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| Menacemonster | Hey | 00:29 |
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| Menacemonster | Can anyone help me with an install ? | 00:29 |
| Menacemonster | i'm kinda a newb lol | 00:30 |
| Menacemonster | is anyone here ? | 00:31 |
| Menacemonster | hi is anyone here ? | 00:33 |
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| mooch | Enter text here...hello has anyone seen vidd? | 01:18 |
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| privet_ | in the networkmanager applet: how do I make it see my mobile phone as "broadband connection"? | 03:52 |
| privet_ | *mobile broadband | 03:52 |
| nintendork32 | what version of xubutnu do you recommend | 06:06 |
| nintendork32 | i heard ibex isnt that stable | 06:06 |
| nintendork32 | intrepid ibex* | 06:06 |
| nintendork32 | i also need help chosing which version | 06:10 |
| nintendork32 | choosing | 06:11 |
| nintendork32 | its a athlon | 06:11 |
| nintendork32 | i want 64-bit i believe | 06:11 |
| nintendork32 | i need help | 07:05 |
| nintendork32 | on the alternate installation cd is it the cd ONLY that requires 64MB of ram or the install afterwards too? | 07:06 |
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| nat2610 | Hey, I lost my panels and don't know how to get them back on xfce ... I went into xfce setting manager -> panel but nothing appear is it normal ? | 17:06 |
| vidd | nat2610, open a terminal and type xfce4-panels | 17:06 |
| vidd | xfce4-panel (no trailing "s") | 17:07 |
| nat2610 | vidd, cool it's back | 17:08 |
| nat2610 | do I have to do something else now ? or at the next boot it will be still there ? | 17:08 |
| vidd | make sure you save your session when you exit | 17:09 |
| vidd | or, remove all your saved sessions =] | 17:09 |
| * vidd hates the "save session" being auto selected | 17:09 | |
| nat2610 | where do you save your session | 17:10 |
| nat2610 | ? | 17:10 |
| * vidd doesnt | 17:10 | |
| nat2610 | because I just closed the term even if I run xfce4-panel & it still close the process if I close the termnial | 17:10 |
| dcolish | nat2610: run it like this: xfce4-panel > /dev/null 2>&1 & | 17:11 |
| nat2610 | dcolish, sweet | 17:12 |
| nat2610 | cool it's working well now ... I restarted ... and the panel where still their thanks for your help | 17:14 |
| nat2610 | s/their/there | 17:14 |
| dcolish | not a problem | 17:15 |
| nintendork32 | is there a i636 version of ubuntu? | 17:52 |
| nintendork32 | xubuntu* | 17:52 |
| dcolish | i636 is i386 | 18:06 |
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| nintendork32 | ok, i am trying to install xubuntu on a system, GRUB or LILO won't install, should i select the option continue without bootloader? | 19:29 |
| vidd | nintendork32, no | 19:31 |
| vidd | why does it not install grub? | 19:31 |
| TheSheep | .oO( antivirus protection of boot sector in BIOS? ) | 19:31 |
| nintendork32 | vidd: it says there is an error | 19:32 |
| vidd | what does the error say? | 19:32 |
| nintendork32 | idk | 19:32 |
| nintendork32 | brb let me see | 19:32 |
| nintendork32 | okay, it says GRUB could not install to /target/, without the GRUB bootloader the system will not boot | 19:34 |
| nintendork32 | vidd:^^ | 19:35 |
| nintendork32 | vidd LILO has error code -1 | 19:36 |
| vidd | nintendork32, how much hd space ya got? and what type of installer are you using?? | 19:36 |
| nintendork32 | vidd: i think maybe 20GB and using alternate | 19:36 |
| vidd | did you manually configure partitions, use the entire drive, or make room? | 19:37 |
| nintendork32 | i did the "use entire disk space" | 19:37 |
| vidd | ok...how much room was on that disk space? | 19:38 |
| l_r | Questio for experts: do you know whether xUbuntu, once installed on hardisk, preserves the automatic hardware configuration? that is, does the livecd behaviour remain unchanged after it's installed on hd? | 19:38 |
| nintendork32 | vidd: 20GB | 19:38 |
| nintendork32 | ill also ask on #grub | 19:39 |
| vidd | l_r, no | 19:39 |
| vidd | l_r, you want the alt cd if you need to pass configurations to your kernel | 19:39 |
| vidd | nintendork32, go back to the partitions.... | 19:39 |
| vidd | i want to know what your partition table looks like | 19:40 |
| nintendork32 | let me ask on grub first | 19:40 |
| nintendork32 | brb | 19:40 |
| vidd | fine...i wont help | 19:41 |
| nintendork32 | ok what tables should i have | 19:41 |
| vidd | they wont be able to either | 19:41 |
| nintendork32 | O..o | 19:41 |
| nintendork32 | come on,,,, | 19:41 |
| vidd | the issue is a "cant write" error...noty a grub configuration error | 19:41 |
| nintendork32 | ok what should i do? | 19:41 |
| nintendork32 | what should the table look like? | 19:42 |
| vidd | tell it to not continue so you get knocked into the menu | 19:42 |
| nintendork32 | ok im already there | 19:42 |
| vidd | go to the "partitioning" section | 19:42 |
| nintendork32 | ok | 19:42 |
| vidd | click the "manual" | 19:42 |
| nintendork32 | ok | 19:43 |
| vidd | tell me waht partitions are here and how big they are | 19:43 |
| nintendork32 | ok brb | 19:43 |
| nintendork32 | ok it has sda1 as ext3 | 19:45 |
| nintendork32 | it has sda2 as swap | 19:45 |
| nintendork32 | oh sda1 is logical | 19:45 |
| * vidd notices that no sizes were mentiond] | 19:45 | |
| nintendork32 | oh | 19:45 |
| nintendork32 | brb | 19:45 |
| nintendork32 | sda1 is 19.7GB | 19:46 |
| vidd | does it have the -b on that line? | 19:47 |
| nintendork32 | uhm how would it look? | 19:47 |
| nintendork32 | 19.7GB -b? | 19:47 |
| vidd | something like that....i dont have that screen up myself | 19:48 |
| nintendork32 | 19.7GB B F ext3 | 19:49 |
| nintendork32 | thats how it looks | 19:49 |
| vidd | so it does have the -b option | 19:49 |
| vidd | good | 19:49 |
| vidd | how large is swap? | 19:49 |
| nintendork32 | the rest of 20AGB | 19:49 |
| nintendork32 | 20GB* | 19:49 |
| nintendork32 | which is about 325GB | 19:50 |
| nintendork32 | 325MB* | 19:50 |
| vidd | HOW LARGE IS SWAP according to the partitioner? | 19:50 |
| vidd | this isnt rocket science! | 19:50 |
| nintendork32 | about 325MB brb let me see the exact | 19:50 |
| nintendork32 | 370.1MB | 19:51 |
| vidd | what kind of system are you installing on? (hp, compaq, emachine, gateway) and how old is the bios? | 19:52 |
| nintendork32 | a old windows ME compaq | 19:52 |
| vidd | ok..... | 19:52 |
| nintendork32 | with 125MB of ram | 19:52 |
| vidd | you have a setting in the bios for "antivirus" | 19:52 |
| vidd | you need to disable it | 19:53 |
| nintendork32 | idk how? | 19:53 |
| vidd | basically, it is protecting the Master Boot Record | 19:53 |
| nintendork32 | so go to the setup? | 19:53 |
| vidd | you restart the machine and enter the bios | 19:53 |
| nintendork32 | ok | 19:53 |
| vidd | find the setting in there that says something along the line of "protect MBR" or "prevent overwriting" or some such stuff | 19:54 |
| vidd | 'round the time of Win ME was when boot-sector viruses were prevelant | 19:55 |
| vidd | compaq, dell, and gateway added "dont remove M$" code into the bioses of most of thier machines | 19:55 |
| nintendork32 | ok | 19:56 |
| vidd | unfortunantly, you will have to re-do your install | 19:56 |
| vidd | you *MIGHT* be able to get back to the install menu and skip ahead to the "install bootloader" section....but dont hold your breath =] | 19:57 |
| nintendork32 | i cant find the section | 19:58 |
| nintendork32 | what category would it be? | 19:59 |
| nintendork32 | security just has something to set up a password | 19:59 |
| openstep | hi | 19:59 |
| nintendork32 | hi opensteb | 19:59 |
| nintendork32 | openstep* | 19:59 |
| nintendork32 | vidd: any ideas? | 19:59 |
| openstep | are you devs here? | 20:00 |
| openstep | I would need some help with xfce | 20:00 |
| nintendork32 | i can code some, but this isnt the channel for it | 20:00 |
| vidd | openstep, what help? | 20:00 |
| openstep | Well I am about to deploy an LTSP setup in a school and would like to | 20:01 |
| openstep | use XFCE as desktop. | 20:01 |
| openstep | What I would like to do is to make a unified setup for all users, so | 20:01 |
| openstep | when they mess it up at the next login they get it back the default | 20:01 |
| openstep | one. | 20:01 |
| openstep | I looked around the | 20:01 |
| openstep | http://www.xfce.org/documentation/4.2/manuals/xfce4-session#xfsm-kiosk-mode, | 20:01 |
| openstep | but the is not enough. | 20:01 |
| vidd | nintendork32, i would recomend googling the bios of the system for the settings.....there are so many | 20:01 |
| nintendork32 | my computer model? | 20:01 |
| vidd | nintendork32, yes | 20:01 |
| vidd | openstep, the entire point of a ltsp set-up is so that your desktop does NOT get overwritten on logout | 20:03 |
| * nintendork32 looks for "presario" | 20:03 | |
| vidd | nintendork32, presario-what? | 20:03 |
| nintendork32 | speacial edition, my model | 20:03 |
| openstep | I am aware of it | 20:04 |
| openstep | but still that is what I need | 20:04 |
| openstep | like a kiosk | 20:05 |
| vidd | openstep, i would not be the one to ask =[ | 20:05 |
| openstep | thanks :) | 20:08 |
| openstep | see you | 20:08 |
| * nintendork32 cant find anything | 20:09 | |
| vidd | nintendork32, what does it say the bios is? | 20:09 |
| vidd | or, what model is your compaq? | 20:10 |
| nintendork32 | it just has the compaq logo and i started pressing all of the f4's then the setup came up\ | 20:10 |
| nintendork32 | presario speacial edition | 20:10 |
| vidd | there should be a modle number..... | 20:11 |
| vidd | is this a laptop or a desktop? | 20:11 |
| nintendork32 | or you mean techy name lik Q-6G4J7H6 | 20:11 |
| nintendork32 | desktop | 20:11 |
| vidd | yeah...the modle # | 20:11 |
| nintendork32 | ok | 20:11 |
| nintendork32 | brb | 20:11 |
| nintendork32 | 470004-759 US | 20:13 |
| nintendork32 | 7000 series | 20:14 |
| vidd | please bare with me....... | 20:15 |
| nintendork32 | ? | 20:17 |
| nintendork32 | what? | 20:17 |
| vidd | ok....what bios options do you have? | 20:17 |
| * nintendork32 sighs | 20:17 | |
| nintendork32 | idk | 20:17 |
| nintendork32 | this is getting tiring | 20:17 |
| nintendork32 | that computer is in the basement, this one is upstairs.... | 20:17 |
| * nintendork32 runs down the stairs | 20:18 | |
| vidd | why not have them side-by-side? | 20:18 |
| nintendork32 | i have Main, storage, security, advanced | 20:19 |
| nintendork32 | security just has passwords though | 20:19 |
| nintendork32 | asks to set one | 20:19 |
| vidd | advanced.... | 20:19 |
| nintendork32 | ok | 20:20 |
| nintendork32 | pci, bus, device stuff | 20:22 |
| nintendork32 | and this safe boot and power thing | 20:22 |
| vidd | safe boot needs to be off | 20:22 |
| nintendork32 | ok | 20:22 |
| nintendork32 | actually that says "Power on self test" | 20:24 |
| nintendork32 | forgot them | 20:24 |
| nintendork32 | and some power loss thing | 20:24 |
| vidd | no...thats not is | 20:25 |
| nintendork32 | so what else should i choose? | 20:26 |
| vidd | one of these pages has something about "boot security" or "hard drive security" or "antivirus" or something like that | 20:27 |
| vidd | i havent had one of these systems in forever...so i dont know exactly where in the bios it is, or what the exact verbage is | 20:30 |
| vidd | but there is some kind of hard drive "security" which wont let anything write to the boot secter....which is where grub needs to be | 20:31 |
| nintendork32 | there isnt ANYTHING about it | 20:33 |
| nintendork32 | i looked | 20:34 |
| nintendork32 | think i should try GRUB again? | 20:34 |
| vidd | you would need to redo the entire install again | 20:35 |
| vidd | try doing the cli-only install | 20:35 |
| vidd | (only because its faster) | 20:35 |
| vidd | you can sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop once it successfully boots | 20:36 |
| nintendork32 | screw it | 20:37 |
| nintendork32 | i give up | 20:37 |
| vidd | nintendork32, the issue is one of 2 things..... | 20:38 |
| nintendork32 | what? | 20:38 |
| vidd | based on the age of the machine, i would suspect that the bios has some "write protect" setting..... | 20:38 |
| vidd | the other is a damaged or full HD | 20:38 |
| nintendork32 | i bet damage | 20:39 |
| vidd | unfortunantly, i cant find the security setting | 20:39 |
| nintendork32 | hard drive has been messed up | 20:39 |
| vidd | nintendork32, did windows work? | 20:39 |
| nintendork32 | got the bsod | 20:39 |
| nintendork32 | was on the internet with NOTHING attached | 20:39 |
| vidd | hrm...then perhaps, you should low-lvl format it | 20:39 |
| nintendork32 | before | 20:40 |
| nintendork32 | no wifi card even | 20:40 |
| nintendork32 | its all messed up | 20:40 |
| nintendork32 | ill probably grab a new hdd | 20:40 |
| vidd | if a new HDD installs without issue, then it was a bad hd.... | 20:41 |
| vidd | what you can try.... | 20:41 |
| vidd | set up the partitioning as follows: | 20:41 |
| vidd | delete are partitions | 20:42 |
| nintendork32 | nah | 20:42 |
| nintendork32 | i give up | 20:42 |
| Mark__1 | I want a xinitrc file | 20:51 |
| Mark__1 | Anyone know where I can find one I haven't hacked to pieces? | 20:52 |
| Mark__1 | And DON'T accuse me of flooding or spamming | 20:53 |
| Mark__1 | I'm just asking a simple question | 20:53 |
| Mark__1 | #>:o | 20:54 |
| vidd | Mark__1, the easiest way to get a "fresh" on is to simply delete the one you have....a new once should get written for you when you log in again | 20:54 |
| Mark__1 | The one in /etc/etc and the one in my home folder? | 20:55 |
| vidd | Mark__1, you hacked up the one in /etc? | 20:55 |
| Mark__1 | Yeah :( | 20:55 |
| Mark__1 | I was trying to get lxde to run from slim :( | 20:55 |
| vidd | ok...that makes it slightly more difficult.... | 20:55 |
| Mark__1 | Oh dear :( | 20:56 |
| vidd | only slightly....=] | 20:56 |
| Mark__1 | Phew | 20:56 |
| vidd | first, remove both files..... | 20:56 |
| Mark__1 | Okay. Lemme do that now | 20:56 |
| vidd | then kill slim | 20:56 |
| vidd | then sudo apt-get remove --purge slim && sudo apt-get install slim | 20:57 |
| vidd | however....i personally recommend just using gdm with lxde | 20:57 |
| vidd | if you autoremove --purge xorg, then you can apt-get install lxde, reboot, and enjoy | 20:59 |
| vidd | a severly hacked-down lxde is in the default repos | 20:59 |
| Mark__1 | I need to log out of the session first, don't I ;) | 20:59 |
| vidd | you will....but let me give you all the info you need first | 21:00 |
| Mark__1 | Isn't xorg the display manager? | 21:00 |
| Mark__1 | K | 21:00 |
| vidd | will you be trashing all your xorg and doing the default *buntu lxde? | 21:00 |
| vidd | no...xorg is what the manager runs on | 21:00 |
| Mark__1 | I'd like to keep everything I have but be able to log into an lxde session with slim | 21:01 |
| vidd | =] its a level or two below the manager | 21:01 |
| Mark__1 | GDM just seems a bit heavy for it | 21:01 |
| vidd | then just log out, kill slim, and from terminal run "sudo apt-get remove --purge slim && sudo apt-get install slim" | 21:02 |
| Mark__1 | K | 21:02 |
| vidd | *from tty* | 21:02 |
| Mark__1 | See you later | 21:02 |
| vidd | please keep one thing in mind.... | 21:02 |
| Mark__1 | Yes? | 21:02 |
| vidd | you MUST have HAL installed in order for the keyboard and mouse to work | 21:03 |
| Mark__1 | I do | 21:03 |
| vidd | also, you will need to edit your slim.conf file | 21:03 |
| Mark__1 | Can we talk about that when I get back? | 21:03 |
| vidd | by defualt, alot of your PATH's are missing | 21:04 |
| vidd | i want to make sure you GET back =] | 21:04 |
| Mark__1 | :) | 21:04 |
| Mark__1 | So what do I need to put in slim.conf? | 21:04 |
| vidd | we can discuss that later..... | 21:04 |
| vidd | but for now..... | 21:05 |
| vidd | you will want to open stuff via the terminal.... | 21:05 |
| Mark__1 | Yeah | 21:05 |
| Mark__1 | I hope the terminal remembers all this | 21:05 |
| vidd | so this way, you will get "/sbin/blah, blah, blah, is not in your PATH.....instead of the app just not opening | 21:05 |
| vidd | if you get something like that, then add the full path (like /sbin/xchat) | 21:06 |
| vidd | to launch the app | 21:06 |
| vidd | =] | 21:07 |
| Mark__1 | Okay | 21:07 |
| vidd | simple stuff..... | 21:07 |
| vidd | see ya on the flip-side | 21:07 |
| vidd | =] | 21:07 |
| Mark__1 | Bye for now | 21:07 |
| R1cochet | is there a way to create my own "user interface theme"? | 21:09 |
| Mark__1 | I just remembered. I'm not using slim right now so I don't need to log out | 21:12 |
| Mark__1 | Drat. The logs end at 9:01pm | 21:15 |
| Mark__1 | Oh well. Here goes | 21:19 |
| R1cochet | is there a way to create my own "user interface" theme? | 21:36 |
| vidd | R1cochet, yes...there is | 21:36 |
| R1cochet | thank you vidd | 21:43 |
| R1cochet | how would i go about it? | 21:43 |
| vidd | no idea | 21:43 |
| R1cochet | £ãugh¡ñg Òut £öuÐ cool thank you | 21:43 |
| vidd | but in linux EVERYTHING is customizable | 21:44 |
| R1cochet | and stable :) | 21:45 |
| medfly | hey! | 22:31 |
| medfly | i have xubuntu 8.04 on my computer... i'm missing /sbin/init so it boots me into busybox... can anyone be kind and tel me what that file should contain so i will add that (somehow) ? | 22:31 |
| TheSheep | medfly: it boots into busybox because it fails to mount your hard disk as / | 22:33 |
| medfly | oh... | 22:33 |
| TheSheep | medfly: run 'mount' to see that it's not mounted | 22:33 |
| TheSheep | medfly: run 'dmesg' to see why | 22:33 |
| medfly | okay.. hmm... | 22:34 |
| medfly | well, i don't see anything special on dmegs, but it its not mounted. | 22:35 |
| TheSheep | is there anything special about this install? | 22:41 |
| TheSheep | did you for example install it on a different box, and replace the hdd? | 22:41 |
| medfly | well, it worked before | 22:41 |
| medfly | and... i uninstalled a bunch of stuff, that may have been a bad idea to uninstall... | 22:41 |
| TheSheep | before what exactly? | 22:41 |
| TheSheep | ah | 22:42 |
| medfly | a few hours later it had some trouble, so i restarted it, and it just went to busybox. | 22:42 |
| TheSheep | you can try pressing esc at boot and trying an older kernel | 22:42 |
| medfly | oh, i did try that, but it had the same outcome. | 22:42 |
| medfly | it does say something about /sbin/init. i told it not to be quiet and tell me about its troubles ;) | 22:43 |
| TheSheep | then I guess you have to boot it from cd, mount your / partition, chroot into it and install the missing package | 22:43 |
| medfly | oh... | 22:43 |
| TheSheep | wait | 22:44 |
| TheSheep | maybe you will be able to just mount / | 22:44 |
| TheSheep | from busybox | 22:44 |
| medfly | oh... well, i tried, but i only have console on /dev | 22:45 |
| medfly | haha. i got what i thought is an empty cd to burn onto, and it has xubuntu on it! | 22:46 |
| * medfly tries that :) | 22:46 | |
| medfly | that was a pleasant surprise, but it didn't work. | 22:55 |
| medfly | getting the package | 22:55 |
| medfly | i am going to just try to install it again :) | 22:56 |
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| retour | How to enter mode where I can manually enter type of monitor and max refresh rate etc? | 23:35 |
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