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LnsI have a "quick hack patch" from a while ago that uses LD_PRELOAD to replace attempts to access /dev/random with /dev/urandom... I'm not knowledgeable enough to know if i should rely on this, rather than the actual nspr fix I see was made00:05
LnsI guess i'll plan on using the "nasty hack" - if anyone has some insight on how someone like me can possibly, "more reliably" test the issue, please comment in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nspr/+bug/269188 - thanks all!00:22
ubottuLaunchpad bug 269188 in nspr "Extreme slowness, "Firefox is already running" error for >3 users launching Firefox in LTSP environment" [Medium,In progress]00:22
[reed]fta / asac: http://www.fosscamp.org/HowToAttend12:14
[reed]" Stephen Lau12:14
[reed]12:14
[reed]Songbird12:14
[reed]12:14
[reed]system-wide XULRunner anyone?"12:14
[reed]except there is system-wide XULRunner12:14
[reed]just that Songbird can't use it since they patch it!12:15
asac[reed]: i wont even be at fosscamp :/12:25
asaci arrive on sat evening12:25
asac[reed]: and yes. not sure what thats about12:25
asac[reed]: we discussed with songbird folks a bunch of times that we need to get their patches sorted12:26
fta172 tabs, gasp14:40
fta[reed], i'm now suffering from mozilla bug 40431414:52
ubottuMozilla bug 404314 in XUL "when I click on a menu instead of click and hold it randomly selects a menu item and activates it" [Normal,New] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=40431414:52
ftait regressed for me recently :(14:53
[reed]fta: it has to be something gtk-related...15:02
[reed]I've hit the same bug just using gedit15:02
asacfta: is it really random or just when you accidentially move your mouse while clicking?15:22
ftanot really random, it seems it selects the 1st entry15:28
ftai was used to click a menu to open it, now, i need to click and hold otherwise it selects the 1st entry15:29
asacfta: yeah. then its the "non-random" part of the bug15:44
asacfta: have you tried to release button and explicitly dont move the mouse?15:44
asaci dont see how it can select a menu entry if you dont move the3 mouse at all15:45
asacheh. i am twice on the hall of fame ;)17:39
asacbusiest sponsor ... thats actually the last category i would have expected me17:39
asacthey apepar not to count the mozilla sponsorships17:40
ftai'm not sure if i should push my stuff or not17:41
asacfta: which stuff?17:42
ftawhat we discussed in the last meeting17:42
asacdo those packages have "need-packaging" bugs?17:43
asacif so, i can peer-review things and then it should be fine.17:43
asaci talked a bit about all this17:43
asacwith folks17:43
asacseems to be that peer review (e.g. what persia said) is not required, but a guideline17:43
ftano, because i'm not sure what you want, snapshots vs releases17:43
asacwhich we should encourange17:43
asacusually releases i would say17:44
ftai just packaged python-tlslite17:44
asacor if you are sure there will be a release before feature freeze pushing pre-snapshots might work17:44
ftaif it's releases, i have nothing to push, period17:44
asacreleases != final releases .... beta sounds good if hte package is usable17:44
asaci dont even care if you push snapshots. its just that things going up to archive should be more stable than daily snapshots pushed to PPA ;)17:45
asacarchive should just get something more or less stabilized.17:45
asacif there are no releases we have to do the stabilization somehow.17:46
asacbut starting with a beta for initial upload sounds sensible17:46
* sebner is too shy to ask asac for an autograph :P17:46
asachehe17:46
asaci won't give any anyway ;)17:46
sebnerbah :P17:47
sebnerhow do you treat your fans :P17:47
asaconly when i reach the first rank for bug tracking ;)17:47
ftathen it confirms i have nothing to upload17:47
asacfta: why?17:47
* fta going back to more chromium work17:47
asacfta: its hard to say that random snapshots are good in general. if you think something is usable we can look at individual cases17:49
ftai don't care, early or not, nothing gets in17:50
asacyour call ;)17:50
=== fabrice_sp_ is now known as fabrice_sp
ftamoz-central is about to jump to 3.2a1pre, and 3.1* is still only in my ppa. what should i think of all that ? huge loss of time ?17:55
asaci dont understand what you mean18:00
asac3.1 is certainly at beta18:00
asacso thats ok to upload for sure.18:00
asacjust pick a milestone for the archive upload18:01
asac18:46 < asac> but starting with a beta for initial upload sounds sensible18:04
asacand surely that work is not loss of time because 3.1 will definitly be in the archive ... if not today, then tomorrow :)18:04
* asac off to grocery store ... bb soon18:08
asacback18:53
asacdebian bug 48241522:05
ubottuDebian bug 482415 in iceweasel "iceweasel: crashes immediately upon startup" [Important,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/48241522:05
asacdebian bug 49531122:06
ubottuDebian bug 495311 in iceweasel "iceweasel silently fails if permissions on .mozilla are wrong" [Important,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/49531122:06
asacgood ... not affected :-P22:09
ftaasac, http://launchpadlibrarian.net/19844522/buildlog_ubuntu-jaunty-amd64.xulrunner-1.9.1_1.9.1~b2~hg20081121r21862%2Bnobinonly-0ubuntu1~fta1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz22:48
ftathe new cairo now does directfb too22:48
ftastrangely, it doesn't fail on i38622:49
ftaoh damned, my chroot still has the old cairo22:51
asacfta: holded back locally?22:57
asacfta: did you do the new cairo? :-P22:57
ftano, my ppa line was still intrepid22:58
ftayes22:58
ftato late for a1 so it's still only in my ppa22:58
ftatoo22:58
ftahttp://ppa.launchpad.net/fta/ubuntu/pool/main/c/chromium-browser/22:58
ftaasac, what i mean is that we've never built a xul with a cairo doing directfb23:19
ftadebian does now, at least with their experimental cairo23:19
directhexasac, remember the plugin-detector-manglement for the plugin finder to get invoked instead of javascriot-based "please install fooplugin to use this site" stuff you were talking about a while back... is that anywhere on your jaunty TODO?23:42

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