[00:00] the "cube" goes along with intrepedid ? === luiz is now known as apow [00:04] Hi guys. Just installed 8.10 using alternate installer CD (because I needed DM RAID for existing partitions). Now when I log in I the screen goes white for a second or so then goes black. I've got a mouse cursor (which I can move) but nothing else. Any idea how to fix this? [00:04] which player have to download to playstream in firefox ? [00:06] I can even hear the kde startup sound playing when the screen goes black. [00:08] which player have to download to playstream in firefox ? [00:15] #join #ubuntu-virt [00:15] how i download second life [00:17] blueVal: getdeb.net has a package for second life I believe [00:18] ty [00:19] ive updated to the new KDE (that im not too fond of) and have lost my desktop, tool bar at the bottom. can someone help me get it back? and what the hell is a "widget" lol [00:21] * joseph rings the bell on the counter === joseph is now known as Shiver_solo [00:22] ive updated to the new KDE (that im not too fond of) and have lost my desktop, tool bar at the bottom. can someone help me get it back? and what the hell is a "widget" lol [00:23] !widget [00:23] Sorry, I don't know anything about widget [00:23] !info widget [00:23] Package widget does not exist in intrepid [00:24] !info firefox [00:24] firefox (source: firefox-3.0): meta package for the popular mozilla web browser. In component main, is optional. Version 3.0.3+nobinonly-0ubuntu2 (intrepid), package size 67 kB, installed size 124 kB [00:25] Okay got my system working. Installed updates via aptitude and now things seem happy. Why don't I see firefox in the package repositories? or is it called Ice Weasel? I don't see either name when searching. [00:26] never mind. Found it in aptitude. Didn't show up in Adept for some reason. [00:26] which player have to download to playstream in firefox ? [00:28] hello all [00:29] !ark [00:29] Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with ark - also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression [00:32] hi all. i have download the drivers and still when i play a video on vlc flashes black screen all the time what i do wrong? [00:32] how to install autopackage? [00:33] although i set desktop sharing to password, and not to ask, everytime i try to vnc it still asks. how can i disable asking [00:34] how to install autopackage? i mean i dont have autopackage installed and i cat remember what have i typed into konsole and it start downloading autopackage [00:36] question: I was here yesterday, b/c I had trouble starting Kubuntu 8.10 live CD. When I got the blotchy screen, I hit ctrl+alt+backspace, and that got rid of the blotchy screen and started KDE 4.1. What does ctrl+alt+backspace accomplish in Linux? [00:36] puggg: it restarts the X server [00:36] ok stoopid question: Why couldn't X start right to begin with so that it doesn't have to be restarte? === ariel_ is now known as TekkieFreak [00:37] * TekkieFreak waves [00:37] DaSkreech: Yo! [00:37] puggg: it's a weird problem. i remember back in th day i used to have to restart my computer twice everytime because windows wouldnt see my cdrom. [00:38] TekkieFreak: Bedded the children? [00:38] strange b/c it's only a prob on 8.10 Kubuntu, not Ubuntu or Xubuntu [00:38] Heh, nope...they are awake still [00:38] a kde thing I guess? [00:38] burn_: sudo apt-get install autopackage [00:39] puggg: yeah could be some weird bug in kde or the driver [00:39] I have an nvidia 57xx card [00:39] puggg: nvidia has known problems with KDE [00:39] DaSkreech there is n autopackage but i find out :D [00:39] Da: But, my installed KDE (openSUSE 10.0 w/KDE 4.0.x) works fine [00:40] er os 11.0 [00:40] anyone using kde 4.0 on kubuntu [00:40] smitty: I have kde4 on ubuntu install [00:40] puggg: With driver problems you have three kinds persistent intermittent and latent [00:41] DaSkreech: They are playing Animal Crossing at the moment. [00:41] I am switching from opensuse 11.0 with kde3 to kubutnu 8.10 [00:41] You seem to have hit an intermittent one :) [00:41] will I like it [00:41] TekkieFreak: Ha ha My friend >just< asked me if I knew someone with Animal crossing [00:41] animal crossing is awesome [00:42] smitty: Thats' an interesting question [00:42] smitty: kde4 has lots of eye candy...but it's not as configurable as 3.5 [00:42] ok thanks much [00:43] sorry was not direct on the question Tekkie you answered it perfect [00:43] that is what I meant to ask [00:43] Animal crossing is pretty fun...the kids love it. [00:43] my wife and mom love it too [00:44] So does she apparently she's trying to find a town to visit [00:44] DaSkreech: so if nvidia has known problems, should I use a different driver than the (recommended) NVidia driver? [00:44] it seems like k/ubuntu is drifting farther away from xorg.conf but it always autodects wrong values and i correct them in xorg.conf. is there a way to tell it during install or upgrade what my hrrefresh, vcync are [00:44] PsiKloPx: The latest one fixes a lot of the problems [00:44] Oh...we don't have ours online. [00:45] william__: Xorg is deprecating xorg.conf [00:45] how is kubuntu on driver support compared to opensuse [00:45] go speak to them [00:45] namely wifi drivers [00:45] I was too cheap to buy the microphone for it and the kids are too little to be chatting online. [00:46] Oh you can get the mic separate? [00:46] DaSkreech: Yep it's $29.99 here. [00:46] Wasn't aware of that [00:48] DaSkreech: Where are you again? [00:48] in the little box on your screen [00:48] Heh. :) [00:48] Must be warm in there anyway. [00:49] It is [00:49] 29 degrees [00:49] how can i make desktop sharing not ask for the password. i unchecked the box but it still asks me everytime :S [00:49] 29 Celsius? === ubuntu is now known as ubuntu__ === ubuntu__ is now known as Fabitoski [00:49] I'm still trying to get my taskbar to the top of my screen. kde hates me. [00:50] donde ubico ubuntu español? [00:50] Yes [00:50] !es [00:50] En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es. [00:50] !es [00:50] That is nice and warm. :) [00:50] TekkieFreak: KDE4 ? [00:50] Yep kde4 [00:51] TekkieFreak: Press the cashew on the panel and it will put a black box over the panel [00:51] Grab that black box and drag it to the top [00:52] Oh....that worked...Thanks!! [00:52] Welcome [00:54] hello people [00:56] !hi [00:56] Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu! [00:58] Is there anywhere to set the transparency stuff? [00:58] I do like all the pretty windows. :) [00:59] alt+F3 -> properties -> desktop effects [01:01] Alt F3 doesn't do it...that seems to change my desktop [01:01] is vmware free? [01:01] I think vmware player is free [01:01] player? i thing abut setting up XP on vmware [01:02] I thought I had found a slider that allows you to make windows more transparent when you drag them. [01:02] I can't find it now though. :) [01:03] TekkieFreak: re you sure you didn't press ctrl+F3 ? [01:04] Oh now I found it. :) Thanks DaSkreech [01:05] i need a help i have a compaq cq 60 whith kubuntu 8.10 but the wriless button does not work any body can help me? [01:06] That's what I'm talking about!!! Cool. :) [01:08] pedro: paste the output of lspci [01:09] !paste [01:09] pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic) [01:10] bbl [01:11] pedro: do you understand? [01:12] sup === Jabrroa_BBL is now known as Jabrroa [01:13] no can you explain i dont understand [01:14] open konsole type lspci then go to paste bin and post the output then come back here and give the url of your paste [01:17] comprende? [01:22] the first half i understand but i dont understand what have i got to do in the /bin [01:23] i m a beginner in this issues [01:25] pastebin is a website to post the large text in [01:25] !paste [01:25] pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic) [01:26] pedro: pastebin is a website [01:27] as i said [01:27] ok [01:30] why is the network manager not showing all my devices? just eth0 in there :\ [01:31] all fine in ifconfig / iwconfig [01:33] !sr [01:33] Sorry, I don't know anything about sr [01:33] http://paste.lisp.org/display/70943. [01:36] !yu [01:36] Sorry, I don't know anything about yu [01:36] D: [01:37] I have a weird problem! A user typed 'something' in a 8.04 installation and since then he can't really use the keyboard any more. When he tries to type a char ... [01:37] he has to keep the key pressed for a while and then this key gets typed twice! [01:37] how can i just edit the first X bytes of a file, or the first X lines? without loading the rest into memory [01:38] any help is much appreciated. Thanks [01:38] ott0: sed [01:39] kpath: "since then" how long has this been going on? [01:39] pedro: look here for some info https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/278190 [01:40] it goes like this forever! [01:40] okay, but is there an easier way, like tell vim to only load a certain amount or something? i'd rather have interactive editing since i need to edit a shell script, but undernead the script there's 500mb of machine code (i think) and it's crashing the editors i try to open with [01:40] kpath: upon reboot etc? [01:40] yes indeed [01:40] reboot doesn't cahnge anything [01:41] in the meantime I created another user in the system and this one doesn't have that problem! [01:41] when were they typing this thing in? [01:41] so must be something in the profile of that particular user! [01:41] in any place! [01:41] <|TJ|> i wornder why my computer wont keep the time. [01:41] as long as you try to use the keyboard [01:41] ok im going take a look in that url tanks for yor help [01:42] * mister-tea feels comfort when people type as poorly as him [01:43] I looked in the System settings for the keyboard but everything there were set to default! [01:44] wait, can sed do interactive editing? [01:44] the user told me that before this behavior a message appeared in the screen and she cleicked on 'OK'! [01:44] but can't remember what the message was about! [01:45] how can i make desktop sharing not ask for the password. i unchecked the box but it still asks me everytime :S [01:47] kpath: You said they typed in something then this happened. What were they typing and when? [01:47] ott0: no [01:48] kpath: What were they doing? [01:48] DaSkreech: that's my problem! :( I don't have more info on that! The user couldn't help me any further! :( [01:49] DaSkreech: everything took place after the user said 'yes' to a pop-up screen! [01:49] DaSkreech: but couldn't give me any more details [01:50] DaSkreech: I was wondering which part of the system could turn the keyboard to react in this strange way? [01:50] <|TJ|> i installed kbfx how do i remove the kmenu button [01:51] DaSkreech: even if I try to use the virtual keyboard, it doesn't work! I clicl on the keys and they don't get displayed! [01:52] DaSkreech: so must be something general with the functional part of the keyboard [01:52] kpath: That's pretty serious [01:52] DaSkreech: like I choose to almost block it! [01:52] <|TJ|> i installed kbfx how do i remove the kmenu button [01:52] Did you try a different Keyboard? [01:52] <|TJ|> nevermind [01:53] <|TJ|> i got it [01:53] DaSkreech: no I didn't but the h/w should't be a problem! When I leave KDE and go to console mode everything works fine! [01:54] DaSkreech: the keyboard reacts. Also if I log-in as a different user in KDE everything works fine as well [01:54] DaSkreech: so this users profile is somehow different in KDE! [01:55] DaSkreech: how can I find that in the system? [01:55] delete the user and recreate him [01:56] ? [01:57] mister-tea: was your reply for my case? [01:57] it was an idea [01:58] mister-tea: well I try to avoid that cause I have to re-create all its settings! [01:58] k [01:58] mister-tea: also file permissions etc. etc. [02:02] have you checked in keyboard preferences? [02:03] mister-tea: you mean from the System Settings? [02:03] yeah [02:03] mister-tea: yes I did and everything is on default [02:04] I'm just trying to think of what could cause this [02:04] maybe it was satan [02:04] mister-tea: that's what I try to find out too! :( [02:05] mister-tea: but must be a setting like this somewhere! [02:05] I was thinking that one of those accesability settings got screwed up [02:06] mister-tea: in which place? [02:06] in the settings there is a place to set for sticky keys and such for the hanicapped [02:06] c ya ppl l8r, off to reinstall kubuntu :D [02:07] mister-tea: you mean in the Accessibilty tab? I can see that there are some settings there for the keyboard! I'll have a look [02:07] I did the latest update. [02:08] And now when i start kubuntu the kdm does not really start [02:08] i have to do sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart [02:10] emma: do you have two kdms ? [02:10] kdm and kdm-kde4 ? [02:10] No I don't think so. [02:11] I have just kubuntu 8.10 [02:11] do you have any error messages in dmesg [02:11] hello all, I am running Intrepid on my T42 laptop. When I first bootup, I can press the volume keys and get the OSD to see the volume level and muting affects the kmix icon [02:11] its great until I standby and come back [02:11] does anybody know what I have to restart to get that to work again [02:12] mister-tea: BINGO! It was this Accessibility thing. In the 'Keyboard Filters', 'Slow Keys' was enabled! [02:12] how to tell network manager to use another device?? [02:12] mister-tea: THANKS A LOT for your help! [02:12] Skyfury: you mean connect to a different AP? [02:13] cool kpath glad to help[ [02:13] dhuv: no my nm just want to handle my eth0 - i have wlan0 too but its not appering in nm [02:15] Skyfury: when you do "ifconfig -a" do you see anything besides eth0 and lo? [02:15] dhuv: the card is working finem yeh [02:15] Skyfury: do you have this problem when you login as a different use on the system? [02:16] dhuv: equal which user i am, the nm just shows me the eth0 [02:16] wondering if it is something screwed up with your .kde profile [02:16] kpath: I think if your press the shift key 5 times that happens [02:16] dhuv: also if i check iwlist wlan0 scanning - my ap appears x_X [02:17] Skyfury: are you running Intrepid? [02:17] dhuv: yes i am [02:17] I have seen some bugs on launchpad regarding knetworkmanager and wireless [02:18] someone people have had luck reinstalling that package [02:18] dhuv: i tried near everything - for me nm dont want to use another device instead of eth0 [02:19] Skyfury: perhaps you can try starting it from the command line in a terminal so you can see the startup messages [02:19] dhuv: already done, everything seems to be fine [02:20] wow, that is weird [02:20] dhuv: yeah, my head is smoking :\ [02:21] Skyfury: I have to ask, have you done an "ifconfig wlan0 up" and restarted knetworkmanager? [02:21] dhuv: i can even add a wireless network in the nm O.o [02:22] but how can you even see them if the interface is not recognized [02:23] dhuv: its my first time for this nm, i can safely remove it with apt-get? [02:23] which one are you using? [02:23] dhuv: wadda you mean which one? [02:23] I have network-manager-kde & network-manager packages installed [02:24] which packages do you have installed [02:24] dhuv: yeah its a clean install [02:24] dhuv: just installed intrepid kubuntu on my pc yesterday [02:25] it should be safe to remove them and reinstall them, the network managers only help you connect to the inet. they are not required. If you know which commands to issue manually, then you do not need those packages [02:25] If you installed ubuntu first(gnome) then kde-desktop you'll have two running when you start kde and or gnome, the resolution is to add OnlyShowIn=GNOME;XFCE; to /etc/xdg/autostart/nm-applet.desktop [02:25] make sure you know how to issue the commands manually, or you will not be able to connect to the inet :) [02:26] dhuv: sure i know, but i wanted to use this package :\ [02:26] and a similar line to knetworkmanager-autostart.desktop or whatever network manager you may have installed for kde [02:26] another thing you may want to do is a --reinstall for those packages first, this way they are in apt's cache [02:26] OxDeadC0de: im sure i dont have gnome on my pc :) [02:26] so when you go do an install, it does not need to be downloaded [02:26] skyfury: lucky :P [02:26] Skyfury: it should work, I has worked for me for since Gutsy [02:26] Fiesty actually [02:27] mmh [02:27] skyfury apparently also network manager has a problem with static ip's for the moment, it may have been resolved i have no idea since i use dhcp [02:27] can you gimme the complete command please? [02:27] Skyfury: complete command ot remove and then install? [02:27] OxDeadC0de: yeah i have read that. thats not a problem - router with dhcp [02:27] dhuv: yes would be nice [02:28] skyfury I'm a little drunk but I'll try to help you too along with dhuv, so I'll scoll back and see exactly what your problem is, sry if I get a bit annoying :P [02:28] OxDeadC0de: lol dude every help is welcome! im getting confused on this :( [02:28] * mister-tea cheers to OxDeadC0de [02:29] * DaSkreech wonders how much drunk help Skyfury has ever gotten [02:29] * OxDeadC0de cheers mister-tea! [02:29] Skyfury: "sudo apt-get install --reinstall network-manager network-manager-kde" [02:29] try that first [02:30] dhuv: thanks im doing that [02:32] * Skyfury rebooting [02:37] dhuv: okay now my wlan0 is not up after booting !? [02:38] Skyfury: so when you do "ifconfig -a" it does not show up at all? [02:38] I have just upgraded to Frostwire 4.17.1 and I get an issue when starting Frostwire... http://paste.ubuntu.com/76215/ [02:39] dhuv: there is also wlan0 [02:39] Skyfury: so it is there [02:39] dhuv: but if i try iwlist wlan0 scanning - this service is temp... seems that the device isnt up yet [02:39] can you see if you see wlan0 by doing "ifconfig -a" [02:40] dhuv: yes i can [02:40] Skyfury: good, so it is still detected, do you see it in the network manager? [02:41] dhuv: under NM -> new connection -> only the0 in there [02:41] *eth0 [02:43] Skyfury: real quick, can you do a "cat /etc/network/interfaces" and see if you see wlan0 there? [02:44] i edited this file earlier - i was only with lo at the beginning - i added my wlan0 in there and commented every line out with a # [02:45] no, do not have wlan0 in there http://osdir.com/ml/linux.network.networkmanager.devel/2006-06/msg00142.html [02:45] remove it [02:45] dhuv: okayi remeove everthing again just a sec [02:46] I gotta run, I am sorry I cannot finish up, will be back later [02:46] nothing in this file, no eth0 nor wlan0 [02:50] what happens if i click on this .exe and run it in terminal? [02:50] here lets break something [02:52] !terminal [02:52] The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE). Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal [02:54] !retards [02:54] Sorry, I don't know anything about retards [02:55] !coc [02:55] The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/ [02:55] !help | Jabrroa [02:55] Jabrroa: Hi! I'm #kubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://tinyurl.com/5zfb6t - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots [02:56] Jabrroa, /msg ubottu for fun if you wish [02:59] i was just bored :) [03:00] take it to #kubuntu-offtopic then [03:00] hello [03:01] using kde, it's nice and polished but quite slow even on a powerfull lappy, how do you speed it up ? :) [03:05] is there a way to bring back the main taskbar === jtechidna is now known as JontheEchidna === hunter_ is now known as strixv [03:18] Hi. I have a P4 machine with hyper threading. The generic Kernel works fine with SMP. But it seens thar the rt kernel doesn't have smp enabled. [03:18] hola [03:18] alguien puede alludarme [03:18] I mean the package linux-image-2.6.27-3-rt of intrepid [03:18] ? [03:19] ola [03:19] hola [03:19] hola [03:19] puedes alludarme kon una pregunta? [03:19] !en [03:19] The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat [03:20] Leandro did you look for a package that include rt and smp. Not all kernels support smp something esp. something like an rt kernel [03:20] Does anyone know why the rt kernel doesn't have smp enabled? [03:20] tengo una pc de escritorio y una laptop conectadas en red las 2 con la misma version de ubuntu pero quiero pasar archivos de la lap a la de pc como lo ago? [03:20] se puede? [03:21] !es [03:21] En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es. [03:21] !es | nacho__ [03:21] nacho__: please see above [03:21] Yeah, sorry hola is about it for me. Dora doesn't teach *that* much Spainish. [03:21] tanks [03:21] RobertLaptop: I find just one rt kernel on the mirrors [03:21] kubuntu 8.10 = fail [03:21] on hardy it worked whit smp [03:22] yousef, I have pretty good luck...but I always install Ubuntu and then add kde. [03:23] Leandro have you check the bug tracker for open issues with that kernal? [03:23] well then kde4.2 = fail also [03:23] *kde4.1 [03:23] hi all [03:23] can i find any body here?? [03:23] There's a guy working on porting kde3 over. [03:23] RobertLaptop: No, I haven't [03:23] I'm not having much trouble with 4.1 though...it's working ok for me. [03:23] i'm using kde 4,1 [03:24] allllllllll [03:24] alooooooooooooooo [03:24] any one here [03:24] ??????? [03:24] 1ask [03:24] mahdialsholi, just ask [03:24] !ask [03:24] Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) [03:26] Leandro check the bugtracker. Something like that might already be there. If the only change you have made is your kernel and smp stoped working it is possible that something was broken with that release. [03:26] RobertLaptop> But I googled and didn't find anything, so I thought may be I was missing something [03:27] اي واجد عربي [03:27] عرب يا اخوان [03:27] هرب [03:27] عارب [03:27] i upgraded my desktop to 8.10 right away it couldnt boot because of the kernel version [03:27] عرب [03:27] ابي عرب [03:27] عرب [03:27] mahdialsholi, stop [03:27] thats when u know 8.10 fails [03:27] كيفك يوسف [03:27] شو اخبارك؟؟ [03:27] You upgraded your desktop? to kde4? [03:27] lol hes speaking to me in arabic [03:28] yeah [03:28] my desktop pc [03:28] my laptop im using now has 8.04 with kde3.5 [03:28] Did you try the gnome desktop? Does that work better? [03:29] no i didnt try [03:29] leadro if smp is complied in the kernel it generally just works. There are a few kernel options that will tweak smp but there is generally more about making smp more responsive not turning it on. [03:30] yousef....you should download the 8.10 Ubuntu liveCD and see how that works. [03:30] yeah, I've compiled some kernels whit smp and rt. I think the package maintainer forgot to compile whit smp support [03:31] hi all [03:31] i waana see cannel list??? [03:31] i waana see cannel list??? [03:31] i waana see cannel list??? [03:31] i waana see cannel list??? [03:31] i waana see cannel list??? [03:31] i waana see cannel list??? [03:31] i waana see cannel list??? [03:32] i waana see cannel list??? [03:32] i waana see cannel list??? [03:32] i waana see cannel list??? [03:32] i waana see cannel list??? [03:32] i waana see cannel list??? [03:32] i waana see cannel list??? [03:32] i waana see cannel list??? [03:32] mahdialsholi_, stop [03:32] ok [03:32] :) [03:32] !irc [03:32] A list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines [03:32] check that last link [03:33] <|TJ|> what can i use to play streaming audio [03:33] <|TJ|> !streaming [03:33] Sorry, I don't know anything about streaming [03:33] <|TJ|> !stream [03:33] Sorry, I don't know anything about stream [03:33] <|TJ|> !audio [03:33] If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3 [03:33] <|TJ|> !players [03:33] Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Listen, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, Exaile, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based). Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine - See also !codecs [03:34] |TJ|, what have you tried. [03:34] and why are you crossposting [03:34] <|TJ|> amaork [03:34] !crosspost [03:34] Please don't ask the same question in multiple Ubuntu channels at the same time. Many helpers are in more than one channel and it's not fair to them or the other people seeking support. [03:34] Tekkie, I got it to work with an older Kernel version [03:35] it's just the feel of the kde4.1 that sucks [03:35] and some bugs [03:35] the way everything is organized is just to dumb, and those widgets and plasmoids [03:35] <|TJ|> bazhang: i tried amaork [03:35] feels like a mix of vista and mac crap [03:36] i find it good, except its damn slow [03:36] I found on bug tracker that there is really a more seriours problem with the rt kernel. [03:36] Thanks for your help [03:37] In case you want to read, if somebody else asks, the bug number is #290498 [03:37] I rather like it, but then I switched from a mac. [03:38] I will need a smp kernel. Does anybody know if I will have too much problems using the hardy rt kernel? [03:38] I will need a smp and rt kernel [03:39] #ubuntu-devel [03:41]