/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2008/11/19/#ubuntu-kernel.txt

trv__ok i've found it00:18
trv__ubuntu must be one of the few if not the only distribution that sets KALLSYMS_ALL=y00:19
trv__may ask why is this ?00:19
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_rubenhuh, wtf .. the -virtual kernel in intrepid shows up as -server? confusing14:37
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mkrufkyrtg: Im sorry i know my emails are long-winded :-P15:20
mkrufkyrtg: any other info u need?15:20
mkrufkysmb_tp: ...and im back now -- thanks for noticing ;-)15:20
rtgmkrufky: nope. smb_tp is gonna handle it.15:20
mkrufkycool... thanks15:21
smb_tpmkrufky, whenever there was a v4l question.15:21
smb_tpmkrufky, :)15:21
mkrufkyah... 15:21
mkrufkyi started coming online later on in the day because i noticed i was getting less hauppauge work done :-P15:21
smb_tpmkrufky, I will go for the lum updates next. The info is quite sufficient15:21
mkrufkybut you should feel free to email me if there ever is a question15:22
mkrufky...and it doesnt have to be about hauppauge stuff -- i started off as a linuxtv.org guy before they found me :-)15:22
smb_tpmkrufky, Ah and since my day shifted rather to the other end...15:22
mkrufkyhah  murphy's law15:22
mkrufkyi will just try to have more of a presence again15:22
smb_tpmkrufky, NP, I just should remember I can mail you. :)15:23
mkrufkyyes... its mkrufky at linuxtv dot org15:23
smb_tpmkrufky, Ok, cool15:24
smb_tpmkrufky, Just a slight warning, it can take a bit until the changes will show up. There is a bit of other stuff ahead15:25
mkrufkythats ok .... i'll be happy when i see them in the git tree15:25
mkrufkyi dont mind if it takes a month or two before they get pushed out to users15:25
mkrufkysince the new sticks aren't available for purchase yet, anyway15:25
smb_tpmkrufky, It should not take that long. So that's okay then15:26
mkrufkyok cool15:27
_rubenhmm .. most recent -virtual kernel image package also shows as -server .. strange15:32
rtgzul: another xen question: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kernel-team/2008-November/003548.html15:34
zulrtg: yeah I saw it15:34
zulits on my list to answer 15:35
rtgsmb_tp: do you have all 12 v4l patches in a git repo ? I think there are at least 4 SRUs in that patch set in order to effectively track regressions.15:42
lagamkrufky: looks like my mail didn't go through. if you update the file name of the firmware, won't ehtat break existing setups?15:43
mkrufkyno laga, there are no existing setups because that hardware is not shipping15:43
mkrufkylaga: the email went thru, but u sent it to me privately without cc to the list15:43
smb_tprtg, currently they are only in a private branch, if you are referring to the uvcvideo patch set15:43
lagamkrufky: ah. :)15:43
mkrufkyrtg: pardon me being nosy -- which v4l patches?  (im just curious)15:43
lagamkrufky: ah, right. some mailing lists do not set reply-to correctly.15:44
mkrufkycorrect15:44
rtgmkrufky: LP #29050615:44
mkrufkythanx15:44
smb_tpmkrufky, Its chenges to uvcvideo driver to work with intrepid and the v4l compat lib15:44
mkrufkyah, very cool... we spoke about that stuff at plumbers...  15:44
mkrufkylaga: correction -- the hardware isnt shipping _yet_15:45
mkrufkyshould be soon15:46
smb_tpmkrufky, yes. In that case there seemed to be some glitches in uvcvideo which made it not work with cheese.15:46
mkrufkyi've been making a point to get driver support into the kernel BEFORE the devices appear on store shelves15:46
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rtgapw: you can push 'em straight in to the main repo. make sure the SOB trail includes mine and Ben's for the corresponding ACKs.16:41
apwi have added 'acked-by' as appropriate, is that sufficient16:42
rtgapw: yep16:43
apwcool thanks16:43
Kanohi rtg , somebody told me you have got a 2.6.28 repo, but it does not look like it would work17:37
rtgKano: its not done yet. give it a week.17:38
Kanothe jaunty one then?17:38
rtgapw: depmod sorts according to rules in /etc/depmod.d/ubuntu.conf.18:28
rtgif you install LBM, then LBM drivers come first in the search order.18:29
rtgthere are problems if drivers of different names both claim the same PCI ID, but thats adifferent issue.18:29
apwyeah ok, makes sense.  so what criteria is there for inclusion in lbm?18:31
rtgapw: um, its kind of loose. does it solve someone's problem without wreaking havoc? Is it a widely used device? Is the mainstream version totally borked? and on and on...18:32
rtgI think r8169 likely qualifies18:33
apwok so i think this probabally is a good fit then, the version of r8169 is 'beta' in .27 and should be 'close to done' in .2818:33
apwthe reporter has pulled down the .28 version from somewhere and hand compiled it and seems to have had success with it18:34
apwok ... so even if its a bust in the end learning how to put a module in here is worthwhile me thinks18:34
rtgapw: ok, so it can live in LBM for awhile. if it proves to be stable, then we could promote it to the kernel package in the ubuntu directory.18:35
apwsounds like a sane way forward18:35
apwrtg this thing is asking for the main kernel source at -10, is there some magic at play18:41
rtgwhat thing?18:43
rtgDKMS?18:43
apwoh .. heh ... when i tried to debuild lbm it asked for the -10 source tarballs18:43
apwbut they don't exist as yet do they18:43
rtgapw: you'll need to build the -10 kernel, then install linux-headers* for your arch in the correct chroot.18:44
apwok thanks ...18:44
shayanyone involved with Xen?20:27
zulshay: yep whats up?20:28
shayzul, any status of Xen support on Ubuntu 8.10 kernels?20:28
zulshay: yep domU only20:29
shayzul, I might be a little confused, but as far as it seems, or from what i can understand from the articles i've found, seems like Ubuntu is dropping support of Xen (and from what I understand, giving priority to support KVM instead) am I wrong?20:31
zulshay: xen is community suppored kvm is the prefered method20:32
shayzul, any links you can give me referring development status or how can I get started on helping to improve the situation?20:33
fransmando we have 2.6.28 or 2.6.29 in view for Jaunty?21:05
rtg.28 at the moment21:05
fransmancool21:06
fransmanis there a git created ?21:06
rtgBenC is working on it.21:06
fransmanBenC1: is that ubuntu-next.git ?21:09
rtgfransman: its gonna get rebased, so just wait a bit.21:10
fransmanthanks for helping at the moment rtg:21:11
mkrufkylaga: i just received your bounce21:43
lagamy bounce?21:43
mkrufkyReason: Error: DNS server reported a server failure [101]21:43
mkrufkyyes... you didnt get my response to your email, earlier21:44
mkrufkyapparantly it bounced21:44
mkrufkydns problem on laga.ath.cx21:44
mkrufkythats a new one -- runnign a dns server on a dynamic domain :-P21:44
mkrufkyof maybe dyndns just hiccup'd ... i dunno21:45
lagaoh, damn.21:45
lagamy dyndns expired again21:45
mkrufkyah21:45
mkrufkywell that explains it :-P21:45
lagano, it hasnt21:46
lagabut it was about to ;)21:46
mkrufkyah21:46
lagastill weird21:47
mkrufkyemail is just not a great technology21:47
mkrufkyha!  my dyndns is about to expire, too21:48
* mkrufky makes mental note to renew tonight21:48

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