[00:05] <sourcemaker> with kubuntu 8.10 my host-only connection is not working
[00:05] <sourcemaker> everthink is configured right I think... but there is no connection inside the guest
[00:21] <woody86> how can I get rid of the black background on conky?
[00:23] <TheWood1978> can anyone tell me how to check whats mounted to where please?
[00:26] <TheWood1978> jeez so many peeps here and not one talking wow
[00:49] <nick77> i am not talking because i do not want to interfere with the serious business
[00:54] <woody86> why aren't my settings being saved? I have to readjust a lot of the settings for different apps, and I keep having to add a clock to my panel everytime I restart my comp?
[00:56] <jandry> hola
[00:59] <burn_> what wrong with this new ati radeon drivers and ati catalyst, on 8.04 hardy drivers worked fine, unitl newest version of ati catalyst, i install them and cannot run ati catalyst contrl center, and when i choos propriatry drivers from system setting and restart the comp i get the message drivers 8.556 allready installed on this kernex, and i need to use xfix to restore to default so i can run again kde
[01:00] <burn_> but can not rune ati catalyst control centar
[02:05] <fireball> hey there, having trouble with mount permissions on cd drive after sudo disaster, please help
[02:06] <fireball> [  232.894360] UDF-fs: No fileset found
[02:06] <fireball> [  401.381995] UDF-fs: No fileset found
[02:07] <paz> #ubuntu-br
[02:07] <mrksbrd> what would cause bootup not to contunue unless holding down a key on keyboard?
[02:10] <fireball> hello?
[02:10] <pteague> hal is not detecting my usb stick
[02:14] <mrksbrd> what would cause bootup not to contunue on 8.10 unless holding down a key on keyboard?
[02:17] <fireball> hey mrk, where s everybody?
[02:17] <fireball> have you tried recovery mode?
[02:17] <mrksbrd> dunno....was wondering that myself
[02:18] <paz> what is a very good?  DreaMule for Linux 3.1 or aMule 2.2.2
[02:18] <mrksbrd> haven't tried revovery mode, my prob starts from initial install
[02:18] <fireball> sounds like meybe graphics driver? I'm no xpert
[02:19] <mrksbrd> maybe, they said there are a few glitches w/ nvidia cards
[02:20] <fireball> truth. You need to have the unrestricted repositories marked
[02:20] <fireball> or try the "envy" package
[02:20] <mrksbrd> already done
[02:21] <fireball> including envy?
[02:21] <mrksbrd> not envy yet
[02:21] <mrksbrd> forgot about that one
[02:22] <fireball> good automatic stuff for ati and nvidia, but once its set, only use that to change graphics configuration
[02:22] <fireball> not system settings, they clash a little in the xconfig file
[02:23] <mrksbrd> yea i used it b4, and had that prob
[02:30] <mrksbrd> fireball: do u use 8.10?
[02:30] <fireball> yes
[02:30] <mrksbrd> how do you arrange icons on desktop now?
[02:30] <fireball> i think
[02:30] <fireball> windows style. . .don't hate me
[02:31] <mrksbrd> doesn't appear to be a simple right click anymore
[02:31] <fireball> huh?
[02:32] <mrksbrd> in 8.04, all u needed to do is righ click, menu would pop up....select icons...by name.....and thats it
[02:33] <fireball> i think you've ost me, but i'm a little slow lately
[02:33] <mrksbrd> lol....what i'm trying to do is arrange icons on desktop by name
[02:42] <patch_> hey room
[02:43] <patch_> I just installed 8.10   can someone help me by telling me what programs I should install as a start? I mean I know i need to install firefox and thunderbird, but ne1 else have recommendations?
[02:46] <patch87_> is any one here able to answer my question?
[02:46] <bazhang> check the package manager
[02:47] <bazhang> No one knows what you need/want
[02:47] <patch87_> oh i see what your sayin... well... i would like to customize the theme to something better.. what would i use for that? emerald?
[02:48] <bazhang> kde-look.org for themes
[02:48] <patch87_> ok.. thanks. im used to Gnome so what about for IM? is Kopete ok or is pidgin or something like that better?
[02:49] <bazhang> gnome apps work fine in kde, or you can check in the package manager for the kde equivalents; best to try them out to see what fits you best
[02:50] <patch87_> ok.. thanks..  ill see what i can dig up
[02:52] <mot_> anybody had any trouble playing newer movies in 8.10?
[02:52] <mot_> i have all of the right packages and watch dvds all the time
[02:52] <mot_> but my players complain about libdvdcss (definitely there) with certain newer movies
[02:52] <mot_> had the same problem last weekend with 'leatherheads' and i googled it and it appears newere dvds are using a diff. encryption schemata
[02:52] <mot_> same problem now with 'just add water' -- anybody else figure out a way around this year?
[02:53] <mot_> or is there a development version of libdvdcss that perhaps fixes this?
[02:56] <mot_> huh now i can't play any dvds. shit
[03:10] <Werenerd> you guys ever have one of those days when you just feel like Linux can do anything?
[03:17] <raju> hello ppl
[03:59] <concernedcitizen> hi guys i've upgraded to interprid
[03:59] <concernedcitizen> and I hate kde 4 :(
[03:59] <Konde> hola
[03:59] <concernedcitizen> is there anyway to disable all the flashy stuff
[03:59] <jabrroa> uuuse ubuntu :)
[03:59] <Konde> uy
[03:59] <Konde> I speak spanish
[03:59]  * ezeql Nena Juguetona por Miguel Conejito Alejandro [02:10m/128kbps/44kHz]
[04:00] <ubuntu_> hey
[04:00] <mr---t-> !es
[04:00] <jabrroa> hehe those bots crack me up
[04:00] <jabrroa> !hell
[04:00] <jabrroa> hehe :)
[04:01] <ubuntu_> (*)
[04:01] <Konde> ubottu: Ok, thanks!!!
[04:01] <jabrroa> !anything
[04:01] <jabrroa> hahaha
[04:01] <jabrroa> haha
[04:02] <ubuntu_> any one der
[04:02] <concernedcitizen> anyone?
[04:02] <ubuntu_> ya
[04:02] <jabrroa> nope
[04:03] <ubuntu_> hey u
[04:03] <binMonkey> !birthing no babies
[04:03] <binMonkey> !birthingnobabies
[04:03] <stdin> !botabuse
[04:03] <binMonkey> dang.
[04:05] <binMonkey> concernedcitizen: look in settings.  you can disable desktop effects.  it's still pretty disco-y, though.
[04:08] <snarkster> has anyone else been having the share folder thing crash when trying to add a share?
[04:13] <snarkster> listne to those crickets
[04:16] <Lindows1> okay, so I have kubuntu 8.1 mostly work, except, when I log in, it asks for ksudo for every single thing that loads...
[04:16] <Lindows1> how do I fix that?
[04:17] <groms> Hi. what are ide harddisks in kubuntu's livecd?
[04:17] <Lindows1> I think /dev/sda?
[04:18] <groms> Lindows1: were you previously running anything as root? it will load kdesu if you are resuming a previous session in that case.
[04:18] <groms> no i don't have any sd* or hd* devices
[04:19] <groms> oh wait i do have sda.
[04:19] <david> how do you activate restricted drivers in 4.1?
[04:19] <Lindows1> I was running as root
[04:19] <Lindows1> how do I change the permissions back?
[04:19] <groms> hm thought udev used hd* for ide
[04:19] <groms> oh well thx
[04:20] <groms> Lindows1: I don't think you do... just run a default session or load those programs either through kde's gui or from a terminal as your regular user.
[04:20] <draik> Does anyone else here get an error with Kopete when trying to use the Yahoo messenger? "Error message: 1 - name lookup has failed"
[04:21] <tuanpham> hi all
[04:21] <tuanpham> a question for new day
[04:21] <Lindows1> I have to say, 8.1 was the worst release ever
[04:21] <groms> also, i haven't used sudo... is there a way to get a pseudo-root user at least to prevent typing sudo a thousand times?
[04:21] <Lindows1> broke just about everything
[04:21] <groms> I'm really just installing gentoo.
[04:21] <Lindows1> su
[04:22] <tuanpham> does anybody know that the percentage of User use UBUNTU and KUBUNTU ?
[04:22] <Lindows1> su, password, then you're good
[04:22] <Lindows1> then I think exit when you're done
[04:22] <Lindows1> there is also gsu for groups
[04:22] <Lindows1> gsu <group> then password
[04:23] <buggnout> can anyone tell me how to activate restricted drivers in 4.1?
[04:23] <Lindows1> under applications->system->hardware drivers
[04:23] <Lindows1> then select the one you want to use
[04:23] <groms> restricted drivers?
[04:24] <Lindows1> the other option is going through the vendor
[04:24] <Lindows1> i screwed my last installation trying to install 177.82 nvidia drivers
[04:24] <Lindows1> dont recommend it
[04:24] <Lindows1> xorg sucks
[04:24] <Lindows1> xorg sucks...really bad
[04:24] <buggnout> thnx!!
[04:24] <buggnout> out
[04:25] <groms> for nvidia, yes. Installing them shouldn't destroy anything though.
[04:26] <Lindows1> basically, I think it was a ton of problems
[04:26] <Lindows1> I upgraded from 8.04
[04:26] <Lindows1> it screwed up vtune, emerald started eating my cpu through xorg
[04:26] <Lindows1> 177.83 drivers screwed up more things
[04:27] <Lindows1> finally just did a clean install
[04:27] <Lindows1> then the kubuntu, the first package update, black screen
[04:27] <Lindows1> so back to messing with xorg.conf
[04:27] <Lindows1> they didn't test this with people who have SLI
[04:28] <groms> generally if you generate a default xorg.conf it usually just works out of the box.
[04:28] <groms> X --config
[04:28] <Lindows1> didn't for me, I had to specify busid
[04:29] <Lindows1> otherwise it cant find my graphics card, since I have two
[04:32] <groms> ah
[04:33] <buggnout> it won't activate driver
[04:35] <Lindows1> using kubuntu 8.1?
[04:35] <ptl> 8.1 doesn't exist
[04:35] <ptl> 8.10 is more like it :)
[04:35] <Lindows1> heh
[04:36] <Lindows1> does it give an error message when you try to activate the restricted driver?
[04:36] <draik> ptl: What's the diff?
[04:37] <buggnout> 8.10 installed thru win for friend and says the driver needs to be activated...try to activate and it doesn't do anything
[04:38] <buggnout> nvidia btw
[04:38] <buggnout> no error mssg
[04:39] <Lindows1> if it shows up "green" and says "activate" should be good, you have to reboot though after you activate it
[04:39] <Lindows1> otherwise, you'll have to look through your xorg.conf file
[04:39] <buggnout> it won't show up green
[04:39] <Lindows1> open a console and type in "less /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[04:39] <buggnout> i thought xorg.conf was diff in 4.1?
[04:40] <buggnout> what does 'less' do?
[04:40] <Lindows1> well, under section "device" for the video device, it should say Driver "nvidia"
[04:40] <Lindows1> lets you read the file
[04:40] <Lindows1> read only
[04:40] <buggnout> aah
[04:40] <buggnout> k
[04:40] <buggnout> brb
[04:42] <buggnout> ection "Device"
[04:42] <buggnout>         Identifier      "Configured Video Device"
[04:42] <buggnout> EndSection
[04:42] <buggnout> Section "Monitor"
[04:42] <buggnout>         Identifier      "Configured Monitor"
[04:42] <buggnout> EndSection
[04:42] <buggnout> Section "Screen"
[04:42] <buggnout>         Identifier      "Default Screen"
[04:42] <buggnout>         Monitor         "Configured Monitor"
[04:42] <buggnout>         Device          "Configured Video Device"
[04:42] <buggnout> EndSection
[04:42] <buggnout> (END)
[04:42] <buggnout> nada
[04:42] <buggnout> any ideas?
[04:43] <Lindows1> under: Identifier "Configured Video Device" add: Driver "nvidia"
[04:43] <Lindows1> sudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf I think is what kde uses
[04:43] <buggnout> yup brb
[04:43] <solid_liq> ping
[04:43] <solid_liq> !ping
[04:44] <solid_liq> :D
[04:50] <Lindows1> where the heck is cdrom0, I thought it was jsut /dev/cdrom0 ?
[04:53] <nick77>  say /media/cdrom ?
[04:53] <Lindows1> i found it, umount /dev/cdrom worked
[04:53] <Lindows1> auto mount is nice, except it doesn't use the unhide option
[04:54] <Lindows1> yes everyone, I am addicted to WoW
[04:54] <Lindows1> I swore I wouldn't buy the expansion, but I did...
[04:54] <Lindows1> and DK's are OP
[05:08] <woody86> anyone know why Kubuntu won't save most of my settings? I have to add my clock to the panel everytime I restart, and some other window settings are off
[05:13] <msierks> what program is used to automount cd/dvd and usb storage devices ??? is it ivman or what ?
[05:14] <groms> msierks: its probably udev. you'd need to write a rule to do it possibly, and have the device in your /etc/fstab
[05:15] <msierks> well when the device is in my fstab it is always mounted odly even though a disc is not in the drive
[05:15] <groms> you have auto as a paramater?>
[05:17] <msierks> yes
[05:18] <woody86> anyone know how I can automatcally log into KDE when my comp starts?
[05:21] <orlando> hola
[05:21] <orlando> me pueden ayudar con algo
[05:21] <orlando> soy nuevo en kubuntu
[05:21] <orlando> que por cierto me gusta mucho
[05:22] <orlando> pero no se como descargar con el ktorrent
[05:28] <CourtJesterG> ok if i wanted to rrremove all java i downloaded through the terminal how would i remove them the rm command only rremoves a file or directory i want to remove complete packages so any files put anywhere else are deleted aas well
[05:29] <CourtJesterG> i used the terminal to install all packages
[05:29] <CourtJesterG> !java
[05:30] <CourtJesterG> no doesn't say
[05:35] <CourtJesterG> everyone must be dead
[05:35] <CourtJesterG> i could always do another clean install didn't add much  been tripping with a gum eraserr in hand and b 100 complex inside me odd very odd
[05:36] <CourtJesterG> scrrew it
[05:45] <ubuntu_> ya
[05:45] <ubuntu_> please help me
[05:45] <ubuntu_> any one
[05:51] <ari_stress> hi hi, wazzup? :)
[05:51] <ubuntu_> ya
[05:52] <ubuntu_> can u help me
[05:52] <ubuntu_> ???
[05:53] <ari_stress> what's the problem
[05:53] <thomas_> argh
[05:53] <thomas_> does anyone know why knetworkmanager keeps disconnecting my EVDO?
[05:54] <ari_stress> ah
[05:54] <ari_stress> yes, same with me
[05:54] <ari_stress> i move to gnome temporarily now
[05:54] <thomas_> I used it perfect for like a week or more
[05:54] <thomas_> It was perfection
[05:55] <ubuntu_> i have connected internet nut i m not able to get the pages
[05:55] <ubuntu_> but*
[05:55] <ubuntu_> the connection is active
[05:56] <ubuntu_> i connected using gprs
[05:59] <nintendork32> what are the reqirements for kubuntu?
[05:59] <nintendork32> well how much ram
[06:00] <nintendork32> nvm
[06:00] <nintendork32> found it
[06:00] <nintendork32> i guess ill go with Xubuntu
[06:00] <thomas3> argh
[06:00] <thomas3> going back to gnome now.....
[06:03] <prometheus77> really?
[06:04] <binMonkey> hi.  i have qwest's 7Mbps package.  my wireless laptop will download at about 150 - 175 Kbps.  i'm not getting near the 7Mbps am i?  is that expected with a wireless connection?
[06:11] <sigma> how do i test a microphone in kubuntu?
[06:18] <ptl> sigma: open the volume control, set 'capture' on your microphone, then use a program that recods using alsa
[06:18] <woody86> anyone know why kubuntu won't save some of my settings when I restart it? Like apps in the panels, and some window settings?
[06:20] <carutsu> hi anyone, how do I install gnash for konqueror?
[06:20] <carutsu> !gnash
[06:21] <carutsu> !knash
[06:21] <sigma> ptl: my volume control shows capture under the cd icon and i can't tick or un-tick it. tried using alsamixer and it wont let me change the mic volume:(
[06:21] <ubuntu> can any one help me
[06:22] <ubuntu> my browser is not showing pages
[06:22] <ptl> sigma: add your user to the audio, pulse, pulse-rt and pulse-access groups
[06:22] <carutsu> hm, weird installing klash doesn't install gnash
[06:24] <sigma> ptl: only got the audio group, should i now logout and back in?
[06:29] <sigma> any idea why krecordmydesktop doesnt have any sound?:(
[06:30] <jabrroa> hey whats this channel's host? trying to log on on my psp :)
[06:30] <sigma> irc.ubuntu.com i think
[06:31] <jabrroa> thank you :)
[06:36] <carutsu> how to install klash anyone?
[06:38] <maxbaldwin> carutsy: sudo apt-get install klash?
[06:40] <JediatNight> are there any developrs for Kbubuntu here?
[06:45] <jabrroa> !help
[06:45] <jabrroa> hehe
[06:45] <jabrroa> !myself
[06:46] <jabrroa> hehe
[06:47] <jabrroa> !mexicans
[06:47] <jabrroa> haha
[06:47] <jabrroa> inm so bored :\
[06:53] <alonea> ok, used to I could right click an archive and do extract all. dont have it. I could also right click .deb files and install them. also gone. what packages do i need?
[07:09] <ratadel17_> hola
[07:29] <Lindows> how do you change the windows in kde so you can type out the path? like /whatever/whatever
[07:29] <Lindows> nvm
[08:03] <MHz128> The default INSTALL icon on the live kubuntu desktop keeps crashing! Anyone heard of any install problems?
[08:10] <Lindows> okay, if you haven't yet and you are using kubuntu 8.10, and nvidia, I HIGHLY recommend installing the 180.08 beta drivers
[08:11] <Lindows> fixed a ton of problems
[08:11] <SkitleLinux18> hey everyone
[08:11] <SkitleLinux18> i just got a qucik question
[08:11] <Lindows> shoot
[08:11] <Lindows> I doubt I know the answer =)
[08:12] <jabrroa> what is it?
[08:12] <SkitleLinux18> I have Kubuntu 8.04. i installed a sound card, and everything works great. I boosted the volume in Kmix. however, things still aren't as loud as i want them
[08:12] <SkitleLinux18> is there a way to boost the sound in linux beyond the limits of kmix?
[08:13] <Lindows> not that I know of
[08:14] <jabrroa> hmmmm
[08:14] <jabrroa> idk bro
[08:14] <SkitleLinux18> ok
[08:14] <SkitleLinux18> thanks anyways, guys!
[08:16] <jabrroa> sorry man'
[08:34] <concernedcitizen> anybody managed to get chinese input
[08:35] <jabrroa> ??
[08:41] <giuseppe> Hi, how can I set default media player in my ubuntu?
[08:42] <giuseppe_> Hi, how can I set default media player in my ubuntu?
[08:43] <giuseppe_> i.e I want to use VLC for video and audacious for audio
[08:43] <giuseppe_> by default
[08:43] <giuseppe_> anyone can help me?
[08:44] <jabrroa> use amarok
[08:44] <jabrroa> better :)
[08:44] <jabrroa> and no idk
[08:44] <jabrroa> miine does automatically
[08:44] <giuseppe_> I prefer audacious it's faster...
[08:44] <giuseppe_> so do you know how can I change default set up?
[08:45] <jabrroa> well i have a amd quad core with 16 gbbbb of ram and two ati HD 4870's so im all set for speed :)
[08:45] <jabrroa> nope mine was already set
[08:45] <giuseppe_> anyone?
[08:45] <Dragonath> what version of kde are you using?
[08:46] <giuseppe_> I have ubuntu 8.04
[08:46] <giuseppe_> with gnome desktop
[08:46] <Dragonath> well this is the kubuntu channel, I'm afraid that I really don't know how to change these settings in GNOME
[08:47] <jabrroa> haha could have mentioned that
[08:47] <giuseppe_> jabrroa: do you know in kde?
[08:47] <giuseppe_> jabrroa: probably is similar
[08:48] <Dragonath> some programs such as the firefox browser store their list of programs to open files with in their own configuration settings
[08:48] <Jabrroa_BBL> yea right click on audio file and hit open with
[08:48] <giuseppe_> ok thanks
[08:48] <Jabrroa_BBL> and it should stay that way cuz mine is right now :)
[08:52] <Dragonath> do you have kde4?
[08:57] <laureline> hi !
[08:57] <laureline> is there anybody ?
[08:58] <Aradiv> yes
[08:58] <Aradiv> ?
[08:59] <laureline> I need help
[08:59] <laureline> SO
[08:59] <Aradiv> k
[09:00] <laureline> I installed Kubuntu on my pc which has 2 HDD
[09:00] <Aradiv> k
[09:00] <laureline> on the second one, I have windows datas
[09:00] <laureline> and I want to keep them
[09:00] <laureline> but I don't know how can I install my second disk
[09:01] <laureline> can you help me ?
[09:01] <Dragonath> what version of ubuntu did you install?
[09:01] <laureline> I don't know, It must be on of the latest.. how can I know?
[09:04] <Dragonath> tbh I don't know :P
[09:04] <gdoron> Hi
[09:04] <gdoron> I think you can check your version if you go to system>about ubuntu
[09:05] <laureline> okay...
[09:05] <Dragonath> anyways, laureline, if you open konqueror or dolphin, on the left there should be a network tab
[09:05] <Dragonath> if you go there do you see your missing hard drive?
[09:05] <Aradiv> uname -r
[09:05] <milos_> or lsb_release -a
[09:05] <gdoron> Oh thanks Aradiv and milos_ i was confused with ubuntu
[09:06] <Aradiv> kubuntu is ubuntu with kde
[09:06] <Dragonath> lsb_release it is
[09:06] <gdoron> Yep
[09:08] <Dragonath> right, does anyone know a theme for kde4 that hasn't got the vista glassy look all over it?
[09:09] <Dragonath> and doesn't look like macos
[09:09] <milos_> laureline: what's the problem? you can't see second hdd from kubuntu?
[09:09] <gdoron> not really but I think you can turn it off in system settings
[09:10] <laureline> I cant go on it, because there's windows datas on it and I don't want to format it
[09:10] <laureline> And i'm a newbie with kubuntu ;)
[09:10] <Dragonath> ubuntu can read windows hard drives
[09:11] <Dragonath> it can even write on them without messing things up
[09:11] <Dragonath> and I am pretty sure that kubuntu will ask you before it formats anything
[09:11] <laureline> Yeah, but now, it doesn't
[09:12] <milos_> laureline: you don't need to format anything
[09:13] <laureline> Ok so what can I do ?
[09:13] <Dragonath> do you see the hard drive in konqueror/dolphin?
[09:15] <laureline> Actually, I found something in the advanced system menu, and I thought that my pc needed to be reboot. So it is rebooting, but I don't know why, it takes a really long time... so Im waitin...
[09:16] <Dragonath> btw how can I edit the login manager settings? there's no administrator mode button like there was in kde3
[09:16] <Dragonath> laureline, ubuntu usually just tells you that you have to reboot, it doesn't start the process itself, so you just have to start it yourself
[09:17] <Dragonath> or did you already do that?
[09:17] <milos_> Dragonath: when click on System Settings/ select advanced tab
[09:17] <Dragonath> I'm already there milos_
[09:17] <laureline> Yep, on my PC (Im talking to you with my laptop ;))
[09:18] <Dragonath> laureline: and it's not rebooting?
[09:18] <milos_> Dragonath: what do you want to change?
[09:18] <courtjesterg> i just did aa fresh reinstall ccaause i can anyway i keep noticeing everytime i do the installation there is a ? mark during install on the black screen it questions it self is it a kerrnel bug amd 76 or something like that with cdrom maybe this is why my cd rewrite doesn't read disks anymore
[09:19] <laureline> It rebooted, and there isn't my second HDD
[09:19] <courtjesterg> also wherre can i find out the differeent file formats and which one is best i know i don't have fat 16 or 32 i have the ext3 file system
[09:19] <Dragonath> milos_: the login manager background image, I know I need to be root to do that, but there doesn't seem to be a way to go root unless I start the system settings app with kdesu
[09:19] <courtjesterg> but there was other options xfs jfs and such and another one
[09:19] <laureline> So In the advanced system menu, I clicked on disks and system files
[09:20] <laureline> and there's only my first HDD
[09:20] <courtjesterg> !ext3
[09:20] <milos_> Dragonath: hm, it asks me to enter pass to go in login manager
[09:20] <laureline> is it normal ?
[09:20] <courtjesterg> !xfs
[09:20] <courtjesterg> !jxf
[09:20] <Dragonath> milos_: it just shows me the settings but they're all greyed out
[09:20] <courtjesterg> !jfx
[09:21] <courtjesterg> !journaling
[09:21] <courtjesterg> !filesystem
[09:22] <milos_> laureline: how much MB do you have on second hdd
[09:23] <Dragonath> courtjesterg: what is your problem exactly?
[09:23] <milos_> Dragonath: everything is ok at me. The do it with kdesu
[09:23] <laureline> MB ?
[09:23] <laureline> 140
[09:23] <Dragonath> milos_: what's the command for system settings?
[09:25] <milos_> Dragonath: systemsettings
[09:25] <Dragonath> ok
[09:26] <milos_> laureline: df -h
[09:26] <milos_> laureline: paste it in pastebin and put link here
[09:26] <courtjesterg> wanting to research the diffeereent filesystems when you chose manule instead of default during set up
[09:27] <courtjesterg> Also keep noticeing on the black screen during install it questions if something is a kerrnal bug
[09:27] <courtjesterg> amd760 someting rom
[09:27] <laureline> I cant, Im not on the right pc
[09:28] <laureline> Ok, Im gonna try something...
[09:28] <laureline> I'll come back in a few minutes
[09:28] <Dragonath> milos_: kdesu systemsettings results in a totally different system settings dialog :) I'm pretty sure I am configuring kde3 there
[09:28] <Dragonath> after installing kde4 my computer is a mess
[09:29] <milos_> laureline:  you must try this on pc. Ok
[09:29] <milos_> Dragonath: what ver. you are running?
[09:29] <Dragonath> 8.04
[09:30] <courtjesterg> the only thing wrong with kde4 is i can't get my cd/rewrite to read anymore once it showed up as a faulty drive in the beginning didn't even show the driv k3b doesn't see the drive but everything else dows
[09:30] <courtjesterg> ohh and still think the firefox build is actually off of sea monkey
[09:31] <milos_> yup, mixing 3 and kde4 can be problem
[09:32] <woody86> what's a good voip softphone to use in Kubuntu?
[09:32] <Dragonath> well is there a howto for migrating from kde3 to kde4?
[09:33] <milos_> Dragonath: you should upgrade to 8.10
[09:33] <Dragonath> probably
[09:33] <courtjesterg> i have 8.10
[09:34] <Dragonath> I can use kde3 apps in kde4 right?
[09:34] <milos_> yup
[09:34] <milos_> probably
[09:34] <milos_> didn't try
[09:35] <milos_> i'm new to kubuntu
[09:35] <Dragonath> hmm I like the fact that I have a LTS release
[09:36] <milos_> well if you want very stable sistem, forget kde4
[09:37] <Dragonath> it's not stable?
[09:37] <milos_> it is pretty stable but...
[09:37] <koperton> heya guys i have a problem with konqueror i want disable this message
[09:37] <koperton> konqueror You're about to transfer the following files from your local computer to the Internet.
[09:38] <courtjesterg> lol
[09:38] <koperton> well i can't upload to mediafire
[09:38] <koperton> with konqueror
[09:38] <courtjesterg> your haardrive  online all fun
[09:38] <milos_> 3.5 is rock solid stable.
[09:39] <Dragonath> oh well
[09:39] <koperton> courtjesterg: i use konqueror like web browser and so what's the problem
[09:39] <courtjesterg> lets make a virus with amor using the cat to infect windows ppl be like how i get the cat off my screen lol
[09:40] <courtjesterg> i can't seem to fugire out how to use konquoer as a web browser to display everything i use myspace for testing flash and java and the myspace app yoville which i can't get past the start menu even with firefox
[09:41] <Dragonath> you need to install the flash plugin
[09:41] <courtjesterg> i did
[09:41] <courtjesterg> non free
[09:41] <koperton> i use konquero because is prettu fast and light
[09:41] <koperton> pretty
[09:43] <courtjesterg> so yeah fusstrated in the fact i dunno why its not going past the yoville start screen konquerro just hangs at the load screen for that yoville app on myspace and face book check it out see if you can tthen tell me what plugins you using cause i tryed all java and the flash
[09:43] <koperton> mouhahha i have every silly plug in
[09:43] <koperton> :D
[09:44] <koperton> and konqui rocks
[09:45] <heinkel_111> how do I configure konversation to open http://something.somedomain url's in konqueror instead of firefox?
[09:45] <courtjesterg> wow look up this file system ReiserFS we can use it but thats not why its interesting lol
[09:45] <courtjesterg> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ReiserFS
[09:45] <koperton> heinkel_111: go in the settings man
[09:45] <heinkel_111> it is cpunterintuitive not to use konqueror as default in kubuntu!
[09:45] <heinkel_111> koperton: I have been there, can you show me where?
[09:45] <heinkel_111> it is not that easy!
[09:46] <koperton> heinkel_111: have you kde3.5 or 4
[09:46] <heinkel_111> 4
[09:46] <heinkel_111> but konversation runs 3.5.9
[09:46] <heinkel_111> sorry
[09:46] <koperton> heinkel_111: mm just a second
[09:46] <heinkel_111> 3.5.10
[09:46] <heinkel_111> I am on standard kubuntu 8.10
[09:47] <koperton> standard kubuntu has kde4
[09:47] <heinkel_111> koperton: but konversation doesnt ;)
[09:47] <heinkel_111> like a lot of other programs it is not updated to kde4
[09:47] <koperton> i think on kde4 there is not kcontrol right?
[09:48] <koperton> open a terminal and type
[09:48] <koperton> kcontrol
[09:48] <heinkel_111> so 8.10 has some way of running 3.5.10 in the background of kde4
[09:49] <heinkel_111> koperton: "which kcontrol" returns nothing, so yes, no kcontrol here i guess
[09:49] <koperton> ah
[09:49] <guren> systemsettings
[09:49] <courtjesterg> 2 days before the filesystem was introduced the autor killed his wife
[09:49] <dwidmann> heinkel_111: kde 3's kdelibs are installed so the few applications which haven't been ported  can still be run.
[09:50] <courtjesterg> author
[09:50] <courtjesterg> that file system is cursed
[09:50] <courtjesterg> it must of driven him nutes coding so when he was done whacked his wife
[09:51] <Dragonath> courtjesterg: this channel is for help and support, #kubuntu-offtopic is for talk that doesn't fit here
[09:51] <heinkel_111> dwidmann: I have noticed it is quite a few that i run regularily (amarok, konversation, digikam, ++)
[09:51] <dwidmann> heinkel_111: yeah, and all of those are in progress
[09:51] <heinkel_111> dwidmann: but how do I manipulate kde3 konversation to open new links with kde4 konqueror then
[09:51] <courtjesterg> i hear off topic all the time and this is on topic thankyou it interesting support on the different file systems you can install kubutu on
[09:52] <heinkel_111> dwidmann: I think that must be the little problem here
[09:52] <dwidmann> heinkel_111: amarok is at beta 3 ... there has been a beta or 2 for digikam ... not sure about konversation yet
[09:52] <koperton> heinkel_111: http://img520.imageshack.us/my.php?image=setwebrowserpf5.jpg
[09:52] <courtjesterg> how come amor doesn't display any tips even after setting them
[09:52] <heinkel_111> dwidmann, koperton: when I manipulate system settings here (in kde4) , the kde3 applications are nonresponsive, right?
[09:52] <courtjesterg> it shows up blank
[09:53] <dwidmann> heinkel_111: probably
[09:53] <koperton> heinkel_111: mm i dunno i have used only for some weeks kde4 and if in this silly releease ffmpeg wasn't fucked i would used
[09:53] <koperton> now i am still on kde3.5
[09:53] <heinkel_111> koperton: thank you, I already did that - configured it to open http url's with /usr/bin/konqueror
[09:53] <koperton> :)
[09:53] <dwidmann> koperton: what's wrong with ffmpeg?
[09:54] <koperton> bah they have changed codec's name
[09:54] <dwidmann> koperton: eh? which ones?
[09:54] <heinkel_111> koperton, dwidmann...thanks for helping, I give up for now!
[09:54] <koperton> and there is some problem even if you turn medibuntu on and installl ffmpeg and other packages
[09:54] <koperton> heinkel_111: try with konqueror
[09:55] <koperton> instead of /usr/bin/etct
[09:55] <koperton> dwidmann:  aac-----> libfaac
[09:55] <koperton> xvid ----->libxvid
[09:55] <dwidmann> heinkel_111: I know h.264 wasn't playing back in any of the multimedia apps in intrepid ... so I had to compile my own mplayer and vlc ....
[09:55] <koperton> h264------>libx264
[09:56] <koperton> bah dwidmanni have made nwc damn and every time i have some issue with ffmpeg
[09:56] <koperton> nwc it's my application http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/NWC?content=91817
[10:01] <nintendork32> hi i am running ubuntu 8.10 and would like to get kde 3, kde 4 crashes, on it
[10:02] <courtjesterg> aanybody know how i can get the full functions back into my logitech keyboard example hit the caps key it show on screen enable i don't have lights and my other keys on my boaard
[10:02] <dwidmann> nintendork32: you'll either have to look for a third party repository, downgrade to 8.04, or compile from source
[10:03] <nintendork32> nvm i found a thread :D
[10:03] <dwidmann> nintendork32: (I personally chose option 3)
[10:04] <nintendork32> where would that be?
[10:04] <nintendork32> kubuntu or kde's site?
[10:04] <dwidmann> ", or compile from source" ... and that would be from kde's site
[10:08] <nintendork32> dwidmann, what 3.5x version should i get
[10:08] <nintendork32> 3.5.10?
[10:09] <dwidmann> nintendork32: take your pick .. 3.5.10 will probably prove easiest to build
[10:10] <nintendork32> dwidmann, does QT come with ubuntu
[10:10] <dwidmann> nintendork32: yeah
[10:11] <nintendork32> ok
[10:11] <nintendork32> you use ubuntu or kubuntu?
[10:11] <dwidmann> nintendork32: it won't matter, but I use Kubuntu :)
[10:12] <nintendork32> is there debs any where? this is taking too long
[10:12] <dwidmann> nintendork32: hmm, never said it would be instant ...
[10:12] <nintendork32> i know
[10:12] <nintendork32> id rather go that way anyway
[10:13] <dwidmann> nintendork32: I said the opposite, I said it'd be "compile from source" :P
[10:13] <nintendork32> http://www.kde.org/download/#v3.5
[10:13] <nintendork32> uhm...
[10:13] <nintendork32> look at that
[10:14] <vlt_> Hello. I installed Kubuntu 8.10. Where has Settings->priners gone?
[10:14] <vlt_> *printers
[10:14] <dwidmann> "sudo apt-get install build-essential; sudo apt-get build-dep kdelibs4c2a" should grab a lot of the build dependencies
[10:15] <dwidmann> vit_: dunno, as an alternative you can go to 'http://localhost:631' in your browser
[10:16] <dwidmann> nintendork32: for a base kde install, the only packages you would need would be arts, kdelibs, and kdebase (built in that order)
[10:17] <nintendork32> i just want to find the deb somewhere
[10:18] <fabio> hi. Asking if it's the right place to signal plasma crashes due to ading twitter widget
[10:18] <fabio> ?
[10:19] <Coggz> anyone here used the install to usb stick feature to install another distro to usb?
[10:19] <dwidmann> fabio: appropriate place to do that would probably be bugs.kde.org
[10:19] <fabio> Thankyou dwidmann. Must I create an username and passwd?
[10:19] <fabio> for login to bug page?
[10:20] <dwidmann> fabio: that, or you might need to do it at kde-apps.org ... depending on if there's a related package on bugs.kde.org (not sure if there is)
[10:20] <nintendork32> argh
[10:20] <dwidmann> fabio: to log in to that, yes.
[10:20] <fabio> Ok... thankyou!!! GRazie.
[10:20] <nintendork32> anyone know where i can find debs for kde3?
[10:21] <Coggz> anyone here used the install to usb stick feature to install another distro to usb?
[10:32] <CourtJesterG> ok i wass upgraadesing my system it all froze on me twice when i did this i decided to go into the grub menu rrrecovery mode i have two different kernels .7 and .8 this isn't normal is it i haven't seen this beforre
[10:33] <CourtJesterG> upgrading
[10:34] <CourtJesterG> sscrew it
[10:37] <toby__> cany anyone help me, i am trying to use xpde but when i log in to a session using xpde none of the shortcuts buttons or anything else for that matter work
[10:41] <FicaBlok38> hello
[10:42] <FicaBlok38> how to change style in openoffice 3?
[10:42] <nintendork32> dwidmann, hehe, kde package comes with konstruct
[10:42] <FicaBlok38> what i need to get?>
[10:42] <FicaBlok38> i hate this crystal style
[10:56] <The> Is there a manual for Kubuntu, to help me get back to the internet while I try the LiveCD?
[11:07] <goshawk> hi
[11:08] <goshawk> i've just plugged in my usb multi-card reader and it does not get recognized by inprepid
[11:08] <goshawk> it worked like a sharm on hardy
[11:08] <koperton> goshawk: it's the kernel
[11:08] <goshawk> yes
[11:08] <koperton> have you old kernel?
[11:09] <koperton> use it
[11:09] <goshawk> koperton: i've up to date
[11:09] <goshawk> intrepid kernel
[11:09] <goshawk> wait
[11:09] <goshawk> Linux earth 2.6.27-7-generic #1 SMP Tue Nov 4 19:33:06 UTC 2008 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[11:44] <heinkel_111> linux earth ... is that something?
[11:53] <tzd> does anyone here know how to sync Kontact with an Xperia X1 please?
[11:55] <adam> Hi guys!
[11:56] <Guest62647> I have a problem.  Can I run Google Earth on Linux?
[11:56] <Adola> I meant, Kubuntu
[11:56] <bascule> Adola: yes, you can add !medibuntu sources
[11:56] <Adola> Can you please elaborate?
[11:57] <bascule> !medibuntu
[11:57] <Adola> Thank you very much!
[11:57] <bascule> you know the stuff you apt-get install of pull in from adept, there are lists that tel it where and what things are, you can add some, that is one,
[11:57] <bascule> there is one for wine as well
[11:57] <bascule> an many other things
[12:00] <michal__> ...
[12:04] <michal__> może mi ktoś pomóc w instalacji sterowników grafiki na kubuntu ?
[12:04] <bascule> !pl
[12:05] <michal__> dzieki :)
[12:09] <alberto> hola
[12:10] <Guest43994> hola hay alguien español
[12:11] <bascule> !es
[12:28] <ubuntu> Hola
[12:28] <ubuntu> Algeuin por aqui?
[12:30] <ubuntu> Hello?
[12:30] <ubuntu> Is there anyone here?
[12:30] <bascule> yes
[12:30] <goshawk> ubuntu: yes
[12:30] <ubuntu> Hi
[12:30] <ubuntu> im spanish, but in kubuntu-es there is nobody
[12:31] <ubuntu> can u help me to read and Write in NTFs partition by kubuntu?
[12:31] <goshawk> ubuntu: sudo aptitude install qtparted
[12:31] <goshawk> then run
[12:31] <goshawk> sudo qtparted
[12:31] <goshawk> and you will have a partition magic like environment
[12:32] <ubuntu> Excuse me, this is my first time in kubuntu, where must I write that?
[12:32] <goshawk> to format a new ntfs partition
[12:32] <goshawk> ubuntu: wait. do yo want to Access a existing partition
[12:32] <goshawk> windows partition
[12:32] <ubuntu> yeah
[12:32] <goshawk> or do you want to create one?
[12:32] <ubuntu> Acces a existing partition
[12:32] <goshawk> ok open dolphin
[12:33] <ubuntu> Dolphin?
[12:33] <goshawk> k menu --> dolphin
[12:33] <ubuntu> Yeah
[12:33] <ubuntu> and now?
[12:33] <goshawk> you should see an icon
[12:33] <mrksbrd> anyone else having problem while booting into 8.10? I have to hold down a key to continue boot process......any ideas?
[12:33] <goshawk> is int the left column
[12:33] <goshawk> there is an hard drive icon
[12:34] <goshawk> just click on it
[12:34] <goshawk> and you will access your partition
[12:34] <ubuntu> There isn hard drive icon
[12:34] <goshawk> mrksbrd: which key?
[12:34] <ubuntu> this is a live cd
[12:34] <mrksbrd> any key on keyboard works
[12:35] <goshawk> ubuntu: open a terminal and do: cat /etc/fstab
[12:35] <goshawk> and paste result
[12:35] <goshawk> mrksbrd: what is the message if you don't do anything?
[12:35] <danub> anyone in here have truecrypt installed?
[12:35] <ubuntu> buntu@ubuntu:~$ cat /etc/fstab
[12:35] <ubuntu> unionfs / unionfs rw 0 0
[12:35] <ubuntu> tmpfs /tmp tmpfs nosuid,nodev 0 0
[12:35] <mrksbrd> just stays there until you hold down any key ....no msg
[12:36] <goshawk> mrksbrd: when it happens? after grub?
[12:37] <goshawk> ubuntu: do: sudo df
[12:37] <goshawk> and paste result
[12:37] <goshawk> !pastebin
[12:37] <goshawk> !pastebin ubuntu
[12:37] <ubuntu> S.ficheros         Bloques de 1K   Usado    Dispon Uso% Montado en
[12:37] <mrksbrd> starts @ "kubuntu" progress meter thru secondary progress bar...when it gets to the 8.10 display its fine
[12:37] <ubuntu> tmpfs                   387844     33788    354056   9% /lib/modules/2.6.20-15-generic/volatile
[12:37] <ubuntu> tmpfs                   387844     33788    354056   9% /lib/modules/2.6.20-15-generic/volatile
[12:37] <ubuntu> varrun                  387844        96    387748   1% /var/run
[12:37] <ubuntu> varlock                 387844         0    387844   0% /var/lock
[12:37] <ubuntu> udev                    387844        84    387760   1% /dev
[12:37] <ubuntu> devshm                  387844         0    387844   0% /dev/shm
[12:37] <ubuntu> tmpfs                   387844       260    387584   1% /tmp
[12:37] <goshawk> ubuntu: i told you to use pastebin -__-
[12:38] <ubuntu> Oh, okey, sorry :(
[12:38] <RurouniJones> !pastebin
[12:39] <goshawk> ubuntu: is the hard drive with the ntfs partition connected?
[12:39] <ubuntu> of course
[12:39] <goshawk> mrksbrd: sorry
[12:40] <goshawk> mrksbrd: i don't know...
[12:40] <ubuntu> i think it isnt mounted
[12:40] <goshawk> mrksbrd:  but if you install again the kernel it will generate a new initramfs image, a grub entry and all. maybe you should try it
[12:40] <mrksbrd> goshawk: it starts with "install" thru live cd, alt cd & version upgrade thru adept
[12:40] <danub> has anyone in here managed to get truecrypt installed on ubuntu 8.10?
[12:40] <goshawk> ubuntu: give me the output of dmesg
[12:41] <bascule> in a pastebin ;)
[12:41] <goshawk> mrksbrd: wait.... are you in a livecd?
[12:41] <ubuntu> http://paste.ubuntu.com/75595/
[12:41] <goshawk> ubuntu very good :)
[12:41] <goshawk> this time
[12:41] <mrksbrd> no running off hdd now
[12:41] <ubuntu> thanks :D
[12:42] <mrksbrd> but problem stems from the initial install
[12:42] <goshawk> ehm...
[12:42] <goshawk> ubuntu it's of df i want it of dmesg
[12:42] <goshawk> :P
[12:42] <goshawk> hih
[12:43] <ubuntu> i didint understand, sorry XD
[12:43] <ubuntu> is becouse of iḿ spanish
[12:43] <ubuntu> so, i must write "df" in the console and give you the output?
[12:43] <goshawk> mrksbrd: i don't understand your last sentence then.. sorry i'm not a good english speaker
[12:43] <goshawk> ubuntu: no write dmesg in the console
[12:44] <goshawk> and give me the output
[12:44] <goshawk> using pastebin :)
[12:44] <Novalgina2Fast> hi guys someone now i can see my driver version?
[12:44] <ubuntu> omg
[12:44] <ubuntu> too much text, wait
[12:44] <ubuntu> :-P
[12:44] <Novalgina2Fast> know*
[12:45] <bascule> Novalgina2Fast: modinfo <some_module>
[12:45] <ubuntu> goshawk:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/75597/
[12:46] <mrksbrd> goshawk: when running install no matter what.... cd .....or any other process of running install I have to hold down "any" key to get it to progress thru it
[12:47] <mrksbrd> i wonder if it is a bug with laptops in general, because on desktop it runs thru as supposed to
[12:47] <mrksbrd> was wondering if there was anything to edit to correct problem
[12:48] <Lindows> this version of ubuntu gave me nothing but problems
[12:48] <Lindows> ended up having to do a fresh install and even then it was touch and go
[12:49] <goshawk> mrksbrd: install is when you are installing only so livecd or alternate cd
[12:49] <mrksbrd> Lindows: same here
[12:50] <goshawk> do you have the same behaviours
[12:50] <goshawk> after installing?
[12:50] <goshawk> i've installed it
[12:50] <goshawk> and it worked
[12:50] <goshawk> on my laptop and my production machines
[12:50] <goshawk> without troubles
[12:51] <goshawk> ubuntu: you havea 0gb hard drive right?
[12:51] <goshawk> is it the one with ntfs?
[12:52] <mrksbrd> goshawk: right.....just saying when I run thru install I have to hold down any key to get it to progress thru install as well, now that it is installed on hdd still has same prob on boot up
[12:54] <goshawk> mrksbrd: give me the output of /var/log/kern.log
[12:54] <goshawk> daemon.log
[12:55] <goshawk> ubuntu: are you here?
[12:56] <goshawk> ubuntu if your drive is 80gb maxtor with ntfs partition only do these steps:
[12:56] <goshawk> sudo mkdir /media/hd
[12:56] <goshawk> sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/hd
[12:56] <mrksbrd> goshawk: saying kdesu command not found
[12:56] <goshawk> cd /media/hd
[12:57] <goshawk> mrksbrd: what is the commad you did?
[12:57] <goshawk> ubuntu: and you will be able to see your hard drive content (hopefully)
[12:57] <ubuntu> okey
[12:57] <ubuntu> let me a second
[12:58] <ubuntu> bash: cd: /media/hd: Permiso denegado
[12:59] <ubuntu> Do u understand "Permiso denegado"?
[12:59] <ThomasD> hi, I just installed kubuntu and grub is giving me some problems, I have 5 ata disks and 1 ide, after the installation, when I reboot I get "Error 21:selected disk does not exist", so I unplug all HDDs except the one with linux
[12:59] <ThomasD> and then i did this
[12:59] <ThomasD> http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/Installing-GRUB-natively.html
[12:59] <mrksbrd> goshawk: kdesu kate /var/log/kern.log
[12:59] <ThomasD>  now ofcorse I want to use my other HDDs again, how do I make sure shit doesn't get fucked up again
[12:59] <ThomasD> I can boot now*
[13:01] <Lindows> thomasD, try sudo update-grub
[13:01] <Lindows> might help
[13:01] <ThomasD> Lindows: I just set grub up manually to get it working
[13:01] <ubuntu> goshawk:  Are you here?
[13:03] <mrksbrd> ThomasD: when you did initial install did you specify what was going to be boot partition thru advanced tab?
[13:04] <ThomasD> mrksbrd: don't remember doing so, but I got it booting now
[13:04] <ThomasD> mrksbrd: gonna try with other drives attached now
[13:04] <goshawk> ubuntu yes
[13:04] <padi> about wpa on 8.10: http://pastebin.com/m40a8cf2d any ideas what that is all about? it associates and then quits again, over and over again.
[13:05] <goshawk> ubuntu: yes
[13:05] <goshawk> put sudo
[13:05] <goshawk> beore
[13:05] <goshawk> and sorry
[13:05] <goshawk> but i've to go
[13:05] <goshawk> see you
[13:05] <ubuntu> sudo cd ..?
[13:05] <goshawk> yep
[13:05] <goshawk> put sudo before each comand
[13:05] <goshawk> command
[13:05] <goshawk> se you
[13:05] <goshawk> bye
[13:06] <Adola> Can someone please tell me how to update my old 1.4 AMAROK to the newest version?
[13:06] <mrksbrd> ThomasD: if you are showing more than 1 boot sector on any of the other drives, may be getting confused during boot on which one to load
[13:07] <mrksbrd> ubuntu: not to run thru everything again, but what are u trying to do?
[13:08] <mrksbrd> dr_willis: welcome
[13:08] <mrksbrd> u came in @ just the right time
[13:08]  * dr_willis runs away
[13:08] <mrksbrd> lol
[13:08] <Adola> Hello?
[13:09] <mrksbrd> have a prob that needs your expertise
[13:09] <dr_willis> Jello1!
[13:09] <Adola> Can someone please tell me how to update to the latest Amarok?  I'm running 1.4 now.
[13:09] <dr_willis> state the nature of the linux emergancy
[13:09] <ThomasD> mrksbrd: got it working, all drives attached
[13:09] <ThomasD> thanx anyway :)
[13:09] <dr_willis> There are some unofficial amarok repositories that might have the latest versions.
[13:09] <mrksbrd> cool
[13:10] <Adola> Where might I go about finding them@
[13:10] <dr_willis> I noticed them by using that 'unofficial' 'ubuntu-tweak' utility that i discoverd by googling around...
[13:10] <mrksbrd> when booting I have to hold down "any" key on keyboard to finish boot process.....any ideas
[13:12] <dr_willis> https://launchpad.net/~project-neon/+archive
[13:12] <dr_willis> ppa project web site for amarok.
[13:12] <Lindows> mrksbrd, boot in recovery mode, see which error you are probably skipping over
[13:13] <Adola> Thank you gusy!  Always helpful
[13:13] <dr_willis> use ppa repos at your  own risk. :)
[13:13] <mrksbrd> ok ....just another note.....this problem stems from initial install....meaning have to hold down any key to even get it to run thru that as well
[13:14] <dr_willis> mrksbrd,  try any othe linux disrtos befor on that machine?
[13:15] <mrksbrd> 8.04 is flawless
[13:15] <oem> hi
[13:15] <mrksbrd> 3 different installs by 3 different means and same issue
[13:15] <Lindows> you need to see why
[13:16] <Lindows> hopefully it spits out an error message and tells you why
[13:16] <mrksbrd> ok brb
[13:21] <lukas__> Ahoj, doinstaloval jsem si do poslední verze ubuntu kde4 a dád bych odstranil gnome, našel jsem někde na foru jakýsi postup: sudo aptitude remove gnome-desktop , ale tímto způsobem to nejde, shel mi napíše, že tenhle balík nenašel a nic se tedy dít nebude. Víte prosím někdo, jak na to?
[13:22] <dutch_> just installed Kubuntu 8.10 yesterday...how do I install Adobe flash ?
[13:24] <Lindows> if you install firefox, I think it comes with it....all I did was install firefox and youtube works, didn't have to do anything
[13:24] <Lindows> wait, nvm
[13:24] <Lindows> that was the live cd
[13:24] <Lindows> one...second
[13:26] <Lindows> dutch, 32 bit or 64 bit kubuntu?
[13:27] <dutch_> Lindows, 32 bit
[13:27] <Lindows> http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/ might work, get the .deb
[13:28] <dutch_> Lindows: thanks
[13:30] <Lindows> got a better answer
[13:30] <Lindows> flashplugin-nonfree in packages
[13:31] <Lindows> you can search for it in synaptic
[13:31] <dutch_> Lindows: what programs do I use to open the install ?
[13:31] <Lindows> go through synaptic, its the same one
[13:31] <dutch_> ok, thanks
[13:37] <ubuntu> Can someone please tell me how to install skype?
[13:38] <dr_willis> !skype
[13:38] <dr_willis> enable medibuntu repos.. install with package manager tool that you perfer...
[13:38] <dr_willis> !medibuntu
[13:39] <mrksbrd> Lindows: http://paste.ubuntu.com/75618/
[13:40] <Nasj> !mplayer
[13:41] <dr_willis> there also  the mplayer variants at medibuntu :)
[13:41] <Nasj> hmhm
[13:41] <dr_willis> which may have some extra features
[13:42] <Nasj> I need a media player with i can use a video_ts folder as source
[13:42] <dr_willis> vlc and mplayer can both do that  - i recall
[13:42] <dr_willis> I knwo vlc can do it.. im 89.99% sure ive also done it with mplayer
[13:43] <dr_willis> I can play .vob files in both
[13:43] <Nasj> hmm
[13:43] <Nasj> ok
[13:43] <Nasj> iĺl try vlc then
[13:43] <dutch> Lindows: thanks...got it working after a re-boot...
[13:43] <Nasj> i cant get it to work with mplayer
[13:44] <padi> hey all
[13:44] <padi> has anyone managed to get firefox as a plugin to konqueror to work?
[13:44] <padi> I find a lot of tuts but none works
[13:44] <dr_willis> Ive used both to play dvd.iso files also..
[13:49] <Adola> Can someone please help me regarding Amarok updating?
[13:49] <Adola> http://www.kubuntu.org/news/amarok-2-beta-3
[13:49] <Adola> I followed this link.  And added that repositoryroyroy thing, but it didn't work.
[13:51] <Adola> Hello?
[13:51] <Nasj> vlc did the trick
[13:51] <Nasj> thanks dr willis
[13:54] <bascule> Adola: did you apt-get update after adding the repo?
[13:55] <gilrim> Adola, how did it not work? do you find the package?
[13:57] <bascule> (does adept auto-update after changing sources/repos, I am sure it does)
[14:02] <bascule> yes
[14:09] <dutch> in 8.04, I cud right click on the desktop and line up the icons...what happened in 8.10 ?
[14:10] <rjune_> dutch: kde4 or gnome?
[14:10] <mpe> gnome
[14:10] <dutch> kde4
[14:10] <rjune_> kde4 doesn't have desktop icons like kde3 did
[14:10] <dutch> I see that...
[14:14] <Craftsman> народ, хочу поставить новые дрова на видеокарту, а кубунта пишет что нужны права суперюзера
[14:14] <Craftsman> что делать?
[14:16] <Craftsman> Help please...i wanna install new drivers for my ati radeon x1950 pro, but kubuntu says that i need superuser rights
[14:16] <Craftsman> what should i do?
[14:17] <rjune_> Craftsman: you trying to install via gui or cli?
[14:19] <Craftsman> oh...
[14:19] <Craftsman> what are they?)
[14:20] <Thor> craftsman: gui=graphical interface cli=command line interface
[14:20] <dr_willis> 'how' are you trying to install these things? package manager? downladed?
[14:20] <Craftsman> downloaded file
[14:20] <Craftsman> ati-driver-installer-8-11-x86.x86_64.run
[14:20] <Craftsman> from official website
[14:20] <dr_willis> You have tried the versions in the repos/hardware driver tools?
[14:21]  * dr_willis isent sure of what drivers work with what ati cards.. thers been 'issues' lately with  a lot of the new driver releases
[14:21] <Craftsman> ok
[14:21] <Craftsman> but
[14:22] <Craftsman> how could i use super user?
[14:23] <dr_willis> !sudo
[14:23] <dr_willis> with the proper use of 'sudo' or related commands
[14:23] <Craftsman> should i enter the passwd?
[14:24] <dr_willis> in your case you COULD   go to the console, Kill the X session with 'sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop'    then 'run' that installer with 'sudo chmod +x ati-whatever'   'sudo /path/to/ati-whatever.run'
[14:24] <dr_willis> Theres 3 ways of getting the 'drivers' working.. dependign on what your needs.. and if you NEED the latest drivers or not..
[14:24] <dr_willis> the .run progarm you downloaded would be the 'last' way i would try
[14:25] <Craftsman> and what is the first?
[14:25] <dr_willis> Using that hardware-drivers tool thats in the menus.. and proberly has an icon somewhere in your panels..
[14:25] <Craftsman> hm...you know...
[14:26] <dr_willis> or run it from a termianl with .. 'kdesudo jockey-kde
[14:26] <dr_willis> '
[14:26] <sourcemaker> I have installed the vmware2 server package... how can I use vmware without WebUI - so that I can see the desktop of my guest ?
[14:26] <dr_willis> I think its kdeusdo...
[14:26] <Craftsman> my kubuntu 8.10 often needs reset)
[14:26] <Craftsman> and i read that new drivers will help with it...
[14:27] <Craftsman> but i m not sure
[14:27] <Craftsman> why could it be&
[14:27] <Craftsman> ?
[14:27] <dr_willis> are you even using the ati-fglrx drivers.. is the first question...
[14:27] <gekkoo> where can i find the settings for the kmenu (application launcher)?
[14:27] <dr_willis>  run  'kdesudo jockey-kde' and see if it says its enabled
[14:28] <Craftsman> no it isnt enabled
[14:29] <dr_willis> Then enable it.. :) and hope it works..
[14:29] <Craftsman> the button dont do anything)
[14:30] <dr_willis> you did run it with the 'kdesudo jockey-kde'  method?
[14:30] <Craftsman> yes
[14:30] <Kovet> !grub
[14:31] <Craftsman> what method should i use?
[14:31] <Craftsman> чел, бля, ты не русский часом?)
[14:33] <danub> has anyone mounted a truecrypt volume from the commandline before?
[14:34] <danub> i am trying to mount a volume via the commandline, but all the examples i have come across dont seem to work for the linux flavor
[14:35] <maxbaldwin> Hello. I'm trying to play teeworlds/bzflag, and it's not displaying the graphics properly
[14:36] <maxbaldwin> this is after a fresh reinstall, and it has worked before, same dist, same everything
[14:36] <maxbaldwin> 'kdesudo jockey-kde' lets me enable and disable my ATI graphics driver, but still to no avail
[14:37] <maxbaldwin> what's wrong with it?
[14:38] <jewel> i have problem with my graphics card
[14:39] <jewel> it's a sis chipset
[14:39] <jewel> anyone to help me?
[14:40] <jewel> anyone to help me?
[14:41] <dr_willis> I know very little about SIS chipsets - other then to avoide them....
[14:41] <dr_willis> :)
[14:41] <dr_willis> and from the # of ati questions i see in a day.. i will avoid them in the future also..
[14:41] <chfwiggum> !de
[14:42] <jewel> i cant figure out how to get that card working
[14:42] <dr_willis> !sis
[14:42] <dr_willis> the forums may have some info on it jewel  -   ive not used a SIS  ever.. that i can rember'
[14:43] <jewel> should i look at ubuntuforums?
[14:44] <dr_willis> Why not. :)
[14:44] <dr_willis> It never hurts to look/read
[14:44] <jewel> well, moving there!
[14:44] <dr_willis> I hope they are up.. they were down yeserday
[14:46] <dr_willis> and asking in #ubuntu helps also. ;)
[14:46] <dr_willis> check forums while You wait
[14:49] <tomaz> people, what package I need to install to get rid of this error?  ERROR: cmake/modules/FindKDE4Internal.cmake not found
[14:49] <chfwiggum> hi all! apt-get ignores several repos while updating-what might be the prob? tia
[14:50] <dr_willis> !find FindKDE4Internal.cmake
[14:50] <dr_willis> tomaz,  :) isent the bot handy
[14:50] <chfwiggum> whatabot
[14:50] <chfwiggum> :)
 File FindKDE4Internal.cmake found in kdelibs5-dev
[14:51] <tomaz> the bot`s handy ;D
[14:51] <dr_willis> !botsnack
[14:53] <rjune_> LOL
[14:57] <BluesKaj> 'morning folks
[14:58] <ThomasD> whats the name of the restricted driver aplication?
[14:58] <dr_willis>   'kdesudo jockey-kde'
[14:58] <ThomasD> thanx
[14:58] <dr_willis> jockey-kde :)
[15:00] <tomaz> !find moc
[15:01] <tomaz> nah...
[15:01] <tomaz> !find libqt4-devel
[15:04] <BluesKaj> !libqt4-dev
[15:05] <BluesKaj> !info libqt4-dev
[15:33] <dutch__> gnome has rythmbox...what's the same for KDE4
[15:33] <milos_> amarok
[15:33] <dutch__> milos_: thanks
[15:39] <sourcemaker> are there known problems with kubuntu 8.10 and vbox using hostinterface?
[15:44] <ThomasD> I've just installed restricted  nvidia drivers, now I try to start a game (urban terror) the game startst cuz I hear the music, but my screen goes black with a message "input not supported"
[15:51] <batiste> Hello. Does somebody here have a Nvidia 8800 GS?
[15:52] <Smygis> Hey under what submenu in what subsecton of what application can i cange so that the taskbar dont show every applicatoin i might have open on every single desktop.
[15:52] <Smygis> rather than rightklick the panel, thats too easy
[15:53] <Smygis> Using KDE4
[15:54] <terranostra> can anybody tell me please how to set up my repository?
[15:55] <terranostra> please, can anybody help?
[15:57] <terranostra> hey, anybody here?
[15:58] <milos_> yeah
[15:59] <terranostra> can anybody help me to update my repository, PLEASE
[15:59] <milos_> terranostra: what's the problem?
[15:59] <terranostra> i cannot install anything
[15:59] <terranostra> using
[16:00] <terranostra> sudo apt-get install
[16:00] <milos_> you did: sudo apt-get update
[16:00] <terranostra> yes
[16:00] <terranostra> a lot of paths not found
[16:01] <milos_> wait sec
[16:01] <milos_> are you using kde4
[16:01] <terranostra> how do i find out?
[16:02] <bazhang> paste.ubuntu.com with your sources.list terranostra
[16:02] <milos_> lsb_release -a
[16:02] <bazhang> cat /etc/apt/sources.list and paste.ubuntu.com with it
[16:02] <bazhang> then give us the url
[16:02] <terranostra> ok
[16:03] <terranostra> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy main
[16:03] <terranostra> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy-security main restricted
[16:03] <terranostra> deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy-security main restricted
[16:03] <terranostra> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy restricted
[16:03] <terranostra> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy universe
[16:03] <terranostra> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy-security universe
[16:03] <bazhang> not here
[16:03] <terranostra> deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy-security universe
[16:03] <terranostra> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy multiverse
[16:03] <terranostra> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-updates main restricted
[16:03] <terranostra> deb http://ubuntusoftware.info/ edgy all
[16:03] <bazhang> !paste | terranostra
[16:07] <BluesKaj> terranostra, are you upgrading to Intrepid ? If so you'll need to install Hardy first, then Intrepid, if you're doing a net-install
[16:07] <Ryunix> is it possible for me to change the name of the primary user on kubuntu ??
[16:08] <Ryunix> anyone help me out?
[16:08] <BluesKaj> !user
[16:09] <abby87> hello there, could anyone help me know if there is any way to sync my to-do list,kalendar,contacts and stuff between a laptop and a PC ?.Coz i use both and I dont wanna miss on stuff like todo list or friends' birthdays when i'm simply on the desk or laptop.I have a wifi router at home and so both the computers can connect with each other
[16:12] <janux> dont if such programs had an option to sync, but a "technical" way I think you can do that is copying each ".program_folder" from your home folder from the PC to the laptop
[16:13] <janux> and so both will have the same info... you can set this as automatically with a cron schedule..
[16:14] <janux> you know what I mean?..   at least it can be a way..
[16:15] <janux> maybe the data of such programs are inside .kde/.... in your home folder..
[16:17] <franck> salut à tous
[16:19] <RurouniJones> !fr | franck
[16:21] <janorcutt> lo ppl
[16:24] <janorcutt> jimmy in the house
[16:30] <JackWinter> anyone running 8.10 in a vbox under 8.04 ?  having problem to get the mouseintegration working ?
[16:41] <stefano> ciao
[16:41] <stefano> !list
[16:45] <BooVeMan> hi, some can give me a lead how to do a search+replace to al the files in a folder? I have a folder full of log files which have la flaw which i have to search an replace - so I thought in a shell-script or a program to decompress, correct an compress them again. I heard it should be posible with sed but I can't make it work
[16:46] <ectospasm> BooVeMan: how much do you know about shell scripting?
[16:47] <ectospasm> BooVeMan: http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/index.html  <- Advanced Bash Scripting Guide
[16:47] <MachinTrucChose> hi...I have a video that, when I open it in Kaffeine, I get "error: codec package is already installed". mplayer can play it without any issues. How can I make Kaffeine play it properly?
[16:48] <MachinTrucChose> the video is not a DVD. It's a 50MB avi (don't know what codec)
[16:48] <ectospasm> MachinTrucChose: I remember seeing a bug about Kaffeine like that, but I don't remember what became of it.  Search ubuntu forums, you'll probably find several hits
[16:49] <MachinTrucChose> ok, thanks
[16:49] <BooVeMan> scripting should be fine its more sed which I can#t get to work man won't help that much
[16:49] <ectospasm> BooVeMan: I hate to say this, but get a good book on sed
[16:49] <ectospasm> I don't know much about sed
[16:49] <ectospasm> I usually just use Perl
[16:50] <ectospasm> mainly because I learned Perl first
[16:50] <BooVeMan> ectospasm: bad luck for mee - java guy
[16:50] <patch_> hey guys
[16:50] <ectospasm> BooVeMan: boo
[16:51] <BooVeMan> thought here should be a solution without dooint 1h Java programing...
[16:51] <patch_> im havin some problems with installing dekorator in kde 4.1 any1 have experience in this?
[16:52] <ectospasm> BooVeMan: http://www.grymoire.com/Unix/Sed.html  < Intro to Sed
[16:52] <ectospasm> the nice thing about most common UNIX utilities is that they're very well documented all over the web
[16:54] <patch_> anybody have experience with dekorator and can help me out in trying to install it?
[16:54] <ectospasm> not I
[16:56] <patch_> lol ok.. man this is proving to be a pain. when i extract the tar.bz2 or w/e it is.. then i type ./configure  it says the directory is not found
[16:56] <ectospasm> are you in the unpacked directory?
[16:56] <ectospasm> I mean, what's your pwd?
[16:57] <patch_> lemme try again and see.. i mean im changing to that directory..im trying to install dekorator so hold on lol
[16:57] <ectospasm> ./configure usually isn't a directory
[16:58] <ectospasm> patch_: did you read the README that comes with it?  Perhaps there is no configure step
[16:58] <ectospasm> That's common for a lot of programs
[16:58] <patch_> ectospasm: im not sure there was a read me but ill check
[16:59] <ectospasm> patch_: or another question, what directory does it say "is not found"?
[16:59] <patch_> ./configure
[16:59] <patch_> patch@Patch-Laptop:~$ cd dekorator-0.4
[16:59] <patch_> patch@Patch-Laptop:~/dekorator-0.4$ ./configure
[16:59] <patch_> bash: ./configure: No such file or director
[16:59] <ectospasm> Heh
[17:00] <ectospasm> ./configure doesn't exist,
[17:00] <ectospasm> No configure step perhaps?
[17:00] <patch_> lol yeah i guess..
[17:00] <ectospasm> does ls show configure
[17:00] <ectospasm> ?
[17:01] <patch_> no.. theres a readme.ORIGINAL which is for the original dekorator.. the README refers you to the original lol
[17:01] <patch_> theres an Install
[17:01] <ectospasm> so, read the INSTALL
[17:01] <ectospasm> You should have done that first
[17:01] <ectospasm> There probably isn't a configure step
[17:01] <patch_> im new to this..sry
[17:01] <ectospasm> Just a make
[17:01] <ectospasm> No biggie
[17:02] <ectospasm> even my company doesn't always use the "./configure && make && make install" paradigm
[17:02] <ectospasm> especially for the drivers we produce
[17:02] <patch_> who do u work for?
[17:02] <patch_> if i may ask
[17:03] <ectospasm> Digium, http://digium.com
[17:04] <patch_> interesting. it says in install directions to type ./configure lol then make then make install
[17:04] <gekkoo> where can i find the settings for the kmenu (application launcher)? i want to save my menu items
[17:04] <ectospasm> must have a broken tarball patch_
[17:05] <ectospasm> gekkoo: you can usually save that in the menu editor, there's a save icon there
[17:05] <patch_> i guess.. its a ported one.. so im not suprised.. im trying to find a way to install better looking themes in kde 4.1
[17:05] <patch_> thats all i want lol
[17:05] <ectospasm> patch_: good luck
[17:05] <milos_> patch_: is there autogen.sh maybe?
[17:05] <gekkoo> ectospasm: i'm looking for the file where all the items are saved
[17:06] <ectospasm> gekkoo: you mean in ~/.kde?
[17:06] <gekkoo> ectospasm: yea, and where especially are the menu items stored in?
[17:06] <ectospasm> gekkoo: they're probably saved in individual .desktop or .launcher files
[17:06] <gekkoo> ah
[17:06] <ectospasm> gekkoo: lemme look
[17:06] <patch_> milos_  no there isnt... i give up.. its prolly not a good port .. ill just wait it out.. and figure out another way to make kde 4.1 look good lol
[17:06] <ectospasm> they may be saved system wide
[17:07] <cuznt> !sound
[17:08] <kamikaze> !video
[17:09] <ectospasm> bah, I always hated ARTS
[17:09] <ectospasm> gekkoo: this is a hint, nothing more:  /usr/share/app-install/desktop/applications.menu
[17:10] <gekkoo> ectospasm: i see
[17:11] <gekkoo> found it in ~/.config/menus strange location :-\
[17:12] <ectospasm> gekkoo: why do you say it's strange?  Just because you didn't expect to look there?  .config is unnatural?
[17:13] <gekkoo> i'd expect ~/.kde/share/config rather, because all kde configs are stored there
[17:16] <ectospasm> I guess that is weird
[17:17] <snarkster> what happened to the network file wizard?
[17:17] <snarkster> has it been replaced with add to places?
[17:18] <ikazmi> hi all
[17:19] <ectospasm> ikazmi: are you running as root?
[17:19] <ikazmi> yup
[17:19] <ectospasm> not very smart
[17:19] <ectospasm> someone could compromise your IRC client, and they'd have control over your entire system
[17:20] <ectospasm> I wouldn't trust even Open Source code that much.
[17:20] <OxDeadC0de> Yay, last night my windows xp was rootkitted for the second time! Never happens with linux for me...
[17:20] <ikazmi> man
[17:20] <ikazmi> i hate doin that sudo bash over n over
[17:20] <ectospasm> ikazmi: so do sudo -i
[17:21] <ectospasm> not difficult
[17:21] <ectospasm> but that still doesn't explain why you're running your IRC client as root
[17:22] <ikazmi> i prefer to have control over my system and not do a sudo everytime ive to access /var/www
[17:22] <ectospasm> but that still doesn't explain why you're running your IRC client as root
[17:22] <OxDeadC0de> insecurity alert anyone?
[17:22] <ikazmi> and if im usin quanta, it becomes a pain
[17:22] <ikazmi> well im logged in as root, thats y
[17:23] <ectospasm> I'm not familiar with quanta
[17:23] <ectospasm> silly person
[17:23] <ikazmi> quanta is an open source web-development software
[17:23] <ectospasm> I'll admit, I have a root terminal open all the time, but I don't run most applications as root
[17:23] <snarkster> if you have a dhcp computer how do you add them to hosts?
[17:23] <ikazmi> something like macromedia dreamweaver
[17:24] <bascule> snarkster: some dhcp clients allow you to reserve a MAC for an IP
[17:24] <ectospasm> snarkster: depends on the DHCP server, read its documentation
[17:24] <snarkster> oh ok
[17:24] <snarkster> its a cheap 2wire router
[17:24] <snarkster> thanx
[17:24] <bascule> dhcp clients, I meant servers
[17:24] <ikazmi> ok so now can i ask u guys about the issue i have :)?
[17:25] <ectospasm> if it involves running as root, no :-P
[17:25] <bascule> running as root is just insane .. I mean laughably nuts :)
[17:26] <ikazmi> nah then im safe :)
[17:26] <ikazmi> well i upgraded my kernel from 2.6.27-7 to 2.6.27-8
[17:27] <ikazmi> i didnt do it manually or anything, it was in the list of upgrades in adept and all i did was accept it
[17:27] <ikazmi> for some reason, kernel 2.6.27-8 does not load wlan
[17:28] <bascule> boot -7 then, it should still be there
[17:28] <ikazmi> its not even listed in the network manager in the new connections
[17:28] <jonasbet> hi
[17:28] <ikazmi> it is there in the older kernel
[17:28] <jonasbet> how can i mount a dvd
[17:28] <jonasbet> ?
[17:28] <bascule> from an ISO image?
[17:28] <jonasbet> i think so
[17:29] <ikazmi> are u trying to mount it on a local hdd?
[17:29] <bascule> ikazmi: press esc at the grub prompt, select -7 and boot that
[17:29] <jonasbet> i thought it would mount on its own
[17:29] <jonasbet> but has an error
[17:29] <jonasbet> how can i force it to mount
[17:29] <bascule> an actual physical disc in a drive jonasbet ?
[17:29] <ikazmi> bascule: if i mount into my old kernel, i have wlan
[17:29] <jonasbet> yes
[17:29] <bascule> submit a bug ikazmi
[17:30] <jonasbet> a dvd disc
[17:30] <jonasbet> on my laptop
[17:30] <jonasbet> does not work
[17:30] <bascule> is it a movie or data?
[17:30] <ikazmi> bascule: but then i cant use vmplayer as the kernel headers and everything for the old kernel have been removed
[17:30] <jonasbet> data
[17:30] <jonasbet> 4 avi files
[17:30] <bascule> what is the error?
[17:30] <jonasbet> let me see
[17:30] <jonasbet> one second
[17:30] <bascule> ikazmi: you can force a version using apt)itude)
[17:31] <ikazmi> bascule: how can i do that?
[17:31] <jonasbet> udf volume
[17:31] <bascule> man aptitude ;)
[17:31] <jonasbet> imposible to mount
[17:31] <BooVeMan> ectospasm: Your my man - that howto finally shed me the light I needed
[17:31] <ectospasm> BooVeMan: kickass!
[17:31] <ectospasm> !coc | ectospasm
[17:32] <BooVeMan> ectospasm: doing it right now - 2 cores at 100%
[17:32] <adi_> hi all
[17:33] <adi_> what apps can I use in kde4 as katapult, gnomedo or launchy?
[17:33] <bascule> ikazmi: aptitude install foo=0.6.7 for example
[17:33] <adi_> who is best integrated with kde4?
[17:34] <bascule> klauncher :)
[17:34] <ikazmi> bascule: oh, i know how to install packages and stuff :)
[17:34] <bascule> well the = forces a version
[17:34] <adi_> klauncher is native kde4 app?
[17:34] <bascule> yes, alt+f2
[17:35] <ikazmi> bascule: i m not a newb, u know? even if i login as root, i know more than enough to know my way around in linux :)
[17:35] <BooVeMan> bascule: klauncher sucks compared to katapult - 1 reason more I stick to kde3
[17:35] <adi_> any themes for klauncher?
[17:36] <ectospasm> ikazmi: but running as root means you have implicit trust in all the programs you run as root.  I mean, running any program as root requires a certain degree of trust, but running everything is just stupid.
[17:36] <ikazmi> bascule: well the problem really is, i cant find the right packages for kernel 2.6.27-7 now
[17:36] <bascule> ikazmi: you asked me how to install a version, would I have been better to leave you at 'man aptitude'?
[17:37] <ikazmi> ectospasm: i prefer running a firewall and hiding behind a router :)
[17:38] <ikazmi> ectospasm: i know its not a perfect situation, but then again, not running as root is not the perfect solution either, its not perfectly safe for starters plus it ads unwanted complexity
[17:38] <ectospasm> ikazmi: right, but some attacks tunnel through a protocol you're using, and could be an exploit in clients you use.  A firewall doesn't protect against those sorts of attacks.
[17:40] <ikazmi> well if i had control over a users system, all i would need is a keylogger and a bash script which gets triggered with sudo bash
[17:41] <ikazmi> ectospasm: won't that work as well? now although, the user is not root. i can pretty much do whatever i want with their system, no?
[17:42] <ectospasm> ikazmi: do you follow security bulletins?  THere are buffer overflows and the like in OSS all the time!  Are you sure you're safe?
[17:42] <ectospasm> Of course, none of us are
[17:43] <ectospasm> But attacks can compromise a user account, and not compromise the whole system
[17:44] <ectospasm> even though keyloggers aren't that hard to write for linux, the attacker has to trick you into running one, which is harder to do...
[17:44] <ikazmi> ectospasm: suppose i have the password for sudo bash and control over the system
[17:44] <ikazmi> ectospasm: doesnt it mean exactly the same thing as logging in as root :o?
[17:46] <blackflag> !KVM
[17:52] <ikazmi> so which leaves me where i was
[17:52] <ikazmi> what do i do about the wlan just disappearing
[17:53] <ikazmi> when i do a dmesg, theres no mention of wlan, b43 bcm43 or anything of that sort
[17:53] <ikazmi> ive manually scanned through the out and tried to grep it
[17:53] <ikazmi> no luck at all
[17:54] <ikazmi> lspci lists my controller though
[17:54] <ikazmi> and the hardware works coz it still works in the old kernel
[17:57] <frando> Hey. I just updated from Kubuntu 8.04 to 8.10 and now X doesn't start with fglrx as driver. Removing the Driver line (and thus using VESA I guess) it works.
[17:58] <ikazmi> ok...so thanks a lot for trying i guess....
[17:58] <frando> I have linux-restricted-modules-2.6.27-8-generic and xorg-driver-fglrx installed
[17:59] <frando> It worked perfectly before the update to 8.10
[18:03] <dr_willis> Lots of People have had issues with 'upgrades' to 8.10
[18:06] <bascule> I guess -8 is in backports, I have avoided backports this time round
[18:08] <joe-mother> yo
[18:09] <joe-mother> how can i prevent dhcp from overwriting the dns servers
[18:13] <joe-mother> yo
[18:15] <joe-mother> yo?
[18:17] <dr_willis> hmm
[18:17] <dr_willis> dhcp server  .. or client... ?
[18:18] <joe-mother> client
[18:18] <dr_willis> so you mean to say the dhcp server is giving out the wrong dns servers?
[18:18] <joe-mother> not wrong, but not the ones i want to use
[18:19] <dr_willis> i would say check the dhcp client man pages.. there may be some option.. but with the way the networkl manager  works in ubuntu/kubuntu there may be otehr ways as well
[18:20] <bascule> I only know of a work around and that is to chattr /etc/resolv.conf so it is immutable and set the nameserver entries in there
[18:20] <bascule> chattr +i I think (only for ext3 filesystems)
[18:20] <bascule> mDNS/avahi might have options too
[18:20] <bascule> mDNS should of course
[18:21] <joe-mother> chattr makes it read only?
[18:23] <dr_willis> man chattr and see :) I guess..
[18:23] <dr_willis> been ages sinve ive used chattr.. its one of those commands you just dont hear a lot about
[18:25] <bascule> yeah, chattr +i sets it immutable
[18:25] <bascule> sorry I am in a few chans :)
[18:29] <joe-mother> ok thanks, im trying to find the otions for the interfaces file
[18:30] <laptop> hello
[18:30] <bascule> hi
[18:31] <SunnyB> how are you??
[18:32] <markus2> hi
[18:32] <SunnyB> hi
[18:32] <joe-mother> hi
[18:32] <bascule> I'm pretty good thanks
[18:33] <markus2> can you speek german?
[18:34] <SunnyB> me?? no
[18:34] <SunnyB> italien and polish
[18:34] <markus2> oh
[18:36] <MCMetal> kubuntu is a very good operating sytem, isn't it?
[18:37] <SunnyB> I dont know yet ;D
[18:37] <bascule> I think so, a lot of people in here will
[18:37] <SunnyB> it's the firs time i'm here
[18:37] <MCMetal> oh i'm too
[18:37] <bascule> OK, are you downloading it now or ..?
[18:37] <SunnyB> yes
[18:42] <MCMetal> wow here lots of people!
[18:43] <MCMetal> äh here are lots of people
[18:45] <SunnyB> yeah
[18:46] <SunnyB> is there someon from poland??
[18:46] <SunnyB> or italy
[18:46] <un_> why was pearsoncomputing.net taken down? are the 'kubuntu' logo's and name trademarked firefox style?
[18:47] <dr_willis> never heard of them... or where they the guys selling the 'not quite legal apple clones' ?
[18:47] <dr_willis> or was that PearComputing.
[18:47] <un_> dr_willis: pearsoncomputing had the repository for 3.5.10 under ibex, but kubuntu shut them down...
[18:48] <heinkel_111> Hi, I am reconfiguring hard-disk partitions after installing a new one earlier today. Does anyone know what the meaning of the flag "lba" on an extended partition is?
[18:48] <claydoh> un_: not quite true
[18:48] <un_> anyone know of any new repo with 3.5.10 for ibex?
[18:48] <un_> claydoh: oh... the site pearsoncomputing says kubuntu told them to shut down...
[18:49] <claydoh> un_: he shut it down after the devs discovered that they would prevent upgrades in the future
[18:49] <heinkel_111> un_: I got 3.5.10 with regular repos
[18:49] <claydoh> he is goiung to work with the devs iirc to make it work correctly
[18:49] <un_> claydoh: ahh... i see... so is 3.5.10 just not a good idea in ibex, or do i need to compile?
[18:49] <dr_willis> sounds like a win-win
[18:49] <un_> heinkel_111: ? in ibex?
[18:50] <heinkel_111> un_: yep this is irc chat text with konversation
[18:50] <claydoh> un_: those packages were a bad idea in the way they were done, but yes, you will have to compile right now
[18:50] <heinkel_111> and konversation runs 3.5.10
[18:50] <MCMetal> yeah
[18:50] <heinkel_111> it is there somewhere in the background
[18:51] <heinkel_111> hidden behind kde4, but still on my computer, it looks like
[18:51] <JontheEchidna> just the base libraries
[18:51] <claydoh> there are the basic libs to run kde3 apps such as amarok/konvi, but there is no kde3 in intrepid
[18:51] <un_> heinkel_111: thank you... forums.kde.org pointed to pearsoncomputing as the sole ibex repo for it...
[18:51] <bascule> heinkel_111 lba is Logical Block Addressing, it is support for larger drives (defacto these days)
[18:52] <heinkel_111> bascule: thank you :)
[18:53] <bascule> by larger it means 2^32 bytes, aka 4.3GB
[18:54] <SunnyB> ok i'm going  see you ciao
[18:55] <MCMetal> ciao
[18:57] <Zaqq>  hi. i want to install KDE 3 on my Ubuntu Intrepid. Is it possible?
[18:57] <bascule> no
[18:57] <bascule> well yes, but you are looking at a lot of pain
[18:57] <bascule> !kde3
[18:58] <Zaqq> if I downgrade the kernel?
[18:58] <bascule> no, it is not kernel dependent it is release dependent
[18:58] <heinkel_111> methinks this starts to sound like vista vs XP in here these days
[18:58] <dr_willis> Thats about what it ammounts to..
[18:58] <dr_willis> Out with the old - in with the new
[18:58] <bascule> I like KDE4 some people think it is still missing things, I think that too, when I think of what it is missing I can't come up with anything
[18:59] <Zaqq> kde 4 works really slowly compared to kde 3 or any other OS for that matter
[18:59] <claydoh> ui tweaks mostly atm
[18:59] <heinkel_111> I don't find KDE4 terribly slow on my high end computer...but I do have real performance problems with vista on it
[18:59] <bascule> it is heavy in ram usage, but lighter than vista, I am not finding it slow
[19:00] <claydoh> though i think nvidia drivers make it slow for many iirc
[19:00] <un_> kde4 is going to own all other desktops/environments, etc... leopard and aero won't have had a chance... it's just not ready for release... lol
[19:00] <Zaqq> i am running this on a core 2 duo with geforce 8600 gt gfx and 4 GB ram ... vista flies on this ting .. so does mac osx
[19:01] <un_> i still don't think it should have been in 8.10, instead maybe a super cool 'kdemod' of 3.5 with extra kubuntu-ness would have been better than a kde4 prerelease...
[19:01] <dr_willis> Kde4 is still being optmized. :( and worked on...
[19:01] <heinkel_111> my synthesizers and audio software are not really useable with vista (they worked ok on XP), however the linux alternatives works well and for the first time in my life i actually find my hardware is better supported by linux than M$ :)
[19:01] <bascule> I still have hardy on my desktop I am running intrepid on a t5500 and an intel 945gm 1GB of ram, it is OK, swaps out a lot though (it needs more than 1GB with integrated video)
[19:01] <dr_willis> but its a catch-22.. no one works onit.. if no one is using it.. and no one uses it if....
[19:01] <heinkel_111> running LMMS on kubuntu 64 = :)
[19:02] <un_> LMMS, i remember the initial release of that app... : )
[19:02] <Zaqq> does 64 bit make any difference in speed?
[19:02] <bascule> nah, actually takes more ram as far as I can tell
[19:02] <heinkel_111> Zaqq: yes, but it is a 2 years since the last time I tried 32 bit :P
[19:03] <Zaqq>  .. let me mention that it takes about 40-60 seconds to startup .. is that normal?
[19:03] <heinkel_111> boot? yes - this depending on your disk setup etc etc
[19:04] <Zaqq> no from gdm/ kdm
[19:04] <claydoh> it only takes 45-60 for my old p4-m 2.0ghz lappy to fully boot
[19:04] <Zaqq> just kde
[19:05] <heinkel_111> question: can I put the SWAP partition as part of an extended partition package or does it need to be a primary partition?
[19:05] <Zaqq> 4.. kde 3 was way faster .. i just think i made a mistake upgrading to intrepid .. i know that it was there in the readme about kde4 pushed down your throat .. but i thought it might be more  READY than this!
[19:07] <Zaqq> bascule: do u get acceptable performance without compiz? maybe kde4 has issues when u have compiz-fusion as your WM ?
[19:07] <bascule> heinkel_111: swap can be extended
[19:07] <bascule> I do not use compiz on kde4 :)
[19:07] <bascule> I like it's built in stuff
[19:07] <Zaqq> i do .. could it be the reason for the laggy performance?
[19:07] <heinkel_111> bascule: thank you, then it must be another reason for swap not working
[19:08] <bascule> heinkel_111: sudo swapon /dev/sd??
[19:09] <heinkel_111> bascule: returns device or resource busy
[19:09] <bascule> free -m (does it show vm?)
[19:10] <heinkel_111> bascule; I always get a red fail in the startup log for starting swap
[19:10] <bascule> hmm
[19:10] <bascule> could you !paste /etc/fstab
[19:10] <heinkel_111> but free -m shows I have swap
[19:10] <heinkel_111> ??
[19:10] <bascule> odd
[19:10] <bascule> !paste
[19:11] <bascule> /etc/fstab is the file where your partitions and there properties are kept
[19:11] <bascule> or should I say the config for those
[19:11] <Zaqq> tx guys.. tc
[19:12] <bascule> o/
[19:13] <heinkel_111> bascule: check msg
[19:15] <bascule> yeah I got it
[19:15] <bobbie> what do I need to do to get Compiz Fusion with 8.10 kde 4.1.2
[19:18] <Snailspeed> Hello everybody. I'm trying to switch from pclinuxos to kubunto (for several reasons) but after having downloaded the new 8.10 64bit I'm unable to start kubunto. After loading it gives me a wicked screen (I'm using a nvidia geforce 7950gt :o( )
[19:23] <dr_willis> I had to get the nvidia drivers installed and set up after the install was done..
[19:23] <dr_willis> the live cd gave a wrong resolution
[19:23] <Snailspeed> So I should install it and try to start it in console mode?
[19:25] <dr_willis> It worked here..just at a wrong/low res - that i had to install the nvidia drivers to get the res proper.
[19:26] <dr_willis> x was  wanting to default to the  vesa driver and not the 'nv' one - on the live/installer cd...
[19:28] <Snailspeed> Well I could try to install on hd and then login in console mode (I guess it's possible in kubuntu). Then I could do something like sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx !?
[19:29] <Snailspeed> On the other hand my screen is totally messed up
[19:31] <dr_willis> not just wrong res eh? total garbage?
[19:31] <Snailspeed> yup, total garbage
[19:31] <DaSkreech> X server?
[19:31] <dr_willis> could try the alternative isntaller cd.. if the live cd is total garbage also.. and then tryinstall ing the nvidia drivers fromconsole.
[19:31] <DaSkreech> or the terminals are messed up too?
[19:31] <Snailspeed> seems like it
[19:32] <Snailspeed> Well, from the livecd, after loading, the screen just turns into garbage
[19:32] <Snailspeed> which alternative installer cd is that?
[19:33] <Kovert> I have mucked up my grub and need help
[19:33] <Kovert> I have two disks sda with windows
[19:33] <Kovert> and sdb with kubuntu
[19:33] <Kovert> cant boot at all
[19:33] <DaSkreech> Kovert: Do you have a live CD?
[19:34] <Kovert> DaSkreech: yes i am on that now
[19:34] <DaSkreech> !grub
[19:34] <Kovert> DaSkreech: thats how I got in triuble
[19:35] <DaSkreech> :-)
[19:35] <Kovert> following that
[19:35] <DaSkreech> What happens now on boot?
[19:35] <Kovert> fdisk -l says cant open either dev
[19:35] <Kovert> no operating system found
[19:35] <Kovert> I am on live cd
[19:36] <DaSkreech> you have a /dev ?
[19:36] <Kovert> DaSkreech: I am on live cd
[19:37] <Kovert> so dev would be on dsb
[19:37] <Kovert> sdb
[19:37] <DaSkreech> THat's not answering the question
[19:37] <dr_willis> sudo fdisk -l
[19:37] <dr_willis> not  just 'fdisk -l' :)
[19:37] <Kovert> ok I see them all
[19:38] <Kovert> DaSkreech: dev on what device?
[19:38] <Kovert> thanks dr_willis
[19:38] <l_r> Questio for experts: do you know whether Ubuntu, once installed on hardisk, preserves the automatic hardware configuration? that is, does the livecd behaviour remain unchanged after it's installed on hd?
[19:38] <DaSkreech> Kovert: Do you have a /dev directory ?
[19:38] <DaSkreech> You said that you don't have one
[19:38] <Kovert> sudo mc
[19:38] <Kovert> woops
[19:38] <dr_willis> l_r,   from what ive seen it does for the most part.. sound cards may not work do so.. X auto-configures a great deal.
[19:39] <DaSkreech> l_r: It goes back to the settings on first boot
[19:39] <DaSkreech> If I understand your question
[19:39] <dr_willis> l_r,  ive not tried to  memove a ubuntu isntall lately to a different machine lately however. :)
[19:39] <Kovert> DaSkreech: I have a dev on sdb
[19:40] <l_r> dr_willis, that is what i'd like to have: a LiveHD instead a livecd
[19:40] <dr_willis> Tried that USB-disk feature/tool in 8.10 yet?
[19:40] <Kovert> DaSkreech: I also have a /dec on the live cd
[19:40] <dr_willis> i got a bootable thumbdrive with persistant  saves/home/settings
[19:40] <Kovert> sorry dev
[19:41] <DaSkreech> l_r: initramfs would probably be what you need to look into
[19:42] <DaSkreech> Kovert: Alright when you boot can the the MBR find Grub?
[19:42] <Kovert> I do not belive so becase I get a no operqating system found message
[19:43] <DaSkreech> Kovert: Ok so it is finding grub then
[19:43] <DaSkreech> It's not finding the OS
[19:43] <Kovert> DaSkreech: ok thought that was a Windows message
[19:43] <DaSkreech> can you pastebin the contents of menu.lst from sdb ?
[19:44] <Kovert> DaSkreech: what dir is that in
[19:44] <DaSkreech> boot/grub
[19:44] <l_r> dr_willis, i have not tried yet. are changes ported to the hardisk from the liveusbl?
[19:45] <l_r> (after installing the liveusb)
[19:46] <Kovert> DaSkreech: http://pastebin.com/m1df4b282
[19:47] <DaSkreech> Kovert: ok and from sdb pastebin etc/fstab
[19:47] <dr_willis> l_r,  it saves the changes to the usb. :)
[19:47] <dr_willis> l_r,  it has a few issues.. but works well
[19:48] <l_r> dr_willis, so those changes will not appear on the hardisk too when you choose to installed the modified system from usb to disk, right?
[19:48] <dr_willis> l_r,  Not that i have seen... I could be wrong..  that would be a neat test...
[19:48] <douglas> exit
[19:49] <Kovert> DaSkreech: http://pastebin.com/m2c9e7bb8
[19:49] <dr_willis> that would be very COOL if they did.. but I do not think they do
[19:49] <DaSkreech> dr_willis: Where can I get a listing of UUIDs?
[19:49] <dr_willis> !uuid
[19:49] <l_r> very, yes
[19:49] <dr_willis> or ls -l /dev/disks/by-uuid
[19:49] <dr_willis> :)
[19:49] <DaSkreech> ah sweet
[19:50] <dr_willis> l_r,  i noticed when i isntalled the nvidia drivers the luve-usb did not proplery setup the xorg.conf.. I had to 'hack' the thing a bit.. and make a fix in the rc.local file to make the correct xorg.conf
[19:50] <l_r> dr_willis, what are those "few issues" you were talking about?
[19:50] <DaSkreech> Kovert: sda = windows sdb = linux ?
[19:50] <l_r> i see
[19:50] <dr_willis> then theres no swap partition.. unless you got one on the hd.    and of course limits to the size of my thumbdrive
[19:50] <Kovert> DaSkreech: yes
[19:54] <DaSkreech> Kovert: can you pastebin the poutput of sudo blkid ?
[19:55] <Kovert> DaSkreech: not sure will try
[19:56] <Kovert> DaSkreech: http://pastebin.com/m4b9cb840
[19:58] <sd32> !mms
[19:59] <dr_willis> Mmmmmmm.. cooookies...
[19:59] <dr_willis> :P
[19:59] <DaSkreech> !cookie
[19:59] <Kovert> M&M's?
[19:59] <Kovert> plain peanut?
[19:59] <dr_willis> Skittles!
[19:59] <dr_willis> :P
[19:59] <sd32> comedians here today
[19:59] <Kovert> almond?
[19:59]  * DaSkreech wants kisses now
[19:59] <dr_willis> They still make ALmond M&M's ? aint seen those in ages...
[20:00]  * Kovert kisses DaSkreech
[20:00] <dr_willis> !ohmy | DaSkreech
[20:00] <dr_willis> :P
[20:00] <DaSkreech> :-p You are against kisses?
[20:00] <sd32> !multimedia
[20:00] <dr_willis> XXX OOO XXX :)
[20:00] <DaSkreech> Ha ha
[20:00] <DaSkreech> Kovert: Should work :(
[20:00] <Kovert> I like dthe amonds the best
[20:01] <dr_willis> Ive not seen the Almond M&M in ages...
[20:01] <Kovert> DaSkreech: I think the grub isnt on SDA1 where it shoudl be
[20:01] <Kovert> dr_willis: me either
[20:01] <festher> im  about to install virtual box on kubuntu 8.10 64bit - should i take OSE or GTK or both?
[20:01] <DaSkreech> Kovert: Grub should be on sdb1 the MBR should be on sda
[20:01] <dr_willis> festher,  one is just a front end to the ose pacakge.. i think
[20:01] <DaSkreech> dr_willis: So you are for hugs?
[20:02]  * dr_willis just got burped on by a 3 week old baby
[20:02] <festher> yes gtk is frontend but i dont even know what THAT is :(
[20:02] <Kovert> DaSkreech:  how can we check or fix the MBR on Sda1?
[20:02] <DaSkreech> !mbr
[20:02] <Kovert> damm samew evil thing
[20:02] <dr_willis> Hmmmm the MBR is on sda,  sda1 and sda2 could have their own loader in their boot records i think
[20:02] <dr_willis> I normally put grub on sda, not sda1
[20:03] <DaSkreech> There is a section that says after installing windows. If you follow that it shoudl work
[20:03] <Kovert> I saw that and thats why I am here
[20:03] <DaSkreech> dr_willis: Grub or the MBR ?
[20:03] <DaSkreech> Kovert: Well you don't have an entry for windows first of all
[20:03] <dr_willis> i normally install 'grub'  s to the MBR of the hard drive..
[20:04] <sd32> lol i click on the multimedia link and opera opens in a paltalk page
[20:05] <epimeth> well I finally got a new hard drive and installed ibex...
[20:05] <epimeth> my screen flashes every few seconds and I can't connect to my wireless
[20:05] <Kovert> DaSkreech: so what do I do
[20:05] <epimeth> I had neither problem in hardy kde4 :-(
[20:05] <Kovert> dr_willis: the MBR
[20:06] <DaSkreech> epimeth: Turn off compositing I would guess
[20:06] <epimeth> how do I get both working again? :-(
[20:06] <dr_willis> From the Grub manual....        grub> setup (hd0)
[20:06] <dr_willis> This command will install the GRUB boot loader on the Master Boot Record (MBR) of the first drive. If you want to put GRUB into the boot sector of a partition instead of putting it in the MBR, specify the partition into which you want to install GRUB:
[20:06] <epimeth> DaSkreech: well I had composting on in hardy... I'll try that tho.  Should have thought of that myself :-)
[20:06] <dr_willis>      grub> setup (hd0,0)
[20:06] <dr_willis> If you install GRUB into a partition or a drive other than the first one, you must chain-load GRUB from another boot loader. Refer to the manual for the boot loader to know how to chain-load GRUB.
[20:06] <sd32> guess  its time to get rid of opera
[20:07] <dr_willis> Now.. what was the grub problem? I got sidetracked.. :P
[20:07] <Kovert> I did Brib serti (HD1,0) before
[20:07] <DaSkreech> He gets an error no OS found
[20:07] <DaSkreech>  Assuming that Kovert is a he
[20:07] <Kovert> wow sorry
[20:07] <epimeth> DaSkreech: how do I turn off composting?
[20:07] <epimeth> lol
[20:07] <dr_willis> Did he put grub in the MBR, or the 'boot sector' :)      thats how installing grub to sda, vs sda1 differ...
[20:07] <DaSkreech> epimeth: turn off desktop effects is the fast easy way
[20:08] <Kovert> I did a setup (hd1,0) before follong directions
[20:08] <epimeth> DaSkreech: yea, were are those settings?  KDE4 is going to take getting used to....
[20:08] <dr_willis> Kovert,  you most likely wanted setup (hd1)   that would put grub on the MBR of hd #2
[20:08] <sd32> man adept sucks
[20:09] <Kovert> ok lets try that
[20:09] <adi_> hi all
[20:09] <dr_willis> Im not even sure how you boot the  grub if its on (hd1,0)
[20:09] <epimeth> sd32: bite your tongue!
[20:09] <sd32> epimeth: oops
[20:09] <DaSkreech> epimeth: alt+F3 on any window -> properties
[20:09] <adi_> what codecs should I install to see almost any movie with dragon movie player in kde4?
[20:10] <dr_willis> adi_,  w32codecs pack. and the kubuntu-restricted-extras are ones i always install.
[20:10] <DaSkreech> adi_: kubuntu-restricted-extras
[20:10] <dr_willis> !w32codecs
[20:10] <epimeth> DaSkreech: nope, still flickers
[20:10] <Kovert> grub> root (hd0,1)
[20:10] <Kovert> Error 22: No such partition
[20:10] <Kovert> ??
[20:10] <sd32> epimeth:  i cant find anything with it
[20:10] <adi_> as player should i stay with dragon media player?
[20:10] <epimeth> sd32:  what are you looking for?
[20:10] <DaSkreech> Kovert: That's the windows partition
[20:10] <dr_willis> adi_,  I perfer mplayer, or vlc
[20:11] <Kovert> DaSkreech: isnt that where we want it?
[20:11] <adi_> ok thanks :)
[20:11] <DaSkreech> adi_: Umm If you like it I guess
[20:11] <ralpho> should not it be (hd0,0)?
[20:11] <sd32> epimeth: is it supposed to work like synaptic?
[20:11] <epimeth> DaSkreech: how about the wireless?  can you help with that?
[20:11] <DaSkreech> !wifi
[20:12] <DaSkreech> I've never setup wireless before
[20:12] <dr_willis> hd0,0 would be the first patition on the hard drive.. not the same as hd0
[20:12] <ralpho> mbr
[20:12] <epimeth> sd32: I've never used synaptic
[20:12] <dr_willis> or am i confused..
[20:12]  * dr_willis rereads
[20:13] <sd32> epimeth: i cant find any search capability
[20:13] <Kovert> it liked root (hd0,0)
[20:13] <dr_willis> grub> setup (hd0)
[20:13] <DaSkreech> dr_willis: As near as I can guess it's finding grub but not the OS
[20:13] <dr_willis> root is not the same as setup. :)
[20:13] <Kovert> here I go
[20:13] <dr_willis> root sets where to look for the grub files...
[20:13] <dr_willis> setup actually puts the stuff on the mbr
[20:13] <DaSkreech> sd32: It has a bug you may have hit on. You need to manually rebuild the xapian database
[20:13] <Kovert> Error 17: Cannot mount selected partition
[20:14] <dr_willis> http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Installing-GRUB-natively
[20:14] <sd32> DaSkreech: not that experienced
[20:14] <Kovert> argh!
[20:14] <adi_> dr willis | adept cant find w32 codecs pack
[20:14] <adi_> where can i find them
[20:14] <adi_> ?
[20:14] <sd32> treied to look up opera and nothing
[20:15] <mrksbrd> dr_willis: still here?
[20:15] <DaSkreech> sd32: sudo update-apt-xapian-index
[20:15] <dr_willis> mrksbrd,  for now. :)
[20:15] <sd32> DaSkreech: thanks
[20:15] <ralpho> he might be reading again
[20:15] <Kovert> adi_: look up medibuntu
[20:15] <epimeth> DaSkreech: there doesn't seem to be info about ibex there... grrr... I think I'll downgrade to hardy and wait a few months.  this screen flickering is driving me nuts
[20:15] <dr_willis> !medibintu | adi_
[20:15] <dr_willis> !medibuntu | adi_
[20:15] <mrksbrd> ok back to my prob from earlier if u remember
[20:15] <adi_> what is ?
[20:15] <adi_> a website?
[20:15] <adi_> ok
[20:15] <dr_willis> 'read and follow directions' :)
[20:16] <shapeshifter> How can I enable font smoothing for gtk apps without having gnome (and thus gnome-appearance-properties) installed?
[20:16] <dr_willis> enable medibuntu repo.. install cool stuff...
[20:16] <dr_willis> heh..
[20:16] <dr_willis> mrksbrd,  i dont even rember the problem...
[20:16] <adi_> thnks
[20:16] <mrksbrd> ok...i'll pm u
[20:16] <epimeth> bye guys... .bbl
[20:16] <DaSkreech> mrksbrd: Do it here
[20:16] <DaSkreech> More people learn that way
[20:16] <Kovert> this is screwed I am folloing the link I got from dr_willis
[20:17] <Kovert> but when I do the find I get  (hd1,0)
[20:17] <DaSkreech> Kovert: that's correct
[20:17] <mrksbrd>  the problem i'm having is when booting up linux 8.10 i have to hold down "any" key to keep progress bar to continue, or it will just hang there for eternity
[20:18] <Kovert> so before when i did the setup (hd1,0) and rebooted it showed no operating system found
[20:18] <DaSkreech> Kovert: AhI see
[20:18] <DaSkreech> You don't know how to convert your drives to grub drives ?
[20:18] <Kovert> DaSkreech: I dont knwo something
[20:18] <dr_willis> Kovert,  you set the 'root'; with root first.. then run the setup command..
[20:18] <Kovert> did that
[20:19] <DaSkreech> Kovert: sda = (hd0)
[20:19] <dr_willis> rember kids.. grub totally names drives differently then Linux does.. :)
[20:19] <DaSkreech> sda1 = (hd0,0)
[20:19] <Kovert> grub> root (hd0,1)
[20:19] <dr_willis> and rember GRUB starts counting at ZERO :)
[20:19] <Kovert> Error 22: No such partition
[20:19] <Kovert> grub> root (hd0,0)
[20:19] <Kovert> grub> setup (hd0)
[20:19] <DaSkreech> sdb = (hd1)
[20:19] <Kovert> Error 17: Cannot mount selected partition
[20:19] <Kovert> grub> find /boot/grub/stage1
[20:19] <sd32> i do a search for opera in adept and it comes up with : speed dial extension for firefox, gpsk31,torK
[20:19] <dr_willis> Kovert,  try the tab key also.. grub has name/drive completiion
[20:19] <DaSkreech> Kovert: That page you are following assumes somethings
[20:20] <DaSkreech> Kovert: For example you have one drive in the computer and Windows is on the first partition and Linux is on the second
[20:20] <Kovert> I am going to try grub-install /dev/hda
[20:20] <Kovert> woudl that work?
[20:20] <DaSkreech> Kovert: You hve a different setup so please act accordingly
[20:20] <Kovert> DaSkreech: I am trying
[20:21] <DaSkreech> Kovert: Ok but are you userstanding the difference of what is written there and your setup ?
[20:21] <Kovert> DaSkreech: I am getting more confused as time goes on
[20:21] <DaSkreech> Kovert: Then lets slow down
[20:21] <Kovert> DaSkreech:thanks
[20:21] <DaSkreech> Kovert: Tell me what you understand so far
[20:21] <Kovert> I under stand that if I follow the directions
[20:22] <DaSkreech> you will screw up your computer booting
[20:22] <DaSkreech> if you copy paste them
[20:22] <Kovert> I get that the boot loader is /hd1,0
[20:22] <Kovert> it shoudl be gd0,0
[20:22] <DaSkreech> Kovert: Do you know what that means?
[20:23] <Kovert> hd 0 sector 0
[20:23] <Kovert> also know as /dev/sda
[20:23] <DaSkreech> Cool
[20:23] <Kovert> well 0,0 is drive /sda
[20:23] <DaSkreech> and grub is on hd(1,0) which is ?
[20:23] <Kovert> 1,0 is sdb
[20:24] <DaSkreech> Kovert: It's sda1 and sdb1
[20:24] <DaSkreech> hd0 is sda
[20:24] <DaSkreech> hd0,0 is sda1
[20:24] <Kovert> oh!
[20:24] <Kovert> ok
[20:24] <dr_willis> :)
[20:24] <DaSkreech> do you know the difference between sda and sda1 ?
[20:24] <Kovert> I think I used to knwo that
[20:25] <dr_willis> Grub naming schemes claim another victem! :P
[20:25] <Kovert> sda1 is a partition?
[20:25] <DaSkreech> Right! :)
[20:25] <dr_willis> sda(sda1 sda2 sda3)
[20:25] <dr_willis> :)
[20:25]  * dr_willis draws ascii diagrams
[20:26] <mrksbrd> lol.....i think 8.10 was released to early
[20:26] <sd32> now do i run the adept add/ remove or the package manager ot find programs?
[20:26] <Kovert> ok so if the mbr is on /sda and the boot is on /sdb/1
[20:26] <dr_willis> I perfer synaptic :)
[20:26] <sd32> lol
[20:26] <DaSkreech> mrksbrd: As Dave Chappel says. It came right on time
[20:26] <sd32> word
[20:27] <DaSkreech> sd32: package manager
[20:27] <sd32> DaSkreech: thanks
[20:27]  * DaSkreech senses a question from Kovert soon
[20:28] <Kovert> I want to setup grub on hd1 that has the linux partition
[20:28] <mrksbrd> DaSkreech: while he is in deep thought...........
[20:28] <Kovert> so it would be grub> setup (hd1)
[20:28] <dr_willis> If you set up grub on hd1, you need to be sure to boot hd1 from, the bios also.
[20:28] <dr_willis> yes.. i think so Kovert
[20:29] <Kovert> but i want to boot from hd0
[20:29] <Kovert> I am confused setup installs grub but doesnt chaneg the mbr?>
[20:30] <MCMetal1> hd0?
[20:30] <mrksbrd> DaSkreech: have u heard of having to hold down a key on keyboard while booting to finish process?
[20:30] <mrksbrd> Kovert: are u trying to dual boot?
[20:31] <Kovert> yes
[20:31] <mrksbrd> along with windows?
[20:31] <Kovert> yes
[20:31] <mrksbrd> very simple
[20:31] <DaSkreech> mrksbrd: Yeah some hardware driver bugs out
[20:31] <sd32> is the adept manual a seperate package?
[20:31] <mrksbrd> what version of windows?
[20:31] <DaSkreech> I've had that where when loading hardware drivers it just stops
[20:31] <DaSkreech> sd32: Manual ?
[20:31] <Kovert> mrksbrd: yeah I have been spening an hour on it
[20:32] <sd32> DaSkreech: sorry handbook
[20:32] <DaSkreech> sd32: Probably hasn't been written yet
[20:32] <mrksbrd> Kovert: what version of windows? Vista or XP
[20:32] <Kovert> XP
[20:32] <DaSkreech>  the authour of Adept pulled off an incredible task in a few weeks to code a new adept for us to ship in Ibex
[20:33] <DaSkreech> sd32: It's very surprising it is in and works at all.
[20:33] <mrksbrd> DaSkreech: ty....thats what i figured, guess i'll have to continue to deal
[20:33] <sd32> DaSkreech:  lol back to synaptik
[20:33] <mrksbrd> u have 1 hdd your using?
[20:33] <DaSkreech> sd32: If you want help out you can submit documents to nixternal adept will have much more time for polish in the future
[20:33] <Kovert> mrksbrd: 2
[20:34] <DaSkreech> mrksbrd: I had to do a reinstall shortly after that fixed it
[20:34] <sd32> DaSkreech: thanks for the calrification
[20:34] <mrksbrd> guessing you already have your windows drive partioned?
[20:34] <Kovert> yes
[20:35] <mrksbrd> DaSkreech: 4 re-installs & upgrade attempt, still same thing
[20:35] <DaSkreech> sd32: Sometimes people don't know the history of what it took to get you this software for free
[20:35] <DaSkreech> He really should be thrown a small party for his support :)
[20:35] <DaSkreech> mrksbrd: Erk has it always done that?
[20:35] <mrksbrd> just on 8.10
[20:36] <sd32> DaSkreech: effort appreciated
[20:37] <DaSkreech> sd32: Esp considering that he doesn't use Ubuntu. He was just asked if he could do this and postponed other stuff in his life
[20:38] <DaSkreech> Very nice guy
[20:38] <sd32> DaSkreech: understood
[20:38] <sd32> nothing personal
[20:38] <DaSkreech> I know
[20:38] <DaSkreech> sd32: I agree the interface needs some serious workover though.
[20:39] <sd32> just misplaced frustration
[20:39] <DaSkreech> sd32: as a thought could you list the actions that you deem as important and submit them? it would give focus for the documentation
[20:40] <sd32> DaSkreech: ill give that a try
[20:41] <DaSkreech> sd32: Enjoy Synaptic :) Isn't choice grand?
[20:41] <sd32> DaSkreech: so I should use synaptic as the main installer?
[20:42] <DaSkreech> sd32: Sure. Doesn't break anything
[20:42] <sd32> DaSkreech: ok thanks again
[20:42] <DaSkreech> dr_willis: The one thing I like adept for over synaptic is debtag coulds
[20:42] <DaSkreech> cluds
[20:42] <DaSkreech> blaaaaa
[20:42] <DaSkreech> clouds
[20:44] <MCMetal> clouds?
[20:44] <DaSkreech> clods?
[20:44] <sd32> synaptic looks wierd, like its trying to use the gnome graphics, is there any way to fix that?
[20:49] <sd32> silly me, i havent added the medibuntu repo  yet
[20:50] <sd32> why do i have need the blognux.free.fr hardy repos, are those needed??
[20:51] <MCMetal> i dont know
[20:52] <sd32> ill delete them and see what happens..:)
[20:53] <sd32> !repo
[20:57] <MCMetal> hi irgendnmetaller
[20:57] <MCMetal1> hi irgendnmetaller
[20:58] <mrksbrd> i'm sure u guys already know about this link, but here it is anyways..... http://www.getdeb.net/
[20:58] <sd32> is it gonna hurt my system to have hardy third party repos in synaptic in a intrepid distro?
[20:59] <burn_> i make and error in wine, incidetly in wineconfig where is C:/ drive i add directory /media/iso0 and that can not be chaneged now. How to change it back to only C:/, it is locked
[21:00] <mrksbrd> sd32: some shouldn't matter I don't believe, but if unsure just delete them
[21:01] <sd32> mrksbrd:  i did and it keeps putting them in, guess ineed them for some package i have
[21:03] <mrksbrd> as long as it doesn't seem to be conflicting with anything i'd just leave them3
[21:03] <sd32> ok
[21:03] <MCMetal> do you speek german?
[21:03] <mrksbrd> no sorry
[21:03] <burn_> i make and error in wine, incidetly in wineconfig where is C:/ drive i add directory /media/iso0 and that can not be chaneged now. How to change it back to only C:/, it is locked
[21:03] <Pici> !de | MCMetal
[21:04] <sd32> french repo..wonder what thats attached to
[21:05] <mrksbrd> lol...only u would know
[21:05] <sd32> lol..guess so
[21:05] <MCMetal> es is aber lustig deusch zu sprechen
[21:05] <TJ12> can someone help me...
[21:06] <mrksbrd> ask
[21:06] <sd32> !ask
[21:06] <TJ12> you know on notebooks it has the little scroll thing in the mouse pad with 6.06 it worked but i upgraded lastnigt and it dont work do you know how to fix it?
[21:07] <mrksbrd> have u ran a update then upgrade yet (not version upgrade)?
[21:07] <TJ12> havent updated since i upgraded
[21:08] <ozzy> muze se cesky?
[21:08] <ozzy> english only?
[21:08] <cuznt> yes
[21:08] <sd32> yes
[21:08] <mrksbrd> go to terminal & run........sudo apt-get update
[21:08] <cuznt> in stereo where Avail
[21:08] <sd32> lol
[21:08] <TJ12> ok
[21:08] <mrksbrd> then sudo apt-get upgrade
[21:08] <TJ12> thanks
[21:09] <ozzy> ok. i need little help. every time i restart my kubuntu, is got frozen. have anyone an idea why?
[21:09] <sd32> were all so eager
[21:09] <mrksbrd> ozzy: let me guess it freezes till u hold down a key on keyboard!
[21:10] <sigma> !cron
[21:10] <TJ12> is ubuntu built off debian
[21:10] <sigma> thats the general idea
[21:11] <ozzy> no. the screen just got black. i can move mouse... it does nothing.
[21:11] <patch_> sort of..  ubuntu is a debian based distro
[21:11] <burn_> i make and error in wine, incidetly in wineconfig where is C:/ drive i add directory /media/iso0 and that can not be chaneged now. How to change it back to only C:/, it is locked
[21:11] <ozzy> i can press keys... it do nothing then.
[21:12] <mrksbrd> hhmmmmmmm
[21:12] <sigma> kcron doesnt work
[21:13] <sigma> it never saves system crons
[21:13] <TJ12> I just did a sudo apt-get kubuntu-desktop
[21:13] <ozzy> i must say that i have two disks. one for xp and one for linux kubuntu 8.10
[21:13] <TJ12> it finished everything
[21:14] <TJ12> how do i change it from gde to kde
[21:14] <sigma> im finding myself installing gnome apps to replace the kde ones that dont work, so depressing:(
[21:14] <tyro> heh
[21:15] <tyro> anyone know of a good MP4 to AVI video converter for linux?
[21:15] <tyro> with a deb package hopefully
[21:15] <tyro> heh
[21:16] <sd32> tj12, relog and pick kde in the session settings on the login screen
[21:16] <mrksbrd> ozzy: my first guess would be 8.10, some bugs still out there, might have one
[21:17] <mrksbrd> have u tried to boot into recovery mode to see if it will load that way?
[21:19] <Kovert> ok How do I mount /dev/sdb ext3? can be ro
[21:19] <Kovert> from the live cd
[21:19] <Kovert> woops
[21:19] <Kovert> ignore me
[21:20] <Kovert> ok How do I mount /dev/sda rp windows
[21:20] <Kovert> rp = read only
[21:20] <Kovert> dr_willis: yes I am going nutz today
[21:21] <Kovert> !mount
[21:21] <burn_> i make and error in wine, incidetly in wineconfig where is C:/ drive i add directory /media/iso0 and that can not be chaneged now. How to change it back to only C:/, it is locked
[21:22] <mrksbrd> Kovert: did u load ubuntu on?
[21:22] <ozzy> ok.
[21:22] <burn_> where to find wine main config file?
[21:23] <Kovert> mrksbrd: no its a mess i want to make a live cd but i need to mount my windows cd so i can use k3b to burn it
[21:23] <Kovert> windows hd
[21:23] <Kovert> !diskmounter
[21:24] <mrksbrd> let me guess, not booting into windows now
[21:24] <Kovert> mrksbrd: :-)
[21:24] <DaSkreech> I'm back!
[21:24] <mrksbrd> windows boot.ini is messed up
[21:25] <mrksbrd> wb
[21:26] <burn_> where to find wine main config file?
[21:26] <Kovert> All i want to do is mount my windows disk read only
[21:27] <mrksbrd> for what reason, u need to boot into windows to run apps, can't mount it under linux to run apps
[21:28] <mrksbrd> burn_: not too familiar with wine
[21:29] <Kovert> mrksbrd: no I want to access a file there to burn with k3b
[21:29] <mrksbrd> aaahhhh ok
[21:29] <DaSkreech> Kovert: Got it mounted?
[21:30] <DaSkreech> burn_: ~/.wine ?
[21:30] <mrksbrd> DaSkreech.....don't asl.....lol
[21:30] <mrksbrd> *ask
[21:31] <mrksbrd> Kovert: 8.10 right?
[21:31] <TJ12> Okay, I orig installed ubuntu, then did a sudo apt-get kubuntu-desktop downloaded everything it asked me if i wanted kde or gde to be my default i choose kde, it did some more stuff, then said done.. i restarted ... but it still appears to be gde
[21:31] <TJ12> but if i start the computer or restart it it says kubuntu
[21:31] <burn_> DaSkreech i made and error in wine, acidently in wineconfig, tab drives, where is C:/ i add directory C:/medai/iso0 and not wine is now working propertly, and i can not delete that /media/iso0 it is locked, how to do that?
[21:31] <DaSkreech> Kovert: Got it mounted?
[21:31] <Kovert> No I dont have it mounted
[21:31] <Kovert> I cant mout it
[21:31] <DaSkreech> burn_: look in ~/.wine
[21:31] <Kovert> and I am going to toss this thing out the window
[21:31] <DaSkreech> Kovert: Where do you  want it mounted?
[21:32] <Kovert> in /media./window
[21:32] <mrksbrd> Tj12: sudo apt-get install kde
[21:32] <DaSkreech> sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/window
[21:32] <Kovert> the robot is out of date
[21:32] <DaSkreech> TJ12: You want to get into KDE ?
[21:33] <DaSkreech> Kovert: update it then
[21:33] <robin0800> how to get screensavers now?
[21:33] <burn_> how to find that /.wine?
[21:33] <TJ12> yes DaSkreech
[21:33] <DaSkreech> burn_: It's in ~
[21:33] <DaSkreech> TJ12:
[21:33] <burn_> wich means?
[21:33] <TJ12> tj@tj-laptop:~$ sudo apt-get kde
[21:33] <TJ12> [sudo] password for tj:
[21:33] <TJ12> E: Invalid operation kde
[21:33] <TJ12> tj@tj-laptop:~$
[21:33] <TJ12> shit
[21:33] <DaSkreech> Log out and at the login screen press Ctrl+t you will get a set of options choose which you like then relogin
[21:33] <TJ12> nevermind
[21:33] <DaSkreech> burn_: Your home directory
[21:34] <DaSkreech> !ohmy
[21:34] <Kovert> DaSkreech: mounteed
[21:34] <TJ12> i see ok let me see if it works
[21:34] <mrksbrd> Tj12: I don't think u downloaded the core files
[21:34] <DaSkreech> Kovert: easy :-)
[21:34] <Kovert> burning alt cd
[21:34] <MHz128> hello!
[21:34] <DaSkreech> mrksbrd: Did an install of kubuntu-desktop already should be good
[21:34] <TJ12> tj@tj-laptop:~$ sudo apt-get install kde
[21:34] <TJ12> Reading package lists... Done
[21:34] <DaSkreech> Kovert: Did you have the Windows drive in the machine when you installed ?
[21:35] <robin0800> where are screensavers now?
[21:35] <TJ12> Building dependency tree
[21:35] <TJ12> Reading state information... Done
[21:35] <TJ12> Package kde is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[21:35] <TJ12> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[21:35] <TJ12> is only available from another source
[21:35] <TJ12> E: Package kde has no installation candidate
[21:35] <TJ12> tj@tj-laptop:~$
[21:35] <DaSkreech> !search screensavers
[21:35] <MHz128> The default kubuntu installer keeps crashing when I try to run it. Any ideas?  (8.1 from Usb flash)
[21:35] <DaSkreech> MHz128: Where does it crash? Could be memory
[21:36] <TJ12> Got it working now
[21:36] <MHz128> DaSkreech, it boots up fine, then crashes when I run the "Install" icon from the transparent Desktop
[21:36] <mrksbrd> Tj12: u selected kde from session menu when u log in & it still defaults to GNOME?
[21:36] <TJ12> No i just chose it
[21:36] <DaSkreech> MHz128: Only on your machine or all the time?
[21:36] <TJ12> i see what i did now
[21:37] <robin0800> DaSkreech: tried that don't seem to be there anymore and wallpapers have also disapeared
[21:37] <MHz128> DaSkreech, haven't tried any other machines... but my machine does it always
[21:37] <DaSkreech> robin0800: Disappeared?
[21:37] <burn_> there is no ~/.wine
[21:38] <TJ12> My mouse wheel dont work.. it worked in 6.06 but when i upgraded it dont work anymore
[21:38] <DaSkreech> MHz128: I'd try it on at least one other machine to see if it's a hardware thing with yours but if anything you can do a md5sum
[21:38] <MHz128> DaSkreech, I've also used Unetbootin to save an extra blank CD...
[21:38] <burn_> or i cant find it neither in konsole or dolphin
[21:38] <MHz128> DaSkreech, how do you do the md5 for flash?
[21:38] <robin0800> can't find in any sources
[21:38] <DaSkreech> burn_: How are you looking for it?
[21:39] <mrksbrd> DaSkreech: do u think if I put 8.04 back on then just install KDE 4, wonder if i will get same prob
[21:39] <burn_> dir, dir ~ it shows a lot of directories but no wine
[21:39] <courtjesterg> 1fixres
[21:39] <DaSkreech> mrksbrd: possibly not
[21:39] <courtjesterg> 1fixres
[21:39] <DaSkreech> burn_: alt+>
[21:39] <DaSkreech> alt+.
[21:39] <courtjesterg> !fixres
[21:39] <Kovert> I is going to burn the live cd and try a recovery
[21:39] <mrksbrd> hmm might be a good idea to try .....what do i have to loose....time....lol
[21:39] <courtjesterg> !xconfig
[21:40] <DaSkreech> Kovert: Did you have the Windows drive in the machine when you installed ?
[21:40] <Kovert> DaSkreech: not origionaly
[21:41] <mrksbrd> be back in a bit guys
[21:41] <Kovert> DaSkreech: both were made at different times
[21:42] <TJ12> My mouse wheel dont work.. it worked in 6.06 but when i upgraded it dont work anymore
[21:42] <mrksbrd> Kovert: let me see if i understand u right, u installed windows with only 1 drive plugged in
[21:42] <Kovert> yes
[21:43] <mrksbrd> then undid the windows drive & loaded linux?
[21:43] <Kovert> yes again
[21:43] <DaSkreech> Kovert: That might be why you have so much troubles grasping it
[21:43] <mrksbrd> your never going to get it to work then w/o alot of manual reconfig
[21:43] <Kovert> oh i can grasp the drives easyly
[21:43] <Kovert> one is sailing out the windows now
[21:44] <mrksbrd> u can have the windows drive plugged in when loading linux
[21:44] <Kovert> kaffing'
[21:44] <DaSkreech> mrksbrd: It's not hard to get it to work but it's a lot easier once you have seen it working one time
[21:44] <Kovert> ok be back soon
[21:44] <mrksbrd> grub boot loader will handle entire process
[21:44] <DaSkreech> Kovert: Which window? I can stand underneath it!!!
[21:44] <Kovert> if i have to I will reinstall
[21:44] <jokester_> hi all, does anyone knows a good linuxmao channel ?
[21:44] <mrksbrd> right that's what i told him
[21:45] <DaSkreech> linuxmao ?
[21:45] <mrksbrd> let me ask u another ?......do you have the hdd's on 2 separate ide channels, or n same ribbon?
[21:45] <mrksbrd> 1 sec 2 late
[21:46] <Guest85701> ciao
[21:46] <mrksbrd> DaSkreech: wish me luck i'm going to try my luck now....lol
[21:46] <Guest85701> volevo sapere delle informazioni su kubuntu chi è italiano?
[21:47] <mrksbrd> !it
[21:47] <TJ12> !fr
[21:48] <toby_> If I click on Desktop under "system settings" my screen goes black and my monitor turns off. How else can I turn on powersaving for my monitor?
[21:52] <toby_> Sorry, not "Desktop"... "Display"
[21:59] <courtjesterg> !xconfig
[22:00] <courtjesterg> !xres
[22:00] <courtjesterg> !xfixres
[22:00] <courtjesterg> !fixres
[22:01] <courtjesterg> i hate doing my graphics card the thing won't stay activated
[22:06] <tore> ciao
[22:12] <tore> boooooooooooooooo
[22:21] <courtjesterg> !xconfig
[22:22] <courtjesterg> i got it already cool they fix and enable opengl for my 96 driver
[22:23] <courtjesterg> also the fact i didn't know about unsupported updates in adept new jernal version and stuff
[22:23] <courtjesterg> kernal
[22:26] <thiru> asda
[22:26] <thiru> hi
[22:27] <thiru> wat to do tell
[22:33] <boggystudios> When I try to ping www.google.com I get this message "ping: sendmsg: Operation not permitted" over and over again.  I have an IP address and a default route and I can ping my own ip address.  What could be the problem?
[22:36] <dr_willis> boggystudios,  are you using ubuntu/kubuntu/or some other variants?
[22:36] <boggystudios> kubuntu
[22:36] <dr_willis> check this...
[22:36] <dr_willis>  -l /bin/ping
[22:36] <dr_willis> -rwsr-xr-x 1 root root 31K 2007-12-10 12:33 /bin/ping
[22:36] <dr_willis> ls -l /bin/ping
[22:36] <systemroot> alguien habla español?
[22:37] <dr_willis> and see if its '-rwsr- '   like that one
[22:38] <boggystudios> yeah it looks like that.  I can ping myself but I just can't ping outside anything else like a computer on my network or my default gw
[22:38] <dr_willis> weird...
[22:38] <dr_willis> try 'sudo ping google.com' perhaps?
[22:39] <boggystudios> it says "ping: unknown host www.google.com"
[22:39] <PhilRod> !es
[22:40] <dr_willis> boggystudios,  now try               sudo ping 74.125.95.104
[22:41] <boggystudios> that time it said "connect: Network is unreachable"
[22:41] <dr_willis> This is sounding more and more like some networking issue
[22:41] <dr_willis> You using any firewalls? routers? behind some business firewall?
[22:43] <boggystudios> I got kicked off my wireless but now I am connected again.  I tried to ping 74.125.95.104 again and now I get "ping: sendmsg: Operation not permitted" over and over
[22:44] <boggystudios> If it is a firewall issue it would have to be on the local machine because this is the second internet connection that I've tried.
[22:44] <dr_willis> try sudo iptables --list (i think) and look to see if you have any firewall rules setup
[22:47] <boggystudios> yeah I got a bunch of rules in there,  What am I looking for exactly?
[22:48] <dr_willis> No idea.. but i bet one of them is the problem
[22:48] <dr_willis> clear them all out and see if it works then.. :) that would prove its a firewall rule
[22:49] <dr_willis> sudo iptables --flush
[22:51] <boggystudios> i've cleared all the rules but I still get the same message.  Should I reboot?
[22:52] <dr_willis> rebooting would reinstate the rules I belive
[22:57] <boggystudios> dr_willis: well I'm still at a loss
[23:07] <cody_> does anyone here know where to put the flash player plugin for firefox?
[23:08] <Ardarandir> why dont you just apt-get it? is the regular one broken?
[23:08] <Ardarandir> and: you can look that up inside firefox, where it looks for plugins
[23:08] <cody_> well I have had some major problems
[23:09] <cody_> I tried to reinstall the flash player because all of a sudden I could only watch the first 5 seconds of any video.
[23:09] <Ardarandir> with sudo apt-get remove --purge ?
[23:09] <cody_> no...
[23:09] <cody_> I tried manually
[23:09] <Ardarandir> how that?
[23:09] <dr_willis> remove/reinstalling - rarely fixes things under Linux
[23:09] <cody_> I looked for the plugin in each directory and deleted it
[23:09] <Ardarandir> cody_: wrong action :)
[23:10] <cody_> true that dr_willis but thqt seemed to be the only thing the forums were telling
[23:10] <cody_> me
[23:10] <Ardarandir> bad forums :)
[23:10] <cody_> yeah probably for windows users
[23:10] <cody_> okay...
[23:10] <cody_> so should I try a purge then?
[23:10] <Ardarandir> cody_: seems like you deleted something which doesnt come with the package, did you?
[23:11] <cody_> I only deleted things inside the /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins directory
[23:11] <Ardarandir> cody_: purge it, reinstall it - and if that doesnt work try it manually again...
[23:11] <Ardarandir> than it should work
[23:11] <Ardarandir> *then
[23:11] <cody_> woah...
[23:11] <Ardarandir> i only got there  two files
[23:12] <Ardarandir> flashplugin-alternative.so  and npwrapper.libflashplayer.so
[23:12] <cody_> when I ran that it gave me unmet dependencies
[23:12] <Ardarandir> cody_: which?
[23:12] <cody_> libgcc1gcc-4.2-basegcc-4.2-basegcc-4.2-baselibstdc++6
[23:12] <cody_> oops
[23:12] <cody_> there are spaces in there somewhere
[23:13] <cody_> what the heck is up with thqt
[23:13] <cody_> that*
[23:14] <Ardarandir> hum, that shouldnt be dependencies, afaik
[23:14] <cody_> this problem truley is whack because everything worked fine not four hours ago.
[23:14] <Ardarandir> what exact package did you try to purge?
[23:14] <cody_> firefox
[23:14] <Ardarandir> waah
[23:14] <Ardarandir> no!
[23:15] <Ardarandir> just try flashplugin-nonfree instead ;)
[23:15] <cody_> same unmet dependencies
[23:15] <Ardarandir> really? while trying to PURGE it?
[23:15] <cody_> yeah...
[23:16] <cody_> and when trying to install whatever...
[23:16] <Ardarandir> sounds like you deleted more than that two files there...
[23:16] <cody_> I think I have a bigger proble here
[23:16] <Ardarandir> well, did you have an upgrade lately
[23:16] <Ardarandir> ?
[23:16] <Ardarandir> try aptget install -f
[23:16] <Ardarandir> *apt-get
[23:17] <cody_> I did use adept to try to update earlier
[23:17] <Ardarandir> maybe that didnt work out quite well?
[23:17] <cody_> it had some problems but I just ignored it and didnt install the things it had problems with
[23:17] <replman> Hi! What command should i use to copy the home-directory to another hdd preserving the owners, dates, permissions, ...?
[23:17] <cody_> -f worked, its running right now
[23:18] <Ardarandir> try "apt-get update -f" and "dpkg- configure -a"
[23:18] <Ardarandir> ouch - i meant "dpkg --configure -a"
[23:18] <Ardarandir> ok, that sound good
[23:18] <cody_> I figured...
[23:19] <Ardarandir> so you had a not finished upgrade - thats the thing ou should check first next time youre experiencing packaging problems :)
[23:19] <cody_> the weird thing is that in opera I can play the youtube videos but only for the first 5 seconds...
[23:20] <Ardarandir> well, thats no reason for deleting some files on your computer you dont really know what they do
[23:20] <cody_> The nice thing about opera is that it actually tells me where it looks for plugins, and so I put the .so file where it looked
[23:20] <cody_> I deleted .so files
[23:20] <cody_> from plugin directories
[23:20] <dr_willis> sounds like its more of a flash issue then a plugins being in the wrong place issues.
[23:20] <Ardarandir> agreed
[23:21] <dr_willis> sounds liek flash is buffering/crashing or somthing
[23:21] <cody_> hmmm, well I have downloaded it like 3 different times already...
[23:21] <cody_> flash 10 that is.
[23:21] <cody_> tar.gz file from adboe
[23:21] <Ardarandir> cody_: why not use the kubuntu packages?
[23:22] <cody_> I didnt try the package management system though
[23:22] <Ardarandir> for what reason?
[23:22] <cody_> I saw nonfree and decided that it costed money ha ha
[23:22] <Ardarandir> ouch
[23:22] <cody_> lol
[23:22] <cody_> rediculous I guess.
[23:22] <Ardarandir> try and google "free software" *g*
[23:23] <Ardarandir> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_software
[23:26] <cody_> alright finished with dowloading
[23:26] <Ardarandir> and configuring?
[23:27] <Ardarandir> try "apt-get install -f" and "dpkg --configure -a" several times, before and after a "apt-get upgrade" to be sure :)
[23:27] <dr_willis> yea. nonfree and 'restricted' could use better terms... for the repos
[23:29] <cody_> dang, still the same shit
[23:29] <cody_> cant play jack
[23:29] <Ardarandir> cody_: do a "apt-get remove --purge flashplugin-nonfree" and a "apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree" and, if i may speak as a teacher:  learn about "free software" and write an one page essay about why adobe's "flash" isnt "free"...
[23:30] <Ardarandir> *smile*
[23:30] <HRshovinstuff> gnome-do  is possible the coolest program ever created for ubuntu
[23:30] <cody_> I write clicked on the window and it looks like it using something called swfdec to try to play the youtube videos
[23:31] <Ardarandir> cody_: SWF means "shockwave flash" and DEC means "decoder"
[23:31] <Ardarandir> cody_: 'd be best you just did as i told ya :)
[23:32] <Ardarandir> got to prepare some history lesson for monday, i'm AFK now, bye :)
[23:33] <dutch__>  /part
[23:38] <cody_> well I stil have the same problem after all that...