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matsubara#startmeeting15:00
MootBotMeeting started at 09:00. The chair is matsubara.15:00
MootBotCommands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE]15:00
matsubaraWelcome to this week's Launchpad Production Meeting. For the next 45 minutes or so, we'll be coordinating the resolution of specific Launchpad bugs and issues.15:00
matsubara[TOPIC] Roll Call15:00
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sinzuime15:00
gmbme15:00
gmb(in for intellectronica)15:00
henninge_me15:00
flacosteme15:00
bigjoolsme15:00
Ursinhaerm15:01
Ursinhame?15:01
mrevellme15:01
matsubarastub, herb, henninge?15:01
stubme15:01
matsubararockstar: ?15:01
henninge_me!15:01
herbme15:01
rockstarme15:01
rockstarSorry, was ill yesterday, still not at 1[[%15:01
rockstar100%15:01
matsubaraall right, everyone is here15:02
matsubara[TOPIC] Agenda15:02
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matsubara * Next meeting15:02
matsubara * Actions from last meeting15:02
matsubara * Oops report & Critical Bugs15:02
matsubara * Operations report (mthaddon/herb/spm)15:02
matsubara * DBA report (DBA contact)15:02
matsubaraso next meeting, same time next week?15:02
matsubaraI guess that's a yes15:03
matsubaraall right15:03
matsubara[topic] * Actions from last meeting15:03
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matsubara* rockstar to work with beuno re: critical loggerhead (bug 156453)15:03
ubottuLaunchpad bug 156453 in loggerhead "production loggerhead branch leaks memory" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/15645315:03
matsubararockstar: any news about that one?15:03
rockstarmatsubara, working on it.15:03
Ursinha+115:03
rockstarI don't think it's something that's going to happen overnight.15:04
Ursinharockstar, is it really critical?15:04
rockstarUrsinha, well, yes.15:04
matsubararockstar: any eta?15:05
rockstarI bet the LOSAs think it's psat Critical.15:05
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henningeme again15:05
rockstarmatsubara, until we're sure what the problem is, I can't give you an ETA.15:05
matsubararockstar: or can you give us regular status report on the bug report itself? critical bugs shouldn't be left like nobody is looking at them15:06
* herb definitely thinks it's critical.15:06
herbparticularly since I got a page about it right before the meeting. :)15:06
rockstarmatsubara, I don't really have much to report on it.15:06
rockstarIt's easy to make it leak memory, it's hard to see where it is leaking memory.15:07
Ursinharockstar, nothing, like partial reports, what are you guys thinking to do15:07
Ursinha?15:07
Ursinhaoh15:07
Ursinhasee15:07
matsubararockstar: by looking at the report it seems that it's been stuck since 2008-11-0615:07
rockstarmatsubara, I can put "Still working on this" every once in a while.  I just don't have specifics, unfortunately.15:08
matsubararight15:08
rockstarOkay, I'll do that.15:09
matsubarathanks rockstar15:09
matsubara[TOPIC]  * Oops report & Critical Bugs15:09
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* matsubara hands the mic to Ursinha 15:10
Ursinhaok15:10
Ursinhamics make me nervous15:10
* bigjools waits for the Karaoke15:10
Ursinhahave two bugs and one timeout15:10
Ursinhamatsubara's bug: 30032015:11
Ursinhaargh15:11
Ursinhabug 30032015:11
ubottuLaunchpad bug 300320 in launchpad-foundations "mailman oops directory permission keep getting reset" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/30032015:11
matsubarathat's not critical but it's blocking our work15:11
Ursinhaso the bot isn't here15:11
matsubaraI've asked herb to fix the permission15:11
Ursinhahahaha15:11
Ursinhaok15:11
Ursinhaso matsubara filed this one15:11
matsubarabut we need to find out what's resetting the permission every once in a while15:12
herbmatsubara: trying to do some debugging on that, but will reset the permissions after the meeting.15:12
Ursinhamatsubara, indeed, just got one of these before the meeting15:12
matsubarathanks herb. let me know any news on the report please15:12
matsubaraflacoste: I'm not sure that's a foundations or registry issue, btw15:12
Ursinhaok15:12
sinzuiBug 300183 is critical. I just made it critical15:13
ubottuBug 300183 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/300183 is private15:13
flacostematsubara: registry15:13
Ursinhathe other is for bugs, bug 30032415:13
ubottuLaunchpad bug 300324 in malone "Bug 297388 OOPSing because had its 0 comment deleted" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/30032415:13
* Ursinha kicks ubottu 15:13
flacostesinzui: you are aware of bug 300320?15:13
ubottuLaunchpad bug 300320 in launchpad-foundations "mailman oops directory permission keep getting reset" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/30032015:13
matsubaraflacoste: I'll re-assign and coordinate with barry and sinzui then if it's a code or LP config problem. thanks15:13
Ursinhait's the bug regarding that bug that had its comment 0 deleted accidentally15:13
gmbUrsinha: I've just triaged that one.15:13
gmbThe simple fix is to delete all of bug 297388's subscribers15:14
ubottuError: Could not parse data returned by Launchpad: HTTP Error 500: Internal Server Error (https://launchpad.net/bugs/297388/+text)15:14
gmband to mark it private15:14
gmbhush, ubottu15:14
sinzuiflacoste: I saw it today. I believed it related install problem that is bug 30018315:14
ubottuBug 300183 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/300183 is private15:14
gmbDoing that will make it invisible, to all intents and purposes.15:14
stubThe OOPS dir permissions are probably being reset by rsync, so the fix is to ensure permissions are set correctly on forster or to tell rsync to make everything locally world readable15:14
Ursinhagmb, thanks, it's really annoying and I'm just waiting for some nice bugs guy to solve that for us15:14
gmbUrsinha: Ultimately we want to fix bug 29741115:15
ubottuLaunchpad bug 297411 in malone "Delete a given bug" [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/29741115:15
Ursinhahahaha you just caused an oops15:15
gmbBut it's not easy to do.15:15
* Ursinha kicks ubottu again15:15
matsubarathanks stub.15:15
Ursinhagmb, I saw BjornT 's comment15:15
Ursinhagmb, but for now we need something to stop this bug to oops15:16
stubgmb: If we only hit the red button for spam, we can do it by changing a load of constraints to ON DELETE CASCADE.15:16
Ursinhait's filling the summaries with oopses15:16
gmbUrsinha: Well, hiding it should do that.15:16
gmbBecause veeryone will get "you can't access this bug" eros.15:16
gmbErk.15:16
gmbWaaaay wrong word, there.15:16
gmb*errors15:16
Ursinhagmb, hm15:16
Ursinhagmb, is it the easiest thing to do?15:17
gmbUrsinha: Yes. By far.15:17
gmbThe trouble is that the Bug table has a lot of dependencies15:17
gmbAnd the dependencies also have a lot of dependencies15:17
gmbSo we have to find all the things that might depend upon the Bug record before we can DELETE it.15:18
Ursinhagmb, well, but do you need that when hiding?15:18
Ursinhaconsidering hiding != deleting15:18
gmbUPDATE Bug SET private = True WHERE id = 287411;15:19
gmbDELETE FROM BugSubscription WHERE bug = 297411;15:19
gmb(yes, the first number was wrong)15:19
gmbAnd that should do it.15:19
Ursinhagmb, making it private will prevent privileged people to get the oops?15:19
matsubaragmb: can you add that to LaunchpadProductionStatus page and ask the Losas to run it?15:19
gmbGood question.15:19
gmbmatsubara: Sure.15:20
stubgmb: But we can ignore a lot of the dependencies - if this is spam protection, those dependencies won't exist.15:20
matsubara[action] gmb to add sql to hide bug 297411 as a fix for bug 30032415:20
MootBotACTION received:  gmb to add sql to hide bug 297411 as a fix for bug 30032415:20
ubottuLaunchpad bug 297411 in malone "Delete a given bug" [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/29741115:20
ubottuLaunchpad bug 300324 in malone "Bug 297388 OOPSing because had its 0 comment deleted" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/30032415:20
gmbstub: Is there a way to do a DELETE without Postgres erroring on un-deleted dependenices?15:20
Ursinhaanother oops coming..15:20
matsubarashit, that action is wrong15:21
matsubara[action] gmb to add sql to hide bug 297388 as a fix for bug 30032415:21
MootBotACTION received:  gmb to add sql to hide bug 297388 as a fix for bug 30032415:21
gmbUrsinha: If ubottu listens to its own drivel.15:21
ubottuError: Could not parse data returned by Launchpad: HTTP Error 500: Internal Server Error (https://launchpad.net/bugs/297388/+text)15:21
ubottuError: Could not parse data returned by Launchpad: HTTP Error 500: Internal Server Error (https://launchpad.net/bugs/297388/+text)15:21
gmbDamn.15:21
stubgmb: No, but we can put up with an oops in that case since an admin is hitting the button when they shouldn't15:21
Ursinhaarrrrr15:21
gmbstub: I'm not quite sure that I'm on your wavelength here. Are you talking about a fix for the OOPS Ursinha raised or for bug 297411 in general?15:22
ubottuLaunchpad bug 297411 in malone "Delete a given bug" [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/29741115:22
* gmb avoids another OOPS15:22
stubgmb: Bug deletion in general (so wrong channel I guess)15:22
matsubaraUrsinha: anything else?15:23
gmbstub: Ah right. Yes, let's talk about that elsewhere and not pollute the meeting.15:23
Ursinhathanks gmb :P15:23
matsubaraI think we can discuss the bug deletion bug in the mailing list or whatever. it's not a simple fix anyway15:23
Ursinhamatsubara, I have one timeout oops15:23
UrsinhaOOPS-1055EC4515:23
UrsinhaI'd like someone to take a look on it15:23
Ursinhafew occurrences but high sql time, after the rollout15:24
Ursinhaubottu, I hate you man15:24
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about i hate you man15:24
Ursinhalol15:24
Ursinhahttps://lp-oops.canonical.com/oops.py/?oopsid=OOPS-1055EC4515:24
matsubarasinzui: ^15:24
matsubaracan you take a look?15:25
UrsinhaI have an incredible lag today15:25
sinzuiyuck15:26
flacostematsubara: could you make the left pane on that page viewport fixed (so that it is always available wherever you are on the oops)?15:26
flacostematsubara: the oops report page i mean15:26
Ursinhaflacoste, good idea15:26
matsubaraflacoste: yeah, got that. will do15:26
matsubaraflacoste: and thanks for the suggestion :-)15:26
matsubara[action] ursinha to file a bug about OOPS-1055EC45 and coordinate with Registry to get it fixed15:27
Ursinhathis is all from me15:27
MootBotACTION received:  ursinha to file a bug about OOPS-1055EC45 and coordinate with Registry to get it fixed15:27
matsubaralet's move on then15:28
matsubarathanks Ursinha and everyone else15:28
matsubara[topic] * Operations report (mthaddon/herb/spm)15:28
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sinzuimatsubara: flacoste I can pass this to Edwin because I think he has  day for this.15:28
herb 2008-11-19: Rolled out r7316 to production.15:28
herb- Bugs #118625 and #156453 continue to be a problem causing us to restart codebrowse on a number of ocassions this week. As we discussed earlier.15:28
ubottuLaunchpad bug 118625 in launchpad-bazaar "codebrowse sometimes hangs" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/11862515:28
herb- We can probably mark bug #247227 as Fix Released since the app servers have been stable for several weeks now.15:28
ubottuLaunchpad bug 156453 in loggerhead "production loggerhead branch leaks memory" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/15645315:28
ubottuBug 247227 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/247227 is private15:28
herb- Do we have a decision on if/when there will be a re-roll?15:28
Ursinhathanks guys15:28
matsubarathanks sinzui15:28
matsubaraUrsinha: add that the report ^ :-)15:28
matsubaras/the/to the/15:28
Ursinhamatsubara, will do15:29
matsubaraherb: I talk to kiko about it today and let you know15:29
matsubaraabout the re-roll I mean15:29
herbmatsubara: ok15:29
UrsinhaI'll ask him to join15:29
kiko-fudyes dears15:30
Ursinha<herb> - Do we have a decision on if/when there will be a re-roll?15:30
kiko-fudtonight 22:00 UTC if at all15:30
kiko-fudI have spoken15:30
matsubaracool. thanks kiko-fud15:30
Ursinhaok, great15:31
matsubarathanks herb15:31
Ursinhathanks kiko-fud15:31
matsubara[topic] * DBA report (DBA contact)15:31
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herbthanks Ursinha, matsubara, kiko-fud15:31
herbet al15:31
* matsubara hands the mic to stub 15:31
stubOur replica production database built happily, and maintaining the replica does not seem to be adding noticable load. My worries about diskspace where thankfully unfounded.15:31
stubWe may find that chokecherry's load is too high when we start the appservers using the replica during staging rebuilds. If this turns out to be the case, we have the choice of not using the replica or moving staging somewhere else.15:31
stuboot15:31
matsubarastub: and the plan is to have that on production next cycle?15:33
stubIts just a config change - we can switch it on whenever.15:33
matsubaracool.15:34
stubI've got a branch prepared with the config changes and kiko knows already15:34
matsubaraUrsinha: ^ got your answer for waht you asked me yesterday? :-015:34
matsubara:-)15:34
matsubaragreat15:34
Ursinhamatsubara, yes :)15:34
matsubarathanks stub15:34
matsubaraanything else before I close?15:34
flacostematsubara: i'll land that branch15:35
Ursinhathanks matsubara and statik15:35
Ursinhaerrr15:35
Ursinhaand stub15:35
Ursinhasorry statik15:35
matsubaraThank you all for attending this week's Launchpad Production Meeting. See the channel topic for the location of the logs.15:35
matsubara#endmeeting15:35
MootBotMeeting finished at 09:35.15:35
rockstarThanks matsubara15:35
Ursinhathanks matsubara15:35
Ursinhathanks guys15:36
henningethanks Ursinha, don't forget to turn off the mic! ;)15:36
Ursinhahenninge, :D15:36
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