[00:56] <bucket529> Could somebody please change bug 246506 from 'undecided' to 'wishlist'?
[00:58] <nhandler> bucket529: It is already wishlist
[00:58] <bdmurray> nhandler: sorry I got it w/o saying anything
[00:59] <nhandler> bdmurray: No problem.
[00:59] <bucket529> bdmurray, nhandler: Thanks.
[01:14] <bucket529> Could somebody please change bug 271351 from 'undecided' to 'wishlist'? (It's 'Incomplete' because I asked the submitter if he plans to submit his PPA package to REVU)
[01:21] <nhandler> bucket529: Done
[06:14] <dholbach> good morning
[06:14]  * persia hunts for Jignesh Borad
[06:21] <Hobbsee> bug 5
[06:21] <Hobbsee> hrm.
[06:54] <arpi> Hi I have installed 8.10 with wubi strangely DVD playback, rhythmbox visualization and totem visualisation are all jerky. (I have all the necessary codecs for dvd) Has anybody ideas?
[06:56] <nellery> arpi: #ubuntu for support please
[06:58] <arpi> ok
[07:00] <smoothtexan> hey everyone
[07:00] <persia> hey smoothtexan.
[07:00] <smoothtexan> i need some help with bug 275345
[07:01] <smoothtexan> hey thats cool
[07:01] <persia> Hmm.  I get a mount for /dev/mmcblk01p1 locally.
[07:02] <smoothtexan> yeah it mounts it, but if you  do a fdisk -l it doesnt show up for whatever reason
[07:02] <smoothtexan> oh wait
[07:02] <persia> Ah, I see.
[07:02] <persia> Annoying that.
[07:03] <smoothtexan> yeah...therefore you cant use gparted to partition it
[07:03] <smoothtexan> which is crap when you trying to get ext3 on it
[07:04] <smoothtexan> anyways, there have been several people confirm the bug in the ticket, so what is the next step?
[07:06] <smoothtexan> anyone?
[07:07] <persia> Need to track down the specific problem.
[07:07] <persia> Why isn't it available.
[07:08] <smoothtexan> ok...i was hoping to hand it off to someone, because i have no idea what to do...
[07:08] <persia> I'm wondering if it's because the storage adaptor is inside the SD card, rather than being fixed.
[07:12] <smoothtexan> well, the ticket shows that there are a bunch of other people having the same problem, so i dont think that is just my card if thats what you're saying
[07:12] <persia> No, it's the architecture of it.
[07:12] <persia> See, an SD slot is like a PCI slot.
[07:13] <persia> When you insert a storage card, it's like inserting a SATA card which is already attached to a drive.
[07:13] <smoothtexan> ah
[07:13] <persia> What I'm wondering is if the kernel doesn't handle hotplug of storage interfaces well.
[07:14] <smoothtexan> the last guy who commented said that it worked hardy
[07:14] <smoothtexan> but not in gutsy
[07:14] <smoothtexan> i mean
[07:14] <persia> You wouldn't see this for USB, because USB storage has special quirks.  You also wouldn't see it for SATA or PATA or SCSI, because very few people have real hotplug interfaces for those, or regularly try to use them.
[07:14] <smoothtexan> intrepid
[07:16] <smoothtexan> im going to make a post in the forums and see what happens
[07:17] <persia> Good idea.  It just needs someone with understanding of the internals, and the right hardware to track it down.  If it's working in hardy but not intrepid, it's worth adding the "regression" tag.
[07:19] <smoothtexan> cool, thanks for your help man, i throw a regression tag on it and post in the forums
[07:19] <smoothtexan> i'll*
[07:20] <persia> There's also a wiki page about handling kernel bugs.
[07:22] <persia> smoothtexan, You might try following https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeamBugPolicies to make sure the right team is notified, which may help.
[07:22] <smoothtexan> ok...so you think it a kernel bug then...
[07:22] <smoothtexan> i didn
[07:23] <smoothtexan> i didnt think it was because it was working in hardy under the same kernel...but i really dont know much about it
[07:23] <smoothtexan> =P
[07:24] <persia> huh?
[07:24] <persia> hardy and intrepid have different kernel versions.
[07:24] <smoothtexan> well there you go
[07:25] <smoothtexan> see i told you
[07:25] <persia> 2.6.24 vs. 2.6.27
[07:25] <smoothtexan> ok
[07:25] <persia> If kernelspace is known fine, the kernel team can probably kick it to the right userspace program.
[07:26] <smoothtexan> how do i add a tag to a ticket...sorry im new to the whole bug tracking process
[07:27] <persia> There should be a pencil icon to "edit description/tags" near the top.
[07:29] <smoothtexan> got it
[08:09] <thekorn> good morning
[08:09] <Hobbsee> hey thekorn!
[08:09] <thekorn> hi Hobbsee!
[09:38] <xteejx> Hey guys :) Can someone set bug 296671 to confirmed for me please, someone else has found the same bug. Thanks
[11:27] <mok0> zzzz
[11:28] <persia> Well, say something interesting then, and people will awaken
[11:29] <mok0> zzzz... what?
[11:29] <persia> See :)
[11:29] <persia> Dunno.  Which bug are you working on?
[11:30] <persia> Personally, I was glad to see the submitter of bug #159905 come back and say it was fixed in intrepid.
[11:30] <mok0> Oh, I'm working on a whole bunch of bugs associated with torque
[11:30] <persia> But then, I'm mostly catching up on mail now, rather than chasing bugs.  Lots of this is bugmail, but that's incidental.
[11:31] <persia> Cool!  Package-specific review is always fun.
[11:32] <mok0> There's pride in it too... I maintain the package :-)
[11:32] <mok0> ... and I want my bug counts to be zero...
[12:14] <DarkKnight> hey i always wanted to know how i can learn the coding and fix bugs to improve launchpad....can anyone tell me where to start from
[12:15] <persia> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/HowToFix is one place that covers some of that.
[12:15] <persia> My suggestion would be to find a bug, and try to track down what causes it by reading the code.
[12:16] <persia> You'll learn a lot about the language by trying to read it, and it's often more fun to start with investigation than to learn how to write "Hello World".
[12:17] <DarkKnight> persia; okk...ya i just started that resently; i wanted 2 start understanding how each code could work for the system
[12:32] <DarkKnight> persia; there r different files in different directories...which i dont even know....do i have to go through something like system administration??
[12:33] <persia> DarkKnight, I'm in a meeting now, but if you've a specific bug, and a specific package, I can spend some time looking at it with you in a while (maybe 45 minutes).
[12:33] <persia> Generally there's a Makefile or setup.py or something that explains how the source code is converted into the program, which can help you track things down.
[12:34] <DarkKnight> persia; yes i do have a bug...but i m not specifying that i want 2 learn how to fix only my bug...i just wanted to explore into this....
[12:35] <DarkKnight> persia; and not only that I read somewhere that if we have to get into the development team; we have to fix bugs
[12:35] <persia> DarkKnight, Right.  I think it's best to learn by doing, so if you've an example, we can look at that, and you can use that same procedure on the next one.
[12:35] <DarkKnight> persia; my bug is at  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/299007
[12:36] <DarkKnight> persia; my bug is posted at  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/299007
[12:37] <persia> OK.  When I'm free, we can look at it.  Download the source in advance.
[13:37] <persia> DarkKnight, Sorry.  Took longer than I expected.  I'm grabbing the source now.  You still have time?
[13:59] <DarkKnight> ya
[13:59] <DarkKnight> persia; ya
[13:59] <persia> DarkKnight, Unfortunately, I've another meeting just starting in a few seconds (Thursdays are meeting days for me).
[14:00] <DarkKnight> persia; no probs;;
[14:00] <BUGabundo> is this depency prob interessing to any one ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/74770/
[14:00] <DarkKnight> persia; shall we meet on saturday or sunday
[14:00] <persia> DarkKnight, Saturday probably works for me.  Depending on your timezone, Sunday might not.
[14:01] <DarkKnight> persia; wat's ur country
[14:03] <persia> DarkKnight, I'm in UTC+9
[14:05] <DarkKnight> UTC??
[14:05] <DarkKnight> mine is GMT+5:30
[14:06] <persia> In that case, Saturday, or Sunday evening works for me.
[14:07] <DarkKnight> wats UTC.......
[14:16] <angusthefuzz> GMT=UTC=Coordinated Universal Time
[14:16] <nhandler> angusthefuzz: Isn't that only true for part of the year?
[14:17] <persia> nhandler, No, it's true about once every 9 years.  The rest of the time GMT can differ from UTC by almost a second.
[14:17] <angusthefuzz> nhandler: not according to wiki?
[14:19] <angusthefuzz> to quote: "For most common and legal-trade purposes, the fractional second difference between UTC and UT (GMT) is inconsequentially small, so UTC is often called GMT"
[14:19] <DarkKnight> persia; so i think u r in the eastern asia;
[14:21] <nhandler> angusthefuzz: Ok, I thought they had a larger difference between them for part of the year.
[14:27] <krychek> geez: bug 300298
[14:27] <krychek> holocaust jokes..
[14:28] <Pici> ugh
[14:50] <bddebian> Boo
[14:51] <jjesse> don't cry i didn't mean to scare you :)
[14:51] <bddebian> :)
[14:53]  * persia suspects a new scaring tactic is required.  The bugs may have come to expect "Boo" and know that means it's feeding time.
[14:53] <jjesse> lol
[15:36] <bucket529> seb128: In bug 280325, who is your final comment meant for?
[15:39] <seb128> bucket529: whoever reported the bug
[15:39] <bucket529> seb128: That makes more sense, thanks.
[15:40] <seb128> bucket529: having several issues listed through the comment doesn't make the bug easier to read or work on
[15:40] <seb128> bucket529: I try to focus on the bug initially described usually, if there is an another issue that should be a new bug
[15:41] <bucket529> seb128: That's why I asked.
[15:42] <seb128> bucket529: I've added a new comment to clarify
[15:43] <bucket529> seb128: Say, that's much clearer.
[15:44] <seb128> I've be cleaning quite some bugs and tried to be quick but right the previous one was not really clear ;-)
[17:40] <thekorn> calc, hi, where should user report bugs against the openoffice3 PPA package?
[17:40] <thekorn> does ~openoffice-pkgs have a ML for this or something?
[18:07] <calc> thekorn: report via regular way, using Help->Report a Bug, so it gets all the apport information
[18:10] <bdmurray> calc: then they'll be mixed in with the other openoffice bugs right?
[18:12] <beDrung> bdmurray: ping
[18:13] <bdmurray> Hello
[18:13] <bdrung> i wrote you yesterday that my membership in ubuntu-bugcontrol expires, but lp was down
[18:16] <bdmurray> bdrung: right, thanks for the reminder
[18:22] <thekorn> calc, ok, but how do I indicate that this bug is related to the PPA package and not the one in the ubuntu repos
[18:23] <angusthefuzz> nice
[18:23] <angusthefuzz> (sorry, wrong window)
[18:24] <bdrung> bdmurray: thx
[18:27] <bdmurray> bdrung: thank you for helping out!
[18:29] <calc> bdmurray: yea but 3.0 is going into jaunty asap anyway so its not too big of an issue
[18:30] <calc> thekorn: you can add [ppa] to the beginning of the report if you want, but the apport information also helps to make that somewhat obvious at least
[18:30] <calc> thekorn: actually adding something like [ppa] at the beginning of the subject line would be helpful
[18:30]  * calc is trying to get jaunty working enough to even compile OOo
[18:30] <calc> seems to be in a lot of churn still
[18:50] <thekorn> calc, thank you
[20:58] <linkmaster03> is it really supposed to take 18 days for anyone to respond to my bug report on launchpad
[20:59] <hggdh> linkmaster03, it may -- we depend heavily on free contributors
[20:59] <hggdh> what bug is it?
[20:59] <linkmaster03> i know everyone is volunteers i'm grateful, just wondering: 292728
[20:59] <hggdh> bug 292728
[21:00] <linkmaster03> someone marked it as new then i've had no activity since then
[21:00] <hggdh> it is automatically masked as new when you file it
[21:00] <linkmaster03> oh
[21:01] <linkmaster03> i thought it started at undecided
[21:01] <hggdh> on bugzilla, yes, not on launchpad
[21:01] <hggdh> but yes, I can confirm it
[21:02] <linkmaster03> so should i just keep waiting?
[21:02] <hggdh> yes... I will confirm it, but I am not sure of what additional data may be required.
[21:03] <hggdh> I am not sure it should be assigned to the Canonical kernel team though
[21:03] <linkmaster03> i couldn't find a gnome team
[21:03] <linkmaster03> ok unassigned
[21:04] <linkmaster03> thanks for confirming
[21:04] <hggdh> it is better in this case to leave it unassigned... also, we have to find a package for it
[21:04] <linkmaster03> yeah i didn't have a clue as where to find the package
[21:04] <linkmaster03> since it was in the intrepid upgrade with tons of updates
[21:10] <RAOF> hggdh, linkmaster03: I seem to remember that behaivour previously was due to a consolekit bug.
[21:11] <hggdh> RAOF, I will reassign it to consolekit, then, thanks. A regression?
[21:12] <RAOF> I think so.  Searching the consolekit bugs will likely net you either a fix released bug or an open duplicate with the same behaviour.
[21:13] <hggdh> will look, thanks
[21:14] <hggdh> yay, bingo. bug 271962
[21:14] <hggdh> will set as a duplicate -- linkmaster03, that's for you
[21:17] <linkmaster03> hggdh: thanks!
[21:17] <hggdh> welcome, linkmaster03 . Sometimes we need a bit of a shove ;-)