[00:58] <boredandblogging> highvoltage: about the iran fridge thing, absolutely!
[00:59] <tyche> boredandblogging: How's your vacation?
[01:00] <boredandblogging> tyche: ugh
[01:00] <boredandblogging> it wasn't
[01:00] <tyche> Ugh?
[01:00] <tyche> What happened?
[01:00] <boredandblogging> never made it
[01:00] <tyche> Oh, I'm sorry to hear that.
[01:00] <boredandblogging> dad got ill right before we were leaving
[01:00] <boredandblogging> went down to Orlando to check on him
[01:01] <tyche> I hope it was nothing too serious.
[01:01] <boredandblogging> then my mom sprained her ankle, tearing a ligament
[01:01] <tyche> You're family isn't having very good luck, right now, are they?
[01:02] <boredandblogging> heh, no
[06:01] <highvoltage> boredandblogging: cool, thanks
[06:01] <highvoltage> boredandblogging: the zimbabwe team also didn't too bad, so I think I'll do that too
[06:44] <boredandblogging> highvoltage: excellent, let me know if you need any help
[06:46] <highvoltage> will do
[18:12] <Tumie> UWN already finished?
[18:12] <tyche> Not quite.  We're working on it.  Still a little to do.
[18:12] <tyche> We're missing some of our people, today, and are having to cover for eachother.
[18:12] <Tumie> oke, :)
[18:13] <Tumie> as usual :p
[18:13] <tyche> We TRY not to make it "usual".  Hee hee
[18:14] <Tumie> as usual... :P
[18:14] <tyche> Smart Alic.  ROFL
[18:14] <Tumie> alic ?
[18:15] <Tumie> ow.. i understand it now :p
[18:16] <tyche> Sounds like you looked it up in wikipedia.  BTW, I misspelled it.  It's alec.  Sorry
[18:18] <Tumie> no, used google translate.. wanted to say "is that like...".. and translate a word.. and getted "smart" back :P
[18:19] <Tumie> a smart alec is an annoying ... someone :p
[18:19] <tyche> Yep.  I've never tried google translate.  I'll have to look into it.  Thanks
[18:20] <Tumie> you're english, you don't need it :p
[18:21] <tyche> I need it for other languages.  And you'd be amazed at how many English words I don't know.
[18:22] <Tumie> you know more words then i know :p
[18:22] <tyche> Possibly.  But I'm also older than you are, and therefore have been exposed to it longer.
[18:23] <Tumie> and i'm dutch, and you're an american :p
[18:24] <tyche> Well, sure!  That's going to affect it, too.  But length of time of exposure and availability are still major factors, regardless of where you or I are from.
[19:27] <boredandblogging> FYI, the fridge calendar <-> #ubuntu-meeting bot issue has been added to the CC agenda
[19:28] <LirazSiri> hey guys, I'm doing proof reading for the latest UWN and I noticed something awfully strange
[19:28] <tyche> That will be for December 2, at 3:00 AM MST, or 10:00 UTC
[19:29] <LirazSiri> there is an Ubuntu community interview with "Nathan Grubb".
[19:29] <LirazSiri> UWN links to his blog. I read it and the kid doesn't seem to get it at all. He sounds almost like a Microsoft shill
[19:30] <LirazSiri> His latest posts attack "Linux fanboys", compliment Microsoft for having 90% of the market, includes quotes such as "I don't get why peoplw whine when companies don't make Linux versions of software"...
[19:31] <LirazSiri> the next post is titled "Proprietary software isn't evil" and includes such quotes as "I've never gotten how OSS is a viable market option"
[19:32] <LirazSiri> why are we featuring this guy on UWN???
[19:32] <LirazSiri> he has a right to his personal opinions but they go very much against the opensource spirit of Ubuntu
[19:33] <boredandblogging> i think the link might be wrong
[19:33] <boredandblogging> think it should have been http://nathangrubb.wordpress.com/
[19:34] <LirazSiri> no, thats his old blog
[19:35] <boredandblogging> ah, you are right
[19:35] <tyche> He's got a point, boredandblogging
[19:35] <LirazSiri> there are plenty of better candidates to feature in UWN than this guy
[19:36] <tyche> However, that's in 117, and we're working on 118.  It might be something we take up with Matthew.
[19:36] <boredandblogging> someone else did the interview
[19:36] <boredandblogging> we just reported that they did the interview
[19:36] <tyche> Yep
[19:36] <LirazSiri> woops. I was looking at the wrong edition
[19:37] <LirazSiri> well then, thats water under the bridge. nevermind
[19:38] <LirazSiri> its kind of odd though that exactly after he is featured on UWN he posts two very opensource unfriendly rants
[19:38] <LirazSiri> (someone should check into how that happened)
[19:40] <boredandblogging> will admit it is very odd
[19:45] <boredandblogging> i assume grubb does some great work on the forums
[19:45] <boredandblogging> otherwise it makes no sense
[19:49] <kennymc0> just read the interview for the first time. he seems condecending in his interview
[19:50] <tyche> He's 15.  What do you expect?  At that age, he thinks he knows everything.
[19:51] <kennymc0> true
[20:27] <LirazSiri> there is a little tidbit about rPath "supporting" Ubuntu on its rBuider service
[20:28] <LirazSiri> I read about this on LWN a few days back and tried to find out what it was all about. the "support" for Ubuntu is merely lip service. less than 400 packages out of 20,000. Its looks like a very half baked PR stunt on their part, not an actually useful service
[20:28] <LirazSiri> (for the record)
[20:30] <tyche> I'm sure.  But we just report what's been said.  We don't comment on it.
[20:30] <LirazSiri> right
[20:30] <LirazSiri> but don't you decide what goes in?
[20:30] <LirazSiri> do you have to cover every press release that mentions Ubuntu?
[20:31] <tyche> I don't, personally.  Though occasionally I have some input, like if I know that an article has been covered in a previous week.
[20:31] <LirazSiri> the press release in question mentions Ubuntu in the title and the first paragraph and doesn't provide any information beyond that about the service. Its a transparent stunt.
[20:31] <LirazSiri> ubuntu isn't mentioned in their wiki
[20:31] <LirazSiri> you can't find it anywhere on their website
[20:32] <LirazSiri> or their forums. I had to look awfully hard to find where they supported it. very underwhelming
[20:32] <nixternal> I would definitely hit up the rPath story since Ubuntu doesn't do it own appliance OS...rPath does it for us, which totally rocks as I use it almost on a daily basis at work
[20:33] <LirazSiri> actually Ubuntu does do its own appliance OS
[20:33] <LirazSiri> Ubuntu JeOS
[20:34] <nixternal> not any more...they dropped it
[20:34] <LirazSiri> on a personal note I don't see how rPath are adding anything to the table by proxying 400 ubuntu packages. Check out the repository: ubuntu.rpath.com
[20:34] <LirazSiri> really, I didn't know that
[20:34] <LirazSiri> I don't think they dropped it
[20:34] <nixternal> if you are an appliance builder or developer, it adds more than you can imagine
[20:35] <nixternal> they dropped it, I worked on it
[20:35] <LirazSiri> actually I am an appliance builder and developer
[20:35] <nixternal> so am I
[20:35] <LirazSiri> check out turnkeylinux.org
[20:35] <nixternal> you can't beat rPath
[20:35] <nixternal> I work for cleversafe (http://www.cleversafe.com)