[00:05] btw, incase anyone wants to help commiecary, jdong reccomends upgrading to ext4: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=973701 [00:06] * LjL takes note: never upgrade to ext4 [00:07] (he doesn't actually, but that's what he says about the upgrade) [02:01] wow. [02:01] What a pleasant fellow. [02:08] at least I don't feel so bad about kicking him now [02:12] PriceChild: so far I haven't lost any data :D [02:12] *knock on wood* [02:13] jdong: real men don't have backups [02:14] :) [02:15] fernandesfer, install wine and then install internet explorer, then u should be able to access hotmail with no problems <--as opposed to using ff3? [02:16] he seems to be giving some odd advice imo [02:17] haha [02:17] I'd try faking user-agent first ;-) [02:17] but I wouldn't be surprised if that doesn't work [02:18] MS has been clamping down on Hotmail access [02:18] Indeed. I've seen a few reports (not only in irc) of Hotmail not allowing Linux users to check their mail. [02:18] yeah and I've seen seom comments that it's not as simple as user-agent faking anymore [02:19] they literally did something to the site to render it incompatible with non-IE browsers. [02:19] wow [02:20] guys, what can we do about these users trying linux? Hmm.. Let's alienate them! [02:20] FloodBot2 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) [02:20] FloodBot3 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) [02:21] that was a lot of victims :/ [02:32] FloodBot3 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) [02:32] FloodBot2 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) [02:33] FloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) [02:35] dang Pici you take all the fun out of #ubuntu ;( [02:40] it's not even thanksgiving and I've just seen my first christmas commercial. [02:41] where do i find new firmware for WRT54GS V7.2 ??? [02:42] lakeoftea, #ubuntu is the support channel [02:42] lakeoftea, this is not a support channel [02:43] i was just wondering bc it keeps telling me my router is buggy with DCC exploit [02:44] FloodBot2 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) [02:44] FloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) [02:45] can the IDS feature not be turned off on the WRT54GS? [02:45] what is ids? im so confused [02:45] not really, just a little [02:45] what's up guys [02:45] the "Intrusion Detection System" that is causing your router to react to the DCC exploit [02:45] it should be a setting in the web configuration UI [02:46] at least I hope such a stupid feature can be disabled.... :-/ [02:47] is it that bad really? [02:49] yes. [02:49] is it ident on port 113? [02:49] it looks for a particular string that starts with DCC and disconnects any connection that contains such data in the stream. [02:51] so do i want to make sure dcc traffic can go through? or no ??? [02:51] no, I wouldn't care too much about it. Just connect to IRC on port 8001 as described in the guide. [02:51] most routers with this bug actually do NOT have a firmware that fixes it [02:52] the vendor simply doesn't think it's a problem [02:52] apparently its preventing me from getting into #ubuntu :( [02:53] please follow the instructions in the redirected channel to reconnect on port 8001 [02:53] k so i wanna give mirc a port? [02:53] correct. [02:53] nice i can do that [02:53] i was about to flash with openwrt happy i didnt have to go there [02:54] :) [02:54] now I wouldn't want to discourage you from doing that! [02:54] i actually do want to do that but i need to read a book or something on it 1st [02:54] I'd personally recommend DD-WRT, but that's just preference. [02:57] it says i should open 1024-5000 for mirc do you think thats really necessary? [02:57] so many ports [02:57] whoa, no way. [02:57] k good [02:57] you just have to tell mirc that irc.freenode.com is on port 8001 [02:58] instead of port 6667 [02:58] you don't need to actually open any ports on the router [02:58] ohhhh i see [02:58] thats nice [02:58] your router's "super security feature" only pays attention to port 6667 :) [02:58] makes you feel nice and cozy, huh? :) [02:58] yes feel much better [02:59] k brb [02:59] nice work jdong [03:00] can you start from the beginning please? [03:02] that's what she said? [03:04] thx jdong working good now [03:05] cool :) [03:07] lakeoftea: i don't think i'm gonna do that :) [03:07] (ident) [03:07] maybe you'll get lucky somewhere else though [04:37] er [04:37] -ot ops? [04:37] histo spamming [04:38] Flannel: need him gone? [04:38] mm, he's apologising [04:38] ok [04:38] Not sure how ascii spam is wrong window, [04:39] I missed it. [05:08] Gnea called the ops in #ubuntu () [05:10] Theres... something [05:10] I just am not sure what. [05:11] Ah, found it [05:11] tony_ is that hello sinners guy. And he's giving out bum information. [05:11] tritium [05:12] Flannel: "hello sinners" guy? [05:12] tritium: yeah [05:12] tritium: Thats how (s)he greets the channel when joining [05:12] I've not encountered him before. [05:12] ah [05:13] Really? interesting [05:14] I don't remember, at any rate. [05:15] okay, sorry if you seem a bit miffed there tritium, but this tony_ guy is giving misleading information to users who have genuine issues [05:16] would you like me to copy and paste some lines? [05:17] Not necessary, Gnea. [05:17] Then what is necessary? [05:17] Gnea: We'll keep an eye on him, and have read the backlogs. [05:18] Okay. [05:21] I just get really irritated when someone comes along like that and starts to make trouble. I'm sorry if my frustration has rubbed off onto anyone else. [06:42] excuse me, but wth am I doing awake [06:43] hugging me and listening oifm.fi [06:51] Tm_T, how's bubbeh? [06:51] and wth are you doing on irc? [06:52] elkbuntu: I have to go to school today [06:52] :( [06:52] but baby is fine, will go there before lectures [06:53] :) [06:53] pics, or it didnt happen :P [06:54] I did some benchmarking yesterday. [06:54] elkbuntu: as soon as I get those out of that crappy camera [06:54] decided to test how long it will take for a certain work related command to run on my work desktop vs. my own laptop [06:55] work desktop: real 3m3.316s; user 0m15.209s; sys 0m9.577s [06:55] own laptop: real 122m26.896s;user 0m34.910s; sys 0m37.662s [06:56] encouraging. [06:59] underclocked laptop? [07:01] this must be something about the fstab settings [07:01] and my wifi [07:02] because now that I do that with local files instead of doing it to files that are nfs, mounted, the command took real0m34.002s on my laptop [07:02] probably the sync [07:04] I assume everyone else got a dcc attack from bintang [07:04] 216.253.117.112] has joined #Ubuntu [07:05] now, or earlier? [07:05] earlier on [07:05] I had about 10 users attack me [07:05] I got lots of [07:06] hmm [07:06] ahh couple of them got klined [07:15] ikonia: sync was a bad idea :-P [07:15] (was it you who with I thought about this aloud last night?) [07:15] anyway [07:22] not sure [07:22] sorry lost connection for a bit then [07:54] how long till asus-tek messages me? (I sent him a message saying no to his FB request - just got this in reply" [07:54] lol hehe okey dude hope to see ya or meet ya soon on irc [07:54] tc bye [07:54] Warm regards Umakant :P :D [07:54] n=ubuntu@80.77.146.50 0949.10 onlu gays use ubuntu [07:54] 0949.31 including you, son? [07:55] Mez: wth lol [07:55] Tm_T: wen was that [07:55] when [07:55] 5 minutes ago [07:55] Tm_T: not really the correct response ... [07:55] Myrtti: you said you blocked him - where's the block button ? :P [07:55] Mez: well I wanted to know his idea, wasn't my plan to call him anything [07:56] Mez: just asking what exactly he is saying [07:56] Tm_T: still comes across badly [07:56] Mez: http://www.facebook.com/privacy/?ref=mb [07:56] ah well... [07:56] Mez: I notice yes, should have made better sentence [07:57] Mez: unfortunately I'm bit blind for this, my sayings could seem to worse than what I mean [07:57] ah, under "report person" [07:57] Tm_T: *hugs* [07:57] indeed [07:58] * Mez wonders what "wii" stands for (in irssi /wii instead of whois every time - better info!) [07:59] whois whois [07:59] kinda [07:59] damn crontabs [08:00] WII whois $0 $0 [08:00] WHEEEE [08:00] lol [08:00] so, is it "Who Is Is" kinda then =) [08:00] anyway, time to get up from the bed and make coffee [08:00] Myrtti: baby said his first words already [08:01] awwwwww [08:01] "ennääääää" or so [08:01] or so it sounds when she cries =) [08:01] s/his/her/ [08:02] Myrtti: conversly, for me - sleeping tablet time ;) [08:02] Mez: good luck with that [08:02] huh? [08:02] sleeping meds >__< [08:02] hold on... 'baby said his first words' 'or so it sounds when she cries' ... which is it? [08:03] yeah, I need them of late... cant sleep... [08:03] and sleeping in the day isn't much fun either :( [08:03] elkbuntu: [10:01] <+Tm_T> s/his/her/ [08:03] ah [08:03] i missed that line, sorry [08:03] cross your fingers I get the job of running the network for the first school in the UK to switch to linux (ltsp ftw!) [08:04] Mez: the first school ? [08:04] I've done 3 or 4 thorugh research machines [08:04] through even [08:05] ikonia: the first school in the UK to switch to linux... [08:05] * Myrtti pulls on The Space Invaders shirt and gets going [08:05] but I've put Linux deployments in 3 or 4 [08:05] Mez: the first school to publically announce the switch [08:05] using as you said ltsp [08:05] Myrtti: *shrugs* [08:05] *shrug* [08:05] ikonia: dunno - but [08:06] 08:11 <+ikonia> using as you said ltsp [08:06] grr [08:06] http://www.openhgs.org.uk/moin.cgi/LinuxProject [08:06] there is one in Birmingham, one in Swindgon (I think it's swindon) and one somewhere in scotland that I'm aware of [08:06] skegness ? [08:07] * Mez cant find the info on the swindon one... but meh http://schoolforge.org.uk/index.php/Case_Studies = FLOSS in schools [08:07] thats not scotland [08:07] * Mez doesnt know [08:07] lol [08:07] ah [08:07] * Mez just knows handsworth grammar [08:07] I'm sure I could mail an old collegue if your interested in the names of the schools [08:08] feel free, you have my email to drop me a line ;) [08:08] ok [08:08] anyways - bedtime [08:08] I'll mail him when I get in the office [08:08] bed time ??? it's 8:0 am [08:08] #k has some lovely friends today [08:10] oh my god [08:10] today's xkcd made my eyes wet [08:11] trains in the satation, laters [08:12] awww [08:12] 1009.22 -!- Irssi: Starting query in freenode with ubuntu__ [08:12] 1009.22 come on join irc undernet [08:12] 1009.28 ull get a ban [08:16] odd [08:17] what is? [08:17] That. [08:17] Did you ban him? [08:17] I did [08:17] the whole tone is bemusing to say the least. [08:17] That's nice of him. He's nice enouh to return the favor. [08:17] indeed (: [08:23] Myrtti: ouch! [08:23] Tm_T: I know. [09:04] Grrr [09:09] what is the growl for [09:10] he's using australian internet. he's used to finnish internet. that'd be enough to make me growl [09:11] elkbuntu: very true [09:11] but not the main reason. when did the other "me's" depart? [09:11] ikonia: I pm'ed... [09:12] [08:15] ~~~jussi01 [n=jussi01@ubuntu/member/jussi01] has quit [SendQ exceeded] [09:12] 2008-11-17 11:12:54 [09:12] and neverf came back... :( [09:13] but yet, ubottu is still here... [09:13] what about jussio1 ? [09:13] how od [09:13] sendq is sendq [09:13] looks like a client issue from the senq message [09:14] ugh lag [09:14] jussi01_: that hasn't been online during my lastlog [09:14] hrm, incredibly weird [09:14] both of them down at the same time... [09:14] Im worried [09:16] * Gary must not make comments about jussi01 going down on you... [09:16] oh, dear, I typed that out aloud didn't I? [09:16] * jussi01_ slaps Gary [09:17] i'll go back to trolling #defocus shall I? [09:18] Gary: yeap :D [09:19] cheeky bastards, the lot of you [09:41] wgrant: ping [10:11] jussi01_: Hi. [10:11] @btlogin [10:11] (apologies for lag, studying for Linear Algebra exam) [10:12] wow [10:12] wgrant: do you have any time tomorrow morning for a coffee? [10:13] jussio1, jussi01_, whoever you are now: I've an exam from 0915-1230, so no... [10:14] jussi01_, come to sydney and i'll chuck a sickie :P [10:17] elkbuntu: how about a place to stay? :D [10:17] :P [10:18] um... you possibly would have to clear somewhere to do so... i practice the exact opposite of housekeeping [10:18] nah, seriously, know of any cheap decent hostels? [10:19] i've got no clue about that stuff, but there's a hotel a block from me that does $85/night rooms. hardly cheap. [10:19] the gutter ? [10:20] ooh. [10:20] 64-bit flash. [10:20] where ? [10:20] not ehard anything on that [10:20] not heard [10:20] http://blogs.adobe.com/penguin.swf/2008/11/now_supporting_16_exabytes.html [10:21] it... works. [10:21] ;___; [10:21] interesting [10:21] wgrant: post exam coffee? [10:22] Myrtti: an ammusing blog post also [10:24] heh, i know what im missing still... Games! [10:24] jussi01_: Sure. [10:25] elky_e71: frozen bubble [10:25] http://fb-s60.sourceforge.net/ [10:25] what cool games are there for this thing? [10:25] ooh [10:26] wgrant: ok, Im driving through sometime, where is the best place to meet you? [10:27] Well, my exam is right near the CBD (in the Royal Exhibition Building), so I don't quite know... [10:29] That can't be good. [10:32] jussi01_: Did you see my response? [10:33] wgrant: no. :( [10:33] 21:27:55 < wgrant> Well, my exam is right near the CBD (in the Royal Exhibition Building), so I don't quite know... [10:34] wgrant: ok, Well as I said Im driving, so anywhere works for me, how about southbank somewhere? [10:35] you remember how to drive australian style? :P [10:35] jussi01_: Sure. Easy to get to. I don't know the contents of southbank well. [10:36] elkbuntu: lol [10:36] elkbuntu: isn't it just never lift of throttle [10:36] wgrant: nor do I, but Ill park somewhere around crown... [10:37] ikonia: with the new draconian laws, its never put your foot down... [10:37] jussi01_: Where shall we meet? [10:38] ikonia, you'd think so, in sydney [10:39] The solution to that is to avoid NSW. [10:39] Although that's not foolproof. [10:40] Myrtti, there's no widescreen version of the frozen bubble :( [10:40] awwww :-( [10:40] sigh... [10:41] jussi01_: Why's it so bad? [10:41] wgrant: my connection? [10:41] * elkbuntu tries the teensy resolution of it, to see if it all fits on the screen [10:42] jussi01_: Yes. [10:42] wgrant, because it's australian internet, of course. [10:42] because its my parents place.... [10:43] Heh. [10:43] * Myrtti huggles jussi01_ [10:43] Fun fun. [10:50] Myrtti, the teensy one fits and works, but is teensy [10:50] hopefully they make a widescreen version [10:50] i mean, one that fits properly, even if it has wasted space [10:54] * elkbuntu huggles jussi01_ [10:55] Very successful. [10:55] That is the worst Australian Internet connection I've seen for a while... [10:55] wgrant, internode have been flaking all over the place lately [10:57] someone find me an s60 version of tuxracer kthxbai [11:07] ahh, finally [11:09] hai. [11:16] wow, it seems to be sticking around... for now... [11:16] Yep... [11:17] dont jinx yourself, kiddo [11:18] * wgrant heads over with some wirecutters. [11:19] * jussi01_ goes outside with the shotty... [11:20] haha [11:21] Noo. [11:29] opening +1 was a mistake [11:29] Oh, already!? [11:29] yep [11:29] when is the alpha!!!!??? [11:30] ikonia: Jaunty exists... 9.04 does not. [11:30] it doesn't really [11:30] it's based on 8.10 [11:30] I dragged it out of the repos the other night [11:30] As Jaunty final will be. [11:30] exactly [11:31] ikonia: Jaunty exists. [11:32] differes as in core componet from 8.10 ? [11:33] About 2000 new versions of packages, with a new glibc, new lots of other stuff... [11:34] ahh so glibc has been updated [11:34] it didn't appear to have been [11:34] Linux and glibc do not define the distroseries. [11:34] of course not, but they are core components [11:35] seeign as the whole OS is linked into glibc I consider it a core component [11:35] Alpha 1 will be the same. Are you saying that Jaunty Alpha 1 is Intrepid? [11:35] no, not at all [11:36] CAKE IS A LIE [11:37] Myrtti: I beg to differ, so I'll take your cake. Om nom nom. [11:39] wgrant: I am now curious though, has the glibc version been decided for 9.04 or is the current version a place holder ? I would have thought all that discusison would have been finalised at UDS [11:39] ikonia: Toolchain stuff is usually largely decided at the previous UDS. [11:40] Because the toolchain needs to be finished and built a few days after the previous release is released. [11:40] ooh really, so your already locked into roughly speaking to the toolchain compoentns for the next release [11:40] But in the scheme of things, glibc is very minor. [11:40] Even gcc isn't that huge, and we have no major new gcc this release. [11:42] wgrant: so what about the libc headers, surly you can't decided them now due to the unknown of say - 3 months down the line [11:42] (3 months just an example) [11:42] actually I assume this could be discussed in -devel [11:43] choo [11:43] hehe [11:43] I believe that the general plan is decided at UDS by the toolchain guys. Specifics are worked out later as toolchain component release schedules get more concrete. [12:03] a (n=a@86.46.98.12) has joined #ubuntu <--wonder if that is the same 'a' from yesterday [12:05] @bansearch a [12:05] No matches found for a!n=a@86.46.98.12 in any channel [12:14] that was tdeath again [12:16] [tdeath] (i=tdeath@powerprecision.com): Unknown [MOELESTER] (i=tdeath@111.45.233.72.static.reverse.ltdomains.com): Unknown [12:16] yup [12:17] so a /cs b by ident? [12:18] wow a 3rd time [12:18] oh niglet was tdeath too [12:18] dinner time [12:19] Irc in bed, lawl [12:20] nice [12:26] anyway, nini [13:27] * Pici conciders a !crosspost factoid [13:28] * Pici considers breakfast first though [13:29] ha ha [13:39] hehe === jrib1 is now known as jrib [14:00] * [Guest4468] (n=vincent@cc846502-a.ensch1.ov.home.nl): Vincent van Bruchem [14:03] is he known ? [14:04] aka vincent_, Vinny, and one other I forget. seems to ask really chatty questions/offtopic [14:05] #bansearch seekingtruth [14:05] oops [14:06] @bansearch seekingtruth [14:06] No matches found for seekingtruth!*@* in any channel [14:07] bazhang: that nickname is known to me [14:08] i don't remember how bad, though (i rarely do) [14:08] tony_ is seekingtruth ('hello sinners') [14:08] LjL, saw another 'a' in #ubuntu earlier today [14:08] [a] (n=a@86.46.98.12): a [14:09] bazhang: the same "a" came back yesterday and trolled me a little [14:09] possibly him, ip looks similar from what i remember [14:09] LjL, though not sure if the one from today was the same one from the last two days [14:09] though he did talk much the same way [14:13] bazhang: i see only three messages from him, is that right? [14:13] LjL, that seems correct [14:23] sorry ljl [14:23] didn't mean to step on toes [14:23] np, although that might be accidental [14:24] maybe, didn't appear so [14:25]