deepfriedsquirre | I lost control of thunar, though it still displays new files. iIe tried to kill it with killall thunar and killall -9 thunar, but this failed. What can I do? | 00:26 |
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deepfriedsquirre | Hmm, what happened to this otherwise lively IRC channel? | 00:39 |
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ball | hey! I'm on irc! | 01:37 |
R1cochet | yes u Я | 01:37 |
R1cochet | ф | 01:45 |
R1cochet | how do i get all the characters in the character map applet to display? | 01:46 |
R1cochet | do i need to install all the language packs to do that | 01:46 |
R1cochet | ? | 01:46 |
* ball doesn't know what that is. | 01:47 | |
R1cochet | applications>accessories>character map | 01:48 |
ball | I broke my Xubuntu machine, so I can't try it. | 01:49 |
Xylia | Hello, does anyone know if it's possible to install Xubuntu using a flash drive? | 01:56 |
R1cochet | Xylia: not sure i think u might be able to | 02:02 |
Xylia | okay, thanks | 02:03 |
R1cochet | try the xubuntu website i think in there it tells how to do alternate installs | 02:03 |
Guest8225 | in xfce, how do i allign icons to the right? they all seem to allign left | 03:11 |
firecrotch | hellohello | 03:41 |
R1cochet | hihi | 03:41 |
R1cochet | what up redheaded stepchild | 03:42 |
firecrotch | :) | 03:44 |
* firecrotch is on fire | 03:44 | |
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bitmouse | Anybody know how to make the ubuntu installer totally leave your ntfs partition alone? | 04:34 |
B0BBY | Hello People. | 04:34 |
B0BBY | anybody know how to change the grub splash image? | 04:34 |
B0BBY | I have this need to make it even prettier. | 04:34 |
bitmouse | yeah here follow this link | 04:34 |
B0BBY | link... | 04:36 |
bitmouse | yeah freakin did bookmark the worlds most awesome page, ferk | 04:39 |
B0BBY | Hello Poeple. | 04:46 |
B0BBY | People. | 04:47 |
B0BBY | bitmouse: have windows xp running on this machine. | 04:47 |
B0BBY | and xubuntu is running on a small 5G parition. | 04:47 |
bitmouse | what xubuntu install did you use, and did you create a boot partition or have xubunutu install the linux boot files to the windows MBR? | 04:48 |
B0BBY | oh I see. yeah I just used the xubuntu CD. I booted into it in livecd mode then resized ntfs down. Then created the partition and the auto installed. | 04:49 |
B0BBY | so yeah it's in the main disk mbr. | 04:49 |
B0BBY | grub controls booting. | 04:49 |
Capa` | I have just installed xubuntu on my thinkpad ... very nice! | 04:50 |
R1cochet | how the pad? | 04:52 |
bitmouse | BOBBY: hmm, did you just let it do what ever it wanted to do, as far as install? | 04:53 |
B0BBY | bitmouse: right. Just let it install using default install scheme. This is a work laptop so I didn't want to mess with any partitions too m,uch. | 04:55 |
B0BBY | bitmouse: but when installing gentoo or something else, I'll mess with parititions little more freely. | 04:56 |
B0BBY | reboot for test. | 04:56 |
B0BBY | Hello Peopl. | 05:05 |
B0BBY | Hello People. | 05:05 |
bitmouse | hello | 05:10 |
B0BBY | ok, didn't work. rebooting again :) | 05:12 |
Ahmuck | hi. how is software raid set up in xubuntu? | 05:23 |
R1cochet | how come ristretto got replaced w/ gpicview? | 05:35 |
Havsalt | i've just installed xubuntu, want this computer to use openbox - help to install? | 05:50 |
MrNaz | I've just install Xubuntu on a ThinkPad X40. Install went fine, booted into it first time OK, but now when i boot it, I sometimes (about one boot in 3, I don't know what triggers it) get an error on boot that X fails to start and dropped to a CLI login. when i log in, the file system is read only, and i cant perform any write operations on any files, even with sudo... anyone seen this or something similar before ? | 06:17 |
R1cochet | will xmms work in xubuntu? | 06:59 |
Wicked | crap....when did this bug come back? https://bugs.launchpad.net/xfdesktop/+bug/77702 | 07:23 |
Wicked | i didnt have this issue on 8.04...but it seems to be back on 8.10 :( | 07:23 |
Wicked | xfdesktop and xfce4-menu-plug ar using 1/3 of my systems memory(2 gigs) | 07:24 |
R1cochet | how do i get a dvd to play? | 10:30 |
balachmar | How can I delete my saved session? It now starts with a few terminals open, but I do not want that. | 12:47 |
TheSheep | they are stored in ~/.cache/sessions | 12:48 |
balachmar | And it is save to delete anything in there? | 12:51 |
balachmar | Just to be sure :) | 12:51 |
TheSheep | yes | 12:52 |
balachmar | Thanks, will check now with a reboot | 12:52 |
hardcore | i installed gnome desktop then hanged my mind and uninstalled it, but the appliations that were installed and everything were still there. is there a 1 command that will remove it all? | 13:17 |
hardcore | *changed | 13:17 |
TheSheep | apt-get autoremove --purge | 13:17 |
hardcore | thanks | 13:18 |
hardcore | TheSheep, i did that i got this message E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable) | 13:20 |
hardcore | E: Unable to lock the download directory | 13:20 |
hardcore | do you know whats wrong? | 13:21 |
TheSheep | you have to put 'sudo' before the command, to execute it as root | 13:23 |
hardcore | i did | 13:25 |
hardcore | i don't understand why its doing this. maybe i'll just take 20 minutes to do a complete reinstall | 13:26 |
vidd | hardcore, what issue? | 13:28 |
hardcore | ok its working now, thanks man | 13:28 |
vidd | happy that just showing up fixes things! | 13:29 |
vidd | =] | 13:29 |
hardcore | now its saying the network manager applet could not find some required and it can't continue, but it does continue anyway | 13:30 |
hardcore | it says can't continue but still does haha | 13:31 |
* vidd uses wicd instead of nm | 13:31 | |
hardcore | huh? | 13:32 |
* vidd does not used the network manager app | 13:32 | |
* vidd uses the app "wicd" instead | 13:32 | |
hardcore | whats that? | 13:33 |
vidd | its a different network interface tool | 13:33 |
hardcore | oh ok | 13:33 |
hardcore | i think i'm just gonna do a reinstall | 13:34 |
hardcore | brb | 13:34 |
vidd | http://wicd.sourceforge.net/ | 13:34 |
hardcore | thanks | 13:34 |
vidd | might just as well try this b4 fresh install | 13:34 |
vidd | wicd requires you remove network manager completely | 13:35 |
hardcore | how do i do it? | 13:35 |
vidd | if ya like it, no fresh install needed | 13:35 |
hardcore | should i download wicd then try again? | 13:36 |
vidd | well....what is it that you are trying to do? | 13:36 |
vidd | remember....i cam in long after you stated your issue | 13:36 |
hardcore | get passed the network applet not finding stuff | 13:36 |
hardcore | its ok | 13:36 |
hardcore | i'm gonna install it and then try it again | 13:37 |
vidd | wicd is good at finding networks | 13:37 |
hardcore | wicd i mean | 13:37 |
vidd | http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=194573 is the download page for the deb | 13:37 |
vidd | let me know if you need any help setting things up | 13:38 |
vidd | =] | 13:38 |
hardcore | ok thanks | 13:38 |
vidd | btw....what kind of wifi card ya got? | 13:38 |
vidd | (have you made sure the wifi card works correctly) | 13:38 |
hardcore | i'm using a wired connection, but i do have a wifi card also | 13:39 |
vidd | have you verified the wifi card is configured correctly? | 13:39 |
hardcore | it works by default | 13:39 |
hardcore | no problem with the wifi at all | 13:40 |
vidd | has it ever connected to wifi since this install? | 13:40 |
hardcore | yep | 13:40 |
vidd | ok.... | 13:40 |
vidd | some people get broadcom cards that has the driver pre-installed...but no firmware for the card to actually work..... | 13:41 |
vidd | wanted to make sure something like this isnt happening to you =] | 13:41 |
hardcore | Error: conflicts withthe installed package 'network-manager' | 13:41 |
hardcore | thats what it said when i double clicked after downloaded | 13:41 |
vidd | right | 13:42 |
vidd | like i said...you have to completely remove network-manager | 13:42 |
hardcore | oh, how do i do that? | 13:42 |
vidd | the easiest way to install this is via command line ..... | 13:42 |
hardcore | oh ok | 13:42 |
hardcore | vidd, it says E: Couldn't find package network | 13:44 |
vidd | sudo apt-get remove --purge network-manager && sudo dpkg -i ~/Desktop/[pkg name] && sudo apt-get install -f | 13:44 |
hardcore | oh ok thanks | 13:44 |
vidd | the apt-get install -f may not be needed | 13:44 |
vidd | sorry...i type slow =] | 13:45 |
hardcore | do i just insert what its called on the desktop? | 13:45 |
vidd | yes | 13:45 |
vidd | rplace [pkg name] with the name of the package | 13:45 |
hardcore | do i include &&? | 13:46 |
vidd | the && means "after that, do this" | 13:46 |
vidd | its a way to string multiple commands into one line | 13:47 |
vidd | you could do just the "sudo ...." on seperate lines | 13:48 |
* vidd thinks he is adding to the confusion....... | 13:48 | |
hardcore | nah | 13:48 |
hardcore | is this software supported by canonical? | 13:50 |
vidd | no | 13:50 |
hardcore | oh | 13:50 |
hardcore | is it necessary to update it? | 13:50 |
vidd | not yet anyway | 13:50 |
hardcore | oh ok | 13:50 |
vidd | there is a repo for it..... | 13:51 |
hardcore | i don't know | 13:51 |
vidd | http://wicd.sourceforge.net/download.php | 13:51 |
vidd | that includes instructions for adding the repo as well | 13:51 |
hardcore | thanks | 13:52 |
* vidd does not add repos | 13:52 | |
vidd | hardcore, i figure there is no sence adding the repo's if you dont like the app and your going to format and re-install fresh | 13:55 |
vidd | =] | 13:55 |
hardcore | i added the repo | 13:55 |
hardcore | thanks | 13:55 |
vidd | then all upi need to do is sudo apt-get install wicd | 13:55 |
vidd | lemme know what ya think | 13:56 |
hardcore | do you like wicd better than network manager? | 13:57 |
vidd | yes | 13:58 |
vidd | its like comparing a moped to a 747 | 13:58 |
vidd | =] | 13:58 |
vidd | so what do you think? | 14:00 |
vidd | (you might need to launch it from the network menu the first time you use it) | 14:00 |
hardcore | i just did the sudo apt-get autoremove --purge command again and it said 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded | 14:01 |
vidd | well...then sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade | 14:02 |
hardcore | ok | 14:02 |
hardcore | ok brb | 14:03 |
hardcore | when i try to update i get a huge errormessage | 14:05 |
vidd | can you pastebin it for me | 14:06 |
vidd | !pastebin | hardcore | 14:06 |
ubottu | hardcore: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic) | 14:06 |
hardcore | how do i pastebin? | 14:06 |
vidd | see above =] | 14:06 |
vidd | chances are, you did not add the keyring after you added the repo, or you have that dpkg tool still open | 14:07 |
hardcore | how do i make it to where you can see the pastebin? | 14:08 |
vidd | when you save.....copy the new ULR | 14:09 |
vidd | (the address | 14:09 |
vidd | and paste that here | 14:09 |
hardcore | http://paste.ubuntu.com/75956/ | 14:09 |
vidd | hardcore, just as i suspected.....you forgot a step when adding the repo | 14:10 |
hardcore | oh ok, which step? | 14:11 |
vidd | just run this line: | 14:11 |
vidd | wget -q http://apt.wicd.net/wicd.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add - | 14:11 |
nyn | hi, how do I remove entries from either autostart or the /home/.config permanently? simply deleting them doesn't work | 14:11 |
hardcore | vidd do i just type that in the terminal? | 14:12 |
vidd | hardcore, just copy/paste ...but yes | 14:12 |
vidd | nyn, have you gone into the autostarted applications in the applications->settings->settings manager? | 14:13 |
hardcore | i have to type it, it only gives me the options for ircstuff | 14:13 |
vidd | [ctrl]+[c] (just like windows stole from unix) | 14:13 |
nyn | yes I have, the appliations that start up automatically after logging in are not even listed there, I found them in the /home/.confi though | 14:14 |
vidd | nyn, did you delete your saved sessions? | 14:14 |
nyn | I'm not even sure that I have any sessions saved, where would I look that up? | 14:15 |
vidd | hardcore, did you catch that? you have to use ctrl+c to copy, | 14:15 |
hardcore | oh ok | 14:15 |
hardcore | i found the same command on the site you posted earlier | 14:15 |
vidd | yes...that is where i got it to post here =] | 14:16 |
vidd | nyn, should be in your .cache/sessions folder | 14:16 |
hardcore | ok i tried to update and got that big error message again | 14:17 |
vidd | idk for sure nyn .... i never saved sessions ever since the powers that be added that retarded funtion auto-selected | 14:18 |
nyn | there are many files in ./cache/sessions most of them something with Thunar, can I just delete them and thats it? | 14:18 |
vidd | nyn, if any are needed, they will be re-written | 14:18 |
hardcore | vidd, still get the big error message | 14:19 |
nyn | alright then, thank you very much, that has been driving me crazy :) | 14:19 |
vidd | hardcore, there must be something using your sources.list file..... | 14:19 |
vidd | is synaptic open? that app that came up when you double-clicked the deb file on your desktop? | 14:20 |
hardcore | ok ok i'lltry that | 14:20 |
hardcore | synaptic is open | 14:20 |
vidd | that will do it | 14:20 |
hardcore | still get a big error message | 14:20 |
vidd | close synaptic (or reload, mark all updates, apply) | 14:21 |
vidd | pastebin it for me | 14:21 |
nyn | vidd, one last thing: I cannot remember ever having agreed to save any sessions and I'm very sure that I've never checked the respective box on the logout screen, how can I prevent any sessions from being saved? | 14:21 |
vidd | the box is auto-checked by default....you have to UNcheck the blasted, evil contraption | 14:22 |
hardcore | http://paste.ubuntu.com/75959/ | 14:22 |
nyn | it is not checked on my screen, anyway I'll reboot now and see if it worked :) | 14:23 |
vidd | hardcore, there was no error that time | 14:24 |
vidd | the update completed | 14:24 |
vidd | type "clear" | 14:24 |
vidd | then do "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" | 14:25 |
hardcore | oh ok | 14:25 |
vidd | the output you got was it reporting that it was able to check each repo in your sources.list file | 14:26 |
vidd | nyn, better? | 14:26 |
nyn | vidd: it worked, thank you very much :) | 14:26 |
hardcore | its not updating | 14:26 |
vidd | nyn, 86.50 Euro (plus tax) =] | 14:26 |
hardcore | i get the same message, and no updating | 14:26 |
nyn | XD | 14:26 |
vidd | hardcore, pastebin it? | 14:26 |
hardcore | http://paste.ubuntu.com/75964/ | 14:29 |
hardcore | instead of updating i get that | 14:29 |
vidd | hardcore, that IS the update output..... | 14:30 |
vidd | you need to sudo apt-get dist-upgrade | 14:30 |
vidd | that will take the updated list of packages, and install (upgrade) all packages that need to be upgraded | 14:31 |
vidd | *or rather, can be upgraded | 14:31 |
hardcore | robert@robert-laptop:~$ sudo apt-get dist-upgrade | 14:31 |
hardcore | Reading package lists... Done | 14:31 |
hardcore | Building dependency tree | 14:31 |
hardcore | Reading state information... Done | 14:31 |
hardcore | Calculating upgrade... Done | 14:31 |
hardcore | 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. | 14:31 |
hardcore | thats what it still says | 14:32 |
vidd | yeah...you are now up to date | 14:32 |
hardcore | oh ok | 14:32 |
hardcore | it usually displays the update box when i type sudo apt-get update | 14:32 |
vidd | in the future, try "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" | 14:32 |
hardcore | is there a reason that box doesn't come up anymore? | 14:32 |
vidd | hardcore, you are thinking "update-manager" not "sudo apt-get update" | 14:33 |
hardcore | i thought it is the same thing, before installing wicd it would bring up the updatemanager | 14:34 |
hardcore | is that a normal difference after installing wicd? | 14:34 |
vidd | no.... | 14:34 |
vidd | its the diffence between using command line tools and graphic tools | 14:35 |
TheKing | Hello, yesterday my screen was fine | 14:35 |
hardcore | but the command tool use to display the graphic tool, just like typing an app does | 14:35 |
TheKing | It was running @ 1028 x 768 | 14:35 |
vidd | before talking to me, you likely used synaptic to install programs | 14:35 |
TheKing | Now when I turned it on todayt | 14:35 |
TheKing | My display is blue and I have been reduced to 800 x 600 | 14:36 |
hardcore | can i still use synaptic to install programs? | 14:36 |
vidd | hardcore, absolutely | 14:36 |
hardcore | you should be able to change your resolution in the settings | 14:36 |
TheKing | hardcore, I used to be able to go up to 1024 x 768 | 14:36 |
TheKing | but now I cannot. | 14:36 |
hardcore | vidd, how come it doesn't display the graphic tool after typing it in anymore? just worried something is wrong | 14:36 |
vidd | its just i prefer to give one-line commands you copy/paste into a terminal then "click here....scroll down for six days.....click there...." | 14:37 |
TheKing | And my screen is completely covered in a shade of light blue | 14:37 |
TheKing | NVM | 14:37 |
TheKing | had a plug out. | 14:37 |
hardcore | TheKing, what kind of changes have you made any? if any | 14:37 |
vidd | retart | 14:37 |
vidd | anyway | 14:37 |
hardcore | vidd, how come before installing wicd typing sudo apt-get update would bring up the graphical tool but not now? | 14:38 |
vidd | hardcore, im not sure what graphic tool you are expecting to see | 14:38 |
hardcore | vidd, update manager | 14:38 |
vidd | apt-get update would NEVER bring up a graphic tool | 14:38 |
hardcore | really? i must be mistaken, sorry about that | 14:38 |
hardcore | is there a command to remove all software and other stuff added after installing gnome-desktop? | 14:39 |
hardcore | i removed gnome, but now there's all kinds of stuff on my system remaining | 14:39 |
vidd | !purexfce | hardcore | 14:39 |
ubottu | hardcore: If you want to remove all !KDE and !Gnome packages and have a default !Xubuntu system follow the instructions here « http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexfce » | 14:39 |
vidd | man! that ubottu is one smart robot! | 14:40 |
vidd | hardcore, there is a simple "copy this box and paste in your terminal" on that page | 14:41 |
hardcore | ok, thanks | 14:41 |
hardcore | yep, it is | 14:41 |
* vidd just recommends the "--purge" after "remove" commands in apt-get | 14:42 | |
hardcore | now i'm getting network manager could not remove required resources message again | 14:42 |
hardcore | oh ok | 14:42 |
hardcore | now i'm getting that message network applet could not find some required resources message again grrrrrrrrrrrrr | 14:44 |
hardcore | vidd, do you know what that means? | 14:44 |
nyn | can anyone recommend a vpn program besides network-manager that features pptp? | 14:44 |
hardcore | nyn, how about wicd? | 14:45 |
vidd | hardcore, you need to remove the network manager panel app | 14:45 |
hardcore | oh, how do i do that? | 14:46 |
vidd | hardcore, right-click on it, and choose "remove" | 14:46 |
hardcore | actually i redid the paste and i didn't get that message again, thanks man | 14:47 |
vidd | !info xvnc4viewer | 14:47 |
ubottu | xvnc4viewer (source: vnc4): Virtual network computing client software for X. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.1.1+xorg1.0.2-0ubuntu7 (intrepid), package size 139 kB, installed size 412 kB | 14:47 |
nyn | can I use wicd only for the vpn stuff and have my wireless connection still managed by wpa_supplicant? | 14:48 |
vidd | nyn, wicd works with wpa | 14:48 |
nyn | it's just that it took me forever to configure my notebook for wlan and I dont want any program to mess with the settings that I have now -.-' | 14:49 |
hardcore | vidd, thanks man | 14:50 |
nyn | so I'd rather keep wpa_suplplicant for the wireless connection and use the other program only for vpn purposes if that possible | 14:50 |
vidd | hardcore, np | 14:50 |
vidd | nyn, you can still use that vnc viewer with your existing wifi configuration | 14:51 |
nyn | hm, it says here that wicd is basically just a gui for wpa_supplicant.. | 14:54 |
nyn | before upgrading I tried to establish a vpn with pptpconfig, I would have liked to give that one another try but it seems to have been removed during the upgrade and I read that it has become obsolete due to some new features of the NM | 14:59 |
nyn | now I need an alternative since NM doesn't work for me | 14:59 |
vidd | yeah...i like how they "obsolete" stuff just because they star crap-app includes a tiny piece of it | 15:09 |
TheSheep | vidd: they? | 15:19 |
vidd | TheSheep, yes "they" | 15:23 |
vidd | the powers that be | 15:24 |
vidd | displayconfig-gtk is another excelent app that "they" obsoleted | 15:26 |
vidd | for no good reason | 15:26 |
vidd | not everyone uses a "stock" application | 15:27 |
TheSheep | vidd: but who is they? | 15:28 |
TheSheep | vidd: and why 'they' is not 'you'? | 15:28 |
vidd | "they" are the people that maintain the repos | 15:28 |
TheSheep | did you try talking to them? | 15:29 |
vidd | the least "they" should do is drop these apps to universe | 15:29 |
TheSheep | are you just complaining for the fun of complaining? | 15:29 |
* vidd just goes to debian and installs the lates .deb | 15:29 | |
nyn | vidd, do you happen to know of any alternative to NM and pptpcondig? I've pretty much tried everything so far nm, vpnc.. I cannot get it working -.- | 15:30 |
* vidd has never had the need for it | 15:30 | |
nyn | luckbox :) | 15:30 |
vidd | what did it do? | 15:31 |
nyn | nm did nothing that I could notice and vpnc told me that it was now running in the background but I've never been able to access the web | 15:31 |
vidd | nyn, how do you connect to the internet? and are you trying to use vnc? | 15:32 |
nyn | I connect via wlan and no I dont want to use vnc | 15:33 |
sancho21 | Will usb-creator remove all files in the selected partition of my usb drive? | 15:33 |
nyn | I want to establish a vpn with my university | 15:33 |
nyn | so that I get a uni-IP and be able to use certain services that are limited to users with uni-IP | 15:34 |
vidd | is the uni using a M$ vpn? | 15:34 |
nyn | at least they say that pptp encryption is required so I think they do | 15:35 |
vidd | nyn, did you install network-manager-pptp and network-manager-vpnc? | 15:36 |
nyn | yes both | 15:36 |
vidd | what about network-manager-openvpn? | 15:37 |
nyn | sec, I'll find out | 15:37 |
nyn | also installed apparently :) | 15:38 |
vidd | and it does not work for you....what fails? | 15:38 |
nyn | I cant tell, I configured the VPN in the NM applet and click "connect" and thats about it, nm never tells me if the connection failed or anything, it it as if nothing happens | 15:39 |
vidd | do you get some authentication error? no data traffic? or just not a specific IP range on your vpn? | 15:39 |
nyn | I dont get any information out of it and I dont if NM has some debug-file or anything | 15:39 |
nyn | *know | 15:40 |
vidd | nyn, so the big question is....how do you know it failed | 15:40 |
nyn | because I'm unable to use that service that requires the uni-IP, thats how I know | 15:40 |
vidd | nyn, this is outside my area of expertice...but i will try | 15:48 |
nyn | thank you | 15:49 |
Angel_inside | hey! | 15:50 |
vidd | nyn, i find a wealth of inhttp://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Intrepidformation.... | 15:50 |
doktoreas_ | hello everybody | 15:50 |
doktoreas_ | anyone knows a way for installing xubuntu using floppy and a usb external cdrom? | 15:51 |
Angel_inside | do you think xubuntu is a good choice for a PIII 800Mhz 128Mb RAM 40Gb HDD?? | 15:51 |
vidd | !floppy | doktoreas_ | 15:51 |
ubottu | doktoreas_: To mount floppy disks, see here : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MakeFloppyDriveAvailableToEveryone | 15:51 |
vidd | bah | 15:51 |
Angel_inside | doktoreas: can u boot from USB? | 15:51 |
doktoreas_ | Angel_inside, nope.. | 15:51 |
doktoreas_ | not using a usb disk | 15:51 |
doktoreas_ | the pc haven't a cdrom | 15:51 |
Angel_inside | doktoreas: I see | 15:52 |
vidd | doktoreas_, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation | 15:52 |
Angel_inside | will it work then? | 15:53 |
vidd | nyn, have you tried this: http://niftybits.wordpress.com/2008/06/12/vpn-into-windows-from-ubuntu-intrepid/ | 15:53 |
vidd | doktoreas_, you get my link? | 15:54 |
nyn | vidd, no but that sounds interesting, I'll definitely have a closer look | 15:55 |
vidd | Angel_inside, your system specs are better then what i am using (with xubuntu) right now! | 15:55 |
vidd | Angel_inside, but you will brobably want to use either the mini or the alt install disks | 15:56 |
vidd | the live (desktop) cd will be a bit sluggish to respond with such low ram | 15:56 |
vidd | (assuming it boots at all) | 15:56 |
vidd | nyn, let me know if that helps you out | 15:57 |
nyn | vidd, just follwing the instructions, I#ll let you know shortly :) | 15:58 |
nyn | vidd, didnt work and as usual, no comment on that from the nm -.- | 16:01 |
nyn | is there any file that would log what happens? | 16:02 |
Angel_inside | vidd: ok, I can use the alternate install then | 16:02 |
Angel_inside | vidd: which one do u recommend? 8.04 or 8.10¿? | 16:03 |
vidd | nyn dunno....try relaunching nm without the & at the end of the line.....it should show some output in the terminal | 16:03 |
Angel_inside | vidd: perhaps XFCE it's heavier than its predecessor | 16:03 |
doktoreas_ | vidd, thx yes | 16:03 |
Angel_inside | XFCE 4.42* | 16:03 |
vidd | Angel_inside, its the installer's that have issues....not the post-install system | 16:04 |
vidd | Angel_inside, i recomend the 8.10 | 16:04 |
Angel_inside | vidd: I know, but I suppose xubuntu 8.04 and 8.10 have slightly different system requirements | 16:04 |
vidd | Angel_inside, and as long as you are connecting to the internet via hard-wire, id use the mini iso | 16:05 |
Angel_inside | vidd: just wanna know which one would fit better my limited hardware conditions | 16:05 |
vidd | Angel_inside, do you want simple encryption? | 16:05 |
Angel_inside | vidd: I'm afraid I'm not, I'm conected via wifi | 16:05 |
nyn | ** Message: <info> Activating VPN connection 'Uni'. -- thats all I get | 16:06 |
vidd | Angel_inside, does the wifi work "out of the box" or do you not know? | 16:06 |
Angel_inside | it's 100% linux-comp but I haven't tried... I'm not sure about it | 16:06 |
vidd | nyn, and what happens when you try to access something there? | 16:06 |
vidd | Angel_inside, does it run windows or linux right now? | 16:07 |
Angel_inside | vidd: linux mint XFCE | 16:07 |
Angel_inside | vidd: and it's so slow | 16:07 |
vidd | Angel_inside, did you have to do any fuss to get the wifi to work? | 16:07 |
Angel_inside | vidd: no, just plug it | 16:08 |
vidd | Angel_inside, then go with the mini iso | 16:08 |
Angel_inside | vidd: will it connect thoroughly? | 16:08 |
vidd | Angel_inside, if there is no mess with wifi, you should be able to get wifi to work with the mini installer | 16:09 |
vidd | and get all your install stuff real-time | 16:09 |
vidd | or...use the alt cd | 16:10 |
* vidd prefers the mini since it gets all the latest-and-greatest during install....no "update-manager" after install | 16:10 | |
vidd | Angel_inside, one thing you also might want to consider is using something lighter then xfce....like lxde | 16:11 |
vidd | http://u-lite.org/ | 16:12 |
Angel_inside | I see | 16:12 |
Angel_inside | vidd: and how shall I install it from console? I mean, I'd install the OS without GUI and after that install lxde for instance | 16:13 |
vidd | Angel_inside, sudo apt-get install lxde | 16:14 |
nyn | vidd, I've only ever tried to access that service which basically is a scientific search engine that usually you have to pay for but that you can use for free if you have a uni-IP | 16:14 |
nyn | that service is denied to me due to the wrong IP | 16:14 |
vidd | nyn, so its an IP assignment issue | 16:14 |
Angel_inside | vidd: lol its in the repositories!! | 16:14 |
Angel_inside | vidd: ok, I think I'll give it a try | 16:15 |
Angel_inside | thak you! | 16:15 |
vidd | Angel_inside, yeah...thats why i recommend it | 16:15 |
Angel_inside | vidd: than you! | 16:15 |
nyn | yes exactly | 16:15 |
vidd | nyn, pastebin me the output of ifconfig | 16:15 |
Angel_inside | vidd: una pequeña duda | 16:26 |
Angel_inside | vidd: el XFCE incluido en LM XFCE se corresponde con el paquete xubuntu-desktop? | 16:26 |
vidd | Angel_inside, no hablo espanol | 16:26 |
Angel_inside | vidd: sorry, it was my fault | 16:27 |
Angel_inside | vidd: I'm chatting in different IRC channels and sometimes I mix everything up | 16:27 |
vidd | you want lxde not xubuntu-desktop | 16:27 |
vidd | xubuntu-desktop will install xfce, not lxde | 16:27 |
Angel_inside | vidd: do you know if XFCE included in LM XFCE is called xubuntu-desktop | 16:28 |
Angel_inside | vidd: I know, I just wanna uninstall it | 16:28 |
Angel_inside | vidd: after installing lxde | 16:28 |
Angel_inside | vidd: but I don't know if it's the same packet or not | 16:28 |
vidd | Angel_inside, check to see if lxde is available....... | 16:28 |
Angel_inside | vidd: linux mint is basically ubuntu | 16:29 |
Angel_inside | vidd: it should | 16:29 |
vidd | if it is, then simply remove xorg, with the --purge switch (this takes out all desktop stuff and thier config files) and apt-get install lxde | 16:30 |
Angel_inside | vidd: oops, it does not find lxde... | 16:32 |
vidd | Angel_inside, ok...then might i recommend http://u-lite.org/?q=node/2#install after you "sudo apt-get autoremove --purge xorg" *****dangerous code******will remove entire Desktop environment and leave you with a CLI-Only system******** | 16:34 |
vidd | Angel_inside, the above disclaimer is intended for others reading this | 16:35 |
vidd | =] | 16:35 |
ridoo | hello | 16:36 |
Angel_inside | hi | 16:37 |
Angel_inside | vidd: it's just the main page of ubuntu lite | 16:38 |
vidd | Angel_inside, scroll to the bottom..... | 16:38 |
vidd | there is a wget | 16:38 |
Angel_inside | vidd: yep | 16:39 |
vidd | make sure you get it BEFORE wiping out your desktop | 16:39 |
Angel_inside | vidd: sure | 16:39 |
Angel_inside | vidd: bout it seems to install the whole system | 16:40 |
Angel_inside | vidd: not only lxde | 16:40 |
vidd | lxde IS a whole system | 16:41 |
Angel_inside | vidd: you are joking, aren't you? | 16:41 |
vidd | its openbox on top of (either slim or gdm) with panels, applets, menus, etc | 16:42 |
Angel_inside | vidd: lol | 16:42 |
Angel_inside | vidd: I found a different way to install it | 16:50 |
Angel_inside | vidd: I just needed another rep | 16:50 |
vidd | Angel_inside, please post link? | 16:50 |
Angel_inside | vidd: the one you suggested installed ubuntu lite | 16:51 |
Angel_inside | vidd: of course | 16:51 |
Angel_inside | vidd: it's in spanish | 16:51 |
Angel_inside | vidd: but it's mainly | 16:51 |
Angel_inside | vidd: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/lxde/ubuntu hardy main | 16:51 |
Angel_inside | deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/lxde/ubuntu hardy main | 16:51 |
Angel_inside | add these repositiories | 16:52 |
Angel_inside | vidd: and apt-get install lxde | 16:52 |
Angel_inside | so easy | 16:52 |
vidd | Angel_inside, my spanish is ok....i need the key's script | 16:52 |
Angel_inside | vidd: ok | 16:52 |
Angel_inside | vidd: http://ubuntronics.blogspot.com/2008/06/instalar-lxde-en-ubuntu.html | 16:52 |
Angel_inside | vidd: it just sais what I told you | 16:53 |
Angel_inside | vidd: add rep & install | 16:53 |
vidd | hrm....no key | 16:54 |
Angel_inside | vidd: nop | 16:54 |
Angel_inside | abyway it works | 16:58 |
Angel_inside | anyway* | 16:58 |
vidd | Angel_inside, and what do you think? | 17:01 |
Angel_inside | vidd: unbelievable | 17:03 |
Angel_inside | vidd: it's just GREAT | 17:03 |
vidd | speedy? | 17:03 |
Angel_inside | vidd: quick, high usability, beautiful | 17:03 |
Angel_inside | vidd: yes! | 17:03 |
vidd | muy bueno? | 17:03 |
Angel_inside | vidd: and very close to gnome | 17:03 |
Angel_inside | vidd: as we say in Spain "cojonudo" | 17:04 |
vidd | and there you have to ruin it.... =] | 17:04 |
vidd | (comparing it to gnome | 17:04 |
vidd | i told ya my spanish socks | 17:04 |
vidd | =] | 17:04 |
* vidd is going to throw together his own distibution | 17:06 | |
Angel_inside | vidd: xDD | 17:07 |
Angel_inside | vidd: may I deduce you use KDE? | 17:07 |
Angel_inside | vidd: the problem now is I cannot uninstall XFCE | 17:07 |
* vidd uses lxde | 17:09 | |
vidd | Angel_inside, did you purge xorg like i said b4? | 17:10 |
Angel_inside | vidd: no | 17:10 |
vidd | you want to run the following command: | 17:10 |
Angel_inside | vidd: because I was unsure about the installation of lxde | 17:10 |
Angel_inside | vidd: but if I do purge it know I'll delete lxde, won't I? | 17:11 |
vidd | sudo apt-get autoremove --purge xorg && sudo apt-get install lxde | 17:11 |
Angel_inside | vidd: I see | 17:11 |
vidd | this will purge everything and reinstall lxde | 17:11 |
Angel_inside | vidd: but what if I do it from lxde? | 17:11 |
vidd | Angel_inside, no matter where you do it, you will need to reboot | 17:12 |
Angel_inside | vidd: ok, thx | 17:12 |
vidd | so its best to do it from a tty | 17:12 |
Angel_inside | vidd: I suppose | 17:13 |
Angel_inside | vidd: but I've understood that autoremove was only used to remove orphan packages | 17:13 |
vidd | Angel_inside, when you remove xorg, it will orphan ALOT | 17:14 |
vidd | so if you autoremove an app, it takes out the orphans too | 17:14 |
vidd | otherwise, you would "sudo apt-get remove --purge xorg && sudo apt-get autoremove --purge && sudo aptget install lxde | 17:16 |
vidd | =] | 17:16 |
vidd | see the difference? | 17:16 |
Angel_inside | vidd: yes, tahnks | 17:16 |
Angel_inside | vidd: any if I unistall xorg, will it be reinstalled when I install lxde? | 17:16 |
Angel_inside | thanks* | 17:17 |
Angel_inside | (poor handwriting) | 17:17 |
vidd | Angel_inside, yes...it should | 17:18 |
Angel_inside | vidd: it should... | 17:19 |
vidd | Angel_inside, if it dont...let me know.... (or sudo apt-get install lxde xorg to be sure) | 17:20 |
vidd | sudo apt-get autoremove --purge xorg && sudo apt-get install lxde xorg | 17:20 |
vidd | better? | 17:20 |
Angel_inside | vidd: how about sudo apt-get autoremove --purge xorg && sudo apt-get install xorg lxde | 17:21 |
vidd | ok | 17:21 |
Angel_inside | vidd: just in case | 17:21 |
* vidd notices that its just like 3x4 and 4x3 | 17:21 | |
Angel_inside | vidd: I thought the order you wrote it was the order it followed | 17:22 |
vidd | yes... | 17:22 |
vidd | but it should really make no real difference | 17:22 |
vidd | lxde is going to pull in gdm, wich will pull in xorg, so its a mute point | 17:23 |
Angel_inside | vidd: I see | 17:24 |
Angel_inside | vidd: I'll give it a try | 17:24 |
vidd | if you had modified your system to not drag in recommends, THEN it might make a difference (but i doubt it) | 17:24 |
Angel_inside | vidd: from tty, just in case | 17:24 |
Angel_inside | vidd: I dind't | 17:24 |
Angel_inside | didn't* | 17:24 |
Angel_inside | vidd: cross fingers, here it goes... | 17:24 |
vidd | crossing fingers and praying are not required.....=] | 17:26 |
Angel_inside | vidd: I hope so | 17:26 |
Angel_inside | vidd: I'll tell you in a while | 17:26 |
Angel_inside | vidd: I've found the packages | 17:30 |
Angel_inside | vidd: it's just xfce | 17:30 |
Angel_inside | vidd; now I can find the dependencies... | 17:30 |
Angel_inside | vidd: so I don't need to uninstall xorg | 17:30 |
Angel_inside | vidd: good! | 17:30 |
vidd | Angel_inside, how deep are you going to go to get rid of all those unneded dependencies? | 17:46 |
vidd | also Angel_inside i recommend file-roller over xarchiver | 17:47 |
Angel_inside | not much further than apt-cache depend xfce4 | 17:47 |
Angel_inside | vidd: :-P | 17:47 |
vidd | Angel_inside, that only removes the first layer.... | 17:48 |
vidd | what about the items in the second, third and fourth layer? | 17:48 |
vidd | (for example, xfce depends on item 1, item 1 depends on item 2, item 2 depends on item 3, 4, and 5, item 3 depends on ....and so on | 17:49 |
Angel_inside | vidd: good point | 17:50 |
vidd | in fact, x11-common might be a better choice then xorg! | 17:50 |
Angel_inside | vidd: so the only way is reinstalling xorg... | 17:51 |
Angel_inside | vidd: x11? really? | 17:51 |
* vidd noticed that only removing xorg left items such as gxine and gftp on his system | 17:51 | |
Angel_inside | vidd: ... | 17:52 |
Angel_inside | vidd: so how can you remove everything in relation to XFCE? | 17:52 |
Angel_inside | (or any other desktop manager) | 17:52 |
vidd | you can either "autoremove --purge" or get to the very lowest common denominator | 17:53 |
vidd | i cannot guarentee that autoremove will get everything | 17:53 |
vidd | but x11-common looks like the lowest common denominator | 17:54 |
vidd | everything gui-based depends on it at some point | 17:54 |
vidd | short of formating and installing a CLI-only system, autoremoving and purging x11-common is the most tourough | 17:56 |
* vidd cant spell | 17:56 | |
Angel_inside | vidd: I see | 17:56 |
Angel_inside | vidd: xD sometimes it also happens to me | 17:56 |
vidd | ppl talk to me for my wonderful assistance....not my horrible spelling =] | 17:57 |
* vidd would remove more of the basic system if he could..... | 17:59 | |
* vidd would like to build his system with only grub, the kernel and apt-get | 18:00 | |
Angel_inside | vidd: xDDD I'd love it | 18:04 |
Angel_inside | I must go | 18:05 |
Angel_inside | vidd: thanks so much for your help | 18:05 |
Angel_inside | vidd: and for your attention | 18:05 |
truder | hi, i've just installed xubuntu 8.10, and i'm having a problem with connecting to wifi.. (i confirmed that wifi is ok, by using a puppy live cd and i connected fine). In xubuntu, although i'm seeing my ap listed, i cannot get it to connect. | 18:06 |
truder | anyone may help please ? | 18:06 |
vidd | truder, what does lspci (or lsusb) say your wifi card is? | 18:07 |
vidd | \0. sinbox | 18:07 |
* sinbox waves back at vidd | 18:08 | |
truder | let me confirm.. | 18:08 |
truder | hmm.. vidd, my card is connected via pcmcia, would it appear with those commands ? | 18:11 |
vidd | lspcmcia | 18:12 |
truder | ok, so i have socket1: device 0: orinoco_cs | 18:12 |
* vidd suspects its a broadcomm chipset | 18:12 | |
vidd | truder, and how about lspci? | 18:13 |
truder | btw, this used to work with the previous xubuntu | 18:13 |
sinbox | you uknow the card model truder? | 18:13 |
vidd | just want to double-check | 18:13 |
truder | mn128 ss-lan card 11 | 18:13 |
Capa` | in debian, i would set the essid manually in terminal, then run "dhclient" | 18:14 |
truder | i'm not sure which entry to mention in lspci, cause i have: (host bridge, pci bridge, 2 cardbus bridges, ethernet controller, serial, multimedia audio, bridge, ide, usb, another bridge, and vga compatible controllers) | 18:15 |
vidd | truder, can you open nm? | 18:16 |
vidd | (network manager) | 18:16 |
vidd | you might want to set a static IP | 18:17 |
truder | i've already tried setting a static IP, but kept getting the same | 18:17 |
vidd | what does iwlist tell you? | 18:18 |
vidd | *iwconfig | 18:19 |
sinbox | all the info is in japanese for that card :/ | 18:20 |
vidd | truder, what does iwconfig tell you? | 18:23 |
truder | IEEE 802.11b ESSID "clint" Nickname:"Prism I" Mode: Managed frequency2.412ghz, Access Point: None: | 18:24 |
truder | and link quality noise signal stuff.. | 18:25 |
truder | the wireless network itself is listed in the network manager, and the signal seems ok | 18:26 |
truder | however, if i click on it, after a few seconds i'm disconnected | 18:26 |
vidd | truder, what is your wifi network's actual ESSID? | 18:26 |
vidd | truder, then next question is.... | 18:26 |
truder | the ssid is clint, let me confirm essid | 18:26 |
vidd | what kind of security do you have on that wifi network? | 18:27 |
truder | at the moment, no security at all.. | 18:27 |
truder | it is open, no encryption nothing | 18:27 |
truder | i wanted to get this to work first | 18:27 |
vidd | no MAC filtering? | 18:28 |
truder | not even that no | 18:28 |
truder | the strange thing is that with the previous version of xubuntu, i connect with a fresh install | 18:29 |
vidd | are you talking to us on that system? | 18:31 |
truder | nope on another machine | 18:31 |
vidd | truder, try this.... "sudo /etc/ini.d/networking restart | 18:31 |
vidd | truder, try this.... "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart | 18:32 |
truder | k ( i've restarted the machine more than once though).. trying it now | 18:32 |
truder | ok, i got ignoring unknown interface eth0=eth0 | 18:33 |
truder | dunno what's that... eth0 is a wired connection | 18:33 |
truder | and it's ok as far as i can see | 18:33 |
truder | and no, i got disconnected again | 18:34 |
vidd | truder, your network interfaces has eth0 enabled, but network manager wants to control it (causing a conflict) | 18:34 |
vidd | open your /etc/network/interfaces and edit out everything but lo settings | 18:34 |
vidd | save that, and restart the networking again | 18:35 |
truder | i only have two lines: auto lo and iface lo inet loopback | 18:35 |
vidd | there is no mention of eth0? | 18:36 |
truder | not at all no | 18:36 |
vidd | hrm | 18:36 |
truder | and yes i'm sure eth0 is connected | 18:36 |
vidd | so am i | 18:36 |
truder | eth0 is a wired connection, and i'm getting the ip via dhcp | 18:36 |
truder | ( from the wireless router ) | 18:36 |
* vidd hates network manager | 18:37 | |
truder | vidd, do you think i'd solve the problem by using a different network manager ? | 18:37 |
* vidd uses wicd | 18:38 | |
vidd | http://wicd.sourceforge.net/download.php | 18:38 |
truder | i'll give it a try | 18:38 |
truder | thanks for your help | 18:38 |
truder | i'll be back later.. thanks for now :) | 18:40 |
sinbox | ops gone | 18:40 |
sinbox | definitely a broadcom chipset: Chipset Broadcom BCM4306, BCM2050 | 18:40 |
sinbox | had to use some special setup tool for my broadcom pcmcia card before the laptop died | 18:41 |
penguin-up | i just instlled PC/OS(like xubuntu) this AM.....create new folder is greyed out....are permissions required?? | 18:43 |
sinbox | then again his card seems to work a bit, I had to follow those instructions here: http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43#firmwareinstallation and then it just worked | 18:43 |
vidd | sinbox, so truder has a bcm chip eh? | 18:43 |
vidd | penguin-up, WHERE did you create the folder? and which user created it? | 18:44 |
penguin-up | vidd: in file system | 18:45 |
penguin-up | i the admin....i think | 18:45 |
vidd | penguin-up, can you state the full path? | 18:45 |
penguin-up | naw...i don know about paths....just graphic method! | 18:45 |
vidd | and HOW did you create it | 18:46 |
vidd | so you opened up whatever file manager you were using....right-clicked and said "create folder"? | 18:46 |
penguin-up | i want to just click on file then create folder, just like windows....but it wont let me...it greyed out | 18:46 |
vidd | perhaps you should go to your OS's chatroom | 18:47 |
vidd | since you apparently dont want to answer my questions so that i can help you with a system ive never seen b4 | 18:47 |
penguin-up | the help menu said that this is the chatroom for PC OS | 18:47 |
vidd | no...this is for ubuntu xfce | 18:48 |
penguin-up | PC OS same as Xubuntu i believe | 18:48 |
vidd | (commonly called xubuntu) | 18:48 |
penguin-up | PC OS uses Ubuntu XFCE | 18:48 |
vidd | no....pcos is pcos | 18:48 |
vidd | what file manager do you use? | 18:49 |
penguin-up | I think PC OS is brand new but same as Xubuntu | 18:49 |
vidd | are you going to answer my questions or not? | 18:49 |
penguin-up | not sure....gnome i think | 18:49 |
vidd | gnome is not a file manager...that is a desktop environment | 18:50 |
vidd | in the tool you opened to create the folder..... | 18:50 |
penguin-up | then maybe KDE....i dunno | 18:50 |
penguin-up | it doesn say | 18:50 |
vidd | click "help"->"about" | 18:50 |
privet_ | is this a good place to talk about "networkmanager applet", or is there a better room? | 18:50 |
vidd | privet_, what problem you having with it? | 18:51 |
penguin-up | Welcome to PC/OS OpenDesktop 2009 | 18:51 |
vidd | are you on the live cd? penguin-up | 18:51 |
privet_ | vidd: not really "problem" as such... I just have 2 modem devices that are not being recognized by nm and I would like to find out what I can do to add them into the config etc. | 18:51 |
penguin-up | no installed | 18:52 |
penguin-up | installed it this AM on HD | 18:52 |
vidd | privet_, you probably need to install the drivers for them....sorry....im no good with dial-up =\ | 18:52 |
vidd | penguin-up, so you right-click the desktop to add a folder? | 18:53 |
penguin-up | no i click the file sys icon on desktop | 18:53 |
privet_ | vidd: no- they work fine (manually running pppd), but I would nm to see them and do the dialing for me... | 18:53 |
privet_ | vidd: thanks anyway, will keep looking | 18:53 |
vidd | privet_, like i said...im no good with dial-up..... | 18:54 |
penguin-up | ahhh, yes i can create new folder on desktop....now to move it !! | 18:54 |
vidd | privet_, i know the old network-admin handled dial-up....try installing that | 18:54 |
privet_ | vidd: will try, thanks. | 18:54 |
vidd | penguin-up, so right-click on this folder you created and choose "properties" | 18:55 |
penguin-up | privit: when i used dialup i had to download gnomePPP dialer for ubuntu....hope that helps | 18:55 |
penguin-up | ok....it says read only....how do i change that | 18:56 |
vidd | penguin-up, first....who owns it? | 18:57 |
vidd | penguin-up, and how does one get this PC/OS? | 18:58 |
penguin-up | download from net.....680mb then make disk image | 18:58 |
vidd | penguin-up, WHERE???????? | 18:59 |
vidd | what is the home page | 18:59 |
* vidd has never heard of it | 18:59 | |
* vidd found it....pc-os.org | 19:01 | |
penguin-up | vidd: go to http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=pcos and check it out | 19:02 |
vidd | penguin-up, when your right-clicked the folder, and chose properties, the window SHOULD have told you the folder owner....who is it? | 19:02 |
penguin-up | it says group then my name | 19:03 |
vidd | it should also say Owner: (name) | 19:04 |
vidd | if the folder isnt owned by someone, then no-one can use it | 19:04 |
penguin-up | yes....owner name | 19:04 |
penguin-up | owner name and my name | 19:05 |
vidd | open up a terminal window | 19:05 |
penguin-up | it is open | 19:06 |
vidd | type "thunar" and hit [enter] | 19:06 |
penguin-up | i am there | 19:07 |
vidd | navigate to this folder you created | 19:07 |
vidd | do you see it? | 19:07 |
penguin-up | ahhhhh now create folder is not greyed out......tnx | 19:07 |
vidd | yes? no? dont care? | 19:08 |
penguin-up | it works there now no probs.... | 19:08 |
penguin-up | live and learn on chatrooms :-) | 19:08 |
vidd | ok...so the reason you had an issue is because you dont have a /Desktop folder | 19:08 |
vidd | close thunar | 19:09 |
penguin-up | ok | 19:09 |
vidd | type "cd /home/"[your username] | 19:09 |
penguin-up | looks like i can only do stuff in terminal not always in file manager | 19:10 |
vidd | for example, if your logon name for this system is "owner" you would type "cd /home/owner" | 19:10 |
penguin-up | aha | 19:10 |
vidd | penguin-up, terminal is what im most familiar with | 19:10 |
penguin-up | i am more familiar with graphic mode! ur cheque is in the mail | 19:11 |
vidd | ok...so are you now seeing "~$" at the end of your prompt? | 19:11 |
vidd | or do you see "~#"? | 19:12 |
penguin-up | tnx....i gotta run now.....CU next time ....tnx agn | 19:12 |
vidd | ok...so much for actually HELPING the guy! | 19:12 |
sinbox | hehe | 19:12 |
sinbox | well you got him to get to where he wanted to | 19:12 |
* vidd makes a note of the IP address to auto-ignore it | 19:12 | |
dcolish | come on, if you had a nickel for everyone of those | 19:13 |
sinbox | so, ubuntu based with Xfce and maintained by canonical | 19:13 |
sinbox | but with all the proprietary codecs included it would seem | 19:13 |
vidd | dcolish, i already have half the internet on my auto-ignore list...what are you tolking about? | 19:14 |
vidd | sinbox, so it would appear that i want NOTHING AT ALL to do with that OS | 19:14 |
sinbox | wowow | 19:14 |
sinbox | K-line | 19:14 |
dcolish | vidd: you know, if you had a nickel for everyone on auto ignore, you'd, uh, be rich | 19:15 |
sinbox | ? | 19:15 |
vidd | dcolish, thats my brother....i dont want to be him! | 19:15 |
vidd | =] | 19:15 |
dcolish | nice | 19:15 |
* vidd is the EVIL twin | 19:16 | |
vidd | now....what is the default audio controler that saves your volume settings when you restart x? | 19:17 |
vidd | ok....so lets start with "alsa"! | 19:17 |
dcolish | i think audio settings must be saved at a lower level than the graphical layer, right alsamixer or aumix would be good places to start | 19:18 |
vidd | dcolish, before i removed x11-common, it was fine | 19:19 |
vidd | so it has to be above the graphical scale | 19:19 |
vidd | *layer* | 19:19 |
dcolish | i expected it wasn't that poorly designed | 19:20 |
vidd | sweet....all i had to do was install sound! | 19:21 |
vidd | amazing how that works! | 19:21 |
TheSheep | vidd: install sound? | 19:22 |
scribawf | How do I get drivers for USB to Serial Converter (PL-2303) on Xubuntu? | 19:24 |
dcolish | scribawf: did you google it yet? | 19:25 |
vidd | TheSheep, alsa wasnt installed...so that was why it didnt work | 19:25 |
scribawf | dcolish; Yup, but only found for Redhat and the supplied drivers also for Redhat ONLY! | 19:26 |
dcolish | is it an rpm or do you get source code too? | 19:26 |
vidd | scribawf, strange..... | 19:27 |
dcolish | !alien | 19:27 |
ubottu | RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous and unsupported) | 19:27 |
vidd | i googled "pl-2303 ubunutu" and the first thing i got was http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=322759 | 19:27 |
scribawf | dsolish; appears to be source didn't see anything for RPM | 19:27 |
scribawf | vidd; OK will try that | 19:28 |
scribawf | vidd; gotta admit didn't fully use google search properly - forgot ubuntu after device! | 19:28 |
vidd | scribawf, the more keywords ya use, the closer to what you want youll find yourself! | 19:29 |
scribawf | thanks for info will struggle through it | 19:29 |
dcolish | scribawf: did you read the whole thread that you shared? | 19:29 |
dcolish | oh vidd, you got that link ma bad | 19:30 |
vidd | =] | 19:30 |
dcolish | the solution is on the last page towards the bottom | 19:30 |
scribawf | dcolish; going to ck the thread vidd sent | 19:30 |
* vidd is bad too | 19:30 | |
dcolish | scribawf: you'll need to use alien, as suggested before to install the rpm of the drivers | 19:30 |
scribawf | dcolish; don't think have that on board sys (alien) but will give me something to do | 19:31 |
scribawf | tnx again, and sure I'll be back if I get hung up! | 19:32 |
dcolish | ok good luck | 19:32 |
scribawf | I'll probably need it LOL | 19:32 |
vidd | now i need a light-weight browser that is able to use java and flash | 19:33 |
dcolish | !opera | 19:33 |
ubottu | opera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser. Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" (dapper only) is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser | 19:33 |
vidd | dcolish, opera is out | 19:33 |
vidd | its not free | 19:34 |
vidd | !browser | 19:34 |
ubottu | Browsers available for Ubuntu: Firefox (GTK, Gecko engine), Konqueror (KDE/Qt, KHTML engine), Epiphany (GTK, Gecko engine), Dillo (GTK), w3m (terminal-based), Links2 (terminal-based or graphical, see !man page), edbrowse (command-line), Opera (Qt, proprietary) | 19:34 |
vidd | !epiphany | 19:34 |
ubottu | Sorry, I don't know anything about epiphany | 19:34 |
vidd | !epiphany-browser | 19:35 |
ubottu | Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) | 19:35 |
vidd | !Epiphany | 19:35 |
ubottu | Sorry, I don't know anything about Epiphany | 19:35 |
vidd | !dillo | 19:35 |
ubottu | Sorry, I don't know anything about dillo | 19:35 |
vidd | !firefox | 19:36 |
ubottu | firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins | 19:36 |
vidd | of course | 19:36 |
dcolish | why dont you want to use opera again? | 19:38 |
tmpnick2 | Hi, I'd like to convert a bootable iso to encrypted iso, burn it and be asked for a password when I boot from that iso. Please suggest me a solution for GNU/Linux, because I can't really find it. Thank you | 19:38 |
vidd | dcolish, because it use QT for starters | 19:39 |
vidd | thats 3 strikes right there | 19:40 |
dcolish | vidd: what do you have against qt? | 19:40 |
vidd | then...its propriatary...might just as well us IE! | 19:40 |
dcolish | but you like flash and java? | 19:40 |
vidd | i dont LIKE flash and java....i NEED flash and java | 19:41 |
vidd | believe me....there is a HUGE differnce | 19:41 |
dcolish | so why dont you like qt again? | 19:42 |
vidd | its the crap KDE is built on | 19:42 |
TheSheep | #xubuntu-offtopic surely is empty these days | 19:43 |
dcolish | sorry | 19:43 |
dcolish | vidd: if you'd like to continue, i'm on that channel as well | 19:44 |
vidd | its not really "off-topic" | 19:44 |
vidd | nor is it what i really want to chat about | 19:44 |
TheSheep | it is not | 19:44 |
TheSheep | I just thought I'd advertise it a bit :) | 19:45 |
dcolish | ok whatever | 19:45 |
vidd | =] | 19:45 |
dcolish | i'll never agree that qt is garbage especially now that its got solid webkit integration | 19:46 |
dcolish | kde is another project in itself that is qt based | 19:46 |
TheSheep | dcolish: it's very uncomfortable to mix gui toolkits | 19:46 |
TheSheep | dcolish: each one of them has its own best practices and design decissions | 19:47 |
vidd | impressive....flashplugin-nonfree didnt try to bring in firefox | 19:47 |
TheSheep | vidd: do I sense sercasm? | 19:47 |
TheSheep | sarcasm even | 19:47 |
dcolish | TheSheep: thats non-sense as far as it being uncomfortable | 19:47 |
vidd | TheSheep, no...im serious..... | 19:48 |
dcolish | TheSheep: qt does a great job of being cross platform which is its purpose | 19:48 |
dcolish | as a developer i'd much rather write for qt than gtk | 19:48 |
* vidd thought for sure that *buntu would do everything it could to cram that bloated browser down his throat | 19:48 | |
TheSheep | dcolish: gtk is hard for developers | 19:49 |
TheSheep | dcolish: that's true | 19:49 |
* TheSheep crams msie 8 down vidd's throat | 19:49 | |
* vidd uses linux, linux EATS M$ products for breakfast! | 19:50 | |
vidd | =] | 19:50 |
* dcolish likes w3m | 19:51 | |
TheSheep | dcolish: w3m doesn't even support https | 19:51 |
TheSheep | lynx with vi keys :) | 19:52 |
vidd | TheSheep, speaking of M$ Inescapable Evil, did you ever get the xubuntu site to load properly? | 19:52 |
dcolish | TheSheep: yes it does, just tested it | 19:52 |
TheSheep | vidd: I thought we fixed it with knome... | 19:52 |
TheSheep | dcolish: maybe that was password-protected sites... something like that... or maybe they fixed it already | 19:53 |
vidd | The-Kernel, ive been out of the loop for a while =] | 19:53 |
TheSheep | vidd: but you *did* see the new site? | 19:53 |
dcolish | TheSheep: probably fixed it, works well actually. I still the lack of js support for cli browsers | 19:53 |
TheSheep | dcolish: would be pretty useless without css support | 19:54 |
vidd | TheSheep, yeah...but M$IE (Inescapable Evil) does not display it properly | 19:54 |
vidd | still | 19:54 |
dcolish | TheSheep: good point, they should work on that too! | 19:55 |
vidd | cli browsers have pretty much gone the way of the MAC | 19:57 |
vidd | *i mean* diansaur | 19:57 |
vidd | =] | 19:57 |
dcolish | uh last time i checked MAC is still pretty important. You arp much? | 19:57 |
vidd | MAC hardware is dead...its all the same now | 19:58 |
vidd | since they went with the intel chip, the only consideration now is OS | 19:59 |
* TheSheep looks nervously towards #x-ot | 19:59 | |
sinbox | still has a long shelf life with all the mac fans out there | 19:59 |
vidd | there is no reason to pay extra for the same hardware | 19:59 |
sinbox | of course there is | 19:59 |
sinbox | it's a "brand" thing | 19:59 |
vidd | and now we are getting WAY offtopic | 19:59 |
sinbox | true | 20:00 |
TheSheep | why don't we just all go there and stop worrying? | 20:00 |
* vidd has actual issues.... | 20:00 | |
vidd | epiphany browser wont load =[ | 20:00 |
TheSheep | vidd: what's the error? | 20:01 |
vidd | something about failed to execute dbus-launch to autoloaunch D-Bus session | 20:01 |
TheSheep | weird, xfce should start a dbus session on login | 20:02 |
* vidd doesnt HAVE xfce | 20:02 | |
dcolish | oh, what are you running? | 20:02 |
vidd | slim, openbox | 20:03 |
TheSheep | then I guess it's a bug in whatever desktop environment you are running | 20:03 |
dcolish | check for dbus-launch being installed | 20:03 |
TheSheep | this is the moment when "all that useless cruft" proves useful ater all | 20:04 |
dcolish | yeah dbus is pretty cool | 20:04 |
vidd | yeah...and its alreaduy installed too | 20:05 |
dcolish | is the daemon started? | 20:05 |
vidd | i was missing dbus-x11 | 20:06 |
dcolish | what files are in there? seems like that should be a dep for anything dbus | 20:06 |
vidd | dcolish, no...its for some things that are graphical that need dbus =] | 20:07 |
vidd | (i would assume | 20:08 |
dcolish | from my understanding of dbus, its also purpose if so graphical applications can communicate on the desktop, hence its name, desktop-bus (dbus) | 20:09 |
dcolish | if/is | 20:09 |
vidd | what do i know? | 20:10 |
vidd | im just trying to completely gut all excess from my system and get as lean and mean as possible | 20:10 |
dcolish | its actually a really cool feature of x11, similar to growl on osx | 20:11 |
* vidd is still upset that adobe/macromedia refuse to post a linux version of shockwave | 20:12 | |
dcolish | vidd: so you're using openbox, how do you like that compared to fluxbox? | 20:12 |
vidd | dunno...never used fluxbox | 20:12 |
dcolish | i thought shockwave was dead and flash is now shockwave | 20:12 |
dcolish | or replaced shockwave | 20:13 |
vidd | but its nice | 20:13 |
vidd | no...there are still shockwave apps scattered about the web | 20:13 |
dcolish | are you a big cli junkie? if so check out awesome, dwm, wmii, xmonad, stumpwm | 20:13 |
* vidd is not a cli junkie....just running VERY lightweight hardware | 20:14 | |
vidd | nice....sun-java6-plugin didnt drag in firefox either | 20:17 |
* vidd better double-check that something else didnt sneak it in | 20:17 | |
sinbox | hehe, you sure seem to have something against firefox | 20:18 |
vidd | i have a system with only 64+32 mb ram | 20:18 |
vidd | firefox eats it alive | 20:19 |
dcolish | how flash and java on that? | 20:21 |
dcolish | hows | 20:21 |
vidd | epiphany-browser works with flash and java! | 20:21 |
vidd | dcolish, i will let you know when i get this set up on that system | 20:22 |
sinbox | ah yes I understand, funny the xubuntu docs recommend a minimum of 192mb of ram for 8.04 | 20:22 |
vidd | yeah...im only like 100 MB ram short =] | 20:22 |
dcolish | vidd: does openbox provide a desktop or do you have to build it yourself? | 20:23 |
vidd | dcolish, its a desktop | 20:23 |
vidd | mostly...its your file manager that controls your desktop, more then the wm | 20:23 |
dcolish | i see, it can replace the actual wm component of a given desktop env | 20:24 |
vidd | i used lxde, so i dont know how much is openbox, and how much is lxde, and how much is pacmanfs | 20:25 |
vidd | wow...this browser practically flies! | 20:27 |
dcolish | Epiphany? | 20:28 |
vidd | yeah | 20:29 |
vidd | its lighter then ff | 20:30 |
djbushdio | here's a stupid question: if i uninstall xfce, when i start up will a land at a terminal? | 20:33 |
djbushdio | *i land at a terminal | 20:33 |
vidd | djbushdio, no....you will get an error message when gdm fails to load | 20:33 |
vidd | =] | 20:34 |
vidd | djbushdio, no....you will get an error message when gdm fails to load | 20:34 |
djbushdio | oh. | 20:34 |
djbushdio | problem. | 20:34 |
vidd | do you WANT to get a CLI-only? | 20:34 |
djbushdio | mebbe | 20:34 |
djbushdio | not just yet, but maybe later | 20:35 |
dcolish | djbushdio: turn off gdm then | 20:35 |
vidd | if you WANT cli-only....the you want to 'sudo apt-get --autoremove --purge x11-common' | 20:35 |
vidd | if you just want to boot to a cli for just the session, then choose "terminal" from the session list on the login page | 20:37 |
djbushdio | ok, might try that in virtual machine to make sure | 20:37 |
djbushdio | yeah, did see that on session list, but not full screen | 20:37 |
vidd | djbushdio, if you want full scree cli----just use one of your 6 tty screens | 20:38 |
djbushdio | tty? (acronym not sure) | 20:38 |
vidd | [ctrl]+[alt]+[f1] (or f2, f3, etc | 20:38 |
vidd | !tty | 20:39 |
ubottu | To get to the TTY terminals 1-6, use the keystroke ctrl + alt + F1-F6 respectively (Alt+F7 will get you back to your graphical login). To change the resolution for your TTY, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ChangeTTYResolution. | 20:39 |
vidd | dunno what tty stands for, just know that its full screen terminal =] | 20:39 |
dcolish | teletypewriter | 20:44 |
dcolish | any terminal has tty in unix, not just the fullscreen ones on boot | 20:45 |
djbushdio | so to get the terminal, press ctrl-alt-fx where x is 1-6, and this is at the login screen. | 20:48 |
djbushdio | f7 is graphical | 20:48 |
dcolish | no on boot, once gdm starts it locks you out of all other tty | 20:49 |
dcolish | that is why you'd need to stop gdm from starting on boot | 20:49 |
djbushdio | so when at boot, upsplash? | 20:50 |
dcolish | which is reversable as well, sudo update-rc.d -f gdm remove | 20:50 |
dcolish | yes | 20:50 |
djbushdio | ill try that next time. | 20:50 |
dcolish | to add it back sudo update-rc.d gdm defaults | 20:50 |
dcolish | also see man update-rc.d and man gdm | 20:51 |
djbushdio | So in summary, press ctrl-alt-fx (where x is 1-6) at boot to get terminal only. Restart to get graphical. | 20:51 |
vidd | djbushdio, almost.... | 20:52 |
vidd | ctrl-alt-f7 to get back to graphical | 20:52 |
vidd | or restart if you want to.... | 20:52 |
vidd | or sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart | 20:52 |
vidd | or..../.. =] | 20:53 |
djbushdio | I'll probably just restart | 20:53 |
vidd | as you can see, there are many ways to do the same thing in linux | 20:53 |
djbushdio | yeah... | 20:53 |
vidd | djbushdio, that is the LEAST efficiant method! | 20:53 |
djbushdio | yeah, well, its the easiest to remember... | 20:54 |
vidd | it shouldnt be.... | 20:54 |
djbushdio | and it works... | 20:54 |
vidd | if you can remember ctrl-alt-f1 to get away from the gui, you should remember ctrl-alt-f7 to get back! | 20:54 |
vidd | rebooting is like smashing your car into a tree to get a fly off your windsheild! | 20:56 |
djbushdio | interesting metaphor, somehow i like it. | 20:57 |
vidd | actually, its a simile (metaphors do not include words such as "like") | 20:58 |
vidd | =] | 20:58 |
djbushdio | oh right, forgot the "like." believe it or not I'm a junior in high school. | 20:58 |
djbushdio | taking Honors English 3 | 20:58 |
djbushdio | and getting an A | 20:58 |
vidd | believe it or not, i have a kid older then you! | 20:59 |
djbushdio | whoa... | 20:59 |
vidd | and one your age....and 2 younger | 20:59 |
vidd | =] | 20:59 |
djbushdio | and its actually "older than you" not "older then you" | 20:59 |
djbushdio | owned | 21:00 |
* vidd never made any claims about ability to spell or type | 21:00 | |
djbushdio | ... | 21:00 |
vidd | =] | 21:00 |
djbushdio | yet corrects me on simile vs. metaphor | 21:00 |
vidd | that was a needed correction .... typos are fine here | 21:01 |
djbushdio | yeah, thats what they all say... | 21:01 |
djbushdio | maybe i mistyped simile | 21:02 |
vidd | just like my "sit and set" sound the same...dont mean i dont know the difference =] | 21:02 |
sinbox | big typo that was :) | 21:02 |
djbushdio | you forgot an apostrophe | 21:03 |
djbushdio | actually 2 | 21:03 |
vidd | no...i didnt forget it....that key dont work =] | 21:03 |
sinbox | please join #analanguage | 21:03 |
sinbox | ;-) | 21:03 |
vidd | we are WAYYYYYYY -offtopic | 21:04 |
vidd | sinbox, im AFRAID to go there.... | 21:04 |
vidd | im not sure that has anything to do with grammer at all! =] | 21:04 |
djbushdio | yeah... anyway, will follow tips on non-graphical version (ctrl-alt-f7 to get to gui), thank you, and got to go... | 21:05 |
sinbox | ah well, vidd after your slim openbox comment you now have me reading pages like this: http://ktown.kde.org/~seli/memory/desktop_benchmark.html | 21:05 |
knome | TheSheep, i haven't actually had time to push the new version to bzr, nor do the changes... | 21:17 |
TheSheep | ah, ok | 21:21 |
Iskr | someone please tell me | 21:28 |
Iskr | what's the hotkey | 21:28 |
Iskr | to make terminal menu visible? | 21:28 |
Iskr | i have it invisible by mistake | 21:28 |
knome | Iskr, right click terminal -> "show menubar" | 21:29 |
vidd | Iskr, just right-click and re-check | 21:29 |
Iskr | rightclick doesn't work anymore | 21:29 |
vidd | Iskr, there is no default hotkey for the menu's in terminal.....that hotkey is disabled by defualt | 21:31 |
Iskr | uhm | 21:31 |
Iskr | it seems the thing is quite serious | 21:31 |
Iskr | if even right click doesn't work anymore | 21:31 |
Iskr | isn't it? | 21:31 |
Iskr | any ideas on why this can be happening? | 21:31 |
vidd | you started messing with config files? | 21:32 |
Iskr | no | 21:32 |
knome | Iskr, not really. what happens if you start a new terminal? | 21:32 |
Iskr | i was using it and it was fine | 21:32 |
Iskr | i closed it | 21:32 |
Iskr | i opened it | 21:32 |
Iskr | and it was like this | 21:32 |
vidd | ah...you have combiz running? | 21:32 |
Iskr | no | 21:32 |
Iskr | (i closed and reopened many times) | 21:33 |
Iskr | maybe next reboot? | 21:33 |
vidd | Iskr, sudo apt-get remove --purge xfce4-terminal && sudo apt-get install xfce4-terminal | 21:34 |
vidd | you may or may not want to also re-install xubuntu-desktop | 21:34 |
Iskr | no i don't want to reinstall xubuntu-desktop | 21:37 |
Iskr | and when i tried to remove the terminal with synaptic it asked me to do mark also xubuntu-desktop to remove | 21:37 |
knome | vidd, any experiences with kvm? | 21:37 |
Iskr | wouldn't it be the same with apt-get remove? | 21:37 |
vidd | knome, no... | 21:37 |
knome | Iskr, xubuntu-desktop is only a metapackage | 21:37 |
knome | Iskr, it doesn't *really* remove anything with it | 21:38 |
Iskr | ah seriously? | 21:38 |
knome | yes. | 21:38 |
vidd | Iskr, xubuntu-desktop is a "metapackage" that means it doesnt actually DO anything but depend on all the stuff that makes up xubuntu | 21:38 |
Iskr | i thought it removed all things listed in the metapackage | 21:38 |
vidd | Iskr, no...it only brings them in | 21:39 |
knome | vidd, ok, i will tell you some test results later on | 21:39 |
Iskr | ah ok | 21:39 |
Iskr | thank you | 21:39 |
Iskr | i'll maybe try it | 21:39 |
vidd | Iskr, remember to --purge..... | 21:39 |
vidd | otherwise, when you reinstall it, it will behave the exact same way! | 21:39 |
vidd | knome, i dont even know what kvm is | 21:40 |
Iskr | yes yes i know | 21:41 |
knome | vidd, kernel virtual machine | 21:41 |
Iskr | thank you all | 21:42 |
vidd | Iskr, would you rather i bug you about stuff you already know? or not warn you about annoyances that make the unknowing pull thier hair out? | 21:42 |
vidd | =] | 21:42 |
* vidd prefers to err on the side of the unknowing | 21:43 | |
vidd | =] | 21:43 |
Iskr | right | 21:43 |
Iskr | i just said that i knew | 21:43 |
Iskr | but i thank you for having warned me | 21:43 |
Iskr | =) | 21:43 |
Iskr | good night | 21:43 |
vidd | but someone just following along that is having a similar issue may NOT know...see what i mean? | 21:43 |
Iskr | yes | 21:44 |
Iskr | good that you have warned | 21:44 |
vidd | ya fixed up? | 21:44 |
Iskr | no i'll do it tomorrow | 21:44 |
Iskr | good night and thanks! | 21:44 |
vidd | night | 21:44 |
vidd | knome, sounds like something i should get myself interested in | 21:45 |
knome | maybe | 21:45 |
knome | i'm seeing if i could replace vmware with this | 21:45 |
knome | all the howtos say setting up network can be difficult, but this one got it automagically | 21:46 |
vidd | do you by chance know a non-gstreamer plugin or library for wmv files? | 21:47 |
knome | not really | 21:47 |
knome | i don't use wmv ;) | 21:47 |
vidd | i dont either....just this one prn vidd | 21:49 |
knome | lol | 21:49 |
knome | then just use gstreamer for it :P | 21:49 |
vidd | im not bringing in 10 meg of codec for 3 minutes of prn | 21:50 |
knome | 3 mins? eh.. | 21:50 |
vidd | ill just have to convert it to avi | 21:50 |
vidd | ok...151 gig of prn | 21:51 |
vidd | about 4 days worth.... | 21:51 |
vidd | =] | 21:51 |
vidd | ya happy? | 21:51 |
knome | tsh.. | 21:53 |
knome | 0KB porn | 21:53 |
knome | -offtopic? :) | 21:53 |
vidd | but that makes it seem like the agrivation of adding gsteamer would be worth it | 21:53 |
vidd | no....wmv support is sorta on topic | 21:54 |
qtmpilot | yo | 22:46 |
qtmpilot | having a slight issue, wondering if anyone can help. Basically, I can't connect to google.co.uk or news.bbc.co.uk via any means, ping results in host cannot be found error | 22:47 |
qtmpilot | its not a network issue, i get the same thing no matter what network i use | 22:48 |
Odd-rationale | but you can connect to other sites? | 22:48 |
qtmpilot | yup | 22:48 |
Odd-rationale | http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/ | 22:49 |
qtmpilot | its definately not down, can get on via my desktop | 22:49 |
Odd-rationale | hmm... | 22:49 |
qtmpilot | oh aye one other point, i can connect if i use the IP address rather than the host name | 22:49 |
qtmpilot | tried adding google.co.uk 209.85.129.147 to /etc/hosts but no joy there either | 22:50 |
Odd-rationale | is your router blocking it? | 22:50 |
qtmpilot | nope, same problem on any network, plus all my other boxes work fine | 22:50 |
Odd-rationale | strange... | 22:51 |
qtmpilot | tried clearing DNS cache too but that didnt help | 22:52 |
qtmpilot | this is a right pain | 23:01 |
anorexic | is there a way to manually triger that dialog which asks to enter password to unlock keyring? | 23:22 |
anorexic | ' | 23:26 |
anorexic | ;/ | 23:26 |
vidd | knome, are you here? | 23:54 |
knome | vidd, sure. | 23:54 |
vidd | were you "assisting" me yesterday with getting xrandr to auto set screen resolution? | 23:55 |
knome | uhh.. can't remember | 23:55 |
knome | probably not | 23:55 |
knome | can i help somehow? | 23:56 |
* vidd has too many friends =[ | 23:56 | |
knome | that's a shame ;) | 23:56 |
vidd | sure....i need to set up a .xsesson (or something similar) to auto-set screen resolution upon login | 23:57 |
vidd | because this system does not have the screen resolution tool bult into xfce (cuzz its running lxde) | 23:57 |
vidd | hey...i found a tool that *might* do the trick for me =] | 23:58 |
anorexic | use envy | 23:58 |
knome | ok? :] | 23:58 |
* vidd found lxrandr | 23:58 |
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