[00:18] ok i've found it [00:19] ubuntu must be one of the few if not the only distribution that sets KALLSYMS_ALL=y [00:19] may ask why is this ? === johanbr_ is now known as johanbr === thegodfather is now known as fabbione [14:37] <_ruben> huh, wtf .. the -virtual kernel in intrepid shows up as -server? confusing === smb_tp_ is now known as smb_tp [15:20] rtg: Im sorry i know my emails are long-winded :-P [15:20] rtg: any other info u need? [15:20] smb_tp: ...and im back now -- thanks for noticing ;-) [15:20] mkrufky: nope. smb_tp is gonna handle it. [15:21] cool... thanks [15:21] mkrufky, whenever there was a v4l question. [15:21] mkrufky, :) [15:21] ah... [15:21] i started coming online later on in the day because i noticed i was getting less hauppauge work done :-P [15:21] mkrufky, I will go for the lum updates next. The info is quite sufficient [15:22] but you should feel free to email me if there ever is a question [15:22] ...and it doesnt have to be about hauppauge stuff -- i started off as a linuxtv.org guy before they found me :-) [15:22] mkrufky, Ah and since my day shifted rather to the other end... [15:22] hah murphy's law [15:22] i will just try to have more of a presence again [15:23] mkrufky, NP, I just should remember I can mail you. :) [15:23] yes... its mkrufky at linuxtv dot org [15:24] mkrufky, Ok, cool [15:25] mkrufky, Just a slight warning, it can take a bit until the changes will show up. There is a bit of other stuff ahead [15:25] thats ok .... i'll be happy when i see them in the git tree [15:25] i dont mind if it takes a month or two before they get pushed out to users [15:25] since the new sticks aren't available for purchase yet, anyway [15:26] mkrufky, It should not take that long. So that's okay then [15:27] ok cool [15:32] <_ruben> hmm .. most recent -virtual kernel image package also shows as -server .. strange [15:34] zul: another xen question: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kernel-team/2008-November/003548.html [15:34] rtg: yeah I saw it [15:35] its on my list to answer [15:42] smb_tp: do you have all 12 v4l patches in a git repo ? I think there are at least 4 SRUs in that patch set in order to effectively track regressions. [15:43] mkrufky: looks like my mail didn't go through. if you update the file name of the firmware, won't ehtat break existing setups? [15:43] no laga, there are no existing setups because that hardware is not shipping [15:43] laga: the email went thru, but u sent it to me privately without cc to the list [15:43] rtg, currently they are only in a private branch, if you are referring to the uvcvideo patch set [15:43] mkrufky: ah. :) [15:43] rtg: pardon me being nosy -- which v4l patches? (im just curious) [15:44] mkrufky: ah, right. some mailing lists do not set reply-to correctly. [15:44] correct [15:44] mkrufky: LP #290506 [15:44] thanx [15:44] mkrufky, Its chenges to uvcvideo driver to work with intrepid and the v4l compat lib [15:44] ah, very cool... we spoke about that stuff at plumbers... [15:45] laga: correction -- the hardware isnt shipping _yet_ [15:46] should be soon [15:46] mkrufky, yes. In that case there seemed to be some glitches in uvcvideo which made it not work with cheese. [15:46] i've been making a point to get driver support into the kernel BEFORE the devices appear on store shelves === kirkland` is now known as kirkland [16:41] apw: you can push 'em straight in to the main repo. make sure the SOB trail includes mine and Ben's for the corresponding ACKs. [16:42] i have added 'acked-by' as appropriate, is that sufficient [16:43] apw: yep [16:43] cool thanks [17:37] hi rtg , somebody told me you have got a 2.6.28 repo, but it does not look like it would work [17:38] Kano: its not done yet. give it a week. [17:38] the jaunty one then? [18:28] apw: depmod sorts according to rules in /etc/depmod.d/ubuntu.conf. [18:29] if you install LBM, then LBM drivers come first in the search order. [18:29] there are problems if drivers of different names both claim the same PCI ID, but thats adifferent issue. [18:31] yeah ok, makes sense. so what criteria is there for inclusion in lbm? [18:32] apw: um, its kind of loose. does it solve someone's problem without wreaking havoc? Is it a widely used device? Is the mainstream version totally borked? and on and on... [18:33] I think r8169 likely qualifies [18:33] ok so i think this probabally is a good fit then, the version of r8169 is 'beta' in .27 and should be 'close to done' in .28 [18:34] the reporter has pulled down the .28 version from somewhere and hand compiled it and seems to have had success with it [18:34] ok ... so even if its a bust in the end learning how to put a module in here is worthwhile me thinks [18:35] apw: ok, so it can live in LBM for awhile. if it proves to be stable, then we could promote it to the kernel package in the ubuntu directory. [18:35] sounds like a sane way forward [18:41] rtg this thing is asking for the main kernel source at -10, is there some magic at play [18:43] what thing? [18:43] DKMS? [18:43] oh .. heh ... when i tried to debuild lbm it asked for the -10 source tarballs [18:43] but they don't exist as yet do they [18:44] apw: you'll need to build the -10 kernel, then install linux-headers* for your arch in the correct chroot. [18:44] ok thanks ... [20:27] anyone involved with Xen? [20:28] shay: yep whats up? [20:28] zul, any status of Xen support on Ubuntu 8.10 kernels? [20:29] shay: yep domU only [20:31] zul, I might be a little confused, but as far as it seems, or from what i can understand from the articles i've found, seems like Ubuntu is dropping support of Xen (and from what I understand, giving priority to support KVM instead) am I wrong? [20:32] shay: xen is community suppored kvm is the prefered method [20:33] zul, any links you can give me referring development status or how can I get started on helping to improve the situation? [21:05] do we have 2.6.28 or 2.6.29 in view for Jaunty? [21:05] .28 at the moment [21:06] cool [21:06] is there a git created ? [21:06] BenC is working on it. [21:09] BenC1: is that ubuntu-next.git ? [21:10] fransman: its gonna get rebased, so just wait a bit. [21:11] thanks for helping at the moment rtg: [21:43] laga: i just received your bounce [21:43] my bounce? [21:43] Reason: Error: DNS server reported a server failure [101] [21:44] yes... you didnt get my response to your email, earlier [21:44] apparantly it bounced [21:44] dns problem on laga.ath.cx [21:44] thats a new one -- runnign a dns server on a dynamic domain :-P [21:45] of maybe dyndns just hiccup'd ... i dunno [21:45] oh, damn. [21:45] my dyndns expired again [21:45] ah [21:45] well that explains it :-P [21:46] no, it hasnt [21:46] but it was about to ;) [21:46] ah [21:47] still weird [21:47] email is just not a great technology [21:48] ha! my dyndns is about to expire, too [21:48] * mkrufky makes mental note to renew tonight