[00:01] <appletree> hi2all
[00:03] <zankyw> hi
[00:07] <naught101> what version of kde does jaunty have at the moment?
[00:08] <naught101> and will 4.2 betas be backported to ibex?
[00:09] <patch_> it has 4.1 iirc
[00:09] <appletree> i have a question.i try to install ubuntu on a thincliend.the processor is an geode CS5530A .if i try to install a version over 4.10 it stops by an error.i thing in the newer versions of ubuntu are not kernel lower then the 686 ,but i need for this cpu an kernel for 586.did i must upgrade up to 6.10???? ore is ther an other way to say him where he find the 586 kernel.i must do it in the installation process. sorry for my bad english :-)
[00:09] <naught101> packages says 4.1.73. I am happy!
[00:10] <naught101> anyone here using jaunty yet?
[00:10] <patch_> nope... too unstable still..  im still gettin used to 8.10
[00:11] <naught101> yeah
[00:13] <patch_> im still trying to figure out where to change to panel so its on the top... instead of bottom so i can put a dock
[00:28] <dr_willis> unlock the panel with the cashew on the right hand side - i belive first
[00:28] <dr_willis> then youc an move it
[00:29] <patch_> whats a cashew? lol
[00:31] <dr_willis> a nut. :)
[00:31] <dr_willis> see a little curved circle thang?
[00:31] <dr_willis> gotta love kde4 and the inoovative names...
[00:31] <dr_willis> h They should of used all the terms from BioShock.
[00:31] <dr_willis> Plasmids, Eve, Adam, slicers...
[00:31] <dr_willis> :)
[00:32] <patch_> well it didnt work.. i jus caused plasmoid to crash lol
[00:33] <dr_willis> Now ya know why i am using Gnome....
[00:33] <dr_willis> :P
[00:33] <patch_> yeah.. i usually do! i figured this looked nice... ugh.. im used to gnome.. i think im going to install gnome and uninstall kde
[00:34] <dr_willis> i just install both
[00:34] <patch_> yeah... but whats the point in having KDE ?
[00:34] <patch_> if u use gnome?
[00:35] <dr_willis> i use some of the apps from kde
[00:35] <patch_> u just need the libs then..not the whole desktop
[00:35] <dr_willis> I dont worry about it.
[00:35] <dr_willis> once ya get the libs.. how much is the rest really. :)
[00:36] <patch_> well.. depends on which kde apps u use..
[00:36] <patch_> if u dont use a lot (like me) its about a gig or so...
[00:36] <TJ12> how do i ssh into a server?
[00:36] <TJ12> in ubuntu
[00:37] <patch_> sshtunnel
[00:37] <patch_> lol
[00:37] <TJ12> in terminal?
[00:37] <dr_willis> i just use the ssh command...
[00:37] <dr_willis> logical eh. :)
[00:37] <patch_> well idk.. i thought it was a program
[00:37] <patch_> oh wait..that was to have someone ssh tunnel INTO my server..nevermind
[00:38] <TJ12> hrm
[00:38] <TJ12> cant find ssh tunnel
[00:39] <patch_> try man ssh
[00:39] <patch_> get the manual pages on it
[00:40] <patch_> it shows something on mine :) so it should on urs
[00:41] <TJ12> im just ttrying to figure out how to ssh into a server
[00:41] <TJ12> like i use putty on windows
[00:42] <patch_> right.. ssh would be what u wanna do... ssh <insert IP addy>
[00:43] <patch_> ignore that
[00:43] <patch_> uhm... theres a program u can use.. i jus dont know what its called atm
[00:45] <Lindows> use ssh
[00:45] <Lindows> it does everything
[00:45] <Lindows> tunneling, whatever
[00:45] <TJ12> tj@tj-laptop:~$ ssh 208.98.44.146:20
[00:45] <TJ12> ssh: 208.98.44.146:20: Name or service not known
[00:45] <TJ12> tj@tj-laptop:~$
[00:47] <Lindows> you used to use putty, what was the info? thats the IP, whats the port?
[00:47] <Lindows> what was the user name as well
[00:48] <cody_> does anyone know about flash player 10 and 9 and why they would be freezing after a couple of seconds?
[00:48] <Lindows> actually
[00:48] <TJ12> 20 is port
[00:48] <Lindows> dont tell me the user name
[00:48] <Lindows> use -l <login name>
[00:48] <Lindows> when connecting
[00:49] <TJ12> tj@tj-laptop:~$ ssh 208.98.44.146 20 -l tjpowell
[00:49] <TJ12> tj@tj-laptop:~$
[00:50] <Lindows> do you normally have to use a vpn first? or if your laptop had putty on it, it would work right now?
[00:50] <TJ12> yea if i had putty i should ssh right in.
[00:51] <Lindows> one sec
[00:52] <Lindows> ssh -l <name> -p 20 208.94.44.146
[00:53] <Lindows> work?
[00:53] <TJ12> it goes to the next line then nothing
[00:53] <TJ12> tj@tj-laptop:~$ ssh -l tjpowell -p 20  208.94.44.146
[00:53] <Lindows> it should give you an option to accept the key
[00:54] <TJ12> nothing yet
[00:54] <dr_willis> Putty is a ssh client last i looked....
[00:54] <dr_willis> or are you saying you need a ssh client for your windows box?
[00:54] <TJ12> no
[00:54] <Lindows> hrm, I just tried it and it worked, and then I ctrl-c when it ask to accept the key
[00:54] <TJ12> one sec
[00:54] <TJ12> hrm
[00:55] <Lindows> yeah, it works, I typed back the wrong IP
[00:55] <Lindows> ssh -l <login> -p 20 208.98.44.146
[00:56] <TJ12> be back in a min
[00:56] <dr_willis> :)
[01:00] <nidfar> just completed fresh install of 8.10.  Attempted to add a few different wireless network programs to use wireless.  Lost Network Manager in the process.  Can not get the Update/Adept/synaptic to reinstall as no network connection of any kind is present now.  Help please
[01:00] <burn_> anyone familiar with wine?
[01:01] <Lindows> burn, yes
[01:01] <dr_willis> !wine
[01:01] <dr_willis> >hic<
[01:02] <Lindows> nidfar, type: less /etc/network/interfaces   what does it say?
[01:03] <legodude_> any ideas why I'm not getting any sound output from flash player to my digital output?
[01:04] <dr_willis> Other sounds work.. just not flash sounds?
[01:04] <legodude_> yeam
[01:04] <legodude_> amarok is fine
[01:05] <legodude_> vlc
[01:05] <legodude_> dragon media player
[01:05] <legodude_> those are about all I have tested
[01:06] <nidfar> Lindows: auto lo iface lo inet loopback
[01:06] <nidfar> Lindows: /etc/network/interfaces (END)
[01:08] <Lindows> okay, type ifconfig , then find the wireless device, then type dhclient <device>
[01:08] <TJ12> ok let me see if it works
[01:08] <Lindows> for instance, if it were eth0, because it was wired ethernet (which it probably isn't)
[01:08] <legodude_> just figured out I'm getting flash audio out of my analog
[01:08] <Lindows> you'd type dhclient eth0
[01:09] <simon__> hello! i have a problem whit my video card! it dosnt poop up in the Hardware list. (problem problyty caused by an update to 4.1
[01:09] <simon__> hello! i have a problem whit my video card! it dosnt poop up in the Hardware list. (problem problyty caused by an update to 4.1
[01:09] <Lindows> I'm not sure if it'll work nidfar because its wirless, but its worth a shot
[01:10] <nidfar> Lindows thanks trying
[01:10] <simon__> hello! i have a problem whit my video card! it dosnt poop up in the Hardware list. (problem problyty caused by an update to 4.1
[01:10] <maxbaldwin> !flood > simon__
[01:11] <simon__> omg just help me
[01:11] <nidfar> lindows one quick question:  will this get a connection back for the ethernet?  cause if I can get that, I can redownload the manager
[01:12] <simon__> omg just help me
[01:12] <simon__> hello! i have a problem whit my video card! it dosnt poop up in the Hardware list. (problem problyty caused by an update to 4.1
[01:12] <legodude_> hey simon__
[01:12] <legodude_> stop flooding
[01:12] <legodude_> it is pretty rude
[01:12] <Lindows> yes
[01:13] <JuJuBee> What's going on with logrotate?  When it runs, it renders my laptop useless and I have to  kill it.
[01:13] <legodude_> and people are much less likely to help you
[01:13] <MrKennie> simon__: please do not repeat your question like that. Be a little more specific too, like what video card you have etc.
[01:13] <simon__> lol nobody helping me
[01:13] <Lindows> dhclient eth0 will get wired ethernet working
[01:13] <legodude_> simon__: act polite, not demanding
[01:13] <Lindows> i guess iwconfig is for wireless devices
[01:13] <simon__> Navida Geforce 8400m gs 256 mb
[01:13] <MrKennie> simon__: people here are volunteers and users, just be patient.
[01:14] <Lindows> simon_ I'm using 8800gt, I had to install beta drivers to get it to work
[01:14] <MrKennie> heh.
[01:14] <TJ12> lindows
[01:14] <MrKennie> I've seen people act worse than that and not get kicked.
[01:14] <TJ12> it worked thanks
[01:15] <Lindows> awesome
[01:16] <TJ12> u use lindows or ubuntu
[01:16] <MrKennie> simon__: and some people here like to flex their muscles
[01:16] <Lindows> kubuntu
[01:16] <simon__> ?
[01:16] <MrKennie> nm
[01:16] <nidfar> lindows I typed that and I got a series of lines
[01:16] <Lindows> simon_ you probably are going to have to install nvidia beta drivers, I had to
[01:16] <simon__> ok where i get them
[01:16] <Lindows> search for 180.08 on google, you can probably find a guide
[01:16] <nidfar> I am not sure if it worked lindows because a few of the lines read Operation Denied
[01:17] <Kovert> dr_willis: why did no one tell me to remove the USB key?
[01:17] <Lindows> sorry, probably need to sudo dhclient eth<number>
[01:17] <Lindows> sudo dhclient eth0
[01:17] <Lindows> or eth1
[01:17] <Lindows> eth2
[01:17] <Lindows> whatever is connected
[01:17] <dr_willis> Kovert,  what usb key?
[01:17] <nidfar> thanks lindows trying
[01:18] <Kovert> dr_willis: the one preventing me from booting
[01:18] <dr_willis> Kovert,  why dident you? :)
[01:18] <dr_willis> I have no issues booting with usb keys in my machines.
[01:18] <Kovert> Dragnslcr: when I tried to boot that was the first device
[01:18] <dr_willis> Yours Must Hate you. :P
[01:19] <Kovert> soeey that was for dr willis
[01:19] <Kovert> dr_willis: after all that
[01:19] <dr_willis> booting from a usb device - correct.. many machines make that boot device be sda, and all otehr devices get shifted down 1 letter
[01:20] <JuJuBee> Anybody know if there is a bug with logrotate?
[01:20] <dr_willis> brb
[01:20] <Kovert> dr_willis: also this is an old machine so the sata machines don't show in the bios
[01:20] <legodude_> JuJuBee: what kind of problems are you having?
[01:20] <JuJuBee> Every day, when I turn my laptop on, logrotate runs and It hangs my latpop so I have to kill the process.
[01:20] <simon__> what is an FTP file
[01:20] <legodude_> ah
[01:21] <nidfar> lindows got connection now just trying to make sure that network manager is back on the system
[01:21] <legodude_> I had something else with logs
[01:21] <nidfar> thanks
[01:21] <Lindows> awesome, np
[01:21] <Kovert> simon__: ftp is a transfer process
[01:21] <Kovert> !ftp
[01:22] <simon__> oh i can't open it whit firefox?
[01:22] <Lindows> you want to download NVIDIA_.....pkg2.run
[01:22] <Lindows> simon_
[01:22] <Kovert> simon__: you can but it is a pain
[01:22] <simon__> ???
[01:22] <Kovert> simon__: apt-get install filezilla
[01:22] <Lindows> make sure its the right one
[01:22] <Lindows> if you are using 32 bit, you want the 32 bit driver
[01:23] <Lindows> 64 bit, 64 bit driver
[01:23] <simon__> ok
[01:23] <Lindows> NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-180.08-pkg2.run
[01:23] <Lindows> for x64
[01:24] <simon__> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[01:24] <simon__> wat in hell is this?
[01:24] <Kovert> simon__: do you have adapt or synaptic open
[01:24] <Kovert> or add sudo to the frount of the command string
[01:24] <simon__> ok
[01:25] <Kovert> wp Dr_willis
[01:25] <Lindows> you cant just run the install
[01:25] <Lindows> you need to reboot into console
[01:25] <Lindows> killall kdm or kilall gdm
[01:25] <Lindows> then sudo sh <package>
[01:25] <simon__> ???
[01:26] <simon__> isn't 4.1 the same that the old one?
[01:26] <Dr_willis> or sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop    to stop gdm nicely
[01:27] <micka> bonsoir les gens!
[01:27] <micka> Ssalut, ca va bien?
[01:27] <legodude_> !fr
[01:27] <simon__> i use console
[01:27] <Kovert> Qui
[01:28] <micka> hi everyone! What's been up?
[01:28] <Kovert> dont understand is that anglas?
[01:28] <Kovert> ok hi micka
[01:28] <simon__> then! when it's done   whats next
[01:29] <simon__> !no
[01:30] <brandan> has anyone tried to play commad and conquer renegade in ubuntu 8.10
[01:30] <simon__> !swamp
[01:30] <simon__> !ubottu
[01:30] <Kovert> !xyzzy
[01:30] <Dr_willis> brandan,  given how old that game is.... :) i would be amazed that anyone in here even rembers it...
[01:31] <simon__> !kick Dr_willis
[01:31] <simon__> omg
[01:31] <Dr_willis> heh
[01:31] <simon__> bad commands!
[01:31] <brandan> It worked in 8.04
[01:31] <brandan> now its just black and white
[01:31] <brandan> :P
[01:31] <Kovert> Dr_willis: how do you correct and anotate the bot?
[01:32] <Dr_willis> Not sure..
[01:32] <Dr_willis> !bot
[01:32] <simon__> !gm
[01:32] <simon__> !en
[01:32] <simon__> !ru
[01:33] <simon__> !eg
[01:33] <simon__> !au
[01:33] <Kovert> !mountaindew
[01:33] <Kovert> juts wondering
[01:33] <simon__> !ki
[01:33] <simon__> !kick
[01:34] <simon__> !ban
[01:34] <simon__> !st
[01:34] <simon__> !am
[01:34] <simon__> !sw
[01:34] <simon__> !sv
[01:34] <simon__> !fi
[01:34] <simon__> !po
[01:34] <puggg> d/led 8.10, burned the image to a CD, tried to use it as a live cd, but I get a f'ed up screen
[01:34] <simon__> !ty
[01:34] <legodude_> simon__: why don't you and ubottu take this private?
[01:35] <simon__> ok
[01:35] <puggg> only on kubuntu am I having this prob, not ubuntu or xubuntu
[01:35] <Kovert> puggg: YOU COULD TRY THE ALT CD
[01:35] <Kovert> sorry caps
[01:35] <puggg> have an nvidia video card
[01:35] <Kovert> puggg: you could force it into vga
[01:35] <puggg> Kov:  How?
[01:36] <puggg> I tried using safe graphics mode
[01:36] <puggg> but the same prob
[01:36] <Kovert> puggg: there are cheet codes when you boot
[01:36] <Kovert> brb
[01:36] <puggg> Kovert:  I think the Alt CD doesn't have Live Cd capability
[01:37] <legodude_> puggg: what nvidia card?
[01:37] <puggg> 5700ve
[01:37] <simon__> msg to all of you!
[01:37] <simon__> !virus
[01:37] <simon__> do i need this?
[01:38] <legodude_> puggg: that may be your problem, you might want to be sure the nvidia driver supports it
[01:39] <puggg> weird enuf, ub and xub doesn't have this prob, KDE 4.1.x in opensuse 11.1b5 runs fine
[01:39] <puggg> same vid card
[01:39] <legodude_> I believe that the newest beta does not support 5000 series
[01:39] <simon__> i just want to be sure thet the hardware work's in 4.1
[01:39] <legodude_> strange
[01:39] <simon__> what havnt ub wirless
[01:40] <simon__> ok madwifi dosn't support?
[01:40] <Kovert> back
[01:43] <Kovert> why when i click activte on hardware drivers does nothing happen
[01:43] <brandan> sure no one tried to use renegade on ubuntu 8.10
[01:43] <simon__> will not the box be acctived
[01:43] <simon__> ???
[01:44] <Kovert> simon__: no there should be a dialog
[01:45] <legodude_> brandan:
[01:45] <legodude_> did you check wine hq?
[01:46] <simon__> ok but it is something that i need to say! my internett dosn't show the right picture because the nvindia dupport is not acctivated
[01:46] <Kovert> simon__:  have you enabled the hardware drivers?
[01:47] <simon__> nope it is not on the list
[01:47] <brandan> It was the destop effects that was causing the game to mess up
[01:47] <Kovert> you have opened the hardware driver gui
[01:50] <CourtJesterG> #amarok
[01:51] <CourtJesterG> can someone do somthing for me?
[01:52] <Kovert> CourtJesterG: depends
[01:52] <CourtJesterG> got a myspace?
[01:52] <Kovert> no
[01:52] <CourtJesterG> even facebook
[01:52] <Kovert> no
[01:52] <CourtJesterG> =(
[01:52] <Kovert> what is your issue
[01:53] <Kovert> Where did they put the 12 vs 24 hr clock settings this time?
[01:53] <CourtJesterG> well anyway got my flash my java try to load the yoville app aand it loads to start when i click start nothing happens not undderstanding why using java 6
[01:53] <CourtJesterG> happens in firefox and kon
[01:53] <walbert> Kovert:  I think that they're in Regional/Language settings inside of System Settings
[01:53] <Kovert> !medibuntu
[01:54] <Kovert> walbert: thanks
[01:55] <walbert> Inside of KTorrent, is there any way to decide what to download on a file-by-file basis /after/ a download starts?
[01:55] <Kovert> walbert: cant you kill certain parts?
[01:56] <walbert> Kovert: Not that I can see... ktorrent looks very handicapped thus far compared to other bittorrent clients
[01:56] <Kovert> walbert: you can install vuze
[01:57] <walbert> ereugh
[01:57] <walbert> i might just go back to transmission
[01:57] <walbert> For some reason, i feel an odd twang of guilt running gtk apps on kde (or kde apps on gnome), even though I probably shouldn't.
[01:58] <TJ12> tj@tj-laptop:~$ su
[01:58] <TJ12> Password:
[01:58] <TJ12> su: Authentication failure
[01:58] <TJ12> tj@tj-laptop:~$
[01:58] <LjL> 1root
[01:58] <LjL> !root
[01:58] <Kovert> walbert: again vuze
[01:59] <walbert> Kovert:  wayy too resource-intensive for  my tastes :)
[01:59] <brandan> will .net be possibe in the next ubuntu version?
[01:59] <Kovert> walbert: you have cheap tastes! laffing
[01:59] <CourtJesterG> no sure if yoville falls into this catorgory but glad to see you can use skpy if needed be
[02:00] <walbert> I can understand a bittorrent client that uses resources for massive amounts of sockets needing to be kept open/etc... not some kind of half-brained "content layer", or whatever vuze calls it
[02:00] <HRshovinstuff> sigh... anyone here familiar with vlc media player
[02:00] <walbert> Yeah HR, what's up?
[02:00] <Kovert> HRshovinstuff: juts ask the question
[02:01] <HRshovinstuff> I was changing the skin settings within the   preferences menu.   I go to restart the program and now it will not open.  I have done a complete removal via the synaptics package manager, and a reinstall via terminal.   I cannot get the GUI to come up
[02:01] <HRshovinstuff> it runs in terminal just fine
[02:01] <CourtJesterG> to me it seems the start button is disabled
[02:02] <legodude_> HRshovinstuff: did you check ~/.config/vlc?
[02:02] <HRshovinstuff> legodude_: i will check that now
[02:02] <legodude_> and ~/.local/share/vlc
[02:02] <legodude_> might want to try removing config files
[02:02] <legodude_> might restore your settings
[02:03] <CourtJesterG> i got this
[02:03] <legodude_> you can calso try #vlc
[02:03] <CourtJesterG> Could not identify or did not find an approved authentication protocol. Check the targeted host and all necessary parameters.
[02:03] <walbert> legodude: i think it's #videolan ? could be wrong
[02:03] <legodude_> ah yes
[02:03] <legodude_> you are correct
[02:04] <CourtJesterG> i get permission denied to call method location.tostring with firebug
[02:04] <HRshovinstuff> legodude_  neither of those directories exists
[02:04] <legodude_> HRshovinstuff: try find . | grep vlc
[02:04] <walbert> HRshovinstuff:   try sudo updatedb && locate vlc | grep /home
[02:05] <walbert> (those commands are largely identical, don't worry about both)
[02:05] <legodude_> yeah, my command should be run in ~
[02:05] <HRshovinstuff> yessir .....working.....
[02:05] <TJ12> Im trying to go as root
[02:05] <TJ12> i type su
[02:05] <TJ12> it says password
[02:06] <TJ12> i put in my password and it dont work
[02:06] <Dragnslcr> It's sudo, not su
[02:06] <walbert> tj12:  ubuntu doesn't have a su command.  if you -really- want a root shell, then sudo bash
[02:06] <Kovert> TJ12: try sudo
[02:06] <serenity> torrent of aseigo's second show for kde4 is now available: http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/4527435
[02:06] <legodude_> or sudo su
[02:06] <TJ12> no im trying to install something
[02:06] <mister-tea> or kdesudo
[02:06] <TJ12> but to install it i gotta be root
[02:07] <Kovert> sudo bash
[02:07] <mister-tea> !sudo
[02:07] <legodude_> sudo command
[02:07] <TJ12> http://sheltermanager.sourceforge.net/linux_deb.p
[02:07] <walbert> sudo bash will keep your user's bash profile, sudo su will use root's profile, btw
[02:07] <TJ12> got it thanks
[02:09] <HRshovinstuff> ahhh legodude_  you are my hero
[02:09] <HRshovinstuff> i removed the configs, and back to my fav player ty
[02:09] <HRshovinstuff> FYI  they were located in   ~/.vlc
[02:09] <legodude_> you're welcome
[02:09] <HRshovinstuff> :)
[02:10] <HRshovinstuff> i thought i was boned there for a moment, but only a moment
[02:11] <walbert> HRshovinstuff:  just remember that synaptic will rarely remove any config files from any user's home directory when you uninstall... it will just stick to systemwide files
[02:11] <legodude_> yeah
[02:11] <legodude_> and most config files are .something
[02:11] <legodude_> or .something/
[02:11] <TekkieFreak> brb
[02:11] <HRshovinstuff> definately I will remember that
[02:11] <TJ12> hrm
[02:14] <TJ12> im trying to install something
[02:14] <TJ12> i downloaded it to documents
[02:14] <TJ12> i typed dpkg -i sheltermanager-2.3.4_i386.deb
[02:14] <TJ12> and this is what i get
[02:14] <TJ12> root@tj-laptop:~# dpkg -i sheltermanager-2.3.4_i386.deb
[02:14] <TJ12> dpkg: error processing sheltermanager-2.3.4_i386.deb (--install):
[02:14] <TJ12>  cannot access archive: No such file or directory
[02:14] <TJ12> Errors were encountered while processing:
[02:14] <TJ12>  sheltermanager-2.3.4_i386.deb
[02:14] <TJ12> root@tj-laptop:~#
[02:14] <danielches> hey, im having problems with sound, i sill have sound coming out of my speaker even whilst my headphones are plugged in (it plays sound throught both speakers and headphones)
[02:14] <mister-tea> !paste
[02:15] <Kovert> TJ12: why notopen in in ark
[02:15] <legodude_>  TJ12 it looks like you are in the wrong directory?
[02:16] <legodude_> i downloaded it to documents & root@tj-laptop:~#
[02:17] <Kovert> brb
[02:19] <TekkieFreak> Anyone know how to get the taskbar to the top of my screen in kde4?
[02:21] <Kovert> Shzam!
[02:21] <walbert> TekkieFreak -> reveal the top-right corner of your desktop, click the little symbol there, ensure that your widgets are unlocked,  then click the (smaller, but identical) symbol on your taskbar.    the bar that appears can be dragged to any part of your screen
[02:22] <Kovert> !medibuntu
[02:23] <shangyong> add a panel directly
[02:23] <shangyong> and you can add widgets on this panel
[02:24] <TekkieFreak> How do I reveal the top right corner?
[02:24] <TekkieFreak> There is nothing there.
[02:24] <TJ12> what directory do i need to put that file in
[02:24] <walbert> TekkieFreak:  using kde 4.1.x?
[02:24] <walbert> tj12:  It doesn't matter where it is.... just cd to the same directory from the shell whenever you go to install the package...
[02:25] <TekkieFreak> Walbert yes.
[02:25] <TekkieFreak> two monitors at the moment though.
[02:25] <TJ12> k
[02:26] <walbert> tekkiefreak: hrm, whelp I only have on atm my disposal :)  At the top-right there's a little foot-looking symbol
[02:26] <Kovert> whats the packages with the "bad" software in it
[02:26] <Dr_willis> Huh?
[02:27] <TekkieFreak> :)...well one of mine is a laptop...so I have an external monitor.
[02:27] <Kovert> Dr_willis: the "bad" packages
[02:27] <TJ12> root@tj-laptop:~# ls
[02:27] <TJ12> Desktop  Documents  Examples  logs  Music  Pictures  Public  Templates  Videos
[02:27] <TJ12> root@tj-laptop:~# cd Documents
[02:27] <TJ12> root@tj-laptop:~/Documents# ls
[02:27] <TekkieFreak> I'll switch to one and see if that helps... hang on.
[02:27] <TJ12> sheltermanager-2.3.4_i386_linux.tar.gz
[02:27] <TJ12> root@tj-laptop:~/Documents# dpkg -i sheltermanager-2.3.4_i386.deb
[02:27] <TJ12> dpkg: error processing sheltermanager-2.3.4_i386.deb (--install):
[02:27] <TJ12>  cannot access archive: No such file or directory
[02:27] <TJ12> Errors were encountered while processing:
[02:27] <TJ12>  sheltermanager-2.3.4_i386.deb
[02:27] <TJ12> root@tj-laptop:~/Documents#
[02:27] <TJ12> so then i tar -zxvf it
[02:27] <legodude_> TJ12: you shouldn't spam
[02:28] <legodude_> that is also not a deb file
[02:28] <legodude_> that is a tarball
[02:28] <TJ12> hrmmmmm
[02:28] <TJ12> ill figure it out
[02:28] <legodude_> download the deb
[02:28] <legodude_> that is what you need to do
[02:28] <legodude_> not the source tarball
[02:28] <legodude_> which is what that is (probably)
[02:29] <TekkieFreak> Oh weird...hrm.
[02:29] <TekkieFreak> Now it *thinks * it has 2 monitors but is only on one...
[02:32] <TekkieFreak> Gah...brb.
[02:32] <TekkieFreak> have to log out again.
[02:33]  * Kovert is so excited 3 min from having a usable system
[02:33] <legodude_> howso?
[02:34] <Kovert> firefox win32 codacs pidgin skype etc
[02:34] <legodude_> ah
[02:34] <legodude_> I don't think it will really be completely usable until jaunty
[02:35] <Kovert> and most important "npr the current"
[02:35] <legodude_> ?
[02:35] <Kovert> google it
[02:36] <legodude_> yeah, but what does that have to do with kubuntu?
[02:36] <legodude_> just streaming it you mean?
[02:36] <Kovert> I cant install any more software with out music!
[02:36] <legodude_> wow, good recent playlist
[02:36] <Kovert> yes
[02:36] <legodude_> 3/5 decent songs
[02:36] <Kovert> best station I have found
[02:37] <legodude_> I like CBC radio2's "the signal"
[02:37] <legodude_> pretty eclectic
[02:37] <Kovert> I will listen
[02:37] <legodude_> comes on in 20min
[02:37] <Kovert> firefox
[02:37] <Kovert> this is all day
[02:37] <Kovert> it's alove
[02:38] <mister-tea> !enter
[02:38] <Kovert> think I need mplayer
[02:39] <Kovert> was so so close
[02:41] <Kovert> Huzzah!
[02:42] <naught101> anyone here tried the Jaunty Alpha?
[02:43] <legodude_> Kovert: problem is your radio station is basically the same thing as my playlist
[02:44] <legodude_> naught101: nope
[02:44] <legodude_> is it out yet?
[02:44] <naught101> three days ago
[02:44] <Kovert> legodude_: thats great
[02:44] <naught101> according to the release schedule, anyway
[02:44] <legodude_> didn't know that
[02:45] <Kovert> pidgin going in now
[02:49] <naught101> legodude_: looks like there are no killer bugs.. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.searchtext=jaunty&orderby=-importance
[02:53] <supertones> anyone recommend a good cheap webcam?
[02:54] <Kovert> supertones: arent they all cheap
[02:55] <supertones> i just mean anyone knows one that works in linux?
[02:55] <Kovert> supertones: I woudl look at the reviews then thake that one and then query it for linux drivers
[02:56] <supertones> k
[02:56] <legodude_> UVC ones work nice
[02:56] <legodude_> but are having some trouble right now that is being worked on
[02:56] <legodude_> so hopefully the fix will be available in a week or two
[02:56] <legodude_> UVC-class video cameras I mean
[02:56] <TJ12> trying to install something i get Error Dependency is not satisfiable: sun-java6-jre
[02:57] <legodude_> !java
[02:58] <TJ12> !multiverse
[02:59] <kinte> Does anyone know how to mount a DR-DOS filesystem from Kubuntu?
[02:59] <legodude_> isn't it a fat filesystem?
[02:59] <Kovert> yes
[03:00] <JediatNight> Dolphn would be able to mount a FAT16 or FAT32 file system ?
[03:00] <kinte> I try to use the vfat type but keep getting an error about wrong fs type
[03:01] <legodude_> vfat is fat32 no?
[03:01] <JediatNight> vfat can be fat16 as well
[03:01] <JediatNight> its for windows like OS
[03:01] <ralpho> example mount -t vfat /dev/ndas-37018340-0 /mnt/MedaiPlayer
[03:01] <JediatNight> vfat offers Long file names
[03:02] <ralpho> i bet dr dos is 16
[03:02] <legodude_> yeah
[03:02] <Dr_willis> 'fat' vs 'vfat'
[03:02] <Dr_willis> or -t msdos ?
[03:02] <kinte> i think it is 16
[03:02] <JediatNight> vfat was an enhanced version of fat16 for windows 95 with LFN support
[03:02] <JediatNight> as far as i remember
[03:03] <legodude_> yup
[03:03] <ralpho> good old days
[03:03] <Dr_willis> i never was clear on where the term vfat came from.. :) 'very fat' :)
[03:03] <JediatNight> i wrote a FAT16 file system with VFAT couple oof years ago for accessing Sd cards with microcontrollers
[03:03] <legodude_> virtual fat
[03:03] <kinte> i have an external drive that was formatted by my satelite box in a DR-DOS format.  I'm using as a DVR.  But I can't access the files on my computer
[03:03] <Dr_willis> but its real! :)
[03:04] <Dr_willis> do a 'sudo fdisk -l' and see what filesystem it says it is
[03:04] <legodude_> yeah
[03:04] <legodude_> could be funky something
[03:04] <legodude_> for large disk support
[03:04] <Dr_willis> i was thinking dr-dos had some optuions/enhancements to  the dos filesystem also..
[03:04] <kinte> it is listed as "unknown system".  but the ID is c8
[03:04] <Dr_willis> Interesting...
[03:05] <Dr_willis> could be some special FS used by the box.. ?
[03:05] <legodude_> yeah
[03:05] <legodude_> how big is the drive?
[03:05] <kinte> the drive has 2 partitions.  Fat32 and Unknown.  I want to access the unknown
[03:05] <legodude_> often times they use funky formatting for speed/ease of use
[03:05] <JediatNight> does DR_DOS file system support FAT32 or is it just fAT16 , i forgot.. what it supported.. remember seeing the code in 2005 :P
[03:05] <kinte> the fat32 partition is 10 gig.  and the other is 480 gig
[03:06] <legodude_> yeah
[03:06] <legodude_> that tells you somethign
[03:06] <legodude_> fat32 is limited to 127gb?
[03:06] <JediatNight> fat32 supports upto 4 TB i guess?
[03:06] <JediatNight> or 2 TB?
[03:06] <legodude_> "The project's efforts have resulted so far in adding native support for large disks (LBA) and the FAT32 filesystem. There were also several other enhancements, including improved memory management and support for the new FAT+ filesystem extension which allows files of almost 256 GB in size on normal FAT partitions."
[03:06] <ralpho> what if its compressed
[03:07] <JediatNight> the answer is 2^28 bytes
[03:07] <legodude_> JediatNight: but depends on implementation
[03:07] <JediatNight> the maximum size of a fAT32 volume is 2^28 bytes ..  as 4 bits are not used in FAT32 for fat tables
[03:08] <legodude_> ralpho: could be
[03:08] <legodude_> what box is it?
[03:08] <kinte> is there some type of drdos driver or something that would make it automatically mount like the fat
[03:08] <JediatNight> legodude: that is what M$ says
[03:08] <legodude_> but probably not compressed
[03:08] <kinte> I got a PANSAT 9200
[03:08] <ralpho> If it is your doomed
[03:08] <legodude_> no point to compress video though
[03:08] <legodude_> beyond mpeg
[03:08] <TJ12> anyone know how to install sun java
[03:09] <TJ12> i read the things and cant figure it out
[03:09] <Dr_willis> TJ12,  i normally install the kubuntu-restricted-extras package and it grabs java and more...
[03:09] <Dr_willis> Not much to read. :)
[03:09] <ralpho> does it all by itself
[03:09] <Dr_willis> 'sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras' One of the first things I do on a new install.
[03:10] <TJ12> ok thanks
[03:11] <JediatNight> legodue: have you ever programmed lego robots?
[03:11] <jimmy51_home> TJ12: be careful with the java license dialog though
[03:11] <legodude_> JediatNight: nope
[03:11] <jimmy51_home> the first time i installed it i accidently hit 'no' and didn't have java
[03:11] <JediatNight> they are really cool . .as you can program them in  java
[03:11] <kinte> i also get a message saying Partition 2 does not end on cylinder boundary.  Could this be an issue?
[03:11] <legodude_> yup
[03:12] <JediatNight> there is a tiny vm in java.. and it is fun to interface them using Jini
[03:12] <JediatNight> i forgot the exact name of the microcontroller which is in the lego bots
[03:12] <JediatNight> is it an atmel/
[03:12] <JediatNight> ?
[03:12] <TJ12> yea
[03:12] <TJ12> it wont let me do ok
[03:12] <TJ12> i press enter and i get nothing
[03:13] <legodude_> JediatNight: could be atmel arm
[03:13] <ralpho> i found this
[03:13] <ralpho> mount -F dos /dev/rdsk/fds0d2.3.5 /floppy
[03:13] <legodude_> don't think any AVR are any where near fast enough
[03:13] <JediatNight> i was thinking of buying a lego robot kit :P they are fun to play and interface with jini
[03:14] <TJ12> jimmy51_home: how do i do the okay
[03:14] <Kovert> any one have any experiance with webcam drivers I found this http://lwn.net/Articles/291036/ but i dont knwo what to do with it
[03:14] <kinte> that -F option isn't working for me
[03:14] <Kovert> says spca505 is for mew
[03:15] <Kovert> -f
[03:15] <TJ12> never mind i figured it out
[03:15] <legodude_> Kovert: what are you asking?
[03:15] <JediatNight> kovert: what kind of chip is on your webcam?
[03:15] <JediatNight> is there any distro which is already supporting it?
[03:15] <Kovert> legodude_: I want to install my webcam
[03:15] <legodude_> kinte: I think you are sunk :(
[03:16] <legodude_> legodude_: what happens when you plug it in?
[03:16] <Kovert> Bus 002 Device 004: ID 0733:0430 ViewQuest Technologies, Inc. Intel Pro Share WebCam
[03:16] <legodude_> kubuntu comes with support for many cams
[03:16] <Kovert> legodude_: thats nice! :-(
[03:16] <kinte> looks like it
[03:16] <legodude_> what are the lines surrounding that?
[03:17] <JediatNight> you have to install video4linux it seemed to suport many devices
[03:17] <Kovert> I can try that
[03:17] <legodude_> have you just tried cheese?
[03:17] <Kovert> yes rats refused it
[03:17] <legodude_> haha
[03:18] <Kovert> Couldn't find package video4linux
[03:18] <legodude_> but cheese doesn't work?
[03:18] <Kovert> correct
[03:18] <ralpho> was it just simple like  mount -t msdos /dev/hda1 /dos
[03:18] <legodude_> I think v4l is installed?
[03:19] <Kovert> don't think so
[03:21] <Kovert> legodude_: looks like it isnt
[03:22] <JediatNight> i have to eat something.. bbl
[03:25] <Kovert> !v4l
[03:26] <Kovert> !video4linux
[03:26] <legodude_> v4l-conf?
[03:26] <legodude_> try hitting that
[03:26] <Kovert> !v4l-conf
[03:26] <legodude_> nono, installing the package
[03:26] <legodude_> !info  Intel Pro Share WebCam
[03:26] <legodude_> er
[03:26] <legodude_> !info v4l-conf
[03:27] <tehk123> Anyone know if I can rebind Control-A to "goto the start of the line" instead of "Select all"?
[03:27] <Kovert> legodude_: how do I get that in?
[03:27] <tehk123> I used to be able to in kde3, but in four I no long have the ability to edit those options
[03:27] <legodude_> sudo apt-get install v4l-conf
[03:28] <Kovert> wow
[03:28] <legodude_> v4l is part of teh kernel AFAIK
[03:29] <Kovert> wow not usre how to use it
[03:31] <Kovert> this is what i thought it should besudo v4l-conf -a 0733:0430
[03:34] <legodude_> Kovert: can you pastebin your dmesg?
[03:35] <Kovert> legodude_: http://pastebin.com/m67130742
[03:36] <legodude_> uh
[03:36] <legodude_> I don't see your cam?
[03:36] <Kovert> oh?
[03:37] <legodude_> yeah
[03:37] <legodude_> I don't see any mention ofit
[03:38] <Kovert> let me trace it
[03:39] <Kovert> its plugged in
[03:39] <legodude_> try unplugging/plugging
[03:40] <Kovert> done
[03:40] <legodude_> any update in the dmesg?
[03:41] <Kovert> i think so
[03:45] <Kovert> nope no change
[03:45] <Kovert>    30.305003] usbcore: registered new interface driver spca505
[03:45] <Kovert> [   30.305021] spca505: registered
[03:45] <Kovert> thought that might be it
[03:46] <legodude_> yeah
[03:46] <legodude_> that is
[03:46] <Kovert> cheese
[03:46] <legodude_> so it looks like the driver is there
[03:46] <legodude_> now you need to find out how to properly talk to it
[03:46] <Kovert> right case cheese dont like it
[03:47] <legodude_> you can try stuff with gstreamer if you have that installed
[03:47] <legodude_> or ekiga
[03:47] <legodude_> or another one that I can't remember the name of
[03:47] <Kovert> \dev\video1
[03:48] <Kovert> how about skype
[03:48] <legodude_> should
[03:48] <Kovert> nope it has cooties
[03:51] <legodude_> try gstreamer
[03:52] <legodude_> gst-launch v4l2src name=video_source device=/dev/video0
[04:00] <TJ12> is there a program like limewire for kubuntu
[04:01] <karan> how do you check the ip of a site by using terminal
[04:02] <QQmelo> karan
[04:02] <legodude_> ping
[04:02] <QQmelo> nslookup
[04:02] <legodude_> nslookuop
[04:02] <QQmelo> or ping
[04:02] <legodude_> nslookup
[04:02] <QQmelo> but, if you use ping, the remote host can block your pings
[04:02] <QQmelo> is better nslookup
[04:03] <walbert> dig beats them both ^.^
[04:03] <legodude_> it does
[04:03] <legodude_> for simple DNS resolve, blocking pings should not do anything
[04:03] <stdin> "host <address>" works too
[04:39] <karan> i am not able to turn my bluetooth on  how can i turn it on
[04:42] <maxbaldwin> karan, power button?
[04:42] <maxbaldwin> :D
[04:44] <karan> i tried that
[04:45] <karan> isnt there any command int the terminal which checks wheather ur bluetooth is on or not or rather turns it on
[04:47] <mortici> Unfortunately KDE4 and kdebluetooth4 are in no so great shape.....
[04:48] <mortici> i know my BT works but the utility to run it doesn't really work lol
[04:48] <mortici> you can try in console
[04:48] <mortici> kbluetooh4
[04:48] <mortici> then
[04:48] <mortici> kbluetooh4-devicemanager
[04:50] <mortici> i have a slightly weirder issue... it seems my konsole window size doesn't want to save, i resize it exit and launch again and a weird size loads once more....
[04:51] <Wicked> whats the best way to install compiz-fusion in 8.10?
[04:52] <mortici> Hostname: SuperNova - OS: Linux 2.6.27-7-generic/i686 - CPU: 2 x Intel(R) Core(TM)2 (3199.967 MHz) - Processes: 136 - Uptime: 9h 35m - Load Average: 0.22 - Memory Usage: 405.03MB/2023.88MB (20.01%) - Disk Usage: 219.70GB/138.51GB (158.62%)
[04:56] <Wicked> !compiz
[05:18] <unni> I too have this konsole issue. It doesn't remove the size, and everytime opens in a weird shape
[05:44] <unni> Looks like the konsole issue has been fixed in KDE 4.1.3 update
[05:49] <Greenery> is there a way to free up plasma memory usage?
[06:03] <hellhound__> I am having trouble with my logitech quickcam communicate stx webcam in kopete.  I worked before I upgraded to kde 4.1 (i had kde 4.0 before)
[06:08] <dayel> hola banda
[06:09] <dayel> hola sigma
[06:09] <sigma> how do you disable the update notifier in intrepid? can i uninstall it?
[06:09] <sigma> howsit dayel
[06:10] <sigma> dam was reading aseigo's blog, kde 4.2 is gonna be wicked, so many improvements, and a brand new system tray!
[06:11] <dayel> where you are sigma
[06:12] <dayel> alguien que sea de mexico
[06:16] <sigma> ah just uninstall update-notifier-kde!
[06:18] <Sokal-EC> ok i installed gnome-themes and gnome-themes-extras now where are they?
[06:20] <Sokal-EC> i clicked on the desktop to change themes and nothing new
[06:20] <Sokal-EC> how do i access said themes?
[06:23] <Sokal-EC> how do i change the kde-look.org to gnome-look.org under plasma workspace themes?
[06:24] <surgy> hello
[06:24] <surgy> im trying to get my vivitar vivicam35 to work
[06:24] <TJ12> dont think theres anyone awake in here might wana ask in #ubuntu
[06:24] <surgy> thats a first!
[06:38]  * JediatNight is away: Gone away for now
[06:59] <TJ12> !themes
[07:00] <TJ12> !changethemes
[07:00] <surgy> can someone help me find webcam software?
[07:00] <surgy> or no the names of any?
[07:00]  * JediatNight is back.
[07:01] <brandan> Theres one but I think its only for Windows
[07:02] <surgy> anyone?
[07:03] <brandan> http://www.seismo.ethz.ch/linux/webcam.html
[07:03] <JediatNight> surgy: have you installed video4linux?
[07:05] <surgy> no didnt know anything about it
[07:05] <surgy> in the repos?
[07:06] <brandan> Surgy, Have you tried Camorama Webcam Viewer?
[07:06] <surgy> my problem is that i dont even know if linux installed the camera
[07:06] <surgy> and i tried vlc to veiw the webcam but it ask for the address of the camera
[07:06] <surgy> and i dont know that
[07:07] <surgy> im thinking about trying easycam
[07:07] <brandan> Isn't it just your IP or lan address
[07:08] <surgy> what?
[07:08] <surgy> no this is a usb camera
[07:08] <surgy> i just call it a "web cam" out of habit sorry
[07:09] <brandan> Ive never used a Webcam in linux ^^
[07:10] <surgy> and by adress i mean like /mount/video0
[07:13] <brandan> oh
[07:13] <brandan> like
[07:13] <brandan> /media
[07:13] <brandan> /media/cdrom
[07:16] <surgy> hmmm guess im on my own here
[07:23] <surgy> http://pastebin.com/m4f855f5
[07:23] <surgy> thats what i got
[07:23] <surgy> not even showing it mounted
[07:23] <surgy> so how do i mount it?
[07:44]  * Away is away: Gone away for now
[07:45]  * brandan is back.
[08:08] <MCMetal> is everyone here?
[08:08] <dr_willis> well not everyone.. :)
[08:08] <MCMetal> :-D
[08:11] <dwidmann> if by everyone you mean a few people, then yes, everyone is here.
[08:19] <TJ12> !theme
[08:36] <TJ12> !qtcurve
[08:45] <MCMetal2> kubuntu!
[08:45] <eagles0513875> !qt | TJ12
[08:57] <MCMetal2> what are you doing at the moment?
[09:00] <MCMetal2> what are you doing at the moment?
[09:15] <StormBlade> hi all i've got a problem. i've just installed kubuntu 8.10 but i was'nt able to configure eth0 and unfortunately i am writing from windows now.. can anyone help me how can i configure eth0 and access internet ..
[09:19] <ott0> why does this script not echo "hi"?  -->  echo "hi" | read a    \n     echo "$a"
[09:20] <tj_> !themes
[09:21] <tj_> ott0: join #ubuntu i think everyone in here is asleep
[09:21] <ott0> k
[09:21] <sunshine> Hey, i have a intel sound card, but there is absolutely no sound coming out of kde4
[09:21] <dr_willis> I imagine its somthing to do with read not reading from the standard input.. or bad quoteing..
[09:22] <dr_willis>  echo "hi" | read a  does not set a
[09:22] <dr_willis> oh wait it did now. :)
[09:22] <Copelia> !fr
[09:22] <Copelia> Bonjours,
[09:22] <Copelia> !warez
[09:23] <sunshine> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03)
[09:23] <Copelia> !o4o
[09:24] <dr_willis> o4o ?
[09:24] <dr_willis> Not much need for warez in linux. :P
[09:24] <ott0> dr_willis: when type echo "hi" | read a it doesn't seem to set a
[09:24] <dr_willis> ott0,  yep.. it dosent..
[09:24] <dr_willis> sounds to me like read is not reading from stdin
[09:24] <rogan> http://www.blogpirate.org
[09:24] <dr_willis> a=$(echo "hi")
[09:25] <ott0> that's interesting because this script seems to be doing just that...  http://www.fantasmacomputing.com/fc/index.php?id=14
[09:25] <dr_willis> I wonder if its because thats IN a script.. thus the variables are local to that script.
[09:26] <dr_willis> not from the command line.
[09:26] <ott0> hmm i'll try running it in a script
[09:27] <ott0> go figure, doesn't work
[09:27] <tj_> where is qtcurve located
[09:27] <dr_willis> http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/internal.html#READREF
[09:28] <dr_willis> says --------->	
[09:28] <dr_willis> Piping output to a read, using echo to set variables will fail.
[09:28] <jussi01> !info qtcurve
[09:28] <tj_> i need to open qtcurve but duno where its at
[09:29] <ramchan1> can some one pls paste me the file - /etc/init.d/halt  - i accidentally deleted it
[09:29] <jussi01> tj_: do: dpkg -L qtcurve
[09:29] <ramchan1> i am on 8.10
[09:31] <JediatNight> back
[09:33] <ott0> dr_willis: thanks
[09:33] <ott0> that's a handy reference page
[09:35] <dr_willis> its in the repos if you want to isnatll it..
[09:35] <dr_willis> !info abs-guide
[09:37] <kaminix> What's the name of the package which handles gtk themes in KDE 3 (Hardy Heron)?
[09:40] <noaXess> hey
[09:41] <noaXess> i have a notebook with a removable dvd-rom.. if i connect the dvd-rom, wil kubuntu 8.10 is running, nothing happend.. not in log's or dmesg.. i need to reboot my notebook to get the dvd-rom.. in kubuntu 8.04 it worked perfect..
[09:41] <noaXess> any idea?
[09:41] <noaXess> hotplug not active?
[09:42] <ott0> has anyone else experienced a bug where if you resize the task bar too small the icons don't shrink properly and overflow from the top of the screen?
[09:43] <ott0> in kde 4.1
[09:43] <noaXess> ott0: what graficcard?
[09:43] <ott0> how do i check again?
[09:45] <noaXess> lspci | grep VGA
[09:45] <noaXess> !hotplug
[09:45] <matt__> Hi, I'm getting massive packet loss on my main PC that I think has only started since kernel 27-8-generic, is it possible that can be a factor. I've tried 3 different wifi cards and turned off every device
[09:45] <ott0>  VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 0c)
[09:46] <noaXess> ott0: are your effects for kde4.1 all activated?
[09:46] <ott0> i'm actually running gnome at the moment because kde was buggy. i was running it in the default configuration after installing 8.10
[09:46] <koperton> hi guys
[09:46] <noaXess> ott0: try to disable all the effects and test aging to resize your main panel
[09:46] <ott0> if you want i can boot back into kde and check
[09:47] <ott0> okay i'm going to try it
[09:47] <ott0> be back in a bit
[09:47] <noaXess> ok
[09:47] <noaXess> ho can i force hardware detecting?.. my hotplug dvd-rom can't be found unti i reboot..
[09:52] <dwidmann> noaXess: If you find out let me know, but I'm not sure it's possible ... could be a motherboard limitation.
[09:56] <ott0> so, er, how do i disable effects?
[09:57] <ott0> pardon my ignorance
[09:57] <ott0> ah
[09:58] <ott0> i disabled desktop effects and the bug is still present
[10:00] <tj_> !itunes
[10:11] <JackWinter> hehe, i installed kubuntu 8.10 in a vbox 2.0.4.  with some work i got most of the guest additions working.  now i was clever enough to enable desktop effects, and whenever i boot the vbox i'm greated with a black screen.  is there a config file i can edit in single user mode to turn  it off ?
[10:17] <stdin> JackWinter: ~/.kde/share/config/kwinrc
[10:17] <stdin> look for "Enabled=true" under "[Compositing]" and change to "false"
[10:20] <noaXess> dwidmann: no motherboard limition.. cause in 8.04 it worked perfectly, disconnecting and connecting the hitplug dvd worked in 8.04..
[10:23] <noaXess> what modul is used for dvd/cd drives?
[10:24] <noaXess> cause i think i need to modprobe that modul to get my dvd-drive/bay working
[10:32] <noaXess> aha ACPI: Error installing bay notify handler
[10:32] <noaXess> seams a problem with the bay handler..
[10:32] <noaXess> hm..
[10:32] <noaXess> sudo /etc/init.d/acpid restart and above error i get in syslog
[10:34] <noaXess> here is my log.. if anybody canhelp.. http://paste.ubuntu.com/75904/
[10:36] <JackWinter> thanks stdin!  worked fine.
[10:37] <JackWinter> I take it that compositing isn't working in a vbox due to the missing 3d functionality ?
[10:40] <stdin> JackWinter: probably, though XRender may work over OpenGL
[10:45] <JackWinter> stdin: how do i configure that ?
[10:46] <stdin> JackWinter: from the "Advanced Options" button, there's an option in the combo-box at the top to choose XRender
[10:46] <stdin> which is 3D done in software
[10:47] <jxander> hi there... i have an ati x1400 on a dell inspiron 6400 laptop. I've just installed kubuntu 8.10 and then the restricted drivers, but i get a black screen on boot on my laptop and on my secondary samsung syncmaster 2243nw tft panel. if i disconnect the panel and reboot, i am able to log into kde4. but if i connect the panel later, it isn't detected. please help :D
[10:51] <JackWinter> stdin: thanks that works, but is a bit slow.  (need more cpu cycles :)
[10:51] <stdin> JackWinter: yeah, because it's all done on the CPU not the graphics chip
[10:54] <JackWinter> stdin: still it's cool, now i can really evaluate the new kde without giving up my hardy nor rebooting.
[10:57] <KiVIrc> òóò åñòü ðóññêèå?
[10:59] <stdin> !ru | KiVIrc
[11:04] <noaXess> is it possible to restart ata2/PATA connector?.. my hotplug dvd-drive works only if i reboot and it is connected.. while 8.10 is running a can't get it working.
[11:09] <Amarilis> guys, i need a little help. i messed up my x server when i tried to update my nvidia drivers
[11:09] <Amarilis> and now i cant start de x server \
[11:11] <Amarilis> i have a  6600gt nvidia card
[11:11] <Guest87323> hy
[11:13] <Amarilis> it telling me that the nvidia kernel module has version 169.12 but this nvidia driver component has version 177.82
[11:14] <Amarilis> and continues with: please make sure that the kernel module and all nvidia driver components have the same version
[11:14] <jxander> anyone having an external monitor that could show me their configs please?
[11:14] <Amarilis> so, how can i fix this problem
[11:15] <JackWinter> Amarilis: goto /etc/X11 and edit xorg.conf.  change the driver from nvidia to nv (the xorg drivers)
[11:17] <Amarilis> ok
[11:17] <Amarilis> i will try this
[11:17] <tarantos> ciao a tutti ce qualcuno che mi sa dire come faccio a correggere un erroreù
[11:17] <tarantos> ma come faccio ad entare nella chat italiana
[11:18] <tarantos> ce qualcuno
[11:19] <tarantos> qual'èla chat italò
[11:22] <Amarilis> tarantos: vai a #ubuntu-it
[11:22] <tarantos> italiani dove siete?
[11:22] <koperton> ubuntu-it
[11:22] <koperton> -.-''
[11:23] <koperton> !it | tarantos
[11:23] <VousDeux> hello: I seem to be having a little problem with the position of of a couple of programs on the screen. For example, when I open Firefox the title bar will be above the top of the screen and i cannot seem to move it. I have to maximize it before I can get to the button to close it.
[11:24] <tarantos> ciao a tutti  sn nuovo di kubuntu e ho un po di problemi x gli aggiornamenti...qualcuno di buona volontà mi darebbe una mano??
[11:24] <koperton> VousDeux: ALT left butto of the mouse
[11:24] <koperton> tarantos: wtf you are are in the english channel
[11:25] <koperton> tarantos: speak english or go in ubuntu-it
[11:25] <tarantos> scuse  me
[11:26] <VousDeux> That helped, thank you...but when it close and open it again, it goes back to the same spot. Is there a way to have it remember when it was when I closed it?
[11:26] <koperton> mm strange
[11:26] <koperton> have you kde3 or kde4
[11:26] <VousDeux> 3
[11:26] <koperton> mm o mg that is very strange
[11:26] <JackWinter> is there a way to see shockwave in konqueror ?
[11:27] <koperton> JackWinter: ? have you installed plug-ins?
[11:27] <koperton> VousDeux: you could reset kde
[11:27] <VousDeux> Konqueror and Adept will both open toward the bottom right and I always have to drag them up. They just don't want to remember where I put them.
[11:27] <koperton> VousDeux: rename $HOME/.kde
[11:28] <VousDeux> Okay, I'll try that. Thanks again.
[11:28] <JackWinter> koperton: i have installed nonfree flash
[11:28] <koperton> JackWinter: i have konqueror like web browser have you some problem? could you give a link ?
[11:28] <koperton> JackWinter: install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[11:28] <koperton> first
[11:37] <VousDeux> Well, that did help. Obviously my .kde config was some how corrupt. Thank you!
[11:38] <VousDeux> One other small problem is that for quite some time now Adept has notified me of a k3b update. I've installed it  several times, but it won't go away.
[11:38] <JackWinter> koperton: ok installed:  still didn't help: http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/us/2008/11/21/nguyen.xbox.taken.by.cops.wftv does not play.  just flash is no problem, like youtube works, but shockwave...
[11:39] <sourcemaker> can I install ubuntu-desktop together with kubuntu-desktop? So that I can remove ubuntu-destop again... if it does not work for me?
[11:39] <koperton> JackWinter: well konqueror uses mozilla-plugins
[11:39] <koperton> JackWinter: now i will check if my konqui open ti
[11:42] <koperton> JackWinter: mm i dunno i am italian maybe they have rescricted users by area
[11:42] <JackWinter> don't think so.  ah thanks for your help.  it's enough that flash works, don't really need shockwave :)
[11:43] <koperton> JackWinter: anyway it said me general erorr
[11:43] <koperton> JackWinter: i want give you another tricks
[11:44] <koperton> JackWinter: many time konquerors has problem because it uses  default identification but if you change it into safari many time you can get the right visualization
[11:44] <g33k> how to allow root login??
[11:45] <koperton> g33k: ? mm you can use sudo
[11:45] <koperton> why do you need to login like root?
[11:45] <koperton> anyway choose recovery kernel on the start
[11:45] <koperton> then when you get console window type startx
[11:45] <koperton> and you will be root
[11:45] <g33k> ty
[11:46] <koperton> omg
[11:47] <koperton> it's not safe log in like root and go on internet
[11:47] <vall> hi everyone, does anybody know how to setup a mail server on localhost?
[11:51] <vall> anybody please...
[11:51] <koperton> mm?
[11:55] <woden1> how do I install OpenOffice 3?
[12:18] <mandragor> Anyone else having trouble with Knetworkmanager in Intrepid not connecting to wifi-networks? It shows the available wifi-network but clicking its name does nothing
[12:21] <holyguyver> Hello, for some reason Kopete has not been letting me sign into yahoo all day, is happening to anyone else, & how can I fix this?
[12:21] <holyguyver> I am running Kopete from kde3
[12:22] <holyguyver> Hello, for some reason Kopete has not been letting me sign into yahoo all day, is happening to anyone else, & how can I fix this? I am running Kopete from KDE3 on Hardy.
[12:23] <Gelon> Hello
[12:23] <holyguyver> hi
[12:24] <holyguyver> how you doing?
[12:24] <Gelon> fine
[12:24] <Gelon> you?
[12:24] <Gelon> i am using Kubuntu now and are very pleased with it. Now i'm having a slight problem. I have a HTC Tytn II with WM6 and want to synchronize, but could i do that?
[12:24] <holyguyver> Not fine.
[12:24] <Gelon> what's wrong?
[12:25] <holyguyver> A What what what? translate out of geek.
[12:25] <holyguyver> Hello, for some reason Kopete has not been letting me sign into yahoo all day, is happening to anyone else, & how can I fix this? I am running Kopete from KDE3 on Hardy.
[12:26] <holyguyver> What is a HTC TytnII & what is WM6?
[12:26] <Gelon> HTC Tytn is a mobile phone (sort of palmtop)
[12:26] <Gelon> WM6 is Windows Mobile 6 ;)
[12:26] <holyguyver> I do not know what a palmtop is either.
[12:27] <Gelon> very big phone :P
[12:27] <holyguyver> My phone has a cord & is attached to a wall.
[12:27] <holyguyver> My phone is reather large too.
[12:27] <Gelon> http://www.smartdevicesdirect.co.uk/images/htc%20tytn%20II.jpg
[12:28] <Gelon> :P
[12:28] <holyguyver> & I wouldn't know anything about Windows, haven't used it in 5 years.
[12:29] <holyguyver> So I have never owned a cell phone & I have not owned Windows in 5 years, I don't think I can help you :p
[12:30] <Gelon> and i don't have yahoo so can't help you either :P
[12:31] <holyguyver> Gelon & here is a picture of my phone http://gstene.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/old_phone.jpg
[12:31] <Gelon> rofl
[12:31] <holyguyver> I am telling the truth.
[12:31] <Gelon> it's a big one indead :P
[12:33] <holyguyver> So is mine a smart phone too?
[12:33] <Gelon> i think the smart part is coming from your side in this case ;)
[12:34] <webas> hello.. why i cant get latest gimp.. i know there is stable version!!!  OF GIMP 2.6 and via adept...or terminal it installs only 2.4.5.. lame :(
[12:34] <holyguyver> Not much smarts required really, just turning a rotary dial.
[12:35] <holyguyver> webas I can help you out :)
[12:35] <holyguyver> give me a moment to get the site
[12:35] <webas> it would be nice.. :) but i hate installing stuff manually..its impossible for me.. :)
[12:35] <holyguyver> webas are you on Hardy or Intripid?
[12:36] <webas> hardy :)
[12:37] <Gelon> btw is there a way to get OpenOffice 3 in the adept manager (Hardy)
[12:37] <holyguyver> webas http://www.getdeb.net/search.php?keywords=gimp
[12:37] <holyguyver> Gelon yes there is
[12:37] <Gelon> how?
[12:37] <holyguyver> give me a moment to get that for you
[12:39] <holyguyver> Gelon install this http://www.getdeb.net/search.php?keywords=Ubuntu+Tweak & then go to it's third party repose section & activate the Chinese Ubuntu repo.
[12:39] <webas> well.. i have no idea what to do with those man files i need to install somehow.. in gimp..
[12:39] <Gelon> thanks
[12:40] <holyguyver> Webas those are deb files you just tell your system to install the debs & then gimp will update.
[12:41] <webas> Download:   gimp  (4.8 MB)  ,  libgimp2.0  (1.1 MB)  ,  gimp-data  (10.3 MB)  ,  libbabl-0.0-0  (81.6 kB)  ,  libgegl-0.0-0  (332.6 kB)  -- so i need to download all those?? ok..and the second step? uninstall old gimp? then install this?
[12:41] <holyguyver> Yes :)
[12:41] <webas> how to install what file first? with what command?
[12:42] <holyguyver> You just doube click on them & they should start installing.
[12:42] <holyguyver> & you will find out which order because if it is in the wrong order it will let you know.
[12:43] <holyguyver> Hello, for some reason Kopete has not been letting me sign into yahoo all day, is happening to anyone else, & how can I fix this? I am running Kopete from KDE3 on Hardy.
[12:44] <webas> no archive load.. you lied :P this is like rar stuff..not like self-install package :( eh its too hard for me this stuff
[12:44] <holyguyver> They are self install for me.
[12:44] <holyguyver> They are not rars for me
[12:44] <webas> they are .debs... but then i open..they are empty.. :D
[12:44] <holyguyver> Then you are doing something wrong :p
[12:45] <holyguyver> When I double click on debs they start installing instantly.
[12:45] <webas> then i press..it opens with ark... so i thought debs are like rars.. :(
[12:46] <holyguyver> Nope webas debs are self install package files.
[12:46] <webas> ok ok ..nope... but still this no doesnt solve anything..it opens with ark and ark is empty.. and so im stuck :D
[12:46] <holyguyver> With me when I press they open in  gdebi package installer
[12:47] <holyguyver> Perhaps you need to install gdebi?
[12:47] <webas> i will try to find it yes.. :)
[12:47] <ubuntu> hi
[12:48] <holyguyver> Hi Ubuntu, nice to see you visiting your brother Kubuntu.
[12:49] <woodefec> i am installing kubuntu 8.10 from KDE 4.1 live CD and as i tail -f /var/log/messages - i get lot of "Not copying foo" messages
[12:49] <woodefec> is it being installed properly at all?
[12:50] <holyguyver> How am I to know? I am on Hardy :p
[12:51] <woodefec> hey, looks like the installer is getting there - now loading modules
[12:51] <woodefec> hope to see you in a while from freshlyinstalled kubuntu
[12:52] <holyguyver> I am curous to how Webas is doing with finding that installer?
[12:52] <webas> yes.. gdebi.. lame internet :) i never find such program in top10 must have programs for kubuntu..
[12:52] <holyguyver> webas how is things?
[12:52] <webas> now i have newest gimp..thanks
[12:53] <webas> yes gdebi was the answer :)
[12:53] <webas> looks even nicer now that gimp..what about fu-scripts? i must install them manually?
[12:53] <woodefec> allright, one question. how to run a file browser inroot mode from the Live user?
[12:54] <woodefec> i need to remove some KDE4 settings fromold openSUSE homedir, to make it run flawlessly onfirst boot
[12:54] <woodefec> (since nomc is present in the Live CD)
[12:54] <woodefec> *nomc = no mc
[12:55] <woodefec> please help if you know. i tried kdesu konqueror but nothing happened
[12:55] <holyguyver> Webas, I guess so, I don't use fu-scripts so I would not know.
[12:56] <webas> if only i would knew that there is such thing as deb installer :) i remember i wanted to install something from debs long time ago some stuff :D
[12:57] <holyguyver> & webas some distros come with gdebi pre-installed, thus forth it is not needed on those distro's top 10 lists & the other distros would prefer people to not use any third party packages, thus they would not need gdebi.
[12:57] <holyguyver> Ubuntu prefers you not use any third party packages.
[12:58] <webas> kde 4.0 official kubuntu :P should have this by default..
[12:58] <holyguyver> webas many distros do have it by default, but as said kubuntu does not because they do not want you to use any third party software.
[12:59] <webas> ah
[12:59] <holyguyver> So they do not want you to have the tool to easilly install that software.
[12:59] <webas> and kubuntu has this by default?
[12:59] <holyguyver> no
[12:59] <holyguyver> & if I name the distros that do have it by default I will get kicked out of this room.
[13:00] <holyguyver> Ubuntu doesn't like us talking about other distros :p
[13:02] <holyguyver> Hey webas & through Alian you can install rpm programs on ubuntu too ;)
[13:02] <Lynx_> Hi! Could someone help me getting my microphoen to work with skype? It works okay otherwise, I can hear miself through the speakers, but skype cant. Sound output works.
[13:02] <Kovert> !automount
[13:02] <Kovert> why wont kubuntu automajically see my windows disk
[13:02] <Kovert> sda
[13:03] <holyguyver> !nt3g
[13:03] <Kovert> !NTF3G
[13:03] <susan> that should be installed by default
[13:04] <holyguyver> !info nt3g
[13:04] <l_r> hello
[13:04] <holyguyver> !info ntf3g
[13:04] <holyguyver> Well then
[13:04] <woodefec> how to run a filebrowser in superuser mode?
[13:04] <Kovert> !info automount
[13:04] <woodefec> on Live cd
[13:04] <susan> ntfs_3g
[13:05] <holyguyver> Wood try going into terminal & typing sudo su konqueror
[13:05] <holyguyver> !info ntfs-3g
[13:05] <susan> bingo
[13:05] <holyguyver> There you go Kovert
[13:05] <woodefec> holyguyver: i tried sudo konqueror but not sudo su konqueror
[13:05] <Kovert> holyguyver: wasn't for me :-(
[13:06] <woodefec> the option u gave me doesnt work
[13:06] <woodefec> holyguyver:  and on sudo konqueror it later cannot communicate with klauncher
[13:06] <woodefec> so no file browsing in su mode
[13:07] <holyguyver> I do it all the time & that cammand works for me
[13:08] <holyguyver> Hello, for some reason Kopete has not been letting me sign into yahoo all day, is happening to anyone else, & how can I fix this? I am running Kopete from KDE3 on Hardy.
[13:10] <woodefec> it doesnt here
[13:10] <woodefec> ok, i gotta go
[13:10] <woodefec> will run it with old suse settings and delete them if it runs at all
[13:10] <holyguyver> Gute Nackt
[13:11] <holyguyver> So any help for me? :'(
[13:11] <holyguyver> Anyone here used Kopete
[13:11] <holyguyver> ?
[13:13] <Kovert> for a ntfs drive what am i missig here? mount /dev/sda /media/windows? asks file type?
[13:13] <bascule> -t ntfs
[13:14] <lepke> /dev/sda is ur harddrive not ur partition
[13:14] <bascule> that too:)
[13:14] <lepke> should be something like /dev/sda1
[13:14] <Kovert> thanks to both
[13:16] <holyguyver> Endlich Nacht. Kein Stern zu sehen. Der Mond versteckt sich, denn ihm graut vor mir. Kein Licht im Weltenmeer. Kein falscher Hoffnungsstrahl. Nur die Stille. Und in mir die Schattenbilder meiner Qual. Das Korn war golden und der Himmel klar. Sechzehnhundertsiebzehn, als es Sommer war. Wir lagen im flüsternden Gras. Ihre Hand auf meiner Haut war zärtlich und warm.
[13:16] <bascule> !de
[13:16] <holyguyver> Danke
[13:17] <danub_> how do i map my windows key to open the kde menu?
[13:18] <woodefec> hey
[13:18] <Kovert> !ge
[13:18] <woodefec> during install, the installer of kubuntu 8.10 didnt ask me ONCE about ROOT PWD
[13:18] <Kovert> !gr
[13:18] <woodefec> so how do i get one?
[13:19] <bascule> !root
[13:19] <woodefec> i am already on the installed system, with no root pwd
[13:20] <danub_> anyone know how to map the windows key to open the kde menu?
[13:21] <woodefec> no way
[13:21] <woodefec> i want me root user !
[13:21] <Kovert> sudo bash
[13:22] <bascule> no sudo -i then passwd
[13:22] <holyguyver> !debian|woodefec
[13:22] <bascule> but you don't really want a rot user, you just think you do
[13:24] <holyguyver> bascule I have been using Linux for 5 years I & have to disagree, sometimes they do want root badly & will switch to debian or else hotwire their ubuntu to get it :p
[13:25] <danub_> yeah, i needed my root
[13:25] <bascule> well I have also got 5 years under my belt, no root user for 2
[13:26] <holyguyver> & I have hotwired my system so that I do have root :p
[13:26] <danub_> i mean sudo is fine, but i dont like usin the sudo all the time
[13:26] <bascule> and what did that give you that sudo wouldn't
[13:26]  * bascule has had this argument 676876876876876 times
[13:26] <holyguyver> bascule ease of use, less time wasted, & less sacurity.
[13:27] <bascule> sudo -i <-- ?
[13:27] <danub_> bascule: su
[13:27] <danub_> lol
[13:27] <danub_> 4 less characters to type :)
[13:27] <bascule> I can set passwordless in /etc/sudoers
[13:27] <danub_> yeah, but you still have to type sudo
[13:27] <bascule> and so on and on and on for the next 7000 lines :)
[13:28] <bascule> and you have to type su <decent password>
[13:28] <danub_> yeah but i only have to do it once...
[13:28] <bascule> 13:27:03 < bascule> sudo -i <-- ?
[13:29] <danub_> when i start my lappy, f1 becomes root and stay's that way till i restart
[13:29] <danub_> what is the --i switch for?
[13:29] <danub_> -i
[13:29] <bascule> man sudo
[13:30] <bascule> alternatively, type it in and see
[13:30] <danub_> lol instead of a quick answer, he refers me to man sudo... wow
[13:30] <holyguyver> or you could just set up kubuntu to log you in as root always & be constantly in root with your system completely open :)
[13:30] <bascule> what I was really saying there was 'You think root is beter than sudo yet you know not what sudo can do.'
[13:30] <holyguyver> Sudo can do anything root can do.
[13:31] <ralpho> I use both because its my computer i take my chances
[13:31] <danub_> sudo = su do... or  runas /user:admin in windows
[13:32] <bascule> well in a gui you will want kdesudo for runas equivalance
[13:32] <holyguyver> See Bascule we know exactly what sudo is.
[13:32] <danub_> i know what sudo does... just because i dont know/care to know all the switchs available doesn't mean i am somehow less competent on sudo's capabilities. it just means i dont know very nook and cranny of a root workaround
[13:32] <holyguyver> You can know what it is & still dislike it :p
[13:33] <danub_> bascule: no... in windows i use runas /user:admin from the dos prompt for commandline administration... not in the gui
[13:33] <bascule> 13:27:57 < bascule> and so on and on and on for the next 7000 lines :)
[13:34] <holyguyver> Sudo apt-get remove bascule
[13:34] <danub_> it basically boils down to "different strokes for different folks"
[13:34] <holyguyver> Sudo apt-get install danub
[13:35] <holyguyver> Sudo apt-get autoclean holyguyver
[13:35] <holyguyver> Am I doing it right?
[13:35] <danub_> yes, enabling the root account is less secure, but if no one but me is using it, and i dont leave security holes open to be exploited by having the root account enabled, its not that much of a security risk. as you said... sudo does the exact same thing su does...
[13:36] <danub_> well that would depend on what your trying to do i suppose
[13:36] <danub_> so where was i before i got side tracked...
[13:37] <danub_> ahh yes... mapping the windows key to open the kde menu... any ideas?
[13:37] <Dragnslcr> danub_- as far as I know, you can't
[13:37] <holyguyver> I was trying to remove bascule & aparently it worked as after I did that he stopped talking :p
[13:37] <danub_> it seems that any keys i map dont seem to hold. i have read that the khotkeys profile is goofed or something inthe kde4.1
[13:38] <danub_> Dragnslcr: well thats not the answer i was looking for....
[13:38] <danub_> :P
[13:38]  * bascule is still here
[13:38] <Kovert> !katapult
[13:38] <Dragnslcr> I don't think X and/or KDE can handle only a metakey for a keyboard shortcut
[13:38] <danub_> waht about you bascule? you know how to map it?
[13:38] <holyguyver> Sudo apt-get remove bascule -perge
[13:38] <Kovert> !info katapult
[13:38]  * bascule is a pinned package
[13:39] <danub_> sudo apt-get remove --purge >package> holyguyver
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[13:39] <holyguyver> sudo apt-get removie --purge bascule
[13:40] <holyguyver> crap typo :p
[13:40] <danub_> lol yeah you seem to have a few of those lately
[13:40] <holyguyver> sudo apt-get remove --purge bascule
[13:41] <danub_> ok, well here's another question that i have looked into but couldn't figure out... why are my icons all the same after i did an apt-get install ubuntu-desktop?
[13:41] <bascule> danub_: you can't, it is seen as a modifier key
[13:41] <danub_> it seems that all the currently running application icons are all the same. they all look like the computer icon with the plug symbol
[13:42] <holyguyver> sudo apt-get remove --purge -f bascule
[13:42] <holyguyver> I think that will remove pinned packages :p
[13:42] <bascule> /ignore holyguyver
[13:42] <danub_> kopete, rythombox, knetwork manager, battery meter, pidgin, etc
[13:42] <holyguyver>  Hello, for some reason Kopete has not been letting me sign into yahoo all day, is happening to anyone else, & how can I fix this? I am running Kopete from KDE3 on Hardy.
[13:43] <danub_> holyguyver: nope, i logged in just fine
[13:43] <danub_> but im on intrepid
[13:43] <holyguyver> danub, well how about on Hardy?
[13:43] <danub_> i dont use hardy so how could i answer that question?
[13:43] <holyguyver> LIVECD?
[13:44] <danub_> im on a netbook, no cd-rom
[13:44] <danub_> and i dont have a flash drive on me
[13:44] <mdjs> hi, i'm new in ubuntu, and can't write wery good in english
[13:44] <holyguyver> Guten Tag
[13:44] <danub_> salut mdjs
[13:44] <holyguyver> Hola
[13:45] <mdjs> wen i restart my computer it no open a desktop
[13:45] <Kovert> !sp
[13:45] <_lumm> !it
[13:45] <mdjs> it's open with text
[13:45] <Kovert> !sa
[13:45] <_lumm> mdjs where are u from ?:P
[13:46] <holyguyver> mdjs, what is your native language?
[13:46] <mdjs> spanish
[13:46] <danub_> what do you mean it no open a desktop?
[13:46] <holyguyver> !es
[13:46] <danub_> #kubuntu-es
[13:46] <danub_> oops
[13:46] <Kovert> !piglatin
[13:46] <mdjs> no it's open inmode text, and I don't know how can i do for open in desktop
[13:47] <holyguyver> We tried talking to him in German, Arabic, & Spanish before he told us he spoke Spanish :p
[13:47] <danub_> mdjs, you have to use plasmoid plugin to get the desktop shown
[13:47] <mdjs> ok i'm in spanish language, thanks for all
[13:47] <mdjs> see you
[13:47] <danub_> ohla
[13:47] <Kovert> gracias
[13:47] <marcus_> Hello everyone.
[13:47] <danub_> hello marcus_
[13:48] <marcus_> I was wandering how I'd go about compiling KDE 1.1 on my machine, strange as it sounds.
[13:48] <holyguyver> Marcus but 3.5 works great on older hardware.
[13:48] <Kovert> marcus_: why do you think it strange (rolling eyes)
[13:49] <danub_> wow... well since bascule is a pinned package, he has been around for awhile and im guessing he can help you with that one :)
[13:49] <shadowww> i need some help..
[13:49] <danub_> with?
[13:49] <marcus_> Yeah, I know, but I'd like to see KDE 1.1
[13:50] <shadowww> how to run bash something.run with full permission?
[13:50] <Kovert> !help
[13:50] <marcus_> Just t o say, "This is where it all started".
[13:50] <danub_> shadowww: sudo <bashfile>
[13:50] <marcus_> Just to say*
[13:50] <danub_> marcus_: wants it for nostalgia purposes
[13:50] <holyguyver> Marcus, it is nothing magical.
[13:50] <shadowww> sudo bash something.run seems to not work
[13:51] <danub_> same reason i have an old windows 95 laptop at home i cant bring myself to throw out
[13:51] <bascule> marcus_: the library dependencies required to compile it are going to be near impossible to get installed and working I think
[13:51] <shadowww> i got error that something.run do not exist
[13:51] <Tm_T> shadowww: just "sudo ./something.run"
[13:51] <shadowww> but without sudo its ok
[13:51] <marcus_> bascule: Why, because they're all out of date or something?
[13:51] <bascule> yeah
[13:51] <danub_> marcus_: yeah... wayyyyy outta date
[13:52] <marcus_> danub_: I can KDE's been going for a few years now...
[13:52]  * Kovert is installing knoppmyth
[13:52] <shadowww> nope, still nothing
[13:52] <bascule> it'll want qt1 or somethign and qt1 will want glibc 1.2 and it'll want binutils 0.6 etc etc like that
[13:52] <marcus_> danub_: I can imagine*
[13:52] <danub_> yea, but you would have to find all the dependancies for kde1.1 and the source for it
[13:52] <shadowww> how it is possible that command works without sudo, but doesnt with it? :/
[13:53] <danub_> shadowww: what directory is the file located in?
[13:53] <bascule> sudo -e sh ./foo.sh
[13:53] <shadowww> desktop
[13:53] <marcus_> shadowww: depends on whether you're pointing to the right location
[13:53] <shadowww> well location is same whetare i use sudo or not
[13:53] <marcus_> shadowww: if in doubt, use "sudo su".
[13:53] <bascule> not e :)
[13:54] <danub_> shadowww: cd into your desktop directory
[13:54] <shadowww> i am in my desktop dir all the time
[13:54] <danub_> then run the sudo ./filename command
[13:54] <danub_> ok and the error it gives you is that there is no such file
[13:54] <danub_> ?
[13:54] <lolz> heyas,  i want to which is better: windows xp first partition and linux second partition  or  linux first partition and windows xp second partition.
[13:54] <lolz> ?
[13:55] <marcus_> lolz: There's a difference...?
[13:55] <holyguyver> Marcus if it is for nostalgia's sake you could always install a theme that makes kde 3.5 or kde4 look like kde1.
[13:55] <shadowww> export SETUP_CDROM=
[13:55] <shadowww> Verifying archive integrity...tail: cannot open `+6' for reading: No such file or directory
[13:55] <shadowww> Error in check sums 2085786793 4007534314
[13:55] <lolz> marcus_ would xp have problems with c: drive if i install it in second partition ?
[13:55] <maveas> Someone with a link to a good "newbie: how to use shell"? :)
[13:55] <Kovert> lolz: 2 disks one for each
[13:55] <shadowww> ignore export SETUP_CDROM..
[13:55] <maveas> .. guide..
[13:55] <danub_> ok then its most likely the file your looking for in the bash file isn't there
[13:56] <shadowww> but it works without sudo lol
[13:56] <bascule> marcus_: http://linuxcommand.org
[13:56] <marcus_> lolz: It would be fine with C:\ (it's own partition), but it wouldn't be able to see the Linux partition.
[13:56] <holyguyver>  Hello, for some reason Kopete has not been letting me sign into yahoo all day, is happening to anyone else, & how can I fix this? I am running Kopete from KDE3 on Hardy.
[13:56] <shadowww> problem is that i run installer without sudo but than installer cant make dir ..
[13:56] <danub_> shadowww: how manyh lines is the bash file?
[13:57] <lolz> marcus_ thats all i wanted to know thnx dude but yeh it will see the linux partition if i install fs-drive in windows
[13:57] <shadowww> umm not sure
[13:57] <lolz> marcus: http://www.fs-driver.org/
[13:57] <j2daosh> in the shell do a wc -l <bashfile>
[13:57] <j2daosh> tell me how many lines
[13:58] <maveas> bascule: thanks for the link mate :)
[13:58] <shadowww> 22554
[13:58] <j2daosh> ok, nevermind the copy paste into a pm idea
[13:58] <shadowww> xD
[13:58] <holyguyver> :'(
[13:58] <j2daosh> what is this installer for?
[13:59] <frozzenfire> hey guys i need some help here
[13:59] <shadowww> unreal tournament 99
[13:59] <bascule> maveas: welcome :)
[13:59] <j2daosh> ahh
[13:59] <holyguyver> frozzenfire, only if you help me first :p
[13:59] <frozzenfire> on my other system i am installed kubuntu again but there is some problems connecting to the internet
[13:59] <frozzenfire> i have no idea why because i just connected to this computer and everything works fine
[14:00] <frozzenfire> got me an HP Pavilion elite m9426f PC
[14:00] <marcus_> frozzenfire: KDE 4.1 or KDE 3.5.10?
[14:00] <bascule> shadowww: will the installer not allow you to install it to /home/you (UT 2003 did)
[14:00] <frozzenfire> umm leme check one sec
[14:01] <frozzenfire> kde 4.1 proly because it says i need like 200 files to update but leme be sure
[14:01] <frozzenfire> system reboting right now
[14:02] <holyguyver> marcus_, not going to help me?
[14:02] <marcus_> holyguyver: Sorry, I don't use Yahoo! IM.
[14:02] <holyguyver> What do you use?
[14:03] <marcus_> holyguyver: Skype, but I'll use Kopete for MSN.
[14:03] <j2daosh> holyguyver: just use pidgin
[14:03] <marcus_> holyguyver: The problem can only really be with one of two things: the first being the server; the second being the Yahoo! plugin.
[14:03] <holyguyver> j2daosh, no can do, dealing with webcams here.
[14:04] <j2daosh> lol no one wants to see your ugly mug, use pidgin :P
[14:04] <marcus_> >.<'
[14:04] <Tm_T> j2daosh: erm
[14:04] <holyguyver> j2daosh, not my webcam, me watching a girl's webcam.
[14:04] <j2daosh> hmm
[14:04] <Tm_T> !guidelines > j2daosh
[14:06] <j2daosh> yeah i will get to that in a few minutes Tm_T. holyguyver do you know your offline?
[14:06] <shadowww> tried in f1 mode and failed again.. who suggested that? :D
[14:06] <j2daosh> like it gives you an error when you try to change your status to online?
[14:07] <j2daosh> me shadowww
[14:07] <j2daosh> back to pm
[14:07] <shadowww> aye.. i had trouble leaving f1 mnode also xD
[14:07] <holyguyver> j2daosh, yes it does give me an error saying it cannot connect to the server.
[14:08] <Tm_T> j2daosh: appreciate (:)
[14:09] <j2daosh> im not sure what the is Tm_T :), holyguyver, ping the yahoo server to see if the one your trying to hit is up
[14:10] <holyguyver> After 22 hours it is finally working now *pulls out hair*
[14:10] <j2daosh> lol
[14:10] <Tm_T> haha
[14:10] <Tm_T> holyguyver: you know what? prolly broken servers or so
[14:10] <j2daosh> you have been sitting here asking and asking and asking, but you didn't check lol
[14:10] <marcus_> That must be embarrassing...
[14:11] <Tm_T> j2daosh: you cannot check if their servers are broken
[14:11] <Tm_T> though that's the most typical reason with MSN atleast
[14:11] <holyguyver> j2daosh, marcus_ I have been checking this whole time, it didn't start working until this most recent time.
[14:11] <BluesKaj> hiyas
[14:12] <j2daosh> Tm_T: if the server isn't accepting a connection, its broke :P
[14:12] <marcus_> Anyway, another problem: sometimes the plasma desktop shows noise where a window has been sat for a long time or when switching desktops. It goes away when the desktop has focus and resfreshes.
[14:12] <marcus_> Is that a known bug or something?
[14:12] <Tm_T> j2daosh: oh, it's not always that simple
[14:12] <Tm_T> j2daosh: there's not just one server, or just one possible breakage
[14:14] <j2daosh> yeah its not that simple, thats not the end all test, but it would give him a place to start. no connection, well you know exactly what it is :P
[14:14] <Tm_T> j2daosh: ...hist own net connection?
[14:14]  * Tm_T hides
[14:15] <j2daosh> if you can connect, then you atleast know its not the load balancer and its possible different servers are up... and we could go from there
[14:15] <Tm_T> anyway, going to offtopic (:
[14:15] <j2daosh> rightie oh then. im going to have a schmoke and a pand cake
[14:17] <gekkoo> anybody knows a traffic monitor where i can see the actual down/up network traffic? (kde or console application)
[14:18] <bascule> !info iptraf | gekkoo
[14:18] <marcus_> gekkoo: I think "System Monitor" does that.
[14:18] <marcus_> gekkoo: Never mind, I was wrong.
[14:18] <gekkoo> bascule: thanks
[14:18] <bascule> iptraf is console, nice little curses thing
[14:18] <gekkoo> marcus_: thanks anyway ;)
[14:21] <snikker> i'm tring to compile kernel from ubuntu source, but when i type "make-kpkg clean", i've got "make[1]: *** No rule to make target `/usr/src/linux/arch/xen/Makefile'.  Stop.", i'm under amd64. What's wrong?
[14:22] <bascule> the Makefile is wrong :)
[14:23] <bascule> I guess you reconfigured it?
[14:23] <snikker> bascule: but the Makefile comes with the source, and i've used the .config file from my /boot directroy...
[14:23] <bascule> often the patches that are applied to a distro kernel are quite intertwined if you reconfig the kernel it can cause funny breaks
[14:24] <bascule> ok
[14:24] <desktop> opa! boa tarde
[14:24] <bascule> I never compile distro kernels, I always use kernel.org sources, distro kernels are always a pain to rebuild
[14:25] <desktop> primeira vez que uso IRC ... preciso de um help para instalar uma webcam no ubuntu 8.10 ... como me conecto a uma sala especifica ... ou sei la o que...rs alguem pode me dar uma ajuda para como ser mais eficiente em encontrar ajuda aqui?
[14:25] <bascule> in english?
[14:26] <stdin> !br | desktop
[14:27] <snikker> bascule: mmm... i've used ubuntu source, because i want build a kernel package in the debian way with my config, but it doesn't work... now i think how they build it?
[14:27] <frozenfire> hi
[14:27] <desktop> somebody can help me? I am from brazil anda need help to instalation of my webcan in kubuntu 8.10 ... please ... this is the first time that I use IRC... somebody can help me
[14:27] <frozenfire> ok i got the internet to work on my new system but i have to manually do it everytime i log on idk what to do
[14:28] <frozenfire> and i cannot use add/remove program for some reason
[14:28] <desktop> ???????????
[14:28] <frozenfire> all the packages are grayed out
[14:28] <bascule> snikker: I wish I could help but I have never compiled an ubuntu kernel, the xen fail is familiar to me, I am sure I have seen it before, you have missed xen out in the config I would guess
[14:29] <BluesKaj> !pt | desktop
[14:30] <desktop> how can I conect in this room?
[14:30] <desktop> is the first time that I conect in IRC
[14:30] <j2daosh> ok, im back
[14:30] <snikker> bascule: i don't need xen, btw i don't have edited my original /boot/config file, so it shuold compile without any error, i'm wrong? What can i do?
[14:31] <kenot> do you know how to chat with webcam
[14:31] <BluesKaj> desktop , type ,  /join #ubuntu-br
[14:31] <j2daosh> so what have i missed?
[14:31] <desktop> thanksssssssssss rsrsrs
[14:31] <bascule> snikker: remove all references to xen in the config 'make menucinfig'
[14:32] <j2daosh> anyone know how to close pm windows in irssi? i tried /leave but its not a channel and i think that /close closes the application
[14:32] <bascule> menuconfig*
[14:32] <bascule> j2daosh: /wc
[14:32] <bascule> /window close
[14:32] <snikker> bascule: ok, now i try
[14:32] <j2daosh> ahh
[14:32] <j2daosh> that would make sense :P
[14:32] <j2daosh> thank you
[14:33] <bascule> welcome, there is also /window kill
[14:33] <j2daosh> the wc did what i needed :)
[14:33] <bascule> I think /unquery works too
[14:33] <bascule> it does :)
[14:33] <j2daosh> why 3 things to close a window?
[14:34] <frozenfire> hey guys when i bought this computer it had vista 64bit installed and my kubuntu is standard personal version u think that might be why i am getting soo much problems with the net connections and such?
[14:34] <j2daosh> thats alittle over redundant imo
[14:34] <bascule> irssi :) /wc is an alias to /window close
[14:34] <j2daosh> frozenfire: did you install the 54 bit ubuntu?
[14:34] <bascule> /unquery wont close chans so: /foreach window /unquery
[14:34] <marcus_> frozenfire: I don't think so, the processor doesn't have anything to do with your internet connection...
[14:35] <j2daosh> what exactly is happening frozenfire?
[14:35] <frozenfire> marcus_: well im on the new system its not just the internet connection the package manager and all that wont work either
[14:36] <frozenfire> j2daosh: well i cannot install anything the internet connection is messing up and have to manually config it every time and updates wont work
[14:36] <j2daosh> eth or wlan?
[14:36] <frozenfire> eth
[14:36] <adder> hello
[14:37] <j2daosh> i think the apt might be messed up because you have no internet connection and you did a apt-get update so it doesn't have access to any of the packages
[14:37] <marcus_> frozenfire: If the internet connection doesn't work, the the package manager automatically won't work...
[14:37] <frozenfire> like i can speak on irc i can surf the web but thats about it
[14:37] <adder> i dont understand how to register my nick...
[14:37] <j2daosh> well that doesn't make sense...
[14:37] <marcus_> frozenfire: Have you got a firewall installed?
[14:37] <frozenfire> marcus_: yea but im on this new system speaking to u right now lol
[14:37] <BluesKaj> !register
[14:37] <frozenfire> marcus_: dont think soo unless it installs by defualt
[14:37] <frozenfire> marcus_: fresh install right here
[14:38] <marcus_> frozenfire: Well, I was thinking more about a hardware firewall...
[14:38] <maveas> Guys, I'm a total newb to linux - do I understand it right if "make" reads from an install file which tells "make" where all the apps files should be copied to? and how to config the new app?
[14:38] <marcus_> frozenfire: you know, a router that comes with a firewall or something.
[14:38] <frozenfire> marcus_: i have no clue proly not tho
[14:38] <adder> ok, thanks alot
[14:38] <adder> :_)
[14:38] <j2daosh> marcus_: nah, if he can chat irc and surf the web, it wouldn't be a hardware firewall i dont think
[14:38] <frozenfire> marcus_: yea i got netgear but it works fine with my other system that has kubuntu as well
[14:38] <bascule> frozenfire: I know why, if you manually config the network and have knetwork manager running all the kapps think they are not conected, kill knetwork manager on a manulally configed network it'll work
[14:39] <snikker> bascule: xen support was enabled in "Processor type and features --> Paravirtualized guest support". i've disabled it.. now seem to work. Thank you :)
[14:39] <bascule> cool, you are welcome :)
[14:39] <marcus_> maveas: if you're completely knew, you should try to avoid compiling software for now. Try using .deb files as often as possible.
[14:39] <frozenfire> bascule: humm worth a try i guess thanks mate leme try that and see
[14:40] <marcus_> maveas: or .rpm files, depending on what you're using.
[14:40] <bascule> frozenfire: just right-click quit knetworkmanager thingy in the bar (you probably know this)
[14:40] <maveas> marcus_: hihi, I don't even know what "make" does.. just read it from a guide to install some drivers for my wlan
[14:40] <j2daosh> maveas: u have atheros wlan card huh
[14:41] <maveas> No, Ralink
[14:41] <maveas> RT61
[14:41] <j2daosh> ahh
[14:41] <BluesKaj> frozenfire, are you dual booting with vista ...I've heard reports that vista rescue partition will interfere with incoming and outgoing net traffic but I dunno why
[14:41] <frozenfire> bascule: yes but after that how would i manually config it system settings --> network?
[14:41] <marcus_> maveas: compiling drivers? Ouch.
[14:41] <bascule> frozenfire: however you did it now .. ?
[14:41] <j2daosh> well in order to use make you need to apt-get install build-essential
[14:41] <maveas> Ok, compiling drivers then, went ok anyway :)
[14:41] <frozenfire> BluesKaj: oo no i wanted to do that but then i just read some forums about it i dident do it who compleatly wiped out vista
[14:42] <maveas> j2daosh: yeah, I did - and all went well, but I'm just trying to understand the commands.. :)
[14:42] <frozenfire> bascule: i manually configured using knetwork
[14:42] <j2daosh> ahh
[14:42] <bascule> hmmmm
[14:42] <j2daosh> well you can always google "compiling in linux"
[14:42] <BluesKaj> frozenfire, how did you wipe vista , with Gparted ?
[14:42] <j2daosh> im sure you will find a tut on it
[14:43] <maveas> Yeah
[14:43] <frozenfire> BluesKaj: during partition told kubuntu to use entire disk space and it did the work.. i hope atleast lol
[14:43] <maveas> It's a whole new world - a good one. :)
[14:43] <j2daosh> lol
[14:44] <marcus_> maveas: welcome! :P
[14:44] <bascule> maveas: make is a command part of the gnu automake tools to ease compiling stuff, it reads directions from a makefile and compiles things as per the instructions
[14:44] <maveas> I've been a sad windows-geek for years which got to my nerves yesterday :P
[14:44] <BluesKaj> ahh frozenfire , the vista rescue partiton may still exist beside the swap partiton
[14:45] <frozenfire> BluesKaj: oo the rescue part i formated that the day i got the system... it was taking out too much room
[14:45] <marcus_> *facepalm*
[14:45] <bascule>  did killing knetworkmanager get the kapps back online though?
[14:45] <maveas> bascule: thanks for hightlightning me - just what I needed :)
[14:45] <wunnymush> why isn't my emailadress valid? it's a msn adress :/
[14:46] <bascule> valid for what?
[14:46] <wunnymush> register nick
[14:46] <frozenfire> BluesKaj: well besides the internet even my wine installer and all that isent working maybe since my processor is for 64 bit i should try and install that what do u think?
[14:46] <marcus_> frozenfire: well, have you got the version of WINE from http://winehq.org?
[14:46] <bascule> wunnymush: ?? /msh nickserv register <password> you@foo.com
[14:47] <bascule> msg I mean not msh
[14:47] <BluesKaj> frozenfire, sudo apt-get install ia32
[14:47] <wunnymush> ok, i would try that, thanks
[14:47] <bascule> replace you@foo.com with the msn address of course :)
[14:47] <BluesKaj> frozenfire, ia32 helps to run 32 bit apps on a 64 bit installation
[14:48] <marcus_> BluesKaj: but doesn't the 32 bit install work on a 64 bit machine anyway?
[14:49] <frozenfire> BluesKaj: oo im on a 32bit installation right now thats why i think i might be facing problems
[14:49] <frozenfire> BluesKaj: god this is like a laundry list of problems... dident face any of this on my previous systemlol
[14:49] <BluesKaj> sorry frozenfire , I thought you had a 64 bit install
[14:50] <frozenfire> BluesKaj:
[14:50] <frozenfire> frozenfire@frozenfire:~$ sudo apt-get install ia32
[14:50] <frozenfire> [sudo] password for frozenfire:
[14:50] <frozenfire> Reading package lists... Done
[14:50] <frozenfire> Building dependency tree
[14:50] <frozenfire> Reading state information... Done
[14:50] <frozenfire> E: Couldn't find package ia32
[14:50] <frozenfire> frozenfire@frozenfire:~$
[14:50] <frozenfire> BluesKaj: for any install im trying to do thats what i get
[14:50] <marcus_> frozenfire: that's because you've run "sudo apt-get update" when not connected to the internet.
[14:50] <BluesKaj> frozenfire, can you open adept at all ?
[14:50] <maveas> is build-essentials a "must have"?
[14:51] <maveas> and what is it?
[14:51] <VirtualJack> how do i install the latest nvidia drivers in hardy ?  envyng has quite old ones.
[14:51] <frozenfire> BluesKaj: yea i have a 64 bit system with 32 bit kubuntu install .... and no i cannot even open abept
[14:51] <marcus_> maveas: it is if you want to compile drivers.
[14:51] <bascule> it's a meta package to pull in all the stuff you need to compile things
[14:51] <frozenfire> BluesKaj: it opens with everything blank
[14:51] <marcus_> frozenfire: try fixing the internet connection, then running, "sudo apt-get update" again.
[14:52] <x_link> Hi!
[14:52] <maveas> marcus_: thanks, you guys are great helpers :-)
[14:52] <x_link> I don't find Kubuntu 8.10 alternate on kubuntu.org.
[14:52] <x_link> I just downloaded it from another place, but during the installation it gets frozen at 6%
[14:52] <frozenfire> marcus_: thats the funny thing.. the internet with manual config is working for some applications like this irc but not for most other
[14:53] <bascule> frozenfire: if you run 'sudo apt-get update' now from a shell, what happens?
[14:54] <frozenfire> bascule: that works... i try to install something else.. like lets say for testing sudo apt-get install g++ .. fails... its like my internet has a mind of its own
[14:55] <bascule> what irc app are you using?
[14:56] <marcus_> Anyway, bit busy now...
[14:56] <marcus_> see you all later.
[14:56] <marcus_> !help
[14:56] <marcus_> Oop
[14:57] <BluesKaj> frozenfire, I pm'd you
[14:57] <larsen_> '/ctcp {cosmic-filmz}-{47682} xdcc send #6
[14:58] <frozenfire> BluesKaj: yep i got it :)
[14:58] <BluesKaj> frozenfire, ok, all of it ...it also includes third party repositories
[15:00] <maveas> Someone who knows RutilT?
[15:02] <cuznt> !audacity
[15:02] <maveas> !rutilt
[15:02] <cuznt> is there an audacity help channel?
[15:04] <bascule> #audacity, it is pretty empty though
[15:06] <cuznt> ty
[15:06] <cuznt> i did list and wow the channels....
[15:09] <BluesKaj> cuznt, audacity is in the third party repos, i think
[15:10] <cuznt> meaning?
[15:10] <cuznt> i have it installed
[15:10] <cuznt> i had sound card issues
[15:10] <cuznt> got them fixed
[15:11] <cuznt> and now audacity wont record
[15:11] <cuznt> my input options changed dramatically
[15:13] <VirtualJack> anyone who can tell me how to install the current or beta drivers in kubuntu 8.04 ? envyng has installed 173.14.12...
[15:14] <adi_> hi all
[15:15] <adi_> where do you control the touchpad of a laptop in kde4?
[15:15] <adi_> the top right corner of my touchpad is acting strange
[15:15] <adi_> it opens alink in firefox
[15:16] <adi_> im on kubuntu kde 4
[15:16] <adi_> kubuntu interpid
[15:17] <adi_> but there is no app to control the touchpad
[15:17] <adi_> any idea?
[15:21] <bascule> you used to be able to use shmconfig, it is a manual config job
[15:21] <bascule> !touchpad
[15:22] <bascule> lsynaptics disappeared from the repos, it was unmaintained
[15:22] <bascule> ksynaptics*
[15:24] <zhangping> ko
[15:25] <BUGabundo> hi
[15:25] <BUGabundo> who is the mantainer of kdepim ?
[15:25] <winud> Hello Every body
[15:25] <cuznt> !kdepim
[15:25] <BUGabundo> LOL
[15:25] <winud> I winud
[15:26] <wazon> hi
[15:26] <anton_> Hey People. I have a question concerning playing a video
[15:26] <wazon> could someone help me with a dovecot problem?
[15:26] <BluesKaj> !info kdepim
[15:27] <anton_> It's an avi that I downloaded. When I open the file with kaffeine it says that My media player cant play/decode the file.
[15:27] <anton_> Its named ---Svcd.avi
[15:28] <BluesKaj> !libdvdcss | anton_
[15:28] <anton_> Thanks ubottu =D I'll check it out
[15:28] <harsh> Hello
[15:28] <BluesKaj> ubottu, is an infobot
[15:28] <BluesKaj> hehe
[15:29] <harsh> Can anyone tell me how to install wine on ubuntu 8.10
[15:29] <anton_> sudo apt-get install wine?
[15:29] <BUGabundo> anton_: was faster
[15:29] <BUGabundo> lol
[15:29] <anton_> wiho
[15:29] <BluesKaj> sudo apt-get install wine is correct
[15:29] <BUGabundo> harsh: remove the question mark, of course
[15:29] <anton_> btw did a bot just diss me?
[15:29] <harsh> Thanks I will try..
[15:29] <BUGabundo> or open your vavorite GUI app for packages management
[15:29] <BUGabundo> and look for it
[15:30] <harsh> One more question
[15:30] <BluesKaj> anton_, it's an info bot we use for help purposes
[15:30] <anton_> K fair enough
[15:30] <harsh> I am installing Macforlin theme..
[15:30] <wazon> does anybody know how to put all my old mail in a dovecot server?
[15:32] <ichsan> compiz-fusion-plugins-main compiz-kde compizconfig-settings-manager emerald
[15:32] <harsh> I am getting the following error
[15:32] <harsh> the requrired GTK + theme engine is not installed
[15:33] <harsh> How to resolve this
[15:33] <BluesKaj> wazon, maybe this will help  http://lwn.net/Articles/306572/
[15:33] <sancho21> Will usb-creator remove all files in the selected partition of my usb drive?
[15:33] <BUGabundo> sancho21: it will format the entire disk
[15:33] <BUGabundo> not only partition
[15:34] <sancho21> BUGabundo: Format my entire usb drive or just a specific partition?
[15:34] <chfwiggum> !refblas
[15:34] <chfwiggum> !refblas3
[15:35] <sancho21> !usb-creator
[15:35] <harsh>  the requrired GTK + theme engine is not installed
[15:35] <harsh> How to install this on ubuntu 8.10?
[15:36] <BUGabundo> sancho21: AFAIK the all disk
[15:37] <wazon> Blueskaj: thanks. Upgrading
[15:37] <sancho21> BUGabundo: I see in http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Live_USB_creator. It is said it won't format
[15:38] <BluesKaj> wazon, hope it helps :)
[15:38] <BUGabundo> can't say for sure
[15:39] <BUGabundo> make a backup and try it, sancho21
[15:39] <sunshine> !nvidia
[15:40] <sancho21> Oh, I thought you've tried it before BUGabundo
[15:40] <sancho21> Thanks man
[15:45] <adi_> hi guys
[15:45] <wazon> ok
[15:45] <wazon> now I'm upgraded
[15:45] <wazon> Can anyone help me with the emails?
[15:45] <adi_> who is the default app for recording sound in kde4?
[15:46] <BluesKaj> adi_, K3B
[15:46] <adi_> no burning
[15:46] <adi_> just recordinf sound from mic
[15:47] <adi_> K3B does this?
[15:47] <BluesKaj> no audacity does tho
[15:47] <adi_> audacity native for kde4?
[15:47] <BluesKaj> no
[15:48] <adi_> or it just works with any
[15:48] <adi_> wm
[15:48] <BluesKaj> it's open source/cross platform
[15:48] <adi_> ah ok
[15:48] <adi_> so it will work on kubuntu interpid
[15:48] <adi_> ?
[15:49] <BluesKaj> yes, i use it for recording vinyl to my hddd then i burn to cd for my car player
[15:50] <harsh> Anyone woking as a linux admoinistrator here?
[15:51] <adi_> ok thanks blueskaj
[15:51] <pgib> hooray. I finally get to ask a support question here :-/   I just upgraded from 8.04 to 8.10.  The install seemed to work fine (I used dist-upgrade) however, when it rebooted, the system took me to the CLI
[15:52] <pgib> I realized that the path for the default-display-manger was wrong, so I canged /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[15:53] <pgib> Then it complained about the theme not being correct. So, I fixed the THEME key in /etc/default/kdm.d/20_kubuntu_default_settings
[15:54] <pgib> However, now, when I try to start KDE, there is no mouse or keyboard activity, although the keyboard works in the CLI (and Ctrl-Alt-1 works)
[15:55] <pgib> I heard I need to install xserver-xorg-input-evdev and -input-synaptic, however when I do that I get the message "dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem."
[15:56] <pgib> So... I run dpkg with those flags, and I get over 200 lines of "dpkg: dependency problems ..." where it complains about a BUNCH of packages being "not configured yet"
[15:56] <pgib> what am I supposed to do
[15:57] <pgib> It's almost like it didn't finish installing some packages. Any ideas?
[15:57] <Craftsman> You see, i have a problem...i cant install ubuntu and kubuntu....graphical package doesnt work at all...live cd isnt work too....what can i do?
[15:59] <snarkster> sounds like a video card issue
[15:59] <pgib> Craftsman, what does it mean "doesn't work"? that is pretty vague and not likely to help anyone
[16:00] <pgib> So does anyone know how I can force a recheck to have all these broken packages configured?
[16:00] <snarkster> is 4.1.3 any better than 4.1.2
[16:00] <Craftsman> it shows blue display and go to the terminal...
[16:01] <Craftsman> :(
[16:05]  * Craftsman is surprised....
[16:05] <frozenfire> BluesKaj: hey thanks a lot mate
[16:05] <pgib> It looks like my problems are rotate around dbus not being installed/configured
[16:05] <Craftsman> does anyone know what to do?
[16:05] <frozenfire> BluesKaj: i installed the 64 bit version and not only the graphics are amazing but everything seems to work :)
[16:05] <snarkster> !X
[16:06] <snarkster> !X > Craftsman
[16:07] <pgib> I guess I'll check #ubuntu
[16:07] <snarkster> oh i miss that show
[16:09] <snarkster> after installing 4.1.3 should i restart X ??
[16:09] <JontheEchidna> logging out and back in should be all that is necessary
[16:09] <snarkster> oh cool
[16:09] <snarkster> brb
[16:11] <frozenfire> hey guys anyone knows how to enable 32 bit applications on a 64 bit kubuntu version?
[16:12] <frozenfire> i types in sudo apt-get install ia32 but that is giving me an error
[16:13] <BluesKaj> what version do you have installed frozenfire ? I thought it you said it was 32 bit
[16:14] <frozenfire> BluesKaj: no i just installed the 64 bit version and it fixed all the problems i was having
[16:14] <BluesKaj> hang on frozenfire , checking
[16:14] <frozenfire> BluesKaj: 32 bit even after re instalation was causing a whole lot of problems
[16:14] <frozenfire> BluesKaj: thanks a lot mate
[16:15] <BluesKaj> can you open adept ?
[16:15] <frozenfire> yep :)
[16:15] <frozenfire> FINALLY! lol
[16:15] <BluesKaj> frozenfire, ok then click on sources
[16:16] <frozenfire> ok one sec
[16:16] <frozenfire> 95% done installing wine
[16:16] <frozenfire> ok im in sources
[16:17] <frozenfire> it says edit software sources
[16:17] <BluesKaj> frozenfire, then check all the repos except for source code , same goes for the 3rd party tab
[16:17] <frozenfire> BluesKaj: gotcha did that
[16:17] <frozenfire> BluesKaj: well it was like that allready
[16:17] <BluesKaj> yeah click on edit first
[16:17] <adi_> hi all
[16:18] <adi_> daoes anyone get skype to work in kubuntu interpid
[16:18] <frozenfire> BluesKaj: done
[16:18] <adi_> I dont have voice,sound,
[16:18] <BluesKaj> frozenfire, make sure the cdrom is not checked
[16:18] <adi_> it says : problem with playback
[16:18] <frozenfire> BluesKaj: none of them are
[16:19] <frozenfire> BluesKaj: only 3 options
[16:19] <BluesKaj> check the 3rd party ones except the cdrom
[16:19] <adi_> I played around with options but no sucsses
[16:19] <frozenfire> BluesKaj: cdrom intrepid partners and intrepid partner (source code)
[16:19] <frozenfire> BluesKaj: ok done
[16:20] <adi_> seem that I have a sound problem
[16:20] <BluesKaj> not thecdrom, leave it unchecked , cuz it will interfere
[16:20] <adi_> audacity dont record eather
[16:20] <adi_> but my amorok it playback well though...
[16:20] <frozenfire> BluesKaj: ok i did that soo 2 out of 3 selections are checked cdrom is not checked
[16:20] <adi_> I dont understand
[16:21] <adi_> any idea?
[16:21] <BluesKaj> frozenfire, now exit adept and do,  sudo apt-get update
[16:21] <vinaduro_> Hi there guys, I experiencing something very strange here
[16:22] <frozenfire> reading package lists done
[16:22] <woden1> Why can't I open a pdf file?
[16:22] <vinaduro_> I have 2 PCs, PC-A and PC-B, PC-A can ping PC-B, but PC-B can't ping PC-A. They are both on the same subnet, and they can both ping and be pinged by PC-C, any idea what could be wrong?
[16:23] <vinaduro_> all three are kubuntu btw
[16:23] <BluesKaj> frozenfire, there should be an icon in the panel , that looks like a green globe, that's the adept notifier for intrepid
[16:23] <ryanakca> woden1: what happens when you try?
[16:23] <harsh> How can I use wine on Ubuntu 8.10?
[16:23] <BluesKaj> vinaduro_, install adobe-linux or kpdf
[16:23] <frozenfire> BluesKaj: the green globe when i put cursor over it thats the internet connection thing
[16:24] <ryanakca> !wine > harsh
[16:24] <frozenfire> BluesKaj: wait is it sapose to be in the tray?
[16:24] <BluesKaj> yes
[16:24] <woden1> ryanakca:  It open in "Document Viewer" and I have an error "Unable to open document File type HTML document (text/html) is not supported"
[16:24] <ryanakca> BluesKaj: Intrepid doesn't have kpdf
[16:24] <ryanakca> woden1: Try opening it with ``Okular''
[16:24] <frozenfire> BluesKaj: dosent seem to be there
[16:25] <vinaduro_> sorry BluesKaj, but how would a PDF reader help me?
[16:25] <frozenfire> BluesKaj: but it does say i need to re boot for all the new installs i did
[16:26] <ryanakca> vinaduro_: that's more of a general Ubuntu / Linux question... you'd probably get more help on #ubuntu (We can try to help you here, but help here tends to be more KDE specific)
[16:26] <vinaduro_> oh ok, thanks I'll try there ryanakca
[16:26] <ryanakca> vinaduro_: cheers :)
[16:26] <BluesKaj> frozenfire, then open adept again and click on the adept option - fetch package list
[16:27] <woden1> How do I remove GNOME completely and install a full KDE desktop on Ubuntu?
[16:27] <BluesKaj> ok, frozenfire , then reboot :)
[16:27] <frozenfire> BluesKaj: fetch package list?
[16:27] <BluesKaj> woden1, sudo apt-get remove gnome-desktop
[16:27] <ryanakca> woden1: from the command line, ``sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop'' then once you're logged into kde, ``sudo aptitude remove ubuntu-desktop'' should remove it and all of its dependencies...
[16:28] <frozenfire> BluesKaj: oo i did that it installed something
[16:28] <BluesKaj> frozenfire, no reboot first
[16:28] <frozenfire> BluesKaj: oops
[16:28] <frozenfire> BluesKaj: lol ok leme reboot
[16:28] <idbita> The devil is greater than god clauses can often be restated to avoid such noise problems.
[16:28] <idbita> The devil is greater than god clauses can often be restated to avoid such noise problems.
[16:28] <frozenfire> BluesKaj: brb
[16:28] <ryanakca> BluesKaj: gnome-desktop isn't a package ;)
[16:29] <feeds|Asterisk> please some op ban idbita , it's a bot
[16:29] <BluesKaj> ryanakca, that's odd cuz it worked for me
[16:30] <woden1> BluesKaj, ryanakca:  What about all of the dependent GNOME packages that are orphaned or whatever, how do I clean those out?
[16:31] <frozenfire> BluesKaj: ok when i re logged it installed some language package or something
[16:32] <Tm_T> idbita: hi, wanna hug?
[16:32] <idbita> For example simplymepis 70 is based on linex but since they draw additional packages and distributes such software.
[16:32] <woden1> what's the diff between aptitude install kde and aptitude install kubuntu-desktop ?
[16:32] <BluesKaj> woden1, well, sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop ,to be safe
[16:33] <bazhang> !purekde
[16:33] <ronino> hi
[16:33] <ronino> I updated my Kubuntu Gutsy, but now the nvidia module cannot be found anymore so that X can't start with that driver, any idea?
[16:33] <BluesKaj> aptitude used to be regarded as a better apt installer / unintaller vehicle than apt , dunno if it still
[16:34] <BluesKaj> is
[16:34] <ronino> is there some log file or something to see what nvidia packages where installed before?
[16:36] <frozenfire> wow cant believe skype dont have a 64 bit version
[16:39] <BluesKaj> frozenfire, just realized ia32 is meant for Intel CPUs not AMD ..what CPU are you running?
[16:39] <frozenfire> um checking lol
[16:40] <frozenfire> intel core 2 quad q6600
[16:41] <tara> hi all
[16:41] <frozenfire> hey tara :)
[16:41] <tara> i need help with a webcam
[16:41] <tara> someone can help me?
[16:41] <tara> hi frozen
[16:41] <bazhang> !webcam
[16:41] <bazhang> check that link
[16:41] <BluesKaj> ok , then ia32 should be ok , install microcode.ctl in adept
[16:42] <frozenfire> dam ubottu that was fast
[16:42] <frozenfire> BluesKaj: ok leme try that again it was sudo apt-get install ia32 right?
[16:42] <BluesKaj> no microcode.ctl
[16:42] <frozenfire> oo ok
[16:43] <frozenfire> BluesKaj: ok done
[16:43] <ronino> is there a log file of installed and uninstalled packages?
[16:44] <thomas_> hi
[16:44] <BluesKaj> frozenfire, ok good
[16:44] <thomas_> schnee
[16:44] <woden1> What is the exact difference between kubuntu-desktop and kubuntu-kde4-desktop
[16:44] <thomas_> was ist los
[16:44] <frozenfire> BluesKaj: still says error wrong arch i386 when i try to install skype
[16:45] <Dragnslcr> woden1- what version of Kubuntu?
[16:45] <BluesKaj> woden1, depends on which version there. kde3 for older version but the default is kde4 on Intrepid
[16:46] <woden1> Dragnslcr:  8.10
[16:46] <Dragnslcr> I didn't think kubuntu-kde4-desktop was in 8.10
[16:46] <thomas_> tuss
[16:46] <woden1> Dragnslcr:  I'm trying to remove GNOME and install KDE...was following these instructions  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureKDE
[16:46] <Dragnslcr> !info kubuntu-kde4-desktop
[16:46] <woden1> Should I use some other instructions?
[16:47] <Dragnslcr> woden1- looks like that page hasn't been updated for 8.10
[16:47] <woden1> Dragnslcr:  So what's the correct way to do this?
[16:47] <Dragnslcr> For 8.10, it's kubuntu-desktop
[16:48] <BluesKaj> frozenfire, check this out http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=432295
[16:48] <woden1> Dragnslcr:  That's it?
[16:48] <Dragnslcr> kubuntu-kde4-desktop was only in 8.04
[16:48] <woden1> So how do I get rid of GNOME and all its GNOME dependencies ?
[16:49] <BluesKaj> woden1, there's a URL   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureKDE
[16:49] <bazhang> !puregnome | woden1
[16:49] <bazhang> oops
[16:49] <bazhang> !purekde | woden1
[16:49] <frozenfire> BluesKaj: ok checking
[16:49] <Dragnslcr> woden1- the basic instructions should be the same for 8.10 as 8.04
[16:50] <Dragnslcr> You just don't have a choice between KDE3 and KDE4
[16:50] <BluesKaj> frozenfire, scroll down to intrepid 8.10 install
[16:51] <frozenfire> BluesKaj: yea that download im running it right now... this is soo kool i can make all this happen in the future that is gona be soo kool :)
[16:51] <BluesKaj> Dragnslcr, it can be done but it involves reinstalling and it's quite convoluted
[16:52] <woden1> what about this?  apt-get autoremove ubuntu-desktop
[16:52] <Dragnslcr> BluesKaj- yeah, but I figured I'd stick to the simple instructions
[16:52] <bazhang> woden1, no
[16:53] <heinkel_111> Grub question: after installing a new harddisk, all my disks seem to have changed enumeration(?english word?) and name: /dev/sda1 is now /dev/sdc1 and /dev/sdb1 is of course /dev/sda1... how come my machine still boots normally?  Shouldn't I have to edit drive mappings?
[16:53] <woden1> bazhang: what's wrong with autoremove?
[16:53] <bazhang> woden1, read the !purekde link I gave you
[16:53] <woden1> I did
[16:53] <woden1> But I'm just asking wouldn't autoremove be better?
[16:54] <BluesKaj> woden1, you can try but aptitude might do it better
[16:54] <woden1> According to those instructions, I should see a large list of application to be removed, but I only see 5...
[16:54] <Jimi__Hendrix> can u guys help me with a kde4 problem?
[16:54] <frozenfire> BluesKaj: YES it worked :) thanks mate :)
[16:54] <tara> i need help with my webcam
[16:55] <tara> frozen
[16:55] <tara> on this page
[16:55] <tara> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCamerasPhilips
[16:55] <BluesKaj> frozenfire, cool :)
[16:55] <tara> there's not my webcam
[16:55] <tara> how i have to do?
[16:55] <woden1> Ok I just removed ubuntu-desktop, it took about 5 seconds.   Is that supposed to be it?
[16:55] <BluesKaj> !ask | Jimi__Hendrix
[16:55] <bazhang> woden1, no.
[16:56] <bazhang> woden1, that is only a metapackage
[16:56] <woden1> bazhang:  yea I know that.
[16:56] <tara> i'm sorry for the multiples line
[16:56] <bazhang> woden1, then why ask.
[16:56] <HappySmileMan> Will the KDE4.2 Beta packages be released for Kubuntu? It's been tagged for a few days now and should be released Tuesday
[16:56] <woden1> bazhang: I was expecting to see all of it's dependencies listed.  Why weren't they all removed?
[16:56] <Tm_T> HappySmileMan: sure, when ready
[16:56] <Tm_T> HappySmileMan: see kubuntu.org for news later
[16:57] <tara> i have a philips spc710nc how i install it? someone can help me?
[16:57] <FicaBlok38> hello i have OO3 in Kubuntu 8.10 with KDE4
[16:57] <FicaBlok38> how to change a crystal style to galaxy
[16:57] <FicaBlok38> i am really hate crystal style...
[16:57] <FicaBlok38> anybody???
[16:58] <woden1> How do I remove Ubuntu and all of the ubuntu-desktop GNOME stuff and install Kubuntu (KDE4)?
[16:58] <Hydrogen> woden1: that's been answered for you like three times
[16:58] <Hydrogen> !purekde | woden1
[16:59] <woden1> Hydrogen:  Those instructions did not work for me like I said.
[16:59] <Hydrogen> then include that in your question
[16:59] <woden1> Hydrogen:  I was supposed to see a large list of items to be removed, but I only saw 1 item (ubuntu-desktop).  And it took about 4 seconds to remove it.
[16:59] <tara> can someone help me to install my webcam?
[16:59] <Hydrogen> did you use aptitude or apt-get?
[17:00] <woden1> Hydrogen:  aptitude just like the instructions told me to
[17:00] <Hydrogen> then follow the manual instructions
[17:00] <shadowww> hey everyone.. i need some assistence. some very simple thing for u.. i belive. :)
[17:00] <BluesKaj> FicaBlok38, system settings/appearance/icons/theme
[17:00] <woden1> Hydrogen:  here is the output:  http://paste.debian.net/22099/
[17:01] <shadowww> how can i make "shortcut" of some "shell scpript" (witch is for running an apliccation) on desktop?
[17:02] <shadowww> i tried with "create new -> link to aplication  and link to location but desired aplication do not run itself in fullscreen :/
[17:03] <Dragonath> how do I remove everything related to kde4 and also set the login manager back to kde3?
[17:03] <heinkel_111> Grub question: after installing a new harddisk, all my disks seem to have changed enumeration(?english word?) and name: /dev/sda1 is now /dev/sdc1 and /dev/sdb1 is of course /dev/sda1... how come my machine still boots normally?  Shouldn't I have to edit drive mappings?
[17:03] <BluesKaj> Dragonath, 8.04 ?
[17:03] <Dragonath> yes
[17:05] <BluesKaj> you didn't remove kde3 i hope
[17:05] <FicaBlok38> BluesKaj: i ask for Open Office 3
[17:05] <Dragonath> BluesKaj: I am writing this from KDE3, I just want to clean up the mess :)
[17:05] <Dragonath> heinkel_111: grub doesn't label the drives /dev/sdc1 etc., if you look in the menu.lst file there are markings like hd(2,0) in the menu entry list
[17:06] <BluesKaj> sudo apt-get remove kde4 AFAIK :)
[17:06] <adi_> hi all
[17:06] <Dragonath> BluesKaj: that worked last time too, but the login manager still stayed kde4
[17:06] <heinkel_111> Dragonath: yes....but what about /boot/grub/device.map
[17:06] <adi_> can anyone help with sound problems in kubuntu interpid kde4
[17:06] <woden1> !purekde
[17:07] <heinkel_111> Dragonath: it contains a mapping from
[17:07] <woden1> This needs to be changed to http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde
[17:07] <BluesKaj> Dragonath, did you reboot or just relogin ?
[17:07] <adi_> I dont have any kind of sound input or output
[17:07] <heinkel_111> Dragonath: (hd0) /dev/sda
[17:07] <Dragonath> BluesKaj: I haven't removed kde4 yet, but once I do I will probably reboot
[17:07] <BluesKaj> !alsa | adi_
[17:09] <adi_> the problems is that I dont have any en
[17:09] <Dragonath> heinkel_111: has the drive that has the linux kernel on it changed labels?
[17:09] <adi_> Enable the sound system
[17:09] <heinkel_111> Dragonath: yes, but my machine still works, that is the strange thing
[17:10] <heinkel_111> I just don't understand it
[17:10] <adi_> I can see for any categories which sound card is asociated but thats all
[17:10] <tara> no one can help me with a webcam?
[17:10] <heinkel_111> I used to have my /boot/ on hardisk 0 but now it is hardisk 2 and not even on my list
[17:10] <bazhang> tara, is it supported? which webcam
[17:10] <heinkel_111> ^ Dragonath
[17:10] <pavel_> when i try to install kubuntu graphical package doesnt work....it shoes terminal and some errors such as :cant connect to X server..cant blank and enable CRTC...what should i do?
[17:11] <tara> spc710nc bazhang
[17:11] <Dragonath> heinkel_111: well I don't have any idea either :)
[17:11] <tara> is a philips webcam it's not on the supported list
[17:11] <Lupus-SLE> Good evening... I've just installed Kubuntu 8.10 and the fglrx driver for my Ati Radeon x1950XT... which works fan-daby-abolous but I'm having an issue of flickering while playing ET Quake Wars above a resolution of 800x600, I'm lead to believe there's some form of compiz running but I'm not sure how to check that or how to turn it off.
[17:12] <bazhang> tara, have you checked that cam model in supported list?
[17:12] <tara> yes
[17:12] <bazhang> tara, which app are you trying to use it with?
[17:12] <bazhang> tara, is this internal or external
[17:12] <BluesKaj> adi_, in the terminal type ' alsamixer ', make sure the Master, PCM, Line & CD are all unmuted ,by using the "M" key', then make sure the vol ctrls are at 70% or so
[17:12] <bazhang> tara, check lsusb
[17:12] <Dragonath> Lupus-SLE: try checking out the desktop effects module, I think you can find it in the menu
[17:13] <Lupus-SLE> Dragonath: Thanks
[17:13] <tara> bazhang Bus 001 Device 005: ID 0471:0330 Philips
[17:13] <bazhang> tara, what about my other questions
[17:13] <tara> in skype doesn't work
[17:14] <tara> i try installing camorama?
[17:14] <bazhang> what about cheese
[17:14] <tara> ok i install cheese only or both? tell me i need to learn :P
[17:15] <pavel_> when i try to install kubuntu graphical package doesnt work....it shoes terminal and some errors such as :cant connect to X server..cant blank and enable CRTC...what should i do?
[17:15] <bazhang> tara, as it is not supported you should try them both; also a trip to ubuntuforums to search for that model would be in order
[17:15] <bazhang> pavel_, what command did you give
[17:15] <tara> ok thanks a lot u are my friend :P
[17:16] <bazhang> pavel_, and paste.ubuntu.com with the error (NOT here)
[17:18] <bazhang> pavel_, please keep in channel
[17:31] <tj_> !gnome
[17:32] <tj_> !kde
[17:32] <tj_> How do I uninstall GNOME
[17:33] <bascule> !purekde
[17:33] <bascule> tj_: that is quite old though, but maybe still relevant
[17:36] <DaSkreech> I don't know why it annoys me that it's so hard to uninstall Gnome and so easy to uninstall KDE
[17:36] <replman> Hi! I have a windows generated textfile unter linux. When i open it in an editor, all umlauts are destroyed (replaced by a ?)
[17:37] <bascule> DaSkreech: because gnome is so much more split up than kde, I have built both from source a few times and the kdebuild is one thing really where as gnome is about 20
[17:37] <tj_> I spent all night trying to figure out how to install this one theme and didnt get it
[17:37] <DaSkreech> bascule: Yes I know that. I just don't know why it annoys me so much
[17:37] <tj_> so I gave up
[17:37] <replman> How to convert those files?
[17:38] <DaSkreech> replman: dos2unix might works
[17:38] <tj_> I like the way KDE looks ALOT better then gnome
[17:39] <bazhang> http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde tj_
[17:39] <replman> i tried apt-get install dos2unix, didn't found
[17:40] <DaSkreech> !info tofromdos
[17:40] <DaSkreech> heh
[17:40] <DaSkreech> !info tofrodos
[17:40] <woodefec> hey
[17:40] <DaSkreech> Why would they change that?
[17:41] <woodefec> is it normal for all sources of software to fail when refreshing the Adept sources?
[17:42] <bascule> no
[17:42] <woodefec> i am tryin to download the lists and none are loaded
[17:42] <woodefec> internetis working
[17:42] <woodefec> canyou help me?
[17:42] <replman> dos2unix didn't correct the umlauts
[17:42] <woodefec> previously it worked
[17:43] <bascule> maybe the mirrors you use are down for now
[17:43] <cadaverpimp> My desktop's floppy drive light remains on. There isn't anything in the drive and I just noticed this.
[17:43] <woodefec> i chose polish servers, than main servers
[17:43] <cadaverpimp> How can I check if something is trying to access my floppy drive?
[17:44] <DaSkreech> cadaverpimp: The light on the front of it blinks
[17:44] <woodefec> now it hangs on checkin the best mirror
[17:45] <cadaverpimp> DaSkreech: No. It is a steady "ON"
[17:45] <ste> hello everyone... I have an annoying problem with my kubuntu... everytime I try to watch a video it freezes randomly for about a second. no matter which player I use (mplayer, dragon...)
[17:45] <DaSkreech> woodefec: Adept does that known bug
[17:45] <ste> (kde 4.1.3) ideas?
[17:46] <replman> Ok, i changed the encoding in the editor (eclipse), now it works :-)
[17:47] <cadaverpimp> Don't know if they are related, but I can't copy a DVD with k9copy (terminates at the very end) and k3b freezes up my computer when trying to burn an ISO.
[17:48] <woodefec> no servers are working
[17:48] <oim> hello, ı have downloaded picasa 3 deb package. now how can ı install it (to kubuntu 8.10 kde4)
[17:48] <cadaverpimp> oim: sudo dpkg -i /path/to/the/picasa3.deb
[17:48] <DarkriftX> normally when i enter an sd card into my laptop, it shows on my desktop the icons for each partition, but its not doing that now (dmesg shows it though)
[17:49] <DarkriftX> what can i do to make the icons show again?
[17:49] <woodefec> please help. There is noserver or source working, i need to install my software and work
[17:49] <oim> cadaverpimp: thanks
[17:49] <woodefec> i installed kubuntu 8.10 today. Now Adept says that all sources are DOWN
[17:50] <bascule> cadaverpimp: that all sounds like a hardware issue of some nature, are you confident enough to pull the floppy cable off the board and try again with no floppy drive attatched?
[17:51] <bazhang> woodefec, paste.ubuntu.com with sources.list (NOT here)
[17:51] <oim> cadaverpimp: it works great. thank again.
[17:52] <replman> is there something like xeyes with other shapes? e.g. a cat following the mouse cursor?
[17:56] <bazhang> woodefec, in channel please
[17:57] <woodefec> bazhang: ok, no polish servers and the main server are not working for me
[17:58] <woodefec> previously it worked
[17:58] <bazhang> woodefec, paste.ubuntu.com with sources.list
[17:58] <vall> heyyy, did you all try windows?
[17:58] <vall> great OS
[17:58] <bascule> *sigh*
[17:59] <bazhang> vall, no, wrong channel
[17:59] <White_Pelican> windows? ewwww, dems fightin woids
[17:59] <vall> i recomend you windows OS
[17:59] <vall> the best
[17:59] <bazhang> !offtopic | vall
[18:00] <White_Pelican> someone kick this person please
[18:00] <LjL> no kicks on request sorry
[18:00] <LjL> nevermind
[18:00] <ikonia> sorry, that wasn't on request that was to do with him just spamming windows stuff
[18:01] <White_Pelican> ty ikonia
[18:01] <White_Pelican> :)
[18:01] <tj_> !themes
[18:01] <cadaverpimp> bascule: I just removed it. I don't use the floppy. I built this desktop back in 2004 and put it in just in case I would need it.
[18:01] <tj_> !changethemes
[18:01] <cadaverpimp> oim: NP. Glad to have helped.
[18:02] <woodefec> bazhang: http://paste.ubuntu.com/76030/ - my source.list
[18:02] <woodefec> bazhang: damn, its the german one - that is wotrking somehow
[18:02] <bascule> cadaverpimp: OK cool, let's see how that goes, a permanently on floppy light is either a back to front cable or bad cable or a bad chipset driver or a knackered board, let's hope
[18:03] <cadaverpimp> bascule: I've gone through 2 DVDs trying to burn 1 ISO.
[18:04] <bascule> well we are far from out of options yet :)
[18:05] <cadaverpimp> Here goes k9copy. It fails at the end. The good thing is that it only takes about 15 minutes for this DVD
[18:05] <cadaverpimp> Wait
[18:05] <cadaverpimp> What is KDED?
[18:05] <cadaverpimp> Whenever that goes on, it kills my amarok.
[18:06] <tj_> anyone ever installed azenis theme?
[18:08] <cadaverpimp> Is KDED supposed to be up around 95%+ of my 3.2GHz CPU?
[18:08] <bascule> cadaverpimp: I noticed something in amrok the other day it wouldn't start if .. something, k3b was running
[18:08] <bascule> no cadaverpimp it is not :)
[18:08] <cadaverpimp> bascule: Is it ok that I "killall -9 kded"?
[18:09] <bascule> I think that'll kill the desktop :)
[18:09] <cadaverpimp> Everything seems to be working.
[18:09] <bascule> there are a couple of k processes that knock kde over
[18:09] <thomas_> hi
[18:09] <cadaverpimp> Is k3b one of them?
[18:10] <tj_> hmm terminal wont open for some reason
[18:10] <thomas_> ja
[18:11] <thomas_> was ist was redet
[18:11] <bascule> cadaverpimp: no I mean like the nackgroud processes
[18:11] <cadaverpimp> Ah
[18:11] <bascule> if you kill them kde drops
[18:12] <cadaverpimp> BRB... cleaned out a few dust bunnies and I can't stop sneezing.
[18:12] <thomas_> was machst ihr
[18:12] <bascule> :)
[18:13] <tj_> hmm i jacked something up...
[18:13] <tj_> terminal wont open'
[18:14] <White_Pelican> thomas_, du redst english?
[18:14] <thomas_> kein english
[18:14] <bazhang> !de | thomas_
[18:14] <thomas_> weill das kann nicht gut
[18:14] <bazhang> thomas_, english here
[18:15] <thomas_> schöne wetter wir
[18:16] <bazhang> thomas_, /join #ubuntu-de
[18:17] <thomas_> hi
[18:17] <bazhang> thomas_, do you have a support question?
[18:18] <thomas_> tuss
[18:18] <bazhang> thomas_, what?
[18:18] <tj_> how can i reinstall terminal
[18:18] <tj_> its in my list and stuff in the kmenu but when i click it it doesnt open
[18:19] <bazhang> tj_, you dont need to.
[18:19] <bascule> apt-get install konsole
[18:19] <thomas_> ich muss den pc neue machen
[18:19] <bazhang> thomas_,
[18:19] <bazhang> this is english only.
[18:19] <thomas_> es hat was
[18:20] <thomas_> nicht english
[18:20] <thomas_> morgen muss ich arbeit
[18:20] <White_Pelican> gay tsu di anderre channel, thomas_
[18:25] <cadaverpimp> bascule: k9copy died.
[18:25] <bascule> :/
[18:25] <jnw222> :\
[18:25] <bascule> what release are you on?
[18:25] <cadaverpimp> 8.10
[18:26] <bascule> was it recently working and now doesn't?
[18:26] <cadaverpimp> I think I've done 2 or 3 DVDs before it gave out like now.
[18:26] <bascule> what does uname -r say?
[18:27] <cadaverpimp> 2.6.27-8-generic
[18:30] <bascule> yeah I am on -7, see if you still have -7 in grub and boot that
[18:30] <bascule> but first does dmesg say anything useful at the time k3b failed?
[18:31] <cadaverpimp> bascule: Let me put it in pastebin
[18:31] <bascule> I have an old dvd burner that failed about 1 in 4 times on DVDs got a new burner and it has never failed yet
[18:33] <cadaverpimp> bascule: http://paste.ubuntu.com/76040/
[18:34] <cadaverpimp> bascule: I have 2 DVD drives. Let me try the other.
[18:35] <bascule> ok, there is nothing like 'drive ready seek complete' or SCSI device errors
[18:35] <jnw222> use the "check cd/dvd for defects
[18:35] <bascule> it is not an install ISO just a general burning problem jnw222
[18:40] <manish> Hi everybody. Is it possible to get a mac style menu bar in KDE 4.1.3
[18:40] <manish> Actionparsnip: U there? Is it possible to get a mac style menu bar in KDE 4.1.3
[18:41] <manish> Genii: Is it possible to get a mac style menu bar in KDE 4.1.3
[18:41] <manish> or else is it possible to do it in KDE 4.2
[18:42] <cadaverpimp> bascule: Other DVD drive froze at 39 seconds of extracting.
[18:43] <manish> atleast tell me somebody wether Is it possible to get a mac style menu bar in KDE 4.1.3
[18:43] <bascule> cadaverpimp: extracting?
[18:43] <cadaverpimp> bascule: Yeah. It's the first process of k9copy
[18:44] <bascule> oh yeah, I was thinking k3b there :)
[18:44] <bascule> are you ripping a DVD?
[18:44] <cadaverpimp> Trying
[18:44] <bascule> try acidrip
[18:44] <bascule> but there was a burning problem as well, right? Or have I totally misunderstood?
[18:45] <cadaverpimp> No, you're right. It was while trying to burn with k3b
[18:49] <joe3> I've got an existing machine (previously had Opensuse 11) with existing partitions in RAID1 using the nforce4 hardware onboard raid. Trying to install Kubuntu 8.10 but it sees the drives as two separate drives. I want to keep my existing partitions.
[18:49] <cadaverpimp> bascule: What codec do I want to use for the backup of a DVD?
[18:49] <woden> How do I make it so that I can drag tabs to re-arrange them (in Konqueror)?
[18:50] <bascule> cadaverpimp: xvid
[18:50] <manish> i want to change the menu in Kubuntu Ibex to mac style ... ne ideas...???
[18:51] <bascule> joe3: you need to look into dm-raid I think
[18:51] <joe3> bascule: But is that something I can do during the install so I don't lose my existing partitions?
[18:52] <bascule> it is a kernel module, then you have to do some manual mounting, I am not sure having never done it but I am sure dm-raid is what you need
[18:53] <cadaverpimp> bascule: I have it loaded. I click on Start and it seems to restart itself. Am I missing something?
[18:54] <bascule> you have to tell it what chapter to rip, the longest one, then in the video tab select the bitrate and hit the detect button
[18:54] <bascule> it is not one click rip, you need to give it some parameters
[18:54] <bascule> It is really to see if some other app is happy ripping
[18:55] <steveg> This is my first time using the Kubuntu irc client. Can anyone tell me how to find a list of servers? I want to connect to the Undernet Political channel.
[18:55] <bascule> well you are on the wrong server steveg :)
[18:56] <bascule> /connect irc.undernet.org
[18:56] <bascule> or file -> edit servers in konversation (I think)
[18:57] <cadaverpimp> bascule: How do I get the -7 kernel? I only have -8 in my GRUB list
[18:58] <manish> how do i upgrade to KDE 4.2 from KDE 4.1.3
[18:58] <woden> How do I make it so that I can drag tabs to re-arrange them (in Konqueror)?
[18:59] <bascule> hmm, see if it is still available with aptitude search 2.6.27
[18:59] <cadaverpimp> bascule: I know I have it, I just removed it manually from my GRUB list (trying to keep it clean)
[19:00] <bascule> ah OK
[19:00] <steveg> bascule - Do you know if there is a list of servers somewhere in the Konversation controls? On Mirc, there is a list of addresses that is included with the client, but I don't know how this one works.
[19:01] <genii> woden: rightclick and "shift left" or so doesn't work?
[19:02] <bascule> cadaverpimp: http://paste.ubuntu.com/76051/
[19:02] <woden> genii:  I don't have that option
[19:02] <bascule> cadaverpimp: change the uuid though :)
[19:03] <bascule> steveg: doesn't seem to be
[19:04] <steveg> ok ... merci bascule
[19:04] <sourcemaker> what it the default format for adressbook in kontact? FILE or DIRECTORY?
[19:04] <bascule> np, but /connect irc.undernet.org should go
[19:05] <bascule> it is actually /server <blah>..
[19:05] <cadaverpimp> bascule: Thanks. Let's see if it makes a diff
[19:06] <Cannoli> hi there. who can i talk to abt being banned from a channel on this server?
[19:06] <LjL> Cannoli: if it's an ubuntu channel, #ubuntu-ops
[19:06] <genii> Cannoli: Someone in #ubuntu-ops
[19:07] <Cannoli> ok perfect
[19:07] <Cannoli> thank you
[19:09] <DaSkreech> sourcemaker: file I think
[19:12] <cadaverpimp> bascule: I'm running k9copy on -7-generic now. Let's see if there is a diff. If it is successful, should I file a bug report?
[19:18] <sourcemaker> how can I remove the ubuntu-desktop?
[19:18] <sourcemaker> so that only my kde desktop exists?
[19:18] <sourcemaker> apt-get purge ubuntu-desktop does not work... :-)
[19:19] <HappySmileMan> !purekde
[19:21] <sourcemaker> HappySmileMan: it this method also supported for 8.10?
[19:21] <HappySmileMan> I think so, haven't done it myself
[19:21] <bascule> cadaverpimp: yeah I would, that would be helpful
[19:22] <HappySmileMan> Wait there was a link here earlier with 8.10 instructions sourcemaker
[19:22] <HappySmileMan> I'll look through logs
[19:22] <sourcemaker> thanks... I will wait
[19:22] <HappySmileMan> http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde
[19:22] <HappySmileMan> There it is
[19:23] <PsiKloPx> Hiya...anyone know of any good podcasts that are Linux centered?  Maybe even specifically Ubuntu centered?
[19:23] <bascule> I've been running konversation on my BNC for a few days, it is OK but it just seems to take so much space compared to irssi
[19:23] <dapper-daniel> hej! Is ther a way to limit the number of icons shown in the systempanel (don't know if it's the right name; the thing next to the clock)
[19:23] <bascule> wrong channel :)
[19:24] <sourcemaker> HappySmileMan: seems like a hack... hope this works
[19:25] <popey> PsiKloPx: http://ubuntupodcast.net and http://podcast.ubuntu-uk.org/
[19:27] <PsiKloPx> popey: Thanx!
[19:27] <popey> np
[19:27] <popey> PsiKloPx: note: I am in the second one :)
[19:27] <x_link> Hurmm
[19:27] <x_link> Why is not sudo nano /etc/visudoers working?
[19:27] <x_link> Isn't that right?
[19:27] <popey> no
[19:27] <popey> sudo visudo
[19:27] <x_link> Doesn't work in 8.04
[19:27] <x_link> Works in gutsy and 8.10
[19:28] <popey> the file is /etc/sudoers
[19:28] <popey> not visudoers
[19:28] <x_link> Exactly.
[19:28] <x_link> =)
[19:28] <popey> exactly what?
[19:28] <popey> you made a typo
[19:29] <x_link> popey: I meant that you're right.
[19:29] <x_link> It's /etc/sudoers and not like I wrote it.
[19:29] <x_link> popey: Thanks
[19:34] <sigma_> anyone here using the default konqueror version in intrepid?
[19:34] <wirechief_> yes
[19:34] <tequil> hello
[19:35] <tequil> can anyone know how i can fix the Display Error on joomla installation
[19:35] <tequil> ?
[19:36] <sourcemaker> HappySmileMan: wow... removing a lot of libraries :-)
[19:36] <sigma_> wirechief_ - can you do me a favour and help me confirm a bug? go to www.sigma-solutions.za.net and look at the right hand side of the site (where the featured content banner is) - do you see a blank vertical banner there? Ever since I upgraded it disapeared, I can see it in firefox but not konq
[19:37] <sigma_> tequil: whats the error you get?
[19:37] <HappySmileMan> sourcemaker: Well shoudl remove all Gnome libraries anyway
[19:37] <HappySmileMan> And probably a lot of GTK ones
[19:38] <DaSkreech> PsiKloPx: Loads
[19:38] <DaSkreech> PsiKloPx: For some defintion of good
[19:38] <tequil> on preinstall check
[19:38] <wirechief_> sigma it is not opening up  with konq
[19:39] <tequil> find Display Error On
[19:39] <tequil> and it must be off
[19:39] <DaSkreech> sigma_: I can see it if it helps any
[19:39] <CourtJesterG> is it possible to repackage a .exe file into a .deb file and it would run and install perfectly?
[19:40] <sigma_> DaSkreech: which version of konq are you using? 4.1.2 or 4.1.3?
[19:40] <DaSkreech> 4.1.3
[19:40] <wirechief_> sigma it doesnt know what application to even use, it gives a selection and konq  fails to open it.
[19:40] <wirechief_> 4.1.2  here
[19:40] <sigma_> wirechief_: huh? its a joomla site, I can open it
[19:41] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[19:41] <wirechief_> well perhaps. but this konq  fails to open it. i just installed, it seems to work on google.
[19:41] <CourtJesterG> trying to play the projectvistor game that was once 10six the only problem is when you hit agree to load up the game since there isn't a icon that stay it give you a pv.pvl file which disappears after you click on it usually in windows your browser runs it and opens it in linux it can't so there is a big problem with trying to use wine to run this program
[19:41] <sigma_> DaSkreech: ah it was probably a bug, worked in 4.1, strange:) can I download just the 4.1.3 konq or must i get all of it?
[19:42] <sigma_> wirechief_: odd
[19:42] <DaSkreech> sigma_: Umm. hard question to answer :-)
[19:42] <tj_> !themes
[19:42] <DaSkreech> sigma_: It's part of KDE libs as I understand
[19:42] <PsiKloPx> DaSkreech: I'm a noob when it comes to Linux, but pretty knowledgable on windows. A good podcast would be one that had good tips and info.
[19:42] <wirechief_> sigma i have 61 updates to get for 8.10, this is a install on a brand new burn.
[19:42] <ActionParsnip> CourtJesterG: try copying the file in a different konsole maybe
[19:43] <DaSkreech> PsiKloPx: Ah Distrowatch has a podcast that's good then
[19:43] <PsiKloPx> DaSkreech: and of course, entertaining.
[19:43] <DaSkreech> ubuntu UK is also a very laid back podcast
[19:43] <sigma_> PsiKloPx: podcast.ubuntu-uk.org
[19:43] <DaSkreech> ^^^^
[19:43] <DaSkreech> PsiKloPx: Would you say you are power user for windows?
[19:43] <sigma_> lol its taught me a fair amount. fun bunch of guys
[19:43] <PsiKloPx> yeah, pretty much...
[19:43] <popey> DaSkreech: I'll take that as a compliment :)
[19:44] <wirechief_> sigma so far my only other issue is a anouying flashing of the desktop screen, perhaps these updates will fix that, dunno.
[19:44] <DaSkreech> popey: Hmm?
[19:44] <popey> 19:43:25 < DaSkreech> ubuntu UK is also a very laid back podcast
[19:44] <burn_> how to search files in kubuntu? strigi wont find anything, can i search from konsole?
[19:44] <PsiKloPx> been using M$ since DOS
[19:44] <DaSkreech> Yeah it's kinda intereting
[19:44] <popey> I'll take that as a compliment - I'm one of the presenters :)
[19:44] <afonso> exit
[19:45] <DaSkreech> It feels like people who have no business doing a podcast but are doing very well at it
[19:45] <PsiKloPx> right now I'm having trouble getting my sound to switch to my Logitech headset.
[19:45] <popey> hahah
[19:45] <burn_> how to search files in kubuntu? strigi wont find anything, can i search from konsole?
[19:45] <DaSkreech> Not very geeky a lot of the news comes across to the people ON the podcast as news
[19:45] <DaSkreech> Most podcasts have everyone talking abuot something that happened this morning as old hat
[19:46] <sigma_> popey: lol which presenter are you?
[19:46] <popey> sigma_: whois me :)
[19:46] <DaSkreech> It's quite refreshing to hear from people who are as used to walking the knifeedge of IT news
[19:46] <sigma_> top stuff:)
[19:47] <sigma_> great podcast, can't wait to download it every two weeks
[19:47] <popey> thank you!
[19:47] <vito__> salve, uso ubuntu ma posso chiedere a voi?Tvtime vedo solo bianco e nero.....
[19:47] <DaSkreech> There is another podcast that does strictly Tips and tricks but they curse so much I'm pretty much never going to recommend it
[19:47] <genii> !it
[19:47] <Hikefu> !es
[19:47] <vito__> ho provato tutte le impostazioni possibili...
[19:47] <PsiKloPx> I've got my USB headset working fine with Skype.  But other audio plays through my laptop speakers. I don't see any options in Alsamixer.
[19:47] <genii> Hikefu: It's italian and not spanish
[19:47] <sigma_> popey: i thought all you guys were gnome users?
[19:48] <DaSkreech> popey: That was my next question :)
[19:48] <DaSkreech>  in here for research?
[19:48] <popey> heh, yeah, we do all use gnome :S
[19:48] <popey> I'm here for the lolz
[19:48] <ActionParsnip> i use kde+fluxbox
[19:49] <popey> can't remember why i came in here actually
[19:49] <popey> oh yes, it was to ask a question about upgrading from 8.04 to 8.10 iirc
[19:49] <popey> and whether you'd lose kde 3.x
[19:49] <DaSkreech> popey: hang around. Wonderful to have people in here :)
[19:49] <DaSkreech> popey: Yes you do
[19:49] <sigma_> i think you would
[19:49] <cuznt> no you can keep 3
[19:50] <cuznt> it becomes 3.5.x
[19:50] <yodaz> hi
[19:50] <DaSkreech> Well techinically yes :)
[19:50] <DaSkreech> But there are no KDE3 packages in 8.10
[19:50] <sigma_> because kde4 overwrites the .kde folder so you will prob find that the kde4 apps overwrite the kde3 ones on your drive
[19:50] <DaSkreech> Officially
[19:50] <yodaz> I'm new to kde4, and I can't find how to change the main panel background color
[19:50] <sara_> hiya
[19:50] <yodaz> any idea ?
[19:50] <ActionParsnip> you could compile 3.5
[19:50] <sigma_> except for that kde3 libs one that allows stuff like k3b to run
[19:51] <DaSkreech> yodaz: currently you theme it
[19:51] <DaSkreech> and amarok
[19:51] <bascule> yodaz: you need plasma themes, right click on the dektop configure desktop then add stuff
[19:51] <yodaz> bascule: ok
[19:51] <yodaz> I will try that, thx
[19:51] <bascule> desktop theme it is called
[19:52] <sigma_> lol well i use amarok 2 now so no kde3 dependency anymore
[19:52] <popey> ok, so someone who upgrades from 8.04 to 8.10 using the usual method will be upgraded from kde 3.x to 4.x ?
[19:52] <DaSkreech> ActionParsnip: There are packages but the Kubuntu team is working on having a blessed list
[19:52] <DaSkreech>  some of the Third part packages do very very bad things
[19:52] <DaSkreech> popey: They will have both desktops but some things in KDE3 may become broken
[19:53] <popey> thanks!
[19:53] <DaSkreech> Since the config files will then be shared (they were not in 8.04) and the upgrades to the strcuture may break KDE apps
[19:53] <cuznt> i had nothing break
[19:53] <cuznt> kopete got weird but
[19:53] <DaSkreech> cuznt: Didn't say you would :)
[19:54] <cuznt> i completely uninstalled
[19:54] <DaSkreech> Just that's a possibilty
[19:54] <cuznt> and then re installed
[19:54] <cuznt> p00f!
[19:54] <yodaz> bascule: I have click on "new theme" and I 've downloaded one, but it doesn't appear in the theme list :-\
[19:54] <DaSkreech> popey: As mentioned there are third party repos that provide  KDE3 for 8.10 but some caution is needed as some of them do bad things
[19:55] <bascule> yodaz: you might need to get a few, close it then reopen it
[19:55] <yodaz> bascule: I need to close and reopen the configure window ?
[19:55] <yodaz> ok
[19:55]  * bascule tries too
[19:56] <yodaz> bascule: nice, it works :)
[19:56] <yodaz> thx
[19:56] <DaSkreech> Hopefully the Kubuntu team can gather some third party packagers together to rally around a PPA
[19:56] <DaSkreech> that would be nice
[19:57] <cadaverpimp> bascule: Nope. -7-generic crashed too
[19:59] <bascule> arrrg
[20:00] <cadaverpimp> bascule: What is signal 11?
[20:01] <bascule> SEGFAULT I think
[20:01] <bascule> memory overwriting or requesting an area of ram that isn't it's own
[20:01] <PsiKloPx> How do I get sound from my USB headset?
[20:01] <cadaverpimp> Sigsegv?
[20:01] <bascule> yeah
[20:02] <bascule> segmentaation violation
[20:02] <cadaverpimp> Any way to fix it?
[20:02] <roberto> hola
[20:02] <bascule> it is a bug in the app usually
[20:02] <roberto> que hacen?
[20:02] <genii> !es | roberto
[20:02] <DaSkreech> hola
[20:03] <ActionParsnip> PsiKloPx: http://www.lockergnome.com/linux/2007/09/23/setting-the-default-sound-card-usb-headset/
[20:03] <DaSkreech> popey: Hey Quick question
[20:04] <DaSkreech> popey: What do you think will happen for Gnome 3 ?
[20:05] <TekkieFreak> DS!!! Hi
[20:05] <PsiKloPx> ActionParsnip: Thanx!
[20:05] <DaSkreech> hi TekkieFreak
[20:05] <ActionParsnip> PsiKloPx: np man
[20:05] <DaSkreech> TekkieFreak: Took me a while to figure out who you were talking about :)
[20:06] <popey> DaSkreech: no idea :)
[20:06] <TekkieFreak> DS, sorry. :) I'm lazy...I guess I should type out DaSkreech!!! :)
[20:06] <DaSkreech> man :-( I was hoping someone would know
[20:06] <DaSkreech> !tab | TekkieFreak
[20:07] <TekkieFreak> DaSkreech: Wow...cool!!!
[20:07] <DaSkreech> aint it?
[20:07] <TekkieFreak> DaSkreech: I guess irc has come a long way!!! :)
[20:07] <DaSkreech> Nope
[20:07] <DaSkreech> But the clients rock!
[20:08] <TekkieFreak> Actually, I'm quite surprised they still have IRC. :)
[20:09] <ActionParsnip> TekkieFreak: its as old as the hills and will probably stay round forever
[20:09] <TekkieFreak> I guess....I used to TinyMUSH too.
[20:10] <DaSkreech> MUSH and MUD
[20:10] <DaSkreech> MMM
[20:10] <DaSkreech> Now people are just going to think I'm a dirty old man
[20:10] <pgib> anyone here using project-neon / kde sv?
[20:10] <pgib> svn
[20:10] <TekkieFreak> heh. :) I'm not getting any younger am I?
[20:11] <TekkieFreak> DaSkreech: Yeah...can't tell you how many times I got accused of being a guy pretending to be a girl back in the 90's
[20:12] <TekkieFreak> :)
[20:12] <DaSkreech> Well.. that's cause you were
[20:12] <DaSkreech> :-)
[20:12] <TekkieFreak> Oooh :)
[20:12] <DaSkreech> pgib: You can ask your real question as well
[20:12] <draik> bascule: Do you think I should send a bug report for k9copy and k3b?
[20:12] <DaSkreech> ActionParsnip: The Hills have Eye..ArrCee ?
[20:12] <walmik> Hello all... I m trying to setup the Nvidia drivers on Kubuntu 8.10. Can anybody please give some tips as i m not able to get it right
[20:13] <TekkieFreak> k9copy does seem broke latel
[20:13] <DaSkreech> !nvidiaa
[20:13] <DaSkreech> !nvidia
[20:13] <sourcemaker> HappySmileMan: works fine... thanks
[20:13] <TekkieFreak> er lately
[20:13] <HappySmileMan> np sourcemaker
[20:13] <bascule> draik: I really am not to sure
[20:13] <ActionParsnip> DaSkreech: huh?
[20:13] <sourcemaker> HappySmileMan: I only have to reinstall some apps... but that's ok :-)
[20:13] <bascule> draik: I would test to see if I could burn with anything
[20:14] <walmik> DaSkreech: thanks
[20:14] <draik> TekkieFreak: k9copy terminates at the end with SIGSEGV. k3b just freezes up my system.
[20:15] <TekkieFreak> draik...yep it does that to me too.  I don't know why....did you try using it with a gnome desktop?
[20:15] <ActionParsnip> draik: try burning slower maybe, do you have the latest versions
[20:15] <TekkieFreak> Sometimes I can't get stuff to work and then sometimes it works under gnome for some reason.
[20:16] <DaSkreech> Both have not been updated ina bit. I would suspect the underlying burning tools were updated by the system and they are not in step
[20:16] <draik> ActionParsnip: I have it set to auto. Never gave me an issue until 2 days ago. k3b and k9copy are the latest.
[20:17] <ActionParsnip> draik: try setting the speed to something like 8x or something for CD and 4x for DVD
[20:17] <pgib> DaSkreech, well. I was wondering if anyone else has had a problem with no applications listed in the launcher.
[20:17] <DaSkreech> pgib: Probably don't have runners installed/indexed
[20:17] <draik> ActionParsnip: Ok. I'll try 4x right now.
[20:18] <ActionParsnip> draik: unless you are in a BIG hurry, slower is better
[20:18] <DaSkreech> KDE 4x!!! Whooooooo
[20:18] <pgib> is there a way to reindex?
[20:18] <TekkieFreak> DaSkreech:  huh?
[20:19] <draik> ActionParsnip: I'm not. I hope it's a speed issue. I'd rather have it done than have undone DVDs.
[20:19] <DaSkreech> TekkieFreak: huh@huh?
[20:19] <esa-petri> does anyboby know howto configure firefall, I mean what out comming connections alow and what deny
[20:19] <ActionParsnip> draik: totally
[20:19] <DaSkreech> pgib: I think so but you are likely to have better hits in #kde
[20:19] <ActionParsnip> draik: bit extreme but you could look at a firmware upgrade of the device (risky)
[20:19] <CourtJesterG> !compiler
[20:19] <draik> ActionParsnip: This is going to be the 3rd DVD. I hope I don't get a freeze.
[20:20] <ActionParsnip> draik: could try a reboot too
[20:20] <draik> ActionParsnip: This computer was put together back in 2004.
[20:20] <draik> ActionParsnip: A reboot is mandetory after the freeze ;)
[20:20] <ActionParsnip> draik: i have some older systems
[20:20] <TekkieFreak> DaSkreech: Oh I was wondering what the kde4 whooo was about?
[20:21] <DaSkreech> TekkieFreak: Someone said 4x :)
[20:21] <pgib> DaSkreech, ok. I thought it may be a distro issue
[20:21] <draik> ActionParsnip: If it is an issue with my burner (which I doubt), I have another one that is newer and I was going to give to my girl last year.
[20:21] <l3on> Hi all, where can I find the Krunner svn code source  ?
[20:21] <walmik> DaSkreech: Can you please also guide me to installing the wireless Broadcom drivers
[20:21] <ActionParsnip> draik: if you get the exact model of the device there may be a new firmware for it, there may be a setting for the software thats weird
[20:21] <TekkieFreak> DaSkreech: Oh. :) Sorry, the kids are distracting me!!
[20:22] <ActionParsnip> !broadcom | walmik
[20:22] <ActionParsnip> !ndiswrapper | walmik
[20:22] <walmik> ActionParsnip: thanks
[20:23] <draik> ActionParsnip: Ok. Moment of truth... Burning has begun
[20:23]  * ActionParsnip plays a drumroll for draik
[20:23] <walmik> ActionParsnip, you know I m trying to download the drivers for nvidia but its stuck at 0%.... any idea why that could be happening
[20:24] <draik> 25...
[20:24] <draik> Whoops
[20:24] <draik> 4%...
[20:24] <draik> 5%
[20:24] <draik> I think I reached 17% or so
[20:25] <TekkieFreak> draik and it's still going?
[20:25] <draik> 10%... c'mon...
[20:25] <ActionParsnip> walmik: where are you getting them from?
[20:25] <draik> 15%... c'mon...
[20:25]  * draik crosses fingers
[20:26] <walmik> ActionParsnip: Actually i dont know... I ve just installed Kubuntu and for a long time I couldnt even connect till here
[20:26] <draik> 20%...
[20:26] <walmik> ActionParsnip: I have changed the software sources to Main server
[20:26] <DaSkreech> Wow
[20:26] <ActionParsnip> walmik: maybe the server is busy
[20:26] <DaSkreech> Does Konqueror just suck for parsing XML files?
[20:26] <walmik> ActionParsnip: Ah! Ok
[20:27] <draik> 25%...
[20:27] <ActionParsnip> walmik: you could concel the download / whatever then rekick it off
[20:27] <ActionParsnip> DaSkreech: not sure, i dont use it
[20:27] <walmik> ActionParsnip: OK, thanks for your helo
[20:27] <draik> 30%...
[20:27] <walmik> help*
[20:28] <ActionParsnip> DaSkreech: try other viewers to see if its ok
[20:28] <draik> 35%...
[20:29] <draik> 40%...
[20:29] <ActionParsnip> going well
[20:29] <TekkieFreak> ooohh 40%...that's good
[20:29] <draik> 45%...
[20:30] <draik> 50%...
[20:30] <DaSkreech> TekkieFreak: You have obviously never reached 99% often :)
[20:31] <TekkieFreak> DaSkreech: Nope....actually I don't think I've ever had it work.
[20:31] <Mano21> hi
[20:31] <draik> 55%...
[20:31] <TekkieFreak> DaSkreech: guess I've only tried it maybe 5 or 6 times though.
[20:31] <Ayabara> any disadvantages on choosing inode size 128 instead of 256 for an ext3 volume?
[20:31] <DaSkreech> TekkieFreak: been my experience that most stuff hangs up around the 99th percentile
[20:31] <draik> 60%...
[20:32] <DaSkreech> Ayabara: ae you running a database or media off of it?
[20:32] <TekkieFreak> DaSkreech: That's to add that extra "annoyance" factor. :)
[20:32] <draik> 65%....
[20:33] <Ayabara> DaSkreech: it's a storage partition with mostly media. I need to access it from windows as well, and the ext2 ifs driver will only mount it if it has inodesize=128
[20:33] <draik> 70%...
[20:33] <DaSkreech> Ayabara: Go to it then
[20:33] <draik> 75%...
[20:34] <Ayabara> DaSkreech: so no major disadvantages in other words? btw, how can I check such details for a mounted drive?
[20:34] <draik> 80%...
[20:34] <DaSkreech> You'd be checking the filesystem mounted or not makes little diference
[20:35] <draik> 85%...
[20:35] <Ayabara> DaSkreech: so how do I check the filesystem then? :)
[20:35] <tj_> brb restarting
[20:35]  * DaSkreech shrugs :)
[20:35] <ActionParsnip> Ayabara: http://www.linfo.org/inode.html
[20:35] <TekkieFreak> fsck = file system check
[20:35] <draik> 90%...
[20:36] <draik> 95%...
[20:36] <draik> 96%...
[20:36] <TekkieFreak> Oh...you almost have it draik.
[20:36] <draik> 97%...
[20:36] <draik> 98%...
[20:37] <draik> 99%...
[20:37]  * DaSkreech gulps
[20:37] <draik> 100%...
[20:37] <draik> And the DVD is...
[20:37] <DaSkreech> whoooo!
[20:37] <TekkieFreak> Long as it can close your session...you're probably good!!
[20:37] <CourtJesterG> !developer
[20:37] <DaSkreech> coaster!!!
[20:37]  * genii hands out more coffees
[20:37] <DaSkreech> genii!! :-)
[20:37] <sorush20> the kipi tools are not being shown digikam I can't send files
[20:37] <TekkieFreak> mmmm coffee...I LOVE coffee
[20:38] <draik> SUCCESSFUL!!!!!
[20:38] <TekkieFreak> Yeah draik!!! whooooo Hooooo!!!
[20:38] <sorush20> anyone here managed to email multiple image to someone using digikam?
[20:38] <Ayabara> ActionParsnip: useful link. thanks :)
[20:38] <ActionParsnip> draik: booya
[20:38] <genii> DaSkreech!!
[20:38] <TekkieFreak> Did we burn anything good?
[20:38] <DaSkreech> Kookies for everyone!!!
[20:38] <ActionParsnip> !cookie | DaSkreech
[20:39] <DaSkreech> !kookie
[20:39] <DaSkreech> Bum
[20:39] <draik> TekkieFreak: For legal reasons... Yes.
[20:39] <TekkieFreak> :)
[20:39] <TekkieFreak> draik:  Awesome!!!
[20:40] <DaSkreech> genii: Know anything about XML parsing in Konqueror?
[20:40] <TekkieFreak> Alrighty then....time to go...see you guys later or tomorrow. :)
[20:40] <TekkieFreak> Have a great day.
[20:41] <genii> DaSkreech: Unfortunately, not much
[20:41] <draik> I'm going to try another ISO. Still at 4x. Just want to make sure it's the speed and not a bad ISO for high speeds.
[20:41] <genii> Did you md5 check?
[20:42] <DaSkreech> !md5
[20:42] <draik> genii: No. It crossed my mind and forgot to ask about it. Thanks DaSkreech for the link.
[20:44] <draik> How do I check the md5 on something I created? This is an ISO I made with k9copy a few weeks ago.
[20:44] <PsiKloPx> ActionParsnip: No joy with the headset.
[20:45] <draik> New ISO has begun burning...
[20:45] <PsiKloPx> When I run the script as shown, all I get is "Please note that you are attempting to run asoundconf as a privileged superuser, which may have unintended consequenses."
[20:46] <draik> 10%...
[20:47] <draik> 15%...
[20:47]  * draik hopes this is a speed issue.
[20:47] <DaSkreech> PsiKloPx: In UNIX a good command says nothing if things went well
[20:47] <draik> 20%...
[20:48] <PsiKloPx> DaSkreech: Yeah, thought that was prolly the case.
[20:48] <draik> 25%...
[20:48] <Ayabara> maybe I should use ext2 for the storage partition, since the windows-fsdriver will mount ext3 as ext2 anyway..
[20:49] <PsiKloPx> I copied and pasted the scripts so I know I didn't misspell anything.
[20:49] <draik> 30%...
[20:49] <PsiKloPx> and when I run sudo asoundconf list...I get Intel and Headset.  Pretty simple
[20:50] <draik> 35%...
[20:50] <sorush20> is there a gmail agent for kubuntu
[20:50] <draik> [CTCP] Received Version request from tj_.
[20:50] <draik> 40%...
[20:50] <draik> What's going on, tj_?
[20:51] <tj_> nothing just seeing what client ppl are using...
[20:51] <tj_> lol
[20:51] <draik> 45%...
[20:51] <draik> tj_: You could just ask. I'm using konversation.
[20:51] <tj_> i want to add scripts to my irc client... but duno if you can in linux
[20:51] <genii> tj_: Yes, you can
[20:52] <draik> 50%...
[20:52] <draik> 55%...
[20:53] <draik> 60%...
[20:53] <burn_> draik u configuring your sound card?
[20:54] <draik> 65%...
[20:54] <draik> Nope. Burning an ISO
[20:54] <draik> 70%...
[20:55] <draik> 75%...
[20:56] <draik> 80%...
[20:56] <ott0> hey, which version of eclipse should i install to run the flex builder alpha plugin
[20:56] <tj_> sysinfo
[20:56] <trappist> draik: that's not necessary
[20:56] <draik> ok
[20:57] <michal__> witam
[20:58] <michal__> może mi ktoś pomóc zainstalować skype?
[20:58] <PsiKloPx> sorush20: I use mail-notification.  Not crazy about it but it gets the job done.
[20:58] <michal__> co i jak wpisac w konsolkę żeby sie to zainstalowało
[20:58] <trappist> is that polish?
[20:58] <michal__> lool, sorry, yep it is
[20:59] <trappist> !pl
[20:59] <DaSkreech> !pl
[20:59] <trappist> :)
[20:59] <michal__> pls dont send me back to ubuntu.pl
[20:59] <michal__> :)
[20:59] <DaSkreech> trappist: It's getting pretty sad how many languages I can recognize now
[20:59] <tj_> Sysinfo for 'tj-laptop': Linux 2.6.24-21-386 running KDE 3.5.10, CPU: Intel(R)Core2CPUT5200@1.60GHz at 800 MHz (3196 bogomips), , RAM: 504/2018MB, 116 proc's, 13.2min up
[20:59] <trappist> michal__: ok no problem :) but this is an english channel
[20:59] <michal__> Da its a virtue ;)
[20:59] <DaSkreech> michal__: No problems just this is an english chan
[20:59] <webas> how to install openoffice 3.0 ? all i get is 2.4 old old version :(
[21:00] <ott0> dude someone stole my nick on irc.freenode.net, is there a way to kick them off or something? i have my nick registered with nickserv
[21:00] <DaSkreech> webas: ha ha
[21:00] <trappist> ott0: /msg nickserv help ghost
[21:00] <michal__> well i just wrote IRC and here i am ;)
[21:00] <DaSkreech> webas: a) 2.4 is a little over a month old so ... and 3.0 has new bugs
[21:00] <DaSkreech> webas: Otherwise you can install the debs from OO.o
[21:01] <webas> oh no its too difficult :)
[21:01] <michal__> so, can i ask you guys for help?
[21:01] <tj_> !ask
[21:01] <webas> well 3.0 is stable version so i tought its brand new :)
[21:01] <tj_> !ask > michal__
[21:01] <michal__> i need to install skype for my kubuntu
[21:01] <trappist> michal__: of course!  if you do it in english, we'll even try to answer
[21:01] <DaSkreech> webas: what? installing the debs is too dificult?
[21:01] <trappist> !skype
[21:02]  * DaSkreech has much hate for skype right now
[21:02] <DaSkreech> Kopete has a skype plugin so I'm sorely tempted to just use that
[21:02] <michal__> Kopete does that ?
[21:02] <michal__> :) im gonna check it right away
[21:02] <ott0> trappist: it said the user has been ghosted, but when i try to switch to my nick it still says it's in use
[21:02] <DaSkreech> michal__: Not your Kopete :-)
[21:03] <DaSkreech> ott0: #freenode
[21:03] <ott0> okay :)
[21:03] <michal__> DaSkreech, yep, mine doesnt ...
[21:04] <DaSkreech> michal__: It's in the code for 4.2
[21:04] <DaSkreech> Two months away :)
[21:05] <DaSkreech> ott0_: Still no go?
[21:05] <ott0_> it worked the second time
[21:05] <KingOfDos> does somebody know where nm-applet has gone at kubuntu 8.10?
[21:06] <ott0_> that's pretty sweet, real power trip
[21:06] <KingOfDos> on a laptop thats upgraded from 8.04 i have the applet, but on a fresh install i can't find it
[21:06] <michal__> forum helped :)
[21:07] <michal__> cheers
[21:07] <Captain_Haddock> hi
[21:08] <||arifaX> KingOfDos: what if starting once and then it should start always automatically?? - I don't use it anymore but well that is another story
[21:08] <KingOfDos> ||arifaX: the problem is that there is no /usr/bin/nm-applet
[21:09] <||arifaX> KingOfDos: what if removing/adding it again?
[21:09]  * Diabelko is away [Poszedlem!] 
[21:09] <KingOfDos> ||arifaX: it's not in the repository, or at least i'm using the wrong repository's ;)
[21:10] <Captain_Haddock> anybody know why adept's updater won't update automatically?
[21:10] <jussi01> !away > Diabelko
[21:11] <||arifaX> KingOfDos: what if you just start nm-applet without any path? - errors? ist it maybe running? try restarting network-manager with /etc/init.d/networkmanager restart
[21:11] <KingOfDos> ||arifaX: THERE IS NO /usr/bin/nm-applet !
[21:12] <||arifaX> KingOfDos: there is a lot in forums that nm-applet is there but not visible so I just wanted you to try to start it without path. no need to shout!
[21:12] <KingOfDos> read again. on a "fresh" install, i can't find it in the repositorys. on an upgraded install neighter, but it's still there because i'd upgraded from 8.04
[21:15] <||arifaX> KingOfDos: not helpfully for you but I find it nice that networkmanager is lost in space...
[21:15] <||arifaX> I use WiCD
[21:15] <ott0_> hm, the ubuntu nickserv sent it's registration confirmation email with subject: freenode Nickname Registration
[21:15] <trappist> I just uninstalled it and fixed up my /etc/network/interfaces
[21:16] <trappist> ott0_: it's not ubuntu's nickserv - nickserv serves the whole network
[21:17] <ott0_> you mean this is part of freenode?
[21:17] <ott0_> maybe i need to read up on how irc works...
[21:19] <||arifaX> KingOfDos: take a look at http://ph.ubuntuforums.com/showthread.php?t=956187
[21:19] <||arifaX> at the end a user shows to lines for his sources.list that might help
[21:19] <gekkoo> when i ssh to my laptop the defined .bash_aliases doesnt work..anybody knows why? when i'm using the shell directly (not through ssh) it works of course..
[21:20] <||arifaX> gekkoo: maybe the shell you get is not bash?
[21:21] <ott0_> wait is irc.ubuntu.com just pointing to the freenode server(s)?
[21:21] <bascule> ott0_: yes
[21:21] <genii> Yes
[21:21] <gekkoo> ||arifaX: it is
[21:21] <ott0_> no wonder
[21:22] <ott0_> i was trying to log in to nickserv here and colliding with myself
[21:22] <bascule> :)
[21:23] <ott0> hey ott0_, what a fine nick you have there
[21:23] <Tm_T> ...
[21:23] <ott0_> why thanks
[21:23] <ott0_> bye
[21:25] <trappist> gekkoo: try with UseLogin turned on in your sshd_config
[21:25] <starenka> hi, where can i find kmenu config file? (kde 3)
[21:26] <trappist> starenka: it's not quite that simple - there are files scattered everywhere.  you want to use kmenuedit for that.
[21:27] <starenka> trappist:: yep, but its hard to find smthng... i mean it takes a long time - i use katapult so i'm not familiar w/ the categories...
[21:28] <starenka> nvrmnd ;)
[21:30] <DaSkreech> ott0: Them all having the same channels kinda seems like they are the same :)
[21:32] <draik> How do I check if I am KDE4.1.2 or KDE4.1.3?
[21:32] <PsiKloPx> ok. I've tried asoundconf-gtk - no joy.  I've tried "sudo asoundconf set-default-card name-of-card-to-be-default" - no joy.
[21:32] <elgokulo> open dolphin -> help -> about -> <bout kde
[21:32] <PsiKloPx> My headset and mike work fine in Skype
[21:32] <DaSkreech> draik: help -> about kde
[21:33] <KingOfDos> ||arifaX: nope. to bad. thanks for searching anyway :)
[21:33] <draik> Thanks.
[21:33] <draik> KDE4.1.3 for me.
[21:33] <Tm_T> 4.1.80 for me I guess
[21:33] <KingOfDos> i'll try that strange networkmanager from kde directly. i'd tested it already but diddn't get a wireless connection working. with nm-applet it always does.
[21:34] <Guest5941> Hello, Question is there a nice tool to display bandwidth days
[21:34] <__Adam__> Hello, Question is there a nice tool to display bandwidth as a  graph on a interface via snmp?
[21:35] <||arifaX> __Adam__: mrtg but nice? you got something to do but then its nice yeah
[21:35] <__Adam__> i was looking for something quicker and eaiser than MRTG
[21:35] <__Adam__> i use nagios at work
[21:35] <__Adam__> but i just want to query my router at home
[21:35] <__Adam__> 1 interface :P
[21:36] <KingOfDos> for just one device use mrtg
[21:37] <KingOfDos> nagios is nice, for multiple devices, but still not that good
[21:37] <__Adam__> hye nagios is doing 230 check, attached to a mobile phone for SMS :D
[21:37] <__Adam__> it works
[21:37] <KingOfDos> i'd use Zabbix at work, much better, more features.
[21:38] <DaSkreech> Tm_T: :-D
[21:38] <Tm_T> DaSkreech: yes?
[21:38] <KingOfDos> and indeed, connection with mobile phone for SMS feature is nice to've got __Adam__ :)
[21:38] <draik> I'm trying to submit a bug report on k9copy and I cannot find it on the list. Search does not result with k9copy either. Is there a way to submit the bug to bugs.kde.org?
[21:38] <DaSkreech> .80 :-D
[21:38] <Tm_T> DaSkreech: what about it?
[21:38] <KingOfDos> i'm using my private framework to send/rec sms messages, based on gnokii
[21:38] <DaSkreech> Tm_T: It amuses me
[21:39] <Tm_T> draik: I think it's not part of KDE
[21:39] <KingOfDos> but that's way offtopic ;)
[21:39] <Tm_T> DaSkreech: KDE: 4.1.80 (KDE 4.1.80 (KDE 4.2 Beta1))
[21:39] <__Adam__> i just use nagios and gnokii
[21:39] <draik> Tm_T: Hmmm... I wonder why the crash report is telling me to report it there. I thought it was awkward.
[21:39] <draik> !bug
[21:39] <Tm_T> DaSkreech: there it is, double, more amusing (:)
[21:40] <DaSkreech> ha ha :-D
[21:43] <draik> Tm_T: What is that command for creating the file for a bug report?
[21:43] <Tm_T> no idea
[21:43] <draik> Ok. Let me see if I can find it somewhere.
[21:54] <sigma> whats the difference between suspend to ram and suspend to disk? which one is better?
[21:54] <pgib> one suspends to ram, the other to disk
[21:55] <pgib> ram is faster to suspend to and from, but may be lost if your battery dies
[21:55] <HappySmileMan> Suspend to RAM would be faster to recover from, but less reliable
[21:55] <sigma> well im on a desktop so battery life isnt a issue
[21:55] <DaSkreech> or power goes
[21:56] <sigma> either way when I put my pc into suspend i dont have anything open, its merely for power saving purposes
[21:57] <sigma> is there a specific one i should use if im using the nvidia proprietory driver?
[21:58] <mahdialsholi> hi all
[21:58] <mahdialsholi> ho all
[21:58] <mahdialsholi> hi all
[21:58] <mahdialsholi> any one here
[21:58] <sigma> !hello
[21:58] <sigma> !ask
[21:59] <kaminix> Anyone here who can tell why I can start Firefox via the KMenu and Yakuake but not with alt+F2?
[22:00] <draik> kaminix: Make sure you are choosing the firefox app and not the folder or favorites. Has happened to me in the past.
[22:00] <DaSkreech> !anyone
[22:01] <draik> DaSkreech: Anyone know why that is? ;)
[22:01] <Idzme> itś the same on every channel, first question is always if they can ask the question ;)
[22:02] <Idzme> he, wha
[22:02] <Idzme> sorry
[22:02] <sigma> kaminix: where did you get firefox from?
[22:02] <DaSkreech> draik: The firefox thing?
[22:03] <DaSkreech> Idzme: Metaquestions suck
[22:07] <kaminix> sigma: From the repositories.
[22:07] <kaminix> draik: I just type 'firefox' in the alt+f2 run dialog
[22:07] <sigma> kaminix: odd, i did too and can access it in that dialog
[22:08] <kaminix> sigma: It was after I had done some stuff too my system, though I don't know what made it not work.
[22:08] <kaminix> I mean, it runs fine when I type it in yakuake or start it via the KMenu. :s
[22:09] <sigma> kaminix: hmmm well its probably something you changed
[22:09] <kaminix> It is, but I wish to change it back :s
[22:11] <diggernet> greets
[22:11] <sigma> kaminix: try deleting the .kde directory and log out and back in so the system can re-generate it. WARNING - this will delete all your kde settings
[22:12] <diggernet> just trying to install 8.10, and ran into an annoying problem...  it won't let me select a display larger than 800x600, and I can't find anywhere in the settings that I can override the faulty auto-detect
[22:13] <sigma> diggernet: you will have to setup the /etc/xorg.conf file manually. what graphics card is it?
[22:14] <draik> I don't know how far I got until k9copy froze, but it did it anyway. :(
[22:14] <diggernet> sigma:  Trident Cyber 9397DVD
[22:15] <diggernet> how can I tell what driver X is using?
[22:17] <draik> diggernet: /etc/X11/xorg.conf should have it listed for you
[22:18] <diggernet> draik:  nah...  this is the new auto-configure X, the xorg.conf is basically empty
[22:18] <sigma> oh shoot forgot about that
[22:18] <draik> Nothing with a driver in it?
[22:18] <diggernet> the xorg log seems to say it's detecting the chipset right, tho
[22:18] <diggernet> nope
[22:25] <zzl> #summer
[22:25] <zzl> it's the new trend
[22:30] <diggernet> oh man...  digging thru the xorg log.  it says "TFT Panel 1024x768 found", then proceeds to go through this huge list of possible resolutions, and for every 1024 one announces it won't use it.
[22:31] <emma> Hey I just did an update in kubuntu and it seems to have ruined my system.
[22:31] <emma> x did not start automaticall. It took me to a tty to login, after logging in i started it with: startx
[22:31] <emma> but no sound
[22:33] <DaSkreech> emma: any errors from startx ?
[22:33] <DaSkreech> And hi!! :)
[22:34] <emma> hey there
[22:34] <emma> No errors that I'm aware of.
[22:35] <emma> It's like the monitor just dies
[22:35] <DaSkreech> emma: is your DM running?
[22:35] <emma> then i get a tty prompt after a while.
[22:35] <emma> what's a DM ?
[22:36] <emma> It just takes me to tty 1
[22:36] <emma> It's not even making it to the part where it would ask for me to log in.
[22:37] <diggernet> this looks suspicious...  "Using default hsync range of 31.50-37.90 kHz".  what are proper values for a 1024x768 LCD?
[22:38] <emma> This doesn't make any sense. Kubuntu was working great. An update should not set me back to nothing.
[22:38] <diggernet> emma:  understatement.
[22:43] <emma> I got it sort of working by doing, sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[22:44] <emma> Why would doing an update force me to start kubuntu this way?
[22:47] <apadox> how to automount ntfs filesystem at startup*?
[22:47] <EvilJordan> Anyone want to decompile and then rewrite a java URLHandler to work in Ubuntu?
[22:48] <diggernet> success!
[22:49] <diggernet> google told me to run 'gtf 1024 768 60', which spit out a modeline and said hsync 47.70.  I added "HorizSync 31.5-48.0" to xorg.conf, and all is good.
[22:53] <DaSkreech> emma: That's your DM
[22:53] <DaSkreech> what update did you do?
[22:58] <Andre_Re> halleluja
[22:58] <Andre_Re> es läuft
[22:58] <Andre_Re> linux läuft
[22:58] <Andre_Re> mit treiber
[22:58] <Andre_Re> ein wunder wird wahr!!!
[23:05] <brandan> is it possible to get C++Version 5 on ubuntu 8.10
[23:05] <awidegreen> Andre_Re: wrong channel - dies ist der englische :D
[23:05] <HappySmileMan> There is a C++ compiler and C++ IDEs...
[23:06] <HappySmileMan> Maybe you're thinking of version 5 of a certain IDE or compiler
[23:06] <brandan> old program
[23:06] <brandan> I need to run on linux
[23:07] <HappySmileMan> Visual C++ version 5?
[23:07] <brandan> nvm
[23:09] <OxDeadC0de> brandon try out netbeans or code::blocks, and make sure you have build-essentials installed
[23:10] <OxDeadC0de> drandan: /\
[23:10] <OxDeadC0de> BLAH brandan!
[23:11] <brandan> huh
[23:11] <DaSkreech> !de
[23:23] <andypls1> hey where should i go to ask my java question?#
[23:24] <OxDeadC0de> everybody!! Get your free Dr Pepper coupon today! http://www.drpepper.com/freeDrPepper/
[23:37] <antoranz> guys, i need a hand here
[23:38] <antoranz> I have enabled the nvidia drivers, but I don't think the 3d pepper is working
[23:38] <antoranz> could it be that the nvidia driver is "banning" the card from woking with 3d acceleration?
[23:40] <antoranz> the Xorg log shows the nvidia driver does load, but for example, when I run the nvidia settings application, it says the nvidia driver is not working
[23:52] <blueVal> hi all. i have download the drivers and still when i play a video on vlc flashes black screen all the time what i do wrong?
[23:55] <blueVal> hi all. i have download the drivers and still when i play a video on vlc flashes black screen all the time what i do wrong?
[23:55] <RiotingPacifist> !moonlight
[23:55] <RiotingPacifist> !mono