[00:02] <xp-killer> kmess not showing what music im listen to no more,how to fix this?
[00:07] <erland> Hi, really simple question here hopefully: I'm trying to install KDE 4 on Ubuntu 8.10 - looks like the way you're supposed to do that is through the kubuntu-desktop meta package, but when I try that, it conflicts with displayconfig-gtk and guidance-backends - I don't want to lose my nice automatic monitor set-up & detection under Gnome... what can I do?
[00:09] <Pest> hi all
[00:10] <Pest> anyone here use AWN manager ?
[00:11] <xp-killer> kmess not showing what music im listen to no more,how to fix this?
[00:11] <Pest> i want to change the settings but it show inactive
[00:11] <xp-killer> kmess(msn) not showing what music im listen to no more,how to fix this?
[00:21] <Mojo_risin> whenever I try to record an audio cd with k3b, I get an error when starting the second track:
[00:22] <Mojo_risin> Cdrecord has no permission to open the device
[00:22] <Mojo_risin> any ideas?
[00:23] <Mojo_risin> 0  dev='/dev/scd0'     rwrw-- : 'MATSHITA' 'UJ-845D'
[00:25] <Mojo_risin> I tried to change the permissions of /dev/scd0 but they are reset each time i insert a new cd
[00:29] <erland> help please? Kubuntu-desktop conflicts with displayconfig-gtk - what can I do???
[00:29] <Dashkal> *sigh* the 180 beta nvidia driver did in fact fix the parts-of-my-screen-blanking when running eclipse bug... and of course it borked anti-aliasing
[00:49] <DaSkreech> oscarinabox: hiya
[00:50] <oscarinabox> hey
[00:50] <oscarinabox> trying to get this network printer to work
[00:50] <oscarinabox> and this wireless usb adapter
[00:50] <DaSkreech> Ahhh Wireless!
[00:50]  * DaSkreech flees
[00:51] <DaSkreech> !wifi | /me throws this at oscarinabox
[00:51] <DaSkreech> Curses :)
[00:51] <oscarinabox> i dont think it detects this adapter
[00:56] <oscarinabox> i need to upgrade open office to 3.0
[00:58] <DaSkreech> oscarinabox: No upgrade
[00:58] <DaSkreech> Install yes. Upgrade No
[01:01] <alesan> hye, how was to install KDE3.x on kubuntu 8.10 ??
[01:01] <alesan> there is an alternate repository for it right?
[01:01] <DaSkreech> alesan: You can do it in a unsuppoted manner
[01:01] <alesan> I really need to go back to KDE I hate gnome
[01:01] <DaSkreech> http://apt.pearsoncomputing.com
[01:01] <alesan> DaSkreech, thanks
[01:01] <DaSkreech> alesan: Kubuntu provides KDE :)
[01:02] <alesan> DaSkreech, Address Not Found
[01:02] <SilentDis> hello.  Odd one here.  I have a DVD with both UDF and ISO sets (the new Wrath of the Litch King Expansion for World of Warcraft).  Ubuntu auto mounted it as UDF (for mac).  what filesystem am I looking to mount this on?
[01:02] <chiefwigms> holla - can anyone help me w/ compiling the kernel on 8.04.1
[01:03] <chiefwigms> ?
[01:03] <chiefwigms> i'm followin this guide
[01:03] <chiefwigms> http://www.howtoforge.com/kernel_compilation_ubuntu
[01:03] <alesan> DaSkreech, latest kubuntu provides a Vista-like thing, I want KDE3 :(
[01:03] <DaSkreech> http://apt.pearsoncomputing.net
[01:03] <alesan> DaSkreech, the address you gave me is not correct... do you have a better one?
[01:03] <DaSkreech> SilentDis: iso9660
[01:04] <SilentDis> DaSkreech: i thought i tried that... let me give it another go...
[01:04] <DaSkreech> chiefwigms: Why do you need to compile the kernel?
[01:04] <DaSkreech> SilentDis: Oh wait. DVD. No DVD is UDF
[01:04] <chiefwigms> i got a umpc that has an alps pointer and i wanna disable touch tapping
[01:04] <chiefwigms> which can't be done via xorg.conf :(
[01:04] <SilentDis> DaSkreech: ahhh, thank you :)
[01:05] <DaSkreech> chiefwigms: I really don't think that you need a new kernel for that
[01:05] <self> http://tinyurl.com/249rjg
[01:05] <self> Probably not.
[01:05] <chiefwigms> guides said i needed to modify the alps.c file
[01:05] <DaSkreech> Which guides?
[01:06] <self> http://tinyurl.com/249rjg
[01:07] <chiefwigms> on a umpc forum
[01:07] <chiefwigms> http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/11/15/fixing-my-alps-touchpad-with-the-synaptics-driver/
[01:07] <chiefwigms> granted its old
[01:07] <chiefwigms> but i tried that and it still doesn't work
[01:09] <lapte> does enybody have cedega?
[01:10] <DaSkreech> Possibly. Is there another question?
[01:10] <lapte> ya i can`t make it work on mounted cd
[01:14] <draik> How can I get VirtualBox to work with the new kernel?
[01:15] <DaSkreech> draik: Install the vboxdrv
[01:15] <dresnu> hello all, is there a way to stop a kernel module which is in use?
[01:15] <draik> E: Couldn't find package vboxdrv
[01:16] <DaSkreech> dresnu: modprobe -r
[01:16] <DaSkreech> draik: man modprobe
[01:16] <dresnu> I knew that
[01:16] <dresnu> but it says error: module is in use
[01:17] <SilentDis> OK, i got it.  the full command to get to the files is sudo mount -t udf -o ro,unhide,uid=1000 /dev/cd_drive /media/whatever :)
[01:17] <DaSkreech> dresnu: lsmod to see which module depends on it
[01:17] <SilentDis> apparently, they throw it into hidden, which windows ignores but mac (and linux) respects.
[01:17] <dresnu> I want to stop usbcore, I have already stopped others that depend on it from lsmod at least
[01:17] <DaSkreech> remove that module first
[01:18] <SilentDis> another thing to add to the bag 'o tricks.  -o unhide.  thanks all!
[01:18] <dresnu> I need to stop usbcore, no other module that depends on it is running and I have nothing attached to a usb port
[01:18] <dresnu> but still it doesn't let me remove it
[01:27] <clocksys> on kde4 what happened to multiple time zones from the task bar time ?
[01:30] <Dr_willis> I cent even figure out how to get the clock to be 12 hr format.. :)
[01:35] <dresnu> is anybody else having some problems with fonts in qt3 applications in kde4?
[01:37] <draik> DaSkreech:
[01:37] <draik> sudo modprobe vboxdrv
[01:37] <draik> FATAL: Module vboxdrv not found.
[01:38] <Dr_willis> reinstall the vbox module package?
[01:39] <DaSkreech> Dr_willis: What's the name of the vbox module package again?
[01:39] <Dr_willis> no idea :)  lets see
[01:39] <Dr_willis> !find virtualbox
[01:40]  * Dr_willis pokes the bot
[01:40] <draik> Running "sudo invoke-rc.d dkms_autoinstaller start" shows vboxdrv failed
[01:40] <draik> !botsnack
[01:40] <draik> !find virtualbox
[01:40] <draik> Freeloading bot...
[01:41] <Dr_willis> virtualbox-ose - x86 virtualization solution - binaries
[01:41] <Dr_willis> perhaps?
[01:43] <draik> Installing virtualbox-ose removes virtualbox
[01:44] <Dr_willis> Hmm..
[01:44] <Dr_willis> how did ya install virtualbox in the first place?
[01:44] <draik> Hardy... don't recall
[01:45] <Dr_willis> dident  download/install the packages from the vbox homepage eh? you used the pacakge manager?
[01:46] <draik> Sounds about right.
[01:46] <draik> Right now, it won't launch
[01:50] <DaSkreech> draik: then you need to go back to the site and get the new one
[01:51] <draik> Ok
[01:52] <Dr_willis> You dont recall going to the virtualbvox homepage and downloading a package from it? :)
[01:56] <draik> No :(
[01:56] <lucax> does anyone know how to let maximized windows cover the kicker on kde4?
[01:59] <DaSkreech> lucax: Install KDE 4.2 ?
[02:00] <lucax> yeah
[02:09] <DaSkreech> oscarinabox: Got it?
[02:10] <lucax> my kicker is always on top! cant use fullscreen for watching movies or photos... any ideas wheres that option?
[02:11] <killer_> how do I edit the menu on Intrepid? I need to right-click to see the path of some items, why is this gone?
[02:11] <Dr_willis> You mean 'on kde 4.xx' ?
[02:11] <oscarinabox> wireless?
[02:11] <oscarinabox> not yet
[02:12] <Dr_willis> My wireless works :P
[02:12] <killer_> Dr_willis: I have installed Kubuntu 8.10 (Intrepid)
[02:12] <oscarinabox> i only needed to use it because the network cable for my xbox was eated by my dogs
[02:12] <oscarinabox> :P
[02:12] <killer_> I cannot find the menu editor
[02:12] <DaSkreech> oscarinabox: OO.o 3
[02:13] <Dr_willis> alacarte i think used tobe the name of the menu editror.. the menu items are generated from the .desktop files stores somewhere on the system also..
[02:13] <mghohoo> hi,everybody
[02:13] <Dr_willis> but with kde4 a lot of things have changed
[02:14] <draik> Dr_willis: So it seems that I got it from the download.
[02:15] <killer_> Dr_willis: well alot has become unusable, when I used to pick a default application on Kubuntu prior to 8.10, I could choose from a display of the applications menu, but now, I have to figure out the full path to the app I want to use
[02:15] <Dr_willis> draik,  then every time theres a kernel update.. you will need to reinsatll it.
[02:15] <draik> :(
[02:15] <DaSkreech> !hi
[02:15] <Dr_willis> draik,  you were the one that got it from the download.. instead of the repos.
[02:15] <killer_> !menu
[02:15] <DaSkreech> killer_: are you using kickoff or the old Kde3 menu ?
[02:16] <draik> Dr_willis: I know.  Oh well.  I can live with it.
[02:16] <killer_> me neither kubotu :)
[02:16] <DaSkreech> !kickoff
[02:16] <DaSkreech> :-)
[02:16] <DaSkreech> THat needs to be changed
[02:16] <DaSkreech> No idea what to though
[02:17] <Dragnslcr> Looks like it's the astoundly appropriately named kmenuedit
[02:20]  * DaSkreech wants 6 more people to login
[02:21] <killer_> I don't find a "kickoff" package installed
[02:22] <killer_> DaSkreech: I guess kickoff.. this is a full/fresh off the CD install of Kubuntu 8.10
[02:22] <liu> hello
[02:25] <xp-killer> killer_: YO
[02:25] <corigo> Trouble with plasmoids... can't get the whole clock to display in the task bar. Other icons keep covering it. Doesn't matter how many other plasmoids I add or remove the clock simply won't portion itself enough space. Please help
[02:25] <killer_> xp-killer: YO
[02:26] <killer_> DaSkreech: all these changes are reminding me of why I never like to use gnome
[02:26] <killer_> Dr_willis: I found menu editor
[02:26] <killer_> right-click the K(gear) button..
[02:27] <DaSkreech> killer_: I thought that's what you were doing from the start and it wasn't there :-P
[02:28] <killer_> DaSkreech: no.. I was right-clicking on the item I want to see the command path of..
[02:28] <killer_> DaSkreech: no use anyhow.. there is no path on anything
[02:31] <Dr_willis> if you know the name of the executable.. you could  use the locate/find/which command...
[02:33] <killer_> Dr_willis: I just dig it out of the installed file list from synaptic after doing search
[02:33] <killer_> long way to go about such a simple task
[02:35] <Dragnslcr> If the full path isn't in the menu entry, the program is in your PATH environment variable
[02:35] <Dragnslcr> Most normal programs are in /usr/bin
[02:36] <DaSkreech> killer_: What?
[02:36] <DaSkreech> killer_: If you know the name of the command you can find where it is with the command "which"
[02:36] <DaSkreech> as in which kmail
[02:36] <DaSkreech> which ping
[02:36] <DaSkreech> which cat
[02:37] <Dr_willis> which way is wich?
[02:37] <Dr_willis> Which Witch is which?
[02:37] <killer_> DaSkreech: yes.. but most things I have to find the command by checking the keyword search for the package and then see what it installed
[02:38] <DaSkreech> which hazel
[02:38] <DaSkreech> killer_: most of them are sensibly named. I've only found 4 or 5 that I really would have had no clue what the command name is
[02:41] <killer_> so after I get the new Kubuntu all tweaked with packages installed, how do I make an install script to duplicate this to another PC?
[02:42] <Dr_willis> !clone
[02:42] <Dr_willis> 'tweaking' is another issue entirely
[02:44] <DaSkreech> !perfect tweak
[02:44] <DaSkreech> damn
[02:45]  * Dr_willis tweaks his dogs nose.
[02:49] <PSiL0> how can I have the advance window settings override a setting from desktop effects?
[02:49] <PSiL0>  I tried to set one application to have its windows not be translucent upon inactivation, while desktop settings is set to 90%
[02:50] <PSiL0> I guess this feature hasn't been ironed out yet
[02:55] <colton> Hi, I want to access another harddrive from my kubuntu, where could I find this in the file system?
[02:58] <Dr_willis> what filesystem is the other drive?
[02:59] <colton> It has windows vista installed on it, and I wanted to modify the boot device.
[02:59]  * Dr_willis forgets where kde stores all the  other drives..  is it under 'computer://' or 'system://' now?  
[02:59] <Dr_willis> or you could mount it manually whever you wanted. if you want to read/write to it . You may need to set up the ntfs-3g stuff for full acccess
[03:00] <Dr_willis> or you could install and run the 'ntfs-config' tool and let it set up the mountpoint/settings.
[03:03] <bfrog> ok, kubuntu is rocking on my ati cards
[03:03] <DaSkreech> Dr_willis: Isn't it on the sidebar for Dolphin?
[03:03] <bfrog> but... plasma doesn't show up on the second screen
[03:03] <bfrog> any ideas?
[03:03] <bfrog> works fine with stock kde, cause it worked fine on archlinux
[03:04] <Dr_willis> DaSkreech,  i hate dolphin.. so not noticed it there. :)
[03:05] <Dr_willis> My 2 windows drives are there DaSkreech  but i also have enries for them in fstab... so not sure if thats where they would appear if there were no entry
[03:05] <DaSkreech> Ah
[03:07]  * Dr_willis always rembers to enter the mountpoints  for his ntfs partitions in the ubuntu installer...
[03:09] <shovi12> i/o error cannot boot :\
[03:09] <cameri> hello
[03:09] <cameri> i'm using kde 4.1, and desktop effects don't work
[03:10] <cameri> i have them enabled
[03:10] <JediatNight> cameri: are you using compiz ?
[03:10] <cameri> but for example, i've got flip switch enabled, and when i press alt+tab, it doesn't work
[03:10] <cameri> JediatNight: nope, i uninstalled it
[03:10] <cameri> it makes my screen become white
[03:11] <cameri> forever, i have to re-install if that happens
[03:11] <cameri> unless there's a way to reset my settings
[03:11] <concernedcitizen> how can I find the gid of a particular group in kubuntu?
[03:11] <JediatNight> I use compiz without any problems whatsoever and the effects are great..
[03:12] <DaSkreech> concernedcitizen: grep groupname /etc/groups
[03:12] <JediatNight> probably it can be somethign to do with graphics card?
[03:12] <DaSkreech> cameri: What video card do you have?
[03:12] <cameri> nVidea geforce 8600 gt
[03:12] <JediatNight> i have nvidia 8400 gs
[03:14] <cameri> ill install it
[03:14] <cameri> hopefully it wont fk everything up again
[03:14] <g_> hey
[03:15] <g_> Im trying to configure firefox to be able to watch an mpeg-4 stream but for some reason it wont find any plug-ins Im in intrepid with kubuntu
[03:15] <g_> there is no way to uninstall any plugins either
[03:15] <g_> what gives?
[03:15] <Dr_willis> got a url to the stream>
[03:15] <Dr_willis> I will test it here.
[03:16] <g_> ahh dont have it its on a private network
[03:16] <concernedcitizen> anybody managed to get usb working in virtualbox ?
[03:16] <bfrog> can I run the latest svn kde on kubuntu as my main desktop? I think kde that kubuntu came with might be a bit buggy...
[03:16] <g_> yesterday it asked me to whether i wanted to install a plug to handle video codecs in firefox
[03:16] <g_> like an idiot i chose zine
[03:16] <g_> xine**
[03:16] <Dr_willis> If you install the other firefox plugins i think they will override that one.
[03:17] <g_> i have installed the vlc one
[03:17] <g_> it doesnt even show up
[03:17] <Dr_willis> I normally  install kubuntu-restricted-extras (or ubuntu restricted extras) and use gmplayer  plugin
[03:18] <g_> do you use adept or the synaptics?
[03:18] <Dr_willis> I tend to just apt-get install the stuff.. :)
[03:18] <Dr_willis> i see there is a .......
[03:18] <g_> ok i found it in adept
[03:18] <g_> gotcha
[03:18] <Dr_willis> mozilla-plugin-vlc - multimedia plugin for web browsers based on VLC
[03:19] <g_> i installed that one already
[03:19] <DaSkreech> bfrog: sure
[03:19] <g_> it doesnt show up on the firefox plugins list
[03:19] <Dr_willis> cant say that ive ever Looked in the plugins list. :)
[03:19] <kyle__> are there any ways to get "FREE" music on ubuntu?
[03:19] <g_> how would you uninstall a plugin in firefox?
[03:19] <chiefwigms> so apparently while compiling the kernel i ran out of space
[03:20] <JediatNight> you can use google to search
[03:20] <chiefwigms> can i use a usb drive to compile it on?
[03:20] <DaSkreech> kyle__: Amarok.
[03:20] <kyle__> whats armarok
[03:20] <DaSkreech> !amarok
[03:21] <Dr_willis> mplayer plugin shows up here in the firefox addons list...
[03:21] <g_> I can't find anything on the internet about how to uninstall a plugin on firefox that isnt old or that doesnt have to do with one for windows
[03:21] <Dr_willis> g_,  if you installed it via the package manager.. you remove it via the package manager
[03:21] <g_> all i have is xine and i cant choose anything else
[03:22] <kyle__> you could have just told me "sudo apt-get install amarok"..
[03:22] <Dr_willis> You dident ask how to isntall it. :)
[03:23] <DaSkreech> kyle__: Didn't know if you wanted it.
[03:23] <kyle__> how do i get music on it?
[03:23] <g_> Dr_willis thanks man for the info
[03:23] <Dr_willis> Theres other ways to get 'free' music also.. but it depends on what your eally want...
[03:23] <Dr_willis> amarok can tune in free streams
[03:23] <g_> to get free music this is what you do, go to youtube and find any music you want
[03:24] <oscarinabox> last.fm :D
[03:24] <g_> then get the firefox download video helper
[03:24] <oscarinabox> pandora :d
[03:24] <oscarinabox> dizzler :D
[03:24] <g_> download the youtube video and then get a video converter and convert it from flv to mp3
[03:24] <oscarinabox> mininova :D :D :D :D :D
[03:24] <kyle__> mininova is all viruses i hate torrents!
[03:24] <g_> you dont even have to do it illegally you can do it legally off of youtube
[03:25] <Dr_willis> cant say that ive gotten too many viruses for  my linux box from  torrents.. :)
[03:25] <kyle__> ill just stick to firefox downloader
[03:25]  * Dr_willis jams to last.fm on amarok
[03:25] <buckethead> 'all viruses'? I haven't seen a virus in months. What the heck are you downloading?
[03:25] <chiefwigms> anyone know hwo to specify another drive for storage when compiling?
[03:26] <DaSkreech> buckethead: Viruses obviously
[03:26] <kyle__> file:///home/kyle/Desktop/Tay_Zonday_Chocolate_Rain.mp3
[03:26] <kyle__> is that a virus?
[03:26] <kyle__> chocolate rain sounds like a virus..
[03:26]  * DaSkreech laughs
[03:27] <kyle__> OMG
[03:27] <buckethead> Hes an award winning you tuber
[03:28] <chiefwigms> lol
[03:28] <chiefwigms> its amazing!@
[03:28] <kyle__> you can find people Ip from right clicking there name and click "WhoIs"
[03:28] <da> if this works , my email works, right?
[03:28] <buckethead> and probably the next r kelly.
[03:28] <DaSkreech> da: huh?
[03:29] <kyle__> [22:28] [Whois] da is n=da@tx-67-77-72-233.dyn.embarqhsd.net (doswell conner)
[03:29] <kyle__> haha
[03:29] <kyle__> i found "da"'s IP
[03:29] <buckethead> Note: If you name a song after what I do to the toilet after a visit to Cici's pizza, I'm going to compare you to R Kelly.
[03:29] <da> wow, and thank you...
[03:29] <cameri> yay i enabled it again
[03:30] <kyle__> cameri
[03:30] <cameri> yes?
[03:30] <kyle__> does the word "codetel.net" remind you of anything?
[03:30] <cameri> yep
[03:30] <cameri> why?
[03:30] <cameri> its my ISP
[03:30] <kyle__> is it your internet provider or something like that?
[03:30] <cameri> Codetel yeah
[03:30] <kyle__> haha
[03:30] <cameri> why?
[03:30] <kyle__> sweet
[03:31] <kyle__> right click  somebodies name then click "Who Is?"
[03:31] <cameri> n=kyle@adsl-71-156-81-111.dsl.ipltin.sbcglobal.net (kyle morgan)
[03:31] <buckethead> kyle__: Did you used to be named Jeff K?
[03:31] <kyle__> nope
[03:31] <kyle__> never heard of Jeff K
[03:31] <cameri> man, thats old stuff..
[03:31] <cameri> i thought u were from here too
[03:32] <kyle__> lol
[03:32] <kyle__> bucketheads ISP is
[03:32] <kyle__> liike
[03:33] <kyle__> mc.at.cox.net
[03:33] <buckethead> Smart man.
[03:34] <buckethead> Go fight the R Kelly virus, haha.
[03:35] <oscarinabox> is there a way to add another workspace to gnome?
[03:35] <buckethead> !gnome
[03:35] <oscarinabox> .....
[03:35] <buckethead> Eh, That wasn't what I wanted it to do.
[03:35] <buckethead> Check in #gnome
[03:35] <oscarinabox> hahahaw
[03:35] <oscarinabox> hahahha*
[03:39] <DaSkreech> oscarinabox: right click the pager
[03:39] <DaSkreech> I think
[03:40] <Dr_willis> If using compiz - you must use the ccsm tool
[03:40] <Dr_willis> to add desktops.
[03:42] <DaSkreech> Dr_willis: Wasn't there some shortcut key? I recall being able to deform the Cube on the fly
[03:46] <Dr_willis> I rarely mess with the cube. :)
[03:46] <Dr_willis> actually i rarely mess with compiz.. I still ahve too many issues with it.
[03:47] <binMonkey> can we use overseas wireless cards in the us?
[03:48] <Dr_willis> cant say taht ive ever heard of any differacnes in them binMonkey
[03:48] <buckethead> Depends on what portion of the spectrum they use, and your service provider.
[03:48] <Dr_willis> I guess  the fcc may have some issues with doing that..  but are not the wirless b/g/whatever standards world wide standards?
[03:49] <buckethead> Oh.. Wireless = 802.11 or wireless = cellular data cards
[03:49] <binMonkey> i don't know.  these thing are edimax cards and all use ralink drivers.
[03:50] <buckethead> Just make sure you only use channels permitted in the us. Or don't, That might be a great way to hide your wireless network (not sure about that.)
[03:51] <cameri> you can use any wireless card
[03:51] <cameri> even those made overseas
[03:52] <binMonkey> right on.  thanks, guys.
[03:52] <cameri> the 802.11 is a world-wide standard
[03:52] <cameri> and so are most of the IEEE standards
[03:53]  * Dr_willis wonders if theres an IEEE standard on IEEE standards...
[03:53] <Dr_willis> :)
[03:53]  * Dr_willis bets there is...
[03:54] <buckethead> IEEE 1 - IETF Technical Standards
[03:54] <buckethead> (Just kidding.)
[03:54]  * binMonkey just bought an edimax card.  w00t!
[03:55] <buckethead> If I had an overseas router, and I set it to ch 12.. Would my US hardware be able to link up to it? US not supporting Ch 12-14 and all..
[03:55] <bfrog> why are the kubuntu servers so slow...
[03:55] <bfrog> 50kbps ?
[03:55] <bfrog> what is this... 1998?
[03:55] <Dr_willis> It may get interfearance in any case..  so you proberly dont want to use ch 12
[03:57] <buckethead> Yeah, I'm not sure whats up in that portion of the spectrum.
[03:57] <Dr_willis> Proberly Microwave ovens.. :)
[03:58] <Dr_willis> and Brain Control devices
[03:59] <buckethead> Lets not transfer pr0n on the same freq as the CIAs black devices!
[04:01] <cameri> oh sry it was me
[04:01] <cameri> ill pause the pr0n
[04:03] <buckethead> LOL.
[04:03] <buckethead> Hmm, Thats interesting.
[04:03] <buckethead> It says 'radio location'
[04:03] <buckethead> That explains the buzzing I was just getting in my butt - It was interfering with the implant!
[04:08] <bfrog> can I switch mirrors for packages somehow?
[04:09] <bfrog> us.archive.ubuntu.org is like... just above my 1998 dsl in speed, seriously
[04:09] <bfrog> like 40kbps
[04:09] <h00k> bfrog: check out the Software Sorces program
[04:09] <h00k> bfrog: under Applications -> System
[04:10] <h00k> then there's a "Download from" dropdown
[04:10] <bfrog> adept you mean?
[04:11] <h00k> bfrog: Yeah...actually, it's there too
[04:11] <bfrog> well I don't have software sources or whatever
[04:11] <h00k> bfrog: Adept, Edit Software Sources
[04:12] <h00k> bfrog: yeah, sorry about that, for some reason I have ubuntu's "Software Sources" (came as a dependancy for some GTK program probably)
[04:13] <bfrog> I do find best server but it doesn't tell me which one it was...
[04:13] <bfrog> ah well, I'll figure it out
[04:13] <bfrog> thanks
[04:14] <bfrog> yeah, wow
[04:14] <bfrog> the kernel.org mirror rocks as always
[04:14] <h00k> bfrog: no prob.  Hope that helped
[04:17] <bfrog> nm
[04:17] <bfrog> easynews even better
[04:17] <bfrog> finally, 300kbps, 10x faster...
[04:42] <knewuser> i see black background on my system try icons on kde4, can i change that?
[04:57] <dwidmann> Okay, that was just plain weird.
[04:58] <dwidmann> I'm running amarok(the latest 2.0 beta) on intrepid. When I started gparted to do some partitioning (kdesudo gparted), amarok crashed with SIGABRT, I restarted it and all was fine. I finish what I'm doing in gparted and click apply, amarok crashes again with the same signal.
[04:58] <dwidmann> Weird.
[04:59] <sandy_> I need to find BISS forum's IRC CHANNEL
[04:59] <binMonkey> dwidmann: how do you know what the signal was?  how do i find that out when something crashses?
[05:00] <dwidmann> binMonkey: well, it gave me the little "application has crashed" sort of window
[05:00] <cadaverpimp> How can I have 56MB of nothing in a rar file?
[05:00] <binMonkey> oh.  maybe i should pay attention to those.
[05:01] <dwidmann> binMonkey: if you have the appropriate debugging symbols packages installed, you can even grab the full backtrace from that window.
[05:03] <binMonkey> dwidmann: man.  i wouldn't even know how to start doing that.  that's another thing i've written down now to learn about.
[05:05] <dwidmann> binMonkey: it's really not complicated, the debugging symbols packages are usually named something like applicationname-dbg. If the program is a part of a larger set (ie: one source package makes many application packages), it would be the sourcepackagesname-dbg (ie: kdebase-dbg)
[05:07] <dwidmann> Well, I'll be back in a bit, I think I'm going to try out PC-BSD
[05:18] <White_Pelican> hi, is there another editor for music files besides audacity?
[05:24] <mwilson_> anyone compile Openoffice 3 yet?
[05:32] <snarkster> howdy all
[05:38] <walbert> is it normal for a fresh install of kubuntu 8.10 to use ~ 25-30% cpu between plasma/Xorg/an open dolphin window?
[05:40] <DaSkreech> CPU? no
[05:40] <DaSkreech> assuming you don't have some ridiculous CPU
[05:41] <szrhawaii> anyone know what the irc # for adium is
[05:41] <snarkster> i put kubuntu 8.10 on my wifes new eeepc.. she loves it
[05:41] <szrhawaii> or if theres a room for that
[05:41] <walbert> it's nothing too great, just a pentium m 2ghz
[05:42] <snarkster> she took it to work and showed it off like a ring or a new purse..
[05:42] <szrhawaii> need adium help does anyone know the chat # so i can get there
[05:43] <snarkster> if she puts it in powersave mode, itll run for 6 hours. can you believe that 6 freaking hours.
[05:44] <szrhawaii> hello
[05:44] <szrhawaii> anyone home
[05:44] <szrhawaii> adium help
[05:44] <snarkster> yah, but i cant help you
[05:44] <szrhawaii> anyone know the # to get to that phone line
[05:45] <szrhawaii> ok gotta a problem anyone know anything about how and what programs work best for webcams on kubuntu
[05:45] <szrhawaii> for pidgin messenger
[05:46] <walbert> szrhawaii:  try asking in #pidgin
[05:46] <szrhawaii> thanks
[05:46] <szrhawaii> #adium
[05:46] <snarkster> pidgin doesnt work with webcams
[05:46] <walbert> that's what I thought
[05:46] <szrhawaii> what messenger does
[05:46] <snarkster> version 3 IIRC
[05:46] <szrhawaii> do you know
[05:46] <snarkster> kopete
[05:46] <szrhawaii> it does are you sure
[05:46] <szrhawaii> whats the plugin for that
[05:47] <snarkster> i dont know the plugin.. i know that kopete works with it Ive used it
[05:47] <snarkster> im using pidgin now cause kopete on kde4.1.2 doesnt have all the plugins i want
[05:47] <szrhawaii> what version did you download
[05:47] <szrhawaii> the kde 4 or kde 3.5
[05:48] <snarkster> the one that came wih kubuntu 8.10
[05:48] <h00k> Kopete has it enabled already (webcam) as long as you have the drivers for your camera.  For some reason, though, kopete doesn't show my webcam to my contacts (they don't see that I have one)
[05:48] <h00k> but when I configure it, it's there, I see myself, etc.
[05:49] <snarkster> i believe they must use kopete as well.
[05:49] <h00k> ...that doesn't makse sense, over the MSN protocol
[05:49] <h00k> well, I mean
[05:49] <h00k> It may make sense
[05:49] <h00k> but...it "shouldn't" be that way
[05:49] <snarkster> i totally agree, but you never know
[05:49] <DaSkreech> No I've seen it work with Yahoo and Kopete
[05:50] <szrhawaii> so do they have to use msn in order to see it
[05:50] <h00k> ^.^
[05:50] <szrhawaii> will that work
[05:50] <h00k> yeah, no firewall problems (my university doesn't block anything)
[05:50] <h00k> so...it "should" work
[05:50] <h00k> unless I have to open some ones on my box here to get it to work
[05:53] <VanessaE> DaSkreech, figured out the printer issue - kde's printer setup util botched the config file.  restored it from cupsd.conf.default and it's fine now.
[05:54] <DaSkreech> VanessaE: Hoorah! :)
[05:55] <VanessaE> now I'm fighting with scanner permissions
[05:55] <VanessaE> (root can access it, but I as a user can't)
[05:55] <snarkster> add yourself to the scanner group
[05:56] <VanessaE> already did that (and logged out/in)
[05:56] <nick_> Does anyone have any idea why when I select a particular app from the taskbar ALL of the windows for that process don't come to the front?
[05:57] <nick_> most noticeable with gimp, but I've seen it elsewhere. Particularly with input dialogs...
[05:57] <VanessaE> nick: it depends on the 'hints' that the coder has set
[05:57] <nick_> it's annoying as all get out:)
[05:57] <VanessaE> plus your desktop might not be set to group things together
[05:57] <nick_> how would one set it to group things?
[05:57] <VanessaE> (mine is explicitly set to do what you hate ;-) )
[05:58] <nick_> out of curiosity: Why would you want it that way? it's rather easy to completely lose password dialogs and the like. Is there a cool shortcut or something that gets you back to those?
[06:01] <VanessaE> nevermind - it corrected itself by turning the printer off/on (maybe HAL had to re-detect it?)
[06:02] <VanessaE> nick: sometimes I don't need to see 99 different dialogs if I'm only focused on one specific one.
[06:02] <VanessaE> otherwise, no, I have to hunt
[06:02] <VanessaE> but then again, I'm no power user - it's not often that I have more than 5 or so windows open anyway
[06:03] <nick_> I'm not even sure how to hunt those down tho. Alt-tab doesn't solve it. If I minimize all windows when I bring the app back up the dialogs are still gone
[06:03] <nick_> I have to maximize everything and sort of manually move windows around until I find it:)
[06:04] <VanessaE> Well I also have my taskbar set not to group anything
[06:04] <snarkster> the dialogs arent gone they are behind the main window
[06:04] <VanessaE> so even little stuff like the "run program" dialog shows up down there
[06:05] <DaSkreech> nick_: ctrl+F9 ?
[06:06] <snarkster> ok im out
[06:06] <snarkster> night
[06:06] <nick_> ctrl + f9 does work.... but its still definitely not the behavior I want
[06:07] <nick_> I want all of a apps windows brought to the foreground when the app itself is selected. Either that or EVERY window to have a presence on the taskbar
[06:07] <nick_> which would suck, but at least I could get to what I'm looking for
[06:07] <nick_> it just seems dumb to me that an app can put up a modal dialog that is then gone when brought back to the foreground
[06:19] <fatmonkey64> ???
[06:24] <DaSkreech> !!
[06:25] <DaSkreech> nick_: Depends on the app I would suppose
[06:25] <DaSkreech> nick_: In any case you can press ctrl+F9 and type the name of the dialog to quiklyget to it
[06:32] <Pyles17> my intel 3945 wireless card doesn't work, i have the iwlwifi-3945 microcode in /lib/firmware, I don't know what to do. can someone help?
[06:40] <navetz> guys my ffrost wire wont start
[06:40] <navetz> it says my version of java might be wrong
[06:40] <navetz> but its the latest
[06:40] <navetz> any ideas?
[06:40] <Pyles17> my intel 3945 wireless card doesn't work, i have the iwlwifi-3945 microcode in /lib/firmware, I don't know what to do. can someone help?
[06:41] <rohan> hi.. what is the difference between installing flashplugin-nonfree from the repo, and the .deb from this site - http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/
[06:41] <twylight> the repo *should* be more reliable
[06:41] <DaSkreech> navetz: May have to update alternatives
[06:41] <rohan> infact, i am on 8.04 and by installing that deb i might get flashplayer 10, when the one in repo is just 9.
[06:41] <twylight> but the .deb would be newer
[06:42] <rohan> twylight: reliable as in? even it downloads the flash player from adobe site only
[06:43] <twylight> as in more likely to work without configuration, in my experience
[06:47] <rohan> twylight: ok, i just noticed - adobe-flashplugin package in hardy repository is up to date and has the latest flash player
[06:47] <rohan> 10.0.12.36
[06:47] <twylight> ah
[06:47] <rohan> infact, the one i downloaded from adobe's page is older build
[06:47] <twylight> lol what
[06:47] <twylight> that's interesting
[06:47] <rohan> but i am surprised - everyone says that for flash you need to installed "flashplugin-nonfree" package
[06:47] <twylight> I actually haven't seen that happen in a while
[06:47] <rohan> i never thought the package is "adobe-flashplugin"
[06:48] <twylight> there are some things that freedom does not apply to
[06:48] <twylight> for everything else, there's sourceforge
[06:48] <twylight> :D
[06:49] <rohan> ah the adobe-flashplugin package is the in partner repository, not the universe/multiverse ones
[06:49] <rohan> that explains it
[06:50] <navetz> DaSkreech: where do I do that? adept?
[06:50] <twylight> !repositories
[06:53] <dwidmann> rohan: I'm not so sure about that. I thought flashplugin-nonfree just fetched whatever the current one on adobe's site was ... seeing as it doesn't actually include anything but a script to download it.
[06:54] <Pyles17> no help on the wifi? I'm sick of windows but I have to use it to access the internet most of the time. unless, of course, I'm plugged into a wall. thumbs down
[06:54] <twylight> what chipset did you say you had
[06:54] <Pyles17> intel 3945 abg Pro/Wireless
[06:55] <twylight> you are on a laptop, y/n
[06:55] <Pyles17> y
[06:55] <twylight> is it an acer?
[06:55] <rohan> dwidmann: iirc, it has a hard coded version to be downloaded, not necessarily the latest
[06:55] <h00k> Pyles17: yes, your 3945 should work
[06:56] <rohan> dwidmann: for some reason, ubuntu-backports people decided to leave flashplugin-nonfree in hardy on 9.x, and not upgrade it to 10.x
[06:56] <Pyles17> Gateway tablet. C-140 or something like that.
[06:56] <h00k> Pyles17: I've had 3945 working out of the box since 7.10
[06:56] <h00k> er 7.04
[06:56] <Pyles17> h00k: I know it should, but it doesn't
[06:56] <twylight> ah
[06:56] <Pyles17> h00k: and it doesn't work on the liveCD either
[06:56] <twylight> I'm running a similar chipset (dunno if it's the same) on an acer travelmate 290
[06:57] <dwidmann> rohan: from the flashplugin-nonfree package description, first line, "This package will download the Flash Player from Adobe.  It is a"
[06:57] <twylight> and this laptop is very kubuntu friendly
[06:57] <h00k> Pyles17: that's interesting, I really have no idea what to tell you
[06:57] <rohan> dwidmann: Version table: 10.0.1.218+10.0.0.525ubuntu1~hardy1+really9.0.124.0ubuntu2 0
[06:57] <rohan> that's what apt-cache policy says
[06:59] <Pyles17> h00k: it's all good, no one else does either.
[06:59] <h00k> my apologies.
[07:00] <Pyles17> I think it might be because it's a school-issue computer. they have a lot of the registry locked down in windows, maybe something they did messed with my ability to connect in linux
[07:00] <Pyles17> but that's a little far-fetched
[07:00] <h00k> er, yeah, cause your linux CD doesn't touch windoze registry
[07:00] <h00k> perhaps some bios setting
[07:00] <h00k> check that...
[07:01] <Pyles17> hmmm, i'm not that computer-savvy. how might one check bios settings?
[07:02] <twylight> has anyone else noticed that ultramodern laptops seem to be incompatible with anything but windows, like the bios has been crippled?
[07:02] <twylight> particularly laptops that come with vi$ta
[07:02] <h00k> Pyles17: when you first turn it on, there's some key (depending on manufacturer) that you can press (usually delete, f1, f2)
[07:02] <h00k> usually says "Enter Setup"
[07:02] <h00k> in there, you may find something
[07:02] <h00k> but be careful
[07:02] <h00k> in there
[07:02] <twylight> it's usually either f8
[07:03] <twylight> or delete
[07:03] <Pyles17> h00k: okay, i thought maybe there was a way to do it while booted
[07:03] <Pyles17> it's f10 for me
[07:03] <h00k> Pyles17: negative
[07:03] <twylight> yeah, don't change anything you don't know about offhand or you might damage something
[07:03] <Pyles17> twylight: probably, mine was made for vista, but IT put xp on it
[07:03] <twylight> and laptops are not easy to reset the bios on
[07:03] <Pyles17> I promise I will be careful
[07:03] <twylight> mine was made for XP
[07:03] <Pyles17> I'll be back
[07:04] <twylight> ok
[07:04] <twylight> I'll be here
[07:04] <h00k> Good luck Pyles17
[07:05] <twylight> think he's gonna break anything?
[07:05] <dwidmann> Probably not
[07:06] <twylight> I hope not
[07:06] <twylight> because I don't know how to help someone unbreak a bios
[07:06] <twylight> in a laptop
[07:06] <h00k> reset to defaults
[07:06] <h00k> heh.
[07:06] <h00k> if he can get online.
[07:07] <h00k> to askus how
[07:09] <twylight> with a desktop it's as simple as popping out the motherboard battery
[07:09] <twylight> and replacing it after a minute
[07:09] <twylight> usually fixesit
[07:10] <h00k> yeah, if he accidentally sets a password or something
[07:10] <h00k> otherwisehopefully he can just reset defaults if some bad shenanigins goes on
[07:10] <twylight> not if he sets a password
[07:11] <h00k> right.
[07:11] <twylight> if he does that he won't be able to get in to unset it
[07:11] <h00k> then he's gotta crack it open and find the batt or jumper
[07:11] <twylight> which is rather difficult and unpleasant with laptops
[07:11] <h00k> mm hmm
[07:12] <twylight> luckily, the acer travelmate 290 is very friendly towards linux
[07:12] <twylight> so is the old IBM thinkpad
[07:13] <h00k> Thinkpads kick @ss
[07:14] <twylight> I have one
[07:15] <twylight> I collect laptops
[07:15] <twylight> it's a habit of mine XD
[07:16] <navetz> hummm is there a good p2p application in the kubuntu repos?
[07:16] <h00k> Konversation + undernet dcc :D
[07:17] <twylight> welcome back pyles
[07:17] <Pyles17> h00k: thank you for the wishes of luck, but I found nothing
[07:17] <Pyles17> twylight: thank you
[07:19] <Pyles17> I haven't a clue. is it possible that the .ucode is in the wrong place? it's in /lib/firmware right now
[07:21] <h00k> Pyles17: noooooooooo idea. :D
[07:22] <Pyles17> h00k: ok, google time.
[07:22] <twylight> did you say you were using 8.10?
[07:22] <Pyles17> mmhmmm
[07:22] <twylight> I've always had problems with 8.10 on laptops
[07:22] <twylight> particularly when it comes to wireless functionality
[07:23] <twylight> 8.6 is better for that
[07:24] <twylight> and my hobby is putting linux on laptops
[07:24] <Ayabara> I have a kopete chat window on desktop 4, and get a system tray alert of a new message on desktop 1. When I click the notification, the window is moved to desktop 1. Is there a way I can make it switch to desktop 4 instead?
[07:24] <Pyles17> twylight: lol ok. 8.06 might be what i have to go to, i'm going to try ndiswrapper one more time
[07:24] <h00k> 8.04?
[07:25] <Pyles17> h00k: i dunno, now i'm confused
[07:25] <h00k> blah.  I have to run, I have class at 9am, its 1.25am now, need sleep.
[07:25] <h00k> Pyles17: The newest long term release is 8.04, grab that and try it
[07:26] <h00k> Pyles17: did you look at the Restricted Drivers manager?
[07:26] <Pyles17> h00k: no, but I will
[07:26] <twylight> kde 4 is ew
[07:26] <twylight> and d3lphin is ew
[07:26] <twylight> do not want :(
[07:26] <h00k> Pyles17: try sudo apt-get install restricted-manager
[07:27] <Pyles17> h00k: ok
[07:27] <twylight> restricted manager sounds like the title for an adult flick :P
[07:27] <h00k> Pyles17: then run it, perhaps it'll grab what you need
[07:28] <twylight> if not, go for the earlier release
[07:28] <Pyles17> h00k: twylight: that's what I shall do
[07:29] <twylight> it's either 8.06 or 8.04 that I'm running, I can't remember, I was pretty drunk when I did the install/download
[07:29] <h00k> dasfffgkjhgdfsa
[07:29] <h00k> 8.04
[07:29] <h00k> 8.06 does not exist
[07:29] <Pyles17> how do i go about running restricted manager?
[07:30] <twylight> h00k, are you Broderick Parkinson?
[07:30] <h00k> negative, who is that?
[07:30] <twylight> my friend's brother
[07:30] <h00k> aah, nope
[07:30] <h00k> last name is hook :)
[07:31] <twylight> you exhibit the same responses as he does
[07:31] <h00k> Pyles17: it's in..the menu somewhere, I don't remember
[07:31] <h00k> or sudo restricted-manager
[07:31] <h00k> from terminal
[07:31] <twylight> grr
[07:31] <h00k> twylight: :) I'm not sure if that's a compliment or not
[07:31] <twylight> it is
[07:31] <twylight> my download sp
[07:32] <h00k> cool. thanks:)
[07:32] <twylight> my download speeds have maxed out at only 500 kbps
[07:32] <twylight> this sucks
[07:32] <h00k> Okay, I have to sleep, class at 9am, its 1.32 am
[07:32] <twylight> usually it's 750
[07:32] <Pyles17> h00k: good night, I should do the same
[07:32] <h00k> thanks :) good luck
[07:32] <h00k> Peace
[07:32] <twylight> l8r
[07:32] <Pyles17> good bye
[07:36] <Pyles17> twylight: i forgot to mention, sometimes it actually recognizes that i have a wireless card but won't connect
[07:37] <Pyles17> twylight: and on rare occasions it connects. at which point I am tempted to leave it on forever
[07:37] <twylight> could be a bad card
[07:37] <twylight> WHAT THE HELL IS AN OCTET-STREAM
[07:37] <Pyles17> 8 musicians standing in flowing water
[07:40] <twylight> I love being able to download 11mb in 30 seconds wirelessly
[07:40] <twylight> it's like
[07:40] <twylight> yay technology
[07:41] <Pyles17> I'd say so
[07:43] <bentob0x> good morning
[07:43] <bentob0x> when I did the upgrade from 8.04 to 8.10, I lost my kopete settings
[07:45] <twylight> I'd suggest using the time machine and backing up the settings before the upgrade, but I don't think that's possible yet
[07:47] <bentob0x> is there a time machine under Kubuntu?
[07:47] <Pyles17> lol
[07:47] <bentob0x> can I go back to 1492 and tell Columbus not to kill the locals?
[07:48] <bentob0x> would be great tho
[07:48] <bentob0x> sudo timemachine -b 100 years
[07:48] <Pyles17> bentob0x: he would most likely just kill you too. but you could most certainly try
[07:49] <bentob0x> ^^
[07:49] <bentob0x> or go and watch hendrix burning his guitar live
[07:49] <Pyles17> yes please
[07:50] <twylight> that's offtopiclol
[07:51] <Pyles17> twylight: what if i use the old driver from intel. the one they say is "deprecated" and shouldn't be used?
[07:52] <twylight> you might void a warranty that doesn't exist, and it might actually work, or maybe it'll just stay broken
[07:52] <twylight> not like it can get much wors
[07:52] <twylight> e
[07:52] <Pyles17> okay then. i shall
[07:55] <Pyles17> http://paste.ubuntu.com/73733/ i'm scared because i don't know what this means
[07:55] <twylight> it means you might be in over your head
[07:55] <twylight> and I don't know either
[07:56] <RodDev> where did you see this message?
[07:56] <Pyles17> twylight: http://ipw3945.sourceforge.net/
[07:56] <dwidmann> Those things should be in a stock ubuntu install.
[07:58] <Pyles17> dwidmann: thanks
[07:58] <dwidmann> wait, what .... the old ipw3945 driver, why?
[07:58] <RodDev> yeah it should have installed with ubuntu
[07:59] <Pyles17> dwidmann: because the new iwlwifi-3945 driver isn't working, lshw -C network shows the card as unclaimed, and if it does decide to work with the card it won't connect
[08:00] <Pyles17> so i'm trying everything
[08:00]  * dwidmann goes digging
[08:01] <twylight> I'm yelling you
[08:01] <twylight> 8.04
[08:01] <twylight> *telling
[08:01] <needhelp> which repository is libdivx4linux at? im kubuntu 7.10
[08:02] <needhelp> uncommented all deb in sources.list
[08:02] <needhelp> !libdivx4linux
[08:02] <needhelp> !divx
[08:02] <Pyles17> twylight: I want to stick with 8.10 if i can. if, by the time I go to bed, i don't have it figured out, i'm going to try 8.04
[08:03] <dwidmann> Pyles17: try looking here: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/using-ipw3945-instead-iwl3945-in-hardy.html
[08:04] <dwidmann> Pyles17: might need to modify it a little bit for intrepid
[08:04] <Thor> guys, where i can find a how-to or a tutorial about restoring grub ?
[08:05] <needhelp> how the f i get libdivx4linux in kubuntu 7.10?
[08:07]  * twylight flurps
[08:09] <Colonel_Panic> anybody know anything about audio cards?
[08:09] <Colonel_Panic> I can't get ny inputs to work
[08:09] <Colonel_Panic> *my*
[08:09] <twylight> !audio
[08:10] <Colonel_Panic> yeah ARTS is running
[08:10] <Colonel_Panic> I can play and hear audio and everything like that, I just don't get any input
[08:10] <Colonel_Panic> I've tried messing with the mixer and still can't get it to wor
[08:10] <Colonel_Panic> work
[08:11] <dwidmann> Colonel_Panic: they're not muted or anything sillly like that are they?
[08:11] <Colonel_Panic> nope
[08:11] <Colonel_Panic> this has been an ongoing problem since I first built this machine
[08:12] <dwidmann> Colonel_Panic: maybe the easiest solution would be to buy a sound card that worked without issue?
[08:12] <Colonel_Panic> I installed a replacement audio card because the input on my mobo's onboard sound systemn wasn't wotrking
[08:12] <Colonel_Panic> the one I installed is an old Creative Sound Blaster Live! Value from like 2000 or so
[08:13] <amerigo> hello
[08:13] <Colonel_Panic> do you have any recommendations for well-supported sound cards that are very good for recording?
[08:14] <Colonel_Panic> I'd like to get the best possible sound card that Linux supports
[08:14] <dwidmann> Not really, I scarcely ever record anything
[08:15] <dwidmann> Colonel_Panic: definitely check alsa's website
[08:15] <Colonel_Panic> OKAY
[08:15] <Colonel_Panic> alsa's website?
[08:15] <Colonel_Panic> I
[08:15] <Colonel_Panic> I'll check it out.
[08:16] <Colonel_Panic> I want to be ebale to do multitrack recording
[08:16] <Colonel_Panic> *able*
[08:16] <Colonel_Panic> I'd also like to be able to type
[08:16] <Colonel_Panic> ...
[08:16] <amerigo> i've kubuntu hardy... a program tells me to check browser configuration to execute it. I have firefox and command may be firefox-2 %u but it do not works... How can I find correct command to give?
[08:17] <Colonel_Panic> check to make sure you don't already have an instance of FF running
[08:17] <Colonel_Panic> if you do, then kill it and try again
[08:18] <amerigo> no there is no instance running
[08:19] <amerigo> i think this operation will work also from console
[08:19] <amerigo> it is right?
[08:20] <amerigo> i have copied firefox-2 %u from link on the desktop... but it do no works also from console
[08:24] <amerigo> thank you
[08:24] <amerigo> I have solved
[08:30] <bentob0x> anybody would know a little software in which you would enter the list of domains you have and it will automatically check for renewal etc?
[08:48] <twylight> nini
[08:59] <peniel> anyone know of some information on how to install internet explorer on linux and have it websites with activex?
[09:05] <bdgraue> peniel: don't know about active x but:  http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Main_Page
[09:06] <peniel> thanks bdgraue, i'm trying that out right now
[09:06] <dig> !eclipse
[09:07] <Thor> !grub
[09:13] <peniel> !ie
[09:13] <peniel> !wine
[09:25] <reanimation> #ubuntu-in
[09:27] <dek> how do I make krunner open with Alt+Space (just like good old Katapult) ?
[09:29] <cuznt> !krunner
[09:47] <dwidmann> Anybody here have any idea what might cause this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/73778/
[10:18] <robit> question:does anyone of u have the knowlege or experience with openssl+DigiCert+keyrenewal ?
[10:26] <ocs> hi. i have changed my monitor and now i see strange values in screen system settings. in addition, i see all the windows larger than they should be... what can i do ?
[10:28] <lynxlynxlynx> hi, can someone please paste a kubuntu 8.10 lilo.conf somewhere? I didn't install the bootloader on install and now I'm missing some of the fine options
[10:48] <Bauldrick> hi - Is there a program that'll scan all .jpegs and get info of off them and then organize them in seperate folders (month/year etc..)?
[10:52] <aziz> i doubt it, but you could write a little script in Python that would do that (provided you know Python.)
[10:55] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[11:04] <Pooh22> Bauldrick: I let digikam do that when I download images from my camera, but in general I agree with aziz; try a script (shell/perl/python/ruby)
[11:04] <lynxlynxlynx> shell would be quicker
[11:04] <lynxlynxlynx> you can grab some info via imagemagick
[11:05] <ActionParsnip> gotta love imagemagick
[11:06] <Pooh22> Bauldrick: it'd go something like this: for f in *jpeg; do dateinfo = $(exiftool -<option for date info $f | awk somescript); mkdir -p $dateinfo; mv $f $dateinfo; done
[11:07] <Pooh22> hmm, without spaces around dateinfo's = of course ;-)
[11:07] <ActionParsnip> wow thats impressive
[11:07] <Pooh22> I'll be teaching a course for that sort of stuff soon ;-)
[11:09] <Bauldrick> thanks Pooh22
[11:09] <lynxlynxlynx> it's -CreateDate btw
[11:10] <lynxlynxlynx> and '{print $4}' as the gawk command if you're happy with the provided format
[11:11] <Pooh22> Bauldrick: if you work it out further, note that the use of those variables ($f) should be surrounded with "", to take care of spaces and other weirdness in the file/directory names
[11:14] <ocs2> hi. i have changed monitor and monitor settings on my system. now, when i start kubuntu i see a disaster instead of the normal screen... what could i do in order to configure the monitor properly?
[11:15] <jarrel> hey room whats up
[11:17] <jarrel> hey.... i got an Hp compaq 6720s laptop an i got problems with my Wireless card its not seein it at all what can i do ..?
[11:19] <ActionParsnip> jarrel: lspci will get you started
[11:20] <jarrel> ok i will check it out
[11:26] <ubuntu_> hi there
[11:27] <ubuntu_> Does anybody know, where the light are?
[11:27] <Tm_T> ubuntu_: next to door, I guess
[11:28] <ubuntu_> where are you from?
[11:28] <ahox> Hi, how can I import an kde3 wallet into kde4?
[11:28] <ubuntu_> ХЗ
[11:28] <Tm_T> ahox: do export in kde3 walletmanager, then do import in kde4 one
[11:29] <ahox> thats a problem, i dont have the kwalletmanager from 3.5 anymore, and I dont find it as a package, neither (i am on intrepid)
[11:32] <ahox> problem solved, turns out the kwalletmanager 4.1 can actually read the old format
[11:56] <lynxlynxlynx> so, still nobody with lilo here?
[11:58] <dwidmann> lynxlynxlynx: not too many of us really use lilo ... seeing as grub is the default and it works pretty well
[11:58] <lynxlynxlynx> that would explain the lack of search hits
[11:59] <lynxlynxlynx> did you get a lilo.conf preinstalled anyway?
[11:59] <dwidmann> lynxlynxlynx: asides from "/usr/share/doc/memtest86+/examples/lilo.conf", no.
[12:00] <Machtin> hey guys.. how can i give my virtualbox-box access to a usb-stick?
[12:06] <koperton> !virtualbox | Machtin
[12:06] <koperton> use non free
[12:06] <koperton> or you will not able to use usb stick
[12:11] <Machtin> kay, thanks
[12:13] <||arifaX> Cdrecord hat ungenügende Zugriffsrechte.... unter k3b was kann das sein??
[12:16] <||arifaX> ..ups sorry english now CDrecord has unsufficient rights... using k3b what could cause that. can't find k3b setup wizard as described somewhere
[12:18] <amerigo> !java
[12:18] <Machtin> koperton: still won't work.. do i need guest additions?
[12:19] <amerigo> !info|developer java
[12:19] <koperton> Machtin: i dunno cuz i am using free version cuz i don't need of winz application on mu linux xD
[12:19] <amerigo> !info developer
[12:20] <amerigo> !info java
[12:20] <Machtin> hmm
[12:22] <Pooh22> does anyone know how to prevent openoffice from interpreting numbers as dates when pasting/typing into cells of calc?
[12:23] <lynxlynxlynx> preformat them as numbers?
[12:23] <lynxlynxlynx> the cells i mean
[12:23] <amerigo> Pooh22: May be that the new sheet have features of data?
[12:23] <amerigo> dates
[12:24] <amerigo> or paste special - paste anly what you need
[12:24] <amerigo> paste only...
[12:24] <Pooh22> problem is that I want them as strings, not numbers
[12:24] <amerigo> copy >> paste special >> only number
[12:25] <Pooh22> but the preformatting did the trick, thnx lynxlynxlynx
[12:25] <amerigo> yeah
[12:25] <Pooh22> I preformatted as Text (ooo 3.0 btw)
[12:26] <Pooh22> I was already using past special, but then I got the text import dialogue (copy from text editor)
[12:26] <amerigo> problem may be preformatting
[12:27] <kabotage> what debugging symbols should be installed when dolphin crashes?
[12:28] <Trae> man I guess it's been 6 months since I've tried KDE, and somewhere along the way a lot of spit and polish has taken place.
[12:29] <Trae> I used KDE full time for 2 years from say 99-01 and then we parted ways.
[12:29] <Trae> I think I'm back ;)
[12:29] <Pooh22> Trae: welcome back then ;-)
[12:29] <Trae> danke
[12:29] <Pooh22> just wait until 4.2 gets out
[12:30] <kabotage> ummm help
[12:30] <Trae> the only thing that feels odd is...  the desktop icon stuff...
[12:30] <Trae> I'm not so sure that was the brightest move :)
[12:31] <Pooh22> Trae: I'm stuck in my kde3 ways, but you skipped all that ;-)
[12:31] <Trae> hey guys, if I want to bind F1 to a Term... I've always been able to do this... (and could do it in days of old with KDE)  how would I go about this?  [still can easily on Gnome too now]
[12:31] <Trae> Pooh22: hehe well I try KDE out about every 6 months or so for a week or two
[12:32] <Trae> Pooh22: eventually something is just where I'm like... "This irks me... :(  and go back to gnome"
[12:32] <Pooh22> Gnome always irks me in 5 min :-(
[12:32] <Trae> I've used KDE since KFM 0.0.1 :)
[12:32] <Trae> off and on mind you
[12:33] <Trae> who remembers the Jan 1997 launch?
[12:33] <Pooh22> I was still using afterstep then
[12:33] <Trae> Pooh22: hehe
[12:33] <Trae> <-- OctobrX from Themes.org  ftwiw
[12:33] <Trae> err fwiw
[12:34] <Trae> Pooh22: Afterstep, wow... the good olden days
[12:35] <Pooh22> I remember being impressed by fvwm before that
[12:35] <Pooh22> but memory fades...
[12:35] <Trae> Pooh22: lol  I remember Carstens (Raster) fvwm-xpm
[12:35] <DarkSmoke> guys
[12:35] <DarkSmoke> guys
[12:35] <DarkSmoke> how do i choose which version of java to use
[12:35] <DarkSmoke> the open source one or the other you know
[12:36] <Pooh22> sun java you mean?
[12:36] <Trae> Pooh22: oh hey did you know how to bind F1 to konsole?
[12:36] <Pooh22> wasn't that open sourced too?
[12:36] <Pooh22> Trae: somewhere in system settings - comp adm - keyboard
[12:37] <Pooh22> kde4 is still somewhat immature in the UI department
[12:37] <Pooh22> s/UI/usability/
[12:37] <Trae> hmm
[12:38] <Pooh22> but it's nice to look at ;-)
[12:38] <Trae> I've used F1 for a term forlike...  many many years  heck I think I used to do that in eithe rAfterstep or Windowmaker at least
[12:39] <Pooh22> I always have one at startup (it is started when restoring the session), so I hardly ever need another one
[12:40] <Trae> aye.... either way you gots to have quick access to your term ;)
[12:40] <Pooh22> only bother in 4.1.3 is that it doesn't restore my 10-ish konsole tabs
[12:40] <Trae> ouch
[12:40] <Trae> that could be a big problem
[12:40] <Pooh22> that will be in 4.2 I'm tol
[12:40] <Pooh22> d
[12:41] <Trae> Yeah I don't understand this keyboard shortcut setup stuff.
[12:41] <Pooh22> I'm sure there must be a way, but I don't know it (yet)
[12:42] <Trae> ok... I think I've found it.  but... it's not taking lol
[12:42] <Trae> keyboard shortcuts > KDE component: khotkeys > Run Konsole
[12:44] <afeijo> I have firefox 2 and 3 installed, but no matter what I do only version 3 open. How can I use version 2?
[12:44] <Pooh22> Trae: I don't have that one (khotkeys)
[12:45] <anubis> Hello, anyone know a good / simple sound recording program?
[12:45] <Trae> omg... never hit the defaults key
[12:45] <Trae> it pops up 400 windows
[12:46] <Trae> I only changed 1 thing
[12:46] <Trae> and when I hit defaults
[12:46] <Trae> it launched an assault on me
[12:46] <anubis> lol
[12:46] <anubis> Mate do you know a program so i can test if my mic is working
[12:47] <Trae> hmm
[12:47] <Trae> krecord used to be it
[12:47] <Trae> not sure if that is even around anymore
[12:47] <Trae> audacity
[12:47] <Trae> it's gtk based but should work
[12:48] <anubis> cool
[12:48] <anubis> audacity has recording capabilties?
[12:48] <anubis> didn't know it really is the best music program ever hehe
[12:48] <anubis> lol
[12:49] <||arifaX> solved: when using vmware and enabled physical cdrom. anytime you start burning with k3b it fails because the vms lock the cd after burn started. - solved
[12:49] <Trae> man... this keybinding is pissing me off
[12:49] <Trae> Pooh22: heh... little things like this... force me back to gnome :(
[12:49] <anubis> na man don't do it
[12:49] <anubis> gnome is more stable but not as functional i find
[12:49] <anubis> :P
[12:50] <Trae> when you've hit F1 for a term for 12+ years.... hard to switch
[12:50] <anubis> Trae do you know of a program that will allow me to attach my digi cam and download the photos to my disk?
[12:50] <Trae> anubis: well I'm sure you just plug your cam in
[12:51] <anubis> yeah i did
[12:51] <anubis> nothing happens
[12:51] <anubis> :P
[12:51] <anubis> should it load it like a flash drive?
[12:51] <Trae> anubis: google for your cam model + the words:  ubnut
[12:51] <Trae> err ubuntu
[12:51] <anubis> good shout thx mate
[12:51] <Trae> anubis: aye :)
[12:51] <Trae> ok gotta get some work done
[12:51] <anubis> lets hope my cam is popular enough
[12:51] <Trae> later peeps.
[12:51] <anubis> laters man
[13:01] <afeijo> I have firefox 2 and 3 installed, but no matter what I do only version 3 open. How can I use version 2?
[13:01] <LjL> afeijo: make sure all instances of firefox 3 are closed, first
[13:01] <LjL> afeijo: are you on Hardy?
[13:02] <Dekans> afeijo: launch firefox-2
[13:02] <Dekans> (maybe)
[13:02] <ActionParsnip1> afeijo: you could create a symlink in /usr/bin called firefox2 say, which points to the firefox 2 binary
[13:02] <afeijo> yes, hardy
[13:02] <afeijo> I will try firefox-2 now
[13:02] <afeijo> need to close ff3? cant use both at the same time?
[13:05] <afeijo> it worked, with ff3 closed. Thanks.  Now I need to make java work on my firefox, damn
[13:05] <afeijo> I try several stuff to make java work
[13:05] <afeijo> followed sun pages, etc.
[13:06] <afeijo> created symlink
[13:06] <afeijo> nothing works
[13:06] <Dekans> do you have the java plugin installed ?
[13:06] <afeijo> I have java console 6.0.02
[13:07] <Dekans> sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin
[13:07] <afeijo> I think I have, but I will run it to check
[13:07] <Dekans> exept if you have installed the 64 bits version of kubuntu
[13:07] <afeijo> package not avaiable
[13:08] <afeijo> I dont remember if this machine have kubuntu 64 bits
[13:08] <Dekans> uname -r to check
[13:08] <afeijo> 2.6.24-21-generic
[13:08] <Dekans> failed
[13:09] <Dekans> uname -a instead
[13:09] <afeijo> hmmm, yeah, x86_64 on that command
[13:09] <afeijo> so I cant use java? Am I doomed?
[13:10] <Dekans> so you don't have java plugin
[13:10] <Dekans> no java plugin for linux 64 platform
[13:10] <Dekans> but with the openjdk VM maybe you have
[13:10] <afeijo> and sun about to be sell, there will be no release to 64 in anytime, lol
[13:10] <afeijo> should I set a VMWARE to solve the?
[13:10] <Dekans> I'm not an expert in java, but I think you can
[13:11] <Dekans> try openjdk first
[13:11] <afeijo> ok
[13:11] <ActionParsnip1> Dekans: theres iced-tea for 64bit java
[13:11] <ActionParsnip1> works great over here
[13:11] <Dekans> ActionParsnip1: thanks, I didn't remember the name
[13:11] <afeijo> ActionParsnip1: how to install it?
[13:12] <afeijo> I download and install java 64 bits from sun site
[13:12] <afeijo> I found this on google: sudo apt-get install java-gcj-compat-plugin
[13:13] <ActionParsnip1> any one of these that suits you icedtea-java7-jdk     icedtea-java7-jre     icedtea-java7-plugin
[13:13] <ActionParsnip1> sudo ap-get install <whatever>
[13:14] <afeijo> damn, now any page with java closes my firefox
[13:14] <dwidmann> Wow, this is strange ... I've now got some sort of twisted blend of kde3 and kde4
[13:15] <fabio> hi
[13:15] <fabio> Im brasilian
[13:15] <Pici> !br
[13:16] <ocs2>  hi. i have made a mistake changing my monitor (and its settings) with another. now, when i restart X, alla the screen si messed up. what could i do to repair ?
[13:17] <fabio> eu tenho uma lexmark x4550 alguem sabe como fazer essa tranqueira funcionar já procurei em foruns e em todo lugar mas naum enconto driver pra linux
[13:18] <afeijo> fabio: try #ubuntu-br
[13:19] <fabio> em qual menu eu mudo pra ubunto br ???
[13:20] <Pici> fabio: escribe /join #ubuntu-br
[13:21] <Dr_willis> ocs2,  is this a dvi or crt or lcd Monitor?
[13:22] <afeijo> fabio: clica 2 vezes aqui #ubuntu-br, no azul
[13:22] <Pici> afeijo: thanks
[13:23] <afeijo> Pici: :)
[13:23] <ocs2> Dr_willis: lcd
[13:24] <Dr_willis> ocs2,  dvi or vga connector?
[13:24] <Dr_willis> and what video card?
[13:24] <ocs2> Dr_willis: i remember that there was a command line utility for repairing these situations... but i don't remember the name
[13:24] <ocs2> Dr_willis: hdmi
[13:24] <ocs2> Dr_willis: nvidia
[13:24] <Dr_willis> for my nvidia card - i normally install/run the nvidia-settings tool
[13:25] <ocs2> no, i remember that there's an xorg utility
[13:25] <Dr_willis> a lot of the old x utils are no longer needed/used with the newer auto-configraing X features
[13:25] <Dr_willis> Is the screen totally garbaged or just wrong res?
[13:25] <Dr_willis> !fixres
[13:26] <ocs2> thnks Dr_willis
[13:26] <Dr_willis> assuming that info is correct.. it may be out of date
[13:27] <ocs2> Dr_willis: the screen is totally garbaged
[13:28] <Dr_willis> You could as a test. sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf  /etc/X11/xorg.conf.BACKEDUP    and restart the X server
[13:28] <Dr_willis> in 'theory' its supposed to auto configure for the most part.
[13:28] <ocs2> no... i rememeber that there's an utility for that
[13:28] <Dr_willis> OR move it. and from the console install/run the nvidia-xconfig tool..
[13:29] <Dr_willis> i pretty much only use the nvidia-settings and nvidia-xconfig tools.  since i use twinview and other fancy features
[13:34] <meywerk> sdg
[13:34] <DarkSmoke> how do i switch to sun java from the other open java on kubuntu?
[13:36] <reanimation> #ubuntu
[13:43] <Dr_willis> DarkSmoke,  i think the !java factoid tells you excatly, you use the update alterantives feature..
[13:44] <Dr_willis> !java
[13:45] <Dr_willis> yea - that site tells ya. :) thats about all it tells you
[13:48] <dynae> Hi everyone, I've justed installed ZMUD and it is asking me to turn off the system debugger before it will run. Anyone know where it is and how to do that? I have no clue
[13:49] <dynae> anyone know?
[13:50] <Dr_willis> never heard of that befor.
[13:50] <dynae> running it through wine
[13:50] <dynae> "For security purposes, this program will not run while system debuggers are active. Please remove or disable the system debugger before trying to run this program again."
[13:50] <Dr_willis> Sounds like its seeing some 'debug' feature of wine if its a wine app. and trying to prevent cheating...
[13:51] <Dr_willis> check the wine app database perhaps.
[13:51] <Dr_willis> !appdb
[13:51] <dynae> thanks
[14:00] <oni> !bot
[14:00] <ncfi1013> !Tcl
[14:01] <oni> do you know any vietnamese konversation chanel?
[14:01] <ncfi1013> does anybody know anything about Tcl?
[14:01] <oni> and how to get there?
[14:03] <BluesKaj> !vn | oni
[14:05] <BluesKaj> oni, you might try #ubuntu-vn
[14:08] <ncfi1013> does anybody know anything about Tcl?
[14:08] <Pici> ncfi1013: What about it?
[14:09] <ncfi1013> what is it, Pici?
[14:09] <Pici> ncfi1013: its a programming language.
[14:11] <ncfi1013> Pici, so i wanted to install something written in Tcl, would it hard for me to use it since i am used to gui's?
[14:11] <Pici> ncfi1013: Depends what you want to install.  Some tcl applications are packaged and are present in the software repositories.
[14:12] <alexis> cc
[14:12] <ncfi1013> Pici, aMSN, for example
[14:13] <Pici> ncfi1013: amsn is in the repositories.
[14:13] <Pici> !info amsn
[14:15] <ncfi1013> ok thanks pici. now what are some reasons why adept installer would keep crashing on me?
[14:16] <Pici> ncfi1013: That, I don't know.  I don't use adept, or even KDE.
[14:19] <ncfi1013> wwwwwhhhhhhhaaaaaaattttttttt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! no kde! no linux! no kubuntu! what do you use? how do you get by without  it?
[14:19] <ncfi1013> that last msg was for pici
[14:19] <Pici> ncfi1013: I didn't say I didn't use Linux.  I use Gnome and cli mostly.
[14:21] <ncfi1013> pici, oh sorry just kidding anyway it's cool really. what's the difference between gnome and kde?
[14:23] <Pici> ncfi1013: Its hard to explain.  I just prefer how gnome does stuff over KDe.
[14:24] <F-3000> Is there a way to test if floppy drive is 100% okay or not?
[14:24] <ncfi1013> pici: have you used kde before?
[14:28] <Pici> ncfi1013: A long time ago
[14:29] <ncfi1013> pici: what would you say to me to convince me to switch?
[14:30] <ncfi1013> pici: my friend did that to me when i was a windows user, convinced me to swicth from windows to linux
[14:38] <||arifaX> *joking* certified CPM developer    Copy Paste Modify :)
[14:38] <F-3000> ncfi1013: Gnome is easier to begin with, than KDE. But if you're already familiar with KDE, I don't know if there's a point with changing - other than there's more GUI-based apps for Gnome.
[14:39] <F-3000> ncfi1013: Altho, my "there's more GUI for gnome" -argument bases on my experiments between Ubuntu and Kubuntu, so I'm not 100% certain if I'm correct.
[14:48] <niklauz> j0 how i get vnc via ssh w/ krdc ?
[14:49] <Andreas_Scholten> hi
[14:51] <CyborgNRW> !de
[15:00] <anc> ada org indonesia di sini?
[15:01] <anc> hallo...ada org indonesia di sini?
[15:01] <Pici> !id | anc
[15:01] <anc> oo
[15:01] <anc> bgmn cara install printer canon i255?
[15:01] <Engelus[work]> здрасти
[15:01] <anc> tolongindong..
[15:02] <Pici> !ru | Engelus[work]
[15:02] <anc> sy perdana neh pake linux
[15:02] <anc> :(
[15:02] <bazhang> !id
[15:02] <anc> printerku g bisa connect
[15:02] <Pici> anc: /join #ubuntu-id
[15:04] <anc> trims/thank you very much
[15:08] <saleh> hello guys
[15:08] <saleh> it's my first time, using kubuntu
[15:08] <saleh> it's cool...
[15:38] <Nece228> why in kubunut 8.10 xorg uses 10% cpu in idle, and when i open window and dont do anythink it gets on 30%
[15:46] <trappist> Nece228: run top and see what's doing it
[15:46] <trappist> Nece228: for me it was knetworkmanager
[15:47] <Nece228> it is xorg
[15:47] <Nece228> trappist: its xorg
[15:47] <trappist> oh, that makes it harder.  that usually means it's something else using X resources.  like, I have an image viewer that causes xorg to report numbers like that.
[15:48] <Nece228> trappist: hardy with kde 4.1 dont have this problem
[15:49] <trappist> my intrepid doesn't have that problem either, but then I'm using compiz instead of kwin
[15:49] <Nece228> trappist: this also happens to ubuntu 8.10
[15:53] <Nece228> trappist: but i didnt install any updates
[15:53] <Nece228> trappist: maybe updates will fix problems?
[15:54] <Nece228> oops im off
[15:54] <Nece228> bye
[15:56] <thomas____> hi
[15:57] <thomas____> was ist
[15:57] <SlimeyPete> !german
[15:58] <thomas____> wie geht euch
[16:03] <paz> hi
[16:07] <paz> algum brasileiro?
[16:08] <JontheEchidna> !br | paz
[16:08] <lucax> is there any patch for correctin the tray icons funny backgrounds bug?
[16:14] <litb> hello all
[16:14] <litb> im joining from #kde-devel
[16:14] <il> please help me..
[16:14] <litb> my classmate is trying to get going with amarok 2 SVN
[16:14] <il> il@ilcomp:~$ pon domkom
[16:14] <il> /usr/sbin/pppd: In file /etc/ppp/peers/domkom: unrecognized option 'rp_pppoe_ac'
[16:14] <litb> and he installed kde devel packages for his ubuntu
[16:14] <litb> but then the cmake file is telling him he needs the mysql-embedded
[16:14] <litb> and he installed kde devel packages for his ubuntu
[16:14] <il> whats parametr for name of pppoe-concentartor?
[16:14] <litb> do you guys know what package he needs?
[16:17] <il>  <il> il@ilcomp:~$ pon domkom
[16:17] <il> [21:14] <il> /usr/sbin/pppd: In file /etc/ppp/peers/domkom: unrecognized option 'rp_pppoe_ac' <il> whats parametr for name of pppoe-concentartor?
[16:18] <il> ((
[16:20] <il> ?????? please
[16:21] <Hydrant> has anyone found intrepid takes a huge amount of memory ?
[16:22] <il> [21:17] <il> [21:14] <il> /usr/sbin/pppd: In file /etc/ppp/peers/domkom: unrecognized option 'rp_pppoe_ac' <il> whats parametr for name of pppoe-concentartor?
[16:30] <Dekans> Hydrant: not really
[16:30] <Dekans> but with Qt3 + Qt4 in memory it would not surprise me
[16:30] <Hydrant> Xorg seems to be at fault
[16:30] <Hydrant> plus firefox
[16:31] <Hydrant> I have 1GB of RAM, which should be enough
[16:31] <Hydrant> I might have to turn all the fancy junk off
[16:34] <combili> hi guys
[16:35] <combili> can anybody help my with my usb modem here...it doesn't want to work
[16:35] <combili> appreciate the help
[16:46] <tim> alt+f2 isn't working anymore, nothing happens, a run command window should appear but it doesn't, inpreferences--> keyboardshortcuts its set as global shortcut, using 8.10, kde4
[16:47] <tim> And Is there a way to lad the main panel(the blackone) automaticly disappear?
[16:57] <bentob0x> anybody has good links for plasmoids?
[17:34] <Thor> guys, what is the best sound editor ?
[17:40] <juanantonio> I am to make a prove with Xubuntu in the other PC, my friends. See you later
[17:43] <russ> #nicksetup
[17:55] <TimS> How can I set the default Kernel?
[17:55] <TimS> The 2.7 kernels don't work for me for some reason, so I have to stick to the 2.6 ones
[17:56] <nplus> I've got a new Inspiron 1525n laptop and installed Kubuntu 8.10 on it. But when i try to use the Volume Up/Down buttons it only shows a popup with the current volume level and doesn't change it. Is there a fix for that?
[18:01] <Novalgina2Fast> nplus: try with alsamixer
[18:02] <estudiante> òjk
[18:04] <nplus> Novalgina2Fast, yes, I've already tried that and the problem's not that I can't change the volume, but that I can't change it with the dedicated buttons
[18:05] <bobito> Hey, I want to get more into helping code apps for linux, can anyone point me to a tutorial, or initial resource, for acquiring the source code editing and compiling the default installed games for ubuntu, perhaps nibbles?  Thanks
[18:05] <bobito> I've only coded a little on windows, and don't really understand what sorta packages and the like I would need for setting up environments on linux
[18:10] <robinr> bobesponja: typicall you need packages with names like nnnn-dev
[18:10] <bobesponja> robinr: wrong bob
[18:11] <robinr> ah, I wrote to bob<TAB> :/
[18:12] <robinr> well, well.
[18:12] <robinr> any news on when bluetooth will start again working in kubuntu?
[18:12] <robinr> ^T
[18:14] <TimS> !konqueror
[18:15] <TimS> !konqueror
[18:18] <stephen__> heyy
[18:27] <bobito> Where can i find source code for the default applications that come with an Ubuntu/kubuntu install?
[18:29] <bobito> login bobito
[18:29] <bobito> can anyone hear me?
[18:31] <ThomasD> bobito: google
[18:33] <bobito> ThomasD: I've been checking through the FSF and elsewhere, but all I can find are the repository binary packages.  Is there no default place to find such things?
[18:33] <genii> bobito: You can download the source code with apt-get.  eg:  apt-get source <appname>
[18:35] <LordCrc> when i use fglrx, i can't get my native monitor resolution working... even if i select "lcd 1280x800" as monitor type manually, it still only goes to 1024x768
[18:36] <bobito> genii: okay, got it, where did it download to?
[18:36] <genii> bobito: The directory in which you ran the command
[18:36] <bobito> genii: Thank you
[18:37] <bobito> genii: can I keep asking you questions?
[18:41] <bdgraue> is there an easy way to sync google calendar with kontact/kalendar?
[18:43] <rjune> bdgraue: that's a very interesting question. please share if you find out, eh?
[18:44] <bdgraue> if...  yes :)
[18:44] <genii> Hm. I was going to tell him "yes, if you can put up with lag since I'm working"
[18:56] <joe_> something's wrong with my computer, it wont let me close firefox, someone please help me???
[18:57] <SlimeyPete> press alt-f2 and type "xkill", then press return and click on the firefox window
[18:57] <joe_> everytime i try to close it through ProcessTable (modified) - KDE System Guard it tell's me this Insufficient permissions to kill process 6621
[18:58] <joe_> i am trying to do the alt and f2 but it wont let me do that
[18:58] <SlimeyPete> you can also try "sudo kill -9 6621" in a terminal
[18:58] <joe_> wtf
[18:58] <SlimeyPete> no alt-f2? erk.
[18:58] <joe_> ok ill try that
[18:58] <niklauz> where do i get freenx setup help?
[18:59] <aslan> hey guys... anyone seen hawkwind lately?
[18:59] <joe_> ok that did work, thnx very much
[18:59] <joe_> ^_^
[19:06] <aslan> !seen Hawkwind
[19:07] <ico2__> the .torrent links for the alternate cds are broken.   here: http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu/download
[19:08] <ico2__> brb, laundry
[19:18] <rjune> Has anybody run into problems with KDE 4 on Intrepid where after a period of time your keyboard stops working properly? I'm having a strange issue where I login, everything works fine, then I stop being able to type into the window that has focus. numlock/capslock still work, but it's almost like some invisible window has trapped the keyboard focus
[19:18] <Administrator> Hello
[19:19] <thomashome> hello
[19:19] <thomashome> I was needing some help
[19:19] <CTShadow> rjune: does Alt-Tab still work?
[19:19] <thomashome> with the new interpid ibex
[19:19] <thomashome> I want the new KDE4
[19:19] <thomashome> edition
[19:19] <thomashome> on my laptop but
[19:20] <thomashome> when I install it to start it up
[19:20] <thomashome> I have to hold down the space bat
[19:20] <thomashome> sorry bar
[19:20] <thomashome> I really annoys me
[19:20] <thomashome> does any of you guy's have a fix?
[19:20] <thomashome> I managed to install it
[19:21] <rjune> CTShadow: no
[19:21] <thomashome> by holding space bar
[19:21] <thomashome> no fix at all?
[19:21] <rjune> only keys that seem to work properly are the *lock keys
[19:21] <thomashome> Do people know
[19:21] <thomashome> about this error?
[19:22] <thomashome> h
[19:22] <thomashome> sorry
[19:22] <rjune> thomashome: You're likely to get ignored like that. a simple "hey, I'm having this problem" then waiting for a bit would suffice.
[19:22] <rjune> though at this point kde3 is likely a more realistic choice for day to day stuff.
[19:22] <thomashome> But I love kde4 on the interpid
[19:23] <thomashome> and kde4 does not run good on Hardy
[19:23] <thomashome> it's ok as a testing ground
[19:23] <thomashome> but's thats's a;; it
[19:23] <thomashome> was on hardy
[19:23] <thomashome> sorry kde4 hardy users
[19:24] <miasma> kde 4.1.3 on kubuntu seems to be seriously broken
[19:24] <miasma> e.g. i can't even change the user password via the gui. kdm doesn't support wallpapers etc
[19:24] <thomashome> yes it does
[19:25] <thomashome> How do you get them moving wallpapers on KDE
[19:26] <maximilian-schro> hello. does anybody know how to connect with kontact to an openexchange server?
[19:33] <Archdevil> I am running 8.10 and am not used to working with sudo. can I give root a password and work with su like I am used to?
[19:36] <CTShadow> Archdevil: You could type "sudo su", then you have root privileges without having to type sudo at every command
[19:37] <ico2__> Archdevil, also, i think sudo passwd root would do the trick, but ubuntu folks get funny about that sorta thing
[19:42] <Archdevil> ico2__, CTShadow: thanks. Just been reading a bit about the  login-as-root policy on the ubuntu-wiki. ico2__ , you are correct there
[19:42] <ico2__> Archdevil, personally i make use of both
[19:43] <Archdevil> I guess sudo su would do the trick most of the time
[19:43] <Archdevil> ico2__, how do you mean?
[19:43] <paolo> hi. is i386 == x86 ?
[19:44] <ico2__> Archdevil, use sudo su from a Konsole window, or login as root on the console/ssh
[19:44] <ico2__> *i
[19:44] <Archdevil> paolo, yes
[19:44] <Archdevil> ico2__, so you did the sudo passwd root thing. Did it break anything?
[19:44] <paolo> Archdevil: but... i thought i386 is only a subset of x386 ... isn't it ?
[19:45] <Archdevil> nope
[19:45] <paolo> Archdevil: but... i thought i386 is only a subset of x86 ... isn't it ?
[19:45] <Archdevil> i386, i486, i686 etc are generations of intel procs
[19:45] <paolo> Archdevil: and if you have to name a 386 CPU (the old 386...) how can you call it ?
[19:45] <Archdevil> i386
[19:46] <paolo> Archdevil: and a pentium ?
[19:46] <Archdevil> indeed i686 has more commands
[19:46] <Archdevil> let me see
[19:46] <paolo> Archdevil: i mean: if you have to say that you work on intel cpus... is "i work on i386 processors" a good sentence ?
[19:47] <Archdevil> pentium is i586
[19:47] <Archdevil> pentium II and above is i686
[19:47] <ico2__> Archdevil, no
[19:47] <paolo> Archdevil: read here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/I386
[19:47] <ico2__> Archdevil, *no it didn't break
[19:47] <paolo> This document describes how to install Ubuntu 7.04 "Feisty Fawn" on Intel x86 computers ("i386"),
[19:48] <paolo> so, it seems that this term could be used also for pentiums
[19:48] <Archdevil> paolo: it means that *buntu is compiled to be able to run on 386-procs and all tose above
[19:48] <Archdevil> *those
[19:49] <paolo> i see
[19:49] <Archdevil> so it has not been optimized for, let's say,  pentium II procs
[19:49] <Archdevil> ico2__, thanks
[19:54] <dek> in KDE4, how can I make Krunner open with Alt+Space, just like good old Katapult?
[19:54] <Riddell> ** Kubuntu Meeting in 5 minutes in #ubuntu-meeting
[19:54] <Archdevil> Riddell, what does that mean?
[19:56] <Riddell> Archdevil: it's a meeting of kubuntu contributors, all welcome, come and watch if you want
[19:57] <maximilian-schro> hi again. i am currently playing around with kmail a little bit. when i want to reply to an email i want that my signature is above the quote. i managed this already. but how can i make the coursor on the very top of the input field. it sticks always above the quote but under the signature.
[19:57] <tnew> am i only able to connect to this ubuntu irc?/
[19:57] <tnew> there is one i want its called swiftirc
[19:58] <P_> hello
[19:58] <genii> tnew: If you know the server name like: irc.swiftirc.com     or such, then issue:    /server irc.swiftirc.com                          <- as example
[19:59] <P_> just downloaded the 8.10 and tried to boot from the cd, but when i try to install after a while the command prompt appears. No graphical interface like in previous versions, is it because it fails or ?
[19:59] <genii> Yes
[20:00] <P_> yes it fails to install ?
[20:00] <P_> i tried ubuntu as well and i got the same problem
[20:01] <genii> P_: Yes as in the command prompt appears because it is failing to install
[20:01] <P_> ok thanks
[20:01] <P_> not sure why, previous version were installing/running fine on my lappy
[20:01] <P_> maybe the SATA drives ?
[20:01] <genii> Riddell: Meeting started? Quiet in there
[20:02] <dek> any newsreader for KDE4? I get a "502 error" whenever I try KNode
[20:02] <Archdevil> I am looking for a newsreader for kde4 too
[20:03] <dek> Archdevil: do you get the same error with KNode?
[20:04] <P_> genii, an idea what I should try ?
[20:04] <Archdevil> I installed kubutu yesterday and started looking for the reader 20 minuts ago. So no.
[20:04] <genii> P_: PErhaps during cd menu, F6 and add         vga     before the ---
[20:04] <baris_> is there anybody working for automtive industry?
[20:05] <P_> ok i can give it a try, back in a sec, cheers
[20:05] <gribs> Hi everyone. I'm need some help. After connecting to my home network i must write some comands (with ifconfig). Where i must write it for it automatically work.
[20:05] <genii> baris_: You have some Kubuntu related support issue which involves the automaotive industry in some manner?
[20:06] <baris_> no just for discussing about crisis at automotive industry
[20:07] <genii> baris_: This channel is specific to Kubuntu linux support
[20:07] <genii> !ot
[20:07] <baris_> ohh ok i am sorry for disturbance
[20:08] <gribs> Hi everyone. I'm need some help. After connecting to my home network i must write some comands (with ifconfig). Where i must write it for it automatically work.
[20:09] <genii> baris_: No worries :)
[20:09] <genii> gribs: To bring the interface up, or do something else ?
[20:09] <onio> si je te retrouve ici
[20:09] <gribs> for something else
[20:09] <onio> je va te corrigir
[20:09] <onio> pour te faire le sacrifice
[20:10] <genii> onio: anglis ici excusive
[20:10] <gribs> interace is working
[20:10] <genii> !fr | onio
[20:10] <baris_> is there any 3D CAD package for ubuntu?
[20:11] <genii> baris_: There are, some are free and so-so, others are not free and awesome
[20:11] <genii> baris_: CATIA for instance
[20:12] <baris_> Catia not free i guess
[20:12] <baris_> thanks
[20:13] <cotui> hola
[20:13] <cotui> la sala de ubuntu
[20:13] <genii> So that everyone is aware: My policy is not to provide support in private message, only by public channel
[20:14] <genii> !es | cotui
[20:14] <cattis> hel
[20:15] <gribs> Enebody can explain how do some comands with network interface at  loading?
[20:15] <genii> gribs: You can put the command in someplace like /etc/network/if-up.d/
[20:16] <genii> Please excuse lag, I am at work and also attending a Kubuntu meeting in another channel
[20:24] <sourcemaker> how can I settup the http proxy in kvpnc? my profile does not store the settings
[20:25] <sourcemaker> there is a config file in /etc/ppp/peers/
[20:25] <sourcemaker> what are the right config paramteres for HTTP Proxy?
[20:27] <OuaMZoo> bonsoir a tous
[20:27] <OuaMZoo> j'ai un petit souci à vous faire part. J'ai pas trouvé sur les forums en passant par google
[20:27] <OuaMZoo> ca concerne un Netgear MA101
[20:28] <OuaMZoo> et j'arrive pas à le faire fonctionner sur Kubuntu
[20:29] <genii> !fr | OuaMZoo
[20:29] <ActionParsnip> hey all
[20:29] <ActionParsnip> has anyone got the latest firefox update?
[20:30] <billos> ça va être tout noir
[20:31] <ActionParsnip> !fr
[20:31] <genii> ActionParsnip: Quite a few french this hour :)
[20:31] <ActionParsnip> genii: tres bon
[20:32] <ActionParsnip> genii: have you got the new firefox update?
[20:32] <genii> :)
[20:32] <genii> sourcemaker: You are using a global proxy or one only for that app?
[20:32] <genii> ActionParsnip: Quite possibly, haven't noticed
[20:32] <ActionParsnip> genii: it seems slicker and was wondering if it was a feature or just my config
[20:33] <sourcemaker> sourcemaker: I would like a global proxy.. in kvpnc there is a config dialog... but the hostname I enter will not save!
[20:33] <sourcemaker> genii:  I would like a global proxy.. in kvpnc there is a config dialog... but the hostname I enter will not save!
[20:33] <genii> sourcemaker: Use instead /etc/environment
[20:33] <sourcemaker> genii: do you know the config params?
[20:33] <sourcemaker> genii: proxy-host proxy-port...
[20:34] <genii> sourcemaker: There is an example here: http://readlist.com/lists/lists.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-users/9/48881.html
[20:43] <squiggie> 1
[20:43] <jmichaelx> can anyone tell me what the #$%^ the proper way is to set the resolution on a machine using an Nvidia GPU?
[20:43] <genii> squiggie: Do you have some Kubuntu support issue you require assistance with?
[20:44] <jmichaelx> i am having to manually set the resolution on this machine using nvidia-settings every time i log in
[20:44] <squiggie> genii: ehh, not really. I didn't mean to do that. I'm trying to learn irssi command line irc client and figure out how to join multiple channels. That was a mt.
[20:45] <genii> squiggie: No worries :)
[20:48] <ActionParsnip> people still log ni as root?
[20:48] <ActionParsnip> *in
[20:49] <ActionParsnip> oh dear
[20:49] <genii> ActionParsnip: Unfortunately
[20:50] <ActionParsnip> yes I totally need full system access to run firefox
[20:50] <cgrongnet> problème de son avec la 8.10 ?
[20:50] <jmichaelx> !fr
[20:51] <vincent_> hi
[20:51] <jmichaelx> OK OK, i apologize for the bad language. i finally got the resolution corrected.
[20:51] <jmichaelx> !hi | vincent_
[20:52] <vincent_> tx
[20:52] <vincent_> haha I understand nothing right now
[20:52] <newbie447> Hey.... Anyone else having issues with URL clicks in Thunderbird not being transfered to FireFox?
[20:52] <vincent_> lol
[20:52] <jmichaelx> ubottu is a pretty friendly guy (most of the time)
[20:52] <Archdevil> I installed libdvdcss.deb but still kaffeine complains that the dvd I try to play an encrypted dvd. Suggestions?
[20:52] <jmichaelx> not too bright, though
[20:53] <genii> jmichaelx: Did you run nvidia-settings with sudo?
[20:53] <jmichaelx> genii: i tried that MANY times, it never worked
[20:53] <Archdevil> I installed libdvdcss.deb but still kaffeine complains that I try to play an encrypted dvd. Suggestions?
[20:54] <genii> jmichaelx: eg:    sudo nvidia-settings             ?
[20:54] <ActionParsnip> Archdevil: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-ubuntu-linux-playback-dvd/
[20:55] <jmichaelx> genii: yes. it didn't work. what i finally had to do was install and run displayconfig-gtk, and then change the settings in the KDE system settings GUI
[20:56] <jmichaelx> i miss the old days of just editing xorg.conf manually. at least one generally had a good idea what was going on
[20:56] <jmichaelx> and i miss the old dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg badly, as well
[20:57]  * newbie447 is really puzzled about 3 Kubuntu 8.10 issues
[20:57] <jmichaelx> call me a primitivist
[20:57]  * newbie447 is also desperate to get his Wireless card working right
[20:58] <noaXess> there is a tool to fetsch keyboard strokes.. how does it called?
[20:58] <ActionParsnip> jmichaelx: I still do it for my nvidia card
[20:58] <ActionParsnip> noaXess: xev
[20:58] <noaXess> ActionParsnip: hey.. good evening :)
[20:58] <noaXess> thanks.. ;)
[20:58] <ActionParsnip> jmichaelx: its worked so far, no bad thing. I prefer xorg.conf editing
[20:59] <noaXess> ActionParsnip: what do you do for your nvidia? have you also sometimes problem with the main panel? blinking and so on?
[20:59] <ActionParsnip> jmichaelx: newbs are just terrified of their keyboard
[20:59] <ActionParsnip> noaXess: no, its perfect
[20:59] <noaXess> ActionParsnip: any tips to get all the power of nvidia
[20:59] <noaXess> ActionParsnip: intresting you settings.. xorg settings..
[20:59] <ActionParsnip> noaXess: http://pastebin.com/f78c9bb58
[20:59] <ActionParsnip> way ahead of you
[21:00] <boris> hello... I'm a newbie with Kubuntu.... some one can give me a hand... it's no so complicated, just a conceptual answer
[21:00] <ActionParsnip> !ask | boris
[21:00] <ThomasHC> hello
[21:00] <jmichaelx> ActionParsnip: what i was running into was that KDE was not paying attention to the changes i was making in xorg.cong... nor listing the resolution modelines i had added
[21:00] <noaXess> boris: ask not aks to aks
[21:00] <jmichaelx> this is on a machine running Hardy
[21:00] <ActionParsnip> jmichaelx: did you restart x each time you updated it?
[21:01] <jmichaelx> ActionParsnip: i sure did.... even rebotted 6 or 12 times just to be sure
[21:01] <boris> thanks.... the x64 version of Kubuntu... its the better option for a C2D intel Processor?
[21:01] <jmichaelx> rebooted*
[21:01] <ActionParsnip> jmichaelx: then you need xorg, intrepid ignores most of xorg, hence all the commented lines
[21:01] <boris> or just for AMD?
[21:01] <noaXess> boris: hm thins the normal kubunt fit your choice..
[21:01] <ActionParsnip> boris: if the cpu is 64bit then the amd64 iso is what you want
[21:01] <jmichaelx> ActionParsnip: the machine i am running at the moment is running intrepid... and it hardly has anything in xorg.conf at all (iirc)
[21:02] <ThomasHC> ActionParsnip: not always, x64 does have a fw wproblems
[21:02] <noaXess> your c2d cpu isn't a 64bit i think
[21:02] <ThomasHC> *few
[21:02] <ThomasHC> noaXess: all C2Ds are 64 bit
[21:02] <noaXess> ThomasHC: right?
[21:02] <boris> it is... Core 2 Duo its a 63 bits processor...
[21:02] <ThomasHC> I belive your refering to the Core Duo series, which wasn't
[21:02] <ThomasHC> *64 boris
[21:02] <noaXess> ah.. ok.. sorry
[21:02] <ThomasHC> yes noaXess
[21:02] <ThomasHC> no problem, we all learned somewhere ;)
[21:02] <noaXess> late night :)
[21:03] <ThomasHC> haha
[21:03]  * jmichaelx wants a 63 bit processor
[21:03] <ThomasHC> lol
[21:03] <ActionParsnip> ThomasHC: if the system has >3Gb ram, then 64 bit is advised :)
[21:03] <ThomasHC> well
[21:03] <noaXess> ActionParsnip: have you created you xorg from nvidia-settings?
[21:03] <ThomasHC> x64 does have a lot of problems
[21:03] <jmichaelx> i should switch to 64 bit....
[21:03] <ThomasHC> like with firefox
[21:03] <noaXess> ActionParsnip: commandline or GUI
[21:03] <newbie447> Can anyone answer a 802.11 NIC question?
[21:03] <ThomasHC> jmichaelx: It's your choice, if you use it and everything works, great
[21:03] <jmichaelx> newbie447: just ask
[21:04] <ActionParsnip> noaXess: CLI al the way
[21:04] <noaXess> ActionParsnip:  ok..
[21:04] <ThomasHC> !ask | newbie447
[21:04] <jmichaelx> ThomasHC: i don't think most people are having that many problems in 64 bit, as far as i have heard
[21:04] <noaXess> ActionParsnip:  add the options manuall y;)
[21:04] <ThomasHC> ya, it has improved a lot, but hey, you were warned ;)
[21:04] <ActionParsnip> noaXess: indeed
[21:04] <boris> i have the intrepid x64 version and i fell strange the computer... Its just an impression... but i was thinking to down to i386 version... what you think
[21:05] <newbie447> Ok... BCM4302 onboard NIC. detects the AP fine, associates fine, but refuses to obtain an IP address. No passwords on router (ALL security was disabled on the AP for testing purposes).
[21:05] <ThomasHC> if everythign works, boris, then no
[21:05] <ActionParsnip> boris: id clean install if i were changing architecture
[21:05] <ThomasHC> ya
[21:06] <newbie447> Any ideas what I'm doing wrong?
[21:06] <noaXess> ActionParsnip: it's seams same as mine. but on option.. AddARGBVisuals, i think i havn't..
[21:06] <ActionParsnip> newbie447: does it work if you use  static ip?
[21:06] <noaXess> will test it.
[21:06] <ThomasHC> newbie447: what driveR? ndiswrapper or fw cutteR?
[21:06] <noaXess> ActionParsnip: have also enabled the nvidia-hack :) http://www.linewbie.com/2008/01/optimize-nvidia-video-cards-for-kde-4.html
[21:07] <ActionParsnip> noaXess: i have an onboard nvidia geforce 6 and works fine
[21:07] <newbie447> Action: No it doesn't. Thomas: Whatever the driver installer grabbed. Not Ndiswrapper so I'd guess fwcutter
[21:08] <noaXess> ActionParsnip: mine is a gf go 7700.. onboard in a notebook.. and 1680x1050 screen
[21:08] <ThomasHC> Aha, then it's fw cutter
[21:08] <boris> ok thanks to all and good night
[21:08] <ThomasHC> you may try ndis wrapper, busy now so can't link you to a guide
[21:09] <noaXess> by boris
[21:09] <newbie447> I tried ndiswrapper when I was on Hardy, it seemed to load ok but the system never saw the interface (lo and eth0 only)
[21:09] <ActionParsnip> newbie447: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[21:10] <newbie447> Action: see my last
[21:12] <ActionParsnip> newbie447: short answer: broadcom hates linux
[21:12] <ThomasHC> ActionParsnip: noit anymore
[21:12] <ThomasHC> They're making drivers now
[21:12] <ThomasHC> slowly
[21:12] <ActionParsnip> ThomasHC: really?
[21:12] <ThomasHC> and not open source, but hey, it's drivers
[21:12] <ThomasHC> yep
[21:13] <ActionParsnip> ThomasHC: took their swwet time
[21:13] <ThomasHC> yep
[21:13] <newbie447> I'll agree there
[21:14] <newbie447> perhaps a fresh install of 8.10 vs an upgrade from 8.04 will help?
[21:14] <ThomasHC> maybe
[21:14] <ThomasHC> upgrades can be messy sometimes
[21:14] <newbie447> Well I'm D/Ling the 8.10 cd now, so maybe I'll get lucky
[21:14] <ThomasHC> good luck
[21:15] <newbie447> thanx
[21:16] <ThomasHC> no problem
[21:20] <noaXess> ActionParsnip: have no done some tests with xorg.. but.. sometimes any panel probem.. like the klipper icon is only half painted..
[21:20] <noaXess> ActionParsnip: what driver do you have?
[21:20] <ActionParsnip> noaXess: oh, mine does that, i just ignore it
[21:20] <noaXess> ActionParsnip: aha.. also problem :)
[21:20] <ActionParsnip> noaXess: envyng-qt
[21:21] <noaXess> ?
[21:21] <noaXess> i heard about a nvidia driver problem
[21:23] <eneko> que es esto?
[21:24] <Archdevil> eneko, speak english
[21:24] <ActionParsnip> !es | eneko
[21:27] <ActionParsnip> noaXess: are you on the latest firefox update?
[21:28] <noaXess> ActionParsnip: jep.. why?
[21:28] <ActionParsnip> noaXess: does it seem faster than say a month ago?
[21:28] <noaXess> hm.. thats 3.0.4.. i think its faster..
[21:31] <ActionParsnip> noaXess: just checking it wasnt just my config
[21:31] <ActionParsnip> flash 10 is AWESOME!!
[21:32] <ThomasHC> mhm
[21:32] <ActionParsnip> well its a tonne better
[21:33] <Dr_willis> Unh huh.. sure.. :)
[21:33] <noaXess> ActionParsnip: i like ff.. cause nice addons and cool themes..
[21:33] <noaXess> hey Dr_willis
[21:33] <Dr_willis> Soon we will have the FLASH OS! with its own Java Virtualmachine
[21:33] <noaXess> wasup
[21:33] <ActionParsnip> noaXess: i like it because if i use opera i cant access domino webmail for my work
[21:34] <Dr_willis> Ive noticed at Hulu.com flash videos dont work in firefox.. but they do in Opera.
[21:34] <Dr_willis> :)
[21:34] <ActionParsnip> i use opera mainy, so much better than ff
[21:34] <noaXess> ActionParsnip: opera seams also to be a nice browser.. but.. it is always with comercials? the free edition?
[21:35] <Dr_willis> Opera has not had ad's in it for several years now
[21:35] <ActionParsnip> !opera
[21:35] <faemir> some of my kde applications don't remember their window size - anyone help?
[21:35] <Dr_willis> Ive gotten so many extensions for firefox im used to.. i cant just use only  Opera
[21:36] <ActionParsnip> opera for everyday, ff for sites that dont like opera
[21:36] <Dr_willis> I do the opposite...
[21:37] <Dr_willis> FF every day.. and opera for these annoyin flash video sites that for some reason dont like FF.
[21:37] <Dr_willis> :P
[21:37] <ActionParsnip> ive not had a site not like ff
[21:38] <ActionParsnip> !grub > dpf
[21:38] <ActionParsnip> i just dont like it as its sloooooooooooooooooow
[21:38] <Dr_willis> Hulu.com and cbs.com both in the last month have stopped playing their vidows for me under FF.. but Opera did work..
[21:38] <ActionParsnip> but is better recently
[21:40] <ActionParsnip> Dr_willis: does it stay on LOADING forever on CBS.com?
[21:40] <noaXess> grrrr.. on kde3 i had a GUI for convertit.. ot convert any video format to any other video format.. but now in kde4.. i can't find it in mkenu or enywhere.. does anybody know the GUI tool convertit..
[21:40] <uga> anybody knows of a half-official repo for ooo3?
[21:41] <Dr_willis> ActionParsnip,  let me test again.. havent tried it in the last few weeks.
[21:41] <uga> !ooo3
[21:41] <ActionParsnip> noaXess: http://www.smorgasbord.net/converting-video-in-linux-using-ffmpeg-and-mencoder/
[21:41] <uga> !openoffice
[21:41] <faemir> uga: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/openoffice-pkgs/ubuntu intrepid main
[21:41] <uga> faemir: great, thanks
[21:42] <faemir> uga: try googling next time ;)
[21:42] <uga> faemir: there's tons of repos out there
[21:42] <cuznt>  !botsnack
[21:42] <uga> faemir: but most of them aren't too trustworthy
[21:42] <ActionParsnip> !cookie | faemir
[21:42] <phubar_> Hiya folks, anyone know a good place to go for sound help. microphone specifically
[21:42] <Dr_willis> ActionParsnip,  yep seems stuck at loading....-------->  http://www.cbs.com/classics/star_trek/video/video.php?cid=619493214&pid=SDL_v5g9H3S4quuKOiBwRsjir_GuEPF7&play=true
[21:42] <uga> faemir: ie, I can even install openoffice packages, but I don't like the default setups
[21:42] <uga> faemir: I like the kubuntu mods
[21:42] <ActionParsnip> Dr_willis: hmm, weird
[21:42] <faemir> uga: yeh, that's 'official' afaik
[21:43] <sourcemaker> where can I setup konversation... which programm is used to open url?
[21:43] <ActionParsnip> sourcemaker: http://konversation.berlios.de/docs/webbrowser.html
[21:43] <sourcemaker> !konversation
[21:44] <Dr_willis> ActionParsnip,  the site was working good for a long time..  then they 'changed' it a bit and added commercials.. and its been broken for me under FF - under windows AND linux, ever since..
[21:44] <uga> sourcemaker: I suggest you use quassel instead
[21:44] <faemir> I second that
[21:44] <noaXess> ActionParsnip: i had really a really good gui.. Convert IT or something like this.. there i can create some converting profiles...
[21:44] <Dr_willis> ActionParsnip,  Opera under Linux does work.. I think it has somt hing to do with how they do the comercials first. then the show..
[21:44] <sourcemaker> !quassel
[21:45] <sourcemaker> uga: what is quassel?
[21:45] <ActionParsnip> noaXess: then websearch for that, its not something i do
[21:45] <ActionParsnip> !info quassel
[21:45] <uga> sourcemaker: http://quassel-irc.org/
[21:45] <noaXess> i'm on the way.. search deeper and deeper
[21:45] <Archdevil> can I find a sysinfo script for xchat somewhere in the repos?
[21:46] <ActionParsnip> sourcemaker: pidgin for me :)
[21:46] <uga> sourcemaker: a new irc client based on Qt4. It has a great search system, and it's server/client based. You can close the client window, and the server keeps connected to irc logging what happens. You can reconnect to the server later on and see what happenned. And tons of new features like showing previews of url pages etc
[21:46] <sourcemaker> uga: no... I am using konversation with kde4 and when I klick on a url... the url will be open with quanta instead of konqueror
[21:47] <noaXess> ActionParsnip: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=567016
[21:47] <noaXess> ha :)
[21:47] <uga> sourcemaker: you can set the browser in the konversation settings
[21:47] <noaXess> mencoder GUI
[21:47] <phubar_> Microphone not working here. searched all over the web and cant figure out why. Anyone here good with that stuff?
[21:47] <uga> sourcemaker: but I tell you, I suggest you switch to quassel =)
[21:47] <sourcemaker> uga: now... I can't... there is no settings for this...
[21:47] <uga> there was. I know I set it
[21:48] <sourcemaker> uga: in kde4?
[21:48] <uga> uhm... or was it, ...
[21:48] <uga> sourcemaker: yes, in kde4
[21:48] <uga> maybe I set it in kcontrol 3
[21:48] <uga> kcontrol 3 had the ability to set the default browser
[21:48] <uga> and konversation used to read that setting iirc
[21:48] <uga> but there's no kcontrol 3 in kubuntu intrepid =)
[21:49] <sourcemaker> uga: Am I amaurotic? I can't find... :-)
[21:50] <uga> sourcemaker: do you have kcontrol from kde 3?
[21:50] <uga> not sure what the kcm was called
[21:50] <uga> but I knwo there was a browser setting in kde3
[21:50] <sourcemaker> uga: I can setup the default application for file types... there is konqueror set
[21:50] <sourcemaker> uga: or will use konversation kde3 libs?
[21:50] <uga> sourcemaker: "konqueror" does not exist in kde4... that's the problem
[21:51] <uga> sourcemaker: you need to set it to custom konqueror full path
[21:51] <sourcemaker> uga: yes...  it does... :-)
[21:51] <uga> so that it uses the kde4's konqueror
[21:51] <Dr_willis> Huh? I use konqueror under kde4...
[21:51] <sourcemaker> uga: it is working fine for me
[21:51] <uga> sourcemaker: you still have kde3 konqueror there?
[21:51] <uga> or kde4 konqueror?
[21:51] <sourcemaker> kde4 konqueror
[21:51] <uga> sourcemaker: then do what I said =)
[21:51] <uga> point it to your new konqueror version 4
[21:51] <sourcemaker> uga: there is no kcontrol available..
[21:52] <ActionParsnip> sudo apt-get install konqueror
[21:52] <ActionParsnip> ??
[21:52] <sourcemaker> ActionParsnip: konqueror is already installed
[21:52] <Dr_willis> I dont recall having to manually install konqueror in  8.10
[21:52] <Dr_willis> :)
[21:52] <uga> sourcemaker: tough luck. I don't know where the setting was. The problem is konversation is a kde_3_ application and tries using kde_3_ applications and configuration files
[21:52] <uga> and they don't exist...
[21:52] <sourcemaker> uga: so not supported :-)
[21:52] <ActionParsnip> sourcemaker: then try konqueror &
[21:53] <alexei> hi, I am trying to build qt4 with custom patches. is there a way to restart dpkg-buildpackage if that was terminated at compile step?
[21:53] <sourcemaker> ActionParsnip: konqueror is working fine for me... but when I click on a url in konversation... the url is open with quanta web development instead of konqueror... (which is set as default)
[21:53] <uga> ActionParsnip: do you remember where the kde3 binaries went in kubuntu? was it /usr/kde/...?
[21:53] <uga> ActionParsnip: a symlink might do
[21:53] <uga> but not sure
[21:54] <ActionParsnip> uga: yuo could find kde3 from konsole
[21:54] <sourcemaker> uga: it's not a critical issue for me... I can copy and paste the url and open in konversation directly
[21:54] <rtg_> Hi.  I just hosed  my intrepid box, by trying to turn on desktop effects.  Now, all I've got is a black screen with a cursor.  How can I turn off the effects from a console login?
[21:54] <uga> ActionParsnip: there's no kde3 in intrepid anymore, so I don't have it
[21:55] <ActionParsnip> uga: then i dunno bro
[21:56] <uga> sourcemaker: you could report a bug on konversatoin
[21:56] <uga> if package exists, it ought to be supported still
[21:56] <uga> sourcemaker: I switched to quassel myself, and I'm a happy man ;)
[21:57] <sourcemaker> uga: I am installing quassel now
[21:57] <uga> endless  backlogs, unlike konversation
[21:57] <alexei> rtg_:  search for recently changed configs in .kde: find .kde -mtime  -1 or just mv .kde .kde-hide
[21:57] <shadowhywind> hay all have a bit of an issue, openoffice is stuck in fullscreen mode, and i can't figure out how to get it out, any ideas?
[21:57] <uga> shadowhywind: type alt+f3
[21:57] <uga> you'll see a menu
[21:57] <uga> under advanced, you can disable fullscreen
[21:58] <uga> it's a feature in kwin, so it should work for any app
[21:58] <ActionParsnip> shadowhywind: uga: CTRL + SHIFT + J
[21:59] <uga> ActionParsnip: thats' harder to remember though =)
[21:59] <uga> possibly openoffice only?
[21:59] <shadowhywind> well the strange part is nither one worked
[21:59] <ActionParsnip> yep, just got it from the menus
[21:59] <uga> shortcuts never to forget: alt+f2, alt+f3, ctrl+alt+backspace, and reset =)
[21:59] <sourcemaker> uga: where we go... quassel installed :-)
[21:59]  * ActionParsnip throws out a pre-emptive SHABBA!
[22:00] <shadowhywind> the thing, is i do have a the title bar (file/edit/view... etc) however i don't have the the (minimize/maximize/close titlebar)
[22:00] <uga> sourcemaker: run "quasselserver" first. Better, in terminal mode. That way, even if you quit graphical session, irc will be logging
[22:00] <uga> sourcemaker: then "ircclient"
[22:00] <rtg_> alekei:  .kde under my home directory?
[22:00] <uga> sourcemaker: soryr, "quasselclient"
[22:00] <ActionParsnip> shadowhywind: are you running compiz on nvidia?
[22:00] <phubar_> anyone know a channel where I can get soundcard/microphone help?
[22:00] <shadowhywind> ActionParsnip: yes, haven't had this problem before
[22:01] <uga> phubar_: depends on the kind of help
[22:01] <ActionParsnip> shadowhywind: add     Option         "AddARGBGLXVisuals" "True"
[22:01] <ActionParsnip>     Option         "AddARGBVisuals" "True"
[22:01] <uga> shadowhywind: if you use compiz, you aren't using kwin, and thus alt+f3 doesn't work
[22:01] <ActionParsnip> shadowhywind: to /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[22:01] <sourcemaker> uga: ok the server is running on my system?  so I can't shutdown my system and receive missed messages?
[22:01] <ActionParsnip> in options for yuor video card
[22:01] <phubar_> microphone not working in anything I have checked lots of forums and sites to no availe
[22:01] <uga> sourcemaker: you'd need to run the server on a different machine for that
[22:01] <shadowhywind> ActionParsnip: allready have that option, hehe i turned off compiz, and openoffice was stuck in maximize mode
[22:02] <sourcemaker> uga: ok
[22:02] <ActionParsnip> shadowhywind: thats all i got
[22:02] <uga> sourcemaker: you can have multiple clients connected
[22:02] <ActionParsnip> shadowhywind: you got both options?
[22:02] <uga> sourcemaker: so you can connect from home, from work ... using the same server
[22:02] <uga> and it will store and highlight whatever happenned since your last login
[22:02] <sourcemaker> uga: I do not own a server yes... work is still in progress
[22:03] <shadowhywind> ActionParsnip: not sure which one, but i fixed my issue
[22:03] <newbie447> us
[22:03] <uga> sourcemaker: the application is changing fast, and they're still in version 0.3
[22:05] <ActionParsnip> shadowhywind: yep thought so ;)
[22:05] <uga> sourcemaker: one other thing I like is the buffer view. If you have it enabled, you can see what happens in _all_ channels in a single window
[22:05] <noaXess> good night all..
[22:06] <uga> sourcemaker: so you can keep on an important channel, while you monitor the rest in the buffer. If something important happens, you can switch tabs
[22:06] <sourcemaker> uga: cool features
[22:06] <uga> sourcemaker: or you can also hide some channels (while they are still logged)
[22:06] <uga> yes, it's impressive
[22:07] <uga> somebody told me kde4 integration is coming. So far it's only Qt4
[22:09] <phubar_> what is the best program to help test my microphone? sound recorder just comes in blank and skype just fails a test call
[22:10] <uga> phubar_: did you enable all channels in kmix and set recording levels and input?
[22:10] <uga> settings->configure channels... and enable all
[22:10] <uga> then on the right hand you'll possibly see red iconned bars
[22:10] <uga> and something like "input source"
[22:11] <phubar_> I double click the sound level on the sys bar and turned up volume there but how do I get into kmix?
[22:12] <ThomasHC> right click> show mixer window
[22:12] <uga> phubar_: press the button that says "mixer" in the volume bar
[22:13] <phubar_> :( I dont see a mixer button
[22:13] <rtg_> alexei:  Well, renaming .kde and rebooting gave me a desktop, but at 800x600 instead of 1024x768
[22:13] <uga> phubar_: strange. maybe my version which is newer kde 4.2. Try right clicking on the speaker icon
[22:13] <uga> instead of left clicking
[22:14] <cbr> kdelibs 4.2 alpha in jaunty?
[22:14] <uga> phubar_: if everything fails, press "alt+f2", and type in "kmix"
[22:14] <cbr> are you going to upload the whole 4.2 alpha?
[22:14] <uga> that should show the mixer
[22:14] <cbr> cuz that would be SWEET, MAN!
[22:14] <phubar_> aha kmix showed up when I put kmix in konsole
[22:14] <uga> good
[22:14] <uga> phubar_: then now enable all the bars, under settings->configure channels
[22:15] <uga> the elements that show up depend on your soundcard, but on the right hand you'll possibly get recording inputs and settings
[22:17] <phubar_> no option for configure channels. only shorcuts and Kmix
[22:18] <alexei> rtg_:   /etc/init.d/kdm stop then ... start is faster than reboot. 800x600 after login or at login prompt? There are System Settings for user preferences.
[22:20] <uga> phubar_: uhm, and you don't see any recording inputs?
[22:22] <phubar_> if I right click the kmix icon I can "Show mixer window" and then there is an inputs tab
[22:22] <cbr> will kde 4.2 beta1 be uploaded to jaunty?
[22:23] <Tm_T> cbr: yes
[22:23] <uga> phubar_: there should be some channels that relate to recording. You need to select the input as the microphone
[22:23] <Tm_T> cbr: and will have packages for Intrepid too
[22:23] <cbr> Tm_T: anytime soon?
[22:23] <uga> phubar_: and rise the level of the recording bar
[22:23] <Tm_T> cbr: when released and ready
[22:23] <cbr> i see
[22:23] <uga> phubar_: recording channels are usually marked by a red icon, instead of a green one
[22:23] <cbr> nice
[22:24] <phubar_> They all have a soft red glow around them but if I select then it becomes dark red
[22:26] <Mamarok> Tm_T: congratulations :)
[22:27] <Tm_T> Mamarok: danke (:)
[22:27] <Mamarok> Tm_T: boy or girl?
[22:27] <Tm_T> girl, beauty
[22:28] <Mamarok> nice :)
[22:28] <ubuntu_> hi
[22:29] <phubar_> hello
[22:29] <uga> hi phubar_
[22:30] <phubar_> :)
[22:32] <phubar_> uga: any other ideas?
[22:32] <uga> phubar_: not really
[22:32] <phubar_> :) i was afraid of that
[22:32] <uga> if those are enabled and proper input is selected, it should work.... try checking if arts is running and killing if so, but not sure
[22:32] <uga> phubar_: each sound card is a world, but I'd bet it's just a matter of configuration
[22:32] <phubar_> arts?
[22:33] <uga> killall -9 artsd
[22:33] <uga> phubar_: advanced real time sound daemon
[22:33] <uga> now deprecated in kde4
[22:33] <phubar_> $ arts -k?
[22:34] <uga> $ killall -9 artsd
[22:34] <uga> =)
[22:34] <ubuntu_> :(
[22:35] <phubar_> whats wrong ubuntu_
[22:37] <ubuntu_> i don't i cannot install kubuntu in my computer, it have 900 mgz
[22:42] <writher> Anyone else get terrible noise in KRDC if there is a noise played in their remote system?
[22:52] <owner> hllo
[22:52] <owner>   is any 1 here from canada
[22:53] <owner>  i need help with a msn
[22:53] <owner> any 1 here from canada
[22:54] <owner> hello
[22:54] <Dr_willis> Hmm.
[22:54] <owner> can some 1 help me pls
[22:54]  * Dr_willis missed the kubuntu related question.
[22:54] <owner> i need help with a msn
[22:54] <Dr_willis> a msn? or 'amsn' ?
[22:54] <owner> amsn
[22:55] <Dr_willis> !info amsn
[22:55] <Dr_willis> Cant say that ive ever used it..
[22:55] <owner> ok dr willis
[22:55] <Dr_willis> theres other MSN clients out for linux also
[22:55] <Dr_willis> !im
[22:55] <owner>  yeah wat kind
[22:55] <owner> no i want the wone that can use web cam
[22:55] <Dr_willis> use the package maanger and search for  'msn' will proberly find others
[22:55] <owner> i think only amsn can do it
[22:55] <Dr_willis> No idea on web cam..
[22:55] <owner> ok thx
[22:55] <Tm_T> owner: Kopete handles webcam well
[22:56] <owner>  it tell  u how to install it but i dont no where to even start :(
[22:56] <Tm_T> owner: you already have Kopete, if you installed Kubuntu
[22:56]  * Dr_willis is constantly amazed at people that take Text Based Messenging tools and want to voice/video chat... then take their cell phones.. and want to Txt message everyone...
[22:56] <Dr_willis> :)
[22:57] <owner>  does any 1 here knows a bout amsn
[22:57] <Dr_willis> if you really need specific amsn tech support.. they may have their own msn channel... and a homepage/forums
[22:58] <Dr_willis>  youve  Not really stated the problem yu are having with amsn..
[22:58] <owner>  but u say u cant even help mr mr wills
[22:59]  * Tm_T wonders why not try Kopete
[22:59] <Dr_willis> You have not stated an actual 'problem' other then ' you need help, and any 1 knows'
[22:59] <owner> ok thank you
[22:59] <owner> ok
[22:59] <Dr_willis> Unless i totally missed it..
[22:59] <owner>  hold i will the add it told me to go to
[22:59] <owner>  hold pls thank you
[23:01] <owner> www.amsn-project.net/webcamfaq.php
[23:01] <owner>  thats wat it tells me
[23:01] <owner>  but i dont knwo how to do that
[23:01] <owner>  dr wells r u there sir
[23:02] <owner> mr wills
[23:03] <Dr_willis> You just pasted a list of common webcam problems/troubleshooting tips.  so basically your problem is 'the web cam does not work' is what you are telling us?
[23:04] <owner>  i pull inthe web cam and it says it nopt working
[23:04] <owner>  i get the link i hsowin u mr wills
[23:04] <owner> shown
[23:04] <Dr_willis> does the web cam work with other programs? like 'cheese' ?
[23:05] <Dr_willis> not all web cams are supported under linux.
[23:05] <owner>  chesse?
[23:05] <Dr_willis> !info cheese
[23:05] <owner>  wats chees mr wills
[23:05] <owner>  do  i gggole that mr ubottu
[23:05] <owner> gooogle
[23:05] <Dr_willis> You install/run cheese to see if your webcam works
[23:05] <Dr_willis>  !bot
[23:06] <Dr_willis> There may be other tools to use as a test.. but I like Cheese.
[23:06] <owner>  so do i gggole that mr wills
[23:07] <Dr_willis> Google what? Its a program in the package manager, you use the package manager to install it.
[23:07] <owner> oh k
[23:08] <owner>  where do i find that
[23:08] <Dr_willis>  Its a program in the package manager, you use the package manager to install it.
[23:08] <owner>  iam very sorry iam new to this
[23:08] <Dr_willis> !adept
[23:08] <Dr_willis> You may want to spend an hr or 2 reading a few Kubuntu/Ubuntu starter guides then. Not sure if any cover kde4 yet however...
[23:09] <Dr_willis> this is when its often better to start with Ubuntu and gnome, then Kubuntu and KDE.
[23:09] <owner> ok
[23:10] <Dr_willis> If you were uysing gnome - then theres a book  out on learning it from ground zero
[23:10] <Dr_willis> !training
[23:10] <owner>  sorry i though this woudl be the place to ask question was i wrong
[23:10] <Dr_willis> its a little old.. but its still a good read.
[23:10] <owner> can i just go to add and remove programs
[23:11] <Dr_willis> Try it and see..
[23:11] <owner> ok
[23:11] <Dr_willis> i dont use that  'front end' to the package manager much.. its too dumbed down
[23:11] <Dr_willis> You could do 'sudo apt-get install cheese' also
[23:11] <owner>  but i cant go to add and re move prgrams
[23:12] <Dr_willis> SOme how you managed to isntall amsn, so you apranetly know how to isntall stuff..
[23:12] <owner>  yes i wen to remove and add
[23:12] <Dr_willis> Use adept, or the command line i just gave.
[23:12] <owner> how
[23:12] <owner>  where do i start 1st
[23:12] <owner>  do i go remove and stall
[23:12] <phubar_> do you not know how to use the command prompt?
[23:13] <karsten> How do I get KDE4 kwalletmanager GUI up as commandline?
[23:13] <owner> hold pls
[23:13] <owner>  ok i ned u to go step by step to show me where i can located the files or wat ever u tellign me
[23:14] <owner> u m,ean run comand
[23:14] <owner> run comena u mean
[23:14] <owner> comand
[23:14] <phubar_> do you know how to open a console?
[23:14] <karsten> phubar_: <alt><F2> xterm
[23:15] <owner> if u tell me where to find it onmy pc the i can go there
[23:15] <karsten> phubar_: Should work on either KDE or GNOME.
[23:15] <phubar_> heheh thanks and sorry I meant to ask owner
[23:15] <owner>  i know how to located remove programs
[23:15] <karsten> phubar_: I know.  I'm sorry you have to ;-)
[23:15] <owner>  if u tell em excatly whee to located wat ur telling me i can find it
[23:16]  * karsten wonder's what owner's native language is, or how many typing fingers are missing.
[23:16] <owner>  nice jokes
[23:16] <owner>  but nothing is missing
[23:17] <phubar_> owner: it seams alot of what is being said is going over your head. I think Dr_willis was suggesting you do a little research and maybe RTFM a bit on linux basics
[23:18] <karsten> owner: What are you trying to do?
[23:18]  * karsten joined at 15:12 < phubar_> do you not know how to use the command prompt?
[23:18] <owner>  all i was asking  is how to located some of those  things ur telling me
[23:19] <phubar_> yes i do
[23:19] <owner>  my web cam does not work with a msn
[23:19] <karsten> owner: Considering I wasn't here when the things they were telling you were mentioned:  no clue.
[23:19]  * karsten wonders what "a msn" is.
[23:20] <owner>  it  gave me a file where i can go but i just dont knwo how to d program it so i though to come here fo help
[23:20] <owner>  but no 1 is helping
[23:20] <karsten> owner: If you're trying to find files/commands on your system, "which", "locate", and "find" are commands you can use.  'man <command>' will give you info on a specific command.  Invoke all of these by typing appropriate commands into a terminal window.
[23:20] <owner>  amsn is is like msn mesnsnger
[23:20] <karsten> owner: *WHAT* *SPECIFICALLY* *ARE* *YOU* *TRYINJG* *TO* *DO*?
[23:20] <karsten> owner: I can't read your mind.
[23:21] <owner> sory ur typing is to bright
[23:21] <owner> sorry*
[23:21]  * karsten mubles something about dim.... 
[23:21] <owner>  u want to change the colour
[23:21] <owner>  any how is to bad i cant get help here
[23:22] <Dragnslcr> owner- you might have better luck in the channel for your native language
[23:22] <owner>  excuse me
[23:23] <owner>  iam from canada......... where r u from
[23:23] <owner> plus ur sill to have bright colour
[23:23] <Tm_T> owner: english is your native language?
[23:23] <Dragnslcr> I would guess French
[23:24] <owner>  all i been asking is how to use web cam wat do u care
[23:24] <Dragnslcr> !fr | owner
[23:24] <owner>  on amsn
[23:24] <owner>  ur so rude \
[23:24] <Tm_T> owner: your english is very hard to read, that's what I do care
[23:24] <owner>  sorry i dont talk to ppl that r rude
[23:24] <Tm_T> who's rude?
[23:25] <yessine> hello, all
[23:25] <owner>  so i will wait until some one smart comes along
[23:25] <Dragnslcr> That's okay, I don't talk to people that can't type out "people" and "are"
[23:25] <Tm_T> Dragnslcr: nownow
[23:25] <owner>  does any 1 knows how to use web cam on amsn
[23:25] <Dragnslcr> Sorry
[23:25] <Tm_T> owner: I know how to use it on Kopete, as I mentioned some hours ago or so
[23:25] <Dragnslcr> I figure if trying to be helpful gets me called rude, maybe being rude will prove to be helpful
[23:25] <yessine> me too i have the same prob.
[23:26] <owner>  tm
[23:26] <owner>  it was not an hour ago either tm
[23:26] <owner>  u too yess
[23:26] <owner>  well yes they r rude ppl here so i hope u get help
[23:26] <Tm_T> owner: roight, hald an hour
[23:26] <Tm_T> half even (:
[23:27] <owner> tm.......lol
[23:27] <owner>  thanks tm
[23:27] <Tm_T> yessine: what's your issue exactly?
[23:27] <anubis> Anyone ever see where menu fonts are blurred, like they've been rubbed out so to speak?  This happened to me on a page in Mozilla and ALL THE TIME in Wine.
[23:27] <anubis> They look "smudged"
[23:28] <Tm_T> anubis: hmm, wrong kind of "antialisation" ?
[23:28] <anubis> And of course, illegible.
[23:28] <radio_guy> Hello all, new Linux and Kubuntu user. Where do I find how to change the compiz fusion settings in KDE?
[23:29] <Tm_T> anubis: check your antialisation and other font settings first
[23:29] <Tm_T> !compiz | radio_guy
[23:29] <yessine> i like to know how to increase the ktorrent downloading
[23:30] <radio_guy> ubottu- thanks
[23:30] <jonah> hey guys. is there not some sync to mobile app for korganiser so i can plug my mobile in with usb and hit sync and it update my calendar on comp and mobile??
[23:30] <Tm_T> JontheEchidna: what mobile phone?
[23:31] <anubis> Tm_T How do I check that exactly?
[23:31] <Tm_T> jonah: even
[23:31] <JontheEchidna> mobile phone?
[23:31] <JontheEchidna> ah ;-)
[23:31] <yessine> hello aziz
[23:31] <Tm_T> JontheEchidna: sorry, wrong tabfill
[23:31] <jonah> Tm_T: sony ericsson k800i
[23:31] <Dragnslcr> yessine- Settings -> Configure KTorrent -> Network
[23:31] <Dragnslcr> yessine- there's a download limiter there
[23:31] <aziz> hi yessine
[23:32] <yessine> yes
[23:32] <yessine> and so?
[23:32] <Tm_T> anubis: I do not know exactly with Firefox, you might get better luck in #ubuntu
[23:33] <jonah> Tm_T: k800i
[23:33] <Tm_T> jonah: hmm, I'd say you cannot do it over usb
[23:33] <Tm_T> jonah: you might try if your phone have syncing ability over the net
[23:34] <karsten> jonah: What sort of mobile device?  For Palm/Treo, there's jpilot / kpilot / gpilot.
[23:36] <yessine> Dragnslcr thank you friend......................................................
[23:36] <jonah> karsten: it's a sony ericcson k800i, and it's got bluetooth but my computer doesn't so i can only use the usb cable
[23:38] <yessine> is there one site of downloading films????
[23:38] <karsten> jonah: What's your PIM / calendar app?  Kalendar / Kontact?
[23:38] <karsten> jo	I'd look for a plugin / channnel for that.  Not specifically aware of Sony / Ericsson integration.
[23:38] <karsten> jonah: Google sync sony ericsson k800i linux may be a good search.
[23:38] <karsten> jonah: Note it's one c and two sses.
[23:38] <jonah> karsten: i've got korganiser
[23:39] <karsten> jonah: Multisync?
[23:39] <jonah> karsten: isn't that gtk?
[23:39] <karsten> jonah: <shrug>  If it works, don't knock it.
[23:39] <karsten> jonah: Google + KDE.  Maybe kmobiletools
[23:40] <yessine> is there one site of downloading films friends ????
[23:41] <amigrave> is there an alternative to kaudiocreator which is not available anymore ?
[23:44] <karsten> yessine: There's lots.  Try www.youtube.com or www.hulu.com for starters.
[23:45] <karsten> amigrave: Sound editing?  Audacity?
[23:45]  * karsten idles
[23:46]  * jmichaelx hates machines with VIA motherboards
[23:46] <Dr_willis_> hulu has issue for me in firefox.. opera woks with it however.
[23:46] <amigrave> karsten: audio cd ripping
[23:49] <jmichaelx> amigrave: there are a number of CD ripping apps, both GUI and CLI
[23:49] <azzco> Umm the torrent links for alternate installs is not working. http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu/download thought I'd just mention it...
[23:49] <jarrel> i need a good music downloading pakage
[23:50] <Dr_willis_> depends on what network you wish to use jarrel to some degree
[23:50] <Dr_willis_> !frostwire
[23:50] <jarrel> ok..kool
[23:50] <Dr_willis_> !p2p
[23:51] <jmichaelx> jarrel: there are also linux tools for downloading from eMusic and amazon.com
[23:51] <amigrave> jmichaelx: yes but I'm searching one working with kde4 and included in kubuntu
[23:52] <jmichaelx> amigrave: hmm, there used to be a CD ripper bundled with Kubuntu, but i don't seem to see it installed on this system. there is a good ripper called Asunder that you can download and install from getdeb.net
[23:54] <Dr_willis_> there used to be a way to have Konqueror show a music cd as a list of mp3/ogg/wav files in the file manager also
[23:54] <Dr_willis_> :)
[23:54] <jmichaelx> amigrave: from my experience in k/ubuntu, some rippers can rip some CDs, and some can rip others. i am not sure why exactly, but i often have 3 or so different one. generally at least one of them will rip any CD i come up with
[23:55] <jmichaelx> Dr_willis_: yeah, that is another good way.i am almost forgetting about Konqueror these days... it is not in the best of shape
[23:55] <Dr_willis_> cant say that ive ever seen a cd that grip couldent rip...
[23:55] <Dr_willis_> but i dont buy many new cd's :)
[23:56] <Dr_willis_> I cant stand dolphin.. but now a days i tend to use rox-filer
[23:56] <jmichaelx> Dr_willis_: yeah, i use both Asunder and Grip, and USED to use Konq a lot for ripping
[23:56]  * Dr_willis_ is old.. and dosent buy new    music. :)
[23:56] <ubuntu_> poland polska :) jest ktoś
[23:56] <Dr_willis_> last 'new' cd i bought was One by Weird al.
[23:57] <jmichaelx> lol
[23:57] <jmichaelx> i buy a lot of new music, but i generally download it
[23:57] <Dragnslcr> The only CD's I buy are Weird Al
[23:58] <jmichaelx> amigrave: there used to be Kaudiocreator, i believe it was bundled with KDE, but it sucked for the most part
[23:58] <Dr_willis_> seen/heard a few new 'to me' bands at last.fm - but i dont really listen much to music.. its just background noise to me now a days