| trv__ | ok i've found it | 00:18 |
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| trv__ | ubuntu must be one of the few if not the only distribution that sets KALLSYMS_ALL=y | 00:19 |
| trv__ | may ask why is this ? | 00:19 |
| === johanbr_ is now known as johanbr | ||
| === thegodfather is now known as fabbione | ||
| _ruben | huh, wtf .. the -virtual kernel in intrepid shows up as -server? confusing | 14:37 |
| === smb_tp_ is now known as smb_tp | ||
| mkrufky | rtg: Im sorry i know my emails are long-winded :-P | 15:20 |
| mkrufky | rtg: any other info u need? | 15:20 |
| mkrufky | smb_tp: ...and im back now -- thanks for noticing ;-) | 15:20 |
| rtg | mkrufky: nope. smb_tp is gonna handle it. | 15:20 |
| mkrufky | cool... thanks | 15:21 |
| smb_tp | mkrufky, whenever there was a v4l question. | 15:21 |
| smb_tp | mkrufky, :) | 15:21 |
| mkrufky | ah... | 15:21 |
| mkrufky | i started coming online later on in the day because i noticed i was getting less hauppauge work done :-P | 15:21 |
| smb_tp | mkrufky, I will go for the lum updates next. The info is quite sufficient | 15:21 |
| mkrufky | but you should feel free to email me if there ever is a question | 15:22 |
| mkrufky | ...and it doesnt have to be about hauppauge stuff -- i started off as a linuxtv.org guy before they found me :-) | 15:22 |
| smb_tp | mkrufky, Ah and since my day shifted rather to the other end... | 15:22 |
| mkrufky | hah murphy's law | 15:22 |
| mkrufky | i will just try to have more of a presence again | 15:22 |
| smb_tp | mkrufky, NP, I just should remember I can mail you. :) | 15:23 |
| mkrufky | yes... its mkrufky at linuxtv dot org | 15:23 |
| smb_tp | mkrufky, Ok, cool | 15:24 |
| smb_tp | mkrufky, Just a slight warning, it can take a bit until the changes will show up. There is a bit of other stuff ahead | 15:25 |
| mkrufky | thats ok .... i'll be happy when i see them in the git tree | 15:25 |
| mkrufky | i dont mind if it takes a month or two before they get pushed out to users | 15:25 |
| mkrufky | since the new sticks aren't available for purchase yet, anyway | 15:25 |
| smb_tp | mkrufky, It should not take that long. So that's okay then | 15:26 |
| mkrufky | ok cool | 15:27 |
| _ruben | hmm .. most recent -virtual kernel image package also shows as -server .. strange | 15:32 |
| rtg | zul: another xen question: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kernel-team/2008-November/003548.html | 15:34 |
| zul | rtg: yeah I saw it | 15:34 |
| zul | its on my list to answer | 15:35 |
| rtg | smb_tp: do you have all 12 v4l patches in a git repo ? I think there are at least 4 SRUs in that patch set in order to effectively track regressions. | 15:42 |
| laga | mkrufky: looks like my mail didn't go through. if you update the file name of the firmware, won't ehtat break existing setups? | 15:43 |
| mkrufky | no laga, there are no existing setups because that hardware is not shipping | 15:43 |
| mkrufky | laga: the email went thru, but u sent it to me privately without cc to the list | 15:43 |
| smb_tp | rtg, currently they are only in a private branch, if you are referring to the uvcvideo patch set | 15:43 |
| laga | mkrufky: ah. :) | 15:43 |
| mkrufky | rtg: pardon me being nosy -- which v4l patches? (im just curious) | 15:43 |
| laga | mkrufky: ah, right. some mailing lists do not set reply-to correctly. | 15:44 |
| mkrufky | correct | 15:44 |
| rtg | mkrufky: LP #290506 | 15:44 |
| mkrufky | thanx | 15:44 |
| smb_tp | mkrufky, Its chenges to uvcvideo driver to work with intrepid and the v4l compat lib | 15:44 |
| mkrufky | ah, very cool... we spoke about that stuff at plumbers... | 15:44 |
| mkrufky | laga: correction -- the hardware isnt shipping _yet_ | 15:45 |
| mkrufky | should be soon | 15:46 |
| smb_tp | mkrufky, yes. In that case there seemed to be some glitches in uvcvideo which made it not work with cheese. | 15:46 |
| mkrufky | i've been making a point to get driver support into the kernel BEFORE the devices appear on store shelves | 15:46 |
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| rtg | apw: you can push 'em straight in to the main repo. make sure the SOB trail includes mine and Ben's for the corresponding ACKs. | 16:41 |
| apw | i have added 'acked-by' as appropriate, is that sufficient | 16:42 |
| rtg | apw: yep | 16:43 |
| apw | cool thanks | 16:43 |
| Kano | hi rtg , somebody told me you have got a 2.6.28 repo, but it does not look like it would work | 17:37 |
| rtg | Kano: its not done yet. give it a week. | 17:38 |
| Kano | the jaunty one then? | 17:38 |
| rtg | apw: depmod sorts according to rules in /etc/depmod.d/ubuntu.conf. | 18:28 |
| rtg | if you install LBM, then LBM drivers come first in the search order. | 18:29 |
| rtg | there are problems if drivers of different names both claim the same PCI ID, but thats adifferent issue. | 18:29 |
| apw | yeah ok, makes sense. so what criteria is there for inclusion in lbm? | 18:31 |
| rtg | apw: um, its kind of loose. does it solve someone's problem without wreaking havoc? Is it a widely used device? Is the mainstream version totally borked? and on and on... | 18:32 |
| rtg | I think r8169 likely qualifies | 18:33 |
| apw | ok so i think this probabally is a good fit then, the version of r8169 is 'beta' in .27 and should be 'close to done' in .28 | 18:33 |
| apw | the reporter has pulled down the .28 version from somewhere and hand compiled it and seems to have had success with it | 18:34 |
| apw | ok ... so even if its a bust in the end learning how to put a module in here is worthwhile me thinks | 18:34 |
| rtg | apw: ok, so it can live in LBM for awhile. if it proves to be stable, then we could promote it to the kernel package in the ubuntu directory. | 18:35 |
| apw | sounds like a sane way forward | 18:35 |
| apw | rtg this thing is asking for the main kernel source at -10, is there some magic at play | 18:41 |
| rtg | what thing? | 18:43 |
| rtg | DKMS? | 18:43 |
| apw | oh .. heh ... when i tried to debuild lbm it asked for the -10 source tarballs | 18:43 |
| apw | but they don't exist as yet do they | 18:43 |
| rtg | apw: you'll need to build the -10 kernel, then install linux-headers* for your arch in the correct chroot. | 18:44 |
| apw | ok thanks ... | 18:44 |
| shay | anyone involved with Xen? | 20:27 |
| zul | shay: yep whats up? | 20:28 |
| shay | zul, any status of Xen support on Ubuntu 8.10 kernels? | 20:28 |
| zul | shay: yep domU only | 20:29 |
| shay | zul, I might be a little confused, but as far as it seems, or from what i can understand from the articles i've found, seems like Ubuntu is dropping support of Xen (and from what I understand, giving priority to support KVM instead) am I wrong? | 20:31 |
| zul | shay: xen is community suppored kvm is the prefered method | 20:32 |
| shay | zul, any links you can give me referring development status or how can I get started on helping to improve the situation? | 20:33 |
| fransman | do we have 2.6.28 or 2.6.29 in view for Jaunty? | 21:05 |
| rtg | .28 at the moment | 21:05 |
| fransman | cool | 21:06 |
| fransman | is there a git created ? | 21:06 |
| rtg | BenC is working on it. | 21:06 |
| fransman | BenC1: is that ubuntu-next.git ? | 21:09 |
| rtg | fransman: its gonna get rebased, so just wait a bit. | 21:10 |
| fransman | thanks for helping at the moment rtg: | 21:11 |
| mkrufky | laga: i just received your bounce | 21:43 |
| laga | my bounce? | 21:43 |
| mkrufky | Reason: Error: DNS server reported a server failure [101] | 21:43 |
| mkrufky | yes... you didnt get my response to your email, earlier | 21:44 |
| mkrufky | apparantly it bounced | 21:44 |
| mkrufky | dns problem on laga.ath.cx | 21:44 |
| mkrufky | thats a new one -- runnign a dns server on a dynamic domain :-P | 21:44 |
| mkrufky | of maybe dyndns just hiccup'd ... i dunno | 21:45 |
| laga | oh, damn. | 21:45 |
| laga | my dyndns expired again | 21:45 |
| mkrufky | ah | 21:45 |
| mkrufky | well that explains it :-P | 21:45 |
| laga | no, it hasnt | 21:46 |
| laga | but it was about to ;) | 21:46 |
| mkrufky | ah | 21:46 |
| laga | still weird | 21:47 |
| mkrufky | email is just not a great technology | 21:47 |
| mkrufky | ha! my dyndns is about to expire, too | 21:48 |
| * mkrufky makes mental note to renew tonight | 21:48 | |
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