55] <Mez> Tm_T: not really the correct response ...
[07:55] <Mez> Myrtti: you said you blocked him - where's the block button ? :P
[07:55] <Tm_T> Mez: well I wanted to know his idea, wasn't my plan to call him anything
[07:56] <Tm_T> Mez: just asking what exactly he is saying
[07:56] <Mez> Tm_T: still comes across badly
[07:56] <Myrtti> Mez: http://www.facebook.com/privacy/?ref=mb
[07:56] <Mez> ah well...
[07:56] <Tm_T> Mez: I notice yes, should have made better sentence
[07:57] <Tm_T> Mez: unfortunately I'm bit blind for this, my sayings could seem to worse than what I mean
[07:57] <Mez> ah, under "report person"
[07:57] <Mez> Tm_T: *hugs*
[07:57] <Tm_T> indeed
[07:58]  * Mez wonders what "wii" stands for (in irssi /wii instead of whois every time - better info!)
[07:59] <Tm_T> whois whois
[07:59] <Tm_T> kinda
[07:59] <Mez> damn crontabs
[08:00] <Tm_T> WII        whois $0 $0
[08:00] <Myrtti> WHEEEE
[08:00] <Myrtti> lol
[08:00] <Tm_T> so, is it "Who Is Is" kinda then =)
[08:00] <Myrtti> anyway, time to get up from the bed and make coffee
[08:00] <Tm_T> Myrtti: baby said his first words already
[08:01] <Myrtti> awwwwww
[08:01] <Tm_T> "ennääääää" or so
[08:01] <Tm_T> or so it sounds when she cries =)
[08:01] <Tm_T> s/his/her/
[08:02] <Mez> Myrtti: conversly, for me - sleeping tablet time ;)
[08:02] <Myrtti> Mez: good luck with that
[08:02] <Mez> huh?
[08:02] <Myrtti> sleeping meds >__<
[08:02] <elkbuntu> hold on... 'baby said his first words' 'or so it sounds when she cries' ... which is it?
[08:03] <Mez> yeah, I need them of late... cant sleep... 
[08:03] <Mez> and sleeping in the day isn't much fun either :(
[08:03] <Myrtti> elkbuntu: [10:01] <+Tm_T> s/his/her/
[08:03] <elkbuntu> ah
[08:03] <elkbuntu> i missed that line, sorry
[08:03] <Mez> cross your fingers I get the job of running the network for the first school in the UK to switch to linux (ltsp ftw!)
[08:04] <ikonia> Mez: the first school ?
[08:04] <ikonia> I've done 3 or 4 thorugh research machines
[08:04] <ikonia> through even
[08:05] <Mez> ikonia: the first school in the UK to switch to linux...
[08:05]  * Myrtti pulls on The Space Invaders shirt and gets going
[08:05] <ikonia> but I've put Linux deployments in 3 or 4 
[08:05] <Myrtti> Mez: the first school to publically announce the switch
[08:05] <ikonia> using as you said ltsp 
[08:05] <Mez> Myrtti: *shrugs*
[08:05] <Myrtti> *shrug*
[08:05] <Mez> ikonia: dunno - but
[08:06] <Mez> 08:11 <+ikonia> using as you said ltsp 
[08:06] <Mez> grr
[08:06] <Mez> http://www.openhgs.org.uk/moin.cgi/LinuxProject
[08:06] <ikonia> there is one in Birmingham, one in Swindgon (I think it's swindon) and one somewhere in scotland that I'm aware of
[08:06] <Mez> skegness ?
[08:07]  * Mez cant find the info on the swindon one... but meh http://schoolforge.org.uk/index.php/Case_Studies = FLOSS in schools
[08:07] <ikonia> thats not scotland
[08:07]  * Mez doesnt know
[08:07] <Mez> lol
[08:07] <ikonia> ah
[08:07]  * Mez just knows handsworth grammar
[08:07] <ikonia> I'm sure I could mail an old collegue if your interested in the names of the schools
[08:08] <Mez> feel free, you have my email to drop me a line ;)
[08:08] <ikonia> ok
[08:08] <Mez> anyways - bedtime
[08:08] <ikonia> I'll mail him when I get in the office
[08:08] <ikonia> bed time ??? it's 8:0 am 
[08:08] <Tm_T> #k has some lovely friends today
[08:10] <Myrtti> oh my god
[08:10] <Myrtti> today's xkcd made my eyes wet
[08:11] <ikonia> trains in the satation, laters
[08:12] <Tm_T> awww
[08:12] <Tm_T> 1009.22 -!- Irssi: Starting query in freenode with ubuntu__
[08:12] <Tm_T> 1009.22 <ubuntu__> come on join irc undernet
[08:12] <Tm_T> 1009.28 <ubuntu__> ull get a ban
[08:16] <Flannel> odd
[08:17] <Tm_T> what is?
[08:17] <Flannel> That.
[08:17] <Flannel> Did you ban him?
[08:17] <Tm_T> I did
[08:17] <elkbuntu> the whole tone is bemusing to say the least.
[08:17] <Flannel> That's nice of him.  He's nice enouh to return the favor.
[08:17] <Tm_T> indeed (:
[08:23] <Tm_T> Myrtti: ouch!
[08:23] <Myrtti> Tm_T: I know.
[09:04] <jussi01_> Grrr
[09:09] <ikonia> what is the growl for
[09:10] <elkbuntu> he's using australian internet. he's used to finnish internet. that'd be enough to make me growl
[09:11] <jussi01_> elkbuntu: very true
[09:11] <jussi01_> but not the main reason. when did the other "me's" depart?
[09:11] <jussi01_> ikonia: I pm'ed...
[09:12] <Myrtti> [08:15] ~~~jussi01 [n=jussi01@ubuntu/member/jussi01] has quit [SendQ exceeded]
[09:12] <Myrtti> 2008-11-17 11:12:54
[09:12] <jussi01_> and neverf came back... :(
[09:13] <jussi01_> but yet, ubottu is still here...
[09:13] <jussi01_> what about jussio1 ?
[09:13] <ikonia> how od
[09:13] <Myrtti> sendq is sendq
[09:13] <ikonia> looks like a client issue from the senq message
[09:14] <ikonia> ugh lag
[09:14] <Myrtti> jussi01_: that hasn't been online during my lastlog
[09:14] <jussi01_> hrm, incredibly weird
[09:14] <jussi01_> both of them down at the same time...
[09:14] <jussi01_> Im worried
[09:16]  * Gary must not make comments about jussi01 going down on you...
[09:16] <Gary> oh, dear, I typed that out aloud didn't I?
[09:16]  * jussi01_ slaps Gary
[09:17] <Gary> i'll go back to trolling #defocus shall I?
[09:18] <jussi01_> Gary: yeap :D
[09:19] <Myrtti> cheeky bastards, the lot of you
[09:41] <jussi01_> wgrant: ping
[10:11] <wgrant> jussi01_: Hi.
[10:11] <ikonia> @btlogin
[10:11] <wgrant> (apologies for lag, studying for Linear Algebra exam)
[10:12] <ikonia> wow
[10:12] <jussi01_> wgrant: do you have any time tomorrow morning for a coffee?
[10:13] <wgrant> jussio1, jussi01_, whoever you are now: I've an exam from 0915-1230, so no...
[10:14] <elkbuntu> jussi01_, come to sydney and i'll chuck a sickie :P
[10:17] <jussi01_> elkbuntu: how about a place to stay? :D
[10:17] <jussi01_> :P
[10:18] <elkbuntu> um... you possibly would have to clear somewhere to do so... i practice the exact opposite of housekeeping
[10:18] <jussi01_> nah, seriously, know of any cheap decent hostels?
[10:19] <elkbuntu> i've got no clue about that stuff, but there's a hotel a block from me that does $85/night rooms. hardly cheap.
[10:19] <ikonia> the gutter ?
[10:20] <Myrtti> ooh.
[10:20] <Myrtti> 64-bit flash.
[10:20] <ikonia> where ?
[10:20] <ikonia> not ehard anything on that
[10:20] <ikonia> not heard
[10:20] <Myrtti> http://blogs.adobe.com/penguin.swf/2008/11/now_supporting_16_exabytes.html
[10:21] <Myrtti> it... works.
[10:21] <Myrtti> ;___;
[10:21] <ikonia> interesting
[10:21] <jussi01_> wgrant: post exam coffee?
[10:22] <ikonia> Myrtti:  an ammusing blog post also
[10:24] <elky_e71> heh, i know what im missing still... Games!
[10:24] <wgrant> jussi01_: Sure.
[10:25] <Myrtti> elky_e71: frozen bubble
[10:25] <Myrtti> http://fb-s60.sourceforge.net/
[10:25] <elky_e71> what cool games are there for this thing?
[10:25] <elky_e71> ooh
[10:26] <jussi01_> wgrant: ok, Im driving through sometime, where is the best place to meet you?
[10:27] <wgrant> Well, my exam is right near the CBD (in the Royal Exhibition Building), so I don't quite know...
[10:29] <wgrant> That can't be good.
[10:32] <wgrant> jussi01_: Did you see my response?
[10:33] <jussi01_> wgrant: no. :(
[10:33] <wgrant> 21:27:55 < wgrant> Well, my exam is right near the CBD (in the Royal Exhibition Building), so I don't quite know...
[10:34] <jussi01_> wgrant: ok, Well as I said Im driving, so anywhere works for me, how about southbank somewhere?
[10:35] <elkbuntu> you remember how to drive australian style? :P
[10:35] <wgrant> jussi01_: Sure. Easy to get to. I don't know the contents of southbank well.
[10:36] <jussi01_> elkbuntu: lol
[10:36] <ikonia> elkbuntu: isn't it just never lift of throttle
[10:36] <jussi01_> wgrant: nor do I, but Ill park somewhere around crown...
[10:37] <jussi01_> ikonia: with the new draconian laws, its never put your foot down...
[10:37] <wgrant> jussi01_: Where shall we meet?
[10:38] <elkbuntu> ikonia, you'd think so, in sydney
[10:39] <wgrant> The solution to that is to avoid NSW.
[10:39] <wgrant> Although that's not foolproof.
[10:40] <elkbuntu> Myrtti, there's no widescreen version of the frozen bubble :(
[10:40] <Myrtti> awwww :-(
[10:40] <jussi01_> sigh...
[10:41] <wgrant> jussi01_: Why's it so bad?
[10:41] <jussi01_> wgrant: my connection?
[10:41]  * elkbuntu tries the teensy resolution of it, to see if it all fits on the screen
[10:42] <wgrant> jussi01_: Yes.
[10:42] <elkbuntu> wgrant, because it's australian internet, of course.
[10:42] <jussi01_> because its my parents place....
[10:43] <wgrant> Heh.
[10:43]  * Myrtti huggles jussi01_ 
[10:43] <wgrant> Fun fun.
[10:50] <elkbuntu> Myrtti, the teensy one fits and works, but is teensy
[10:50] <elkbuntu> hopefully they make a widescreen version
[10:50] <elkbuntu> i mean, one that fits properly, even if it has wasted space
[10:54]  * elkbuntu huggles jussi01_
[10:55] <wgrant> Very successful.
[10:55] <wgrant> That is the worst Australian Internet connection I've seen for a while...
[10:55] <elkbuntu> wgrant, internode have been flaking all over the place lately
[10:57] <elkbuntu> someone find me an s60 version of tuxracer kthxbai
[11:07] <jussi01_> ahh, finally
[11:09] <elkbuntu> hai.
[11:16] <jussi01_> wow, it seems to be sticking around... for now...
[11:16] <wgrant> Yep...
[11:17] <elkbuntu> dont jinx yourself, kiddo
[11:18]  * wgrant heads over with some wirecutters.
[11:19]  * jussi01_ goes outside with the shotty...
[11:20] <bazhang> haha
[11:21] <wgrant> Noo.
[11:29] <ikonia> opening +1 was a mistake 
[11:29] <wgrant> Oh, already!?
[11:29] <bazhang> yep
[11:29] <bazhang> when is the alpha!!!!???
[11:30] <wgrant> ikonia: Jaunty exists... 9.04 does not.
[11:30] <ikonia> it doesn't really
[11:30] <ikonia> it's based on 8.10
[11:30] <ikonia> I dragged it out of the repos the other night
[11:30] <wgrant> As Jaunty final will be.
[11:30] <ikonia> exactly
[11:31] <wgrant> ikonia: Jaunty exists.
[11:32] <ikonia> differes as in core componet from 8.10 ?
[11:33] <wgrant> About 2000 new versions of packages, with a new glibc, new lots of other stuff...
[11:34] <ikonia> ahh so glibc has been updated
[11:34] <ikonia> it didn't appear to have been 
[11:34] <wgrant> Linux and glibc do not define the distroseries.
[11:34] <ikonia> of course not, but they are core components
[11:35] <ikonia> seeign as the whole OS is linked into glibc I consider it a core component
[11:35] <wgrant> Alpha 1 will be the same. Are you saying that Jaunty Alpha 1 is Intrepid?
[11:35] <ikonia> no, not at all
[11:36] <Myrtti> CAKE IS A LIE
[11:37] <wgrant> Myrtti: I beg to differ, so I'll take your cake. Om nom nom.
[11:39] <ikonia> wgrant: I am now curious though, has the glibc version been decided for 9.04 or is the current version a place holder ? I would have thought all that discusison would have been finalised at UDS
[11:39] <wgrant> ikonia: Toolchain stuff is usually largely decided at the previous UDS.
[11:40] <wgrant> Because the toolchain needs to be finished and built a few days after the previous release is released.
[11:40] <ikonia> ooh really, so your already locked into roughly speaking to the toolchain compoentns for the next release
[11:40] <wgrant> But in the scheme of things, glibc is very minor.
[11:40] <wgrant> Even gcc isn't that huge, and we have no major new gcc this release.
[11:42] <ikonia> wgrant: so what about the libc headers, surly you can't decided them now due to the unknown of say - 3 months down the line
[11:42] <ikonia> (3 months just an example)
[11:42] <ikonia> actually I assume this could be discussed in -devel 
[11:43] <Myrtti> choo
[11:43] <bazhang> hehe
[11:43] <wgrant> I believe that the general plan is decided at UDS by the toolchain guys. Specifics are worked out later as toolchain component release schedules get more concrete.
[12:03] <bazhang>  a (n=a@86.46.98.12) has joined #ubuntu  <--wonder if that is the same 'a' from yesterday
[12:05] <bazhang> @bansearch a
[12:14] <bazhang> that was tdeath again
[12:16] <bazhang> [tdeath] (i=tdeath@powerprecision.com): Unknown   [MOELESTER] (i=tdeath@111.45.233.72.static.reverse.ltdomains.com): Unknown
[12:16] <Myrtti> yup
[12:17] <bazhang> so a /cs b by ident?
[12:18] <bazhang> wow a 3rd time
[12:18] <ikonia> oh niglet was tdeath too
[12:18] <bazhang> dinner time
[12:19] <elky_e71> Irc in bed, lawl 
[12:20] <ikonia> nice
[12:26] <elky_e71> anyway, nini
[13:27]  * Pici conciders a !crosspost factoid
[13:28]  * Pici considers breakfast first though
[13:29] <ikonia> ha ha
[13:39] <bazhang> hehe
[14:00] <bazhang> * [Guest4468] (n=vincent@cc846502-a.ensch1.ov.home.nl): Vincent van Bruchem
[14:03] <ikonia> is he known ?
[14:04] <bazhang> aka vincent_, Vinny, and one other I forget. seems to ask really chatty questions/offtopic
[14:05] <bazhang> #bansearch seekingtruth
[14:05] <bazhang> oops
[14:06] <bazhang> @bansearch seekingtruth
[14:07] <LjL> bazhang: that nickname is known to me
[14:08] <LjL> i don't remember how bad, though (i rarely do)
[14:08] <bazhang> tony_ is seekingtruth ('hello sinners')
[14:08] <bazhang> LjL, saw another 'a' in #ubuntu earlier today
[14:08] <bazhang>  [a] (n=a@86.46.98.12): a
[14:09] <LjL> bazhang: the same "a" came back yesterday and trolled me a little
[14:09] <LjL> possibly him, ip looks similar from what i remember
[14:09] <bazhang> LjL, though not sure if the one from today was the same one from the last two days
[14:09] <bazhang> though he did talk much the same way
[14:13] <LjL> bazhang: i see only three messages from him, is that right?
[14:13] <bazhang> LjL, that seems correct
[14:23] <ikonia> sorry ljl
[14:23] <ikonia> didn't mean to step on toes
[14:23] <LjL> np, although that might be accidental
[14:24] <ikonia> maybe, didn't appear so 
[14:25] <ikonia> doesn't respond to a pm 
[15:37] <bazhang> !crosspost
[15:37] <bazhang> hmm
[15:38] <Pici> I didn't add it.
[15:38] <bazhang> that would have been handy in +1 a few minutes ago
[15:38] <bazhang> Pici, just testing :)
[15:39] <bazhang> trying to draw you from your lair
[15:39] <ikonia> I'd like to see pici-cave
[15:40] <bazhang> its a lair
[15:40] <bazhang> most pici-lair
[15:45] <Pici> !crosspost is <reply> Please don't ask the same question in multiple Ubuntu channels at the same time. Many helpers are in more than one channel.  Most helpers are in more than one channel and its not fair to them or the other people seeking support.
[15:45] <Pici> oops
[15:46] <Pici> !no crosspost is <reply> Please don't ask the same question in multiple Ubuntu channels at the same time. Many helpers are in more than one channel and its not fair to them or the other people seeking support.
[15:46] <Pici> How does that sound?
[15:46] <bazhang> good
[15:46] <bazhang> it's 
[15:47] <Pici> !crosspost =~ s/its/it's/
[16:05]  * Pici shuts his mouth on stuff he doesnt know about
[16:08] <LjjjL> Pici, thing is that compilers generally generate an assembly file and then just call the assembler, very few of them just directly compile to machine code
[16:11] <LjjjL> !runlevels
[16:11] <ikonia> !init
[16:12] <LjjjL> !runlevels is <reply> In Ubuntu all runlevels except 0,1 and 6 are by default equal. Also keep in mind that Ubuntu now uses !Upstart instead of System V init so there is normally no /etc/inittab.
[16:12] <Pici> !bootoptions
[16:12] <Pici> hrm.
[16:12] <LjjjL> please, add that. several people are indeed confused about it
[16:12] <Pici> !runlevels is <reply> In Ubuntu all runlevels except 0,1 and 6 are by default equal. Also keep in mind that Ubuntu now uses !Upstart instead of System V init so there is normally no /etc/inittab.
[16:13] <LjjjL> i added "normally" because there can be an inittab, and it's partly respected
[16:13] <LjjjL> (very partly... only the default runlevel is looked at)
[16:13] <Pici> indoobitily.
[16:13] <erUSUL> ok; thanks
[16:16] <bazhang> middle clicking with epiphany does not open in new tab?
[16:17] <LjjjL> bazhang: yes but that's a bit impractical on the eeepc
[16:17] <bazhang> LjjjL, oho
[16:17] <Pici> No middle mouse button?
[16:18] <LjjjL> Pici: no mouse...
[16:18] <bazhang> ctrl +t as well I suppose
[16:18] <Myrtti> ctrl-c
[16:18] <Pici> LjjjL: My Thinkpad has a middle mouse/touchpad button
[16:18] <Myrtti> Pici: ...
[16:19] <Myrtti> Pici: NEWSFLASH! eeePC != Thinkpad
[16:19] <Pici> Myrtti: NEWSFLASH! I don't have an eeePC
[16:19] <bazhang> wat??
[16:19]  * bazhang has both
[16:19] <LjjjL> Pici: need to either click both buttons at a time (clumsy as hell), or using the elantech driver, tap with two fingers (less clumsy but can be mistaken for a scroll action)
[16:19] <Myrtti> neither do I... but it's kinda obvious not all laptops are the same
[16:20] <Myrtti> I need painkillers
[16:20] <bazhang> Myrtti, why?
[16:20] <LjjjL> overly hot coffee?
[16:21] <Pici> I'm guessing back pain.
[16:21] <bazhang> oh.
[16:21] <Pici> I'm not allowed to have caffeine for at least a week ;(
[16:21] <LjjjL> i think i hate touchpads anyway
[16:21] <LjjjL> grrr to microsoft for stopping the eeepc from having a touchscreen
[16:21] <Pici> Do you prefer the mousing nipple?
[16:22] <bazhang> never used it
[16:22] <LjjjL> Pici: not really... i prefer a mouse, i guess
[16:22] <LjjjL> or a touchscreen on a device like this
[16:23] <LjjjL> or aanyway maybe it's just this touchpad or its driver... but i just can't make fine motions
[16:41] <Myrtti> it's really annoying, usually my right side is more sore, but now my left hip feels bad and I can't feel comfortable in any position I'm in
[16:41] <Myrtti> s/feel/be/
[16:42] <bazhang> perhaps a chiropractor or acupuncturist could help
[16:42] <Pici> or drugs
[16:43]  * erUSUL quits to reboot to 2.6.28-rc5... ciao
[16:48] <Myrtti> I'd have to go and complain about my back again to the doctors... I probably need a MRI taken
[19:06] <Mez> Myrtti: lol - I just found those CDs I bought when we went shopping on the Sunday - forgot I'd bought them
[19:11] <Myrtti> whee!
[19:17] <Myrtti> and it was Monday anyway
[19:18] <Myrtti> tramp is full of emacs goodness ♥ 
[19:19] <Myrtti> I'm doing a mobile start page...
[19:19] <Myrtti> *sigh*
[19:20] <Mez> Myrtti: oh yeah it was monday. *chuckles* I only found them cause I was looking for a signed CD I had hidden away (and it turns out one of the receptionists at work used to go out with the drummer from that band!)
[19:20] <PriceChild>  Mez don't you work at vB?
[19:20] <ikonia> I hope he still does, I want discount !
[19:21] <Mez> PriceChild: Not anymore.
[19:21] <Myrtti> hasn't in ages
[19:21]  * ikonia is out of loop
[19:21] <PriceChild> I was gonna say.. "one of the receptionists"
[19:21] <Myrtti> I need painkillers, more painkillers, lots painkillers.
[19:21] <Myrtti> I didn't get any painkillers.
[19:21] <Pici> :(
[19:21] <Myrtti> would it be better if I lied on my back my legs on the bed?
[19:21] <Myrtti> I guess it would.
[19:22] <Myrtti> moin genii
[19:22]  * Mez throws Myrtti a pack of tramadol
[19:22] <genii> Myrtti: Moin :)
[19:22] <Myrtti> ow.
[19:22] <jdong> Myrtti: ugh I feel your pain, been through similar points in my medical history too.
[19:22] <jdong> all I can say is you'll feel miserable in every position...
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[19:23] <genii> And good afternoon, evening, or morning to others,depending upon your timezones...
[19:23] <ikonia> hey genii 
[19:23] <genii> ikonia: Hiya
[19:27] <Myrtti> I want a bounty bar. damnit.
[19:28] <genii> Are those the ones with lots of cocoanut?
[19:28] <ikonia> they are
[19:28] <ikonia> do they still do milk and dark chocolate versions ?
[19:28] <PriceChild> favourite line from the boosh, while eating coconuts, vince: "mmm tastes like bounty"
[19:29] <ikonia> ha ha
[19:29] <ikonia> I'm only just finding mighty boosh - so give me a chance to get to know it
[19:38] <PriceChild> ikonia: you'll have no time when it comes to the crunch
[19:39] <ikonia> ?
[19:40] <ikonia> the crunch ?
[19:40] <PriceChild> Don't talk to me about the crunch.
[19:40] <ikonia> ????
[19:40] <PriceChild> You know nothing of the crunch.
[19:40] <ikonia> have I lagged and missed something
[19:40] <ikonia> no
[19:41] <ikonia> I'm only on epsidoe 2
[19:41] <ikonia> episode 2
[19:41] <ikonia> have I missed something important
[19:59]  * Myrtti kicks Ryanair.com
[19:59] <Myrtti> work you stupid POS
[20:00]  * genii thinks about linux Point 0f Sale terminals
[20:01] <Myrtti> why is it so difficult to make decent, working websites
[20:10] <Mez> Myrtti: it's not - there are just crappily educated web developers out there
[20:22] <Myrtti> hate hate hate hate hate hate hate ryanair
[20:23] <Pici> What an ugly website
[20:25]  * Mez has a doppleganger
[20:27] <Myrtti> it's SLOW and it's HORRIBLE and it's UGLY and it needs to be killed.
[20:29] <Mez> my doppleganger?
[20:29] <Pici> Sure, why not?
[20:29] <Mez> I *could* kill it :P
[20:29] <Mez> /ns ghost mez_ 
[20:30] <Myrtti> do /lastlog r4mb0x 
[20:30] <Myrtti> at ubuntu
[21:06] <Myrtti> (11:04:47 PM) Myrtti: eniro.fi has search that allows to search from yellow pages, maps etc
[21:06] <Myrtti> (11:05:11 PM) Myrtti: if you want to search from white pages, you need a passnumber and your phone number as a username
[21:07] <Myrtti> (11:06:23 PM) Myrtti: the mobile search form passes both in GET.
[21:07]  * Myrtti facepalms
[21:14] <Myrtti> pleia2: commencing count down
[21:14]  * pleia2 nods
[21:15] <Myrtti> 23:14] <heret|c> 16:11 < Camarade_Tux> lol, I did not leave #ubuntu-women
[21:15] <Myrtti> [23:14] <heret|c> 16:11 < Camarade_Tux> * Myrtti rolls her eyes
[21:15] <Myrtti> [23:14] <heret|c> 16:11 < Camarade_Tux> <Myrtti> this isn't the channel you were 
[21:15] <Myrtti>                   looking for.  Move along, MOVE ALONG.
[21:15] <Myrtti> [23:14] <heret|c> 16:11 < Camarade_Tux> I had to refrain from typing 's/eyes/tongue' :D
[21:15] <Myrtti> [23:15] <Myrtti> so you had to come to the channel and be the idiot he didn't want to 
[21:15] <Myrtti>                  be?
[21:15] <Myrtti> [23:15] <heret|c> so i thought i'd pick on em. like a online way of putting someone's 
[21:15] <Myrtti>                   foot in their mouth for them
[21:16] <Myrtti> [23:15] <heret|c> good times :)
[21:16] <Myrtti> [23:15] <Myrtti> no offence, but that's what it looks like
[21:16] <Myrtti> [23:16] <Myrtti> good times?
[21:16] <Myrtti> like
[21:16] <Myrtti> OMGLOL.
[21:16] <Myrtti> what planet have I landed to
[21:17] <Myrtti> ehh
[21:17] <Myrtti> he put me on ignore
[21:18] <pleia2> ugh, there are like, herds of them today
[21:19] <Myrtti> http://paste.ubuntu.com/73493/
[21:19] <Myrtti> pleia2: mind if I kick Camarade?
[21:19] <pleia2> go for it
[21:20]  * PriceChild takes a look
[21:27]  * mneptok bursts into flames
[21:28] <mneptok> I ARRIVE, UNCLAD AND WITH THE SLENDOR OF DAWN!
[21:28] <mneptok> "splendor," too.
[21:28] <PriceChild> not slender?
[21:28] <genii> Splenda?
[21:28]  * mneptok hates it when poor typing skills ruin nude entrances
[21:28] <PriceChild> Not interested then.
[21:32] <Myrtti> I'm in a foul mood. make him go away.
[21:32] <Myrtti> phew.
[21:32]  * ikonia steps back
[21:33] <Myrtti> there is only one sustainable resource in the universe.
[21:33] <Myrtti> HUMAN STUPIDITY.
[21:33]  * mneptok 's warming rays envelope Myrtti in a comforting glow of pure, unadulterated fury
[21:41] <Myrtti> someday I'll buy a nice good Finnish pesäpallo bat. And gather a group of friends, armed with their Louisville Sluggers and golf clubs and hockey sticks. And go for a vendetta against the human stupidity. The battle will be lost, but the cause will be noble.
[21:44] <ikonia> @bansearch tdawgedogg
[21:47] <Myrtti> "kraptronnik: here for the show? would you like to have some soda? hot dogs? pop corn?" almost tempted to ask...
[21:48] <mneptok> Myrtti: THEY CAN TAKE OUR HOMES! THEY CAN TAKE OUR CROPS! BUT THEY WILL NEVER TAKE OUR ADVANCED UNIVERSITY DEGREEEEEEEEEES! </mel gibson>
[21:48] <Myrtti> http://paste.ubuntu.com/73500/
[21:48] <mneptok> *cuh-lick*
[21:49] <Myrtti> oh look
[21:49] <Myrtti> I've got ubuntu release day emp cannon
[21:51] <ikonia> flash64 is causing pain amongst the blind adoptors
[21:51]  * Myrtti facepalms
[21:52] <Myrtti> well, I *did
[21:52] <Myrtti> * warn them
[21:57] <mneptok> yes, yes you did.
[21:57] <mneptok> that's a very clean and sparkly conscience you're sporting. :)
[22:54] <nickrud> lol ljl, redirects to the police?
[22:55] <LjL> nickrud: yes, the pirate bay is blocked in italy, pending investigation
[22:55] <ikonia> quick thinking
[22:55] <nickrud> wow
[22:55] <ikonia> nickrud: good few places doing that now
[22:56] <LjL> ikonia, i beg to differ though on the not being up for discussing. he mentioned two sites he can't access, and which he can access in windows, i think that's up to discussion...
[22:56] <nickrud> good few? Just a few good places, or it's good only a few places?
[22:56] <LjL> he didn't say what he's connecting to that site for, and i didn't ask
[22:56] <ikonia> a fair few
[22:57] <nickrud> ah, that colloquialism I know ;)
[22:57] <ikonia> I'll do better next time
[22:57] <nickrud> :P
[22:58] <Myrtti> L-G: hello, can we help you?
[23:03] <L-G> :) no its ok for me im here to see if there is problems then i can help with to..
[23:03] <ikonia> L-G: support problems are in #ubuntu
[23:04] <L-G> true
[23:04] <Pici> L-G: You're being forwarded here because you were asked to disable a script in #ubuntu, did you do so?
[23:04] <ikonia> L-G: I see you have been running script and bots
[23:05] <ikonia> ahhh Pici your quicker
[23:05] <L-G> yes im have me one irc net and have alot of scrips running.
[23:05] <ikonia> Pici: where do you see the forward, I just see the kick
[23:05] <Pici> @bansearch L-G 
[23:06] <ikonia> IP not nick
[23:06] <Pici> Yes, but that IP matches up with L-G here.
[23:06] <Pici> And it does in my logs as well.
[23:06] <ikonia> I see that, I just searched on nick - sloppy
[23:07] <Myrtti> L-G: we don't actually need any scripts/bots on #ubuntu in addition to our own
[23:07] <Pici> !give ikonia a test
[23:07]  * L-G gives ikonia a bale of hay
[23:10] <Myrtti> L-G: have you disabled all your scripts and bots?
[23:10] <Myrtti> atleast in #ubuntu and related channels?
[23:11] <L-G> [SERV] #ubuntu #ubuntu-ops :Forwarding to another channel
[23:11] <nickrud> doncha just love responsive answers
[23:11] <L-G> i try to rejoin #ubuntu
[23:12] <L-G> im be direktly forward by the irc server to -ops
[23:12] <mneptok> THE SCRIPTS! DID YOU DISABLE THEM?
[23:12] <ikonia> !give pici a test
[23:12]  * L-G gives pici Bill Clinton
[23:12] <ikonia> damn scripts are still running
[23:12] <mneptok> that would be a no
[23:13] <Pici> L-G: I said that earlier.
[23:13] <Pici> 18:04:50 <Pici> L-G: You're being forwarded here because you were asked to disable a script in #ubuntu, did you do so?
[23:13] <nickrud> L-G, to be explicit, unless you turn off all scripts while you're in #ubuntu you will never get back in
[23:13] <mneptok> what ain't no country i ever heard of.
[23:13] <LjL> what the hell
[23:13] <Pici> mneptok: :d
[23:13] <Pici> er, :D
[23:13] <LjL> ikonia: spring cleanings time yay!
[23:14]  * mneptok doffs his full-head latex Sam Jackson mask
[23:14] <L-G> hmm i have alot of scripts i cant disable al of them.
[23:14] <mneptok> then you live on the doorstep. please drive through.
[23:14] <LjL> L-G: you only need to disable those that can result in unwanted messages or notices being sent to #ubuntu
[23:14] <Myrtti> L-G: har du disablerat dina script och sånt? vi behöver inte dom i våra kanaler
[23:15] <L-G> hmm ok, then i have to try to remove in the chan.
[23:15] <LjL> i think almost all of us here live with virtually no scripts, by the way.
[23:15] <LjL> we mostly survived, as of now.
[23:18] <Myrtti> ehhehheh.
[23:24] <Pici> What if I want a lemon though?
[23:25] <ikonia> you can't have one
[23:25] <Pici> :(
[23:25] <ikonia> you got a bill clinton - be thankful
[23:25] <Pici> I can't make lemonade from him.
[23:25] <ikonia> !give pici a john mcain
[23:25] <Pici> Okay, okay, beggars can't be choosers.
[23:25] <ikonia> ha ha
[23:27] <LjL> GRRRR
[23:27] <LjL> launchpad can't hang up konqueror, seriously
[23:28] <LjL> every time i try to look up a bug it takes an era and a half, on the very system that launchpad was created for
[23:31] <mneptok> you stole Mark's laptop?
[23:34] <LjL> mneptok: i call that an indefinite duration lend
[23:41] <ikonia> can someone boot in offtopic please
[23:42] <ikonia> and gibbathe hut
[23:42] <ikonia> gibbathehut
[23:43] <mneptok> ikonia: that user is not in -offtopic
[23:44] <ikonia> ljl got him
[23:44] <ikonia> they are all over freenode
[23:44] <ikonia> little scamps
[23:44] <ikonia> ##linux, #perl, ##php, #mysql etc
[23:44] <ikonia> may give the ops in ##linux-ops a heads up
[23:45] <LjL> i've done that with the gentoo ones, just now
[23:45] <LjL> since that fellow in -ot is in there
[23:45] <LjL> (and using a shell, too)
[23:46] <ikonia> just told ##linux-ops
[23:47] <ikonia> interesting they don't respond in all the channels