[00:00] <Skyfury> the "cube" goes along with intrepedid ?
[00:04] <joe3> Hi guys. Just installed 8.10 using alternate installer CD (because I needed DM RAID for existing partitions). Now when I log in I the screen goes white for a second or so then goes black. I've got a mouse cursor (which I can move) but nothing else. Any idea how to fix this?
[00:04] <blueVal> which player have to download to playstream in firefox ?
[00:06] <joe3> I can even hear the kde startup sound playing when the screen goes black.
[00:08] <blueVal> which player have to download to playstream in firefox ?
[00:15] <sangers> #join #ubuntu-virt
[00:15] <blueVal> how i download second life
[00:17] <Lord_Drachenblut> blueVal: getdeb.net has a package for second life I believe
[00:18] <blueVal> ty
[00:19] <joseph> ive updated to the new KDE (that im not too fond of) and have lost my desktop, tool bar at the bottom. can someone help me get it back? and what the hell is a "widget" lol
[00:21]  * joseph rings the bell on the counter
[00:22] <Shiver_solo> ive updated to the new KDE (that im not too fond of) and have lost my desktop, tool bar at the bottom. can someone help me get it back? and what the hell is a "widget" lol
[00:23] <tj_> !widget
[00:23] <tj_> !info widget
[00:24] <joe3> !info firefox
[00:25] <joe3> Okay got my system working. Installed updates via aptitude and now things seem happy.  Why don't I see firefox in the package repositories? or is it called Ice Weasel? I don't see either name when searching.
[00:26] <joe3> never mind. Found it in aptitude. Didn't show up in Adept for some reason.
[00:26] <blueVal> which player have to download to playstream in firefox ?
[00:28] <smitty> hello all
[00:29] <tj_> !ark
[00:32] <blueVal> hi all. i have download the drivers and still when i play a video on vlc flashes black screen all the time what i do wrong?
[00:32] <burn_> how to install autopackage?
[00:33] <william__> although i set desktop sharing to password, and not to ask, everytime i try to vnc it still asks.  how can i disable asking
[00:34] <burn_> how to install autopackage? i mean i dont have autopackage installed and i cat remember what have i typed into konsole and it start downloading autopackage
[00:36] <puggg> question:  I was here yesterday, b/c I had trouble starting Kubuntu 8.10 live CD.  When I got the blotchy screen, I hit ctrl+alt+backspace, and that got rid of the blotchy screen and started KDE 4.1.  What does ctrl+alt+backspace accomplish in Linux?
[00:36] <william__> puggg: it restarts the X server
[00:36] <puggg> ok stoopid question:  Why couldn't X start right to begin with so that it doesn't have to be restarte?
[00:37]  * TekkieFreak waves
[00:37] <TekkieFreak> DaSkreech: Yo!
[00:37] <william__> puggg: it's a weird problem.  i remember back in th day i used to have to restart my computer twice everytime because windows wouldnt see my cdrom.
[00:38] <DaSkreech> TekkieFreak: Bedded the children?
[00:38] <puggg> strange b/c it's only a prob on 8.10 Kubuntu, not Ubuntu or Xubuntu
[00:38] <TekkieFreak> Heh, nope...they are awake still
[00:38] <puggg> a kde thing I guess?
[00:38] <DaSkreech> burn_: sudo apt-get install autopackage
[00:39] <william__> puggg: yeah could be some weird bug in kde or the driver
[00:39] <puggg> I have an nvidia 57xx card
[00:39] <DaSkreech> puggg: nvidia has known problems with KDE
[00:39] <burn_> DaSkreech there is n autopackage but i find out :D
[00:39] <puggg> Da:  But, my installed KDE (openSUSE 10.0 w/KDE 4.0.x) works fine
[00:40] <puggg> er os 11.0
[00:40] <smitty> anyone using kde 4.0 on kubuntu
[00:40] <TekkieFreak> smitty: I have kde4 on ubuntu install
[00:40] <DaSkreech> puggg: With driver problems you have three kinds persistent intermittent and latent
[00:41] <TekkieFreak> DaSkreech: They are playing Animal Crossing at the moment.
[00:41] <smitty> I am switching from opensuse 11.0 with kde3 to kubutnu 8.10
[00:41] <DaSkreech> You seem to have hit an intermittent one :)
[00:41] <smitty> will I like it
[00:41] <DaSkreech> TekkieFreak: Ha ha My friend >just< asked me if I knew someone with Animal crossing
[00:41] <smitty> animal crossing is awesome
[00:42] <DaSkreech> smitty: Thats' an interesting question
[00:42] <TekkieFreak> smitty: kde4 has lots of eye candy...but it's not as configurable as 3.5
[00:42] <puggg> ok thanks much
[00:43] <smitty> sorry was not direct on the question Tekkie you answered it perfect
[00:43] <smitty> that is what I meant to ask
[00:43] <TekkieFreak> Animal crossing is pretty fun...the kids love it.
[00:43] <smitty> my wife and mom love it too
[00:44] <DaSkreech> So does she apparently she's trying to find a town to visit
[00:44] <PsiKloPx> DaSkreech: so if nvidia has known problems, should I use a different driver than the (recommended) NVidia driver?
[00:44] <william__> it seems like k/ubuntu is drifting farther away from xorg.conf but it always autodects wrong values and i correct them in xorg.conf.  is there a way to tell it during install or upgrade what my hrrefresh, vcync are
[00:44] <DaSkreech> PsiKloPx: The latest one fixes a lot of the problems
[00:44] <TekkieFreak> Oh...we don't have ours online.
[00:45] <DaSkreech> william__: Xorg is deprecating xorg.conf
[00:45] <smitty> how is kubuntu on driver support compared to opensuse
[00:45] <DaSkreech> go speak to them
[00:45] <smitty> namely wifi drivers
[00:45] <TekkieFreak> I was too cheap to buy the microphone for it and the kids are too little to be chatting online.
[00:46] <DaSkreech> Oh you can get the mic separate?
[00:46] <TekkieFreak> DaSkreech: Yep it's $29.99 here.
[00:46] <DaSkreech> Wasn't aware of that
[00:48] <TekkieFreak> DaSkreech: Where are you again?
[00:48] <DaSkreech> in the little box on your screen
[00:48] <TekkieFreak> Heh. :)
[00:48] <TekkieFreak> Must be warm in there anyway.
[00:49] <DaSkreech> It is
[00:49] <DaSkreech> 29 degrees
[00:49] <william__> how can i make desktop sharing not ask for the password.  i unchecked the box but it still asks me everytime :S
[00:49] <TekkieFreak> 29 Celsius?
[00:49] <TekkieFreak> I'm still trying to get my taskbar to the top of my screen. kde hates me.
[00:50] <Fabitoski> donde ubico ubuntu español?
[00:50] <DaSkreech> Yes
[00:50] <DaSkreech> !es
[00:50] <mister-tea> !es
[00:50] <TekkieFreak> That is nice and warm. :)
[00:50] <DaSkreech> TekkieFreak: KDE4 ?
[00:50] <TekkieFreak> Yep kde4
[00:51] <DaSkreech> TekkieFreak: Press the cashew on the panel and it will put a black box over the panel
[00:51] <DaSkreech> Grab that black box and drag it to the top
[00:52] <TekkieFreak> Oh....that worked...Thanks!!
[00:52] <DaSkreech> Welcome
[00:54] <pedro> hello people
[00:56] <DaSkreech> !hi
[00:58] <TekkieFreak> Is there anywhere to set the transparency stuff?
[00:58] <TekkieFreak> I do like all the pretty windows. :)
[00:59] <DaSkreech> alt+F3 -> properties -> desktop effects
[01:01] <TekkieFreak> Alt F3 doesn't do it...that seems to change my desktop
[01:01] <burn_> is vmware free?
[01:01] <TekkieFreak> I think vmware player is free
[01:01] <burn_> player? i thing abut setting up XP on vmware
[01:02] <TekkieFreak> I thought I had found a slider that allows you to make windows more transparent when you drag them.
[01:02] <TekkieFreak> I can't find it now though. :)
[01:03] <DaSkreech> TekkieFreak: re you sure you didn't press ctrl+F3 ?
[01:04] <TekkieFreak> Oh now I found it. :) Thanks DaSkreech
[01:05] <pedro> i need a help i have a compaq cq 60 whith kubuntu 8.10 but the wriless button does not work any body can help me?
[01:06] <TekkieFreak> That's what I'm talking about!!! Cool. :)
[01:08] <mister-tea> pedro: paste the output of lspci
[01:09] <DaSkreech> !paste
[01:10] <TekkieFreak> bbl
[01:11] <mister-tea> pedro: do you understand?
[01:12] <Jabrroa_BBL> sup
[01:13] <pedro> no can you explain i dont understand
[01:14] <mister-tea> open konsole type lspci then go to paste bin and post the output then come back here and give the url of your paste
[01:17] <mister-tea> comprende?
[01:22] <pedro> the first half i understand but i dont understand what have i got to do in the /bin
[01:23] <pedro> i m a beginner in this issues
[01:25] <mister-tea> pastebin is a website to post the large text in
[01:25] <mister-tea> !paste
[01:26] <DaSkreech> pedro: pastebin is a website
[01:27] <mister-tea> as i said
[01:27] <pedro> ok
[01:30] <Skyfury> why is the network manager not showing all my devices? just eth0 in there :\
[01:31] <Skyfury> all fine in ifconfig / iwconfig
[01:33] <burn_> !sr
[01:33] <pedro> http://paste.lisp.org/display/70943.
[01:36] <burn_> !yu
[01:36] <burn_> D:
[01:37] <kpath> I have a weird problem! A user typed 'something' in a 8.04 installation and since then he can't really use the keyboard any more. When he tries to type a char ...
[01:37] <kpath> he has to keep the key pressed for a while and then this key gets typed twice!
[01:37] <ott0> how can i just edit the first X bytes of a file, or the first X lines? without loading the rest into memory
[01:38] <kpath> any help is much appreciated. Thanks
[01:38] <DaSkreech> ott0: sed
[01:39] <DaSkreech> kpath: "since then" how long has this been going on?
[01:39] <mister-tea> pedro: look here for some info https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/278190
[01:40] <kpath> it goes like this forever!
[01:40] <ott0> okay, but is there an easier way, like tell vim to only load a certain amount or something? i'd rather have interactive editing since i need to edit a shell script, but undernead the script there's 500mb of machine code (i think) and it's crashing the editors i try to open with
[01:40] <DaSkreech> kpath: upon reboot etc?
[01:40] <kpath> yes indeed
[01:40] <kpath> reboot doesn't cahnge anything
[01:41] <kpath> in the meantime I created another user in the system and this one doesn't have that problem!
[01:41] <DaSkreech> when were they typing this thing in?
[01:41] <kpath> so must be something in the profile of that particular user!
[01:41] <kpath> in any place!
[01:41] <|TJ|> i wornder why my computer wont keep the time.
[01:41] <kpath> as long as you try to use the keyboard
[01:41] <pedro> ok im going take a look in that url tanks for yor help
[01:42]  * mister-tea feels comfort when people type as poorly as him
[01:43] <kpath> I looked in the System settings for the keyboard but everything there were set to default!
[01:44] <ott0> wait, can sed do interactive editing?
[01:44] <kpath> the user told me that before this behavior a message appeared in the screen and she cleicked on 'OK'!
[01:44] <kpath> but can't remember what the message was about!
[01:45] <william__>  how can i make desktop sharing not ask for the password.  i unchecked the box but it still asks me everytime :S
[01:47] <DaSkreech> kpath: You said they typed in something then this happened. What were they typing and when?
[01:47] <DaSkreech> ott0: no
[01:48] <DaSkreech> kpath: What were they doing?
[01:48] <kpath> DaSkreech: that's my problem! :( I don't have more info on that! The user couldn't help me any further! :(
[01:49] <kpath> DaSkreech: everything took place after the user said 'yes' to a pop-up screen!
[01:49] <kpath> DaSkreech: but couldn't give me any more details
[01:50] <kpath> DaSkreech: I was wondering which part of the system could turn the keyboard to react in this strange way?
[01:50] <|TJ|> i installed kbfx how do i remove the kmenu button
[01:51] <kpath> DaSkreech: even if I try to use the virtual keyboard, it doesn't work! I clicl on the keys and they don't get displayed!
[01:52] <kpath> DaSkreech: so must be something general with the functional part of the keyboard
[01:52] <DaSkreech> kpath: That's pretty serious
[01:52] <kpath> DaSkreech: like I choose to almost block it!
[01:52] <|TJ|> i installed kbfx how do i remove the kmenu button
[01:52] <DaSkreech> Did you try a different Keyboard?
[01:52] <|TJ|> nevermind
[01:53] <|TJ|> i got it
[01:53] <kpath> DaSkreech: no I didn't but the h/w should't be a problem! When I leave KDE and go to console mode everything works fine!
[01:54] <kpath> DaSkreech: the keyboard reacts. Also if I log-in as a different user in KDE everything works fine as well
[01:54] <kpath> DaSkreech: so this users profile is somehow different in KDE!
[01:55] <kpath> DaSkreech: how can I find that in the system?
[01:55] <mister-tea> delete the user and recreate him
[01:56] <mister-tea> ?
[01:57] <kpath> mister-tea: was your reply for my case?
[01:57] <mister-tea> it was an idea
[01:58] <kpath> mister-tea: well I try to avoid that cause I have to re-create all its settings!
[01:58] <mister-tea> k
[01:58] <kpath> mister-tea: also file permissions etc. etc.
[02:02] <mister-tea> have you checked in keyboard preferences?
[02:03] <kpath> mister-tea: you mean from the System Settings?
[02:03] <mister-tea> yeah
[02:03] <kpath> mister-tea: yes I did and everything is on default
[02:04] <mister-tea> I'm just trying to think of what could cause this
[02:04] <cuznt> maybe it was satan
[02:04] <kpath> mister-tea: that's what I try to find out too! :(
[02:05] <kpath> mister-tea: but must be a setting like this somewhere!
[02:05] <mister-tea> I was thinking that one of those accesability settings got screwed up
[02:06] <kpath> mister-tea: in which place?
[02:06] <mister-tea> in the settings there is a place to set for sticky keys and such for the hanicapped
[02:06] <burn__> c ya ppl l8r, off to reinstall kubuntu :D
[02:07] <kpath> mister-tea: you mean in the Accessibilty tab? I can see that there are some settings there for the keyboard! I'll have a look
[02:07] <emma> I did the latest update.
[02:08] <emma> And now when i start kubuntu the kdm does not really start
[02:08] <emma> i have to do sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[02:10] <DaSkreech> emma: do you have two kdms ?
[02:10] <DaSkreech> kdm and kdm-kde4 ?
[02:10] <emma> No I don't think so.
[02:11] <emma> I have just kubuntu 8.10
[02:11] <DaSkreech> do you have any error messages in dmesg
[02:11] <dhuv> hello all, I am running Intrepid on my T42 laptop. When I first bootup, I can press the volume keys and get the OSD to see the volume level and muting affects the kmix icon
[02:11] <dhuv> its great until I standby and come back
[02:11] <dhuv> does anybody know what I have to restart to get that to work again
[02:12] <kpath> mister-tea: BINGO! It was this Accessibility thing. In the 'Keyboard Filters', 'Slow Keys' was enabled!
[02:12] <Skyfury> how to tell network manager to use another device??
[02:12] <kpath> mister-tea: THANKS A LOT for your help!
[02:12] <dhuv> Skyfury: you mean connect to a different AP?
[02:13] <mister-tea> cool kpath glad to help[
[02:13] <Skyfury> dhuv: no my nm just want to handle my eth0 - i have wlan0 too but its not appering in nm
[02:15] <dhuv> Skyfury: when you do "ifconfig -a" do you see anything besides eth0 and lo?
[02:15] <Skyfury> dhuv: the card is working finem yeh
[02:15] <dhuv> Skyfury: do you have this problem when you login as a different use on the system?
[02:16] <Skyfury> dhuv: equal which user i am, the nm just shows me the eth0
[02:16] <dhuv> wondering if it is something screwed up with your .kde profile
[02:16] <DaSkreech> kpath: I think if your press the shift key 5 times that happens
[02:16] <Skyfury> dhuv: also if i check iwlist wlan0 scanning - my ap appears x_X
[02:17] <dhuv> Skyfury: are you running Intrepid?
[02:17] <Skyfury> dhuv: yes i am
[02:17] <dhuv> I have seen some bugs on launchpad regarding knetworkmanager and wireless
[02:18] <dhuv> someone people have had luck reinstalling that package
[02:18] <Skyfury> dhuv: i tried near everything - for me nm dont want to use another device instead of eth0
[02:19] <dhuv> Skyfury: perhaps you can try starting it from the command line in a terminal so you can see the startup messages
[02:19] <Skyfury> dhuv: already done, everything seems to be fine
[02:20] <dhuv> wow, that is weird
[02:20] <Skyfury> dhuv: yeah, my head is smoking :\
[02:21] <dhuv> Skyfury: I have to ask, have you done an "ifconfig wlan0 up" and restarted knetworkmanager?
[02:21] <Skyfury> dhuv: i can even add a wireless network in the nm O.o
[02:22] <dhuv> but how can you even see them if the interface is not recognized
[02:23] <Skyfury> dhuv: its my first time for this nm, i can safely remove it with apt-get?
[02:23] <dhuv> which one are you using?
[02:23] <Skyfury> dhuv: wadda you mean which one?
[02:23] <dhuv> I have network-manager-kde & network-manager packages installed
[02:24] <dhuv> which packages do you have installed
[02:24] <Skyfury> dhuv: yeah its a clean install
[02:24] <Skyfury> dhuv: just installed intrepid kubuntu on my pc yesterday
[02:25] <dhuv> it should be safe to remove them and reinstall them, the network managers only help you connect to the inet. they are not required. If you know which commands to issue manually, then you do not need those packages
[02:25] <OxDeadC0de> If you installed ubuntu first(gnome) then kde-desktop you'll have two running when you start kde and or gnome, the resolution is to add OnlyShowIn=GNOME;XFCE; to /etc/xdg/autostart/nm-applet.desktop
[02:25] <dhuv> make sure you know how to issue the commands manually, or you will not be able to connect to the inet :)
[02:26] <Skyfury> dhuv: sure i know, but i wanted to use this package :\
[02:26] <OxDeadC0de> and a similar line to knetworkmanager-autostart.desktop or whatever network manager you may have installed for kde
[02:26] <dhuv> another thing you may want to do is a --reinstall for those packages first, this way they are in apt's cache
[02:26] <Skyfury> OxDeadC0de: im sure i dont have gnome on my pc :)
[02:26] <dhuv> so when you go do an install, it does not need to be downloaded
[02:26] <OxDeadC0de> skyfury: lucky :P
[02:26] <dhuv> Skyfury: it should work, I has worked for me for since Gutsy
[02:26] <dhuv> Fiesty actually
[02:27] <Skyfury> mmh
[02:27] <OxDeadC0de> skyfury apparently also network manager has a problem with static ip's for the moment, it may have been resolved i have no idea since i use dhcp
[02:27] <Skyfury> can you gimme the complete command please?
[02:27] <dhuv> Skyfury: complete command ot remove and then install?
[02:27] <Skyfury> OxDeadC0de: yeah i have read that. thats not a problem - router with dhcp
[02:27] <Skyfury> dhuv: yes would be nice
[02:28] <OxDeadC0de> skyfury I'm a little drunk but I'll try to help you too along with dhuv, so I'll scoll back and see exactly what your problem is, sry if I get a bit annoying :P
[02:28] <Skyfury> OxDeadC0de: lol dude every help is welcome! im getting confused on this :(
[02:28]  * mister-tea cheers to OxDeadC0de
[02:29]  * DaSkreech wonders how much drunk help Skyfury has ever gotten
[02:29]  * OxDeadC0de cheers mister-tea!
[02:29] <dhuv> Skyfury: "sudo apt-get install --reinstall network-manager network-manager-kde"
[02:29] <dhuv> try that first
[02:30] <Skyfury> dhuv: thanks im doing that
[02:32]  * Skyfury rebooting
[02:37] <Skyfury> dhuv: okay now my wlan0 is not up after booting !?
[02:38] <dhuv> Skyfury: so when you do "ifconfig -a" it does not show up at all?
[02:38] <draik> I have just upgraded to Frostwire 4.17.1 and I get an issue when starting Frostwire... http://paste.ubuntu.com/76215/
[02:39] <Skyfury> dhuv: there is also wlan0
[02:39] <dhuv> Skyfury: so it is there
[02:39] <Skyfury> dhuv: but if i try iwlist wlan0 scanning - this service is temp... seems that the device isnt up yet
[02:39] <dhuv> can you see if you see wlan0 by doing "ifconfig -a"
[02:40] <Skyfury> dhuv: yes i can
[02:40] <dhuv> Skyfury: good, so it is still detected, do you see it in the network manager?
[02:41] <Skyfury> dhuv: under NM -> new connection -> only the0 in there
[02:41] <Skyfury> *eth0
[02:43] <dhuv> Skyfury: real quick, can you do a "cat /etc/network/interfaces" and see if you see wlan0 there?
[02:44] <Skyfury> i edited this file earlier - i was only with lo at the beginning - i added my wlan0 in there and commented every line out with a #
[02:45] <dhuv> no, do not have wlan0 in there http://osdir.com/ml/linux.network.networkmanager.devel/2006-06/msg00142.html
[02:45] <dhuv> remove it
[02:45] <Skyfury> dhuv: okayi remeove everthing again just a sec
[02:46] <dhuv> I gotta run, I am sorry I cannot finish up, will be back later
[02:46] <Skyfury> nothing in this file, no eth0 nor wlan0
[02:50] <CourtJesterG> what happens if i click on this .exe and run it in terminal?
[02:50] <CourtJesterG> here lets break something
[02:52] <CourtJesterG> !terminal
[02:54] <Jabrroa> !retards
[02:55] <DaSkreech> !coc
[02:55] <DaSkreech> !help | Jabrroa
[02:56] <bazhang> Jabrroa, /msg ubottu for fun if you wish
[02:59] <Jabrroa> i was just bored :)
[03:00] <bazhang> take it to #kubuntu-offtopic then
[03:00] <pierre__> hello
[03:01] <pierre__> using kde, it's nice and polished but quite slow even on a powerfull lappy, how do you speed it up ? :)
[03:05] <nonewmsgs> is there a way to bring back the main taskbar
[03:18] <leandro> Hi. I have a P4 machine with hyper threading. The generic Kernel works fine with SMP.  But it seens thar the rt kernel doesn't have smp enabled.
[03:18] <nacho__> hola
[03:18] <nacho__> alguien puede alludarme
[03:18] <leandro> I mean the package linux-image-2.6.27-3-rt of intrepid
[03:18] <nacho__> ?
[03:19] <nacho__> ola
[03:19] <nacho__> hola
[03:19] <TekkieFreak> hola
[03:19] <nacho__> puedes alludarme kon una pregunta?
[03:19] <mister-tea> !en
[03:20] <RobertLaptop> Leandro did you look for a package that include rt and smp.  Not all kernels support smp something esp. something like an rt kernel
[03:20] <leandro> Does anyone know why the rt kernel doesn't have smp enabled?
[03:20] <nacho__> tengo una pc de escritorio y una laptop conectadas en red las 2 con la misma version de ubuntu  pero quiero pasar archivos de la lap a la de pc como lo ago?
[03:20] <nacho__> se puede?
[03:21] <mister-tea> !es
[03:21] <bazhang> !es | nacho__
[03:21] <TekkieFreak> Yeah, sorry hola is about it for me.  Dora doesn't teach *that* much Spainish.
[03:21] <nacho__> tanks
[03:21] <leandro> RobertLaptop: I find just one rt kernel on the mirrors
[03:21] <yousef_> kubuntu 8.10 = fail
[03:21] <leandro> on hardy it worked whit smp
[03:22] <TekkieFreak> yousef, I have pretty good luck...but I always install Ubuntu and then add kde.
[03:23] <RobertLaptop> Leandro have you check the bug tracker for open issues with that kernal?
[03:23] <yousef_> well then kde4.2 = fail also
[03:23] <yousef_> *kde4.1
[03:23] <mahdialsholi> hi all
[03:23] <mahdialsholi> can i find any body here??
[03:23] <TekkieFreak> There's a guy working on porting kde3 over.
[03:23] <leandro> RobertLaptop: No, I haven't
[03:23] <TekkieFreak> I'm not having much trouble with 4.1 though...it's working ok for me.
[03:23] <mahdialsholi> i'm using kde 4,1
[03:24] <mahdialsholi> allllllllll
[03:24] <mahdialsholi> alooooooooooooooo
[03:24] <mahdialsholi> any one here
[03:24] <mahdialsholi> ???????
[03:24] <mister-tea> 1ask
[03:24] <bazhang> mahdialsholi, just ask
[03:24] <mister-tea> !ask
[03:26] <RobertLaptop> Leandro check the bugtracker.  Something like that might already be there.  If the only change you have made is your kernel and smp stoped working it is possible that something was broken with that release.
[03:26] <leandro> RobertLaptop> But I googled and didn't find anything, so I thought may be I was missing something
[03:27] <mahdialsholi> اي واجد عربي
[03:27] <mahdialsholi> عرب يا اخوان
[03:27] <mahdialsholi> هرب
[03:27] <mahdialsholi> عارب
[03:27] <yousef_> i upgraded my desktop to 8.10 right away it couldnt boot because of the kernel version
[03:27] <mahdialsholi> عرب
[03:27] <mahdialsholi> ابي عرب
[03:27] <mahdialsholi> عرب
[03:27] <bazhang> mahdialsholi, stop
[03:27] <yousef_> thats when u know 8.10 fails
[03:27] <mahdialsholi> كيفك يوسف
[03:27] <mahdialsholi> شو اخبارك؟؟
[03:27] <TekkieFreak> You upgraded your desktop? to kde4?
[03:27] <yousef_> lol hes speaking to me in arabic
[03:28] <yousef_> yeah
[03:28] <yousef_> my desktop pc
[03:28] <yousef_> my laptop im using now has 8.04 with kde3.5
[03:28] <TekkieFreak> Did you try the gnome desktop?  Does that work better?
[03:29] <yousef_> no i didnt try
[03:29] <RobertLaptop> leadro if smp is complied in the kernel it generally just works.  There are a few kernel options that will tweak smp but there is generally more about making smp more responsive not turning it on.
[03:30] <TekkieFreak> yousef....you should download the 8.10 Ubuntu liveCD and see how that works.
[03:30] <leandro> yeah, I've compiled some kernels whit smp and rt. I think the package maintainer forgot to compile whit smp support
[03:31] <mahdialsholi_> hi all
[03:31] <mahdialsholi_> i waana see cannel list???
[03:31] <mahdialsholi_> i waana see cannel list???
[03:31] <mahdialsholi_> i waana see cannel list???
[03:31] <mahdialsholi_> i waana see cannel list???
[03:31] <mahdialsholi_> i waana see cannel list???
[03:31] <mahdialsholi_> i waana see cannel list???
[03:31] <mahdialsholi_> i waana see cannel list???
[03:32] <mahdialsholi_> i waana see cannel list???
[03:32] <mahdialsholi_> i waana see cannel list???
[03:32] <mahdialsholi_> i waana see cannel list???
[03:32] <mahdialsholi_> i waana see cannel list???
[03:32] <mahdialsholi_> i waana see cannel list???
[03:32] <mahdialsholi_> i waana see cannel list???
[03:32] <mahdialsholi_> i waana see cannel list???
[03:32] <bazhang> mahdialsholi_, stop
[03:32] <mahdialsholi_> ok
[03:32] <mahdialsholi_> :)
[03:32] <bazhang> !irc
[03:32] <bazhang> check that last link
[03:33] <|TJ|> what can i use to play streaming audio
[03:33] <|TJ|> !streaming
[03:33] <|TJ|> !stream
[03:33] <|TJ|> !audio
[03:33] <|TJ|> !players
[03:34] <bazhang> |TJ|, what have you tried.
[03:34] <bazhang> and why are you crossposting
[03:34] <|TJ|> amaork
[03:34] <bazhang> !crosspost
[03:34] <yousef_> Tekkie, I got it to work with an older Kernel version
[03:35] <yousef_> it's just the feel of the kde4.1 that sucks
[03:35] <yousef_> and some bugs
[03:35] <yousef_> the way everything is organized is just to dumb, and those widgets and plasmoids
[03:35] <|TJ|> bazhang: i tried amaork
[03:35] <yousef_> feels like a mix of vista and mac crap
[03:36] <pierre__> i find it good, except its damn slow
[03:36] <leandro> I found on bug tracker that there is really a more seriours problem with the rt kernel.
[03:36] <leandro> Thanks for your help
[03:37] <leandro> In case you want to read, if somebody else asks, the bug number is #290498
[03:37] <TekkieFreak> I rather like it, but then I switched from a mac.
[03:38] <leandro> I will need a smp kernel. Does anybody know if I will have too much problems using the hardy rt kernel?
[03:38] <leandro> I will need a smp and rt kernel
[03:39] <mahdialsholi> #ubuntu-devel
[03:41] <mahdialsholi> hi
[03:41] <mahdialsholi> all
[03:41] <mahdialsholi> al
[03:41] <bazhang> mahdialsholi, please stop.
[03:41] <bazhang> mahdialsholi, this is a support channel.
[03:41] <bazhang> mahdialsholi, if you have a support question then ask.
[03:44] <bazhang> http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist mahdialsholi
[03:45] <mister-tea> he's not behaving
[03:45] <TekkieFreak> Clearly
[03:45] <mister-tea> ya might have to go ops on him
[03:46] <TekkieFreak> I'm not an op.
[03:46] <mister-tea> not you
[03:46] <TekkieFreak> Oh. :)
[03:47] <mister-tea>  :-)
[03:52] <helpplz> im on a live cd and have attached a hard drive with a pata to usb cable, it mounts but i cannot access some files(files like .mozzilla), i know the user/pass, how would i gain access? i want my firefox bookmarks/etc
[03:54] <RobertLaptop> If the drive isn't encrypted then just "sudo su -" to root and you will be able to access the .files
[03:55] <nalioth> RobertLaptop: please don't do that
[03:55]  * nalioth headdesks.
[03:55] <nalioth> RobertLaptop: sudo -i or sudo -s are much safer to use
[03:57] <yousef_> i hope kde3.5 will start being supported in new version of kubuntu
[03:57] <yousef_> *versions
[03:59] <TekkieFreak> yousef, they are working on adding kde3
[03:59] <mahdialsholi> i have 4.1
[03:59] <mahdialsholi> kde
[03:59] <RobertLaptop> nalioth I was giving him a quick and dirty option.  Since he is booted off a live CD and not the live system the -i / -s wont read from the right passwd file it will read from the live CD passwd file not the HD passwd file.
[03:59] <TekkieFreak> I believe you can get kde3.5 if you use 8.04
[03:59] <ott0> if [ -z "$NAUTILUS_SCRIPT_SELECTED_FILE_PATHS" ]; then         what does -z do?
[03:59] <ott0> check for variable existance?
[03:59] <yousef_> ok good
[03:59] <yousef_> yeah i have kde3.5
[03:59] <yousef_> on my laptop
[04:00] <ott0> existence*
[04:00] <TekkieFreak> Yeah...and they are working on compiling/supporting for 8.10
[04:00] <bopferman> hello, what is the best way to upgrade 8.10 to 9.04?
[04:00] <bazhang> bopferman, there is none now
[04:00] <yousef_> nice
[04:01] <mister-tea> I heard the alpha was out a couple of days ago
[04:02] <Azmodan> The "alt gr" key on my girlfriend's laptop died. Is it possible to remap it to let say the right ctrl key so she doesn't have to buy a new keyboard for her laptop?
[04:04] <yousef_> what does "alt gr" anyway?
[04:04] <yousef_> *what does it do?
[04:09] <Azmodan> On a french canadian keyboard, it let you type @
[04:09] <darksifer>  hi everyone can someone help me install kubuntu on a umpc gigabyte u60. i have been trying since yesterday and i cant. plz help me out
[04:09] <Azmodan> You need to hold it with 2.
[04:09] <bazhang> darksifer, try the alternate cd
[04:09] <pierre__> Azmodan, first link on google : http://www.columbia.edu/~djv/docs/keyremap.html
[04:09] <bazhang> !alternate
[04:13] <CourtJesterG> so i went sudo nano pointed to a file.exe came up with a bunch of stuff and i can't understand what most of it is does linux now how to read a .exe file in the kconsole
[04:14] <bazhang> CourtJesterG, what are you trying to do
[04:15] <CourtJesterG> i just wanted to view the file information of the .exe and see if i can copy it out of there so i can try and repackage it
[04:15] <CourtJesterG> i want to try and repackage a .exe into a deb
[04:15] <bazhang> CourtJesterG, repackage as what
[04:15] <CourtJesterG> as a .deb or any other format i can use to bring it to a .deb
[04:16] <bazhang> CourtJesterG, what file
[04:16] <CourtJesterG> ProjectVistor992193-123FULL.exe
[04:16] <bazhang> CourtJesterG, what does that do; what is it
[04:17] <CourtJesterG> its my game paid 7 months can't play do to the internet browser is required to start it when you hit agree using in windows it will lanch but even if using wine the browser kicks back a pv.pvl file
[04:18] <bazhang> you cant package exe as deb
[04:18] <CourtJesterG> of which usually the browser is suppose to run it through to enter the game
[04:18] <CourtJesterG> if i had the source code i could
[04:18] <CourtJesterG> or if i decompiled the dam thing
[04:18] <mister-tea> try ie6 for linux
[04:18] <bazhang> its not open source
[04:18] <bazhang> so you have no right to do that.
[04:19] <CourtJesterG> i mean most game run on linux machines so why are they not making linux packages instead mostly .exe makes no since
[04:20] <pierre__> because it's a question of how much it costs for how much it can bring back
[04:21] <CourtJesterG> anyay the game is runnign a free trial you want to give it a try projectvistor its called look it up interesting game used to be 10six
[04:22] <CourtJesterG> sort of like worldofwarcraft, first person shooter, command and counquer type game
[04:22] <CourtJesterG> stagety/ first person shooter happeneds even when your not playing
[04:23] <CourtJesterG> even third person
[04:27] <bdizzle> hi, I have a sudden serious issue
[04:27] <bdizzle> what is error 25 in GRUB?
[04:27] <bdizzle> and how do I fix it?
[04:28] <CourtJesterG> would this work to run an excutable file in linux?
[04:28] <CourtJesterG> http://www.faqts.com/knowledge_base/view.phtml/aid/29086/fid/107
[04:28] <bdizzle> CourtJesterG: just use Wine
[04:30] <CourtJesterG> i have the problem is th epv.pvl that is kicked back to save from the website to start the program usually it doesn't happen in windows and lanches
[04:31] <CourtJesterG> pv.pvl
[04:31] <CourtJesterG> i used wine if it wasn't for that file i could probally run the program
[04:32] <CourtJesterG> it needs that file for the browsers cache to lanch i would get that error if i just try and lanch the .exe from with in wine
[04:32] <bdizzle> oh, I don't know then
[04:33] <CourtJesterG> then the file usually diappears in windows off my desktop
[04:34] <CourtJesterG> i know the file is looking for the program and it is nowhere to be found cause it is in wine
[04:44] <gaizka> hello all
[04:53] <JediatNight> hi gaizka
[04:53] <gaizka> sup JediatNight
[05:09] <CourtJesterG> !msexpand
[05:09] <CourtJesterG> !mscompress
[05:09] <CourtJesterG> bs you know what i am talking about bot
[05:09] <CourtJesterG> =) off in search
[05:14] <DarkriftX> my sound seems to have stopped working
[05:15] <DarkriftX> kaffiene says unable to open xine, sound system failure
[05:15] <DarkriftX> vlc plays with no sound, and disabling/re-enabling sound system seems to fail also (just keeps going from 0-100% and starting over)
[05:19] <DarkriftX> anyone got any ideas?
[05:21] <bdizzle> hi, need some serious help
[05:27] <bdizzle> hello?
[05:54] <nacho> ubuntu en espa;ol
[05:54] <nacho> ?
[05:54] <nacho> holaa buenas noches
[05:54] <stdin> !es
[06:05] <|TJ|> !restrictedformats
[06:28] <MeztigoR> Всем привет!
[06:29] <Tm_T> !ru | MeztigoR
[06:29] <Tm_T> MeztigoR: kannaksella tavataan
[06:29] <MeztigoR> ладно, пасиба :) я на русском пообщаюсь :)
[06:33] <Greenery> is there a way to free up plasma memory usage?
[06:41] <hellhound> how can i resize my / partition?  I have a very large /home partition and I would like to give some extra space to the / partition without losing data
[06:50] <navetz> is there a good p2p client in the repos? I am looking to download soem songs.
[07:07] <mrp193> anyone know if it is possible to get a USB keyboard to recognize while in the grub loader screen
[07:07] <mrp193> or is that hardware related?
[07:54] <SlimG> Where has the kmilo-kde4 package gone in intrepid? Having trouble with Lenovo N200 volume-key
[08:18] <zeno> anyone have konsole working in ubuntu 8.10? kde4 version. for me when the status of the text in konsole changes it doenst appear on screen, have to do another command for it to.
[08:18] <SlimG> Seems like Kmilo has been removed without any replacement-code
[08:18] <SlimG> What's the name of the #kubuntu developer-channel?
[08:25] <jose> Buenos dias
[08:43] <CourtJesterG> !font
[08:43] <CourtJesterG> !1font bug
[08:44] <CourtJesterG> !font bug
[08:45] <CourtJesterG> anybody know th elink to fix the wine font bug i seem to be having trouble finding it
[08:45] <CourtJesterG> !wine
[08:46] <bjorn-tore> #norge
[08:47] <bjorn-tore> #norway
[09:06] <micha_> how do i check what wifi card i have
[09:10] <elgokulo> sudo lshw
[09:10] <micha_> thaks
[09:10] <micha_> thanks
[09:22] <micha_> is there a keyboard shortcut for konsole
[09:36] <gab3> stupid question
[09:37] <gab3> i need to write a simple shell script that performs the same operation on multiple files
[09:37] <gab3> java -jar jmac.jar d Track01.ape Track01.wav
[09:37] <gab3> all the way through 31
[09:37] <gab3> can anyone help? should be simple
[09:37] <gab3> i'm not a programmer
[09:58] <elmargol> Somehow kubuntu does not respect my language settings :( I have 3 languages installer en, de and it. And have them in this order. However kubuntu translates everything missing in german to italian :( and i prefer english
[10:29] <Dragonath> hmm, I am trying to install new themes from kde-look.org but the configuring scripts tell me that they can't find my X libraries
[10:36] <Dragonath> actually nevermind, I found out that the theme I want comes with kubuntu already
[10:41] <fjellrev1> I'm having sometrouble with my wifi card, athero chipset on a Amilo li1718 labtop, I have finally managed to get the card recognized,but it still wont work,seems not turned on ( my pc has a on/off button for the wifi card) I found a script that could work but its for 32bit,not 64 like my computer..Anyone has any idea of what I could try now?  ?
[10:42] <SlimG> fjellrev1: Set the wifi to default-on in BIOS if possible
[10:42] <regital> hey, i just installed QtParted, but when i try to launch it, it gives me an error that says 'Command not found'
[10:42] <regital> im running Kubuntu 8.10 with KDE4
[10:43] <SlimG> regital: kdesudo qtparted
[10:43] <fjellrev1> SlimG : okay,I will try but think i've read someone else with same problem trying to do that without prevailing, but ill try.brb
[10:43] <regital> SlimG: say what?
[10:44] <regital> ah it worked. thanks
[10:44] <SlimG> regital: np
[10:49] <CourtJesterG> anyone on?
[10:50] <CourtJesterG> i always see a bunch of ppl in the room but barely anyone speaking funny
[10:50] <SlimG> CourtJesterG: #kubuntu-offtopic
[10:50] <martijn> hi
[10:51] <SlimG> CourtJesterG: But yea, it's awfully quiet in here :) here ... here ... her .. he . (echo)
[10:52] <martijn> :)
[10:52] <CourtJesterG> i need a fix to my font bug problem the wine application to config it doesn't display any fonts i already fix my 96 driver font bug problem with the tweek just need to fix the wine problem now
[10:52] <CourtJesterG> no fonts to read when i open the win config
[10:53] <martijn> flash videos stopped working in konqueror for me
[10:53] <martijn> flash apps seem to work
[10:53] <CourtJesterG> i can't find the fix for it or where wine.cfg is located i know how to do it
[10:53] <CourtJesterG> i believe
[10:53] <CourtJesterG> been searching forums and sites for hours
[10:54] <SlimG> martijn: Get used to it uintil Konqueror changes rendering-engine, or khtml suddently decides to cooperate
[10:54] <SlimG> CourtJesterG: What about just deleting the ~/.win folder, and let it regenerate itself?
[10:55] <SlimG> ~/.wine *
[10:55] <CourtJesterG> i can try in terminal
[10:55] <CourtJesterG> or kcosole
[10:55] <martijn> SlimG ... bleh are you serious?
[10:55] <CourtJesterG> using kubuntu noticed most documents and the file system is different in ubuntu and how there site tells you to do some stuff related to wine
[10:56] <CourtJesterG> that doesn't work
[10:56] <CourtJesterG> unless i go maybe rm
[10:56] <SlimG> martijn: That's my experience, using Kubuntu without having Firefox installed for everything Konqueror won't do is a real pain
[10:57] <martijn> pitty, it used to work pretty well in kde3
[10:57] <SlimG> CourtJesterG: rm -R ~/.wine && wineprefixcreate ~/.wine
[10:58] <SlimG> CourtJesterG: forgot --prefix: wineprefixcreate --prefix ~/.wine
[10:59] <fjellrev1> Daisuke_Ido:
[10:59] <CourtJesterG> prefix isn't a command
[10:59] <fjellrev1> sorry..
[10:59] <CourtJesterG> first one did something
[11:00] <CourtJesterG> never mind doing something
[11:00] <CourtJesterG> updated
[11:01] <CourtJesterG> no did,t happen
[11:01] <CourtJesterG> i found the fix for once before
[11:02] <CourtJesterG> when i open up wine to config i have no fonts if i go tot wine hq nobody never answers you there
[11:03] <CourtJesterG> thats because i am using the 96 nvidia driver i fixed the fonts on my system already with the anti-alais dpi
[11:08] <juanantonio> Hello, my Kubuntu 8.04 is not letting me mount Windows and USB disk
[11:09] <juanantonio> An error appears me saying that this operation is not permitted
[11:10] <bazhang> !ntfs-3g
[11:12] <juanantonio> The thing is that Kubuntu let me mounted it automatically until 2 days ago; I returned today and it does not le tme
[11:19] <SlimG> juanantonio: If you've used the NTFS-partition in Windows, and did a unclean shutdown. you'll be having problems mounting it again in linux
[11:21] <SlimG> Usually it'll mount again after you let Windows boot and check the NTFS (Will be done automatically before entering the Windows desktop)
[11:24] <andrew__> I've got a big problem with 8.10 ever since upgrading. KDE4 seems to crash xorg every time. I've got a stack trace, but it doesn't have many symbols. Can anyone help?
[11:24] <andrew__> 8.04 with KDE4 backports was fine for me btw. It must be related to the new version of xorg in 8.10
[11:25] <Tm_T> andrew__: what display driver?
[11:27] <andrew__> nvidia's binary 177 - although I also tried the older one that comes with 8.10 and it was the same. On top of that, I had this same problem on another machine which uses ATI/fglrx. However, the ATI machine seems to have fixed itself, possibly with the 4.1.3 backport, whereas my nvidia machine (the one I really rely on) still suffers
[11:27] <Tm_T> andrew__: have you tried new beta drivers from nvidia?
[11:29] <andrew__> Tm_T: nope not tried those. Think it would make a difference?
[11:29] <Tm_T> andrew__: may, may not
[11:30] <CourtJesterG> ok this is my problem but the commands aren't working
[11:30] <CourtJesterG> http://forum.winehq.org/viewtopic.php?t=392&highlight=fonts
[11:32] <CourtJesterG> !sudo
[11:35] <fjellrev1> I am trying to install new madwifi drivers in hope that it will help my situation but when I do make && make install I get an error saying that there is no rulle to make target "bla bla" anyone know what I am missing?
[11:35] <juanantonio> Hello. Is there someone to help me with mount error that I never had
[11:36] <bazhang> juanantonio, did you do an unclean windows shutdown?
[11:36] <juanantonio> Unclean?
[11:37] <bazhang> juanantonio: If you've used the NTFS-partition in Windows, and did a unclean shutdown. you'll be having problems mounting it again in linux
[11:38] <juanantonio> Unclean shutdown, I don't undersatand the concept. I used it because Linux could't find some files that were there; then I turned off from the Start Windows menu
[11:40] <SlimG> juanantonio: Boot windows again, and see if it automatically checks the filesystem at startup (before you enter the desktop), if it does, that should fix your mounting-issues in linux (it would also indicate that you've done a unclean shutdown in windows)
[11:41] <juanantonio> Ok, I'm going to see. If Windows is not checking that, what will happen?
[11:41] <andrew__> when I log in as me (with all my settings), it crashes xorg on the KDE splash screen. When I log in with a user with no settings, I can get into KDE, but it will crash shortly after. In fact, I can usuall make it crash by going to the desktop, right clicking, choosing desktop settings and clicking on the drop down menu which lets you set a wallpaper to be tiled/scaled/stretched etc
[11:41] <CourtJesterG> http://forum.winehq.org/viewtopic.php?t=392&highlight=fonts
[11:42] <CourtJesterG> this isn't the fix i put on mine last time and i have my monitor set at 96 dpi
[11:43] <letham> hello
[11:44] <CourtJesterG> it doesn't fix it nyway
[11:44] <CourtJesterG> http://forum.winehq.org/viewtopic.php?t=392&highlight=fonts
[11:48] <CourtJesterG> !wine
[11:59] <metellius> has someone heard of firefox running really weirdly in kubuntu? the gui doesn't seem to respond to any loading at all, the sites do load, but they never finish, so I cannot stop, reload or go back or anything, just click links
[12:20] <juanantonio> Hello. I got a problem mounting an external USB disk
[12:20] <juanantonio> the internal had no problem, but the external had it
[12:21] <SlimG> juanantonio: NTFS?
[12:21] <juanantonio> No, FAT32
[12:21] <SlimG> juanantonio: So the NTFS is okay now?
[12:21] <SlimG> juanantonio: What problem?
[12:22] <juanantonio> Yes, thank you. Thing is FAT32 says Habilited (habilitado en spanish) but Kubutnu, does not let me mount it
[12:24] <voox> where does opera store the profile folder in kubuntu?
[12:25] <SlimG> voox: My guess: ~/.opera
[12:25] <SlimeyPete> ~/.opera I think
[12:25] <voox> ahh yes, thanks both :)
[12:28] <SlimG> np
[12:29] <juanantonio> I already know how this is starting
[12:29] <juanantonio> I return immediately
[12:32] <fjellrev1> is there any negative effects of running a 32 bit system instead of 64 ( i say this cause Im contemplating going to 32,because of scripts for my wifi driver only wanting to run under 32)
[12:33] <dr_willis> I have to wonder what a 'script' is doing thats 32/64bit different.
[12:36] <fjellrev1> beats me :) I can't say I have too much knowledge on this,just that only real solution I have found is this script,and when running it I get an error,saying sorry,only works on 32 bit system for now
[12:36] <fjellrev1> now my roommate suggest just switching to 32 system instead, he says there isnt much reason for running it,paranoid as I am I cant take his wod for it :)
[12:37] <dr_willis> I normally use 32bit.. buit am testing out 64bit now.. its working well for me.
[12:39] <dr_willis> I can only think of 1 or 2 litle issues ive had with 64bit
[12:39] <fjellrev1> yeah,it works for me too,only thing is the wifi ( kind of ruins the whole laptop feeling when having to drag along a TP) so if there isnt much to it than I think I will go for 32..dr_willis the decision will fall on what you have to say :)
[12:39] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[12:40] <dr_willis> 'this is linux, use what you want' :P
[12:41] <fjellrev1> choices,too many choices,not enough knowledge :)
[12:41] <ActionParsnip> then gain knowledge first
[12:42] <fjellrev1> ActionParsnip: kind of the reason I am reaching out in this channel,not here to make chatting friends ;)
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> fjellrev1: what do you wanna know?
[12:43] <fjellrev1> If there is any downside to using a 32 bit system instead of the 64 bit that I am running now,as I am running into major issues surrounding my wifi card
[12:43] <dr_willis> I wouldent think of any issues.. other then accessing large amounts of ram
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> fjellrev1: none really, servers benefit from 64bit as long as the hardware is 64bit nice
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> fjellrev1: desktops on 32bit get better support from plugins
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> fjellrev1: as dr_willis says, if you have > 3Gb ram then use 64bit
[12:45] <dwidmann> fjellrev1: umm, lack of support for >~3GB memory ... number crunching, rendering, encoding applications won't get the nice boost ... that's about it
[12:45] <fjellrev1> ActionParsnip: So, for mye usage that is purely recreational and writing assignments in school, I should use 32..have only about 2g ram anyways
[12:45] <dr_willis> ive not really noticed much of a boost.. but ive not done head2tohead comapressons
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> fjellrev1: yes, i'd advise 32
[12:46] <dwidmann> dr_willis: others have though ... and the numbers spoke for themselves.
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: it wouldnt be a fair test as many of the other components would be different
[12:47] <dr_willis> dwidmann,  last  benchmarks i saw dident show much.. but that was a year+ ago.. and i imagine  the compilers/codeers are better at using the fetures of 64bit by now..
[12:47] <dwidmann> ActionParsnip: no, do it on the same system, seeing as the system can run both
[12:47] <dr_willis> 1+ Yr old benchmarks. :) are not good benchmarks
[12:47] <ActionParsnip> dwidmann: makes sense
[12:48] <ActionParsnip> dwidmann: i brain farted and thouht the test would be on a 32bit cpu too
[12:48] <dwidmann> dr_willis: I rememer lame in particular not really seeing any improvement
[12:49] <ActionParsnip> dwidmann: I'd expect it to
[12:49] <dwidmann> ActionParsnip: so would anybody else
[12:50] <ActionParsnip> dwidmann: oh well
[12:50] <ActionParsnip> stranger things have happened at sea
[12:51] <dwidmann> on the other hand, I remember blender being like >30% faster
[12:52] <dr_willis> blender... :)  i never did  get a good grasp of using that program
[12:55] <voox> anyone know how to get the forward/backward buttons on a mouse to work with opera ? (works fine in firefox)
[12:56] <dwidmann> voox: go to tools->preferences->advanced->shortcuts, go to the mouse setup
[12:58] <dwidmann> voox: in the tree, expand application, it probably has something like "button 6" for back and "button 7" for forward ... might not be correct for your mouse ... you can see what the actual buttons are by using the program xev (start it in konsole)
[13:00] <voox> dwidmann, thanks let me give it a shot
[13:01] <dwidmann> voox: better yet, to simplify the output greatly, run xev this way --- "xev | grep button"
[13:02] <voox> dwidmann, button 8 and 9
[13:02] <dwidmann> voox: change that in opera and you should be good to go then.
[13:03] <voox> dwidmann, should I put a space between "button 8"
[13:03] <dwidmann> voox: yeah
[13:03] <voox> dwidmann, alright thanks a lot :)
[13:21] <Hypnos> is this a known bug that closing opengl-apps, doesnt work right now? (using nvidia drivers)
[13:22] <Hypnos> is there nobody writing or am i not voiced or anything?
[13:26] <_Hypnos> i'll try again, maybe i could not be read before:   is this a known bug that closing opengl-apps, doesnt work right now? (using nvidia drivers)
[13:28] <Pici> _Hypnos: Try looking on launchpad for that.
[13:28] <Pici> !bugs
[13:33] <fliegenderfrosch> are there any kde 4.1.3 and amarok 2.0 RC packages available for hardy?
[13:33] <BluesKaj> 'Morning
[13:33] <dwidmann> fliegenderfrosch: yes to the former, not sure about the latter
[13:35] <fliegenderfrosch> dwidmann: where can I find them? on kubuntu.org I can only find them for intrepid
[13:35] <dwidmann> fliegenderfrosch: looks like amarok rc is in the repositories too, I need to update then
[13:36] <dwidmann> Oh, wait, for Hardy, guess I forgot to read to the end of the line .... doh
[13:39] <fliegenderfrosch> dwidmann: it doesn’t seem like there are any new packages for hardy available
[13:39] <fliegenderfrosch> well, I probably have to upgrade to intrepid then
[13:40] <fliegenderfrosch> though I’d prefer to stay with hardy
[13:41] <dwidmann> fliegenderfrosch: good luck
[13:47] <noaXess> hi all
[13:48] <noaXess> since i have 8.10..i have some problems.. some are easy.. can work with it.. but one.. is strange.. i don't know why.. if i'm working.. puff.. caps-lock led is blinking and 8.10 freezes.. i neeed to hard power off my notebook..
[13:48] <noaXess> any idea? kernel probleM'
[13:48] <noaXess> the temp's of cpu and gpu are ok.. should be no temperatur problem
[13:48] <linux_user400354> how can i get kcontrol for kde3 apps like amarok?
[13:53] <noaXess> any idea about the blinking caps-lock problem, any solutio?
[13:55] <dwidmann> linux_user400354: not as "user friendly", but you should still be able to use kcmshell to handle things
[13:57] <noaXess> hey dwidmann..
[13:57] <noaXess> wasup? :)
[13:57] <dwidmann> Hi noaXess
[13:57] <noaXess> do you know anything about blinking caps-lock led?
[13:58] <dwidmann> noaXess: I think I've seen or heard of it somewhere before ... but if I knew the fix I don't remember it
[13:58] <dwidmann> noaXess: does it happen often?
[13:58] <noaXess> twice since today moring..
[13:58] <linux_user400354> dwidmann, i did a search for kchmshell and it gave me nothing. what package is that included in?
[13:59] <dwidmann> linux_user400354: you should have it, and it should be "/usr/bin/kcmshell"
[13:59] <dwidmann> linux_user400354: and I'm assuming your typo didn't help
[14:01] <BluesKaj> noaXess, blinking capslock eh , sounds like a problem in xorg.conf ... I edited mine to rid myself of the caps lock by adding this section to my xorg.conf file  http://www.pastebin.ca/1265796 ...Warning! it may not work for you but you can try modifying it in the terminal with nano.
[14:02] <noaXess> BluesKaj: should that also stop freezing?
[14:02] <noaXess> if my cpas-locl is blinking.. the whole system is freezed..
[14:02] <noaXess> need hard poweroff my machine
[14:02] <BluesKaj> yes, it only works when you press it , it won't stay on afterwards
[14:03] <SlimG> noaXess: blinking caps (I think) is a indication of a linux kernel panic
[14:04] <noaXess> SlimG: ok.. thats what i found in bug reports..https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/289808
[14:04] <dwidmann> noaXess: so when did this blinking problem start? recently? has it always been a problem?
[14:04] <noaXess> dwidmann: before upgrading from 8.04 to 8.10. i havn't this problem.. no with the newest intrepid kernel i get this problemm.. sometimes never per day, sometimes mor the once..
[14:05] <dwidmann> noaXess: what kind of things are you doing when it freezes? Every anything similar or is it completely random?
[14:05] <noaXess> SlimG: will kernel panic be logged? in /var/log/kern.log i don't see any
[14:06] <mschiff> Hi just saw the NEWS that amarok2rc will replace amarok 1.4? Why do you do that?
[14:06] <SlimG> noaXess: check /var/log/kern.log.1
[14:06] <noaXess> dwidmann: hm... sometimes i have a lot of apps open, firefox, thunderbird, pidgin, konsole, openoffice writer, dolphin
[14:07] <dwidmann> noaXess: are your logs being slammed with thousands of lines of errors like the person in the aforementioned bug report?
[14:07] <noaXess> SlimG: have no .1 log
[14:07] <noaXess> just .0 that is the log before the acual kern.log
[14:07] <noaXess> all other are gz files
[14:07] <SlimG> noaXess: Try .0
[14:08] <noaXess> dwidmann: no.. my /var/log needs only 15mb space..
[14:08] <dwidmann> noaXess: do "ls -l /var/log | sort -n -k 5" ... oh, maybe it isn't that then
[14:09] <noaXess> SlimG: how is a kernel panic logged? what kind of name? Kernle Panic or kernel panic...
[14:09] <linux_user400354> dwidmann, how can i get a list of the available icons i can use with kcmshell --icon?
[14:10] <noaXess> sudo du -hs /var/log/ -> 15M     /var/log/
[14:10] <dwidmann> linux_user400354: hmm, not sure
[14:12] <noaXess> last syslog entry before freeze: Nov 24 14:40:01 hercules /USR/SBIN/CRON[18239]: (root) CMD ([ -x /usr/sbin/update-motd ] && /usr/sbin/update-motd 2>/dev/null)
[14:12] <dwidmann> noaXess: what video drivers do you use?
[14:12] <noaXess> first syslog entry after hard poweroff: Nov 24 14:44:37 hercules syslogd 1.5.0#2ubuntu6: restart.
[14:12] <noaXess> dwidmann: nvidia
[14:13] <dwidmann> noaXess: if at all possible, try running with the open source "nv" driver or "vesa" for a few days and see if you still get the freeze (yes, I know what it means to have crap video ... but this could potentially hit the problem on the head if it's that, eh?)
[14:14] <noaXess> dwidmann: ok.. that will be my next test.. just change fomr nvidia to nv in xorg.conf, right?
[14:14] <dwidmann> noaXess: yeah, that should do the trick
[14:14] <noaXess> dwidmann: need i install the opensource nv driver
[14:14] <dwidmann> noaXess: if not, I'm sure you'll know
[14:14] <dwidmann> noaXess: no, it's already installed.
[14:14] <noaXess> dwidmann: how can i chek taht it is installed?
[14:15] <dwidmann> noaXess: well, unless you explicitly removed it, it's installed
[14:15] <dwidmann> noaXess: dpkg --list xserver-xorg-video-nv
[14:15] <SlimG> noaXess: You could experience hardware-failure, disk and ram is the most frequently failing hardware, badblocks and memtest are the utilities to test those
[14:16] <noaXess> SlimG: i know.. thanks.. but that can't be, cause before upgrading all works perfect..
[14:16]  * noaXess thinks... it is a NVIDIA bug
[14:16] <dwidmann> noaXess: not necessarily can't, but probably isn't
[14:16] <noaXess> dwidmann: all other nvidia specifix settings, can i use them with nv driver?
[14:17] <noaXess> i will post my xorg.conf
[14:17] <dwidmann> noaXess: well, do you know how to use any clie text editors? If there's anything that xorg doesn't like it will tell you which line(s) it doesn't like and you'll know then
[14:17] <dwidmann> noaXess: then all you would have to do would be comment out those lines
[14:18] <noaXess> dwidmann: i use allway vi to edit my configs..
[14:18] <noaXess> my xorg.conf http://paste.ubuntu.com/76406/
[14:19] <dwidmann> noaXess: me too
[14:19] <noaXess> now i have only changed nvidia to nv
[14:19] <noaXess> .. first drink a coffee and then restart X :)
[14:20] <dwidmann> noaXess: I'm not too sure about the last two lines in device, I think those might be nvidia specific
[14:20] <noaXess> dwidmann: i will test.. after my coffee :) expresso ;)
[14:20] <dwidmann> noaXess: same with lines 92-97 of the paste (in the screen section)
[14:21] <dwidmann> noaXess: pretty sure those are nvidia specific
[14:21] <dwidmann> noaXess: and I don't think nv supports twinview either
[14:21] <noaXess> jep thats correct.. will uncomment them.
[14:21] <noaXess> dwidmann: how can i make a clean xorg.conf? after backuped mine :)
[14:22] <dwidmann> noaXess: erm, umm, I'm not really sure anymore
[14:22] <dwidmann> noaXess: used to be something, but that something doesn't do it anymore so it's not worth my typing it out if ya know what I mean
[14:22] <noaXess> dwidmann: its someting with reconfigure... or
[14:22] <_spm_Draget> How can I remove networkmanager from by runlevel?
[14:22] <linux_user400354> why did the ubuntu developers get rid of kcontrol in ubuntu 8.10?
[14:24] <dwidmann> linux_user400354: I think it was in kdebase, which is among the many things dropped ... they pretty much dropped all but kdelibs and a few misc packages (krename, konversation, digikam, amarok, and koffice, to name a few)
[14:25] <_spm_Draget> What is the name of the package with networkmanager?
[14:25] <BluesKaj> dwidmann, one would think that there shoulf be an "Input Device Section" for keyboards and exotic mouses/mice in Intrepids xorg.conf file , but they seem to just be using a HAL dependency
[14:26] <linux_user400354> _spm_Draget, apt-file find networkmanager
[14:26] <_spm_Draget> nop, it was network-manager
[14:26] <linux_user400354> _spm_Draget, try this. dpkg -S `which NetworkManager`
[14:26] <dwidmann> BluesKaj: yeah ... I had to add for my mouse as well ... and it's not even *that* exotic
[14:28] <dwidmann> linux_user400354: I personally would have opted for apt-cache search network | grep -i manager
[14:30] <linux_user400354> is there a way i can compile kcontrol to get it in ubuntu 8.10?
[14:30] <dwidmann> linux_user400354: well, yeah.
[14:31] <dwidmann> linux_user400354: you can pretty much compile whatever you want, if you really want to.
[14:32] <dwidmann> linux_user400354: I have a full kde3 compiled and installed to ~/linux/soft, as of about a week ago
[14:33] <BluesKaj> dwidmann, I had to edit to add a "Module Section" to enable 3D and DRI and edit the Extensions Section to Composite = "0" as well as adding fglrx as a driver for the "Configured Video Device'. The Intrepid developers decided to let users set things up for their own hardware when they wrote the xorg.conf .However that leaves those who are new to Linux out in the cold somewhat. That's my rant for Today  :>)
[14:34] <dwidmann> BluesKaj: I agree ... xorg.conf setup definitely needs some work/love
[14:38] <neverendingo> Hey, i have a problem with kopete after an update from 8.04 to 8.10. I used kde4 before, but after the update i can't access my accounts anymore, they are gone. And configuring kopete isn't possible, too. The menu only has "configure -> configure shortcuts". Removing the original configs doesn't work either. Any hints?
[14:39] <dwidmann> neverendingo: kubuntu 8.10's config dir is ~/.kde, 8.04's was ~/.kde4. Thats' why they can't be accessed .... copy what you need over
[14:39] <neverendingo> dwidmann: i already did that, doesn't work
[14:39] <dwidmann> hrm, that's odd ... it didn't give me any trouble on either of my setups
[14:40] <webas> hi..how to install latest open office ?
[14:40] <neverendingo> dwidmann: actually that's is the only problem i have after the upgrade.
[14:41] <neverendingo> the only thing i can configure is the picture of the default identity...
[14:42] <dwidmann> neverendingo: backup and then delete ~/.kde/share/apps/kopete/ and ~/.kde/share/config/kopeterc
[14:42] <neverendingo> dwidmann: did that, no change
[14:43] <dwidmann> neverendingo: tried reinstalling kopete?
[14:45] <samushka> is there any PPA's with kde 4.2 packages besides project neon? (i want to REPLACE kde 4.1 iwith 4.2)
[14:45] <dwidmann> samushka: no, seeing as last I checked there wasn't even a beta of kde4.2
[14:46] <samushka> sarcasm aside, i meant the beta packages
[14:46] <samushka> or svn builds
[14:46] <dwidmann> svn builds != beta packages
[14:47] <samushka> right, i meant svn my bad... arch linux has a repository just wanted to know if there's any unofficial ones for kubuntu
[14:48] <dwidmann> Nothing I've heard about ... though there should be a beta of 4.2 soon. I would expect to see packages then.
[14:48] <samushka> ok
[14:48] <dwidmann> (official packges, no less)
[14:49] <samushka> is there an official eta by kde devs for beta 4.2 release?
[14:49] <dwidmann> (well, official-ish)
[14:49] <samushka> right, heh
[14:49] <neverendingo> dwidmann: somehow that did it, thanks for that!
[14:49] <dwidmann> samushka: well, they do have a plan laid out, whether or not they want to follow it is up to them though ... I hope they don't rush it.
[14:50] <neverendingo> obviously the 4.1.2 version of kopete was still installed
[14:50] <samushka> i remember seeing a frontend for mplayer on kde, i cant recall the name, anyone know off the top of their heads?
[14:51] <Tm_T> samushka: kmplayer ?
[14:51] <SkEmO> how can i ge the CGJ browser plugin?
[14:51] <SkEmO> get*
[14:51] <SkEmO> firefox is unable to install it on its own
[14:51] <lool> Hi folks
[14:52] <drow_> sorry for interrupting... what about kde4.2 ? is there a rough timetable for release it or when it will be at back ports ?
[14:52] <lool> I'm poking at kdesdk, it failed to build in jaunty on misc arches, but has a newer version in intrepid-proposed and intrepid-backports
[14:52] <lool> First, I do wonder how that can be :)  and second, diffing these two yields plenty of weird stuff
[14:52] <neverendingo> hmm, i was too fast, configuration is accessible again, but empty...
[14:52] <lool> Like depends downgraded or dropped, changelog entry dropped etc.
[14:53] <dwidmann> samushka: kplayer? smplayer?
[14:53] <samushka> thx, gonna google those up.
[14:53] <SkEmO> the CGJ plugin i mean
[15:08] <drow_> *ROFL*
[15:09] <Dragonath> how do I remove kde4 from my computer? I've already removed the kde4 package and then done an autoremove
[15:10] <genii> Dragnslcr: On 8.04 or 8.10 ?
[15:10] <Dragonath> 8.04
[15:11] <Dragonath> the login manager still seems to be kde4 to
[15:11] <genii> Dragonath: Should just be something like: sudo apt-get remove --purge kubuntu-kde4-desktop                   You will still need manual removal of anything in your home dir however
[15:11] <Dragonath> too*
[15:11] <Dragonath> ok thanks
[15:12] <Dragonath> genii: hmm I still have things labeled KDE4 in the k menu
[15:13] <genii> Dragonath: Yes, "You will still need manual removal of anything in your home directory" As I just said
[15:13] <Dragonath> genii: the menu entries seem to work - I just opened dragon player... this isn't normal is it?
[15:15] <Dragonath> usually when I remove an application it gets removed from the k menu as well
[15:15] <genii> Dragonath: The --purge part removes conf files and binaries. But if you already did a remove without --purge then the binaries are still there
[15:16] <Dragonath> ah ok
[15:17] <mark_g> what is the best web browser for kubuntu? i'm new to kubuntu.
[15:17] <mircea> firefox
[15:17] <mircea> especially if you need flash
[15:18] <Dragonath> genii: so now I should first reinstall kde4 and then do a purge?
[15:18] <mark_g> firefox tabs and icons are not as good as in ubuntu
[15:18] <mircea> mark_g: use a different theme, i use qtcurve
[15:18] <genii> Dragonath: That might be adviseable.
[15:18] <Dragonath> ok thanks
[15:18] <mark_g> mircea: ok, i'll try
[15:20] <noaXess> how can i reconfigure my x server so i have default values in xorg.conf?
[15:21] <noaXess> !xorg
[15:23] <mark_g> mircea: thanks, it works. i'm using ifox theme.
[15:23] <mircea> mark_g: yw
[15:24] <mark_g> i just shift from ubuntu to kubuntu. i'm wondering if it's possible to create a freenode account in kopete?
[15:25] <ivan_> it's better to use qutIM
[15:26] <noaXess> mark_g: not in kopete for kde4.. use pidgin :) it is really cool and do all what you need.. mutch plugins.. and so on
[15:26] <noaXess> !info pidgin | mark_g
[15:27] <mark_g> is pidgin available in adept repository?
[15:27] <noaXess> mark_g: jep
[15:27] <noaXess> se ubottu output
[15:27] <mark_g> noaXess: ok, i'll try.
[15:31] <KingOfDos> why is knetworkmanager not working properly?
[15:32] <juanantonio> I got a problem with my video card driver
[15:39] <mfakhruddin> good nite all
[15:40] <mfakhruddin> assalamualaikum all
[15:40] <mark_g> how can i uninstall konqueror?
[15:41] <mark_g> i was trying to remove it from adept but can't find it
[15:42] <wad> Hey, both of my kubuntu boxen are getting the same error when I do apt-get update: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/h/hplip/hplip_2.7.7.dfsg.1-0ubuntu5.1_i386.deb  Size mismatch
[15:42] <wad> Is it me? Or is everyone experiencing this problem?
[15:43] <mark_g> wad: try to use the main server for source. it works for me before in ubuntu.
[15:43] <wad> okay.
[15:44] <Nasj> !virus
[15:44] <Nasj> !virusscanner
[15:44] <Nasj> !firewall
[15:44] <noaXess> i edit my shortcuts over systemsettings / keyboard / .. in the entry "KDE Menu Editor" i have a lot of entries like "Activate KSIRC Window" or "Go to KDE Website"..
[15:44] <Nasj> !guarddog
[15:44] <noaXess> how can i delete them?
[15:45] <mark_g> how can i add medibuntu in the repository?
[15:45] <noaXess> !medibuntu | mark_g
[15:46] <noaXess> mark_g: by the way ;) ubottu is a AI bot :)
[15:46] <noaXess> no AI.. just a help bot ;)
[15:47] <KingOfDos> how can i connect to wireless network?
[15:48] <mark_g> noaXess: thank's for the info.
[15:49] <noaXess> KingOfDos: with knetworkmanager add a new connection.. or try wicd..
[15:49] <mark_g> does adding medibuntu to sources.list in ubuntu similar with kubuntu?
[15:49] <KingOfDos> noaXess: knetworkmanager is failing big-time
[15:50] <noaXess> KingOfDos: http://wicd.sourceforge.net/
[15:50] <KingOfDos> i'll try wicd
[15:50] <noaXess> then wicd.. it's really nice tool and has a repo for 8.10
[15:50] <noaXess> http://wicd.sourceforge.net/download.php -> Installing Wicd in Ubuntu
[15:51] <noaXess> does anybody know, where the keyboard shortcuts are saved?
[15:51] <KingOfDos> but still. it's strange that kubuntu comes with crap like knetworkmanager. that detects the wireless at two diffrent laptops, but never works
[15:52] <KingOfDos> with nm-applet it's working correctly, but that's not available at kubuntu 8.10
[15:54] <noaXess> KingOfDos: really use wicd.. it's perfect.. and works really fine on my asus vx2 notebook
[15:55] <faileas> mark_g: yes. other than desktop managers they are identical
[15:58] <noaXess> grrrrr.. can't run ALT+F2... crashed.. is it possible to get it back?
[15:59] <noaXess> is there a service that manage all the keyboard shortcuts?
[15:59] <JontheEchidna> noaXess: run krunner from a terminal
[16:00] <noaXess> JontheEchidna: ha :) fine thanks
[16:00] <JontheEchidna> then alt+f2 should be back
[16:00] <noaXess> JontheEchidna: you know where all the kb shortcuts will be saved? cause i have a lot of entries in systemsettings / keyboard
[16:00] <noaXess> JontheEchidna: it's back
[16:00] <mark_g> anyone knows how to uninstall konqueror?
[16:01] <KingOfDos> noaXess: "this network requires encryption to be enabled."
[16:01] <noaXess> KingOfDos: then do it.. open the network and under andvanced settings put in the WPA/WEP key
[16:01] <KingOfDos> oh wait, i've got it. options are with some dropdown thing :)
[16:01] <JontheEchidna> noaXess: Keyboard & Mouse -> keyboard shortcuts
[16:01] <noaXess> hihi
[16:02] <KingOfDos> and i'm to slow when typing ;)
[16:02] <mark_g> anyone knows how to uninstall konqueror? can't find it in adept.
[16:02] <noaXess> JontheEchidna: that i know.. but there i can't delete them.. i have a lot of entries for eg. "Go to KDE Website" and so on
[16:02] <JontheEchidna> oh, yeah. That's sort of broken at the moment
[16:02] <noaXess> mark_g: i thinkt konquerror is a part of kubuntu kde syste,
[16:02] <JontheEchidna> the changes don't get saved
[16:03] <noaXess> JontheEchidna: are there config files for the kb shortcuts in my user profeil?.. so i can manually delete them?
[16:03] <JontheEchidna> yeah, but I don't know where
[16:03] <mark_g> noaXess: i see.
[16:03]  * noaXess searching deeper in the rabbit hole :)
[16:03] <KingOfDos> noaXess: thanks, it works nice. not that good as nm-applet but way better then knetworkmanager
[16:04] <noaXess> KingOfDos: don't know nm-applet.. but love wicd..
[16:04] <KingOfDos> nm-applet support vpn/pptp/etc :)
[16:04] <noaXess> KingOfDos: ok.. is it gnome based?
[16:05] <KingOfDos> i've seen it working on kde, gnome and xfce
[16:10] <wesolek> hello
[16:10] <wesolek> can anybody help me out with forwarding images from another machine?
[16:11] <wesolek> or connecting to my kubuntu from another machine... I know I need to install some sort of host-server or something like that, just can't remember the name
[16:12] <mark_g> !samba
[16:12] <wesolek> it's not windows
[16:18] <vito_> ciauz c' è qualcuno ?
[16:19] <genii> !it | vito_
[16:20] <vito_> ;-)
[16:21] <TekkieFreak> Wow, I need a cup of coffee...everyone appears to be speaking Italian
[16:21]  * genii hands TekkieFreak a large Kubuntu mug of coffee
[16:22] <TekkieFreak> Oh thank you!! I so need that. :)
[16:22] <eni> medoooooooooo chuvaaaaaa socorroooooooo
[16:23] <wesolek> can anybody help me to connect to my kubuntu from another terminal (another machine)?
[16:23] <mark_g> how to encrypt large files in kubuntu?
[16:26] <TekkieFreak> wesolek: Sorry, I'm not sure how.  You can probably just ssh...if that's what you're looking for.
[16:26] <Juanantonio1> Hello, can anyone help me with the problems I have with X server? Everytime I set nvidia driver instead of VESA, KDM doesn't want to start
[16:27] <TekkieFreak> There's also remote desktop stuff out there, but I'm not exactly sure how it works.
[16:27] <TekkieFreak> juan, Oh I think if you run gdm it will help.  Then you should still be able to run kde under gdm
[16:27] <TekkieFreak> I have Nvidia
[16:28] <CIF> alguem aqui usa xchat??
[16:28] <mark_g> anybody knows how to encrypt large files in kubuntu?
[16:29] <Pici> !br | CIF
[16:29] <CIF> simm
[16:30] <mark_g> wesolek: http://www.kubuntu.org/doc/7.10/network/C/sharing.html
[16:30] <TekkieFreak> Hrm...coffee is waking me up, but I still can't speak Italian. :) I guess there's only so much coffee can do for you.
[16:30] <noaXess> !info kgpg | mark_g
[16:31] <wesolek> TekkieFreak, I use ssh, and it works, just my kubuntu won't accept opening windows
[16:32] <TekkieFreak> wesolek: Hrm...Oh are you looking for maybe a remote desktop?
[16:34] <TekkieFreak> I remember doing something like that...I think.  If we are talking about the same thing.
[16:34] <TekkieFreak> And this is a good 10 years ago...but you could ssh in and then start an emacs or something and have the window pop up on your machine.
[16:34] <wesolek> nope, not a remote desktop, when I use ssh -X, it won't diplay graphic windows
[16:35] <TekkieFreak> You had to give it an argument and tell it which X session to use.
[16:35] <TekkieFreak> I'm not using the right terms.
[16:36] <wesolek> it worked fine on SUSE, which I had before
[16:36] <wesolek> pretty sure I am using the command correctly
[16:36] <TekkieFreak> Hrm.
[16:37] <wesolek> and when I run a terminal on another machine, it won't ssh to this new kubuntu
[16:37] <TekkieFreak> Oh...hrm.  I'm afraid I can't be of much help.
[16:37] <wesolek> I think I may have found a remedy, but I think I need to reboot as I modified some files
[16:37] <wesolek> thanks tekkiefreak!
[16:38] <TekkieFreak> Erm, well you are very welcome! I do try.
[16:42] <Juanantonio1> Sorry, TekkiFreak, I was having a look at Kubuntu channel forum
[16:42] <Juanantonio1> But it seems to me, that nvidia drivers work as they want to, not as they were designed to ;)
[16:43] <Juanantonio1> Anyway, if you could help me telling me which tjings I can check so as to get more precise help, you'd be welcomed
[16:45] <TekkieFreak> Juanantonio1: I'm afraid I'm really new to Linux.  So far, I just tend to try to get things to work so they are usable.
[16:46] <TekkieFreak> For instance...I have a Dell laptop running my Ubuntu install and an external monitor plugged in.
[16:46] <zbyszek> hi is it possible to enable video preview in dolphin in kde4?
[16:46] <TekkieFreak> And it works...but I can't seem to get it to just use the external monitor alone...it uses both and it's a little weird.
[16:47] <Juanantonio1> Hehehe, Yes, it is the same thing about me. I got Vista 32 and a worm or something entered in that partition, and went to KDE because I used in the past SUSE and did know this environment
[16:48] <TekkieFreak> Juanantonio1: And It seems to work better with gnome.  I don't think everything is quite ironed out in kde4 yet
[16:48] <Juanantonio1> No no, I don't need KDE 4, just KDE running properly ;)
[16:49] <TekkieFreak> Juanantonio1: oh you are on kde3.5?
[16:49] <Juanantonio1> just as Vista does not ;)
[16:49] <TekkieFreak> I have Vista dual-boot but have only used it once for like 5 minutes. :) I don't like it much.
[16:49] <Juanantonio1> Yes, I did not find a reason to migrate from 3.5 from 4
[16:50] <TekkieFreak> Hrm...and you are running the Nvidia proprietary drivers?
[16:50] <TekkieFreak> I have a "NVIDIA X Server Settings" app on mine.
[16:50] <Juanantonio1> Vista is complete chaos. The only reason to use it would be 64 bits, but I got in my PC the 32 bits, so I only start Vista to play
[16:51] <TekkieFreak> Ubuntu offers a 64-bit.  I'm running it. :) It rocks!
[16:51] <Juanantonio1> Yes, I have it; but when I start with this driver, KDM and X server so not start until I reconfigure Xorg and then it works
[16:52] <Juanantonio1> Yes, I have Kubuntu 8.04 64 bits
[16:52] <mahdialsholi> هاااااااااااااااااااااي
[16:52] <mahdialsholi> انه واحد بحكي عربي
[16:52] <TekkieFreak> Juanantonio1: Hrm...I'm not sure what to tell you.  Mine works pretty well.  As I said it's a little weird and doesn't work how I'd like it to.
[16:52] <Juanantonio1> Hehehe
[16:53] <Juanantonio1> Thing is, that I only want the PC running well, I don't need the last version of a program that works properly and serves for what I installed
[16:54] <TekkieFreak> Juanantonio1: Yeah, I understand that!
[16:57] <TekkieFreak> Okie...well I'd love to stay, but got work to do....good luck Juanantonio1...bbl
[16:57] <Juanantonio1> Thanks, bye
[17:03] <cuznt> Juanantonio1 in my dyslexia i read that as Juantomino
[17:06] <Juanantonio1> Hehehe, ok
[17:07] <Juanantonio1> if you can help me with Xserver, no problem ;)
[17:08] <fjellrev1> Anyone here have any experience with Fujitsu-Siemens Amilo 1718?I dont what all how to's say but still no result with wireless
[17:08] <fjellrev1> dont-done
[17:09] <karl_> hey, how can I install cmake v 2.6.2 without using the backports repo?
[17:13] <Dragonath> hmm how do I convert a .bin to .iso if there is no .cue file?
[17:15] <trappist> Dragonath: I'm pretty sure you need a .cue
[17:17] <Dragonath> trappist: well I've mounted .bin files without .cue files in windows before.. anyways I think I found a way to generate a cue file
[17:18] <lzfy> Hi all
[17:18] <mfilipe> what is the package which add support to kde theme in gtk programs?
[17:18] <mfilipe> I want remove it
[17:20] <scribbles> why does snort 2.8.3 have a /doc/signatures but 2.8.3.1 doesn't?
[17:20] <scribbles> where did they move it?
[17:21] <genii> mfilipe: gtk-qt-engine-kde4     or   gtk-qt-engine      perhaps even: gtk2-engines-gtk-qt
[17:22] <mfilipe> genii: thanks
[17:22] <genii> mfilipe: np
[17:26] <floown> hello
[17:26] <floown> I can't install kooka with sudo apt-get install kooka... where is it, please?
[17:27] <genii> It no longer exists
[17:28] <floown> genii: what should I use now?
[17:29] <genii> floown: I believe kipi-plugins
[17:32] <misel_> üdv
[17:32] <tacosarecool> hello
[17:32] <genii> !hu | misel_
[17:33] <tacosarecool> How do I make my digital camera work with kubuntu
[17:33] <tacosarecool> You know what I'm going to search synaptic first
[17:34] <tacosarecool> Ok how do I make it work
[17:35] <tacosarecool> Kodak Easyshare Z1285
[17:47] <Dragonath> tacosarecool: tried searching the ubuntu forums (ubuntuforums.org) already?
[17:50] <jeremy__> hi
[17:52] <jeremy__> can I ask a question on here
[17:52] <jeremy__> is anybody reading?
[17:52] <onio> joui ?
[17:52] <jeremy__> I am trying to listen to shoutcast radio on Amarok but it says it has not decoder
[17:52] <jeremy__> does anybody know how I can fix that problem?
[17:53] <jeremy__> ?
[17:54] <jeremy__> tjis sucks
[17:54] <Juanantonio> Hello, I fell again trying to solve the X server problem
[17:55] <aaron> jeremy, try installing kubuntu-restricted-extras package if you haven't already
[17:55] <jeremy__> ok. I will try that
[17:55] <jeremy__> thanks aaron
[17:55] <aaron> np
[17:59] <Juanantonio> I got a problem concerning Nvidia GeForce 7100 on-board VGA, KDM does not start when I install Nvidia drivers
[18:01] <BluesKaj> Juanantonio, have you installed the generic nv driver which seems to be the one for intrepid ?
[18:02] <Juanantonio> No, I have not Intrepid, I have Ku 8.04 64 bits
[18:09] <LDSHDW> I'm using kopete as a "msn messenger " client and I want to change the sending settings. I'm not talking about the regular settings, I mean the new windows that spawns up every time that you do send a file. If I do send like 5 files for my friend in kopete it will open 5 different new windows for it. In windows msn messenger it did put the sending information in the screen / windows that you are using when you talk with your friend
[18:09] <LDSHDW> and it shows up in the text  ( if you get what I mean). And in skype it does open a new windows where _all_ the files that you send are arranged. But in Kopete it opens new windows for every file. I wan't to change it. It doesn't matter if it's like msn messenger where you can see the sending information in the normal tekst or like in skype where it does open new windows for all the files. I just hate the way that kopete does send
[18:09] <LDSHDW> files.
[18:16] <aaron> LDSHDW, are you sending the files from the main Kopete window?
[18:16] <LDSHDW> umm I drag the files I want to send to the windows
[18:17] <LDSHDW> I don't usually use the real send button and search the files by that way. I'm used to drag the files
[18:17] <aaron> ah, so for each file you drag-and-drop it opens a progress window
[18:17] <LDSHDW> yeah it does that
[18:18] <aaron> I don't see any preferences to turn that off, and that's a pretty standard KDE action for any kind of file transfer.
[18:18] <LDSHDW> it is? oh, I hate it.
[18:19] <LDSHDW> I did search up all the preferences few times too and nothing there.
[18:23] <|TJ|> Afternoon Everyone!
[18:24] <Juanantonio> Hello
[18:24] <aaron> sorry LDSHDW, I'm not seeing anything in System Settings either.
[18:24] <aaron> maybe the .rc file?
[18:24] <LDSHDW> ok I was thinking about the umm spesific windows settings?
[18:24] <LDSHDW> .rc file?
[18:24] <aaron> eehm. . . .
[18:25] <aaron> ~/.kde/share/config/kopeterc
[18:26] <aaron> I don't see anything in there that looks promising.
[18:28] <Samuel-NotAFK> What's the partitioner on the live cd?
[18:28] <kevin__> i just went to kubuntu i guess? either way the only way I can get to the login screen is allowing the comp to use low graphics mode and then run the session under kde.  When i use gnome low graphics its scrambled
[18:30] <Juanantonio> Hi, Kevin. I have the same problem, but I only try KDE
[18:31] <TekkieFreak> Ralpho!!!
[18:34] <ralpho> Still kicken lurken
[18:34] <kevin__> shoot, any progress?
[18:34] <kevin__> juanan
[18:35] <zer0o> hi guys how do i modify in kopete the "received files destination folder" from "home" to another one?
[18:42] <florian> de
[18:43] <Copelia> !fr
[18:44] <Dekans> hello
[18:44] <Dekans> is amarok 2 RC1 available for 64 bits architecture ?
[18:51] <itsatrick> I accidentally quit the volume manager in KDE.  Is there a way to restart it?  Thanks.
[18:52] <dschulz> itsatrick: kde4?
[18:52] <itsatrick> Yup.
[18:52] <astratto> hello! I have a very annoying problem with playing videos... no matter which player I use (dragon, mplayer..) it freezes randomly for 1 second
[18:52] <astratto> I'm running kde 4.1.3, any hints?
[18:53] <dschulz> itsatrick: try  ALT + F2  then enter kmix and hit enter
[18:53] <itsatrick> astratto: Does the video continue?  Is it a DVD?
[18:54] <itsatrick> dschulz: Thanks.
[18:54] <astratto> itsatrick: no, avi, flv... the video goes on
[18:54] <itsatrick> :(
[18:54] <astratto> ah, youtube etc.. work well
[18:54] <itsatrick> I know that Flash videos do that for me.
[18:55] <itsatrick> astratto: Sorry, then...I don't know. :(
[18:56] <dschulz> astratto: same behaviour here
[18:56] <astratto> itsatrick: :D  thanks
[18:56] <astratto> dschulz: uhm... good, video chipset?
[18:57] <dschulz> intel GM965/GL960
[18:57] <dschulz> it's a cheapo toshiba laptop
[18:58] <astratto> uhm... I have an intel GMA945... same driver I suppose...
[19:00] <dschulz> with hardy i386  didnt had this problem
[19:01] <TekkieFreak> I always had trouble with intel video chips
[19:01] <dschulz> are you running i386 or x86_64?
[19:01] <astratto> dschulz: neither did I... I should try with xfce or gnome
[19:01] <astratto> i386
[19:01] <dschulz> i thought it was related to x86_64
[19:01] <dschulz> but...
[19:02] <astratto> nope :/
[19:02] <LDSHDW> what was the command I should use when I open a program via console and I want to untie it so that when I close my console the program that I opened via it wont close too. I think it was something like <program> &  <something>
[19:02] <TekkieFreak> yep > programname &
[19:03] <TekkieFreak> the & runs it in the background.
[19:03] <PhilRod> LDSHDW: if the program is already running, you'll have to 'disown' it
[19:03] <PhilRod> otherwise start it with nohup, or use screen
[19:03] <LDSHDW> disown thnx !!! !!
[19:04] <alexei> I have difficulties with login to launchpad, get this: "__init__() takes exactly 2 arguments (3 given)" What is wrong?
[19:07] <noaXess> does anybody know a good tool to create a dvd in kde4?
[19:07] <noaXess> i know kmediafactory, but it has not mutch options..
[19:08] <noaXess> for video editing i use kdenlive on kde 4.1 that is ok, but there is no create DVD optione..
[19:08] <Juanantonio> No progress
[19:08] <festher> what about k3b
[19:09] <festher> i burned kubuntu iso on a dvd with that
[19:09] <OxDeadC0de> noaxess try aptitude search dvd there are a lot of programs out there to help make dvd's from menu's to burning the images
[19:09] <Juanantonio> I am a little discouraged, what a mess
[19:09] <noaXess> OxDeadC0de: jep there are a lot, thats why i ask here..
[19:09] <noaXess> festher: i need a tool to make a DVD menu.. k3b can only burn it
[19:09] <festher> oh i c
[19:10] <festher> does any know how to fix kmail from ignoring empty lines in send mails?
[19:10] <festher> my mails looks like one big block of text with no "enter" used
[19:11] <festher> im using space to force an empty line atm.
[19:13] <OxDeadC0de> noaxess you might want to try different ones, but qdvdauthor looks promising
[19:13] <noaXess> OxDeadC0de: jep ok.. found it too ;)
[19:13] <festher> any advice on java on 8.10 64bit?
[19:14] <festher> i havent had much luck with that
[19:14] <Juanantonio> Somebody know how to handel the files within /etc/X11/?
[19:16] <PhilRod> Juanantonio: what do you want to do with them?
[19:17] <Juanantonio> Fix the best driver and the best resolution for my VGA, a GeForce 7100 on-board, Kubunto only allows me to handle it with VESA driver
[19:23] <itsatrick> quit
[19:28] <OxDeadC0de> juanantonio sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf - find the "device" section, add (driver "nvidia") without the ()'s
[19:28] <OxDeadC0de> juanantonio that is - after installing the nvidia driver through jockey-kde
[19:29] <onio> JOUIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
[19:29] <Juanantonio> Buff, that sounds me like chinese language, hehehe
[19:29] <onio> OUIIIIIIIIIII
[19:29] <festher> how do i know if my firefox is 32 or 64bit :)
[19:29] <OxDeadC0de> juanantonio open a console, type: jockey-kde , it will be easy
[19:30] <Juanantonio> Ok, if you help me, I will try everything you do
[19:30] <Juanantonio> Alt+F2 or not that type of console?
[19:31] <OxDeadC0de> kde menu/utilities/terminal - that kind of console :)
[19:32] <Juanantonio> Ok, my friend. As you can see, I am very very new in Kubuntu
[19:32] <Juanantonio> Escuchando a toda castaña La noche por Muchachito Bombo Infierno de Visto lo Visto
[19:35] <Juanantonio> Ox, I have made that
[19:35] <opa>      Google Mail
[19:35] <OxDeadC0de> juanantonio okay after you have enabled the nvidia driver (177), then after you log out and log in it should be okay (it might need a reboot)
[19:36] <Juanantonio> No, no, I have not installed that, I have installed the one coming in repos
[19:37] <OxDeadC0de> !jockey
[19:40] <Juanantonio> Ox, I have unloaded 177.80 from Nvidia's web, shall we try to install that
[19:40] <Juanantonio> ?
[19:43] <hammydude> how do I restore the taskbar to my panel after I deleted it?
[19:44] <immanuel> hammydude: are you using kde4?
[19:45] <hammydude> immanuel: ah yes, should have mentioned that
[19:45] <hammydude> 4.1
[19:45] <Juanantonio> OxDude, can you help me?
[19:46] <immanuel> so, right-click on panel -> add Widgets -> select Task Manager -> click the Add Widget Button
[19:46] <hammydude> immanuel: thanks so much, I don't know how I missed that in the widgets menu
[19:46] <immanuel> hammydude: no problem ;)
[19:51] <noaXess> what about lithscribe on linux/kubuntu/kde4?
[19:51] <wesley__> !adeptfix
[19:53] <jim88> hi all ... got a quick question ... does anyone know of any linux program that acts as a cd/dvd player that is software based?
[19:53] <noaXess> how do i manage bluetooth devices on kde4?
[19:53] <jolynn> Hi, i'm having trouble getting my sound to work. Can anyone help me?
[19:57] <noaXess> !bluetooth
[19:58] <YAOMTC> I recently realized that when someone is logged in as a guest user, they can view all the files in my home folder... And that Ubuntu recently added home folder encryption?
[19:59] <dek> since I upgraded to KDE4 and I want to use KNode, I get "502 Permission denied" error. Any fix?
[19:59] <kurosaki_ichigo> More people who have working the iphone under Kubuntu
[20:00] <YAOMTC> What would be a good way of protecting my home folder from guest reading on Kubuntu, like the feature Ubuntu apparently now has? (I'd prefer not to switch back to GNOME right now)
[20:01] <kurosaki_ichigo> I believe if you go to /home/user and edit premissions that would work or els go to user panel
[20:02] <kurosaki_ichigo> okay go to root and then home and then click with right on your home folder
[20:02] <noaXess> !widget
[20:03] <heinkel_111> good evening :) is it recommended to make your own directory names for mountpoints in the /media/ directory? Or is /media/ only for the systems automounts?
[20:03] <YAOMTC> Properties, Permissions... I see. Thanks!
[20:03] <kurosaki_ichigo> you will get a properties screen and in the middle you can set premissions, but i gues you have to do this as root
[20:03] <YAOMTC> It'd be nice if I could set permissions for individual groups, rather than just groups in general. Oh well, good enough I suppose
[20:04] <heinkel_111> I don't want my music files mounted on /media/sda1 I want it to be /media/music or something like that'
[20:04] <kurosaki_ichigo> I believe thats possible you can add users to users groups
[20:04] <heinkel_111> comments/recommendations?
[20:05] <YAOMTC> Mkay, I'm gonna try this, I'll be back
[20:05] <kurosaki_ichigo> heinkel_111 its a good idea to make mount pounts for your internal drives, but theres no need to do this for external drives
[20:05] <heinkel_111> kurosaki_ichigo: this is for several partitions of a new internal drive, yes
[20:06] <kurosaki_ichigo> My advice would be set them with your install already, because after install it can get harder to set them right ( my experience )
[20:06] <heinkel_111> kurosaki_ichigo: in the /media folder the OS automagically creates some mountpoints that I am no big fan of, like /media/sda1 --- it tells me nothing
[20:07] <noaXess> is there a widget for bluetooth devices?
[20:07] <kurosaki_ichigo> heinkel_111 sda1 is your first drive
[20:08] <heinkel_111> kurosaki_ichigo: Yes I much better liked the Dapper way where everything was mounted manually or using /etc/fstab. The newschool automagics are much harder to understand
[20:08] <heinkel_111> kurosaki_ichigo: no, ironically it is the new one I purchased and still blank :)
[20:09] <kurosaki_ichigo> I always point then manually during install like sda1 = root sda2 = swap sda3 = /home
[20:09] <heinkel_111> kurosaki_ichigo: my first drive got renamed to sdc, that is auto-magic
[20:09] <kurosaki_ichigo> ow strange
[20:09] <jim88> hi all  ... does anyone know of any linux program that act as a cd/dvd player that is software based?
[20:09] <heinkel_111> kurosaki_ichigo: and quite annoyingly nonsensical
[20:10] <kurosaki_ichigo> jim88 you mean to make a media center with Linux ?
[20:10] <kurosaki_ichigo> www.medibuntu.org
[20:10] <jim88> kurosaki_ichigo ... no just to run cd/dvds
[20:11] <kurosaki_ichigo> http://www.medibuntu.org/
[20:12] <kurosaki_ichigo> jim88 i suggest installing VLC if i got it right it plays almost everthing and medibuntu contains codecs for dvd play i believe
[20:13] <jim88> kurosaki_ichigo ... I have VLC installed and it is not reconizing the disc
[20:13] <jim88> I am running gutsy
[20:13] <jim88> kurosaki_ichigo ... I think it's a hardware issue
[20:13] <kurosaki_ichigo> then install codecs from medibuntu.org and you should be able to play dvds with kaffeine
[20:15] <kurosaki_ichigo> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu#Playing Encrypted DVDs
[20:16] <kurosaki_ichigo> don´t know if gutsy is still supported
[20:17] <chase> hey everbody, i have a quick question for those who are good with shell scripting, any takers?
[20:20] <Pici> chase: You may want to ask in #bash
[20:22] <jim88> kurosaki_ichigo ... thanks I installed everything ... let me see if it works
[20:23] <chase> Pici: thank you, i just thought id start here
[20:24] <kurosaki_ichigo> jim88 no thanks
[20:25] <YAOMTC> Thanks, that's just what I wanted. Good to know.
[20:25] <kurosaki_ichigo> So it worked
[20:25] <YAOMTC> Yep
[20:26] <alexei> so, people, how can I enable good old console8x16? bitmap font in KDE4 Konsole on Intrepid. Apt-cache does not return anything on console8x16.
[20:27] <jim88> kurosaki_ichigo ... hold a sec ... I am at work and this is a work machine
[20:32] <jim88> kurosaki_ichigo ... you said kaffine will play it?
[20:33] <jim88> kurosaki_ichigo ... or should
[20:33] <kurosaki_ichigo> kaffeine yeah
[20:33] <kurosaki_ichigo> but don´t know sure i never play dvds
[20:33] <jim88> kurosaki_ichigo ... kaffeine keeps crashing
[20:33] <jim88> kurosaki_ichigo ... maybe I have to reboot
[20:35] <kurosaki_ichigo> you can try other players
[20:35] <jim88> kurosaki_ichigo ... one sec
[20:35] <jim88> kurosaki_ichigo ... will try vlc
[20:36] <noaXess> someone has also problem with 8.10 and removable dvd-drive?
[20:36] <noaXess> my dvd-drvie will only be connected if i reboot my notebook..
[20:37] <nurv> hello plp. I wanna use my bluetooth to send from laptop to gsm but It doesn't work. Is there any more software that I must install after kdebluetooth4?
[20:37] <noaXess> if i plug out and plug in it will system is running, no dvd-drive will be connected
[20:37] <jim88> kurosaki_ichigo ... that is not working either, however, I am not going back to Windoze lololol
[20:38] <jim88> kurosaki_ichigo ... let me restart ... thanks for your help
[20:38] <noaXess> if i unplug the drive i see: http://paste.ubuntu.com/76558/
[20:44] <xenol> uhh dont know if i can call it a problem. but when i try to control sound via multimedia buttons, it works. but doesnt display at what level is the sound. any idea how to fix it? :>
[20:49] <dr_willis> xenol,  some people would call you lucky that those bttons work at all :P
[20:51] <xenol> dr_willis: i was changing hds in my lappy, and before it worked :>
[20:52] <xenol> dr_willis: i bought dell laptop for reason that they got support for *buntu
[20:52] <edju> If I login from kdm, kde is funky - the windows lack grab bars and borders, typing in konsole yields white squares, and more.  If I log in from the cli w/ startx, kde is fine.  Some config file?  If so, can't find which.  Why the difference?
[20:53] <dr_willis> xenol,  it worked in kde 4 befor? or 3.9 or gnome?  they sort of are working. :) just no feedback.. if i read your post right,.
[20:54] <xenol> kde4 dr_willis
[20:55] <dr_willis> it very well could be some kde4 'new' bug..
[20:56] <noaXess> hey dr_willis
[20:56] <xenol> dr_willis: tho it was working after update for kde as well, only mute wasnt working. now all buttons work, but when i am lowering the volume, it display 100% all the time on OSD
[20:57] <noaXess> my dvd-drive (hotplug) won't work after put it in wile system is running.. nothing is happend.. need to reboot then i can use it
[20:57] <noaXess> any idea?
[20:57] <dr_willis> Hotplug - is very much a 'grey' area..  and can be very hard to get going right
[20:58] <noaXess> dr_willis: is it kernel problem or? cause in 8.04 all worked fine
[20:58] <mourat> Hi. Help me please. Where i can finde profile in Kopete?
[20:59] <ThomasD> mourat: configure > identity
[20:59] <heinkel_111> how do I format a filesystem to ntfs format using gparted?
[20:59] <noaXess> mourat: ~/.kde/share/apps/kopete
[20:59] <heinkel_111> the ntfs choice is greyed out in the meny
[20:59] <heinkel_111> menu
[21:00] <ThomasD> !ntfs
[21:01] <heinkel_111> ThomasD: thank you, but my problem is to _create_ the ntfs partition
[21:01] <heinkel_111> ThomasD: mounting I can handle quite well
[21:02] <noaXess> dr_willis: is there a way to restart hotplug?
[21:02] <heinkel_111> it seems like I don't have the right tools to create ntfs filesystem?
[21:03] <ThomasD> heinkel_111: sudo apt-get install ntfsprogs
[21:03] <ThomasD> and try to format again
[21:04]  * noaXess needs some sleep..
[21:05] <kabotage> ummm whats -y suppose to mean?
[21:05] <heinkel_111> ThomasD: bingo! just had to restart gparted afterwards and everything worked fine
[21:05] <kabotage> sudo apt-get -y  ?
[21:05] <heinkel_111> ThomasD: thank you :)
[21:05] <ThomasD> heinkel_111: np
[21:05] <Pici> kabotage: It answers yes'
[21:06] <Pici> kabotage: It answers 'yes' to any questions that apt-get asks.
[21:06] <kabotage> Pici: ahhh, k. thanks xD
[21:14] <raysen> HOLA
[21:15] <raysen> que acen kubunteros
[21:15] <festher> omg why!
[21:16] <festher> kvpnc keep complaining about no pppd and pptpd demons not installed
[21:16] <festher> and ive installed ALL application starting with ppp now
[21:16] <HappySmileMan> Are pppd and pptpd running?
[21:16] <Barackuse> how do I tell if php is working ?
[21:16] <festher> i dont know
[21:16] <HappySmileMan> Might not be running unless you started them yourself or rebooted
[21:17] <festher> okay
[21:17] <festher> thought they would be started if needed
[21:17] <festher> ill try rebbot thanks
[21:21] <mourat> Hola raysen
[21:22] <raysen> que onda murat
[21:23] <raysen> que haces ahorita en el mejor sistema operativo mourat pasame tu direccion ip
[21:25] <mourat> Comprendo mal español a yo ubunta Yo en Francia
[21:26] <MolePrince> Howdy.  How can I connect to a daap share with Amarok please?  I've been googling and reading the forum to no avail.
[21:28] <mourat>  Hi. Help me please. Where i can finde profile in Kopete?
[21:28] <administrateur> hello
[21:29] <gamecult> Hello PLs i need the french Irc pls
[21:29] <gamecult> Hello PLS, I need the french Irc pls
[21:29] <mourat> gamecult  moi, je veux en russe )
[21:30] <gamecult> PLs french IRC
[21:30] <festher> how to i make pptp and pptpd deamon run
[21:30] <mourat> gamecult  moi, je veux en russe
[21:31] <gamecult> lol
[21:31] <mourat> gamecult tu peux chercher en google site de ubuntu en français
[21:31] <chase> can i use pine on kubuntu?
[21:32] <gamecult> french IRC pls
[21:32] <heinkel_111> !fr
[21:33] <heinkel_111> voila
[21:33] <mourat> http://www.ubuntu-fr.org/chatlogin         irc en français
[21:42]  * snyderios is away: Zur Zeit nicht da.
[21:45] <boris_> hello to everithing... this question could sounds a little bit stupid but..... How can I hide the task panel in Kubuntu Intrepid ibex?
[21:48] <Dekans> boris_: it's not possible yet with KDE 4
[21:49] <boris_> !
[21:49] <Dekans> in KDE 4.2 it will be implemented, but now with KDE 4.1 we can't
[21:49] <boris_> that's a good reason
[21:50] <boris_> really thanks!
[21:50] <heinkel_111> dudes...is launchpad working properly now?
[21:50] <heinkel_111> I can't seem to get a proper login
[21:51] <heinkel_111> it accepts my login but it does not log me in
[21:52] <heinkel_111> that is I get a "username and password don't match" if I don't type the correct combination but the correct combination sends me nowhere special
[21:52] <heinkel_111> anyone? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu
[22:09] <dr_willis> launchpad bugs on launchpad?
[22:09] <dr_willis> :)
[22:09] <dr_willis> or did i missread that..
[22:15] <heinkel_111> dr_willis: I just can't get into my launchpad account to do anything
[22:17] <simon__> how to get adobe flash player?
[22:18] <heinkel_111> !flash
[22:18] <simon__> yeh but what is the sudo ... comand?
[22:19] <dr_willis> I tend to install the 'kubuntu-restricted-extras' package - it grabs flash and java and other bits
[22:19] <dr_willis> that you most likely want also
[22:19] <simon__> hm...
[22:25] <woodefec> hey
[22:25] <sorush20> I want to use kde dialogue with firefox how do I don that?
[22:25] <woodefec> nomidnight commander in the ubuntu repos
[22:25] <woodefec> i mean no
[22:25] <woodefec> hows that?
[22:26] <woodefec> where do i find it? all sources running
[22:27] <woodefec> hello
[22:27] <allen> hello
[22:28] <woodefec> here's earth, people, do you know midnight commander? i've got a kubuntu 8.10 installed here, searching for it in Adept
[22:28] <woodefec> btw: mc is really nice
[22:28] <woodefec> hey allen - tried mc?
[22:29] <allen> ? mc
[22:29] <woodefec> common
[22:29] <allen> newbie
[22:29] <woodefec> oh,its the cli file manager
[22:30] <allen> look for help on getting KDE 3.5 up and running on Ubuntu 8.10.
[22:30] <chase> im writing a shell script and it will pull up the terminal but it will not show any of my echo statements
[22:30] <allen> or is that to off subject?
[22:31] <woodefec> ok,found it.The adept installer had problems. The manager did find it
[22:32] <woodefec> allen, i've read about it on kubuntu forums - there is an unofficial repo for KDE 3.5.x
[22:33] <allen> I tried the only repo I could find and it closed down as requested by Kbuntu dev team.
[22:34] <woodefec> allen,so try another distro that supports it or kubuntu 8.04
[22:35] <woodefec> i go for KDE 4
[22:35] <woodefec> some software (like konversation) is still 3.5.x on kubuntu 8.10
[22:36] <woodefec> got to sleep, good luck. ilike the 8.10
[22:36] <allen> I would like and stay with Ubuntu if I can. I never should have upgraded from 8.04.:(
[22:37] <dr_willis> Theres work being done on repos for kde 3.5 i hear.
[22:37] <dr_willis> not sure of the progress on it at this time
[22:38] <allen> I guess ill just have to wait then.
[22:39] <taewu> hi this is ubuntu chat room?
[22:39] <chase> kubuntu yes
[22:39] <taewu> right  can ask all?
[22:40] <chase> sure
[22:40] <allen> Any idea on when the repos for 3.5 will be up?
[22:40] <taewu> alrigh haw  to change my language  from english to korean?
[22:40] <kabotage> jaunty alpha1 is out. im upgrading my system. xD
[22:41] <chase> applications<system<system settings
[22:42] <allen> Ok thanks  Bye.
[22:55] <IDWMaster> My updates are downloading very slowly. Is the update server at security.ubuntu.com running slow today?
[22:56] <IDWMaster> The Adept package manager says it will take about 1 hour to download just a few updates for OpenOffice.
[23:00] <Jabrroa> it works fine for me :)
[23:01] <Jabrroa> slow connection?
[23:02] <R_Rios> Hello
[23:03] <R_Rios> I have a trouble with amarok-kde4
[23:03] <R_Rios> It is not opening
[23:04] <R_Rios> Then, when I run it via terminal, I get this:
[23:04] <R_Rios> FAILURE (KCmdLineArgs):
[23:04] <R_Rios> Application requests for isSet("multipleinstances") but the "multipleinstances"option
[23:04] <R_Rios> has never been specified via addCmdLineOptions( ... )
[23:04] <R_Rios> ASSERT: "0" in file /build/buildd/kde4libs-4.1.3/kdecore/kernel/kcmdlineargs.cpp, line 1499
[23:04] <R_Rios> Cancelado
[23:04] <Jabrroa> hmmm'
[23:05] <Jabrroa> you have all the required packages?
[23:05] <R_Rios> I think so
[23:06] <Jabrroa> im just getting used to linux so i will not be much help on this particular issue :(
[23:06] <R_Rios> =/
[23:06] <Jabrroa> sorry bro...
[23:06] <R_Rios> Well, I'm running Kubuntu Intrepid
[23:06] <R_Rios> With KDE 4.1.3
[23:06] <Jabrroa> intrepid?
[23:06] <R_Rios> Yeah
[23:06] <R_Rios> 8.10
[23:07] <Jabrroa> i have not used kde 4 yet as i am on backtrack currently
[23:07] <R_Rios> Hm
[23:07] <R_Rios> OK
[23:07] <Jabrroa>  trying to troubleshoot net probs :\
[23:07] <R_Rios> Thank you, anyway
[23:08] <Jabrroa> diddnt do anythin but np :)
[23:08] <Jabrroa>  good luck
[23:08] <erland> Hi, really simple question here hopefully:
[23:08] <erland> I'm trying to install KDE 4 on Ubuntu 8.10 - looks like the way you're supposed to do that is through the kubuntu-desktop meta package, but when I try that, it conflicts with the displayconfig-gtk and guidance-backends packages - I don't want to lose my nice automatic monitor set-up & detection under Gnome...
[23:08] <erland> What can I do?
[23:12] <steven60> moin
[23:16] <steven60> anybody out there can tell me the name of a programm that lets me stream under linux ubuntu under windows i used sam2
[23:27] <trampel> steven60: shoutcast perhaps ...?
[23:32] <juanantonio> Hello
[23:32] <juanantonio> Is it impossible to install an Nvidia driver?
[23:32] <juanantonio> I am trying through the afternoon and I couldn't get it
[23:35] <dr_willis> Ive installed them fine on my 3 nvidia based machines
[23:36] <juanantonio> Can you tell me how?
[23:36] <dr_willis> I did have to install/run the nvidia-settings tool and/or nvidia-xconfig to get the xorg.conf correct for one machine
[23:36] <dr_willis> I just clieked on the hardware-driver tool and told it to install them
[23:36] <The_ManU_212> dr_willis: i use mostly adept this kde tool but sometimes i also use apt-get is it ok or shpuldnt i? i only heard you should avoid using aptitude AND apt-get
[23:36] <dr_willis> I did nothing special. other then tweak the se4ttings with those 2 tools above
[23:36] <dr_willis> I never use aptitude.
[23:36] <dr_willis> adept is NOt aptitude
[23:38] <juanantonio> No idea, willis. I had installed driver from Nvidia page, but as soon as I restarted, X server blocked it and couldn't start KDM
[23:41] <juanantonio> Have you got idea about what may happen?
[23:42] <dr_willis> juanantonio,  Did you even TRY the drivers from the restricted-drivers tool?
[23:42] <dr_willis> Using them from the nvidia page - would be the last option to try
[23:43] <juanantonio> Yes, you mean the K menu?
[23:43] <The_ManU_212> dr_willis: i know that aptitude is not adept but i wanted to know if adept is based on apt-get so that it doesnt matter which of them i use (apt-get or adept)
[23:43] <dr_willis> I mean the 'hardware-driver-manager' tool thats in the menus somewhere.. and normally has an icon in the panel when you rifst boot up.
[23:44] <dr_willis> the command line command for it is 'sudo jockey-kde' (i think)
[23:44] <dr_willis> try that first...
[23:45] <juanantonio> Oh yes, but I cannot install anything from here, can't I?
[23:45] <dr_willis> 'anything from here' ?
[23:46] <dr_willis> that hardware manager tool can install the proper restricted-drivers for the nvidia cards.
[23:46] <juanantonio> But what must I do to install them? Must I click something?
[23:47] <dr_willis> Mine had check box's to enable the drivers.. it then download/installed them.
[23:49] <juanantonio> Uhu, I click that box and opened a windows saying Adept Batch, is that good?
[23:49] <dr_willis> I dont have gthe kde stuff menmmrized
[23:49] <cuznt> juan... you downloaded kde and now your nvidia card does not work?
[23:50] <cuznt> or installed rather
[23:50] <cuznt> ?
[23:50] <cuznt> i had that problem
[23:51] <cuznt> after a clean install it fixed itself
[23:51] <The_ManU_212> dr_willis: can you help me with my question?
[23:51] <cuznt> dr_willis: i know that aptitude is not adept but i wanted to know if adept is based on apt-get so that it doesnt matter which of them i use (apt-get or adept)
[23:51] <cuznt> that one?
[23:51] <juanantonio> No, KDE in the beginning worked properly...with VESA driver. I tried to install a NVIDIA drivers, first from the web, then by Add-Remove, and the only thing I get, is to have it working until I restart KDE, because in this moment, or I choose driver VESA, either I cannot login
[23:51] <juanantonio> this is the complete problem
[23:52] <cuznt> !nvidia
[23:52] <cuznt> did you go there?
[23:52] <cuznt> The_ManU_212 it does not matter which you use
[23:53] <cuznt> i use synaptic package manager to install most programs
[23:53] <juanantonio> No idea, man, it is days and days, and besides, GL is not working
[23:53] <cuznt> man
[23:53] <cuznt> have you restarted
[23:53] <cuznt> hit esc
[23:53] <cuznt> and choose recover mode?
[23:53] <juanantonio> You know, I am very very happy with Kubuntu, but I am driving crazy with the video driver
[23:54] <cuznt> i know
[23:54] <juanantonio> Yes, and it made me choose VESA driver
[23:54] <cuznt> it made me nuts too
[23:54] <cuznt> hmmmm
[23:54] <cuznt> what is a vesa driver?
[23:54] <cuznt> !VESA
[23:55] <cuznt> see i do not use the nvidia driver
[23:55] <aanderse> anyone know any kde4/qt4 web cam apps?
[23:55] <juanantonio> Which one are you using then?
[23:55] <dr_willis> Did you install the drivers from the nvidia site? or did you just not get that done all the way juanantonio ?
[23:55] <cuznt> the defalt
[23:56] <cuznt> you got to slowly try it again
[23:56] <dr_willis> The Order I try to get nvidia going on 'problem' systems.. -> the jockey-kde tool, the envyng tool, then if all else fails.. the installer from the nvida sen site.
[23:56] <The_ManU_212> cuznt: and what about the different lists about installed packages? ubuntu wikis are warning
[23:56] <cuznt> one small / instead of | might get you in the end
[23:56] <cuznt> sych as?
[23:57] <cuznt> such as?
[23:57] <Jabrroa> i have 3 9800 GTX 1 GB in sli mode on mine
[23:57] <Jabrroa> works like a charm :)
[23:57] <dr_willis> and you have a very nice Room-Warmer also!
[23:57] <dr_willis> :)
[23:58] <Jabrroa> yes and i need a freaking power plant to run them and their cooling lol
[23:58] <dr_willis> Been Playing Fallout3 on my 8800gtsxxx .. its hard for me to imagine the game looking any better with higher end cards.. :) but i guess the res could be higher.. :P and more blood/smoke
[23:58] <Jabrroa> 277700 wats
[23:58] <juanantonio> dr willis, I have no much idea, but I tried all this
[23:59] <juanantonio> GeForce 7100 / NVIDIA nForce 630i  0x07E1, this is my card
[23:59] <Jabrroa> i run it with my three 9800's and 32gb of corsair dominator ram and a amd 9850 black edition quad core
[23:59] <Jabrroa> runs crysis nicely
[23:59] <Jabrroa> fallout 3 is awesome