[00:00] <jmichaelx> interesting. since we are on the subject, i just inserted a CD into a ROM drive that needs to be ripped, and.... nothing happened
[00:00] <amigrave> jmichaelx: kaudiocreator was doing the job fine for me. I tried using dolphin with kio audio slave but it's buggy. Going to try asunder. THanks
[00:01] <_-teal-_> i am getting a strange error when i boot... should i discuss in channel or by /msg?
[00:02] <jmichaelx> Kauiocreator appeared to have one major flaw to me, and that was that you could not increased the bitrate above 128 for the music being ripped... if there was a way, i never discovered it
[00:02] <Dr_willis_> i doubt if i could tell the differance :)
[00:03] <Dr_willis_> i rember  when ripping an audio cd to mp3 was a several hr task... :)
[00:03] <jmichaelx> hmm, i put this CD into my drive, and it is not auto-mounted in KDE4. let me check another CD
[00:04] <_-teal-_> when i boot i get "Cannot allocate region 0" error on my USBs ... but they seem to work after boot... any ideas on what may be wrong, or how to get rid of the error?
[00:04] <jmichaelx> ok, i tried a 2nd CD. same thing. lol
[00:05] <jmichaelx> i like KDE4 in many ways, but it is just so far from truly being ready
[00:05] <_-teal-_> when i boot i get "Cannot allocate region 0" error on my USBs ... but they seem to work after boot... any ideas on what may be wrong, or how to get rid of the error?
[00:07] <jmichaelx> i guess CD ROMs have to be mounted from the command line in kubuntu intrepid?
[00:07] <_-teal-_> when i boot i get "Cannot allocate region 0" error on my USBs ... but they seem to work after boot... any ideas on what may be wrong, or how to get rid of the error?
[00:08] <Dr_willis_> gee.. ask it more often.. i dident catch it the first 5 times... :)
[00:08] <Dr_willis_> Ive never heard the term region used with USB  stuff.. heard it used with DVD Videos
[00:08] <Dr_willis_> jmichaelx  one normally does not mount audio cd's
[00:09] <jmichaelx> _-teal-_: it's OK to repeat your question, but once every 15 minutes would be far more acceptable
[00:09] <jmichaelx> Dr_willis_: one DOES normally mount CDROM drives, as far as i know, but maybe i should just say that the contents of the CD are not viewable in any of my file managers
[00:10] <phubar_> is there a command to tell you what version of linux you are running?
[00:10] <Dr_willis_> check with the mount command.
[00:10] <Dr_willis_> phubar_  lsb_release -a
[00:11] <Dr_willis_> My cd data disks get auto mounted. at leat under gnome.. Not tried it in kde4, there is that mount-gizmo-plamsmid for kde4
[00:11] <_-teal-_> i've tried googling, but most people are getting the same message, but related to their video card.  The message has something to do with PCI, but i can't seem to narrow it down... the devices that the message indicates are the USB controllers, as indicated by `lspci`
[00:11] <phubar_> ty Dr willis
[00:11] <_-teal-_> phubar_: cat /etc/motd
[00:12] <_-teal-_> phubar_: unless you've changed it
[00:13] <jmichaelx> hmm, /dev/cdrom does not exist
[00:13] <_-teal-_> Dr_willis_: any ideas? anything info i can give to help figure it out?
[00:13] <Dr_willis_> _-teal-_  is this message part of some actual problem?    or just a message scaring you?
[00:14] <_-teal-_> jmichaelx: should be /dev/hdc (or sda) something like that...
[00:14] <Dr_willis_> jmichaelx  i noticed on some machines the links from /dev/cdrom to the proper device are wrong
[00:14] <jmichaelx> _-teal-_: i am dealing with a CDROM, not an HD
[00:15] <jmichaelx> Dr_willis_: hmm, that may be what i am dealing with here
[00:15] <Dr_willis_> ls -l /dev/cdrom
[00:15] <Dr_willis_> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 2008-11-18 18:16 /dev/cdrom -> scd0
[00:15] <_-teal-_> Dr_willis_: well as far as i know it's not a problem... i seem to have full function, but the system thinks there's a problem, so i'm inclined to beleive it... ?
[00:16] <Dr_willis_> theres warnings... then theres WARNINGS!... then theres "Danger! Will Robbinson!" warnings. :)
[00:16] <jmichaelx> ls -l /dev/cdrom gives me 'ls: cannot access /dev/cdrom: No such file or directory'
[00:16] <Dr_willis_> id there a /dev/scd0 ?
[00:17] <jmichaelx> lol , now amarok is crashing whenever i try to fire it up. maybe i am needing to reboot.
[00:17] <jmichaelx> Dr_willis_: no, there isn't
[00:18] <_-teal-_> Dr_willis_: it seems to be a pretty big problem with apple hardware... most of the things i've found were people using apple ibooks or older laptops...
[00:18] <jmichaelx> brb
[00:19] <_-teal-_> Dr_willis_: but most people were doind something wrong, had something set wrong... and most people were having trouble with the graphics card in older versions of the OS...
[00:19] <Dr_willis_> But but... apples... are Perfect! :)
[00:19] <_-teal-_> so i haven't found any solution... just people figuring out what their bonehead mistake was, and it's all unrelated...
[00:19] <_-teal-_> their hardware is great...
[00:20] <Dr_willis_> well - thats their claim at least.
[00:20] <_-teal-_> i just put kubuntu on my ibook G4 1.42 GHz ... runs like a champ, battery lasts forever... now that there is finally a way to get the Airport Extreme card working... i love it..
[00:21] <Dr_willis_> I got an iMACDV-DoorStop. :)
[00:21] <_-teal-_> imac DV?
[00:21] <Dr_willis_> Yep.. rember from years back the multi-color all-in-one-with-a-15inch monitor machines?
[00:21] <Dr_willis_> Fruity Colors.. :)
[00:22] <Dr_willis_> replaced later by the 'i-Looks-like-a-lamp' versions...
[00:22] <_-teal-_> my aunt has one like that... also a door-stop...
[00:22] <Dr_willis_> then Apple decided to drop the PPC CPU later....
[00:23] <Dr_willis_> Apple does have an Interesting History.
[00:23] <_-teal-_> i've got the G5 imac... they added isight to the imacs like 2 weeks after i got it, then went to intel chips soon after...
[00:24] <Dr_willis_> Linunx on my PPC Imac - dosetn work very well.. it works.. but the monitor is like 4 characters to the left.. and i never could get it adjusted right.. since the imac 'monitor' adjustment tool was software based.. and with no Apple OS.. no adjustments..
[00:24] <_-teal-_> i got no problem with my ppc machines... the problem i have with the macs is the OS... it's pretty, and very useful, worlds better than M$Win... in my opinion anyway... but there's a lot of things you can't do with it... like installing terminal apps is a pain...
[00:24] <Dr_willis_> Plus with like 256mb ram... its better as a doorstop. :)
[00:25] <_-teal-_> i'm thinking about kubuntu for my imac too, but i'm nervous... i gotta see how things go with this one for a while, and i gotta figure out how to use my ipod with this OS...
[00:25] <BluesKaj> 'evening all
[00:25] <wallabee> how can i open the task manager in kubunutu?
[00:26] <_-teal-_> my ibook's got 1.5Gb ram and the i mac's got 2Gb
[00:26] <Dr_willis_> My latest $500 laptop came with like 4gb ram. :)
[00:26] <Dr_willis_> Gotta love Holiday Sales..!
[00:26] <_-teal-_> but... so no one knows anything about the region 0 error for my USB?
[00:27] <_-teal-_> i'll be going back to 'regular' hardware when these 2 machines are no longer viable...
[00:27] <_-teal-_> i also have a hacked together headless debian machine... it's righteous...
[00:28] <_-teal-_> which log file will contain boot messages?
[00:28] <Dr_willis_> My Headless server.. became the "hooked to the tv so i can watch videos" and be a fileserver machine. :)
[00:28] <wallabee> how can i kill a process in kubuntu? please and thanks
[00:29] <_-teal-_> that's where mine's headed... it sits right under a 32" vizio with VGA input, so it's a no brainer... i need to get a small wireless keyboard...
[00:29] <_-teal-_> and the cables...
[00:29] <_-teal-_> mouse too
[00:29] <BluesKaj> i just use a TiVo , it can draw media from all the pcs on our network
[00:29] <BluesKaj> and vice versa
[00:30] <jmichaelx> OK, in Amarok, it shows the path to the CD ROM drive as being 'cdda:'.  This is new to me. Amarok can see the CD, and so can Asunder, but it doesn't seem to show up in dolphin or konqueror
[00:30] <_-teal-_> but... here's the thing... anyone know about using the apple bluetooth keyboard under debian? that is the smallest lightest keyboard i can find...
[00:30] <Dr_willis_> Im waiting for them to start making TV's with Media-player-mini-pcs in them. :)
[00:31] <_-teal-_> buy a mac mini... run linux on it... hook it to the TV... they're small and pretty decent...
[00:31] <_-teal-_> BluesKaj: an actual Tivo machine?  what model?
[00:32] <colton_> I have kubuntu installed, but what if I wanted to change from using version 3.5 to version 4.1? could I just install it or are there any complications?
[00:32] <Dr_willis_> You dont hear much about mac-minis any more.. saw some in the stores the other day.. sort of all by theirselfs in the corner..  :)
[00:33] <Dr_willis_> I got plenty of old laptops i could use if i wanted.. but The wife uses the Wii to play her videos in the living room.
[00:33] <_-teal-_> yep... they're so into pushing the iphone, ipod touch, and the latest ipods...
[00:33] <_-teal-_> that's where their real money is...
[00:33] <wallabee> wii for videos eh?
[00:33] <_-teal-_> wii with DVDs?  i've heard of this...
[00:33] <_-teal-_> tell me how!
[00:33] <Tm_T> Dr_willis_: _-teal-_: -offtopic
[00:33] <Dr_willis_> Not DVDs
[00:34] <_-teal-_> mp4?
[00:34] <Dr_willis_> video file server.. and the wii browser.
[00:34] <_-teal-_> is it a modification?
[00:34] <Dr_willis_> see orb.com :)   No mods
[00:34] <Tm_T> Dr_willis_: _-teal-_: -offtopic
[00:34] <jmichaelx> i just do not get this new (to me) behavior for CDROMs. wtf is 'cdda'?
[00:34] <jmichaelx> and where is cdda?
[00:34] <_-teal-_> CD Diital audio
[00:34] <_-teal-_> er... digital
[00:34] <_-teal-_> ?
[00:35] <jmichaelx> _-teal-_: amarok is showing the path to my music CD as being 'cdda:'. i have no idea what this means
[00:35] <Dr_willis_> jmichaelx  when ya pop in a cd.. check the dmesg command, see if any info about the drive shows up?
[00:36] <_-teal-_> Dr_willis_: which log file contains boot messages?
[00:36] <jmichaelx> i just mention 'wtf', and look who shows up
[00:36] <abcde2> quick question here: I want to listen radio online with kaffeine, it pops up the error "Codec package is already installed" when I fed it the url. Anyone knows what the problem is?
[00:36]  * jmichaelx ^.^
[00:37] <Dr_willis_> _-teal-_  never really noticed..
[00:37] <wallabee> just need to know how to kill a process in kubuntu 8.10
[00:37] <BluesKaj> _-teal-_, a series 2 plain jane model
[00:37] <Dr_willis_> wallabee  kill command, or killall command, or xkill, or proberly a dozen other ways
[00:38] <jmichaelx> Dr_willis_: i get a bunch of Buffer I/O errors
[00:38] <Dr_willis_> jmichaelx  ew... thats not good..
[00:38] <jmichaelx> on device sr0
[00:39] <abcde2> oops, any pointer on how to fix that kaffeine error?
[00:40] <|DarkSmoke|> guys
[00:40] <BluesKaj> _-teal-_, the trick is in the python apps called pyTivo and shell scipt written for the Tivo that are available for all 3 major OSs
[00:40] <|DarkSmoke|> what prog can i use to convert an divx/avi to dvd
[00:40] <|DarkSmoke|> mpeg2/vob
[00:40] <BluesKaj> ffmpeg
[00:40] <jmichaelx> Dr_willis_: Buffer I/O error = very bad?
[00:40] <_-teal-_> Nov 18 18:21:28 ibook kernel: [    0.120274] PCI: Cannot allocate resource region 0 of device 0001:10:18.0
[00:40] <_-teal-_> Nov 18 18:21:28 ibook kernel: [    0.120299] PCI: Cannot allocate resource region 0 of device 0001:10:19.0
[00:40] <_-teal-_> that's from kern.log
[00:40] <_-teal-_> ?
[00:41] <_-teal-_> 0001:10:18.0 USB Controller: Apple Computer Inc. KeyLargo/Intrepid USB
[00:41] <_-teal-_> 0001:10:19.0 USB Controller: Apple Computer Inc. KeyLargo/Intrepid USB
[00:41] <_-teal-_> from `lspci`
[00:41] <_-teal-_> any ideas?
[00:42] <jmichaelx> _-teal-_: i hate to do it to ya, but...
[00:42] <jmichaelx> !paste | _-teal-_
[00:42] <_-teal-_> 2 lines? really?
[00:42] <|DarkSmoke|> i want something graphical BluesKaj
[00:42] <Dr_willis_> Means nothing to me other that its a  warning message.. if the system works..  why worry about it.
[00:43] <_-teal-_> i'm obsessive compulsive?
[00:43] <Dr_willis_> Sounds like an APple User...
[00:43] <Dr_willis_> :) did i say that outloud?
[00:43] <Dr_willis_> :P
[00:43] <_-teal-_> no... you're so right...
[00:43] <jmichaelx> Dr_willis_: would a Buffer I/O error 'possibly' indicate some faulty hardware?
[00:44] <Dr_willis_> jmichaelx  could be.. dirty cd/lense/drive/loose/cut cable..
[00:44] <jmichaelx> this machine is only a month of so old
[00:44] <jmichaelx> or*
[00:44] <Dr_willis_> i had an ide cabvle with a little bitty 'cut' on one edge.. cutting 1 wire...
[00:44] <Dr_willis_> took me forever to find that.
[00:45] <Dr_willis_> Sharp case edge had just nicked it..
[00:45] <jmichaelx> Dr_willis_: but then, interestingly, i can play music from CDs from this drive... it's just that nothing shows up in file managers
[00:45] <Dr_willis_> with a file manager.. audio cd's normally do NOT show anything..
[00:45]  * jmichaelx is perplexed
[00:46] <Dr_willis_> We discussed those addons for Konqueror that did let them show files as 'wav/ogg/mp3'
[00:46] <jmichaelx> Dr_willis_: since when? i have always been able to see the contents of a music CD from konquerer or nautilus or dolphin
[00:46] <Dr_willis_> one normally does not mount audio cd's  - data cd's yes..
[00:46] <Dr_willis_> jmichaelx  they are using some addons  to show the tracks then.
[00:46] <Blues-Man> hi all
[00:47] <Blues-Man> i have a problem with bluetooth on kde 4 due this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase-workspace/+bug/280997
[00:47] <Dr_willis_> try accessing them without the file manager.. ie: from the terminal.
[00:47] <Blues-Man> but i can't pair device anyway with rfcomm
[00:47] <Blues-Man> how to deal with that?
[00:47] <Dr_willis_> I dont even have an audio cd to test...
[00:48] <Blues-Man> i put rfcomm.conf and hcid.conf like a debian pc where bluez is working and I can pair devices
[00:48] <Dr_willis_> jmichaelx  thts proberly what that cdddb: thing was earlier.. a kioslave that got the cd/trackinfo from the internet and showed the tracks as 'files'
[00:50] <Blues-Man> so how to use bluez for pairing and making /dev/rfcomm* device ?I put all the stuff in the correct way but maybe KDE starts something
[00:50] <jmichaelx> Dr_willis_: i guess i have learned something new
[00:50] <Dr_willis_> jmichaelx  :) i stated this earlier.. but i guess i wasent clear.
[00:51] <Dr_willis_> the way kde uses those KIO-Slaves is very handy.. but can cause.. confusion.
[00:51] <jmichaelx> Dr_willis_: you were clear, but i didn't believe you :-)
[00:51] <aljosa> is there a repository that tracks/contains packages for current kde 4.2 trunk?
[00:52] <JontheEchidna> !neon
[00:52] <Dr_willis_> I think that dvd-videos disks dont get mouunted either by the media players..but i could be wrong on that.. never really checked into it.
[00:53] <jmichaelx> Dr_willis_: so is it likely that these same kio-slaves are just not functioning at this point in kubuntu intrepid?
[00:53] <Dr_willis_> Its possible
[00:53] <Dr_willis_> kde4 is still a work in progress
[00:53] <Dr_willis_> Im not in kde4 to check.. and i got no audio cd's handy either.
[00:53] <Dr_willis_> i know that gnome tries to auto play all this stuff forme..
[00:54] <Dr_willis_> BUT still you should be able to run a cd player and play the things
[00:54] <billyd> KDe seems to be actually in a beta state
[00:54] <jmichaelx> kde4 being a work in progress is putting it lightly, but i guess it is coming along
[00:54] <jmichaelx> billyd: or alpha
[00:54] <billyd> you're being charitable
[00:55] <jmichaelx> i do like it, but there is a fair bit of functionality missing, as we all know
[00:56] <jmichaelx> OK, to prove Dr_willis_ point, the contents of the CD does show up in nautilus... just not in konqueror or dolphin
[00:57] <_-teal-_> Dr_willis: where do i enter kernel parameters (like pci=) and once i figure out the correct one to use where do i enter it so it's used by default?
[00:58] <_-teal-_> Dr_willis_:
[00:58]  * jmichaelx wonders what a reasonable amount of space is that one should allow for the root directory
[00:58] <billyd> I got an old Dell work station 340 loaded with SUSE 10.1 and I aslo got a 386 8.04 CD that I could put in there, but until I'm satisfied with 8.10, I'll leave SUSE in it
[00:59] <billyd> Main thing is to find a PCI video card that understands LCD monitors
[00:59] <billyd> LED
[00:59] <_-teal-_> Dr_willis_: ?
[00:59] <Dr_willis_> _-teal-_ >?
[01:00] <Dr_willis_> Brad? Marsha! Janet!
[01:00] <_-teal-_> Dr_willis_: where do i enter kernel parameters (like pci=) and once i figure out the correct one to use where do i enter it so it's used by default?
[01:00] <jmichaelx> "There's a story, of a lovely lady......."
[01:00] <Dr_willis_> _-teal-_  /boot/grub/menu.lst has a spot for them.. read the comments carefully
[01:01] <_-teal-_> and what about to try them out? at what point in the boot do i specify them?
[01:01] <Dr_willis_> You can edit the kernel boot options from the grub menu. (hit e)
[01:01] <_-teal-_> mmm... i don't think i'm using grub...
[01:01] <derrick> hey
[01:01] <Dr_willis_> Grub is the wonder tool of the ages.:)
[01:02] <Dr_willis_> _-teal-_  i have no idea what bootloader Macs use.. sorry.
[01:02] <_-teal-_> ppc uses something else... forgot what it's called...
[01:03] <Dr_willis_> I dont rember what ppc machines use for a bootloader..
[01:05] <|DarkSmoke|> hi
[01:06] <|DarkSmoke|> is there any prog to convert avi to mpeg
[01:06] <|DarkSmoke|> gui
[01:06] <|DarkSmoke|> qt if posible..
[01:11] <matt____> How can I rip to mp3 320 in k3b for kubuntu 8.10/
[01:11] <matt____> What do I need installed?
[01:12] <Dr_willis_> why do you need  a gui if a single command can do it.. :)
[01:12] <matt____> Dr_willis_: You talking to me buddy?
[01:12] <Dr_willis_> mencoder and ffmpeg can convert.. BUT an avi file is a container.. while i think mpeg is a codec..
[01:13] <Dr_willis_> matt____  i just use grip to rip audio cd's :)
[01:13] <Dr_willis_> Never tried the latest k3b features of that.
[01:13] <matt____> Dr_willis_: I tried grip..I seem to like k3b..it's nice and fast. easy to setup in suse, but I need something else installed here I believe.
[01:13] <Dr_willis_> It seems these cd burning apps are getting  the feature
[01:13] <Dr_willis_> 'enhancements' of nero. :) ie: so much stuff.. that often dosent work..
[01:14] <Dr_willis_> matt____  I DO recall there being some extra package for k3b to fully support mp3's
[01:14] <Tm_T> k3b-mp3 ?
[01:14] <Dr_willis_> do an 'apt-cache search k3b' :)   that sounds right Tm_T
[01:15] <matt____> Dr_willis_: I've installed all the extracodecs and stuff listed there.
[01:15] <bazhang_> !info libxine1-ffmpeg
[01:16] <matt____> bazhang_: Me?
[01:16] <bazhang_> !mp3
[01:16] <bazhang_> check there matt____ ^^
[01:16] <Dr_willis_> I tend to do 'shotgun' installs and install about anything  that even seems related... :)
[01:17] <Dr_willis_> But i dont even have an audio cd handy to test k3b ripping features
[01:18] <azzco> I'm downloading a alternate install cd atm. For the last 3 releases or so I have not been able to use the system after installation due to graphics drivers. Is there any way to ensure that a certain driver is used before installation finishes?
[01:18] <Dr_willis_> what video card?
[01:18] <karsten> Dr_willis_: I tend to do minimal installs (well, for Debian, Ubuntu's a different animal w/ its default desktop tasksel), and add in the stuff I can't live without.  Works out to about 1600 - 2600 packages most of the time regardless
[01:18] <azzco> GeForce 7600 GS MSI
[01:18] <Dr_willis_> Normally one caninstall the nvidia drivers from the command line if you want..
[01:19] <Dr_willis_> I seem to recall seeing 7600 often being a problem card... Not sure why..
[01:19] <azzco> Yeah but thing is that the virtual terminals are also corrupted
[01:19] <Dr_willis_> I dont own one.. , but my 5500, and 6800, and 8800 all work great in 8.10
[01:20] <Dr_willis_> Of course it seems with 8.10 a LOT ofpeople have had nvidia issues. :(
[01:20] <ubuntu_> bonjour
[01:20] <azzco> Okay hopefyully I'll have beter luck with this release then. I've noticed the error trying to install fedora as well.
[01:24] <rtg_> alexei: I hosed myself completely.  I ran dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg thinking it would redetect my video card and monitor, and now it won't even boot.  The boot messages stop at 'checking battery status'.  Looks like I go to square one and reinstall.
[01:25] <jabrroa> ooo ouch
[01:26] <jabrroa> thats what i would do
[01:28] <ubuntu_> ici on pqrle francais
[01:34] <Dr_willis_> Hmm
[01:34] <Dr_willis_> i dont see how xorg.conf being missconfiured would cause that..
[01:35] <Dr_willis_> azzco  for the vt's beung currupted.. i often disable the framebuffer, and splash screens and it helps those.
[01:52] <surplusxmas> Looking for a good GUI mass file renamer. Any suggestions?
[01:52] <Dr_willis_> I just use qmv, and no its not gui. :)
[01:52] <Dr_willis_> but it depends on what you are exactly doingto the names I guess...
[01:52] <Devourer> Whenever ever a 3rd window of Firefox opens FF freezes.
[01:53] <surplusxmas> Dr_willis_: I just want to rename my music to have a consistent naming scheme.
[01:53] <surplusxmas> 01 Song Title.ext
[01:53] <dwidmann> surplusxmas: try krename
[01:53] <surplusxmas> Thanks dwidmann. :)
[01:53] <dwidmann> surplusxmas: or perhaps amarok
[01:54] <surplusxmas> Ah, yeah, amarok may have some use in this.
[01:54] <colton_> Does anyone know how I could change the directories in kdevelop to include some headers that aren't there by default?
[01:58] <clayX> in dolphin, i want to share a folder, and it says 'you need to be authorized to share folders'.  how do i authorize myself to do so?
[01:59] <JontheEchidna> clayX: if you run dolphin by tying "kdesudo dolphin" you should have the proper permissions
[02:00] <Dr_willis_> Err...
[02:00] <Dr_willis_> Im not sure thats the proper way to do that..
[02:00] <Dr_willis_> the group sambashare i THINK is what group a user needs tobe in enable to share directories on the fly like that.
[02:00] <JontheEchidna> ah, right
[02:01] <Dr_willis_> clayX  is this your initial user thats trying to do this?or some extra added users?
[02:01] <phubar_> anyone know of an program that lets you easily adjust webcam brightness and contrast lvls?
[02:01] <Dr_willis_> Personally I edit the smb.conf and let all users have their Homes as a share..
[02:01] <clayX> i am the only user
[02:02] <clayX> i want to share /media to my xbmc
[02:02] <Dr_willis_> clayX  its possible its a bug in dolphin. check your /etc/group file and seeifyour user is in the sambashare group
[02:03] <clayX> i don't see /etc/group
[02:03] <Dr_willis_> a user cold not share that anyway
[02:03] <clayX> i see /etc but not group
[02:03] <clayX> what?
[02:04] <Dr_willis_> a user cant share a system dir
[02:04] <Dr_willis_> that cold be bad
[02:04] <clayX> hmm
[02:04] <Dr_willis_> manuallt make the share  in smb.conf
[02:05] <clayX> i'm new with linux.  i have 4 hard drives i want to share my data out with samba/smb, the drives mount to /media
[02:05] <Dr_willis_> !samba
[02:06] <Dr_willis_> its doable
[02:06] <GGoby> Hi all...
[02:07] <clayX> i would hope so :)  thanks a lot
[02:07] <phubar_> webcam is super dark anyone know an easy app to adjust systemwide webcam brightness / contrast
[02:08] <Dr_willis_> you also may need to be sure the samba server is installed.. and you could just edit the smb.conf and share /media/ it maybe better tohave 4 shares.  one for each Mounted drive
[02:08] <GGoby> New to the newer version of KDE interface....I can't figure out how to move my panel from left to center or right...or change the length..anyone advise?
[02:09] <Dr_willis_> GGoby  use the 'cashew' at the right side.. it canenable some mode where you can adjust the size and location
[02:09] <Dr_willis_> its a little... weird..:)
[02:09] <GGoby> Dr_willis_: Ok thank you...
[02:10] <GGoby> Dr_willis_: Now that is wild...
[02:10] <dwidmann> Speaking of things, I managed to compile kde 3.5.9 in intrepid last night (wasn't a picnic)
[02:10] <Dr_willis_> GGoby  yea its sort of like how you set margins in a word processor.. :) i think
[02:11] <GGoby> Dr_willis indeed...I like it though...would be nice to have right click at least tell you about the cashew...
[02:12] <Dr_willis_> I cant even figure out how to get the clock to be 12 hr format...
[02:12] <Dr_willis_> :)
[02:12] <GGoby> Dr_willis_: Now I find that hard to believe.... ;-)
[02:13] <Dr_willis_> of course it was a pain in the old kde also....
[02:13] <GGoby> Dr_willis_: You don't still add the ph prefix or whatever it was?
[02:13] <Dr_willis_> For now.. i am using Gnome and 'jwm+Rox-Filer' on my machines... I will wait a while for kde4 service pack 1 :P
[02:13] <Dr_willis_> GGoby i cant even find where to set the time/date format..
[02:14] <GGoby> Ahhh
[02:14] <Dr_willis_> I havent looked  lately however. :)
[02:14] <Dr_willis_> Id be happy if the clock widget had a check box for it..
[02:14] <Dr_willis_> Perhaps i want 24 hr format in most apps.. but that CLOCK i want am/pm :)
[02:16] <walbert> Hey there... the tabs on all of my gtk+ applications (especially firefox) seem a little too short for their contents.  Is there anything I can do? (up-to-date kubuntu 8.10)
[02:16] <GGoby> What is the name of the bot here? kubotu??
[02:17] <JontheEchidna> ubottu and kubotu
[02:17] <JontheEchidna> lol
[02:17] <GGoby> JontheEchidna: Kewl....yeah figured it out...
[02:17] <Dr_willis_> !bot
[02:17] <GGoby> Thanks though..heheh
[02:18] <walbert> Anyone?
[02:19] <Dr_willis_> Tey look fine here..
[02:20] <walbert> hrm
[02:20] <walbert> under appearance in system settings, what settings do you have for GTK Styles and Fonts?
[02:21] <Dr_willis_> actually.. i just rembered.. Im in gnome right now.. :) so that may be why they look fine..
[02:21] <Dr_willis_> Other box  is kde..
[02:21] <Dr_willis_> :P
[02:21] <walbert> ha
[02:21] <walbert> okay, then
[02:21] <Dr_willis_> heh-- its late...
[02:33] <GGoby> I'm running Kubuntu in a virutalized environment...NAT has assigned a network ip of 192.168.2.X, my LAN is running on 192.168.1.X with a 255.255.255.0  I want to learn how to setup a NFS server in Kubuntu and be able to access it from my 192.168.1.X network...how would this be done?
[02:35] <Tm_T> !away > Dedi
[02:40] <matu> hi
[02:41] <matu> alguien sabe en donde esta la lista con los drivers de video?
[02:42] <karsten> !es
[02:43] <JediatNight> katu : Kein espanol please
[02:43] <JediatNight> *matu
[02:43] <karsten> JediatNight: Bu shu schpanish si'l vous plait, da?
[02:44] <Cannoli> hey there
[02:45] <Cannoli> if a terminal says that apt-get is not a command, how can i download the apt-get program?
[02:45] <karsten> Cannoli: sudo apt-get
[02:45] <Dr_willis_> I imagine (hope) your path is wrong..
[02:45] <Cannoli> yea i get an error
[02:46] <karsten> Cannoli: You're probably running apt-get as your normal (non-root) user, for which apt-get isn't on the path.
[02:46] <JediatNight> cannoli: I need help in understanding what that means :/
[02:46] <Cannoli> sudo: apt-get: command not found
[02:46] <Dr_willis_>    /usr/bin/apt-get
[02:46] <karsten> Cannoli: Check that, it's in /usr/bin
[02:46] <karsten> Cannoli: Are you *sure* you're on your ubuntu / kubuntu host?
[02:46] <karsten> Cannoli: Otherwise, try:  "which aptitude"
[02:46] <Cannoli> no im not
[02:47] <karsten> Cannoli: Run 'lsb_release -a'
[02:47] <karsten> Cannoli: ... and or tell us what host you're on.
[02:47] <Cannoli> im on backtrack
[02:47] <karsten> ??
[02:47] <karsten> What's backtrack?
[02:48] <Cannoli> 3
[02:48] <dennis__> hi
[02:48] <Cannoli> lsb_release -a is not a command
[02:48] <Cannoli> :(
[02:48] <karsten> Cannoli: You're not on an Ubuntu host.  What's 'uname -a' tell you?
[02:49] <Cannoli> Linux bt 2.6.21.5 #4 SMP Thu Apr 10 04:23:56 GMT 2008 i686 Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU     T5250  @ 1.50GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux
[02:49] <Pici> Cannoli: Backtrack is not Ubuntu
[02:49] <karsten> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BackTrack
[02:49] <Pici> Cannoli: Try ##linux or their support channel if you need help with that distro.
[02:50] <Cannoli> oh ok
[02:50] <Cannoli> srry for the inconvienence
[02:50] <karsten> Cannoli: What Pici Said.  Either find a Backtrack Linux support channel, or install Ubuntu,.
[02:50] <tboxmy> why does the external laptop display on 8.10 have flickering problems?
[02:50] <Cannoli> alrighty. thanks for the help. sorry to bug ya
[02:50] <tboxmy> how to make it go away?
[02:51] <karsten> tboxmy: Could be lots of stuff.  What's your GPU, what's the external monitor, how have you configured it?  For starters, check your cabling and seating.
[02:51] <karsten> tboxmy: If you're using any sort of KVM or docking station, check all connections there as well.
[02:51] <tboxmy> its working fine on 7.10 till I installed 8.10
[02:51] <h00k> tboxmy: I actually saw a post.......on how to fix it.
[02:52] <h00k> tboxmy: unfortunately, I have no idea how.
[02:52] <h00k> tboxmy: or where that was.  but it /is/ out there
[02:52] <tboxmy> its a direct connection to a Likom monitor. same problem with Epson projector
[02:52] <karsten> h00k: Recall any useful Googling keywords?
[02:53] <tboxmy> am looking out but none on 8.10
[02:53] <h00k> standby, I'll see if I can find it
[02:53] <tboxmy> however, 7.10 was working perfectly fine.
[02:56] <cameri> why every time i start kubuntu, my desktop screen goes back to some screen size, instead of the last one i configured?
[02:56] <matt____> I can't get soundkonverter to recognize any audiocds, any reason why?
[02:57] <h00k> tboxmy: it had something to do with xrandr I believe
[02:57] <matt____> I can't get soundkonverter to recognize any audiocds, any reason why? OR...what is the easier way for making 320 mp3?
[02:58] <h00k> tboxmy: which graphics card do you have?
[03:02] <jarrel> Broadcom Corporation BCM94311MCG any can help me here
[03:03] <tboxmy> found that its a bug
[03:04] <tboxmy> h00k: lspci output
[03:04] <tboxmy> h00k:
[03:04] <tboxmy> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
[03:04] <tboxmy> 00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS/GME, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
[03:08] <matt____> I can't get soundkonverter to recognize any audiocds, any reason why? OR...what is the easier way for making 320 mp3?
[03:09] <courtjesterg> so i've been trying to play yoville app from myspace can never get past the start menu using firebug i come up with this
[03:09] <courtjesterg> Permission denied to call method Location.toString
[03:09] <courtjesterg> [Break on this error] undefined
[03:09] <courtjesterg> GET http://api.msappspace.com/opensocial-api-v1.svc/JSON/opensocial/VIEWER/profile?opensocial_surface=canvas&ts=1227064008957&detailtype=BASIC 259msMyOpenSp...Engine.js (line 269)
[03:09] <courtjesterg> POST http://api.msappspace.com/proxy/relay.proxy?opensocial_authtype=SIGNED&opensocial_token=3BMlgW/SGnQ3HM+e35hwWNqsOgZo60ysmbtEs+WUcrAHieuWKrxvmR/wUVPdqKMpCnxpR2j0mT+g/FTRhXj/8yIZpPi9ZpFSsWI+cLzYXMo=&opensocial_url=http%3A//yoload.zynga.com/ms/index.php 4msMyOpenSp...Engine.js (line 332)
[03:09] <courtjesterg> Permission denied to get property Location.toString
[03:09] <courtjesterg> [Break on this error] if(typeof deconcept=="undefined"){var de...bject;var SWFObject=deconcept.SWFObject;
[03:10] <Cannoli> !autodep
[03:10] <courtjesterg> it worked fine in windows with firefox
[03:10] <Cannoli> what is an autodep?
[03:12] <tboxmy> thanks all, the projector problem fixed by stoping the xrandr services
[03:17] <GGoby> I am reading the wiki on restricted formats..there isn't anything there for 8.10 Kubuntu or Ubuntu...where can I find updated information on installing flash etc..?
[03:19] <mister-tea> !restricted
[03:20] <mister-tea> I dunno if this helps
[03:30] <jabrroa> hello
[03:31] <mister-tea> !hi
[03:31] <jabrroa> haha those bots crack me up lol
[03:37] <jmichaelx> !manners
[03:37] <jmichaelx> !manners | jabrroa
[03:37]  * JontheEchidna doesn't see how jabrroa was being impolite...
[03:38] <jmichaelx> he was mocking the bots!
[03:38] <JontheEchidna> or those who use them :P
[03:38] <jmichaelx> lol
[03:38] <jmichaelx> those who use them deserve to be mocked
[03:38] <JontheEchidna> ubottu: sic em'!
[03:39] <jabrroa> WTF!!
[03:39] <jabrroa> haha lol
[03:39]  * JontheEchidna goes off to bed
[03:43] <GGoby> !java
[03:43] <DarkriftX> anyone here know how i mark something as spam for spam assasin (in kmail)? it shows spamassasin 39% chance its spam and id figure there would be a method to report it (its a paypal phishing email)
[03:45] <jabrroa> hehe
[03:45] <jabrroa> !help
[03:45] <jabrroa> lol
[04:06] <DoubleD> can anyone tell me why I should stay with 8.10 KDE4.1.2? Or should I go with 8.04 KDE 3.5? I'm a noob and I need some guidance.
[04:08] <mister-tea> DoubleD:  go with your heart
[04:08]  * mister-tea is still on 8.04
[04:10] <DoubleD> mister-tea: I haven't used 8.04.. I started out fresh with 8.10 and KDE4
[04:11] <zhuzi> 源设为main sever。硬件驱动点激活怎么还没反应呢
[04:11] <mister-tea> how noob are you, coming from xp or vista?
[04:11] <DoubleD> I'm already having issues (known) with cmake. I'm not enjoying that KDE never remembers any panel layouts.. the desktop folder box is annoying
[04:11] <mister-tea> !ch
[04:12] <DoubleD> .. Vista was the last,. I've been around since msdos 6.11 though
[04:13] <mister-tea> personally I like 8.04 it's stable and very few issues
[04:13] <DoubleD> I've tried a pile of different distros.. The last one I gave up on was gentoo but I'm really enjoying kubuntu besides these few things with kde4
[04:13] <mister-tea> I've tried many also kubuntu is my favorite
[04:14] <DoubleD> I've been reading piles of forum posts about everyone's experience with KDE4 and for the most part it isn't really living up to it's name (yet)
[04:15] <mister-tea> this box runs ubuntu 8.04 my other is kubuntu, yes 8.10 has many issues at the moment
[04:15] <DoubleD> I like the eye-candy.. blame M$ for that particularly vista.. It's pretty but not functional. But really what am I going to lose if I go back to KDE 3.5 and 8.04?
[04:15] <mister-tea> if you aren't comfotable in linux it's not for you
[04:16] <mister-tea> 8.04 has great eye candy too
[04:16] <mister-tea> !compiz
[04:16] <DoubleD> well that's what I mean. compiz and emerald
[04:16] <Pyyhekumi> Grat. I just installed this newst Kubuntu, and it didn't use second graphic card. I now have only one screen in use, and two just black (the other graphic card). What could I do?
[04:16] <Pyyhekumi> Great
[04:17] <DoubleD> I've got an 8800gtx it's just flying in kde4. But I've got random plasma crashes on start-up.. amarok plugin's aren't really functioning.. There just seems to be a big list of everything that hasn't been incorporated yet
[04:18] <DoubleD> what do you mean by 'comfortable with linux'.. is that a comparison to my dependency on a GUI to operate it?
[04:18] <mister-tea> no I mean can you trouble shoot your own bugs?
[04:19] <Devourer> Has anyone here used recordmydesktop?
[04:19] <DoubleD> I can read, the kubuntu community is huge. So far I've been able to track down and resolve and issues I've had
[04:19] <DoubleD> any*
[04:20] <mister-tea> that's what I'm saying you may be happier with a more stable release
[04:20] <mister-tea> from what I've heard the bug reports are many in 8.10
[04:21] <DoubleD> so how about KDE4 in 8.04? is that any different?
[04:21] <DoubleD> or is that irrelevant?
[04:21] <Devourer> It's working fine for me so far.
[04:21] <mister-tea> I dunno because I never upgraded
[04:22] <DoubleD> oh okay.. is there a particular reason why you haven't yet?
[04:22] <mister-tea> yes I fear the bug issues will mess with my box and that one I share with my wife
[04:23] <Devourer> What bugs?
[04:23] <DoubleD> ah. yes.. the wife.
[04:23] <Devourer> They may be bugs that have nothing to do with what you do.
[04:23] <mister-tea> this box won't run kubuntu for some reason I have yet to determine
[04:24] <Devourer> It's run Ubuntu?
[04:24] <mister-tea> Devourer: he said he is experiencing some
[04:24] <Devourer> DoubleD, what bugs?
[04:24] <DoubleD> Devourer: I simply tried to compile an SVN vers of KMess today and due to the messy handling of prefix's with cmake I'm stuck.
[04:24] <DoubleD> Devourer: forgive me, I'm really new. Two weeks in 8.10
[04:24] <mister-tea> htis box yes runs ubuntu but bear in mind I built it from parts from dumpsters and roadsides
[04:25] <Devourer> DoubleD, oh. What's KMess? Messenger?
[04:25] <DoubleD> Devourer: ya I can't live without MSN
[04:25] <mister-tea> !kopete
[04:25] <Devourer> DoubleD, yeah, I've had issues compiling KDE4 on Kubuntu.
[04:25] <DoubleD> I iggin hate Kopete
[04:26] <Devourer> DoubleD, some reason I think the directories on how Kubuntu is set is different than what cmake expects.
[04:26] <Devourer> set up*
[04:26] <mister-tea> sorry
[04:26] <Devourer> Yeah, Kopete is... I don't know.
[04:26]  * mister-tea likes kopete
[04:26] <Devourer> Pidgin was nice.
[04:26] <DoubleD> Devourer: yes exactly and I guess since I ran ./configure than tried to use cmake something is set with cmake that won't recognize anything I put in the command line which results in a perpetual error
[04:27] <coreymon77> erm
[04:27] <coreymon77> mercury messenher anyone?
[04:27] <Devourer> Never heard of it.
[04:27] <coreymon77> i useit on all 3 oses
[04:27] <DoubleD> Mercury is ugly as sin
[04:27] <Devourer> I just use Gmail's built in messenger now. I wish it had MSN though. :o
[04:27] <coreymon77> who gives a rats butt what it looks like
[04:27] <coreymon77> it works well
[04:28] <coreymon77> and it gives me continuity over the three oses that i use
[04:28] <DoubleD> I just came from vista, cut me some slack.
[04:28] <Devourer> Well, sometimes looks are linked with how usable it is.
[04:28] <coreymon77> not with mercury
[04:28] <coreymon77> its granted not the prettiest im out there
[04:28] <DoctorPepper> hi guys!
[04:28] <coreymon77> but it works well
[04:28] <Devourer> With Kopete I think so. I hated those popup things.
[04:28] <Stompzi> use bitlbee  = continuity across os's ;)
[04:28] <coreymon77> i use it on windows, macos and linux
[04:28] <DoubleD> I tried mercury and it lasted maybe 10 minutes. I would rather use kopete
[04:29] <DoubleD> aMSN was 2nd to KMess
[04:29] <Devourer> Everytime I got a message a stupid message would say, 'LOOK! YOU GOT A MESSAGE. DO YOU WANT TO REPLY?'
[04:29] <Devourer> DoubleD, Hotmail has in browser support of MSN. ;0
[04:30] <mister-tea> you can change those settings
[04:30] <DoubleD> Devourer: but MSN Live's web page throws an incompatible browser error with firefox from 'nux. you have to click a continue link to get to your mail
[04:30] <DoubleD> Devourer: I also didn't realize they had http messenger directly from M$ though.
[04:31] <Devourer> DoubleD, there are many other messengers.
[04:31] <coreymon77> best online = meebo
[04:31] <DoubleD> Devourer: I've tried them all.. Meebo is a good online one. I've used before when I was working in a call centre for a bit
[04:32] <DoubleD> Emesene has potential but it isn't very usable
[04:32] <DoubleD> too much reliance on plug-ins to do things it should in the first place
[04:32] <Devourer> DoubleD, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miranda_IM
[04:32] <Devourer> Ooo
[04:32] <Devourer> Doesn't work for *nix.
[04:32] <DoubleD> I actually tried playing with Miranda when I was in windows land
[04:32] <Devourer> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_instant_messaging_clients
[04:32] <Devourer> Browse through.
[04:33] <Devourer> Don't forget, Wine exists if you're desperate.
[04:33] <DoubleD> that page is already in my bookmarks
[04:33] <coreymon> my suggestion is, dont put so much emphasis on looks
[04:33] <Devourer> I'm still trying to figure out the Cmake problem...
[04:33] <coreymon> this isnt the new vista of crap
[04:34] <Devourer> Yeah, looks don't bother me. Usability is my main concern.
[04:34] <DoubleD> Call me shallow, but everything should look nice.. We're not in the 50's/60's anymore. Robyn's Egg blue isn't a very popular colour anymore
[04:34] <Devourer> DoubleD, lolol...
[04:34] <Devourer> DoubleD, well, it takes a lot of time to create a decent UI.
[04:35] <DoubleD> KMess is promising.. It's clean, simple, and few visual modifications to stem some creativity
[04:35] <Devourer> DoubleD, what errors are you getting?
[04:36] <Devourer> DoubleD, and why compile? Why not just get a binary?
[04:36] <DoubleD> I've got a post on kmess forum if you want to look. I kind of lost interest at the end of the post but here's the link: http://kmess.org/board/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=3461
[04:37] <DoubleD> I was trying to give the SVN a shot.. I've got the binary installed already but I wanted to see what the new features were
[04:37] <Devourer> DoubleD, did you 'For example, make sure you have the KDE 4 devel packages installed.'
[04:38] <DoubleD> ya everything is installed
[04:39] <DoubleD> if you look in the parent folder of that forum one of the first posts is a how-to for it.. I followed that guide only to be told about cmakes peculiarities w/ kde4
[04:39] <Devourer> Looks like a lot of work. I'm too lazy.
[04:40] <Devourer> I spent two weeks trying to compile KDE4 and I still didn't accomplish that.
[04:40] <Devourer> Something is up with cmake.
[04:40] <DoubleD> sounds like my last attempt with gentoo.. that was when kde4 was only an idea though
[04:40] <Devourer> SConscript. :)
[04:41] <DoubleD> ?? I'm lost.. What's SConscript?
[04:41] <Devourer> It's like cmake, another build tool.
[04:41] <Devourer> But, instead of using... weird configuration files, the script files are all Python.
[04:41] <Devourer> So, it's pure Python I think.
[04:41] <DoubleD> ah see, I'm on the bottom of the curve for all this
[04:41] <Devourer> Google seems to take an extreme liking to Python.
[04:42] <DoubleD> how so?
[04:42] <Devourer> They use SConscript to build Chrome.
[04:42] <DoubleD> have you used chrome?
[04:42] <Devourer> And they just use Python everywhere.
[04:42] <courtjesterg> !firefox
[04:42] <Devourer> Yeah, Chrome is nice.
[04:42] <Devourer> Firefox doesn't look too hot in KDE4.
[04:42] <DoubleD> really? I couldn't get used to the complete minimalist attitude of it
[04:43] <Devourer> Why use more when you can do they same amount of work with less? :)
[04:43] <DoubleD> Devourer: ya.. I had to mess with the GTK themes and a new skin to make it look half decent..
[04:43] <Devourer> Probably another reason why Google loves Python.
[04:43] <DoubleD> I guess I'm stuck on having menu's and hierarchical bookmarks to no end.
[04:43] <Devourer> Minimal language.
[04:44] <DoubleD> hmm no wonder mister-tea was giving kopete a sales pitch
[04:44] <Devourer> DoubleD, why have bookmarks when you can search? Lol.
[04:44] <Devourer> DoubleD, yeah, I noticed that too.
[04:45] <Devourer> I mean, I've used it. It's alright.
[04:45] <Devourer> Some thing bothered me a little bit.
[04:45] <Devourer> things*
[04:45] <DoubleD> I tried. I didn't really give it much slack. I immediately was stumped with the interface though
[04:45] <Devourer> Yeah, the interface...
[04:46] <Devourer> I want recordmydesktop to work. :'(
[04:46] <Devourer> I just have a few questions.
[04:46] <DoubleD> I've never even heard of it.
[04:46] <Devourer> It's quite an amazing screencasting software.
[04:47] <DoubleD> ya I'm in their documentation now
[04:47] <Devourer> Why?
[04:48] <DoubleD> just to see what it is.. I've never heard of it before
[04:48] <Devourer> Oh, I thought you meant your name was in there... lol.
[04:48] <DoubleD> oh lol.. no sorry
[04:48] <Devourer> It's nice, except... If you move the mouse too fast it'll flicker...
[04:49] <Devourer> Not like Camtasia or Camstudio... which I think doesn't make it disappear...
[04:49] <DoubleD> does it have a default fps it records at?
[04:49] <Devourer> It's not a major problem.
[04:49] <Devourer> I don't know the default FPS but, if I bump it up to 50 FPS or 100 FPS it starts to look nice in the videos.
[04:50] <Devourer> But, when I was doin' 100 FPS before, my CPU was goin' bananaz. I could hear the fan buzzing as hard as it could.
[04:50] <DoubleD> haha
[04:50] <Devourer> But, now it doesn't do that. Or at least I haven't noticed.
[04:50] <Devourer> Or... it did that when I was viewing the video with VLC.
[04:51] <DoubleD> hmm, just out curiosity what are you recording?
[04:51] <Devourer> But... I saw a guy use recordmydesktop and he has little purple swirly things around his mouse to make it more noticeable and I want to know how to do that, and also... he could get it to zoom in. I need the zoom for Youtube.
[04:52] <DoubleD> Sounds like features of Compiz Fusion to be honest
[04:52] <Devourer> I'll probably make tutorials that I can't find on Youtube.
[04:52] <Devourer> DoubleD, really? ooo.... Do you think it does the zoom thing though?
[04:52] <DoubleD> ya I'm positive
[04:52] <Devourer> DoubleD, that would explain the purple thing then.
[04:53] <DoubleD> just a sec I'll see if I can find the plugin page for it
[04:53] <Devourer> I remember being able to zoom with... but that was in Gnome.
[04:54] <Devourer> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZDI0rDzJUc
[04:54] <Devourer> Yeah, it's that zoom.
[04:54] <Devourer> Does Compiz work with KDE? :o
[04:54] <DoubleD> http://wiki.compiz-fusion.org/Plugins/Showmouse
[04:55] <DoubleD> you can install it with apt (thats how I installed it anyway..)
[04:56] <Devourer> DoubleD, how can I enable it? And does it have the zoom thing also? :o
[04:56] <Devourer> DoubleD, I'll probably also record a virtual box'd Win XP as well. I tried recording Tremulous with recordmydesktop but it was kind of laggy... Maybe if I put in this new video card I have that'll fix that.
[04:57] <DoubleD> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion
[04:57] <DoubleD> whats tremulous?
[04:57] <DoubleD> VirtualBox is nice software but if you're using it with the window-less feature there's a workaround you need to get it to work with Compiz running
[04:58] <Devourer> DoubleD, FOSS game based on ioquake engine, which is derived from the Quake III Arena engine.
[04:58] <Devourer> DoubleD, windowless is weeeird. It's not like what I expect.
[04:59] <DoubleD> I could see it being handy if you were used to the taskbar and everything being at the top. Then you could have the start bar at the bottom but I can't stand it being cluttered.. I usually only run cad or pokerstars from virtual box so I don't mind leaving it in a window
[05:00] <DoubleD> atleast with the guest additions installed you don't have to release the mouse everytime you click in the O/S window
[05:00] <Devourer> Pokerstars? O.o
[05:00] <Devourer> Yes. Guest additions is nice.
[05:00] <DoubleD> I love poker..
[05:00] <DoubleD> well.. I guess gambling and poker
[05:01] <Devourer> Haha.
[05:01] <Devourer> I might get into card games... if there is competition.
[05:02] <Devourer> I might enjoy the strategy.
[05:02] <DoubleD> when you can win money based on your ability of playing it's always enticing
[05:02] <DoubleD> unfortunately I'm a professional loser
[05:02] <Devourer> Lol.
[05:03] <Devourer> I'm not addicted to money yet.
[05:03] <DoubleD> I didn't even know that was possible. How old are you?
[05:03] <DoubleD> sorry. not to be rude by any means
[05:04] <DoubleD> actually I suppos that is a personal question. You don't need to answer.
[05:06] <Devourer> DoubleD, Compiz destroyed all of my desktops. :(
[05:06] <DoubleD> ya.. you can fix it
[05:06] <Devourer> Now I have a billions apps on one desktop.
[05:06] <DoubleD> run 'ccsm'
[05:06] <Devourer> I'm 19.
[05:07] <Devourer> I was busy understanding Compiz.
[05:07] <DoubleD> alright. I don't feel so bad. I'm 24. I build houses
[05:07] <Devourer> I do nothing. :|
[05:07] <DoubleD> once in ccsm go to general settings, 'horizontal virtual size' = 4
[05:07] <DoubleD> ah, get a job ya bum!
[05:08] <DoubleD> I'm in trade school until the middle of december so I have plenty spare time right now to mess with linux. Otherwise I'd be stuck in windows land
[05:09] <DoubleD> unfortunately my lack of experience in linux means you either have to restart your session or run 'compiz --replace' after changing that setting
[05:11] <Devourer> Hmmm...
[05:11] <DoubleD> ya it's kind of irritating when it doesn't work right awaay
[05:11] <Devourer> True. :)
[05:12] <DoubleD> I spent two days trying to get my desktops back
[05:12] <Devourer> I wonder if Compiz ran smoother than KWin.
[05:12] <Devourer> Regular Ubuntu ran pretty nicely.
[05:12] <DoubleD> I could be wrong but I think compiz works on top of kwin
[05:12] <Devourer> Maybe.
[05:15] <DoubleD> i should really hit the sack though. Ihave to get up in a few hours for school.. I imagine I'll be idling here tomorrow night if I decide to go back to 8.04.. I'm downloading the iso tonight just in case
[05:15] <Devourer> omg motion blurrr
[05:15] <Devourer> Almost froze me. :o
[05:16] <DoubleD> what do you have for a vid card?
[05:16] <Devourer> Some integrated thing.
[05:16] <Devourer> I have a ghetto Radeon with 128 MB onboard RAM but I don't know how much that'll help.
[05:16] <Devourer> I should install it sometime.
[05:18] <DoubleD> it would be a lot better than any onboard POS.. anyway I'm out of here. I'm not sure where you are but it's 12:17am here.. I have to get up at 5:30am.. ;(
[05:18] <Devourer> I'm an hour behind.
[05:18] <Devourer> And that blows for you.
[05:18] <DoubleD> oh well.. nothing a couple red bulls in the morning won't fix
[05:19] <Devourer> Lol, I have Vyvanse to do that for me.
[05:19] <DoubleD> I've never even heard of it
[05:19] <Devourer> Now you have.
[05:19] <DoubleD> lmao.. ADHD meds.
[05:19] <Devourer> ;)
[05:19] <DoubleD> isn't that supposed to calm you down though
[05:20] <Devourer> More like help focus.
[05:20] <Devourer> Helps you focus by waking you up. O_O
[05:20] <Devourer> 8|
[05:20] <DoubleD> ha.. well take it easy. Goodluck with compiz.. I had to rename .kde once because something messed up my config.. might'be been compiz so keep that in mind
[05:21] <DoubleD> later
[05:22] <Devourer> Laterz.
[05:23] <Devourer> Omg... I'm zoomed in all the way in compiz... and I can't make it zoom out. :|
[05:53] <Devourer> I accidentally set my resolution too high, how can I bring it down in the settings?
[06:25] <binMonkey> i'm not very good with networking.  my firestarter lists a blocked connection form 192.168.0.1.  that's my router isn't it?  why is that being blocked?
[06:42] <GGoby> Where can I find the GUI interface for setting up a NFS server?
[06:44] <GGoby> !NFS
[07:19] <Cannoli> how can i install a program that is a .tgz format?
[07:20] <pyrosanltd> hello ?
[07:21] <genii> Cannoli: Do you know that Kubuntu has many programs available to be installed from the package manager, and did you look there already for the specific program you are trying to install, instead of going the arduaous way first tie out?
[07:21] <genii> pyrosanltd: Yes, we're alive. Somewhat :)
[07:21] <pyrosanltd> chuckles awesome
[07:22] <pyrosanltd> well I have an interesting issue with my workstation running Ibex
[07:23] <genii> !ask
[07:23] <pyrosanltd> I am dealing with completely random hangs on my system, I would like to know what I need to do to trouble shoot it aside from the usual memtest
[07:24] <tictric> moin, kpilot has disappeared in intrepid and I accidentially purged it when I was cleaning up my installation after the upgrade
[07:24] <Cannoli> well i got a .tgz file and i cant figure out how to install it.
[07:24] <tictric> is there a recommended repository for it?
[07:25] <genii> Cannoli: What program or so is it supposed to be? You might be able to just use Add/Remove instead of messing with .tar .tgz etc
[07:25] <Cannoli> well i kind of want to do it through commands and stuff so i can try the commands on a different distro
[07:26] <pyrosanltd> to uncompress a *.tgz file
[07:26] <genii> pyrosanltd: Did you check some logs. like /var/log/messages   and also the rsult of command: dmesg  ?
[07:26] <pyrosanltd> yes and Nothing un-usual is there
[07:26] <pyrosanltd> the system seems to behave as if nothing has happened
[07:27] <genii> Cannoli: Is it supposed to be abinary in there or source code?
[07:27] <Cannoli> binary
[07:27] <genii> Cannoli:    tar -xvzf filename.tgz
[07:27] <Cannoli> ok, then make?
[07:28] <genii> Cannoli: binary means no make
[07:28] <Cannoli> oh ok
[07:28] <genii> Cannoli: source means ./configure,make, make install     etc
[07:29] <Cannoli> ok so i wanna do the source too. so i ahve the source now. how would i do that
[07:31] <genii> pyrosanltd: I'm too tired right now to think much about where to start on the diagnosing for unspecific issue... maybe ask nicely in #ubuntu-devel for debugging tips or switches to use on running
[07:31] <genii> !compile
[07:31] <Cannoli> ah ty
[07:32] <genii> Cannoli: Try to get debian or ubuntu sources, or you'll get a lot of dependency and path mismatches
[07:32] <pyrosanltd> Thank you genii take care
[07:33] <genii> pyrosanltd: You too :)
[08:14] <ThomasD> Hi, how can I see what groups a user belings to? commandline ;-)
[08:15] <stdin> ThomasD: type "groups" :)
[08:18] <ThomasD> stdin: thanx
[08:20] <tboxmy> why i cant drag dolphin files into the gallery2 applet?
[08:50] <noaXess> hi all
[08:51] <noaXess> does anybody of you work with racoon/IPSEC?
[09:10] <Ayabara> can I make kmail only show mails from my inbox as unread in the tray icon?
[09:19] <g33k_gir1> I can't access my usb/removable devices anymore. I get the following error: A security policy place in prevents this sender from sending this message to this recipient, see message bus
[09:19] <g33k_gir1> configuration file (rejected message had interface "org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.Volume" member "Mount" error name "(unset)"
[09:19] <g33k_gir1> destination "org.freedesktop.Hal")
[09:24] <g33k_gir1> anyone?
[09:37] <tboxmy> what did u d b4 this?
[09:42] <IcyPolecat_> .part
[09:59] <highvoltage> Hi Kubuntuers (sorry if that's the wrong term)
[10:00] <highvoltage> I'm back to trying out KDE after years of using Gnome
[10:00] <highvoltage> how do I change the colour of the panels? I couldn't find a setting for that in the settings manager
[10:00] <highvoltage> I'm using KDE4 on Intrepid.
[10:06] <zhuzi> any Chinese here ?
[10:06] <PriceChild> !cn
[10:08] <glade88> highvoltage: right click on desktop->Desktop settings->desktop theme
[10:09] <glade88> does anyone use powerdevil? how to get a systray icon for powerdevil?
[10:09] <highvoltage> glade88: thank you, I was looking for it under appearance and colours under system setting
[10:09] <highvoltage> *settings
[10:10] <glade88> highvoltage: np
[10:13] <zhuzi> no one in #kubuntu-cn ...
[10:14] <glade88> zhuzi: #ubuntu-cn
[10:14] <DaHopi> hello :)
[10:15] <zhuzi> thanks
[10:16] <DaHopi> What have i to do, if i want to use all of my 4GB RAM on a i386 Ubuntu with Intel Core2 Duo? i had already compiled a kernel with Core2 processor family and 64G feature.. but it doesnt work.. still have 3,3G... :(
[10:26] <highvoltage> Kubuntu 8.10 is awesome.
[10:39] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[10:51] <DaHopi> hmm no help in sight.. :) is there a irc channel, where i can maybe get more help?
[10:53] <ActionParsnip> DaHopi: wassup?
[10:55] <DaHopi> ActionParsnip: What have i to do, if i want to use all of my 4GB RAM on a i386 Ubuntu with Intel Core2 Duo? i had already compiled a kernel with Core2 processor family and 64G feature.. but it doesnt work.. still have 3,3G... :(
[10:55] <DaHopi> 64 Bit Ubuntu wont run on my Core2
[10:56] <ActionParsnip> DaHopi: course it will
[10:56] <ActionParsnip> let me websearch
[10:56] <DaHopi> k.. thanx..
[10:56] <ActionParsnip> is it a 64bit core2 chip?
[11:00] <DaHopi> mmh i dont think so... this is my lshw output:
[11:00] <DaHopi>           product: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz
[11:00] <DaHopi>           vendor: Intel Corp.
[11:00] <DaHopi>           physical id: 1
[11:00] <DaHopi>           bus info: cpu@0
[11:00] <DaHopi>           version: 15.4.3
[11:00] <DaHopi>           serial: 0000-0F43-0000-0000-0000-0000
[11:00] <DaHopi>           size: 18EHz
[11:00] <DaHopi>           width: 64 bits
[11:00] <berkes> I've been running, tweaking and upgrading my kubuntu for too long now :)
[11:00] <ActionParsnip> its a 64bit chip
[11:00] <ActionParsnip> (try not to flood)
[11:00] <ActionParsnip> use pastebin
[11:01] <ActionParsnip> DaHopi: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=5617782
[11:01] <berkes> what is the default search-thing in kubunut? beagle? kat?
[11:01] <ActionParsnip> DaHopi: your system can run a 64bit OS which will make life easier
[11:01] <DaHopi> ActionParsnip: if i boot ubuntu 8.10 it stops at "squashfs..." message after kernel startup..
[11:01] <ActionParsnip> hmm
[11:02] <ActionParsnip> DaHopi: did you md5 check the iso you downloaded as well as the cd after it was burned?
[11:02] <DaHopi> ActionParship: no i didn't .. maybe i should.. :)
[11:03] <ActionParsnip> DaHopi: tcp is good but checking 100% consistancy is VITAL to a good install
[11:03] <DaHopi> ActionParsnip: thanx for ur link, i will check my cd and try again
[11:03] <ActionParsnip> DaHopi: otherwise you will be installing corrupted data
[11:03] <ActionParsnip> !md5 | DaHopi
[11:04] <DaHopi> ActionParsnip: ok.. i'll do it now.. thanx..
[11:07]  * ActionParsnip calls bad disk
[11:18] <berkes> any good reasons why i should (not) choose kerry+beagle over strigi?
[11:19] <DaHopi> ActionParsnip: OK. i checked the iso and the burned cd, its always the same as on http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.10/MD5SUMS
[11:19] <ActionParsnip> DaHopi: and did you check the cd for defects once you iniitially booted the cd?
[11:19] <ActionParsnip> and have you tested your ram?
[11:20] <DaHopi> ActionParsnip: i tested my ram.. but not cd on boot.. mk..
[11:20] <DaHopi> ok.. i will try this, too..
[11:21] <DaHopi> ActionParsnip: im going to reboot an do this cd test too.. thanx..
[11:27] <amerigo> !openoffice
[11:36] <waylandbill> I've been trying to get my dual-boot windows / linux out of the habit of timewarping. Windows thinks the clock is localtime, Linux thinks something else. When I got to windows from linux, the clock is off by my timezone's different from UTC. How do I fix this? Set /etc/default/rcS:UTC=no maybe?
[11:40] <DaHopi> ActionParsnip: cd test on bootup wont run, it wil halt after kernel boot (message: sqashfs)
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> DaHopi: then run the ram test
[11:44] <DaHopi> i had run the ramtest already, but ramtest shows only 3.3.. GB of RAM..!?
[11:47] <DaHopi> ActionParsnip: i had run the ramtest already, but ramtest shows only 3.3.. GB of RAM..!? - and i took a look in my BIOS, it says i have EMT64 Extensions..
[11:48] <ActionParsnip> DaHopi: try disabling that for now, just til you get installed
[11:48] <ActionParsnip> then turn it on later
[11:50] <DaHopi> ActionParship: ok.. i'll give it a try :)
[11:57] <lovre> hi all
[11:58] <lovre> when i start kubuntu, my ntfs partition is not mounted. When i click on it (to mount it), it asks for a password. Cant i make it automount on startup, and without a password?
[12:00] <Dr_willis> add a proper entry to the /etc/fstab file
[12:00] <Dr_willis> lovre,  you can do this in several ways.. one wasy way.. install and run the 'ntfs-config' tool
[12:04] <elc> some1 solved the tearing problem with ati cards?
[12:04] <paz> alguem do brasil?
[12:08] <g33k_gir1> i've just upgraded to KDE4, and now firefox is not working. I click on FF in the menu, and it starts to load, but then just quietly goes away. no error messages or anything. it just disappears
[12:08] <lovre> Dr_willis: thank you
[12:09] <Dr_willis> run it from a Terminal g33k_gir1  and look for error messages
[12:09] <paz> what serv in brazil?
[12:10] <lovre> Dr_willis: when i run ntfs-config, it just shows two checkboxes, enable writing internal drive / enable writing external drive. Thats all, no more configuration options...
[12:10] <Dr_willis> lovre,  what release are you using?
[12:11] <Dr_willis> 8.10 has more 'features' in that tool
[12:11] <ActionParsnip> g33k_gir1: try: killall firefox; mv ~/.mozilla ~/.mozilla_old; firefox &
[12:11] <lovre> Dr_willis: kubuntu 8.10
[12:14] <ActionParsnip> g33k_gir1: that will wipe our firefox settings to defaults whe it is rerun
[12:15] <Dr_willis> lovre,  somthing is odd.. i run ntfs-config and it pops up a dialog showing the ntfs partitons that have no fstab entry.. and let me 'check' them.. then it asks  avout the write internal/external
[12:15] <Dr_willis> it may beyou have fstab entries allready for the things
[12:15] <Dr_willis> I would check both the box's and see if that works out for you
[12:16] <elc> some1 solved the tearing problem with ati cards?
[12:17] <elc> to bad just wanted thave a linux for internet mail icq etc... and as media player...but thats to mutch..
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> elc: whats your point? youve said that twice now
[12:18] <lovre> Dr_willis: i dont see that. is there any other way?
[12:18] <elc> the point is that there are two channels..
[12:18] <ActionParsnip> elc: there are lots of channels
[12:18] <elc> i know...but two channels i am in
[12:18] <ActionParsnip> elc: again, whats your point?
[12:19] <elc> you asked whats the point of saying it twice right?
[12:19] <ActionParsnip> no, why are you saying: elc: to bad just wanted thave a linux for internet mail icq etc... and as media player...but thats to mutch..  ?
[12:20] <elc> the point is that i cant understand why it isnt possible to play a video without tearing...if you ahve a ati cart
[12:21] <g33k_gir1> ok, so Firefox runs just fine from a terminal -- its the KDE menu version thats not working
[12:21] <ActionParsnip> elc: try driver settings or different drivers. get different codecs
[12:21] <Dr_willis> lovre,  manually edit th /etc/fstab file - putting in a proper fstab line
[12:21] <ActionParsnip> elc: try a different player
[12:21] <elc> tried tried it all
[12:21] <Dr_willis> lovre,  ie: my example line....
[12:21] <Dr_willis> # Entry for /dev/sdb1 :
[12:21] <Dr_willis> UUID=0A5E19E75E19CC77 /media/vista ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_US.UTF-8 0 1
[12:21] <ActionParsnip> elc: try renicing the player
[12:21] <ActionParsnip> elc: tried envyng-gtk?
[12:22] <elc> the only output format without rearing was opengl
[12:22] <elc> but there was a frame lack
[12:23] <lovre> Dr_willis: ok thank you
[12:23] <lovre> Dr_willis: i will try something like that
[12:23] <ActionParsnip> elc: did you try renicing the players
[12:24] <ActionParsnip> elc: and have you tried envyng-gtk for drivers
[12:24] <elc> nope
[12:24] <elc> i am since yesterday on linux
[12:24] <ActionParsnip> elc: then go try
[12:24] <ActionParsnip> elc: trying a new OS for 2 days then throwing in the towel is weak
[12:25] <elc> well i just want to have video playback...i
[12:26] <ActionParsnip> elc: well do some research on your card in linux, maybe there are tweaks or a patch you need
[12:26] <g33k_gir1> anyone have any ideas -- firefox works from a terminal but not the KDE menu (KDE 4)
[12:26] <ActionParsnip> g33k_gir1: ok, what command do you launch in terminal?
[12:26] <g33k_gir1> firefox
[12:26] <g33k_gir1> ActionParsnip: ^^
[12:27] <elc> well thx
[12:27] <ActionParsnip> g33k_gir1: ok and if you kmenuedit, what does the shortcut point to?
[12:27] <elc> i think i wait a year or two ^^
[12:27] <sushiX> how to extract .rar files in ubuntu
[12:28] <ActionParsnip> !rar | sushiX
[12:28] <g33k_gir1> ActionParsnip: it goes to firefox %u
[12:29] <g33k_gir1> ActionParsnip: if I change it to just firefox, it still doesn't work
[12:30] <ActionParsnip> g33k_gir1: in terminal type: which firefox
[12:30] <ActionParsnip> g33k_gir1: whats the output?
[12:31] <g33k_gir1> ActionParsnip: /usr/bin/firefox
[12:31] <ActionParsnip> g33k_gir1: make the shortcut point to that file explicitly
[12:32] <sushiX> ok thanks
[12:32] <g33k_gir1> ActionParsnip: still no luck
[12:33] <g33k_gir1> ActionParsnip: do I need to restart X (or even reboot'?)
[12:33] <ActionParsnip> g33k_gir1: after you edit the menu in kmenuedit, are you clicking save?
[12:33] <g33k_gir1> ActionParsnip: yep :)
[12:33] <ActionParsnip> just checking
[12:33] <g33k_gir1> ActionParsnip: no offense :D
[12:34] <ActionParsnip> g33k_gir1: you could always use: sudo apt-get --reinstall install firefox-3.0
[12:34] <ActionParsnip> g33k_gir1: i assume nothing in here
[12:35] <g33k_gir1> ActionParsnip: yes, I too I have learned the value of assuming nothing (I'm doing basic tech support -- my god, its soul destroying)
[12:35] <Dr_willis> 'is the power on?"  ' is the computer on' ? 'Yes sir wheni say the "Right Mouse" button, I mean theone on the RIght Side of the mouse'
[12:36] <g33k_gir1> Dr_willis: yes... literally
[12:36] <ActionParsnip> g33k_gir1: oh i left talking to users far behind :)
[12:36] <g33k_gir1> Dr_willis: I thought those were just jokes until I started having to ask those in real life, myself
[12:36] <ActionParsnip> g33k_gir1: i only have servers emailing me when bad stuff fails
[12:37] <g33k_gir1> ActionParsnip: what I aspire to...
[12:37] <g33k_gir1> ActionParsnip: one day
[12:37] <ActionParsnip> Dr_willis: g33k_gir1: i cant find the any key
[12:38] <g33k_gir1> ActionParsnip: mostly its "how do I burn a CD", or, how do I do XYZ on my new iPhone
[12:38] <g33k_gir1> ActionParsnip: seriously lowlevel tech support required
[12:38] <g33k_gir1> :)
[12:38] <dwidmann> ActionParsnip: then buy one online :P
[12:38] <ActionParsnip> and monday morning password resets as people have been away from their systems more than 20 hours
[12:44] <mschiff> does anybody know where I can configure login/logout notifications (sounds) in intrepid?
[12:45] <DaHopi> ActionParsnip: Hi again., its not possible to deactivate EMT64 extensions.. :(
[12:45] <ActionParsnip> DaHopi: try disabling other fancy things in bios
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> !ntfs-3g > st3p
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> !ntfs3g > st3ph
[12:48] <dwidmann> mschiff: system settings - >notifications ... I think
[12:49] <mschiff> dwidmann: I thought that too, but I isnt there :-(
[12:49] <dwidmann> mschiff: oh but it is
[12:49] <mschiff> there used to be a general "kde" thing or something
[12:49] <dwidmann> in the drop down (which probably has "konsole" selected by default), change it to kde
[12:49] <dwidmann> "KDE system notifications" to be exact
[12:50] <mschiff> dwidmann: I just did not scroll down .... and thought it was gone... oh dear ;))
[12:51] <mschiff> dwidmann: thx
[12:51] <dwidmann> mschiff: yw
[12:52] <BluesKaj> hiyas
[12:53] <dwidmann> hey BluesKaj
[12:53] <BluesKaj> hi dwidmann
[12:56] <BluesKaj> still looking for a way to link the kde4 screensaver to my Pictures folder. A dev oversight maybe ?
[12:58] <dwidmann> BluesKaj: which pictures folder does it link to?
[12:59] <matisse> hi, I installed a windows program using wine. Everything worked fine. The program ran fine, well the setup dialog was still there, but thats not the important thing. The program told me, that I have 7 days time for registering. When closing it told me time had run up and also I didn't find any program file to restart it...
[12:59] <matisse> its about origin
[13:00] <dwidmann> matisse: well, wine keeps its files in ~/.wine/drive_c/ or something like that
[13:00] <matisse> theres nothing :)
[13:00] <matisse> i mean, nothing of wie
[13:00] <matisse> s/wie/origin
[13:02] <matisse> maybe origin delets itself if the time has run up
[13:02] <cham_eleon> isn't it possible to place a panel on another screen? i've a three monitor setup here but only for the one in the middle a panel can be defined?
[13:03] <BluesKaj> dwidmann, it links to downloaded optional web based screensaver or Xscreensaver pictures , but there's no option within the screensaver to link to other than the web based open GL screensavers
[13:04] <dwidmann> cham_eleon: kde4's multi-monitor-ness is rather limited... It's hard to say whether or not it can be done
[13:05] <dwidmann> cham_eleon: (I'm currently taking refuge in kde3 (compiled it yesterday))
[13:05] <cham_eleon> dwidmann: it's not possible?
[13:05] <dwidmann> cham_eleon: I'm not sure ... I think it might be possible  but I can't be too sure.
[13:05] <cham_eleon> dwidmann: I tried everything but doesn't work :(
[13:06] <dwidmann> I know for a fact it doesn't play nice with non-xinerama/non-mergedfb setups.
[13:06] <cham_eleon> dwidmann: thats very bad, no good working possible
[13:06] <cham_eleon> i'm using xinerama for my three display setup
[13:06] <dwidmann> I reckoned as much
[13:08] <tominglis> how do i force grub to boot a particular version of the kernel which works best, but which isn't the latest one?
[13:08] <ekseniks> how do i know if i need the i686 or the i3## ?
[13:09] <tominglis> ekseniks: if you have a 32bit processor, then you would normally use the i386 option
[13:09] <cham_eleon> Another problem i have is that i can't start eclipse "xrandr extension missing" but with my old setup (8.04) the xrandr wasn't present too, there everythign worked
[13:09] <ekseniks> cool ta
[13:09] <dwidmann> ekseniks: you only need the 386 if the 686 one won't work ... is my understanding
[13:10] <dwidmann> cham_eleon: yeah, that's one of the big disadvantages of xinerama you're running into
[13:11] <cham_eleon> dwidmann: but is this a 64bit issue or 8.10 issue?
[13:11] <dwidmann> cham_eleon: three or four very nice to have X extensions (at least) aren't available when you're using it :(
[13:11] <cham_eleon> dwidmann: before i was using 32bit 8.04
[13:11] <ekseniks> i'm running the i386 version of kubuntu so will the i686 still work
[13:11] <dwidmann> cham_eleon: I assume the latter
[13:11] <dwidmann> ekseniks: yes.
[13:11] <ekseniks> okai ta
[13:13] <dwidmann> cham_eleon: I think the other things that won't activate are dri, maybe xdamage ... forget what else
[13:14] <cham_eleon> dwidmann: hmm as i asked, do you think this is a 8.10 issue or 64bit problem?
[13:14] <dwidmann> cham_eleon: probably an 8.10 issue of some sort
[13:15] <dwidmann> cham_eleon: hard to tell what's at fault ... intrepid's new version of Xorg? new version of eclipse? definitely file a bug report on launchpad.net
[13:15] <cham_eleon> dwidmann: could be much ye
[13:15] <DaHopi> ActionParsnip: strange: ubuntu-server-amd64 installation runs without trouble.. but desktop edition hangs still on "squashfs" .. any other suggestions.. or should i install server edition and after than ubuntu-desktop?
[13:16] <dwidmann> cham_eleon: thought it seems those of us with multiple monitors never get anything more than "maybe later" level priority from devs :(
[13:17] <dwidmann> cham_eleon: of course, it could be a kde4 issue too, possibly.
[13:17] <dwidmann> cham_eleon: no easy way to test any of those theories.
[13:18] <dwidmann> cham_eleon: I guess the easiest would be to do an install of hardy, and install kde4 from the ppa.
[13:18]  * BluesKaj wonders what he would do with multiple monitors ...not a gamer or stock trader :P
[13:19] <dwidmann> BluesKaj: ever run into any situation where you need to be looking at 2+ things at once?
[13:19] <cham_eleon> BluesKaj: I'm using three 24" monitors here ;-)
[13:19] <BluesKaj> cham_eleon, for ?
[13:19] <cham_eleon> BluesKaj: on the left my browser, in the middle eclipse and right irrsi and co :)
[13:19] <cham_eleon> BluesKaj: web development
[13:19] <BluesKaj> ok
[13:19] <cham_eleon> BluesKaj: so i can code it in the middle and on the left i can see the result without switching the windows or anything like that :)
[13:20] <BluesKaj> cham_eleon, gotcha
[13:20] <cham_eleon> ;)
[13:20] <dwidmann> I often play video on my right monitor and do normal things simultaneously on this monitor
[13:20] <cham_eleon> dwidmann: yes thats another way to use multiple screens :)
[13:22] <dwidmann> Of course, I can't seem to get good enough video performance out of merged framebuffer(aka twinview) (it flickers), and xinerama video performance is garbage for me (no xv extension) ... so that leaves separate x screens ... and no kde4 support for that ... bleh
[13:23] <nidian> salve a tutti
[13:24] <BluesKaj> !it | nidian
[13:25] <nidian> sorry ^^ well, hi ^^
[13:27] <matt____> I've placed a cd in my drive..Amarok will play it at /dev/scd1, but I can't get anything else to "detect" it. I've tried soundkonverter and cdparaonia. Right now I'm over ssh, so any terminal ideas/solutions/programs?
[13:27] <Dr_willis> matt____,   You may need to explicatly tell those apps to use /dev/sdc1  or make a link from /dev/cdrom to /dev/scd1
[13:28] <matt____> Dr_willis: I've tried telling those apps to use it..and everything else (/media/cdrom, dev/cdrom.
[13:28] <dwidmann> what Dr_willis said ... and abcde and ripit are nice apps for doing that btw.
[13:29] <Dr_willis> does /dev/cdrom exist?
[13:30] <matt____> dwidmann: Tried abcde, trying ripit.
[13:30] <matt____> Dr_willis: yes..along with /dev/cdrom1 and a few cdrw's
[13:30] <Dr_willis> ls -l /dev/cdrom
[13:30] <Dr_willis> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 2008-11-17 09:31 /dev/cdrom -> scd0
[13:31] <Dr_willis> see where they point to.. they may be incorrect
[13:31] <dwidmann> matt____: they won't work either if you don't specify the device though ... abcde -d /dev/scd1 or ripit -d /dev/scd1
[13:31] <matt____> dwidmann: I tried those.
[13:31] <matt____> dwidmann: /dev/cdrom1 leads to scd1
[13:32] <Dr_willis> and /dev/cdrom leads to?
[13:32] <matt____> Dr_willis: scd0
[13:32] <dwidmann> matt____: by default the apps look to /dev/cdrom (not /dev/cdrom1) ... so specifying is totally necessary
[13:32] <matt____> dwidmann: The disk is in scd1
[13:33] <matt____> dwidmann: how would you use cdrip to do mp3 320?
[13:33] <dwidmann> Umm, I'm not familiar with cdrip matt____
[13:34] <matt____> dwidmann: I meant ripit ;)
[13:35] <matisse> hi, did wine change its default config ? I now have a drive_c directly in my home dir (and still one in ~/.wine/)
[13:35] <matt____> dwidmann: dwidmann ripit detected the disk and used cddb...so I should be able to get it to work.
[13:35] <matt____> dwidmann: any quick options for good mp3 rip
[13:35] <dwidmann> ripit -c 0 -b 320
[13:35] <dwidmann> maybe
[13:36] <dwidmann> I'd use VBR instead though, personally
[13:36]  * Dr_willis waits for the ogg/flac/mp3/whatever arguments to begin
[13:36] <Dr_willis> :)
[13:36] <matt____> dwidmann: What about the -h optoin forlame...can I use it?
[13:36] <matt____> Dr_willis: Lets have it!
[13:37] <Dr_willis> i Just listen to last.fm now a days.. :)
[13:38] <dwidmann> matt____: -h? yeah, same as --help
[13:38] <dwidmann> man ripit works too :)
[13:39] <matt____> dwidmann: I tried ripit --help. So....what do i do when it says the genre isn't ID3v2 compatible? I tried selecting a few...and also none..never lets me past it.
[13:40] <dwidmann> matt____: well, you could manually specify the genre, or disregard the fact that it isn't compatible
[13:40] <matt____> dwidmann: but it won't let me disregard.
[13:41] <dwidmann> matt____: ah, yes, seems it forces you to not disregard it if you're doing mp3 encodes (not true of ogg/flac/etc)
[13:41] <matt____> dwidmann: Gotcha. So how can I fix this?
[13:41] <dwidmann> matt____: try setting it to something silly/generic, like "rock" or something, it has to accept that
[13:42] <matt____> dwidmann: I tried. I'm manually putting it in instead of cddb.
[13:43] <dwidmann> matt____: you can only override the genre, by using "-g rock" or something
[13:46] <matt____> dwidmann: I tried everything...I may not be doing something right. You have time to grab a cd and try it yourself to a mp3?
[13:46] <ekseniks> what music player is most similar to WMP11 or just a good one that can sync ipods?
[13:46] <dwidmann> matt____: hmm, sure
[13:46] <nidian> how can i see the channel list?
[13:47] <matt____> dwidmann: When it asks for it...rock is 17. But I tried none, rock, 17, "rock", "17", and a few others.
[13:47] <ekseniks> nidian: what irc client are you using?
[13:47] <nidian> konversation
[13:49] <matt____> dwidmann: ripit -d /dev/scd1 -c 0 -b 320 is what i tried
[13:49] <dwidmann> matt____: wow, that's pretty screwed up, ...
[13:50] <matt____> dwidmann: I know. I searched google and apparently it is some sort of bug.
[13:51] <dwidmann> matt____: I gathered that much
[13:51] <matt____> dwidmann: Show me abcde..I got it to detect this thing. I can't figure out how to make it mp3 320
[13:51] <ekseniks> lol you don't want to ask for a channel list...
[13:52] <dwidmann> matt____: just a moment
[13:57] <dwidmann> matt____: okay, first, do this
[13:57] <dwidmann> matt____: export LAMEENCOPTS="-m s -b 320 --cbr -h"
[13:58] <matt_____> dwidmann: Ok...wrong control+z. What do I do first?
[13:58] <dwidmann> matt____: export LAMEENCOPTS="-m s -b 320 --cbr -h"
[13:58] <lokai> I'm trying to create a simple shell script that goes something like this: directories='bunch/of ~/directories/'     tar -cvf archive.tar $directories               Does anyone see a problem with this?
[13:58] <lokai> it doesn't work.
[13:59] <matt_____> dwidmann: -cbr?
[13:59] <matt_____> oh...gotcha ;)
[13:59] <dwidmann> matt____:then, abcde -d /dev/scd1 -o mp3
[13:59] <dwidmann> matt____:well, it seemed like you wanted a constant bit rate
[13:59] <Dr_willis> lokai,  you may not want to use the ~ shortcut in scripts..
[13:59] <BluesKaj> lokai , shouldn't there be a -  before the tar ?
[14:00] <Dr_willis> lokai,  and watch out for spaces in filenames
[14:00] <BluesKaj> lokai, yes in shell scripts i found that using ~ instead of /home/user doesn't work
[14:00] <lokai> Dr_willis: I got the spaces in the directories with \ . Didn't realize that ~ would mess it up.
[14:01] <matt_____> dwidmann: If this works...this is so much easier than k3b ;)
[14:01] <lokai> thanks guys, I'll try that
[14:01] <matt_____> dwidmann: So what did that do? set the "defaults" for lame?
[14:01] <Dr_willis> lokai,   even with \ ive seen where one command parses out the \ and gets a space.. then the next command it launches  gets confused..   I just have the habbit of NEVER using spaces in file/dir names.. so i dont notice the problem much
[14:02] <dwidmann> matt____: yeah, that just sets the options it sends to lame
[14:02] <lokai> Dr_willis: Yep, I'm seeing that problem now. Funny, that I need to archive one of the only directories on my machine that uses a <space>
[14:02] <lokai> Do you know how I would work around this, besides changing the directory name?
[14:03] <matt_____> dwidmann: Cool.
[14:03] <dwidmann> matt____: I find ripit, abcde, k3b, and soundkonverter all to be pretty easy and flexible
[14:03] <Dr_willis> use single quotes around the filenames with spaces in them.. is one possible way
[14:04] <matt_____> dwidmann: It still says 128 kbps......
[14:04] <dwidmann> hrm
[14:04] <lokai> Dr_willis: Doesn't seem to work
[14:04] <dwidmann> matt____: I'm looking into it
[14:05] <Dr_willis> lokai,  when in dobut break the script down into parts.. and use echo commands to see what its seeing at every place.. you may need to some how tack on extra quotes
[14:05] <lokai> Yeah, I'll work on it. Thanks again.
[14:05] <dwidmann> matt____: oops ... it's LAMEOPTS, not LAMEENCOPTS ... sorry
[14:06] <Dr_willis> its also likely a google for tar docs/guides/tips may show you exactly how to do it. :)
[14:08] <matt_____> dwidmann: So that makes it???????
[14:09] <matt_____> LAMEOPTS="-m s -b 320 --cbr -h"
[14:09] <matt_____> dwidmann: ^
[14:10] <dwidmann> matt____yeah
[14:11] <matt_____> dwidmann: It's sorta odd. It "freezes" at grabbing entire cd.......almost like perhaps something at home isn't working.
[14:12] <dwidmann> matt____: I'm trying it right now just to be sure, it has been sooooo long since I've used it
[14:12] <dwidmann> and my old conf files for ripit and abcde disappeared at some point or other :(
[14:12] <matt_____> dwidmann: Well...I mean i've did this part before...but it's almost like the cddb server is slow.
[14:12] <dwidmann> matt____: It probably is
[14:12] <matt_____> dwidmann: yeah...it's just slow..it finally moved status
[14:13] <dwidmann> ah, now I get it, I misread something, I shouldn't be exporting that, it goes in the conf file :\
[14:14] <dwidmann> curse them for putting those in all caps
[14:17] <dwidmann> matt____: create a new file in your home directory, call it ".abcde.conf", put one line in it, LAMEOPTS="-m s -b 320 --cbr -h"
[14:17] <matt_____> dwidmann: Config file...I found one of those...tried it..didn't work.
[14:18] <matt_____> dwidmann: s?
[14:18] <dwidmann> matt____mode s = mode stereo = not joint stereo
[14:18] <Machtin> hey guys.. i got some files (pictures, actually) which have german 'umlaute'.. like äüö and so.. since quite some time - i guess it was some update - i can't open them anymore.. it just says the files are not there.. they are shown in dolphin, but when i try to open/move/copy them.. i just get an error "no such file"
[14:18] <matt_____> dwidmann: that's something I overlooked.
[14:18] <Machtin> how to recover these files?
[14:20] <matt_____> dwidmann: I am at school...ssh'd into my home server, from there ssh'd into my desktop. What would be the easier way to get the mp3 files here?
[14:21] <matt_____> dwidmann: I was thinking of setting up nfs on my desktop and server, copying the files to my server, and then using sftp (ftp over shh) to get the files to here.
[14:21] <P_> trying to run the live cd 8.10 without success, by removing quiet splash i got the following messages "ata4.00 unsupported CDB len" "ata4.00 disabled" then it goes into a endless loop with "EXT3-fs : mounted filesystem with ordered data mode" messages displayed every 2 seconds
[14:21] <dwidmann> matt____: well, if you could ssh in, then you should be able to get the files with scp
[14:21] <P_> I tried "irqpoll" "acpi=off" and "pci=nomsi" options, and I even flashed my bios, still no success i'm stuck, probably something related to my SATA drives, this is a lappy, any idea ?
[14:21] <matt_____> dwidmann: I know that...but over two "shh's"? I don't know how I'd do that. i'm on my desktop THROUGH my server....
[14:22] <dwidmann> matt____: scp them to your server first?
[14:22] <matt_____> dwidmann: Good point. Blatently obvious. How can I scp directories..never figured that one out.
[14:22] <dwidmann> matt____: scp -r
[14:23] <matt_____> dwidmann: of course
[14:24] <dwidmann> matt____: according to this test, my most recent, setting the LAMEOPTS in the user conf file (.abcde.conf) produces the desired results
[14:25] <matt_____> dwidmann: It's sorta weird...it's encoding at 320...but it always seems to try and "resume" what you were doing before. LIke...it started at track 7. Now it's on 8. I tried deleting abc* and the directory of the cd...but I don't know..
[14:25] <dwidmann> matt____: yeah, you need to kill abcde, then delete those dirs and you should be good to go
[14:25] <matt_____> dwidmann: I mean that's what I did. unless you mean kill abcde after control z
[14:26] <matt_____> dwidmann: something like killall abcde i mean
[14:26] <dwidmann> matt____: don't need to be that drastic, ctrl+c will suffice
[14:28] <dwidmann> Looks like 320kbs CBR Lame MP3's are almost exactly 50% larger than the equivalent ogg vorbis q7 rips
[14:29] <matt_____> n
[14:33] <sigma> where can i find kubuntu case badge images?
[14:33] <sigma> and does anyone know how to use video in on nvidia cards (7600gt) to record tv under linux?
[14:39] <matt__> dwidmann: I know nothing of scp. Hurry. matt@192.168.100 directory Nickelback-Dark_Horse/
[14:39] <matt__> dwidmann: How can I do that?
[14:41] <Dr_willis> Nvidia video cards have a video IN ?
[14:42] <dwidmann> Dr_willis: not as far as I know
[14:43] <dwidmann> Dr_willis: all of mine have three video outs though (think the one downstairs has a vga out, dvi out, and a s/video out. The ones up here have 2 dvi outs, and an s/video out)
[14:47] <Dr_willis> Yea..ive seen too many people see the svideo port.. and think its an IN..
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[15:02] <anubis_> Anyone have any sujestions as what to use for c++ Programming ? thx ..
[15:07] <nogagplz> hey guys, is it possible at all to make the Adept package manager look how it did in 7.10/8.04 from KDE3.5.x, or even still install it? This new one has an annoying layout :S
[15:10] <BluesKaj> nogagplz, right click on the icon , choose properties , then click the icon on the properties page and you'll then have optional icons under different categories to choose from
[15:11] <BluesKaj> nogagplz, chhoose properties on 8.04  ..on 8.10 choose icon settings
[15:12] <nogagplz> nono, not the icons, but the way the actual program looks. The old view with every package listed is better than how it is currently set out
[15:13] <BluesKaj> oh yeah , I agree nogagplz , dunno what can be done about t:(hat
[15:13] <nogagplz> >>
[15:13] <jrimbaud> like synaptic anyway ?
[15:13] <BluesKaj> I prefer the kde3 desktop
[15:14] <Dr_willis> I always install synaptic
[15:14] <jrimbaud> so do I
[15:15] <BluesKaj> there is a very convoluted way to switch from kde4 to kde3 but one has to install gnome then kde3 then uninstall gnome and do some other stuff that i can't be bothered to fool with.
[15:17] <floown> hello
[15:17] <floown> on Kmail (Intrepid Ibex) I can create a smtp account to send mail. Is it a bug?
[15:17] <floown> * I can not create
[15:21] <handcrafted> Errors were encountered while processing:
[15:21] <handcrafted>  xserver-xorg-input-vmmouse
[15:21] <handcrafted> What can I o to fix that
[15:21] <handcrafted> ?
[15:25] <BluesKaj> floown, pls be more specific ..are you clicking on the accounts/sending tab to setup smtp ?
[15:25] <floown> BluesKaj: yes I do
[15:25] <floown> BluesKaj: in fact the entry is not validated
[15:25] <BluesKaj> so what's the srror floown ?
[15:25] <floown> when I click ok
[15:25] <BluesKaj> error
[15:26] <floown> no error... :|
[15:26] <floown> just no entry in the list when I attempt to create a smtp account
[15:26] <BluesKaj> try clicking on apply first
[15:26] <floown> ok I test
[15:27] <floown> BluesKaj: there is no apply button
[15:27] <floown> just "ok" and something with sendmail
[15:28] <floown> KDE 4.1.3
[15:29] <snarkster> question: anymore development on firefox-qt or did it die?
[15:29] <simon__> i lost my panel bar in the bottom off my screen. How to get it back
[15:30] <snarkster> kde4 or 3?
[15:30] <simon__> hm...
[15:30] <snarkster> or is that a dumb question now?
[15:30] <simon__> i don't now
[15:30] <floown> BluesKaj: should I delete a file? I have upgrade from hardy
[15:31] <simon__> i lost my panel bar in the bottom off my screen. How to get it back
[15:31] <BluesKaj> ok, then what smtp setup are you using floown ..smtp1.ISP.domain  ?
[15:31] <snarkster> simon__: you dont know if you using kde3 or kde4?
[15:31] <floown> BluesKaj: smtp.gmail.com
[15:31] <simon__> no i dont now
[15:31] <snarkster> ah
[15:31] <simon__> but i have upgrade it
[15:32] <Saka_> hi all
[15:32] <snarkster> well that does kinda lead the helper to guide the helppe
[15:32] <snarkster> um helpee
[15:32] <simon__> but how to get it back
[15:32] <Saka_> i've recently updated my kubuntu 8.04 to 8.10
[15:32] <snarkster> Saka_: Nice how do you like it
[15:32] <BluesKaj> floown, you have to set gmail up in gmail itself not Kmail ...gmail will send from it's webmail site not from Kmail AFAIK ....
[15:32] <simon__> i lost my panel bar in the bottom off my screen. How to get it back
[15:33] <simon__> i lost my panel bar in the bottom off my screen. How to get it back
[15:33] <Dr_willis> Try logging out/back in simon__ ?
[15:33] <Saka_> Fine snarkster thank you !
[15:33] <simon__> no it dont work i Removed it
[15:33] <BluesKaj> simon__, look at the top of your screen , you'll see the little plasma icon , click on it
[15:33] <simon__> ok
[15:33] <Saka_> i just have an issue with the pidgin application
[15:33] <Dr_willis> The 'cashew' :)
[15:34] <simon__> add widgets
[15:34] <snarkster> simon__: so right click add widget add panel
[15:34] <floown> BluesKaj: I have activated the pop3 checkbox
[15:34] <Saka_> i just installed it on my computer, but it keep bugging
[15:34] <jonasbet> hi
[15:34] <jonasbet> does anyonw know what extension is bin?
[15:34] <Saka_> when i'm chating sometimes it just shutdown even if i'm not working with it !!
[15:34] <snarkster> hmm my pidgin has issues connecting with yahoo all the time
[15:34] <BluesKaj> floown, pop3 is for receiving mail .
[15:34] <jonasbet> it is supposed to be a video extension
[15:35] <floown> [16:32] <BluesKaj> floown, you have to set gmail up in gmail itself not Kmail ...gmail will send from it's webmail site not from Kmail AFAIK .... <---------- I used Kmail with Gmail in KDE 3.5.10... and his smtp
[15:35] <Dr_willis> jonasbet,   totally meaningless extenson.. used by too many companies/places to have any real meaning
[15:35] <Dr_willis> jonasbet,  use 'file whatever.bin' to see what file thinks it is
[15:35] <Saka_> does it have a link with the new upgrade KDE with pidgin ?
[15:35] <simon__> ok but how to move my panel bar down to the bottom of the screen
[15:35] <cameron> hi! I updated firefox today, and when I tried to run it, it just loads for a bit and doesn't run
[15:35] <cameron> any help please?
[15:35] <jonasbet> sohh
[15:35] <jonasbet> i download a series
[15:35] <jonasbet> how can i wacht it?
[15:36] <floown> BluesKaj: in fact I can not create any stmp account in Kmail, with my personnal domain too
[15:36] <Dr_willis> jonasbet,  totally depedns on the exact file format of the download..
[15:36] <BluesKaj> floown, well sorry i don't know how to help you with that
[15:36] <snarkster> ah smoke break time
[15:36] <snarkster> later
[15:36] <Dr_willis> jonasbet,  try loading it in mplayer or vlc or other media players
[15:36] <jonasbet> it is *.bin
[15:36] <Dr_willis> jonasbet,  and as i said  .bin means NOTHING....
[15:36] <jonasbet> let me try
[15:36] <Dr_willis> it may as well say .somerandomfileextension
[15:36] <jonasbet> the file is 700mb
[15:37] <jonasbet> jaja
[15:37] <jonasbet> i see
[15:37] <Dr_willis> 'file whatever.bin' and see what file says it is.. or tryloading it in a player...
[15:37] <floown> BluesKaj: ok, anyway thx ;)
[15:37] <BluesKaj> floown, it's smtp not stmp SMTP = Simple Mail Transfer Protocol
[15:37] <rishabh> hi all
[15:38] <floown> I test... :)
[15:39] <jonasbet> it works in a player
[15:39] <jonasbet> i do not undertand
[15:39] <jonasbet> beacuse it opens two windowns
[15:39] <jonasbet> should i change extension?
[15:39] <Dr_willis> jonasbet,  whats not to understand?  extensions mean NOTHING under linux basically..
[15:39] <Dr_willis>  no idea what you mean by 2 windows..
[15:39] <Dr_willis> change it to .avi if you really wan tto.
[15:39] <floown> the same, smtp or stmp, I can't validate the smtp account
[15:40] <jonasbet> why the file have an extension than mean nothing
[15:40] <cameron> I'm not trying to be a jerk, but does anyone have any advice? or some website i could go to for help for my firefox issue?
[15:40] <jonasbet> but them it works when i forced it
[15:40] <jonasbet> to do in a player as u did
[15:40] <Dr_willis> jonasbet,  file extensions are just used as a 'hint' to the file manager as to what to load the file into.. what default program to use.. .bin is so widely used for so many different things it means nothing basically
[15:40] <RurouniJones> cameron: What is the problem?
[15:41] <Dr_willis> jonasbet,  you could move a whatever.avi file to 'stuff.exe' and the media player would still play it.. It looks at the DATA in the file.. not its name
[15:41] <cameron> rurounijones I just click on it to run it, and then it loads a bit and doesn't enter firefox 3
[15:41] <Dr_willis> jonasbet,  the file maanger however would get confused.
[15:41] <jonasbet> ohh thanks
[15:42] <BluesKaj> floown, check this out , it says to change your port to 950 on pop.gmail.com .. http://www.debianadmin.com/configure-gmail-in-evolution-thunderbird-or-kmail.html
[15:42] <jonasbet> for the xplanation
[15:42] <RurouniJones> cameron: What happens if yu run it form the command line
[15:42] <Dr_willis>  the 'file' command i gave earlye rmay tell you want kind of video file/codec it is.
[15:42] <cameron> okay
[15:42] <cameron> that would be 'firefox &u' right?
[15:44] <BluesKaj> floown, sry , it actaully says to change the outbound port to 465 ....anyway it's all there.
[15:45] <floown> BluesKaj: the same, I can't validate the account
[15:46] <MilitantPotato> firefox %u
[15:46] <cameron> hmmm nothing happens
[15:46] <BluesKaj> floown, have done the changes in gmail as well ?
[15:46] <MilitantPotato> cameron: /usr/bin/firefox
[15:46] <floown> BluesKaj: in fact the upgrade has brocken some conf files, it worked with KDE 3.5.x, in hardy
[15:47] <floown> yes BluesKaj
[15:47] <yago> does anyone know any program to convet Avi to Ipod video format?
[15:47] <MilitantPotato> cameron: from inside Konsole
[15:47] <RurouniJones> cameron: Dont even need the u
[15:47] <RurouniJones> just firefox
[15:47] <mini-man> I can't get Kmail to work with Gmail, neither pop nor imap works, keep getting 'protocol died unexpectedly'... I do have cyrus-sasl
[15:48] <Dr_willis> yago,  ffmpeg, or mencoder can do that..  theres also proberly some front ends..
[15:48] <cameron> one sec thanks :)
[15:48] <BluesKaj> looks like another kde4 bug with Kmail and gmail
[15:48] <cameron> I'm afraid it does nothing
[15:49] <mini-man> BluesKaj: so no fix? :(
[15:49] <MilitantPotato> cameron: make sure firefox-2 is uninstalled, try re-installing firefox afterward?
[15:50] <cameron> okay I'll do that one sec
[15:51] <MilitantPotato> cameron: also, backup ~/.mozilla/firefox and then remove that directory?
[15:51] <BluesKaj> some ppl have kmail probs , but I haven't encountered any personally , but I don't try to send from gmail using the the gmail smtp setup , I just use my ISP provided smtp setup
[15:51] <MilitantPotato> cameron: if the first suggestion doesn't work, I mean.   Deleting that will remove all your bookmarks and plugins, so be sure to back it up, so you can recover your bookmarks.
[15:52] <cameron> okay thanks for the advice
[15:52] <cameron> maybe this will help the diagnosis
[15:52] <cameron> this only happened after I updated it today
[15:52] <BluesKaj> I do however have my gmail auto -sent to my ISP email acct
[15:55] <MilitantPotato> Updated it via Adept or manually?
[15:58] <floown> BluesKaj: I have delete all files in .kde/share/config/*mail* in now I can validate the smtp account. Houra! :)
[16:00] <BluesKaj> floown, cool ! :)
[16:01] <BluesKaj> floown, maybe you should report that as bug
[16:01] <BluesKaj> a bug
[16:03] <cameron> hmmm even after reinstalling firefox 3, and making sure that firefox 2 wasn't loaded, I still can't get it to even open
[16:06] <ocs> hi. how can i downgrade vlc0.9 to 0.8 usyng apt ?
[16:06] <ocs> hi. how can i downgrade vlc0.9 to 0.8 using apt ?
[16:08] <Dr_willis> !downgrade
[16:08] <Dr_willis> Hmm
[16:08] <Dr_willis> !pin
[16:08] <Dr_willis> The apt-get guides mention how to do that ocs
[16:08] <Dr_willis> you pin the specific version I think.
[16:09] <ocs> thnks Dr_willis
[16:09] <MilitantPotato> cameron: open system monitor, make sure firefox isn't listed there
[16:09] <cameron> okay will do militantpotato
[16:09] <MilitantPotato> cameron: ctrl+esc i believe
[16:09] <cameron> hmmm it is!
[16:10] <cameron> taking up a lot of memory too!
[16:10] <MilitantPotato> cameron: kill it, then try again
[16:10] <Saka_> anyone having problems with pidgin in 8.10 kubuntu version
[16:10] <MilitantPotato> cameron: there may be a firefox-bin also
[16:10] <ocs> Dr_willis: i suspect it's not the best way to proceed
[16:10] <cameron> should I 'kill' it?
[16:11] <MilitantPotato> cameron: I'm not sure if kill is more risky then end...
[16:11] <Dr_willis> I cant imagine why one wants to downgrade  vlc.. but i guess ya got reasons..
[16:11] <cameron> risky as in how?
[16:12] <MilitantPotato> Data loss? I'm not sure, I vaguely remember something about only killing if absolutely needed, but I may be wrong.
[16:12] <cameron> (shrug) well all my stuff is backed up
[16:12] <cameron> here I go
[16:12] <cameron> killed
[16:12] <cameron> should I run it now?
[16:13] <MilitantPotato> make sure nothing called firefox or firefox-bin is still running, then yea
[16:13] <cameron> okay one sec
[16:14] <cameron> okay it's working
[16:14] <cameron> thanks!
[16:14] <MilitantPotato> good deal
[16:14] <cameron> also one last question.....but I appreciate you helping with the first one
[16:14] <cameron> I have an external hard drive
[16:14] <cameron> sometimes I can load files on, sometimes can't
[16:14] <cameron> I can always read files though
[16:14] <cameron> it's FAT32
[16:15] <MilitantPotato> does it have an entry in fstab?
[16:15] <cameron> sorry where would I find that?
[16:17] <MilitantPotato> /etc/fstab, you'll want to read into it before editing that file, but my external fat entry looks like this: UUID=469E-6D26 /media/Ubuntu vfat auto,relatime,users,noexec,async,utf8,nodev,rw,nosuid,umask=007,gid=1000,uid=1000 0 0
[16:18] <MilitantPotato> cameron: I'm not sure if that's the ideal setup, though, just what I mashed together from the fstab manual and a couple guides
[16:18] <MilitantPotato> er, the auto should be noauto
[16:19] <cameron> okay one sec here
[16:20] <MilitantPotato> /dev/???        /media/???        vfat        user,umask=000        0   0 may work also
[16:21] <MilitantPotato> user allows you to mount/unmount umask=000 allows read, write, and I execute
[16:22] <thomas__> hi
[16:22] <MilitantPotato> the ???'s are what you'd need to sort out yourself, you'll need to make a directory in /media for the name you give the mount
[16:22] <cameron> is the external hd sda6 or 7?
[16:22] <cameron> I just have one internal hard driive
[16:23] <noaXess> how do you people offer remote support for customers? any hint, good link? i treid uktravncsc, but only for mä, tried gitsto and quicksupport (old)..
[16:23] <noaXess> any oder tools? for simple remote support?
[16:23] <thomas__> hi
[16:23] <cameron> I don't see any ????s though
[16:23] <MilitantPotato> cameron: I've no idea what your setup is.  the ??? is what you need to enter
[16:24] <thomas__> wie geht
[16:24] <MilitantPotato> /dev/??? would be something like /dev/sdb2 or whatever
[16:24] <cameron> okay
[16:24] <thomas__> euch+
[16:24] <MilitantPotato> the /media/??? is the name ya give the drive.
[16:24] <MilitantPotato> ??? being what-ever you choose.
[16:24] <cameron> # /dev/sda6
[16:24] <cameron> UUID=a9cc4bdf-4fd6-43d1-b627-247448580105 /               ext3    relatime,errors=remount-ro 0       1
[16:24] <cameron> # /dev/sda7
[16:24] <cameron> UUID=cf026fb4-1bda-43ba-89df-24bdcd212922 none            swap    sw              0       0
[16:24] <cameron> sorry for the long text
[16:24] <cameron> I didn't mean that
[16:25] <thomas__> was redet ihr
[16:26] <thomas__> jun wie geht
[16:30] <cameron> ah well, another day another problem
[16:30] <cameron> thank you militantpotato
[16:30] <cameron> I appreciate your help!
[16:38] <joe312d> how do u change nick??
[16:38] <mini-man> /nick zomgwtfbbq
[16:40] <Nixxxon> same as emule IRC or MirC
[16:41] <Nixxxon> anyone knows the diff between mandriva and kubuntu apps?
[16:44] <BluesKaj> joe312d__, depends on the desktop , kde or gnome ...mandriva uses either one
[16:44] <BluesKaj> the apps will be the , the method of installation is different
[16:44] <BluesKaj> same
[16:45] <nixxxon> i cant connect to internet on mandriva while ubuntu no prob.
[16:46] <BluesKaj> nixxxon, then the ppl at #mandriva should be able to help you
[16:47] <nixxxon> they said to try to disable ipV6 but i m afraid to do it
[16:47] <nixxxon> it might mess up my windows inst
[16:48] <Dr_willis> diabling ipv6 shouldent mess up anything.
[16:49] <Dr_willis>  /me misses how this has to do with windows...
[16:49] <nixxxon> and thats just one of 3 possible causes
[16:49] <Dr_willis> If you are booted to Ubuntu or Mandraiva..  - Windows dosent have much to do with it..
[16:49] <Dr_willis> Unless we are missing somthing..
[16:50] <nixxxon> i know but disabling ipv6 might mess up my conn using windows later
[16:50] <Dr_willis> I dont see how.
[16:50] <Dr_willis> Unless you are not giving us some details...
[16:50] <nixxxon> well ill stick to ubuntu, it works flawlessly
[16:51] <Dr_willis> Ipv6 is a feature of the OS.  if you disable it in mandriva.. that wont affect windows at all.
[16:51] <nixxxon> i c
[16:51] <Dr_willis> !ipv6
[16:52] <nixxxon> i got that article from mandriva forum already
[16:53] <Dr_willis> mandriva forum posting links to Ubuntu Docs? :)
[16:53] <nixxxon> mandriva connects to internet for 3 minutes then shuts off
[16:53] <Dr_willis> shame on them! heh
[16:53] <Dr_willis> that dosent sound like an ipv6 issue to me.
[16:53] <Dr_willis> is this wired or wireless?
[16:53] <nixxxon> no it was a mandriva issue not ububtu
[16:53] <nixxxon> wired
[16:54] <nixxxon> well precisely why i dont want to start fixing it
[16:55] <nixxxon> ubuntu has auto config during install but mandriva configures it from desktop
[16:57] <delicowa> hey guy which linux distro is  best for servers redhat,mandriva,fedora,debian........................etc
[16:57] <Dr_willis> Depends on what the server admins like.. and what the servers are doing - i imagine..
[16:57] <nixxxon> all of the above
[16:57] <Dr_willis> about any of them can do server tasks..
[16:58] <nixxxon> the distro is just a cosmetic name delicowa
[16:58] <delicowa> well then I suppose because they use the same kernel they are just gonna have the same security
[16:59] <nixxxon> they just released latest mint  2wks ago if u like cosmetics
[17:00] <delicowa> http://ng.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/k/kdelibs/kdelibs4c2a_3.5.10-0ubuntu6_i386.deb,,,,              and .....................http://ng.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/k/kde4libs/kdelibs5_4.1.2-0ubuntu10_i386.deb                                   please which on of the folloeing is for kde3 and kde4
[17:02] <delicowa> what is the latest mint
[17:04] <Daisuke_Ido> delicowa: look at the versions
[17:04] <Daisuke_Ido> the first one is 3.5.10, so it's a pretty safe bet it corresponds to kde 3.5.10, just as the second one's version is 4.1.2, so from that you can probably guess what kde version it foes with
[17:04] <Daisuke_Ido> goes*
[17:05] <delicowa> thanks bud
[17:06] <delicowa> I do most of my downloads with a download manager run with wine (cos my internet around here is pretty slow)
[17:06] <delicowa> say...is there any download manager for linux apart from wget...that uses almost the same principle as IDM
[17:07] <nogagplz> delicowa: haven't used IDM for a very very long time, but Multiget is rather nice
[17:08] <delicowa> does MILTIGET work for linux and how do I get it is it available via synaptic or adept
[17:09] <jhutchins_wk> !v multiget
[17:09] <andreas> buennas!!
[17:09] <jhutchins_wk> !find multiget
[17:09] <andreas> :D
[17:09] <nogagplz> delicowa: Multiget has a native version for Linux, but I dunno if it's in the repos, I've just been building it from source
[17:09] <andreas> hola?
[17:09] <andreas> hii!!
[17:10] <andreas> hallo?
[17:10] <jhutchins_wk> !spanish
[17:10] <andreas> ¬¬
[17:12] <no0tic> how can I install kde3 on interpid?
[17:12] <no0tic> *intrepid
[17:13] <bobJR> can anyone help me ive used a couple ftp clients and with most of them well kftpgrabber im using now if i loose connection it doesnt reconnect and download does anyone know a ftp client that does this ?
[17:14] <bobJR> filezilla isnt working right either
[17:25] <delicowa> I think intrepid uses KDE 4
[17:25] <delicowa> so why would you want KDE3 instead of $
[17:25] <delicowa> *4 not $
[17:25] <Dr_willis> a lot of people hate Kde4 :)
[17:26] <delicowa> why
[17:26] <delicowa> why
[17:27] <Dr_willis> why ask why.
[17:27] <Dr_willis> let see.. crashs, lacking features.  more system load/resources needed...
[17:28] <delicowa> oooooooookay. but I believe they said it is still in developpment stage
[17:31] <delicowa> ok then to that  guy. I suppose onway  is to know the files needed any manually use dpkg to force KDE3 installation
[17:31] <delicowa> except there is a better way to make snaptic prefer old packages
[17:56] <ubuntu_> hi
[17:56] <grufti> im trying to create a new logical partition using fdisk
[17:57] <amerigo> greetings
[17:57] <grufti> but im getting an error that there are no free sectors
[17:58] <grufti> although when i press v it says there are  47xxxxxx still unused
[17:58] <grufti> creating a primary partition seems to work however
[17:58] <grufti> but that seems odd to me Oo
[17:58] <Dr_willis> a logical goes instide an extended partition... or is it the other way
[17:58] <grufti> thats right
[17:59] <Dr_willis> primary (extended  <logicals>)
[17:59] <Dr_willis> hda2 = first extended,,  hda5 = logical in extended.. I think, :)
[18:00] <grufti> so i want a hda6 using the free space ;)
[18:02] <grufti> ive already tried adding another logical partition via windows which doesnt work either
[18:41] <levidos> i think i misconfigured somethink with my network adapter. when i boot from liveCD, i can see the auto eth0 adapter. but when i boot from my installation, i can't see it and it's not working :(
[18:41] <levidos> pls help
[18:51] <jagodragon> is any one out there?
[18:52] <Jurgentje> ask ahead
[18:52] <karsten> levidos: ifconfig -a shows what?
[18:52] <karsten> levidos: 'lspci' should also list your network interface(es) on the PCI buss.
[18:52] <karsten> bus.
[18:52] <jagodragon> adept is locked and i forgot the comand to unlock it, can some one help please
[18:54] <jagodragon> any one
[18:54] <levidos> karsten_: ifconfig -a shows three interfaces: eth0, lo and pan0
[18:55] <karsten> levidos: And what happens when you try to configure eth0?  How are you trying to configure it?
[18:55] <levidos> the interesting thing is that if i make a pppoe connection, it;s working. but recently i bought a router and i don't want pppoe connection anymore
[18:56] <jagodragon> can you back up your data and reinstall?
[18:57] <karsten> levidos: In terminal:  sudo dhclient eth0
[18:57] <karsten> levidos: ... does what?
[18:59] <levidos> back
[18:59] <karsten> levidos: ??
[18:59] <levidos> sincerely i dont know how to configure it :)
[18:59] <levidos> on my notebook i have a networking icon next to the volume control
[19:00] <levidos> but on the pc it's not showing up
[19:00] <snyh> ls
[19:00] <levidos> i wish to obtain the ip address automatically by dhcp
[19:00] <snyh> ..
[19:02] <levidos> system -> administration -> network tools i can see two network devices: the loopback and eth0
[19:02] <levidos> if i select eth0, only ipv6 protocol is showing up
[19:03] <levidos> while on the loopback i have both ipv4 and ipv6
[19:03] <karsten> levidos: You should be able to add that control to your panel.  Right-click on panel and add applets.
[19:03] <karsten> levidos: CLI's a lot more straightforward for this stuff. Fire up a terminal and run:  'ifconfig -a; route -n' and pastebin results
[19:04] <Jurgentje> jagodragon: have you tried killing adept?
[19:04] <jagodragon> yes
[19:04] <levidos> just a sec... i need a flash drive to copy the results :)
[19:06] <levidos> can i paste it here??
[19:06] <Jurgentje> jagodragon: and does apt-get work?
[19:06] <karsten> !pastebin | levidos
[19:07] <jagodragon> no apt-get does not work
[19:07] <levidos> http://paste.ubuntu.com/74455/
[19:07] <jagodragon> adept crashed and is still locked
[19:08] <Strapon> hi all
[19:08] <Jurgentje> and if you try rebooting, normally all open connections are closed. This does not happen?
[19:08] <Jurgentje> hi Strapon
[19:08] <Strapon> what speak there ?
[19:09] <Strapon> Jurgentje> where are u fro m?
[19:09] <Strapon> Jurgentje> eeeeyyy
[19:09] <levidos> karsten: maybe i should enable the ipv4 protocol on eth0 interface
[19:09] <karsten> levidos: OK.  eth0 isn't configured.  Run:  'sudo dhclient eth0' and see if you get an address.
[19:10] <levidos> workingggg
[19:10] <levidos> :D
[19:10] <levidos> ^:)^
[19:11] <karsten> levidos: You've got it going?
[19:11] <levidos> yes karsten, thanx. and how can i configure ip address manually?
[19:11] <levidos> a gui way :-)
[19:11] <karsten> levidos: I prefer setting it in /etc/network/interfaces myself.  man 5 interfaces.  Examples in /usr/share/doc/ifupdown/examples/
[19:12] <karsten> levidos: The GUI is:  use your favorite editor ;-)
[19:12] <rasmus_> I have a problem with the newest uppdate! It won't finnish, and then my computer won't start when i reeboot
[19:12] <karsten> rasmus_: Where does it stop starting?  How far through boot does it get?
[19:14] <Jurgentje> Strapon: sorry, I'm from Belgium
[19:15] <levidos> what does ifupdown mean?
[19:15] <bentob0x> anybody knows how to restart the usb subsystem?
[19:17] <nplus> Hi. The select and input elements in Fx3 have some nasty default background. Can I make Gecko render them using gtk or is there a fix for that?
[19:22] <RanydboY> Mh, i have a problem... Tried to install Ultimate Edition over my old clean ubuntu, but the dvd is corrupted in some ways. It stops installing on 47% and its just enough to "#%"#% grub
[19:23] <RanydboY> And second, im running UE on LiveCD and this mahine is the only one i have with a dvd-burner
[19:24] <RanydboY> Any ideas on how to solve this problem?
[19:24] <rasmus_> Karsten: When it reebots it stops with this message: Target filesystem doesn't have /sbin/init
[19:25] <rasmus_> I manage to fix that with a live-cd and reinstalling some program, i don't remember the name, but i can check if it's importent.
[19:25] <rasmus_> My problem right know seems to be how to get the uppdate to work!
[19:28]  * _mz_ is back (gone 00:00:39)
[19:28]  * _mz_ is away: Away
[19:31] <levidos> .
[19:34] <karsten> RanydboY: One of the CD boot options is to do a media validation.  Try that.
[19:35] <rasmus_> Some one hwo kan help me?
[19:35] <karsten> RanydboY: ... if you can, get another bootable CD and use that to boot, download another image, and burn that.  Knoppix should work for you.
[19:35] <karsten> RanydboY: And TEST YOUR BURN BEFORE YOU BOOT.  *ESPECIALLY* if you have no fallback option.
[19:36] <karsten> !ask | rasmus_
[19:37] <rasmus_> I've allready asked! But here it comes again: I have a problem with the newest uppdate! It won't finnish, and then my computer won't start when i reeboot.  Karsten: When it reebots it stops with this message: Target filesystem doesn't have /sbin/init. I manage to fix that with a live-cd and reinstalling some program, i don't remember the name, but i can check if it's importent. My problem right know seems to be how to
[19:37] <rasmus_> get the uppdate to work!
[19:37] <xuzas> hola
[19:38] <xuzas> :D
[19:38] <karsten> rasmus_: You should be able to hit '<esc>' at the GRUB prompt.  Confirm that the kernel line's root filesystem spec is accurate.
[19:38] <Nazca> I just plugged a graphics tablet in to my kubuntu machine and it seems to be doing ... "interesting" things with the co-ordinates
[19:38] <Nazca> any suggestions?
[19:38] <karsten> rasmus_: Otherwise, boot a livecd, chroot into your partially installed system, and attempt to restart/continue the install.
[19:39] <sushiX> i am getting an error when i play music in Amarok player      Audio output unavailable; the device is busy.     xine parameters:
[19:41] <karsten> sushiX: check to see what else is accessing your audio device(s).  'lsof' as root (use sudo).  /dev/mixer, /dev/dsp, and related.
[19:41] <sushiX> karsten: what does lsof do
[19:42] <sushiX> when i play music with vlc it works fine
[19:42] <karsten> sushiX: 'man lsof' tells you what the command does.
[19:43] <Strator> can someone pls private me about settings for X?
[19:43] <RanydboY> karsten: i have the option to reinstall regualr ubuntu or knoppis or something, but i hoped there was a way to get around that... if only i could boot back into windows i could download another image and burn... could i get any way in "burning" the image to my usb-stick? just a thought
[19:43] <Salze_> How can I play a .flv file? mplayer plays it, but way too fast - I'd guess ff x16.
[19:43] <karsten> RanydboY: If Windows is still installed on the system, you can manually attempt booting it at the GRUB shell.
[19:44] <rasmus_> karsten, how do i restart an install. And can't i make another try before i reebot my system? It feels abit uneccesary to restart my computer before i fix it
[19:44] <karsten> RanydboY: Find a dual-boot howto.  Essentially you're going to type in the appropriate commands at the GRUB prompt.  <esc> at boot time should get you into that.
[19:44] <RanydboY> karst, ok? windows is still installed its just grub failing to give me the options cause it installed ultimate edition halfway
[19:45] <RanydboY> that was to karsten
[19:45] <karsten> rasmus_: check your /etc/apt/sources.list, make sure it points to theversion of Kubuntu you're trying to update.  Run:  aptitude update; aptitude dist-upgrade.
[19:45] <karsten> a
[19:46] <karsten> RanydboY: See prior response
[19:47] <HUNTER_byte> How do I configure the fonts and the look for KDE4 applications? I have to do it via the command line because I'm using GNOME at the moment.
[19:47] <ekseniks> Hi
[19:47] <rasmus_> karsten: thank you! I'll try that!
[19:48] <karsten> HUNTER_byte: Run 'systemsettings' manually from commandline.  Should pop uptheKDE systems settings tool (used to be kcontrol).
[19:50] <HUNTER_byte> karsten: thanks
[19:50] <karsten> HUNTER_byte: There are also configs under ~/.kde/ you can look at though AFAIK they're not documented or meant to be interactively edited.
[20:01] <philippe_> what are the main packages needed to build an application ?? I allready have installed build-essential and cmake but I get an error about FindKDE4.cmake not found ...
[20:15] <ricky1966>  /msg NickServ identify 250766
[20:15] <Pici> ricky1966: I suggest you change that password
[20:15] <ricky1966>  /msg NickServ identify <250766>
[20:15] <ricky1966> yes
[20:16] <ricky1966> only english on this channel ?
[20:16] <Pici> Yes.
[20:16] <JackWinter> anyone know if 8.10 has a more recent alsa than 8.04 ?
[20:16] <Pici> !it | ricky1966
[20:16] <ricky1966> tks
[20:17] <Omoikane_> Adobe release an alpha of their flash player for 64 bit linux? I down loaded it and it's a .so not sure how to install or if I can install it.
[20:20] <ghostcube> hi folks
[20:20] <ghostcube> anyoner knows how to get the sensors working on an asus p5q-pro mobo
[20:25] <nplus> Hi, how can I rebind the play/pause button to be XF86AudioPause not XF86AudioPlay (8.10)?
[20:25] <waylandbill> is there a package that has vista like window decorations for kwin?
[20:35] <monteleo> ok
[20:36] <noaXess> good evening
[20:36] <noaXess> what about that? http://paste.ubuntu.com/74482/
[20:37] <noaXess> can i do a sudo apt-get autoremove?
[20:37] <noaXess> i use 8.10, kde4...
[20:37] <isaac_> Hi everybody, I desperately need help.  I've done countless google searches to no avail.  I just updated to kubuntu 8.10 from 8.4 (which worked flawlessly) and now my computer is crashing at least once every thirty minutes, probably more frequently.
[20:38] <philippe_> noaXess: yes there shouldn't be any problem ....
[20:38] <isaac_> When it crashes the caps lock light, and the light right next to it start to blink.  I have a inspiron 1420 (shipped with ubuntu).  After experiencing this problem, I whiped my computer clean and reinstalled from the kubuntu install cd.  But I'm still having it.
[20:38] <rasmus_> I've suddenly got a problem with xine! I've been using amarok for a year, no problems so far. I'havent uppdated my system since it worked last time. So suddenly i got this message, and no music: "XINE was unable to initialize any audio-drivers"
[20:39] <noaXess> philippe_: but kdebase-workspace... is that not a main pacage for kde4?
[20:39] <isaac_> Has anybody heard of this problem?  Do you know how I can fix it?
[20:39] <monteleo> Ubuntu update never worked without problems for me
[20:40] <philippe_> noaXess: it's not installed on y system and everything works ok
[20:41] <noaXess> ok.. thanks philippe_
[20:41] <philippe_> you're welcome
[20:45] <isaac_> Does anybody have any idea how I can go about solving this problem?  It has left my computer useless at a critical time (I'm studying for finals).
[20:45] <rasmus_> I've suddenly got a problem with xine! I've been using amarok for a year, no problems so far. I'havent uppdated my system since it worked last time. So suddenly i got this message, and no music: "XINE was unable to initialize any audio-drivers"
[20:47] <isaac_> Anybody?
[20:47] <isaac_> Please?
[20:48] <philippe_> isaac_: it looks like a kernel panic the flashing lights but I don't know how to resolv it
[20:49] <isaac_> Has nobody else experienced this?  I would expect that kubuntu would be well tested on the the inspiron 1420 (that's why I got it).
[20:49] <isaac_> philippe_:  is there anything I can do?  should I just give up my passing this semester?
[20:50] <emerson> hi anyone knows how to convert pdf into odf ?
[20:50] <ghostcube> u can import pdf into oo3
[20:50] <ghostcube> with an plugin
[20:50] <ghostcube> but i dont know if u can save it then as odf
[20:55] <emerson> hello I need to convert pdf into odf, if anyone knows put on the pastebin for me, please
[20:57] <waylandbill> emerson: you're probably going to have to OCR it or somehow convert it to text, or use kpdf to select the text. It's not a magic click a button process.
[20:58] <waylandbill> emerson: better yet, why not find the author and ask them for the source file that was used to make the pdf.
[20:58] <KennethP> emerson: have a look at http://sourceforge.net/projects/pdf2oo
[21:02] <alexei> hi, is there a place in internet where one could place customized deb repository of about 255M?
[21:09] <JackWinter> anyone know if 8.10 has a later alsa than 8.04 ?
[21:12] <pom2002> !extras
[21:15] <gekkoo> JackWinter: alsa 1.0.17 i guess
[21:18] <JackWinter> i have 8.10 on my laptop, how do i check which version is installed.  adept doesn't seem to show the already installed packages..?
[21:19] <gekkoo> it isnt actually a package. alsa is integrated into the kernel
[21:20] <JackWinter> yeah, but 8.04 shows a package called alsa-base.  not there in 8.10
[21:20] <gekkoo> oh
[21:20] <JackWinter> am asking in #alsa what the command is to see the version installed.
[21:20] <gekkoo> well, i see. i'm using 8.10 too, but i got that package
[21:20] <gekkoo> its 1.0.17
[21:21] <Archdevil> JackWinter, tried alsaconf or alsaconfig?
[21:21] <JackWinter> cool, thanks
[21:21] <gekkoo> oh yea, alsamixer shows the version too
[21:21] <JackWinter> alsaconf or config does not exist
[21:22] <JackWinter> cool, think i'm gonna installed 8.10 on a 2:nd partition on my main system for some tests...
[21:23] <Kalmairn> If I want to change my network configuration from dhcp to static addressing, how do I do that?
[21:24] <gekkoo> Kalmairn: edit /etc/network/interfaces
[21:25] <gekkoo> or..if you use 8.10 use knetworkmanager -> new conn. -> eth0 -> manual ip config
[21:25] <Archdevil> Kalmairn, go for the latter option
[21:25] <JackWinter> the command is cat /proc/asound/version
[21:26] <Kalmairn> Ok, so if I used the first option, is this right?  http://pastebin.com/d7c872f5
[21:27] <gekkoo> Kalmairn: looks good
[21:27] <Kalmairn> Right, so with that config I run /etc/init.d/networking restart.
[21:27] <Kalmairn> My static is applied to eth0.
[21:28] <Kalmairn> But, dhclient is still running.
[21:28] <Kalmairn> So, after the renewal period expires, my address switches back to DHCP.
[21:28] <gekkoo> usually you need to enter the nameserver into /etc/resolv.conf
[21:28] <gekkoo> hm, kill dhclient?
[21:29] <Kalmairn> If I kill dhclient, NetworkManager stops and knetworkmanager claims I'm in offline mode.
[21:29] <Kalmairn> ...which, with the tighter integration, also puts aware applications into offline mode.
[21:30] <gekkoo> maybe you should use the 2nd option I mentioned
[21:30] <Kalmairn> I tried that first, but I'll remove the configuration from interfaces and see if it works this time.
[21:30] <Kalmairn> Do I need any reference at all in /etc/network/interfaces for eth0?
[21:31] <Kalmairn> When I put in my static, there was no reference at all; only had lines for lo.
[21:31] <gekkoo> hm, i think you don't need it. i've got a "auto eth0" line in it
[21:31] <Kalmairn> Ok, I didn't even have the auto eth0 line.
[21:32] <Kalmairn> Also, interestingly, if I run gconf-editor I don't have a System\Network key.
[21:32] <gekkoo> gconf? you use gnome?
[21:33] <Kalmairn> No.  The documentation for NetworkManager claims the configuration is stored in gconf.
[21:34] <Kalmairn> http://live.gnome.org/DarrenAlbers/NetworkManagerFAQ, look for the Configuration section.
[21:37] <mitsarionas> hey... does anyone know how can one view/change the cpu frequency? (i do that through guidance on my laptop, but it doesn't run on my desktop)
[21:38] <gekkoo> Kalmairn: it looks like the configuration for the networkmanager of gnome. the backend networkmanager does not depend on gconf or anything like that afaik
[21:38] <Kalmairn> k.
[21:38] <Kalmairn> I won't worry about that, then.
[21:39] <Kalmairn> In the meantime, I changed /etc/network/interfaces such that it only had "auto eth0".  I used knetworkmanager from the kdebar widgets, set up a manual configuration I called 'eth0'.
[21:40] <Kalmairn> Put in the ip, subnet (class-c), DNS and suffix.  Set the name (eth0) and set it to autoconnect.
[21:40] <Kalmairn> I disabled my network connection, re-enabled.  It still used dhclient.
[21:41] <gekkoo> did you name the new connection? maybe you can select it from the context-menu if you right-click on the tray-icon
[21:41] <Kalmairn> Address is DHCP.  Right-click on knetworkmanager, it says "eth0", second line is "eth0 (Manual IP config)".
[21:42] <Kalmairn> I can right-click, select New Connection, there's one item (which I created) eth0.  I click that, nothing changes.
[21:43] <gekkoo> hmm...
[21:43] <Kalmairn> This is why I went looking for the background configuration for NetworkManager, since that's what knetworkmanager front-ends.
[21:44] <gekkoo> well, the other way (through /etc/network/interfaces static config) it should work even though your knetworkmanager says you're offline
[21:46] <Kalmairn> Agreed.  Strange thing, when NetworkManager died (exited, whatever) and knetworkmanager realized it, it took all aware apps into offline mode.  It also appeared to stop applications from accessing the network.
[21:46] <Kalmairn> So, for example, Firefox automatically went into offline mode - I had to enable it.
[21:46] <Kalmairn> I couldn't get rdesktop to work at all.
[21:46] <gekkoo> strange, i never heard that knetworkmanager can take other apps offline
[21:47] <Kalmairn> At least, not from an icon I have on my desktop.
[21:47] <Kalmairn> gekkoo: Let me re-test.
[21:49] <Kalmairn> yep.
[21:50] <Kalmairn> Right-clicked on knetworkmanager, selected Deactivate Connection, Switch to Offline Mode.
[21:50] <Kalmairn> Firefox immediately went into offline mode.
[21:50] <gekkoo> funny
[21:51] <Kalmairn> I used another word, also started with 'f'.
[21:51] <Kalmairn> >:)
[21:51] <gekkoo> maybe just kill knetworkmanager :P
[21:52] <gekkoo> if you have static ip, it doesnt matter anyway
[21:53] <Kalmairn> I'm about there, yes.
[21:53] <Kalmairn> This zero-configuration stuff is really irritating.
[21:53] <gekkoo> http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/howto-ubuntu-linux-convert-dhcp-network-configuration-to-static-ip-configuration.html here's a nice tutorial. shows you two ways to configure static ip
[21:54] <gekkoo> kill dhclient + knetworkmanager before
[21:55] <PeperJohnny> hello guys. my Dolphin and konversation do not want to keep the sizes i set. even if i write it into configrc of the files they ignore that
[21:59] <PeperJohnny> nvm found a workaround
[22:05] <Princess> join #ubuntu.fr
[22:21] <massimo> hi
[22:21] <massimo> need help for wireless
[22:21] <massimo> is there someone willing to help me??
[22:22] <massimo> hello??
[22:22] <Stompzi> they might be, if you asked a question.
[22:22] <Stompzi> :)
[22:22] <massimo> ahah!!!
[22:22] <massimo> right
[22:22] <massimo> ok...i got kubuntu 8.10
[22:22] <massimo> trying to connect wiureless
[22:23] <massimo> I can get connected by wire but my wireless does not work
[22:23] <massimo> ...so what can I do??
[22:23] <massimo> I tried with WIcd
[22:23] <massimo>  with no result
[22:23] <massimo> Stompzi...can u help me??
[22:25] <massimo> can anybody help me to make my wireless work???
[22:27] <massimo> helloooo??
[22:27] <massimo> can anybody help me to make my wireless work???
[22:28] <Kohlrabi> What's notworking exactly?
[22:29] <massimo> i don't know
[22:29] <massimo> ....ok...kubuntu 8.10...wired works, wireless dont'. I use a USB key to connect wireless
[22:30] <snauz> hola a tod@s
[22:30] <massimo> iwlist can see the wireless line but i cannot connect
[22:31] <massimo> and i cannot ping
[22:31] <massimo> the router
[22:31] <snauz> una pregunta
[22:32] <massimo> so???
[22:33] <QContinueum> !es
[23:00] <Mr-S> hello
[23:02] <Dr_willis> !hi
[23:09] <massimo_> hello
[23:10] <massimo_> i need help to make my wireless work
[23:15] <snyderios> hello massimo
[23:15] <snyderios> maybe i can help u
[23:16] <burn_> how to extras .rar filies [li part1 part2 par3...] to one file [the one file is parterd into muliple peaces]?
[23:17] <jhutchins_wk> Can't help if they don't stick around.
[23:17] <jhutchins_wk> burn_: unrar the main (first) file, it should do the whole batch.
[23:18] <burn_> somentime extract only 4mb and sometimes 300mb and should be like 700mb
[23:18] <jhutchins_wk> burn_: unrar -e whateverfile.rar
[23:18] <jhutchins_wk> burn_: That's the luck of usenet.  Sometimes you get all the parts, sometimes you don't.  Could be different resolutions too.
[23:20] <burn_> i  download from rapid share and all 7 parts are there
[23:21] <burn_> unrar -e whateverfile.rar not working showing me help
[23:21] <snyderios> then open a console
[23:21] <burn_> i used sudo urar -e filepart1.rar
[23:21] <snyderios> cd /where/ever/the.rar/files/are
[23:22] <snyderios> hmm and it still doesn't work?
[23:22] <burn_> showing me the help like i type urar --help
[23:23] <burn_> UNRAR 3.80 beta 2 freeware      Copyright (c) 1993-2008 Alexander Roshal
[23:23] <burn_> Usage:     unrar <command> -<switch 1> -<switch N> <archive> <files...>
[23:23] <burn_>                <@listfiles...> <path_to_extract\>
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[23:23] <burn_>   e             Extract files to current directory
[23:23] <burn_>   l[t,b]        List archive [technical, bare]
[23:23] <burn_> and others command
[23:25] <Dr_willis> reread the help..
[23:25] <Dr_willis> its unrar e foo.rar
[23:25] <Dr_willis> :)
[23:25] <Dr_willis>  e = command, not a switch
[23:25] <snyderios> are these 7 .part01.rar, part02.rar etc ?
[23:25] <Dr_willis> !info unp
[23:25] <burn_> it is uraring it now :d thnx
[23:25] <Ekushey> e is a command?
[23:25] <Dr_willis> burn_,  :)
[23:26] <Dr_willis> tar works the same way
[23:26] <snyderios> or are there 6 files end with .part04.rar for eg. and on file, that ends with .rar only?
[23:26] <Dr_willis> tar xzvf   --> all commands
[23:26] <Dr_willis>   unrar  <command>  -<switch 1>
[23:26] <Ekushey> xzvf are the parameters, aren't they?
[23:26] <Ekushey> tar is the command
[23:27] <burn_> it show me that all is unrard and only 4mb of package is unrared
[23:27] <Dr_willis> e is the command to tell unrar what to do...
[23:27] <Dr_willis> tar is proberly a bad example.. beause most of the old docs still use the -xz type format/commands
[23:28] <dwidmann> Ekushey: yes, but if you want you can simplify that to xf or xvf ... it autodetects the compresssion type
[23:28] <Dr_willis> of coruse unrar is weird.. in that it dosent edfault to well.. like the name suggests.. extracting.. :)
[23:28] <burn_> it show me that all is unrard and only 4mb of package is unrared of 700 mb
[23:29] <Dr_willis> You extract the first archive of a multi-archive package
[23:29] <Dr_willis> foo.rar or foo.r01 normally
[23:29] <burn_> it is sudo unrar e part1.rar
[23:29] <Dr_willis> You dont need to do sudo
[23:30] <burn_> and it starts scaning for part 2, and ints add part 2
[23:30] <Dr_willis> what are the filennames of the archive anyway?
[23:30] <burn_> diablo 1 :D
[23:30] <burn_> Extracting from Diablo_mendingu86.part1.rar
[23:30] <burn_> Extracting  Diablo 1_mendingu86.iso                                   16%
[23:30] <burn_> Extracting from Diablo_mendingu86.part2.rar
[23:30] <burn_> ...         Diablo 1_mendingu86.iso                                   32%
[23:30] <burn_> and til the part7
[23:31] <burn_> and i opet the dir when 100% is compleated andonly 4mb is unpacked
[23:32] <burn_> or .1mb or 20mb
[23:32] <Dr_willis> could try winrar and wine
[23:32] <burn_> yup
[23:32] <burn_> going to try it right now :d
[23:32] <Dr_willis> that name schemd is  very werird..
[23:33] <Dr_willis> normally its .r## or similer
[23:33] <Dr_willis> you could cat them all together I guess. :)
[23:33] <burn_> how?
[23:34] <burn_> u mean ctrl + x? :D
[23:34] <jhutchins_wk> burn_: You probably don't have all of the files.
[23:35] <snyderios> or some of them have a CRC-error
[23:35] <oobe> unrar e Diablo_mendingu86.part1.rar
[23:35] <oobe> if you already tried that and that doesnt work then you probably have a corrupt rar
[23:35] <oobe> re download the rar where it messes up
[23:36] <oobe> i.e Diablo_mendingu86.part7.rar
[23:37] <burn_> it wast messes up, i can opet any of the archevi with ark and showing me file size 700 mb
[23:37] <burn_> ill try with winrar
[23:38] <oobe> ark uses the unrar binary anyway
[23:38] <oobe> so you will probably get the same result with more detail
[23:39] <burn_> how tu use unp a.k.a unrar all with...
[23:40] <oobe> i already told you
[23:40] <oobe> unrar e Diablo_mendingu86.part1.rar
[23:40] <burn_> ok
[23:40] <oobe> it will unpack the whole thing
[23:41] <burn_> unp has unrar it all :D
[23:42] <burn_> hiphip hurey 3 time for unp :D
[23:44] <burn_> what is the corret name for virtual drives in linux, somentihng like acestoniso or somenthing?
[23:44] <oobe> i just use mount
[23:44] <snyderios> dito
[23:45] <oobe> so im assuming it unpacked ok