[01:33] anybody here using Promethean boards? [01:34] No, link? [01:36] this one should be good: http://www.prometheanworld.com/us/ [01:37] i heard there was a beta for ActivStudio on Linux...and a promethean contact told me that they would finally be doing a release in a few months...and ubuntu was one of the platform distros [01:37] just wondered if any here had a go with the beta [01:39] Not that I'm aware of. [01:40] This cheeses me off to no end. [01:40] sbalneav@phobos:~/Devel/bzr/ltsp-docs-trunk$ docbook2txt LTSPManual.xml [01:40] Using catalogs: /etc/sgml/catalog [01:40] Using stylesheet: /usr/share/docbook-utils/docbook-utils.dsl#html [01:40] I'm trying to get plaintext docs for vagrant. [01:40] WHY'S IT USING THE HTML STYLESHEET? [01:40] styupid Thang [02:52] sbalneav: you workin' tonight? [03:18] I am! [03:18] Hot into the docs, ATM [04:45] sbalneav: lol, you actually use GNU/Linux? :-) [04:57] heh [04:57] Looking at the docs? [04:58] Hold on, lemme push the latest, MUCH CLEANED UP docs... [05:00] LaserJock: pushed [05:05] sbalneav: pretty darn impressive [05:07] Getting there. [05:08] Getting it organized is surprisingly difficult [05:09] sbalneav: are you gonna put it up on ltsp.org when you're done? [05:09] There's such a lot of disparate information in there. [05:09] Already there [05:10] http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/LtspDocumentationUpstream [05:11] ah, cool [05:12] Here's an interesting one. [05:12] I'd like to get a plaintext formatted version of the docs (.txt file) [05:12] but when I do docbook2txt LTSPManual.xml [05:12] it formats it with the html stylesheet. [05:14] hmm, interesting [05:14] I don't know that I've ever tried docbook2txt [05:58] sbalneav: you use sabayon or pesselus at all? [06:00] LaserJock: No, I just set up default panel entries [06:04] sbalneav: so you don't lock down at all? [06:04] I guess with your setting you can assume the users will behave better ;-) [06:05] yeah [06:07] sabayon seems to be really in bad shape [06:07] I wonder if Edubuntu could put some concerted effort into it [14:43] Morning all [18:07] hello everyone [18:17] Hi Fritz87 === merriam_ is now known as merriam [19:10] hello all [19:11] Hey LaserJock [19:12] Scottie! [19:13] sbalneav: are you wanting a package for the LTSP docs like now? [19:14] sbalneav: doh, lynx was the key to getting docbook2txt to work? [19:14] Errr [19:14] Sure :) [19:14] lol [19:14] It would be great if you could show me how to get something I could put in my PPA [19:14] I'm just wondering how close you are to feeling "done" with it [19:14] Well, if I could do it with my PPA, I could just update them whenever. [19:15] They've got weeks and weeks of work until they're "done".... If ever :) [19:15] k [19:15] well, at some point do you want it to go into Ubuntu? [19:15] we could make it a dep of ltsp or something [19:16] Well, I guess my goal is to have something half-decent for inclusion in Jaunty [19:16] I'd say I'm at least 70% of the way there. [19:16] At some point I'll hit 80%, then the 80/20 rule will kick in, but for now, I could have something "more or less" ready in another week or two [19:16] I don't see where you install the .txt version in your install rule [19:17] so if we start on the packaging now, that'd be great. [19:17] how hard is it? [19:17] is what? [19:18] the packaging part [19:18] oh, well I can get you one that will install in ~ 5min or so [19:19] getting one that's perfect will take a bit of tweaking to make sure everything is all nice [19:19] You are so beautiful... to me.... [19:19] put just installing the pdf, html, and txt is trivial [19:19] it's getting it all set up with yelp that takes a bit more effort [19:19] as it's more than just dropping files in [19:20] but not much more [19:20] well, if we could just get the (pdf,html,txt) files in /usr/share/doc/ltsp-docs, that'd be awesome. The yelp thing would be perfectamundo. [19:21] we should also install for Khelpcenter as well [19:21] yessir [19:21] you know, just in case people are using that *other* DE [19:21] Phhht. [19:21] * sbalneav looks around for Aaron Seigo [19:22] Khelpcenter uses HTML still I think [19:22] That guy's like 10 feet tall, and can melt skyscrapers with hit *mind* man. [19:22] you just need to drop a .desktop in the right I think [19:22] We don't want to cheese him off. [19:22] lol [19:23] whoops s/hit/his/ [19:31] That'll teach you to show up in #ltsp :) [19:31] I guess [19:31] We'll have you writing code next. [19:31] :) [19:31] nuts ... all nuts I tell you [19:32] Nah, just makes sense, if you're going to give me a hand with this, you might as well have permission to -trunk [19:32] it's a good thing you caught me on my birthday, I'm in a giving mood ;-) [19:32] Is it your Birfday today? [19:33] * sbalneav slides LaserJock a pale amber carbonated beverage [19:33] Happy birthday! [19:33] HAPPY BDAY ! [19:33] yeah, I'm feeling old today [19:34] All in favour of voting LaserJock a Fine Upstanding Citizen, and Capital Fellow, vote now! [19:34] ++ [19:35] yeah, exactly what I thought ;-p [19:40] ++ [19:47] LaserJock: Happy bday! *hands LJ another beer to doublefist* [19:47] does one even need a client with this? [19:47] Moonstorm: with Edubuntu? [19:47] wireless usb to vga adapter? [19:48] wouldn't one be able to open a session on the server? [19:48] http://www.cablestogo.com/product.asp?cat_id=1525&sku=29572&cm_mmc_o=HC4zbkCjC8bywkwll%20JmP%20VyBFB%20C%20niiovvvoCjCW-CjCW- [19:49] nm, it appears that may only be one display at a time, ie login at a time [20:58] local usb works? no? [20:59] i was thinking i saw this a while ago [20:59] EeyoreJr: You can mount usb sticks, drives, and cdroms yes. [21:02] wacom tablets? [21:17] nubae: hi. i'm setting up fatclient in dhcpd.conf. i have a question [21:17] host fatclient1 { [21:17] hardware ethernet the:thin:client:mac:add:ress; [21:17] fixed-address 192.168.0.2; [21:17] } [21:17] i assume that i must enter a line "hardware ethernet mac_addres;" for each client [21:18] the fixed-address line, requires me to enter an ip for each client as well? [21:18] and "host fatclient1, 2, 3, for each client? [21:18] EeyoreJr: make new sections for new client [21:18] so every client has a host section [21:19] so, host fatclient2, fatclient2, etc. [21:20] like this: http://pastebin.com/m4d584740 [21:21] Eghie: great, awesome, and thx [21:21] no problem [21:22] nubae: script also has thin clients in his script. do i need to setup the thin clients as well or allow them to do it on thier own ? [21:23] er, will the thin clients continue to function on thier own [21:28] ifconfig shows the address of the server mac address, not the local [21:30] hmm, LTSP uses Bash scripts to configure the client, guess it's very adaptable to customizations [21:34] what is kiwi-ltsp ? [21:35] my hardy APT doesn't even know kiwi-ltsp [21:36] don't have access to Intrepid at the moment though [21:39] so, don't know [21:44] EeyoreJr: kiki-ltsp is openSUSE's LTSP implementation [21:44] ah. ok [21:45] how does one find the address of the thin client in ubuntu ltsp? [21:45] EeyoreJr: of a currentlly connected on? [21:46] yes [21:46] I'm not a LTSP guy so I'm not much help [21:46] for example, i'm on a thin client now. if i do ifconfig or lspci i get the server info [21:46] but does ip a in a terminal give anything useful? [21:46] ah, i wondered [21:48] EeyoreJr: can you do a Ctrl-Alt-F1 and get to a virtual console [21:48] I think those are supposed to be on the client [21:49] ctl-alt-f1 gets me a virtual console but won't allow login [21:49] hrm [21:50] I think you need to set a root password in the chroot [21:50] and then you can log in as root on your client [22:45] http://doc.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/edubuntu/handbook/C/ - is this document current? [22:45] no [22:45] grr [22:46] I think it was updated for Gutsy [22:46] ITalC is a gui for machine management where sayabon is a gui for user management [22:46] right [22:46] is there a current up to date document? [22:46] sbalneav is working on one, one sec [22:46] i've noticed this as well pessulus [22:47] EeyoreJr: http://www.ltsp.org/~sbalneav/LTSPManual.html [22:47] EeyoreJr: what is the problem? [22:48] i'm trying to locate the mac addresses for the thin clients [22:48] ifconfig and ip and lspci show the server info === ogra_ is now known as ogra [22:50] nm, u answered it in the other forum [22:50] EeyoreJr: arp -n | grep $LTSP_CLIENT [22:50] DHCPREQUEST for 10.2.2.41 from 00:e0:b8:30:f5:5c via eth1: wrong network ... r others attempting to connect ? [23:03] the doc covers sabayon, but not Pessulus? is pessulus [23:04] EeyoreJr: is pessulus ... ? [23:12] integrated? [23:13] nm. i see this is a draft [23:13] i'll work around it and figure it out [23:15] sabayon are related but different programs [23:15] sabayon is more of a profile editor [23:15] where pessulus is a lockdown editor [23:16] pessulus doesn't do as much, but I think it does what it does better [23:16] sabayon tends to not be as stable [23:32] pessulus does better than sabayon? it sounds as though they provide different functions [23:32] doesn't ubuntu have a lockdown editor? [23:33] A fatal error has occurred. You can help us fix the problem by sending the log in /root/sabayon-debug-log.conf to http://bugzilla.gnome.org [23:33] well, i'm hungry. it's qutting time