| freetown | anybody here using Promethean boards? | 01:33 |
|---|---|---|
| sbalneav | No, link? | 01:34 |
| freetown | this one should be good: http://www.prometheanworld.com/us/ | 01:36 |
| freetown | i heard there was a beta for ActivStudio on Linux...and a promethean contact told me that they would finally be doing a release in a few months...and ubuntu was one of the platform distros | 01:37 |
| freetown | just wondered if any here had a go with the beta | 01:37 |
| sbalneav | Not that I'm aware of. | 01:39 |
| sbalneav | This cheeses me off to no end. | 01:40 |
| sbalneav | sbalneav@phobos:~/Devel/bzr/ltsp-docs-trunk$ docbook2txt LTSPManual.xml | 01:40 |
| sbalneav | Using catalogs: /etc/sgml/catalog | 01:40 |
| sbalneav | Using stylesheet: /usr/share/docbook-utils/docbook-utils.dsl#html | 01:40 |
| sbalneav | I'm trying to get plaintext docs for vagrant. | 01:40 |
| sbalneav | WHY'S IT USING THE HTML STYLESHEET? | 01:40 |
| sbalneav | styupid Thang | 01:40 |
| LaserJock | sbalneav: you workin' tonight? | 02:52 |
| sbalneav | I am! | 03:18 |
| sbalneav | Hot into the docs, ATM | 03:18 |
| LaserJock | sbalneav: lol, you actually use GNU/Linux? :-) | 04:45 |
| sbalneav | heh | 04:57 |
| sbalneav | Looking at the docs? | 04:57 |
| sbalneav | Hold on, lemme push the latest, MUCH CLEANED UP docs... | 04:58 |
| sbalneav | LaserJock: pushed | 05:00 |
| LaserJock | sbalneav: pretty darn impressive | 05:05 |
| sbalneav | Getting there. | 05:07 |
| sbalneav | Getting it organized is surprisingly difficult | 05:08 |
| LaserJock | sbalneav: are you gonna put it up on ltsp.org when you're done? | 05:09 |
| sbalneav | There's such a lot of disparate information in there. | 05:09 |
| sbalneav | Already there | 05:09 |
| sbalneav | http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/LtspDocumentationUpstream | 05:10 |
| LaserJock | ah, cool | 05:11 |
| sbalneav | Here's an interesting one. | 05:12 |
| sbalneav | I'd like to get a plaintext formatted version of the docs (.txt file) | 05:12 |
| sbalneav | but when I do docbook2txt LTSPManual.xml | 05:12 |
| sbalneav | it formats it with the html stylesheet. | 05:12 |
| LaserJock | hmm, interesting | 05:14 |
| LaserJock | I don't know that I've ever tried docbook2txt | 05:14 |
| LaserJock | sbalneav: you use sabayon or pesselus at all? | 05:58 |
| sbalneav | LaserJock: No, I just set up default panel entries | 06:00 |
| LaserJock | sbalneav: so you don't lock down at all? | 06:04 |
| LaserJock | I guess with your setting you can assume the users will behave better ;-) | 06:04 |
| sbalneav | yeah | 06:05 |
| LaserJock | sabayon seems to be really in bad shape | 06:07 |
| LaserJock | I wonder if Edubuntu could put some concerted effort into it | 06:07 |
| sbalneav | Morning all | 14:43 |
| Fritz87 | hello everyone | 18:07 |
| Lns | Hi Fritz87 | 18:17 |
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| LaserJock | hello all | 19:10 |
| sbalneav | Hey LaserJock | 19:11 |
| LaserJock | Scottie! | 19:12 |
| LaserJock | sbalneav: are you wanting a package for the LTSP docs like now? | 19:13 |
| LaserJock | sbalneav: doh, lynx was the key to getting docbook2txt to work? | 19:14 |
| sbalneav | Errr | 19:14 |
| sbalneav | Sure :) | 19:14 |
| LaserJock | lol | 19:14 |
| sbalneav | It would be great if you could show me how to get something I could put in my PPA | 19:14 |
| LaserJock | I'm just wondering how close you are to feeling "done" with it | 19:14 |
| sbalneav | Well, if I could do it with my PPA, I could just update them whenever. | 19:14 |
| sbalneav | They've got weeks and weeks of work until they're "done".... If ever :) | 19:15 |
| LaserJock | k | 19:15 |
| LaserJock | well, at some point do you want it to go into Ubuntu? | 19:15 |
| LaserJock | we could make it a dep of ltsp or something | 19:15 |
| sbalneav | Well, I guess my goal is to have something half-decent for inclusion in Jaunty | 19:16 |
| sbalneav | I'd say I'm at least 70% of the way there. | 19:16 |
| sbalneav | At some point I'll hit 80%, then the 80/20 rule will kick in, but for now, I could have something "more or less" ready in another week or two | 19:16 |
| LaserJock | I don't see where you install the .txt version in your install rule | 19:16 |
| sbalneav | so if we start on the packaging now, that'd be great. | 19:17 |
| sbalneav | how hard is it? | 19:17 |
| LaserJock | is what? | 19:17 |
| sbalneav | the packaging part | 19:18 |
| LaserJock | oh, well I can get you one that will install in ~ 5min or so | 19:18 |
| LaserJock | getting one that's perfect will take a bit of tweaking to make sure everything is all nice | 19:19 |
| sbalneav | You are so beautiful... to me.... | 19:19 |
| LaserJock | put just installing the pdf, html, and txt is trivial | 19:19 |
| LaserJock | it's getting it all set up with yelp that takes a bit more effort | 19:19 |
| LaserJock | as it's more than just dropping files in | 19:19 |
| LaserJock | but not much more | 19:20 |
| sbalneav | well, if we could just get the (pdf,html,txt) files in /usr/share/doc/ltsp-docs, that'd be awesome. The yelp thing would be perfectamundo. | 19:20 |
| LaserJock | we should also install for Khelpcenter as well | 19:21 |
| sbalneav | yessir | 19:21 |
| LaserJock | you know, just in case people are using that *other* DE | 19:21 |
| sbalneav | Phhht. | 19:21 |
| * sbalneav looks around for Aaron Seigo | 19:21 | |
| LaserJock | Khelpcenter uses HTML still I think | 19:22 |
| sbalneav | That guy's like 10 feet tall, and can melt skyscrapers with hit *mind* man. | 19:22 |
| LaserJock | you just need to drop a .desktop in the right I think | 19:22 |
| sbalneav | We don't want to cheese him off. | 19:22 |
| LaserJock | lol | 19:22 |
| sbalneav | whoops s/hit/his/ | 19:23 |
| sbalneav | That'll teach you to show up in #ltsp :) | 19:31 |
| LaserJock | I guess | 19:31 |
| sbalneav | We'll have you writing code next. | 19:31 |
| sbalneav | :) | 19:31 |
| LaserJock | nuts ... all nuts I tell you | 19:31 |
| sbalneav | Nah, just makes sense, if you're going to give me a hand with this, you might as well have permission to -trunk | 19:32 |
| LaserJock | it's a good thing you caught me on my birthday, I'm in a giving mood ;-) | 19:32 |
| sbalneav | Is it your Birfday today? | 19:32 |
| * sbalneav slides LaserJock a pale amber carbonated beverage | 19:33 | |
| sbalneav | Happy birthday! | 19:33 |
| ogra | HAPPY BDAY ! | 19:33 |
| LaserJock | yeah, I'm feeling old today | 19:33 |
| sbalneav | All in favour of voting LaserJock a Fine Upstanding Citizen, and Capital Fellow, vote now! | 19:34 |
| sbalneav | ++ | 19:34 |
| LaserJock | yeah, exactly what I thought ;-p | 19:35 |
| ogra | ++ | 19:40 |
| Lns | LaserJock: Happy bday! *hands LJ another beer to doublefist* | 19:47 |
| Moonstorm | does one even need a client with this? | 19:47 |
| LaserJock | Moonstorm: with Edubuntu? | 19:47 |
| Moonstorm | wireless usb to vga adapter? | 19:47 |
| Moonstorm | wouldn't one be able to open a session on the server? | 19:48 |
| Moonstorm | http://www.cablestogo.com/product.asp?cat_id=1525&sku=29572&cm_mmc_o=HC4zbkCjC8bywkwll%20JmP%20VyBFB%20C%20niiovvvoCjCW-CjCW- | 19:48 |
| Moonstorm | nm, it appears that may only be one display at a time, ie login at a time | 19:49 |
| EeyoreJr | local usb works? no? | 20:58 |
| EeyoreJr | i was thinking i saw this a while ago | 20:59 |
| sbalneav | EeyoreJr: You can mount usb sticks, drives, and cdroms yes. | 20:59 |
| EeyoreJr | wacom tablets? | 21:02 |
| EeyoreJr | nubae: hi. i'm setting up fatclient in dhcpd.conf. i have a question | 21:17 |
| EeyoreJr | host fatclient1 { | 21:17 |
| EeyoreJr | hardware ethernet the:thin:client:mac:add:ress; | 21:17 |
| EeyoreJr | fixed-address 192.168.0.2; | 21:17 |
| EeyoreJr | } | 21:17 |
| EeyoreJr | i assume that i must enter a line "hardware ethernet mac_addres;" for each client | 21:17 |
| EeyoreJr | the fixed-address line, requires me to enter an ip for each client as well? | 21:18 |
| EeyoreJr | and "host fatclient1, 2, 3, for each client? | 21:18 |
| Eghie | EeyoreJr: make new sections for new client | 21:18 |
| Eghie | so every client has a host section | 21:18 |
| EeyoreJr | so, host fatclient2, fatclient2, etc. | 21:19 |
| Eghie | like this: http://pastebin.com/m4d584740 | 21:20 |
| EeyoreJr | Eghie: great, awesome, and thx | 21:21 |
| Eghie | no problem | 21:21 |
| EeyoreJr | nubae: script also has thin clients in his script. do i need to setup the thin clients as well or allow them to do it on thier own ? | 21:22 |
| EeyoreJr | er, will the thin clients continue to function on thier own | 21:23 |
| EeyoreJr | ifconfig shows the address of the server mac address, not the local | 21:28 |
| Eghie | hmm, LTSP uses Bash scripts to configure the client, guess it's very adaptable to customizations | 21:30 |
| EeyoreJr | what is kiwi-ltsp ? | 21:34 |
| Eghie | my hardy APT doesn't even know kiwi-ltsp | 21:35 |
| Eghie | don't have access to Intrepid at the moment though | 21:36 |
| Eghie | so, don't know | 21:39 |
| LaserJock | EeyoreJr: kiki-ltsp is openSUSE's LTSP implementation | 21:44 |
| EeyoreJr | ah. ok | 21:44 |
| EeyoreJr | how does one find the address of the thin client in ubuntu ltsp? | 21:45 |
| LaserJock | EeyoreJr: of a currentlly connected on? | 21:45 |
| EeyoreJr | yes | 21:46 |
| LaserJock | I'm not a LTSP guy so I'm not much help | 21:46 |
| EeyoreJr | for example, i'm on a thin client now. if i do ifconfig or lspci i get the server info | 21:46 |
| LaserJock | but does ip a in a terminal give anything useful? | 21:46 |
| LaserJock | ah, i wondered | 21:46 |
| LaserJock | EeyoreJr: can you do a Ctrl-Alt-F1 and get to a virtual console | 21:48 |
| LaserJock | I think those are supposed to be on the client | 21:48 |
| EeyoreJr | ctl-alt-f1 gets me a virtual console but won't allow login | 21:49 |
| EeyoreJr | hrm | 21:49 |
| LaserJock | I think you need to set a root password in the chroot | 21:50 |
| LaserJock | and then you can log in as root on your client | 21:50 |
| EeyoreJr | http://doc.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/edubuntu/handbook/C/ - is this document current? | 22:45 |
| LaserJock | no | 22:45 |
| EeyoreJr | grr | 22:45 |
| LaserJock | I think it was updated for Gutsy | 22:46 |
| EeyoreJr | ITalC is a gui for machine management where sayabon is a gui for user management | 22:46 |
| LaserJock | right | 22:46 |
| EeyoreJr | is there a current up to date document? | 22:46 |
| LaserJock | sbalneav is working on one, one sec | 22:46 |
| EeyoreJr | i've noticed this as well pessulus | 22:46 |
| LaserJock | EeyoreJr: http://www.ltsp.org/~sbalneav/LTSPManual.html | 22:47 |
| LaserJock | EeyoreJr: what is the problem? | 22:47 |
| EeyoreJr | i'm trying to locate the mac addresses for the thin clients | 22:48 |
| EeyoreJr | ifconfig and ip and lspci show the server info | 22:48 |
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| EeyoreJr | nm, u answered it in the other forum | 22:50 |
| stgraber | EeyoreJr: arp -n | grep $LTSP_CLIENT | 22:50 |
| EeyoreJr | DHCPREQUEST for 10.2.2.41 from 00:e0:b8:30:f5:5c via eth1: wrong network ... r others attempting to connect ? | 22:50 |
| EeyoreJr | the doc covers sabayon, but not Pessulus? is pessulus | 23:03 |
| LaserJock | EeyoreJr: is pessulus ... ? | 23:04 |
| EeyoreJr | integrated? | 23:12 |
| EeyoreJr | nm. i see this is a draft | 23:13 |
| EeyoreJr | i'll work around it and figure it out | 23:13 |
| LaserJock | sabayon are related but different programs | 23:15 |
| LaserJock | sabayon is more of a profile editor | 23:15 |
| LaserJock | where pessulus is a lockdown editor | 23:15 |
| LaserJock | pessulus doesn't do as much, but I think it does what it does better | 23:16 |
| LaserJock | sabayon tends to not be as stable | 23:16 |
| EeyoreJr | pessulus does better than sabayon? it sounds as though they provide different functions | 23:32 |
| EeyoreJr | doesn't ubuntu have a lockdown editor? | 23:32 |
| EeyoreJr | A fatal error has occurred. You can help us fix the problem by sending the log in /root/sabayon-debug-log.conf to http://bugzilla.gnome.org | 23:33 |
| EeyoreJr | well, i'm hungry. it's qutting time | 23:33 |
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