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=== tgm4883_laptop_ is now known as tgm4883_laptop
wosanyone here?02:13
woscould anyone tell me if ubuntu and mythbuntu are the same thing basically if you take out the TV features?02:32
tgm4883_laptopwos, kinda02:35
tgm4883_laptopI mean, they have different things installed02:36
tgm4883_laptopbut underneath, they run the same kernel02:36
wostgm4883_laptop, could i get support for mythbuntu in the ubuntu channel, for non tv related problems?02:37
foxbuntuwos, yes, for the most part, but folks here know a little more than MythTV02:38
hadsMythbuntu is Ubuntu, it's all the same packages.02:39
wosoh cool02:39
foxbuntuessentially02:39
wosthen why is there a separate install CD?02:39
hadsSame reason there;'s Kubuntu etc.02:40
wosyes but Kubuntu has a lot of differences02:40
foxbuntuits customized to the user groups, to make it very easy02:40
foxbuntubelieve me when I say there is allot of differences between Ubuntu and Mythbuntu02:41
hadswos: Kubuntu is the same also, it's all the same packages.02:41
hadsIt's one repository.02:41
foxbuntuhads, I think that might be confusing for someone not knowing what the packages are02:41
woskubuntu has separate packages for certain items though02:42
hadsAs does Mythbuntu, but you can install any of them on any install.02:42
foxbuntuwos, the point hads is making is that they all reside in the same repository02:42
hadsfoxbuntu: *shrug* I guess it could be, doesn't seem confusing to me.02:42
foxbuntuhads, nor me02:43
foxbuntu:)02:43
hads:)02:43
wosdoes mythbuntu have a different user interface?02:43
foxbuntuits XFCE02:43
foxbuntuso like Xubuntu02:43
hadsJust with a customised theme etc.02:43
foxbuntuindeed02:43
hadsFrom a package ;)02:44
foxbuntuhaha02:44
wosits xfce? fxck02:44
foxbuntuwos, ?02:44
foxbuntuwos, its easily changed02:44
foxbuntuyou dont like XFCE, pick KDE, or Gnome02:44
woshow?02:44
hadsOr start mythfrontned from xinit or whatever :)02:45
foxbuntuMythbuntu-Control-Centre02:45
hadsSo when it crashes you're not left with a blank screen :)02:45
foxbuntulol02:45
foxbuntuhads, you are a cli hooker arent you02:45
hads:)02:45
foxbuntualways whoring out the cli02:46
hadsMaybe a little02:46
foxbuntulol02:46
* hads cranks out irssi mutt and links02:46
foxbuntulol02:47
foxbuntuI'll stick with xchat and gnome02:47
foxbuntuwith FF02:47
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hadsI only actually use irssi daily out of those.02:48
hadsKMail and FF usually.02:48
foxbuntuah, figures, usually those that are hardcore cli use KDE for their GUI02:50
foxbuntu;)02:50
hadsI've actually been undecided lately, switching back and forth.02:52
hadsBut I just really prefer KMail to any other mail client, especially the keyboard shortcuts. Pity it eats my mail every once in a while but I've got backups :)02:53
foxbuntuI've never been into KDE02:53
foxbuntubut thats just me02:54
foxbuntuI should prob look at the new KDE4 though02:54
hadsI'm looking forward to 4.2, 4.0 and 4.1 haven't really done it for me yet. Their work is amazing but just didn't quite fit me yet.02:55
hadsThe polish that Ubuntu has with Gnome is unrivaled though.02:55
foxbuntuindeed02:56
foxbuntuand its only getting better02:56
hadsYup02:57
=== Timrit_away is now known as Timrit
ChaorainI am a linux newb and I would like to know how do I get a free tv guide for Myth TV03:37
meei just installed mythbuntu, can anyone tell me how to watch tv now03:53
meei have a hauppage wintv hvr 950q03:53
meewhen i press "watch tv" nothing happens03:53
rhpot1991_laptop!blank | mee03:55
ZinnSorry I don't know about blank03:55
rhpot1991_laptop!blank% | mee03:55
Zinnmee: If you try to watch tv and are greeted with a blank screen and a return to the menu then please check the permissions on your recording directory.  It should be owned by mythtv:mythtv, have permissions of 775, and not be inside your home directory03:55
meewhere is the recording direcrtory?03:57
meerhpot1991_laptop, where is the recording directory04:01
meecan anyone help me please04:04
foxbuntumee, its where ever you setup your storage group to reside, the default is /var/lib/mythtv/recordings/04:05
tgm4883_laptopmee, did you get the firmware for that card?04:06
meeno04:06
tgm4883_laptopthats probably your problem04:07
tgm4883_laptopwere you able to scan for channels?04:07
meehttp://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Hauppauge_WinTV_HVR-95004:08
meeno04:08
meeim confused04:09
tgm4883_laptopyea follow those directions04:09
meetgm4883_laptop, i dont understand those directions04:12
tgm4883_laptopwhat part?04:13
tgm4883_laptop]04:13
tgm4883_laptopdownload the firmware first: wget http://www.steventoth.net/linux/xc5000/HVR-12x0-14x0-17x0_1_25_25271_WHQL.zip04:13
tgm4883_laptopExtract the file hcw85bda.sys from the zip into the current dir: unzip -j HVR-12x0-14x0-17x0_1_25_25271_WHQL.zip Driver85/hcw85bda.sys04:13
tgm4883_laptopCopy the resulting firmware file into /lib/firmware: cp xc3028-v27.fw /lib/firmware04:13
tgm4883_laptopactually, i missed this step Next, go into the v4l/linux/Documentation/video4linux directory, there will be a file called extract_xc3028.pl Copy this file into the directory where you originally placed hcw85bda.sys. Run the file with the command: ./extract_xc3028.pl04:14
meewhat?????  Extract the file hcw85bda.sys from the zip into the current dir: unzip -j HVR-12x0-14x0-17x0_1_25_25271_WHQL.zip Driver85/hcw85bda.sys04:15
tgm4883_laptopdid you download the file?04:16
meeyes sir04:16
tgm4883_laptopok, then open a terminal and do04:16
tgm4883_laptop\unzip -j HVR-12x0-14x0-17x0_1_25_25271_WHQL.zip Driver85/hcw85bda.sys04:16
tgm4883_laptopunzip -j HVR-12x0-14x0-17x0_1_25_25271_WHQL.zip Driver85/hcw85bda.sys04:16
meewhich one04:16
tgm4883_laptopthe second one04:17
tgm4883_laptopjust like the directions say04:17
meemee@mee-desktop:~$ unzip -j HVR-12x0-14x0-17x0_1_25_25271_WHQL.zip Driver85/hcw85bda.sys04:17
meeunzip:  cannot find or open HVR-12x0-14x0-17x0_1_25_25271_WHQL.zip, HVR-12x0-14x0-17x0_1_25_25271_WHQL.zip.zip or HVR-12x0-14x0-17x0_1_25_25271_WHQL.zip.ZIP.04:17
meemee@mee-desktop:~$04:17
tgm4883_laptopwhere did you download the file to?04:17
meedesktop04:17
tgm4883_laptopok04:18
tgm4883_laptopcd Desktop04:18
tgm4883_laptopthen run the command04:18
meemee@mee-desktop:~$ cd desktop04:18
meebash: cd: desktop: No such file or directory04:18
meemee@mee-desktop:~$04:18
tgm4883_laptopcapitol D04:19
tgm4883_laptopit's case sensitive04:19
meeok04:20
meeim done04:20
meenow try it?04:20
tgm4883_laptopyea04:20
meeno04:21
meeno its not working04:21
tgm4883_laptopok04:21
tgm4883_laptoperror?04:21
meeblank04:21
tgm4883_laptopwhat do you mean blank?04:21
meethen returns to the main screen in a half of a second04:21
tgm4883_laptopsec04:22
tgm4883_laptopdo this04:22
tgm4883_laptopcd ~/04:22
tgm4883_laptopwget http://www.steventoth.net/linux/xc5000/HVR-12x0-14x0-17x0_1_25_25271_WHQL.zip04:23
tgm4883_laptopunzip -j HVR-12x0-14x0-17x0_1_25_25271_WHQL.zip Driver85/hcw85bda.sys04:23
meeok04:24
meedone04:24
tgm4883_laptopand it unziped?04:24
meei followed your directions so i think so04:25
meebut the directions say something about a tarball04:25
tgm4883_laptopit would say something like   inflating: hcw85bda.sys04:25
meeyes it did say that04:26
tgm4883_laptopmee, are you running 8.10 or 8.04?04:26
mee8.1004:26
tgm4883_laptopgood04:26
tgm4883_laptopso you don't have to worry about the tarball part04:26
meeok04:26
meeill try it now04:26
meeit doesnt work04:27
tgm4883_laptopwhat doesn't work?04:27
meetv04:27
tgm4883_laptopnot done yet04:27
meeok04:27
tgm4883_laptopok now do04:29
tgm4883_laptopcp /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.27-7/Documentation/video4linux/extract_xc3028.pl ~/04:29
meeok04:29
meei did that04:30
meenothing happened04:30
tgm4883_laptopok, did it copy04:30
meei dont know, how would i know?04:30
tgm4883_laptopdid it say not found?04:30
meeno04:30
tgm4883_laptopok then it should have worked04:32
tgm4883_laptopnow do04:32
tgm4883_laptop./extract_xc3028.pl04:32
meemee@mee-desktop:~$ ./extract_xc3028.pl04:33
meebash: ./extract_xc3028.pl: Permission denied04:33
meemee@mee-desktop:~$ sudo ./extract_xc3028.pl04:33
mee[sudo] password for mee:04:33
meesudo: ./extract_xc3028.pl: command not found04:33
meemee@mee-desktop:~$04:33
tgm4883_laptopwhats the output of ls /usr/src/04:33
meecmee@mee-desktop:~$ ls /usr/src/04:34
meelinux-headers-2.6.27-7  linux-headers-2.6.27-7-generic  nvidia-177.80  rpm04:34
meemee@mee-desktop:~$04:34
tgm4883_laptopok04:34
tgm4883_laptopls -l ~/extract_xc3028.pl04:35
tgm4883_laptopwhats the output of that04:35
meemee@mee-desktop:~$ ls -l ~/extract_xc3028.pl04:35
mee-rw-r--r-- 1 mee mee 24285 2008-11-21 23:29 /home/mee/extract_xc3028.pl04:35
meemee@mee-desktop:~$04:35
tgm4883_laptopstrange04:36
tgm4883_laptop./extract_xc3028.pl04:36
tgm4883_laptopthat should have worked04:36
MythbuntuGuest14i am trying to edit my fstab and it is telling me i do not have the permissions needed, can anyone help me04:36
tgm4883_laptopMythbuntuGuest14, what are you using to edit it?04:37
tgm4883_laptopmee, ah, do chmod +x extract_xc3028.pl04:37
tgm4883_laptopthen try ./extract_xc3028.pl04:37
MythbuntuGuest14gedit04:38
meemee@mee-desktop:~$ ./extract_xc3028.pl04:38
meeFirmwares generated.04:38
meemee@mee-desktop:~$04:38
tgm4883_laptopMythbuntuGuest14, open a terminal and do "gksudo gedit /etc/fstab"04:39
tgm4883_laptopmee, great, now do04:39
tgm4883_laptopcp xc3028-v27.fw /lib/firmware04:39
tgm4883_laptopmee, you will probably have to use sudo on that04:39
meemee@mee-desktop:~$ sudo cp xc3028-v27.fw /lib/firmware04:39
meemee@mee-desktop:~$04:39
tgm4883_laptopmee, looks like it worked04:40
meeok04:40
tgm4883_laptopyou should be able to just reboot and it should work after you scan for channels and do mythtv-setup stuff04:40
meeok ill try. will you be tha here04:40
tgm4883_laptopi'm playing gears of war 2, but I should be around04:41
tgm4883_laptopor you can bug foxbuntu ;)04:41
meeok04:41
MythbuntuGuest14laptop, got any ideas of why i cannot edit my fstab now?04:42
foxbuntutgm4883_laptop, no bugging foxbuntu tonight, I am busy with stupid web junk again04:42
tgm4883_laptopMythbuntuGuest14, did you do what I said?04:42
tgm4883_laptop<tgm4883_laptop> MythbuntuGuest14, open a terminal and do "gksudo gedit /etc/fstab"04:42
MythbuntuGuest14i just saw that i am going to try it04:42
tgm4883_laptopfoxbuntu, ok, i'll field his questions then04:42
tgm4883_laptopI do have about the same hardware04:42
meeok how do i scan for channels, it did the  blank screen agian04:43
tgm4883_laptopmee, you have to go though mythtv-setup and run the channel scanner04:43
meeok04:43
meewheree is that04:43
tgm4883_laptopmee, in a terminal, type mythtv-setup04:44
MythbuntuGuest14that worked, why do i have to do that now, i have edited it before without gksudo04:44
tgm4883_laptopMythbuntuGuest14, you have to have root privledges to edit system files04:44
tgm4883_laptopso you got them before somehow04:45
MythbuntuGuest14cool...one more question i just reinstalled and now my portable drive will not show up on the desktop04:45
tgm4883_laptopMythbuntuGuest14, does it show up in your file manager?04:49
meetgm4883_laptop, how do i scan for channels?04:50
meefoxbuntu are you there??04:50
tgm4883_laptopmee, it's like step 404:50
foxbuntumee, sorry I can't provide help tonight04:50
meestep 4 in what04:51
meeok04:51
tgm4883_laptopmythtv-setup04:51
meeits not working04:52
mee:(04:52
meeits grayed out04:52
MythbuntuGuest14laptop i don't see it in file manager04:52
tgm4883_laptopmee, you are going to have to refer to http://www.mythbuntu.org/documentation/mythbuntu_8.10_installation.pdf04:54
meecan you help me04:54
tgm4883_laptopmee, i'm not paid support, I can assist you and guide you along the way, but ultimatly you will have to want to do this04:55
meei do want to do this04:55
meea lot04:55
tgm4883_laptopgood04:55
meecan you please help me04:56
tgm4883_laptopI am helping you04:56
meethe channel scanner is grayed out04:56
tgm4883_laptopDid you do step 1?04:56
tgm4883_laptopnote that my answers will come slow04:56
meetgm4883_laptop, do i have to do step 6?05:11
meetgm4883_laptop, does mythbuntu allow you to watch tv in a window?05:11
tgm4883_laptopmee, you can put mythtv in a window if you like05:14
tgm4883_laptopit's a setting under settings > appearance in the frontend05:14
meethanks05:14
meedo you have to do step 605:15
tgm4883_laptopyea05:15
hadsI guess that's why it's a step :)05:15
tgm4883_laptopyep05:15
meethe channel scanner should work before i do step 6 shouldnt it?05:17
tgm4883_laptopyes05:17
meehmmm what is the problem here05:18
* hads pulls out his crystal ball05:18
tgm4883_laptopwhat type of card did you set it up as in step 1?  DVB?05:19
* tgm4883_laptop has to run to the store real quick05:20
meeit says  HVR05:20
meehads are you there05:20
meeanyone?05:21
hadsNot really, cooking.05:22
meehads how do i get this thing to recognize my usb05:23
meemy usb tv adapter05:23
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iuaudioso what's happened to weekly builds for intrepid?06:30
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safcsatAfternoon12:53
safcsatdont suppose anyone has a recent guide for setting up mythbuntu with vdr 1.71 and getting dvb-s2 working?12:53
safcsatsick of crapy windows and mediaportal so gonna give mythbuntu a bash :)12:54
safcsathey Penfold - dont suppose u can point me in direction of an uptodate guide for getting vdr 1.71 dvb-s2 etc working on mythbuntu?13:33
Penfoldin one, I can't :) sorry :) my install is a WinTB15013:40
safcsatno worries thanks anyway :)13:41
laganow there was someone who totally missed the point :)14:11
wise_tamasre all! I've just started using Mythbuntu 8.10( backend+frontend on a desktop, frontend only on a notebook ), and I'm bumped with settings and video windows... can anyone help me out? (more info on my system setup to come if wanted)15:11
bobbob1016How can I get mythbuntu to talk to my receiver?  I have a pioneer vsx-01txh.  It has USB but for ipod connectivity.  It has a com-port (9pin I think), anyone know how to get this working?15:18
lagabobbob1016: ask pioneer?15:36
bobbob1016laga, Ok, I wasn't sure if there was mythtv thing to do it.15:37
lagabobbob1016: the commands are most likely vendor specific. i'd find out what commands are available and then go from there, eg write a script15:38
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Dennis_Hello , when i start watch tv the picture freeze , sound is ok?20:32
LyosNorezelquiet today20:52
MythbuntuGuest82Hey guys, how do I delay the loading of the backend?  I did it before, but had to reformat and install and I can't remember how to do it.  Seems like I changed it from S20 to S99, but I don't remember what folder.23:22
MythbuntuGuest82I also need to get more volume out of Myth.  Alexis is turned up all the way and the volume is 100%, but it's still very quiet.  Again, I did this before, but I can't remember how I did it.23:23
=== MythbuntuGuest82 is now known as Tooncis
TooncisI mean alsamixer23:32
LonEaglethere's a volume control in the setup in mythfrontend23:44
LonEagleyou can max that one out too23:45
TooncisI'll check...23:56
ajhtwolfhey i tried to setup my mythfrontend to connect to a remote backend and now mythfronent wont even start23:58

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