/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2008/11/22/#kubuntu-devel.txt

=== jtechidna is now known as JontheEchidna
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jjesseevening01:49
JontheEchidnahi01:50
jjessehello JontheEchidna01:50
JontheEchidnasup?01:52
jjessenot much, wife cooking so i01:52
jjesseim hanging out in the kitchen keeping her company01:53
* JontheEchidna is rejoicing that cmake is done compiling and is installing01:53
* JontheEchidna is sighing since the build just failed01:53
jjesseyay01:53
jjessebunmmer on the build failure01:54
DaSkreecHafter it finished compiling?01:54
JontheEchidnameh01:54
JontheEchidna/tmp is full01:54
JontheEchidnathat would do it01:58
JontheEchidnammm, fresh oranges02:10
jjessemmmm02:12
jjesseanyone having problems with firefox not saving things like being logged in etc?02:15
ryanakcajjesse: I think so. Haven't looked in closely... I just assumed that I was getting logged out after <x> hours...02:21
jjessei get it for facebook, launchpad and google mail02:22
ryanakcajjesse: but now that I think of it, I never used to need to log in once I had done it...02:22
ryanakcagmail works... facebook I always get logged out... I'll check LP...02:22
ryanakcajjesse: still signed in on LP02:23
jjessehrmm wonder if it is just me02:24
DaSkreecHyou too?03:10
DaSkreecHgmail just stopped working for me03:11
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d-millerhi, the links to the alternative torrents on http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu/download are wrong - they take you into the desktop/ dir instead of alternative/11:23
HobbseeRiddell: ^11:23
NightroseHobbsee: he is on holiday11:28
Hobbseeoh11:28
Hobbseethat's right11:29
Nightroseryanakca: ^11:29
_SimeRiddell takes holidays(?!?)11:42
Nightroseat least he said so ;-)11:53
Nightrosewho knows11:54
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Arbyhooray, just found my first jaunty bug report14:22
Arby:)14:22
jjessehoray14:28
Arbydoes kpilot still exist or has it been replaced by something else?14:41
Arbybug 26360 looks pretty dead. as does the corresponding upstream bug.14:42
ubottuLaunchpad bug 26360 in kdepim "kpilotDaemon crashes when "Backing up: Blazer"" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2636014:42
Arbyand there doesn't seem to be a kpilot package in intrepid14:43
glade88strange, can someone please check this.. launch wallet and choose to configure it from systray.. does it give a permission error?14:44
Arbyfor me it opens KDE Wallet - KDE control module14:47
glade88doesnt give you a kcmshell error?14:48
glade88Arby: probably because you *just* provided the root password. can you please try after the timeout expires where it should again ask for password..?14:49
Arbyglade88: no, my kwallet has been open since I booted the machine this morning14:50
Arbyso it's several hours since I gave it the root password14:50
glade88Arby: hm.. ok ty14:50
glade88reopenning it still shows the problem.. I'll play around with the file's permissions I guess14:51
ScottK-laptopWorks fine here too.14:54
Arbyif a bug is marked Resolved Works for me in KDE can we close the lp bug?15:20
Arbyparticularly as it's been inactive for 9months15:20
glade88Arby: 9 months oO.. should lp janitor close it automatically?15:35
glade88^^^ if untouched15:35
ArbyIt's not untouched as such, just outdated15:36
Arbyand I've never been clear how lp janitor works15:36
Arbyor if we even had it 9 months ago15:37
glade88that makes it untouched.. if not touched for more than 30 days (idk correctly how long), it is closed irrespective of how many replies it had..15:37
glade88or maybe that's the case for unconfirmed bugs.. :/15:37
Arbyit's set to confirmed so maybe that blocks lp janitor15:37
Arbywhich would make sense15:37
glade88probably..15:37
ScottKJanitor only touches incomplete, no response bugs.15:38
glade88ScottK: not no response. but incomplete15:39
ScottKCorrect15:40
ArbyScottK: what's your opinion on bug 110454 ?15:41
ubottuLaunchpad bug 110454 in kdepim "[apport] akregator crashed with SIGSEGV in QGDict::look_int()" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/11045415:41
Arbycould that be closed?15:41
jpdssmarter: Pong.15:43
smarterhey jpds, the ping was only because jtechidna needed an op15:45
jpdssmarter: Ah, trop tard. D'acord.15:45
ScottKArby: I'd mark it incomplete and say that upstream thinks it's fixed in 4.1.3 and ask if it still happens.15:45
Arbyok15:45
seeleknetworkmanager doesnt eat as much memory as it used to, but 150MB seems excessive15:50
glade88wow. it's just 2.3MB for me.. and 9mb shared..15:52
Arbyapachelogger: you asked for info in bug 107107 are you happy for me to close it now?15:58
ubottuLaunchpad bug 107107 in kdepim "KMail prevents encryption, if the target key is not ultimately trusted or (locally) signed" [Unknown,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/10710715:58
Arbyit's been more than a month15:58
ScottKNote to self: Don't do the bug report using Konqueror when it's a Konqueror crash bug you're replicating.15:59
Arbyhehe15:59
ScottKArby: Just from the title, I think that's a feature, not a bug.15:59
ArbyScottK: there is a fairly lengthy debate about it actually16:00
Arbymy feeling is to close it16:00
ArbyI'm just always wary of closing bugs too soon16:01
apachelogger~np16:01
kubotuapachelogger is listening to "Red Haired Mary" by The Clancy Brothers [Reunion, 2005]16:01
apacheloggerArby: IMHO it is wishlist and shouldn't be closed unless either KDE or Debian rejects it16:03
ScottKArby: Now that I've read the bug (and the upstream one), I think it should be left open.16:03
ScottKWhat apachelogger said.16:04
Arbythat's why I asked :)16:04
NCommanderRiddell, ping17:05
NCommanderactually17:05
NCommanderapachelogger, ping17:05
apacheloggerNCommander: pong17:05
NCommanderapachelogger, when is the rest of 4.2 alpha 1 going to be uploaded17:05
apacheloggernevar17:06
NCommanderI see a *lot* of 4.1.217:06
apacheloggerbeta1 is coming mondayish17:06
NCommanderOk, when's alpha 2 oging?17:06
NCommanderoh17:06
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ScottKSince Riddell's on vacation and it's post-alpha1, I decided to take it upon myself to do an intitial update of kubuntu-meta for Jaunty.19:58
ScottKNCommander: We've got kubuntu-desktop for armel now (once the updated meta package builds).19:59
Tm_TScottK: oh, nice20:05
NCommanderScottK, kubuntu-meta only will depend on installable packages20:10
NCommander(its how germinate works)20:11
ScottKNCommander: It has a pretty fair selection at this point.20:11
ScottKEasy enough to update later.20:11
NCommanderfair enough20:11
ScottKI mainly did it to unseed guidance-power-manager so it at least drops to Universe and hopefully gets removed.20:12
ScottKDecided to go ahead to do a more complete update while I had it sitting there.20:14
NCommanderyay20:15
ScottKNew upstream releases of sip4-qt3 and python-qt3 just uploaded to Debian.20:27
JontheEchidnaLooks like two plasmoids I packaged last time around can get removed since they're in kdeplasma-addons now20:29
smarterJontheEchidna: go fill a RM request :p20:46
JontheEchidnaI usually just ask Riddell to do such things :P20:46
ScottKJontheEchidna: Filing a removal bug is the correct way.  Since Riddell on vacation, you may as well practice.20:47
* ScottK makes notes for JontheEchidna's MOTU application.20:48
JontheEchidnakk20:49
JontheEchidnabug 301084 and bug 30108320:55
ubottuLaunchpad bug 301084 in plasmoid-previewer "Request for removal from archive (plasmoid-previewer)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/30108420:55
ubottuLaunchpad bug 301083 in plasmoid-lancelot "Request for removal from archive (plasmoid-lancelot)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/30108320:55
JontheEchidnaWould I want to ping/subscribe an archive admin?20:57
RiddellJontheEchidna: subscrine ubuntu-archive21:02
Riddellthen look up auberge de jaunese near rue des canettes, paris21:03
Nightrosehehe21:05
Nightrosehaving a good time Riddell?21:06
Riddellgetting colder need to find bed n810 not working with google maps21:07
Nightroseah bad21:07
glade88Riddell: n81 should work fine21:08
glade88n810 o21:08
Riddellwell it ndoesn't21:09
ScottKJontheEchidna: Do you want the binary removed too?  If the new package uses the same binary name you don't want that removed.21:10
JontheEchidnaScottK: We're not separating the plasmoids in kdeplasma-addons in to binary packages21:10
ScottKOK.  It's fine then.21:11
ScottKSpeaking of it's getting colder ...21:12
glade88Riddell: try nokia maps 2 beta21:12
* ScottK wanders of to find his children.21:12
smarterhey Riddell21:15
smarterit's jeunesse btw ;)21:15
NCommanderhey Riddell21:15
glade88JontheEchidna: here goes the useless bug: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase-workspace/+bug/301090 :)21:16
ubottuUbuntu bug 301090 in kdebase-workspace "systemsettings->Appearance->Windows preview is drawn incorrectly" [Undecided,New]21:16
JontheEchidnalol21:17
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jdongam I correct in seeing for some reason Powerdevil supports the turning off of CPUs?21:42
jdongIMO this is a very bad idea (tm) -- fake-unhotplugging a core on dual-cores actually causes it to stick to the C0 highest power state, which wastes more power.21:43
jdonginstead I suggest using an option that activates sched_mc_powersavings21:43
* JontheEchidna has never used powerdevil21:44
jdongI mean, the idea came from Suse's powersaved which DID "unplug a CPU" in the most aggressive power savings mode21:45
jdongbut people observed that it caused a 3-watt spike in power usage :)21:45
jdongand Intel later confirmed that for their chips, hot-unplugging a CPU locks it in the highest power state21:46
jdongsched_mc_powersavings just forces all light loads to be handled by a paricular core so the other stays idle longer21:46
* Nightrose refers jdong to powerdevil's upstream (drf__ iirc)22:05
smarterapachelogger: is the new kde-nightly >= 4.1.80?22:10
smarterapparently yes :)22:44
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