| neozen | jmichaelx: run nm-applet | 00:01 |
|---|---|---|
| neozen | jmichaelx: it'll show up in the system tray | 00:01 |
| neozen | jmichaelx: if you've got one | 00:01 |
| neozen | if not... just right click on your panel... pick "add to panel" then search for "System Tray" | 00:04 |
| neozen | jmichaelx: add that to your panel... then you have a place for the network-manager-gnome icon to show up in | 00:04 |
| keith | I'm looking for help with my sound. | 01:07 |
| keith | anybody home? | 01:08 |
| zoredache | !anyone | 01:09 |
| ubottu | A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? | 01:09 |
| keith | not looking for an English lesson! | 01:11 |
| zoredache | !question | 01:12 |
| ubottu | Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) | 01:12 |
| keith | I'm not familiar with the protocol here. I will start over. | 01:14 |
| keith | Is there anyone running 8.0 on an HP zv5000? I am having a problem with "no sound". I sometimes get static and nothing else. | 01:17 |
| law__ | hi | 01:52 |
| ball | hello law__ | 01:52 |
| law__ | hello ball | 01:52 |
| law__ | i have some problem here | 01:52 |
| * ball is watching Mrs. ball courtesy of WiFi and a USB webcam | 01:52 | |
| ball | law__: what is your problem? | 01:53 |
| law__ | my xp pc can't ping to my xubuntu pc, but my xubuntu can ping to xp | 01:54 |
| ball | Hmm... let me try that now | 01:54 |
| law__ | i have shared a folder in xubuntu and i want to access the shared folderd from xp | 01:55 |
| ball | did you share it using Samba? | 01:56 |
| law__ | yup | 01:56 |
| ball | What are the respective IP addresses of each machine? | 01:56 |
| law__ | xp-> 192.168.0.5 xubuntu->192.168.0.94 | 01:57 |
| ball | subnet masks? | 01:57 |
| law__ | 255.255.255.0 | 01:58 |
| ball | on a command line on the XP box, type "arp 192.168.0.94" | 01:58 |
| law__ | when i open \\192.168.0.94 from xp pc it says 192.168.0.94 network path was not found | 02:03 |
| ball | law__: you'd need a share name too. | 02:05 |
| ball | What did arp say? | 02:05 |
| ball | hello zenrox | 02:06 |
| law__ | then i try to ping 192.168.0.94(xubuntu ip) from xp and it returns RTO | 02:06 |
| ball | wtf is RTO ? | 02:07 |
| law__ | request time out | 02:09 |
| ball | Oh, well that's sad. | 02:11 |
| law__ | is there any possibility that it is caused by xubuntu firewall ? | 02:12 |
| ball | law__: not inconceivable, but iwfm | 02:12 |
| law__ | iwfm? | 02:13 |
| ball | it works for me. | 02:13 |
| law__ | do u know where is to configure xubuntu firewall? | 02:13 |
| ball | Give me a minute or two and I'll have a look. | 02:14 |
| law__ | ok | 02:14 |
| ball | I don't know. I can't find it. | 02:16 |
| law__ | i just fresh install my xubuntu | 02:16 |
| law__ | so i think all conf is still in default conf | 02:17 |
| ball | I can ping my ubuntu box | 02:17 |
| law__ | when i use ubuntu i can ping it to | 02:18 |
| law__ | but now i use xubuntu | 02:18 |
| ball | I don't have a pure Xubuntu box yet, so ymmv | 02:18 |
| law__ | thx ball | 02:22 |
| law__ | anyone can help me to solve my problem? | 02:22 |
| ball | I've been looking for a firewall-related command, but I'm not seeing it. | 02:23 |
| Shaba1 | ball: on xubuntu | 02:23 |
| Shaba1 | ? | 02:23 |
| Shaba1 | I did not know it came with a firewall | 02:24 |
| ball | Shaba1: yes, sort of. | 02:24 |
| ball | Shaba1: I don't know. | 02:24 |
| law__ | i 'm not certain too it's caused by firewall | 02:26 |
| law__ | but it;s weird that i cant ping my xubuntu from xp | 02:27 |
| law__ | could u help me Shabal? | 02:28 |
| Shaba1 | with what. | 02:31 |
| Shaba1 | I am clueless in the linux world | 02:32 |
| law__ | that's ok Shabal | 02:32 |
| ball | I can launch individual X clients, but don't have a convenient way of getting to the menu. | 02:33 |
| law__ | individual X clients? | 02:35 |
| Shaba1 | sorry law__ | 02:35 |
| Shaba1 | I am new to linux myself | 02:35 |
| Shaba1 | very versed in the windows world | 02:35 |
| Shaba1 | but I decided to plunge into linux a few months ago to make myself more employable | 02:36 |
| law__ | that's ok Shabal i'm still learning too | 02:36 |
| law__ | so what distro do u use Shabal? | 02:37 |
| Shaba1 | xubuntu hardy 8.04 | 02:37 |
| Shaba1 | although I am on the windows side of this computer right now | 02:37 |
| law__ | i'm using xubuntu 8.10 | 02:38 |
| Shaba1 | lots of the web development programs only come in linux versions | 02:39 |
| law__ | i found that ubuntu more easy to use than xubuntu | 02:39 |
| Shaba1 | or the newest versions are linux | 02:39 |
| Shaba1 | the windows version lag behind | 02:39 |
| Shaba1 | so I had to get some form of linux | 02:39 |
| law__ | but the gnome desktop not working so good in my laptop | 02:39 |
| law__ | so i move to xubuntu (xfce desktop) | 02:40 |
| Shaba1 | yeah but ubuntu would not work on this ancient laptop | 02:40 |
| Shaba1 | would not even install | 02:40 |
| ball | If I had a very fast computer, I would probably still prefer Xubuntu | 02:40 |
| Shaba1 | Oh I have a fast desktop machine | 02:41 |
| law__ | i'm agree ball | 02:41 |
| Shaba1 | but I need to clear off disk space to make and effective linux partition | 02:41 |
| ball | Hey! I can launch thunar | 02:41 |
| law__ | <ball> Hey! I can launch thunar. -> then? | 02:42 |
| colton_ | Hi. What's the biggest difference between xubuntu and the other ubuntu distros? | 02:42 |
| law__ | the desktop manager colton | 02:42 |
| ball | colton_: Xubuntu is mercifully free of KDE and Gnome | 02:43 |
| ball | law__: thunar also just spawned totem. | 02:45 |
| colton_ | what is a desktop manager? | 02:46 |
| law__ | spawned totem ? what it means ball | 02:46 |
| colton_ | I want a desktop which is good for programming. Does that make sense? what would that be. | 02:46 |
| ball | law__: I double-clicked on an MP3 file and thunar started totem, opening it on my display (even though I'm sitting in another room) | 02:48 |
| law__ | i think all desktop is good for programming | 02:48 |
| law__ | i got it now ball :) | 02:49 |
| ball | law__: Old programmers like me are more comfortable at the command line. | 02:50 |
| ball | We can use the GUI if it's there, but we don't depend on it. | 02:50 |
| ball | ...and we're able to do some things faster from a $ prompt | 02:50 |
| law__ | so what programming language u use ball? | 02:51 |
| ball | law__: this year I'm mostly paid to code in php and IBM DB2 | 02:51 |
| law__ | ya i agree ->we're able to do some things faster from a $ prompt | 02:51 |
| law__ | i;m using db2 too | 02:51 |
| law__ | version 8.12 | 02:51 |
| ball | I haven't tried it on Linux yet. | 02:52 |
| law__ | ya i used it on winxp | 02:52 |
| law__ | not on linux yet | 02:53 |
| ball | I don't have a Windows box | 02:53 |
| ball | My wife does. | 02:53 |
| law__ | so what os do u use to run db2 ball? | 02:53 |
| ball | We have it on (well, /in/ ) IBM i5/OS | 02:54 |
| Shaba1 | db2? | 02:54 |
| ball | Shaba1: it's a database engine from IBM | 02:54 |
| ball | I need to go and wash some dishes. | 02:55 |
| law__ | i want to go to my client place too | 02:55 |
| law__ | so bye for now | 02:55 |
| colton_ | How can you edit programs effectively without a gui to help you out? | 02:55 |
| ball | colton_: I use joe | 02:56 |
| ball | (a text editor) | 02:56 |
| === ball is now known as ball_ | ||
| colton_ | Is there stuff which is slower from a $ prompt? | 02:56 |
| === doris is now known as ball | ||
| colton_ | joe? | 02:57 |
| ball_ | colton_: yes and there are also things that aren't practical from the command line | 02:57 |
| colton_ | hmm. brb | 02:57 |
| ball | soren! | 03:05 |
| ball | I haven't seen you for years! | 03:05 |
| ball | Okay, I'm off to wash some dishes anyway. | 03:06 |
| ball | bye all. | 03:06 |
| === doris is now known as ball | ||
| ball | What is the cli command to suspend a Xubuntu box? | 03:08 |
| colton_ | What sorts of things are made much easier by an IDE vs a terminal? | 03:09 |
| ball | colton_ a good ide helps with debugging, but stays out of your way otherwise. | 03:09 |
| ball | e.g. when there's a bug, the IDE drops you in the source right where it happened. | 03:10 |
| ball | ...but come to think of it, the IDEs I used most /were/ terminal (text-based) programs | 03:10 |
| Kiption | you can do the same things with a terminal and a good text editor | 03:11 |
| Kiption | the IDE is useful for if you don't know the code in my opinion | 03:11 |
| Kiption | after that, they almost always get in the way | 03:11 |
| ball | A good IDE can be useful even if you do know the code, but good IDEs are few-and-far-between in my experience. | 03:12 |
| ball | Kiption's right about them getting in the way. | 03:12 |
| colton_ | So. A really good programmer should be able to work with a console and text editor as well if not better than with an IDE? | 03:12 |
| ball | I can't use Zend Studio at work because it gets in the way too much | 03:12 |
| ball | colton_: probably, yes. | 03:12 |
| Kiption | so a programmer that really knows the application he's working on is probably better with a terminal and a text editor | 03:13 |
| Kiption | the quality of the programmer really doesn't have anything to do with it | 03:13 |
| ball | brb, trying suspend and wake-on-lan | 03:13 |
| Kiption | i personally use both, but if I'm fixing something simple I just use gVim and a terminal | 03:13 |
| Kiption | if I have to spend more than an hour or so in and I'm writing something new | 03:13 |
| Kiption | an IDE is more useful | 03:14 |
| Kiption | depends on how many notes you want to make while you're writing really | 03:14 |
| colton_ | what IDE(s) do you use? | 03:14 |
| === tuna-fish is now known as tuna | ||
| law1 | hi | 06:21 |
| law1 | anyone online | 06:21 |
| ball | nope. | 06:22 |
| law1 | hi ball | 06:22 |
| jmichaelx | i'm not either | 06:23 |
| law1 | hi jmichaelx | 06:23 |
| jmichaelx | !hi | law1 | 06:23 |
| ubottu | law1: Hi! Welcome to #xubuntu! | 06:23 |
| law1 | hi ubottu | 06:24 |
| ball | !hi | 5 | 06:24 |
| ubottu | 5: Hi! Welcome to #xubuntu! | 06:24 |
| law1 | why this room so silent? | 06:26 |
| jmichaelx | we're meditating | 06:26 |
| law1 | i haven't solved my problem yet | 06:26 |
| deathtome | !ripper | 06:27 |
| ubottu | Sorry, I don't know anything about ripper | 06:27 |
| deathtome | !rip mp3 | 06:27 |
| ubottu | Sorry, I don't know anything about rip mp3 | 06:27 |
| deathtome | how do i rip a cd to mp3 | 06:27 |
| deathtome | in 8.10 | 06:28 |
| ball | cdparanoia | 06:28 |
| ball | ...then bladeenc | 06:28 |
| ball | that's what I would do anyway. | 06:28 |
| law1 | deathtome use grip | 06:30 |
| ball | I have to go | 06:30 |
| deathtome | thanks for your help | 06:32 |
| law1 | anybody knows why i can't access my xubuntu shared folder from my winxp pc? | 06:33 |
| law1 | when i run \\192.168.0.94(my xubuntu ip) from win xp it says no network path was found | 06:34 |
| law1 | i can ping winxp pc from xubuntu pc but can't ping xubuntu pc from winxp pc | 06:36 |
| law1 | anybody can help me? | 06:37 |
| R1cochet | is there a way to type in spaces to a file path in terminal | 07:52 |
| atari | R1cochet: "\ " | 08:13 |
| R1coch3t | is there a way to create a user interface theme? | 09:57 |
| === R1coch3t is now known as R1cochet | ||
| R1cochet | :) | 10:36 |
| whyking__ | hi | 11:39 |
| whyking__ | since the upgrade to 8.10 I have random crashes of x.org | 11:39 |
| iuri | hi there, after i upgrade my kernel i lost wireless driver | 12:33 |
| iuri | does anyone know how to fix this problem? | 12:34 |
| jonnyboy27 | what wireless chipset are you using? | 12:37 |
| jonnyboy27 | evidently he'd figured it out | 12:48 |
| Ben_Cs | hello | 13:09 |
| Ben_Cs | is there a good organizer for xubuntu? | 13:09 |
| jonnyboy27 | what kind of organiser do you mean? | 13:14 |
| jonnyboy27 | a PIM app like outlook or a project management program? | 13:15 |
| Ben_Cs | a todo list manager | 13:15 |
| jonnyboy27 | yeah, theres a couple. linux format did a good group review on list managers/GTD software recently, I'll just find the link | 13:15 |
| jonnyboy27 | damn, it's only available to subscribers | 13:18 |
| Ben_Cs | jonnyboy27: ok | 13:18 |
| jonnyboy27 | i've used tracks in teh past - quite nice | 13:18 |
| Ben_Cs | jonnyboy27: i noticed xfce4-notes plugin. it's enough. thanks | 13:19 |
| jonnyboy27 | no worries | 13:19 |
| Ben_Cs | bye :) | 13:20 |
| === wormsxulla_ is now known as wormsxulla | ||
| bad-wire | back with sound problems: sound keeps cutting out during playback, when I log into a gnome session it works fine (same hardware software and files being played) | 14:38 |
| vidd | bad-wire, you have this issue with a live cd? | 14:41 |
| bad-wire | nope with a recent install, all updates done | 14:41 |
| bad-wire | btw: spoke with you yesterday as sinbox vidd | 14:41 |
| vidd | so the live cd works fine? or have you not tested? | 14:42 |
| sniperlt | Hello folks | 14:42 |
| vidd | i want to rule out setting conflicts | 14:42 |
| vidd | hello sniperlt | 14:42 |
| sniperlt | Hey on window I can right click any web page and choose 'create shortcut' from the popup window. Is there a way to do that in firefox | 14:43 |
| vidd | lets find out sniperlt | 14:44 |
| vidd | sniperlt, click and drag the tab out of FF onto your desktop | 14:44 |
| sniperlt | vidd: ok and thanks again for the help yesterday | 14:45 |
| vidd | np | 14:45 |
| vidd | bad-wire, sorry...im not really sure what may be causing your sound issue except possibly a software conflict.... | 14:45 |
| sniperlt | yep that did it vid | 14:46 |
| vidd | xfce and gnome use all the same back-ends for sound | 14:46 |
| vidd | (at least...as far as I know) | 14:46 |
| sniperlt | what I specifically meant to thank you for is not being a sarcastic ass when you helped like so many people are on here. | 14:46 |
| vidd | sniperlt, if you want...i can be sarcastic......i LIKE being sarcastic.... =] | 14:47 |
| vidd | and sometimes I am sarcastic if someone gets under my skin | 14:47 |
| sniperlt | oh please no | 14:47 |
| sniperlt | I get enought of that on freenode already | 14:47 |
| vidd | but usuially, i just stop helping | 14:48 |
| sniperlt | And we wonder why people call us geeks | 14:48 |
| sniperlt | vidd: what is the little white circle for at the top left of most xubuntu windows for | 14:49 |
| vidd | ???? | 14:49 |
| vidd | i think its for "shadow" | 14:49 |
| sniperlt | what is shadow? | 14:50 |
| vidd | hides all but the title bar | 14:50 |
| vidd | very useful for those that dont use panels | 14:50 |
| vidd | ****shade****not shadow....sorry | 14:50 |
| sniperlt | I just clicked it in this kvirc window and it did nothing | 14:51 |
| vidd | OH!.....i see the circle now..... | 14:51 |
| vidd | that pins the app on all desktops | 14:51 |
| bad-wire | i haven't tried with live cd yet vidd I'll do that and report back | 14:51 |
| vidd | the little "up arrow" on the right side does the shade | 14:52 |
| * vidd has issues with "left" and "right" | 14:52 | |
| * vidd needed to keep a small rock in his left pocket during his military days =] | 14:53 | |
| sniperlt | ah i see now | 14:53 |
| sniperlt | ok | 14:53 |
| sniperlt | now i got a full kvirc window | 14:53 |
| sniperlt | and cannot figure out how to resize it | 14:54 |
| vidd | do you see the 4 squares in the upper right? | 14:54 |
| vidd | "arrow" "underscore" "[dunno what is here for you]" "X"? | 14:55 |
| sniperlt | yepper | 14:55 |
| sniperlt | I do not have it maximized | 14:56 |
| vidd | is the [dunno...] one square or two? | 14:56 |
| sniperlt | it has two squares | 14:56 |
| sniperlt | but it is still full screen | 14:56 |
| vidd | ah...then it is maximized | 14:56 |
| sniperlt | and will nto resize | 14:56 |
| vidd | single square is "not maximized" | 14:57 |
| vidd | the icon tells you what WILL happen | 14:57 |
| sniperlt | ok I changed that but still no sizing handles | 14:57 |
| vidd | move your cursor to the bottom right corner.... | 14:57 |
| vidd | or....grab the title bar and drag down and right..... | 14:58 |
| vidd | the upper left and the bottom right are usually the best "resize" locations | 14:58 |
| sniperlt | ok got it | 14:59 |
| sniperlt | thanks again | 14:59 |
| * vidd needs to start charging =] | 14:59 | |
| vidd | j/k | 14:59 |
| vidd | sniperlt, i guess the reason i dont come accross as sarcastic is because i do this kind of tech support for work (as well as phone and email) | 15:01 |
| bad-wire | is there a keyboard shortcut to start a terminal or do you have to set one yourself? | 15:02 |
| vidd | bad-wire, that depends.... | 15:02 |
| vidd | the [ctl]+[alt]+[f-] keys count? | 15:03 |
| * bad-wire thinks vidd is masochist | 15:03 | |
| bad-wire | ;) | 15:03 |
| vidd | they are tty's | 15:03 |
| bad-wire | which [f.] key would that be? | 15:03 |
| vidd | f1-f6 | 15:03 |
| vidd | if that counts....then yeah.... | 15:04 |
| bad-wire | I was actually thinking of a terminal window on the desktop rather than full terminal mode, and btw how do you get out of the tty back to desktop? | 15:04 |
| vidd | if it dont, then no...you have to build your own | 15:04 |
| * bad-wire grabs his toolbox | 15:05 | |
| vidd | [ctrl]+[alt]+[f7} | 15:05 |
| bad-wire | thanks :) | 15:05 |
| bad-wire | anyone here happens to use liveice? | 15:05 |
| * vidd has never heard of it....would that be a "no" or "only if it's a secret part of something else"? | 15:06 | |
| vidd | =] | 15:06 |
| vidd | sniperlt, that little bit of sarcasim is dedicated to you! =] | 15:07 |
| bad-wire | hehe | 15:07 |
| vidd | si9nce you miss it so much! | 15:07 |
| vidd | bad-wire, do you not have a panel launcher for terminal? | 15:08 |
| bad-wire | it's part of the icecast package (I think) for streaming mp3 (the chaps in the icecast channel are not very found of mp3 streaming anf helping with it) | 15:08 |
| jonnyboy27 | bad-wire - i'd second using a panel button for [insert terminal emulator of choice here] | 15:09 |
| bad-wire | I guess I could add a panel launcher but it's for those times I'm on keyboard-at-full speed mode | 15:09 |
| * vidd has the terminal added to his menu so he only needs to [alt]+[esc] and [down arrow] twice to get terminal | 15:09 | |
| jonnyboy27 | i'm not sure whether you can assign a kb shortcut to a launcher in xfce. iirc you can in gnome, but alas i'm on my work xp machine atm so no way of trying | 15:10 |
| bad-wire | does [alt]+[esc] bring out the menu? | 15:10 |
| * vidd recommends assigning that task to the evil "cap-lock" button | 15:10 | |
| vidd | bad-wire, yes it does | 15:11 |
| bad-wire | cap-lock is a useful moron hunting tool methinks | 15:11 |
| jonnyboy27 | aah, in keyboard preferences you can assign keyboard shortcuts to any command you like | 15:11 |
| vidd | 95% of my support calls are caused by that cap's lock key | 15:12 |
| bad-wire | hmmm, doesn't bring the menu down for me :'( | 15:12 |
| bad-wire | are the other 5% to do with the computer not being plugged in? | 15:12 |
| vidd | its ctrl...not alt....sorry | 15:12 |
| jonnyboy27 | most of our sales team enter everything in FULL CAPS and so never turn caps off. meaning all my support emails are SHOUTED AT ME!!! | 15:13 |
| bad-wire | OK that works :) | 15:13 |
| * vidd is off for his 15 minute smoke break | 15:13 | |
| bad-wire | ah well, that's sales staff for you ;-) | 15:13 |
| jonnyboy27 | uh-huh. | 15:14 |
| * jonnyboy27 notices #xubuntu slowly turning into an ASR-esque bitch-fest | 15:14 | |
| jonnyboy27 | :P | 15:14 |
| bad-wire | this sound problem is really weird, but it seems to be slowly getting les and less worse, baffling to say the least | 15:17 |
| === knome_ is now known as knome | ||
| * vidd is BACK | 15:23 | |
| vidd | \0. knome | 15:23 |
| jonnyboy27 | @bad-wire - it certainly does sound (no pun intended) odd | 15:29 |
| jonnyboy27 | is it crackling or intermittently cutting out? | 15:30 |
| jonnyboy27 | with all sound sources? do you get it with alsa/oss/pulse? | 15:30 |
| bad-wire | yes, most weird, I find Xubuntu not the easiest for sound configuration, it was also weird when I installed it on my laptop | 15:31 |
| bad-wire | luckily I was saved there by the HDD dying very soon after :/ | 15:31 |
| bad-wire | it intermittently cuts out and goes "scritch scritch" | 15:31 |
| vidd | "saved ... by the HDD dying"???? | 15:32 |
| vidd | so strange to hear | 15:32 |
| vidd | what ever became of that lappy? | 15:32 |
| bad-wire | only using the xcfe-mixer I haven't played with the rest yet, and this seems to be using the alsa backend and driver | 15:32 |
| jonnyboy27 | so the "scritch scritch" isn't the heads bouncing off the platters then? :P | 15:32 |
| bad-wire | I put the old win2k HDD back in it until I get my hands on another 2'5 HDD | 15:33 |
| vidd | those things are starting to get scarce | 15:33 |
| vidd | all you see these days are sata's | 15:34 |
| bad-wire | wouldn't be the heads as I'm reading the tracks of a CD, just to be sure if I log into a gnome session it actually works without a hitch | 15:34 |
| bad-wire | being a cheapskate I think I'm at least a year away of SATA drives | 15:34 |
| bad-wire | bye for now | 15:47 |
| === tuna-fish is now known as tuna | ||
| jonnyboy27 | lo tuna | 16:04 |
| tuna | hi | 16:05 |
| fr4nk | hello | 16:30 |
| vidd | hello fr4nk | 16:31 |
| fr4nk | where i can find the log of the boot procedure?? the file var/log/boot is empty..... oO | 16:31 |
| vidd | fr4nk, did you open it with root permissions? | 16:36 |
| vidd | hrm...nvmd | 16:38 |
| vidd | fr4nk, i think it is dmesg you want to look at | 16:38 |
| fr4nk | root doesn't work too: "(Nothing has been logged yet.)" ;) | 16:40 |
| === sniperlt is now known as Shaba1 | ||
| fr4nk | brb | 16:44 |
| Shaba1 | Ok brb everyone time to swith over to familiar old windows xp | 16:46 |
| vidd | wb fr4nk | 16:53 |
| vidd | as i said b4....check dmesg ... not boot | 16:53 |
| fr4nk | jeah, but i missing a message, because my startscript doesn't work fine...so i tried to used an absolute path..seems to work now.... | 16:54 |
| fr4nk | i have a problem with the taskbars.....standard installation uses a clock in the upper taskbar, this one i deleted and added the orage-clock to the bottom taskbar..... | 16:55 |
| fr4nk | but sometimes, i have 2 clocks | 16:56 |
| fr4nk | one in the upper one in the bottom taskbar | 16:56 |
| fr4nk | sometimes both in the bottom taskbar | 16:56 |
| fr4nk | sometimes it doesn't save my configuration i have the feeling....dunno | 16:57 |
| fr4nk | <-- afk | 16:59 |
| vidd | fr4nk, nvmd then...let me know when your back | 17:00 |
| ashdjones | Hi I have a problem with my Xubuntu installation and I wondered if anybody could help please? | 17:10 |
| vidd | ashdjones, can you be slightly more specific? | 17:11 |
| ashdjones | yes | 17:12 |
| vidd | !ask | 17:12 |
| ubottu | Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) | 17:12 |
| ashdjones | Okay sorry. I installed using the 'install inside windows' option and it's been working fine for the last few days, but not it won't boot up. I shut it down correctly but it claims there is a problem with the filesystem and that I should go into Windows and do 'chkdsk /r'. | 17:13 |
| vidd | ashdjones, did you upgrade the kernel in it? | 17:14 |
| ashdjones | Not as far as I know, I haven't applied any updates manually. | 17:14 |
| vidd | did you do the chkdsk /r in windows? | 17:15 |
| ashdjones | Yes but windows claim the device volume is in use. | 17:15 |
| vidd | ic | 17:15 |
| vidd | how much of its alloted space is used up? | 17:16 |
| ashdjones | Well i'm in Windows now so I can only check the folder size (one moment) 4.27 gb | 17:17 |
| ashdjones | Which I think is more than I alloted it. | 17:17 |
| fr4nk | vidd i'm back ;) | 17:17 |
| vidd | ashdjones, if you only alloted 4gb, then uninstall it via control panel, and re-install it | 17:18 |
| ashdjones | Okay. Is there no other way to fix it? | 17:18 |
| vidd | fr4nk, open up your ~./config/xfce4/panel folder | 17:18 |
| vidd | ashdjones, not that I know of...i dont think you can live-boot and access the wubi drive..... | 17:19 |
| vidd | besides, if you only allocated 4gb of hd space for the wubi, you need to format it and rebuild it anyway....otherwise it will fail in a few days again anyway | 17:20 |
| fr4nk | vidd and now? | 17:20 |
| ashdjones | Okay well thanks for your help, it have been sensible if the installation had warned me before this happened. | 17:20 |
| ashdjones | I guess I should allot it more space? | 17:20 |
| vidd | ashdjones, yeah... i allocate 6gb just for system files | 17:21 |
| vidd | ashdjones, i cant say for certain this is the cause of your issue..... | 17:22 |
| vidd | but its wubi...not a seperate partition | 17:22 |
| vidd | so i dont know how to get into it | 17:22 |
| vidd | (from windows) | 17:22 |
| vidd | fr4nk, open your file manager | 17:22 |
| vidd | go to your home directory | 17:22 |
| vidd | click the "show hidden" in the view menu | 17:23 |
| ashdjones | Vidd: Okay. Are there no tools for managing a wubi file system from Windows? | 17:23 |
| vidd | open up .config | 17:23 |
| fr4nk | yes i did, i am in the folder now | 17:23 |
| vidd | ashdjones, if there are, i dont know them....windows is an evil beast that has no buisness on any of my systems =] | 17:24 |
| ashdjones | A puritan I see ;) | 17:24 |
| vidd | fr4nk, pastebin me the contents of the panels.xml file | 17:24 |
| fr4nk | <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?> | 17:24 |
| fr4nk | <!DOCTYPE config SYSTEM "config.dtd"> | 17:24 |
| fr4nk | <panels> | 17:24 |
| fr4nk | <panel> | 17:24 |
| fr4nk | <properties> | 17:24 |
| fr4nk | <property name="size" value="24"/> | 17:24 |
| fr4nk | <property name="monitor" value="0"/> | 17:24 |
| vidd | ashdjones, no...just see no point in having virus magnets on my network | 17:24 |
| fr4nk | <property name="screen-position" value="2"/> | 17:24 |
| fr4nk | <property name="fullwidth" value="1"/> | 17:24 |
| fr4nk | <property name="xoffset" value="0"/> | 17:25 |
| vidd | HEY!!!!!!! | 17:25 |
| fr4nk | <property name="yoffset" value="0"/> | 17:25 |
| fr4nk | <property name="handlestyle" value="0"/> | 17:25 |
| fr4nk | <property name="autohide" value="0"/> | 17:25 |
| fr4nk | <property name="transparency" value="20"/> | 17:25 |
| vidd | !pastebin | fr4nk | 17:25 |
| ubottu | fr4nk: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic) | 17:25 |
| fr4nk | <property name="activetrans" value="0"/> | 17:25 |
| fr4nk | </properties> | 17:25 |
| fr4nk | <items> | 17:25 |
| fr4nk | <item name="xfce4-menu" id="1"/> | 17:25 |
| fr4nk | <item name="places" id="2"/> | 17:25 |
| fr4nk | <item name="launcher" id="2"/> | 17:25 |
| fr4nk | <item name="separator" id="3"/> | 17:25 |
| fr4nk | <item name="systray" id="4"/> | 17:25 |
| fr4nk | <item name="xfce4-mixer" id="5"/> | 17:25 |
| fr4nk | <item name="actions" id="6"/> | 17:25 |
| fr4nk | </items> | 17:25 |
| fr4nk | </panel> | 17:25 |
| fr4nk | <panel> | 17:25 |
| fr4nk | <properties> | 17:25 |
| fr4nk | <property name="size" value="24"/> | 17:25 |
| fr4nk | <property name="monitor" value="0"/> | 17:25 |
| fr4nk | <property name="screen-position" value="11"/> | 17:25 |
| fr4nk | <property name="fullwidth" value="1"/> | 17:25 |
| ashdjones | vidd: Yes, well I can agree with you on that. | 17:25 |
| fr4nk | <property name="xoffset" value="0"/> | 17:25 |
| fr4nk | <property name="yoffset" value="743"/> | 17:25 |
| vidd | someone boot fr4nk | 17:25 |
| fr4nk | <property name="handlestyle" value="0"/> | 17:25 |
| fr4nk | <property name="autohide" value="0"/> | 17:25 |
| fr4nk | <property name="transparency" value="20"/> | 17:25 |
| fr4nk | <property name="activetrans" value="0"/> | 17:26 |
| fr4nk | </properties> | 17:26 |
| fr4nk | <items> | 17:26 |
| fr4nk | <item name="showdesktop" id="1"/> | 17:26 |
| fr4nk | <item name="pager" id="3"/> | 17:26 |
| fr4nk | <item name="tasklist" id="2"/> | 17:26 |
| fr4nk | <item name="orageclock" id="12272840540"/> | 17:26 |
| fr4nk | </items> | 17:26 |
| fr4nk | </panel> | 17:26 |
| fr4nk | </panels> | 17:26 |
| fr4nk | oO | 17:26 |
| fr4nk | xD | 17:26 |
| fr4nk | sry | 17:26 |
| fr4nk | someone boot? | 17:26 |
| vidd | fr4nk, did you NOT READ what i said??????? | 17:26 |
| vidd | !pastebin |fr | 17:26 |
| ubottu | fr: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic) | 17:26 |
| vidd | !pastebin | fr4nk | 17:26 |
| ubottu | fr4nk: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic) | 17:26 |
| fr4nk | yes i am working on that, w8 a minute | 17:27 |
| vidd | fr4nk, you almost flooded my out of the channel | 17:27 |
| fr4nk | have problems....dunno cant paste into the text field...oO | 17:27 |
| ashdjones | Okay thanks for your help vidd it was appreciated. | 17:28 |
| fr4nk | omg, "PHP and other Web scripts are not allowed" --> used Syntax: XML | 17:29 |
| fr4nk | what i am doing wrong? | 17:29 |
| vidd | you probably didnt bother to open it in a text editor like mousepad | 17:30 |
| vidd | remove the top 2 lines.... | 17:31 |
| fr4nk | y i did, i paste the content into the text field and clicked "Paste!" | 17:31 |
| vidd | the <?xml.... and the <!DOC | 17:31 |
| fr4nk | http://paste.ubuntu.com/75311/ | 17:31 |
| fr4nk | omg | 17:31 |
| fr4nk | kk | 17:31 |
| vidd | fr4nk, replace "orageclock" with "clock" | 17:32 |
| vidd | line 42 | 17:33 |
| vidd | save changes, delete saved sessions, log-out and log in | 17:33 |
| fr4nk | kk i try | 17:33 |
| fr4nk | brb | 17:33 |
| ashdjones | I had a look at some other entries on that pastebin and I notice they are spam! | 17:34 |
| vidd | ashdjones, what are you talking about>?? | 17:35 |
| ashdjones | http://paste.ubuntu.com/75300/ | 17:35 |
| ashdjones | It seems to me like a robot is spamming it. | 17:35 |
| vidd | but it does no good, because no-one will ever look at that | 17:36 |
| vidd | (except you of course!) | 17:36 |
| ashdjones | Haha yeah, I just feel sorry for your server. | 17:36 |
| vidd | aint MY server | 17:37 |
| fr4nk | vidd i'am back, seems to work! | 17:37 |
| vidd | it should | 17:37 |
| ashdjones | I mean your as in the Ubuntu/Xubuntu community. | 17:37 |
| fr4nk | THX | 17:38 |
| vidd | np fr4nk | 17:38 |
| fr4nk | sry for flooding the channel ;) | 17:38 |
| vidd | just remember to pastebin next time =] | 17:38 |
| fr4nk | i'll do, added to favs xD | 17:38 |
| vidd | hehe | 17:38 |
| ashdjones | Unless it's spam. | 17:38 |
| vidd | bah....you can spam the pastebin all ya want | 17:39 |
| ashdjones | Where's your pride? ;) | 17:39 |
| fr4nk | how i can join automatic channels, if i connect to a server?? | 17:39 |
| vidd | using xchat? | 17:39 |
| fr4nk | i connect to ubuntu srv, an i auto join #ubuntu & #xubuntu | 17:40 |
| vidd | fr4nk, ^^^^ | 17:40 |
| fr4nk | yes xchat | 17:40 |
| vidd | ok....edit the server | 17:40 |
| vidd | enter the channels in the "autojoin" box | 17:40 |
| fr4nk | how!? oO | 17:40 |
| fr4nk | and where? | 17:41 |
| vidd | do you not see the "edit" button to the right of the server list? | 17:41 |
| fr4nk | nope | 17:42 |
| fr4nk | do you mean favs channels? | 17:42 |
| fr4nk | added now some | 17:42 |
| fr4nk | brb will try again to auto join......... | 17:42 |
| vidd | the format is #channel1,#channel2,#channel3 | 17:43 |
| fr4nk | vidd, kk thats it :D | 17:43 |
| vidd | ....... | 17:44 |
| fr4nk | yeah i am a linux noob, it runs in a virtual machine on my notebook | 17:45 |
| fr4nk | so me now afk | 17:45 |
| fr4nk | cya later....... :> | 17:45 |
| knome | oh hehe hi vidd | 17:47 |
| knome | i just left when you helloed me | 17:47 |
| vidd | knome, dint hurt...dint hurt .... =[ | 17:54 |
| vidd | =] | 17:54 |
| rdehler | on ibex, i keep getting this message gdm[{pid}]: WARNING: gdm_slave_xioerror_handler: Fatal X Error - Restarting :0 | 17:54 |
| rdehler | which of course restarts my xfce session | 17:54 |
| rdehler | any ideas on how i can troubleshoot? | 17:54 |
| vidd | rdehler, does it let you in eventually? | 17:55 |
| rdehler | yea i'm in | 17:55 |
| rdehler | it's when i'm doing random tasks | 17:55 |
| rdehler | like starting the update manager | 17:55 |
| rdehler | never the same ones | 17:55 |
| vidd | how is your hd space (particularly / partition) ram and swapspace? | 17:56 |
| rdehler | i'm from a virtual console now, the xfce session keeps crashing | 17:57 |
| rdehler | didn't happen before i upgraded to ibex =\ | 17:57 |
| vidd | ok...so it DONT let you in eventually | 17:58 |
| rdehler | no i'm in right now, but at some point it will crash again | 17:58 |
| vidd | which kernel? and 64 or i386? | 17:59 |
| rdehler | i386 2.6.20.16-generic | 17:59 |
| vidd | 20-16????? why such a relic kernel? i thought you upgraded | 18:00 |
| rdehler | not hte kernel =\ | 18:00 |
| rdehler | hmm k lemme try to get the new kernel working, bbiaf | 18:00 |
| rdehler | hmm latest kernel freezes my system | 18:09 |
| rdehler | that's probably why i'm using legacy =\ | 18:09 |
| vidd | rdehler, you have "custom drivers"? | 18:12 |
| rdehler | yes | 18:12 |
| rdehler | one for nvidia | 18:12 |
| vidd | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=861866 | 18:12 |
| vidd | looks like II breaks your video drivers | 18:13 |
| vidd | if you remove/rebuild them, you should be ok | 18:13 |
| rdehler | hmm | 18:14 |
| rdehler | i did that first thing actually | 18:14 |
| rdehler | lemme do it again though | 18:14 |
| vidd | remove the custome driver and re-upgrade your kernel | 18:14 |
| rdehler | k trying that | 18:16 |
| vidd | it might be the wacom driver and not your video though (acording to the post) | 18:16 |
| rdehler | how do i "re-upgrade" the kernel? | 18:16 |
| vidd | you said the new kernel froze your system..... | 18:16 |
| rdehler | yes it does | 18:16 |
| vidd | so you obviously logged in with the old kernel.... | 18:16 |
| rdehler | yes | 18:17 |
| vidd | sudo apt-get autoremove --purge [new kernel] | 18:17 |
| rdehler | k | 18:17 |
| vidd | then clear out your custom drivers | 18:17 |
| rdehler | giving that a try, thx | 18:18 |
| vidd | reboot, then sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade | 18:18 |
| * vidd had similar issues, and i backed up data and did a clean install | 18:18 | |
| fr4nk | is it possible to get tor,vidalis & privoxy for xubuntu? | 18:18 |
| vidd | if you have a seperate /home partition, you can clean install and keep your existing /home partition | 18:19 |
| vidd | fr4nk, yes | 18:19 |
| vidd | tor anyway | 18:19 |
| fr4nk | hm because i read: Do not use the packages in ubuntu's universe. They are not maintained and most likely old and therefore miss out on stability and possibly security fixes. | 18:19 |
| fr4nk | https://wiki.torproject.org/noreply/TheOnionRouter/TorOnDebian | 18:19 |
| fr4nk | hm... | 18:19 |
| vidd | then get the debs from there | 18:20 |
| vidd | but dont be surprised if your ISP starts yelling at you for using tor on dial-up | 18:20 |
| vidd | the company I work for closed out a large monthly contributer for tor-related usage | 18:22 |
| fr4nk | where di i get Qt 4.1 or later?? | 18:23 |
| fr4nk | or is it already installed? | 18:23 |
| vidd | fr4nk, try to apt-get install it | 18:23 |
| fr4nk | <-- linux noob....how? | 18:24 |
| * vidd will not assist with installing those services | 18:24 | |
| fr4nk | hmkay.... -_- | 18:24 |
| vidd | "sudo apt-get install [package name here] | 18:24 |
| vidd | or...use synaptic to find and install packages | 18:25 |
| jonnyboy27 | apt-get is deprecated in favour of aptitude, non? | 18:25 |
| fr4nk | package name i dont know.....well i will search now..... | 18:25 |
| vidd | jonnyboy27, your kidding....right? | 18:26 |
| jonnyboy27 | @vidd i thought it did better dependency management, esp wrt removing packages | 18:26 |
| * vidd would never use aptitude if he can avoid it (wich is simple since apt-get is fully functional) | 18:27 | |
| vidd | pft | 18:27 |
| vidd | aptitude is a text-based front end for apt | 18:27 |
| vidd | why bother with the additional overhead | 18:28 |
| vidd | ? | 18:28 |
| jonnyboy27 | yes, but also accepts command-line arguments a la apt-get | 18:28 |
| jonnyboy27 | since etch, it's been the debian package manager of choice | 18:28 |
| vidd | since etch....the name of the "stable" release since ...what....'03? | 18:29 |
| vidd | the difference between apt and aptitude is aptitude uses more resources | 18:30 |
| rdehler | vidd: k it's reinstalling 2.6.27-7-generic, but it installed the nvidia module again | 18:30 |
| rdehler | even though i removed it | 18:30 |
| fr4nk | how i can find out, if i have Package XY? | 18:30 |
| vidd | fr4nk, look in synaptic | 18:30 |
| rdehler | i think it found it in /etc/kernel/postinst.d | 18:30 |
| rdehler | lemme move that away and try again | 18:30 |
| vidd | if it has a green box, and something in the "installed version column, then yes you have it | 18:31 |
| jonnyboy27 | not that i want an argument, but etch is the current stable - 4.0 and was released april 07 not 03 | 18:31 |
| vidd | jonnyboy27, etch has been etch since '03 | 18:31 |
| vidd | regardless of what version of debian it is | 18:31 |
| fr4nk | some packages aren't listed, for expample openSSL or libevent or zlib....so how to find out if i have zlib installed? | 18:32 |
| vidd | etch = stable, sid = unstable | 18:32 |
| vidd | been that way since '03, will be that way in 2899 | 18:33 |
| vidd | i beleave the "relic" version is called lenny | 18:34 |
| Mopman | no | 18:34 |
| Mopman | lenny is testing | 18:34 |
| Mopman | i dunno what you mean by relic, i assuem you mean sarge | 18:34 |
| vidd | so etch, then lenny, then sid? | 18:34 |
| Mopman | yes | 18:34 |
| Mopman | and sarge is just the last etch | 18:34 |
| vidd | and next year, this years sid will be lenny, lenny will be etch, etc | 18:35 |
| Mopman | bonus points for getting the references :D (yeah i know its not hard, but i do think theyre clever :() | 18:35 |
| vidd | and apt will always be my prefered package manager =] | 18:36 |
| vidd | fr4nk, all the packages you have in your repos are listed | 18:36 |
| Mopman | i prefer pacman tbh, although admitting that in a xubuntu official channel... erm... better get my riot gear on :D | 18:37 |
| vidd | pacman? | 18:37 |
| vidd | fr4nk, strange, openssl is listed in my synaptic | 18:38 |
| vidd | fr4nk, libevent is "libevent1" in the repos | 18:39 |
| fr4nk | if i search for it, i cant see it | 18:39 |
| vidd | are you using that retarted "search" box? | 18:39 |
| fr4nk | omg | 18:40 |
| vidd | zlib is zlib1g | 18:40 |
| fr4nk | i was @the wrong prog..my fault | 18:40 |
| vidd | in terminal, type "sudo apt-get install libz[tab] and it will complete it for you | 18:41 |
| vidd | (this is why i LOVE apt | 18:41 |
| vidd | and why i HATE synaptic | 18:41 |
| vidd | oh...and jonnyboy27 aptitude does not have tab-autocomplete.....so it is WORTHLESS in my book | 18:42 |
| Mopman | i never knew you could tab complete package names on apt-get :/ | 18:42 |
| Mopman | is that an ubuntu feature rather than a standard one | 18:42 |
| Mopman | because i noticed ubuntu tells me to install packages if i forget to install git and try and git clone something :P | 18:43 |
| vidd | so far as i know, it is ubuntu...havent touched debian since '03! | 18:43 |
| fr4nk | hm tab doesnt autocomplete it... | 18:43 |
| vidd | fr4nk, then tab twice | 18:43 |
| fr4nk | i did | 18:43 |
| vidd | it will list all the possiblities | 18:43 |
| fr4nk | no it didnt work...dunno | 18:44 |
| vidd | dunno fr4nk i double-tapped the [tab] key and it lists all (19x3) possibilities | 18:45 |
| fr4nk | hmkay.......tab works fine i autocomplete foders etv but not this way | 18:45 |
| vidd | did you type "sudo apt-get install"? | 18:46 |
| vidd | (no quotes of course" | 18:46 |
| fr4nk | without sudo, because i was su before | 18:46 |
| vidd | root does not have tab-complete | 18:47 |
| Mopman | btw | 18:47 |
| Mopman | is there a reason you cant just use the tor package | 18:47 |
| fr4nk | *strange* y not?? | 18:47 |
| fr4nk | dunno, seems that i have already all packages i need to install tor | 18:48 |
| Mopman | just install tor via apt? | 18:48 |
| fr4nk | so i will try to install it now | 18:48 |
| fr4nk | nope...should i try? | 18:48 |
| Mopman | apt pulls dependencies in, you dont have to do it :P | 18:48 |
| vidd | because working as the user root is a.) stupid, b.) dangerous c.) not the ubuntu way | 18:48 |
| Mopman | d) often required. ;) | 18:48 |
| fr4nk | i dont work as root | 18:48 |
| fr4nk | onl in terminal | 18:48 |
| fr4nk | *y | 18:49 |
| vidd | Mopman, NEVER required....that is what sudo is for | 18:49 |
| Mopman | what do you think you are doing when you use sudo/ | 18:49 |
| vidd | Mopman, he isnt working with sudo....he is working as the user root | 18:49 |
| Mopman | thats no more stupid than using sudo, though, was my point | 18:49 |
| Mopman | unless you mean workign as root all the time when not needed | 18:49 |
| Mopman | thats pretty daft | 18:50 |
| vidd | fr4nk, you want tab-complete you need to sudo...not su | 18:50 |
| vidd | the whole reason they disabled the root account password is because its a major security hole | 18:51 |
| fr4nk | kk i'll remember from now on | 18:51 |
| fr4nk | btw apt-get ftw :D | 18:51 |
| Mopman | im so confused | 18:51 |
| vidd | Mopman, why? | 18:52 |
| Mopman | why are you manually installing dependencies, heh | 18:52 |
| Mopman | the tor package in intrepid pulls in libevent | 18:52 |
| vidd | becuase he doesnt understand that when you dpkg -i a package, you just sudo apt-get install -f | 18:53 |
| vidd | and all the dependencies get installed for you | 18:53 |
| vidd | (long live apt-get!) | 18:53 |
| Mopman | but why use the debs from the site at all | 18:53 |
| Mopman | the intrepid package is fully up to date | 18:53 |
| Mopman | the warning on the site is about debian, with its 18 month release cycles or w/e | 18:53 |
| vidd | Mopman, cuzz the ubuntu repos are broken (according to the site) | 18:53 |
| Mopman | the site says if you are using debian sarge | 18:54 |
| Mopman | unless im missing it | 18:54 |
| vidd | Mopman, i wont even go to thier site to look...... | 18:54 |
| vidd | im at work, and they have access to it blocked | 18:54 |
| Mopman | youre right, they do say not to use ubuntu | 18:55 |
| fr4nk | vidd, where do y come from? oO | 18:55 |
| fr4nk | <-- germany :> | 18:55 |
| Mopman | they do also supply a repo to add to your apt sources and use instead though | 18:55 |
| vidd | usa | 18:56 |
| vidd | tor=evil | 18:56 |
| fr4nk | :D | 18:56 |
| Mopman | tor dosent kill people, rappers do | 18:56 |
| vidd | only useful; for criminal activity | 18:57 |
| Mopman | haha | 18:57 |
| Mopman | your military uses it | 18:57 |
| fr4nk | :> | 18:57 |
| Mopman | thats as far as im gonna go on that discussion | 18:57 |
| vidd | like I said....... | 18:57 |
| Mopman | hehe im glad we were on the same page there | 18:57 |
| vidd | Mopman, the military uses it for legitimate, illegal activities | 18:58 |
| Mopman | but im not sure id agree that tor is ONLY useful for criminal activities | 18:58 |
| vidd | its for national security, so criminal activity is OK | 18:58 |
| Mopman | perhaps in the USA it dosent have much use outside that, but i know id probably end up using it was i say, from a country that decided it got to control what i read on the internet | 18:59 |
| Mopman | not mentioning any names | 18:59 |
| vidd | what other legitimate purpose is there? | 18:59 |
| cody-somerville | ... | 18:59 |
| Mopman | overseas journalists are rather fond of it, vidd | 18:59 |
| vidd | yes...so they can circumvent local laws | 19:00 |
| vidd | (that is criminal activity) | 19:00 |
| Mopman | uh not nessecarily | 19:00 |
| cody-somerville | Lets take this conversation elsewhere please | 19:00 |
| Mopman | there are other reasons why it might be a good idea to be a anonymous than "law" | 19:00 |
| fr4nk | just want to deinstall some progs which i dont need, but the app needs unusal long time for it.... something strange out there^^ | 19:08 |
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| atari | hi | 19:37 |
| atari | does anyone know how to get hotkeys (the app) working? | 19:37 |
| vidd | atari, not exactly sure what you mean | 19:40 |
| atari | $ hotkeys -b | 19:40 |
| vidd | you want a specific key combination to launch an app? | 19:40 |
| atari | : Program exiting...Locking assertion failure. Backtrace: | 19:40 |
| atari | vidd: i want my media keys to work | 19:40 |
| vidd | so....why not use the built-in hotkey app? | 19:41 |
| vidd | its in the settings manager | 19:41 |
| vidd | ah...ic y | 19:41 |
| atari | how can i use mute/restore? | 19:41 |
| atari | the keycoedes are working properly etc. but the dont work in the system | 19:42 |
| vidd | your trying to launch hotkeys, wich is already launched on boot | 19:42 |
| vidd | you can only have one hotjkeys running at a time | 19:42 |
| atari | i have no process called hotkeys running | 19:42 |
| vidd | atari, but you do.... | 19:43 |
| vidd | its part of the system | 19:43 |
| atari | i dont see any process called hotkeys with ps aux | 19:43 |
| vidd | go into your settings manager and edit them there | 19:43 |
| atari | just tell me: how can i do the mute/un-mute app? | 19:43 |
| vidd | atari, SET UP THE KEYS IN SETTING MANAGER!!!!!!! | 19:45 |
| atari | keyboard->shortcuts ? | 19:45 |
| atari | there? | 19:45 |
| vidd | or...simply add the volume manager to your panel | 19:45 |
| atari | i have a wheel on my keyboard to manage the loudness... i'd like to use that one | 19:46 |
| vidd | good luck with that | 19:46 |
| atari | the only problem is the mute/un-mute part | 19:46 |
| vidd | do you have the volume manager app on your panel? | 19:46 |
| atari | yes i do | 19:46 |
| vidd | and it dont work? | 19:46 |
| vidd | what kind of keyboard? | 19:47 |
| atari | the volume app is working. louder and less loud with the keyboard wheel is working too. the mute part would work as well. but i want to restore the loudness when i hit the mute button a second time | 19:47 |
| Odd-rationale | atari: so you have a wheel on your keyboard you want to use to control your volume? | 19:47 |
| atari | so i'm looking for the script name which does it normally | 19:47 |
| atari | Odd-rationale: that's working as i added aumix for xf86audiolower/raisevolume | 19:48 |
| atari | vidd: on the back i just says: logitech cordless keyboard | 19:48 |
| atari | s/i/it | 19:48 |
| * vidd didnt have to add anything but the panel app to get this stuff to work | 19:49 | |
| Hikefu | so you're just trying to add a key combo to mute? | 19:49 |
| atari | no | 19:49 |
| atari | that's what i just did for the volume | 19:50 |
| Hikefu | then what exactly are you trying to do? | 19:50 |
| atari | i want to mute if i press once. and i want the sound to get b ack to its volume selected before, when i press the mute button again | 19:50 |
| vidd | atari, so you added the stuff for the mute BEFORE you added the panel app? | 19:50 |
| atari | vidd: "stuff"? | 19:51 |
| atari | vidd: i just took my old home dir | 19:51 |
| vidd | that's working as i added aumix for xf86audiolower/raisevolume | 19:51 |
| vidd | that "stuff" | 19:51 |
| Hikefu | I'm not sure about the mute buttonn, but amixer -q set Master mute or amixer -q set Master unmute should work if you make a key combo. | 19:51 |
| atari | vidd: because i already had a config in my home i needed to add them manually | 19:51 |
| vidd | did you add that "stuff" BEFORE or AFTER you added the panel app | 19:52 |
| atari | Hikefu: but how to call them on the same key? | 19:52 |
| vidd | did you add that "stuff" BEFORE or AFTER you added the panel app atari | 19:52 |
| atari | vidd: after as i already had it on my old system | 19:52 |
| Hikefu | atari, I'm not sure. Does it matter? | 19:52 |
| atari | Hikefu: | 19:53 |
| vidd | the panel app should enable those keys and functions automatically | 19:53 |
| atari | Hikefu: afaik you can only specify one app to a key | 19:53 |
| vidd | you should not have to add anything at all | 19:53 |
| Hikefu | atari, so make something lie ctrl-alt-up and ctrl-alt-down or something to mute/unmute | 19:54 |
| Hikefu | that's what i do in openbox | 19:54 |
| Odd-rationale | atari: you can create a script that if the volume is mute, then unmut. and if it is unmute, then mute. | 19:54 |
| atari | i have a special mute key. which worked very well with hotkeys on debian etch. that's the why | 19:54 |
| vidd | atari, first, try letting the panel app do the job | 19:55 |
| vidd | since your "already there in the config when i installed" stuff is preventing it from working properly | 19:55 |
| nat2610 | is Xfce lighter than gnome ? I m trying to find out what's the best distribution for my umpc | 19:55 |
| Odd-rationale | nat2610: yes. xfce by itself, it lighter than gnome. | 19:56 |
| Hikefu | yes sir it is | 19:56 |
| atari | vidd: so logout. mv .config .config.old and login again should get it working? | 19:56 |
| nat2610 | when you say by itselft does it means that at the end, it won't be that light ? | 19:57 |
| Odd-rationale | nat2610: well, firefox and the like will always be a resource hog... | 19:57 |
| Odd-rationale | the desktop environment itself, however, is defintely lighter... | 19:57 |
| nat2610 | Odd-rationale, yeah but that would be a common issue to any distro ... I guess I can switch to opera it it's too slow | 19:57 |
| vidd | atari, yes *should* | 19:58 |
| Odd-rationale | nat2610: correct, or epiphany, midori, etc. | 19:58 |
| vidd | id do this before beating your head against the wall =] | 19:58 |
| vidd | if this doenst work, buy a helmet ! | 19:58 |
| vidd | =] | 19:58 |
| atari | vidd: i already have one :P | 19:59 |
| atari | vidd: lets try it out | 19:59 |
| nat2610 | ok ... that's gonna be my side project for the day :) ... does anybody have a umpc running xubuntu on this chan ? | 20:00 |
| vidd | atari, good luck | 20:00 |
| atari | vidd: the mute is working but not the un-mute | 20:01 |
| vidd | strange | 20:03 |
| atari | actually if i look at the shorcut section i know why un-mute isnt working... | 20:03 |
| atari | as for mute there is aumix -v0 | 20:03 |
| atari | that's it. so un-mute can not work | 20:03 |
| * vidd is going home | 20:03 | |
| Odd-rationale | atari: do you want to mute Master? | 20:04 |
| atari | Odd-rationale: i dont care which exact channel... as long as it mutes and un-mutes | 20:04 |
| Odd-rationale | atari: k can you pastebin the output of `amixer get Master` | 20:05 |
| atari | Odd-rationale: Capabilities: pvolume pvolume-joined pswitch pswitch-joined | 20:05 |
| atari | Odd-rationale: you need that one? | 20:05 |
| Odd-rationale | yeah... the whole thing in a pastebin | 20:06 |
| atari | http://nopaste.syscp.org/333 | 20:11 |
| Odd-rationale | atari: hmm. ok. do you know shell scripting? i think i can hack up a quick script that will do the trick for you... | 20:13 |
| atari | Odd-rationale: i could do it by myself. thats not the need... | 20:13 |
| atari | Odd-rationale: but damn... on etch i had hotkeys which did the job very well... | 20:13 |
| Odd-rationale | atari: obviously, aumix -v0 will not do the trick... | 20:15 |
| Odd-rationale | why not just find out what command etch used? | 20:16 |
| atari | Odd-rationale: do you know hotkeys? (the daemon) | 20:16 |
| Odd-rationale | no | 20:16 |
| atari | Odd-rationale: on just used "hotkeys" | 20:16 |
| atari | but hotkeys -b -L7 -Z | 20:16 |
| atari | Segmentation fault | 20:16 |
| atari | that's what i get on ubuntu | 20:16 |
| atari | hotkeys had nice OSD support and all that stuff | 20:17 |
| Odd-rationale | never heard of hotkeys... | 20:18 |
| atari | its really great | 20:20 |
| atari | at least in my oppinion ;) | 20:20 |
| Odd-rationale | !info hotkeys | 20:20 |
| ubottu | hotkeys (source: hotkeys): A hotkeys daemon for your Internet/multimedia keyboard in X. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.7.4-0.1 (intrepid), package size 142 kB, installed size 384 kB | 20:20 |
| atari | http://nopaste.syscp.org/334 | 20:22 |
| dcolish | hotkeys has very limited support for keyboards. it should be keyboard agnostic | 20:22 |
| atari | that's the output i get | 20:22 |
| atari | dcolish: sure. but the sound part of it is really great | 20:23 |
| dcolish | ok | 20:23 |
| dcolish | but it doesnt work with my keyboard anyway | 20:24 |
| fr4nk | how i can install *deb Packages? | 20:24 |
| atari | it works with every keyboard which supports normal key codes | 20:24 |
| atari | fr4nk: dpkg -i <file>.deb | 20:24 |
| fr4nk | thx^^ | 20:24 |
| atari | np | 20:24 |
| Hikefu | sudo dpkg -i <file>.deb | 20:24 |
| dcolish | atari: i take it back, i can define support with an xml config file | 20:26 |
| atari | dcolish: yeah ;) | 20:26 |
| atari | dcolish: it needs some time to setup. but once its working.... wow :) | 20:26 |
| jonnyboy27 | you can also use gdebi if you prefer the graphical approach to installing packages | 20:27 |
| dcolish | atari: how is this better than xmodmap? or any of the other xfce key mapping? | 20:27 |
| fr4nk | is it also possible to install rpm packages under ubuntu? | 20:27 |
| dcolish | fr4nk: yeah if you install rpm | 20:28 |
| Hikefu | !alien | 20:28 |
| ubottu | RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous and unsupported) | 20:28 |
| dcolish | but why woudl you want to | 20:28 |
| atari | dcolish: the coolest feature is the OSD of what it's doing if you enable it ;) | 20:28 |
| fr4nk | to install java runtime env for FF | 20:28 |
| fr4nk | i did t per hand but maybe there is a more comfortable way | 20:29 |
| dcolish | fr4nk: uh java doesn't require rpms. maybe i am missing the point? | 20:29 |
| cody-somerville | !java | 20:29 |
| ubottu | To install a Java runtime/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java6-jre from the !Multiverse repository | 20:29 |
| Hikefu | sudo apt-get install xubunxu-extras gets you set up with flash, java, and some other useful things | 20:29 |
| Hikefu | xubuntu-extras | 20:29 |
| fr4nk | ok i'll try this | 20:29 |
| dcolish | Hikefu: that give you gjc i think? | 20:29 |
| dcolish | !xubuntu-extras | 20:30 |
| ubottu | Sorry, I don't know anything about xubuntu-extras | 20:30 |
| Hikefu | oh, yeah, and I forget I need sun-java5 | 20:30 |
| Hikefu | to play pogo games | 20:30 |
| dcolish | or run eclipse, netbeans or anything decent | 20:30 |
| Hikefu | but you I install the extras then sun java5 and then sudo update-alternatives --config java to get it straight | 20:31 |
| dcolish | Hikefu: I find it much easier to use the sun binary installer and just set my java home, jrockit is good too | 20:31 |
| Hikefu | Yeah, I suppose that's not a bad idea. I can't wait until there is a 64 bit java plugin. These work arounds are driving me insane and keeping in 32 bit land. | 20:33 |
| Hikefu | !jrockit | 20:33 |
| ubottu | Sorry, I don't know anything about jrockit | 20:33 |
| dcolish | there is 64 java if you dont use apt | 20:34 |
| dcolish | jrockit is only available from oracle | 20:34 |
| Hikefu | dcolish, I think the plugin isn't complete somehow. It mostly works, but I play a lot of chess on pogo and it doesn't work properly. | 20:36 |
| Hikefu | I can load game rooms, but get blank screens. | 20:36 |
| Hikefu | Sun java 5 plugin 32 bit is the only one that works | 20:36 |
| dcolish | Hikefu: are you talking about browser plugins? | 20:37 |
| Hikefu | Perhaps it's the plugin, not the java version itself | 20:37 |
| Hikefu | Yes | 20:37 |
| dcolish | ah, yeah thats going to be different | 20:38 |
| dcolish | i know fedora just included the icedtea browser plugin, wonder if ubuntu has done the same | 20:38 |
| dcolish | !icedtea | 20:39 |
| ubottu | Sorry, I don't know anything about icedtea | 20:39 |
| Hikefu | i think so. i was thinking of just using the most current java and making a script that sets sun java 5 plugin when i open epiphany. i only use it to play chess, so I could switch the java version, open browser, and then have it reset. | 20:40 |
| Hikefu | otherwise, i'm on firefox | 20:40 |
| dcolish | its there, let me find the package | 20:40 |
| dcolish | !icedtea-gcjwebplugin | 20:41 |
| ubottu | Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) | 20:41 |
| Hikefu | i see iced-tea6 and the gcjwebplugin | 20:41 |
| dcolish | well thats the plugin, looks experimental at best | 20:41 |
| Hikefu | icedtea6 | 20:41 |
| dcolish | there should be an icedtea7 floating around somewhere | 20:41 |
| Hikefu | okay. i'll keep an eye on it in the future. | 20:41 |
| fr4nk | my file manager doesnt respond....what can i do now? | 21:00 |
| fr4nk | xubuntu works under a vmware | 21:00 |
| fr4nk | normal installation | 21:00 |
| fr4nk | 5gb hdd | 21:00 |
| fr4nk | 512MB ram | 21:00 |
| === tuna-fish is now known as tuna | ||
| Justinm91 | I have documentation of a problem I have, I just have no idea what to do. Can anyone offer me some help? | 22:33 |
| dcolish | whats the issue | 22:34 |
| Justinm91 | Note I have Intreped Ibex, not the OS listed here: | 22:34 |
| Justinm91 | Ah, my wireless card reader is not picking up my card | 22:34 |
| Justinm91 | http://lists.shmoo.com/pipermail/hostap/2003-June/003270.html | 22:34 |
| Justinm91 | And it seems someone is having a simmilar problem on the forums | 22:36 |
| Justinm91 | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=959313 | 22:36 |
| knome | "wireless card reader" ? | 22:37 |
| Justinm91 | erm, dunno exactly what to call it | 22:38 |
| knome | pc card reader? | 22:38 |
| Justinm91 | Guess that would be it... | 22:39 |
| knome | Justinm91, i have no experiences with those, but somebody might. just hang around and hopefully somebody will turn out. you can also ask #ubuntu meanwhile, because this is not xubuntu specific. | 22:40 |
| vasileios | What are the minimum system requirements for Xubuntu? like cpu and ram? | 22:41 |
| zoredache_ | 192MB of ram is required to install with the livecd. The cpu could be a 600 mhz or better | 22:43 |
| knome | vasileios, you can expect slow performance with 192MB ram though.. | 22:44 |
| Shaba1 | hey if it runs on my ancient AMD 1300 256mb ram laptop it will run on anything | 22:44 |
| zoredache_ | Having enough ram will make a biggere difference then slower processor | 22:44 |
| === zoredache_ is now known as zoredache | ||
| vasileios | Thanks! | 22:44 |
| Shaba1 | I know zoredache | 22:44 |
| Shaba1 | unfortunately my landlord likes his rent on a regular basis. | 22:44 |
| zoredache | you could always give up eating... | 22:45 |
| Shaba1 | been there done that | 22:45 |
| Shaba1 | :) | 22:45 |
| Shaba1 | It was no fun | 22:46 |
| granjero | hi | 23:03 |
| granjero | i m in a live session tryying to read my ntfs partitions | 23:03 |
| granjero | i m too newbie ando i don t know the command | 23:03 |
| zoredache | !ntfs-3g | 23:04 |
| granjero | and my english is a bit rusty | 23:04 |
| ubottu | ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions | 23:04 |
| knome | zoredache, damn you were faster ;) | 23:04 |
| granjero | tnx ubottu | 23:04 |
| granjero | i run ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g Leyendo lista de paquetes... Hecho Creando árbol de dependencias Leyendo la información de estado... Hecho ntfs-3g ya está en su versión más reciente. 0 actualizados, 0 se instalarán, 0 para eliminar y 1 no actualizados. | 23:05 |
| granjero | ls -l should list all my drives | 23:06 |
| granjero | dont t it? | 23:06 |
| knome | granjero, nope, it shows the contents of a folder + permissions. | 23:09 |
| granjero | wich is the command? | 23:09 |
| granjero | knome: how can i see the ntfs partition? | 23:09 |
| knome | mount shows mounted partitions. | 23:09 |
| === dcolish is now known as Guest11650 | ||
| granjero | sorry i don understand where is i | 23:11 |
| granjero | ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ mount proc on /proc type proc (rw) sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw) tmpfs on /lib/modules/2.6.24-19-generic/volatile type tmpfs (rw,mode=0755) tmpfs on /lib/modules/2.6.24-19-generic/volatile type tmpfs (rw,mode=0755) varrun on /var/run type tmpfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,mode=0755) varlock on /var/lock type tmpfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,mode=1777) udev on /dev type tmpfs (rw,mode=0755) devshm on /dev/shm ty | 23:11 |
| granjero | sorry iĺl paste it in pastebin | 23:12 |
| granjero | http://paste.ubuntu.com/75437/ | 23:12 |
| knome | granjero, did you read this page? -> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions/ThirdPartyNTFS3G | 23:15 |
| granjero | thanx knome | 23:28 |
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