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Ryan52erm. why is Bug 137526 private?04:33
ubottuBug 137526 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/137526 is private04:33
Ryan52maybe I have bugs mixed up, though...since I can't really tell anymore :P04:33
james_wRyan52: did you just submit it through apport?04:41
Ryan52oh, no, was it just submitted.04:42
Ryan52if so, then my mistake. I thought it was a bug that was already there that just became private.04:42
james_wno04:42
james_wI can see it04:42
Ryan52okay.04:43
james_wI believe it's someone doing stuff wrong04:43
james_wIt doesn't look private04:43
james_wbut I am relucatant to open it up04:43
james_wI'm going to alert the launchpad folks to the user, as it is the second time I have seen odd behaviour04:43
Ryan52okay, thanks.04:44
james_wI think that they are testing the launchpad API and not being sensible about it04:44
james_wRyan52: thanks for bringing it up04:46
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nelleryis bug 300914 from the same guy that has been spamming reports recently?05:53
ubottuBug 300914 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/300914 is private05:53
Hobbseenellery: probably.  they haven't actually managed to properly deactivate the account.05:53
nelleryHobbsee: so best to mark them all invalid?05:53
Hobbseenellery: so far, people are hoping that the LOSAs are going tobe able to do a mass revert.05:54
nelleryHobbsee: okay05:55
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Hobbseedebian bug #44520408:04
ubottuDebian bug 445204 in rss-glx "rss-glx: screensavers consume 100% CPU" [Normal,Closed] http://bugs.debian.org/44520408:04
Hobbseeman...08:21
HobbseeIf anyone wanted something to triage, the bugs on https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rss-glx would be great!08:21
Ryan52can somebody set some bug importances for me? here's my list (bugnumber => suggested_importance_level): 105078 => low, 105082 => low, 276517 => low, 276525 => low, 276529 => medium, 276530 => low, 293240 => medium09:15
Ryan52and, can somebody change the status on 276534 to wont fix instead of invalid. I knew there was a won't fix, but not seeing it in the list made me think I was wrong...and now I figured out that there is a status called wont't fix, but I just don't have permission to use it. -_-09:28
* Ryan52 goes to send an application to join the ubuntu-bugcontrol team, so that he doesn't have to do this again.09:29
BUGabundohi09:34
BUGabundois bugs.kde.org working for anyone?09:34
BUGabundoI would like to upstream a new bug I created on LP09:34
BUGabundobut it seems to fail when creating a new bug09:35
BUGabundopersia: have a nice vacation!09:53
Ryan52okay, sleep time for me...10:06
BUGabundoguud nite Ryan10:09
BUGabundoguud nite Ryan5210:09
maxriskfactorI reported a bug on launchpad, but can anyone help me to classify the package to which it belongs?10:34
BUGabundomaxriskfactor: what bug is it?10:36
maxriskfactorBUGabundo, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/299188 this is the bug report10:36
ubottuUbuntu bug 299188 in ubuntu "Laptop hardware buttons for sound doesnt work when there is a drop down menu" [Undecided,New]10:36
maxriskfactorBUGabundo, When I right-click on desktop or have Application or Places drop down box, and then try to change the volume of the speaker via button on my laptop, its fails10:37
BUGabundoahh maxriskfactor10:38
BUGabundoI see what you mean10:38
BUGabundoI guess that's a metacity bug10:38
maxriskfactorBUGabundo, but I dont have any desktop effects enabled10:39
BUGabundoif any menu dropdown is choosen lots of other common actions will fail to work10:39
BUGabundometacity is the 2D window manager!10:39
BUGabundonot the compiz one (emerald)10:39
maxriskfactorBUGabundo, I confused between metacity and emerald :P10:39
maxriskfactorbut this should not happen, sound +/- should happen in background10:40
BUGabundoyeah10:40
BUGabundoso should Firefox allow you to change windows when you have a new link being write on the awsome bar10:41
BUGabundoits so annoying!10:41
BUGabundotry that10:41
maxriskfactorFAILED! :(10:41
BUGabundoreporting now10:42
BUGabundoplease confirme it once I have it up10:42
maxriskfactorBUGabundo, confirming the Firefox problem?10:43
BUGabundodidn't you just said it failed?10:43
maxriskfactoryes, it didnt allow me to switch windows using Alt+Tab when Awesome bar was showing its awesomeness10:43
BUGabundoyeah10:44
maxriskfactorBUGabundo, so should i change the package to metacity of that bug?10:44
* BUGabundo steals maxriskfactor description10:45
BUGabundoI already did file your bug10:45
maxriskfactorBUGabundo, changed it or made another?10:45
BUGabundoalready there10:46
BUGabundohttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/2219910:46
ubottuUbuntu bug 22199 in firefox "Firefox steals Alt-Tab whilst in URL completion drop-down" [Unknown,Confirmed]10:46
BUGabundoI set the package for your bug10:46
maxriskfactorBUGabundo, Thanks! :)10:46
BUGabundohope QA team agrees with me10:46
maxriskfactorI dont have much idea of bugs being fixed10:47
maxriskfactorbut will the developers pay attention to such bugs?10:47
BUGabundothey do, sure110:49
maxriskfactori have only being reproducing bugs and reporting them on launchpad till now10:50
maxriskfactoror assigning packages to bugs which have not been assigned packages, but only for those bugs, which i understand10:51
BUGabundoyou lost me there10:52
maxriskfactorBUGabundo, didnt get what you mean by "You lost me there"10:53
BUGabundoyeah10:53
BUGabundowe both got lost with each other talks!10:53
BUGabundoI also don't get what you are talking about10:54
maxriskfactorBUGabundo, yeah.... were you busy with something else?10:54
BUGabundomany chanels, email, feeds, and 2 BTS10:56
BUGabundolol10:56
maxriskfactor:)11:03
serialI have a bug report for mouse tweaks (accsessiblity)11:12
serialbut i am total newb11:12
maxriskfactorserial, what's the problem?11:14
BUGabundoeheh maxriskfactor now you are on the other side of things... lol11:14
serialwhen I activate "trigger secoundary click by holding primary button" in  accessibility, the mouse goes interlaced transparent and distorted11:15
maxriskfactorBUGabundo, trying my hands too, help this guy out... am also trying11:15
serialre-login and reboot fixes the mouse appearance, but the right-click is not working, even though its still checked in the sccessibility GUI11:16
serialsoory for my newbness, I am using a Macbook Pro and Ibex11:16
maxriskfactorserial, that would furthur complicate the situation.... I think some expert can help you out better11:17
BUGabundoyeah11:17
BUGabundoit goes above my head too11:17
maxriskfactorBUGabundo, my mouse config anf mouse accessibility doesnt work.... just says opening... and doesnt open, so i cant reproduce11:18
serialaight but is there anywhere I can read how to report a bug properly? I could probably figure out how to log the process from terminal and get some code-dumps from GNOME if I just have a tut11:18
BUGabundoserial: when you start to create a but11:20
BUGabundo*bug11:21
BUGabundothere is a link to a wiki page11:21
BUGabundowith all the info you need11:21
maxriskfactorserial, Logs can be accessed from System>Administration>System Log11:21
maxriskfactorBUGabundo, what section of Logs should I check for mouse and keyboard logs?11:22
serialcreate a bug?11:22
BUGabundono idea11:23
maxriskfactorBUGabundo, I tried Xorg.0.log , nothing shown there11:23
BUGabundodmesg?11:23
maxriskfactorserial, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs11:23
maxriskfactorBUGabundo, trying11:23
maxriskfactorserial, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpingWithBugs11:24
serialthanks, you have been most helpful.11:25
serialHave a nice weekend! :)11:25
maxriskfactorserial, :)11:25
maxriskfactorBUGabundo, that's too useless.... looks like basic input devices like keyboard and mouse arnt logged11:25
BUGabundosyslog?11:26
BUGabundoeheh11:26
BUGabundo. /var/log/ should have all you need11:26
BUGabundoeven if you have to grep it11:26
BUGabundolOL11:26
maxriskfactorBUGabundo, tried syslog and messages in the beginng and still found nothing11:26
maxriskfactorBUGabundo, I do tail -f /var/log/syslog  so that even new updates to log can be shown in rel time11:27
BUGabundowhat are u trying to find?11:27
BUGabundoyeah that a way to do it11:27
maxriskfactorBUGabundo, when I open mouse settings, it shows Opening Mouse and nothing comes after that11:27
BUGabundohumm11:28
BUGabundothat's another stuff11:28
BUGabundoand I doubt it gets logged11:28
maxriskfactorBUGabundo, I also doubt that it gets logged... those are too basic things, the log would get spammed with such events11:28
BUGabundoyah11:29
maxriskfactorBUGabundo, had a nice time meeting you. Thanks a lot...11:30
maxriskfactorI need to goto study.... Exams on head11:30
BUGabundobye11:30
Hobbseebug 24371911:31
ubottuLaunchpad bug 243719 in rss-glx "libopenal-dev is missing the .la file" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/24371911:31
BUGabundohi Hobbsee11:33
Hobbseehey BUGabundo11:34
BUGabundohummm that lib isn't strange to me11:34
BUGabundowhy is that?11:34
DarkKnightpersia; u ther??12:41
FlimmI've uploaded a fix for a bug in my PPA, should I change the status of the bug report?13:02
savvasshould bugs about wiki.ubuntu.com be linked to the moin (Ubuntu) source?14:01
persiaDarkKnight, Yes.14:03
persiaFlimm: If you've a fixed in a PPA, please also attach a patch to the bug.  "Triaged" is the correct status.14:03
persiasavvas, Depends on the class of bug.  If it's a moin bug, probably.  If it's something odd specifically about wiki.ubuntu.com, probably not.  Dunno where those are really supposed to go though.14:04
savvaspersia: I had reported a bug about wiki.ubuntu.com before to the ubuntu-website project, but it was marked as invalid14:07
savvashttps://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/moin/+bug/30099714:07
ubottuUbuntu bug 300997 in moin "monthcalendar on ubuntu wikis - unattractive brown/red colours" [Undecided,New]14:07
savvasthis is the new one14:07
savvasit's really specific to the wiki at ubuntu, since someone has changed the hardcoded css colours to that ugly red :P14:08
persiaThen that's not a bug against moin.14:09
persiaSo that one's invalid too.14:09
persiaMaybe you need an RT ticket?14:09
savvasdarn14:09
savvashow we get that?14:09
savvas*how do14:09
savvasah now I see your point, the older one was really relevant to the moinmoin software14:10
savvashttps://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/moin/+bug/15738514:11
ubottuUbuntu bug 157385 in moin "moinmoin - Ubuntu wiki doesn't support links besides http://" [Low,Fix released]14:11
persiaRight.14:12
persiaI just have no idea how to report issues with the configuration of moin on wiki.ubuntu.com14:12
persiaIf it's an issue with the software, or the default configuration, the bug belongs there.14:13
persiaIf it's specific to the configuration, it needs to go to the wiki.ubuntu.com admins (and I'm not sure who that would be).14:13
savvasso it's not for ubuntu-website ?14:14
savvasyou know what's the weird thing? even the loco teams have their wikis registered as projects, the ubuntu website seems to be set as a whole in one project14:16
savvasyou know what? I'll leave them both there, perhaps the problem is in the moinmoin wiki package in ubuntu as well, I can't pinpoint it right now with all that css14:18
savvasIf no-one replies in the next 4-5 days, I'll contact the rt admins as you said and set the bug as invalid14:18
persiaI thought you said that the ubuntu-website team rejected a bug against the wiki before.14:21
persiaMaybe there ought be an ubuntu-wiki project?14:21
persiaOnly issue is that most of the reported "bugs" will probably just be edits, which people could just do.14:21
Rocket2DMnYou are looking to file a bug against wiki.ubuntu.com?14:25
Rocket2DMnYou could just not file it against a package, you could also probably file it against ubuntu-website or ubuntu-doc14:28
persiaRocket2DMn, Yes, but against the configuration: not the software, and not the content.14:29
persiaubuntu-doc is a good idea.14:29
Rocket2DMnyeah, there really isnt a specific team/package for wiki.ubuntu.com14:29
Rocket2DMnubuntu-doc primilary does help.ubuntu.com and the /community section14:29
Rocket2DMnsince Canonical hosts the wiki, ubuntu-website might fly,too14:30
persiaWell, ubuntu-website isn't all canonical folk either.14:30
persiaBut someone on that team probably can redirect to the appropriate procedure for asking the admins to look at the settings.14:31
Rocket2DMnive seen wiki bugs filed against both teams14:31
savvaswhy don't they separate the ubuntu-website to the appropriate sections? ubuntu.com-website wiki.ubuntu.com-website help.ubuntu.com-website etc14:34
persiasavvas, Maybe not enough bugs to make a difference.14:35
Rocket2DMnthe projects were probably created independently14:36
savvasyou're probably right, but sanity should be first priority :)14:36
savvasI'll file a bug about that hehe14:36
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BUGabundowhat's the prog/package that is used on the live cd installer?16:33
BUGabundoI want to open an usabilty bug16:33
chrisccoulsonubiquity?16:33
BUGabundomaybe16:34
chrisccoulsonis your problem with the actual installer?16:34
BUGabundohttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/30102916:35
ubottuUbuntu bug 301029 in ubiquity "installer shows two password fields without explaing why" [Undecided,New]16:35
BUGabundoI'm at an install event16:35
chrisccoulsonyeah, that's the correct package16:35
BUGabundoand an user just asked why was there two fields!16:35
BUGabundois it clear chrisccoulson16:37
BUGabundo?16:37
persiaBUGabundo, The reason is to verify the input.  With only one input field, there's no way to check for typos, but yes, this could perhaps be made more clear.16:37
chrisccoulsonyeah, your bug report is clear i think16:37
persiaIn the bug, please share that a user was asking, and as much information about the user's confusion as possible, to better inform the interface designers.16:38
bucket529Could somebody please change bug 274453 from 'Undecided' to 'Wishlist'?16:42
ubottuLaunchpad bug 274453 in opencascade "[Feature Request] Support for netgen and gmsh" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/27445316:42
BUGabundothanks for the input persia. enjoy your vacations, dude16:59
bucket529Could somebody please change bug 274453 from 'Undecided' to 'Wishlist'? (second request)17:25
ubottuLaunchpad bug 274453 in opencascade "[Feature Request] Support for netgen and gmsh" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/27445317:25
Ryan52that's fairly disappointing. nobody changed the statuses and importances that I asked for last night, and nobody responded to my request to be a bugcontrol member.17:40
Ryan52I really don't get why these things are restricted.17:40
Ryan52I mean, if somebody wants to do damage, they're gonna do it with words, not with importances. -_-17:40
Ryan52but maybe I'm missing something.17:41
techno_freakRyan52, for every bug reporter his/her bug is of high priority, but it might not be so in the big picture. Hence we have bug control with a good experience of dealing and deciding what's important and how much.17:49
techno_freakRyan52, secondly, if you've submitted a request with 5 of your best triages, then you should get a reply soon. it usually takes some time and doesn't happen within a day or two.17:50
Ryan52I understand that taking time, it's just sad that there's nobody here who is nice enough to use their power for me.17:51
pheerormore funny is when you attach a paych and there is absolutely no respond17:51
Ryan52well, for anybody who cares:17:52
Ryan5201:15 < Ryan52> can somebody set some bug importances for me? here's my list (bugnumber => suggested_importance_level): 105078 => low, 105082 => low, 276517 => low, 276525 => low, 276529 => medium, 276530 =>  low, 293240 => medium17:52
techno_freakRyan52, use power for?17:52
Ryan5201:22 -!- woody86 [n=steve@adsl-76-217-94-220.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu-bugs17:52
Ryan5201:28 < Ryan52> and, can somebody change the status on 276534 to wont fix instead of invalid. I knew there was a won't fix, but not seeing it in the list made me think I was wrong...and now I figured out that  there is a status called wont't fix, but I just don't have permission to use it. -_-17:52
Ryan52techno_freak: that :)17:52
techno_freakRyan52, isn't there a reason for marking it invalid17:53
techno_freak?17:53
Ryan52techno_freak: I did that. I shouldn't have. It's a perfectly fine bug report (nothing "invalid" about it), I just don't want to fix it.17:54
techno_freakbug 27653417:54
ubottuLaunchpad bug 276534 in gstm "gstm should drop gaskpass and Depend: ssh-askpass" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/27653417:54
Ryan52and, I don't think I mentioned an importance for that one, but it should be Wishlist, as it's sort of a new feature. :)17:55
techno_freakRyan52, well, marking it as invalid moves it away from attention. marking it as new or confirmed, and giving out a reason for won't fix might help17:55
Ryan52if you look at it, I said this:17:56
Ryan52Since all of these bugs are extremely trivial to fix, I will just fix the bugs themselves and not replace gaskpass.17:56
Ryan52Thanks, though. -- Ryan17:56
techno_freakRyan52, ya, just saw it. a bit of patience might help, am sure somebody will read through and make the change :)17:57
Ryan52techno_freak: can't you? :D17:57
techno_freakRyan52, If I could, it would've got done by now ;)17:58
Ryan52okay :(17:58
Ryan52it's not so much that I don't have patience, but irc is not a very good way of asking for help like this, as people come and go, and people forget easily. so I ask every 8 hours or so to remind them :)18:00
techno_freakRyan52, well at most times, someone from bug control is awake and helps out instantly, i don't see much activity in other channels as well18:01
Ryan52okay.18:02
Ryan52I'll ask again in 8 hours, then give up and stop trying to help Ubuntu. cause I really don't care that much. -_-18:20
nhandlerRyan52: What is the change you need?18:22
Ryan5201:15 < Ryan52> can somebody set some bug importances for me? here's my list (bugnumber => suggested_importance_level): 105078 => low, 105082 => low, 276517 => low, 276525 => low, 276529 => medium, 276530 =>  low, 293240 => medium18:23
Ryan5201:22 -!- woody86 [n=steve@adsl-76-217-94-220.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu-bugs18:23
Ryan5201:28 < Ryan52> and, can somebody change the status on 276534 to wont fix instead of invalid. I knew there was a won't fix, but not seeing it in the list made me think I was wrong...and now I figured out that  there is a status called wont't fix, but I just don't have permission to use it. -_-18:23
nhandlerRyan52: Done. I'll trust your judgement (since you are the Original-Maintainer)18:25
Ryan52yay! thanks so much! :)18:26
nhandlerYou're welcome Ryan5218:26
nhandlerThank you for your pacience18:26
nhandlerRyan52: Was that the only thing you needed done?18:27
Ryan52did you do these?18:28
Ryan5210:23 < Ryan52> 01:15 < Ryan52> can somebody set some bug importances for me? here's my list (bugnumber => suggested_importance_level): 105078 => low, 105082 => low, 276517 => low, 276525 => low, 276529 =>  medium, 276530 =>  low, 293240 => medium18:28
* Ryan52 only sees the "Wont fix" change18:28
nhandlerNo, I didn't see that list18:28
nhandlerGive me a few minutes to go through it18:29
nhandlerWhy would 105082 be low?18:31
Ryan52seems like a "A cosmetic/usability issue that does not limit the functionality of an application" issue to me.18:31
Ryan52(to quote the wiki page)18:32
nhandlerI don't know. I personally wouldn't consider having Esc close the application a bug. It was done intentionally. This bug report is asking for that feature to be changed. I personally would think of it more of a wishlist bug18:33
Ryan52okay, ya, I suppose so. I was debating about that one.18:33
Ryan52so ya, Wishlist is fine.18:34
nhandlerRyan52: Is there a reason Ubuntu Bugs is subscribed to 276517?18:36
Ryan52I didn't do it.18:37
nhandlerAnd why is 276529 meant to be medium?18:39
Ryan52If it's honestly trying to ask that question, it would be quite confusing to not see the end.18:41
nhandlerI still think it would be Low. It isn't honestly affecting the usability. The bug just makes a question confusing.18:42
Ryan52okay, go for it.18:42
nhandlerRyan52: I think I got all of the bugs in your list18:45
Ryan52yup, you did, thanks! :)18:45
nhandlerYou're welcome18:45
Ryan52gotta go, bye.18:45
nhandlerBye Ryan5218:46
histoHello quick question. I've found a bug in yelp that has remerged with intrepid. The bug #112002 used to be around in fiesty and was fixed and closed.  So do I report a completely new bug? or do something else?19:22
ubottuLaunchpad bug 112002 in yelp "Wrong url for the online search." [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/11200219:22
invalidrecordhi i think this is a bona fide bug, its keepin me stuck in the office unable to leave anyway http://www.pastie.org/321477 its an issue with apamor and bind from what i can tell19:26
histoAlright well i marked the old bug as new and added a comment since no one is around hopefully this was proper.19:29
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angusthefuzzcan someone please mark bug 301054 -> low.  I think it also needs to be upstreamed.20:34
ubottuLaunchpad bug 301054 in firefox-3.0 "Title text longer than a certain amount will not show in Element Properties dialog box" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/30105420:34
angusthefuzzactually, bug 301052 can also be set to low importance20:50
ubottuLaunchpad bug 301052 in gnome-games "Nibbles: pressing arrowkeys down and right make you lose control" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/30105220:50
nelleryangusthefuzz: done!20:54
angusthefuzzthanks nellery :-)21:04
nelleryno problem21:04
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andresmujicahey guys, how can i receive files via bluetooth from a nokia N95???23:23
Hobbsee#ubuntu for support?23:24
andresmujicahmm wrong channel sorry23:24
andresmujicayeap... :)23:24

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