[00:09] is there a live version of xubuntu for usb? (I am not asking about installing xubuntu from a cd to usb) [00:27] while installing debianxfce, i didnot formatted the old home partition of xubuntu, now is there a way to get rid of the configuration left from xubuntu? [00:27] Gazali, sure..... [00:28] how [00:28] Gazali, delete the .conf folder in your home directory, log out and back in again [00:28] allright [00:28] thanks [00:29] when you log back in, the default .conf folder will be written automatically [00:29] well is it hidden [00:29] infact, you can delete all the .[folders] [00:30] the only hidden files you need are: [00:31] .bashrc, .bash_history, .bashlogout, and .Xauthority [00:32] (so far as i know [00:32] ok do i need to keep any of the files under /home [00:32] just the ones i stated [00:33] ok [00:37] thank you very much vidd [00:37] everythings fien now [00:37] fine\ [00:38] =] [00:38] simple stuff [00:38] ok 1 more thing [00:38] you may help me [00:38] ask away [00:38] i have this useless debian folder in xfces "start menu" [00:38] :D [00:38] how do i get rid of it [00:39] what is in the folder? [00:39] almost everything is duplicated [00:40] dunno....sounds like a debian thing [00:40] there 4 folders under it one of em is applications and it has all the apps. [00:40] i just want to delete it from the menu [00:40] if possible [00:40] of course [00:41] you would have to delete all of its content... [00:41] can you paste a screenshot somewhere so i know what your talking about? [00:41] allright [00:42] erm how do i take the screenshot :D [00:42] ummmm dunno =] [00:43] ok i managed [00:46] http://img136.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotzk0.png [00:49] http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/8418/screenshotzk0.png [00:53] Gazali, how'd you do it? I use imagemagick and/or scrot [00:53] im having issues with my repositories, im running xubuntu 8.04. what repositories should i have listed in synaptic? [00:53] Blunted88, pastebin your /etc/apt/source.list [00:54] binarymutant screenshooter plugin (panel) [00:55] how do i do that? [00:55] never used it but sounds cool Gazali [00:55] hmm I have some trouble installing xubuntu on a small (eee-like) laptop [00:55] Blunted88, mousepad /etc/apt/source.list to pastebin.com [00:55] I used unetbootin to load the 8.10 netinstaller on a usb stick and installed xubuntu on that same stick after booting from it [00:56] but after installation it won't boot, the BIOS acts as if the device is not bootable at all. so I figured I'd try to install a bootloader on it from my main computer (mandriva), which half-worked; it now does load grub but I immediately get "error 25" [00:57] internet says it's a 25 : Disk read error\nThis error is returned if there is a disk read error when trying to probe or read data from a particular disk. [00:57] mouse pad? im sory binary [00:58] I don't think it's even trying to access the menu.lst file, but I might be wrong... I have very little experience with grub, especially none with the command line tools needed to modify it, so... I hope somebody can help :/ [00:58] Blunted88, you have xfce? [00:58] yes [00:58] Blunted88, mousepad should be installed with it, I might be wrong though, it's a word processor [00:59] b4|hraban i once installed xubuntu on a usb hard drive but after 4-5 boot it did not again then i give up [00:59] ok [00:59] ok.. ehh... that's... reassuring :P [00:59] Blunted88, and your just copy pasting /etc/apt/source.list into pastebin.com [00:59] if i were you id install grub on a real hd [00:59] err /etc/apt/sources.list ** sorry Blunted88 [01:00] Gazali, I can't, the "real" hd is soaked [01:00] k its on there under blunted88 [01:00] it's a long story but it involves magnets [01:00] i see [01:00] whats the url Blunted88 [01:00] may be you can use a cd to boot :D [01:00] http://pastebin.com/df752ed1 [01:00] Gazali, there is no CD bay [01:01] it's too small (as I said, eee-pc like) [01:01] besides, I know this works, unetbootin makes it work, why can't I... :/ [01:01] ok then you should get a usb drive with write protection ^^ [01:01] Blunted88, looks right, whats the problem? [01:02] Gazali, how will that help...? [01:02] you have a lot of entries though, it might be slow to update [01:02] i believe either at startup or at shotdown, mbr of usb drive goes bad [01:03] wow i've got a lot of entries too...they are the same though [01:04] when i run update manager it tells me that one of the repositories is out dated, maybe its just talking about the update it was attempting [01:05] I thought hardy was still supported... [01:06] Why is it that only my terminal wobbles a littlebit and no other window? [01:10] woo! [01:10] grub command line isn't so bad after all.. [01:10] I installed xyzzybuntu on a 4 gb flash drive yay [01:12] DaveDixonII, compiz? [01:13] Gazali, sorry....i had to go reset a power breaker in the basement [01:13] its ok [01:13] i was able to remove it [01:13] binarymutant: i dont have compiz. D: [01:14] i just left clicked on panel :D [01:14] DaveDixonII, you need compiz for wobbly effects [01:14] Gazali, try building a second user, log into it and see if the menu is the same [01:15] well vidd, xfce uses a default (i dont know where it is) menu layout or uses the one you create [01:16] the one you configure resides at ~/.config/xdg/menus so this is not for everyuser [01:16] has any one gotten a Vontange V-phone to run in on Linux? [01:17] zerothis, ekiga might be able to use the vonage service [01:17] right...so Gazali exactly [01:17] i would be interested in what is diffent [01:19] zerothis, http://www.jpugh.org/2008/01/vonage-and-ekiga-on-suse-linux.html [01:20] vidd if you want to see the menu of another user [01:20] Gazali, just pastebin me your menus file [01:21] then youll need to tell me how to create another user cuz i am new to linux [01:21] allright ill try [01:22] if you are interested in the debian menu [01:22] there is a file menudefs.hook [01:22] which i dont know where [01:22] ill try to paste the menu conf [01:24] but to add a basic user, simply run sudo adduser [01:25] http://rafb.net/p/1QILGD52.html [01:26] question, can anyone help me with a printer? [01:27] Gazali, remove lines 17 and 18 [01:28] newusers comes with the default menu (with debian) [01:29] vidd debian menu is not visible now so [01:29] there is no prblem [01:29] Gazali, removing those lines did it? [01:29] no i had used the menu editor of xfce [01:30] i have to to bed now thank you for your help vidd [01:30] np [01:30] (its 3.29 am here:) [01:30] bye [01:31] sorry to ask, but can someone help me with printer problems? [01:31] brad_, what kind of printer? [01:31] lexmark z715 [01:31] ive tried a few tutorials, but nothings working and i can't figure out why or where i screwed up [01:31] brad_, lexmark's are notoriously linux-hostile [01:32] and yeah, i do know lexmark isn't the most open source... but it's all i got to work with... [01:32] if someone could just help me look for a tutorial i'd appreciate it... [01:36] brad_, try this http://www.backports.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=772161 [01:38] tried this a few times, but i'll give it one more go [01:41] be right back, have to switch to gnome [01:49] ok, so how do i print a test page? [01:49] any idea? [01:49] should be in the print thing [01:49] um print /etc/apt/sources.list? [01:49] *menu [01:50] how would one print sources.list? and there's not an option to do a test page in System-Administration-Printing [01:51] oh I meant open it in a text editor and print something but nvm [01:51] that might be stupid enough to work... [01:52] technically it could be a test page [01:53] ZOMG IT WORKS!!! [01:53] brad_, did you use cups? [01:53] yeah [01:53] thats cool, never used it [01:53] now to try openoffice [01:53] brad_, cups finally has the driver? or did you follow the link i sent ya? [01:54] used the link [01:54] OMG OPENOFFICE WORKS!!! [01:54] sorry for the shouting, i'm so happy... [01:55] thanks vidd for convincing me to try the tutorial again... [01:55] also, does anybody know if there is a way to add more space at the top? [01:57] brad_, i dont really print [01:58] yeah, well, i can fix this later [01:59] also, how would one add this server to the startup list in xchat? [01:59] sorry, i know i'm asking a lot of questions... [01:59] brad_, simply open the xchat->network list menu..... [02:00] when i did that, it didn't load this again on startup [02:00] i'll try one more time... [02:00] highlight the server you configured, and check the "autoconnect" box [02:01] highlight the server you configured, and check the "autoconnect" box [02:01] oh, woops [02:01] thanks [02:01] anyway, got to go, thanks for all of your guys' help [02:04] I installed xfce on my ubuntu laptop, is this the same thing as just installing xubuntu? [02:05] yeah [02:05] Thats what i thought. [02:05] but you probably still have gnome on it dont you? [02:05] im having some troubles with compiz and some other settings as well [02:05] Yeah, I do. [02:06] its real wierd. For a while things were running perfectly, but for some reason now my mouse icon is just the plain X cursor. [02:06] thats the difference between xubuntu and ubuntu [02:06] Thats what i thought. [02:06] So i dont understand where these other issues are arrising from, its not like the filesystem/structure is any different. [02:10] dunno, mine looks the same [02:12] I'm pretty sure that compiz is like it's own window manager, that might be the reason [02:13] and you can change the mouse theme in X too [02:13] Funny enough, when i ran compiz in terminal everything just fixed. I think i might be onto it. [02:14] I think emerald is trying to control the enviornment, might be blocking some changes. I might just need compiz to begin at startup. [02:14] n/m. [02:14] metacity --replace or something like that idk, compiz isn't really my thing [02:15] does xfce use metacity still? i assumed that was gnome only. [02:15] not sure, I thought it did [02:16] My laptop isnt blazing fast, I remembered using xfce on an older one that i have and it was much faster. Obvious speed difference between the two. [02:17] if your looking for speed, compiz is definitely not the way to go [02:19] and I would say dwm is much much much faster than xfce :P [02:19] what is dwm? [02:20] a tiling window manager [02:20] it's very small, like 2kb, and very fast [02:21] Ill have to look into it. Xfce seems to be great on this laptop, however i have an even older one that i might look into it on. [02:21] http://www.suckless.org/wiki/dwm/ <--- not recommended for novices [02:22] their support is terrible though, so it's kinda a give and take [02:22] Gotcha. You say not recommended, whats so difficult about it? [02:23] besides the support? You have to compile it anytime you change something and it's almost featureless [02:24] Oh okay. [02:24] but the trade off is it's blazingly fast [02:26] back in a sec [02:28] now i gotta figure out why it all of a sudden doesnt see an internet connection. [02:28] you still have nm-applet? [02:29] not sure [02:30] Is that network manager? [02:30] ya [02:30] from gnome [02:30] Yes. [02:31] that should work [02:31] And it looks like all is setup correctly still. [02:32] At least, the screen im looking at says 'Network Settings' which i believe is network-manager in gnmoe === K3R is now known as rerobins [02:32] I dunno, it's the applet in the system tray is what i'm talking about [02:34] Actually, no i dont anymore. [02:34] however it was there earlier. [02:35] just type nm-applet in a terminal [02:35] tryed, nothing loaded [02:35] im actually rebooting, ill try again in a sec [02:36] Its wierd that it all worked for a couple of days and then stopped. Guess i did something. [02:36] thx for your help btw [02:36] then...sudo apt-get network-manger-gnome I guess, np [02:36] wont be able to cuz i dont have a connection. [02:36] its on disc probably [02:36] oh okay [02:41] tells me that network-manager-gnome is the newest version [02:41] Using 8.10 with fglrx Driver and running fgl_glxgears gives a white screen then locks up X, any ideas? fgl_glxgears before used to work fine.. [02:43] ill try a wired connectin [02:44] same problem. [02:45] Hi [02:46] Are the experts online for questions? [02:47] Oldbitcollector, ask away [02:47] hopefully someones an expert ';D [02:47] i may not be an expert, but ill try [02:47] thanks / background: was running Ubuntu until my Hdd crashed. Switched to Xubuntu because I like the feel. Got a couple items I'm trying to get straighten the way I want them. [02:48] Little new.. switch from XP a month or so ago. never going back. [02:48] Question 1) How do I add the "Home" icon to the top panel? [02:48] mattgyver83, did you run nm-applet in a terminal? [02:48] binarymutant, yes it never loaded anything [02:48] mattgyver83, scratch that, do this in a terminal " sudo dhclient " [02:49] for wired [02:49] okay. just one second, i want to make sure im not crazy and that all works on a gnome session still. [02:49] if it works in gnome, it'll work in xfce because the tools these gui's use are the same in every window manager [02:50] Okay. So it probably wotn. [02:50] Oldbitcollector, should be able to right-click on desktop and check the box to show desktop icons [02:51] yeah, for some insane reason it stopped working all together, let me get back in xfce [02:51] mattgyver83, i missed your issue [02:52] mattgyver83, try sudo dhclient in a terminal [02:52] for wired [02:52] @vidd: I'd like to add a "launcher" for the "Home" into Panel 1. Not sure I'm following.. [02:52] Oldbitcollector, isnt the "places" applet there already? [02:53] vidd, problems connecting to the internet now after installing xfce on ubuntu (normally running gnome) [02:53] Good point.. [02:53] I can adapt.. [02:53] mattgyver83, dhclient give you an ip? [02:53] about to run it now [02:54] Oldbitcollector, i was thinking desktop...not panel (i mis read) [02:54] Question 2) Anyone running CheckGmail. How can I get this application to load automatically when I log in? [02:54] Oldbitcollector, put it in .xinit [02:54] Oldbitcollector, add it to the "autostarted apps" in the settings manager [02:54] ^ or that [02:55] mattgyver83, how are you conecting? wired or wireless? [02:55] currently wired just for testing, however this machine needs to connect wireless. [02:55] ah. why didn't I see that.. [02:55] binarymutant, i get only internal IP addresses, should i list my external? [02:56] no, you should be connected to the net now mattgyver83 [02:56] it pulls an internal ip [02:56] Yeah, it gives me the correct IP [02:56] and notices my gateway [02:57] and you're on the net [02:57] ..... [02:57] i gtg, but for wireless you use iwconfig if you can't get nm-applet working [02:57] for some reason, yes. It goes online all of a sudden. [02:57] okay, thanks. [02:58] @binary: is there an easy way to read the "properties" of a menu item under "Applications"? [02:58] mattgyver83, connect up your wifi [02:58] Oldbitcollector, no...there isnt [02:59] Oldbitcollector, why you need to know the properties? [02:59] So I can read off what needs to be placed into autostart [02:59] vidd, i did [02:59] i just ran ifdown and ifup on the connection. [02:59] i get nothing [02:59] thought I had found a way to pull launchers from "Applications" onto the desktop earlier.. not sure what I did. [03:00] iwconfig shows my wifi connection though [03:00] mattgyver83, do "sudo /etc/init.d/network restart [03:00] ah.. Appfinder. drag to desktop and I can see the properties. [03:00] ok [03:01] it told me command not found [03:02] mattgyver83, do "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart [03:02] Last question: what is the player which allows music to play when the mouse is held over the file? I'd like to add the feature to X [03:02] last line says 'RTNETLINK answers: No such process' [03:02] Oldbitcollector, im clueless there [03:03] mattgyver83, now ifconfig [03:03] Yes, I'm sure that is not a common question here. :) [03:04] okay, it shows me eth0, eth1, lo, wmaster0 [03:04] ah, one more.. I'm using an SD/USB adapter. How does one change the permissions to allow writing to the SD? [03:08] mattgyver83, now do iwconfig [03:08] okay, it notices my wifi connection @ eth1 [03:08] ok....then you are connected [03:10] browser just times out, and when i try to ping a site i get nothing. [03:10] wmaster is what "controls" the wifi connection [03:11] @iwconfig - wmaster no wireless extensions, eth1 it shows EEID:"matttastic" my home network [03:12] mattgyver83, try sudo apt-get install network-manager [03:13] mattgyver83, wmaster is a controler [03:13] * vidd uses wicd rather then network manager [03:14] mattgyver83, can you ping yor gateway? [03:20] is it possible to search in the samba net as in ubuntu ? [03:20] or connect to a samba server by a graphical xfce tool ? [03:20] mattgyver83, can you ping your gateway? [03:22] aLeSD: could perhaps mount a samba share with fusesmb [03:23] aLeSD: then just browse normally with thunar [03:23] thunar ? fuesmb ? [03:24] aLeSD: thunar is xfce's beloved minimal filemanager [03:24] if you've been browsing the filesystem in X, you've seen thunar [03:25] oh yes [03:25] aLeSD: fusesmb is something like a plugin for fuse which stands for Filesystem in UserSpacE [03:25] aLeSD: basically fuse lets you mount things as your user instead of being root [03:26] aLeSD: also lets you mount things you couldn't normally as filesystems [03:26] aLeSD: samba (windows shares), a directory accessible through ssh etc [03:27] !fusesmb [03:27] fusesmb is a tool that allows easy access to shared folders (smb) on a network. Links with more info: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FuseSmb [03:27] ok thanks [03:27] aLeSD: to the best of my knowledge, no single easy app exists for xfce [03:27] aLeSD: you're welcome === rerobins is now known as Kiption [04:25] <[AfZ]TomServo1> is there a pretentious code on this channel that says that you can't ask n00by questions without lurking for 3 months? === neozen_ is now known as neozen [04:35] Hello, I just upgraded from hardy to intrepid, and now my SD cards are weird, they mount OK, but they don't appear on the Partition Editor, and I cant unmount them. If I try to eject I get an error and than I cannot mount back [04:37] well, the mounting is not really a problem, because it is mounting. but why cant Gparted find it? I need to format it. please help [04:47] this does not happen with usb device, only SD card. my USB pendrive appears on Gparted [05:00] I think is this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/275345 [05:10] how come i dont have a xorg.conf file on a fresh install? only the example [05:11] i'm not going to screw anything up if i run a config tool am i? [05:11] everything works just fine - i only need to disable the touchpad [05:17] fug: just comment it out in your xorg file, its autogenerated by dpkg [05:17] also, all the input stuff is now configured by hal as an fdi [05:24] just figured all i need to do is start syndaemon [05:26] there's the "autostarted applications" in the settings manager.. [05:26] in which file are the settings stored? [05:27] i'd like to have syndaemon and mpd start automatically, is that the righ way to go? [06:50] hello maxamillion [07:12] mount.ntfs is taking 90% of my CPU, what does it do? [07:13] it's a CPU benchmark <- this is a lie [07:14] apparently it keeps the ntfs drive mounted. it fails for taking that much cpu power to do such a thing [07:21] coldhak: Is it a drive that you share with a Window machine? [07:21] Windows* [07:22] * ball potches about with a Webcam [07:38] yes [07:38] i dual boot with windows [07:38] Ah, that limits your options then. [07:38] i killed the process and remounted, it's no longer taking so much cpu [07:39] I have to go anyway, it's 01:38 here and I have to be up again at 05:30 [07:39] coldhak: perhaps it leaks [07:39] same [07:39] g'night [07:39] Goodnight [07:41] hi guys [07:41] i need some help here [07:43] from my xubuntu pc i can ping to another win xp pc, but from win xp pc i can't ping to xubuntu pc [07:43] anybody can give me some solutions? [07:45] please ? [07:47] anybody can help me? [07:49] ? [07:50] hello [07:58] law__: be patient [08:18] so may i ask my question now? [08:30] law__: i think you've asked your question already, anyone able to help will do so, when they are "alive". remember there are timezones [08:30] so the only thing is to be patient, really :) === tuna-fish is now known as tuna [09:45] hi all, how to rebuilding xorg.conf, pls, my this file is empty. :( === jussio1 is now known as jussi01 [12:38] can someone help me [im a linux noob] [12:38] need help installing glib [12:39] * soren raises an eyebrow [12:40] well basically [12:40] how? :D [12:41] what are you trying to do exactly? [12:41] install glib [12:41] you have it istalled [12:41] installed [12:41] it's part of your system [12:41] apparently not [12:42] cause i was trying to install something else and it pronounced that i don't have glib and that i need to get it [12:42] so i've downloaded it [12:42] and extracted it [12:42] but i don't know what to do now [12:42] what do you need it for? [12:42] apparently so i can install xchat [12:42] just install xchat from repositories, with synaptic [13:04] Is Ubuntu bleeding edge like Fedora? [13:06] i have xubuntu hardy and i want to update videolan 0.8.6e to 0.9.6 [13:06] how can i do? [13:06] i don't find a .deb file [13:10] hi [13:11] hello atari [13:11] hhh2, then compile it from source [13:11] read the instructions that comes with it [13:12] hi vidd [13:12] on a scale from 1 to 10. what would be my success when changing from etch to xubunt with apt-get? [13:13] atari, negative 10000 [13:13] damn [13:13] you will do nothing but nuke your system [13:13] you have a seperate /home partition? [13:13] yes i do [13:14] then why not do a net install? [13:14] net install? [13:14] you mean new? [13:14] the mini ISO is only 10 MB, and you tell the installer to leave your /home partition intact [13:14] atari, no....net install [13:14] !mini [13:14] The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD [13:15] the big problem is, i cant boot any ubuntu kernel i tried yet... so i need a customized kernel... [13:15] atari, why can you not boot it? [13:15] what error are you getting? [13:15]