Hobbsee | bug 300257 | 01:00 |
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ubottu | Launchpad bug 300257 in rss-glx "armel build failure (package not yet in the archive)" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/300257 | 01:00 |
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dwg | I'm told this is the place I should mention this | 03:13 |
dwg | I found and fixed a bug in libopal - packaged fix in my ppa | 03:14 |
dwg | but the bug report (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/opal/+bug/297123) has had no response at all | 03:14 |
ubottu | Error: Could not parse data returned by Ubuntu: HTTP Error 503: Service Temporarily Unavailable (https://launchpad.net/bugs/297123/+text) | 03:14 |
RAOF | dwg: Is your debdiff attached to that bug? | 03:18 |
dwg | RAOF: uh.. not as such | 03:20 |
dwg | RAOF: just a pointer to the PPA, and a link to where the same bug has been fixed upstream | 03:20 |
RAOF | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Recipes/Debdiff?action=show&redirect=MOTU%2FRecipes%2FDebdiff might be useful to you then. | 03:23 |
dwg | RAOF: alrighty, I'll make one of those and attach once launchpad is up again | 03:28 |
RAOF | dwg: If you've pulled the patch from upstream then it's likely there'll be a fixed package in Jaunty anyway, since we'll likely have a new release in there. It's probably worth checking that, too. | 03:29 |
dwg | RAOF: well, quite possibly | 03:29 |
dwg | RAOF: it's a one-liner, though, so just folding in the patch seemed as easy | 03:30 |
dwg | RAOF: I came up with the fix independently while debugging; the upstream link came after when I went to check if upstream needed fixing as well | 03:32 |
RAOF | I suspect I'd need to actually see the bug to be more help at this point. | 03:35 |
greg-g | and getting the fixed package into Debian is also a good way to get it in Ubuntu "automatically" | 03:36 |
dwg | greg-g: hrm.. this is a "main" package, not "universe" | 03:41 |
greg-g | dwg: generally the same thing applies to main, I think. (I am not a core-dev or motu, so I could be wrong) | 03:43 |
dwg | greg-g: well, not doubt it helps, but this is a reasonably serious bug, ubuntu ought to be able to fix it without having to wait for someone else to do it first | 03:43 |
dwg | (I don't actually know if the bug is fixed in Debian yet) | 03:44 |
greg-g | dwg: well yes, for a serious bug it is good to get the patch in UBuntu quickly, but it is also good to then get it in Debian so we don't have to maintain a diff (I obviously haven't looked at your bug report, just stating generalized good practices) | 03:45 |
greg-g | anyways, it seems you know what you're doing, so, carry on :) | 03:46 |
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dholbach | good morning | 06:34 |
maco | dholbach: morning | 06:52 |
dholbach | hi mac | 06:52 |
dholbach | maco | 06:52 |
maco | dholbach: re bug 278418 icon-naming-utils? so apparently there are *many* ways to go after that one then | 07:28 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 278418 in human-icon-theme "human-icon-theme no longer replaces System->Administration icon" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/278418 | 07:28 |
dholbach | maco: icon-naming-utils includes a mapping of file names and {gnome,tango,tangerine,human,...}-icon-theme make use of it to generate myriads of symlinks | 07:34 |
dholbach | maco: it might make sense to forward the change to upstream and include it in Ubuntu and rebuild the icon themes with it | 07:35 |
maco | ah ok | 07:45 |
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Hew | Hey guys. pidgin-musictracker has been renamed from just musictracker in Debian, which has now been synced to Jaunty. However, it now FTBFS. Two questions: Should I report the FTBFS as a bug against pidgin-musictracker? and what happens with the bugs listed under musictracker, do they need to be moved? Thanks. | 09:46 |
Hobbsee | Hew: the source package is the same, isn't it? | 10:18 |
* Hobbsee is also somewhat unconvinced that the package has been renamed, so far | 10:19 | |
Hobbsee | ah. so it is. | 10:19 |
dwg | RAOF_: I've now attached a debdiff for the bug I mentioned earlier today | 10:21 |
Hobbsee | Hew: move bugs: yes. report FTBFS: no, we have other ways to track it. if you were reporting it, it would be against p-m | 10:21 |
Hobbsee | oh, and the one i just filed shouldn't be moved ;) | 10:27 |
Hew | Hobbsee: Thanks, I'll deal with those other bugs then :-) | 10:58 |
Hobbsee | Hew: you're welcome :) | 11:01 |
Hobbsee | !ping | 11:50 |
ubottu | ping yourself ;-) really the diodes all down my left side are sore | 11:50 |
BUGabundo_work | can some one give me a pointer on this | 11:50 |
BUGabundo_work | https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/296738 | 11:50 |
ubottu | Ubuntu bug 296738 in alsa-driver "[Jaunty] Sound no longer works after updates" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 11:50 |
maco | Hobbsee: hazzing fun? | 11:50 |
Hobbsee | maco: indeed - studying. Noticed this was very quiet though, and wondered what was happening | 11:50 |
BUGabundo_work | is there anything I can do to manually make alsamixer remember its volume? | 11:51 |
maco | BUGabundo_work: yeah, it should Affects: linux | 11:51 |
BUGabundo_work | really? | 11:51 |
maco | alsa-driver is only if you manually compile the alsa-source | 11:51 |
BUGabundo_work | kernel? why? | 11:51 |
BUGabundo_work | it was triaged | 11:51 |
maco | obviously not by crimsun or me | 11:52 |
BUGabundo_work | yeah | 11:52 |
BUGabundo_work | just saw the activity log | 11:52 |
BUGabundo_work | just a plain (forum) user | 11:52 |
BUGabundo_work | can you triage it now? | 11:52 |
BUGabundo_work | it sucks to have to increase 2 or 3 levers everytime I rebbot | 11:53 |
maco | BUGabundo_work: crimsun had me change this page to reflect that most should be linux by default https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems | 11:53 |
maco | i can try | 11:54 |
maco | i dont have his expertness though :P | 11:54 |
maco | BUGabundo_work: what device options do you have under Default Mixer Tracks? | 11:56 |
afflux | I'm having issues understanding bug 301597. python3.0 depends on python3.0-minimal = 3.0~rc3-0ubuntu3. Why is python3.0 processed before python3.0-minimal then? | 11:58 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 301597 in python3.0 "package python3.0 3.0~rc1+20081027-0ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: Versuche, ?/usr/lib/python3.0/lib-dynload/_pickle.so? zu ?berschreiben, welches auch in Paket python3.0-minimal ist" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/301597 | 11:58 |
maco | afflux: the order they are processed is non-deterministic. if one *needs* to be processed first, use pre-depends in the package's dependency list | 11:58 |
afflux | alright. Should I add a debdiff for a pre-depends then? | 11:59 |
maco | so python3.0 pre-depends on python3.0-minimal | 11:59 |
maco | i think so | 11:59 |
afflux | will do | 11:59 |
afflux | thanks | 11:59 |
BUGabundo_work | back maco... sorry | 12:26 |
BUGabundo_work | let me check the device | 12:26 |
BUGabundo_work | HAD Intel Alsa Mixer is the one selected | 12:26 |
BUGabundo_work | maco one thing I noticed is that ever since I upgrade to jaunty | 12:28 |
BUGabundo_work | console alsamixer will only show me PA and not alsa controls | 12:29 |
BUGabundo_work | is this the expected behaviour? | 12:29 |
maco | BUGabundo_work: im not on jaunty, but are you running "alsamixer" or "alsamixer -c0"? | 12:29 |
BUGabundo_work | ahhh -c0 show more stuff | 12:30 |
BUGabundo_work | why is that? | 12:30 |
maco | BUGabundo_work: since the pc speaker is now separated out, you have to specify which card you're talking about | 12:30 |
BUGabundo_work | the cat of proc/asound/cards show me just one | 12:31 |
BUGabundo_work | the zero one | 12:31 |
BUGabundo_work | but why does plain "alsamixer" just show PA? | 12:31 |
maco | i dont know the reasoning, but i assume so that it has something to show at all | 12:32 |
BUGabundo_work | ok | 12:33 |
maco | i just know you have to do -c0 | 12:33 |
maco | crimsun drilled it in :P | 12:33 |
BUGabundo_work | due you know the origin of sound clipping on PA? | 12:33 |
BUGabundo_work | vlc, gnome-sound-recorder | 12:34 |
maco | you mean where large files don't play all the way? | 12:34 |
BUGabundo_work | all leave serious gaps between every 2 secs of playback/recording | 12:34 |
BUGabundo_work | no need for large files | 12:34 |
BUGabundo_work | I recorded 5 sec of mic audio and it sucks... | 12:34 |
maco | no, i don't. id guess something to do with buffering... | 12:34 |
maco | but as for that bug you mentioned before | 12:35 |
BUGabundo_work | had to use audacity to work | 12:35 |
maco | your issue is that your sound all went *poof*, right? | 12:35 |
BUGabundo_work | but then audacity doesn't playback | 12:35 |
BUGabundo_work | lol | 12:35 |
BUGabundo_work | gets muted, yes | 12:35 |
BUGabundo_work | on every boot | 12:35 |
BUGabundo_work | if I hibernate (most) of the times its okay | 12:35 |
maco | oh...are you sure you have the same bug as the reporter? | 12:36 |
BUGabundo_work | okay | 12:36 |
BUGabundo_work | lets start from the begginnig | 12:36 |
BUGabundo_work | is this it https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/296738? | 12:36 |
ubottu | Ubuntu bug 296738 in alsa-driver "[Jaunty] Sound no longer works after updates" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 12:36 |
maco | oh, ok read further | 12:36 |
maco | the summary at the top isnt descriptive | 12:36 |
BUGabundo_work | humm | 12:37 |
BUGabundo_work | maybe I should have opened a new bug .... | 12:37 |
BUGabundo_work | that bug is getting too confused | 12:37 |
BUGabundo_work | mine is very simple | 12:37 |
BUGabundo_work | sound muted after reboot! | 12:37 |
maco | reading the part where Kevin talks *other* than the top part, you make sense there | 12:38 |
BUGabundo_work | yeah | 12:38 |
BUGabundo_work | that's why I subsc to that bug | 12:38 |
maco | the part that is in desperate need of linebreaks didn't make sense ;) | 12:38 |
BUGabundo_work | eheh | 12:38 |
BUGabundo_work | edit the desc as you see fit | 12:38 |
BUGabundo_work | maco: I'll have to go have lunch or won't be back on time for work | 12:39 |
BUGabundo_work | see you in 50 min! | 12:39 |
BUGabundo_work | we'll discuss other sound bugs latter, okay? | 12:39 |
maco | BUGabundo_work: im going to bed soon. ill talk to you about this in the eastern us afternoon, k? | 12:39 |
BUGabundo_work | I'm here until 5pm GMT | 12:40 |
maco | ok | 12:42 |
maco | BUGabundo_work: i commented on the bug | 12:45 |
BUGabundo_work | I'll take a look maco | 13:20 |
BUGabundo_work | maco I added the debug info and a comment | 13:37 |
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afflux | james_w: hi, just read your mail for the python3.0-predepends-issue | 14:40 |
afflux | james_w: is this an issue for -devel or for -motu? I'm not quite sure of the difference between these two lists ;) | 14:43 |
james_w | I would say -devel for this one | 14:45 |
james_w | while the package is in universe it will be in main sometime soon | 14:45 |
james_w | and this issue feels more like a -devel one anyway | 14:45 |
afflux | okay | 14:45 |
james_w | thanks afflux | 14:47 |
afflux | thank you | 14:47 |
bddebian | Boo | 15:23 |
BUGabundo_work | autch | 15:30 |
BUGabundo_work | ei bddebian don't give us scares like that! | 15:30 |
bddebian | :) | 15:32 |
BUGabundo_work | afinal kal era o pro aris? | 16:17 |
samuraipenguin | Hi guys. question on bug 109289, which diff is being asked for? | 16:34 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 109289 in naim "Naim returns erroneous error messages" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/109289 | 16:34 |
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chrisccoulson | james_w - do you have a few minutes to talk about system-tools-backends? | 20:49 |
james_w | chrisccoulson: for you, anything :-) | 20:49 |
chrisccoulson | thanks ;) i've tried to catch seb128 on here too but i'm always on here too late i think | 20:50 |
chrisccoulson | i tried running it without an init script for a little while to see if it is something that could be considered for jaunty | 20:50 |
chrisccoulson | i tried constantly rebooting and then firing up one of the gnome-system-tools apps to see how reliable it was | 20:51 |
chrisccoulson | and i did get an error once unfortunately, although i can't repeat it now | 20:51 |
chrisccoulson | but the upgrade bug is actually fixed in jaunty by some other means, assuming the theory about it being started by the system bus is correct | 20:52 |
chrisccoulson | i thin you know which bug i'm talking about (sorry, i can't remember the bug number now) | 20:52 |
james_w | yeah, I remember | 20:53 |
chrisccoulson | bug 294389 is the one | 20:53 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 294389 in system-tools-backends "package system-tools-backends 2.6.0-1ubuntu1.1 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/294389 | 20:53 |
james_w | if it's fixed, that's a good start | 20:53 |
james_w | and so we might as well keep the init script I guess, especially if you think it may cause a bug | 20:54 |
chrisccoulson | yeah, i've proposed a patch for intrepid SRU. i just wanted to make sure you're aware that dropping the init script might not be a good idea straight away | 20:54 |
james_w | cool, thanks | 20:55 |
james_w | good to know | 20:55 |
chrisccoulson | although, i still think that shipping an init script and a DBUS service should be unnecessary. i don't think both are needed, and if gnome-system-tools fails when the backend doesn't exist, even when it gets started by DBUS, then that's probably a bug in g-s-t | 20:56 |
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chrisccoulson | just looking at bug 301811 | 21:07 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 301811 in gnome-power-manager "Preferences/Power Management dialog wider than 1024 pixels with hungarian locale" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/301811 | 21:07 |
chrisccoulson | very odd. i'm failry sure it's not actually a gnome-power-manager bug | 21:07 |
chrisccoulson | does anyone have any idea what might cause a locale-specific bug like that? | 21:07 |
james_w | chrisccoulson: isn't that from just having mammoth labels for those sliders? | 21:14 |
chrisccoulson | i've just tried it on my machine actually. there are 2 issues. issue 1 is the length of the labels. issue 2 is the length of the sliders also doubles with hungarian locale | 21:14 |
chrisccoulson | issue 2 might actually be a g-p-m bug, but i'm not sure | 21:15 |
james_w | ah, they double? odd | 21:19 |
chrisccoulson | it is a little odd. i think someone reported a similar locale specific issue against firefox a little while ago (all the input dialogs were really long with one locale), but i'm sure that bug was triaged against firefox itself | 21:23 |
BUGabundo | I'm at #pidgin trying to debug a memory leak | 23:23 |
BUGabundo | anybody here using pidgin (preferebly on 64bits) can check its memory usage on ubuntu? | 23:23 |
BUGabundo | VM and Resident Memory | 23:23 |
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