[02:13] <wos> anyone here?
[02:32] <wos> could anyone tell me if ubuntu and mythbuntu are the same thing basically if you take out the TV features?
[02:35] <tgm4883_laptop> wos, kinda
[02:36] <tgm4883_laptop> I mean, they have different things installed
[02:36] <tgm4883_laptop> but underneath, they run the same kernel
[02:37] <wos> tgm4883_laptop, could i get support for mythbuntu in the ubuntu channel, for non tv related problems?
[02:38] <foxbuntu> wos, yes, for the most part, but folks here know a little more than MythTV
[02:39] <hads> Mythbuntu is Ubuntu, it's all the same packages.
[02:39] <wos> oh cool
[02:39] <foxbuntu> essentially
[02:39] <wos> then why is there a separate install CD?
[02:40] <hads> Same reason there;'s Kubuntu etc.
[02:40] <wos> yes but Kubuntu has a lot of differences
[02:40] <foxbuntu> its customized to the user groups, to make it very easy
[02:41] <foxbuntu> believe me when I say there is allot of differences between Ubuntu and Mythbuntu
[02:41] <hads> wos: Kubuntu is the same also, it's all the same packages.
[02:41] <hads> It's one repository.
[02:41] <foxbuntu> hads, I think that might be confusing for someone not knowing what the packages are
[02:42] <wos> kubuntu has separate packages for certain items though
[02:42] <hads> As does Mythbuntu, but you can install any of them on any install.
[02:42] <foxbuntu> wos, the point hads is making is that they all reside in the same repository
[02:42] <hads> foxbuntu: *shrug* I guess it could be, doesn't seem confusing to me.
[02:43] <foxbuntu> hads, nor me
[02:43] <foxbuntu> :)
[02:43] <hads> :)
[02:43] <wos> does mythbuntu have a different user interface?
[02:43] <foxbuntu> its XFCE
[02:43] <foxbuntu> so like Xubuntu
[02:43] <hads> Just with a customised theme etc.
[02:43] <foxbuntu> indeed
[02:44] <hads> From a package ;)
[02:44] <foxbuntu> haha
[02:44] <wos> its xfce? fxck
[02:44] <foxbuntu> wos, ?
[02:44] <foxbuntu> wos, its easily changed
[02:44] <foxbuntu> you dont like XFCE, pick KDE, or Gnome
[02:44] <wos> how?
[02:45] <hads> Or start mythfrontned from xinit or whatever :)
[02:45] <foxbuntu> Mythbuntu-Control-Centre
[02:45] <hads> So when it crashes you're not left with a blank screen :)
[02:45] <foxbuntu> lol
[02:45] <foxbuntu> hads, you are a cli hooker arent you
[02:45] <hads> :)
[02:46] <foxbuntu> always whoring out the cli
[02:46] <hads> Maybe a little
[02:46] <foxbuntu> lol
[02:46]  * hads cranks out irssi mutt and links
[02:47] <foxbuntu> lol
[02:47] <foxbuntu> I'll stick with xchat and gnome
[02:47] <foxbuntu> with FF
[02:48] <hads> I only actually use irssi daily out of those.
[02:48] <hads> KMail and FF usually.
[02:50] <foxbuntu> ah, figures, usually those that are hardcore cli use KDE for their GUI
[02:50] <foxbuntu> ;)
[02:52] <hads> I've actually been undecided lately, switching back and forth.
[02:53] <hads> But I just really prefer KMail to any other mail client, especially the keyboard shortcuts. Pity it eats my mail every once in a while but I've got backups :)
[02:53] <foxbuntu> I've never been into KDE
[02:54] <foxbuntu> but thats just me
[02:54] <foxbuntu> I should prob look at the new KDE4 though
[02:55] <hads> I'm looking forward to 4.2, 4.0 and 4.1 haven't really done it for me yet. Their work is amazing but just didn't quite fit me yet.
[02:55] <hads> The polish that Ubuntu has with Gnome is unrivaled though.
[02:56] <foxbuntu> indeed
[02:56] <foxbuntu> and its only getting better
[02:57] <hads> Yup
[03:37] <Chaorain> I am a linux newb and I would like to know how do I get a free tv guide for Myth TV
[03:53] <mee> i just installed mythbuntu, can anyone tell me how to watch tv now
[03:53] <mee> i have a hauppage wintv hvr 950q
[03:53] <mee> when i press "watch tv" nothing happens
[03:55] <rhpot1991_laptop> !blank | mee
[03:55] <Zinn> Sorry I don't know about blank
[03:55] <rhpot1991_laptop> !blank% | mee
[03:55] <Zinn> mee: If you try to watch tv and are greeted with a blank screen and a return to the menu then please check the permissions on your recording directory.  It should be owned by mythtv:mythtv, have permissions of 775, and not be inside your home directory
[03:57] <mee> where is the recording direcrtory?
[04:01] <mee> rhpot1991_laptop, where is the recording directory
[04:04] <mee> can anyone help me please
[04:05] <foxbuntu> mee, its where ever you setup your storage group to reside, the default is /var/lib/mythtv/recordings/
[04:06] <tgm4883_laptop> mee, did you get the firmware for that card?
[04:06] <mee> no
[04:07] <tgm4883_laptop> thats probably your problem
[04:07] <tgm4883_laptop> were you able to scan for channels?
[04:08] <mee> http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Hauppauge_WinTV_HVR-950
[04:08] <mee> no
[04:09] <mee> im confused
[04:09] <tgm4883_laptop> yea follow those directions
[04:12] <mee> tgm4883_laptop, i dont understand those directions
[04:13] <tgm4883_laptop> what part?
[04:13] <tgm4883_laptop> ]
[04:13] <tgm4883_laptop> download the firmware first: wget http://www.steventoth.net/linux/xc5000/HVR-12x0-14x0-17x0_1_25_25271_WHQL.zip
[04:13] <tgm4883_laptop> Extract the file hcw85bda.sys from the zip into the current dir: unzip -j HVR-12x0-14x0-17x0_1_25_25271_WHQL.zip Driver85/hcw85bda.sys
[04:13] <tgm4883_laptop> Copy the resulting firmware file into /lib/firmware: cp xc3028-v27.fw /lib/firmware
[04:14] <tgm4883_laptop> actually, i missed this step Next, go into the v4l/linux/Documentation/video4linux directory, there will be a file called extract_xc3028.pl Copy this file into the directory where you originally placed hcw85bda.sys. Run the file with the command: ./extract_xc3028.pl
[04:15] <mee> what?????  Extract the file hcw85bda.sys from the zip into the current dir: unzip -j HVR-12x0-14x0-17x0_1_25_25271_WHQL.zip Driver85/hcw85bda.sys
[04:16] <tgm4883_laptop> did you download the file?
[04:16] <mee> yes sir
[04:16] <tgm4883_laptop> ok, then open a terminal and do
[04:16] <tgm4883_laptop> \unzip -j HVR-12x0-14x0-17x0_1_25_25271_WHQL.zip Driver85/hcw85bda.sys
[04:16] <tgm4883_laptop> unzip -j HVR-12x0-14x0-17x0_1_25_25271_WHQL.zip Driver85/hcw85bda.sys
[04:16] <mee> which one
[04:17] <tgm4883_laptop> the second one
[04:17] <tgm4883_laptop> just like the directions say
[04:17] <mee> mee@mee-desktop:~$ unzip -j HVR-12x0-14x0-17x0_1_25_25271_WHQL.zip Driver85/hcw85bda.sys
[04:17] <mee> unzip:  cannot find or open HVR-12x0-14x0-17x0_1_25_25271_WHQL.zip, HVR-12x0-14x0-17x0_1_25_25271_WHQL.zip.zip or HVR-12x0-14x0-17x0_1_25_25271_WHQL.zip.ZIP.
[04:17] <mee> mee@mee-desktop:~$
[04:17] <tgm4883_laptop> where did you download the file to?
[04:17] <mee> desktop
[04:18] <tgm4883_laptop> ok
[04:18] <tgm4883_laptop> cd Desktop
[04:18] <tgm4883_laptop> then run the command
[04:18] <mee> mee@mee-desktop:~$ cd desktop
[04:18] <mee> bash: cd: desktop: No such file or directory
[04:18] <mee> mee@mee-desktop:~$
[04:19] <tgm4883_laptop> capitol D
[04:19] <tgm4883_laptop> it's case sensitive
[04:20] <mee> ok
[04:20] <mee> im done
[04:20] <mee> now try it?
[04:20] <tgm4883_laptop> yea
[04:21] <mee> no
[04:21] <mee> no its not working
[04:21] <tgm4883_laptop> ok
[04:21] <tgm4883_laptop> error?
[04:21] <mee> blank
[04:21] <tgm4883_laptop> what do you mean blank?
[04:21] <mee> then returns to the main screen in a half of a second
[04:22] <tgm4883_laptop> sec
[04:22] <tgm4883_laptop> do this
[04:22] <tgm4883_laptop> cd ~/
[04:23] <tgm4883_laptop> wget http://www.steventoth.net/linux/xc5000/HVR-12x0-14x0-17x0_1_25_25271_WHQL.zip
[04:23] <tgm4883_laptop> unzip -j HVR-12x0-14x0-17x0_1_25_25271_WHQL.zip Driver85/hcw85bda.sys
[04:24] <mee> ok
[04:24] <mee> done
[04:24] <tgm4883_laptop> and it unziped?
[04:25] <mee> i followed your directions so i think so
[04:25] <mee> but the directions say something about a tarball
[04:25] <tgm4883_laptop> it would say something like   inflating: hcw85bda.sys
[04:26] <mee> yes it did say that
[04:26] <tgm4883_laptop> mee, are you running 8.10 or 8.04?
[04:26] <mee> 8.10
[04:26] <tgm4883_laptop> good
[04:26] <tgm4883_laptop> so you don't have to worry about the tarball part
[04:26] <mee> ok
[04:26] <mee> ill try it now
[04:27] <mee> it doesnt work
[04:27] <tgm4883_laptop> what doesn't work?
[04:27] <mee> tv
[04:27] <tgm4883_laptop> not done yet
[04:27] <mee> ok
[04:29] <tgm4883_laptop> ok now do
[04:29] <tgm4883_laptop> cp /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.27-7/Documentation/video4linux/extract_xc3028.pl ~/
[04:29] <mee> ok
[04:30] <mee> i did that
[04:30] <mee> nothing happened
[04:30] <tgm4883_laptop> ok, did it copy
[04:30] <mee> i dont know, how would i know?
[04:30] <tgm4883_laptop> did it say not found?
[04:30] <mee> no
[04:32] <tgm4883_laptop> ok then it should have worked
[04:32] <tgm4883_laptop> now do
[04:32] <tgm4883_laptop> ./extract_xc3028.pl
[04:33] <mee> mee@mee-desktop:~$ ./extract_xc3028.pl
[04:33] <mee> bash: ./extract_xc3028.pl: Permission denied
[04:33] <mee> mee@mee-desktop:~$ sudo ./extract_xc3028.pl
[04:33] <mee> [sudo] password for mee:
[04:33] <mee> sudo: ./extract_xc3028.pl: command not found
[04:33] <mee> mee@mee-desktop:~$
[04:33] <tgm4883_laptop> whats the output of ls /usr/src/
[04:34] <mee> cmee@mee-desktop:~$ ls /usr/src/
[04:34] <mee> linux-headers-2.6.27-7  linux-headers-2.6.27-7-generic  nvidia-177.80  rpm
[04:34] <mee> mee@mee-desktop:~$
[04:34] <tgm4883_laptop> ok
[04:35] <tgm4883_laptop> ls -l ~/extract_xc3028.pl
[04:35] <tgm4883_laptop> whats the output of that
[04:35] <mee> mee@mee-desktop:~$ ls -l ~/extract_xc3028.pl
[04:35] <mee> -rw-r--r-- 1 mee mee 24285 2008-11-21 23:29 /home/mee/extract_xc3028.pl
[04:35] <mee> mee@mee-desktop:~$
[04:36] <tgm4883_laptop> strange
[04:36] <tgm4883_laptop> ./extract_xc3028.pl
[04:36] <tgm4883_laptop> that should have worked
[04:36] <MythbuntuGuest14> i am trying to edit my fstab and it is telling me i do not have the permissions needed, can anyone help me
[04:37] <tgm4883_laptop> MythbuntuGuest14, what are you using to edit it?
[04:37] <tgm4883_laptop> mee, ah, do chmod +x extract_xc3028.pl
[04:37] <tgm4883_laptop> then try ./extract_xc3028.pl
[04:38] <MythbuntuGuest14> gedit
[04:38] <mee> mee@mee-desktop:~$ ./extract_xc3028.pl
[04:38] <mee> Firmwares generated.
[04:38] <mee> mee@mee-desktop:~$
[04:39] <tgm4883_laptop> MythbuntuGuest14, open a terminal and do "gksudo gedit /etc/fstab"
[04:39] <tgm4883_laptop> mee, great, now do
[04:39] <tgm4883_laptop> cp xc3028-v27.fw /lib/firmware
[04:39] <tgm4883_laptop> mee, you will probably have to use sudo on that
[04:39] <mee> mee@mee-desktop:~$ sudo cp xc3028-v27.fw /lib/firmware
[04:39] <mee> mee@mee-desktop:~$
[04:40] <tgm4883_laptop> mee, looks like it worked
[04:40] <mee> ok
[04:40] <tgm4883_laptop> you should be able to just reboot and it should work after you scan for channels and do mythtv-setup stuff
[04:40] <mee> ok ill try. will you be tha here
[04:41] <tgm4883_laptop> i'm playing gears of war 2, but I should be around
[04:41] <tgm4883_laptop> or you can bug foxbuntu ;)
[04:41] <mee> ok
[04:42] <MythbuntuGuest14> laptop, got any ideas of why i cannot edit my fstab now?
[04:42] <foxbuntu> tgm4883_laptop, no bugging foxbuntu tonight, I am busy with stupid web junk again
[04:42] <tgm4883_laptop> MythbuntuGuest14, did you do what I said?
 MythbuntuGuest14, open a terminal and do "gksudo gedit /etc/fstab"
[04:42] <MythbuntuGuest14> i just saw that i am going to try it
[04:42] <tgm4883_laptop> foxbuntu, ok, i'll field his questions then
[04:42] <tgm4883_laptop> I do have about the same hardware
[04:43] <mee> ok how do i scan for channels, it did the  blank screen agian
[04:43] <tgm4883_laptop> mee, you have to go though mythtv-setup and run the channel scanner
[04:43] <mee> ok
[04:43] <mee> wheree is that
[04:44] <tgm4883_laptop> mee, in a terminal, type mythtv-setup
[04:44] <MythbuntuGuest14> that worked, why do i have to do that now, i have edited it before without gksudo
[04:44] <tgm4883_laptop> MythbuntuGuest14, you have to have root privledges to edit system files
[04:45] <tgm4883_laptop> so you got them before somehow
[04:45] <MythbuntuGuest14> cool...one more question i just reinstalled and now my portable drive will not show up on the desktop
[04:49] <tgm4883_laptop> MythbuntuGuest14, does it show up in your file manager?
[04:50] <mee> tgm4883_laptop, how do i scan for channels?
[04:50] <mee> foxbuntu are you there??
[04:50] <tgm4883_laptop> mee, it's like step 4
[04:50] <foxbuntu> mee, sorry I can't provide help tonight
[04:51] <mee> step 4 in what
[04:51] <mee> ok
[04:51] <tgm4883_laptop> mythtv-setup
[04:52] <mee> its not working
[04:52] <mee> :(
[04:52] <mee> its grayed out
[04:52] <MythbuntuGuest14> laptop i don't see it in file manager
[04:54] <tgm4883_laptop> mee, you are going to have to refer to http://www.mythbuntu.org/documentation/mythbuntu_8.10_installation.pdf
[04:54] <mee> can you help me
[04:55] <tgm4883_laptop> mee, i'm not paid support, I can assist you and guide you along the way, but ultimatly you will have to want to do this
[04:55] <mee> i do want to do this
[04:55] <mee> a lot
[04:55] <tgm4883_laptop> good
[04:56] <mee> can you please help me
[04:56] <tgm4883_laptop> I am helping you
[04:56] <mee> the channel scanner is grayed out
[04:56] <tgm4883_laptop> Did you do step 1?
[04:56] <tgm4883_laptop> note that my answers will come slow
[05:11] <mee> tgm4883_laptop, do i have to do step 6?
[05:11] <mee> tgm4883_laptop, does mythbuntu allow you to watch tv in a window?
[05:14] <tgm4883_laptop> mee, you can put mythtv in a window if you like
[05:14] <tgm4883_laptop> it's a setting under settings > appearance in the frontend
[05:14] <mee> thanks
[05:15] <mee> do you have to do step 6
[05:15] <tgm4883_laptop> yea
[05:15] <hads> I guess that's why it's a step :)
[05:15] <tgm4883_laptop> yep
[05:17] <mee> the channel scanner should work before i do step 6 shouldnt it?
[05:17] <tgm4883_laptop> yes
[05:18] <mee> hmmm what is the problem here
[05:18]  * hads pulls out his crystal ball
[05:19] <tgm4883_laptop> what type of card did you set it up as in step 1?  DVB?
[05:20]  * tgm4883_laptop has to run to the store real quick
[05:20] <mee> it says  HVR
[05:20] <mee> hads are you there
[05:21] <mee> anyone?
[05:22] <hads> Not really, cooking.
[05:23] <mee> hads how do i get this thing to recognize my usb
[05:23] <mee> my usb tv adapter
[06:30] <iuaudio> so what's happened to weekly builds for intrepid?
[12:53] <safcsat> Afternoon
[12:53] <safcsat> dont suppose anyone has a recent guide for setting up mythbuntu with vdr 1.71 and getting dvb-s2 working?
[12:54] <safcsat> sick of crapy windows and mediaportal so gonna give mythbuntu a bash :)
[13:33] <safcsat> hey Penfold - dont suppose u can point me in direction of an uptodate guide for getting vdr 1.71 dvb-s2 etc working on mythbuntu?
[13:40] <Penfold> in one, I can't :) sorry :) my install is a WinTB150
[13:41] <safcsat> no worries thanks anyway :)
[14:11] <laga> now there was someone who totally missed the point :)
[15:11] <wise_tamas> re all! I've just started using Mythbuntu 8.10( backend+frontend on a desktop, frontend only on a notebook ), and I'm bumped with settings and video windows... can anyone help me out? (more info on my system setup to come if wanted)
[15:18] <bobbob1016> How can I get mythbuntu to talk to my receiver?  I have a pioneer vsx-01txh.  It has USB but for ipod connectivity.  It has a com-port (9pin I think), anyone know how to get this working?
[15:36] <laga> bobbob1016: ask pioneer?
[15:37] <bobbob1016> laga, Ok, I wasn't sure if there was mythtv thing to do it.
[15:38] <laga> bobbob1016: the commands are most likely vendor specific. i'd find out what commands are available and then go from there, eg write a script
[20:32] <Dennis_> Hello , when i start watch tv the picture freeze , sound is ok?
[20:52] <LyosNorezel> quiet today
[23:22] <MythbuntuGuest82> Hey guys, how do I delay the loading of the backend?  I did it before, but had to reformat and install and I can't remember how to do it.  Seems like I changed it from S20 to S99, but I don't remember what folder.
[23:23] <MythbuntuGuest82> I also need to get more volume out of Myth.  Alexis is turned up all the way and the volume is 100%, but it's still very quiet.  Again, I did this before, but I can't remember how I did it.
[23:32] <Tooncis> I mean alsamixer
[23:44] <LonEagle> there's a volume control in the setup in mythfrontend
[23:45] <LonEagle> you can max that one out too
[23:56] <Tooncis> I'll check...
[23:58] <ajhtwolf> hey i tried to setup my mythfrontend to connect to a remote backend and now mythfronent wont even start