[00:08] <l_r> is there a live version of ubuntu for usb? (I am not asking about installing ubuntu from a cd to usb)
[00:18] <ubuntu_> TEMP
[00:19] <burn_> how to mount iso files but with program! acetoneiso site not working
[00:19] <snyderios> console
[00:19] <snyderios> then:
[00:19] <snyderios> sudo mount -o loop -t iso9660 /location/where/you/want/to/mount
[00:20] <snyderios> normally /media/cdrom or /media/cdrom0
[00:20] <snyderios> thats normally the way in (k)ubuntu
[00:21] <hitmanWilly> meh, all the CDs I use a lot I have ripped and shoved in fstab :P
[00:21] <snyderios> but you can choose a directory that you want, but !important! before you mount, the directory must exist
[00:22] <snyderios> hm, if you use an iso everyday, it is useful tu mount them with fstab
[00:22] <snyderios> but only to install a game or program, my method should work
[00:23] <falckon> i'm trying to play supertux, but every so often something consumes the cpu for a moment because it jitters, its very short (half a second maybe) but by running top with a very small delay it looks like Xorg
[00:23] <hitmanWilly> yeah, saves a lot of trouble hunting down discs
[00:23] <falckon> i recently updated to kubuntu 8.10 with kde 4 and i seem to have just started having this problem
[00:27] <fhumayun> hi, is this the channel to ask for help with ubuntu?
[00:28] <hitmanWilly> fhumayun, this is actually the kubuntu channel, but a lot of the issues are similar
[00:28] <fhumayun> k..this issue is kinda getting under my skin and ive spent alot of time researching it
[00:29] <fhumayun> i ve got a tosh laptop running at 1440x900 .. got /etc/X11/xorg.conf all squared away for the right displaysize
[00:29] <fhumayun> so that i get the fonts at 96 dpi
[00:29] <fhumayun> for the most part.. all my apps / UI look great
[00:30] <fhumayun> but browser fonts just suck still
[00:30] <fhumayun> i got all the mssfonts on.. pixel fonts on as well
[00:30] <fhumayun> also have the subpixel rendering set for LCD...smoothing
[00:30] <fhumayun> like i said.. fonts are hot everywhere except in browser (where they scale horribly)
[00:31] <hitmanWilly> using firefox for a browser, or something else?
[00:31] <fhumayun> yea.. tried FF/ Opera
[00:31] <hitmanWilly> hmm, kk
[00:32] <hitmanWilly> one sec, lemme look at something
[00:32] <fhumayun> thanks sir
[00:33] <hitmanWilly> ok, my guess is that the web page fonts are overriding yours, in ff the best way to fix this is to disable the override
[00:33] <fhumayun> yea. i got that unchecked as well :(
[00:34] <hitmanWilly> damn...kk
[00:34] <fhumayun> do u have this issue?
[00:34] <hitmanWilly> nope, run at 1680x1050 too...
[00:34] <fhumayun> so ur fonts are smooth in browser experience?
[00:34] <fhumayun> windows like?
[00:35] <hitmanWilly> yeah, well, they show up like I want them too anyway, usually turn off anti-aliasing and the like anyway
[00:36] <fhumayun> alright.. i think its as good as its gunna get
[00:36] <fhumayun> thanks guy
[00:36] <hitmanWilly> sorry I couldn't be more help
[00:36] <fhumayun> nah.. its fun to keep wrangling with linux stuff
[00:36] <fhumayun> keeps me out of other trouble
[00:36] <fhumayun> lolz
[00:36] <hitmanWilly> :)
[00:36] <fhumayun> once again..thanks sir!
[00:36] <hitmanWilly> np
[00:45] <lookas> http://paste.ubuntu.com/74558/ pleeease help!! cant start frostwire
[00:47] <lookas> http://paste.ubuntu.com/74558/ please no one??
[00:48] <hitmanWilly> well, from the looks of it, it can't find the main .jar file. how did you install it, btw?
[00:48] <lookas> sudo apt-get install...
[00:49] <dwidmann> lookas: is unpack200 in your path? Try typing "which 200"
[00:49] <dwidmann> **erm
[00:49] <dwidmann> which unpack200
[00:49] <lookas> which: no 200 in (/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/games:/usr/lib/qt4/bin:/home/koops/bin)
[00:49] <lookas> dont know what that is
[00:49] <dwidmann> which unpack200
[00:50] <lookas> which: no unpack200 in (/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/games:/usr/lib/qt4/bin:/home/koops/bin)
[00:50] <lookas> ammmm, no idea what that is
[00:50] <lookas> am i missing some package?
[00:51] <Joe0> Hello
[00:52] <Joe0> I need a little help
[00:52] <Joe0> not sure if this is the right place
[00:52] <Joe0> as #ubuntu wasn't working
[00:52] <peterbuldge> knetworkmanager isn't docking on startup for me.  the icon is just floating on the desktop/ is there a way to fix this?
[00:52] <Joe0> basically I have ubuntu 8.10 interpid
[00:52] <Joe0> and i want the snow effect
[00:53] <Joe0> it has water
[00:53] <Joe0> but no snow
[00:53] <Joe0> i done as much research as i can
[00:53] <Joe0> still no help
[00:53] <Joe0> so any help?
[00:55] <x_link> Hi!
[00:55] <x_link> Which repo do I need to add to get KDE4 in 8.04?
[00:55] <hitmanWilly> hmm, I'm not seeing an option for it either...they may have removed it...
[00:57] <xuzas> hii!!!
[00:59] <x_link> Anaybody?
[00:59] <Rioting_pacifist> my firefox just started segfaulting
[01:00] <hitmanWilly> reinstall it maybe, sounds like something got corrupted
[01:01] <snyderios> x_link: universe repositorities
[01:01] <Rioting_pacifist> no change, it still segfaults
[01:02] <killer_> has anyone tried to use /etc/init.d/networking start       in Kubuntu 8.10?
[01:03] <hitmanWilly> Rioting_pacifist, did you make any changes to your system just prior to the issue popping up?
[01:03] <shangyong> what's wrong??
[01:03] <shangyong> kubuntu 8.10/
[01:03] <killer_> I find that I cannot get a static IP set, and I cannot down the network that starts on boot with the /etc/init.d/networking stop  ... after exec this command .. ifconfig shows eth0 still up
[01:04] <Rioting_pacifist> i changed my xorg but its worked since then, hmm i did just run some suggestions from powertop, so ill try rebooting to see if that fixes it
[01:04] <shangyong> if you set static ip ,the network manager can't work
[01:04] <Rioting_pacifist> killer_: is NetworkManager still running after networking stop?
[01:05] <shangyong> you can use wicd to manager your network
[01:05] <killer_> I think at this point.. I spent enough time.. after a week of kubuntu 8.10 on two machines, and everything that I have been doing for years has become one battle after another. I'll be dropping kubuntu8.1
[01:06] <shangyong> unnessary ,just change your network manager
[01:06] <Rioting_pacifist> killer_: if you just kill NetworkManager it should fix your problem, most networking howtos on new ubunuts make it quite clear they dont work with networkmanager on
[01:06] <killer_> Rioting_pacifist: why would NetworkManager compete with the regular init.d scripts? shouldn't NetworkManager just be a GUI for the init.d scripts and config file edits?
[01:07] <killer_> shangyong: I don't need  a network manager.. bash and the operater at the console do a good job of network management
[01:08] <Rioting_pacifist> killer_: no, it wasnt producing a friendly enough way to sort out wireless networking and NetworkManager is the best of a bad bunch of wireless tools to make it useable by people that dont want to be editing /etc/networks. the easiest thing to do is kill NetworkManager and if that fixes your problems remove it
[01:08] <killer_> Rioting_pacifist: I tried using NetworkManager only, I set an IP and it still does DHCP to up the interface
[01:08] <hitmanWilly> killer_, so just disable network manager then, problem solved
[01:08] <rexito> alo
[01:09] <Rioting_pacifist> im saying this from a bunch of bad runnins with network manager, im guessing its the problem (it normally is) but it may not be
[01:09] <killer_> I would like NetworkManager to actually work.. I really don't care how the network is managed.. just as long as it can be managed
[01:09] <killer_> currently... if I stop my DHCP server.. I cannot get my kubuntu8.10 boxes on the network
[01:10] <Rioting_pacifist> killer_: if you know how to edit /etc/networking just kill NetworkManager and see if your manual settings work
[01:10] <Rioting_pacifist> */etc/networks
[01:10] <rexito> someone to set up the sound on a Toshiba Satellite l45-sp2046 ??
[01:11] <Rioting_pacifist> rexito: try #alsa i think i have but cant rember the settings it needed
[01:11] <killer_> Rioting_pacifist: how come NetworkManager doesn't edit those traditional files? where are the files it controls? so I can find them when I remote in w/ ssh
[01:12] <shangyong> iface eth0 inet static
[01:12] <shangyong> address 192.168.0.10
[01:12] <shangyong> netmask 255.255.255.0
[01:12] <shangyong> gateway 192.168.0.1
[01:13] <killer_> shangyong: I know how to setup the network/iptables/ etc. where are the files that NetworkManager changes?
[01:13] <rexito> add this line in alsa
[01:13] <hitmanWilly> killer_, yeah, I have issues with networkmanager myself....takes too many hints from the redmond school of design....lol
[01:13] <dwidmann> Hmm, koffice 2 beta 3 is out :)
[01:13] <killer_> to be fair .. I"ve been using Kubuntu since Edgy
[01:14] <rexito> options snd-hda-intel model=toshiba
[01:14] <killer_> I have it on two workstations and my laptop
[01:15] <rexito> 	
[01:15] <rexito> reboot and does not work, changed probe
[01:15] <rexito> options snd-hda-intel model=auto
[01:15] <rexito> is not sound
[01:15] <rexito> reboot and does not work , changed probe options snd-hda-intel model=3stack
[01:15] <rexito> is not sound
[01:17] <rexito>  	
[01:17] <rexito> any new idea?
[01:18] <Rioting_pacifist> rexito: have you tried #alsa
[01:18] <Rioting_pacifist> rexito: make sure its not just a setting that is mute by running alsamixer
[01:19] <rexito> /sbin/alsa: Warning: Processes using sound devices: 5214(kmix) 5666(wish8.5).
[01:19] <rexito> Unloading ALSA sound driver modules: snd-hda-intel snd-pcm-oss snd-mixer-oss snd-pcm snd-seq-dummy snd-seq-oss snd-seq-midi snd-rawmidi snd-seq-midi-event snd-seq snd-timer snd-seq-device snd-page-alloc (failed: modules still loaded: snd-hda-intel snd-mixer-oss snd-pcm snd-timer snd-page-alloc).
[01:27] <killer_> well I edited the interfaces file, stopped NetworkManager, removed it from /etc/rc2.d/ link.... and did /etc/init.d/networking start
[01:27] <killer_> and ifconfig shows no eth0
[01:27] <killer_> sheesh
[01:27] <killer_> it's like all of networking has been hosed in this version
[01:28] <x_link> I don't know if anybody answered.
[01:28] <x_link> But can somebody tell me which repo I need to get KDE4?
[01:28] <x_link> I use 8.04
[01:28] <dwidmann> x_link:  the ppa, one sec and I'll get you the whole deb line
[01:28] <dwidmann> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-members-kde4/ubuntu hardy main
[01:29] <dwidmann> I think
[01:29] <x_link> dwidmann: Thanks man!
[01:29] <x_link> I really appreciate it.
[01:29] <dwidmann> x_link: no problem
[01:30] <x_link> dwidmann: Then just sudo aptitude update, safe-upgrade, dist-upgrade.
[01:30] <x_link> Right?
[01:30] <dwidmann> x_link: no
[01:30] <dwidmann> x_link: you'll need to install the
[01:31] <dwidmann> stupid enter key ...
[01:31] <x_link> sudo aptitude install kde4
[01:31] <x_link> ?
[01:31] <dwidmann> x_link: you'll need to install the kubuntu-kde4-desktop package, unless you don't want the whole kubuntu deal ... you could just install whatever kde4 apps you want or whatnot too I suppose, most will be suffixed with -kde4, ie: konsole-kde4
[01:32] <dwidmann> x_link: config dir will be ~/.kde4, install prefix is /usr/lib/kde4/
[01:35] <x_link> dwidmann: Okey.
[01:36] <x_link> sudo aptitude install kubuntu-kde4-desktop then
[01:57] <dwidmann> I wonder why it is that ksysguard(kde4 version) doesn't work properly in kde3 :\
[02:09] <dwidmann> hehehe, koffice 2b3 only took "real 18m40.349s" to compile :)
[02:10] <x_link> Does anybody know how to remove the widget at the top in KDE4?
[02:11]  * mister-tea wonders what he did wrong as it took two hours to compile alsa
[02:12] <dwidmann> mister-tea: make use of make's -j and -l options, can speed things up dramatically on multi-core systems
[02:12] <nrich> I'm not able to set up dual monitors as I want them on kubuntu 8.10 can anyone help? I'm not a new user.
[02:13] <nrich> Currently I have it cloned, but the extra monitor keeps going black then coming back
[02:13] <nrich> it's a laptop as the base unit
[02:13] <mister-tea> how about on and 900mhz athlon?
[02:13] <x_link> Hurmm...
[02:13] <nrich> what I tried was using the automatic configuration wizardy thing that came up when I plugged the monitor in
[02:13] <x_link> Isn't there any kcontrol for kde4 or something?
[02:13] <nrich> RandR resize or whatever it's called
[02:14] <dwidmann> mister-tea: well, you can still make it multi-task with -j and it should speed it up a little ... but not without the price of making everything drag to a halt for you
[02:15] <mister-tea> that's all I was doing at the time anyway
[02:15]  * mister-tea this box is slower than my main box
[02:15] <dwidmann> x_link: no, it was dropped in favor of "systemsettings"
[02:17] <dwidmann> mister-tea: here's what my make command looks like ... probably wouldn't sit well with your box though: alias mymake="time make -j -s -l 5"
[02:18] <x_link> dwidmann: =/
[02:18] <x_link> So konqueror isn't in KDE4 eitehr.
[02:18] <x_link> I really like KDE3 better.
[02:18] <dwidmann> x_link: yes it is.
[02:18] <Dragnslcr> Of course it is
[02:18] <jtechidna> Konqueror is in KDE4
[02:18] <Dragnslcr> It just isn't the default file manager
[02:18]  * DoubleD is reverting back to KDE3 after two weeks of KDE4
[02:18] <x_link> DoubleD: I tried it some times.
[02:19] <x_link> I saw it now.
[02:20] <x_link> Hurmm
[02:20] <DoubleD> ya that was completely random. I posted that comment in the wrong window
[02:21] <DoubleD> I'm essentially going back to Hardy from Intrepid
[02:21] <x_link> So I can't remove dolphin-kde without removing kubuntu-kde4-dekstop.
[02:21] <x_link> Okey.
[02:21] <x_link> I didn't upgrade to 8.10 cause of KDE4.
[02:21] <x_link> But I want to try it a bit now.
[02:21] <x_link> But it seems messy in a way.
[02:21] <mister-tea> dwidmann: any idea why I can install ubuntu 8.04 on this box but I can't install kubuntu w/o failure?
[02:25]  * mister-tea wonders if he could just select the kde environments into this version
[02:26] <Dr_willis> mister-tea,  thats doable..
[02:26] <x_link> I really don't like KDE4 much at all.
[02:26] <Dr_willis> i had an odd machine that Ubuntu dident work but xubuntu did install.. 2 different disks
[02:26] <dwidmann> mister-tea: I don't know, not the first time I've heard of problems like that before, and it goes both ways
[02:26] <mister-tea> I might try it this install seems stable
[02:27] <mister-tea> I am close to the minimum ram
[02:28] <dwidmann> hmm, looks like print preview still crashes kword
[02:28]  * mister-tea this box was built from spare parts
[02:31] <x_link> Ahhhhhh, nice.
[02:31] <x_link> Back to KDE3 =)
[02:32]  * mister-tea fears the 4
[02:32] <nogagplz> 4 isn't that great
[02:32] <dwidmann> x_link: it may grow on you a bit ... my approach has been and still is to not run kde4 the de ... but to use its apps
[02:32] <x_link> mister-tea: Me too.
[02:32] <nogagplz> wonder if 3 is still in the repos, or will be in backports, or whatever
[02:32]  * nogagplz hasn't been on this distro in a long time
[02:32] <dwidmann> nogagplz: not in intrepid, though there is a third party repo for it, I think.
[02:32] <x_link> I really don't like that they have done to the menu, the theme, the look etc.
[02:32]  * mister-tea has a disc from mail
[02:33] <nogagplz> dwidmann: would you happen to have a link for it?
[02:33] <dwidmann> nogagplz: it can be compiled too ... not necessarily easily though
[02:33] <dwidmann> nogagplz: nope
[02:33] <dwidmann> nogagplz: I've only heard about it
[02:33] <nogagplz> dwidmann: I usually compile KDE, but at the moment my distcc machine is sleeping with dead ram and decided to go binary distro to ease the pain of setup until it's back in action
[02:33] <dwidmann> x_link: much of that can be changed
[02:34] <dwidmann> x_link: for example, if you right click the k-menu and change it to classic ..... or if you change the window decs to something like plastik, etc
[02:34] <x_link> dwidmann: Yeah I know. But still.
[02:34]  * mister-tea votes for kubuntu change
[02:34] <x_link> dwidmann: But I'm on my laptop now, I just want something that works.
[02:35] <x_link> Ahh, I will go for GNOME instead.
[02:35] <x_link> Or not =)
[02:35] <x_link> I REALLY like KDE 3.5.10
[02:35] <mister-tea> me too
[02:36] <dwidmann> x_link: my original solution was to switch to fluxbox and use it with kde4 apps ... then I compiled kde 3.5.9 the other day
[02:36]  * mister-tea had trouble with flux
[02:38] <dwidmann> mister-tea: what kind?
[02:38] <x_link> I use compiz for the theme I done and 2 other things, I really like the theme I did, my icons and I just simply like it.
[02:38] <x_link> KDE3 then.
[02:38] <DoubleD> well I'm going back back to hardy... I'll be back later
[02:39] <mister-tea> it wouldn't properly rcognize my video card so I had the low resolution flicker
[02:39] <dwidmann> mister-tea: that sounds like an Xorg problem, not a fluxbox problem
[02:39] <mister-tea> flicker drives me insane
[02:40] <x_link> Seems like alot of people really don't like KDE4.
[02:41] <dwidmann> x_link: after I get it set up the way I like it's not bad .... no support for a "separate x screens" sort of dual-monitor setup though, so I'm not using it until it has that ...
[02:41] <x_link> I use my laptop =)
[02:41] <x_link> dwidmann: You have any screens I can see?
[02:41] <dwidmann> x_link: what sort of screens?
[02:42] <x_link> Of your KDE4 desktop.
[02:42] <mister-tea> I tried manually configuring xorg but it would revert on boot
[02:42] <dwidmann> x_link: my laptop isn't booted atm
[02:42] <x_link> Okey
[02:43] <x_link> http://www.speedyshare.com/408216309.html
[02:43] <x_link> dwidmann: That's my KDE3.
[02:43] <x_link> Nothing special but I like it =)
[02:44] <mister-tea> x_link: it has been special to me ... the first os not to crash on me
[02:44] <dwidmann> x_link: forget what I used for a plasma panel theme ... color theme was the one I made "themeinneedofaname", think I had the wallpaper set to bluecurl (one of the defaults, that or in kdeartwork or some such), win decs were ozone without the stripes and without the blended titlebar color, widget style was the default oxygen .... yes, I just rolled all of that off the top of my head ... weird
[02:45] <Vagyna> hi there..
[02:45] <x_link> mister-tea: Yeah =)
[02:45] <Dan252562> I need some help
[02:45] <legodude> anyone having strange firefox problems?
[02:45] <x_link> dwidmann: Okey =)
[02:45] <legodude> lots of random crashes
[02:45] <x_link> dwidmann: Did you see my KDE?
[02:45] <legodude> non-reproducible behavior
[02:45] <legodude> etc?
[02:45] <dwidmann> x_link: just a sec
[02:45] <x_link> Okey.
[02:45] <x_link> It works great for me.
[02:46] <x_link> More than great.
[02:46] <x_link> No krasches, works pretty fast etc.
[02:46] <legodude> it did
[02:46] <legodude> but has been getting worse and worse
[02:46] <dwidmann> x_link: that's pretty slick, what icon set is that?
[02:46] <legodude> which is troubling
[02:46] <mister-tea> do you use wine?
[02:47] <x_link> dwidmann: I don't use any icon-theme.
[02:47] <x_link> Just handpicked some single-icons and changed it.
[02:47] <legodude> mister-tea: me?
[02:47] <mister-tea> yes
[02:47] <Dan252562> any1 please :(
[02:47] <x_link> dwidmann: Downloaded one for firefox, one for terminal etc.
[02:47] <legodude> I have wine installed, but am using native firefox
[02:47] <Dan252562> naggers
[02:47] <Dan252562> :(
[02:48] <dwidmann> !ask | Dan252562
[02:48] <mister-tea> but my f gets a littlr flakey when I use a wine program
[02:48] <dwidmann> x_link: ah, okay
[02:48] <legodude> hrm, I've not been using wine though when this happens
[02:48] <Dan252562> well, I attempted to remove perl ( apt-get remove perl ) and it removed all my packages
[02:48] <x_link> dwidmann: =)
[02:48] <mister-tea> k different problem then
[02:48] <x_link> Well, it's time for me to go.
[02:48] <Dan252562> now i can't even get to the desktop
[02:48] <x_link> 04:00 here =/
[02:48] <x_link> dwidmann: Thanks for everything!
[02:49] <Dan252562> well, I attempted to remove perl ( apt-get remove perl ) and it removed all my packages, now i can't even get to the desktop, what do i do ?
[02:49] <legodude> like now it gives me the option to restore my session, but when I click restore it pops up a blank window
[02:49] <x_link> Good night!
[02:49] <dwidmann> good night x_link
[02:49] <legodude> I also get weird "Unexpected Program Termination" errors in konq
[02:50] <mister-tea> nope mine just doens't start again and goes away
[02:50] <Dan252562> well, I attempted to remove perl ( apt-get remove perl ) and it removed all my packages, now i can't even get to the desktop, what do i do ?
[02:50] <bazhang> Dan252562, why did you remove perl
[02:51] <bazhang> Dan252562, what system are you on now
[02:51] <Dan252562> Live UBUNTU
[02:51] <Dan252562> I removed perl because i did..
[02:52] <Dan252562> zzzz
[02:53] <dwidmann> Dan252562: that wasn't very smart ... "apt-cache rdepends perl | wc -l" says 2176 ... that is A LOT of reverse dependencies. In short, that woudl cause  a lot of things to get removed if you removed it.
[02:53] <Dan252562> srry for being an annoying dick but im pretty sad
[02:53] <bazhang> Dan252562, please stop
[02:53] <dwidmann> Dan252562: I can walk you through how to get things back to normal, if you're good at following instruction
[02:54] <Dan252562> I can access these files from live cd
[02:54] <Dan252562> i guess, i'll just have to burn em ?
[02:54] <Dan252562> but how do i burn stuff on the live cd
[02:55] <bazhang> Dan252562, you dont
[02:55] <Dan252562> hmm.. i've got dualboot, is windows able to read ext3 partitions ?
[02:55] <dwidmann> Dan252562: like I said, why not just fix it?
[02:55] <Dan252562> alright
[02:55] <Dan252562> how
[02:56] <dwidmann> Dan252562: step 1 is already complete, you're in the livecd, so now for step 2 (I may take some time typing things, don't get too impatient)
[02:56] <Dan252562> k =]
[02:56] <dwidmann> Do you know which partition the root partition of your linux install is on?
[02:56] <Dan252562> nope
[02:57] <dwidmann> Dan252562: well, we'll have to find out
[02:58] <dwidmann> Dan252562: if you're on the intrepid live cd, open dolphin, it might have a list of drives you can mount (hopefully)
[02:58] <dwidmann> Dan252562: that should be the easiest way to find out which it is, I think.
[02:58] <Dan252562> hang on, im installing it
[02:59] <dwidmann> Wait, it might not even tell :\
[02:59] <dwidmann> Dan252562: installing what?
[02:59] <Dan252562> dolphin
[02:59] <Dan252562> ok installed, opened
[02:59] <Dan252562> what do i do now
[03:00] <dwidmann> Dan252562: well, I've changed my mind, it might not even tell where it's supposed to mount to :\ ... lets see about something else instead, seeing as you're in the mood to install things though, install gparted
[03:00] <Dan252562> done
[03:01] <dwidmann> Dan252562: if you run it, you should be able to get a full list of partitions on all drives, we need to find out which one is your linux install, it's probably and ext3 partition
[03:01]  * mneptok waves buh-bye
[03:02] <stdin> Dan252562: please join #ubuntu-ops for a minute
[03:04] <stdin> Dan252562: you're temporarily muted in here, for the moment
[03:06]  * mister-tea suspects a bad handle
[03:07] <condon> Can anyone tell me if it's possible to use a usb mouse plugged into on of those USB to PS/2 plugs in the PS/2 port on the pc in Kubuntu?
[03:07] <mneptok> condon: it is
[03:07] <legodude> condon: yes
[03:07] <condon> Got it plugged in,mouse is getting power (led's on) but no movement.
[03:07] <legodude> it is a ps2 mouse
[03:07] <legodude> in that case
[03:08] <condon> how do I make it work?
[03:08] <legodude> well
[03:08] <legodude> let me back up
[03:08] <legodude> did it come with the converter?
[03:08] <stdin> make sure it's plugged in when the system boots. the hardware probably won't work if you just plug it in when the system is powered on
[03:08] <condon> no, have a few of them laying arond
[03:08] <legodude> okay
[03:09] <dwidmann> condon: check /dev/input (or better, if possible, /dev/input/by-id and see if it's listed there
[03:09] <legodude> so you are probably trying to use a new USB mouse
[03:09] <legodude> right?
[03:09] <condon> yep
[03:09] <legodude> might not have any ps2 support
[03:09] <legodude> check teh docs
[03:09] <legodude> those converters do nothing
[03:09] <legodude> unless the mouse supports it
[03:09] <legodude> the mouse detects whether it is plugged into usb or ps2 and loads the appropriate firmware
[03:10] <condon> Probably doesn't support it.  only the keyboard's listed in /dev/input/by-id
[03:11] <legodude> no
[03:11] <legodude> you have to check the manufacture of the mouse
[03:11] <legodude> to know for certain
[03:11] <legodude> or if it did not come with the converter that's another indication...
[03:12] <dwidmann> condon: not all devices will show up in by-id ... if it's not there check by-path too
[03:12] <condon> should it just work if it is capable? or is there something in linux I have to configure?
[03:13] <legodude> condon: it will just work
[03:13] <legodude> after a reboot
[03:13] <condon> pci-0000 and the speakers.
[03:13] <condon> Figures.
[03:13] <condon> Anyone know anything about Virtualbox? :)
[03:14] <condon> can't get it to work w/ the USB devices so was trying to turn the usb mouse into a ps/2 mouse to get around it.
[03:16] <chrisruls00__> I am having a few problems with applications that still use the KDE3.5 style. the text in drop-down menus and text boxes are blank, but will flash what they are real quick if I click on them. I am assuming this might have something to do with widgets in these applications. The applications currently experiancing this are konversation, k3b and knetworkmanager.
[03:16] <JontheEchidna> chrisruls00__: the nvidia beta legacy drivers are to blame
[03:17] <chrisruls00__> hmm, is there any way to fix it right now?
[03:17] <JontheEchidna> turning off desktop effects or using the nv drivers can work around your problem
[03:17] <chrisruls00__> ugg, i spent a week getting the nvidia drivers working and now they cause me more problems...
[03:25] <conscience4_> hi!
[03:25] <conscience4_> i got someone trying to get in with different services and protocols and my firewall is keep in away cause i put that with firewall with blacklist and make some rules, however this thing is very limited cause i can not go to sites like youtube or google very well. my question is should i allow someone get in to see who is that person or persons and them report to pastebin or something?
[03:31] <coreymon77> conscience4_: youre new to linux arent you?
[03:33] <conscience4_> not really
[03:33] <conscience4_> but i am not good
[03:33] <coreymon77> conscience4_: they cant really do much to you
[03:35] <Rioting_pacifist> ive got a dependance problem is it possible to just install an old version of a package to work around it
[03:35] <genii-around> conscience4_: What to do: look up their ip or domain name someplace like dnsstuff.com       with whois. Then find the abuse email of the ISP for that. Then email them your logs, adjusted for GMT
[03:37] <Rioting_pacifist> nvm aptitude fix it
[03:37] <conscience4_> where do i see my logs?
[03:37] <Rioting_pacifist> . /var/log/*
[03:48] <LostBat> @v@/ anyone know how do i get SCIM install correctly so i can type japs & chinese?
[03:51] <conscience4_> what is GMT?
[03:51] <billytwowilly> greenwich mean time
[03:52] <conscience4_> thanks
[03:53] <genii> conscience4_: The reason you let them know your time as compared to GMT is so they can check logs to see who was logged in on that specific IP at that time
[03:57] <DoubleD> woo.. into KDE 3.5  it seems a lot faster than kde 4
[03:59] <mister-tea> woo hoo
[04:01] <jonny_> I am really confused. I just want to install and use kpilot on intrepid. I can't find how to instsall it (sudo apt-get install kpilot, obviously, doesn't work.) kdepim doesn't seem to contain kpilot either
[04:04] <mister-tea> jonny_: check out this link http://www.linux.com/feature/50422
[04:08] <jonny_> mister_tea: that's cool - but I can't see how to install those components - I want to sync my palm with Korganizer
[04:09] <jonny_> the only likely looking thing I can see is the opensync plugin for kde stuffs - but that isn't canonical supported :S
[04:11] <mister-tea> well I just thought you would like to know what's up with kde4
[04:12] <jonny_> mister-tea: Thanks :) Any idea how to do syncing now?
[04:13] <mister-tea> no I'm just good at google-fu
[04:15]  * b3lorix is away: Gone to Bed, ill be back
[04:26] <baudthief> Running Gutsy, one issue has been driving me absolutely nuts for the past few months. Checkboxes are BLANK after you check them. Any fixes?
[04:26] <baudthief> *Hardy
[04:28] <genii> baudthief: They're actually checked off. If you click somewhere non-active on the page the checkmark should appear
[04:28] <dwidmann> baudthief: that's odd ... I've seen that in Firefox on the occasion that I've used it on Hardy & Intrepid
[04:28] <baudthief> genii: Understood, it just makes it a little awkward when developing apps (and when other people use my machine)
[04:29] <baudthief> dwidmann: heh its annoying as hell, its system wide too, for eg ccsm checkboxes do the same thing
[04:29] <genii> baudthief: Yes, a small annoyance I know
[04:29] <genii> No fix I know of
[04:29] <baudthief> :\
[04:29] <dwidmann> genii: would an upgrade to hardy take care of it?
[04:29] <baudthief> well I'm not gonna revert to windows because of this, but still :P
[04:30] <baudthief> maybe i'll piss and whine a little more
[04:30] <jonny_> Anyone got kpilot installed in Intrepid and if so, where did you get it from? I can't find it in the repositories!
[04:30] <genii> Wait, found something on this
[04:31] <genii> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox-3.0/+bug/194624   recommends a fix which works for some, Installing gtk2-engines-qtcurve package
[04:32] <baudthief> installing..
[04:33] <baudthief> should I restart X?
[04:34] <genii> Bah didn't work for me
[04:34] <baudthief> neither
[04:34] <genii> baudthief: No
[04:34] <baudthief> Kinda weird how this issue still hasnt been resolved heh
[04:37] <baudthief> genii: fixed!
[04:38] <genii> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox-3.0/+bug/220575 has some other tactics to try
[04:38] <baudthief> after installing gtk2-engines-qtcurve, you gotta change the GTK theme to qtcurve in kcontrol
[04:38] <baudthief> now it works perfect
[04:38] <genii> Ah, OK
[04:39] <baudthief> thanks for the moral support :P
[04:40]  * genii hands out more coffees
[04:40] <baudthief> I kinda wish they stuck to "Hoary Hoar" instead of "Hardy Heron" :P
[04:41] <baudthief> It's like. What OS is that? "Windows Vista, and yours?", "Hoary Hoar"
[04:41]  * baudthief f***s off appropriately
[04:45] <genii> Well, Hoary was already a dist
[04:45] <genii> "Hoary Hedgehog"
[04:45] <metbsd> is 20G enough for kubuntu
[04:46] <genii> metbsd: Yes
[04:46] <genii> metbsd: In fact you can get by with 3Gb to install on. But not much room then for apps
[04:47] <jonny_> do any of you have kpilot in intrepid?
[04:50] <K`zan> How hard is it to change video cards from nvidia to ATI ?
[04:51] <K`zan> Just disable the drivers and shut down and install the ATI card and start up again?  Somehow I suspect it isn't going to be that simple :-/.
[04:58] <pottox> HELP!!!
[04:58] <pottox> My eth0 device just desapeared while I was fixing my wlan0
[04:59] <pottox> I got wlan0 to work but now I can't fet eth0 to work
[04:59] <pottox> sights
[04:59] <pottox> can someone give me a hand?
[05:01] <genii> pottox: Does: ifconfig                show an eth0 device?
[05:01] <LostBat> @v@/ anyone know how do i get SCIM install correctly so i can type japs & chinese?
[05:01] <pottox> nop
[05:02] <pottox> it only shows lo and wlan0
[05:02] <pottox> it was just working a couple of minuts ago
[05:02] <genii> pottox: try: sudo ifconfig eth0 up
[05:02] <pottox> then I installed b43 for the wireless and eth0 went caput
[05:03] <pottox> eth0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
[05:03] <pottox> any other idea?
[05:04] <pottox> here is my card info:
[05:04] <pottox> 02:01.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4401 100Base-T (rev 01)
[05:04] <pottox> I do have b44 loaded
[05:05] <pottox> genii please help
[05:07] <genii> pottox: echo "auto eth0" | sudo tee -a /etc/network/interfaces  && echo "iface eth0 inet dhcp" | sudo tee -a /etc/network/interfaces && sudo ifconfig eth0 up
[05:07] <genii> pottox: Report any error
[05:08] <genii> pottox: You can just copy and paste what I put above into Konsole, no need to retype it all
[05:09] <pottox> eth0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
[05:10] <pottox> there was actualy a 3 line response
[05:10] <pottox> auto eth0
[05:10] <pottox> iface eth0 inet dhcp
[05:10] <genii> Don't paste all of it here please
[05:10] <pottox> ok
[05:11] <pottox> i'm so desapointed / kubuntu 8.10
[05:11] <genii> pottox: Well, 8.10 is an intermediate release between long-term support releases. Problems are to be expected
[05:11] <pottox> it took me 2 hours just t o get bcm43xx working because none of the standard procedures were working
[05:11] <pottox> now this
[05:12] <pottox> I know, I guess i expected more
[05:12] <genii> pottox: What make is the eth0 adapter?
 02:01.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4401 100Base-T (rev 01)
[05:12] <genii> pottox: No, that is your wifi
[05:13] <pottox> that's the ethernet the eifi is bcm43xx
 02:01.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4401 100Base-T (rev 01)
[05:13] <pottox> i meant:
[05:13] <pottox> 02:02.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless LANController (rev 03)
[05:13] <pottox> that's the wifi
[05:13] <genii> pottox: No, it is wifi
[05:14] <pottox> yes, the last one i pasted, bcm43xx is wifi
[05:14] <genii> One minute for research
[05:14] <pottox> this pne here: 02:01.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4401 100Base-T (rev 01)
[05:14] <pottox> is ethernet
[05:14] <pottox> tha's the one that just disapeared
[05:15] <pottox> apreciated
[05:15] <pottox> I normally do this on my own but after so much time to get the wlan0 working i think i'm drained
[05:16] <genii> pottox: And it is supposed to use the b44 driver?
[05:16] <pottox> I believe so
[05:17] <pottox> when i try to load the diver I get:
[05:17] <genii> pottox: If you could be so kind as to put my name in any message directed my way, this will help me see it when I'm in other channells
[05:17] <pottox> ATAL: Error inserting b44 (/lib/modules/2.6.27-7-generic/kernel/drivers/net/b44.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
[05:17] <pottox> genii sure, sorry
[05:18] <pottox> genii i don't use IRC that often
[05:18] <genii> pottox: no problem. So the issue seems to be not able to load it
[05:19] <pottox> genii exactly
[05:19] <pottox> geni like I said, it was fine and after a reboot it was gone
[05:23] <klobster> ok, so I installed 8.10 64bit.  It looks awesome.  Now the question is: what are the things i should do right now , before i do anyting else?
[05:24] <nogagplz> um
[05:24] <nogagplz> ...like what?
[05:24] <genii> pottox: I would suggest to (re)install linux-ubuntu-modules      for your kernel version
[05:24] <draik> Hello all
[05:25] <draik> I changed my window manager from kwin to compiz. Now, when I get to my login, the desktop flips up and I'm left with a white screen. How do I return to kwin or at least use compiz?
[05:25] <genii> pottox: Because thats where the driver originates from
[05:26] <draik> I am currently using irssi. Not the funnest of times, but well worth learning.
[05:26] <pottox> genii what's the best way to do that? apt-get?
[05:26] <draik> How do I return to kwin?
[05:27] <genii> pottox: Likely, yes.
[05:27] <metbsd> is there kubuntu network  installation cd
[05:28] <genii> pottox: eg: sudo apt-get install linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.24-18-generic        or such (your kernel version there not mine)
[05:30] <pottox> genii:  Couldn't find package linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.27-7-generic
[05:30] <genii> pottox: Probably also running: sudo depmod -a                         wouldn't hurt after either
[05:31] <genii> pottox: use apt-cache search with keyword like modules then pipe to grep with your kernel version
[05:31] <genii> pottox: This should give you a short list of possibles
[05:32] <genii> pottox: eg:   apt-cache search modules|grep 2.6.27-7
[05:32] <genii> pottox: or:   apt-cache search modules|grep 2.6.27
[05:32] <klobster> sorry logged out.  Did anyone answer my question?
[05:32] <metbsd> is there kubuntu mini iso?
[05:32] <metbsd> i need kubuntu mini iso
[05:32] <genii> pottox: The package might not have sub-version like -7 in the name
[05:34] <metbsd> is there netinstall iso for kubuntu?
[05:34] <draik> How can I change back from compiz to kwin when I don't have a usable GUI? I have a white screen when I use CTRL+ALT+F[7-12].
[05:34] <metbsd> ????
[05:34] <genii> pottox: I will not be available soon, sleep is neccesary
[05:34] <pottox> genii: maybe this one "linux-backports-modules-2.6.27-7-generic"\
[05:34] <pottox> I understand
[05:34] <pottox> genii: thanks for the help
[05:34] <genii> pottox: Perhaps that one
[05:35] <pottox> genii: i gota go to bed to, I'll give this a shot and it will be it for today
[05:35] <pottox> thanks
[05:35] <genii> pottox: You're welcome. Best luck
[05:35] <pottox> genii: have a good night
[05:36] <metbsd> does anyone see my question?
[05:36] <_2> no
[05:36] <_2> or i mean i don't.
[05:36] <genii> I'm going /away now since this client logs for me from different locations but I'm really gone. Good night all
[05:36] <cadaverpimp> _2: I changed my GUI to be compiz instead of kwin. Is there a way of getting it switched via CLI?
[05:37] <_2> maybe someone else does metbsd
[05:38] <_2> cadaverpimp short answer   YES.   now if you are asking me HOWTO   short answer  "i have no idea"     long answer, "i have no idea, but i'm sure it can be done by manipulating files in the home dir"
[05:39] <_2> and the nick is terrable, btw
[05:39] <cadaverpimp> _2: I would not have imagined home directory.
[05:40] <cadaverpimp> Oh, long story short, I was selling skeletons a few years ago just prior to Halloween and got called "cadaverpimp"
[05:40] <_2> i see.   >:[
[05:41] <cadaverpimp> Fine...
[05:41] <enzo_> _2: Better?
[05:41] <_2> yes
[05:43] <_2> enzo_ ~/.xsession  might hold the key to your puzzle   not sure though.
[05:43] <_2> ~/.dmrc could be useful too
[05:43] <enzo_> Thank you
[05:44] <_2> welcome
[05:45] <_2> one might also google "compiz -replace" "kwin -replace"
[05:45] <_2> or is that two dashes
[05:47] <_2> enzo_ and if you are locked out of your gui until you fix that.  i might suggest sudo adduser blah     and login as blah
[05:48] <enzo_> _2: I'm not exactly locked out. I can login, but once I do, the desktop fold/flips up and I have a white screen
[05:53] <klobster> /join ##random
[05:53] <klobster> so anyone avee an answer for me?
[05:55] <_2> klobster what Q ?
[05:56] <anom01y> how do I get resolutions highter than 1280x1024 ?
[05:57] <_2> anom01y  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution
[05:57] <klobster> what do i install after installing 8.10 64bit?
[05:58] <_2> klobster probably the 32 bit    ?
[05:58] <_2> :)
[05:58] <klobster> : (
[05:58] <anom01y> thanks
[05:58] <_2> klobster i mean.  that question is vague
[05:58] <anom01y> _2: do you know the next size up from 1280x1024 ?
[05:59] <anom01y> I just bought a new screen 19" non wide screen
[05:59] <klobster> I went for 64bit because it's the end game.
[05:59] <_2> anom01y 16 12 ?
[05:59] <klobster> 2: I just want to know if there are any "have to have's"
[05:59] <anom01y> k I found them thank you
[06:00] <_2> klobster not that i know of.  but you might message the bot  /msg ubottu flash  and/or flash64
[06:00] <klobster> I knw there is a 64bit flash and java (betas)  just want to know if there is anything  am missing
[06:01] <dsmith_> in kde 3.5 I have 2 main panels and one I cannot get rid of, whats the config file for panels?
[06:01] <klobster> also, if there is anything that will break (myhttv caused a reinstall already)
[06:01] <dsmith_> .kde something
[06:01] <_2> dsmith_ the panel is called "kicker"
[06:01] <dsmith_> yea..
[06:01] <dsmith_> I have 3, one is undesired..
[06:02] <_2> right click and "delete this panel"  ?
[06:02] <dsmith_> and when I right click remove panel, it only shows top / bottom
[06:02] <dsmith_> yea tried that
[06:02] <klobster> also, I want to know if anyone can help me set up dual sound output (hdmi and onboard)
[06:02] <dsmith_> i was looking for the config file in .kde file under /home
[06:02] <_2> dsmith_ and the third (undesirable one) is left/right ?
[06:03] <dsmith_> yea
[06:03] <dsmith_> well, I can move it either way I want
[06:03] <dsmith_> but it wont show an option to remove the thing
[06:03] <dsmith_> annoying me
[06:03] <_2> dsmith_ err ummm that sounds like that old kde kicker bug  tried restarting your kde sense making the other panels ?
[06:04] <dsmith_> i did a resotr on .kde sometime ago
[06:04] <dsmith_> thats why i was thinking it was a confg issue
[06:05] <dsmith_> can you restart kde?
[06:05] <dsmith_> or rstart pc?
[06:05] <dsmith_> I know alt-ctril-backspace
[06:05] <dsmith_> restarts X
[06:05] <_2> ah yes.   well in ~/.kde/share/config/kickerrc  maybe.
[06:05] <dsmith_> let me gander
[06:06] <_2> and yes. logging out and back in will restart kde.
[06:06] <klobster> dual sound is that screwed up? : (
[06:07] <anom01y> anyone know the name of the gui app that changes the resolution ?
[06:07] <dsmith_> wow I have a few verisons of that file
[06:07] <dsmith_> heh
[06:07] <klobster> depends, are you using a proprietary driver?
[06:07] <_2> !sound | klobster if the pages here don't help, then i can't
[06:08] <klobster> ^^ anom01y
[06:08] <anom01y> klobster that doesnt help
[06:08] <klobster> 2: sound is find, it's running dual sound that i have issues with (both through the onboard and through the nvdia hdmi)
[06:09] <anom01y> I have an nvidia card
[06:09] <klobster> anom01y: are you rnning the nvidia drivers (restricted drivers?)
[06:09] <_2> having home permission of 777  causes bash to not set HOME nor read in ~/.bash_history     ;/
[06:09] <anom01y> klobster: I dont know how do I check
[06:10] <klobster> anom01y: what version of kubuntu are you running?
[06:11] <anom01y> 8.04 I believe
[06:11] <anom01y> kde 3.5.9
[06:11] <twylight> guys
[06:11] <twylight> I'm thinking of scrapping kubuntu and going back to winxp
[06:11] <twylight> because winxp is more compatible with gaming
[06:11] <klobster> k, goto K-> system-> do you see an nvidia option?
[06:11] <_2> anom01y rather than "thinking"  lsb_release -a  ;kwin --version
[06:12] <klobster> twylight:  sounds good.  have fun.
[06:12] <anom01y> 8.04.1 Hardy
[06:12] <anom01y> and there is no nvidia option in my kmenu
[06:13] <anom01y> klobster: but if I go K->system->Hardware Drivers
[06:13] <anom01y> I see Nvidia Accelerated graphics in there and it says "in use"
[06:14] <anom01y> !nvidia
[06:14] <anom01y> klobster: do I need to install anything, or am I fine ?
[06:15] <klobster> no need to install, check your nvidia driver for resolution issues
[06:15] <klobster> more in the link you brought up
[06:16] <anom01y> klobster: isn't there a GUI app that allows me to select the resolution ?
[06:17] <twylight> but I kind of feel like I'm betraying something if I go back to windows
[06:18] <_2> we kinda feel like you are trolling
[06:18] <klobster> yeah it's the nvidia program. kdesu /usr/bin/nvidia-settings
[06:18] <twylight> _2
[06:19] <klobster> twylight: you are betraying a better part of you, but so what?!?  Live for the moment...
[06:19] <klobster> 2:  thanks for the help, I see the problem now...
[06:19] <_2> twylight http://www.gnu.org
[06:20] <klobster> anom01y: incase you missed it: yeah it's the nvidia program. kdesu /usr/bin/nvidia-settings
[06:21] <anom01y> klobster: I only have /usr/bin/nvidia-xconfig
[06:21] <_2> anom01y iirc you can install the settings app
[06:22] <_2> anom01y maybe   apt-cache search nvidia
[06:22] <anom01y> yeah I see that Im installing nvidia-settings now
[06:22] <_2> klobster welcome.
[06:22] <anom01y> thank you guys
[06:22] <_2> welcome.
[06:23] <klobster> 2: thanks.  I been around for awhile...
[06:27] <anom01y> just realized I should probably reset the computer after changing the monitor
[06:27] <anom01y> :)
[06:27] <klobster> maybe, but prolly not
[06:28] <klobster> ctrl+ works wonders
[06:28] <klobster> nvm
[06:28] <_2> :)
[06:28] <_2> comming or going this time anom01y ?
[06:28] <_2> :)))
[06:29] <anom01y> just used the nvida-settings to modify xorg.conf
[06:29] <anom01y> had to restart X
[06:29] <anom01y> weird, the resolution won't change it flipped straight to "auto" (1280x1024) again
[06:30] <klobster> try ctrland "-"
[06:30] <anom01y> brb
[06:30] <klobster> sorry ctrl and "-"
[06:31] <klobster> anyone know about mythtv and how to intall?
[06:31] <_2> klobster the bot has an infonode
[06:31] <_2> !mythtv
[06:35] <_2> past my bed time.   later folks.    Shalom Aleichem.
[06:49] <dlevans> hey guys
[06:49] <dlevans> i have a question before i download and install the new kubuntu
[06:50] <dlevans> 1. would i be able to use linux MCE? 2. i dont have an old school monitor i use HDMI to DVI and have my pc hooked up to my tv will it auto detect this?
[07:02] <sedi-d> sup everyone
[07:12] <Ayabara> how can I change the default size of konsole in kde4?
[07:16] <xp-killer> konqueror keep going bad when im watching videos in streamin like youtube etc.....the video erea goes grey.how can i fix this?
[07:17] <xp-killer> stdin:
[07:17] <sedi-d> yo
[07:17] <sedi-d> im way 2 new to this crap
[07:18] <SeeWhy> Need help
[07:18] <xp-killer> :s
[07:18] <SeeWhy> I cant see my desktop
[07:18] <xp-killer> SeeWhy: lol
[07:18] <sedi-d> lol
[07:18] <sedi-d> hey can anyone let me know how im suppost to get msn to run on this
[07:18] <sedi-d> ?
[07:18] <sedi-d> ii click on it after i download it
[07:18] <sedi-d> and nothing
[07:18] <sedi-d> it gets me to open it with a new file or something
[07:19] <sedi-d> is it like a zip
[07:19] <SeeWhy> I can't see my desktop although the desktop folder still in my /home/myname with my Icons
[07:19] <sedi-d> i just switched from xp today:S
[07:19] <xp-killer> sedi-d: try to install wine then install msn,or u have amsn,kmess, or kopete
[07:19] <sedi-d> wine?
[07:19] <SeeWhy> hmm
[07:19] <sedi-d> whats whine?
[07:19] <sedi-d> ill google it thanks though
[07:20] <xp-killer> sedi-d: wine lets u instell stuff like .exe
[07:20] <SeeWhy> can you tell me why ?
[07:20] <SeeWhy> I think my younger brother did resize my desktop
[07:20] <sedi-d> ok ok
[07:20] <SeeWhy> sedi-d
[07:20] <sedi-d> i see what the problem is thanks alot man
[07:20] <sedi-d> its a windows based program
[07:20] <SeeWhy> you might be consider to search in software management
[07:21] <sedi-d> whats the best webbrowser for this im using firefox
[07:21] <SeeWhy> If I right there is a MSN clone in linux
[07:21] <sedi-d> yaa>??
[07:21] <xp-killer> SeeWhy: kopete
[07:21] <sedi-d> im prety much lost
[07:21] <SeeWhy> named amsn
[07:21] <sedi-d> ohh i wanted to ask someone
[07:21] <SeeWhy> use amsn
[07:22] <sedi-d> i only partitioned half of my hard drive and formated it
[07:22] <xp-killer> u have also kmess
[07:22] <SeeWhy> google amsn .rpm and download it then install
[07:22] <SeeWhy> :)
[07:22] <xp-killer> no
[07:22] <sedi-d> is there a way to do it in ubuntu or would i have to pop in the cd and partition the other half?
[07:22] <xp-killer> just install it from addept
[07:22] <xp-killer> amsn
[07:22] <sedi-d> i found amsn but i couldnt get the thing 2 work lol
[07:22] <sedi-d> addept
[07:22] <sedi-d> im completely new to linux just got it tonight:S
[07:22] <sedi-d> lol
[07:23] <xp-killer> sedi-d: u on kubuntu?
[07:23] <sedi-d> ubuntu
[07:23] <sedi-d> ya
[07:23] <sedi-d> is it crap??
[07:23] <xp-killer> ubuntu or kubuntu?
[07:24] <sedi-d> ubuntu
[07:24] <sedi-d> im pretty sure
[07:24] <SeeWhy> hmm
[07:24] <SeeWhy> Someone have solution for me ?
[07:24] <xp-killer> sedi-d: is your linux blue or mostly orange?
[07:24] <xp-killer> SeeWhy: u still cant see your desktop?
[07:25] <SeeWhy> blue = kubuntu
[07:25] <SeeWhy> orange = ubuntu
[07:25] <SeeWhy> yep
[07:25] <sedi-d> orange
[07:25] <SeeWhy> I can see it
[07:25] <SeeWhy> :(
[07:25] <SeeWhy> but my desktop folder in /home/xxx/Desktop still have icons that I'm using
[07:26] <xp-killer> ok then go to the chanel #ubuntu sedi-d i dont like ubuntu its ugly lol
[07:26] <SeeWhy> I think my younger broker resized it into very small
[07:26] <SeeWhy> :(
[07:26] <xp-killer> see then resize it
[07:27] <SeeWhy> oh my god
[07:27] <sedi-d> lol
[07:27] <SeeWhy> it get back
[07:27] <sedi-d> i honestly dont no the damn different
[07:27] <SeeWhy> :D
[07:27] <SeeWhy> super small >.<
[07:27] <sedi-d> difference
[07:27] <sedi-d> how do i get there
[07:27] <SeeWhy> join ubuntu room
[07:27] <SeeWhy> #ubuntu
[07:28] <SeeWhy> xp-killer
[07:28] <SeeWhy> I think ubuntu isn't better than mandriva
[07:28] <sedi-d> now im in both
[07:28] <sedi-d> what
[07:28] <sedi-d> !
[07:28] <sedi-d> lol
[07:28] <sedi-d> thanks
[07:28] <sedi-d> is it that bad
[07:29] <SeeWhy> ?
[07:29] <xp-killer> SeeWhy: well i dont know i havent use mandriva since 2002 lol  so i have no idea how it is now
[07:29] <SeeWhy> I'm using both :D
[07:30] <SeeWhy> it's extreme now
[07:30] <SeeWhy> with kde4
[07:30] <xp-killer> SeeWhy: mandriva good?is it simple to use?
[07:30] <SeeWhy> simplier than Ubuntu and Kubuntu
[07:30] <SeeWhy> better hardware detection
[07:31] <SeeWhy> wizard guide to do things
[07:32] <SeeWhy> I really like it :D
[07:32] <SeeWhy> using mandriva one 2009
[07:33] <SeeWhy> test it
[07:33] <SeeWhy> I think you will like it too
[07:38] <EvaLuaTe> hello
[07:39] <EvaLuaTe> if i have a 64-bit processor, will there be any difference if i use the 32 or the 64 bit version of kubuntu?
[07:39] <sedi-d> idconfig deferred processing now taking place whats this mean?
[07:40] <sedi-d> and its stuck at that place?
[07:41] <sedi-d> ahha
[07:41] <sedi-d> i got lucky
[07:41] <sedi-d> man that took for ever
[07:42] <sedi-d> thanks guys:D
[07:43] <sedi-d> #ubuntu
[07:46] <SeeWhy> oh my god
[07:46] <SeeWhy> you shoud use / j o i n without space first
[07:51] <EvaLuaTe> umm, i can't seem to find the Opera Browser Package in adept, is there any reason for this?
[08:08] <noaXess> how can i change the order in kmenu's favorites?
[08:44] <Stanley_> hello ... on my desktop i want to install the luna widget, but it is missing in the list. on another intrepid installation there are more widgets, how come?
[09:18] <bcs_> hello
[09:18] <NightDragon> hello
[09:18] <bcs_> may i ask u
[09:18] <bcs_> about kubuntu
[09:44] <bentob0x> what's the command to recursively list all files that aren't of a given type (like not .txt or not .php for instance)?
[09:50] <Stanley_> bentob0x: maybe with find in bash ?
[09:51] <Stanley_> people coming and going ...
[09:55] <JackWinter> a question, just installed 8.10 and don't really understand adept anymore.  if i search for kernel i get nothing relevant, same with jack, and other apps
[09:57] <waldgeist_> what happens if you search for kernel using (sudo) aptitude search ... on console?
[09:59] <JackWinter> waldgeist_: it does find packages
[10:00] <JackWinter> i don't know if there is a view i must find, or maybe there is an su adept mode or something...
[10:01] <JackWinter> suppose i could use apt-get instead, but i like the overview that adept gives me..
[10:01] <waldgeist_> have you marked that strange icons below the search-field?
[10:02] <waldgeist_> adept -> search
[10:02] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[10:03] <waldgeist_> there you can click on "show awailable (not installed) packages", and so on (blue square)
[10:06] <ActionParsnip> or you can apt-cache search
[10:07] <JackWinter> waldgeist_: not sure which icon you are talking about: here is a screenshot of what i'm looking at: http://stashbox.org/300354/screenshot-1
[10:15] <JackWinter> waldgeist_: sorry, this probably works better :) http://stashbox.org/300366/screenshot-1.png
[10:17] <JackWinter> hmm, just got loggen in again, i'll repaste: http://stashbox.org/300366/screenshot-1.png
[10:19] <waldgeist_> interesting, my browse-window looks completely different :)
[10:20] <JackWinter> cool, this is a virgin install from last night.  hmm wonder what i should do next then...
[10:20] <waldgeist_> but it seems to work now, right?
[10:21] <waldgeist_> install filelight, deborphan, power up your vim ;)
[10:21] <JackWinter> nope, i don't see all packages.  i started adept from computer-adept installer
[10:21] <waldgeist_> but aptitude shows the packages? so your /etc/apt/sources.list is ok?
[10:23] <JackWinter> mystery solved, from system-package manager i get something completely different :)
[10:23] <waldgeist_> :)
[10:23] <JackWinter> the joys of a new kde :)
[10:24] <waldgeist_> yes.. i also looked up first for kcontrol and didn't find it
[10:24] <waldgeist_> but ctrl+alt+k for example is very useful for switching keyboard-layouts
[10:25] <waldgeist_> or ctrl-f9/f10.. could also be mapped on other keys
[10:29] <wstephenson> hey folks.
[10:30] <wstephenson> finex just triaged a bunch of kubuntu networking bugs to my knetworkmanager component on bugs.kde.org, but i think they are kubuntu-specific.
[10:30] <wstephenson> anyone want to help me figure them out?
[10:30] <JackWinter> waldgeist_: ok gotta go thanks for the help
[10:30] <wstephenson> eg https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=150916
[10:31] <wstephenson> "I am using the save profile option in the network configuration wizard. I works fine exept for the default route."
[10:31] <wstephenson> this is with feisty. did that have NetworkManager 0.6 or no NetworkManager at all?
[10:34] <wstephenson> cmon, allegedly highly-active kubuntu community, help a maintainer out here.
[10:35] <ActionParsnip> wstephenson: add the router manually ?
[10:35] <wstephenson> ActionParsnip: first i need to know whether Feisty actually had NM and what version.
[10:36] <wstephenson> probably the reporter is talking about a kubuntu specific network configuration tool, not knetworkmanager (that i am responsible for)
[10:37] <ActionParsnip> wstephenson: oic
[10:37] <ActionParsnip> wstephenson: i always edit the interfaces file manually, way easier imho
[10:38] <ActionParsnip> wstephenson: its usually silent in here at this time, id try a bit later
[10:39] <wstephenson> ActionParsnip: ok
[10:40]  * ActionParsnip is from UK
[10:41] <wstephenson> jolly good
[10:42]  * wstephenson just paid EUR6.99 for 80 PG tips, oh the pain of being an expat
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> yikes
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> pg is nice tho
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> It's the tayyy-ayyste
[10:47] <vvizard> I screwed up and deleted ~/.config/Trolltech* After that the text in the toolbar and contextmenu's of Qt Designer isn't showing up anymore. Could anyone please make an archieve of ~/.config/Trolltech.conf and ~/.config/Trolltech/ and post it on a webserver or something? :P
[10:48] <njt> hi
[10:49] <njt> running livecd.  had a power failure, and now there is corruption on my hdd.  fsck didn't seem to fix it.   how might i fix this?
[10:49] <njt> (feisty)
[10:55] <ActionParsnip> vvizard: http://pastebin.com/f5cbc53e5
[10:56] <ActionParsnip> vvizard: thats Trolltech.conf
[10:56] <ActionParsnip> i don't have ~/.config/Trolltech
[10:58] <vvizard> ActionParsnip: Thanks
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> vvizard: np bro
[11:00] <ActionParsnip> vvizard: youo'll need to change line 187
[11:00] <ActionParsnip> vvizard: search for /home/andy ;)
[11:01] <vvizard> It fixed the problem. Thanks a bunch
[11:01] <ActionParsnip> vvizard: np man, dont go rm'ing files til you know they are ok
[11:02] <ActionParsnip> vvizard: mv them to rename them instead, THEN delete
[11:03] <vvizard> ActionParsnip: ;)
[11:03] <ActionParsnip> do it with EVERYTHING
[11:03] <ActionParsnip> rm is last port of call
[11:11] <woelfz> hello there
[11:11] <woelfz> I need some help, after upgrading to 8.10 my KDE taskbar does not appear
[11:22] <etfb> Trying to use KRec, purely to entertain my daughters who've been annoying their parents by using the Test Call feature of Skype to distraction.  But KRec doesn't work, even though areccord/aplay and Skype work perfectly.  Any hints?
[11:24] <Stanley_> hello, on my intrepid desktop i want to install the luna-widget, but i cannot find it in the list of available widgets. maybe i have to add an source. any idea?
[11:26] <xyz_> how to convert bin/toc files to iso?
[11:33] <ActionParsnip1> xyz_: http://www.linuxtent.com/?p=82
[11:35] <ActionParsnip1> hi jussi01
[11:35] <xyz_> ActionParsnip1, thats for bin/cue not bin/toc?
[11:36] <ActionParsnip1> xyz_: ive never met a toc file, but the bin file is the actual data itself, im guessing the toc file is similar to a cue file
[11:36] <ActionParsnip1> k3b should be able to use them to write an iso file using its image writing
[11:37] <Stanley_> trying kdeplasma-addons
[11:38] <TheFuzzball> BTRFS looks niiice :)
[11:39] <ActionParsnip1> TheFuzzball: what is it?
[11:39] <TheFuzzball> New filesystem that will replace EXT4
[11:39] <TheFuzzball> Still under development
[11:41] <ActionParsnip1> ext3 is fine for me :)
[11:42] <TheFuzzball> :p
[11:42] <TheFuzzball> I'm more of an enthusiast I'm afraid :)
[11:43] <ActionParsnip1> i work with computers all day so I dont really care as long as it works. hence ubuntu
[11:43] <TheFuzzball> Too true
[12:12] <danub> hey all
[12:13] <danub> anyone ever heard about all the "system tray" icons turning into a computer icon?
[12:13] <danub> all of my icons have changed to an icon of a computer and a plug... like the battery status, network manager, kopete...all of them
[12:14] <danub> is there a way to reload something that will display the correct icons?
[12:16] <danub> ok, i will take that as a no
[12:19] <E_mE> can i burn a CD ISO off onto a DVD and then install?
[12:22] <TheFuzzball> E_mE: you can in Nero, I don't know about K3b
[12:22] <TheFuzzball> But it's a waste of space
[12:22] <E_mE> TheFuzzball: we have no CDs here
[12:22] <E_mE> so its the only option :(
[12:23] <E_mE> will it be bootable?
[12:23] <TheFuzzball> Yup, I have done it before a few times
[12:23] <TheFuzzball> Been in the same situation
[12:23] <E_mE> thank you
[12:24] <TheFuzzball> np
[12:24] <TheFuzzball> You have Nero?
[12:24] <E_mE> no, gonna have to do it on a mac
[12:24] <TheFuzzball> Hmm
[12:24] <E_mE> as this PC doesnt have cdrw drive
[12:24] <TheFuzzball> But it does have a DVD +RW??
[12:25] <courtjesterg> swear this firefox is sea monkey made to look like firefox
[12:25] <E_mE> TheFuzzball: nope
[12:25] <E_mE> got multipul machines here
[12:25] <TheFuzzball> Ah, cool
[12:25] <courtjesterg> i don't rem the preferences being in edit on firefox but i know sea monkey has there on edit
[12:26] <courtjesterg> what happen to the pref being int he tools section
[12:26] <courtjesterg> or maybe that is the big diffferrence between the windows and linux version
[12:39] <etfb> I want to experiment with speech recognition.  Is there anything out there that will let me do that?
[12:58] <ActionParsnip1> yo yo yo
[13:04] <shangyong> dpkg: error processing w32codecs_20071007-0.1_i386.deb (--install):
[13:04] <shangyong>  corrupted filesystem tarfile - corrupted package archive
[13:04] <shangyong> dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)
[13:04] <shangyong> Errors were encountered while processing:
[13:04] <shangyong>  w32codecs_20071007-0.1_i386.deb
[13:04] <shangyong> can't install w32codes
[13:04] <TheFuzzball> shangyong: sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -y install w32codecs
[13:06] <shangyong> thank you
[13:06] <ActionParsnip1> TheFuzzball: was just gonna type that
[13:06] <TheFuzzball> :)
[13:06] <ActionParsnip1> TheFuzzball: -y isnt really advised
[13:07] <ActionParsnip1> as it will also UNINSTALLstuff automatically to meet deps
[13:07] <ActionParsnip1> if necessary
[13:07] <TheFuzzball> I doubt that would occur for w32codecs :)
[13:07] <ActionParsnip1> its not worth risking dude
[13:07] <ActionParsnip1> specially with other folks systems
[13:07] <TheFuzzball> Fair enough
[13:08] <TheFuzzball> But you have to wonder why they have the option if it is so bad :)
[13:08] <ActionParsnip1> it can be good but if theres some conflict, apt will uninstall whats in the way automatically rather than showing a warning
[13:10] <TheFuzzball> It isn't like it's going to run autoremove though. I find -y very useful, especially if you are going somewhere.
[13:11] <waylandbill> Is there a way to tell the window manager that I want an application to minimize to the system tray that doesn't have that capability built in?
[13:12] <TheFuzzball> No
[13:12] <TheFuzzball> AFAIK
[13:12] <JontheEchidna> ksystraycmd yourapphere
[13:12] <ActionParsnip1> waylandbill: sudo apt-get install alltray
[13:13] <ActionParsnip1> waylandbill: then run alltray <command> &
[13:13] <ActionParsnip1> waylandbill: its awesome with thunderbird ;)
[13:13] <ActionParsnip1> waylandbill: alltray thunderbird &
[13:16] <Dekans> there's an option in the menu editor to display in tray any application
[13:16] <Dekans> it's a checkbox for every app
[13:17] <Dekans> and there is kdocker too
[13:17] <waylandbill> Dekans: does that remove the taskbar entry as well as include the system tray icon?
[13:17] <waylandbill> as I want to minimize to tray, not just display in tray
[13:17] <Dekans> waylandbill: don't remember, but it's quick to verify ;p
[13:19] <waylandbill> Dekans: tried with a Konsole. Didn't put the konsole in the tray at all. :)
[13:20] <Dekans> it's seems buggy
[13:20] <ActionParsnip1> waylandbill: run: alltray konsole in a launcher
[13:20] <Dekans> tried with system settings
[13:20] <Dekans> but it put firefox in the systray
[13:20] <waylandbill> ActionParsnip1: yeah... trying that.
[13:20] <ActionParsnip1> waylandbill: or if you use yakuake: alltray konsole &
[13:20] <ActionParsnip1> so you get control back
[13:20]  * ActionParsnip1 loves yakuake
[13:21] <TheFuzzball> ActionParsnip1: Is Yakuake ported to KDE4 yet?
[13:21] <waylandbill> I know the shell and what & does. :)
[13:21] <ActionParsnip1> TheFuzzball: yeah man
[13:21] <ActionParsnip1> !info yakuake
[13:21] <TheFuzzball> cool
[13:21] <ActionParsnip1> oh you know its riiiight :D
[13:22] <TheFuzzball> Lp
[13:22] <waylandbill> hmm. I added a new system tray to a brand new panel and now the alltray icons are showing up
[13:22] <TheFuzzball> :p*
[13:23] <waylandbill> they don't show up in the first one though... maybe it's too full?
[13:23] <ActionParsnip1> waylandbill: alltray is sweet
[13:23] <ActionParsnip1> waylandbill: try ps -ef | grep <app name>
[13:24] <adcts> hi, need help booting livecd
[13:24] <ActionParsnip1> waylandbill: is it running?
[13:24] <mike> greets, everyone
[13:24] <waylandbill> I know it's running. I saw it in the second system tray I just created.
[13:24] <ActionParsnip1> adcts: you need to change your bios to boot cd first, then hard drive
[13:24] <adcts> done that
[13:24] <ActionParsnip1> waylandbill: ive never trayed more than 1 thing. i'd check the man page
[13:24] <Guest38601> anyone have their webcam working in kopete? i'm having trouble with it on my yahoo account
[13:24] <waylandbill> It's like the first tray is too full and won't display anymore.
[13:24] <ActionParsnip1> adcts: then the cd will boot
[13:24] <adcts> squashfs error
[13:25] <ActionParsnip1> adcts: did you md5 check the cd?
[13:25] <ActionParsnip1> adcts: as well as check the cd for defects once the initial boot screen shows?
[13:25] <adcts> yes
[13:25] <adcts> its fine
[13:25] <ActionParsnip1> ok, cool
[13:25] <adcts>  the cd is fine, other distros livecds boot fine
[13:26] <ActionParsnip1> adcts: ok try turning off some of our motherboard hardware
[13:26] <adcts> it boots on other machines as well
[13:26] <waylandbill> is there a way to move a panel I created that appeared at the top of the screen?
[13:26] <ActionParsnip1> you could also try using noacpi / nodma just until you get installed
[13:26] <adcts> ok
[13:26] <adcts> will do
[13:26] <ActionParsnip1> !bootoptions | adcts
[13:26] <waylandbill> I want to move it the panel from the top of the screen to the right hand side instead, but can't really figure out a way to do that.
[13:26] <adcts> ok
[13:27] <ActionParsnip1> waylandbill: a panel at the top?
[13:27] <adcts> i'll try that and return tomorrow
[13:27] <adcts> i'm at work right now
[13:27] <adcts> is this fine?
[13:28] <waylandbill> ActionParsnip1: a second panel. By default it is attached to the top of the screen
[13:28] <ActionParsnip1> adcts: we'll be here
[13:28] <ActionParsnip1> waylandbill: in kde?
[13:28] <adcts> thanks
[13:28] <waylandbill> ActionParsnip1: right click the desktop and select "Add a panel" and it'll be obvious
[13:28] <ActionParsnip1> waylandbill: i use fluxbox
[13:29] <ActionParsnip1> waylandbill: my right click shows me the equiv of your kmenu
[13:29] <waylandbill> ActionParsnip1: well.. then you can't do that then. :)
[13:29] <ActionParsnip1> waylandbill: nope
[13:30] <waylandbill> I assumed I didn't need to specify the default kubuntu DE here. Guess I was wrong. :-D
[13:30] <ActionParsnip1> waylandbill: was joking
[13:30] <ActionParsnip1> but i do use fluxbox
[13:31] <waylandbill> can resize the panel and do all sorts of stuff to it, but can't relocated it from the top of the screen. :-/
[13:32] <sluxor> how do I disable adept updates on intrepid?
[13:33] <sluxor> I just wana use apt-get
[13:33] <sluxor> commandline
[13:34]  * Dr_willis just got here... Huh?
[13:34] <ActionParsnip1> sluxor: just let it exist. When it shows up, run the command line (thats exactly what I do)
[13:34] <sluxor> No! I disabled it on my other systems running KDE
[13:34] <ActionParsnip1> sluxor: once its run, the thing will vanish
[13:34] <sluxor> I know what I want
[13:34] <sluxor> :P
[13:34] <sluxor> I disabled it before
[13:34] <ActionParsnip1> sluxor: i never said yuo didnt
[13:34] <sluxor> but i cant find it in the menu atm
[13:35] <waylandbill> sluxor: I use the command line all the time as well and just let the notifier tell me when it's time to update
[13:35] <ActionParsnip1> sluxor: next time it shows up, right click it and there may be an exit option, it may ask you if it is to ever show up again
[13:35] <waylandbill> usually updating is a good thing.. except that one time when an update stopped the dm from starting. :)
[13:36] <sluxor> yes well id rather choose when i update
[13:36] <sluxor> kthanx
[13:36] <sluxor> and not have annoying notifications
[13:36] <sluxor> what were they thinking? thats the reason i ran away from windows
[13:36] <sluxor> "you have countless updates.. and theres always more"
[13:36] <sluxor> lol
[13:36] <sluxor> il do it once a month when i feel like it or in a cronjob
[13:37] <ActionParsnip1> sluxor: that update icon will not do anything until you say so. It just sits there
[13:38] <sluxor> still annoying.. i dont need it or want it grr
[13:38] <ActionParsnip1> sluxor: rc  adept-notifier                             2.1.3ubuntu25.1                             system tray notifier of available system upd
[13:38] <ActionParsnip1> sluxor: you could just remove adept, and use pat
[13:38] <ActionParsnip1> *apt
[13:38] <sluxor> ah yes
[13:38] <sluxor> i figured
[13:38] <sluxor> apt-get remove adept
[13:38] <sluxor> :D
[13:39] <sluxor> and it removes the update notifier too
[13:39] <sluxor> hurray
[13:39] <ActionParsnip1> sluxor: id sudo apt-get autoremove too
[13:39] <ActionParsnip1> gets rid or orphaned deps
[13:39] <sluxor> yeh thats ok none were there.. its all good
[13:39] <ActionParsnip1> sweet
[13:40] <ActionParsnip1> its weird they give like 4 ways to install debs
[13:40] <sluxor> i have to say apt has really improved since my old debian box
[13:40] <sluxor> :P
[13:40] <sluxor> but I still dont want graphical notifications!
[13:40] <sluxor> :P
[13:41] <ActionParsnip1> apt has always been king in my eyes
[13:41] <ActionParsnip1> synaptic takes too loooong
[13:41] <sluxor> well gentoo was looking better to me untill they started shoving untested software in their repositories..
[13:41] <sluxor> very very unstable ebuilds
[13:42] <ActionParsnip1> sluxor: not had an issue with my gentoo box
[13:42] <ActionParsnip1> hes still chugging away
[13:43] <sluxor> ActionParsnip1, how often do you install new software on it?
[13:43] <sluxor> or compile
[13:43] <sluxor> :)
[13:43] <ActionParsnip1> sluxor: not very at all
[13:43] <ActionParsnip1> its a file server
[13:43] <sluxor> exactly my point
[13:43] <ActionParsnip1> its not broke, im not fixing it
[13:44] <sluxor> I know but from the perspective of repositories.. apt > portage
[13:45] <ActionParsnip1> i dont mind portage, takes a while to get the box going but its up and fine
[13:45] <ActionParsnip1> its sshd, samba and cron
[13:45] <sluxor> have you ever used samba as a domain controller?
[13:46] <sluxor> I wana try that sometime
[13:46] <sluxor> should be fun
[13:46] <sluxor> and less network resource hogging
[13:47] <ActionParsnip1> ive 4 systems, domain would be kinda overkill imho
[13:48] <sluxor> l8rz everyone thanx for your help
[13:48] <ActionParsnip1> peace
[13:50] <waylandbill> my peer networking is simply sshd. Good enough for 3 computers. :)
[13:51] <burn_> is it posible to use ubuntu hardi 8.04 and not to update it to interpid 8.10?
[13:51] <Pici> burn_: Sure
[13:52] <ActionParsnip1> burn_: hardy is supported for a LONG time
[13:52] <waylandbill> ActionParsnip1: I didn't think hardy was LTS though.
[13:52] <burn_> 5 years
[13:52] <waylandbill> at least not kubuntu I thought.
[13:53] <burn_> what is LTS?
[13:53] <ActionParsnip1> waylandbill: its the same deal as ubuntu, just different DE
[13:53] <ActionParsnip1> lts == long term support
[13:53] <burn_> somwething like long term serivce
[13:53] <burn_> thnx
[13:53] <ActionParsnip1> same sort of deal
[13:53] <ActionParsnip1> long term something
[13:54] <waylandbill> ActionParsnip1: I thought with kde 4 though that ubuntu 8.04 was going to be LTS but kubuntu wasn't.
[13:54] <waylandbill> (at least this was before 8.10 was released the developers were saying)
[13:54] <ActionParsnip1> waylandbill: well its much the same under the hood, same repos
[13:54] <ActionParsnip1> waylandbill: id check it out fully if yuo have concerns
[13:55] <burn_> hardy better work on my comp and drivers work great, ati luhcneh catalyst 8.11 but not working on 8.10 and in jocher or hardware tool when click activate for drivers nothing happends
[13:55] <waylandbill> ActionParsnip1: I know that, but if noone packages new 3.x updates there could be security updates that don't get in there with it not being LTS.
[13:55] <ActionParsnip1> waylandbill: i get your point
[13:56] <waylandbill> I have an IDE CDrom that 8.10 doesn't seem to find as well. The ide-scsi module is mia. The people in #ubuntu say it is loaded by default, but not if it aint there. :)
[13:57] <ActionParsnip1> waylandbill: if its in fstab and fstab points to the right device and the mountpoint exists you should have a wineer
[13:57] <waylandbill> ActionParsnip1: there isn't a device if there isn't a module to load it.
[13:57] <waylandbill>  /dev/sr0 is gone after going to 8.10.
[13:58] <TheFuzzball> I hate sr0
[13:58] <TheFuzzball> It is evil
[13:58] <waylandbill> I'd be happy if it was even there. :-)
[13:59] <ActionParsnip1> waylandbill: http://paste.ubuntu.com/74769/
[13:59] <ActionParsnip1> waylandbill: http://pastebin.com/f4e5768f8
[14:00] <ActionParsnip1> may help you
[14:01] <ActionParsnip1> i use PATA for all drives
[14:02] <Dr_willis> cd drive should be scd0 i thought
[14:02] <ActionParsnip1> works over here :)
[14:02] <waylandbill> ActionParsnip1: cdrom module doesn't show up in lsmod
[14:03] <Dr_willis>  cdrom                  47784  1 sr_mod
[14:03] <waylandbill> yeah. looks like it is scd0. but I recall it being sr0 on my machine with trouble
[14:03] <Dr_willis> This may be an sata cdrom.. i think it is.. :)
[14:04] <ActionParsnip1> no, all PATA, i have SATA controllers but no SATA drives of any sort
[14:04] <waylandbill> Dr_willis: it's definately a PATA drive in the machine with SATA and PATA buses.
[14:05] <Dr_willis> as far as ive seen.. all ide drives now use the sd## type naming scheme.  or scd##
[14:05] <ActionParsnip1> Dr_willis: if you put a cd in a cd drive and run fdisk -l will it show up?
[14:05] <Dr_willis> -l /dev/cdrom1
[14:05] <Dr_willis> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 2008-11-19 06:40 /dev/cdrom1 -> scd0
[14:05] <Dr_willis> I cant recall fdisk -l ever showing cd-drives
[14:05] <ActionParsnip1> never tried it and was curious
[14:06] <Dr_willis> i recall trying for partiion /dev/hdc once by mistake. :)
[14:06] <ActionParsnip1> hahaha
[14:06] <Dr_willis>  fdisk -l /dev/cdrom   --> nothing
[14:06] <Dr_willis> :)
[14:06] <waylandbill> Dr_willis: I can't say. I just know in 8.04 in k3b, it called it sr0, maybe a k3b thing? I don't know. I just know that it got loaded by ide-scsi before, the new kernel doesn't have that module on this system and a good cd-burner now sits idle.
[14:06] <ActionParsnip1> bah
[14:07] <ActionParsnip1> waylandbill: try: file /dev/sr0
[14:07] <Dr_willis> in some cases i have seen optical drives called sr## however as of 8.10 they all seem tobe scd## on my 3 machines
[14:07] <waylandbill> no such file. for both sr0 and scd0
[14:08] <Dr_willis> i would imagine they have switched over to the scd## stuff.. so perhaps k3b is lookin gin the wrong place now. I recall there being a k3b-setup tool/menuitem
[14:08] <waylandbill> nah. I know it is some kernel issue, but no idea the solution.
[14:08] <Dr_willis> dmesg | grep cd  and look for any error emssages I guess for step 1
[14:10] <ActionParsnip1> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 2008-11-20 10:58 /dev/cdrom -> scd0
[14:10] <ActionParsnip1> is what i gots here
[14:11] <Dr_willis>  lsmod | pastebinit
[14:11] <Dr_willis> http://pastebin.com/f1872684c
[14:11] <Dr_willis> for an example for you to check out....
[14:11] <waylandbill> Dr_willis: if I disgrard the usb controlller, the grep is empty.
[14:13] <waylandbill> I do see looking at the full dmesg that it did load the pata_atiixp which is the correct module for that.
[14:15] <noaXess> hi all
[14:15] <noaXess> in kubuntu 8.04 i had a PDF printer to create pdf's from each document, app.. now in kubuntu 8.10, kde4 thats gone.. how can i recreate it?
[14:17] <ActionParsnip1> !cupspdf
[14:18] <ActionParsnip1> oh i'm GOOOOD
[14:19] <noaXess> ActionParsnip1: hi :)
[14:19] <noaXess> i got it too ;)
[14:19] <noaXess> ActionParsnip1: jep yor ar near GO_OD ;)
[14:19] <ActionParsnip1> haha
[14:19] <TheTetsu> hi
[14:19] <klobster> hello! how do I access the sound on the hdmi portion of my nvidia card?
[14:22] <ActionParsnip1> klobster: didnt know nvidia cards did sound
[14:23] <_sam_> yup. nvidia has done sound and ethernet/lan chipsets for years..
[14:23] <klobster> yeah, through the HDMI port?  I have it running to my flat screen
[14:25] <ActionParsnip1> _sam_: via hdmi port though. I know they make a range of hardwares :P
[14:27] <klobster> Thats how HDMI works, its DVI + Sound
[14:27] <Dr_willis> at least how its supposed to work
[14:27] <Dr_willis> I dident realize nvidia had pc cards that did both yet...
[14:28] <klobster> Dr_willis: o.0 I know...
[14:28] <Dr_willis> With our luck theres proberly some lame DRM that  makes it not work for linux. :P
[14:28] <ActionParsnip1> not heard of that, sound like a disaster to me, sound on a graphics card
[14:29] <klobster> at least since the 8500's (my card)
[14:29] <klobster> Hrmm
[14:29] <BluesKaj> 'morning folks
[14:30] <noaXess> does anybody know, how to resort kmenu's favorite sorting?
[14:30] <noaXess> order?
[14:30] <Dr_willis> but thats the whole point of hdmi on your players and tv.. one (expensive) cable to connect the player to the tv.. :) pc's are an afterthouight heh.
[14:31] <klobster> idk, cable was only $3 for me (monoprice.com).  Love it for the convenience, hate it for the DRM
[14:31] <Dr_willis> a HDMI cable for $3 ? egads.. in the stores around here they are $30 at least..
[14:33] <ActionParsnip1> id rather use soundcard to external speakers
[14:34]  * Dr_willis sticks a hdmi cable in his nose..
[14:35] <Dr_willis> Digital to the brain!
[14:36] <Dr_willis> Hmm..
[14:36] <Dr_willis> Anyone else notice that when using compiz and firefox.. i often get firefox hanging/greying out..  regullary.. but with no compiz.. i rarely see it happen..
[14:37] <BluesKaj> heh, I've seen hdmi's for over 100 bucks on some webstores
[14:37] <Dr_willis> BluesKaj,  saw a dvi-Hdmi just now for  $130
[14:37] <Dr_willis> http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/category/category_slc.asp?CatId=79
[14:38] <klobster> i'm never gonna pay more than $10 for what amounts to a reconfigured USB cable
[14:38] <Dr_willis> I tend to pick up cables when i find them on clearance at the stores...
[14:39] <BluesKaj> Dr_willis, those 10 meter hdmi's run abut $100
[14:39] <Dr_willis> Grabbed a bunch of  firewire cables a few yrs back for $1 each. :) still got them boxed up
[14:42] <klobster> http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10240&cs_id=1024008&p_id=3993&seq=1&format=2
[14:44] <klobster> oh btw, I installed the 64bit version of 8.10, is there anyhting I should keep an eye on, or any config quirks I need to worry about?
[14:44] <legodude> flash
[14:44] <legodude> install flash beta
[14:44] <legodude> 64bit
[14:45] <klobster> oh yeah, i forgot about that!
[14:46] <klobster> do I need to uninstall the flash already on here?  how did flash install, anyway is it packaged with ubuntufox?
[14:48] <klobster> what about repositories, anything to worry about WRT 64 vs 32?
[14:51] <winterelf> hi, i need help, i have a new screen 22" and i plugged it to my laptop with RJ connection (the pins) i need to know how to cinfugure it so it will work properly.. what should i do? (i have intel x3100 card)
[14:51] <ghostcube> hi anyone has a fix for the workspace switcher and compiz ?
[14:51] <ghostcube> kde 4.1.3
[14:54] <winterelf> ?
[14:54] <winterelf> nobody knows?
[14:57] <genii-around> winterelf: I just arrived. Please state again your problem / question
[14:57] <Dr_willis> !hi
[14:58] <genii-around> Hi Dr_willis :)
[14:58]  * Dr_willis tries to trick people into talking to the bot.. once again fails..
[14:59] <winterelf> hi, i need help, i have a new screen 22" and i plugged it to my laptop with RJ connection (the pins) i need to know how to cinfugure it so it will work properly.. what should i do? (i have intel x3100 card)
[14:59] <winterelf> geii-around :
[15:00] <Dr_willis> rj conection? You mean the normal 'vga' conector?
[15:01] <Dr_willis> I have no experiecne with Intel video.. so perhaps someone else can help
[15:01] <genii-around> winterelf: Check first the laptop. Mine for instance has a FN-F4 combination which cycles through laptop screen only/external screen only/ both on cloned/ both on independent    and so on
[15:02] <Dr_willis> and some times those keys even work! :)
[15:02] <winterelf> genii-around : are u saying that theres a special function made by my laptop company just waiting to be used?
[15:03] <Dr_willis> all 4 of my Laptops have such keys
[15:03] <christ> Hi
[15:03] <genii-around> winterelf: Yes
[15:03] <winterelf> genii-around : i have a button saying crt/lcd is that it?
[15:03] <genii-around> winterelf: That would probably be where to start, yes
[15:04] <winterelf> ok , i'll try, if i'm not here in 2 secounds that means there was a *KABOOOM*
[15:04] <christ> Good Morning, i have a doubt, The first time you start 8.10 a partition manager shows, letting you specify wich partition should be mounted in some special place, how can i access to it again?
[15:05] <winterelf> ok, i'm here , nothing happend :/
[15:05] <Dr_willis> christ,  Hmm..ive never  seen that..
[15:05] <Dr_willis> could be because i set the mountpoints during the install for my vista drives
[15:05] <christ> Dr_willis: is a graphical interface for the fstab
[15:06] <Dr_willis> could also be because i use ubuntu, and not kubuntu for my installs
[15:06] <christ> :O maybe
[15:06] <winterelf> genii-around : nothing happend
[15:07] <Dr_willis> I got a spiffy bootable thumb drive i use for all my installs. :) much faster then cd
[15:07] <legodude> Dr_willis: how did you make it?
[15:07] <legodude> unetbootin?
[15:07] <christ> yeah, so it was a Graphical interface that shows all my partitions and allow me to specify mount X partition in X folder, but i cant found it again :/
[15:07] <Dr_willis> legodude,   i was usingunetbootin.. then theres that new feature in 8.10 that makes a better one. :)
[15:08] <legodude> !
[15:08] <legodude> where is it?
[15:08] <legodude> I didn't have any success with unetbootin
[15:08] <bazhang> usb-creator
[15:08] <legodude> ooh nice
[15:08] <Dr_willis> the usb-creator let ya make a persistant save setup.. and made the thumbdrive faster then unetbootin did...
[15:08] <bazhang> system administration create a usb startup disk
[15:09] <Dr_willis> but unetbootin works with other disrtos and in windows.. so.. :) each is handy
[15:09] <legodude> good
[15:09]  * legodude hates cds
[15:10] <nathanael> is there a way to enable the ZUI in kubuntu?
[15:10] <Dr_willis> ZUI?
[15:10] <bazhang> nathanael, whats that
[15:10] <legodude> sounds cool
[15:10] <Dr_willis> a GUI you canuse in your sleep? :)
[15:10] <legodude> whatever it is
[15:10] <Dr_willis> ZZZzzz...
[15:11] <nathanael> Zooming User Interface - one of the main components of plasma, which can be found in every kde4 except for in the kubuntu one
[15:11] <nathanael> Dr_willis : lol
[15:12]  * legodude doesn't really understand zui
[15:12] <nathanael> http://techbase.kde.org/Projects/Plasma/ZUI
[15:13] <nathanael> logodude: do you know what it is though?
[15:13] <legodude> okay, I guess plasma desktop persists across virtual desktops
[15:13] <nathanael> sort of
[15:13] <legodude> so this solves that?
[15:13] <Pici> nathanael: It looks like thats just a mockup, i.e: it doesn't actually exist yet.
[15:14] <legodude> it does
[15:14] <nathanael> it does, even in KDE 4.1
[15:14] <legodude> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhODrJkoidA
[15:14] <nathanael> does anyone know why it isnt in kubuntu
[15:14]  * Pici shrugs, doesn't use KDE anyway.
[15:14] <legodude> still doesn't make much sense to me
[15:14] <legodude> but hey
[15:14] <nathanael> legodude: I've never really used it, but i wanted to see if it was useful
[15:14] <legodude> ah
[15:15] <nathanael> anyway, wheres the point of the cashew, if there isnt a ZUI
[15:15] <legodude> kids these days with their newfangled UIs
[15:15] <legodude> give me back CDE
[15:16] <nathanael> CDE? is it even still being developed? wasn't KDE made to solve CDEs problems?
[15:17] <legodude> I think it stopped being developed years ago?
[15:17] <legodude> 10yrs?
[15:17] <nathanael> lol
[15:17] <nathanael> was it any good?
[15:17] <legodude> I never saw any changes in the six years or so I used it
[15:18] <legodude> other than slight menu reshuffling
[15:18] <nathanael> is that good or bad?
[15:18] <legodude> meh
[15:18] <legodude> neither
[15:18] <legodude> it just is
[15:18] <nathanael> so, anyway, is there a way to enable it in kubuntu?
[15:18] <legodude> no idea
[15:19] <nathanael> if not, why the heck didnt the ubuntu developers give us the choice whether we wanted it or not?
[15:19] <nathanael> probably to make the code smaller or something
[15:21] <legodude> wow, I can't believe they are still developing VMS
[15:23] <JontheEchidna> nathanael: nope
[15:23] <mark_csi> hi all - can anyone give me some points on how to improve the performance of kubuntu?  I've a centrino pro, 3GB ram laptop and it's running poorly but with no errors
[15:23] <mark_csi> especially firefox
[15:23] <yakuzi> i've a problem with the menu editor, if i place a separator and arrange the application links, and save the configuration, it looks good in the menu edior, but  it doesn't change a thing in the menu itself (i'm talking about the K-menu)
[15:41] <bentob0x> anybody has a good tutorial or link to setup a cisco VPN client on kubuntu?
[15:42] <bentob0x> I'm already digging a bit on Google but i'm not too satisfied so far
[15:48] <JontheEchidna> nathanael: kdebase-plasma is a binary package of kdebase that includes only the folderview applet
[15:48] <JontheEchidna> plasma itself is in the kdebase-workspace source package
[15:49] <nathanael> but it downloaded 5MB
[15:49] <JontheEchidna> yes, kdebase-workspace is more like 40 MB
[15:49] <nathanael> and it looks like kdebase was installed
[15:49] <JontheEchidna> kdebase is different than kdebase-workspace
[15:49] <nathanael> Get:2 http://sd.archive.ubuntu.com intrepid/main kdebase 4:4.1.2-0ubuntu4 (tar)[4964kB]
[15:50] <nathanael> is one of the outputs I get
[15:50] <JontheEchidna> you want to apt-get source kdebase-workspace
[15:50] <nathanael> "yes, kdebase-workspace is more like 40 MB" wow, how many lines of code is that?
[15:51] <JontheEchidna> a lot of it is graphics and stuff
[15:51] <nathanael> ok, I'll do that
[15:51] <nathanael> oh
[15:52] <nathanael> I'll be back in 54min47s, according to apt, as I have aproximately 20kB/s download speed here =)
[15:52] <JontheEchidna> hehe
[15:52] <nathanael> so if you're still on irc then, I'll ping you
[15:52]  * JontheEchidna lurks here all the time
[15:53] <nathanael> ok, i'll find you here later then
[15:53] <Ktron> I just installed Kubuntu 8.10, and I'm struggling with getting my network up and runnings-- the systray app doesn't seem to work, and I'm completely missing a /etc/resolv.conf
[15:53] <Dr_willis> network manager creates the /etc/resolov.conf file on the fly it seems
[15:53] <JontheEchidna> nathanael: oh, first what version of KDE do you currently have installed?
[15:55] <nathanael> I have Qt: 4.4.3
[15:55] <nathanael> KDE: 4.1.3 (KDE 4.1.3)
[15:55] <nathanael> kde4-config: 1.0
[15:55] <nathanael> installled, and I'll soon have kde-nightly as well, but that might take a while, as I'll download it after I've done this
[15:55] <JontheEchidna> ooh
[15:55] <JontheEchidna> cancel that download
[15:56] <sigma> how do i uninstall openoffice in one command?
[15:57] <Ktron> Dr_willis, well, networkmanager doesn't seem to work
[15:57] <sigma> got oo3 runs awesome, alot faster than oo2, dont want oo2 to clog the system anymore though
[15:57] <JontheEchidna> nathanael: you want the 4.1.3 sources, not 4.1.2. Download the three files at the top of the page from here: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase-workspace/4:4.1.3-0ubuntu1~intrepid1
[15:59] <thomas____> hi
[16:00] <nathanael> ok thx
[16:00] <thomas____> was ist
[16:00] <nathanael> !de
[16:00] <thomas____> ja
[16:01] <Ktron> I hope knetworkmanager isn't broken broken
[16:01] <thomas____> was kan man reden
[16:05] <fabio> ubunto br como faço pra entrar?
[16:06] <bazhang> type /join #ubuntu-br fabio
[16:06] <fabio> thanks friend
[16:07] <bazhang> no prob :)
[16:13] <mini-man> halp! upgraded to kde-nightly and now my cursors have gone poof, managed to get into systemsettings and try to change cursortheme, but no luck
[16:14] <ghostcube> hi folks is there a way to set the kde4 panel into opacity like on 3.5 ?
[16:18] <rockprincess> hello! does anyone know how i can reset my master boot record (MBR) of my hard drive?
[16:20] <Riddell> rockprincess: sudo kcmshell4 kgrubeditor
[16:20] <Riddell> infact, that shouldn't need sudo
[16:20] <rockprincess> Riddell: Thanks, Jonathan! :)
[16:23] <paolo> salve
[16:23] <legodude> anyone know how to reverse the mouse buttons from the command line?
[16:24] <DaSkreech> You use the mouse buttons in the command line?
[16:24] <DaSkreech> !it
[16:24] <legodude> no
[16:24] <legodude> but there is a bug
[16:25] <legodude> where buttons are reverse coming out of suspend
[16:25] <legodude> so I want to script them to unreverse
[16:25] <legodude> and
[16:25] <legodude> as an aside
[16:25] <legodude> gpm is awesome
[16:28] <loicmarteau> Riddell: Hey ! Do you think that would be a great idea to help new dev coming in kde development my providing a meta package who install all the dev libraries needed by the kde project ?
[16:29] <legodude> doesn't that already exist?
[16:29] <DaSkreech> Yeah
[16:29] <legodude> kde-devel?
[16:29] <rockprincess> Riddel: my current problem is, that I have Kubuntu on one hard drive, and Windows XP on another hard drive, but since the XP hard drive is my main hard drive, which i usually boot. I get a GRUB error, if I remove the kubuntu hard drive from my machine, so whenever I want to boot the win xp hard drive, i need to have the kubuntu hard drive in my tower, running all the time, as well. Is there a way to fix this? I thought this
[16:29] <rockprincess> was something to do with the MBR, but having just checked out your advice, I don't see how to fix the MBR for the win xp hard drive....but maybe I am just blind.
[16:29] <Riddell> apt-get install kde-devel  or apt-get build-dep kdebase
[16:30] <Riddell> rockprincess: two hard disks?  don't you need to tell your bios which disk to boot off?
[16:36] <rockprincess> Riddell: I did that, I just double checked the bios. The first booting device is infact the win xp hard disk. So whenever I remove the Kubuntu hard drive and want to boot the win xp hard drive, i get the following Error: Grub loading, please wait....Error 25
[16:41] <psicoloko> alguem sabe como arrumar o "abrir com" do firefox???
[16:41] <DaSkreech> !br
[16:41] <psicoloko> thanks
[16:42] <DaSkreech> rockprincess: I'm guessing that /boot is on the kubuntu drive ?
[16:42] <bhaskark> Hi, I want install KDE 4.1.3, if I enable backports, will it cause any problems when upgrading to a newer version of kubuntu (After the release of new distribution)?
[16:42] <DaSkreech> bhaskark: Unlikely
[16:42] <rockprincess> DaSkreech: it is indeed!
[16:43] <DaSkreech> backports are disabled before upgrade if you follow the instructions and at worst you will get the same version of KDE as you had before. more liekly you will be upgraded to a newere version (same sequenceas if you were pulling it from backports)
[16:43] <DaSkreech> rockprincess: Yeah that might be the issue. Grub is in /boot
[16:44] <rockprincess> DaSkreech: and what has it got to do with a completely different and independent windows xp hard drive? hasn't it got its own MBR?
[16:47] <DaSkreech> rockprincess: Not if Grub is there. MBR is an Immortal
[16:47] <DaSkreech> There can be only one
[16:47] <rockprincess> DaSkreech: I just found out, that this can be solved with the Microsoft Install CD, loading fixmbr and fixboot i think.....
[16:48] <rockprincess> DaSkreech: I'm giving this a go now I think....
[16:48] <TekkieFreak> Heh, I just screwed my MBR on my mac...resintalling right now.
[16:48] <DaSkreech> rockprincess: Yeah that replaces the MBR with the MS MBR
[16:48] <Fade> the mac doesn't use an MBR iirc
[16:48] <DaSkreech> that means you can't get back to Kubuntu if you put it in
[16:48] <DaSkreech> It doesn't
[16:49] <Fade> MBR is a DOS holdover.
[16:49] <TekkieFreak> Yeah, well I just screwed up the guid then. :) picky picky.
[16:49] <TekkieFreak> :)
[16:49] <rockprincess> DaSkreech: really? so I will have to have both hard drives running all the time?
[16:49] <rockprincess> that's just silly, if you ask me....
[16:49] <DaSkreech> rockprincess: No
[16:49] <psicoloko> help-me please, before download, my firefox show "open with"
[16:49] <DaSkreech> Youjust won't have an option to go to Kubuntu with the MS option
[16:50] <DaSkreech> psicoloko: What file?
[16:50] <psicoloko> all file
[16:50] <DaSkreech> rockprincess: If you put /boot on the same drive as the MBR then you have solved all the issues
[16:50] <rockprincess> DaSkreech: Sorry, I'm thick, I don't understand it....what option if I got with MS fixmbr....
[16:50] <DaSkreech> psicoloko: cancel and click again.
[16:50] <DaSkreech> I don't know it does that to me sometimes
[16:50] <rockprincess> ah
[16:50] <TekkieFreak> psicoloko: just use adept or synaptic.
[16:51] <psicoloko> adept
[16:51] <BigMiike> ???? I installed the KDE desktop ontop of Ubuntu now the cube wont work how do I engage it????
[16:51] <itsatrick> Hi, I've got a really annoying problem in KMail.  I have two accounts; when I want to send from the second account, no matter how I send, it keeps getting sent from the "default" outgoing server.  Please help.
[16:52] <DaSkreech> TekkieFreak: What?
[16:52] <DaSkreech> BigMiike: Cube will be there in KDE proper in KDE 4.2
[16:52] <DaSkreech> BigMiike: re-enable it with the command compiz --replace
[16:53] <BigMiike> i am using 3.5.8 KDE
[16:53] <BigMiike> with gutsy
[16:53] <psicoloko> dont resolve cancel and click again
[16:53] <DaSkreech> BigMiike: compiz --replace then
[16:53] <BigMiike> ok ty
[16:53] <DaSkreech> psicoloko: right click and save as
[16:54] <psicoloko> ok,,,
[16:54] <BigMiike> will it still work with the gnome desktop then?
[16:54] <DaSkreech> BigMiike: Yes. It's just your compositing manager. That command turns it on
[16:54] <BigMiike> ok thanks a lot
[16:54] <psicoloko> My problem is list of programs to open with!
[16:55] <DaSkreech> psicoloko: Firefox doesn't provide that. You must know which program you want
[16:55] <DaSkreech> When you choose one then Firefox adds it to a list
[16:56] <psicoloko> for example, open pdf file, dont show okular or other program in open with!
[16:56] <DaSkreech> okular is /usr/bin/okular
[16:57] <TekkieFreak> oh sorry I thought he was trying to install firefox.
[16:58] <psicoloko> which the file that contains the list of association to automate this?
[16:59] <psicoloko> other firefox versions existed that list!
[16:59] <DaSkreech> psicoloko: Hold on
[17:00] <BigMiike> well the whole thing locked up lol still no cube running
[17:01] <Ktron> alright, knetworkmanager/kde seem incapable of networking; knetworkmanager just seems completely broken, and I have to manually add in a default route after every boot (and I have only one active NIC)
[17:01] <Ktron> this is ridiculous
[17:03] <Dr_willis> Theres been issues with the network manager stuff in the past..  I recall there was some 'other' thing running that goofed up my routes  a year or so back..
[17:03] <TekkieFreak> ktron...just use nm-applet and close out knetwork manager
[17:03] <Dr_willis> I forget how/why/where
[17:03] <DaSkreech> psicoloko: http://www.terminaldigit.com/2008/08/08/get-firefox-to-honor-kde-file-associations/
[17:05] <Ktron> TekkieFreak, install 31 gnome packages and use gnome's app because kde's doesn't work?
[17:06] <TekkieFreak> ktron....my wi-fi works great.  Ktron...uh...well I guess I am running kde on top of the regular Ubuntu install.
[17:07] <TekkieFreak> I always install the Ubuntu CD and then add the kde packages through synaptic.  Is that wrong?
[17:07] <Ktron> TekkieFreak, I'm not using wifi, I'm just trying to get my regular static addressing at work to stay configured and working
[17:07] <Ktron> TekkieFreak, no, but I don't know if I'd call it kubuntu
[17:07] <Ktron> TekkieFreak, do you install kubuntu-desktop, or just KDE?
[17:08] <Dr_willis> TekkieFreak,  thats how i do it.
[17:08] <TekkieFreak> Ktron....kubuntu-desktop
[17:08] <Dr_willis> i install kubuntu-desktop  on top of ubuntu
[17:09] <Ktron> So, no wonder the kubuntu disc itself doesn't work :P
[17:09] <Dr_willis> see if networking works under gnome?
[17:10] <TekkieFreak> Ktron, unfortunately, I've had very little luck downloading the kubuntu CD and getting it to work properly.
[17:10] <Ktron> Dr_willis, I had xubuntu 8.10 installed just before I reinstalled with kubuntu, and it was all working fine (and it uses the nm-applet from gnome)
[17:10] <TekkieFreak> I always run on a laptop though.
[17:10] <Dr_willis> the more i try to use kde4 - the more i find myself using gnome....
[17:10] <Dr_willis> :(
[17:11] <TekkieFreak> Dr. Willis....they are working on that...I installed kde3.
[17:11] <Ktron> Dr_willis, which is exactly why every time I try to switch to KDE for a while to check things out and take advantage of their new stuff, I don't make it more than a few hours
[17:11] <TekkieFreak> There's a whole huge discussion on the forums over it.  A guy was running a kde 3.5 repository that worked under intrepid.
[17:11] <TekkieFreak> He took it down now though.
[17:12] <noaXess> fo smb4k is there another tool?
[17:12] <Dr_willis> noaXess,  used to be  a few similer..  i was using the fusesmb tool - but it has issues also...
[17:12] <Dr_willis> perhaps google for smb4k alternatives
[17:12] <noaXess> Dr_willis: is there a gui for the fusesmb tool?
[17:13] <Dr_willis> http://sourceforge.net/projects/gnomba/
[17:13] <Dr_willis> noaXess,  No. theres no need for a gui.. of course fusesmb dosent work very well for most people now in the latest releases...
[17:14] <Dr_willis> smb4k browses/scans and mounts shares..  fusedmb sort of does a similer task but auto-browese/mounts  the whole network
[17:14] <natschil> JontheEchidna: ping
[17:15] <JontheEchidna> pong
[17:15] <noaXess> Dr_willis: wow.. and fusesmb will be controlled over console.. i think
[17:15] <Dr_willis> not much to controll. :)
[17:15] <Dr_willis> fusesmb Network
[17:15] <natschil> I changed my name from nathanael to natschil by the way, if you remember me
[17:15] <Dr_willis> whole windows network showsup on Network.
[17:15] <Dr_willis> :)
[17:15] <Dr_willis> :)
[17:16] <JontheEchidna> natschil: dpkg-source -x pathtokdebaseworkspace-dsc
[17:16] <natschil> btw, is there a way to change your default name on konversation
[17:16] <Dr_willis> In the Konversation settings theres someway :)
[17:17] <noaXess> Dr_willis: and all the usernames/password i need for diffrent networks?
[17:17] <noaXess> Dr_willis: or is the network then in dolphin? and i can put the right user/pass on connect..
[17:18] <noaXess> ok.. will try it..
[17:18] <noaXess> see ya later..
[17:19] <Dr_willis> fusesmb has a config for that
[17:20] <TekkieFreak> Does anyone know how to get boxee to work on a 64-bit ubuntu install?
[17:22] <natschil> ok, did that
[17:25] <natschil> JontheEchidna: will it work if I just delete the kubuntu_14_no_zoom.diff file
[17:25] <lucax> hey all, i need to know what drivers is xorg using, how do i do that?
[17:25] <JontheEchidna> natschil: remove kubuntu_14_no_zoom.diff from the series file too
[17:25] <JontheEchidna> then run debuild -us -uc
[17:26] <natschil> ok
[17:28] <sigma> whats up with kcron? i install it with sudo apt-get kcron and then i type kcron at the command line and it says command not found?
[17:31] <ubuntoil> Hi, I'm not sure this is the right place to ask this but I'll give it a shot. I would like to publish a document (resume) on the web and make a public, permanent link. Does anyone knows a way to do that ??
[17:34] <sigma> kcron hasnt been built properly guys
[17:34] <sigma> it doesnt have a executable:(
[17:38] <JontheEchidna> sigma: it's a system settings module
[17:38] <DaSkreech> sigma: It's in the system settings
[17:38] <DaSkreech> It messed me up too :)
[17:40] <sigma> where about in system settings? installed it and my system settings looks the same
[17:41] <sigma> DaSkreech: do i need to restart kde for it to appear?
[17:42] <DaSkreech> sigma: no It's in advanced I think
[17:42] <sigma> lol task scheduler
[17:43] <sigma> is it safe to run sudo systemsettings if i want to setup a system task?
[17:44] <TekkieFreak> anyone know anything about osX? I'm trying to restore my system and looks like I'm hosed.
[17:47] <sigma> whats the code to shutdown kde properly from the command line?
[17:49] <deamoon> who uses msn here?
[17:50] <deamoon> could u tell me can u login to msn cos im not
[17:50] <sigma> people still use msn:)
[17:52] <Copelia> !fr
[17:52] <thomas____> hi
[17:52] <thomas____> wie geht
[17:53] <thomas____> euch
[17:54] <deamoon> help me plz y i cant logint to msn but status says is all ok there but i geting error connecting to server any ideas ?
[17:55] <LeeJunFan> deamoon: I'm online with MSN.
[17:55] <deamoon> what software u use?
[17:55] <lucax> hey people, one litle question... i was using xserver-xorg-intel and i want to use xserver-xorg-i810 i installed i810 and did sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg-i810 and restarted x, is that enough for changin the drivers?
[17:55] <LeeJunFan> deamoon: kopete, with kde4
[17:58] <TekkieFreak> whew...I think the mac is coming back. :) Thank goodness since all my files are on it at the moment.
[17:58] <TekkieFreak> I'm switching over to Ubuntu.
[18:00] <TekkieFreak> Well only 7 hours remaining.  hrm.
[18:00] <TekkieFreak> Guess I have time for lunch then today. :)
[18:01] <tara_> hi mates
[18:01] <TekkieFreak> Hi tara.
[18:01] <tara_> how are you tekkie?
[18:01] <tara_> i'm from italy
[18:01] <TekkieFreak> I'm good.
[18:01] <TekkieFreak> I'm in the US.
[18:01] <tara_> nice
[18:02] <TekkieFreak> Italy sounds nice right now...much warmer than here I'm sure.
[18:02] <TekkieFreak> I'm in Minnesota.
[18:02] <tara_> the power of kubuntu (frankie goes to linux)
[18:02] <tara_> lol
[18:02] <TekkieFreak> :)
[18:02] <tara_> with our nice guy
[18:02] <tara_> mr. silvio berlusconi
[18:03] <TekkieFreak> I don't know who that is.  I'd love to be a world traveler...but so far have only been to Canada. :)
[18:04] <tara_> :)
[18:04] <tara_> i need help with the drivers of my webcam
[18:04] <tara_> it doesn't work
[18:04] <tara_> can you help me?
[18:04] <TekkieFreak> What kind of webcam?
[18:04] <TekkieFreak> Is it a laptop with a built-in?
[18:04] <tara_> a philips
[18:04] <tara_> no
[18:04] <tara_> desktop
[18:05] <TekkieFreak> I'm kind of new to Ubuntu.  I'm switching over from a Mac.
[18:05] <tara_> philips spc 710 nc
[18:05] <tara_> oh
[18:05] <vallic> hi all, help me please, i cannot install krusader
[18:05] <tara_> strange
[18:05] <tara_> :P
[18:05] <tara_> i will buy a mac for music
[18:05] <TekkieFreak> Do you have anything like HAL installed?  So you can just look for drivers?
[18:05] <tara_> till now i used win
[18:05] <tara_> i have an electro band
[18:06] <TekkieFreak> Strange to switch from a Mac to ubuntu?
[18:06] <TekkieFreak> Well...I will probably just keep the mac around to load music on my ipod.
[18:06] <vallic> can anybody help me install krusader, please
[18:07] <TekkieFreak> Oh you are in a band?
[18:07] <TekkieFreak> I'm afraid I don't know what krusader is...did you try sudo apt-get install krusader?
[18:07] <vallic> yes ive tried
[18:08] <vallic> ie Tomorro
[18:08] <TekkieFreak> oh maybe you don't have the correct repositories set up.
[18:08] <vallic> i think this is the prob
[18:08] <vallic> how do i update, please
[18:08] <no0tic> hi!
[18:09] <wad> What is up with my "apt-get upgrade"? I get this: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/h/hplip/hplip-data_2.7.7.dfsg.1-0ubuntu5.1_all.deb  Size mismatch
[18:09] <no0tic> is there a way to install kde3.5 in parallel to kde4 on intrepid?
[18:09] <wad> Is it just me, or is there some other problem?
[18:09] <TekkieFreak> There is a wiki on krusader here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krusader
[18:10] <vallic> thx, i try
[18:10] <Dedi> wuah my kopete lost msn support ?!?
[18:11] <TekkieFreak> I'm not seeing which repositories you need...I wonder if it's not included in the latest install.
[18:12] <TekkieFreak> Yeah krusader shows up in adept for me.
[18:12] <vallic> how do i set up repository, please
[18:12] <TekkieFreak> Do you have the third-party repositories checked?
[18:13] <TekkieFreak> go to you menu and choose system: software sources
[18:15] <TekkieFreak> It has a nice gui for managing your software sources.
 r u there
[18:16] <TekkieFreak> I have to get going for now, and I'm not sure which software sources you need to set up.
[18:17] <TekkieFreak> But if you check the "universe" one....and then update your package list...I think it will show up.
[18:18] <TekkieFreak> Hope that helps.
[18:18] <TekkieFreak> bye for now...back later.
[18:21] <oscar> Hola a todos
[18:22] <burn_> drivers not working, when i clik to activate drivers in jocker [hardware tool] nothing happends
[18:22] <DaSkreech> !es
[18:23] <burn_> drivers not working, when i clik to activate drivers in jocker [hardware tool] nothing happends
[18:23] <oscar> Sorry Daskreech, hi everybody
[18:24] <DaSkreech> Hi
[18:24] <DaSkreech> burn_: Which drivers?
[18:24] <burn_> aitradeon
[18:24] <burn_> ati radeon
[18:25] <burn_> they lunchen new drivers for xorg 7.4 ubuntu interpid 8.10
[18:27] <burn_> ?
[18:28] <oscar> bye
[18:29] <sigma_> whats with the system tray icons turning white after a while? never did that in hardy
[18:30] <lucax> sigma, bug... its supposed to be fixed on 4.2
[18:31] <burn_> drivers not working, when i clik to activate drivers in jocker [hardware tool] nothing happends
[18:32] <sigma_> burn get them from the repo
[18:32] <sigma_> i never use that hardware tool. its dodgy, easier to install the package
[18:33] <burn_> on the repo is ubuntu developed propreatry drivers not worked, i install them and nothing happends
[18:33] <burn_> on the repo is ubuntu developed, ati radeon propreatry drivers not worked, i install them and nothing happends
[18:33] <sigma_> but all in all this kde is alot faster and less buggy than the one from hardy
[18:33] <sigma_> wat card burn?
[18:35] <burn_> ati radeon 3650
[18:37] <sigma_> how old is it?
[18:37] <sigma_> sounds really old
[18:38] <sigma_> the fglrx driver dropped support for the older models
[18:38] <sigma_> so ul have to use the opensource ati driver if thats the case
[18:38] <burn_> but only for 2d, 3d is not working on fglrx ubuntu
[18:39] <burn_> i download drivers from ati home page for this graphic card
[18:39] <burn_> ati catalyst 8.11 is for ubuntu inteprid 8.10
[18:39] <burn_> i install he drivers and evrything
[18:39] <burn_> restart the comp and there is no driverst, ati catalyst cen not be runed saying there is no drivers
[18:41] <snyderios> does anybody knows if there is a german channel for kubuntu?
[18:41] <JontheEchidna> !de
[18:42] <snyderios> thx
[18:43] <JontheEchidna> you're welcome
[18:44] <rockprincess> !at
[18:44] <rockprincess> pfffft
[18:44] <rockprincess> how can I teach ubottu?
[18:45] <burn_> !teach ubottu :D
[18:46] <rockprincess> !teach ubottu: Österreichischsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-at
[18:47] <DaSkreech> rockprincess: /msg ubotu newthing is "stuff you should say"
[18:47] <rockprincess> hahahahah
[18:47] <rockprincess> ahh cheers DaSkreech
[18:47] <DaSkreech> sigma_: I assume you mean the KDE4 from hardy?
[18:47] <DaSkreech> what's at ?
[18:48] <rockprincess> DaSkreech, at's for austria :D
[18:48] <toto1> Hi all, how can i install mp3 support in amarok2
[18:48] <toto1> ?
[18:49] <rockprincess> !at
[18:49] <rockprincess> pfffft
[18:49] <DaSkreech> rockprincess: Is there a #ubuntu-at ?
[18:49] <rockprincess> yep
[18:49] <snyderios> toto1: u have to install the codecs from the medibuntu sources
[18:49] <sigma_> yeah
[18:51] <toto1> snyderios: which codecs exacly
[18:51] <toto1> I added the libxine1-ffmpeg
[18:52] <untiled> i have kde4, can i ask here?
[18:53] <pvandewyngaerde> dont ask to ask, just ask
[18:55] <untiled> ok, today i bought new display, previous was 4:3 (ctr) and this is 16:9 (lcd), how can i configure my pc to see that it's a 16:9?
[18:55] <metbsd> how do i update everything?
[18:56] <DaSkreech> metbsd: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[18:56] <metbsd> can't even find console
[18:56] <pvandewyngaerde> alt  f2     konsole
[18:56] <metbsd> first day
[18:56] <phoenixz> I printed a document yesterday, and halfway during printing I pulled the network cable. and then shutdown the computer. Now that I rebooted, I keep having 2 processes called "socket" running as user lp which both take some 99% CPU, When I kill -9 then (kill normal wont do anythihg) they return a few seconds later. I think this is related to the print action (user lp?) how can I fix this?!
[18:57] <natschil> JontheEchidna: ping
[18:57] <JontheEchidna> natschil: pong
[18:57] <natschil> sorry for asking you all these questions all the time, but I got some errors with debuild
[18:58] <DaSkreech> metbsd: Sorry then :) Do you want a GUI way ?
[18:58] <natschil> Patch kubuntu_53_pythonoids.diff does not remove cleanly (refresh it or enforcewith -f)
[18:58] <metbsd> it's ok, already doing it
[18:58] <natschil> make: *** obj-i486-linux-gnu: No such file or directory.  Stop.
[18:58] <metbsd> this feels like debian though
[18:59] <natschil> I did apt-get build-dep kdebase-workspace, and no packages were installed.
[18:59] <DaSkreech> metbsd: It is
[18:59] <JontheEchidna> natschil: hmmmmm
[18:59] <metbsd> does it have diff version? stable unstable?
[19:00] <JontheEchidna> natschil: I would delete the folder and re-dpkg-source -x it
[19:00] <JontheEchidna> then remove the patch and the entry from series
[19:00] <JontheEchidna> and re-do it
[19:00] <JontheEchidna> because it seems like something went wrong
[19:01] <natschil> ok, Ill try that.
[19:02] <natschil> I might not do it today though, as compiling takes a lot of time and im gmt +2 here
[19:03] <natschil> thanks for all the help though, it was really  helpful
[19:03] <natschil> =)
[19:03] <DaSkreech> metbsd: Yes
[19:03] <metbsd> i'm not able to access windows share
[19:03] <JontheEchidna> natschil: you're welcome
[19:04] <metbsd> how do i check my kubuntu version?
[19:04] <Pici> lsb_release -a
[19:04] <metbsd> i have ubuntu 8.10 intrepid, is it latest?
[19:04] <DaSkreech> metbsd: For stable yes
[19:05] <metbsd> whats unstable
[19:06] <DaSkreech> 9.04
[19:06] <beta-guy> how do i run .pl files? I just downloaded vmware to get some experience compiling kernels safely, vut I don't know how to install it, but I'm thinking vmware-install.pl is a good place to start...
[19:06] <DaSkreech> Umm
[19:06] <DaSkreech> !vmware
[19:07] <DaSkreech> beta-guy: ^^^
[19:07] <beta-guy> thanks
[19:07] <beta-guy> ubottu know a little of everything doesn't it? :p
[19:08] <beta-guy> Error: I said it, signifying I knew you were a bot...
[19:09] <noaXess> why does firefox on kubuntu show some websites with big font sizes?
[19:09] <phoenixz> I printed a document yesterday, and halfway during printing I pulled the network cable. and then shutdown the computer. Now that I rebooted, I keep having 2 processes called "socket" running as user lp which both take some 99% CPU, When I kill -9 then (kill normal wont do anythihg) they return a few seconds later. I think this is related to the print action (user lp?) how can I fix this?!
[19:13] <luca__> ciao
[19:14] <afeijo> hi folks
[19:14] <afeijo> I just installed kubuntu 8.04 on my notebook
[19:14] <afeijo> how can I install a .deb file? what do I need to apt-get?
[19:15] <tara_> mmmmmm dunno
[19:15] <Kalidarn> dpkg -i?
[19:15] <vonkleist> afeijo, do you have that .deb file already ?
[19:15] <Kalidarn> i think there's a user interface ;)
[19:15] <Pici> Double click on the file?
[19:15] <Kalidarn> Pici, or that ;)
[19:15] <luca__> i got a problem with
[19:16] <afeijo> vonkleist: aye
[19:16] <metbsd> deb file is debian,
[19:16] <Kalidarn> yes but ubuntu is debian based and used the same package manager
[19:16] <loicmarteau> hello everyone
[19:16] <metbsd> will there be conflict with debian?
[19:17] <Kalidarn> but that's not to say that (x/k)ubuntu deb files are compatible with debian or vice versa
[19:17] <vonkleist> afeijo, type dpkg -i file.deb on the command line
[19:17] <metbsd> also, where is mplayer?
[19:17] <loicmarteau> any tips to have a working composition with my intel card on jaunty
[19:17] <Kalidarn> mplayer is in the repos
[19:17] <afeijo> ok, it requested a few packages, shall I apt-get like libgnome2-0?
[19:17] <basy> hi, how can i check CPU temperature on KDE ?
[19:18] <afeijo> my fear is that installing those packages will make it install gnome like it did the other day, I just reinstalled on this notebook to remove gnome hehe
[19:18] <Kalidarn> basy, set up lm_sensors
[19:18] <Kalidarn> afeijo, dont install deb files manaully... its not windows
[19:18] <Kalidarn> use the package manager apt-get or use adept
[19:18] <afeijo> Kalidarn: dropbox software isnt on adept
[19:19] <Kalidarn> only use dpkg -i on 'proprietary stuff not in a repository'.... like say nerolinux for example or crossover office
[19:19] <Kalidarn> or if you compiled the deb file yourself
[19:19] <Kalidarn> yar that might be an example then of where you would use dpkg -i
[19:20] <Kalidarn> anyways im going to bed
[19:22] <afeijo> weird, I used .deb before with no problem.  I used that one in other 2 machines, it shouldnt stop me now :p
[19:23] <metbsd> what software do i need to install to play rmvb, rm files?
[19:24] <legodude> realplayer?
[19:25] <JackWinter> i question about grub.  i have a separate partition for /boot/grub.  i think the grub files themselves came from an 8.04 install.  now i installed 8.10 on a partition and wanted to add it to my menu.lst.  it came with a uuid line instead of the root one, but would not boot, i had to change it to a root line to get it booting.  do i need a newer grub or what ?
[19:28] <metbsd> so how to install realplayer?
[19:29] <legodude> metbsd: no clue
[19:31] <DaSkreech> !real
[19:32] <DaSkreech> metbsd: they have a install on the real.com site as well
[19:33] <legodude> real is the devil
[19:37] <momesana> what the heck is wrong with xserver-xorg-video-nsc and xserver-xorg-video-vga
[19:37] <momesana> they contain undefined symbols
[19:38] <momesana> xorg tells me this: X: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//nsc_drv.so: undefined symbol: xf86GetPciVideoInfo
[19:38] <metbsd> i want to get that 3d desktop to work
[19:38] <metbsd> how to do it, is it called compiz?
[19:39] <momesana> in other words someone who created the binaries has been doing something wrong (linking against the wrong libs) since I use the stable branch
[19:39] <momesana> metbsd: yes. do you use kubuntu or ubuntu?
[19:39] <metbsd> ku
[19:39] <momesana> metbsd: which version? kde-3 or kde-4?
[19:40] <metbsd> 4
[19:40] <momesana> btw, I never really had luck running compiz reliably in kde whereas gnome would werk rather seamlessly with compiz
[19:41] <metbsd> gnome work better wiith compiz?
[19:41] <momesana> metbsd: hm. I have not much experience with compiz in combination with kde4. It's only a few days that I've upgraded to it
[19:41] <metbsd> how come nobody tell me before
[19:41] <momesana> metbsd: that's what I've experienced so far. gnome would work out of the box with compiz
[19:42] <momesana> and kde-3 had a few issues with the pager and taskbar when used with compiz. those problems didn't exist with gnome
[19:42] <momesana> but kde is of course the better desktop
[19:42] <jtmoney> how can i disable the noises when kde4 starts up and shutsdown?
[19:42] <momesana> metbsd: I said, that was my experience. You should try to get it running on both and compare them
[19:43] <metbsd> is that why so many ppl use ubuntu instaed of ku?
[19:44] <momesana> metbsd: if you ask me, kde-4 is not really stable anyway. I have a million issues with it. I hope with kde-4.4 or so we will have something as mature as kde-3 but with much more capabilities
[19:45] <momesana> metbsd: yes, maybe. Though I guess the main reason is that mark shuttleworth decided to ship ubuntu. a simple decision that really had an impact on the userbase
[19:45] <metbsd> how do i install that reaplyaer bin file
[19:45] <momesana> metbsd: in my opinion kde-3 was all in all better than gnome and kde-4 will be much better but it will take a few releases
[19:46] <momesana> metbsd: where did you get the realplayer file?
[19:46] <metbsd> i dl it
[19:47] <momesana> well, you actually install software via apt-get
[19:47] <momesana> or dpkg
[19:47] <momesana> or you use any of the guis that are built on top of them (synaptic, adept etc.)
[19:48] <momesana> metbsd: try to install the helix player and see if it suffices to playback your files
[19:49] <momesana> apt-get install helix-player
[19:49] <momesana> metbsd: and anyway, what files do you want to play back? for most formats players like kaffeine, mplayer and vlc are the best choice
[19:49] <momesana> realplayer on linux suchs
[19:49] <momesana> sucks
[19:50] <loicmarteau> any tips to have a working composition with my intel card on jaunty :p
[19:50] <OxDeadC0de> I personally find vlc to be the best movie player for linux typically, tho I use mplayer a lot too
[19:50] <metbsd> i'm playing rmvb and rm files, all movies
[19:52] <momesana> metbsd: hm. mplayer can't playback those files? actually mplayer should be able to playback rm files if remember right.
[19:53] <momesana> metbsd: anyway, you need to add a repo containing the realplayer bin files since they don't seem to be contained in the default repos.
[19:53] <momesana> helixplayer is from the company that created realplayer and it's more or less opensource
[19:54] <momesana> try to playback the files with it first
[19:54] <metbsd> now i have samba problem, it sometimes see windows sometimes doesn't
[19:54] <momesana> or get an realplayer *.deb package and install it via dpkg -i *.deb
[19:54] <metbsd> too late, i've installed realplayer 11
[19:54] <metbsd> it's bine file
[19:54] <metbsd> bin
[19:54] <momesana> :)
[19:55] <momesana> metbsd: well, that would have been my last suggestion
[19:55] <momesana> though it's better to use stuff from repos since they are being updated and are managed by your packagemanager while u have to manage the bin files yourself
[20:00] <metbsd> i don't know why but it sometimes connect, sometimes don't connect windos share
[20:01] <metbsd> how do i upgrade all packages?
[20:06] <jonek_> hi, I have a problem with amarok on intrepid. it does not use font settings (antialiasing) made via systemsettings. why?
[20:08] <jonek_> how can I affect amarok's font settings in Intrepid?
[20:11] <DaSkreech> jonek_: It's KDE3
[20:12] <jonek_> DaSkreech: I know - my question is then: how can I change kde font setting in Ubuntu Intrepid?
[20:12] <jonek_> for kde3 apps
[20:13] <shibbz> Is there a way to test and make sure a swap partition is working?
[20:14] <jonek_> obviously systemsettings does not affect kde3 apps :-(
[20:14] <PsiKloPx> Can anyone help with the hardware drivers utility? New install (8.10) on a Dell Inspiron 1720.
[20:14] <DaSkreech> shibbz: man swapon
[20:15] <shibbz> thx
[20:18] <PsiKloPx> hardware driver utility crashes the system when I try to run it.
[20:21] <administrator_> g\\gu
[20:22] <administrator_> hi
[20:22] <administrator_> is there gui editor for smbmount?
[20:24] <__phil__> hi all
[20:24] <__phil__> this command seems to be taking a large portion of my CPU: kdesu -session 10142144cdca000122671044000000074660027_1227129163_774467
[20:24] <__phil__> I have 8.04.1 KDE4
[20:25] <__phil__> any ideas on what this might be or how to figure it out?
[20:25] <jonek_> DaSkreech: any hints for my amarok problem?
[20:25] <DaSkreech> jonek_: None that I can think of
[20:25] <DaSkreech> __phil__: You started your computer with a kdesu command in your old session. If you don't need it kill it
[20:26] <__phil__> appears to have been kicked off as part of init / kdeinit4 / ksmserver
[20:26] <__phil__> DaSkreech: ?  I wonder what I left running in sudo mode
[20:26]  * DaSkreech shrugs
[20:26] <__phil__> I had to reboot when wine crashed
[20:27] <__phil__> locked up the entire system
[20:27] <DaSkreech> well you had something running as kdesu
[20:27] <__phil__> thanks for the tip
[20:30] <wissman> hi every body!
[20:31] <administrator_> is there gui editor for smbmount?
[20:32] <sirPengi> administrator_: smb4k?
[20:32] <sirPengi> what do you mean by editor?
[20:33] <administrator_> like map a network connection in windows
[20:34] <sirPengi> I think smb4k might work for you
[20:35] <Ron73> hello
[20:36] <Ron73> jemand aus Deutschland hier
[20:36] <Ron73> ???
[20:36] <Archdevil> nein
[20:36] <Archdevil> Ron73, besitzer is a German
[20:36] <Ron73> sagt mal bitte teste hier grad ubuntu 8.10 UE
[20:36] <Archdevil> was ist das Problem?
[20:37] <Ron73> hat jemand erfahrungen auf dem gebiet gesammelt??
[20:37] <Archdevil> was moechtest du wissen?
[20:37] <Archdevil> ich drehe 8.10
[20:37] <Archdevil> kubuntu
[20:38] <Ron73> hab probleme mit meiner WLan Karte
[20:38] <Ron73> muß jedes mal beim start das netzwerk anmelden
[20:38] <Archdevil> ich habe einige wlan Karten probiert. Keine probleme. Welche Karte?
[20:38] <Ron73> D-Link
[20:38] <Ron73> PCMCIA
[20:39] <Archdevil> ok also keine Probleme mit die Karte
[20:39] <Ron73> AirPlus XtremeG
[20:40] <Ron73> DWL-G650
[20:40] <Archdevil> Ron73, select the connection and edit it
[20:40] <Archdevil> you can select auto-connect there
[20:41] <Archdevil> Verstehst du mich?
[20:41] <Ron73> jaaber dann beim hochfahren ist die Connection wieder weg
[20:41] <Ron73> und ich muß die jedes mal neu einloggen ins wlan
[20:42] <Ron73> weist du was ich meine
[20:42] <Archdevil> hast du auto-connect gewaehlt?
[20:42] <Ron73> ja
[20:42] <Ron73> weis auch nich weiter
[20:42] <Ron73> obs vieleicht am laptop liegt???
[20:43] <Ron73> is aber auch schon ein modernerer
[20:43] <Archdevil> ich werde ein Reboot machen um zu sehen ob es jetzt funktioniert. moment
[20:43] <DaSkreech> !de
[20:43] <Ron73> ASUS P4mobile mit 1,5 GB Speicher und 3,2 MHz
[20:44] <Ron73> "ubottu" danke schau da mal nach
[20:46] <momesana> Ron73: ubottu is ein bot ...
[20:46] <Ron73> oh
[20:46] <Ron73> na ok
[20:46] <Ron73> grins
[20:46] <momesana> ;)
[20:47] <momesana> Ron73: es war DaSkreech der den netten Hinweis indirekt ueber den bot gegeben hat
[20:47]  * DaSkreech bows
[20:47] <Ron73> sagt ma hat einer von euch hier Ubuntu 8.10 UE
[20:47] <momesana> :-D
[20:47] <momesana> Ron73: ja. ich
[20:47] <Archdevil> Ron73, auto-connect works for me
[20:48] <Ron73> bist Du zufrieden???
[20:48] <momesana> Ron73: habe mit Mueher ueber einer 56kbit leitung 800 MB gezogen. Das war nicht gerade ein Vergnuegen
[20:48] <momesana> Ron73: naja. Kde-4 ist ja noch recht unreif aber im grossen udn ganzen ja
[20:48] <Ron73> Hab lange gesucht . . . kubuntu, knoppix ubuntu verschiedene versionen
[20:48] <momesana> vor allem wenn man bedenkt dass ich noch gnome drauf habe
[20:49] <Ron73> bin erst kürzlich von Windoff umgestiegen und teste noch was für mich am besten ist
[20:49] <Ron73> glaube bin jetzt hängen geblieben
[20:49] <sourcemaker_> can I install the current Kvpnc version from source without having problems on a later update via apt?
[20:49] <Ron73> ich auch
[20:49] <stdin> !de | Ron73, momesana
[20:50] <momesana> Ron73: das ist unsinn mit den verschiedenen desktops. du kannst jedes der versionen in das andere umwandeln oder alle desktops gleichzeitig installiet haben. Ich hatte auch nur ne ubuntu cd und weil ich hier im Iran keinen DSL zugang habe musste ich halt ubuntu installieren. Da ich aber ein KDE user bin habe ich einfach durch das installieren von kubuntu-desktop KDE drauf gekriegt
[20:50] <Ron73> sorry da kenn ich mich nich so aus
[20:50] <DaSkreech> sourcemaker_: apt-get install source
[20:50] <Mr-S_> ROn73: bitte wende dich an die deutschsprachigenkanaele, dieser ist nr englisch
[20:50] <Ron73> bin erst umgestiegen
[20:51] <Ron73> ok sorry!!!
[20:51] <momesana> Ron73: also ubuntu ist ne gute Distro. und KDE ist meiner Meinung nach besser als Gnome oder XFCE. Ich bin ja an sich ein Gentoo user aber bin halt gezwungen vorerst ubuntu zu benutzen und bin noch recht zufrieden
[20:51] <stdin> Ron73, momesana: schreiben "/join #kubuntu-de"
[20:52]  * DaSkreech pushes momesana und Ron73 en #kubuntu-de
[20:52] <Mr-S_> thanks
[20:52] <momesana> DaSkreech: ok DaSkreech. We will stop speaking german right away :)
[20:52] <DaSkreech> Ach I need to restudy german
[20:52] <Archdevil> you guys are just jealous because you cannot speak German :-)
[20:52] <DaSkreech> momesana: No go ahead. Just not in this chan :)
[20:53] <momesana> I am wondering why I am speaking german at all. i am persian and living in iran dammit
[20:53] <DaSkreech> Archdevil: It distracts from the actual conversation here
[20:53] <Mr-S_> i speak german as well as other languages
[20:53] <momesana> DaSkreech: yeah, you are right
[20:53] <trappist> momesana: english and farsi only here, please ;)
[20:53] <DaSkreech> Archdevil: join ubuntu-jp and start speaking italian it's quite distracting
[20:53] <momesana> Mr-S_: I speak three languages and I thing that is more than sufficient
[20:53]  * dr_willis speeks Leet
[20:54] <momesana> trappist: hehe. I don't think there are many farsi speaking guys here though
[20:54] <DaSkreech> momesana: That's less than 1% of all languages :)
[20:54] <Mr-S_> no problem i speak 4 langaued perfectly an 2 more or less
[20:54]  * momesana looking for a farsi ubuntu channel
[20:54] <momesana> DaSkreech: yes, but german, farsi and english covers a loooooooooooooot of people
[20:54] <trappist> I don't think Linux has been very thoroughly i18n'ed to farsi
[20:54] <Ron73> Sorry @all
[20:55] <Archdevil> DaSkreech, I was just kidding
[20:55] <momesana> over 100 million speak german and we have the same number of farsi speaking people
[20:55] <trappist> you're lucky if you can even do right-to-left in vim
[20:55] <DaSkreech> Ron73: no issues :) Just more helpful for all if you use the right channels
[20:55] <Archdevil> And the italian part would be a bit of a problem. I only do Dutch, English and German :-)
[20:56] <momesana> trappist: well, KDE was translated to farsi but it was horrible. They really had translated "shell" to "pooste". That's like skin or shell, but you wouldn't expect stuff like that to be translated. It was really horrible
[20:56] <DaSkreech> Archdevil: Regardless non Japanese in a Japanese chan will give cause for konfusion
[20:56] <Mr-S_> i can do dutch as well :)
[20:56] <momesana> don't know how the state of the kde-4 farsi translation is
[20:56] <DaSkreech> momesana: Sounds like you want to volunteer :)
[20:56] <trappist> momesana: launchpad makes it very easy to contribute to those translations if you're interested
[20:56] <DaSkreech> In any case ...
[20:56] <DaSkreech> !ot | #kubuntu
[20:56] <momesana> DaSkreech: well, I am not sure. I have a kde developer account and can commit ...
[20:57] <Archdevil> Oh, Mr-S_  ......let's let's.......................but not here ;-)
[20:57] <momesana> DaSkreech: but I've so far only contributed some little piece of code and no translation
[20:57]  * DaSkreech hugs momesana
[20:58] <Mr-S_> not on the fist date :)
[20:58] <momesana> DaSkreech: anyway, the translation teams of kde and gnome should sit together and create a forum where they can exchanged and build a common base for terms used in both desktops
[20:58] <trappist> come to think of it, afaik there's only a small handful of free farsi fonts available
[20:58] <trappist> momesana: that sounds like a fantastic idea
[20:58] <momesana> DaSkreech: I really would like to see a KDE desktop in farsi
[20:59] <DaSkreech> momesana: So does KDE :)
[20:59] <momesana> trappist: what? I have installed a bunch of farsi fonts that look great. and they are available in the default ubuntu repository
[20:59] <trappist> momesana: I must be behind, then :)  it's been a couple of years since I looked
[20:59] <DaSkreech> Years?
[20:59] <DaSkreech> Good grief man 4 weeks is forgotten history in FOSS
[21:00] <Archdevil> I have experienced start-up problems with kde4
[21:00] <trappist> true enough
[21:00] <momesana> DaSkreech: I was thinkign about this for a while since I had this terrible experience with KDE-3. I had localized it and a friend of mine was here and started laughing at the strange translations of shell and stuff like that. :(
[21:00] <momesana> trappist: you speak persian?
[21:00] <DaSkreech> momesana: Well you have a commit account
[21:01] <trappist> momesana: not a word, I'm afraid - but if that's your native tongue and you speak english this well, you're ideally placed to fix up the farsi translations
[21:01] <DaSkreech> #kde-devel (or #kde-cafe atleast) would be a good place to start with making some links for translation teams
[21:01] <trappist> momesana: all that, and you know how to work with developers and scrm's - you have no excuse!
[21:01] <momesana> DaSkreech: yes. I first have to updte my kde-svn sources here. I haven't updated them for over three months. That's because there seems to be no ADSL available here anymore due to ahmadinejad
[21:01] <administrator_> where is codecs folder for mplayer?
[21:02] <momesana> trappist: yeah. I guess you are right :).
[21:02] <trappist> administrator_: there's not one single location for them.  most are probably in /usr/lib/, but your proprietary codecs if any will be elsewhere
[21:03] <Mr-S_> nether found out in (k)ubuntu ... L(
[21:03] <trappist> administrator_: wait I think I lied to you with old info!  check /usr/lib/codecs
[21:03] <trappist> if you're on intrepid
[21:03] <Mr-S_> be aware xine uses this dir as well by default ....
[21:05] <kevbuntu_> hey guys, i was wondering if i could get some help.
[21:05] <trappist> they used to go in /usr/lib/win32 but that's now a symlink to /usr/lib/codecs
[21:05] <kevbuntu_> i'm having trouble with my audio. here's what happened
[21:06] <kevbuntu_> my onboard audio was working great through the rear of my computer. i connected the front audo panel of my tower to the motherboard and now have audio through the front jacks. however, now I have no audio through the back???
[21:07] <kevbuntu_> how can i fix this??
[21:07] <Mr-S_> still having connected the front to something ?
[21:08] <kevbuntu_> yes
[21:08] <Mr-S_> break teh connection of front and only use the back connection and test again
[21:09] <kevbuntu_> ok
[21:09] <kevbuntu_> so there's probably no way to use both fron and back??
[21:10] <Mr-S_> its either front or back.. both is usually not possible
[21:10] <sgraham> #ubuntu
[21:10] <sgraham> damn it
[21:10] <Mr-S_> its a mainboard thing
[21:11] <kevbuntu_> what if i had a soundcard? could I use the front panel with a sound card??
[21:11] <Mr-S_> the front is usauly used for headphones, so theback will be cut off
[21:12] <kevbuntu_> i see. yeah, i am trying to use the front for my skype headset, but like you said, it's cutting out the back
[21:12] <Mr-S_> with a pci soundcard, the front will doing the same thing if it will work at all
[21:13] <Mr-S_> its due to the wiring of the mainbord. it setup to be used only with the onboard chip
[21:13] <kevbuntu_> so then where do i plug in my skype headset if i am plugging my speakers into the back??
[21:14] <Mr-S_> for this reaon you will find a mic in at the back as well
[21:14] <Mr-S_> that is the thing wit onboard soundcards. pci based soundcard will offer all the need on the back
[21:14] <da> How to install a .gz file
[21:14] <da> How to install a .gz file
[21:15] <Mr-S_> so use the back ports or your sound card / onboard chip
[21:16] <dr_willis> da - You dont.. If its a SOURCE archive.. you compile source...
[21:16] <Mr-S_> .gz file is a *zipped_ file, you will need to un *zip* it and check for an Install text file
[21:16] <da> yes i have unzipped it
[21:16] <dr_willis> !compile
[21:16] <da> what next
[21:16] <carpii> hi all, is there a better archive manager than Ark? It really has some usability issues for me :/
[21:17] <dr_willis> wine winrar.exe
[21:17] <dr_willis> :)
[21:17] <Mr-S_> ark is good. what seems to be the issue
[21:18] <DaSkreech> da: really depends on what is in the archive
[21:18] <Mr-S_> for winrar use goole "winrar linux" install teh rar and unrar files to usr/local/bin and you can use rar files
[21:18] <fehrp> I downloaded kubuntu (intrepid 8.10 with kde 4.1 and knetworkmanager does not connect to wpa encrypted home-lan. with "no encryption" it works but not with wpa
[21:18] <carpii> Mr-S, it always seems to complain about various things, like files already existing etc, but theres no option to overwrite.
[21:19] <fehrp> the setup is fairly evil for new users, they get to see eth0 and ath0 and have no clue what it means, there is no autodetect for what encryption an essid has and so on. To conclude: WTF?
[21:19] <carpii> well theres a global option, but no option on the warning dialog which Id prefer
[21:19] <fehrp> this all worked years before!
[21:19] <DaSkreech> fehrp: Strange I couldn't get mine to work till I turned on WPA
[21:19] <fehrp> DaSkreech: lol
[21:19] <Mr-S_> this means you either alreadu unrared the files to the same dir or you have a corrupted file
[21:20] <Mr-S_> use terminal > cd to dir rar file : tyoe unrar e (rar file name )
[21:20] <carpii> no,l i was given a few updates files to extract over the top of a prevously unzipped archive
[21:20] <da> a flash player setup
[21:20] <da> or is it an easyer way to get it
[21:20] <kevbuntu_> Mr-S: i know there is mic jack in the back, but my headset has two plugs on it, one for mic and one for ear piece. so if i plug it into the back, where do i plug in my regular computer speakers?
[21:20] <carpii> well yeah, i could use unzip or tar etc, but is there any alternative gui archive managers?
[21:20] <fehrp> I found out that this is my bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/knetworkmanager/+bug/278386 and it seems very wide spread
[21:20] <fehrp> any help on that?
[21:20] <Mr-S_> or type unrar to see the options
[21:21] <jmichaelx> umm, could someone tell me which directory checkinstall places a newly created .deb into?
[21:21] <DaSkreech> !flash | da
[21:21] <fehrp> please kubuntu dev team: this is a serious issue
[21:21] <jmichaelx> i have looked in /tmp... but it wasn't there
[21:22] <Mr-S_> kev> you cant. either the head set (mic in + speakers for headphones ) or just mic and sperakers. no alternative
[21:22] <DaSkreech> fehrp: This isn't the Kubuntu devteam
[21:22] <kevbuntu_> ok, that's what i wanted to clarify. thanks for the help, Mr-S
[21:22] <xenol> hello, i just installed kubuntu 8.10 on my lappy, everything works great, but i am having problems with sound, nothing sounds. i got some error about DCOP, any ideas? please help
[21:22] <kevbuntu_> i really do appreciate it
[21:22] <da> !flash | da
[21:22] <Mr-S_> or get your self a soundblaser
[21:24] <kevbuntu_> why would that help?
[21:24] <xenol> hello, i just installed kubuntu 8.10 on my lappy, everything works great, but i am having problems with sound, nothing sounds. i got some error about DCOP, any ideas? please help
[21:24] <da> omg
[21:24] <da> help i have 8.10 and need thelp to install Adobe Flash Player
[21:25] <momesana> xenol, check to see if the the driver is kloaded
[21:25] <momesana> xenol: issue alsamixer in the commandline
[21:25] <Mr-S_> kev: a spundbalster oci card has rear and front speaker output. up can connect front to speakers, and the rear to the headphone + mic in for the mic
[21:25] <fehrp> DaSkreech: where can I reach the devs?
[21:25] <da> help i have 8.10 and need thelp to install Adobe Flash Player
[21:25] <da> help i have 8.10 and need thelp to install Adobe Flash Player
[21:25] <momesana> xenol: if anything is muted, unmute it and increase the volume
[21:25] <Mr-S_> n short terms, no need to unplug the speakers. The rest can be setup in skype
[21:25] <squid0> hey there
[21:26] <squid0> what's the story with bluetooth? it was broken, has it been fixed yet?
[21:26] <xenol> momesana: thx
[21:26] <Mr-S_> with onboard soundcard, either the speakers are connected or the headphones ... :(
[21:26] <momesana> xenol: does it work now?
[21:26] <DaSkreech> !flash > da
[21:26] <kevbuntu_> i see. well, I have a sound card, so I guess I'll give that a try
[21:26] <squid0> !bluetooth
[21:27] <DaSkreech> #kubuntu-devel
[21:27] <Mr-S_> i fyou have a sound card, open a terminal an type sudp alsaconfig
[21:27] <da> hate you boot you only send help for 7.4 and lower i use 8.10
[21:27] <momesana> xenol: instead of alsamixer one can also use the graphical frontends: kmixer etc. but alsamixer is always there so it's a good desktop-environment agnostic fallback
[21:27] <jmichaelx> could someone tell me which directory checkinstall places a newly created .deb into?
[21:27] <Mr-S_> *sudo alsconfig
[21:28] <momesana> jmichaelx: /var/cache/apt/archives
[21:28] <Mr-S_> the system will check for available ( and supported ) pci based sound cards.
[21:28] <DaSkreech> da: Installs the same way
[21:28] <xenol> momesana: i am getting error alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory
[21:28] <Mr-S_> most likly u=you will need to disable you onboard sound card in the pc bios to use the pci baes soudncard
[21:28] <momesana> xenol: sounds like there is a problem with the driver then
[21:28] <jmichaelx> ty momesana
[21:29] <da> ok
[21:29] <da> tnx
[21:29] <momesana> xenol: what sound card do you use? what does pci -vv | grep multimedia return?
[21:29] <momesana> xenol: try this: http://informatik.uni-bremen.de/~momesana/zoje_salmand.pdf
[21:30] <kevbuntu_> yeah, i figured as much regarding the onboard sound
[21:30] <momesana> oops
[21:30] <momesana> I mean:  lspci -vv | grep -i Audio
[21:30] <xenol> momesana: it works now. thx
[21:31] <momesana> :)
[21:31] <kevbuntu_> so run sudo alsaconfig AFTER i plug in the sound card, hook everything up, and turn my computer back on???
[21:31] <jmichaelx> momesana: i don't really think that is where checkinstall places new .debs.... that just looks like a list of already installed .debs
[21:32] <xenol> tho one things matters me, and no idea how to solve it. it mute multimedia button, raise/lower volume level works, but mute no :/
[21:32] <xenol> momesana: any idea?
[21:32] <momesana> jmichaelx: that is the place where the .debs are downloaded to
[21:32] <jmichaelx> momesana: hmm. well the .deb i just created does not appear to be there
[21:33] <danub> will compiz run on kubuntu?
[21:33] <kevbuntu_> yes, danub
[21:33] <momesana> jmichaelx: I thought that was what you were looking for. If you want to install a package apt first looks into that directory and if the file ain't there it starts to download the file by first placint it into /var/cache/apt/archive/partial and once the download is complete it's moved to /var/cache/apt/archive
[21:33] <danub> where can i find a guide to installing it? i have installed compiz, compiz manager, several plugin packages
[21:33] <squid0> what's the status with bluetooth in kubuntu?
[21:33] <momesana> jmichaelx: oh, you created the debs yourself. well, never done that so I can't tell. :(
[21:34] <DaSkreech> squid0: Check launchpad ?
[21:34] <danub> i opened a terminal and ran compiz, the desktops flickered, icons moved around alittle, but i still only see the same effects kde4.1 was using before
[21:34] <jmichaelx> momesana: ok. i was not downloading a package, i was creating a .deb from source using checkinstall.... and i have forgotten where it puts the newly created .deb
[21:34] <squid0> DaSkreech: what, search and see if there are any bugs open and what their statuses are? is there not a simpler way, like asking someone who knows?
[21:34] <momesana> xenol: well, in alsamixer using m while the focus is on the bar you want to unmute ... it will mute/unmute the channel
[21:35] <xenol> momesana: i know about that, but i want mute button on laptop to work
[21:35] <Novalgina2Fast> hi guys, how i can mount a image mdf or mds in kde?
[21:35] <kevbuntu_> danub: my bad, i didn't realize you were using KDE4.1. i don't know how to set up compiz in KDE4. i'm not even sure if it would work???
[21:35] <momesana> xenol: ah! ok. well, that's maybe not supported. I think it never worked on my fujitsu siemens notebook either
[21:35] <DaSkreech> squid0: You've been asking for a while. I'm guessing that a quick websearch would be about as fast as sitting and waiting and the two can happen in parallel
[21:36] <DaSkreech> danub: compiz --replace
[21:36] <danub> replace what?
[21:36] <momesana> xenol: though it must be easy to implement ... so maybe someone has a workaround.
[21:36] <Mr-S_> danub: make sure you habe installed the correct drivers for you nvidia or ati vga card
[21:36] <kevbuntu_> hahaha
[21:36] <DaSkreech> danub: The current window manager
[21:36] <xenol> momesana: i will look for it, google almigthy
[21:36] <DaSkreech> compiz only works if you have no window manager currently running
[21:36] <kevbuntu_> danub: it's a terminal command
[21:36] <squid0> DaSkreech: I asked once before. I'm looking at google now
[21:37] <danub> Mr-S_: no idea if it has installed the correct ones or not. when i ran compiz, i still see everything so im guessing yeah
[21:37] <momesana> xenol: yep. uncle google is the right person to ask :)
[21:37] <DaSkreech> squid0: Let us know if you find an answer
[21:37] <DaSkreech> danub: you can press alt+F2 -> compiz --replace
[21:37] <kevbuntu_> well guys, I'm turning off my computer to try this soundcard for my audio problem. be back in a bit to report. thanks again Mr-S
[21:37] <HappySmileMan> Can I just ask if Desktop effects are working in KDE4.1.3 for you guys?
[21:37] <danub> yeah i just did that and i am getting unable to open display
[21:38] <HappySmileMan> I'm on Intrepid
[21:38] <Mr-S_> danbun:do you have a nvidia or ati baes card ?
[21:38] <danub> unable to open x display
[21:38] <danub> intel... im using the acer aspire 1 netbook
[21:39] <DaSkreech> HappySmileMan: Works fine here
[21:39] <Mr-S_> ok ... are you able to boot into KDE ?
[21:39] <DaSkreech> dab
[21:39] <DaSkreech> danub: export DISPLAY=:0.0; compiz --replace
[21:39] <danub> yeah, kde is loaded on f7 right now
[21:40] <Mr-S_> open a terminal an type : glxgears
[21:40] <Mr-S_> does anyting happen ?
[21:40] <danub> couldn't popen display 0.0
[21:40] <danub> couldn't popen display :0.0
[21:41] <danub> tried your command DaSkreech and it didn't work either
[21:41] <DaSkreech> danub: Where are you typing this?
[21:41] <danub> no xgl protocol available
[21:41] <danub> f1 screen
[21:41] <jmichaelx> could someone tell me which directory checkinstall places a newly created .deb into?
[21:41] <squid0> DaSkreech and others: here are some links related to the bluetooth status in kubuntu: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IntrepidReleaseNotes#Kubuntu Bluetooth support
[21:41] <Mr-S_> since you are in  KDE ( as you said ) we will need to look at xorg.conf
[21:41] <DaSkreech> danub:
[21:42] <DaSkreech> do them on two lines then
[21:42] <DrX> how do i set permissions on /dir so that new directories created by any user inherit the permissions given to /dir ?
[21:42] <DaSkreech> export DISPLAY=:0.0
[21:42] <DaSkreech> then
[21:42] <squid0> or rather: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IntrepidReleaseNotes#Kubuntu%20Bluetooth%20support
[21:42] <DaSkreech> compiz --replace
[21:42] <Mr-S_> open a terminal and type sudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[21:42] <squid0> moreover: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase-workspace/+bug/280997
[21:42] <Mr-S_> kate should open a a file called xorg.conf now
[21:42] <danub> unable to open display
[21:42] <DaSkreech> jmichaelx: I would assume the dir that you ran the command in
[21:43] <squid0> and lastly: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6153714
[21:43] <danub> lemme flip over to the kde, open a terminal, and reconnect in here so i can copy/paste things you ask for
[21:43] <danub> brb
[21:44] <DaSkreech> squid0: bluez-gnome
[21:44] <jmichaelx> DaSkreech: well, there is nothing there, even though checkinstall seemed to have run without errors. i had thought that i rememebered in that past that it placed the .deb into another dir... like /tmp or something
[21:45] <HappySmileMan> Hmmm desktop effects only work when I select XRender instead of OpenGL, but I have the proprietary NVidia driver working fine (as in, I can play 3d games no prob)
[21:46] <danub> hey, ill be back in a sec. my kde is messed up now and i cant move any windows so everything is on top of my terminal. im gonna restart and then i can paste stuff whereever you need it pasted to.
[21:46] <squid0> DaSkreech: how does that help me if I'm running kde?
[21:46] <DaSkreech> it gets bluetooth working if you need it
[21:46] <Mr-S_> restart your system and come back
[21:46] <DaSkreech> Danu: you killed you window manager
[21:47] <Danu> ¿?
[21:47] <Danu> what?
[21:52] <DaSkreech> Danu: Sorry was talking to danub and he went offline right before i pressed tab
[21:52] <Danu> umm Ok XD
[21:53] <DaSkreech> squid0: running KDE on a mac mini for example
[21:53] <squid0> k, I'll be back shortly
[21:55] <danub> ok, im back
[21:56] <danub> tried to compiz --replace before i logged into kde and still gave me the no display found error
[21:57] <DaSkreech> danub: It would since you wouldn't have logged in ye
[21:57] <danub> what is the default key combo for the cube? i see that some of the effects i did have been applied
[21:57] <danub> oh
[21:57] <danub> well in that case, lemme try now that i am logged in
[21:57] <DaSkreech> alt+Ctrl +Left
[21:57] <DaSkreech> danub: Open a konsole and type it in
[21:57] <danub> but ill do it in a terminal in the kde session since the f2 screen didn't work
[21:58] <squid0> DaSkreech: ok, I installed it, and restarted, but it doesn't show any bluetooth devices - I have one built in but it doesn't show up on the list...
[21:59] <danub> ok, i have no idea what just happened, but something did.... after i typed it in, my screen flickered, went back and i had to log in again
[21:59] <DaSkreech> It logged you out?
[21:59] <danub> yeah
[22:00] <danub> took me back to splash screen
[22:00] <DaSkreech> ooooohk
[22:00] <danub> i just tried loading up the compiz config manager and it is giving me a dbus error
[22:00] <danub> compiz is not running, dbus plugin cant be used unless compiz is running
[22:00] <HappySmileMan> Anyone using NVidia drivers have trouble getting desktop effects working? Mine only work with XRender (and that's buggy), used to work with OpenGL, and my drivers work fine
[22:01] <kevbuntu_> Mr=S: soundcard fixed the problem. I have my headset plugged in and my speakers and everything is working, THANKS AGAIN!
[22:01] <kevbuntu_> Mr-S*
[22:01] <Mr-S_> afk for a while
[22:02] <momesana> :-<. The kwin effects are far from smooth. It's really inferior to what compiz has to offer. I hope kwin in kde-4.2 and 4.3 will do a little better than that
[22:02] <Mr-S_> kev i think your intel card is not really installed (  for glx ) in xorg.conf.
[22:02] <squid0> DaSkreech: this while when I do hcitool dev it shows the device
[22:03] <danub> how do i enable compiz to run?
[22:03] <Mr-S_> so we need to checj xorg.conf to check on this.
[22:03] <danub> just open a terminal and run compiz?
[22:03] <kevbuntu_> ok
[22:03] <DaSkreech> momesana: look nice for me
[22:03] <kevbuntu_> want me to pull it up in a terminal
[22:03] <kevbuntu_> ??
[22:03] <Mr-S_> the proble, rigtht now is , i have to go to a meeting right now.
[22:03] <kevbuntu_> oh ok
[22:03] <Mr-S_> so can anyone take over please !!!!!!!
[22:04] <kevbuntu_> well, it is working. so it can wait
[22:04] <danub> kevbuntu_: what is the problem?
[22:04] <Mr-S_> little tip : open a console and type glxgears .. does anything happen ?
[22:05] <Mr-S_> i have to attend a bussiness meeting in a moment .... :(
[22:05] <kevbuntu_> no
[22:05] <danub> yes
[22:05] <danub> i see gears spinning
[22:05] <kevbuntu_> my bad... that wasn't for me. lol
[22:06] <kevbuntu_> danub: my problem is actually solved. i think that Mr-S was talking to you.
[22:06] <Mr-S_> tip : http://swik.net/Kubuntu/del.icio.us%2Ftag%2Fkubuntu/Install+compiz+fusion+on+Intel+chip+-+Ubuntu+Forums/cad04
[22:06] <Mr-S_> or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=513879
[22:07] <Mr-S_> I am very sorry really have to go now
[22:07] <SkitleLinux18> kevbuntu_ is now SkitleLinux18
[22:07] <SkitleLinux18> danub, i may be about to help
[22:07] <SkitleLinux18> you do see gears in the terminal?
[22:08] <danub> yeah
[22:08] <SkitleLinux18> ok
[22:08] <danub> brb phone
[22:08] <danub> ok back
[22:08] <SkitleLinux18> and you said you did install graphics drivers, but wasn't sure if they actually installed or now??
[22:08] <danub> screw them this is more important :)
[22:08] <SkitleLinux18> haha!
[22:09] <danub> no i said that i never installed the drivers, but since everything is running, i am assuming they are installed and are the correct ones
[22:09] <danub> if they weren't i dont think i would have seen the gears
[22:09] <danub> but if i actually knew what i was talking about i wouldn't be in here asking how to make it work so yeah... teach me obee
[22:10] <SkitleLinux18> you're probably right about your drivers. but humor me for a minute, =D
[22:10] <danub> not a problem, what do you want me to do
[22:11] <SkitleLinux18> go into your kde menu and navigate to "Hardware Drivers"
[22:11] <SkitleLinux18> see if anything is listed
[22:11] <danub> just my wifi card
[22:11] <SkitleLinux18> ok, i highly doubt your graphics drivers are installed properly
[22:12] <Novalgina2Fast> !mount
[22:12] <Novalgina2Fast> !DiskMounter
[22:13] <danub> this is the output from the lspci
[22:13] <danub> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GME Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
[22:13] <danub> 00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS/GME, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
[22:13] <danub> i dont know if these are nvidia or ati though
[22:13]  * danub shrugs
[22:13] <SkitleLinux18> ok... stand by
[22:14] <momesana> danub: neither one of them. these are the standard onboard graphics-chipsets from intel. They are very common with new mainboards
[22:14] <sirPengi> those are neither
[22:14] <sirPengi> looks like integrated graphics
[22:14] <danub> ok, so... the drivers should already be installed then correct?
[22:15] <momesana> danub: yep.
[22:15] <danub> especially since im in a kde session right now chatting with you lovely folk
[22:15] <danub> ok, so whats next?
[22:15] <momesana> with newer versions of ubuntu (X.org) simply use Intel as driver in the driver section
[22:15] <bukharin> hello
[22:16] <DaSkreech> !hi
[22:16] <momesana> with earlier versions of X.org you would use i810 or something lke that
[22:16] <bukharin> i was trying to install Knights today...
[22:16] <bukharin> but it depends on kdbase-kio-pluigns...
[22:16] <danub> i dont have a driver section in my xorg.conf file
[22:17] <bukharin> and this is not available for intrepid
[22:17] <danub> just device, screen, monitor
[22:17] <danub> brb, got a dev in here asking me aquestion
[22:17] <bukharin> anyone knows what's going on?
[22:17] <SkitleLinux18> danub: your drivers are not installed. if they were, you would see them in Hardware Drivers. however, linux is still smart enough to use the most basic functions of your card. that is how you are in KDE chatting with me =D
[22:17] <momesana> danub: well, it's probably the default one created with ubuntu. It's all a little wierd to me as a gentoo user who would create a standard xorg file by issuing X -configure and then tweaking that file
[22:18] <SkitleLinux18> danub: this is what I want you to do
[22:18] <SkitleLinux18> ready?
[22:18] <bukharin> i'm affraid his AFK at the moment :)
[22:18] <bukharin> he is*
[22:18] <momesana> SkitleLinux18: are you talking about the grafik card drivers?
[22:19] <SkitleLinux18> yes
[22:19] <SkitleLinux18> i think i found the solution
[22:19] <captainbraille> I have a question, what is the plasmoid thing that is next to the Kmenu and lets me look at all my folders with dolphin?
[22:19] <momesana> they intel one ist most likely installed
[22:19] <momesana> SkitleLinux18: it only needs to be enabled in a proper x.org file
[22:19] <SkitleLinux18> it's not. i found out what he needs
[22:19] <bukharin> if eh has an intel card, xorg-viedo-intel should be installed
[22:19] <danub> ok, back
[22:19] <danub> so whats up
[22:19] <bukharin> but the default Xorg will not use it until you stateit explicitly
[22:19] <bukharin> had a similar problem on a dell inspiron a while back
[22:20] <momesana> bukharin: and I think it is installed by default. let me look at my setup because I need the same driver
[22:20] <alexei> hello, I get gnome network manager started on KDE login, how do I disable that? Any Idea?
[22:21] <danub> ok, im back SkitleLinux18
[22:21] <danub> you said you found the solution to my little problem?
[22:21] <captainbraille> Does anyone know what the plasmoid next to the Kmenu that lets me look at all my folders with dolphin is called? I can't get it back
[22:21] <danub> dev's are hating me right now lol. i keep telling them to go away till im down and then ill look at thier stuff lol
[22:22] <momesana> the intel drivers are installed on my box and I didn't install them manually. They were installed when I setup the system
[22:22] <bukharin> captainbrialle: Quick Access?
[22:22] <bukharin> captainbraille: Quick Access?
[22:22] <captainbraille> bukharin: is what with it is?
[22:22] <momesana> anyway, try to create a basic Xorg file by issuing X :1 -configure
[22:22] <momesana> and finetune the file
[22:22] <SkitleLinux18> alright, this is pissing me off! haha danub: some sites are showing that your chipset is nvidia and some are saying it is ati???
[22:22] <danub> lol
[22:23] <SkitleLinux18> can you look your computer up on the manufacturer's website??
[22:23] <bukharin> danub: you don't know the make of your card?
[22:23] <danub> sure, its just an acer aspire 1 though... ill look real quick and get back to you
[22:23] <danub> no idea, its onboard
[22:23] <momesana> danub: if your card is the one you showed us via lspci ... namely intel chipsets then look if xserver-xorg-video-intel or xserver-xorg-video-i810 are installed
[22:23] <SkitleLinux18> ok. check to see what the onboard video is: nv or ati.
[22:24] <azur4> helllo
[22:24] <azur4> im pali
[22:24] <danub> how do i check if those are installed?
[22:24] <momesana> danub: onboard = intel/sis/via and in your case its definetly intel. period/
[22:24] <azur4> do you speak hungarian
[22:24] <SkitleLinux18> that is a really low chipset, danub. it might be that you can't get it to work. some forums are showing it's too low
[22:24] <bukharin> danub: with adept
[22:24] <azur4> ?
[22:24] <momesana> danub: via apt-get
[22:24] <momesana> or synaptic
[22:24] <azur4> do you speak hungarian
[22:24] <azur4> do you speak hungarian
[22:24] <azur4> do you speak hungarian
[22:24] <azur4> do you speak hungarian
[22:24] <azur4> do you speak hungarian
[22:24] <azur4> do you speak hungarian
[22:24] <azur4> do you speak hungarian
[22:24] <azur4> do you speak hungarian
[22:24] <azur4> do you speak hungarian
[22:24] <azur4> do you speak hungarian
[22:24] <azur4> ??????????
[22:25] <bukharin> azur4: no.
[22:25] <azur4> :(
[22:25] <danub> what do i do? apt-cache search "intel driver"; apt-get install?
[22:25] <DaSkreech> !hu
[22:25] <bukharin> azur4: adn stop with the flood
[22:25] <momesana> azur4: that's not nice to do that here
[22:25] <momesana> we are not blind
[22:25] <momesana> azur4: check to see if you find hungarian ubuntu channels. There are good chances you find some
[22:25] <bukharin> danub: apt-cache search will search in the repos
[22:26] <bukharin> apt-get install will install it or tell you if its already installed.
[22:26] <azur4> és hogy lehet magyar irc csatornára váltani tudniillik én most kezdtem a linuxot 1-2 órája
[22:26] <azur4> !
[22:26] <azur4> ?
[22:26] <sirPengi> is there a way to customize the output of the phosphor screensaver? I'm changing ~/.kde/share/config/phosphorrc and the other settings (scale, etc) are working but setting program to my script doesn't
[22:26] <momesana> danub: start synaptic and search for xserver-xorg-video
[22:26] <SkitleLinux18> yeah, that is the easiest way danub
[22:26] <bukharin> well... i guess i won't get any info on what happened to kio-plugins :(
[22:27] <momesana> then in the list look out for xserver-xorg-video-intel
[22:27] <azur4> és hogy lehet magyar irc csatornára váltani tudniillik én most kezdtem a linuxot 1-2 órája
[22:27] <azur4> és hogy lehet magyar irc csatornára váltani tudniillik én most kezdtem a linuxot 1-2 órája
[22:27] <azur4> és hogy lehet magyar irc csatornára váltani tudniillik én most kezdtem a linuxot 1-2 órája
[22:27] <azur4> és hogy lehet magyar irc csatornára váltani tudniillik én most kezdtem a linuxot 1-2 órája
[22:27] <azur4> és hogy lehet magyar irc csatornára váltani tudniillik én most kezdtem a linuxot 1-2 órája
[22:27] <azur4> és hogy lehet magyar irc csatornára váltani tudniillik én most kezdtem a linuxot 1-2 órája
[22:27] <azur4> és hogy lehet magyar irc csatornára váltani tudniillik én most kezdtem a linuxot 1-2 órája
[22:27] <azur4> és hogy lehet magyar irc csatornára váltani tudniillik én most kezdtem a linuxot 1-2 órája
[22:27] <azur4> és hogy lehet magyar irc csatornára váltani tudniillik én most kezdtem a linuxot 1-2 órája
[22:27] <azur4> és hogy lehet magyar irc csatornára váltani tudniillik én most kezdtem a linuxot 1-2 órája
[22:27] <azur4> ?
[22:27] <bukharin> can someone kick the flooder plis?
[22:27] <momesana> would someone be so nice to kick that azur4 out of the channel?
[22:27] <danub> it is already installed
[22:27] <danub> !op
[22:28] <momesana> danub: that's what I said all the time ;)
[22:28] <danub> would one of you be so kind as to kick azur4 please?
[22:28] <cuznt> well now he stopped
[22:28] <momesana> you didn't want to listen
[22:28] <momesana> danub: so now create a basic xorg file
[22:28] <PriceChild> !hu | azur4
[22:28] <bukharin> ehem, why does he need to create a new one?
[22:28] <bukharin> he just has to add one line
[22:28] <bukharin> with device intel
[22:28] <bukharin> or driver intel
[22:28] <bukharin> i dopn't remember :P
[22:28] <Coggz> would you suggest ubuntu 32bit or 64bit for a dual core cpu?
[22:28] <danub> yeah, im alittle confused as to that also momesana
[22:29] <danub> ill make one anyway just for fun :P whats the command
[22:29] <momesana> danub: issue the following into the command line: X :1 -configure (you can switch back to your current xorg session by pressing ctrl+alt-7)
[22:29] <bukharin> danub: back up your semi-working one. it is really easy to fsck up your xorg :P
[22:29] <danub> lol ok
[22:30] <momesana> bukharin: he is not owerwriting it yet
[22:30] <momesana> overwriting*
[22:31] <danub> ok, just backed it up and ran your command
[22:31] <danub> now what?
[22:31] <DaSkreech> !hu | azur4
[22:31] <Omoikane_> Does anyone know how to install the 64 bit adobe flash player for ubuntu?
[22:32] <danub> momesana: now what do i need to do?
[22:33] <danub> ohh, he was gone
[22:33] <danub> lol
[22:33] <momesana_> sorry
[22:33] <danub> that would explain why you weren't answering me momesana
[22:33] <momesana_> got disconnected
[22:33] <momesana_> damned dialup
[22:33] <bukharin> DIALUP!?
[22:33] <danub> DONT EVER DO THAT AGAIN!!! :P j/p
[22:33] <bukharin> yisus. i feel your pain.
[22:33] <momesana_> yep
[22:33] <momesana_> ok
[22:33] <momesana_> so you did issue the command?
[22:33] <danub> yes
[22:34] <momesana_> bukharin: yeah, I am in iran and ahmadinejad killed the nice 2Mbit ADSL connections we had 5 years ago
[22:34] <bukharin> well, i won be getting any info on my thingy, so i'll let you two get on with the intel driver. good luck!
[22:34] <momesana_> bukharin: and it costs me a loooooooooooot of money
[22:34] <bukharin> :O
[22:34] <danub> bukharin: what \was your question?
[22:34] <bukharin> i think this is my first tme chattin with an iranian
[22:35] <momesana_> danub: ok danub, so you can try out the config easily by trying this: X -config pathtoyournewconfig :1
[22:35] <bukharin> danub: i wanted to install knights, a ches program, but t asks for a non available package
[22:35] <danub> i dont know what the path to the new config is
[22:35] <momesana_> and see if it works. use ctrl Alt backspace to kill it once you have tested it
[22:35] <momesana_> bukharin: hehe. where are you from?
[22:35] <bukharin> so i wanted to know if anyone here knew what happende to kio-plugins
[22:35] <bukharin> chile
[22:35] <SkitleLinux18> momesana: good job, dude. you were right that is is installed. my bad. danub: you're in good hands with momesana, so i'm going to let him take over. good luck!
[22:35] <bukharin> momesana_: im from chile.
[22:36] <momesana_> danub:  it was created in the directory where you issued the command from
[22:36] <danub> bukharin: lemme check my repos
[22:36] <danub> oh crap... relal?
[22:36] <momesana_> and it is called xorg-new or something like that
[22:36] <danub> really? i was in /etc/X11/....
[22:36] <SkitleLinux18> hahahahaha
[22:36] <SkitleLinux18> have fun guys!!
[22:36] <momesana_> bukharin: I've been chatting with a few guys from chile though
[22:37] <momesana_> bukharin: nice country spanning half of the continent :)
[22:37] <danub> bukharin: kdebase-kio-plugins
[22:37] <bukharin> momesana_ yes. very long and narrow. it has its advantages... we are enver to far from the sea :)
[22:37] <danub> bukharin: kdesdk-kio-plugins
[22:37] <momesana_> :)
[22:38] <bukharin> danub: yep, that's the one. seems kde 4 changed its kio architecture, and it hasn't been ported or somwething
[22:38] <danub> those are the ones i found in the repos
[22:38] <danub> brb
[22:38] <bukharin> danub: knights asks for kdebase-kio-plugins
[22:38] <bukharin> danub but is not available :(
[22:39] <momesana_> danub: did you try out the new X.org file to see if X starts at all?
[22:44] <DaSkreech> bukharin: ask someone in #kde-devel sounds like a package conflict
[22:44] <danub> wow
[22:44] <bukharin> DaSkreech: thanks a bunch. i was wondering if this was the right channel to ask in :)
[22:44] <danub> that guy talks wayyyy too much
[22:45] <danub> ok, lemme see if i can install that package from the repo.... i have a very large special repo list :P
[22:45] <Omoikane_> I installed ibex and now my mute button doesn't work. I tried playing with the assignments to make sure the button itself works and it does but for some reason the mute function doesn't work anymore. any ideas?
[22:46] <bukharin> danub: dont worry, i'll see if i can get some answers in kde-devel.
[22:46] <bukharin> danub: thanks!
[22:46] <courtjesterg> hi ppl
[22:46] <DaSkreech> bukharin: Argh. #kubuntu-devel
[22:46] <DaSkreech> It's a kubuntu issue not a KDE
[22:46] <DaSkreech> !hi
[22:47] <danub> nope, your sol
[22:48] <danub> try the #kubuntu-devel chan
[22:48] <danub> momesana_: i cant find the new xorg
[22:49] <bukharin> Daskreech: yeah, the guys at kde-devel wuickly pointed out it was not their bussiness :)
[22:49] <CourtJesterG> DUNNO JUST LOOKED IN ADEPT SETTINGS NVIDIA X SERVER SETTINGS ITS CALLED 177.78 sry caps
[22:49] <momesana_> danub: well, just change into some directory like /tmp and issue the command again
[22:49] <danub> ok
[22:49] <momesana_> to create a file
[22:49] <CourtJesterG> yeah just did a clean reinstall
[22:49] <DaSkreech> bukharin: sorry about that
[22:49] <momesana_> or search for the file with find ~ -iname "xorg.conf.new"
[22:49] <CourtJesterG> no just type in nvida
[22:50] <CourtJesterG> nvidia and look at settings
[22:50] <momesana_> danub: the file was called xorg.conf.new and I guess you issued the command from your homedirectory or /etc/X11 or whereever you were with the shell
[22:50] <Omoikane_> anyone have any experience with broken mute buttons?
[22:50] <momesana_> just look around a little or simply create a new file
[22:50] <momesana_> Omoikane_: you mean on tha notebook?
[22:51] <Omoikane_> momesana_ yes
[22:51] <danub> it is telling me that a display is already in use
[22:51] <danub> and i cant use it
[22:51] <momesana_> we had that discussion a while ago
[22:52] <momesana_> danub: use X :1 -configure
[22:52] <momesana_> danub: the :1 means start a second X session on F8
[22:52] <danub> yeah i did that, i made the new file, i flipped over to f2 screen and ran 'X -config /root/xorg.conf.new'
[22:52] <danub> ohh
[22:53] <momesana_> if you have already two sessions running you could use :2 with X :2 -configure and so on. In other words one can have more than one X-session running
[22:53] <danub> X : 1 config /root/xorg.conf.new' then?
[22:53] <momesana_> danub: ok, so you must use X -config /root/xorg.conf.new -- :1
[22:53] <momesana_> :)
[22:53] <danub> ok, ill give that a shot
[22:53] <Omoikane_> momesana_ any ideas?
[22:53] <momesana_> well ... nope
[22:54] <momesana_> :)
[22:54] <carpii> ﻿i copied some truetype fonts into my WINE fonts folder. I also registered them and can use them in Ubuntu. But Photoshoip in wine isnt picking these new fonts up. Anyone else had this problem?
[22:54] <danub> unrecognized option --:2
[22:54] <momesana_> oh sorry
[22:54] <momesana_> danub: you were right of course
[22:54] <danub> lol
[22:55] <momesana_> X :1 -config /root/xorg.conf.new
[22:55] <danub> ok ill try that one
[22:55] <danub> ok, its loading up
[22:55] <momesana_> Omoikane_: not really. You should ask uncle google. i guess there are some workarounds since this does not seem like a difficult thing to implement. But having two requests withing a few hours should alarm any kubuntu-dev here to do something about that ;)
[22:55] <GGoby> Howdy................
[22:55] <bashbin> hi
[22:55] <momesana_> danub: nice
[22:55] <bashbin> How can I play a movie,  when I have a directory containing  *.bup,  *.ifo and *vob  files?  None of them seems to be playable
[22:56] <Coggz> can anyonen tell me how to set up grub on a fresh machine. I have XP on one partition, and ubuntu 8.10 on a nother
[22:56] <danub> no space left on device?!
[22:56] <momesana_> !hi
[22:56] <danub> wth does that mean?
[22:56] <danub> op out for now
[22:56] <CourtJesterG> !thanks
[22:56] <danub> i will be back on in about 2 hours
[22:56] <danub> thanks for the help so far.
[22:56] <jarrel> hello
[22:56] <CourtJesterG> !ubottu a/s/l?
[22:56] <DaSkreech> Danu:
[22:56] <CourtJesterG> lol
[22:56] <DaSkreech> Curses!!
[22:56] <momesana_> danub: whaaaaaaaaaaat?
[22:56] <momesana_> danub: your partition is full???
[22:56] <GGoby> Coggz: Ummm..if you just install it will setup grub to boot both
[22:56] <momesana_> danub: issue this command: df -h
[22:57] <jjproctor_> hey guys i dount know if u can help me or not but is this the channal for ubuntu 8.10
[22:57] <DaSkreech> jjproctor_: no
[22:57] <Danu> ¿?
[22:57] <bashbin> solved  - vlc works :)
[22:57] <bashbin> thx all
[22:57] <DaSkreech> Danu: Did it again tricky bugger
[22:57] <jjproctor_> how ok thanks
[22:57] <CourtJesterG> !ubuntu
[22:57] <DaSkreech> !gnome
[22:57] <Danu> jaja
[22:57] <GGoby> jjproctor_: This is for Kubuntu....you want to join #ubuntu
[22:57] <Omoikane_> momesana_ Yeah, myself and a friend have been having the same issue and been working with google for the last few week.
[22:57] <CourtJesterG> #ubuntu
[22:58] <GGoby> !samba
[22:58] <CourtJesterG> !virus
[22:58] <Coggz> GGoby: ah, thanks
[22:59] <CourtJesterG> a/v/ i think is better then mcfree virus it find worms so much better and trojans i used to run both
[22:59] <CourtJesterG> even norton can't find half the stuff mcfree and a/v finds
[22:59] <GGoby> Coggz: NP...after you install you can change the names and how long to display the options before it automatically boots into the default system...you can also set XP as the default system to boot into
[22:59] <momesana__> got disconnected again. I haaaaaaaate dialup
[22:59] <CourtJesterG> one reason i came to linux
[22:59] <dr_willis> somd days i think Nortons IS a virus...
[22:59] <dr_willis> :P
[23:00] <GGoby> dr
[23:00] <GGoby> dr_willis: A insidious one at that...lol
[23:01] <CourtJesterG> oh though we could say microsoft puts virus delays to run in there own updates as easter eggs then to help the other software company make money they all mad a deal in secret so everyone keeps buying all this software its a big cycle scheme
[23:01] <momesana__> DaSkreech: if you are still around when danub turns up could you please tell him to backup his /etc/X11/xorg.conf and replace it with the newly created one and to finetune the file afterwards to suit his needs? he should specifically check to see if the driver in Section "Device" is "Intel" and so on. Well you guys will take care of him :)
[23:02] <DaSkreech> dr_willis: It is a virus
[23:03] <DaSkreech> momesana__: I'm leaving in 15 minutes
[23:03] <GGoby> Has anyone gone through the wiki on setting up Samba server to mount windows shares permanently?
[23:03] <momesana__> DaSkreech: oh :(. I'll also be leavin soon. It's already 02:35 here.
[23:04] <DaSkreech> It's 6:00 here
[23:04] <jarrel> how do i check to see if my wireless card drivers is installed
[23:04] <momesana__> DaSkreech: AM or PM?
[23:04] <CourtJesterG> how do i ddefragment my hard drive?
[23:05] <GGoby> Oh yeah..anyone tell me how to get to the clock settings to change the time format to 12 hour?
[23:05] <DaSkreech> momesana__: Does it matter? :)
[23:05] <CourtJesterG> =)
[23:05] <DaSkreech> CourtJesterG: Good luck with that
[23:05] <momesana__> DaSkreech: not really. but I was wondering whether you are going to bed or have been standing up very early
[23:05] <CourtJesterG> i think my northbridge fan is failing though it is kinda loud but not needed really
[23:07] <GGoby> clear
[23:08] <CourtJesterG> ok so when i did my first reinstall aafter i switched out my 40 pin ide cable for 80 found out my cd/rewrite is coming up as a faulty drive
[23:09] <CourtJesterG> i finished the instaall in the desktop runnin glive even tryed cleaning the drive with a lens cleaner now if this didn't fix the problem i need to lower the speed how i do that?
[23:10] <CourtJesterG> no its still not working
[23:11] <CourtJesterG> !cd/rewrite
[23:11] <CourtJesterG> whats the chat room for bot commands?
[23:11] <DaSkreech> !brun
[23:11] <DaSkreech> !burn
[23:11] <DaSkreech> !bot
[23:12] <CourtJesterG> !no it just not about burning its not even reading a disk i have it on master and my cd/rom on slave i whiched them to see if it would make a difference it did in that it shows
[23:12] <DaSkreech> heh
[23:13] <CourtJesterG> !#rooms
[23:15] <DaSkreech> CourtJesterG: What are you looking for?
[23:17] <jarrel> am looking for a good p2p
[23:18] <CourtJesterG> !kde
[23:19] <CourtJesterG> !drives
[23:20] <Omoikane_> anyone have any experience with broken mute buttons?
[23:23] <CourtJesterG> !foo is <reply> bar
[23:23] <CourtJesterG> !foo
[23:23] <CourtJesterG> {{{!foo is foo !foo is also bar}}}
[23:24] <CourtJesterG> !bar is <alias> foo
[23:24] <deiwi> HI everyone
[23:24] <deiwi> Hola a toooos
[23:25] <DaSkreech> !hi
[23:25] <CourtJesterG> #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:26] <CourtJesterG> #kubuntu_offtopic
[23:26] <deiwi> esto es solo de soporte?
[23:26] <deiwi> this is only 4 support??
[23:28] <CourtJesterG> #ubuntu-virt
[23:30] <GGoby> Ok I am following setting up Samba server and am at the point where I need to edit fstab...I don't understand what in the smb.conf file gives the smb server it's name?
[23:30] <CourtJesterG> #kubuntu-kde4
[23:31] <CourtJesterG> #kubuntu-devel
[23:32] <CourtJesterG> kubuntu-de
[23:32] <CourtJesterG> #kubuntu-de
[23:33] <carpii> GGoby, its the second parameter which specifies the mount point
[23:33] <carpii> like this
[23:33] <carpii> //ARIZONA/C /mnt/arizona smbfs username=Administrator,password=XXXXXX
[23:33] <DrX> anyone know how to fix "Insufficient privilege fo the file" "Unable to set the short 8.3 name" "The system call level is not correct" on some files and "Unable to write data" and "Access is denied" errors on about 200,000 of 300,000 files being restored from a Windows XP NTBackup to a Linux server?
[23:34] <GGoby> carpii: Ok...is there not a default servername for the default install of smbfs?
[23:34] <carpii> what do you mean. the smbfs is used to access a remote samba share
[23:35] <carpii> if youre trying to connect to another linux machine, you should probably use nfs
[23:35] <CourtJesterG> !nfs
[23:35] <carpii> ARIZONA in the example i pasted above. is the name of the windows server on my LAN
[23:35] <GGoby> carpii: In smb.conf you specify the server name...then when connecting from windows it will list this name
[23:35] <CourtJesterG> !error16
[23:36] <CourtJesterG> !error 16
[23:36] <CourtJesterG> *smack
[23:36] <carpii> i dont understand what youre trying to do. You set the samba share up in windows generally
[23:36] <carpii> and there you can name it whatever you want
[23:36] <CourtJesterG> !infobot
[23:37] <CourtJesterG> why the heck not
[23:37] <carpii> or are you trying to share a directory from linux so your windows machine can access it ?
[23:37] <CourtJesterG> *smack
[23:37] <CourtJesterG> #infobot
[23:38] <CourtJesterG> whats the room to type in bot commands so i am not disturbing the chat room?
[23:40] <Omoikane_> anyone have any experience with broken mute buttons?
[23:40] <CourtJesterG> !gay what is gayness it is being happy sometimes people get to happy and make it a life style a fetish of sorts do what you want but it still doesn't fit properly nor is natrual in the point of child birth
[23:40] <Ash-Fox> How on Earth does someone
[23:41] <Ash-Fox> How on Earth does someone group taskbar items together in KDE4?
[23:41] <CourtJesterG> !kick
[23:41] <CourtJesterG> !banned
[23:41] <CourtJesterG> !admin
[23:41] <CourtJesterG> !admitt
[23:41] <CourtJesterG> !programmer
[23:42] <CourtJesterG> !program
[23:42] <CourtJesterG> i can't spell
[23:42] <CourtJesterG> !dos
[23:42] <CourtJesterG> !microsoft
[23:42] <CourtJesterG> lol
[23:42] <CourtJesterG> ok let me go its too funny
[23:43] <CourtJesterG> #CourtJesterG
[23:43] <CourtJesterG> NOS ERIOUSLY WHATS THAT CHAT ROOM
[23:43] <Ash-Fox> !askthebot | CourtJesterG
[23:45] <fehrp> flashplayer-nonfree gives me in konqueror a white image where the flash part should be. I have every menupoints when I rightclick, but no video nor sound. kde 4.12, kubuntu 8.10, flashplugin accordingly
[23:45] <Ash-Fox> Seriously, how on Earth does someone group taskbar items together in KDE4, like in KDE3?
[23:46] <Ash-Fox> !flashplugin-nonfree | fehrp
[23:46] <Ash-Fox> fehrp, the package is called flashplugin-nonfree
[23:47] <fehrp> Ash-Fox: i know
[23:47] <Ash-Fox> You need to install that, not 'flashplayer'
[23:47] <fehrp> yes i know
[23:47] <Ash-Fox> flashplayer-nonfree is not flashplugin-nonfree
[23:47] <fehrp> Ash-Fox: already did that, I just wrote it wrong here on irc
[23:48] <Ash-Fox> fehrp, it works here, but I installed flash by installing kubuntu-restricted-extras initially.
[23:48] <fehrp> as said: it seems to load, but I don't get to see the flash, only a white space instead where i can rightclick and the flash menu stuff comes up
[23:48] <CourtJesterG> note i've gotten all plugin installed i did and guess what for some reason still couldn't get into yoville from myspace and faccebook just trying to clickont he start did nothing
[23:48] <fehrp> Ash-Fox: I tried that, too, before
[23:48] <fehrp> same issue
[23:48] <CourtJesterG> i worked on that for a week and still a no go
[23:49] <CourtJesterG> everything else showed
[23:49] <CourtJesterG> something is bad in a plugin and not right
[23:53] <Ash-Fox> http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=9C7YzqTtFXU& works for me, http://ash-fox.quickfox.org/temp/flashtest
[23:54] <valantis> hello does anyone know how i can bring back my top toolbar because suddendly has disappeared?
[23:54] <fehrp> Ash-Fox: when I go with the resticted-extras and not the plugin-nonfree I don't even get the white square
[23:54] <fehrp> the flash part is just disappeared
[23:54]  * Ash-Fox shrugs
[23:55] <jhutchins_wk> valantis: Right-click on desktop, configure desktop?
[23:55] <jhutchins_wk> valantis: Which top toolbar?  What app?
[23:55] <valantis> yes i have tryed
[23:55] <Ash-Fox> fehrp, I can't replicate your problem.
[23:55] <Ash-Fox> fehrp, even on a clean install in vmware.
[23:55] <valantis> the top top with maximize minimize etc etc
[23:55] <jhutchins_wk> KDE4?
[23:55] <valantis> the basic toolbar in every window
[23:55] <DarkSmoke> lol
[23:56] <DarkSmoke> window manager
[23:56] <jhutchins_wk> valantis: Which version of KDE?
[23:56] <DarkSmoke> open the run command dialog
[23:56] <DarkSmoke> and run kwin --replace
[23:56] <DarkSmoke> it should be back
[23:56] <fehrp> Ash-Fox: ... any hints for debugging?
[23:56] <DarkSmoke> or open konsole  and do: kwin --replace &
[23:56] <valantis> i am confused i have change it from gnome to kde
[23:57] <valantis> and doesnt appears my kde session
[23:57] <DarkSmoke> you made the best change of your life
[23:57] <Ash-Fox> fehrp, you could run konqueror from konsole with --nofork, and check for any errors that popup
[23:57] <valantis> ty but still trying to change it
[23:57] <jhutchins_wk> DarkSmoke: Except for kwin crashing all the time.
[23:57] <DarkSmoke> kwin crashing?
[23:57] <DarkSmoke> it never crashed for me :|
[23:58] <jhutchins_wk> DarkSmoke: I tried 4 on 2008.1, it was constantly loosing the decorations.
[23:58] <DarkSmoke> you must be giving drugs to your kwin jhutchins
[23:58] <fehrp> http://pastebin.com/m5ef7b0cd when visiting a flash page
[23:58] <DarkSmoke> 2008.1? whats that?
[23:58] <DarkSmoke> gentoo?
[23:58] <jhutchins_wk> That would be Mandriva 2008 Spring.
[23:59] <DarkSmoke> oh
[23:59] <jhutchins_wk> AKA latest working version of Mandriva.
[23:59] <jhutchins_wk> Good grief, I'm completely loosing track of which window I'm in, sorry.
[23:59] <jhutchins_wk> I think it's time to call it a day.